Talk:Poland

The link from Fox News about abortion is biased. It suggest that younger people were present on pro-death demonstration and older attended pro-life one. freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1808778/posts?page=10#10

Your very correct. Its sad when AP tries to skew facts like that. Bohdan 03:14, 2 August 2007 (EDT)

Polish election interference

Given the current situation, what are the chances that Polish intelligence tries to interfere in the 2022 midterms and the 2024 presidential election?--Geopolitician (talk) 21:07, September 27, 2022 (EDT)

Interesting question; while Ukrainian intelligence has interfered in US elections in the past, and there is a merging of Polish-Ukrainian civil services ongoing, the reports I've seen are of Polish operatives on the front line in Ukraine and in NATO power centers and decision making offices. I got nothing on its US domestic activities, but will BOLO. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 23:44, September 27, 2022 (EDT)

With all the talk about how conservative Poland's government is, I suppose that if I were to make the claim to an average conservative that Poland would prefer Democrats over Republicans, I would be laughed at and called a troll. But it's almost certainly true. The current Polish government has proven time and time again that Russophobia is a major part of its ideology, so it would naturally harbor suspicions toward any political movement that's not openly Russophobic. So I'll go even further and assert that Poland not only prefers Democrats now, but it also preferred Democrats in 2020 and 2016. Yes, I am saying that Poland wanted Biden over Trump even after all Trump did for it. It's the same ungratefulness that Israel showed.--Geopolitician (talk) 09:44, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

If Trump is President in 2025, he should be much harsher on Poland, Israel, and other countries who fall in this category the second time around. Cancel Fort Trump, move the embassy back to Tel-Aviv, that kind of stuff.--Geopolitician (talk) 09:48, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

With the accession of Poland to NATO, much more than that happened; Polish Russophobes (who Lavrov calls "extremists") also ascended to high level and influential bureaucratic positions in the Atlantic Council and the NATO bureaucracy itself, giving it fresh blood and a new reason for existence. NATO is no longer fully controlled by the Angelo-American alliance, but brought in extreme Russophobes from former Warsaw Pact countries, Poland, the Baltics, and Romania into its planning and decision-making process. They have more power and influence than France or Germany had. That is where NATO ceased to be a defensive alliance and went over to offense. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 13:22, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

The Russophobic elements, which Soviet culture (note: Soviet, not "Russian") ruthlessly suppressed (without physically exterminating), are now in control of the Ukrainian and Polish military, intelligence, and security services. And they want revenge (not against the Soviet system, but are racially motivated against Russian culture and the Russian people. The leftwing communism of the Soviet Union beat "nationalistic tendencies" "out of "Soviet peoples"; resistors of the Soviet system in former Soviet Republics are not so much "free market democrats" as they are Russophobic fascists). RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 13:34, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

<aside> What do I mean by "nationalistic tendencies"? Look no farther than Ramzan Kadyrov and the Chechen Republic. Even if they are Muslim and have their own language, they identify as "Russian". To be "Russian" is a lot like being "American", made up of a multitude of national groups, but with a common official language. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 13:49, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

Dangerous bigots, like Gen. Keene on Fox News, need to be ignored. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 13:56, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

Declassified by the Russian Federation after the dissolution of the USSR

Machine translation with minor edits (I changed "voices" to "concerns", but probably should have left it at "voices").

№ 63 memorandum of the conversation I. V. Stalin with F. Roosevelt 1 December 1943 15 hours. 20 min. Roosevelt. In the United States a question about the start of Baltic republics in the Soviet Union can be raised, and I assume that the world public opinion will consider it desirable so that sometimes in the future in a some manner expressed the opinion of the peoples of these republics on this question. Therefore I hope that Marshal Stalin will take into the attention this wish. I personally do not have any doubts about the fact that the peoples of these countries will vote for the connection to the Soviet Union so harmoniously, as they made in 1940. Stalin. Lithuania, Estonia and Latvia did not have an autonomy before the revolution in Russia. Tsar was then in the union with the United States and with England, and no one raised the question about the conclusion of these countries from the composition of Russia. Why this question is placed now? Roosevelt. The fact is that public opinion does not know history. I would want to have a talk with Marshal Stalin about the home situation in the United States. Next year in the United States elections will be in prospect. I do not desire to advance my candidacy, but if war is continued, then perhaps I will be since I am forced to make this decision. In America there are millions of citizens of Polish origin, and therefore, being a practical person, I would not want to lose their concerns. I am agreeable with Marshal Stalin to the fact that we must restore the Polish state, and personally I do not have objections to the borders of Poland being moved from the east to the West - up to Oder, but for political reasons I cannot participate at present in the resolution of this question. I consider Marshal Stalin's ideas, I hope that he will understand, why I cannot publicly participate in resolution of this question here, in Teheran, or even in the spring of next year. Stalin. After the explanation of Roosevelt this I understand. Roosevelt. In the United States there is also a certain quantity of Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians. I know that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia and in the past and very recently composed the part of the Soviet Union, and, when the Russian armies again enter into these republics, not to camp for war because of this with the Soviet Union. But public opinion can require conducting there a plebiscite. Stalin. As far as voleiz"yavleniya of the peoples of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia is concerned, we have numerous cases to give to the peoples of these republics the possibility to express its will. Roosevelt. This will be to me usefully. Stalin. This, of course, it does not mean that the plebiscite in these republics must pass under any form of international control. Roosevelt. Certainly, no. It would be useful to state at the appropriate moment, that the selections take place in their time in these republics.

In this conversation from the Teheran Conference, we see FDR telling Stalin not to worry if hears press reports about FDR advocating for a Free Poland with elections cause he's running for re-election in 1944 and needs Polish votes. So concerned was FDR about this, the Democrats held their convention in Chicago, a city with more Poles than Warsaw. But he's also knowingly and effectively selling Poles (and Balts) down the river into Soviet slavery. [1] Most Poles in the U.S. know about this, and now are getting their revenge for the Western betrayal. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 14:24, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

If Poland doesn't change its current course it could see itself being sold down the river into Russian slavery again, and this time they'd deserve it. And I'm saying this as a person of primarily Polish descent.--Geopolitician (talk) 14:30, September 28, 2022 (EDT)

That tweet you provided from the polish MEP (I forget his name) tells the whole story - they are not "free market democrats". When it comes to Nord Stream II, suddenly free market capitalism and trade between Germany and Russa becomes a threat to national security. RobS^{Ich bin ein breakfast taco} 14:48, September 28, 2022 (EDT)