Talk:McCarthyism
Honestly, this is a terrible article. Filled with paranoid bias to the point of bursting. Graham 18:36, 22 September 2007 (EDT)
- This article is moreless evolving into a history of the Cold War, and its roots. Before it's through, it will probably span a period from the 1930s to the 1980s; the liberal bias and deceit regarding McCarthyism is moreless over. And we ban trolls who cannot contribute constructively. Rob Smith 14:24, 24 September 2007 (EDT)
Unlocked
Could this article be unlocked for editing? I'd like to correct a few minor grammatical errors and perhaps reword the intro, while keeping the points intact. If unlocking isn't possible, could I submit a revised copy to a sysop for uploading? Jeffrey W. LauttamusDiscussion 19:10, 25 July 2009 (EDT)
- This article needs editing / rewriting. Is there some safe way to unlock it for some trusted editors? I stopped reading after a while because the grammar and usage errors are almost overpowering. PaulBurnett 23:13, 27 May 2010 (EDT)
Need for clarification
The article still needs clarification. I'd like to know what "McCarthyism" is, and in what way the term is valid or misleading.
Was there an invalid attempt (or ploy or campaign) to associate Joseph McCarthy was actual (or imputed) abuses of Congress's power of investigation? If so, which parts were valid and which parts were invalid?
It's my understanding, that in some cases at least, actors or other prominent people in the creative arts, were "raked over the coals" unless they agreed to "name names". To what extent is this true? And if true at all, to what extent was McCarthy involved?
On the other hand, were there any ground for McCarthy to be suspicious of enemy infiltration into the federal government, particularly by Communist spies? If so, please list a representative group of spies who were unmasked.
Let's present McCarthy as a noble crusader, if indeed that is what he was. But if he did anything wrong, let's not engage in a whitewash.
- Let's give him as much respect as Martin Luther King, who ushered in an era of equal rights for the races, despite his personal failings (adultery?) and the turn to the left he took in his last couple of years. (Sun Myung Moon admired him, which should count for something)
I really want our articles on McCarthy to be cleaned up and made a shining example of conservative thought which is also accurate, balanced, fair, and of high encyclopedic quality. Let's tell the truth, and also make the reader aware of any lingering POVs that we think aren't true. We can do better than Wikipedia! --Ed Poor Talk 11:57, 15 September 2010 (EDT)
- McCarthy is more of a tragic figure then a demonic or heroic figure; he wasn't perfect, had many flaws, and suffered from being fed bad information by Hoover's FBI. He was barking up the wrong tree. But McCarthy's basic premise was correct, and much closer to the mark than his critics (the guilty parties who falsely claim to be 'victims' of McCarthyism are much deserving of condemnation). And now we more closely understand what the reality of the situation was, and why Hoover fed McCarthy bad information. Rob Smith 16:17, 21 September 2010 (EDT)
Where on Earth did this term's history come from?
First of all, McCarthyism was not coined in Moscow as part of some Communist conspiracy. His claims regarding communists and the list (and subsequent fame) were not made until February of 1950. The term appeared in newspapers in March of 1950. How in the world would the people of Moscow know that some obscure Senator from Wisconsin would have such a meteoric rise in fame three months ahead of time? (Presuming it would have to be in 1949 since anytime later would be too late and anytime sooner would be even more ludicrous). I'll go through the rest of the article, but this isn't starting off promisingly. EnochCrosby 13:26, 23 November 2011 (EST)
- "[S]ome obscure Senator from Wisconsin"??? Communists were far smarter than that. They surely knew who McCarthy was, as well as nearly every other prominent anti-communist like him.--Andy Schlafly 13:48, 23 November 2011 (EST)
