User talk:Prometheus6289 - Revision history

Dpbsmith at 01:45, February 22, 2007

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Dpbsmith at 01:43, February 22, 2007

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Aschlafly at 01:32, February 22, 2007

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Prometheus6289 at 01:22, February 22, 2007

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Prometheus6289 at 01:20, February 22, 2007

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SharonS at 01:16, February 22, 2007

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Please do not remove relevant and useful information from the pages as you did on [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]]. Thank you. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] 20:16, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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 [[User:Prometheus6289|Prometheus6289]], it depends on what definition of ''deism'' you use. It turns out to be more complicated than I thought. Until a few weeks ago I would have said Franklin was a deist, period, end of story. But one dictionary definition says
 :The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation.[http://www.bartleby.com/61/44/D0104400.html]
-Now, one may argue that that's not the right definition of deism, but it's certainly ''a'' definition, and by that definition Franklin was not a deist in his adult years.  If you read [[Benjamin Franklin#Franklin's "Creed"|Franklin's "Creed"]], he certainly believes in a God who intervenes in the affairs of men ("governs [the Universe] by Providence"). His views sound to me more like those of a modern Unitarian than that particular dictionary definition of deism. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 20:43, 21 February 2007 (EST)
+Now, one may argue that that's not the right definition of deism, but it's certainly ''a'' definition, and by that definition Franklin was not a deist in his adult years.  If you read [[Benjamin Franklin#Franklin's "Creed"|Franklin's "Creed"]], he certainly believes in a God who intervenes in the affairs of men ("governs [the Universe] by Providence"). Franklin ''clearly'' advocated what might be called "generic religion." Nonsectarian public prayer to open official meetings and that sort of thing. His views sound to me more like those of a modern Unitarian than that particular dictionary definition of deism. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 20:43, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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	You did remove factual information from [[Bias in Wikipedia]] about [[Benjamin Franklin]] that is contrary to your view of him. This is a warning. If you remove factual information again in an anti-Christian or biased manner then you will be blocked.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 20:32, 21 February 2007 (EST)		You did remove factual information from [[Bias in Wikipedia]] about [[Benjamin Franklin]] that is contrary to your view of him. This is a warning. If you remove factual information again in an anti-Christian or biased manner then you will be blocked.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 20:32, 21 February 2007 (EST)
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		+	[[User:Prometheus6289\|Prometheus6289]], it depends on what definition of ''deism'' you use. It turns out to be more complicated than I thought. Until a few weeks ago I would have said Franklin was a deist, period, end of story. But one dictionary definition says
		+	:The belief, based solely on reason, in a God who created the universe and then abandoned it, assuming no control over life, exerting no influence on natural phenomena, and giving no supernatural revelation.[http://www.bartleby.com/61/44/D0104400.html]
		+	Now, one may argue that that's not the right definition of deism, but it's certainly ''a'' definition, and by that definition Franklin was not a deist in his adult years. If you read [[Benjamin Franklin#Franklin's "Creed"\|Franklin's "Creed"]], he certainly believes in a God who intervenes in the affairs of men ("governs [the Universe] by Providence"). His views sound to me more like those of a modern Unitarian than that particular dictionary definition of deism. [[User:Dpbsmith\|Dpbsmith]] 20:43, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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	I didn't remove useful information but instead removed fradulent information, and included a citation for the reason for the removal: Ben Franklin was a deist to his death. As it stands, the citation contradicts the information, so I again will remove the offending material but will leave the source in case you need to see why I did so. --[[User:Prometheus6289\|Prometheus6289]] 20:22, 21 February 2007 (EST)		I didn't remove useful information but instead removed fradulent information, and included a citation for the reason for the removal: Ben Franklin was a deist to his death. As it stands, the citation contradicts the information, so I again will remove the offending material but will leave the source in case you need to see why I did so. --[[User:Prometheus6289\|Prometheus6289]] 20:22, 21 February 2007 (EST)
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		+	You did remove factual information from [[Bias in Wikipedia]] about [[Benjamin Franklin]] that is contrary to your view of him. This is a warning. If you remove factual information again in an anti-Christian or biased manner then you will be blocked.--[[User:Aschlafly\|Aschlafly]] 20:32, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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	Please do not remove relevant and useful information from the pages as you did on [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]]. Thank you. ~ [[User:SharonS\|SharonS]] 20:16, 21 February 2007 (EST)		Please do not remove relevant and useful information from the pages as you did on [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]]. Thank you. ~ [[User:SharonS\|SharonS]] 20:16, 21 February 2007 (EST)

−	I didn't remove useful information but instead removed fradulent information, and included a citation for the reason for the removal: Ben Franklin was a deist to his death. As it stands, the citation contradicts the information, so I again will remove the offending material but will leave the source in case you need to see why I did so.	+	I didn't remove useful information but instead removed fradulent information, and included a citation for the reason for the removal: Ben Franklin was a deist to his death. As it stands, the citation contradicts the information, so I again will remove the offending material but will leave the source in case you need to see why I did so. --[[User:Prometheus6289\|Prometheus6289]] 20:22, 21 February 2007 (EST)

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	Please do not remove relevant and useful information from the pages as you did on [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]]. Thank you. ~ [[User:SharonS\|SharonS]] 20:16, 21 February 2007 (EST)		Please do not remove relevant and useful information from the pages as you did on [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]]. Thank you. ~ [[User:SharonS\|SharonS]] 20:16, 21 February 2007 (EST)
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		+	I didn't remove useful information but instead removed fradulent information, and included a citation for the reason for the removal: Ben Franklin was a deist to his death. As it stands, the citation contradicts the information, so I again will remove the offending material but will leave the source in case you need to see why I did so.