User talk:NishantXavier

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User talk:NishantXavier Archive 1

Please keep the Catholic/Protestant issues on debate pages and encyclopedia articles

Gentelemen, please keep the Catholic/Protestant conflicts on civil debate pages using well-organized debate pages. Have your arguments on those pages be as logical and well-supported as possible.

Please have encyclopedia articles dealing with Protestant/Catholic/Eastern Orthodox issues be as objective as possible. And please have their talk pages be as constructive as possible.

NishantXavier, please have your debate pages have a "Yes" section and a "No" section. Please see my reformatting of your latest debate page at: Debate: Is there a Purgatory before Judgment Day.Conservative (talk) 10:34, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

All right. I will. - NishantXavier

NishantXavier, please indent your dialogues with other users using colons and remember to sign all of your comments. I have noticed that I have had to indent your comments using colons because you did not due this. Thanks.Conservative (talk) 10:50, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

Ok. I missed to do it above. I did it now. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:55, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

All this excludes me cause I'm not interested in church debates. I want neutral scriptural debates. Still waiting for these knowledgeable purveyors of God's truth to engage at Debate: Explain the apparent inconsistency between Ex. 33:11 and Jn. 1:18 to establish their bona fides and authority. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 10:56, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

RobS, you can make your scriptural arguments on debate pages. You can put scriptural resources/arguments on Conservapedia's Christianity encylopedia pages (and have the talk pages of those articles be as constructive as possible).

Please keep the conflict off of NishantXavier's talk page.Conservative (talk) 11:10, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

I'm being baited into being a called an "anti-Catholic zealot" or bigot. Discussing church, rather than bible, only facilities such a set up. Bible discussions are neutral. While someone may cite a Catholic or Protestant scholar as the basis for their personal understanding of a scripture, the focus remains on illuminating scripture verses itself, and not needless emotional attachments to institutions. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:21, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

If your successfully being baited, there is one sure way to end this problem. Stop allowing yourself to be baited. Ultimately, you choose what to respond to and what not to respond to.Conservative (talk) 11:24, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

In the meantime, please try to stay off of NishantXavier's talk page and instead direct your efforts to creating debates pages and creating encyclopedia content.

Websites with strong web traffic have quality, user friendly content that is well-organized.

Search engines rarely give top rankings to wiki User talk pages. Why? Because they are typically a mismash of various topics and tend to be less informative. Conservapedia could use more search engine traffic. Creating debate pages and creating encyclopedia content will do that.Conservative (talk) 11:31, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

Moving your announcement of your Third Ecumenical Nicene Council 2025 article

I moved your announcement of your creation of "Third Ecumenical Nicene Council 2025" to its talk page.

The article you created lacked a Eastern Orthodox view of the event so I added this view to the article.

You know there is tension between you and RobSmith which is something I am attempting to tamp down.

Please stop using your talk page in a manner that is bound to increase the temperature of the aforementioned conflict. You must know that using your talk page to promote the Catholic view of the primacy of the Catholic Church is not going to decrease the conflict, but increase it. Thank you.Conservative (talk) 15:10, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

Feel free to create a debate page about the Essay: Third Ecumenical Nicene Council 2025 issue if you wish to debate non-Catholics about this matter. You can do so here: Debate: Will there be a Third Ecumenical Nicene Council in 2025? (see my commments below) Conservative (talk)

I did some initial investigation of this proposed gathering in Nicea in 2025.

Even a Jesuit website indicates: "The Vatican has not issued a formal statement on the patriarch’s revelation, presumably because it emerged in a private conversation between him and the pope. But, pressed for clarification by journalists, Father Federico Lombardi, S.J., described Bartholomew’s idea as “very beautiful and significant”; he presented it as an agreement “to hold a joint commemoration of the first ecumenical council held in Nicea in 325 AD.” He recalled that Bartholomew was the first to propose the idea for the recent meeting in Jerusalem commemorating the historic encounter Patriarch Athenagoras and Pope Paul VI in 1964. He emphasized, however, that the patriarch actually spoke about “a gathering” at Nicea, and did not characterize it as an ecumenical council."[1]

The National Catholic Reporter indicated in 2014: "Vatican: Too early to confirm 2025 Orthodox-Catholic summit".[2]

In a 2014 article entitled Nicea III in 2025, the American Catholic journal Commonweal indicates: "The exact nature of the planned meeting at Nicea (now Iznik, Turkey) is not known. But how could it be, over a decade in the future?"[3]

So it seems to me that the Catholic Church has not yet determined what the nature of the potential 2025 meeting will be. We don't even know if the meeting will occur.

In light of the above, I moved the article to essay space.Conservative (talk) 17:21, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

It is now at: Essay: Third Ecumenical Nicene Council 2025.Conservative (talk) 19:20, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

All right. Essay format is fine. And I know there is some uncertainty about the format, but Fr. Mark White and others, as was mentioned, are convinced it will be a Third Nicene Council. At any rate, it will certainly be an ecumenical gathering to which all Christians are invited to commemorate Nicaea. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:02, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

In the future, you have to separate what you want to be true, from what is a fact. I know you want there to be a meeting and you want it to be ecumenical, but there is no certainty that either will happen.

Remember, encyclopedias are meant to deal mainly with facts and not opinions. And when encyclopedias do endeavor to document opinions of various parties, they clearly state they are the opinions of a certain party or parties. Conservative (talk) 21:57, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

All right. I tried to give the perspectives of various persons on the upcoming events. Some, like Fr. White more recently, consider it a Council; others, like Fr. Lombardi, said in 2014 that it was yet unsure what kind of meeting it would be. I read the updated essay. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:53, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

Inviting Collaboration for articles on Popes; and on Christianity in every country

Non-debate topic. There have been about 266 Popes from Saint Peter and Pope Linus through Pope Benedict XVI and Pope Francis. I believe only about 10 to 20 articles so far have been created for these 266 men. So that means the scope and future potential of over 200+ future articles remains. I invite collaboration on this matter from all interested conservative posters here at Conservapedia, Catholic and non-Cath alike.

Or if someone prefers, there are over 200 countries in the world. 205. The Christianity by Country Category has just over 10 countries: https://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Christianity_by_Country So again there is scope here for research on nearly 200 future articles. Again, I invite all interested collaborators, Catholic or non-Catholic, as well as Christian or even conservative non-Christian, to work on this one. We can keep track of Global Christianity. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:10, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

Links to the current ongoing debates: On Existence of Purgatory, on Church Authority etc

Existence of Purgatory: https://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:_Is_there_a_Purgatory_before_Judgment_Day Christ's Church Authority: https://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:Does_the_Catholic_Church_have_the_biblical_authority_of_Christ_Himself_to_preach_and_to_teach_the_truth_forever%3F

Greatest Evangelists of the 20th Century: Pope John Paul II, Abp. Sheen, Billy Graham, Reinhard Bonnke

I want to do an Article or Essay on the Greatest Evangelists of the 20th century, whether Catholic or Evangelical. Abp. Sheen and Billy Graham, who were also good friends, are two obvious names. Pope John Paul II and Reinhard Bonnke were two other great Evangelists for Christianity. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:33, 27 July 2020 (EDT.

Quick note about your request to give my Christian testimony

I did as you requested in terms of giving my Christian testimony. It is at: https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:150_Million_Souls_for_Christ_the_King#User:_Conservative.27s_testimony

Sincerely, User: Conservative.Conservative (talk) 22:32, 2 August 2020 (EDT)

Wow, Thanks a Lot, Conservative! I just read it, it looks really great! Thank you. Heaven rejoices when anyone of us gives our testimony for Christ our King!

About your life journey, I also liked Josh McDowell's general apologetics for Christianity. If you're interested specifically in Bible Prophesy, you may like this article: https://www.conservapedia.com/Prophesies_Fulfilled_by_Christ I added a list of about 25 specific prophesies, showing they were fulfilled only in Jesus Christ Our Lord and God, the Promised Jewish Messiah: "Some probability estimations

If we assume there is a 0.0001 (0.01%) chance or probability of a person fulfilling one of these prophesies by accident, what would be the probability that that person could fulfill all these prophesies? It would be at least (1/10^4)^25=1/10^100 i.e. 0.00[99 zeros]1. This incredibly low number would be the likelihood that one born in Bethlehem could be worshiped as God in every Gentile country, that one born of a Virgin would be recognized as Light of the Nations, that one born of the House of David would be God in the Flesh, that the Son of Man would be served by all tribes, that He could offer His Life as a Ransom or Sacrifice for many, and Institute a Perpetual Priesthood with a Perpetual Offering of this Mystical Sacrifice, and so on. The probability, or certainty, that He Who did this is truly God and the Messiah is = 1-(1/10^100) = (almost) 1. In other words, it is virtually certain.

https://www.conservapedia.com/Prophesies_Fulfilled_by_Christ

Question

Hi NishantXavier, I've got an important question. Since I unfortunately haven't set up an email for my CP account, I can't send an email to any other users who have done so. Can you see if you can contact either Dataclarifier or IndependentSkeptic? While I definitely pray for them every day, I'd really hope to be able to stay in touch with them (at least from time to time) in some way to make sure that everything's okay for them (seeing as IndependentSkeptic specified his fourth most previous edit as his last one). Thanks! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Tuesday, 12:34, 4 August 2020 (EDT)

Our whole household has just settled down for our mid-afternoon "retirement" naps, so before I did, I looked in on NishantXavier's page, and saw your Question. I believe no email can be sent to me from CP. As far as I remember, I never set up an accessible email for my own CP account, unless submitting my email address was originally a privacy-protected requirement of CP for legitimacy at the time I first created my account; I don't remember.
At the beginning of my involvement with CP I encountered about a hundred Captcha challenges over a period of about 3 months before finally my edits were taken as a sign of legitimate activity in good faith on CP, and my contributions of created articles were later welcomed by Andy Schlafly as valuable. But that beginning was over 7 years ago. My own computer tech, a friend who helped me set up my home station, advised me 14 years ago never to divulge my email address to any public-access online site as protection against both troll harassment and vicious hacking, and to never use my computer for banking and filing personal important data; and I also a few years ago discovered online a tip on how to constantly change my IP address:

turn off your computer, disconnect the modem, unplug from the power source or turn off the power-strip (surge-protector) for 25 minutes, then plug-in/turn on the power, reconnect the modem, turn on the computer, and when the screen comes up, do a restart: the IP address that appears when you log on to the same or another site will be completely different.

Only the region of the country or the city you post from will be traceable by ordinary means. Hackers will be a different animal. That's why some form of firewall and malicious edit protection from malware, spyware, computer viruses, etc. is imperative.

I too have an important request. Please: don't use NishantXavier's talk page as a ready chat room for contact with me and IndependentSkeptic (and my elderly mother, 93). He was recently asked by another user to ask me for a response, and he honestly said he couldn't, since I was unavailable. Now you know why. (By the way, FYI, my name is Michael Paul Heart: IndependentSkeptic's name is Delwayne Royd Mullin.)

I will "pop-in", as he put it, about every 3 months to look at this page. I appreciate your concern, Liberaltears, and yours, NishantXavier. We all do. Meanwhile, I suggest you both do what Father Nelo Leto said to me in 1985 about my concern for my former New Age acquaintances: pray for them, and let the Holy Spirit deal with them, and leave it at that: you can trust Him to know what He's doing. Use that advice in your present concern for us. Be at peace and content yourself with that, at least. He is a living God, not a dead concept of human belief and wishful thinking.

Right now, it's August. I'll "pop-in" again in November. I wish you well in your studies. Pax vobis. --Dataclarifier (talk) 17:32, 4 August 2020 (EDT)

Thank you very much for replying, Dataclarifier! I understand your concerns with not wanting to converse on any talk pages here; I posted this section here after simply being too pessimistic earlier today wondering if I may never be able to get in contact with you again, especially after I had finished a load of tedious work and was becoming very lonely with a life I couldn't exactly enjoy much for the past while now. I initially wanted to tell you something important, but I suspect that doing so will get me blocked by one of the anti-Catholic editors on this site (see block log here). God Bless, and I hope your eyesight may be restored fully if not so already! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Tuesday, 19:12, 4 August 2020 (EDT)

Hi Liberal Tears. My email address is on my One Peter Five page. Anyone who wishes can also follow me on Twitter https://twitter.com/Xavier_DMercy Are you on Twitter? If so, we can catch up there. Or else if you have any other platform to remain in touch, I'm all ears. I'm happy D/C and I/S will pop in from time to time. I'm happy to meet the people and team here and I hope we all stay in touch. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:05, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Hi NishantXavier, I unfortunately don't have a Twitter account. I don't know if I'll be able to find a good way to send you an email, if anytime soon at all. By the way, did you notice that I was blocked by Shobson20 over the past two weeks? The previous block has been lifted though. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Wednesday, 11:04, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Didn't he put, Go and sin no more in the edit summary? RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:29, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Hi Liberal Tears, I'm sorry to hear that. I can vouch that you have made many important edits. However, I also hope we can all agree to no public criticism of moderators. If we have a disagreement, it may be best to take it up with the individual in private. I think that's the best way that CP will work for all. Anyway, I've been away for a bit myself. Just coming back. Hope we can all work together constructively and peaceably in future. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:05, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Awesome to see that you're back, NishantXavier, and thanks for replying! About the disputes with Shobson20 a few weeks ago, the good news is that the tension has mostly evaporated after we had found common ground in disdain for a series of server errors here on CP as well as combating vandals. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Saturday, 01:44, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Awesome to hear that, Liberal Tears. Peace and Grace and God's Blessings be upon you and upon all of us here at CP. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:47, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Thank you, and God Bless! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Saturday, 01:53, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Debate Page on Holy Communion - is it literally the Body and Blood of Christ, or just a bare empty symbolic reminder

Debate Page at: https://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:Is_Holy_Communion_the_True_Body_and_Precious_Blood_of_Jesus_Christ#1_Cor_11:23-30_To_partake_unworthily_is_to_become_guilty_of_the_Blood_of_Christ._Impossible_if_symbolic

Three Texts from Our Lord Jesus and St. Paul are considered. More later. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:45, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Debate: Is the Roman Catholic doctrine of grace biblical?

Is there anything you can contribute to this debate? Debate: Is the Roman Catholic doctrine of grace biblical? I've contributed what I could. Is there more you could add? Thanks. --Dataclarifier (talk) 22:05, 12 August 2020 (EDT)

Apologies to all. I've been away, busy in other things. I hope to get back to posting more on Conservapedia in the days to come. I'll take a look at the debate. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:03, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

All right, Data Clarifier. I posted a brief section in the above debate. It is so clear to us. Unfortunately, our separated brethren need some help in seeing it. But it is plain in the Scriptures that we can fall from Grace through mortal sin, and be restored back by Confession of sins. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:27, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Thank you.
I just set up another Debate page for others to participate in. For myself and IndependentSkeptic, we just don't have the energy any more. Just take a look at it, but don't get involved unless you really feel you should. We feel we shouldn't be obligating our friends in any way–it's just not fair. The title of the debate already implies the only possible answer.

• Debate: Have the gates of hell prevailed against the church Jesus founded on a rock, when He Himself said it could never happen? Did Christ who cannot lie fail to fulfill his promise?

Peace be with you. We are well, just feeling old. I still lift light dumbbells for exercise. My mother is 93 and amazingly alert. She says, "Just don't say that "O" word. ("Old"). Stay safe buddy. --Dataclarifier (talk) 22:25, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

By the way, already a hot angry response has appeared on the Debate page and its Talk page. Do you know why some metal wires get hotter than others? Resistance. John 3:19-21. The more they resist the hotter they get. The truth can really burn. They need compassion, and they need the truth, even if it seems harsh as Jesus had compassion on the Sadducees and scribes and Pharisees by warning them of the truth of their hypocrisy and of God's forgiveness and mercy and judgment and wrath. We need to do as you have been doing, and persistently, and calmly, and unapologetically, always give a reason for the hope we have in the integrity of Christ and the holy scriptures. Sad that it makes them angry, but it can have a salutary effect on sinners to call them back from the error of their way if they are seeking truly to do the will of the Father. James 5:19-20; Matthew 7:21-23. Peace be with you. Amen. --Dataclarifier (talk) 23:00, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

If you think they're angry now, wait until I potentially create an essay along the lines of "Essay:Why Dataclarifier is one of Conservapedia's Greatest Editors"! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Thursday, 23:25, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Please don't; it's too easy to take a quarter of a million of his own bytes and spam the page to argue in the negative, since he's pioneered and set a precedent that style of debate as acceptable. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 23:41, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

It really burns, doesn't it. I told you it would. I was right. You need to rethink your position. May God have mercy on you. I include a petition for you at the prayers of the faithful at almost every Mass. --Dataclarifier (talk) 02:16, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

I guess that's why your mouth is stopped when you hear the gospel of grace, and can only ask for an explanation about when the gates of hell prevailed.

ye are not under law but under grace.

If you were under grace, your mouth wouldn't be stopped. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 02:32, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

I posted on the Gates of Hell page. Our Lord uses a striking metaphor. He means to show no hostile power whatsoever will be effective against His Church. His Church will be attacked. But because He made Simon the Rock of His Church on Earth, it will be secure from all attacks on Her Faith and on Her Unity. Her Faith is the full 100% Truth. The separated Christian communities can have 50% of the Truth to 90% of the Truth. But in One Church, all Christians will find 100% Truth. That was God's original design for all Christians. How nice it would be, what a testimony for Christ our King, what an invitation to non-Christians to become Christian, if only all Christians remained in perfect charity and full unity with one another today!!!NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:20, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Debate Page on Confession: Is Confession of Sins required for the Forgiveness of Sins

Page Here: https://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:_Is_Confession_of_Sins_required_for_the_Forgiveness_of_Sins

No one wants to discuss this subject? Rob Smith, do you have any thoughts on Confession? NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:16, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

I think you need to rephrase the question. No one disputes confession is necessary; the question is, does a third party mediator have power to absolve sin. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 11:39, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

I believe that aspect is addressed in points 2 and 3. The first point considers Confession in general. The Second Point shows it must be made before Priests, since the Presbyters of the Church are to be called in, as St. James the Apostle writes. The third, from the Gospel of St. John, shows the Lord God granted to His Apostles, the first Bishops and Priests of His Church, the authority to retain and remit sins, which is the power of absolution NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:25, 31 August 2020 (EDT) 10:34, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

We're all priests, believers that is, are priests. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 08:20, 15 September 2020 (EDT)

• 1 Peter 2:4-6 - As you come to him, a living stone rejected by men but in the sight of God chosen and precious, you yourselves like living stones are being built up as a spiritual house, to be a holy priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it stands in Scripture: “Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a cornerstone chosen and precious, and whoever believes in him will not be put to shame.”

This is the priesthood of all believers, not an exclusive clique. And by telling the laity they have to wait till death to join the priesthood, you are holding back people from salvation, i.e. you are doing the devil's work. RobS^{Free Kyle!} 15:24, 15 September 2020 (EDT)

Presbyters are Ordained Priests. Do you know what Orders are? Presbyters are translated Elders in Protestant translations. They confuse you. All Christians are not Presbyters. You partake of the royal priesthood when you are baptized. You partake of ministerial priesthood when you are ordained.

Here is St. Paul talking of Ordained Presbyters/Ministerial Priests:

Tit 1:5 "For this cause I left thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and shouldest ordain priests in every city, as I also appointed thee:"

1 Tim 4:14 "Neglect not the grace that is in thee, which was given thee by prophesy, with imposition of the hands of the priesthood." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:15, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

How are you doing?

Hi NishantXavier, I'm just wondering, how are you doing? I currently don't see you around on CP as much, and I do hope all is well for you! God Bless! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Friday, 02:27, 4 September 2020 (EDT)

I'm doing ok, Liberal Tears. Engaged in other things mostly for now. Will try to find more time for CP going forward. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:00, 15 September 2020 (EDT)

Okay, thank you for replying, NishantXavier!
—Liberaltears^{May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!} Tuesday, 08:12, 15 September 2020 (EDT)

Judge Barrett is going to be a Great Supreme Court Justice

Amy Coney Barrett is going to be a Great Supreme Court Justice! Let's pray and work for her speedy confirmation. I earlier edited the main article on the pro-life Catholic Mother of 7. I'll see if I can add more information going forward. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:17, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

Let's get Conservapedia to 60,000 Articles and 1 Billion Page Views soon

I've contributed around 1120 edits. I want to get to 2000 soon and 10000 by the end of the year if possible. And we have Conservapedia's own stats to promote as well. 800 million page views is nearly 1 view per 10 people living on Earth. Let's try to get to 1 billion views soon, with 60,000 articles!

Will Christianity cross 3 billion adherents by the year 2030?

Yes, there are good reasons to think it will, by the Grace of God! Imagine what a monumental achievement it will be, and how greatly it will please Christ Our Lord, that His Heroic Sacrifice for us was not in vain, because 3 billion souls at least have the potential to reap benefits from it. This end-times spread of His Kingdom to all Nations is also a fulfilment of His own prophesy in Mat 24:14, which could not but fail to come to pass.

Article: https://conservapedia.com/Debate:_Will_Christianity_reach_3_billion_adherents_by_2030 Additions, Contributions, Suggestions all welcome. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:25, 26 March 2021 (EDT)

Hi NishantXavier

You wrote to me:

"Hi Conservative. I hope you are well. I've been away from Conservapedia for a bit. I pray you and your family are doing well in the Lord.

Would you like to contribute to this article if you have time? Given the past articles you've authored, Conservative, I think this one will be right up your alley. You may like it and find it enjoyable to do so. I have great hopes for this end times harvest miraculously prophesied in Mat 24:14 that is currently going on. https://conservapedia.com/Debate:_Will_Christianity_reach_3_billion_adherents_by_2030 One area that is sure to bring more fruit to the Kingdom of God than ever before is the area of Internet evangelism which both of us I know are very interested in! Interesting times we live in!

Pray you are well. In Our Lord Jesus, Nishant X. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:33, 26 March 2021 (EDT)"

Based on this information Status of Global Christianity/atheism, 2021, in the Context of 1900–2050, I think self-proclaimed Christians will hit 3 billion adherents in about 12 years (or possibly sooner). The wild cards are China, the growth of pentecostalism and the amount of internet evangelism. China's communists are oppressing Christians, but the history of the Roman Empire and Christian history in general shows that perseculation can actually fan the flames of Christian growth.

I am going to pass on contributing to your article. I have to memorize about 11+ pages worth on material and then implement what I memorized. I also had a few lucrative opportunities come my way that will require me to improve a skill set of mine in order to maximize profits. I have so much to do - at least in the short/midterm.

Recently, I helped a website gain millions of monthly extra visits. The internet is a very powerful medium. In the 1500s, the printing press helped revolutionize the world (Gutenberg Press). Now it appears to be the internet. Conservative (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2021 (EDT)

Thanks, Conservative. 12 years will be the Grand Jubilee Year, 2033! Please see https://www.jc2033.world/en/ and http://www.evangelization2033.eu/ It probably deserves its own article. But I'm excited and interested that soon 3 billion people will profess faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. Many believe this end-times harvest will lead to a Billion Soul Harvest. Benny Prasad said, from the above link: "I believe ‘Jesus Celebration 2033’ is ordained and initiated by God. I support this vision 100% and urge the Body of Christ from all nations to unite together to celebrate our Lord Jesus Christ’s resurrection, the greatest event in all of history." I agree that Christianity is growing fast in China, and I would add India and Africa to the list. Those three places alone can help Christendom cross the 3 billion souls mark. Persecution is fierce in some of these regions, but as you say, persecution does not stop the rapid growth of the Kingdom of God. And Internet Evangelism really is the key. 7.5 billion people will use the internet by 2030, up nearly 4 billion from current levels, I think. There's a huge opportunity for the Body of Christ to leverage this platform.

We must win the intellectual, moral and spiritual battle with atheists on the internet. Atheism and liberal secularist ideologies are the main threat.

Nice to know you helped a company gain millions of visits. Hopefully, we at Conservapedia will play our part in leading many to Christ. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:42, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Grand Jubilee Year, 2033: Great Christian Celebration expected

Article now up. Contributions and suggestions welcome: https://conservapedia.com/Grand_Jubilee_Year_2033

Wouldn't it be an Awesome Gift to Our Lord Jesus Christ, as a Thank You from His Church for His Sacrificial Death, and Glorious Resurrection, that saved us, if we can manage to reach 3 billion souls or more by then? Reinhard Bonnke, the great late Evangelist, said it was his mission "to plunder Hell to populate Heaven", and that he wants to see only one thing: "I want to see Hell empty, and Heaven Full", so that the holy Lamb of God may receive the "Reward of His Sacrifice and His Sufferings". Indeed, the Lord has also promised a Reward to each person who labors in His Harvest. Most Christian Theologians explain this as a Jewel to be added to each Christian's Eternal Crown, if that person helps lead another soul to salvation in Jesus Christ Our Lord. So much incentives and so many motivations Our Lord has given us to work for Him as laborers in His Harvest.

Pope Francis, Bishop of Rome: "This is a very beautiful project, a very big project! Thank you for doing this."

Paul Esleman: "I believe that Jesus Celebration 2033 will be the greatest opportunity in this generation to present Jesus to the world. The resurrection of Jesus is the greatest event of all history that gives unprecendented hope for the future."

Teresa Rossi: "The great potential of an initiative such as Jesus Celebration 2033 lies in rooting the Christian witness in the celebration of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. The witness of Christians who, united in the name of Jesus, celebrate the love of God the Father for humankind and the life-giving power of the Holy Spirit is crucial for an effective proclamation of the Gospel. If it is the lifting of the Cross of Christ that draws us together, it is the Resurrection that sends us forth to witness, united in the Risen One and strengthened by the love of the Holy Spirit." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:00, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

Theological debates

Hello NishantXavier, perhaps you recall the great debates over Scripture with Dataclarifier and RobSmith three years ago. In less than the past year, I've diligently studied the New Testament, and having now obtained vast biblical knowledge with the guidance of the Spirit, would be delighted to discuss/debate theology if you're interested—for example, about annihilationism, Sabbath vs. Sunday observance, and judgment after death. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Sunday, 18:46, April 16, 2023 (EDT)

Hi LT, it's good to hear you've been reading the Bible. I hope you start reading the Church Fathers too, some of whom were disciples of the Apostles, to see what the Early Christians believed and how they lived in love. Many of them died as Martyrs for Christ. One such was Saint Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of Saint John the Apostle. Here is his Epistle to the Smyreans: https://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0109.htm God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King}

I'll start reading the writings of the Early Church Fathers soon. For starters, "Against Heresies" by Irenaeus is a must, and that is the only early writing addressing and condemning the Gospel of Judas, I believe. Ignatius, in addition to Polycarp of Smyrna, also a disciple of the Apostle John, seem like fascinating church figures to learn more about. God bless! —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 19:18, April 17, 2023 (EDT)

Amen! Against Heresies by Irenaeus is excellent. It also mentions the Four Gospel accounts.

I quoted it here and explained how we know who wrote the Four Gospels and when and why they were written early, not late, as liberals pretend:

"Saint Irenaeus records: Matthew also issued a written Gospel among the Hebrews in their own dialect, while Peter and Paul were preaching at Rome, and laying the foundations of the Church. After their departure, Mark, the disciple and interpreter of Peter, did also hand down to us in writing what had been preached by Peter. Luke also, the companion of Paul, recorded in a book the Gospel preached by him. Afterwards, John, the disciple of the Lord, who also had leaned upon His breast, did himself publish a Gospel during his residence at Ephesus in Asia. (Adversus Haereses BIII, C1) Since having an idea of when St. Peter preached and when he died would help in outlining dates for the first Gospel, and also the others, we can investigate when this took place. St. Jerome tells us on St. Peter:

Simon Peter the son of John, from the village of Bethsaida in the province of Galilee … pushed on to Rome in the second year of Claudius (A.D. 42) to overthrow Simon Magus, and held the sacerdotal chair there for twenty-five years until the last, that is the fourteenth, year of Nero (A.D. 67) … then too the Gospel according to Mark, who was his disciple and interpreter, is ascribed to him[.] … Buried at Rome in the Vatican near the triumphal way he is venerated by the whole world. The time of St. Peter’s preaching being known, we can arrive at broad dates to begin with:" https://reasonstobechristian.com/blog/f/matthew-wrote-first-calculating-the-dates-for-the-gospels NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:52, April 17, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, liberal deniers like to pretend that the Gospels, and really most of the New Testament for that matter, were not written by the traditionally attributed authors. Speaking of this subject, and especially since you mentioned the Apostle John above, there's also this debate about the authorship of Revelation, since Andy is skeptical of Johannine authorship of the last book of the Bible. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Tuesday, 22:56, April 17, 2023 (EDT)

Interesting, thank you! Just briefly commented on the Patristic Testimony toward Apostolic Authorship of the Apocalypse/Revelation. Anyway, dear brother, especially since as I remember it you're quite young, very happy to hear of your spiritual progress. Keep reading the Word of God, and practicing it, and praying, and growing closer and closer to Our Lord Jesus Christ. God Bless you NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:59, April 18, 2023 (EDT)

I appreciate the kind thoughts, and pray for the Lord to continue guiding you likewise, especially as I believe we are currently in the last days. And to reiterate my point above, if you have any thoughts to share in the discussions about soul sleep, annihilationism, and Sabbath vs. Sunday, I would absolutely be thrilled to hear your understanding on those topics. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Tuesday, 10:46, April 18, 2023 (EDT)

Ok, let's start with whether hell is eternal but we can discuss it down below.

Is Hell Eternal?

Here is Matthew 25:

"41“Then He will also say to those on the left hand, ‘Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels: 42for I was hungry and you gave Me no food; I was thirsty and you gave Me no drink; 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, naked and you did not clothe Me, sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

44“Then they also will answer [d]Him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45Then He will answer them, saying, ‘Assuredly, I say to you, inasmuch as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.’ 46And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Points to note:

1. The wicked go into everlasting fire, the same prepared for the devil and his angels. 2. They go there because they refused to love God and their neighbor and do good works (incidentally this verse also shows persevering in doing good works, in addition to grace and faith, is necessary for final salvation imo) 3. And just as the righteous receive eternal life, the wicked receive everlasting punishment.

Another verse, fairly self-explanatory: "And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” (Rev 14:11)

God has the right to strictly forbid human beings from doing certain things and threaten everlasting punishment if we do. It is man's duty to recognize from this how evil sin is and how we must completely repent of it and, by the Grace of God, eradicate it from our lives NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:11, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

It's important to understand what the "everlasting" pertains to in terms of punishment for the wicked so the Bible isn't misinterpreted into self-contradiction. Matthew 10:28 states, "fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." How can the wicked be eternally tormented if they are destroyed (Matthew 10:28), reduced to ashes (Malachi 4:3), utterly consumed (Isaiah 9:18), perish (Psalm 37:20), and, simply put, die (Romans 6:23)?

The answer is that "everlasting punishment" refers to the effect. Jude 7 refers to the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah as suffering the vengeance of "eternal fire." Obviously, the two cities aren't perpetually burning today, so the "eternal" in "eternal fire" in that context refers to the effect, aka destruction, as lasting literally forever and forever. If we apply this concept into Matthew 25:41, Jesus is simply stating that the resulting effect of the punishment against the devil and his angels will last forever, because the second death is permanent. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Wednesday, 10:59, April 19, 2023 (EDT)

First, don't you think someone like a Hitler or Stalin - who would certainly go to hell unless they repented - are more likely to repent based on actual eternal fire lasting forever rather than just a mere temporary death, as you believe? Hell exists for a reason, it is God's "nuclear option"; He has the right to threaten it and to use it, though He hopes He never has to do. The thought of hell has converted terrible sinners, and it has even produced Great Saints, who first become saved by the Grace of God, and then labor mightily to save others from falling into that eternal pit. Now, to the verses I cited, (1) just as the eternal life of the righteous lasts forever, even the eternal punishment of the wicked lasts forever. Otherwise, if one could end, the other could also. Your objection is that some verses speak of eternal punishment as "eternal death" - the meaning is, as death is painful and to be dreaded, so also hell will be eternally painful and dreadful, an eternal misery everyone should hope to be delivered from, which they can only do through Jesus Christ Our Savior. (2) second, the second verse I cited from revelation clearly speaks of conscious torment for those who take the mark of the beast. Again, the watered down view that hell is only annihilation would lead to millions taking the mark of the beast thinking all they'll undergo is a temporal death in hell. No, the Bible makes clear one should NEVER take the Mark of the Beast no matter what. And so, dear LT, there are good Biblical/theological reasons to reject the SDA view on this. Continue to pray, read and do research. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:19, April 21, 2023 (EDT)

Shouldn't we let the Bible interpret itself rather than apply our own interpretations? The verses that speak of Hell overwhelmingly substantiate conditionalism due to the direct usage of words synonymous with destruction such as "consumed," "burned up," "perish," etc. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Saturday, 21:30, April 21, 2023 (EDT)

"Bible Descriptions of Eternal Punishment

There are numerous figures of speech in the New Testament that are designed to stress both the conscious nature of hell’s punishment, and its abiding duration. The ultimate fate of the wicked will be like an “eternal fire” (Matt. 25:41); their “worm dies not (i.e., the gnawing anguish continues on and on) and the fire is not quenched” Mk. 9:48). Hell is a place or state of outer darkness where there is weeping and the gnashing of teeth (Matt. 25:30), as God treads the winepress of His holy wrath (Rev. 19:15). It should be obvious that these symbols intended to convey the horrors of eternal rectitude. The actual punishment will be greater than any figure of speech can portray.

Many have a difficult time reconciling the doctrine of eternal punishment with the character of a benevolent God. Over against this emotional reaction is the sobering testimony of the Bible. When all factors are taken into consideration, the problem is not insurmountable. Consider the following points: (1) No one will be in hell who does not deserve to be there. God is loving, good and merciful (I John 4:8; Psa. 145:9; Eoh. 2:4). The Lord does not desire that a single soul should perish (2 Pet. 3:9), but when men choose to live alienated from Him, and cast their eternal welfare toward hell, God will honor their decision. (2) Because God is holy, He cannot simply overlook sin as if it does not exist (Hab. 1:13); and so, because the Lord is just (Psa. 89:14), evil must be punished (cf. Rev. 16:5). That is why the Father gave His Son as a sacrifice for sin—that He might remain just, and yet be a justifier of those who obey Christ (Rom. 3:24-26; Heb. 5:8-9). No man can complain about the injustice of hell in the face of the cross! (3) Even in hell the judgment will be fair. The Scriptures teach that punishment will be proportionate to the degree of one’s guilt (cf. Matt. 10:15; 11:20-24; Lk. 12:47-48; Heb. 10:29; Rev. 20:1213). One will be judged according to his knowledge, ability, and opportunity. God will be equitable!

The doctrine of eternal punishment was taught by Jesus Christ (who said more about hell than He did about heaven). This subject was acknowledged by the early church, it was endorsed by the “church fathers,” and it was defended by the Reformation period. It wasn’t until the eighteenth century a new wave of “clergymen” within the ranks of “Christendom” began to deny this fundamental tenet of the biblical doctrine. The Seventh-day Adventists are wrong about the punishment of the wicked. You have the choice of believing what men teach or what the Bible teaches. My prayer is that you will accept God’s word." https://montevistacoc.com/multimedia-archive/why-do-seventh-day-adventists-reject-eternal-punishment/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:43, April 21, 2023 (EDT)

Alright, to address the verses you cited and whether they substantiate conditionalism or eternal torment:

• Matt. 25:41: "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels." Again, to reiterate my point above, Jude 7 uses "eternal fire" to describe the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. This should be a clear indication that "eternal fire" doesn't necessarily refer to fire that burns forever.
• Mark 9:48: "where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched." Unquenchable fire refers to the fact that the fire will not be extinguished, not that it will perpetually burn for literal ceaseless ages. When the wicked are punished in hellfire, there will be no firefighters to put out the fire, because their fate of destruction will be inevitable.
• Rev. 19:15: "From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty." This verse alone doesn't seem to address the conditionalism vs. eternal torment debate.
• Luke 12:47–48: "And that servant who knew his master’s will but did not get ready or act according to his will, will receive a severe beating. But the one who did not know, and did what deserved a beating, will receive a light beating. Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more." Now, I've heard arguments by defenders of eternal torment attempt to reconcile this verse with their theology by suggesting that there will be different levels of Hell. While this is true, note that Jesus's comparison uses quantitative wording; such that hellfire burns forever, this analogy doesn't make sense if everyone burns for ceaseless ages. Under conditionalism, it thereby follows that the time each wicked person is burned is proportional to their works.

—LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Saturday, 22:02, April 21, 2023 (EDT)

Also, the article you cite directly quotes Matthew 10:28, which single-handedly substantiates annihilationism/conditionalism. If souls which are plunged into Hell are "destroyed," then they aren't eternally tormented. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Sunday, 20:59, April 22, 2023 (EDT)

Separate

Btw, I founded a New Website, Reasons to be Christian: https://reasonstobechristian.com/ My next post will be about that below. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:03, April 17, 2023 (EDT)

Awesome; just so you know, for such posts, you can write essay pages (i.e. "Essay: Reasons to be a Christian") and link to them from your user page, or create user subpages, so they're more conveniently accessible for readers. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 19:26, April 17, 2023 (EDT)

Reasons to be Christian website

I am deeply interested in Apologetics and Evangelism. And while I am a convinced Catholic Christian, I am also deeply interested in the growth of Christendom as a whole, which we must all pray and work for, as the best bulwark against global leftism and world communism. My site below, Reasons to be Christian, discusses how there are currently 2.6 BN Christians. I shared an article elsewhere that it's expected there will be 3.3 BN Christians, maybe more, by 2050. There were 40 MN more Christians last year. Christians need to re-unite quickly in One Catholic or Universal Church, as Jesus Christ, His Apostles and the Church Fathers taught, and the growth of Christendom will be hastened.

"Basic Introduction and the Purpose of this Website: Welcome, Dear Brothers, Sisters and Friends, to Reasons to become Christian!

Here, as the name of our site implies, we aim to discuss the answers to the Great Question: "Are there Good Reasons to trust Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior or become Christian?" 2.6 Billion Christians around the world, including much of the free world, but also 360 Million Christians who suffer persecution for their Faith, have answered in the affirmative. This site explores Apologetic Reasons why we believe the remaining part of humanity should do the same also. Stay tuned!

From (1) Messianic Prophecies made 100s of years before Christ to (2) Incredible Design/Fine Tuning manifest in the Universe, to (3) Documented and Irrefutable Healing Miracles in Jesus' Name to (4) DNA: Amazing Scientific Proof a Most Wise Supreme Being created us and (5) Archaeological Evidence: "No archaeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical Reference", prepare to be amazed, if you've never heard it before, how much evidence there is for Christianity!

And there's much more: (6) "The Great Saints and their Miracles in 2000 Glorious Years of Christendom" (St. Patrick, St. Francis Xavier, St. John Vianney, St. Padre Pio etc) (7) Eucharistic Miracles: A Very Powerful Evidence for the Truth of Christianity. (8) The Shroud of Turin: Wondrous Artifact/Relic of the Historical Christ's Resurrection. (9)The Resurrection: The Best Documented Fact in History- for which 11 Apostles suffered and died as Martyrs, many more of the 72 disciples doing the same, and witnessed by 500 Eyewitnesses - is Christ's Resurrection.

God bless you all, dear friends, and the deepest most burning desire of my heart is that we may all be saved, live happily here on Earth loving and serving Almighty God, and doing good to our neighbor, and then enjoying eternal happiness with Him, Jesus Christ, His Mother Mary, His legal father St. Joseph, all His Angels and Saints, forever and ever, world without end, Amen!"

From: https://reasonstobechristian.com/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:07, April 17, 2023 (EDT)

Luke 16

You said: "Jesus Christ in Luke 16 also refutes the SDA's opinions because He shows the souls of the departed, in both Heaven and Hades, are still alive, the one in conscious pleasure, the other in conscious pain."

Response: the parable of Lazarus and the rich man was not to indicate that souls following death face immediate judgment. Look at the surrounding passages, and it's clear that the purpose was issuing the Pharisaic Judeans a dire warning: if they harden their hearts in rejecting Jesus, neither will they be convinced if a person was raised from the dead, nor will they find themselves on the same side as Abraham (whom they considered their "Father") in the age to come.

The symbolic references are crucial to understand; the rich man represents the Pharisaic Jews who hold the food/truth and snobbishly hoard it to themselves without charitable concern for others, with the wealth represented by the "purple and fine linen." (verse 19) The poor man, Lazarus, represents the Gentiles who seek the truth but are coldly shunned by the Judeans. (verses 20–21) Now, the usage of "Hades" in the parable is quite fascinating—in basically every other instance, the New Testament employs it as a Greek parallel for the Hebrew sheol in reference to the grave. However, in verse 23, it's described as a conscious place of torment. This description uses Hades in its traditional pagan Greek context, so it should be obvious that it's simply for symbolic representations. The point is that the poor Gentile goes to Abraham's bosom (verse 22), the Jewish place of paradise, while the Pharisaic Jew is sentenced to the Gentile place of torment.

Now, why does Jesus employ the concept of immediate judgment within the parable? Well, look at the last line in verse 31, where Abraham tells the rich man: "If they do not hear Moses and the Prophets, neither will they be convinced if someone should rise from the dead." This concluded the message Jesus warned the Pharisees, and it was proven in real life—Lazarus of Bethany died and was raised to life, but the Judean leaders, instead of believing, they sought to kill not only Jesus, but also Lazarus as a means of erasing the evidence. And yes, this is why Jesus named the poor beggar "Lazarus" in the parable.

So now that the moral of the story is made clear, hopefully it's clear why Jesus employs immediate judgment when telling the parable. In verses 27–28, the rich man says to Abraham, "Then I beg you, father, to send him to my father's house—for I have five brothers—so that he may warn them, lest they also come into this place of torment." So the rich man still has brothers alive on the Earth, and after his statement and another follow-up, Abraham concludes in verse 31 as I highlighted in the subsection right above. In order for the final point to be articulated, the rich man's brothers must still be alive on the Earth, which means that the rich man faces judgment immediately after death. Jesus cannot articulate the message of Luke 16:31 if the rich man slept in the grave until Final Judgment, because by then, no one, such as the rich man's brothers, will still be alive on the Earth. And due to how symbolic Jesus both subtly and boldly referenced the intended allegories, especially with the place of torment being "Hades," his audience would've clearly understood that the immediate judgment factor in the tale was not to be understood as a concept in the real world literally. If someone was trying to convince you to improve home security and decided to tell you the story of the three little pigs, obviously you wouldn't believe that wolves can blow down houses, nor that pigs can even build such shelter, etc.

Hopefully you grasp the substance of my points, NishantXavier. If I'm not sufficiently concise, I can elaborate further. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Monday, 11:08, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

Hi LT. Yes, I understood your point. Unfortunately, you are trying to explain away the clear Biblical Evidence that Souls exist in the afterlife and go to Heaven or Hell. If it wasn't so, Jesus Christ would never have said that. He could have said what He wanted to say about the Pharisees without that. For me, it is very clear Jesus Christ teaches Souls survive the death of the body and go to Heaven or Hell accordingly as whether they died in the Grace and Love of God, or in deadly/unrepented sin which sends to Hell. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:37, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Sigh, I just explained (and to reiterate in a briefer summary) that the only reason Jesus employed immediate judgment within the parable was because of its necessity to fit within the larger plot and moral of the story. The fact that He referred to the conscious place of torment as "Hades" clearly indicated that the notion of the lost immediately judged after death is simply fictitious. And elsewhere in the Bible, it's stated over and over again that souls sleep in the the grave (Sheol); see John 11:11–15 for an obvious example.

If you take the immediate judgment aspect of the parable to correspond literally to real life, consider the corollaries. Can the souls in a temporary heaven and temporary hell actually communicate with one another? (in the parable, Abraham in paradise could talk to the rich man in Hades) How can the redeemed in a temporary heaven have any comfort if they have unsaved loves ones in the temporary hell? If the wicked in the temporary hell start cursing at those in the temporary heaven because intercommunication is possible, do the souls in paradise need a mute button? etc. etc. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Tuesday, 19:15, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

If hell, death, and the grave ain't that bad, why bother repenting? Think of the fun you're giving up. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:40, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

All hell is eternal separation from the love of God. Period. It's not a place of flames and pitchforks. It is the conscious knowledge that there is no way back. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:43, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

[EC] Oh great, you again. The choice is either eternal life or perishing. (John 3:16, Romans 6:23) God isn't going to immortalize unrepentant sinners, and destruction will ultimately be a demonstration of His tremendous mercy and justice by ending the self-imposed sufferings of the wicked.

“	But the wicked will perish; the enemies of the LORD are like the glory of the pastures; they vanish—like smoke they vanish away.	”
—Psalm 37:20

The concept of eternal conscious torment in hellfire was rejected by the Ante-Nicene Fathers and instead propagated amongst later perverters who, motivated by their anti-Jewish bigotry, incorporated silly Mithraist nonsense into Christian theology. Also, if your only pitch towards the spiritually lost is fearmongering ("you need to repent or God will torment you for literally forever!"), you are not preaching a gospel of love and are slandering the name of God by portraying Him as a sadist. And that's not even mentioning that you fail to understand the message God articulated abundantly clear: both soul and body are destroyed in hellfire. (Matt. 10:28) —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Wednesday, 00:51, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

We've been over this before: the eternal torment is living outside the love of God. If you think it's such a good option, go ahead and chose it. Don't repent. Live in sin, under the law. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 07:15, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

Given your continuous unrepentant vicious slanders against me in the past few months, it would appear that you qualify most for "likely under the law." Anyways... yes, we've been over this before: if you believe in eternal torment, you believe in Mithriast fantasies rather than the biblical truth that's so plain in the Scriptures. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Wednesday, 10:33, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned

By my words I am under grace, not under law; by your words ye are under law.

restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Thank God it's only advice and not a command. I believe in tuff love. I'm like the Good Samaritan and not the Pharisee who just passed by and didn't want to get involved. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:05, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, and you just repeated it one more - you don't need to repent cause hell ain't that bad. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:15, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

Clearly you don't pay attention, do you? Oh, and you're like the good Samaritan? AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- oh, my. Remember that time you cursed profanities at me in one of my depressive states? So much for being a "good Samaritan," you Pharisaic Robscist. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Wednesday, 15:33, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

Yah, that's kinda what hell is like - people cursing profanities in your face for all eternity when you wake up and realize there is no soul sleep. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:52, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

To be born again is to be resurrected to life. The resurrection is not something that occurs after death of the flesh. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:53, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

No, I don't agree. That many will remain unbelievers even after Lazarus (not to mention Christ) rises from the dead is true, but Christ had no need to tell us what would in fact be an elaborate deception (on your view) to make that point. The only reason He tells us that Souls exist and go to Heaven or Hell is because they in fact do. Why have you adopted the SDA view when there's a wealth of Biblical Evidence against it? You are just beginning to read the Word of God. I would suggest studying seriously for at least another 5 to 10 years (perhaps at Seminary level, like I have) before coming to firm conclusions. I've shown many passages that show the departed are alive and at rest in Heaven, not "dead" and unconscious. "now he is comforted and you are tormented" (Luk 16:25).

As for why the departed are sometimes said to sleep in Christ, that is because they are at rest in Christ, like the girl of whom Jesus Christ said, "She is not dead but sleeping". Here being dead is contrasted to a pleasant restful sleep.

As for your questions, yes, God can make it possible for someone in Hell to speak to someone in Heaven. Does not mean it happens all the time, but it can happen when God allows it and for as long as He does allow it. That's all. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 23:56, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

"He tells us that Souls exist and go to Heaven or Hell" - note that the SDA view is basically that there are no such things as souls or spirits, and when you die, you remain in the grave or stay dead. In that much, it is almost atheistic or materialistic. That is not Apostolic and historic Christian teaching, nor even Judeo-Christian teaching in the period before Christ's Birth. It therefore takes away much of the incentive to do great things for the Lord, in the hope of an immediate reward, such as Martyrs have. See this verse in St. Paul: We "prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." (2 Cor 5:8). Here, the Apostle teaches that to be away from the body is to be at home with the Lord. This shows that Souls exist, survive the death of the body, and go to be at home with the Lord when the body dies, just as traditional Christianity, and indeed traditional Judeo-Christianity (apart from the heretical Sadducees) always taught. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:05, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

If you read the Bible in a straightforward manner without the man-made insertion that souls are judged immediately after death, it should be clear that death functions as a sleep, which is what the Bible says over and over. Also, your insinuation of Adventists is incorrect. SDAs believe that the human being is the soul, a combination of the dust of the ground and the breath of life. IOWs, death is simply the separation of the spirit/breath from the earthly body. (Ecc. 12:7) Upon death, what immediately ascends to Heaven is the breath of life as the body, unable to function without it, decays. Hence, the soul, dead though awaiting resurrection, essentially "sleeps in the grave."

John 11:11–15 should be self-explanatory. Jesus, knowing that earthly death is nothing more than a sleep because the dead will be resurrected, colloquially refers to Lazarus's passing as such, though His disciples initially don't understand the parallel, thinking that He was talking of sleep in a normal sense of rest. The fact that Jesus would make this open comparison is clear that death is a sleep. Hopefully this isn't difficult to understand.

2 Cor. 5:8 is not a solid indication of immediate judgment. Paul simply could be (and likely is) stating that one, in a spiritual sense, ought to abide in their lives by the guidance of the Spirit and not the dictates of the bodily flesh.

Atheistic/materialistic and not the apostolic teaching? Sigh, the Ante-Nicene Fathers were conditionalists; for more information, see here. The concept of the inherently immortal soul is a relic of pagan Mithraism. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Wednesday, 00:28, May 10, 2023 (EDT)

That's a very good review. if I may intrude for a moment to include one bit of information which may help illuminate things.

In Orthodox Judaism, from the age of the Pharisees til today, there has been a debate whether or not there even is an afterlife beyond sheol or the grave. Denying the afterlife is not doctrinal, it's just a debate. In this passage Jesus makes clear which side of the debate he comes down on.

Now the debate surrounds the promises made to Abraham, are they just for this life? Jesus says yes indeed there is an afterlife; on the other extreme you have the view of Hitler in Mein Kampf (he didn't invent it, there were many before him) that the Jews, with their fictitious Jehovah whom they invented, gave license to the Jewish people to economically exploit gentiles in this life without conscience, cause there is no final judgement and/or afterlife. That's the only flaw I see in the above essay, here: "find themselves on the same side as Abraham (whom they considered their "Father") in the age to come." Many did not then, nor today, believe there is "an age to come."

How this relates to SDA: SDA's teachings on the law of the Sabbath and soul sleep are essentially resurrected Pharisaism by a people to whom God did not even make the Abrahamic Covenant with. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:04, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

In Jesus's day, neither the teaching nor belief in an afterlife was universal. That's why, the New Testament writers tell us, Jesus adopted the pagan term "hades", cause no word existed in the OT lexicon. The Book of Job can be helpful in shedding light on the parameters of the debate; look at all the refences to sheol, then in the conclusion of the book, God restores double the number of all the livestock Job lost, but only an equal number of children (because the souls of his first group of children are eternal). The Pharisees of Jesus' day allowed there to be dissension and debate on the meaning of this passage without advocating a doctrine one way or the other. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:21, May 8, 2023 (EDT)

One more note about the Book of Job: it predates Moses and Torah, and various tellings of story exist in several ancient cultures, including Persian. It hints at an afterlife in its final chapter. It is part of the "received text" of Moses and the early chroniclers. Like Hebrews, its authorship is unknown. Its divine origins were recognized as universal and predates the Abrahamic Covenant. Genesis, or the Book of Origins, is not the "first" or oldest book of the bible. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 00:14, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Christ's resurrection proved two things: (1) that there was indeed an afterlife; (2) that Jesus was God. (Pharisees rejected both).

The concept of "Abraham's bosom" (the idea of being a "bosom buddy" or standing with someone) was a concept developed by some teachers of the law to placate followers who believed in an afterlife. It was not universally accepted or taught as doctrine. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 04:00, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

2 Maccabees 12:13-16 clearly shows the Saints in Heaven (even OT Saints like Abraham, Jeremiah, Onias etc) are alive and pray for us

2 Macc 12:13 "After this there appeared also another man, admirable for age, and glory, and environed with great beauty and majesty:

14 Then Onias answering, said: This is a lover of his brethren, and of the people of Israel: this is he that prayeth much for the people, and for all the holy city, Jeremias the prophet of God.

15 Whereupon Jeremias stretched forth his right hand, and gave to Judas a sword of gold, saying:

16 Take this holy sword a gift from God, wherewith thou shalt overthrow the adversaries of my people Israel."

From: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Maccabees+15%3A13-16&version=DRA

The Feast of the Dedication (Jn 10:22) mentioned in the Gospel of St. John is straight from the Book of Maccabees. As mentioned elsewhere, Maccabees was in the Canon for over a 1000 years before Mr. Martin Luther took it out: "It was also determined that besides the Canonical Scriptures nothing be read in the Church under the title of divine Scriptures. The Canonical Scriptures are these: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, Joshua the son of Nun, Judges, Ruth, four books of Kings, 3 two books of Paraleipomena, 4 Job, the Psalter, five books of Solomon, 5 the books of the twelve prophets, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezechiel, Daniel, Tobit, Judith, Esther, two books of Esdras, 6 two books of the Maccabees." (3rd Council of Carthage, 397 A.D.). https://www.bible-researcher.com/carthage.html

Yes, the Sadducees and others heretically denied the Resurrection and that the Saints in Heaven are alive, but the Bible refutes both.

See Mark 12: "26But concerning the dead rising, have you not read about the burning bush in the Book of Moses, how God told him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? 27He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!”

The Sadducees accepted only the Pentateuch, hence Christ refuted them from those Books itself. God, the God of Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and all His Saints, is the God of the Living. This means that Abraham and Isaac and Jacob, and all the Saints, are living in Heaven, not dead. To say otherwise is to have become a Sadducee, whereas Christ and the Bible refutes them. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:33, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

See also: "(The Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, and that there are neither angels nor spirits, but the Pharisees believe all these things.)" (Acts 23:8) where Luke explains the false beliefs of the Sadducees. By "spirits" here is meant Souls in Heaven.

Compare: "To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect" (Heb 12:23) NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:35, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Patriarch Bartholomew: [Orthodox] Re-Union with Roman Catholics is "inevitable"

When I said many years ago, here on Conservapedia, that Catholic and Orthodox Christians, by the Grace of God, will be re-united in our lifetimes, hardly anyone believed me. Even those who thought it would be nice if that happened were skeptical. Yet, it now comes to light that Patriarch Bartholomew, the leader of the Orthodox Church, thinks so also! This is wonderful. Hopefully, the Russia-Ukraine War ends soon, and the Russian Orthodox follow. And then, perhaps, Anglicans will be next.

After that, the other Christian churches and communities. Here's the source:

"On November 12, Patriarch Bartholomew participated in the Vespers service at the Catholic Abbey of Our Lady of St. Rémy in Rochefort, Belgium, together with Archimandrite Alexios, the abbot of Xenophontos Monastery, and Hieromonk Theophilos of Pantocrator Monastery, both on Mt. Athos.

According to a new report from the Union of Orthodox Journalists, during his trip to Mt. Athos the previous month, Pat. Bartholomew attempted to convince several Athonite abbots and monks that there are no dogmatic differences between Orthodoxy and Catholicism, and that reunion with the Catholic church is inevitable." https://orthochristian.com/125924.html

Hallelujah!!! "That they all may be One" (cf. Jn 17:20-22)". As I wrote at the time: "A Third Nicene Council could have a great legacy upon the whole world as visibly demonstrating the Unity of Christendom, something Jesus Christ said would serve as a calling to non-Christians to turn to Him. "20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on Me through their word; 21 That they all may be One; as Thou, Father, art in Me, and I in Thee, that they also may be One in Us: that the world may believe that Thou hast sent Me. 22And the glory which thou gavest Me I have given them; that they may be One, even as We are One:" (Jn 17:20-22, KJV). NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:58, May 9, 2023 (EDT)

Please check your email

—LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Friday, 19:41, May 19, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. 19:50, May 19, 2023 (EDT)

Just curious, did you ever receive my email(s)? Hopefully they weren't marked as spam by Gmail at some point. —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Sunday, 21:35, May 20, 2023 (EDT)

I think I didn't get it, can you resend it? Or you can drop me a ping on whatsapp through my website, ReasonstobeChristian.com. You can go to the contact page and it will direct you there. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:50, May 26, 2023 (EDT)

I resent another email from my other account (which I check much more frequently). —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Friday, 18:59, May 26, 2023 (EDT)

Got it.

Beautiful Christian music

Beautiful Christian music: Ethiopian Christian music.

If you liked that song, you might like these too: Christian songs. Conservative (talk) 23:35, May 19, 2023 (EDT)

Watched it. Was good. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:47, May 26, 2023 (EDT)

I added a number of new songs to the above playlist. I think that you will like them. Conservative (talk) 02:32, May 27, 2023 (EDT)

I added some other additional songs. The playlist Ethiopian Christian music now has over 50 songs. :)

In 2024, I plan on doing some international travel. Maybe later down the pike, I will visit Africa. I have been to Ethiopian restaurants and the food is very good. I also had a Mali housemate and he taught me to cook a tasty West African food called Zamen. By the way, I added some additional material to the essay: [[Essay: Darth Dietician: RationalWikians, I find your lack of trust in nutritional science disturbing.|Darth Dietician: RationalWikians, I find your lack of trust in nutritional science disturbing.]]. :)

Something you may like

I just created this userbox template. :) —LT ^{(Matthew 26:52)} Friday, 15:41, May 26, 2023 (EDT)

Lol. Looks good. Might borrow it. :D) NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:49, May 26, 2023 (EDT)

The Principle of Contingent Causation proves Almighty God: a Thomistic approach. New Article on my site

https://reasonstobechristian.com/f/the-principle-of-contingent-causation-proves-almighty-god

"The Principle of Contingent Causation proves Almighty God. 12 June 2023|13. Eternal Father. If God did not exist, nothing would exist. See below. If God did not exist, nothing would exist. See below.

Dear Friends, you yourself may know for sure – for e.g. based on your internal experience of Him, or because you have a God-Given Conscience - there is a God. But you may wonder, how do I help convince my Atheist friends about this? And this is something that should concern not only Christian devotees, but also Hindu devotees, Muslim devotees - all of us who love God and sincerely seek His Truth. Why? Because if a person who thus far has been irreligious or Atheistic understands the Truh that God Almighty exists and that He loves us, indeed that He is Pure Love, they will love Him, be devoted to Him, and thus their chances of Heaven are greatly increased. Thus, we show Love to them when we strive to convince our non-theistic friends about the Truth of Theism, which is called Evangelism. Of course, Christian Theism would go further, for e.g. the historical evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and how that proves Christ's Divinity, but this is the foundation.

Here is a simple syllogism every believer/devotee of God the Father Almighty might use: (inspired by Saint Thomas Aquinas, so credit to him. Pray for us, Brilliant Saint).

Logical Proof I of God's Nature and Attributes: From Contingency and Necessity: Now, the first thing that occurs to any being that begins to exist, after it is conscious of its existence, and reflects on it, is that it itself is a contingent being, meaning (1) it could possibly not exist, and (2) it will one day cease to exist. These are hallmarks of contingent beings. Examples include you, me, our parents, trees, animals, the Universe etc.

If, like St. Thomas, we are able to use our God-given minds to reflect one step further, we can logically deduce: (1) if every being in existence existed contingently (i.e. you depend on you parents, they on theirs and so on), then we are faced with a series that never ends. But this is impossible because it leads to an absurdity, for if the series never ended, then we would never have gotten to the present moment in the first place. Hence, it must be true that (2) not every being in existence exists contingently, but the chain of contingent causation we observe and clearly deduce in nature must end with a existence of a Non-Contingent Being.

[This is the classic old "which came first: the chicken or the egg" dilemma. This is a dilemma because eggs come from chickens, whereas chickens also come from eggs! Therefore, neither contingent eggs nor contingent chickens can be the explanation as to why either exist in the first place. The true explanation is given by the Prophet Moses in Genesis.]

But we will come to that: notice that we proved above, that a Non-Contingent Being exists. In other words, some Supreme Being exists non-contingently, i.e. necessarily, without beginning or end, without ever coming in to existence or going out of existence, eternally.

In other words, we have just proven the existence of a Supreme and Eternal Being, God!

Here is how Saint Thomas formulates it: "The third way is taken from possibility and necessity, and runs thus. We find in nature things that are possible to be and not to be, since they are found to be generated, and to corrupt, and consequently, they are possible to be and not to be. But it is impossible for these always to exist, for that which is possible not to be at some time is not. Therefore, if everything is possible not to be, then at one time there could have been nothing in existence. Now if this were true, even now there would be nothing in existence, because that which does not exist only begins to exist by something already existing. Therefore, if at one time nothing was in existence, it would have been impossible for anything to have begun to exist; and thus even now nothing would be in existence — which is absurd. Therefore, not all beings are merely possible, but there must exist something the existence of which is necessary."

Let's formulate the argument in modern language for today's readers:

(1) Every being in existence could not possibly exist contingently, otherwise we are faced with many absurdities, including that of a series that never ends, as well as the possibility that at one time nothing at all existed. But if nothing at all ever existed, even now nothing would exist, because nothing has no creative power. Ex Nihil, Nihil Fit. Out of nothing, nothing comes. Therefore, we can conclude for certain that One Being exists necessarily.

(2) Now, if One Being exists necessarily, we can then proceed to deduce several properties of this Powerful Being. (N.B. St. Thomas, in the interests of completeness, proceeds to refute many possible objections, including those most modern readers probably would not make. I think it's fair to straightforwardly go into these attributes/qualities of the Almighty).

First Property of God: God exists eternally and not temporarily, for He is Necessary, not Contingent: The proof of this is very evident. If God existed temporally, then at one time (either before or after Him), He would not exist. And this is contrary to the Nature of His Necessary Existence, which we proved above. Therefore, God as the Necessary Being exists eternally, i.e. without beginning and without possible end. This already resembles the God of traditional revelation. And we have come thus far by pure logic, without appealing to the Bible or revealed texts.

Second Property of God: God's Power is not limited (for such contingencies would be contrary to the Nature of His Necessity) but unlimited, in other words, God is Almighty and All-Knowing, for otherwise there would be contingencies in His Being. Now, it is evident that a Being that could cause all other beings ultimately to exist (by setting in motion the chain of causation) has at least some Power and Knowledge. The question we are asking is, does He have complete Power and complete Knowledge, or only partial?

The answer: if God had limited Power, but one that could conceivably increase (or decrease), it would clearly follow that there were contingencies in His Being, like in yours or mine. You or I, being contingent beings, can always grow stronger or more knowledgeable, but this is impossible in a Necessarily Existent Being. Therefore, there being no contingencies in God admitting of any possible increase in His perfections, and granting that there is at least some power and knowledge in God (for the reason mentioned earlier), it clearly follows that God is unlimited in Power and Knowledge, without possible increase." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:15, June 12, 2023 (EDT)

Replied to your post

I responded to your post to me at: https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative/mail#Hi_Conservative Conservative (talk) 13:45, June 26, 2023 (EDT)

Yup, sure. Saw it and responded. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:59, June 26, 2023 (EDT)

Please comment on this thread

Please comment on this thread: https://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Conservapedia_is_not_RobSpedia._RobS_is_acting_incivilly_and_various_editors_have_commented_on_this_matter.

Thank you for all your efforts at Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 14:18, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Conservapedia is not a mobocracy. Discussion moved to Conservapedia:User_complaints. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:04, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

I spoke to the boss about the main page talk dissension and infighting

I spoke to Andy about the main page talk dissension and infighting.

Andy mentioned one of the root causes. He said that some editors are ignoring the 90/10 rule.

I think Andy is correct about this matter.

What is the 90/10 rule?

The 90/10 rule is designed to encourage productive edits to our encyclopedia articles, essays and debates (see also: [https://conservapedia.com/Category:Essays Conservapedia essays] and Conservapedia debates). The purpose of the 90/10 rule is to discourage unproductive editing such as belligerent editing and trolling at Conservapedia (Please see: Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks and Conservapedia:Inappropriate/trolling behavior - Examples).

The 90/10 rule discourages users from spending 90% of their time complaining, carping, cutting people down and forming cabals at Conservapedia - and only 10% actively helping to craft good encyclopedia articles/essays and participate in Conservapedia debates. Useful editing means making worthwhile edits and includes collaborative efforts to improve articles/essays on talk pages. The rule is applied to a person's editing activitity as a whole and not smaller periods of editing. For example, if users have a history of productive editing and they are editing talk pages to improve articles/essays, participate in debates or make various improvements to Conservapedia, the 90/10 rule will not be applied to them. The 90/10 rule is only applied to disruptive editors.

Conservapedia encourages collaboration to improve articles, essays and debates. Conservative (talk) 20:16, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, my apologies. User:Conservative massively screwed up today. And when he invited you to join a conspiracy against another user, I am proud of the way you handled it and your excellent judgement. Kudos. Just be wary of getting involved in another harebrained scheme of user:Conservative, or any other editor. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:13, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

For the record, if I had my druthers, I'd do away with the 90/10 Rule. Cons conspiracy today resulted in having to instruct you on the 90/10 Rule. I think it means something like, you have to make one Mainspace article edit for every 9 Talk page edits, or something like that. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:18, June 27, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, my apologies again. In the Edit War User:Cons initiated yesterday on Talk:Main Page, some material was lost. Some of your material however I believe may be recoverable from https://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Main_Page/Archive_index , Archives 241 and 242. If you want, you could recover what you need from the Archive and re-paste it to the Community Portal. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 11:09, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

It's fine. Not necessary. Thanks. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:33, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Evangelization of England

I'm gathering sources, both ancient and modern, to write the story of how Christianity came to England, i.e. how England became a part of Christendom, or how Jesus Christ came to be recognized as King of kings in England. Could be part of a broader series on Evangelization of Europe, i.e. how Europe became Christian in the first place. St. Bede the Venerable's Ecclesiastical History of the English People, https://www.gutenberg.org/files/38326/38326-h/38326-h.html#toc11 is one of many sources to consult. Need to gather several more as well. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:56, June 28, 2023 (EDT)

Come to think of it, a series on the Entire Evangelization of Europe would be worthwhile. I would begin with (1) England, (2) France, (3) Germany, (4) Ireland. But many more come to mind, like (5) Hungary (6) Sweden (7) Denmark, (8) Norway, and many others. Let's see. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:43, June 29, 2023 (EDT)

Read these resources on Russia and China. This latest resource on Russia really shows how much less influential Russia will be in the future

Read these resources on Russia and China. This latest resource really shows how less influential Russia will be in the future: [[Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future|Why I am not bullish on Russia's future]] and [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power|Skepticism about China remaining a global power]] .

The most recent information I looked at concerning Russia at Updates on Russian Demographics really shows how much less influential Russia will be in the future.

It's rather comical that someone believes that Russia will be a very influential country for 30 years. I suspect that the USA will rev up its oil and gas production in the coming years and nuclear power will grow in the coming years in Europe/USA (The greens will be far less influential in European politics). The recent rebellion in Russia shows what a clown show Russian politics is. Conservative (talk) 12:27, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

A duh, Russia controls over 80% of global uranium supplies for nuclear power, duh. Take this caveat on any sources on geopolitcs supplied by "someone". RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:28, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

I see you still find Russia's upcoming demographic winter to be a bitter pill to swallow. Conservative (talk) 13:31, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

No. I am a realist. And I don't form my views from Hollywood movies and public-school curriculums. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 13:37, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Create the article Russian war atrocities in Ukraine, Mr. Realist. Conservative (talk) 13:43, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Create the article American war atrocities in the Global War on Terror.

Create the article Ukrainian Nazi atrocities in Donbass with American funding, 2014-2023 and prove you have balanced views and are not a Russophobic bigot spreading Nazi propaganda, RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:05, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

I am for cutting military aid to Ukraine ASAP. In the past, I said I was for cutting USA military spending. And in the past, you balked when said the USA should cut its military budget which would help reduce its government spending in order to work on balancing the budget. Conservative (talk) 15:04, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Go pesterfest someone else, somewhere else, please. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:20, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Well, I think Russian future will only be bad if the current policy of trying to invade other countries is continued. If Putin himself has a change of heart, or if there is a change of leadership, then there's always hope for a brighter Russian future. One thing I commend the Russian Orthodox Church for is wanting to ban abortion; if they do that, most of their demographic problems will be solved; unfortunately, there's no appetite for that yet among the Russian people as a whole, and Putin himself ruled it out. I agree with Italian Pro-Life Catholic PM Giorgia Meloni and other Pro-Life European Leaders who were quite open to working with Russia until relatively recently; when the Russian bear unfortunately relapsed to old Soviet tricks like invading its neighboring nations, then she condemned the invasion and now supports Ukraine's Self-Defense. Much will depend imho on what Putin learns from this invasion and tries to prevent in future. The same goes for Xi and other Dictators thinking of launching alleged "special military operations" of their own. If Xi learns his lesson not to invade, good. If not, imho, the world will be 100 times tougher on China than on Russia, and rightly so, given complicity in covid, persecution of Uyghurs, not to mention Christians etc. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:54, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

There is no comparison between China reclaiming its own territory from foreign influence and occupation, and Russia's demilitarization and denazification operation. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:04, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Roughly 50 Countries in Europe - the more I learn, the more amazing it is to me how deep Europe's Christian History is, and how it was Missionaries - Bishops, Priests, Monks, Nuns, sometimes often one single Saint like a Saint Patrick - who helped whole Nations become and remain Christian for nearly 1500 years

Started https://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Evangelization_of_Europe Category. Done (1) England and (2) Ireland so far, and only briefly. Have to do much more, including (3) France, (4) Germany, (5) Poland (6) Hungary etc. Will get to (7) Russia and St. Vladimir soon. Have to do a lot of re-reading and research myself before that. I recall the gist of most events, but need to recheck some sources for details and exact specifics and times etc. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:01, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

what do you know about St. Benedict the Apostle to the Frisians? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:05, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Too little, I'm sure! Can't remember all the names and histories easily. Have some sources I can consult, though. I'm more acquainted with St. Boniface, the Apostle to the Germans. Will read up on St. Benedict, Apostle to the Frisians, though, now that you've mentioned him. Thanks. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:10, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Someone who attended a seminary named after Benedict told me the Frisian cannibalized and ate him. I never had the time to verify the information (Incidentally, Frisian is the continental European language closest to English). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:22, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Giorgia Melon, Italian Pro-Life Catholic PM

The Conservapedia article on her rightly notes: "In September 2022, Meloni, who is fluent in English, went viral in a post on twitter (that now has over 20 million views) of a speech she gave against the attack on traditional values.[4] ...

Social issues Meloni is solidly conservative on social issues, ranging from opposing abortion, same-sex marriages, and homosexuality in general. She opposed a phony "anti-homophobia" law.

In March 2018, Meloni objected to propaganda by the Walt Disney Company in promoting a gay couple in its musical Frozen II, by saying "Enough! We are sick of it! Take your hands off the children."[5]

In 2022 Meloni spoke at the CPAC conservative annual conservative conference in the United States.[6]"

Absolutely. She's 100% Solid on all of those. And she was also Pro-Russia till recently; now, however, she's supporting Ukraine's Self-Defense. See, this is Common Sense Conservatism. You do all you can to spread Conservative Values, but also support national self-defense of any invaded nation, particularly one NATO said would one day be a NATO member. NATO can't abandon Ukraine and look the other way now, or the Alliance would have zero credibility, which would be bad for its future. The UK ad US are also bound to help under the Budapest Memorandum, which Putin's Kremlin violated. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:14, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

She supports European fascism and the NATO Nazis in Ukraine. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:24, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

As to the Budapest Memorandum, you need to consider its historical precedent.

When Poland was resurrected on the map after 125 years in 1919, like the Budapest Memorandum, the Treaty of Versailles granted security guarantees to Poland. Like the Budapest Memorandum after 20 years, when Germany and the Soviet Union violated the treaty with the 1939 invasions of Poland, Britain and France did nothing. This is the period of the so-called "Phony War" or "Sitzkrieg". Six months later when France and Britain finally did attack Germany to get to Poland, it resulted in the defeat of France in 44 days and the Vichy regime becoming a German ally. Britain fought on, but ultimately the British Empire folded up shop in 1947. Britain lost its Empire as result of WWII. So realistically, it's a bit of a stretch to say Britain was a "victor". RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:33, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Simply said, both Britan and France lost their Empires trying to enforce Polish security guarantees, and Poland did not emerge as a "democracy". So it is really difficult to say that either France or Great Britain "won" World War II. Whereas Soviet Communism was enhanced, largely due to British and American efforts. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 15:36, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

Well, what happened in WW2 is not the issue here. The issue is (1) Russia committed not to attack or threaten aggression against Ukraine, (2) it blatantly violated that commitment under Putin. (3) the UK and US also committed to help defend Ukraine (4) and, although albeit slowly, they are at least trying to keep that commitment now.

We probably aren't going to agree on this issue, Rob. But to me it's blatantly clear Putin's aggression is (1) illegal under international law and memorandums like the BM above, (2) immoral and unjust, and (3) bad for Russia itself. The sooner Putin and his advisors can see that, the better for everyone. If they don't, too bad. But they can if they want to. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:38, June 30, 2023 (EDT)

So, when are the US & UK going to honor their commitment to send their boys to die? as France and Great Britain did in 1939? Why the double standard? Both parties broke their commitments, and the US & UK cowards stand behind their Ukrainian proxies as cannon fodder. I'm sure neither the Russians nor Ukrainians will ever forget these lies and deception.

Just sending arms was not part of the deal. When Russia invaded, it full well knew it would face American boys on the battlefield. But given their experience with Americans, they gambled correctly that the Americans were liars and cowards. And they guessed correctly. So far America's Wunderwaffen haven't done diddly squat, so by the time American boys get sent in with the same weapons, the same idiot military planners, and the same political geniuses behind them, good luck. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:04, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine's biggest mistake was trusting the US & UK. It's just the latest installment chapter in what Eastern Europeans call the Western betrayal. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:06, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

"Western betrayal is a popular term in many Central European nations (including Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania and the Baltic States) which refers to the foreign policy of several Western countries during the period from the Treaty of Versailles in 1919 through World War II and to the Cold War, as rooted in hypocrisy and betrayal.

"The "betrayal" refers to the fact that the western Allies —in spite of having promoted democracy and self-determination, signing pacts and forming military alliances during World War I —nonetheless betrayed their Central European allies by abandoning these pacts (for example giving Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany). After World War II, Western powers did nothing to prevent these states from falling under the influence of communism and the Soviet Union (Eastern bloc), the nemesis of the capitalist bloc led by the United States during the Cold War."

Deja vu. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:16, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

Then we have breaches of good faith - the Russians signed the deal under the pretext that NATO would not expand "one inch" to the east beyond East Germany's border. So that broken commitment nullified any earlier understandings.

Thwere's a simple solution to all this: kick Poland, Romania, Finland, Czechia, Slovakia, and Hungary out of NATO (i.e. return to the 1991 borders), and Russia will be happy to return to the 1991 borders. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 21:33, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

As Prez. Zelensky said, if Ukraine does not prevail, Russia will go into Poland and the Baltics, and then the US will be contractually bound/obliged/compelled to send its own troops into battle. Prez. Zelensky said Ukraine is fighting to ensure that that does not happen, so it is in America's own best interest to support Ukraine and ensure it prevails. Btw, there are a few International Fighters on the Ground in Ukraine, on a purely voluntary basis. Yes, I agree Eastern European Countries feel some in the West betrayed them, by not taking the threat of Soviet Communism seriously, however their solutions (the solutions of those same Eastern European Countries) are radically different from yours. They want a strong and united NATO and are pushing for more members to seriously fulfil their 2% GDP Obligation.

Kaja Kallas of Estonia, a Tiny European Country that knows well the full horrors of Soviet Communism (even in so-called Peacetime) is a stellar example: "Kaja Kallas is the prime minister of Estonia.

Sixteen months of war in Ukraine have revealed strategic opportunities and challenges for transatlantic security and European defense. With the European Council and NATO’s Summit in Vilnius lying just ahead, the time to lift our defense up to match the demands of the new security reality is now — because later may be too late.

Prompted by Estonia, the European Union recently decided to provide a million artillery rounds to Ukraine by March 2024. This is highly important assistance for Ukraine and, simultaneously, an incremental step toward ramping up the European defense industry’s output, and a demonstration of where common resolve and action can take us." https://www.politico.eu/article/europe-nato-defense-spending-ammunition-combat-effective/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:38, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Zelensky's full of bull. Russia doesn't have the manpower, doesn't need anymore territories or borders to defend, or any more natural resource. Pure propaganda BS. Simple logic that you can figure out for yourself, rather than being spoon fed propaganda tripe. It is basically hate speech and lies.

Ask yourself, "Why does the West need censorship if truth, justice, and God is on our side?" RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:20, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Russia is not Communist. And the more you fall into using those pre-1991 idioms to criticize the Russian Federation, the more you expose yourself to be being accused of being a Nazi and holding Nazi views.

Think about it for one minute: Are you actually saying the Ronal Reagan and Margaret Thatcher did not defeat Communism? That Communism is still here and alive, and dominates Russia? Is all the history we've been taught lies? Is the Cold War really over? Was Hitler right in saying "All we need to do is kick in the front door, and the whole rotten structure will come down?" What really is the difference between NATO and the Anti-Comintern Pact?

I warn you, you have been indoctrinated with Anti-Russian hate speech, by anti-Russian bigots in the Polish and Baltic States governments. And NATO. From the Russian perspective, that makes you a Nazi speaking Nazi lies. The Russians were the Nazis' biggest victims. The last people who got into a hot war in Russia were the Nazis. Do you really want your name and yourself tied to the legacy of Nazism? cause Russia will not lose this war. And you will be nuked first before they lose.

Then you need to analyze the propaganda BS that says, "Putin is a madman. But he's not crazy to start a nuclear war." RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:27, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, ranting via accusations of hate speech is exactly what intolerant liberals/leftists do. And telling a very polite Indian man who is a devout Catholic the following: "the more you expose yourself to be being accused of being a Nazi and holding Nazi views" is a complete farce. Godwin's law strikes again. And unfortunately, you lack sufficient self-awareness to realize how much you are embarrassing yourself.

Throughout my life, I have come across many people from India. They are unfailingly polite. RobS, you could learn a few things from Nishant when it comes to politeness. Conservative (talk) 10:10, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

No. I'm just using the common MSM idioms that nerds like you bite on. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 02:04, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

Russia is facing a bleak future. Russia has the highest abortion rate in the world. And Russia banning abortions doesn't seem likely

Russia has the highest abortion rate in the world.[4]

Russia is facing a very bleak future due to its impending demographic winter:

• Demographics of the Orthodox Christain world by Peter Zeihan
• Russia's Demographic Crisis Explained - TLDR News
• Updates on Russian Demographics
• Russia’s Demographic Crisis is Getting Worse
• (Russia is DONE) Russia's Catastrophic Demographics Collapse is Here.
• Russia Facing Population Disaster - Demographic Crisis, Employee Shortages & Economic Crisis

"Patriarch Kirill demanded from the Federation Council to ban abortions under the mandatory health insurance system. A strict restriction on the procedure, in his opinion, must be introduced in private clinics, so as not to leave women with any alternative... In March last year, Vladimir Krupennikov, a State Duma deputy from the United Russia party, demanded a ban on "abortion propaganda." Colleagues-United Russia dissociated themselves from the performance of a member of the same party, emphasizing that this was only his personal initiative."[5]

Given that merely 1% of Russian Orthodox Russians attend church[6], it doesn't appear as if sufficiently strong pro-life laws will be passed. Conservative (talk) 20:52, July 1, 2023 (EDT)

Hi Cons. I know it's low, but other stats paint a different picture: "Just 6 percent of the population and 43 percent of believers go to church several times a month. According to Interior Ministry statistics, 4.3 million people across the country attended Easter services in 2019 – around 100,000 fewer than a year before." https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2019/05/29/russians-are-not-waiting-for-a-church-boom-a65792 And as you mentioned: "Patriarch Kirill demanded from the Federation Council to ban abortions under the mandatory health insurance system". That's good.

England also has a State Church (the Anglican Church), but the English pastors are not as Pro-Life as most of the Russian Orthodox Bishops. I think it's good that they are; they were slowly moving in the right direction on the Abortion issue; they should distribute Bibles more and encourage all the faithful to hear and read the Word of God, including God's Commandment not to kill, which also applies to Babies in the Womb. It's unfortunate what has happened. I hope, under a De Santis or Social Conservative US President, once Russia stops its invasion and goes back to its own territory, the US and Russia can work together one day, an East-West Alliance to promote Judeo-Christian Values. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:33, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for the additional data about Russia. As far as the UK, although I like much of the earlier cultural heritage of the UK (John Wesley, KJV Bible, Pilgrim's Progress, Magna Carta, etc.), unfortunately the UK appears to be headed for decline. Nigel Farage's recent inability to engage in banking in the UK is the latest symbol of the UK's decline. Conservative (talk) 09:32, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Yup. UK was good/strong on many cultural Christian issues till relatively recently. Unfortunately, some liberal/woke ideas etc now have prominence, and then there's also the problem of Evolution/Darwinism. Hopefully, significantly strong counter-cultural movements arise in time. That some people, even apart from those we might consider as devout Christians, like Rishi Sunak, J.K Rowling, and Boris Johnson as well, woke up to the Woke Agenda and said: "No, biological men are not women" is a starting point at least in seeing that some of the Brits are waking up to the Woke Agenda. Hopefully, a more decisive rejection of liberalism will follow in time. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 11:32, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

Info on Estonia's PM Kaja Kallas, a Strong Pro-Ukraine Eastern European PM, who knows/remembers the horrors of Soviet Communism

From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/06/26/estonia-prime-minister-ukraine-war-nato/

"Estonia’s 46-year-old prime minister, Kaja Kallas, has been dubbed the new Margaret Thatcher for her tough stance on Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. This week, Kallas spoke with The Post’s Lally Weymouth on the war and her thoughts on the upcoming NATO summit in Vilnius, Lithuania, where Ukraine’s potential membership will be discussed. Excerpts:

Weymouth: I am impressed by your passionate support for Ukraine. I wondered if you could explain to people in the West why you, the leader of a small Baltic country, find it so important to give so much military aid to Ukraine?

Kallas: We see in the events in Ukraine our own history unfolding — history that our grandmothers and grandfathers actually suffered. Therefore, it is our duty to spare the people of Ukraine from those atrocities that our own people went through. My own mother was deported to Siberia when she was 6 months old.

Your grandmother went with her?

My grandmother, great-grandmother and my mother were sent to Siberia, and my grandfather was sent to a prison camp. This is not a unique story. Every family in Estonia has a story like this. One-fifth of our population was either killed or deported to Siberia during the occupation by the Russians.

Do you see a solution to the Ukraine war?

If someone talks about Russia and Ukraine agreeing on a peace settlement and giving away some territory, I explain that after World War II, your side of the Iron Curtain had peace, which meant that you built up your countries and the prosperity of your peoples. On our side of the Iron Curtain, we had mass deportations, killings, and our culture and language were suppressed. So even if there is some kind of an agreement, without accountability it doesn’t mean that the human suffering will stop.

So there must be a withdrawal of Russian troops?

If the Russians do not go back to Russia, I feel it is very dangerous. We have to do everything to discredit the policy tool of (Russian) aggression. If you attack another country and you get some kind of peace treaty and you walk away with more territory than you had before, then aggression pays off. So all the would-be aggressors in the world are carefully taking notes — okay, I might lose some people, but I will have a bigger empire.

How do you think the war in Ukraine is going?

The Ukrainians are doing the counteroffensive and pushing back the Russians. I think that the war will end when the Russians realize that it was a mistake. That they can’t win in Ukraine. And why? Because the West is behind Ukraine, supporting them militarily. But also you can’t break the will of the Ukrainians. The Russians withdrew from Afghanistan when they realized it was a mistake, they couldn’t win there. What it takes is for us to keep the unity and to show that we are behind Ukraine. We are very grateful for the U.S. supporting Ukraine with vast amounts of military aid. In Estonia, we have done our best to do all we can. [Estonia is] the biggest supporter per GDP of Ukraine." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:42, July 2, 2023 (EDT)

You still are under the mistaken impression that Russian Federation security concerns (and NATO dismissal of them) has something to do with Soviet Communism. It doesn't. Unlike Estonia, the Russian Federation does not deny citizenship rights to people based upon national origin, ethnic identity, or language. Estonia does. Russia is democratic. Estonia is not. You are the victim of NATO and Western propaganda.

It's nothing more than pure racism and bigotry to link the Russian people of today with the horrors of Soviet Communism; the Russian people were the primary, and largest, victims of Soviet Communism, which they never voted for and was imposed upon them. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:33, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Estonia's entire armed forces consist of 7,200 personnel. If Estonia wants to align itself with Nazis, it runs the risk of getting squashed like a bug and a permanent loss of sovereignty. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:40, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

When I spoke with User:Conservative on the phone last week, he was droning on an on about Estonia bla bla bla from the same WaPo article for 10 minutes. I finally had to shout, "Newt Gingrich calls Estonia a suburb of St. Petersburg!" Please, don't confuse conservativism with stubbornness and ignorance. Educate yourself, and learn to recognize when you are being manipulated by propaganda. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:47, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

The NATO predecessor regime of Germany and Finland starved 500,000 St. Petersburg civilians to death (including Vladimir Putin's older brother). Today, the city parks are mass graves. German, Finnish, NATO, and Third Reich aggression is not something the people of St. Petersburg or Russia will ever easily forget. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:04, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

If you insist on using the rhetoric of confusing the Russian Federation with the Soviet Union and Russians with communists, than be prepared to answer why NATO is the successor regime of the Third Reich and NATO thus far has been able to conquer and hold the same territory Hitler failed to do, and why NATO, the EU, and Biden junta use the same Nazi rhetoric about inflicting a "strategic defeat" on Russia. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:56, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Something useful for you

The Propaganda Multiplier]. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 01:23, July 3, 2023 (EDT)

As the CP article on Propaganda rightly notes [7], Propaganda was originally a neutral term and could be either Positive or Negative. Propaganda in the Latin "Congregatio de Propaganda Fide", just meant, Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith/Truth. Propagation itself is not the issue; the issue is whether it's Truth, or error/lies.

Any thoughts on what Kaja Kallas, Eastern European and PM of Estonia, said above? Does she also, despite her proximity to the Kremlin, to Ukraine, and to the War, not understand the issues, in your opinion? Many Eastern European countries are justly concerned about the Kremlin's aggression. That is why, as a percentage of GDP, Estonia's contribution has been among the highest in %age. And other Eastern European countries are similar: "Central and Eastern European (CEE) countries donated the most significant percentage of their gross domestic product (GDP) to help Ukraine over the period between January 24, 2022. and February 24, 2023. Latvia contributed around 1.2 percent of its GDP in bilateral aid, followed by Estonia with 1.1 percent of GDP." https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303450/bilateral-aid-to-ukraine-in-a-percent-of-donor-gdp/NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:29, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

This is the US' relative contribution. "0.37%: "0.37 percent As of January 15, 2023, the value of U.S. bilateral aid commitments to Ukraine represented 0.37 percent of donor GDP. The U.S. donated the largest amount of bilateral humanitarian and military aid and the second largest amount of financial aid to Ukraine. Generally, U.S. foreign aid to Ukraine has increased since 2015." https://www.statista.com/statistics/1303432/total-bilateral-aid-to-ukraine/ Numerically, US support is high. In % terms, it is 0.37% of GDP. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:32, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

As to Estonia, last I heard about her was last year when she was all "Rah Rah NATO!" until someone told her NATO's war plan was to let Russia occupy Estonia for 6 months before NATO could do anything about it; then she kinda lost enthusiasm. Of course anyone stupid enough to put any faith in NATO war planners isn't really worth listening to anymore.

As to so called "humanitarian aid", how much gets raked off by the corrupt Zelensky regime and how much actually ever reaches the people intended (last year, a mayor and 2 members of his staff actually were arrested, believe it or not, for stealing something like 272 boxcars of humanitarian relief. Seriously, how do 3 people steal 272 boxcars? Stick em in their back pocket?)

I hope sooner or later you get you head out of that mainstream media sewer. You're too smart for that. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 03:50, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

I stand corrected: it was 389 boxcars, 220 semi-truck loads and 21 shipping containers. [8][9] I must've been thinking of another scandal. But you know, Ukraine has become so Americanized, it's amazing such stories are even reported, let alone an arrest or prosecution.

Estonia, incidentally, is not a democracy. Estonia discriminates against Russian people and denies them the right to vote. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:06, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Did WaPo report that in the same article? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 10:12, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

I hope you read the Propaganda Multiplier. I posted it cause it will give you some idea how the MSM is structed and how it functions, and why Conservapedia does not rely on MSM for Main Page News. It even names names of the chief culprits - Associated Press, Reuters and Agence France Presse. Their bilge is picked up and repackaged by countless other MSM outlets. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 17:19, July 5, 2023 (EDT)

The root of the problem

Russophobic bigots in Poland and the Baltic States with extremist views have made their way into NATO power centers. They do not represent the democratic will of the people of their own countries. They often find themselves at odds with the European Union's "liberal" and "democratic" values. They write reports with distortions and exaggerations about Russia, which are copy pasted into Washington, D.C. think tank reports and CIA assessments (the CIA is too amateurish to do its own research on Russia). These lies and distortions are broadcast worldwide by the globalist mainstream media as truth and fact. They provide justification for NATO's continued existence (which President Trump declared "obsolete"), and continued funding of the military industrial complex. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:33, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Something just for you

This bit of propaganda was made specifically with you in mind. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 02:33, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

What you have to realize is every side will always engage in Propaganda: that's the Nature of War. That's not the issue. The issue is what's true and what's false. In a war between Conservatives and Liberals, we know Conservative publications will be closer to the Truth than liberal ones; and yet we do our own research even while consulting such sources. I don't trust Kremlin Propaganda sources, sorry, and while western media is far from perfect, just like you're not thrown in jail in the West for disagreeing with America's/NATO's stance on Ukraine, whereas you are thrown in jail in Russia for disagreeing with Putin's Kremlin's stance on Ukraine, it is better than Kremlin Propaganda imo. Still, I take it with a grain of salt, and do my own research. I do not believe it blindly, as if it were the Word of God. Those are human reports from human perspectives and need to be independently verified. However, they have been proven correct in some instances, despite the Kremlin's denial. For e.g. Putin denied before Feb 22 that he was even going to invade Ukraine - while some analysts in the Western Press said he would - mocking it as Western "hysteria". Then he did. Then, when reports of Russian Soldiers losses increases, the Kremlin at first denied it. But then later they conducted a mobilization because their troop numbers were low. So they did take heavy losses. Etc. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:30, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

"you're not thrown in jail in the West for disagreeing with America's/NATO's stance"; I dunno. Trump got impeached over it now they're trying to put him in jail. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:49, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

I was speaking of you personally. As for Trump, the next President will probably pardon him. If Trump gets in himself, he could possibly pardon himself. What do you think of my new essay: "https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Separation_of_Church_and_State%3F_Should_Christian_Nations_promote_Christianity_and_Gospel_Values%3F NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:09, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Shooting from hip (without reading it) my first impression is Russia does promote Christian and Gospel values, America and NATO do not. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:17, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Christian and Gospel Values also include "Love thy neighbor", not "Kill thy neighbor" as Putin's Kremlin is doing. When they cease doing that, and go back to their own country, then they can truly begin to promote Gospel Values. Songs praising Jesus Christ and Mother Mary, such as the Russians sing, are all very beautiful and good, but using them to kill their fellow Orthodox Christians is sacrilegious. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:22, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Even if Hitler claimed: "My feelings as a Christian point me toward my Lord and Savior as a fighter", his actions and works prove otherwise, for the Word of God says, you know what he who hates is brother is a Murderer, and no Murderer has Eternal Life abiding in him. Those complicit in killing their brother should repent. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:24, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

On Main Page talk, you say "You can't have a flag that celebrates sodomy and forced genital mutilation - even puberty blockers have some bad permanent effects, Megyn Kelly shared - flying on the White House without terribly offending an Infinitely Holy Almighty God." This reminds me of the Chechen Muslim commander addressing Ukrainian POWs over a year ago at the 4:02 mark "LGBT flag [a metaphor for the West]". RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:34, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Conclusion: In so-called "Russian propaganda", the meaning of the term "LGBT flag" transcends religious (Christian, Muslim), ethnic (Russian, Ukrainian, Chechen, etc), cultural and linguistic bounds. Too bad its meaning is not realized in the West.

Footnote: the term "shaitan" and "shaitanic" in the subtitles means "Satan" or "Satanic". RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 10:42, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

What do you think of this short video clip

(make sure you turn on the CC translator for the lyrics). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 12:21, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Soviet Victory flag after the defeat of Nazi Germany. The flag was flown again after the liberation of Donbas and victories over Nazi forces in the Battle of Mariupol in 2022.

Thanks for sharing. It started well, and I was all for it to begin with, seeing the religious lyrics and agreeing with it, about prayer etc. Then, it devolved into debatable/questionable politics. And there I disagree. Thanks for sharing nonetheless, because it helped me better understand the perspective of some Russians who support Putin. They should ask themselves, though, why that Anti-Christian Communist Soviet Flag was displayed in the video. Atheistic Communists under Stalin, who hated Christians, killed some 20 MN Christians, including 100,000 Clergy. They should not celebrate Communism, or the Soviet Union, or Commie Thug Jo Stalin, but condemn him as an Anti-Christ Christophobic bigot and mass-murderer. Some good things have happened in Russia since Communism officially fell, but there is still too much infatuation with Communist leaders like Stalin, and the Soviet period, and thus a lack of real in-depth understanding as to what went wrong. NATO is not Russia's Enemy. Russia has been invited to join NATO by some NATO countries provided Russia becomes democratic and peaceful. I dream of a truly post-Communist Christian Russia that returns - like America/Europe too should return completely to - to its traditional Christian roots.

"According to some sources, the total number of Christian victims under the Soviet regime has been estimated to range around 12 to 20 million. At least 106,300 Russian clergymen were executed between 1937 and 1941.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:29, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

There you go again with Nazi rhetoric. The Soviet Union is not the Russian Federation. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:34, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Using you logic and methodology, it wouldn't be too difficult to attribute Nazi war crimes to NATO. I warn you to back away from this position. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:42, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Ukrainian soldier burns Russian language Bible.

Under your same logic and methodology, one can presume you support the children of Union soldiers who died in the American Civil War paying slave reparations to African Americans. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:58, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Slanders, strawmen and false accusations. I don't blame anyone today for the slavery of the distant past; but, if someone spread racist and hateful sentiments against Black People today just because they're black and wanted to harm them, that would be a serious problem. Those who idolize Stalin are in great danger of repeating his errors and mass-killings in Ukraine; that's the angle here you completely refuse to see. Like I do on any issue, including the Woke issue where I support De Santis over Biden, I will just continue to proclaim and shine the Light of Truth and leave it that. I trust, by God's Grace, in the Power of Truth itself, when proclaimed, to defeat all error and falsehood in time. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:10, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

"Slanders, strawmen and false accusations" - that is exactly what your persistent references to the Soviet Union and communism is when impugning the modern Russian Federation. "But I got it from the MSM and so-called reputable experts"; if you can discern propaganda in that Russian video, you need to apply those same skills to Western & NATO propaganda and not regurgitate neo-Nazi talking points. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:03, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

The below is Ukrainian Christian Refugees singing Glory to Jesus, on the Streets of Amsterdam. No politics. Just a devotional/religious song, praising Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ the King. Always remember, Christian Ukraine is a 90% Christian Country, mainly Orthodox Christian.

https://youtu.be/MUbLC88DSfE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6ITpDbijaANishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 08:33, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Which Patriarchate, the canonical Moscow Patriarchate or the schismatic renegade Kyiv Patriarchate? RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:07, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Proverbs 6:16 - These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

and Number 7 on the list v.19 - A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

The canonical Moscow Patriarchate traces its roots back 1,000 years; the schismatic Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kyiv Patriarchate was established by the secular non-Christian Kyiv regime in 2018. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:15, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

The symbols you object to are the Russian Victory flag. Modern Russia has nothing to apolofize for or be ashamed of for its Victory over Nazism. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:39, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Here's another without all propaganda. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 19:52, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

That was good. Thanks for sharing. Regarding the rest, we're not going to agree right now so I'm not going to keep rehashing it out. Time will tell who was right. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:00, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine Police Resort to Violence Against Religious Believers at Kiev-Pechersk Lavra. RobS^{Give Peace a chance}

The Lavra is where St. Cyril translated the Bible into Russian and formed the Cyrillic alphabet. It is the birthplace of Russian civilization. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 20:26, July 7, 2023 (EDT)

Ukraine is a victim of false religion. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 14:58, July 8, 2023 (EDT)

A bill Gov. DeSantis is expected to sign

Florida Republicans recently passed legislation that would make it a misdemeanor trespassing offense for someone to use certain bathrooms that don’t align with their sex at birth.[10] Gov. DeSantis is expected to sign it (If he hasn't done so already).

Bad boys, whatcha want. Watcha want, whatcha gonna do? When sheriff John Brown come for you. Tell me whatcha wanna do, whatcha gonna do? Conservative (talk) 16:26, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

That is exactly what we need, a federal bathroom law. Spoken like a true conservative RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 16:36, July 4, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for sharing, Cons. Gotta love Gov. De Santis. And glad we three agree on this, lol. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:56, July 5, 2023 (EDT)

You're welcome. DeSantis signed the bill and it is now a part of Florida law. I am glad this Florida state bill was made into Florida law (see: DeSantis signs transgender bathroom bill, bans gender-affirming care, expands ‘House Bill 1069’ law).

Also, I largely completed my classical music personal page. If you like this type of music, take a look at My favorite classical music songs. Conservative (talk) 03:23, July 5, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you! Looks nice, Cons. Being a lover of Classical Music, you may like this traditional Easter hymn in Latin, set in classical Gregorian Chant. Gregorian Chant in general has been called "the most beautiful thing this side of Heaven". It was once nearly universal in the liturgy of the Latin/Western Church, before the vernacular began to be widely used. Here is a You Tube link, and a Wiki description:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKJjFvgxlgg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O_filii_et_filiae

"1. Ye sons and daughters of the King, Whom heavenly hosts in glory sing, To-day the grave hath lost its sting. Alleluya!

9. On this most holy day of days, To God your hearts and voices raise In laud, and jubilee, and praise. Alleluya!

10. And we with Holy Church unite, As evermore is just and right, In glory to the King of Light. Alleluya!" NishantXavier^{For Christ the King}

Thanks for sharing the music with me. Conservative (talk) 09:06, July 6, 2023 (EDT)

New Article on my site: The Brilliance of Scholastic Philosophy

Those who want to study about how to refute modern heresies like Atheism, Deism etc would be well advised to learn Scholastic Philosophy, which is based on Patristic (i.e. Church Fathers) Philosophy, which in turn is based on Biblical Truths: thus, for example, the First Cause Argument, shows there is a First Cause of the Universe, that contingent beings cannot exist indefinitely and must terminate in a Necessarily Existent Being, he First Being, the Moral Argument that He is Supremely Good, the doctrine or principle of Divine Simplicity, that He is Pure Actuality, that there is no Potentiality (Contingency) in Him, that therefore every Perfection that exists in Him, like Goodness, Wisdom etc, exists in Him in its highest possible plenitude, and as in its Ultimate Source, from which all creatures derive it etc.

https://reasonstobechristian.com/f/the-brilliance-of-scholastic-philosophy-a-tribute-to-st-thomas

"" 12 ... But the writings on the human soul, the divine attributes, and other questions of mighty moment which the great Athanasius and Chrysostom, the prince of orators, have left behind them are, by common consent, so supremely excellent that it seems scarcely anything could be added to their subtlety and fulness. And, not to cover too wide a range, we add to the number of the great men of whom mention has been made the names of Basil the Great and of the two Gregories, who, on going forth from Athens, that home of all learning, thoroughly equipped with all the harness of philosophy, turned the wealth of knowledge which each had gathered up in a course of zealous study to the work of refuting heretics and preparing Christians.

13. But Augustine would seem to have wrested the palm from all. Of a most powerful genius and thoroughly saturated with sacred and profane learning, with the loftiest faith and with equal knowledge, he combated most vigorously all the errors of his age. What topic of philosophy did he not investigate? What region of it did he not diligently explore, either in expounding the loftiest mysteries of the faith to the faithful, or defending them against the full onslaught of adversaries, or again when, in demolishing the fables of the Academicians or the Manichaeans, he laid the safe foundations and sure structure of human science, or followed up the reason, origin, and causes of the evils that afflict man? How subtly he reasoned on the angels, the soul, the human mind, the will and free choice, on religion and the life of the blessed, on time and eternity, and even on the very nature of changeable bodies. Afterwards, in the East, John Damascene, treading in the footsteps of Basil and of Gregory of Nazianzen, and in the West, Boethius and Anselm following the doctrines of Augustine, added largely to the patrimony of philosophy.

14. Later on, the doctors of the middle ages, who are called Scholastics, addressed themselves to a great work-that of diligently collecting, and sifting, and storing up, as it were, in one place, for the use and convenience of posterity the rich and fertile harvests of Christian learning scattered abroad in the voluminous works of the holy Fathers. And with regard, venerable brethren, to the origin, drift, and excellence of this scholastic learning, it may be well here to speak more fully in the words of one of the wisest of Our predecessors, Sixtus V: "By the divine favor of Him who alone gives the spirit of science wisdom, and understanding, and who thou ages, as there may be need, enriches His Church with new blessings and strengthens it with safeguards, there was founded by Our fathers, men of eminent wisdom, the scholastic theology, which two glorious doctors in particular angelic St. Thomas and the seraphic St. Bonaventure, illustrious teachers of this faculty, . . .with surpassing genius, by unwearied diligence, and at the cost of long labors and vigils, set in order and beautified, and when skilfuly arranged and clearly explained in a variety of ways, handed down to posterity ... NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:56, July 9, 2023 (EDT)

References

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Just War

I moved your Just War material to the existing Just War Theory article. Conservative (talk) 00:17, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Too much posting in main page talk hurts Conservapedia's longer-term traffic

Material that is posted in Conservapedia are picked up by the search engines which causes a growth over time in Conservapedia's Google referral traffic. For example, the atheism page that I largely created gets about 10,000+ page views a month (see: Conservapedia:Atheism articles statistics). In addition, the other atheism-related pages get a large amount of traffic corporately because my related atheism pages are linked together.

Material that is put in main page talk appears for a brief period and then it is archived. Archived material sees very few subsequent views. For example, a recent main page archive at Talk:Main Page/Archive index/230 posted in January 2023 has received less than 50 page views. Conservative (talk) 08:19, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Please remember the 90/10 rule. Conservative (talk) 08:27, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, ignore him. He's just trying to intimidate you cause he can't engage in the same type of intellectual discussion you prompt,. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:50, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Cons, Go back to your UK potholes and dangers of macaroni and cheese; stop trying to intimidate good faith editors. Thanks. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 08:52, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Actually, I agree with some of User: NishantXavier's views (such as his material on Christian apologetics which he post on his personal website). For example, his material on why Flavius Josephus' writings are evidence that Jesus Christ existed. And because I agree with some of his views, I would like the world at large to read some of his material. If he posts a lot of material on main page talk or Conservapedia:Community Portal, it will appear for short awhile and then disappear in an archive that few people will read. Conservative (talk) 09:05, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, just ignore what he says about Main Page Talk. He's trolling out of envy cause he can't hold a candle to your level of intelligent discussion. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:08, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

First thing this morning he posts this redundant garbage up on no less than three pages to sow discord. RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:15, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Actually, I am more cutting off USA funding for the war in Ukraine than NishantXavier and realize to a greater degree Trump will likely win the GOP nomination than NishantXavier. The only reason that you have become angry at me is because I have said and that the following things: future of Russia is rather bleak due to their low fertility rate and population decline over time; Putin is corrupt and that the Russian Orthodox Church has a low attendance rate overall. Conservative (talk) 09:21, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Proverbs 6:16 doesn't apply because the various points I have raised are true. For example, Russia's population decline over time. Conservative (talk) 09:23, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

You're trolling. Go harass Ace or Spud (Jason or Trent). RobS^{Give Peace a chance} 09:33, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

Actually, Jason and I have had some cordial discussions. Also, Ace has said in the past that I was "fair game" due to my anti-atheism views. The term "fair game" is used by malevolent Scientologists. Furthermore, having factual criticism of others or their views is not an unreasonable thing. Conservative (talk) 09:56, July 13, 2023 (EDT)

It's an important issue, Conservative. We have to debate it imo, since Conservatives are divided on the Ukraine Question, though we agree on most else. We can continue to Evangelize, write Conservative Articles etc as time permits in the meanwhile. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 22:58, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

Indians 2 most favorite Countries: US and Russia, two least favorite: China and Pakistan

Just passing through and on my phone. Saw this article and thought it was interesting. Discussion later.

"NEW DELHI: A majority of Indians view China as the least friendly nation and consider US and Russia as the most friendly, a survey has found."NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:24, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/indians-view-us-russia-as-most-friendly-nations-pakistan-china-as-least-friendly-survey/articleshow/97127043.cms NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:26, July 14, 2023 (EDT)

New Article: Atheistic Communist Battle Plan against Christendom exposed

Thoughts and comments welcome, from RobS, Cons, LT, or anyone else. I think almost everyone, even those who have been Conservatives for many years, will find some new info in this article to reflect on. Rob should like it since I quoted Vladimir Solzhenitsyn, a devout Orthodox Christian, and Russian Historian, on the History of the Russian Revolution. I think Cons will also like it since it shows Abortionism, Communism, Evolution, all these Atheistic Errors we are fighting and which Christendom is struggling to presently overcome, all came from these Demonic Atheists, like Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin and Joseph Stalin, and Mao. As we shed Light on their Darkness, that darkness will dissipate, i.e. as we educate people about their Errors and its Evil Mass-Murder, Militant Atheism in the West will collapse: [pls note article in progress and I will periodically update it - for e.g. I've to give the reference for Mao's 50 MN killings, though I have it. Will do later].

"Many people are not aware of how Marxist Communists, taught by that Demonic Atheist, Karl Marx, that Jewish Apostate from Germany, tried to destroy the Catholic Church, and Orthodox Church, and all Christendom by waging War against us. Indeed, we may say, in some parts of the world, World War III began around 1950 or so, and we've been fighting it for 70+ years. Abortion was also promoted by the Bolshevik Communists, so there are 2 BN Poor Murdered Innocent Children ... as Casualties in this World War III. More than in all other wars in history combined, and drawn from every nation, every people, and every race. Therefore, all Good People everywhere must fight back against Communist Terrorism, and its Abortionist Agenda ...

Indeed in some places, like, in Russia, we can say World War III, in secret, so to speak, a secret War, has been going on even from WWII and WWI days. After all, the Bolshevik Communists started their Revolution in 1917.

In the 1950s, Atheistic Communist Terrorists then began the Infiltration of Important International Organizations like the Catholic Church and also various American Agencies.

This is documented below: " Manning Johnson, a former official of the Communist Party in America, testified before the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1953:

"Once the tactic of infiltration of religious organizations was set by the Kremlin... the Communists discovered that the destruction of religion could proceed much faster through the infiltration of the Church by Communists operating within the Church itself. The Communist leadership in the United States realized that the infiltration tactic in this country would have to adapt itself to American conditions and the religious makeup peculiar to this country. In the earliest stages it was determined that with only small forces available to them, it would be necessary to concentrate Communist agents in the seminaries. The practical conclusion drawn by the Red leaders was that these institutions would make it possible for a small Communist minority to influence the ideology of future clergymen in the paths conducive to Communist purposes... The policy of infiltrating seminaries was successful beyond even our communist expectations."" https://reasonstobechristian.com/f/atheistic-communist-battle-plan-against-christendom-exposed NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:12, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

Started an Article on Catholic Papabile Cardinals in Next Conclave

Just started the article after a discussion with Conservative. Will update it periodically.

https://www.conservapedia.com/List_of_Catholic_Papabile_Cardinals_in_Next_Conclave NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:21, July 15, 2023 (EDT)

New Essay: Christian Nations, when it is in their Power to do so, should promote Christianity and Gospel Values - an obligation

https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Separation_of_Church_and_State%3F_Should_Christian_Nations_promote_Christianity_and_Gospel_Values%3F NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:07, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Mathematical Proof for a First Cause from St. Thomas Aquinas, as formulated by myself, Nishant Xavier, in a mathematical formula

Just added a Mathematical Proof for God's Existence on Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument Third paragraph in argument from contingency. Will write more on that argument right here on Conservapedia in time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmological_argument I hope our Atheist Friends learn to reason rightly and come to discover the Loving God Who created them, a God who exists eternally and necessarily, because He is our Creator, whereas we are contingent and non-necessary. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:08, July 16, 2023 (EDT)

Quick note about Christian evangelism and the future growth of Christendom

Most atheists live in Europe and East Asia. Due to the issues of the decline of Europe and [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power|troubles in China]], it appears as if troubled times could accelerate desecularization in those areas due to social/political/economic instability (See: European desecularization in the 21st century and Future of atheism in China). In other words, the amount of adherents of atheism/agnosticism could contract/fold like an accordion in those areas - especially in China if the Chinese Communist Party loses power. See also: Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union and Atheism and its retention rate in individuals

With that being said, here is where I think the bigger evangelism opportunity is for Christendom: Evangelism - Christianity vs. Islam competition in Africa. Conservative (talk) 14:33, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

China's newfound friendly foreign relations: One Reason China Is Willing to Engage Again: Its Troubled Economy. A friend in need is a friend indeed! If the Chinese Communist Party doesn't fold in 10-25 years, that would be some incredible feat! Conservative (talk) 15:41, July 17, 2023 (EDT)

I came across some data related to Christian evangelism that overturns some of my previous thinking about the effectiveness of various outreaches in terms of the target audiences and methodology. I will contact you about this matter sometimes this week as I think that you will find it interesting. Conservative (talk) 11:23, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

War in Ukraine: How it makes Russia's demographic crisis worse

NishantXavier, I know you are interested in the war in Ukraine.

I thought you might be interested in how the war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis worse.

Here are some videos related to this matter:

• RUSSIA Facing Population Disaster - Demographic Crisis, Employee Shortages & Economic Crisis

• RUSSIAN Industry - Brain Drain, Employee Shortages, Demographic & Economic Crisis

It's going to get worse as the war progresses. And there is no end of the war that is clearly in sight. Conservative (talk) 10:59, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Pretty lame excuse to justify Republican support of Nazism ("there all gonna die, anyway"). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:12, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

We are all going to die. The issue is that the Russians are not replacing people dying sufficiently to have a stable or growing population. And so their rapidly greying population is going to shrink significantly. Conservative (talk) 11:16, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

This obsession with futurism leads you into contradictory arguments and conclusions: "Rightwing populism is sweeping Europe!" Who cares if they have a subreplacement level and all gonna die anyway? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:58, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

A lot of people, including myself, care about the future. One of the big reasons why people care about what is happening presently is that it affects the future. Conservative (talk) 12:04, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Oh. So again, why is growing rightwing populism news when they are all going to die anyway cause of a subreplacement level? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:16, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

No man or country is an island. We all affect others to a degree. Furthermore, right-wing populism can affect immigration and a society's view about its native religious tradition. And a country's religiousity affects a country's fertility rate (See: Atheism and fertility rates). Conservative (talk) 12:22, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Europe is a museum. So when the mummified corpses of rightwing populists rise up to seize power, what's gonna replace them when their subreplacement level finally exterminates Western civilization?

Look, your attempts at pseudo-intellectual discussion might bemuse Ace for years, but I don't have the patience for it. It's why I have to cuss and swear just to get your attention on the phone for 2 minutes. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:29, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

I am not fond of discussions with you given your penchant for contentiousness, using logical fallacies and being an arrogant loudmouth over the phone who has difficulty controlling his anger. That is why I firmly decided to no longer take your calls. And you are the one that interjected yourself into this discussion. If you don't want to have discussions with me, then don't go out of your way to have them. Conservative (talk) 12:33, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Jeffrey Sachs just appeared on a Livestream on the Duran; you should be talking about that if you want to speak with any authority on Russia. Till then, your lame excuses to justify Republican support for Nazism is doing more harm than good. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 12:41, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

The best solution to Demographic Decline is to Outlaw Abortion. Russias Population would zoom to 200 MN and more if they did this in no time. Abortion leads to Demographic Problems: those who've researched this know it well. Russia shouldn't have invaded, but I think they will go back home in 1 to 2 years, and the War will end peacefully. This War is not good for Russia herself. If only there were True Democracy in Russia Today, and a fair and free debate going on there, Alexey Navalny and other Russian Patriots would be freely making this case to the Russian People as the whole world watched. And not only that, but even Russian TV Anchors would be free to say what they really think, not just what they have to to say to keep their jobs. It's really sad, but that's how it is. Hopefully, the situation changes soon, and they get to hear both sides. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:37, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, you mean like Tucker Carlson? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:32, July 25, 2023 (EDT)

DeSantis campaign ad

BTW, Russia also has elections in 2024, in March 2024. I have the feeling 2024 has the potential to be the beginning of an era of epochal change for the world. It also depends on our efforts and prayers to work toward that end, for the Common Good of All Nations. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:42, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Read this page for Der Untermensch, and tell me both you guys haven't directly quoted from Nazi literature (including references to the Ukrainian famine).

When you don't know what your talking about, it's best to remain silent. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:23, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, you wrote: " why I have to cuss and swear just to get your attention on the phone for 2 minutes".

Since User: NishantXavier has admonished you for using foul language at Conservapedia, which is an unchristian thing to do (Ephesians 4:29 and Bible verses about using foul language), you have reformed yourself in terms of the language you use at this website. It is commonly thought that some individuals who commonly use profanity have limited vocabularies and imaginations (Handbook for New Converts By William J. (Bill) Morgan ThD, page 77 and The Etiquette of Profanity by Alan Weiss). A few of our calls in which you behaved inappropriately in my estimation, I cut short as nobody (including me of course) wants to talk to a belligerent loudmouth.

Lastly, as you and User: NishantXavier are aware, I am against the USA giving the corrupt country of Ukraine militant funding/supplies. So your comment alleging that I support Republicans funding Ukraine's war effort was pointless. Conservative (talk) 17:45, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

(left) Black Sun logo worn by Christchurch mosque shooter; [11] (right) Black Sun logo on the cover page of the Buffalo, New York supermarket shooter's manifesto. [12]

RobS, what is wrong in what I said? Outlawing Abortion will in fact increase demographic trends and fertility rates irrespective of other things. It's a brute fact. That's true in America, Africa, Europe, Russia, Asia or anywhere else. You should research what the Bolshevik Communists did. First they promoted Abortion brutally for many years. Then, all of a sudden, they reversed themselves on that. Why? Did they suddenly become pro-life Christians? No, it was because, it is a mathematical statistical fact that promoting Abortion lowers fertility rates - which is why Western Woke Liberal and Racist Eugenicist Margaret Sanger wanted to do it to the Black Population, remember? When they realized this fact, though they were still Atheistic Communists, they limited Abortion for a time.

We Pro-Lifers should draw the actual conclusion: beside moral reasons why Abortion is wrong, Abortion is also wrong because it badly affects, demography, fertility rates and leads to aging populations and other ill effects. Therefore, this is another reason to Outlaw Abortion- anywhere in the world.

I'm not saying they have poor demography, therefore let's kill them; not at all. I'm saying they should go back to their own country so there can be Peace and then they and others can work on fixing the real problems Abortion causes everywhere. St. Padre Pio said, beside Abortion being Homicide, it is also Suicide. When asked why, he said because of the effects it leads to in time. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:29, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

"they have poor demography, therefore let's kill them", yah but that's the only argument one your mentors makes. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:29, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

Btw, Rob, if you agree Cussing and Swearing is wrong after seeing the Biblical Evidence for that, then I commend you highly. Of the 100s to whom I've shown those verses, only you had the courage to do that [that I know of]. Good. On the personal dispute between the two of you, Cons and Rob, I am not poking my nose in that. That's between the two. My job is to help educate and spread awareness about the Word of God, and work for the Kingship of Christ in this world. All Christians once believed Christ should be King, as my signature says. Let's go back to that. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:02, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

You're not educating anyone spreading Russophobia, warmongering, and hate. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:29, July 18, 2023 (EDT)

I tried to warn you guys....

Common Nazi symbols used by the Azov Battalion and their acolytes.

As I've tried to warn both you and User:Conservative, it's best to keep your mouth shut rather than speak on things you don't understand. "He that refraineth his lips is wise."

• DeSantis Campaign Fires Creator of Ron DeSantis Promotional Video Showcasing Pro Ukraine Nazi Support and Symbolism;
• Axios: DeSantis team fires aide who secretly made video with Nazi symbol;
• NBC News: Ron DeSantis fires staffer who retweeted video with Nazi imagery;
• The video (2.1m views the day it was posted).

And it's only getting started.

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:20, July 26, 2023 (EDT)

IMO, neither one of you guys are doing a dang thing for the conservative movement and the Republican party by promoting anti-Putinism and Nazism. You guys create these messes and leave it for others to clean up. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:28, July 26, 2023 (EDT)

Now if me, NBC News & Axios can figure this much out before DeSantis press spokesperson and DeSantis supporters do, there is something seriously wrong. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:58, July 26, 2023 (EDT)

Pathetic Rubbish, Rob. De Santis is a Far Greater Conservative than you are and the Best Man ever God has sent to deliver America. You are blinded by your idolatry of Trump, who bragged about molesting the genitals of multiple women in a very vulgar way. How you reconcile that with your Christianity I don't know. Only the Pure of Heart enter the Kingdom of God, as the Lord said; only they will see God, which that parallel passage in Hebrews confirms when it says, "Strive for the holiness without which no one will see God". You are not living this, you are not practicing this, every time you cuss and swear, and when you support things like this over a man with a Perfect Record, a Married Man, A Loving Father, A Devoted Husband, a Faithful Patriot, a Serving Soldier. Pathetic. That's why I took a break from Conservapedia for a while. Not going to debate this on talk pages, but will on my home page. Will just share some news stuff here and there. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:40, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with trump. This is about DeSantis ability to vet people for appointments. The way a candidate runs their campaign is an indication of how they will run an administration. Either DeSantis didn't know his campaign chief's Nazi sympathies, or agreed with them. or the flunky himself his too stupid to understand issues, or what is at stake. Most clearly, the aide obviously is a warmonger. Whether he's a nazi warmonger or not is debatable.

Bottmline, life's too short, and the issues too pressing, for such inane arguments from subversives RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:45, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

What's the issue with firing someone who made a Nazi imagery? I would do the same. Wouldn't you? Have you delivered Record Budget Surpluses, like De Santis did in Florida? Even Liberal people admitted Florida was the no.1 economy in America. and leave aside his accomplishments for us Conservatives. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:46, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) The issues is hiring somebody with Nazi imagery in the first place which NBC News is only too happy to smear Republicans with. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:49, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

"CNBC: Florida has the best economy in the U.S. The state has seen an incredible comeback from the coronavirus pandemic, with a surge in employment — mostly from the leisure and hospitality sector — and record numbers of visitors in the first quarter of 2023.17-Jul-2023"

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2023/07/17/florida-cnbc-worst-states-live-work-desantis-woke-act-forbes/70419402007/#:~:text=CNBC%3A%20Florida%20has%20the%20best%20economy%20in%20the%20U.S.&text=The%20state%20has%20seen%20an,the%20first%20quarter%20of%202023. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:47, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

The damage is done. “Not Sure Yet” Closing in on Ron DeSantis. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:52, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

No, it has everything to do with Trump. Trump molested multiple woman's genitals, thus committing fornication. De Santis is a devoted Husband and Father. Trump fled the Army. De Santis courageously marched into it, because of his Great Love for his Country. You don't understand the intensity of the spiritual battle going on right now in the world which I discern in Prayer and how Victory for Christendom so greatly depends on Conservatives mobilizing, uniting and getting behind De Santis in the next 6 months. If we miss this opportunity now, we may never have it again. Wake up, my friend, Rob! Don't want to be harsh, but can't pretend this is a minor issue. It is huge.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:53, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

De Santis was crushing Trump last December. I believe he can be doing the same by this December. Will not just keep debating, but will rather pray for it.NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:55, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

Will answer some objections from time to time, though. Don't want to be harsh, especially not on fellow conservatives. Apologies if I was. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 13:56, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

You don't see the hypocrisy, do you? NBC News promotes Zelensky and Nazism, but smears a Republican candidate for using the same imagery NBC uses to promote war in Ukraine. DeSantis is an idiot for hopping on the War Party bandwagon, and smearing the rest of us Republicans as Nazis. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 13:59, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

Typical Deep State tactic. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:04, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

Heil Zelensky - that is the same message the DeSantis video conveys. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:12, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

I don't support De Santis for any other reason than Culture War issues, his excellent record on being a Pro-Life Conservative, because he is the only man who can win America back for Christ and for the American Government to promote Gospel Truth around the world, not the Liberal Woke Agenda as it currently is doing by idolatrously displaying flags of sexual sins like sodomy and genital mutilation on the White House. Think how Great the Glory for Jesus Christ if the World saw the White House worshipping Jesus Christ and erecting the Cross instead. Many Conservatives are far too liberal compared to Christians 100 years ago. That is the sad reality. Christian Nations must believe and promote Christian Values at home and abroad. This is the most important fight of our time and only De Santis can win it. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 14:12, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

You sound just like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez - she supported Biden cause of his stand on social issues and the Culture War. Now both of you use social issues as as an excuse to put the moral issue of opposing Nazism on the back burner. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:20, July 29, 2023 (EDT)

Prez. Lincoln on Governments promoting Christian Truth

See this. This is what I'm talking about it. Lincoln got it. De Santis gets it. That's all I can say.

"Whereas the Senate of the United States, devoutly recognizing the supreme authority and just government of Almighty God in all the affairs of men and of nations, has by a resolution requested the President to designate and set apart a day for national prayer and humiliation; and

Whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon, and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord;

And, insomuch as we know that by His divine law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people? We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity; we have grown in numbers, wealth, and power as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten God. We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us, and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the God that made us.

It behooves us, then, to humble ourselves before the offended Power, to confess our national sins, and to pray for clemency and forgiveness.

Now, therefore, in compliance with the request, and fully concurring in the views of the Senate, I do by this my proclamation designate and set apart Thursday, the 30th day of April, 1863, as a day of national humiliation, fasting, and prayer. And I do hereby request all the people to abstain on that day from their ordinary secular pursuits, and to unite at their several places of public worship and their respective homes in keeping the day holy to the Lord and devoted to the humble discharge of the religious duties proper to that solemn occasion.

All this being done in sincerity and truth, let us then rest humbly in the hope authorized by the divine teachings that the united cry of the nation will be heard on high and answered with blessings no less than the pardon of our national sins and the restoration of our now divided and suffering country to its former happy condition of unity and peace. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the city of Washington, this 30th day of March, A. D. 1863, and of the Independence of the United States the eighty-seventh."

From: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/proclamation-97-appointing-day-national-humiliation-fasting-and-prayer

Check out my new essay

In our last spoken conversation, we talked about the Eucharist and about Martin Luther.

Read my new essay: The Dakotas, the USA states with the highest percentage of Lutherans, are the most pro-life states in the USA

Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruits". Here I stand, I can do no other! :) Conservative (talk) 18:33, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

Indeed he did. I myself have been criticized for speaking bluntly, but have learned to moderate my speech when speaking about people's religious beliefs. User:Conservative either forgot or hasn't been able to delete and vandalize the Debate page Nishant created where the two of you came down on opposite sides of a subject. Note the invective used against 1 billion believers as the basis of his position: The Catholic Church is a corrupt joke. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:52, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

One of the individuals who has used the User: Conservative account is a Catholic. Andy Schlafly, the owner of Conservapedia, is a Catholic and we have a very coridal relationship. NishantXavier and I have had cordial spoken conversations.

At the same time, both the Old Testament prophets and Jesus Himself had righteous indignation at times.

One of the staunchest Catholics in America, Michael Voorhees of ChurchMilitant.com (ChurchMilitant.com is the website of a Catholic apostolate based in the metro Detroit, MI), has railed against the significant problem of homosexual Catholic priests and high-up homosexual Catholic leaders as can be seen HERE and HERE.

"For everything there is a season, and a time for every matter under heaven." - King Solomon. Conservative (talk) 23:16, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

"Deuteronomy 17:16. He [the king] shall not multiply horses — Though he might have horses for his own use, yet he was not to have many horses for his officers and guard, much less for war, lest he should trust in them."
2 Chronicles 1:14 "Solomon brought together many chariots and horses for his soldiers to ride."

Your quotations from scripture is what Conservapedia describes as a "Cafeteria Christian." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:40, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

(ec) We all pretty much understand the church or a church to refer to people, the body of believers. But User:Cons doesn't qualify the assertion with "Catholic hierarchy" or "Catholic traditions". No. He makes the sweeping generalization that one billion members of the Roman Catholic Church are "a corrupt joke."

Now this isn't the first time User:Cons made inarticulate and foolish comments in a high profile discussion; if you try to clarify his meaning and intent with him, you will discover it's your fault for not being able to read his mind, rather than accepting his words "as is". By their fruits ye shall know them. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:22, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, I suggest you bring up this matter to the owner of the website as soon as possible. Godspeed. Conservative (talk) 23:36, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

Nah. I'm not a vindictive person or motivated by vindictiveness - nor in a contest to prove who the biggest butt-kisser on the server is. By their fruits ye shall know them. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:43, July 30, 2023 (EDT)

3 Shocking Things Luther said

Ok, Friends, let's look at 3 Shocking Things Luther said:

1. "The Book of James an Epistle of Straw", an insult to the Holy Ghost Who inspired the Apostle; Little Jimmy [the Apostle James] should be thrown into the stove: "Away with James! Its authority is not great enough to cause me to abandon the doctrine of faith … If they [referring to other teachers] will not agree to my interpretations, then I shall make rubble of it. I almost feel like throwing Jimmy into the stove. It is flatly against St. Paul and all the rest of Scripture in ascribing justification to works … Therefore I do not want him in my Bible.4

Luther went so far as to assert that no one could be saved who did not agree with him on this crucial issue of justification."

From: https://chnetwork.org/2018/06/05/luther-the-rest-of-the-story-part-iii-through-open-doors-into-paradise/

St. James the Apostle, the First Bishop of Jerusalem, who authored the Epistle of James, was a Holy Martyr for Jesus Christ. He was called "James the Just" even by the unbelieving Jews because of his matchless Sanctity. He used to kneel in prayer before the Lord all the time. He used to worship God along with the Jews and minister to them when possible. They finally killed him by throwing him of a balcony when he was asked who Jesus Christ was. He answered them: "Why do you ask me concerning Jesus? Do you not know He is the Son of God, and seated at the Right Hand of Power"? Then they were angry with him and said: "The Just One has erred" and threw him to his death. Before he died, he prayed, loving and forgiving his enemies, "Lord do not hold this sin against them". This James is also mentioned by Josephus. He was a cousin brother or relative of Our Lord Jesus Christ, being the son of Alpheus. Some Jews held the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 A.D. was because of the murder of James the Apostle. Here St. Jerome: "In the eighth book of his Antiquities he [Josephus] most openly acknowledges that Christ was slain by the Pharisees on account of the greatness of his miracles, that John the Baptist was truly a prophet, and that Jerusalem was destroyed because of the murder of James the Apostle." (St. Jerome on Josephus and James the Apostle)

What Holy Martyrdom did you ever suffer for Christ, o Luther, that you dare to attack St. James, and attack the Holy Spirit in doing so?

Here is St. James 2 which Martin Luther so much disliked: "Faith Without Works Is Dead 14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [f]your works, and I will show you my faith by [g]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [h]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [i]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [j]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." Amen. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:28, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

See this also: "I do not admit that my doctrine can be judged by anyone, even the angels. He who does not receive my doctrine [of sola fide] cannot be saved.5" https://chnetwork.org/2018/06/05/luther-the-rest-of-the-story-part-iii-through-open-doors-into-paradise/

Extremely Foolish, Luther was. May God have Mercy on his Soul. In Jesus' Name. Amen. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:40, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

When Jesus Christ taught to store up Treasures in Heaven by Good Works like Alms-Giving, He sufficiently indicated that Good Works play a part in Salvation. We are Justified by Grace, then we receive Sanctification through a life-long process of Good Works, then we receive Final Perseverance in Grace and Full Salvation in the hour of death. The Lord said: "The one who perseveres to the end will be saved" (Mat 24:13). Will get back later. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:47, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, I know that faith without works is dead.[13][14] And James also said, "You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works".[15] So Luther made a mistake in this area. I also disagree with some of the other things Luther said (Some of his comments on the Book of Revelation, etc.). And a very conservative Lutheran pastor told me that sometimes Luther contradicted himself and that his right-hand man Philip Melanchthon made corrections and clarified things.

But at the same time, my data shows that Lutherans are actually doing better than Catholics in the USA on the works front as far as pro-life issues and family life (Having kids) so they are doing quite well as far as works (And this is especially true among the most conservative Lutherans such as the ones in the Dakatas and conservative branches within Lutheranism). See: The Dakotas, the USA states with the highest percentage of Lutherans, are the most pro-life states in the USA

With that being said, Michael Voris' YouTube channel ChurchMilitant.com (A very staunch Catholic YouTube channel) recently said on multiple occasions that homosexual clergy/leadership is still a significant problem in the Catholic church as can be seen at Pope's Fraternity Fest Flaunts Semi-Nude Gay Dancer | Rome Dispatch (produced 1 month ago) and Top Cardinal: Don't Blame Gay Priests For Sex Abuse | Rome Dispatch (produced 1 month ago) and Catholic — News Report — Priest Taps Jewish Scholar to Defend Homosexuality (Produced 10 months ago) and The Vortex — It's Homosexuality, Stupid! (produced one year ago) and The Vortex — Homosexual Hierarchy (Produced 2 years ago).

In addition, I do stand by my post at:The Catholic Church is a corrupt joke. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits

And we disagree on various Catholic doctrines relating to papal authority (Ex-Cathedra, Mary/saints, etc.).

The bottom line is that the Catholic Church still needs significant reform and has a significant corruption problem. Also, I would argue that Luther's attempts to reform the Catholic Church did have some positive effects (Indulgences, etc.). Conservative (talk) 05:47, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Wud I tell ya? He gets called out on his invective and he doubles down. I'm of a mind to call him on the phone and cuss him out. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:42, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

No, you are mistaken. I know some in the Church in the US are liberal, and that's for other reasons. There are 1.3 BN Catholic Christians in the world, and some are extremely devout, especially in the developing world, like Africa and Asia, as well as many Good American and European Catholic Christians. Pope St. John Paul II is one such and he, even according to Gorbachev, helped bring down the Soviet Union.

But Martin Luther was a very wicked man and his Anti-Christian Revolution was not of God: "The followers of Martin Luther don't deny that he said Christ committed adultery three times. They do debate, however, if he was drunk or just being sarcastic when he said it.

Luther's blasphemous statement is recorded in what historians call his "table talks," a series of comments on various topics that were recorded by his followers. In one such comment, Luther remarked:

Christ committed adultery first of all with the woman at the well about whom St. John tells us. Was not everybody about Him saying, "Whatever has he been doing with her?" Secondly, with Mary Magdalene and thirdly with the woman taken in adultery whom he dismissed so lightly. Thus, even Christ who was so righteous must have been guilty of fornication before He died."

Pathetic Blasphemy! From: https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/luther-said-christ-committed-adultery-three-times

How right St. Thomas More was when he observed of Luther: "There are not many who have shown themselves Enemies of that See [the See/Throne of St. Peter in Rome] who have not, SHORTLY THERAFTER SHOWN THEMSELVES TO BE ENEMIES OF THE WHOLE CHRISTIAN RELIGION".

Since Luther said Christ was an Adulterer and committed Adultery 3 times and was "guilty of fornication", he was an Anti-Christian Blasphemer.

Since you quote Michal Voris so much, you should read the above also which is from Michael Voris' Church Militant. Martin Luther was a very wicked man, like those later heretics Darwin and Marx, who were also Vicious Racists NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:30, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

While my Site ReasonstobeChristian is and will remain Fairly Ecumenical, I will always oppose Anti-Catholic Bigots like Martin Luther was:

"Basic Introduction and the Purpose of this Website: Welcome, Dear Brothers, Sisters and Friends, to Reasons to become Christian!

Here, as the name of our site implies, we aim to discuss the answers to the Great Question: "Are there Good Reasons to trust Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior or become Christian?" 2.6 Billion Christians around the world, including much of the free world, but also 360 Million Christians who suffer persecution for their Faith, have answered in the affirmative. This site explores Apologetic Reasons why we believe the remaining part of humanity should do the same also. Stay tuned!

From (1) Messianic Prophecies made 100s of years before Christ to (2) Incredible Design/Fine Tuning manifest in the Universe, to (3) Documented and Irrefutable Healing Miracles in Jesus' Name to (4) DNA: Amazing Scientific Proof a Most Wise Supreme Being created us and (5) Archaeological Evidence: "No archaeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical Reference", prepare to be amazed, if you've never heard it before, how much evidence there is for Christianity!

And there's much more: (6) "The Great Saints and their Miracles in 2000 Glorious Years of Christendom" (St. Patrick, St. Francis Xavier, St. John Vianney, St. Padre Pio etc) (7) Eucharistic Miracles: A Very Powerful Evidence for the Truth of Christianity. (8) The Shroud of Turin: Wondrous Artifact/Relic of the Historical Christ's Resurrection. (9)The Resurrection: The Best Documented Fact in History- for which 11 Apostles suffered and died as Martyrs, many more of the 72 disciples doing the same, and witnessed by 500 Eyewitnesses - is Christ's Resurrection.

God bless you all, dear friends, and the deepest most burning desire of my heart is that we may all be saved, live happily here on Earth loving and serving Almighty God, and doing good to our neighbor, and then enjoying eternal happiness with Him, Jesus Christ, His Mother Mary, His legal father St. Joseph, all His Angels and Saints, forever and ever, world without end, Amen!"

From: https://reasonstobechristian.com/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:32, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Zelensky's not doing so good with his neighbors in Donbas. Then again, Zelensky's not Christian, either. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:55, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Additional response from a discussion participant and Subsequent Rejoinders

Michael Voris of ChurchMilitant.com (ChurchMilitant.com is the website of a Catholic apostolate based in the metro Detroit, MI) is a very staunch Catholic. And I know that you are not wanting to address his very credible and legitimate concerns about the significant extent of the homosexual Catholic priests/hierarchy problem so I regret to say that we cannot have a productive conversation about this matter. Conservative (talk) 06:35, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

More MSM brainwashing. It's only in the US and Germany where about 150-160 million of world's 1.3 billion Roman Catholics live, and atheist lawyers have attempted to bankrupt the church. Why don't they and their media sycophants go after public school teachers where the incidence of child sexual abuse is much more frequent, by a factor of more than 100. Oh, public schools and public school teachers are a sacred institution. We can't have people losing faith and confidence in government and government schools. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:05, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Update: your MSM, which you put so much faith and trust in, now says homosexuality is "normal". So why the focus on demonizing Catholic priests, other than the source of it is bigotry or aligns with an MSM news consumers bigotry? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:08, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

You need to address why Martin Luther was an Anti-Catholic Bigot and Anti-Christian Blasphemer who hated Jesus Christ and called Him an Adulterer. If your friend called even you an Adulterer after you'd just spend some time with a woman without any sin, would you like that? How much less will Jesus Christ, the Sinless Lamb of God, like being blasphemed by Martin Luther? It won't go well for Martin Luther on Judgment Day unless he repented of his sins and retracted his errors before death. No one wants to see Almighty God in His Wrath after having said God committed adultery with 3 woman without repenting of that. If you don't address it, it stands unrefuted. Luther was evil. Luther was like Darwin and Marx. He hated Jesus Christ and he deceived and confused many, even some good people. Now, Ive unconfused you. If you want to know the Truth, that is.

You should know the Rate of Abuse in the Protestant Churches is higher than in the Catholic Church. Stats Subsequently. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:43, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

"In the spring of 2002, when the sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church was receiving unprecedented attention, the Christian Science Monitor reported on the results of national surveys by Christian Ministry Resources. The conclusion: “Despite headlines focusing on the priest pedophile problem in the Roman Catholic Church, most American churches being hit with child sexual-abuse allegations are Protestant, and most of the alleged abusers are not clergy or staff, but church volunteers.”[xxi]

Finally, in the authoritative work by Penn State professor Philip Jenkins, Pedophiles and Priests, it was determined that between .2 and 1.7 percent of priests are pedophiles. The figure among the Protestant clergy ranges between 2 and 3 percent.[xxii]"

https://www.catholicleague.org/sexual-abuse-in-social-context-clergy-and-other-professionals/ The Rate of Abuse (1) is about 1% among Priests (2) 2.5 % among Protestants (3) 5 % among Secular School Teachers. Priests have a 99% Success Rate in rooting out this evil Behavior, Protestants only 97.5% and Secular Teachers only 95%. It is a problem in all sections of societies, and it is a Crime and must be rooted out with 0% Tolerance and aim for a 100% Success Rate in rooting it out, but the facts show Priests do better than Pastors and Teachers. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:47, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Adultry outside marriage is common among Protestant clergy, and virtually absent among Catholic clergy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:23, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, there are liberal portions or Protestantism and very conservative portions of Protestantism. I have been a member of conservative Protestant churches for a very significant portion of time and there has never been a big problem of conservative Protestant churches in my areas (I have lived in a fairly large city and in a big city. I also traveled throughout the USA for awhile for a U.S. corporation) as far as having a pedophilia problem (I don't know of a single instance of it occurring in the areas I have lived in as far as conservative Protestant churches), but there was a VERY BIG problem with the Catholic church diocese in my current area as far as far as pedophilia.

Nah nah, I can't hear you. I've decided to withdraw from this discussion.

Also, the Catholic Church has a lot of power that they can wield against proponents of homosexuality and practicing homosexuals within the clergy and church hierarchy such as ex-communication. But as Michael Voris shows they are not doing it and there is currently still a big problem.

Next, as far as your claim that Luther "hated Jesus Christ and called Him an Adulterer", it initially seems unclear in terms of historicity, etc after seeing counter-arguments at: Luther Said Christ Committed Adultery? A Primer on How to Respond. And Luther's life doesn't reflect someone who hated Jesus Christ.

Lastly, your total lack of response in relation to my Dakotas data or to address the Michael Voris' legitimate concerns shows me that you are not acting in good faith in our discussion. Given that I have given good-faith responses to your points, this is unacceptable and I have decided to withdraw from our discussion. Conservative (talk) 08:45, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, when User:Cons gets his butt kicked in a discussion, he always decides to "withdraw" to focus more on career. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:23, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Faith without works is dead.

User:Conservative: So, you decided to not do the work of standing for the Protestant faith? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:30, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

I edited my reply above as far as the Luther/Jesus/adulterer allegation. Conservative (talk) 14:09, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

There is a discernable pattern here. User Cons makes an outlandish assertion, for example "the Catholic Church is a joke". If he hasn't deleted the discussion yet along with everyone's contributions, two years later he gets called out on the assertion. Rather than say, "I misspoke", "it was hyberbole", "I didn't mean to say...", or even "I erred", etc etc etc, he doubles down with "I stand by my statement" (User:Cons has stubbornness confused with conservativism) and then suddenly has more important things to do with his career and "withdraws" from discussion (but he'll be back in less than 24 hours with a fresh round of absurdities).

And these misunderstandings are always someone else's fault; someone else is being uncooperative or "acting in bad faith", but he'll be back after "withdrawing" from discussion in less than 24 hours, and does not consider openly lying to other editors as "acting in bad faith." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 15:41, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Kudos to you, Nishant. He'll never admit it, but it looks like Nishant caused User:Cons to rethink his position (even though he has stubbornness confused with conservativism). Will he ever apologize for calling the body of believers "a corrupt joke"? He's doubled down on the statement 2 years later. "Here I stand, I can do no other!"

Cons is what I call a lone wolf, he has trouble working with others. This began with him trying to organize a conspiracy cause he figured you were an anti-Putin Nazi. Now he has to rethink his whole life and his boasting of Protestant cultural achievements. Good work. By their fruits ye shall know them. Every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account. In judgement, I have more confidence in defending my swearing in dealing with ignorance and stupidity before God (which I'm sure he God has long experience with and can empathize with a loss of patience) than others who write thousands of articles on Atheism with a malicious attitude toward atheists and not for the glory of God. He told me as much. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:08, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Cons: you can reply or withdraw just as you pls. I will continue documenting some errors of Martin Luther on my homepage for the record, and maybe write an article on it for my website later on. I did address your points (1) firstly, you brought up Michael Voris, so I mentioned he has documented this too. Luther did say it, and Lutheran scholars know it. Here it is again: "The followers of Martin Luther don't deny that he said Christ committed adultery three times. They do debate, however, if he was drunk or just being sarcastic when he said it." https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/luther-said-christ-committed-adultery-three-times Second, this or that incident is not the main thing, but the overall rate of abuse. It is lower in the Catholic Church than in Protestant churches. I'm not anti-Protestant, as my website clearly shows. I am however Anti-Anti-Catholics. If you can claim, "The Catholic Church is a corrupt joke", why can't I say: "The Lutheran Church is a corrupt joke". 1.3 BN Catholics, e.g. in Pro-Life Catholic Poland and elsewhere, are doing so much to advance the Cause of Life and Save Babies. The Lutheran church has but little influence by comparison, and moreover, like the rest of Protestantism, is hopelessly divided into many denominations. Anyway, I stand my ground. Luther was not a good man. Many of those who followed him, though, in ignorance, were good. Now that you see Luther did say this and other erroneous things - like Christians can commit Adultery 1000s of times a day, mortal sins which cause the soul to lose grace and the Holy Spirit - you should re-evaluate him imo.

In Christ. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:02, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

As far as my position on Luther and faith/works/holiness/sanctification, please go HERE which copies my post in the discussion thread below. Conservative (talk) 22:41, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

He's just spamming - another discernable pattern.

Look, User:Cons, I understand your posting about "the Catholic Church is a corrupt joke" is your version or attempt at being snarky; others might call it inartful, inarticulate, offensive, bigoted (or maybe just plain stupid). But the fact remains nobody is going to read your garbage until you apologize. And you doubled down on your inartful statement yesterday - so now you owe two apologies, and a reasonable amount of time to show you have learned from your errors. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:14, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Some Further Errors of Martin Luther: Error #3, we can commit adultery and murder 1000 times a day without imperiling Salvation

So error 1 was (1) St. James is an Epistle of Straw, and not inspired, and "Jimmy" should be thrown into the stove, (2) Error 2 was that Christ allegedly committed adultery 3 times, which Lutheran Scholars btw don't deny is in his works, (3) Error 3 is now that we ourselves can allegedly also commit adultery not just 3 times but even 1000s of times a day without imperiling Salvation! This man was confused.

Here's the Source, Lutheran/Protestant: "“If men only believe enough in Christ they can commit adultery and murder a thousand times a day without periling their salvation.” — MARTIN LUTHER “This is truly one of the most disturbing things Martin Luther ever said. He would have done well to remember the words of St. Paul, ‘Shall we go on sinning that grace may increase? God forbid it!’ Romans 6:1-2.

I know that Luther is a very important figure for those in protestantism, for those in the cults, and even for secularists, since all of them trace their movements to a great degree to what Luther did.

However, the idea that a person can rape and murder their [sic] way into heaven because they [sic] have ‘imputed’ righteousness should be abhorrent to anyone who has the Holy Spirit dwelling in them [sic]. And I think statements like this should at least make us pause and reconsider whether his influence has been for better or worse.”

From: https://www.gottesdienst.org/gottesblog/2021/6/20/lbf6kdhqbxk3c0ks5ccd5ojvmxtqzy

And see this also: "On Sin

Christ taught: “He that commits sin is of the devil: for the devil sinned from the beginning. For this purpose, the Son of God appeared that He might destroy the works of the devil.” - 1 John 3:8

Luther teaches: “A person that is baptized cannot, thou he would, lose his salvation by any sins however grievous, unless he refuses to believe. For no sins can damn him but unbelief alone.”[17]

"Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides... No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day."[18] ('Let Your Sins Be Strong, from 'The Wittenberg Project;' 'The Wartburg Segment', translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther's Saemmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99, 1 Aug. 1521. - Cf. Also Denifle’s Luther et Lutheranisme, Etude Faite d’apres les sources. Translation by J. Paquier (Paris, A. Picard, 1912-13), VOl. II, pg. 404).)

"Do not ask anything of your conscience; and if it speaks, do not listen to it; if it insists, stifle it, amuse yourself; if necessary, commit some good big sin, in order to drive it away. Conscience is the voice of Satan, and it is necessary always to do just the contrary of what Satan wishes." [19]" From: http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/matluther.htm (Luther, Exposing the Myth). NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:53, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

I dunno; I hope you are quoting this guy out of context, cause it looks awfully close to blaspheme of the Holy Spirit, attributing to Satan the work of God.

how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 21:11, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

I don't expect to have a dialogue with NishantXavier because he doesn't respond to others points because he doesn't wish to. And trying to force someone to be reasonable is a fool's errand.

But for the sake of others, here is the context: Did Luther Really Tell Us to ‘Love God and Sin Boldly’?.

I'm diving deeper into theology and so far, it appears as if I favor conservative Methodism over conservative Lutheranism because it appears to better reflect the biblical view of faith/works and sanctification/holiness better. The Mennonites have some good aspects, but since the historical evidence points to believing in real presence theology in relation to the Eucharist, I can't see myself being a full-bore Mennonite. That being said, I am impressed with the pro-life behavior of the people in the Dakotas (high Lutheran percentage) which appears to be superior to that of the Catholics/Protestants in other states. See: Essay: The Dakotas, the USA states with the highest percentage of Lutherans, are the most pro-life states in the USA. Remember, in Jesus' parable of the Parable of the Two Sons, the son who said he wasn't going to go out in the field and did was seen as more righteous than the son who said he was going to go out into the field, but didn't do it. So it is impressive that the Lutherans in the Dakotas are actually behaving better than the Americans in other states.

I will never become a Catholic due to some of their unbiblical doctrines such as the primacy of Rome and ex-cathedra theology; doctrines related to Mary/saints, unbibibical doctrines on penance/indulgences and other unbiblical doctrines such as purgatory. In addition, the Catholic Church is corrupt and has a history of corruption. Jesus said, "You shall know them by their fruits". For example, NishantXavier dodges the legitimate concerns of Michael Voris about the current problems of the Catholic hierarchy/clergy in relation to promoting and/or engaging in homosexuality.

Michael Voris' YouTube channel ChurchMilitant.com (A very staunch Catholic YouTube channel. ChurchMilitant.com is the website of a Catholic apostolate based in the metro Detroit, MI) recently said on multiple occasions that homosexual clergy/leadership is still a significant problem in the Catholic church as can be seen at Pope's Fraternity Fest Flaunts Semi-Nude Gay Dancer | Rome Dispatch (produced 1 month ago) and Top Cardinal: Don't Blame Gay Priests For Sex Abuse | Rome Dispatch (produced 1 month ago) and Catholic — News Report — Priest Taps Jewish Scholar to Defend Homosexuality (Produced 10 months ago) and The Vortex — It's Homosexuality, Stupid! (produced one year ago) and The Vortex — Homosexual Hierarchy (Produced 2 years ago). Conservative (talk) 22:29, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

I was wrong. Less than 24 hours after "withdrawing" from the discussion, he adds 4,000 bytes of spam. This is the discernable pattern - and fits a textbook definition of bad faith editing. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:51, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Big deal. So the Dakota Lutherans obey the Pope and are in bed with the corrupt Roman Catholic body of Christ. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 22:58, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier told me in the past how spotless/pure the Catholic church is. It isn't. For example, the Vatican hierarchy appears to be a cesspool right now. What Michael Voris is portraying as far as homosexuality within the clergy/hierarchy with real facts is more impressive than NishanXavier's "spotless/pure" zealot/ideologue line. Conservative (talk) 23:08, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Here are other big recent scandals of the Catholic Church: Vatican braces for 2022 deficit as donations drop in wake of financial scandal and Accused Bishop Named Cardinal | Rome Dispatch. Conservative (talk) 23:19, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

In my city, due to all the Catholic pedophilia scandal lawsuits and spiritual bankruptcy, the following happened: the local Catholic diocese went bankrupt due to pedophilia lawsuits; mass attendance is down over 40% from a decade ago; there is a severe Catholic priest shortage so now various churches don't have priests; and the nun population is down 80% since I was child. So now there are a lot of ex-Catholics in my city's Protestant churches.

And today, I picked up a paper in my local grocery and lo and behold, there is Catholic priest pedophilia news on the front page of my cities local news paper.

But I haven't heard of one conservative Protestant church pedophilia church scandal in my city.

NishantXaiver's claims on how holy, spotless and pure the Catholic church is rings very hollow. Conservative (talk) 00:07, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Never interrupt your opponent when he's in the process of self-destruction. He that diggeth a pit shall surely fall into it. Looks like your anti-RobS conspiracy in Essay space is falling on deaf ears. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:01, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

It's not just me, a Protestant, who is finding the Catholic church's behavior wanting.

I cite: "Donations to the Holy See are expected to continue to drop following financial scandals currently at the heart of a high-profile Vatican trial. The institution is tackling an expected deficit of $37 million, according to its 2022 budget projection published Friday (Jan. 28)."[16]

NishantXavier, the pope and the papacy has been weighed in the balance by Catholic parishioners and they have been found wanting! Conservative (talk) 00:13, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Now I understand the superiority of attack over defense. You can't defend your boasting about Protestant cultural legacies, so you go over to attack against me, Nishant, the Roman Catholic Church and its hierarchy. And this all started by trying to recruit Nishant into a pro-Nazi, anti-Putin campaign against me.

As a strategist, you don't seem to think things through, and don't prepare the necessary contingencies. Just attack attack attack, destroy destroy destroy. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:12, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

‘I thank you, God, that I am not like other people—cheaters, sinners, adulterers. I’m certainly not like that tax collector! I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’ “But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’

And I'll even throw in a few cuss words if it'll help to get your attention and focus. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:22, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, NishantXavier and I are closer in theology than you. In terms of justification, neither of us believes in cheap grace theology like you. And we both believe in real presence theology in relation to the Eucharist whereas you do not - despite Ignatius of Antioch a disciple of the Apostle John upholding it (And no early church historical figure is on record of not holding real presence theology in relation to the Eucharist). And we both go to a high church service whereas you attend a low church type service. I think NishantXaiver probably understands various aspects of theology and church history better than you. Conservative (talk) 00:33, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, God is pro-Nazi now, too, I suppose. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:45, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Error #4: The Book of Revelation is allegedly "neither Apostolic nor Prophetic", nor all that good and blessed to keep

"About this Book of the Revelation of John, I leave everyone free to hold his own opinions. I would not have anyone bound to my opinion or judgment. I say what I feel. I miss more than one thing in this book, and it makes me consider it to be neither apostolic nor prophetic...

Moreover he seems to me to be going much too far when he commends his own book so highly [Revelation 22]—indeed, more than any of the other sacred books do, though they are much more important—and threatens that if anyone takes away anything from it, God will take away from him, etc. Again, they are supposed to be blessed who keep what is written in this book; and yet no one knows what that is, to say nothing of keeping it. This is just the same as if we did not have the book at all. And there are many far better books available for us to keep ... I can in no way detect that the Holy Spirit produced it." From: https://www.universitylutheran.church/luther-on-revelation.html

That says more about the spirit that guided you than the Spirit that guided St. John, Luther. Revelation is a blessed book and he who reads and keeps it is indeed blessed, as the writer rightly says.

Probably it was words like these on Good Works, from Lord Jesus Christ Himself, that so offended the misguided Martin Luther.

"Rev 3:4 "You have a few names [d]even in Sardis who have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with Me in white, for they are worthy. 5 He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments, and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels .. 21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne."

Christians are called to overcome sin, not commit adultery or murder 1000s of times a day. Those who do this will receive thrones in Heaven. They will be clothed in white and receive other rich rewards in the Kingdom of Heaven. Once more, Good Works matter, not faith alone. See Revelation 2 also which confirms this point.

Rev 2:23b: "...And I will give to each one of you according to your works."

Rev 2:26: "26 And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—"

Rev 22:7: "7 “Behold, I am coming quickly! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.”"

Rev 22:14 "Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city."

Rev 22:12: "12 “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:10, July 31, 2023 (EDT)

Errors 5, 6 and More of Martin Luther, on Faith and Good Works, on the Peasant Rebellion, on Social Justice etc

This was an Anti-Christian Revolution from Martin Luther to destroy the Priesthood and the Holy Eucharist. Without the Priesthood, you have no Holy Communion. Jesus Christ in John Chapter 6 says you must eat His Flesh and drink His Blood, which is a reference to Holy Communion. Martin Luther is like Korah in the Old Testament who rebelled against Moses and the Priesthood and was condemned by God.

Continued: "Faith and Good works

Christ taught, “Let your light shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your father who is in heaven.”[20]

Christ taught (in the words of St. James) “What shall it profit, my brethren, if a he has faith, but has not works? Shall faith be able to save him? So faith also, if it have not works is dead in itself.”[21]

Luther teaches: “For we account a man to be justified by faith alone, without the works of the law.” – On Translation and on the Intercession of the Saints

“It is more important to guard against good works than against sin.”[22]

"Good works are bad and are sin like the rest." -[23]

“There is no scandal greater, more dangerous, more venomous, than a good outward life, manifested by good works and a pious mode of life. That is the grand portal, the highway that leads to damnation." [24]

“He that says the Gospel requires works for salvation, I say, flat and plain, is a liar.”[25]

Social Justice Christ taught: “Blessed are they that hunger and thirst after justice: for they shall have their fill.”[26]

Luther teaches[27]: “Peasants are no better than straw. They will not hear the word and they are without sense; therefore they must be compelled to hear the crack of the whip and the whiz of bullets and it is only what they deserve.” [28]

“To kill a peasant is not murder; it is helping to extinguish the conflagration. Let there be no half measures! Crush them! Cut their throats! Transfix them. Leave no stone unturned! To kill a peasant is to destroy a mad dog!” – “If they say that I am very hard and merciless, mercy be damned. Let whoever can stab, strangle, and kill them like mad dogs”[29]

“I, Martin Luther, have during the rebellion slain al the peasants, for it was I who ordered them to be struck dead. All their blood is upon my head. But I put it all on our Lord God: for he commanded me to speak thus.”[30]

From: http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/matluther.htm All with unimpeachable references and sources. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:49, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Germany's Peasant Rebellion predated the French Revolution.

The French Revolution was against the ruler of France and partly anti-clerical in nature. Poor economic conditions played a part.

The Protestant reformer John Wesley caused greater Christianization in the UK and spread Christian values in terms of helping the poor. And Protestant values make a country more prosperous. See: Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism. A great many Catholic countries in Latin America plus the Philippines have corruption and poverty.

If the Catholic Church had made French society better, perhaps there never would have been a French Revolution. The French Revolution helped cause the secularization of France and Europe. See: French Revolution and atheism

The Napoleonic Wars (1803–1815) were a series of conflicts fought between the First French Empire under Napoleon (1804–1815), and a fluctuating array of European coalitions. The wars originated in political forces arising from the French Revolution (1789–1799) and from the French Revolutionary Wars (1792–1802) (the War of the First Coalition (1792–1797) and the War of the Second Coalition (1798–1802)), and produced a period of French domination over Continental Europe. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Conservative (talk)

He keeps coming back for more. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:15, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Answer the evil false doctrines if you can, leave the history aside for now. Luther taught Good Works are a sin; he encouraged and incited killings and murders that led to the deaths of 300,000 peasants: "The revolt failed because of intense opposition from the aristocracy, who slaughtered up to 100,000 of the 300,000 poorly armed peasants and farmers.[1]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Peasants%27_War

See also: "In Against the Robbing Murderous Hordes of Peasants he encouraged the nobility to swiftly and violently eliminate the rebelling peasants, stating,"[the peasants] must be sliced, choked, stabbed, secretly and publicly, by those who can, like one must kill a rabid dog."[10] After the conclusion of the Peasants' War, he was criticized for his writings in support of the violent actions taken by the ruling class. He responded by writing an open letter to Caspar Muller, defending his position. However, he also stated that the nobles were too severe in suppression of the insurrection, despite having called for severe violence in his previous work.[11] Luther has often been sharply criticized for his position.[12]" Luther was a very bad man and his Anti-Christian Revolution immediately caused big problems

Most people do not read. They do not study. That's why they fall into Error. They do not learn. They do not Pray. The French Revolutions and Communist Revolutions were even worse Anti-Christian Revolutions but the logical culminations of Martin Luther's Anti-Christian Revolution. The demise and downfall of Western Civilization began with Calvin and Luther. Calvin taught Total Depravity, Limited Atonement, OSAS and other Heresies. Luther was as bad as him and taught various heresies also, including denying Free-Will. Blasphemer he was, worse than Calvin. Only someone who does not love Jesus Christ can say Christ committed adultery, or that we can 1000s times a day.

The Priesthood has been destroyed in the protestant churches. You no longer have the Holy Communion and Holy Eucharist. You must return. "Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My Blood abides in Me and I in him", said the Lord, and this can be done only in the Catholic Church. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:22, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Catholic Church and Charity, Social Justice, Education, Healthcare etc

Catholic Church and Charity: "The Catholic Church operates numerous charitable organizations.

Catholic spiritual teaching includes spreading the Gospel, while Catholic social teaching emphasises support for the sick, the poor and the afflicted through the corporal and spiritual works of mercy. The Catholic Church is the largest non-governmental provider of education and medical services in the world.[1] The Catholic Church has had a long tradition of coordinating charity to the poor, something that was closely linked to the early Christian Eucharist, with the office of deacon being started for this purpose.[2] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_charities Have to write some Conservapedia articles on these. Will do that subsequently as time permits. But these are all well known facts.

Catholic Church and Healthcare: "In modern times, the Catholic Church is the largest non-government provider of health care in the world. Catholic religious have been responsible for founding and running networks of hospitals across the world where medical research continues to be advanced.[28] In 2013, Robert Calderisi wrote that the Catholic Church has around 18,000 clinics, 16,000 homes for the elderly and those with special needs, and 5,500 hospitals – with 65 per cent of them located in developing countries.[2]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_health_care Q.E.D. Attacking Good Works is evil and sinful. That's what Luther did. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:52, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Error #7 could be Anti-Semitic Hatred of Jews, which is very well known. But more on that later

Anyone who has read "On the Jews and their Lies" knows this. Christians must love Jews and minister to them, not be Bigoted Racist Anti-Semites who hate them, as Martin Luther was: "“Set fire to their synagogues or schools,” Martin Luther recommended in On the Jews and Their Lies. Jewish houses should “be razed and destroyed,” and Jewish “prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing, and blasphemy are taught, [should] be taken from them.” In addition, “their rabbis [should] be forbidden to teach on pain of loss of life and limb.” Still, this wasn’t enough." https://www.christianitytoday.com/history/issues/issue-39/was-luther-anti-semitic.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:56, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

The Gospel does require works for salvation, Mr. Martin Luther. Christ teaches that plainly in Matthew 25, where He shows only those Sheep who not only believed in Him but also were fruitful in Good Works will enter the Kingdom of God. Why did the Rich Man in the Rich Man and Lazarus story go to Hell? Because he sinned mortally by failing in the Commandment to love his neighbor and take care of him, though he had plenty of money and this was very easy for him. And why did Christ in the Parable of the Talents sentence one Bad Servant to Hell, while Rewarding Two Others? Because those 2 others did Good Works from the Grace He gave them, and thus merited a Reward. The Wicked Servant refused to do Good Works and thus was justly lost. Luther impiously rejected Merits. When Christ said store Treasures in Heaven by Good Works like Alms-Giving, that's a Reference to the Treasury of Merits that the Saints have stored up by Good Works, and which we're to store up also in like manner: By Good Works. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:01, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

See Tobit on Good Works, Alms-Giving and Laying up Treasure, which the Lord Jesus Christ is referring to. Tobit is a wonderful Jewish Book that was in the Christian Canon for around 1200 years since 4th Century Catholic Church Councils (along with all other 72 Bible Books, 73 in all), before the anti-Catholic and anti-semitic bigoted heretic Martin Luther impiously took it out, thus violating the statement in Revelation not to do that, which Book of Revelation he also rejected:

Tobit 4: "6 And all the days of thy life have God in thy mind: and take heed thou never consent to sin, nor transgress the commandments of the Lord our God. 7 Give alms out of thy substance, and turn not away thy face from any poor person: for so it shall come to pass that the face of the Lord shall not be turned from thee. 8 According to thy ability be merciful. 9 If thou have much give abundantly: if thou have a little, take care even so to bestow willingly a little. 10 For thus thou storest up to thyself a good reward for the day of necessity. For almsgiving delivers from death and keeps you from going into the Darkness. 11 Indeed, almsgiving, for all who practice it, is an excellent offering in the presence of the Most High. 12 "Beware, my son, of every kind of fornication. First of all, marry a woman from among the descendants of your ancestors; do not marry a foreign woman, who is not of your father's tribe; for we are the descendants of the prophets. Remember, my son, that Noah, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, our ancestors of old, all took wives from among their kindred. They were blessed in their children, and their posterity will inherit the land. 13 So now, my son, love your kindred, and in your heart do not disdain your kindred, the sons and daughters of your people, by refusing to take a wife for yourself from among them. For in pride there is ruin and great confusion. And in idleness there is loss and dire poverty, because idleness is the mother of famine. 14 "Do not keep over until the next day the wages of those who work for you, but pay them at once. If you serve God you will receive payment. Watch yourself, my son, in everything you do, and discipline yourself in all your conduct. 15 And what you hate, do not do to anyone. Do not drink wine to excess or let drunkenness go with you on your way. 16 Give some of your food to the hungry, and some of your clothing to the naked. Give all your surplus as alms, and do not let your eye begrudge your giving of alms. 17 Place your bread on the grave of the righteous, but give none to sinners. 18 Seek advice from every wise person and do not despise any useful counsel. 19 At all times bless the Lord God, and ask him that your ways may be made straight and that all your paths and plans may prosper. For none of the nations has understanding, but the Lord himself will give them good counsel; but if he chooses otherwise, he casts down to deepest Hades. So now, my child, remember these commandments, and do not let them be erased from your heart. 20 "And now, my son, let me explain to you that I left ten talents of silver in trust with Gabael son of Gabrias, at Rages in Media. 21 Do not be afraid, my son, because we have become poor. You have great wealth if you fear God and flee from every sin and do what is good in the sight of the Lord your God." https://www.biblestudytools.com/nrsa/tobit/passage/?q=tobit+4:10-21 https://www.biblestudytools.com/rhe/tobit/4.html NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:12, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Looks like Cons stepped in more doo-doo with his pro-Nazi, anti-Putin crusade against me. Can't say he wasn't warned to keep silent about things he doesn't understand. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:32, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Korah in Numbers 16: The Biblical Type/Prefigurement of Martin Luther, with whom the God Who gave the Priesthood only to Moses was severely angry

"Korah, Dathan and Abiram 16 Korah son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, and certain Reubenites—Dathan and Abiram, sons of Eliab, and On son of Peleth—became insolent[a] 2 and rose up against Moses. With them were 250 Israelite men, well-known community leaders who had been appointed members of the council. 3 They came as a group to oppose Moses and Aaron and said to them, “You have gone too far! The whole community is holy, every one of them, and the Lord is with them. Why then do you set yourselves above the Lord’s assembly?”

4 When Moses heard this, he fell facedown. 5 Then he said to Korah and all his followers: “In the morning the Lord will show who belongs to him and who is holy, and he will have that person come near him. The man he chooses he will cause to come near him. 6 You, Korah, and all your followers are to do this: Take censers 7 and tomorrow put burning coals and incense in them before the Lord. The man the Lord chooses will be the one who is holy. You Levites have gone too far!”

8 Moses also said to Korah, “Now listen, you Levites! 9 Isn’t it enough for you that the God of Israel has separated you from the rest of the Israelite community and brought you near himself to do the work at the Lord’s tabernacle and to stand before the community and minister to them? 10 He has brought you and all your fellow Levites near himself, but now you are trying to get the priesthood too. 11 It is against the Lord that you and all your followers have banded together. Who is Aaron that you should grumble against him?”

12 Then Moses summoned Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab. But they said, “We will not come! 13 Isn’t it enough that you have brought us up out of a land flowing with milk and honey to kill us in the wilderness? And now you also want to lord it over us! 14 Moreover, you haven’t brought us into a land flowing with milk and honey or given us an inheritance of fields and vineyards. Do you want to treat these men like slaves[b]? No, we will not come!”

15 Then Moses became very angry and said to the Lord, “Do not accept their offering. I have not taken so much as a donkey from them, nor have I wronged any of them.”

16 Moses said to Korah, “You and all your followers are to appear before the Lord tomorrow—you and they and Aaron. 17 Each man is to take his censer and put incense in it—250 censers in all—and present it before the Lord. You and Aaron are to present your censers also.” 18 So each of them took his censer, put burning coals and incense in it, and stood with Moses and Aaron at the entrance to the tent of meeting. 19 When Korah had gathered all his followers in opposition to them at the entrance to the tent of meeting, the glory of the Lord appeared to the entire assembly. 20 The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, 21 “Separate yourselves from this assembly so I can put an end to them at once.”

22 But Moses and Aaron fell facedown and cried out, “O God, the God who gives breath to all living things, will you be angry with the entire assembly when only one man sins?”

23 Then the Lord said to Moses, 24 “Say to the assembly, ‘Move away from the tents of Korah, Dathan and Abiram.’”

25 Moses got up and went to Dathan and Abiram, and the elders of Israel followed him. 26 He warned the assembly, “Move back from the tents of these wicked men! Do not touch anything belonging to them, or you will be swept away because of all their sins.” 27 So they moved away from the tents of Korah, Dathan and Abiram. Dathan and Abiram had come out and were standing with their wives, children and little ones at the entrances to their tents.

28 Then Moses said, “This is how you will know that the Lord has sent me to do all these things and that it was not my idea: 29 If these men die a natural death and suffer the fate of all mankind, then the Lord has not sent me. 30 But if the Lord brings about something totally new, and the earth opens its mouth and swallows them, with everything that belongs to them, and they go down alive into the realm of the dead, then you will know that these men have treated the Lord with contempt.”

31 As soon as he finished saying all this, the ground under them split apart 32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them and their households, and all those associated with Korah, together with their possessions. 33 They went down alive into the realm of the dead, with everything they owned; the earth closed over them, and they perished and were gone from the community. 34 At their cries, all the Israelites around them fled, shouting, “The earth is going to swallow us too!”

35 And fire came out from the Lord and consumed the 250 men who were offering the incense.

36 The Lord said to Moses, 37 “Tell Eleazar son of Aaron, the priest, to remove the censers from the charred remains and scatter the coals some distance away, for the censers are holy— 38 the censers of the men who sinned at the cost of their lives. Hammer the censers into sheets to overlay the altar, for they were presented before the Lord and have become holy. Let them be a sign to the Israelites.”

39 So Eleazar the priest collected the bronze censers brought by those who had been burned to death, and he had them hammered out to overlay the altar, 40 as the Lord directed him through Moses. This was to remind the Israelites that no one except a descendant of Aaron should come to burn incense before the Lord, or he would become like Korah and his followers." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:26, August 1, 2023 (EDT)

Please keep the references section of our debate page at the bottom of the page

Please keep the references section of our debate page at the bottom of the page. I just fixed it again.

Thanks in advance. Conservative (talk) 04:49, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Noted. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:22, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks. I gave a final post after the post I thought was going to be my final post at: https://www.conservapedia.com/Debate:_Luther,_Protestantism_vs._Catholicism:_Which_is_better%3F#User:_Conservative.27s_response_3

Looking back, I should have focused on my current work instead of rejoining the debate. I am cranking down when it comes to focus, time management, priorities, and self-discipline. In the remainder of the year and in 2024, I am going to work hard on develop Olympian athlete like focus and discipline when it comes to my current priorities. Conservative (talk) 05:59, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Yah yah yah - it's a discernable pattern.

Editor: "Cons, watch out! You are about to step in doo-doo by talking about things you don't understand!"

Cons: "I don't care. I'm friends with the owner of the website," after which he proceeds to step in doo-doo.

Cons: "I'm going to withdraw from discussions in order to focus more on career in the near future. Besides, I have more important things to do with my life than listen to scum like you who haven't changed my mind after I forced both of us to waste days and days of our lives arguing about idiocy." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 11:48, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Re: Debate, Did some final touches

I did some final touches to our debate after a few more additional things came to mind. But I do have a deadline to meet plus I want to launch a new project that will require me to learn some new skills. So I am done with our debate. Conservative (talk)

As you wish. I will add a few more of Luther's comments, like his misogynistic and polygamy-endorsing comments documenting what a bad, bad man Luther was. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 19:05, August 2, 2023 (EDT)

Post mortem analysis: As an independent neutral observer, I will offer some criticism about how User:Conservative answered some of the well researched claims about Martin Luther made by User:NishantXavier.

Instead of following the guidelines User:Conservative recommended here: Conservapedia:Principles of evaluating historical claims and evidence#Fischer's 7 habits of sound historiography, User:Conservative relapsed into his habit of, not engaging in debate or discussion, but spamming the Debate page with unsigned cut n paste spam from his earlier articles and essays. His spam postings do not refute allegations, they are nothing more than whataboutism, which remains the basis of his defense of Protestantism, even after he conceded a major point and reverted a large section of text from his Protestant cultural legacies article. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:43, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

And User:Conservative twice resorted to Godwin attacks, which by his own definition means he automatically lost the debate (twice). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:46, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 15:30, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

His"final touches" means adding more than 30,000 bytes of information (spam) (more than 10% the size of a quarter million bytes in an already over-bloated Debate page with off-topic material from the original subject about the writings of Martin Luther). This should give you some indication about the veracity of his talk page contributions. Instead of being "final touches", you can waste another whole day of your life with his trolling. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 18:27, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, "off-topic material from the original subject about the writings of Martin Luther"? The name of the debate is the following: Debate: Luther, Protestantism vs. Catholicism: Which is better?. Conservative (talk) 22:49, August 4, 2023 (EDT)Conservative (talk) 22:48, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

I never agreed to participate in such a Debate, yet you forged my signature into that Debate page. And I initiated the discussion here on this user talk page on a different subject - your openly expressed anti-Catholic bigotry.

User:Nishant expressed criticism of Luther & his writings - you doubled down on attacking members of the Body of Christ. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:08, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

RobS, you called Catholicism "a false gospel" as can be seen HERE. Conservative (talk) 23:20, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

Just as Nishant accused Luther of preaching a false gospel. Nishant did not call the body of Lutheran believers "a corrupt joke". Read my posting - that's how you needed to respond to the charges against Luther, citing chapter and verse, as I did, where Luther's critics were wrong. And that's where you needed to use Fischer's 7 habits of sound historiography, beginning with No.5, The meaning of any historical evidence is dependent upon the context from which it is obtained from. That should have been easy enough, rather than going on a 3 day rant against the body of believers about Hitler and gay priests. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:12, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

And your whole 3 day, 265,000 byte spamfest violated Fisher's Rule #2: Historical evidence must be an answer to the question asked and not to any other question. "Not to any other question", i.e. no trolling. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 00:27, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Going to write an Essay: Christianity will reach 3.5 BN Souls by 2050, can reach 5 BN Souls if churches unite with Catholic Church and we all Gather in the Harvest Together for Calvarys Sake

"We cannot care who gets the Credit, as long as God gets the Glory, and Souls are Saved".

The urgent need to fulfill the Great Commission: because 5.5+ Billion Souls live outside the Kingdom currently - and that Number is Too Great, Too Great - should impel us to Full Unity and Working Together. The Doctrinal Issues should be settled from Scripture and the Church Fathers by debates and discussion. But reaching 5 BN by 2050 is paramount. World Population will be around 10 BN at the time, according to best estimates. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:18, August 4, 2023 (EDT)

For the record relating to your above post and our previous debate relating to Protestantism vs. Catholicism

For the record, in the past I shared the User: Conservative account with a friend who studied Christian history as a Christian layman (He particularly studied early church history).

At this point, I don't consider myself to be a Protestant, Catholic or Eastern Orthodox Christian. I just consider myself a Christian. However, I do consider many nondenominational churches (who tend to be Protestant in their theology) to be shallow. I believe in what a majority of Christians believed at the time of the Council of Chalcedon which occurred in 451 A.D. (See timeline above).

In 2023, and especially in recent months, I have been having discussions with my friend about the early church. And he recommended that I attend a church in my area that doesn't consider itself to be a Protestant church and instead endeavors to uphold what the early church believed. I have become a member of that church.

So with the above said, I really didn't intend or want to have a protracted debate at Debate: Luther, Protestantism vs. Catholicism: Which is better? that culminated in a list of the worst/baddest popes according to a historian, a Catholic podcast and a Vatican City tourist agency. And I knew before our debate that Martin Luther had his faults and made various errors...

Anyways, I do believe in Christians being serious about fulfilling the Great Commission and knowing more about Christian apologetics and I am involved in some projects relating to these matters.

And as far as our disagreement which started offline in a more cordial nature, it serves as an example of how disagreements can escalate if you allow them to. Fairly recently, I said I was not going to get involved in any more internet drama/conflicts (This was partly due to some interaction I recently had with a factious individual). My time would have been better spent focusing on the projects that I am working on related to the Great Commission and Christian apologetics. Conservative (talk) 08:46, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks for explaining your perspective. Let's continue to keep things as cordial and pleasant as possible, and work together where we can. I'm going to start that Essay now which will aim to make the case that, the past notwithstanding, since anyway that is not in our power to prevent, the future can be wonderful if we but unite and work for it. I will make the case that 1 BN or so Souls will or won't enter the Kingdom according as we - or must of us - Christians aim to pursue Full Unity in a Single Church so we can all share in Eucharistic Communion with Faith in the Real Presence. The bare minimum essentials would be (1) Divinity of Christ as Lord and Savior, and His Death on the Cross for our sins (2) The Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Holy Eucharist. If we believe this, we can unite. Then, we can work together. The Percentage of Christians has remained roughly the same or even gone down from like 35%-33% since 1900 because of Church divisions. What I aim to show in my essay is that, if we work together, we can reach 40% by 2033-2035, and maybe 50% by 2048-2050.

God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:02, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Cons: Welcome to the "low" church as a small "c" catholic. Where two or more are gathered in my name, there I am also. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 09:08, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Essay Began: https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Christianity_will_reach_3.5_BN_Souls_by_2050,_can_reach_5_BN_Souls_if_churches_unite_with_Catholic_Church_and_we_all_Gather_in_the_Harvest_Together_for_Calvarys_Sake NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:51, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Feedback and Suggestions for Improvement of the Essay Welcome

https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Christianity_will_reach_3.5_BN_Souls_by_2050,_can_reach_5_BN_Souls_if_churches_unite_with_Catholic_Church_and_we_all_Gather_in_the_Harvest_Together_for_Calvarys_Sake Taking a break now. Will have some food and check back later. God Bless.

God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:49, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

New Essay: Are there 73 or 66 Books in the Bible - 4th Century Church says 73

https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Are_there_73_or_66_Books_in_the_Bible NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:19, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

Thoughts on my 2 new/recent essays, Rob/Cons/LT, anyone else? All references and sources in the article. I will quote some more passages from 2 Maccabees later on. In the 4th Century Council of Carthage, "two books of the Maccabees" are placed along with: "Of the New Testament: four books of the Gospels, one book of the Acts of the Apostles, thirteen Epistles of the Apostle Paul". They are Canonical Scriptural Writings. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:39, August 5, 2023 (EDT)

And 2 Maccabees also teaches we should pray for the sins of the departed to be forgiven, and offer sacrifices for them, like we would now offer the Sacrifice of Christ's Body and Blood, i.e. The Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:42, August 6, 2023 (EDT)

New Essay: The Body and Blood of the Lord Jesus Christ is a Holy Eucharistic Sacrifice

https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_Body_and_Blood_of_Jesus_is_a_Eucharistic_Sacrifice NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:24, August 7, 2023 (EDT)

New Articles

A Friend/Well-Wisher advised/counselled me to write more Articles than Essays, saying and showing this boosted Conservapedia Google Traffic.

So, I took his advice and, noting that 10/40 Window and other articles were missing, wrote 3:

Persecution of Christians in the world today

Here: https://www.conservapedia.com/Persecution_of_Christians_in_the_World_Today

10/40 Window

Here: https://www.conservapedia.com/10/40_Window

Fertility Rates and Population Projections

https://www.conservapedia.com/Fertility_Rates_and_Population_Projections

I especially like this part, lol: https://www.conservapedia.com/Fertility_Rates_and_Population_Projections#Introduction:_Atheism_is_in_Global_Decline_and_may_well_Abort_itself_out_of_existence_by_2050 Lol. Atheists, given their low birth rates, their lack of Martyrs, and their limited proselytism, will lose. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 07:00, August 12, 2023 (EDT)

re: Age of the earth and other matters you have sent me correpondence about

I am glad you are happy about your new position as far as the age of the earth and some of the evidence related to this matter.

I am sorry I could not reply to your correspondence on this issue and some of your other correspondence, but I got behind in a few off-wiki projects and I am endeavoring to get back on schedule at this time. In addition, I allowed myself to waste my time in a pointless discussion about the alleged importance of April 9, 2022. There is an unhinged man who is obsessed with this date and is adamant that I must agree with him about the alleged importance of this date. Unfortunately, the world is full of self-important cranks who try to impose their unreasonable views on others - even when they are politely told by others that they have no interest in their views.

In addition, I recently established a good rapport with someone who wants to provide a lot of work for me in an area that has some interest to me and there is a big demand for it. The field is growing 15% annually and it is expected to do so for about a decade. I have a previous background in this field and it is an important field that would make me more marketable in a host of fields. I purchased some books relating to this particular subject to brush up on this skill and am in the midst of learning this material.

The bottom line is that I do have a full calendar for about a month or so. Please bear with me in the meantime.

But to be very frank, I am setting the bar higher for me as far as various goals I have set. So I am going to be a busy man until they put me 6 feet underground. :) Conservative (talk) 07:41, August 15, 2023 (EDT)

Ok. Cool. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:36, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

New Article: Y Chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve

https://www.conservapedia.com/Y_Chromosomal_Adam_and_Mitochondrial_Eve NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 02:36, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

You asked for my feedback on this article. In about 30-45 days when my plate is less full, I will give you some feedback on this article. Conservative (talk) 11:15, August 16, 2023 (EDT)

You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page "Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?"

You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page: Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?. Conservative (talk) 05:40, August 19, 2023 (EDT)

I mentioned you in my new essay. Thanks!

I mentioned you in my new essay at: [[Essay: How I found my American patriotism again and began to appreciate the West more]].

Thanks! Conservative (talk) 23:55, August 21, 2023 (EDT)

Nice to know. God Bless, Cons. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:54, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

Prez. Ronald Raegan the Great on Participation in the Eternal Struggle between Good and Evil

"So, I tell you there are a great many God-fearing, dedicated, noble men and women in public life, present company included. And, yes, we need your help to keep us ever mindful of the ideas and the principles that brought us into the public arena in the first place. The basis of those ideals and principles is a commitment to freedom and personal liberty that, itself, is grounded in the much deeper realization that freedom prospers only where the blessings of God are avidly sought and humbly accepted.

The American experiment in democracy rests on this insight. Its discovery was the great triumph of our Founding Fathers, voiced by William Penn when he said: "If we will not be governed by God, we must be governed by tyrants." Explaining the inalienable rights of men, Jefferson said, "The God who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time." And it was George Washington who said that "of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports."

And finally, that shrewdest of all observers of American democracy, Alexis de Tocqueville, put it eloquently after he had gone on a search for the secret of America's greatness and genius—and he said: "Not until I went into the churches of America and heard her pulpits aflame with righteousness did I understand the greatness and the genius of America. . . . America is good. And if America ever ceases to be good, America will cease to be great."

Well, I'm pleased to be here today with you who are keeping America great by keeping her good. Only through your work and prayers and those of millions of others can we hope to survive this perilous century and keep alive this experiment in liberty, this last, best hope of man.

I want you to know that this administration is motivated by a political philosophy that sees the greatness of America in you, her people, and in your families, churches, neighborhoods, communities—the institutions that foster and nourish values like concern for others and respect for the rule of law under God.

Now, I don't have to tell you that this puts us in opposition to, or at least out of step with, a prevailing attitude of many who have turned to a modern-day secularism, discarding the tried and time-tested values upon which our very civilization is based ...

I know that you've been horrified, as have I, by the resurgence of some hate groups preaching bigotry and prejudice. Use the mighty voice of your pulpits and the powerful standing of your churches to denounce and isolate these hate groups in our midst. The commandment given us is clear and simple: "Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself."

But whatever sad episodes exist in our past, any objective observer must hold a positive view of American history, a history that has been the story of hopes fulfilled and dreams made into reality. Especially in this century, America has kept alight the torch of freedom, but not just for ourselves but for millions of others around the world ...

f history teaches anything, it teaches that simple-minded appeasement or wishful thinking about our adversaries is folly. It means the betrayal of our past, the squandering of our freedom.

So, I urge you to speak out against those who would place the United States in a position of military and moral inferiority. You know, I've always believed that old Screwtape reserved his best efforts for those of you in the church. So, in your discussions of the nuclear freeze proposals, I urge you to beware the temptation of pride—the temptation of blithely declaring yourselves above it all and label both sides equally at fault, to ignore the facts of history and the aggressive impulses of an evil empire, to simply call the arms race a giant misunderstanding and thereby remove yourself from the struggle between right and wrong and good and evil.

I ask you to resist the attempts of those who would have you withhold your support for our efforts, this administration's efforts, to keep America strong and free, while we negotiate real and verifiable reductions in the world's nuclear arsenals and one day, with God's help, their total elimination.

While America's military strength is important, let me add here that I've always maintained that the struggle now going on for the world will never be decided by bombs or rockets, by armies or military might. The real crisis we face today is a spiritual one; at root, it is a test of moral will and faith.

Whittaker Chambers, the man whose own religious conversion made him a witness to one of the terrible traumas of our time, the Hiss-Chambers case, wrote that the crisis of the Western World exists to the degree in which the West is indifferent to God, the degree to which it collaborates in communism's attempt to make man stand alone without God. And then he said, for Marxism-Leninism is actually the second oldest faith, first proclaimed in the Garden of Eden with the words of temptation, "Ye shall be as gods."

The Western World can answer this challenge, he wrote, "but only provided that its faith in God and the freedom He enjoins is as great as communism's faith in Man."

I believe we shall rise to the challenge. I believe that communism is another sad, bizarre chapter in human history whose last pages even now are being written. I believe this because the source of our strength in the quest for human freedom is not material, but spiritual. And because it knows no limitation, it must terrify and ultimately triumph over those who would enslave their fellow man. For in the words of Isaiah: "He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might He increased strength. . . . But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary. . . ."

From: https://speakola.com/political/ronald-reagan-evil-empire-1983 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:59, August 22, 2023 (EDT)

New Reasons to be Christian Forum! Please sign up and let's Participate in Internet Evangelism together

"Nishant Xavier Administrator

Posts: 8 View Profile Reasons to be Christian.

Welcome to Reasons to be Christian Forum! « on: August 24, 2023, 11:45:22 am » Hallelujah! Praise Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ! Website over at: https://reasonstobechristian.com/

I have wanted to start both a Website and an Accompanying Forum for some time and now, by God's Grace, we have one up. Non-Christians are welcome to come here and engage respectfully with Christians. For Christians, this is an opportunity both for fellowship with other Christians and debate and discussion with non-Christians. Those interested in Apologetics, Evangelism, the Great Commission and Saving Souls should sign up so we can all work together and help win Many Souls for Jesus Christ on the Internet!

People are welcome to sign up and post and share what they want and ask questions about Lord Jesus etc.

God Bless." https://reasonstobechristianforum.createaforum.com/general-discussion/welcome-to-reasons-to-be-christian-forum!/msg6/#new NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:36, August 25, 2023 (EDT)

Electionbetttingodds.com and DeSantis

As you know, recently I haven't been politics very closely. But every so often I look at the website https://electionbettingodds.com/

In the last part of August, DeSantis doubled his odds of winning the GOP primary as can be seen here: https://electionbettingodds.com/GOPPrimary2024.html

He still has a long way to go though. Conservative (talk) 17:44, August 31, 2023 (EDT)

Those odds will improve with every Debate. I wouldn't put that much stock in them.

You should read this: "Lowry: So you’re like 50 percent on Trump’s chances now?

Rothman: I think he’s 45 percent. I’ve said I take the field, and I still take the field.

Lowry: That’s bold. MBD?

Michael Brendan Dougherty: I’m totally with Noah. I think DeSantis is either 40 or 45 percent for the nomination. I think Trump is 40 percent."https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/does-desantis-have-a-45-percent-chance-of-winning-the-republican-nomination/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:37, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

Continued: "Lowry: You think DeSantis has a higher chance of winning than Trump?

Dougherty: Yeah, I think, Trump’s indictments weigh on him. I think that there is just air coming out of the Trump balloon. I think that Iowa and New Hampshire are determined to give someone a ride up, to give Trump a real challenge. And once that happens, I really think all bets are off and all of Trump’s downsides start weighing on the Republican voter. I do believe in some kind of inherent value that it’s not just an illusion created by the willfulness of Republican sentiment — Republican sentiment does follow the news and does have some relationship to who are the strongest candidates. And so I would rather be DeSantis right now, when you have his money and his organization, and now any rise is going to create a comeback storyline.

Lowry: Right. Noah wrote about that.

Rothman: I wrote that, yes, because the press has set so absurdly low expectations for him that they’re not hard to meet.

Dougherty: Right, and it’s just like, and not only that, but like, in effect, he’s already surpassed them because . . .

Lowry: He’s survived.

Dougherty: He’s survived, and the polls say that 85 percent of people in Iowa who say they support Trump in the race, say they’re considering supporting DeSantis." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 03:43, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

The betting markets have a better track record at predictions than pundits. Conservative (talk) 07:01, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

One should make 1 Prediction and stick to it. See this: "De Santis overtakes Trump in Poll "After the five-day convention—which included speeches from Texas Governor Greg Abbott, Florida Congresswoman Kat Cammack and former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake—36.6 percent of the attendees indicated that they wanted to see DeSantis as the next Republican presidential candidate. Trump trailed with 35.4 percent of the vote."

https://www.newsweek.com/ron-desantis-overtakes-trump-poll-1823863 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:30, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

Testimony: I Found Fulfilment in Christ's Church

https://youtu.be/4x_BcH7d4Z0 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:11, September 1, 2023 (EDT)

The humorous essay I told you about

Nishant,

Here is the humorous essay that I told you about: [[Essay: Vladimir Putin understimates small opponents - big time!|Vladimir Putin understimates small opponents - big time!]].

I hope that you enjoy it. Conservative (talk) 19:45, September 8, 2023 (EDT)

India booms, China cools: What does it mean for the rest of the world? Go India! India! India! India!

• India booms, China cools: What does it mean for the rest of the world?. It would be great to see the state atheism of China disappear due to the Chinese Communist Party being thrown out or disappearing.

Thank God a democracy like India is booming and the authoritarian country of China is showing signs of declining. Conservative (talk) 12:40, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Nice! Thanks for sharing. I hope for a US-India Democratic Alliance, which I think would be good to counter Non-Democratic Commie China. But yes, this is nice to see. It shows Democracy can truly create a pathway to Prosperity through education and hard work, and being from India, I am happy about it. I would credit Manmohan Singh who first as Finance Minister then in 10 years as PM helped India to grow fast. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:46, September 11, 2023 (EDT)

Request for feedback on my essay Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?

I wrote the essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]

I give 4 major reasons why this happened. Can you think of any other major reasons?

If so, please post them at: [[Talk:Essay: Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]

If I like them, I will add them to the essay.

Thanks! Conservative (talk) 13:44, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, it's like my father-in-law told my wife when we first met, "Don't get mixed up with this guy." RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 14:33, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Hi Cons, will take a look, thanks.

Hi Rob, lol, did he really. Why did she/your wife then decide otherwise? I think you're glad she did! Anyway, good for you, Rob. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 18:42, September 12, 2023 (EDT)

Rapture: Post-Tribulation or Pre-Trib: The Biblical Evidence

https://reasonstobechristianforum.createaforum.com/general-discussion/rapture-post-tribulation-or-pre-trib-1-thess-4/msg41/?topicseen#msg41

Started a thread on my Forum to discuss the Rapture. Imo, the Biblical Evidence is simply overwhelming: The Rapture is Post-Tribulation. In fact, it is Post-Resurrection. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 12:24, September 16, 2023 (EDT)

What are the best web articles in favor of the Apocrypha being in the biblical cannon?

What are the best web articles in favor of the Apocrypha being in the biblical cannon? I recently bought a Bible with the Apocrypa in it. And the last church service I attended had a reading from one of the books in the Apocrypha - namely the Book of Sirach.

I plan on studying this issue in 2023. Conservative (talk) 06:26, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

P.S. I originally posted this on LT's page, but I wasn't sure if you would see it there. Conservative (talk) 06:27, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

P.S.S. I will be studying the faith/works issue next month or possibly earlier. Then I will do a topical study on the fruit of the fruit of Spirit self-control plus memorizing Bible verses on this topic. I bought a few books on Bible memorization. I also have the book Control Yourself!: Practicing the Art of Self-Discipline by D. G. Kehl. Conservative (talk) 07:05, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

The Old Testament Apocrypha belongs to the category of "Jewish myths" Paul disparagingly referred to in the Epistle to Titus. (Titus 1:12–14) —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Wednesday, 09:54, September 20, 2023 (EDT)

Hi Conservative, I answered on LT's page, but pls check the below out also: "Because the Old and New Testament Scriptures are the divinely-revealed, written Word of God, Catholics venerate the Scriptures as they venerate the Lord’s body. But Catholics do not believe that God has given us His divine Revelation in Christ exclusively through Scripture. Catholics also believe that God’s Revelation comes to us through the Apostolic Tradition and teaching authority of the Church.

What Church? Scripture reveals this Church to be the one Jesus Christ built upon the rock of Saint Peter (Matt. 16:18). By giving Peter the keys of authority (Matt. 16:19), Jesus appointed Peter as the chief steward over His earthly kingdom (cf. Isaiah. 22:19-22). Jesus also charged Peter to be the source of strength for the rest of the apostles (Luke 22:32) and the earthly shepherd of Jesus’ flock (John 21:15-17). Jesus further gave Peter, and the apostles and elders in union with him, the power to bind and loose in heaven what they bound and loosed on earth. (Matt. 16:19; 18:18). This teaching authority did not die with Peter and the apostles, but was transferred to future bishops through the laying on of hands (e.g., Acts 1:20; 6:6; 13:3; 8:18; 9:17; 1 Tim. 4:14; 5:22; 2 Tim. 1:6).

By virtue of this divinely-appointed authority, the Catholic Church determined the canon of Scripture (what books belong in the Bible) at the end of the fourth century. We therefore believe in the Scriptures on the authority of the Catholic Church. After all, nothing in Scripture tells us what Scriptures are inspired, what books belong in the Bible, or that Scripture is the final authority on questions concerning the Christian faith. Instead, the Bible says that the Church, not the Scriptures, is the pinnacle and foundation of the truth (1 Tim. 3:15) and the final arbiter on questions of the Christian faith (Matt. 18:17). It is through the teaching authority and Apostolic Tradition (2 Thess. 2:15; 3:6; 1 Cor. 11:2) of this Church, who is guided by the Holy Spirit (John 14:16,26; 16:13), that we know of the divine inspiration of the Scriptures, and the manifold wisdom of God. (cf. Ephesians 3:10)."

https://www.scripturecatholic.com/catholic-faith/ NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:16, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

By the way...

...RobSmith removed our debate from Talk:Main Page and moved it to the community portal. Just thought I should mention in case you still want to continue the discussion there. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 21:07, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Yeah, ok, I saw it there. Will respond in due time. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:19, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Alright, sounds good. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 23:28, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

NT References to the Deuterocanonicals

All 73 Books were in the 4th Century Church Canon and belong there https://www.scripturecatholic.com/deuterocanonical-books-new-testament/

"Matt. 16:18 – Jesus’ reference to the “power of death” and “gates of Hades” references Wisdom 16:13.

Matt. 22:25; Mark 12:20; Luke 20:29 – Gospel writers refer to the canonicity of Tobit 3:8 and 7:11 regarding the seven brothers.

Matt. 24:15 – the “desolating sacrilege” Jesus refers to is also taken from 1 Macc. 1:54 and 2 Macc. 8:17.

Matt. 24:16 – let those “flee to the mountains” is taken from 1 Macc. 2:28.

Matt. 27:43 – if He is God’s Son, let God deliver him from His adversaries follows Wisdom 2:18.

Mark 4:5,16-17 – Jesus’ description of seeds falling on rocky ground and having no root follows Sirach 40:15.

Mark 9:48 – description of hell where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched references Judith 16:17." NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 21:19, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Cooperative editor

Thanks for signing up for Team CP. We need a userbox that members of the Cooperative Editors of Conservapedia Society can post on their user pages. Do you know how to make a userbox? RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:18, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

I'm alright with basic template coding, so I can create one. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 23:28, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

Good, thank you. As a soon-to-be fellow Conservapedia Cooperative Editor I hope, I wish to express my profound appreciation for your willingness to help others. Thank you. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 23:35, September 21, 2023 (EDT)

No problem; template created: Template:User Team CP. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 00:55, September 22, 2023 (EDT)

NishantXavier, thank you for your recent effort to increase CP civility. Conservative (talk) 15:54, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

He's not serious; he refuses to take the pledge. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:02, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

See what I mean? He's politely asked to stop removing discussion threads from user talk, and what does he do? He removes it. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:26, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

That is his own user mail page. He has the right to remove discussions from his own talk pages as he wishes. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 19:31, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Sure he does. Yes. IMO, I think it's rude (unless it's trolling). But your posting obviously was polite and in good faith. Other editors see that he didn't leave it, he didn't Archive it, just reverted it. So they don't bother trying to communicate with him because they don't want to be treated like a cockroach, either. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:35, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

See what I mean? Here he engages in shameless self-promotion, citing Lewis Black as having helped advance his career. When I make suggestions or offer to help to hide his conflict of interest, he treats me like a conckroach. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

The failure of the Chinese Communist Regime and its economy appears to be happening faster than I thought and I think it will accelerate. I think I will look at geopolitics again in 2028 instead of 2030

I know that you are not a big fan of China/Putin. I did some additional research and it appears as if China will economy will unravel faster than I thought. Of course, this is bad news for Russia (See: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines and China's economic decline will contribute to Russia's decline).

I am going to send you a video that you will find interesting.

Also, I updated the essay: [[Essay: The rising rule of communist idiocracy in China|The rising rule of communist idiocracy in China]]. Please see: [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_rising_rule_of_communist_idiocracy_in_China#China_has_likely_peaked_arguments China has peaked arguments].

In the fairly recent past, a China cheerleader recommended that I watch some video on why the news reports are too negative about China. I watched a few minutes of it before it became very apparent that it was leftist lunacy. While some reports of China's economic problems and their implications are exaggerated, I have updated my opinion about how fast China will decline. I think I will look at geopolitics again in 2028. Conservative (talk) 15:52, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

NX, Remember what my father-in-law said. This guy just loves to latch onto internet users and troll people. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:03, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

He befreinds people online and look at the nasty things he writes about them: Category:RationalWiki. Imagine the number of hours he put into that (he recently spent 91 hours over 6 days trolling me, or 15+ plus hours per day). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:14, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Now this part, I partially concur with. While his diatribes against RationalWiki are understandable since they have doxxed and heavily vilified him on the internet, his sheer devotion to mocking them here on Conservapedia, especially giving the impression of singling out one particular admin there who was harmless, was pointless when you take into account the quality of those pages. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:35, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Yesterday he contacted a dozen editors trash talking Team CP. [17] RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:18, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Trash-talking Team CP? That's a mischaracterization. He was criticizing how you plainly intended to weaponize the "team" to further your own ends, not the concept itself in an objective sense. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 16:33, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

He knows what he's doing. He deliberately sowed confusion about what Team CP is and caused editors thinking about it now to refuse to take the pledge. He want's to live in a dog-eat-dog, Lone Wolf world where everybody is at each other throats, except the few who recognize him as a "high flier in the organization" cause Lewis Black made him so. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:03, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, Conservative is now a Social Darwinist? That's funny. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:15, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

He's a savant with a troubled childhood. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:21, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Using people's traumatic experiences to vilify them yet again, eh? Quite the low bar you'll sink to. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Monday, 17:41, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

I don't vilify him. I just quote him. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:05, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Read the 2 opening sentences of Gossip he added this morning; it has nothing to do with teenage girls or their mother gossiping about each other's sex life. Oh no, it happens in an organization where people who are successful cause Lewis Black and Penn Gillette made them "successful", other people in the "organization" (not neighborhood or church) are jealous and don't recognize his genius.

Most of all, he relishes the fact I'm wasting 2 minutes of my life writing about him. Watch, he will be back to this user page shortly. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:09, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

There is blood in the Chinese economic waters. Capital flight out of China saw a sharp increase. Sales of Russian energy to China will fall

"China suffered a capital outflow of $49 billion in August, the largest since December 2015. Of that amount, $29 billion fled securities investments, including a record-high exit from bonds. Meanwhile, direct investment showed the steepest deficit since 2016." - Yahoo Finance, September 20, 2023. See: Capital flight out of China jumps to the fastest pace since 2015 as economy stumbles

It's not a matter of if Russian fossil fuel sales to China will decline, but a matter of how much and how fast.

Putin's decision to do its Special Military Operation in February 2022 was a big mistake. Conservative (talk) 16:28, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you, Conservative. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 16:38, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

You're welcome.

The whole situation reminds me of this quote: "Though the mills of God grind slowly; Yet they grind exceeding small; Though with patience He stands waiting, With exactness grinds He all." - Henry Wadsworth Longfellow Conservative (talk) 16:49, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Wud I tell ya? He's trolling you already. He's got you targeted already. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 16:59, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Nishant, as far as good faith editing goes, watch how many times he's said he wasn't going to write on politics or geopolitics (cause his arguments get destroyed on discussion pages) til the end of the year or until the year 2030, and is back in 24-48 hours. That simply is not good faith.

And now he's trolling your talk page despite having pledged not to write on politics (at 3 times in the past two weeks - which he cuts and pastes all over the place). RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 17:18, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Conservative wrote a Hugely Popular Article for Conservapedia on Atheism - https://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism - which has over 7 MN views. Those are good fruits, so I won't agree with those who are claiming this or that against him, Rob. I suggest we all get back to our areas of expertise and strength in producing Great Content for Conservapedia, and helping it across the 900 Million mark soon. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 17:56, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

That was 16 years ago when CP first started. The numbers haven't moved much since. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 19:21, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

My knowledge of geopolitics is certainly trumping someone's knowledge and wrongheaded notions who has been following geopolitics for a number of years. China's current economic unraveling and the problems it will cause Russia is evidence of this. Instead of being very mad about this, I think he should carefully read my essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-appointed geopolitics experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]. If he tried to falsify his political notions and kept a record of the times he was wrong, he might be improving his understanding of geopolitics instead of plateauing or moving backward. Conservative (talk) 19:16, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

Oh yah, I forgot. You're the [[Machiavellianism (psychology)|Machiavellian]] realist, student of Karl Haushofer, and CP's resident geopolitical expert.

Nuff said. RobS^{Give Peace a Chance!} 20:09, September 25, 2023 (EDT)

A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith

Nishant, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:

Andy and DavidB4,

Less than a month ago, we had an "Articles for Deletion" vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted.

With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also.

Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content.

Sincerely,

User: Conservative

I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. Conservative (talk) 04:27, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine

At Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine please vote in the following manner:

This is a time wasting revote. There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. User: RobSmith lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.

Your vote on this matter would be very helpful. Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later.

By the way, this is what RobSmith recently said about capitalism:

"Fascism is both socialism and capitalism; and User:Conservative is glad to have Karajou back to defend User:Conservative's brand of "capitalism". RobSGive Peace a Chance! 22:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)"

Thank you very much for your past editing at Conservapedia. Conservative (talk) 08:59, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

I can affirm this is 100% true; the evidence can be seen here.

By the way, NishantXavier, in that same section on my talk page I just linked, RobSmith claims that you briefly were inactive from Conservapedia because Karajou returned, and that was somehow my fault. Is this true? —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 09:01, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Hi LT. There were certain reasons for my inactivity, but Karajou returning certainly wasn't one of them. May be more active post this weekend. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 09:27, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Thank you for your vote. When I saw your vote, I played some celebratory music. Tremaine Hawkins - Gospel Funk Nation!. Conservative (talk) 09:38, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Oh, I see; the thing is that RobSmith says it was my fault that you briefly left, as if I drove you out; so he lied after all. Anyways, glad to hear you may be more active very soon; while we may strongly disagree in debates (I suppose our hotheaded discussions is due to our likely relative similarity in age and thus like-minded youthful zealousness, given us being on opposite sides of eschatology), it's interesting to hear your viewpoints nonetheless. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 09:51, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed, LT. God Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:23, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Thanks; may the Lord bless you with the true light likewise! —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 10:30, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Bible Verses establishing/proving the Deity/Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ: New Forum Post

Hope to get to a 100 verses, possibly in time for Christmas. Started off below with John 1:1-3.

"This thread is to provide Biblical Evidences/Proofs of the Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, namely that He is (1) the Son of God (2) God (3) True God, (4) the Lord, etc. It can be useful in spreading the Gospel to (1) Jews (2) Muslims (3) JWs (Jehovah's Witnesses), (4) Arians etc. When providing a proof, please continue the numbering from the verses already provided by others. I'll start off with a few.

"I. John 1:1-3 - Saint John the Apostle explicitly declares that Jesus Christ is God and created all things "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

These verses clearly declare: (1) Jesus Christ was and is the uncreated Word of God, was with God in the beginning, and was God. (2) Jesus Christ is the Beginning and End of all things, He has no beginning, and was with God in the beginning. (3) Jesus Christ is the Creator of all things; now, to be uncreated Creator of all things is to be God, therefore Jesus Christ is God.

Q.E.D.

Please share your own verses. I will add more references and verses as we go along. May Christ Almighty bless you."

https://reasonstobechristianforum.createaforum.com/general-discussion/bible-verses-establishingproving-the-deitydivinity-of-lord-jesus-christ/msg47/#msg47 NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:23, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Agreed, Arianism is a heresy (perhaps JWs are Arian?). Now, according to Prof. Veith, the Vulgate, from which the Jesuitist Douay–Rheims Bible derives from, is itself actually Arian. —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Tuesday, 10:29, October 3, 2023 (EDT)

Please comment on my motion

Please comment in support of my motion at: Conservapedia:User complaints#Endorsements. Thank you, MayGodBless (talk) 20:36, October 9, 2023 (EDT)

Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia.

Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia:

• [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]

Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! Conservative (talk) 12:50, October 18, 2023 (EDT)

Please read: [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]

I think you'll like this essay I wrote

See: [[Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]] —LT ^{Rev. 22:13} Friday, 08:42, October 20, 2023 (EDT)

Now I know why someone wants to be a tyrant and greatly restrict my online reading! It's not ever going to happen!

See also: [[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: "Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!"|Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: "Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!"]]

Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: "Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet!"

On October 20, 2023, The Financial Times, reported:

“

The letter of Mergen Mongush from Moscow (“Not the Kremlin line, but an ordinary Russian’s view”, October 7) is very misleading. Most desirable high-end retail products in Russian shops are well beyond the purchasing power of the vast majority of Russians outside of Moscow and St Petersburg, as totalitarian Russia has the highest wealth disparity of any large country. The wealth of Tatarstan, Tyumen and many other areas is funnelled to a small elite of Russians in cities that are not producing this wealth, while these regions remain impoverished. When, for example, Russian troops invaded at Irpin and Bucha, close to Kyiv, they were shocked to see, in ordinary Ukrainian homes, huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, internal toilets and other goods that are luxuries for them. So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia. There are many photographs of Russian military vehicles carrying Ukrainian toilets, washing machines, etc back to Russia — and lots of jokes were made about this, but the failure of Russia to care for most of its own population and instead create huge wealth disparities is a serious matter. Russia may have greater wealth as a country, but most Ukrainians live better than the average Russian.

”

Financial Times, 2023: "When, for example, Russian troops invaded at Irpin and Bucha, close to Kyiv, they were shocked to see, in ordinary Ukrainian homes, huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, internal toilets and other goods that are luxuries for them.

So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia."

I trust this clarifies matters. Conservative (talk) 17:39, October 23, 2023 (EDT)

Invitation

You are invited to join a true conservative organization at: [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association]]. Please sign up. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 12:13, October 28, 2023 (EDT) === Your user page would look great with this item on it === Please join the [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association]]. Your user page would look great with the below item on it: {{Userbox |border-c=#000 |border-s=1 |id-c=#fff |id-s= |id-fc= |info-c=#99CCCC |info-s=13 |info-fc=#000 |id=[[File:Icon-team.jpg|80px]] |info=<center>'''This user is part of the [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association|CP Civility Association]].'''</center> }}<noinclude>

Sincerely,

User: Conservative Conservative (talk) 14:27, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

Hi Conservative and God Bless. Done. Lord Bless. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 20:17, October 28, 2023 (EDT)

In terms of international relations, it's great that India leans more towards the United States than China

I just read the article below and it reminded me of the fact that in terms of international relations, it's great that India leans more towards the United States than China. Of course, this is not suprising given India's border dispute with China and the fact that India is a democracy.

In terms of countries each countries GNP and the adding of the GNP of countries that are allies of the United States or lean to the United States as opposed to countries that are allies of China or lean towards China, the U.S. holds an advantage in terms of economical dominance and this state of affairs could continue for the foreseeable future (See: The US retains the economic advantage in its rivalry with China. America and its allies remain more united and economically powerful than Beijing’s group of allies, Financial Times, November 29, 2023). Conservative (talk) 04:43, November 29, 2023 (EST)

(a) India is independent, and implying it is another Western vassal state is insulting;

(b) India specifically told the US to take a hike when it refused American demands and efforts at blackmail to impose sanctions;

(c) China is one of India's biggest trade partners; India "leans more" toward China than the USA or West;

(d) India is, and has been for a very long time, a Russian client state for military hardware; India is not a client state of the US military industrial complex and its NATO junk;

User:Conservative; You should learn from this. It's typical neocon bs propaganda. They have to lie and exaggerate to cover up the fact that the US-led world ain't what it used to be by pretending that India is part of a military-trade alliance with the West. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 12:05, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Let's take the China-India border dispute, for example: this is entirely a local dispute between residents on both sides of the line of contact (it's a miniscule population in a very remote part of the world) To both sides credit, India and China, the central governments have kept this a localized dispute since 1962 without allowing racial and ethnic hatreds to spread throughout their countries. But no, the boneheads in the US State Dept, at the Financial Times, and yourself seek to exploit the dispute and blow it up (with nationalist and ethnic hatreds) into something far bigger than what it is in order to "divide and rule". Thankfully, both the Chinese and Indian government, and both the Chinese and people of India, are not that stupid and naive as User:Conservative is when it comes to the field of international relations. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 12:27, November 29, 2023 (EST)

Countries that are nonaligned/neutral or generally nonaligned/neutral do take sides occasionally in particular matters. For example, Switzerland, which historically is a pretty neutral country, chose to give aid to Ukraine recently (See: Swiss neutrality).

India was a nonaligned country, but now although it is an independent thinking country it now sees nonalignment as a former period of India's history. "In July 2020, India's External Affairs Minister Subrahmanyam Jaishankar said during an interview; "non-alignment was a term of a particular era and a particular, shall I say, geopolitical landscape" (See: India and the Non-Aligned Movement).

Although India is no longer nonaligned, it is an independent-thinking country. For example, India will continue to maintain ties to both Russia and the West amid the war in Ukraine. And given that you merely claimed I implied it was a vassal state, you clearly are aware that I did not call it a vassal state.

The Sino-Indian War of 1962 and various subsequent border clashes indicate that although India and China are not at war, the relations between India and China is not as peaceful/cordial as relations between the USA/Canada.

There is no denying that although India is an independently thinking country, it does lean more towards the USA than China [[Essay: The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?|in our current bipolar world that is not a multipolar world]]. For example, I cite this article: S Jaishankar says era of non-alignment gone, as US, Indian warships conduct joint drills.

India is smart to lean more towards the USA than China given China's recent aggressiveness on the high seas and given China's recent economic troubles and its demographic crisis (See: [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power]]). Conservative (talk) 19:49, November 29, 2023 (EST)

You have no idea what you are saying or what you are talking about. All you are doing is regurgitating neocon globalist talking points.

Implying India somehow favors the West or United States over China is insulting and derisive of India. its people, its government, and its foreign policy. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 19:59, November 29, 2023 (EST)

The thing I find most amazing is the consistent timeliness of User:Conservative's insightful geopolitical observations: The Anglosphere, Not India, Is To Blame For Troubled Bilateral Ties. RobS^{Get thee behind me, Satan} 05:22, November 30, 2023 (EST)

Upcoming demographic winter, fertility rates of various countries and the average fertility rate of Christians in the world

I wrote an essay that I think you will be interested in at: [[Essay: The coming demographic winter|The coming demographic winter]]

The essay covers topics such as: the upcoming demographic winter; fertility rates of various countries; the average fertility rate of Christians in the world and fertility rates of religious people.

For evangelism purposes, Africa, India and the Philippines are potentially good places due to their fertility rates. Conservative (talk) 10:49, December 20, 2023 (EST)

Thanks. I look at fertility rates only in this sense. Christianity is at 2.6 BN, and now must race to 3 BN, before Islamism catches up. Islam is at 2 BN. Hopefully, we also reduce the number being persecuted, from 360 MN, to 300 MN or less by 2033, when the 3 BN target is feasible. But as to how much a Country is Unevangelized, religious demographics by percentage breakup may be more helpful. For e.g. India is officially at about 3-4 Crore or 30-40 Million Christians out of 1.4 BN people, for a 2% Christian demography. It's the best place in the world to Evangelize in my opinion, and anyone with a heart and passion for Evangelism could try out his hand here. Especially in the South where there's Religious Freedom too, unlike in the North presently. I'm working hard for Rahul Gandhi in May-Jun 2024, so that thereafter all of India will have Religious Freedom if he becomes PM, just like all of America will have Christian Supremacy if RonDeSantis becomes Prez. Of course, we are not going to persecute adherents of other religions, like they do to us, but we can stop bad people from persecuting us. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 05:30, January 2, 2024 (EST)

It involves many factors: fertility rate, religious retention rates, evangelism amounts (both online and offline), religious switching rate (affected by amount of religious freedom and religious pluralism in a country); religiosity/holiness/fervency of a Christian/religious population; and life longevity of religious populations (The longer a person lives, the longer they can tell others about their faith). Conservative (talk) 06:36, January 2, 2024 (EST)

Ok. Mostly agreed. We have a group on Twitter where we're praying/planning/strategizing to get Christianity beyond 3 BN by 2033, mostly by Evangelism. Fertility Rates etc are beyond our control, unless of course we choose to get married and have lots of children etc. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 10:00, January 2, 2024 (EST)

Working on my History of Christendom Article

Writing a History of Christendom article. Aiming to cover the 20 centuries in a fair amount of detail. Hope to get 2 MN views for Conservapedia by the time it is done, so around 100,000 views for each Century. I think the series will prove educational/informative.

"2000 Year History of Christendom: The First Quarter 0-500 A.D. is the history of how Christianity became the largest, the most widespread and the most successful Religion in the world, as it is today. This series will cover the great and glorious 2000 year history of Christendom in 4 segments or quarters. This segment focuses on the first 500 years of the common history of all Christians together."NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 01:30, January 13, 2024 (EST)

Public Domain pictures and pictures with generous copyright provisions

Please look at the resources below that are related to gettting your picture upload rights.

Next time we talk, I will talk to you about this matter. Once you understand this issue after we talk, you will be given picture upload rights. As per your request, I did talk to the owner of the website about this matter for you.

• Public domain pictures

https://pixabay.com/

http://www.sxc.hu/

Flickr and Creative commons:

http://www.flickr.com/creativecommons/ (Need to post type of license and link to picture)

http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_to_identify_public_domain_creative_commons_photos_flickr.html (explains how to find creative commons pictures at Flickr)

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page (Need to post type of license and link to picture) - Big selection of pictures.

Some other good sites for public domain images:

• http://www.pdphoto.org
• http://digital.nypl.org/mmpco/index.cfm
• http://karenswhimsy.com/public-domain-images/
• NASA and USGS photos are also in the public domain
• http://teachpol.tcnj.edu/amer_pol_hist/_use.htm

Free clip art:

https://www.clker.com/

https://www.freeimages.com/clipart

• Free clip art

You now have the permission right to upload pictures at Conservapedia. Also, how to compress pictures so your web pages with pictures load faster (Good for SEO)

You now have the permission right to upload pictures at Conservapedia.

If you have any problems, let me know. Conservative (talk) 14:31, January 16, 2024 (EST)

If you want to optimize the loading time of your articles when you add pictures to Conserpapedia atricles compress the pictures before you upload them to Conservapedia

If you want to optimize the loading time of your articles when you add pictures to Conserpapedia compress the pictures when you upload them to Conservapedia.

This will help the SEO for your articles.

Here are some good sites for picture compression:

https://imageresizer.com/image-compressor

• Free picture compression. Conservative (talk) 14:35, January 16, 2024 (EST)

Noted. Thanks. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:53, January 17, 2024 (EST)

Global atheism is shrinking in number of atheists for the first time. And the projection of the number of atheists in the future has been revised downward

Global atheism is shrinking in number of atheists for the first time. And the projection of the number of atheists in the future has been revised downward. See: Decline of the number of atheists in the world

According to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity, the number of atheists in the world is now shrinking and will continue to do so.[18][19]

Data compiled by the Center for the Study of Global Christianity (CSGC) at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (GCTS):

• Status of Global Atheism/Christianity, 2024, in the Context of 1900–2050

• Status of Global Atheism/Christianity/other religions, 2023, in the Context of 1900–2050

This is a good news to hear at the beginning of the year. I predict that 2024 will be the WORST year in the history of atheism! On behalf of all Christendom, I declare total victory! Conservative (talk) 17:09, January 16, 2024 (EST)

Nice! Our efforts are paying off. Keep it up. Ole! Ole! Ole! NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 00:51, January 17, 2024 (EST)

Myself and others, are helping defeat Internet Atheism!!! Let's keep it up, and nail it in the Coffin!!!

Let's imagine the world of the future. It's 2050. There may be 4 Billion Christians. 3 Billion Muslims. That's 7 BN Christians and Muslims for 70% Abrahamic Religions. Another 1.5 BN likely to be Hindus, so 85% from the 3 largest religions. Whither Atheism? For an expected 10 BN World Population, as per the above sources, Atheism is likely to wither from 146,306,000 to 132,930,000! Hallelujah! This is wonderful news! The Lord God Almighty, the Lord Jehovah, is winning, and is having the last laugh against World Atheism. Now, our duty is to ensure that even that 130 MN are not Atheists by then, but that the world has been converted back to the Lord Jehovah, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I cannot think of a better purpose to dedicate the next 25 years of my life to than this, and I invite others to work with me too. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:42, February 28, 2024 (EST)

Nishant Xaivier, there might not even be 132,930,000 atheists in 2050. See: Xi Jinping raises concerns over potential collapse of Chinese Communist Party: Report, Mint News, July 2023. Conservative (talk) 11:32, February 28, 2024 (EST)

Defeating atheism is not the same thing as spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ; even the demons believe, and tremble.. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 13:09, February 28, 2024 (EST)

The demons have faith without love/fruits/works which, as Saint James explains in his Epistle, does not save. We are seeking to convert Atheists to faith in and love for Jesus Christ, which most certainly saves. "But the greatest of these is Love". Anyway, every Atheist coming home to Christ is a cause of great rejoicing in Heaven. "There is rejoicing in the presence of the Angels" when a lost sheep comes home. As Christians, it's our duty to spread the Gospel, and refute contrary errors like Atheism. As that verse puts it: "The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." (2 Cor 10:4-5).NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:08, February 29, 2024 (EST)

Let's reflect on the numbers a little more. 146, let's round it to 150 MN Atheists out of a 8 BN World Population: 1.88% 130MN World Population of Global Atheists, when the World Population is around 10 MN=just 1.3%. If we convert 30 MN more Atheists, then it is 1% or less. Use these stats to demoralize Atheists. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:11, February 29, 2024 (EST)

(ec) Well, I don't hear much love for atheists, which we Christians are commanded to do, from this platform. I do hear a lot of mockery and ridicule. And much of it seems motivated by a spirit of vindictiveness. I don't really hear the gospel being preached to atheists from this platform. RobS^{Zelensky didn't kill himself} 04:19, February 29, 2024 (EST)

Well, love for Atheists first and foremost means desire and zeal for their Salvation and Eternal Happiness in Christ. I have been Evangelizing Atheists on this platform and other forums, but a key part of fighting Atheism is also to show the actual Truth about the decline of Atheism. If Christianity is ever declining, even in a particular country, Atheists are usually quick to highlight it. So much more, if Global Atheism is on the decline, are we right to highlight the fact, and pray and work for more Atheists to come to Christ. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 06:49, March 13, 2024 (EDT)

Cons and RobS: Yours Truly is working on a book called: "Why I believe in Lord Jesus Christ: 25 Reasons to be Christian" to go along with my ReasonstobeChristian.com website and forum. Pls pray for its success. It should be out in a month or so. It examines Atheism, and gives a Dr. Craig style apologetic, with 5 arguments for Theism, 5 for Christianity, and then some more generic Reasons to be Christian. NishantXavier^{For Christ the King} 04:13, February 29, 2024 (EST)