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:Now remember Vladimir Posner's Columbia lecture about Putin? He explains very well how this '[[liberal world order]]' applies to the [[Ruski mir]]. For 45 years, during the Cold War, the US preached about 'liberal democracy'. In 1991 the Russian people were willing to try it. 15 years later, the US overthrew the Ukrainian people's democratically elected president. As ''The Who'' said, [https://youtu.be/SHhrZgojY1Q We won't be fooled again]. (Personally, I view the destruction of Ukrainian democracy to America's first racist black president, who considered them a bunch of white people so who really cares in the long run?) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z+]]</sup> 01:44, July 6, 2022 (EDT)
:As Andrei Martynov said, ''Whatsoever is valuable in Western Civilization and worth keeping as it drowns in sodomy, militarism, personal, political, and societal corruption, will survive in Russian Civilization.'' (Toynbee, Huntington, and other civilizational historians have pointed out that civilizations have a limited life span. Of the 30+ civilizations that appeared on planet Earth, only 6 have survived into the 21st century. Review Huntington's chapter on Ukraine in ''[[Clash of Civilizations]]''. The [[Donbas]] sits on what he describes as a "civilizational faultline".) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]<sup>[[User talk:RobSmith|Z+]]</sup> 01:59, July 6, 2022 (EDT)
