Conservapedia talk:Tolerance

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I have seen a real burst of anti-gay rhetoric here lately. I think the problem is this: fundamentalist Christians oppose homosexuality, and editors on this site read that as license to oppose homosexuals. A basic dictum of tolerance, and life in civil society, is that when you disagree with someone, and even when you disagree with someone as to a basic aspect of their personality, you do not make it personal, or reach for reasons to criticize them. You live & let live, even if you think they're wrong.

Gay rights activists, like me, don't want to mess with Christianity, or private Christian teachings, or private Christian beliefs. We just hope that homosexuals can be accepted into civil society as equals. That's all. The goal is not to teach that homosexuality is right, but rather that it deserves acceptance, and not to be sidelined & insulted at every turn. That's it. Can we agree on these ground rules?-AmesG_yo! 16:40, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

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I agree. Man, you're smart. Flippin 16:44, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Wasnt it you who put on RSchlafly's page the question "why do you hate gays"? sounds like you are disagreeing with someone, making it personal, and criticizing him with baseless accusations, does it not?Bohdan

Tolerance does not imply tolerance of intolerance.-AmesG_yo! 16:49, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Homophobia, fear simply breeds hate. What is so tricky about that? Flippin 16:49, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

I believe that Ames has put his finger on a couple of good points. However, we need to understand why many (most?) Christians feel that they cannot "accept" homosexuality. --Ed Poor 16:52, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Ed's got the main objection nailed. But "acceptance" of homosexuality isn't at issue. Gay rights activists don't want you to think that being gay is "good," just that it's not "bad" enough to merit civil condemnation.-AmesG_yo! 16:54, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Exactly, I've never quite understood how someone else's choice to live their life a certain way should offend you. As long as it doesn't directly impact you, what's it matter? Jrssr5 17:18, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Have you forgotten what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? By accepting homosexuals in society we are essentially saying that it is okay to be gay and that it is not wrong to be gay. And if something is not wrong then people will start assuming that it is good to be gay. This is the same reason why the US hasn't legalized pot because people will start accepting it as the norm in society and more people will start doing this bad behavior. --AdrianP 19:52, 30 April 2007 (EDT)

Need Help with Hateful Articles

I don't have the time to correct these all, but any enterprising editor willing to tackle the prejudiced statements in the current versions of homophobia, homosexuality, and reparative therapy would have my eternal gratitude.-AmesG_yo! 17:16, 30 April 2007 (EDT)