Talk:Politically correct

2008-06-11T03:47:52Z

ZEFLAP7: I coined the term. Oops.

Hmmm. One hears so much about the "mainstream" these days. It would seem to me that, if conservatism is ''really'' based on unchanging, immutable principles, then a true conservative should not give a d*** about whether he is in the mainstream or not, and should not invoke the mainstream (besides, since some liberal views, such as the call for universal health care, are now supported by a vast majority, couldn't they then just as readily lay claim to the "mainstream" as well?? [[User:Boethius|Boethius]]

:And, not for nothing, but a source wouldn't be uncalled for somewhere in there. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 11:11, 28 March 2007 (EDT)

::Well there are a handful of sources now, but I can't write this thing by myself. [[User:Everwill|Everwill]] 15:02, 6 April 2007 (EDT)

==Origins of the term==

I remember seeing an old campus [[comic strip]] with "Political Correctnessman" as a caped [[superhero]].

I also remember reading a European immigrant's writings about Nazi and Communist ideas of [[socially correct]] or [[ideologically correct]] ideas and language. It had more to do with content than wording, IIRC. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:32, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

I think I coined the term to describe the orthodoxy that I noticed while attending the U.W. Madison. It was not meant to be complimentary and I would just as soon have the word back and out of use.

== Sources ==

''There are many outrageous examples of what is now considered objectionable in modern text books''
The source is to a description of a book written by [[Diane Ravitch]] and all I could find is ''A typical publisher’s guideline advises that...'' There is no mention of which publisher(s) or which textbooks. That is perhaps quoting opinion as fact and is likely in breach of [[Conservapedia:Commandments]] 2, footnote 1. The book itself perhaps does mention which publisher(s) or textbooks. The book and page number should be given as the source. As it stands at the moment accuracy is questionable.
[[User:WhatIsG0ing0n|WhatIsG0ing0n]] 13:03, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

:If the statement is not backed by the source, please correct or remove the statement. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:09, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

::The source is where the statement comes from. That is not being questioned. I am questioning the accuracy of the source. I am unsure if that breaks any [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], I know much higher standards apply here than at wikipedia, consequently I am very reluctant to edit for fear of braking any rules myself.
::[[User:WhatIsG0ing0n|WhatIsG0ing0n]] 13:16, 9 April 2007 (EDT)

As both a children's librarian and a published writer of children's book, I can vouch that the publisher's forbidden list is purest BS. Harry Potter alone breaks all those commandments. [[User:Czolgolz|Czolgolz]] 00:24, 24 April 2007 (EDT)
:In that case, please edit it. It seems to be a weak flailing, the "anti-PC" perspective is well represented and described without it. Perhaps an example of ''genuine'' PC writing for children ''might'' have a place here (you know, the "Jane Has Two Mommies" type of thing), althoug it must be presented as a writing movement rather than a publishing dictum. [[User:Human|Human]] 01:19, 24 April 2007 (EDT)

::The 'source' is a review of a book which appears written with the express intent of creating controversy, and with no context given even for its place in the book. Im going to take it out, and give the rest a general tidyup. - [[User:Suricou|Suricou]]

==Liberal this, Liberal that==

Oh just grow up Andy. Seriously, you're past the point of pathetic at this stage. (I'm referring to your recent editing of this article)

Do you have a girlfriend, out of interest? [[User:Smith090|Smith090]] 19:28, 6 September 2007 (EDT)

==Humorous early example==

This example predates the term, but it is may be worthy of inclusion. In 1957, on the ''Stan Freburg Radio Show'', they did a routine called [http://www.themadmusicarchive.com/song_details.aspx?SongID=3473 "Elderly Man River"]in which a network censor, complete with buzzer, interrupts a performance of "Old Man River", by adjusting the language and the grammer so as not to offend, "more elderly people" and to "Keep in mind the tiny tots" ending in a hilarious PC version of a classic song. [[User:Boomcoach|Boomcoach]] 10:46, 12 September 2007 (EDT)

==Replacing Muslim with Jewish holiday in the example section==
I've done so for two reasons:
* Eid does not refer to a particular holiday. This Arabic word actually means "Holiday" (or properly "festivity" or "event").
* The Muslim calendar is lunar, as opposed to the Christian solar and Jewish hybrid (lunar with a solar leap-month). This causes the seasons in which their holidays appear to change over time.
:While Kwanza is a recent invention, it maybe a troublesome argument to claim either Eid or Hanukkah are part of a politically correct movement. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 15:16, 6 December 2007 (EST)

Especially given the fact that Eid does not necessarily overlap with Christmas as Chanukkah does.[[User:Claude|Claude]] 15:21, 6 December 2007 (EST)

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