Campaigns for women's rights are not all to be identified with feminism, an ideology which blames men for all of the problems women have ever faced. I think we need to break up the Feminism article into two parts. --Ed Poor Talk 14:09, 21 January 2012 (EST)
- Campaigning for women's rights is feminism, an anti-men attitude is not even if it is sometimes mistakenly described as such. Adambro 15:29, 21 January 2012 (EST)
- Ed Poor is right here. Feminism refers to a radical, anti-men ideology, whereas women's rights refers to a much broader range of subjects, such as women's suffrage. NickP 16:49, 21 January 2012 (EST)
- OED says: Feminism is "Advocacy of the rights of women (based on the theory of equality of the sexes)". That some people want to go further than that and attack men doesn't mean campaigning for women's rights is no longer classed as feminism. An anti-men ideology would be more accurately described as misandry, female chauvinism, or as radical feminism, not simply feminism. Sadly some in the media are quite happy to confuse the situation by inappropriately branding the radical, anti-men ideology you describe as feminism. It isn't. Adambro 17:37, 21 January 2012 (EST)
- Read the feminism article: "By the 1970s, however, liberals had changed the meaning to represent people who favored abortion and identical roles or quotas for women in the military and in society as a whole. ". The Feminism described in your source is not the kind of feminism we are dealing with here. NickP 19:02, 22 January 2012 (EST)
- OED says: Feminism is "Advocacy of the rights of women (based on the theory of equality of the sexes)". That some people want to go further than that and attack men doesn't mean campaigning for women's rights is no longer classed as feminism. An anti-men ideology would be more accurately described as misandry, female chauvinism, or as radical feminism, not simply feminism. Sadly some in the media are quite happy to confuse the situation by inappropriately branding the radical, anti-men ideology you describe as feminism. It isn't. Adambro 17:37, 21 January 2012 (EST)
- Ed Poor is right here. Feminism refers to a radical, anti-men ideology, whereas women's rights refers to a much broader range of subjects, such as women's suffrage. NickP 16:49, 21 January 2012 (EST)