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Original Ordered Young's Literal Translation

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'''Original Ordered Young's Literal Translation''' (OOYLT) is [[Young's Literal Translation]] (YLT) arranged in the original order. OOYLT was released in 2013.
 

The bible originally was 49 books and was maliciously rearranged by Jerome to 66 books. OOYLT is YLT rearranged to the original order. There is no translation
work done. Credits belong to the late Robert Young for translating YLT.
 

66 is not a good number. 6 is the number of man. 666 is the number of the devil. The bible being 66 books symbolizes that the bible was altered by man
inspired by the devil. 7 represents God's completeness. 49 is God's completeness emphasized. The bible being 49 books symbolizes God's plan of redemption
for man is complete.
 

17 books are not missing, but merged. For example, 12 minor prophet books are combined to one "minor prophets" book.
 

OOYLT is public domain.
 

== Related References ==
* [http://www.ooylt.info/OOYLT/TOC.html OOYLT text]
* [http://www.ooylt.info/BibleArticles/Introduction.html OOYLT Introduction]

{{Bible Versions}}

[[Category:Bible Versions]]

Template talk:Bible Versions

2016-07-27T21:43:19Z

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Can we get the Complete Jewish Bible in this template?

It would fit in "20th century" since it is written in 1998
--[[User:Ecomitz|Ecomitz]] 14:20, 17 May 2012 (EDT)

==Textus Receptus==
I wrote an article on [[Textus Receptus]]. Would that be appropriate for this template? [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] 03:13, 9 January 2014 (EST)

==added two bibles==
I added

Young's Literal Translation 1898
http://www.conservapedia.com/Young's_Literal_Translation

Original Ordered Young's Literal Translation 2013
http://www.conservapedia.com/Original_Ordered_Young's_Literal_Translation

Can these two bibles be added to the Bible Versions Template?

Thank!
Raymond

Bible translations

2016-07-23T04:33:09Z

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{{Christianity}}
The original translation of the Bible was the [[Septuagint]] (known as the "LXX"), which was Greek translation of the [[Hebrew]] [[Bible]] ([[Old Testament]]). It is the oldest version of the [[Bible]] [[extant]] today.<ref>http://www.ecmarsh.com/lxx/</ref> This is the version of the Old Testament was used by [[Jesus]] and His followers, and few disputed interpretations in that Bible (such as the prophesy of a virgin birth of the [[Messiah]]) were carried over into the [[New Testament]].

The second translation of the Scriptures was the Peshitta. In 36 A.D., both the Queen of Adiabene, known in Greek as Queen Helena (not the mother of Constantine) and known to the Jews as Queen ShlomZion ("Peace of Zion"), and her son King Ezad (Izates)were converted to Judaism. Queen Helena was buried in the grand tomb complex in East Jerusalem - formally thought to be the Tomb of the Kings. Her palace complex takes up the full half of the Hill of the City of David as reconstructered by Israeli archaeologist, Mikhael Avi-Yonah (reconstruction now in the Israel Museum, Jerusalem). Queen Helena's conversion, as well as others of the Kingdom, greatly furthered the already developing translation of the Hebrew Scriptures in her Kingdom's language - Aramaic. That developing (on up to 5th Cent. redactions) translation came to be known as the Peshitta - meaning simple or common speech, in much the same way as the Hebrew Bible would be translated into Latin by Jerome, with extensive help from a Rabbi,and the resultant translation would be called the Vulgate - meaning simple or common speech. The Peshitta, retaining elements of the then Jewish "targumic" (interpretive) and other Jewish understandings of the Hebrew Bible, is primarily based on the Pre-Masoretic Hebrew Scriptures - though certain books, such as the Prophet Isaiah,are translations primarily from the Septuagint (The Peshitta Book of Proverbs, however, and the Targum of Proverbs are almost identical). (A History of Christianity in Asia, Volume l, Samuel Hugh Moffett,orbis, 1998, pg. 70). See [[Targum]] for the early centuries Rabbinic interpretive literature and its application to both Old and New Testament studies. (The development of the Old Testament Peshitta translation is held by some to have taken place alternatively in Adiabene's nearby neighbor Edessa).

As Thomas and his followers went to India, others (possibly Adai (Thaddeus), the Galilean from Caesarea Phillipi among them) arrived in Adiabene, and having gone (probably to the synagogues first, as did the Apostle Paul), they found already, if not a populous, then an elite governmental element, conversant with the biblical message in Aramaic. From these people, hearing the preaching of the messengers from Israel, came believers in Jesus Christ, and soon after, came the translation of the Greek New Testament Scriptures into Aramaic, and so the Peshitta was added to by inclusion of the New Testament in Aramaic. Unlike the Greek canon of the New Testament Scriptures, the Peshitta originally did not include the following books: the Second Epistle of Peter, the Second Epistle of John, the Third Epistle of John, the Epistle of Jude and the Book of Revelation. But these books translated into the Syriac (as Christian Aramaic is known) are part of the Peshitta now and used by the Aramaic-based churches, primarily in India and the Middle East.

The Protestants rely primarily on the untranslated Masoretic Hebrew Texts, while the Greek Orthodox Church relies primarily on the Septuagint. The Septuagint fell into disuse among Jews for two reasons - 1. Greek speaking Christians were using the Septuagint in their efforts to bring Jews to faith in Jesus Christ 2. A number of the Apocryphal books were also apocalyptic, that is, focusing on the last days, the Kingdom of God in battle against the kingdoms of this world and the downfall of this world's empires. This was considered dangerous and liable to provoke Rome against the Jews. Alternative Greek translations to the Septuagint, the Septuagint being considered "loose", were adopted by the Rabbis. These were the translations of three proselytes to Judaism, Theodosius, Aquilas, and Symmachus. The Jewish Rabbinic "Council" of Jamnia (Yavneh on the Mediterraenian coast of Israel) in 90 A.D., under the leadership of Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai, effectively excluded the Apocraphal books (along with the Septuagint) from the Jewish Canon by requiring, for a book to be considered canonical, that it have been written in Hebrew (and Aramaic). Actually, a number of the apocryphal books, or portions thereof, had been written originally in Hebrew, most notably, the Book of Ben Sirach (Ecclesiasticus) found in Hebrew at Qumran with the rest of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but this was unknown to Yohanan Ben Zakkai and the Council of Jamnia in the first century. Under the impetus of Renaissance learning, Protestant scholars, now able to translate the Bible directly from the original languages of Hebrew and Greek, instead of having to go through the Latin Vulgate, went directly to the Hebrew text. But this was the Hebrew text (eventually to be called the "Massoretic text") of the canon of books that had been authorized by the Council of Jamnia. In this way, most Protestant churches came to not include the Apocryphal books in their Canon of Scripture.

The Roman Catholic Church relies primarily on the Latin [[Vulgate]], which is a translation of the Septuagint into Latin by [[Jerome]] around A.D. 400.

There is no fully [[conservative]] translation of the Bible as of 2009. All modern translations avoid references to Hell and allow feminist ideology to change the meaning in key places (e.g., "sons of God" becomes "children of God," which has a very different connotation). The best modern versions are listed in chronological order below, with their shortcomings noted:

*[[King James Version]] (limited by arcane English as of 1611, before many [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|new conservative terms]] developed; lacks quotation marks; losing popularity)
*[[New American Standard Bible]] (includes many passages of doubtful authenticity but uses notes and italics to mark such passages; becoming dated itself)
*[[New International Version]] (lowered to the 7th grade level with many unpublicized, [[liberal]] word changes, as in purging references to the unborn child<ref>The NIV changed "from his mother's womb" to "from birth" (Luke 1:15), "cornerstone" to "capstone" in referencing Christ, and "Lucifer" to "morning star" in referencing Satan (Isaiah 14:12).</ref>)
*[[English Standard Version]] A revision of the scholarly [[Revised Standard Version]] that meets the objections of conservative Christians
*[[Holman Christian Standard Bible]] (has some unisex, gender-inclusive language, as in "fish for people" (Mt 4:19))

In addition, all of the above translations except the King James Version downplay the existence of [[Hell]].

The major translations of the [[Bible]] into [[English]] include:

*[[Geneva Bible]] (the first full-length English translation of the Bible, and the one used by [[Puritans]])
*[[Douay-Rheims]]
*[[Douay-Challoner]]
*[[King James Version]] (also known as the [[Authorised Version]])
*[[Revised Standard Version]]
*[[New Revised Standard Version]]
*[[New International Version]]
*[[Today's New International Version]]
*[[New English Bible]]
*[[Amplified Bible]]
*[[Living Bible]]
*[[English Standard Version]]
*[[New American Standard Bible]]
*[[New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures]]
*[[Confraternity Bible]]
*[[New American Bible]]
*[[New Jerusalem Bible]]
*[[Jerusalem Bible]]
*[[Good News Bible]]
*[[New King James Version]]
*[[New Living Translation]]
*[[Complete Bible - An American Translation]]
*[[Bible In Living English]]
*[[American Standard Version]]
*[[Holman Christian Standard Bible]]<ref>http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=77</ref>
*[[New Century Version]]
*[[The NET Bible]]<ref>http://bible.org/netbible/index.htm</ref>
*The Lamsa Bible<ref>[http://aramaicpeshitta.com/George%20Lamsa.htm A translation of the Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts by scholar Dr. George M. Lamsa]</ref>
*[[Common English Bible]]
*[[Young's Literal Translation]]
*[[Original Ordered Young's Literal Translation]]
Interlinear Translations

*[[Interlinear NIV Hebrew-English Old Testament]]
*[[Emphatic Diaglott]] Greek-English New Testament

==Ease of reading==
'''Fog Index'''

*Good News Bible: 9.9
*Holman Christian Bible: 10.0
*New International Version: 10.5
*English Standard Version: 11.7
*New American Standard Bible: 12.5
*King James Version: 13.5<ref>"[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/adrianwarnock/2005/08/is-esv-easy-reading-bible-translation/ Is the ESV the "easy-reading" bible translation?]". Corrected [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/adrianwarnock/2005/08/esv-not-the-easiest-read-after-all/ here].</ref>

== References ==

<references/>

== See also ==
*[[Essay: The superiority of the King James Bible: Looking through!]]
*[http://ellisonresearch.com/ERPS%20II/release%209%20versions.htm Analysis of the popularity of the major translations]
*[http://www.americanbible.org/absport/news/item.php?id=63 Listing, with book covers, of all the English translations with a brief description of each]
*[[Disputed Biblical Translations]]
*[http://www.biblestudytools.net/ParallelBible/ Compare translations]
*[http://bible.cc/ Translations compared on one page, verse by verse]
*[http://etext.virginia.edu/kjv.browse.html [[KJV]] searchable version]
*[[Word Analysis of Bible]]
*[[Feminist Bible]]
*[http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/subjectstart?BS Many Bibles in pdf, including English Revised Version]
*[http://www.studylight.org/ Superb Bible searching tool that includes the older Wycliffe and Tyndale Bibles]

[[Category:Bible Versions|*]]

Original Ordered Young's Literal Translation

2016-07-23T04:30:55Z

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'''Original Ordered Young's Literal Translation''' (OOYLT) is [[Young's Literal Translation]] (YLT) arranged in the original order. OOYLT was released in 2013.
 

The bible originally was 49 books and was maliciously rearranged by Jerome to 66 books. OOYLT is YLT rearranged to the original order. There is no translation
work done. Credits belong to the late Robert Young for translating YLT.
 

66 is not a good number. 6 is the number of man. 666 is the number of the devil. The bible being 66 books symbolizes that the bible was altered by man
inspired by the devil. 7 represents God's completeness. 49 is God's completeness emphasized. The bible being 49 books symbolizes God's plan of redemption
for man is complete.
 

17 books are not missing, but merged. For example, 12 minor prophet books are combined to one "minor prophets" book.
 

OOYLT is public domain.
 

== Related References ==
* [http://ooylt.onlinewebshop.net/OOYLT/TOC.html OOYLT text]
* [http://ooylt.onlinewebshop.net/BibleArticles/Introduction.html OOYLT Introduction]

{{Bible Versions}}

[[Category:Bible Versions]]

Bible translations

2016-07-22T20:46:38Z

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{{Christianity}}
The original translation of the Bible was the [[Septuagint]] (known as the "LXX"), which was Greek translation of the [[Hebrew]] [[Bible]] ([[Old Testament]]). It is the oldest version of the [[Bible]] [[extant]] today.<ref>http://www.ecmarsh.com/lxx/</ref> This is the version of the Old Testament was used by [[Jesus]] and His followers, and few disputed interpretations in that Bible (such as the prophesy of a virgin birth of the [[Messiah]]) were carried over into the [[New Testament]].

The second translation of the Scriptures was the Peshitta. In 36 A.D., both the Queen of Adiabene, known in Greek as Queen Helena (not the mother of Constantine) and known to the Jews as Queen ShlomZion ("Peace of Zion"), and her son King Ezad (Izates)were converted to Judaism. Queen Helena was buried in the grand tomb complex in East Jerusalem - formally thought to be the Tomb of the Kings. Her palace complex takes up the full half of the Hill of the City of David as reconstructered by Israeli archaeologist, Mikhael Avi-Yonah (reconstruction now in the Israel Museum, Jerusalem). Queen Helena's conversion, as well as others of the Kingdom, greatly furthered the already developing translation of the Hebrew Scriptures in her Kingdom's language - Aramaic. That developing (on up to 5th Cent. redactions) translation came to be known as the Peshitta - meaning simple or common speech, in much the same way as the Hebrew Bible would be translated into Latin by Jerome, with extensive help from a Rabbi,and the resultant translation would be called the Vulgate - meaning simple or common speech. The Peshitta, retaining elements of the then Jewish "targumic" (interpretive) and other Jewish understandings of the Hebrew Bible, is primarily based on the Pre-Masoretic Hebrew Scriptures - though certain books, such as the Prophet Isaiah,are translations primarily from the Septuagint (The Peshitta Book of Proverbs, however, and the Targum of Proverbs are almost identical). (A History of Christianity in Asia, Volume l, Samuel Hugh Moffett,orbis, 1998, pg. 70). See [[Targum]] for the early centuries Rabbinic interpretive literature and its application to both Old and New Testament studies. (The development of the Old Testament Peshitta translation is held by some to have taken place alternatively in Adiabene's nearby neighbor Edessa).

As Thomas and his followers went to India, others (possibly Adai (Thaddeus), the Galilean from Caesarea Phillipi among them) arrived in Adiabene, and having gone (probably to the synagogues first, as did the Apostle Paul), they found already, if not a populous, then an elite governmental element, conversant with the biblical message in Aramaic. From these people, hearing the preaching of the messengers from Israel, came believers in Jesus Christ, and soon after, came the translation of the Greek New Testament Scriptures into Aramaic, and so the Peshitta was added to by inclusion of the New Testament in Aramaic. Unlike the Greek canon of the New Testament Scriptures, the Peshitta originally did not include the following books: the Second Epistle of Peter, the Second Epistle of John, the Third Epistle of John, the Epistle of Jude and the Book of Revelation. But these books translated into the Syriac (as Christian Aramaic is known) are part of the Peshitta now and used by the Aramaic-based churches, primarily in India and the Middle East.

The Protestants rely primarily on the untranslated Masoretic Hebrew Texts, while the Greek Orthodox Church relies primarily on the Septuagint. The Septuagint fell into disuse among Jews for two reasons - 1. Greek speaking Christians were using the Septuagint in their efforts to bring Jews to faith in Jesus Christ 2. A number of the Apocryphal books were also apocalyptic, that is, focusing on the last days, the Kingdom of God in battle against the kingdoms of this world and the downfall of this world's empires. This was considered dangerous and liable to provoke Rome against the Jews. Alternative Greek translations to the Septuagint, the Septuagint being considered "loose", were adopted by the Rabbis. These were the translations of three proselytes to Judaism, Theodosius, Aquilas, and Symmachus. The Jewish Rabbinic "Council" of Jamnia (Yavneh on the Mediterraenian coast of Israel) in 90 A.D., under the leadership of Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai, effectively excluded the Apocraphal books (along with the Septuagint) from the Jewish Canon by requiring, for a book to be considered canonical, that it have been written in Hebrew (and Aramaic). Actually, a number of the apocryphal books, or portions thereof, had been written originally in Hebrew, most notably, the Book of Ben Sirach (Ecclesiasticus) found in Hebrew at Qumran with the rest of the Dead Sea Scrolls, but this was unknown to Yohanan Ben Zakkai and the Council of Jamnia in the first century. Under the impetus of Renaissance learning, Protestant scholars, now able to translate the Bible directly from the original languages of Hebrew and Greek, instead of having to go through the Latin Vulgate, went directly to the Hebrew text. But this was the Hebrew text (eventually to be called the "Massoretic text") of the canon of books that had been authorized by the Council of Jamnia. In this way, most Protestant churches came to not include the Apocryphal books in their Canon of Scripture.

The Roman Catholic Church relies primarily on the Latin [[Vulgate]], which is a translation of the Septuagint into Latin by [[Jerome]] around A.D. 400.

There is no fully [[conservative]] translation of the Bible as of 2009. All modern translations avoid references to Hell and allow feminist ideology to change the meaning in key places (e.g., "sons of God" becomes "children of God," which has a very different connotation). The best modern versions are listed in chronological order below, with their shortcomings noted:

*[[King James Version]] (limited by arcane English as of 1611, before many [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|new conservative terms]] developed; lacks quotation marks; losing popularity)
*[[New American Standard Bible]] (includes many passages of doubtful authenticity but uses notes and italics to mark such passages; becoming dated itself)
*[[New International Version]] (lowered to the 7th grade level with many unpublicized, [[liberal]] word changes, as in purging references to the unborn child<ref>The NIV changed "from his mother's womb" to "from birth" (Luke 1:15), "cornerstone" to "capstone" in referencing Christ, and "Lucifer" to "morning star" in referencing Satan (Isaiah 14:12).</ref>)
*[[English Standard Version]] A revision of the scholarly [[Revised Standard Version]] that meets the objections of conservative Christians
*[[Holman Christian Standard Bible]] (has some unisex, gender-inclusive language, as in "fish for people" (Mt 4:19))

In addition, all of the above translations except the King James Version downplay the existence of [[Hell]].

The major translations of the [[Bible]] into [[English]] include:

*[[Geneva Bible]] (the first full-length English translation of the Bible, and the one used by [[Puritans]])
*[[Douay-Rheims]]
*[[Douay-Challoner]]
*[[King James Version]] (also known as the [[Authorised Version]])
*[[Revised Standard Version]]
*[[New Revised Standard Version]]
*[[New International Version]]
*[[Today's New International Version]]
*[[New English Bible]]
*[[Amplified Bible]]
*[[Living Bible]]
*[[English Standard Version]]
*[[New American Standard Bible]]
*[[New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures]]
*[[Confraternity Bible]]
*[[New American Bible]]
*[[New Jerusalem Bible]]
*[[Jerusalem Bible]]
*[[Good News Bible]]
*[[New King James Version]]
*[[New Living Translation]]
*[[Complete Bible - An American Translation]]
*[[Bible In Living English]]
*[[American Standard Version]]
*[[Holman Christian Standard Bible]]<ref>http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=77</ref>
*[[New Century Version]]
*[[The NET Bible]]<ref>http://bible.org/netbible/index.htm</ref>
*The Lamsa Bible<ref>[http://aramaicpeshitta.com/George%20Lamsa.htm A translation of the Bible from Ancient Eastern Manuscripts by scholar Dr. George M. Lamsa]</ref>
*[[Common English Bible]]
*[[Young's Literal Translation]]

Interlinear Translations

*[[Interlinear NIV Hebrew-English Old Testament]]
*[[Emphatic Diaglott]] Greek-English New Testament

==Ease of reading==
'''Fog Index'''

*Good News Bible: 9.9
*Holman Christian Bible: 10.0
*New International Version: 10.5
*English Standard Version: 11.7
*New American Standard Bible: 12.5
*King James Version: 13.5<ref>"[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/adrianwarnock/2005/08/is-esv-easy-reading-bible-translation/ Is the ESV the "easy-reading" bible translation?]". Corrected [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/adrianwarnock/2005/08/esv-not-the-easiest-read-after-all/ here].</ref>

== References ==

<references/>

== See also ==
*[[Essay: The superiority of the King James Bible: Looking through!]]
*[http://ellisonresearch.com/ERPS%20II/release%209%20versions.htm Analysis of the popularity of the major translations]
*[http://www.americanbible.org/absport/news/item.php?id=63 Listing, with book covers, of all the English translations with a brief description of each]
*[[Disputed Biblical Translations]]
*[http://www.biblestudytools.net/ParallelBible/ Compare translations]
*[http://bible.cc/ Translations compared on one page, verse by verse]
*[http://etext.virginia.edu/kjv.browse.html [[KJV]] searchable version]
*[[Word Analysis of Bible]]
*[[Feminist Bible]]
*[http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/subjectstart?BS Many Bibles in pdf, including English Revised Version]
*[http://www.studylight.org/ Superb Bible searching tool that includes the older Wycliffe and Tyndale Bibles]

[[Category:Bible Versions|*]]

Young's Literal Translation

2016-07-22T20:42:29Z

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'''Young's Literal Translation''' or '''YLT''' is a translation by late Robert Young. The 3rd and final edition was released 1898 by the publisher after the
author passed away. This translation is public domain.

YLT is a strict word to word translation of the Greek and Hebrew texts. The author reasoned, in YLT preface of the revised edition,

<blockquote>
''If a translation gives a present tense when the original gives a past, or a past when it has a present; a perfect for a future, or a future for a perfect;
an a for a the, or a the for an a; an imperative for a subjunctive, or a subjunctive for an imperative; a verb for a noun, or a noun for a verb, it is clear
that verbal inspiration is as much overlooked as if it had no existence. THE WORD OF GOD IS MADE VOID BY THE TRADITIONS OF MEN.''
 
 

''A strictly literal rendering may not be so pleasant to the ear as one where the apparent sense is chiefly aimed at, yet it is not euphony but truth that
ought to be sought, and where in such a version as the one commonly in use in this country, there are scarcely two consecutive verses where there is not
some departure from the original such as those indicated, and where these variations may be counted by tens of thousands, as admitted on all hands, it is
difficult to see how verbal inspiration can be of the least practical use to those who depend upon that version alone. ''
</blockquote>

For the Greek NT, YLT used the "Received Text". A full lenghty discussion of YLT can be found in preface (see external links).
 

== Related References ==
* [http://www.ccel.org/bible/ylt/ylt.htm Online YLT (including preface)] .
* [http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/encyc12/Page_490.html About Robert Young].
* [http://www.htmlbible.com/ Online or Download YLT] (scroll 90%).
 

{{Bible Versions}}

[[Category:Bible Versions]]