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Draft/Trans and Drag Grooming In the West

2023-06-11T16:04:23Z

Mikephshdj:

The purpose of this page is to catalogue all examples and instances of trans and Drag pedophilia and grooming in the USA and other western countries

This is a DRAFT and will be edited as time goes on. It is highly encouraged for members of the community to continue to edit and update this page

And drag grooming refers to the process by which members of the transgender and drag queen and other LGBT community attempt to groom and manipulate underage people into either accepting extremely inappropriate and oftentimes illegal deviancy or even participating in it.

Examples can range from merely teachers or members of the trans community holding events attempting to normalize transgenderism up to attempt to convince children to become transgender by manipulating them and lying to them in an attempt to make them think that they are transgender (hereby referred to as grooming) All the way to extremely inappropriate drag shows where half naked men dance and twerk and perform other sexual gestures directly in front of children sometimes even INCLUDING the children in the performance

According to the Mayo Clinic : "some of these changes aren't reversible or will require surgery to reverse the effects"

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

The majority of the rest of this page will simply catalog every instance found of this type of grooming. The examples will range from outright sexual performances in front of children all the way to events attempting to normalize those performances.

Pedophile Grooming Exposed in Dallas Drag Event Involving Children

https://www.newswars.com/pedophile-grooming-exposed-in-dallas-drag-event-involving-children/

The Clinical Steps To Grooming Kids Match Exactly How They’re Being Taught In Schools

https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/29/grooming-schools-education-sexual-abuse-children-transgender-groomer-drag-queen-story-hour/

Michigan Groomer Seems Upset To Be Called A Groomer

https://www.thepiratescove.us/2022/04/21/michigan-groomer-seems-upset-to-be-called-a-groomer/

**WATCH: Drag Queen Pulls Out His Penis In Front Of Kids At ‘Family Friendly Drag Show’**

https://en-volve.com/2022/09/12/watch-drag-queen-pulls-out-his-penis-in-front-of-kids-at-family-friendly-drag-show/

**Pennsylvania Drag Queen Who Performed For Children Charged With 25 Counts Of Child Pornography**

https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/24/pennsylvania-drag-queen-charges-arrest-child-pornography-brice-patric-ryschon-williams/

**Judge who headed 'Drag Queen Story Hour' sponsor arrested on child porn charges**

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/milwaukee-brett-blomme-arrested-drag-queen-story-hour-sponsor

**Paedophile drag queen arranged to meet father to have sex with his children, 8 and 11, but was caught by police who set up sting operation**

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382454/Paedophile-drag-queen-Robert-Clothier-arranged-sex-children-8-11-caught-police-sting.html

**Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader Exposed As A Pedophile**

https://newspunch.com/second-drag-queen-story-hour-reader-exposed-as-a-pedophile/

**Twitter users erupt in outrage after drag queens wearing thongs dance for kids**

https://www.christianpost.com/news/drag-show-for-moms-and-babies-with-men-in-thongs-prompts-outrage.html

**‘Absolutely Revolting’: Footage Of Sexually Explicit Drag Show For Babies, Toddlers Goes Viral**

https://www.dailywire.com/news/absolutely-revolting-footage-of-sexually-explicit-drag-show-for-babies-toddlers-goes-viral

Outrage as Argos sells G-strings for children

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-109621/Outrage-Argos-sells-G-strings-children.html

As stated before this page has a lot of work to be done and it is requested that members of the community please edit and update this page as you see fit in terms of formatting style as well as information being added.

Rachel Levine advocates for 'transing' children, predicts normalization of trans kids

https://www.rebelnews.com/dr_rachel_levine_advocates_for_transing_children_predicts_normalization_of_trans_kids

Many mothers were spotted bringing young children to the sexually explicit Drag Queen Christmas Tour stops in Texas.

https://twitter.com/saragonzalestx/status/1604591203709644800

EXCLUSIVE: Two Survivors Allege They Were “Groomed,” Sexually Exploited By Staff at Scottish LGBT Youth Charity

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-two-survivors-allege-they-were-groomed-sexually-exploited-by-staff-at-scottish-lgbt-youth-charity/

Florida Church Caught Bussing kids to Queer Event/Attempted Secret Gay Prom

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/florida-church-caught-attempting-to-bus-12-year-olds-from-local-schools-for-drag-event.120442/

Duluth Gay Bar Hosts Mama's Toybox/other midwestern drag events for kids thread

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/duluth-nightclub-hosts-mamas-toybox-drag-night-for-kids.120446/

Ankeny Iowa High School Drag Show

http://ttps//kiwifarms.net/threads/drag-show-hits-stage-at-ankeny-high-school-iowa.119777/

Taco Bell Sponsors Drag Brunches for GLBT kid group

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/taco-bell-sponsors-drag-brunches-to-raise-funds-for-lgbt-youth-outreach.120434/

Young Boys Dance for Tips at LA Public Library Sponsored Drag Convention

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/l-a-public-library-sponsors-drag-con-where-young-boys-dance-for-tips.120244/

Preschool Uses Troon/Pregnant Man Flashcards to teach Colors

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/preschool-uses-flash-cards-depicting-pregnant-man-to-teach-colors-north-carolina.120016/

State Farm Donates Troon books to 5 year olds in schools

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/state-farm-donating-transgender-books-for-5-year-olds-to-schools-in-florida.119700/

Philadelphia Schools has drag event for end of year celebration.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1530342906577293312

School Board Member Owns "All Ages" Sex Shop, Hosts Queer Youth Open Mic

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/school-board-director-hosts-queer-youth-open-mic-at-sex-shop.119253/

Top Academic Hosting Child Sexual Abuse Erotica Pushes to Revise WPATH Guidelines

https://reduxx.info/top-academic-behind-fetish-site-hosting-child-sexual-abuse-fantasy-push-to-revise-wpath-guidelines/

Pedophilia advocate admits conservatives are right: Yes, kid drag shows are sexual

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pedophilia-advocate-admits-conservatives-are-right-yes-kid-drag-shows-are-sexual/

[[Category:Uncategorized]][[Category:Orphan pages]]]

Database of LGBT and trans pedophiles

2023-04-26T23:36:30Z

Mikephshdj:

School Staffer Who Pushed LGBTQ Curriculum Arrested For Pedophilia<ref>[https://go2tutors.com/michigan-school-employee-arrested-pedophilia/]</ref>

California trans child molester, 26, gets 2 years in juvenile facility
[https://www.foxnews.com/us/transgender-ca-woman-molesting-sentenced]

Drag queen who counseled children charged with 25 counts of child porn, police say

https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/drag-queen-who-counseled-children-charged-with-25-counts-of-child-porn-police-say-brice-williams-anastasia-diamond

Pennsylvania Drag Queen Who Performed For Children Charged With 25 Counts Of Child Pornography

https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/24/pennsylvania-drag-queen-charges-arrest-child-pornography-brice-patric-ryschon-williams/

Judge who headed 'Drag Queen Story Hour' sponsor arrested on child porn charges

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/milwaukee-brett-blomme-arrested-drag-queen-story-hour-sponsor

Sex Offender Busted as Drag Queen Who Read Books To Children in City Library

https://www.newsweek.com/sex-offender-busted-drag-queen-who-read-book-children-city-library-1365384

Yet Another Drag Queen Arrested For Child Sexual Abuse Images Continue reading Yet Another Drag Queen Arrested For Child Sexual Abuse Images

https://www.womenarehuman.com/yet-another-drag-queen-arrested-for-child-sexual-abuse-images/

Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader Exposed As A Pedophile

https://newspunch.com/second-drag-queen-story-hour-reader-exposed-as-a-pedophile/

THIRD DRAG QUEEN EXPOSED AS SEX CONVICT

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/third-drag-queen-story-hour-library-reader-exposed-as-convicted-sex-offender

Paedophile drag queen arranged to meet father to have sex with his children, 8 and 11, but was caught by police who set up sting operation

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382454/Paedophile-drag-queen-Robert-Clothier-arranged-sex-children-8-11-caught-police-sting.html

Houston Public Library admits registered child sex offender read to kids in Drag Queen Storytime

https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/houston-public-library-admits-registered-child-sex-offender-participated-in-drag-queen-storytime/285-becf3a0d-56c5-4f3c-96df-add07bbd002a

Transgender 'Woman' Convicted of Raping 10-year-old Girl in Restroom

https://www2.cbn.com/news/us/transgender-woman-convicted-raping-10-year-old-girl-restroom

[[Category:Uncategorized]][[Category:Orphan pages]]]

Draft/Trans and Drag Grooming In the West

2023-04-22T15:03:29Z

Mikephshdj:

The purpose of this page is to catalogue all examples and instances of trans and Drag pedophilia and grooming in the USA and other western countries

This is a DRAFT and will be edited as time goes on. It is highly encouraged for members of the community to continue to edit and update this page

And drag grooming refers to the process by which members of the transgender and drag queen and other LGBT community attempt to groom and manipulate underage people into either accepting extremely inappropriate and oftentimes illegal deviancy or even participating in it.

Examples can range from merely teachers or members of the trans community holding events attempting to normalize transgenderism up to attempt to convince children to become transgender by manipulating them and lying to them in an attempt to make them think that they are transgender (hereby referred to as grooming) All the way to extremely inappropriate drag shows where half naked men dance and twerk and perform other sexual gestures directly in front of children sometimes even INCLUDING the children in the performance

According to the Mayo Clinic : "some of these changes aren't reversible or will require surgery to reverse the effects"

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/gender-dysphoria/in-depth/pubertal-blockers/art-20459075

The majority of the rest of this page will simply catalog every instance found of this type of grooming. The examples will range from outright sexual performances in front of children all the way to events attempting to normalize those performances.

Pedophile Grooming Exposed in Dallas Drag Event Involving Children

https://www.newswars.com/pedophile-grooming-exposed-in-dallas-drag-event-involving-children/

The Clinical Steps To Grooming Kids Match Exactly How They’re Being Taught In Schools

https://dailycaller.com/2022/07/29/grooming-schools-education-sexual-abuse-children-transgender-groomer-drag-queen-story-hour/

Michigan Groomer Seems Upset To Be Called A Groomer

https://www.thepiratescove.us/2022/04/21/michigan-groomer-seems-upset-to-be-called-a-groomer/

**WATCH: Drag Queen Pulls Out His Penis In Front Of Kids At ‘Family Friendly Drag Show’**

https://en-volve.com/2022/09/12/watch-drag-queen-pulls-out-his-penis-in-front-of-kids-at-family-friendly-drag-show/

**Pennsylvania Drag Queen Who Performed For Children Charged With 25 Counts Of Child Pornography**

https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/24/pennsylvania-drag-queen-charges-arrest-child-pornography-brice-patric-ryschon-williams/

**Judge who headed 'Drag Queen Story Hour' sponsor arrested on child porn charges**

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/milwaukee-brett-blomme-arrested-drag-queen-story-hour-sponsor

**Paedophile drag queen arranged to meet father to have sex with his children, 8 and 11, but was caught by police who set up sting operation**

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2382454/Paedophile-drag-queen-Robert-Clothier-arranged-sex-children-8-11-caught-police-sting.html

**Second ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ Reader Exposed As A Pedophile**

https://newspunch.com/second-drag-queen-story-hour-reader-exposed-as-a-pedophile/

**Twitter users erupt in outrage after drag queens wearing thongs dance for kids**

https://www.christianpost.com/news/drag-show-for-moms-and-babies-with-men-in-thongs-prompts-outrage.html

**‘Absolutely Revolting’: Footage Of Sexually Explicit Drag Show For Babies, Toddlers Goes Viral**

https://www.dailywire.com/news/absolutely-revolting-footage-of-sexually-explicit-drag-show-for-babies-toddlers-goes-viral

Outrage as Argos sells G-strings for children

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-109621/Outrage-Argos-sells-G-strings-children.html

As stated before this page has a lot of work to be done and it is requested that members of the community please edit and update this page as you see fit in terms of formatting style as well as information being added.

Rachel Levine advocates for 'transing' children, predicts normalization of trans kids

https://www.rebelnews.com/dr_rachel_levine_advocates_for_transing_children_predicts_normalization_of_trans_kids

Many mothers were spotted bringing young children to the sexually explicit Drag Queen Christmas Tour stops in Texas.

https://twitter.com/saragonzalestx/status/1604591203709644800

EXCLUSIVE: Two Survivors Allege They Were “Groomed,” Sexually Exploited By Staff at Scottish LGBT Youth Charity

https://reduxx.info/exclusive-two-survivors-allege-they-were-groomed-sexually-exploited-by-staff-at-scottish-lgbt-youth-charity/

Florida Church Caught Bussing kids to Queer Event/Attempted Secret Gay Prom

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/florida-church-caught-attempting-to-bus-12-year-olds-from-local-schools-for-drag-event.120442/

Duluth Gay Bar Hosts Mama's Toybox/other midwestern drag events for kids thread

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/duluth-nightclub-hosts-mamas-toybox-drag-night-for-kids.120446/

Ankeny Iowa High School Drag Show

http://ttps//kiwifarms.net/threads/drag-show-hits-stage-at-ankeny-high-school-iowa.119777/

Taco Bell Sponsors Drag Brunches for GLBT kid group

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/taco-bell-sponsors-drag-brunches-to-raise-funds-for-lgbt-youth-outreach.120434/

Young Boys Dance for Tips at LA Public Library Sponsored Drag Convention

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/l-a-public-library-sponsors-drag-con-where-young-boys-dance-for-tips.120244/

Preschool Uses Troon/Pregnant Man Flashcards to teach Colors

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/preschool-uses-flash-cards-depicting-pregnant-man-to-teach-colors-north-carolina.120016/

State Farm Donates Troon books to 5 year olds in schools

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/state-farm-donating-transgender-books-for-5-year-olds-to-schools-in-florida.119700/

Philadelphia Schools has drag event for end of year celebration.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1530342906577293312

School Board Member Owns "All Ages" Sex Shop, Hosts Queer Youth Open Mic

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/school-board-director-hosts-queer-youth-open-mic-at-sex-shop.119253/

Top Academic Hosting Child Sexual Abuse Erotica Pushes to Revise WPATH Guidelines

https://reduxx.info/top-academic-behind-fetish-site-hosting-child-sexual-abuse-fantasy-push-to-revise-wpath-guidelines/

[[Category:Uncategorized]][[Category:Orphan pages]]]

Database of LGBT and trans pedophiles

2023-04-22T14:09:31Z

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Draft/Trans and Drag Grooming In the West

2023-03-18T04:04:35Z

Mikephshdj:

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2023-03-17T17:26:30Z

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==[[The Daily Wire]]==
Would you please tell me why you revert my edits to [[The Daily Wire]] page and move them in an inappropriate section despite being clearly inappropriate for said section without giving any explaination, unlike me, and why you blocked the entire page without, again, giving any explaination? {{unsigned}}
:The article talk page is the appropriate place for such discussions. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 13:11, October 22, 2022 (EDT)

[[User:RobSmith|RobS]], you still reverted my edits to the page to your inaccurate version, and again without leaving any explaination, and again you blocked it until the last day of the month. Why are you doing this? Will you please stop? [[User:Republiproud|Republiproud]] ([[User talk:Republiproud|talk]]) 21:12, October 27, 2022 (EDT)

:Please discuss you concerns on the article talk page, and not here. This user talk page is not for content discussions or disputes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 21:18, October 27, 2022 (EDT)

I can't from my phone, and my computer is to be fixed. Why can't you just tell me here why? It's getting pretty annoying and I don't even get to know why. I feel fooled around. [[User:Republiproud|Republiproud]] ([[User talk:Republiproud|talk]]) 21:20, October 27, 2022 (EDT)

:Go here [[Talk:The Daily Wire]] and make a record of your objections, complaints, or grievances. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 22:14, October 27, 2022 (EDT)

==Happy 2023!!!==
(I hope it's OK I updated my things in here)

May this year be a year of peace, of prosperity, of happiness.

May this year be a year of improvement in all aspects, to all.

Many thanks to you, the exceptional/special RobS.

May God Bless this greatest land on earth.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 22:31, January 1, 2023 (EST)

:Amen. Happy New Year to you and God bless you too, my brother. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 22:56, January 1, 2023 (EST)

==Img==

(1) Is there a way of editing the image file name itself? (2) How secure is the uploading feature, as far as privacy, login info etc.?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:To change the File name needs the Move function, which me or LT can do (alternatively, you can re-upload with the new File name, and I can delete the old file).
:What is the correct File name you want to use?
:Secondly, I'm unaware of privacy or security problems and have been using it for 15 years (originally, all editors automatically received upload rights, but trolls started uploading porno. So it's a restricted privilege now). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:33, December 20, 2022 (EST)
::Thanks. Very helpful.|When you get a chance, at [https://kvia.com/news/2022/12/20/watch-migrants-crawl-into-el-paso-through-hole-cut-into-fence-along-border-highway/ clip], to grab a screenshot of Biden's border policies... only when/if time allows.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::You know, I live in Albuquerque, 160 mi from El Paso. And for years there has been an underground railway operating. It is collusion between church and state. The city (with federal funds) contracts out a homeless shelter to a Southern Methodist church. The shelter is the first stop along the underground railway. The illegals spend a night, no questions asked, and move on to their next destination (Denver, Amarillo, or Flagstaff).
:::I should mention, the city operates it directly itself now, cause the church backed out when Obama demanded transgenders be given the right to shower and sleep in the men's, women's or family section of their choosing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:48, December 22, 2022 (EST)

::::[https://www.conservapedia.com/File:El_Paso_Dec_2022.PNG Done.] I had to watch it 3 times to get the full gist of what's going on. There is the river flowing in the background. Virtually all are barefoot to make it up the steep embankment with a rope made of bedsheets, it looks like. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 19:07, December 22, 2022 (EST)
::::Your patience is inspiring, kudos to you.
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This [https://twitter.com/MEMRIReports/status/1605525836257325056] is not about uploading an image, just sharing a "vision" by the so-called "freedom fighters", quite telling and so "impressive" in this season of giving...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
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[https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Mufti's_fault_also_in_Slavs'_tensions.jpeg This] infamous guy is still at fault for this current
[https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/serbian-troops-on-high-alert-over-kosovo-tensions/ar-AA15H2cC]. So wrote earlier (even radical) liberal author Fisk.

Happy Blessed New Year![[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 01:39, December 27, 2022 (EST)

:Hey, thank you. You too, Happy New Year.

:Your research and timing is extraordinary. All these country articles in CP begin as cut n pastes from the CIA World Fact Book, which too often is pure fiction (like the original [[Iran]], [[China]], and [[Ukraine]] articles). Then it takes time to rehab them. [[Serbia]] looks like next on my plate. This certainly belongs in an expanded History section, which has nothing about WWII other than a paragraph or two buried in text outside the History section.

:Didn't both Hitler and Himmler both say at different times, words to the effect of, "I'm not personally religious. But if I were, I'd be a Muslim," or something like that? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 04:59, December 27, 2022 (EST)

::True, they expressed sympathy for Islam (Alex Speer sources, etc. And [https://www.wsj.com/articles/book-review-ataturk-in-the-nazi-imagination-by-stefan-ihrig-and-islam-and-nazi-germanys-war-by-david-motadel-1421441724 here]), and as they were about power,
in order to achieve their Nazi goals they made "concessions" at times, like taking in "Honorary aryans"...for strategic reasons - after hesitancy. Nevertheless, the Mufti, asides from long impact in the Middle East, on the European front, specifically about the Slavs, al-Husseini, with his dream of becoming the Fuhrer of the Islam world, he left such lasting impact damage in such critical historic events.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
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Q, Can you do the same with this [https://www.nli.org.il/en/newspapers/cgs/1937/05/27/01/article/83/]? AKA, image out of that specific piece?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

:[https://www.conservapedia.com/File:%e2%81%a8%e2%81%a8The_Sentinel%e2%81%a9,_27_May_1937.PNG Went a little faster that time]. The resolution isn't good. It still loads a bit slow from that site. I'll wait a little longer next time to see if the resolution improves. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:37, December 29, 2022 (EST)
::Cheers. I used the current file you made, in case you update it, it will show.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 13:44, December 29, 2022 (EST)

:::I found these two items from [[Warsaw]] in 1937 interesting. [https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Reports_from_Warsaw_27_May_1937.PNG] Of course, Poland is always painted as the victim in U.S. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 17:54, December 30, 2022 (EST)
::::Yes, it's in that PDF. Facts? Poland and Ukraine, were not on the Good side in WW2 - by in large. Though, both suffered from the Nazis still. Q. Is there a way to delete [https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Socialist-Arab-Al-Ittihad-praises-celebrares-Nazi-Mufti-June-23-1946.jpg this] for its typo, while [https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Socialist-Arab-Al-Ittihad-praises-celebrates-Nazi-Mufti-June-23-1946.jpg this] fixed one should stay?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::::Done (the second one isn't linked to any mainspace article page yet, so I hope you don't forget).

:::::As to Poland and Ukraine, have you seen any Agnieszka Holland's films yet, like ''Europa, Europa'' or ''In Darkness''? They are about the only two major motion pictures I can think of that come close to telling the real story. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:32, January 5, 2023 (EST)
::::::Thanks. I wasn't able to fix that. As far as films, EuropaEuropa, ages ago.. But more of an impact, directly hearing from survivors themselves, as a kid.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 00:43, January 5, 2023 (EST)
:::::::Great film. ''In darkness'' (2010, I think?) is <s>somewhat autobiographical</s>, about her hiding out in Lvov sewers as a young girl.
:::::::It was convenient for everyone after WWII to blame Germany for everything, especially for the guilty parties in France, Poland, Ukraine, Hungary and elsewhere. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:45, January 5, 2023 (EST)
::::::::Scratch that. She was born in 1948, but has done interviews with survivors. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:51, January 5, 2023 (EST)
:::::::::I hear you. I didn't see that one. I think, per film, the first ever I saw was probably Claude Lanzmann's 1985 Shoah. As far as blaming Germany, to be true to history, Nazi Germany set it all into motion, it then opened the pandora box, bad actors taking advantage on the singled out defenseless scapegoat. Yet, some of the atrocious conectration camps guards were Ukrainian, Asides from massacres on that land. Nor would have been able to have 6 million (Eichmann was the put out that figure) killed without locals' help, such as the Poles, where the largest Jewish population had lived pre WW2. Again, Nazi propaganda spread all over the world, including the US (in the Middle East via F. Grobba and Von Schirach), but more especially in Europe. Which is again the guilty no.1. In that. AKA demonization which leads to 'rationalized' victimization.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 04:30, January 8, 2023 (EST)

::::::::::Shoah is one of those films I make a point of watching again every couple of years, or at least certain sections, it's so big. As to Europe I'm thinking of France. France did more for the German war effort than it did to defend itself. Americans in particular have a completely distorted view of France's role in the war. Here's the trailer for ''[https://youtu.be/nb2TyPfxaQU In Darkness]''. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 05:25, January 8, 2023 (EST)
:::::::::::I read once how conniving the Nazi agents duped the French... How Vichy succeeded. Yet, There were some serious heroic partisan-groups there (as well as in under-equipped-Poland). BTW, the French immigrants here, De Gaulle loyalists - ex soldiers, were the powerful lobby in the US for intervention...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 10:42, January 8, 2023 (EST)
::::::::::::The role of the Paris police cooperation of with the gestapo is finally being told. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:31, January 8, 2023 (EST)
:::::::::::::"[https://www.france24.com/en/20180919-depth-french-police-collaboration-with-nazis-revealed The Germans were not asking for the Jews who lived in the Vichy-controlled part of France to be handed to them]," This parallels with the Ukrainians during WW 2, in a way, sadly. And I included once those that stood out as organized collaboration (Norwegians had Vidkun Quisling, the Belgians had Leon Degrelle, the Dutch the Waffen-SS unit, the largest outside Germany, the Ukrainians Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych, the Russians General Andrey Andreyevich Vlasov etc.) Many levels existed on individual basis. Some helped the Gestapo out of fear for their own, but some did it out of malice + exchange of favors and some went that far to collaborate without any expected compensation. Whereas on the good side - in Eastern Europe there were the Serbs, Albanians and others. | Re Western Europe, if judging in a sweeping pen (save for [https://www.yadvashem.org/righteous.html the righteous]), the [[Denmark|Danes]] and the [[Sweden|Swedes]] stood out in kindness abd at the time. Next to them, many levels down, were the Dutch.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 15:58, January 8, 2023 (EST)
::::::::::::::Hungary is another example. Unreported in the US (most likely due to anti-Soviet propaganda of the period) was, Hungary actually was treated more harshly than Germany. While Germany was partitioned into 4 occupation zones, Hungary was split in half in both population and territory. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:48, January 8, 2023 (EST)
==Biden+==

I hope [[Biden's classified documents scandal|this]] is OK.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 18:05, January 12, 2023 (EST)

:Looks real good (we can do Page Moves and Redirects later as things develop). This ain't going away, and will run through the lifetime of the [[118th Congress]] and remainder of Biden's term. So there's pages right now carrying the story: [[Biden's classified documents scandal]], [[Joe Biden]], and [[118th Congress]].

:Early reports were the docs related to Ukraine and China, so [[Merrick Garland]] threw a bag over Congressional investigators with the appointment of a Special Counsel. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:33, January 12, 2023 (EST)

::Right on. It will become even bigger if he still runs in 2024...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
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Pick, choose which image you would like to download for the Biden scandal page...[https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1613676690495913987/F1SEvp6L?format=jpg&name=small],[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmT-HmGWYAEwhnS?format=jpg&name=small],[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmYzdIpXgAIsk3X?format=jpg&name=small],[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmW6u12XkAAQYdz?format=jpg&name=small]...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::eeew, tuff call. I like the Garage sale one, but the [[New York Post]] also highlights the fact that this is an [[MSM]] story, and not a fringe [[conspiracy theory]]. So the ''Post'' looks good. You gonna do it, or should I? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 19:00, January 14, 2023 (EST)
::::you do these better..[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::::[https://www.conservapedia.com/File:Garagegate2.PNG Done]. It was jfif file (whatever that is). I had to do a screen shot. 19:36, January 14, 2023 (EST)
:::::Good job.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:34, January 14, 2023 (EST)
==The pressure..==
As much as it avoids taking sides, on top of some in Biden's administration. pressure, now Ukraine is [https://www.timesofisrael.com/ukraine-said-to-demand-israel-denounce-russia-ahead-of-visit-by-foreign-minister/ pushing] too...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

:I can see the medical treatment of soldiers and a half hearted denunciation of violence in exchange for a photo op, but $500 million and the Iron Dome is about as likely as Russia withdrawing from the Crimea. Zelensky &Biden's days are numbered, and Bibi will survive all of them. Is Zelensky really that popular in Israel? When he flees Ukraine with his looted millions, he's likely to go to Italy or Fort Lauderdale, not Israel where he has a home too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 02:18, February 6, 2023 (EST)
::I had hopes for peace, in the days of Bennet mediating there at the early days of the war.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::The US tries to [[blackmail]] countries to support its position by withholding aid. It didn't work with Israel and others. Now the US is trying to slowly wash its hands of Ukraine without acknowledging defeat. Zelensky thinks (or bluffs) that he still has pull with the US; but what does Ukraine have that Israel wants or needs? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 03:03, February 6, 2023 (EST)
::::A side note. For all the propaganda labeling Putin a "hitler," by in large, people in thay country, as far as I know, do not see him as an enemy of the Jews. And I never know of anything against an ethnic group he ranted. One can define him in all negative terms but not a "Hitler." he is about power. Not about hate.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::::Russia is not immune - it has its own antisemitism problem. But Putin's a guy who will come down hard on any organized group that triers to spread it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:04, February 6, 2023 (EST)

:::::[https://korybko.substack.com/p/alt-media-is-speechless-after-syria Alt-Media Is Speechless After Syria Reportedly Requested Quake Aid From Israel Via Russia].
::::::Of course the oldest-known-bigotry exists there too. But I agree that Putin is against that. Re the interesting link you quoted about Syria, the lying Syrians were quick to deny it...of course as their politics dictate. BTW, Israel is said to have sent humanitarian aid to Syria and Turkey. [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::::::Yah, I need a link about Israeli humanitarian aid so I can update main page headlines. Do you have a good source? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:54, February 6, 2023 (EST)
::::::::Here is a link- [https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-730717 Israel to give Syria earthquake assistance, Netanyahu says. A senior IDF official denied any government intention to send aid to Syria. (JPost, Feb 6, 2023). "KAN said in an unsourced report that Russia had relayed the request for Israel to assist Syria."]. Here is another - [https://www.jewishpress.com/news/middle-east/syria/israel-to-send-aid-to-syria-after-request-relayed-via-russia/2023/02/06/ Israel to Send Earthquake Aid to Syria After Request Relayed via Russia February 6, 2023]
Tip, even when receiving the aid, the Syrians won't admit... besides the fact that the victims are not pro Assad... BTW, In general, these two are good sources about Israel:
https://www.Jns.org ,
https://www.israelnationalnews.com .[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 21:50, February 6, 2023 (EST)

:Thanks, gonna use all of them. But do you really think Syria can hide Israeli aid from the public?This could be a turning point....

:If we can keep articles updated, then I can direct traffic to it from the Main Page for the latest information. "Narrative engineering", as they call it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 22:55, February 6, 2023 (EST)

:Actually, it may make sense to test out, on a limited basis, the Iron Dome against Russia's latest missiles, which it's never faced, for upgrades in any vulnerabilities (even the Russians would be interested in this information.) So supplying a limited number of launchers that wouldn't make an overall difference wouldn't necessarily mean Israel has chosen sides. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 23:20, February 6, 2023 (EST)
::This is how weapons development works. Iron Dome is designed to face missile of 1970s and 1980s design (likely originally Soviet, later copied by Iranians). In 10 years time, Iron Dome will be facing Russian designed Kinzhals and Kaslibrs copied by Iranians as the technology gets out from its use in Ukraine now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 23:27, February 6, 2023 (EST)

:::Also, there are different types of threats Ukraine faces, missiles, then you have the Iranian drones...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

::::In many ways, Iron Dome is becoming outdated , and either needs an upgrade, or another whole new system needs to be developed. A system needs to be developed to defend against low cost drone swarms that fly at extremely low altitude, say 30 ft off the ground, beneath the radar. Israel has an urgent need to work on this.
::::The radar to detect a low altitude swarm attack, as well as an equally cost-efficient means to intercept the swarms is urgently needed. This is the future of modern warfare. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 09:51, February 7, 2023 (EST)

::::The 2019 drone swarm attack on the Saudi oil refinery from Yemen highlighted this problem. It won't be long before Israeli faces a drone swarm attack from Gaza. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 09:59, February 7, 2023 (EST)
:::::Saw the attack [https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/iran-says-drone-attack-targeted-a-defense-factory-in-city-of-isfahan drone factory] in Iran last week? [https://www.ynetnews.com/article/syecy1hno Mossad behind drone strike on Iran factory, U.S. officials say][[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
::::::Yah, I'm not sure what happened. There's conflicting reports on everything, how many locations, who was involved (France? US?). The only thing that seems to be agreed on is Israel attacked one location. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:19, February 7, 2023 (EST)
:::::::"Isfahan is a major center of missile production, research, and development for Iran, including the assembly of many of its Shahab medium-range missiles, which can reach Israel and beyond."

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==Poland and the Holocaust==
There is now a storm over 'Polish history-rewriting' campaign for about a decade to distort the Holocaust at Wikipedia. [https://www.ynetnews.com/article/hksrnqlts Wikipedia 'intentionally' distorts history of the Holocaust, study claims]. Q. Would Nazi Germany be able to carry out Auchwitz deaths that easily without Poles' help? In contrast to Germany, Poland, overall does not show repentance. Which explains their [https://www.adl.org/resources/press-release/adl-urges-polands-president-reject-law-criminalizing-polish-holocaust terrible law] [https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/06/27/polands-holocaust-law-caused-an-outcry-now-in-a-surprise-its-being-largely-reversed/ facing global outcry]. Hence how Polish rewriters and their helpers among neo-Nazis have been on a relentless campaign how to make up "facts," so to blame the victims.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 17:22, February 16, 2023 (EST)

:::::::Yes, this has for a longtime been an issue and problem, which now is manifesting itself in the NATO alliance and Ukraine war. Poland has been portrayed in Western media since 1939 as the "victim", nevermind all the Polish collaborators with either the Nazis or the communists during the war, and Polish communist collaborators with the USSR up until 1991. They're always painted as innocent bystanders who were trampled on.

:::::::Now they're taking their revenge against both the Russians and the Germans in this Great Power fantasy game they're playing, enabled by the UK and US by making themselves indispensable to NATO.

:::::::Remember when Obama talked about his white uncle who liberated a Polish death camp? Poland passed a law afterward making talk like that [[hate speech]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 17:23, February 16, 2023 (EST)

::::::::I remember vividly hearing survivors stories....sure, there were some heroes, but the bad ones were so many.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 07:55, February 17, 2023 (EST)

:::::::::In the ''Shoah'' film, there was the part about the Polish farmer who worked a field right up against the camp. In fact, I'm going to search YouTube for that segment right now, [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 08:06, February 17, 2023 (EST)

:::::::::Never mind that. Just start [https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Shoah+poland scrolling down and look] at some of the results here. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 08:14, February 17, 2023 (EST)

::::::::::Here's a recent piece -[https://time.com/6208257/poland-ministry-of-memory-war-holocaust-history/ Some Poles Collaborated With the Nazis. But Poland’s ‘Ministry of Memory’ Wants People To Forget], Time, Feb 6, 2022.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 16:34, February 22, 2023 (EST)

:::::::::::Bingo. Is there anything there we can add to [[History_of_Poland]] now? I have a feeling we can use it in other places in short order. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:42, February 22, 2023 (EST)

==East Palestine, OH==
Any added imput you can....[https://www.conservapedia.com/Pete_Buttigieg#Scandals Pete_Buttigieg - Scandals]... thanks. (On a humourous side, days ago it was floating around a satire that Ilhan Omar said she "stopped" being involved in Palestine since she heard it's in the US...).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

:Ok. That articles needs a bit of restructuring. It's about his term as mayor and ideological views, and has virtually nothing about his term as Trans. Sec. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:30, February 23, 2023 (EST)
::Will try to split it. Thanks.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::Thanks for a great job.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 16:48, February 23, 2023 (EST)

::::ok, I'm just about done trying to re-organize the subsections. If you want, can you go through the lengthy Intro and cull-out some of the less timely stuff and move it to the subsection where it belongs. Then we can use the Intro for more current issues and news, leaving some space for future stuff, as we haven't heard the last from him yet. Thanks [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:54, February 23, 2023 (EST)
:::::Will try. Meantime, when ypu have the time, see how this [https://twitter.com/wokal_distance/status/1628468145072603137?s=20 woke activist]' is shocked...[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 17:23, February 23, 2023 (EST)

::::::Yah, that show is hilarious. Like Susan Malveaux whose ancestors were Black and slave owners, or the Jewish guy (I forget his name, a comedian) whose great grandfather was a Confederate captain. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 17:35, February 23, 2023 (EST)
:::::::Yea, I also saw how David Duchovny was emotional (on Feb 13. Aired Feb 14). How his grandparents suffered... BTW, I did a bit of reconstructing MayorPete. It can use improving.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 18:20, February 23, 2023 (EST)
:::::::Ok, I'm going to move the ==Covid== subsection as a sub-subsection of Trans. Sec. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 19:05, February 23, 2023 (EST)
==CNN?==
This statement of a supposed [https://deadline.com/2023/02/cnn-gop-david-zaslav-praises-trategy-warner-bros-discovery-1235269314/ change] is still a 'wait and see' , if there is a real change there for 'variety' of opinion as claimed. [[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 01:26, February 24, 2023 (EST)
:Yah, controlled opposition and voices like [[David Brooks]] are a dime a dozen.

:CBS has made some efforts, actually, over the past several years. While CBS may have repeated a lot of [[Russiagate]] narratives, generally I can't think of an instance where they [[collude]]d to create one. They still generally toe the Democrat line, however. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 01:43, February 24, 2023 (EST)

:Brooks is great example; generally a "conservative" acceptable to the ''NYT'', PBS, etc is a guy who likes to eat in New York and Washington restaurants without being accosted by lunatics, so he never says anything controversial to get them riled up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 01:48, February 24, 2023 (EST)
==Covid origin - final==
[https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/26/us/politics/china-lab-leak-coronavirus-pandemic.html NYT Feb 26, 2023] ''Lab Leak Most Likely Caused Pandemic, Energy Dept. Says. The conclusion, which was made with “low confidence,” came as America’s intelligence agencies remained divided over the origins of the coronavirus. (The Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2021...)'' - Remeber the onslaught on Trump - daring to call it Wuhan virus?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 23:16, February 26, 2023 (EST)
:By my estimation it took about 48 hrs from CNN calling it the Wuhan virus to CNN labeling it "racist" after Trump used the term. I could probably document it with diffs. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 23:31, February 26, 2023 (EST)
::Indeed.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

==Plan worked==
This [https://redstate.com/streiff/2022/11/29/trumps-meeting-with-kanye-was-planned-to-make-trumps-life-miserable-and-the-plan-worked-n666153] hurts the GOP as a whole. It puts conservatives on the defensive. If 2017-Charlottesville helped the Dems....[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]]) 01:20, December 2, 2022 (EST)
:Apparently. The whole story is bizarre. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:38, December 2, 2022 (EST)

==Iran / Saudi-Arabia & Biden==

Behind Iran-Saudi case: (1) China playing global power, especially in face of Biden. It comes after (2) Saudi friction with Biden. Negotiations began right after he took office. (Based mainly on analysis by ME expert
[https://twitter.com/kaisos1987/status/1634263463823572993][https://twitter.com/kann_news/status/1634268667117551616]).[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:Thanks. We've definitely reached a turning point in the post-1945 world order. And the whole world sees and knows (everybody, except Americans. Wer're always the last to know anything). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 17:04, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
:I can understand Israel's apprehensions. But it also means Saudi Arabia can have some influence with Iran. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 17:19, March 12, 2023 (EDT)
::very possibly. The latest ([https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-arabia-seeks-u-s-security-pledges-nuclear-help-for-peace-with-israel-cd47baaf Mar 9]) is, they demand some defense assurances, as they still do not trust Iran, after all.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:::They seemed to be giving it a few months test...[https://www.jpost.com/international/article-734068].[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

== Jane...==
Have you seen Jane Fonda's threats[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUMHUKK2KJM WATCH: Jane Fonda Proposes MURDERING Pro-Lifers As 'The View' Hosts SCRAMBLE To Laugh It Off]?[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:Thanks. I heard about it but hadn't seen the clip. I'm going to us it on MPR. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:54, March 14, 2023 (EDT)
::Thanks, TheView laughed about it but Jane seemed serious about it.[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
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BTW, I hope the US drone hit by Russia, won't lead to escalating between the two..[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])
:The drone was $135 million. I doubt the US will fly anymore like that. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:45, March 14, 2023 (EDT)

:DeSantis just changed his position into not intervening in Ukraine... and drew ire from some GOP..[[User:Telling|Telling]] ([[User talk:Telling|talk]])

::Today's WaPo marks a turning point. For the first time they admitted Ukraine has more than 120,000 dead (while keeping the bs about 200,000 Russian dead and 97% of their forces committed). But it's a start, members of Congress know they cannot deny the reality of the failure of US policy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:12, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

::The drone incident shouldn't be looked at in isolation - it's a limited reprisal action for the sinking of the ''Moskva'' with loss of life. And it couples with the Kinzhal strike on NATO below ground headquarters in Lvov, killing 40, is a reprisal for the NATO/US directed assassination killings of Russian generals. NATO/US is due a few more reprisal actions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:19, March 15, 2023 (EDT)
:::I predict, thuis will be a major case in the primary...

::::Funny, how the US public just went through a UFO panic. A few days ago the US did a dummy run toward St. Petersberg with a [[Stratofortress]] training for a nuke strike on civilians. And about two weeks ago `hackers got into TV stations in Moscow and St. Petersburg broadcasting missile alerts. So there's obviously a [[psyop]] going on, conducted by the US, against the Russian population.

::::You're talking about the war, I presume, as a primary issue. A year from now it'll be a completely different world we live in. The Zelensky regime might not last that long. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 14:32, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

==SVB==

Seen this opinion piece in WSJ?
{{Cquote|“Was there regulatory failure? Perhaps. [[SVB]] was regulated like a bank but looked more like a money-market fund. Then there’s this: In its proxy statement, SVB notes that besides 91 percent of their board being independent and 45 percent women, they also have ‘1 Black,’ ‘1 LGBTQ+,’ and ‘2 Veterans.’ I’m not saying 12 white men would have avoided this mess, but the company may have been distracted by diversity demands.”
[https://www.wsj.com/articles/who-killed-silicon-valley-bank-interest-rates-treasury-federal-reserve-ipo-loan-long-term-bond-capital-securities-startup-jpmorgan-bear-stearns-lehman-brothers-b9ca2347]}}
:Well, yah. But this is the world of the future. Each generation has to learn on its own. This transgenderism kinda reminds me of hippie culture. Maybe they'll out grow it eventually.... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 14:22, March 15, 2023 (EDT)

== quick request ==

Please check your email. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:49, September 22, 2022 (EDT

[[User:RobSmith|RobS]], Will you stop it, please?! You can't block a page after the first edit from the end of the last block happened 18 days ago, for unknown reasons! Stop reverting my edits to the [[Democratic Party]] article, that are far from the lie (and I even tried to compromise) and then blocking the article just a moment later for days! What's the problem?! Do I have to consider this abuse of power if not even [[liberal censorship]]?! [[User:Republiproud|Republiproud]] ([[User talk:Republiproud|talk]]) 13:27, September 24, 2022 (EDT)
:[[Talk:Democratic_Party#Political_Ideology]] is the appropriate place to handle your concerns. Create an extended sub-subhead to continue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 14:09, September 24, 2022 (EDT

== Invitation to a debate page on the conflict in Ukraine ==

Instead of using the main page talk page for debating the conflict in Ukraine between Russia and the Kieve regime, I thought it would be better to have a centralized debate page.

You are invited to the debate page at: [[Debate: Will Russia or the Kiev regime prevail in the conflict in Ukraine?]]

I also sent an invitation to [[User:ConwayIII]] since you two are the ones who will debate most on this issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:41, October 7, 2022 (EDT)

Enjoy the debate. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:42, October 7, 2022 (EDT)

:I dunno; debating you or Conway is kinda like debating Joe Biden on the subject of nuclear war, and none of you are in control of your faculties. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 17:21, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:I think you totally, totally misunderstand the situation. I am not a "fan" or "cheerleader". I am not a prognosticator, either. I am a chronicler of factual history. You don't seem to understand the basis of the conflict, or its course of events. But you do seem to have a penchant for swallowing globalist propaganda wholesale. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 17:27, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:War is not a debate; and you seem oblivious how this war has affected your own life. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 17:29, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::I deleted the debate. When you ignore/deny Putin's corruption/authoritarianism and Russian atrocities and other matters, you become a cheerleader. The Russian/Ukrainian societies are nothing to write home about and both of them are headed for decline. Most of Russia's cultural achievements are in the past. In terms of finances, I am in pretty recession-proof industries and I deliver high ROI to the people I do work for so I don't expect this war to affect me much in the short term. The war will affect Europe the most and Europe/USA influence each other. Like Brexit helped give Trump some additional wind in his back in 2016. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:53, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::Fine. None of that has anything to do with the conflict. If Putin dropped dead tomorrow the conflict will continue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 18:25, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::You seem to think Putin is responsible for everything, and if Putin were removed, there would be peace. You have been brainwashed by Western propaganda (again, go back and read the Snowden files.) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 18:35, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::I do not doubt for an instant that you believed Trump colluded with Russia for two solid years, given the quality of information sources you rely on. And you do not see the link between Snowden's release of documentation on information war, the Trump-Russia collision hoax, and what has happened in Ukraine since 2014. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 18:40, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::I agree. Russian society/culture is not going to radically change after Putin loses power. And I never believed in the Russian-collusion hoax. And I do know that the CIA/NGOs can instigate and/or help cause revolutions such as the Orange Revolution. At the same time, historical research indicates that unmet societal expectations/instability (social/economic instablity) are the fuel of revolutions. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:23, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::The CIA is fomenting the unrest in Teheran right now, in Yerevan, in Thailand, in Belarus, and even in open, free, democratic Russia itself among other places. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 19:43, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Since the end of the Cold War, communism moved Westward. It always had a base in the West. The social unrest in the United States in the 1960s was Kremlin directed. Russia today has no organized global reach with Communist parties all over the world that it had prior to 1991. The West through its various NGOs and other vehicles, including a vast media/propaganda apparatus, does have such a reach. And it is dominated by the same nihilistic Leftist ideology that dominated the Soviet Union and Comintern, using much the same revolutionary organizational techniques. The CIA owes much to the KGB, which essentially was its schoolmaster. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 19:52, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
:::::Like the USSR did during its whole existence, the CIA looks for hot spots of social unrest (what you describe above as "unmet societal expectations/instability") to exploit. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 19:57, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
::::::<aside>by "nihilistic Leftist ideology" I am not talking about anti-capitalist ideology. I am referring to undemocratic totalitarian rule by a governing elite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 20:05, October 7, 2022 (EDT)

::::::Knocking down the border checkpoints between Russia and Donbas is fraught with problems and risks; it is easier for a Ukrainian terrorist now to infiltrate into Russia. And NATO has made it clear, with its US funding, that terrorism, sabotage, and assassination are on the table as a "legitimate" weapon of war. Just wait for the reprisals in what appears to be a decades long Cold War unfolding. As I said earlier, the CIA is a student of the KGB. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 20:21, October 7, 2022 (EDT)

::::::The First Chechen war 1993-95, not two years after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, was a US-financed proxy war. So the bad faith exhibited by the United States, NATO, and the West has been apparent since day one of the end of the Cold War. Every Russian schoolchild knows this. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 20:37, October 7, 2022 (EDT)
== Phil Gramm video ==

*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6hMHAGr74 Senator Phil Gramm: Why American inequality is a myth] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:31, October 7, 2022 (EDT)

==Spam emails about reset password==
[[User:Kirikagure|Kirikagure]] ([[User talk:Kirikagure|talk]]) 13:20, October 10, 2022 (EDT) Hello i keep getting spam emails from conservapedia that someone requested a "password change" from my account even though i did not, and the emails send me a temporary passwort,i got 6 of them already and not sure what to do

:It's a Ukrainian bot attack. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 03:10, October 10, 2022 (EDT)

==Quick Deletion Request==
The article https://www.conservapedia.com/Southern_Middle_School uses copyrighted content on its page, I request that it must be deleted. {{unsigned}}
:Ok. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 17:00, October 11, 2022 (EDT)

==Another deletion request==
This article also contains copyrighted content [[Nighthawk Email Hackings]], I verify this from this website
https://en.everybodywiki.com/Nighthawk ***check history of page***

Thank You :)

==Can I Change My Profile Name?==
I have been wondering for a LONG time if i can, So can i?...{{unsigned}}
:I think so. You have to ask Aschlafly. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 02:50, October 20, 2022 (EDT)

== Thank you for cleaning up Mabatt's mess ==

Glad to see that admins/sysops can undo damage like that. I feared it could be potentially unfixable, hence my message to Andy (which you can see on his talk page).

On another note, I'm curious. Has something like that happened before? If not, what happened over the last hour could be a candidate for the most outrageous trolling/vandalism incident in CP history.--[[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 00:37, October 25, 2022 (EDT)
:Yes, we've had incidents like this before. The user is old school, registered in 2007. I've gotten to know many of them quite well. Some are even WikiMedia developers or WP Admin who use CP to test out their latest software codes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 00:42, October 25, 2022 (EDT)
::When I say, "know them quite well," that is to say, "I know who you. I know where you work. I know where you live. I know who you wife and kids are, and where they go to school," and "Don't bother me." [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 00:54, October 25, 2022 (EDT)

== An article request ==

I have an article request. Consider creating the article: [[Corruption in Ukraine]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:16, October 26, 2022 (EDT)
:Wow. That would be a full time job, as well. I got several source pieces. I could begin with the [[Zelensky]] article and virtually just move it to a new title, but that would be working backwards. The question is, ''How did we get here?'' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 12:52, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

::This is why Ukronazis want to be part of [[the West]] so bad, with gay marriage and transgenderism, it normalizes their corrupt system and society. Nobody in the West will condemn them (as you can see already). We're living in the days of Lot. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 13:07, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

::After 1991, [[Putin]] brought the corrupt, unrestrained capitalist [[oligarch]]s (like [[Deripaska]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Kk7kobMQY</ref>) under control of the government; in Ukraine, the corrupt oligarchs took complete control of the government (like [[Kolomoisky]], the Jewish oligarch who hired Nazi gangs to guard his businesses cause there is virtually no functional judicial system or law enforcement). "Democracy" in Ukraine since the end of Soviet rule really means "chaos" and "lawlessness", just like we have now in the West. What exists of the "judicial system" only exists for those who get crosswise with the powers that be, i.e. NATO stooges and puppets.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 13:20, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

::[https://youtu.be/mvvYH6oCF54?t=4004 Watch this], or read this:
:In a monologue to a comedy show aired April 12, 2014 shortly after the [[Maidan regime]] seized power, Zelensky read an Imaginary letter to his family back home:
{{quotebox-float|"Good Day Uncle Igor, Aunt Valya and Uncle Sasha. Despite your fears, I can tell you that I live well as far as I live. Soon it will be even better. Because it's been three weeks since I was accepted into the [[Bandera]] community. That's normal, otherwise you can't make a career here in Ukraine. However, I don't have to tell you that, because you know it yourself. I don't get a salary, but that's not the most important thing. We have been allowed to take money and wealth from the Russians. In the past, this was also possible with the Jews. But then the top Bandera supporter Kolomoisky came and banned stealing money from the Jews.

For example, I'm learning [[English]] now, so as not to forget Russian. American [[mercenaries]], who are here for us every step of the way, help me. You know what? I got married for the second time, he is Wadik. For us [[European]]s this is quite normal. Today, our President, [[Barack Obama]], promised all the most important thing for us, that we will soon join NATO. For the time being, of course, we are the property of America. If it is possible, please send me [[Hitler]]'s book '[[Mein Kampf]]', because that's how everything is done down here. I take care of in the morning to go to the balcony and do morning exercises. From my heart to the sun, so. But I don't have to tell you, because you know it yourself."<ref>https://youtu.be/jIA-38WgpnQ</ref><ref>https://www.kla.tv/22511</ref>}}
::How can a separate article be of any use, since Westerners regard all this as quite normal? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 13:30, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

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== DIANs ==

Why you deleted DIANs category? --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 15:48, October 26, 2022 (EDT)
:Yes. It was redundant to RINO and only used as an attack category. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 16:02, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

I think its for different purpose. A Republican can be a RINO but not necessary voting like Democrat
Politicians like Mitch McConnel and Pat Toomey
but Politicians like Adam Kinzinger and Mitt Romney they are not only RINO but they are another level DIANs (Democrat in all but name) --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:07, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

:It would not apply to an elected official who voted for a Republican leader in either House. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 23:19, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

:People like [[Jim Jeffords]] or [[Bernie Sanders]] are so marginal, they don't need their own category. It would be misused again redundantly to attack people. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Ich bin ein breakfast taco]] 23:23, October 26, 2022 (EDT)

==Please delete this page==
[[Brain damage]]. Thank you! [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 18:44, October 27, 2022 (EDT)

== Election fraud template ==

Please add [[Fernando Cerimedo]] to the election fraud template.--[[User:CatolicoAustral|CatolicoAustral]] ([[User talk:CatolicoAustral|talk]]) 20:15, November 6, 2022 (EST)
:Done. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 20:22, November 6, 2022 (EST)

== Attacks on this website ==

I have a feeling that the latest attacks on this website are related to your criticisms of the corrupt country of Ukraine. Lately, liberals/leftists care more about the territorial/border integrity of Ukraine than the territorial/border integrity of the United States. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:24, November 9, 2022 (EST)
:Lately? We've known that for a year and half since [[Tulsi Gabbard]] went on [[Tucker Carlson]] to discuss the war in April of 2021 three months after the [[Biden junta]] took power and the [[Biden border crisis]] was big news. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 22:35, November 9, 2022 (EST)

== Polls vs. political betting websites. Which are more accurate? Also, there is a political betting websites aggregator website that has a good track record ==

There is good evidence that politcal betting websites are more accurate than political polling.

Henceforth, I will use political betting websites, such as [https://electionbettingodds.com/ ElectionBettingOdds.com], instead of pollsters, when I want to forecast elections.

The website ElectionBettingOdds.com averages live odds that it pulls from FTX.com, Betfair.com, PredictIt.org, Smarkets.com, and Polymarket.com. The odds are then volume-weighted, meaning that the odds for each market are multiplied by that market's share of quarterly volume.[https://electionbettingodds.com/about.html]

The website ElectionBettingOdds.com has a respectable track record in terms of accuracy as can be seen at: [https://electionbettingodds.com/TrackRecord.html Track Record - Election Betting Odds], 2022 [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:00, November 11, 2022 (EST)

== Small request ==

I have a small request.

I recently had an injury that I fully recovered from, but it left me with a lot of backlogged work to do. I have a few off-wiki projects that are going to take me about 70 hours complete on top of my full-time work that I have already. In addition, I have some material I want to study that requires about 40 hours of study. I am sure that if I roll up my sleeves that I will clear this work off my plate, but I have a request of you.

Here is my request: In a day or two, could you remove the material I put on main page left about "Democrats admit that they have a huge problem in 2024". [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:31, November 16, 2022 (EST)

:Sure. No problem. Call me when you get caught up and we can discuss priorities for MP based on what's happening then. There's so much happening right now, we should sort things out. Some stories have wait 2 or 3 days, like [[FTX scandal]], cause of the volume of election and foreign news. And FTX encompasses both. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 04:41, November 16, 2022 (EST)

== Quick update ==

I am taking a break from political conversations due to some off-wiki priorities. So I am going to bowed out of our conversation on my talk page. I put it in my talk page archive. Sorry about this. I had a small injury that took me out for awhile, but I have recovered. But I have a backlog of off-wiki work to clear off my plate. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:19, November 17, 2022 (EST)
:Wishing you a speedy recovery before the Dems get us all nuked. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:26, November 17, 2022 (EST)

==Reminder==

It’s about the photo uploads I requested. The links are in the photo request page.[[User:Admiral_Farmer|Admiral Farmer]][[User talk:Admiral_Farmer|''Admiral Farmer'']] 15:30, November 17, 2022 (EST)

== I made the change to the essay that you recommended ==

I made the change to the essay that you recommended.

I am referring to the essay: [[Essay: 3 more important reasons why the United States should not spend another dollar on the Russia-Ukraine War|3 more important reasons why the United States should not spend another dollar on the Russia-Ukraine War]].

Thanks for the feedback. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:17, November 20, 2022 (EST)

== Red links ==

Are you okay if I added red links to [[The Legend of Zelda]] page? I know you've said before that you don't like them, but some ''Zelda'' games have pages and may seem inconsistent if some linked, others aren't (and one can always get around to making them, just like how I got around to making a [[Mario Kart 64]] page recently). [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 14:02, November 22, 2022 (EST)
:If you intend to fill many of the them it's no problem. But if they are just placed there and you walk away from them, we'd prefer not. Note: it will also kill any hopes for Google results on the page. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 14:07, November 22, 2022 (EST)
::You're welcome, thank you for allowing me to ask [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 14:08, November 22, 2022 (EST)
::Mind moving [[Bowser (video game character)]] to [[Bowser (Mario character)]]? [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 14:51, November 22, 2022 (EST)
:::Also, want to move [[Sonic the hedgehog]] (I asked on talk page) to [[Sonic the Hedgehog]] too? The "Hedgehog" part needs to be capitalized. [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 14:59, November 22, 2022 (EST)

== Mario ==

Speaking of Rw troll, I think you mentioned there was a Mario person who trolled the site before? You probably know this, but I want to assure you that the Mario games themselves aren't leftist at the core, and communists are also trying to subvert video game franchises, which is part of why I asked if I could make pages on them last year (and am continuing a bit with that this year). So that they don't have that stigma attached to them. [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 15:05, November 23, 2022 (EST)

:I don't know nothing about it. Mario and Super Mario bored me to tears (as did Donkey Kong). I liked Zelda, and am amazed how it's expanded. I just don't have time these days to play video games. I'm sure if I played Rise of Kingdoms, I'd be King of the Earth. But haven't the time anymore. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 15:11, November 23, 2022 (EST)

::Point is that it sucks to see them try to ruin things we love by adding their agendas within [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 15:13, November 23, 2022 (EST)

:::If you want to be King of the Earth, it's easy. You go back to WWII, and at Stalingrad, you seize the Russian tank factory, begin producing German tanks, and seize all of Europe west of the Urals; as for Japan, you don't engage with the US by attacking Pearl Harbor, kick the Brits out of the Pacific east of Singapore, and attack Russia from [[Manchuria]] all the way to the Urals, seizing [[Siberia]]. Everybody lives happily thereafter. No USSR. No Cold War. No nuclear arms race. Nothing. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 15:20, November 23, 2022 (EST)

== Was it necessary to reduce my block of Admiral Farmer? ==

His racist screeds sounded as if they could've came from [[Theodore Bilbo]] himself. Or [[Adolf Hitler]]. Or Madison Grant. Or [[Lothrop Stoddard]]. Is his presence on this site needed at all? If a troll who inserts lighthearted parodies into articles can get blocked indefinitely (as has happened before numerous times), why is the block on a subversive racist troll being reduced to only 10 minutes? Just so you know, since you're an administrator, I'm inquiring first as opposed to wheel warring, which would be happening instead if any non-administrator reduced the block. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 11:25, November 24, 2022 (EST)

:You kids have to learn how to make nice with each other. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 11:44, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::Are you honestly telling me to "play nice" with obvious racist trolls? You yourself have blocked vandals before. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 11:48, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::Farmer dindu nuffin. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 11:52, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::His insertions into the "White replacement" page he started was obvious white supremacist propaganda. I already explained this yesterday. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 11:53, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::Yes, you expressed a POV on the talk. page. I asked you to allow the new page to develop and collaborative editing to continue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 11:57, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::Things have changed since a certain admin whose name began with a K and ended with jou and an "ara" in the middle. Today we encourage cooperation and collaborative editing, and not shut it down. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 11:59, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::All your action did, (which had no basis), was encourage sockpuppetry. Farmer violated no rules. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 12:05, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::::Seriously? Cooperation and collaborative editing with bad-faith trolls trying to subvert Conservapedia so they can go back to WIGO:CP and spout the usual "CP is racist" drivel? You're ostensibly handing RW a victory. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 12:13, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::::As noted, the user in question violated no rules. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 12:20, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::::::Fine, time to invoke the Commandments: rule 1: "Everything you post must be true and verifiable." Admiral Farmer's insertions are racist propaganda. Rule 3: "Any content you create or change (including edits, new pages, images and links) must be informative, family-friendly, clean, concise, and without gossip or foul language." It fails this rule as well for self-explanatory reasons since I already made it clear why his additions are nothing short of overt subversion. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 12:28, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::Oh so your assertion and cause for blocking that the user in question is a [[ratroll]] is true and verifiable? This ought to be good seeing you defend yourself now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 12:33, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::What are you talking about now? Somehow it's suddenly my fault for blocking a subversive troll who added a screed which I proved was utter racist propaganda? I already made my case and reasoning very clear. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 12:37, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::You haven't proved anything. You engaged in disruptive editing and arbitrary blocking. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 12:41, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::I haven't "proved anything"? [[Talk:White_replacement#This_page_was_created_by_an_obvious_troll|See here.]] I gave an adequate summary explaining the tropes, canards, and tactics used by Admiral Farmer and why it's white supremacist propaganda. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 12:43, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::::Farmer created the talk page and invited anyone wishing to make changes to discuss on talk. I made certain changes to mainspace, which no one objected to. However, you disrupted the editing process by first making unfounded allegations against a user who obviously was acting in good faith when he invited discussion, secondly, creating a redirect.

:::::::::::::And for all your allegations, you seem to ignore this entry, [[Europa: The Last Battle (2017 documentary)]]. What are going to do about that? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 12:49, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::::Acting in good faith? I hope you aren't actually serious. Admiral Farmer's insertions in his page creation were in of itself bad faith trolling. Instead of focusing on that, which is the problem, you're criticizing my response as too blunt and harsh. As for the other entry, I didn't notice that until now. However, I'm not dealing with that today. I have much better things to do today on Thanksgiving. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 12:55, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::::::You made the problem about you by attacking an editor acting in good faith.

:::::::::::::::Again now, ''What are you going to do about this entry'', [[Europa: The Last Battle (2017 documentary)]]? Have you watched all 10 parts? Are you going to use Wikipedia or Rationalwiki "experts" and critics to deal with it? I have a suspicion Admiral Farmer knows a little bit more about that film than you or I do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:00, November 24, 2022 (EST)
::::::::::::::::Nice, more whataboutism, attacking me for giving a blunt response to RW trolling rather than addressing the "ratroll" subversion itself. If you want me to deal with that entry, then you can wait. I don't intend to prioritize my time as some trigger-happy warrior wasting countless more hours upon hours fighting the RW propaganda war, and I'm especially not intent on doing it via your sluggish tactics. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|(The Old Right was right!)]]''''' Thursday, 13:06, November 24, 2022 (EST)
:::::::::::::::::I've been [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Europa:_The_Last_Battle_(2017_documentary)&action=history patiently waiting for four months] since the page was created. You disrupted the cooperative editing process. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:15, November 24, 2022 (EST)

== Some person on the internet compared European Union unity to a delicate vase and got some gentlemen very angry ==

Some person on the internet had the temerity to compare European Union unity to a delicate vase and got some secular leftist gentlemen very angry.

He also questioned whether Vladimir Putin was right-wing or left-wing and started an extended debate on this matter on this same website.

The icing on the cake is that he had a Ukrainian flag on his user page at the website.

The excitement was raging for a while on this website which has been losing large amounts of web traffic since October of 2019. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:15, November 26, 2022 (EST)

:Europe is a garden, and the jungle bunnies reproduce too fast. So rather than build a wall, Europe has to cross the Mediterranean and wage aggressive war to restore the slave trade. This is official EU policy in 2022. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:22, November 26, 2022 (EST)

== Edit request ==

Hello RobSmith, and happy [[Thanksgiving]]! I noticed a typo in our article about [[Vladimir Putin]], and was hoping you could correct it for me. Would you be able to change "although not very ofen used" (in the lead, referring to his usage of [[Twitter]]) to "although not very often used"? Thank you so much! [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:08, November 27, 2022 (EST)
:Got it. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 21:12, November 27, 2022 (EST)
::Thank you for making the edit! [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:17, November 27, 2022 (EST)

==Uk decadence==

You and Yan Gagin, adviser to [[DPR]] head Denis Pushilin, are on the same song sheet. He blames the UK for drag shows and Western decadence that has spread to the United States, the West, and Ukraine. [https://youtu.be/j2LE3yO1P9M?t=462 5] RobSGive Peace a chance 00:54, December 7, 2022 (EST)

:Maybe it will turn around. After the Roaring 20's in the USA was the more conservative 1950's. The nonreligious/irreligious UK citizens have subreplacement level of births, while there are more conservative and religious citizens in the UK that have children. In addition, conservative and religious immigrants are pouring into the UK. [Redacted](talk) 01:08, December 7, 2022 (EST)
::More specifically, my question is, ''Why are you spewing [[Putin propaganda]]?'' RobSGive Peace a chance 01:10, December 7, 2022 (EST)
:::I am not going to get into a protracted argument with you about Russia/Putin. We agree on some matters on these topics and have disagreements. Given my other commitments and priorities, we are going to have to agree to disagree. [Redacted] (talk) 01:35, December 7, 2022 (EST)
::::It's pretty obvious what happened here: the authoritarian kleptocratic [[Kremlin]] and Putin gave their talking points to Pushilin; Pushilin gave them to Gagin; Gagin gave them to American traitor and [[propagandist]] [[John Mark Duggan]]; and that's the source of your MPR screeds against the UK. RobSGive Peace a chance 01:48, December 7, 2022 (EST)

== User:Conservative is frivolously misusing administrator powers (yet again) ==

Neither the left nor right sections of the Main Page are virtual billboards to advertise one's spam and scams free of charge. If only he grasped this simple concept and follows it.

It's also insulting to the name of Christianity to exploit a Bible verse for the purpose of collectively demonizing a group of people rather than following the example of Jesus, who sought to convert rather than repel. If he ever even read the Gospels, apparently he missed this crucial message. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Friday, 15:50, December 9, 2022 (EST)

:Wow. I just realized my Twitter account is unblocked. Now it can be used to help direct traffic from Twitter to Conservapedia, as we discussed sometime ago. We need a plan. However, I'm not going to tweet anything yet when new readers come to the Main Page and are greeted with offensive [[xenophobic]] crap like mentioned above. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:08, December 9, 2022 (EST)
::Well, if you're going to use Twitter to help promote Conservapedia, more followers may be needed first. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Friday, 16:16, December 9, 2022 (EST)
:::I was just learning how to build a following when I got blocked. I think I had about 250 followers (the trick is get a net gain of followers over who you follow, which takes time and attention to build. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:20, December 9, 2022 (EST)
::::I'm suddenly reminded that Conservapedia used to have a Twitter account; while the old deleted one might not be directly retrievable, what the site needs an active official account constantly promoting new articles and analyses of breaking news. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Friday, 16:24, December 9, 2022 (EST)
:::::JPatt has password, I understand. Didn't he offer it to us? But it will cumbersome, cause you have to pay attention to time of day, etc. You never know when a loose cannon is going to start vandalizing MPR or MPL with provocative screeds to incite vandal attacks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:28, December 9, 2022 (EST)
::::::I'll ask Andy about this whole idea right now. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Friday, 16:30, December 9, 2022 (EST)

== Article request ==

Consider creating the article [[Ukraine fatigue]]. You are good researcher (Although we don't always agree.). And you will write it from a non-MSM perspective. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:59, December 20, 2022 (EST)
:We could all be nuked before I finish. Then real fatigue will set in. Alternately, if we survive, the world is forever changed, and we're not going back to what existed prior to Feb 2022. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 22:02, December 20, 2022 (EST)

:If, during World War II, I were to write a piece on "War fatigue", in the USSR I'd be called a shirker, in Germany a saboteur, and the US/UK a fascist. You need to wake up and see that this war funded by the US is a war FOR [[secularization]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:07, December 25, 2022 (EST)

== Page move request ==

I tried moving the article on [[Anti-Semitism]] to "[[Antisemitism]]," though this error popped up:
<big><div style="color:#CC0000">
You do not have permission to move this page, for the following reason:

A page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name.</div></big>

I think it's because the title "Antisemitism" redirects to the current main article under the title "Anti-Semitism," and apparently only administrators can move titles "over redirect." Can you please do the move since I'm not able to in this instance? Thanks! —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Sunday, 23:52, December 24, 2022 (EST)

:There's several ways it can be done. One way is to cut and paste the old article into the Redirect, and making a Redirect out of the old article (this will eliminate the old page view count). Another way is delete the Redirect, finish the page move, and make a Redirect out of the old page.

:However, I would warn beforehand: '''Antisemitism''' is the title Wikipedia uses. Therefore, the decision was made some time ago to not use the same spelling, so not to have to compete with Wikipedia for Google result page rankings. This method is still used in consideration for many article titles. I'd like to hear User:Telling's input on the Move before doing anything.

::Alright, let's consult with Telling as well about this matter <s>(I can do this after Christmas)</s>, since he probably holds greater expertise on this subject than perhaps both of us combined. I don't think we should base these decisions simply on how Wikipedia does things; if you do some research into the spelling difference, you'll find a trove of information about how a) Wilhelm Marr's original spelling was, and remains in Europe, unhyphenated; b) the concept of "Semites" was evidently invented by scientific racists; c) Jews aren't the only form of "Semites" with the way the term is defined, and therefore "anti-Semitism" means "Semite-hatred" rather than "Jew-hatred," its actual meaning. —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Sunday, 00:08, December 25, 2022 (EST)

:::One argument is that Wikipedia is not the authority. And there's no way we can ever complete with WP and the mirror sites. We do best by finding alternative names and spelling, which often times is a WP Redirect (I doubt they have a redirect for [[NATO war in Ukraine]], but maybe someday they will). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:13, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::Sigh, these decisions should be based on sound wisdom and objective truth, not an expedient matter of how to best compete with Wikipedia in every situation. Is there any inherent merit to favor the spelling "anti-Semitism" over "antisemitism"? I used to spell it "anti-Semitism" out of assumed custom tradition, though once I did some research, I found that there's magnitudes upon magnitudes better reasons to abandon the capital 's' (and with it, the hyphen). —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Sunday, 00:17, December 25, 2022 (EST)

:::::Yes, there is merit. Page views. Any edge we can get over WP in page rankings increases page views. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:20, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::::Sigh, let's not let page view growth pursuits be prioritized over historical facts... to reiterate and summarize my points above, the spelling "anti-Semitism" entirely distorts the meaning of the word away from its intended synonymous meaning with "Jew-hatred," and gives credence to the notion that there's a "Semitic" race, which is a propaganda concept invented by scientific racists. Ever notice that Jews never call themselves "Semites," yet Jew-haters sometimes claim that they oppose "Semites" and "Semitism"? (also, for that matter, I don't really see those who downplay Jew-hatred, nor Jew-haters themselves, ever use the spelling "antisemitism," and instead stick with "anti-Semitism") —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Sunday, 00:23, December 25, 2022 (EST)
:::::::The term originated in France, as I understand it, as did the term "Gypsy" (now "Roma"), thinking "Gypsies" came from Egypt, whereas they evidently came from India. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 01:06, December 25, 2022 (EST)
:::::::Do a test. I'd wager CP doesn't show up in the Top 100 on Google under any spelling. Under the current spelling, it may make the Top 20 or 50 on Bing. Change the spelling to mirror WP, and we get squashed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:29, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::I just ran a test on several search engines, and virtually all redirect the hyphenated spelling to the WP spelling. What this means is algorithm programmers adopted WP as the authority and have manually programed a redirect into the search engine. Gigablast, which is probably the moist unbiased search engine now, brings the CP article in - under the Redirected title - at about number 150. To Move the page risks losing that ranking on Gigablast, and will bury us on other search engines. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:45, December 25, 2022 (EST)

:::::We can still attain good search results via articles on topics not covered well enough on Wikipedia; I started a stub on [[Antisemitism in universities]].
:::::Anyways, completely notwithstanding the subject discussed here, Merry Christmas! —[[User:LT|<code>'''LT'''</code>]] '''''[[User talk:LT|(Exodus 23:2)]]''''' Sunday, 00:48, December 25, 2022 (EST)

::::::If the page count on a Redirect starts accelerating, that means the traffic is coming directly from Search engines. The page has 115k hits, organically. The Redirect 500. Moving the page to compete w WP will kill all search engine results.
::::::And Merry Christmas to you, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 00:56, December 25, 2022 (EST)
== Does Conservapedia have an article on this subject? ==

Does Conservapedia have an article on this subject: [https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/01/19/new-language-requirement-raises-concerns-ukraine New Language Requirement Raises Concerns in Ukraine]?

Let me know. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:46, January 15, 2023 (EST)
::If we don't have such an article, here is a title: [[Language policy in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:51, January 15, 2023 (EST)
:::Here is another wiki's article on this topic: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Language_policy_in_Ukraine#:~:text=According%20to%20article%2010%20of,entire%20territory%20of%20the%20country. Language policy in Ukraine]. I am guessing it may be a pro-Ukrainian article, but I can't say that I read it. I try to avoid reading article on political matters at that wiki. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:56, January 15, 2023 (EST)

::::There's not a separate standalone article, but there are multiple references in the [[Ukraine]] article under several subsections. I've tried to keep up with developments as new laws are coming all the time, not just at the national level but also at the regional and local level.
::::Distance learning for example, as a result of covid lockdowns, has been used to ban teaching Russian to children. Also renaming of streets from Russian literary figures to Western porno stars highlights the mockery and bigotry. Destruction of Russian and Soviet era monuments is a separate issue. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 13:52, January 15, 2023 (EST)

Thank you for reverting the unprompted block of another moderator. Is there a place I should propose article ideas before creating a page? I don't want to unintentionally run afoul of any policies that might lead to getting blocked again. {{unsigned}}
:Not necessarily, but discussion with other users is always good. You created two orphan, uncategorized pages, which automatically placed them on the deletion review list. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 12:50, January 24, 2023 (EST)

== Brand Finance's 2022 ranking of the countries with the most soft power ==

Brand Finance's 2022 ranking of the 10 countries with the most [[soft power]]:

# United States
# United Kingdom
# Germany
# China
# Japan
# France
# Canada
# Switzerland
# <big>'''Russia'''</big>
# Italy

Russia is still ranked #9 in the world by the company that is the leading brand consultancy firm - namely, Brand Finance. After all the soft power unleashed on the Russia by the USA/UK to put the country in a negative light in 2022, it is still ranked #9. I was totally surprised by this. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:44, January 26, 2023 (EST)
:I imagine this is measured in dollars. That's changing. Saudi Arabia, Brazil, and Argentina just dumped the dollar. The [[petrodollar]] is no more. Now we have the petroyuan. The only reason China isn't accelerating the decline of the dollar is cause the US owes them too much, and they want to get paid first. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:05, January 26, 2023 (EST)

:Also, let's assume the recent stories are true that China was successful in [https://www.nspirement.com/2023/01/26/400-million-die-ccp-cover-up.html exterminating 400 million of its 1.4 billion population with the covid bioweapon]; that would drastically change the demographics of its 'aging population' and lower the average age (assuming people in older age groups were most affected). That's one way to deal with a budget deficit and social security insolvency. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:14, January 26, 2023 (EST)
::I changed my mind. Much of the non-West is not gun-ho about supporting the Ukrainians. Russian supplies oil/gas/food/fertilizer and military hardware to many countries. In addition, Russia is not woke and many countries are not woke. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:32, January 26, 2023 (EST)
:::Even people in the West have never really been consulted. Only Western globalists and its controlled media are gung ho. The recent revelation from the [[laptop from hell]] tells the whole story: the US wants the Donbas and Crimea so British Petroleum can do offshore oil and gas exploration (in addition to the [[Sevastopol]] naval base for NATO). Not like any of this is a surprise and a shock. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:40, January 26, 2023 (EST)
::Returning to soft power theory: the whole theory is based upon the United States ability to use the printing press to fund (a) Democrat vote buying domestically; (b) foreign oil from abroad; and (c) the military industrial complex. 2022 may be the last year you can get a fair reading of its accuracy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:54, January 26, 2023 (EST)

== The war in Ukraine is not the biggest issue the USA faces ==

RobS, you wrote concerning the USA: "Defubnding Ukraine is the biggest issue we face".[https://www.conservapedia.com/File_talk:Party_affiliation_in_the_USA_in_2022.jpg]

My reply:

Defunding Ukraine is not the biggest issue the USA faces. It's biggest issue is its deficit spending and its bloated government which is largely driven by its entitlements and huge defense spending. The federal government spent $6.27 trillion in FY 2022. Right now, 14% of the total federal spending is paying on interest related to the national debt. About $100 billion was spent on the war in Ukraine which is about 1.6% of government spending. So from a budgetary perspective, the war on Ukraine is a small part of a much larger problem. Americans, who are living longer, need to work longer and Social Security and Medicare should be means tested. Also, the USA spends a ton on health care and Americans are not super healthy. Japan is the only country in the world to have successfully tackled obesity and they have a "fat tax".[https://medium.com/illumination-curated/the-country-that-taxes-people-for-being-too-fat-356cacdc1d32] Japanese live 7 years longer on average than Americans. Tax the fat people America!

Both Russia and Ukraine are filled with corrupt and authoritarian people which is why their futures are bleak. On the other hand, one in three Africans live below the global poverty line and Taiwan is being bullied by China so I have a lot more empathy for these people. According to the World Data Lab, 42 African countries are in poverty, and in 16 of those countries, the poverty rate is rising.[https://www.compassion.com/poverty/poverty-in-africa.htm] Based on the research related to [[Protestant cultural legacies]], evangelism directed towards Africa could improve their situation. I believe Africa is more fertile ground for the gospel than Ukraine/Russia. The Christian faith has grown exponentially in sub-Saharan Africa, from just 9% of the population in 1910 to 63% today.[https://www.christianmessenger.in/study-traces-exponential-growth-of-christianity-in-africa/] On the other hand, in 2022, it was reported that attendance at Russian Orthodox Church services in Russia has dropped to around one percent.[https://mercatornet.com/few-russians-go-to-church-many-who-dont-may-still-be-influenced-by-their-patriarchs-tirades/78666/]

Maybe Americans will develop more Ukraine fatigue. I hope so, but judging from Vietnam War, Iraq War and Afghanistan War and the strength of the military-industrial complex, the funding of the war could drag on.

And as far as an issue that is going to affect the world, if you read the article [[Religion and Africa]], you will read "Africa has a high fertility rate and it is seeing a big population boom. According to the Institute For Security Studies: "Africa's population is the fastest growing in the world. It is expected to increase by roughly 50% over the next 18 years, growing from 1.2 billion people today to over 1.8 billion in 2035. In fact, Africa will account for nearly half of global population growth over the next two decades... Between 2000 and 2020, the continent of Africa had more than 37,000 new Christians every day.
For more information, please see: [https://www.christianmessenger.in/study-traces-exponential-growth-of-christianity-in-africa/ Study traces exponential growth of Christianity in Africa]".

On the other hand, the fertility rates of Ukraine and Russia are very bad (See: [[Russia's fertility rate]] and [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUvJPdHqYYiHaspPfyBkYLqYfiOXHyduu Peter Zeihan's demography series]). '''In thirty years, there will likely not be many ethnic Ukrainians and perhaps in 60 years there will not be very many Russians due to their subreplacement fertility rates'''.[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUvJPdHqYYiHaspPfyBkYLqYfiOXHyduu]

So spend less time focusing on the corrupt and authoritarian countries of Russia/Ukraine which have bleak futures and focus more on Africa! And focus more on the USA which is going to continue to be the preeminent country in the 21st century for the foreseeable future - unlike Russia! See: [[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future|The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]] and [[Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future|Why I am not bullish on Russia's future]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:16, March 2, 2023 (EST)
:Right. I forgot. People are more concerned about Disneyland. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 07:09, March 2, 2023 (EST)

:See [[Multipolar]]ity and [[Petrodollar]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 07:09, March 2, 2023 (EST)

:'''[https://consortiumnews.com/2023/02/28/ukraine-the-tunnel-at-the-end-of-the-light/ In 20 or 30 years, the U.S. will still be a substantial regional power, perhaps like Brazil in South America, Iran in West Asia, or Nigeria in Africa. But it will not be the global hegemon it once was, able to project and inflict power in the world as it has done for the last century.]''' [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 07:26, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::I'm sorry. I really don't understand your argument. I said, "Defunding Ukraine is the biggest issue we face." Are you arguing for continued funding of the Ukraine war? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 07:42, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::Are you saying, "well, Ukraine and Russia are going to be extinct in 30 or 50 years, so let's hurry that up a few decades." That is some sick, twisted reasoning. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 07:46, March 2, 2023 (EST)
:::You wrote: "Are you saying, "well, Ukraine and Russia are going to be extinct in 30 or 50 years, so let's hurry that up a few decades." That is some sick, twisted reasoning."

:::When you stoop to putting words in your debate opponent's mouth in order to create a [[straw man fallacy]] that is a very clear sign that you lost the argument. As much as I hate to do it, I declare total victory!

:::The USA may go through a Great Depression 2.0 in the 2030s due to its enormous debt which is growing[https://itreconomics.com/depression] (which will greatly affect the rest of the world due to the size of the USA economy), but it will bounce back. If there was some hopeful things happening in Russia/Ukraine, I would be the first to mention it. There is a [[growth of Protestantism in Russia]], but it is small compared to some of the other regions of the world like in Africa or China (See: [[Growth of Christianity in China]]). Religion plays a big role in a society's culture. And once again, I will mention that in 2022 it was reported that attendance at Russian Orthodox Church services in Russia has dropped to around one percent.[https://mercatornet.com/few-russians-go-to-church-many-who-dont-may-still-be-influenced-by-their-patriarchs-tirades/78666/] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:27, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::::Is that a pro-war or anti-war response? Seems to me, you support neo-Nazis. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 14:06, March 2, 2023 (EST)
:::::After you failed putting my words in my mouth, I frankly don't care what "seems to" you. You are not taking an honest approach and you are purposefully being a difficult person. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:01, March 2, 2023 (EST)
{{Cquote|<big>'''''This country is [[Doomsday Argument|doomed!]] It is doomed not just because of [[African American]]s, but because by 2040 this country is going to be minority [[white]] [[Europe]]an! Hear me! Minority white European!'''''</big>|||<s>User:Conservative</s> Joe Biden}}
::::::Your falling back on demography and "science" to justify every crackpot idea under the sun is balderdash.
{{Cquote|"There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not: The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man with a maid.|||Proverbs 31:18-19}}

:::You use some of the most twisted, convoluted reasoning imaginable.

:::I say,

::::"Defunding Ukraine is the biggest issue we face".

:::You say,

::::the "biggest issue is its deficit spending...About $100 billion was spent on the war in Ukraine which is about 1.6% of government spending."

:::Nevermind cutting 1.6% this year, cause in 2 years, after the GOP fails to cut that 1.6%, the Dems can go on for another 2 years, or 20 years, adding to that bloated deficit. Then you go on, "Russia, China, Africa, Japan bla bla bla obesity, the Russian Church, Protestantism, bla bla bla fertility bla bla bla..." I'm sure your arguments make sense to you, but please, don't explain it to me. You never address the moral problem of you shelling out of your pocket money for Nazis. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 17:49, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::::Then you double down on inanity, citing Russian church attendance as cause for the US to continue shelling out 1.6% of federal spending, adding to the national debt, knowing church attendance means nothing. Roman Catholics and Mormons mandate church attendance, yet it is Protestants who question whether they are even Christian (never mind qualifying your source).

::::It seems impossible for you to stay focused on an issue or discussion sometimes. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:41, March 2, 2023 (EST)
:::::People are not flocking to Russia, they are leaving. And having babies is a fundamental aspect of a functioning culture and Russians are having a subreplacement level of births. A lot of Russian soldiers are dying in Ukraine. This isn't rocket science as far as figuring out the negative implications for Russia. If you don't get it, it is because you willfully don't want to get it and your being stubborn. But that is not my problem. It is yours. I led the proverbial horse to water. I suggest you drink. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:42, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::::::If you had some facts beside your regurgitated NATO Nazi propaganda to support continuing aid to Nazis, it would be different.

::::::How many times in your life did you have to deny that you were a fascist right-wing Nazi? And here's your opportunity to take a moral stand against Nazism, and you bow to peer pressure from secular atheists cause you don't want to be called a 'Putin shill'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:52, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::::::And your pretending to rise above it (while continuing to pay Nazis) by saying "they're both authoritarian and corrupt," is moral cowardice. if it were me, I'd just shut up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 18:55, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::::::I wish I could hide my head in the sand and go into [[denialism]] to escape difficult moral choices by saying things like, "U.S. taxpayer supported Nazis don't matter cause its only 2% of the budget and in 40 years there will be more African Protestants anyway," but I am of the school of realism. 20:07, March 2, 2023 (EST)

:::::Let's talk about Prof. Mearsheimer for a minute. You say you listen to him and agree with him, yet everything else you do and say is the opposite of what Mearsheimer says. Perhaps it is his low-key way of raising alarm, which is half a function of his position in society as an academic, and half his personality. Just cause he doesn't run around like his hair is on fire, is no reason for you to ignore his message - that we're going to hell because of your taxpayer support for Ukrainian Nazis. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 20:42, March 2, 2023 (EST)

:::::[[Steve Turley]] is another one you cite all the time, but never listen to. [https://youtu.be/bRfiQ01FmxA Putin warns NATO to back off or risk ‘catastrophic consequences’.] You think Putin is just running off at the mouth, or is Steve Turley just yanking your chain? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 21:50, March 2, 2023 (EST)

::::::So right there, if you listened to what Turley said in that video (and others before), he just shot your "[[Essay: The United States will be the leading power in the world for the foreseeable future]]" in the butt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 23:27, March 2, 2023 (EST)
:::::::[https://gpovanman.wordpress.com/2023/03/02/entrenched-mentalities/ Entrenched Mentalities]. I think the author wrote this with you in mind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 02:50, March 3, 2023 (EST)
If the USA cut off support for corrupt and authoritarian country of Ukraine, that would be a good thing. Maybe the national debt caused by a potential Great Depression 2.0 will not be as severe. Whatever happens during this war, it will not alter the bleak future that Russia and Ukraine will probably have due to their multiple problems which their societies are disinterested and/or are not motivated enough to fix.

John Mearsheimer believes that before the war in Ukraine Russia did not have big imperial ambitions that included eventually attacking NATO countries and that the USA baited the Russian bear by talking about Ukraine/Georgia joining NATO. As far as Russia not having imperial ambitions that involved attacking NATO nations, he is probably right, but who knows? Peter Zeihan believes Putin has imperial ambitions that involve taking over Ukraine and then attacking some of the NATO countries that historically were areas that countries went through to attack Russia (Zeihan believes that Russia wants to take over some of the lands around Russia.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-r7z0lM5_k]).

The historian [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Kotkin Stephen Kotkin], who is knowledgeable about Russia and authoritarian regimes, says it is often unknowable what dictatorial/authoritarian leader intends to do and even close associates don't know what the leader intends to do. And Kotkin says that often the leader doesn't know himself what he is going to do next. He also indicates Putin keeps his cards close to his chest.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rE9WXaxyc] Kotkin is in favor of arming Ukraine and forcing Putin to the bargaining table by threatening his regime and that shaving up off some points of his GDP is not enough.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rE9WXaxyc] Kotkin also said that the longer the war in Ukraine lasts, the more resources that cannot be used to help defend Taiwan.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0rE9WXaxyc]

I believe that the Biden Administration is incompetent and somewhat aggressive as far as their international/military policy (Less aggressive than G.W. Bush, but more aggressive than Donald Trump), but the Republicans might decide to lessen and perhaps eventually stop the flow of funds of money to Ukraine.

In the USA, the most recent poll data indicates: "Overall, public support for Ukraine aid has fallen from 60 percent last May to 48 percent now according to surveys by The Associated Press-NORC Center for +Public Affairs Research. The share of Americans who think the United States has given too much to Ukraine has grown from 7 percent a year ago to 26 percent in January, according to the Pew Research Center. And even supporters make clear their commitment is not without bounds. While 50 percent of those surveyed by Fox News said American support should continue for “as long as it takes to win,” 46 percent said the time frame should be limited.that support for Ukraine is now at 48% of Americans" (see: [https://static01.nyt.com/images/2023/03/02/nytfrontpage/scan.pdf SUPPORT EBBING FOR KYIV’S FIGHT AS MONEY FLOWS]). I believe that the more this war drags on and the more USA taxpayer money flows to Ukraine, the more Americans will experience Ukraine fatigue. And I don't believe that Europe has the ability or desire/willpower to push the Russians out of Ukraine.

I don't pretend to know how the conflict in Ukraine will pan out, but I hope the conflict ends as soon as possible. Both Mearsheimer/Zeihan believes that the odds favor Russia in winning the war in Ukraine and I tend to agree with them about Russia having the upper hand. Mearsheimer is more a dove towards Russian than Zeihan. Kotkin admits he doesn't know how it will end. At this point, the prediction market data indicates that Republicans have about a 6.5% better chance of winning the presidency in 2024.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ww4ofe0v70] Who wins the presidency in 2024 will definitely have an impact on Russian/USA relations. What happens in the war in Ukraine and the USA economy are likely going to be a very determining factors of who becomes the next president of the USA, but these two things are hard to predict - especially the economy. And how the USA economy is doing is probably going to be the most decisive factor of who wins the presidency in 2024.

With that being said, my interest in the war in Ukraine has waned. So I am not going to discuss this matter more with you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:56, March 3, 2023 (EST)

:Great Depression 2.0 = fall of the [[Petrodollar]]
:Zeihan, Kotkin, ''et sq'' = [[NATO]] [[propaganda]].
::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 06:46, March 3, 2023 (EST)

::You need to learn how to discern propaganda. For example, the ''Washington Free Beacon'', ordinarily considered a conservative or Republican source, and an excellent one at that, has this headline this morning: ''[https://freebeacon.com/columns/bidens-self-defeating-ukraine-strategy/ Biden’s Self-Defeating Ukraine Strategy]'', - a seemingly anti-war statement - until you read the subheadline, ''Restricting weapons to Ukraine gives Russia and China the advantage.'' More NATO Nazi scare tactics.

::Remember, it was the ''Free Beacon'' that first hired [[FusionGPS]] to dig up dirt on Trump before the primaries, but failed (i.e., Steele tried to peddle his Trump-Russia scheme to them but the editors saw Steel had no evidence or merit, so they cut him loose after Trump won the primaries. They weren't in the business of taking down Trump at all costs). But "restricting weapons to Ukraine gives Russia and China the advantage" clearly puts the chief editor in the "more for Ukraine" camp. ''Free Beacon'' is one of the few conservative Republican sources I did not unsubscribe from when the chips were down and they started spewing [[Russophobic]] propaganda. I know their reach and influence, and what they say is often repeated and expanded upon with further investigations by other conservative Republican publications. Their influence in domestic politics is unrivalled. In foreign policy, their reporting on China is excellent. But as far as Russia, NATO, and Ukraine, they are slaves of the Angelo-American Transatlantic alliance [[Deep State]] [[Uniparty]] and all its demonic spawns.

::So this is one pro-war, neo-Nazi, Russophobic source I will still listen to, if only to keep an eye on what other conservative Republicans will be saying tomorrow. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 07:58, March 3, 2023 (EST)

:'''Propaganda update:''' [https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2023/03/ukraine-russia-china-and-dealing-with-crazy-people.html Ukraine, Russia, China, and Dealing With Crazy People], March 2, 2023 by Yves Smith, Yves Smith is the owner of the site. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 09:06, March 3, 2023 (EST)

::Yves Smith summarizes the work of [[Brian Berletic]], Dima at Military Summary, Big Serge, and MacGregor in this article. So unless or until you start coming up with sources of the caliber of those guys, or start following them, I'm not really interested anymore in discussing neo-Nazi Russophobic talking points (I've been debating and discussing them since I first heard the name "[[Solzhenitsyn]]" in 1974) anymore. Sources like Zeihan of Kotkin I have in mind right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 09:18, March 3, 2023 (EST)

::If you want to hold or be influences by the views of people like Zlotkin or Keinan, go ahead, but please stop filling discussions with me with that neo-Nazi crap. You're spinning your wheels and wasting my time. I'm not going to review their [[hate speech]] or answer anything about them or their twisted views. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 09:23, March 3, 2023 (EST)

::This guy would be a good source to begin following [https://samgerrans.substack.com/p/propaganda-as-a-part-of-technique?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email Propaganda As A Part Of Technique]. He launched his substack 5 days ago, and I think I was his 7 follower. He lives in Russia for 20 years and is fluent in Russian. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 10:21, March 3, 2023 (EST)

Is there any reason the [[Ovarit]] page was deleted other than being written by that Russian user? I thought it was interesting how they emerged as a response to Reddit's draconian banning of r/GenderCritical --[[User:SingleChristian1|SingleChristian1]] ([[User talk:SingleChristian1|talk]]) 16:22, March 8, 2023 (EST)
:It was part of a mass delete of a troll. That article itself, as is, was an uncategoriged orphaned stub that would need to be overhauled. It would be easier to start it from scratch. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 16:30, March 8, 2023 (EST)

Hey! I saw you edited my [[Trans and drag grooming in the United States]] page

I know you're way more active on here than me so anything you can think to add or change would be appreciated!

I'm hoping the whole community can Collab together to keep it up to date as a database of sorts of all the grooming

Fake news

2023-03-17T13:58:59Z

Mikephshdj:

[[File:AP fake news.jpg|right|400px|thumb|The Associated Press tried to ignite World War III with a fake news story sourced to a "senior U.S. intelligence official."<ref>https://scheerpost.com/2022/11/18/why-is-ap-still-protecting-the-source-behind-its-false-russia-bombed-poland-story/</ref> The reporter remarkably was held to account and later fired.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4sm7OdbMxQ</ref>]]
[[File:Time fake news Denisova.jpg|right|350px|thumb|Ukraine Human Rights Ombudsman Lyudmila Denisova, in an unprecedented move, was actually fired for manufacturing fake news reports about alleged Russian [[rape]]s and bringing disrepute on the Ukrainian regime.<ref>{{Cite web |date=28 June 2022 |title='This will not help us defeat the enemy' A new report looks at Ukrainian Ombudsman Lyudmyla Denisova, who was fired after officials couldn't confirm her stories of rape committed by Russian soldiers |url=https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/06/28/we-work-on-the-information-front |access-date= |website=Meduza |language=en}}</ref>]]
'''Fake news''' refers to bias in the media that is so misleading that it is actually false. It can also include assertions of a non-political nature that seem believable but are untrue. It often incorporates the use of questionable or unnamed (and most often, non-existent) "anonymous sources" that present one or more of the following characteristics: extreme bias, consistent promotion of propaganda/conspiracies, poor or no sourcing to credible information, or a complete lack of transparency.<ref name="mediabiasfactcheck.com">Questionable Sources, https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/fake-news/</ref>

The motive of fake news is to manipulate public opinion using false reporting and [[bias]] for the purpose of profit or influence.<ref name="mediabiasfactcheck.com"/> It can be sourced by anonymous government [[leak]]ers or political operatives, or entirely fictional. The motive can be as simple as [[confirmation bias]] – pandering to an ideological viewership to distribute talking points or maintain ratings.

[[Hollywood]] fake news is in the form of "docudramas" that mix factual content with falsehoods such that viewers are misled into thinking that the falsehoods are true, as in the upcoming [[Mrs. America]] miniseries. [[mainstream media|Mainstream]] fake news has [[liberal bias]] that goes beyond reporting of facts and commentary; it can take the form of headlining a manufactured crisis to obscure real news in the daily news cycle. [[Clickbait]], a sensational headline with a body of reporting based on half-truths designed to lure a reader into a commercial website, is another form of fake news.

Examples of major mainstream fake news stories in the recent past are:
*Russia attacked [[Poland]], a [[NATO]] ally.
*Russia blew up the [[NordStream]] pipeline.
*The targeted extermination of ethnic [[Russian]]s and Russian-speakers by the [[Ukrainian]] government in the [[Donbas]] between 2014 and 2022 is not [[ethnic cleansing]].<ref>https://en.news-front.info/2022/01/17/ethnic-cleansing-in-donbass-kiev-prepares-republics-for-croatian-storm/</ref>
*That the [[Waukesha Christmas parade massacre]] was a "crash" or "accident" rather than a racially motivated domestic terror attack by a black nationalist and [[BLM]] supporter.<ref>https://twitter.com/DrewHLive/status/1463529916717096965</ref>
*The [[Hunter Biden]] laptop is Russians disinformation.
*That there was no election fraud in Arizona in 2020 or 2022.
*That use of [[ivermectin]] as early treatment against [[COVID-19]], which is often successful, was causing an overflow of emergency rooms at hospitals by patients harmed by the formulations for horses - not true at all.<ref>https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/gunshot-victims-horse-dewormer-ivermectin-oklahoma-hospitals-covid-1220608/</ref>
*That a [[Trump]] supporter supposedly bludgeoned a [[United States Capitol Building|Capitol]] police officer to death with a fire extinguisher, on Jan. 6, 2021, which the ''[[New York Times]]'' did not retract until weeks after its publication.
[[File:Reuters Izium fake news.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Reuters withdrew the initial attempt by the Zelensky regime to create another false narrative about alleged Russian massacres.<ref>https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/09/ukraine-dissecting-some-war-propaganda-news-items-addendum.html</ref>]]
*That the [[Biden family corruption|Hunter Biden scandel]] is Russian misinformation.<ref>https://therightscoop.com/heres-an-epic-reminder-of-just-how-nasty-the-smear-campaign-was-aimed-at-the-ny-post-article-on-hunter-bidens-laptop/</ref>
*The Chinese Communist Party claim that the bat coronavirus originated in a [[Wuhan]] wet market and people eating bats.
*That there are no documented cases of fraud in the [[2020 presidential election]].
*That the [[1/6 Capitol protests]] was a white supremacist insurrection.
*That [[Kyle Rittenhouse]] fired off 60 rounds at white [[Black Lives Matter]] protesters who were attacking him.<ref>https://thepostmillennial.com/msnbc-host-spreads-lies-about-rittenhouse-case</ref>
*That the 1/6 Capitol melee was initiated by Trump supporters.
*Two days after the [[Biden junta]] seized power, the ''Washington Post'' ended its alleged fact checker program.<ref>https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/01/21/washington-post-ends-fact-check-program-for-trump-has-no-plans-to-launch-one-for-biden-1019603/</ref>
*Drivers caught in traffic during [[Black Lives Matter]] protests are "[[white supremacist]]s" (even if the drivers are other than white) using vehicles to attack "peaceful protesters".<ref>https://youtu.be/DnTAO0n2FUI</ref>
*Rioters are not "protesters", and riots are not "peaceful protests."
*That it is [[Mika Brzezinski]] and [[Joe Scarborough]] of [[MSNBC]]'s job to "control exactly what people think."<ref>https://youtu.be/OJ9ce-yMEfc</ref>
*That if a black person does not vote for Joe Biden, they are not black.
*Fake news media adopted the talking points of the [[totalitarian]] [[Chinese Communist Party]] against the [[Hong Kong]] [[democracy]] movement.<ref>https://www.theepochtimes.com/why-nbc-msnbcs-reporting-on-the-epoch-times-is-textbook-fake-news_3051327.html</ref>

Political fake news is designed to push an agenda, typically the [[liberal]] one. Non-political clickbait is designed to attract internet traffic, attention, or sales. Clickbait websites often lack known publishers hindering lawsuits against them for [[libel]] or [[slander]].<ref>{{Cite web|url=https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/05/opinions/suing-fake-news-not-so-fast-callan/index.html|title=Sue over fake news? Not so fast|last=Callan|first=Paul|website=CNN|accessdate=April 6, 2017}}</ref> In many cases, clickbait websites resolve to [[IP address]]es located outside the United States.
[[File:Jennifer Cafarella ISW.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Tweet sent out by national security "expert" Jennifer Cafarella from the Institute for the Studt of War in D.C. during the [[Rape of Afghanistan]].<ref>https://twitter.com/JennyCafarella/status/1425913843990024193</ref>]]
[[File:Reuters - Ukrainians repel Russians with paintball guns.PNG|right|350px|thumb|During the [[Russia-Ukraine war]], ''[[Reuters]]'' posted a story on [[Twitter]] with a photo of [[LARP]]ers holding [[paintball]] guns claiming that the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) repelled a Russian attack in the Sumy region.<ref>https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/05/16/ummm-guys-pic-of-armed-ukrainians-reuters-shares-with-ukraine-repelling-russia-in-sumy-region-story-looks-a-little-off-lol/</ref>]]
==Biden regime propaganda apparatus==
[[File:Psaki communist.PNG|right|250px|thumb|[[Biden junta]] chief spokesperson [[Jen Psaki]] (right) wearing the [[Hammer and Sickle]]; like the [[Swastika]], display of the Hammer and Sickle is banned in many countries because of its association with a murderous ideology. As widely reported in mainstream fake new media, [[impeachment sham]] whistleblower [[Eric Ciaramella]] claimed Russian foreign minister [[Sergey Lavrov]] (above left) instructed President Trump to fire then FBI director [[James Comey]], triggering the appointment of Special Counsel [[Robert Mueller]].]]
:{{see also|Biden/Harris propaganda apparatus}}
Biden junta chief propagandist Jen Psaki outlined the regime's [[disinformation]] strategy. Psaki said [[Twitter]] is not a platform to disseminate news, rather it is a vehicle for talking to reporters. According to ''[[Politico]]'',<ref>https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021/05/06/whitehouses-favorite-reporters-492757</ref> there are 90 staffers who have new administration-branded Twitter accounts, most with “46” included in the handle. The reporters who are followed by staffers draw heavily from [[CNN]], [[Bloomberg]] and the [[Associated Press]]. Bloomberg News’ Jennifer Epstein is followed by more Biden administration staffers (39) than any other reporter. Next after Epstein are CNN’s Kaitlan Collins (37), PBS’ [[Yamiche Alcindor]] (36), AP’s Zeke Miller (34), and Bloomberg’s Jennifer Jacobs (33). The news outlets with the most White House staffers following them are: @nytimes, @cnn, @washingtonpost, @cnnpolitics and @cnnbrk.

White House staffers don’t follow many [[conservative]] outlets or reporters who work for them. Not even the ''[[Wall Street Journal]]'' makes the list of the top 15 news outlets they follow. Only 10 staffers follow [[Fox News]]’ Peter Doocy and 2 follow Fox News colleague Kristen Fisher.

[[Symone Sanders]], who was demoted by Biden to be [[Kamala Harris]]’ chief spokesperson because she is [[Black]], is the most popular. Outside of Biden, Harris, and their spouses, Symone Sanders has more internal followers than anyone except Psaki and [[Ron Klain]]. With 62 of the 94 accounts following her, she ranks higher than communications director Kate Bedingfield, deputy chief of staff Jen O’Malley Dillon, every Cabinet member, and even @WHCOVIDResponse.

[[Nancy Pelosi]] (29 followers) is the most followed lawmaker among staffers, followed by [[Chuck Schumer|Cuck Schumer]] (23 followers). The next three all hail from the party’s [[progressive]] wing: Rep. [[Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]] (D-N.Y.) and Sens. [[Elizabeth Warren]] (D-Mass.) and Bernie Sanders (DSA-Vt.).
[[File:CNN - Biden Townhall.jpg|left|350px|thumb|CNN nationally televised townhall on [[vaccination]]s with Joe Biden.<ref>https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/21/joe-biden-arranges-words-into-odd-cringe-worthy-sequence-during-heavily-structured-cnn-townhall-event-the-picture-is-priceless/</ref>]]
Thirty-three staffers follow [[Barack Obama]]. And other [[Obama administration]] alumni who haven’t returned to government are popular, too: former communications director and Clinton propagandist [[Jen Palmieri]] (17), [[Michelle Obama]] (15 followers), former deputy press secretary Eric Schultz (14 followers), [[David Axelrod]] (10 followers) and all four “Pod Save America” bros.

Naomi Biden, the most prominent of the first grandchildren (at least on Twitter), is followed by 10 White House brown nosers, narrowly edging out Kamala Harris' niece [[Meena Harris]] with eight. Meena, however, got the crucial @WHCOS follow from chief-of-staff Ron Klain while Naomi did not.

A website that tracks that tracks the YouTube page of the Biden White House confirmed that YouTube suppressed the dislikes on every single one of Joe Biden White House video. YouTube suppressed dislikes of Biden by as much as 600% on some videos.<ref>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/amazing-new-website-confirms-youtube-suppressing-dislikes-joe-biden-videos-much-600/</ref>

According to ''[[Politico]]'',<ref>https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021/06/28/the-white-houses-centrists-strike-back-493400</ref> White House and [[Health and Human Services]] officials were frustrated after being left with the task of cleaning up remarks about the Mexican border by [[Symone Sanders]], senior spokesperson for Harris. Sanders told reporters that Biden and Harris “have instructed [[Xavier Becerra|[HHS Secretary Xavier] Becerra]] to do a thorough investigation” of the El Paso army base where migrant children locked in cages. But Psaki and others had to tell ''[[The Guardian]]'' that no such investigation exists. “At no time did The White House recommend a probe of the facility,” a White House spokesman told ''The Guardian''.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/25/kamala-harris-us-mexico-border-visit-migration</ref> [[CBS News]] also reported that a White House official said that Biden did not order a formal investigation.<ref>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/biden-orders-probe-into-fort-bliss-base-holding-migrant-children/</ref>

A Rasmussen Poll conducted in July 2021 showed 58% of registered voters agree that the media is the "enemy of the people."<ref>https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/media/58_of_voters_agree_media_are_enemy_of_the_people</ref>

===Leftist show trials===
For a special prime time election year broadcast deemed by critics as a 'dog & baloney show',<ref>https://nypost.com/2022/06/07/nancy-pelosi-and-the-dems-jan-6-dog-baloney-show/</ref> a former ABC News propaganda specialist, James Goldston, who killed an expose from airing about [[Jeffrey Epstein]] a few years earlier, was hired by Democrats to stage manage the event.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/06/06/january-6-democrats-enlist-former-abc-news-president-accused-of-burying-jeffrey-epstein-story-as-adviser/</ref> No investigation of campaign finance abuse by a donation from legacy corporate media to the [[DCCC]] of free primetime airtime was ever conducted.

The evening newscasts on CBS, NBC & ABC average anywhere from 18 to 20 million viewers combined on a typical night. The [[Pelosi Panel]] primetime hearings took in just 11+ million viewers on those three same networks.<ref>https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/06/10/trainwreck-ratings-are-in-for-jan-6-committee-production-n577240</ref>

==Russia-Ukraine war==
{{See also|Russia-Ukraine war}}
In their drive to stoke hostilities between [[the West]] and Russia, corporate media ignored the fact that the U.S. and NATO forces have been supporting openly Neo-Nazi paramilitaries in Ukraine for many years. A MintPress study of the op-ed pages of ''The New York Times'', ''The Washington Post'' and ''The Wall Street Journal'' found that only one of 91 articles published in January 2022 mentioned this connection at all, with far more asserting that Vladimir Putin himself is Hitler incarnate. Around 90% of opinion columns pushed a “get tough on Russia” message, with anti-war voices few and far between.<ref>https://www.mintpressnews.com/279612-2/279612/</ref> “People who take at face value the Western media coverage would have a very distorted perception of the Ukraine conflict and its origin,” Ivan Katchanovski, Professor of Political Studies at the University of Ottawa, told MintPress, adding:
[[File:Wolfsangel.PNG|right|300px|thumb|Ukrainian flag with Nazi SS Wolfsangel insignia. Ukranian Nazis served in the Nazi SS Galacia Division to fight against Russia in [[World War II]] and are known for horrific atrocities against Russian, [[Polish]], and [[Jewish]] civilians.<ref>https://spzh.news/en/zashhita-very/68324-ss-galichina-uniaty-kholokost-i-zhizny-v-sostojanii-lzhi</ref>]]
{{quotebox-float|"They omit or deny that there is a civil war in Donbas even though the majority of scholars who [have] published or presented concerning this conflict in Western academic venues classify it as a civil war with Russian military intervention. The Western media also omitted that recent ‘unity marches’ in Kharkiv and Kyiv and a staged training of civilians, including a grandmother, were organized and led by the far right, in particular, the [[Azov Battalion|Neo-Nazi Azov [Battalion].]]”<ref>https://twitter.com/I_Katchanovski/status/1490034084600594436</ref>}}
Conducting a civilian training operation in the middle of the Donbas city of Mariupol while a crowd of Western journalists looked on, Azov units showed locals how to use rifles. The image of a silver-haired, 79-year-old “babushka” staring down the sights of an [[AK-47]] went viral around the world, allowing the media to construct an “everyone in brave Ukraine is doing their part to oppose an imminent Russian invasion” narrative. The story was covered by a host of outlets, including [[ABC News]], [[MSNBC]], [[Newsweek]], the [[BBC]], ''[[The Guardian]]'' and The Financial Times, as well as by media in [[Ireland]], [[Australia]], [[Israel]], [[Denmark]], [[Thailand]] and [[Indonesia]]. Images from the training day featured on the front cover of six national British newspapers on February 14, 2022.

This was all despite the fact that the Wolfsangel insignia of the many Azov soldiers instructing the grandmother is clearly visible in a number of the images. The Wolfsangel was the crest of the infamous [[SS]] brigades, [[Hitler]]’s elite paramilitary units that carried out the extermination of millions of people (including countless Ukrainians) in Nazi death camps across Europe. The image is widely used by Neo-Nazi groups in the U.S. and is considered a hate symbol by the [[Anti-Defamation League]]. Azov’s original commander, politician Andriy Biletsky, has stated that he sees Ukraine’s mission as to “lead the white races of the world in a final crusade … against [[Semite]]-led subhumans.” None of the outlets above mentioned the fact that they were profiling Neo-Nazis.<ref>https://www.mintpressnews.com/documents-reveal-us-ned-spent-22m-promoting-anti-russia-narrative-ukraine/279734/</ref>

The [[liberal media]] reported that Russia -- which [[Leftists]] despise because it opposes the [[homosexual agenda]] and is [[pro-life]], and [[neoconservatives]] despise because it opposes their pet projects in the [[Middle East]] and [[Central Asia]] -- would attack Ukraine on February 16, 2022, which did not happen.<ref>https://www.voanews.com/a/on-day-russia-was-meant-to-invade-ukrainians-go-about-their-affairs/6443905.html</ref>

Many of these fake news stories cited below came from the mouth of Volodomyr Zelensky.

On March 10, 2022 [[Facebook]] and [[Instagram]] reversed longstanding policies and approved open support for [[Nazism]] on their platforms and modified [[violent]] [[hate speech]] restrictions to allow advocating death to Russians.<ref>https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/10/facebook-and-instagram-say-it-is-okay-to-support-nazism-in-ukraine-and-they-modify-terms-allowing-advocacy-for-death-to-russians/</ref>

===Propaganda war===
[[File:Guardian reports on Nazi defeat.PNG|right|300px|thumb|''[[The Guardian]]'' report on the defeat of [[Nazi]]s in [[Azovstal]].<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2022/may/17/evacuation-of-azovstal-plant-in-mariupol-in-pictures</ref>]]
According to Dan Cohen, the Washington DC correspondent for ''Behind The Headlines'', more than 150 public relations firms have joined the Maidan regime's propaganda blitz.<ref>https://www.prweek.com/article/1748159/global-pr-community-rallies-help-ukraine-government-comms</ref> Ukraine’s propaganda strategy earned praise from a [[NATO]] commander who told the ''Washington Post'', “They are really excellent in stratcom — media, info ops, and also [[psy-ops]].”<ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/03/16/ukraine-zelensky-information-war/</ref> The head of Ukraine’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs digital ecosystem for global communication<ref>https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/turb.png</ref> distributed a dossier folder with materials instructing public relations agencies on “key messages,”<ref>https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/turb1.png</ref> content for debunked propaganda constructs, approved language, and [[Neo-Nazi]] propaganda.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20220305150557/https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1QE65-hyob6BzyFwYheQXLZjjlxnNsrrs</ref> Many elements within the dossier folder use [[xenophobic]] and [[racist]] language, and some are explicit in their praise of prominent Ukrainian Neo-Nazis, including C14 leader Yevhen Karas who boasted that “we have fun killing”, the [[Pravy Sektor]] [[fascist]] paramilitary, and the Neo-Nazi [[Azov Battalion]]. Multiple images call for “[[Banderist|Banderite smoothies]]” – a reference to [[Molotov cocktail]]s named for the late [[OUN-B]] commander [[Stephan Bandera]], who collaborated with [[Nazi Germany]] in the [[mass murder]] of [[Jews]] and ethnic [[Polish|Poles]] during [[World War II]]. Another image depicts a book titled the: ''Encyclopedia of Incurable Diseases,'' listing Russia, [[Belorussia]], [[North Korea]], [[Syria]], and [[Eritrea]].<ref>https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/@juliasmal_Book-scaled.jpg</ref>

“Such Russian clichés like ‘referendum in Crimea’ or ‘will of the people of Crimea’ are absolutely unacceptable,” the dossier states, in reference to the 2014 overwhelmingly successful [[Crimean Annexation]] referendum. The ddossier deems unacceptable the terms “Civil war in Donbass,” “Internal conflict,” “Conflict in Ukraine” and “Ukrainian crisis” to describe the Ukrainian military’s war with the breakaway republics of the Donbass region. In place of these phrases, the dossier calls for the use of the terms “Armed aggression by the Russian Federation in Donbass, international armed conflict, Russian war against Ukraine, Russian-Ukrainian armed conflict.”

===Ukraine missile attack on Poland===
[[File:FT Zelensky.jpg|right|300px|thumb|The globalist mouthpiece ''Financial Times'' of London, which led the world in spreading Russophobia and cheerleading for war, openly criticized Zelensky's lying about Ukraine's false flag attack on a NATO ally to incite direct NATO involvement with troops and risk global thermonuclear war.<ref>https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/11/ukraine-open-thread-2022-201.html</ref>]]
On November 15, 2022 two Ukrainian [[S-300]] missiles, alleged to have been launched to shoot down a Russian cruise missile, were fired westward and hit a Polish grain storage facility, killing two civilians. The [[Polish]] government, Ukrainian government, the ''[[Associated Press]]'',<ref>https://apnews.com/article/nato-ap-news-alert-europe-poland-government-and-politics-ba48101fd25c86e68e57dc56fe2adf80</ref> most of all Western propaganda media and so-called national security and intelligence experts called for invoking NATO Article 5.<ref>https://twitter.com/anders_aslund/status/1592616431291535360</ref> Zelensky advisor [[Mykhailo Podolyak]] declared that the strikes came from Russia. Ukrainian foreign minister Dmytro Kuleba claimed Russian denials were a [[conspiracy theory]] and that “No one should buy Russian propaganda or amplify its messages."<ref>https://twitter.com/DmytroKuleba/status/1592632386751434752?s=20&t=TtnVQsVODlidTZoknWqWpg</ref> Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelensky tweeted that the “Russian attack on collective security in the Euro-Atlantic is a significant escalation” of the conflict.<ref>https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/15/world/kyiv-strikes-russia-zelensky-peace-intl/index.html</ref>

However an AWAC radar plane and other ISR aircraft (intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance) aircraft regularly flying in the region, and ground radar, tracked the missiles' trajectory and determined the [[Kyiv regime]] had launched the missiles. That did not prevent an anonymous "senior U.S. intelligence official" from reporting to the ''Associated Press'' that Russia had fired the missiles at Poland. The [[fake news]] story was disseminated globally, as all fake news stories emanating from Kyiv, and its [[CIA]] counterparts in Kyiv, have been disseminated globally to world media for the entirety of 2022 and late 2021.

CNN broadcast a statement from [[Ukrainian Nazi]] propagandist Mykhailo Podolyak, “Russia has turned the eastern part of the European continent into an unpredictable battlefield. Intent, means of execution, risks, escalation – it is all coming from Russia alone. And there can be no other explanation for any missile incident here."<ref>https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/16/europe/poland-missile-russia-ukraine-investigation-wednesday-intl-hnk</ref>

When called out on the [[lie]]s, Ukrainian dictator Volodymyr Zelensky doubled down.

===Bombing Babi Yar===

On March 1, 2022 Zelensky claimed that Russians had bombed Babi Yar, a ravine in Kyiv that was also the site of massacres committed by Nazi forces and Ukrainian collaborators during [[World War II]].<ref>https://twitter.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1498697538085568514</ref> Some 33,771 [[Jewish]] civilians were murdered by the Nazis and their Ukrainian collaborators from Kyiv there. Zelensky’s chief of staff reportedly confirmed that the Russians bombed the site.<ref>https://twitter.com/LahavHarkov/status/1498686224462188549</ref> Zelensky's tweet has more than 300,000 likes and over 75,000 retweets.

On March 2, Israeli journalist Ron Ben Yisha reported after touring the site that the memorial had not been destroyed or damaged, as Zelensky and his officials claimed. Translated from the Israeli news website ynet:
[[File:Zelensky fake news.jpeg|right|350px|thumb|Ukrainian defense plans called for the heavy use of fake news to win the hearts and minds of Western audiences.<ref>https://contra.substack.com/p/world-war-reddit?s=r</ref>]]
{{quotebox-float|"The memorial site in Babi Yar was neither destroyed nor damaged. After touring all over the large site I can report with certainty that no monument was damaged and no bomb, missile or shell hit the grounds. The closest impact to Babi Yar was in the Kiev media and television tower complex, about 300 meters from the new monument, and about a kilometer from the old monument </ref>to the victims of the WWII massacre."<ref>https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/sky0frhg5</ref>}}
Zelensky and his officials lied to the world. Worse, their lie suggested that all those who chose inaction were essentially collaborators in the next [[holocaust]].

===Zelensky in combat===
While Volodymyr Zelensky was reportedly still in Ukraine, the viral pictures of him in combat fatigues supposedly commanding troops on the front line were all old photographs of border inspections more than a year old.

===Ghost of Kyiv===

A video of a Ukrainian fighter pilot dubbed the “Ghost of Kiev/Kyiv” showed a jet supposedly shooting down multiple Russian fighter jets, causing several casualties. Social media users were quick to champion the pilot as a “hero” despite the video actually tracing its origins to a video game. The video was created with the 2008 game “Digital Combat Simulator” and was first shared via YouTube, where the original poster acknowledged the footage was from a simulator.<ref>https://gamerant.com/ghost-of-kyiv-ukraine-video-fake-digital-combat-simulator/</ref> ''The New York Times'' tweeted: "Viral stories like the Ghost of Kyiv — a Ukrainian pilot who supposedly single-handedly shot down several Russian fighter jets — are of questionable veracity. But they're a key part of Ukraine's war plan, experts say, as it tries to keep morale high."<ref>https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1499516258781437953</ref>

=== Snake Island Martyrs===
Thirteen Ukrainian border guards stationed on the country’s Snake Island, located in the [[Black Sea]], were quickly alleged to have been killed by Russian forces, at the onset of Russia’s invasion. Audio recordings of what was allegedly their final moment went viral on [[social media]], with a Russian warship demanding: “I ask you to lay down your arms and surrender to avoid bloodshed and unnecessary deaths. Otherwise, you will be bombed.”

“Russian warship,” came the reply, “go f**k yourself.”

The 13 Ukrainians, the country’s president Volodymyr Zelensky said, died “heroically.” He later promised to recognize each solder with the title of Hero of Ukraine. Days later, however, the Ukraine Navy revealed that the guards had actually been “taken captive by Russian occupiers” and were all still alive. After running the story as fact, even [[CNN]] was forced to add the following update: “The Ukrainian soldiers on Snake Island were all feared to have been killed in the Russian attack on February 24. On February 28, however, the Ukrainian Navy released a statement saying the troops were ‘alive and well,’ but were forced to surrender ‘due to the lack of ammunition.’” Evidence of their survival had emerged before February 28. Footage appeared to show Snake Island soldiers receiving water and rations from their captors.<ref>https://twitter.com/RWApodcast/status/1497467132950548486</ref>

===Facebook allows hate speech===
On March 10, 2022 [[Facebook]] approved support for [[Nazism]] on their platform.<ref>https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/03/10/facebook-and-instagram-say-it-is-okay-to-support-nazism-in-ukraine-and-they-modify-terms-allowing-advocacy-for-death-to-russians/</ref> Facebook allows praise for the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion. Previously the group was labeled as a "Dangerous Individuals and Organizations," which the platform previously moderated strictly in discussions forums.<ref>https://theintercept.com/2022/02/24/ukraine-facebook-azov-battalion-russia/</ref> Facebook also allows for [[violence]] against Russians and the calls for the death of Vladimir Putin or Belarusian President [[Alexander Lukashenko]] will be allowed to stay up on the platform.<ref>https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-facebook-instagram-temporarily-allow-calls-for-violence-against-russians</ref> Andy Stoner, who made the decision to suppress the ''[[New York Post]]'' reporting on the [[Hunter Biden]] laptop<ref>[[Biden_family_corruption_timeline#October_2020]]</ref> two weeks before the disputed [[2020 presidential election|2020 US presidential election]], made the announcement for Facebook.<ref>https://www.aim.org/aim-column/as-meta-changes-policy-on-calls-for-violence-one-thing-is-clear-government-points-stick-big-tech-uses-stick/</ref> Zelensky thanked Facebook on [[Twitter]] for helping to win the propaganda war.<ref>https://summit.news/2022/03/14/zelensky-thanks-zuckerberg-for-helping-him-win-the-propaganda-war/</ref>

===Nuclear power plant attacked===
Reports of a nuclear power plant being attacked by Russia were fake news designed to convince NATO to set up a No-fly Zone. Western nuclear experts condemned the Kyiv regime for causing panic and misleading people.<ref>https://twitter.com/ASBMilitary/status/1499565665652461573</ref><ref>https://twitter.com/energybants/status/1499573995657646106</ref> A training center over a mile away from the 6 nuclear reactors were on fire,<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekWRes-pAD4&t=442s</ref> and the powerplant administration confirmed there was no radiation risk. Zelensky and the Kyiv regime essentially lied about an imminent meltdown at the nuclear power plant.

===PBS blurs image of Hitler accomplice behind Ukrainian mayor===
[[File:PBS Bandera.PNG|right|300px|thumb|[[PBS]] blurred the image of Ukrainian nazi collaborator and hero Stepan Bandera in a broadcast interview with a Ukrainian mayor.]]
U.S. state media [[Public Broadcasting Service]] (PBS) published and promoted an interview with a renowed Neo-Nazi Ukrainian mayor, without disclosing the politician’s allegiances to World War II German leader Adolf Hitler and Ukraine’s own Nazi sympathizer Stepan Bandera. The interview comes just days after PBS published an article downplaying the links between Neo-Nazi politicians and Ukraine’s current political situation. PBS hosted Mayor Artem Semenikhin of Konotop, ''The National Pulse'' reported.<ref>https://thenationalpulse.com/2022/03/04/pbs-hosts-neo-nazi-ukraine-mayor-blurs-image-of-hitler-accomplice-behind-him/</ref> In 2015 the ''Jerusalem Post'' reported: "Two months after local elections were held across Ukraine, residents of the small northern city of Konotop are expressing shock and dismay over the behavior of newly chosen Mayor Artem Semenikhin of the neo-Nazi [[Svoboda]] party. According to reports, Semenikhin drives around in a car bearing the number 14/88, a numerological reference to the phrases “we must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children” and “Heil Hitler”; replaced the picture of President Petro Poroshenko in his office with a portrait of Ukrainian national leader and Nazi collaborator Stepan Bandera; and refused to fly the city’s official flag at the opening meeting of the city council because he objected to the [[star of David]] emblazoned on it. The flag also features a [[Muslim]] crescent and a cross."<ref>https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/ukrainian-jews-shocked-after-city-elects-neo-nazi-mayor-437975</ref>

===Shooting civilians===
Ukrainian journalist Anastasiia Lapatina shared a video that she claimed showed Russians shooting at civilians.<ref>https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1500118411912916996</ref> But that didn't happen in the video, which Lapatina later admitted. Lapatina also writes for ''The New York Times''.<ref>https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1500305602928525313</ref>

===''New York Times'' reporter killed===
On March 14, 2022 news headlines in [[the West]] claimed that a ''[[New York Times]]'' journalist was killed in Ukraine. Brent Renaud was wearing a NY Times badge and lanyard at the time of his death. He had not worked for the ''Times'' since 2015. ''NYT'' denied that Brent Renaud was working for the ''NYT'' at the time of his death. According to ''[[Gateway Pundit]]'', it appears Renaud was some sort of Intel collector for the US. Renaud was killed in Ukrainian-held territory. ''The New York Times'' confirmed Renaud was killed at a Ukrainian checkpoint.<ref>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/03/update-american-reporter-brent-renaud-killed-ukrainian-checkpoint-behind-russian-front-likely-friendly-fire-incident/</ref>

===Miss Ukraine joins militia===
[[ABC News]] reported that Miss Ukraine beauty contest winner took up arms to defend her country against Russia. In fact, the photo from an old photo shoot depicted her with a toy gun.<ref>https://www.dailywire.com/news/former-miss-ukraine-poses-with-rifle-i-had-a-normal-life-just-on-wednesday</ref>

===Drama theater bombing===
Ukrainian propaganda ministry reported, "On 16 March, the Russian forces dropped a bomb on a drama theatre where up to 1300 civilians were being sheltered. The number of casualties is still unknown.” However, as Max Blumenthal reported the explosion appears to be the result of a [[false flag]] operation designed by the Neo-Nazi Azov Battalion and aimed at triggering a NATO intervention.<ref>https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/18/bombing-mariupol-theater-ukrainian-azov-nato-intervention/</ref>

===Mass rape===
Lyudmyla Denisova, the Ukrainian Parliament's Commissioner for Human Rights, was fired when no evidence could be found of her allegations of 400 instances of mass rape by Russian soldiers.<ref>https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/russia-ukraine-latest-news-2022-05-31/card/ukraine-s-parliament-dismisses-human-rights-chief-1kQWT7i0GHXyeqh6spRe</ref> 238 Members of Parliament voted her out. Denisova was accused of failing to perform her duties and in particular of spreading fake news and propaganda about atrocities supposedly committed by Russian troops in Ukraine. Such actions only served to tarnish Ukraine’s image, MPs have argued. Other complaints were that Denisova had failed to organize humanitarian corridors and POW exchanges.<ref>https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/05/rape-allegations-against-russian-troops-in-ukraine-were-fake.html#more</ref>

The fake news stories stemming from high ranking Ukrainian officials were widely disseminated by ''TIME'' magazine, CNN, ''Newsweek'' and other fake news sources.<ref>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ukraine-fires-human-rights-chief-perpetuating-russian-troop-systematic-rape-stories</ref>

==2020 Presidential election==
{{See also|2020 Presidential election|Fake news in the 2020 presidential election|Russia 3.0}}
[[File:Chris Cuomo promotes whites supremacy.PNG|right|300px|thumb|U.S. Armed Forces were [[segregate]]d until 1947, women had no combat roles until the 1980s, and [[homosexual]]s were barred from military service until 1993. It was only straight white males who stormed the beaches of Normandy and defeated fascism.]]
===Marxist insurrection===

{{See also|2020 Leftwing insurrection}}
During the [[Marxist]] insurrections of 2020 NPR made the false claim that alleged "[[white supremacist]]s" were using vehicles to run down alleged "peaceful" rioters based on an edited video from [[Louisville]], Kentucky.<ref>https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/06/22/journalism-is-dead-part-9999-receipt-filled-thread-details-what-really-happened-in-louisville-with-driver-who-allegedly-struck-protester/</ref> The allusion was intended to bring to mind a 2017 [[Charlottesville]] incident in which a protester was run over. In Alamosa, [[Colorado]] a 27 year old white [[Black Lives Matter]] protestor shot an innocent driver in the head who was trying to avoid protesters blocking the street at an intersection.<ref>https://krdo.com/news/2020/06/06/video-shows-moments-surrounding-alamosa-protest-shooting/</ref> Another was shot in [[Provo, Utah]].<ref>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/30/black-lives-matter-protester-shoots-suv-driver-in-/</ref> After riling leftists with false reporting, NPR later had to walk back its claim about the Louisville incident when it was discovered that the driver, who was black, was in fact the victim of a violent [[leftist]] assault.<ref>https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/22/don-jr-calls-for-defunding-npr-after-it-gets-caught-using-wrong-photo-by-mistake-937761</ref>

==CNN's promotion of fake news==
[[File:Velshi-riot.jpeg|left|350px|thumb|The moment Americans realized that the mainstream media had no shame in lying to your face captured on video.<ref>https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/05/29/msnbc-reporter-front-burning-liquor-store-protest-not-generally-speaking-unruly/</ref><ref>https://youtu.be/SZnDq3vd1F0</ref>]]
In first half of 2017, [[CNN]]'s market share relative to its competitors saw a marked decline.<ref>[http://www.dailywire.com/news/18088/death-spiral-along-its-credibility-cnn-ratings-john-nolte Death Spiral: Along With Its Credibility, CNN Ratings Collapse], Daily Wire, 2017.</ref> In addition, it faced repeated losses of its credibility through its lapses of journalistic judgment and ethical lapses.<ref>
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FpMb6dATfo CNN faces credibility crisis over Trump coverage]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-X2jG5hdl4 Tucker: When did CNN become internet morality police?]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOOYIa-sOB4 CNN IS FAKE NEWS] by Stefan Molyneux
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjkdfdFbeFk The news keeps getting worse for CNN as #CNNBlackmail trends]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCewpjd2Yfc CNN Threatens Reddit User For Exercising Free Speech | #CNNBlackmail]
</ref> President [[Donald Trump]] publicly says CNN produces "fake news" and he also told a CNN reporter that CNN produces "very fake news".<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-7nkj26edA Trump to CNN: "Very Fake News"]</ref> Subsequently, CNN has been derided as being "FNN: Fake News Network".<ref>[https://insider.foxnews.com/2017/06/27/president-trump-blasts-cnn-retracted-russia-story-fake-news 'Fake News Network': Trump Blasts CNN for Retracted Russia Story], Fox News Network</ref>

On March 28, 2018, CNN anchor Chris Cuomo falsely claimed that "no one [is] calling for Second Amendment repeal", even though, former Supreme Court Justice [[John Paul Stevens]], among other left-wingers, had very recently and notably called for just that.<ref>Multiple references:
*Nolte, John (March 28, 2018). [https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/03/28/fake-news-cnns-cuomo-says-no-one-calling-for-2nd-amendment-repeal-they-are/ Fake News: CNN’s Cuomo Says ‘No One Calling for 2nd Amendment Repeal’ (They Are)]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved March 28, 2018.
*Kugle, Andrew (March 28, 2018). [https://freebeacon.com/issues/cnns-cuomo-no-one-calling-repeal-second-amendment/ CNN’s Cuomo: No One Is Calling for Repeal of Second Amendment]. ''The Washington Free Beacon''. Retrieved March 28, 2018.
*Adams, Becket (March 28, 2018). [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/cnn-host-apparently-unaware-that-several-people-have-called-for-the-repeal-of-the-second-amendment CNN host apparently unaware that people have indeed called for the repeal of the Second Amendment]. ''Washington Examiner''. Retrieved March 28, 2018.</ref>

In 2019, CNN falsely labeled liberal [[Democratic party|Democrat Virginia governor]] [[Ralph Northam]] a "Republican" when reporting a racist photo of himself while in medical school.<ref>Gualtieri, Allison Elyse (February 2, 2019). [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnn-misidentifies-virginia-gov-ralph-northam-as-a-republican-during-his-apology-for-racist-yearbook-photo CNN misidentifies Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam as a Republican during his apology for racist yearbook photo]. ''Washington Examiner''. Retrieved February 2, 2019.</ref><ref>Rodriguez, Katherine (February 1, 2019). [https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/01/watch-cnn-chyron-labels-virginia-gov-ralph-northam-a-republican/ WATCH: CNN Chyron Labels Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam a Republican]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved February 2, 2019.</ref>
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==Russiagate in a nutshell==
{{See also|Ukrainian intelligence}}
[[File:Maddow Trump Russia.jpg|rigt|300px|thumb|Rachel Maddow Nets $30 Million Annually in New MSNBC Deal (Report).<ref>https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/rachel-maddow-nets-30-million-170143455.html</ref>]]
The scam that Donald Trump was using a secret server to communicate with a Russian bank was promoted by Hillary Clinton herself, and touted by media outlets led by ''[[Slate]]'' magazine. Like so much that comprised Russiagate, it was a total fraud concocted by the Democrat National Committee and its media allies.

[[Michael Sussmann]], a DNC-linked lawyer and partners with Clinton lawyer [[Marc Elias]], fabricated a Trump/Russia narrative, fed it to DNC operatives masquerading as journalists, had Hillary trumpet it, then lied to FBI about who he worked for.

An FBI lawyer, [[Kevin Clinesmith]], pled guilty to lying to the [[FISA court]] in order to obtain warrants to spy on former Trump campaign official [[Carter Page]]. The real [[criminal]]s weren't people colluding with Russia but those who perpetrated the Russiagate fraud.

Sussmann helped ''New York Times'' national security reporter Charlie Savage promote his book. Savage not only was the one who spread the CIA lie about "Russian bounties" in Afghanistan, but also the fake news that the [[Biden regime]] killed a suicide bomber on his way to the Kabul airport with a drone strike when, in fact, it was a family of 10, including 7 children and a US aid worker.<ref>https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1438495680109162496</ref>

One of the journalists who most aggressively promoted the fake Trump/Alfa-Bank server story was Natasha Bertrand, who was at the center of so many Russiagate frauds including the ''[[Steele Dossier]]'' and got promoted over and over for it, as of 2021 working at CNN.

The corporate media was so heavily invested in the Trump/Russia conspiracy fraud, and hatred for Trump remained sufficiently high in 2021 that the gigantic fraud the media perpetrated on the country for 5 years remained unacknowledged. The journalists who committed the most fraud in Russiagate were the ones most rewarded. [[Glenn Greenwald]] summed it up: "It really is this simple: in the corporate media, the more you lie, the more you get promoted, as long as you lie for the right cause and the right people (the security state)."<ref>https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2021/09/16/russiagate-in-a-nutshell-glenn-greenwald-sums-up-the-latest-on-john-durhams-investigation-pulls-hillary-clintons-old-tweet-about-trumps-covert-server/</ref>

==Deep state and fake news==
:{{See also|Media intelligence complex}}
In the synergy between the U.S. intelligence apparatus and their media agents, the CIA, DOJ and State Department have specific outlets assigned to public relations.

A long-tracked pattern reflects the DOJ and FBI leak their PR needs to the ''New York Times''. The preferred outlet for the U.S. State Department is CNN; and the ''Washington Pos''t generally comes out first with leaks in defense of the CIA agenda. This pattern has been remarkably consistent for years.

The [[mainstream media]] worked with the deep state intelligence agencies to promote fake news regarding the supposed [[Trump-Russia scandal]],<ref>Jasper, William F. (April 25, 2017). [https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/25863-deep-state-and-fake-news Deep State and Fake News]. ''The New American''. Retrieved January 3, 2018.</ref> and the alleged Russian hacking of [[John Podesta]] and DNC emails.

Sometime before January 6, 2017, [[DNI]] [[James Clapper]] briefed opposition research talking points, manufactured by the Clinton campaign in the ''[[Steele dossier]]'', to [[Jake Tapper]] of CNN. The salacious innuendo lacked verification and a " news hook" for CNN to report. Clapper instructed [[FBI]] Director [[James Comey]] to brief President-elect Trump on the allegations. Clapper immediately leaked the fact Trump had been briefed, creating the "news hook" CNN was looking for to publicize the existence of the ''Steele dossier''. FBI counter-intelligence investigator [[Peter Strzok]] then used the fake news report to justify interviewing [[National Security Advisor]] [[Michael Flynn]] and lay a perjury trap,<ref>https://saraacarter.com/who-will-investigate-the-fbi-and-doj-top-secret-leaks-to-the-media/?utm=pushnami</ref> thwarting the new president's [[foreign policy]] agenda. Clapper was rewarded with a job at CNN afterward.<ref>''[https://www.scribd.com/document/377590825/HPSCI-Final-Report-on-Russian-Active-Measures-Redacted-Release Russian Active Measures in the 2016 Election''], House Permanent Sub Committee on Intelligence, March 22, 2017, pp. 107-108.</ref><ref>[https://www.themarketswork.com/2018/04/27/clapper-leaks-twice-to-cnn-brennan-stands-in-the-shadows-a-russian-narrative-is-born/ Clapper Leaks Twice to CNN. Brennan Stands in the Shadows. A Russian Narrative is Born,] Jeff Carlson, April 27, 2018.</ref><ref>[https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/20/anatomy-of-a-political-smear-confirmed-james-comey-january-briefing-was-scripted-by-clapper-and-brennan-to-create-media-narrative/ Anatomy of a Political Smear Confirmed – James Comey January Briefing Was Scripted by Clapper and Brennan To Create Media Narrative], by Sundance, April 20, 2018. theconservativetreehouse.com</ref>

== Identifying fake news ==
Identifying fake news is basically separating the wheat from the chaff.

The International Federation of Library Associations and Institutions (IFLA) has a checklist to assist people to recognize fake news:<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://blogs.ifla.org/lpa/files/2017/01/How-to-Spot-Fake-News-1.jpg|title=How to Spot Fake News|date=January 27, 2017|website=IFLA blogs|access-date=February 16, 2017}}</ref>
# Consider the source (to understand its mission and purpose)
# Read beyond the headline (to understand the whole story)
# Check the authors (to see if they are real and credible)
# Assess the supporting sources (to ensure they support the claims)
# Check the date of publication (to see if the story is relevant and up to date)
# Ask if it is a joke (to determine if it is meant to be [[satire]])
# Review your own biases (to see if they are affecting your judgment)
# Ask experts (to get confirmation from independent people with knowledge).

===Reputation of the author===
Ultimately, a judgment about fake news rests on the reputation of its author, and the reputation and editorial stance of a news organization or book publisher. Longevity is not in and of itself proof a publication or publishing house is an established reputable service. ''[[Newsweek]]'' magazine, for instance, was once established as a "moderate" or right-leaning weekly news source to counter the perceived leftwing bias of ''[[Time magazine|Time]]'' magazine. It has since ceased publication as a print journal, and the name - ''Newsweek'' - was sold as an established, existing tradename, only to reappear online as a mainstream news source for some of the most outrageous left-wing lunacy.

In the United States the ''[[New Republic]]'', established before World War I, is considered the granddaddy of modern liberal thought, whereas the ''[[National Review]]'' established in the 1950s is considered its modern conservative counterpart. ''[[The Nation]]'' has long been deemed the voice of more marginalized [[progressive]] thinking. While staff management and editorial views have evolved over many decades, any author moving from one of these publications to another generally have professional reputations as traditional ethical journalists, unlike modern broadcast journalists, or what passes as "ethics" taught in some of the nation's most prestigious journalism and broadcast schools today.

Among book publishers, St. Martin's Press is considered a mainstream book publisher for [[Democrat]]s which no other mainstream publisher would stake its reputation on, and Regnery is considered its [[Republican]] counterpart.

The challenge for young readers is to discern good, solid, factual reporting in the internet era, at a time when an explosion of anonymous blog sites are threatening the existence of a dying print and cable news broadcast industry.<ref>A prime example of [[Joseph Schumpeter]]'s [[creative destruction]].</ref> Again the reputation of the author is all pervasive. This requires follow-up and holding the author (whether anonymous or a pseudonym) accountable, and not seeking [[confirmation bias]] in how a reader informs themselves.

===Holding the author accountable===
As can be seen, the reputation of a news organization or individual journalist can change over time, to either improve or lose credibility.

''[[The New Yorker]]'' for example, once had a reputation for vigorous fact-checking. However, after such stories on the credibility of [[Wikipedia]], its fictionalized account of the death of [[bin Laden]], its hit piece on the person and character of ''American Sniper'' hero [[Chris Kyle]], and it's partisan, sloppy, and outrageous attacks on [[Brett Kavanaugh]], have called ''The New Yorker's'' viability as a reputable source into question.

Ronan Farrow, who writes for the ''New Yorker'' appeared as a bright and shining rising star in the field of investigative journalism, at a moment when public perception of journalists was at its lowest. Farrow fearlessly wrote about the deviant sexual predations of Democrat kingpins and mega-donors such as [[Harvey Weinstein]] and others, for which he won a [[Pulitzer Prize]]. Farrow even described the intimidation tactics wealthy predators use against female victims and himself by hired thugs and ex-intelligence agents to silence people. Farrow was a hero of the [[MeToo movement]]. Then Farrow tossed his reputation to the wind by signing his name to unsubstantiated smears, which his own reporting debunked, in a vicious partisan smear of [[Judge Brett Kavanaugh]]. Farrow sold out, and his actions now have the opposite effect of adding credibility to the defense and rehabilitation of Harvey Weinstein.

===Circular reporting or wrap up smear===
A '''wrap up smear''',<ref>https://youtu.be/SMJdDwQlcc8</ref> also known as a '''circular reporting''', '''circular journalism''' or an '''echo chamber''', occurs when [[partisan]] sources [[leak]] false information to journalists then use those same published accounts to validate their claims.

Several instances in recent memory illustrate the technique during the [[Trump-Russia collusion hoax]] and the [[Kavanaugh smear]]. In Trump-Russia, a false allegation that Trump colluded with Russia was [[leak]]ed by Democratic operatives to get news organizations to publicize the claim, then biased [[Obama administration]] employees used those news stories as supposed evidence to obtain FBI [[surveillance]] warrants on the Trump campaign.

CNN, the ''Washington Post'', the ''New York Times'' and numerous other organizations reported fabricated information by anonymous sources throughout 2016, 2017, and 2018. The published reports became the basis of the [[Trump-Russia conspiracy hoax]] and [[FISA abuse]] scandal. When mainstream media published the false information, the Obama FBI, Justice Department, CIA and [[DNI]] used the fake news (originating with themselves) as supposed corroboration from "independent journalists" to begin investigations, interviews, perjury traps, seek warrants, perform [[Gang of Eight]] briefings, and appoint a [[Mueller office|Special Prosecutor]] to pursue political objectives.
*[[Michael Sussmann]] who worked with the general counsel of the Clinton campaign and the DNC gave fake evidence to the FBI and ''New York Times'' that a webserver in Trump Tower was communicating with a Russian bank. The smears were found to be without foundation.<ref>https://themarketswork.com/2019/01/21/baker-testimony-reveals-perkins-coie-lawyer-provided-fbi-with-information-on-alfa-bank-allegations/</ref>
*[[Christopher Steele]] who worked for Hillary Clinton gave false evidence to the FBI and numerous mainstream media outlets that [[Carter Page]] was a Russian spy, when in fact Page was a former FBI informant who helped jail Russian spies.
*Steele gave bogus sexual innuendo about Trump to the FBI; [[DNI]] [[James Clapper]] leaked to CNN than that Trump had been briefed on the information, thus creating a "Breaking News" story.<ref>https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/20/anatomy-of-a-political-smear-confirmed-james-comey-january-briefing-was-scripted-by-clapper-and-brennan-to-create-media-narrative/</ref>

In the Kavanaugh smear, false sexual abuse allegations were leaked by Senate Democrat committee staffers to produce sensationalized headlines and martial public pressure in an emotional cause.

Sen. [[Dianne Feinstein]] or a staffer leaked a letter from Dr. [[Christine Blasey Ford]] to the ''Washington Post'' alleging notes from a therapist and a polygraph exam were material evidence of a sexual assault, sparking a hue and cry on the [[Left]] for extended nomination hearings and FBI investigation of [[Judge Kavanaugh]]. The alleged "material evidence" was never provided to the FBI or Senate Judiciary Committee for examination and consideration, and the accuser caught in a series of conflicting sworn public statements.

===Clickbait===
The most common example of fake news is the "click bait" ads that appear on social media sites saying "Hollywood prepares to say good-bye to [name of celebrity]" implying that the celebrity has just died. People then click on the ad to visit a website to learn about the celebrity's death, which boosts the number of page views on that site. However, the fake news will trend if more people start re-tweeting or sharing the item without visiting the underlying website in the belief that the celebrity has just died.
[[File:98% of straight men will not date trans women because of hate.jpeg|thumb|right|225px|A typical fake news poll.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdQZkG2dOkE</ref>]]

===Mangled statistics===
A ''Washington Post'' article claimed that 4.2 percent of American children had witnessed a shooting<ref>[https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/20/19-children-are-shot-every-day-in-the-united-states/ 19 kids are shot every day in the United States]</ref> (this is one in 24). This was based on a survey question which they (deliberately? negligently?) misinterpreted:
:The actual question the researchers asked was, "At any time in (your child’s/your) life, (was your child/were you) in any place in real life where (he/she/you) could see or hear people being shot, bombs going off, or street riots?"<ref>[https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/06/27/news-organizations-including-one-unintentionally-misinformed-public-guns How news organizations, including this one, unintentionally misinformed the public on guns]</ref>
So they mixed in "witnessed a shooting" with "heard a street riot", etc.

===8 identifiers===
Sam Garrens<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEUstbsTJYYGq_uhWj3RASA/videos</ref> uses 8 identifiers to analyze statements which can stand alone or be used in combination with each other. Garrens claims once these methods are mastered, propaganda is forever easy to spot:
#Unrelated items
#Opinion leader or expert
#Missing context
#Obfuscation and simulation
#Gaslighting or assumed conclusions
#Shaming language and insults, using words that end in 'ist' and 'ite' augmented by 'gush' (or emotion) and outrage
#Lies and [[demonization]]
#Propaganda payload, the moral of the story

===Reputable and verifiable sources===
The following are considered reputable and verifiable source noted for good reporting:
<div style="column-count:2;-moz-column-count:2;-webkit-column-count:2">
*Epoch Times Media Group which include assets like:
:*The [[Epoch Times]] Newspaper
:*New Tang Dynasty Television (NTDTV)
:*China Uncensored/America Uncovered
:*Edge of Wonder
:*Shen Yun
:*The Larry Elder Show
:*American Thought Leaders
:*Declassified
:*Crossroads
:*Ben Hedges
*Assets owned by [[Rupert Murdoch]]
:*[[Sky News|Sky News Australia]]
*[[OANN]]
*[[Human Events]]
*[[Townhall]]
*[[NewsMax]]
*[[Washington Free Beacon]]
*[[New American]]
*[[Breitbart]]
*Daily Signal
*[[Daily Caller]]
*[[Washington Examiner]]
*The Federalist
*[[Rebel News]]
*[[New York Post]]
*[[New York Sun]]
*[[The Blaze]]
*[[Wall Street Journal]]
*[[Washington Times]]
*[[FrontPage Magazine]]
*[[Hot Air]]
*[[NewsBusters]]
*MRCTV
*[[PJ Media]]
*Creative Destruction Media
*[[Twitchy]]
*[[American Mercury]]
*[[Canada Free Press]]
*Ammoland
*[[Conservative Review]]
*Counter Jihad Report
*Geller Report
*[[Steven Crowder]]
*[[Ben Shapiro]]
*[[Larry Elder]]
*[[Mark Dice]]
*[[Stefan Molyneux]]
*[[Candace Owens]]
*[[Dennis Prager]]
*[[Steve Turley]]
*[[Millie Weaver]]
*[[Kaitlin Bennett]]
*[[Tim Pool]]
*[[Andy Ngo]]
</div>

==Responses==
[[File:Fake news.jpeg|thumb|right|300px]]
While liberals frequently accuse conservative or alternate media sites of being dishonest, they typically gloss over the massive failings of the mainstream media to accurately and fairly cover the news, as well as its own propensity to post and report fake news itself (such as the polls they released which falsely claimed that [[Hillary Clinton]] was "well ahead" of Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election campaign in order to discourage conservative voters, despite the attendance figures of the Trump campaign rallies vs. the Clinton campaign rallies, which the mainstream media chose to ignore, proving otherwise). Although the polls may have correctly predicted Clinton's 3 million vote margin in the national popular vote, commenters ignored the fact that the election is determined state-by-state in the [[Electoral College]]. In fact, within days after Trump's victory in the election, Wikipedia's liberal editors propagated a far from neutral and heavily liberal-biased "Fake news website" article.<ref>[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fake_news_website&oldid=752584598 "Fake news website" article] at Wikipedia, December 2, 2016.</ref>
===Liberal responses===
When the term first came into common usages immediately after the 2016 elections, [[liberals]], the [[mainstream media]], and [[social media]] misapplied the term to make the false accusation that [[Alternative Media|alternative news]] sources were "deliberately lying" to their readers, listeners, and viewers, and that these "lies" helped elect [[Donald Trump]] [[President of the United States]]. The liberal-pushed "fake news" accusations are a form of [[conspiracy theory]].

The [[mainstream media]] itself publishes and promotes fake news stories appearing in nightly network newscasts, on its cable news channels, in its newspapers and on its websites (including Facebook).<ref name="Tech Crunch">{{cite web|url=https://techcrunch.com/2017/02/14/facebook-fake-news-code-media/|title=Facebook is still figuring out how to tackle fake news|date=Feb 14, 2017|accessdate=|work=Tech Crunch}}</ref><ref name="Barron">{{cite news|url=http://ajr.org/2015/04/03/news-sites-fall-for-fake-news|title=Even News Sites Fall for Fake News|first=Rachel|last=Barron|date=April 3, 2017|accessdate=|work=American Journalism Review}}</ref>
When fake news sites misuse the "ABC News" logo<ref>{{cite news|url=http://www.snopes.com/2016/08/07/breitbart-duped-by-fake-news-again/|title=Breitbart Duped by Fake News (Again)|date=September 1, 2016|accessdate=|work=Snopes}}</ref> or are designed to appear to be sponsored by a TV news channel, the mainstream media may also appear to publish and promote fake news stories.

The mainstream media itself can be rife with government leaked fake news stories, such as a fictional ''Washington Post'' story that Russia hacked the U.S. power grid in 2016.<ref>Leetaru, Kalev, "[https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2017/01/01/fake-news-and-how-the-washington-post-rewrote-its-story-on-russian-hacking-of-the-power-grid/ 'Fake News' And How The Washington Post Rewrote Its Story On Russian Hacking Of The Power Grid]," ''Forbes'', Jan 1, 2017.</ref> While leftists accuse conservatives of being behind fake news stories, the evidence shows the exact opposite, although fake news is designed to appeal to audiences all across the political spectrum.

====Attempts at censorship====
[[Melissa Zimdars]], a [[far-Left]] professor had compiled a list of supposedly "fake and misleading" news websites that was heavily promoted in the Mainstream Media,<ref>[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/breaking-media-list-fake-news-websites-includes-breitbart-infowars-zerohedge-twitchy-blaze/ BREAKING: Liberals Create List of "Fake" News Websites Including: Breitbart, Infowars, Zerohedge, Twitchy, The Blaze]</ref> including [[Breitbart]], [[Infowars]], Twitchy, [[The Blaze]], and Bizpac Review. Even liberals, such as Will Oremus on [[Slate.com]], criticized the list and the term itself for being far too broad, unfairly targeting numerous sites, and being an overreaction.<ref>Oremus, Will (December 6, 2016). [http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2016/12/stop_calling_everything_fake_news.html Stop Calling Everything “Fake News”]. ''Slate.com''. Retrieved December 8, 2016.</ref> Zimdars later removed her "Fake News" list, claiming she had been "harassed" and "doxed".<ref>[https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/technology/melissa-zimdars-removes-fake-news-list-claiming-harassed-doxed/ Dr Melissa Zimdars removes fake news list and claims she was ‘harassed’]</ref> In 2019, the [[George Soros]]-funded Poynter Institute created a list of 515 news sources – anything that was part of the left-wing media – that it claimed were "fake news" for not completely abiding by left-wing narratives.<ref>Multiple references:
*Freiburger, Calvin (May 3, 2019). [https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/soros-backed-journalism-institute-pulls-list-labeling-29-conservative-outlets-unnews Soros-backed journalism institute pulls list labeling 29 conservative outlets ‘UnNews’]. ''LifeSiteNews''. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
*[https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/soros-backed-journalism-institute-targets-29-conservative-outlets-in-its-unnews-report Soros-backed journalism institute targets 29 conservative outlets in its ‘UnNews’ report]. ''LifeSiteNews'' (from ''NewsBusters''). May 2, 2019. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
*Nolte, John (May 3, 2019). [https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/05/03/nolte-poynter-temporarily-pulls-blacklist-with-a-big-lie-and-promise-to-return/ Nolte: Poynter Temporarily Pulls Blacklist with a Big Lie and Promise to Return]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved May 4, 2019.
*Nolte, John (May 1, 2019). [https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/05/01/nolte-poynter-institute-wants-515-outlets-blacklisted-breitbart-news/ Nolte: Poynter Institute Wants 515 Outlets Blacklisted, Including Breitbart News]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved May 4, 2019.</ref>

A 2017 Yale University study found that flagging news stories as "fake news" is ineffective due to the general mistrust of the media by Americans that already exists.<ref>Church, Nate (September 12, 2017). [https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/09/12/study-flagging-stories-as-fake-news-ineffective-people-no-longer-trust-media/ Study: Flagging Stories as ‘Fake News’ Ineffective; People No Longer Trust Media]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved September 13, 2017.</ref>

====''WaPo''====
One attempt at broadening the meaning of the term as well as professing the likelihood of the use of what the term describes appeared on November 23, 2016 in the ''Washington Post'':{{cquote|In the wake of Donald Trump’s shock Nov. 2016 electoral victory, attention fell on the extent to which voter opinions could have been shaped by an epidemic of "fake news" websites that masqueraded as legitimate media outlets...Many fake stories proved more viral on social media than important articles from real sources.<ref name=Merkel>[https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2016/11/23/fake-news-threatens-german-election-merkel.html Fake news threatens German election: Merkel]</ref>}}

Ishaan Tharoor, the author who wrote the piece, lets the reader know that he assumes Trump's election win is so surprising (although it wasn't) that any explanation deserves to be looked at if the event has not been fully explained already. This would allow the subject which follows—his allegations of "fake news" being epidemic as well as his suggestions that they were isolated to media outlets that weren't "real sources" (by some unstated body's estimation)—to be plausible or even to be considered an especially good candidate as an explanation (to the uninformed), despite being unfounded or at least founded on exaggeration.

The election results prompted German Chancellor [[Angela Merkel]], who represents a, [[establishment]]-[[globalist]] political party, to caution against "fake news" circulated in [[Social media]]:{{cquote|Something has changed — as globalization has marched on, debate is taking place in a completely new media environment. Opinions aren’t formed the way they were 25 years ago ... Today we have fake sites, bots, trolls — things that regenerate themselves, reinforcing opinions with certain algorithms, and we have to learn to deal with them. I believe we should not underestimate what is happening in the context of the Internet and with digitalization; this is part of our reality ... We have regulations that allow for our press freedom, including the requirement for due diligence from journalists. Today we have many that experience a media that is based on very different foundations and is much less regulated.<ref name=Merkel/>}}

====Facebook====
[[Facebook]] has also responded to the alleged problem by developing a system wherein readers can flag a post they find suspicious. Once flagged the post will be reviewed by a [[mainstream media]] representative, who decides whether the news is "real" or "fake."<ref>https://www.wsj.com/articles/facebooks-fake-fix-for-fake-news-1481932361</ref>

====Snopes====
On January 14, 2016, the [[Snopes]] website, itself considered a fake news site by some experts, published its "Snopes’ Field Guide to Fake News Sites and Hoax Purveyors"<ref name=snopes>{{cite web|title=Snopes’ Field Guide to Fake News Sites and Hoax Purveyors|date=January 14, 2016|url=http://www.snopes.com/2016/01/14/fake-news-sites/|accessdate=}}</ref> Its founder, for what brags to be the moral compass of what is "honest" reporting on the Internet, allegedly embezzled nearly $100,000 for prostitutes.<ref>https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/09/exclusive-founder-of-snopes-far-left-moral-purveyor-of-truth-in-the-media-allegedly-embezzled-98000-for-prostitutes-during-his-divorce/</ref>

====SpotFakeNews.ca====
A recently created Canadian website called SpotFakeNews.ca<ref>http://spotfakenews.ca/</ref> claims to "help Canadians of all ages critically access online news and information, and differentiate fake news from real news", but the resources it links to link in turn to the [[Associated Press]] and other liberal-biased news "sources" and resources, thereby making that site itself a non-credible, liberal-biased resource.

====DoubtIt.ca====
Another Canadian website<ref>https://doubtit.ca/</ref> which claims "to provide Canadians an understanding of the role of journalism in a healthy democracy and the tools to find and filter information online";<ref>https://doubtit.ca/about-us/</ref> however, in its verification section,<ref>https://doubtit.ca/#verification_section</ref> the site uses the "fact checking" sites Snopes, FactCheck.org, the Associated Press website's "fact checking" section, Full Fact and [[PolitiFact]] as its resources, all of which are liberal-biased sites whose claims have been disproven and discredited as fake news when compared with similar stories from independent, non-liberal media journalists, news organizations (e.g. [[The Rebel Media|Rebel News]] and [[One America News Network]]) and news sites (e.g. [[Breitbart News]], [[NewsBusters]], [[The Daily Caller]], [[Gateway Pundit]], [[Canada Free Press]], etc.), thus also making DoubtIt.ca itself liberal-biased, unreliable and non-credible regarding what it decides is "fake news". Another giveaway that DoubtIt.ca is not credible as a resource is that at the bottom of its website, it mentions that it is funded by liberal-biased search engine [[Google]].

====DFRLab definition====
The [[Atlantic Council]]'s Digital Forensic Research Lab which is partnering with [[Facebook]] to promote [[internet]] [[censorship]] defines fake news as {{quotebox|“deliberately presenting false information as news.”

We differentiate this from '''[[disinformation]]''', which we consider to be "deliberately spreading false information;" fake news is thus a subset of disinformation. We further distinguish it from '''misinformation''', which we take to mean the unintentional spreading of false information.<ref>https://medium.com/dfrlab/fake-news-defining-and-defeating-43830a2ab0af</ref>}}

====European Commission====
In 2018, the [[European Commission]] proposed the creation of an "independent fact-checking network" that would fight what it views as "fake news." However, this network, if created, would be funded by left-wing organizations connected to [[George Soros]].<ref>Tomlinson, Chris (April 28, 2018). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/28/european-union-advocates-independent-fact-checkers-combat-fake-news/ European Union Advocates For Soros-Funded ‘Independent Fact Checkers’ to Combat ‘Fake News’]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved April 28, 2018.</ref>

===Conservative responses===
"''Undoubtedly the new main [[psyop]] against independent media is flooding the web with fake news, and mainstream media putting out fake news, and setting themselves up like a super-Snopes, to be the arbiter of what's real and what’s not,''" countered [[Alex Jones]] from Infowars in the wake of criticism of the [[Alternative Media]] on the part of [[Democrat]] presidential candidate [[Hillary Clinton]] supporters following Trump's win.<ref>[http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/11/finally-someone-is-standing-up-to-fake-news-infowars.html Finally, Someone Is Standing Up to Fake News: Infowars]</ref>

[[Answers in Genesis]] President [[Ken Ham]], noted that one of the most prominent and blatant examples of fake news is the media's treatment of [[evolution]] and an [[old Earth]] as undisputed scientific fact, even though numerous counterexamples exist [[Counterexamples to Evolution|to evolution]] and [[Counterexamples to an Old Earth|an old Earth]].<ref>Ham, Ken (March 21, 2017). [https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2017/03/21/real-fake-news/ The Real Fake News]. ''Answers in Genesis''. Retrieved March 21, 2017.</ref>

According to a 2017 Poynter Media Trust Survey, 44% of Americans believe the media creates "fake news" stories against Trump to make him look bad.<ref>Richardson, Bradford (December 28, 2017). [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/28/fake-news-half-all-americans-believe-media-make-an/ ‘Fake News’: Half of all Americans believe the media make up anti-Trump stories]. ''The Washington Times''. Retrieved December 29, 2017.</ref> A [[Monmouth University]] poll released in April 2018 found that 77% of Americans believe the mainstream media reports fake news.<ref>Multiple references:
*Manchester, Julia (April 2, 2018). [https://thehill.com/homenews/media/381225-more-than-3-in-4-believe-traditional-media-outlets-report-fake-news-poll More than 3 in 4 believe traditional media reports ‘fake news’: poll]. ''The Hill''. Retrieved April 2, 2018.
*Persons, Sally (April 2, 2018). [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/2/over-70-percent-of-americans-see-media-as-fake-new/ Over 70 percent of Americans see media as ‘fake news,’ a Monmouth University poll shows]. ''The Washington Times''. Retrieved April 2, 2018.
*Church, Nate (April 2, 2018). [https://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2018/04/02/poll-77-percent-believe-traditional-media-guilty-of-fake-news/ Poll: 77 Percent Believe Traditional Media Guilty of Fake News]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved April 2, 2018.
*Lima, Cristiano (April 2, 2018). [https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/02/poll-fake-news-494421 Poll: 77 percent say major news outlets report 'fake news']. ''Politico''. Retrieved April 2, 2018.
*Byas, Steve (April 4, 2018). [https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/28659-poll-public-believes-media-reports-fake-news-to-advance-their-own-agenda Poll: Public Convinced That Media Reports Fake News to Advance Their Own Agenda]. ''The New American''. Retrieved April 4, 2018.</ref>

==History==
[[File:NY Daily News.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Liberal, socialist, and communist slanted journalism has a long history of biased and false reporting.]]
"News articles" that are completely fictional have a long history. The motivation is often for the amusement of the author, or the desire to make money by selling the newspaper or handbill based on its entertainment value. Such "news articles" are sometimes purely satirical (something that has a long history), or intentionally malicious, often for political reasons. For example, malicious claims about Presidential candidates (illegitimate children, etc.) have a long history in the United States. The falsehoods have sufficient emotional impact to assure that they will be magnified in various [[Media|mediums]]. It is debated whether or not this includes [[Satire|satiric]] news.<ref>"Tall Tale or Satire? Authors of So-Called "Fake News" Feel Misjudged". ''NBC News''. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/tall-tale-or-satire-authors-so-called-fake-news-feel-n689421</ref><ref>''Fake News Watch''. http://fakenewswatch.com/</ref>

[[Walter Lippmann]], a prominent [[socialist]], indicated that the press is supposed to utilize fake news to spin a narrative and thus manufacture public consent, claiming that news and truth are not the same thing, that it requires no real training to deal with the small pool, and that everything else is in the journalist's own discretion, which includes even promoting stereotypes.<ref>http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2012/02/journalism-and-manufacturing-of-consent.html</ref><ref>http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2013/03/walter-lippmann-explains-how.html</ref><ref>http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2017/01/who-is-founding-father-of-fake-news.html</ref>

The explosive growth of the internet in the early years of the 21st century and the political divisiveness of the 2016 Presidential election saw explosive growth in fake news, far beyond supermarket tabloids, and the use of the term "fake news" to describe this.

===Tabloids, hoaxes, etc===
In the more recent past, but before the advent of the widespread propagation of false information through the internet, the most visible instances of "fake news" were the "supermarket tabloids" ("rag mags") that could be found at checkout counters of supermarkets. These were often full of blatant nonsense, and (nearly) everyone knew that, and bought them only for their entertainment value. Perhaps the most blatant of these was ''Weekly World News'', which seemed obsessed with some half-human half-bat creature named "bat boy," and with extraterrestrials. They sometimes devoted entire issues to extraterrestrials, and, in one instance, had three articles relating that each of the Presidential candidates in the 1992 Presidential election ([[George H. W. Bush]], [[Bill Clinton]], and [[Ross Perot]]) had been taken for a personal ride in a flying saucer to see Washington, D.C. from the air.

These fake articles continue, often with an extreme political slant. Recent issues of the ''National Enquirer'' (perhaps the most blatant fake newspaper since the demise of Weekly World News) had completely false articles about Special Forces raids, carpet bombing, drone strikes, and naval assaults by American forces in the Middle East. The ''Globe'' has run headlines alleging that Hillary Clinton is a Russian spy and has a "new treason indictment", which is not supported by the corresponding article. Another headline, unsupported by any evidence in the article, stated that Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin were stopped trying to escape from the country. And there were numerous headlines during the 2016 Presidential campaign stating that they were in possession of evidence that would put Ms. Clinton in prison.

=== Early examples of fake news ===
Here are some early examples of fake news:

#The false claim, based on manipulation of the data, by Sir [[Arthur Eddington]] that the 1919 total eclipse of the sun proved the [[General Theory of Relativity]].
#The false reporting by the bigot [[H.L. Mencken]] on the [[Scopes Trial]].
#''[[The War of the Worlds]]'' broadcast on [[Halloween]] night, 1938, in which Orson Wells dramatically described an invasion by hostile Martians in [[New Jersey]].
#''The New York Daily News'' reporting that [[President Gerald Ford]] told the city to 'drop dead' after progressive liberal socialists spent the city's finances into oblivion.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/28/nyregion/28veto.html</ref>
#The fake claim that President [[George H. W. Bush]] did not know what a grocery scanner was, implying that he was out of touch.<ref>[https://www.mrc.org/articles/great-george-bush-sr-grocery-scanner-urban-legend-lives The Great George Bush Sr. "Grocery Scanner" Urban Legend Lives On]. ''Media Research Center''. Retrieved December 5, 2018.</ref>

===Internet age===
Cybersecurity experts began using the term "fake news" to describe social media postings that attempted to spread false information regardless of the political ramifications of its content.

The widespread public use of the phrase by non-experts probably originated on November 14, 2016, in an announcement by [[Google]]. They said their advertising service was being pulled from sites whose purpose was to present as news what was solely designed to attract attention rather than conducted in a factual manner by a responsible party.<ref>Nicas, Jack (November 14, 2016). [https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-to-bar-fake-news-websites-from-using-its-ad-selling-software-1479164646 "Google to bar fake-news websites from using its ad-selling software"]. ''Wall Street Journal''.</ref> Fake news is also a form of "click bait". A photo would appear in an ad implying that there was a news story about the death of a celebrity, and computer users would click on the link to be taken to a website that carried heavy advertising, but no news story about the death of the living celebrity.

===Clinton scandals===
[[File:Rice Benghazi.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Obama National Security Advisor Susan Rice putting out the fake news narrative that a planned terrorist attack and massacre of Americans was only a spontaneous riot spawned out of a peaceful demonstration.]]
:''See also: [[Clinton scandal]]s''

===Hillary Clinton email scandal===
:{{See also|Clinton email scandal}}
===2016 Presidential election===
:{{main|Mainstream media and Donald Trump|Fake news in the 2016 presidential election}}
===Trump transition and presidency===
:{{See also|Trump transition}}
===Trump-Russia collusion hoax===
:{{See also|Trump-Russia collusion hoax}}
Fake news reports in the Trump-Russia colluision hoax were:
*Russians hacked the [[DNC]] and gave Podesta emails to [[WikiLeaks]].<ref>https://thegrayzone.com/2020/05/11/bombshell-crowdstrike-admits-no-evidence-russia-stole-emails-from-dnc-server/</ref>

===Kavanaugh smear===
:{{See also|Kavanaugh smear}}
Fake news reports in the Kavanaugh smear were:
*the uncorroborated, obscene sexual allegation published by ''[[The New Yorker]]'' as part of the [[Kavanaugh smear]];

===2018 bomb hoax===
:{{See also|2018 Midterm elections}}

The panic reporting for several days prior to the 2018 Midterm elections that a dozen fake bombs mailed to prominent [[Democrat]]s were real;<ref>Officials had determined within two hours, and the ''[[Associated Press]]'' reported that the alleged bombs were fake, however days later most prominent mainstream sources continued to allege the packages contained real bombs.</ref>

Just when things looked desperate for Democrats with unhinged mobs responding to the party's leadership, CNN reported it had received a mail bomb addressed to [[John Brennan]], who actually works for [[NBC]]. Nonetheless, CNN opened John Brennan's mail anyway, paused to take pictures of the alleged bomb resembling a Hollywood prop, before evacuating the building in a panic. Others received mailings as well.

Republicans were quick to condemn political violence,<ref>https://youtu.be/KwSGYUDQSuY</ref> unlike Democrat leaders, who were encouraging it.<ref>https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9115480/</ref> President Trump vowed to use all the resources of the federal government to find who was responsible.

As soon as CNN feed into the news cycle that the bombs were active, giving breaking news reports a life of their own, within hours the ''[[Associated Press]]'' reported,
{{quotebox-float|"tests have determined that a powder found inside an envelope delivered to CNN along with a pipe bomb was harmless."<ref><big>7:50 p.m.

A law enforcement official says tests have determined that a powder found inside an envelope delivered to CNN along with a pipe bomb was harmless.

The official wasn’t authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

New York City’s police commissioner said earlier Wednesday that the package sent to CNN’s offices in Manhattan contained a live explosive and an envelope containing white powder.

The FBI said the package was similar to explosives sent to former President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Eric Holder and billionaire [[George Soros]].

The package sent to CNN was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, a frequent guest on the channel. The official says that parcel contained no note or claim of responsibility.</big> [https://www.apnews.com/5c93ac06309c4ce88e8 cd5023f89feca Tom Hays, ''Associated Press'', October 24, 2018].</ref>}} None of this stopped CNN and other mainstream sources from failing to clarify the facts, or whipping up anti-Trump hysteria.

None of the bombs were active, and the alleged bomber didn't know how to build a bomb anyway. The alleged bombs lacked a detonator device, were made with PVC tubing instead of lead, and packed with a harmless powder.<ref>https://www.nationalreview.com/news/cnn-pipe-bomb-white-powder-harmless-law-enforcement-report/</ref>

===Covington Catholic kids===
:{{Main article|Covington Catholic kids}}
Organizations and individuals involved in the Convington Catholic kids smear were:
''[[The Washington Post]]'', ''[[The New York Times]]'', ''[[Cable News Network]]'' (CNN), ''[[The Guardian]]'', ''[[National Public Radio]]'', [[TMZ]], [[Atlantic Media]], [[Capitol Hill Publishing]], [[Ann Cabrera]] (CNN), [[Sara Sidner]] (CNN), [[Erin Burnett]] (CNN), [[S. E. Cupp]] (CNN), [[Elliot C. McLaughlin]] (CNN), [[Amanda Watts]] (CNN), [[Emmanuella Grinberg]] (CNN), [[Michelle Boorstein]] (''Washington Post''), [[Cleve R. Wootson Jr.]] (''Washington Post''), [[Antonio Olivo]] (''Washington Post''), [[Joe Heim]] (''Washington Post''), [[Michael E. Miller]] (''Washington Post''), [[Eli Rosenberg]] (''Washington Post''), [[Isaac Stanley-Becker]] (''Washington Post''), [[Kristine Philips]] (''Washington Post''), [[Sarah Mervosh]] (''Washington Post''), [[Emily S. Roeb]] (''New York Times''), [[Maggie Haberman]] (''New York Times''), [[David Brooks]] (''New York Times''), [[Shannon Doyne]], [[Kurt Eichenwald]], [[Andrea Mitchell]] (''[[NBC]]/[[MSNBC]]''), [[Savannah Guthrie]] (NBC), [[Joy Reid]] (MSNBC), [[Chuck Todd]] (NBC), [[Noah Berlatsky]], [[Elisha Fieldstadt]] (NBC), [[Eun Kyung Kim]], [[HBO]], [[Bill Maher]], [[Warner Media]], [[Condé Nast]], ''[[GQ]]'', [[Heavy.com]], [[The Hill]], ''[[The Atlantic]]'', Bustle.com, [[Kathy Griffin]], [[Alyssa Milano]] and [[Jim Carrey]].<ref>https://www.dailywire.com/news/42988/nick-sandmanns-lawyer-sends-letters-these-54-ryan-saavedra?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro</ref>

===Impeachment sham===
:{{See also|Impeachment sham}}

As the [[impeachment inquiry]] was ginned up, both the ''Washington Post'' and [[Lawfare]]blog's [[Ukrainian collusion]] timelines claim that [[Hunter Biden]] joined [[Burisma]] in May 2014, whereas Burisima's own website and ''Deutsche Welle''<ref>https://archive.is/LqxDr/</ref><ref>http://www.dw.com/en/who-are-hunter-bidens-ukrainian-bosses/a-17642254</ref><ref>https://archive.is/Aza4U</ref><ref>https://archive.is/IDha1</ref> reported that Hunter Biden's hiring was just four days prior to Vice President Biden's pledging $50 million in U.S. taxpayer provided funds to Ukraine.<ref>https://www.theepochtimes.com/joe-biden-obama-officials-influenced-ukraine-to-advance-own-interests_2896259.html</ref><ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/23/world/europe/biden-ukraine.html</ref> Democrats issued [[phoney subpoena]]s to build an impeachment case.

By precedent, Congress must have a floor vote to authorize an [[impeachment inquiry]]. [[Speaker Nancy Pelosi]] announced an "impeachment inquiry" with no floor vote; and media reported it as a duly authorized inquiry.<ref>https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/24/speaker-pelosi-bamboozles-base-by-announcing-enhanced-continuation-of-status-quo/</ref> The unprecedented change in House Rules results in excluding Republicans from cross examining witnesses in drafting [[Articles of Impeachment]].

There was no "second whistleblower" for the same reason there was no first: (a) The President is not a member of the [[intelligence community]], (b) is not subject to oversight by the intelligence community inspector general, (c) his actions do not concern “the funding, administration, or operation of an intelligence activity", (d) and do not arise in connection with any such intelligence activity at all."<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m70C6N1Y8Ko</ref>

===2020 Presidential election===
:{{See also|2020 presidential election|2020 election fraud|}}
Fake news reports in the 2020 presidential election were:
*[[Pete Buttigieg]] won the 2020 [[Iowa Caucus]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFAQyZq0NqfCwVkRQoXpx0A/videos</ref>
*Bernie Sanders said "a woman can never be president." CNN manufactured that hit on Sanders then used it as a debate question a few days later.
*In ten debate appearances, [[Elizabeth Warren]] was never asked once about her false claims of [[Native American]] heritage.<ref>https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/03/06/warren-went-all-10-debates-without-one-question-about-her-native-american-claims-894450</ref>

===2021 Capitol protests===
:{{See also|2021 Capitol protests}}

===Other historic exampless===
While many examples of fake news appeared during Donald Trump's presidency, the problem existed long before his election.<ref>Miller, S.A. (December 30, 2018). [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/dec/30/donald-trumps-fake-news-call-often-real/ 'Fake news' a real problem long before Trump era, media watchdogs say]. ''The Washington Times''. Retrieved December 31, 2018.</ref>

One of the more infamous examples of fake news was when former CBS News anchor [[Dan Rather]] used forgeries of the Killian Documents on George W. Bush's service record in order to sway the 2004 election, which resulted in his firing after being exposed. See [[Rathergate]] for more details.

Obama National Security Advisor [[Susan Rice]] appeared on the five major network Sunday talk shows to put out an official fake news narrative that a [[terrorist]] attack against Americans two months before a presidential election was only a peaceful demonstration that turned into a riot. Despite evidence the contrary, many mainstream news organizations adopted the fake news narrative as fact for its viewers and readers and branded skeptics as conspiracy theorists and racists who opposed a black president.

One possible example of fake news was the announcement by the [[mainstream media]] that [[Fidel Castro]] died at age 90 on November 25, 2016.<ref>https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/26/americas/fidel-castro-obit/</ref> In fact, the [[Obama Administration]] and major news outlets were likely aware that Castro had died of a terminal illness many years earlier. Indeed, [[Obama]] did not even mention, let alone visit, Castro during Obama's visit to Cuba in March 2016, and neither the president, vice-president, or other high-ranking elected official of the United States attended Castro's "funeral".

In April 2018, the Associated Press and ''The Washington Post'' falsely claimed that the NRA decided to ban concealed carry at an upcoming speech by Vice President [[Mike Pence]] at its convention, when it was actually the Secret Service that forced the organization to do so.<ref>Multiple references:
*Hawkins, Awr (April 30, 2018). [https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/30/fake-news-ap-wapo-claim-nra-bans-guns-at-mike-pence-speech/ Fake News: AP, WaPo Claim NRA Bans Guns at Mike Pence Speech]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved April 30, 2018.
*Adelmann, Bob (May 1, 2018). [https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/28948-more-fake-news-nra-bans-guns-at-its-own-convention More Fake News: NRA Bans Guns at Its Own Convention!] ''The New American''. Retrieved May 1, 2018.
*Richardson, Bradford (April 30, 2018). [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/apr/30/associated-press-issues-correction-report-nra-bann/ AP issues correction on report that NRA banned guns for Mike Pence speech]. ''The Washington Times''. Retrieved April 30, 2018.
*Concha, Joe (April 30, 2018). [https://thehill.com/homenews/media/385563-ap-corrects-earlier-report-that-nra-banned-guns-at-pence-speech AP corrects earlier report that NRA banned guns at Pence speech]. ''The Hill''. Retrieved April 30, 2018.</ref>

The [[liberal media]] widely reported that actor [[Jussie Smollett]] was a victim of a [[hate crime]] when it subsequently appeared to have been a hoax.

In June 2019, ''MSNBC'' news anchor Kasie Hunt spread the Fake News narrative that 2020 Democratic Presidential candidate [[Joe Biden]] mentioned being able to work with [[segregation]]ists who were misidentified as "Republicans". Joe Biden did specifically name two segregationist Senators: [[James Eastland]] of [[Mississippi]] and [[Herman Talmadge]] of [[Georgia]]. However, both men were "proud, card-carrying members of the Democrat Party".<ref>Kasie Hunt Spreads Fake News Biden’s Segregationist Pals Were ‘Republicans’, https://www.teaparty.org/kasie-hunt-spreads-fake-news-bidens-segregationist-pals-were-republicans-368762/, June 19, 2019</ref><ref>U.S. Breaking News, Kasie Hunt Spreads Fake News Biden’s Segregationist Pals Were ‘Republicans’, https://usbreakingnews.net/2019/06/20/kasie-hunt-spreads-fake-news-bidens-segregationist-pals-were-republicans/, June 20, 2019</ref>

While a relatively unimportant example, many media outlets reported December 31, 2019, as the last day of the decade when 2020 was also part of the same decade.<ref>Byas, Steve (January 1, 2020). [https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/34492-end-of-decade-stories-illustrate-how-media-perpetuates-false-narratives “End of Decade” Stories Illustrate How Media Perpetuates False Narratives]. ''The New American''. Retrieved January 1, 2020.</ref>

''[[The Hill]]'' claimed in a since-deleted tweet on [[Independence Day]] in 2020 that Gov. [[Kristi Noem]]'s opposition to removing Confederate statues was an "effort to "discredit" founding fathers".<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20200704112631/https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1279374661877448705 The Hill on Twitter: "South Dakota governor..."]. ''Twitter via archive.is''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref> This falsehood is contrary to Noem's actual remarks, which did not include any such specifications ''The Hill'' insinuated.<ref>[https://news.sd.gov/newsitem.aspx?id=27004 Braving the Dangers of the Arena]. ''South Dakota State News''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref>

''[[The Hill]]'' claimed in mid-December 2020 that Sen. [[Kelly Loeffler]] had supposedly defended a photo she took with a former [[KKK]] leader,<ref>[http://web.archive.org/web/20201213234140/https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1338267724963852298 The Hill via Twitter: "Loeffler's campaign..."]. ''Twitter via archive.is''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref> which is false, as she condemned the white supremacist whose racist background she had not known at the time the photo was taken.<ref>[https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/loeffler-disavows-photo-taken-with-longtime-white-supremacist/THDEXQYGOFEHNJAYOFNSQCWHZU/ Loeffler disavows photo taken with longtime white supremacist]. ''AJC''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref>

After Congresswoman Mary Miller made a blunt gaffe in saying that mass murderer [[Adolf Hitler]] was "right" that indoctrinating the youth means controlling the future, several media outlets outright falsely suggested that she held a positive stance on the ruthless dictator.<ref>[https://crooksandliars.com/2021/01/new-congresswoman-mary-miller-praises New Congresswoman Mary Miller Praises Hitler In Trump Rally Speech]. ''Crooks and Liars''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref><ref>[https://www.thedailybeast.com/rep-mary-miller-gop-lawmaker-who-praised-hitler-accuses-critics-of-trying-to-twist-words GOP Lawmaker Who Praised Hitler Apologizes—Then Accuses Critics of Trying to ‘Twist’ Words]. ''The Daily Beast''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref><ref>[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mary-miller-hitler-apology-republican-illinois Freshman GOP congresswoman apologizes for pro-Hitler reference at rally]. ''Washington Examiner''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref><ref>[https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/1/6/22217876/illinois-rep-mary-miller-praises-hitler-rep-jan-schakowsky-calls-on-her-to-resign-at-trump-rally After Illinois Rep. Mary Miller praises Hitler, Rep. Jan Schakowsky calls on her to resign]. ''Chicago Sun Times''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref> The sources misconstrued and misinterpreted her words to imply that quoting the rhetoric of an evil person meant praising them, which is a fallacy.<ref>[https://jg-tc.com/opinion/letters/letter-u-s-rep-mary-miller-did-nothing-wrong-referencing-hitler/article_8edba8bc-e66b-5151-9d07-2f0a7dfbfb16.html LETTER: U.S. Rep. Mary Miller did nothing wrong referencing Hitler]. ''JG-TC''. Retrieved January 22, 2021.</ref>

===Examples of Fake News===

BELOW IS A LONG LIST OF EXAMPLES OF FAKE NEWS STORIES THAT HAVE BEEN DEBUNKED ALONG WITH THEIR FACT CHECKS

![img_0.08652902762893579.jpg](https://cdn.steemitimages.com/DQmaXn8yoZwk61PxmRps8bCL68aQX2TNcaovAcHVWAiNcBR/img_0.08652902762893579.jpg)

[democrat media lies that project veritas videos were manipulated (forensic analysis finds they are 100% unaltered)..](https://archive.is/wip/1Q2fs)

[ is texas "banning books"?](https://ecency.com/hive-125125/@mekdn/is-texas-banning-books)

[𝗉𝗋𝗈𝗃𝖾𝖼𝗍 𝗏𝖾𝗋𝗂𝗍𝖺𝗌 𝗋𝖾𝗏𝖾𝖺𝗅𝖾𝗌 𝖽𝖾𝗆𝗈𝖼𝗋𝖺𝗍𝗌 𝗁𝗂𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝖾𝗈𝗉𝗅𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝗉𝗈𝗌𝖾 𝖺𝗌 𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝗌𝗎𝗉𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖼𝗈𝗆𝗆𝗂𝗍 𝗏𝗂𝗈𝗅𝖾𝗇𝖼𝖾 𝖺𝗍 𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝗋𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗂𝖾𝗌𝗌](https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/18/undercover-video-shows-democrats-saying-they-hire-/)

[𝖼𝗇𝗇 𝖽𝗈𝖼𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗌 𝗏𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗈 𝗈𝖿 𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉](http://archive.is/O6Ro2)

[𝖼𝗇𝗇 𝖽𝖾𝖼𝖾𝗉𝗍𝗂𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗒 𝖾𝖽𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝗏𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗈 𝗈𝖿 𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝗂𝗇 𝖢𝗁𝖺𝗋𝗅𝗈𝗍𝗍𝖾𝗌𝗏𝗅𝖨𝖾]( https://archive.is/cLWlp )

[𝖽𝗂𝖽 𝖲𝖺𝗋𝖺𝗁 𝖲𝖺𝗇𝖽𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝖽𝗈𝖼𝗍𝗈𝗋 𝖺 𝗏𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗈?](https://youtu.be/ylpCMS_JxuQ)

[𝖫𝗂𝖻𝖾𝗋𝖺𝗅𝗌 𝖠𝗋𝖾 𝖫𝗒𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖶𝗁𝖾𝗇 𝖳𝗁𝖾𝗒 𝖢𝗅𝖺𝗂𝗆 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖳𝗋𝖺𝗇𝗌𝖼𝗋𝗂𝗉𝗍 “𝖨𝗌𝗇’𝗍 𝖺 𝖳𝗋𝖺𝗇𝗌𝖼𝗋𝗂𝗉𝗍.”](http://archive.is/7x8PA)

[study finds cnn msnbc nytimes 90% negative towards trump](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/its-not-your-imagination-study-finds-trump-coverage-overwhelmingly-negative)

[study finds viewers of bill O'Reilly nore informed than viewers of npr cnn msnbc nytimes](https://ecency.com/politics/@mekdn/study-viewers-of-o-reilly-factor-and-rush-limbaugh-scored-more-knowledgeable-than-viewers-of-cnn-and-npr)

[is trump a "pedophile"?](https://leadstories.com/hoax-alert/2020/09/fact-check-no-proof-that-trump-is-a-rapist-and-a-pedophile.html)

[Did donald trump say he doesnt like black guys counting his money?](https://ecency.com/p/@mekdn/did-donald-trump-say-he)

[did Trump "crash the economy"? no. he had the greatest economic recovery in history](https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/jobs-jobs-jobs-trump-recovery-greatest-recovery-ever-661000-jobs-added-september-record-11-4-million-jobs-added-economy-5-months/)

[study finds incredible bias](https://archive.is/42gxn)

(𝖲𝗍𝗎𝖽𝗒 𝖥𝗂𝗇𝖽𝗌 𝖥𝖺𝖼𝗍 𝖢𝗁𝖾𝖼𝗄𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝖡𝗂𝖺𝗌𝖾𝖽](https://archive.is/o0cgh)

[𝖲𝗍𝗎𝖽𝗒 𝖲𝗁𝗈𝗐𝗌 𝖥𝖺𝖼𝗍-𝖢𝗁𝖾𝖼𝗄𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝖠𝗋𝖾 𝖡𝖺𝖽 𝖺𝗍 𝖳𝗁𝖾𝗂𝗋 𝖩𝗈𝖻𝗌](https://archive.is/wip/KtLnR)

[cnn lying for 5 minutes](https://youtu.be/sKUK0xZfuWA)

[CNN Caught Planting an An ti-Trump Socialist Posing as Trump Supporter](https://archive.is/BZkwC)

[Trump removed the mlk bust?]( https://outline.com/dWU8Ff)

[Misleading headlines are the norm at the Washington Post.](https://www.msmlies.com/misleading-headlines-are-the-norm-at-the-washington-post/)

[Fox lies about imeachment poll](https://archive.is/pDma6)

[Trump committed "charity fraud"?](https://archive.is/wip/HA4Fw)

[did soros loan trump money?](https://archive.ph/PukYG)

[trump overfed fish?]( https://outline.com/Npn4bW )

[𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝗉𝗋𝖺𝗂𝗌𝖾𝖽 𝗇az𝗂𝗌?]( https://archive.is/5ab09 )

[Ted cruz refused to go on cnn?]( https://archive.is/wip/brIU3 )

[Trumps tax cut caused a deficit?]( https://archive.is/OMUV7 )

[𝖢𝗈𝗏𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝗄𝗂𝖽𝗌 𝖺𝗍𝗍𝖺𝖼𝗄𝖾𝖽 𝖺𝗇 𝗂𝗇𝖽𝗂𝖺𝗇?]( https://outline.com/4JLA9y )

[𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖼𝖺𝗅𝗅𝖾𝖽 𝗆𝖾𝗑𝗂𝖼𝖺𝗇𝗌 𝗋𝖺 𝗉𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗌?]( https://outline.com/Dwsdaz )

[𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉𝖼𝖺𝗋𝖾 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽𝗇𝗍 𝖼𝗈𝗏𝖾𝗋 𝗉𝗋𝖾 𝖾𝗑𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖼𝗈𝗇𝖽𝗂𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇𝗌?]( https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/05/ahca-preexisting-conditions-democrats-misleading-rhetoric/ )

[𝖳𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖺𝗐𝗄𝗐𝖺𝗋𝖽 𝗆𝗈𝗆𝖾𝗇𝗍 𝗐𝗁𝖾𝗇 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖽𝖾𝖻𝗎𝗇𝗄𝗌 𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝗈𝗐𝗇 #𝖥𝖺𝗄𝖾𝖭𝖾𝗐𝗌 𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗌𝖺𝗆𝖾 𝗆𝗈𝗇𝗍𝗁](https://www.msmlies.com/that-awkward-moment-when-cnn-debunks-its-own-fakenews-in-the-same-month/)

[𝖢𝖭𝖭’𝗌 𝖣𝗈𝗇 𝖫𝖾𝗆𝗈𝗇 𝖼𝗅𝖺𝗂𝗆𝗌 𝖱𝗎𝗌𝗌𝗂𝖺 𝗆𝖾𝖽𝖽𝗅𝖾𝖽 𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖴𝖲 𝖾𝗅𝖾𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇𝗌 𝖻𝗒 𝗎𝗌𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖯𝗈𝗄𝖾𝗆𝗈𝗇 𝖦𝗈](https://archive.is/MIFHU)

[𝖶𝖺𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝖯𝗈𝗌𝗍 𝗆𝖺𝗄𝖾𝗌 𝗎𝗉 𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗇 𝗋𝖾𝗍𝗋𝖺𝖼𝗍𝗌 𝗂𝗍: “𝖬𝗂𝗍𝗍 𝖱𝗈𝗆𝗇𝖾𝗒 𝗂𝗌 𝗎𝗌𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖺 𝖪𝖪𝖪 𝗌𝗅𝗈𝗀𝖺𝗇 𝗂𝗇 𝗁𝗂𝗌 𝗌𝗉𝖾𝖾𝖼𝗁𝖾𝗌”](https://archive.is/hR2e5)

[𝖽𝖾𝖻𝗎𝗇𝗄𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗐𝖺𝗉𝗈 (𝖺𝗀𝖺𝗂𝗇)]( https://archive.is/gs996 )

[𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖣𝖨𝖣 𝖭𝖮𝖳 𝗅𝗂𝖾 "𝟣𝟢𝗄 𝗍𝗂𝗆𝖾𝗌"](https://archive.is/S6P5M)

[𝖶𝖺𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝖯𝗈𝗌𝗍 𝖱𝖾𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍𝖾𝗋 𝖫𝖨𝖤𝖲 𝖠𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉
](http://archive.is/cwnZn)

[𝖿𝗈𝗑 𝖫𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖳𝗂𝗆 𝖬𝗈𝗋𝗋𝗂𝗌𝗈𝗇’𝗌 𝖳𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗂𝗆𝗈𝗇𝗒 ](https://archive.is/TT7lS)

[𝖠𝖯 𝗌𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖺𝖽𝗌 𝖺 𝗅𝗂𝖾 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖶𝖺𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝖥𝗋𝖾𝖾 𝖡𝖾𝖺𝖼𝗈𝗇 𝗉𝖺𝗒𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖣𝗈𝗌𝗌𝗂𝖾𝗋](https://archive.is/kf5kP)

[𝖥𝗈𝗑 𝖭𝖾𝗐𝗌 𝗅𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉'𝗌 𝗌𝗈𝗇𝗌](https://archive.is/wip/FK2XS)

[𝖱𝖾𝗎𝗍𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝖲𝖺𝗒𝗌: 𝖵𝗂𝗈𝗅𝖾𝗇𝗍 𝖢𝗋𝗂𝗆𝖾 𝖱𝗂𝗌𝖾𝗌 𝗂𝗇 𝖦𝖾𝗋𝗆𝖺𝗇𝗒 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗂𝗌 𝖠𝗍𝗍𝗋𝗂𝖻𝗎𝗍𝖾𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝖱𝖾𝖿𝗎𝗀𝖾𝖾𝗌. 𝖬𝖲𝖬 𝖲𝖺𝗒𝗌: 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖫𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖠𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖱𝗂𝗌𝖾 𝗈𝖿 𝖢𝗋𝗂𝗆𝖾 𝗂𝗇 𝖦𝖾𝗋𝗆𝖺𝗇𝗒.](https://archive.is/HN5IN)

[𝖶𝖺𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝖯𝗈𝗌 𝖠𝗅𝗅 𝖥𝗂𝗅𝗅 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗂𝗋 𝖯𝖺𝗉𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝖫𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝟦𝟦 𝖲𝗍𝖺𝗍𝖾𝗌 𝖱𝖾𝖿𝗎𝗌𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗍𝗈 𝖦𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝖵𝗈𝗍𝖾𝗋 𝖣𝖺𝗍𝖺 𝗍𝗈 𝖯𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗇𝗍 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉’𝗌 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝖨𝗇𝗍𝖾𝗀𝗋𝗂𝗍𝗒 𝖢𝗈𝗆𝗆𝗂𝗌𝗌𝗂𝗈𝗇](https://archive.is/wip/1pPnt)

[𝖩𝗈𝗎𝗋𝗇𝖺𝗅𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗌 𝖲𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖺𝖽 𝖥𝖺𝗄𝖾 𝖭𝖾𝗐𝗌 𝖠𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖡𝗅𝗈𝗐𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖢𝗈𝗆𝖾𝗒 𝖠 𝖪𝗂𝗌𝗌](https://archive.is/4jq54)

[𝖶𝖺𝗌𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝖯𝗈𝗌𝗍 𝖱𝖾𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍𝖾𝗋 𝖫𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖠𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖢𝗅𝗂𝗇𝗍𝗈𝗇 𝖢𝗋𝗈𝗐𝖽 𝖲𝗂𝗓𝖾](https://archive.is/RuLTo)

[𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖫𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖮𝗆𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝖢𝗋𝗂𝗍𝗂𝖼𝖺𝗅 𝖨𝗇𝖿𝗈𝗋𝗆𝖺𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝗂𝗇 𝖱𝖾𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍 𝖠𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖯𝗈𝗍𝖾𝗇𝗍𝗂𝖺𝗅 𝖠𝗅𝖺𝗌𝗄𝖺𝗇 𝖬𝗂𝗇𝖾 𝖧𝖺𝗋𝗆𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖲𝖺𝗅𝗆𝗈𝗇](https://www.msmlies.com/cnn-lies-omits-critical-information-report-potential-alaskan-mine/)

[𝖣𝗂𝖽 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖱𝖾𝗉𝗎𝖻𝗅𝗂𝖼𝖺𝗇 𝖯𝖺𝗋𝗍𝗒 "𝖺𝗉𝗈𝗅𝗈𝗀𝗂𝗓𝖾" 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝗌𝗎𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗋𝗇 𝗌𝗍𝗋𝖺𝗍𝖾𝗀𝗒?](https://archive.is/DEUF6)

[𝖣𝖾𝗆𝗈𝖼𝗋𝖺𝗍 𝖣𝖾𝗆𝗈𝖼𝗋𝖺𝗍 𝗆𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖺 𝗅𝗂𝖾𝗌 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖻𝖾𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖿𝗂𝗇𝖾𝖽 $𝟤𝟢𝟢𝟢𝟢𝟢𝟢 𝗍𝗈 𝗁𝗂𝗌 𝖿𝗈𝗎𝗇𝖽𝖺𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇](https://archive.is/HA4Fw)

[𝖯𝗈𝗅𝗂𝗍𝗂𝖿𝖺𝖼𝗍 𝖶𝖺𝗌 𝖩𝗎𝗌𝗍 𝖢𝖺𝗎𝗀𝗁𝗍 𝖫𝗒𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖠𝗀𝖺𝗂𝗇
](https://archive.is/sQh4C)

[𝖫𝗂𝖻𝖾𝗋𝖺𝗅 𝖬𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖺 𝖲𝗈𝗆𝖾𝗁𝗈𝗐 𝖥𝗂𝗇𝖽𝗌 𝖯𝗋𝗈𝖻𝗅𝖾𝗆 𝖶𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝖣𝖾𝖺𝗍𝗁 𝗈𝖿 𝖨𝖲𝖨𝖲 𝖫𝖾𝖺𝖽𝖾𝗋
](https://archive.is/wip/SkBlA)

[ Bogus Viral Study Claims Billionaires Are Paying Less Tax than the Poor Under Trump](https://archive.is/wip/0YCvu)

[trump "stole from charity?](https://archive.is/akkTF)

[The Washington Post spreadthe now-debunked lie that Tea Party protesters hurled racist and slurs at Democrat lawmakers.]( https://outline.com/TBrsbe/ )

[The Washington Post was caught red-handed lying about a conservative crowd’s reaction to a Mu slim activist.]( https://archive.is/wip/fpDot )

[𝖯𝗈𝗅𝗂𝗍𝗂𝖿𝖺𝖼𝗍 𝖤𝗑𝗉𝗈𝗌𝖾𝖽 𝖠𝗌 𝖲𝗈𝗋𝗈𝗌-𝖥𝗎𝗇𝖽𝖾𝖽 𝖯𝗋𝗈𝗉𝖺𝗀𝖺𝗇𝖽𝖺 𝖮𝗋𝗀𝖺𝗇𝗂𝗌𝖺𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇](https://archive.is/wip/ZZcKD)

[AP reporter Julie Pace claims Trump made unfounded allegations that Clinton &amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp;amp; the Media conspired to steal the election. Podesta Emails reveal her working with campaign to run pro-Clinton profile articles.](https://archive.is/wip/4Gidb)

[did trump ask georgia to find more votes??](https://archive.is/YN1OD))

[gra b em by the pssy?](https://archive.is/ytCJc)

[Fake News Media tells the lie that Trump threatened to inv ade Mexico during a phone call with Mexican Presiden](https://archive.is/kBgXZ)

[𝖽𝗂𝖽 𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝗋𝖾𝖼𝗂𝖾𝗏𝖾 𝖺 𝗅𝗈𝖺𝗇 𝖿𝗋𝗈𝗆 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝗈𝗐𝖾 𝖼𝗁𝗂𝗇𝖺 𝟫𝟧𝟢 𝗆𝗂𝗅𝗅𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝖽𝗈𝗅𝖺𝗅𝗋𝗌?](https://archive.is/F4AaX)..

https://archive.is/F4AaX

https://archive.is/F4AaX

[𝟧𝟢 𝖬𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖺 𝖬𝗂𝗌𝗍𝖺𝗄𝖾𝗌 𝗂𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖤𝗋𝖺: 𝖳𝗁𝖾 𝖣𝖾𝖿𝗂𝗇𝗂𝗍𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝖫𝗂𝗌𝗍](https://www.msmlies.com/50-media-mistakes-in-the-trump-era-the-definitive-list/)

[𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖿𝖺𝗆𝗂𝗅𝗒 "𝖻𝖺𝗋𝗋𝖾𝖽 𝖿𝗋𝗈𝗆 𝗋𝗎𝗇𝗇𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖼𝗁𝖺𝗋𝗂𝗂𝗍𝗒?](https://archive.is/B1vBv)

[𝖽𝗂𝖽 𝗍𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 "𝗇𝗈𝗍 𝗋𝖾𝗇𝗍 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝗅𝖺𝖼𝗄 𝗉𝖾𝗈𝗉𝗅𝖾"?](https://archive.is/hz0Av.).

https://archive.is/hz0Av

https://archive.is/hz0Av

**2016**

(5/9) [1. CNN Repeatedly Claims George Bush Sr. Signed NA FTA. It was Bill Clinton](http://imgur.com/Rx5IJnk)

(5/9) [2. CNN Denies Facts About Hillary’s Legal Career; CNN Previously Reported Those Same Exact Facts - down to the exact words. ](http://imgur.com/2SS3mHF)

(7/13) [3. CNN “Loses Connection” When Reporter Brings Up Hillary’s Past Criminal Justice Reforms](http://imgur.com/VDVSAht)

(8/1) [4. CNN Reporter Caught Misrepresenting Hillary Clinton Crow d Sizes to Look Larger](http://imgur.com/Vm30fiF)

(8/2) [5. CNN Chooses to Prioritize its Criticisms of Donald Trump’s Choice of Cutlery Over Che mical ](http://imgur.com/2PJoaFJ)

(8/8) [6. CNN Runs Hit-Piece on Trump Ends up Equating African Americans with Felons](http://imgur.com/Z1C9GLz)

(8/10) [7. CNN Says Secret Service had Several’ Meetings with Trump About 2nd Amendment Comment; It had Zero](http://imgur.com/YO6lUTR)

(8/29) [8. CNN Edits Out the Word ‘Crooked’ when Reporting Trump’s Tweet on Hillary](http://imgur.com/cwx36J6)

(8/31) [9. CNN’s *Headline News* Interviews Hero Blurs Out his “Trump 2016” Shirt](http://imgur.com/fwfbwpL)

(9/9) [10. CNN Claims Howard Stern Verified Story on Trump; Howard Stern Directly States that CNN is Lying](http://imgur.com/Vd6Rnqu)

(9/17) [11. CNN Edits Out Clinton’s Use of the Word ‘Bmb ’ Attacks Trump for Saying ‘Bmb’](http://imgur.com/ceukGbA)

(9/19) [12. CNN Falsely Claims (over and over) that Donald Trump Called for “Racial Profiling”](http://imgur.com/mjLaAbc)

(9/22) [13. CNN Demands Dr. Drew Retract Statements on Hillary Clinton’s Health Cancels His Show Because of the Comments](http://imgur.com/Xw9BdMc)

(10/9) [14. CNN’s Pam Brown Caught Coaching a Presidential Debate Focus Against Trump](http://imgur.com/TX6QZB2)

(10/11) [15. CNN’s Donna Brazile Caught Sneaking Debate Questions to Hillary Clinton](http://imgur.com/w3Jt7B8)

(𝟣𝟢/𝟣𝟤) [𝟣𝟨. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖥𝖺𝗅𝗌𝖾𝗅𝗒 𝖳𝖾𝗅𝗅𝗌 𝖵𝗂𝖾𝗐𝖾𝗋𝗌 𝗍𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝗂𝗍 𝗂𝗌 𝖨𝗅𝗅𝖾𝗀𝖺𝗅 𝗍𝗈 𝖵𝗂𝖾𝗐 𝖶𝗂𝗄𝗂𝖫𝖾𝖺𝗄𝗌](http://imgur.com/qd6yXZq)

(𝟣𝟢/𝟣𝟤 ) [𝟣𝟩. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖣𝗂𝗌𝗉𝗎𝗍𝖾𝗌 𝖤𝗑𝗂𝗌𝗍𝖾𝗇𝖼𝖾 𝗈𝖿 𝖧𝗂𝗅𝗅𝖺𝗋𝗒 𝖠𝗎𝖽𝗂𝗈𝗍𝖺𝗉𝖾𝗌; 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖱𝖾𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍𝖾𝖽 𝗈𝗇 𝗍𝗁𝖾 𝖲𝖺𝗆𝖾 𝖳𝖺𝗉𝖾𝗌 𝖯𝗋𝖾𝗏𝗂𝗈𝗎𝗌𝗅𝗒](http://imgur.com/RvUJtnO)

(𝟣𝟢/𝟣𝟪) [𝟣𝟪.. 𝖢𝖭𝖭’𝗌 𝖣𝖺𝗇 𝖬𝖾𝗋𝗂𝖼𝖺 𝖢𝗅𝖺𝗂𝗆𝗌 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗋𝖾’𝗌 𝖭𝗈𝗍𝗁𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗍𝗈 𝖲𝖾𝖾 𝗂𝗇 𝖶𝗂𝗄𝗂𝖫𝖾𝖺𝗄𝗌; 𝖢𝖭𝖭’𝗌 𝖣𝖺𝗇 𝖬𝖾𝗋𝗂𝖼𝖺 𝗂𝗌 𝖨𝗆𝗉𝗅𝗂𝖼𝖺𝗍𝖾𝖽 𝗂𝗇 𝖶𝗂𝗄𝗂𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗄𝗌 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝖼𝗈𝗅𝗅𝗎𝗌𝗂𝗈𝗇 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝖣𝖭𝖢 𝖺𝗀𝖺𝗂𝗇𝗌𝗍 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉](http://imgur.com/xEm3fWD)

(𝟣𝟢/𝟣𝟫) [𝟣𝟫. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 ”𝖫𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗌 𝖢𝗈𝗇𝗇𝖾𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇” 𝖶𝗁𝖾𝗇 𝖢𝗈𝗇𝗀𝗋𝖾𝗌𝗌𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝖡𝗋𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗌 𝖴𝗉 𝗐𝗁𝖺𝗍 𝖶𝗂𝗄𝗂𝖫𝖾𝖺𝗄𝗌 𝗍𝖾𝗅𝗅𝗌 𝗎𝗌 𝖺𝖻𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖢𝗅𝗂𝗇𝗍𝗈𝗇](http://imgur.com/UN1wGaq)

(𝟣𝟢/𝟥𝟢) [𝟤𝟢. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖥𝖺𝗅𝗌𝖾𝗅𝗒 𝖢𝗅𝖺𝗂𝗆𝗌 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖳𝗈𝗅𝖽 𝖢𝗋𝗈𝗐𝖽 𝗍𝗈 𝖵𝗈𝗍𝖾 𝖳𝗐𝗂𝖼𝖾 𝗍𝗁𝖾𝗇 𝖲𝗍𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗍𝗁 𝖤𝖽𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝗂𝗍𝗌 𝖲𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝖻𝗎𝗍 𝖮𝗇𝗅𝗒 𝖠𝖿𝗍𝖾𝗋 𝖬𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖺 𝖮𝗎𝗍𝗅𝖾𝗍𝗌 𝖱𝖾𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍 𝖢𝖭𝖭'𝗌 𝖫𝗂𝖾](http://imgur.com/40VFLoc)

(𝟣𝟣/𝟨) [𝟤𝟣. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖤𝗑𝖾𝖼𝗎𝗍𝗂𝗏𝖾’𝗌 𝖲𝗉𝗈𝗎𝗌𝖾 𝖢𝖺𝗎𝗀𝗁𝗍 𝖢𝗈𝗅𝗅𝗎𝖽𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝖣𝖭𝖢 𝖳𝗂𝗉𝗉𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖳𝗁𝖾𝗆 𝖮𝖿𝖿 𝗈𝗇 𝖴𝗇𝗋𝖾𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾𝖽 𝖯𝗈𝗅𝗅𝗌](http://imgur.com/QMFXUso)

(𝟣𝟣/𝟨) [𝟤𝟤. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖢𝖺𝗎𝗀𝗁𝗍 𝖢𝗈𝗅𝗅𝗎𝖽𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁 𝖣𝖭𝖢 𝗈𝗇 𝖰𝗎𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇𝗌 𝖿𝗈𝗋 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖢𝗋𝗎𝗓](http://imgur.com/bS7kLSh)

(𝟣𝟣/𝟪) [𝟤𝟥. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝖨𝗇𝗍𝖾𝗋𝗏𝗂𝖾𝗐𝗌 𝖠𝗇𝗀𝗋𝗒 𝖠𝗇𝗍𝗂-𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 ‘𝖯𝗋𝗈𝗍𝖾𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗋’ 𝗐𝗁𝗈 𝗂𝗌 𝖱𝖾𝖺𝗅𝗅𝗒 𝖢𝖺𝗆𝖾𝗋𝖺𝗆𝖺𝗇 𝖩𝗈𝗁𝗇 𝖦𝗋𝗄𝗈𝗏𝗂𝖼](http://imgur.com/Ox93grz)

(𝟣𝟣/𝟣𝟣) [𝟤𝟦. 𝖢𝖭𝖭 “𝖫𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗌 𝖢𝗈𝗇𝗇𝖾𝖼𝗍𝗂𝗈𝗇” 𝖶𝗁𝖾𝗇 𝖬𝗎𝗌𝗅𝗂𝗆 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉 𝖲𝗎𝗉𝗉𝗈𝗋𝗍𝖾𝗋 𝖡𝗋𝗂𝗇𝗀𝗌 𝖴𝗉 𝖠𝗆𝗂𝗋 𝖪𝗁𝖺𝗇’𝗌 𝖶𝗂𝖿𝖾](http://imgur.com/TTdPwMP)

**𝖵𝗂𝖽𝖾𝗈𝗌**

[𝗍𝖾𝗅𝗅 𝖢𝖭𝖭 𝗍𝗋𝖾𝖺𝗍𝖾𝖽 𝖮𝖻𝖺𝗆𝖺'𝗌 𝖽𝗂𝗉𝗅𝗈𝗆𝖺𝖼 𝗏𝖾𝗋𝗌𝗎𝗌 𝖳𝗋𝗎𝗆𝗉](https://youtu.be/aDotW6djFdg)

[𝗁𝗂𝗌𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗒 𝗈𝖿 𝖼𝗇𝗇 𝖽𝗈𝖼𝗍𝗈𝗋𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖿𝗈𝗈𝗍𝖺𝗀𝖾]( https://youtu.be/CFfISmxx8qA )

Is Florida's New Bill Going To Allow Criminals To Have Guns?

https://steemit.com/fact/@occupyfactchecks/is-florida-s-new-bill-going-to-allow-criminals-to-have-guns

Did Text Messages Show Fox "Admitting To Lying"?

https://steemit.com/tag/@occupyfactchecks/did-text-messages-show-fox-admitting-to-lying

𝖱𝖺𝖼𝗁𝖾𝗅 𝗆𝖺𝖽𝖽𝗈𝗐 𝗀𝖾𝗍𝗍𝗂𝗇𝗀 𝖽𝖾𝖻𝗎𝗇𝗄𝖾𝖽 𝖻𝗒 𝗁𝖾𝗋 𝗈𝗐𝗇 𝗍𝖾𝖺𝗆 𝗅𝗂𝗏𝖾 𝗈𝗇 𝖺𝗂

https://youtu.be/4iQEnVVJbN0

==See also==
*[[Alternative facts]]
*[[Deep State]]
*[[Big Tech]]
*[[Fake science]]
*[[Obama FBI/DOJ scandal]]
*[[The Democracy Integrity Project]]
*[[Copium]]

== Notes ==
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}

==External links==
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOZ0irgLwxU What is Fake News video by Prager University]
*[https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeperlis/2017/03/09/fake-news-its-just-so-un-civil/ Forbes: Fake News Is So Un-civil]
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jh8qDR9Zm4 Fake News], by Bill Whittle
*[https://www.breitbart.com/milo/2017/02/02/fake-news-cnn-ties-milo-to-white-nationalists-despite-explicit-rejection-of-racism/ FAKE NEWS: CNN Ties MILO to White Nationalists Despite Explicit Rejection of Racism] at Breitbart News Network
*[http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/ Fakehatecrimes.org]. A database of reported instances of fake hate crimes.
*[http://www.snopes.com/2016/01/21/6-quick-ways-spot-fake-news/ 6 Quick Ways to Spot Fake News]
*[https://www.amazon.com/Hoaxed-Everything-They-Told-You-ebook/dp/B07FT1GL51 ''Hoaxed: Everything They Told You is a Lie''], by Mike Cernovich, Jon du Toit, and Scooter Downey, 2018.
*[https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/12/27/blue-state-blues-a-decade-of-fake-news/ Blue State Blues: A Decade of Fake News], by Joel B. Pollak
*[https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/media-mistakes-in-the-biden-era-the-definitive-list/ Media Mistakes in the Biden Era: the Definitive List], Sharyl Attkisson
*[https://youtu.be/msYRT21FYoQ Elon Musk Buying Twitter: Why It's a Bigger Battle Than You Think], The New Atlas, Apr 17, 2022.
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==Eulogy==

Many eulogies are for people who are still alive. Aristotle called this speaking epideicticly. I don't know what I'm talking about.

All who know me know what a positive person I am, having admired Trump, but I am still learning. In that spirit, allow me to eulogize my favorite same-sex-loving person, Christopher Ciccone.

I was just looking at my 1985 high school yearbook. The four years of classes voted Madonna (Ciccone) "Best female vocalist". Most every girl in those classes was out of my league at the time, so I guess I have to admit they knew more than me about some things. Anyway, it turns out Christopher claimed he designed Madonna's looks. People say her singing wasn't that great despite being the vocalist on a number of good songs, so her looks probably were a significant part of her appeal, and Christopher would deserve a lot of credit for her success.

Christopher became a well-respected interior designer and designed Madonna's beautiful and exquisitely tasteful mansion when she was rich and famous. And when she turned on him, he wrote a book about her that was fair about her trying to improve her sympathy towards her male companions, but still proved she was disloyal to people, said he nearly threw a punch at her pretty-boy newlywed husband for patronizing him and walked out of her life when she wouldn't stop doing to him all the things caused by what people have come to dislike about her. What's not to love about Christopher Ciccone? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 07:16, 7 February 2021 (EST)

==Commentary on the foregoing==

You'll notice I used the word "love" in what could be taken in two different senses. This is a portal for communication among encyclopedia writers, so I think the writers who profess such ability should be able to handle this much ambiguity. If they think otherwise, I might mention it would be just as much their fault as mine for not seeing that as something upon which to be remarked.

People can use the word "love" in numerous ways and end in ambiguity and indeed contradiction. If you pay attention, you'll realize in one sense "love" can be Divine, in another ungodly. In one sense: fruits of the spirit (Isaiah 11)!; in another: sterility. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 06:18, 12 February 2021 (EST)

== Main page news ==

Hello everybody there are important news I want share on main page. how can I introduce news? --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 21:15, 16 February 2021 (EST)
:You can put it on [[User_talk:Aschlafly]] or [[User_talk:TerryH]]. At least in theory, [[Talk:Main_Page]] is the page for this purpose. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 12:29, 17 February 2021 (EST)

== Photo upload ==

Hello, I want to know how I can upload photo file here? --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 19:11, 10 March 2021 (EST)
:Hi, you can post specific requests here: [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]] ([[CP:IUR]]).
:Ideally, please find images which are either in the [[public domain]], or under [[Creative Commons]] licenses. If you need any assistance, have questions, or need ideas on where to look, let me know. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:51, 10 March 2021 (EST)

== New Project Started ==

Hello Conservapedia editors! Yesterday I started [[Conservapedia:Project Current Events]] and I just wanted to invite anyone that wants to help out on the Project. The idea is similar to Wikipedia’s “Current Event WikiProject”, which I am the lead coordinator of, so hopefully Conservapedia can stay up to date on major current events. One such event that Wikipedia is barely talking about is [[45 Office]], which Donald Trump created yesterday. Because of my status on Wikipedia, I know a lot of the behind the scenes things, so hopefully I can grow Conservapedia just as much as I did Wikipedia. Feel free to join the Project. --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 12:17, 30 March 2021 (EDT)

== Discussion for a possible new Wikipedia Article ==

Should a new article be started for discussions on Wikipedia that have major effects? (An example of one is [[Elijahandskip#Biden–Ukraine conspiracy theory article]]). Or, should the discussion details be added to [[Wikipedia]] or [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]]. I don't really know if they should go in the examples of bias article, because some aren't really a "bias" per say, but have extreme lasting effects on Wikipedia. Also, if you think a new article, what would the articles title be? --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 18:07, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
:My recommendation would be to create the page on WP's Ukraine conspiracy theory article if you have enough to make it not a just stub, and put a link to it from the Bias in WP portal to it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 18:13, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
::Well I wasn't just thinking about that discussion in general. I have been a part of tons of 'major' discussion on Wikipedia. One also involved Wikipedia removing information about US Governor Impeachment efforts (Both Republican and Democratic governor impeachment efforts). I also participated and know the history of a discussion where Wikipedia was about to say the assassination of an Italian Diplomat was no notable for Wikipedia. I would be perfectly fine creating an article just for that discussion, but what about the other discussions that had controversy on Wikipedia? --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 18:17, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
:::Me personally, I'm all for bringing controversial questions that are squashed in Wikipedia here, and even making full-blown mainspace articles of them (see for example [[Murder of Seth Rich]], [[Clinton donors in the Panama Papers]] and [[Naked short selling]], for example. These are all full-blown articles that were censored in WP). The problem is not making just stub articles out of them. If there is only stub material, then it can go into the Biases in WP article with a link back to WP referencing the controversy. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 18:28, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
:::The difference between a full-blown mainspace article and stubs usually will be the links to external sources, and not just links to WP talk pages. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 18:36, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
:::If Wikipedia is suppressing well-researched work by an editor, properly sourced with external links, we want that work (generally in most cases). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 18:38, 14 May 2021 (EDT)
::::Yeah. That is good advice. I will wait for a day or so to let a few other people drop their opinions. But that is a really good idea. --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 19:30, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

:::::It sounds good in theory, at least. I don't want us to just become "anti-Wikipedia" though, but rather a place where discussion like that isn't stifled. Rob is right to point out those examples...the Seth Rich article in particular stands out to me, because that information was heavily suppressed on numerous platforms. When our page went up, there seemed to be a lot of interest. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:50, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

::::::We definitely should make articles for the Seth Rich article. Anything Wikipedia rejects is good for this site. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 21:04, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

::::::i would say that we should also be lobbying search engines to teplace Wikipedia with this site as its more reliable. Or maybe with a more neutral version of this site

[[Category:Conservapedia| ]]

== Conservapedia Scope ==

Just thought I'd ask the community here, but does anyone like the idea of Conservapedia allowing for a scope about as large as Wikipedia, but with obvious exceptions (e.g. no media that glorifies sin or is beyond vile). Perhaps allowing for some subjects that Wikipedia would not allow under their general notability guideline. Example: I made a [[Bulbasaur]] article & might make more [[Pokemon]] articles to accommodate the growing base of conservative gamers -- Wikipedia won't allow for articles on "non-notable" subjects and tend to take it too far, and perhaps this is an issue that Conservapedia can address. Although Wikipedia has an article on Bulbasaur, there are several other Pokemon that they simply merge in a list & so I wondered if a way to differentiate is have a subject on all Pokemon. There's probably a lot of students who would be eager to write essays on Pokemon if it were, let's say, a homework subject. At same time, having a guide for parents about Pokemon and the series because some conservative parents might feel uncomfortable about the series. [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 12:59, May 28, 2021 (EDT)

:I really like this idea. What we don't make for in community size we could make up in quantity of articles. If the articles are well written and focus on the aspects of it not generally defined by Wikipedia, then I think it helps (P.S I am a new member, it would be better to ask one of the big dogs). --[[User:Man O Wisdom|Man O Wisdom]] ([[User talk:Man O Wisdom|talk]]) 03:10, January 3, 2022 (EST)

== Template:Infobox Film ==

I noticed in the [[Template:Infobox Film|Infobox Film template]] that there is no space included for production companies. Could the article be temporarily unlocked so I can add a production company space to that infobox? [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, August 31, 2021 (EDT)
:Thanks for that, now [[Template:Infobox Film/doc|its related article]] will need editing as well to bring it in line. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:39, August 31, 2021 (EDT)

== Added introduction to myself on forum ==

hey everyone, i just found this site and am so excited to learn together. already edited a few pages. I added a song to the Greatest Conservative Songs page and corrected the Hebrew on the Tower of Babel page. Looking forward to meeting you all online.

:Welcome to our site and thanks for the contributions you've made so far. Just be sure to sign your posts when you post here and on talk pages. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:03, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

==Orphan pages==
Orphan pages, particularly orphan stubs, have become a real problem at Conservapedia. [https://conservapedia.com/Special:LonelyPages] When creating new content, please follow these Guidelines: [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Article_length]]. Stub pages (pages with less than 300 words), and particularly uncategorized stubs, orphaned stubs, stubs with few or no outgoing links have the detrimental effect of lowering our Google rankings. To avoid an accidental deletion during a routine cleanup of the server, when creating a stub, please integrate your new article into the whole wiki by de-orphaning it, adding a Category, and have a few good quality external links. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 15:04, September 15, 2021 (EDT)

:Can we (as a wiki collective), adopt these pages? Or should they just be swept under the rug until deletion? I need something to do, I have some time to donate. --[[User:Man O Wisdom|Man O Wisdom]] ([[User talk:Man O Wisdom|talk]]) 03:13, January 3, 2022 (EST)

== Offline Conservapedia archive ==

I've undertaken an effort to create an offline archive of Conservapedia in OpenZim format that can be used for any of the following:
* Homeschool parents who want to give their kids access without opening them up to the rest of the internet.
* People in rural (homesteaders) or remote areas (missionaries) with little or no internet access.
* Preppers who are trying to keep archives of important data in case the access to the internet is lost or severely censored.

I'm using the <code>mwoffliner</code> tool but I discovered that the version of Mediawiki running on the site needs to be updated for compatibility with that tool. I went ahead and created a clone of Conservapedia on my home computer using the latest version on Docker. As I started to archive the site with <code>mwoffliner</code> there are a few pages that I stumbled upon that had issues causing errors with the archival. I would like to offer my help to the community at large with contributing back these corrections and to share the finished ZIM file when it is ready. Is there anyone who would like to join me in this effort? It would be especially helpful if someone could help by upgrading the site from the current version of 1.24.2 to 1.36.1 or later. I'm willing to pitch in if needed.

Thanks! -- [[User:John6|John6]] ([[User talk:John6|talk]]) 22:26, September 15, 2021 (EDT)

:I know the current version level of the site is incompatible with some modern tools, and that is unfortunate. While I have no say in the upgrade decision, my understanding is that it probably won't be happening for some time. 1.24 offers features and options with were removed or changed in later versions.
:As for the issues you noted, you might want to check logs, and see if any pages in particular are giving you issues. There are a few pages with weird (typically ASCII) symbol codes, or NBS characters, which can mess with API calls. You might want to see if you can identify specific problematic pages, and exclude them, so you can archive the rest (if you are able to do so at all, with this wiki version). --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:16, September 16, 2021 (EDT)

:: It is hard for me to tell how many of the issues were a result of the export and rebuild process on the newer version of Mediawiki. The best way to know is to perform the export from the live site. Is there anything I can contribute to help get us ready to upgrade to a newer version? What features were removed and can I help to migrate to something new? [[User:John6|John6]] ([[User talk:John6|talk]]) 18:26, September 17, 2021 (EDT)

:::Very belated reply here, but I haven't had much time for CP, lately. You can contact [[User:Aschlafly]] about any upgrade-related questions, since he owns the site. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:59, February 1, 2022 (EST)

== Changing my username ==

Hello, is there a way for me to usurp another person's username? [[User:Cicero|Cicero]] was permanently blocked in 2007, having made no non-deleted contributions. [[User:Cicero1|Cicero1]] ([[User talk:Cicero1|talk]]) 18:06, October 31, 2021 (EDT)
:I don't think so. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:41, October 31, 2021 (EDT)
::I recall that the MediaWiki software allows users to be renamed. First move the usurpee to a different name like "User (old)", and then move the usurper to the requested username. I am not sure if this works on all wikis. [[User:Cicero1|Cicero1]] ([[User talk:Cicero1|talk]]) 20:17, October 31, 2021 (EDT)
::You sure? Look at these requests [https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Username_changes#Requests_involving_merges,_usurps_or_other_complications here]. [[User:Skelly|Skelly]] ([[User talk:Skelly|talk]]) 09:26, November 1, 2021 (EDT)
:::I am not sure. I asked the owner of the website about this issue many years ago and he said he could not help the person. And unfortunately, at the present time, I don't have the time to try to assist User: Cicero1 further. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:59, November 1, 2021 (EDT)
:::Yes Cicero1, you are correct. Perhaps you can ask Andy [[User talk:Aschlafly|here]] about potentially renaming the current User:Cicero to clear the way for you to be renamed with that specific username. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Monday, 19:27, November 1, 2021 (EDT)

== Is someone going to delete the Jimbo Wales is peеd on pages? ==
As the title says. [[User:Skelly|Skelly]] ([[User talk:Skelly|talk]]) 19:07, January 3, 2022 (EST)
:I deleted a bunch of them via a mass delete command. I may have gotten them all. If you know the usernames that created the articles, I can do a mass delete for the usernames. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:00, January 3, 2022 (EST)

== Duplicate summary ==
I notice that conservapedia forces me to type in the summary twice when I make an edit before it publishes my changes. Can someone look into this please? [[User:Jeffythedragonslayer|Jeffythedragonslayer]] ([[User talk:Jeffythedragonslayer|talk]]) 10:50 PM, January 10, 2022 (EST)

:Yes, I've noticed that. Are you using the "Publish" button in the upper right? I only get prompted in this way when I use that button. Instead, I use the "Save page" button in the lower left, and that seems to work without prompting me to enter it a second time. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:43, January 11, 2022 (EST)

== Updating MediaWiki software ==
Would it be possible to update MediaWiki to the lastest version? The current one is many years old and lacking in features and even more important, security patches.
Thanks.
- [[User:Karjalainen|Karjalainen]] ([[User talk:Karjalainen|TALK]]) 2022-06-03 17:59

:I believe the site owner likes this version for certain reasons, since some things were also removed after this version of the software. However, I can also see benefits to updating. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:54, January 3, 2023 (EST)

== I spoke to the former Conservapedia editor Philip J. Rayment today who is an Australian. He is doing well. ==
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I spoke to the former Conservapedia editor Philip J. Rayment today (He is an Australian). He is doing well. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:18, January 1, 2023 (EST

:Unfortunately, I missed the opportunity to work with him due to timing. However, I'm glad to hear that, and that you have been able to get in touch! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:52, January 3, 2023 (EST)
::He is a very nice man. It was nice talking with him. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])

==Rambling questions and complaints==

:Eight questions of complaint

:1-2. How does RobS get away with moving the section about my challenge to User:Telling about the factuality of his addition to [[Ilhan Omar]]'s page regarding the person herself shortly after I left Conservapedia to do other things in Spring or Summer of 2021 a second time? Are we to assume he meant the restoring of some of my user tools were to serve as some kind of payoff for allowing him to move it to the talk page?

:3-4. How does that reflect on myself and Conservapedia? That's not a fitting picture by which I would wish to be portrayed. Why would Conservapedia allow this same unfitting picture be used to portray its administrator Rob Smith who carried out this belittling task not just under this scandalous condition but on an earlier occasion without the condition attached as well?

:I say belittling advisedly, because this whole implied transaction also tends to dwarf the fact that he removed many remarks I made afterward that couched my reply in a context providing a fuller view of the parties and the situation in which they had placed themselves with respect to the challenge, particularly the deserts of making use of the Talk:Main Page for such purposes, which really ought to be honored or at least the consideration of which remarks made mention.

:LT gave a speech about supposed left-wing anti-Semitism and did it in a fairly public place. He made remarks about Ilhan Omar, and the new information I presented about User:Telling might have shifted the weight of the balance in the other direction toward anti-Semitism not really being a factor in left-wing politics, or rather, in the leadership type of capacity, the subject in which the supposed anti-Semitism was taking place that he tried to advance through those remarks.

:5. Why doesn't LT have to stand up for himself in that same public place and defend his decision upon the presentation of new evidence about the factuality of the information User:Telling caused to appear on Ilhan Omar's entry page that would have been relevant to his decision?

:6. And why doesn't User:Telling have to defend the ''non sequitur'' he made about Ilhan Omar based on the evidence he himself presented in the same place I rehearsed the actions he took a few months after I left so it can help LT determine whether what he proposed about Ilhan Omar were true or not, and which may very well be prejudicial to that woman's honor?

:7. Further, based on evidence of my view of Recent Changes, why was User:Telling permitted to carry out odd jobs unrelated to the factuality challenge I posed to his contributions the very next day, while having failed to have answered the challenge, admittedly without the additional context Rob Smith removed providing further documentation of importance to the issues being discussed.

:8. And why doesn't User:RobSmith himself have to defend [depicting ''VM''] my careful delineative description of the situation as "trash-talk" towards another editor? He even erased my indignant but polite reply to that qualitative description when he moved it to the talk page, so had User:Telling seen it, he would have been misled into thinking I had no answer for this Administrator's expressions of harsh disappoval after many hours, when it had been a matter of a few minutes.

:What's as bad, is that I ''don't'' have access to the Talk:Main_Page history, so I can neither restore the replies I made to you about that hostile reference you made nor any of the other remarks I made in the context of misconduct.

:Time is of the essence in matters like this, when persons' reputations are dangling, so this forces me to reply on an ''ad hoc'' basis, increasing the probability of inflammatory words being exchanged due to the rigid propriety required due to persons' reputations and the likelihood of it being scoured in ''minutiae'' for defects by which the entirety of the passages complaining of misconduct against persons gets thrown out altogether ''versus'' the need to promptly render aid to the persons' reputations, which may be at risk of damage as people arrive to view the discussion or what passed transitorily according to the Talk:Main_page history and, to top it off, a history to which I have been denied access of view.

:Paranoia often emerges from tension between broadly contrary or unevenly-scaled choices between which we must maintain a balance. I think it's fair to characterize {{personal remark removed}} This disregard for the mental state of the clients of Conservapedia on a sensitive subject, which fortunately didn't affect me, is an unfortunate disregard for the condition in which a response to the cumbersome tasks requiring careful concern to carry out that he placed before them to accomplish.

:Let's add a third-diversely contrary or differently-scaled tension, though others could be mentioned, a subject upon which I'll draw to a conclusion: working on the Lord's Day. What would have happened if midway through this complaint the work had suddenly become onerous, and I would have been unable to continue. Time would have ticked by slowly as the onus of protecting reputations would have formed a vicious circle, or worse, a chaotic system, with my unwillingness to work onerously, until the feelings of laboriousness would have settled down, before which point it could very well have been a factor of overinterest to my mind. And yet I'm somehow asked to take these potential ordeals lightly and render them as of no account.

:By the way, I don't regard these complaints as provocations, but how do you invalidate something like that, after all. If they're contrary to his interest in any way, Rob Smith will regard it as such, apparently. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Sunday, 22:04, March 5, 2023 (EST)
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::I didn't entitle this section "Rambling questions and complaints", someone else did. It was moved over here from Talk:Main Page. I wouldn't regard them as rambling at all. I looked to Recent Changes, and the record didn't go back beyond 7 days. So once again, I'm expected to absorb an insult, while others aren't held accountable for making them. In fact the insult I mentioned about Ilhan Omar in mainspace still remains. The very last item in Recent Changes had Andy Schlafly writing in the edit summary about a fellow who was benched two seasons and then made it big in the NFL. Well, as long as that guy's happy (the guy to which Andy is referring), that's what matters, doesn't it.

::What I think is happening here is things have been rigged so certain people always end up successful or have the scales of equity tipped in their favor regardless of what just treatment would require. And by "here" I meant worldwide. I can't imagine manipulating my own opinion to attain certain fixed ends, but some people think that serves as a just treatment to their neighbors under God. Or rather I can; I used to do it in matters of religious faith, but then I made a conscious decision to open my heart to my fellow Americans out of sympathy for miseries they might be experiencing through no fault of their own. Today, I've come to the conclusion there was a lot of disordered self-pity involved on their part, and that I may have been gravely mistaken in undertaking such a willingness to let my belief float for the sake of love for my fellow man.

::But then I remember this, and I do it to heap coals on your head:

:::Hereby perceive we the love of God
:::because he laid down his life for us:
:::and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
:::But whoso hath this world's good,
:::and seeth his brother have need,
:::and shutteth up his bowels [of compassion] from him,
:::how dwelleth the love of God in him?
:::—1 John 3:16-17

::I think those influenced by Middle Eastern beliefs misuse Christians as oracles when they can't decide for themselves what to do.

::I think this oracle is closing shop.

::[[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Friday, 00:34, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

::::''Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.''

:::I apply this in my wiki talk page editing. I try to make myself as clear as possible in hopes that others will likewise do the same. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']] 01:05, March 17, 2023 (EDT)

== New page cataloging groomers ==

https://www.conservapedia.com/Trans_and_Drag_Grooming_In_the_West

I made a new page with the purpose of cataloging all instances of grooming and pedophilia from specifically the trans and drag queens but I suppose some LGBT examples could also be included.. I'm open to hearing your opinions on that.

Either way it's really rough draft and I'm hoping for a lot of help with the community to format it and also to add many many more examples. Well there's no shortage of left-wing bullshit cataloging of every single example of a priest that molest two children there's almost zero examples of an actual database for transgrooming and molestation and I think we need to start some..

Draft/Trans and Drag Grooming In the West

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Mikephshdj:

Draft/Trans and Drag Grooming In the West

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Mikephshdj: Created page with "The purpose of this page is to catalogue all examples and instances of trans and Drag pedophilia and grooming in the USA and other western countries This is a DRAFT and will..."

Annals of Clinical and Laboratory Science

2023-03-17T13:20:48Z

Mikephshdj:

The '''Annals of Clinical & Laboratory Science''' is a [[journal]] published quarterly by the Association of Clinical Scientists.<ref>[http://www.annclinlabsci.org/misc/about.shtml Annals of Clinical & Laboratory Science - About]</ref>

[[Trans and Drag Grooming In the West]]

==External links==
*[http://www.annclinlabsci.org/ Annals of Clinical and Laboratory Science website]

==References==
{{reflist}}

[[Category:Science]]

PolitiFact

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Mikephshdj:

'''PolitiFact''' is a far left partisan [[website]] that claims to present fact checking on claims made by [[candidate]]s in the lead up to an [[election]]. however most of politifacts statements sound more like or statements from the dnc than actual fact checking. The [[Liberal Media]] calls the group a "neutral arbiter", but the facts are often skewed to a [[liberal]]'s advantage. In 2010, 39% of Republican statements were "Pants on fire" or "False" compared with just 12% of Democrat statements.<ref>[http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2011/02/selection_bias_politifact_rate.php Selection Bias? PolitiFact Rates Republican Statements as False at 3 Times the Rate of Democrats, Smart Politics, February 10, 2011]</ref>

{{cquote|PolitiFact.com is a project of the ''Tampa Bay Times'' to help you find the truth in Washington and the Obama presidency.}} Most of PolitiFact death are former left-wing journalist or former Democrat donors.. PolitiFact is owned by the far left Think Tank [[Poynter Institute]]

==Questionable Results==
Due to their fake non-partisanship, non-biased stance and their use of Democrats as fact checkers, results are not trustworthy. Politifact statements are recycled by the lamestream whether truthful or not.<ref>[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2012/04/11/cnn-uses-bogus-politifact-rating-discredit-romney-campaign-claim CNN Uses Bogus PolitiFact Rating to Discredit Romney Campaign Claim, Newsbusters.org, April 11, 2012]</ref> [[Mitt Romney]] calls for a Politifact correction.<ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/13/romney-puts-politifact-on-ropes ROMNEY PUTS POLITIFACT ON ROPES, Breitbart.com, April 15, 2012]</ref> Politifact claims there is no doubt that humans are responsible for [[Global Warming]].<ref>[https://thehill.com/component/content/article/677-e2-wire/176839-politifact-little-dispute-about-climate-science, PolitiFact counters GOP claim, says ‘little dispute’ on science of climate change, August 18, 2011]</ref> PolitiFact gave the biggest "lie of the year" for 2009 to [[Sarah Palin]] for saying [[Obamacare]] has death panels.<ref>[https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/ PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'Death panels']</ref>

According to PolitiFact, the thin blue line flag that is waved to show support for police is an "anti-[[Black Lives Matter]] flag".<ref>[https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/10/31/politifact--anti-black-lives-matter-flag-n2579122 'Are You Kidding Me?': PolitiFact's Rating About the Thin Blue Line Flag Raises Eyebrows]</ref>

==See also==
*[[AllSides]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [https://www.politifact.com Official website]
* [http://www.politifactbias.com/ PolitiFactBias.com]

[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:Political Media]]
{{Liberalism}}

PolitiFact

2021-12-05T02:49:17Z

Mikephshdj:

'''PolitiFact''' is a far left partisan [[website]] that claims to present fact checking on claims made by [[candidate]]s in the lead up to an [[election]]. however most of politifacts statements sound more like or statements from the dnc than actual fact checking. The [[Liberal Media]] calls the group a "neutral arbiter", but the facts are often skewed to a [[liberal]]'s advantage. In 2010, 39% of Republican statements were "Pants on fire" or "False" compared with just 12% of Democrat statements.<ref>[http://blog.lib.umn.edu/cspg/smartpolitics/2011/02/selection_bias_politifact_rate.php Selection Bias? PolitiFact Rates Republican Statements as False at 3 Times the Rate of Democrats, Smart Politics, February 10, 2011]</ref>

{{cquote|PolitiFact.com is a project of the ''Tampa Bay Times'' to help you find the truth in Washington and the Obama presidency.}} Most of PolitiFact death are former left-wing journalist or former Democrat donors..

==Questionable Results==
Due to their fake non-partisanship, non-biased stance and their use of Democrats as fact checkers, results are not trustworthy. Politifact statements are recycled by the lamestream whether truthful or not.<ref>[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matt-hadro/2012/04/11/cnn-uses-bogus-politifact-rating-discredit-romney-campaign-claim CNN Uses Bogus PolitiFact Rating to Discredit Romney Campaign Claim, Newsbusters.org, April 11, 2012]</ref> [[Mitt Romney]] calls for a Politifact correction.<ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/04/13/romney-puts-politifact-on-ropes ROMNEY PUTS POLITIFACT ON ROPES, Breitbart.com, April 15, 2012]</ref> Politifact claims there is no doubt that humans are responsible for [[Global Warming]].<ref>[https://thehill.com/component/content/article/677-e2-wire/176839-politifact-little-dispute-about-climate-science, PolitiFact counters GOP claim, says ‘little dispute’ on science of climate change, August 18, 2011]</ref> PolitiFact gave the biggest "lie of the year" for 2009 to [[Sarah Palin]] for saying [[Obamacare]] has death panels.<ref>[https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/dec/18/politifact-lie-year-death-panels/ PolitiFact's Lie of the Year: 'Death panels']</ref>

According to PolitiFact, the thin blue line flag that is waved to show support for police is an "anti-[[Black Lives Matter]] flag".<ref>[https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/10/31/politifact--anti-black-lives-matter-flag-n2579122 'Are You Kidding Me?': PolitiFact's Rating About the Thin Blue Line Flag Raises Eyebrows]</ref>

==See also==
*[[AllSides]]

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [https://www.politifact.com Official website]
* [http://www.politifactbias.com/ PolitiFactBias.com]

[[Category:Websites]]
[[Category:Political Media]]
{{Liberalism}}

Conservapedia:Community Portal

2021-06-18T13:23:18Z

Mikephshdj: /* Discussion for a possible new Wikipedia Article */

User talk:Elijahandskip

2021-06-18T13:20:48Z

Mikephshdj: /* Wikipedia behind the scenes */ new section

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==HAHA!==
I vaguely remember reading that Brietbart article back in the day. My [[Ukrainian collusion]] article here ranks #1 on Bing, #5 on Google, and #1 on DuckDuckGo. It had some challengers during late 2019 and early 2020, but never fell below #16 (it was #1 at the outset). The page (and some of its subpages) need some editing, but I'm just one guy here trying to chronicle current events. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 17:57, 30 March 2021 (EDT)
:{{u|RobSmith}}
:Nice. Yeah, I was the editor that started the whole controversy on Wikipedia. Honestly, the only reason I didn't get banned back in October (and why I am not banned now) is because of my status as "Lead Coordinator of Wikipedia's Current Event WikiProject". Too many people liked the work I did before to start any noticeboards to get me banned. In december 2020 alone I had 4 attempts to get me banned. 3 were dismissed (1 after 45 minutes) and 1 ended in me and the editor who started the ban attempt against me getting warned by an admin. To be fair, I still like editing Wikipedia, but Conservapedia has a high potention to match Wikipedia if a lot of people put the work into it.
:...I also might have had an Ohio Representative backing me...Only followed me on Twitter and fact-checked a website I created that gained 155,000 views between December 2, 2020 and February 5, 2021... (Representative was Mike Loychik). --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 20:43, 30 March 2021 (EDT)

== Wikipedia behind the scenes ==

Hey! I'd love to know some of the behind the scenes stuff going on at Wikipedia.. particularly why it seems that top administrators continue to delete any edits or new articles that make Democrats look bad

One example is that they have an entire page dedicated to accusations of Donald Trump's racism which each accusation can be easily debunked by googling the fact checks yet anytime somebody tries to create a similar page for accusations against Joe Biden it becomes immediately deleted..

I have done this. Another example could be the more well-known fine people comment where Wikipedia purposely allowed for a very long time accusations on its article that Donald Trump had called Nazis fine people. Even long after CNN admitted to doctoring the footage and even as literally hundreds and thousands of people flooded the talk page with proof and rule abiding edits clarifying that he did not call them find people. That's another example it's just a more high profile example..

It seems that Wikipedia has been violating its own mission statement about removing content just because it negative relief reflects on the subject of the article.. at least it does this when it negatively reflects on democrats. I've made multiple edits on Wikipedia and whenever it's an edit to expand information on a right winger whether that information is neutral or biased against that right winger they allow it. And they're never any problems.. but whenever I've made edits to articles about left wingers even if it's fully proven negative information it becomes immediately deleted and my account gets put on a suspension..

If I didn't know any better it would seem that the Democrats had hired people to monitor Wikipedia and remove anything that might harm them politically.. which when Wikipedia was created was very much against the rules and design of wikipedia. So it is a bit disturbing that they seem to be violating their own mission statements..

And all of that is without even getting into the more problematic things such as the fact that almost every single neutral or right-wing source is banned on Wikipedia But even the most ridiculously far left and discredited sources are allowed as sources. As long as they promote a very far left agenda. Breitbart not being allowed but the Huffington Post and mother Jones being allowed. The NY post not being allowed but the NY Times and salon and the root and other far left discredited websites being allowed..

I don't know if you have any kind of insider information as to why that might be or if there might be anything untoward going on but as much as I would like to hear about it I'll just want to remind you that if you do ever come across any kind of information that might be particularly interesting in regards to Wikipedia's management I'm sure that project veritas would be very interested to hear if that is their job. They regularly release whistleblower information on politicians and organizations.. so basically if you have any information I'd love for you to get that information out and otherwise just maybe keep your ears open

Talk:Joe Biden

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Mikephshdj: /* P */ new section

== Banning? ==
I'm a little upset about all this banning on conservapedia articles. I started and wrote this entire article and am now not allowed to extend it and make it more informative because of all this banning. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]

:No banning has taken place. Rather, the senior [[sysop]]s have protected all pages for Presidential candidates, so that only sysops may edit them. We have done this for reasons of security. The Talk pages (like this one) remain unprotected--so that if you have a suggestion for extension of this or any article, use the corresponding Talk page.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]][[User talk:TerryH|Talk]] 20:21, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

We need to change the word "proponent" to something like "strongly against." In the part of the article were it talks about Joe Biden's position on gun control. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]
:Why would we need to do that?[[User Talk:Samwell|Samwell]] 21:23, 25 August 2007 (EDT)

Because it says "Biden is a strong proponent of 2nd-amendment rights. He was rated F by the National Rifle Association." "proponent" means that you support something. Joe Biden is against the right to bear arms. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]
:'''Opponent''' should work then. [[User Talk:Samwell|Samwell]] 21:36, 25 August 2007 (EDT)
::Thats a pretty big difference! Thanks for catching it, it has been corrected. [[User:Bohdan|Bohdan]] 00:29, 26 August 2007 (EDT)

== Jill Biden not a professor ==

I just changed the word "professor" to "instructor" for Jill Biden, based on this list from her campus: <blockquote>http://www.dtcc.edu/catalog/pdf/personnel.pdf </blockquote>. Who does she think she is, Barack Obama? In any case, someone should probably archive that .pdf document before it gets removed from the web site. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 13:48, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

== Is Biden REALLY an adjunct professor? ==

Not sure if he really is a [[professor]]. This may be just like Obama claiming to be a "professor." In any case, we should probably expand that section to clarify that the current title he uses, [[adjunct professor]], is little more than a "Monopoly money" title given to non-tenure track hired guns who don't even have to have valid academic credentials or degrees to teach a class. Most adjunct professors that I know, except in technical and scientific fields where they actually have to know something concrete, are pretty awful. Those in education, the social sciences, humanities, criminal justice, and social work are particularly bad. Those teaching math, computer science, biology, chemistry, etc. tend to be pretty good. You can't fake chemistry, but you can fake "social work" and those other fields. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 13:58, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

:I want to point out that most adjuncts are hired primarily to save money (they are cheaper than full-time faculty), rather than as good instructors. Some are good instructors, but the focus is, first and foremost, cheap labor. Nothing wrong with cheap labor, but it should be pointed out ESPECIALLY here. Yet another reason to be suspicious of Government funded education and educators. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 14:01, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

==Fun With Names==
Obama & Biden or is it Osama Bin Laden?-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 16:04, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

: That's funny. Thanks for the humor.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:24, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

::Are you kidding me..? It was juvenile and contrived at best. [[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 13:18, 24 August 2008 (EDT)

:::Juvenile? That takes an AMAZING amount of brain power to scramble letters like that. [[User:Rkstiner|Rkstiner]] 20:02, 15 September 2008 (EDT)

==Plagiarist==
He's a plagiarist because he plagiarised - inter alia - the speech of [[Neil Kinnock]] (re. his being the first Biden in X generations to attend university, etc etc). This is very well established (and documented on Conservapedia), and an equally well established blot on Biden's escutcheon. Why therefore are you deleting it? The man lied, full stop. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:35, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

: I agree with Bugler. I don't think there is any doubt about Biden's plagiarism.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:37, 23 August 2008 (EDT)

== Section Shuffle Suggestion ==

I would move the "Controversial comments" section down (or up, if there is major resistance). In its current place (between the Senate section and the Campaign sections), it looks very out of place. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 17:35, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

== wikipedia controversey? ==

i just wanted to point out that the section on Joseph Biden was never removed, just relocated http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joe_Biden&diff=233713896&oldid=233713863 is the edit where it was moved... i didn't want to try editing the main page because I'm a new user and i didn't feel it was my place, but it's clear to see that since Biden never ran in 2004 they wouldn't place information like that in a 2004 section, but a general section relating to information such as his suggestion for Kerry to take on McCain as a running mate. oh, also i didn't know where else to post this, that's why i entered it in his talk page. if it's in the wrong place please let me know and i can move it --[[User:Qprime|Qprime]]

:See [http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Wikiproject:News/Suggestions here] for discussion concerning the "controversy" (and its headline on the main page.) --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 17:56, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

I agree with Qprime, it doesn't make a lot of sense to have section for Joe Biden entitled "2004 Presidential Campaign" when he didn't have a 2004 Presidential campaign. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] 25 August 2008
:Sorry, but I have to side with Tom Blumer of NewsBusters. The section describes Biden's involvement in the general 2004 Presidential campaign and the fact that he definitely considered running (but changed his mind due to timing issues). He was notable enough for CNN to list him on the page I cited, so I think the section is justified. There is no reason to hide Biden's endorsement of McCain as Kerry's running mate at the end of the Senate section. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 18:49, 25 August 2008 (EDT)
::i'm just saying 'presidential campaign' implies his own campaign, on the wikipedia page they moved it to a 'general presidential campaign' section, i found it 5 seconds after i went there by looking with Ctrl-F it's not really hidden. now i'm as much against wiki bias as anyone else here, but in this situation it looks like more of a misunderstanding than anything else.--[[User:Qprime|Qprime]]

==Controversial?==
What is controversial about the comment regarding offshore drilling? Why is the word rape bolded? That is a completely appropriate use of the word as in "rape and pillage". [[User:ClarkeD|ClarkeD]] 21:01, 25 August 2008 (EDT)

==Grammar==
''(At Syracuse Law School, he had plagiarized a law review article in a class paper he wrote. Although he was permitted to retake the course after receiving an F.)'' The grammar of this sentence is incorrect. After reading the source, I changed it to: ''(He has admitted that in his first year at Syracuse Law School, he plagiarized a law review article; he was permitted to retake the course after receiving an F.)''<ref>http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE3DB143FF93BA2575AC0A961948260</ref> I don't mind if anyone wants to change the content, or come up with a better way to write the section, but please use proper grammar! --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 15:41, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
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==Archmere Tuition==
Why does the current tuition at Archmere, where Biden attended over 40 years ago, need to be anything more than a footnote to this article? Do we know that the tuition today is similar (given inflation) to the tuition when he attended? No, in fact one could argue that, like with most Catholic schools, the tuition today is significantly higher today because more classes are taught by lay teachers. Do we know that Biden (or his family) even paid full tuition? No, in fact many families in Wilmington attend private school with significant tuition assistance. Without knowing the facts, we don't know whether this is the story of a rich boy going to an expensive private school because his parents could well afford it, or a not-so-rich boy given an opportunity to go to an affordable private school because of financial aid. I have no idea which is the real story, or if it's something different. Until we find enough information to put Archmere's current tuition in some kind of context related to Biden's attendance, I think it needs to remain a footnote. The fact that it is a private, Catholic, college-preparatory school should say enough. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 15:58, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

:Noting the tuition as it currently exists shows the standard of that school for today and leaves it to the reader to determine what may have held true in the past. Generally speaking, most schools keep comparable standards over time. If there was a scholarship, his website would proudly provide that information would they not? Or have you noticed a tendency towards them being modest for Joe's accomplishments? Leaving the summer job part without also including current tuition levels could make it sound as if he paid for it himself, which would appear to be unlikely, although we do not state one way or the other. Giving more complete information, while not stating what occurred, can allow the reader to draw his own conclusions on how viable this may have been. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 16:53, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

::There are two kinds of scholarship, merit-based and need-based. Merit-based scholarships would be the kind that would be proudly advertised. Need-based scholarships are usually kept more confidential, so as not to embarrass the student or their family, and so that fellow students do not know who is receiving need-based aid and who is not. In addition, teen-aged high school students are not always aware of the details of their parents' financial arrangements with the school. I would be very surprised if anyone in public office would bother to list on their web site the details of need-based aid they received 40 years previously for high school. College-prep high schools often offer substantial need-based aid in an effort to have a more socio-economically diverse student body. We have no idea what Biden was charged for tuition 40 years ago.
::If you feel strongly that the tuition should be mentioned in the body of the article, do you feel we should also list the tuition of the University of Delaware, Syracuse University College of Law, and perhaps even Widener and Del Tech? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 22:16, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

:::Biden has been touting his blue collar roots for over 2 decades - the crux of his plagarized speech in 2008. A financial needs scholarship would be the perfect addition to his story. We are not going to assume a sudden ongoing bashfulness on his part in that area. Further education when one is an adult doesn't carry the same meaning as childhood dependence. Trying to equate costs for college as an ongoing part of that story, or to water down the aspect of parents paying for a private school for their son, would not be a beneficial contribution to the article. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:37, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:Furthermore, his "admitting" his plagarism ignores the fact he did so only after he was caught and had no other choice. One can not accidentally copy enmasse a work from another person and not have it be understood to be plagarism. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 16:56, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

:: As I said above, I have no opinion as to the ''content'' of the plagiarism sentences. But one of them isn't even a proper sentence, and the other is poorly written. If you don't like my version, that's OK with me; it was just an attempt to correct the grammar, not to change the content. But could you pretty please fix it to be grammatically correct? Thanks. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 22:16, 10 September 2008 (EDT)

==I want to put this in the article==
but don't know if I should or what section to put it in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmRXH7RkCZQ. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] September 22 2008
:It's a little... National Enquirey. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:51, 22 September 2008 (EDT)

==A conundrum...==
This page is enormously successful at 600,000+ hits, however it is in sore need of revision, restructuring, and updating. Because of its success, we shouldn't go about revising it piecemeal. Any suggestions how to re-structure it? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 12:05, 4 March 2019 (EST)

== Biden Grabass ==

From ''[https://www.bitchute.com/video/4Ce4jUEVD4Ex/ Louder with Crowder]''. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 06:58, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

:It turns out that Biden cut his son a sweetheart $1.5 billion deal with the Bank of China back in 2013, according to the ''[https://nypost.com/2019/05/11/the-troubling-reason-why-biden-is-so-soft-on-china/ New York Post].'' Pull quote: ''That Hunter Biden had no experience in China, and little in private equity, didn’t dissuade the Chinese government from giving his company a business opportunity in place of established global financial brands.'' Biden is not just corrupt, but a man willing to put our national security up for sale. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 01:34, 13 May 2019 (EDT)

== A confused man ==

A Biden interview on CNN may not have gone quite as planned. "Then when Cuomo shifted the topic to Russian election meddling in Europe and America, Biden bizarrely asserted that the Obama administration never let that happen. “You think that would happen on my watch, on Barack’s watch? You can’t answer that, but I promise you it wouldn’t have. And it didn’t,” he said."[https://nypost.com/2019/07/05/joe-biden-keeps-making-things-worse-for-himself/] Who was president in 2016? Somebody tell Biden quick. Why didn't Biden point out that Harris also opposes federally mandated busing? It's the obvious comeback. The interview went so badly that one of Biden's aides intervened to end it. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:56, 6 July 2019 (EDT)
:I hope he did an advance directive. Somebody should read it and pull the plug. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 23:24, 6 July 2019 (EDT)
::Here's is another "confused Biden" video: [https://twitter.com/i/status/1200972734869753858 He describes how his dark-skinned swimming-pool companions reacted to his blonde leg hair.] The sad part is that he told this story because he thinks it will help him with the black vote. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:32, 2 December 2019 (EST)

== Money laundering at Paradigm ==

From [https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/08/02/joe-biden-investigation-hunter-brother-hedge-fund-money-2020-campaign-227407 this article], it sure sounds like Biden used Paradigm Global Advisors to monetize his chairmanship of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. When the Bidens took over the firm, they told executives not to worry about fuddy duddy nonsense like return on investment. Paradigm's investors "want to invest in Joe Biden." If we go by reported net worth, Joe has little to show for his years of hucksterism. In 2009, his net worth was a mere $30,000. The dirty money is apparently funneled through his sons. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 23:38, 2 August 2019 (EDT)
:Put it in. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 00:41, 3 August 2019 (EDT)

== Hunter and MBNA ==

Hunter was cashing in on his dad's political clout even before Joe became vice president. While his father was in the U.S. Senate revising bankruptcy law, Hunter had a six figure do-nothing job at credit card company MBNA.[http://www.theamericanmirror.com/flashback-tom-brokaw-called-out-biden-corruption-in-2008/] Two years out of law school, he was executive vice president. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 08:11, 12 October 2019 (EDT)
:Why don't slap this into the [[Hunter Biden]] article and it can be developed from there. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]] 12:29, 12 October 2019 (EDT)

==Timestamp==
*Hillary Rodham Clinton‏‎ (664,268 views)
*Joseph Biden‏‎ (661,752 views)
*Obamagate timeline‏‎ (659,067 views) [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]] 22:03, 7 March 2020 (EST)

*Obamagate timeline‏‎ (676,269 views)
*Hillary Rodham Clinton‏‎ (668,885 views)
*Joseph Biden‏‎ (668,618 views)

:Biden still trails Hillary by 200 views, and can't seem to catch up for several weeks now. It'll be interesting to see at what point he finally catches her, cause that will mean people are finally pay attention to Biden and taking him seriously. This page probably needs a once-over cleanup to get ready for that time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]] 00:47, 16 April 2020‎

*Obamagate timeline‏‎ (678,810 views)
*Joseph Biden‏‎ (671,006 views)
*Hillary Rodham Clinton‏‎ (669,460 views)

:Biden's lept up 1,500 page views over Hillary in the last 4 days, the first time he's moved ahead of her since he announced his candidacy a year ago. Put another way, he's barely averaged 200 hits a day for the last six weeks, but is getting nearly 500 hits a day for the past five days. Time to refocus on the Biden page. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]] 05:53, 21 April 2020 (EDT)

== Osama Bin Laden's diabolical plan ==

It takes a truly fiendish mind to imagine something this evil: "[https://www.foxnews.com/politics/osama-bin-laden-wanted-to-kill-obama-so-biden-would-be-president-declassified-docs-show Usama bin Laden wanted to kill Obama so 'totally unprepared' Biden would be president, declassified docs show]." [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 02:28, 23 April 2020 (EDT)

==Resemblance to Erich Honecker==
For some reason I can't help but see the parrallels between Biden and Erich Honecker. [https://youtu.be/UtdhFe5hy5s] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 20:02, 19 January 2021 (EST)

== What to address Biden during his "presidency" ==

It's probably been resolved by now that Sleepy Joe will act as the president and be inaugurated at noon today. Although I think none of us here agree that he actually won or should have won, he still is going to be the man in the white house. This brings up the topic of how to describe him on the first line of the article. I suggest that we change the first line to "Joseph Robinette “Joe” Biden, Jr. (born November 20, 1942, see: [[Biden's age]]), is the illegitimate [[President of the United States]] and was the Vice President of the United States and served as [[President Barack Obama]]'s token [[segregation|segregationist]]." It may also be an option to not reference his presidency, because, after all, he was not legitimately elected. -[[User:MAdams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 10:56, 20 January 2021 (EST)
:Then that's exactly what we'll do. No matter what the Democrats, the liberal media and Big Tech claim, Biden is not and never will be the "president" (and never refer to him as such either, except to put "president" within quotation marks in reference to Biden - who, based on his advancing senility and his buffoonish behavior, is getting increasingly to be like a real-life version of ''The Simpsons'' character the Crazy Old Man).[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIm82CQdISQ] [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 11:14, 20 January 2021 (EST)
::It would probably be the best idea to lock this page for at least two days. Liberal vandals will be coming in hordes to vandalize anything about his "presidency".-[[User:MAdams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 12:44, 20 January 2021 (EST)
:::How about [[Junta leader]] or Dear Leader? Wuth the abounding censorship, Dear Leader seems very appropriate. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 16:10, 20 January 2021 (EST)

== Please review mission statement ==

Please see [[Conservapedia:Mission Statement]].--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 15:20, 20 January 2021 (EST)

== Infobox ==

Can some one edit the infobox (I tried but it didn't work) to note that he succeeded the legitimately elected President Donald Trump? --[[User:IScott|IScott]] ([[User talk:IScott|talk]]) 15:28, 20 January 2021 (EST)
:I don't know if it will work with the current infobox. We may need to make an Infobox officeholder/dictator for this case. -[[User:MAdams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 15:35, 20 January 2021 (EST)
::I fear that we are running into fundamental aspects of being a [[reliable]] information source. If we cannot get the current POTUS right, then why should anyone visit the web site? Think of the impact on Mr. Schlafly's [[reputation]] as a New Jersey licensed attorney!--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 15:52, 20 January 2021 (EST)
:::I can see merit to that. I'm sure nobody here (aside from the vandals and parodists) would want to cause harm to [[User:Aschlafly|Mr. Schlafly]]. This is his site, and I think we should let him have the final say as to what we display here. -[[User:MAdams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 16:05, 20 January 2021 (EST)
::::I defer to Mr. Schlafly to make a final decision.--[[User:IScott|IScott]] ([[User talk:IScott|talk]]) 16:01, 20 January 2021 (EST)
:::::Agreed. -[[User:MAdams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 16:05, 20 January 2021 (EST)

== The infobox photo ==

Is that photo ''really'' necessary?!? Biden is sort-of Mr. Schlafly's boss. Ya just gotta show the boss some respect no matter how much you hate his guts.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 16:03, 20 January 2021 (EST)
:As with above, I think we should defer to Mr. Schlafly on the decision. -[[User:MAdams|Mark Adams]][[User Talk:MAdams|(Discuss with me) ]] 16:08, 20 January 2021 (EST)

This article could do with a different photograph, and a less biassed account of Joe Biden. The article on [[Donald Trump]] is very pro-Donald Trump, but admits he has been subject to a lot of criticism. Perhaps the logo that appears in the top left-hand corner of [[Conservapedia]] should be reworded as "Conservapedia - the anti-Democrat Party and pro-Republican Party Encyclopedia". [[User:CARDAMOM|CARDAMOM]] ([[User talk:CARDAMOM|talk]]) 15:54, 4 March 2021 (EST)
:Okay, in unbiased, neutral terms, how should CP describe a racist, a crook, and a demented person as the Democrat party presidential nominee? Please give me one or two sentences of proposed language. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 16:03, 4 March 2021 (EST)

==Ron Klain==
Will [[Ron Klain]] be sanctioned, harassed, forced from his employment and possibly labeled a domestic terrorist for suggesting that elections are rigged? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 16:29, 20 January 2021 (EST)

==Transgenderism vs gender confusiuon==
For a parent trying to defend their child against transgender indoctrination and the danger of Joe Biden, labeling transgenderism as gender confusion in the Table of Contents does nothing for them. They will not read the content and simply pass over it, thinking there is no useful information for them in this article. It's a simple marketing principle, and has nothing to do with ideology. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 17:15, 13 March 2021 (EST)

==This says it all==
''Politico'': "[https://www.politico.com/newsletters/west-wing-playbook/2021/05/06/whitehouses-favorite-reporters-492757 @WhiteHouse's favorite reporters Presented by PhRMA].
What more do you need to know? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 19:30, 6 May 2021 (EDT)

== Biden rages to staff ==

I had pictured Biden as near comatose between public appearances. But now I wonder if they give him depressants so he doesn't do this in public: "[https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/05/14/report-biden-snapping-and-losing-it-in-profanity-laced-tirades-at-staff-n380650 Report: Biden Snapping and Losing It in Profanity Laced Tirades at Staff]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 03:32, 15 May 2021 (EDT)
:[[Tara Reade]] has said that in her interviews. That back in 1994 he was known to be short-tempered and rude to staff. All this inevitably would come out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 03:55, 15 May 2021 (EDT)
:Not to mention his walking around nude in front of female Secret Service agents. He has no respect for underlings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 03:56, 15 May 2021 (EDT)

== P ==

I like this article but perhaps the information could be moved arpund to aplear more clean?

Particularly the beginning intro

That info feels like it should be further down

User talk:Mikephshdj

2021-06-18T13:03:04Z

Mikephshdj: /* Welcome and a question */

==Welcome and a question==
Hi Mikephshdj, 
Were you the original author of the [[Turning point usa]] page you imported? Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:00, 3 May 2021 (EDT)

:Im new and not sure how to reply to messages. So help me out

:But I believe I added some things to it but I didn't write the entire thing originally. It was a combination of pulling from Wikipedia and infogalactic and then I added my own stuff {{unsigned|Mikephshdj}}

::No problem, thank you for replying! Both ways you did it work...posting on my talk page gives me a notification (just like me posting on your talk page notifies you), but as long as the other person is paying attention, replying to their post on your talk page should also work just fine.
::Also, it is helpful if you sign your comments using <code><nowiki>--~~~~</nowiki></code> (which can be inserted using the third button from the left in the upper editing toolbar, which looks like a pencil writing something). That way, we know who is saying what, so it doesn't get confusing.
::Anyway, In regard to the TP USA page, I hate to say this, but you are not supposed to post any text which you have not written yourself, except for short, well labeled quotations. I know writing an entire article can be labor intensive, but due to plagiarism concerns, anything you post which was not written by you will typically end up being deleted. Would you be able to rework the article so that all of its content is original? It's okay if it is shorter...it just needs to be original and meaningful content.

::Thank you! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:22, June 11, 2021 (EDT)

Yes i can try

As far as copyright i found this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyrights

Which states did everything on Wikipedia except for images and specifically labeled content is free use to be copied edited and reproduced

I'll still try to edit the turning point USA article but I just also wanted to dissuade your concerns about copyright

If you have any suggestions for the article it would be greatly appreciated

--[[User:Mikephshdj|Mikephshdj]] ([[User talk:Mikephshdj|talk]]) 09:03, June 18, 2021 (EDT)

User talk:DavidB4

2021-06-10T13:47:48Z

Mikephshdj:

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== Move request ==

Hallo. I need your help to move two pages as I made errors in their titles.

One of them is "Sarah Brown Liberal Democrat".
It has been suggested I change this to "Sarah Brown (UK Politician)" as most readers are American. I just need to figure out how to do this.

The second is "Jane Samantha Fae alias John Ozimek" which should read Jane Francesca Fae. I would be very grateful if you could please shift those for me. [[User:GraceDalrymple|GraceDalrymple]]

:Yes, I saw the discussion. I have moved those two pages, as requested. Moving pages is restricted to administrators and SysOps, so it is not your fault, as if you just can't figure out how to move pages...the wiki will not let you. No need to feel bad about it!
:I am happy to help, so just let me know if/when you need further assistance. It's no trouble! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:41, 27 September 2018 (EDT)

Would you please move [[Qanon]] to [[QAnon]]? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:37, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
:In addition to the above, would you please move [[:Category:Christian social reformers]] for capitalization. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:58, 4 November 2018 (EST)
::Both done --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:00, 6 November 2018 (EST)

Another move request: would you please fix the spelling error in this image title (the word "official" specifically)? [[:File:Enrique Peña Nieto oficial pic.jpg]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 1 December 2018 (EST)

:I think that actually may be deliberate (see: https://www.facebook.com/Enrique-Peña-Nieto-Oficial-1708563375863631). I don't mind moving it if you still think that is needed, but it is protected so someone will need to unlock it first. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:28, 1 December 2018 (EST)

::Good point -- it's probably Spanish. However, we are an English-language encyclopedia, so it might still be good to change it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:38, 3 December 2018 (EST)

:::My Spanish is very rusty, but that was my assumption. I'm fine with moving it though. Want me to ask Andy to unlock it? --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:30, 3 December 2018 (EST)

::::I would appreciate that. Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:10, 3 December 2018 (EST)

:::::Done! [[:File:Enrique Peña Nieto oficial pic.jpg]] --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:05, 4 December 2018 (EST)

::::::Would you please move this page to capitalize the "M": [[Javier milei]]? Also, please watch your email. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:03, 6 December 2018 (EST)

:::::::Moved. I just thinking about email... --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:05, 6 December 2018 (EST)

::::::::Would you please move [[Ilana mercer]] to [[Ilana Mercer]] and delete the new redirect? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:48, 11 December 2018 (EST)

Done. I have been sometimes leaving the redirects (for a while) so that new editors who don't know how to use RC can still find their pages. However, that may be unnecessary, and since I see you usually delete the redirect anyway, I will plan on just deleting the redirect in the future. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:29, 11 December 2018 (EST)
:Thanks! Regarding redirects, I guess it depends on the specific article. I'm fine deciding case-by-case, since redirects might be more necessary for some articles over others. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 11 December 2018 (EST)
::Hello DavidB4, would you please move [[Eastern Empires vs Western Empires]] to be an essay? I would rather delete it, but it just seems like a low-quality opinion article that could just be reformatted as such. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:13, 20 December 2018 (EST)

:::Done. I was tempted to delete it also, especially considering that it seems to have been made by a disposable account. However, I was waiting to see what others thought. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:02, 20 December 2018 (EST)

While I'm reluctant to rename my "Donald Trump achievements" articles so long after creation, it probably would be a good idea to move [[Donald Trump achievements: Immigration, illegal immigration, and border security]] to [[Donald Trump achievements: Immigration and border security]]. If you agree this is a good idea, would you please do it, and would you then delete the redirect and change every link where I (or someone else) has linked it? Then, I will begin doing the 2-3 article splits I told you about. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:35, 31 December 2018 (EST)

:I agree--that is a repetitive name, so a move makes sense. I have moved the page, and clean up most of the links to the old name. However, I have a little bit of a time crunch right now, so I'm going to need to leave one thing undone: [[Donald Trump]] needs to be unlocked so the link can be updated. I can ask for the unlock later, or you can if you get there first. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:02, 31 December 2018 (EST)

Would you please move the article [[Conservative Revolution]] to the "essay" namespace? I don't want to delete it outright, but the article isn't suitable as an encyclopedia article, considering the use of second person, lack of intro paragraph, and the fact it seems to be making an argument like an essay. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:44, 1 July 2019 (EDT)
:Also, please move the article [[Edward feser]] to capitalize the guy's last name. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:16, 5 July 2019 (EDT)
::Also, do you see any problem with these articles: [[Generation Identity]], [[European New Right]]? Either way, they need formatting work. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:56, 5 July 2019 (EDT)

:::I see no glaring issues, on the surface, although the formatting of [[Generation Identity]] suggests that it came from a Wiki. I didn't find any problems with a standard plagiarism check. It needs some cleanup though. [[European New Right]] looks incomplete and need expansion. No glaring issues though.
:::I've moved these pages. Sorry for the wait. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:21, 5 July 2019 (EDT)
::::Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:49, 6 July 2019 (EDT)
:::::Would you please move [[Wwe roster]] to capitalize "WWE"? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:12, 10 July 2019 (EDT)

::::::Good idea. I've moved it, but left the redirect for now, so the author doesn't "loose" the page. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:23, 10 July 2019 (EDT)

==Hi==
hi and thank you for move sugguestion to sting. [[User:Massaq25|Massaq25]] ([[User talk:Massaq25|talk]]) 18:23, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
:Hello, and you're welcome! Do you agree? I'm open to other suggestions, I just don't think that "sting" is a sufficiently descriptive title. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:27, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
::DavidB4, I would appreciate it if you would move the page now. No need for a move tag (nobody's going to comment there anyway). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 29 September 2018 (EDT)
:::Moved to [[Steve Borden]] with a redirect from "Sting (wrestler)" --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:09, 30 September 2018 (EDT)

== Quotes ==
Those quotes weren't my own, you should know that, they're from actual people. Also, if it's debatable, then please by all means...refute me. --[[User:Makuta Makaveli|Makuta Makaveli]] ([[User talk:Makuta Makaveli|talk]]) 02:48, 1 December 2018 (EST)
:I'm obviously not DavidB4, but I will still point out that a simple Google search shows it's very debatable: [https://health.usnews.com/health-news/health-wellness/articles/2014/07/07/is-abstinence-unhealthy 1],[http://www.nbcnews.com/id/36084314/ns/health-sexual_health/t/no-sex-may-be-no-fun-it-unhealthy/#.XAKfVmhKhPY 2],[https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/09/sex-celibacy-friendships-women 3],[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1077378/I-gave-sex-years-ago--best-thing-I-did.html 4] -- the info you added was undue weight, considering the overall size of the article, and it falsely implied that abstinence is a bad thing for your health. It appears that it is only when you really want to have sex and you don't. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:58, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::Yes, it was a very one-sided argument, which is factually questionable. Without getting unnecessarily descriptive, the body does have ways of dealing with some of the stated issues. Research is sketchy if even existent on several of the things you mentioned. Additionally, the first paragraph was written as your own, mot a quote, even though is was a direct copy-and-paste from another source. (That is by definition plagiarism--taking credit for someone else's work.) --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:03, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::: ''So what are the health benefits of sex, besides relieving stress and helping you fall asleep? Studies have shown that regular sex has a protective effect on the heart, lowering the risk of heart attack in men. For both men and women, “It increases blood flow to the genitals and probably helps the immune system,” Herbenick says. “All things being equal, it’s also fun when things are going well [in your relationship.]”
''So abstaining – especially long-term – can carry some physical consequences. In women, it can cause the atrophying of underused vaginal or hip muscles, Lindau says. Vaginismus is a common condition characterized by hypersensitivity of the muscles around the opening of the vagina, she adds. Those muscles – along with the pelvic floor muscles – are important for controlling penetration, and they need to be in a relaxed state during sexual intercourse. If they are hyper-contracted – not necessarily from abstinence itself, but accumulated fear or anticipation of the first sexual experience – sex can be very painful. “They say it feels like he’s hit a wall,” Lindausays, adding that vaginismus can be treated.''

I said refute me, but instead you give me extra arguments. Thank you so much. --[[User:Makuta Makaveli|Makuta Makaveli]] ([[User talk:Makuta Makaveli|talk]]) 14:20, 1 December 2018 (EST)
:Neither of us are arguing that sex is bad or harmful -- all of the articles I cited said that sex can be good, but abstinence can also be good. You're committing a fallacy by assuming that just because sex is good means that abstinence is bad.
:Unless you get STDs or anything like that from sex, it is just as good as abstinence. The articles made it clear that abstinence does not have harmful side-effects. You need to read the cited articles better. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::: I guess the only real way to settle this is to get actual data from the field. [[User:Makuta Makaveli|Makuta Makaveli]] ([[User talk:Makuta Makaveli|talk]]) 15:18, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::::Makuta, are you pushing sex outside of marriage between husband and wife in this website? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 15:37, 1 December 2018 (EST)
:::::No, I'm pushing for knowledge of the dangers of lifelong abstinence. But even if I was, then there's nothing you can do about it so why are you asking? --[[User:Makuta Makaveli|Makuta Makaveli]] ([[User talk:Makuta Makaveli|talk]]) 20:22, 1 December 2018 (EST)
::::::"''dangers of lifelong abstinence''" -- That's ridiculous, and choosing not to have sex (especially outside of heterosexual marriage) is normal, and sex outside of marriage can actually be dangerous (if there are STDs involved). Many people have been abstinent and turned out just fine. You're distorting the facts to make it seem like it's a necessity to have sex in order to be healthy, and if you don't there's a medical problem, when in reality neither option is inherently harmful.
::::::"''But even if I was, then there's nothing you can do about it''" If I'm understanding you correctly, as admins, we can do something about it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:44, 1 December 2018 (EST)

:::::::"''If I'm understanding you correctly, as admins, we can do something about it.''"

:::::::Haha! '''Can'''... --[[User:Makuta Makaveli|Makuta Makaveli]] ([[User talk:Makuta Makaveli|talk]]) 21:34, 1 December 2018 (EST)

::::::::Want me to turn it into a "'''Will'''"? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:54, 1 December 2018 (EST)

:::::::::Action without cause. To pardon is true power but you have nothing to pardon, I'm giving you no trouble. --[[User:Makuta Makaveli|Makuta Makaveli]] ([[User talk:Makuta Makaveli|talk]]) 22:01, 1 December 2018 (EST)

Makuta Makaveli either has an agenda, or gets his/her information from people who have an agenda to promote casual sex by making abstinence look like a "health hazard." The Atheist YouTuber "MrRepzion" also claimed that one needed to have "trial sex" to see if the two are "sexually compatible." It would help CP if the articles had information debunking these claims [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 12:08, 2 December 2018 (EST)

:Most people argue that there is "no harm" in casual sex--that has become a common claim (although some say is is risky due to STDs). Because of this, there are plentiful materials arguing that claim. However, it is much harder to find support for this claim that is is actually unhealthy to abstain by choice. I've seen a few unscientific blog posts, etc. about it, but nothing verifiable. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist (there is always someone willing to write a paper on some fringe belief which people want to hear--just look at chocolate, for example, where they like to disregard the health costs of sugar and just look at the pure chocolate, which by the way tastes pretty bad on its own) but I'm not finding proof.
:Shobson20, the "try it before you buy it" idea is certainly nothing new in personal relationships. I suspect you are correct in linking these two, as people who would like to engage in this practice would like to have something like this to point to as a defense for their actions. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:54, 3 December 2018 (EST)

== Why did I get blocked by "Minuteman?" ==

I was fixing the damage that "My password is green" was doing. I sometimes notice vandals before CP's admins do, and sometimes I try to help. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 19:23, 15 December 2018 (EST)

:I replied to your email. You did nothing wrong. Thank you for your vigilance, and I apologize for this! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:30, 15 December 2018 (EST)

::What are the qualifications for becoming a sysop on this site? I would like to be able to help by stopping the trolls and vandals who frequently attack this site. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 19:38, 15 December 2018 (EST)

:::As best I can tell, there is no official criteria. However, this page might be useful to answer some basic questions: [[Conservapedia:User_rights]]. Typically, SysOp rights are given to users who have been editing for some time, and proven themselves trustworthy. I don't think there is a specific checklist that you can do, to get these rights. However, the one responsible for promotions is [[User:Aschlafly]], so you might be able to get a better idea from him as to what he specifically looks for. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:59, 15 December 2018 (EST)

I too have just been blocked by {{user|Minuteman}}. I copied over the WP article for [[anarcho-conservatism]], which the WP zealots are about to delete. The text there is mine, though most of the article is still in quotes from references, as more text is needed (hence why I brought it here). — [[User:WisdomTooth3|WisdomTooth3]] ([[User talk:WisdomTooth3|talk]]) 00:17, 1 January 2019 (EST)

:You were blocked for one hour so we could review what you were doing, because you were importing a page from WP which looked a bit like plagiarism. Since it is your own writing, then you may recreate that page, but it could use some improvements. Namely, the quotes themselves can use work, as they do not provide context. If you intend to make further improvements to the page, then we welcome our efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:29, 1 January 2019 (EST)
::Per [[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]]'s suggestion, recreated it [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:WisdomTooth3/Sandbox/Anarcho-conservatism here]. Not sure when I'll be able to improve it. Please feel free to chip in. — [[User:WisdomTooth3|WisdomTooth3]] ([[User talk:WisdomTooth3|talk]]) 03:20, 2 January 2019 (EST)

:::Thank you! I am not a subject matter expert on that topic, so I don't know how much help I can be, but I will look it over later. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:32, 2 January 2019 (EST)
::::By the way, it is probably not helpful for the article to link to itself. Unless they point to a specific part of the page, they should probably be removed. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:42, 2 January 2019 (EST)

== Merge proposal ==

What do you think about this merge request: [[Talk:Carbon cycle (astronomy)]]? I am inclined to support it, but it's probably a good idea to get more than one opinion on it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:32, 29 December 2018 (EST)

:I've never really studies that specific topic, but the proposal sounds fine to me. I looked up "carbon cycle" and found a great deal of information, but on the wrong topic. From my limited understanding, a merge sounds like a good idea. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:30, 29 December 2018 (EST)
== tag at bottom of pages "quotation templates" ==

Many of the content pages I create use quotes of other web content. At the bottom of the articles I created using quotes, there is a tag at the bottom of the pages indicating "quotation templates". This is a new and unwanted development.

For example, please look at the bottom of this web page: [[Atheism and mental illness]].

Can we get the "quotation templates" tag to not be there. Before they never used to be there. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:37, 29 December 2018 (EST)

:I made a small mistake, but cannot fix it until [[:template:cquote]] is unlocked again. I'm sorry about that--I should have noticed sooner. Someone needs to add the "noinclude" tags to the category link. If someone unlocks the page, I will fix the issue. Again, sorry about that! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:23, 29 December 2018 (EST)
::I unlocked the page.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:25, 29 December 2018 (EST)

:::Thanks, I believe I fixed it. You can lock it again. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:36, 29 December 2018 (EST)
::::Thanks for fixing the issue. I appreciate it.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:37, 29 December 2018 (EST)

:::::Any time! Thanks for pointing it out! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:46, 29 December 2018 (EST)

== Request ==

Would you please check [[Alejandro Garcia Padilla]] for originality? It could be, but many of the refs are formatted like on Wikipedia. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:34, 30 December 2018 (EST)

:Of course! It definitely originated from WP. Slightly edited, but still copied. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alejandro_García_Padilla --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:12, 30 December 2018 (EST)

::You beat me to it. Obvious copy from WP, with slight alterations. You don't need to check reference format; just check the text. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 20:19, 30 December 2018 (EST)

:::Would you please delete all the portions that are copied? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:42, 30 December 2018 (EST)

::::I'll take another look, but I think the whole thing needs to go. Also, this is not the first time. See: [[User_talk:HectorCruz66#Originality]] --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:45, 30 December 2018 (EST)
:::::Oh, and I didn't mean to ignore you, Sam. Thanks for checking also! You're right--just looking at the pages shows all you need to know. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:54, 30 December 2018 (EST)
::::::Deleting it, then, is the best option. Would you please do that? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:22, 30 December 2018 (EST)

:::::::Sure. I'm still looking at it, but sure, I'll delete it unless I find a reason not to. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:37, 30 December 2018 (EST)

Would you please check the page [[James Ritchey]] to see if there's anything problematic (in general, not just originality, since it's two sentences long)? If there's nothing, I guess we can keep it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:45, 17 January 2019 (EST)

:Well, he exists. It seems he's a small-time actor who has been in a few movies I've never heard of, and is barely active on YouTube. This does seem to be relatively original text...all two sentences of it.
:So on to the negative, I firstly find the wording "internet celebrity" rather questionable. I don't see anything suggesting that title. I could be missing something, but from what I'm seeing, he looks more like a wannabe celebrity. Each of his youtube videos has between 1K and 7K views. Assuming those views were not farmed, that still seems a ways away from the numbers a celebrity would have. He second most viewed video seems to be review of a water bottle....I didn't watch it to find out if it is sponsored.
:I suspect he is trying to make a name for himself, which slots this "article" into a suspicious category anyway.
:Bottom line, there is nothing blatantly wrong, but I see why you were questioning it. This smells fishy. I'd be included to nuke it for a lack of notability, but I'm okay with keeping it. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:31, 17 January 2019 (EST)

::Oh, and a couple search engines (at least Yahoo and Yandex [and therefore DuckDuckGo]) have already crawled this page, and added it to the first page of results from searching his name. I used a clean OS and browser, so no user history bias there. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:44, 17 January 2019 (EST)

:::If you think that page is an advertisement (which is very likely), then I am perfectly fine deleting it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 17 January 2019 (EST)

::::Ok, I think I'll delete it then. Too many suspicious factors. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:44, 17 January 2019 (EST)

Assuming we should keep this essay (I shouldn't jump to conclusions), it should be moved so we have a colon: [[Essay History of racism and the Democrats]]. Unrelated, there's no mention of how Reconstruction Democrats passed gun control laws to prevent black people from engaging in self-defense. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:48, 18 January 2019 (EST)

:I hadn't gotten the chance to review it yet. I'm moved the page, but I think it might be helpful to keep the redirect for the moment. This seems like a reasonably good essay, so I'm find with keeping it. I will send you an email shortly. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:29, 19 January 2019 (EST)

Hello DavidB4, I am wondering if any of these images would be acceptable for me to upload (regarding licensing): [https://twitter.com/VP/status/1085692630246350848][https://twitter.com/scavino45/status/1010232867501363200][https://twitter.com/vp/status/1010293228619419648] Also, I am wondering if you know of any free images of the Trump Administration deployment of troops along the border with Mexico late last year? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:18, 20 January 2019 (EST)

:Hi, Twitter is always a little iffy, but these are probably okay. Firstly, images made by an employee of the U.S. government as a part of their duties are automatically in the Public Domain. Secondly, a number of other users here republish twitter images under "Fair use." The first one is ideal, so if this is the case as it looks, use one or more of them for this reason.
:I do not know of any images of troops at the border, and couldn't find any good ones after a quick check. I will look a little more later. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:06, 20 January 2019 (EST)
::Thanks! Would you please look over this image to make sure there aren't any problems? [[:File:Donald Trump Angel Families.jpg]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:46, 21 January 2019 (EST)

:::Any time! I do find it a little questionable that Pence took that photo. However, if it was one of his aids, it is still PD. However, if it was taken by the press, it is probably not. I don't know if there is a way to find out who actually took it, since this is a Twitter post. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:05, 21 January 2019 (EST)

::::I don't know where to find who took the picture. I'm assuming it's his office, since I don't see why his office would rely on the media for such a picture.

::::Also, I don't know where else to find a picture of this specific event. I checked the White House's Flickr page, among other pages, but couldn't find anything. If you are able to find a better image, I would appreciate it (you don't have to, though). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 21 January 2019 (EST)

:::::I'm not having much luck either. Let's just go with what you have. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:50, 21 January 2019 (EST)

::::::OK. I wish it were easier to find a free picture of this event, but oh well. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:01, 21 January 2019 (EST)

:::::::Considering all of the cameras in that room, it does seem surprising. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:05, 21 January 2019 (EST)
:::::::Oh, second person to the left of Trump is Pence, so he definitely was not holding the camera :) --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:08, 21 January 2019 (EST)

Hello DavidB4, would you please check the newly-created article [[Athanasio Celia]] for originality, and to make quality improvements if you have the time? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:10, 9 February 2019 (EST)

:Hello, it looks like this is a (perhaps slightly revised) copy of an old version of the WP page on the subject. I did not dig through WP, but I'm seeing matches to here: [https://www.amazon.com/Athanasio-Celia/e/B07BG9GB3J%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share] which is an Amazon page quoting WP, and here: [https://en.everybodywiki.com/Athanasio_Celia] which is probably plagiarism as well. This was not a complete match anywhere my tools saw--more like a 30% match or so. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:40, 9 February 2019 (EST)
::Do you think it should be deleted? Either way, the page has formatting/copyedit issues. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:41, 9 February 2019 (EST)

:::It looks like WP deleted it, but "everybodywiki.com" saved a copy. It looks like we should delete it unless we can verify that the original author was the one to post it here. It is worth finding that out first, as it is not uncommon for us to get rescued paged from WP editors. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:49, 9 February 2019 (EST)
::::While we're waiting for the above page to get sorted out, would you please move the page [[Indian struggle]] to [[The Indian Struggle]]? Also, there should probably be a [[Indian Struggle]] page. This whole thing is a mess right now. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:36, 11 February 2019 (EST)
::::Also, if you would take a look at this page, I would appreciate it: [[Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:38, 11 February 2019 (EST)

:::::I am very busy right now, but have moved that page as requested. I will deal with the other issues soon. If I don't do so within a week, feel free to remind me. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:38, 11 February 2019 (EST)

::::::Oh dear....Okay, some of that page might be original, but at least some parts, including the fact list are definitely not original. That list is all over the internet. This page: [https://www.libertynation.com/ocasio-cortez-and-the-nazi-connection/] is one possible place this may have come from, but if you take a look at a web search of the any one "fact," you will see that that it is all over the place. It's going to be hard to nail down where it actually came from. In any case, we should challenge it. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:05, 12 February 2019 (EST)

== Page improvement ==

Hello DavidB4, it might be worth taking a look at and moving this article: [[Template:Examples of Liberal Bias]]

I think it should probably be moved to a mainspace article or at least have its formatting improved. For example, the template is transcluded in the [[Liberal bias]] article, and if you look at the table of contents, starting at the first "See also" section and below, the template transclusion messes things up. Of course, whether we move this article to mainspace or simply do some formatting fixes, it's going to take some work to get this done. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:44, 28 January 2019 (EST)

:I see what you mean; it is as if someone wanted this to both be a template and a standalone page. It must be one or the other. If it was unlocked, I think I could fix it to work properly as a template, but it would not be a good standalone page. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:50, 29 January 2019 (EST)
::It looks better to me. What do you think...Have I missed any issues? --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:27, 29 January 2019 (EST)
:::Looks good to me! The only issue is the double space below the template, as you can see at the [[Liberal bias]] article -- this isn't a big deal, though. It seems to me that the "See also" link on the template is kind of useless (unless someone directly accesses the template, and considering the [[Examples of Liberal Bias]] redirect, that might happen). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:56, 29 January 2019 (EST)
::::Good point, I'd missed that spacing issue, but I think I've fixed it now. That see also link is not included when the page is transcluded, but only shows on the template page itself. I figured that was a reasonable compromise. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:36, 29 January 2019 (EST)
:::::I think it is a reasonable compromise -- thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 29 January 2019 (EST)

== Article move request ==

It might be worth considering moving [[Jane Samantha Fae]] to [[Jane Francesca Fae alias John Ozimek]] -- that's what User:GraceDalrymple did, but how she did it was very poor, simply blanking one page and creating the other one, and she didn't make the first page a proper redirect. For the record, this page appears to be of someone born a male and who now identifies as a woman, so the current female name title may not be appropriate. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:00, 2 March 2019 (EST)
:I'm willing to make the move, but this name makes it sound like "John Ozimek" is the alias, while "Jane Francesca Fae" is the real name. Jane should be first in such a page name, though, since that's probably what someone is going to search for. If I was making the page, I would probably just call it "Jane Francesca" or else put something parenthetical afterwards, like "Jane Francesca Fae (John Ozimek)". If you think "Jane Francesca Fae alias John Ozimek" is best, though, I'll do it. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:40, 2 March 2019 (EST)
::I'm thinking it should simply be moved to his real name, John Ozimek, just like the [[Bradley Manning]] and [[Bruce Jenner]] articles were done. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:16, 2 March 2019 (EST)
:::Tempting, as we all know that's he still is. However, his legal name is now "Jane," so I'm not sure if we should leave that out altogether. We could. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:58, 3 March 2019 (EST)

::::How about this: [[John Ozimek (Jane Samantha Fae)]]? --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:48, 3 March 2019 (EST)

Would you please take a look here: [[Talk:Newfoundland]]? This article might have to be moved. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:55, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

:Confirmed, that's the name now, so I moved it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:13, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

== Great work! ==

Great work in adding those references to [[benefits of capitalism]]!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 13:30, 28 March 2019 (EDT)
:Thanks! It could use some more work, but it's progress. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:40, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

== [[World History Study Guide from 1648]] ==

This article contains a wrong info. "(1923) created the modern state of Turkey, with a combination of military rule and an elected Parliament; also converted the Arabic language to a modern, Latin-style alphabet". Mustafa Kemal Atatürk was a Turk and he converted the Turkish language to Latin-style alphabet. Please correct it. Thank you. - [[User:Andrewlee|Andrewlee]] ([[User talk:Andrewlee|talk]]) 15:45, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

:I know very little about that page or the history it speaks of, but that page is locked from editing by anyone other than full administrators, so I cannot make this change in any case. You could try asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]] for assistance with this. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:29, 10 April 2019 (EDT)
==Image upload requests==
I requested to upload several images for an essay I am writing and have gotten no reply. Can you please help me? --[[User:ProudGator|ProudGator]] ([[User talk:ProudGator|talk]]) 09:30, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

:Hi, I noticed your request, and I will get to it. Typically, requests are taken in the order they are received, and we have a substantial backlog of request right now. I will do these two soon, but in the future, I will take them in order to be fair to the others making upload requests. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:55, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

::I've uploaded three of them. However, the last one you requested is owned by National Geographic, which specifically states that we cannot republish their content. (See [[CP:IUR]] for more information.) --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:27, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

== Image upload ==

If yo could upload one of the images I linked to on Andrew Schlafly's talkpage that'd be great! [[User:JohnSelway|JohnSelway]] ([[User talk:JohnSelway|talk]]) 17:56, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
:Sure: [[:File:Jacinda Ardern, 2018.jpeg]]
:If you need any more done, feel free to add the request to the bottom of [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:00, 18 April 2019 (EDT)

== Look at this edit ==

Please look at this edit: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia&diff=1519161&oldid=1516763 DavidB4 and Conservapedia]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:39, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

:Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:37, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

==Bay of Pigs switch==
Should the page [[Bay of Pigs]] actually be [[Bay of Pigs invasion]]? One is a place, the other is a historical event. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:56, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

:Yes, this should be clarified--thanks for pointing it out! This is a large page with many contributors, so I've put the move template on it as a prior announcement. If no one objects or makes other suggestions, I will move it soon. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:24, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

::Sounds good to me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

== Editing question ==

Hi DavidB4 and the others!

I just created an account a few days ago and have been doing some adding of pages and editing. Unfortunately, I think I might have gotten a little carried away and did some editing to a page that wasn't mine (Romulus Augustulus, the last Roman emperor) without taking time to check up on editing etiquette. So that I know for future reference, is it generally expected that you shouldn't do significant editing without talking to the original author first?

My apologies to the author; I hope you'll forgive it as just a case of over-enthusiasm.

-Teakin88

:Hi Teakin88, Welcome to Conservapedia! 
:I see nothing unfortunate about some initiative to improve an article--good work! If you are going to make a major point-of-view change, or do something potentially controversial, it would probably be a good idea to first ask on the respective article talk page. If no one objects, then go for it. For general, non-controversial expansions like this, there shouldn't typically be any need to ask. It should also be noted that no one really "owns" articles. There are some articles in which a single editor has made a significant investment (1990'sguy and the [[Donald Trump achievements]] articles come to mind). In those cases, would probably be the courteous thing to do to ask before removing, changing, or contradicting preexisting content. Also, if you plan to change the perspective of an article (i.e., changing the Donald Trump article to say he's a traitor, lair, and jerk) you should probably ask first. However, in most cases, you can just go ahead and make improvements where you see the need. If someone disagrees with an edit you made, they will probably revert that edit and let you know. In that case, respect the senior editor, talk to them, and come to some agreement. I hope this clarifies the matter. If in doubt, it never hurts to ask. Contrary to popular belief, it's often better to ask for permission than forgiveness. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:58, 8 May 2019 (EDT)

::One extra thing -- even for non-controversial changes, I strongly recommend always citing reliable sources. This is helpful as they increase CP's reputability, and they are helpful for readers who want to research a certain topic further in-depth. Thanks for your edits, Teakin88. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:17, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

:::A very good point--yes, please include references. If you used any sources, even just for a basic understanding of the subject, they should always be cited. If you do not have any, I still suggest you do a little research, and find a good source which supports what you are writing. Common knowledge does not need to be cited (i.e. "red is a color") but when you are making an assertion which some reads may not have already known, try to cite it. It shouldn't be particularly difficult, just list the source, such as a URL, and perhaps the date you retrieved it. You are welcome to use any formal citation style, but you are not required or expected to do so. Most editors just paste the link inside of <code><nowiki><ref> </ref></nowiki></code> tags after the statement being referenced. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:10, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

==Historical revisionism and revisionism==
These two pages [[Revisionism]] and [[Historical revisionism]] are basically the same topic and ought to be merged under the banner of the second. I'll start expanding the revisionism page into general themes afterward. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:32, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

:That sounds good to me. I'll be a bit busy for the next 4-5 days, but I will merge these when I get the chance. If you want, feel free to move over the valuable content from [[Revisionism]] yourself, and make is page a redirect. Otherwise, I'll do it when I can. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:16, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

::Done: [[Historical revisionism]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:33, 14 May 2019 (EDT)

== Email is bouncing ==

I sent a message to your email, and it bounced. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 12:41, 14 May 2019 (EDT)

:That's odd! I checked over things on my end, and everything seems to look right. Are you attempting the address listed on my user page? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:51, 14 May 2019 (EDT)
:I was able to send a test message there successfully. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:38, 14 May 2019 (EDT)
::I used the address on your user page, and I get a message from "Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@googlemail.com>" that says "Message not delivered
There was a problem delivering your message to davidb4-cp@archnet.us. See the technical details below, or try resending in a few minutes.

The response from the remote server was:
550 Mail to davidb4-cp@archnet.us has been suspended" [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 16:58, 16 May 2019 (EDT)

:::Oh, that's my old address. It now bounces emails due to spam. Sorry for the trouble! I changed that public address last December. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:07, 16 May 2019 (EDT)

== Thank you! ==

Thank you for recreating [[User:Ahmed Samoa|my user page]]! [[User:Ahmed Samoa|Ahmed Samoa]] ([[User talk:Ahmed Samoa|talk]])

== A communist troll ==

A Communist troll who first used the Username "MarxistLeninist" is repeatedly making sock accounts and just won't get the message and go away. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 22:54, 14 July 2019 (EDT)

:Thanks for the tip. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:37, 15 July 2019 (EDT)

== Mormons are Christian. ==

Hi, I was reading the page about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. I am LDS (Mormon) and this article contains false things about the Church. It quotes Dr. James White, a Christian pastor, who is NOT MORMON and has written many anti-Mormon articles. White does not understand what the Church is about and he claims Mormons are not Christian. We are Christian! People like White and others from mainstream Christian churches misunderstand the doctrines of the LDS Church! I am a convert to the LDS church and there are SO many misconceptions about the Church, things taken out of context and distorted. It's disappointing that a site like this would perpetuate these false accusations. I would like to be able to edit the article if I could, since I am an actual Mormon. I don't know how to go about doing that.

Thank you,

Cindy

:It's understandable that you want to support your church, but why are you trying to isolate Dr. White? You've reduced his contributions to virtually nothing. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Monday, 13:04, 22 July 2019 (EDT)

::Thanks for reaching out! I am not personally an expert on Mormonism, so I might not be the right person to ask. However, I will be blunt with you: it seems that Mormonism is classified by many as cult for good reason. For example:
::*The Bible says that there is only one God (for example, see: Isaiah 43:10; 44:6; 45:5). Mormonism, however, says that:
::**there are many gods (Mormon Doctrine, p. 163)
::**There is a mother goddess (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443)
::*The Bible teaches that God is an eternal, infinite being, who created man in His (spiritual) image, but was never himself a man. Mormonism teaches that:
::**God used to be a man on another planet, (Mormon Doctrine, p. 321; Joseph Smith, Times and Seasons, vol. 5, p. 613-614; Orson Pratt, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2, p. 345; Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 7, p. 333).
::**"The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man’s..." (Doctrines and Covenants 130:22)
::**God is in the form of a man, (Joseph Smith, Journal of Discourses, vol. 6, p. 3).
::**"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
::Furthermore, it teaches that after you become a good Mormon, you have the potential of becoming a god (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345-347, 354), which is outright blasphemy. This sounds like what is written in Genesis 3:5: "For God knows that when you eat from [the tree] your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil," which was spoken by Satan.

::Mormonism is based on Christianity, but so is Islam. Adding new things to Christianity and abrogate parts of scripture is pretty much what cults specialize in. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:17, 22 July 2019 (EDT)

== Article move requests ==

Should the article [[The mossadil]] be kept? If so, please move it to [[The MossadIL]]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:49, 7 August 2019 (EDT)
:Initially, this sounded rather like something not notable enough to have an article. However, the account has over 115,000 followers at present. That sounds like a high number, although of course followers can be farmed. Honestly, I pay very little attention to Twitter...do you think that compared to the rest of Twitter, this is notable enough to keep? I find it a little odd having a page about a twitter account, but I'm okay with keeping it. If we do, though, I wonder if a more descriptive name might be better. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:21, 8 August 2019 (EDT)
::115,000 followers doesn't seem that high to me. Trump has over 62 million followers, John Bolton is nearing 700,000, and Matteo Salvini and Nigel Farage of Europe both have over 1 million (see [[Essay:Top conservatives on Twitter]]). If the article is notable otherwise, that's fine, but I don't think the number of followers makes it notable. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 05:41, 9 August 2019 (EDT)

:::Ok, then I say delete it. It might be a good twitter account, but I don't see anything else that makes it notable. There is also a web store behind this account, so there is some monetary motivation for promotion. The account that wrote this CP article is probably not a single-use promo account, but rather probably a good-faith editor. However, I don't think this qualifies as something worth publishing a page about. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:38, 9 August 2019 (EDT)

::::Thanks for deleting.

::::Also, would you please move the newly-created [[Emu war]] article (created, I think, by the same user) to capitalize the "w"? Also, this article needs a massive amount of improvement, and I don't have time at the moment to do so. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:56, 9 August 2019 (EDT)

:::::Good suggestion. As I guess you already noticed, I expanded it somewhat and moved it per your request. There is a great deal more which could be written about this topic, but at least the basics are there for now. Also, I think I will go ahead and make the History category you tried to use. That seems like one which could be useful. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:43, 12 August 2019 (EDT)

== Help:I've been blocked by Minuteman for creating Fredogate page ==
Can someone please help so I can improve the page I started? I've been blocked by Minuteman for creating Fredogate page. No explanation was given and I find his censoring very frustrating since this incident some media personalities call Fredogate, is widely covered in youtube.--[[User:Bearbrau|Bearbrau]] ([[User talk:Bearbrau|talk]]) 19:15, 14 August 2019 (EDT)
:My apologies for that--you did nothing wrong. You were automatically blocked for a 2-hour duration so that we could review your activity—it was nothing personal. Conservapedia gets its fair share of vandalism and internet trolls, so we need to be careful. I noticed this issues and unblocked you seven minutes later, but not before it was an inconvenience. (You were only able to post on our talk pages because you were unblocked.) You may continue where you left off, and should have no further trouble of this sort. If you have any specific questions or concerns, fell free to contact me by email. However, you should be all set to proceed, and this will not be counted against you. Again, Sorry about that! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:26, 14 August 2019 (EDT)

== Two questions/requests ==

Hello DavidB4, would you please take a look at the article [[Mainstream conservative]]? I don't know if this page is to be kept, but it would need significant reworking as it seems rather opinionated. Maybe it should be moved to the "essay" namespace?

Also, would you please keep an eye on the draft [[User:RobSteff/Slovakia]]? It seems like the editor wants to redo CP's [[Slovakia]] page, but some of the intro wording [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Slovakia&oldid=910323397 mirrors the WP article] way too closely. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

:Hi 1990'sguy!
:I rarely see [[Mainstream conservative]], [[movement conservative]], populist conservatives, etc. well defined in comparison to other types of conservatives. If the content here is accurate (I have not verified it, but have no specific reason to doubt it), I think there could be some value in keeping this. As you say, though it will of course need at the very least to be wikified, and should really have some references. It could be considered a subjective explanation and thus an essay, but I think this could be done as a standard article. We do also have an article for [[Movement conservative]]s already, so this might fit in where it is, given a little more work. Do you disagree, though?

:I will also try to keep an eye on the Slovakia article...good idea. It seems promising that this users replied to your comment about copyright/copy-and-paste. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:38, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

::Also, I will note that I'm not sure if Mainstream conservative should focus quite so much on Trump support/opposition. Trump certainly is getting people to show their true colors, but this seems better suited as a separate example, rather than the main point of discussion. Trump will, either in 2020 or 2024, leave office, but chances are, the concept of mainstream conservatives will continue, so I would prefer to see our article on this being more about principles than support/opposition of one person in 2016-2020. I'll post this on that article's talk page as well. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:53, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

==Move request==
Can we move this [[Essay:Rich Man and Parable of Talents]] to [[Parable of the Talents]]? For the most part (with some minor editing) this could be an actual useful article instead of yet another editorial. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 19 August 2019 (EDT)
:I'm generally happy to help move things, but as this is Andy's Essay, I wonder if perhaps he should be asked first. Generally, essay space offers special allowances and exceptions which mainspace does not. At present, this piece reads more like an essay than an encyclopedia article, so it would need a little editing if it was moved. If he is fine with this, then sure...I would be happy to move it. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:48, 19 August 2019 (EDT)

In the meantime (and not to distract from the above), would you please move [[:Category:British royal family]] to capitalize the last two words? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:01, 19 August 2019 (EDT)
:1990'sguy: Good suggestion--I've moved it as you asked. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:38, 19 August 2019 (EDT)
::Thanks! Would you please also look at the move request at [[Talk:Kosice]]? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:22, 24 August 2019 (EDT)

:::Thanks for pointing that out! I used to be able to monitor all activity on CP, but my availability has decreased such that I can only check retroactively for highlights now. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:14, 24 August 2019 (EDT)

== Article assessment ==

Hello DavidB4, would you please take a look at the newly-created article [[Cruz Derangement Syndrome]]? Is it notable enough to keep, and if so, would it need any other improvements? Also, while I generally like Cruz (with certain exceptions such as trade and his support for a liberal appellate judge in 2014), I know that CP "officially" takes a more critical stance toward him. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:20, 5 September 2019 (EDT)

:Hi 1990'sguy, ''I might step on some toes with this reply, but here goes--don't take this the wrong way.'' I was looking at that earlier, and have been thinking about it. Of course, it needs some style fixes, and some categories. As for the content, this seems more like a joking or borderline humor article/essay, rather than an encyclopedia article, but then again, [[Trump Derangement Syndrome]] does to some extent as well, but we still have that. Some people do have a very strong reflexive response to Cruz which does in many cases seem somewhat unjustified, so I think this may be valid thing to write about in some form.
:The fact of the matter is that neither of these "syndromes" are actual medical conditions or syndromes--this is hyperbole. I question whether that belongs in an encyclopedia, and particularly, the title of an article. Then again, we also use a similar tactic sometimes in reference to scandals (or should-be scandals) by throwing "gate" on the end of it (i.e. [[Obamagate]], [[Muellergate]], [[Climategate]], etc.) which can itself seem rather unprofessional. Basically, I don't like the hyperbole/clickbait title--it seems gimmicky. However, there is something here to be written about, and this will probably fit right in among the others I mentioned (and many more I didn't) --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:44, 5 September 2019 (EDT)

::At least in the case of TDS, that's a term that is now common among conservatives, so it's not like CP made up the term when creating the article. I'm not sure about the other articles you mentioned, but I never heard of the term "Cruz Derangement Syndrome" before seeing this article. However, I won't delete the article and will improve it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:00, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

:::Perhaps I haven't been paying enough attention, then...I've never heard the TDS term anywhere other that CP. I guess I can go either way on CDS. I don't like the terminology, and I generally don't like inventing terms. However, I have no problem with writing about this opposition to Cruz, in some way. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 10:42, 6 September 2019 (EDT)
::::Actually, it looks like CDS isn't quite a new term either: [https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Cruz+Derangement+Syndrome] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 10:48, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

What do you think about this article: [[Team plasma]]? It doesn't seem notable to me, but maybe it can be kept? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:35, 8 September 2019 (EDT)

:I agree, it doesn't seem particularly notable. If we keep it, it should be renamed, but I'm not really convinced it is worth having around. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:25, 8 September 2019 (EDT)

::I just deleted it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 07:49, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

:::Also, I don't know how much you know about this technology company, but do you think the recent edits on this article are positive (I think they probably are, but I want to make sure): [[AMD]]? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:41, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

::::Thanks. I think those edits were well-intentioned. There was a little bit of an oversight there (the posted market share only included one of two types of product), but I corrected it. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:07, 9 September 2019 (EDT)

How should we deal with this article: [[Joel gilbert]]? It's [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Gilbert&oldid=914351777 a copy of a particular version of the Wikipedia article] (compare with even earlier diffs: [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Gilbert&oldid=747121431][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Gilbert&oldid=912556288]) -- an editor tried to change (or revert?) the article to his liking, was reverted, and brought his version here. Besides the capitalization error ("gilbert"), is the article appropriate to keep here? I'm leaning delete, but I'm not sure since it isn't the current or accepted Wikipedia version. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:32, 10 September 2019 (EDT)

:If it was all original content, I would seriously consider keeping it. However, certain parts were not written by this individual. If we chop out the plagiarized parts (everything not added in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Joel_Gilbert&type=revision&diff=914351777&oldid=914306698 this edit]), this isn't going to be a very good article, since the intro paragraph is the first to go. Either a rewite of these portions is needed, or unfortunately, the whole thing needs to go.
:There are also a few typographical errors (such as the title you pointed out, "'''eared'''" rather than earned, etc.) and a few other improvements which could be made. However, these are not worth making unless the plagiarized material is removed. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:19, 11 September 2019 (EDT)
::Would you please make those changes (assuming you have the time and will to do so--if you don't, that's OK)? I'm devoting my CP time right now to work on my Donald Trump achievements project and would rather not spend much time on maintenance work. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:54, 11 September 2019 (EDT)
:::Are the editor's changes sufficient? Upon his request, I deleted the old article title, so please see [[Joel Gilbert]]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:22, 23 September 2019 (EDT)
::::Also, in addition to my comment above, I am wondering (assuming you have the time to do so) if you can find any other free images of Trump's meeting with Hungary's prime minister [[Viktor Orban]] this May,[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trump_amerikai_eln%C3%B6k_%C3%A9s_Orban_Viktor_magyar_minisztereln%C3%B6k.jpg] including on Twitter, Facebook, or wherever. I could only find this image, and I'm not sure even about that because it was uploaded only a few days ago by an apparently new editor and doesn't show licensing information. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:15, 23 September 2019 (EDT)
:::::Apologies, I've been quite busy lately. Most of Joel Gilbert looks pretty good now, but the first paragraph is heavily plagiarized. IF that gets re-written, then we should be all set. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:21, 25 September 2019 (EDT)

:::::As far as photos go, it looks like most news outlets are using Getty Images. They buy a copy of the photo, then own it royalty-free. That means that if we could find a new outlet with a loose copyright policy, we could use it. Unfortunately, most of them have a TOS document a mile long adding prohibitions on top of U.S. copyright law. The only thing I found was [https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/13/president-trump-welcomes-prime-minister-of-hungary-viktor-orban-to-white-house-video-and-transcript/ this], which does not seem to have a set of TOS. This means that only copyright law applies, and theoretically, we could use it under the Fair Use clause. Do you agree? Does that look and sound good enough? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:33, 25 September 2019 (EDT)
::::::I don't know much about copyright law, so I will trust your and Andy's judgments on this. If there aren't any better images, that one is what I will upload. Thanks for checking! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:36, 25 September 2019 (EDT)

:::::::Well, I'm no expert on copyright law either...I'm learning as I go. Actually though, here is one which would be legally safer to use, and doesn't have mics in the frame: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Trump_amerikai_eln%C3%B6k_%C3%A9s_Orban_Viktor_magyar_minisztereln%C3%B6k.jpg] Maybe you were looking for something other than what WP/MW have though. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:41, 25 September 2019 (EDT)
::::::::That is the same image that I linked above -- I found it before messaging you, and I asked you if you were able to find other images because this one was uploaded only a few days ago by a new user and doesn't include licensing information. Because of that, I don't want to upload the image, at least until I'm confident it's OK to load. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:48, 25 September 2019 (EDT)

:::::::::Opps, so you did. I looked at it briefly, then went on the hunt. I forgot to check back to make sure that what I found was different. They claim it is under CC, so if you take that at face value, great. However, that's a good point that it may or may not be true. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:56, 25 September 2019 (EDT)

::::::::::If it's uploaded by an experienced editor with believable documentation, I trust it, but if it's a brand new user with poor evidence of proper licensing, I don't trust it. The user linked to some Hungarian website to show where he found the source (the link is a dead link) and claims it's from the website. It could be true, though I can't find any corresponding U.S. government photo. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:19, 25 September 2019 (EDT)

Good point. It looks like the [https://web.archive.org/web/20190514152046/https://www.hirado.hu/kulfold/kulpolitika/cikk/2019/05/14/hasonlo-vilagnezetet-kepvisel-donald-trump-es-orban-viktor file did exist there], but I can't tell anything about licensing, since I don't speak Hungarian. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:28, 25 September 2019 (EDT)
:Google Translate or something could help, and I'll try to do it later when I get the time. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:57, 25 September 2019 (EDT)
::Under the photo, it says this: "Viktor Orban and Donald Trump (Photo: MTI / EPA / Solid Costumes)" -- does this mean anything of note? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 20 October 2019 (EDT)

:::I figured it was something like that. It doesn't really mean a whole lot to me, but maybe a little. They are crediting the photo to "MTI / EPA / Solid Costumes" which means that it is probably not in the Public Domain. Often, they will use copyrighted photos by permission or contract, so that is probably what is happening in this case. However, I don't know who "MTI / EPA / Solid Costumes" is, so I can't very well track it down. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:37, 20 October 2019 (EDT)

::::OK, thanks. I probably won't upload this image, partially because of the uncertainty over copyright. In addition to this, is this article appropriate to keep: [[Henry ward]]? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:07, 21 October 2019 (EDT)
::::Never, mind -- that "Henry ward" article is apparently a fake/parody article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:59, 21 October 2019 (EDT)

:::::Okay. "No" is generally the safe option, so if in doubt, it's a good default answer. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:25, 21 October 2019 (EDT)

::::::Is this article appropriate to keep, or should it be deleted: [[Polarity technologies ltd]]? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 29 October 2019 (EDT)

:::::::Nope. I deleted it. The language made it clear that this was an advertising attempt. If they want to make a more fair, unbiased attempt I'll consider it. That, however, was just an ad in the form of a wiki page. I do like that they used a few third party sources, but it still was too one-sided and promotional. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:02, 29 October 2019 (EDT)

::::::::Do you think this article should be deleted, or not? [[Black pigeon speaks]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:48, 8 November 2019 (EST)

It looks a bit like a content dump, and was clearly written by someone not familiar with wiki markup language. This makes it seem more like a ad attempt. However, "Black pigeon speaks" seems to be a legitimate entity online who may be somewhat notable. He has 500k Youtube followers, and 63.6K BitChute followers (both platforms seem to offer the same content). Of course, such numbers can be farmed to some extent. However, he does seem to be at least somewhat conservative based on my very brief research. I could go either way on this article. If we keep it, if obviously needs some clean-up. What do you think? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:46, 9 November 2019 (EST)
:It definitely needs cleanup. I'm still not convinced it's notable to keep since some YouTube personalities have several million followers. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 10 November 2019 (EST)

::Yeah, he doesn't seem like anyone particularly notable and differentiating. He might be doing good stuff, but I don't know if that really warrants a CP article about him. This probably stands to benefit him more that our readers. I think I'm leaning towards deletion, but I'd be okay with keeping it if others here see value in it. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:51, 10 November 2019 (EST)
:::I recommend deleting it. At the very least, maybe we should let Andy decide? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:49, 10 November 2019 (EST)
::::Alright, sure let's delete it. We could ask Andy just to make sure, but it's probably okay to just do it. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 11:58, 11 November 2019 (EST)
:::::Without getting distracted from the above article, can you tell whether this article is original or plagiarized? [[The Genesis observer theory]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:23, 12 November 2019 (EST)

It was copied from CreationWiki [http://www.creationwiki.org/Genesis_observer_theory]. That page was mostly written by one author, but some adjustments were made by two others. Plagiarism seems likely, but I will contact the user on this end. I applied for a CreationWiki account awhile back, but it seems my application was rejected or ignored, so I can't ask over there. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:31, 12 November 2019 (EST)
:Note: It was mostly written over there by user "PabloCa2007." The user posting it here is "Pablocastro" --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:33, 12 November 2019 (EST)
::Just based on that, it looks like the page is mostly original, but we'll still need to reach an understanding with the creator (and I saw you already reached out to him). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:37, 12 November 2019 (EST)

== Thank you! ==

Hey David, just wanted to say thanks for the welcome and the advice on the joel gilbert article. Definitely don't wanna mess up anything so I'll go back and fix it! :) I might need a bit of help with the infobox if you wouldn't mind but I might be able to figure it out. Anyhow thank you so much! Feel absolutely free to let me know if anything needs adjustment
[[User:Manny P90|Manny P90]] ([[User talk:Manny P90|talk]]) 14:57, 13 September 2019 (EDT)Manny

:You're welcome, and thank you for your interest in improving it! One thing still concerns me..the first paragraph doesn't seem to be original. Could you perhaps re-write that intro? As for the template, I'd be happy to try to help you, but our inforbox template is significantly different that Wikipedia's, so you can't do a a simple copy-and-paste of that. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:38, 25 September 2019 (EDT)

== New WP articles ==

Hello DavidB4, when you get the chance, please take a look at these two articles: [[Malik Obama]] and [[Dreams from My Real Father]]. The editor who created them stated that they were copied from Wikipedia articles that have been deleted (thus, they may not be original). I already wrote a very short message to the user. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:10, 3 October 2019 (EDT)

:Hi 1990'sguy, I noticed those come in, but didn't have the time to investigate then. At the very least, they need cleanup, but I also am suspicious of their originality. There are similarities between [[Malik Obama]] and [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Barack_Obama#Malik_Obama this], and [[Dreams from My Real Father]] looks like a slight rewrite of [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dreams_from_My_Real_Father this], although it could be the other way around. They at least need some cleanup; I'm leaning towards deletion, but this user has responded in the past, so it could be this is slightly more than just a dump and run maneuver. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:11, 4 October 2019 (EDT)
::Would you please also take a look at this article: [[Nicholas J Fuentes]]? It might not be appropriate to keep on CP. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:53, 5 October 2019 (EDT)

:::I don't see any evidence of plagiarism, and it isn't a wreck like some text dumps, so that's a good start. My main concern is with the matter of notability. It seems that he is somewhat publicly recognized, although he doesn't seem to have a great deal of publicity. He also seems to be in this to make a profit--that's not inherently bad (many talk shows and publications are for-profit endeavors, which I don't mind), but it is worth noting that by giving him some much-needed publicity, we may be helping out his profit margin. Based on these factors, I might lean towards deletion. However, while I don't want RW to decide what we do and do not have, I noticed that they do have an article about this guy (although I didn't bother to read their pig slop). What do you think? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:01, 5 October 2019 (EDT)

::::I made some copyedits, though the title might need to be moved. We could keep it, though the wording might need to be changed to make it sound less promotional. Also, I'm having trouble determining whether he's a consistent conservative or an "alt-right" person, though it looks like the former is more accurate. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:58, 5 October 2019 (EDT)

:::::I don't know much about him, and all I can find seems to be name-calling, ad hominem attacks, etc. which are loaded with bias. I will somewhat take back what I said about not much publicity...after digging a bit more, I have found a quantity of the standard liberal attack pieces against him, saying things like "Well, he said on Thursday that he is not a white supremacist and opposes violence, but actually the opposite is true, and random democrat xyz says that he is trying to play the victim here, and not simply being attacked for his views."
:::::It seems he had to leave his college because of these attacks, death threats, etc. after making his political views known. 'm starting to think maybe we should keep an article about him. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:41, 5 October 2019 (EDT)

::::::That sounds good to me, so I'll accept keeping the article, though it may need further improvements. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:11, 6 October 2019 (EDT)

The [[Malik Obama]] and [[Dreams from My Real Father]] still haven't been edited by the article creator. What should we do with them? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:15, 15 October 2019 (EDT)

:I've deleted them. If the author disagrees, they can be restored by an admin. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:18, 17 October 2019 (EDT)

== Cult leader Adnan Oktar ==

Hi. Could you please upload a picture of [[Harun Yahya|Adnan Oktar]]'s old and new look? I found this picture: [http://www.mavikocaeli.com.tr/resimler/iste-adnan-oktar-in-karanlik-gecmisi-unlu_11038318_39_fe5ee97f1d33bbc62e23.jpg]. Search results: [https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACYBGNSvWCIzFVBVujBE79-3Cfj1nZt-hA%3A1570459097293&source=hp&biw=1366&bih=625&ei=2U2bXcWiD6SorgS-uanwDQ&q=Adnan+Oktar+eski&oq=Adnan+Oktar+eski&gs_l=img.3..35i39l2j0i30l3j0i8i30.1823.15117..15325...1.0..0.173.2613.0j17......0....1..gws-wiz-img.......0.AJMOrW1Xhl8&ved=0ahUKEwiF84CFsIrlAhUklIsKHb5cCt4Q4dUDCAY&uact=5]. If you want, you can upload an old and a new photo of him side by side. Thanks. - [[User:Andrewlee|Andrewlee]] ([[User talk:Andrewlee|talk]]) 10:42, 7 October 2019 (EDT)
:Conservapedia needs to follow copyright laws. Please upload this picture: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Adnan_oktar_01.jpg

:I would do it myself, but I have a very full schedule today.[[User:Wikignome72|Wikignome72]] ([[User talk:Wikignome72|talk]]) 10:58, 7 October 2019 (EDT)

::I'll certainly upload this one, Wikignome72. See: [[:File:Adnan oktar 01.jpg]].
::Andrewlee, If we can find a copy of the other which is under a [[Creative Commons]] license, or is in the [[public domain]], that would be good. We might be able to use a copyrighted one under the [[Fair use]] clause, but that is more difficult.
::My favorite places to search for images with relaxed licensing are:
*[https://commons.wikimedia.org Wikimedia commons]
*[https://www.flickr.com/search/?license=2%2C3%2C4%2C5%2C6%2C9 Flickr.com]
but there any many others also, such as these:
*[https://pixabay.com PixaBay]
*[https://morguefile.com Morguefile.com]
*[http://www.publicdomainpictures.net PublicDomainPictures.net]

::Let me know if you have any luck. Thanks!

== Requesting help with article about our ministry. ==

David, can you help me? I'm trying to edit a page on my organization, Global Media Outreach, which seems to be frequently vandalized. We didn't even add the page on us; just came across it while researching something. When I first found it it was completely negative. Some organization called Billion Bibles seems to have a criticism with us, so I edited our page and just put forth the gospel as we share it on the page so that people can make their own judgment about whether or not we have some kind of deficient version of it (we don't). Last month, the criticism reappeared as a link to the BillionBIbles organization again. They seem desperate to both link to themselves from anyone searching Conservapedia for info about us and to smear us. I don't want to publicly criticize them, just to remove their unjustified criticism of us. Thanks for any help or advice you can provide! [[User:Abranch|Abranch]] ([[User talk:Abranch|talk]]) 13:55, 16 October 2019 (EDT)abranch

:I've heard of BillionBibles before, but know almost nothing about them. However, the article on Global Media Outreach seems to only briefly mention some opposition. The linked BillionBibles page criticizes Global Media Outreach for teaching the "four spiritual laws" which they believe tends towards the "Health, Wealth, and Prosperity Gospel" and leaves out any mention of God's call (and [[predestination]], as some believe) as well as a couple other points. [https://www.billionbibles.com/four-spiritual-laws.html]. These seem like they might be valid criticisms to at least note. Our article as it was simply stated that there was some opposition to Global Media Outreach, without subjectively declaring it to be wrong, so it seems that we were already leaving it up to the reader to decide what to think. I'm also somewhat confused as to why you removed the word "some," making the page basically say that all Christians say that your organization is wrong. I've fine with some rewording or explanation, but I think it is worth keeping some mention of doctrinal disagreements. Conservapedia is read and edited by people of many different beliefs, so we generally try to present both view points and let the reader decide. It sounds like this is what you wanted, and it seems to me, that is what we are doing. Furthermore, the [[Internet_evangelism#Global_Media_Outreach|Internet_evangelism]] page (to which you deleted the link) speaks favorably of Global Media Outreach. I have reverted both of these changes, since they seem to make the problem you are speaking about worse.
:Is there something I'm missing here? If the article is being unfair to Global Media Outreach, then I would be fine with trying to balance it out--I just don't see any specific glaring issues. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:04, 17 October 2019 (EDT)

David, regarding your note on the 16th—you were right. There were edits on the article mentioning us that were telescoping somehow and when I tried to edit one it wouldn't let me because it affected another. I didn't understand and was out of time. So—user error; I'm afraid I'm not a regular contributor, I just try to watch out for slander on us, and this site is about the only example of it I have found on the web. Sometimes slander shows up in overt ways, sometimes subtle. Just look at Wikipedia's article on the Apostle Paul, which includes "Among the critics of Paul the Apostle was Thomas Jefferson, a Deist, who wrote that Paul was the 'first corrupter of the doctrines of Jesus.' Christian anarchists Leo Tolstoy and Ammon Hennacy take a similar view." That's bad enough, because it makes the reader feel as if the page ahs an agenda; but imagine if it were the first point in the entry, as "Criticism of Global Media Outreach" is for us.

:Okay, some little mix-ups are fine. However, I'm not quite sure what you are looking to have changed. I have slightly reworded and expanded the "[[Global_Media_Outreach#Criticism_of_Global_Media_Outreach|criticisms]]" section..what do you think? I don't think we should remove this section altogether, but some changes can be made. In any case, it doesn't really sound like slander to me, as it currently stands. There are many different denominations and doctrines within the christian faith, so it is pretty normal for some to criticize others on certain controversial issues. Thanks for your input! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:21, 28 October 2019 (EDT)

Why was my edit reverted? I know I messed up the citation link thing but I'm new to this. I just think harm reduction is very important. If, for some reason, someone comes here for info on LSD they should know about something that is pretty common and could ruin their experience.
[[User:Yaoi|Yaoi]] ([[User talk:Yaoi|talk]]) 08:52, 31 October 2019 (EDT)

:You deleted a significant amount of content (over 2KB) with that edit. See: https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=LSD&diff=prev&oldid=1589093
:Your addition was probably fine, but make sure not to remove everything else. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:01, 31 October 2019 (EDT)

==Thomas Heyward==
These should probably be merged. [[Thomas Heyward Jr.]] [[Thomas Heyward]]. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 21:53, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
:Yeah, it should be. Good catch. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:16, 1 November 2019 (EDT)
::I've merged them. The result is here: [[Thomas Heyward Jr.]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:26, 1 November 2019 (EDT)

==Delete and move==
Could you delete [[Georges Sorel]], and move [[George Sorel]] in its place? [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 10:30, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
:I did it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:08, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
::Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:57, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
:::You're welcome! Just a note, you will have to do Teakin88's [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Community_Portal&diff=1590504&oldid=1561721 requests] at [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]], since they are not WP Commons images. Otherwise, I would have tried to upload them if I get time (which I don't have a lot of, like you I presume). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:18, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
::::Thanks, yes [[CP:IUR]] is a disaster right now. I may never catch up. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:21, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
:::::If I get some extra time, I will upload some of the easier requests. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:24, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
::::::Thanks! I wouldn't mind, but those are not the big problem, so you don't need to. It's nice when we get some that are PD/CC so I can just breeze through them! It's the copyrighted ones that are a problem. I do my best, but it takes a lot of time and I really am not professionally qualified to make this kind of determination. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:36, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
:::::::I'm considering giving PD/CC requests priority over copyrighted images. People are submitting requests for images that are obviously okay to use, but then waiting months to get them uploaded. It's not really fair to them. I might abandon the first-come, first-served system. I don't know if this would be fair either, though. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:39, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
::::::::It seems like a good idea to me. How many users are requesting PD/CC images versus more complicated requests? If more are requesting the former, but IUR is being backlogged by one or two other editors, prioritizing seems like a good idea to me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:54, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
::::::::Also, it might be a good idea to archive the completed request sections on IUR. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:02, 2 November 2019 (EDT)
At present, we have 1 person regularly asking for PD/CC and two people asking for copyrighted ones. That means this change would mostly benefite that one person. However, in the past (and once in a while) we've have a number of other users (maybe about 4) asking for PD/CC images as well. Not recently, though. Besides, though who make good requests tend to get upload rights of their own. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:45, 2 November 2019 (EDT)

==Disambiguation==
Could you make [[Samuel Huntington]] into a disambiguation page for [[Samuel P. Huntington]] and [[Samuel Huntington (signer)]]? [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 12:51, 24 November 2019 (EST)
:Good idea--thanks for pointing that out! Done as requested. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:21, 24 November 2019 (EST)
::Thank you for doing these BTW. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 20:41, 3 December 2019 (EST)

==Merge request==
[[Cato's Letters]] and [[Cato Letters]]. The correct term/name is '''"Cato's Letters"''',(And [[Cato's Letters]] appears to me to be the better written) but there is some issue with the page views and history/revisions of the two articles that needs consideration. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 22:45, 2 December 2019 (EST)
:Also, could you switch these? The 'The' is a part of the actual title. [[American Crisis]], [[The American Crisis]] [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 22:49, 2 December 2019 (EST)
:Of course! Done as requested: [[The American Crisis]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:04, 3 December 2019 (EST)
::Cato's Letters? [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 20:41, 3 December 2019 (EST)
:::Sorry, now I'm doing it. I guess I just read the last post, and assumed the rest was prior conversation. It wouldn't have been that hard to read it...
:::Anyway, I've merged the two to [[Cato's Letters]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:09, 4 December 2019 (EST)
::::Thanks! [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 17:49, 12 December 2019 (EST)

== Permission to use images for conservapedia via e-mail permission from image owner ==
Hi DavidB4, I've worked to create an eighth page here on conservapedia. On my eighth page there are 4-5 sections that need the emphasis of photo info-boxes to elaborate visually to the article from a scientific and creative stance. Images have been granted permission to me for use on conservapedia with no inhibited copyright laws per the image creators via e-mail. These e-mails were the only convenient way to gain permission because of the image owners location and time zone in Finland and in Europe with myself being in North America Pacific time. [[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] suggested for me to contact you here about you being an editor who can upload with these e-mail permissions or if I can forward permissions to you, and that you might be willing to have to contact via email with me on this page request for these uploads? Thank you. ([[User talk:Technotronical|talk]]) 23:16, 10 December 2019 (EST)

:Hi Technotronical! Sure, I can help you with that. That's great that you already got permission! Would you please forward the email chain where they gave permission to me (davidb4-public@archnet.us)? Then, I'll just need to know exactly which images it is you want uploaded (if you have the URLs to these images, that would be best), and I should be able to upload them for you. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 12:27, 11 December 2019 (EST)

:Hi DavidB4, Thank you very much for your help with these. I've sent you the 2 e-mails to (davidb4-public@archnet.us) Please let me know if you need anything else or what I can do to help. Here's the page https://www.conservapedia.com/Red_Hair --[[User_talk:Technotronical|Technotronical]] ([[User talk:Technotronical|talk]]) 20:51, 19 December 2019 (EST)

::Hi Technotronical, I sent you a couple emails in reply on December 12. Did you get those? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:07, 19 December 2019 (EST)

::: Hi DavidB4, I just searched through my e-mail under the address and for that date 12/12... and do not see anything for an e-mail response. Could you please re-send or respond here? --[[User_talk:Technotronical|Technotronical]] ([[User talk:Technotronical|talk]]) 21:25, 19 December 2019 (EST)

::::Odd. I just resent them. You should have received a total of 3 messages from me today. Maybe they are getting caught in your spam trap? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:12, 19 December 2019 (EST)

:::::Yes, very unusual. Thanks for re-sending. I still don't have them and looked in the SPAM quarantine folder. Building the anticipation. Can you please resend to another e-mail address? (mom2lexie_bing_maddie@yahoo.com) --[[User_talk:Technotronical|Technotronical]] ([[User talk:Technotronical|talk]]) 23:44, 19 December 2019 (EST)

::::::Done. If that doesn't work, I'll just post an abbreviated version here. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:28, 21 December 2019 (EST)

::::::: Thank you so much for hanging in here with me. I did get the e-mail at my yahoo inbox. I just replied back. Merry Christmas!!! --[[User_talk:Technotronical|Technotronical]] ([[User talk:Technotronical|talk]]) 23:32, 24 December 2019 (EST)

:Slightly off topic, What was the reason that Minuteman blocked Technotronical? I honestly don't know if there's a back story. Just asking. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:16, 27 December 2019 (EST)
::I'm obviously not DavidB4, but I'm pretty sure the block has nothing to do with Technotronical or his edits -- the bot blocks users based on whatever criteria is programmed into it, and that means that sometimes, innocent editors are blocked. It's happened before. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 27 December 2019 (EST)

'''Technotronical:''' I got your email and will reply soon. I have been very busy lately. Also, sorry about Minuteman blocking you without a good explanation. 
'''Progressingamerica/Technotronical:''' Minuteman blocked Technotronical because it detected numerous questionable words and phrases being posted on [[Red Hair]], [[Blockbuster Video]], and [[Let's Make a Deal]]. These were mostly sexual in nature. I am willing to provide details which are not appropriate for polite company, but not on an open talk page. There were also evidences of possible plagiarism going on with [[Red Hair]], so Minuteman didn't like that either. I have set Minuteman to "Trust" Technotronical, so it will be much less likely to issue blocks against this user in the future. 
'''Technotronical:''' I am seeing some material in [[Red Hair]] which seems to have been copied in. I see duplicate content on pages like:
*https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/biochemistry-genetics-and-molecular-biology/melanocortin-1-receptor
*The book "Advances in Cancer Research" by Paul B. Fisher and Kenneth D. Tew
*https://www.definitions.net/definition/red+hair
*and of course, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
Except for short, clearly labeled quotes, you should never use the exact words of other people. Additionally, you should always cite your sources, for any facts or ideas retrieved from other places. 
'''1990'sguy:''' Thanks for the quick response! Again, I've been quite busy the last few weeks. In this case it was a large number of slightly questionable things which triggered Minuteman initially. After blocking a user once, it is more likely to do it again. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:32, 28 December 2019 (EST)

==Delete request==
The misspelling "seige" should not appear in the search bar when typed in. Unless, of course, it is for someone's last name and is then the correct spelling. [[Seigenthaler]]

*[[Seige mentality]] - delete
*[[Seige of Troy]] - delete
[[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 17:50, 12 December 2019 (EST)

:Good catch! I've deleted them. I also created a redirect from [[Siege of Troy]]. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:18, 12 December 2019 (EST)
::Thanks! Here's another one for delete and move. [[Chisholm v. Georgia]], [[Chisolm v. Georgia]]. The misspelled one should probably be kept for content, and the one I created deleted; then move to the correct spelling. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:12, 27 December 2019 (EST)
:::Done! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:42, 28 December 2019 (EST)

::::Thanks 1990'sguy! I've also deleted the [[Chisolm v. Georgia]] redirect, since I don't think that will be beneficial to keep. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:33, 28 December 2019 (EST)

== Giggle Corp ==

Please see these pages: [[User talk:AmericanIronMan]], [[User talk:AmericanTonyStark]], [[Giggle, Corp.]] (red link, see deletion history), and [[Giggle, Inc.]] (red link, see deletion history) You might have a better idea than me on whether this article is notable enough to have an article on. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:08, 2 January 2020 (EST)

:"Giggle Corp" appears to be a small business (not sure if it's registered as such), and mygiggle.us has been online for less than two months. It's definitely not a big player right now, but it wants to be. The website still seems a bit rough around the edges. Before I make a solid decision, I'm hoping that I can engage this user in conversation. I have a few questions and suggestions for them. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:07, 2 January 2020 (EST)

::Sounds good. I wish Conservative didn't block the first account without engaging with him. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:10, 2 January 2020 (EST)

:::Well, he came back so we still can talk. It looks like he's using a proxy connection, which is technically against the rules...then again having a second account is, too. I think he stands to gain a lot more than we do, since we will quite possibly put his service on the map. That means this subject probably falls into the "not sufficiently notable" category. Still, I'm hoping to talk with him. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:36, 2 January 2020 (EST)

::::Thank you sir, for your kind inquiry. I am not trying to necessarily take on Google. Google has its own legitimate following. I am trying to simply offer an alternative to major companies for individuals who would like to maintain a degree of privacy. In a world that is changing so fast, I believe that one of the things that helps us preserve our freedom is our privacy. Privacy should be an option for those who would like to maintain it. It is encouraging to me that there are outlets such as "Conservapedia" that share some of these same ideals. You are correct, our website is new, however it has been in development for three years now. The first very ugly version of it was hosted on a different domain but with the same concept being the respect of privacy of user information. As far as the question you thought might be "stupid", there are no stupid questions and I am grateful for the opportunity to clear up any confusion as to any connection to that Facebook account. Let me make it clear that we are not associated with that user or his affiliates. And as to feedback regarding the website mygiggle.us, any input you have we would greatly appreciate, as we consider your time extremely valuable. Thank you for your consideration and your time. --[[User:AmericanTonyStark|AmericanTonyStark]] ([[User talk:AmericanTonyStark|TALK]]) 20:24, 3 January 2020 (EST)

And thank you for the information! I think such alternatives are valuable. In hopes it will help you out, here is some (hopefully) constructive criticism:

It's great that you are interested in protecting your users' privacy. However, I did find a few things that gave me pause. I suspect your Terms of Service and Privacy Policy might have been made from a template, so perhaps it was not you saying these things.
#Your Privacy policy says that you "may" use web beacons. Why? This is a tracking technology, which seems to go against user privacy.
#Your Privacy policy says that you ignore "Do-not-track" requests. Admittedly, most websites do. You have the standard statement that there is no established industry standard, so you choose to ignore the users' requests for privacy altogether. It's a minor concern in my mind, but it doesn't sound very privacy-friendly. You could at least make sure to set a high privacy standard for all uses, then note in your privacy policy that all users are given the same high standard of privacy, whether or not they request it.
#Your Privacy policy says that you use cookies, but again, most people do. My question (which I did not investigate) is whether or not you use them for any purposes other than logging in users. Cookies must be used if users are going to log in to accounts. However, my concern would be whether or not they are used for any other purpose. Ideally, I would like to see cookies only added to client's devices when they log in. If they don't log in, don't issue a cookie. This might be hard to make happen though--I know web design is complex.
#Your site uses Google Tag manger. If I'm trying to stay away from companies abusing my data, using an alternative site which in turn uses Google services doesn't seem like it might be a good choice.

Other issues I noticed:
*The top-left logo has a background color which does not match the banner it is on. Perhaps you could use an image without a background. That shouldn't be too difficult, but even easier than that would be to at least change the image's background color to match the banner's color, so people don't notice.
*When the "clustered search" option is used, it brings up a list of "F-Clusters." This whole interface seemed a little confusing to me. What is it? How does it work? What does it do? Perhaps a little explanation of some sort, even just in the form of a "Help" link on that search result page might be helpful.
*When looking at your Privacy Policy, there are links at the top of the page to jump to specific section. That is a common thing to have, and I like it. However, when I click on one of those, it breaks out of your site's frame and loads this webpage instead: https://app.termly.io/dashboard/website/305072/privacy-policy

And a couple more comments:
*You are using CloudFlare, which is in itself fine. They seem to offer good services. However, you might want to be aware that they have "de-platformed" numerous conservative services and websites. If they don't like you for political reasons, they will throw you out. You probably won't have issues of this sort, but you might just want to keep that in mind.
*Lastly, your Terms of Service state that anyone other than government agencies and a couple other groups of people must get written approval from you in order to link to your website. Firstly, I don't see how you expect to enforce that. Secondly, why? If low-ranked websites link to you, are are not likely to be benefited in terms of your own page rank. However, this is how the web works...if you want to get noticed, you need people, anywhere and everywhere, to link to your site. It seems odd to me, therefore, that you are trying to prohibit such linking (not that anyone is actually probably going to read that anyway).

I hope your service can succeed! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:05, 4 January 2020 (EST)
::Thank you for your timely and helpful response. I have to say, you are obviously knowledgeable and thorough, and your input is greatly appreciated. So, Thank You again. I have reviewed your comments regarding the company’s privacy policy (and terms and conditions) and agree with you on every point. I have gone through your list point by point though I still have a few changes to make. I have revised the privacy policy according to the points you recommended. I made the policy using a template and the assistance of termly.io, and there was a point in which I was prompted to answer the question, “Do you want to allow people to link to your website?” At that time, I thought there would be more protection for the site if people did not link to it. As time went on and development of the site continued, I came to the same conclusion as you did, that I would like people to link to the site. My mistake was that I had not returned to my Terms and Conditions to change this. If it wasn’t for you it would have been some time before I would have gone back and reviewed it. --[[User:AmericanTonyStark|AmericanTonyStark]] ([[User talk:AmericanTonyStark|TALK]]) 18:21, 7 January 2020 (EST)

:::Okay, that sounds good--thanks! When choosing a service to use, I typically dig into the service's info some before making a decision. I know that tends to be unusual--most people don't bother to read the TOS, Privacy Policy, and other info. So, it probably isn't a big deal to have a few minor issues of these sorts, as long as you are disclosing everything you need to. Building a web service like this is a pretty big undertaking, so it's easy for a few unimportant things to slip through the cracks.
:::I figured that you probably were using a template or builder for the TOS and PP. It makes sense to do. If you have the time and interest, you could also go so far as to provide short, standard English section summaries. So for example, the section on cookies could perhaps be summarized "We use cookies to keep you logged in. We do not use them to monitor your behavior." I've seen this in some such legal disclosures, so that the full legal jargon is still there, but a simple explanation is also provided. Again though, not many people read those, so it may not be worth your time at this point.
:::In regard to your initial question (whether you can create a page on Conservapedia about your service), it's not me intent to string you along and waste your time. To be clear, I don't think that at this time your service is "notable" enough to warrant this. An encyclopedia is intended to be a collection of public knowledge, not an index of things people probably know nothing about. However, I think with some time and effort, it can soon qualify.
:::There is one other thing I'd like to tell you, but not on a public page such as this. You don't at all need to, but would you be willing and able to email me at davidb4-public@archnet.us ? (This way, you don't need to publicly post your address.) If you prefer not to, that's fine.

:::Thanks for your time! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:20, 8 January 2020 (EST)

== Category clean-up ==

Best of luck with [https://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Firearms firearms TAR pit]. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 22:01, 4 January 2020 (EST)

:I haven't looked into it very closely, but some of those sub-categories might be appropriate to delete outright. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:16, 4 January 2020 (EST)

::Gee thanks, JohnZ. 1900'sguy, they might be. I haven't delved too far into it yet, but I suspect so. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:33, 4 January 2020 (EST)

:::Rather you than me down that rabbit hole. Little help, though: you can delete the [https://www.conservapedia.com/Category:Battles_Rifles Battles (!) rifles category]. I [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=M1_Garand&curid=5210&diff=1612016&oldid=1429076 removed] its only entry. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 19:41, 8 January 2020 (EST)

::::Rabbit hole? This is more like a mine shaft. It is huge, and it twists, turns, and goes many different directions. Oh, and there's no map. Anyway, thanks for the help. I already deleted it. I don't know why that ever existed... --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:48, 8 January 2020 (EST)

:::::Should these categories be deleted: [[:Category:Semi-Automatic Pistols]], [[:Category:Semi-Automatic Pistol Ammunition]]? Both have only one article in them. If other relevant articles can be found, fine, but if not, it isn't necessary and doesn't deserve its own category. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:58, 8 January 2020 (EST)
::::::Same thing for [[:Category:Semi-Automatic Firearms]]. Yes, I think they should probably be deleted. There are too many similar, overlapping categories with little reason for existing right now. Good catch! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:00, 8 January 2020 (EST)

== Article review ==

Would you please take a look at this article? [[Origin point]] -- it may need to be moved to an essay, or otherwise improved. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:44, 6 January 2020 (EST)
:I'm okay with having this kind of an article in mainspace, but it should be expanded. Also, the tumbleweed needs to go. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:03, 6 January 2020 (EST)
::Would you also please take a look at this article: [[Escape from Uncle Sam's Plantation by Ed Temple]]? This editor seems to have good intentions, and I lean toward accepting his articles, but they should still be fixed to follow CP guidelines. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:49, 10 January 2020 (EST)
:::We could make an argument against it on the basis of notability, but I'm fine with keeping this one. I see some room for improvement (as do you), but I think this is worth keeping. It lacks cohesion and basic wiki styling, but it seems to be an original, well-intentioned entry about something our readers may find interesting. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:45, 11 January 2020 (EST)
::::Admittedly, there might be some bias from this editor, though... --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:48, 11 January 2020 (EST)
:::::Would you also please take a look at this article: [[Aditya Chattopadhyay]]? I apologize for always pestering you with these requests. I'm focuses on the "Donald Trump achievements" articles and have little time to deal with new pages like this because of that. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:10, 11 January 2020 (EST)
::::::No need to apologize! I find myself on a strange schedule, which sometimes causes me to miss recent activity which I should be reviewing.
::::::I deleted this one--it's about a collage student who does not seem particularly notable. It claimed that he was going to run for president in 2060, and included what seemed to be an affiliate/referral link to a "campaign" t-shirt he is supposedly selling. That one just smelled wrong for multiple reasons. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:40, 11 January 2020 (EST)
:::::::Thank you. Would you please look at this page, which seems to be a hybrid article/userpage: [[User:FreedommovementUSA]]? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:16, 12 January 2020 (EST)
Yeah, I was looking at that one a little bit earlier...I'm not as sure what to say about it. It's an article, which they put in userspace--that's odd. I've never heard of this group before; I suspect that it has been recently founded, but I haven't done significant research. I don't have any immediate concerns about the content, but I don't know if it is notable enough to warrant a page. Do you know anything about them? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:03, 12 January 2020 (EST)
:This is the first I've heard of them. I found their website here: [https://www.freedommovementusa.com/] They don't seem like a very notable organization, though I would be OK with keeping the article as it's obviously a conservative organization. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:32, 12 January 2020 (EST)
::Same. It looks like this is a self-promotion attempt, which I tend to favor less that organic writing. However, I could go either way on this. I suppose we could just leave it where it is--allow the info to be here, but barely. It might show up in web searches, but not from most internal searching. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:51, 12 January 2020 (EST)
:::Sounds good to me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:53, 12 January 2020 (EST)

::::Ok, let's do that, at least for now. It will be interesting to see if this editor intends to do anything more than this. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:01, 12 January 2020 (EST)

== New article requests ==

Hello DavidB4, looking through your TAR removals, I noticed that several red links to what should be obvious articles do not have an article. For example, [[Water cycle]] and [[Nitrogen cycle]], as well as [[Cascade Range]] which I just created. If you're willing, as you do maintenance on the various articles, would you please look for red links to what a reasonable person would consider an obvious/prominent article for an encyclopedia? I'm not asking you to create them, but just to document them so that every obvious encyclopedia search has an article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:57, 6 January 2020 (EST)
:Good idea, sure I'll at least make note of them, and try to work from there. I probably can't make too many pages on such topics, but its worth paying attention to. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:12, 6 January 2020 (EST)

== Image upload requests... ==

Hi DavidB4, can you see if you can upload any of the images I requested into files? ([[Conservapedia:Image upload requests#Please_convert_the_following_images_into_files|this section]]) I'm really hoping that all the permissions are met so that they can be uploaded, as many of the images are meant for contributing to the [[Conservapedia]] pages on nominees for the upcoming 2020 elections. Thanks! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 3:59, 27 January 2020

:It looks like none of these images are being made freely available for reuse. I can try to check each one individually (a time consuming process) to see if any of them seem to allow reuse with restrictions. That will take some time though, and I'm currently busy doing that on a set of requests made prior to yours. Since some of these people are politicians, I suspect that you could find freely available images of them on places like Flickr and Wikimedia commons. If such images exist and are suitable, we really should try to use those. If you did, I could upload those quickly. Otherwise, (if no suitable copies are freely available) I can slowly work my way through this list. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:45, 27 January 2020 (EST)

::If you're busy working on other matters, then don't bother individually checking to see if the images I requested allow permission for you to download into files. I'll just find other images that are under a Creative Common license. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 7:27, 27 January 2020

:I left notes on a few which I spot-checked, so please take a look at those when you get the chance. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:50, 27 January 2020 (EST)

::I saw the notes, and updated some of the requests. Regarding the requests I haven't updated yet, I'll get to those soon. Thank you, DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 8:54, 27 January 2020

:::Okay, thank you! That would be great if you could get some CC ones. If you just can't get a particular photo any other way, then I can look at what you do have, and see if I think we can use it under Fair Use. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:08, 27 January 2020 (EST)

== Cropping down some images... ==

For these three images ([[:File:Kyrsten Sinema.jpg]], [[:File:Gary Peters.jpg]], and [[:File:Senator Gretchen Whitmer.jpg]]) that you uploaded, can you see if you can crop them down so that only the head and part of the shoulders are part of the image and that the resulting dimensions are that of a portrait, similar to how most [[Conservapedia]] images for politicians are? For the first and last one, if you crop them, the hand gesture can be cropped out. Thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 14:47, 26 February 2020 (EST)

:[[:File:Kyrsten Sinema 2018.jpg]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:55, 8 March 2020 (EDT)
::Thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 17:46, 8 March 2020 (EDT)

:::You're welcome! If you wanted to crop any of these yourself, you could email them to me or upload them to cloud storage somewhere for me to get. That might make this a little faster, and it would ensure they are being cropped correctly. Otherwise, I'll do them when I get the chance.
:::[[:File:Gary Peters 2008.jpg]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:04, 8 March 2020 (EDT)
::::Thank you again, DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 21:00, 8 March 2020 (EDT)

:::::You're welcome, and here's the last one: [[:File:Senator Gretchen Whitmer 2011.jpg]].
:::::I just noticed that you did initially ask for it to be cropped, but I guess I missed that. My mistake! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:37, 9 March 2020 (EDT)
::::::Yes! Thank you DavidB4 for finishing up the requested cropping! Also, because it was about two weeks ago, I do believe that you said that you will crop down [[:File:Pramila Jayapal.jpg]], as you mentioned [[Conservapedia:Image_upload_requests#February_7.2C_2020_image_requests_by_Liberaltears|here]]. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 16:56, 9 March 2020 (EDT)

== Question about previous image upload request for Charles A. Halleck ==

Hi DavidB4, I noticed that for the earlier image upload requests I added, you skipped the one for [[Charles A. Halleck]] ([https://bioguideretro.congress.gov/Home/MemberDetails?memIndex=H000081 this one]) because the "Rights and Reproductions" page stated that a reuse required expressed permission via email. However, I noticed that a similar image for [[Sam Rayburn]] from the same website (history.house.gov) ([https://history.house.gov/Collection/Detail/29447?ret=True this one]) was reused as a file on Wikipedia ([https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Samuel_Taliaferro_Rayburn.jpg here]) with the licensing saying "public domain" because it is a work of the federal government. Therefore, doesn't that mean that the image request I added for Charles Halleck can be uploaded as well because it is also part of a collection of the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] just like the one for Sam Rayburn? Thanks! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 18:17, 6 March 2020 (EST)

:That's a good question--had I seen wikipedia's page first, I probably would had assumed it was fine. However, if you look at the source page, it says that "''Sam Rayburn had his portrait painted by British artist Douglas Chandor shortly after his election as Speaker.''" This means that the paining was ordered by Rayburn himself, not the federal government, and painted by an independent painter, not a federal employee. Unless I am missing something, this does not sound like Public Domain to me. Furthermore, the source says that in order to reuse the image, you must contact them to request permission. [https://history.house.gov/About/Rights-and-Reproduction/]
:Images default into public domain some time after the author's death (90 years, I think) but we have not reached that yet. I would like to say we can use it, but I don't see any legal basis to do so, unless we fill out the form asking for permission (which you are welcome to do). --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:45, 7 March 2020 (EST)
::Thank you for the clarification, DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]] ([[User talk:Liberaltears|talk]]) 18:22, 7 March 2020 (EST)

== Two questions ==

Thank you for the notice. I had a look at some of the pages in your post and the [[Help:List of Templates]] page has already shown me that in future, I could use a template when I am adding a quote to an article. I have two questions. 
1. I read [[Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia]] and on the second point on that page: I recently edited the Wikipedia article for Witching Hour and I copied the information I added there for the witching hour sub-section on [[Witch]] on this website. Are the Wikipedia administration likely to have an issue with this?
2. I wouldn't mind knowing good Christian websites to use as references for adding information to articles on Conservapedia. I know of a few such as [[The Christian Post]], Gospel Herald, Christian Today, [[Christianity Today]] and the [[Creation Ministries International]] website. But if there is any more good websites, that would the selection of websites I source from. I'm personally trying, (if I can help it) to use Christian websites in particular because those websites seem likely to be the ones that Wikipedia will have a [[liberal bias]] against. Thanks. --[[User:StFrancisThames|StFrancisThames]] ([[User talk:StFrancisThames|talk]]) 20:51, 10 March 2020 (EDT)

:And thanks for joining us!
:# In this case, you own the right to that text, so it is okay to copy it over. We prefer not to just publish duplicate content which is also on WP, but doing this occasionally, and especially in small amounts is fine. Just make sure you don't copy any edits or additions from other WP users, and it should be fine.
:# Good question...There are many, but it depends what kind of content you are looking for. For example, answersingenesis.org and icr.org offer some great information in regard to science and history. I would be cautions of Christianity Today though, as it seems they sometimes are promoting things which don't exactly align with scripture. If you are looking for information on current events, wnd.com and breitbart.com can be good resources. These are not purely christian sites, but they are generally favorable towards Christianity and christian values. We also have a page with a bunch more links, although its organizational style might need a little work: [[Conservative_links#Conservative_Organizations]]. Do any of these help? Is there any topic in particular you need resources on? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:18, 10 March 2020 (EDT)

::Hello again. Thank you for your help and sorry for taking my time to reply to you. After editing for a while, my current concern is perhaps not so much my ability to find sources but my ability to translate my research onto pages in quality typed English. I don't like to copy word-for-word what a source says because of copyright and any other applicable reasons but I wonder if my use of thesaurus websites is creating weird sentences. For example, I found [https://www.christianpost.com/news/millennials-most-likely-to-fact-check-sermons-barna-study-finds.html this source] to use for the [[Millennial]] page but before I clicked the "Save Page" button, I wondered if saying that Millenials were "surelier to verify claims of taught moral messages" was strange wording. As I type this, it doesn't seem so bad, but I think there might be a worse example in my editing history. I remember in English class when I was in high school, I wrote "units of motor vehicles" for creative writing and the teacher thought my language was "scientific". Do you have any thoughts about this? Thanks.--[[User:StFrancisThames|StFrancisThames]] ([[User talk:StFrancisThames|talk]]) 18:36, 19 March 2020 (EDT)

:::Hi again, that's no problem at all! That wording does sound a little odd to me, and without context, I'm not quite sure what it is trying to say. The thing that stands out to me is "surelier." The word "surely" already implies an absolute, so adding "er" to the end doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If it is already an absolute, how can it then be somehow more absolute? However, context can help with such confusion to some extent. Likewise for "units of motor vehicles," without the context, I don't really know exactly what you are trying to say. The word "Units" can be used when counting ("There are 17 units of ___"), when referring to s specific device ("This unit seems to be operating normally.") or in reference to a group ("The soldiers had a long day ahead of them so the unit went to bed early"). If you are not sure about word usage, maybe look at a dictionary, and see what t lists for the first definition. If it isn't the first or second definition, maybe try a different word. If it isn't in the dictionary you are using, also try a different word. I know it's not perfect, and it is a real hassle to do, but it might help.
:::Unfortunately, books and other reference materials cannot always convey cultural norms and common verbiage. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:03, 19 March 2020 (EDT)

== Hello ==

:Thank you very much for the warm welcome. I look forward to us working together to better Conservapedia. Feel free to add to any new articles that I have created. [[User:Bytemsbu|Bytemsbu]] ([[User talk:Bytemsbu|talk]])

== Green Name ==

Hello, I was recently on this page (https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Community_Portal) when I came across an entry written by you, however, your name was green compared to the red/blue of everyone else, it may just be me being curious, but why is that? --[[User:Elnencatala|Elnencatala]] ([[User talk:Elnencatala|talk]]) 16:41, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

:I think you're referring to the signature. Assuming you're logged in, if you look on the top of the page, right in between the “Talk” page and “Watchlist”, there should be a “Preferences” page internally linked. In it, there is a section regarding your signature. You can edit your signature (best to use the “Treat signature as wikitext” option), so that whenever you click on the signature button, your custom signature shows up when published. Hope this helps, in case DavidB4 isn't around at the moment. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 16:54, 29 March 2020 (EDT)

::Thanks Liberaltears, yes that is correct. Under "Preferences," you can enter and alternative signature with options such as "font color." That's how I did it. There is no major reason I did this--it just makes it a little easier for me to find my signatures in large talk pages. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:33, 30 March 2020 (EDT)

== Hiding a revision from view... ==

Hi DavidB4, since you have an oversight tag, can you permanently hide one of the recent revisions on [[Wikipedia|this page]] made by a recent vandal? I know the username was hidden from view, but the revision (which can be accessed) isn't hidden and it contains an external link to an inappropriate site. Thanks! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 16:24, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

:In addition, can you also permanently and fully hide my revert of the vandalizing as well? I think it would be better to eliminate all possible publicity of the vandal. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 16:28, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::I think the vandal just made a sockpuppet. Since you have the check user tag, can you block the IP address of the vandal? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 16:32, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

:::I tired to oversight it, but got an error. I'm investigating. I'm also looking into the checkuser data. I probably should do another bot run to block a lot of these IPs. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:35, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::::Alright, thank you for trying the best you can, DavidB4! And good thing you saw my message here due to the seriousness of the vandalism! I really hope that no one ''(especially not a minor)'' had accessed the revision... And please report the IP address of the vandal to the authorities; whoever was behind it ought to get a harsh punishment! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 16:41, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

:::::You're welcome, and thanks for your help as well!
:::::They were attempting to anonymize themselves by hiding their IP address, but it looks like their real IP might have leaked through. I'm investigating further. It's rather humorous when that happens...people tend to use these tools without really understanding how they work, or their limitations. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:06, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::::::Alright, thank you for blocking the IP address! Just wondering though, do you think you'll be able to fully hide the revisions from view on [[Wikipedia|this page]] and [[China|this page]]? I know you mentioned an hour ago that there was an error in trying to oversight it. I hope I don't sound too impatient, it's just regarding the seriousness of the vandalism that's still accessible via the revisions. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 17:37, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

:::::::The tool to hide revisions is not working for me. I've contacted Andy about the probem, but for now, someone else might need to hide them. You could try asking someone like Andy or Karajou. Sorry I can't do more right now! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:41, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::::::::Alright, I just mentioned it on Andy's talk page [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Hiding_a_revision_from_view...|here]]. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 17:55, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::Question: How did the vandal get an account with the User name it had? Also, I suspect the clickbait link left behind would download some nasty malware. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|De Plorabus Unum]] 18:38, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::::::::::They didn't use your username...they used "RobSmiith" (note the two I's). Also, you are probably correct about malware. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:54, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::::::::I noticed that the revisions still aren't fully hidden from view. Does the oversight function work right now, DavidB4? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 21:23, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

---

:Andy's looking into it? Alright, well that's great to hear, as he didn't reply [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Hiding_a_revision_from_view...|here on his talk page]]. While I doubt that most people going on this site would file through the edit history, I'd say that it's better to hide it to ''ensure'' that nothing (accessible) on [[Conservapedia]] is linking to such inappropriate/obscene websites. Thank you DavidB4, I really appreciate your patience with this request! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 21:45, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::You're welcome! It could be that he didn't reply because he didn't want that info being posted publicly. Some things are better discussed over email. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:49, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

:::Oh yeah, I see your point. <satire because I currently need some humor to chill out after the serious vandalism>But then again, regarding emails, that isn't 100% safe, as Russians might hack the server, making Bleach Bit a necessary measure for mass-deleting emails while simultaneously smashing cell phones with a hammar concurrent with Comey's orders in summoning the FBI to raid on your basement, and then you're in a rush ordering out-of-state [[Arkancide]]s on witnesses to cover up Whitewater, the Haitian relief fund scam, Vince Foster, Seth Rich, Benghazi, etceter- oh wait, I just accidentally and irrevelantly summarized Hillary's crimes.</satire because I currently need humor to chill out after the serious vandalism> --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 22:08, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

::::Haha! Okay, that's a good point. I guess talk pages are a safer option. I'd rather not start down this path! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:57, 3 April 2020 (EDT)

== Question about image uploads... ==

Hi DavidB4, I have a question about image uploads regarding the types of images that can be uploaded. If an image is on, say, a political candidate's personal website and there's no specification that it can't be used, can it be uploaded into a file here on [[CP]]? And what about images on a political candidate's personal [[Facebook]] page? Thanks! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 11:13, 11 April 2020 (EDT)

:For images from a political candidate's website, we can probably use them under the Fair Use clause, but that tends to be a grey area. This is pretty much the same for their Facebook pages, although from Facebook, it can be more difficult to provide proper attribution. Unfortunately, it seems like "Fair Use" claims fall in a grey area, and there have been lawsuits for claiming "Fair Use" when the author disagrees. We can probably use images from both of these, but it would be preferable to get alternative images with clearly open licensing when possible. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:25, 12 April 2020 (EDT)

::Okay, thank you for the clarification, DavidB4! Also, just curious, did you see what I added in the CP Community Portal [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Fixing_a_mistake_using_the_Infobox_officeholder_template...|here]]? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 22:30, 12 April 2020 (EDT)

:::You're welcome, and thanks for checking! In regard to the template issue, I did see that discussion, but have not gotten the time to trouble-shoot the issue. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:03, 13 April 2020 (EDT)

::::Alright, thank you DavidB4! Once again, I appreciate all the help you offer! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 14:12, 13 April 2020 (EDT)

== Some questions... ==

Hello DavidB4, I have some questions. First, about [[User_talk:DavidB4#Hiding_a_revision_from_view...|this previous topic]], does the oversight function work now? And even if it still may not work, is it possible to simply delete the log details for the revisions like [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] and [[User:Wikignome72|Wikignome72]] have done before? Second, it's been over a month since the preview option for editing works the way it has always been prior to when it became as dysfunctional as the 112th United States Congress. Is there a specific problem regarding that that needs to be resolved, and will it be fixed anytime soon? Third, did you see [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#McSally_Derangement_Syndrome|this small section]] I added in [[CP:COMPORT]]? I'm mostly hoping for a reply from a sysop or assistant sysop just to get an idea on whether the topic is a great idea or not. Fourth, about [[CP]] settings, I noticed that in the "Preferences", a set preferred gender would be public information, although I can't figure out how the details can be accessed by anyone going on this site, and I'm kind of curious about where the information is. Fifth, about [[Special:SpecialPages|special pages]], is there a source code for them likewise for normal pages? In addition, I noticed that for all [[CP]] pages whose URL that follows as "conservapedia.com/index.php?title=(etc.)" can't normally be internally linked, although they can be internally linked on special pages. Thanks! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 22:09, 4 May 2020 (EDT)

:Good questions.
#It does not seem to be fixed. I cannot delete log details, either...I get an error when I try. Something appears to be a little broken. You could try asking one of them to try doing it, and see if it works for them.
#I also am having difficulty with preview. This may be be a side effect of the poor server responsiveness we've been having lately. Andy is trying to resolve that problem. I'm hoping once that is fixed, preview will resume working reliably as well. I can't say for sure, though...I don't have access to the hosting server.
#I had not seen it. I posted a short reply.
#I don't think this info is deliberately published anywhere. However, you can reference that info with something like <code><nowiki>{{GENDER:DavidB4|male|female|unknown}}</nowiki></code> you will see: {{GENDER:DavidB4|male|female|unknown}}
#I don't think there is page code available for these special pages. They are generated dynamically by the server. Of course, there is still HTML and CSS code, and some scripts, as with any page on the web (in most browsers, press F12 to see that). I know that's not what you are looking for, though.
#I've noticed that issue too, so I just make those external links. I don't know why it happens, but I don't have the ability to do troubleshooting on the server, so I just work around the problem.
:Unfortunately there are some minor issues which we might just need to live with for the time being. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:48, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

::Thank you very much, DavidB4! And speaking of #4, I noticed that there is no official template associated with the function, neither is there one for DEFAULTSORT. Is there a reason for such? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 01:18, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

:::Yes, those functions are packaged in the wiki's base software. For these, no template pages are required since the software already knows what to do with them. These are called "magic words", and there are actually quite a number of them. A current list is available [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words here], although we are using an older version of the software, so a few of the newest "magic words" may not be supported here. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:47, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

::::Seems very interesting. Thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 14:02, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::You're welcome! Sorry I couldn't help more with some of those points. For reference, we are using Wikimedia version 1.24, so on that list of magic words, any item listed for versions newer than this will probably not be supported. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:31, 5 May 2020 (EDT)

== Freddy Kita page, etc. ==

Hi DavidB4, did you see the [[Freddy Kita|this page]] and the notice I put on it? I also notified the user on their talk page [[User talk:Medinfo|here]]. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 22:58, 12 May 2020 (EDT)

:Also, another problem. [[Special:Contributions/NoMoreFakeNews|This user]] is edit warring on [[Michael Steele|this page]], adding in information that is quite unnoteworthy (Steele may currently be an [[anti-Trump]] commentator, although that is much less important than his previous [[conservative]] leadership; thus, the former [[RNC]] chairman can somewhat be compared to [[Barry Goldwater]]). The user first added info that was uncited, and after I reverted it, he then reverted that (edit warring), and in the description then only provided a source URL while falsely accusing me of being a [[liberal]]. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 01:33, 13 May 2020 (EDT)

::I noticed the Freddy Kita issue, and figured I would give this editor a few days to reply. This should be dealt with, though, so I did just add a note and a deletion template. In regard to Michael Steele, I think this issue might be worth noting somewhere in the article, perhaps under the "Opposition to Donald Trump" section. While it is only a small exchange of words, it does demonstrate his opposition to Trump and Trump's supporters, and his "establishment" mindset. McConnell did make a good point...historically, past presidents have not criticized their successors in public, out of respect for the office and their colleagues. That is, until Trump came along. Now for some reason it is perfectly acceptable for them to go around speaking ill of a successor. Obama is once again breaking that unwritten rule with a vengeance. When McConnell called him out for it, Steele attacked him. This means that Steele is so hateful towards Trump that he supports a past president attacking a sitting president, in contrary with standard professional behavoir. Considering the fact that even McConnell isn't always as conservative as we would like (although he has been a good supporter of Trump), this is an interesting exchange.
::NoMoreFakeNews should have included this reference initially though, and edit warring with you about it is not okay. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 11:49, 13 May 2020 (EDT)

:::Ah, I see what you mean. I initially asserted that the information wasn't noteworthy largely because Steele's current influence as a [[Never Trumper]] doesn't mean very much compared to him previously being a [[conservative]] leader of the [[Republican party]]. I also noticed in the [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Michael_Steele&action=history page history here] that despite Steele having been [[anti-Trump]] for about four years now, no other CP editors really bothered to mention much about it, not even [[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]]. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 12:19, 13 May 2020 (EDT)

::::Yes, in the grand political landscape, it is rather insignificant. I just think it might be worth noting that fact about Steele himself, as a reference of character (or lack thereof). The fact no one has bothered with him lately does in itself say something... --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 12:40, 13 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::Alright, I added the detail. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User talk:Liberaltears|Your reminder that Biden committed quid pro joe]]''''' 13:04, 13 May 2020 (EDT)

::::::Looks good, thank you! I left a note for the other user, too. [[User talk:NoMoreFakeNews]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:18, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::::You're welcome DavidB4! Also, I don't know if you saw it, but there was a wave of vandalism earlier today that I had to deal with, and while [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] did block two one vandal and remove the username of another, [[Special:Contributions/Adam72|this presumed sockpuppet]] has yet to be blocked, and I created [[Template:Protection request|this template]] as well as [[:Category:Protection requests|this category]] out of the fact that at least two pages were being vandalized and edit warred over by idiotic trolls. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 19:56, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

Yes, I noticed some of it. I wasn't sure if Adam72 was actually trying to do something productive, or just vandalizing. It certainly wasn't a helpful edit. As for the protection template and category, I would caution not to go too far in that direction. Perhaps a few pages more should be protected, but not many. Protection can prevent vandals from attacking one specific page, but most of the time, they will just vandalize something else if they can't do that page. It doesn't stop the problem, just relocates it. Meanwhile, legitimate editors can't edit those pages either. Page protection has been a significant problem for me, since many pages have been put under infinite protection either because they were vandalized once or twice, or they just seemed like things someone didn't think would need to edited again soon. The only thing harder to get than page protection, is getting a page unprotected. I have lists of pages and files which I want to edit, but cannot, because they are locked to the full administrator level. I'm not saying that page protection doesn't have its place, just that it should be used very sparingly. I also then to think that when a page is protected in response to vandalism, it should have an expiration date. Maybe 6 months, maybe even 2 or more years, but I think the default in most cases should be that they ultimately become unlocked again. We can't protect every page that might be vandalized and still expect our content to stay up to date. 
Pardon the rant...I think this can be used beneficially, but it should be done sparingly. This is in large part why I made Minuteman. It can deal with vandalism wherever it occurs, by blocking the offending user and reverting the unwanted edits. However, at Andy's request, it has been offline recently to slightly reduce server load while we sort out that problem. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:53, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

:Almost four years ago, we discussed this problem. Andy, several admins, several SysOps (including myself) and several other editors all agreed that we had a problem with too many pages being locked. Andy suggested that I create a category, which we could use to tag pages which had no real need to be locked, so they could be easily identified and unlocked. I did ([[:Category:Pages Proposed For Unlocking]]), and for the first few days, it worked...some pages were unlocked so they could be updated. But then, it died out and no one was unlocking pages any more. Eventually, people stopped tagging them, since it wasn't doing any good. Maybe I will try reminding people of that, but it probably won't go anywhere. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:04, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

::Ah I see. And about [[Special:Contributions/Adam72|Adam72]], I'm pretty sure the user is a sockpuppet of [[Special:Contributions/AdamEve|AdamEve]], as the edits made on the same page were very similar, and the latter account vandalized other pages as well. Can you check the IP addresses of the users just to make sure? Thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 21:33, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

:::Oh yes, good point about Adam72. They used a different IP to evade the block, but obviously it is the same person. I should have looked more closely. I blocked them. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:40, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

::::Alright, thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 21:43, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::You're welcome, and thanks for pointing it out! By the way, it looks like I made a special request for a few of those pages to be unlocked, which Andy did. Then Karajou unlocked some as well. Perhaps I spoke too soon...I was pleasantly surprised to find that several have been taken care of. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:50, 16 May 2020 (EDT)

== Can't figure out how to fix [[Template:Infobox officeholder/Personal data]]... ==

Hi DavidB4, can you help me fix [[Template:Infobox officeholder/Personal data]], specifically with the "Military Service" section? The only possible way that I could get an idea of how to improve it was to examine the source code of [[Template:Officeholder|this template]], and the only way to check whether the modified version works or not was to open a new tab, open up [[CP]], and enter in a page where the template is being transcluded into ''in addition to'' the "Military Section" section (I checked via the [[Don Bolduc]] page). A while ago, I asked [[User:TerryH|TerryH]] on his talk page [[User_talk:TerryH#Template_usage_help...|here]], but he never responded. Only very recently did I just figure out the exact problem only with what was wrong, and I asked Andy ([[User_talk:Aschlafly#Improvising_a_protected_template|here]]) to do a very specific edit on the then-protected template, but Andy just unprotected it for me to to edit, and I got somewhat frustrated yesterday trying to get everything to work well. The colored cell surrounding the text would initially work, but wouldn't extend all the way across to the right. I then fixed that, but couldn't remove the extraneous pipe character in front of "Military service". Right now, I just want to the increase the font size for "Military Service" without also effective the font size for the details below and remove the unnecessary pipe. Do you think you can help me with that? The revision history [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_officeholder/Personal_data&action=history here] might help give an idea as to what I was intending to do but made mistakes on. Once again, I really appreciate all the help you can offer, and thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 12:24, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

:Hmm... That ''is'' a problem. I'm really not very good at editing templates. I wonder if the problem might have something to do with the <code><nowiki>{{!-}}</nowiki></code> on line 177. I think it is supposed to be <code><nowiki>{{!}}-</nowiki></code>, but making that change did not resolve this issue. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:16, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

::Ah, I see. Well, thank you for trying to improvise it. I'll probably further examine the template source codes later. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 14:21, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

:::I will try to spend more time on it later as well. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:44, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

::::Great news! Taking a cue from [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Officeholder&action=edit this template's source code], it turned out that the extraneous pipe resulted from <code><nowiki>{{!}}</nowiki></code>, so I removed it and added <code><nowiki> </nowiki></code>. So now I'm just hoping to increase the text size only for “Military Service”, and potentially lighten the cell color if need be to match with the officeholder cell color for the overall template. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 22:57, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::Nice job! I've slightly increased the text size, also. I don't know how big you are thinking, though. Also, I'm not sure what color it is you are trying to match with. I don't see a color on the base template, so I didn't make any changes to that yet. It should be fairly easy to do. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:54, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

::::::Thanks! And about the color matching, I was referring to the cell color surrounding the text of office titles. While there aren't any such cells for the [[Donald Bolduc]] page, there are for pages like [[John Neely Kennedy|this one]], and I'll most likely try lightening the color for the cell surrounding the "Military Service" text. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 15:00, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

::::::Unfortunately, there is another problem arising. Where the "Military Service" used to only show up for infobox officeholder templates only if certain details are specified, now it always shows up for every page with the template. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 15:02, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::::Yes, I noticed that issue. It looks like a conditional show statement broke. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:06, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

::::::::Good thing I just fixed it. The problem arose out of the fact that <code><nowiki>!colspan="2" style="background:#E5CDFF;font-size=115%"{{!}}<big>Military Service</big></nowiki></code> was outside the <code><nowiki>{{#ifeq:}}</nowiki></code>, so I simply put it in there. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 15:09, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::Ah yes, there it is! Nice catch. I just matched the background color, also. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:13, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

::::::::::Nice! Just to note, and I should have specified, I was thinking of making the background color more of a tint of purple to match the lightness of the #E6E6FA, though I can adjust it easily. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 15:16, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::::Oh, Ok. Feel free to adjust it as you want. I'll try to avoid stepping on your toes. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:47, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

== DavidB4-bot replacing ’ with ' ==

Hi DavidB4, I'm just curious, why is your bot replacing ’ with ' when it comes to apostrophes? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 21:44, 19 May 2020 (EDT)

:It's a minor thing, but the ’ is an [[ASCII]] character, while the ' is [[unicode]]. When it comes to fonts, the ASCII apostrophe is sometimes displayed oddly by some software, while the unicode one typically looks as it should. For example, Apple and Microsoft differ in how this is displayed, but they agree on how the unicode one is shown. Therefore, the unicode one is generally favored. Some search engine spiders allegedly prefer unicode, thus ranking pages which use the unicode ones higher (of course, search engines try not to tell all their secrets though, so it's hard to be sure) than pages using the ASCII version. I know they look very similar, but if you look at [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Maggie_Hassan&action=history edits when this change is made], you will see that a few [[Byte|bytes]] have been removed from the page. This is because unicode uses a smaller reference number for it than ASCII does. Here is an article which touches on the topic, in case you want a better explanation.: [https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/ucs/quotes.html]
:I don't mind if the "wrong" (ASCII) one is used, but since the bot is semi-automated anyway, I figure it might as well change them when it notices them. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:07, 19 May 2020 (EDT)

::Ah, interesting. I tend to prefer using ‘’ and “” over <nowiki>''</nowiki> and "" respectively largely because the former apostrophe/quotation marks specify which to use for beginning and which for closing. Also, speaking of byte count, why does – and — take up three bytes each? And how come wikifying a link (adding two brackets on each side = +4) sometimes only nets +3 bytes in an edit, as seen [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mitch_McConnell&diff=1626725&oldid=1626724 here] ([https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mitch_McConnell&action=history page history])? --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 23:23, 19 May 2020 (EDT)

:::Yes, it seems to me that those should be the standard ones to use, but they are not. Unless everyone agrees to make the ASCII characters uniform between platforms, or adds more unicode characters, it looks like we are stuck with this issue.
:::Dashes and hyphens are each a single (Unicode, I think) digit code. Therefore, although the binary bits are different, there are the same number of them since the same character size is allocated either way.
:::As for the four brackets only adding 3 bytes...I don't know, that is odd. I'd never noticed that before, but now you've got me wondering. Typically one character takes up one byte, so I would generally expect a byte count like that to be due to another character (such as a space) being removed. Since that doesn't seem to be happening here, I don't think I have an explanation. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:58, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

::::I see. Thank you DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 01:19, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

== Restricting editing to "autoconfirmed" doesn't deter vandalism ==

Hi again DavidB4, I just thought it's important to note that protecting pages to the "autoconfirmed" level doesn't seem to prevent vandalism at all. After, all, [[Wikipedia|this page]] was still blanked by a troll who had created their account just the minute previous. Is there any way to raise the bar in order for users to be "autoconfirmed"? Or is there a protection level that would allow editing only if users have any additional tags such as SkipCaptcha? That way, all genuine editors who are granted a "SkipCaptcha" can edit such pages. Thanks! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 13:02, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

:By the way, do you think there's any chance that Andy might grant me additional tags anytime soon? Sometimes I'm able to revert vandalism caused by idiotic trolls before any other editor gets to it, so a "Block" tag could be useful there. Also, [[Special:Contributions/Jackmann|this troll]] that I just mentioned hasn't been blocked yet. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 13:20, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

::I just blocked them--thanks for the quick response there. I agree, the autoconfirm system isn't very effective right now. I don't know for this version specifically, but I did [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Locking_my_user_page|post on Andy's page]] a little while ago about how you would typically change autoconfirm protection settings. However, that is something only someone with filesystem access can do. As for blocking privileges, I would not be surprised if you got them fairly soon. However, such privileges cannot usually be requested. All I can say is keep at it, and you will probably get them eventually. There is no published criteria for promotion, so that's about the best I can say. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:41, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

:::I'm working on adding something to Minutman which should help with the server load concern. I'm hoping to bring it back online soon. That should help some. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:42, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

::::Ah, I see. Thank you once again, DavidB4! --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 13:49, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

:::::Any time! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:17, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

== Anti-vandalism suggestion ==

Hi DavidB4, I have a suggestion that could potentially be effective in stopping vandalism. You mentioned [[Conservapedia:Image_upload_requests#Request_to_change_title_of_article|here]] that one of your bots is set to inform you via email whenever the move or delete template is used on [[CP]]. Is it possible to set that bot to alert you such that an edit is made by any user who, when published that edit, had less than 100 previous edits? That way, new accounts created merely to vandalize this site can quickly be spotted. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 01:49, 7 June 2020 (EDT)

:Hi, so you are thinking that anytime a user with less that 100 contributions makes an edit, I get an email? If I understood you correctly, that seems like it would get very noisy. If I was was able to check on every one of those, it could help. However, that seems like something which would just become too time consuming. In any case, I'm currently having difficulty pulling a user's edit count using a bot, so I can't base anything on this statistic, right now. I am hoping to find a way to do it at some point, but haven't had the time to troubleshoot the issue. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:43, 7 June 2020 (EDT)

::Oh, I see the problem with the email load. So here's a (great) satirical joke idea: you can make an extra super-intelligent bot, connect it to your email in addition to the same bleach-bitting thing [[Hillary Clinton]]'s email server uses; that way, it can automatically analyze the emails your bot sends to you and mass-delete if need be on its superintelligence and ability to analyze whether the edits should be further examined or not. --[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|Just say no to quid pro joe!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Free Roger Stone!]]''''' 17:54, 7 June 2020 (EDT)

:::Well that got complicated quickly...haha! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:22, 16 June 2020 (EDT)

== I put this message on ProgressingAmerica's talk page ==

I put the below message on [[User talk:Progressingamerica]]:

I am glad you liked my idea for a Conservapedia chat area.

I suggest getting together with [[User:DavidB4]] who is technically knowlegeable/adept.

Maybe he would be willing to help you set up a Conservapedia [https://discord.com/ Discord] channel.

Once it is set up, I can advertise it in appropriate areas at Conservapedia (front page, relevant articles on Conservapedia at Conservapedia.

DavidB4 set up a IRC chat channel, but I don't think IRC is as good as Discord (but I could be wrong about this matter).

I would learn Discord myself, but I am pressed for time at this time due to off wiki affairs.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:24, 16 June 2020 (EDT)

:Yes, if we want such a thing, I can help. I'm just unsure as to whether it will actually be used. We could try it, but as you mentioned, the IRC channel never really got used. One other catch--[https://archive.is/hGtDw Discord is liberal], like most tech companies. They may kick us out if they don't like what we have to say. We could try something from the "ant-media" like Gab Chat, but I think that only supports chromium browsers at the moment, which could be inconvenient to some people. I don't know if there are other good options. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:27, 16 June 2020 (EDT)
::Maybe it will be used. I don't know. I am going to be busy off wiki so I will not use it. I am just being frank about this. I don't want to give the impression that will use it. I might have used it earlier, but I am busy off wiki at this period in my life.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:49, 16 June 2020 (EDT)
:::Andy Schafly, might want [https://telegram.org/ Telegram] to be used instead for a chat channel because it sounds more mainstream than Discord. But I really don't know much about Discord and Telegram as far as their pros and cons.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:14, 17 June 2020 (EDT)
::::I've heard good things about Telegram, but never used it. They [https://gizmodo.com/why-you-should-stop-using-telegram-right-now-1782557415 don't use E2E encryption by default] but many platforms don't, including Discord. Since we are looking for a space to carry on public discussion, I don't think that will be a concern. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 11:48, 17 June 2020 (EDT)

== Questions about Conservapedia functions, etc. ==

Hi DavidB4, I have some questions about the [[Conservapedia]] system regarding some functions whose associated rights I don't yet have. I was reading this [[Special:ListGroupRights|special page on user rights]] and it said that anyone with the "protect" tag can edit cascade-protected pages. So if understand correctly, does it mean, for example, if Template:A transcluded into Template:B and the latter was fully protected with the "cascading" option set on, then anyone with the "protect" tag can edit Template:A so long as it isn't fully protected itself? Also, about the oversight ability to hide usernames, is the action reversable? [[Conservapedia:Oversight|This page]] says that revisions hidden through oversighting can be restored by a developer, but does this apply to usernames, and what counts as a developer? I had asked Karajou [[User_talk:Karajou#Hiding_revisions_on_two_CP_pages|here]] a month ago regarding trying to hide the vandalized revisions left by the two troll accounts who posted the links to obscene websites, but he said that he couldn't restore the usernames in any way. In addition, about "rollback", is there anything special about getting the tag? From what I know in terms of having reverted messes left by vandals, all one really needs to do is click on the most recent non-vandalized revision, click "Edit", and save the page. Thank you DavidB4!

Also, taking a cue from the way you changed the font color for your signature, I was finally able to figure out the correct formatting to change the font color on [[United States Senate election in Maine, 2020|this page]], and I do appreciate all the help you offered [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Changing_font_colors...|here]]! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]]''''' 23:29, 17 June 2020 (EDT)

:Hi Liberaltears,
:In regard to protect, that is essentially correct. Any content which is given cascading protection and then included on another page, will carry that protection with it. So if Template:A is given cascading protection, then it is included on Template:B, PageA, and PageB, all three would inherit the same protection as Template:A. This can be problematic in many cases, so it is rarely used. The "Protect" privilege enables the option to add protection to a page, but only to a level which that user can still edit it. So I have the "protect" tag, but I do not have the "Administrator" tag. I can protect pages to the next level down (Autoconfirmed) and I can edit such protection as well. However, I cannot protect a page to the Administrator level, since I do not have that tag. I also cannot edit any page protected to that level, or change that protection.
:Oversight has never really worked for me. However, my understanding is that those with the "Oversight" tag can hide usernames and edits, but not restore them. I believe there is a way to restore this later, but I don't know who can do that. Perhaps only Andy is able. You might be able to learn more about it here: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Oversight]
:[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Rollback Rollback] makes it a one-click operation to revert a series of unwanted edits to a page. It adds a link to the Recent Changes page, which can be clicked to revert all edits by that user to that page. You can do the same thing without it using the steps you described, this just makes it a little easier to do.

:I'm glad to hear you were able to get that font fixed, too! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:51, 17 June 2020 (EDT)

::Thank you for the explanation, DavidB4! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]]''''' 23:56, 17 June 2020 (EDT)

::By the way, I had also noticed that "Siteadmin", "check user", and "oversight" abilities aren't included in "Administrator" privileges. Is there a specific reason for that? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]]''''' 23:59, 17 June 2020 (EDT)

:::You're welcome! I don't really know, but my guess would be that these abilities were added on top of the base wiki capabilities. I'm pretty sure that "check user" is provided by a Wiki plugin, and I think "Siteadmin" is a custom tag. I thought oversight came with the base wiki software, but perhaps it is an addon as well. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:09, 18 June 2020 (EDT)

::::Ah, I see. And thank you once again! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]]''''' 00:10, 18 June 2020 (EDT)

==Tag-team editing==
Hi, David. Thanks for [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Dropbox&curid=160189&diff=1664410&oldid=1664284 this edit] to [[Dropbox]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 20:32, 2 July 2020 (EDT)

:Hi Ed, happy to help--thanks for creating it! I was a little surprised that we didn't have articles on things like Dropbox and Google Drive. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:48, 3 July 2020 (EDT)

==Christianity by Continent Category==

Hi David. I created some brief articles on Christianity by Continent such as: https://www.conservapedia.com/Christianity_in_Africa I want to add a Category called "Christianity by Continent" uniting this with Christianity in (1) Asia (2) Europe, (3) North America (4) South America and (5) Australia

Can you please do that, or can I do it myself. I added the see also links and other things in the page itself. I wasn't sure about the category thing.

Take care and God Bless,
Nishant Xavier. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]][[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]] 00:28, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

P.S. I also want to create a Christianity by category sub-category which I hope will include all countries of all continents. Andy also asked me to work on a project which I hope to begin tomorrow; and I need to at least have the basic template of this up before we can successfully begin Project 150 MN [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]][[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]] 00:30, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

:Hi Nishant, I'd be happy to help! One thing I'm not quite certain about first, though. Do you think these articles should be considered (almost entirely) christian history, or will there be a fair amount of modern info as well? I see on the Africa one, there is a sizable piece on modern Christianity, but some others seem to focus on the past. I just want to make sue before I go ahead with adding them. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:46, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

Hi David! I plan for them to be a complete compendium of everything that pertains to Christianity on that Continent. The Africa model is more like what the others will look like when they are finished. Beginning with the history to be sure, but a lot of focus on the current Christian Demographics on that Continent. So the articles will be progressively improved going forward. Hope that clears it up. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]][[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]] 01:56, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

:Yes, that's good to know, and sounds like a good plan! I've added two categories to each, "Christianity by Continent" (which links them to "Christianity") and the continent's category. Does that look good? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:57, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

Hi David. It looks great thanks. I saw that Asia alone had to be added and seeing how you added to the other continents, I added the one for Asia. So it's all done now. Thanks again and hope all is well, David. God Bless. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]][[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]] 22:53, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

:Ah yes, it looks like I missed that one for some reason. Thanks! Just one other comment, category names should generally be capitalized, except for conjunctions. So, I renamed [[:Category:Christianity by country]] as [[:Category:Christianity by Country]]. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:54, 14 July 2020 (EDT)

Thanks again David for your help. I think it's all good now. I want to create articles for Christianity in every country (and only about 3 or 4 are done so far, out of 203 - so 200 more to go!) and some other things like the historical list of Popes for whom also there are nearly 200 entries vacant right now. So that will keep me busy for some time. CP should cross 50,000 pages soon. I'll be sure to ask if anything comes up. God Bless you. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]][[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]] 00:24, 15 July 2020 (EDT)

:It sounds like you have a lot to do! Okay, well thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:25, 15 July 2020 (EDT)

== Question about [[:File:Andrew Romanoff.jpg]] ==

Hi DavidB4, I noticed in [[:File:Andrew Romanoff.jpg|this file]] you uploaded that the page apparently doesn't exist, with a "Create" option appearing on the top right. I'm just curious, how is that possible? Usually when a file is uploaded, the action is listed in the revision history of the page, though there apparently isn't a revision history for the file. I also noticed that on the bottom of the page, it doesn't say how many times the page was accessed. Does this has to do with the fact that the page is empty in terms of bytes? Thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]]''''' 12:42, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

:Well that's odd. Yes, I suppose it must not count as a page if there is no text. I always add text to uploads though, so I don't know how that happened. Anyway, I added basic source info--I'm glad you pointed that out! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:00, 17 July 2020 (EDT)
::Okay, thank you DavidB4! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]]''''' 15:18, 17 July 2020 (EDT)

== Question ==

Hi DavidB4, there's something I ought to ask you about; is there any way for you to email [[User:BHathorn|BHathorn]]? The reason I'm asking this is because I have replied to his questions and issues but he doesn't respond back most of the time, and I have no idea if he ever sees what I say or not. After he created [[R. Harmon Drew, Sr.|this page]] that contained invisible characters which were encoded into the URL, BHathorn created [[R._Harmon_Drew,_Sr.|this duplicate page]] asking what happened. This type of problem was already discussed on [[CP:IUR]] after he had added a move request there, but I'm not sure if he saw our responses or not. If you can email him, can you please tell him that I answered his question the best I could on that duplicate page? I saw that he has made edits after my response, so I'm not sure if BHathorn may have just forgotten to check back on that. Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Thursday, 20:25, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

I'm also not sure if BHathorn may have just saw the message and didn't have anything to reply in particular. I do know that he did once reply to a message I put on his talk page [[User_talk:BHathorn#Template:Infobox_officeholder_updated|here]]. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Thursday, 20:28, 5 August 2020 (EDT)

:Hi, unfortunately I do not have an email address for BHathorn. I guess you could try posing on his talk page though, since that generates an alert. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:03, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

::I've posted messages on BHathorn's talk page, but I'm really unsure if he either ignores them now or reads them but just doesn't respond. I've noticed several times that he tends to post questions and requests for actions he doesn't have permissions for (such as moving pages), but doesn't respond to the thread most of the time. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 19:07, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Yes, I've noticed the same. I've kind of assumed that he does see, but just doesn't reply. I'm not sure though. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:49, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

::::By the way, those are interesting userboxes you created. :) --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:57, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::Thanks! Are you referring to the two most recent userbox templates I created regarding my irritation over the server errors/bad gateways? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Sunday, 22:58, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::Yes, the ones about the 5xx errors. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:47, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

== Question about certain files ==

Hi DavidB4, I have a question about certain files and their properties when used as thumbnails. So when I was adding an image for the [[United States Senate elections, 2020]] page [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=United_States_Senate_elections,_2020&diff=1675122&oldid=1675121 here] for the South Dakota section, I was trying to adjust the size of [[:File:M. Michael Rounds.gif]] to 200px, but noticed that the image size didn't change (see comparison between [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=United_States_Senate_elections,_2020&diff=1675121&oldid=1675120#South_Dakota here] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=United_States_Senate_elections,_2020&diff=1675122&oldid=1675121#South_Dakota here]). Is there a specific reason for this? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 22:52, 7 August 2020 (EDT)

:I think typically, 200px is the default display size. You can check what your account is set to use [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering here]. If your thumbnail size is set to 200 (which is most likely is) then adding the 200px variable will not change anything for you. Maybe try a larger size? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:07, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

::Okay, I'll try that. Thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 19:49, 8 August 2020 (EDT)

== Really strange occurrence ==

Hi DavidB4, there's something really strange that happened that I need to ask you about. For some weird reason, I'm unable to access [[User:Liberaltears/Images_to_request_for_uploading|this user subpage of mine]], with a pop-up saying that "Access to this page is forbidden". I don't get it; what's going on? Is it a server/system error or did someone lock me out of accessing the page? Thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday, 21:48, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

:Hmm... That's not supposed to happen. We are trying to fix the current 500 error issues, so this might be an accidental side affect of the tinkering in the background. I'll see what I can find out. I'm sure it's nothing personal, or intentional. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:57, 9 August 2020 (EDT)

::I still think these 500 error issues (in addition to a "401 administrator" error that also popped up earlier this morning) may be the result of a DOS attack on this site. My thought here is that some determined trolls may be trying to attack the site to deny access to it because, to put it simply, they hate us, they hate and fear the truth and they hate and fear the messages and info we try to deliver with the site and its articles. If this weren't the case, then we wouldn't be on those trolls' radar and they wouldn't be trying to pull these stunts to keep people who want to see this site from seeing it and learning that Wikipedia and the liberal media are not what its supporters and apologists play them (or what they try to pass off as "factual" information and "news") up to be. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 09:29, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

:::What I saw earlier this morning (around three hours ago) was more of a "400 page doesn't exist" type of error; I have no idea what happened, and I was worried out of apprehension for a while that this site may have been permanently taken down or something. What I wanted to mention here yesterday night in response to DavidB4's reply was cut short by a 500 ISE that lasted for about half an hour to forty minutes, then the entirety of the site had access restricted to certain administrators. Personally, I was worried that the reason I was blocked off from accessing my user subpage initially may have had something to do with being a bit too incessant with pleading for upload rights to Andy, or maybe it had something to do with the nasty disputes with RobSmith/VargasMilan/Shobson20, but it could've very well been hackers who are deranged commies. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday, 10:28, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Conservative said [[User:Conservative/mail#These_500_Errors_are_intolerable|here]] that he thinks the server issues could've been caused by high web traffic. I really have doubts over that, because if such high web traffic was the case, then a 500 ISE would show up, blocking people from accessing this site. Thus the server then has no viewers to handle with and the problem shouldn't take half an hour to resolve. Besides, I haven't seen page views climb exceedingly; even while I've been working really hard (as in possibly sometimes spending 90-100 minutes at a time on a computer screen) on [[United_States_Senate_elections,_2020|this page]] with many edits, the page views hasn't jumped by more than 1,000 in the past few days. I do hope that with good efforts and more hard work, 10,000 views can be reached in the next few days for that. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday, 10:38, 10 August 2020 (EDT)

::::Yeah, the errors are site-wide. Some people have been trying to fix it, with varied success so far. The original announcement was that it was due to heavy traffic or a DDoS attack, and that probably is part of it, but my suspicion is that there is a bug somewhere in the wiki itself or its database, which is perhaps being exacerbated by high load. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:16, 11 August 2020 (EDT)

It's always up for 30 minutes, then down for 40. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 20:46, 14 August 2020 (EDT)
:At least you can access this site. The only reason I'm here is because of a web proxy (sorry about temporarily violating [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member_Accounts|the guidelines]]), because over the last few days, a "403 - Forbidden" notice would pop up every time I try opening CP; I got so confused and puzzled over this that I created an account on RW (very hesitantly) just so I could ask RobSmith what was going on. And I still don't know the answer to the latter. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 21:47, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

:Also, if there's really no other way to get on here, do you suppose it's okay to use a proxy to get on CP here for now, at least until "403 - Forbidden" notices stop popping up for me? I really have almost nothing better to do aside from CP editing. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 21:51, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

::Email DavidB4 at davidb4p-2154@archnet.us and give him your external IP address and get him to tell the system to stop blocking it. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 22:45, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Can't DavidB4 just use check user to find out the IP address I normally use? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 22:50, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

::::LT, I can't believe that was you; I figured it to be just another of Ace's socks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]] 23:35, 14 August 2020 (EDT)
::::Anyway I got 3 day block for talking about KKKommie-la. Anything that doesn't toe the party line is racist, misogynist, and reborn birtherism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Trump 2Q2Q]] 23:39, 14 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::Yeah, unfortunately for now, the only way I can edit is through [https://www.kproxy.com/ this proxy], which allows me to bypass the "403 - Forbidden" errors but not the "500 - Internal Server Errors"; that at least allows me to access this site. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 00:34, 15 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::It looks like my reply was lost when this site was being upgraded to a new server. In case you didn't see my reply, I posted that I had gotten your IP, and ensured that it was unblocked. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:57, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::The problem is that I'm still unable to access CP normally because of "403 - Forbidden" pop-ups. Since you're a tech expert, do you suppose it could have something to do with something on my end, such as the IP address I normally use and the WiFi associated with it that I'm connected to? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday, 01:03, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

Still?? Hmmm...that shouldn't be happening. Since my last post a couple days ago, all IPs should have been unblocked. Do I assume correctly that you tried the usual process of clearing your cookies and browser cache, and connecting in with Private Browsing? 
I grabbed the IP address you have been using up until August 10th. Since then, you've been connecting in from a lot of different IPs, probably from your proxy service...unfortunately, I can't tell for sure which one(s) used since then are your real IP. If clearing your browser doesn't work, could you get your external IP (using a service like this: https://www.whatsmyip.org ) and send it to me either via email, or using [https://l.archnet.us/emaildavidb4cp this form] (no email address required for that)? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:16, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

:It's important to flush the entire browser cache history if errors are still occurring, or try to access from a new browser than you have not used.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 01:29, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

::Andy, I just cleared my browser of the cache history and opened a new window, but that didn't stop the pop-up. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday, 01:41, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Liberaltears, I got your message. Would it be convenient for you to try accessing CP from another internet connection using the same computer you are currently having issues from? I expect it will work to do this, but if it doesn't that might help us nail down the issue. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:18, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

::::I unfortunately don't have access to other internet connections at the moment. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday, 10:41, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::Hmm...Okay. Well I'm at a bit of a loss. Andy says all the IP blocks have been cleared, so the only reason I can think of that you would still be blocked is that somewhere, something is cached which should not be. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:38, 26 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::Another pretty basic suggestion: did you try using a different browser altogether? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:27, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::I just tried directly accessing CP with two other browsers, but neither have worked. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 22:33, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::::Interesting. Okay, I have a couple more another harebrained suggestions. If you want, first try clearing your PC's DNS cache. On Windows, you can do this by opening Command Prompt, and typing in "ipconfig /flushdns" (without the quotes) and pressing enter. If you still can't access CP after that, next try setting a custom DNS server in your operating system or browser. Since the process differs from one browser to another, it might be easiest to set it in your operating system. If this doesn't work, it's easy to undo. [https://pchelp.ricmedia.com/set-custom-dns-servers-windows/ Here is a guide] for setting it up on Windows. I would suggest using Cloudflare for this purpose (1.1.1.1 & 1.0.0.1) although there and other good options out there, like OpenDNS (208.67.222.222 & 208.67.220.220). Once set, clear your system's DNS cache again, and see if that works. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:49, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::::I tried the first suggestion, but it didn't work. Regarding the second idea, it was somewhat confusing, and I'm not sure if I did it right, but it didn't work either. I'm just wondering though, why would such an error even occur in the first place? That type of problem never happened for me before the server problems that started showing up around four weeks ago. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 23:19, 28 August 2020 (EDT)

Yeah, sorry about that...it's not a very intuitive process. They don't expect average users to be tinkering with that. 
The answer to your question is somewhat complicated, but I will do my best to explain it. When CP changed over to its new server, the website's IP address changed. So, the domain name record was updated. This means that when you try going to "conservapedia.com," your browser retrieves the new server's IP, rather than the old one. It then connects to that IP address, and the average user is none the wiser that anything has changed. However, the domain name system is a complicated network of servers and caches, so it can take a little time for everyone to get the update. There are also safeguards in place to prevent anyone from being out of date for too long, typically. My thinking here is that perhaps your computer still has the old IP address, rather than the new one. This could happen for a few reasons, but realistically shouldn't happen for anywhere near this much time. Theoretically, your computer itself could have the old address cached. This means that it wouldn't even bother to ask anyone where to look for "conservapedia.com," but rather just go to where it always goes (which has recently become incorrect). However, there is an expiration date attached to that DNS record, so typically within a week, your computer will decide it is time to go ask someone else if the site has moved. (We forced it to do this, by clearing your DNS cache.) It gets an update by sending a request to your local DNS server, which is typically run by your internet service provider (ISP). Your ISP then in turn looks up that information from more authoritative source of information (ultimately an internet root server, although they may be intermediary servers). So, if your computer isn't caching the old DNS record longer than it should, my thinking was that perhaps it is getting a stale record from your upstream DNS server. That is why I suggested trying a different DNS server. 
Here's another idea: Try connecting to Conservapedia's IP address, rather than domain name: https://96.125.173.110/Main_Page
Your browser will give your a security warning or error message, because the HTTPS encryption isn't designed to work without a domain name. Most browsers still give you an option to continue to the site, although Chrome might not. I also would '''not''' recommend logging in to your account this way, since your credentials could be intercepted by malicious individuals online. However, there is no harm in just connecting, to see if you still get the error you have been getting. You should be getting the exact same site either way, just with the TLS encryption broken in this case. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:03, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:Oh, okay. Just wondering though, why would I get a "403 - Forbidden" pop-up that says I "don't have permission to access this resource"? I'm not sure why that specific notice appears. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 02:11, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

::If you are connecting to the new CP server, well, you shouldn't be getting it. However, on the old server, some efforts were being made to block off portions of the internet as a temporary mitigation of the excessive server load. However, those blocks were reportedly only ever on the old server, so you should old be getting this error if you aren't actually getting connected to the new server. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:27, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:::If that's the case, then it must be that I'm automatically connecting to the old server when trying to access CP. How long should it take at most before I connect to the new server? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 02:46, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

::::The current CP DNS record expires every 60 minutes. So, within one hour, you should start being directed to the new site, unless the old DNS record was different. That's why I don't see how/why this could even be happening. I have no better ideas at present, though. Did you try going [https://96.125.173.110/Main_Page here] (and continuing through the encryption error page), to see if you get the same 403 error? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:15, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::Would it be safe for me to add a security exception to access the site? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 14:20, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

::::::It should be fine. What your browser is warning you about is that an HTTPS encrypted connection can be created, but it can't verify that the site is actually who you think it is. HTTPS only works as intended when domain names are used, so replacing the name with its IP address causes it to partially break. So, a security exception in the case will apply only to this IP address (which you can verify is correct by using nslookup on the conservapedia.com record - type "nslookup conservapedia.com" in command prompt to see what IP address you should be using), allowing your browser to connect with the server specified even though it cannot automatically verify it is who you think it is. The only time such a security exception will come into play again is if you again visit this IP address directly in your web browser. The only danger is that you could potentially be going to the wrong address, and end up on a malicious website instead of the one you intend to reach. It's up to you though--you don't need to do this, it just would help us make use that you are getting the 403 error from the new server, rather than the old. If you're not comfortable with it, that's fine. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:29, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::::I just tried going on that site, but got the same error popping up. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 14:36, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

Hmm... Well that is very interesting... --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:30, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:There we go! It looks like Andy found the problem, which was affecting you only. Please try it again, and if that doesn't work, clear your cache and retry. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:40, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

::Yep, the site functions normally again! So what had happened that halted me from getting here directly? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 18:50, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:::Unexpectedly your IP address got caught mistakenly in a small list that carried over from the old system in a deny file. Even though blocks were cleared, your IP address was mistakenly still stuck there. Glad it's working now and sorry for the oversight!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:01, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

::::How did my IP address even get into that list? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Saturday, 19:08, 29 August 2020 (EDT)

:::::I know there was a bit of guesswork involved in troubleshooting things when the site broke, and part of that included trying to figure out if any particular IPs were causing problems in the backend. My guess would be that in this process, your IP was checked along with many others, including mine. It was certainly nothing personal, as they didn't even know who's IP was who's during that process. I got blocked initially as well, along with more than half of the internet. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:43, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

::::::Ah, I see. Thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Thursday, 18:07, 3 September 2020 (EDT)

== Minuteman ==

Hi DavidB4, I'm just curious, do you have [[User:Minuteman|Minuteman]] actively set up on CP right now? I have noticed before that the bot would automatically block any user account that has an inappropriate username or vandalizes pages to a certain degree. There has recently been some trolls who have either created accounts under foul names or vandalized pages (particularly [[Special:Contributions/LTtheasswipe|this idiot]] who isn't yet blocked while I'm typing this) that weren't blocked by Minuteman as vandals in the past have. Thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Friday, 19:16, 21 August 2020 (EDT)

:Hi Liberaltears, Minuteman detected the site's instability a couple weeks ago, and shut down. I have been keeping it offline since then, while the site was being migrated to better hosting. Now that the site seems stable on this new server, I expect to be starting up Minuteman quite soon. I prefer not to publicly announce when it is going offline, since that would invite additional vandalism. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:00, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

::Ah I see. Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday,

::Too late, that "Coservapedia user get pro help/therapy" guy has been making more stupid socks. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 01:36, 24 August 2020 (EDT)

:::You know, one day if a friend of mine ever invites me to a puppet show, I'd be more than happy to go unless it has to do with ''sockpuppets''. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Monday,

::::You know... [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) Monday, 05:47, 24 August 2020 (EDT)
----
I did nothing, and the robot Minuteman blocked me, I don't know why, it says "Temporary Minuteman block". - [[User:Punish China]]

:Hi Punish China, it could've been your post [[Talk:National_Basketball_Association|here]] in caps lock that caused the bot to think that you may have been a troll or something. —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Sunday, 14:55, 20 September 2020 (EDT)

::Hi Punish China, it seems there were a few things Minuteman didn't like. Mainly, it was your edits to "Examples of Bias in Wikipedia" which it mistakenly thought were plagiarism, and your reference to RW. There were several contributing factors it was looking at for the former, but it still shouldn't have bothered you over these two things. I've made some adjustments, so it shouldn't give you any more trouble. Sorry for the trouble! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:12, 21 September 2020 (EDT)

== Another question ==

Hi DavidB4, I noticed that sometimes when entering CP, a title headline would pop up on the Main Page when such normally doesn't happen. Does it have anything directly to do with the recent errors? Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>Liberaltears</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Tuesday, 23:58, 28 September 2020 (EDT)

:"title headline"? Sorry, I'm not certain what you mean. Could you clarify? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:09, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

::So on the top of almost every page, the page title is automatically displayed, though this isn't the case for the Main Page. However, I noticed on multiple occasions recently that a title appears there, though clicking on "View source" or "View history" will cause it to disappear. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>Liberaltears</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Tuesday, 07:39, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

:::Odd. I see a title on the home page, which is simply "Conservapedia".
:::The site header includes the <code><nowiki><title>Conservapedia</title></nowiki></code> tag, which sets this value. It should always show as this, unless a script on the page changes it. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:21, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

::::I probably should've been more specific, as I'm referring to the headline that shows up right above the contents/tools of a page, whether it's a special page, a content page, its source, history, etc. For example, when typing this response on this section, I see "Editing User talk:DavidB4 (section)". If I go to my contributions page, the headline simply says "User contributions". A headline doesn't show up for the Main Page under normal circumstances. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>Liberaltears</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Tuesday, 13:30, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

:::::Oh, okay. I misunderstood, so thanks for clarifying. Since we have a problem with data queries on the site right now, my best guess would be that yes, this is probably related to that problem. I don't know for sure though. I haven't noticed it, myself. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:48, 29 September 2020 (EDT)

== Webserver allowing spam ==

I noticed that you are blocking lots of IPs, why? And, what is with the "Webserver allowing spam"? - [[User:Punish China]]

:I believe it's because those IP addresses are being used by recent vandals, possibly to evade autoblocks. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>Liberaltears</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Wednesday, 19:46, 30 September 2020 (EDT)

::Those IPs would never be used by legitimate editors. The ones I have been blocking lately are specifically registered to cloud service providers, which are being used to run IP masking services. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:45, 1 October 2020 (EDT)
::Conservapedia's policy is that users must connect from their own IP addresses. Therefore, connecting to CP from any one of those IPs without permission from us would be a breach of that policy. However, for this purpose, I have only blocked account registration from those IPs. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:50, 1 October 2020 (EDT)

== Question about cascading protection ==

Hi DavidB4, I'm just curious about the "cascading" option for page protections, is it possible for non-administrators with the "protect" tag like you to use it when semi-protecting pages? Thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Thursday, 00:18, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

:Yes, it is available for any protection level. Of course, "semi-protection" seems to do nothing, but oh well. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:47, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

::Okay, that's very helpful because there should then be a way to indirectly protect pages so that only anyone with the "protect" and/or "Administrator" tag can edit them; if say, Page A and Page B need to be protected as such, then Page C can be created with "<nowiki></nowiki>" for its content and then be protected with the cascading option turned on. In that case, at least based off the [[Special:ListGroupRights|listed user rights]], editing Page A and Page B would be limited to those with the "protect" or "Administrator" tag. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Thursday, 08:36, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

:::Yes, in theory. That has sometimes been done for templates, so for example, anything with the homosexuality template gets cascading protection from that template. However, the only two things we can currently base our protection on are "autoconfimed" and "administrator" tags. Autoconfirm is unfortunately not working as intended for some reason, so realistically, the only locking option we have is restricting editing to "Administrator" tags. I wonder if it might be possible to add protection limiting editing to those with the "Edit" tag also, but I don't know if it can or would be done. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:27, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

::::So are you referring to pages that have Template:Homosexuality transcluded into them? From my understanding with the way cascading protection works, if the template is protected with cascading turned on, only templates/pages that transclude ''into'' the template would be affected, not pages that have Template:Homosexuality transcluded in them (correct me if I'm wrong). Also, regarding changing the number of protection levels, I think either Andy and/or the webmaster would know about it. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Thursday, 13:52, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

:::::Oh, no you're right. Yes cascading protection ensures that anything included on that page is also protected. I was getting it mixed up with something else. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:04, 15 October 2020 (EDT)

== File request ==

Hi. Can you upload [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Emblem_of_Turkey.svg this file] to the Conservapedia? It's a public domain. - [[User:Andrewlee|Andrewlee]] ([[User talk:Andrewlee|talk]]) 06:26, 17 October 2020 (EDT)

:Sure, here it is: [[:File:Emblem of Turkey.svg.png]] --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:28, 18 October 2020 (EDT)
::Thank you so much! Can you upload those files: [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Istiklal_Caddesi_06_24_09_0068.jpg 1], [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Iskenderun_church.jpg 2]? These are also public domain. - [[User:Andrewlee|Andrewlee]] ([[User talk:Andrewlee|talk]]) 12:09, 30 October 2020 (EDT)
Is there a problem? - [[User:Andrewlee|Andrewlee]] ([[User talk:Andrewlee|talk]]) 01:36, 7 November 2020 (EST)
:It could be that DavidB4 is rather busy or didn't see your reply requesting those two files. I just uploaded them [[:File:Istiklal_Caddesi_06_24_09_0068.jpg|here]] and [[:File:Iskenderun_church.jpg|here]]. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Saturday, 11:39, 7 November 2020 (EST)

::Andrewlee, thanks for the reminder there--I apologize, but I have had very little free time lately. Thank you LT for doing that! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 03:12, 9 November 2020 (EST)

== Why you undoed my edit ==
I was redirecting the page by copy+paste, then you moved automatically without doing that. So, the pages got switched, and the new page that got switched to the old page said #REDIRECT (New page), and the edit history was moved. Thus, my edit was undoed. (I had no intention to cause trouble) Am I right? --[[User:United States|United States]] ([[User talk:United States|talk]]) 17:04, 3 December 2020 (EST)

:The problem is that pages are not suposed to be moved using cut+paste. The edit history of pages must also be moved, along with the text. Otherwise, you are essentailly telling the world that you wrote the entire page, even though you didn't. I didn't think there were any subsiquent edits to the new page, so I deleted it to make room for the original, then moved that with its edit hitory to the new name. If there were subsiquent edits to the new page you created, they were unfortunately lost...I do appologize for that. I would have tried to preserve them if I had noticed. I would basically need to paste in your edits from the new page to the origianl, and include your name on the edit summary. That's that I typically do this this situation, although it's not at all ideal. Sorry for missing that! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:42, 3 December 2020 (EST)

== Request for DavidB4-bot ==

Hi DavidB4, if you have the time, can you see if you can have DavidB4-bot remove any zero-width spacing from CP pages that include it, particularly BHathorn's page creations? In articles like [[Bernard Bagert, Sr.|this one]], [[Major de Pingre'|this one]], and [[Bob McFarland|this one]], it causes an extraneous spacing due to it apparently being used on the top and bottom of the page, but it's invisible property makes it hard to find and remove, and this seems to be the case with dozens and dozens of pages. Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Saturday, 00:06, 19 December 2020 (EST)

:Interesting...I've never really dealt with ZWSP issues before. I'll see what my options for this are. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:49, 23 December 2020 (EST)

::Okay, thanks! —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Wednesday, 18:43, 23 December 2020 (EST)

== What has happened with CreationWiki ==

Is there any way to contact the moderators of CreationWiki.org because it is a major source for Creation Science and it has been down for a long time. If you could contact them ask them what is happening and tell them to make the website to be back online. User:Kirikagure, 31 December 2020

I recently tried contacting them via email--it hasn't been long enough to expect a reply yet. Hopefully they are aware and working on the issue, but it has been offline for a while now. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:10, 1 January 2021 (EST)

== Is this appropriate? ==

Hi,

I don't really know how to put this diplomatically, but here's my best shot...

I have been looking through Conservapedia's content and I have noticed that the vast majority of it is defending and promoting the ideology of conservatism, however, it seems to lack a lot of non-politics/conservative related content on things like aircraft, history (non-US history), geography etc. I would be happy to write these types of articles for Conservapedia, however, I am worried about them not falling into the remit of Conservapedia, could you please confirm this? Don't worry, I won't be offended if you say no...

Thanks in advance! {{unsigned|Elnencatala}}

:Hi Elnencatala, certainly feel free to write on non-political topics! I agree, the current political issues are generally well-covered, but non-political topics can sometimes be a little lacking. Of course, try to focus on topics of public interest. The areas you mentioned sound great! In fact, history was one of the topics which was initially focused on when Conservapedia was founded (although there's more to be done). If there is a reasonable expectation of some of our readers wanting information on that topic (and keep in mind, some of our readers are homeschoolers), then by all means, go for it!
:Thanks for making sure--I look forward to seeing it! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:05, 2 January 2021 (EST)

==Source update request==
Hello, could you update the source link in this image? Correct link to LOC. [https://www.loc.gov/item/2009633684/] The link to "thisnation" has expired.
[[File:W-pray.jpg|left|200px|thumb|painted by H. Brueckner; engd. by John C. McRae]] {{unsigned|Progressingamerica}}
{{clear}}
:It looks like I can't. It is locked so that only a full admin can edit it. Probably Karajou, Conservative, or Andy could help you with that. Sorry about that! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:40, 7 January 2021 (EST)
==Thank you for the assistance==
You were right. The checkbox must be checked. I'm in. Thank you. - --[[User:CharlesShirley|CharlesShirley]] ([[User talk:CharlesShirley|talk]]) 09:36, 15 January 2021 (EST)

:I'm glad to hear that worked! Let me know if you have any other issues. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 10:30, 15 January 2021 (EST)

== Those people are socks I suspect. ==

They are all signing up the minute one of them gets blocked. --[[User:Yeschayi|Trump]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 18:48, 17 January 2021 (EST)

:Yeah, that's what these losers do when they're bored. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:49, 17 January 2021 (EST)

:I agree. --[[User:Yeschayi|Trump]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 18:51, 17 January 2021 (EST)

== Who is Sievert81RW? ==

Is it sievert himself or another sock of the person vandalising rightist articles? --[[User:Yeschayi|Trump]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 18:52, 17 January 2021 (EST)
:Not sure, I haven't checked. Sievert81 did get blocked a while back, so either way, this person is unwanted. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:09, 17 January 2021 (EST)
:Could be his sock account. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 19:12, 17 January 2021 (EST)
::It's him, and I just sent his IP address on a little vacation, though I'm not sure if it will work with this bug we have going on. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 21:54, 17 January 2021 (EST)
:Keep an eye out for his socks, he could reset his router. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 21:55, 17 January 2021 (EST)
::If he resets his IP address to evade a block I will send a report to his ISP for unauthorized access. Since I believe he is a teenager, it should be interesting when his parents get that nastygram from the cable company. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 21:59, 17 January 2021 (EST)
::They’ll probably ground him or something, keep an eye out for potential socks of sievert though, --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 22:04, 17 January 2021 (EST)

== Hi there. ==

Later, i'm going to re write more of the [[Windows 95]] article. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 14:46, 18 January 2021 (EST)
:Ok, sounds good. Thanks! I didn't mean to pounce on you, but just wanted to head off any future issues by checking now. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:48, 18 January 2021 (EST)

== Conservapedia priorities ==

Please see [[Conservapedia:Project Priorities]] and update, protect, etc. as, of course, you see fit.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 23:47, 19 January 2021 (EST)

== Please undelete Gypsy Taub ==

Please undelete [[Gypsy Taub]]. Karajou must not have been feeling well when he deleted it a few days ago.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:18, 22 January 2021 (EST)
:You'll need to speak with Karajou about that...I don't have the authority to override his decisions. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:16, 22 January 2021 (EST)
::(Offensive comment retracted. I apologize. I was wrong.).--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 21:56, 22 January 2021 (EST)
:::CP does have a No Personal Attacks policy similar to WP's, so you need to mind your Ps and Qs when trash talking another editor. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 23:18, 22 January 2021 (EST)
::::Any licensed psychiatrist would agree with my assessment of the situation. I have a psychiatric diagnosis of schitzoaffective disorder and I faithfully take my meds. I am as right as rain. Karajou probably thinks that there is some oh-so-terrible stigma with getting the help of a licensed proffessional. He may have served his country but he has some growing up to do.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 23:22, 22 January 2021 (EST)
:::::User:Amorrow, your insulting comment about another editor is false and offensive. Please retract it and apologize immediately. More generally, we're building an encyclopedia here and non-encyclopedia content is not allowed. Thank you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:29, 22 January 2021 (EST)
:::::::Andy, my dear man: please review [[Right to Privacy#Privacy is obsolete]] and get up to speed about the online encyclopedia of the coming decade. Please, please face facts: EVERYTHING is going online and going public. People will no longer keep paper records of any sort except for official documents. Even those will be copied online for the world to see. Soon children will ask "How could you old fogies ever survive without EVERYTHING being online?" Please also carefully review [[Conservapedia:Project Growth]]. This project is not living in the encyclopedias of the 1950s but the 1850s. My goodness: you are a Harvard man. Hide bound in tradition yes but you are a leader. You have no excuse for not keeping up with the fast crowd. The leading bleeding edge!--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 23:44, 22 January 2021 (EST)

== Uncategorized files ==

I fixed up [[Uncategorized files]] so that the links work again. I would be eager to work on that project if I could get some teamwork to happen.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 19:51, 22 January 2021 (EST)
:David, we're trying to categorize all images in [[:Category:Images]]. I thought there were 25,000, but Amorrw says 2,500. I don't know which is correct. But we need a bot to fix this. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 22:02, 22 January 2021 (EST)
::I might be able to have a bot do it, but these images are admin locked, so I would need Admin-level protect/unprotect in order to do it. This is why I gave up on the project years ago, because I simply couldn't. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:58, 22 January 2021 (EST)

== A quick task for you ==

Please see [[User talk:Amorrow#Images]].--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 21:31, 22 January 2021 (EST)

==Proposal==
We would appreciate your input at [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Proposal]]. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 19:59, 1 February 2021 (EST)

== Debate ==

:Hello David. I would like to get your input at a debate page I set up [[Debate:Should the United States attack Pakistan?]]. Thanks.[[User:Bytemsbu|Bytemsbu]] ([[User talk:Bytemsbu|talk]]) 21:09, 1 February 2021 (EST)

::Hi,
::I haven't really been paying enough attention to the geopolitical landscape over there lately, to form an educated opinion. If I get some time, I'll try to take a look. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:05, 1 February 2021 (EST)

==Request==
Please delete my account and user page. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 23:32, 3 February 2021 (EST)
:No problem. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:15, 4 February 2021 (EST)
::Bye Rob. Best of luck in your future endeavors! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:29, 4 February 2021 (EST)

== TY note ==

Hi DavidB4,
Thank you for your welcome message.
Ergo sum

:We're glad to have you! Let me know if you need anything! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:00, 5 March 2021 (EST)

== About: Article Battle of Wilson’s Wharf ==

Should I add content to it, since it’s requested for deletion for no content should add some? --[[User:Yeschayi|Builder]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 01:09, 5 March 2021 (EST)

:Please do! It was tagged only because there was no actual content on that page. Feel free to add some text, and remove the deletion tag. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 14:01, 5 March 2021 (EST)

==This user==
I believe the evidence supports [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=George_Washington&diff=prev&oldid=1741644 this user] as being a mentally handicapped adult and not part of any wider troll network. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 23:14, 2 April 2021 (EDT)
:That may well be, but they were [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=George_Washington&diff=prev&oldid=1741642 still trolling]. The edit pattern ranked a low familiarity score on Minuteman, with only one other recent pattern match. Whatever. Whether in-network or freelance, they're still feeding the algorithm...so it's not all for nothing. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:33, 3 April 2021 (EDT)

== Make Sure ==

@[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] Can you please make sure that Minuteman bot doesn't block me for a third time. I get the first block was for reviewing my account but I got a second block. - [[User:ChadUser|ChadUser]]
:Since Karajou has backed you up, you shouldn't have any more issues. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 21:03, 10 April 2021 (EDT)

== Image help ==

@[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] Since only admins can add images, can you please add images for these articles? These are ones, I either created or reworked.
[[Joachim von Ribbentrop]]
[[Alfred Rosenberg]]
[[Julius Streicher]]
[[Mary Miller]]
[[Tom Rice]]
[[Cynthia Lummis]]
[[Odilo Globocnik]]

You should already get Ribbentrop's image copied onto here from the link on this page. https://conservapedia.com/File:Joachim_von_Ribbentrop

And here are the sources for the images for the rest:
Streicher:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1997-011-24,_Julius_Streicher.jpg

Rosenberg:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_183-1985-0723-500,_Alfred_Rosenberg_headcrop.jpg

Miller:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mary_Miller_117th_U.S_Congress.jpg

Rice:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Tom_Rice,_Official_Portrait,_113th_Congress_-_full.jpg

Lummis:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CynthiaLummis.jpg

Globocnik
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-2007-0188,_Odilo_Globocnik.jpg

--[[User:ChadUser|ChadUser]]

== Check It Out ==

I made a review of the new members of the 117th congress. [[Essay:117th US House New Members Review]]. Let me know what you think of the page and the concept. [[User:ChadUser|ChadUser]] ([[User talk:ChadUser|talk]]) 11:26, 15 April 2021 (EDT)

== Should I use Officeholder or Dictator for [[Abdul Karim Qassem]]? ==

Just asking. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk!]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 13:15, 28 April 2021 (EDT)

:Good question. I don't know much about him, so I don't know if I'm really qualified to answer. From the small amount of mainsteam information I've seen about him, it sounds like "Officeholder" might be more accurate, '''but''' mainstream sources notoriously like to slant their writings, so I can't say for sure. A quick web search tells me that he supposedly sat on a three-man "Revolutionary Council" which would imply he wasn't a dictator, but his actions might say otherwise. I also see a reference to him "being elected" prime minister. I don't know if that was a fair election, or a typical banana-republic "election" when he was guaranteed to "win". I would need to do a lot more research to answer those questions. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:25, 28 April 2021 (EDT)

== Is this guy a sock? ==

https://conservapedia.com/User_talk:Johni13 --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk!]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 13:35, 1 May 2021 (EDT)

:Yes. They've been blocked --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:13, 1 May 2021 (EDT)

== Friendly editor notice about a discussion ==

Hey DavidB4. I just wanted to let you know I started a discussion about new content (Maybe a new article for it) about content on Wikipedia. You can see the discussion here: [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Discussion for a possible new Wikipedia Article]]. I am letting the active editors know about the discussion. Feel free to drop your opinion in it! --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 18:18, 14 May 2021 (EDT)

== Possibility of a citation formatting bot? ==

Hello! This is probably not the best place to discuss it but I am not aware of better places so... can we have something to automatically format a citation (such as a news article) into a proper format, such as with author name, source, date, title, url, accessed date, etc. etc.? On WP I only know to do this with the visual editor (maybe there is also a way with source editing? I do not know). I am asking because your user page says requests for automation is welcomed, so here I am :) --[[User:Luminoxius|Luminoxius]] ([[User talk:Luminoxius|talk]]) 02:33, 19 May 2021 (EDT)

:Hi, I'm certainly happy to discuss such things! So you are thinking of a tool which helps you properly format a reference before you publish it? I don't edit on WP, so I'm not familiar with how they do this. Are you thinking of bibliography formatting in general (such as [https://www.bibme.org/mla/website-citation/new BibMe], [https://www.easybib.com/mla-format/website-citation/custom EasyBib], and [https://www.mybib.com MyBib] offer) or a tool which specifically formats and fills in one of our ref templates, so you can just paste in that pre-generated template block? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 10:56, 19 May 2021 (EDT)

::Hi, I am not entirely sure what the two scenarios are... I will use an example to show what I hope to be achievable on the site. When I cite this news https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/521425-gop-senator-writing-book-criticizing-big-tech-for-tyranny on this site, my input would be
:::<nowiki>"<ref>https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/521425-gop-senator-writing-book-criticizing-big-tech-for-tyranny</ref>"</nowiki>.
::and the link will appear in the Reference section as such, with zero formatting. When I cite this on WP, I would switch from source editing to their relatively new "visual editor" where the citation tool automatically converts the reference to
:::"Klar, Rebecca (October 16, 2020). "GOP senator writing book criticizing Big Tech for 'tyranny'". The Hill. Retrieved January 7, 2021."
::with the report title superlinked to the source. If I am to achieve the same on Conservapedia, I would need to first generate an entry in Zotero where the fields are automatically identified by the software, then output the entry to some document as bibliography, and finally copy-paste the line to <nowiki>"<ref></ref>"</nowiki>. This is so much of a hassle that I have never tried it. Apparently, such conversion is too cumbersome for not just me but most of our editors, therefore only a tiny number of references are formatted "properly", such as ref. 13 on [[Phyllis Schlafly]]. --[[User:Luminoxius|Luminoxius]] ([[User talk:Luminoxius|talk]]) 16:24, 19 May 2021 (EDT)

:::Okay, got it. Yes, Conservapedia doesn't have that visual editor feature. I do not have the ability to add/change wiki code, so I can't add something like that in. For bibliography, I typically use the offsite tool [https://www.bibme.org/mla BibMe]. That attempts to automatically grab the bibliography details from the website referenced, then prompts the user to verify/adjust/add as needed. Sometimes it does well and nothing needs to be changed. Other times it completely messes it up, and I need to manually fill in or fix the fields. Then it will give you the full bibliography text, and you can paste it into CP inside ref tags. Would that be helpful for your purpose? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:37, 19 May 2021 (EDT)

::::Oh so it is not possible after all. I can see how using BibMe works. It is much like using Zotero. I will start looking for a procedure that streamlines these tools then. Thank you! --[[User:Luminoxius|Luminoxius]] ([[User talk:Luminoxius|talk]]) 17:06, 19 May 2021 (EDT)

:::::Unfortunately, no I don't think it is possible. You're right, if we could add something like that, it would probably help us start using better citations. Sorry I can't help, but good suggestion! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 02:14, 21 May 2021 (EDT)

== Re: ==

No worries, these things happen. Thank you to all of you for being so welcoming! [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 20:23, 24 May 2021 (EDT)

Re: tpusa article

Im not sure how to reply to messages

I believe I added some things to it but I didn't write the entire thing originally. It was a combination of pulling from Wikipedia and infogalactic and then I added my own stuff

2021-02-15T22:58:40Z

Mikephshdj: Created page with "Democrat calls for violence refers to the numerous times that members of the Democrat Party and Democrat media have called for violence against their political opponents.. Th..."

Democrat calls for violence refers to the numerous times that members of the Democrat Party and Democrat media have called for violence against their political opponents..

This is a rough draft. It will be updated as necessary

'''Aoc called federal ice agents "nazis" running "actual concentration camps"'''<ref>{{Cite web|last=Dorman|first=Sam|date=2019-06-19|title=AOC's 'concentration camps' claim was just tip of the iceberg -- Here are some of her most controversial comments|url=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/aocs-concentration-camps-label-was-just-tip-of-the-iceberg-here-are-some-of-her-most-controversial-moments|access-date=2021-02-13|website=Fox News|language=en-US}}</ref>

Afterwards there were two separate terrorist attacks on ice facilities and multiple terrorists doxing and gathering information on ice agents and their families<ref>{{Cite web|date=2019-07-14|title=Armed 'anarchist and anti-fascist' attempted to firebomb ICE facility in Tacoma, killed in confrontation with police|url=https://www.theblaze.com/news/terror-armed-antifa-member-attempts-to-firebomb-ice-facility-in-washington-is-killed-in-confrontation-with-police|access-date=2021-02-13|website=TheBlaze|language=en}}</ref>

'''Hillary clinton dangerously questioned the results of the election and said publicly "we cant have civility""'''<ref>{{Cite web|date=2018-10-09|title=Hillary Clinton: 'You cannot be civil' with GOP—but 'civility' can resume if Democrats win Congress|url=https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/10/09/hillary-clinton-you-cannot-be-civil-with-gop-but-civility-can-resume-if-democrats-win-congress|access-date=2021-02-13|website=TheBlaze|language=en}}</ref>

Later a derranged Democrat socialist opened fire on multiple GOP Representatives that were playing baseball<ref>{{Cite web|date=2017-06-14|title=Scalise shooter appeared to be Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer|url=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/scalise-shooter-appeared-to-be-bernie-sanders-campaign-volunteer|access-date=2021-02-13|website=Fox News|language=en-US}}</ref>

'''multiple Democrats have referred to Donald Trump as "Hitler" and an "illegitimate president""'''

As a result over Trump's presidency there were three separate bombings of GOP headquarters across the Nation..

Maxine Waters told her supporters to "push back"" on Trump supporters<ref>{{Cite web|last=Manchester|first=Julia|date=2018-06-24|title=CORRECTED: Maxine Waters calls on people to confront Trump officials in public spaces|url=https://thehill.com/homenews/house/393874-maxine-waters-calls-on-supporters-to-confront-trump-officials-in-public-spaces|access-date=2021-02-13|website=TheHill|language=en}}</ref>

as a result there have been over 500 documented attacks on Trump supporters and several murders..<ref>{{Cite web|title=The Database of Attacks On Trump Supporters + Hoaxes|url=https://www.attacksontrumpsupporters.com/|access-date=2021-02-13|website=Attacks On Trump Supporters|language=en-US}}</ref><ref>{{Cite web|last=|first=|date=|title=Vi|url=https://www.conservapedia.com/Left-wing_violence_in_the_Trump_era|url-status=live|archive-url=|archive-date=|access-date=|website=}}</ref>

'''Nancy Pelosi AOC Maxine Waters Chuck Schumer and multiple other Democrats repeated the debunked conspiracy theory'''<ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-06-05|title=Tucker Carlson Breaks Down Every Police Shooting Of Unarmed Black Sus…|url=http://archive.is/yyAHk|access-date=2021-02-13|website=archive.is}}</ref> '''that police Target unarmed black people..'''

As a result they caused BLM terrorists to burn down cities. Causing more damage than any natural disaster in the country's history.. they cause them to murder 17 cops in 2020<ref>{{Cite web|date=2021-02-06|title=Here’s A List Of The Police Killed Or Injured In The Last Week’s Viol…|url=http://archive.is/lWmZO|access-date=2021-02-13|website=archive.is}}</ref> and they caused them to commit insurrection by seceding from the nation and creating an autonomous zone in Portland..

'''Kamala Harris repeated her sexist and debunked conspiracy theory that Supreme Court Justice Brett kavanaugh was the leader of a national rape mafia..'''<ref>{{Cite web|last=Severino|first=Carrie|date=2020-09-05|title=Never forget Kamala Harris’ cruel lies in the Kavanaugh confirmation fight|url=https://nypost.com/2020/09/04/never-forget-kamala-harris-cruel-lies-in-the-kavanaugh-confirmation-fight/|access-date=2021-02-13|website=New York Post|language=en-US}}</ref>

As a result Hillary supporters stormed the capital during the hearings<ref>{{Cite web|date=2021-01-10|title=FLASHBACK: Anti-Kavanaugh Protesters Banged On Doors Of Supreme Court…|url=http://archive.is/7ZGH3|access-date=2021-02-13|website=archive.is}}</ref>

'''msnbc - A conspiracy theory'''<ref>{{Cite web|date=2020-10-22|title=Conspiracy Theorist Rachel Maddow Picked as Moderator for Democratic …|url=http://archive.is/955wA|access-date=2021-02-13|website=archive.is}}</ref> '''network that routinely wages war on democrat opponents'''<ref>{{Cite web|date=2018-07-05|title=Study: MSNBC is Pretty Much Pure Propaganda at This Point - Guy Benson|url=http://archive.is/uz41B|access-date=2021-02-13|website=archive.is}}</ref> '''stated that somebody should put a bullet in Donald Trump'''

'''Vice president Kamala Harris sent bail money to people that have been arrested for rioting and burning down stores and even killing people'''<ref>{{Cite web|last=Olson|first=Tyler|date=2020-09-17|title=Bail fund backed by Kamala Harris and Joe Biden staffers bailed out alleged child abuser, docs indicate|url=https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bail-fund-backed-by-kamala-harris-and-biden-staffers-bailed-out-alleged-child-abuser|access-date=2021-02-13|website=Fox News|language=en-US}}</ref>

as a result they were dangerous people that had been arrested let back onto the street to go back and riot some more..

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Mikephshdj: Ndnd

==Getting into search results==

I developed a userscript to replace googles Wikipedia results with conservapedia

Would anyone be interested? Its completed. And it works

:Sounds fabulous! Please tell us more about it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:12, 12 December 2020 (EST)

==Getting into search results==

I was wondering if there's any way to develop a chrome extension or a user script or something that can replace Wikipedia information in Google search with conservapedia?

Wikipedia is obviously unreliable and it would be nice to have conservapedia results insteadd {{unsigned|Mikephshdj}}

:An extension should be able to do this, but you would probably need to make it from scratch. It sounds like you are talking about modifying the search result page itself, so that might be bit difficult, though. The search engine will still be returning WP results, so I think you would need your addon to check independently for a CP page on the same topic, then do post processing on that page to overlay that CP result on top of the WP result. A somewhat "lazier" option would be to do DNS replacement/interception in the addon, and simply redirect wikipedia.org URIs to conservapedia URIs. The search results would look the same, but when a WP link is clicked, you would end up on CP instead. Of course, if CP doesn't have a page by the same exact name as WP, that wouldn't work. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:09, 12 December 2020 (EST)

==Mobile Site Editing Not Working Properly==
When I try to edit a page on the mobile site, as soon as I tap on a line all the text goes white and I have to try to guess where words are. I constantly have to turn off editing so I can see where sentences and things are, and then turn it back on so I can actually edit them. Is this supposed to happen, or is it a glitch of some kind. [[User:Eholkins|Eholkins]]

:Well that sounds very problematic! No, that is not supposed to happen. It seems to work properly for me, although I typically switch out of mobile view and just scroll around on the standard view instead, just by preference (I know, it sounds crazy, but with good eyes and a large screen, it works). Have you tried a different browser on your phone, such as Firefox? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:43, 4 June 2019 (EDT)

==Congressman John Fleming==
How can I update his photo? Thanks. Nathan posted that I need to contact an administrator to upload a photo. How do I contact an administrator? [[User:Dustygram|Dustygram]]

:I'll upload it for you now. Please look for it in "Recent changes" (link on right side).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 20:41, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
::Andy Schlafly, I can't find "Recent changes" and a link. Where is this? On the article page? [[User:Dustygram|Dustygram]] ([[User talk:Dustygram|talk]]) 22:34, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
:::The link is on the upper-lefthand corner of the screen, right below the CP logo. However, I have the link to the image here: [[:File:John Flemming.jpg]]. Doing it once should not be a problem, but please post something at the bottom of such a page next time. Thanks for contributing! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:36, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
::::Thanks 1990'sguy for uploading a more recent official portrait. Now, how can I replace the old one with the new one?--[[User:Dustygram|Dustygram]] ([[User talk:Dustygram|talk]]) 12:31, 23 May 2017 (EDT)
:::::This is a very late reply, but I just noticed this never got answered. If you are still looking for an answer, just go to the article, and replace the name of the old image with the name of the new one. For future reference, image uploads can be formally requested here: [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]]. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:48, 4 June 2019 (EDT)

== Taking AP Biology ==
Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but... I am a student in public high school, and am taking AP Biology. I have just learned that Evolution is an entire '''chapter''' in the course. Would it be moral for me to learn evolution without believing it just to pass the test? Or should I drop the course? (This would be very time consuming and difficult)- David {{unsigned|DavidKondner}}
::Nothing immoral about learning about evolution at all. Go for it and you will be pleasantly surprised to learn what evolution is actually like. After all, the majority of people have major misconceptions on what it is which leads to their denial of it. Learning about something from those who support it is always best for learning the truth about the subject, don't limit your understanding of things to just those against it. [[User:Riddles|Riddles]] 23:30, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

I think Riddle is a very smart man and you should listen to what he has to say. No, you don't need to believe in evolutionism, but how are we suppose to become one peaceful humanity without learning about one another. [[user:horenvalle]] 14:01, October 16 2009 (EDT)

:::Learn a falsehood and pretend it's true, and more falsehoods, confusion, depression and errors will follow. Realize that atheists must believe in evolution despite its falsehood and you'll immediately see why they push, and push, and push it in public schools.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:56, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

::::"Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never peril. [[Sun Tzu]]"
::::If there's ''only'' a chapter on evolution in your course, I'd be amazed. Any non-creationist course on [[biology]] is likely to be [[evolution]]-centric. After all, if one won't accept special [[creation]], it's the only game in town! Just keep in mind the difference between science (testable, repeatable) and just-so stories ("This feature arose because ..."). Here are a couple of links you might find useful and encouraging:
::::*[http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0920classroom.asp ‘Creation evangelism’ in the public school classroom]
::::*[http://creation.com/how-do-i-do-my-assignment-about-evolution How do I do my assignment about evolution?]
::::You also might want to invest in a copy of Evolution Exposed, a book that breaks down the evolutionary assumptions and explanations, explicit and implicit, and provides both brief answers and directions to finding more information on line.
::::In short, you need to know what the evolutionists teach, even if you know it's wrong. ~ ''[[User:Mdotley|Webster]]'' ([[User talk:Mdotley|talk]]) 15:53, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

::better learn the material. College consists of a lot of required courses you have to take but don't have to believe. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:05, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

:::All the examples of such requirements consist of learning and reciting anti-Christian beliefs. I'm not aware of any colleges or AP tests that require learning a Christian belief to obtain basic credits.

:::Try homeschooling David, or try a college that does not require recitation of evolutionary beliefs.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:12, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions! In the end I decided to take the course and found out it wasn’t nearly as bad as a thought it would be. I expressed my concerns to my teacher beforehand and he was very understanding. Before we started the unit he was very clear to the class that evolution was a theory and we were under no obligation whatsoever to believe evolution, however he still expects us to know the material for the AP exam. It’s amazing how similar some of God’s creatures can be and I can almost see how a Godless Atheist might believe they once shared a common ancestor. All in all, the course has been an enlightening experience and, for the most part, has given me greater respect and appreciation for God’s creatures and life in general. --[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 14:59, 3 February 2010 (EST)

:Davidkon, we have no way to confirm your experience, but even if true it is not typically for public school science teachers, most of whom can be very liberal and very dogmatic about the theory of evolution. Also, I find it odd that "he still expects us to know the material for the AP exam." AP exams are like extra credit, for an extra charge, and are rarely a requirement of any public school class.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:21, 3 February 2010 (EST)

As I’ve said before, my AP Bio class is relatively harmless, but my AP government class is sure getting out of hand! The entire class is one big batch of liberal propaganda about how social reform is “necessary” and how that the current conservative platform on homosexuality is one of “intolerance and bigotry”, and that’s a direct quote from the textbook! There are countless other biases that I have to deal with on a daily basis. On top of that when I asked my teacher about concerns the course is liberally biased, she told me “David, I’m sorry to tell you this, but ''reality'' has a liberal bias.” Can you believe that!?!--[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 22:22, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== Unable to edit? ==
I would like to post the following to the Jesse Helms article after "Foreign Policy" but am locked out. I don't know why. {{unsigned|BertSchlossberg}}
: Editing is often turned off overnight (U.S. time), which may have been your problem, although that means that you shouldn't have been able to post here, so unless it was turned back on in the meantime, I can't explain it. Would you like to try it again? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:47, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:: Right. The [[Jesse Helms]] entry is not locked.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:06, 19 December 2007 (EST)

==When only part of an article is accepted==
I recently posted an entry, [[F-105 Thunderchief]], and included a references section and a category, but in the final article, neither section shows up, although they are clearly present when the "Edit" button is clicked. Just now, this happened again with another entry I tried to make. What gives? Does the site only accept so much information in a new entry? --[[User:Frey|Frey]] 17:58, 27 February 2008 (EST)
:You had a bad <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag which I have fixed. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 18:02, 27 February 2008 (EST)
::I did? Oopsie. And thanks.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:09, 27 February 2008 (EST)

==KAL 007 article on Main page==
I would like to propose having the article [[Korean Airlines Flight 007]] as a featured article on the Main page. Thanks.[[User:BertSchlossberg|BertSchlossberg]] 15:32, 1 March 2008 (EST)
(finally got it right!)

: I'd like to review it in detail and hear what others think about it. On its surface, without yet studying it, it appears to be a major work. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:58, 1 March 2008 (EST)
:: There's a [[Conservapedia:Featured articles|page]] for listing proposed featured articles. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 17:52, 1 March 2008 (EST)

==To Kill The Child/Leaving Beirut==
I just wrote an exteremly long and extensive article about these two songs. Then, when I went to save the page, it said that it did not save it because there was a quote in their to explain about the song that contained a profanity. What gives? I thought that this website was supposed to educate people, yet people cannot be educated if they cannot know what the article is talking about and what the proof is. {{unsigned|Std}}
: We have a profanity filter for good reason, but sometimes exceptions need to be made. You haven't supplied enough information for us to judge if this warrants an exception. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:47, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

::What exactly are the exeptions that would get me the warrent?
::How do you upload an image?{{unsigned|Std}} on 10 April 2008, 21:26

:::You have to ask an administrator. There was a problem with people uploading obscene materials. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 00:42, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
:::An exception would be warranted if, for example, the word caught by the filter was not objectionable in the context. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:57, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

== Article on Larry McDonald ==
Can anyone do an article on Cong. [[Larry McDonald]], a passenger aboard KAL 007? —[[User:BertSchlossberg|BertSchlossberg]] 07:01, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

==Proposal==
I wrote some time ago about making plans to build Conservapedia into a force to be reckoned with. This site has the potential to become a powerful tool, but still has a ways to go, I think. As an example, I just did a search on [http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI= ACORN], a group funded by leftist billionaire [[George Soros]] that is becoming a very serious threat to the integrity of local elections. All I found was a one-line page about the oak tree. Of course the solution to this is to simply create the page myself. But I don't think this solves the larger issue; to my knowledge, there isn't a program of incentives inviting conservatives to contribute high-quality information and research articles on our opposition. How do we do this?

For one, I take it that Conservapedia gets some heavy traffic. Heavy traffic = $$$ in potential advertising revenue. Use that money to attract the right people to help build Conservapedia into a powerhouse of information. This could include rewards for college students, or hired admins (background checked with references and resume, of course). Perhaps contact county or state Republican/conservative groups, show what you've done, and propose a team effort to get more people to contribute articles to the web site.

In short, there's a million ways that this project can grow, and it is more important to me that the conservative cause succeeds than to keep these ideas to myself. My hope is that someone reading this will take hold of them... [[User:Alexander|Alexander]] 17:35, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

== IP address unblock request ==
My IP address at home appears to have been blocked. Could someone please unblock me? [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 15:16, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

==Bobby R. Himes==
I have a photo for the new article [[Bobby R. Himes]]. Can I get permission to upload it?[[User: Bhathorn|Bhathorn]] 18:24, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
: If the picture is on-line (and available for Conservapedia to use, of course), post the address here or click [[Special:Emailuser/Philip_J._Rayment|here]] to e-mail me the link and I can upload it to Conservapedia for you. If it's on your computer, e-mail me via that link anyway and I will reply with my e-mail address for you to e-mail me the picture, so I can then upload it. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:59, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

==Banning policy?==
Hello, I represent a website interested in your work. However recently a member of ours, JMcClane used your website and edited a page on Obama because it stated he was a Muslim, which it has been proven he isn't, he has been banned for 5 years, care to comment? It was a JPatt who did the banning, would he like to comment too?
:JMcClane removed a large amount of material in that article and replaced it with this:
::''"Obama is regularly mistaken as Islamic due to his second name, in fact he is not Muslim though stands for equality between religions. He is in fact Christian, though rumours were spread by Conservative spin Doctors hoping to turn the public against him."''
:And who is JMcClane to you? Care to comment on that? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:16, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

:Beyond the fact that you didn't answer my question mate, we're part of the same website who are interested in the current election in America, you might have heard of it. He became involved in this site and this happened, so I reiterate, gonna answer the question properly?
::I did answer your question, "mate", and you're not going to act like you run ''this place''; you will answer mine now. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:33, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

:As I said, we're part of the same website. I'm sorry about the mate comments, I'm just friendly like that. You've said you banned him cause of the edit, but isn't it kind of harsh as it is proven he's not Muslim so the entire article was pointless. That's all I'd like to know. And 5 years does seem steep.

Which website do you represent? Why are you interested in Conservapedia? Our banning policy is carefully calibrated and appropriate to the demands of the various situations. And sign your posts with four tildes, please; we are not interested in anonymous 'contributions'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:10, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

==Google misdirection==
In Google Search, the entry for ""Alger Hiss - Conservapedia" was changed today from "http://www.conservapedia.com/Alger_Hiss" to misdirect to the nonexistent Web page "http://www.conservativeencyclopedia.com/wiki/Alger_Hiss." Is there a way to ask Google to restore the correct link? [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 13:19, 4 February 2009 (EST)

*Thanks for noticing and reporting this, FOIA, but nothing needs to be done. When we had the hard drive failure, and temporarily re-directed, the search engine bots picked that up. Now that things are restored, the bots will report back to all the search engines, and in due time will be directing properly. The Google (and all other engines) are smart enough to compare and repair. Or so they say. Administrator Conservative might have more insight into this, and I have linked him to this page. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 14:23, 4 February 2009 (EST)
** For what its worth, Google is pretty much 100% automated. They almost never manually intervene in their search results, and that's generally due to a court or otherwise governmental order. [[User:ArthurA|ArthurA]] 14:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)
*** You mean that they generally ''only'' intervene due to court or governmental orders, correct? [[User:Npov2|Npov2]] 00:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

== Copyright? ==
I'd like to comment that [[:File:Kathleen Sebelius.jpg]] should probably be tagged as “fair use” rather than as “public domain.” Also, I think the description of the {{tl|commons}} template, both in [[Help:List of Templates]] and in the template body itself, is slightly misleading: items in Wikimedia Commons are not necessarily in the public domain. Thank you. [[User:Npov2|Npov2]] 00:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Why does the Conservapedia page on the 1951 movie, "The Thing From Another World" say that, "The film is now in the public domain."? Was there a problem with the copyright, or its renewal?

In suspense,

William Clark

tmcgeeclark@yahoo.com

== Google Gadget? ==
I understand that [[google]] has problems, but has there ever been thought to developing a "Google Gadget" with a conservapedia news feed?[[User:Mrguido45|Mrguido45]] 20:59, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

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I dont know about a gadget but i did develop a userscript that replaces Wikipedia with conservapedia in search results

It can be found here

https://gofile.io/d/Q63V6k

== Evolution feature on the Main Page ==
The section of the main page devoted to the Evolution article states that, "In 2006, the prestigious science journal Science reported concerning the United States: "The percentage of people in the country who accept the idea of evolution has declined from 45 in 1985 to 40 in 2005. Meanwhile the fraction of Americans unsure about evolution has soared from 7 per cent in 1985 to 21 per cent last year." The study was conducted with 2000 Americans (approximately), selected by pseudo-random digit dialing over the telephone. the study found that the portion of people unsure about evolution has increased in a statistically significant manner. The second finding of the study was that the proportion of people who believe in evolution and creationism have not changed in any statistically significant way (i.e.: That the p-value of the 1985 and 2005 data sets is greater than 0.05 - simply put, that there is not enough detectable difference between the respondents in 1985 and 2005 to make any kind of statement about it). Essentially, the study cited on the main page didn't actually prove that the public belief in evolution is declining. I would request a change to that article to remove the irrelevant citation about a decrease in evolutionary thinking among Americans. [[User: Praboud|Praboud]] 19:52, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== Referred to as a Methodist ==
Hi, I am not sure if this is the right location to ask this, but at the bottom of my user page there is a category section that says "Category: Methodist Conservapedians". I didn't place that there and it isn't available for editing out when I look at the editable content for my user page. I only bring this up because I am not a Methodist and I do not wish to mislead anyone into thinking I am. I do not know who added me to this category or why, or somehow if I accidentally did this myself. If possible, may I be added to the "Agnostic conservapedians" category instead? Thank you. -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 8:42, 20 June 2009 [EDT]

:It appears to be because of your userbox "This user believes in the United States Constitution." When I tried putting it on my user page, the Methodist category automatically appeared there as well. --[[User:OscarJ|OscarJ]] 09:02, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

::Fixed. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 11:20, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== I might be wrong... ==
But I do see quite a bit of bias on Conservapedia. If this is supposed to be "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia" then shouldn't bias be removed? I think that some of the articles are great and others are blatantly biased based upon the authors moral views. I know that some of the topics go against the beliefs of the people who run this site but it isn't a great way to run things. Tolerance of others and their beliefs, no matter what we think of them, is what Conservapedia should be about. Just my opinion and nothing more.

:Just your '''unsupported''' opinion and nothing more, you might have said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:35, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

::I could have, but I figured that people would pick that up from "'''I might be wrong...'''". I never had any beliefs that my opinions were supported here, as I had to make an effort to "vocalize" them. Generally people on and off of the internet don't support my opinions.

:::What I meant was that you made a claim of bias without providing any examples to support your claim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:02, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

::::Ah. [[http://www.conservapedia.com/Che_Guevara]] "Ernesto "Che" Guevara" "became a cultural icon for" "'''dumb white teenagers'''." [[http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism]] "Communism is an atheistic political system" Although extremely hilarious, I think that those articles are somewhat biased and detract from Conservapedia's accountability. I have not seen Wikipedia style hijackings yet though.

:::::Conservapedia is definitely biased. Its even in the name

Which is unfortunate because it would be great if it wasn't and we could make the case to certain search engines like DuckDuckGo to replace Wikipedia with it.. It has a great amount of information that you won't find on Wikipedia you're very dedicated user base.. unfortunately the bias does prevent it from ever serving as a true mainstream alternativ

For a more moderate alternative theres always infogalactic

But they don't really have much of a user base that keeps their articles up to datee

==Tau ceti to Tau Ceti==
I created an article called [[Tau ceti]], but it should be [[Tau Ceti]], is there anyway the name can be reset as the latter? Thank you. -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:00, 24 June 2009 [EDT]

:Yes, there [[Tau Ceti|'''is''']]. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 16:17, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

:: Thanks! -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:22, 24 June 2009 [EDT]

: In MediaWiki the proper way to do it is by a "move" operation, which preserves the editing and talk history. This feature is not currently enabled in Conservapedia for regular users. Ask an administrator to do it. — [[User:Philcooper81|Philcooper81]][[User_talk:Philcooper81|T]] 16:31, 26 February 2013 (EST)

==Alger Hiss==
I just tried to link to The Encyclopedia of Ukraine at and got this message:

::Spam protection filter

::The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.

The spam filter apparently mistook part of the URL for an obscenity.

Is there any way to fix this? Thanks![[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 21:40, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

*You can give the URL without making it a link, so that people can copy and paste the link into their own browser, but I am not inclined to unblock any part of that corner of the world, for pretty obvious reasons. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 21:44, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

==Kapteyn's star to Kapteyn's Star==
The article I created called [[Kapteyn's star]] was created with a lower case s for star, it should be upper case, could someone with the rights change the title to [[Kapteyn's Star]]? Thank you. -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 15:00, 8 July 2009 [EDT]

== Double Redirects ==
All three of the current [[Special:doubleredirects|double redirects]] are protected. Could a Sysop fix them, please? Thanks. ~ ''[[User:Mdotley|Webster]]'' ([[User talk:Mdotley|talk]]) 22:18, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

==I'm having a bit of trouble with some linking==
I'm trying to get the "Weather Report" and "Return to Forever" articles to link to jazz fusion. Instead, it's linking me to another jazz fusion article that I accidentally created and was recently deleted. Any help is much appreciated. [[User:Jdelong11|Jdelong11]]

: Did my change fix this?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:55, 28 December 2009 (EST)

==Username change==
Is it possible to change one's username? I haven't decided what I want the new one to be but will let you know when I have.--[[User:TedM|TedM]] 13:30, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

If this is possible, I would also be interested in doing so, since I have been recently denuked, and it would be disingenuous to continue with this username. [[User:Navy Nuke|Navy Nuke]]

:Sure, just provide your requested new name here and I'll change it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 08:35, 1 December 2009 (EST)

I'd to change my username to JonathanDP81. I'm standardizing my username across all my websites. [[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 10:47, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==User additions to this site==
Hi, I'm new here and I'm interested in adding some content to Conservapedia, namely in respect to firearm laws. Just a cursory glace makes me think that users can only edit existing topics? Am I wrong?
--[[User:LibGunslinger|LibGunslinger]] 11:28, Dec 10 2009
:You can add new pages if you so desire.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)

==Nova==
I believe this is right place to ask this, so here I am. I want to write an article on the astronomical phenomenon known as a "Nova", however all search on this site for that word is already directed towards "NOVA", a stub on the PBS series of that name. Should I rebuild that article to focus on the astronomical phenomena as that is what the base definition of a nova means? Or start a whole new article, such as "nova_(star)"? Thanks. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 13:18, 28 December 2009 (EST)

: I'll move "NOVA" to "NOVA (PBS)", and you can then have "Nova". Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:56, 28 December 2009 (EST)

::I turned the NOVA page into a disambiguation page that now points to both [[NOVA_(PBS)]] and [[Nova_(star)]], is this good? May want to make it Nova instead of NOVA though. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 17:29, 28 December 2009 (EST)

:::It's fine as you did it. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:53, 28 December 2009 (EST)

==Writing Plan==
User Ed Poor requested a writing plan from me. How exactly do I submit it to him?
Thank you. --[[User:JohnLee|JohnLee]] 16:53, 11 October 2010 (EDT)

: Anyone can post to his talk page: [[User talk:Ed Poor]]. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:00, 11 October 2010 (EDT)

==Editing complaint==
Someone started a debate page without posting any comments, so I decided to start the discussion. I spent about half an hour writing the post, clicked on save, and was redirected to a page informing me that I didn't have permission to edit it (Probably because it was the first post). And I was unable to go back and copy/paste what I'd written to post it later. Can someone please fix this so that if you click on a page to edit that you can't edit, it tells you straight away and doesn't simply waste your time. Thanks. - JamesCA, 31 July 2011
:And something similar. I recently tried to edit a page because some of the information was out of date, and did not find out until after I tried to save it, that it was locked for only administrators to edit. - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 19:02, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

::Both of the above comments surprise me, and the software should not lose information as you described. The browser being used may have an effect on this also.

::I thought that locked pages (which I think are a very small percentage of entries here) announced themselves as such when there is an attempt to edit them. The browser should not discard information regardless.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:11, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

:::It looks like you lock up editing at night. Is it possible that these folks were just caught by the deadline? --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 20:03, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
::::That is possible, I just tried editing the same page, and it worked. Also, because of my different timezone, I sometimes find that while looking through Conservapedia articles, the edit tag suddenly disappears, because the deadline suddenly comes in. Is there a way to check how long until the deadline? I'll check to make sure the information actually is lost when I get a chance. And does the deadline cut off at the same time every night? And also, who can start new pages (including debate pages)? Thanks - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 21:56, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

==Christianity and Politics==
I'm wondering what is your take (creators of conservapedia) on the mixing of Christianity and politics? I ask because as a young Christian I'm a little confused about how much focus I should give for politics alongside my faith. Other opinions I've read disregard politics completely within a Christian life, as if Christians in general should simply accept and respect whatever form of government rules over them regardless of the corruption or misguided policies such governments may contribute to the falling of the nation. Please clarify this conundrum for me as I feel uncertain if politics should be in any part of my life. God bless. --[[User:gravis57|gravis57]] 12:32PM, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
:Do you mean with regards to being active in politics, or how much your religious beliefs should influence your political opinions? One suggestion, try coming up with and arguing using non-religious points to support views that stem from religious beliefs. It'll enable you to more effectively argue against those who believe that the Bible alone is not enough to justify moral opinions. It'll also give you a wider range of arguments you can call on when discussing religion, politics or morality, and will enable you to more easily come up with counterpoints to arguments that you've never come across before. For example, if you're arguing against gay marriage, try using points such as family values, and the effect it would have on the institution of marriage, instead of using (only) quotes from Leviticus and Deuteronomy, and points based around what God says. - JamesCA (not a creator of conservapedia), August 9 2011

:Not exactly. I'm asking as a Christian to another Christian(s) as to how much politics should be a part of my life, or if they should even be apart of it at all. I mean while the founders of this great nation used God's principles to create a system of government that ensured rights, liberty, and freedom--is it wrong or vain to wish to inform, protect, or care about my country when Christ called us to spread his Word and not (unless I'm mistaken) deal with lesser matters in regard to such (political) things. This is where I'm confused about whether I should become even somewhat active within politics or simply disregard it entirely to focus on Christianity. - gravis57, August 8, 2011

:It's not wrong, and it's not vain, to wish to inform, protect or care about your country. It's part of serving one's country, part of helping people. There are many varied ways that you can help and serve people, and God. Christ called us not just to spread his Word, but to serve. 'For the son of God came not to be served, but to serve.' Can you serve God by becoming involved in politics? Maybe. Could you help people by becoming involved in politics, and by getting Congress to give them what they need? Or would it be better for you to serve another way? If you did become involved in politics, would it make it more difficult for you to serve God? I guess my general point is this: you can still serve God and the people by becoming involved in politics, but whether or not that is the best place for you to serve is a different matter. I'm starting to think that I might not be able to give you as good of an answer as you're looking for. Hopefully someone else will see this and help answer your question. Note about dates: different time zones is causing the inconsistent dates. - JamesCA, August 9 2011

==Request for disambiguation==
Hi there. I was hoping to work on the page [[poetry]] as well as other pages about poetic forms. However, as it exists right now, there is only the page [[form]] which talks about musical form. I'd like to include a form page about poetry, is there any way someone can disambiguate it into 2 articles, form (music), form (poetry) for me? Or is it preferred that I just start a new section within the existing form page? Much love --[[User:RLorain|RLorain]] 16:27, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

==Question regarding Debate==
Someone posted a new debate semi-recently, [[Debate:Should the United States of America really be counted as a country?]] It was tagged for speedy deletion as it was silly and a non-debate. After a bit, I decided to answer the question, explaining what is necessary for something to be considered a country, and that the US clearly falls into the current definitions. My answer was then copy/pasted onto a new page for the theory of what constitutes a country, and the speedy-deletion tag was removed. No one else has posted on the page, and as the debate is quite silly, is it appropriate for me to delete the page? (And if it is, but I can't, can someone else do it, thanks). - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 03:21, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

==Greetings and couple questions==
I just signed up a couple of days ago or so, so please bare with me as I learn the ropes!
By way of background, I love God and truth and science (like physics, math, electronics, computer programming, etc.) I'm very conservative.
I do have three questions!
First, question: Is edit turned off at night? I work full-time during the day often don't get home till late and sometimes the edit links are gone, But right now, they are on and it's late so maybe it's hit or miss!

Second, is the owner's goal of this site to be a full spectrum source of family friendly information (like with articles on math, science, electronics, etc.) or is it supposed to be more geared toward moral issues or issues specific to conservatism? If full-spectrum, I will be glad to contribute scientific information as time permits.

Third, is the owner's goal to have articles relating to moral issues to carry a conservative slant, or is the goal to be as factual and unbiased as possible?

My tendency is toward truth whether it's comfortable for me or not -- rather than slanted either way.
However I fully respect the site owner's right to run his private property as he wishes and I wouldn't want to upset anybody (or waste my time) making edits that weren't pleasing to the owner.
Thanks & have a great day! [[User:Jesseg|Jesseg]] 01:57, 8 February 2013 (EST)

:Jesseq, three answers...
::1. Editing is sometimes turned off at night at owner's discretion, but productive newbies are granted night-editing privileges.
::2. The goal of the site is a full, online encyclopedia covering as many subjects as possible, with the intent that the content be family-friendly. So, you can pretty much contribute in any subject.
::3. Moral issues can carry a conservative slant, but I believe that these issues should also be in a "right vs wrong" slant as well. We sometimes tell what the liberal side believes in, but we also will tell why that side is wrong at times.
:So, pick a subject, commence editing, check your sources, and do the very best you can. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 02:25, 8 February 2013 (EST)
How do I put those nice little tabs that show your opinions on my user page? I know almost nothing about computers, so help me out here.
[[User:SGrosman|SGrosman]] 15:22, 30 March 2013 (EDT)

==Partnership with Conservapedia==
Hello. I am Superdadsuper, an Administrator and Bureaucrat on [http://bible.wikia.com/wiki/ Biblicalapedia] a biblical-history wiki. This is a very short message but I was wondering if it were possible to have some kind of partnership. We can discuss in more detail when I get a response
Thanks,
Superdadsuper, Biblicalapedia Administrator and Bureaucrat
:Sent message to owner and sysops. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 11:44, 10 December 2014 (EST)

==Delete request==
Hi there, could you please delete this page [[Jeremy Shum]]. Thank you [[User:Matthewbible|Matthewbible]] ([[User talk:Matthewbible|talk]]) 10:14, 25 January 2017 (EST)
:Done.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:52, 20 May 2017 (EDT)

==Unable to edit==
I tried to add a website to the list of conservative humor sites, but my edit never shows, even though I clicked "Save".
anyway the site is: http://thepeoplescube.com/
You can add it if you see this.

==Unknown stalker==
Need assistance; someone is following me on conservapedia and leaving vulgar remarks. The culprit removed a page of text, but I was apparently able to put it back in place. The stalker then again removed the article [[George B. Campbell]].[[User:BHathorn|BHathorn]] ([[User talk:BHathorn|talk]])

== Username change to Winston Smith. ==

Hello, would it possible to change my name from my current one to a new one called Winston Smith? Thanks.
:Just create a winstonsmith account. If there is a way to rename a username via the Wikimedia software, we don't know how to do it.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:40, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
::The user that wrote the request created that account only a few hours ago and only made two edits, both of them being requests to change the username. It's ridiculous to create a new account and immediately ask for a name change without doing anything else. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:41, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

==Please change title of article==
From [[Leroy Shafer]] to Manzell Shafer.[[User:BHathorn|BHathorn]] ([[User talk:BHathorn|talk]]) 13:38, 2 May 2018 (EDT)

:Done! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:20, 2 May 2018 (EDT)

::Hallo. Please also change the title of the article at present called "Karen White alias Stephen Wood alias David Thompson alias". The final word is an error. I don't know how to edit the title or move it to another fresh page. Apologies [[User:GraceDalrymple|GraceDalrymple]] ([[User talk:GraceDalrymple|talk]])

== Username change to Publius. ==
Hey, guys! Am I able to change my username to "Publius?" -- [[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:41, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
:You have to create a new account.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:08, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
::Wait. I thought Andy was able to approve new usernames and change it. Well, at least back in 2009, he was. -- [[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:20, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
:::If you are correct, you could go to Andy's talk page. But why bother him with a request like this? So much easier to create an account called publius1 or publius2, publius472, etc. etc.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:35, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
::::Andy has that power, but he rarely uses it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:52, 9 June 2018 (EDT)

== FUNimation page deleted labled as advertisement when it wasn't. ==
One of the admins deleted the page even though it was against their libral practices like other pages on this wiki. I think it was probably mistaken as advertisement due to lack of sources. I want the page back and I want to improve the page including adding sources. I was following how the page on The Walt Disney Company was created. I think FUNimation needs a page here and was mistakenly deleted. I wanted to tell the admin that deleted it mistaking it for advertisement with my account [[User:Conservaboy|Conservaboy]] but I can't edit for some reason so I made an alt account until that can be fixed. By the way, both account links are red because I haven't put info on them yet and I will do that on my current alt account. -- [[User:Naan|Naan]] 8:19, 13 March 2020 [PT]
:The admin who deleted that page and blocked your account is [[User:Karajou]]. You will need to speak with him on this matter. It was probably seen as an advertising attempt because it is a paid service, and lacked in citations and overall notability. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 11:40, 13 March 2020 (EDT)
::Thanks. I will tell him and I will point out that it was mistaken as an advertisement attempt instead of an actual page and that I forgot to put citations and that I will do that once the page is restored or recreated and add some more information on their shady business practictes that made people upset including removing the cancel function on their service FUNimation now and blamed it on a glitch and provide a link to a YouTube video that proves that they have left wing agenda in their dubs. I'm now back on my original account. -- [[User:Conservaboy|Conservaboy]] 10:43, 13 March 2020 [PT]

==[[Ehsan Sehgal]]==
I came here from Wikipedia to ask whether this site allow anyone to use Conservapedia to shamelessly self promote their-self? This guy has been curating his bio both on Wikipedia and Conservapedia for the past one decade yet remained under the radar. Other than self promotional material, I also found most of the information on his Conservapedia bio is made up and is fabricated. His Wikipedia bio was deleted this week and I'm curious what do you guys think of this Conservapedia bio? --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 15:44, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

:Hi Saqib, we generally do oppose self-promotion articles. The article was imported by [[User:JusticeOfJustice]], who said they are the original author of the text. I will look into it a bit further. Thanks for the heads-up! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:53, 18 May 2020 (EDT)
::@David, JusticeOfJustice is actually Ehsan Sehgal himself. On Wikipedia, his username was Justice007. See this deletion: [thread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ehsan_Sehgal_(4th_nomination)]. --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 16:04, 18 May 2020 (EDT)
:::Mr. Sehgal is very sick. There is no point in upsetting him by deleting the article before he dies. I locked the article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:01, 19 May 2020 (EDT)
::::Yup. I can see [https://web.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10221662477326238&set=pcb.10221662485886452 that]. --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 16:23, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

== CAPTCHA Questions ==
Hello. I have trouble answering some of the CAPTCHA questions relating to the New Testament, because I am Jewish. Is there a way that I can select certain CAPTCHA questions to be removed for my account? [[User:Ethan Parmet|Ethan Parmet]] ([[User talk:Ethan Parmet|talk]]) 16:07, 26 May 2020 (EDT)
: Ask [[User:Aschlafly]] to remove the CAPTCHA from your account. Tell him [[User: Conservative]] recommend him doing so. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:42, 26 May 2020 (EDT)

== Conservapedia in other languages ==
Are there any possibility to create other language versions of Conservapedia for active conservative communities around the world (for example, German, Polish, Russian, Hungarian)? Of course, some of them already have their own wikis, like traditio.wiki, but there are no interwiki links between projects. Such projects also lack base for homeschooling, thus being completely useless for parents with conservative views.
If engine of the Conservapedia could give us the possibility to link to existing wikis in other languages or create the very new language versions, it would be perfect for the development and spreading of the conservative thought worldwide.
[[User:Lakonur|Lakonur]]

:Hmm, interesting idea. Perhaps [[CP]] can be modified so that there's an option to change the displayed language for this online encyclopedia? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Monday, 18:27, 2 November 2020 (EST)

2020-11-27T16:08:34Z

Mikephshdj: Question

==Getting into search results==

I was wondering if there's any way to develop a chrome extension or a user script or something that can replace Wikipedia information in Google search with conservapedia?

Wikipedia is obviously unreliable and it would be nice to have conservapedia results insteadd

==Mobile Site Editing Not Working Properly==
When I try to edit a page on the mobile site, as soon as I tap on a line all the text goes white and I have to try to guess where words are. I constantly have to turn off editing so I can see where sentences and things are, and then turn it back on so I can actually edit them. Is this supposed to happen, or is it a glitch of some kind. [[User:Eholkins|Eholkins]]

:Well that sounds very problematic! No, that is not supposed to happen. It seems to work properly for me, although I typically switch out of mobile view and just scroll around on the standard view instead, just by preference (I know, it sounds crazy, but with good eyes and a large screen, it works). Have you tried a different browser on your phone, such as Firefox? --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:43, 4 June 2019 (EDT)

==Congressman John Fleming==
How can I update his photo? Thanks. Nathan posted that I need to contact an administrator to upload a photo. How do I contact an administrator? [[User:Dustygram|Dustygram]]

:I'll upload it for you now. Please look for it in "Recent changes" (link on right side).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 20:41, 20 May 2017 (EDT)
::Andy Schlafly, I can't find "Recent changes" and a link. Where is this? On the article page? [[User:Dustygram|Dustygram]] ([[User talk:Dustygram|talk]]) 22:34, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
:::The link is on the upper-lefthand corner of the screen, right below the CP logo. However, I have the link to the image here: [[:File:John Flemming.jpg]]. Doing it once should not be a problem, but please post something at the bottom of such a page next time. Thanks for contributing! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:36, 22 May 2017 (EDT)
::::Thanks 1990'sguy for uploading a more recent official portrait. Now, how can I replace the old one with the new one?--[[User:Dustygram|Dustygram]] ([[User talk:Dustygram|talk]]) 12:31, 23 May 2017 (EDT)
:::::This is a very late reply, but I just noticed this never got answered. If you are still looking for an answer, just go to the article, and replace the name of the old image with the name of the new one. For future reference, image uploads can be formally requested here: [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]]. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 18:48, 4 June 2019 (EDT)

== Taking AP Biology ==
Hello, I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but... I am a student in public high school, and am taking AP Biology. I have just learned that Evolution is an entire '''chapter''' in the course. Would it be moral for me to learn evolution without believing it just to pass the test? Or should I drop the course? (This would be very time consuming and difficult)- David {{unsigned|DavidKondner}}
::Nothing immoral about learning about evolution at all. Go for it and you will be pleasantly surprised to learn what evolution is actually like. After all, the majority of people have major misconceptions on what it is which leads to their denial of it. Learning about something from those who support it is always best for learning the truth about the subject, don't limit your understanding of things to just those against it. [[User:Riddles|Riddles]] 23:30, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

I think Riddle is a very smart man and you should listen to what he has to say. No, you don't need to believe in evolutionism, but how are we suppose to become one peaceful humanity without learning about one another. [[user:horenvalle]] 14:01, October 16 2009 (EDT)

:::Learn a falsehood and pretend it's true, and more falsehoods, confusion, depression and errors will follow. Realize that atheists must believe in evolution despite its falsehood and you'll immediately see why they push, and push, and push it in public schools.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:56, 14 October 2009 (EDT)

::::"Know the enemy and know yourself; in a hundred battles you will never peril. [[Sun Tzu]]"
::::If there's ''only'' a chapter on evolution in your course, I'd be amazed. Any non-creationist course on [[biology]] is likely to be [[evolution]]-centric. After all, if one won't accept special [[creation]], it's the only game in town! Just keep in mind the difference between science (testable, repeatable) and just-so stories ("This feature arose because ..."). Here are a couple of links you might find useful and encouraging:
::::*[http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2004/0920classroom.asp ‘Creation evangelism’ in the public school classroom]
::::*[http://creation.com/how-do-i-do-my-assignment-about-evolution How do I do my assignment about evolution?]
::::You also might want to invest in a copy of Evolution Exposed, a book that breaks down the evolutionary assumptions and explanations, explicit and implicit, and provides both brief answers and directions to finding more information on line.
::::In short, you need to know what the evolutionists teach, even if you know it's wrong. ~ ''[[User:Mdotley|Webster]]'' ([[User talk:Mdotley|talk]]) 15:53, 24 October 2009 (EDT)

::better learn the material. College consists of a lot of required courses you have to take but don't have to believe. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 01:05, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

:::All the examples of such requirements consist of learning and reciting anti-Christian beliefs. I'm not aware of any colleges or AP tests that require learning a Christian belief to obtain basic credits.

:::Try homeschooling David, or try a college that does not require recitation of evolutionary beliefs.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:12, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions! In the end I decided to take the course and found out it wasn’t nearly as bad as a thought it would be. I expressed my concerns to my teacher beforehand and he was very understanding. Before we started the unit he was very clear to the class that evolution was a theory and we were under no obligation whatsoever to believe evolution, however he still expects us to know the material for the AP exam. It’s amazing how similar some of God’s creatures can be and I can almost see how a Godless Atheist might believe they once shared a common ancestor. All in all, the course has been an enlightening experience and, for the most part, has given me greater respect and appreciation for God’s creatures and life in general. --[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 14:59, 3 February 2010 (EST)

:Davidkon, we have no way to confirm your experience, but even if true it is not typically for public school science teachers, most of whom can be very liberal and very dogmatic about the theory of evolution. Also, I find it odd that "he still expects us to know the material for the AP exam." AP exams are like extra credit, for an extra charge, and are rarely a requirement of any public school class.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:21, 3 February 2010 (EST)

As I’ve said before, my AP Bio class is relatively harmless, but my AP government class is sure getting out of hand! The entire class is one big batch of liberal propaganda about how social reform is “necessary” and how that the current conservative platform on homosexuality is one of “intolerance and bigotry”, and that’s a direct quote from the textbook! There are countless other biases that I have to deal with on a daily basis. On top of that when I asked my teacher about concerns the course is liberally biased, she told me “David, I’m sorry to tell you this, but ''reality'' has a liberal bias.” Can you believe that!?!--[[User:Davidkon|Davidkon]] 22:22, 2 March 2010 (EST)

== Unable to edit? ==
I would like to post the following to the Jesse Helms article after "Foreign Policy" but am locked out. I don't know why. {{unsigned|BertSchlossberg}}
: Editing is often turned off overnight (U.S. time), which may have been your problem, although that means that you shouldn't have been able to post here, so unless it was turned back on in the meantime, I can't explain it. Would you like to try it again? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:47, 19 December 2007 (EST)

:: Right. The [[Jesse Helms]] entry is not locked.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:06, 19 December 2007 (EST)

==When only part of an article is accepted==
I recently posted an entry, [[F-105 Thunderchief]], and included a references section and a category, but in the final article, neither section shows up, although they are clearly present when the "Edit" button is clicked. Just now, this happened again with another entry I tried to make. What gives? Does the site only accept so much information in a new entry? --[[User:Frey|Frey]] 17:58, 27 February 2008 (EST)
:You had a bad <nowiki><ref></nowiki> tag which I have fixed. [[User:BrianCo|BrianCo]] 18:02, 27 February 2008 (EST)
::I did? Oopsie. And thanks.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:09, 27 February 2008 (EST)

==KAL 007 article on Main page==
I would like to propose having the article [[Korean Airlines Flight 007]] as a featured article on the Main page. Thanks.[[User:BertSchlossberg|BertSchlossberg]] 15:32, 1 March 2008 (EST)
(finally got it right!)

: I'd like to review it in detail and hear what others think about it. On its surface, without yet studying it, it appears to be a major work. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:58, 1 March 2008 (EST)
:: There's a [[Conservapedia:Featured articles|page]] for listing proposed featured articles. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 17:52, 1 March 2008 (EST)

==To Kill The Child/Leaving Beirut==
I just wrote an exteremly long and extensive article about these two songs. Then, when I went to save the page, it said that it did not save it because there was a quote in their to explain about the song that contained a profanity. What gives? I thought that this website was supposed to educate people, yet people cannot be educated if they cannot know what the article is talking about and what the proof is. {{unsigned|Std}}
: We have a profanity filter for good reason, but sometimes exceptions need to be made. You haven't supplied enough information for us to judge if this warrants an exception. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:47, 10 April 2008 (EDT)

::What exactly are the exeptions that would get me the warrent?
::How do you upload an image?{{unsigned|Std}} on 10 April 2008, 21:26

:::You have to ask an administrator. There was a problem with people uploading obscene materials. [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 00:42, 11 April 2008 (EDT)
:::An exception would be warranted if, for example, the word caught by the filter was not objectionable in the context. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 02:57, 11 April 2008 (EDT)

== Article on Larry McDonald ==
Can anyone do an article on Cong. [[Larry McDonald]], a passenger aboard KAL 007? —[[User:BertSchlossberg|BertSchlossberg]] 07:01, 8 May 2008 (EDT)

==Proposal==
I wrote some time ago about making plans to build Conservapedia into a force to be reckoned with. This site has the potential to become a powerful tool, but still has a ways to go, I think. As an example, I just did a search on [http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI= ACORN], a group funded by leftist billionaire [[George Soros]] that is becoming a very serious threat to the integrity of local elections. All I found was a one-line page about the oak tree. Of course the solution to this is to simply create the page myself. But I don't think this solves the larger issue; to my knowledge, there isn't a program of incentives inviting conservatives to contribute high-quality information and research articles on our opposition. How do we do this?

For one, I take it that Conservapedia gets some heavy traffic. Heavy traffic = $$$ in potential advertising revenue. Use that money to attract the right people to help build Conservapedia into a powerhouse of information. This could include rewards for college students, or hired admins (background checked with references and resume, of course). Perhaps contact county or state Republican/conservative groups, show what you've done, and propose a team effort to get more people to contribute articles to the web site.

In short, there's a million ways that this project can grow, and it is more important to me that the conservative cause succeeds than to keep these ideas to myself. My hope is that someone reading this will take hold of them... [[User:Alexander|Alexander]] 17:35, 29 May 2008 (EDT)

== IP address unblock request ==
My IP address at home appears to have been blocked. Could someone please unblock me? [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 15:16, 27 June 2008 (EDT)

==Bobby R. Himes==
I have a photo for the new article [[Bobby R. Himes]]. Can I get permission to upload it?[[User: Bhathorn|Bhathorn]] 18:24, 29 August 2008 (EDT)
: If the picture is on-line (and available for Conservapedia to use, of course), post the address here or click [[Special:Emailuser/Philip_J._Rayment|here]] to e-mail me the link and I can upload it to Conservapedia for you. If it's on your computer, e-mail me via that link anyway and I will reply with my e-mail address for you to e-mail me the picture, so I can then upload it. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:59, 29 August 2008 (EDT)

==Banning policy?==
Hello, I represent a website interested in your work. However recently a member of ours, JMcClane used your website and edited a page on Obama because it stated he was a Muslim, which it has been proven he isn't, he has been banned for 5 years, care to comment? It was a JPatt who did the banning, would he like to comment too?
:JMcClane removed a large amount of material in that article and replaced it with this:
::''"Obama is regularly mistaken as Islamic due to his second name, in fact he is not Muslim though stands for equality between religions. He is in fact Christian, though rumours were spread by Conservative spin Doctors hoping to turn the public against him."''
:And who is JMcClane to you? Care to comment on that? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:16, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

:Beyond the fact that you didn't answer my question mate, we're part of the same website who are interested in the current election in America, you might have heard of it. He became involved in this site and this happened, so I reiterate, gonna answer the question properly?
::I did answer your question, "mate", and you're not going to act like you run ''this place''; you will answer mine now. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:33, 12 October 2008 (EDT)

:As I said, we're part of the same website. I'm sorry about the mate comments, I'm just friendly like that. You've said you banned him cause of the edit, but isn't it kind of harsh as it is proven he's not Muslim so the entire article was pointless. That's all I'd like to know. And 5 years does seem steep.

Which website do you represent? Why are you interested in Conservapedia? Our banning policy is carefully calibrated and appropriate to the demands of the various situations. And sign your posts with four tildes, please; we are not interested in anonymous 'contributions'. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:10, 17 October 2008 (EDT)

==Google misdirection==
In Google Search, the entry for ""Alger Hiss - Conservapedia" was changed today from "http://www.conservapedia.com/Alger_Hiss" to misdirect to the nonexistent Web page "http://www.conservativeencyclopedia.com/wiki/Alger_Hiss." Is there a way to ask Google to restore the correct link? [[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 13:19, 4 February 2009 (EST)

*Thanks for noticing and reporting this, FOIA, but nothing needs to be done. When we had the hard drive failure, and temporarily re-directed, the search engine bots picked that up. Now that things are restored, the bots will report back to all the search engines, and in due time will be directing properly. The Google (and all other engines) are smart enough to compare and repair. Or so they say. Administrator Conservative might have more insight into this, and I have linked him to this page. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 14:23, 4 February 2009 (EST)
** For what its worth, Google is pretty much 100% automated. They almost never manually intervene in their search results, and that's generally due to a court or otherwise governmental order. [[User:ArthurA|ArthurA]] 14:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)
*** You mean that they generally ''only'' intervene due to court or governmental orders, correct? [[User:Npov2|Npov2]] 00:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

== Copyright? ==
I'd like to comment that [[:File:Kathleen Sebelius.jpg]] should probably be tagged as “fair use” rather than as “public domain.” Also, I think the description of the {{tl|commons}} template, both in [[Help:List of Templates]] and in the template body itself, is slightly misleading: items in Wikimedia Commons are not necessarily in the public domain. Thank you. [[User:Npov2|Npov2]] 00:56, 24 April 2009 (EDT)

Why does the Conservapedia page on the 1951 movie, "The Thing From Another World" say that, "The film is now in the public domain."? Was there a problem with the copyright, or its renewal?

In suspense,

William Clark

tmcgeeclark@yahoo.com

== Google Gadget? ==
I understand that [[google]] has problems, but has there ever been thought to developing a "Google Gadget" with a conservapedia news feed?[[User:Mrguido45|Mrguido45]] 20:59, 9 June 2009 (EDT)

== Evolution feature on the Main Page ==
The section of the main page devoted to the Evolution article states that, "In 2006, the prestigious science journal Science reported concerning the United States: "The percentage of people in the country who accept the idea of evolution has declined from 45 in 1985 to 40 in 2005. Meanwhile the fraction of Americans unsure about evolution has soared from 7 per cent in 1985 to 21 per cent last year." The study was conducted with 2000 Americans (approximately), selected by pseudo-random digit dialing over the telephone. the study found that the portion of people unsure about evolution has increased in a statistically significant manner. The second finding of the study was that the proportion of people who believe in evolution and creationism have not changed in any statistically significant way (i.e.: That the p-value of the 1985 and 2005 data sets is greater than 0.05 - simply put, that there is not enough detectable difference between the respondents in 1985 and 2005 to make any kind of statement about it). Essentially, the study cited on the main page didn't actually prove that the public belief in evolution is declining. I would request a change to that article to remove the irrelevant citation about a decrease in evolutionary thinking among Americans. [[User: Praboud|Praboud]] 19:52, 15 June 2009 (EDT)

== Referred to as a Methodist ==
Hi, I am not sure if this is the right location to ask this, but at the bottom of my user page there is a category section that says "Category: Methodist Conservapedians". I didn't place that there and it isn't available for editing out when I look at the editable content for my user page. I only bring this up because I am not a Methodist and I do not wish to mislead anyone into thinking I am. I do not know who added me to this category or why, or somehow if I accidentally did this myself. If possible, may I be added to the "Agnostic conservapedians" category instead? Thank you. -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 8:42, 20 June 2009 [EDT]

:It appears to be because of your userbox "This user believes in the United States Constitution." When I tried putting it on my user page, the Methodist category automatically appeared there as well. --[[User:OscarJ|OscarJ]] 09:02, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

::Fixed. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 11:20, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

== I might be wrong... ==
But I do see quite a bit of bias on Conservapedia. If this is supposed to be "The Trustworthy Encyclopedia" then shouldn't bias be removed? I think that some of the articles are great and others are blatantly biased based upon the authors moral views. I know that some of the topics go against the beliefs of the people who run this site but it isn't a great way to run things. Tolerance of others and their beliefs, no matter what we think of them, is what Conservapedia should be about. Just my opinion and nothing more.

:Just your '''unsupported''' opinion and nothing more, you might have said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:35, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

::I could have, but I figured that people would pick that up from "'''I might be wrong...'''". I never had any beliefs that my opinions were supported here, as I had to make an effort to "vocalize" them. Generally people on and off of the internet don't support my opinions.

:::What I meant was that you made a claim of bias without providing any examples to support your claim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:02, 20 June 2009 (EDT)

::::Ah. [[http://www.conservapedia.com/Che_Guevara]] "Ernesto "Che" Guevara" "became a cultural icon for" "'''dumb white teenagers'''." [[http://www.conservapedia.com/Communism]] "Communism is an atheistic political system" Although extremely hilarious, I think that those articles are somewhat biased and detract from Conservapedia's accountability. I have not seen Wikipedia style hijackings yet though.

==Tau ceti to Tau Ceti==
I created an article called [[Tau ceti]], but it should be [[Tau Ceti]], is there anyway the name can be reset as the latter? Thank you. -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:00, 24 June 2009 [EDT]

:Yes, there [[Tau Ceti|'''is''']]. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 16:17, 24 June 2009 (EDT)

:: Thanks! -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 16:22, 24 June 2009 [EDT]

: In MediaWiki the proper way to do it is by a "move" operation, which preserves the editing and talk history. This feature is not currently enabled in Conservapedia for regular users. Ask an administrator to do it. — [[User:Philcooper81|Philcooper81]][[User_talk:Philcooper81|T]] 16:31, 26 February 2013 (EST)

==Alger Hiss==
I just tried to link to The Encyclopedia of Ukraine at and got this message:

::Spam protection filter

::The page you wanted to save was blocked by the spam filter. This is probably caused by a link to a blacklisted external site.

The spam filter apparently mistook part of the URL for an obscenity.

Is there any way to fix this? Thanks![[User:FOIA|FOIA]] 21:40, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

*You can give the URL without making it a link, so that people can copy and paste the link into their own browser, but I am not inclined to unblock any part of that corner of the world, for pretty obvious reasons. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]/Admin[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]] 21:44, 3 July 2009 (EDT)

==Kapteyn's star to Kapteyn's Star==
The article I created called [[Kapteyn's star]] was created with a lower case s for star, it should be upper case, could someone with the rights change the title to [[Kapteyn's Star]]? Thank you. -- [[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 15:00, 8 July 2009 [EDT]

== Double Redirects ==
All three of the current [[Special:doubleredirects|double redirects]] are protected. Could a Sysop fix them, please? Thanks. ~ ''[[User:Mdotley|Webster]]'' ([[User talk:Mdotley|talk]]) 22:18, 17 September 2009 (EDT)

==I'm having a bit of trouble with some linking==
I'm trying to get the "Weather Report" and "Return to Forever" articles to link to jazz fusion. Instead, it's linking me to another jazz fusion article that I accidentally created and was recently deleted. Any help is much appreciated. [[User:Jdelong11|Jdelong11]]

: Did my change fix this?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:55, 28 December 2009 (EST)

==Username change==
Is it possible to change one's username? I haven't decided what I want the new one to be but will let you know when I have.--[[User:TedM|TedM]] 13:30, 27 September 2009 (EDT)

If this is possible, I would also be interested in doing so, since I have been recently denuked, and it would be disingenuous to continue with this username. [[User:Navy Nuke|Navy Nuke]]

:Sure, just provide your requested new name here and I'll change it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 08:35, 1 December 2009 (EST)

I'd to change my username to JonathanDP81. I'm standardizing my username across all my websites. [[User:JonathanDP|JonathanDP]] 10:47, 19 June 2010 (EDT)

==User additions to this site==
Hi, I'm new here and I'm interested in adding some content to Conservapedia, namely in respect to firearm laws. Just a cursory glace makes me think that users can only edit existing topics? Am I wrong?
--[[User:LibGunslinger|LibGunslinger]] 11:28, Dec 10 2009
:You can add new pages if you so desire.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 14:32, 10 December 2009 (EST)

==Nova==
I believe this is right place to ask this, so here I am. I want to write an article on the astronomical phenomenon known as a "Nova", however all search on this site for that word is already directed towards "NOVA", a stub on the PBS series of that name. Should I rebuild that article to focus on the astronomical phenomena as that is what the base definition of a nova means? Or start a whole new article, such as "nova_(star)"? Thanks. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 13:18, 28 December 2009 (EST)

: I'll move "NOVA" to "NOVA (PBS)", and you can then have "Nova". Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:56, 28 December 2009 (EST)

::I turned the NOVA page into a disambiguation page that now points to both [[NOVA_(PBS)]] and [[Nova_(star)]], is this good? May want to make it Nova instead of NOVA though. --[[User:BMcP|BMcP]] 17:29, 28 December 2009 (EST)

:::It's fine as you did it. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:53, 28 December 2009 (EST)

==Writing Plan==
User Ed Poor requested a writing plan from me. How exactly do I submit it to him?
Thank you. --[[User:JohnLee|JohnLee]] 16:53, 11 October 2010 (EDT)

: Anyone can post to his talk page: [[User talk:Ed Poor]]. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:00, 11 October 2010 (EDT)

==Editing complaint==
Someone started a debate page without posting any comments, so I decided to start the discussion. I spent about half an hour writing the post, clicked on save, and was redirected to a page informing me that I didn't have permission to edit it (Probably because it was the first post). And I was unable to go back and copy/paste what I'd written to post it later. Can someone please fix this so that if you click on a page to edit that you can't edit, it tells you straight away and doesn't simply waste your time. Thanks. - JamesCA, 31 July 2011
:And something similar. I recently tried to edit a page because some of the information was out of date, and did not find out until after I tried to save it, that it was locked for only administrators to edit. - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 19:02, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

::Both of the above comments surprise me, and the software should not lose information as you described. The browser being used may have an effect on this also.

::I thought that locked pages (which I think are a very small percentage of entries here) announced themselves as such when there is an attempt to edit them. The browser should not discard information regardless.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:11, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

:::It looks like you lock up editing at night. Is it possible that these folks were just caught by the deadline? --[[User:DrDean|DrDean]] 20:03, 29 August 2011 (EDT)
::::That is possible, I just tried editing the same page, and it worked. Also, because of my different timezone, I sometimes find that while looking through Conservapedia articles, the edit tag suddenly disappears, because the deadline suddenly comes in. Is there a way to check how long until the deadline? I'll check to make sure the information actually is lost when I get a chance. And does the deadline cut off at the same time every night? And also, who can start new pages (including debate pages)? Thanks - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 21:56, 29 August 2011 (EDT)

==Christianity and Politics==
I'm wondering what is your take (creators of conservapedia) on the mixing of Christianity and politics? I ask because as a young Christian I'm a little confused about how much focus I should give for politics alongside my faith. Other opinions I've read disregard politics completely within a Christian life, as if Christians in general should simply accept and respect whatever form of government rules over them regardless of the corruption or misguided policies such governments may contribute to the falling of the nation. Please clarify this conundrum for me as I feel uncertain if politics should be in any part of my life. God bless. --[[User:gravis57|gravis57]] 12:32PM, 8 August 2011 (EDT)
:Do you mean with regards to being active in politics, or how much your religious beliefs should influence your political opinions? One suggestion, try coming up with and arguing using non-religious points to support views that stem from religious beliefs. It'll enable you to more effectively argue against those who believe that the Bible alone is not enough to justify moral opinions. It'll also give you a wider range of arguments you can call on when discussing religion, politics or morality, and will enable you to more easily come up with counterpoints to arguments that you've never come across before. For example, if you're arguing against gay marriage, try using points such as family values, and the effect it would have on the institution of marriage, instead of using (only) quotes from Leviticus and Deuteronomy, and points based around what God says. - JamesCA (not a creator of conservapedia), August 9 2011

:Not exactly. I'm asking as a Christian to another Christian(s) as to how much politics should be a part of my life, or if they should even be apart of it at all. I mean while the founders of this great nation used God's principles to create a system of government that ensured rights, liberty, and freedom--is it wrong or vain to wish to inform, protect, or care about my country when Christ called us to spread his Word and not (unless I'm mistaken) deal with lesser matters in regard to such (political) things. This is where I'm confused about whether I should become even somewhat active within politics or simply disregard it entirely to focus on Christianity. - gravis57, August 8, 2011

:It's not wrong, and it's not vain, to wish to inform, protect or care about your country. It's part of serving one's country, part of helping people. There are many varied ways that you can help and serve people, and God. Christ called us not just to spread his Word, but to serve. 'For the son of God came not to be served, but to serve.' Can you serve God by becoming involved in politics? Maybe. Could you help people by becoming involved in politics, and by getting Congress to give them what they need? Or would it be better for you to serve another way? If you did become involved in politics, would it make it more difficult for you to serve God? I guess my general point is this: you can still serve God and the people by becoming involved in politics, but whether or not that is the best place for you to serve is a different matter. I'm starting to think that I might not be able to give you as good of an answer as you're looking for. Hopefully someone else will see this and help answer your question. Note about dates: different time zones is causing the inconsistent dates. - JamesCA, August 9 2011

==Request for disambiguation==
Hi there. I was hoping to work on the page [[poetry]] as well as other pages about poetic forms. However, as it exists right now, there is only the page [[form]] which talks about musical form. I'd like to include a form page about poetry, is there any way someone can disambiguate it into 2 articles, form (music), form (poetry) for me? Or is it preferred that I just start a new section within the existing form page? Much love --[[User:RLorain|RLorain]] 16:27, 27 August 2011 (EDT)

==Question regarding Debate==
Someone posted a new debate semi-recently, [[Debate:Should the United States of America really be counted as a country?]] It was tagged for speedy deletion as it was silly and a non-debate. After a bit, I decided to answer the question, explaining what is necessary for something to be considered a country, and that the US clearly falls into the current definitions. My answer was then copy/pasted onto a new page for the theory of what constitutes a country, and the speedy-deletion tag was removed. No one else has posted on the page, and as the debate is quite silly, is it appropriate for me to delete the page? (And if it is, but I can't, can someone else do it, thanks). - [[User:JamesCA|JamesCA]] 03:21, 14 October 2011 (EDT)

==Greetings and couple questions==
I just signed up a couple of days ago or so, so please bare with me as I learn the ropes!
By way of background, I love God and truth and science (like physics, math, electronics, computer programming, etc.) I'm very conservative.
I do have three questions!
First, question: Is edit turned off at night? I work full-time during the day often don't get home till late and sometimes the edit links are gone, But right now, they are on and it's late so maybe it's hit or miss!

Second, is the owner's goal of this site to be a full spectrum source of family friendly information (like with articles on math, science, electronics, etc.) or is it supposed to be more geared toward moral issues or issues specific to conservatism? If full-spectrum, I will be glad to contribute scientific information as time permits.

Third, is the owner's goal to have articles relating to moral issues to carry a conservative slant, or is the goal to be as factual and unbiased as possible?

My tendency is toward truth whether it's comfortable for me or not -- rather than slanted either way.
However I fully respect the site owner's right to run his private property as he wishes and I wouldn't want to upset anybody (or waste my time) making edits that weren't pleasing to the owner.
Thanks & have a great day! [[User:Jesseg|Jesseg]] 01:57, 8 February 2013 (EST)

:Jesseq, three answers...
::1. Editing is sometimes turned off at night at owner's discretion, but productive newbies are granted night-editing privileges.
::2. The goal of the site is a full, online encyclopedia covering as many subjects as possible, with the intent that the content be family-friendly. So, you can pretty much contribute in any subject.
::3. Moral issues can carry a conservative slant, but I believe that these issues should also be in a "right vs wrong" slant as well. We sometimes tell what the liberal side believes in, but we also will tell why that side is wrong at times.
:So, pick a subject, commence editing, check your sources, and do the very best you can. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 02:25, 8 February 2013 (EST)
How do I put those nice little tabs that show your opinions on my user page? I know almost nothing about computers, so help me out here.
[[User:SGrosman|SGrosman]] 15:22, 30 March 2013 (EDT)

==Partnership with Conservapedia==
Hello. I am Superdadsuper, an Administrator and Bureaucrat on [http://bible.wikia.com/wiki/ Biblicalapedia] a biblical-history wiki. This is a very short message but I was wondering if it were possible to have some kind of partnership. We can discuss in more detail when I get a response
Thanks,
Superdadsuper, Biblicalapedia Administrator and Bureaucrat
:Sent message to owner and sysops. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 11:44, 10 December 2014 (EST)

==Delete request==
Hi there, could you please delete this page [[Jeremy Shum]]. Thank you [[User:Matthewbible|Matthewbible]] ([[User talk:Matthewbible|talk]]) 10:14, 25 January 2017 (EST)
:Done.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:52, 20 May 2017 (EDT)

==Unable to edit==
I tried to add a website to the list of conservative humor sites, but my edit never shows, even though I clicked "Save".
anyway the site is: http://thepeoplescube.com/
You can add it if you see this.

==Unknown stalker==
Need assistance; someone is following me on conservapedia and leaving vulgar remarks. The culprit removed a page of text, but I was apparently able to put it back in place. The stalker then again removed the article [[George B. Campbell]].[[User:BHathorn|BHathorn]] ([[User talk:BHathorn|talk]])

== Username change to Winston Smith. ==

Hello, would it possible to change my name from my current one to a new one called Winston Smith? Thanks.
:Just create a winstonsmith account. If there is a way to rename a username via the Wikimedia software, we don't know how to do it.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:40, 21 March 2018 (EDT)
::The user that wrote the request created that account only a few hours ago and only made two edits, both of them being requests to change the username. It's ridiculous to create a new account and immediately ask for a name change without doing anything else. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:41, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

==Please change title of article==
From [[Leroy Shafer]] to Manzell Shafer.[[User:BHathorn|BHathorn]] ([[User talk:BHathorn|talk]]) 13:38, 2 May 2018 (EDT)

:Done! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:20, 2 May 2018 (EDT)

::Hallo. Please also change the title of the article at present called "Karen White alias Stephen Wood alias David Thompson alias". The final word is an error. I don't know how to edit the title or move it to another fresh page. Apologies [[User:GraceDalrymple|GraceDalrymple]] ([[User talk:GraceDalrymple|talk]])

== Username change to Publius. ==
Hey, guys! Am I able to change my username to "Publius?" -- [[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 14:41, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
:You have to create a new account.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:08, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
::Wait. I thought Andy was able to approve new usernames and change it. Well, at least back in 2009, he was. -- [[User:Geopolitician|Geopolitician]] ([[User talk:Geopolitician|talk]]) 15:20, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
:::If you are correct, you could go to Andy's talk page. But why bother him with a request like this? So much easier to create an account called publius1 or publius2, publius472, etc. etc.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:35, 9 June 2018 (EDT)
::::Andy has that power, but he rarely uses it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:52, 9 June 2018 (EDT)

== FUNimation page deleted labled as advertisement when it wasn't. ==
One of the admins deleted the page even though it was against their libral practices like other pages on this wiki. I think it was probably mistaken as advertisement due to lack of sources. I want the page back and I want to improve the page including adding sources. I was following how the page on The Walt Disney Company was created. I think FUNimation needs a page here and was mistakenly deleted. I wanted to tell the admin that deleted it mistaking it for advertisement with my account [[User:Conservaboy|Conservaboy]] but I can't edit for some reason so I made an alt account until that can be fixed. By the way, both account links are red because I haven't put info on them yet and I will do that on my current alt account. -- [[User:Naan|Naan]] 8:19, 13 March 2020 [PT]
:The admin who deleted that page and blocked your account is [[User:Karajou]]. You will need to speak with him on this matter. It was probably seen as an advertising attempt because it is a paid service, and lacked in citations and overall notability. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 11:40, 13 March 2020 (EDT)
::Thanks. I will tell him and I will point out that it was mistaken as an advertisement attempt instead of an actual page and that I forgot to put citations and that I will do that once the page is restored or recreated and add some more information on their shady business practictes that made people upset including removing the cancel function on their service FUNimation now and blamed it on a glitch and provide a link to a YouTube video that proves that they have left wing agenda in their dubs. I'm now back on my original account. -- [[User:Conservaboy|Conservaboy]] 10:43, 13 March 2020 [PT]

==[[Ehsan Sehgal]]==
I came here from Wikipedia to ask whether this site allow anyone to use Conservapedia to shamelessly self promote their-self? This guy has been curating his bio both on Wikipedia and Conservapedia for the past one decade yet remained under the radar. Other than self promotional material, I also found most of the information on his Conservapedia bio is made up and is fabricated. His Wikipedia bio was deleted this week and I'm curious what do you guys think of this Conservapedia bio? --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 15:44, 18 May 2020 (EDT)

:Hi Saqib, we generally do oppose self-promotion articles. The article was imported by [[User:JusticeOfJustice]], who said they are the original author of the text. I will look into it a bit further. Thanks for the heads-up! --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:53, 18 May 2020 (EDT)
::@David, JusticeOfJustice is actually Ehsan Sehgal himself. On Wikipedia, his username was Justice007. See this deletion: [thread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ehsan_Sehgal_(4th_nomination)]. --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 16:04, 18 May 2020 (EDT)
:::Mr. Sehgal is very sick. There is no point in upsetting him by deleting the article before he dies. I locked the article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:01, 19 May 2020 (EDT)
::::Yup. I can see [https://web.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10221662477326238&set=pcb.10221662485886452 that]. --[[User:Saqib|Saqib]] ([[User talk:Saqib|talk]]) 16:23, 20 May 2020 (EDT)

== CAPTCHA Questions ==
Hello. I have trouble answering some of the CAPTCHA questions relating to the New Testament, because I am Jewish. Is there a way that I can select certain CAPTCHA questions to be removed for my account? [[User:Ethan Parmet|Ethan Parmet]] ([[User talk:Ethan Parmet|talk]]) 16:07, 26 May 2020 (EDT)
: Ask [[User:Aschlafly]] to remove the CAPTCHA from your account. Tell him [[User: Conservative]] recommend him doing so. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:42, 26 May 2020 (EDT)

== Conservapedia in other languages ==
Are there any possibility to create other language versions of Conservapedia for active conservative communities around the world (for example, German, Polish, Russian, Hungarian)? Of course, some of them already have their own wikis, like traditio.wiki, but there are no interwiki links between projects. Such projects also lack base for homeschooling, thus being completely useless for parents with conservative views.
If engine of the Conservapedia could give us the possibility to link to existing wikis in other languages or create the very new language versions, it would be perfect for the development and spreading of the conservative thought worldwide.
[[User:Lakonur|Lakonur]]

:Hmm, interesting idea. Perhaps [[CP]] can be modified so that there's an option to change the displayed language for this online encyclopedia? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Monday, 18:27, 2 November 2020 (EST)