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Talk:Attack on Pearl Harbor

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Rcollins: Remember Pearl Harbor

== Remember Pearl Harbor ==

2008
--[[User:Rcollins|Rcollins03]] 20:42, 7 December 2008 (EST)

Talk:Battle of Marathon

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Yes. There is also the Philippides article saying much the same thing. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 23:06, 1 June 2007 (EDT)

== Dont Merge ==

just expand and flesh out some details and you have a decent article [[User:Rcollins|Rcollins03]] 21:45, 5 December 2008 (EST)

Bolt

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'''Bolt''' usually refers to a type of fastener similar to a screw.

Bolt may refer to:

A '''bolt''' is also a unit of [[lightning]].

A '''bolt''' is also a bulk measure of [[fabric]].

A '''[[bolt (firearm)|bolt]]''' used blocks the rear of the chamber while the powder burns

[[Category:Simple Machines]][[Category:Meteorology]]

Bolt (firearm)

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A '''bolt''' is a mechanical part of a [[firearm]] that blocks the rear of the [[Chamber (weaponry)|chamber]] while the powder burns.<ref>http://www.notpurfect.com/main/fullauto.htm Full Auto</ref>

In a [[bolt action]], the bolt is held fixed by its locking lugs, forcing all the expanding gas forward.

In a [[semi-automatic firearm]], the bolt cycles back and forward between each shot, propelled by expanding gas (back) or the recoil spring (forward). When it moves forward, it strips a cartridge from the [[Magazine (firearm)|magazine]] and pushes it into the chamber. When it moves back, the [[Extractor (firearms)|extractor]] pulls the spent casing from the chamber. Once the case is clear of the chamber, the ejector kicks the case out of the weapon. The extractor and [[firing pin]] are often integral parts of the bolt.

==See also==

==References==
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Conservapedia talk:Obama straw poll

2008-11-29T01:04:18Z

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We should probably divide it up into several issues. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] (CPAdmin1)[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]] 11:31, 27 November 2008 (EST)

:Two that come to mind are religion and birthplace. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:38, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::The number of his gaffes. --[[User:MugiK|MugiK]] 11:39, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::First Black President maybe. It seems that Andy is trying to deny him that title as well. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] (CPAdmin1)[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]] 11:43, 27 November 2008 (EST)

:Shouldn't the Obama article simply follow the example set by the other articles about politicians both in style and tone? When you compare for example [[John McCain]], [[Bill Clinton]], and [[Barack Obama]], the choice should be clear.
:"Some conservatives" (Who?) say that he's a Muslim, and "some conservatives" (Who?) insist he wasn't born in Hawaii. I'm pretty sure that "some liberals" also insisted on quite a few things when [[George W. Bush]] became President, but you don't see every accusation in the article (judging from a quick look at least). Sarah Palin did drugs, Obama did drugs, but only the Obama article says it (to be fair, at least in Palin's case, it had been legal at the time, but that doesn't make it any better in my eyes). Maybe one standard for all articles would help us more than deciding just how far to move the Obama article away from the standard set by the other articles? --[[User:AlanS|AlanS]] 11:53, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::Yes...Shouldn't all articles (political or not) stick to the evidence for and against, and leave the speculation and editorializing for talk pages and essays?--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 12:37, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::: Wikipedia has an ignored-when-it-suits policy of not taking sides but presenting the evidence for and against (for example, it takes sides in the creation/evolution debate). Conservapedia, in contrast, is prepared to take a stand on issues; it is concerned with ''truth'' not, (per Wikipedia), ''verifiability''.
::: The issue here as far as I'm concerned is not that Conservapedia is taking a particular view, but that the particular view is without substantiation and even contrary to some of the evidence, and therefore almost certainly untrue.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:24, 27 November 2008 (EST)

:::: Philip, what you've repeatedly deleted (censored) from the [[Obama]] entry is factual information that is undeniably true, such as how he pronounces "Pakistan". Conservapedia never stated that Obama is a Muslim, but presents compelling evidence about it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:18, 27 November 2008 (EST)

== Admin only? ==

Can I ask why this is the case? It doesn't seem particularly democratic if enfranchisement is restricted. Be wary if you start [[American Revolution|taxing me]]! [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 11:40, 27 November 2008 (EST)
*Because inclusive discussion has so far failed to net any agreement, see [[talk:Barack Obama]] --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] (CPAdmin1)[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]] 11:42, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:Big difference between inclusive "discussion" (yes that page is a mess) and inclusive ''voting''. But I see your point. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 11:43, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::Straw poll, not inclusive discussion. You all get to see who thinks what. Happy Thanksgiving. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:45, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::How about going with what Andy decides? He is the Leader of Conservapedia and has already ruled on the situation after reading and considering views from both sides. Although the poll was begun with good intentions, there is a danger that it will be misused by Liberals who have already emphatically lost the argument on the Obama talk page to try and wrest the situation back and gain some spurious authority for their plaints. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:07, 27 November 2008 (EST)[[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:47, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::::Who are these Liberal administrators? [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 13:29, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::::Oh Henry, look and read. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:54, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::::: Bugler, are you calling Andy and yourself liberals? Because it's him and you (and co.) who have "emphatically lost the argument". I also find it most ironic that you posted "How about going with what Andy decides? He is the Leader of Conservapedia and has already ruled on the situation..." with the edit comment "''Anti-democratic cliquism''"! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:43, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::::::It's funny you should say that. I was under the impression that it is those who deny the truth - both about Obama and the nature of discourse on Conservapedia - and who have to rely on censorship, who have lost the argument. Read what Andy says below. We present the facts, pro and con, and let readers make up their own minds. That is the conservative way, and the Conservapedia way, but it clearly is not the way of the Rayment faction. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 06:41, 28 November 2008 (EST)

This is an experiment to see what effect a straw poll will have on, er, 'the situation'. Can't hurt, anyway. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:47, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Rod Weathers, this arose out of a discussion on my talk page. The problem with making it unrestricted is that doing so attracts all sorts of people, including trolls, socks, parodists, and sycophants. Limiting it to those with x number of edits discriminates against those that edit carefully and in depth in favour of those who can't understand the Preview button or who are making lots of trivial changes. Limiting it to administrators is a very blunt-instrument way of limiting it to those who are theoretically more entitled to have a say. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:36, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:I see. That seems rather reasonable. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 16:17, 28 November 2008 (EST)
::''Limiting it to Philip and his four imaginary Liberal friends is a very blunt-instrument way of limiting it to those who are theoretically more entitled to have a say.'' [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:52, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:::Are his four imaginary liberal friends supposed to include Conservative, Ed Poor, and Tim? '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User:FernoKlump/petition|Look at this petition!]] 17:17, 28 November 2008 (EST)
Only one of those, Klumpers. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:39, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:Funny, I thought all of those people existed. Learn something new every day. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:31, 28 November 2008 (EST)

==Great American Tradition==
In the great American democratic tradition, people who were not elected will discuss policy that will be binding on all, while not counting the views of others. {{unsigned|KimSell}}

:Am I really the only non-sysop who thinks this is a good idea? Too often the arguments on talk pages are dragged out to the point of oblivion of reason. --'' '''[[user:JArneal|JArneal]]''' '' 16:15, 28 November 2008 (EST)

== My comment ==

I've added a comment about his religion. I probably won't be adding anything else, because I haven't looked into the other issues as much.

Contrary to the offensive labelling of me as an "Obama defender", I'm not here to defend Obama, but simply to correct a blatant untruth in calling him a Muslim.

This straw poll is going to be pointless if we don't get a large percentage of the administrators putting comments here, but at the same time, perhaps many don't have too much of an opinion, at least on every issue.

[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:58, 27 November 2008 (EST)

: The "blatant untruth" is any claim that Conservapedia asserts definitively that Obama is a Muslim. Conservapedia presents the facts and the reader can decide, as with all entries.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:18, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::''Conservapedia presents the facts and the reader can decide, as with all entries.'' Smething that I have been constantly stating to Philip, only to be met with blank incomprehension and denial. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 06:38, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:::The issue is whether or not the statements about Obama are factual and relevant. Simply saying "Conservapedia presents the facts" begs the question - Philip is disputing that on the Obama page Conservapedia is presenting facts. If some evidence and justification is given for why the statements on the Obama page are factual and relevant, then that should be the end of the argument. So far Philip feels that such evidence and justification has not been given. To repeat, this has nothing to do with whether or not Conservapedia ''should'' present facts and let the reader decide, and everything to do with whether or not Conservapedia ''is'' presenting the facts and letting the reader decide. [[User:JHanson|JHanson]] 17:48, 28 November 2008 (EST)
::::"The facts" would include factual evidence to the contrary, as I suggested [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Obama&oldid=571768#Suggestion_for_compromise a week ago], to no avail. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:44, 28 November 2008 (EST)

== Nuetral light? ==

Can we not just portray him as we would a white christian republican president? It almost seems like we are just spreading rumors about our future commander and chief. --[[User:Rcollins|Rcollins03]] 19:34, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:Yes, almost. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 20:02, 28 November 2008 (EST)

User:Rcollins

2008-11-29T01:00:13Z

Rcollins:

I create pages and rewrite lousy ones

User:Rcollins

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Rcollins: New page: i rule :)

i rule :)

Culture of India

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The Culture of India has been shaped by the long history of India, its unique geography and the absorption of customs, traditions and ideas from some of its neighbors as well as by preserving its ancient heritages, which were formed during the Indus Valley Civilization and evolved further during the Vedic age, rise and decline of Buddhism, Golden age, Muslim conquests and European colonization. India's great diversity of cultural practices, languages, customs, and traditions are examples of this unique co-mingling over the past five millennia. Religious systems such as Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Sikhism. The various religions and traditions of India that were created by these amalgamations have influenced other parts of the world too.

National Stock Exchange of India

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The '''National Stock Exchange of India Limited or S&P CNX NIFTY''' ('''NSE'''), is a [[Mumbai]]-based [[stock exchange]]. It is the largest stock exchange in [[India]] in terms of daily turnover and number of trades, for both equities and derivative trading.<ref>[http://www.nasscom.in/Nasscom/templates/NormalPage.aspx?id=28461 National Stock Exchange]</ref>. Though a number of other exchanges exist, NSE and the [[Bombay Stock Exchange]] are the two most significant stock exchanges in India, and between them are responsible for the vast majority of share transactions. The NSE's key index is the [[S&P CNX Nifty]], known as the Nifty, an index of fifty major stocks weighted by market capitalisation.

NSE is mutually-owned by a set of leading financial institutions, banks, insurance companies and other financial intermediaries in India but its ownership and management operate as separate entities<ref>[http://www.geocities.com/kstability/student/illiquid/illiquid2.html Personal website of R.Kannan]</ref>. As of 2006, the NSE VSAT terminals, 2799 in total, cover more than 1500 cities across India <ref>[http://www.nse-india.com/content/us/us_factsfigures.htm NSE - About Us - Facts & Figures]</ref>. In October 2007, the equity [[market capitalization]] of the companies listed on the NSE was [[dollar|US$]] 1.46 [[trillion]], making it the second largest stock exchange in [[South Asia]]. NSE is the third largest Stock Exchange in the world in terms of the number of trades in equities.<ref>[http://www.world-exchanges.org/WFE/home.asp?menu=28] "World Federation of Exchanges (2007)"</ref>It is the second fastest growing [[stock exchange]] in the world with a recorded growth of 16.6%.<ref>[http://www.expressindia.com/news/fullstory.php?newsid=91524 Now, NSE 2nd fastest growing stock exchange]</ref>

==References==
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National Stock Exchange of India

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Indian cinema

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The '''Indian film industry''' is the largest in the world in terms of ticket sales and number of films produced annually (877 feature films and 1177 short films were released in the year 2003 alone).<ref>[http://www.cbfcindia.tn.nic.in/statistics/statistics-page-2003-11.htm Central Board of Film Certification of India]</ref> [[Movie theater#Pricing and admission|India]] accounts for 73% of movie admissions in the Asia-Pacific region, and earnings are currently estimated at US$8.9 billion.{{Fact|date=March 2008}} The industry is mainly supported by the vast cinema-going Indian public. The [[Central Board of Film Certification]] of India cites on its website that every three months an audience as large as India's billion-strong population visits cinema halls.<ref>[http://www.filmcollection2006.com/ Film Collection]</ref> Indian films are popular in various parts of the world, especially in countries with significant Indian communities.

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Bombay Stock Exchange

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The Bombay Stock Exchange Limited formerly, ''The Stock Exchange, Mumbai''; popularly called ''The Bombay Stock Exchange'', or ''BSE'') has the greatest number of listed companies in world, with 4700 listed as of August 2007.<ref>[http://www.bseindia.com/about/st_key/list_cap_raised.asp BSE - Key statistics]</ref> It is located at Dalal Street, [[Mumbai]], [[India]]. On 31 December 2007, the equity [[market capitalization]] of the companies listed on the BSE was [[Dollar|USD]] 1.79 [[trillion]], making it the largest stock exchange in [[South Asia]] and the tenth largest in the world.<ref>[http://www.world-exchanges.org/publications/EQU1107.pdf World Federation of Exchanges (2007)] "World Federation of Exchanges (2007)"</ref>

==References==
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Reserve Bank of India

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The '''Reserve Bank of India''' (RBI, भारतीय रिज़र्व बैंक) is the [[central bank]] of [[India]], and was established on April 1, 1935 in accordance with the provisions of the Reserve Bank of India Act, 1934. The Central Office of the Reserve Bank was initially established in [[Calcutta]] but was permanently moved to [[Mumbai]] in 1937. Though originally privately owned, RBI has been fully owned by the [[Government of India]] since nationalization in 1949.

[[Duvvuri Subbarao]] who succeeded [[Y. Venugopal Reddy]] on September 2, 2008 is the current [[Governor]] of RBI.

The Reserve Bank of India was set up on the recommendations of the Hilton Young Commission. The commission submitted its report in the year 1926, though the bank was not set up for nine years.

The Preamble of the Reserve Bank of India describes the basic functions of the Reserve Bank as to regulate the issue of Bank Notes and keeping of reserves with a view to securing monetary stability in India and generally to operate the currency and credit system of the country to its advantage.

It has 22 regional offices, most of them in state capitals.

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Mumbai

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'''Mumbai''' formerly '''Bombay''', is the capital of the [[India]]n state of [[Maharashtra]] and the financial capital of [[India]]. With a population of 13,662,885, it is the second most populous city proper in the world.<ref name=WG>[http://world-gazetteer.co
m/wg.php?x=&men=gcis&lng=en&des=wg&srt=npan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=c&va=&srt=pnan World Gazetteer estimate for 2008-01-01]</ref> Along with the neighbouring suburbs of [[Navi Mumbai]] and [[Thane]], it forms, at 19 million, the [[List of metropolitan areas by population|world's fifth most populous]] metropolitan area. Mumbai lies on the west coast of India and has a deep natural [[harbor|harbor]]. Mumbai's port handles over half of India's maritime cargo.<ref name="Manorama2006">{{ cite book | title = Manorama Yearbook 2006 | year = 2006 | publisher = Malayala Manorama | location = Kottayam, India | isbn = 8189004077 }}</ref>

Mumbai is the commercial and entertainment centre of India, generating 5% of India's [[GDP]]<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_muip.htm
|title=Mumbai Urban Infrastructure Project
|publisher=[[Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority|Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA)]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> and accounting for 25% of industrial output, 40% of maritime trade, and 70% of capital transactions to [[Economy of India|India's economy]].<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2299/dscn7619ql4.jpg
|title=Navi Mumbai International Airport
|publisher=City & Industrial Development Corporation of Maharashtra Limited
|format=[[JPEG|JPG]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> Mumbai is one of the world's top ten centres of [[commerce]] by global financial flow,<ref name="autogenerated1">{{cite web |url=http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/jun/18mumbai.htm |title=Mumbai among world's top 10 financial flow hubs |date=2007-06-18 |publisher=Rediff News}}</ref> home to important financial institutions such as the [[Reserve Bank of India]], the [[Bombay Stock Exchange]], the [[National Stock Exchange of India]] and the corporate headquarters of many Indian companies and numerous multinational corporations. The city also houses India's hindi [[Indian cinema|film and television industry]], known as [[Bollywood]]. Mumbai's business opportunities, as well as its potential to offer a better [[Standard of living in India|standard of living]], attract migrants from all over India and, in turn, make the city a potpourri of many communities and [[culture of India|cultures]].

== History ==
In 1534, the [[Portugal|Portuguese]] appropriated the islands from [[Bahadur Shah of Gujarat]]. They were ceded to [[Charles II of England]] in 1661, as [[dowry]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029394365&a=KCountryProfile&aid=1019061813652 |title=UK Government Foreign and Commonwealth Office |accessdate=2008-01-06 |date=2007-06-28}}</ref> for [[Catherine de Braganza]]. These islands, were in turn leased to the [[British East India Company]] in 1668 for a sum of [[pound sterling|£]]10 [[per annum]]. The company found the deep [[harbour]] on the east coast of the islands to be ideal for setting up their first port in the sub-continent. The population quickly rose from 10,000 in 1661, to 60,000 in 1675; In 1687, the British East India Company transferred its headquarters from [[Surat]] to Mumbai. The city eventually became the headquarters of the [[Bombay Presidency]].

From 1817 onwards, the city was reshaped with large [[civil engineering]] projects aimed at merging all the islands in the archipelago into a single amalgamated mass. This project, known as the [[Hornby Vellard]], was completed by 1845, and resulted in the total area swelling to 438 [[Square kilometre|km²]]. In 1853, India's first passenger [[railway]] line was established, connecting Mumbai to the town of [[Thane]]. During the [[American Civil War]] (1861–1865), the city became the world's chief [[cotton]] trading market, resulting in a boom in the economy and subsequently enhancing the city's stature.

The opening of the [[Suez Canal]] in 1869 transformed Bombay into one of the largest seaports on the [[Arabian Sea]].<ref>{{cite book |last=Dossal |first=Mariam |title=Imperial Designs and Indian Realities. The Planning of Bombay City 1845–1875 |location=Delhi |publisher=Oxford University Press |year=1991}}</ref> Over the next thirty years, the city grew into a major urban centre, spurred by an improvement in infrastructure and the construction of many of the city's institutions. The population of the city swelled to one million by 1906, making it the second largest in India after [[Calcutta]]. As capital of the [[Bombay Presidency]], it was a major base for the [[Indian independence movement]], with the [[Quit India Movement]] called by [[Mahatma Gandhi]] in 1942 being its most rubric event. After India's independence in 1947, it became the capital of [[Bombay State]]. In the 1950 the city expanded to its present limits by incorporating parts of Salsette island which lay to the north.

After 1955, when the [[State of Bombay]] was being re-organised along linguistic lines into the states of [[Maharashtra]] and [[Gujarat]], there was a demand that the city be constituted as an autonomous city-state. [[Bombay Citizens' commitee]], an advocacy group comprising of leading [[Gujarati]] industrialists lobbied for Mumbai's independent status. However, the [[Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti|Samyukta Maharashtra movement]] opposed this, and insisted that Mumbai be declared the capital of Maharashtra. Following protests in which 105 people were killed by police firing, Maharashtra state was formed with Mumbai as its capital on May 1, 1960.

The city's secular fabric was torn apart in the [[Bombay Riots|riots]] of 1992–93, after large scale sectarian violence caused extensive loss of life and property. A few months later, on March 12, [[1993 Bombay bombings|a series of co-ordinated bombings]] at several city landmarks by Islamic groups and the Bombay underworld killed around three hundred people.

In 1996, the city was renamed ''Mumbai''<ref>http://geography.about.com/b/2008/11/26/mumbai-was-bombay.htm</ref> by the Shiv Sena government of Maharashtra, in keeping with their policy of renaming colonial institutions after historic local names. There have also been armed attacks, sponsored by Islamic groups, on public transport buses in past years. In 2006, Mumbai was also the site of a [[11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings]] in which over two hundred people were killed when several bombs exploded almost simultaneously on the [[Mumbai Suburban Railway]].<ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/south_asia/2006/mumbai_train_attacks/default.stm |title=Special Report: Mumbai Train Attacks |date=2006-09-30 |publisher=BBC |accessdate=2008-08-13}}</ref> Recently the city has seen a series of politically motivated assaults on the North Indian population by the members of [[Maharashtra Navnirman Sena]], a party headed by [[Raj Thackeray]].<ref>http://www.gulfnews.com/world/India/10255505.html</ref>

On the evening of 26 November, 2008, a group of armed men launched [[November 2008 Mumbai attacks|attacks in the southern part of Mumbai]], killing over 160 people, injuring hundreds and taking hostages in multiple locations.<ref>http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p_esnE-3Z3p-HehX1YOZIaw</ref> Amongst those killed was [[Hemant Karkare]], the chief of the [[Mumbai police]]'s anti-terror squad.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks/index.html |title=Live Breaking News: Mumbai toll climbs as hotel standoffs remain |date=2008-11-27 |publisher=CNN |accessdate=2008-11-27}}</ref>

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Conservapedia talk:Obama straw poll

2008-11-29T00:34:28Z

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We should probably divide it up into several issues. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] (CPAdmin1)[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]] 11:31, 27 November 2008 (EST)

:Two that come to mind are religion and birthplace. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:38, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::The number of his gaffes. --[[User:MugiK|MugiK]] 11:39, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::First Black President maybe. It seems that Andy is trying to deny him that title as well. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] (CPAdmin1)[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]] 11:43, 27 November 2008 (EST)

:Shouldn't the Obama article simply follow the example set by the other articles about politicians both in style and tone? When you compare for example [[John McCain]], [[Bill Clinton]], and [[Barack Obama]], the choice should be clear.
:"Some conservatives" (Who?) say that he's a Muslim, and "some conservatives" (Who?) insist he wasn't born in Hawaii. I'm pretty sure that "some liberals" also insisted on quite a few things when [[George W. Bush]] became President, but you don't see every accusation in the article (judging from a quick look at least). Sarah Palin did drugs, Obama did drugs, but only the Obama article says it (to be fair, at least in Palin's case, it had been legal at the time, but that doesn't make it any better in my eyes). Maybe one standard for all articles would help us more than deciding just how far to move the Obama article away from the standard set by the other articles? --[[User:AlanS|AlanS]] 11:53, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::Yes...Shouldn't all articles (political or not) stick to the evidence for and against, and leave the speculation and editorializing for talk pages and essays?--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 12:37, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::: Wikipedia has an ignored-when-it-suits policy of not taking sides but presenting the evidence for and against (for example, it takes sides in the creation/evolution debate). Conservapedia, in contrast, is prepared to take a stand on issues; it is concerned with ''truth'' not, (per Wikipedia), ''verifiability''.
::: The issue here as far as I'm concerned is not that Conservapedia is taking a particular view, but that the particular view is without substantiation and even contrary to some of the evidence, and therefore almost certainly untrue.
::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:24, 27 November 2008 (EST)

:::: Philip, what you've repeatedly deleted (censored) from the [[Obama]] entry is factual information that is undeniably true, such as how he pronounces "Pakistan". Conservapedia never stated that Obama is a Muslim, but presents compelling evidence about it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:18, 27 November 2008 (EST)

== Admin only? ==

Can I ask why this is the case? It doesn't seem particularly democratic if enfranchisement is restricted. Be wary if you start [[American Revolution|taxing me]]! [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 11:40, 27 November 2008 (EST)
*Because inclusive discussion has so far failed to net any agreement, see [[talk:Barack Obama]] --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] (CPAdmin1)[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]] [[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]] 11:42, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:Big difference between inclusive "discussion" (yes that page is a mess) and inclusive ''voting''. But I see your point. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 11:43, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::Straw poll, not inclusive discussion. You all get to see who thinks what. Happy Thanksgiving. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:45, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::How about going with what Andy decides? He is the Leader of Conservapedia and has already ruled on the situation after reading and considering views from both sides. Although the poll was begun with good intentions, there is a danger that it will be misused by Liberals who have already emphatically lost the argument on the Obama talk page to try and wrest the situation back and gain some spurious authority for their plaints. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:07, 27 November 2008 (EST)[[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:47, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::::Who are these Liberal administrators? [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 13:29, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::::Oh Henry, look and read. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:54, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::::: Bugler, are you calling Andy and yourself liberals? Because it's him and you (and co.) who have "emphatically lost the argument". I also find it most ironic that you posted "How about going with what Andy decides? He is the Leader of Conservapedia and has already ruled on the situation..." with the edit comment "''Anti-democratic cliquism''"! [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:43, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:::::::It's funny you should say that. I was under the impression that it is those who deny the truth - both about Obama and the nature of discourse on Conservapedia - and who have to rely on censorship, who have lost the argument. Read what Andy says below. We present the facts, pro and con, and let readers make up their own minds. That is the conservative way, and the Conservapedia way, but it clearly is not the way of the Rayment faction. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 06:41, 28 November 2008 (EST)

This is an experiment to see what effect a straw poll will have on, er, 'the situation'. Can't hurt, anyway. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:47, 27 November 2008 (EST)

Rod Weathers, this arose out of a discussion on my talk page. The problem with making it unrestricted is that doing so attracts all sorts of people, including trolls, socks, parodists, and sycophants. Limiting it to those with x number of edits discriminates against those that edit carefully and in depth in favour of those who can't understand the Preview button or who are making lots of trivial changes. Limiting it to administrators is a very blunt-instrument way of limiting it to those who are theoretically more entitled to have a say. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:36, 27 November 2008 (EST)
:I see. That seems rather reasonable. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 16:17, 28 November 2008 (EST)
::''Limiting it to Philip and his four imaginary Liberal friends is a very blunt-instrument way of limiting it to those who are theoretically more entitled to have a say.'' [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:52, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:::Are his four imaginary liberal friends supposed to include Conservative, Ed Poor, and Tim? '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User:FernoKlump/petition|Look at this petition!]] 17:17, 28 November 2008 (EST)
Only one of those, Klumpers. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:39, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:Funny, I thought all of those people existed. Learn something new every day. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 19:31, 28 November 2008 (EST)

==Great American Tradition==
In the great American democratic tradition, people who were not elected will discuss policy that will be binding on all, while not counting the views of others. {{unsigned|KimSell}}

:Am I really the only non-sysop who thinks this is a good idea? Too often the arguments on talk pages are dragged out to the point of oblivion of reason. --'' '''[[user:JArneal|JArneal]]''' '' 16:15, 28 November 2008 (EST)

== My comment ==

I've added a comment about his religion. I probably won't be adding anything else, because I haven't looked into the other issues as much.

Contrary to the offensive labelling of me as an "Obama defender", I'm not here to defend Obama, but simply to correct a blatant untruth in calling him a Muslim.

This straw poll is going to be pointless if we don't get a large percentage of the administrators putting comments here, but at the same time, perhaps many don't have too much of an opinion, at least on every issue.

[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:58, 27 November 2008 (EST)

: The "blatant untruth" is any claim that Conservapedia asserts definitively that Obama is a Muslim. Conservapedia presents the facts and the reader can decide, as with all entries.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:18, 27 November 2008 (EST)
::''Conservapedia presents the facts and the reader can decide, as with all entries.'' Smething that I have been constantly stating to Philip, only to be met with blank incomprehension and denial. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 06:38, 28 November 2008 (EST)
:::The issue is whether or not the statements about Obama are factual and relevant. Simply saying "Conservapedia presents the facts" begs the question - Philip is disputing that on the Obama page Conservapedia is presenting facts. If some evidence and justification is given for why the statements on the Obama page are factual and relevant, then that should be the end of the argument. So far Philip feels that such evidence and justification has not been given. To repeat, this has nothing to do with whether or not Conservapedia ''should'' present facts and let the reader decide, and everything to do with whether or not Conservapedia ''is'' presenting the facts and letting the reader decide. [[User:JHanson|JHanson]] 17:48, 28 November 2008 (EST)

== Nuetral light? ==

Can we not just portray him as we would a white christian republican president? It seems almost like we are just spreading rumors about our future commander and chief. --[[User:Rcollins|Rcollins03]] 19:34, 28 November 2008 (EST)

Economy of India

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The '''economy of [[India]]''', measured in [[Dollars|USD]] [[exchange rate|exchange-rate]] terms, is the [[List of countries by GDP (nominal)|twelfth largest]] in the world, with a GDP of around $1 trillion (2008).<ref name="TOI">[http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Business/Economy_loses_trillion-dollar_status/articleshow/3186378.cms The Times of India]</ref> It recorded a GDP growth rate of 9.1% for the fiscal year 2007–2008 which makes its growth the second fastest among emerging economies in the world, after China.<ref name="gdp-growthrate">{{cite news | title=India Defies Turmoil With Growth of 8.8% | date= May 31, 2007 | publisher=MarketWatch | url=http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121213639165032371.html?mod=googlenews_wsj}}</ref> At this rate of sustained growth many economists forecast that India would, over the coming decades, have a more pronounced economic effect on the world stage. Despite this phenomenal rate of growth, India's large [[population of India|population]] has an estimated [[per capita]] income of $2,563, measured by PPP, and $941, measured in nominal terms as of 2007
==Notes==
{{reflist}}

Mumbai

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'''Mumbai''' formerly '''Bombay''', is the capital of the [[India]]n state of [[Maharashtra]] and the financial capital of [[India]]. With a population of 13,662,885, it is the second most populous city proper in the world.<ref name=WG>[http://world-gazetteer.co
m/wg.php?x=&men=gcis&lng=en&des=wg&srt=npan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=c&va=&srt=pnan World Gazetteer estimate for 2008-01-01]</ref> Along with the neighbouring suburbs of [[Navi Mumbai]] and [[Thane]], it forms, at 19 million, the [[List of metropolitan areas by population|world's fifth most populous]] metropolitan area. Mumbai lies on the west coast of India and has a deep natural [[harbor|harbor]]. Mumbai's port handles over half of India's maritime cargo.<ref name="Manorama2006">{{ cite book | title = Manorama Yearbook 2006 | year = 2006 | publisher = Malayala Manorama | location = Kottayam, India | isbn = 8189004077 }}</ref>

Mumbai is the commercial and entertainment centre of India, generating 5% of India's [[GDP]]<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_muip.htm
|title=Mumbai Urban Infrastructure Project
|publisher=[[Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority|Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA)]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> and accounting for 25% of industrial output, 40% of maritime trade, and 70% of capital transactions to [[Economy of India|India's economy]].<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2299/dscn7619ql4.jpg
|title=Navi Mumbai International Airport
|publisher=City & Industrial Development Corporation of Maharashtra Limited
|format=[[JPEG|JPG]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> Mumbai is one of the world's top ten centres of [[commerce]] by global financial flow,<ref name="autogenerated1">{{cite web |url=http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/jun/18mumbai.htm |title=Mumbai among world's top 10 financial flow hubs |date=2007-06-18 |publisher=Rediff News}}</ref> home to important financial institutions such as the [[Reserve Bank of India]], the [[Bombay Stock Exchange]], the [[National Stock Exchange of India]] and the corporate [[List of Indian companies headquartered in Mumbai|headquarters]] of many [[List of Indian companies|Indian companies]] and numerous [[multinational corporations]]. The city also houses India's hindi [[Indian cinema|film and television industry]], known as [[Bollywood]]. Mumbai's business opportunities, as well as its potential to offer a better [[Standard of living in India|standard of living]], attract migrants from all over India and, in turn, make the city a potpourri of many communities and [[culture of India|cultures]].

== History ==
In 1534, the [[Portugal|Portuguese]] appropriated the islands from [[Bahadur Shah of Gujarat]]. They were ceded to [[Charles II of England]] in 1661, as [[dowry]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029394365&a=KCountryProfile&aid=1019061813652 |title=UK Government Foreign and Commonwealth Office |accessdate=2008-01-06 |date=2007-06-28}}</ref> for [[Catherine de Braganza]]. These islands, were in turn leased to the [[British East India Company]] in 1668 for a sum of [[pound sterling|£]]10 [[per annum]]. The company found the deep [[harbour]] on the east coast of the islands to be ideal for setting up their first port in the sub-continent. The population quickly rose from 10,000 in 1661, to 60,000 in 1675; In 1687, the British East India Company transferred its headquarters from [[Surat]] to Mumbai. The city eventually became the headquarters of the [[Bombay Presidency]].

From 1817 onwards, the city was reshaped with large [[civil engineering]] projects aimed at merging all the islands in the archipelago into a single amalgamated mass. This project, known as the [[Hornby Vellard]], was completed by 1845, and resulted in the total area swelling to 438 [[Square kilometre|km²]]. In 1853, India's first passenger [[railway]] line was established, connecting Mumbai to the town of [[Thane]]. During the [[American Civil War]] (1861–1865), the city became the world's chief [[cotton]] trading market, resulting in a boom in the economy and subsequently enhancing the city's stature.

The opening of the [[Suez Canal]] in 1869 transformed Bombay into one of the largest seaports on the [[Arabian Sea]].<ref>{{cite book |last=Dossal |first=Mariam |title=Imperial Designs and Indian Realities. The Planning of Bombay City 1845–1875 |location=Delhi |publisher=Oxford University Press |year=1991}}</ref> Over the next thirty years, the city grew into a major urban centre, spurred by an improvement in infrastructure and the construction of many of the city's institutions. The population of the city swelled to one million by 1906, making it the second largest in India after [[Calcutta]]. As capital of the [[Bombay Presidency]], it was a major base for the [[Indian independence movement]], with the [[Quit India Movement]] called by [[Mahatma Gandhi]] in 1942 being its most rubric event. After India's independence in 1947, it became the capital of [[Bombay State]]. In the 1950 the city expanded to its present limits by incorporating parts of Salsette island which lay to the north.

After 1955, when the [[State of Bombay]] was being re-organised along linguistic lines into the states of [[Maharashtra]] and [[Gujarat]], there was a demand that the city be constituted as an autonomous city-state. [[Bombay Citizens' commitee]], an advocacy group comprising of leading [[Gujarati]] industrialists lobbied for Mumbai's independent status. However, the [[Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti|Samyukta Maharashtra movement]] opposed this, and insisted that Mumbai be declared the capital of Maharashtra. Following protests in which 105 people were killed by police firing, Maharashtra state was formed with Mumbai as its capital on May 1, 1960.

The city's secular fabric was torn apart in the [[Bombay Riots|riots]] of 1992–93, after large scale sectarian violence caused extensive loss of life and property. A few months later, on March 12, [[1993 Bombay bombings|a series of co-ordinated bombings]] at several city landmarks by Islamic groups and the Bombay underworld killed around three hundred people.

In 1996, the city was renamed ''Mumbai''<ref>http://geography.about.com/b/2008/11/26/mumbai-was-bombay.htm</ref> by the Shiv Sena government of Maharashtra, in keeping with their policy of renaming colonial institutions after historic local names. There have also been armed attacks, sponsored by Islamic groups, on public transport buses in past years. In 2006, Mumbai was also the site of a [[11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings]] in which over two hundred people were killed when several bombs exploded almost simultaneously on the [[Mumbai Suburban Railway]].<ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/south_asia/2006/mumbai_train_attacks/default.stm |title=Special Report: Mumbai Train Attacks |date=2006-09-30 |publisher=BBC |accessdate=2008-08-13}}</ref> Recently the city has seen a series of politically motivated assaults on the North Indian population by the members of [[Maharashtra Navnirman Sena]], a party headed by [[Raj Thackeray]].<ref>http://www.gulfnews.com/world/India/10255505.html</ref>

On the evening of 26 November, 2008, a group of armed men launched [[November 2008 Mumbai attacks|attacks in the southern part of Mumbai]], killing over 160 people, injuring hundreds and taking hostages in multiple locations.<ref>http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p_esnE-3Z3p-HehX1YOZIaw</ref> Amongst those killed was [[Hemant Karkare]], the chief of the [[Mumbai police]]'s anti-terror squad.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks/index.html |title=Live Breaking News: Mumbai toll climbs as hotel standoffs remain |date=2008-11-27 |publisher=CNN |accessdate=2008-11-27}}</ref>

== References ==

{{reflist|2}}

Mumbai

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'''Mumbai''' formerly '''Bombay''', is the capital of the [[India]]n state of [[Maharashtra]] and the financial capital of [[India]]. With a population of 13,662,885, it is the second most populous city proper in the world.<ref name=WG>[http://world-gazetteer.co
m/wg.php?x=&men=gcis&lng=en&des=wg&srt=npan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=c&va=&srt=pnan World Gazetteer estimate for 2008-01-01]</ref> Along with the neighbouring suburbs of [[Navi Mumbai]] and [[Thane]], it forms, at 19 million, the [[List of metropolitan areas by population|world's fifth most populous]] metropolitan area. Mumbai lies on the west coast of India and has a deep natural [[harbor|harbour]]. Mumbai's port handles over half of India's maritime cargo.<ref name="Manorama2006">{{ cite book | title = Manorama Yearbook 2006 | year = 2006 | publisher = Malayala Manorama | location = Kottayam, India | isbn = 8189004077 }}</ref>

Mumbai is the commercial and entertainment centre of India, generating 5% of India's [[GDP]]<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_muip.htm
|title=Mumbai Urban Infrastructure Project
|publisher=[[Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority|Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA)]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> and accounting for 25% of industrial output, 40% of maritime trade, and 70% of capital transactions to [[Economy of India|India's economy]].<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2299/dscn7619ql4.jpg
|title=Navi Mumbai International Airport
|publisher=City & Industrial Development Corporation of Maharashtra Limited
|format=[[JPEG|JPG]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> Mumbai is one of the world's top ten centres of [[commerce]] by global financial flow,<ref name="autogenerated1">{{cite web |url=http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/jun/18mumbai.htm |title=Mumbai among world's top 10 financial flow hubs |date=2007-06-18 |publisher=Rediff News}}</ref> home to important financial institutions such as the [[Reserve Bank of India]], the [[Bombay Stock Exchange]], the [[National Stock Exchange of India]] and the corporate [[List of Indian companies headquartered in Mumbai|headquarters]] of many [[List of Indian companies|Indian companies]] and numerous [[multinational corporations]]. The city also houses India's hindi [[Indian cinema|film and television industry]], known as [[Bollywood]]. Mumbai's business opportunities, as well as its potential to offer a better [[Standard of living in India|standard of living]], attract migrants from all over India and, in turn, make the city a potpourri of many communities and [[culture of India|cultures]].

== History ==
In 1534, the [[Portugal|Portuguese]] appropriated the islands from [[Bahadur Shah of Gujarat]]. They were ceded to [[Charles II of England]] in 1661, as [[dowry]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029394365&a=KCountryProfile&aid=1019061813652 |title=UK Government Foreign and Commonwealth Office |accessdate=2008-01-06 |date=2007-06-28}}</ref> for [[Catherine de Braganza]]. These islands, were in turn leased to the [[British East India Company]] in 1668 for a sum of [[pound sterling|£]]10 [[per annum]]. The company found the deep [[harbour]] on the east coast of the islands to be ideal for setting up their first port in the sub-continent. The population quickly rose from 10,000 in 1661, to 60,000 in 1675; In 1687, the British East India Company transferred its headquarters from [[Surat]] to Mumbai. The city eventually became the headquarters of the [[Bombay Presidency]].

From 1817 onwards, the city was reshaped with large [[civil engineering]] projects aimed at merging all the islands in the archipelago into a single amalgamated mass. This project, known as the [[Hornby Vellard]], was completed by 1845, and resulted in the total area swelling to 438 [[Square kilometre|km²]]. In 1853, India's first passenger [[railway]] line was established, connecting Mumbai to the town of [[Thane]]. During the [[American Civil War]] (1861–1865), the city became the world's chief [[cotton]] trading market, resulting in a boom in the economy and subsequently enhancing the city's stature.

The opening of the [[Suez Canal]] in 1869 transformed Bombay into one of the largest seaports on the [[Arabian Sea]].<ref>{{cite book |last=Dossal |first=Mariam |title=Imperial Designs and Indian Realities. The Planning of Bombay City 1845–1875 |location=Delhi |publisher=Oxford University Press |year=1991}}</ref> Over the next thirty years, the city grew into a major urban centre, spurred by an improvement in infrastructure and the construction of many of the city's institutions. The population of the city swelled to one million by 1906, making it the second largest in India after [[Calcutta]]. As capital of the [[Bombay Presidency]], it was a major base for the [[Indian independence movement]], with the [[Quit India Movement]] called by [[Mahatma Gandhi]] in 1942 being its most rubric event. After India's independence in 1947, it became the capital of [[Bombay State]]. In the 1950 the city expanded to its present limits by incorporating parts of Salsette island which lay to the north.

After 1955, when the [[State of Bombay]] was being re-organised along linguistic lines into the states of [[Maharashtra]] and [[Gujarat]], there was a demand that the city be constituted as an autonomous city-state. [[Bombay Citizens' commitee]], an advocacy group comprising of leading [[Gujarati]] industrialists lobbied for Mumbai's independent status. However, the [[Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti|Samyukta Maharashtra movement]] opposed this, and insisted that Mumbai be declared the capital of Maharashtra. Following protests in which 105 people were killed by police firing, Maharashtra state was formed with Mumbai as its capital on May 1, 1960.

The city's secular fabric was torn apart in the [[Bombay Riots|riots]] of 1992–93, after large scale sectarian violence caused extensive loss of life and property. A few months later, on March 12, [[1993 Bombay bombings|a series of co-ordinated bombings]] at several city landmarks by Islamic groups and the Bombay underworld killed around three hundred people.

In 1996, the city was renamed ''Mumbai''<ref>http://geography.about.com/b/2008/11/26/mumbai-was-bombay.htm</ref> by the Shiv Sena government of Maharashtra, in keeping with their policy of renaming colonial institutions after historic local names. There have also been armed attacks, sponsored by Islamic groups, on public transport buses in past years. In 2006, Mumbai was also the site of a [[11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings]] in which over two hundred people were killed when several bombs exploded almost simultaneously on the [[Mumbai Suburban Railway]].<ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/south_asia/2006/mumbai_train_attacks/default.stm |title=Special Report: Mumbai Train Attacks |date=2006-09-30 |publisher=BBC |accessdate=2008-08-13}}</ref> Recently the city has seen a series of politically motivated assaults on the North Indian population by the members of [[Maharashtra Navnirman Sena]], a party headed by [[Raj Thackeray]].<ref>http://www.gulfnews.com/world/India/10255505.html</ref>

On the evening of 26 November, 2008, a group of armed men launched [[November 2008 Mumbai attacks|attacks in the southern part of Mumbai]], killing over 160 people, injuring hundreds and taking hostages in multiple locations.<ref>http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p_esnE-3Z3p-HehX1YOZIaw</ref> Amongst those killed was [[Hemant Karkare]], the chief of the [[Mumbai police]]'s anti-terror squad.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks/index.html |title=Live Breaking News: Mumbai toll climbs as hotel standoffs remain |date=2008-11-27 |publisher=CNN |accessdate=2008-11-27}}</ref>

== References ==

{{reflist|2}}

List of Largest Cities

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São Paulo

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'''São Paulo''' is the largest city in [[Brazil]], with its metropolitan area ranking fourth among the largest urban areas in the world.<ref>[http://sp450anos.terra.com.br/interna/0,,OI236169-EI2551,00.html A maior cidade da América do Sul - Terra - SP 450 anos]</ref> The [[city]] is the capital of the [[State of São Paulo]], the most populous Brazilian state. It is also the richest city of Brazil. The name means [[Paul the Apostle|Saint Paul]] in [[Portuguese language|Portuguese]]. São Paulo exerts global influence in [[commerce]] and [[finance]] as well as [[The arts|arts]] and [[entertainment]].

List of metropolitan areas by population

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The following is a list of the twenty largest metropolitan areas in 2003 as defined by one source.<ref>R.L. Forstall, R.P. Greene, and J.B. Pick, [http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/cityfutures/papers/webpapers/cityfuturespapers/session3_4/3_4whicharethe.pdf "Which are the largest? Why published populations for major world urban areas vary so greatly"], City Futures Conference, (University of Illinois at Chicago, July 2004) – Table 5 (p.34)</ref> As population figures are interpreted and presented differently according to different methods of data collection, definitions and sources, these numbers should be viewed as approximate. Data from other sources may be equally valid but differ due to being measured according to different criteria or taken from different census years.

{| class="sortable wikitable"
!Rank!!Metropolitan area!!Country!!Population!!Area (km2)!!Population Density (People/km2)
|-
|1||[[Tokyo]]||{{JPN}}||32,450,000||8,014||4,049
|-
|2||[[Seoul]]||{{KOR}}||20,550,000||5,076||4,048
|-
|3||[[Mexico City]]<ref>Consists of two separate [[Metropolitan areas of Mexico|zona metropolitanas]]: the Zona Metropolitana del Valle de Mexico (ZMVM) and the Zona Metropolitana de Toluca (ZMT)</ref>||{{MEX}}||20,450,000||7,346||2,784
|-
|4||[[New York City]]<ref>Consists of two separate [[metropolitan statistical area]]s (MSA): the New York-Northern New Jersey Long Island MSA and the Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk MSA.</ref>||{{USA}}||19,750,000||17,884||1,104
|-
|5||[[Mumbai]]||{{IND}}||19,200,000||2,350||8,170
|-
|6||[[Jakarta]]||{{IDN}}||18,900,000||5,100||3,706
|-
|7||[[São Paulo]]||{{BRA}}||18,850,000||8,479||2,223
|-
|8||[[Delhi]]||{{IND}}||18,600,000||3,182||5,845
|-
|9||[[Osaka]]-[[Kobe]]-[[Kyoto]]||{{JPN}}||17,375,000||6,930||2,507
|-
|10||[[Shanghai]]||{{CHN}}||16,650,000||5,177||3,216
|-
|11||[[Manila]]||{{PHL}}||16,300,000||2,521||6,466
|-
|12||[[Hong Kong]]-[[Shenzhen]]<ref>There are restrictions on the movement of labor between Hong Kong and mainland China and the two areas are sometimes listed separately in other lists.</ref>||{{CHN}}||15,800,000||3,051||5,179
|-
|13||[[Los Angeles]]||{{USA}}||15,250,000||10,780||1,415
|-
|14||[[Kolkata]]||{{IND}}||15,100,000||1,785||8,459
|-
|15||[[Moscow]]||{{RUS}}||15,000,000||14,925||1,005
|-
|16||[[Cairo]]||{{EGY}}||14,450,000||1,600||9,031
|-
|17||[[Buenos Aires]]||{{ARG}}||13,170,000||10,888||1,210
|-
|18||[[London]]||{{UK}}||12,875,000||11,391||1,130
|-
|19||[[Beijing]]||{{CHN}}||12,500,000||6,562||1,905
|-
|20||[[Karachi]]||{{PAK}}||11,800,000||1,100||10,727
|}

==References and notes==
{{reflist}}

List of metropolitan areas by population

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The following is a list of the twenty largest metropolitan areas in 2003 as defined by one source.<ref>R.L. Forstall, R.P. Greene, and J.B. Pick, [http://www.uic.edu/cuppa/cityfutures/papers/webpapers/cityfuturespapers/session3_4/3_4whicharethe.pdf "Which are the largest? Why published populations for major world urban areas vary so greatly"], City Futures Conference, (University of Illinois at Chicago, July 2004) – Table 5 (p.34)</ref> As population figures are interpreted and presented differently according to different methods of data collection, definitions and sources, these numbers should be viewed as approximate. Data from other sources may be equally valid but differ due to being measured according to different criteria or taken from different census years.

{| class="sortable wikitable"
!Rank!!Metropolitan area!!Country!!Population!!Area (km2)!!Population Density (People/km2)
|-
|1||[[Greater Tokyo Area|Tokyo]]||{{JPN}}||32,450,000||8,014||4,049
|-
|2||[[Seoul Capital Region|Seoul]]||{{KOR}}||20,550,000||5,076||4,048
|-
|3||[[Greater Mexico City|Mexico City]]<ref>Consists of two separate [[Metropolitan areas of Mexico|zona metropolitanas]]: the Zona Metropolitana del Valle de Mexico (ZMVM) and the Zona Metropolitana de Toluca (ZMT)</ref>||{{MEX}}||20,450,000||7,346||2,784
|-
|4||[[New York metropolitan area|New York City]]<ref>Consists of two separate [[metropolitan statistical area]]s (MSA): the New York-Northern New Jersey Long Island MSA and the Bridgeport-Stamford-Norwalk MSA.</ref>||{{USA}}||19,750,000||17,884||1,104
|-
|5||[[Mumbai metropolitan area|Mumbai]]||{{IND}}||19,200,000||2,350||8,170
|-
|6||[[Jabotabek|Jakarta]]||{{IDN}}||18,900,000||5,100||3,706
|-
|7||[[Greater São Paulo|São Paulo]]||{{BRA}}||18,850,000||8,479||2,223
|-
|8||[[National Capital Territory of Delhi|Delhi]]||{{IND}}||18,600,000||3,182||5,845
|-
|9||[[Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto]]||{{JPN}}||17,375,000||6,930||2,507
|-
|10||[[Shanghai]]||{{CHN}}||16,650,000||5,177||3,216
|-
|11||[[Metro Manila]]||{{PHL}}||16,300,000||2,521||6,466
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|12||[[Hong Kong]]-[[Shenzhen]]<ref>There are restrictions on the movement of labor between Hong Kong and mainland China and the two areas are sometimes listed separately in other lists.</ref>||{{CHN}}||15,800,000||3,051||5,179
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|13||[[Greater Los Angeles|Los Angeles]]||{{USA}}||15,250,000||10,780||1,415
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|14||[[Kolkata metropolitan area|Kolkata]]||{{IND}}||15,100,000||1,785||8,459
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|15||[[Moscow]]||{{RUS}}||15,000,000||14,925||1,005
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|16||[[Cairo]]||{{EGY}}||14,450,000||1,600||9,031
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|17||[[Gran Buenos Aires|Buenos Aires]]||{{ARG}}||13,170,000||10,888||1,210
|-
|18||[[London commuter belt|London]]||{{UK}}||12,875,000||11,391||1,130
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|19||[[Beijing]]||{{CHN}}||12,500,000||6,562||1,905
|-
|20||[[Karachi]]||{{PAK}}||11,800,000||1,100||10,727
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Thane

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'''Thane''' (formerly '''Thana''') is a city in [[Maharashtra]], [[India]], part of the [[Mumbai Conurbation]], and the northeastern suburb of [[Mumbai]] at the head of the [[Thane Creek]].

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'''Navi Mumbai''' formerly known as '''New Bombay''', is a city on the west coast of the state of [[Maharashtra]], [[India]]. It was developed in 1972 as a twin] city of [[Mumbai]], and is one of the largest planned cities in the world, with a total area of 344 km² and 163 km² under the jurisdiction of the Navi Mumbai Municipal Corporation <ref>[http://www.nmmconline.com/english/aboutUs/about_landUsage_Show.php nmmconline.com: "Land Usage"]</ref>.

==References==
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'''Mumbai''' formerly '''Bombay''', is the capital of the [[India]]n state of [[Maharashtra]] and the financial capital of [[India]]. With a population of 13,662,885, it is the second most populous city proper in the world.<ref name=WG>[http://world-gazetteer.co
m/wg.php?x=&men=gcis&lng=en&des=wg&srt=npan&col=abcdefghinoq&msz=1500&pt=c&va=&srt=pnan World Gazetteer estimate for 2008-01-01]</ref> Along with the neighbouring suburbs of [[Navi Mumbai]] and [[Thane]], it forms, at 19 million, the [[List of metropolitan areas by population|world's fifth most populous]] metropolitan area. Mumbai lies on the [[Konkan|west]] coast of India and has a deep natural [[harbor|harbour]]. Mumbai's port handles over half of India's maritime cargo.<ref name="Manorama2006">{{ cite book | title = Manorama Yearbook 2006 | year = 2006 | publisher = Malayala Manorama | location = Kottayam, India | isbn = 8189004077 }}</ref>

Mumbai is the commercial and entertainment centre of India, generating 5% of India's [[GDP]]<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://mmrdamumbai.org/projects_muip.htm
|title=Mumbai Urban Infrastructure Project
|publisher=[[Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority|Mumbai Metropolitan Region Development Authority (MMRDA)]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> and accounting for 25% of industrial output, 40% of maritime trade, and 70% of capital transactions to [[Economy of India|India's economy]].<ref>{{cite web
|url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/2299/dscn7619ql4.jpg
|title=Navi Mumbai International Airport
|publisher=City & Industrial Development Corporation of Maharashtra Limited
|format=[[JPEG|JPG]]
|accessdate=2008-07-18}}</ref> Mumbai is one of the world's top ten centres of [[commerce]] by global financial flow,<ref name="autogenerated1">{{cite web |url=http://www.rediff.com/money/2007/jun/18mumbai.htm |title=Mumbai among world's top 10 financial flow hubs |date=2007-06-18 |publisher=Rediff News}}</ref> home to important financial institutions such as the [[Reserve Bank of India]], the [[Bombay Stock Exchange]], the [[National Stock Exchange of India]] and the corporate [[List of Indian companies headquartered in Mumbai|headquarters]] of many [[List of Indian companies|Indian companies]] and numerous [[multinational corporations]]. The city also houses India's hindi [[Indian cinema|film and television industry]], known as [[Bollywood]]. Mumbai's business opportunities, as well as its potential to offer a better [[Standard of living in India|standard of living]], attract migrants from all over India and, in turn, make the city a potpourri of many communities and [[culture of India|cultures]].

== History ==
In 1534, the [[Portugal|Portuguese]] appropriated the islands from [[Bahadur Shah of Gujarat]]. They were ceded to [[Charles II of England]] in 1661, as [[dowry]]<ref>{{cite web |url=http://www.fco.gov.uk/servlet/Front?pagename=OpenMarket/Xcelerate/ShowPage&c=Page&cid=1007029394365&a=KCountryProfile&aid=1019061813652 |title=UK Government Foreign and Commonwealth Office |accessdate=2008-01-06 |date=2007-06-28}}</ref> for [[Catherine de Braganza]]. These islands, were in turn leased to the [[British East India Company]] in 1668 for a sum of [[pound sterling|£]]10 [[per annum]]. The company found the deep [[harbour]] on the east coast of the islands to be ideal for setting up their first port in the sub-continent. The population quickly rose from 10,000 in 1661, to 60,000 in 1675; In 1687, the British East India Company transferred its headquarters from [[Surat]] to Mumbai. The city eventually became the headquarters of the [[Bombay Presidency]].

From 1817 onwards, the city was reshaped with large [[civil engineering]] projects aimed at merging all the islands in the archipelago into a single amalgamated mass. This project, known as the [[Hornby Vellard]], was completed by 1845, and resulted in the total area swelling to 438 [[Square kilometre|km²]]. In 1853, India's first passenger [[railway]] line was established, connecting Mumbai to the town of [[Thane]]. During the [[American Civil War]] (1861–1865), the city became the world's chief [[cotton]] trading market, resulting in a boom in the economy and subsequently enhancing the city's stature.

The opening of the [[Suez Canal]] in 1869 transformed Bombay into one of the largest seaports on the [[Arabian Sea]].<ref>{{cite book |last=Dossal |first=Mariam |title=Imperial Designs and Indian Realities. The Planning of Bombay City 1845–1875 |location=Delhi |publisher=Oxford University Press |year=1991}}</ref> Over the next thirty years, the city grew into a major urban centre, spurred by an improvement in infrastructure and the construction of many of the city's institutions. The population of the city swelled to one million by 1906, making it the second largest in India after [[Calcutta]]. As capital of the [[Bombay Presidency]], it was a major base for the [[Indian independence movement]], with the [[Quit India Movement]] called by [[Mahatma Gandhi]] in 1942 being its most rubric event. After India's independence in 1947, it became the capital of [[Bombay State]]. In the 1950 the city expanded to its present limits by incorporating parts of Salsette island which lay to the north.

After 1955, when the [[State of Bombay]] was being re-organised along linguistic lines into the states of [[Maharashtra]] and [[Gujarat]], there was a demand that the city be constituted as an autonomous city-state. [[Bombay Citizens' commitee]], an advocacy group comprising of leading [[Gujarati]] industrialists lobbied for Mumbai's independent status. However, the [[Samyukta Maharashtra Samiti|Samyukta Maharashtra movement]] opposed this, and insisted that Mumbai be declared the capital of Maharashtra. Following protests in which 105 people were killed by police firing, Maharashtra state was formed with Mumbai as its capital on May 1, 1960.

The city's secular fabric was torn apart in the [[Bombay Riots|riots]] of 1992–93, after large scale sectarian violence caused extensive loss of life and property. A few months later, on March 12, [[1993 Bombay bombings|a series of co-ordinated bombings]] at several city landmarks by Islamic groups and the Bombay underworld killed around three hundred people.

In 1996, the city was renamed ''Mumbai''<ref>http://geography.about.com/b/2008/11/26/mumbai-was-bombay.htm</ref> by the Shiv Sena government of Maharashtra, in keeping with their policy of renaming colonial institutions after historic local names. There have also been armed attacks, sponsored by Islamic groups, on public transport buses in past years. In 2006, Mumbai was also the site of a [[11 July 2006 Mumbai train bombings]] in which over two hundred people were killed when several bombs exploded almost simultaneously on the [[Mumbai Suburban Railway]].<ref>{{cite news |url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/south_asia/2006/mumbai_train_attacks/default.stm |title=Special Report: Mumbai Train Attacks |date=2006-09-30 |publisher=BBC |accessdate=2008-08-13}}</ref> Recently the city has seen a series of politically motivated assaults on the North Indian population by the members of [[Maharashtra Navnirman Sena]], a party headed by [[Raj Thackeray]].<ref>http://www.gulfnews.com/world/India/10255505.html</ref>

On the evening of 26 November, 2008, a group of armed men launched [[November 2008 Mumbai attacks|attacks in the southern part of Mumbai]], killing over 160 people, injuring hundreds and taking hostages in multiple locations.<ref>http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p_esnE-3Z3p-HehX1YOZIaw</ref> Amongst those killed was [[Hemant Karkare]], the chief of the [[Mumbai police]]'s anti-terror squad.<ref>{{cite news |url=http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/asiapcf/11/27/india.attacks/index.html |title=Live Breaking News: Mumbai toll climbs as hotel standoffs remain |date=2008-11-27 |publisher=CNN |accessdate=2008-11-27}}</ref>

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Air Force One

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'''Air Force One''' is the [[air traffic control]] call sign of any [[United States]] [[United States Air Force|Air Force]] aircraft carrying the [[President of the United States]].<ref name="foxtrot"> [http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraffic/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/ATC/Chp2/atc0204.html#2-4-20 Order 7110.65R (Air Traffic Control)] Federal Aviation Administration 14 March 2007. Retrieved: 27 August 2007. </ref> Since 1990, the presidential fleet has consisted of two specifically configured, highly customized [[Boeing 747-200#747-200|Boeing 747-200B]] series aircraft – tail codes "28000" and "29000" – with Air Force designation "VC-25A". While these aircraft are referred to as "Air Force One" only while the president is on board, the term is commonly used to describe either of the two aircraft normally used and maintained by the U.S. Air Force solely for the president.

When the president needs to fly to locations that have runways too short for the VC-25A, a [[Boeing C-32]] is used instead. An Air Force aircraft carrying the [[Vice President of the United States]] is designated as [[Air Force Two]].

== References ==

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Talk:Ireland

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-Scotland was never conquered by the romans

: Scotland was occupied for about a century up to the Forth-Clyde line, fortified as the Antonine Wall; earlier, the battle of Mons Graupius (as described by Tacitus) certainly sounds like a decisive vanquishing of the Caledonians, even if the whole of (whate later was to be) Scotland was not occupied. [[User:Pachyderm|Pachyderm]] 16:59, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

-Ireland may call it the war of indepencence, but it's probably best described as a time of civil strife or something like that. There was no war as such.
-the Treaty in '21 set up a free state, a republic wasn't declared till the 40s
-Ireland still isn't called the Republic of Ireland. It's there, in the constitution that the name of the state is Ireland, or Eire in the Irish language.
[[User:lil_cain|lil_cain]] 03.55, 10 March 2007 (GMT)

== Ireland ==

Ok guys a few things. One england invaded in the 11th century (not the 17th). The war of independence was not a proper war but did lead England to pull out of the 26 counties keeping the 6 counties of ulster under british control which lead to the CIVIL WAR. Ireland is now the richest country in Europe and has the 4th strongest economy in the world. It's cheaper to buy an appartment in Manhatten than in Dublin .. it's a funny old world.

adest

I edited out the bit about the support bases for the various parties, as they were a: unreferenced, and b:simply wrong. If I get a chance I'll go back and add something correct with references and such, but better to leave it out until then.

Defining the territory of the Republic as consisting "of twenty-six counties in the traditional provinces of Munster, Leinster, Connacht, and three of the nine counties of Ulster" is, I think, flawed. Particularly since counties can be divided up and merged. Since County Dublin was split up into 3 counties and an independent city - not subject to any of the counties. At the least the territory should be described as consisting "of twenty-six of the traditional counties" I think a better description would be All of the Island of Ireland excluding the portion that remains as part of the United Kingdom.

Ireland's constitutional position was until the 19th amendment, that the Republic consisted of the whole island, this has now been amended to recognize the north, but still maintain an attachment to the territory. Technically the constitution recognizes the north as being part of the republic for the purposes of citizen ship and part of the UK for everything else.
--[[User:Irish|Irish]] 23:02, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

== 04:06, March 19, 2007 ==

Just wondering the reason for the revert? All the info reverted was true and non-controversial, apart perhaps for the country name. --[[User:Boreas|Boreas]] 08:00, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

== Better map needed ==

This entry could use a much better map -- the current one is quite small, and among other issues, does not show [[Belfast]]!

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The War of Independence might not have been a large pitched-battle affair between two standing armies like the American version, but it was a concerted campaign of guerilla warfare, espionage and assassination carried out by the highly organised, popularly-supported IRA. (as distinct from the provisional Northern version).
''a time of civil strife'' doesn't cut it! [[User:Stallthedigger|stallthedigger]] 13:02, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

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The recent edits on the history section are not even remotely historical. They aren't referenced either, so I'm removing them. [[User:Melanchthon|Melanchthon]] 23:18, 29 March 2007, (GMT)

Agreed, go for it. [[User:Jennisuk|Jennisuk]] 18:21, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

== Why the revert? ==

What is the matter with you, TK? Why did you revert my edit? It is nonsensical to say that Ireland the island is referred to as 'the Republic of Ireland', then a few sentences later state that the island is divided between the Republic and Northern Ireland. [[User:Eternalpraise]]

*Please post in order, Eternal, ok? That means adding comments at the bottom. I reverted it, because the inital notation would be ok, if you edited the latter parts. Fair enough? --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 08:57, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

No, because the initial statement is incorrect. Do you expect me to edit the article to make it agree with a nonsensical assertion? The island of Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are not synonymous.

*What am I missing ? Isn't that its proper title? Does it not share an island with ''Northern Ireland'', a part of the UK? Am I stumbling over some cultural issue here? --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 09:31, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Ireland is an island off the west coast of Great Britain. It consists of the ''country'' of Ireland (commonly referred to as 'the Republic of Ireland') and Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK). Eternalpraise is right, you are wrong. The island of Ireland is not referred to as the Republic of Ireland. [[User:Chrysogonus|Chrysogonus]] 15:34, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

::*Ah ha! A good sleep, and what Eternalpraise was saying is clear re-stated as you did, Chrusogonus! Thank you. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 15:45, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Re "OK guys a few things": (1) The so-called English Invasion was in 1169 - that makes it 12th century, not 11th. (2)It was hardly English. As the Anglo-Celtic historian, Norman Davies, puts it: "For one thing the people who launched it were not English and not even acting on behalf of England. For another, the operation ended in what may be best rated a half conquest."

The expedition was the brainchild of a dispossessed Norman baron from Wales and an exiled Irish chief. They were joined by sundry knights and hangers-on who probably only knew enough English to order the servants around. (Check out the names: fitzStephen, fitzGerald. Norman names that are now as Irish as Patrick(who was British)). The adventure was given tacit assent by Henry (who was in Aquitaine at the time) and some sort of after-the-act legitimacy was given by the English-born Pope Adrian IV; but in no way was it an "English Invasion". A group of bored knights and nobility after a bit of pillage and what-have-you followed a pair of Irishmen with bees in their bonnets. [[User:AlanE]] 19:55, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

== Party names in translation ==

I had always believed Fine Gael translated as 'Clan of the Gael' and Sinn Fein as 'Ourselves Alone'. I haven't edited as I'm more than prepared to learn that these aren't as pukka as the terms used.

: There's no proper english translation for Sinn Fein. The closest you could come(literally anyway) would probably ourselves ourselves. D
:: No, that is incorrect. Ourselves is the proper translation of Sinn Féin. Placing a pronoun infront of the word Féin is translated as "corresponding posession pronoun"self in English. For example myself is "Mé Féin." --[[User:Ned|Ned]] 23:05, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
:: Sinn Féin is accurately translated as 'We Ourselves', not 'Ourselves Alone'. The latter is a mistranslation by [[Robert Kee]] in his book of the same name, and the mistranslation caught on over in Britain. Fine Gael translates as 'tribe of the Irish'; Fine Gael's former name (until 1933)was Cumann na Gaedhaeil (society of the Irish), and Clann na nGaeil (family of the Irish) was the name of an influential late nineteenth-century Irish group in the United States. [[User:TomBarry|TomBarry]] 19:44, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

== Party Positions ==

Fianna Fáil needs the fada As in á - since that changes the "a" to a long a as in "fall"

Fianna Fáil is described as "generally conservative on social issues (though probably not by American standards)."

This strikes me as being a bit poorly researched. If the author is unsure of how conservative Irishness compares to conservative Americanness then why make a comment that is probably not accurate.

As far as the issues go -

It opposes legalization of abortion. Abortion is illegal in the Republic of Ireland in all cases except for the risk to the life of the mother.

It did partially support the movement to make divorce legal, but divorce in Ireland is not a casual thing like it is in the USA, you have to be separated for 4 out of the preceding 5 years.

On the whole, as far as most social issues are concerned I think that you will find that Fianna Fáil is more socially conservative than most Americans.

Also Fianna Fáil is not "Traditionally the party of Big Business and the farming community", but rather traditionally the party of the small farmer and the urban worker. Fine Gael is more likely to be considered the party of Big Business and Big Farming.

Additionally summery of Fianna Fáil should neglect the term pragmatic. The party strives for pragmatism. For them points of view of the site a more important distinction is that they oppose Ireland joining NATO.

Many members of Fine Gael support joining NATO.

{{unsigned|Irish}}

In fact, I belive it's official party policy.

==Article change needed==
This article should really be split into two separate articles: this one covering the Republic of Ireland, and one for Northern Ireland, since that province is still a part of the United Kingdom. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 10:10, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
:The Republic of Ireland goes at [[Republic of Ireland]], this one is about the island of [[Ireland]], and Northern Ireland is at [[Northern Ireland]]. Simple! [[User:Mrjimbob|Mrjimbob]]

Much of the material here duplicates what is already in the Republic of Ireland article. This page should be limited to disambiguation (links to Rep. of Ireland and Northern Ireland pages) and island geography. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 15:23, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

== Disambiguation Page ==

This should be a disambiguation page as much of the information here fits within three basic articles: [[Republic of Ireland]], [[Northern Ireland]], and Ireland [[(island)]]. The way it is currently written makes it confusing and difficult to follow. I attempted to make said change myself but it was reverted so I am now bouncing this idea around to see if we can reach a consensus. A disambiguation page can be found at [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ireland&oldid=567566]. I will wait until the 12/14 for responses-[[User:Rcollins|Rcollins]] 18:18 24 November 2008 (PST)

:It depends on what writers mean when they say "Ireland". Most people I know consider Ireland to be the [[nation]] of people who inhabit the emerald isle. All adults and most children know that Ireland (the nation) was partitioned, with the northern part remaining under UK rule.

:Here is a question I can't answer, because I don't know enough (yet):
:*When we speak of Ireland as a land, or the Irish as a people, which article should be the link target?

:But one thing I hope to avoid is any use of links to enforce POV about which government is the correct or true or rightful government of any or all of Ireland. Let's take care to remain neutral on such questions. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:00, 25 November 2008 (EST)
:::All I am saying is that it would be helpful to have a true disambiguation page so we can then redirect people to either the island or one of the countries in charge of Ireland. If we choose to keep this as a page about the island at least make it readable and not a rambling mess covering both political entities along with the Irish people -[[User:Rcollins]] 23:56, 26 November 2008 (EST)

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Air Force Two is the air traffic control call sign used by any United States Air Force aircraft carrying the Vice President, but not the President.<ref>[http://www.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=90 Factsheets : C-32 : C-32]</ref> The term is often associated with the Boeing C-32, a modified 757 which is most commonly used as the [[Vice President]]'s transport. The C-40 Clipper, a version of the [[Boeing 737]], also serves in this role.

Although the [[U.S. Marine Corps]] carry the primary mission for [[helicopter]] support of both the [[President]], Marine One, and [[Vice President]], Marine Two, UH-1N Twin Huey helicopters from the Air Force's 1st Helicopter Squadron are also used to support the Vice President in the Washington, D.C. area under the call sign Air Force Two.

During the buildup to the [[2003 invasion of Iraq]], Vice President [[Dick Cheney]] made his first overseas trip in office. For the March 2002, 10-day, 12-country trip throughout the [[Middle East]], Cheney used the VC-25A, a modified [[Boeing 747]], that is typically reserved for the President. The aircraft used the call sign Air Force Two. Cheney's last time on the aircraft was over a decade before when he served as George H. W. Bush's Defense Secretary.<ref>[http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/03/10/cheney.htm USATODAY.com - Cheney heads overseas to talk terrorism]</ref><ref>[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/cheneytrip/notebook_311.htm usnews.com: Reporter's Notebook on Cheney's Mideast trip: Day 1: London (3/11/02)]</ref>

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Air Force One

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Air Force One is a Boeing 747-200B modified to create a "flying oval office" to transport the [[President]] of the [[United States]] in air travel.

Its name is taken from the radio call sign used when the president is aboard.<ref>http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/af1/</ref>

If the [[Vice President]] is aboard, the call sign is [[Air Force Two]].

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*[[Nut (fruit)]] an edible fruit
*[[Nut (fastener)]] used to fasten items
*Nut a derogatory term for either one suffering from a [[mental illness]] or is behaving in a [[crazy]] manner

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Talk:Ireland

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I did a very quick clean up of this, no references as of yet, I'll hopefully add them in the next few days. It's worth noting though

-Scotland was never conquered by the romans

: Scotland was occupied for about a century up to the Forth-Clyde line, fortified as the Antonine Wall; earlier, the battle of Mons Graupius (as described by Tacitus) certainly sounds like a decisive vanquishing of the Caledonians, even if the whole of (whate later was to be) Scotland was not occupied. [[User:Pachyderm|Pachyderm]] 16:59, 9 June 2007 (EDT)

-Ireland may call it the war of indepencence, but it's probably best described as a time of civil strife or something like that. There was no war as such.
-the Treaty in '21 set up a free state, a republic wasn't declared till the 40s
-Ireland still isn't called the Republic of Ireland. It's there, in the constitution that the name of the state is Ireland, or Eire in the Irish language.
[[User:lil_cain|lil_cain]] 03.55, 10 March 2007 (GMT)

== Ireland ==

Ok guys a few things. One england invaded in the 11th century (not the 17th). The war of independence was not a proper war but did lead England to pull out of the 26 counties keeping the 6 counties of ulster under british control which lead to the CIVIL WAR. Ireland is now the richest country in Europe and has the 4th strongest economy in the world. It's cheaper to buy an appartment in Manhatten than in Dublin .. it's a funny old world.

adest

I edited out the bit about the support bases for the various parties, as they were a: unreferenced, and b:simply wrong. If I get a chance I'll go back and add something correct with references and such, but better to leave it out until then.

Defining the territory of the Republic as consisting "of twenty-six counties in the traditional provinces of Munster, Leinster, Connacht, and three of the nine counties of Ulster" is, I think, flawed. Particularly since counties can be divided up and merged. Since County Dublin was split up into 3 counties and an independent city - not subject to any of the counties. At the least the territory should be described as consisting "of twenty-six of the traditional counties" I think a better description would be All of the Island of Ireland excluding the portion that remains as part of the United Kingdom.

Ireland's constitutional position was until the 19th amendment, that the Republic consisted of the whole island, this has now been amended to recognize the north, but still maintain an attachment to the territory. Technically the constitution recognizes the north as being part of the republic for the purposes of citizen ship and part of the UK for everything else.
--[[User:Irish|Irish]] 23:02, 1 July 2007 (EDT)

== 04:06, March 19, 2007 ==

Just wondering the reason for the revert? All the info reverted was true and non-controversial, apart perhaps for the country name. --[[User:Boreas|Boreas]] 08:00, 19 March 2007 (EDT)

== Better map needed ==

This entry could use a much better map -- the current one is quite small, and among other issues, does not show [[Belfast]]!

[[User:Boethius|Boethius]] 13:35, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

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The War of Independence might not have been a large pitched-battle affair between two standing armies like the American version, but it was a concerted campaign of guerilla warfare, espionage and assassination carried out by the highly organised, popularly-supported IRA. (as distinct from the provisional Northern version).
''a time of civil strife'' doesn't cut it! [[User:Stallthedigger|stallthedigger]] 13:02, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

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The recent edits on the history section are not even remotely historical. They aren't referenced either, so I'm removing them. [[User:Melanchthon|Melanchthon]] 23:18, 29 March 2007, (GMT)

Agreed, go for it. [[User:Jennisuk|Jennisuk]] 18:21, 29 March 2007 (EDT)

== Why the revert? ==

What is the matter with you, TK? Why did you revert my edit? It is nonsensical to say that Ireland the island is referred to as 'the Republic of Ireland', then a few sentences later state that the island is divided between the Republic and Northern Ireland. [[User:Eternalpraise]]

*Please post in order, Eternal, ok? That means adding comments at the bottom. I reverted it, because the inital notation would be ok, if you edited the latter parts. Fair enough? --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 08:57, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

No, because the initial statement is incorrect. Do you expect me to edit the article to make it agree with a nonsensical assertion? The island of Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are not synonymous.

*What am I missing ? Isn't that its proper title? Does it not share an island with ''Northern Ireland'', a part of the UK? Am I stumbling over some cultural issue here? --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 09:31, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Ireland is an island off the west coast of Great Britain. It consists of the ''country'' of Ireland (commonly referred to as 'the Republic of Ireland') and Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK). Eternalpraise is right, you are wrong. The island of Ireland is not referred to as the Republic of Ireland. [[User:Chrysogonus|Chrysogonus]] 15:34, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

::*Ah ha! A good sleep, and what Eternalpraise was saying is clear re-stated as you did, Chrusogonus! Thank you. --~ [[User:TK|TK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 15:45, 11 April 2007 (EDT)

Re "OK guys a few things": (1) The so-called English Invasion was in 1169 - that makes it 12th century, not 11th. (2)It was hardly English. As the Anglo-Celtic historian, Norman Davies, puts it: "For one thing the people who launched it were not English and not even acting on behalf of England. For another, the operation ended in what may be best rated a half conquest."

The expedition was the brainchild of a dispossessed Norman baron from Wales and an exiled Irish chief. They were joined by sundry knights and hangers-on who probably only knew enough English to order the servants around. (Check out the names: fitzStephen, fitzGerald. Norman names that are now as Irish as Patrick(who was British)). The adventure was given tacit assent by Henry (who was in Aquitaine at the time) and some sort of after-the-act legitimacy was given by the English-born Pope Adrian IV; but in no way was it an "English Invasion". A group of bored knights and nobility after a bit of pillage and what-have-you followed a pair of Irishmen with bees in their bonnets. [[User:AlanE]] 19:55, 15 May 2007 (EDT)

== Party names in translation ==

I had always believed Fine Gael translated as 'Clan of the Gael' and Sinn Fein as 'Ourselves Alone'. I haven't edited as I'm more than prepared to learn that these aren't as pukka as the terms used.

: There's no proper english translation for Sinn Fein. The closest you could come(literally anyway) would probably ourselves ourselves. D
:: No, that is incorrect. Ourselves is the proper translation of Sinn Féin. Placing a pronoun infront of the word Féin is translated as "corresponding posession pronoun"self in English. For example myself is "Mé Féin." --[[User:Ned|Ned]] 23:05, 8 October 2007 (EDT)
:: Sinn Féin is accurately translated as 'We Ourselves', not 'Ourselves Alone'. The latter is a mistranslation by [[Robert Kee]] in his book of the same name, and the mistranslation caught on over in Britain. Fine Gael translates as 'tribe of the Irish'; Fine Gael's former name (until 1933)was Cumann na Gaedhaeil (society of the Irish), and Clann na nGaeil (family of the Irish) was the name of an influential late nineteenth-century Irish group in the United States. [[User:TomBarry|TomBarry]] 19:44, 28 May 2008 (EDT)

== Party Positions ==

Fianna Fáil needs the fada As in á - since that changes the "a" to a long a as in "fall"

Fianna Fáil is described as "generally conservative on social issues (though probably not by American standards)."

This strikes me as being a bit poorly researched. If the author is unsure of how conservative Irishness compares to conservative Americanness then why make a comment that is probably not accurate.

As far as the issues go -

It opposes legalization of abortion. Abortion is illegal in the Republic of Ireland in all cases except for the risk to the life of the mother.

It did partially support the movement to make divorce legal, but divorce in Ireland is not a casual thing like it is in the USA, you have to be separated for 4 out of the preceding 5 years.

On the whole, as far as most social issues are concerned I think that you will find that Fianna Fáil is more socially conservative than most Americans.

Also Fianna Fáil is not "Traditionally the party of Big Business and the farming community", but rather traditionally the party of the small farmer and the urban worker. Fine Gael is more likely to be considered the party of Big Business and Big Farming.

Additionally summery of Fianna Fáil should neglect the term pragmatic. The party strives for pragmatism. For them points of view of the site a more important distinction is that they oppose Ireland joining NATO.

Many members of Fine Gael support joining NATO.

{{unsigned|Irish}}

In fact, I belive it's official party policy.

==Article change needed==
This article should really be split into two separate articles: this one covering the Republic of Ireland, and one for Northern Ireland, since that province is still a part of the United Kingdom. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 10:10, 1 October 2007 (EDT)
:The Republic of Ireland goes at [[Republic of Ireland]], this one is about the island of [[Ireland]], and Northern Ireland is at [[Northern Ireland]]. Simple! [[User:Mrjimbob|Mrjimbob]]

Much of the material here duplicates what is already in the Republic of Ireland article. This page should be limited to disambiguation (links to Rep. of Ireland and Northern Ireland pages) and island geography. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 15:23, 13 May 2008 (EDT)

== Disambiguation Page ==

This should be a disambiguation page as much of the information here fits within three basic articles: [[Republic of Ireland]], [[Northern Ireland]], and Ireland [[(island)]]. The way it is currently written makes it confusing and difficult to follow. I attempted to make said change myself but it was reverted so I am now bouncing this idea around to see if we can reach a consensus. A disambiguation page can be found at [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ireland&oldid=567566]. -[[User:Rcollins|Rcollins]] 18:18 24 November 2008 (PST)

Ireland

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Ireland has multiple meanings. The term may refer to:
*[[Ireland (island)]] a large European island off the west coast of [[Great Britain]]
*[[Republic of Ireland]] a country that makes up most of the island of Ireland
*[[Northern Ireland]] one of the constituent countries of the [[United Kingdom]]

Gmail

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'''Gmail''' is a free [[Post Office Protocol|POP3]] and [[Internet Message Access Protocol|IMAP]] [[webmail]] service provided by [[Google]].<ref>{{cite web
| url = http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13273&topic=1556
| title = How do I enable POP?
| publisher = Google
|date=2007-09-03
| accessdate = 2008-06-01
| quote = You can retrieve your Gmail messages with a client or device that supports POP, like Microsoft Outlook or Netscape Mail.}}
</ref><ref>{{cite web
| url = http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=77695&topic=12762
| title = How do I enable IMAP?
| publisher = Google
|date=2007-10-23
| accessdate = 2008-06-01
| quote = You can retrieve your Gmail messages with a client or device that supports IMAP, like Microsoft Outlook or Apple Mail.}}</ref> In the [[United Kingdom]] and [[Germany]] it is officially called '''Google Mail'''.

Gmail launched on 1 April 2004 as an invitation only beta release and became available to the public on 7 February 2007. To this day the service remains in beta status and has tens of millions of users.<ref>[http://news.cnet.com/Google-opens-Gmail-to-all/2100-1038_3-6157101.html?tag=nefd.top Google opens Gmail to all], retrieved 27 March 2007</ref><ref>{{cite web
| url = http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/2007-11-22-spam_N.htm
| title = Despite filters, tidal wave of spam bears down on e-mailers
| accessdate = 2008-06-01
| last = Swartz
| first = Jon
| date = 2007-11-22
| publisher = USA TODAY
| quote = For a start, tens of millions use Google's Gmail because it was designed with built-in spam defenses.}}</ref><ref>{{cite web
| url = http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,140432/article.html
| title = Google Disables Some Gmail Accounts by Mistake
| last = Perez
| first = Juan Carlos
| date = 2007-12-10
| accessdate = 2008-06-01
| publisher = PC World
| quote = Hohne said the mistakenly disabled accounts affected "a small fraction," well below 1 percent of the tens of millions of Gmail users.}}</ref>

== References ==
{{reflist}}

Gmail

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Labor Party

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Labor Party has multiple meanings. This term may refer to:

*[[American Labor Party]]
*[[Australian Labor Party]]
*[[British Labour Party]]

Confucianism

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'''Confucianism'''is a [[China|Chinese]] [[Ethics|ethical]] and [[Philosophy|philosophical system]] developed from the teachings of the Chinese philosopher [[Confucius]] (Kǒng Fūzǐ, or K'ung-fu-tzu, lit. "Master Kung", 551–479 BCE). It focuses on human morality and right action. Confucianism is a complex system of moral, social, political, [[Chinese philosophy|philosophical]], and [[religion|quasi-religious]] thought that has had tremendous influence on the culture and history of [[East Asia]]. It might be considered a [[state religion]] of some East Asian countries, because of governmental promotion of Confucian values.

Cultures and countries strongly influenced by Confucianism include [[Culture of China|China]], [[Japan]], [[Korea]], [[Culture of Taiwan|Taiwan]], [[Culture of Singapore|Singapore]] and [[Culture of Vietnam|Vietnam]], as well as various territories settled predominantly by [[Han Chinese|Chinese people]].

The basic teachings of Confucianism stress the importance of education for moral development of the individual so that the state can be governed by moral virtue rather than by the use of coercive laws.<ref>Levinson, David; Christensen, Karen "Encyclopedia of Modern Asia (2002) pg 157</ref>

Confucianism

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'''Confucianism''' ({{zh-cp|c=[[wikt:儒|儒]][[wikt:家|家]]|p=Rújiā}}) is a [[China|Chinese]] [[Ethics|ethical]] and [[Philosophy|philosophical system]] developed from the teachings of the Chinese philosopher [[Confucius]] (Kǒng Fūzǐ, or K'ung-fu-tzu, lit. "Master Kung", 551–479 BCE). It focuses on human morality and right action. Confucianism is a complex system of moral, social, political, [[Chinese philosophy|philosophical]], and [[religion|quasi-religious]] thought that has had tremendous influence on the culture and history of [[East Asia]]. It might be considered a [[state religion]] of some East Asian countries, because of governmental promotion of Confucian values.

Cultures and countries strongly influenced by Confucianism include [[Culture of China|China]], [[Japan]], [[Korea]], [[Culture of Taiwan|Taiwan]], [[Culture of Singapore|Singapore]] and [[Culture of Vietnam|Vietnam]], as well as various territories settled predominantly by [[Han Chinese|Chinese people]].

The basic teachings of Confucianism stress the importance of education for moral development of the individual so that the state can be governed by moral virtue rather than by the use of coercive laws.<ref>Levinson, David; Christensen, Karen "Encyclopedia of Modern Asia (2002) pg 157</ref>
{{ChineseText}}

Micronesia

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Micronesia [ˌmaɪkroʊˈniʒə] (help·info), from the Greek mikros (μικρός) (meaning small) and nesos (νῆσος) (meaning island), is a subregion of [[Oceania]], comprising hundreds of small islands in the [[Pacific Ocean]]. The [[Philippines]] lie to the northwest, [[Indonesia]], [[Papua New Guinea]] and [[Melanesia]] to the west and south, and [[Polynesia]] to the east.

Micronesia

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Rcollins: New page: {{dablink|This article is about the greater region. For the independent state, see Federated States of Micronesia.}} Micronesia [ˌmaɪkroʊˈniʒə] (help·info), from the Greek mikro...

{{dablink|This article is about the greater region. For the independent state, see [[Federated States of Micronesia]].}}
Micronesia [ˌmaɪkroʊˈniʒə] (help·info), from the Greek mikros (μικρός) (meaning small) and nesos (νῆσος) (meaning island), is a subregion of [[Oceania]], comprising hundreds of small islands in the [[Pacific Ocean]]. The [[Philippines]] lie to the northwest, [[Indonesia]], [[Papua New Guinea]] and [[Melanesia]] to the west and south, and [[Polynesia]] to the east.

Talk:Eurasia

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== Picture Wanted ==

Perhaps we could get a picture of Eurasia
possibly similar to one of these? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Two-point-equidistant-asia.jpg] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationEurasia.png](sorry wikipedia links) -[[User:Rcollins]] 21:26, 23 November 2008 (PST)

Afro-Eurasia

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Afro-Eurasia <ref>{{ Citation
| last=Frank
| first=Andre G.
| author-link=Andre Gunder Frank
| title=ReORIENT: Global Economy in the Asian Age
| year=1998
| isbn=978-0520214743
| publisher=University of California Press
}}</ref> is a term used to describe [[Eurasia]] ([[Europe]] and [[Asia]]) and [[Africa]] as one continent. The landmass contains around 85% of the world population (around 5.7 billion people).<ref>Based upon population estimates for 2007 cited in a UN report, ''[http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/wpp2006/WPP2006_Highlights_rev.pdf World Population Prospects: The 2006 Revision (Highlights)].''</ref>

== Division ==

Normally, it is divided at the [[Suez Canal]] into Eurasia and Africa, the former of which can be subdivided into [[Europe]] and [[Asia]]. It can be divided alternatively into Eurasia-[[North Africa]] and [[Subsahara]] for cultural and historical reasons.<ref>{{Citation
| last=Diamond
| first=Jared
| author-link=Jared Diamond
| title=[[Guns, Germs, and Steel]]: The Fates of Human Societies
| year=1997
| isbn=0-393-03891-2
| publisher=Norton & Company
}}</ref>

[[Category:Geography]]
[[Category:Europe]]
[[Category:Asia]]
[[Category:Africa]]

Talk:Eurasia

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== Picture Wanted ==

Perhaps we could get a picture of Eurasia
possibly similar to one of these? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Two-point-equidistant-asia.jpg| Satalite View] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:LocationEurasia.png| World Map View](sorry wikipedia links) -[[User:Rcollins]] 21:26, 23 November 2008 (PST)

Eurasia

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Eurasia is a large landmass covering about 53,990,000 km² or about 10.6% of the Earth's surface (36.2% of the land area). Often considered a single [[continent]], Eurasia comprises the traditional continents of [[Europe]] and [[Asia]]. Eurasia, in turn, is part of the yet larger landmass of [[Afro-Eurasia]], whereby Eurasia is joined to [[Africa]] at the [[Isthmus of Suez]].

Eurasia has almost 4.8 billion people, more than 71% of the world's human population.

The [[Eurasian Plate]] includes Europe and most of Asia but not the [[Indian subcontinent]], the [[Arabian Peninsula]] or the area of the Russian Far East east of the [[Chersky Range]].

[[Category:Geography]]
[[Category:Europe]]
[[Category:Asia]]