Talk:Nicholas J. Fuentes

Why is everything capitalized in this article? It looks cut n pasted from somewhere. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 20:19, 12 March 2021 (EST)

This article needs a re-write

Also, the bigot/troll/idiot Fuentes seems to increasingly be a Biden supporter. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 21:57, August 20, 2021 (EDT)

I disagree. I don't agree with everything Nick has to say nor do I consider myself a Groyper but the article was fine as it was. Nick can be a very immature troll at times and can say stupid stuff but the article should not be condemning him as an anti-Semitic bigot or calling him a Biden supporter at all. Fuentes is not in the same camp as David Duke and Richard Spencer and has condemned these kinds of people on numerous occasions. The only reason why he praised Biden's foreign policy was because of the Afghanistan withdrawal, which was started by Trump and needed to happen. Although Biden was disastrous in orchestrating the withdrawal, it can overall be viewed as a minor victory as it helped get us out of the Middle East. He's said a few things about Jews that he probably should not have said, but he overall seems more focused on putting America's interests over those of Israel, something Conservative Inc. does not want to talk about and do. Like it or not, Nick has helped the America First movement go mainstream and has even helped to fight establishment conservatives like Ben Shapiro. He's been targeted by the establishment so we shouldn't join them in smearing his character. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 01:15, October 15, 2021 (EDT)

Mr. Nationalist, did you see the Twitter thread I linked to in the article? —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 10:58, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

Yes, I did. A lot of that is just him being edgy. I don't exactly like it and it is inappropriate in some ways, but a lot of it is taken out of context by mainstream conservatives like Benny Johnson. He said in a Zoom call debate that he believed everyone was equal before God and should be equal before the law, so it is hard to call him bigoted when he believes that. Also he said he supports the efforts of Booker T. Washington to advance civil rights. Obviously I don't agree with what he said about Jim Crow and the slurs he used against homosexuals and women and some of what he said about Jews, but much of it is likely him being sarcastic, so you can't take what he said seriously. Johnson resorted to using the same tactics leftists used to attack conservatives, and he should just leave him alone. The conservative movement is lost if it is concerned in wasting its time condemning a troll. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 13:31, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

Exactly! That's what I'm saying! And LT, what's up with the warning you put over my reply? What did I say that was ad hominem or deflection? Was it my sarcasm or do are you just a staunch defender of Benny Johnson? Vince Did 7-14 (talk) 18:34, October 17, 2021 (EDT)

Huh, it's almost as if you're a sock of Mr. Nationalist... —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 18:43, October 17, 2021 (EDT)

So if he says something that that isn't bigoted, it's proof he isn't a bigot, but if it's excessively vile like the >dozen times he spouts racism, anti-Semitism, etc., one should just assume it's merely "edgy" or "sarcastic"? You aren't very good at hiding your intended schemes, Bongol- er, Mr. Nationalist. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 16:27, October 17, 2021 (EDT)

One should assume with Nick that he is being edgy when making these kind of jokes, yes. Perhaps he is being too edgy at times and cut back a little bit, but he is still just being edgy. That is just the way Zoomer humor is. Zoomers tend to be edgy whenever they make memes or attack the left because that is just the way they are. They want to be competant because they have studied the failures of conservatives over the past 60 years or so and at times attempt to bait woke leftists. Their tactics are about utilizing power the same way the left does when achieving their goals because at how effective liberals have been at doing so. It's something where you kind of have to be an America First, Zoomer conservative who keeps up with stuff in order to understand. -Mr. Nationalist (talk) 23:27, October 22, 2021 (EDT)

Yo LT, leave the article the way it is. Quit acting like Ben Shill-piro and smearing the guy. Vince Did 7-14 (talk) 10:52, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

The facts speak for themselves. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Saturday, 10:55, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

After reading that thread, I don't know if he's smart enough to be a commie infiltrator. He sounds more like just another victim of public schools. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 11:46, October 16, 2021 (EDT)

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(ec) Ok, so some kid learns in public school that he has a right to free speech. Then when he exercises it with some nonsense and gets smashed in the teeth by communists, how does that make him a spokesman or representative of conservatives? RobS^{Free Kyle!} 16:10, October 17, 2021 (EDT)

How is, for example, comparing the Holocaust to baking cookies merely an "edgy, provocative sense of humor"? Sounds like you're either a subversive infiltrator or an actual shill for bigotry. Either way, it's certainly not in good faith. —LT^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Sunday, 16:07, October 17, 2021 (EDT)

This article has some bold claims that are uncited. It appears to be a mess.

This article has some bold claims that are uncited. It appears to be a mess.

For example, there is no citation demonstrating the Robert Spencer is a Joe Biden operative. Conservative (talk) 01:15, November 7, 2021 (EDT)

I removed the Biden claim which was unsupported. Conservative (talk) 01:18, November 7, 2021 (EDT)