Difference between revisions of "Debate:What should be America's policy toward Islam"

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'''None.'''  A democracy should not have any policies regarding particular religions.  In fact the Bill of Rights is quite clear on this.  It should not even be an interesting discussion.  Insert exasperated child-friendly explitive here. --[[User:Palmd001|Palmd001]] 20:48, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
 
'''None.'''  A democracy should not have any policies regarding particular religions.  In fact the Bill of Rights is quite clear on this.  It should not even be an interesting discussion.  Insert exasperated child-friendly explitive here. --[[User:Palmd001|Palmd001]] 20:48, 18 March 2007 (EDT)
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:True of religion, but Islam is more than a religion - it's also a political movement, seeking to impose what it's members see as a perfect system of government and of morality upon the world. That puts it in the same class as, for example, Communism - and America certinly had a policy of opposing that. If hundreds of millions of people are working to destroy America - maybe over a billion, I'm not sure of the ratio of westernised to fundamentalist muslims - then surely there should be a policy opposing their efforts? [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 16:49, 12 December 2008 (EST)
  
 
If people are dumb enough to wanna try sharia law they deserve to get it good and hard. Let the Taliban take their 7th Century travelling road show to as many villages that they want, let all the Emirs go down, sell Israel and India the latest exportable US fighters and medium-range missiles, and most important, ban all travel from muslims countries to the US, no matter how long or short the layover in a third country.  In other words, if their passport is stamped Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Yemen, you name it, they get to turn around.  [[User:Teresita|Teresita]] 22:09, 8 April 2007 (EDT)
 
If people are dumb enough to wanna try sharia law they deserve to get it good and hard. Let the Taliban take their 7th Century travelling road show to as many villages that they want, let all the Emirs go down, sell Israel and India the latest exportable US fighters and medium-range missiles, and most important, ban all travel from muslims countries to the US, no matter how long or short the layover in a third country.  In other words, if their passport is stamped Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Yemen, you name it, they get to turn around.  [[User:Teresita|Teresita]] 22:09, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

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The American policy towards Islam is a very important aspect of our government. The religion of Islam is one of the most, if not the most, violent religion in the world. Therefore it would make sense that our attitude towards it will affect the way we live. I will split the discussion into two groups: what our policy towards Islam should be, and what our policy towards violent/non-violent Muslims should be.

We should treat the Islamic religion exactly as we treat all other religions, with complete acceptance and religion freedom. We would not be “The land of the free” unless we do this. In this way Muslims will not be able to use an argument of acceptance against us. On the other hand, I do not believe we should treat all Muslims in the same way.

Muslims who come to our nation legally and seek a future in America and desire to be a part of society here should be accepted with open arms. The exact opposite is true of violent Muslims who are here to terrorize us. In the same way, Muslims who already live here should be allowed to stay (as long as they got here legally), but any Muslim that threatens or commits an act of violence towards America should immediately be imprisoned or deported. In addition to the person who commits violence, and organization that may have had any sort of connection with this violence should be removed from the nation, with its key members imprisoned.

How is this any different then we treat everyone else? If anyone commits an act of violence towards America we attempt to punish those responsible, whether it be Muslims or any other person/group (like Timothy McVeigh). Grinder 21:04, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

America should be tolerant, but not insecure. American citizens should come first on the government totem pole. This means that any part of our nation that is a threat, which is includes violent Muslims, needs to be taken care of. --SharonS

What about Muslim Americans? Do they come second to "true", Catholic citizens? --Conservativenick
Of course tolerance is needed. But when a theological idea becomes a threat to the foundation of American Society, then something obviously needs to be done. It's stated in the Qu'ran that Muslims shouldn't stop their struggle until all of the world is under Sharia (Islamic Law, the kind where adultery gets you stoned to death and women can't show a square inch of skin). I don't want to live like that, and neither does the 98.4%-98.6% of the US population which isn't Muslim. --Hojimachong 18:57, 11 March 2007 (EDT)
Wow, Hojimachong -- way to misunderstand. Sharia is not actually a part of Islam proper, but rather an interpretation of Islamic law that has been created since Islam's beginning, because of the need to apply Muhammad's injunctions to changing historical contexts. It is not a part of the Quran. Sharia does not, in fact, require the concealment of women; rather, that is a cultural precept held by some Muslim cultures. Muslims do not have to abide by Sharia, as it is merely one interpretation of the religion; many countries choose not to.

Thank you for your racist straw-man fallacy. Next time, do some research before you flame, please. WhatWouldJesusEdit? 17:21, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

And don't some evangelistic Christians also believe that Christianity should spread across the Earth as well? Are there not passages in the Bible that mandate very harsh punishments for actions that would not be considered crimes in the modern world? I know that I don't wish to live under Christian law any more than I wish to live under Muslim law. -Gasmonkey


Simple Answer

None. A democracy should not have any policies regarding particular religions. In fact the Bill of Rights is quite clear on this. It should not even be an interesting discussion. Insert exasperated child-friendly explitive here. --Palmd001 20:48, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

True of religion, but Islam is more than a religion - it's also a political movement, seeking to impose what it's members see as a perfect system of government and of morality upon the world. That puts it in the same class as, for example, Communism - and America certinly had a policy of opposing that. If hundreds of millions of people are working to destroy America - maybe over a billion, I'm not sure of the ratio of westernised to fundamentalist muslims - then surely there should be a policy opposing their efforts? NewCrusader 16:49, 12 December 2008 (EST)

If people are dumb enough to wanna try sharia law they deserve to get it good and hard. Let the Taliban take their 7th Century travelling road show to as many villages that they want, let all the Emirs go down, sell Israel and India the latest exportable US fighters and medium-range missiles, and most important, ban all travel from muslims countries to the US, no matter how long or short the layover in a third country. In other words, if their passport is stamped Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Saudia Arabia, Yemen, you name it, they get to turn around. Teresita 22:09, 8 April 2007 (EDT)

different answer

Well by the Bill of Rights the Government can't interfere with Islam as a religon but that doesnt prevent the average citizen from speaking out against Islam. Now if I could change the Bill Of Rights it sure would NOT include Islam. Call me whatever you want for that, maybe not ALL americans feel that way but a good portion do. GO USA

--Wally 12:25, 26 June 2007 (EDT)


None. A democracy should not have any policies regarding particular religions. previous unsigned comment added by User:BarryGoldwater 19:23, 2 July 2007 (EDT)