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User talk:PumaS

2010-06-04T16:15:03Z

PumaS:

Name one Freedom lost. There is help for those suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:12, 30 January 2009 (EST)

==Editing this site==
It's very clear from your userpage that you're liberal, so I would encourage you to shy away from editing Conservapedia - where we present the Conservative perspective, as we have found the liberal perspective to be one based on, amongst other things, [[liberal deceit|deceit]]. In this spirit, obviously your edit [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Kent_Hovind&curid=7493&diff=784700&oldid=762309 here] is unacceptable; regardless of your political perspective - those edits won't be tolerated.--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 11:34, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

:I will freely admit to subsribing to a liberal persuasion. The issue I have here is that this is a public encyclopedia. This is not a message board. Feel free to post anything you want on a private forum, but when labeling information as public knowledge (and in addition, "trustworthy"), there is a certain standard by which you should adhere. Even though the reader base for Conservapedia is small, it is indeed growing, and information contained within should at least attempt to remain factual. A Conservative/Evangelical POV is well within the bounds of this site, but please do not lie to an increasing amount of people. Facts can be interpreted by a point of view, not defined by one. You said yourself that deceit is unwarranted, and Kent Hovind's academic merit is far from legitimate. Further, this man is in federal prison for defrauding the IRS. He cannot legally call himself a doctor, and as a convicted liar, his claims of expertise on any subject cannot and should not be cited without independent confirmation.

User talk:PumaS

2010-06-04T16:14:53Z

PumaS:

Name one Freedom lost. There is help for those suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:12, 30 January 2009 (EST)

==Editing this site==
It's very clear from your userpage that you're liberal, so I would encourage you to shy away from editing Conservapedia - where we present the Conservative perspective, as we have found the liberal perspective to be one based on, amongst other things, [[liberal deceit|deceit]]. In this spirit, obviously your edit [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Kent_Hovind&curid=7493&diff=784700&oldid=762309 here] is unacceptable; regardless of your political perspective - those edits won't be tolerated.--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 11:34, 4 June 2010 (EDT)

:I will freely admit so subsribing to a liberal persuasion. The issue I have here is that this is a public encyclopedia. This is not a message board. Feel free to post anything you want on a private forum, but when labeling information as public knowledge (and in addition, "trustworthy"), there is a certain standard by which you should adhere. Even though the reader base for Conservapedia is small, it is indeed growing, and information contained within should at least attempt to remain factual. A Conservative/Evangelical POV is well within the bounds of this site, but please do not lie to an increasing amount of people. Facts can be interpreted by a point of view, not defined by one. You said yourself that deceit is unwarranted, and Kent Hovind's academic merit is far from legitimate. Further, this man is in federal prison for defrauding the IRS. He cannot legally call himself a doctor, and as a convicted liar, his claims of expertise on any subject cannot and should not be cited without independent confirmation.

User:PumaS

2010-06-04T15:19:18Z

PumaS: Replaced content with 'Atheist.'

Atheist.

Kent Hovind

2010-06-04T15:17:44Z

PumaS: His doctorate is from an unaccredited university and therefore should not legally be called a doctor. Also, his expertise on dinosaurs is not confirmed by anyone but himself.

[[File:KentHovind.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Kent Hovind giving a presentation]]
'''Kent Hovind''' (born 1953), called "Dr. Dino" because of his self-stated expertise on dinosaurs, is a prominent and controversial [[Young Earth Creationism|young Earth creationist]]. He founded Creation Science Evangelism in 1989<ref>http://www.drdino.com/</ref> and has a doctoral degree in Christian education from [[Patriot University]].

In 2001, Hovind opened a theme park in Pensacola, Florida called Dinosaur Adventure Land, filled with exhibits explaining God's Creation.

== Criticism ==

Dr. Karen Bartelt, a critic of Hovind, questions the quality of his doctoral thesis and the academic standards of the university from which he received it, believing both to be subpar for institutions of higher learning.<ref>[http://chem.tufts.edu/science/Stear-NoAiG/no-AiG/bartelt_dissertation_on_hovind_thesis.htm Karen Bartelt, Ph.D. "The Dissertation Kent Hovind Doesn't Want You To Read."]</ref> In 2009, Hovind's thesis was leaked to the public, with the content matching Bartelt's review.<ref>http://foo.ca/wp/2009/12/10/kent-hovinds-dissertation-for-doctor-of-philosophy-in-christian-education-full-text/</ref> Patriot University has stated that they were tricked into releasing the thesis by people claiming to be supporters, claiming the work was not a final copy, and that they do not release final copies.<ref>http://www.patriotuniversity.com/PriceOfTruth3.html</ref>

Hovind has been criticized by fellow Young Earth Creationists for supposedly using arguments that are unsound both Biblically and scientifically.<ref>Wieland, Carl, Ham, Ken, and Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2571/ Maintaining Creationist Integrity] October 2002</ref>

He is currently serving a ten-year term in U.S. federal prison for 58 tax offenses, obstructing federal agents and related charges.<ref>''"10 years for 'Dr. Dino'"'', Michael Stewart. Pensacola News Journal, 19 January 19, 2007</ref>
Hovind has maintained that, as provided in U.S. law, there should have been no taxes because he runs a home-based religious organization.

Hovind, with his son Eric Hovind, had released a set of videos titled "Answering the Critics" whereby they answered some common criticisms of themselves, usually from Internet sources. Hovind claimed he did not want to answer all the critics because he believed many critics criticize him without wanting to get any answers from him, so it was best to ignore them and continue preaching to those who really want to listen.<ref>Answering the Critics #1</ref>

In 2007, an atheist group known for posting Hovind-critical videos on [[YouTube]] was banned from the site due to [[DMCA]] notices sent by Creation Science Evangelism. CSE had released videos made prior to 2005 into the [[public domain]], and sending DMCA notices over public domain material is illegal. Later, Hovind requested that YouTube remove the ban on public domain material, with Hovind retaining his copyright on future videos.<ref>http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2007/09/dr-dino-uses-dmca-takedowns-on-critics-admits-to-mistakes.ars</ref><ref>http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2007/09/youtube-support/</ref><ref>http://www.wired.com/entertainment/theweb/news/2007/09/youtube_dmca</ref>

== $250,000 Offer ==

Hovind is well known for his standing US$250,000 offer to anyone who can "prove evolution".<ref>http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=67</ref>
The offer has gone unclaimed.
Contributors at [[Talk.origins|TalkOrigins]], a pro-evolution web-site, have pointed out that Hovind's challenge includes not just biological evolution but also [[abiogenesis]], [[cosmology]] and other things, and have claimed that the challenge is worded in a way that makes it impossible to fulfill since it requires proving the negative statement that "evolution" is the only possible explanation for the existence of life.<ref>Isaak, Mark, (Ed.) [http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA341.html Claim CA341], 2006</ref>

== External link ==
*[http://www.drdino.com/ Creation Science Evangelism] Official home page (DrDino.com)
*[http://foo.ca/wp/2009/12/10/kent-hovinds-dissertation-for-doctor-of-philosophy-in-christian-education-full-text/ Dissertation for Doctor of Philosophy in Christian Education] Full text of Hovind's dissertation
*[http://www.archive.org/details/KentHovind_Part1_HowOldIsTheEarth How Old Is The Earth?]

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Talk:People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals

2009-01-30T19:57:11Z

PumaS:

Hrm, it's too bad I can't use some [http://www.students.bucknell.edu/bmetz/rants/peta/ personal research] I did. :) [[User:Jazzman831|Jazzman831]] 22:59, 20 July 2007 (EDT)

The main page for this article should be the full name of the organization, not the acronym. I'm proposing the article be moved to [[People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals]]. [[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 20:03, 11 May 2008 (EDT)

Stop me if I'm overstating the case. PETA may or may not see human beings as [[animals]] - the way most liberals do. In [[Biology]], human beings are classified as part of the [[Animal Kingdom]]; see [[primates]] or [[mammals]].

Also, they don't say they want animals to have '''exactly''' the same [[rights]]; there are no plans for them to vote in elections. They use the word "consideration".

I'm still studying their view on people and (other) animals in relationships that can be seen as mutually beneficial. If I befriend a wild animal, and it starts to like being with me, am I "using" him (in a way PETA would condemn)? If I have a pet now, must I return it to the wild? Or what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 11:05, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
:They have companion animals, actually. If you are interested in the topic, I highly recommend Peter Singer's ''Animal Liberation'', which examines the topic at some length and really was the foundation of the "animal rights" movement.--[[user:TomMoore|Tom Moore]][[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]] 12:29, 18 June 2008 (EDT)
:I'm going to rewrite this article, actually, Ed. It just needs a redo, since it's scattered and not really cohesive. Also, PETA's aims against fishing and hunting and circuses and so on are very well-known objectives, so I'm not sure they are criticism, as they are listed now. Even though I dislike PETA and disagree with them, I am familiar with the philosophy and a vegetarian myself, so I think I can treat the subject fairly.--[[user:TomMoore|Tom Moore]][[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]] 12:43, 18 June 2008 (EDT)

== "PETA opposes the human ownership of animals as pets or work animals." ==

That's not really accurate, from what I've heard. They think the world would be a little nicer if people had never domesticated wild animals and kept them as pets, but they have no plans to stop them now. In fact, they believe it's good to adopt animals without homes as that cuts down on animal suffering.

From [http://www.peta.org/about/faq-comp.asp| PETA's official web site]: "Adopting a cat or dog from a shelter and providing a loving home is a small but powerful way to prevent some of this suffering. The most important thing that animal guardians can do is to spay or neuter their animals and avoid buying animals from breeders or pet stores, which contribute to the overpopulation crisis." I also found [http://www.peta.org/campaigns/ar-petaonpets.asp| another page on PETA's web site about pet ownership] and they specifically say that contrary to myth, '''"PETA does not want to confiscate animals who are well cared for and 'set them free.'"''' and that they want "the population of dogs and cats to be reduced through spaying and neutering and for people to adopt animals from pounds or shelters".

So that quote should probably be removed from the article.

Isn't it amazing that all people, Conservative, Liberal, white, black, religious, atheist, can all agree that PETA is insane? - xx

User:PumaS

2009-01-30T19:54:43Z

PumaS: New page: Modern Conservatism is a mistake, and has, through the administration of George W. Bush, stripped America of both freedom and credibility. Bring our troops home. They don't deserve to be t...

Modern Conservatism is a mistake, and has, through the administration of George W. Bush, stripped America of both freedom and credibility. Bring our troops home. They don't deserve to be thrown in a meat grinder.

Jesus Camp

2009-01-30T19:49:38Z

PumaS:

'''''Jesus Camp''''' (2006) is a [[documentary]] about a [[Pentecostal Church|Pentecostal]] summer camp and the children that attend.

The documentary contains little to no narration, serving only to reveal the treatment of children in Southern Evangelical Bible camps. It is a look inside the Conservative Christian view of the world, which contains an "Army of God" to "take back America for Christ",<ref name="Detroit">Watts, Tom. [http://www.realdetroitweekly.com/article_1885.shtml Real Detroit Weekly] ''Ewing believes in Jesus Camp'', 10/4/06. Retrieved on 12/11/06.</ref> much like Islam.

Directed and produced by Heidi Ewing and Rachel Grady, it was nominated for a 2007 Oscar for Best Documentary Feature, only to lose to ''[[An Inconvenient Truth]]''.<ref>http://imdb.com/Sections/Awards/Academy_Awards_USA/2007</ref>

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