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==Message from QuantumDude==

==Message from QuantumDude==

They don't really seem to understand that just because something is on the frontiers of physics doesn't mean it's "implausible", and black holes' EXISTENCE is unquestioned at this point, they have been observed (indirectly), just haven't got the finer points down like the information paradox. It's frustrating. Also, your email appears broken.

They don't really seem to understand that just because something is on the frontiers of physics doesn't mean it's "implausible", and black holes' EXISTENCE is unquestioned at this point, they have been observed (indirectly), just haven't got the finer points down like the information paradox.  

It's frustrating. Also, your email appears broken. {{unsigned|QuantumDude}}

:Are you saying that email sent to sam4557@gmail.com fails?  I received mail at that account about 3 hours ago.

:Are you saying that email sent to sam4557@gmail.com fails?  I received mail at that account about 3 hours ago.

:Remember that "they" in your previous paragraph (presumably Andy and Cons) aren't the people you are addressing when you write about science and other things.  It's the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Two_millionth_page_view_for_the_.22Counterexamples_to_Relativity.22_page|two million people]] who read the stuff.

:Remember that "they" in your previous paragraph (presumably Andy and Cons) aren't the people you are addressing when you write about science and other things.  It's the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Two_millionth_page_view_for_the_.22Counterexamples_to_Relativity.22_page|two million  

people]] who read the stuff. {{unsigned|SamHB}}

::First, something being unquestioned (the consensus argument is not a scientific argument as true science is based on sound evidence/experiments and not merely voting) does not make something true.  

::First, something being unquestioned (the consensus argument is not a scientific argument as true science is based on sound evidence/experiments and not merely voting) does not make something true.  

::Second, from an astrophysicists' website from a [https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/16/do-black-holes-really-exist/ 2015 article]: "So the broad consensus is that black holes definitely exist. There are some astronomers who prefer to withhold judgment until we resolve the region around an event horizon."  [https://briankoberlein.com/about/ HERE] is a bio of the astrophysicist.  

::Second, from an astrophysicists' website from a [https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/16/do-black-holes-really-exist/ 2015 article]: "So the broad consensus is that black holes definitely exist. There are some astronomers who prefer to withhold judgment until we resolve the region around an event horizon."  [https://briankoberlein.com/about/ HERE] is a bio of the astrophysicist.  

::So much for your "unquestioned" claim! :)  I empirically showed your claim to be false. Put that in your frontiers of science pipe and smoke it! :)  

::So much for your "unquestioned" claim! :)  I empirically showed your claim to be false. Put that in your frontiers of science pipe and smoke it! :)

 

:::The last thing I had in my "frontiers of science pipe" was something I'd rather not talk about.  In any case, It's QuantumDude whose pipe you want him to smoke.  He and I have both been lax in signing.  We will try to do better.  And no, you didn't show his claim to be false.  Just saying that you have proven or refuted something doesn't mean that you actually did.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:01, 8 February 2016 (EST)

::Personally, I am not looked into in the finer points of black holes or black hole like objects. My background in astronomy is taking a college course on the subject (and receiving an above average grade) and a visit to a planetarium.  

::Personally, I am not looked into in the finer points of black holes or black hole like objects. My background in astronomy is taking a college course on the subject (and receiving an above average grade) and a visit to a planetarium.