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User talk:KBinbota

2009-03-26T12:58:08Z

PhilipV: Where are our manners?, we forgot to welcome this user!

{{welcome}}---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 08:58, 26 March 2009 (EDT)
If you don't have a "better" claim to your personal belongings than I have, please send them all to me (starting with your computer). --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 12:03, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
:I'm sorry? I do not understand your comment. [[User:KBinbota|KBinbota]] 12:53, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

::A jocular reference to your comment about people not being "better" than animals. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 13:02, 20 March 2009 (EDT)
:::Ah! OK...that is very funny, thank you! Sorry I misunderstood. [[User:KBinbota|KBinbota]] 13:10, 20 March 2009 (EDT)

Debate:Better a Muslim or an Atheist President

2009-03-24T23:00:07Z

PhilipV: The previous edit was offensive to the significant minority of muslims across the world who are honest, civil, and decent people.　

We all know that [[Obama]] is most certainly a [[Muslim]], though he keeps it hidden (from himself too?). But at least he'd be [[religious]]. Most Muslims believe in the same values than us. Most of them are Young Earth Creationists and oppose the [[Atheist]], Liberal Science. Sure, better if he were an observant, [[Protestant]] [[Christian]]. But as the reality is different, better a Muslim or an Atheist President?

== Muslim ==
Muslims are religious and understand our values and needs. Together we must fight the ever-increasing Atheists. Together we shall oppose Abortion and Evolution.

== Atheist ==
A significant percentage of muslims are either terrorists, or endorse terrorism. Better an Atheist who listens to us than a Muslim who who might kill us.
[[Category:Conservapedia Debates]]

Conservapedia talk:Guard dog

2009-03-21T14:49:41Z

PhilipV: /* Picture */ new section

Needs to be a bit "smarter", methinks. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 13:02, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:You made 9 edits in 1 minute. It's probably pretty hard to program a system smart enough to tell when you are simply testing its limits and not, in fact, a botspammer... [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:22, 9 February 2008 (EST)
::To the contrary, it need only look at the kind of changes that are being made. Significantly harder to write, admittedly, but that's a price that must be paid. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 13:25, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:::In fact, I would see if a copy of the AVB from Wikipedia could be procured. --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 13:26, 9 February 2008 (EST)
::::Regardless, in no normal circumstances should users make that many edits in a short period of time. In fact, I'm not sure I could find a page, make decide what edit needs to be made, make said edit, and save the page all in under 6 seconds. Even when you go through and fix categories you can't go that fast. I would say that anyone who makes that many edits in 1 minute should be slowed down. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:32, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:::::One word: Tabs. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 17:35, 9 February 2008 (EST)
::::::I know how it's done, but there's no practical reason to do it that way. If you are going to open up the tabs beforehand, why not just make the edit right then? At my very fastest and most efficient I've ever been able to be (and I've done a lot of routine "maintenance" work) is maybe a third of that rate. Maybe if the pages loaded instantly I could go twice as fast, but that's still only 6 edits a minute. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:06, 9 February 2008 (EST)
:::::::To tell the truth, I was testing it… --[[User:MakeTomorrow|MakeTomorrow]] 18:16, 9 February 2008 (EST)
::::::::I know :) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:19, 9 February 2008 (EST)

== Name? ==

We should name the Guard Dog. I'm thinking "Fluffy." -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 22:05, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

*I was thinking "Rati" or "RatStalker", for obvious reasons. :p --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 22:13, 11 March 2009 (EDT)

== Picture ==

Don't guard dogs tend to be more vicious than the cutelittle robot you've got as a picture?---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 10:49, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

User talk:TomF

2009-03-21T14:46:18Z

PhilipV: New page: {{welcome}}--~~~~

{{welcome}}---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 10:46, 21 March 2009 (EDT)

Rockefeller Foundation

2009-03-21T14:45:16Z

PhilipV: Redirecting to John D. Rockefeller

#REDIRECT [[John D. Rockefeller]]

Mongol Empire

2009-03-21T14:43:51Z

PhilipV: Redirecting to Mongolia

#REDIRECT [[Mongolia]]

Mulan

2009-03-09T21:18:08Z

PhilipV:

'''''Mulan''''' is a 1998 [[cartoon]] [[film]] released by the [[Walt Disney]] corporation. The film is set in [[China]] during an invasion by the [[Mongol Armies|Huns]].

Mulan is a young [[woman]] who, following the custom of her people, is sent to a matchmaker for an arranged [[marriage]], but is rejected as unworthy to marry for her clumsiness, which carries a scourge of dishonor on her family. Meanwhile as the Huns invade China, her crippled father is drafted to fight the Huns. Mulan sneaks out of the house and disguises herself as a man to take the place of her father, and becomes a hero by helping defeat the Huns.

==Criticism==
The underlying message in ''Mulan'' is [[feminism]]. The film frequently takes aim at the custom in her society that women are unfit to fight. The film also has a strong [[occult]] content, including worship of ancestral spirits, and a miniature [[dragon]] who has a central role in the movie serving as Mulan's [[familiar spirit]]; this makes ''Mulan'' questionable fare for [[Christian]] youth to view without parental guidance.

[[Category:Animated Movies]]

Dumbo

2009-03-09T21:16:46Z

PhilipV: links

'''Dumbo''' is a famous [[Disney]] animated film, first released in 1941.

The [[film]] is about a young [[circus]] [[elephant]] named "Dumbo" due to his huge ears. Despite ridicule and humiliation, and with the help of a talking [[mouse named]] Timothy, Dumbo discovers that he can fly using his giant ears, and becomes the star of the circus.

[[Category:Animated Movies]]

Lashkar-e-Toiba

2009-02-22T22:17:43Z

PhilipV:

'''Lashkar-e-Toiba''' is one of the largest and most active Islamic terrorist organizations in [[South Asia]]. It was founded in [[Afghanistan]] by Hafiz Muhammad Saeed<ref>[http://specials.rediff.com/news/2005/sep/02sld15.htm The 15 faces of terror]Rediff.com</ref>. It is currently based in Pakistan-administered Kashmir. Lashkar-e-Toiba members have carried out major [[terrorist attacks]] against the Republic of [[India]].<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/target/etc/modern.html The evolution of Islamic Terrorism] by John Moore,PBS</ref>The organization is regarded as a dangerous terror outfit by the governments of [[India]], the [[United States]], the [[United Kingdom]], [[Kazakhstan]], [[Russia]], [[Australia]] and others.<ref>[http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20031226/world.htm#4 USA redesignates Pakistan-based terror groups] The Tribune</ref> <ref name="BBC">[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2510613.stm Lashkar-e-Toiba],BBC</ref> <ref>[http://www.arabtimesonline.com/arabtimes/kuwait/Viewdet.asp?ID=8534&cat=a Terror list out] Arab Times</ref><ref>[http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1107792.htm Is Lashkar-e-Toiba still operating in Pakistan?] abc.net</ref>. Their ideology is based on an intensely virulent strain of [[Islamic Fundamentalism]], [[anti-Semitism]], anti-[[Hinduism]], [[Hesperophobia]], [[Xenophobia]] and the hatred of and prejudices against non-Muslim minorities (such as [[Christians]] and [[Hinduism|Hindus]]) in Pakistan and [[Kashmir]] in South Asia. Their ultimate goal is to eradicate all Hindus in Kashmir and India and establish a totalitarian, [[Islam]]ic [[fascist]] regime. They also have disparaging views against [[Jew]]s and support terrorist groups in [[Palestine]] against the holy land of [[Israel]]. Their propaganda routinely demonizes Jews and Hindus together as "enemies of Islam"[http://www.hinduonnet.com/businessline/2001/01/05/stories/040555ra.htm][http://www.tribuneindia.com/2003/20030703/edit.htm#4][http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=149]

==References==
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<references/>
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==External links==
*[http://www.adl.org/terrorism/symbols/lashkaretaiba.asp Report on the Lashkar-e-Toiba by the Anti-Defamation League]
*[http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/jandk/terrorist_outfits/lashkar_e_toiba.htm Report on Lashkar-e-Toiba by the South Asia Terrorism Portal]
*[http://www.saag.org/%5Cpapers20%5Cpaper1972.html Should Mohd. Afzal Guru be executed?] International Terrorism Monitor--Paper # 132.

[[Category:Terrorists]]
[[Category:Islam]]
[[Category:Asia]]

Maltese Cross

2009-02-22T22:13:14Z

PhilipV: Spelling

[[Image:Maltese cross.png|thumb|A Maltese Cross]]The '''Maltese Cross''' is a cross having four equal limbs of a triangular shape. It was given this name as the badge of the military and religious order of the [[Knights of Malta]].
[[category:Christianity]]

Talk:Indo-China

2009-02-22T22:12:13Z

PhilipV: New page: == Merge == Shouldn't we merge this page with Indochina?--~~~~

== Merge ==
Shouldn't we merge this page with [[Indochina]]?---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 17:12, 22 February 2009 (EST)

Lope de Vega

2009-02-22T22:05:06Z

PhilipV:

'''Lope de Vega''' (1562-1635) was the leading dramatist or playwright of the [[Spanish Golden Age]]. He wrote 1,800 plays and hundreds of short drama pieces.

[[category:playwrights]]

Scotland

2009-02-22T22:02:42Z

PhilipV:

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'''Scotland''' is the second-largest and northern-most of the four countries in the [[United Kingdom]].
It is about three-eighths the size of its southern neighbour England, but is much less populous; most of the population lives in the ''central belt'', a band across central Scotland between the capital [[Edinburgh]] and the largest city, [[Glasgow]]. Other cities are [[Aberdeen]] and [[Dundee]]. [[Inverness]] and [[Stirling]] were granted city status recently but are in fact smaller than some of the larger Scottish towns like Paisley and Perth.

The symbol of Scotland is the [[thistle]]. The Scottish flag is the Cross of St. Andrew, a white diagonal cross on a dark blue background. The design originated in the 9th century.
Scotland's motto is ''Nemo Me Impune Lacessit'' ("No one provokes me with impunity")<ref>http://www.scotland-guide.co.uk/ALL_AREAS_IN_SCOTLAND/Glasgow/Areas/Centre/Mercat_Cross.htm </ref>

==Geography==
Scotland is split into three distinct geographical regions; the mountainous Highlands to the north, the rolling countryside of the Central Lowlands (where the major urban centres are located) and the hilly Southern Uplands that lie next to the English border. Scotland also includes the island groups of [[Orkney]], [[Shetland]], the [[Inner Hebrides|Inner]] and [[Outer Hebrides]], the islands of the [[Firth of Clyde]] including [[Arran]], [[Bute]], [[Cumbrae]] & [[Wee Cumbrae]], the [[St. Kilda]] archipelago, [[Rockall]] and various other smaller islands.

[[Ben Nevis]], the highest mountain in the [[United Kingdom]], is in the Scottish [[Highlands of Scotland|Highlands]], as are most of the nation's highest mountains. Those with heights above 3000 feet are eponymously named [[Munro| Munros]] after Sir Hector Munro, the first person to compile a list of such mountains.<ref> for a complete list of Munros see http://www.sol.co.uk/d/dickwall/munroes.htm</ref>

Scotland has some 2,300 miles of coastline, much of it in broad or narrow bays called ''firths''. Major rivers include the Tay, Tweed, Clyde, and Forth. The Spey is Scotland's longest river. Freshwater lakes (or ''lochs'') are abundant; Lochs Lomond, Morar, and Ness are the largest in the British Isles and well-known for their picturesque beauty, with Loch Ness having additional fame as the home of a legendary monster.

==People==

====Religion====
Scotland is historically [[Christian]]; the national church is the [[Church of Scotland]]. Scotland was a [[Catholic]] nation until the time of the [[Reformation]], when many Scottish scholars returned from their travels in Germany, having studied the works of [[Martin Luther]]. This caused a religious change in Scotland where many of the lords became [[Protestant]] and ousted the Queen of Scotland, Mary Stuart ('Mary, Queen of Scots') at the time and replaced her with her infant son, [[James VI]] (later to become [[James I]] of [[England]]). Notable figures from that time include [[John Knox]] and [[George Wishart]] both of whom were pioneers of the change. However, from the mid 19th century until the interwar period, there were large scale immigrations of Irish Catholics to Scotland's industrial urban centres and this had a profound effect on the religious demography of Scotland. Today there are a similar number of communicants of both the Roman Catholic Church and the Presbyterian Church of Scotland although both religions have suffered considerable declines in church going attendances. The [[Episcopal]]ian Church is predominant in the north-east. There are also significant populations of [[Muslim]]s, [[Hindu]]s ,[[Jew]]s and [[Sikh]]s in Scotland's major cities (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee).

====Culture and sports====

Scotland has given the English speaking world many of the languages finest writers, poets and philosophers. Among these are Adam Smith, David Hume, Sir Walter Scott, Robert Burns, Frances Hutcheson, James Hogg, Robert Louis Stevenson, Arthur Conan Doyle, J.M Barrie and Hugh Macdairmid. The Scottish intellectual and cultural tradition can be traced back to the Scottish Enlightenment, a remarkable period in the 18th century characterized by an outpouring of intellectual and scientific accomplishments. Indeed it was Voltaire who said "we look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation." Scotland is also famous for its disproportionate amount of inventors and scientists such as Alexander Graham Bell (telephone), Lord Kelvin (the Kelvin si unit of temperature), James Watt (condensed steam power), John Napier (logarithms and the decimal point), Joseph Lister (pioneer of antiseptics), Alexander Fleming (penicillin) James Clark Maxwell (electro-magnetism), Robert Watson Watt (radar) and John Logie Baird (television). It is home to ancient world class universities such as Edinburgh, Glasgow and St Andrews Universities and being one of the first industrialised and urbanised nations in the world.

A national preoccupation ,is [[football (soccer)]]. Other diversions include [[rugby]], [[lawn bowls]], [[motorsports]], [[horseracing]], [[shinty]] (similar to hockey), [[curling]], sports of the [[Highland Games]] - such as tossing the [[caber]] and, of course, [[golf]]. Scotland is the home of golf. The Royal and Ancient Golf Club at [[St Andrews]] is the governing body of world golf.

Other things associated with the country are [[kilt]]s ([[tartan]] skirtlike garments worn by Scotsmen), and the haunting music of the [[bagpipes]]. Famous Scottish products include [[pie]]s, [[haggis]] and Scotch [[whisky]].

==Government==
Scotland has its own [[Scottish Parliament]] comprising 129 members (MSPs) as well as sending 59 Members of Parliament (MPs) to represent its interests in the [[United Kingdom]] parliament which sits in [[London]]. Scottish MPs have historically been recognized for their political skills and appointed to the Cabinet in larger numbers than is proportionate. The current Prime Minister [[Gordon Brown]], is Scottish, and formerly he was [[Chancellor of the Exchequer]].

The '''Scottish Government''' (formerly known as the Scottish Executive) is the government in Scotland for devolved matters. Responsibility for all devolved matters was passed to the Scottish Executive from the
'''Scottish Office''' and other UK Government departments in 1999. The members of the Scottish Government are chosen from the party or parties holding most seats in the Parliament. The Scottish Government is led by the First Minister, who forms a ministerial team of Cabinet Secretaries. In the election on May 3 2007, the [[Scottish National Party]] won the largest number of seats, but not enough for an absolute majority. At the moment the party forms a minority government.

===Principal Government Officials===

===Relations with England===
Relationships between Scottish and English MPs before [[devolution]] were sometimes tense because of what the former [[Conservative|Conservative Party]] MP, by then an [[Ulster Unionist]], [[Enoch Powell]] dubbed ''The West Lothian question''. The name arose in 1977 after [[Tam Dalyell]], Labour MP for West Lothian in Scotland, asked during a debate in the [[Houses of Parliament]] over Scottish and Welsh [[devolution]]:

<blockquote>''For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate... at least 119 Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on British politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?''</blockquote>

He pointed out that he as MP for West Lothian could vote on matters affecting English constituencies but not his own constituency.

==Economy==
Scotland's position at the forefront of the industrial revolution in the 19th century bequeathed a legacy of heavy engineering and manufacturing that lasted well into the 20th century. However with de-industrialisation from the 1970s onwards and latterly the relocation of manufacturing jobs to countries with lower labour costs (eg. Eastern Europe) the Scottish economy is now heavily dependant on tourism, the oil industry, agriculture, the service industry and public sector jobs.

==History==
Scotland has been inhabited since the first [[Mesolithic]] hunter-gatherers are thought to have migrated to Scotland.<ref>At least 8500 years before recorded history dealt with Britain, according to the uniformitarian timescale. [http://www.scotlandhistory.net/ Scotland History], Wormland, Jenny. Scotland: a History. 2005, Oxford: Oxford University Press. p.1</ref>
These inhabitants showed advanced knowledge of astronomy, creating several [[Stonehenge]]-like monuments.

At the time of the [[Roman]]s the tribes in what became Scotland were similar to those further south, and can be considered to be [[Celtic]] peoples. Those from the North-East were called ‘Picti’ (Picts) by Roman writers, which could mean ‘painted people' and refer to tattoos. The Romans never subdued these northern tribes, and after a brief period when the Antonine Wall between the Firths of Forth and Clyde was the Roman Empire’s northern frontier, they drew back and had [[Hadrian’s Wall]] as the frontier. They did try to influence the tribes between the two Walls, and when kingdoms like Strathclyde emerged in the early [[Dark Ages]], their rulers often bore Roman names or titles, the dynasties having been founded by Roman officials. The Scots themselves began arriving as settlers in the West of Scotland at this time (AD 400-500). They were from a part of the north of [[Ireland]] and spoke Old Irish, which changed to become Scottish [[Gaelic]], and eventually replaced Pictish. They sometimes warred with the Picts and [[Briton]]s and sometimes allied with them, but a unified kingdom under the Scottish king Kenneth Mac Alpin was established in AD 843, called ‘Alba’ (still the [[Gaelic]] name for Scotland). This kingdom took over Strathclyde in the early 11th century to form the basis of Mediaeval Scotland. [[Normans]] and their descendants such as Robert the Bruce ('de Brus' was a Norman surname) became important nobles in Scotland.

====Union with England====
After the death of Queen [[Elizabeth I]] of England in 1603, James VI of Scotland ascended to the Throne of England, becoming [[James I]] of England. He was the first monarch to call himself King of Great Britain. This is referred to as the Union of the Crowns. James was also at this time King of [[Ireland]].

The Parliaments of Scotland and [[England]] were not united until 1707 and it is this date that is recognized as the formation of [[Great Britain]]. This is referred to as the Union of the Parliaments. (The [[United Kingdom]] was to come into being with the addition of [[Ireland]] in 1801.) The formation of the Irish Free State in 1922 resulted in the current name of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

====Monarchs of Scotland====
(the years in brackets are the years during which the monarch ruled)
*[[Malcolm II (1005-1034)]]
*[[Duncan I (1034-1040)]]
*[[Macbeth (1040-1057)]]
*[[Malcolm III (1057-1093)]]
*[[Donald Bane (1093-1094)]]
*[[Duncan II (1094)]]
*[[Donald Bane (1093-1097)]]
*[[Edgar (1097-1107)]]
*[[Alexander I (1107-1124)]]
*[[David I (1124-1153)]]
*[[Malcolm IV (1153-1195)]]
*[[William (The Lion) (1165-1214)]]
*[[Alexander II (1214-1249)]]
*[[Alexander III (1249-1286)]]
*[[Margaret of Norway (1286-1290)]]
*[[John Baliol (1292-1296)]]
*[[Robert I (1306-1329)]]
*[[David II|David II (1329-1371)]]
'''House Of Stuart'''
*[[Robert II|Robert II (1371-1390)]]
*[[Robert III (1390-1406)]]
*[[James I (1406-1437)]]
*[[James II (1437-1460)]]
*[[James III (1460-1488)]]
*[[James IV (1488-1513)]]
*[[James V (1513-1542)]]
*[[Mary Queen of Scots]] (1542-1567)
*[[James VI (1567-1625)]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.n-cyclopedia.com/scottish-history/index.htm A Brief History of Scotland]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scotland]]
[[Category:United Kingdom]]
[[Category:Scottish Culture]]

Scotland

2009-02-20T22:21:47Z

PhilipV:

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'''Scotland''' is the second-largest and northern-most of the four countries in the [[United Kingdom]].
It is about three-eighths the size of its southern neighbour England, but is much less populous; most of the population lives in the ''central belt'', a band across central Scotland between the capital [[Edinburgh]] and the largest city, [[Glasgow]]. Other cities are [[Aberdeen]] and [[Dundee]]. [[Inverness]] and [[Stirling]] were granted city status recently but are in fact smaller than some of the larger Scottish towns like Paisley and Perth.

The symbol of Scotland is the [[thistle]]. The Scottish flag is the Cross of St. Andrew, a white diagonal cross on a dark blue background. The design originated in the 9th century.
Scotland's motto is ''Nemo Me Impune Lacessit'' ("No one provokes me with impunity")<ref>http://www.scotland-guide.co.uk/ALL_AREAS_IN_SCOTLAND/Glasgow/Areas/Centre/Mercat_Cross.htm </ref>

==Geography==
Scotland is split into three distinct geographical regions; the mountainous Highlands to the north, the rolling countryside of the Central Lowlands (where the major urban centres are located) and the hilly Southern Uplands that lie next to the English border. Scotland also includes the island groups of [[Orkney]], [[Shetland]], the [[Inner Hebrides|Inner]] and [[Outer Hebrides]], the islands of the [[Firth of Clyde]] including [[Arran]], [[Bute]], [[Cumbrae]] & [[Wee Cumbrae]], the [[St. Kilda]] archipelago, [[Rockall]] and various other smaller islands.

[[Ben Nevis]], the highest mountain in the [[United Kingdom]], is in the Scottish [[Highlands of Scotland|Highlands]], as are most of the nation's highest mountains. Those with heights above 3000 feet are eponymously named [[Munro| Munros]] after Sir Hector Munro, the first person to compile a list of such mountains.<ref> for a complete list of Munros see http://www.sol.co.uk/d/dickwall/munroes.htm</ref>

Scotland has some 2,300 miles of coastline, much of it in broad or narrow bays called ''firths''. Major rivers include the Tay, Tweed, Clyde, and Forth. The Spey is Scotland's longest river. Freshwater lakes (or ''lochs'') are abundant; Lochs Lomond, Morar, and Ness are the largest in the British Isles and well-known for their picturesque beauty, with Loch Ness having additional fame as the home of a legendary monster.

==People==

====Religion====
Scotland is historically [[Christian]]; the national church is the [[Church of Scotland]]. Scotland was a [[Catholic]] nation until the time of the [[Reformation]], when many Scottish scholars returned from their travels in Germany, having studied the works of [[Martin Luther]]. This caused a religious change in Scotland where many of the lords became [[Protestant]] and ousted the Queen of Scotland, Mary Stuart ('Mary, Queen of Scots') at the time and replaced her with her infant son, [[James VI]] (later to become [[James I]] of [[England]]). Notable figures from that time include [[John Knox]] and [[George Wishart]] both of whom were pioneers of the change. However, from the mid 19th century until the interwar period, there were large scale immigrations of Irish Catholics to Scotland's industrial urban centres and this had a profound effect on the religious demography of Scotland. Today there are a similar number of communicants of both the Roman Catholic Church and the Presbyterian Church of Scotland although both religions have suffered considerable declines in church going attendances. The [[Episcopal]]ian Church is predominant in the north-east. There are also significant populations of [[Muslim]]s, [[Hindu]]s ,[[Jew]]s and [[Sikh]]s in Scotland's major cities (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee).

====Culture and sports====

Scotland has given the English speaking world many of the languages finest writers, poets and philosophers. Among these are Adam Smith, David Hume, Sir Walter Scott, Robert Burns, Frances Hutcheson, James Hogg, Robert Louis Stevenson, Arthur Conan Doyle, J.M Barrie and Hugh Macdairmid. The Scottish intellectual and cultural tradition can be traced back to the Scottish Enlightenment, a remarkable period in the 18th century characterized by an outpouring of intellectual and scientific accomplishments. Indeed it was Voltaire who said "we look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation." Scotland is also famous for its disproportionate amount of inventors and scientists such as Alexander Graham Bell (telephone), Lord Kelvin (the Kelvin si unit of temperature), James Watt (condensed steam power), John Napier (logarithms and the decimal point), Joseph Lister (pioneer of antiseptics), Alexander Fleming (penicillin) James Clark Maxwell (electro-magnetism), Robert Watson Watt (radar) and John Logie Baird (television). It is home to ancient world class universities such as Edinburgh, Glasgow and St Andrews Universities and being one of the first industrialised and urbanised nations in the world.

A national preoccupation ,is [[football (soccer)]]. Other diversions include [[rugby]], [[lawn bowls]], [[motorsports]], [[horseracing]], [[shinty]] (similar to hockey), [[curling]], sports of the [[Highland Games]] - such as tossing the [[caber]] and, of course, [[golf]]. Scotland is the home of golf. The Royal and Ancient Golf Club at [[St Andrews]] is the governing body of world golf.

Other things associated with the country are [[kilt]]s ([[tartan]] skirtlike garments worn by Scotsmen), and the haunting music of the [[bagpipes]]. Famous Scottish products include [[pie]]s, [[haggis]] and Scotch [[whisky]].

==Government==
Scotland has its own [[Scottish Parliament]] comprising 129 members (MSPs) as well as sending 59 Members of Parliament (MPs) to represent its interests in the [[United Kingdom]] parliament which sits in [[London]]. Scottish MPs have historically been recognized for their political skills and appointed to the Cabinet in larger numbers than is proportionate. The current Prime Minister [[Gordon Brown]], is Scottish, and formerly he was [[Chancellor of the Exchequer]].

The '''Scottish Government''' (formerly known as the Scottish Executive) is the government in Scotland for devolved matters. Responsibility for all devolved matters was passed to the Scottish Executive from the
'''Scottish Office''' and other UK Government departments in 1999. The members of the Scottish Government are chosen from the party or parties holding most seats in the Parliament. The Scottish Government is led by the First Minister, who forms a ministerial team of Cabinet Secretaries. In the election on May 3 2007, the [[Scottish National Party]] won the largest number of seats, but not enough for an absolute majority. At the moment the party forms a minority government.

===Principal Government Officials===

===Relations with England===
Relationships between Scottish and English MPs before [[devolution]] were sometimes tense because of what the former [[Conservative|Conservative Party]] MP, by then an [[Ulster Unionist]], [[Enoch Powell]] dubbed ''The West Lothian question''. The name arose in 1977 after [[Tam Dalyell]], Labour MP for West Lothian in Scotland, asked during a debate in the [[Houses of Parliament]] over Scottish and Welsh [[devolution]]:

<blockquote>''For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate... at least 119 Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on British politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?''</blockquote>

He pointed out that he as MP for West Lothian could vote on matters affecting English constituencies but not his own constituency.

==Economy==
Scotland's position at the forefront of the industrial revolution in the 19th century bequeathed a legacy of heavy engineering and manufacturing that lasted well into the 20th century. However with de-industrialisation from the 1970s onwards and latterly the relocation of manufacturing jobs to countries with lower labour costs (eg. Eastern Europe) the Scottish economy is now heavily dependant on tourism, the oil industry, agriculture, the service industry and public sector jobs.

==History==
Scotland has been inhabited since the first [[Mesolithic]] hunter-gatherers are thought to have migrated to Scotland.<ref>At least 8500 years before recorded history dealt with Britain, according to the uniformitarian timescale. [http://www.scotlandhistory.net/ Scotland History], Wormland, Jenny. Scotland: a History. 2005, Oxford: Oxford University Press. p.1</ref>
These inhabitants showed advanced knowledge of astronomy, creating several [[Stonehenge]]-like monuments.

At the time of the [[Roman]]s the tribes in what became Scotland were similar to those further south, and can be considered to be [[Celtic]] peoples. Those from the North-East were called ‘Picti’ (Picts) by Roman writers, which could mean ‘painted people' and refer to tattoos. The Romans never subdued these northern tribes, and after a brief period when the Antonine Wall between the Firths of Forth and Clyde was the Roman Empire’s northern frontier, they drew back and had [[Hadrian’s Wall]] as the frontier. They did try to influence the tribes between the two Walls, and when kingdoms like Strathclyde emerged in the early [[Dark Ages]], their rulers often bore Roman names or titles, the dynasties having been founded by Roman officials. The Scots themselves began arriving as settlers in the West of Scotland at this time (AD 400-500). They were from a part of the north of [[Ireland]] and spoke Old Irish, which changed to become Scottish [[Gaelic]], and eventually replaced Pictish. They sometimes warred with the Picts and [[Briton]]s and sometimes allied with them, but a unified kingdom under the Scottish king Kenneth Mac Alpin was established in AD 843, called ‘Alba’ (still the [[Gaelic]] name for Scotland). This kingdom took over Strathclyde in the early 11th century to form the basis of Mediaeval Scotland. [[Normans]] and their descendants such as Robert the Bruce ('de Brus' was a Norman surname) became important nobles in Scotland.

====Union with England====
After the death of Queen [[Elizabeth I]] of England in 1603, James VI of Scotland ascended to the Throne of England, becoming [[James I]] of England. He was the first monarch to call himself King of Great Britain. This is referred to as the Union of the Crowns. James was also at this time King of [[Ireland]].

The Parliaments of Scotland and [[England]] were not united until 1707 and it is this date that is recognized as the formation of [[Great Britain]]. This is referred to as the Union of the Parliaments. (The [[United Kingdom]] was to come into being with the addition of [[Ireland]] in 1801.) The formation of the Irish Free State in 1922 resulted in the current name of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

====Monarchs of Scotland====
(the years in brackets are the years during which the monarch ruled)
*[[Malcolm II (1005-1034)]]
*[[Duncan I (1034-1040)]]
*[[Macbeth (1040-1057)]]
*[[Malcolm III (1057-1093)]]
*[[Donald Bane (1093-1094)]]
*[[Duncan II (1094)]]
*[[Donald Bane (1093-1097)]]
*[[Edgar (1097-1107)]]
*[[Alexander I (1107-1124)]]
*[[David I (1124-1153)]]
*[[Malcolm IV (1153-1195)]]
*[[William (The Lion) (1165-1214)]]
*[[Alexander II (1214-1249)]]
*[[Alexander III (1249-1286)]]
*[[Margaret of Norway (1286-1290)]]
*[[John Baliol (1292-1296)]]
*[[Robert I (1306-1329)]]
*[[David II|David II (1329-1371)]]
'''House Of Stuart'''
*[[Robert II|Robert II (1371-1390)]]
*[[Robert III (1390-1406)]]
*[[James I (1406-1437)]]
*[[James II (1437-1460)]]
*[[James III (1460-1488)]]
*[[James IV (1488-1513)]]
*[[James V (1513-1542)]]
*[[Mary Queen of Scots]] (1542-1567)
*[[James VI (1567-1625)]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.n-cyclopedia.com/scottish-history/index.htm A Brief History of Scotland]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scotland]]
[[Category:United Kingdom]]
[[Category:Scottish Culture]]

Talk:Edinburgh

2009-02-20T22:19:56Z

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Edinburgh

2009-02-20T22:17:38Z

PhilipV: Removing irrelevant junk / babble (i.e. vandalism)

'''Edinburgh''' is the capital of [[Scotland]]. There is controversy over the origins of the name Edinburgh, which may derive from King Edwin of Northumbria (Edwins-burgh, burgh being the Northumbrian and later [[Scots]] word for fort or town) or from the earlier Gaelic 'Dún Eideann' (Fort of Edwin).

Edinburgh has a population of around half a million souls. It is the home of the [[Scottish Parliament]] at [[Holyrood]], the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and the world's largest annual arts festival, the [[Edinburgh International Festival]].

== The City and Its People ==

The city is also a centre of banking, commerce, education, and food processing. Its nickname is 'Auld Reekie' for its former smoky atmosphere.

The city centre of Edinburgh is divided into an 'Old Town' and a 'New Town'. The Old Town is, in effect, the medieval city, laid out either side of the 'Royal Mile' which runs west-east from the castle to the Palace of Holyroodhouse. The New Town contrasts starkly with the narrow alleys and 'wynds' of the Old; it was a planned settlement, laid out in the late 18th century, with broad, straight streets and tree-lines squares, and a calm neoclassical architecture contrasting with the higgledy-piggledy gothic of the medieval town. Princes Street, the main shopping artery of the city, forms the southern boundary of the New Town. Between the old and new Edinburghs lay a loch (lake) and marshy ground. This was drained to form ornamental gardens, which partly remain but were partly usurped in the mid 19th century to make room for Waverley Station and the city's main railway line.

== Education ==

There are three universities in Edinburgh - the University of Edinburgh (1583), Heriot Watt University (1965) and Napier University (1992). The city also has many notable private schools including Fettes College (the ''[[alma mater]]'' of [[Tony Blair]]), George Watson's College, George Heriot Academy, Castlebrae High School, Loreto College and the Marcia Blaine School for Girls. The school on which the [[St Trinian's]] films were based (St Trinnean's School) is also in Edinburgh.

== Sport ==

Edinburgh has two football clubs; Hibernian FC (nickname: the Hibees) and Heart of Midlothian FC (nickname: the Jambos). Both play in the Scottish Premier League. [[Rugby]] is also popular.

== Culture ==

The Beltane Fire Festival is a Pagan festival held on Calton Hill on April 30th of every year.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6610507.stm</ref>

== Famous natives of Edinburgh ==

*[[Sean Connery]] (actor)
*Irvine Welsh (author)
*Les McKeown (classical musician)
*[[James Connolly]] (trade unionist and Irish political agitator)
*John Leslie (television presenter)
*[[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] (author)
*[[Robert Louis Stevenson]] (author)
*Ian Rankin (author)
*[[Walter Scott]] (author)
*James Clerk Maxwell (physicist)
*[[James Hutton]] (geologist)
*John Napier (mathematician)
*[[David Hume]] (philosopher)
*[[Adam Smith]] (philosopher and economist)
*[[Tony Blair]] (politician and )
*[[Malcolm Rifkind]] (politician)

==Suburbs of Edinburgh==
[[Image:Cramond_Island.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Cramond Island and causeway]]
*'''Corstorphine''' was an independant village, but is now part of western Edinburgh, retaining a rustic seclusion around its parish church. It is also the location of Edinburgh Zoo.
*'''Cramond''' is near the site of a [[Roman] fort.; it lies west of the city on the shore of the [[Firth of Forth]] and boasts some antique buildings on its narrow village streets. It is one of the city's most expensive residential districts. Cramond is connected by a pedestrian causeway to the uninhabited Cramond Island, about a kilometre offshore. Cramond islnd was inhabited during [[World War 2]] and was fortified with a pillbox, and several gun emplacements. The pillbox and gun emplacements can still be seen today.
*'''Joppa''' is a formerly independant fishing town east of Portobello.
*'''Leith''' was an independent municipality until 1920. It is the main port of Edinburgh, although its extensive docks are now being converted into affluent residential and leisure areas. ''HMY Britannia'', the former royal yacht of Queen [[Elizabeth II]], is berthed at Leith as a tourist attraction.
*'''Morningside''' is a wealthy middle class suburb of south Edinburgh.
*'''Murrayfield''', west of the city centre, is home to the Scottish national [[Rugby Union]] stadium.
*'''Newhaven''' is a former fishing village on the shore of the Firth of Forth just west of Leith. Newhaven is being heavily developed, and little of its original architecture remains.
*'''Portobello''', on the shore of the Firth east of the city centre, is a residential and resort settlement, although the decline of 'traditional' seaside holidays in Britain has seen its fortunes waver.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scottish Cities and Towns]]

Edinburgh

2009-02-20T22:16:37Z

PhilipV:

'''Edinburgh''' is the capital of [[Scotland]]. There is controversy over the origins of the name Edinburgh, which may derive from King Edwin of Northumbria (Edwins-burgh, burgh being the Northumbrian and later [[Scots]] word for fort or town) or from the earlier Gaelic 'Dún Eideann' (Fort of Edwin).

Edinburgh has a population of around half a million souls. It is the home of the [[Scottish Parliament]] at [[Holyrood]], the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and the world's largest annual arts festival, the [[Edinburgh International Festival]].

== The City and Its People ==

The city is also a centre of banking, commerce, education, and food processing. Its nickname is 'Auld Reekie' for its former smoky atmosphere.

The city centre of Edinburgh is divided into an 'Old Town' and a 'New Town'. The Old Town is, in effect, the medieval city, laid out either side of the 'Royal Mile' which runs west-east from the castle to the Palace of Holyroodhouse. The New Town contrasts starkly with the narrow alleys and 'wynds' of the Old; it was a planned settlement, laid out in the late 18th century, with broad, straight streets and tree-lines squares, and a calm neoclassical architecture contrasting with the higgledy-piggledy gothic of the medieval town. Princes Street, the main shopping artery of the city, forms the southern boundary of the New Town. Between the old and new Edinburghs lay a loch (lake) and marshy ground. This was drained to form ornamental gardens, which partly remain but were partly usurped in the mid 19th century to make room for Waverley Station and the city's main railway line.

== Education ==

There are three universities in Edinburgh - the University of Edinburgh (1583), Heriot Watt University (1965) and Napier University (1992). The city also has many notable private schools including Fettes College (the ''[[alma mater]]'' of [[Tony Blair]]), George Watson's College, George Heriot Academy, Castlebrae High School, Loreto College and the Marcia Blaine School for Girls. The school on which the [[St Trinian's]] films were based (St Trinnean's School) is also in Edinburgh.

== Sport ==

Edinburgh has two football clubs; Hibernian FC (nickname: the Hibees) and Heart of Midlothian FC (nickname: the Jambos). Both play in the Scottish Premier League. [[Rugby]] is also popular.

== Culture ==

The Beltane Fire Festival is a Pagan festival held on Calton Hill on April 30th of every year.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6610507.stm</ref>

== Famous natives of Edinburgh ==

*[[Sean Connery]] (actor)
*Irvine Welsh (author)
*Les McKeown (classical musician)
*[[James Connolly]] (trade unionist and Irish political agitator)
*Tam Paton (child psychologist)
*John Leslie (television presenter)
*[[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] (author)
*[[Robert Louis Stevenson]] (author)
*Ian Rankin (author)
*[[Walter Scott]] (author)
*James Clerk Maxwell (physicist)
*[[James Hutton]] (geologist)
*John Napier (mathematician)
*[[David Hume]] (philosopher)
*[[Adam Smith]] (philosopher and economist)
*[[Tony Blair]] (politician and entertainer)
*[[Malcolm Rifkind]] (politician)

==Suburbs of Edinburgh==
[[Image:Cramond_Island.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Cramond Island and causeway]]
*'''Corstorphine''' was an independant village, but is now part of western Edinburgh, retaining a rustic seclusion around its parish church. It is also the location of Edinburgh Zoo.
*'''Cramond''' is near the site of a [[Roman] fort.; it lies west of the city on the shore of the [[Firth of Forth]] and boasts some antique buildings on its narrow village streets. It is one of the city's most expensive residential districts. Cramond is connected by a pedestrian causeway to the uninhabited Cramond Island, about a kilometre offshore. Cramond islnd was inhabited during [[World War 2]] and was fortified with a pillbox, and several gun emplacements. The pillbox and gun emplacements can still be seen today.
*'''Joppa''' is a formerly independant fishing town east of Portobello.
*'''Leith''' was an independent municipality until 1920. It is the main port of Edinburgh, although its extensive docks are now being converted into affluent residential and leisure areas. ''HMY Britannia'', the former royal yacht of Queen [[Elizabeth II]], is berthed at Leith as a tourist attraction.
*'''Morningside''' is a wealthy middle class suburb of south Edinburgh.
*'''Murrayfield''', west of the city centre, is home to the Scottish national [[Rugby Union]] stadium.
*'''Newhaven''' is a former fishing village on the shore of the Firth of Forth just west of Leith. Newhaven is being heavily developed, and little of its original architecture remains.
*'''Portobello''', on the shore of the Firth east of the city centre, is a residential and resort settlement, although the decline of 'traditional' seaside holidays in Britain has seen its fortunes waver.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scottish Cities and Towns]]

Edinburgh

2009-02-20T22:10:43Z

PhilipV: Rewording

'''Edinburgh''' is the capital of [[Scotland]]. There is controversy over the origins of the name Edinburgh, which may derive from King Edwin of Northumbria (Edwins-burgh, burgh being the Northumbrian and later [[Scots]] word for fort or town) or from the earlier Gaelic 'Dún Eideann' (Fort of Edwin).

Edinburgh has a population of around half a million souls. It is the home of the [[Scottish Parliament]] at [[Holyrood]], the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and the world's largest annual arts festival, the [[Edinburgh International Festival]].

== The City and Its People ==

The city is also a centre of banking, commerce, education, and food processing. Its nickname is 'Auld Reekie' for its former smoky atmosphere.

The city centre of Edinburgh is divided into an 'Old Town' and a 'New Town'. The Old Town is, in effect, the medieval city, laid out either side of the 'Royal Mile' which runs west-east from the castle to the Palace of Holyroodhouse. The New Town contrasts starkly with the narrow alleys and 'wynds' of the Old; it was a planned settlement, laid out in the late 18th century, with broad, straight streets and tree-lines squares, and a calm neoclassical architecture contrasting with the higgledy-piggledy gothic of the medieval town. Princes Street, the main shopping artery of the city, forms the southern boundary of the New Town. Between the old and new Edinburghs lay a loch (lake) and marshy ground. This was drained to form ornamental gardens, which partly remain but were partly usurped in the mid 19th century to make room for Waverley Station and the city's main railway line.

== Education ==

There are three universities in Edinburgh - the University of Edinburgh (1583), Heriot Watt University (1965) and Napier University (1992). The city also has many notable private schools including Fettes College (the ''[[alma mater]]'' of [[Tony Blair]]), George Watson's College, George Heriot Academy, Castlebrae High School, Loreto College and the Marcia Blaine School for Girls. The school on which the [[St Trinian's]] films were based (St Trinnean's School) is also in Edinburgh.

== Sport ==

Edinburgh has two football clubs; Hibernian FC (nickname: the Hibees) and Heart of Midlothian FC (nickname: the Jambos). Both play in the Scottish Premier League. [[Rugby]] is also popular.

== Culture ==

The Beltane Fire Festival is a Pagan festival held on Calton Hill on April 30th of every year.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6610507.stm</ref>

== Famous natives of Edinburgh ==

*[[Sean Connery]] (actor)
*Irvine Welsh (author)
*Les McKeown (classical musician)
*[[James Connolly]] (trade unionist and Irish political agitator)
*Tam Paton (child psychologist)
*John Leslie (television presenter)
*[[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] (author)
*[[Robert Louis Stevenson]] (author)
*Ian Rankin (author)
*[[Walter Scott]] (author)
*James Clerk Maxwell (physicist)
*[[James Hutton]] (geologist)
*John Napier (mathematician)
*[[David Hume]] (philosopher)
*[[Adam Smith]] (philosopher and economist)
*[[Tony Blair]] (politician and entertainer)
*[[Malcolm Rifkind]] (politician)

==Suburbs of Edinburgh==
[[Image:Cramond_Island.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Cramond Island and causeway]]
*'''Corstorphine''' is a former village now part of western Edinburgh, retaining a rustic seclusion around its parish kirk. It is also the location of Edinburgh Zoo.
*'''Cramond''' is the site of a [[Roman]] fort associated with the [[Antonine Wall]]; it lies west of the city on the shore of the [[Firth of Forth]] and boasts some antique buildings on its narrow village street. Inland, it is one of the city's most expensive residential districts. Cramond is connected by a pedestrian causeway to the uninhabited Cramond Island, about a kilometre offshore.
*'''Joppa''' is a seaside area east of Portobello.
*'''Leith''' was an independent municipality until 1920. It is the port of Edinburgh, although its extensive docks are now being converted into affluent residential and leisure areas. ''HMY Britannia'', the former royal yacht of Queen [[Elizabeth II]], is berthed at Leith as a tourist attraction.
*'''Morningside''' is a wealthy middle class suburb of south Edinburgh.
*'''Murrayfield''', west of the city centre, is home to the Scottish national [[Rugby Union]] stadium.
*'''Newhaven''' is a former fishing village on the shore of the Firth of Forth just west of Leith.
*'''Portobello''', on the shore of the Firth east of the city centre, is a residential and resort settlement, although the decline of 'traditional' seaside holidays in Britain has seen its fortunes waver.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scottish Cities and Towns]]

Edinburgh

2009-02-20T22:08:25Z

PhilipV: Removing irrelevant junk / babble

'''Edinburgh''' is the capital of [[Scotland]]. There is controversy over the origins of the name Edinburgh, which may derive from King Edwin of Northumbria (Edwins-burgh, burgh being the Northumbrian and later [[Scots]] word for fort or town) or from the earlier Gaelic 'Dún Eideann' (Fort of Edwin).

Edinburgh has a population of around half a million souls. It is the home of the [[Scottish Parliament]] at [[Holyrood]], the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and the world's largest annual arts festival, the [[Edinburgh International Festival]].

== The City and Its People ==

The city is also a centre of banking, commerce, education, and food processing. Its nickname is 'Auld Reekie' for its former smoky atmosphere.

The city centre of Edinburgh is divided into an 'Old Town' and a 'New Town'. The Old Town is, in effect, the medieval city, laid out either side of the 'Royal Mile' which runs west-east from the castle to the Palace of Holyroodhouse. The New Town contrasts starkly with the narrow alleys and 'wynds' of the Old; it was a planned settlement, laid out in the late 18th century, with broad, straight streets and tree-lines squares, and a calm neoclassical architecture contrasting with the higgledy-piggledy gothic of the medieval town. Princes Street, the main shopping artery of the city, forms the southern boundary of the New Town. Between the old and new Edinburghs lay a loch (lake) and marshy ground. This was drained to form ornamental gardens, which partly remain but were partly usurped in the mid 19th century to make room for Waverley Station and the city's main railway line.

== Education ==

There are three universities in Edinburgh - the University of Edinburgh (1583), Heriot Watt University (1965) and Napier University (1992). The city also has many notable private schools including Fettes College (the ''[[alma mater]]'' of [[Tony Blair]]), George Watson's College, George Heriot Academy, Castlebrae High School, Loreto College and the Marcia Blaine School for Girls. The school on which the [[St Trinian's]] films were based (St Trinnean's School) is also in Edinburgh.

== Sport ==

Edinburgh has two football clubs; Hibernian FC (nickname: the Hibees) and Heart of Midlothian FC (nickname: the Jambos). Both play in the Scottish Premier League. [[Rugby]] is also popular.

== Culture ==

There is a [[Paganism|pagan]] festival still practiced in Edinburgh. First organised in the 1980s, every 30th April sees the Beltane Fire Festival<ref>http://www.beltane.org/</ref> conducted on Calton Hill near Edinburgh City Centre.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6610507.stm</ref>

== Famous natives of Edinburgh ==

*[[Sean Connery]] (actor)
*Irvine Welsh (author)
*Les McKeown (classical musician)
*[[James Connolly]] (trade unionist and Irish political agitator)
*Tam Paton (child psychologist)
*John Leslie (television presenter)
*[[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] (author)
*[[Robert Louis Stevenson]] (author)
*Ian Rankin (author)
*[[Walter Scott]] (author)
*James Clerk Maxwell (physicist)
*[[James Hutton]] (geologist)
*John Napier (mathematician)
*[[David Hume]] (philosopher)
*[[Adam Smith]] (philosopher and economist)
*[[Tony Blair]] (politician and entertainer)
*[[Malcolm Rifkind]] (politician)

==Suburbs of Edinburgh==
[[Image:Cramond_Island.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Cramond Island and causeway]]
*'''Corstorphine''' is a former village now part of western Edinburgh, retaining a rustic seclusion around its parish kirk. It is also the location of Edinburgh Zoo.
*'''Cramond''' is the site of a [[Roman]] fort associated with the [[Antonine Wall]]; it lies west of the city on the shore of the [[Firth of Forth]] and boasts some antique buildings on its narrow village street. Inland, it is one of the city's most expensive residential districts. Cramond is connected by a pedestrian causeway to the uninhabited Cramond Island, about a kilometre offshore.
*'''Joppa''' is a seaside area east of Portobello.
*'''Leith''' was an independent municipality until 1920. It is the port of Edinburgh, although its extensive docks are now being converted into affluent residential and leisure areas. ''HMY Britannia'', the former royal yacht of Queen [[Elizabeth II]], is berthed at Leith as a tourist attraction.
*'''Morningside''' is a wealthy middle class suburb of south Edinburgh.
*'''Murrayfield''', west of the city centre, is home to the Scottish national [[Rugby Union]] stadium.
*'''Newhaven''' is a former fishing village on the shore of the Firth of Forth just west of Leith.
*'''Portobello''', on the shore of the Firth east of the city centre, is a residential and resort settlement, although the decline of 'traditional' seaside holidays in Britain has seen its fortunes waver.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scottish Cities and Towns]]

Edinburgh

2009-02-20T22:07:27Z

PhilipV: Deleting blatant vandalism

'''Edinburgh''' is the capital of [[Scotland]]. There is controversy over the origins of the name Edinburgh, which may derive from King Edwin of Northumbria (Edwins-burgh, burgh being the Northumbrian and later [[Scots]] word for fort or town) or from the earlier Gaelic 'Dún Eideann' (Fort of Edwin).

Edinburgh has a population of around half a million souls. It is the home of the [[Scottish Parliament]] at [[Holyrood]], the General Assembly of the Church of Scotland, and the world's largest annual arts festival, the [[Edinburgh International Festival]].

== The City and Its People ==

The city is also a centre of banking, commerce, education, and food processing. Its nickname is 'Auld Reekie' for its former smoky atmosphere.

The city centre of Edinburgh is divided into an 'Old Town' and a 'New Town'. The Old Town is, in effect, the medieval city, laid out either side of the 'Royal Mile' which runs west-east from the castle to the Palace of Holyroodhouse. The New Town contrasts starkly with the narrow alleys and 'wynds' of the Old; it was a planned settlement, laid out in the late 18th century, with broad, straight streets and tree-lines squares, and a calm neoclassical architecture contrasting with the higgledy-piggledy gothic of the medieval town. Princes Street, the main shopping artery of the city, forms the southern boundary of the New Town. Between the old and new Edinburghs lay a loch (lake) and marshy ground. This was drained to form ornamental gardens, which partly remain but were partly usurped in the mid 19th century to make room for Waverley Station and the city's main railway line.

== Education ==

There are three universities in Edinburgh - the University of Edinburgh (1583), Heriot Watt University (1965) and Napier University (1992). The city also has many notable private schools including Fettes College (the ''[[alma mater]]'' of [[Tony Blair]]), George Watson's College, George Heriot Academy, Castlebrae High School, Loreto College and the Marcia Blaine School for Girls. The school on which the [[St Trinian's]] films were based (St Trinnean's School) is also in Edinburgh.

== Sport ==

Edinburgh has two football clubs; Hibernian FC (nickname: the Hibees) and Heart of Midlothian FC (nickname: the Jambos). Both play in the Scottish Premier League. [[Rugby]] is also popular.

== Culture ==

There is a [[Paganism|pagan]] festival still practiced in Edinburgh. First organised in the 1980s, every 30th April sees the Beltane Fire Festival<ref>http://www.beltane.org/</ref> conducted on Calton Hill near Edinburgh City Centre.<ref>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6610507.stm</ref>

== Famous natives of Edinburgh ==

*[[Sean Connery]] (actor)
*Irvine Welsh (author)
*Les McKeown (classical musician)
*[[James Connolly]] (trade unionist and Irish political agitator)
*Tam Paton (child psychologist)
*John Leslie (television presenter)
*[[Sir Arthur Conan Doyle]] (author)
*[[Robert Louis Stevenson]] (author)
*Ian Rankin (author)
*[[Walter Scott]] (author)
*James Clerk Maxwell (physicist)
*[[James Hutton]] (geologist)
*John Napier (mathematician)
*[[David Hume]] (philosopher)
*[[Adam Smith]] (philosopher and economist)
*[[Tony Blair]] (politician and entertainer)
*[[Malcolm Rifkind]] (politician)

==Suburbs of Edinburgh==
[[Image:Cramond_Island.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Cramond Island and causeway]]
*'''Corstorphine''' is a former village now part of western Edinburgh, retaining a rustic seclusion around its parish kirk. It is also the location of Edinburgh Zoo.
*'''Cramond''' is the site of a [[Roman]] fort associated with the [[Antonine Wall]]; it lies west of the city on the shore of the [[Firth of Forth]] and boasts some antique buildings on its narrow village street. Inland, it is one of the city's most expensive residential districts. Cramond is connected by a pedestrian causeway to the uninhabited Cramond Island, about a kilometre offshore.
*'''Joppa''' is a seaside area east of Portobello.
*'''Leith''' was an independent municipality until 1920. It is the port of Edinburgh, although its extensive docks are now being converted into affluent residential and leisure areas. ''HMY Britannia'', the former royal yacht of Queen [[Elizabeth II]], is berthed at Leith as a tourist attraction.
*'''Morningside''' is a wealthy middle class suburb of south Edinburgh, whose inhabitants are popularly supposed to speak in an affected accent and display extremes of genteel behaviour.
*'''Murrayfield''', west of the city centre, is home to the Scottish national [[Rugby Union]] stadium.
*'''Newhaven''' is a former fishing village on the shore of the Firth of Forth just west of Leith.
*'''Portobello''', on the shore of the Firth east of the city centre, is a residential and resort settlement, although the decline of 'traditional' seaside holidays in Britain has seen its fortunes waver.

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scottish Cities and Towns]]

Midlothian

2009-02-20T22:04:00Z

PhilipV: New page: Midlothian is a county situated in central Scotland. Edinburgh, Scotland's capital, is situated in Midlothian. Category:Scottish Counties and Regions

Midlothian is a county situated in central Scotland. [[Edinburgh]], Scotland's capital, is situated in Midlothian.

[[Category:Scottish Counties and Regions]]

Edinburgh and Falkirk and Lothian

2009-02-20T22:01:11Z

PhilipV: Redirecting to Midlothian

#REDIRECT [[Midlothian]]

[[Category:Scottish Counties and Regions]]

Renfrewshire

2009-02-20T21:59:50Z

PhilipV: rewording

{{stub}}

Renfrewshire is a county in western [[Scotland]].

[[Category:Scottish Counties and Regions]]

Alexander I (1107-1124)

2009-01-30T14:34:27Z

PhilipV:

Alexander I 'The Fierce' was famous for his piety, and as a generous donor to the churches of scotland. Alexander I was named after Pope Alexander II.

==References==
<references/>
[[Category:Scottish Monarchs]]

Alexander I (1107-1124)

2009-01-30T14:33:24Z

PhilipV:

Alexander I 'The Fierce' was famous for his piety, and as a generous donator to the churches of scotland. Alexander I was named after Pope Alexander II.

==References==
<references/>
[[Category:Scottish Monarchs]]

Scotland

2009-01-30T14:32:45Z

PhilipV: removing childish comment of mine, many apologies for my apparent childishness.

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'''Scotland''' is the second-largest and northern-most of the four countries in the [[United Kingdom]].
It is about three-eighths the size of its southern neighbour England, but is much less populous; most of the population lives in the ''central belt'', a band across central Scotland between the capital [[Edinburgh]] and the largest city, [[Glasgow]]. Other cities are [[Aberdeen]] and [[Dundee]]. [[Inverness]] and [[Stirling]] were granted city status recently but are in fact smaller than some of the larger Scottish towns like Paisley and Perth.

The symbol of Scotland is the [[thistle]]. The Scottish flag is the Cross of St. Andrew, a white diagonal cross on a dark blue background. The design originated in the 9th century.
Scotland's motto is ''Nemo Me Impune Lacessit'' ("No one provokes me with impunity")<ref>http://www.scotland-guide.co.uk/ALL_AREAS_IN_SCOTLAND/Glasgow/Areas/Centre/Mercat_Cross.htm </ref>

==Geography==
Scotland is split into three distinct geographical regions; the mountainous Highlands to the north, the rolling countryside of the Central Lowlands (where the major urban centres are located) and the hilly Southern Uplands that lie next to the English border. Scotland also includes the island groups of [[Orkney]], [[Shetland]], the [[Inner Hebrides|Inner]] and [[Outer Hebrides]], the islands of the [[Firth of Clyde]] including [[Arran]], [[Bute]], [[Cumbrae]] & [[Wee Cumbrae]], the [[St. Kilda]] archipelago, [[Rockall]] and various other smaller islands.

[[Ben Nevis]], the highest mountain in the [[United Kingdom]], is in the Scottish [[Highlands of Scotland|Highlands]], as are most of the nation's highest mountains. Those with heights above 3000 feet are eponymously named [[Munro| Munros]] after Sir Hector Munro, the first person to compile a list of such mountains.<ref> for a complete list of Munros see http://www.sol.co.uk/d/dickwall/munroes.htm</ref>

Scotland has some 2,300 miles of coastline, much of it in broad or narrow bays called ''firths''. Major rivers include the Tay, Tweed, Clyde, and Forth. The Spey is Scotland's longest river. Freshwater lakes (or ''lochs'') are abundant; Lochs Lomond, Morar, and Ness are the largest in the British Isles and well-known for their picturesque beauty, with Loch Ness having additional fame as the home of a legendary monster.

==People==

====Religion====
Scotland is historically [[Christian]]; the national church is the [[Church of Scotland]]. Scotland was a [[Catholic]] nation until the time of the [[Reformation]], when many Scottish scholars returned from their travels in Germany, having studied the works of [[Martin Luther]]. This caused a religious change in Scotland where many of the lords became [[Protestant]] and ousted the Queen of Scotland, Mary Stuart ('Mary, Queen of Scots') at the time and replaced her with her infant son, [[James VI]] (later to become [[James I]] of [[England]]). Notable figures from that time include [[John Knox]] and [[George Wishart]] both of whom were pioneers of the change. However, from the mid 19th century until the interwar period, there were large scale immigrations of Irish Catholics to Scotland's industrial urban centres and this had a profound effect on the religious demography of Scotland. Today there are a similar number of communicants of both the Roman Catholic Church and the Presbyterian Church of Scotland although both religions have suffered considerable declines in church going attendances. The [[Episcopal]]ian Church is predominant in the north-east. There are also significant populations of [[Muslim]]s, [[Hindu]]s ,[[Jew]]s and [[Sikh]]s in Scotland's major cities (Edinburgh, Glasgow, Aberdeen and Dundee).

====Culture and sports====

Scotland has given the English speaking world many of the languages finest writers, poets and philosophers. Among these are Adam Smith, David Hume, Sir Walter Scott, Robert Burns, Frances Hutcheson, James Hogg, Robert Louis Stevenson, Arthur Conan Doyle, J.M Barrie and Hugh Macdairmid. The Scottish intellectual and cultural tradition can be traced back to the Scottish Enlightenment, a remarkable period in the 18th century characterized by an outpouring of intellectual and scientific accomplishments. Indeed it was Voltaire who said "we look to Scotland for all our ideas of civilisation." Scotland is also famous for its disproportionate amount of inventors and scientists such as Alexander Graham Bell (telephone), Lord Kelvin (the Kelvin si unit of temperature), James Watt (condensed steam power), John Napier (logarithms and the decimal point), Joseph Lister (pioneer of antiseptics), Alexander Fleming (penicillin) James Clark Maxwell (electro-magnetism), Robert Watson Watt (radar) and John Logie Baird (television). It is home to ancient world class universities such as Edinburgh, Glasgow and St Andrews Universities and being one of the first industrialised and urbanised nations in the world.

The national preoccupation, indeed obsession, is [[football (soccer)]]. Other diversions include [[rugby]], [[lawn bowls]], [[motorsports]], [[horseracing]], [[shinty]] (similar to hockey), [[curling]], sports of the [[Highland Games]] - such as tossing the [[caber]] and, of course, [[golf]]. Scotland is the home of golf. The Royal and Ancient Golf Club at [[St Andrews]] is the governing body of world golf.

Other things associated with the country are [[kilt]]s ([[tartan]] skirtlike garments worn by Scotsmen), and the haunting music of the [[bagpipes]]. Famous Scottish products include [[pie]]s, [[haggis]] and Scotch [[whisky]].

==Government==
Scotland has its own [[Scottish Parliament]] comprising 129 members (MSPs) as well as sending 59 Members of Parliament (MPs) to represent its interests in the [[United Kingdom]] parliament which sits in [[London]]. Scottish MPs have historically been recognized for their political skills and appointed to the Cabinet in larger numbers than is proportionate. The current Prime Minister [[Gordon Brown]], is Scottish, and formerly he was [[Chancellor of the Exchequer]].

The '''Scottish Government''' (formerly known as the Scottish Executive) is the government in Scotland for devolved matters. Responsibility for all devolved matters was passed to the Scottish Executive from the
'''Scottish Office''' and other UK Government departments in 1999. The members of the Scottish Government are chosen from the party or parties holding most seats in the Parliament. The Scottish Government is led by the First Minister, who forms a ministerial team of Cabinet Secretaries. In the election on May 3 2007, the [[Scottish National Party]] won the largest number of seats, but not enough for an absolute majority. At the moment the party forms a minority government.

===Principal Government Officials===

===Relations with England===
Relationships between Scottish and English MPs before [[devolution]] were sometimes tense because of what the former [[Conservative|Conservative Party]] MP, by then an [[Ulster Unionist]], [[Enoch Powell]] dubbed ''The West Lothian question''. The name arose in 1977 after [[Tam Dalyell]], Labour MP for West Lothian in Scotland, asked during a debate in the [[Houses of Parliament]] over Scottish and Welsh [[devolution]]:

<blockquote>''For how long will English constituencies and English Honourable members tolerate... at least 119 Honourable Members from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland exercising an important, and probably often decisive, effect on British politics while they themselves have no say in the same matters in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland?''</blockquote>

He pointed out that he as MP for West Lothian could vote on matters affecting English constituencies but not his own constituency.

==Economy==
Scotland's position at the forefront of the industrial revolution in the 19th century bequeathed a legacy of heavy engineering and manufacturing that lasted well into the 20th century. However with de-industrialisation from the 1970s onwards and latterly the relocation of manufacturing jobs to countries with lower labour costs (eg. Eastern Europe) the Scottish economy is now heavily dependant on tourism, the oil industry, agriculture, the service industry and public sector jobs.

==History==
Scotland has been inhabited since the first [[Mesolithic]] hunter-gatherers are thought to have migrated to Scotland.<ref>At least 8500 years before recorded history dealt with Britain, according to the uniformitarian timescale. [http://www.scotlandhistory.net/ Scotland History], Wormland, Jenny. Scotland: a History. 2005, Oxford: Oxford University Press. p.1</ref>
These inhabitants showed advanced knowledge of astronomy, creating several [[Stonehenge]]-like monuments.

At the time of the [[Roman]]s the tribes in what became Scotland were similar to those further south, and can be considered to be [[Celtic]] peoples. Those from the North-East were called ‘Picti’ (Picts) by Roman writers, which could mean ‘painted people' and refer to tattoos. The Romans never subdued these northern tribes, and after a brief period when the Antonine Wall between the Firths of Forth and Clyde was the Roman Empire’s northern frontier, they drew back and had [[Hadrian’s Wall]] as the frontier. They did try to influence the tribes between the two Walls, and when kingdoms like Strathclyde emerged in the early [[Dark Ages]], their rulers often bore Roman names or titles, the dynasties having been founded by Roman officials. The Scots themselves began arriving as settlers in the West of Scotland at this time (AD 400-500). They were from a part of the north of [[Ireland]] and spoke Old Irish, which changed to become Scottish [[Gaelic]], and eventually replaced Pictish. They sometimes warred with the Picts and [[Briton]]s and sometimes allied with them, but a unified kingdom under the Scottish king Kenneth Mac Alpin was established in AD 843, called ‘Alba’ (still the [[Gaelic]] name for Scotland). This kingdom took over Strathclyde in the early 11th century to form the basis of Mediaeval Scotland. [[Normans]] and their descendants such as Robert the Bruce ('de Brus' was a Norman surname) became important nobles in Scotland.

====Union with England====
After the death of Queen [[Elizabeth I]] of England in 1603, James VI of Scotland ascended to the Throne of England, becoming [[James I]] of England. He was the first monarch to call himself King of Great Britain. This is referred to as the Union of the Crowns. James was also at this time King of [[Ireland]].

The Parliaments of Scotland and [[England]] were not united until 1707 and it is this date that is recognized as the formation of [[Great Britain]]. This is referred to as the Union of the Parliaments. (The [[United Kingdom]] was to come into being with the addition of [[Ireland]] in 1801.) The formation of the Irish Free State in 1922 resulted in the current name of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

====Monarchs of Scotland====
(the years in brackets are the years during which the monarch ruled)
*[[Malcolm II (1005-1034)]]
*[[Duncan I (1034-1040)]]
*[[Macbeth (1040-1057)]]
*[[Malcolm III (1057-1093)]]
*[[Donald Bane (1093-1094)]]
*[[Duncan II (1094)]]
*[[Donald Bane (1093-1097)]]
*[[Edgar (1097-1107)]]
*[[Alexander I (1107-1124)]]
*[[David I (1124-1153)]]
*[[Malcolm IV (1153-1195)]]
*[[William (The Lion) (1165-1214)]]
*[[Alexander II (1214-1249)]]
*[[Alexander III (1249-1286)]]
*[[Margaret of Norway (1286-1290)]]
*[[John Baliol (1292-1296)]]
*[[Robert I (1306-1329)]]
*[[David II|David II (1329-1371)]]
'''House Of Stuart'''
*[[Robert II|Robert II (1371-1390)]]
*[[Robert III (1390-1406)]]
*[[James I (1406-1437)]]
*[[James II (1437-1460)]]
*[[James III (1460-1488)]]
*[[James IV (1488-1513)]]
*[[James V (1513-1542)]]
*[[Mary Queen of Scots]] (1542-1567)
*[[James VI (1567-1625)]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.n-cyclopedia.com/scottish-history/index.htm A Brief History of Scotland]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Scotland]]
[[Category:United Kingdom]]
[[Category:Scottish Culture]]

MediaWiki talk:Usernameblacklist

2009-01-29T13:30:31Z

PhilipV: /* Request */ new section

Any additions to the blacklist will be passed onto an administrator who can modify the list. [[User:Niandra|Niandra]] [[User talk:Niandra|talk]] 05:24, 23 July 2007 (EDT)

I attempted to add "FBI" myself, but the other filter makes editing this impossible. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 15:41, 13 August 2007 (EDT)

==Additions recommended==
*11 - or any subsequent numbers
*AAA
*beastiality/bestiality
*faggot(s)
*fags
*rapist
*1337
*RAPED
*FBI
*Hitler
*antichrist

== Request ==

Could we make this page unreadable by non-sysops? The content of it isn't family-friendly and a curious child could find it. ---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 08:30, 29 January 2009 (EST)

Acadia National Park

2009-01-19T13:05:01Z

PhilipV:

{{Ib_Protected_area
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|width=300
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|base_width=288
|base_caption=US locator map
|x_pos=275
|y_pos=33
|area=47,400 acres (191.8 km²) {46,197 acres (187.0 km²) federal}
|location = [[Maine]], [[USA]]
|nearest_city = Bar harbor, ME
|coords =
|established = July 8, 1916
|entrance_fee =
|visitation_num = 2,202,228
|visitation_year = 2007
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Acadia National Park is was one of the first national parks. It encompasses more than 47,000 acres of lakes, ponds, mountains, forests, and ocean shoreline along the coast of [[Maine]]. Cadillac Mountain in Acadia National Park is the tallest mountain along the eastern coast of the United States.

==References==

*http://www.nps.gov/acad/index.htm NPS - Acadia

{{Nb_US_national_parks}}

Hawaii Volcanoes National Park

2009-01-19T12:54:29Z

PhilipV:

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|area=323,431 acres (1,308.9 km²) {323,431 acres (1,308.9 km²) federal}
|location = [[Hawaii]]
|nearest_city = Hilo, Hawaii, HI
|coords =
|established = August 1, 1916
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|visitation_year = 2007
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Hawaii volcanoes national park is famuos for it's volcanic activity. The Park encompasses a wide diversity of ecosystems and habitat for numerous native Hawaiian species such as carnivorous caterpillars, happy face spiders and colorful Hawaiian honeycreepers.
Over 90% of lifeforms in Hawaii are unique to the Hawaiian islands.
==References==
<references/>

{{Nb_US_national_parks}}

<ref>[http://www.nps.gov/havo/index.htm NPS - Hawaii Volcanoes]</ref>

Bible Versions

2009-01-10T02:11:25Z

PhilipV:

There are several versions of the Holy Bible currently in print.

Examples include:

*The [[Living Bible]]
*The [[Good News Bible]]
*The Contemporary English Edition
*The "God's Word" Bible
*The 21st Century [[King James Bible]]
*The American Standard version
{{Bible Versions}}[[Category:Bible]]

User talk:AddisonDM

2009-01-10T02:08:12Z

PhilipV: /* Requests for adminship */ new section

{{Welcome}}
Hey!! Welcome to Conservapedia. [[User:BethanyS|~Beth]][[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']] 13:40, 15 October 2008 (EDT)

== Edits to [[1984]] ==

Thanks for your superb edits to 1984. You might be interested in this discussion we've had about Orwell:[[Mystery:Did George Orwell Become a Conservative?]]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:45, 29 October 2008 (EDT)

Hey, thanks! I added a new section also, called Governmental Structure. I also revamped the plot a bit.

== The Message ==

I really enjoyed your new entry [[The Message]] and your quote from Psalm 23!--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:40, 20 December 2008 (EST)

Hey thanks! You gave me the idea to create articles about Bibles. I'd even like to make a table of all the translations and put it at the bottom of the pages, you know.

: I bet there's more good stuff to find in Bible translations, and it's extremely educational to study these issues. I find it fascinating.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 22:19, 20 December 2008 (EST)

== Second model answer ==

I just added a second model answer from your homework. Well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 11:16, 21 December 2008 (EST)

Thanks so much! Hey, I did a real good job! :)

== Block reversed ==

I'm surprised that you were able even to edit my talk page. In any event, the block has been removed.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 23:04, 29 December 2008 (EST)

Thanks. Interestingly, it disappeared a few minutes later so that in fact I have been editing all day. Who knows. But thanks. [[User:AddisonDM]] 29 December 2008

== Please feel free to create a [[Creation]] article and then put the pics you wanted in the article. ==

Please feel free to create a [[Creation]] article and then put the pics you wanted in the article. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 21:06, 31 December 2008 (EST)

== Congratulations! ==

Congratulations on your promotion to Sysop (Admin) status! This gives you many new privileges. Well deserved!--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 23:45, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Wow! That is honoring. Haha now I can edit at night! Thanks so much. Happy New Year all! [[User:AddisonDM]] 1 January 2009

: Very well deserved indeed!--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 00:54, 1 January 2009 (EST)
Congrats Addison. I hope we can work together on the news project, etc. this year. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 01:21, 1 January 2009 (EST)
::and many congratulations (and happy new year!) from me too. I look forward to working even closer with you this year.--[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']] 06:27, 1 January 2009 (EST)

:::: Congratulations! --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 09:08, 1 January 2009 (EST)

::::: You did good kid, go team and Happy New Year. --Jpatt 23:02, 1 January 2009 (EST)

Thank you all so much. Happy and BLESSED New Year. [[User:AddisonDM]] 1 January 2009

Congratulations on your promotion! --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 13:16, 4 January 2009 (EST)

==Move requests==

Thank you for taking care of all these move requests. Some of them had been bugging me for quite some time, but unfortunately there was nothing I could do about them. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 12:06, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Thanks! [[User:AddisonDM]] 3 January 2009

== Some help? ==

Would you like some help with all those moves? Problem is I can not remember where to find the list of pages! --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']] 13:13, 3 January 2009 (EST)

You made a good decision on using "Debate" for debates, Addison, rather than putting them in the "Conservapedia" namespace.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:19, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Thanks.

Terrific cleaning up with your deletions!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:11, 3 January 2009 (EST)

Thank you!

:Thanks for the [[Edmund Ironside]] fix. I had asked for that to be done months ago but was ignored. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 15:56, 3 January 2009 (EST)
::I think I have finished the debates clean up. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']] 04:29, 4 January 2009 (EST)

== Please block ==

I see that you are an administrator. Could you please block [[User:NumaL]], he is making a mess. [[User:Kuyper|Daniel_Kuyper]] 11:46, 4 January 2009 (EST)

==Oklahoma City Thunder==
Thanks for moving that page! [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|Hello!]] 12:19, 4 January 2009 (EST)

== Essay:Examples of Moronic Vandalism by the "tolerant" ==

Addison, I'm sorry, but I had to delete your essay for inappropriate content. Even though you substituted symbols for the vowels, it was still inappropriate. --[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 18:48, 4 January 2009 (EST)

Alright. That will stand unless and until Andy himself agrees. In fact, he likes it. I am going to ask him what he thinks. As he says, he has the last word.

== Could you re-name an article??? ==

Hello AddisonDM!!! I was wondering if you could change the title of the [[Why do people choose homosexuality?]] article to "Mystery:Why do people choose homosexuality?". It is in the category mystery but is not titled like the others (i.e. does not have "Mystery" on the beginning of the title). If you could fix that I would appreciate that very much. Hope you had a merry Christmas and a happy new year!!! --[[User:AmeliaJ|AmeliaJ]] 17:56, 5 January 2009 (EST)

Your welcome!!! --[[User:AmeliaJ|AmeliaJ]] 18:05, 5 January 2009 (EST)
#
==Urgent==
Please see Michaelds' edits and do whatever necessary [[User:Bradlaugh|Bradlaugh]] 18:07, 5 January 2009 (EST)

I believe he is already gone.

== Templates ==

Addison, all templates are to be locked, sysop only, all the time. No exceptions. Per Andy. Thanks! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Administrator[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 02:07, 6 January 2009 (EST)

:This wasn't acknowledged....did you see it? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Administrator[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 14:18, 6 January 2009 (EST)

== Hans Christian Andersen ==

Hi, I noticed you added an edit to the page [[Hans Christian Anderson]]. I added a merge template to this page back in September 2008, noting that the name of the article is '''mis-spelled''' and should be [[Hans Christian Andersen]] for which we also have a page. Somehow the suggestion to merge must have been overlooked, and edits continued to be made to the page with the incorrect name. Now that you are a Sysop, I think you should be able to correct the name of the page, otherwise I would urge you to merge the two pages, and not to keep the page that is mis-spelled. Thanks! [[User:Taj|Taj]] 19:27, 6 January 2009 (EST)
:That was fast - you must have fixed this 30 seconds before I hit save on this edit, lol. Thanks! [[User:Taj|Taj]] 19:30, 6 January 2009 (EST)

:Hi AddmisonDM,

:It's best to just redirect the pages instead of deleting them first. That way it saves a step and also saves the history.

:Thanks

:[[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:55, 7 January 2009 (EST)

== Answer to question Re. Favicon ==

Addison, I just created a "mini-logo" (referred to as a favicon). Thanks for the suggestion! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 22:44, 7 January 2009 (EST)

==HEYYYYYYYY==
How's your studying going??!!!! Got any tips to give me?? ;-P JK... [[User:BethanyS|~Beth]][[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']] 18:54, 8 January 2009 (EST)

== Requests for adminship ==

The 'Conservapedia : Requests for Adminship' page is on the wanted page list even though you deleted it, should i recreate it, or should i leave the space empty?---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 21:08, 9 January 2009 (EST)

File talk:China Mex RGarciaOrtiz.jpg

2009-01-09T13:05:10Z

PhilipV: New page: Is it just me or is that statue in the background the 'Siegessaule' in Berlin?--~~~~

Is it just me or is that statue in the background the 'Siegessaule' in Berlin?---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 08:05, 9 January 2009 (EST)

Hawaii

2009-01-09T12:55:27Z

PhilipV: we still are not sure about BO's birthplace.

[[Image:NOAA_Hawaii_7.gif‎ |right|thumb|350px|Hawaiian Island Chain - from Southeast to Northwest.‎]]
'''Hawaii''' (Hawaiian: Hawai'i) is a part of the [[United States of America]]. It became a state on August 21st, 1959, and was the fiftieth (and last) state to enter into the union. In 2005 it had a population of 1,275,194 on 6,423 square miles of land. <ref>http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0108204.html</ref> It is located in the Pacific Ocean west and south of the mainland of the United States. The main Hawaiian islands are (east to west) Hawai'i (or 'the Big Island'), [[Maui]], Kaho'olawe, [[Molokai|Moloka'i]], [[Lanai|Lana'i]], [[Oahu|O'ahu]], [[Kauai|Kaua'i]] and Ni'ihau. The state capital, [[Honolulu]], and [[Pearl Harbor]] are both on the island of Oahu. The origin of the name ''Hawai'i'' is obscure. It could be derived from the Polynesian ''Owhyii'', 'Place of the Gods', or from ''Hawaiki'' (the former name of Raiatea in the [[Society Islands]]), or may have the meaning 'Homeland'.<ref>Concise Dictionary of World Place-Names (Oxford 2005) p210</ref>

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|name=Hawaii
|flag=Hawaii_State_Flag.gif
|motto="Ua mau ke ea o ka aina I ka pono" (The life of the land is perpetuated in righteousness)
|nick=The Aloha State
|capital=Honolulu
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|governor=Linda Lingle
|gparty=Republican
|senator1=Daniel Inouye
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|date=August 21, 1959 (50th)
}}
==Ancient History==
The original settlers of the Hawaiian island chain were Polynesian explorers who voyaged in ocean-worthy canoes from the southern Pacific (primarily the Marquesas), arriving in the islands circa 300-600 AD. In addition to their Polynesian culture and traditions, these earliest settlers brought with them an array of plants and animals. A second wave of migrations between the Hawaiian and Society Islands took place circa 1000-1300 AD, and this wave brought an infusion of Tahitian religious forms and social structure to the inhabitants of Hawaii. This period ended around 1300 AD, after which the culture of the Hawaiians developed a distinct identity.<ref>http://www.hawaiihistory.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ig.page&CategoryID=311</ref>

The population of ancient Hawaii grew sharply between 900 and 1300 AD, then stabilized at a lower rate as the inhabitants lived in balance with the resources of the islands. At the time James Cook arrived in 1778, the population of the islands was estimated to be around 300,000. <ref>http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/index.html</ref>

==The 18th Century==

===Unification under a Single King===
In the middle of the 18th century, the Hawaiian islands were governed as a collection of separate kingdoms. As the century came to a close, a dynamic figure named Kamehameha began a campaign to unify all of the islands under his rule as sole monarch. This was primarily accomplished though brutal conquest, although some of his opponents capitulated peacefully as his army's reputation grew. Kamehameha's conquest of the islands was complete by 1795, and the westerners who arrived from that time and afterward dealt with a single authority for the entire chain. <ref>http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/index.html</ref>

===Discovery by the West===
European discovery of the Hawaiian Islands was by Captain [[James Cook]] in 1778. As the location of the islands appeared on navigation charts they were visited by ships of various nations, including the British, Americans, French and Russians, since the location was ideal for providing safe anchorage and the replenishment of provisions in the mid-Pacific. The islands were also strategically located in the migration path of humpback whales, which were among the most sought-after by a thriving whaling industry in the early 1800's. Unfortunately, contact with westerners brought with it western diseases that decimated the indigenous population, which plummeted from approximately 300,000 in 1778 to 56,900 in 1872.<ref>http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/index.html</ref>

==The 19th Century==

===The End of ''Kapu''===
With the death of Kamehameha and ascension of his son Liholiho to the throne, significant changes began to take place. The most profound was the decision by Liholiho to disregard the sanctity of the ''kapu'' system of rules and customs that had been the backbone of Hawaiian society. In gradual steps, he allowed changes to customs like allowing men and women to eat together at feasts for the first time, and as objections to these changes were dropped or put down they continued until temples to the ancient gods were dismantled and idols burned. The abandonment of ''kapu'' left a void in the social structure of Hawaii just as the first Christian missionaries began to arrive. <ref>http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/index.html</ref>

===The Missionary Influence===
Early visitors from Europe introduced Christianity to the native Hawaiians, but these were not part of any organized missionary campaign. A Hawaiian from Kona, Henry Opukaha'ia, is acknowleged to be the first native Christian convert, and in 1808 he traveled to New England. He spent the next 10 years in Connecticut seeking to inspire and organize missionaries to accompany him back to the islands, but he died in New England in 1818. His work inspired others, though, and in 1819 the first missionaries (Presbyterians, Congregationalists and Dutch Reformists) were sent by American Board of Commissioners for Foreign Missions to the islands. "You are to aim at nothing short of covering those islands with fruitful fields and pleasant dwellings, and schools and churches; of raising up the people to an elevated state of Christian civilization" was the parting instruction from Dr. Samuel Worchester, secretary of the commissioners.<ref>http://archives.starbulletin.com/1999/06/16/millennium/index.html</ref>

The missionaries were not initially trusted by Liholiho, who instead placed them under probation. A missionary headquarters was established in Honolulu, and one of the first priorities was to develop a consistent written form for the Hawaiian language, which was only spoken up to that time. They also set up the first island printing press, and as other companies of missionaries arrived, they influenced changes in Hawaiian society as well as developments in education, organization of government and entrepreneurism. 0<ref>http://www.hawaiihistory.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ig.page&PageID=277&returntoname=Short%20Stories&returntopageid=460</ref>

Unfortunately, not all of these changes were for the long-term benefit of the native Hawaiian culture. One particular example was the disapproval and suppression of the ''hula'' by the missionaries. The ''hula'' is a deep and complex form of recording legends, history and insights about man and nature into patterns of movements that to the uneducated look like elaborate dances. The Hawaiians had no written version of their language prior to the arrival of the missionaries, and the rich collection of hulas passed from generation to generation was their primary form of recorded culture. The Protestant missionaries arriving in 1820 believed that the ''hula'' dangerously promoted old heathen beliefs and celebrated physical enjoyment. With this misunderstanding, they strongly pressured the Hawaiians who had converted to Christianity, including members of the monarchy, to eradicate ''hula''. Their efforts drove the practice underground, and while much of Hawaii's ancient history and heritage was lost as a result, public appreciation and study of the true ''hula'' (as opposed to dances for tourists) was reawakened in the 1970's, studied, and documented for posterity.<ref>http://www.hawaiihistory.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=ig.page&CategoryID=253</ref>

===Westernization===

The Hawaiian Kingdom flourished throughout the 19th century with several monarchs. It became increasingly westernized. This modernization of Hawaiian society eventually lead to the Hawaiian Revolution of 1893 when Hawaiian citizens (many of western descent) overthrew Queen Liliuokalani in response to her attempt to unilaterally impose a new constitution increasing her power. The revolution was successful with the loss of no life. The new Hawaiian government was set up as the Republic of Hawaii and it was recognized by every nation which had recognized the Hawaiian Kingdom.

During the Hawaiian Revolution, American troops landed to protect American life and property. They did not engage in fighting and did not occupy any government buildings. However, this action has lead many historical revisionists to falsely claim that the United States invaded Hawaii and deposed the Queen. American President [[Grover Cleveland]] was opposed to the Hawaiian Revolution and he sent [[James Henderson Blount]] to Hawaii to discredit it. Blount failed to swear in witnesses, refused to speak to many involved in the revolution, and then issued a report blaming the whole matter on an elaborate American plot to invade Hawaii. His Blount Report is cited as evidence of an illegal takeover of Hawaii by Hawaiian separatists to this day.

An investigation of the Hawaiian Revolution was conducted by [[Congress]] in 1894. It was bipartisan, swore in witnesses, and interviewed many that James Blount refused to talk with. Congress issued the Morgan Report which refuted the Blount Report and cleared the United States of any wrong doing during the Hawaiian Revolution.

The Hawaiian Republic agreed to join the United States as a territory in 1898. Congress annexed Hawaii via a Joint Resolution of Congress which was the same way [[Texas]] was annexed by the USA. Some Hawaiian separatists claim that a joint resolution of Congress is not valid to annex another nation. If this were true, Texas then is not legally American. As it clearly is, the argument is easily refuted.

==The 20th Century==
Hawaii was attacked by Japan on December 7, 1941 at [[Pearl Harbor]]. This resulted in the death of many Americans and brought the United States into [[World War Two]]. The people of Hawaii were very helpful in the eventual American victory.

Hawaiian citizens voted overwhelmingly (93%) to join the USA. It was accordingly added as the 50th American state in 1959. The [[United Nations]] recognized this as legal under international law by removing Hawaii from the list of non self-governing territories.

==Politics==
Since statehood, Hawaii has been dominated by the [[Democratic Party]]. [[John Kerry]] carried the state electoral vote in 2004 and the entire Congressional delegation is made up of Democrats. The [[Republican Party]] has made some recent progress with the current governor being a Republican. There is also a small separatist movement on the islands which wishes to have Hawaii secede from the USA and form an independent Hawaiian nation. Proponents of this course argue that Hawaii was illegally annexed and should be "restored" to nationhood. The overwhelmingly majority of Hawaiians do not support this view and the separatists remain a small but vocal minority.

Hawaii offers a limited number of benefits to same sex couples, but has stopped short of offering [[domestic partnerships]].

President-elect [[Barack Obama]] (alledgedly) was born in Hawaii.

==Religion==
Church Membership (as of 1999)<ref>http://www.hawaii.gov/dbedt/info/economic/databook/db2000/ The State of Hawaii Data Book 2000</ref>

*[[Roman Catholic]]: 17.7%
*[[Buddhist]]: 8.3%
*[[Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]] (Mormon): 4.6%
*[[United Church of Christ]]: 1.6%
*[[Southern Baptist]]: 1.4%
*[[Assemblies of God]]: 0.9%
*[[Judaism]]: 0.8%
*[[Episcopal]]: 0.8%
*[[United Methodist]]: 0.6%
*[[Lutheran]]: 0.5%

==Tourism==
Hawaii is the United States' only state in the tropics (i.e., south of the [[Tropic of Cancer]]) and a popular tourist attraction known for its beaches, surf, volcanoes, and [[Polynesia]]n history.

==Trivia==
Hawaii is the only U.S. state which grows [[coffee]] or [[pineapple]]s.

If measured from the base to its peak Hawaii's Mauna Kea is the tallest mountain in the world at 10,203 m (compared to [[Mount Everest]] which is 8,848 m above sea level)<ref>http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/BeataUnke.shtml</ref>.

==See also==
* [[Aloha]]
* [[Kauai]]
* [[Lanai]]
* [[Maui]]
* [[Molokai]]
* [[Oahu]]
* [[Kona Hawaii Temple]]
* [[Laie Hawaii Temple]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==Sources==

*[http://www.mythichawaii.com An excellent look at how the tiki gods worshiping Hawaiians behaved before conversion to Christianity. Including their savage warriors weapons ''Mythic Hawaii'']
*[http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/15000.html Hawaii Quick Facts from the US Census Bureau]
*[http://www.historyofnations.net/oceania/hawaii.html History of Hawaii]
*[http://www.hawaiihistory.org/ Hawaiihistory.org - Contains an excellent history of Hawaii in timeline format]
*[http://morganreport.org/ Morgan Report]


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Cable News Network

2009-01-09T01:05:54Z

PhilipV:

[[Image:LOGOCNN.png|right|thumb]]
The '''Cable News Network''' (CNN) was the first 24-hour cable [[news]] channel in the [[United States]]. First started in 1980 by [[liberal]] [[Ted Turner]], it is a division of the Turner Broadcasting System, which is owned by AOL Time Warner.

From its origin as a cable-only service, CNN now broadcasts worldwide by satellite, with programs presented from studios in several countries in addition to their headquarters in Atlanta. Some regions receive locally produced opt-outs (under the name "CNN International"), and there are also broadcasts in [[Spanish]], [[German]], [[Italian]], [[Croatian]],[[Japanese]], [[Turkish]] and [[Gaelic]].

==History==

CNN is owned by [[leftist]] media mogul Ted Turner and made its debut in 1980 as the first US 24-hour news network. <ref>http://www.turner.com/about/corporate_history.html</ref>
During its early years it struggled to achieve the success and credibility of older news agencies, such as the [[BBC]]. However it achieved a great deal of recognition during its coverage of the first Gulf War during which it was the only news agency reporting during the initial night of the war. These events led to a movie, ''Live from Baghdad'', which portrays the events. <ref>http://writing.upenn.edu/~afilreis/Coursetexts/gulf-war-arnett.html</ref>

== Allegations of Bias ==

It has been accused by non-politicized and conservative media critics of having a liberal slant to its reporting.<ref>http://newsbusters.org/taxonomy/term/13</ref>

== News Anchors ==
*[[Larry King]]
*[[Anderson Cooper]]
*[[Paula Zahn]]
*[[Campbell Brown]]
*[[Lou Dobbs]]

== References ==
<references/>

==External Links==
*[http://www.cnn.com/ CNN official site]
*[http://bloggasm.com/cnn-creates-blogging-policy-encourages-employees-to-engage-in-sockpuppetry CNN creates blogging policy, encourages employees to engage in sockpuppetry], Simon Owens, ''Bloggasm'', August 2, 2008

[[Category:Television]]
[[Category: Articles needing expansion]]

Bible Versions

2009-01-04T05:10:52Z

PhilipV: New page: There are several versions of the Holy Bible currently in print. Examples include: *The Living Bible *The Good News Bible *The Contemporary English Edition *The "God's Word" Bible *The...

There are several versions of the Holy Bible currently in print.

Examples include:

*The Living Bible
*The Good News Bible
*The Contemporary English Edition
*The "God's Word" Bible
*The 21st Century King James Bible
*The American Standard version

Wikiproject:News/Wanted page

2009-01-04T04:57:49Z

PhilipV:

Some of the news articles posted on the Main page need new articles created on Conservapedia. If you create a wanted page for a news article, it will be wikilinked on the Main Page.

==Contributions==
This table is a count of ''completed'' wanted pages per contributor. This table lists only those contributors with 10 or more pages completed and is updated when the completed pages are archived. 
For the full list, see the [[Wikiproject:News/Wanted page/Completed|Wanted page - Completed archives]] page. 

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| [[User:Markr|Markr]]
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==Wanted Pages for "In the news" section - To be created==

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Holy Place

2009-01-04T04:56:22Z

PhilipV: New page: A Holy place is a place of religious significance, a place of pilgrimage or a place of worship. ==Examples== =Christianity= *The church of the Nativity - Bethlehem *St. Mary's Well - Naz...

A Holy place is a place of religious significance, a place of pilgrimage or a place of worship.

==Examples==
=Christianity=
*The church of the Nativity - Bethlehem
*St. Mary's Well - Nazareth

=Judaism=
*The Wailing Wall - Jerusalem

=Islam=
*Makkah
*The Dome of the Rock - Jerusalem

=Buddhism=
*Bodh Gaya - The Place of Enlightenment

Tyndale Bible

2009-01-04T04:45:33Z

PhilipV: New page: William Tyndale's Bible was the very first English language Bible to appear in print. It was first published in the year 1525. The Tyndale Bible came under heavy critisism from many cathol...

William Tyndale's Bible was the very first English language Bible to appear in print. It was first published in the year 1525. The Tyndale Bible came under heavy critisism from many catholic churches who were unhappy with the idea of a Bible which was written in a language other than latin.

Many people in the christian world could not read latin, and priests had to translate the bible to their congregations. However, Tyndale decided that every person in christendom should have a bible written in their own language, so that they could read the bible themselves.

However a non-latin Bible was illegal due to church law, and Tyndale's Bible was banned, and Tyndale himself burned at the stake.

'''References'''

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http://www.bl.uk/learning/langlit/changlang/writtenword/tyndale/tyndalelang.html

Debate:Is the American Occupation of the Hawaiian Islands justified?

2009-01-02T02:52:38Z

PhilipV: /* Affirmative Opinions */

==Affirmative Opinions==

What definies the right of one country to a portion of land? While I'm prepared to change my mind-- I am rather uneducated on the subject of hawaii-- I must take the following position: America was wrong to annex Hawaii initialy, but at this point there is nothing we can do to ammend the wrong; we can't exactly kick them out of the union just because we never should have taken over way back in 1898. We have inherited a Hawaii that our great-grandfathers wrongfully annexed. Even so, Hawaian culture has been integrated with American culture; Americans and Hawaians have become American alike; at this point our occupation of hawaii ''is'' justified. That is to say: Our occupation of Hawaii, though wrongfully attained by our forebears, is now in the best intrest of all concerned.

--[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 23:21, 30 January 2007 (EST)

:I kinda intended for this to be a one-time forum-type-thing. Like everyone gives their opinion once. -[[User:Working for Him|Working for Him]] 22:36, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Great! I will assuredly not give mine again.

--[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 19:23, 5 February 2007 (EST)

While I lean "yes" ([[Barack Obama]] being to me a sufficient justification for annexing Hawaii), it's fun to think about [[alternate histories]] of the late 19th century in which Hawaii is never added to the U. S., such as suggested in the article on the [[Confederate States of America]]. Even had it not been, Hawaii would surely have remained a gathering spot and melting pot for people from all over the world, as it was in 1961. I've been there -- go now, while you still don't need a passport! I'm also surprised to see that this debate appears to have fizzled out four months ago, before I had even heard of Conservapedia. -- [[User talk:Amyz|Amyz]] 18:20, June 1, 2007

I would have to agree with Ben on the point that while perhaps deciding that the original 'occupation' of Hawaii may have been incorrect, it borders on unconstitutional to all of a sudden tell everyone born there as American citizens that they're not in the club anymore and to go back to their monarchy. It would be difficult for them to reestablish a stable governemtn after being apart of the union for a hundred years [[User:Katieb|KTB]] 19:47, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

I say Yes . What would Hawaii be if we had not invaded/stolen/taken the islands? The IJN would have used Hawaii as a staging point for raids on the American mainland - the people of Hawaii would not have access to the benefits of American life, and even if we had not taken Hawaii, someone else would have taken Hawaii---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 21:52, 1 January 2009 (EST)

==Negative Opinions==

'''NO!!!''' We never had any right to Hawaii the Americans were there as missionaries bbut their children turned into greedy businessmen who stole Hawaii from under Queen Liliuokalani's nose! -[[User:Working for Him|Working for Him]] 22:49, 30 January 2007 (EST)

NO - just as the occupation of North America by a bunch of European immigrants and the bloody suppression of the aboriginal inhabitants cannot be justified!

Good point! Every point above could be used on every state in the union! [[User:Grinder|Grinder]] 21:06, 14 March 2007 (EDT)

No, but just as we're not going to give back North America, we're not giving back the islands. That's manifest destiny for ya. [[User:Czolgolz|Czolgolz]] 10:30, 10 April 2007 (EDT)

==Yes And No==
Although the US did technically steal Hawai'i from the Hawaiians, we have not oppressed them or their culture, I don't see any real harm. Also due to the US federalistic government, as a state they maintain a high degree of self-government and security from the federal government. And, with time there was a good chance they would have joined the Union anyways. --[[User:Snotbowst|Snotbowst]] 14:29, 17 May 2008 (EDT)

[[category:debate]]

Tom Harkin

2009-01-02T02:14:23Z

PhilipV:

== Early Life ==

Senator Tom Harkin was born in the small village of Cumming, Iowa on November 19th 1939. His Father was a coal miner and his mother a Slovenian immigrant. He spent all of his early life in Cumming with his 5 siblings and his parents.

Senator Harkin Was educated locally and After Graduating from Des Moines High School, He went on to Iowa State University and graduated from there in 1962. He Joined the Navy in the same year, and served until 1967. Senator Harkin was stationed in [[Japan]] where he undertook the task of ferrying damaged aircraft from Vietnam to Japan. He was also stationed in Cuba for a time, running reconaisance missions over communist Cuba.

== Political Career ==

In 1972 he graduated from Law school, returned to Iowa, and ran against the Republican congressman, William Scherle. Harkin was defeated however, and he practiced law for the next 2 years.Harkin was elected to the House of Representatives in 1974 and served there until being elected to the US senate in 1984.

Harkin ran for president in 1992 but he lost the Democratic party nomination to [[Bill Clinton]]. Harkin is known to be an avid supporter of legalized abortion.

== Family ==
Senator Harkin married Minnesota native Ruth Raduenz in 1968 and has two daughters: Amy, born in 1976, and Jenny, born in 1981.

==References==
http://harkin.senate.gov/about/
[[Category:Politicians]]

Talk:Mystery:Why Do Non-Conservatives Exist?

2009-01-01T15:18:29Z

PhilipV: /* My political alignment */

==Mind Altering Drugs==
The suggestion may (or may not) have been made with parodic intent, but I had been thinking along similar lines. It is well-known that use of drugs - 'even' marijuana, which Liberals pretend is less harmful than candy - causes a range of psychiatric illnesses (which may also be hereditary); and I think that maybe between us we could come up with an acceptable form of words. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 15:50, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:I agree: that's why in my reversion I suggested that the original contributor expand to put the claim on a firmer foundation. How about, "use of mind-altering drugs, which encourages one to become a liberal to reconcile the cognitive dissonance, or dulls mental acuity resulting in mindless conformity," or something like that.-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 15:52, 13 December 2008 (EST)
::That sounds good to me. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 15:54, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:::Thanks! Done.-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 15:56, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Lots of insights in this list. I wonder if it would be possible to estimate percentages for each reason.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 15:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:Thanks! I expect media/school bias, along with [[liberal friendship]] & mindless rebellion, are some of the biggest contributors.-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 16:09, 13 December 2008 (EST)
::::Any estimates would probably be just a guess so I suggest a data gathering exercise. If someone could set up a sub-page with a list of the options then we could all think of the non-conservatives that we are familiar with at school, work or in some cases even at home. Then we could just give one point for the reason that we would estimate for each person. I think the demographic diversity here should be sufficient to build a fairly accurate picture. This sort of thing wouldn't be allowed at WP with their dogmatic No Original Research mantra. So it highlights a real difference between us and WP in that we can generate new insights through a group effort as it would give almost everyone the opportunity to contribute. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 16:55, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:::::Applying clear numbers to it is probably impossible, since many of the causes effect any individual. Everyone is subject to the bias in media, academia, etc..., while only some have the poor thinking skills, innate naivete, and simply, pure delusion that creates the radicals members of the far left whom we all love and tolerate. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 17:00, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:: Probably so. But note that even the most powerful bias requires something extra to close the mind as well. Of course aging seems to have an effect of closing the mind automatically for many.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 16:12, 13 December 2008 (EST)

Mental endowments are certainly a key reason (see ''[[The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness]]''). A certain demographic is inherently irrational and childlike. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 16:14, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:I saw that on WND: I'll try to find time to read it over the break.[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 16:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)

== Organization ==

I've tried to compact and organize it, to make it easier to grasp. Please improve. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 16:27, 13 December 2008 (EST)

: Great point. I think we need prioritized sections, like "Main Reasons", separated from "Other Reasons." Feel free to improve.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 16:35, 13 December 2008 (EST)
::Great job Rod!-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 18:01, 13 December 2008 (EST)

==Wow==
Okay, if this isn't a parody, then it's just scary. It makes multiple errors in it's assumptions, characterizes liberals as "weak-minded" or just unthinkingly "rebellious", and heavily insists that being Non-conservative is "wrong", and that if you're not a conservative, then you are brainwashed simple thinker. Does the author realize that there are opposing views to conservatism that are not liberal? Does he realize that some liberals are quite intelligent, and have reasons for being liberal that are based on logic? I like to think of myself as a moderate conservative, but the reasons highlighted in this list serve only to make me ashamed of that. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 16:37, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:Shawn, the tenor and content of your rant (and it is 'its assumptions', not 'it's assumptions') lead us to suppose that you are very far from being a Conservative of any hue. If you held sincere beliefs, you would not be ashamed of them because of third party actions. And if you were one of those mythical 'quite intelligent liberals', you might be capable of opening up your mind to new ideas, rather than rejecting them out of hand. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:44, 13 December 2008 (EST)

::Right, Bugler. ShawnJ's talk lack substance. But perhaps it can be analyzed: why isn't ShawnJ a real conservative? His reference to liberals being "quite intelligent" suggests he aspires to be considered likewise. I sense the public school rationales at work here: the "A+" went to the liberal positions, and either ShawnJ received a few himself and cannot let go of the illusion, or he's a wannabee.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 18:57, 13 December 2008 (EST)

::: Bugler, I consider myself a conservative because I was raised in a strictly conservative family, and while I don't agree with all of their positions, I still do agree with many of them. Hence me considering myself a "moderate" conservative. My whole issue with this article is it reads as an attack on non-conservatives, in no small way calling them worse people. It is a complete error to refer to all liberals as stupid, or unthinking, or ignorantly rebellious. It's the same flaw that racism and all forms of bigotry share. Trying to apply absolutes to beliefs and personalities simply doesn't hold up under closer inspection. Perhaps if you were secure in your conservative beliefs, you might be capable of opening up your mind to new ideas, instead of rejecting them because they come from someone with different political views than your own. Aschlafly, I addressed most of your argument in my reply to Bugler, but for the record, most of my "A+"s went to Math and Physics. It's really hard to put a political spin on calculations and numbers. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 19:52, 13 December 2008 (EST)

:::: ShawnJ, take a look at our new statistical portion of the entry. Which category do you fall into, or should there be a new one? For example, did you hear about conservative principles and the logic behind them only ''after'' you made up your mind? Do you have liberal friends whose acceptance you value?

:::: If you got "A+"s in school, regardless of subject, then your self-esteem is likely tied to approval by the very liberal education establishment. You'd have to feel embarrassment if your teachers learned that you might become a real conservative. And your self-esteem would not permit that, right?--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:37, 13 December 2008 (EST)
::::::Wait a sec--you're saying that people who get "A"s in school tend to be liberal? So would that make the converse true--that conservatives would tend to get low(er) grades? That can't be right...--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 22:18, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:::::::Ooooh, SO close, but no cigar! The arguments is that liberals know that professors are liberal - see [[professor values]] - and conform their behavior & values deliberately to the professor's to get better grades not for substance, but because they agree with the professor's worldview. It's not that they're smart; they're just playing the game.-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 22:22, 13 December 2008 (EST)

:::: I gotta say, my personal experiences negate any of the categories in the statistical portion. I simply realized, over time, that conservatism didn't hold all the answers. That, surprise, there was no perfect school of political thought. All this talk about the "liberal education system" is funny to me, because, honestly, I couldn't give you the political leanings of ANY of my teachers/professors. Who they did/would vote for, their stances on gun control, abortion, homosexuality, government, it simply never came up. I'm sure there was some rule on the books preventing teachers from discussing such things, and they were followed. The military upbringing put me in many different schools in various parts of the country, domestic and abroad, and not a single one broke that rule. Granted, I never sought out my instructors political beliefs, but the never volunteered them either. They were there do their job of teaching me, and I was there to do mine of learning.

:::: As far as my friends go, they fall much into the same boat. I hang out with them to relax after work. Watch a game, play a game, maybe throw a party, whatever, not to have heated arguments that won't resolve anything.[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 23:36, 13 December 2008 (EST)

::::: ShawnJ, you probably vote and so do your friends and teachers; you adhere to certain values and so do your friends and teachers; and you make statements of a political nature just as your friends and teachers do. I'm sure you've taken courses in economics, history, government, English literature, and science, and it is impossible to teach or learn those topics without forming opinions that affirm or deny conservative principles. Perhaps you were unaware of it at the time, but with an open mind you can reconsider it now.

::::: Your teachers voted overwhelmingly for [[Barack Obama]], to take just one example, and they taught you things consistent with their view. I'd guess that 50% of what you learned in school was false, and those of who care about the truth embark on a path to revisit and reconsider all of it. I encourage you to join us.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 10:43, 14 December 2008 (EST)

== Ohkay......... ==

Erm, i understand the bit about all those TV shows and the media in general, but mind-altering drugs?, isn't that just taking it a bit too far (i mean in terms of accusations, how the heck would Obama put drugs in everyone's cookies, i mean, he's busy enough as it is dealing with conniving madmen like the governor from Illinois with the weird name (apologies for the long sentence)--[[User:PhilipV|[[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]]]] 17:14, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:Who is talking about Obama here? The effects of drug abuse are well known. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:33, 13 December 2008 (EST)
::I think he meant Blagovejich :)-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 18:00, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:::PhilipV's comments are bizarre. But why is PhilipV a non-conservative, do you think?--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 18:59, 13 December 2008 (EST)
::::Sounds like he's trying to apologize for drug use.-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 19:02, 13 December 2008 (EST)

::::: Alex, I find that accusation offensive! ----[[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 12:28, 14 December 2008 (EST)

::::::Come to think of it, how on earth is that an apology for drug use/abuse/misuse? if i had used such works of the devil (which they are) i would probably have voted Democrat so that i could have continued using illegal drugs - but no - i voted republcan this year and my political compass test says that im a right-wing authoritarian.----[[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 12:28, 14 December 2008 (EST)

== Seriously? ==
Hmmm... in this article I see Liberal Style 21. Why must we try to make liberals seem less intelligent than conservatives? If the positions of Conservatism are much more logical than the positions of Liberalism... shouldn't that be self-evident? Why do we need to bash down liberals, calling them sheeple? And since when were issues like race and poverty "simple"? [[User:DM|DM]] 17:44, 13 December 2008 (EST)

: You seem to be bothered by the intelligence issue also, like another above. Please see my comments above.

: Race and poverty are easier-to-grasp issues than globalism. There's no denying that.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 19:05, 13 December 2008 (EST)

:: Let us tackle race, firstly. What race is President Obama? Black? No, he's not black. He's African-American. Now what's the difference? I would consider someone who is African-American to be an American who immigrated from Africa or is of African descent. Now who is Black? Black people are the descendants of Africans who were kidnapped and brought to the New World to work as slaves. Now, Barack Obama is descended from an African man. Thus, he can be called African-American. But he is not a descendant of Africans who were slaves, thus he is not Black. Is this just a difference of their places in history? No. Black people are of West African descent exclusively. They didn't sail to the other side of Africa to kidnap slaves. President Obama is of East African descent. Hmmm.

:: So is race a simple issue? [[User:DM|DM]] 23:56, 13 December 2008 (EST)

::: It is extremely simple to millions of non-conservatives, who do not care one bit about the distinctions you attempt to draw in your comments.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 10:46, 14 December 2008 (EST)

::::Race CAN be complex. I don't think we're arguing that it's not. However, globalism & the global economy, as well as the complex relationship between taxes & economic growth, can be harder to grasp for some liberals. That's all we're arguing (please correct me if I'm wrong Aschlafly).-[[User:AlexanderM|AlexanderM]] 10:56, 14 December 2008 (EST)

== Morally depraved nature ==

Why do sinners sin? It is because they have a sinful nature. I think this mystery article totally lacks a greater focus on man's sinful nature apart from God and also neglects to mention the grace and redemptive work of Christ and the Holy Spirit. I think this is rather odd for a encyclopedia which [http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Articles_mentioning_Conservapedia prominently features an article by the Christian Post through its main page which states that Conservapedia favors Christianity]. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 22:16, 13 December 2008 (EST)

== Statistical Analysis ==
Ok I know this is a mystery and not an encyclopedic article but could we please get one or two cites for the statistical analysis section since it would be very interesting to read the studies that that was based off of --[[User:WillB|WillB]] 22:47, 13 December 2008 (EST)
:good wuestion WillB! how were these statistics compiled?
:Agreed. It definitely does not look good at its present state where these numbers have nothing to back them up -- even if listed as estimates. --[[User:SJames|SJames]] 18:20, 14 December 2008 (EST)

:: It's an estimate, and a work in progress. Do you doubt its truth? Perhaps you're simply saying that a liberal newspaper would not admit this, and you'd be right about that. But the truth is not constrained by what liberals will admit.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 18:29, 14 December 2008 (EST)

::: I was just stating my curiosity -- one that I believe most readers share -- as to how those numbers came about. As to its validity, I have no way of knowing but based on my own encounters, those numbers look about right for the most part, except for one group that I believe is missing on that list. I know quite a few non-conservatives who, with an open mind, simply weighed conservative values against non-conservative values and decided that they identified more with non-conservative values. Their values usually gravitate towards "freedom of choice", as defined by themselves. (Obviously we disagree with it)
Examples include: Freedom to choose abortion, freedom to choose religion, freedom to choose a "lifestyle", etc. You might say that these people fall into the ''10%: refuse to rise above their personal temptations, often self-destructive, and refuse to accept conservative values that conflict with their personal desires like irresponsible sexual promiscuity'' -- and that's true for some, but not for others. Some non-conservatives aren't interested in engaging in sexual promiscuity, dwelling in person temptation and self-destruction; they simply believe that it should be up to each individual if they choose to do so. --[[User:SJames|SJames]] 21:42, 14 December 2008 (EST)

:::As I said it would be interesting to read how these estimates were arrived at. I have no idea what the percentages should be and would love to see the data but I know that since this is an essay that a cite is not required and my not be possible to get in any case. --[[User:WillB|WillB]] 18:41, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Aschlafly asks "Do you doubt its [the statistics'] truth?" To which I respond, yes, I do doubt it, but more importantly I doubt very much that these "statistics" should be referred to as such. I, further, dispute WillB's claim that because this is an essay Aschlafly is not obligated to provide citations or data to support his claim.

My basic issue here is that absent any sort of supporting documentation these "estimates" are nothing of the sort and are, instead, simply guesses. A guess is not the same as a statistical estimate. To understand why, consider ASchlafly's first cited reason, "Did not hear about conservative principles...", which I will refer to as Claim A. Now, in theory Claim A is true of some portion of the population (A "population" being defined as the set of things we're interested in studying. In this case, for the sake of argument, we'll assume the population is American citizens or legal residents). This value is known as a population parameter and we will refer to it as "Mu", following the common statistical practice of referring to true population values with Greek symbols. Now, the difficulty is that the population is too large for us to assess as a whole. To deal with this, we take a sample of the population- for example, a random sample. Now, the composition of a true random sample is determined by its parent population. So, for example, if Claim A is true of 40% of the population, as ASchlafly asserts, then a true random sample will- in theory- contain the same proportion of persons for whom Claim A is true. The quantity in the sample for whom Claim A is true will be referred to as X-bar, a symbol used to refer to the arithmetic mean of a sample, and is not written in Greek as it refers to an estimate or "statistic" rather than to a true population parameter. So, if our random sample is perfect Mu should equal x-bar.

Now, this is true in theory, but in practice things get tricky. While a true random sample is the ideal, it is also the case that larger samples provide better estimates (i.e. more accurate values of x-bar) than smaller samples. Thus, it is almost always the case that Mu does not equal x-bar but rather is only approximately equal to x-bar. The relation between a particular value of x-bar and the value of Mu is determined using two things: the estimated [[standard deviation]] of a distribution of means and a [[confidence interval]]. The distribution of means is a mathematical construct that indicates how often we ought to see the x-bar of a sample of a given size, n, vary by a certain amount from the value of Mu. For our purposes we would estimate it using sample information by dividing the sample variance by n (i.e the sample size) and then taking the square root. We will refer to this as SDm (i.e. the standard deviation of the distribution of means). We would then use this value to construct a confidence interval. A confidence interval is a range of scores within which we are certain to a specific probability that we will find Mu. Put differently, it is like saying, "The true population value is x-bar plus or minus y amount, with a certainty of 95%." Confidence intervals are almost always included with point estimates (i.e. estimates of a specific value, such as x-bar) because statisticians are well aware that x-bar almost never precisely equals Mu. We would construct our confidence interval by taking x-bar and then adding, and subtracting, the value of the product of SDm and a t-value corresponding to our desired level of certainty and degrees of freedom (i.e. x-bar + (SDm)(t-value) and x-bar - (SDm)(t-value)). A t-value is a score taken from the t-distribution, which is an approximation of the [[normal distribution]] used when a smaller sample size produces non-normality. The t-distribution asymptotically approximates the normal distribution, so with large sample sizes you can essentially use the normal distribution instead. The degrees of freedom in this case are equal to n-1. So, if we drew a sample of 101 people and wanted to be 99% sure that our confidence interval included Mu then we would use a t-value of 2.626. So, in summation, using the sample information we can compute not simply an estimate of the value of Mu (i.e. x-bar) but also an interval within which we can be confident (e.g. 99% certain) that the true value of Mu lies. Obviously, the smaller the confidence interval, the more exact our estimate of Mu is likely to be and, if we assume that the sample x-bar is derived from is a perfect random sample, then the quality of our estimate is based entirely on sample size. Further, the relationships discussed above are well-documented empirically and have been proven out by mathematicians and statisticians since about the turn of the century.

The reality, of course, is that samples are rarely if ever perfectly random. Sampling error inevitably creeps in and, as a result, confidence intervals often have to be adjusted for this added error. If we cannot determine the extent of the sampling error's influence on our statistics then there is no mathematical adjustment possible and we, instead, have to assess the robustness of our estimates against the probable size of the error. And what all this means is that something is a statistical estimate rather than an offhand guess precisely because it includes not only a point estimate (e.g. 40% of the population subscribes to Claim A) but also a confidence interval around that point estimate (e.g. plus or minus 10%). Moreover, the point estimates as well as the confidence intervals are produced using a set of established procedures that are rooted in the mathematical characteristics of both population/sample relationships and the estimators (i.e. the computations used to produce the point estimates). Given that this is the case, point estimates are almost always provided with confidence intervals or standard errors and, additionally, information must be provided in order to allow others to assess the likely accuracy of the estimates.

ASchlafly has provided a set of point estimates generated in an unknown manner from unknown data. He has included no confidence intervals and no indication of the degree of accuracy in these estimates. As a result they are not statistical estimates and in no way should be referred to as the product of "statistical analysis". They are, to the contrary, nothing more or less than offhand guesses and should be referred to as such. On the other hand, if ASchlafly has some basis for these point estimates he should indicate where the data derive from and provide- at a bare minimum- the confidence intervals around these estimates as well as an outline indicating how he produced those intervals.

The point of statistics is not simply to compute an answer (e.g. a point estimate) but to produce along with it an estimate of the degree or error contained in that estimate. No human, after all, is perfect and it is in the nature of statistics to honestly quantify that imperfection. Absent confidence intervals or standard errors, and some understanding of how the data were gathered the appropriate response to the question "Do you doubt its truth" from anyone who is marginally competent in statistics must be "yes." Moreover, if ASchlafly wishes to label these assertions as "statistical estimates" then it is his responsibility to justify them in the manner accepted by statisticians. Otherwise, they should be (correctly) labeled as guesses.

Understand, the substance of my objection has nothing to do with whether or not ASchlafly's claims are correct but, rather, with the appropriateness of their presentation and treatment. -Drek
:Any reasonable argument should be capable of being put in two or three concise paragraphs, Drek. Your lengthy and confused screed doesn't add any light to this matter, I'm afraid. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:07, 16 December 2008 (EST)
::No sweat: ASchlafly's "statistics" are not statistics but guesses. He can demonstrate to the contrary by providing adequate citations to his data source as well as indicating the techniques used to generate the point estimates as well as confidence intervals and/or standard errors. Until he does so, referring to his guesses as "statistical analysis" is, at best, an exaggeration. Leaving this essay as-is saps credibility from both Conservapedia generally and ASchlafly particularly. See the above "confused screed" for a detailed explanation of my concerns. It's good to be succinct, but if Conservapedia is meant as an educational resource- and the criticism of Wikipedia for not offering courses lends support to that notion- then it's even better to be sufficiently thorough for students to follow the dispute. Or, as Beatrice Wright puts it, "You must learn to write in such a way that it will be as easy as possible for your critics to know why they disagree with you." -Drek
:::Andrew Schlafly is a qualified and experienced statistician and I'd certainly trust his judgement; not to sound suspicious, but in what way are you qualified to make such sweeping statements about this aricle? Also, you can be sure that his analyses and his estimates are based on a mature and thorough understanding of the issue being examined. Proper statistics is not just bare number crunching: it is an informed process that requires a full understanding of context. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:58, 16 December 2008 (EST)
::::"Proper statistics is not just bare number crunching: it is an informed process that requires a full understanding of context." Exactly right, and as you will notice, I am asking for a disclosure of that context so that we can all assess the accuracy and reliability of ASchlafly's claims for ourselves. If he is, indeed, a "...qualified and experienced statistician..." as you assert and his numbers are based on good data and appropriate techniques, this should be trivially easy. I also appreciate that you trust his judgment but statistics aren't about trusting someone's judgment, they are about verifiable results. Whether you or I view ASchlafly as a competent statistician has no bearing on the fact that he has not, at present, provided any justification whatsoever for the figures presented. Asking about my qualifications is something of an ad hominem since I have presented a lengthy explanation of why I question ASchlafly's claims. Rather than ask how I know what I do, why not respond substantively to my points? Regardless, while I have no expectation that you will take my word for it, I have been teaching statistics in an American four-year university for six years. -Drek
:::::I'm sorry you take it as an ad hom; I'm sure you appreciate that in such an environment a certain caution about people's claimed expertise is perhaps excusable. And I certainly accept your word as to your post and experience. But this is more than a pure, abstract, mathematical, dare I say professorial treatment of statistics. This is the application of statistics in the real world, down and dirty, relying also upon a knowledge of human nature, and in particular the nature of the Liberal-minded human, which is an additional layer of expertise which possibly you do not have - although, to be fair, working in a university (is it a public funded institution?) you would very likely be exposed daily to all kinds of Liberal nonsense. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 13:19, 16 December 2008 (EST)
::::::"This is the application of statistics in the real world, down and dirty, relying also upon a knowledge of human nature..." The thing is, Bugler, that statistics are an applied branch of mathematics. Their express purpose is to allow us to extract certainty from the vapor of possibility or, less metaphorically, to allow us to derive useful knowledge from messy research situations. Indeed, multivariate methods like regression are often used when the purity of experimental control is unattainable. Statistics can only provide this service reliably, however, when there is a full disclosure of how they are obtained. If the data are valid, the procedures appropriate, and the necessary mathematical assumptions not grievously violated, then the conclusions may be trusted to a particular degree of certainty. That ASchlafly's statistics are being used to asses the "...nature of the Liberal-minded human..." is effectively irrelevant. I do not ask that ASchlafly produce perfect statistics, but unless and until he provides a basis for judging his numbers, they cannot be regarded as anything more than his personal opinion. I appreciate your accepting my claimed expertise on my word, however. I have worked at both public and private universities and you will understand that the various strains of "nonsense" that I have encountered from a variety of ideological camps underlies my interest in seeing that statistical methods are not abused. If statistics are to be used to adjudicate between rival claims, then we must emphasize the need for them to be performed correctly. More simply, the extent to which I agree or disagree with the outcome of an analysis has no bearing on whether or not it was done correctly. And, as a side note, I have enjoyed our chat, but will probably be away from my computer for the next day or so for travel. If I do not respond to further comments, please understand it is not out of rudeness. -Drek
:::::::: of course. ''Bon voyage!'' [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 13:37, 16 December 2008 (EST)

:::::::: Drek, you really "take the cake" for the most long-winded liberal rant in recent memory here. The field of statistics does include estimates, and no one doubts that that there are percentages for each category listed. Are the estimates off slightly? Perhaps, but be specific about which one you think may be off.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 13:48, 16 December 2008 (EST)

::::::::: He's not claiming the statistics are wrong, he's saying that they are meaningless if the method of finding them is withheld. '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User:FernoKlump/petition|Mr. Schlafly! Look at this petition!]] 20:09, 16 December 2008 (EST)

:::::::::: Like any estimate, it's based on experience and logic. Instead of carping, please contribute.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:22, 16 December 2008 (EST)

I have a quick question for Aschlafly. I notice that the percentages in the Statistical analysis section add up to exactly 100. I find this a little confusing as I don't see any reason that the events listed should be mutually exclusive. Surely a person could be a liberal for many of the reasons given? [[User:AndyJM|AndyJM]] 11:43, 31 December 2008 (EST)

: They refer to the ''primary'' reasons.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 12:13, 31 December 2008 (EST)

:: Hmmm, I suppose that could work. However in this instance it could be very difficult to define what we mean by the primary reason. Typically in such analysis one could self-reporting, however I doubt that would work in this case :) [[User:AndyJM|AndyJM]] 12:37, 31 December 2008 (EST)

== My political alignment ==

Ahem, I am a conservative (just see some of my userboxes, and i am against abortion, and i support classroom prayer too) and another thing, my comments were somewhat misguided. When you said mind-altering drugs, i thought you were implying that Obama and company were putting drugs of some sort into everyone's food. ----[[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 12:24, 14 December 2008 (EST)
:But why on earth would you suspect any such thing was implied? Surely it is clear that it meant voluntarily-ingested illegal drugs? [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:30, 14 December 2008 (EST)

Evidently not - case closed.---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 10:18, 1 January 2009 (EST)

==question==
Are you honestly that arrogant that you wonder why people might not think exactly like you? sounds like mindless confomity to me.

==A further suggestion==
It struck me that denial of Conservative principles could be a result of incipient or presenting mental illness. Just as it has been widely demonstrated that Liberal beliefs can lead to psychiatric conditions (per http://www.conservapedia.com/Mystery:Do_Liberal_Teachings_Cause_Mental_Illness%3F ), so there might also be a reciprocal effect. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 11:19, 15 December 2008 (EST)

== "Abstract" principles ==

I don't define "more guns, less crime" and "less taxes, more revenue" as abstract characteristics. There are statistics to back up both claims, as there are statistics to support a counter-claim to either. Those statements are based off of concrete observations and statistics. [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|Discussion]] 12:18, 16 December 2008 (EST)

: The observation "more guns, less crime" does entail a slight abstraction, and there are people who may have trouble understanding. Statistics confirm it, as does logic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 13:50, 16 December 2008 (EST)

::I don't doubt that people may have trouble understanding. However if it is statistically confirmed, where is the abstraction? [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|Discussion]] 13:55, 16 December 2008 (EST)

::: You can always find someone to dispute statistics, as your own posting demonstrates. The real obstacle to some is grasping the abstraction of the logic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 14:03, 16 December 2008 (EST)

::::I think we're arguing for the same side here, Andy. I'm not disputing any statistics; that's my point. The statistics are there ''plain as day'' that an armed citizenry opposes crime. I would say it's just blind ignorance (or faulty logic) to believe otherwise as opposed to an abstraction. [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|Discussion]] 14:27, 16 December 2008 (EST)

::::: I don't think someone having, to use popular terminology, an IQ of less than 100 can easily understand the truth of "more guns, less crime." Abstractions become more difficult to understand the lower the intelligence. Frankly, this abstraction strikes many highly intelligent people as wrong at first glance, before thinking more abstractly.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:11, 16 December 2008 (EST)

==Tweaking the Statistics==
With all due deference to Andy's knowledge on the subject, I believe that it would be beneficial to consider reweighting the estimates for why people choose to remain liberal, despite superior arguments for conservatism, as follows:

:* 25%: did not hear about conservative principles and the logic behind them until ''after'' they made up their mind, perhaps due to pervasive societal bias, and refuse to reconsider;
:* 25%: refuse to rise above their personal temptations, often self-destructive, and refuse to accept conservative values that conflict with their personal desires like sexual promiscuity;
:* 20%: were told off or disciplined once by a conservative, often a parent, and refuse to rise above the animosity;
:* 10%: refuse to let go of their past, or let go of their desire for a sense of acceptance by liberal friends or teachers;
:* 10%: mistakenly feel that conservative values and benefits are available only to those who are from an intact family, not realizing the availability and benefits to all, including children of divorced parents;
:* 5%: bitterly unemployed, or having a salary or benefits that conservatives would reduce, such as public school teachers, and a refusal to rise above self-interest; and
:* 5%: like an anarchist, genuinely want to believe in and propagate destructive ideas.

The largest reason that people remain liberal is clearly their desire to have their immoral and atheistic actions become more socially acceptable so that they can justify such lifestyles to themselves and others. Being disciplined by conservatives goes hand in hand with this - liberals do not like people pointing out that their lifestyle choices are wrong and detrimental to the country as a whole. It is primarily conservatives who are willing to call a spade a spade and chastise immoral conduct. I decreased the point about hearing about conservative principles later in life because the vast majority of United States citizens are raised in Christian churches and are taught the Bible's conservative principles from a young age. It is only once they are school-aged that liberal indoctrination can begin.--[[User:Laches|Laches]] 14:48, 16 December 2008 (EST)

: Good insights, but American kids get indoctrinated by public schools and television at young ages prior to (and during) their formation of their views.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:23, 16 December 2008 (EST)

:: Just one question: You are claiming that no liberal has ever taken that position through logical thought? (Usual disclaimers apply)
:: Okay, two questions: I would still like to see a source for those statistics. "Experience and logic" isn't enough; show me the data.
:::(The silence that will likely follow a response to the second question will not necessarily indicate acceptance of the argument it presents; more likely, it will mean that I believe a response won't add anything.)
::-[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 18:02, 17 December 2008 (EST)

::: The more logical a liberal is the less likely he will remain a liberal. Liberals do better in gaining adherents by avoiding logic. If you have a logical argument for a liberal position, then I'd love to hear it.

::: References are being added to the entry. Feel free to add some yourselves, unless you think that liberals never become conservatives (which is demonstrably false).--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:56, 17 December 2008 (EST)

::::You didn't answer my first question. Are you claiming that no liberal has ever taken that position through logical thought? (I'm just looking for a yes or a no, not an essay.) -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 22:38, 17 December 2008 (EST)

::::: Your question is incoherent. What does "that position" refer to? Are you referring to a specific position (e.g., gun control), or a general ideology (e.g., being a liberal)?

::::: In general, liberal views are not based on logic. There are examples of superficial liberal appeal to logic (e.g., to believe that banning guns will reduce crime), but it doesn't take long to show the error in the logic. Many liberals make superficially logical arguments simply to mislead others who are not bright enough to see the flaw.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 22:49, 17 December 2008 (EST)

::::::Given that I didn't mention anything other than liberalism, it seems obvious that's what I'm referring to. I'll ask again: Are you arguing that no liberal has ever become a liberal through logical thought? "Yes" or "no" will do. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 23:14, 17 December 2008 (EST)

::::::: No one has become a liberal through ''truthful'' logical thought.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 23:25, 17 December 2008 (EST)

Dennis Prager is one of my favorite thinkers, and took this up at length, proving what Andy says is true.
<blockquote>
"With the decline of the authority of Judeo-Christian values in the West, many people stopped looking to external sources of moral standards in order to decide what is right and wrong. Instead of being guided by God, the Bible and religion, great numbers -- in Western Europe, the great majority -- have looked elsewhere for moral and social guidelines.

For many millions in the twentieth century, those guidelines were provided by Marxism, Communism, Fascism or Nazism. For many millions today, those guidelines are "feelings". With the ascendancy of leftist values that has followed the decline of Judeo-Christian religion, ''personal feelings have supplanted universal standards''. In fact, feelings are the major unifying characteristic among contemporary liberal positions.

Aside from reliance on feelings, how else can one explain a person who believes, let alone proudly announces on a bumper sticker, that "War is not the answer"? I know of no comparable conservative bumper sticker that is so demonstrably false and morally ignorant. Almost every great evil has been solved by war -- from slavery in America to the Holocaust in Europe. Auschwitz was liberated by soldiers making war, not by pacifists who would have allowed the Nazis to murder every Jew in Europe." [http://www.orthodoxnet.com/archives/religious_articles.shtml Does religion make people better or worse, Dennis Prager - 24 columns on topic]

</blockquote>
--[[User:TK|'''₮K''']][[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]] 00:27, 18 December 2008 (EST)

==TV Shows==

How about some citations or examples for South Park, Family Guy, and Hannah Montana? Well, the first two are somewhat political anyway I guess. But Hannah Montana? Please, example or citation. Did you know Billy Ray Cyrus is with Sean Hannity on the Freedom Concert, and Miley Cyrus is a strong Christian? [[User:AddisonDM]] 28 December 2008

: I don't watch TV, so I hope someone else can help out here!--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:07, 28 December 2008 (EST)

Hannah Montana is a kid's show. I don't watch it often but it does not seem to be ether conservative or liberal. I think it should be removed from the list of liberal TV shows. --[[User:AmeliaJ|AmeliaJ]] 14:49, 31 December 2008 (EST)

== Statistics ==

Where did the author of the various statistics get their information? It looks to me like the information was fabricated from thin air. In fact, the entire article makes the conservative movement look bad because we come off as extremely arrogant. This is no way to convince liberals to see reason; it only solidifies their belief that we are unable to see any side but our own. This article will make us more enemies than friends.
[[User:WilliamBeason|WilliamBeason]] 14:57, 31 December 2008 (EST)

: The estimates are based on experience and available articles. More citations can be added and I encourage you to do so. Is there a particular statement that you dispute?--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 16:07, 31 December 2008 (EST)

::My problem is that the entire article in general is committing the logical fallacy known as "poisoning the well". Rather than directly confronting liberal ideas, it uses weighted phrases inclusively describing ''all'' liberals as: "close-minded", "irrational", having "poor abstract thinking", and having "arrogance" to create a view that makes all liberals to seem like horrible people. The article seethes with hypocrisy from these statements. If we should seek to show liberals that their views are incorrect, we should combat on '''issues''', not participate in labeling a person simply based off of their political views.
::The article should be rewritten following the '''title'''. As it asks the question "Why do Non-Conservatives Exist?", it should cover more than just liberalism, as there are many political movements ''other than'' conservatism and liberalism. To name a few other major movements: libertarianism, federalism, and marxism. Followers of each political movement have different reasons for existing (be they world events, nationality, socioeconomic class, etc.)
::But to summarize an ideal article under this topic: non-conservatives exist because humans think differently. Because there is such a staggeringly large number of ideologies, sub-ideologies, and other ways to view the world, one would be hard-pressed to find two people who thought that the world should exist in the exact same way. To further compound this, there is no easily definable line that separates one ideology from another because many people take their beliefs from a ''variety'' of political movements.
::Thank you for reading this, and best regards for the new year!
::[[User:WilliamBeason|WilliamBeason]] 23:15, 31 December 2008 (EST)

::: Your comments are thoughtful, and thought-provoking. Thank you. But there are some insights in this entry worth developing. Liberals do try to keep conservative ideas from reaching people. Why? Because many people are liberal simply because they haven't heard conservative principles with an open mind. If they are liberal for long enough, then the mind is closed and will not reconsider.

::: Politics is a battle for control of the future. Liberals know how to play the game to serve their purposes. The percentages might be tweaked a bit, but just watch how the liberals themselves behave. They censor and demonize conservatives, for example, and this entry explains why. Just look at the beginning of the entry by [[Wikipedia]] on Conservapedia and you can see the liberal strategy in action.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 23:27, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Conservapedia talk:Awards

2009-01-01T15:14:01Z

PhilipV: /* A few more ideas for awards */ new section

These awards are really great! :) Will we eventually be able to nominate users for awards? [[User:Taj|Taj]] 02:57, 12 December 2008 (EST)

== Conservapedia monthly awards discussion area below ==

A discussion was started regarding the type and number of monthly awards to be given for meritorious contributions to Conservapedia: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Productivity_at_Conservapedia_recognized_monthly [[ Andy Schlafly]], the owner of Conservapedia, likes the idea of having monthly awards. I also think that Conservapedia monthly award templates should be created so that they can be put on Conservapedian user pages (see: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Conservapedia_monthly_award_templates ).

I realize that conservapedians are volunteers and not employees but I do think this is an excellent resource to keep in mind when designing our conservapedia monthly awards: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0VCW/is_/ai_65329311

Please continue the discussion on this talk page in the area given below. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 15:43, 14 December 2008 (EST)

----
In line with Mr. Schlafly's thinking I agree that these should be simple, i.e. there should only be a few awards each month otherwise they lose their value. I suppose "service levels" would depend on the accumulation of points over a period. Also I don't think it is a good idea to name the awards after people who are not Conservapedians as we do not have the rights to their name. They should just be called the Conservapedia awards. I don't wish to spend too much effort on this just at the moment as I am involved with a lot of activities for our church at this time - (carol services as well as organising the cooking and delivery of meals to the elderly and poor of our parish on Christmas day). So I would like to see more discussions and a clear idea of a workable system. I may not actually be doing much but I will think a bout it a lot. Perhaps we could launch them in January when everthing has been hashed out? --[[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 16:28, 14 December 2008 (EST)
:::I don't agree with you about the awards not being named after people in some cases. I do think that when names are used they should be used to honor historical figures and not contemporary figures. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 16:46, 14 December 2008 (EST)

::::Well I guess that was what I really meant; that we should exclude living people. Even so, we should consider with what authority we make use of someone else's name. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 17:17, 14 December 2008 (EST)
::::::I do realize that it is courteous to have a living person agree to have their name used for an award. I thought having a historical person be used for an award would streamline the process of using a name based award in certain cases. However, I have rethought my position, as long as we have the person's permission, I see nothing wrong with using the person's name. I may contact Mr. Gish as far as a Duane Gish award (see: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#In_2009_have_monthly_Duane_Gish_awards ), but if I cannot get reach him, I think we should use Henry Morris instead. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 17:25, 14 December 2008 (EST)

I agree it is a good idea. I don't agree with the quality of the medals. Since contributors are enticed to win these, I think they should look as close as possible to actual medals and not clip art. [http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&hl=en&q=medal&btnG=Search+Images] --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 11:55, 16 December 2008 (EST)
::::I don't have the time right now to attempt to go to any great lengths to reach Duane Gish and unfortunately he still doesn't work with ICR. I think we should go with a [[Henry Morris]] award instead. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 00:36, 22 December 2008 (EST)

==Category ideas==
*Bible
*Literature
*Human interest
*News stories
*Anti-vandalism
*Science
*Essays
*Sports
*Geography
*Music
*Religion
*Conservative Principles
*Military
*[[Duane Gish]] award (for the most prodigious creator of anti-evolution and creation science material)

There are probably several others. Go ahead and add as you wish. I have no idea how to name the individual awards, but it's a start, anyway. I look forward to hearing your input. Yours truly, [[User:JY23|JY23]] 17:00, 14 December 2008 (EST)
::::I like the idea of subject area awards combined with a few key Geo's awards (see: [[Conservapedia:Awards]] ). I also think an award should go to the editor who does the most main space edits for a month. I think the winner of the awards should be voted on by the users and done monthly. In my next post, I will recommend which of Geo's awards I think should be done monthly. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 23:45, 16 December 2008 (EST)
:::I think the Geo's good conduct medal and Service White Medal should be voted on monthly. I also like the idea of a Duane Gish award being done monthly - see: http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#In_2009_have_monthly_Duane_Gish_awards [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 23:47, 16 December 2008 (EST)
::::::I don't like the idea of a Liberal Awareness award. I don't even know how that award would be decided and I just don't think it is necessary as the "New Stories" and Essays should cover it and it seems as if Sysop Dean is handling the News Stories area along with Andy. Occasionally, I add news stories as well. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 23:50, 16 December 2008 (EST)
:::::::I don't know where that one came from. I took it down just now. [[User:JY23|JY23]] 16:00, 18 December 2008 (EST)
:::I rather enjoyed the liberal awareness prank. :) I shouldn't have fallen for it, but I think it is funny that I did. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 16:11, 18 December 2008 (EST)
I thought science was missing, so I photoshopped something up. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 17:03, 18 December 2008 (EST)
:Looks good, Rod! Could you work on the others? [[User:JY23|JY23]] 17:09, 18 December 2008 (EST)
::I can theoretically make any requests (so long as there's a base image to put in the middle). However, general input would be good. Should they have something written in the top portion, or be changed otherwise? [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 17:18, 18 December 2008 (EST)
:::Personally, I like the way they look now, as for the certain medals, here's some design ideas:
:::*Agriculture: A field with livestock and/or crops
:::*Journalism: A newspaper
:::*Sports: Different sports balls (football, baseball, etc.)
:::*Law: A gavel
:::That's all I have for now. Oh, and by the way, can I remove the medals that yours replaced? [[User:JY23|JY23]] 17:24, 18 December 2008 (EST)

::::Excellent work Rod, I did something similar while I was offline (severed broadband cable, thanks to the local water company) but yours are better (mine were perhaps too shiny). My only query about the whole thing is are we trying to cover too much ground with medals for so many different topics? [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 08:32, 21 December 2008 (EST)

== Today I received Dr. Duane Gish's approval to have a monthly award named in his honor to the Conservapedia editor who is the most prodigious editor when it comes to refutation of evolutionary nonsense ==

Today I received Dr. Duane Gish's approval to have a monthly award named in his honor to the Conservapedia editor who is the most prodigious editor when it comes to refutation of evolutionary nonsense. I think it is likely that Conservapedia will have such an award. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 19:26, 22 December 2008 (EST)
[[Image:Duane_Gish_Award.png|thumb|left|Dr. [[Duane Gish]] will likely soon have an evolutionary refutation monthly award named after him!]]

== A few more ideas for awards ==

The Straw Hat award (a picture of a straw hat will do fine) - awarded for a user creating his/her first 25 new pages (not userpage or talkpage)

The Gold Spanner award - for a user's tireless efforts to repair damage caused by vandals and for mending typos/ other errors.

---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 10:14, 1 January 2009 (EST)

RuneScape

2009-01-01T14:45:30Z

PhilipV: (My son talks about 'RS' all the time - especially this common error)

[[Image:Runescapemining.jpg|right|thumb|Screenshot of RuneScape.]]
'''RuneScape''' is a popular web-based [[MMORPG]].<ref>[http://www.runescape.com/ RuneScape official site]</ref> It was developed and supported by Jagex, Inc., and based in [[Cambridge]], [[England]]. RuneScape is offered in a free version or a subscription version. Paying the $5 per month subscription gives players access to a vast array of new items, quests, and areas to explore. Members also have superior access to the website, forums, and customer support.

The game is popular for a number of reasons, not least of which is that players can chat with each other in a way viewed by everyone in the immediate game area, or privately to selected friends. Control of one's character in the game is mostly done by mouse, including character movement in the game world, purchasing items, selling, picking up or dropping items and changing a character's attire. The graphics interface is intuitive to most players.

Character development is another strong element of the game. A character begins with low skill levels and raises a skill by performing it. Several skills with weapons, armor and magic are used in combat and are raised by performing them. Monsters (dragons, demons, skeletons, etc.) are found in various game locations and respawn a few seconds after they are killed. Player characters can fight each other in designated game's areas. A further strong point the game has is the players ability to create and personalize their own account.

Non-combat skills are also a major aspect of the game. Players use skills such as fishing, mining, and woodcutting to collect raw materials. Secondary skills like cooking or crafting are used to convert these materials into useful items. Again, paying members have an upper hand as they have access to skills unavailable to non-paying members. Some examples of player-produced items are lobsters for restoring hitpoints and "runes" for casting spells.

In addition to skills, there are a variety of quests and minigames which offer useful rewards like skill experience or new items. RuneScape is updated frequently with new content, often on a weekly basis. Tips about playing Runescape can be found at [http://runescape.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page this RuneScape wiki].

==Criticism==
The most common criticisms of RuneScape's gameplay are its repetitive nature and relatively low quality of graphics (compared to other MMORPGs).

Along with other RPGs, Runescape has come under criticism over its addictive nature with players sometimes using the game for days on end. <ref>[http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,21598,22073926-2761,00.html ''Stress over teen's "addiction"']</ref>

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Video Games]]

User talk:SharonS

2009-01-01T14:41:06Z

PhilipV: /* A request (or sorts) episode 3 (see Aschlafly's talk page for the others) */ new section

Welcome to SharonS's talk page. Please enter any messages you have for me below.'''

'''Archives:''' [[User talk:SharonS/Archive1|1]]

== Lava ==

Sharon, I know your new article on [[lava delta]] has only been created within the past half an hour, but please cite your references when you enter information into this wiki. It saves time rather than looking for the cite later and it waves away plagiarism allegations. [[User:Niandra|Niandra]] [[User talk:Niandra|talk]] 08:34, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

:Since it is a US government site, all the material on USGS is public domain, so it is unnecessary to cite USGS as the source, but, at your request, I will cite my sources in the future. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 16:39, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

::For a potential student reading this site, how does he/she know that the material is from a U.S. Government site? They need to be able to challenge the reliability of the data. By entering a simple reference list, this eliminates any such doubt. [[User:Niandra|Niandra]] [[User talk:Niandra|talk]] 22:58, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

== Volcanoes ==

Hey I went to Hawaii about a month ago, I upload some pictures I took of the volcanoes there.--[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 10:55, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

:Wow! Your trip sounds like great fun. Any pictures you have would be great. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 16:39, 19 June 2007 (EDT)

::Cool I gotta get them on my comp first! Hehe then I will share. I promise.--[[User:Will N.|Will N.]] 14:06, 24 June 2007 (EDT)

== Captain ==

Excellent.

I will be ready.

--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 23:06, 28 June 2007 (EDT)

== Harvestman ==

I see that you blocked [[user:Harvestman|Harvestman]] for being a subtle vandal. I agree that that particular edit was improper, but given the other copyedits that he's done, I think a warning should have been sufficient, and I recommend that you unblock him (unless there's more evidence than just that). (Although having said that, I'm about to give him a warning on a separate matter.) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:07, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

:Harvestman replaced the word "Bible" with "The so called Holy Bible" in quite a few pages. His other edits were simply small improvements in an effort to hide his vandalism. This also made him much harder to clean up after, as every single edit of his had to be checked. I feel that a block was justified in this case, as he vandalized a large number of pages. You may undo his block if you really feel that it was unjust, but you will be responsible to watch him closely for any further problems. Thanks, ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 08:22, 30 June 2007 (EDT)
::Okay, I didn't realise that it was more than once. It was, however, with a bot (an unauthorised one, but that's a separate issue), but one that he controlled, so that's no excuse. I've left a message on his talk page for him to contact me, and I will unblock him after he has done so (if he does at all), and subject to the outcome of that contact. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:23, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

It's always important to keep a close eye on new users who make large amount of edits off the bat; some of them may be to hide other ones. Good job noticing that; I probably never would have. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 15:11, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

== Team Contest ==

I am greatly honored and I accept! This will be a lot of fun and a tremendous learning experience for all the competitors. Let the best team win!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:43, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

:Excellent! I have added you to our team's page [[Conservapedia:Team contest/Team two|here]]. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 09:44, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Your turn... --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 14:54, 2 July 2007 (EDT) Pick up two. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 15:05, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

Thank you for selecting me. I accept. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 16:33, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

:Excellent! Our team's page is [[Conservapedia:Team contest/Team two|here]]. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 16:34, 2 July 2007 (EDT)

I accept. Please add me to your team. (I work much better with supervision! ;-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 23:17, 5 July 2007 (EDT)

:Great! Our team's page is [[Conservapedia:Team contest/Team two|here]]. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 06:15, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

I invited User:Conservative [http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Conservative#Contest talk] as I consider him a good option but he has not enough information about the contest. Could you please clarify him some questions he has? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 18:55, 6 July 2007 (EDT)

:Sharon, I am completely tied up until Monday, maybe Monday evening, with family business. When do you expect the contest to begin? If it won't start until then, I would be happy to participate. --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 02:57, 7 July 2007 (EDT)

Your turn.

--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 11:35, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

'''Accept.''' I'd be happy to participate and am honored you've asked me. Thank you. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:01, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

We are ready!

--[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 23:46, 8 July 2007 (EDT)

Your team seems to be lacking a player. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 17:16, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

Team Two Captain: where is your record page [[User:SharonS/contest]] for the judges to look at? For that matter, the only member of your team who has this record in place (thus far) is [[User:Aschlafly|Andrew]]. Without those records, your team cannot receive credit for submissions, edits, blocks, and welcomes.

*[[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 14:57, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
*Judge

:I apologize. Evidently you and most of your teammates used a lowercase "c" instead of a capital "C". Not all your teammates have complied, however; I still cannot see a directory for Ed Poor or for TK, by whatever spelling. Have your other teammates leave their record pages exactly as they are; we can see them now. -- Judge [[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 15:02, 11 July 2007 (EDT)
::That was my doing, I'm sorry. I set up red links for them to use to create their page, and must have used the lowercase "c". [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:05, 12 July 2007 (EDT)

== Judge ==

Sharon, I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate your support of me as a judge (as per [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia_talk%3ATeam_contest&diff=223190&oldid=223187 here]). I like knowing that some people still like my style ;-). --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğ''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 13:46, 9 July 2007 (EDT)
:You're welcome. You have been a good leader on this site, and fully deserve the position as judge. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 13:48, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

:: I agree. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 17:17, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

==Record pages==
Sharon, please notify your team that they need to create record pages, to keep track of their edits. These pages should be located at "User:''UsernameGoesHere''/Contest". See [[User:Tash/Contest]] for an example. Thanks, --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Ĥøĵĭmåçħôńğ''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 18:45, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

== Re: Team Contest ==

Hello. I'd like to be part of your team if there is still a space available. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 18:51, 9 July 2007 (EDT)

== Substitution ==

DeborahB. has asked to participate and I offered to Joaquin the ability to replace User:Conservative, who had misgivings about participating, with DeborahB. I hope that's OK, even though DeborahB. will make Team1 even more difficult for us to beat!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:28, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

:That's fine. I'm glad it worked out. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 16:46, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

==Angina==

Hi, Sharon, please see my comment at [[talk:angina]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:02, 10 July 2007 (EDT)

== question ==

How do you take something off the spam filter and how do you put something back in the spam filter. I want to make a change to the [[homosexuality]] article and I am having some problems. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]]

:I forget how to do that. I'll pass your question on to Mr. Schlafly. Thanks, ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 06:18, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

==Questions==

I saw on Mr. Schlafly's talk page that you asked him about question number 4 on the homework (drafting a law)...I don't think he's on the computer right now, so I figured I'd ask you...I'd like to know the same thing (what he meant). Did he ever respond to you? Thanks! (see you tomorrow!) [[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]] 20:44, 19 September 2007 (EDT)

==Congratulations!==

Congratulations...you're a team captain! See you next Thursday :) [[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]] 09:13, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

:Thanks! You'll be one of my first choices once we start making teams. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 09:47, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

== Contest ==

Sharon, Tash has picked six players from his list and is awaiting confirmation from them. You can pick your six players in the meantime. Also, please pick a mascot. Let's tentatively plan to start the contest Tuesday, though we might need another day to confirm who the players are and agree completely about point system. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:45, 22 September 2007 (EDT)

== Contest ==

*Sharon, [[User:Iduan|Iduan]] IM'd me asking about the contest, and could he join a team. I sent him to Tash, but Tash said he had already picked his team. I suggested he contact you. I don't know what the rules are for this one, or if all team members have to be on some list Andy made, or what. Anyway, he's a nice guy, pretty technical/wiki savvy, so if you are still picking, you might want to contact him! --[[User:TK|şŷŝôρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|Ṣρёаќǃ]] 15:47, 23 September 2007 (EDT)

:I think we are picking from pre-approved lists this time, since the contest is part of the American Government course. If Iduan, or any other user would like to organize their own team contest they are certainly welcome to. I will keep him in mind next time I am a captain. Thanks, ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 06:48, 24 September 2007 (EDT)

:Daniel just asked to join our team. In Christ,--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:35, 27 September 2007 (EDT)

==Can I join the Contest==

Hey Sharon, is there any way I can join the class team? I would like to be added as PhilipB, not CPWebmaster. But for some reason I couldn't edit this page with that account. Thanks! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 09:55, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

:Hi Philip! I would love to have you on my team, but I'm not sure if I can. I currently have eight team members while Tash has seven. I passed your question on to Mr. Schlafly. If it turns out that you can't join, you will probably be able to participate in the next contest. Thanks, ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 11:32, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

:: Add Philip on! I'll take this up with Tash and we can have a way of adjusting points at the end if necessary.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:39, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

::: Thanks! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 13:14, 28 September 2007 (EDT)

Sharon, please update the main page numbers when you have today's latest tally! Looks like we're still ahead!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:45, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

:Yes it does! I've got 769.5 for us versus 564 for Airborne. I have asked Tash to confirm that number, but I am pretty sure that I counted correctly this time. Should I wait for Tash to respond before I post the scores? ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 21:49, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

:: We can post our updated scores on our [[Team Galaxy]] page, but we should wait until he gives us an updated score before posting in the main page, I think.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:52, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

: Well done, Sharon! What a fantastic two-day tally for you!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:16, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

::Thanks! I just hope I can keep it up, come Monday, and the deluge of schoolwork! Overall, I think our team is doing remarkably well, and suspect we will come out on top, once Tash gets the tally set. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 22:19, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

== Changing spelling in quotes ==

Sharon, we do prefer "offense" over "offence", but quotes have to be repeated exactly as they were originally. If "offence" was in those early quotes in [[American Government Lecture Three]], then that less preferred spelling should remain unchanged. Thanks. By the way, our team seems to be doing well today!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:31, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

:Whoops! I'll fix that now. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 16:39, 29 September 2007 (EDT)

== Day 3 ==

211 points so far for me! Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:15, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

:Thank you. I'm going to total up the points for day three so far now. I have a feeling we will once again come out on top! ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 20:37, 30 September 2007 (EDT)

==Contest==

Let's win this contest! [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 09:09, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

:Amen! Great editing, BTW. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 09:12, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

::Just wanted to let you know I updated my contest page...I've been working for the past 50 minutes or so, so I have about 100 points...make sure you add that to the final number!!!! [[User:DeborahB./Contest]] We are so gonna win...yay!! :) :) :)[[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]] 11:50, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

::Great work, Deb. I'll update the total now. We are going to win! ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 11:52, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

::I just updated it again...[[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]]. I'ts 12:01 officially...WE WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) [[User:DeborahB.|DeborahB.]] 12:01, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

:::YES!!! That was such an exciting finish! I can't wait to see the final point total for [[Team Airborne]]. I think we beat them by quite a bit. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 12:02, 5 October 2007 (EDT)

The new contest page looks fantastic, Sharon!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:04, 12 November 2007 (EST)

*Sharon, Andy has evidently forgotten to make a protected/hidden team page for Team 2. Could you undertake to do so as a personal favor to me, and add the team members to access it? Thanks! --[[User:TK|şyŝoρ-₮K]][[User_Talk:TK|/Ṣρёаќǃ]] 17:23, 12 November 2007 (EST)

:I haven't figured out how to do that yet, but I am forwarding your request to Mr. Schlafly. Thanks, ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 19:20, 12 November 2007 (EST)

==Just a friendly reminder!==

We are loosing...we need to get to work! --[[User:BethanyS|~BCS]][[User talk:BethanyS|Talk2'''ME''']] 18:28, 12 November 2007 (EST)

== Mistake? ==

Sharon, did you mean "21,000" rather than "30,000" in your last edit to the main page?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:23, 16 December 2007 (EST)

:Yes, Thank you for catching that! ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 06:35, 17 December 2007 (EST)

== Block ==

Marvelous block a few minutes ago!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:53, 11 February 2008 (EST)

:Thanks! ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 21:53, 11 February 2008 (EST)

== Editing shortcut ==

A Sysop cleverly inserted a period after the title for the right side of the Main page for easy editing (just click on the period). I just imitated it by inserting a tiny click-on period after the title for the left side. This makes editing the Main page easier.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:07, 15 February 2008 (EST)

:That's a great idea! Thanks much! ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 14:24, 15 February 2008 (EST)

==CPTest==
Thanks for unblocking CPTest, I am using it for something I'm testing. [[User:CPWebmaster|CPWebmaster]] 12:55, 16 February 2008 (EST)

:No problem. I knew it was you because of checkuser. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 12:56, 16 February 2008 (EST)

== Contest ==

That's great: welcome to the contest! This one will focus on quality and insights rather than quantity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:50, 17 February 2008 (EST)

: Great idea: let's make Fox captain.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:07, 17 February 2008 (EST)

== Deconstruction ==

Wow, what a fantastic new entry!!!! It could become a masterpiece award-winner. It makes for a terrific kickoff. Your team has an entry, and so does ours now ([[Roberta McCain]]). Let's start!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:15, 17 February 2008 (EST)

:Thank you! I'm looking forward to getting started. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 17:18, 17 February 2008 (EST)

== Day One ==

Wow, Sharon, that's an amazing score for Day One. And it might be more than that: your [[Deconstruction]] is a good candidate for the masterpiece award of 100 points!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:32, 17 February 2008 (EST)

:Thanks! I hope I can keep it up until the contest ends. Do we have an official end date yet? ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 20:58, 17 February 2008 (EST)

:: It's up to you when to end it. We're flexible. I don't anyone to feel pressured, but a little competition is helpful to bring out the best in everyone!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:17, 17 February 2008 (EST)

==Post-contest==
A big thank you for all of your efforts in the contest, Sharon! I don't know how the final scores will pan out, but we definitely held our own! Much appreciated :D [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] ([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]]) 06:53, 21 February 2008 (EST)

:Thank ''you''! Your contributions were amazing. Hopefully we will be able to win some of the masterpieces for 400 points. Since the point increase, these awards could change the outcome of the contest. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 07:22, 21 February 2008 (EST)

:: Sharon, well done in the contest! I agree with your comment that the new rules are more productive, more educational, and ... more enjoyable!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:22, 21 February 2008 (EST)

== Masterpiece ==

What happens? Why Image:JHF2.jpg no longer exist?

By the way that "Milkmaid" painting has already been in "Masterpiece of the week". --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:34, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

:Sorry about the confusion! The masterpiece we had chosen was inappropriate, and not family friendly. See the discussion on [[Talk:Main Page]] I'll find a new masterpiece. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 19:46, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

:: At Talk Masterpieces there are others ready to use. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:54, 17 March 2008 (EDT)

== A painting ==

Hello

There is a contradiction about a painting. Would you like to be a judge in a debate? --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 16:25, 14 May 2008 (EDT)

==[[Pride and Prejudice]]==

Excellent [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pride_and_Prejudice&diff=next&oldid=271414 addition] to the plot summary! I only read the book once, but I've seen three movie versions. You added many important details and plot twists. Thank you! --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 14:58, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

:Glad you liked it! I had to read Pride and Prejudice as a literature assignment, and figured I would flesh out the page while the plot was fresh in my mind. ~ [[User:SharonS|Sharon]][[User talk:SharonS|Talk]] 15:34, 21 May 2008 (EDT)

== You're a Sysop, right? ==

If so, could you please unlock my [[User:DLerner|user page]]? Thank you. [[User:DLerner|DLerner]] 19:42, 27 August 2008 (EDT)

== A request (or sorts) episode 3 (see Aschlafly's talk page for the others) ==

I am curious as to whether i could please have picture upload rights ''before'' block rights?---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 09:41, 1 January 2009 (EST)

Wikiproject:Religion

2009-01-01T14:29:02Z

PhilipV: /* Members */

Hello, and welcome to Wikiproject Religion, we are a project trying to improve the quality of religion related articles, if you sufficient knowledge in a particular [[religion]] please specify under the members section

==Members==
To sign up simply put <nowiki>*~~~~</nowiki> followed by the religions you have adequate knowledge of

* [[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]] [[User:Deborah|Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|(contributions)]] [[User_talk:Deborah|(talk)]] [[Special:Emailuser/Deborah | email me]] 18:01, 28 July 2008 (EDT) [[Christianity]], [[Judaism]], [[Islam]] (founder)
*[[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|שועל]] ([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]]) 18:03, 28 July 2008 (EDT) [[Christianity]], [[Judaism]], [[Messianic Judaism]]
*--[[User:DeanS|DeanStalk]] 18:24, 28 July 2008 (EDT) [[Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]]
*--[[User:Phillip|Phillip]] 20:38, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
*'''---[[user:DLerner]]---''' 21:20, 5 August 2008 (EDT)
*--[[User:MCrowe|MCrowe]] 21:30, 5 August 2008 (EDT) Catholicism
*-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:50, 21 August 2008 (EDT) 15:49, 21 August 2008 (EDT) Catholicism
*[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 18:52, 20 November 2008 (EST) [[Unification Church]] (member for {{years since|1977}} years); some familiarity with [[Judaism]], protestant and Catholic Christianity, [[Mormons]], [[Christian Science]], [[Jehovah's Witnesses]], church history starting with the [[Reformation]], various interfaith issues, and Christian [[ethics]].
--[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 20:45, 28 November 2008 (EST) Catholicism, Scientology, Atheism, A little bit of Aquinas too.
* [[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 22:42, 2 December 2008 (EST) ([[Judaism]] and [[Christianity]], especially [[Old Testament]] history, genealogy, and chronology.
--[[User:Krysg|Krysg]] 11:26, 5 December 2008 (EST) Egyptian, especially high (state) religion and the Heliopolitan solar cults, and Sunni Islam.
*[[User:RickD|RickD]] 08:16, 13 December 2008 (EST) [[Pentecostal]]/[[Fundamentalism]] (started out as a curious sort of guru-buster, ended up undergoing a profound, miraculous conversion experience). Know something about [[Religion and science]] discipline. Currently, have access to professional search engines like Academic version of Lexis-Nexus. Decent researcher if someone needs another set of eyes to find or verify sources (i.e., feel free to boss me around once in a while).
*[[User:Ddiaz841|Ddiaz841]] 23:11, 21 December 2008 (EST) Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism

---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 09:29, 1 January 2009 (EST)

==Articles==
===Featured Articles===
*[[Jesus Christ]]
*[[C.S. Lewis]]
*[[Genesis]]
*[[Scopes Trial]]
*[[Bible]]
*[[Saint Nicholas]]
*[[Young Earth Creationism]]
*[[Starlight problem]]
*[[Passover]]
===Potential featured religion articles===
*[[Holy Days]]
*[[Great Flood]]
*[[Kosher]]
*[[cult]]

See [[Conservapedia:Featured articles]] to try to keep this always up to date and to vote and discuss if you would like these articles to be featured or not

===Requested articles===
====Requested Christianity articles====
====Requested Hinduism articles====
====Requested Islam articles====
====Requested Judaism articles====
====Other requested articles====
*[[Book of Abraham]] (Mormonism)

===Articles which need help on===
*[[Halal]] I know about Islamic legends, but not about their law, I expanded this just a little bit, the best I could, I would appreciate it if other members could help expand the article -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]] [[User:Deborah|Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|(contributions)]] [[User_talk:Deborah|(talk)]]
[[Special:Emailuser/Deborah | email me]] 18:23, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

I was hoping that maybe the [[Kosher]] and [[Halal]] article could be featured around the same time -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|12px]] [[User:Deborah|Deborah]] [[Special:Contributions/Deborah|(contributions)]] [[User_talk:Deborah|(talk)]]
[[Special:Emailuser/Deborah | email me]] 18:33, 28 July 2008 (EDT)

===New Articles===
(Most of these articles will probably need to be expanded)
*[[Religious vegetarianism]]

==Potential Work groups/ and or Wikiprojects==
[[Christianity]], [[Judaism]] maybe [[Hinduism]] and [[Islam]]
==See also==
*[[Wikiproject:Religion/category list]]
[[Category:Wikiprojects]]
[[Category:Wikiproject Religion]]

Wikiproject:News/Wanted page

2009-01-01T14:28:17Z

PhilipV: /* Contributions */

Some of the news articles posted on the Main page need new articles created on Conservapedia. If you create a wanted page for a news article, it will be wikilinked on the Main Page.

==Contributions==
This table is a count of ''completed'' wanted pages per contributor. This table lists only those contributors with 10 or more pages completed and is updated when the completed pages are archived. 
For the full list, see the [[Wikiproject:News/Wanted page/Completed|Wanted page - Completed archives]] page. 

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! Contributor
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| [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]]
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| [[User:Bugler|Bugler]]
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| [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]
| <center>237</center>
|-
| [[User:DirkB|DirkB]]
| <center>18</center>
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| [[User:DRamon|DRamon]]
| <center>16</center>
|-
| [[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]]
| <center>57</center>
|-
| [[User:Jpatt|Jp]]
| <center>55</center>
|-
| [[User:Markr|Markr]]
| <center>13</center>
|-
| [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]]
| <center>26</center>
|}

==Wanted Pages for "In the news" section - To be created==

*'''Additions to this list''' - Any member of this project may review articles from the Main page and if the wikilink is missing, they may add a wanted article to this list.
*'''Deletions from this list''' The process is:
:*Move the wikilink on this page from the ''To be created'' section to the bottom of the ''Completed'' section with the appropriate credit.
:*Update the number of articles under your name in the table.
:*Find the corresponding term on the Main page or news archives. (Admins)
:*Wikilink to the corresponding Conservapedia article. (Admins)

#[[Boomer Left]]
#[[National Unity]]
#[[R. Barclay Surrick]]
#[[oath of allegiance]]
#[[Rashid Khalidi]]
#[[slash-and-burn politics]]
#[[restlessness]]
#[[non-governmental]]
#[[Zhao Xiao]]
#[[pervasive]]
#[[enthusiasm]]
#[[assess]]
#[[support]]
#[[Richard Ellis]]
#[[vicious]]
#[[anticipate]]
#[[remind]]
#[[attempt]]
#[[National Finance Committee]]
#[[dissemination]]
#[[decrepitude]]
#[[poise]]d
#[[provide]]
#[[skin cell]]
#[[shortcut]]
#[[sprinkle|sprinkling]]
#[[background]]
#[[disenfranchisement]]
#[[Steven Marquis]]
#[[Ahmed Yousef]]
#[[letter of congratulation]]
#[[particular]]
#[[reinforce]]
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#[[graduation]]
#[[social justice]]
#[[teachers college]]
#[[constituent]]
#[[George Leef]]
#[[Michele Bachmann]]
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#[[church bulletin]]
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#[[Paul Ibrahim]]
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#[[creatures]]
#[[national]]
#[[confront]]
#[[recruiter]]
#[[certificate]]
#[[valid]]
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#[[suppliers]]
#[[automakers]]
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==Conservapedia wanted articles==
These wanted articles were taken from the [[Special:Wantedpages|Conservapedia wanted articles]] list. Completing these wanted articles adds to your total count.

#[[Railroad Retirement Board]]
#[[Meaning]]
#[[Nursing Clinics of North America]]
#[[History Cooperative]]
#[[Efficiency Movement]]
#[[Orpheus]]
#[[Brian Schweitzer]]
#[[Mongol Empire]]
#[[Tom Harkin]]
#[[Reconciliation]]
#[[Greek Orthodox]]
#[[Nestorian]]
#[[Printing]]
#[[Progress]]

==Wanted Pages - Completed==
Whenever this section contains over 25 entries, the first 25 entries are added to the [[Wikiproject:News/Wanted page/Completed|Wanted page - Completed archives]] page so this section doesn't get too large in relation to the page.

#[[Bernardine Dohrn]] December 20, 2008 TK
#[[proliferation]] December 23, 2008 DeanS
#[[recount]] December 23, 2008 Bugler

==See also==
*[[Wikiproject:Religion#Requested_articles]]
[[Category:Wikiproject News]]

Tom Harkin

2009-01-01T14:24:10Z

PhilipV: New page: == Early Life == Senator Tom Harkin was born in the small village of Cumming, Iowa on November 19th 1939. His Father was a coal miner and his mother a Slovenian immigrant...

Printing

2009-01-01T13:54:56Z

PhilipV: New page: Printing is a process during which a pigment is applied to paper, cloth or various other materials to apply color to the material. Printing was first used to print books using a [[Printing...

Printing is a process during which a pigment is applied to paper, cloth or various other materials to apply color to the material. Printing was first used to print books using a [[Printing Press]].

[[Category:Dictionary]]

Talk:Young mass murderers

2009-01-01T03:58:18Z

PhilipV: /* Teach Marksmanship ! */

=="Mass Murder"==
This is a very strong term, and here, it seems to be used disturbingly broadly, so what's the exact definition? Does suicide count into the "mass"? Is somebody who kills himself and one other person a mass murderer? --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 15:21, 7 December 2007 (EST)
:Well, apparently, "mass murder" now also means "wounding and intending to kill many people" since Andy reverted my edit. I won't bother to make additional edits to this. Already got a warning block for this (among other things, like the high crime of cleaning up Conservative's mess), so whatever. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 16:55, 7 December 2007 (EST)

::Yes, the title is awkward, but we know what it means. I'm open to suggestions and can "move" the article to a new title if a better one can be found. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 17:00, 7 December 2007 (EST)

:::"but we know what it means" - Ed, I'm glad that you (or Andy) weren't around when Britannica or other encyclopedias were looking for editors. Since this article is in the mainspace and thus a part of an ''encyclopedia'' (and since there is no article text giving this table any context), the headline has to be correct and not some wishy-washy "Yeah, I know it's wrong, but it sounds great!" placeholder.
:::I would vote for a move to Andy's userspace since the entire point of this <s>article</s> table is to give Andy a more convenient way of mocking liberals ("Liberal response: Poem comparing it to environmental harm" - Gosh, other people call that "victims trying to deal with a tragedy", but hey, whatever works to make a cheap point!) and casting tragedies into a light that makes me doubt that the table is supposed to be more than satire ("Belief: wore black entirely", "Belief: targeted Christmas shoppers" - I feel like I'm reading The Onion.).
:::To be honest, I don't see much encyclopedic value in this table. Especially not in its current form with the columns and "beliefs" mentioned above. If we cut out the "Liberal response" column, clean up the last column, find all sorts of sources, and write an entire article around the table, then we could move it to "List of school shootings" or something (which in turn might be a candidate for a category instead of a dedicated article).
:::But that is somewhat like trying to rebuild a car when you just start with one damaged wheel: Sure, you could repair the wheel and then build a car around it, but why not just build a car in a more logical order (starting with a motor or chassis)?
:::Maybe move the table to some workbench outside the mainspace and see if people are dedicated enough to tinker with it. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 17:35, 7 December 2007 (EST)

Jenkins, I didn't read through all of your long-winded comments above. But as I said on your talk page, a Wiki is for ''adding'' and/or ''improving'' information, not deleting it. If you can improve, then do so, but don't delete information and serve the role of a censor. Go to [[Wikipedia]] to do that, where censors delete [[conservative]] information daily.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:43, 7 December 2007 (EST)

:Andy, why do you even reply when you didn't read my post? Words fail me. Not even going to bother replying to your completely messed-up idea of improving the wiki ("You must not remove information added by me, no matter how little it has to do with the title"). Oh, and thanks for blocking me for cleaning up the mess caused by one of your High Quality Editors and accusing me of censorship. That sure motivates me! --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 17:57, 7 December 2007 (EST)

== "wore black entirely," ==

ROUND UP THE NUNS!!!! I THINK SISTER MARY ELLEN IS PACKING HEAT!!!!!!

What about ninjas? They wear all black, and we know they're bad. Black = evil.

and Italian widows.

equating black with evil makes nuns and ministers evil ? thats not correct. Does lead one to wonder why black was selected especially as Nuns are the brides of christ , maybe white is a real challange laundry wise. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 13:50, 21 November 2008 (EST)

==Young mass murderers==

What is the criteria? Under 30? Under 25? And does a shooting in December qualify the murderer as anti-Christian? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 09:17, 8 December 2007 (EST)

Hey, does one poem someone wrote on a blog really count as a response for all liberals? Or just one person? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:59, 8 December 2007 (EST)

: That was the official Virginia Tech poem. It's probably somewhere on the Virginia Tech now, as it was after the tragedy.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:03, 8 December 2007 (EST)

: What is the cutoff for "young"? It's the same definition as for anything else. Still in school, or out of school and less than, say, 21.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:03, 8 December 2007 (EST)
::So then the VA Tech guy ''doesn't'' count then? He was 23. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 18:44, 8 December 2007 (EST)

::: Dude, where's your logic? Of course the [[Virginia Tech killer]] satisfies the definition of "young". Please read it again, and apply logic this time.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:47, 8 December 2007 (EST)

::::By your "logic", [http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-9169,00.html Constance Clark] would have been a "young mass murderer" if she had gone on a killing spree during her last university year (at age '''50'''). It somehow appears as if you're deliberately setting the goalposts to include all students while still pretending to only focus on young ones.
::::Do I regard a 23 old man as "young"? Not really. He's old enough to drink, drive and vote (just not in that order, please...), so calling him "young" is misleading. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 19:54, 8 December 2007 (EST)

==A Growing Problem?==

Andy, you said on the Main Talk Page that, "''...this problem is growing: there were 4 mass murders...in 2007. How many will there be in 2008?''" I'm afraid that's not accurate--there's been a fairly steady number of such incidents for at least a decade. Googling "school shootings" will bring up various timelines going back years with much fodder for this article. --[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:23, 9 December 2007 (EST)

:It's certainly been growing since the mid 90s, though. There was a wave of school shootings in 1997-1999, and copycat incidents have happened since. I just wrote a paper for my college class using statistics from 1995, and the writers then were arguing that school violence was relatively rare. And it certainly wasn't as much of a threat in the 1970s. It's growing, even though there may be variance year to year. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 14:24, 9 December 2007 (EST)

::Yes, absolutely. I wonder, too, how much of the sense of a "growing" problem is a function of the greater availability of news via the Internet, which started hitting its stride in the mid-90s. A lot of the "lesser" pre-Net incidents might be buried out of public attention in local papers.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:57, 9 December 2007 (EST)

::: No, I think it is a growing problem. I've heard the claims that it was constant or even declining from the 1970s (Vietnam Era) through Columbine (1999), but I think that's outdated now. 4+ big incidents in one year (2007), totaling 50 dead and many injured, plus numerous arrests including some yesterday for foiled attempts, is more than any time in 30 years, I think.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:12, 9 December 2007 (EST)

== Colorado killer ==

The Colorado killer does not meet the previous definition of young: "Still in school, or out of school and less than, say, 21." Besides, he was a Christian-hater too.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:16, 10 December 2007 (EST)

:A "very, very religious" Christian who hates Christians? That's a new one on me. The young man was clearly troubled, but I don't think you've shown that he hated Christians specifically, so much as he bore a grudge against the Missionary program from which he was ejected. [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 21:43, 10 December 2007 (EST)

::The point was that he was homeschooled. When a Public Schooler goes on a mass killing spree its '''solely''' because he went to a public school. When a homeschooler goes on a killing spree its '''most certainly not''' because of his flawless education and values. [[User:MarcusCicero|MarcusCicero]] 21:50, 10 December 2007 (EST) P.S- Just above, you also say the V Tech killer meets the definition of young. At least attempt to find logical consistency.
==VT==
Saying that the VT poem merely compared the tragedy to environmental harm is disingenuous as it is a gross understatement - more should be added to that. Regardless however, the poem had no political motivations - it was logic - unless someone here thinks that elephants DESERVE to be massacred for ivory. "Damn those darn elephants -they cheat in a poker games"--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 22:03, 10 December 2007 (EST)
==Asa Coon==
Why is Asa Coon on here? Since when is suicide mass murder?--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 09:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)

: Attempted murder ... 4 times, followed by killing himself, which is also a type of murder.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:06, 16 February 2008 (EST)
::Oh ok - sorry I missed the number of injured - my mistake.--[[User:Iduan|I]][[User_talk:Iduan|Duan]] 14:01, 16 February 2008 (EST)
I'm not a communist or anything but I really don't understand how you can class a suicide as mass murder. Surely if this is the case the list would be somewhat longer than eight entries. [[User:RedDog|RedDog]] 13:32, 16 February 2008 (EST)

== Ummm...Mr. Schlafly? ==

Aschlafly reverted my edit about the latest one concerning public schools, and....may I ask why? It seemed a logical followup to what was said. --[[User:JMarks|JMarks]] 23:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)

== Reverts ==

Why were Jeff Weise and Kip Kinkell removed? '''[[user:FernoKlump|FernoKlump]]'''[[User:FernoKlump/petition|Look at this petition!]] 12:55, 16 July 2008 (EDT)

== Marc Lépine ==

Why does Aschlafly keep trying to remove Marc Lepine?--[[User:DamianSuarez|DamianSuarez]] 10:54, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

: As I stated clearly, Marc had been in the workforce and was not a "young mass murderer." Also, the description for his views is misleading because it lacks hsi religious background. See, e.g., [http://www.volokh.com/posts/1142399687.shtml Volokh Blog].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:17, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

::He was also still in school and is younger than another entry on this list. His views were that he hated feminism. How is this misleading? If you don't believe me, read his suicide note.--[[User:DamianSuarez|DamianSuarez]] 11:38, 31 July 2008 (EDT)

<blockquote>
Forgive the mistakes, I had 15 minutes to write this. See also Annex. Would you note that if I commit suicide today 89-12-06 it is not for economic reasons (for I have waited until I exhausted all my financial means, even refusing jobs) but for political reasons. Because I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. For seven years life has brought me no joy and being totally blasé, I have decided to put an end to those viragos. 

I tried in my youth to enter the Forces as an officer cadet, which would have allowed me possibly to get into the arsenal and precede Lortie in a raid. They refused me because antisocial (sic). I therefore had to wait until this day to execute my plans. In between, I continued my studies in a haphazard way for they never really interested me, knowing in advance my fate. Which did not prevent me from obtaining very good marks despite my theory of not handing in work and the lack of studying before exams. 

Even if the Mad Killer epithet will be attributed to me by the media, I consider myself a rational erudite that only the arrival of the Grim Reaper has forced to take extreme acts. For why persevere to exist if it is only to please the government. Being rather backward-looking by nature (except for science), the feminists have always enraged me. They want to keep the advantages of women (e.g. cheaper insurance, extended maternity leave preceded by a preventative leave, etc.) while seizing for themselves those of men. 

Thus it is an obvious truth that if the Olympic Games removed the Men-Women distinction, there would be Women only in the graceful events. So the feminists are not fighting to remove that barrier. They are so opportunistic they neglect to profit from the knowledge accumulated by men through the ages. They always try to misrepresent them every time they can. Thus, the other day, I heard they were honoring the Canadian men and women who fought at the frontline during the world wars. How can you explain then that women were not authorized to go to the frontline??? Will we hear of Caesar's female legions and female galley slaves who of course took up 50% of the ranks of history, though they never existed. A real Casus Belli. 

Sorry for this too brief letter. 

Marc Lépine</blockquote>

::A list of names follows, with this note attached:--[[User:DamianSuarez|DamianSuarez]] 11:38, 31 July 2008 (EDT)
<blockquote>Nearly died today. The lack of time (because I started too late) has allowed these radical feminists to survive.
Alea Jacta Est.</blockquote>

==Rename?==
It seems to me this article needs to be renamed, without the "mass" in the title. Someone who murders one person (Kimveer Gill) or just himself (Asa Coon) can't really be said to be a "mass murderer" by any sense of the definition. Maybe "Attempted mass murderers" or just "murderers", or some other adjective, for accuracy's sake. [[User:Fyezall|Fyezall]] 12:05, 26 August 2008 (EDT)
: perhaps just remove the few who didnt kill more than 1 ?

== Teach Marksmanship ! ==

My initial response to this article is probably going to seem bizarre but the death count and number wounded leads me to a professional condemnation of their marksmanship. If the intention was to kill rather than just create confusion then more injured than dead is inexcusable [[User:Markr|Markr]] 13:46, 21 November 2008 (EST)

I find that comment incredibly distasteful (not that i lost any friends in these attacks) but never the less, spare a thought for the parents and friends of the victims - would they like to hear that comment? (just my opinion - nothing personal) ---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]][[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']] 22:58, 31 December 2008 (EST)

Sahara

2008-12-31T01:56:50Z

PhilipV:

The Sahara is the largest hot [[desert]] on [[Earth]] ([[Antarctica]] is technically the largest desert, though it is [[cold]]). It dominates the northern half of the [[Africa|African]] continent. The word "Sahara" means Desert in arabic.
== External links ==

*[http://www.enchantedlearning.com/geography/glossary/ Glossary]
[[Category:Deserts]]