Talk:New Zealand

2007-03-15T05:07:14Z

Thomarse:

Very well written. The only part I would possibly dispute is your statement that the Maori Party are in opposition to the government. While this would certainly be true on issues such as the seabed and foreshore legislation, it is a bit of a stretch to say they are in opposition. They have voted with the government on sevveral issues, and it is important to bear in mind that the Maori electorate traditionally votes on a slightly more left of centre basis. Despite this minor detail, I thought it was a well written and well balanced article. - Tom.

Talk:Adolf Hitler

2007-03-15T04:58:21Z

Thomarse:

I don't think "liberal" is a word most people would use in describing Adolph Hitler. --[[User:Dave3172|Dave3172]] 00:12, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:Going by Conservapedia's definition of "[[liberal]]", for example the points about gun control, same-sex marriage, amnesty for illegal aliens, foreign treaties, increased power for labor unions, etc., I think we can all agree that Adolf Hitler was undeniabley liberal in every way that matters.

:--[[User:Tooner440|Tooner440]] 01:09, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:: Gun control is a phenomena of any dictatorship, regardless of political bent. Treaties have been signed by leaders on the left and right alike; they're not a "liberal" invention. And I'd hardly call beginning a continent-wide war and the attempted extermination of an entire people "liberal" qualities. The word is pointless here.--[[User:Dave3172|Dave3172]] 01:15, 8 March 2007 (EST)

:::Its certainly not pointless! Just because Hiltler was evil that means he can't be called liberal? He above all other examples shows what liberalism takem to its extreme can do!!! -- [[User:Earth6000|Earth6000]] 23:45, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

:: Hitler had a liberal stance on same sex marriage? And amnesty for illegal aliens? Goodness. I'm more galled, though, by the "in every way that matters". Sure, mass genocide isn't a terribly liberal idea, but hey, look at the big picture! The man banned handguns! [[User:Rjohnson|Rjohnson]] 07:59, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

Also is there any research that shows Hiltler was possessed by satan or some sort of demon? I want to include that possibility in the article but I don't have a good source yet. Can anyone help? -- [[User:Earth6000|Earth6000]] 23:48, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

How can there be research showing Hitler was possessed by Satan or a "demon"? Regardless of whether this "research" exists, by Commandment 1 everything here has to be "true or verifiable". The existance of God, Satan or "demons" is faith-based, i.e. it is not possible to prove by a scientific method and has no place in an encyclopedia. This is not to dispute the veracity of these claims, I just do not see how something can be "verifiable" if we are talking about a matter of faith. You can believe it and it may well be true but to include it here is not readdressing Wikipedia-based bias, it's just plain wrong. --[[User:dropkickmejesus|dropkickmejesus]] 11:10, 13 March 2007 (GMT)

: Adolf Hitler was not a liberal, not even by the list positions that define [[Liberal|liberal]]. He neuterd gays, killed trade unionists, gave mothers who had more than 4, 6 and 8 kids a medal of honour (rank 3 to 1), implemented a maximun of 10% for female students at universities, madeit illegal for women to pursue a professorship, he killed and starved foreigners, broke disarments treaties and increased military spending. This just show that you don't have to be liberal to be evil. -- [[User:Order|Order]] 13 March 2007, 22:22 (AEST)

A liberal? I doubt it. A totalitarian fascist dictator would be a more accurate description. A left wing or right wing view of his politics is irrelevant to the fact that he was responsible for the deaths of millions of people - something which surely all people from all sides of the political spectrum find horrifying.

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