Talk:It Gets Better
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Merge Request
I prefer that this page grows on. So, my vote is no merge, uno vs. uno. We need a tie breaker Ed.--Jpatt 19:53, 20 January 2012 (EST)
Lost
You're really unpleasant about gay people on this website. Why? Denying my sexuality was causing me severe mental distress. It really does get better coming out and acdcepting the fact that you're gay, actually. Sorry, you're wrong.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neophyte11 (talk)
- Really? Is that so? I believe the Bible says otherwise.--James Wilson 21:38, 12 December 2011 (EST)
- There is medicine to help with your mental distress. You can have feelings for same-sex but you don't have to act on it. We love the sinner and hate the sin. We rather you hear the truth than to sugar coat it. --Jpatt 21:44, 12 December 2011 (EST)
- It is not important if it please you or you you 'think' it is better the wicked way you choose. The important matter is how God sees it and I assure you: God does not approve !--PhilipN 21:46, 12 December 2011 (EST)
- Yep I'm on good medication, good therapy the works, and I'm now in a good, stable, loving relationship. I'm not particularly religious, but have nothing against those who are. I'm in a much better place than I ever was when I tried to deny my sexuality or convince myself it was 'evil' or something to be 'cured'. And I'm not the only one. You are causing significant suffering and distress - why? I've read the Bible, surely the idea of 'sin' is something that is harmful to humanity - my sexuality is in no way harmful to anyone, quite the opposite. Were I to carry on living a lie, trying to suppress the truth, believing that being gay is wrong or abhorrent, that would be harmful - to myself, my friends and my family, as it was. That's true, from human experience. If you've not experienced it, but only read about it or heard about it, what makes you think you're qualified to judge? Why do you sit in judgment? Leave us alone to be happy, we aren't interfereing with you. I'm not mlitant, I don't hate anyone, and yet everywhere come across poison and hatred based on prejudices and misinformation, such as in Rick Perry's latest campaign ad. Why? I'm not harming anyone. Why should I have to live in denial? I am a moral person, loyal, kind and committed, which is more than can be said for many straight people -including many of those looking to run for President of the United States, on both sides of the political spectrum. God, I am sure, would want me first and foremost to be happy and contented, and cause happiness and contentment to those around me. I am now able to do this, thanks to my coming out. You are promoting a negative, isolating, cold view of love and human relationships. Please, stop. How can you be so certain God does not approve? I am not wicked, I didn't choose to be this way. Sometimes I wish I weren't, but I am what I am. End of.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neophyte11 (talk)
- You know, if you want to believe your own delusions, go right ahead. But I know and you know God does not approve of that lifestyle. It explicitly states it in the Old and New Testaments! Sure Jesus makes no specific reference, but He didn't have to. I hope you decide to turn from your wicked sin and find a good doctor. You are in my prayers.--James Wilson 13:21, 13 December 2011 (EST)
- As for Rick Perry's ads, he makes a good point. Why are they allowed to serve in the military when our children can't celebrate Christmas or pray in school? It seems the left will tolerate any lifestyle except Christian ones. They hate Christianity, but they will accept Islam, homosexuality, and anything else. You can be homsexual, but you can't pray in school. Does that seem sound to you?--James Wilson 13:25, 13 December 2011 (EST)
- I've an excellent doctor and have turned from my 'wicked ways' - these being periods of self-harm and aggression caused not by my being gay, but by my repressing it. Now I have come to terms with it and am in a good, stable relationship, with the support of my friends and family, my life is infintitely better. It is sad and distinctly unChristian of you to disparage that and the love and support I have found. I feel very sorry for you that you have such horrible, twisted delusions about gay people and human sexuality. I have nothing to feel ashamed of now, but you clearly do - your hatred and bigotry stem from either a profound bitterness and insecurity, or a cult-like delusional religious Stalinism of skewed biblical literalism and the poison dripped in your ear by false prophets. I pity you. In love.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neophyte11 (talk)
- It appears you did not heed my warning about making productive edits to entries, and you instead decided to waste time by talking uselessly. I hope you see the light of conservative values and recover from the sin you are committing against our Lord. All the best.--James Wilson 16:57, 15 December 2011 (EST)
- I've an excellent doctor and have turned from my 'wicked ways' - these being periods of self-harm and aggression caused not by my being gay, but by my repressing it. Now I have come to terms with it and am in a good, stable relationship, with the support of my friends and family, my life is infintitely better. It is sad and distinctly unChristian of you to disparage that and the love and support I have found. I feel very sorry for you that you have such horrible, twisted delusions about gay people and human sexuality. I have nothing to feel ashamed of now, but you clearly do - your hatred and bigotry stem from either a profound bitterness and insecurity, or a cult-like delusional religious Stalinism of skewed biblical literalism and the poison dripped in your ear by false prophets. I pity you. In love.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neophyte11 (talk)
- Yep I'm on good medication, good therapy the works, and I'm now in a good, stable, loving relationship. I'm not particularly religious, but have nothing against those who are. I'm in a much better place than I ever was when I tried to deny my sexuality or convince myself it was 'evil' or something to be 'cured'. And I'm not the only one. You are causing significant suffering and distress - why? I've read the Bible, surely the idea of 'sin' is something that is harmful to humanity - my sexuality is in no way harmful to anyone, quite the opposite. Were I to carry on living a lie, trying to suppress the truth, believing that being gay is wrong or abhorrent, that would be harmful - to myself, my friends and my family, as it was. That's true, from human experience. If you've not experienced it, but only read about it or heard about it, what makes you think you're qualified to judge? Why do you sit in judgment? Leave us alone to be happy, we aren't interfereing with you. I'm not mlitant, I don't hate anyone, and yet everywhere come across poison and hatred based on prejudices and misinformation, such as in Rick Perry's latest campaign ad. Why? I'm not harming anyone. Why should I have to live in denial? I am a moral person, loyal, kind and committed, which is more than can be said for many straight people -including many of those looking to run for President of the United States, on both sides of the political spectrum. God, I am sure, would want me first and foremost to be happy and contented, and cause happiness and contentment to those around me. I am now able to do this, thanks to my coming out. You are promoting a negative, isolating, cold view of love and human relationships. Please, stop. How can you be so certain God does not approve? I am not wicked, I didn't choose to be this way. Sometimes I wish I weren't, but I am what I am. End of.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neophyte11 (talk)
- It is not important if it please you or you you 'think' it is better the wicked way you choose. The important matter is how God sees it and I assure you: God does not approve !--PhilipN 21:46, 12 December 2011 (EST)
- There is medicine to help with your mental distress. You can have feelings for same-sex but you don't have to act on it. We love the sinner and hate the sin. We rather you hear the truth than to sugar coat it. --Jpatt 21:44, 12 December 2011 (EST)
- Let's refrain from ad-hominem when blocking, JamesWilson. It grows the stereotype that conservatives are all close-minded insulting people. Instead, gently rebuke them. 23:59, 13 February 2012 (EST)
- Apologies, but this particular editor, despite several warnings, continued to talk, talk, talk, without contributing anything of substance (or anything at all for this matter) to this article (or any other article), as can be witnessed here. Thanks.--James Wilson 06:42, 15 February 2012 (EST)
- You provoked him and pressed him on. Had you just left him alone, maybe, just ignored or didn't criticize his original comment, he wouldn't have continued. JLefkowitz 16:37, 17 February 2012 (EST)
- No, I didn't. I was not the only one to rightfully criticize his original comment. Do you agree with it by chance?--James Wilson 17:35, 17 February 2012 (EST)
- I meant "you" in its plural form. And no, I don't agree. JLefkowitz 17:46, 17 February 2012 (EST)
- You provoked him and pressed him on. Had you just left him alone, maybe, just ignored or didn't criticize his original comment, he wouldn't have continued. JLefkowitz 16:37, 17 February 2012 (EST)
- Apologies, but this particular editor, despite several warnings, continued to talk, talk, talk, without contributing anything of substance (or anything at all for this matter) to this article (or any other article), as can be witnessed here. Thanks.--James Wilson 06:42, 15 February 2012 (EST)
Protected?
Why is this protected? I would be interested in adding some more facts(100% referenced) to the article. As it is the article gives very little information on the project itself and just reads like an essay. If you want an essay on why it is wrong write one but an article should actually give information on the project in more than the lead. Ayzmo :) 00:06, 14 February 2012 (EST)
- I will unlock it. Conservative 06:24, 14 February 2012 (EST)
Rewrite
I've been working on a rewrite of the article to make it more encyclopedic. I've kept much of the content but rewrote the intro entirely and added a history section. I wasn't really sure how to work the criticism section. It needs a lot more work before it should be moved over here but I'd really appreciate any comments, suggestions, or criticisms on the talk page. Please don't alter what I've already written. If you put something on the talk page I'll find a way to work it into the article. Ayzmo :) 17:43, 17 February 2012 (EST)
project
It's definitely a "project," or at least more than a slogan. I would suggest moving it back. More information can be found here--CamilleT 16:19, 4 March 2012 (EST)
- It's fine where it is. Why make a big deal if "project" is in the title, anyway?--James Wilson 16:22, 4 March 2012 (EST)
- Another editor had moved it from It Gets Better Project to It Gets Better--CamilleT 16:26, 4 March 2012 (EST)
