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It's funny to read Dilma Rousseff labeled "Marxist", since in the 13 years of her party's misgovernment the only ones who profited were the dozen or so of the most rich people in Brazil. If "left" is governing for the people and "right" for the rich (which it isn't, but that's how leftists think about themselves), then Dilma and Lula were extreme-extreme-extreme-right. Sunda62 (talk) 11:25, 14 May 2016 (EDT)

But this is the argument that the left uses to say they have no blame of the shit that PT did in Brazil: say the party is on the right because governed for the rich, which the left has always done since born. All that Dilma did makes she's more Marxist and fascist.--Renan Jackson (talk) 11:56, 4 June 2016 (EDT)

Recommended

Very good read on Bolsanaro. Recommended! RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 16:50, 9 October 2018 (EDT)

Unrelated to the above, this article might be helpful when looking at who Bolsonaro chooses for his cabinet: [1] --1990'sguy (talk) 00:02, 30 October 2018 (EDT)

Pssst, Rumor is, Bolsanaro is going to force regime change in Venezuela so the U.S. doesn't dirty its hands. Keep it on the down low. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 19:24, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

And another heads up: I'd be careful about marrying Bolsanaro too close to Trump, IMO. You may have to walk it all back at some point. Brazilian politics are notoriously corrupt. Right now, Brazil is cashing in big time on trade deals with China after Trump's tariffs. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 13:52, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Good point. If Bolsonaro does shift, we should still note that he held conservative positions prior to his election and hold him accountable. --1990'sguy (talk) 15:57, 5 November 2018 (EST)

It's the critics that call him the Brazilian Trump, which is a code word for him being racist. It has little to do with his conservative or ringwing associations. He's largely regarded by them as a brainless boob and front man for the corrupt powers that be. According to this article, "more than half of senators and one third of Congress are facing criminal investigations." The article also claims the real power center remains the Brazilian military.

Sure, the article is written by a longtime leftwing Brazilian journalist, however the editors of consortiumnews are among the best in reporting on intelligence matters. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 17:41, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Unlike Trump, Bolsonaro is not a man of independent wealth. He is indeed the front man for traditional ruling circles. While the US & Brazil may see eye to eye on Venezuela, it remains to be seen cooperation on China. Brazil is picking up many of the trade contracts dropped due to tariffs. That income to China fuels the Chinese military build-up. If Bolsonaro agrees with Trump on restricting Chinese inports, than a closer association between Trump and Bolsonaro can be made. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!}

Here's an interesting (paywall) op-ed regarding evangelical support for Bolsonaro: [2] --1990'sguy (talk) 23:15, 6 November 2018 (EST)

This article (despite the paywall) seems critical of Bolsonaro, but it describes him as "2018's biggest winner": [3] --1990'sguy (talk) 00:09, 9 January 2019 (EST)

I am not adding this article (for, hopefully, obvious reasons), but it is very in-depth and very interesting and helpful: [4] --1990'sguy (talk) 00:14, 9 January 2019 (EST)

This article discusses divisions in Bolsonaro's cabinet: [5] --1990'sguy (talk) 14:56, 9 January 2019 (EST)

This article discusses retractions made by Bolsonaro's cabinet in his first several days in office: [6] --1990'sguy (talk) 23:17, 12 January 2019 (EST)

Also, this article on Bolsonaro's social media use/strategy is interesting: [7] --1990'sguy (talk) 23:20, 12 January 2019 (EST)

This is another article that is biased and exaggerates, but it does state that conservatives viewed his order increasing gun rights as not going as far as they had expected: [8] --1990'sguy (talk) 18:23, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Jerusalem

We will know soon if Bolsonaro is the real deal or a weak status-quo president. He seems to be backtracking on whether to move Brazil's embassy to Jerusalem: [9] The media has been portraying him as being even more right-wing as Donald Trump, so we'll find out if Bolsonaro has a backbone like Trump. --1990'sguy (talk) 10:36, 8 November 2018 (EST)

Bolsonaro met with Netanyahu, but there was no embassy announcement: [10] --1990'sguy (talk) 11:33, 29 December 2018 (EST)

The Israelis think Bolsonaro is still likely going to move the embassy: [11][12][13][14] --1990'sguy (talk) 10:22, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Again, American MSM portrayals of him being "rightwing", "conservative", and "Trump-like" are leftist codewords for him being a racist. The Brazilian left used the same language in the recent election. True, the anti-drug Evangelicals supported Bolsonaro, but basically it's a coalition of entrenched militarists and law-and-order evangelicals fighting Soros-funded leftist mobs in Brazil right now, complete with the LGBTQXYZs. It's a mistake to think they have anything like a functioning democracy in their legislature. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 10:50, 8 November 2018 (EST)

Now, he has apparently abandoned his promise to merge the agriculture and environment ministries: [15] --1990'sguy (talk) 09:47, 9 November 2018 (EST)

A good sign, the Brazilian government (pre-Bolsonaro) canceled Brazil's hosting of a UN climate meeting next year: 1,2 --1990'sguy (talk) 16:18, 28 November 2018 (EST)

The Trump Administration is trying to convince Bolsonaro to leave the Paris agreement: [16][17] --1990'sguy (talk) 10:22, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Spouse

His spouse is called Michelle Bolsonaro, he is divorced from Ana Cristina Valle --Brazilian (talk) 21:51, 29 November 2018 (EST)

Things to watch

Brazil's parliament will try to pass a bill recognizing the right to own a gun for self-defense: [18] --1990'sguy (talk) 09:37, 3 December 2018 (EST)

On the bright side, Brazil's incoming foreign minister says Brazil will quit the UN Migrant Treaty,[19][20] but on the other hand, the incoming environment minister says that the country should remain in the Paris agreement.[21] --1990'sguy (talk) 12:15, 11 December 2018 (EST)

Bolsonaro said he would sign a decree allowing all non-criminals to buy guns: [22][23] --1990'sguy (talk) 17:25, 29 December 2018 (EST)

Jair Bolsonaro was a great choice for our first runner-up in Conservative of the Year 2018!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 12:49, 9 January 2019 (EST)

I completely agree -- he was an excellent choice. --1990'sguy (talk) 14:56, 9 January 2019 (EST)

Alexa

Looks like the Bolsonaro coverage is bringing in traffic from Brazil. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 21:29, 22 January 2019 (EST)

That's fascinating. Back in 2006 or 2007, in the early days of Conservapedia, a Brazilian newspaper did a very fair article about us.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 21:32, 22 January 2019 (EST)

They have just as bad a problem in Brazil with fake news mainstream media; people are probably starved for information. With the right search terms (for example, names of other prominent Brazilians), it should continue, it could probably be expanded. RobS^{Deep Six the Deep State!} 21:35, 22 January 2019 (EST)

I recommend we start with members of Bolsonaro's cabinet, including nationalist/anti-Marxist foreign minister Ernesto Araujo and justice minister Sergio Moro, and vice president Hamilton Mourão.

We also need a page on the previous president Michel Temer, as well as the conservative Christian party Patriota. --1990'sguy (talk) 00:35, 23 January 2019 (EST)