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Line 1: − =No= − No way does mainstream Islam endorse violence. Only the radical few (who we all hear about in the papers) take the sections of the Koran literally about attacking/killing infidels. You don't see Indonesia (the most populous Islamic country) pumping out terrorists and constantly killing Christians/Hindus/Jews/etc. Those who believe that Islam promotes violence are sheltered in their learnings. [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 10:28, 3 April 2007 (EDT) − − :Actually, indonesian muslims are constantly killing Christians. [[http://www.christiantoday.com/article/shock.as.three.christian.school.girls.in.indonesia.are.beheaded/4397.htm]][[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 18:33, 3 April 2007 (EDT) − − ::constantly, really? Explain that to my christian aunt, uncle and 2 cousins who lived there for 3 years. I'm sure they'd love to hear how they were constantly threatened. I was there for a time as well and received nothing but excellent treatment from the locals. [[User:Jrssr5|Jrssr5]] 23:28, 3 April 2007 (EDT) − − :::excellent treatment, really. Explain that to me as i too spent time there and received more than a few threats. Perhaps i misstated using the word "constantly" but muslims in indonesia clearly do persecute and kill Christians, and it is false to say that they dont, no matter what your relatives tell you.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 22:15, 4 April 2007 (EDT) − − No. How many Western Muslim terrorists are there? (I mean those who have lived in Western nations their whole lives). It's environment, not religion, that causes violence. [[User:Czolgolz|Czolgolz]] 10:31, 3 April 2007 (EDT) − − :All of the London bombers were born and raised in Britain[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4676577.stm]. Look here to see all of the Western born muslim terrorists [http://www.spiked-online.com/Printable/0000000CAC69.htm]. Enjoy.[[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 18:40, 3 April 2007 (EDT) − − − It is ridiculous to claim that all/most of the followers of the second-largest religion in the world endorses violence. − The Arabic word ‘Islam’ has two meanings: to submit and PEACE − As It is wrong to make generalisations about for, example homosexuals or people of different backgrounds, it is also wrong to make such a wrong and strong accusation and generalisation that mainstream Muslims endorse violence. − There might be a very small outspoken minority but it does not mean that mainstream Muslims have the same beliefs − − :I believe it was an Irish philosopher who said that "Evil only triumphs when good men do nothing." If mainstream Islam is doing nothing to stop the extremists when they supposedly don't believe in what those extremists are doing, it is nearly as bad as actively supporting them. But not quite. [[User:CMacloud|CMacloud]] 14:48, 23 February 2008 (EST) − − ==Comment== − Islam is a pretty big thing. It has about a billion and a half adherents, about five times the population of the United States. − − The United States includes Republicans and Democrats, Timothy McVeigh and Martin Luther King, Unitarians and Seventh-Day Adventists, members of the Crips and members of Habitat for Humanity, vegetarians and gun lobbyists, the ACLU and Focus on the Family. America includes violence and America includes apple pie. I like to think apple pie is more mainstream. − − Would you care to sum up "mainstream America" in a short, facile generalization? I wouldn't. And I know a lot more about America than I do about Islam. − − Hey, I didn't know what Shi'ites and Sunnis were until five years ago. And I barely know them now. (Saddam Hussein was a Sunni, but was he a "mainstream" Sunni? Quick, without looking it up: is Al-Qaeda Sunni or Shi'ite?) − − I'm not sure how many of the pundits writing newspaper columns in English the topic can speak Arabic. − − '''I''' for one sure don't know whether "mainstream Islam endorses violence." [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:39, 5 April 2007 (EDT) − − Mainstream Islam... how many people are Muslims? And how many of these people are radical? The radical/total people ratio is so small that it is unbelievably prejudiced to think that the entire religion endorses violence. That's like seeing a couple people in American with 9 fingers and thinking everyone in the country does. − − Mainstream American Muslims have condemned violence, but this is conveniently overlooked. Here is one example: − − "Scholars condemn attacks on civilians as a violation of Islamic teaching − Thurs., July. 28, 2005 − American Muslim scholars who interpret religious law for their community issued an edict Thursday condemning terrorism against civilians in response to the wave of deadly attacks in Britain and other countries. − − In the statement, called a fatwa, the 18-member Fiqh Council of North America wrote that people who commit terrorism in the name of Islam were “criminals, not ‘martyrs.”’ − − http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8740980/ − − I know repeat KNOW most Muslims are compassionate humane people (unlike many christians I know) the violent people make up about .1 % of the Muslim population. anyone who says otherwise are ignorant. − − Is it just me, or does Yes and No seem to be using different definitions of mainstream? Yes defines mainstream as the most influential/powerful/vocal part of Islam (which is most surely radical Islam), whilst No defines it as the most numerous part. - JamesCA, 25 May 2011
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