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:Remember that "they" in your previous paragraph (presumably Andy and Cons) aren't the people you are addressing when you write about science and other things. It's the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Two_millionth_page_view_for_the_.22Counterexamples_to_Relativity.22_page|two million people]] who read the stuff.
:Remember that "they" in your previous paragraph (presumably Andy and Cons) aren't the people you are addressing when you write about science and other things. It's the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Two_millionth_page_view_for_the_.22Counterexamples_to_Relativity.22_page|two million people]] who read the stuff.
::First, something being unquestioned (the consensus argument is not scientific as true science is based on sound evidence/experiments and not merely voting) does not make something true.
::First, something being unquestioned (the consensus argument is not a scientific argument as true science is based on sound evidence/experiments and not merely voting) does not make something true.
::Second, from an astrophysicists' website from a [https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/16/do-black-holes-really-exist/ 2015 article]: "So the broad consensus is that black holes definitely exist. There are some astronomers who prefer to withhold judgment until we resolve the region around an event horizon." [https://briankoberlein.com/about/ HERE] is a bio of the astrophysicist.
::Second, from an astrophysicists' website from a [https://briankoberlein.com/2015/08/16/do-black-holes-really-exist/ 2015 article]: "So the broad consensus is that black holes definitely exist. There are some astronomers who prefer to withhold judgment until we resolve the region around an event horizon." [https://briankoberlein.com/about/ HERE] is a bio of the astrophysicist.
::So much for your "unquestioned" claim! :) I empirically showed your claim to be false. Put that in your frontiers of science pipe and smoke it! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:39, 8 February 2016 (EST)
::So much for your "unquestioned" claim! :) I empirically showed your claim to be false. Put that in your frontiers of science pipe and smoke it! :)
::Personally, I am not looked into in the finer points of black holes or black hole like objects. My background in astronomy is taking a college course on the subject (and receiving an above average grade) and a visit to a planetarium.
::I do agree with this to a certain degree: "“‘Cosmology may look like a science, but it isn’t a science,’ says James Gunn of Princeton University, co-founder of the Sloan survey. ‘A basic tenet of science is that you can do repeatable experiments, and you can’t do that in cosmology.’”
Cho, Adrian, A singular conundrum: How odd is our universe? Science 317(5846):1848–1850, 2007."[http://creation.com/cosmology-is-not-science-james-gunn] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:48, 8 February 2016 (EST)
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