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You can read below, good examples I pulled from conservative websites, as to what makes a conservative.  If you can show, conclusively, that old Joe subscribed to conservative beliefs, as shown below, and epitomized by Ronald Reagan, I can accept what you say RJ. If not, I remind you that you are not canine, so you should let go of this particular bone. ;-) --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 01:17, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
 
You can read below, good examples I pulled from conservative websites, as to what makes a conservative.  If you can show, conclusively, that old Joe subscribed to conservative beliefs, as shown below, and epitomized by Ronald Reagan, I can accept what you say RJ. If not, I remind you that you are not canine, so you should let go of this particular bone. ;-) --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]<sub><small><small>/Admin</small></small></sub><sup>[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]</sup> 01:17, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
 
::TK's problem is his complete lack of historical sensibility.  His criteria for example lack any historical context--but for the record Kennedy agreed with every one of TK's listed points.  Lack of historical sensibility gives a very weak basis on which to edit historical articles. In Joe Kennedy's case, he was not in the 1950s liberal on any major issue--TK has not found one example--(meanwhile Reagan was a liberal in the 1950s).  So I suppose TK means Reagan-as-model at a somewhat later date--date unspecified. The advantage of historical perspective is that you can see change over time--and how the present has emerged from the past. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:31, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
 
::TK's problem is his complete lack of historical sensibility.  His criteria for example lack any historical context--but for the record Kennedy agreed with every one of TK's listed points.  Lack of historical sensibility gives a very weak basis on which to edit historical articles. In Joe Kennedy's case, he was not in the 1950s liberal on any major issue--TK has not found one example--(meanwhile Reagan was a liberal in the 1950s).  So I suppose TK means Reagan-as-model at a somewhat later date--date unspecified. The advantage of historical perspective is that you can see change over time--and how the present has emerged from the past. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:31, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
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:::We would need to hear Eleanor Roosevelt speak for herself for a claim like this,
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::::''Joe's conservatism was a major reason the liberal wing of the Democratic party --typified by [[Eleanor Roosevelt]] distrusted John Kennedy.''
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:::and Eleanor's chief biogrpaher (or any progeny thereof), [[Joe Lash]], is highly suspect.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:10, 29 August 2009 (EDT)
    
== What does being a "conservative" mean?  [http://www.popmodal.com/video/1482/What-Does-Conservatism-Mean-Reagan Look here.] and reflect upon the following: ==
 
== What does being a "conservative" mean?  [http://www.popmodal.com/video/1482/What-Does-Conservatism-Mean-Reagan Look here.] and reflect upon the following: ==
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