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Debate: Is the Roman Catholic doctrine of grace biblical

You are not debating. You are just spamming. Please stop. Please remove your spam. If you wish to cite scripture and provide external links, it must be relevant to the Debate topic, Is the Roman Catholic doctrine of grace biblical? in a narrative context. This is not an unreasonable request and is a simple courtesy to other debaters and readers of the page. Spamming is disruptive of the Debate format. If you have any questions, please contact me here, on my User page, or on the Debate talk page. Thank you. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 20:19, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

I provided the links demanded at the top of the Debate page to already existing citations of scripture. They are directly relevant to the claim that Catholic doctrine is biblical. --Dataclarifier (talk) 20:25, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Meaningless. If you wish to cite a scripture, and provide an external link to a scripture, it must be in the context of debate. Carpet bombing the page with external links not relevant to a specific point under debate is unacceptable conduct. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 20:30, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Your position in the debate is that the Catholic doctrine is not biblical. They are directly relevant. Visible evidence that Catholic doctrine is overwhelmingly biblical, a claim you stoutly reject in the face of such overwhelming evidence. --Dataclarifier (talk) 20:33, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Then address that specific Antagonist point in debate. Carpet bombing the page with spam is not an acceptable or meaningful response. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 20:36, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

In the forum of the debate this is introductory as presenting the affirmative position. "Here you are ladies and gentlemen. This is the evidence from the Bible for the position that Catholic doctrine is biblical. The debate will offer opinions for and against this scriptural material."--Dataclarifier (talk) 20:39, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

You've provided nothing from the Catechism, which overrides scripture.

It's spam. You have a simple choice, remove the spam and debate in a civil manner, or let me remove the spam and enjoy a short term block. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 20:42, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

I provided direct links to the Catechism with the headings of the table of contents and quote boxes on the page. Links are provided for those who wish to check the material. No one is required to read it. "Eyeballing" the sheer weight of the evidence is effective enough for those who never knew so much of the Bible is used and claimed as support for Catholic doctrine.
It looks to me like you consider your position too weak to stand against such a weight of material so visible that you feel you have to get rid of the evidence. --Dataclarifier (talk) 20:47, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Good! Then make your case in text writing and provide your evidence to back up that specific point without spamming. RobS^{Trump 2Q2Q} 20:52, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

I already did. Every one reading the Debate page can see that in the material posted there. Of course, you can always remove all the evidence and gag me with a block. And no one else will be allowed to see it and judge for themselves which position is the stronger and more truthful and more biblical according to the word of God.. --Dataclarifier (talk) 21:00, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Regrading the potential removal of evidence, I wouldn't worry about RobSmith doing that. —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Tuesday, 21:15, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Thanks for the support. But watch that page!
Peace be with you. Semper Fidelis! --Dataclarifier (talk) 21:19, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

The problem is that the debate page has become too long, and will be hard to watch. If the concern is over potential erasing of revisions, then watch out for Conservative, as he deleted this talk page for no specified reason (as far as I'm concerned). And God Bless, I hope you, your mother, and IndependentSkeptic are all well! —Liberaltears^{May Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!} Tuesday, 21:30, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

He did specify a reason REPEATEDLY. it was to get rid of debates on the talk pages. Shobson20 (talk) 21:59, 24 August 2020 (EDT)