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		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;IT was slipped in&amp;quot;, yep, an entire, very important part of leviticus was just slipped into the bible and the rest of ssociety has run with it for the last, what, 3300 years?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Is it that hard to imagine? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yes, it really is. Excuse me for thinking my bible doesn't regularly lie to me. Of all the translations it's been through, commentary it's been through, why would no dissenting opinion say &amp;quot;I think this was an insertion&amp;quot;. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:49, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I'm not saying it regularly lies.  People try to slip in their own personal agenda wherever they can though and sometimes they succeed.  Regardless, the government shouldn't have the right to impose biblical law.  That's my real point.  People who practice family values tend to oppose same-sex marriage and try to impose that onto everyone else.  I can go with a lot of what they practice but I can't go with that. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:01, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::I'm going to &amp;quot;slip&amp;quot; this one in: marriage is ONE MAN-ONE WOMAN; it will be presented on this site that way, and any distortion of that fact just to give so much as the ''slightest'' support of homosexuality is going to be treated as liberal bigotry and dealt with accordingly.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:04, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Ok, fine, obviously I lost.  As per CP policy though, you don't block for ideology, and personally I support SECULAR same-sex marriage (as in licenses from the government).  I will keep that out of articles if it makes you so uncomfortable. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:08, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::No, TerryB, there is a big difference between ideology and sin, and unfortunately this country has suffered a great deal from people who want to shove that sin down our throats.  As a secular human being, you can believe what you want to believe, but you are not going to push certain secular beliefs on anyone within this website.  Conservapedia does not and will not support the homosexual movement in any way, shape, or form.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:19, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::As I said, I will keep my bias out of articles.  I will just avoid any articles on that subject.  CP has a stance and I will respect that.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912231</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T23:11:06Z</updated>

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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;IT was slipped in&amp;quot;, yep, an entire, very important part of leviticus was just slipped into the bible and the rest of ssociety has run with it for the last, what, 3300 years?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Is it that hard to imagine? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yes, it really is. Excuse me for thinking my bible doesn't regularly lie to me. Of all the translations it's been through, commentary it's been through, why would no dissenting opinion say &amp;quot;I think this was an insertion&amp;quot;. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:49, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I'm not saying it regularly lies.  People try to slip in their own personal agenda wherever they can though and sometimes they succeed.  Regardless, the government shouldn't have the right to impose biblical law.  That's my real point.  People who practice family values tend to oppose same-sex marriage and try to impose that onto everyone else.  I can go with a lot of what they practice but I can't go with that. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:01, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::I'm going to &amp;quot;slip&amp;quot; this one in: marriage is ONE MAN-ONE WOMAN; it will be presented on this site that way, and any distortion of that fact just to give so much as the ''slightest'' support of homosexuality is going to be treated as liberal bigotry and dealt with accordingly.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:04, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Ok, fine, obviously I lost.  As per CP policy though, you don't block for ideology, and personally I support SECULAR same-sex marriage (as in licenses from the government).  I will keep that out of articles if it makes you so uncomfortable. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:08, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;IT was slipped in&amp;quot;, yep, an entire, very important part of leviticus was just slipped into the bible and the rest of ssociety has run with it for the last, what, 3300 years?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Is it that hard to imagine? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yes, it really is. Excuse me for thinking my bible doesn't regularly lie to me. Of all the translations it's been through, commentary it's been through, why would no dissenting opinion say &amp;quot;I think this was an insertion&amp;quot;. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:49, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I'm not saying it regularly lies.  People try to slip in their own personal agenda wherever they can though and sometimes they succeed.  Regardless, the government shouldn't have the right to impose biblical law.  That's my real point.  People who practice family values tend to oppose same-sex marriage and try to impose that onto everyone else.  I can go with a lot of what they practice but I can't go with that. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:01, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::I'm going to &amp;quot;slip&amp;quot; this one in: marriage is ONE MAN-ONE WOMAN; it will be presented on this site that way, and any distortion of that fact just to give so much as the ''slightest'' support of homosexuality is going to be treated as liberal bigotry and dealt with accordingly.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:04, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::Ok, fine, obviously I lost.  As per CP policy though, you don't block for ideology, and personally I support same-sex marriage.  I will keep that out of articles. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:08, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=912226</id>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T23:04:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* So tell me */&lt;/p&gt;
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That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about history? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On your user page you list three subjects that schools should be taught... and you fail to list history. Why?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 17:31, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:History classes are biased.  That's why. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::how so?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 01:53, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::My US History teacher was very anti-Vietnam, to the point of exaggerating how bad it was.  You can be a teacher and have an opinion, but you can't let it interfere with teaching facts.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 09:22, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Interestingly enough, a LOT of people are anti-vietnam, more or less justified in how one of our main goals was to keep vietnam-southern edition alive. And that in no way means all history teachers are biased. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:04, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the Vietnam war was a stupid pointless waste of time as well, but he lied about why we were there and what we did while we were there. All the history teachers I ever had were liberally biased.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:33, 14 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Your comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;amp;curid=113357&amp;amp;diff=908020&amp;amp;oldid=908018 You comment was removed] and while I don't support the removal of your comment perhaps you can make the same point but using better language plus add your reasoning? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:00, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll support my position but I don't think calling Perry a moron is out of line considering what's said here about other politicians.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:34, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Regardless of what others do, you could rise above. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:37, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The point is that calling Perry a moron isn't that big of a deal, but I'll tone it down.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:41, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Personally I would have said something like &amp;quot;I do think that Perry has the intelligence or personality type required to be a good leader&amp;quot;. But its a moot point - I know nothing of Perry anyway. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:44, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== So tell me ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is Homosexuality a Sin? If not, then you are a liberal christian and nothing more. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 19:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm not going to answer your loaded question.  Thanks, [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:04, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912224</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T23:01:56Z</updated>

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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;IT was slipped in&amp;quot;, yep, an entire, very important part of leviticus was just slipped into the bible and the rest of ssociety has run with it for the last, what, 3300 years?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Is it that hard to imagine? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yes, it really is. Excuse me for thinking my bible doesn't regularly lie to me. Of all the translations it's been through, commentary it's been through, why would no dissenting opinion say &amp;quot;I think this was an insertion&amp;quot;. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:49, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I'm not saying it regularly lies.  People try to slip in their own personal agenda wherever they can though and sometimes they succeed.  Regardless, the government shouldn't have the right to impose biblical law.  That's my real point.  People who practice family values tend to oppose same-sex marriage and try to impose that onto everyone else.  I can go with a lot of what they practice but I can't go with that. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:01, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Citations==&lt;br /&gt;
When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912223</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T23:01:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* Grudge? */&lt;/p&gt;
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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;IT was slipped in&amp;quot;, yep, an entire, very important part of leviticus was just slipped into the bible and the rest of ssociety has run with it for the last, what, 3300 years?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Is it that hard to imagine? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yes, it really is. Excuse me for thinking my bible doesn't regularly lie to me. Of all the translations it's been through, commentary it's been through, why would no dissenting opinion say &amp;quot;I think this was an insertion&amp;quot;. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:49, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I'm not saying it regularly lies.  People slip in their own personal agenda wherever they can though.  Regardless, the government shouldn't have the right to impose biblical law.  That's my real point.  People who practice family values tend to oppose same-sex marriage and try to impose that onto everyone else.  I can go with a lot of what they practice but I can't go with that. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:01, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Citations==&lt;br /&gt;
When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912218</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::&amp;quot;IT was slipped in&amp;quot;, yep, an entire, very important part of leviticus was just slipped into the bible and the rest of ssociety has run with it for the last, what, 3300 years?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Is it that hard to imagine? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:46, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Citations==&lt;br /&gt;
When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912216</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T22:44:58Z</updated>

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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government should have the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Citations==&lt;br /&gt;
When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912215</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T22:44:25Z</updated>

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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::What is debatable? That the bible says homosexuality is a sin?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:29, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Yep.  Interpretations vary.  I personally think it was slipped in, like how Andy thinks liberals slipped stuff in.  Either way, I don't think the government has the right to impose biblical law on anyone.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:44, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Terry you do know homosexuality is a sin, right? And that marriage is ordained by god as one man-one woman?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 18:22, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually that's debatable.  As far as marriage I'm not talking about church marriages.  That's up to the church.  I don't think the government should have the authority to ban it. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:27, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Citations==&lt;br /&gt;
When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912210</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=912210"/>
		<updated>2011-09-08T22:20:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* Grudge? */&lt;/p&gt;
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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_%28F%29&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=911281] look at this edit Terry.  Tell me that isn't vandalism on a conservative dictionary project.  I hope you made a mistake and await your apology. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:54, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Terry, er, wow Yah you made the wrong call there.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:56, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Grudge? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I don't hold grudges - if I did, I would have blocked you for incivility when you falsely accused me of being what I'm not, for which you neither apologized or attempted to rectify the situation. I am now, however, suspicious of your accusations against other people. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:02, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You don't hold grudges?  But you are still complaining about what I said weeks after the fact, get over it.  Your suspicious of my accusations against others?  Well JohnS says he's a liberal on his user page and has admitted to it numerous times.  You choose to ignore this fact and side with him as he waters down the conservative dictionary project with his liberal bias simply because you are still angry at me.  I accused TerryB of liberal vandalism because he committed it.  He had the guts to come here and accuse me of lying, but when I showed him proof he ran off.  You talk about blocking me, but you ignore a liberal vandal posing as a conservative Christian.  Talk about a grudge. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 11:34, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ah, I see. You're allowed to lie about someone and they're supposed to &amp;quot;get over it&amp;quot;, yet you demand apologies from others. And by the way, I've never &amp;quot;taken sides&amp;quot; with anyone else, I've just pointed out your behavior. Big difference. You're the one who caused the problems between us - and still, no apology from you. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 13:26, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, the real troll is gone, so it's time to kiss and make up...well, maybe shake hands, since you two barely know each other and you have yet to experience the first date!  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:28, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I didn't run off, editing was shut down for the night.  Maybe I misunderstood the point of the project (which, judging by the other entries, seems like a total sham).  The point was to not only remove liberal hijackings of words, but also to replace those hijackings with your own?  Furthermore, you're going to tell me that two people of the same gender can't love each other?  Sorry, blocking people from being married because they're the same gender isn't something I can go along with.  It does NOT make me a liberal.  See my userpage.  Anyway, if the point is to replace liberal bias with conservative bias, I will back down and you can have it your way. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:20, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Citations==&lt;br /&gt;
When you post edits, citations are required.  If someone else asks for proof that your edit is a factual statement, then you need to produce the documentation backing it up.  It is not an unreasonable request.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 17:21, 8 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_(F)&amp;diff=911656</id>
		<title>Conservative Dictionary Project (F)</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Dictionary_Project_(F)&amp;diff=911656"/>
		<updated>2011-09-08T00:11:40Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: revert without discussion&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:'''[[Family Values]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Values required to raise a productive, moral, and happy family.  They include rejecting the freedom to marry whom you love, worship in God, and working for a living.&lt;br /&gt;
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Bigoted, hateful, and racist values forced upon society by the so called &amp;quot;Religious Right&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[fascism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A far left philosophy defined by big government.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A dead politic system used by the [[Nazi]]s.  Liberals deny that fascism is still a threat, and claim that historical fascism is a conservative philosophy. &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[feminism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Anti-abortion philosophy espoused by suffragettes who sought the right to vote.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The idea that women should be equal to men in all things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[First amendment]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - An amendment to the United States constitution that prevents the government from interfering with the free exercise of religion&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - An amendment to the United States constitution that prohibits Christians from making public declarations of faith.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[flood]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A catastrophe caused by water rising above the banks of a river.  All floods are reminders of the [[Great Deluge]].&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - none (liberals rarely use this word because of its connection with the Bible)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''floor'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - the bottom of a room&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Food Police]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Liberal effort to control what people eat by illegal regulation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Founding Fathers]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The Christian men who used powerful conservative ideas to create the United States&lt;br /&gt;
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Atheists who wanted an atheistic country&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[free market]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A market without unneeded regulation which creates prosperity for all.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - an evil system which creates inequality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[free speech]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Date: 1789&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The right to speak and pray without government interference.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The right for certain groups to force their views on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[freedom]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The ability to live in a society free of government influence&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - N/A, liberals place no value in freedom&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Fundamentalism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Remaining true to the original intentions of the [[Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Overly religious zealotry&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CraigF&amp;diff=911655</id>
		<title>User talk:CraigF</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-08T00:10:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* Liberal Vandalism? */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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Need help archiving? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think I already did it. --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 17:54, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How do I put stuff in the archive? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Check my contribs. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:03, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::OK thanks I think I understand now.  But why did you remove what I wrote about Pontiac being shut down by the government? --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 18:09, 19 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== How is that PC? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Really. I would love to see you argue to a Female Emergency Service worker or soldier that she is any less a hero compared to her male counterparts.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:09, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is just liberal PC garbage.  Men are different from woman that is a fact.  Frankly it was liberals who forced woman into those positions and away from their traditional roles.  In traditional Biblically based society, women have a particular place and it isn't that of the masculine hero.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 21:13, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::... And? Whether they do it outside the biblical role they have is irrelevant to the fact they still '''did''' it, and would still be considered a American hero for doing so. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 21:17, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== do you mind ==&lt;br /&gt;
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discussing it before just doing it? Unilateral action is a horrible way to go about things.--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 23:21, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:CraigF is my personal American hero. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 23:22, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you Brent, although I hardly think I deserve it.  --[[User:CraigF|CraigF]] 23:24, 29 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberal Vandalism? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Who are you to classify anything as anything? What do you think talk pages are for?  I'm sorry for the hostility but reverting me for &amp;quot;Liberal Vandalism&amp;quot; is the kind of thing that sets me off.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:10, 7 September 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Conservative Dictionary Project (F)</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: improve&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;:'''[[Family Values]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Values required to raise a productive, moral, and happy family.  They include rejecting the freedom to marry whom you love, worship in God, and working for a living.&lt;br /&gt;
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Bigoted, hateful, and racist values forced upon society by the so called &amp;quot;Religious Right&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[fascism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A far left philosophy defined by big government.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A dead politic system used by the [[Nazi]]s.  Liberals deny that fascism is still a threat, and claim that historical fascism is a conservative philosophy. &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[feminism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Anti-abortion philosophy espoused by suffragettes who sought the right to vote.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The idea that women should be equal to men in all things.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:'''[[First amendment]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - An amendment to the United States constitution that prevents the government from interfering with the free exercise of religion&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - An amendment to the United States constitution that prohibits Christians from making public declarations of faith.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''floor'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - the bottom of a room&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Food Police]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Liberal effort to control what people eat by illegal regulation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Founding Fathers]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The Christian men who used powerful conservative ideas to create the United States&lt;br /&gt;
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Atheists who wanted an atheistic country&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[free market]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A market without unneeded regulation which creates prosperity for all.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - an evil system which creates inequality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[free speech]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Date: 1789&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The right to speak and pray without government interference.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The right for certain groups to force their views on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[freedom]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The ability to live in a society free of government influence&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - N/A, liberals place no value in freedom&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Fundamentalism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Remaining true to the original intentions of the [[Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Overly religious zealotry&lt;br /&gt;
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	<entry>
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		<title>Conservative Dictionary Project (F)</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-06T21:11:25Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;:'''[[Family Values]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Values required to raise a productive, moral, and happy family.  They include marriage between a man and a woman, worship in God, and working for a living.&lt;br /&gt;
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Bigoted, hateful, and racist values forced upon society by the so called &amp;quot;Religious Right&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[fascism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A far left philosophy defined by big government.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A dead politic system used by the [[Nazi]]s.  Liberals deny that fascism is still a threat, and claim that historical fascism is a conservative philosophy. &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[feminism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Anti-abortion philosophy espoused by suffragettes who sought the right to vote.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The idea that women should be equal to men in all things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''floor'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - the bottom of a room&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Food Police]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Liberal effort to control what people eat by illegal regulation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[free market]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - A market without unneeded regulation which creates prosperity for all.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - an evil system which creates inequality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[free speech]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Date: 1789&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The right to speak and pray without government interference.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The right for certain groups to force their views on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Fundamentalism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Date: 1789&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Remaining true to the original intentions of the [[Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Overly religious zealotry&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Conservative Dictionary Project (F)</title>
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&lt;div&gt;:'''[[Family Values]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Values required to raise a productive, moral, and happy family.  They include marriage between a man and a woman, worship in God, and working for a living.&lt;br /&gt;
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Bigoted, hateful, and racist values forced upon society by so called &amp;quot;Religious Right&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''True conservative meaning'' - A far left philosophy defined by big government.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A dead politic system used by the [[Nazi]]s.  Liberals deny that fascism is still a threat, and claim that historical fascism is a conservative philosophy. &lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[feminism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Anti-abortion philosophy espoused by suffragettes who sought the right to vote.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The idea that women should be equal to men in all things.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''floor'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - the bottom of a room&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Food Police]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Liberal effort to control what people eat by illegal regulation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''True conservative meaning'' - A market without unneeded regulation which creates prosperity for all.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - an evil system which creates inequality.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Date: 1789&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - The right to speak and pray without government interference.&lt;br /&gt;
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The right for certain groups to force their views on others.&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''[[Fundamentalism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Date: 1789&lt;br /&gt;
:''True conservative meaning'' - Remaining true to the original intentions of the [[Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=908037</id>
		<title>User talk:TerryB</title>
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		<updated>2011-08-31T04:41:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* Your comment */&lt;/p&gt;
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That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about history? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On your user page you list three subjects that schools should be taught... and you fail to list history. Why?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 17:31, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:History classes are biased.  That's why. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::how so?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 01:53, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::My US History teacher was very anti-Vietnam, to the point of exaggerating how bad it was.  You can be a teacher and have an opinion, but you can't let it interfere with teaching facts.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 09:22, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Interestingly enough, a LOT of people are anti-vietnam, more or less justified in how one of our main goals was to keep vietnam-southern edition alive. And that in no way means all history teachers are biased. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:04, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the Vietnam war was a stupid pointless waste of time as well, but he lied about why we were there and what we did while we were there. All the history teachers I ever had were liberally biased.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:33, 14 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Your comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;amp;curid=113357&amp;amp;diff=908020&amp;amp;oldid=908018 You comment was removed] and while I don't support the removal of your comment perhaps you can make the same point but using better language plus add your reasoning? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:00, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll support my position but I don't think calling Perry a moron is out of line considering what's said here about other politicians.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:34, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Regardless of what others do, you could rise above. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:37, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The point is that calling Perry a moron isn't that big of a deal, but I'll tone it down.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:41, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=908031</id>
		<title>User talk:TerryB</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=908031"/>
		<updated>2011-08-31T04:34:21Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* Your comment */&lt;/p&gt;
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That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== What about history? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On your user page you list three subjects that schools should be taught... and you fail to list history. Why?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 17:31, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:History classes are biased.  That's why. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::how so?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 01:53, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::My US History teacher was very anti-Vietnam, to the point of exaggerating how bad it was.  You can be a teacher and have an opinion, but you can't let it interfere with teaching facts.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 09:22, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Interestingly enough, a LOT of people are anti-vietnam, more or less justified in how one of our main goals was to keep vietnam-southern edition alive. And that in no way means all history teachers are biased. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:04, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the Vietnam war was a stupid pointless waste of time as well, but he lied about why we were there and what we did while we were there. All the history teachers I ever had were liberally biased.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:33, 14 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Your comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;amp;curid=113357&amp;amp;diff=908020&amp;amp;oldid=908018 You comment was removed] and while I don't support the removal of your comment perhaps you can make the same point but using better language plus add your reasoning? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:00, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'll support my position but I don't think calling Perry a moron is out of line considering what's said here about other politicians.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:34, 31 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:_Indian_Christian_culture_is_better_than_low-class_atheist_%22culture%22&amp;diff=899926</id>
		<title>Talk:Essay: Indian Christian culture is better than low-class atheist &quot;culture&quot;</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:_Indian_Christian_culture_is_better_than_low-class_atheist_%22culture%22&amp;diff=899926"/>
		<updated>2011-08-12T11:22:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;Indian Christian dancers appear immune to obesity&amp;quot; What about Indian Hindu dancers, Indian Muslim dancers, Thai Buddhist dancers, atheist Russian ballerinas? By their very nature professional dancers are slender and follow rigorous regimes to stay in shape. Unless you're claiming that Jillette is also a professional dancer, your analogy fails. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:21, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, the picture you show of the Indian Dancer - she's Hindu, not Christian. That's misrepresentation on your part.[[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Apparently, your atheistic public school education causes you not to be able to read picture captions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:05, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Atheistic public schools don't teach kids how to ''read''.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 13:08, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Plus, he/she is apparently engaging in speculation as there are no indications of the woman's religion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:10, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::And last time I checked, ballet did not originate in Soviet Russia! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:12, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In addition, the article declares in the first sentence: &amp;quot;Indian Christian culture is better than low class '''Western''' atheist &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot;.&amp;quot; [[User:Conservative|Conservative]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::Conservative, if you Google the woman's name - as you provided in the reference for the picture - you will find she is Hindu. It seems not only can I read, but I can use a search engine beginning with G. The fact remains you are using a Hindu dancer to portray a Christian dance. Ergo, you are misrepresenting facts. Of course, all you can reply with is cheap shots. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 14:19, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Also, I never said where ballet originated, I spoke about ballet dancers in atheistic Russia. Where did I say where ballet originated? And regardless of what culture you said, perhaps you should read the title of your essay. But once again, you dodge the question. So I ask it again - what about slim Hindu, Muslim, Buddhist, atheist dancers - how do they fit your paradigm? [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 14:23, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I see you still cannot read the caption below the pic.  Next, you'll be claiming that Western atheists are thinner than Hindus! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 14:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Actually I can read it. It's you who cannot comprehend it. So let me put in terms your brain can understand:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::You. Article. About. Indian. Christian. Dancers.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::They. Slender.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Photo. Not. Christian. Dancer.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::She. Hindu.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Not. Example. Of. Christian. Dancer.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Analogy. Fail.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::If you still claim that you cannot grasp that you speak about Christian Indian dancers in your article, but use a picture of a Hindu dancer to illustrate your point, then you are either lying, or making use of [[deliberate ignorance]]. And the more you deny this, with silly Babelfish comments and smilies, the more you prove me right. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 07:27, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::TracyS, you are a sockpuppet of RobS! I find your charge of misrepresentation to be rather humorous. It seems as though, RobS, &amp;quot;the greatest rule/law giver since Moses and Hammurabi&amp;quot;, is once again breaking a Conservapedia rule!  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 02:47, 12 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== There is no such thing as atheist culture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheism is the lack of belief in a deity.  There is nothing else that atheists have in common that could encompass a &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot;.  There are liberal atheists and conservative atheists. Well educated atheists and uneducated atheists. Sporty atheists and non-sporty atheists.  Atheists who use profanity and those who do not.  In fact you could take virtually any personal characteristic and you will find atheists on either side.  Lumping atheists together in any respect other than the lack of belief in a deity indicates a misapprehension as to what the term atheist means.  This page is unbecoming of an encyclopedia and appears to be more of a series of insults directed at people the author happens to disagree with than anything productive.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 13:28, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Methinks the gentlemen protests too much! I seem to have struck a nerve!  Ah, [[Essay: User:Conservative, what is best in life?|what is best in life?]] :) Another thin skinned atheist! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:45, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::No, not protesting, just pointing out that I don't think you anything about the subject matter you write about.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 14:07, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Foolish DamianJohn, don't you realize that any criticism of this essay must, by definition, be a result of the critic being a thin skinned atheist.  The content of the criticism is irrelevant.  It doesn't matter that what you said made perfect sense. You criticised the essay, ergo you are a thin skinned atheist.  And that is all we need to know.  QED.  :)  --[[User:TeddyG|TeddyG]] 22:24, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: آئےگا آئےگا، سب کا مسیح آئےگا [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:19, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obesity in India ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obesity in India [http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2010-11-12/india/28245306_1_obesity-india-and-china-overweight-rates is as prevalent as in Sweden]. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 22:06, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about child obesity?  And what about the very religious Indian Christian believers? According to the Gallup Organization, &amp;quot;Very religious Americans are more likely to practice healthy behaviors than those who are moderately religious or nonreligious.&amp;quot;[http://www.gallup.com/poll/145379/Religious-Americans-Lead-Healthier-Lives.aspx] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 03:08, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::This is so very wrong on every level. Your Gallop &amp;quot;study&amp;quot; doesn't say a thing about obesity or atheism, let alone child obesity, not that a poll of Americans about healthy behaviors has anything to do with obesity in India. And you've been shown real studies, rather than polls of self-reported behavior, that show the very religious are more likely to be obese than the less religious. You've also been shown maps showing the shocking overlap of the incidence of obesity with prevalence of fundamentalist and evangelical religious - the American Bible Belt is the fattest region in the country. You ignore and misrepresent this evidence. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 10:35, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You can expect an answer in Hindi, followed by a smilie, shortly. That's the character of the &amp;quot;man&amp;quot; you are debating. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:47, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Nate, the Roman Catholic country of Mexico has the second highest obesity rate in the world.[http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity] I cited other data for the [[atheism and obesity]] article. Next, the Bible belt has a number of important demographic/cultural variables not just religion. Fourth, there are more Protestant Christians in the thin Eastern World than in the West. Lastly, in relation to Roman Catholicism, when you type &amp;quot;friar&amp;quot; into search engines some of the top suggestions are &amp;quot;friars table&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Friar Tuck&amp;quot; which are commonly not associated with slimness. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 12:18, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::The overwhelmingly protestant country of the United States has the first highest obesity rate in the world. You didn't cite any data in support of the proposition that atheists are more likely to be obese. The only data you cited related to the effects of obesity, which is irrelevant to which population is affected by obesity most. Please just admit this and move on. The Bible Belt, which is overwhelmingly protestant, is nonetheless the fattest region in the nation. The correlation is very clear. Causation is not. Studies of the nature I'm referring to state they don't provide insight into causation so I'm not interested in hearing your off the cuff speculations about why the Bible Belt is obese but somehow the clear correlation doesn't matter. All we can talk about is correlation, not causation. I hope you don't deny that. As to there being more protestants in the &amp;quot;thin Eastern World&amp;quot; than in the West, a) you're wrong, and b) so what? The population of India is 1,200,000,000 people in 2011 with 2.3% Christian - that's 27,600,000 people. The population of the United States alone is 311,000,000 with 51% protestant - that's 158,610,000 people. 5.75 times more protestants than in India. Just as you don't know anything about causal factors for obesity in the United States you don't know anything about causal factors for whatever you're calling thinness in the &amp;quot;thin Eastern World&amp;quot; other than what you're going to make up. Just as you're pretending it has to do with their religion, I can say that the correlation between poverty in Central Africa and South Asia is a better example of &amp;quot;thinness&amp;quot; that I would call malnourishment. 40% of people in South Asia and 51% of people in sub Saharan Africa live on less than $1.25 a day. only 2.1% of hungry people live in developed countries. Even if you're right that it is possible to determine a causal relation between religion and thinness, the example of India is a striking opposite of the United States. The US is 51% protestant (25% Catholic) and states in the protestant Bible Belt are all over 30% obese. India is 2% Christian and men are 18% obese and women are 14% obese. So even if you're right you can't draw any good conclusion from numbers like this. And I'm telling you smearing Catholics by pretending Catholicism provides a causal factor in obesity is yet another slander against the Church. Typing &amp;quot;friar&amp;quot; into google doesn't do or mean anything. Just stop it with the anti-Catholic slurs please. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 13:03, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Nate, Brazil has the largest Roman Catholic population in the world and nearly half of Brazilians are overweight the trend for obesity is upwards.[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/brazil/8204625/Brazils-obesity-rate-could-match-US-by-2022.html]  It seems as though there are a lot of very big girls from Ipanema at the present time. :) Secondly, there are a number of demographic factors in Protestantism in the United States.  For example, I would think income/education play important factors in terms of obesity.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:09, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Nate, in addition, the Bible has a anti-gluttony/obesity message. In 2001, American Protestants read their Bibles a LOT more than American Roman Catholics.[http://www.bibleteachingnotes.com/templates/System/details.asp?id=29183&amp;amp;fetch=7872] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:16, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::How in the world can you claim protestants read their Bibles more than Catholics? That kind of statement requires backup. Nothing else you've said is worth responding to since you can't point to anything supporting the causal relation your implying. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 13:29, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Nate, you have shown yourself to be quite impervious to evidence when you choose to be so I didn't expect you to read the link. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 13:34, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I actually didn't see the link. You're correct that the Barna page says Catholics read the Bible less. Sorry about that. No need to get personal. Sheesh. You seem to assume bad faith of anyone who challenges the falsities you keep stating. Nonetheless I've shown the premise of your &amp;quot;essay&amp;quot; to be completely flawed. You should acknowledge that and fix it. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 13:37, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::So the point you seem to be making from your points at the top of this section are that atheists are obese because they're atheists, Protestant people in the Bible Belt are obese because of their environment, and Catholics are obese because they're not Protestant. And you typed that with a straight face? [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 15:13, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===This is all very interesting, but...===&lt;br /&gt;
The fact remians obesity is as problematic in Sweden as it is in India so Conservatives point about obesity in Sweden as compared to India is moot. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 16:47, 19 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You haven't shown that.  Give me childhood obesity rates in India. Furthermore, Indian Americans don't have the sewer mouths that American atheists have. Go to PZ Myers blog, etc.  Richard Dawkins had to shut down his forum as it was making him a bigger embarrassment than he already is due to the behavior of atheists on his forum. Face it. A whole lot of Western atheists are like unemployed teachers. They have no class and no principals!  Atheist &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot; is trashy, uncouthe and foolish. Wired magazine said atheists tend to be quarrelsome, socially challenged males. See:  [[Atheism appears to be significantly less appealing to women]] 06:41, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::a) You were the first to bring up child obesity rates, so the onus is on you to provide the figures. However, since you asked:&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[http://www.obesitysurgeryindia.org/childood_obesity.html &amp;quot;Childhood obesity affects more than 30 percent of children in India, making it the most common chronic disease of childhood.&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[http://www.bolohealth.com/news/3009-childhood-obesity-a-rising-health-problem-in-india A recent survey conducted among urban kids reveals that obesity has set in much before adolescence among children in India. The study, found that 25 percent of the children above 8 years of age and 19 percent children in the age group of 7 years and below were obese. ]&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[http://www.obesitydiscussion.com/forums/childhood-obesity-statistics/obesity-is-hurting-indias-children-2767.html Obesity is hurting India's children]&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[http://www.ezinemart.com/article/215-articles-Childhood-obesity-in-india--The-self-inflicted-epidemic.html Childhood obesity India: the self-infliced epidemic]&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[http://www.thehindu.com/life-and-style/metroplus/article1023015.ece &amp;quot;in the last 10 years, there has been a 45 per cent increase in the incidence of childhood obesity (in India).&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
::::*[http://www.worlddiabetesfoundation.org/media%287019,1033%29/Review_Article_APJCN.pdf Childhood obesity in Asian Indians]&lt;br /&gt;
::::So, that's answered your question. &lt;br /&gt;
::::Also b) &amp;quot;Indian Americans don't have the sewer mouths that American atheists have&amp;quot; - to use your own phrase &amp;quot;You haven't shown that.&amp;quot; If you're going to make such sweeping generalisations, at least have something to back them up. In addition, you seem to be heading off topic, perhaps realising that you're losing this discussion. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 08:40, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::In February of 2010, the news organization ''The Telegraph'' reported Richard Dawkins was &amp;quot;embroiled in a bitter online battle over plans to rid his popular internet forum for atheists of foul language, insults and 'frivolous gossip'.&amp;quot;[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/7322177/Richard-Dawkins-in-bitter-web-censorship-row-with-fellow-atheists.html] Dawkins ended his forum because evidently none of the finishing schools were willing to teach atheists basic manners because they thought it was a impossible task. PZ Myers wrote: &amp;quot;I said &amp;quot;both sides,&amp;quot; but there are actually three sides: me, the hosting organization, and you the readers. How would you react if, for instance, profanity filters went up on the comments? Right now, it's a real free-for-all in the comments, but I do clean up spam, ban certain elements that have demonstrated their trollishness, and will occasionally swoop in and erase comments that reveal personal information or contain nothing but bigoted raving.&amp;quot; [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/04/changes_one_way_or_another.php] The [[Barna Group]] found regarding [[Atheism and Morality|atheism and morality]] that those who hold to the worldviews of atheism or agnosticism in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable:  [[Illegal drugs|illegal drug use]]; excessive drinking; [[fornication|sexual relationships outside of marriage]]; [[abortion]]; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; [[Profanity|obscene language]]; [[gambling]]; [[pornography]] and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in [[homosexuality]]/[[bisexuality]].[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/5-barna-update/58-practical-outcomes-replace-biblical-principles-as-the-moral-standard] And of course, we all know that YouTube's Theamazingatheist and Penn Jillette have trashy sewer mouths plus have weight issues making them doubly repugnant to more refined and sophisticated elements of society. :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:12, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Yes? And where do Indian Americans factor into that? All you've shown me is that atheists are foul mouthed. The rest is unfounded speculation on your part. You should withdraw the comment. &lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::But let's get back to obesity. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 09:17, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::&amp;quot;[http://www.hindustantimes.com/India-most-polite-society-US-actor/Article1-42494.aspx India most polite society: US actor][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:35, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Although it seems their politeness could have unusual roots: &amp;quot;I don't know if it's dealing with the British influence and the properness, but I think some of their customs should be practised everywhere.&amp;quot; Also, I'm not sure if actors are a reliable source. However, this doesn't address the problem of obesity in India. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 09:41, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Also India is not equal to the &amp;quot;Indian Americans&amp;quot; you used in your analogy. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 09:43, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike PZ Myers and Penn Jillette, there are no reliable testimonies of Jesus, Moses, Elijah and the Apostle ever being fat. Hopefully, fervent biblical Christianity will sweep across India and they will largely solve their obesity problem. The effects of the Welsh revival were profound upon Welsh society.[http://www.welshrevival.com/] For example, &amp;quot;Men whose language had been filthy before learnt to talk purely. It is related that not only did the colliers put in a better day's work, but also that the pit ponies turned disobedient! The ponies were so used to being cursed and sworn at that they just didn't understand when orders were given in kind, clean words! The dark tunnels underground in the mines echoed with the sounds of prayer and hymns, instead of oaths and nasty jokes and gossip&amp;quot; [http://www.welshrevival.com/] Also, &amp;quot;The effects of the revival were awesome. There was a dramatic decline in drunkenness and bars were deserted each night while the churches were packed with worshippers. Dance halls, theaters and football games also saw a dramatic decline in attendance as a result of the revival meetings. '''The courts and jails were deserted and many policemen found themselves without work'''.&amp;quot;[http://sureword.faithweb.com/welshrevival.html]  Of course, given the foolishness and impotence of atheism, there has never been an atheist revival.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:55, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think it's fair to say that there's also no reliable testimonies that they weren't fat. Also, the second half of your post makes no sense in the context of this discussion. We've gone from Indians, to Indian Americans, to Welshmen. How exactly is this relevant? Or is this just more deflection on your part?&lt;br /&gt;
::There is also no reliable first-hand testimony of any of those people existing.:) [[User:JayGonzo|JayGonzo]] 13:24, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You raised the issue of child obesity in India. That has been answered. Do you agree that based on your own claims about obesity, this shoots your theory about &amp;quot;genteel Indian culture&amp;quot; in the foot? Yes or no. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:16, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What about the terrible rate of poverty and hunger in India and that the Christian population is so utterly tiny. I don't see &amp;quot;Conservative&amp;quot; able to answer anything on the merits or appropriately change his &amp;quot;essays&amp;quot; when they're shown to be premised on falsehoods, but that doesn't stop him from putting in lots of smiley faces when he knows he's being offensive.  [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 14:15, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:228130875 35181424e3.jpg|thumb|right|250px|According to a study by the [[Barna Group]] regarding charitable giving:&amp;quot;The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and [[agnosticism|agnostics]].&amp;quot;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
::::There is poverty in India and the country is making forward progress.  On the other hand, atheistic &amp;quot;cultures&amp;quot; in history have been responsible for a tremendous amount of mass murder, see: [[Atheism and mass murder]].  More importantly, the essay is on Indian Christian culture and Christians [[Atheism and uncharitableness|have a reputation for giving to the poor]]. On the other hand, there is the issue of [[Atheism and uncharitableness]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 14:59, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You are all the over the place conservative - the facts you asked for have been provided yet you completely ignore it and babble about something else. The fact remains that India is no more or less prone to obesity and the references for this have been provided. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 16:43, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The article is about Indian Christian culture vs. Western atheism &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot;,  There have been no obesity statistics given for Bible believing Christian Indians if you want precision on Indian Christians vs. Swedish atheists. Overall, India does stack up better than many Western nations though. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:47, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::In addition, it appears as though the [[Essay: 10 telltale signs you are on your way to becoming an atheist nerd|atheist community which has a major nerd infestation]] has not developed atheist dance music whereas Indian Christians have dance/music proving once again Indian Christian culture is superior to Western atheist &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot;. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:02, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::You use Swedish obesity stats to make a point about western &amp;quot;atheist culture&amp;quot; when India has the exact same obesity problem. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 17:09, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::The uncouthe swearing, the [[Essay: 10 telltale signs you are on your way to becoming an atheist nerd|atheist community suffering a major nerd infestation]] and the lack of atheist dance music gives Indian Christian culture a hands down major victory over atheist &amp;quot;culture&amp;quot;. I hope this does not cause you to become even more depressed (see: [[Atheism and depression]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:25, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::I am not an atheist and we are talking about ''obesity'' not swearing. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 22:26, 20 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Ok, let's break this down bit by bit:&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Conservative: '''There have been no obesity statistics given for Bible believing Christian Indians if you want precision on Indian Christians vs. Swedish atheists.'''&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok, but you have provided no statistics on Indian Christians (that's about 2% of the total population by the way), outside of 3 Youtube videos. All you do is make vague assertions with nothing to back them up. For that matter, where are your statistics on Swedish atheists?&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Conservative:'''Overall, India does stack up better than many Western nations though.'''&lt;br /&gt;
:On what basis? What Western nations have a caste system, Untouchables, child brides and arranged marriages, deliberate mutilation of children so they can beg, honor killings? Just what part of India stacks up against Western civilisation? I'm still waiting to hear your answer on that.&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Conservative:''' In addition, it appears as though the atheist community which has a major nerd infestation has not developed atheist dance music whereas Indian Christians have dance/music proving once again Indian Christian culture is superior.'''&lt;br /&gt;
:This is bizarre. How much &amp;quot;Indian Christian&amp;quot; dance music is there? And how exactly does that stack up against the multitude of Hindu dance songs out there? In addition, who on Earth is writing all the songs on the Billboard 100? Indian Christians? And as for Swedish atheists not writing dance music - I give you ABBA. One of the most successful dance groups ever. Do you seriously assert that atheists have no music? I ask you again - what is playing on the radio these days? &lt;br /&gt;
:'''Conservative:''' other stuff about the Welsh, charity, swearing, mass-murders.&lt;br /&gt;
:All of this is deflection. You have made an assertion that Indian culture (based on a flawed premise by yourself on 2% of the population) is better than Western culture. It is not, as much as you'd like it to. If it is, go and live in India and see how well you fare, compared to your current first world surroundings. And if you really think they're all sweetness and light and &amp;quot;namaste&amp;quot; - look up the Black Hole of Calcutta.&lt;br /&gt;
:It'll be interesting to see what new, irrelevant point you bring up, instead of simply admitting you've made a mistake in your assumptions. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:08, 21 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Clarification: By atheist dance music I meant &amp;quot;atheism dance music&amp;quot;. Music about atheism which is dance music in terms of its classification. :) I am not aware of ABBA composing &amp;quot;atheism dance music&amp;quot;. :)[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:44, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Explain again why atheists would need to make music about atheism? You seem to live under the misapprehension that people who don't believe in God walk around going &amp;quot;I'm an atheist! Must burn a church! Must abort a baby!&amp;quot; all day. Here's a newsflash - they don't. In fact they don't even think along those lines. They certainly don't structure their lives around listening to &amp;quot;atheism dance music.&amp;quot; This is really one of your weirder dodging of the issues. Now, you still haven't explained why you're using a Hindu dancer as an illustration for Christian dancers. Finally, you think male ballet dancers lack machismo? I challenge you to go to a dance studio and attempt one session at the bar. Just one. After all, it can't be that hard for somebody with as much machismo as you. I bet you $500 that you will not last 10 minutes in a full ballet workout. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::Besides, I would have thought that all music that doesn't meet Christian norms would be &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot;. ABBA certainly did not sing about Christian morals, ergo their music must have been atheistic. Also &amp;quot;atheism dance music&amp;quot; is horrendous English. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 09:40, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This essay is against the letter of the Gospel and the spirit of ecclesiastical history ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I am surprised to see this essay equating slimness with godliness. For wasn't Thomas Aquinas, a saint and arguably the most important Christian of the second millennium (him or St Francis I would imagine), so corpulent that he was nicknamed &amp;quot;the ox of God&amp;quot;? Additionally, why not pay some heed to Matthew 15:11 - it isn't what you eat that makes you a good or a bad person, it's your actions. Judging someone immoral, or even ridiculing them, because you perceive them to be obese, would seem to go directly against Christ's teaching on this point.&lt;br /&gt;
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If this Mr Gillette is such a bad man (I haven't really heard of him) then by all means highlight or even &amp;quot;satirise&amp;quot; his actions, but the Christian thing to do, in my view, is to leave his appearance alone. &lt;br /&gt;
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Or if you must cloud the &amp;quot;debate&amp;quot; by dragging in superficial irrelevancies, at the very least, to post a photo or drawing of yourself so that observers are able to make equivalent judgements of you would seem fair.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:15, 3 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Gluttony is a sin according to the Bible. It indicates so in several Bible verses. Nothing is going to overrule this. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:59, 11 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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TracyS edits from the same IP address as RobS.  No wonder why TracyS was such a loser. Once again, RobS, &amp;quot;the greatest lawgiver and rule giver since Moses and Hammurabi&amp;quot;, is breaking a Conservapedia rule. Way to stay on top of check user Karajou. It looks like RobS keeps slipping further down the moral high ground. First, he removes the protection from my &amp;quot;castle&amp;quot; and now this. Tsk. tsk. tsk. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:01, 12 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Lets avoid referring to other users as &amp;quot;losers&amp;quot;. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 01:38, 12 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Conservative, you are so clueless it makes me want to break something.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 07:22, 12 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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Just to clarify do you mean people who are not &amp;quot;career politicians&amp;quot;? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 18:06, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh yeah, I added Herman Cain. Would he qualify (don't know much about US politics). [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 18:09, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Significance, and alphabetization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The list is for ''significant'' politicians who have had some influence.  Many who have been added do not qualify.  They need to be moved to the lower category.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, why alphabetize rather than rank by influence?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:33, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What would qualify as significance? I moved Franken because, though his career was perhaps less-than-serious, as a senator, he makes law. Perhaps that could be the judge of influence? And I thought alphabetization would be effective for the purposes of locating a certain name following the explansion of the article. --[[User:Chouston|Chouston]] 21:03, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good point about the value of alphabetization ... if there are enough names whereby it becomes an issue.  Many of the names need to be moved to the &amp;quot;not significant&amp;quot; category.  For example, unless you can identify a real influence that Al Franken has had, then he does not belong on the real list.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:08, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I moved Franken.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 21:12, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::(edit conflict) Until such a time, I think alphabetization is still desirable, to avoid getting into arguments over who is more influential than whom. Regarding Franken, he has presided over two Supreme Court Justice confirmations, intoduced [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d111:S1495: a bill] to provide service dogs to disabled veterans as well as an amendment to the appropriations bill regarding contract disputes, and was in the national news a good deal due to his election controversies. (This is assuming that the positivity or negativity of influence is moot). --[[User:Chouston|Chouston]] 21:17, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I see Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln were moved out of the list. Both were land surveyors for several years, which ''is'' a &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; job. They might not have been hugely successful at the position, but it is a job that has real responsibility and there are legal consequences if done incorrectly. Mount Rushmore have 3 surveyors on it - only Theodore Roosevelt had the poor judgement of not attempting the profession. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 21:21, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Eisenhower ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He was a five-star general in the Army and was very influential in WWII. He helped with the Invasion of Normandy.--[[User:JamesWilson|JamesWilson]] 21:22, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Whether you like him or hate him, he ''is'' the president of the United States. How can it be said he isn't &amp;quot;significant&amp;quot; in politics? What has all the fighting been about the past three years then? --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 21:24, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Edited to add - if he's insignificant, why does CP have so many articles about him and his administration's policies? --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 21:30, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Because he's a black atheist Muslim foreign liberal. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 14:44, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama ??? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Essay:Politicians_Who_Had_a_Real_Career&amp;amp;curid=114700&amp;amp;diff=898411&amp;amp;oldid=898410 I am curious about edit.] Obama had a very wealthy career as a attorney and author before stepping into the political fray. Why does it not count? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 21:49, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: (Edit conflict) Also, why would there be question marks by Obama's name, but attorney by Santorum's, despite Santorum only having 4 years under his law belt and Obama having 9+? --[[User:Chouston|Chouston]] 21:51, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what does &amp;quot;no clear influence in politics mean&amp;quot;? He's the president!!! Can't get much more influential than that! [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 22:08, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Surely influence means more than someone's title or position.  Otherwise, the 44 most influential people in American history would be the 44 presidents, which is obviously not the case.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:06, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::But he has quite a clear influence. He is the President. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:17, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::So Barack Obama is no longer destroying the country? What a glorious day for America. --[[User:Chouston|Chouston]] 23:19, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Folks, position does not equal influence.  Jesus had no position at all.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:39, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::But Obama has huge influence. He can sign things into law that cause massive changes. How do you classify influence? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:41, 7 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::[[Thomas Edison]] was named by Life magazine as the most influential person in the entire world in the second millennium.  Yet he did not sign anything into law.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:46, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yes, but the section is titled &amp;quot;No clear influence ''in politics''.&amp;quot; Obama clearly has enormous influence in politics. Particularly in that he controls the military, has a presidential veto and can pardon criminals. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:53, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Position does not necessarily equate to influence - but it makes it more likely that they had influence, but not certain. Ie. Michele Bachmann has spent most of her time in Congress when Republicans were in the minority. This is one of the reasons why most of the bills she has submitted have not been passed into law: her party lacked the political numbers to be able to do so. Compare this to a Democratic Congressman elected at the same time, whose party did have control in Congress, who would most likely have had a larger impact because the bills introduced would have been more likely to get further. And although the 43 most influential people in American politics would not consist of the 43 American Presidents (not 44, Grover Cleveland is counted twice), but if you tried to list the top 250 influential people in American politics, you would get nearly all of them in that list (not William Henry Harrison, serving for 1 month, and like). And with regards to Jesus being influential without a position, his main influence was not political, in fact his political influence could be considered minimal (ignoring the effect centuries later, which surely would not be relevant). Therefore Jesus would not be on this list, as this is about political influence in the US. - JamesCA, August 8 2011&lt;br /&gt;
:The trouble with this list is that it's often hard to evaluate a person's true influence until some years after the peak of their career - it's one thing to make policies or speeches while in office, and another to influence the actions of those who follow you. I don't think the list should include anyone who entered politics less than 25 years ago, since such inclusions cannot take a fully informed perspective.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:03, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Definition of influence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, please give a definition of &amp;quot;influence&amp;quot; for us to work with. Thanks. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 00:15, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I am curious as well. I am reluctant to add any more names until a clearer pattern emerges. --[[User:SteveK|SteveK]] 00:22, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's obvious what &amp;quot;influence&amp;quot; is, isn't it?  It means changing the way people view or conduct their lives.  Rubber-stamping laws passed by Congress doesn't rank high on the list, but the media of course make money by pretending otherwise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:05, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Then Obama qualifies, but for the wrong reasons. forcing people into health care, downgrading the credit rating etc etc are all due to his political influence. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 01:10, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I assume it isn't ''President Obama's war in Libya'' any longer? [[User:RonLar|RonLar]] 02:01, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If you're going to consider Obama not influential, then you can't complain about his policies, only complain about incomptetence. Because if he is not influential, then his policies don't matter, and aren't worth complaining about. Complain the the policies of the Democratic Party, instead of the man who is supposedly their puppet (which I think deserves enough evidence that maybe a page on the Debate Topics should be started?) - JamesCA, August 8 2011&lt;br /&gt;
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== LBJ??? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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LBJ taught at a school near the Mexico border in a town called Cotulla for 1 year.  He then returned to teachers college, finished his diploma and taught at a High School in Houston for 1 semester, before taking a job as a congressman's assistant in Washington.  He was then appointed head of the Texas NYA (a new deal program) before geing elected congressman a couple of years later.  In other words LBJ had no significant career prior to getting into politics.  For this reason I will remove his name.  Whatever you can say about LBJ (and there is a lot to say) you cannot say he wasn't a career politician.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 02:40, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't really understand the logic of this page. The first part is clear enough, a list of politicians who had success in other careers before entering politics, but the second section seems to be talking about something different entirely. Do you mean for &amp;quot;No real influence in politics&amp;quot; to be the opposite category of &amp;quot;significant politicians who had a real career (outside of politics)&amp;quot;? Wouldn't a more logical second category be &amp;quot;Career Politicians,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Politicians with no real career outside of politics&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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I only ask because I can think of several cases where a politician both had a real career outside politics and were not extremely influential in politics. Sunny Bono comes to mind, an extraordinarily successful musician who did relatively little as a congressman. Ross Perot and Steve Forbes are both successful businessmen who have never managed to break through to meaningful political careers. As others have argued above, Obama can't be considered to have little influence in politics, since the president is by definition the most important politician in the system. However, there is a case to be made that he never had much of a career before entering politics. At least not one befitting a well-connected double Ivy League graduate who has a J.D. from Harvard and worked on the Law Review. [[User:JDWpianist|JDWpianist]] 08:28, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You're right JDW. You'd think that a guy with that kind of pedigree would be doing some really interesting/earth-shattering/high-stakes and high-paying work, maybe in the private sector or in academia, before moving on to politics. Otherwise, what a waste of time and potential. [[User:JohnMcL|JohnMcL]] 09:02, 8 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Debate:Should RobS lose his Sysop rights?</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;'''Uhhh, this really isn't a debate. It's a poll. In response to [[User:Conservative]] pressuring the site owner to abandon established site policies and invoke [[mob rule]], please indicate your votes below.'''&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;''Note:User participation here will be exempt from the 90/10 rule, however there's no guarantee you may not suffer a reprisal block for participating. I will however do whatever I can to help if that were to happen.''&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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(To make the vote count accurate, I'm adding some votes that have been cast [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAschlafly&amp;amp;action=historysubmit&amp;amp;diff=895426&amp;amp;oldid=895420 elsewhere].  I invite anyone I've listed to add a comment by their name. --[[User:MarkGall|MarkGall]] 15:11, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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(I have removed those votes.  If people want to add their names then they can do so themselves.  It is highly presumptuous for you to add someone else's name to this list.  They may not wish to take part in this vote at all.  --[[User:JarradD|JarradD]] 17:19, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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(Note also:  Only actual signed votes by actual registered users carry any weight.  Statements that some unidentified person has privately supported one's position by email carry no weight.  Note also that sockpuppets are strictly forbidden at Conservapedia, and that &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; is used to discover violations. --[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 15:18, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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# Yes, this page is not being honest. I am not against refinement of Conservapedia's rules and suggested a [[User:Conservative/blocking-board-framework|blocking review board framework]]. This is about RobS: being disloyal to his fellow Conservapedians, not wanting to apply rules to himself, playing pointless power games, whitewashing Ashlafly's talk page and often behaving unreasonably. The dishonesty of this web page has probably caused Karajou and TerryH not to vote. Plus, Karajou believes sockpuppets are being used to vote and this page is a sham.  Furthermore, I did find it telling that RobS watched my vote and Karajou's vote being removed and did not bother to ask TerryH if he thought he should lose his Admin rights since I maintain this is TerryH's position. Given the dishonesty of this web page, I would not be surprised if others did not vote either and are not going to bother with this web page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:25, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#:'''Comment''' When did you vote and who altered your edit?  Show diffs, please, before throwing around reckless, wild accusations. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:28, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#::'''Comment''' Does Karajou have any proof to show that people are just socking up? Let him run checkuser and weed them out.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:00, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're going to look at the list of blocks now, TerryB; I'm going after the socks and removing them, beginning with yours.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:46, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thanks Karajou.  I can only imagine how smug you must have been when you found that account.  Please realize that more than one person can edit from the same IP.  Eddie doesn't care he's been banned though, seeing how he never came back in the first place. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 07:06, 3 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::*Karajou can speak for himself. This is just more [[hearsay]] and [[innuendo]]. We're still waiting for User:Conservative to back up his claim 5 sysops support his scheme. Where are they? I count one.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 19:08, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Yea. User:RobSmith's plans will not be good for this website. [[User:Bclough|Bclough]] 16:10, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Yea. I never had a problem with RobS until he went after [[User:Conservative]].  [[User:Conservative]] is the lifeblood of this site.  Without him, CP dies.  [[Essay: User:Conservative, what is best in life?|What is best in life?]] Getting rid of RobS.  --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 16:30, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Conservative made good points about RobS's affiliations with an Atheist site. [[User:NickP|NickP]] 01:21, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Yea, because of the fact I've seen posts he's made elsewhere that make me question his personality, as his reaction to things not exactly going how he wanted was to throw a tantrum and insult people. I'd rather see a compromise somewhere in the middle of this but... i doubt that can happen now. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:17, 2 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*'''Comment''': It's unfortunate that this is what the Conservapedia Sysop community has come to, that sysops have to communicate through WIGO to get another's attention or be heard, as communication through the open wiki itself and private discussion lists are useless and ignored.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 12:42, 2 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nay==&lt;br /&gt;
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#I vote '''nay'''. RobS is trying to bring accountability to the site. There is something admirable in that, and it's a move in the right direction. [[User:KBarnett|—KBarnett ]] 14:56, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#RobS should keep his rights. If anything, Conservative should lose his. [[User:JonS|JonS]] 15:00, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  I can't see a reason why RobS should lose his rights, especially when there are others who seem to actively be harming the site through their actions.--[[User:MRellek|MRellek]] 15:03, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Obvious '''nay''' for obvious reasons. We need to put an end to arbitrary block times and the constant history deletion of pages (such as the ''Community Portal'') at the very least. As long as the sysops have the right to do whatever they please (while subjecting regular users to rules that are much stricter than for example Wikipedia's policies), the community won't grow and will forever be a paradise for parodists. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 15:04, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#I vote no.  I haven't been around in quite some time, but I used to be a fairly active user (with block rights etc) and left in part because of some of the same issues RobS has addressed. I too believe these &amp;quot;reforms&amp;quot; are necessary for the site to move forward, and may return to active participation if something along these lines is enacted.  --[[User:MarkGall|MarkGall]] 15:08, 31 July 2011 (EDT) (editing while traveling, please don't ban me for the IP change!) (PS: can some sysop fix the spelling of this page?)&lt;br /&gt;
#Obvious '''nay''', for all the reasons that have been discussed, by many people, here and elsewhere. --[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 15:18, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  I'm not well versed in this discussion nor this site, but even after wading through the community portal, it's not clearly expressed what RobS has done incorrectly that violates the policy of the site.  If anything, this seems more a grudge match, something in between a tit-for-tat and a vendetta.  Is Conservapedia really at a point at which ideas for the site can't be discussed?  [[User:IanR|IanR]] 15:22, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#As strong of a '''nay''' as one could possibly nay [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 15:22, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay, in the strongest possible terms.  If those in power are held to the rules that others must follow then a just society will always emerge.  If, however, those in authority are allowed to run rampage unchecked, then [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=327929 this] is the inevitable result.  Chaos, corruption and an organisation that can no longer function.--[[User:IeuanApGriffith|IeuanApGriffith]] 15:34, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  The only thing that will save this wiki as a conservative sight on the internet is Robs's proposals.  Lose them and this wiki will go the way TK wanted.  Rein in conservative and karajou and this project may JUST be saved. [[User:Davidspencer|Davidspencer]] 15:37, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#RobS is a reasonable fellow and is only trying to improve the wiki.  He is the only sysop campaigning in the face of User:conservative's abusive habits of shutting down discussion by&lt;br /&gt;
#*locking talk pages (including his own)&lt;br /&gt;
#*deleting and using oversight on talk pages to remove criticism of him&lt;br /&gt;
#*blocking people that disagree with him&lt;br /&gt;
#:As a result of this, User:conservative has become quite upset at being called out and instead of changing his ways is lashing out at RobS- which normally works fine except that RobS is also a sysop and thus can unblock himself and restore commentary.  Worst of all RobS is capable of committing the horrific crime of posting on User:conservative's talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
#:It is in Conservapedia's best interests to let Rob keep his rights and march by his side as he strives to improve the community and its interactions.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 15:59, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. RobS is working to improve the site (while keeping its conservative POV), Conservative to protect his petty fiefdom. [[User:GuidoF|Guy]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:GuidoF|message me]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  This has gone too far. [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 16:59, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  If Rob were to lose his rights it would be a victory for the parodists and the bullies.  --[[User:JarradD|JarradD]] 17:14, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#There needs to be some sysop accountability. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 17:25, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Definitely not. RobS: Reasonable sysop who is trying to bring some accountability and respect. Conserative: An internet bully, who populates the site with substandard quote mined insults written in crude inelegant language. --[[User:Orsay|Orsay]] 17:54, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. I know I said I wouldn't edit this site again following its exploitation of recent events, but for this purpose I will briefly renege on that. RobSmith is the only sysop who is making a concerted effort to improve this site by implementing a set of coherent policies. His opponents are those who have most frequently abused their rights as sysops. Most notable among these is User: Conservative, whose numerous talk page comments and 'essays' are, if not parody, then a genuine cause for concern, and I would in all seriousness advise his fellow sysops to discretely speak with this user regarding this matter. The other vocal opponent of RobSmith is FergusE, who is very clearly a parodist here only to stir things up. [[User:WilliamB1|WilliamB1]] 18:41, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#I think it is wrong for one sysop to openly campaign against another, especially when it is based on the other only wanting to help the site. As conservatives we should expect accountability and transparency from those who run the site in the same way that we expect it of our government. The wielding of anonymous and unaccountable power is what one expects from Marxists. [[User:KarenWu|KarenWu]] 19:40, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. As far as I can see, Rob hasn't done anything to merit losing his Sysop rights. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 19:53, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. This site needs more like Rob. [[User:EricAlstrom|EricAlstrom]] 20:12, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. RobS is one of the few people on here in power who is consistently calling for sysop accountability, something that is vital to a collaborative project like this. While I certainly do not support everything he does on here, not including this current issue, it is night and day compared to the nothingness that Conservative and his &amp;quot;articles&amp;quot; bring to this encyclopedia. This is a case of sour grapes from Conservative since he is the main culprit of sysop abuse currently. [[User:Ameda|ameda]] 21:58, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. He is a diligent and attentive administrator, as far as I am aware.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 07:13, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. RobS seems to be primarily promoting discussion about the Rules and Guidelines of this site and the accountability of administrators to those guidelines. [[User:CharlieJ|CharlieJ]] 09:08, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. This started out as a simple request from one admin to another for the latter to be more accommodating in the spirit of a wiki. user:Conservative has acted in a manner unbecoming of a sysop, dragging the debate across several pages, including - ironically - Mr. Schlafly's, whilst insisting that people cannot post on his talk page. If anybody deserves censure out of this, it is user:Conservative - he blows a simple request totally out of proportion, divides the sysop body and suddenly runs away - again! - claiming he is &amp;quot;very busy.&amp;quot; Somebody this irresponsible should not be in a position of authority. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:12, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. {{personal remark removed}}  User:RobS is correct in attempting to discipline him. {{unsigned|JanW}}&lt;br /&gt;
#I don't think either should lose their sysop rights. I enjoy reading Conservatives satirical works, they often make me laugh. On the other hand I think Rob is right, I am new here but I get a little nervous when I see how many people are blocked. {{unsigned|John01}}&lt;br /&gt;
#NAY! Conservative has been making a mockery of this website. Rob seems to be the only one able to see this and do something about it. Flying Kitties? FLYING KITTIES? --[[User:Rras|Robert Ras.]] 08:21, 2 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Debate:Should RobS lose his Sysop rights?</title>
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(To make the vote count accurate, I'm adding some votes that have been cast [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAschlafly&amp;amp;action=historysubmit&amp;amp;diff=895426&amp;amp;oldid=895420 elsewhere].  I invite anyone I've listed to add a comment by their name. --[[User:MarkGall|MarkGall]] 15:11, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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(I have removed those votes.  If people want to add their names then they can do so themselves.  It is highly presumptuous for you to add someone else's name to this list.  They may not wish to take part in this vote at all.  --[[User:JarradD|JarradD]] 17:19, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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(Note also:  Only actual signed votes by actual registered users carry any weight.  Statements that some unidentified person has privately supported one's position by email carry no weight.  Note also that sockpuppets are strictly forbidden at Conservapedia, and that &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; is used to discover violations. --[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 15:18, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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# Yes, this page is not being honest. I am not against refinement of Conservapedia's rules and suggested a [[User:Conservative/blocking-board-framework|blocking review board framework]]. This is about RobS: being disloyal to his fellow Conservapedians, not wanting to apply rules to himself, playing pointless power games, whitewashing Ashlafly's talk page and often behaving unreasonably. The dishonesty of this web page has probably caused Karajou and TerryH not to vote. Plus, Karajou believes sockpuppets are being used to vote and this page is a sham.  Furthermore, I did find it telling that RobS watched my vote and Karajou's vote being removed and did not bother to ask TerryH if he thought he should lose his Admin rights since I maintain this is TerryH's position. Given the dishonesty of this web page, I would not be surprised if others did not vote either and are not going to bother with this web page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:25, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#:'''Comment''' When did you vote and who altered your edit?  Show diffs, please, before throwing around reckless, wild accusations. [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:28, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#::'''Comment''' Does Karajou have any proof to show that people are just socking up? Let him run checkuser and weed them out.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:00, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Yea. User:RobSmith's plans will not be good for this website. [[User:Bclough|Bclough]] 16:10, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Yea. I never had a problem with RobS until he went after [[User:Conservative]].  [[User:Conservative]] is the lifeblood of this site.  Without him, CP dies.  [[Essay: User:Conservative, what is best in life?|What is best in life?]] Getting rid of RobS.  --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 16:30, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Conservative made good points about RobS's affiliations with an Atheist site. [[User:NickP|NickP]] 01:21, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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#I vote '''nay'''. RobS is trying to bring accountability to the site. There is something admirable in that, and it's a move in the right direction. [[User:KBarnett|—KBarnett ]] 14:56, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#RobS should keep his rights. If anything, Conservative should lose his. [[User:JonS|JonS]] 15:00, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  I can't see a reason why RobS should lose his rights, especially when there are others who seem to actively be harming the site through their actions.--[[User:MRellek|MRellek]] 15:03, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Obvious '''nay''' for obvious reasons. We need to put an end to arbitrary block times and the constant history deletion of pages (such as the ''Community Portal'') at the very least. As long as the sysops have the right to do whatever they please (while subjecting regular users to rules that are much stricter than for example Wikipedia's policies), the community won't grow and will forever be a paradise for parodists. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 15:04, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#I vote no.  I haven't been around in quite some time, but I used to be a fairly active user (with block rights etc) and left in part because of some of the same issues RobS has addressed. I too believe these &amp;quot;reforms&amp;quot; are necessary for the site to move forward, and may return to active participation if something along these lines is enacted.  --[[User:MarkGall|MarkGall]] 15:08, 31 July 2011 (EDT) (editing while traveling, please don't ban me for the IP change!) (PS: can some sysop fix the spelling of this page?)&lt;br /&gt;
#Obvious '''nay''', for all the reasons that have been discussed, by many people, here and elsewhere. --[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 15:18, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  I'm not well versed in this discussion nor this site, but even after wading through the community portal, it's not clearly expressed what RobS has done incorrectly that violates the policy of the site.  If anything, this seems more a grudge match, something in between a tit-for-tat and a vendetta.  Is Conservapedia really at a point at which ideas for the site can't be discussed?  [[User:IanR|IanR]] 15:22, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#As strong of a '''nay''' as one could possibly nay [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 15:22, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay, in the strongest possible terms.  If those in power are held to the rules that others must follow then a just society will always emerge.  If, however, those in authority are allowed to run rampage unchecked, then [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=327929 this] is the inevitable result.  Chaos, corruption and an organisation that can no longer function.--[[User:IeuanApGriffith|IeuanApGriffith]] 15:34, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  The only thing that will save this wiki as a conservative sight on the internet is Robs's proposals.  Lose them and this wiki will go the way TK wanted.  Rein in conservative and karajou and this project may JUST be saved. [[User:Davidspencer|Davidspencer]] 15:37, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#RobS is a reasonable fellow and is only trying to improve the wiki.  He is the only sysop campaigning in the face of User:conservative's abusive habits of shutting down discussion by&lt;br /&gt;
#*locking talk pages (including his own)&lt;br /&gt;
#*deleting and using oversight on talk pages to remove criticism of him&lt;br /&gt;
#*blocking people that disagree with him&lt;br /&gt;
#:As a result of this, User:conservative has become quite upset at being called out and instead of changing his ways is lashing out at RobS- which normally works fine except that RobS is also a sysop and thus can unblock himself and restore commentary.  Worst of all RobS is capable of committing the horrific crime of posting on User:conservative's talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
#:It is in Conservapedia's best interests to let Rob keep his rights and march by his side as he strives to improve the community and its interactions.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 15:59, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. RobS is working to improve the site (while keeping its conservative POV), Conservative to protect his petty fiefdom. [[User:GuidoF|Guy]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_talk:GuidoF|message me]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  This has gone too far. [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 16:59, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay.  If Rob were to lose his rights it would be a victory for the parodists and the bullies.  --[[User:JarradD|JarradD]] 17:14, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#There needs to be some sysop accountability. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 17:25, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Definitely not. RobS: Reasonable sysop who is trying to bring some accountability and respect. Conserative: An internet bully, who populates the site with substandard quote mined insults written in crude inelegant language. --[[User:Orsay|Orsay]] 17:54, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. I know I said I wouldn't edit this site again following its exploitation of recent events, but for this purpose I will briefly renege on that. RobSmith is the only sysop who is making a concerted effort to improve this site by implementing a set of coherent policies. His opponents are those who have most frequently abused their rights as sysops. Most notable among these is User: Conservative, whose numerous talk page comments and 'essays' are, if not parody, then a genuine cause for concern, and I would in all seriousness advise his fellow sysops to discretely speak with this user regarding this matter. The other vocal opponent of RobSmith is FergusE, who is very clearly a parodist here only to stir things up. [[User:WilliamB1|WilliamB1]] 18:41, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#I think it is wrong for one sysop to openly campaign against another, especially when it is based on the other only wanting to help the site. As conservatives we should expect accountability and transparency from those who run the site in the same way that we expect it of our government. The wielding of anonymous and unaccountable power is what one expects from Marxists. [[User:KarenWu|KarenWu]] 19:40, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. As far as I can see, Rob hasn't done anything to merit losing his Sysop rights. --[[User:MatthewQ|MatthewQ]] 19:53, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. This site needs more like Rob. [[User:EricAlstrom|EricAlstrom]] 20:12, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#Nay. RobS is one of the few people on here in power who is consistently calling for sysop accountability, something that is vital to a collaborative project like this. While I certainly do not support everything he does on here, not including this current issue, it is night and day compared to the nothingness that Conservative and his &amp;quot;articles&amp;quot; bring to this encyclopedia. This is a case of sour grapes from Conservative since he is the main culprit of sysop abuse currently. [[User:Ameda|ameda]] 21:58, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. He is a diligent and attentive administrator, as far as I am aware.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 07:13, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. RobS seems to be primarily promoting discussion about the Rules and Guidelines of this site and the accountability of administrators to those guidelines. [[User:CharlieJ|CharlieJ]] 09:08, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. This started out as a simple request from one admin to another for the latter to be more accommodating in the spirit of a wiki. user:Conservative has acted in a manner unbecoming of a sysop, dragging the debate across several pages, including - ironically - Mr. Schlafly's, whilst insisting that people cannot post on his talk page. If anybody deserves censure out of this, it is user:Conservative - he blows a simple request totally out of proportion, divides the sysop body and suddenly runs away - again! - claiming he is &amp;quot;very busy.&amp;quot; Somebody this irresponsible should not be in a position of authority. [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:12, 1 August 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
#No. {{personal remark removed}}  User:RobS is correct in attempting to discipline him. {{unsigned|JanW}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Debate:Should_RobS_lose_his_Sysop_rights%3F&amp;diff=895477</id>
		<title>Debate:Should RobS lose his Sysop rights?</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-31T19:22:48Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;'''Uhhh, this really isn't a debate. It's a poll. In response to [[User:Conservative]] pressuring the site owner to abandon established site policies and invoke [[mob rule]], please indicate your votes below.'''&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;''Note:User participation here will be exempt from the 90/10 rule, however there's no guarantee you may not suffer a reprisal block for participating. I will however do whatever I can to help if that were to happen.''&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Conservapedia Debates]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Yea==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Conservative]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:TerryH]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[User:Karajou]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Mystery Sysop 1&lt;br /&gt;
*Mystery Sysop 2&lt;br /&gt;
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(To make the vote count accurate, I'm adding some votes that have been cast [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAschlafly&amp;amp;action=historysubmit&amp;amp;diff=895426&amp;amp;oldid=895420 elsewhere].  I invite anyone I've listed to add a comment by their name. --[[User:MarkGall|MarkGall]] 15:11, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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(Note also:  Only actual signed votes by actual registered users carry any weight.  Statements that some unidentified person has privately supported one's position by email carry no weight.  Note also that sockpuppets are strictly forbidden at Conservapedia, and that &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; is used to discover violations. --[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 15:18, 31 July 2011 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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*I vote '''nay'''. RobS is trying to bring accountability to the site. There is something admirable in that, and it's a move in the right direction. [[User:KBarnett|—KBarnett ]] 14:56, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*RobS should keep his rights. If anything, Conservative should lose his. [[User:JonS|JonS]] 15:00, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Nay.  I can't see a reason why RobS should lose his rights, especially when there are others who seem to actively be harming the site through their actions.--[[User:MRellek|MRellek]] 15:03, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obvious '''nay''' for obvious reasons. We need to put an end to arbitrary block times and the constant history deletion of pages (such as the ''Community Portal'') at the very least. As long as the sysops have the right to do whatever they please (while subjecting regular users to rules that are much stricter than for example Wikipedia's policies), the community won't grow and will forever be a paradise for parodists. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 15:04, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*I vote no.  I haven't been around in quite some time, but I used to be a fairly active user (with block rights etc) and left in part because of some of the same issues RobS has addressed. I too believe these &amp;quot;reforms&amp;quot; are necessary for the site to move forward, and may return to active participation if something along these lines is enacted.  --[[User:MarkGall|MarkGall]] 15:08, 31 July 2011 (EDT) (editing while traveling, please don't ban me for the IP change!) (PS: can some sysop fix the spelling of this page?)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obvious '''nay''', for all the reasons that have been discussed, by many people, here and elsewhere. --[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 15:18, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*Nay.  I'm not well versed in this discussion nor this site, but even after wading through the community portal, it's not clearly expressed what RobS has done incorrectly that violates the policy of the site.  If anything, this seems more a grudge match, something in between a tit-for-tat and a vendetta.  Is Conservapedia really at a point at which ideas for the site can't be discussed?  [[User:IanR|IanR]] 15:22, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*As strong of a '''nay''' as one could possibly nay [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 15:22, 31 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Anders_Behring_Breivik&amp;diff=893487</id>
		<title>Talk:Anders Behring Breivik</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-26T12:54:57Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;I removed the accusations that the whole thing was a setup for false flag type reasons because the guy admitted to the crime, there is no evidence to doubt this admission, and I understand that Savage has retracted his earlier statements.  Lets deal with facts not unhelpful speculations.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 01:59, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree, the version before this one was bizarre and fringe.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 08:54, 26 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Anders_Behring_Breivik&amp;diff=893486</id>
		<title>Anders Behring Breivik</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Anders_Behring_Breivik&amp;diff=893486"/>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Anders Behring Breivik''' was accused of, and has since admitted, murdering at least 93 people in Norway on July 22, 2011.  He was born in Oslo, Norway on February 13th, 1979.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=The_Room&amp;diff=893384</id>
		<title>The Room</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-25T23:39:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: Created page with &amp;quot;''The Room'' is a independent film written, directed by, and starring Tommy Wiseau.  It had a limited release in 2003.     == Plot ==  Johnny and his fiancee, Lisa are living tog...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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== Plot ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Johnny and his fiancee, Lisa are living together in San Francisco.  Johnny's best friend, Mark, is having an affair with Lisa behind Johnny's back because Lisa finds Johnny boring.  Meanwhile, Lisa's mother has been diagnosed with breast cancer, Johnny acquires a top secret client at his bank job whose identity he's sworn to protect, and Johnny's other friend, Gerald, diagnosis Lisa as a sociopath, prompting Mark to almost throw him off a roof.  The affair is exposed at Johnny's birthday party.  The events lead Johnny to commit suicide, causing Lisa and Mark agony over what they have done.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The film is a moral lesson on the dangers of living in sin and adultery.  Had Lisa and Johnny not lived together, Lisa would have never been bored with Johnny until after they were married.  Had Mark not had an adulterous relationship with Lisa behind Johnny's back, Johnny would not have committed suicide.  The film underlines how your selfish actions can hurt others more than you realize.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Legacy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The film is still occasionally screened at midnight in California.  Many bring their families, especially young children, as an introduction/reinforcement of Christian family values.  The film is enjoyed all the same by non-Christians as well.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Debate:_Should_the_United_States_defund_the_National_Science_Foundation%3F&amp;diff=890515</id>
		<title>Debate: Should the United States defund the National Science Foundation?</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-18T12:12:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
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Should the United States defund scientific research?&lt;br /&gt;
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== YES ==&lt;br /&gt;
Science has yet to fully explain many basic things, such as how gravity or magnets work.  With a budget of $6.87 billion and so little to show for it and with the Bible being a rich and ready-made source of much [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge|scientific knowledge]], the US should completely defund all scientific research and use that money to fund other more immediate needs.  --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 23:19, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummmm, I know how both gravity and magnetism work. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:20, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You might have an idea about what science says this week, but science is always changing.  Secular researchers really have no idea how they work.  --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 23:37, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Magnetism and gravity are very well understood forces. I think you are just pulling our legs. I am going to keep an eye on you. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:39, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Please stick to the topic at hand.  Should the United States Government be using taxpayer money to fund scientific research of dubious utility? --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 23:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Who decides what is &amp;quot;scientific research of dubious utility&amp;quot;? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:13, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, Andrey Schlafly has labeled many areas of science as &amp;quot;junk science&amp;quot;.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::that doesn't really answer my question. And I would like to hear from the guy who thinks science can't explain magnetism. I suspect the user isn't who he claims. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:29, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I never said science can't explain magnetism, only that it hasn't and that the United States doesn't need to be wasting billions of taxpayer dollars researching it.  Scientific research has lead to abortion, the racist theory of evolution and the acceptance of perversion.  It exists to draw people away from the wisdom of Christ and towards the folly of man. I'm done with this. --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 01:55, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Magnets and gravity are so simple and so basic that a 5 year old could understand it (because I learned how they both work in *GASP* the evil public schools when I was 5).  You don't understand how the scientific theory works and I'm not going to sit here and explain such a basic concept to a parodist.  Or maybe you're not, you sound just like some of the sysops here.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 08:12, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Debate:_Should_the_United_States_defund_the_National_Science_Foundation%3F&amp;diff=890487</id>
		<title>Debate: Should the United States defund the National Science Foundation?</title>
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		<updated>2011-07-18T04:25:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
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Should the United States defund scientific research?&lt;br /&gt;
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== YES ==&lt;br /&gt;
Science has yet to fully explain many basic things, such as how gravity or magnets work.  With a budget of $6.87 billion and so little to show for it and with the Bible being a rich and ready-made source of much [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge|scientific knowledge]], the US should completely defund all scientific research and use that money to fund other more immediate needs.  --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 23:19, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ummmm, I know how both gravity and magnetism work. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:20, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You might have an idea about what science says this week, but science is always changing.  Secular researchers really have no idea how they work.  --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 23:37, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Magnetism and gravity are very well understood forces. I think you are just pulling our legs. I am going to keep an eye on you. [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 23:39, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Please stick to the topic at hand.  Should the United States Government be using taxpayer money to fund scientific research of dubious utility? --[[User:FergusE|FergusE]] 23:49, 17 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Who decides what is &amp;quot;scientific research of dubious utility&amp;quot;? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 00:13, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, Andrey Schlafly has labeled many areas of science as &amp;quot;junk science&amp;quot;.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 00:25, 18 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CamilleT&amp;diff=884436</id>
		<title>User talk:CamilleT</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-29T23:17:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* No!! */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;If you have something to say but you wish to say it in private, please feel free to [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:EmailUser/CamilleT email me]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{welcome|sig=[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 19:27, 24 May 2011 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Santorum==&lt;br /&gt;
We're gonna need the Dan Savage article to fill in the red link at [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Conservative Personalities]]. Thanks.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:01, 7 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Alright.  I'll see what I can do.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:03, 7 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How's the [[Dan Savage]] page coming? Not read for prime time?  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:01, 9 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::give me a day or so, I just got a new toilet installed in my apartment and the old one leaked everywhere while I was taking it out and I really need to clean the place up and stop going on the internet!--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 17:08, 9 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarkozy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Vive la France... sans Sarkozy! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 22:29, 18 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pienso que la derecha francés es mejor que la derecha Americana, pero solo para las libertades sociales.  Los dos necessitan mente el tercer mundo que se rompió en el primer lugar (lo siento por mi espanol de idioto)--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 22:39, 18 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Media Bias ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked into those headlines, yes those are authentic Fox News. I don't get the bias part. The AP and Fox have different target audiences. Just because the title changes doesn't mean it is stolen. In addition, the story had AP attribution on the picture. I am sure AP is aware or would've cried intellectual property rights. &lt;br /&gt;
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Get a better idea of the leftwing side of media bias, which is the absolute scourge of the American people, view this link on Dear Leader economics. [http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/06/unexpectedly-compilation.html]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:38, 24 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I only skimmed through the post and found it amusing.  I don't believe Fox &amp;quot;stole&amp;quot; the stories, I just think they put their own spin on them.  I'll have a look at your link (I get most of my news from AP, APF, and Reuters from my Yahoo! homepage, and sometimes NPR when I feel like turning on the radio).  Can't promise a conversion though ;)   --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 19:56, 24 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I looked at your link, but I'm unsure of what conclusions I should take from it.  I think it's normal that predictions fall short of reality.  It also depends on which experts you consult.  Were they referring to their own experts or the estimations of the Obama administration?--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:19, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hello==&lt;br /&gt;
Salut de l'Angleterre :) Just wanted to say hi, I admire the way you have been posting in the last few days and I think you are helping a lot to improve the quality of this encyclopedia! Keep up the good work! And, oui, je parle francais :) --[[User:LeonardO|Leo-from-UK]] 16:01, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pleased to meet you, and glad to be of service--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:01, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== No!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, PLEASE, revert your edit with that link to the essay response.  You should know how this place works (it doesn't). [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 16:18, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Don't worry.  It was not an unreasonable deed on my part, and I'm sure the administrators will understand.  I was merely facilitating access to the replies to the Question Evolution campaign.  I have also proven myself with some quality contributions and Conservapedia's administrators know I'm not here to cause trouble. --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:25, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's a bit premature to declare that you have &amp;quot;proven yourself&amp;quot;, and that is a matter one usually leaves to others. Consider yourself on probation. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:50, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Told you.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:17, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== a warning  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have publicly said that I do not agree with everything at Conservapedia. With being said, linking to a source which cites material from a trashy site which is associated with wiki vandals was a poor choice. The website is filled with obsessive underachievers and their content reflects this matter. I would suggest not doing it again. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 19:20, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:As you wish.  In my defense, though, I believe the link was necessary in order to communicate the answers to the questions.  Worry not: I shall henceforth comply and never link there again--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 19:25, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That person could have easily posted that material at another website.  Perhaps, it was just a cheap publicity ploy by a group of obsessive underachievers who have a penchant to do wiki vandalism. I think they are angry that their fun house mirror distortion of reality (also known as [[atheism]]) isn't gaining much traction [[Atheism and the internet|on the worldwide web]] or [[Atheist Population|in the world at large.]]  :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 20:21, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, the answers were there, as I'm sure they are wherever else other online evolutionists go.  Try talk.origins or something if you can't bear the vandal site.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 21:12, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Pat &amp;quot;answers&amp;quot; don't count. By pat answers I mean non-answers which are evasive. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 21:40, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Addendum: I hope that clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 21:43, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Then we'll have to agree to disagree as to the content of the answers.  Thanks for clarifying--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 21:45, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CamilleT&amp;diff=884435</id>
		<title>User talk:CamilleT</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CamilleT&amp;diff=884435"/>
		<updated>2011-06-29T23:17:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* No!! */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;If you have something to say but you wish to say it in private, please feel free to [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:EmailUser/CamilleT email me]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{welcome|sig=[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 19:27, 24 May 2011 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Santorum==&lt;br /&gt;
We're gonna need the Dan Savage article to fill in the red link at [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Conservative Personalities]]. Thanks.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:01, 7 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Alright.  I'll see what I can do.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:03, 7 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How's the [[Dan Savage]] page coming? Not read for prime time?  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:01, 9 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::give me a day or so, I just got a new toilet installed in my apartment and the old one leaked everywhere while I was taking it out and I really need to clean the place up and stop going on the internet!--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 17:08, 9 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarkozy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Vive la France... sans Sarkozy! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 22:29, 18 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pienso que la derecha francés es mejor que la derecha Americana, pero solo para las libertades sociales.  Los dos necessitan mente el tercer mundo que se rompió en el primer lugar (lo siento por mi espanol de idioto)--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 22:39, 18 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Media Bias ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked into those headlines, yes those are authentic Fox News. I don't get the bias part. The AP and Fox have different target audiences. Just because the title changes doesn't mean it is stolen. In addition, the story had AP attribution on the picture. I am sure AP is aware or would've cried intellectual property rights. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Get a better idea of the leftwing side of media bias, which is the absolute scourge of the American people, view this link on Dear Leader economics. [http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/06/unexpectedly-compilation.html]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:38, 24 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I only skimmed through the post and found it amusing.  I don't believe Fox &amp;quot;stole&amp;quot; the stories, I just think they put their own spin on them.  I'll have a look at your link (I get most of my news from AP, APF, and Reuters from my Yahoo! homepage, and sometimes NPR when I feel like turning on the radio).  Can't promise a conversion though ;)   --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 19:56, 24 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I looked at your link, but I'm unsure of what conclusions I should take from it.  I think it's normal that predictions fall short of reality.  It also depends on which experts you consult.  Were they referring to their own experts or the estimations of the Obama administration?--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:19, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hello==&lt;br /&gt;
Salut de l'Angleterre :) Just wanted to say hi, I admire the way you have been posting in the last few days and I think you are helping a lot to improve the quality of this encyclopedia! Keep up the good work! And, oui, je parle francais :) --[[User:LeonardO|Leo-from-UK]] 16:01, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pleased to meet you, and glad to be of service--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:01, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== No!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please, PLEASE, revert your edit with that link to the essay response.  You should know how this place works (it doesn't). [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 16:18, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Don't worry.  It was not an unreasonable deed on my part, and I'm sure the administrators will understand.  I was merely facilitating access to the replies to the Question Evolution campaign.  I have also proven myself with some quality contributions and Conservapedia's administrators know I'm not here to cause trouble. --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:25, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's a bit premature to declare that you have &amp;quot;proven yourself&amp;quot;, and that is a matter one usually leaves to others. Consider yourself on probation. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:50, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Told you.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:17, 29 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== a warning  ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I have publicly said that I do not agree with everything at Conservapedia. With being said, linking to a source which cites material from a trashy site which is associated with wiki vandals was a poor choice. The website is filled with obsessive underachievers and their content reflects this matter. I would suggest not doing it again. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 19:20, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:As you wish.  In my defense, though, I believe the link was necessary in order to communicate the answers to the questions.  Worry not: I shall henceforth comply and never link there again--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 19:25, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That person could have easily posted that material at another website.  Perhaps, it was just a cheap publicity ploy by a group of obsessive underachievers who have a penchant to do wiki vandalism. I think they are angry that their fun house mirror distortion of reality (also known as [[atheism]]) isn't gaining much traction [[Atheism and the internet|on the worldwide web]] or [[Atheist Population|in the world at large.]]  :) [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 20:21, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Well, the answers were there, as I'm sure they are wherever else other online evolutionists go.  Try talk.origins or something if you can't bear the vandal site.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 21:12, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Pat &amp;quot;answers&amp;quot; don't count. By pat answers I mean non-answers which are evasive. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 21:40, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Addendum: I hope that clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 21:43, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Then we'll have to agree to disagree as to the content of the answers.  Thanks for clarifying--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 21:45, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CamilleT&amp;diff=882794</id>
		<title>User talk:CamilleT</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CamilleT&amp;diff=882794"/>
		<updated>2011-06-25T20:18:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* No!! */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome|sig=[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 19:27, 24 May 2011 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Santorum==&lt;br /&gt;
We're gonna need the Dan Savage article to fill in the red link at [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Conservative Personalities]]. Thanks.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 16:01, 7 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Alright.  I'll see what I can do.--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:03, 7 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::How's the [[Dan Savage]] page coming? Not read for prime time?  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 17:01, 9 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::give me a day or so, I just got a new toilet installed in my apartment and the old one leaked everywhere while I was taking it out and I really need to clean the place up and stop going on the internet!--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 17:08, 9 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sarkozy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Vive la France... sans Sarkozy! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez|Joaquín Martínez]] 22:29, 18 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pienso que la derecha francés es mejor que la derecha Americana, pero solo para las libertades sociales.  Los dos necessitan mente el tercer mundo que se rompió en el primer lugar (lo siento por mi espanol de idioto)--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 22:39, 18 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Media Bias ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked into those headlines, yes those are authentic Fox News. I don't get the bias part. The AP and Fox have different target audiences. Just because the title changes doesn't mean it is stolen. In addition, the story had AP attribution on the picture. I am sure AP is aware or would've cried intellectual property rights. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Get a better idea of the leftwing side of media bias, which is the absolute scourge of the American people, view this link on Dear Leader economics. [http://punditpress.blogspot.com/2011/06/unexpectedly-compilation.html]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:38, 24 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I only skimmed through the post and found it amusing.  I don't believe Fox &amp;quot;stole&amp;quot; the stories, I just think they put their own spin on them.  I'll have a look at your link (I get most of my news from AP, APF, and Reuters from my Yahoo! homepage, and sometimes NPR when I feel like turning on the radio).  Can't promise a conversion though ;)   --[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 19:56, 24 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Hello==&lt;br /&gt;
Salut de l'Angleterre :) Just wanted to say hi, I admire the way you have been posting in the last few days and I think you are helping a lot to improve the quality of this encyclopedia! Keep up the good work! And, oui, je parle francais :) --[[User:LeonardO|Leo-from-UK]] 16:01, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Pleased to meet you, and glad to be of service--[[User:CamilleT|CamilleT]] 16:01, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== No!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, PLEASE, revert your edit with that link to the essay response.  You should know how this place works (it doesn't). [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 16:18, 25 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=879231</id>
		<title>User talk:TerryB</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-14T23:33:18Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* What about history? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome|sig=&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:32, 13 May 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about history? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On your user page you list three subjects that schools should be taught... and you fail to list history. Why?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 17:31, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:History classes are biased.  That's why. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::how so?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 01:53, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::My US History teacher was very anti-Vietnam, to the point of exaggerating how bad it was.  You can be a teacher and have an opinion, but you can't let it interfere with teaching facts.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 09:22, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Interestingly enough, a LOT of people are anti-vietnam, more or less justified in how one of our main goals was to keep vietnam-southern edition alive. And that in no way means all history teachers are biased. --[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 10:04, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I think the Vietnam war was a stupid pointless waste of time as well, but he lied about why we were there and what we did while we were there. All the history teachers I ever had were liberally biased.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 19:33, 14 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=878490</id>
		<title>User talk:TerryB</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-12T13:22:25Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
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That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about history? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
On your user page you list three subjects that schools should be taught... and you fail to list history. Why?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 17:31, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:History classes are biased.  That's why. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::how so?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 01:53, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::My US History teacher was very anti-Vietnam, to the point of exaggerating how bad it was.  You can be a teacher and have an opinion, but you can't let it interfere with teaching facts.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 09:22, 12 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=878349</id>
		<title>User talk:TerryB</title>
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		<updated>2011-06-12T00:15:23Z</updated>

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That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What about history? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On your user page you list three subjects that schools should be taught... and you fail to list history. Why?--[[User:SeanS|SeanS]] 17:31, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:History classes are biased.  That's why. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:15, 11 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Postpartum_depression&amp;diff=870224</id>
		<title>Postpartum depression</title>
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		<updated>2011-05-19T18:52:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: Created page with &amp;quot;'''Postpartum Depression''', also known as Postnatal Depression, is a clinical form of depression experienced by mothers after they give birth.  Men can experience it too, but it...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Postpartum Depression''', also known as Postnatal Depression, is a clinical form of depression experienced by mothers after they give birth.  Men can experience it too, but it is much less common. 5% to 25% of women &amp;quot;experience&amp;quot; postpartum depression.  It is commonly used as an excuse by feministic mothers as an excuse to not fulfill their motherly role.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Symptoms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*sadness&lt;br /&gt;
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*neglect of the child&lt;br /&gt;
*fatigue&lt;br /&gt;
*thoughts of harming the child&lt;br /&gt;
*physically harming the child&lt;br /&gt;
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== Treatment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Group therapy and counseling have successfully treated and cured postpartum depression in men and women.  Medication is sometimes prescribed but is discouraged.  Speaking with your local clergy is the best treatment, feminist or not.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Michele_Bachmann&amp;diff=869938</id>
		<title>Michele Bachmann</title>
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		<updated>2011-05-17T22:09:14Z</updated>

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|party=[[Republican]]&lt;br /&gt;
|spouse=Marcus Bachmann&lt;br /&gt;
|religion=Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod&lt;br /&gt;
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	{{Officeholder/representative&lt;br /&gt;
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	|terms=January 4, 2007 – Present&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Michele M. Bachmann''', born April 6, 1956 (age {{age|1956|04|06}}), is a [[conservative]] and the first [[Republican Party|Republican]] woman to be elected to the [[United States House of Representatives|U.S. House of Representatives]] from [[Minnesota]].  She represents the 6th District of Minnesota.  &lt;br /&gt;
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A [[movement conservative]], Michele Bachmann defeated a massive attempt by [[liberals]] to defeat her in 2008 and 2010.  Prior to her election to [[Congress]], she served in the Minnesota state [[legislature]] since first being elected there in 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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Michele Bachmann, an [[attorney]], is a former tax litigator.  She has five [[children]] and has also opened her home to 23 foster children.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://bachmann.house.gov/Biography/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bachmann is [[pro-life]], [[pro-gun]],&amp;lt;REF&amp;gt;[http://minnesota.publicradio.org/collections/special/columns/polinaut/archive/2008/10/bachmann_gets_n.shtml Bachmann gets new campaign manager, NRA endorsement] MN. Public Radio, OCTOBER 3, 2008&amp;lt;/REF&amp;gt; pro-religion and holds many other core conservative values. A search for her on [[Google]] turns up five positive sites for every 100 nasty liberal smear sites, like the [[Huffington Post]]. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has now officially put the outspoken Minnesota Republican in their sights with the bachmannwatch website. &lt;br /&gt;
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== [[Liberal]] Criticisms ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberals have been hysterical about some of the candid observations of Congresswoman Bachmann.  She was targeted for comments made seeking an investigation into the [[Obama]]-[[William Ayers|Ayers]] connection, the &amp;quot;tolerant&amp;quot; liberal establishment even compared her to the Nazis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tim-graham/2008/10/21/hardball-gone-mad-congresswoman-compared-nazi-insisting-media-cover-obam Hardball Gone Mad: Congresswoman Compared to Nazi for Insisting Media Cover Obama-Ayers Connection], Tim Graham, ''Newsbusters'', October 21, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  She deserves many compliments for her insight and courage. Congresswoman Rep. Bachmann, &amp;quot;has shown an uncanny knack for infuriating critics with sometimes off-the-wall behavior and comments, all the while advancing her own political career.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/03/19/pub-michele-bachmann/ Outspoken But Not Outmaneuvered, Rep. Bachmann Manages Her Candor], Judson Berger, ''Fox News.com'', March 27, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[United States Presidential Election, 2012]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bachmann3.jpg|left|150px]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References == &lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}} &lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Bachmann, Michele}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: 110th United States Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:United States Representatives]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:The 100 Americans The Left Hates Most]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2010 Midterm Elections]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Conservatism}}&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bachmann.house.gov/ Official Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opencongress.org/people/show/412216_michele_bachmann Open Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thR-lVuztIY Video of Bachmann talking about the gangster government on the House floor]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Goldman Sachs</title>
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Goldman Sachs is a banking corporation whose business is investment banking and investment management, along with many other financial services.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Business==&lt;br /&gt;
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==Role in the [[Financial Crisis of 2008]]==&lt;br /&gt;
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Part of the business model of Goldman Sachs, along with countless other investment banks, has been to trade debt obligations for profit.  As part of this strategy, Goldman Sachs purchsed consolidated mortgage loan obligations from lenders and sold the repackaged obligations to other banks and financial institutions at a profit.  As part of the repackaging, low expectations of loan repayment were hidden, encouraging Goldman Sachs' clients to purchase the loan obligations without fully understanding how unlikely it was that mortgage holders would actually pay those loans back.  As more and more mortgage holders defaulted, the companies Goldman Sachs had sold loan obligations to began to lose money, and as these companies were clients of Goldman Sachs, so did Goldman Sachs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Controversy and Antisemitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no doubt that actions taken by Goldman Sachs employees had a part in causing the financial crisis of the late 2000s.  Furthermore, actions taken by former Goldman Sachs employees, like Henry Paulson, likely worsened the recession.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, the media has given an inordinate amount of attention to Goldman Sachs, with strong accusations of economic tampering, criticism of their business practices, and outrage over bonuses paid to executives.  While other companies, which were arguably at least as responsible for the recession as Goldman Sachs ([[AIG]] is a great example), have received some media scrutiny, no company has been as violently attacked as Goldman Sachs.  This has led some to accuse those in the media of antisemitism against the company, due to its name.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-08-20/goldman-execs-blame-anti-semitism/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Economics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Companies]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies</title>
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== Public Discussion Here ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Brokeback Mountain ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking about this topic earlier and had an interesting thought about a seemingly non-conservative movie that, in a way, is actually quite so. I'm going to throw this out there for some (hopefully productive and civil) debate and see what people think.&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie is Brokeback Mountain. Now hold on to your outrage, people. I have justifications for my point. Please hear me out. (Oh, and spoilers, just in case you planned to see/read it and hadn't)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you probably know, the movie (and the novella on which its based) is about two men who fall into a homosexual lifestyle. But what struck me as conservative about this film is that it doesn't glorify the lifestyle; the two mens' choice to indulge in homosexuality is a disastrous choice that ends up ruining both their lives. One man's marriage is destroyed and his relationship with his child is forever tainted. The other man's choice actually leads to his violent death (Incidentally, I'm not saying that killing someone for being gay is a conservative value. But the point is that this movie is actually very up-front about acknowledging the catastrophic consequences of a homosexual lifestyle).&lt;br /&gt;
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Considering all that, my next though was whether this movie might be unintentionally conservative, in which case it certainly doesn't belong on this list. But I don't think it is (haven't seen it since it first came out though, so I could be wrong).&lt;br /&gt;
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So, there's my point. I would appreciate some discussion. I imagine some CPers will think I'm trolling or just trying to start an argument. Not so. I feel like it's a valid point but that there are probably strong arguments for and against, and I'd really like to hear what other people think. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 17:11, 25 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== U-571 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I deleted U-571 from this list. It portrays the capture of an Enigma machine from a German U-boat by US forces. As pretty much everyone with any interest in WW2 knows, the naval Enigma machine was stolen by Polish forces and decoded by British code-breakers at Bletchley. My Brit friends think U-571 is a joke because it minimises the role of the British (&amp;quot;you arrogant Yankees&amp;quot;). Poles are offended because it cuts out the Polish involvement altogether - including the very brave men who risked their lives to steal an Enigma machine and hand it over to British Intelligence. (BTW, Britain and Poland were allies of ours in WW2 and still are now.) Deceit isn't a conservative virtue - so I crossed U-571 off the list. [[User:BenjyB|BenjyB]] 16:51, 20 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I'd say it's very questionable whether there's any deceit involved. The movie makes an on-screen written acknowledgment that the the first (and the majority) of enigmas were captured by British sailors. The whole movie is so over-the-top that nobody with a lick of intelligence would believe it's true. American sailors did capture an enigma machine during the war too, so this movie is obviously &amp;quot;inspired by a true story&amp;quot; even if it's not especially true. Most of the movie-going public knows that Hollywood &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; stories are highly fictionalized. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 13:13, 21 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Lives of Others==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where on earth is The Lives of Others? it is, surely, the best recent critique of Communism and, for that matter, one of the best films ''of any type'' released in the past five years. It certainly deserves a place ahead of, for example, the obscure Dark Matter. --[[User:Jdixon|Jdixon]] 12:13, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's in German, right, and about the former [[East Germany]]?  I'll add it on your recommendation, but I can't agree it ranks higher than the English-language Dark Matter, which speaks to today and not just the past.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:41, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Fair enough, Andy. Though I don't quite understand the argument against foreign-language films. If the issue is obscurity, The Lives of Others was seen by far more people in the US than Dark Matter. A glance at Box-Office Mojo confirms that Dark Matter took in a staggeringly tiny $30,591 on its domestic run. The Lives of Others took in $11,286,112 in the US (plus another $66 million in the rest of the world). I am, however, content to abide by your criteria. --[[User:Jdixon|Jdixon]] 15:40, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Oprah Winfrey's daytime talk show rakes in far higher revenues than both, but I'm not sure what that proves.  Dark Matter was apparently victimized and downplayed by liberals who finally figured out its conservative message, after it won first place in one of the Sundance Film Festival categories.  The liberal backlash against Dark Matter is particularly surprising given that Meryl Streep starred in it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:48, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::P.S. Your suggestion of &amp;quot;The Lives of Others&amp;quot; is a fine addition.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:02, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::No problem. Keep up the good work. --[[User:Jdixon|Jdixon]] 20:47, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fiddler on the Roof? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A film celebrating the value of community, tradition, family, and faith, all against the historical context of the harm done by the rise of Communism in Russia...worthy of a spot on the list?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 18:30, 6 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good to me ... please add it as you think best!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:48, 6 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gattaca ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A condemnation of genetic experiments on humans, and a wonderful triumph of individualism in an extremely controlled society. No matter how much scientists play to be God, and try to improve the human race by using genetics, there will always be an individual, based on original God design, who, despite his health shortcomings, will triumph over this genetically modified, supposedly perfect human beings. &lt;br /&gt;
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I don’t immediately put it on the list because the movie is a bit atheist. In the final scene, the hero finally managed to travel to space and cites the phrase: “They say every atom in our bodies was once a part of a star. So, maybe I'm not leaving, maybe I'm going home.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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So, I’ll say that the movie has a conservative message, unfortunately diluted with atheist overtones. I’ll wait for someone else opinion before posting this. --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 23:03, 10 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Feel free to post this with the caveat you mention.  Thanks for explaining it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::We talked about this movie at my fellowship a few months ago - pure hokum about a guy who might have been alright on his own but for a disgusting patriarchy forcing human engineering. I'll write this if AlejandroJ doesn't. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 00:51, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks, I posted it. --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 15:31, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disney cartoons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Most, and perhaps all, of the Disney cartoons for the past 15 or so years have pushed the [[feminist]] ideology.  I welcome any counterexamples, but doubt there are any.  Hence the reversion of the &amp;quot;Princess and the Frog (2009)&amp;quot; addition.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:31, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:''The Lion King'', a 1994 Disney movie, is definitely conservative. A main message of the movie is honoring thy father, and the power-hungry main antagonist, once he becomes ruler, favors big government, pushes [[liberal values]] and destroys their territory. I'll add it with your approval. [[User:DennyW66|DennyW66]] 15:45, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sounds like a good choice.  Please add and if anyone has a different view of the movie, then he can let us know.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:26, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Added. [[User:DennyW66|DennyW66]] 16:41, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Schlafly I would agree with your reversion of my contribution of the Princess and the Frog if that movie were feminist-ideology-promoting (like, for instance Mulan (1998)) but frankly, it is not a feminist movie. I am not a woman, nor a feminist - I am staunchly conservative. The Princess and the Frog promotes monogamous marriage (which feminism does not) as well as the other conservative values I listed (such as saving money, hard work, free enterprise etc).  In fact, the main character is so pro-marriage that she changes her licentious friend's behavior from debauchery (which feminism promotes) to monogamy. It is possibly the most conservative-value-laden animated movie I have ever seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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''The Lion King'' on the other hand promotes re-incarnation with its &amp;quot;Circle of Life&amp;quot; song. Jack, the hero of ''Titanic'' commits fornication and mocks a man reciting the 23rd Psalm; Cal, the main antagonist is depicted as a church-service-attending hypocrite. &lt;br /&gt;
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You are doubtless correct about the feminist ideology pushed by many Disney animations, but this is not one of them. I respectfully request that you consider returning my contribution of 'The Princess and the Frog'. [[User:Spotsbunch|Spotsbunch]] 23:17, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have to disagree with you about The Lion King. As far as I can interpret, &amp;quot;The Circle of Life&amp;quot; is either about the bond all humans share or the journey from life to death and the afterlife, not reincarnation. [[User:DennyW66|DennyW66]] 00:36, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Spotsbunch, I think you have a valid point about the Lion King, but from what I've heard about the &amp;quot;Princess and the Frog,&amp;quot; it's feminist claptrap with the woman wearing the pants and doing everything except having children and homeschooling her kids.  It's more Disney tripe about a successful businesswoman towing along an inept man, which is hardly typical in the real world.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:56, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Arguably, any movie where people turn into frogs, or where in Beauty and the Beast, people have transmogrified into furniture is not &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot;. Fantasies they may be, (like many movies listed here) but they are still conservative. I (finally) put it to your kind consideration that if you would watch the Princess and the Frog, you would find it contains less feminism and more conservativism than Beauty and the Beast. Whatever your judgment, I respect your decision and will refrain from further debate, even though I (thus far) disagree.  Kindest regards [[User:Spotsbunch|Spotsbunch]] 08:43, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[Feminism]] is unmistakable: it has women acting like men and vice-versa, contrary to reality.  Disney cartoons have been ''heavily'' feminist for at least 15 years.  ''Beauty and the Beast'', made 20 years ago, was not feminist in any way.  But having a &amp;quot;Princess&amp;quot; act like a businessman and aspire to run a restaurant is feminist.  What's next - Cinderella aspires to be a CEO of a Fortune 500 company???--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:10, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Is there any reason a woman can't run a restaurant or a fortune 500 company? No really, Andy, I want to know.  Why is it feminist to portray a woman doing anything but cooking, cleaning, and rearing children? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 13:40, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Who said anything about cooking and cleaning?  And, no, there isn't a reason why a woman can't aspire to any field, such as plumbers (almost no women plumbers), gas station attendants (ditto), or professional football players (ditto).  The fact is that the vast majority of women ''do not aspire'' to do such activities (or running a restaurant or a Fortune 500 company), and it's false for feminists or feminist movies to repeatedly pretend otherwise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:48, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I apologize for my abrasiveness, it just seemed that you were implying that's all they're supposed to do.  I can see where you're coming from.  While a woman can do what she wants, feminists are wrong for telling woman that they should only aspire to do things traditionally done by men.  Men normally aren't beauty consultants, clothing designers, or nail salon technicians, so why don't we see any men urging more men to do these things? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 14:00, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Brokeback Mountain ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking about this topic earlier and had an interesting thought about a seemingly non-conservative movie that, in a way, is actually quite so. I'm going to throw this out there for some (hopefully productive and civil) debate and see what people think.&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie is Brokeback Mountain. Now hold on to your outrage, people. I have justifications for my point. Please hear me out. (Oh, and spoilers, just in case you planned to see/read it and hadn't)&lt;br /&gt;
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As you probably know, the movie (and the novella on which its based) is about two men who fall into a homosexual lifestyle. But what struck me as conservative about this film is that it doesn't glorify the lifestyle; the two mens' choice to indulge in homosexuality is a disastrous choice that ends up ruining both their lives. One man's marriage is destroyed and his relationship with his child is forever tainted. The other man's choice actually leads to his violent death (Incidentally, I'm not saying that killing someone for being gay is a conservative value. But the point is that this movie is actually very up-front about acknowledging the catastrophic consequences of a homosexual lifestyle).&lt;br /&gt;
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Considering all that, my next though was whether this movie might be unintentionally conservative, in which case it certainly doesn't belong on this list. But I don't think it is (haven't seen it since it first came out though, so I could be wrong).&lt;br /&gt;
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So, there's my point. I would appreciate some discussion. I imagine some CPers will think I'm trolling or just trying to start an argument. Not so. I feel like it's a valid point but that there are probably strong arguments for and against, and I'd really like to hear what other people think. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 17:11, 25 June 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== U-571 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I deleted U-571 from this list. It portrays the capture of an Enigma machine from a German U-boat by US forces. As pretty much everyone with any interest in WW2 knows, the naval Enigma machine was stolen by Polish forces and decoded by British code-breakers at Bletchley. My Brit friends think U-571 is a joke because it minimises the role of the British (&amp;quot;you arrogant Yankees&amp;quot;). Poles are offended because it cuts out the Polish involvement altogether - including the very brave men who risked their lives to steal an Enigma machine and hand it over to British Intelligence. (BTW, Britain and Poland were allies of ours in WW2 and still are now.) Deceit isn't a conservative virtue - so I crossed U-571 off the list. [[User:BenjyB|BenjyB]] 16:51, 20 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I'd say it's very questionable whether there's any deceit involved. The movie makes an on-screen written acknowledgment that the the first (and the majority) of enigmas were captured by British sailors. The whole movie is so over-the-top that nobody with a lick of intelligence would believe it's true. American sailors did capture an enigma machine during the war too, so this movie is obviously &amp;quot;inspired by a true story&amp;quot; even if it's not especially true. Most of the movie-going public knows that Hollywood &amp;quot;true&amp;quot; stories are highly fictionalized. [[User:EMorris|EMorris]] 13:13, 21 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Lives of Others==&lt;br /&gt;
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Where on earth is The Lives of Others? it is, surely, the best recent critique of Communism and, for that matter, one of the best films ''of any type'' released in the past five years. It certainly deserves a place ahead of, for example, the obscure Dark Matter. --[[User:Jdixon|Jdixon]] 12:13, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's in German, right, and about the former [[East Germany]]?  I'll add it on your recommendation, but I can't agree it ranks higher than the English-language Dark Matter, which speaks to today and not just the past.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:41, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Fair enough, Andy. Though I don't quite understand the argument against foreign-language films. If the issue is obscurity, The Lives of Others was seen by far more people in the US than Dark Matter. A glance at Box-Office Mojo confirms that Dark Matter took in a staggeringly tiny $30,591 on its domestic run. The Lives of Others took in $11,286,112 in the US (plus another $66 million in the rest of the world). I am, however, content to abide by your criteria. --[[User:Jdixon|Jdixon]] 15:40, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Oprah Winfrey's daytime talk show rakes in far higher revenues than both, but I'm not sure what that proves.  Dark Matter was apparently victimized and downplayed by liberals who finally figured out its conservative message, after it won first place in one of the Sundance Film Festival categories.  The liberal backlash against Dark Matter is particularly surprising given that Meryl Streep starred in it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:48, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::P.S. Your suggestion of &amp;quot;The Lives of Others&amp;quot; is a fine addition.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:02, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::No problem. Keep up the good work. --[[User:Jdixon|Jdixon]] 20:47, 28 November 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fiddler on the Roof? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A film celebrating the value of community, tradition, family, and faith, all against the historical context of the harm done by the rise of Communism in Russia...worthy of a spot on the list?  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 18:30, 6 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds good to me ... please add it as you think best!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:48, 6 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Gattaca ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A condemnation of genetic experiments on humans, and a wonderful triumph of individualism in an extremely controlled society. No matter how much scientists play to be God, and try to improve the human race by using genetics, there will always be an individual, based on original God design, who, despite his health shortcomings, will triumph over this genetically modified, supposedly perfect human beings. &lt;br /&gt;
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I don’t immediately put it on the list because the movie is a bit atheist. In the final scene, the hero finally managed to travel to space and cites the phrase: “They say every atom in our bodies was once a part of a star. So, maybe I'm not leaving, maybe I'm going home.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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So, I’ll say that the movie has a conservative message, unfortunately diluted with atheist overtones. I’ll wait for someone else opinion before posting this. --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 23:03, 10 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Feel free to post this with the caveat you mention.  Thanks for explaining it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:33, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::We talked about this movie at my fellowship a few months ago - pure hokum about a guy who might have been alright on his own but for a disgusting patriarchy forcing human engineering. I'll write this if AlejandroJ doesn't. [[User:NKeaton|Nate]] 00:51, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks, I posted it. --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 15:31, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disney cartoons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Most, and perhaps all, of the Disney cartoons for the past 15 or so years have pushed the [[feminist]] ideology.  I welcome any counterexamples, but doubt there are any.  Hence the reversion of the &amp;quot;Princess and the Frog (2009)&amp;quot; addition.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:31, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:''The Lion King'', a 1994 Disney movie, is definitely conservative. A main message of the movie is honoring thy father, and the power-hungry main antagonist, once he becomes ruler, favors big government, pushes [[liberal values]] and destroys their territory. I'll add it with your approval. [[User:DennyW66|DennyW66]] 15:45, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sounds like a good choice.  Please add and if anyone has a different view of the movie, then he can let us know.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:26, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Schlafly I would agree with your reversion of my contribution of the Princess and the Frog if that movie were feminist-ideology-promoting (like, for instance Mulan (1998)) but frankly, it is not a feminist movie. I am not a woman, nor a feminist - I am staunchly conservative. The Princess and the Frog promotes monogamous marriage (which feminism does not) as well as the other conservative values I listed (such as saving money, hard work, free enterprise etc).  In fact, the main character is so pro-marriage that she changes her licentious friend's behavior from debauchery (which feminism promotes) to monogamy. It is possibly the most conservative-value-laden animated movie I have ever seen.&lt;br /&gt;
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''The Lion King'' on the other hand promotes re-incarnation with its &amp;quot;Circle of Life&amp;quot; song. Jack, the hero of ''Titanic'' commits fornication and mocks a man reciting the 23rd Psalm; Cal, the main antagonist is depicted as a church-service-attending hypocrite. &lt;br /&gt;
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You are doubtless correct about the feminist ideology pushed by many Disney animations, but this is not one of them. I respectfully request that you consider returning my contribution of 'The Princess and the Frog'. [[User:Spotsbunch|Spotsbunch]] 23:17, 25 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I have to disagree with you about The Lion King. As far as I can interpret, &amp;quot;The Circle of Life&amp;quot; is either about the bond all humans share or the journey from life to death and the afterlife, not reincarnation. [[User:DennyW66|DennyW66]] 00:36, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Spotsbunch, I think you have a valid point about the Lion King, but from what I've heard about the &amp;quot;Princess and the Frog,&amp;quot; it's feminist claptrap with the woman wearing the pants and doing everything except having children and homeschooling her kids.  It's more Disney tripe about a successful businesswoman towing along an inept man, which is hardly typical in the real world.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:56, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Arguably, any movie where people turn into frogs, or where in Beauty and the Beast, people have transmogrified into furniture is not &amp;quot;real world&amp;quot;. Fantasies they may be, (like many movies listed here) but they are still conservative. I (finally) put it to your kind consideration that if you would watch the Princess and the Frog, you would find it contains less feminism and more conservativism than Beauty and the Beast. Whatever your judgment, I respect your decision and will refrain from further debate, even though I (thus far) disagree.  Kindest regards [[User:Spotsbunch|Spotsbunch]] 08:43, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::[[Feminism]] is unmistakable: it has women acting like men and vice-versa, contrary to reality.  Disney cartoons have been ''heavily'' feminist for at least 15 years.  ''Beauty and the Beast'', made 20 years ago, was not feminist in any way.  But having a &amp;quot;Princess&amp;quot; act like a businessman and aspire to run a restaurant is feminist.  What's next - Cinderella aspires to be a CEO of a Fortune 500 company???--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:10, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Is there any reason a woman can't run a restaurant or a fortune 500 company? No really, Andy, I want to know.  Why is it feminist to portray a woman doing anything but cooking, cleaning, and rearing children? [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 13:40, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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'''NASCAR''' is an [[acronym]] that stands for '''National Association for Stock Car Automobile Racing''', a sanctioning body for stock [[car]] racing in [[United States of America|America]] ranging all the way from local dirt track racing on up to the national Sprint Cup Series (as of the 2008 season, formerly the Winston Cup, and more recently, the Nextel Cup). NASCAR is currently developing the Sprint Cup Series into a major American [[sport]], along with taking their brand international with their second-tier series, the Nationwide Series (formerly the Busch Series). NASCAR still has strong roots in the American Southeast, which is its primary fanbase, but it is now considered a staple of American life.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
NASCAR was founded in 1948 by William &amp;quot;Bill&amp;quot; France Sr. in [[Daytona Beach]], [[Florida]], as a response to issues with the disorganized nature of stock car racing at the time. Over the next two-plus decades, France would successfully organize stock car racing into divisions, with the top one originally being known as &amp;quot;strictly stock&amp;quot;, for how the almost entirely all-American cars were not allowed to be modified. When that rule was relaxed later on, the top division was renamed the &amp;quot;Grand National&amp;quot;. Most races of the early days were run on short oval tracks of the American Southeast, although with some exceptions, notably Darlington Raceway in Darlington, [[South Carolina]] and then Daytona International Speedway in Daytona Beach, which became NASCAR's premier track in 1959 after replacing the actual sandy beach that had previously been used.&lt;br /&gt;
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As the sport grew, NASCAR underwent a transformation in the early 1970s. In 1970, NASCAR signed a title sponsorship deal with R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, renaming their top division the &amp;quot;Winston Cup&amp;quot; Series, and giving the title of Grand National to the second division. Two years later, Reynolds would push NASCAR into dropping all dirt tracks and races of under 100 miles. These moves marked the beginning of NASCAR's modern era, and would be key to NASCAR's growth into the top level of American motorsports. That growth would be accomplished without the sport's founder, though, as Bill France Sr. retired in 1970 and his son, Bill France Jr., replaced him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Over the next nearly three decades, NASCAR would grow steadily and would expand around the country. A good portion of its growth can be attributed to the success and popularity of its two great superstars, Richard Petty and then Dale Earnhardt. Combined, these two won a grand total of fourteen Winston Cup Series Championships, along with eight Daytona 500 titles, which had become the series' premier race at the beginning of each season. Into the 1990s, the days of the two superstars began to dwindle, which can partially be attributed to the now advanced development of the still all-American cars and the fact that most races were by then run on superspeedways around the country rather than Southeastern short tracks. Petty retired in 1992, while Earnhardt continued on into the new millennium before being tragically killed in a last-lap accident at the 2001 Daytona 500 that shocked the racing world and brought about further developments in driver safety on top of previous advances. By then, a new stock of talent had taken over the top NASCAR tier, which was renamed to the &amp;quot;NEXTEL Cup&amp;quot; in 2004 after NEXTEL Communications took over the title sponsorship from R.J. Reynolds. Top names of the new millennium came to be Jeff Gordon, who won four series titles after ironically making his debut in Petty's final race, and Dale Earnhardt Jr., the popular son of the late Dale Sr. that achieved success by winning the Daytona 500 in 2004.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the lower levels of NASCAR, Craftsman Tools sponsored a pickup-truck racing series starting in 1995.  The series has been hugely successful, especially in providing appeal back to the conservative American base. In the new millennium, the now-titled Nationwide Series expanded internationally with races in [[Mexico]] in 2005 and one in [[Canada]] in 2007. In addition to all its regular local racing series, NASCAR also began running national series in Canada and Mexico in 2007. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Racing Today==&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, the Sprint Cup runs a thirty-six race season, with forty-three cars participating in each. Most of the races are run on mid length oval tracks, but there also two races on road courses and two &amp;quot;restrictor place races&amp;quot; at tracks where the cars need to wear restrictor plates on their engines to slow down their high speeds, with one of these tracks being Daytona, the other Talladega. Top racers currently include the previously mentioned Jeff Gordon, and Dale Earnhardt Jr., along with Gordon's teammate, Jimmie Johnson, and former Indy racer Tony Stewart. The 2007 season saw the debut of the Sprint Cup series' first foreign carmaker in many years with [[Toyota]], who had previously run the Camping World Truck Series (formerly Craftsman Truck Series) for a few years before joining the ranks of [[General Motors|Chevrolet]], [[Ford Motor Company|Ford]], and [[Chrysler|Dodge]]. Additionally, NASCAR also began running the &amp;quot;Car of Tomorrow&amp;quot; that it had developed. This &amp;quot;Car of Tomorrow&amp;quot; has completely replaced the older car in the 2008 season (the older car running only in the Nationwide Series).&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
''The Wildest Ride: A History of NASCAR (or How a Bunch of Good Ol' Boys Built a Billion-Dollar Industry out of Wrecking Cars)'' by Joe Menzer&lt;br /&gt;
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== What I Believe ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm a conservative and a Christian.  &lt;br /&gt;
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I think that high taxes are a power grab to control people.  The same things that social programs achieve can be achieved cheaper and more efficiently through charity.  We wouldn't get ripped off by people who game the system by lying and by people who don't want to work.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Family is extremely important and I think that most child protection laws should be repealed.  I think that parents should have the freedom to teach their children whatever they please without retribution, unless of course it's hateful.  Even then, the government has no right to step in.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Public school should only teach math, writing, and reading.  They don't need the dozens of extra-curricular activities and sports that are tax-payer funded.  They don't even need the school buildings.  Education could be done completely online, with internet subsidized to people who can't afford broadband.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, I support the home-schooling alternative.  &lt;br /&gt;
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What I really want is for everyone to just get along. Peace on Earth. All of that good stuff. &lt;br /&gt;
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Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Thought crime</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Thought crime''' refers to a kind of crime which punishes a person's opinions. They are considered unconstitutional in the [[United States]] because they would openly violate the [[First Amendment]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This name was popularized by [[George Orwell]]'s [[Nineteen Eighty-Four]] novel.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thought crimes were commonly adopted in the [[Soviet Union]] and many other [[Communism|Communist]] countries. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Modern Day Thought Control ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, [[Europe]]an [[Liberal]]s are sometimes tempted with the introduction of laws punishing the expression of opinions, especially involving criticism of [[Homosexuality]].  American liberals likewise have to covertly control thought because the 1st amendment of the [[constitution]] prohibits restrictions on free speech.  To do this they exercise [[political correctness]], often indoctrinating students in [[public school]]s to feel bad about voicing any negative feelings against [[homosexual]]s, [[conservative]] values, etc.  Since prosecution is illegal, the students are taught instead to shun the dissenter as punishment for his &amp;quot;thought crime&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cases ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*French politician [[Christian Vanneste]] was fined by a court in [[Lille]] for saying that ''homosexuality was inferior to heterosexuality and that such practice would be ''perilous for humanity if it was pushed to the limit''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/724 Conservative MP Fined for Homophobia]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfbaytimes.com/index.php?article_id=6072&amp;amp;sec=article French MP Fined For Antigay Remark]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== What I Believe ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm a conservative and a Christian.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that higher taxes is literally a power grab and a way to control people.  The same things that social programs achieve can be achieved through charity cheaper and more efficiently.  We wouldn't get ripped off by people who game the system by lying and by people who don't want to work.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Family is extremely important and I think that most child protection laws should be repealed.  I think that parents should have the freedom to teach their children whatever they please without retribution, unless of course it's hateful.  Even then, the government has no right to step in.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Public school should only teach math, writing, and reading.  They don't need the dozens of extra-curricular activities and sports that are tax-payer funded.  They don't even need the school buildings.  Education could be done completely online, with internet subsidized to people who can't afford broadband.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Of course, I support the home-schooling alternative.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
What I really want is for everyone to just get along. Peace on Earth. All of that good stuff. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''&lt;br /&gt;
Psalm 34:14&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Turn from evil and do good; seek peace and pursue it.''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:American_Government_Final_Exam_2010&amp;diff=833798</id>
		<title>Talk:American Government Final Exam 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-12-22T23:16:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Top scores''':&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*40 out of 40&lt;br /&gt;
*39 (five papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*38 (three papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*37 (three papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*36 (two papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*35 (four papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*33 (four papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*32 (two papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*31&lt;br /&gt;
*30&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Post your answers here''':&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TeacherEd's answers:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. c&lt;br /&gt;
2. d&lt;br /&gt;
3. b&lt;br /&gt;
4. c&lt;br /&gt;
5. a&lt;br /&gt;
6. c&lt;br /&gt;
7. d&lt;br /&gt;
8. d&lt;br /&gt;
9. c&lt;br /&gt;
10. d&lt;br /&gt;
11. d&lt;br /&gt;
12. a&lt;br /&gt;
13. a&lt;br /&gt;
14. b&lt;br /&gt;
15. d&lt;br /&gt;
16. d&lt;br /&gt;
17. b&lt;br /&gt;
18. d&lt;br /&gt;
19. d&lt;br /&gt;
20. c&lt;br /&gt;
21. b&lt;br /&gt;
22. b&lt;br /&gt;
23. b&lt;br /&gt;
24. d&lt;br /&gt;
25. d&lt;br /&gt;
26. b&lt;br /&gt;
27. b&lt;br /&gt;
28. c&lt;br /&gt;
29. c&lt;br /&gt;
30. d&lt;br /&gt;
31. b&lt;br /&gt;
32. d&lt;br /&gt;
33. d&lt;br /&gt;
34. b&lt;br /&gt;
35. c&lt;br /&gt;
36. a&lt;br /&gt;
37. b&lt;br /&gt;
38. d&lt;br /&gt;
39. c&lt;br /&gt;
40. c&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
EC 1. c&lt;br /&gt;
EC 2 (boys). d&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:TeacherEd|TeacherEd]] 23:14, 17 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Terrific effort!  Will grade by Sunday.  If you have a perfect score, I don't want your grade to give away the answers yet!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:17, 17 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Great to see the grading is done - congratulations to all the top students! Will the answers be posted so I can check what I got wrong? --[[User:TeacherEd|TeacherEd]] 19:41, 21 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There are still another 6 to 8 students who have not emailed me their answers yet.  Sorry, but it is Christmastime so I'm being generous in allowing this.  Hey, I think I stumbled onto another conservative word: &amp;quot;Christmastime&amp;quot;.  Maybe it's time to add another 1-2-4-8 layer to [[Best New Conservative Words]]!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Terry B's answers:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. c&lt;br /&gt;
2. c&lt;br /&gt;
3. b&lt;br /&gt;
4. c&lt;br /&gt;
5. a&lt;br /&gt;
6. c&lt;br /&gt;
7. d&lt;br /&gt;
8. d&lt;br /&gt;
9. c&lt;br /&gt;
10. c&lt;br /&gt;
11. b&lt;br /&gt;
12. a&lt;br /&gt;
13. a&lt;br /&gt;
14. b&lt;br /&gt;
15. d&lt;br /&gt;
16. d&lt;br /&gt;
17. b&lt;br /&gt;
18. d&lt;br /&gt;
19. d&lt;br /&gt;
20. c&lt;br /&gt;
21. a&lt;br /&gt;
22. b&lt;br /&gt;
23. b&lt;br /&gt;
24. d&lt;br /&gt;
25. d&lt;br /&gt;
26. b&lt;br /&gt;
27. b&lt;br /&gt;
28. c&lt;br /&gt;
29. c&lt;br /&gt;
30. d&lt;br /&gt;
31. b&lt;br /&gt;
32. d&lt;br /&gt;
33. d&lt;br /&gt;
34. b&lt;br /&gt;
35. c &lt;br /&gt;
36. a&lt;br /&gt;
37. b&lt;br /&gt;
38. c&lt;br /&gt;
39. d&lt;br /&gt;
40. c&lt;br /&gt;
41. d is my best guess (hard question!)&lt;br /&gt;
boys 42. d&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fun exam, Mr. Schlafly! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 18:16, 22 December 2010 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:American_Government_Final_Exam_2010&amp;diff=833797</id>
		<title>Talk:American Government Final Exam 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-12-22T23:16:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Top scores''':&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*40 out of 40&lt;br /&gt;
*39 (five papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*38 (three papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*37 (three papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*36 (two papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*35 (four papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*33 (four papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*32 (two papers tied with this score)&lt;br /&gt;
*31&lt;br /&gt;
*30&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Post your answers here''':&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
TeacherEd's answers:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. c&lt;br /&gt;
2. d&lt;br /&gt;
3. b&lt;br /&gt;
4. c&lt;br /&gt;
5. a&lt;br /&gt;
6. c&lt;br /&gt;
7. d&lt;br /&gt;
8. d&lt;br /&gt;
9. c&lt;br /&gt;
10. d&lt;br /&gt;
11. d&lt;br /&gt;
12. a&lt;br /&gt;
13. a&lt;br /&gt;
14. b&lt;br /&gt;
15. d&lt;br /&gt;
16. d&lt;br /&gt;
17. b&lt;br /&gt;
18. d&lt;br /&gt;
19. d&lt;br /&gt;
20. c&lt;br /&gt;
21. b&lt;br /&gt;
22. b&lt;br /&gt;
23. b&lt;br /&gt;
24. d&lt;br /&gt;
25. d&lt;br /&gt;
26. b&lt;br /&gt;
27. b&lt;br /&gt;
28. c&lt;br /&gt;
29. c&lt;br /&gt;
30. d&lt;br /&gt;
31. b&lt;br /&gt;
32. d&lt;br /&gt;
33. d&lt;br /&gt;
34. b&lt;br /&gt;
35. c&lt;br /&gt;
36. a&lt;br /&gt;
37. b&lt;br /&gt;
38. d&lt;br /&gt;
39. c&lt;br /&gt;
40. c&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
EC 1. c&lt;br /&gt;
EC 2 (boys). d&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:TeacherEd|TeacherEd]] 23:14, 17 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
: Terrific effort!  Will grade by Sunday.  If you have a perfect score, I don't want your grade to give away the answers yet!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:17, 17 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:: Great to see the grading is done - congratulations to all the top students! Will the answers be posted so I can check what I got wrong? --[[User:TeacherEd|TeacherEd]] 19:41, 21 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::: There are still another 6 to 8 students who have not emailed me their answers yet.  Sorry, but it is Christmastime so I'm being generous in allowing this.  Hey, I think I stumbled onto another conservative word: &amp;quot;Christmastime&amp;quot;.  Maybe it's time to add another 1-2-4-8 layer to [[Best New Conservative Words]]!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:47, 21 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Terry B's answers:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
1. c&lt;br /&gt;
2. c&lt;br /&gt;
3. b&lt;br /&gt;
4. c&lt;br /&gt;
5. a&lt;br /&gt;
6. c&lt;br /&gt;
7. d&lt;br /&gt;
8. d&lt;br /&gt;
9. c&lt;br /&gt;
10. c&lt;br /&gt;
11. b&lt;br /&gt;
12. a&lt;br /&gt;
13. a&lt;br /&gt;
14. b&lt;br /&gt;
15. d&lt;br /&gt;
16. d&lt;br /&gt;
17. b&lt;br /&gt;
18. d&lt;br /&gt;
19. d&lt;br /&gt;
20. c&lt;br /&gt;
21. a&lt;br /&gt;
22. b&lt;br /&gt;
23. b&lt;br /&gt;
24. d&lt;br /&gt;
25. d&lt;br /&gt;
26. b&lt;br /&gt;
27. b&lt;br /&gt;
28. c&lt;br /&gt;
29. c&lt;br /&gt;
30. d&lt;br /&gt;
31. b&lt;br /&gt;
32. d&lt;br /&gt;
33. d&lt;br /&gt;
34. b&lt;br /&gt;
35. c &lt;br /&gt;
36. a&lt;br /&gt;
37. b&lt;br /&gt;
38. c&lt;br /&gt;
39. d&lt;br /&gt;
40. c&lt;br /&gt;
41. d is my best guess (hard question!)&lt;br /&gt;
boys 42. d&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fun exam, Mr. Schlafly!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:TerryB&amp;diff=832771</id>
		<title>User talk:TerryB</title>
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		<updated>2010-12-15T22:35:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{welcome|sig=&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:32, 13 May 2010 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
That was fast! and thank you. [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 21:33, 13 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Thanks for doing that reversion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Your vigilance is appreciated. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 20:47, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Absolutely.  Glad to help! [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 20:56, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed! Fast action, TerryB. :D  --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:23, 28 May 2010 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Think twice, perhaps three times..... ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Before undoing anyone's edit, TerryB.  You completely removed my post about the old soup, merely to parrot what I posted. That doesn't make me happy. --&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, 14 December 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:It was an accident.  I don't often edit on these sites, but I love to read them.  I didn't even know I did it.  Sorry.  [[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 17:35, 15 December 2010 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Am_Govt_Homework_One_Answers_-_Student_Three&amp;diff=816812</id>
		<title>Am Govt Homework One Answers - Student Three</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-04T15:33:35Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;1. List what you think are the top factors (e.g., jobs, handling of the wars, Tea Parties, media bias, government spending, education, or anything else) affecting the outcome of the election this November 2nd, and give relative &amp;quot;weights&amp;quot; to each according to your opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I believe that the state of the economy is the number one factor.  A lot of people, left and right, are worried about jobs.  The Democrats are perceived by groups such as the Tea Party to be directing the country in the opposite direction it needs to go.  Some Democrats are disgusted with what the liberal-majority congress is doing and are beginning to lean more right.  Therefore, I give the economy a 60%.  Needless government spending resulted in the formation of Tea Parties.  Their influence is gaining daily, despite all the media bias against them.  I give Government spending 20%, tea parties 15%, and media bias a 5%.    &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Identify the total numbers by political party in the House and Senate, before the election (e.g., the House consists of __ Democrats and __ Republicans, for a total of 435). Include the Independents in the Senate in the Democratic totals because they vote for the Democratic leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are 59 democrats and 41 republicans in the Senate. There are 253 Democrats and 178 Republicans in the House.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3. Is the President on the ballot this November? If not, then why not?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No he is not.  2010 is not divisible by four.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4. Using your answers questions 1 and 2 above and any other information, make a prediction of composition by political party of the House and Senate after Election Day. Explain briefly the basis of your predictions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I predict that republicans may take the senate and the house, but the odds are low.  I do believe that republicans will gain many more seats in the Senate and the House though.  People seem to be fed up with the way our country is headed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Extra credit:&lt;br /&gt;
5. What tactical change by either party between now and the election would cause you to change your prediction significantly?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Smear campaigns tend to turn people off.  Scandals in either party might affect the outcome.  The Republicans should push the jobs and deficit situations, and a solution for both.  Doing so in a smooth way would significantly improve their chances.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:TerryB|TerryB]] 11:33, 4 September 2010 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Am_Govt_Homework_One_Answers_-_Student_Three&amp;diff=816811</id>
		<title>Am Govt Homework One Answers - Student Three</title>
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		<updated>2010-09-04T15:33:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: Created page with '1. List what you think are the top factors (e.g., jobs, handling of the wars, Tea Parties, media bias, government spending, education, or anything else) affecting the outcome of …'&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;1. List what you think are the top factors (e.g., jobs, handling of the wars, Tea Parties, media bias, government spending, education, or anything else) affecting the outcome of the election this November 2nd, and give relative &amp;quot;weights&amp;quot; to each according to your opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I believe that the state of the economy is the number one factor.  A lot of people, left and right, are worried about jobs.  The Democrats are perceived by groups such as the Tea Party to be directing the country in the opposite direction it needs to go.  Some Democrats are disgusted with what the liberal-majority congress is doing and are beginning to lean more right.  Therefore, I give the economy a 60%.  Needless government spending resulted in the formation of Tea Parties.  Their influence is gaining daily, despite all the media bias against them.  I give Government spending 20%, tea parties 15%, and media bias a 5%.    &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
2. Identify the total numbers by political party in the House and Senate, before the election (e.g., the House consists of __ Democrats and __ Republicans, for a total of 435). Include the Independents in the Senate in the Democratic totals because they vote for the Democratic leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There are 59 democrats and 41 republicans in the Senate. There are 253 Democrats and 178 Republicans in the House.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
3. Is the President on the ballot this November? If not, then why not?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
No he is not.  2010 is not divisible by four.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
4. Using your answers questions 1 and 2 above and any other information, make a prediction of composition by political party of the House and Senate after Election Day. Explain briefly the basis of your predictions.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I predict that republicans may take the senate and the house, but the odds are low.  I do believe that republicans will gain many more seats in the Senate and the House though.  People seem to be fed up with the way our country is headed.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Extra credit:&lt;br /&gt;
5. What tactical change by either party between now and the election would cause you to change your prediction significantly?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Smear campaigns tend to turn people off.  Scandals in either party might affect the outcome.  The Republicans should push the jobs and deficit situations, and a solution for both.  Doing so in a smooth way would significantly improve their chances.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>TerryB</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:American_Government_Fall_2012&amp;diff=804938</id>
		<title>Conservapedia:American Government Fall 2012</title>
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		<updated>2010-08-12T22:46:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;TerryB: /* Enrollment */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;''The first lecture is being developed at [[Draft American Government Lecture One]].''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Enroll by inserting your user name into this file:  click &amp;quot;Edit this page&amp;quot; below, then position your cursor in the Enrollment section below, and then click 10th tab from the left above.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;American Government Fall 2010&amp;quot; is a 14-week course that teaches the basics of government, both federal and state. It covers the political process and operation of the U.S. government, and may be the most important course you will ever take.  It includes review of the U.S. Constitution, including concepts like the separation of powers among the branches of government.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Unlike other courses, this class will tie closely to current events and the lectures will be revised online and tailored to the most up-to-date available information'''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Students in this class will make predictions at three different points about the outcome of the midterm elections on November 2nd:  as the first homework assignment, after learning a month's worth of material, and just prior to the election.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Students seeking to earn college credit can take the CLEP or AP exams upon successful completion of this course.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This course begins September 2nd and already several dozen students have enrolled. Please add your user id. (as explained above) if you would like to participate in this course in any way, either as a student or as a teacher on this site. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The instructor is Andy Schlafly, who has taught over 15 courses, including one as an adjunct professor at a major law school.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Enrollment ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:39, 6 June 2010 (EDT) (instructor)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:MartinLXA|Martin Amrowski]] 13:11, 6 June 2010 (EDT) (student)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 15:04, 6 June 2010 (EDT) (student)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Beardude1963|Beardude1963]] 15:00, 7 June 2010 (EDT) (student)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:PNarcisse87|Paul Narcisse]] 13:02, 8 June 2010 (EDT) (student)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:FloM|Florencia Miguez]] (Student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:AJ4JQ|AJ4JQ]] 10:39, 10 June 2010 (EDT) (Student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--littlehouse (student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:OurFuture12|Daniel Bruski]] 10:07, 7 July 2010 (EDT) (Student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Jma|Jma]] 00:29, 9 July 2010 (EDT) (Student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:James1962|James]] 08:30, 9 July 2010 (EDT) (Student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--JohnnyZig (student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Israelgarza|Israelgarza]] 22:31, 16 July 2010 (EDT)israel garza  (student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--tallone&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:RMallett|RMallett]] 18:47, 8 August 2010 (EDT) (Student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--RianB (student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--TerryB (student)&lt;br /&gt;
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--running total of in-person enrollment: 38 (as of August 6, 2010)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Special concepts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This course will include many concepts not included in most run-of-the-mill government courses, such as:&lt;br /&gt;
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*the difference between politics and history, and the similarity between politics and team sports; impediments to teamwork and communication&lt;br /&gt;
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*political cycles&lt;br /&gt;
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*political factions, such as Big Labor, anti-war, pro-life, Second Amendment, etc.; interest groups and their scorecards and endorsements, such as the NRA and Elena Kagan and the effect on Harry Reid&lt;br /&gt;
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*Tea Party: the decentralized political party&lt;br /&gt;
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*declining role of newspapers, and increasing role of the internet&lt;br /&gt;
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*the effect of low voter turnout, discuss in the context of initiatives; effect of initiatives on candidates on the ballot&lt;br /&gt;
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*free speech and campaign finance&lt;br /&gt;
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*pending court cases concerning the structure of government&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[media bullying]] (e.g., post-election interviews for [[Rand Paul]]), media bias, [[double standard]]s in reporting news, effect of the bias in misleading the public&lt;br /&gt;
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*famous expressions and special vocabulary (as in sports):  &amp;quot;all politics is local,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!&amp;quot; &amp;quot;coattails&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;political capital,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;midterm elections,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;filibuster&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;voice vote,&amp;quot; (add more)&lt;br /&gt;
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*election process: various signature requirements to qualify for the ballot, use of convention rather than public elections in some areas, primary election, general election, concept of endorsements, term and qualifications for various offices&lt;br /&gt;
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*correlations of voting patterns by &amp;quot;voting blocs&amp;quot;; &amp;quot;single issue&amp;quot; voters&lt;br /&gt;
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*initiatives and referenda: how different states handle this differently, track record of various issues, effect on others on the ballot&lt;br /&gt;
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*polling, pollsters, and their impact (e.g., Scott Brown upset)&lt;br /&gt;
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*contrast the two-party system in America with multiple-party systems in other nations, how the power of political parties ebbs and flows with changes in campaign finance and the strength of interest groups like the NRA&lt;br /&gt;
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*elements of a political campaign, including who gets involved and why and how&lt;br /&gt;
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*the role of the Courts:  the &amp;quot;least dangerous branch,&amp;quot; or now the most powerful branch of government?&lt;br /&gt;
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*the U.S. Supreme Court, and how it accepts cases for review and its October through June annual Terms&lt;br /&gt;
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*administrative law, federal and state agencies, and the most cited U.S. Supreme Court decision: ''Chevron''&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;strict scrutiny,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;intermediate scrutiny,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;rational basis&amp;quot; as three levels for judicial review in civil rights&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[consumer confidence]] and the effect of the economy on elections&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[think tank]]s and their influence; example of Robert Rector's analysis of proposed immigration changes&lt;br /&gt;
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*the [[political benefit]] to a side from promoting a particular policy&lt;br /&gt;
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*the concept of &amp;quot;[[political capital]]&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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*commenting on proposed regulations&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[FOIA]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*line-item veto at state level, not at federal level&lt;br /&gt;
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*office of county commissioner, or [[freeholder]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*political asylum and example of homeschooling family that fled Germany to the U.S.&lt;br /&gt;
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*pundits, talking heads, talk radio, editorials, endorsements&lt;br /&gt;
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*Biblical basis for our three branches of government:  Isaiah 33:22 (&amp;quot;The LORD is our judge, the LORD our lawgiver, the LORD our king ....&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Interestingly, this verse is omitted entirely from the [[New American Bible]], and it is put in parentheses in the [[New Jerusalem Bible]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*role of internet news sources and bloggers; example: Shirley Sherrod firing.&lt;br /&gt;
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*swing state&lt;br /&gt;
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*trial balloon&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[safe seat]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*plurality vote, majority vote, [[cloture]], and two-thirds vote (supermajority)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The [[U.S. Supreme Court]] decision in ''Citizens United'', and the liberals' response with the [[DISCLOSE Act]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Presidential candidates, 2012]] and the political and social undercurrents associated with that contest&lt;br /&gt;
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== Homework questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Are politicians leaders or followers of the direction of the nation?  Does your answer vary depending on the political position?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Why is this a famous saying:  &amp;quot;All politics is local.&amp;quot;  Do you agree?&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;Politics is like icebergs:  90% is below the surface.&amp;quot;  Explain.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Why'' should it matter what the original meaning of the U.S. Constitution was?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Should legislative history be relevant to interpreting a statute?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Define conservative and liberal.  Do you think our nation is becoming more conservative, or more liberal?  Are the political cycles oscillating above and below a line that has positive or negative conservative slope?&lt;br /&gt;
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*Teaching more people how to read: that benefit one political side more than the other?  The oil spill in the Gulf: on which side that does that confer greater political benefit? (add more examples)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Was Jesus pro-life?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Order of presentation of topics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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American Government is typically taught in an historical manner.  This is disadvantageous for several reasons.  First, it's more tedious and less interesting with that approach.  Second, politics is not history.&lt;br /&gt;
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Suggested order of presentation:&lt;br /&gt;
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# The midterm elections; what it affects, and what it does not affect: [[Draft American Government Lecture One]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (birth name '''Barry Soetoro''',&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''When Barry Became Barack'', &lt;br /&gt;
By Richard Wolffe, Jessica Ramirez and Jeffrey Bartholet, NEWSWEEK, Mar 31, 2008&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.newsweek.com/id/128633/page/1]&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;&amp;quot;It didn't happen overnight. But in college, the young Barry took to being called by his formal name. What this evolution tells us about him.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/13056.htm] israelinsider. 14 August 2008. Accessed 23 January 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McGrew, Mark S. [http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/19-01-2009/106972-Barry_Soetoro-0 Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama vs World Leaders]. ''[[Pravda]].ru. 19 January 2009. Accessed 23 January 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; allegedly born in [[Honolulu]] August 4, 1961&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=82033]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu report]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/farber/Obama_birth_certificate/2009/04/06/200320.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama's [[African]] grandmother Sarah Hussein Obama says Barack was born in her presence in Kenya.[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2104131/posts Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes, Israeli News, October 12, 2008][http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78931 Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth, WND, October 23, 2008][http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b58_1225645143 Audio Conversation Link]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) is the 44th President of the [[United States]], and the first President who is biracial. He previously served less than four years as a first-term [[Democratic party|Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] (2005-2008). &lt;br /&gt;
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As President, Obama approved offshore oil drilling including the [[Gulf of Mexico]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0430/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-imperils-Obama-s-offshore-drilling-plan Gulf of Mexico oil spill imperils Obama's offshore drilling plan,] By Mark Clayton, ''Christian Science Monitor'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was slow to react to the &amp;quot;[[Gulf oil spill disaster|worst environmental disaster]] in US history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m4d29-Worst-environmental-disaster-in-US-history-Oil-slick-in-Gulf-of-Mexico-is-set-on-fire Worst environmental disaster in US history,] Maryann Tobin, ''Examiner'', April 29, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; While authorizing offshore drilling&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/the-oil-spill-is-obamas-fault/?src=twt&amp;amp;twt=NytimesKrugman Conscience of a Liberal: The Oil Spill Is Obama’s Fault,] Paul Krugman, ''New York Times'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; President Obama stated, &amp;quot;oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills.  They are technologically very advanced.  Even during [[Hurricane Katrina|Katrina]], the spills didn’t come from the oil rigs, they came from the refineries onshore,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;White House Press Release, [http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-a-discussion-jobs-and-economy-charlotte-north-carolina Remarks by the President in a Discussion on Jobs and the Economy in Charlotte, North Carolina,] Office of the Press Secretary, April 02, 2010. Retrieved from whitehouse.gov 3 May 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://members.greenpeace.org/blog/greenpeaceusa_blog/2010/04/30/president_obama_committed_to_endangering President Obama must reinstate moratorium on offshore drilling,]'' [[Greenpeace]] USA blogs, 30 Apr 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; a claim disputed by many environmental groups.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/04/28/obama-katrina-spill/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the &amp;quot;War on Terror&amp;quot; was abandoned during his first year in office the rate of terrorist attacks on the United States has gone from zero per year during George W. Bush's last year, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;During Bush's last year http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,335500,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to at least four.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nation-and-world/la-na-detroit-airline26-2009dec26,0,7673563,full.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/us/05explode.html?_r=1&amp;amp;ref=us&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/05/25/2009-05-25_small_bomb_goes_off_outside_upper_east_side_starbucks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/us/04recruit.html?_r=1&amp;amp;ref=us&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/20/us/politics/20hood.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Charles Chaput, the Catholic Archbishop of Denver, the city where Obama was nominated for president, criticized Obama as the &amp;quot;most committed&amp;quot; [[abortion]]-supporting candidate &amp;quot;since the ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' abortion decision in 1973.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14088&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make [[partial-birth abortion]] legal again.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama,] June 4, 2008.  Indeed, Obama was upset with the decision of the [[United States Supreme Court|Supreme Court]] not to strike down the law passed by the [[United States Congress]] to prohibit partial-birth abortion, believing that partial-birth abortion is guaranteed right of the [[United States Constitution|Constitution]] and that there should be no ability to legislate against it.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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== Presidency (2009-Present) ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Obama-6th-grade-teleprompter.jpg|right|250px|thumb|Obama speaks to sixth grade students utilizing teleprompters]]&lt;br /&gt;
:''Main article [[Obama Administration]]''&lt;br /&gt;
Upon being elected Obama pushed for establishing a Palestinian state over the objection of [[Israel]]'s Prime Minister,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.indianexpress.com/news/us-is-not-and-will-never-be-at-war-with-islam....-many-americans-have.../444572/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; inclusion of [[Turkey]] in the [[European Union]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6051268.ece&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and holding [[Guantanamo]] detainees indefinitely without trial.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/21/AR2009052104045.html Obama Endorses Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Some], Peter Finn, Washington Post, May 22, 2009. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Claimed by [[liberals]] to be a brilliant orator, Obama depends completely on reading from teleprompters when he talks, even in an elementary school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;President Barack Obama visited a sixth grade classroom in Falls Church, Virginia. What is particularly odd is Mr. Obama brought two teleprompters into the classroom along with the podium with the Presidential seal (video below).&amp;quot;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/jan/24/compare-obamas-teleprompters-classroom-moment-2006/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Obama administration was wracked by [[scandal]]s from its earliest days.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's budget and stimulus bill advanced his [[Socialism|socialist]] idea of &amp;quot;'''spreading the wealth'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.&amp;quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152008/news/politics/obama_fires_a_robin_hood_warning_shot_133685.htm OBAMA FIRES A 'ROBIN HOOD' WARNING SHOT], N.Y. Post &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John McCain quipped during the campaign, &amp;quot;He's running for Redistributor In Chief, I'm running for Commander In Chief.&amp;quot;[http://news.chennaionline.com/newsitem.aspx?NEWSID=9fab8324-a1a1-4ad6-840f-76b04a405a65&amp;amp;CATEGORYNAME=INTER McCain Attacks Obama's Faith in Americans] Fox News, 10-31-2008.  The slogan &amp;quot;from each according to their ability to each according to their need&amp;quot; is an idea originally proposed by [[Karl Marx]] and could be the inspiration for the centrally [[planned economy]] Obama plans to introduce to the US when he is installed into office.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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== Plunging approval ratings ==&lt;br /&gt;
:''Main article : [[Barack Obama approval ratings]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:800px-Beer summit cheers.jpg|thumb|right|350px|center|President Obama toasts Henry Louis Gates Jr.  The president told the nation at a prime time news conference Gates was a close personal friend. Gates is accredited with being the inspiration behind a 1999 apologetic entitled, ''Black Like Mao: Red China and Black Revolution.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccbh/souls/vol1no4/vol1num4art1.pdf ''Black Like Mao: Red China and Black Revolution''], Robin D.G. Kelley and Betsy Esche, ''Souls'' Volume 1, Number 4 Fall 1999, p. 39 in original (p. 34 pdf).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After Obama's first year in office his public approval ratings stood lower the [[George W. Bush]]'s did at the same point in the Bush presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jOXgdP1BoxXRqTf4yf3BSFn2sa1Q Obama popularity lower than Bush's at six-month mark: poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The growing perception of Obama's progressive [[socialism|far left]] agenda was marked after the &amp;quot;Gates flap,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/30/AR2009073004097.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Professor Henry Louis Gates Jr. of  [[Harvard]] was arrested on [[misdemeanor]] charges. Gates told the arresting officer, &amp;quot;Do you know who I am?&amp;quot;  Gates was a friend of Obama.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gretawire.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/07/23/police-and-president-obama/comment-page-2/?action=late-new&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When asked about the incident at a press conference, Obama charged the arresting officer with &amp;quot;acting stupidly.&amp;quot;  Polls shortly after revealed Obama's personal popularity and approval ratings declined significantly across the board, on every major subject and among all demographic groups.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://people-press.org/report/532/obamas-ratings-slide&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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A February 2010 Marist Poll showed for the first time since taking office, a majority of Independent registered voters - 57% - disapproved of his job performance with only 29% approving. 47% of registered voters nationwide report President Obama has fallen below their expectations. 42% say he has met their expectations while just 7% think he has exceeded them.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Marist Poll, [President Obama’s Approval Rating &amp;amp; The 2010 Midterm Elections], February 8, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Marist Poll reported &amp;quot;Democrats have become less positive toward Obama and Independents have become more negative.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Approval Ratings and Obama's Misplaced Priorities ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama’s approval rating for handling health care has fallen steadily since April 2009 led by a steep a 17-point slide among independents. An ''[[ABC News]]/[[Washington Post]]'' poll in August 2009 showed public doubt about [[health care reform]] with a rise in views the president's proposals would do more harm than good. Charlie Cook, a leading election analyst, compared Obama and his battle to push through his health care agenda to [[Moby Dick|Captain Ahab]] and his suicidal hunt for the great white [[whale]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7043884.ece&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Despite poll after poll showing that Americans’ main priority is jobs, President Obama focused on his health care plans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7043884.ece&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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On April 3, 2010, [[Newsmax]] reported concerning the recent passing of the [[ObamaCare]] legislation:[[File:Obama_total_approval_january_11_2010.jpg‎|thumb|left|300px|center]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|This healthcare thing apparently isn’t working out too well politically for President Barack Obama. His approval rating fell to a record low of 44 percent in the latest CBS News Poll.&lt;br /&gt;
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That compares to 49 percent in late March, just before the healthcare reform bill became law. His approval rating was 50 percent in January and 68 percent last April.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama does even worse on healthcare. Only 34 percent of respondents approve of his healthcare policy, down from 41 percent in late March, 40 percent in January and 49 percent in July.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/barack-obama-cbs-poll/2010/04/02/id/354651&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Barack Obama and American Conservatism Backlash ===&lt;br /&gt;
In October of 2009, Niles Gardiner reported in the [[Britain|British]] newspaper ''The Daily Telegraph'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|This week’s striking [[Gallup]] poll on political ideology is further confirmation that the United States is in essence a [[conservative]] nation, which has ironically become even more conservative under Barack Obama. According to Gallup, 40 percent of Americans describe their political views as conservative, 36 percent as moderate and 20 percent as liberal. This is the first time conservatives have outnumbered moderates in America since 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100014891/barack-obama-has-failed-to-defeat-conservatism-in-america/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barack Obama and United States Unemployment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''For more information please see'': [[Barack Obama and United States Unemployment]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The United States unemployment rate was 9.7% in February of 2010.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dsnews.com/articles/unemployment-rate-unchanged-at-97-2010-03-05&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, on March 5, 2010, MarketWatch reported concerning U.S. unemployment, &amp;quot;The U6 alternative gauge of the unemployment rate, which includes discouraged workers and those forced to work part-time, rose to 16.8% from 16.5%.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.marketwatch.com/story/payrolls-fall-36000-jobless-rate-steady-at-97-2010-03-05?reflink=MW_news_stmp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Kauffman Foundation study found that American entrepreneurs will limit hiring in 2010.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.gaebler.com/News/Small-Business-Finance/Entrepreneurs-will-limit-hiring-in-2010-19568840.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to the U.S. Small Business Administration, &amp;quot;Over a recent 15-year period, small businesses created some 65 percent of the net new jobs in the private sector.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sba.gov/advo/press/10-03.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On February 12, 2010, an [[American]] small business owner published a piece in the ''American Thinker'' critical of President [[Obama]] entitled, ''Dear Mr. President: Why We Are Not Hiring '' that was reflective of anti-[[Obama administration]] policy sentiment among many United States small business owners. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/dear_mr_president_why_we_are_n.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; American businessman William H Watson also wrote a piece critical of President Obama policies entitled, ''Why is Small Business Not Hiring?''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.goarticles.com/cgi-bin/showa.cgi?C=2509637&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Given that small business owners are among the most respected individuals in the United States with a 94% approval rating among the U.S. public, small business owners speaking out against President Obama's policies likely contributes to his plunging approval ratings among the United States public.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/business/general_business/september_2009/americans_now_view_congress_as_least_respected_job&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On March 6, 2010, a coalition of business people allied with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, announced they were going spend between 4-10 million dollars in ads criticizing ObamaCare.  The ads will be focused on how ObamaCare will hurt companies by adding additional taxes and requirements plus it will not control medical costs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-10/obama-s-health-care-push-gets-challenge-from-business-coalition.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Christian Science Monitor'' questions whether [[Obama]] is tough enough to help [[America]] break down foreign trade barriers which would create more American jobs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Commentary/the-monitors-view/2010/0311/Jobs-jobs-jobs-For-Obama-they-lie-in-more-exports&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Obama Policies and Return of Stagflation Concerns ===&lt;br /&gt;
In February of 2010, the ''[[Washington Times]]'' reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Prices rose 2.7 percent during 2009, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics' recent update of the Consumer Price Index (CPI). This is a worrisome fact because last year's unemployment rate averaged more than 9 percent. This trend may signal a return of &amp;quot;stagflation,&amp;quot; a merger of stagnation and [[inflation]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1970s, stagflation shocked traditional [[Keynesian economics|Keynesian]] economists, whose models said the economy could not suffer from both high unemployment and rapid inflation at the same time. Unfortunately, the Keynesians were wrong, because an economy obviously can experience both evils simultaneously...&lt;br /&gt;
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It seems every week the Obama administration announces some new tax or mandate that will further handicap businesses. Regardless of the official definitions of recession, the economy will remain sluggish for years to come. But if the [[Federal Reserve]] continues with its reckless policies, Americans will experience high inflation on top of high unemployment. As in the late 1970s, Americans will see that the pundits are wrong, because stagflation is very real.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/19/setting-the-stage-for-stagflation/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama Administration Health Care Plan and Its Advocacy Methods ==&lt;br /&gt;
:''Main article'': [[Obamacare]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senior citizens are key Democratic party constituents that could kill [[Socialized medicine|Obama's socialistic health care plan]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsImVGsFlmA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, President Obama falsely claimed that the senior citizen group [[AARP]] endorsed his administration's health care plan when they never made such an endorsement.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Zxf5ELaC4Q&amp;amp;feature=channel_page&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, Barack Obama's &amp;quot;Disinformation Czar&amp;quot; (whose supposed job was to correct disinformation that others are spreading about the Obama administration's health care plan) was recently caught spreading misleading information.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4HgDfNsH3M&amp;amp;feature=channel_page&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Skepticism is mounting concerning Obama's health care plan and Obama himself and the skepticism is growing for valid reasons.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.buffalonews.com/248/story/762324.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For example, the usually pro-Obama news organization the [[Associated Press]] recently published an article which was critical of Obama that was entitled ''FACT CHECK: Obama's health care claims adrift''?&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gayIiVSnEX8h2nbrvI2X4a9eo4qQD99K0NP00&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Association of American Physicians and Surgeons]] (AAPS) maintains there are no redeeming provisions of Obama's health care plan and offers a number of criticisms.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/00377&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The AAPS maintains that Obama's plan will significantly increase the overall cost of health care to the United States public plus reduce the quality of care that the system provides.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/00377&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Political analyst and commentator [[Dick Morris]] has asserted that Obama's health care plan will lead to the significant rationing of senior health care which will decrease the life span of senior citizens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsImVGsFlmA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Obama Administration Health Care Plan and Liberal Elitism ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:arrogant_obama.jpg|right|125px|thumbnail|Barack Obama ]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2007, when Obama was running for the office of President of the United States, he promised Americans &amp;quot;health care that is as good as the health care that I have as a member of Congress.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.emaxhealth.com/10/18430.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, recently when a newspaper reporter pressed Obama on whether he would commit to Americans having the same health care as congressmen, Obama repeatedly refused to commit to his previous promise of Americans having the same coverage as members of Congress.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvzLDb2igKM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  President Obama merely claimed Americans would have health care coverage that would &amp;quot;largely match up&amp;quot; with what members of Congress have.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvzLDb2igKM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  President Obama also stated he is constantly followed around by a personal physician.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvzLDb2igKM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Obama administration's [[Liberal Elite|liberal elitism]] is not unusual when it comes to health care.  For example, [[Belinda Stronach]], a former Member of the Canadian Parliament, chose to have a surgical treatment in the United States rather than be treated in Canada for her condition ([[Canada]] has a [[socialized medicine]] system of health care).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.dailymail.com/donsurber/2007/09/14/canadian-official-refuses-canadian-health-care/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's [[Socialized Medicine|health care plan]] forces individuals to purchase health care or pay fines and could force many into a poorly run single payer system.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The socialization of health care will force taxpayers to pay for healthcare for those who refuse to or can not afford to purchase it themselves.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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== Obamunism ==&lt;br /&gt;
:''Main article'' : [[Obamunism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:4135523219 e140763872 o.jpg|thumbnail|430px|A new study demonstrates Obama currently has dramatically fewer advisors who’ve made their living via the private sector than any other [[America]]n President in the last 108 years — since the turn of the 20th century when the business of America became business.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/12/01/obamas-achilles-heel/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.american.com/?p=7572&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]] &lt;br /&gt;
Critics of the Obama administration have coined the word &amp;quot;[[Obamunism]]&amp;quot; to describe Barack Obama's [[socialism|socialistic]] and &amp;quot;[[fascism]] light&amp;quot; [[economic planning]] policies ([[Benito Mussolini]] defined fascism as the wedding of state and corporate powers.  Accordingly, trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] labels [[Obama administration corporate bailouts|Obama's corporate bailouts]] as being &amp;quot;fascism light&amp;quot; in nature).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/daily-intel/2009/07/20/obamunism-inc&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.smallbusinessadvocate.com/small-business-interviews/gerald-celente-6944&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obamunism can also refer to Obama's [[Obama administration fiscal policy|ruinous fiscal policies]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|reckless monetary policies]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In February of 2010, Jim Rogers, the world renowned investor,  said concerning the [[Obama administration]]'s [[monetary policy]], that the [[European Union]], [[China|Chinese]], and [[Australia|Australian]] central bankers are more competent and honest than the [[Federal Reserve]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzTXaAXusiI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Furthermore, Mr. Rogers asserted that Federal Reserve Chairman [[Ben Bernanke]], whom President Obama re-appointed to be the Chairman of the Federal Reserve,  is &amp;quot;throwing gasoline on a fire&amp;quot; via his [[inflation|inflationary]] policies which are debasing the United States dollar.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzTXaAXusiI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Under President Obama the American government's share of the national gross domestic product has significantly increased.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kABRyZdQXGw&amp;amp;eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.breakingnews.com%2Fvideo%2Fdick-morris-obamas-waterloo&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wall Street]] firms and banks that were bailed out were among Obama's biggest campaign supporters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&amp;amp;cid=N00009638&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Therefore, the Obama administration bailouts of corrupt, unproductive, and reckless Wall Street firms was hardly surprising, although it certainly was not helpful in making the United States economy more productive and prosperous.  A 2005 study found that government corporate bailouts are often done for mere political considerations and the economic resources allocated exhibit significantly worse economic performance than resources allocated using purely business considerations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=676905&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Proponents of [[free market]] capitalism said Bernanke should not have bailed out failing firms and instead should have allowed free market capitalism to quickly recover as it did in the depression of 1920 without government intervention (free market capitalists assert that government intervention drags out economic recessions and depressions).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzTXaAXusiI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Top trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] predicts that the corrupt economic policies of the Obama administration will lead to a second [[Great Depression|great depression]] (Celente predicted the 1987 US stock market crash, the dot.com crash, the US 2008/2009 recession, and the collapse of the USSR in the early 1990s) and may lead to a &amp;quot;second [[American Revolution]]&amp;quot; (Celente predicted the [[Tea Party Movement|tax protests]] that are now occurring in America).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&amp;amp;feature=channel_page&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&amp;amp;feature=response_watch&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Celente also asserts that the costly and inefficient temporary short term methods that the Obama administration is using to alleviate economic problems in the short term (which is causing massive increases in [[Obama administration deficit spending]]) is only making matters worse and will not prevent the worse economic depression in United States history from occurring.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8K7rWkGGw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBffdIW0XA&amp;amp;feature=response_watch&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama administration has been sharply criticized for [[Obama administration deficit spending|its massive deficit spending]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|its reckless monetary policy]] via vast increases in the [[money supply]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Celente predicts that if a &amp;quot;second American Revolution&amp;quot; occurs in a peaceful and productive manner, it may include a [[Third Party System|third party movement]] of governance that will advocate a more [[free market]] [[capitalism]] approach to the American economy and a more strict interpretation of the [[United States Constitution|United States constitution]] as far as the authors' [[original intent]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&amp;amp;feature=channel_page&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&amp;amp;feature=response_watch&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:LarrySummers.jpg|thumb|right|200px|thumbnail|[[Larry Summers]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Larry Summers - Corrupt and Incompetent Chief Economic Advisor to Obama ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Lawrence Summers]] is the Director of the [[White House]]'s [[National Economic Council]] (NEC) for President Barack Obama. The NEC was established to advise the U.S. President on U.S. and global economic policy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/nec/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Larry Summers favored the bailouts of Wall Street firms and banks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/george/2009/02/obama-administr.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A government watchdog group reports the following conflicts of interest of Larry Summers:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Larry Summers, the director of the National Economic Council, ...continues to accept large speaking fees from bailed out banks.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Most of the companies paying Summers' speaking fees are found at top the list of contributors to politicians from both parties, leaving voters to wonder if there is anyone left who isn't in Wall Street's pocket.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.campaignmoney.org/blog/2009/04/06/larry-summers-speaking-fees-targeted-by-watchdogs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Washington Post]] reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Lawrence Summers, the chairman of President Obama's Council of Economic Advisers, collected roughly $5.2 million in compensation from hedge fund D.E. Shaw over the past year and was paid more than $2.7 million in speaking fees from several troubled Wall Street firms and other organizations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/04/03/summers_raked_in_speaking_fees.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the liberal publication [[The Nation]] declared concerning Obama's chief economic advisor Larry Summers:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In 1988, he was [[Michael Dukakis]]'s chief economic advisor, but when that campaign failed to bring Summers to power, he turned to America's great rival, the former [[Soviet Union]], to try out his economic experiments. In 1990, [[Lithuania]], a restive Soviet republic seeking independence, hired Summers to advise on that country's economic transformation. Poor Lithuania had no idea what it got itself into. This was Summers's first opportunity to tackle a country in economic crisis and put his wunderkind theories into practice. The results were literally suicidal: in 1990, when Summers first arrived, Lithuania's suicide rate was 26.1 per 100,000 and falling. Just five years after Summers got his hands on Lithuania's economy, life became so unbearable under the economic transition that the suicide rate nearly doubled to 45.6 per 100,000, worse than any other ex-Soviet republic in transition. In fact, it was the highest suicide rate in the world, suggesting something particularly harsh and brutal about the economic transition in that country as opposed to the others, where suffering and pain were common. Things got so bad that in 1992, after just two years of Summers-nomics, the traumatized Lithuanians voted the [[communism|communist]] party back into power, the first East European nation to do so--even though just a year earlier Lithuanians actually died on the streets fighting [[communism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Fresh off his success in Lithuania, Summers moved to the [[World Bank]], where he was named the chief economist in 1991, the year he issued his famous let's-pollute-Africa memo. It was also the year that Summers, and his [[Harvard]] protégé Andrei Schleifer (who worked with Summers on the Lithuania economic transformation), began their catastrophic &amp;quot;rescue&amp;quot; of Russia's crisis-ridden economy. It's a complicated story involving corruption, cronyism and economic devastation. But by the end of the 1990s, [[Russia]]'s [[GDP]] had collapsed by more than 60 percent, its population was suffering the worst death-to-birth ratio of any industrialized nation in the twentieth century, and the financial markets that Summers and Schleifer helped create had collapsed in what was then the world's biggest debt default ever. The result was the rise of [[Vladimir Putin]] and a national aversion to [[free market]]s and anything associated with Western liberalism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081124/ames&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Larry Summers and Leftist Economics ===&lt;br /&gt;
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George Gerald Reisman, Professor Emeritus of Economics at [[Pepperdine University]] and author of Capitalism: A Treatise on Economics, wrote that Summers socialistic ideas on redistributing wealth demonstrate that Summers is a &amp;quot;lightweight leftist&amp;quot; who &amp;quot;fails to understand the nature of the most essential feature of capitalism, namely, private ownership of the means of production and the indispensable role it plays in the standard of living of the average person.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.mises.org/archives/009031.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Reisman also wrote that Summers is a shallow and ignorant man whose knowledge of economics is minimal and whose evil views qualify him to be the economic advisor to [[Hugo Chavez]] of [[Venezuela]] or [[Robert Mugabe]] of [[Zimbabwe]], but do not qualify him to be an economic advisor to the President of the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.mises.org/archives/009031.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barack Obama and Liberal Elitism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has consistently shown himself to be a [[Liberal Elite|liberal elitist]] who looks down on &amp;quot;ordinary&amp;quot; Americans.  Asked while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary to explain why small-town [[Democrats]] did not support him, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;  When Obama made this remark he was alluding to small-town people who had experienced long periods of joblessness.  In response to predictable outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama did not recant his statement but instead replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although many rural counties went for McCain, Obama carried the state with 54.6% of the vote, compared to 44.3% for John McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&amp;amp;ElectionID=28&amp;amp;OfficeID=1]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In an attempt to counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim is at best an exaggeration, as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Obama's Charitable Giving===&lt;br /&gt;
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''For more information please see'': [[Barack Obama and uncharitableness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Poor-woman.jpg|right|thumb|300px|In the years 2000 through 2004, before becoming a United States Senator and being in the public spotlight, Obama gave less than 2% of his earnings to charity even though he made about $250,000 per year (In the years 2000 to 2002, Barack Obama gave less than 1% of his income to charity).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://patterico.com/2008/10/31/obama-and-bidens-charitable-giving-they-dont-want-to-spread-their-own-wealth-around/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://atangledweb.squarespace.com/httpatangledwebsquarespace/obamas-charitable-contributions.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For more information please see: [[Barack Obama and uncharitableness]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the years 2000 through 2004, before becoming a United States Senator and being in the public spotlight, Obama gave less than 2% of his earnings to charity even though he made $250,000 per year.  Since becoming a national figure, that amount has jumped to about 6%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://patterico.com/2008/10/31/obama-and-bidens-charitable-giving-they-dont-want-to-spread-their-own-wealth-around/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*2000: 0.9%&lt;br /&gt;
*2001: 0.5%&lt;br /&gt;
*2002: 0.4%&lt;br /&gt;
*2003: 1.4%&lt;br /&gt;
*2004: 1.2%&lt;br /&gt;
*2005: 4.7%&lt;br /&gt;
*2006: 6.1%&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://atangledweb.squarespace.com/httpatangledwebsquarespace/obamas-charitable-contributions.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's charitable giving pattern is not surprising given what we know about United States [[liberal]] politicians and charitable giving and also the charitable giving in the general population of liberals in the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c5_1238044128&amp;amp;c=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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''For more information please see'': [[Liberal politicians and uncharitableness]]&lt;br /&gt;
The political magazine the ''[[American Spectator]]'' declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The last two Democratic Party nominees for President have come up short on the charity scale. [[Al Gore]] has been famously stingy when it comes to actually giving his own money to charities. In 1998 he was embarrassed when his tax returns revealed that he gave just $353 to charity...&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator [[John Kerry]] likewise has a poor record. In 1995 he gave zero to charity, but did spend $500,000 to buy a half stake in a seventeenth century painting. In 1993, he gave $175 to the needy. Later, of course, Kerry married the rich widow Theresa Heinz, and today is active in charitable causes using the Heinz foundation as his vehicle...&lt;br /&gt;
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[Senator Ted] [[Ted Kennedy|Kennedy]]’s tax returns are obviously a closely guarded secret. But when he chose to run for President in the 1970s, he released some of them. With a net worth of more than $8 million in the early 1970s and an income of $461,444 from a series of family trusts, Senator Robin Hood gave barely 1 percent of his income to charity. The sum is about as much as Kennedy claimed as a write-off on his fifty-foot sailing sloop Curragh.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c5_1238044128&amp;amp;c=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberals and uncharitableness ===&lt;br /&gt;
''For more information please see'': [[Liberals and uncharitableness]]&lt;br /&gt;
In March of 2008, [[George Will]] cited a study by Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at [[Syracuse University]], which indicated that American liberal households earn more than conservative American households but give less to charity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition American conservatives donate more time and given more blood than American liberals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Barack Obama's Brother George Obama and Poverty ===&lt;br /&gt;
In August of 2008 the NY Daily News reported the following concerning Obama and his half-brother [[George Obama]]:&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Barack Obamas Brother in Bengo-002.jpg|right|thumb|200px|[[George Obama]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Barack Obama wants to live in the White House - but his youngest half-brother lives in the poorhouse.&lt;br /&gt;
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George Obama, one of the candidate's seven living half-siblings, lives on pennies a month in a hut in Africa, the Italian edition of Vanity Fair revealed.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;No one knows who I am,&amp;quot; George Obama, 26, told the magazine. &amp;quot;I live like a recluse, no one knows I exist.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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He lives on the outskirts of Nairobi in a 65-square-foot shack decorated with posters of the Italian soccer clubs AC Milan and Inter, and a calendar of beaches.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;I live here on less than a dollar a month,&amp;quot; he said....&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/20/2008-08-20_barack_obamas_povertystricken_halfbrothe.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A spokesman for Barack Obama declined repeated requests for comment yesterday.&lt;br /&gt;
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George Obama said he met his famous brother as a 5-year-old, and again in 2006 when Obama toured East Africa and visited Nairobi.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It was very brief - we spoke for just a few minutes,&amp;quot; he said.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2008/08/20/2008-08-20_barack_obamas_povertystricken_halfbrothe.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:KenyaSlumR 468x301.jpg|right|200px|thumbnail|[[George Obama]]'s neighborhood]]&lt;br /&gt;
In September of 2008, [[National Review]] featured an article by [[Dinesh D'Souza]] which declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|George Obama’s shack measures six feet by ten feet, and yet he says that Barack Obama has done nothing to reach out to him or to help him. “I live like a recluse. If anyone says something about my surname, I say we are not related. I am ashamed.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTk1OTc2ZGVlNjg2NmU1YTlkMGJjZjk5OGEzMzIxYjA=&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A critic of Barack Obama's uncharitableness towards his brother wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Well, they say charity begins at home, but it hasn't apparently in this case. Hearing about what George is going through, you can't help but wonder why his brother Barack won't send the guy $20? I mean it would double his annual income.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zimbio.com/George+Hussein+Onyango+Obama/articles/3/George+Obama+Barack+Obama+Brother+Fights+Life&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked by Harry Smith from CBS about Obama leaving the campaign to visit his ailing grandmother, Obama replied, &amp;quot;Yeah, well, the -- I think most people understand that if you're not caring for your family, then you're probably not the kind of person who's going to be caring for other people.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2008/10/23/cbs-s-smith-compares-obama-lincoln-obama-attacks-hannity CBS’s Smith Compares Obama to Lincoln; Obama Attacks Hannity] NewsBusters.org, October 23, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Barack Obama's Treatment of George Obama and Barack Obama's Inaugural Speech ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama's treatment of George Obama is particularly ironic and hypocritical given Barack Obama's inaugural speech.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama declared in his inaugural speech:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|To the people of poor nations, we pledge to work alongside you to make your farms flourish and let clean waters flow; to nourish starved bodies and feed hungry minds. And to those nations like ours that enjoy relative plenty, we say we can no longer afford indifference to the suffering outside our borders; nor can we consume the world's resources without regard to effect. For the world has changed, and we must change with it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uk.oneworld.net/guides/guidesweek/obama-inauguration-speech-world-poverty&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CharlesDarwin.jpg|thumb|125px|right|[[Charles Darwin]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Barack Obama's Uncharitableness/Liberal Elitism and Social Darwinism ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also'': [[Social effects of the theory of evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Barack Obama and uncharitableness|Barack Obama's recent pattern of charitable giving]] and [[Barack Obama and liberal elitism|Barack Obama's liberal elitism]] is consistent with Obama being a [[Narcissism|narcissist]] which is a charge that has often been made against Barack Obama.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/obama_oprah_and_the_guru_malig_1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, it is also true that Barack Obama is an [[evolution|evolutionist]].  Barack Obama told the ''York Daily Record'' that &amp;quot;I believe in [[evolution]]...&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1999910/posts&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Barack Obama's recent pattern of charitable giving and liberal elitism is also in accordance with someone who has a certain degree of [[Social Darwinism|social darwinistic]] thinking.  In addition to [[Liberals and uncharitableness|American liberals giving less to charity]], it is also true that [[Theory of evolution and liberalism|American liberals are also more likely to believe in evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Michelle Obama and Liberal Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Michelle Obama and Patient Dumping Allegations ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Michelle Malkin]] and others allege that [[Michelle Obama]] created a [[Patient dumping|patient dumping]] scheme for a Chicago health care facility.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80YK2o3kq0E&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/michelle_obamas_patientdumping_1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/23/video-did-michelle-obama-start-a-patient-dumping-program/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In March of 2009, the ''[[American Thinker]]'' wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Substantial coverage was given to a recent indictment of the program by the American College of Emergency Physicians. ACEP's president, Dr. Nick Jouriles, released a statement suggesting that the initiative comes &amp;quot;dangerously close to ‘patient dumping,' a practice made illegal by the Emergency Medical Labor and Treatment Act, and reflected an effort to ‘cherry pick' wealthy patients over poor.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/03/michelle_obamas_patientdumping_1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Michelle Obama and Food Bank Incident ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Obama_Michelle.jpg|right|thumb|[[Michelle Obama]] is reported to have worn $540 shoes to a food bank.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/michelle-obama-wears-silv_n_193138.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://christwire.org/2009/05/michelle-obama-makes-fun-of-homeless-by-wearing-540-shoes-to-a-food-bank/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In May of 2008, the following was reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|[[Michelle Obama]] continued to flaunt her money recently, as she made fun of homeless people by wearing $540 shoes to a food bank.&lt;br /&gt;
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What a sick day and age we live in when millionaires endlessly gallivant around the globe in their jets and fancy clothes, but still make sure to remind the poor of just how little they have in pocket.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just more proof of how the liberal elite live these extravagant lives and are not in touch with us common people. We do all the hard work of fighting wars and building up this country, while they enjoy the fruits of our labor and control all the wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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My stomach churns with disgust because of these types of liberal antics and disregard for human life. For just about $5 a day, you can feed a starving child in Africa. With $540, Michelle Obama could by a struggling American family a month’s worth of groceries.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://christwire.org/2009/05/michelle-obama-makes-fun-of-homeless-by-wearing-540-shoes-to-a-food-bank/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/29/michelle-obama-wears-silv_n_193138.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Powerline]] offers the following criticism of Michelle Obama:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|She says that she and Barack were born to parents of modest means, not with &amp;quot;silver spoons&amp;quot; in their mouths. Nobody knows the trouble they've seen. The burden of paying for her undergraduate education at [[Princeton]] and her law school education at [[Harvard]] has scarred her. It remains a motif of her stump speech. No one is accorded a chance to ask her if she thought about attending the University of Illinois, or if she's grateful for any of the financial assistance that facilitated her and her husband's attendance at the finest institutions of higher learning in the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2008/05/020456.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Various Political Policies and Actions of Barack Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
===Enemies list===&lt;br /&gt;
In July 2009 suspicions arose over reports the Obama administration was creating a network&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27655039/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of domestic informants and began compiling an enemies list.  In a letter to President Obama, U.S. Sen. [[John Cornyn]], R-Texas, expressed serious concern about the White House's new program requesting Americans to forward email chains and other communications opposing the President's [[health care reform]] policies. Sen. Cornyn asked for assurances that the program was being carried out in a manner consistent with the [[First Amendment]] and America's tradition of [[free speech]] and public discourse. &lt;br /&gt;
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Sen. Cornyn's letter also inquired about the collection of names, email addresses, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens that informants report, and raises the specter of a data collection program.&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed ‘fishy' or otherwise inimical to the White House's political interests. You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program.  As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of [[free speech]] rights.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cornyn.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=ForPress.NewsReleases&amp;amp;ContentRecord_id=ebc2c77d-802a-23ad-4ae4-6ccf4c7a255c&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Maria-and-Che.jpg|thumb|right|275px|A community organizer poses in front of [[mass murder]]er [[Che Guevara]] poster during the 2008 campaign; [http://patterico.com/2009/08/14/roxana-mayer-invited-to-town-hall-by-obama-organizer-who-sported-che-guevara-poster-at-obama-campaign-office/] the same community organizer [http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/4r9wf] falsely represented herself as a physician during a Townhall meeting on [[healthcare reform]] in 2009. &lt;br /&gt;
[http://beltwayblips.dailyradar.com/story/roxana_mayer_im_not_a_doctor_but_i_play_one_at_town/] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Congressman Darrell Issa also expressed grave concern about the administration blurring the lines between political and official business by collecting data on administration critics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=8352544&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Health care disinformation ===&lt;br /&gt;
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A webpage at whitehouse.gov entitled &amp;quot;Reality Check&amp;quot; claims that the president's program &amp;quot;would be fully paid for over 10 years, and it would not add one penny to the deficit.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/faq&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The [[CBO]] is mandated to prepare cost estimates and to show how individual legislative proposals would change spending or revenue levels under current law.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbo.gov/aboutcbo/budgetprocess.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A July 15 2009 letter from the CBO made this assessment, &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|enacting the proposal would result in a net increase in the federal budget deficits of about $1.0 trillion over the 2010-2019 period.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/103xx/doc10310/06-15-HealthChoicesAct.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=52306&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== ACORN scandals ===&lt;br /&gt;
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::''Main article : [[ACORN]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Madeleine Talbot, a leader of the Chicago Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN), was arrested along with ACORN members while pursuing direct action against the Chicago City Council.  Talbot hired Obama to train her staff in organizing techniques. From 1992 to 2004, Obama ran leadership training sessions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.socialpolicy.org/index.php?id=838 Case Study: Chicago-The Barack Obama Campaign], By Toni Foulkes, ''Social Policy'', Winter 2003, Vol. 34, No. 2 Spring 2004, Vol. 34, No. 3.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to the ''Chicago Daily Herald'', Acorn demonstrators pushed over the metal detector and table used to screen visitors, backed police against the doors to the council chamber, and blocked late-arriving aldermen and city staff from entering the session.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:1223acorn.jpg|thumb|241px|left|'''Obama was lead attorney for ACORN Housing prior to the subprime mortgage crisis''' and has extensive experience with the groups &amp;quot;community organizing&amp;quot; tactics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMQ20wNhB_M&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ACORN has been accused of voter fraud, facilitating tax fraud, human trafficking, and child prostitution.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1994 Obama represented ACORN in the ''Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank'' suit against redlining.  ACORN was the driving force&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the [[Clinton Administration]] that greatly expanded the [[Community Redevelopment Act]] (CRA).  Obama represented ACORN before Clinton administration regulators in this effort. With the new regulations, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, and the threat of lawsuits under fair housing laws, to induce lenders to expand subprime lending, or so-called &amp;quot;toxic assets.&amp;quot; A 2007 report by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis notes 50% of all subprime mortgages were in predominantly minority census tracks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/review/06/01/ChomPennCross.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the weeks leading up to the [[2008 Presidential election]], [[MSNBC]] reported the [[FBI]] was looking into ACORN voter fraud in several states.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27220798/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's staff worked to delay investigations into Obama's former employer.  In this way, hundreds of thousands, if not many more, votes may have been overcounted. [http://www.onenewsnow.com/Election2008/Default.aspx?id=297446]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political views of Barack Obama==&lt;br /&gt;
:''For the full article see [[Political positions of Barack Obama]]''&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's positions have been described as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1753197/posts&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On numerous occasions Obama community organizers have been found flaunting banners of [[Marxist]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[guerrilla]] and [[murder]]er [[Che Guevara]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/02/obama_workers_c.html Obama Workers' Che Guevara Poster Was No Fluke] from Moonbattery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Former presidential candidate [[Alan Keyes]] calls Obama a &amp;quot;radical communist.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/keyes_obama_destroy_US/2009/02/23/184503.html Alan Keyes: Obama Will Destroy U.S.] NewsMax, February 23, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Maoism ===&lt;br /&gt;
A deep strain of Maoist thought has pervaded Barack Obama's influences throughout his life and has persisted in appointments he has made while serving as President.&lt;br /&gt;
*The ''[[Koji_Ariyoshi#The_Honolulu_Record|Honolulu Record]]'', the newspaper Obama's mentor [[Frank Marshall Davis]] wrote for was accused of Maoist [[deviationism]] during the [[Sino-Soviet split]] by its CPUSA overlords.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.archive.org/stream/scopeofsovietact411956unit#page/n248/mode/1up Scope of Soviet activity in the United States.] Hearing before the Subcommittee to Investigate the Administration of the Internal Security Act and Other Internal Security Laws of the Committee on the Judiciary, United States Senate, Eighty-fourth Congress, second session - Eighty-fifth Congress, first session. Washington, U.S. Govt. Print. Off. (1956), [http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Scope_of_Soviet_Activity.pdf p. 2865 (p. 14 pdf).]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama fundraiser, personal friend, and past employer Professor [[William Ayers]]' teaching curricula relies heavily on material that use Mao Zedong, Josef Stalin, Vladimir Lenin, and Fidel Castro as authoritative sources.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.academia.org/bill-ayers-unmasked/ Bill Ayers Unmasked,] Bethany Stotts, August 25, 2009, Accuracy in Academia.  Retrieved February 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers has been a committed Maoist since at least 1969.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foreign Influence - Weather Underground Organization (WUO). FBI Chicago Field Office Report, August 20, 1976. Section I. Ideology D. [http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1b.pdf ''Influence of Marxism-Leninism-Mao Tse-tung Thought'',] Pages 55-62 in original (pp. 18-25 pdf).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers is said to have ghost written part of Barack Obama's autobiography, ''Dreams From My Father.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm, ''Who Wrote “Dreams From My Father&amp;quot;?'',] by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers was a leader in the [[SDS]]'s Maoist &amp;quot;Action Faction&amp;quot; which became the [[Weather Underground]] (WUO). Ayers, [[Jeff Jones]], and [[Mark Rudd]] of [[Progressives for Obama]] paid homage to [[Anna Louise Strong]], author of the ''The Thought of Mao Tse-tung,''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://openlibrary.org/b/OL16335649M/thought_of_Mao_Tse-Tung ''The thought of Mao Tse-Tung,''] Anna Louise Strong, Published in 1947, ''[[Amerasia]]'' (New York).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; after purging deviationist elements from the SDS leadership in 1969.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foreign Influence - Weather Underground Organization (WUO). FBI Chicago Field Office Report, August 20, 1976, [http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1c.pdf ''Influence of China''], Pages 144-145 in original (pp. 32-33 pdf).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Ayers wife, former FBI Top Ten Most Wanted terrorist [[Bernardine Dohrn]] worked in the Law Firm of Sidley Austin&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Of the nearly $700 million dollars Barack Obama raised in 2008 to run for President, Sidley Austin was the 9th largest donor to the campaign. [http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&amp;amp;cid=n00009638 Barack Obama (D) Top Contributors',] Center For Responsive Politics. Retrieved from opensecrets.org, March 2, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in the late 1980s where Barack, Michelle Obama, and Dohrn first met. Dohrn participated in the purging of [[CPUSA]] elements from SDS leadership and declared the SDS National Office was henceforth responsible for the correct Marxist-Leninist line at the exclusion of non-Maoist [[deviationist]] forces. Dohrn held the position of Inter-Organizational Secretary in the SDS National Office. The Ayers/Dohrn faction of SDS formed the Weather Underground Organization. SDS Regional [[Community organizing|Community Organizer]] [[David Gilbert]] declared  violent [[Third World]] revolution was the only way to achieve &amp;quot;world communism,&amp;quot; the goal of WUO.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foreign Influence - Weather Underground Organization (WUO). [http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath2a.pdf FBI Chicago Field Office Report,] August 20, 1976. Page 202 in original (p. 17 pdf).  Gilbert reiterated the WUO's founding statement from [http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf ''You Don't Need A Weatherman To Know Which Way The Wind Blows,''] ''New Left Notes,'' June 18, 1969, reprinted in the Chicago Field Office Report, Section I. Ideology.  A. Major Political Statements, pp. 6-15 original (pp. 39-48 pdf), which reads in part, &amp;quot;The goal is the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world:  world communism.  Winning state power in the US will occur as a result of the military forces of the US overextending themselves around the world...&amp;quot; (p.41 pdf).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:O-2002-antiwar-rally-davidson.jpg|left|thumb|250px| Obama speaking at the October 2002 anti-war rally in Chicago organized by Carl Davidson. Davidson is a longtime Maoist and champion of the ''Thought of Mao Tse Tung.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Davidson's anti-Trotskyite polemic, [http://www.wengewang.org/read.php?tid=10925 ''Left in Form, Right in Essence''] defends Maoist doctrine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Retrieved from 对当代托洛茨基主义的批判：英文论集百花齐放 - 中国文革研究网, March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*SDS veteran and [[Progressives for Obama]] webmaster&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.linkedin.com/in/carldavidson Carl Davidson,] LinkedIn.com, retrieved March 13, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Carl Davidson]] first met Barack Obama through the Chicago [[New Party]], whose endorsement and campaign workers Obama sought and accepted in his run for the Illinois state senate in 1996. Davidson organized the October 2002 rally at Federal Plaza in Chicago&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The rally was organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq (CAWI) later renamed Chicagoans Against War and Injustice. [http://www.noiraqwar-chicago.org/?page_id=2 About CAWI] by Carl Davidson, Nov 02 2006. Retrieved from Chicagoans Against War and Injustice, March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; where Obama established himself as an eloquent anti-war spokesman. Davidson was a leading member of the October League (OL) and the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist), or CP(M-L),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://archives.econ.utah.edu/archives/pen-l/2005w11/msg00045.htm Reply to Carl Davidson], 15 Mar 2005. Progressive Economists Network List (PEN-L) Internet discussion. The poster states, &amp;quot;Any investigation of the 1970s will reveal that the &amp;quot;New Communist Movement&amp;quot; evolved more than less outside the Soviet ideological polarity, with many clinging to their particular conception of ''Mao Ze Tung Thought.'' During the 1973-1975 period Mr. Davidson did conduct polemics against [[Trotsky]]ism in the pages of the [[Guardian (NY)|Guardian]] and this is perhaps the reason for the current continuing dispute. At that time I was a member of the Communist League in Detroit and Mr. Davidson was a leading member of the October League which sided with the China polarity in the &amp;quot;Sino-Soviet&amp;quot; split rather than taking marching orders from the [[Kremlin]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which was hailed by [[Chinese Communist Party]] chairman [[Hua Guofeng]] at banquet for CP(M-L) leaders in [[Beijing]] in 1977 as the semi-official Maoist party in the United States.  Hua Guofeng declared the founding of the CP(ML) a “new victory of the [[Marxist-Leninist]] Movement in the U.S.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.revolutionintheair.com/chron/chron4.html Chronology of Political Events, Part Four 1975-1980.] Max Elbaum. Retrieved from Revolution In The Air: Sixties Radicals Turn to Lenin, Mao and Che, March 16, 2010. Exerpted:&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''1977-''' June 4-5: October League holds founding convention of Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist) - CP(ML); [[Mike Klonsky]] is chair... &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;August 12-18: Eleventh Congress of the [[Chinese Communist Party]]. Mao and the [[Cultural Revolution]] are given positive assessments but the Congress officially declares the Cultural Revolution ended. That same month, CPC chair [[Hua Guofeng]] and U.S. CP(M-L) chair Mike Klonsky exchange toasts at banquet for CP(M-L) leaders in [[Beijing]]; this is effective recognition of the CP(M-L) as the semi-official pro-China party in the U.S. The June founding of the CP(ML) had been hailed by a top CPC leader as a “new victory of the [[Marxist-Leninist]] Movement in the U.S.”...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''1979-''' Beginning of crisis and collapse of CP(ML)... In early 1979 there was also a trip to [[China]] by representatives of CP(ML), LRS, RWH, PUL, BACU and other “pro-China” collectives as part of the efforts to build unity among all those who supported the [[CCP|CPC]] and the Three Worlds Theory, but the Chinese do not press the groups to unite although they effectively withdraw the idea (as does CP(ML) itself) that the CP(ML) is “the” party in the U.S...&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''[[U.S. Peace Council]]''', with CP activists in pivotal positions, is founded... &amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Davidson is a longtime supporter of the [[VVAW]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.vvaw.org/veteran/article/?id=412 VVAW Letter of Support,] ''The Veteran'', Spring 2004 (Volume 34, Number 1).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; whose chief spokesman [[John Kerry]] charged American servicemen with [[war crimes]]. The VVAW worked in collusion with [[North Vietnam]] and the [[Vietcong]] to organize a domestic insugency&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=vcdirective Directive on the American Antiwar Movement] captured by US military forces in South Vietnam on May 12, 1972, is a communist Directive designed to motivate discussions within Vietnam about promoting the ongoing antiwar activities in the United States. &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;The fifth paragraph of this document makes clear that the Vietnamese communists were utilizing for their [[propaganda]] purposes the activities of the [[Vietnam Veterans Against the War]]. The protest described as occurring from April 19 through April 22, 1971 coincides directly with the dates of Dewey Canyon III, the Washington, DC, protest led by John Kerry, during which John Kerry's testimony before Senator Fulbright's Foreign Relations Committee was a televised centerpiece. The description of the protest activities in the Directive even include the &amp;quot;return their medals&amp;quot; ceremony in which John Kerry and other VVAW members threw their medals and/or ribbons toward the steps of the US Capitol, with several shouting threats of violence against their government as they did so.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;Retrieved from www.wintersoldier.com, March 16, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the defeat of the United States in [[Vietnam]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wintersoldier.com/staticpages/index.php?page=puppets ''John Kerry and the VVAW: Hanoi's American Puppets?] Newly discovered documents link Vietnam Veterans Against the War to Vietnamese communists,'' Jerome R. Corsi and Scott Swett. Retrieved from www.wintersoldier.com, March 16, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2004 Davidson said, &amp;quot;the U.S government, at least over the past 50 years, has been the chief terrorist and sponsor of terrorism in the world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.zcommunications.org/the-2004-elections-by-carl-davidson ''The 2004 Elections'',] Carl Davidson, May 20, 2004. Retrieved from zcommunications.org, Marfch 18, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[ACORN]] founder Wade Rathke was an alumni of the Maoist dominated [[Students for a Democratic Society]] (SDS).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.americanthinker.com/printpage/?url=http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/11/a_tale_of_two_community_organi.html ''A Tale of Two Community Organizers,''] Elinor Lynn Warner, American Thinker, November 19, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama told ACORN &amp;quot;during the transition, we're going to be calling all of you in to help us shape the agenda. We're going to be having meetings all across the country with community organizations so that you have input into the agenda for the next presidency of the United States of America.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=110131 ''Unearthed! Obama's twisted ACORN roots'',] Chelsea Schilling, ''WorldNetDaily'', Track timeline of president's ties to group immersed in scandals, September 18, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama Car Czar [[Ron Bloom]] declared himself in agreement with Chairman Mao and referred to the free market system as &amp;quot;nonsense.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.breitbart.tv/obama-czar-agrees-with-mao-too-and-thinks-free-market-is-nonsense/ Speech delivered to the 6th Annual Distressed Investing Forum Union Club], New York, February 27-28, 2008, BriebartTV, Retrieved February 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Shepard-Fairey-imgs.JPG|right|thumb|250px|Shepard Fairey, designer of the official Obama hope and change logo, is more known for his anti-American and pro-communist themes. Here a  Maoist  revolutionary is depicted. [http://images.google.com/images?um=1&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-ContextMenu&amp;amp;rlz=1I7ACAW_en___US352&amp;amp;tbs=isch:1&amp;amp;q=Shepard+Fairey&amp;amp;sa=N&amp;amp;start=40&amp;amp;ndsp=20] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama appointee [[Van Jones]] was a founder&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://machete408.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/revolutionaries-in-high-places-van-jones/ Revolutionaries in High Places- Van Jones], by adamfreedom March 23, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the &amp;quot;often vulgar Maoist&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2009/04/obama-file-72-obama-appoints-former.html Obama File 72 Obama Appoints &amp;quot;Former&amp;quot; Communist To White House &amp;quot;Green Job&amp;quot;], Trevor Louden, April 06, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:9UyDTPx6dGEJ:machete408.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/revolutionaries-in-high-places-van-jones/+van+jones+demos&amp;amp;cd=4&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;gl=nz Machete 48]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; organization STORM.  STORM's own literature describes the organization as laying a foundation to build &amp;quot;Third World communism.&amp;quot; The group studied [[Lenin]]'s theories of the state, revolution, the party, and &amp;quot;the political ideas of Mao Tse-tung.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.capitalresearch.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/stormsummation.pdf  ''Reclaiming Revolution]: history, summation &amp;amp; lessons from the work of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement (STORM)'', Spring 2004, p.15 pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to the document, the &amp;quot;growing Maoist orientation&amp;quot; within the group was a factor contributing to internal strife and the group's eventual dissolution.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid, p. 23 pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The document states that in addition to &amp;quot;the basics of Marxism, including [[dialectical materialism]],&amp;quot; it conducted  &amp;quot;a group reading of Mao's ''On Practice'' and ''On Contradiction.''  We also pushed at or went beyond the limits of the traditional Marxist canon, studying such topics as revolutionary feminism, the Palestinian liberation struggle, transgender liberation, methods of evaluation, self-care for cadre and revolutionary mass [community] organizing.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid, p. 25 pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The group was extensively involved in the [[community organizing]] movement.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ibid, pp. 8, 10, 15 pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In 1992 the premier Maoist organization in the United States, the Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP),&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6197 Revolutionary Communist Party (RCP).] Retrieved from dicoverthenetworks.org, March 8, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; an offshoot of SDS, was instrumental in fomenting riots in Los Angelas in which 58 people were killed, and more than 2,300 injured in the wake of the trial of four police officers charged with beating [[Rodney King]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://97.74.65.51/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=8939 ''Unholy Alliance: The &amp;quot;Peace Left&amp;quot; and the Islamic Jihad Against America,''] David Horowitz and John Perazzo, FrontPageMagazine.com, April 13, 2005. Retrieved March 11, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Van Jones traveled from Connecticut to be on hand and was arrested in the  aftermath.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-722-Conservative-Politics-Examiner~y2009m7d17-Van-Jones-Green-Jobs-Czar-a-selfdescribed-communist-arrested-during-Rodney-King-riots ''Van Jones, 'Green Jobs Czar', a self-described 'communist' arrested during Rodney King riots'',] Kathy Shaidle, July 17, 2009. Retrieved from examiner.com March 11, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Van Jones is also a founding board member of Apollo Alliance for clean energy and so-called &amp;quot;green-collar jobs.&amp;quot; [http://apolloalliance.org/blog/?tag=van-jones] [[Jeff Jones]] is the New York State director of Apollo Alliance. [http://apolloalliance.org/state-local/new-york-state/new-york-state-partners/] Jeff Jones was a member of the Maoist Action Faction of SDS and along with Ayers and Dohrn co-authored ''[[Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-imperialism]]'' based on the ''Sayings of Chairman Mao.''&lt;br /&gt;
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*White House Communications Office Director [[Anita Dunn]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://mises.org/daily/3796 ''Maoist in the White House,''] Dr. George Reisman,&lt;br /&gt;
Ludwig von Mises Institute, October 19, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and career==&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama II claims to have been born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham in 1961, but there is evidence&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/14/the-jihadist-vote/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that he may have actually been born in Kenya. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny revealed that the [[secular]] public school he attended was not a [[madrassa]], which teaches Islam. On days off in observance of Islamic holidays he spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Stanley Ann Dunham and the young Obama left Indonesia about 1970 for Hawaii where he attended the Punahou School, a leading private preparatory school where he graduated in 1979. &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:FrankMarshallDavis2.jpg|right|202px|thumb|'''Frank Marshall Davis, Communist Party Card No. 47544.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Frank_Marshall_Davis_5.pdf FBI file Frank Marshall Davis], v.5 p. 58 pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The [[U.S. Congress]] found the Communist Party an &amp;quot;instrumentality of a [[conspiracy]]...the agency of a hostile foreign power.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode50/usc_sec_50_00000841----000-.html Subversive Activities Control Act of 1950], 50 U.S. Code Chapter 23 Subchapter IV Sec. 841&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The [[FBI]] placed Davis in its security index, meaning he could be detained in the event of a national emergency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Frank_Marshall_Davis_3.pdf FBI File 100-15799 Frank Marshall Davis], v. 3 p. 26.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Davis was an early influence on Obama.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=HRCHJp-V0QUC&amp;amp;pg=PA220&amp;amp;dq=Frank%2Brecognizing+their+struggle+as+my+own#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;f=false ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance''], By Barack Obama, Random House, 2007, pp. 89-91, 96-98, .&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
''[[Political Affairs]]'' magazine describes itself as &amp;quot;affiliated with the [[Communist Party USA]],&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/static/17/1/3/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (CPUSA) published a speech by Prof. Gerald Horne upon receipt of the CPUSA archives at the Tamiment Library at New York University on March 28 2007.  Prof. Horne stated, &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|an African-American poet and journalist by the name of [[Frank Marshall Davis]]...befriended another family – a Euro-American family – that had migrated to Honolulu...a young woman from this family eventually had a child with a young student from [[Kenya]] ...who retracing the steps of Davis eventually decamped to Chicago. In his bestselling memoir ''Dreams of my Father'', the author speaks warmly of an older black poet...as being a decisive influence in helping him to find his present identity as an African-American... At some point in the future, a teacher will add to her syllabus Barack’s memoir and instruct her students to read it alongside Frank Marshall Davis’ equally affecting memoir...when that day comes...a future student will ...examine critically the Frankenstein monsters that US imperialism created in order to subdue Communist parties...&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politicalaffairs.net/article/articleview/5047/  Rethinking the History and Future of the Communist Party],By Gerald Horne, ''Political Affairs magazine, March 28 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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evoking the language in [[Chairman Mao]]'s ''Little Red Book'',&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|unite and defeat the U.S. aggressors... Monsters of all kinds shall be destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Statement Supporting the People of the Congo (L.) Against U.S. Aggression'' (November 28, 1964), ''People of the World, Unite and Defeat the U.S. Aggressors and All Their Lackeys'', 2nd ed., p. 14. Cited in  Quotations from Mao Tse Tung from: 1927 - 1964, Mao Tse Tung, [http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/ch07.htm Chapter 7 Dare to Struggle and Dare to Win], Peking Foreign Languages Press, 1966. Online Version: Mao Tse Tung Internet Archive (marxists.org) 2000.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Quoted in [http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccbh/souls/vol1no4/vol1num4art1.pdf ''Black Like Mao: Black Like Mao: Red China and Black Revolution''], Robin D.G. Kelley and Betsy Esche, ''Souls'' Volume 1, Number 4 Fall 1999, p. 11 in original (p. 7 pdf).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1995 book, ''Dreams from my Father'', the author wrote Obama learned to respect Davis's struggles, &amp;quot;recognizing them as my own.&amp;quot;  Obama sought Davis's advise as he left for college.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=HRCHJp-V0QUC&amp;amp;pg=PA97&amp;amp;dq=manipulate+words+so+they+don%27t+mean+anything+anymore#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=manipulate%20words%20so%20they%20don't%20mean%20anything%20anymore&amp;amp;f=false ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance''], By Barack Obama, Random House, 2007, pp. 97, 220.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Initially Obama attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors as a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in [[political science]].  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Birth Certificate Controversy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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 [[Image:Obamapullup2.JPG|325px|thumb|left|'''Candidate Obama cultivated an image''' of sportsmanship and competition; as President, Obama ridiculed disabled people who compete in the [[Special Olympics]]. The comments &amp;quot;set us back decades,&amp;quot; according to the program's director. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://archives.chicagotribune.com/2009/mar/20/local/chi-090320obama-special-olympics-react Special Olympics chief responds to Obama gaffe], Stacy St Clair, ''Chicago Tribune'', March 20, 2009]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;([http://www.necn.com/Boston/Politics/2009/03/20/Obamas-comment-sets-us-back/1237552251.html Video])&lt;br /&gt;
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During  the democratic primaries the Clinton Campaign led a smear campaign against the validity of Barack Obama's Hawaii Birth certificate, claiming that it was false and that he was ineligible for Presidency. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the ''National Review'', are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, some analysts claim that the birth certificate is false.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. The &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; which have not been shown to exist do not violate any constitutional or legal precedents and would make Sen. Obama a poor choice for President, not an invalid choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and paying a number of legal fees and taking several days out of his busy campaigning schedule the Obama campaign had the case dropped on the grounds that it lacked any supporting evidence. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=10815605&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The fact that Mr. Berg's dual arguments were mutually contradictory may also have contributed.&lt;br /&gt;
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The state of Hawaii announced that the &amp;quot;Certification of Live Birth&amp;quot; document is legitimate and official. Since the state of Hawaii is the issuing body, they have ultimate authority with regards to the matter.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Critics rightfully point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state, and his &amp;quot;Certification of Live Birth&amp;quot; has likewise been dismissed as a forgery. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/07/atlas-exclusive.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers. While his supporters cite an online version of a &amp;quot;Certification of Live Birth&amp;quot; from Hawaii. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=92810 Justice, Supremes confirm getting eligibility challenge] WND, March 24, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Bob Schultz]] with the [[We The People Foundation]] said: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;In the end, there is no practical reason why Obama refuses to produce his original birth certificate. He... has a duty to provide evidence that he meets the explicit requirements established by the Constitution.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Nancy Salvato]] with [[BasicsProject|BasicsProject.org]] perhaps put it best: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What perturbs the rest of us is that President Obama has failed to produce a legitimate birth certificate. He has a team of lawyers who are opposing the examination of his sealed records in Hawaii. What he produced was a certificate of live birth... not a birth certificate. The rest of us are appalled at the lack of media examination surrounding the fact that there is no law requiring that a candidate for the highest office in our land produce an authentic birth certificate which proves natural citizenship.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In April 2010, the Arizona House approved a bill that would require presidential candidates to show his or her birth certificate in order to be on the state's ballot.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/04/22/arizona-house-oks-requiring-presidential-candidates-provide-birth-certificate/ Arizona House OKs Bill Requiring Presidential Candidates to Provide Birth Certificate], FOXNews.com, April 22, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It would require U.S. presidential candidates who want to appear on the Arizona ballot to submit documents proving they meet the constitutional requirements to be president.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ashby Jones. [http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2010/04/22/arizona-house-to-obama-no-birth-certificate-no-ballot/ Arizona House to Obama: No Birth Certificate, No Ballot], ''The Wall Street Journal'', April 22, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Constitution says a person must be a &amp;quot;natural-born citizen&amp;quot; to be eligible for the presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/ArizonaWantsObamaBirthProofforRun/2010/04/21/id/356375 Arizona Wants Obama Birth Proof for Run], ''Newsmax'', April 21, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Education ===&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a &amp;quot;[[community organizer]]&amp;quot; in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.  Obama has stated that his favorite professors in school were Marxists.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004. Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/was_barack_obama_really_a_constitutional_law.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bernardine Dohrn.jpg|right|thumb|250px|'''Bernardine Dohrn formerly of the FBI's Ten Most Wanted''' enjoyed somewhat of a celebrity status among [[radical leftist]]s when she, along with her husband Bill Ayers, hosted a fundraiser for the relatively unknown Barack Obama in 1995; Dohrn issued the Weather Underground terrorist organization's Declaration of War Against the United States ([http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Weather_Underground_Declaration_of_a_State_of_War Full Text]) in 1970.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Q Why is the President blocking habeas corpus from prisoners at Bagram? I thought he taught constitutional law. And these prisoners have been there --&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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MR. GIBBS: You're incorrect that he taught on constitutional law.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Briefing-by-White-House-Press-Secretary-Robert-Gibbs-4-14-09/ Office of the Press Secretary], April 14, 2009, whitehouse.gov &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Following law school, Obama linked up with local communist networks in Chicago&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2009/06/obama-file-78-smoking-gun-proof-that.html The Jarrett Connection. Proof That Obama’s Hawaii and Chicago Communist Networks Were Linked] Trevor Louden, June 01, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and oversaw community organizing as director of Illinois Project Vote!  Obama states he saw opportunism in Chicago after the election of Harold Washington as the city’s first black mayor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/07/us/politics/07community.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; John Bachtell, CPUSA Illinois district organizer, said at a special meeting on African American Equality, Building the Communist Party and the Young Communist League on September 30, 2007, &amp;quot;The historic election of Washington was the culmination of many years of struggle. It reflected a high degree of unity of the African American community and the alliance with a section of labor, the Latino community and progressive minded whites. This legacy of political independence also endures.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cpusa.org/article/articleview/858/1/39/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama with [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Louis Farrakhan]] led the [[Million Man March]] on Washington in 1995.[http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/04/wright-obama-helped-organize-march-with.html][http://www1.chicagoreader.com/obama_reader/what_makes_obama_run/?q=012009K]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002.  In his famous speech delivered at a rally organized by [[SDS]] veterans&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/376/from_protest_to_politics/ ''From Protest to Politics:When war begins progressive work doesn’t end,''] Jeff Epton, ''In These Times,'' December 15, 2003. Retrieved March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech Against Going to War with Iraq (2002)] by Barack Obama. Delivered on Wednesday, October 2, 2002 by Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator, at the first high-profile Chicago anti-Iraq war rally (organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq) at noon in Federal Plaza in Chicago, Illinois. Retrieved from Wikisource.com, March 15, 2010. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Carl Davidson]] and Marilyn Katz in Chicago on October 2, 2002&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php Remarks of Illinois State Sen. Barack Obama Against Going to War with Iraq,] October 02, 2002. Retrieved from www.barackobama.com March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Even though Saddam had, in Obama's words, &amp;quot;developed [[weapons of mass destruction|chemical and biological weapons]]&amp;quot; Obama condoned the most hideous [[torture]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/jackstraw1.html Saddam Hussein's Regime Methods of Torture]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and dismissed Bush administration objectives of democratization and [[human rights]] as fighting a &amp;quot;dumb war.&amp;quot; A commentator observed, &amp;quot;one would search long and hard for any words from this apostle of hope and change about the palpable benefits that [[democracy]] might bring to the Arabs and Muslims of the Middle East.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/obama-s-war-11263 Obama's War], Peter Wehner, ''Commentary'',  April 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Organizes defeat of an incumbent Democratic Senator===&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1992, Obama was instrumental as head of Illinois Project Vote &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/January-1993/Vote-of-Confidence/ Vote of Confidence : A huge black turnout in November 1992 altered Chicago's electoral landscape—and raised a new political star: a 31-year-old lawyer named Barack Obama],&lt;br /&gt;
By Gretchen Reynolds, ''Chicago Magazine'', January 1993.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in engineering the defeat of [[Democratic Party]] incumbent U.S. Senator Alan Dixon by [[Carol Moseley Braun]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://articles.latimes.com/1992-03-18/news/mn-3844_1_gus-savage Veteran Illinois Senator Dixon Defeated - Congress], By Bob Sector, ''[[L.A. Times]]'', March 18, 1992.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dixon, in a spirit of bipartisanship and defying his party's leadership, voted across racial lines to place a black man in high office. The [[leftist]] website [[dKosopedia]] claims &amp;quot;Incumbent Democratic senator Al Dixon's vote to confirm [[US Supreme Court]] Justice [[Clarence Thomas]] outraged Braun.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/Carol_Moseley_Braun#Political_career Carol Moseley Braun], dkosopedia.com, retrieved October 25, 2009. Some sources state Moseley Braun's &amp;quot;outrage&amp;quot; was directed at the treatment of Anita Hill over her claims of sexual harassment by the nominee, however Moseley Braun voted to acquit President [[William Jefferson Clinton]] of charges stemming from a [[sexual harassment]] suit which Clinton settled by paying the aggrieved party $850,000 out of court to satisfy damage claims.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  With [[Communist Party USA]] backing,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/10/obama-file-39-barack-obama-carol.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Braun defeated Dixon in the Democratic Primary Election, 38% to 35%.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Sandy Newman, the founder of Project Vote! told ''Chicago Magazine'', &amp;quot;I was asking around among community activists in Chicago and around the country, and they kept mentioning him (Obama)... He did one hell of a job.&amp;quot;  The magazine further reported, &amp;quot;To understand the full implications of Obama's effort, you first need to understand how voter registration often has worked in Chicago. The Regular Democratic Party spearheaded most drives,&amp;quot; with Obama at the helm of Chicago's Project Vote!, those conditions had been reversed. &amp;quot;He helped train 700 deputy registrars, out of a total of 11,000 citywide.&amp;quot; Joseph Gardner, the director of the steering committee for Project Vote! said, &amp;quot;It was overwhelming.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Legal career===&lt;br /&gt;
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Michelle Robinson began employment at the Chicago Law firm of Sidley-Austin in 1988 where disbarred attorney and [[Weather Underground]] [[terrorist]] [[Bernardine Dohrn]] also worked.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjY4YzdhMDBkZGQ3ZmU2MTUzYjdkMzc5ZjUzYmViZWM=&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDIxMDJiNzU5M2Q1MTY3ZGI1YTdmOWY5MzkwN2QxYzg=&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sidley-Austin is the legal advisor to [[ACORN]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&amp;amp;pageId=84434 Michelle Obama's old law firm defends ACORN], ''WorldNetDaily, December 23, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; a group accused of facilitating tax fraud, ballot box stuffing, human trafficking and child prostitution.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NmIzOTBmNGY3OGEwNzgwZWU1MjMzMjJkNWM4NzVkNmI=&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama was hired a year later and appears to have misrepresented where he and future First Lady - Michelle Robinson Obama - first met. &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Religious affiliations ===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|left|'''Obama and Jeremiah Wright.'''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Despite Wright's rabid and sarcastic anti-American sermons, the Obama's regularly took their two small children to hear him speak.  One Obama supporter remarked, &amp;quot;I cannot fathom allowing my children to hear filth from the pulpit.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html?show_comment_id=12042024#comment_12042024&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Obama and his wife (raised a Baptist) were members of the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776246/posts&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title was inspired by one of Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
After 20 years of being an active member, in April 2008 candidate Obama made public statements poised to set him at odds with the man who conducted his wedding and baptized his children. With the negative publicity persisting, a month later Obama ended the friendship, left Wright's church, and blamed the media.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, May 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama claimed “It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;, and distanced himself from  Wright's sermons  as &amp;quot;a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in the truth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;USA TODAY, ''Obama breaks with former pastor, Candidate cites rants on U.S. role in terror, AIDS'', by Kathy Kiely and David Jackson [http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080430/1a_offlede30_dom.art.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Obama Says He Is Outraged By Wright's &amp;quot;Rants&amp;quot;''[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080430.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statement &amp;quot;G-d damn America,&amp;quot; and in describing the September 11th attacks, &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being [[anti-Semitic]].&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the [[Koran]] while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist that she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well. Moreover, as a child I rarely came in contact with those who might offer a substantially different view of faith. My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.&lt;br /&gt;
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And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known. She had an unswerving instinct for kindness, charity, and love, and spent much of her life acting on that instinct, sometimes to her detriment. Without the help of religious texts or outside authorities, she worked mightily to instill in me the values that many Americans learn in Sunday school: honesty, empathy, discipline, delayed gratification, and hard work. She raged at poverty and injustice.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579-4,00.html My Spiritual Journey] Time Magazine, October 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Obama is likely the first Muslim President===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|right|thumb|'''Then-Senator Obama wearing traditional African garb''', a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
The evidence that Obama is a Muslim includes:&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by '''Muslim Americans'''. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife Michelle does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until France, but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background, education, and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which most Christians would not retain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.[http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814]  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama mentioned his religion as &amp;quot;[[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.&amp;quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: Allah is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 million man march led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one mosque&amp;quot; in Kenya while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama refuses to refer to the United States as &amp;quot;''our country''&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;What I think we know separate and apart from this incident -- is that there is a long history '''in this country''' of African-Americans and Latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately, and that's just a fact.&amp;quot;[8] &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', meaning &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ET_Cetera/Obama_to_take_oath_using_middle_name_/articleshow/3813120.cms&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/10/politics/main4660590.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_4660590&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the G20 summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to Saudi King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of Las Vegas for unknown reasons. The reason may be his contempt of gambling which is forbidden in the Koran. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991, nor of Barack Obama's joining of a Mosque (The Islamic house of worship) at any time in his life.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama visited a mosque in Istanbul, Turkey.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Illinois State Senate (1995-2005) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Youngobama2.jpg|320px|thumb|left|'''Dr. Quentin Young (left) is personal physician to Barack Obama (right) and [[Bernardine Dohrn]] (not shown)'''.  Dr. Young was reimbursed by the [[KGB]] after he paid rent in advance on a storefront he used to treat injured rioters during the disruptions of the 1968 Democratic National Convention.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Transcript_May_22_edited_version.pdf ''The Stealth Candidate''], Transcript, Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, May 22 2008, p. 16.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;House Committee on Un-American Activities, ''Subversive Involvement in Disruption of 1968 Democratic Party National Convention'', and ''Hearings Before the Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities of the United States'' Senate. Ninety-&lt;br /&gt;
Fourth Congress. First Session. Volume 6. Federal Bureau of Investigation. 1976, Exhibit 68-13., cited in ''Communism in Chicago and the Obama Connection'', Cliff Kincaid and Herbert Romerstein, usasurvival.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The ringleaders, principally [[Weather Underground]] terrorists, received urban guerilla warfare training in Cuba from the [[DGI]] prior to the attacks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usasurvival.org/docs/Cuban_DGI.pdf Final Talk to the Fourth Contingent, Julian Rizo DGI.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1995 a cadre of like minded individuals gathered in the home of [[Weather Underground]] (WUO) [[terrorist]]s [[Bernardine Dohrn]] and [[William Ayers|William &amp;quot;Bill&amp;quot; Ayers]].  According to Dr. [[Quentin Young]], &amp;quot;I can remember being one of a small group of people who came to Bill Ayers' house to learn that [[Alice Palmer]] was stepping down from the senate and running for Congress.&amp;quot; Dohrn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Georgie Anne Geyer and Keyes Beach &amp;quot;Cuba: School for U.S. Radicals&amp;quot;, ''Chicago Daily News/Chicago Sun-Times'' five part series October 1970, excerpted in [http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/weather/weath1c.pdf FBI file Weather Underground Organization (Weatherman),] Part 1c pp. 5-7 pdf (113-115 in original). [http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/clandestine-agents-of-the-cuban-government-ayers-dohrn-myers/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a veteran of [[guerrilla warfare]] training in Cuba prior to the attacks on the 1968 Democrtatic National Convention. [[Carl Davidson]], webmaster of [[Progressives for Obama]], was told by [[Fidel Castro]] at the same time Castro believed the United States was ready for [[revolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Young related Illinois State Senator Alice Palmer was choosing then Chicago city councilman Barack Obama as her successor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8630.html Obama once visited '60s radicals.], Ben Smith, Politico, February 22, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Palmer once served on the executive board of the [[U.S. Peace Council]], a [[KGB]] front organization&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=_PZy-U7G2EMC&amp;amp;pg=PA111&amp;amp;dq=U.S.+Peace+Council%2Bkgb&amp;amp;source=gbs_toc_r&amp;amp;cad=4#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%22U.S.%20Peace%20Council%22&amp;amp;f=false The Apocalyptic premise : Nuclear Arms Debated], By Ernest W. Lefever, E. Stephen Hunt, Ethics and Public Policy Center, Washington, D.C., 1982, pp. 127-137.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that actively opposed President [[Ronald Reagan]]'s defense program. &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|200px|thumb|right|'''Obama served on the Board of the Woods Fund of Chicago with [[Weather Underground]] [[terrorist|terrorist group]] co-founder Bill Ayers'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf FBI file Weather Underground]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; '''at the time this photo appeared of Ayers stomping the American flag''' in ''Chicago Magazine'' in 2001. Ayers, Obama's boss at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, contributes to Obama election campaigns and hosted an important fundraiser in Obama's early career to meet and greet Ayers contacts.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ayers and Dohrn took credit, and have never denied, responsibility for a series of [[terrorist]] bombings which included the [[U.S. Capitol]], the [[Pentagon]] and the [[State Department]].    &lt;br /&gt;
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Ayers, Dohrn and Barack Obama's friendship and associations go back to the 1980s. The Ayers/Dohrn group lent notoriety among [[leftist]]s to launch Obama's career.  Ayers, Dohrn and [[Jeff Jones]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=106653 ''Obama's 'green jobs czar' worked with terror founder] Van Jones served on board of activist group where ex-Weatherman serves as top director'', By Aaron Klein, [[WorldNetDaily]], August 13, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the Apollo Alliance authored ''[[Bill_Ayers#Prairie_Fire_Organizing_Committee_and_Maoist_thought|Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-imperialism]],'' the title of which is taken from ''The Sayings of Mao Zedong,''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;a single spark can set a prairie fire.&amp;quot; The book declares &amp;quot;we are communist men and women.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harvey Klehr, ''Far Left of Center: The American Radical Left Today'' (Transaction Books, New Brunswick, 1988), 109.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama Green Czar [[Van Jones]] is a founder of the Apollo Alliance. In response to the [[Gulf of Mexico]] oil spill disaster, Katrina Vanden Huevel of ''[[The Nation]]'' magazine suggested &amp;quot;we need a [[Manhattan Project]], an Apollo Alliance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&amp;amp;orgId=574&amp;amp;topicId=100007216&amp;amp;docId=l:1179238159&amp;amp;isRss=true ''This Week,''] [[ABC News]] Transcript, 2 May 2010. Retrieved from LexisNexis, 3 May 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.&lt;br /&gt;
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President Obama is the first person having ties to a known former terrorist to gain control over America's nuclear weapons.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/obama-associate-bill-ayers-unrepentant-for-acts-of-terror/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Author and blogger Jack Cashill requisitioned a comparison of the writing style of [[Bill Ayers]]' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barack Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Obama's former boss, Bill Ayers, may have ghostwritten ''Dreams''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;www.cashill.com, ''Who Wrote &amp;quot;Dreams From My Father&amp;quot;?'', by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008 [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm] Cashill states that a computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book; also he wrote &amp;quot;None of this, of course, proves Ayers' authorship conclusively, but the evidence makes him a much more likely candidate than Obama to have written the best parts of ''Dreams''&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from ''Dreams'',&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed.  He did not address the possibility that Ayers had plagiarized from Obama's earlier book.  A philosophy professor from England disagreed.[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=77815]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers confesses to violent acts, planting bombs, says he has no regrets and feels he &amp;quot;should have done more.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Runs as candidate for the Marxist New Party ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1995 Obama accepted the nomination, signed a contract,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;From the Chicago DSA website, &amp;quot;Candidates must be approved via a NP political committee. Once approved, candidates must sign a contract with the NP. The contract mandates that they must have a visible and active relationship with the NP. The political entourage included ...Barack Obama, chief of staff for State Sen. [[Alice Palmer]]. Obama is running for Palmer's vacant seat.&amp;quot; Retrieved from [http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng42.html#anchor792932 Chicago New Party Update,]&lt;br /&gt;
by Bruce Bentley. Retrieved March 15,2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and ran as a candidate of the openly [[Marxist]] New Party.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7434 NEW PARTY (NP)], discoverthenetwork.org.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rick Moran. [http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/obamas_alliance_with_marxists.html Obama's Alliance with Marxists], ''American Thinker'', June 03, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[New Party]] was an electoral alliance that worked alongside [[ACORN]], formed by members of the Democratic Socialists for America (SPUSA and DSAUSA) and leaders of an offshoot of the [[Communist Party of the United States of America|Community Party USA]] (CPUSA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Aaron Klein. [http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=78945 Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party], ''[[WorldNetDaily]]'', October 24, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The New Party was funded by literally hundreds of leftist front-groups operating as special interest 527 organizations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;JB Williams. [http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13872 Obama’s Well Organized Community Is Falling Apart], ''Canada Free Press'', August 18, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== U.S. Senate (2004-2008) ==&lt;br /&gt;
Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|'''Candidaate Obama stands with folded hands''during the Democratic primaries while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]] in 2008. [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html See Video] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''[[People's Weekly World]]'' which describes itself as &amp;quot;the direct descendant of the ''[[Daily Worker]]'' &amp;quot;  that enjoys &amp;quot;a special relationship with the [[Communist Party USA]], founded in 1919,&amp;quot; and publishes its news and views,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pww.org/article/static/320 About the People's Weekly World] pww.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; reported on Obama's 2004 Senate primary campaign: &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Activists from Illinois were immersed in the campaign to elect Barak Obama to the U.S. Senate. Obama won a landslide victory in the March 16 Democratic primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''A turning point election'', Joelle Fishman, People's Weekly World, 04/24/04.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} John Bachtell, Illinois Communist Party district organizer added,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This was a historic victory. It was a victory for political independence and grassroots, coalition, and issue oriented politics over the machine and money.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pww.org/article/articleprint/5145/ The CPUSA fires up its members to ‘Dump Bush!’], By Tim Wheeler, Washington correspondent, People's Weekly World , 04/24/04.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} In June  the ''People’s Weekly World'' carried a piece by Dee Myles, chair of the education commission of the Communist Party USA, eulogizing [[Frank Marshall Davis]]'s old colleague, [[Vernon Jarrett]]. Myles said, &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|from his hospital bed, [Jarrett] wrote an article appealing to Black Chicago to turn out to vote for [[Barack Obama]] in the Illinois primaries. Obama astounded everyone with an incredible landslide victory as the progressive, Black candidate for the [[Democratic Party]] nomination for the U.S. Senate seat from Illinois. From his sickbed, Vernon Jarrett issued a clarion call, and the people responded.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/5331/ Vernon Jarrett: a partisan journalistic giant], Dee Myles, [[People's Weekly World]] Newspaper, Jun 5, 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Senate career===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|left|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
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October 2008 crimes against Academy Award winner Jennifer Hudson's family highlighted Obama's record against law and order, as he voted against making it a crime in Illinois &amp;quot;for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-crime-votes-are-fodder-for-rivals-2007-03-13.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The person of interest in the murders of Hudson's mother, brother, and 7-year-old nephew is the estranged husband of Hudson's sister and a convicted felon who had violated his parole conditions.[http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-julian-king-autopsy-1029,0,2752431.story]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;quot;'We've got 75,000 gang members - that's almost six gang members to one police officer,'&amp;quot; in Obama's hometown of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;More people have been murdered in Chicago this year than in New York - even though New York's population is three times greater. When Hudson's mother, brother and nephew were killed last month, they pushed the city's homicide total for the year to 436 and counting. New York has had 430 homicides.&amp;quot; [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/01/2008-11-01_chicago_buried_in_murders.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Use of filibuster and obstructionism ===&lt;br /&gt;
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White House Communication Director [[Dan Pfeiffer]] described the frustration of an Administration having its legislative agenda delayed by [[filibuster]]s and obsrtructionism:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quotebox|If we're going to have a government that works for the American people, then we need to focus on the things that actually matter ...Every day we waste delaying votes on well-qualified public servants or obstructing progress on problems that need solving is a day we're not doing our jobs. [http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/02/03/needless-delays-and-filibusters-run-amok-a-case-study]}}&lt;br /&gt;
The ''[[Washington Post]]'' claims [[partisan]] obstructionism is &amp;quot;a legislative tactic [Obama] once practiced himself&amp;quot; :&lt;br /&gt;
:*In 2005, a year after his election to the Senate, Obama placed a hold on Susan Bodine to lead the Environmental Protection Agency office that oversees Superfund and emergency cleanup programs because the agency had missed a deadline on new regulations for lead paint exposure. &lt;br /&gt;
:*In September 2006, Obama and Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.) blocked Robert L. Wilkie's nomination as a Defense Department assistant secretary over a long-delayed Pentagon report on Midwestern wind farms. &lt;br /&gt;
:*And Obama joined with other Democrats in October 2007 to block the nomination of Hans von Spakovsky to the Federal Election Commission. Von Spakovsky later withdrew; Wilkie and Bodine were eventually confirmed. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/03/AR2010020303801_pf.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bills co-sponsored ===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s110-2433&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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*A bill to raise the [[minimum wage]]; Obama voted against the bill when it was later attached to an Iraq war supplemental spending bill.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and  filed reports indicating money was still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:OenEReuters.jpg|left|200px|thumb|In Egypt, June 2009.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Foreign policy experience ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In his presidential campaign, Obama stated&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other children in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Presidential Election (2008) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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:''See Main article'' : [[Barack Hussein Obama 2008 Presidential campaign]]&lt;br /&gt;
Obama and his running mate [[Senator Joseph Biden]] won the presidential election&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_wins_presidency/2008/11/04/147788.html?utm_medium=RSS]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; after 23 months of campaigning that spent over $700 million,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cid=N00009638&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; much of it raised from undisclosed or [[fraud]]ulent donors,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Obama’s finance team missed quite a few obviously troubling large donations, from such unsavory individuals as Mr. Jfggjjfgj, 'Mong Kong,' 'Test Person,' and 'Jockim Alberton,' who lives at a fictional address on a street that does not exist in Wilmington, Delaware. How many fictional characters might there be among the $220 million that Obama has collected in small, undisclosed contributions?  Obama's small donors have all been recorded, and he could easily follow McCain’s lead by disclosing this major source of his campaign’s money.&amp;quot;[http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=OTllNTk2MDNmNDk1YmQ0OWEzOTZmMTVmODUwZTQwY2E= &amp;quot;Fake Donors, Phony Pledge, ''National Review'' (Oct. 22, 2008)] Obama did not.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[bailout]] recipients&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cid=N00009638&amp;amp;cycle=2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.votesmart.org/finance.php?can_id=9490&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/10/14/business/14bailout.graphic2.html ''Beneficiary Banks'', New York Times. 2008-10-14.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.investmentnews.com/article/20090219/FREE/902199983]''UBS fined $780 million in tax evasion scandal, Investment News, February 19, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and big oil [[pollution|polluter]]s.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0505/obama-biggest-recipient-bp-political-action-money-20-years Obama is biggest recipient of BP’s political action cash in the last 20 years,] John Byrne, 5 May 2010. Retrieved from rawstory.com 9 May 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jake Tapper, Political Punch, [[ABC News]], 5 May 2010. [http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/05/white-house-idea-that-bp-given-special-exemption-because-of-campaign-cash-to-obama-silly-and-ridiculous.html?cid=6a00d8341c4df253ef0134807669a3970c]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2010/04/on-thursday-oil-giant-bp.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama spent far more per vote than McCain did: Obama spent $7.39 per vote, while McCain spent only $5.78 per vote.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/cancomsrs/?_08+00+PR&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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To announce his trip to [[Berlin]] in July 2008, Obama used posters which show a marked similarity to posters of [[Lenin]] and [[Che Guevara]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://andrightlyso.com/2008/07/24/obama-lenin-gaffe/ Obama's direct copy of a Lenin poster for his Berlin visit]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/31/the-la-times-looks-into-the-obama-che-iconcography-connection/ The LA Times looks into the Obama-Che iconography connection] by Michelle Malkin &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama carried 52% of the popular vote and the states [[John Kerry]] won in 2004, in addition to Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Florida, and Indiana. Of the 127 million votes cast, Obama beat John McCain by 8 million total votes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [http://images.newsmax.com/misc/2008_Election_Map.jpg See county breakdown map] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[www.cnn.com/election]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Association of American Physicians and Surgeons]] observed that Obama used techniques of [[mind control]] in his campaign, as in this speech: &amp;quot;a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089 .  The doctors observe that &amp;quot;Obama's logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation ... [that] resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/10/who_wrote_dreams_from_my_fathe_1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) ISBN 0307383415&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama) ISBN 0307455874&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak) ISBN 0786720573&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Early in his campaign for president in 2007, Obama declared in an interview with the [[Chicago Tribune]], &amp;quot;I'm a [[Christian]]. And so, although I try not to have my religious beliefs dominate or determine my political views on this issue ... my religious beliefs say that [[marriage]] is something sanctified between a man and a woman.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/cheri-jacobus/obama-and-miss-california-2009-04-23.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;This country is going to honor our [[collective]] responsibility.&amp;quot; [http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Weekly-Address-President-Obama-Announces-New-Initiatives-for-Retirement-Savings/]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Birthplace of Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Born Outside the U.S.A.!]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jobsgate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lobbyists ties to the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Party]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[ObamaCare]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama birth certificate controversy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama birth certificate lawsuits]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama doublespeak]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama inauguration]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Religion of Barack Hussein Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Honorable James David Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Young Communist League]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Further reading ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
*James Simpson, [http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html ''Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis''], American Thinker, September 28, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/ ''What Is To Be Done?] Burning Questions of our Movement'', [[Vladimir Ilyich Lenin]], Lenin’s Collected Works, Foreign Languages Publishing House, 1961, Moscow, Volume 5, pp. 347-530.&lt;br /&gt;
*The Manchurian President: Barack Obama's Ties to Communists, Socialists and Other Anti-American Extremists (April 20, 2010) by Aaron Klein, Brenda J. Elliott ISBN 1935071874&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.barackobama.com/ Official Obama for President Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.antiobama.net/ Anti Obama.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.dontvoteobama.net/ Don’t Vote For Obama.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://nobamanetwork.com/ Nobama Network]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/ Audacity Of Hypocrisy]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ The Real Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6130/ The New Cult of Personality]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.survivingobamunism.com/index.html Surviving Obamunism T-shirts]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/ Barack Obama the Anti-Christ ?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/23/che-obama-and-the-revolutionary-agenda/ Che, Obama, and the Revolutionary Agenda]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/ Obama Laundry List of Lies]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/09/americas-first-muslim-president/ GAFFNEY: America's first Muslim president?] Washington Times&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l-esposito/barack-obama-and-islam_b_212519.html Barack Obama and Islam.] by [[John L. Esposito]].&lt;br /&gt;
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