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The [[problem of evil]] is a collection of philosophical arguments which claim that the existence of evil in the world contradicts the belief that there exists a God who is both wholly good and omnipotent.<ref>J. L. Mackie, "Evil and Omnipotence," Mind, New Series, Vol. 64, No. 254. (Apr., 1955), pp. 200-212. - [http://www.ditext.com/mackie/evil.html EVIL AND OMNIPOTENCE]</ref>  
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The [[problem of evil]] is a collection of philosophical arguments which claim that the existence of [[evil]] in the world contradicts the belief that there exists a God who is both wholly good and omnipotent.<ref>J. L. Mackie, "Evil and Omnipotence," Mind, New Series, Vol. 64, No. 254. (Apr., 1955), pp. 200-212. - [http://www.ditext.com/mackie/evil.html EVIL AND OMNIPOTENCE]</ref>  
  
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== Defences to the Problem of Evil ==
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== Atheism and the problem of evil ==
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=== Atheism cannot explain the existence of evil  ===
 
[[Image:Ron2.jpg|right|thumbnail|150px|Dr. [[Ron Rhodes]]]]
 
[[Image:Ron2.jpg|right|thumbnail|150px|Dr. [[Ron Rhodes]]]]
  
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Euthyphro Dilemma]]
  
 
[[Theodicy]] is the branch of study in theology and philosophy that defends the goodness of God despite the existence of evil. In traditional Christianity and Judaism the book of [[Job]] is used to explain the existence of evil. In recent times [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologists]] often cite [[Alvin Plantinga]]'s free will defense in regards to the logical problem of evil.<ref>Xenos Christian Fellowship - [http://www.xenos.org/essays/evilpo.htm The Problem of Evil]</ref> The work of [[St. Augustine]] is also cited in regards to theodicy.<ref>Stand to Reason - [http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5124 Augustine on Evil]</ref> Dr. [[Ron Rhodes]] of [[Reasoning from the Scriptures Ministry]] states regarding this issue regarding the existence of evil:  
 
[[Theodicy]] is the branch of study in theology and philosophy that defends the goodness of God despite the existence of evil. In traditional Christianity and Judaism the book of [[Job]] is used to explain the existence of evil. In recent times [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologists]] often cite [[Alvin Plantinga]]'s free will defense in regards to the logical problem of evil.<ref>Xenos Christian Fellowship - [http://www.xenos.org/essays/evilpo.htm The Problem of Evil]</ref> The work of [[St. Augustine]] is also cited in regards to theodicy.<ref>Stand to Reason - [http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=5124 Augustine on Evil]</ref> Dr. [[Ron Rhodes]] of [[Reasoning from the Scriptures Ministry]] states regarding this issue regarding the existence of evil:  
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The infinite reference point for distinguishing good from evil can only be found in the person of God, for God alone can exhaust the definition of "absolutely good." If God does not exist, then there are no moral absolutes by which one has the right to judge something (or someone) as being evil. More specifically, if God does not exist, there is no ultimate basis to judge the crimes of [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]]. Seen in this light, the reality of evil actually requires the existence of God, rather than disproving it.<ref>Ron Rhodes, Reasoning from the Scriptures Ministries - [http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/Atheism.html Strategies for Dialoguing with Atheists]</ref>}}
 
The infinite reference point for distinguishing good from evil can only be found in the person of God, for God alone can exhaust the definition of "absolutely good." If God does not exist, then there are no moral absolutes by which one has the right to judge something (or someone) as being evil. More specifically, if God does not exist, there is no ultimate basis to judge the crimes of [[Adolf Hitler|Hitler]]. Seen in this light, the reality of evil actually requires the existence of God, rather than disproving it.<ref>Ron Rhodes, Reasoning from the Scriptures Ministries - [http://home.earthlink.net/~ronrhodes/Atheism.html Strategies for Dialoguing with Atheists]</ref>}}
  
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=== Atheism cannot solve the problem of evil ===
  
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[[Ken Ammi]] wrote:
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[[Ken Ammi]] declares:
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{{Cquote|Imagine considering the problem of evil and (illogically) concluding that God does not exist—what happens next? Well, you look around the world again and notice that evil still exists and now you do not even have God to blame. Rejecting God does nothing about evil. Thus, atheism does nothing about evil. Of course it does nothing—it cannot do anything and is not supposed to do anything. Atheism is merely an idea and thus, has no volition by which to do anything at all. Indeed, and that is just the point: atheism is an idea, but God is a being who can and does various things about evil: God can condemn it absolutely, God can make provision for redeeming evil, God can abolish evil.
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{{cquote|Imagine considering the problem of evil and (illogically) concluding that God does not exist—what happens next? Well, you look around the world again and notice that evil still exists and now you do not even have God to blame. Rejecting God does nothing about evil. Thus, atheism does nothing about evil. Of course it does nothing—it cannot do anything and is not supposed to do anything. Atheism is merely an idea and thus, has no volition by which to do anything at all. Indeed, and that is just the point: atheism is an idea, but God is a being who can and does various things about evil: God can condemn it absolutely, God can make provision for redeeming evil, God can abolish evil.
  
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Atheism not only does nothing about evil; atheism actually makes evil even worse. Atheism guarantees that evil is for nothing, it has no greater purpose or meaning; it guarantees no redemption of evil.
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[[Atheism]] not only does nothing about evil; atheism actually makes evil even worse. Atheism guarantees that evil is for nothing, it has no greater purpose or meaning; it guarantees no redemption of evil.
  
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However, it is inaccurate to state that atheism guarantees that evil is for nothing and has no greater purpose or meaning. This is because in the absolute materialism that atheism implies, evil is very purposeful in that it benefits the evildoer. The evildoer commits evil acts, and as long as they are not caught they evade the judicial systems of this world and simply get away with it, the victim suffers and may suffer for decades while the evildoer enjoyed committing evil deeds.
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However, it is inaccurate to state that atheism guarantees that evil is for nothing and [[Atheism and meaninglessness|has no greater purpose or meaning]]. This is because in the absolute [[materialism]] that atheism implies, evil is very purposeful in that it benefits the evildoer. The evildoer commits evil acts, and as long as they are not caught they evade the judicial systems of this world and simply get away with it, the victim suffers and may suffer for decades while the evildoer enjoyed committing evil deeds.
  
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Also it is inaccurate to state that atheism does nothing about evil; it actually makes it go away by pretending that it does not exist. A tsunami that drowns thousands of people is not “evil”; it is a large wave. A hurricane that destroys cities and kills people is not “evil”; it is high winds. An animal, whether human or otherwise, that kills another animal is not “evil”; it is acting according to all that there is; its own will. It may be inconvenient, we may not like it, we may attempt to do something about it, against it, but it is not evil; it just is.
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Also it is inaccurate to state that atheism does nothing about evil; it actually makes it go away by [[Atheism and deception|pretending that it does not exist]]. A tsunami that drowns thousands of people is not “evil”; it is a large wave. A hurricane that destroys cities and kills people is not “evil”; it is high winds. An animal, whether human or otherwise, that kills another animal is not “evil”; it is acting according to all that there is; its own will. It may be inconvenient, we may not like it, we may attempt to do something about it, against it, but it is not evil; it just is.
  
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The fact of evil in the world is one of the very best reasons for rejecting atheism.<ref>[http://creation.com/atheism#atheisms-problem-of-evil Atheism by Ken Ammi]</ref>}}
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The fact of evil in the world is one of the very best reasons for rejecting atheism.<ref>[https://creation.com/atheism#atheisms-problem-of-evil Atheism’s “problem of evil”]</ref>}}
  
 
== Natural evil and the fall of man ==
 
== Natural evil and the fall of man ==
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*[https://answersingenesis.org/theory-of-evolution/millions-of-years/the-fall-and-the-problem-of-millions-of-years-of-natural-evil/ The Fall and the Problem of Natural Evil]
 
*[https://answersingenesis.org/theory-of-evolution/millions-of-years/the-fall-and-the-problem-of-millions-of-years-of-natural-evil/ The Fall and the Problem of Natural Evil]
  
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*[http://creation.com/the-fall-a-cosmic-catastrophe The Fall: a cosmic catastrophe] by Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]]
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*[https://creation.com/the-fall-a-cosmic-catastrophe The Fall: a cosmic catastrophe] by Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]]
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*[http://creation.com/creation-suffering-and-the-problem-of-evil Creation, Suffering and the Problem of Evil]
 
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== Atheism and its problem of evil ==
 
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[[File:Safarti3.jpg|alt=evolutionary theory opponent|thumb|200px|left|[[Jonathan Sarfati]] is a scientist at [[Creation Ministries International]]. He co-wrote the book ''Christianity For Skeptics''.<ref>[http://creation.com/skeptics_tour/ Christianity For Skeptics tour]</ref>]]
 
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[[Creation Ministries International]]'s article on atheism declares:
 
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{{cquote|Imagine considering the problem of evil and (illogically) concluding that God does not exist—what happens next? Well, you look around the world again and notice that evil still exists and now you do not even have God to blame. Rejecting God does nothing about evil. Thus, atheism does nothing about evil. Of course it does nothing—it cannot do anything and is not supposed to do anything. Atheism is merely an idea and thus, has no volition by which to do anything at all. Indeed, and that is just the point: atheism is an idea, but God is a being who can and does various things about evil: God can condemn it absolutely, God can make provision for redeeming evil, God can abolish evil.
 
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[[Atheism]] not only does nothing about evil; atheism actually makes evil even worse. Atheism guarantees that evil is for nothing, it has no greater purpose or meaning; it guarantees no redemption of evil.
 
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However, it is inaccurate to state that atheism guarantees that evil is for nothing and [[Atheism and meaninglessness|has no greater purpose or meaning]]. This is because in the absolute materialism that atheism implies, evil is very purposeful in that it benefits the evildoer. The evildoer commits evil acts, and as long as they are not caught they evade the judicial systems of this world and simply get away with it, the victim suffers and may suffer for decades while the evildoer enjoyed committing evil deeds.
 
  
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Also it is inaccurate to state that atheism does nothing about evil; it actually makes it go away by [[Atheism and deception|pretending that it does not exist]]. A tsunami that drowns thousands of people is not “evil”; it is a large wave. A hurricane that destroys cities and kills people is not “evil”; it is high winds. An animal, whether human or otherwise, that kills another animal is not “evil”; it is acting according to all that there is; its own will. It may be inconvenient, we may not like it, we may attempt to do something about it, against it, but it is not evil; it just is.
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*[https://creation.com/creation-suffering-and-the-problem-of-evil Creation, Suffering and the Problem of Evil]
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The fact of evil in the world is one of the very best reasons for rejecting atheism.<ref>[http://creation.com/atheism#atheisms-problem-of-evil Atheism’s “problem of evil”]</ref>}}
 
  
 
== Atheism as a cause of evil ==
 
== Atheism as a cause of evil ==
  
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''See also:'' [[Atheist population and immorality]] and [[Atheism and morality]]
  
 
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|201px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]
 
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|201px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]
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*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]</ref>  For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]).  
 
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]</ref>  For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]).  
  
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The [[Barna Group]] found that atheists and [[agnostics]] in America were more likely, than [[theist]]s in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable:  illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; [[abortion]]; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; [[pornography]] and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in [[homosexuality]]/bisexuality.<ref>http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/58-practical-outcomes-replace-biblical-principles-as-the-moral-standard</ref> Given the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases associated with homosexuality]], the [[Bible|biblical]] prohibition against homosexuality is quite arguably one of the  many examples where the Bible exhibited [http://creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge knowledge that was ahead of its time].  
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The [[Barna Group]] found that atheists and [[agnostics]] in America were more likely, than [[theist]]s in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable:  illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; [[abortion]]; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; [[pornography]] and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in [[homosexuality]]/bisexuality.<ref>http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/58-practical-outcomes-replace-biblical-principles-as-the-moral-standard</ref> Given the [[Homosexuality and health|many diseases associated with homosexuality]], the [[Bible|biblical]] prohibition against homosexuality is quite arguably one of the  many examples where the Bible exhibited [http://creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge knowledge that was ahead of its time].  
  
 
In 2014, a University of Kentucky study was published by Will M. Gervais, which was entitled ''Everything Is Permitted? People Intuitively Judge Immorality as Representative of Atheists'', and the study indicated that "even atheist participants viewed immorality as significantly more representative of at