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:While the media will paint Trump as some kind of a bully, they can't get around the fact that Chuck- er, ''Chris'' Wallace was completely inept in attempting to "control" the president from going after Biden. Also, about Biden's mental decline, it seemed to me that he started out mediocre in terms of energy and got somewhat sleepier as the debate dragged on. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">Liberaltears</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 12:29, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
:While the media will paint Trump as some kind of a bully, they can't get around the fact that Chuck- er, ''Chris'' Wallace was completely inept in attempting to "control" the president from going after Biden. Also, about Biden's mental decline, it seemed to me that he started out mediocre in terms of energy and got somewhat sleepier as the debate dragged on. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code><span style="color:black; background:#FFABAB">Liberaltears</span></code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|<sup>May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!</sup>]]''''' Wednesday, 12:29, 30 September 2020 (EDT)
::I bet you masturbate to the thought of Cadet Bone Spurs slapping you across your face with his 2 inch cock, faggot. [[User:LTsSmallPeen|LTsSmallPeen]] ([[User talk:LTsSmallPeen|talk]]) 20:19, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

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The good Dr. Zelenko

I hate to attack PeterKa, who went whole hog for us to test Hydroxychloroquine by adminstering it to his own person as a protective measure against the Wuhan virus infection, but the three studies as presented in the article he cited is nothing better than a doubling down on moronicity.

"Dr. Zelenko, you promised Hydroxychloroquine would work!"

"No, I promised it wouldn't work. Why else would my treatment protocol include two other drugs as repeated back and forth several times by my colleague User:Conservative?"

"But those scientists seemed so dismissive!"

"Republicans like Trump stand in the way of a lot of 'experts' who'd like a stable career in the government, stable that is, in the sense of not worrying each year if the Republican is going to cut the federally- or state-funded largess that would otherwise appear annually on their plates.

"They don't think having no competition is a detriment like we do, but rather their place in the natural order of things. That's why they have no hesitancy at all following on the heels of the Lancet scandal to shoot off remarks that presuppose gross misrepresentations about how hydroxychloroquine is actually used.

"Medical journals too have the loudest voices on the editorial boards directed toward politicizing medicine from the throats of those whose positions and titles are the most determined by what happens in government. Those who are barely affected by government don't stand a chance in developing the same kind of vital interest that the self-proclaimed elites do.

"For example, one of studies Peter's article cites comes from the Scripps Translational Science Institute which received $34 million from United States Government's National Institute of Health (NIH) in 2018.

"You'd think medical professionals and their science media allies wouldn't be petty enough to run a test on the literal sense of what was actually the President's shorthand reference to the treatment protocol I presented, rather than the actual treatment protocol itself that I developed. But you'd only be so much the more mistaken for not thoroughly considering the plausibility of the points I've made."

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 06:17, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Here's another gem from Peter's article by the American Association for the Advancement of Science:

On 5 June, researchers in the United Kingdom announced the results from the largest trial yet, Recovery, in a press release. In a group of 1542 hospitalized patients treated with hydroxychloroquine, 25.7% had died after 28 days, compared with 23.5% in a group of 3132 patients who had only received standard care. “These data convincingly rule out any meaningful mortality benefit,” wrote the investigators, who ended the study early and promised to publish the full results as soon as possible.

An incredulous Dr. Zelenko (and not just me channeling him) replied:

The WHO says hydroxychloroquine is no longer a potential COVID treatment, citing data from Oxford's “Recovery” Trial. #ZelenkoProtocol is 200 mg, twice a day, for 5 days. "Recovery" was 2400 mg the first day.
Are professional researchers accidentally administering TOXIC doses?

Needless to say, the Oxford study only relied on the University's own endowment fund to run the scientific trial to avoid conflicts of interest.

—Just kidding! It was funded by the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, the biggest vaccine funder in the world, whom, having been reported to the United Nations on charges of crimes against humanity, certainly could use an opportunity to raise their profile, and should they come to the rescue by funding the vaccine that cures the Wuhan virus, why that's destiny calling! Unless somebody else develops an effective treatment protocol first.

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 09:14, 28 June 2020 (EDT)

Bill and Melinda Gates died in 2013, haven't you heard? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:29, 28 June 2020 (EDT)
The randomized studies discussed in the Science article did not use zinc because they are responding to Didier Raoult's non-randomized published study, not to Zelenko. Raoult administered HCQ and azithromycin to patients for three days without zinc. Zelenko has not published anything as of yet. I assume he will publish when results from the St. Francis Hospital study are compiled. The governments of India and Brazil are big backers of the Zelenko protocol and may be able to produce relevant results as well. (India has a vested interest as a major exporter of HCQ.) Trump-haters went to the trouble of faking two major studies on this subject, the Veteran's Administration study and the one published in The Lancet. Both of these studies portrayed HCQ as a form of poison. PeterKa (talk) 07:09, 29 June 2020 (EDT)
India has finally weighed in: "HCQ Helps Contain COVID-19 Cases: New Evidence and a Major Retraction." As you might expect from India, this is an enormous study with over 300,000 participants. PeterKa (talk) 10:50, 14 July 2020 (EDT)
Here is Brazil's study: "Among patients hospitalized with mild-to-moderate Covid-19, the use of hydroxychloroquine, alone or with azithromycin, did not improve clinical status at 15 days as compared with standard care." This is a randomized study in the New England Journal of Medicine. PeterKa (talk) 22:38, 24 July 2020 (EDT)

Recent HCQ research

This French paper looked at 29 published hydroxychloroquine studies, took the best 15 of them, and mathematically combined those into a giant super-study, called a "Bayesian meta-analysis." It concluded that HCQ by itself has no statistically significant effect on covid-19. The combination of HCQ and azithromycin increases mortality by 27 percent. There were studies that focused on patients in early stages of the disease, as well as other studies of late stage patients. So that doesn't seem to make a difference.

According to this preprint article, there are two redundant pathways that allow the virus to enter a cell. One uses a receptor called ACE2 and the other depends on the presence of the chemical TMPRSS2. In microscopic images of the virus, you can see the receptors stick out like plants growing on the surface of the virus. HCQ blocks only the ACE2 receptor, so it won't work by itself.

The obvious question is, is there another drug that could block the TMPRSS2 pathway? This French study suggests that zinc may do the trick. Switzerland was using the three-drug Zelenko treatment (HCQ, AZM, and zinc) until the WHO banned HCQ after the bogus Lancet study. The article uses the Swiss data to create a dramatic before-and-after chart. PeterKa (talk) 09:00, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Coronavirus and Vietnam

Here is my latest: "How did Vietnam dodge Covid-19?" I didn't realize that the name of Stephen Cameron, a recently recovered patient, is censored in Vietnam. He is a pilot for Vietnam Airlines, something we're also not allowed to say. PeterKa (talk) 22:37, 30 June 2020 (EDT)

This article can be considered the second part of the series: "Return of the virus." PeterKa (talk) 09:08, 2 August 2020 (EDT)

The fastest way to end the riots

Cut off H1-B visas to any company that funds BLM, Antifa, or any of the other pro-riot groups. "In 2019, five top tech companies — Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Microsoft, and Google — were collectively granted nearly 27,000 H1-B visas, over 30% of the total visas available to private companies." PeterKa (talk) 00:03, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump doesn't have that tool in his chest anymore—at the beginning of the summer, he cancelled them for 2020 altogether. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 00:13, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
In the Chicago Grant Park riot on Thursday you can see the Police were ill-prepared, not wearing helmets while pelted with rocks; that was immediately followed by the Portland reprisal on fed action by burning down the Police union headquarters. It's fairly obvious there is some nationwide strategic coordination. These fools don't realize their Twitter flashmob coordination is all monitored by NSA, as well as their funding and money-laundering activity by Treasury FinCEN. In the new GOP Congress, we'll need Congressional hearings to investigate this latest liberal communist coup attempt against the United States. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 08:42, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Despite exaggerations, fears relieved: surge of FL, TX, AZ cases at last shown to be artifact of skillful flattening of curve toward end of epidemic

"The real story out of Florida is incredible: 150,000 #SARSCoV2 positive tests in the last two weeks, and effectively NO change in either total hospitalizations or ICU use statewide. Case mix? A huge advance in medicine? This is the story real reporters should chase."—Alex Berenson

IOW, just as the cases (some exaggerated) were filling the hospitals, previous cases' timelines coincided to be discharged all during the same short period. This offers no comfort to those still with severe infections toward the end of the Wuhan virus syndrome, but alleviates recent fears of the dangers of overloading hospital capacities as a result of previous prudent epidemial policy measures. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 00:09, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

But expect a slow decline in new cases/fatalities. The curve is flat, remember? VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 00:21, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Also, the Washington Post knows this is its last opportunity to take shots at virtuoso Trump by means of the Wuhan virus. Monday is going to be all hands on deck to play up the false positives as much as they can. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 00:40, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Time for a "New Hong Kong"

Now that I solved America's riot problem, I'm moving on to the Hong Kong issue. With China getting bossy, it's time to organize a "New Hong Kong." Perhaps an island can be purchased from the Philippines for this purpose. I got this idea from writing about Justinian for the Byzantine Empire article. His enemy King Khosrow of Persia created a city in Iraq for Greek prisoners and refugees. The city was called Wēh Antīōk Khosrow. We can translate this name as "Khosrow's Antioch -- way better than Justinian's." PeterKa (talk) 00:36, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Hong Kong is lost - at least in the near term. The current type of economic sanctions imposed by countries against China are not working. The Chinese know that if they give freedom to Hong Kong that other Chinese will want freedom. So the Chinese are hanging tough. And it doesn't appear as if Western countries are willing to implement harsh economic sanctions against China as they do not feel it is in their financial interest.
Militarily, China controls the China Sea. Ships are more vulnerable now due to drones and hypersonic missiles. So the current state of affairs resembles WWII in the Pacific where the victor is the one with the greater manufactoring capacity. And right now, China can produce more ships than the USA.
Maybe Western Countries will get fed up with China at some point and be tougher towards China. If China keeps taking economic bites out of Europe by becoming an increasingly stronger economic competitor, the Europeans could get fed up and take a tougher stand against China.Conservative (talk) 07:27, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
Exclusive: Global banks scrutinize their Hong Kong clients for pro-democracy ties - sources. It looks like the leading banks in the world are taking the Chinese governments side.Conservative (talk) 07:37, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
Every summer in July the CCP politburo bigshots spend a few days at the Beidaihe beach resort where secret closed door future policy directions are discussed. Rumor is Xi is in trouble and faces some tuff questioning. If there is to be a change in Xi's domestic and foreign policy, historically it comes out of the Beidaihe vacation. This is what happened to Mao and Deng. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 08:31, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
"In April 2020, an internal report circulated by the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, a government-affiliated think tank associated with China’s top intelligence agency, contained a grave warning for China’s leadership. According to reporting by Reuters, it concluded that “global anti-China sentiment is at its highest since the 1989 Tiananmen Square crackdown.”[1]
"Last month, France summoned China’s ambassador to protest a publication on the website of China’s embassy that criticized Western handling of coronavirus."[2] When France starts becoming more assertive towards you, that is not a good sign.
The world is starting to get fed up with China due to: the coronavirus pandemic they caused; China's unfair trade policies; their brutal domestic policies towards ideological dissent; cybertheft; their pollution; and finally, their growing foreign politicy belligerence (debt trap financing; military belligerence; rude diplomacy, etc.).
Abraham Lincoln was right. "You may fool people for a time; you can fool a part of the people all the time; but you can’t fool all the people all the time.”[3]Conservative (talk) 09:22, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
Hence the importance of our two new articles: China Cold War and CCP propaganda war. Heads up: the South China Morning Post (scmp) formerly was an one of the foremost authoritative source on Mainland China. No more. It's been infiltrated and taken over by the CCP. We should try to keep these articles updated to feed the Google algorithm, without citing scmp. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:21, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

In the short to midterm, I don't see how the USA could lose an economic/trade war with China if it was determined to win. China sells a lot more to the USA than the USA sells to China.

But I don't see the USA winning a naval war against China due to China being able to manufacture more ships.Conservative (talk) 10:11, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

The danger is fourth generation warfare, China escalating things right up to below all out hot war. Releasing the coronavirus in retaliation for tariffs, etc. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:00, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
After all is said and done, praying that Xi Jinping and/or the CCP are thrown out (or bow out which is unlikely), is a good thing to do. China is making a lot of enemies and China has a lot of debt. Xi Jinping/CCP/China are not invincible.Conservative (talk) 10:36, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
In the short to midterm, China a paper tiger.
"As per Institute of International Finance, China’s total domestic debt hit 317% of its GDP in first quarter of 2020, up from 300% last year, registering a largest quarterly increase. What’s worse, this data under-reports the true picture of China’s indebtedness, since a lot of debt is taken by local governments through financing vehicles that are not reflected in balance sheets. Since 2008, the annual growth in China’s domestic debt has been 20%, which has outpaced its GDP growth. Add to it the political culture of central Chinese leadership being favourably disposed towards local governments that have shown “development” backed by an ever increasing debt burden.
"And China is set to take on more debt as it tries to beat the Covid-19 induced slowdown to increase its spending. With Beijing announcing advance quota of local government special purpose bonds to the tune of 1 trillion yuan to fund infrastructure projects, it is now almost a given that debt at the local level—which is non-transparent and often violates banking rules—is set to balloon further. The move will ensure local government debt will more than double as compared to last year from 1.9 trillion yuan in 2019 to almost 3 trillion yuan this year.
"A banking crisis and systemic collapse of the financial sector are now looming large amidst growing concerns that many of the debts taken at household level and at local government level are at a very high risk of default. This could hit China’s state-dominated financial system hard and unravel the non-transparent financial dealings that have been the hallmark of its growth model. In fact, the extent of regulatory lapses can be gauged from the fact that Ministry of Finance has been forced to call out certain regional governments for illegal fundraising in multiple audit reports. Obviously, the pandemic will slow regional economies and will drive down revenues of local governments, which will limit their ability to repay/refinance previous large amounts of debt, leading to large scale defaults."[4]
Long term, the Chinese have more fire in the belly than Americans to be prosperous.
The USA and China both have a lot of debt and an aging/obese population. The USA/China people need to improve themselves and sober up.Conservative (talk) 11:11, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
And their latest GDP report of 3.2% growth in the second quarter is a bunch of hooey. China does not subscribe to GAAP, and CCP basically owns everything, so ultimately they will quote FDR about their domestic debt and say "we owe it to ourselves". The domestic creditors have no legal recourse in CCP courts to collect what is owed to them. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:32, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Chinese military capabilities

Participants in this new discussion section talk about what the Chinese might do militarily, but the truth is, in general, Chinese weapon systems never work as advertised. Meanwhile, Trump has thoroughly modernized our own military. That would explain why Chinese sabre-rattling, like that done in recent times, often goes ignored. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 13:07, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

China has a 700-ship "Green water" navy; the U.S. has a 400-ship "Blue water" navy. Ss also this recent vid, 3 REASONS CHINESE LIAONING WILL NOT LAST AN HOUR AGAINST USS RONALD REAGAN PROTECTING JAPAN. The sooner it's taken out, the better, so as to prevent China the time of gaining experience and training on how to operate an aircraft carrier. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:29, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

Three Gorges Dam

This has never been mentioned in Conservapedia, and we don't get too many China discussions, so an opportunity to report this probably deserves to be taken: The Three Gorges Dam is no longer safe and is in fact prone to overflow. Its central location means hundreds of thousands of lives are endangered should it fail. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 14:40, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

I made a brief mention on MPR of flooding in Wuhan, but yes, this needs expansion. And in a way it is related to the widespread corruption and mental illness that is the result of a war on morality and higher virtues and standards conducted by athiest Marxists.
The construction of the crumbling dam, and its current management, is merely a continuation of the same bureacratic corruption behind the CCP virus coverup. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 14:54, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
Yes, I do remember you posting that now, Rob. Well, now there's more about it!
I looked at the reports, and yet, while I agree there is a good chance of massive flooding because they didn't dig deep enough, there's also a good chance the dam itself will hold. The reports say "it's reached its capacity", but the truth is that dams are supposed to be built with what's called a "factor of safety"—they take the worst-case scenario and then build the dam to be able to support twice or three-times that amount. But what would prevent that from happening would be if the communists who commissioned the dam had been persistently demanding the impossible while it was being built in terms of speed or cost of materials. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 15:17, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
The only way the dam can hold is by flooding downstream communities, including Wuhan up to the first level of buildings. Some 38 million people have been affected. Do you follow Joshua Phillips? he has a nightly broadcast at 10:30 EDT that goes about 15-20 minutes with important updates on all things China. He usually even supplies links to sources in the description section. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:25, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
No I don't, thanks for the link. It's probably a good idea these days to keep up with China. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 16:48, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
Financial implications if the Three Gorges Dam fails
  • ~350 million people, enormous manufacturing, and a huge portion of China’s GDP below the damn
  • major risk to the pharmaceutical supply chain
  • source materials for things made in India or the US and elsewhere
RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:19, 24 July 2020 (EDT)


Amidst the Democrat riots and coronavirus, WWIII and Cold War II are being overlooked. Time for an update. The PRC in 2020 is way more powerful than the Third Reich or the USSR combined ever were, and presently engaged in the same aggression and human rights abuses. Tensions are ratcheted up daily. The CCP has no regard for the lives of its own people, be it through man made bio weapons, floods, earthquakes, locust plagues, gulags, slave labor, or organ harvesting so long as it aids in clinging to power. In today's world (rather than send an army after Saddam or Hitler as in the past), this is countered with the Global Magnitsky Act.

What is the Global Magnitsky Act? It is modeled after the Magnitsky Act which originally targeted Russian oligarchs. The U.S. controls the vast bulk of international money transfers which are delineated in dollars. When Magnitsky sanctions are placed upon individuals, such as Putin, Ayatollah Khamenei, Kim jong-un etc and their intimate business partners, it makes it difficult or impossible for them to profit from their corruption. Any American who does business with these people faces FBI investigation and harassment (like they attempted to frame Roger Stone and Michael Flynn for). Additionally, U.S. allies such as France, Germany, the U.K., Canada, Mexico, Brazil, etc or corporate entities such Airbus, likewise face sanctions and FBI harassment. So the Global Magnitsky Act has the effect of invoking a world-wide boycott, embargo, sanction (whatever word you choose to use) against targeted individuals from trading in U.S. dollars. (So the law encourages targeted individuals to trade among themselves using something other than U.S. dollars. Fortunately, (a) the amount of trade is fractional compared to the aggregate of global trade, and (b) they are all so corrupt and don't trust each other, making it hard to agree on an honest unit of measure to use as currency between themselves. This explains the spiking gold price; so sanctioned individuals who can't afford gold don't get any slack trading their home currency with sanctioned individuals in other countries).

So what's next? What is the Trump card the U.S. can play to serve the cause of U.S. interests, human rights, and liberation of the Chinese people? If global sanctions were placed upon all 90 million members the Chinese Communist Party, the whole structure of the Chinese government would implode. It won't happen in a day, but the mere threat of talking about this next phase of the scenario is creating open factions in the CCP, and resentment against dictator-for-life Xi Jinping, who can have that honorary title removed by CCP members shortening his life or some other way. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:38, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

In The News - Planned Parenthood

This would be a good article for In The News.

Setback for pro-aborts: Planned Parenthood in New York disavows Hillary Clinton's hero, racist eugenicist Margaret Sanger, and plans to remove her name from a Manhattan Planned Parenthood clinc.[1] --TheNewRight (talk) 12:19, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

I'm surprised that an organization that murders so many black lives would actually admit their founder was an avowed racist. It's hard to find actually honest progressives these days; back then, you could tell that they were honest about their intentions when they put on an ugly white costume to go around lynching people they hate. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Tuesday, 12:49, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

Flashback: Northwest

From what I've read here, BLM may actually be a front for the Communist Party USA. Obama's involvement in agitating the BLM protesters to continue rioting, vandalizing and even targeting the police is making it more and more evident that the usurper in the White House has to be stopped. Northwest (talk) 10:00, 18 July 2016 (EDT)

VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 16:20, 21 July 2020 (EDT)

VargasMilan may be right about the presidential 2020 election. A Trump electoral college landslide may happen

An anonymous poll in Las Vegas taken by a cab driver indicates a Trumpslide in 2020: Betting on a Trumpslide.

I also read this: The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 48% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-one percent (51%) disapprove.[5] This is a significant rise in Trump's approval rating by Rasmussen in recent times.

I think many of the polls may be wrong because the mainstream press wants to rig them and due to shy and sneaky Republican ladies who don't want to admit they are voting for Trump and the "Silent Majority".

Many voters probably believe the coronavirus is going to be solved soon by an upcoming vaccine and they are voting for Trump due to: their pocketbooks; due to the far left having undue influence on the Democratic Party and the incompetent, corrupt and lackluster Joe Biden being the Democrat running for president. The riots and the Democratic governors/mayors responses to them don't help either. I think many people are having lockdown fatigue also.

If the Democrats picked someone more electable than Hillary and Biden, maybe Trump would have never been elected once and possibly twice.

It's very hard to predict the election (Trump is a relentless fighter, incompetent pollsters, swing states, changing/unexpected events, etc.).

The coronavirus is rising in the USA. How much is Trump's fault is hard to know. America has the largest obesity problem in the world and many people with underlying conditions as a result (Obesity suppressing immune systems too plus taxes the bodies system). Americans are very independent and it may be hard to get them to comply with social distancing, masks, etc. The U.S. press does a poor job educating the public as well. I do think America could have done a better job mitigating the pandemic.Conservative (talk) 03:26, 22 July 2020 (EDT)

I promised some people I would spend a whole lot of time on a certain endeavor and pare down my following of politics. This is the last time I comment on politics until at least November 5, 2020. In fact, I am not going to follow political news until November 5, 2020.Conservative (talk) 05:43, 22 July 2020 (EDT)

Christians cannot afford to be indifferent to politics, Conservative. Imo, we have to be very involved in it, as it is part of winning the world for Christ the King. Wherever Christians form a moral majority, that moral majority must vote its values in the polling booth. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:14, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

Thank you and best wishes on keeping your sabbatical (short of desperate Democrats/communists facing prison with nothing to lose attempting a general insurrection, based on a false flag operation, for example. Then it's all hands on deck!) VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 17:59, 22 July 2020 (EDT)
Right-wingers have more guns. You won't need me. :)
Seriously, since 2003 I have been involved in ideological conflict online. I am tired of it. I am taking the advice of The Steve Miller Band: "Lovey dovey, lovey dovey, lovey dovey all the time"!
"There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven: a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot, a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build, a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance, a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace and a time to refrain, a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away, a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak, a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace." - King Solomon (Ecclesiastes 3: 1-8)Conservative (talk) 18:51, 22 July 2020 (EDT)
The hidden Trump vote = record gun sales. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:08, 22 July 2020 (EDT)

Theory as to why Trump shifted his attitude and showed his appreciation for "keyboard warriors" by putting some of their work on his Twitter feed

"The Democrats have made Trump into one of us.
"By attacking him endlessly, they've transformed him from the president to an American citizen facing all the same oppression we do.
"When you think about Trump, the first thing that comes into your mind is his persecution."—Carlos Osweda

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:00, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump has so swollen the minds of activist and hidden socialists with anger by slighting their ideas without their being able to tell how much he's actually examined them, if it all, that they are pushed into thinking the best way to recover ground with the voting public is to extend their usual play of assuming high dudgeon combined with ignoring the facts that make that posture irrelevant, into every possible avenue of prospected advantage.

All Trump has to do is guide them by raising their prospects selectively into areas where these socialists must cross over boundaries of which the voting public won't approve, but of which these same socialists incorrectly think the public's familiarity with their conveniently mistaken political assumptions has caused them to tolerate the hostility that motivates the crossing of those boundaries equally well.

A good example? A respect for law and its responsible enforcement. How could they be so blind? If they can't publicly examine their ideas, they at least deserve to have the closure of seeing Trump feel their pain caused by the dismissal of their ideas in a definite way, even if they have to present the non-self-inflicted component of it on a larger scale than what it is in reality to make sure it happens!

That's the badly kept secret: good sense is the White Whale; the permanent majoritarian victor that underlies all the frustration the Captain Ahab that is cultural Marxism can't slay. The idealists like Starbuck don't know it; the cynics can't depend on it as a rallying point without losing the idealists.

Can we expect another foray against "Western Civilization"? Of course. News events are the cultural Marxists' slot machine. If enough surrogates for good sense are framed as persecutors within a short enough time period with the help of rechanneling that frustration, it will induce the idea that maybe good sense needs to be abandoned as a foundation. Is this possible? So far the principle brought to national attention that those who are favored by the police are actually persecuted by them, has levitated without visible means of such support for months now. As respect for good sense diminishes, respect for histrionics fills the empty space (and the "best" given the right-of-way at the intersection). VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 09:06, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

A lot of Bernie voters frustrated with the system are going to side with President Trump. President Trump has a great army at his side. All those who still care about saving western civilization. President Trump can and imo will win in a landslide victory, as you said, Vargas, this November. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 09:16, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

That's a good point to mention, NishantXavier. Some Bernie bros are populists who may really end up preferring an anti-establishment conservative like Donald Trump over some "moderate" establishment Democrat hack like Joe Biden. I've seen leftists outraged over the fact that around 15% (if I remember correctly) of Bernie supporters are willing to back Trump over Biden. If President Trump appeals to that base with economic opportunities, he can potentially win in a landslide. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Thursday, 11:51, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

Jack Dorsey re-testifies to Congress Monday

Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter...how do I say it? Misled Congress? Lied to Congress? Perjured himself? Over whether Twitter practiced political censorship. There was a picture leaked and passed around on Twitter (which was naturally censored) showing a Twitter moderator's management console programmed with large buttons labelled with various censorship tasks like, for example, "shadowban". In this case, the subtle minds at Twitter have cleverly concealed what the button label might mean, so although we would need a modern-day Sherlock Holmes to learn the operation to which it truly refers, I suspect it has something to do with the prohibition of large summer umbrellas, though I've steeled myself to the prospect of discovering it applies to the performance of some equally fiendish behavior. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 17:26, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

If he were a government employee, it's "lack of candor"; if it's a mere mortal or ordinary human being it's "lying." RobSTrump 2Q2Q 17:45, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
(Rob is referring to recent FBI Office of Professional Responsibility reports, like the one on corrupt former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, which use that phrase repeatedly.) VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 17:57, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
That's about half of it; while Gen. Flynn was on the government payroll at the time he is alleged to have been guilty of a "lack of candor", after he quit he was charged with "lying". RobSTrump 2Q2Q 18:03, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
I think that the affectionate partiality by government workers toward language that secretly diverts the imputation of guilt away from their fellow stewards of government spending is a loyalty (to oneself) that we see far too seldom these days and, in its way, is among the many of those magnificent chivalrous preoccupations (with oneself) that make elite America truly what it is—and furthermore, to be honest, that I find really quite adorable! If you're out there and want to do an interview for a large liberal publication—I'm ready and available! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 18:40, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
Look at the flip side: none of the goons Trump sent into Portland can be charged with lying in the legitimate dispatch of their duties. But every one they drag off the streets will be charged with a federal crime and, at a minimum, bankrupted like Gen. Flynn. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 18:54, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
You ought to see the Federal Courthouse in my town: a nuclear bomb can go off and that building will still be standing. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 18:59, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
RobS, that's 2010s thinking! Don't you know nowadays harmless domestic terrorists indicted by their persecutors in law enforcement get their defenses paid for by the National Lawyer's Guild? VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 19:29, 23 July 2020 (EDT)
I can only assume the lack of street arrests is cause investigators are following the money from George Soros and Borealis Philanthropy through money transfers to DSA, Antifa, and BLM board members down to street komandos and operatives. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:49, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

Who was America's first racist president?

With Joe Biden shooting off his idiotic mouth again, we need to get a handle on this one: "Biden claims Trump is America's 'first' racist president." I see this as yet another category in which Woodrow Wilson, our 28th president, represents the bottom of the barrel. He was a supporter of the Confederacy, the KKK, and segregated federal employees. See "The 11 Most Racist U.S. Presidents." Of course, this brings to mind Biden's claim that Obama was "articulate and bright and clean." These days, it's so hard to find a black man who is truly clean that once you find one, you automatically start thinking about putting him in the Oval Office. Did Biden have a joint appearance with Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton and go away thinking, "Holy, cow, what a stinkbag!" PeterKa (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2020 (EDT)

Peter, Biden had to say something, and let me explain. There's a conservative meme floating around that goes "People thought that Obama would be the post-racial president, but he turned out to be the most racial president." As I'm sure you know, Biden's campaign's job is to find any well-known damaging generalizations that might prevent his attractiveness as a candidate from reaching its full effect and counter them. But this is sometimes done for many such perspectives, like the one you mentioned, true or false, at once, with something that blocks and replaces them, or at least confuses them. This is often done by means of time-wasting disputations his supporters can use even though people know they aren't true, but are effective because they are annoying enough for people aged 18-49 to respond to. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:42, 24 July 2020 (EDT)
(A) Why are Biden's boys tearing down statues of Washington and Jefferson if they were not the first racist presidents, and (B) Why hasn't Biden condemned senseless violence and vandalism of tearing Washington and Jefferson statues since they obviously were not America's first racist presidents? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:25, 24 July 2020 (EDT)
Trump started a new catch phrase you're supposed to say whenever you bring up Biden's family: "Where's Hunter Biden?" VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 22:19, 24 July 2020 (EDT)

MPR John Durham Washington Examiner article

"The politically charged review, which shifted into a criminal investigation last fall, has been criticized by Democrats as a scheme to damage President Trump's rivals ahead of the 2020 election

There it is again! You'll notice if it damages his rivals it will be wholely rooted in the self-inflicted kind of damage. But because they're damaged they get the moral supremacy anyway. And didn't Plato tell us punishments are medicinal for the soul? Don't we have the right to a government that sees that justice is done even when we ourselves are wrong? Damaged instead of punished on the basis of what? Gee, I wonder why they didn't characterize the evidence that would determine that.

Maybe the whole Justice Department should recuse itself, since the suspects attempted high treason against their boss, and so they have a conflict of interest. Do you think if Trump's "rivals" shoot themselves in the foot in the course of trying to frame Trump's staff for a crime, they're immune from punishment because the results are too ironic? We won't know because they don't mention that activity as part of the case either. "You can't punish them, or even mention in a news article they inadvertently provided the very evidence that points to their wrongdoing!" Now Trump is blameworthy just because he can't help it that he's lucky?

"and hailed by Republicans who claim the Russia investigation was a partisan hit job."

"Claims" backed by (scandalously voluminous) evidence or without evidence? I guess it doesn't matter. NOT!

Of all the half-baked so-called news reportage that I've had to slog through of gonzo journalists trying to get their digs in seeking petty revenge against Trump over the course of his presidency, this ranks about somewhere in the middle!

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 14:58, 24 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump style dialogue

Do you remember the news stories about the mayor of Portland telling Trump not to bring federal troops to Portland and Trump saying that he would? It turns out Trump had already BEEN in Portland for two-and-a-half weeks! On July 4th he deployed every non-Defense Department military agent he could find to Portland! Lol. Trump didn't send the official U.S. military so there wouldn't be any media leaks. It worked!

They spent their time conducting surveillance to identify who was in charge and to track those people's locations, arresting the wildest attackers in the mob groups and infiltrating the crowds to strategically to prevent mob flare-ups from focusing onto single individuals so they didn't get killed.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 22:14, 24 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump has mentioned Sun Tzu on his Twitter feed.
"Be extremely subtle, even to the point of formlessness. Be extremely mysterious, even to the point of soundlessness. Thereby you can be the director of the opponent's fate." - Sun Tzu Conservative (talk) 16:08, 25 July 2020 (EDT)


So what you are saying is that a man who lowers his mask to take a drink whilst in his own bubble is denying science when for weeks upon weeks liberal Trump has denied there is a problem, the leader of this website has gone on about "Mask Police", conservatives have been wearing mesh masks to give a middle finger to the rest us. Fauci has saved 1000s, Trump has killed 1000s. Conservapedia's new pro death stance is very enlightening. What a bunch of sycophantic always Trump holes your all are.--CanonD (talk) 14:47, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

As far as Anthony Fauci, he was sitting next to a friend in the ballpark too. He was not merely sitting next to his wife. So he was not social distancing. As far as his claim that he was merely taking a drink, in the picture his hands were folded and not holding a drink. Anthony Fauci did behave hypocritically and he did it in public.
Recently, a person from New Zealand whose political views skew to the secular left indicated to me that the USA had poor leadership when it comes to the coronavirus epidemic. Due to excessive nationalism, rather than investigate this matter more fully, I decided to point out to him that some nations that are atheistic/nonreligious/evolutionistic in their ideology have had less than a stellar response to the pandemic (China/UK/some European countries).
Looking back, given that there are 195 countries in the world and that the USA is among the top countries in deaths by coronavirus per 100,000 people [6][7], I should have been more open to the notion that America has had poor leadership during this pandemic. And the current administration is not entirely to blame since the coronavirus has a bigger effect on overweight and aging populations (the USA did not transform itself into an overweight/aging population in the last 4 years). By the way, the UK, which is the fountainhead of Darwinism, has the highest rate of covid-19 deaths per 100,000 people in the world!
Next, I am a big believer in masks and social distancing. I not only wear a common blue masks that many others wear in public, but I cover it with a t-shirt mask that I form. So I double mask! I also social distance. In addition, soon I am getting a face shield which are very inexpensive to get.
As far as Trump, although he did make some good decisions regarding the coronavirus pandemic (restricting visitors from China early on, etc.), I wish he had made some better decisions as far as the pandemic.Conservative (talk) 18:48, 25 July 2020 (EDT
Trump Finally Wears a Mask & Loves it! Comedian John Di Domenico.Conservative (talk) 20:34, 25 July 2020 (EDT)
Trump Rants & Hypes Rebooted Corona Task Force Show! New Guests New Sponsors! - Comedian John Di DomenicoConservative (talk) 08:03, 26 July 2020 (EDT)
Many liberals/leftists have been engaging in mass protests during the coronavirus pandemic which is a flagrent disregard of social distancing. Shame! In addition, because many liberals/leftists went to poorly run, public schools and/or are lazy researchers so they don't understand medical science well and fail to understand why hydroxychloroquine works best when supplemented with zinc (see: Vladimir Zelenko's coronavirus treatment). Conservative (talk) 09:14, 26 July 2020 (EDT)

Flashback: Russiagate

"The Robert Mueller IMPLOSION: It’s time for Barr and Trump to prosecute the deep state traitors, or the American people will never regain any faith in the justice system."—Mike Adams, July 25, 2019, Newstarget.

There are supposedly numerous secret grand juries being conducted, but as RobS said, Washington DC is a bad venue, and I don't know if moving it elsewhere is permissible in U.S. federal court. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 20:35, 25 July 2020 (EDT)

We're supposed to get big news this week. Thus far, it looks like the respected Brookings Institutions neck is on the block - something no one has written about yet and will be YUGE. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:44, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

That's enough!

Conservative promised to stop posting political opinions from his computer rig, but he did it again. When is he going to learn that being a chatterbox will prevent him from being invited to professional golf matches, fishing tournaments and especially libraries. What? The polymath Conservative not allowed at our storehouses of knowledge?

We tried to hide the section totally authored by a non-troll (n.b.: this is rote sarcasticul) because we knew it would be too big of a temptation, but he found it anyway, reposted the troll commentary and before we could stop him, replied and replied. Not just replied, but replied and replied. His wise admonitions were imprinted all over the discussion page before anyone could stop him.

Conservative has become addicted to Conservapedia! When I was over at his house for dinner I was the unwilling object of more than one embarrassed glance from his computer rig between the main meal and the dessert course. I really thought he had turned himself around. I'm angrier than I sound and more sympathetic to those who'd like to put lumps on Conservative's head than I'd like to admit.

But in spite of all of that, I'm sure he's still a very nice person.

On unrelated subject, does anyone know the definition of the word "enabler" and how you can avoid being one? (As context it was said by a very picky person.) VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 22:27, 25 July 2020 (EDT

What does BIDEN stand for?


Biggest idiot the Democrats ever nominated? Boring imitation Dumbo with an elongated nose? The American people will never vote for me, but my 600 lawyers will put me in office anyway? I guess that last one doesn't really work. See "Why Has Biden Hired 600 Lawyers?" PeterKa (talk) 09:29, 26 July 2020 (EDT)

"Baseball teams and organizations constantly need a new influx of talent. If they let their bench languish, they will eventually get into trouble because our beloved favorites will eventually falter."[8]
Baseball has some similarities to politics. And Democrats have a weak bench.Conservative (talk) 09:20, 26 July 2020 (EDT)
It's a generational transfer, and the upcoming generation bears no resemblance to its forebears who once believed in two-party democracy. Biden himself never believed in two-party democracy. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:43, 26 July 2020 (EDT)

Is this a clone of Kamala Harris?


Hagia Sophia, Islam's newest mosque

y After eighty years as a museum, Hagia Sophia has reverted to being a mosque. Hagia Sophia was built as a church in 537 by Justinian, the emperor of law-giving fame. For nearly a thousand years, it was the pride of Constantinople, the capital of the Byzantine Empire. See "Turkey's Hagia Sophia holds first Friday prayers since conversion back to mosque." PeterKa (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2020 (EDT)

One big question: Why now, at this moment in time? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:41, 29 July 2020 (EDT)
Coverting Hagia Sophia polls well with President Erdogan's base. If doing the Islamist thing allows Erdogan's polls to recover, he can hold an early election. At a grander level, to reverse one of Ataturk's best known moves puts Erdogan on the same level as Ataturk. PeterKa (talk) 09:05, 2 August 2020 (EDT)
Chlora monastary, which I mention in the article "Byzantine Empire," has also been converted. See "Weeks after converting Hagia Sophia, Turkey converts the 4th-century Byzantine built Chora monastery to a mosque."
Meanwhile on the Temple Mount, Jews have started praying in defiance of the Waqf, the Muslim administration of the site. See "Jewish Worshippers Are Praying on the Temple Mount for the First Time in Decades." Defense Minister Moshe Dayan decided not to allow Jewish prayer on the Temple Mount back in 1967. Since that time, the Israeli courts had ruled in favor of freedom of worship at the site several times to no effect. PeterKa (talk) 08:57, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
  • Make the Roman Empire Great Again
  • 30,000+ rioting mob
  • Plague sweeps empire
  • Religious nuts in Middle East causing trouble
  • Wife probably posed naked - but was super hot
  • Snake-like journos write bad gossip about him
  • mfw Justinian is Trump, and 6th cen. Byz is USA

Thales of Tampa Bay @VarangianSkull

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 15:13, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Florida numbers total hoax (fraud)

Florida: 223,000 positive #SARSCoV2 tests in three weeks - 10,000 a day - and ~NO CHANGE in hospitalizations or ICU occupancy statewide. You say epidemic, I say a lot of people getting colds, let’s call the whole thing off. (We’ll see if Florida has any excess mortality in July.)—Alex Berenson

Conservative said "Republicans are still in denial" about the cases two weeks back.

Conservative thought Democrat activists piling on were the Gentlemen Jims of U. S. politics, even though Laura Loomer proved when you take pictures of ballot boxes nowhere near where they're supposed to be, they take your phone away and invalidate the recount at 11:59:53 pm.

Thankfully, Laura Loomer is running for Congress in Florida's 21st Congressional District and has raised 2.5x more than her opponent, and nobody likes Bill DeBlasio anymore, who took a suspicious measuring stick to the positive tests there because that's really his business and his own state had the most.

Seriously, though (you'll like this, Conservative) Trump played a Jedi mind trick on Gavin Newsom, governor of California, whom Laura Loomer also protested, by first complaining about all the forest service firefighting money he took, and then by trying really hard to be his friend, and he must have told him (falsely) his campaign told him he needed a West Coast ten-pin, because it looked like he was being rejected there, and Trump was really image-conscience and going to read a list of Wuhan flu advice at the White House, and he needed Newsom to thank him again. Instead Newsom insisted that Trump jawbone for Newsom on liberal social issues, and when Trump declined, Newsom announced that he was leading California as a "nation-state".

Well, everything Newsome tried didn't stop the cases, probably because he was still letting in the illegal aliens, and Trump didn't warn him. Everybody in California remembered what Newsom did, and how he went out of his way to do things differently than Trump, like allow the enormous communist protests to take place without any calls for medical restrictions, so it looked like he wasn't listening, and then he tried micromanaging the crisis so he'd look engaged, but everybody thought he was gutting the economy just to go through the motions of making tough decisions. Lol.

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 18:34, 27 July 2020 (EDT)

The 1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) killed about 100,000 Americans.[10] In 1968, America had a population of about 200,000,000 people.[11] Since the USA's population is currently about 328,000,000 people, that would be about 164,000 people who died in today's era all other things being the same.
So far 150,000 people died of coronavirus in the USA if the commonly cited estimate is accurate.
Reuter's reports: Over 224,000 COVID-19 deaths forecast in U.S. by November 1, says University of Washington's IHME.[12]
The 1968 pandemic lasted until 1970 and happened during Richard Nixon's presidency. Nixon served from 1969 until 1974 (He won a second term, but was impeached due to the Watergate burglery coverup). Nixon had a big virus epidemic and civil/racial unrest and won as a law and order president in 1968.
In the USA, Operation Warp Speed (OWS) aims to deliver 300 million doses of a safe, effective vaccine for COVID-19 by January 2021, as part of a broader strategy to accelerate the development, manufacturing, and distribution of COVID-19 vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics (collectively known as countermeasures).[13]
Will DonaldTrump dodge the coronavirus epidemic and tough economy bullets? Time will tell.Conservative (talk) 21:04, 27 July 2020 (EDT)
"We keep reading that 'Covid cases reach this or that milestone!'
But do we really know what a "Covid case is?" According to new CDC rules, you don't need to have even been tested or have symptoms to be a "case." You may have been labeled as a "case" and not even know it."
"As I recall, 2019-20 was predicted to be a very heavy flu season, and yet, it turned out to be a light flu season and a heavy Covid season.
Could that be because we were just coding flu cases as Covid?"
There is no controlling legal standard for reporting Covid fatalities reported to the CDC, and the regulations they do have explicitly state they are only aspiring to 50% accuracy and reward health care providers each time Covid is the cause of death and give them nothing if it isn't. There are no examinations by the residing county's coroner's office to confirm the cause of death unless a crime is involved.
@Hale_Razor noticed an interesting pattern:
March: DEATHS!
April: DEATHS!
July: CASES!
VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 00:14, 28 July 2020 (EDT)

BLM teaches children to become trannies

Many donated to Black Lives Matter thinking that the group had something to do with racial equality or stopping police brutality. But it turns out that its real agenda is something else entirely. Schools in California are adopting a curriculum created by BLM that promotes transgenderism. See "California School Board Faces Ire of Parents After Teacher Reveals Shocking Union-Backed BLM Curriculum." Did George Floyd die to promote this form of child abuse? Public schooling in America seems to have run its course. Perhaps we can use private or religious education to put children beyond the reach of these monsters. PeterKa (talk) 23:46, 27 July 2020 (EDT)

Mike S. Adams

Mike S. Adams (no relation to the Mike Adams up on this page), commentator on social Marxism, for those who knew him in person or through his satirical writings, was known by us to be assassinated in his home by a firearm last week—he had no financial motive to take his own life as he was set to collect his pension as a professor; no personal motive, he had droves of adoring fans on TownHall; no mental motive, as he had a model conservative intellect for dealing firmly but not harshly with those who saw him as an obstacle to their vengeance and power over those who sought success by the legitimate means of being of use and service to their community rather than extorting a kind of ransom to escape destructive abuse the way they themselves achieved success. And no spiritual motive as he was a devout Baptist.
I will miss his humor the most; he stuck mostly to bad puns on his Twitter account—it was heavily shadowbanned to the point that he probably could have been a Top Conservative on Twitter otherwise, but his influence was enormous; the 2.2 million follower account of Ann Coulter repeated news of his suspicious death. But his longer riffs I liked the best; his most perfected trope was a deadpan satirically earnest engagement with the empty glittering appearances of liberal insight at face value; I'd be in hysterics at the times when the more foolish his liberal challenger became to extricate themselves from exposure of their insincerity, the more satirically apologetic he became.
Don't get me wrong, the idea of political assassination is scary as h--- to someone who grew to appreciate and even adopt his clever sensibilities (the best example is probably when I use the phrase "that's big of you"), but he also had a heavy side using his discernment skills as a professor of criminology, as, frankly, some of the liberals he'd encounter at their Meccas at the state liberal arts colleges were psychological and emotional messes.
Especially in his books he'd resort to an analysis that was however as deep as he'd happen to encounter in the opinions of others along the way, like of feminism, where I didn't want to go, and when I went past my qualms out of a desire to support him financially, I'd be sorry I did. I had to stop reading him when I went to work among certain liberals; his analysis in a column would bring you to a certain point of looking briefly at motives brought up in each one, one at a time, that frequently forced you to hesitate when you encountered it again until what you remembered grew to a kind of cascade that had a way of blocking the direct kind of communication.
But as I let on, what he did write (he also gave speeches) was really quite instructional (and harrowing) after the ideas were reinforced on repetition about how liberals had corrupted the intellectual education that is supposed to take place at our colleges and universities.
In the months before his death the issue he cared the most about was being against abortion, saying something like "if in a political discussion if you can't get that right I wouldn't trust you to get anything right". Which brings me to the chilling suspicion that someone thought when the founder of Twitter re-testified in Congress, that there would be a prospect of the end of shadow-banning and in consequence, some nefarious person feared Mike Adams' could find success as a powerful, well-known abortion opponent on Twitter.
I'd like to add some comforting generalities here to be kind, but what's kind of preventing that is the feeling of being the private witness to a crime, as, like I said, I belong to the few among whom what they know just happens to indicate he didn't have any known motive to take his own life. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 01:44, 28 July 2020 (EDT)
Well, if part of your credibility for accuracy's going to go down in flames (that is, at the only place where I wrote about it, above), I did it in the best possible way: defending a flawed but inspiring conservative being piled on by a horde of mendacious undeservedly-esteemed liberal pseudo-journalists.
There was no assassination, but had Mike Adams lived, his reputation would have undoubtedly been trashed and smeared even like President Clinton's top admiral would have, who, as Rush Limbaugh reported at the time, had even less reason to commit suicide, though having done so, after being summoned by a journalist for questions about a medal on his uniform that turned out to be fully deservedly-earned. Mike apparently had applied for his job with a mis-statement on his résumé for which he thought he'd be legally liable, having just agreed to leave his teaching post at a state university at age 55 for a settlement of $500,000.
He may very well have made the mis-statement before he converted to Christianity and later "converted" to conservatism, but never having corrected it.
Maybe you're wondering if you've never heard of him, what his relationship is to mainstream conservatism. I don't remember what his opinion of Trump was, but Adams was the subject of a seven-year's duration lawsuit that reached U.S. Federal Appeals Court. You've probably heard of his attorney, and friend, David French, who worked at National Review Online. Peter Ka and 1990's guy reported on him for us as being a pretty well-known anti-Trumper in Trump's first run for office, prospectively competing against Trump in a candidacy that was a sort of centerpiece for the damage the neo-conservative movement did to itself in relation to the U.S. federal elections that year.
The self-account of the lawsuit represented by French (who no longer lists his National Review Online experience on his Twitter bio) shows him redeeming himself, at least in my eyes, as he rung up a defeat on behalf of a conservative client whose political philosophy he didn't entirely share, against a clique of insincere beneficiaries of academic freedom devoting themselves to stifling others with regard to the only academic freedoms having to do with the American Constitutional protections that matter as bearing a cost outside of equal opportunity: the freedom of political viewpoint.
David French noted Adams wasn't a racist, but in his eulogy he seems to have unwittingly proved that to be understatement, though it was already known by his regular readers. Sporadically, the North Carolinan resident wrote articles that put words in the mouths of his adversaries in an effort of presenting a reconstruction of what could be the quite plausible attitude motivating the dumbing-down of various educational standards at his college system that all-too apparently could be explained by cynical exploitation of blacks and other politically-distinct minorities. He wrote with the realization that rather, accounts suggested the same to be molding their targets into loyal cliques to be used as political bludgeons all while slighting, if not exacting, the cost of the loss of providing them a fundamental mastery of the liberal arts that would help them succeed as citizens and/or in a chosen career field.
Opposing counsel used these fairly audacious reconstructions, always made in passing, of dialogues and descriptions that subsequent evidence of detrimental outcomes sadly confirmed that the motivating attitudes portrayed in them, as I said, were quite plausible, themselves in a cynical way. They were gathered and read together and, without their context in open court, French reports Adams, whom he feared would speak too plainly of his unvarnished disdain for self-serving doctrinaires, "crumbled" in confidence to the point of low responsiveness as the "half-African-American...jurors' eyes narrowed". He had all at once faced the prospect of not only having mistakenly disappointed the jurors by being subject to the presentation of a scornful misrepresentation of his views, but, should he lose the case, even being "discredited as a vicious bigot".
"Fortunately, we rallied," wrote French, "The evidence was just too overwhelming. When we caught his department chair contradicting her previous sworn testimony the jurors’ eyes narrowed again, but this time their anger was directed at the defendants. By the next day, the light was back in Mike’s eyes. The happy warrior had returned."
I don't have time to draw up a full picture of Mike's contributions, and the loss he was facing before his demise, tonight, but I hope if you did a web search of his contributions to conservatism, you'll be inclined to understand better when I tell you that representations of his being prejudicial to blacks and other politically-distinct minority groups themselves are components of commonly-used abusive ploys by liberal activists to present conservatives that way to hide their own complicity in actually only being that way themselves. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 04:11, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Donald J. Trump

Trump has a way of holding his head up with quiet dignity and foresightedness through this Covid fakery/Antifa/BLM activism period, but he's gotta be thinking: "What a bunch of idiots." VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 01:56, 28 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump always plays his cards very close to his chest. And, with the exception of the CCP bio attack, he already has contingencies in place. His biggest mistakes happen when the media forces him to reveal a card he's holding, which he does reluctantly and is usually combination of him tossing a bone to pacify them, tinged with a bit of pride and arrogance. But no one has a record of being 2 or 3 years ahead of policy directions, if not 20 or 30 years as Trump does. It goes unappreciated in an age of 30 second sound bytes that are forgotten in a day or two.
Trump is the anti-Nixon. Nixon put a vision in place that maintained the peace and avoided nuclear war with the communists for 48 years under all administrations, Democrat and Republican. Trump between 1986 and 1996 was already saying it was a mistake - it would kill American jobs and destroy "the middle class" (to borrow a Marxist term). Trump truly is a visionary as Nixon was, and will set the course for a division of the world for decades to come, as Nixon did, whether he or not he is recognized as the architect of the coming international structure of world peace. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:37, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

What is John Roberts up to?

"Multiple sources familiar with the inner workings of the Court" have been in contact with CNN. In other words, Chief Justice John Roberts is leaking again. So much for judicial discretion. What does Roberts have to say for himself? Mostly that Kavanaugh is a dip who has to be "guided by Roberts." Aside from such self-promotional revelations, we learn that Roberts wasn't so keen on the recent DACA decision. Why did he vote for it? Supreme Court opinions are written by the senior justice in the majority. As chief justice, Roberts has a motive to vote with the majority even when he doesn't agree with it. See "More Leaks From The Supreme Court, All Of Which Make Roberts Look Powerful." PeterKa (talk) 06:15, 28 July 2020 (EDT)

All nine justices will be leaking before long: "Leaks From the Supreme Court, Part II: Justice Gorsuch Looks Decisive and In Control." PeterKa (talk) 05:47, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

As things heat up....

One problem I'm encountering is distinguishing between ordinary garden variety corruption in the Uniparty and Deep State, and communist objectives in the Democrat establishment. While communism is by definition corrupt, sometimes Deep State corruption has no ideological basis beyond selfish motives and interests. But the same can also said about some of the most vocal advocates of destroying the constitution and the American system of government. Lord, help me to discern. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:50, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

RobS is absolutely right. So back off!
Seriously though, I can't imagine anyone would be disappointed if you scaled back your deep state chronicles. Seriously, who else is taking the heat? Another wiki is what? still doing PR for them? VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 17:07, 29 July 2020 (EDT)

Coronavirus, masks, medical vector, USA, Japan and East Asia

"Yet masking became almost universal, and though there is no proof it was a magic bullet, Japan’s virus success indicates it had a serious impact. The country has experienced only 7.68 deaths per million, compared with 385 per million for the United States."[14]

"If you’re wondering whether to wear or not to wear, consider this. The day before yesterday, 21 people died of COVID-19 in Japan. In the United States, 2,129 died. Comparing overall death rates for the two countries offers an even starker point of comparison with total U.S. deaths now at a staggering 76,032 and Japan’s fatalities at 577. Japan’s population is about 38% of the U.S., but even adjusting for population, the Japanese death rate is a mere 2% of America’s...

If 80% of a closed population were to don a mask, COVID-19 infection rates would statistically drop to approximately one twelfth the number of infections—compared to a live-virus population in which no one wore masks."[15]

"But in most democracies that have had the greatest success in fighting COVID-19, including South Korea, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, and Japan, mask-wearing is common practice."[16]

"When Singapore and South Korea figured out that if as a medical provider you wash your damn hands before and after, without exception, every potential contact with an infected person or surface even if you didn't have a mask on for 30 minutes during casual conversations with others (e.g. neither of you is hacking) transmission to and between their medical providers stopped."[17]

Only Conservative would quote Vox Day, so I know he wrote this section. I heard of this conversation in Florida: "Hey! There are hardly any Covid patients in this hospital?" "Shh! We don't want them here!" VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:20, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Italicizing websites

As in Twitter or TownHall or Unz Reader. How about it? It's the twenties! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 07:11, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

"In essence, the conservative person is simply one who finds the permanent things more pleasing than Chaos and Old Night. (Yet conservatives know, with Burke, that healthy 'change is the means of our preservation.')...
Burke’s reminder of the necessity for prudent change is in the mind of the conservative. But necessary change, conservatives argue, ought to be gradual and discriminatory, never unfixing old interests at once." - Russell Kirk.[18]Wikignome72 (talk) 10:01, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
There is subtle point here; nobody italicizes public utilities like ATT; but the Manuel of Style say publishers should be italicized like NYT. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:09, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
IOWS, we the public can strip Big Tech of their Section 230 immunity as a fait accompli before any legislation by treating them as publishers. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:13, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Applying your guys' philosophy, if you were writing the movie script to Finding Nemo, the characters would all sound like whales. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:41, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Though after all day making important decisions, maybe it's the little ones that can end up being the tough ones! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:47, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Americans need to use more wisdom as far as the coronavirus pandemic. Herman Cain didn't need to die

Herman Cain, the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, was diagnosed with COVID-19 last month and admitted to an Atlanta-area hospital on July 1, 10 days after he attended President Trump’s rally in Tulsa, Okla.[19]

Why are Americans having protests and political rallies in the middle of a pandemic? The Singaporeans and Japanese who have a far better handle on the coronavirus pandemic aren't doing this. What's wrong with using common sense? Do the Singaporeans and Japanese have better schools with better science education? Do their cultures better balance responsibilities and rights when it comes to pandemics?


P.S. Viruses and the grave don't care about your constitutional rights, liberty or politics! Neither does gravity!

P.S.S. Colonial America had quarantines. There is no constitutional right in the USA to avoid using common sense measure to mitigate/end a pandemic.Wikignome72 (talk) 13:37, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Dick Morris said the same thing yesterday. If Trump supporters do not start wearing masks, you might as well start saying "Heil Biden!" RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:44, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Trump should have better educated himself about masks and lead by example by wearing a mask. In addition, he should have used the Defense Production Act to ramp up PPE and coronavirus testing production. There are several areas where the Trump Admnistration could have done better.
The clock is running out. Trump might not have enough time to turn around the current situation as far as the pandemic/economy.
The saving grace is that if Biden is elected, a Republican will probably win in 2024. Wikignome72 (talk) 13:55, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
I'm not sure what's happening; next the MSM might even say Herman Cain was Black. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:19, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

I am not going to focus on the petty matters that some people focus on such as someone's skin pigmentation. There is a whole world out there that doesn't have anything to do with skin pigmentation.Conservative (talk) 16:48, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

If you don't vote for Biden, you're not Black. This gringo protester is more Black than the Black doctor who saved 350 lives with hydroxychloroquine. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 17:08, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
The press and many liberals/leftists focus on skin pigmentation, gayness and feminism. They are part of a weird cult. I choose not to participate in their bizarre world or focus on it. If a race war happens in the USA, I will endeavor to relocate to Northern Ireland/Ireland or the Philippines.Conservative (talk) 17:40, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
Well, you know what's going to happen? Communists will accuse Trump of murdering blacks after Cain's death, even though he wasn't Black, per Biden. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 17:45, 30 July 2020 (EDT)
America's politics is messed up. Sadly, many countries have worse governments.Conservative (talk) 17:47, 30 July 2020 (EDT)

Why is there no Wuhan virus book written by a conservative exposing the abusive influences and questionable statistics and thoroughly documenting just what the facts are, and the political motivations of why they might have been distorted? I suspect Trump focused on vaccines and abandoned treatment because there are no financial interests promoting (OH)--chloroquine, and the vaccine interests are like the "inferior man" in the Chinese oracle I quoted that Trump must publicly associate with.

In 2011, Herman Cain outlined his wanting to build a wall at the U.S.-Mexico border: "It would be about 20-feet high. It would have electrified barbed wire at the top. And on this side of it, it would have a moat ... and yes it would have alligators." VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 00:05, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

America's Declaration of Independence speaks of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".
Donald Trump's #1 priority is the custodian of American lives. You can't have liberty or the pursuit of happiness in this world if you are dead.
Donald Trump failed on the coronavirus because the key to beating the coronavirus pandemic is prevention. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. And Trump failed to promote masks and social distancing in public (when it is possible to do so). He did not lead from example or stress the importance of these two things.
It is true that Trump did well on the economic liberty front (lower taxes, enterprise zones in cities, less unnecessary regulation), the educational liberty front (school choice), the prison reform front and the religious liberty front. It is also true that in terms of liberty and "pursuit of happiness" Trump does oppose political correctness which is stiflying free speech.
On the other hand, if you fail on your #1 priority which is the protection of life, you may be voted out of office. On top of this, the coronavirus has negative effect on the economy.
If Trump wins, it will be due to Biden faltering when the public has a better chance of seeing him such as the debates. Or because you can't win the presidency by hiding from the spotlight, which Biden is doing. A bunker strategy to keep you out of the limelight is unprecedented in American politics in terms of it lasting for an entire presidential campaign (not sure about any presidential campaign which may have occurred during the Spanish flu). It might not work for Biden during the end of the campaign.Conservative (talk) 09:55, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
Trump—Today: I am replacing the mayors of large Democrat-run cities where 75% of the infections are occuring with military commanders to enforce Dr. Fauci's health recommendations.
Next day: "Trump removed from office for staging a coup and endangering Chinese-ancestried Americans and Chinese nationalists by turning non-Chinese-ancestried American against them by inducing the belief they were greatly dangerous for his having taken such drastic measures!" VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 13:02, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
Also, Cain had a brush with cancer 14 years ago that likely damaged his liver. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 17:19, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
Donald Trump’s poll approval numbers Just SURGED Pass Barack Obama’s at the same time in their respective second terms. Joe Biden Campaign Begins to IMPLODE![20]
Donald Trump is like a Timex watch. He takes a licking, but keeps on ticking. The mainstream press and academia has hammerd on him during his presidency. The Democrats have hammerd on him. He faces a coronavirus pandemic and its attendant harm to the economy.
And yet he is beating Obama at the same time during his presidency and his approval numbers are going up among likely voters.
This is incredible. This certainly shows what a weak candidate Joe Biden is and how resilient Trump's support is.Conservative (talk) 20:01, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
I have a theory. A regression to the mean from one data point. Young liberal women are buying the toxic masculinity line and think some of them have taken over the Democratic Party in the form of Antifa and BLM. They are sending a message to Democratic leadership that they approve the toxic masculinity of Trump's bumbling misunderstanding of women over the hostile environment Antifa and BLM are promoting. They will vote for Trump as an act of political protest to change the Democratic Party leadership over to officers more suitable to women. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 20:45, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
I have some theories: 1) Many people don't like the rioting and the defund the police idea. 2) The closer we get to the election, the more odd Joe Biden hiding in his basement during a pandemic will be. It strengthens the charge that he is too frail/old to be president. 3) People are getting lockdown fatigue. I am seeing more and more people be wearing mask scofflaws. Mask fatigue is setting as many Americans tend to be independent freespirits. I think people should wear masks in public, but many people are going to do what they are going to do despite what they are advised/told to do. 4) Joe Biden keeps being pushed to the left which hurts his appeal to moderates. For example, many blue collar, Reagan Democrats type people don't like Biden approving of much of the Green New Deal. 5) Some of the Bernie Sanders populists are getting mad at the Biden campaign and deciding to vote for Trump in the 2020 campaign. Conservative (talk) 10:08, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

Breaking: Maxwell's then-teenage accused-victim claims Vice President Al Gore and his wife Tipper Gore went to Epstein's 70-acre island

Maxwell U.S. Court of Appeals petition: Vice-president Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, were also guests of Jeffrey Epstein on his island.

In a November 14, 2016 deposition, Virginia Giuffre testified as per the court reporter's notes: "Virginia disclosed that Mr. Clinton's vice president Al Gore and his wife, Tipper, were also guests of Epstein on his island."

Giuffre also denied in the same testimony earlier reporting phrases about her associations with Epstein attributed to her; that is, phrases that looked like crude attempts by Maxwell's counsel to make it seem like she had implicated President Trump as being both familiar to herself and approving of Epstein's lifestyle.

RobS regalled us with Maxwell's father being an interesting person, but her lawyer sounds like a real shyster, and that Maxwell is going to fight like a wildcat to try to shake the bad publicity surrounding her base career of pandering she apparently carried out over a greatly prolonged period in a stupefaction as a lurid personal pre-occupation and actually try to rehabilitate her reputation after her expected prison sentence.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:04, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

70 acres isn't very big. One-tenth square mile. I wonder how they laid out the landing strip for the Lolita Express? I kind of always pictured that as a full-sized jet for some reason.

Well, the flight logs were released, but it's only available in bits and pieces on Twitter. So it looks like no one released the whole list on other news outlets. I think no one wants to be the first to do it, and those with the accounts on Twitter (unless they have millions of followers) who do are shooting themselves in the foot! They become the object of the enragement of celebrities and financially profit nothing! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:49, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

They took helicopters and boats from the airstrip. Maxwell even was trying to get a helicopter pilot license.
I don't like these leaks; it could be an effort from within the prosecution or defense to affect the outcome of litigation.
Most people believe she'll cop a plea to finger higher-ups; but it'll be difficult to get Prince Andrew and other powerful foreign figures of his ilk. That's why the Gore leak looks suspicious, especially since there's no allegations of impropriety yet. They may have given up on foreigners already and are starting with high-profile Americans. It would be interesting to look at Al & Tipper's divorce laid against a timeline of when this happened. If memory serves right, Al was accused of sexual assault ("you crazed little sex poodle") 30 days after the press release of their separation (she knew it was coming).
Roger Stone is good source on this kind of dirt. He says Epstein & Maxwell basically were free-lancers, working alternatively for various clients, such as Mossad, CIA, etc or even private clients to set honeytraps, frame, and blackmail people. Some of it they probably even did on their own. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 02:29, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
No, no, no, no. You're getting mixed up. The stuff at the top including the Al Gore memory were court documents that were sealed by elitists by means of which were trying to establish a two-tier justice system. But Ann Coulter just reported on them to her two-million followers and linked to the released documents to get people to help share the blame!
The stuff at the bottom are public records, but the number and power of the celebrities are so great that you're in danger of getting whacked just like Epstein was. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 02:52, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
From what you say, it sounds like Al had some kind of psychotic reaction. That's too bad. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 03:14, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
The Gore divorce was effectively covered up. The escapades evidently occurred sometime before the announcement. Then came the announcement of the divorce. Then the announcement of sexual assault charges. An orderly process. Now, more than a decade later, I don't ever recall hearing how it was settled.
Tipper actually was the money in the family. She had $350 million. He didn't have half of that when they came out of he White House. She probably didn't want to pay his blackmail money.
And the divorce likely wasn't pathological; it may have never occurred if she had been First Lady at the time. But Bush v. Gore allowed them vacation time at Little Saint James (the airstrip was at Big Saint James). RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:24, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
Maybe this is what's behind the Portland riots; they are trying to burn down the cop shop to destroy the original police report. [21] RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:32, 31 July 2020 (EDT)
I was about to report here that the mob was reported to be assualting the Portland federal building in hopes of destroying criminal records and enlisting convicts as mercenaries for their cause. Instead they played right into Trump's hands, and the worst offenders got stuck like flypaper there without realizing they were now committing federal crimes. Meanwhile the federal non-Defense Department military inside weren't trapped, but pretty much just clocking in each day helping effect the arrests!
Ann Coulter has lost her mind. The quondam most logical woman in the world read the details of the unsealed court records that were released, and she misreported the scheme perpetrated by Maxwell's shyster attorney to plant false testimony against Trump by not mentioning that Guiffre refuted the details of the transparent scheme in her deposition in the same stack of records.
This was the testimony made-up from whole cloth reported by Ann Coulter that Maxwell's shyster lawyer placed in Guiffre's mouth: "Donald Trump was aiso a good friend of Jeffreys. He didn't partake in sex with any of us but he flirted with me. He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'You've got the life.'"
This was Guiffre's testimony:

Q All right. What's inaccurate about the last statement on that page.

A "Donald Trump was also a good friend of Jeffrey's." That part is true.

[That turned out to be hearsay from Jeffrey Epstein. VM]

A (cont'd) "He didn't partake in any" of — "any sex with any of us but he flirted with me." It's true that he didn't partake in any sex with us, and but it's not true that he flirted with me.

Then the next sentence is, "He'd laugh and tell Jeffrey, 'you've got the life'" I never said that to her [Maxwell VM].

Q When you say, "He didn't partake in any sex with any of us," who is "us"?

A Girls. Just—

Q How do you know who Donald Trump — Trump had sex with?

A Oh, I didn't physically see him have sex with any of the girls, so I can't say who he had sex with in his whole life or not, but I just know it wasn't with me when I was with the other girls.

Q And who were the other girls that you were with in Donald Trump's presence?

A None. There — I worked for Donald Trump, and I've met him probably a few times.

Q When have you met him?

A At Mar-a-Lago. My dad and him, I wouldn't say they were friends, but my dad knew him and they would talk all the time — well, not all the time but when they saw each other.

Q Have you ever been in Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein's presence with one another?

A No.

Q What is the basis for your statement that Donald Trump is a good friend of Jeffery's?

A Jeffrey told me that Donald Trump is a good friend of his.

Q But you never observed them together?

A No, not that I can actually remember. I mean, not off the top of my head, no.

Q When did Donald Trump flirt with you?

A He didn't. That's what's inaccurate.

Q Did you ever see Donald Trump at Jeffrey's home?

A Not that I can remember.

Q On his island?

A No, not that I can remember.

Q In New Mexico?

A No, not that I can remember.

Q In New York?

A Not that I can remember.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 14:14, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

My take [in hopes to develop a narrative]. Epstein owned a condo at Mar-e-Lago, his onshore residence when not at Little St. James. Epstein used the Mar-e-Lago condo for two purpose: (1) to consort with new powerful, influential blackmail prospects, perhaps even Trump himself, for which if successful, Epstein could end up owning a portion of Mar-e-Lago; also as a rendezvous point for existing blackmail clients to hop on the Lolita Express for a trip to Fantasy Island. And (2) recruitment of new girls, such as Giuffre.
When Trump found out about Epstein recruiting Giuffre out of Mar-e-Lago, he banned Epstein from the complex (and likely refunded his money). Trump then needed to protect both his personnel reputation and the business reputation of Mar-e-Lago (we know had had presidential aspirations at this time as well).
His relation with Epstein changed at this point, c. 2008. We know he flew on the Lolita Express once, which likely can be explained as part of the business relationship before 2008 when he sold Epstein the condo. After Epstein's conviction and Giuffre's initial allegations, Trump turned the relationship around to use to his advantage: he knew about the suspicions of Bill Clinton (which likely could even be the source of Roger Stone's extensive documentation in the 2015 book, Clinton's War on Women). Trump knew the Mueller FBI and local authorities did nothing, i.e. Deep State corruption, for the rape of his former 15 year old employee. These events likely gave Trump further impetus to run for president (it also explains stiff opposition from the "establishment", i.e. Epstein's blackmail clients). The attorney for Giuffre and other victims says Trump was the only one willing to help with information, cause the local authorities, feds, and media refused to investigate.
To me it appears that while Trump had long standing ambitions to run for president, what happened to Giuffre affected him personally and threatened his business, and had a huge impact on his determination to strike back at the corrupt establishment and its facilitators. He knew this corruption went well beyond the President of the United States Bill Clinton, his apologists and defenders in media, Hollywood, and the elite donor class.
When the final bios are written a decade from now, I believe you'll see the recruitment and rape of a 15 year old employee of his by a confidential informant of Robert Mueller brought a sense of outrage and responsibility out of him to stand up do what he could to make things right. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:46, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

Suburban "protests"

Summary of MPR-linked story: Certain Antifa broke ranks and charged into the suburbs of Ukaipa, California, seeking the glory of becoming the vanguard. A group of four struck at a gas station/food mart, but were rebuffed. They attacked again with even less success, and this time one of the defenders took a black Antifa shirt from an Antifan as a souvenir. That Antifan notified the group the defender was in that that was a form of oppression. The Antifan group had had enough and walked back to Los Angeles. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 20:20, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

I was looking at the Portland suburban protests. The Ukaipa protest may be a few weeks old. We.ve yet to getting reporting over the past month of riots in small towns which have occurred across the country. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 20:58, 31 July 2020 (EDT)

Trump's polling: We've seen it all before

Trump is now at 42 percent favorable and 56 percent unfavorable. That's a net favorability of -14, which sounds horrible. But on July 29, 2016, Trump was at -25 percent.[22] Given what happened in the Iowa and New Hampshire primaries, there is reason to believe that the polls dramatically overstate the actual level of support that Biden enjoys. PeterKa (talk) 10:22, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

According to the matchup numbers in the battlegrounds, Hillary was 2.3 percentage points ahead at this point in 2016, compared to 5.5 points for Biden now. See "Top Battlegrounds (2020 vs. 2016): Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Florida, North Carolina, Arizona." Check out Breitbart: "Poll: Trump Takes Lead over Biden" PeterKa (talk) 05:04, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
With the coronavirus situation happening and the effects it has on the economy (Plus the fact that the Biden-Trump debates have not happened), it's a bad idea to speculate about the 2020 presidential election at this point in time. It's still too early.Conservative (talk) 07:10, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

Patriot uprising on the South of Chile, is this the start of a Civil War?

Main article: Terrorism in the South of Chile and Argentina

On July 2020 left-wing political activists took over multiple municipalities on the Araucanía Region.

Video: https://www.bitchute.com/video/1k6W8TRU6Mh9/ --Capitalist.Chile (talk) 15:22, 2 August 2020 (EDT)

Events in Chile seem to be anticipating those in the US. Chile was a prosperous, stable democracy until protests started in October. A million people came out to protest a subway fare hike, 5 percent of the entire population. One hundred and twenty Walmarts were burned and looted.[23] All this was triggered by a 3 percent fare increase! Attention soon shifted from Santiago subway fares to the Chilean constitution. A constitutional referendum is scheduled for October. The current constitution is supposedly tainted by the fact that it was issued in by a military government back in 1980, much as ours is supposedly tainted by slavery. But the Chilean constitution is apparently not that difficult to amend. In fact, it has been amended over 30 times since 1980. The militaristic provisions were removed long ago. Pinochet's two-party system has been replaced by proportional representation. One remaining objection is that there are some supermajority requirements to protect the free market economy. Like the left in Chile, the Obama is using the riots to push a proposal to eliminate the filibuster, American's version of a supermajority requirement. PeterKa (talk) 04:12, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
The next steps after eliminating the filibuster and lowering the voting age is assassination of Supreme Court Justices. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:57, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Yes, the events are very similar and the "indigenist" cause will be spread on the US as well.--Capitalist.Chile (talk) 18:30, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
U.S. Senator John McCain became a liberal hero in 2005 by joining the Gang of 14 in order to save the filibuster. Think of the amazing double funeral he got. Now he'd be just another "Jim Crow relic." In short, Obama reversed an entrenched position of the Democratic Party just by flinging out a nonsensical Jim Crow reference.
Why would Chile's protests anticipate those of the U.S? Is Venezuela, Soros, or whoever using Chile as a testing ground? PeterKa (talk) 00:15, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
In America we'd call them mestizos or mulattos (the Yellow Rose of Texas incidentally was a mulatta). RobSTrump 2Q2Q 01:58, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
Taos, New Mexico incidentally had a slave market long before whites ever showed up. Mestizos, or half Spanish half Indian, weren't wanted by either tribe and were sold to both. Kidnappings were common to bring them to market. So slavery wasn't invented by whites, it wasn't confined to blacks, and it was Angelo takeover of the Spanish Empire that put a stop to it. But try and tell that to some punk kid today or communist public school teacher and see what happens. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 02:07, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
Spanish people are. overwhelmingly, white Europeans, more so in the sixteenth century. Which brings me back to my point about Conservapedia's presentation of Europe...Rafael (talk) 11:58, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
That's a problem with Democrat identity politics; Latinos are Conquistadors - they never were slaves. Yet Democrats want them to forget their heritage and become part of the oppressed masses. The only basis for this is an appeal to them as victims of anti-Catholicism, which the atheist Marxists promoting this hate and division are themselves some of the biggest offenders. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:33, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
By Latino, I assume you mean central and south American hispanics. The social history of the region is fascinating because of the intermarriage of many indigenous people with the colonists, Spanish and Portuguese. In many countries, there was also intermarriage with slaves. Bottom line: south and central American hispanics are not the same as Spanish.
As for the Catholicism thing, maybe User:Conservative can correct me but the biggest growth in Latin America is among evangelicals and has been for decadesRafael (talk) 18:09, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

Ratioed tweets

How can someone start out so confidently and appealing to the interest of thinkers who pay attention to the topics of the day and yet end up so entirely missing the point? I don't know, but Twitter sure will tell you when it happens:

I'm not defending what Elliot Rodger did, but he was a lonely guy and women did treat him unfairly.—Bradley
I've read a lot of snarky stuff about Paul Ryan. But he ran honestly, beating the drum of his belief in tax cuts and a complete reimagination of the social safety net as something much smaller. He didn't hide. He put his ideas on paper and articulated them. There's honor in that.—Jonathan Allen
I happen to believe that hockey is violent. Canada also does not have roads so I am not shocked by this "accident" however I still give prayers.—Jennifer Mayers
I wish this were shocking...a sharia adherent Muslim (aka jihadi) at my plane as I head to AZ to speak at the Western Conservative Conference.—John Guandolo
Some people I admire see today's student mobbism as an outbreak of an ersatz religion, but I'd say their theory of social change is at least comprehensible given the era they inhabit.—David Brooks
I will kill any tax legislation that benefits @Delta unless the company changes its position and fully reinstates its position with @NRA. Corporations cannot attack conservatives and expect us not to fight back.—Casey Cagle
Woman puts up baby for adoption, he grows up to be a violent young man who will spend the rest of his life in prison for a mass murder. Tell me more about how abortions are wrong. #Florida #ParklandSchoolShooting—Hoodie Rebecca
I think it's super weird how people are blaming their diminished sense of well-being on the Trump administration. Personal events determine my quality of life; not who's in the WH.—Paige W. Cunningham
Snappy, alliterative, essentially true—President Trump had coined another one. For the first time, the target of his executive nicknaming was one of his own: "Sloppy Steve" Bannon, his ousted strategist.—NYT National News
Today, the FCC freed the Internet from public utility-style regulation to encourage investment and innovation.—FCC

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 16:44, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

What determines whether a claim to some property (in the broadest sense) is a natural right?

I have a working theory that I use, that I haven't examined in a while. Like me, you've probably reversed a political opinion you've once held, like I did about world government. I didn't know that the United Nations was first chaired by the American communist infiltrator, Alger Hiss. I learned that when Conservative (the user) featured the Alger Hiss article on Main Page Left.

Well, when I first advanced the theory 29 years ago on a discussion board, I was shouted down and scorned. Later, I used it once on a different discussion board to solve a political puzzle someone had posed but without mentioning it in the form of a proposition. He wasn't sure I had the right answer, but he was very surprised, left and never came back!

Conservatives maintain strongly natural rights come from God not distributed out by a government, but how do we determine what is a natural right? VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 18:29, 3 August 2020 (EDT)

Hiss didn't just chair the meeting, he authored the UN Charter, which is still the basis of much international law - written by a Stalinist.
Property is basically an extension of one's labor. For example, a person who builds their own log cabin home. They cut the trees, haul the wood, lumber it, and nail it together. A person who burns down the home didn't just destroy property, they stole time or years of life of the builder. The crime is equal to, or worse than, enslavement, approaching murder (the thief cometh to kill and destroy).
In a monied society, currency represents the labor of workers. Inflation steals their labor and transfers it to others. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 18:48, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Let's talk about the labor theory and then get back to the other threads you started.
Yahoo! had a news service that treated conservatives abusively and consequently through their efforts earned about a million dollars in ill-will by the public. It was an extension of labor, but do we have a natural right to ill-will that the government should take positive steps to help everybody attain? VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 19:04, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
(ec) Walter O. Williams says 'slavery is a moral crime because it interferes with property rights'. What are those property rights? To labor to feed yourself, through working the land or by barter and exchange, not by theft. These are natural rights.
Trade unionists back in the day often said, "everybody has a right to eat"; Marxists today claim "healthcare is a right". Food and healthcare are produced by labor. Nobody has the right to another person's labor (or property, the same thing). That is a violation of natural rights. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:11, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
In the illustration of the builder of the log cabin, let's say it took 2 years of extensive labor to build it. Then another 2 years to replace it. That's a loss of four years enjoyment of the fruit of his labor. He could have easily spent the 2 years or 4 years in some otter pursuit that maybe gave him more enjoyment or profit. Would 8 or 12 years of equal value compensation satisfy the debt of loss to his life? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:25, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
You are talking about the right of compensation for opportunity cost, am I correct? VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 20:10, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Yes, that's one way of stating ot. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 20:11, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Everyone knows Lincoln started the Gettysburg Address with "Four score and seven years ago", a pretty exact number since the founding of the nation, almost as though as he were conveying impatience. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 20:14, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
(ec) Let's say the victim is age 40 at the time of settlement, with a remaining 38 years life expectancy. Let's say he's doubled his compensation of 8 years. The settlement doesn't really compensate for the portion of his life he has to enjoy the fruit of his labor, neither does it take into consideration the decades it took him to acquire the skills. In sum, the point I am really making is the violation of natural rights, be it theft, arson, or even excess taxation, is no small matter that has a huge, unfair impact on the life of the victim that's almost incalculable. We live in society today where governments, political parties, ideologies, and the educational systems venerates impingement on natural rights - the simple basic human right to labor and feed oneself without stealing or violating other people's natural rights. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 20:23, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Gretchen Whitmer would not allow the purchase of seeds for backyard vegetable gardens in the spring planting season during lockdown. This is Holodomor 2.0. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 20:38, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Ha-ha Rob, Rob don't you know the difference between per se and per accidere? They just didn't want anyone lingering or dawdling in the supermarket. It reminds me of that opera, though: The Useless Precaution.
Maybe you remember when a New York City mayor issued orders restricting the size of Big Gulp soda drinks sold at convenience stores. The hue and cry was on every conservative radio and TV talk show and editorial column.
But the government has always been making those exceptions if you can extrapolate from two data points.
Did you know who was the first person to try to regulate the food of New Yorkers? It was Thomas Jefferson. Government established among men to secure "Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" Jefferson? Yes, and I can prove it.
1807: Blood was soon shed, but Jefferson did not shrink. The new army was stationed along the Canada frontier. The gunboats and frigates patrolled the coast. On every side dangers and difficulties accumulated. "I did not expect a crop of so sudden and rank growth of fraud and open opposition by force could have grown up in the United States." At Newburyport an armed mob on the wharf prevented the custom-house officers from detaining a vessel about to sail. The collectors and other officers were ill-disposed, or were harassed by suits at law for illegal detentions. Rebellion and disunion stared Jefferson in the face, but only caused him to challenge an outbreak and to invite violence.
"That the Federalists may attempt insurrection is possible," he wrote to Gallatin, "and also that the governor would sink before it; but the Republican part of the State, and that portion of the Federalists who approve the embargo in their judgments, and at any rate would not court mob law, would crush it in embryo. I have some time ago written to General Dearborn to be on the alert on such an occasion, and to take direction of the public authority on the spot. Such an incident will rally the whole body of Republicans of every shade to a single point,—that of supporting the public authority."
The Federalists knew when to rebel. Jefferson could teach them little on that subject. They meant first to overthrow Jefferson himself, and were in a fair way to gratify their wish; for the people of New England—Republican and Federalist alike—were rapidly rallying to common hatred of the President. As winter approached, the struggle between Jefferson and Massachusetts became on both sides vindictive. He put whole communities under his ban. He stopped the voyage of every vessel "in which any person is concerned, either in interest or in navigating her, who has ever been concerned in interest or in the navigation of a vessel which has at any time before entered a foreign port contrary to the views of the embargo laws, and under any pretended distress or duress whatever." When a permit was asked for the schooner Caroline of Buckstown on the Penobscot, Jefferson replied,—
"This is the first time that the character of the place has been brought under consideration as an objection. Yet a general disobedience to the laws in any place must have weight toward refusing to give them any facilities to evade. In such a case we may fairly require positive proof that the individual of a town tainted with a general spirit of disobedience has never said or done anything himself to countenance that spirit."
Jefferson went still further in his reply to a petition from the island of Nantucket for food. "Our opinion here is that that place has been so deeply concerned in smuggling, that if it wants it is because it has illegally sent away what it ought to have retained for its own consumption."
Of all the old Republican arguments for a policy of peace, the commonest was that a standing army would be dangerous, not to foreign enemies, but to popular liberties; yet the first use of the new army and gunboats was against fellow-citizens. New England was chiefly controlled by the navy; but in New York the army was needed and was employed. Open insurrection existed there. Besides forcible resistance offered to the law, no one was ignorant that the collectors shut their eyes to smuggling, and that juries, in defiance of court and President, refused to indict rioters. Governor Tompkins announced that Oswego was in active insurrection, and called on the President to issue a proclamation to that effect. Jefferson replied by offering to take into the United States service the militia required to suppress the riots, and begged Governor Tompkins to lead his troops in person. "I think it so important in example to crush these audacious proceedings and to make the offenders feel the consequences of individuals daring to oppose a law by force, that no effort should be spared to compass this object."
When permission was asked to establish a packet on Lake Champlain, "I do not think this is a time," replied Jefferson, "for opening new channels of intercourse with Canada and multiplying the means of smuggling." The people who lived on the shores of Lake Champlain might object to such interference in their affairs, but could not deny the force of Jefferson's reasoning. Another application of a different kind was rejected on grounds that seemed to give to the President general supervision over the diet of the people:—
"The declaration of the bakers of New York that their citizens will be dissatisfied, under the present circumstances of their country, to eat bread of the flour of their own State, is equally a libel on the produce and citizens of the State. . . . If this prevails, the next application will be for vessels to go to New York for the pippins of that State, because they are higher flavored than the same species of apples growing in other States."


"I mean generally to express an opinion," continued the [Treasury] secretary [Gallatin], "founded on the experience of this summer, that Congress must either invest the Executive with the most arbitrary powers and sufficient force to carry the embargo into effect, or give it up altogether." That Jefferson should permit a member of his Cabinet to suggest the assumption of "the most arbitrary powers;" that he should tolerate the idea of using means "equally dangerous and odious,"—seemed incredible; but his reply showed no sign of offence. He instantly responded,—
"I am satisfied with you that if Orders and Decrees are not repealed, and a continuance of the embargo is preferred to war (which sentiment is universal here), Congress must legalize all means which may be necessary to obtain its end."
A person, through little or no fault of their own, may not be able to earn much from their honest endeavors. Do claims to the properties (broadly speaking) having to do with natural rights really come from labor then?
VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 23:43, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
That was a tariff issue, not an interstate commerce issue. He was putting America First and protecting the jobs of American farmers from Canadian contraband smugglers. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:53, 3 August 2020 (EDT)
Well...the embargo had to do with England and France, opponents in the Napoleonic wars, forcing America to only buy from them, and Jefferson retaliating by embargoing their whole countries. That caused quite a depression and cost the livelihoods of thousands of otherwise law-abiding people. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 00:09, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
Is this some of the background issues related to the War of 1812 after he Jefferson left office? In GDP terms, the 1812 War is estimated to be the most expensive war in U.S. history. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:18, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
I didn't know that! I'm sure Great Britain insisting the United States and other free nations only buy from her ships when they bought cargo during the start of the Napoleonic Wars didn't help in what led up to the War of 1812. Meanwhile, though, the French wouldn't let anybody visit past the English Channel to trade. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 13:17, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
It has to also be borne in mind that before the income tax, customs and tariffs were by far the primary source of revenue for the federal government. Tax evasion, i.e. smuggling, is a direct challenge to the legitimacy of government. The only direct taxation on the American people from the feds in those days was alcohol, tobacco, and firearms. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:12, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
And the excerpt above is very interesting indeed - relevant to today. I hope to God it isn't Howard Zinn. Who's the source? It gets more interesting on the 3rd, 4th, and 5th reading. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:19, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
Thank you! It was by none other than Henry Adams, grandson of John Quincy Adams. He was an Adams descendant, but wrote long books on Thomas Jefferson and James Madison. Go figure. His father was the American ambassador to Great Britain during the Civil War (He famously said, "You realize, this means war"). He finished History of the United States during the Presidency of Thomas Jefferson (1801-1809) in 1890 and History of the United States during the Presidency of James Madison (1809-1817) in 1891.
Library of America hates me. I put the Jefferson volume on the internet, and they responded by boasting about having the last redaction of the footnotes and lowering the price of the Jefferson volume to two dollars less than the Madison volume. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 22:08, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
As to the War of 1812, maybe I spoke a little too soon; but here's the source and note the fineprint:
the War of 1812 cost about $1.6 billion in today’s prices, which appears, by contemporary standards, to be a relatively small amount. But using commonly available estimates of gross domestic product, the overall U.S. economy 192 years ago was less than 1/1,400th as large as it is now. So at the peak of the conflict in 1813, the war consumed more than 2% of the nation’s measurable economic output, the equivalent of more than $300 billion today.
Now take the $300 billion figure, compress that cost in the span of a year and some months, and compare it to every other war since, some that dragged on 4, 10, or 19 years. 1812 appears to be no small war as often characterized, and a tremendous amount of effort was expended in a relatively short span of time, comparatively.
One last observation from the reading: Unless the revenue from tariffs on imported flour, apples, and other foodstuffs could support a standing army to be used against citizens and foreign enemies, the government had no legitimacy or sovereignty. That's kind of the way capitalism works. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:45, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

RobS, this is a serious question—the Conservapedia Natural rights article is practically empty! VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 01:11, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
I'd have to do some reading and research, but if you want to get the ball rolling, I'll be happy to fill in where I can. We definitely need a property rights article which can spin off. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 01:35, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
I started doing the Socratic question thing because I thought that's what you wanted me to do. Evidently not! Since it's a mainstay of classical liberalism, I wondered if other conservatives had an opinion because, like I implied, I wanted to know if my opinion were way out in left field, and if so, I might be able to correct it and either way, would be able to help educate others.
I also randomly read something in John Stuart Mill this week where he said words like possible, depending on, necessarily, and their opposites had to do with confidence in the truth of propositions and strictly speaking not of things independent of ideas. This was related to the answer I read once and maintained lo these many years. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 04:49, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
I understand an opposite to "natural" is "acquired" as in "acquired right". I think that's the opposite I mean as contradistinction. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 04:54, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
But then again, an opposite of "right" is "privilege", so maybe the opposite I mean of "natural right" is "acquired privilege". VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 04:59, 4 August 2020 (EDT)
My ideas are more precise than they sound; I just want to give general ideas of where I'm going with this. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 06:02, 4 August 2020 (EDT)

Running Mate Pick

Is there a typographical error? Did MPR mean "Michelle" rather than "Michael"? Thanks, FirstAmendment (talk) 15:40, 4 August 2020 (EDT)

Foolishness and laziness causes massive explosion in Beirut. Hanlon's razor strikes again

A monster explosion in Beirut has killed at least 100 people. Hezbollah, Iran's favorite terrorist group, kept 2,750 tons of ammonium nitrate at a warehouse near the port. This explosion may represent part of that cache blowing up prematurely. We should not view this as a problem local to Lebanon. Iran may be planning an offensive that includes targets in other countries. The London police found three tons of Hezbollah's ammonium nitrate in 2015. The Germans found hundreds of kilograms earlier this year. Israel blew up Natanz, Iran's uranium enrichment plant, last month. There was also a suspicious explosion at a missile plant. The Iranian media hasn't had much to say about either of these incidents. But they are doing their best to work the country into a frenzy over the Soleimani assassination. See "Hezbollah stockpiled chemical behind Beirut blast in London and Germany" and "Iran Craving Revenge for Gen. Soleimani’s Blood: IRGC Chief." PeterKa (talk) 18:28, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

So was somebody smoking in the warehouse or did the IDF and CIA pull the plug on Iranian operations? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:25, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
Nobody would let 2,750 tons of NH4 nitrate sit on the shoreline not going to use...it's too valuable! Lebanon is close to going bankrupt. They would have distributed it to farmers to buy votes.
Look at the smoke plume. It's reddish-brown. Isn't ammonium nitrate yellowish-white?
Ammonium nitrate would have flattened the city for over a square mile. Remember Timothy McVeigh had what? A half a ton?
The blast broke glass over six miles away. But the road nearest the shoreline directly across from the conflagration had buildings that were untouched, structurally, besides the glass.
2020 Beirut, Lebanon explosion ground zero.jpg
If you look at the pictures, the rectangular silo 100 ft from where the blast happened was scarred by fire, but still standing sound.
This was a controlled explosion. It all went upward.
What was it then? It's probably octagen, safely stored among civilians, so no one could touch it, used in ballistic missles to enhance the explosion of the nuclear payload. Whom else, but Iran?
Trump said it was probably an attack. Why was Trump smirking about it? What does he care? Unless...
Octagen melts into brownish magma-like mush under high temperatures. It wasn't a detonation; it was a deflagration.
By the way, the mushroom-cloud-like blast, sort of like an H-Bomb, was really just water vapor.
Whomever did it probably spared Israel from another war. I don't think it was Hezbollah. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 20:39, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
135 dead, 5000 wounded, 100 missing, 300,000 homeless, 50% of Beirut damaged, 85% of food stockpiles destroyed
RobSTrump 2Q2Q 20:50, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
Hezbollah is sending out spoof propaganda to avenge Iran against Israel. There were some buildings that were structurally the same looking, but one a pile of rubble and next to it, one that you couldn't tell it had been in an explosion. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 20:56, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
And correction: Timothy McVeigh purchased 2,050 pounds of NH4 nitrate, not 1,000. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 21:01, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
I think it's pretty obvious what happened; as things heat up in the China theatre war zone, the U.S. and Israelis took out a weapons storage cache, making the Chinese think twice about their reliance on an their Iranian allies to create diversions. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:49, 5 August 2020 (EDT)
The ammonium nitrate has been sitting in a warehouse at the port for the past six years. Hezbollah runs the port and the Lebanese government is a helpless bystander. There is a now 500-foot crater where the warehouse was. I don't think there is any question that the ammonium nitrate is to blame. This explosion was magnitude 3.3. The 1947 Texas City explosion was magnitude 2.1 and used 2,087 metric tons ammonium nitrate. They're saying that the Beirut explosion might have been triggered by a welding accident. To the US media, this is a tale of the corruption and incompetence of the Lebanese government. They don't even mention Iran or Hezbollah. Is there anything more important than protecting the ayatollahs and the "legacy" of Obama's glorious deal? PeterKa (talk) 00:11, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
Gatewaaypundit says Natanyahu identified the site 2 years ago. I doubt Gatewaypundit would run the story if they were asked not to. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 00:28, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
I don't think the location was ever secret. This ammonium nitrate was confiscated from a ship bound for Mozambique back in 2014. The owners sued to get it back. The powerless customs service has been sending out "urgent matters" letters to anyone who will listen. But Hezbollah was never interested in giving up its terrorist ammunition dump. PeterKa (talk) 01:58, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
You don't need to tell us it left a crater, all we need to do is look at the picture! You'll also note in that picture the unaffected apartment buildings across the road.
You can tell how small the crater is; the destruction of the dock itself is isolated to that one slip, and somehow the silo next to it was left standing almost as a precision cut. Can you seriously believe an ammonium nitrate explosion wouldn't have knocked down that silo and/or destroyed the dock much more? Isn't it obvious the octogen burned a hole and breached the underground portion of the silo where that fuel poured in and then, the explosive having cooled down to a detonatable temperature and using that hole like a gun barrel, exploded straight upward?
Before the big explosion there were two smaller ones. At one point it looked and sounded like miniature firecrackers were popping all at once. Those were the warheads stored there exploding in the heat.
"HMX, also called octogen, is a powerful and relatively insensitive nitroamine high explosive, chemically related to RDX."—another wiki
"Iran intends to produce the powerful explosive Octogen for use in the warheads of its missiles to improve their 'destructive and penetration power,' Iranian Defense Minister Brigadier General Hossein Dehqan said Wednesday.
Octogen is used as an explosive in penetrating missile warheads and as a solid rocket fuel — but is also employed as part of the detonator in an atomic bomb. The Times of Israel, April 7, 2016.
Nobody knows what happened to the ammonium nitrate, but after a certain point Iran stored various contraband weapons material there for years.
This is confirmed by a Beirut news site, Al Arabiya, which reported:
"Initial information: The explosion occurred in a Hezbollah arms store in Beirut Port."
Octogen has a very narrow range of liquefaction. It's a stable solid without the application of direct flame until 270° C. Once it gets above 280° C it starts to boil away without exploding. Boiling it was an idea in shaping the explosion by draining as much energy as possible before it couldn't be stopped from igniting. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 03:40, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
The ammonium nitrate had been in its city location for an extended time - like 6 years.[24] It should have never been stored in a city location for an extended time and seemed to get bogged down in incompetent bureaucracy. It should have been stored in a remote location and closely monitored.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."- Hanlon's razor Conservative (talk) 03:04, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Okay! I won't be talking about this again. If you want to read the latest update on this theory here is the accumulated info in one long Twitter thread by HeshmatAlavi. He has 77,000 followers and writes about the hidden connections to Tehran of the Iranian regime's defenders. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 08:00, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
IMO, the claim that there was no malice involved is motivated by the desire to protect Hezbollah, Iran, and Obama's nuclear deal. Ammonium nitrate is worth money as fertilizer. The building that blew up was controlled by Hezbollah. The Lebanese government does not have the ability to force Hezbollah to follow safety protocol. Inspectors might have discovered that a significant amount ammonium nitrate went missing over the years. After all, the stuff has shown up in terrorist arms caches in both Britain and in Germany. I suspect a lot of it was sold to farmers. The world's nastiest terrorist group had full access to this stuff for seven years. PeterKa (talk) 09:55, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Here is an interview with the captain of the MV Rhosus, the ship that brought the ammonium nitrate to Beirut. He says the owner told him to make an unscheduled stop and unload the cargo. Then nobody claimed it. His recommendation was to distribute to farmers in Lebanon as fertilizer. It seems that Hezbollah had other plans.
Mozambique denied that it ever received notification that the Rhosus shipment was due. Beirut is not a waystation on the Georgia-to-Mozambique route. In short, the operation was a ruse from the beginning. Igor Grechushkin, the ship's owner, lives in Cyprus and is being questioned by police there. See "Israel TV: Hezbollah apparently wanted Beirut’s ammonium nitrate for Israel war." PeterKa (talk) 01:46, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
What have you heard about Pelosi adding money back into a bill for the Lebanese military just days or weeks ago? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 14:52, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

500 Internal Server Error

Nothing else is worth talking about on this site until "500 Internal Server Error" stops popping up. This site has been broken for 90% of the day. Shobson20 (talk) 20:45, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

It's hard finding those brief windows when this site works to even get messages through. Shobson20 (talk) 20:49, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

Democrat mania

So what's the Democrat strategy?

They have been trained to shout down all opposition as being illegitimate.


Therefore, they're implementing a strategy based on the assumption that everyone agrees with them.


The pre-failed Democratic strategy results from leftists thinking that a lack of vocal opposition means agreement. And that's why they think that everyone is a radical leftist.

Leftists started out by saying that WORDS are violence.


Because that allows them to carry out unprovoked physical assaults and call them "self-defense." Then they moved on to IDEAS are violence. The physical assaults can be ratcheted up in the name of self defense. NOW, we're at SILENCE is violence. This is straight out of George Orwell's 1984.

It's not enough to kill someone for dissenting. First you must CONVERT them, and then they'll beg for death because they transgressed. The final step—which we're seeing in the Democratic platform—is that EXISTENCE is violence. Leftists have accepted reverse Jim Crow. And Nazism.

White people must be socially, politically, academically, and commercially exterminated. The NAZIS' first step. When you add this to the notion that we are what we say we are, it's a recipe for genocide. In order to continue to exist, whites must take a pledge to identify as people of color. And they must agree to be second-class citizens.

Leftists think that everyone agrees with them:


By merely existing, he's FORCING people to burn down cities.

They believe this to be a winning strategy. It's because they don't listen, and they insist on imposing their ideas by force.@COsweda

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:06, 6 August 2020 (EDT)

I bet the dems are also making this site constantly break with DDOS attacks and constantly creating 500 Internal Server Errors. Shobson20 (talk) 23:47, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
No...you're the only one getting them. We're trying to drop a hint that you need to shape up! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 23:51, 6 August 2020 (EDT)
LiberalTears is apparently getting them too. Shobson20 (talk) 00:01, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
What do you mean, shape up? If this is about recent spats, I've been trying to help stop them. Besides, DavidB4 has been getting it too, and he thinks it might be a DDoS. Shobson20 (talk) 00:47, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Well, those two...I'm just kidding. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 00:49, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I'm not laughing, I've been so incensed from being locked out of this site for most of the day, and the thought that you were doing it deliberately made me absolutely enraged. It wasn't funny. Shobson20 (talk) 00:55, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I'm sorry. I'm mortified, I didn't mean to do that. Sometimes I'll post something and that message comes up, and I say to myself, "was this edit that bad?" I thought others felt that way too. Sorry again. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:02, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
[promoted by VM] Here's the strategy: They will stuff the ballot box in enough states with Democrat Secretaries of State with enough mail ballots to create enough confusion to make the 2000 Florida recount look like a picnic. The same "Trump-Russia" media apparatus will pound in our heads that Trump is a sore loser. Lawsuits in a dozen states challenging recounts will overwhelm the U.S. Supreme Court, and it won't be able to sort it all out before Electors meet. Democrat Secretaries of State will ignore ongoing lawsuits and declare their electors for Biden. Pelosi, #2 in succession after Trump-Pence are voted out, will assume the roll of Commander-in-Chief and have the Pentagon fumigate Trump out of the White House. Contingencies are place. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 01:11, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I think you have a good point about Democrat Secretaries of State (in the sense that should not be trusted). For example, in Arizona, it was oddly suspicious that Katie Hobbs would let Sen. McSally's primary challenger use his campaign slogan as part of his name on the ballot (see here). If that's permissible, then would Trump be able to put "MAGA" next to his name on the ballot for the presidential election? I'm pretty sure the reason that it was allowed was to promote a schism in the Republican Party in Arizona, making it easier to hand Democrats a victory there with the help the latter is already getting from fake pollsters and "nonpartisan" election ratings that act as continuous suppression attempts via making it seem hopeless for Republicans to win there. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 01:47, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Recall the media circus of the Florida Recount. Now multiply that times 12 simultaneously. A winner will not be declared election nite, what with some states allow 7 days to declare a winner like Nevada. Then factor in that the MSM and fake polls have Trump losing,. On election night, MSM reports Biden ahead but irregularities all over the map. Trump files lawsuits but MSM for the next few keep upo the drumbeat, Biden won. Biden won. Biden won. But the irregularities get no coverage. I'm not sure yet if Biden won the Iowa caucuses, honestly. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 01:55, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Problems for the Democrats with this scenario: If 12 Democrat State Secretaries of State call voting irregularities, the odds that they would all be Democratic states under random chance are 212 or 1 in 4096. They can't say "Democrats haven't had vote counting problems" and "Who would have believed the odds lined up like that?" You can only pick one or the other.
And even if there are widespread problems due to sabotage, the Democrats can't ignore the results of the election if Trump is ahead in non-disputed areas, and throw it to Biden. There could be legislation to delay the counting deadline. If you remember Bush/Gore 2000, the Supreme Court can quickly take up appeals to the intention of the Constitution.
Also, Trump has reversed the usual dynamic of a Presidential re-election being a referendum on the incumbent and laid that on the Democrats and their mob activity.
Maybe you haven't heard this one, but someone suggested the west coast might secede. But all Trump would have to do is send in the army to arrest the rebel governors. The West Coast is either sick of the rioters or sick of the hamfisted disaster power-posturing.
Fake polls: The problem with the fake polls is not actually that they're fake, but that [they] proceed from unlikely assumptions. The pollsters are afraid of lawsuits. Of course the media love hiding the meaning of the assumptions, but in such a case, every conservative pundit and TV and radio show host will give Americans a crash course in how to adjust underlying assumptions using all the evidence, like last year's elections, exit polls and surprises or lack of surprises in turnout in states that do it right.
If the media and officials try the drumbeat thing, the less-informed American voters will look and say "it's all of a piece!" Democrat mob excitement (if not mayhem) and attempts at election cheerleading.
You can't send in massive mail ballots and not expect to get slapped with mail fraud charges. We found out during the Obama Administration that the United States Post Office photographs every single piece of mail sent in the United States. And then at least one these lowlifes will inform on their boss and get him booked for conspiracy.
But thanks for sharing your concerns. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 03:44, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
I think we can as early as June this year that the final outcome is headed for the courts. There will be no final determination election night. Irregularities will be reported even in states with GOP secretaries of state. But it will be difficult for CNN and MSNBC to provide round-the-clock recount coverage as in Florida 2000; it'll all have to be consolidated at CNN "election headquarters". While the focus is on a larger state such as Florida, meantime Nevada sneaks in 6 electors putting Biden over the top which CNN and Pelosi quickly rubber stamp before team Trump and SCOTUS are able to act. Perceptions are everything.
Some people still believe Gore won Florida, Trump colluded with Russia, Saddam had WMD, Building 7 was knocked down by Zionists, Clinton did not have sex with that woman, Reagan was a closet member of the KKK, Anita Hill was telling the truth, Owen Lattimore was not a communist, FDR knew about Pearl Harbor before hand, the Civil War was about states rights, or for that matter the Rock the Christian Church was built on is Peter and not Christ. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:04, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Great segué, RobS! Christ is the chief cornerstone, after all. But remember when you listen to Liz Cheney in Congress that Saddam was himself a WMD. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 15:56, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

Incredible story

The Spectator reported the medical examiner's toxicology report for George Floyd, and it was amazing. It looks as though George Floyd had taken Fentanyl minutes before as a suicide attempt.

The probable reason why he didn't want to get into the police car was because he didn't want to die there on the way to the police station.

The website reported he had taken three times a fatal dose, and asked to be allowed to lie in the street. Also, he was apparently still speaking when the ambulance was only four blocks away.

And the depressant drug had already started to work on his diaphragm muscles while he was still standing, as he said then that he couldn't breathe.

Also, from observation, I said I thought he had been lain on his back, and that that may have caused him to asphyxiate from the weight of his depressed (involuntarily relaxed) diaphragm muscles causing him to be unable to expand his lungs. But days later, and confirmed in the new chest camera videos released, it was said in the news he had been lain on his stomach, and I think there was a voice that said at one point, "that's why we're laying him on his stomach." If anything, being lain in the street on his stomach kept him conscious longer.

The chest camera as released also shows the police had taken proper steps to care for Floyd while he was in their custody in a case where it was still in doubt in the media. The ambulance approaching had been told they were urgently needed (or at least requested at elevated concern) even when he was still speaking lucidly, and the paramedics had just missed being able to speak to Floyd by four blocks. I don't know what remains in terms of negligence on their part. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:36, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

Please put this detail on MPR

Has anyone else seen a recent attack ad by the Lincoln Project Stinkin' Project attacking Susan Collins? They absurdly claimed that she "never stands up to Donald Trump", as if one thought that Never Trumpers couldn't have a shorter memory span, not to mention any bit of common sense. And Collins is setting the record straight. Not that I particularly like Susan Collins much (especially her pathetic vote earlier this year against banning late-term abortions), but some of the attacks on her aren't just false, they're blatantly outrageous. I wonder where's PolitiFake when you need them? The latter just doesn't fact-check some of the most outrageous claims made by Democrats and over-zealous anti-Trumpers. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 13:50, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

I think we ought to add more updates and important details for the Senate elections on MPR; they are almost just as important as the presidential election, as the upper chamber is the one that confirms judicial nominees. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 13:54, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

One problem is the delays in primaries and ballot box stuffing, etc.; I still don't know what happened in the Loffler/Doug Collins contest in Georgia. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 14:39, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
So for the Senate special election in Georgia, I think what would happen is that all the candidates compete in one race coinciding with the normal general elections (a jungle primary) that are held on November 3; if no one gets a majority of the votes, then the top two performers compete in a runoff held early next year. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 14:59, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Also, what about the detail I mentioned regarding Susan Collins? Do you suppose you could type it in your own words and put it on MPR? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 15:01, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Write up a headline and I'll post it.
So Doug Collins and Loeffler meet in November? I saw a good paid advertisement on Gatewaypundit for Doug Collins last week, then a hard-hiiting pro-conservative add for Loeffler the other day somewhere else. It gets very confusing, especially since both are advertising in national publications and there won't be a decision til November. And since Loeffler is the establishment candidate, she probably can outspend Doug by November. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:02, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Alright, so here's my idea for an MPR headline:

Sen. Susan Collins, normally known for being a RINO, fires back after an extremely anti-Trump group ridiculously claimed that she "never stands up to Donald Trump". [25] The facts are clear: Collins bucked with Trump on ACA repeal efforts, Betsy DeVos, banning late-term abortions, and Iran war powers.

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 17:41, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

"In fact, while Trump was fighting the Deep State, I was secretly enmeshed in the Deep State!"
I can come up with these all day. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 18:35, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
So what's your point, Vargas? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 18:57, 7 August 2020 (EDT)
Why do you ask? It looks like your mind is ↓↓↓ made up already. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 00:47, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
If you can come up with great headline ideas, then do you usually do that in requesting certain news to be put on MPR? I noticed that you talk here quite a bit, and since this is for content related to the main page, I'm kind of curious on how often it is that the information in the sections you put here are posted by an administrator on MPR, excluding the specification of fixing grammar/wording errors. After all, if your activity on this site is unproductive, it could potentially count as a violation of the 90/10 rule. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 01:34, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
You're not in a position to be able to deliberate about those kinds of things, especially if you are changing the subject after someone merely comments on your headline suggestion. My activities don't threaten your proposals in the slightest, unless your proposals are ill-intended, in which case they are hardly "great". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 17:08, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
Now hold on a second, Vargas. So you can break CP rules, but I can't question you over it? Are you serious about setting this type of impression, especially on hard-working editors like me who devote several hours of time every day to improvising Conservapedia? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 18:57, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
Vargas work on coronavirus and China issues is invaluable, being that the information pouring across our desks daily is far too much than anyone can handle. It is a sort of division of labor here. RobSTrump 2Q2Q
Now hold on a sec; Does that excuse him from the 90/10 rule? If he's great at gathering useful information, can't he add it to the respective content pages? It'd be a double standard for most editors here to abide by the rules while Vargas gets to talk, talk, and talk without making very significant mainspace edits. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 18:48, 8 August 2020 (EDT)
Yes and no; collaborative editing should be a team effort. Some people are great researchers and horrible prose writers; others are great prose writers but need material to feed on. Still others have talent as copy editors or technical skills. All this requires discussion and coordination, and building relationships. No man is an island. If talk because nonsensical and a waste of other peoples time, it's soon apparent. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:01, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

Thank you RobSmith for posting my proposed headline on MPR! —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Friday, 18:57, 7 August 2020 (EDT

Biden running mate pick

The next big news story is expected to be a super-nova of self-congratulation. Kamala Harris's odds of being chosen as Joe Biden's running mate is floating around 40% in the political futures market. Followed by Susan Rice at 25%.

Flashback: she's a bad candidate, but she has a good theme song:

She's smart!
She's strong!
With Ká má-lá you-can't-go-wrong-she's
She's strong!
With Ká má-lá you-can't-go-wrong-she's...

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 18:59, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

Related news: Biden cancels trip to Milwaukee to accept nomination. Because skipping Wisconsin worked out so well last time.—@hale_razor.

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 19:07, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

Here's something to consider: if Harris is picked for VP and Biden somehow manages to win the presidential election with the help of massive election fraud, then who would be appointed to replace her for the Senate seat until 2022? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Sunday, 19:08, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
That kind of question would be dwarfed by the event proposed in your hypothesis. A strategic execution of that magnitude really isn't possible to go undetected by law enforcement with Trump at the helm. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 20:06, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
The odds shifted dramatically in Kamala Harris's favor after someone photographed Joe Biden's talking points ten days ago: "“Do not hold grudges.” “Campaigned with me & Jill.” “Talented.” “Great help to campaign.” “Great respect for her.”"[26] Pundits are saying that the running mate will run the country if Biden is elected. I wonder if Jill Biden sees it that way. When Woodrow Wilson was incapacitated, his wife Edith took over. PeterKa (talk) 23:02, 9 August 2020 (EDT)
If it's not Michelle Obama or Susan Rice, the pledge to pick a woman of color is probably out the window. Biden's probably not making the pick anyway, but rather the DNC Politburo that's making all the decisions right now. Consultants, focus groups, polling, etc. targeted in a few states and districts necessary in their electoral map strategy. Possibly a Pennsylvanian or Floridian. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:31, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

Clean up on Isle 13

[27] RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:01, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

Kamala Harris would outlaw dissent

By selecting Kamala Harris as his running mate, Biden is sending a message that abusive prosecution would be A-OK with a Biden adminstraton. According to Harris, climate realists are a bunch of "warming deniers" who should go to jail for securities fraud. To fight Christians, Obama leaked the tax returns of the National Organization for Marriage. Today's liberals don't think he went far enough. See here and here. PeterKa (talk) 19:58, 11 August 2020 (EDT

Who can forget Tulsi Gabbard's awesome takedown of Harris? See "Tulsi Destroys Kamala & Kamala Blames Russia!" This is easily the campaign's most entertaining moment. Go Tulsi! PeterKa (talk) 05:47, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
How can you say that? I went to Twitter search (they've apparently started showing profiles of people there) and was very suprised to see a large ad for a feature about how America loves Kamala Harris now, splashed across the screen, including a large picture of her! She looked adorable!
I was surprised because I remember how her support dropped to 2% among Democratic voters, partly because she prosecuted blacks while giving illegal aliens from Mexico all kinds of privileges meant for American citizens. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 06:40, 12 August 2020 (EDT)

Not only has Harris insinuated that Biden is a racist, but she has stated that she believes the women who have accused Biden of sexual assault: "I believe them and I respect them being able to tell their stories and having the courage to do it."[28] How do you get over burned bridges like those? "Vote for the racist! Vote for the sex criminal!" Pay some money to Hunter, find a woman that Joe can sniff the hair of, and the Bidens are under control. PeterKa (talk) 07:00, 12 August 2020 (EDT)

Let's see how she's dealing with jailing blacks for marijuana while joking about using the drug herself, and maybe this will give you an answer:
"Kamala has become the main Senate sponsor of the Marijuana Opportunity, Reinvestment, and Expungement (MORE) Act."
I.e.: Like Mayor Bill deBlasio, plaster new, opposite wrong acts over whatever previous wrong acts she had been publicized as having committed! VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 07:58, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
Another corrupt prosecutor - that's all America needs at this moment in time. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:17, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
It is widely assumed that Harris will run the country if Biden is elected. That simplifies Republican messaging. If you look at the results from Iowa or New Hampshire, my spin is that Democrats didn't have the heart to tell pollsters that Biden was a doofus who wasn't up to the job of being president, or anything else really. Harris is easier to hate. She is the new Hillary and you can rerun the hits from 2016.
Harris doesn't bring a battleground state with her. She has little or no likability. If Biden wins the election, she would force him out, or at least boss him around. So what's in it for Biden? I suspect that there was a deal made at the time of the South Carolina primary. The donors would force the minor candidates out, Harris would be named running mate, and cabinet positions will be for sale, as they were under Obama. PeterKa (talk) 22:58, 12 August 2020 (EDT)
You give Harris too much credit. The committee that selected Harris for Biden will be running Harris once Biden is declared brain dead. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 19:35, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Server errors

Can someone please explain what's going on? After the site finally loaded after yesterday's database error, all the restorations made by Andy following the previous server error got wiped out, and I have no idea why. It's becoming more and more frustrating to have to deal with these types of problems when trying to make large edits because all the page view counts get wiped out when the edits associated with them disappear. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 10:24, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Sorry for the technical issues, which we are working through. Appreciate your patience and will have more information as we review this further. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:31, 19 August 2020 (EDT)
I don't mind technical issues once in a while, though it does get annoying when edits get wiped out. Andy, are the contributions that got erased still retrievable? —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 11:47, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Gold financial standard mentioned on MPR

Just a brief note: I'm someone who's been watching the debt/GDP ratio for years and have kept articles current to hold those in government accountable who overspend regardless of party, but I'm not as worried about Trump's recent $3 trillion debt increases as I was. If Trump is able to win a peace treaty between Saudi Arabia and Israel (as the centerpiece among other such treaties between Israel and Middle Eastern nations), then his modernization of the military (and he's done quite a lot) was worth it.

Recently, maybe you saw the time Trump said he was pulling out of Syria, and he held a press conference to explain; at one point he reinforced he was leaving Syria and stepped away from the podium, somebody spoke, and he quickly stepped back and said, "Oh yes, except for the oilfields [that the U.S. would occupy]."

Apparently Trump was only seeming to be distracted, and Putin took the bait and sent in a Russian mercenary force the Russians said had gone rogue. And apparently next the force was close to being utterly destroyed before Russia asked the United States to stop and allow them to retreat.

Trump didn't have any trouble with his withdrawal from Syria after that. The hoped-for ensuing peace from his military modernization could, of paramount importance, expect to attain to the relief and thanks of America's long-suffering military families. But it also may very well have long-term cost savings that in the future we will also look to admire for relieving our large debts. The recovery of the stock market to pre-Wuhan virus levels may reflect institutional investors anticipating those savings right now as well.

Democrats talk and talk at their convention, while Trump racks up the accomplishments. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 10:44, 19 August 2020 (EDT)

Ann Coulter says Kamala Harris is legally eligible to hold the office of Vice President, but earlier observed that Harris even failed the bar exam

"I don't think so! May have been a bad decision but in 1898 S. Ct held children born in U.S. to legal immigrants (not ambassadors, etc) are American citizens." (August 16, 2020)

San Francisco, Kamala's region, also is failing due to the abuses of its townspeople by its ultra-liberalism. In mid-July 2020 the number of real estate lots for sale had doubled over the previous year. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 00:39, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

Odds increase in Trump's favor even as Democrats try to run their anti-Trump convention

It's not as surprising as you might think; the chumps who run the Democratic Party didn't buy any social media ads the week during the convention they are trying to run, so Trump had no competing bids and got some deals on publicity spending while ensuring the public is now suffering cognitive dissonance from the exposure of the Democrats' false talking points this week. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 01:54, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

The Democrats have run another very corrupt and incompetent individual. They learned nothing from 2016.Conservative (talk) 07:43, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

What happened to Joe Biden's intellect?

Joe Biden was actually a master debater during (now) Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas's confirmation hearings. We're supposed to think his ability disappeared during the Obama presidency. I thought he hid his debating abilities for the purpose of not upstaging Obama.

But why wouldn't he hide his intellect for four years more afterwards if he could during the interim and then persuade a South Carolinian Senator to persuade his constituents to vote for him during the primaries (which swung him to victory) by revealing the ruse and bumbling around while dodging tough questions?

After all, the only debates he had were against novice Sarah Palin and globalist Paul Ryan! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 07:38, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

To be honest, I'm actually quite surprised Paul Ryan actually LOST against Biden, since Biden's repeatedly chuckling regarding Ryan's constant references to lost jobs among Americans should have been a good way to lose the debate against Ryan (heck, I'm surprised the GOP didn't use that as a soundbyte for an attack ad. I know I would have in their position). Pokeria1 (talk) 07:55, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Pokeria, Biden would have claimed, "I was chuckling because I didn't believe the statistic." You might have seen RobS and I go back and forth about unemployment rates and "dis-employment" rates during the earlier phases of the Wuhan virus pandemic. Those kinds of ideas show that there would wiggle room for Biden to say that. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 00:56, 22 August 2020 (EDT)


Judiciary Committee Chairman Biden: "[From memory] The exception...to unsworn statements being placed in the record...is when...the witnesses...stipulate...that they're admissible,...when the parties mentioned in the statements stipulate they are admissible and when the Committee...stipulates they are admissible...which is the case of the Angela Wright stipulation—correct? That is different, so no one confuse later...that there's a fundamental distinction.
"Now...Senator...[quietly, while looking at Senator Allen Spector] who-uh do you have here...." (October 13, 1991, Clarence Thomas hearings).

That was when he was only forty-eight years old. Most debaters are in their prime at seventy.

Mark Levin used to call Joe Biden "the dumbest man in the Senate," but he really had a subtle intellect, and I think he had a reputation for that that Mark Levin was trying to counter, but eventually the jab Levin used actually came to hide his debating skills.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 08:31, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

The Japanese live about 6 years longer than Americans if memory serves and Alzheimer's disease is the 15th leading cause of death in Japan.[29] The Japanese are significantly thinner than Americans as well and have a "fat tax".
Alzheimer's disease is the 6th leading cause of death in the USA (or at the very least, its up there).[30][31]
Americans need to: slim down, eat more fish and eat less meat/dairy.[32]
Joe Biden is Catholic. If only Joe Biden was a stricter Catholic and ate fish every Friday! Stained glass windows, big cathedrals, fish on Fridays, some ethical nonprofit charities and better hospitals than secular hospitals (see: Religious hospitals vs. secular hospitals: Quality of care). Speaking as an ex-Catholic, these are the best things about Catholicism!Conservative (talk) 10:11, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Previously, I joked about having mandatory boot camps/fat farms for overweight Americans who are overweight due to non-medical reasons. Setting my previously joking aside, I wouldn't be against a "fat tax" in the USA given that taxpayers fund Medicaid/Medicare and businesses are paying a lot for medical insurance for their employees.Conservative (talk) 10:16, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
You're right. Maybe Joe Biden ate more meat and less fish than he should have, and that caused cognitive decline, and he's not "hiding" anything in the way of debating abilities. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 10:35, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
If Oprah Winfrey, Mark Cuban or Michelle Obama would have run, the Democrats would be in better position to win in 2020. My guess is that none of these people want the POTUS position. Post Richard Nixon, the position has lost some of its lustre.Conservative (talk) 13:37, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

Interesting elaboration on post above: "In the first case, Lapo Filistrucchi and Jens Prüfer of Tilburg University studied the healthcare strategies of Catholic and Protestant hospitals in Germany. At the time of their study, in 2006 and 2008, approximately 830 of the 1,930 hospitals in Germany operated as nonprofits. Of this number, 40 percent identified as Catholic and 23 percent as Protestant. The study found that though the Protestant hospitals were smaller than the Catholic hospitals, they provided relatively more complex treatment procedures to fewer patients. The Catholic hospitals in the study tended to provide less specialized treatment, opting instead to help as many patients as possible. This would suggest, of course, that while in Germany at the next Oktoberfest, you might want to go to a Protestant hospital if you have a gall bladder attack from the over-consumption of bratwurst but a Catholic hospital if you sprain your wrist from drinking beer out of an oversized bierkrug (stein)."[33]Conservative (talk) 13:53, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

If you've had the time to listen to the 1975 NPR broadcast on the soundcloud link from the Biden page about his 1975 Amendment that repealed court ordered busing, in the NPR interview Biden says, "we social engineers". Social engineering was controversial enough in 1975, and few if any people ever stepped forward to identify themselves as a "social engineer" (I can't think of another over the past 45 years). Social engineering today is just, if not even more controversial than back then, although in todays context it's more related to open borders than affirmative action or busing. And usually when you hear the term, it's in a pejorative sense which nobody on the left is willing to step forward and own (they use terms like "change", etc). I'm amazed thus far nobody, on the left or right, has raised the issue of Biden calling himself a "social engineer" as a young Senator in the 1970s, either to attack him or defend him as some sort of civil rights activist. That statement in that interview is truly a "Bidenesque" defining moment. Do we elect senators to be representatives or "social engineers"? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 17:35, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Defining moment? C'mon RobS. Wasn't it just 32-year-old Senator Biden repeating a buzzword that he had heard? VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 23:42, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
But on the other hand, I agree with you the remark helps point out there's no doubt Biden is an elitist or was an elitist (among other things) as shown by his quotes during the Civil Rights Act rollback he spearheaded (see Joseph Biden#Segregation section that RobS wrote), as much as Biden tried to hide it (and still does).
I should have said, "C'mon man!" (There's a video of Biden saying this phrase on a dozen or more occasions during the campaign, often when he wants to change an uncomfortable subject, that are strung together by video edits). VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 21:58, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
Here's you thumbnail talking point that is 100% factual - "The Biden Amendment of 1975 repealed portions of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 to make school segregation legal again." Take it to the bank. No fact checkers can deny it. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:00, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
Oh, and "social engineering" is also used by gay and transgender rights activists. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:03, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Third Temple

Does Conservapedia have a position on rebuilding the Temple? These edits to MPR seem to be quite enthusiastic about the idea. But I would say that there are some problems theologically. Paul tells us that the "man of lawlessness" will "take his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God." (2 Thessalonians 2:3-4) PeterKa (talk) 08:12, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

If memory serves, one could reasonably guess that Jesus kicks the antichrist out of his seat in the temple of God and then reigns during the 1,000 years of the millenium (The early church practiced premillenialism as far as their eschatology[34][35]). Christian Zionists (and perhaps others) maintain that the temple needs to be rebuilt before Jesus returns.[36]Conservative (talk) 10:25, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Godly Jews and Christians should rebuild the Temple so that anti-Christ can preach from it? For the Crusaders, the Dome of the Rock was the Temple. As for the temples described in Ezekiel and Revelation, those don't sound like something you could build physically. PeterKa (talk) 23:14, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) wrote in Pensée 726: "p. 659. Talmud [I don't know what edition Pascal used]
'It is a tradition among us, that, when the Messiah shall come, the house of God, destined for the dispensation of His Word, shall be full of filth and impurity; and that the wisdom of the scribes shall be corrupt and rotten. Those who shall be afraid to sin, shall be rejected by the people, and treated as senseless fools.'"
VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 23:37, 21 August 2020 (EDT)
If the anti-Christ will sit in the Temple in the end-times, as pre-millennials believe, than I suppose someone has to rebuild it. But the idea that Christians should get the end times rolling with a construction project in Jerusalem is a distinctly modern one. PeterKa (talk) 08:26, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

800,000,000 page views

We have now attained 800,000,000 page views! VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 01:05, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
I posted it up! <big>Over<small>'''.'''</small>8 Billion page views!</big>'''
Maybe I can put this on my resume for a job with the DCCC or CNN. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:49, 22 August 2020 (EDT)
Great humor, Rob. Congratulations to you and all the editors!!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:08, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

Biden 2008 versus Biden 2020

How did Biden manage to give a coherent acceptance given his well-advertised mental decline? Practice makes perfect. He gave essentially the same speech when he was nominated for vice president in 2008. Here is an amazing line-by-line comparison. "Alternative energy" has been updated to "clean energy." But whatever you call it, it's still going to give us "five million new jobs." How can it be the same number of jobs twelve years later? Because the number was always nonsense. You can spend money on anything and create jobs. I thought alternative energy/clean energy was supposed to prevent the Earth from burning up. PeterKa (talk) 13:54, 22 August 2020 (EDT)

If Democrats ever get full controls again they will:

  • Pass new environmental regulations that will ban most private vehicles, most forms of electrical generation, ban fracking and shoot gas prices through the roof.
  • Pass gun control laws that will effectively ban almost all private gun ownership
  • Put activist judges on all the courts that will never properly enforce the constitution again
  • Let in illegal immigrants completely unrestrained
  • Let criminals tear the country apart

Have I missed anything? Shobson20 (talk) 00:32, 23 August 2020 (EDT)

  • Put white males in gulag re-education camps. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 00:48, 23 August 2020 (EDT)
The DNC speakers had nothing at all to say about what was the biggest issue in the national politics until just a week ago: rioting against the police. They have apparently polled and focus grouped this issue and decided that it doesn't work anymore. I guess we can breathe a sigh of relief that another 1968 has been sidestepped. In the top battleground states, Trump is four points behind Biden. That's slightly better than how he was doing against Hillary at this point in 2016.[37]
BLM was created by Obama and my spin is that the riots were his big play. They didn't give him what he wanted. The convention didn't even give Biden a poll bounce. At this point, the best idea they have is to get a Texas pastor to tell us that Trump is going to hell because he is building a border wall. Perhaps he should read Nehemiah. This is a book of the Old Testament where the hero is a guy who rebuilds the Jerusalem city wall. PeterKa (talk) 02:23, 23 August 2020 (EDT)
These concerns are why we must keep the Senate. If the Democrats take over the upper chamber, they may try to eliminate the filibuster. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Sunday, 08:52, 23 August 2020 (EDT)

NYU segregrates student dorms

I am old enough to remember when Kamala Harris accused Joe Biden of being a racist for supporting segregation. See "New York University moves to implement racial segregation in student dorms." One thing I learned from this article is that "safe space" is the new word for segregated. PeterKa (talk) 12:54, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

MPR medical question

If America swallowed the rancid smorgasbord that was the Democratic National Convention, what can we expect our symptoms to be, and when can we expect them to show? I am especially worried about trauma to the Legislative organ of the House of Representatives. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 23:05, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Main page news

2 notable things to place in the news column?

1. It should be clarified that the 600% larger Republican audience is on C-Span, and that these numbers are not representative of interest in the convention as a whole, as is implied by the news item.

2. A possible news item to include? TrumpConservative (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2020 (EDT)

Now on Fox News as well. TrumpConservative (talk) 10:36, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Media will announce Biden won, whatever the result

In 2016, the media was beyond overconfident that Hillary would win. To them, the only legitimate question was: Was her chance of winning 98 percent or 99 percent? Dems in the "Blue Wall" states certainly thought the outcome was predetermined, at least in their states. It seems that they had other important things to do on election day. The Greeks called this problem hubris. But the Dems don't see it as a problem at all. In fact, they plan to double down. Can the media give Biden the presidency simply by announcing that he won loudly and often enough? We are going to find out. See "Hillary Clinton Urges Joe Biden to ‘Not Concede’ on Election Day ‘Under Any Circumstances’." What Hillary is proposing is the end of democracy, at least in the sense of a system in which elections are allowed to decide major issues. PeterKa (talk) 03:53, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Minnesota district attorney of county where George Floyd died received word he OD'd on June 1

Filed in District Court
State of Minnesota
8/25/2020 3:36 PM

Community Prosecution Division


TO: State v. Eric Chauvin - file
FROM: Amy Sweasy
RE: Notes from conversation with Dr. Andrew Baker, Chief Hennepin County Medical Examiner
DATE: June 1, 2020

On May 31, 2020, at 7:30 p.m., Assistant Hennepin County Attorney Patrick Lofton and I met with Dr. Andrew Baker (AB) on Microsoft Teams. All three of us were in different locations. Dr. Baker said he had (and had recently received) the final toxicology results from Mr. George Floyd's samples which were analyzed by NMS labs.

AB shared his screen and showed us the results. He said that where it says, "Hospital Blood," those samples are from Mr. Floyd's hospital admission and were not acquired at autopsy. AB said that these samples are better for determining actual blood toxicity than samples taken at autopsy. Samples taken at autopsy may have undergone "post mortem distribution."

AB walked us down the list of substances for which NMS labs tested. Those values he highlighted were:

4ANPP -- A precursor and metabolite of fentanyl present in Mr. Floyd's blood.
Methamphetamine — 19 ng/ML which he described as "very near the low end" and "a stimulant hard on the heart."
Fentanyl — 11. He said, "that's pretty high." This level of fentanyl can cause pulmonary edema. Mr. Floyd's lungs were 2-3x their normal weight at autopsy. That is a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances.
Norfentanyl — 5.6 a metabolite of fentanyl.

Mr. Floyd's urine was tested for 4 things and are redundant, given the blood analysis. AB said, "the only thing that matters is what's in his blood."

AB said that if Mr. Floyd had been found dead in his home (or anywhere else) and there were no other contributing factors he would conclude that it was an overdose death.

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 06:42, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

In the bag

Let's see what Trump needs to get 270 votes to win the election:

State category no. of votes running total Sen. incumb. nominee
Montana a-in the bag 3 votes Daines, Steve
Wyoming a-in the bag 3 votes Enzi, Michael B.
North Dakota a-in the bag 3 votes
South Dakota a-in the bag 3 votes Rounds, Mike
Idaho a-in the bag 4 votes Risch, James E.
Nebraska a-in the bag 5 votes Sasse, Ben
West Virginia a-in the bag 5 votes Capito, Shelley M.
Arkansas a-in the bag 6 votes Cotton, Tom
Utah a-in the bag 6 votes
Kansas a-in the bag 6 votes Roberts, Pat
Mississippi a-in the bag 6 votes Hyde-Smith, Cindy
Oklahoma a-in the bag 7 votes Inhofe, James M.
Louisiana a-in the bag 8 votes Cassidy, Bill
Kentucky a-in the bag 8 votes McConnell, Mitch
Alabama a-in the bag 9 votes Democrat
South Carolina a-in the bag 9 votes Graham, Lindsey
Indiana a-in the bag 11 votes
Tennessee a-in the bag 11 votes 113 votes Alexander, Lamar
Maine 2nd dist. b-loyal state 1 vote Collins, Susan
Alaska b-loyal state 3 votes Sullivan, Dan
Iowa b-loyal state 6 votes Ernst, Joni
Missouri b-loyal state 10 votes
Texas b-loyal state 38 votes 171 votes Cornyn, John
Georgia c-Trump ahead 16 votes Perdue, David
Ohio c-Trump ahead 18 votes 205 votes
Wisconsin d--leans Trump 10 votes
Arizona d--leans Trump 11 votes
North Carolina d-leans Trump 15 votes Tillis, Thom
Florida d-leans Trump 29 votes 270 votes
Minnesota e-toss-up 10 votes
Michigan e-toss-up 16 votes
Pennsylvania e+toss-up 20 votes
New Hampshire e-toss-up 4 votes Messner, Corky

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 09:47, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

Plus Maine’s second district, which is one electoral vote. TrumpConservative (talk) 10:39, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
Thank you. I have adjusted the totals accordingly.
Following the Trafalgar poll with Trump ahead in Wisconsin, that state seems lean Trump. Florida seems to be a toss up for now. Thanks for the list though! New Hampshire could be included on the list as well. TrumpConservative (talk) 10:41, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
I made adjustments from your suggestions. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 12:15, 26 August 2020 (EDT)
Date of change change
August 28 Moved Wisconsin from "toss-up" to "leans Trump"
August 30 Moved Pennsylvania from "toss-up" tp "leans Trump"
August 31 Moved Pennsylvania from "leans Trump" to "toss-up"
September 18 Upgraded Pennsylvania to e+, upgraded Florida to d, added New Hampshire to "toss-up"

Tweetable quotable

This COVID mess is a great reminder that there’s nothing more permanent than "temporary" government intervention—Rogan O’Handley @DC_Draino, Aug 22, 2020
Media doing massive investigations and constant reports on QAnon, a small internet chat group no one's heard of, but hasn't spent one second examining B.L.M. or the 3 self proclaimed marxists who run it or what they've done with the $1.6 billion they have collected.—MARK SIMONE @MarkSimoneNY, Aug 23, 2020
Treat ordinary language like the law and it becomes the law.—@2CB, Aug. 27, 2020
Breaking News 2022: "New York City minister indicted on charges of being diagnosed with homophobia: faces 2 to 10 years in prison if convicted."
VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:12, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Great white defendant(s) candidates

Nobody drives to a city with guns because they love someone else’s business that much. That's some bulls---. No one thinks, "it's my solemn duty to pick up a rifle and protect T.J. Maxx." They do it because they’re hoping to shoot someone.—@Trevornoah
Here comes the tainting of the jury pool angle from the supremely empathetic party that can't even understand the motivations of its enemies.
"Nobody does things that are by definition lawful which I wouldn't do unless they have malice aforethought."—@2CB

"How ridiculous. Everybody likes the riots. It just happened to be what we all chose at exactly the same time. That's almost like a mandate. How does it just happen that this clown is not on board?!"

Flashback: Trevor Noah

A new comedian from South Africa, Trevor Noah, was hired to take Jon Stewart's place [as host of The Daily Show, known for its presentation of selective caricature against its political opponents to score partisan points]. He was found to have told some crude sexual jokes ridiculing women with reference to their being overweight or of a particular ethnicity. Noah responded to criticism by moralizing, beginning one statement with "To reduce [someone's] views to a handful of jokes that didn't land....," applying this description of this unfair practice to his own case. One man on Twitter completed his sentence, aptly remarking "...is your new job description, pal."—Conservapedia, "The Daily Show", §Trevor Noah

Other candidate: The four George Floyd cops, to be filed for prosecution by Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, if he doubles down to capital murder, whom Florida U.S. Rep. candidate Laura Loomer had exposed to have assaulted his wife as reported in his divorce court records.

Press 1 for circus 1
Press 2 for circus 2

VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 11:37, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Hey, private security jobs are the only jobs available in an age of 10% unemployment and defunding the police during riots. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:42, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Wow, that's tough, Rob. But aren't you a little old for that line of work? VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 12:01, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

I mean for 17 year old kids. Now take Chicago, for instance; because of their racist gun control laws, they deny the opportunity for 17 year old minority kids to defend their communities and businesses. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:17, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

Are you crazy? That could fall into white hands. White people don't commit that many crimes, but when they do, boy are they ever guilty! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 12:39, 27 August 2020 (EDT)

It's the same Chicagoons who looted the downtown loop that burnt down Kenosha. Trust me. I'm from Southeastern Wisconsin. I grew up with Chicago hellraisers coming to Wisconsin every summer. Kenosha's 185 man police department can only put out maximum 90 cops in a 12 hour shift (leaving the rest of the city uncovered). They they not trained for riot control. One report says they asked for 2,000 guardsmen. By my estimates, you need one riot control officer for every 10 estimated rioters. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:22, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
  • Are the peaceful protesters looting T.J. Maxx again? Even Trevor Noah can't maintain the lies of the liberal media. It might be retail outlets today, but the rioters are working their way up to private homes. Andy Ngo has been videotaping Antifa gangs going through suburban neighborhoods attacking whoever they happen to encounter. After election day, we can expect renewed rioting. If there is one thing we have learned in the last few months, it's that Democrats love to riot. What can prevent the breakdown of civilization? We need a Republican sweep at all levels in the next election. It's either that or law enforcement by militia groups along the lines of Columbia or Lebanon. PeterKa (talk) 22:26, 27 August 2020 (EDT)
Someone said Democrats love to riot "during election years". I suspect Democrat leaders do not want national citizen organizations to form and then join together with police benevolence organizations to aid local police departments. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:50, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Where have you gone fat dog meme of 2016? Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you...
Historically, I don't there was any connection between riots and presidential elections. The Ferguson riots were in 2014, the year of a midterm election. There was the Watts riot in 1965 and the Detroit riot in 1967. IMO, this year's riots are different. They are a warm-up for riots after a contested election. Like last time, the votes of noncitizens in California will allow Biden to claim a "victory in the popular vote". The incoming Congress will decide the validity of the Electoral College vote on January 6. So if we lose both the House and Senate, we've lost the presidency too. PeterKa (talk) 07:08, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
The question is moot! The MPR feed is supplied by conservative experts who have said the Democrats are scaling back already and obviously know what's going on. Though next year there may be protests at the dozens of federal trials held. I think you can expect to see Antifans running onto basketball courts during half-time with large banners reading "FREE THE KENOSHA 9!" VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 07:09, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
The three shooting victims in Kenosha, all with criminal backgrounds, reveal they are anti-police, anti-law enforcement, and anti-criminal justice system more than anti-racist. Yes, Blacks may be a disproportionate number of people incarcerated, but the White frontline agitators and rioters are people with criminal records, axes-to-grind, and personal vendettas against society and the criminal justice system which locked them up and now discriminates against them because of their criminal records, and are not motivated by altruism and racial equality.
For example, the red-shirted convicted pedophile (a child under 12) who took a round in the head and spent many years in prison is almost certainly a member of the Aryan Nations prison gang. Prison culture is extraordinarily tribal and segregated. While there is respect between the tribes, there is little interaction or love between them. The only interaction is between tribal elders to negotiate peace and mutually assure younger tribe members will be disciplined and instructed to avoid and not interact with members outside their tribe. The red-shirted pedophile hated the white boy who shot him cause he represents the tax-paying law-and-order society that locked him up. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 08:57, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
I never said they were good candidates. As we get closer to the election with no candidates, they have to take what they can get! Indeed, as the truth trickles down, their candidacies may quickly fade! But you should have seen all the racial identity-shaping that was going on by leftists on Twitter! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:48, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

City of Kenosha, Wisconsin, Police Department press release, 1 hour, 57 minutes after RobS's claim

"During the early evening hours of August 26, 2020 Kenosha Police Department received a citizen tip alerting us to several suspicious vehicles with out of state plates meeting in a remote lot near State Highway 50 and Green Bay Road.
"Acting on this information Kenosha Police Officers located the suspicious vehicles and took up surveillance. Kenosha Police were assisted by the United States Marshals. The vehicles were a black school bus, bread truck and tan minivan. Kenosha police confirmed the out of state license plates.
"Police followed the vehicles to a gas station near Washington Road and 30th Avenue. Police observed the occupants of the black bus and bread truck exit and attempt to fill multiple fuel cans.
"Suspecting that the occupants of these vehicles were preparing for criminal activity related to the civil unrest, officers attempted to make contact and investigate. The officers exited the vehicles, identified themselves, were wearing appropriate identification, and then detained the occupants of the bus and bread truck.
"The minivan attempted to drive away; however, Kenosha police stopped this vehicle and ultimately forced entry to the minivan and arrested the occupants.
"The vehicles contained various items that included helmets, gas masks, protective vests, illegal fireworks, and suspected controlled substances. The 9 individuals were arrested for disorderly conduct and are pending charging decisions by the Kenosha County District Attorney."

Rob didn't mention that crossing state lines to participate in a riot (see his commentary at Talk:Main Page#The fastest way to end the riots) is a federal felony, and whoever conspired to do so is subject to even more jail time than that.

VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 02:19, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

BLM has $200 million. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 03:36, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Then what is Mark Simone talking about? Does this have to do with BLM giving money to or receiving money from ActBlue? Although Mark Simone is the type of person who would make up a detail if it would help him finish saying something funny. VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 04:41, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
These rioters are in no way organic or spontaneous. They are well funded, trained, equipped, and supplied. They can make bail and get lawyers. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 08:34, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
...and unpopular. They just pushed Wisconsin into the "leans Trump" category.
But these are federal charges. In the link you told us they were too dumb to realize they could be traced, which is what the U.S. Marshalls apparently actually did!
Side note: Notice how Trump helped the Kenosha Police Department. This was because they asked him for help. The Kenosha police was assisted by the U.S. Marshalls.
You can't get probation for federal crimes, so if the mysterious presence of defense lawyers specializing in federal law doesn't finally break the façade of the "grass-roots" rioters myth, one of the protestors cracking and naming their handlers will!
That's why I am predicting a leftist groundswell of protesting the court cases. This is my one shot at "Conservapedia proven right", and I'm crossing my fingers that my confident swagger will pay off! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 09:35, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Not so fast. That was the first thing that popped out in the Kenosha P.D. statement, "pending charging decisions by the Kenosha County District Attorney". No mention of "pending charging decisions by the U.S. Attorney" despite highlighting the presence of U.S. Marshalls and out of state plates. That's somewhat odd and tells us there's more to the story behind the scenes. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:43, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
And another note, the U.S. Marshall rather than the FBI is a clue that federal law enforcement may be stretched a little thin right now. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:49, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
And this, "arrested for disorderly conduct". Yah, sure. Their National Lawyers Guild (who represent Portland rioters) attorneys will say they only intended to do some off-season deer hunting with Molotov cocktails to avoid federal charges. And since they never performed the act, disorderly conduct may be hard to make stick. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:03, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
I was praising you for your foresight in discerning the Wisconsin rioters were from out of state. I thought you then started to talk about the rioters in general like some of those who crossed state lines to riot in Oregon, Washington, Minnesota and Illinois. I was talking about that. But I suppose you are the most desirous of narrowing in on the culprits who appeared in your former home state.
I think the local police will charge them under Kenoshan Law while the Feds build their case...and then lower the boom.
Rob, if you watched more TV, you would know a little more about police procedure. That charge is to get them to jail. Then they work round the clock for 48 hours processing, tracing and piecing together all the evidence. Then the big-city lawyer shows up and demand they either release their clients or hold the arraignment. So they go to the arraignment and, surprise! A new, more serious charge based on a key piece of evidence the crooks overlooked hiding! VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 10:13, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Compare what's happening in Kenosha with what's happening in districts with Soros D.A.'s. If, for example, the feds can make a case for Interstate whateveritis to incite riot, and the Kenosha D.A. releases the suspects, the feds then may move with federal charges; however, the feds also may have an ongoing cointel investigation in Chicago of a wider network they don't want compromised. Hence the preferability of locking up a few Illinoisians in Wisconsin on state charges.
Also, the bus. They likely transported more than just 9 people from Illinois. The 9 arrested are likely the more violent agitators and ringleaders. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:24, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
You can get a good picture how this "organizing" works; they get a bunch of kids from a church (black or white) in Chicago and say, "Hey kids, how would you like to march for social justice and Black Lives Matter in Kenosha?" The kids pile on the bus and get unloaded at the Kenosha courthouse at 10:00 AM. Meanwhile, the organizers load up Molotov cocktails and wait for dark. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:30, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Back to the $200 million. When the feds' cointel can trace money from Soros, Tom Steyer, Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream, and Goodyear Tires to the purchase of materials to make Molotov cocktails, the corporate sponsors have enough clout to limit or kill the investigation. Depending on public outrage, you then may have to find some mid-level conspirator, like the 9 arrested or Kevin Clinesmith, as the fall guy. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:42, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Does anybody have a Telegram account? Check out this link and tell me what's in there. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:53, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Duh. I just realized it has a "Preview channel" link with all the minute by minute reports. This page had 364 members 2 days ago. It's over 600 now. The Remote Support Team evidently are monitoring police channels and transmitting moment by moment reports on police movements and locations. You can scroll back and find the events of the shootings 2 nights ago. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:00, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
They're all probably sobbing hysterically by now. "You realize if those kids don't all come home safe and sound, they're gonna give you the juice!" VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 13:51, 28 August 2020 (EDT)
Closure: That very Friday, the Kenosha nine were all released—without prejudice to the hundred other outside agitators who wrecked the town. Obviously Kenosha prosecutors thought the Kenosha nine (Riot Kitchen 206) were too miserable to even indict on further charges. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 18:56, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

New case in Kenosha

"A 17-year-old Hispanic juvenile drove across state lines to clean up graffiti from BLM/Occupy Mainstreet vandals, was assaulted by multiple criminals, and ended up killing two white people, one of whom was a convicted pedophile." @2CB VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 15:03, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

It may very well be that the inducement of this event is the closest thing to which we've come that was the one and only purpose of the rioting (as well as its politically-hysterical professed motivations that were really just designed to prevent the waves of assaults from losing their momentum). That is, the drivers of the riots sought to induce this event by means of their activities for a time, from its beginning to as long as they saw it would be necessary to take, before the riots they were driving would suffer a backlash of a size that would nullify their political value, and they would have to try again by other and/or later means.
Talk about your "social engineering"! VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 10:51, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
(A) Do you think think the cops will ever be charged? (B) Do you think the kid's case will ever make it to inside a court room?
Now, what of redeeming value can we take from this case? (A) We witness a cop shoot somebody in the back 7 times and no charges filed; (B) we witness a minor assaulted by a criminal gang, standing over him and threatening him with a gun, flat on his back he fires in self defense, and the kid gets charged in 24 hours.
In other news, the cuffs have been taken off Jacob Blake. Looks like he won't be charged with resisting and criminal trespass. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 11:27, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
I couldn't believe he had survived. Are you aware Blake was armed and reaching for what could have been another weapon? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:25, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Looks like he's become a public charge now. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:28, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Look at the bright side - now that he'll be getting a Social Security disability check for the rest of his life, he can get a sex change operation. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 12:30, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
The kid was charged with six crimes, the first-degree murder charge alone carrying a life sentence. There's no going back. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:39, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Usage note to self: The county where Kenosha, Wisconsin resides is also called "Kenosha". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 14:49, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Yep. My grandpa used to own a gas station just a few miles down the same highway the shooting took place; my brother lives 3 blocks from the George Floyd shooting (I lived for a short while behind the Cub Food store that got burnt down in Minneapolis). Why me? I'm just glad God took me out of those sh*tholes. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:51, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, but what a story! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 19:34, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
According to the Reagan Battalion, on Twitter, Jacob Blake is anti-Ashkenazi Jews but pro-Semitic and Hamitic Jews! He also thinks Hitler and King Leopold are Jews. Though I'd be surprised if Biden blamed anyone but "white supremacists" when he shows up in Kenosha. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 19:51, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
If he wants to blame white supremacists in Kenosha, he can write off Wisconsin. The guy's so demented, I doubt his cognitive powers have failed that much, that there is no trade-off between sacrificing Wisconsin to speak to a national audience. His caregivers will be standing close by with a muzzle to look like face mask if he goes off script. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:22, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

L.A. shooting

Last nite the cops shot a black man on a bicycle and BLM sent out riot notices vis Twitter. Black helicopters appeared and people moreless stayed home. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:22, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Can we receive a dispensation from the Ten Commandments?

"Go ahead, be in denial. For the third time in this section CCC 2068 'the Ten Commandments are obligatory'. The law was only our schoolmaster."—Rob Smith, August 28, 2020

This question is harder than it looks.

If we have the New Law to eternal happiness, it presupposes a natural law to temporal happiness. That is summed up in the Ten Commandments.

Although that law never justified, it remains necessary for our temporal lives and takes the form of punishment.

Of course, any punishment is most painful at the time, and far from pleasant; but later, in those on whom it has been used, it bears fruit in peace and goodness. So hold up your limp arms and steady your trembling knees and smooth out the path you tread; then the injured limb will not be wrenched, it will grow strong again.—Hebrews 12:11-13

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 14:09, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

Well, here's where an understanding of grace and a changed life takes place. We become spiritually born and have faith in Christ cause we sincerely want to, not because we're under the threat of damnation for violations of the legal code.
This is what's meant by a "sincere heart". God's not gonna getcha for technical infractions. He knows we are flesh with weaknesses, and he can forgive. Out of our sincere heart, we must ask for forgiveness when we fall, and equally most important, must be willing to forgive others, as well.
What does it mean to "serve God?" That's fairly simple to answer. It simply means to love one another, forgive one another, not kill, rape, torture, abuse, envy, con, take advantage of, disrespect, etc etc etc your fellow creatures. We should be able to do this out of a willing heart, not because we are commanded to do so. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:02, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
God makes it pretty clear, my ways are not your ways, neither are my thoughts your thoughts; when the spiritual man (i.e. spiritually born or 'born again') begins seeing the world through God's eyes, he's no longer under law. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:23, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
It's self-will and pride that hinders people from walking the straight and narrow. Individuals and whole churches do it, beginning with the Roman Catholic Church and others. They simply refuse to surrender their pride to God. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:30, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
You're forgetting, however, that it was Jesus Christ himself who created the Catholic Church and even made Peter the first pope, which was even mentioned in Matthew 16:18. Besides, there's also the fact that God can outright destroy free will due to his omniscient and omnipotent nature, and he most certainly would have done that if he wanted to ensure people walked the straight and narrow. I know if I were in God's position, I'd be perfectly happy to rip free will away from people the very second Jesus died on the Cross, make them my puppets, for all eternity. Heck, technically he already did that with Jonah and the Whale. Jonah used free will to refuse to save a town and avoid it, yet God then sent a storm then a giant fish to eat him and deliver him and essentially force him to deliver salvation DESPITE his free will and pride. And quite frankly, when I see the world through God's eyes, I think of it like how the Patriots acted here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKl6WjfDqYA basically breaking lectures and truly reveling in his power and superiority over everyone. Do I like it? Not really, but that's what I see God's eyes as. And I see him as more the type to outright FORCE people to serve him, not even care about whether they are willing to serve him. Pokeria1 (talk) 16:39, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
The vessel was marred in the potter's hand. God is willing to take the blame for our faults. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:47, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Were you thinking of this Psalm (19)?
High above, he pitched a tent for the sun,
who comes out of his pavilion like a bridegroom,
exulting like a hero to run his race.
He has his rising on the edge of heaven,
the end of his course is its furthest edge,
and nothing can escape his heat.
But it goes on to say:
The Law of the Lord is perfect,
new life for the soul;
the decree of the Lord is trustworthy,
wisdom for the simple.
VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 17:35, 29 August 2020 (EDT)
Biblehub has a short entry, How the Law was not Made for a Righteous Man, which I find useful. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:30, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

Remember to hide your sources if you're trying to establish human resource policies in your organization based on repackaged radical leftist dogma

There is a civil war erupting at @SandiaLabs.

Following my investigation, a dissident electrical engineer named Casey Peterson emailed all 16,000 employees denouncing critical race theory in the lab and hoping to spark a rebellion against Sandia executives.

Here's the story. On Tuesday, Peterson made a YouTube video "pushing back back on the narrative of modern systemic racism and white privilege." The video quickly hit 10,000 views within the labs and dozens of Sandia employees contacted Peterson to express support.

Pushing Back on the Narrative of Modern Systemic Racism & White...
Definition of Critical Race Theory: https://www.britannica.com/topic/critical-race-theory “100 Things White People Can Do for Racial Justice” https://medium....

Within hours, Sandia executives dispatched a counterintelligence team to lock Peterson out of the network and scrub his communications from internal servers—which, via the Streisand Effect, made the video even more viral and sparked widespread unrest against Sandia executives.

By the afternoon, executives were panicking about the brewing rebellion, placed Peterson on paid administrative leave, and established a "security review board" to "evaluate whether [his] actions have comprised or posed a threat to Sandia computing and security systems."

Peterson—who took a stand at grave risk to his career—says he is speaking on behalf of all of Sandia employees who are "scared to speak out" because of the lab's repressive culture. "If I get fired because of this," Peterson says, "the fight does not end, it only intensifies." This is the first explicit rebellion against critical race theory in the federal government—and the coalition is growing. "We need to completely rip [critical race theory] out of Sandia root and stem," Peterson says. "It is cancer and we need to get it out of the labs right now."

Christopher F. Rufo @realchrisrufo

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 03:36, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

I saw that article but didn't have time to read it. Anything useful to add to critical race theory, even if just to make the article look up to date and current? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:37, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
Why not add something? We can cite Peterson as a source! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:23, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Go ahead. Do it. Be Bold. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:27, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

LiberalTears' admission

LiberalTears seems to be attached to some security issue here. I just want to say that although I'm not taking any action with regard to his continued editing, that doesn't mean I consent to accepting to his explanation for his behavior. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 03:47, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

This has nothing to do with content for the Main Page. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Sunday, 13:55, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
Now now children, play nice. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:38, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

It's come to this

NYT must have gotten the call about how "undecided moderate likely voters" are perceiving this whole "masked gangs of people burning stuff down repeatedly" and had to engage in the unfamiliar activity of "accurately reporting what transpired at an event."—overheard on Twitter

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 04:29, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

Kenosha nine

...came all the way from Seattle, not Chicago! (Surprise!) VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 08:32, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

They're an organization called "Riot Kitchen 206". Despite the presence of the para-military gear, their organization supported them, leading many people to believe they are racketeers. VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 13:37, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

The now-defunct @riotribs also gave donations to an anonymous group to purchase lacrosse sticks. US Marshals said that people use lacrosse sticks to launch projectiles at the building & officers.
Riot Ribs gave $25,000 to the Seattle-based "Riot Kitchen 206." Money raised online ostensibly for "free food" in Portland was then pass[ed] across state lines to fund other projects. One of the ways organizers have been keeping riots ongoing is the promise of food & supplies.
Andy Ngô @MrAndyNgo, August 1, 2020

VargasMilan (talk) Sunday, 13:48, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

So, we can presume there may be federal charges in the offing? or are they "following the money trail" to Ben & Jerry's?
It's interesting. One would think AI and facial recognition could review hundreds of hours of video from Portland, Denver, L.A., Minneapolis, Chicago, and elsewhere fairly quickly. Sure, it may take some time for humans to review matches, but the delays are probably caused by FinCEN and/or getting somebody to cooperate. Any word if they are still in custody? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 16:52, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
I can't tell you that. But a photographer who tourned Kenosha said: "Every single local I spoke to blamed "out of towners" for the worst of the destruction. They didn't offer a huge amount of evidence for this, but it's a blanket consensus."
I'm still interested in the bus. Buses eat a lot of gas and aren't that fast. Was the bus converted to living quarters? It's hard to believe 2 or 3 guys drove a bus across the Western U.S. just to transport empty bottles for Molotov cocktails.
The rioting I think is closely related to methamphetamine use, and the looting is to pay for meth. This is the future Democrats promise. Once all the stores are burnt down and jobs destroyed, there will be no resources left to pay for meth. That, coupled with rising demand, does not bode well for meth prices. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:43, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
"It wasn't a bus, it was a food truck."
"Could be a case of mistaken identity. They were probably looking for the Peaceful Protest Kitchen."
You can follow this, and I'd imagine other equally stupid interactions at @riotkitchen206. At least the terrorists at @riotribs had the dignity to shutter their Twitter account. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:54, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Twitter is already a hot-bed of sarcastic hostility, but when it involves persons who are potential suspects in violent conspiracies posting, it can turn into a scary mudpit or tarpit and make the feds' jobs harder for them. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 19:51, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Kenosha P.D. episode 6: going through the motions

Apparently an observer near the Rittenhouse events said Kenosha P.D. set up Rittenhouse and his friends and not only dispersed the after-curfew rioters toward them, but said they were going to so that Kyle's group could "take care of them". I realized this is an understated section title, but frankly I'm pretty shocked and fearful for the safety of the informers. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 11:56, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Thankfully, this has been called into doubt, and in fact the claimant may be in big trouble. He associated the well-known liberal who repeated his claim with the "alt-right", and the source he named from which he said he obtained the story did not show the story at the link he gave. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 13:37, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
There evidently was some interaction between Rittenhouse and the cops or guard before hand. Also, the alleged "confrontation" minutes earlier at the gas station has been misrepresented; BLM and some libertarian elements share a common distrust of government which was being negotiated. The criminal elements on the BLM side, i.e. the dead pedophile, got out of hand. That's to be expected in any anarchical situation.
Barnes here in a Viva Frei discussion graduated from UW law school, practiced law in Wisconsin, sued many cops, lived in the Racine/Kenosha/Walworth County area, knows Wisconsin law and gun laws, says Rittenhouse has no chance of being convicted by a jury, if it ever even gets that far.
So it's political; the Democrat mayor and prosecutor's jobs are on the line. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:15, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Back to you...

Kenosha P.D. in fact arrested 102 outside agitators, not just the 9 out-of-state ones! VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 18:49, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Here's an example of the Marxist community organizers from DSA's failure in understanding demographics and demography. They funneled in excess revolutionaries from other riot centers, Chicago, Michigan, Kansas City, Seattle and Portland, without understanding how these out-of-towners stick out like a sore thumb in a Midwestern town of 100,000. Even in Mpls, a city of over 2 million, the local protesters quickly recognized out-of-town agitators. It doesn't take many of them to set off a riot.
Again, it's a political problem for elected officials and alleged local "peaceful protesters". They must quickly disassociate themselves from the ideological cause - and here I'm more referring to the young people involved in alleged "protests" - or suffer being ostracized longterm. But the train may have left the station on that problem already. Just as people ridicule and mock old time hippies and flowerchildren 5 decades later, that's what's in store for anyone associated with BLM. It was a cute, racist move, by the white liberal slave masters, leaving Blacks to catch hell and the blame when the history is written. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:33, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Biden is slipping

The Dems have determined that they are on track to losing the election. How can we tell? Because they have started blaming Trump for "inciting" protester violence. When they thought they were winning, they weren't just inciting violence. The riots were their ticket to the White House, and they were raising money for BLM.

Harris is still calling for riots. This is what she recently told Colbert: “They’re not going to stop. This is a movement. I’m telling you they’re not going to stop, and everyone beware because they are not going to stop. They’re not going to stop before election day in November, and they’re not going to stop after election day, and everyone should take note of that on both levels that they’re not going to let up, and they should not, and we should not."[38] You can't appease the rioters by voting for Biden. Harris will give us more riots if elected -- that's a campaign promise.

For four days, Dems told us what they thought at the DNC. But no one dared to say anything that might hurt the feelings of rioters, Antifa, or BLM. That strategy seems to have backfired. Biden didn't even get the traditional "post-convention bounce." The RNC doesn't seem to have changed anyone's mind. The DNC was enough to turn it around. Trump is now almost two percentage points ahead of where he was in 2016 at this time.[39] Before the riots, Trump was doing pretty well in the polls. To believe that Biden has a chance, you have to think that a significant number of people will vote for him because of the riots. PeterKa (talk) 23:22, 30 August 2020 (EDT)

Another thing to note is that the election predictions (like Cook Political Report) are currently making the same mistakes as they did in 2016 and thinking that they'll be correct this time (which is insanity). Also, the polling organizations thought in 2016 that independents would lean Democrat in swing states like Michigan, and the exit polling showed that they leaned Republican. Now the polls either admit that independents lean Republican and over-weigh Democrats in the sample or simply find one skewed to the left. The latter case is quite common, probably because most conservatives aren't going to spend a long time answering questions for fake polling companies like Public Policy Polling (PPP). —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Monday, 23:38, 30 August 2020 (EDT)
"This will be exposed as the most mistakenly overconfident launch of a major party campaign for the White House since the renomination of Governor Thomas Dewey of New York against President Harry Truman in 1948. The combination of the two sequential conventions and the performance of the Democratic press in covering them will be a shattering blow to the Democratic strategists who retrieved Joe Biden and Kamala Harris from the prenomination ash heap and put them forward as a respectable camouflage for the party’s outright Marxist program.
"Whatever possessed them to imagine that they could avoid any comment on the most widespread and most destructive urban rioting in America in over 50 years, could lay the public health crisis entirely upon the president, could maintain their advocacy of an immigration policy that would ultimately result in every poverty-stricken person in the world moving to the United States, while ignoring this administration’s reduction of illegal immigration by 90 percent; all of this and many other issues will be as much a matter of interest to psychiatrists as to historians....
"Mr. Biden made a catastrophic error in promising to shut down the country if the coronavirus could not be exterminated, and he will not be allowed to forget it. And the Republicans hung the urban rioting and corrupt Democratic municipal misgovernment around Mr. Biden’s neck like a putrid albatross....
"It was indicative of the dilapidation of Democratic confidence that their nominees went before television cameras and minimal numbers of viewers on Thursday afternoon, trying to preempt what they had finally realized would be a heavy blow from the president on Thursday evening. Mr. Biden attacked urban violence directly and let it be known that he would campaign in some of the so-called battleground states.
"The Democratic National Committee, though, issued an unimaginably fatuous complaint as the Republicans closed with one of the greatest fireworks displays in American history over the Washington Monument that the absence of precautions against COVID-19 for the president’s speech was illustrative of his “complete corruption.”
"Their campaign of terror about the pandemic has failed with Biden’s quasi-promise to shut down the country again. They will pay for their ambiguity about urban violence and their encouragement of defunding of police forces. Their cleverest and most egregious strategist, David Axelrod, whined that the Republicans were verging on racism by upholding the police (though most newsworthy police chiefs are black).
"The Democratic convention was full of gloom and national self-criticism and nominated relatively unfrightening figureheads and the Republican convention exposed this as scaffolding for a giant pustule of policy extremism, and countered with a comprehensive and optimistic program. “Orange Man Bad” won’t do it; this is a choice between a quavering geriatric mediocrity riding a mad tiger and an unabashed impresario who, like him or not, is a great star.
..."this president will be reelected, and he will finally enjoy a honeymoon and be the only chief executive in U.S. history whose second term was more successful than his first." [40] RobSTrump 2Q2Q 00:42, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Your mention of Dewey and Truman reminds me of this meme related to the 2016 U.S. presidential election... —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Monday, 01:00, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
All the passing back and forth—Pelosi: I don't think he should debate; Biden: I've got to debate to tell the American people the truth that's being covered up!—is a bunch of B.S. Biden has been preparing for this debate for the last 30 years and has been keeping up with events daily. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 02:36, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
I hope that's really Trump on his Twitter account, and that he's been using the extra time he gets from his policy of not enabling or saving the banana states from themselves to shadow-box in the same way, using the ideas his advisers give him to fill the gaps in his knowledge. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 03:02, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Peak Biden was on August 5. He was ahead in the betting odds by 60.9 to 36.9. Every day since has been a bad day for Biden. A week ago, he was 12 points ahead in the betting odds. Now the gap is down to two points. See here. PeterKa (talk) 04:15, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Maybe you're right. Maybe he still has good technical debating skills but through corruption has become completely incapable of saying anything to denounce conservatism in an eloquent way. Although privately, Khrushschev trounced Kennedy. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:02, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
August 28, 2020 was a good day for Biden. He rose in the polls 1.3%. So it can happen. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 08:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

The way the polls are trending, Biden should be down in a week or so. Biden has been going down and Trump steadily improving for a while now. NishantXavierFor Christ the King 10:02, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

What we are seeing now is pubic opinion reverting to the pre-riot mean. But I am hoping that at least some Democrats are willing to break with their party over the riot issue. There certainly weren't any of those at the convention. Andrew Sullivan has been writing blog posts critical of the riots. I noticed that the NYT has started denouncing Sullivan as a racist and a conservative. Obama's favorite blogger is a racist and a conservative? I had look at what he'd been writing to figure out what was going on. PeterKa (talk) 21:29, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Putin strikes back

It doesn't matter which way the polls are "trending" if an event like Biden pinching Trump in the debates occurs. That's the whole point—the trend could reverse!

Even Trump's friend Putin...Putin, Putin what are you doing? Attacked U.S. troops in Syria. No Russian has ever done that. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:21, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Are you talking about the video of Russians and Americans playing bumpers cars? [41] That was funny! RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:34, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
When you see a Hummer side by side with a Russian vehicle, there isn't much to worry about. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:35, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Fox News: Trump outperforming his 2016 campaign

"And Trump is largely outperforming his 2016 benchmarks in some of the most important states to the Electoral College."



Trump's efforts to label what is happening in major cities as "riots" speaks at least somewhat to his desperation, politically speaking, at the moment—Chris Cillizza @CillizzaCNN (August 30, 2020) 6:34 pm

"I condemn violence of every kind by anyone, whether on the left or the right. And I challenge Donald Trump to do the same." Joe Biden forcefully condemned the violent protests that took one life in Portland on Saturday.—cnn.com (August 31, 2020) 6:11 am

VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:06, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

Didn't Biden want to take Trump behind the barn and beat the hell out of him? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:19, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Stop the violence. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 10:23, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
Note to Democrats: Silence is violence. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:32, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

U.S. Chamber of Snakes

The "U.S. Chamber of Commerce" which sounds like a government agency but isn't, are endorsing the far-left Democrats in 2020.

You'll remember they tried (and in some places succeeded) to take over the Conservative Political Action Conference. Hey, I guess they're not that conservative after all. VargasMilan (talk) Monday, 17:44, 31 August 2020 (EDT)

They're globalists. They, and the congressmen they own, formed the backbone of resistance to Trump from the beginning. They don't want to lose the China market. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 21:44, 31 August 2020 (EDT)
The Senate majority may be endangered by this development. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 08:47, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Endangered in what sense? being Republican controlled or globalist controlled? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 10:16, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce regularly drops $3,000,000 in ads a piece obliquely supporting the Senate candidates of their choice (as a superPAC). VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 11:22, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Yes. While the NRA may be the largest lobbying group in terms of members, The CoC is the largest in dollars. THis has formed the backbone of of the GOP lobbying for over half a century. But the Clinton's and the DLC began making inroads into CoC money in the 1990s, and they bought-off Obama through health insurers and Big Pharma. CoC money essentially makes up the Uniparty. CoC = Wall Street. Democrats = Wall Street globalist slave masters + dependent identity politics groups. GOP = Main Street + populists.
article from yesterday, a short read, explains the current transitioning pretty good, using Minnesota's Iron Range as the example. It's not just a good introduction into Minnesota politics, it gives a good picture of he current Democrat party. In Minnesota, you have unemployed rural redneck Democrats coupled with anti0American radical socialists like Ilhan Omar and Keith Ellison. That marriage won't last another election cycle. And this Democrat coalition between rural and urban has existed til now for over 100 years. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 13:48, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Here's another: The Hidden Alliance Has Merged – U.S. Chamber of Commerce Merge Policy With Big Labor Unions To Support $15/Hr Minimum Wage: "Now that Wall Street’s U.S. Chamber of Commerce has dropped their mask, we see decepticon Tom Donohue align with corrupt labor union leader Richard Trumka. The dark-forces now align to retain personal power, increase their own wealth, diminish Main Street, and win the 2020 election at all costs...." RobSFree Kyle! 17:47, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Biden and fracking

Biden is all for fracking. If you say he is against it, you are "repeating Donald Trump lies about me." At least what he told voters in Pittsburgh today. See "Biden: 'I am not banning fracking'" What are we make of this reel of Biden vowing to end fracking, many, many times? This lie is almost as brazen as when Elizabeth Warren claimed to be an American Indian. Maybe he should talk to Harris. This story is from only two weeks ago: "The Selection Of Kamala Harris Cements Joe Biden’s Fracking Ban Credentials." PeterKa (talk) 02:51, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

"I want you to look in my eyes. I guarantee you we're going to end fossil fuels."[42] What does Biden mean here? Are we going Amish? Time to start breeding horses and stocking up on buggy whips? Sorting out all these conflicting and nonsensical promises will never be Biden's problem. PeterKa (talk) 03:55, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
He means he wants to make America dependent on Vladimir Putin and MBS for energy. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 04:04, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
He means he will try to force motor vehicle manufactures to stop using the internal combustion engine like they're doing in France. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 08:45, 1 September 2020 (EDT)
Yeah, I suspect what Biden is really talking about is electric cars. In France, the electricity is from nuclear power. But in the U.S., the power would presumably come from coal or natural gas. PeterKa (talk) 23:15, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

The left is a culture, not a political movement

The left is a culture, not a political movement. Thus it seeks intellectual figureheads to deliver homilies & adopts in-group jargon with shifting meanings that alienate outsiders. The figureheads maintain a sense of superiority and the jargon maintains solidarity. @2CB

VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 08:53, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Two kinds of truth

One of the hallmarks of the left is moral relativity or non-cognitive ethics.

Here is a good solution for refuting these. There are actually two kinds of truth, descriptive and prescriptive. A descriptive truth makes a judgment that is faithful to reality. While a prescriptive truth makes a judgment which is faithful to right desire [that is, whether or not the desire really exists or not], but both make use of logic. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 13:16, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

But then again

Moral (or cultural) relativity may have always been just a tactic for liberal elites. Ethical analysis serves as a "court of appeals" for the educated few, and liberals would feel they need to take control of that court for when the occasion arises and selectively ignore it in practical politics when channeling their followers emotional drives into political activity. Of course that implies their non-relative moral "principles" are really just strong emotional attachments that are only resolved by practical political victory. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 05:42, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Back up to bat: Ten Commandments

Thesis: The New Law is primarily to reconcile man and God, while the Ten Commandments were intended to secure friendship between man and man. Yet, by accepting God's grace through Christ, that grace will allow us to fulfill the very commandments man was unable to, which are necessary to maintain friendship between man and man. In his teachings, Christ also expressed "spiritualized" versions of the Ten Commandments that take the character of love of God sooner than the character of commandments, making them easier to bear. Therefore they remain duties but not drudgeries. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 11:55, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

The ten commandments teach how God thinks, and each one goes against our natural instincts. God will send no one to hell for violating the Ten Commandments; God will send anyone to hell who rejects the grace offered through Christ. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:32, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

2008 replay

If Biden upsets Trump in the debate, it will energize his base the way Sarah Palin infused youthful energy into McCain's campaign in 2008 because of her speech at the Republican National Convention. I would predict at least a ten-point boost. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 12:24, 1 September 2020 (EDT)

Joseph Mifsud 302 is out

-February 11, 2017

Mifsud said he had no advance knowledge Russia had DNC emails and did not make any offer to Papadopoulos

A very short interview for a purported "Russian agent"

Mueller's Report played-up Mifsud's "connections to Russia."

At the interview, the FBI didn't bother to ask many questions about those "connections."

No follow-up questions about emails.

Now we can see why there were zero references to the Mifsud 302 in Mueller's Report.

Mueller allegation: George Papadopoulos "lies" about if he was w/ Trump campaign during Mifsud meeting impeded their ability to question Mifsud.
The problem: Mifsud himself told the FBI that George was w/ Trump campaign when they met.

One last thing - the Special Counsel's dishonesty to the court.

Representation: @GeorgePapa19 prevented FBI from getting to the bottom of the Mifsud story.
Reality: the FBI asked few questions of Mifsud, was getting emails from Mifsud, and chose to not follow-up with Mifsud.


Mueller team intentionally misled court, in court filings claimed George P hindered FBI investigation. Fact: George offered to help FBI find Mifsud, even said he'd be in DC Feb 2017, when they interviewed Mifsud. SCO lawyers who signed those docs should be in trouble.—Lee Smith

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 08:27, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Did the FBI ask Italian intelligence what they knew about Mifsud? If he was really a Russian agent teaching in Rome, the Italians would presumably keep track of him. It seems that the FBI didn't want know what Mifsud was really up to. The less they knew, the more freedom they had to make stuff up. PeterKa (talk) 09:09, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Mifsud was probably hired by Halper. Halper was working with John Brennan and Richard Dearlove.
This whole comedy of errors once again proves the utter amateurishness of Americans in the game of espionage. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 09:24, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
George Papadopoulos replies: "Don't focus on the trees and forget the forest. This won't be the last time we hear about Mifsud. It was information given about Mifsud from Italian officials that launched Durham's criminal probe. Italy is with us.
"Mifsud has not gone underground for 2 years because of a 'misunderstanding.'" VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 14:44, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
So it's more evidence the Mueller Report is bunk. I'm vindicated. I never created a Mueller Report page cause I knew the whole thing would have to be re-written (pity the poor chumps at Ratwiki - they've earned their title as "fake news now.) RobSTrump 2Q2Q 15:01, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

On May 13, 2019, John H. Durham, United States Attorney for the District of Connecticut, was appointed by Attorney General Robert Barr "to conduct a comprehensive investigation of counterintelligence decisions made by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the context of the 2016 presidential election."

If Mifsud talking to Papadopoulos was the genesis of Crossfire Hurricane, why did it take 6 and 7 months to interview the two of them? What is in the 4 CH files the FBI was working on from July - Jan.? A guess: they were focused on Page (Steele dossier) and Flynn.
George P: "This goes way before crossfire. We will learn that there was political monitoring going back to at least March 2016." 16:39, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Better yet, why was a KGB agent who tried to destroy American democracy a featured State Department speaker when the FBI interviewed him in February 2017? RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:32, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
As to The information from the Italian government, it was confirmation Mifsud was an Italian citizen who worked for NATO. Brennan would have known that, but Brennan told Congress P'dop was meeting with a KGB agent. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:58, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
The pollical monitoring (at least in the Trump and Flynn case) began about November 2015. About the same time Nellie Ohr was hired by FusionGPS, and Flynn, Mifsud, and Jill Stein dinned with Putin in December in Moscow. Flynn was always the main target, not Trump. What's unknown is when exactly Flynn began briefing Trump on Obama intelligence community affairs. And that information resides in the Trump camp. I have good evidence it was before New Years Day, 2016. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:05, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Read the entries on the Obamagate timeline 2015 from December (and late November 2015). It's short, but eyeopening for much what happened later. This is where "OCONUS" (outside continental United States) "lures" first appears. Also, Mifsud & P'dop hired in London at the same place at this time; but sources say they didn't meet until about March 2016. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 23:11, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

The eleven commandments

  1. Examine the evidence used and gathered in the FBI's investigation of four Americans as part the FBl's Russia investigation
  2. Examine the timing of Christopher Steele's initial FBI contacts and the initiation of the Russia investigation
  3. Examine how the FBI verified information in the Steele dossier before presenting it to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC)
  4. Examine whether the FBI conveyed Steele's bias against Donald Trump to the FISC
  5. Examine whether the FBI compensated Steele for his work as a human source
  6. Examine the timing and circumstances of Steele's termination as an FBI source
  7. Examine the FBI's awareness that the DNC indirectly financed the Steele dossier
  8. Examine the FBI's receipt and use of information provided by Perkins Coie attorney Michael Sussmann
  9. Examine the FBI's reliance on information from Christopher Steele—via Bruce Ohr—following Steele's termination as a human source
  10. Examine the roles played by Joseph Mifsud, Alexander Downer, Stefan Halper, and Azra Turk
  11. Examine whether other federal agencies were involved in or aware of the FBI's Russia investigation

Reps. Jim Jordan/Mark Meadows, MAGA

Michael Sussmann may be a communist. He ran for New York Attorney General as a member of the Green Party. VM

In May 2020, it was revealed he said Comey refused to investigate the DNC servers, the opposite of the story that the DNC refused to allow their servers to be examined! VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 18:58, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Bill Binney was taken off the air in the midst of livestream by Reddit yesterday. He's one the experts who determined the DNC breach was internal. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:36, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
PeterKa proven right (The less [the FBI] knew, the more freedom they had to make stuff up [about Russia])! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 08:16, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Deep State conspirators had two primary objects; defeating Trump became a parallel objective later. The first two were (1) CYA for illegal spying (FISA 702 abuse) going back to mid 2012 (slightly before the Benghazi massacre; Snowden revealed all in 2014) and (2) silence Flynn who knew of the illegal activities and was fired in mid 2014. Flynn knew where the bodies were buried and they were scared witless with Flynn as NS Advisor. The Mueller appointment and Mueller investigation were to carryout these same objectives - cover up of Obama admin illegal spying. RobSFree Kyle! 12:43, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Flynn was working within the system to reform and expose the corruption; Snowden went outside the system. But the basic facts apply to both. RobSFree Kyle! 12:46, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Crossfire Hurricane was predicated on Hillary winning; the insurance policy became the Mueller probe. RobSFree Kyle! 12:48, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
DEVELOPING: Kevin Clinesmith committed his crime of forging FISA email under Andrew Weissmann's direction. He altered evidence AFTER Mueller had appointed Weissmann as his chief prosecutor in early June 2017 [on June 19, 2017 VM]. At the time, Clinesmith was reassigned to Special Counsel, i.e. Weissmann's team.—Paul Sperry VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 17:46, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
So Weissmann and his FBI and other deep state bosses went where they weren't supposed to and kept looking and looking and looking.... I hope you took a good look, Weissmann, because it's going to cost you the election! VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 18:48, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
The Mueller probe was never intended to investigate Russia collusion - the FBI knew it didn't exist on January 4, 2017 - the day before the Oval Office meeting with Biden, Rice, Comey, Brennan, Clapper, and Yates in attendance. The Mueller probe was intended to cover up Obama admin abuses, in which Rod Rosenstein then became complicit. The Mueller probe shielded DOJ & the FBI from Devin Nunes and Congressional subpeaoneas, and helped flip the House to the Democrats in 2018. The Uniparty at work. The Clinesmith guilty plea, and the James Wolfe indictment show SSCI complicity (a separation of powers problem in prosecuting legislators for classified leaks) in Deep State coup 1.0.
Motive for the Deep State coup? (A) protection of NATO and the military industrial complex; (B) protection of the U.S. Chamber of Congress and China trade. RobSFree Kyle! 19:10, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Russia did not interfere in the 2016 elections; the Mueller team did interfere in the 2018 Midterms. RobSFree Kyle! 19:11, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Yes! "Cover up Obama admin abuse" by means of looking for misconduct of every stripe through the use of illegal spying! To them:
Loving the country's a big crime...
Trump's been guilty a long time!
VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 19:40, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
Read what Daniel Ellsberg said [43] during the Snowden incident, cause that is exactly what's happening now, and that's what Flynn was going to expose and reform:
"Do they really believe that real democracy is viable, when one branch of government, the Executive, knows or can know every detail of every private communication (or credit card transaction, or movement) of: every journalist; every source to every journalist; every member of Congress and their staffs; every judge, at every level up to the Supreme Court? Do they think that every one of these people "has nothing to hide," nothing that could be used to blackmail them or manipulate them, or neutralize their dissent to Executive policies, or influence voting behavior? Is investigative journalism, or aggressive Congressional investigation of the Executive, or court restraints on Executive practices, really possible with that amount of transparency to the Executive of their private and professional lives and associations? And without any of those checks, the kind of democracy you have is that of the German Democratic Republic in East Germany, with its Stasi (which had a minuscule fraction of the surveillance capability the NSA has now, but enough to turn a fraction of the population of East Germany into secret Stasi informants)."
RobSFree Kyle! 20:14, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
George Papadopoulos: "All @ODNIgov needs to do is declassify which foreign ally/organization was handling Joseph Mifsud when he was introduced to me by high level Italian officials as well as individuals we now know were connected to UK intelligence.
"This act will singlehandedly upend the old narrative."—(Sept. 4, 2020) VargasMilan (talk) Friday, 17:22, 4 September 2020 (EDT)
"Can’t wait for it to be revealed that the meeting with the Clinton errand boy, Alexander Downer, was recorded and a set up. Will make the Halper meetings look like small potatoes."—GP (Sept. 5, 2020)

First Weissmann, now Goldstein

According to a court document presented by the Al-bab blog, written by the Mueller Investigation and signed by one of its chief prosecutors, Andrew Goldstein, Mifsud claimed to have access to Hillary Clinton's emails.[1] But in the record of Mifsud's FBI interview (the Form 302 summary), on February 11, 2017, he said he had no advance knowledge Russia had DNC emails and did not make any offer to Papadopoulos. The e-mail documents were released on Wikileaks.

RobS full Obamagate story bearing fruit

DEVELOPING: Investigators have learned that Obama CIA Director John Brennan ran a secret task force out of Langley with its own separate budget to investigate Trump campaign and alleged ties to Russia. Task force set up before FBI officially launched its own probe on 07/31/16—Paul Sperry (@paulsperry) September 7, 2020.

George Papadopoulos: I always explained that the CIA and foreign intelligence spying on me abroad is where the action always was and will remain as the new investigations ramp up. (September 8, 2020).

RobS always insisted there was an early start to Obamagate, and now the details are being revealed. William Barr and Durham themselves already confirmed it started much earlier than July 2016.

I'd like to get the date when Durham received Italian intelligence, and his investigation turned into a criminal probe. VargasMilan (talk) Tuesday, 15:08, 8 September 2020 (EDT)

Everybody mad at Bill Binney now

"(15) Re Muller team deleting text msgs: This won't do. If gov wants those msgs, all they have to do is go to NSA Stellarwind data base and pull them out as all sms going over the cell network are captured & stored forever. @DevinNunes knows this. @FoxNews"—Sept. 14, 2020.

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 03:38, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

Please put this very important detail on MPR

Can someone with the "Administrator" tag please put the following below the line on MPR (excluding my signature)? Thanks!

BREAKING: Gun sales continue to SOAR as Americans who witness the violent 2020 Leftwing insurrection reject the notion of gun control. [44]

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Wednesday, 15:37, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

It's a Women's rights issue; I heard somewhere the majority of new purchases are female. We need to begin merging gun rights into the women's right's narrative. RobSTrump 2Q2Q 22:41, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Thank you very much RobSmith for posting it on MPR! Also, yes, you're right about gun rights being a women's rights issue; this PragerU video by Katie Pavlich sums it up well. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Thursday, 22:48, 2 September 2020 (EDT)
Can we find a link that says women are the primary purchasers of guns in 2020? RobSFree Kyle! 12:50, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
I'm not entirely sure about women being the primary purchasers; according to here, they make up 40% of new gun owners, and this source seems interesting as well. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Thursday, 14:36, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
That's the story. Women are taking the lead in signing up for gun shooting classes. We need to meld the three ideas into one sentence: (a) the gun boom; (b) women's rights; (c) women taking the lead in training classes. RobSFree Kyle! 14:48, 3 September 2020 (EDT)
There's several ways this can go; and we can use ideas developed here over the coming weeks. Something along the line of:
Women's rights and equality: while Democrats seek to abolish the 2nd Amendment, more women are signing up for shooting classes, or
women take the lead in signing up....', or
more women are buying guns and signing up...., etc. RobSFree Kyle! 14:54, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

Sex with a mask, eh?

The CDC has admitted that covid-19 has killed only 9,000 Americans.[45] Will the country finally calm down about the virus? Frankly, the hysteria has always had less to do with the disease itself than with the upcoming election. But you Canadians can't vote, so enough already. This is Reuters: "Wear a mask while having sex, Canada's top doctor suggests." Yes, Canadian women can now break out a cigarette and ask, who was that masked man? PeterKa (talk) 11:13, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

Headline ideas for MPR

Here are three ideas for very recent news to post on MPR:

Americans are not impressed with Salongate. [46]

More mostly peaceful protesters storm restaurants, break glass [47], and climb onto people's homes. [48]

Setting back the agenda of race-baiters: Trump orders the end of critical race theory in training for federal agencies. [49]

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 00:34, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

We got a Salongate article? Good. Looks like a bigger impact and more staying power than expected. RobSFree Kyle! 10:37, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Thank you for putting these headlines on MPR, RobSmith! Also, about Salongate, I redirected the page to Nancy Pelosi, since the detail is above TOC for the latter, but I could turn it into a separate content page, seeing as there's plenty of information surrounding the matter. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier be well! | Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot! Saturday, 12:52, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

What happens after the election?

This year's matchup polls are pretty much in line with those taken in 2016. I assume the riots will motivate Trump voters, regardless of how they feel about Trump personally. Biden has run numerous times for various positions and has always proven to be a singularly uninspiring candidate. Republicans can show up to do their civic duty, but Dems need a candidate who inspires them. So they have come up with a new strategy: massive mail ballot cheating combined threats of riots and a military coup if you dare to call them on said cheating.

Hillary, Harris, and other Dems have indicated that they won't accept defeat and will fight on after the election. They is also talk of a military coup, or "coup porn," as Byron York called it. Biden has repeatedly stated that the military will drag Trump out of the White House on January 21. This situation would arise only if there is a nightmare dispute concerning the outcome of the election, something Biden apparently has no problem subjecting the country to.

Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, has stated that the military will play "no role" in the election. But Milley has already shot down Trump's attempt to invoke the Insurrection Act. This act gives the president the authority use troops against the rioters, even if that means overruling the relevant governor. It's unlikely that the military will actually intervene. So why is Biden and others talking about it? By talking up the most extreme option, they are making anything short of a military coup sound moderate.

What could realistically happen? In California and several other states, the voting process is corrupted with non-citizens on the rolls and ballot harvesting. That these states will give their Electoral College votes to Biden is a given. They can pump up their popular vote totals and allow Biden to claim a "popular vote victory," as Hillary did in 2016. The MSM will proclaim Biden the real winner and Twitter will close Trump's account. The Constitution says that Electoral College votes must be counted by Congress. The only time this kind of dispute went to Congress before was in 1876. See "The Coming Coup?" by Michael Anton.

The House is expected to remain Democrat. RCP is predicting a 51-49 Dem majority in the U.S. Senate. Everything comes down to the Senate races in Georgia, Montana, Colorado, and Iowa. Minnesota is on course to electing a Democrat, despite the rioting.[50] PeterKa (talk) 06:57, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Unresolved election disputes and litigation in House elections could lead to not enough members to make a quorum in the House.RobSFree Kyle! 10:34, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
I'm even more convinced Biden is putting on an act and is looking to sucker-punch Trump in the debates. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 13:57, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Here is the August 11 article by former generals John Nagl and Paul Yingling that got all this coup talk started. I have reason to doubt the coup plotting abilities of this pair. They don't seem to understand how the transition will work.
The governor of each state sends the Electoral College total for his state to the vice president, who counts the votes before Congress on January 6. This is the newly elected Congress, which is sworn in on January 3. The vice president will go through the states in alphabetical order. If both chambers object, the state's vote is not counted. Otherwise, Congress certifies the vice president's count.
Nagl and Yingling wrongly claim that the outgoing Congress will count the votes. This was changed by the 20th Amendment in 1937. They imagine the House certifying Biden and the Senate refusing to act. But the current rules are designed to avoid this type of split outcome. PeterKa (talk) 23:14, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Hold on a sec about RCP's "updated" Senate projections: so Arizona is lean Democrat, yet Colorado's a tossup? I personally think that RCP is better than most election "predictions" such as Cook Political Report, though they still do have some flaws. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 21:23, 5 September 2020 (EDT)
Also, Michigan has a chance of flipping if Trump wins the state in his concurrent presidential race. —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 22:05, 5 September 2020 (EDT)

Another headline suggestion

Here's another idea for an MPR headline:

House Democrat Abby Finkenauer claims to support border security, which contradicts her left-wing, anti-Trump voting record. [51] Support Ashley Hinson for Congress!

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 15:30, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

Also, here's yet another one based on a Breitbart exclusive:

Liberal hack Jake Tapper tried to convince 2020 GOP House candidate Sean Parnell not to run against Conor Lamb. [52] What is Tapper worried about?

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Sunday, 16:44, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

I saw that RobSmith posted them on MPR. Thank you! —LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Monday, 21:42, 6 September 2020 (EDT)

More MPR proposals

Here are some more ideas for MPR headlines:

Half-wit Whitmer says that Biden campaign events are fine, but Trump rallies aren't. [53] See here for a list of her hypocrisy.

The Hill got caught in their outright fake news “reporting”. [54]

LiberaltearsMay Dataclarifier's mother be all well! Wednesday, 15:34, 9 September 2020 (EDT)

Election countdown

Hi, guys! I added a "weeks until election" countdown to the news headlines section, on the right. It updates automatically, twice a week, and it's accurate to half a week. (If it's too distracting there, we can move it to a different page, like Election Day 2020.) --Ed Poor Talk 09:50, 10 September 2020 (EDT)

That's terrific, Ed! Very well done!!!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:11, 10 September 2020 (EDT)


Who would be in charge in a Biden administration? Pretty clearly, not the empty-headed Biden. He refers to the future administration as "Harris-Biden" and "Obama-Biden." Harris does the same. After all, being a second banana is what Biden knows best. See "First Kamala Harris, Now Joe Biden Himself Says the Quiet Part Out Loud as to Who Would Be In Charge If He Won." In short, we can expect Harris's agenda to override the constitution to triumph over Biden's nostalgia for that old piece of parchment. Literally no one voted for the Harris platform, yet the Dems are now stuck with it. See "Why Does Kamala Harris Hate the Constitution?" PeterKa (talk) 02:36, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

Smart or dumb, Trump is studying the wrong Biden debate recordings. His advisors should be sure to include the debates Biden had with Justice Clarence Thomas' socially-liberal Supreme Court detractors after midnight on the Judge's confirmation hearing days to be sure to show Trump Biden's full abilities in mastery of constitutional scholarship including individual rights under the law and fending off the left (and by extension the ability to fend off himself) from the presumed damagability from their own clichés. VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 03:57, 16 September 2020 (EDT)
That's a good point. Biden has an extensive history in constitutional issues. For him to select a constitution-bashing running mate suggests that he no longer believes in anything beyond lining the wallets of himself and his family.
Harris is using the phrase "a Harris administration...together with Joe Biden."[55] I take it that Biden will be propped up and carried around. PeterKa (talk) 04:51, 17 September 2020 (EDT)
If Biden gets five or six good hits in in the first debate, all his gaffes will be forgotten, and in fact, they will be replayed endlessly on every news medium as the upset of the decade, like the success of the Republican National Convention over the Democratic one when Sarah Palin gave her speech. I don't want to be discouraging, so bear in mind that I won't mention why I don't think that approach will work in the end, so it doesn't get prepared for against. But maybe with the tension in the country, they'll mutually agree to lower the pressure. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:39, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Dems shift focus to covid

The Dems are currently focusing on covid as their ticket to the White House. It's hard to see this as anything other than a cynical poll-tested exercise. The Dems first response to a disease is rarely to worry about infection. Instead, they focus on the possibility that the disease will cause some ethnic group or minority to be discriminated against. African countries imposed travel restrictions over Ebola, but not Obama. Instead, he made a point of hugging Ebola victims. When Trump imposed a ban on travel from China, Pelosi and Biden claimed it was "xenophobia."[56] You can't trust people who think like this with a serious public health issue.

The Dems are making a big deal about Trump "playing [covid] down." In the context of the interview, it is clear that all he meant to say is he was hoping to avoid a panic. We got a nationwide panic all the same, so he could have played it down more.

I was thinking about what life would be like if the Democrats had been in charge during covid. It would be the AIDS crisis all over again. No matter how many people died of the virus, if you complained you would be accused of xenophobia and insulting Chinese. Norm McDonald told a story about how he was at an event in which a performer splattered blood on the audience. Everyone cheered. They feared being accused of homophobia far more than they did getting AIDS. For covid, Hollywood up-and-comers would have to sneeze on each other or something. PeterKa (talk) 17:56, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

I think most anyone would be educated by your interesting story and original thinking. Don't get whiplash as they "shift" to global warming once again as the government epidemiologists (I heard only two members of the whole CDC contributed to Republicans) start to take the heat for being immune to the drastic consequences of their often erratic advice. VargasMilan (talk) Thursday, 05:56, 17 September 2020 (EDT)


400 years ago today, on September 16, 1620, the Mayflower set sail for the New World, the most important voyage in history!—Ann Coulter

VargasMilan (talk) Wednesday, 15:51, 16 September 2020 (EDT)

Wildfires chase arsonists from Portland

The riots in Portland have stopped. No one seems to know why, but it's probably connected to the wildfires. That is to say, Antifa doesn't want to be accused of starting fires as long the wildfires dominate the headlines. See "Poof! The Portland Riots Just Stopped. Why?". PeterKa (talk) 03:28, 17 September 2020 (EDT)

Trump’s “military” deployment of vaccines on Nov. 1 is a clever cover story to prepare for Insurrection Act invocation, mass arrests using military police

"Trump’s plan to defend America and take down her domestic enemies is now becoming increasingly clear, and one new bombshell conclusion in all this concerns Trump’s vow to use the US military to deploy vaccines nationwide before the election on Nov. 3rd.

We now believe, for reasons outlined here, that the “military deployment” of vaccines is a cover story. Trump is using the vaccine issue to place military units in position all across the nation to prepare for a post-election invocation of the Insurrection Act which would activate the military to confront and arrest or eliminate domestic terrorists across the country.

In other words, Trump isn’t really leaping in with the vaccine industry as much as we once feared. “Operation Warp Speed” isn’t really a vaccine operation but rather a national security operation that will put US troops on the streets of every American city in an effort to restore the rule of law, arrest treasonous actors (including mayors and governors) and put down left-wing terrorists.[57]

What think ye? RobSFree Kyle! 00:02, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

We'll certainly know the effectiveness based on how much the left will scream that "Trump is literally Hitler!"
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 00:21, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
All we need is to make a physical link between a person associated with ACTBlue, the DNC, and Thousand Currents with BLM or Antifa giving marching orders for the scheduled riots beginning Nov. 4, and Soros, Pelosi, Marc Elias. Maxine et al ad infinitum can be arrested for sedition. Remember, Trump and Barr are running the FISA program now to protect America's national security now.RobSFree Kyle! 01:22, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
If that's so, then it must be surprising to see that the FISA process is being used without ridiculous abuses of power.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:28, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Soros makes a donation to BLM; BLM trained Marxists coordinate with Antifa via Twitter for riots. Under the two-hop rule, it shouldn't be hard to discover the whole subversive network. RobSFree Kyle! 02:01, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
The only thing Obama's illegal spying came up with was Stormy Daniels. Now the electronic surveillance apparatus is in the hands of professionals who do things "by the book". RobSFree Kyle! 02:04, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

Could the lack of sudden page view surges for recent page creations be due to potential leftist hackers amidst the upcoming elections?

I noticed for the past few while that hardly any page creations will get sudden surges in page views to ~400, 800, 1,000, 2,000, or even 3,000-4,000 views as had happened prior to around when the server errors started occurring very frequently. Perhaps it really does have something to do with commie hackers, or something along those lines?
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:02, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

According to Alexa, CP went from 70%+ Search traffic to 31%, while competitors dropped from the mid 60s to about 51%. IOWs, CP's search traffic was cut in half. Google evidently has blacklisted some content. We need some of our Search engine gurus like User:Conservative or Vargas Milan to look into this. RobSFree Kyle! 01:07, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
For Example: Google has blacklisted CP's Kamala Harris page. The talk:Kamala Harris page showed up at about #106 a few weeks ago. RobSFree Kyle! 01:09, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Hmm, that's interesting. My Charles A. Halleck page, with over 3,000 page views, currently shows up as the top 7th result on Google, the top 2nd result on Yahoo, the top 2nd result on Bing, and the top 2nd result on DuckDuckGo.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:13, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Since the change of servers, CP went from 1.9 page views per visitor to 7.2, Time on Site from under 2 minutes to 5:54 minutes. The content is definitely being consumed. RobSFree Kyle! 01:16, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Hmm, interesting. No wonder it's possible that Google may be blacklisting us amidst the upcoming elections.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 01:31, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Since there's reduced Google traffic and referrals from Facebook, Twitter, or Youtube, the increased user base must be organic. The chalenge now is for CP to old on to it, since Facebook and Twitter censorship between now and Inauguration Day guarantees an increase. RobSFree Kyle! 01:57, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Alright then, I'll try to add constant edits to the CP pages for the Senate and House elections this year, and aim for over 25,000 page views each for them by election day.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Friday, 02:05, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
That's a good idea. If CP results could show up next to Ballotpedia google results, it could be a real winner. All we need is, like Ballotpedia, is have skeleton outline pages all pre-formatted. As members make stupid statements and get involved in scandals, we have a ready place to hang it. RobSFree Kyle! 02:14, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

Excessive permissions for page locking

Can Conservapedia administrators please stop maxing out page permissions? There are several levels of permissions:

1) Skip captcha
2) Overnight editing
3) Blocking trolls
4) Upload
5) Rollback
6) Move
7) Protect/unprotect

I would like to make an edit to the page U.S. "Party-switch" myth, a page I've made many edits to in the past(and I would like to think are good edits, they've been expanded on by others) so why did the permissions go from zero all the way to the top of 10000 skipping everything inbetween? Isn't it reasonable that anybody who doesn't have either block or skip captcha is a sufficient enough permission to get the job done of hindering trolls? Conservapedia is a continually growing website with many new users, and by blocking new users(but perhaps promoted once or twice) just the same still probably gives trolls a win. Progressingamerica (talk) 10:52, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

You make great points and I have unlocked the entry. I will also look into this issue of levels of permission further. Thank you.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2020 (EDT)
Thanks Andy. Is locking the page for skip captcha (or above levels below admin) not possible? Progressingamerica (talk) 12:13, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

The 1776 Commission

This initiative alone justifies Trump's reelection: "Liberals howl when Trump announces '1776 Commission'." The president of the American Federation of Teachers calls it "disgusting," which tells you all you need to know about the state of today's teacher's unions. PeterKa (talk) 20:45, 18 September 2020 (EDT)

Its too bad that more conservatives aren't active in the realm of historical topics, as this gives progressives a clear field to run unopposed there. There's a lot of good that we can do on our own as "we the people" restoring history, without waiting for government to do our jobs for us. I've been working for almost a decade now, but it's really lonely in these woods! Progressingamerica (talk) 11:51, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Justice Ginsberg dies

Who remembers the Merrick Garland episode in 2016? At that time, the Dems told us that because Scalia died on Obama's watch, his seat belonged to them. What happens to the Senate in this view of the constitution? A rubber stamp for the president? It was like "collusion." The Dems put forward a ridiculous claim and never felt any need to explain themselves further. This time around is totally different, according to Chuck Schumer, the Democratic leader in the Senate: the Senate should not fill the vacancy left by Ginsburg's death "until we have a new president."[58] Notice that there is no pretense here of respecting election outcomes, either the last one or the next one.

That Ruth Bader Ginsburg died in office exposes flaw in the system. It seems unlikely that she was a functioning judge in the months before she died. Supreme Court appointments should be for 18 years or for some other fixed number. A group of senior appeals court judges could be moved up to the Supreme Court periodically. The constitution requires appointments for life, but that provision can be addressed by moving a justice to another court at the end of his term.

The talk of Ginsberg dying has been going on for a year now. Supreme Court justice should not be such an important position that a single death can attract this much attention. So there is a case to be made for a larger court with more justices. Even the First Circuit, the smallest of the 13 appeals courts, has ten judges. With more justices, the Supreme Court could consider cases with three-judge panels like the appeals courts do. PeterKa (talk) 01:52, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

I somewhat noticed for the past few months that many liberals seemed to think Ginsburg was doing fine, despite everything suggesting otherwise. Also, given her left-wing judicial record in favoring abortion and the homosexual agenda, I certainly hope that the Lord will have mercy on her soul.
LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Saturday, 02:06, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
This happened at a time when Conservapedia has been receiving its recent surge in popularity. Obviously we are a long-awaited voice for "working womon", who would be ideal to cultivate for social information projects that would be sure to be convenient for both our interests, and who don't want to have to watch as some "gay" is getting a so-called "mate" sooner than the real one they are working hard year after year at the daily grind to attract.
Did I just use weasel words? Pardon me for trying to be polite—to those who aren't dashing about in crazed eagerness to prejudge conservatives. Those who are have already stopped reading. Benefits to society are exactly what the Supreme Court talks about when it decides changes in laws.
Gay unions aren't equal in terms of offspring, stability or approval by the Holy Apostle—sorry to awaken you from self-flattering slumbers, but if weren't for Christians, this country would not be up! That you think people like you are so special that Christian America can't provide them a place for those who are loyal is so laughable, that it just tells me it's probably time for you to take a good, long look in the mirror and decide if you really want to live in America and take responsibility for the freedom she enjoys. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 06:10, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

While you're discussing Ginsberg, can someone explain something to a foreign observer? When there was a vacancy on the SCOTUS at the end of Obama's presidency, the Republican Party was adamant for legal, constitutional and moral reasons that no new judge should be appointed until the new President was elected. Does that mean Ginsberg's successor won't be appointed until after this election? Rafael (talk) 07:59, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Majority leader Mitch McConnell has already announced that he will hold a vote on Trump's nominee, so the short answer is "no." There is no issue more important to the Republican base than getting a pro-constitution majority on the Supreme Court, so I don't think he has a choice. No Democrat recognized the "no election year appointment" principle back in 2016. Who are they kidding by bringing it up now? PeterKa (talk) 08:19, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
Thank you. These are very interesting times. I'm not sure if I've missed a nuance in the last sentence, however. This is not a matter for the Democrats, who are in opposition, is it? Rafael (talk) 10:50, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I know this is a standard argument on the left, but I don't follow the logic. McConnell lied back in 2016, so the Democrats should get an extra Supreme Court seat? Huh? Even if McConnell had held a vote, Garland would still not have gotten on the Supreme Court. About a third of the nominations to the Supreme Court don't get confirmed. If you think Garland was robbed of a seat, what about Bork? PeterKa (talk) 13:12, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I don't see where left and right comes into what is a question of administration. In the UK, the government appoints the judiciary. The opposition can scream and shout and stand on their heads, the appointment stands. I assume that's not the case in the US but if the Republicans have the authority and the mandate, what can the Democrats do beyond stalling the confirmation? Does the appointment stand if there is a change of administration during the confirmation hearings? If so, what's the fuss? On the other hand, looking at what happened in 2016, maybe it's not so clearly defined. I come here to learn some of the subtler points of US politics but I'm struggling to understand the basic principles of appointing a new SCOTUS judge. Rafael (talk) 14:49, 26 September 2020 (EDT)
McConnell plans to hold a vote on Barrett before the election. If she is confirmed by a majority of the Senate, as everyone assumes she will be, she becomes a lifetime member of the court. Some Dems have proposed expanding the court after the election to maintain a liberal majority. But nothing like that has ever been done before. The "fuss" is because liberals have been the majority on the court since the 1930s. Barrett's appointment would create a conservative majority. PeterKa (talk) 22:43, 26 September 2020 (EDT)

That is a loaded question. And you used weasel words. So okay, it was an unloaded question. Can we expect to you to fill up those empty generalities soon with actual content like the way I just did, or was that an application of what we are hearing so much about: critical pseudo-theory—that was just banned? VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 08:27, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

The Dems are retweeting Ginsburg's supposed last words as, "Justice Ginsburg dictated a statement before her death: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed." So even if Trump is reelected, the Dems still won't recognized that he has the right to make Supreme Court nominations. If you listen to Dems recently, it sounds like they just a wanted a vote back in 2016. Only Susan Collins wanted a vote. The Dems were saying the seat rightfully belonged to them. If there had been vote, Garland would almost certainly have been rejected.
What could be more hypocritical than Obama making the argument that Trump has no right to replace Ginsburg given he nominated Garland in similar circumstances? See "Obama on filling Ginsburg's seat: Apply rules with consistency." Strictly speaking, Obama has not yet excluded the possibility of being "consistent" himself by supporting Trump's nominee, although that strikes me as highly unlikely. PeterKa (talk) 09:09, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
How about Michael Flynn perjuring himself in a plea deal to save his son and the Justice Department trying to throw it out just because he was never sentenced, smart guy? And if you try to mention he was only indicted in the first place because he was framed with rogue-FBI-manufactured evidence, you obviously don't understand how angry I am at being thwarted as result of my selfishly in-"consistent" command of applying just behavior, and "just" might riot in a fit of unfocused rage! In a Democrat-run city, of course. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 09:25, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Liberals are $platinum$ mad...what's in your wallet?

Things to do (think and feel):

a special person like me suffers a special kind of grief. Everybody needs to know, and nobody gets to examine the thinking that caused it, or the degree of expectation that would have mercifully absorbed the shock, because that hurts too.nfsnhDWbwh
howl with rage that anyone would try to undo the great things done by the one the loss of whom caused me such incoherent grief!
channel those feelings into raising money through those who previously laundered the funds raised by terrorist supporters to those who sanction the activities by their silence and weasel words.

Soccer practice:

Draw close to opponent and suddenly clutch knee, fall over and scream in pain...

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 08:55, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Rafael suffers kind of paralysis, but buddy Carltonio immediately comes to the rescue with a win!

"Use"-evolution not denied by every scientist! Who knows, maybe once you learn the three laws of Newtonian physics, and those alone, you can "use" them, personally, all on your own, to design a spacecraft mission to deliver a man to the moon and return him safely to earth!

So do you guys just work in tandem online, or do you work together in real life to trip people to the ground for whom you feel spite? If not, you might want to try it! Think of how sweet it would feel!

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 10:08, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

It's been a long week and I don't know where to start deciphering your post. I can only pray your day gets better. Rafael (talk) 10:48, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
Rafael, it would be big of you to admit that riots are possible rather than just call the times "interesting". VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 11:31, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
I think you have me confused with someone else. Rafael (talk) 14:43, 26 September 2020 (EDT)

Ginsburg and the unfortunate outcome for our military to a breach of separation of powers based on a poorly-evidenced or falsely-evidenced casus belli

Ginsburg sharply criticized Syrian President Bashar al-Assad in an interview with ABC, calling for him to cease the use of chemical weapons on civilians in Syria.


Assad: "Assad must go? Ha-ha-ha!"

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 10:34, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Italy drops a dime

I never found out when the Italian government alerted Durham about certain potentially criminal matters in their country (is that a phrase?). But events have proceeded along past and brought us to a time where we can get an idea of what the order is in which the consequences of that notification are expected to follow soon:

Your reminder that the Durham probe became criminal in nature ONLY after ITALY provided the investigators with information about Joseph Mifsud and his bizarre meetings with me in Rome and London. The action is on what was happening abroad, hence, Brennan in the hot seat.—George P., September 18, 2020.

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 04:27, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Brennan and Dearlove engineered the conspiracy to meddle in the US election in order to preserve US taxpayer support for NATO (whose mission changed from defending Europe to waging aggressive war in Africa). Brennan and Dearlove put Halper in charge of hiring Mifsud, Downer, Azra Turk, and other OCONUS lures.
The Russian bogeyman was needed to justify waging aggressive war against Libya (to further French and UK commercial interests on the US taxpayer dime) and Syria as a proxy wr against Iran. Flynn, of course, opposed all this. Hence Flynn was he original target cause he was guiding Trump. RobSFree Kyle! 13:15, 19 September 2020 (EDT)
BoJo is up to his eyes in all this, cause he was Dearlove's boss at the time. But the UK and NATO have had a free ride for so long, you almost can hardly blame them for thinking they are entitled to put the cost of their own defense on the backs of US taxpayers. RobSFree Kyle! 13:25, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Coulter alert

"NO! NO! NO! Barrett says she'll recuse herself in any case where the Pope has a specific view, like the death penalty. No."

I am reluctant to approve of Coulter's objections. Ruth Bader Ginsberg has a female identity and by every right should be replaced by someone sharing that female identity. Some liberal women are so superior through their enlightened emotional, intellectual and ethical—nay, if they don't transcend ethics altogether, progress to the rest of the American public, it would be laughable to think they could be fairly represented by a mere man:

Men, now would be a good time to not minimize the sadness of the women in your lives and just know that she meant more to them than you could possibly understand.—Erin GrudgePAC Ryan

But I know how enraged RobS would be if I supported a liberal-pope-approval-seeking judicial candidate. VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:05, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

See this exposes the fault of Roman church teaching and law; the Pope, who speaks for God (irregardless if he's an avowed Holy Spirit blasphemer and Satanist which God himself is powerless to revoke the auhority he handed to Peter, per Dataclarifier), represents a political institution (despite the fact Jesus said my kingom is not of this world) and creates a conflict of interest for a Roman Catholic judge. It would simply be easier to recognize the authority of the Bible, which creates deniability for political interests, and toss out this pretensious "Vicar of Christ" stuff. RobSFree Kyle! 13:06, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Why did FOX censor Gingrich?

Simple. Because Melissa Francis hates DeBlasio and Cuomo so much, holding them responsible for killing the elderly through their Wuhan virus policies in New York, she renounced conservatism altogether, having been wavering before, and dismissed the suggestion of prosecutorial misconduct by means of intruding political agents so nothing would stand between her and bringing the two to justice. She has often asked them to resign on her popular Twitter page. It was a knee-jerk reaction, and Harris Faulker simply didn't know what to say to that.

That's why she is no longer among the Top conservatives on Twitter. She renounced being a conservative on her Twitter page.

VargasMilan (talk) Saturday, 12:19, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

Geez I figured Soros had ongoing defamation lawsuits against Fox and Fox was just scared of adding further fuel to ongoing litigation. RobSFree Kyle! 13:38, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

"President Trump's nominee will receive a vote on the floor of the United States Senate"

Read the dogwhistle in McConnell's language. A SCOTUS pick is not even an election year issue. "Trump's pick" will get a vote before January 20, 2021. Lindsey needs to get the hearings cranked up before RBG corpse gets cold. Another Kavanaugh smear-type riot will save the Trump campaign's advertising budget millions. RobSFree Kyle! 16:05, 19 September 2020 (EDT)

The new Congress is sworn in on January 3. I assume a vote will be held before then. Susan Collins says that the vote has to be after the election.[59] Collins wanted a vote on Garland in 2016. So how a can she oppose a vote this time around? It's all about maintaining her position in the middle of the Senate political spectrum. PeterKa (talk) 08:14, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
January is tentative; by Nov. 4 we should have some idea if the final deadline in Jan. 3 or Jan. 20. Democrats will try every delay, holding "extended hearings" with bogus charges, asking for a week long FBI investigation, etc etc. We've seen it all before now at least twice. RobSFree Kyle! 14:58, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

Let the rape accusations begin!

This prophetic article was written a year ago, and I still haven't stopped laughing: "OPED: I was raped by whoever Trump picks to replace Ginsburg on the Supreme Court." Don't say she is lying until you have looked into those doe eyes of hers. PeterKa (talk) 04:14, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

Dems talk gangster: "everything is on table"

The Democrats thought a Senate confirmation vote was vital during 2016 campaign. But to do one now would be such a norm-busting event that the logical recourse would be to increase the number of justices and pack the courts whenever the Dems finally get back into power. See "'Nothing is off the table': Supreme Court fight could reshape the Senate" This is so hypocritical in so many ways. There are certainly arguments for enlarging the court. But to do it this way would make it a partisan tool, an American politburo. No one who actually believed in constitutionalism would threaten to override the constitution in this way. To bow to this kind of threat would ensure that the Dems will make it again and again. Besides, a conservative court would mostly be about returning control of abortion, guns, marriage, voting rights, and other matters to the various states. All of this is supported by public opinion. The Dem's antics over Kavanaugh cost them the Senate in 2018. I suspect that doubling down on this approach won't work.

Chief Justice Roberts likes to vote with the majority because he gets to write the opinion whenever he does. So another conservative on the court could flip a whole category of decisions from 5-4 liberal to 6-3 conservative. PeterKa (talk) 08:59, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

Back in 2016 Conservapdia among many others urged and supported the delay for filling the vacancy. 4 years on the same people are saying that it would a travesty if the nomination is delayed. This represents a double standard. As double standards are firmly in the the realm of liberalism is makes be question whether Conserapedia and Mr Schlafly are in fact liberal. It is also hypocritical to say the least, see my point above about double standards.--Rennais (talk) 12:56, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
To address your point, unlike with 2016, Trump is literally running for reelection (Obama was a Lame Duck president at the time). Your point would have been more sound if this were the 2024 elections. Pokeria1 (talk) 14:07, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
In 2010 the American people gave the Republican party authority to confirm presidential appointments, irrespective of party. They've held that authority continuously for a decade through 5 election cycles. There is no double standard here. RobSFree Kyle! 14:54, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
The GOP Senate's biggest failure was confirming James Comey; so there is plenty of probable cause to suspect anything coming from Democrats as partisan and lawless. RobSFree Kyle! 15:05, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
In fact I would venture to say, GOP members of the Senate knew of directly (McCain) or suspected (Grassley, Burr, McConnell, Graham) Obama's FISA abuse and Obama's misuse of the FBI & CIA (an impeachable offense, per the Nixon precedent) to meddle in the 2016 election. Given Obama's lawless agenda, GOP Senators did the right thing. Obama and the Democrats destroyed any notion of good faith, which was readily apparent by the Summer of 2016. The Democrats collusion with lawless elements to disrupt the orderly process of democracy and Congressional hearings in the Kavanaugh smear, the continuing War on Cops, and Democrat donor-sponsored lawlessness and riots only confirm these suspicions. RobSFree Kyle! 15:59, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

The Senate majority can hold a vote on confirmation or not as it sees fit. Neither approach is logically a reason to pack the court for the purpose of overturning constitutional government. A Senate vote would not have changed the outcome for Garland. Garland wasn't confirmed because he did not have the support of the majority of the Senate. There is a long list of other Supreme Court nominees who were rejected for the same reason. Here is a published article that makes the same points: "There Is No Reason Why Republicans Shouldn’t Fill the SCOTUS Vacancy."

Is concern about covid a form of xenophobia? Do we need police? Are anti-police rioters heroes? The Democratic position on each of these issues has been a roller coaster ride in just the last couple of months. But the liberal idea of a great scandal is that McConnell said something different four years ago than what he has said recently. PeterKa (talk) 15:17, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

And correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Garland recently voted to continue the unjust persecution of Gen. Flynn. It was the right move to keep that partisan criminal piece of garbage off the high court. RobSFree Kyle! 16:19, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
Now, one can argue the GOP should have gone forward with Garland hearings and forced Senators to go on record voting down an Obama appointee - but that misses the point entirely that McConnell and Judiciary Chairman Grassley made at the time - that Obama's lawless agenda by appointing criminal thugs (witness Comey's hijacking the DOJ to clear Clinton) needed to stop. Obama destroyed any notion of good faith in the Democrat's constant overreaching lust for more power. RobSFree Kyle! 16:30, 20 September 2020 (EDT)
Here is a video of Biden annunciating the Biden "rule" in 1992. McConnell cited this rule as a justification for not holding a vote on Garland. After watching the video, I would say that the Biden rule was created for another era, a time when the Senate was full of comity that occasionally broke down during the heat of a presidential campaign. Biden denies that he is waiting for the inauguration of a Democratic president. The logical conclusion is that the transition is the right time for a confirmation vote. The idea that partisonship will decline during the transition strikes me as quite dated at this point.
"The president is elected for four years, not three years. So the powers that he has in year three continues into year four. Maybe some members of the Senate will wake up and appreciate that that's how it should be." -- Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 2016.[60] PeterKa (talk) 01:53, 22 September 2020 (EDT)
Instant Karma. RobSFree Kyle! 15:08, 22 September 2020 (EDT)

An interesting poll...

According to this article by The Hill, the headline says that "Biden leads Trump by 12 points among Catholic voters: poll". However, the first sentence says that "Joe Biden holds a 12-point lead over President Trump among likely voters who identify as Catholic." Here's the really interesting (though unsurprising) part: 58% of those who attend Mass daily support Trump, along with 61% who attend more than once a week; just under 70% of those who rarely attend Mass support Biden. In addition, Trump seems to be improving among Hispanic Catholics compared to in 2016. —LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Tuesday, 20:25, 21 September 2020 (EDT)

And Trump's support among Catholics will improve significantly as Dems attack his upcoming nominee to the U.S. Supreme Court for being Catholic.

.8 billion

It looks like it is 8 billion.. if that's the point, that is kind of misleading. Just saying, as a conservative and all, I just want it to be true, so I think something like 0.8 billion or 800 million would be better. Presidentofyes12 (talk) 13:56, 23 September 2020 (EDT)

I dunno; when we see the official retraction from the Biden campaign of 200,000,000 million covid deaths, WaPo giving Biden 4 Pinocchios, and Snopes labeling Biden's claim as false, it may be something to consider. RobSFree Kyle! 14:59, 23 September 2020 (EDT)

Crenshaw ad

Behind U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw's eyepatch is a Terminator 2-style scanner. He travels Texas to recruit a team of Republican congressional candidates, at least if we take this campaign ad at face value. PeterKa (talk) 11:24, 25 September 2020 (EDT)

Live debate updates

  • Biden slightly fumbles, saying "uh" frequently
  • Biden: "I am the Democratic Party"
  • Trump goes off on Biden over the coronavirus pandemic
  • Biden appears sleepy compared to Trump
  • Trump goes off on Wallace
  • Biden fumbles between Medicare and Medicaid
  • Trump roasts Biden for finishing last in class
  • Biden ironically claims that Trump "doesn't know what he's talking about"
  • Biden claims that Trump "shut down" the economy when Democrat governors did such
  • Biden repeats the "inject bleach" hoax
  • Trump says that no one shows up to Biden "rallies"
  • Biden slightly fumbles
  • Biden lies, ridiculously claiming that Trump has done "nothing" to help small businesses
  • Wallace brings up Trump's tax payments
  • Biden says Trump is America's "worst" president "ever"
  • Biden says he'll raise taxes
  • Biden makes false attacks against Trump over the economy before the CCP pandemic
  • Trump brings up Hunter Biden
  • Wallace: "It's an open discussion"; Trump: "It's a FACT"
  • Trump argues with Wallace
  • Biden repeats the "very fine people" hoax
  • Trump brings up the Biden Crime Bill
  • Biden fumbles
  • Biden says that Trump "looks down" on "Irish Catholics" while Democrats currently smear Amy Coney Barrett for being Catholic
  • Biden appears increasingly sleepy
  • Biden relies on "experts", while Trump relies on facts
  • Biden fumbles on saying "booming", lies about Trump's toughness on Russia, repeats the "losers and suckers" hit piece claim, cites Mitt Romney to attempt rebuking Trump
  • Biden favors globalism
  • Biden makes a highly misleading comment about mail-in voting; Trump clarifies the importance of solicited ballots
  • Biden said that the military "votes by ballots"; did he mean "vote by mail"?

LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 21:12, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

CNN's headline is "An absolutely awful debate: Trump derails the night with insults and interruptions." Meanwhile, the Washington Post is bemoaning Chris Wallace's failure to "control Trump." So I take that Trump won. Before the debate, Wallace said he wanted to slip into the background and let Trump and Biden go at it. That didn't happen. In fact, it was more like a Trump-Wallace debate. Why can't Trump ask Biden how his family got so wealthy? If there was any answer did not involve corruption and trading on political connections, we would have heard it.

Next time, Trump has to call Biden on the claim that Trump's assertion that there were "fine people on both sides" of the Charlottesville Confederate statue debate was somehow a reference to white supremists. There seems be a consensus that Trump was too belligerent and interrupted too much. This strategy worked with Hillary in 2016. But if Trump had allowed Biden to finish his thoughts, the audience would have had better sense of how serious his mental decline is. PeterKa (talk) 11:13, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

While the media will paint Trump as some kind of a bully, they can't get around the fact that Chuck- er, Chris Wallace was completely inept in attempting to "control" the president from going after Biden. Also, about Biden's mental decline, it seemed to me that he started out mediocre in terms of energy and got somewhat sleepier as the debate dragged on. —LiberaltearsMay D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well! Wednesday, 12:29, 30 September 2020 (EDT)