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Talk:Catharine MacKinnon

2008-03-27T22:02:07Z

ShaggerNorris:

This quote is notable, because liberals typically like to conceal the links between feminism and communism. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 17:59, 27 March 2008 (EDT)
:Just because one feminist says something completely hatstand, does not make it true. [[User:ShaggerNorris|ShaggerNorris]] 18:02, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Template talk:Biased

2008-03-27T21:49:18Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: Nice one, Ed. This should come in very handy. ~~~~

Nice one, Ed. This should come in very handy. [[User:ShaggerNorris|ShaggerNorris]] 17:49, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Talk:Feminism and housewives

2008-03-27T21:46:55Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: I would merge it. An article basically giving a single opinion, and with such a 'debate-led' rather than 'fact-led' title isn't really fully encyclopaedic imo: better put it in the context...

I would merge it. An article basically giving a single opinion, and with such a 'debate-led' rather than 'fact-led' title isn't really fully encyclopaedic imo: better put it in the context of a broader article, or even a debate page. [[User:ShaggerNorris|ShaggerNorris]] 17:46, 27 March 2008 (EDT)

Rio de Janeiro

2008-03-27T21:42:47Z

ShaggerNorris:

'''Rio de Janeiro''' is a major port city and former capital of [[Brazil]]. Its full name is ''Cidade de Sao Sebastiao do Rio de Janeiro'', 'City of Saint Sebastian of the River of January': the bay on which Rio stands was mistaken for a river estuary by the Portugese sailors who entered it on 1 January 1502. It became the Portugese colonial capital in 1763 and remained Brazilian capital until 1960, when [[Brasilia]] became the capital.

[[Category:Cities]]

Rio de Janeiro

2008-03-27T21:38:04Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: '''Rio de Janeiro''' is a major port city and former capital of Brazil. Category:Cities

'''Rio de Janeiro''' is a major port city and former capital of [[Brazil]].

[[Category:Cities]]

Promiscuity

2008-03-27T21:35:44Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: The term '''promiscuity''' refers to indiscriminate or multiple sexual relations. Category:Sexuality

The term '''promiscuity''' refers to indiscriminate or multiple sexual relations.

[[Category:Sexuality]]

Solidarity

2008-03-27T21:31:46Z

ShaggerNorris:

Solidarity was a independent [[trade union]] in [[Communist]]-dominated [[Poland]]. Its courageous struggle for freedom ultimately helped bring about the collapse of Communism in Poland and eastern [[Europe]].

Solidarity was founded in September 1980 during a strike at the Lenin Shipyard in [[Gdansk]], on Poland's [[Baltic Sea]] coast. Its first leader was a shipyard electrician, [[Lech Walesa]]. In 1981 the Polish government imposed [[martial law]] to suppress industrial and political unrest, and Walesa was interned; the union was forced underground for several years, but the Communist Party eventually had to negotiate. Elections held in 1989 led to a coalition government of which Solidarity formed part, and Walesa became Polish president.

Solidarity

2008-03-27T21:30:44Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: Solidarity was a independent trade union in Communist-dominated Poland. Its courageous struggle for freedom ultimately helped bring about the collapse of Communism in Poland an...

Ramsay MacDonald

2008-03-27T21:25:15Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: '''James Ramsay MacDonald''' (1866-1937) became Britain's first Labour Party Prime Minister in 1924. Although his first government lasted less than a year, he again became Pri...

'''James Ramsay MacDonald''' (1866-1937) became [[Britain]]'s first [[ Labour Party]] [[Prime Minister]] in 1924. Although his first government lasted less than a year, he again became Prime Minister in 1929. The growing world crisis led him to form a [[coalition]] government, alled the National Government, in 1931: this was supported by the [[Conservative Party]] and a significant portion of the [[Liberal Party]] but by very few of his Labour Party comrades: ever since, Ramsay MacDonald has been seen as a traitor in [[Socialist]] circles. He resigned his position as PM in 1935.

[[Category:United Kingdom Prime Ministers]]

RESPECT Party

2008-03-27T21:17:01Z

ShaggerNorris:

'''RESPECT - The Unity Coalition''' is an extreme-left wing political party founded by British politician [[George Galloway]] who was expelled from the Labour Party for supporting attacks on British troops taking part in [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]], the liberation of Iraq.

It draws its support from the extremist Socialist Workers Party (GB) and the [[anti-semitic]] [[Muslim Association of Britain]].

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[[Category:British Political Parties]]

Middlesborough

2008-03-26T23:31:38Z

ShaggerNorris: Redirecting to Middlesbrough

#REDIRECT [[Middlesbrough]]

Teeside

2008-03-26T23:31:06Z

ShaggerNorris: Redirecting to Teesside

#REDIRECT [[Teesside]]

Metropolitan Police

2008-03-26T23:28:37Z

ShaggerNorris: No tautology!

The Metropolitan Police (known as 'the Met') is the main police service for [[London]]. It was founded in 1829 by the then [[Home Secretary]] Sir [[Robert Peel]] and was the first modern police force in the [[United Kingdom]]. Its headquarters are at New Scotland Yard.

The Metropolitan Police is the police service for Greater London, with the exception of the minuscule [[City of London]] district which has its own force. In addition, smaller forces such as the British Transport Police, the Ministry of Defence Police, and the Royal Parks Police operate in the capital.

[[Category:British Police and Crime]]

Teesside

2008-03-26T23:26:12Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: Teesside is a conurbation of north-east England located on the estuary of the River Tees. It includes the towns of Stockton on Tees, Middlesbrough, Billingham and [...

Teesside is a [[conurbation]] of north-east [[England]] located on the estuary of the [[River Tees]]. It includes the towns of [[Stockton on Tees]], [[Middlesbrough]], [[Billingham]] and [[Redcar]]. The area is noted for heavy industry, particularly in steel and chemicals manufacture, and is the location of the University of Teesside.

[[Category:United Kingdom Towns and Cities]]

County of London

2008-03-26T23:21:37Z

ShaggerNorris: New page: The '''County of London''' was established in 1889 to provide improved local government for the British capital, incorporating inner suburban districts previously in the counties of [[Midd...

The '''County of London''' was established in 1889 to provide improved local government for the British capital, incorporating inner suburban districts previously in the counties of [[Middlesex]], [[Surrey]] and [[Kent]]. Some parts of the [[conurbation]] still lay outside the boundaries of the new county even as it was formed, and as London expanded in the twentieth century the problems of co-ordinating planning for the capital grew. Nevertheless, the London County Council (LCC) achieved a major reputation for progressive endeavours in housing, public transport, health care and public utilities; its 1930s leader, [[Herbert Morrison]], went on to mastermind the [[nationalisation]] programme of [[Clement Attlee]]'s 1945-51 Government. In 1965 the County of London was abolished and replaced by the larger [[Greater London]].

[[Category:United Kingdom Counties]]

London

2008-03-26T23:15:41Z

ShaggerNorris:

[[Image:Tower bridge London.jpg|right|thumb|300px|Tower Bridge in London.]]
'''London''' is the capital of [[England]] and the [[United Kingdom]] and is the largest city in [[Europe]]. It includes both the [[City of London]] (the Square Mile) and [[Greater London]].

==History==
London was founded by the [[Romans]] as Londinium, and became the capital of [[England]] (taking over from [[Winchester]]) during the reign of [[William II]]. It grew steadily during the [[Middle Ages]], during which period it became a major port, specializing in the export of English wool.

In the [[Renaissance]], London became a centre of learning and culture, though the rise of [[Puritans|Puritanism]] in the late 16th century stifled much art and culture within the city centre. A lot of what Puritans deemed 'unacceptable' moved to the South Bank (the land lying on the south-side of the River Thames). Shakespeare's Globe theatre was located in this area, as well as many other buildings containing more questionable entertainment.

During the period of the [[British Empire]], London was a key transhipment point for various cargoes, including [[tea]], [[slaves]], [[molasses]], [[jute]], and [[silver]], indeed, anything traded in by the [[East India Company]].

During [[World War II]], London was heavily bombed by Germany's air force in [[the Blitz]] of 1940-41 and in 1944-45 was attacked by [[V-1]] 'flying bombs' and [[V-2]] missiles.

==Government of London==
London is governed by the Mayor of London (currently [[Ken Livingstone]]), a post not to be confused with that of Lord Mayor of London, which relates solely to the small [[City of London]] district. The mayor's executive is subject to scrutiny by the [[Greater London Assembly]]<ref>http://www.london.gov.uk/</ref>. Most matters relating to local government - local planning control, housing, education, libraries and arts, refuse collection,. etc - are controlled by London's 33 local authorities: 32 London Boroughs, and the [[City of London]] Corporation<ref>http://www.londoncouncils.gov.uk/doc.asp?doc=8788&cat=989</ref>.

==Popular Perception==
Although London is frequently depicted in the American media as a quaint and historic city perpetually shrouded in fog, the reality is that London is a modern city at the cutting edge of developments in architecture, transport, commerce, industry and entertainment, and fog is a rare occurrence. In fact, London is considered by many to be the financial capital of the world as well as the theatre capital of the world, and one of the world's premier cities<ref>{{cite web | last = Z/Yen Limited | title = The Competitive Position of London as a Global Financial Centre | publisher = CityOfLondon.gov.uk | date = November 2005 | url = http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/rdonlyres/131B4294-698B-4FAF-9758-080CCE86A36C/0/BC_RS_compposition_FR.pdf | format = PDF | accessdate = 2006-09-17}}</ref><ref>[http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/citymap.html The World According to GaWC], GaWC, [[Loughborough University]]</ref>. The city is notably permissive in its attitudes towards homosexuality, with twin centres for the lifestyle in [[Soho]]'s Old Compton Street and Wimbolt Street in East London. It is not unusual for men to live together as 'partners', especially around these areas. Notable London homosexuals include [[Quentin Crisp]], [[Adam Parmenter]] and [[Peter Tatchell]].

Notable landmarks include the [[Houses of Parliament]], The [[London Eye]], [[Buckingham Palace]] and [[Westminster Abbey]]. The [[London Underground]] (London's subway system, also known as the Tube) is the oldest in the world.

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==See Also==
[[London England Temple]]

[[Category:United Kingdom Towns and Cities]]
[[Category:Capital Cities]]

Prune

2008-03-26T23:12:54Z

ShaggerNorris:

'''Pruning''' is the act of cutting, trimming, or removing extra or unnecessary growth from [[plants]]. The purpose is for [[fruit]] and [[flower]] production, visually appealing decoration, limited space, removing diseased portions, or training a bush to become a tree. In either case, it encourages plant health.

A '''prune''' is also a dried plum.

'''Prune-like''' means wrinkled.

[[Category:Botany]]
[[Category:Food and drink]]
[[Category:Fruit]]

Prune

2008-03-26T23:12:23Z

ShaggerNorris:

Mere Christianity

2008-03-26T23:11:17Z

ShaggerNorris: Lewis was a Fellow at Oxford but had to move to Cambridge to get a Professorial chair

'''''Mere Christianity'''''<ref name="isbn0-06-065292-6">{{cite book |author=Lewis, C. S. |title=Mere Christianity: a revised and amplified edition, with a new introduction, of the three books, Broadcast talks, Christian behaviour, and Beyond personality |publisher=HarperSanFrancisco |location=[San Francisco] |year=2001 |pages= |isbn=0-06-065292-6 |oclc= |doi=}}</ref> is often described as a good book for an unbeliever to read if he is seeking to establish a rational basis for belief first in God, second in religion and thence in Christianity. The book is adapted from a series of radio lectures by [[C.S._Lewis | C.S. Lewis]] author of the ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]''. These were originally broadcast by the [[BBC]] in 1943 while Lewis taught at [[Oxford]] University. <ref>http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/people/cslewis_16.shtml The only surviving footage of C.S. Lewis's broadcast talk</ref>

<references/>

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[[Category:Religion]]

Mere Christianity

2008-03-26T23:08:17Z

ShaggerNorris:

'''''Mere Christianity'''''<ref name="isbn0-06-065292-6">{{cite book |author=Lewis, C. S. |title=Mere Christianity: a revised and amplified edition, with a new introduction, of the three books, Broadcast talks, Christian behaviour, and Beyond personality |publisher=HarperSanFrancisco |location=[San Francisco] |year=2001 |pages= |isbn=0-06-065292-6 |oclc= |doi=}}</ref> is often described as a good book for an unbeliever to read if he is seeking to establish a rational basis for belief first in God, second in religion and thence in Christianity. The book is adapted from a series of radio lectures by [[C.S._Lewis | C.S. Lewis]] author of the ''[[Chronicles of Narnia]]''. These were originally broadcast by the [[BBC]] in 1943 while Lewis was a professor at [[Oxford]] University. <ref>http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/people/cslewis_16.shtml The only surviving footage of C.S. Lewis's broadcast talk</ref>

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[[Category:Religion]]

Talk:Professor values

2008-03-26T22:30:29Z

ShaggerNorris: /* Catholic schools */

...does [[Richard Dawkins|Dawkins]] fall into this category as well? For example, ''"Liberal politicians are routinely given high-ranking academic positions despite a lack of a doctorate."'' [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 13:03, 8 March 2008 (EST)
:No, because he's not a politician, and he does have a doctorate (two, actually, I think). And since you bring it up...Gary Hart also has a doctorate. And, while Dukakis only has a Harvard law degree, his academic work has been in fields where he can most reasonably be considered an expert (public policy). The same can be said of Al Gore (and his have hardly been "high-ranking academic positions"--"visiting" professorships, and non-credit courses). And, finally, Kerrey is an administrator, not an academic.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 20:35, 9 March 2008 (EDT)
::He's not a politician, but he is an [[atheistic]] (and [[liberal]]) figurehead. And I wouldn't be too certain about those doctorates; [[Richard_Dawkins#Position_at_Oxford|it's debatable whether Dawkins is even a real professor]]. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 00:10, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
:I removed Hart and Kerrey as examples of "liberal politicians (who) are routinely given high-ranking academic positions despite a lack of a doctorate", because (as noted above), Hart has a doctorate, and Kerrey is an administrator (not an academic).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:18, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
::I don't know enough about those politicians in particular to confirm your edits, but your reasoning sounds legitimate. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 22:33, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
:::Alternately, I suppose, one could add Hart/Kerrey back to the list and change the wording of the defining phrase to something like, "...given university positions over better-qualified candidates."--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:46, 11 March 2008 (EDT)
::Actually, yes, I agree with that. These examples certainly shouldn't be removed on a technicality or a meaningless distinction when the point still stands; changing the wording of the phrase is a much better idea. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 20:56, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

== What is this about? ==

'''What?''' Another article based on an '''unheard-of phrase''' plucked out of the air? This certainly does not look like an encyclopedia article - cf. [[Hollywood values]], [[Liberal friendship]], [[Second generation atheist]], [[Liberal grading]], [[Embraced deceit]], etc. None of these belongs in an encyclopedia. Apart from anything else, who on earth is likely to look up a phrase like "professor values"? Shouldn't an encyclopedia consist of articles on topics that users are likely to look for, not on opinion pieces by its editor-in-chief? What point are you trying to make, exactly? Who is the target of this latest attack? This is the sort of thing I would expect from a blog or a hate-based website, not from a family-friendly and '''trustworthy''' encyclopedia. This sort of thing is making Conservapedia look ridiculous. Or would you like articles on [[Doctor values]], [[Taxi-driver values]] and [[Lawyer values]] as well? If so, I'd be happy to draft them for you! There must be lots to be said about the misdemeanors of all sorts of groups. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 17:15, 9 March 2008 (EDT)

== Head's up - this isn't as simple as it may seem ==

As I was doing some admittedly "Google-esque" research, I did find that there are well over 6000 colleges and universities and probably many more than 250,000 current faculty at the present time. If we work backwards a generation or two, the number increases, of course, which makes it difficult to substantiate the claim that professors are disproportionately likely to commit crimes or other misdeeds, especially if all we cite are fewer than 20 examples of such misdeeds. Looking at campus statistics, many more campus crimes (by far) were committed by students, to say nothing about the many thousands of crimes committed by the general public. So I started doing some informal Google searches for crimes committed by different professions, using -- for lack of a more efficient search method -- "professor arrested," "faculty arrested," etc. along with other professional categories. Combining "faculty" or "professor" and "crime" didn't work well (too many useless hits).
The highest, in that combination alone, was "teacher" (over 190,000 hits), but "mayor" still had more hits (over 27,000) than "faculty" or "professor" (about 14,000). Unfortunately, hits for "pastor," "minister," and "priest," added up to an uncomfortably high number, over 100,000, but then again, if we don't know how many pastors, etc. are out there, we have no percentage to compare them with faculty or other groups. My methodology is rudimentary, but I didn't see any demographic or statistical reports that covered this topic. So, unless we can document this so-called high rate of crime among faculty, perhaps the article should remain mute on the number, relative to other professions. After seeing some statistics about the correlation between educational level and prison population, it also seems like the prison population is much more likely to have no or little education. There are very few PhDs in prisons. Likewise, after seeing these figures, I would guess that the more one is educated, the less likely one is to get felonies or misdemeanors.

So, my question is: do any other contributors to this article have any data at all on this? Is it only anecdotal? If facts can't be documented, then they don't belong in these articles. Especially if the article is questioning the integrity of professors, including their intellectual integrity (like the Korean scientist who established his reputation on cooked data - about which I can find documentation), this article's information should be sound.

== Tony Blair ==

Huh? How is this not relevant to the article? He has no doctorate, he has been appointed to teach at Yale and he is a liberal politician. --[[User:KimSell|KimSell]] 10:19, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

: That appears simply to be a guest lecture appointment.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:42, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
:: You mean just like Al Gore?--[[User:KimSell|KimSell]] 10:54, 10 March 2008 (EDT)
::: Since you don't seem to mind guest lecturers being added to this list, I will put Tony Blair back.
== Really? ==

I just did a google search, and the first few pages of the 735 results don't have any signinifigance to subject at hand. So, here's my question: Did you just make this term up Andy? [[User:DLerner|DLerner]] 12:07, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

: There's a great deal of bias out there, DLerner. That's a reason why we're here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:10, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

:: Yes, Andy. But the problem is, there's a great deal of bias here too. Are there any articles critical of conservatives on this site? Believe me conservatives aren't perfect. You didn't answer my question, where is the term "Professor values" from? I know there are a lot of stupid people/policies on colleges (just watch the Penn & Teller episode on [[censorship]]) but that isn't the point. Where is the term from? [[User:DLerner|DLerner]] 12:16, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

:::Why are you critical of a neologism which points out a legitimate area of concern, DLerner? Examine the case studies, and perhaps you will appreciate why this article is a necessary one. [[User:Koba|Koba]] 12:34, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

::::Koba, the problem with making up a phrase like this is that it's really not meaningful, unless backed up by statistically valid evidence to justify it. Do Charlton Heston and John Wayne fit the profile of "Hollywood Values" as defined here? The examples mentioned in this article are as representative of professors as a category (i.e. a few out of thousands around the world), as they are of males. If this is the encyclopedic standard CP holds to, then I can create a page called "Right-handed values", describing the bad traits of right-handed people and backed by examples of the criminal behavior of some cherry-picked right-handed people, and it would pass muster based on examples like this page that ASchafly endorses.--[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:31, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

''The phrase Professor values refers to the lack of morals and values in the culture of college faculties, which is characterized by atheism, censorship, socialism, unjustified claims of expertise and knowledge, advocacy of liberal beliefs, liberal grading, liberal bias, anti-patriotism, plagiarism, false claims of credentials, lack of productivity, and promotion of sexual immorality.''

Has anyone else seen this "phrase" before? I looked for it. If it's a study, it belongs in an essay not in a article. Personally, I think Andy made it up. (It's a nice slogan though...)

If anyone can make up a term then write an article about it, how's this? "The phrase '''Criminal values''' refers to the lack of respect for the law..." [[User:DLerner|DLerner]] 12:59, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

:Indeed - see my comment under "What is this about?", above - which nobody has seen fit to reply to. The proliferation of these flimsy articles is making a mockery of Conservapedia. The latest such nonsense is [[Liberal drivel]], which I assume is a parody - but it's getting harder and harder to distinguish parody from real content. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 13:17, 10 March 2008 (EDT)

== Um... ==
This article serves no purpose... It should be an essay or opinion at the very most --[[User:Helps|Helps]] 11:14, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

What '''statistical''' evidence is there in this article of atheism, plagiarism, socialism
, censorship etc. This article makes unfounded claims. [[User:Angband|Angband]] 13:18, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

: Help find the support for those observations. It's not difficult to find. Thanks and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:47, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
:: That is the wrong way to answer a legitimate question, and does a disservice to the students you want using Conservapedia as a legitimate reference source. When a so-called encyclopedic article makes irrational assertions and offers no cited evidence to support them, people are going to question its validity. Your response, "The supporting evidence is out there, help us to find it.", is basically an endorsement of unacademic postings by biased individuals as long as the bias is conservative, and an insult to the moderates who want a Conservative Encyclopedia to be, well, encyclopedic.<br /> My suggestion is that if it's not that hard to find the supporting evidence, then the page should be removed until the author can find it him/herself and post it.<br /> I'm sure I'll be accused of "Liberal Denial" or "Liberal Apology", or some other "Liberal ---" behavior that's used in place of an academic response, but fair-minded people need to speak up about this.--[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 17:31, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:I've never been to College in my long life but I must agree. This article is sensationalist tabloidism at its very best. [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 13:49, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

== First paragraph of article is not adequately supported ==

I do think the listing of the growing problem of professors misdeeds section in the latter part of the article was very informative.

However, I don't think the footnote in the first paragraph adequately supports the first paragraphs contentions. Is plagiarism truly a professor value? If it is, there is absolutely no support for the contention. I don't think that plagiarism is a common value of professor although there may be certainly instances of it. I have read the scientific fraud in the way of fudging experimental results is a significant problem but I have not heard the same regarding plagiarism. I do know that puffing up ones resume is a significant problem in the USA, however, the contention that professors often do it was not supported.

In short, I think the initial paragraph does not follow the conservapedia commandments in regards to proper citation and support. I don't think it is reasonable to ask the reader to do the research for that is getting the cart before the horse. It is the writers job to support the material.

I do recommend the following conservative website in order to help provide adequate support for the article: Accuracy in Academia at http://www.academia.org/

In the meantime, I suggest the article to be pulled from the popular articles at Conservapedia until adequate support is given and that the article have a citation template put on it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 16:16, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

: This is a work-in-progress with 24 references already. There have been numerous instances of plagiarism by professors without any punishment, and those citations will be easy to fill in, and I welcome assistance. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:57, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:::It does appear as if liberals are over represented in academia with 90% of professors describing themselves as being liberals or moderates. [http://chronicle.com/temp/reprint.php?id=s1153nnhjkhr407r6ng6gjg8pvc8g2s8] Therefore, there does appear to be less conservatives in academia. So one would expect there to be more atheist in academia. At the same time , atheism is not a professor value as about 25% of philosophy professors are theist. [http://www.rzim.org/slice/slicetran.php?sliceid=880] In the business and engineering departments the percentage of professors being theist is probably higher given that they are more conservative. In regards to plagiarism being a professor value, many instances of professors committing this act does not necessarily constitute it being a professor value. There are a lot of professors in the USA and abroad so the real question what percentage of professors have engaged in plagiarism. In other words, you can can find many instances of men beating their wives in the United States but is wife beating a "male value"? I don't think it is. Again, it comes down to the percentage issue. So to sum up, I think the opening paragraph needs to be less expansive in its claims or provide additional support. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 17:47, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:Even if 25% of philosophy professors were theists, wouldn't this still be lower than the rate of theism in the population as a whole? I do agree with your post in that it should be examined by specific departments. At least at my school, some departments, such as Economics and Geography, do not seem particularly liberal, while a number of others clearly are. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 18:03, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
:::DanH, thank you for your polite and kind reply. I do think that liberal ideology and liberals are over represented in academia. However, to call something a "professor value" or "male value" while a significant portion of the population in question does not share a particular value would be over reaching in my estimation. And I do think, for example, that 25% of a given population not sharing a value would be a significant amount of people and be justification for saying a given characteristic was not a value of the population as a whole. However, you can fairly say that a certain value is over represented in a population as a whole if in fact it is. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:14, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

:::: Good cites, Conservative. I've added them. This entry is ranked #1 on Google and is emerging as a significant insight. Professors share a common value system, not unanimously, but in higher percentages of agreement than even some churches. It's enlightening to described the [[professor value]]s and note the harm caused by them. Ideas obviously do have consequences.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:38, 24 March 2008 (EDT)
::::: I have a feeling that the majority of the professors at Liberty University might take exception to this article, since by definition these descriptors apply to them. Also, being ranked #1 in this case has more to do with the topic not being recognized as a commonly-used term. If I wrote an article titled "Liberal Klingon Values" it would rank #1 for that search in no time, without being any more relevant.--[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 12:29, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

What constitutes "a relatively high" number of instances of crimes or other misdeeds? Compared to other professions? If so, then we'd need to document those comparisons. If there are over 1,200,000 professors currently active in the US alone, then the total cited cases here is an extremely small 0.00125% of that population, about 1.25 evildoers per 100,000 faculty -- and some cited were from former generations or from other countries. Given stats from the National Center for Educational Statistics, the total population of professors would easily be in the multiple millions (depending how far back we'd want to go), making the percentage of the population amazingly miniscule. Some of the crimes or other behavior in the list refers to things that the general public is probably even more likely to do, including stalking family, drug possession, etc. -- in other words, not things that are unique to professors at all. I'd say the % of pastors and other religious leaders who have gotten themselves into hot water is embarrassingly high (sexual immorality, misuse of church funds, etc.) and perhaps higher than that of the professoriate. Maybe comparing the professors to the general population would show that professors are more or less likely than the general population to commit crimes. Also, to be fair and honest according to the Commandments, this article should report the academic/moral/financial misdeeds -- some very high profile -- of conservative academics, including events at several Christian colleges and universities, indluding former faculty and university presidents. Making unfounded statements in an encyclopedia article, especially if the statements are inflammatory, is antithetical to the whole idea of honest scholarship -- which is ironic, considering the topic of this article! [[User:CPlantin|CPlantin]] 09:25, 26 March 2008 (CDT)

== Title of the article should be "liberals and academia" and not "professor values" ==

I do believe upon sound research that people are not going to find this article based on a search of "professor values".

Here are the Google results of "professor values" and you will notice that all 715 results have nothing to do with the article we have: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Professor+Values%22&hl=en&start=10&sa=N

On the other hand if you do a search on "liberals in academia" you will get 8,450 results and all are related to our article: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22liberals+in+academia%22&btnG=Search

While I do think it is great to have a #1 Google entry in terms of getting exposure to Conservapedia I do think you have to begin with the end in mind and bring people to Conservapedia who are interested in a particular issue. I do realize that it is sometimes beneficial to pursue long tail marketing and dominate less competitive search queries over a long period of time, however, it does not appear as if anyone is typing in "professor values" to find the subject material of our article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:33, 24 March 2008 (EDT)

I hesitate to point this out again (I mentioned it above), but what of crimes and other misdeeds committed by conservative academics? A number of leaders of Christian colleges and universities have, for example, abused authority, horribly misused funds for private -- and sometimes extravagant -- entertainment, travel, or shopping, or have had immoral sexual affairs. Not including information about these instances, or even acknowleding their existence, is a serious and dishonest error of omission. [[User:CPlantin|CPlantin]] 09:28, 25 March 2008 (CDT)

==Professor Values on Wikipedia==

Seems the article was put up on Wikipedia and is now up for deletion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Values

This thing really doesn't belong on an encyclopedia. [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 07:18, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

:Not on wikipedia, maybe (not least, because it was ''plagiarized'' from here!) - but it seems perfectly at home in this encyclopedia. [[User:Humblpi|Humblpi]] 12:21, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

:: I bet you think [[Hollywood values]] should be censored also!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:12, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

::: Actually, yeah, that's a dumb article too. --[[User:DJBlair|DJBlair]] 14:20, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

:Yes, I think any article that is just 'made up' is neither trustworthy or encyclopedic. I wouldn't let my kids near this site (or Wikipedia for that matter, but thats a story for another day) [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 20:20, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

::In a strange bout of irony the WP ''Professor Values'' article now ranks higher than the CP version. [[User:TheGySom|TheGySom]] 08:24, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

==Catholic schools==

Should abuse by priests in catholic schools deserve its own article entitles, [[Priest Values]]? Of course not, because the abuse committed by some priests is not indicative of the entire group. [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 20:42, 25 March 2008 (EDT)
:You're making a big mistake, you think this "encyclopedia"  is governed by logic and reason, it isn't. -- '''[[user:DLerner|<font color="#DD00DD" face="comic sans ms">D L e r n e r</font>]]''' <sup>[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DLerner Articulate] </sup> 20:48, 25 March 2008 (EDT)

:: DLerner was blocked for his repeated derogatory comments, and "LeaningRight" you should be blocked for your 90/10 [[rule]] violation against talk, talk, talk.

:: This [[professor values]] lists the commonly held values and consequences of those values. Your suggestion does not fit that model, and your suggestion is ludicrous.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:17, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

:Whatever. By the way, check my contributions, specifically to the India article. I have not broken any rules that I know of. [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 13:31, 26 March 2008 (EDT)
:This is a link to my mainspace contributions: http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?offset=&limit=50&target=LeaningRight&title=Special%3AContributions&namespace=0 [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 13:33, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

:: LeaningRight, you wrote, "I have not broken any rules that I know of." That is known as [[deliberate ignorance]], and it's not an excuse. Your last ten contributions have been all talk, and that violates the 90/10 [[rule]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:32, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

:Please have a little respect and don't talk to me like a child. I'm a middle aged man with children and I find that highly disrespectful. Have a glance at my contributions. I wasn't even aware of this 90/10 rule until you brought it up so its ignorance, but not 'deliberate'. [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 15:26, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

:: You responded to my citation to our very simple set of [[rules]] with "Whatever" and "I have not broken any rules that I know of." Your response was ''after'' I directed you to the very simple set of rules.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:10, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

:Go and meet someone who doesn't agree with what you believe. I can guarantee you it will be quite refreshing. I'm taking a week off before I lose any faith I have ever had in the American people. [[User:LeaningRight|LeaningRight]] 16:15, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

::You really ought to watch how you talk to good editors, Andy. Your attitude isn't helping Conservapedia one bit. [[User:ShaggerNorris|ShaggerNorris]] 18:30, 26 March 2008 (EDT)

Clement Attlee

2008-03-26T22:14:06Z

ShaggerNorris:

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The Right Honorable '''Clement Richard Attlee''', 1st Earl Attlee (3 January 1883 - 8 October 1967) was the Prime Minister of the [[United Kingdom]] from 1945 to 1951. He was a member of the [[Labour Party]], and is remembered as the leader of the strongly socialist government that was elected in the aftermath of [[World War II]]. During the war, he served as [[Winston Churchill]]'s Deputy Prime Minister.

Attlee was born in Putney, a middle-class [[London]] suburb, in 1883. Educated at Haileybury and University College, [[Oxford]] he became a barrister in 1906. Attlee developed an interest in social problems while doing voluntary work at a boy's club in Stepney. Converted to socialism by reading the works of [[John Ruskin]] and [[William Morris]], in 1913 Attlee became a tutor at the [[London School of Economics.]]

In 1914 Attlee joined the [[British Army]] and served in Gallipoli and Mesopotamia, where he was badly wounded at El Hanna. After recovering back in England, Attlee was sent to [[France]] in 1918 and served on the Western Front for the last few months of the war. By the end of the [[First World War]] Attlee reached the rank of major.

After the war Attlee returned to teaching at the [[London School of Economics]]. Attlee, a member of the [[Labour Party]], became involved in local politics and in 1919 was elected Mayor of Stepney.

In the 1922 General Election he was elected Labour MP for Limehouse in London. [[Ramsay MacDonald]], the leader of the party in the House of Commons, recruited Attlee as his parliamentary secretary (1922-24). In the 1924 Labour Government Attlee was appointed as Under Secretary of State for War.

After the Labour Party victory in the 1929 General Election, MacDonald appointed Attlee as postmaster-general. However, like most ministers, Attlee refused to serve in the National Government formed by MacDonald in 1931. Attlee was one of the few Labour MPs to win his seat in the 1931 General Election and became deputy leader of the party under George Lansbury.

When Lansbury retired in 1935 Attlee became the new leader of the Labour Party. During the [[Spanish Civil War]] he supported the non-national combatants from Britain fighting against General Francisco Franco and visited the [[International Brigades]] on the front-line in December 1937.

In 1940 Attlee joined the coalition government headed by [[Winston Churchill]]. He was virtually deputy Prime Minister although this post did not formally become his until 1942. It was afterwards claimed that during the Second World War Attlee worked as a restraining influence on some of Churchill's more wilder schemes.

In the 1945 General Election Attlee lead the Labour Party to its largest victory at the polls. During his six years in office he carried through a vigorous program of reform. The [[Bank of England]], the coal mines, civil aviation, cable and wireless services, gas, electricity, railways, road transport and steel were all nationalized. The National Health Service was introduced and independence was granted to [[India]] (1947) and [[Burma]] (1948).

In April 1950 Attlee's already weak position (the Labour majority in the House of Commons had been reduced to six) further deteriorated when two Labour leaders, Aneurin Bevan and Harold Wilson (afterward Prime Minister), resigned from the government over the introduction of National Health-service charges, that were bitterly opposed by the public. He stayed on as leader after the narrow defeat in the election of 1951, but when the Conservatives increased their majority in the General Election of 1955, Attlee resigned. On yielding the party leadership in December 1955, he was created an Earl. In 1937 he published ''The Labour Party in Perspective'' and in 1954 his memoirs, ''As It Happened''. He was active in the [[House of Lords]] until his death in 1967. <ref>http://www.mdlg05075.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/attlee.htm</ref>

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Enoch Powell

2008-03-26T20:58:50Z

ShaggerNorris:

'''John Enoch Powell''' (June 16, 1912 – February 8, 1998) was a British [[conservative]] [[British]] politician.
Born in Birmingham, Enoch Powell was educated at King Edward’s School, Birmingham, then Trinity College, Cambridge. In 1937 he was appointed Professor of Greek at Sydney University at the age of 25. In 1939 he returned to Britain to enlist in the army as a private. Although commissioned on the General List, he was soon transferred to the Intelligence Corps and transferred to Cairo. He was actually fluent in the languages used by the armies: French, Italian and German. In August 1943 he was posted to Delhi. By the end of the war he had risen to the rank of brigadier.

He joined the [[Conservative Party]] and was elected to the British parliament in 1950 as Conservative Member of Parliament for Wolverhampton South West, a constituency he held until 1974. He was Parliamentary Secretary for the Ministry of Housing and Local Government (1955–1957), Financial Secretary to the Treasury (1957–1958) and Minister of Health (1960–1963).

He often warned of the dangers of immigration and multiracialism and their affects on national identity, and was expelled from the shadow cabinet of [[Conservative Party]] leader [[Edward Heath]] in 1968 after his notoriously inflammatory 'Rivers of Blood' speech. He also opposed Britain's membership of the European Economic Community (EEC) (now the [[European Union]]), which he believed undermined British sovereignty.

By 1974 Powell was so disillusioned with the Conservative Party policy on the EEC that he decided not to stand as a candidate at the general election and urged the public to vote for the [[Labour Party]], which promised a referendum on the question. For a short while he believed that his political life was over but in October 1974 he was invited to stand as [[Ulster Unionist Party]] candidate for South Down, and won the seat. He spent the rest of his parliamentary career until 1987 serving this constituency.

In 1994 he published his translation of St Matthew's Gospel.

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[[Category:British Politics]]

Houses of Parliament

2008-03-26T20:50:45Z

ShaggerNorris:

The '''Houses of Parliament''' in [[London]] are where the British Parliament meets. They are located in the Palace of Westminster in the heart of London. The building is so named as it isn officially a royal palace, although no monarch has set foot in the House of Commons, the lower house, since [[Charles I]] attempted to arrest five members in 1642. The building of the Houses of Parliament, a well-known symbol of London, is relatively new, being opened only in 1840. The Commons chamnber is even newer, being bombed in 1941 and reconstructed after the [[Second World War]]. The clock tower at the northern end of the Palace is often referred to as 'Big Ben', although that name, strictly speaking, applies only to the main bell of the clock in the tower.

The main legislative chamber is the House of Commons where the elected representatives meet. Elected representatives are called Members of Parliament or MP's. MP's sit on green benches. There are 2 lines facing each other. The Government benches are on one side. The opposition benches are on the other side.

Palace of Westminster

2008-03-26T20:44:19Z

ShaggerNorris: Redirecting to Houses of Parliament

#REDIRECT [[Houses of Parliament]]