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		<title>Talk:Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: /* The Muslim Section */&lt;/p&gt;
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Keith Ellis is from Minnesota not Illinois. Neither Keith Ellis or Barack Obama received donations from Middle Eastern countries.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Then why is he keeping his campaign donations secret? Answer: they are coming from compromised foreign Muslim sources.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:15, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*''Fancy French mustard?''  Are you being serious?  I have been to a place in Madison, Wisconsin that has a &amp;quot;Dijon Burger&amp;quot;. And the area is known for its sausages, Brats, and most places routinely offer that kind of mustard. Granted Madison is a bastion of fuzzy liberal thinking, but still...  And your statement about their being &amp;quot;lots of ways to attack him&amp;quot; is totally out of place here.  We are an encyclopedia, and therefore do not &amp;quot;attack&amp;quot;. If you, or anyone, want to think adding facts is the same as attacking, that is just clap-trap. Your Grey Poupon suggestion smacks of disingenuous mischief. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The best criticism of Obama you can think of, is he isn't familiar with American burger joints? I personally find the average burger joint greasy and disgusting (and usually trayf), that doesn't mean I'm un-American.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:06, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, thanks for following up with me. The reason my proposal is not &amp;quot;disingenuous mischief&amp;quot; is that it is not my creation. As I linked, the criticism comes from reputable sources like Sean Hannity, as well as Ingraham, Limbaugh and many others I forget. Also, and very importantly, it is not merely about mustard but about the media fawning over him (see the legal insurrection link). It is popular conservative discussion. Thus, if we are to have a section on elitism, and given the solid sources, it merits discussion. If it then does not make it in, or we decide that the Elitism section for some reason is not justified (I would object), then I will accept. Another point I was to argue is about the attack. Conservapedia does not have to be the attacker, but it should help the reader to formulate an attack. The best niche for our 'pedia is to be where conservatives go to help develop an attack on a liberal or anti-American position. If someone wants to show Obama is an elitist, he can come to the Elitism section, follow the links and choose which arguments to make. And if he wants to prove Obama's a Muslim, he can ignore Elitism completely. On the other hand, if we just want to be a synopsis facts without direction, we are competing with Google and Wikipedia. It thus helps to include as many attacks as possible as long as they are vetted. Maybe I'm wrong or in the minority. And BTW, River Falls.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:07, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing as so many people find the position to be a problem, and more importantly that moving the ToC up would bury important information on Obamas muslim faith, could we include the ToC into the muslim &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; section, as a side colum perhaps? Just a suggestion --[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like that. How about the following: Make &amp;quot;Religion: Described in the article&amp;quot; link to the relevant section(s), shorten the intro and integrate many of the details into the body or into new sections, then bring up the ToC. That way, the ToC is early, but the Muslim section is not push very far down. (Note that one of my criticisms tacitly in mind above is that the intro section rambles and the TOC is not first.) [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:12, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Keith Ellis is from Minnesota not Illinois. Neither Keith Ellis or Barack Obama received donations from Middle Eastern countries.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Then why is he keeping his campaign donations secret? Answer: they are coming from foreign Muslims.&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*''Fancy French mustard?''  Are you being serious?  I have been to a place in Madison, Wisconsin that has a &amp;quot;Dijon Burger&amp;quot;. And the area is known for its sausages, Brats, and most places routinely offer that kind of mustard. Granted Madison is a bastion of fuzzy liberal thinking, but still...  And your statement about their being &amp;quot;lots of ways to attack him&amp;quot; is totally out of place here.  We are an encyclopedia, and therefore do not &amp;quot;attack&amp;quot;. If you, or anyone, want to think adding facts is the same as attacking, that is just clap-trap. Your Grey Poupon suggestion smacks of disingenuous mischief. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The best criticism of Obama you can think of, is he isn't familiar with American burger joints? I personally find the average burger joint greasy and disgusting (and usually trayf), that doesn't mean I'm un-American.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:06, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, thanks for following up with me. The reason my proposal is not &amp;quot;disingenuous mischief&amp;quot; is that it is not my creation. As I linked, the criticism comes from reputable sources like Sean Hannity, as well as Ingraham, Limbaugh and many others I forget. Also, and very importantly, it is not merely about mustard but about the media fawning over him (see the legal insurrection link). It is popular conservative discussion. Thus, if we are to have a section on elitism, and given the solid sources, it merits discussion. If it then does not make it in, or we decide that the Elitism section for some reason is not justified (I would object), then I will accept. Another point I was to argue is about the attack. Conservapedia does not have to be the attacker, but it should help the reader to formulate an attack. The best niche for our 'pedia is to be where conservatives go to help develop an attack on a liberal or anti-American position. If someone wants to show Obama is an elitist, he can come to the Elitism section, follow the links and choose which arguments to make. And if he wants to prove Obama's a Muslim, he can ignore Elitism completely. On the other hand, if we just want to be a synopsis facts without direction, we are competing with Google and Wikipedia. It thus helps to include as many attacks as possible as long as they are vetted. Maybe I'm wrong or in the minority. And BTW, River Falls.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:07, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing as so many people find the position to be a problem, and more importantly that moving the ToC up would bury important information on Obamas muslim faith, could we include the ToC into the muslim &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; section, as a side colum perhaps? Just a suggestion --[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like that. How about the following: Make &amp;quot;Religion: Described in the article&amp;quot; link to the relevant section(s), shorten the intro and integrate many of the details into the body or into new sections, then bring up the ToC. That way, the ToC is early, but the Muslim section is not push very far down. (Note that one of my criticisms tacitly in mind above is that the intro section rambles and the TOC is not first.) [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:12, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Keith Ellis is from Minnesota not Illinois. Neither Keith Ellis or Barack Obama received donations from Middle Eastern countries.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*''Fancy French mustard?''  Are you being serious?  I have been to a place in Madison, Wisconsin that has a &amp;quot;Dijon Burger&amp;quot;. And the area is known for its sausages, Brats, and most places routinely offer that kind of mustard. Granted Madison is a bastion of fuzzy liberal thinking, but still...  And your statement about their being &amp;quot;lots of ways to attack him&amp;quot; is totally out of place here.  We are an encyclopedia, and therefore do not &amp;quot;attack&amp;quot;. If you, or anyone, want to think adding facts is the same as attacking, that is just clap-trap. Your Grey Poupon suggestion smacks of disingenuous mischief. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The best criticism of Obama you can think of, is he isn't familiar with American burger joints? I personally find the average burger joint greasy and disgusting (and usually trayf), that doesn't mean I'm un-American.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:06, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, thanks for following up with me. The reason my proposal is not &amp;quot;disingenuous mischief&amp;quot; is that it is not my creation. As I linked, the criticism comes from reputable sources like Sean Hannity, as well as Ingraham, Limbaugh and many others I forget. Also, and very importantly, it is not merely about mustard but about the media fawning over him (see the legal insurrection link). It is popular conservative discussion. Thus, if we are to have a section on elitism, and given the solid sources, it merits discussion. If it then does not make it in, or we decide that the Elitism section for some reason is not justified (I would object), then I will accept. Another point I was to argue is about the attack. Conservapedia does not have to be the attacker, but it should help the reader to formulate an attack. The best niche for our 'pedia is to be where conservatives go to help develop an attack on a liberal or anti-American position. If someone wants to show Obama is an elitist, he can come to the Elitism section, follow the links and choose which arguments to make. And if he wants to prove Obama's a Muslim, he can ignore Elitism completely. On the other hand, if we just want to be a synopsis facts without direction, we are competing with Google and Wikipedia. It thus helps to include as many attacks as possible as long as they are vetted. Maybe I'm wrong or in the minority. And BTW, River Falls.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:07, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing as so many people find the position to be a problem, and more importantly that moving the ToC up would bury important information on Obamas muslim faith, could we include the ToC into the muslim &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; section, as a side colum perhaps? Just a suggestion --[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I like that. How about the following: Make &amp;quot;Religion: Described in the article&amp;quot; link to the relevant section(s), shorten the intro and integrate many of the details into the body or into new sections, then bring up the ToC. That way, the ToC is early, but the Muslim section is not push very far down. (Note that one of my criticisms tacitly in mind above is that the intro section rambles and the TOC is not first.) [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:12, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Keith Ellis is from Minnesota not Illinois. Neither Keith Ellis or Barack Obama received donations from Middle Eastern countries.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*''Fancy French mustard?''  Are you being serious?  I have been to a place in Madison, Wisconsin that has a &amp;quot;Dijon Burger&amp;quot;. And the area is known for its sausages, Brats, and most places routinely offer that kind of mustard. Granted Madison is a bastion of fuzzy liberal thinking, but still...  And your statement about their being &amp;quot;lots of ways to attack him&amp;quot; is totally out of place here.  We are an encyclopedia, and therefore do not &amp;quot;attack&amp;quot;. If you, or anyone, want to think adding facts is the same as attacking, that is just clap-trap. Your Grey Poupon suggestion smacks of disingenuous mischief. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The best criticism of Obama you can think of, is he isn't familiar with American burger joints? I personally find the average burger joint greasy and disgusting (and usually trayf), that doesn't mean I'm un-American.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:06, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, thanks for following up with me. The reason my proposal is not &amp;quot;disingenuous mischief&amp;quot; is that it is not my creation. As I linked, the criticism comes from reputable sources like Sean Hannity, as well as Ingraham, Limbaugh and many others I forget. Also, and very importantly, it is not merely about mustard but about the media fawning over him (see the legal insurrection link). It is popular conservative discussion. Thus, if we are to have a section on elitism, and given the solid sources, it merits discussion. If it then does not make it in, or we decide that the Elitism section for some reason is not justified (I would object), then I will accept. Another point I was to argue is about the attack. Conservapedia does not have to be the attacker, but it should help the reader to formulate an attack. The best niche for our 'pedia is to be where conservatives go to help develop an attack on a liberal or anti-American position. If someone wants to show Obama is an elitist, he can come to the Elitism section, follow the links and choose which arguments to make. And if he wants to prove Obama's a Muslim, he can ignore Elitism completely. On the other hand, if we just want to be a synopsis facts without direction, we are competing with Google and Wikipedia. It thus helps to include as many attacks as possible as long as they are vetted. Maybe I'm wrong or in the minority. And BTW, River Falls.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:07, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Table of Contents == &lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing as so many people find the position to be a problem, and more importantly that moving the ToC up would bury important information on Obamas muslim faith, could we include the ToC into the muslim &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; section, as a side colum perhaps? Just a suggestion --[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like that. How about the following: Make  &amp;quot;Described in the article&amp;quot; link to the relevant section(s), shorten the intro and integrate many of the details into the bidy or into new sections, then bring up the ToC. That way, the ToC is early, but the Muslim section is not push very far down&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Keith Ellis is from Minnesota not Illinois. Neither Keith Ellis or Barack Obama received donations from Middle Eastern countries.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*''Fancy French mustard?''  Are you being serious?  I have been to a place in Madison, Wisconsin that has a &amp;quot;Dijon Burger&amp;quot;. And the area is known for its sausages, Brats, and most places routinely offer that kind of mustard. Granted Madison is a bastion of fuzzy liberal thinking, but still...  And your statement about their being &amp;quot;lots of ways to attack him&amp;quot; is totally out of place here.  We are an encyclopedia, and therefore do not &amp;quot;attack&amp;quot;. If you, or anyone, want to think adding facts is the same as attacking, that is just clap-trap. Your Grey Poupon suggestion smacks of disingenuous mischief. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The best criticism of Obama you can think of, is he isn't familiar with American burger joints? I personally find the average burger joint greasy and disgusting (and usually trayf), that doesn't mean I'm un-American.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:06, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, thanks for following up with me. The reason my proposal is not &amp;quot;disingenuous mischief&amp;quot; is that it is not my creation. As I linked, the criticism comes from reputable sources like Sean Hannity, as well as Ingraham, Limbaugh and many others I forget. Also, and very importantly, it is not merely about mustard but about the media fawning over him (see the legal insurrection link). It is popular conservative discussion. Thus, if we are to have a section on elitism, and given the solid sources, it merits discussion. If it then does not make it in, or we decide that the Elitism section for some reason is not justified (I would object), then I will accept. Another point I was to argue is about the attack. Conservapedia does not have to be the attacker, but it should help the reader to formulate an attack. The best niche for our 'pedia is to be where conservatives go to help develop an attack on a liberal or anti-American position. If someone wants to show Obama is an elitist, he can come to the Elitism section, follow the links and choose which arguments to make. And if he wants to prove Obama's a Muslim, he can ignore Elitism completely. On the other hand, if we just want to be a synopsis facts without direction, we are competing with Google and Wikipedia. It thus helps to include as many attacks as possible as long as they are vetted. Maybe I'm wrong or in the minority. And BTW, River Falls.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 15:07, 2 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Table of Contents == &lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing as so many people find the position to be a problem, and more importantly that moving the ToC up would bury important information on Obamas muslim faith, could we include the ToC into the muslim &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; section, as a side colum perhaps? Just a suggestion --[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Keith Ellis is from Minnesota not Illinois. Neither Keith Ellis or Barack Obama received donations from Middle Eastern countries.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:19, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*''Fancy French mustard?''  Are you being serious?  I have been to a place in Madison, Wisconsin that has a &amp;quot;Dijon Burger&amp;quot;. And the area is known for its sausages, Brats, and most places routinely offer that kind of mustard. Granted Madison is a bastion of fuzzy liberal thinking, but still...  And your statement about their being &amp;quot;lots of ways to attack him&amp;quot; is totally out of place here.  We are an encyclopedia, and therefore do not &amp;quot;attack&amp;quot;. If you, or anyone, want to think adding facts is the same as attacking, that is just clap-trap. Your Grey Poupon suggestion smacks of disingenuous mischief. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:35, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The best criticism of Obama you can think of, is he isn't familiar with American burger joints? I personally find the average burger joint greasy and disgusting (and usually trayf), that doesn't mean I'm un-American.--[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 00:06, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First, thanks for following up with me. The reason my proposal is not &amp;quot;disingenuous mischief&amp;quot; is that it is not my creation. As I linked, the criticism comes from reputable sources like Sean Hannity, as well as Ingraham, Limbaugh and many others I forget. Also, and very importantly, it is not merely about mustard but about the media fawning over him (see the legal insurrection link). It is popular conservative discussion. Thus, if we are to have a section on elitism, and given the solid sources, it merits discussion. If it then does not make it in, or we decide that the Elitism section for some reason is not justified (I would object), then I will accept. Another point I was to argue is about the attack. Conservapedia does not have to be the attacker, but it should help the reader to formulate an attack. The best niche for our 'pedia is to be where conservatives go to help develop an attack on a liberal or anti-American position. If someone wants to show Obama is an elitist, he can come to the Elitism section, follow the links and choose which arguments to make. And if he wants to prove Obama's a Muslim, he can ignore Elitism completely. On the other hand, if we just want to be a synopsis facts without direction, we are competing with Google and Wikipedia. It thus helps to include as many attacks as possible as long as they are vetted. Maybe I'm wrong or in the minority. And BTW, River Falls.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Table of Contents == &lt;br /&gt;
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Seeing as so many people find the position to be a problem, and more importantly that moving the ToC up would bury important information on Obamas muslim faith, could we include the ToC into the muslim &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; section, as a side colum perhaps? Just a suggestion --[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:47, 1 July 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Here is the other proposal I had. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:(I broke the ref tags so it would be easier to copy and paste.) There are a lot of ways to attack him, but roughly since the election, little is making its way into the article. The time for mourning is over; now we catalog! [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:52, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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==Obama clueless about American history==&lt;br /&gt;
In introducing Sotomayor, he flubs the constitution being the paper written over 200 years ago, mistakenly says 20 centuries ago. Maybe Totus was thinking the other paper written 20 centuries ago, the Bible! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiRhHqlzaG4 Video Obama: Constitution written &amp;quot;20 centuries&amp;quot; ago] &lt;br /&gt;
::A much as I hate to say this, I think taht was simply a slip of the tongue nothing more, also sign your comments please--[[User:IScott|IScott]] 21:02, 7 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This really says more about you than about Obama, you're willing to think that a person with a Harvard education is below the line of mental retardation when it comes to History - US history in particular. It was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. If everytime Obama made a slip of the tongue you overreacted like this then you wouldn't be able to see the actual substance and be unable critisize his legislation or his political way. Really, grow up and stop looking for mistakes like that as it makes conservatives and you in particular look stupid and petty.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unlock article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can this article be unlocked? [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:22, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically I want to delete this &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;# Contrary to Christianity, the Islamic doctrine of taqiyya encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This doesn't offer any evidence of Obama being a Muslim. [[User:ConservativeCanuck|ConservativeCanuck]] 15:52, 10 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama Received Aid as Foreign Student?==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've seen this reported in several places.  Apparently, Obama (under the name &amp;quot;Barry Soetoro&amp;quot;) received financial aid as &amp;quot;a foreign student from Indonesia.&amp;quot;  The mainstream media seems to have basically ignored this; does anyone know more about it?   This would lend quite a bit of credence to those who question his American citizenship.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2009/05/04/obama-receives-foreign-student-tuition-aid-smoking-gun-finally-found/#more-6734&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mylot.com/w/discussions/1995743.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Muslim Section==&lt;br /&gt;
The call to prayer is very beautiful, one need not be a muslim to appreciate it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them&amp;quot; Anyone with the slightest amount of reading comprehension could see that he was referring to having muslim in his family (he does) and lliving in a Muslim-majority country (he did) Neither of these prove him to be a muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; That proves him to be a muslim? So if you don't muslims have to either convert or live in the stone age, you're must be a muslim yourself?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President&amp;quot; I believe there's some requirement for using your middle name in the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; Did he use a Koran, where is anything Islamic found there. Perhaps he's just not a very devout christian, is that a problem?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[34] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; Yes, Fareed Zakaria is a muslim, if one day, I turn on CNN and watch his show am I now a muslim? All of these prove not that Obama is a muslim, but that he simply isn't a anti-muslim fanatic and is open to all beliefs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior&amp;quot; It's absurd to think he was using the conventional use?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
Malcolm X has inspired millions for his activity in the civil rights movement. The Nation of Islam was a radical group, but I can understand radicalism in the face of what had been done to african-americans at the time. Malcolm X left the group because he disagreed with their radical views. I fail to see how seeing him as an inspiration makes someone a muslim. I'm jewish, I'm inspired by Martin Luther King, that makes me a christian?&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on on and on, but I won't. Aside from all of this, what if he is muslim? Are muslims not allowed to be president? Can a muslim child not dream to one day be president just like every other kid? --[[User:Redsox70707|Redsox70707]] 16:04, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Well, it is an open question, IMO, or should be.  The open question about his place of birth is another. The Koran actually calls for the use of deceit and violence against those who do not accept it 100%. That, in and of itself gives one pause. --[[User:TK|'''ṬK''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:13, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I will add that since Israelis were prominent in U.S. politics circa '70's, from that time forward Muslim American's began to be heavily invested thanks to  Middle East states such as Saudi Arabia, U.A.E., Kuwait. Their ultimate goal was to get Muslims into U.S. politics. Today are the fruits from that investment, Illinois's Barack Obama and Keith Ellis. Chicago has over 400 Mosques, some capacity over 1,000. Home to Muslim Farrakhan, U.S. Muslim Brotherhood ties, big Saudi charities, Fundraising for dead Palestine suicide bombers. Obama bows out of great thanks and respect for the King.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:24, 22 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how it is relevant that President Obama may or may not be of the muslum faith. If he came out and said that he was muslum, then you could put that as his faith, but it is not important enough to have an entire section about&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article in disrepair ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Please, we need to either unlock the article or the moderators need to be responsive to the talk page. The frequency of updates is embarrassing for such a high value article. Several sections need to be cleaned up, which is too tedious for just a handful of administrators. This man is destroying our country and we are not keeping up. If we do this right, we can become one of the best repositories of Obama scandals and transgressions, but we have to be at least current.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now as far as specific content, I'd like to expand on the Ayres ghost writing ''Dreams From My Father''. Jack Cashill updated his argument two days ago (http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/breakthrough_on_the_authorship_1.html), and frankly, I think is proven well enough to warrant sufficient detail in the article. I'd propose a paragraph here on the talk page, but I feel it may be ignored like my last suggestion. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]] 11:46, 30 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Trip to Canada ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's first foreign trip as President of the United States occured yesterday, to Canada.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most telling, he declared &amp;quot;I love this country [Canada]&amp;quot; - has he ever even uttered such words about America?&lt;br /&gt;
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: *sigh* [http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-loves-america-no-really/ yes, yes he has] --[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 17:40, 20 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Demanding Major Change ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not well educated on Obama enough to write an article on him, and even if I did I would not know where to start, but come on! Someone step up to the plate and correct this article. We atleast need a rewrite that presents a case for him being a christian. It can include all the Rev. Wright stuff you want, but if Conservapedia wants to become &amp;quot;The trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot; it has to convey both sides.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a conservapedian, I don't like where this site is going. When writing articles, we can have conservative viewpoints, just not conservative crusades.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's remarkable how people who spell Christian with a small &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; want to insist that Obama is somehow a Christian.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 5 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mr. Schlafly, how that makes someone less christian then somebody else is beyond me.  Petty remarks like that does not help conservapedia's image at all[[User:Skwisgaar|Skwisgaar]] 11:52, 18 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Reminiscent of those who assert the title of catholic with a small c, which in fact means something wholly other than a Catholic (i.e., a Roman Catholic) with a large C. (All Christians are in fact catholic with a small c if I understand it's fairly broad meaning.) --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 23:42, 5 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't think you can &amp;quot;demand&amp;quot; anything here. This is not a place where you can get what you want with the well-worn liberal tactic of stamping your feet and throwing a tantrum.&lt;br /&gt;
: If you have proof that Obama is a Christian, then let us see it. As far as I can tell, he is completely uninterested in Christian fellowship of any kind, which to me is very telling.&lt;br /&gt;
: It is easy to talk the talk. As the Lord himself said:&lt;br /&gt;
: '''Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'''' (Matthew 7:22-23)&lt;br /&gt;
: When and if Barack Hussein Obama shows some evidence of having been washed clean in the blood of Christ, then we can talk. I'm not holding my breath. --[[User:DavidS|DavidS]] 08:34, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::DeanS, you have proof, it's been shown to you multiple times. All the people seem to be interested here is raising a conspiracy theory. They are so set in their ways that arguing against them will yield no results. That's the whole thing about conspiracy theorists: it doesn't matter what proof you show or how complete it is, they will find some hole, real or imagined, and fill it in with whatever belief they hold to actually add strength to their theories. A quick review of the page reveals 3 telling conspiracy theories that are held in belief by the people who hold power on this website: 1) That Obama is a Muslim (he isn't) 2) That Obama wasn't born in Hawaii (He was), and 3) That the majority of Obama's campaign contributions came from anonymous donors (they didn't). That's why this page has been locked from editing, because it has become a war zone and is unlikely to change if it was unlocked. The only solution at this point is to try and gleam what facts you can from this article, and do your own independent research for more facts concerning Obama. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 09:14, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: First of all, I'm David, not Dean. Secondly, Obama certainly doesn't ''act'' like any sort of Christian I care to know: he supports [[abortion]], he is a radical [[socialist]] (possibly a [[Communist]]), and he tells falsehoods. I don't know if he is a Muslim or not, but it seems quite likely, and the page has a lot of evidence showing that he is. --[[User:DavidS|DavidS]] 11:44, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First, my apologies on the name. Secondly, I'm not claiming that Obama is a good Christian, just that he most certainly is not Muslim. The evidence on this page, many of which are blatant falsehoods, are hardly conclusive proof of anything. I have no doubt that if I held any user here under the same scrutiny that Obama has, I could gather enough &amp;quot;evidence&amp;quot; to make a case that they are any religion I choose them to be. Thirdly, just because he may not be the type of christian you want to know doesn't make him not christian. There are many Christians that I [[Ku Klux Klan|don't care to know]]. Does that make them not Christian?--[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 12:13, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Islam is a religion trained to not be noticed, it encourages Muslims to remain hidden, any evidence that Obama isn't Muslim is denied by the one fact that Islam is a religion designed to remain hidden until the moment is right to strike. Recent &amp;quot;negotiations&amp;quot; with the Middle East prove this! --[[User:Deadpool]] (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Even if he is a muslim ,(which i am sure he is not), how does that change anything. Are you suggesting that everyone who is muslim is an amoral terrorist with an agenda to kill all christians and destroy our family values? Are you suggesting that every single muslim follows the tenets unfailingly? Even the most devoted christians i have met follow all of the tenets. A person is a person, religion may play a part in their every day life, but the amount of people willing to die or kill for it is very few.  I met the now-president myself once.  He was a good man who loved his family and his country, more so than many people I have met, liberals AND conservatives. Even though I voted for McCain, he seemed like a good candidate for president. [[User:Skwisgaar|Skwisgaar]] 11:51, 18 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's Atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it is a popular view on this site that Obama is a Muslim, but has anyone considered the possibility that his apparent lack of religious devotion indicates instead that he is an atheist? In an article about Obama on mensvogue.com, it is noted that &amp;quot;Though Obama had long been skeptical of organized religion, he gradually came to embrace it &amp;quot;as a choice, not an epiphany.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mensvogue.com/business/politics/feature/articles/2006/09/11/barack_obama&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is frequently observed on Conservapedia that his claims of religious activity may be self-serving; could they not be an attempt to hide his atheism instead of his Islamic beliefs? After all, Ron Reagan, Jr. once remarked that nobody ever elects atheists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, Conservapedia has also pointed out on numerous occasions that atheists are strongly inclined to dislike America. Is it also not possible that Obama's pro-Islamic behavior is not a series of Freudian slips, but rather a manifestation of his liberal dislike for America?&lt;br /&gt;
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Just some interesting points to consider. Perhaps we could open this up for discussion. --[[User:Economist|Economist]] 18:30, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama Arab-American ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article should, at some point, actually say that Obama is African-American, making him the first black president.  If you really want to leave room for speculation about Warren G. Harding's ancestry, you could write &amp;quot;first openly black president&amp;quot; or something.  But Obama's blackness is clearly a large part of his personal and political identity, and is probably going to be remembered as one of the most historically significant aspects of this election.  An article on Barack Obama should contain a direct statement of this information, period.&lt;br /&gt;
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The editors should also consider putting that information in the first paragraph.  I understand that there is no established rule about the ordering of information in a Conservapedia article.  However, an uneducated reader looking at this article would learn how long his campaign was before learning that he is the first black president, which doesn't make much sense to me. [[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 16:20, 9 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is much distortion in the media about Obama being African-American. '''Obama is actually Arab-American''', and I agree that this page should reflect his race.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).  --[[User:Cwcopela|Cwcopela]] 14:11, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Does it really matter? It's not the technicalities that define what race Americans perceive Obama as - He looks more black, than white and arabic and that's how people will perceive him - They won't perceive him as another rich religious white guy or as an arab because of technicalities like that. --[[User:Atheuz|Atheuz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:*So, perceptions matter above facts? That is typical of [[liberal]] thinking, you know. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, by your own admission Obama is half-Caucasian. Shouldn't we say &amp;quot;first president with significantly ethnic roots&amp;quot; or something (not as politically correct, of course)? [[User:T2master|T2master]] 19:30, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello. Would it be appropriate to create a &amp;quot;family&amp;quot; section in this biography, it seems rather lacking on this point? For the rest it seems very informative, but rather cluttered. Would it be more logical to use a chronological build-up for this biography, such as placing the parts relating to his presidency more to the end of the biography, and his earlier endeavors to the front? Perhaps it would help if the contents table was moved up, at least to end up higher than the first muslim president bit? Let's hope I'm not asking any all-too-stupid questions! ;-) Regards, [[User:AVanbeek|AVanbeek]] 22:51, 12 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't see any of your suggestions as an improvement.  Obama's presidential ambition predates the other items you mention, and his personal beliefs are the most significant.  Encylopedias, like newspapers, prioritize presentation based on significance.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:59, 12 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Shall I go ahead then, and erase &amp;quot;Family&amp;quot; Sections on George W. Bush and McCain's articles? Their great accomplishments surely predate those insignificant sections. [[User:AMurdoc|AMurdoc]] 13:29, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not go ahead and make some positive contributions to this encyclopaedia by creating wanted articles, rather than attempting to be satirical? [[User:MikeSalter|MikeSalter]] 14:18, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd also note that Michelle is refered to by her maiden name in the info box. Checking the previous Presidents, their wives are referenced in First Last or First Maiden Last (Laura Bush and Hillary Rodham Clinton). Any reason not to have Michelle Obama or Michelle Robinson Obama? Is there some dispute about her legal name? As her name has changed in the popular view and the law, this information would appear to be just wrong. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Lincoln's Bible? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fox News is reporting that Obama will use the Lincoln Bible to be sworn in &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/23/obama-sworn-using-lincoln-bible/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. I think it's fairly safe to say that it will not be a koran. I also think it is safe to say that this is exactly the kind of trickery a manchurian muslim would use. Is it worth a mention in the &amp;quot;likely muslim&amp;quot; section?&lt;br /&gt;
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: I agree, it is safe to say it will not be a Koran. I think i'ts also safe to say this is exactly the kind of &amp;quot;trickery&amp;quot; a Christian would use. Is it worth a mention in the &amp;quot;likely Christian&amp;quot; section? oh wait... [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 11:59, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: So Obama is damned if he does use a Bible, and damned if he doesn't.  Seems a bit unreasonable.  None of those other candidates were ever accused of being &amp;quot;Manchurian Muslims&amp;quot; just because they DID use a Bible to get sworn in.  Then again, none of those other candidates had brown skin and a funny name, right? [[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 12:55, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Typical [[liberal]] [[race baiting]]... How about you come up with evidence rather than allegations? [[User:CWood|CWood]] 16:47, 18 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::None of the other candidates hid from questions about their past, it's Obama's own fault. Nobody ever said his name was funny except Obama. The brown skin comment is over the top racist ploy. You know very well that there are more respected, patriotic, qualified 'brown skin' people that are deserving of presidency, Obama isn't one of them. FYI- slanderous allegations are deserving of a permanent block here. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 13:03, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about slanderous allegations that a man is lying to the country about his religion?  Do those count?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm not accusing anyone of racism per se.  I'm just pointing out that no other presidential candidate has ever had to prove to the country that he is not a Muslim.  And let's be honest - that's because all the other presidential candidates have been white guys named George or Bill or Ron or Jimmy, and this one is a black guy named Barack.  If people WANT to believe he's a Muslim (the authors of this article clearly do) it's easier to do so.  If you can't see the connection between his race/name and the popularity of the belief that he is a Muslim, you're not looking hard enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyway, this is all a moot point.  He's not a Muslim.  As time goes by after Obama takes office, this page will look increasingly loony.  I guess if Obama really turns out to be an Al-Qaeda sleeper agent poised to sabotage the United States in a plot straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, I will be the one looking loony.  But I think I'll take that chance.[[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 17:55, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama (born in Honolulu,[1][2][3] August 4, 1961) served as a first-term Democratic Senator from Illinois (2004-2008) and then, along with his running mate Senator Joseph Biden, won the presidential election[4] after twenty-three months of campaigning, raising an unprecedented $750 million and spending over $700 million of it,[5]. Post-election, Obama indicated that he would make an unprecedented speech within his first 100 days from a Muslim capital.[6]  (7][8]  &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has espoused the idea of &amp;quot;spreading the wealth,&amp;quot;[10] &lt;br /&gt;
in other words raising the tax rates on business and the wealthy   in order to redistribute their income to low income individuals, many of whom don't currently pay income taxes.[11] His health care plan requires employers to purchase health care or pay a fine and will require many into a single payer system.[12] To announce his trip to Berlin in July 2008, Obama used posters which show a marked similarity to posters of others.[13] During Obama's youth in Hawaii, he developed a strong, almost Father/Son relationship with Frank Marshall Davis.14]&lt;br /&gt;
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The claim that Fareed Zakaria's book ''The Post-American World'' &amp;quot;is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; is not supported by the reference, [35]. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 15:41, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ah yes, Fareed Zakaria is actually a Jewish name, written from a Juda perspective. Let's get serious ok? --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 15:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The ''Village Voice'' article that was referenced describes Zakaria as a secular Muslim, but it doesn't mention the book at all.  Do you not think it's possible for someone to write a book on a secular topic without injecting his religious point of view? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 16:20, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cleary Obama has a Muslim background but is not a Muslim. Some reference to Muslim allegations, rumors and conspiracy theories might be appropriate but Obama is not a Muslim. You people are making yourself look silly beyond belief.&lt;br /&gt;
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: So smarty pants, prove he is no longer Muslim. Also, what does the word 'likely' mean to you?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:44, 22 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picture==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AC776AB92D53D08B124F57F6B9B6C2.jpg‎]] Here's a picture of our plotting leader. Too sinister? --[[User:StevenM|Ṣ₮ёVeN]] 09:41, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Interesting, Steven.  But where did you get it from?  The uploads should reflect the source and claim of ability to use it, unless before 1923 (in which everything is public domain).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh yes. sorry, i got it from the msn.com do i need promission to take photos from there? --[[User:StevenM|Ṣ₮ёVeN]] 14:03, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama/Muslim Support ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the May be a Muslim section, it says that he had an increased support of Muslim voters.  How does this prove he is Muslim? While this should be kept, It should be moved to another  section.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nation of Islam's annual convention in a Chicago suburb, a white T-shirt with an image of Obama between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. sold for $10. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The Muslim community supports their Muslims. MLK just thrown into the mix for his iconic black image. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jGXLhxPilGxuVttW5L588O-y4uAAD96LKH200]&lt;br /&gt;
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== I know we lost a week... ==&lt;br /&gt;
But we can't stay in some alternate universe where G.W.Bush is still president forever, especially if this article is going to link to the front page. We need to update this article to show that Obama is now president. I would do so, but its locked. As it has been. For quite some time. --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 23:57, 27 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Low Res Pic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is the leading picture of Obama such a low resolution version? It looks crappy when stretched [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:20, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: That's the only picture we could get from the White House Web site. It certainly surprises me, because I would have thought that they would have a very high-resolution picture of...&amp;quot;Him.&amp;quot; We might try the White House site again to see whether &amp;quot;He&amp;quot; has corrected this&amp;amp;mdash;er&amp;amp;mdash;oversight.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:26, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wikipedia found one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Official_portrait_of_Barack_Obama.jpg) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::(I could have sworn i edited this already, did we loose some more from the database?) The orginal high resolution image can be obtained from the change.gov site; http://change.gov/page/-/officialportrait.jpg . Updating to this version should fix all the scaling artefacts --[[User:SCarter|SCarter]] 22:10, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Second swearing in ceremony? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised that this isn't even mentioned in the article, but when Obama retook the Oath he DIDN'T USE A BIBLE. In fact, there was no video recording of the session and the picture taken only showed him from the chest up. This is profound evidence of being Unchristian at the very least. Since we can't see his left hand during the ceremony, it could be on anything ... dare I say, the Koran?? (source http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-takes-oath-office/)  [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:40, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I consider swearing on the Bible to be un-Christian, because of Matthew 5:34-37, where swearing on anything is expressly forbidden by Jesus.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:48, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, the second swearing-in ceremony was hardly &amp;quot;private.&amp;quot;  There were a number of reporters present.  Even if it were private, the first ceremony is the one that is constitutionally binding.  In any case, the allegation in the main article needs a citation.  There are plenty out there, so get to it!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rejects ID, Pushes Evolution (Over Christianity!?) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This really needs to be a section in the mainspace. Someone unlock or please add a section mentioning the following:&lt;br /&gt;
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''Rejects ID''&lt;br /&gt;
From the responses to a Q&amp;amp;A sent out by Nature: Do you believe that evolution by means of natural selection is a sufficient explanation for the variety and complexity of life on Earth? Should intelligent design, or some derivative thereof, be taught in science class in public schools?&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama: I believe in evolution, and I support the strong consensus of the scientific community that evolution is scientifically validated. I do not believe it is helpful to our students to cloud discussions of science with non-scientific theories like intelligent design that are not subject to experimental scrutiny. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/in-obamas-own-words/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Remnick, who at this point could be considered the President of the United States of Magazines, forced Obama to address the topic of religion. &amp;quot;It's not 'faith' if you are absolutely certain,&amp;quot; Obama said, noting that he didn't believe his lack of &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; would hurt him a national election. &amp;quot;Evolution is more grounded in my experience than angels.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/magazines/barack_obama_i_inhaled_that_was_the_point_46068.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow. [[User:CherylE|CherylE]] 10:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Allegedly born in Honolulu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does it still say he was allegedly born in Honolulu? Later on in the page it says the it was proven his birth certificate is genuine. [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:We merely state that FactCheck.org believed the photo of the birth certificate was genuine.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:58, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe it should be rewritten then since now it reads more like it states a fact that the birth certificate is indeed genuine. I'm guessing 99% of people never even check the reference.[[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Additionally, he's already been sworn in as president, so arguing over where he was born is a moot point. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 23:57, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why no family section? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama article has no family section. Neither does Clinton's or Carter's. However, Reagan's, Bush the elder's and W.Bush's articles have them. Why none on the democratic presidents'? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:42, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There's a simple answer: Obama, Clinton, and Carter are Democrats.  They belong to an anti-family party, therefore their family is irrelevant to their political existence.  Family is central to Republican policy, and so it is impossible to understand President Bush without mentioning his family.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but a Democrat family, which is something entirely different.  [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 2:22, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: How about adding a family section now mentioning his half brother in Kenya who was arrested for drug possession? Shouldn't there be something about him on the page? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 08:02, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This argument doesn't make sense. If he's &amp;quot;anti-family,&amp;quot; '''he wouldn't have a family'''. I suppose by &amp;quot;anti-family,&amp;quot; you mean pro-abortion. That has nothing do to with whether to include his own family. A good encyclopedia doesn't leave out information for reasons like this. It's relevant and it should be here.[[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 17:09, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some Changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has not been succeded by &amp;quot;incumbent&amp;quot; nor will he be.&lt;br /&gt;
Obamas term in office might not go to 2013, it might go further, it might not go that far, unless you are psychic this should be changed. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 11:58, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Incumbent&amp;quot; means he is the current holder of the office. It's simply a term to indicate that he is the most recent. And while it is true that Obama could be elected to a second term and thus serve until 2017, he hasn't. His first term expires on 2013 regardless of what happens between now and then (barring impeachment or death, of course) so it's factual to list that date. Listing a second term when he's only a week and a half in his first one is speculative and inappropriate for an encyclopedia. --[[User:Ampersand|Ampersand]] 14:49, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
It's the exact same thing we did with [[George W. Bush]] - &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;there's nothing factually wrong about saying whoever replaces obama will be an incumbent.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; - saying incumbent merely confirms that he is the current president - no one has succeeded him yet.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is he or isn't he President?==&lt;br /&gt;
This article has a lot of wildly inaccurate and unsourced information in it.   It also can't seem to decide whether BO is President or not - the picture on the right says he is, the text varies from claiming he's won the election, to him being Senator.   I'd love to help clean this up, but can't seem to edit the page?   Ready to help.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 15:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, it's pretty weird isn't it. One would have thought that if it was important enough to protect then it would be important enough to update. But the failure to update tells the casual reader what to expect in respect of the general accuracy of the article - so it's probably not a bad thing.--[[User:British_cons|British_cons]] [[User_talk:British_cons|(talk)]] 11:12, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I notice the article has been updated to make it somewhat more reality-based.    Good.   However, I would expect  - almost to the case of 'demand' - that the article on the current POTUS begin with the short and simple line &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is the 44th and current President of the United States of America&amp;quot;.   Instead, the first sentence about this, arguably the world's most important person, is overlong, appallingly punctuated, begins immediately with unfounded gossip and wanders off into some other random irrelevant facts and utterly lacks focus.   It says a lot about what the reader can expect from the entire article to follow.   I wish I could help rewrite this article so as it would be more based on fact and reality - and particularly, better written - but as it's locked, that's impossible.   So all we, the casual readers, can do is suggest things which need to be done to improve the article.   I would begin by recommending the deletion of the entire monster and a total rewrite from scratch.   There's nothing here of substance and nothing that will engender any respect for this supposed 'encyclopedia'.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 13:33, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It's a shame we can't all be as learned and insightful as you, FNNoonan. However, I dare say all the hard-working editors here will jump up to obey your lofty commands. If you want a 'better' article, why not write one on your userpage/in a sandbox and submit it to the criticism of your peers? Or is this a case of 'those who can't, criticise'? [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 14:19, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: You must not have read my comment, in which I made a suggestion to improve the article's first sentence.   What's yours?   You might try contributing something to the debate rather than trying to shoot the messenger.   The message is  - the article's a disaster.   Now, what are you doing about that?   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 16:24, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I don't think it a disaster, but a multi-layered and well-argued piece. Looking at the revision history and talk pages, I see that some of the best minds on Consercvapedia think so, too. Therefore I have no need to do anything. You, on the other hand, see faults, but do nothing except indulge yourself in corrosive criticism. [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 17:10, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I would also point out that the article even fails to mention which country he's President of.   I would again recommend the inclusion of my suggested opening sentence - &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is the 44th and current President of the United States of America&amp;quot;.   Thank you for helping to improve this terrible article.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 14:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should begin with &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is currently the 44th President of the United States of America.&amp;quot; Someone please make this change.  [[User:Gadzodilo|Gadzodilo]] 23:22, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for improving the article's first few words - we now know what his job is and of what country he's President.   But I would ask that someone PLEASE look at the grammar in that first sentence - it's absolutely atrocious.   Again, since I cannot edit the page, I cannot help but instead can only point out the problems here.   First, if you want to make the point about his birthplace, the correct place would be later - and then with an explanation of why this might be a problem (the Constitution states that President's must be born in the USA - there's no mention of this anywhere in the article).   If you want to make the point where it is, despite that being a nonsequitor, simply add a period after 'States' and remove the word 'although'.   Also please note that the word 'although' is a conditional - and what follows the word 'although' has nothing to do with the opening part of the sentence.   You might as well write &amp;quot;He is the President of the USA, although he apparently doesn't like cheese&amp;quot;.   The two items have no connection.   Subject-Object.   Next, the entire first sentence is utterly malformed, with a punctuation that woulod shame a four year old, including a period in the middle of the sentence.   There is what is presumably a birthdate just floating in the middle of the sentence, undescribed.   This is followed by a close-parentheses, where there was no open-parentheses.    The sentence then runs on with some gibberish about electoral donations.   It also appears as if Joe Biden was his running mate while he was a Senator from Illinois.   The first paragraph continues in what can barely be described as comprehensible English with a stream of random, unintroduced facts.   Finally, it ends with a nonsensical reference to the absolutely normal practice of politicians referring to the practices of their nation, and addressing their nation as a collective body.   I would love to help tidy up this amateur article, but the childish English throughout, combined with the fact that the article is locked, leave me to believe it is not possible, and this encyclopedia is anything but 'trustworthy'.   Would you trust your children with this article?   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 14:16, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Real Bible NOT Koran ==&lt;br /&gt;
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“Look, I wrote here and in the article that Obama would swear on the Koran, and now I’ve just got to eat [[humble pie]]. See, I was wwoo….wrooggga…woolooo..wopppaaa. wrong. There, I managed to say it, and I feel better for it.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I been waiting for that one, but I’m not holding my breath. But since Obama DID in fact swear on Lincoln’s Bible that means (check this one in archives) you clowns owe me $100. Each. (American notes thank you.) [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 18:31, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You're clueless, Myles.  Obama's real oath was not on the Bible.  I don't know if it was on the Koran.  Do you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:01, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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OP Myles back. Right, let me see if I can sum up the state of play. Obama tries to take the Oath on the Lincoln Bible, which presumably has special powers not available to the usual Gideon’s Hotel edition. Anyways, Chief Justice Roberts manages to bellyflop his role in history. It’s like the guy who needs play only one note on a triangle during the symphony and manages to foul that up. Along with 90% of the world, I thought that Obama was completely blameless for this glitch, and actually quite gracious. His face and bearing said “Hey, you stuffed up, but I forgive you. Let’s try it again.” This was not what the foaming at the mouth crowd saw, and talk here was of how Obama was not properly inaugurated, and that somehow it was all his fault. Then, to satisfy the New Philistines, he takes the oath, again. This time, no one of the Born Again crowd who frequent these occasions thinks to bring a Bible, but it is Obama’s fault once more, because apparently he should have one in his back pocket at all times. He takes the oath again. Hey, that’s good enough for me, but apparently I’m clueless, according to Andy, who, in one of his regular 2 line missives from above believes there’s more to this than meets the eye.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, let me see. I suppose Obama could have paid Roberts off in the first instance to screw up the wording, so he would not have to put his hand on the Bible. (Because then he would wince with pain as the Word of God burnt his skin, or something.) This set up the SECOND inauguration at which everyone was paid to make sure no Bible was there, so Obama gets to be Prez while cunningly evading the Bible. You see, it all makes perfect sense, don’t it? Yeah, and I’M the one who’s clueless! Truly, what a man believes, he sees. Look, I’ve got an idea. Instead of hurling everything you got including the kitchen sink at Obama on a second by second basis, every time he so much as scratches his nose, let’s take the fair-minded, objective, dare I say American approach. It’s the customary 100 day honeymoon. Why don’t we all give him those 100 days, and THEN have a look at the plus and minus sheet? Sound like a sensible notion? Of course, that would mean putting your knee in some other crotch for that time, which is asking a hell of a lot I know. But then you would have some REAL grievances at the end instead of the kind of sort of all this relentless muck-raking on the basis of trivia. And just think of the size of the bonfire you could build then. &lt;br /&gt;
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You know, where I come from conservatives are known as people with a sense of honour, with ethical standards, polite and cultivated, aware of etiquette, educated, and with a keen sense for fair play. You might be using a different dictionary. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Myles, please read the box at the top of this page, and adhere to it.  Thanks. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:55, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Myles, one can tell you're a liberal just by observing how many words it takes you to say nothing.  Your non-American spelling of &amp;quot;honor&amp;quot; is also a giveaway.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:43, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Somebody decides to spell 'honour' the way that it is spelt correctly in '''English''' (the mother-tongue of '''England''') and you decide to try and be insulting about it.  Classy.--[[User:Ieuan|Ieuan]] 12:47, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And I have to ask... why is using non-American spelling a liberal trait? Our Prime Minister up here in Canada is as conservative as they come... [[User:SJames|SJames]] 13:37, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: It doesn't show you're non-conservative. It shows you are not American, or an un-American person. [[User:T2master|T2master]] 19:30, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Incumbent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the box to the right of the page it says that Obama will be succeeded by [[incumbent]]? Doesn't this imply that he will have two terms? I'm a bit confused. [[User:AndyJM|AndyJM]] 11:19, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I can understand the confusion, but all it implies is that he is the current President. It would probably be better if the whole line was removed until we actually know who he would be succeeded by. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 13:09, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, I tried to fix it up, I really did. But it was hard what with the lock down. I tried dabbing liquid paper on my monitor but that didn’t work very well either. Normally, “Not known” or “To be announced” or “To be determined” are the accepted forms, but hey, what about &amp;quot;Sarah Palin&amp;quot;? Let’s be positive and proactive about this. That lady is gonna wipe the floor with this Obama ring in.  I’m marching in her parade right now. “Palin ain’t for failin’ “ &lt;br /&gt;
::Whoo hooo!!” [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 21:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stylistic matter ==&lt;br /&gt;
Technically, it is proper to simply list the day of Obama's inauguration followed by a dash, as, God forbid, he might be reelected in 2012. So we can't say until the election when his last day in office will be... --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 09:36, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I believe you are not correct. ''Technically'' he was elected to a four year term. The text for the info box says term of office, no?  That would be four years from his inauguration, 20 January, 2009.  One doesn't typically take into account the possibility of death, resignation or re-election. Perhaps you are saying what is &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; for Wikipedia?  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:52, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=George_W._Bush&amp;amp;oldid=598707] seems like a reasonable template &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; for Conservapedia.  The Bush entry was changed from &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; to January 20, 2009 less than three weeks before the date that he was definitively leaving office.[[User:Mikek|Mikek]] 14:51, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he was elected to and his actual term in office can be different things. William Henry Harrison was elected for a four year term but his actual term was one month. As I recall Bushes article said 'present' until several days after his term was over. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:11, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, that's almost universal. We don't know when his term will end. He could be re-elected in four years, or shot tomorrow. We can't say when his term will ''actually'' end. Wikipedia, by the way, doesn't even have a dash- just &amp;quot;assumed office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;incumbent&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;January 20, 2009.&amp;quot; If accuracy is our goal, it's best to simply put a dash, or a dash followed by &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;incumbent.&amp;quot; --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 15:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article Naming ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As the article for [[Barack Hussein Obama]] includes his full name, [[John McCain]] should redirect to [[John Sidney McCain III]], [[Joe Biden]] to [[Joseph Robinette &amp;quot;Joe&amp;quot; Biden, Jr.]], etc. - [[User:LafinJack|LafinJack]] 17:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Can we ask why we will have the inconsistency TK? --[[User:WillB|WillB]] 18:15, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The obvious answer: Hussein is a Muslim name. It helps when trying to portray the slant that President Obama is lying about being a Christian. &amp;quot;Sidney&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Robinette&amp;quot; are regular Western middle names and serve no significant purpose.  A similar line of reasoning can also explain why the Table of Contents is oddly out of view in President Obama's article. [[User:AdamSchaley|AdamSchaley]] 19:21, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Leave it to a liberal to reduce this discussion to nonsense, innuendo, and pointless name-calling.  What's the use of even trying to have this discussion when you won't discuss things rationally? [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 19:42, 01/09&lt;br /&gt;
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::I should remind you that this is a Conservative Christian encyclopedia with an ADMITTED BIAS. The goal is obvious: To show readers that Obama is a Muslim, however this is in line with the principals of the encyclopedia, so there isn't anything really to complain about. Conservatives want everyone to understand Obama is a Muslim. There is no NPOV, get over it (my $.02) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 21:56, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm pretty sure his religion should have no bearing in the first place. Then again, you're the type of moron who lets a candidate's religious faith influence your vote. &amp;quot;I AINT GON' VOTE FOR NO MUSLIMS OR JEWS.&amp;quot; I'm quite sure the color of his skin also has a bearing on you. Let's not forget that there isn't any credible evidence that he's indeed a Muslim. --[[User:VictorT|VictorT]] 17:45, 7 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think &amp;quot;Obama will likely be the first Muslim President&amp;quot; would be better written as &amp;quot;Obama is likely the first Muslim President&amp;quot; ... just a thought [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 22:08, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd just like to rerequest that the Obama main picture get updated with a higher resolution version. It looks very bad stretched. Here is a URL to an official version (http://change.gov/page/-/officialportrait.jpg) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 10:58, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Done. Thanks for the link. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's religious outlook ==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Obama's &amp;quot;outlook is Muslim&amp;quot;?  That is simply not true'''&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the first things the Obama administration did was to put on the White House website that they were going to promote the homosexual agenda.  I cite the following: &amp;quot;President Obama had not even finished his inaugural address today before his agenda was posted on the WhiteHouse website, where he promised to &amp;quot;overturn&amp;quot; the Supreme Court's precedents on discrimination claims and to demand new laws requiring employers to provide special protections for homosexuals and others with &amp;quot;gender&amp;quot; issues.[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=86633]  I do know for a fact that homosexuality is presently generally looked upon very unfavorably in Muslim countries. I cite the following: &amp;quot;Same-sex intercourse carries the death penalty in five officially Muslim nations: Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, Sudan, and Yemen. [3] It formerly carried the death penalty in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and in Iraq under a 2001 decree by Saddam Hussein. The legal situation in the United Arab Emirates is unclear. In many Muslim nations, such as Bahrain, Qatar, Algeria or the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with jail time, fines or corporal punishment. In some Muslim-majority nations, such as Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, or Mali, same-sex intercourse is not forbidden by law. However, in Egypt gays have been the victims of laws against &amp;quot;morality&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;[http://www.religionfacts.com/homosexuality/islam.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it is untrue to say that Obama's outlook is Muslim. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 04:06, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:His background is [[Islam]]ic, but I am unaware of his theological beliefs. Has he ever espoused a particular Christian or Muslim idea? If so, what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 20 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a few things wrong with what Obama said about Pearl Habor, but none of them constitute ignorance. The only things wrong with what he said are that he a) did no pluralize the phrase to &amp;quot;from the bombs that fell on Pearl Habor&amp;quot;; b) he wasn't accurate in the kind of weaponry used because they were actually torpedoes (which is hardly ignorance as it is a largely insignificant fact); or c) the fact that he failed to properly pluralize 'bomb' means that his phrase seems to reference a far more infamous bomb, the one on Hiroshima. This last point of course does not constitute ignorance. Even if he did mistaken Hiroshima for Pearl Habor I would see that as a gaff rather than evidence of impeded ignorance towards American history. But, given that, in the context of 'constantly evolving danger' and the other historical references contained within the whole statement, it is quite clear Obama did not mean Hiroshima, I would be inclined to either edit or remove this phrase entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, the place of birth was changed to Hawaii.  There has to be ''proof'' that he was ''not'' born in Hawaii, and we cannot allow someone else's opinion in the article which states that he was not.  But, the birth controversy is still a relevent topic as far as his possible history and the campaign is concerned, and this feature has been preserved.&lt;br /&gt;
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And third, there are minor corrections to be made to the article, which include writing and grammer, accuracy, and minor info that could be added as to his presidency.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:50, 2 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think that speculation should come after factual information in an article. Why are we talking about what Obama &amp;quot;may be&amp;quot; before what he actually is? --'' '''[[user:JArneal|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#006666&amp;quot; &amp;gt;JArneal&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'' ''' 18:29, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There you go again!  &amp;quot;Actually is&amp;quot; ? I think first, JArneal, in the great tradition of liberals, you need to define what &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; -- ''is''!  Please find a new hobby, JArneal, as your present one of constantly arguing and disputing doesn't wear well. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:59, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why must liberals censor that Obama is likely a Muslim... get over it guys --[[User:PMichael|PMichael]] 20:06, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Sheesh, TK. I'm sorry if I offended you. Do you really want me to define &amp;quot;is&amp;quot;?  I was just asking why we don't put factual information in front, and speculation in back. Is there a reason? --'' '''[[user:JArneal|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#006666&amp;quot; &amp;gt;JArneal&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'' ''' 22:24, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama and Sexism  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the &amp;quot;Presidential Campaign&amp;quot; section of this article it states &amp;quot;Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being '''a woman''' and outsider.&amp;quot; The evidence of Obama mocking Palin for being a woman is explained later: &amp;quot;Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her.&amp;quot; Are you talking about this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eu9Z2hXky0&amp;amp;eurl=http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php ? How is this video a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear? Not only that, but there is little evidence to support the claim that Obama hired Winner to make this video.&lt;br /&gt;
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The article suggests that Obama was caught for hiring someone to make a sexist smear video. I am asking for definitive proof that Obama was behind the video, AND definitive proof that the video is a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear. If there is no proof, I am at least requesting that the untrue statements about Obama mocking Palin for being a woman are removed. If I do not get a response from one of the editors of this article I will email the owners of Conservapedia directly. [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 19:25, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First, if you have correct information as to who was actually behind the video in question then it needs to be brought to our attention in a fair manner.  Second, the way you brought this about, by making your statement here in the form of a DEMAND, is not going to be tolerated.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, if my tone sounded as though i was demanding something from you or seemed disrespectful in some way I apologize, that was not my intent. I am merely requesting that the article changes it's tone. It states: &amp;quot;Obama was caught...&amp;quot; we do not know for certain that Obama was behind the video at all. Are we as Americans not considered innocent until proven guilty?&lt;br /&gt;
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And what about the charges of sexism? The article calls the video a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear. Will someone please tell me what was sexist about it? [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 23:02, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looking at the references, it is a documented fact that this video was made professionally; it is not an amateur attempt at all.  It's also documented that Winner &amp;amp; Associates (including Ethan Winner) are die-hard Obama supporters who have given much to the campaign.  While it is not proven from these pages that Obama supported such a video, it is also not proven that he didn't help out the creation of it in some way.  I added Ethan Winner's ''alleged'' claim that he made the video alone.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 22:17, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well that is a start, thank you. I honestly didn't think I'd get anyone to change anything in the article. But there are still those sexism charges. Can you provide some explanation to those? The line reads: &amp;quot;Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her.&amp;quot; Do you think you might be able to take out that word sexist? And maybe reword it in a way that doesn't immediately imply that Obama is behind the video (Until damning evidence is brought forth)? And there is also the claim at the beginning stating: &amp;quot;Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider.&amp;quot; The only evidence supposedly supporting the claim that Obama mocked Palin for being &amp;quot;a woman and outsider&amp;quot; is this smear video. Am I just missing something here? How is Obama mocking her for being a woman in this video? How is the video itself at all sexist? [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 23:02, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*FairMan, you are in danger of being blocked.  There was a well-documented news story, during the campaign, showing women were getting paid less on his campaign staff and in his Senate offices, which was hugely embarassing to Obama. [http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obamacommentary/222679,CST-NWS-sweet22.stng]  Palin was mocked by Obama and Joe Biden, for her so-called &amp;quot;lack of experience&amp;quot; even though her own exceeded Obama's, in terms of executive/managerial experience.  Please stop your liberal excuse making and time-wasting.  Learn the truth, and it will set you free! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:31, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why exactly am I in danger of being blocked? I am aware of that news story, I will save that for another place and time (I don't want to stir up more trouble then I am already in). My main complaint is that the article claimed that Obama mocked Palin for being a woman. The only evidence that supports this claim in the article is the link to the smear video mentioned previously (If there is more evidence then please add it). It is claimed that the video is a sexist smear. Why is my questioning of the label &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; being ignored every time someone replies? Please tell me if I am missing something obvious here. It is not my intent to waste anyone's time. I am just looking for answers.&lt;br /&gt;
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That is a great example! That is something you could add to the article to back up the claim of Obama mocking Palin for being an outsider. Currently there is nothing in the &amp;quot;Tone&amp;quot; section of the article backing that up.{{unsigned|FairMan}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Then that is what you should have said, is exactly my point! Everyone wants to be a critic, while offering nothing, as the box at the top of this page says, that will improve it.  If one doesn't do that, how am I, or any editor to distinguish you from the dozens of trolls and disruptor's who sign up everyday?  You know how long it took me to find that citation?  Less then two minutes. I ask for your understanding, but do not apologize for my comments, simply because I have just pointed out why I would think what I did.  &amp;quot;Assume good faith&amp;quot; is something  attempted by lots of other places, but it rarely is achieved, and certainly not so often here, where even the most casual reader/editor knows we are constantly set-up by liberal trolls and parodists.  Your last comments let all of us see your motivations are perhaps better than assumed, and I do thank you for that. This is how you will build your reputation here, and anywhere else in life. I look forward to other suggestions, offered in the same spirit, and in fact, if you want, put them on my talk to make sure I see them, if you want. Thanks.  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:24, 5 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could a sysop edit this page to add it to [[:Category:Barack Obama]]? -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 14:20, 6 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*No, sly mis-naming of the object isn't it? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:53, 6 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a missing parenthesis in his date of birth, and in the &amp;quot;Birth certificate controversy&amp;quot; section, the word &amp;quot;intelligible&amp;quot; should be &amp;quot;ineligible&amp;quot;.  Those are the only 2 I caught in a quick scan of the page.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:32, 7 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks!  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:48, 7 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I'm a new user. I was curious as to whether this talk page is actualy considered in the editing of this article. What i mean by that is, as this article is locked-down, does the editing administrator read this page and make changes to the article, or will the article always be left as it is? ( I don't mean to offend, as Imentioned, I am a new user, and I am honestly just curious)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Flag Pin &amp;quot;insights&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is badly written and requires major change. First, it says Obama didn't provide &amp;quot;adequate&amp;quot; explanation. &amp;quot;Adequate&amp;quot; is subjective. He either provided and explanation or he didn't. The citation indicates he explained. Second, the word &amp;quot;presumably.&amp;quot; Encyclopedias aren't supposed to presume things. Third, the word &amp;quot;likely.&amp;quot; Again, just an opinion. &amp;quot;Recently&amp;quot; is a vague term; be specific. The assumption about military donors is unsupported speculation. If anyone cares about making this into objective encyclopedic content, it should read as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after 9/11, but later stopped wearing it, explaining he felt that &amp;quot;Patriotism to me, isn't what you wear on your lapel. &amp;quot;It's what you carry in your heart. I don't need a pin to certify my love for this country.&amp;quot;[59] As of DATE, he has begun wearing a pin again.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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*Dantes, why are you here?  If it is to talk, talk, talk, complain, complain, complain, argue, argue, argue, you chose the wrong place. Our tolerance of liberal/socialist Canadians is pretty low. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:24, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, if you bother to read my entries, you'll see that I'm providing civil and rational suggestions for how to make this content more encyclopedic and objective. It's sad that you assume I'm a liberal/socialist just because I'm proposing corrections, and my country of residence is totally irrelevant. The better question would be why are YOU here? I'm here to propose corrections. Apparently you're here to try to insult me. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 11:40, 3 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michelle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could we link to her? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:14, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Religion... ==&lt;br /&gt;
Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm pretty sure there is no requirement that one must be Christian to be President.  Ah, I just checked the constitution and it mentions nothing about religion except once, in the first amendment.  He's not a Muslim, which has been confirmed, and even if he were, what does it matter?  Maybe this should be reconsidered?[[User:Heartbeat|Heartbeat]] 16:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Actually, I'm correct on multiple points as per the United States Constitution.  And Hussein is not a 'Muslim' name.  Muslim is the word used to denote a person whose religion is Islam.  Hussein is an ''Arab'' derived name Mr. Schlafly. [[User:Heartbeat|Heartbeat]] 16:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: The Constitution also mentions religion in Article VI &amp;quot;but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.&amp;quot; --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 16:46, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Whatever faith Obama is, he is not a Christian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Xld3RpINYVUJ:www.conversantlife.com/politics/is-barack-obama-really-a-christian+obama+quote+christian&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;cd=11&amp;amp;gl=us&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. For he fails to acknowledge the Nicene creed. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 18:58, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: &amp;quot;Pauline Christians&amp;quot; as opposed to .... Muslim Christians????  Got news for you:  Paul had nothing to do with the Nicene Creed, which is accepted by all Christians.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:48, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Heartbeat, try to stick to the point; and don't be so pedantic. Many people use the terms ''[[Muslim]]'' and ''[[Islamic]]'' interchangeably. Such loose usage does not invalidate an argument. You are surely award that the Arab countries are within the Islamic cultural sphere, and that they almost all are places where the required religion is Islam. So having an Arabic name places one within the Islamic sphere and is a [[clue]], anyway, to someone's religious heritage.&lt;br /&gt;
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These discussions are long on finger-pointing and short on research. Let's have a little more information. Has Obama been attending a church? Is church attendance a better indicator of religious faith than one's father's last name? Was the church he attended Christian? If it doesn't adhere to the [[Nicene Creed]], then is it some sort of heretical variant, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
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And why is it important what his religion is? Does anyone think he plans to violate the [[First Amendment]] by setting up a [[state religion]] (such as [[Islam]])? Or that he plans to neglect the protection of Americans' [[religious freedom]] even more than President Bush did? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Affirmative Action Question ====&lt;br /&gt;
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If all of Obama's achievements are linked to affirmative action, how did he get around Harvard Law's anonymous grading procedures? Did he find a way to communicate his race to his professors on his exams? Is there evidence of this? I know that Andy Schlafly was at HLS at the same time as Obama. Maybe he could shed some light on how Obama accomplished that. Was this not official policy when you went to Harvard: http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/handbook/rules-relating-to-law-school-studies/examinations.html [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 19:15, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Law schools have almost always graded anonymously. Journals like the Harvard Law Review do, admittedly, have affirmative action policies in selecting their editors, but they do ''not'' use affirmative action in selecting board members. So at most Obama got onto HLR by affirmative action, but his grades and election as President were his own accomplishments. Great point RickD.-[[User:LuciusF|LuciusF]] 19:01, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I seem to recall reading that there was a vote in selecting Obama as the President of the Law Review and that a number of conservatives voted for him: http://daggatt.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-harvard-law-days.html&lt;br /&gt;
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::The block of conservatives on the Law Review my year I think was eager to avoid having any of the most political people on the left govern the Review. I mean, the first bedrock criterion, I think for almost all of the editors, was to have somebody with an absolutely first-rate legal mind who would be able to engage competently with the nation's top legal scholars on their scholarship and on these articles, and who would provide the intellectual leadership for the Review that it always needed. That was non-negotiable for almost everybody right or left . . . And ultimately, the conservatives on the Review supported Barack as president in the final rounds of balloting because he fit that bill far better than the other people who were running. We had all worked with him over the course of a year. And we had all spent countless hours in the presence of Barack, as well as others of our colleagues who were running, in Gannett House [the Law Review offices], and so you get a pretty good sense of people over the course of a year of late nights working on the Review. You know who the rabble-rousers are. You know who the people are who are blinded by their politics. And you know who the people are who, despite their politics, can reach across and be friendly to and make friends with folks who have different views. And Barack very much fell into the latter category.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This seems to call into question the statement in the article about Obama's success being entirely the result of affirmative action. The single citation currently used to support this point consists of one sentence pulled from an article that otherwise casts Obama in a very positive light. Does anyone have another citation in support of the existing language besides that one, or should we discuss the possibility of changing or removing that paragraph? [[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:23, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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At second glance, none of the citations say anything about Obama's HLS achievements being the result of affirmative action. Law students constantly publish articles on subjects that they haven't taken formal courses on. My school doesn't even offer courses dealing with election law, but my friend still published an article about it. The article is missing a logical step between &amp;quot;Obama published an article without taking a class on [science subject] and Constitutional Law&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Obama's article was published because of his race.&amp;quot; Has the writer done any research to justify that inference? [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 00:20, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;lt;1% Correction ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;lt;1% statistic appears to be legitimate, but it is not presented correctly. According to the source currently used for this statistic (http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm), 'The Internet site aljazeera.net published an interview with Ahmad Al Qataani أحمد القطعاني An important Islamic cleric who said: “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;quot;'&lt;br /&gt;
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This link puts those numbers into context and gives us the &amp;lt;1% figure: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/young-muslim-and-french/info-graphic-muslim-populations/info-graphic-muslim-populations-worldwide-growth/2526/. However, that is &amp;lt;1% of Muslims worldwide per year, not &amp;lt;1% of all Muslims over their lifetime, as our current wording might lead some to believe.&lt;br /&gt;
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The link I provide my also be of use as an additional source for this. [[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:59, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It also seems like a bad use of statistics. It's useful if you are trying to determine whether a random Muslim converted to Christianity, but is less useful when you're talking about a specific person where lots of other evidence makes a raw percentage meaningless. The percentage of Americans who become President is a lot lower than 1%, but that doesn't mean that Obama didn't become President.[[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 14:33, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: When the inherent fallacy of weak induction is pointed out that is ignored, however the factual correction to the nature of the 1% number probably will not. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 22:40, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There is nothing fallacious about the 1% statistic, or its use here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:47, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: But do you agree that the information I presented here, in so far as it relates to the proper wording of this part of the article, is also not false, but is in fact a more reasonable summary of the truth behind the 1% number? I'm not trying to make any statement about how applicable the figure may or may not be when talking about Obama's own religious status; that's clearly a broader debate for another time. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:49, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I know you're committed to this 1% argument and won't change it, but would you care to address my affirmative action question, above, regarding Harvard Law grading and law review editorial board policies?[[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 00:14, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's name in Arabic? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama II (Arabic: باراك حسين أوباما)(allegedly born in Honolulu Aug. 4, 1961) &amp;quot; [[User:UnLiberal|UnLiberal]] 15:46, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wikipedia does that for Arabs, not Muslims. Also we should get someone who actually reads Arabic rather than a Google translation, anyone can punch something into an internet translator. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 18:17, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem with your auto-translate is that it has too many vowels.  It's assuming that you typed in a non-Arabic word and it's trying to reproduce it phonetically, instead of just figuring out the original version.  I looked up &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Barack&amp;quot; on Wikipedia to see how they're spelled, Googled up those two words together in Arabic, and found the following full name spelled just like this all over the place:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it'd be a pretty neat touch to add to the article, honestly. [[User:DavidLReyes|DavidLReyes]] 18:13, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Retaining the full content of the second sentence would give readers a better grasp of the context in which he made this statement. Why did you choose to omit this information? And on what basis do you present this as proof that Obama is a Muslim?&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, knowing the context seems to weaken the point’s usefulness in revealing Obama’s religion, because it suggests that the quote was informed by his time living abroad rather than his own personal beliefs. If I spent several years living in Thailand and later commented that the experience showed me that Buddhism was compatible with the modern world, would you think I was a Buddhist?&lt;br /&gt;
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If we insist on continuing to build the case for Obama’s religion, let’s please do so carefully so that we do not omit or obscure any relevant information. If the quote is to remain in the article, I propose that the line be altered to read&lt;br /&gt;
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NB - I would make this and other minor changes myself, but the article is locked. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 18:49, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The background adds nothing.  Obama's promoting Islam with his statement itself, and there will be many more examples during his term.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:26, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I understand your desire for brevity, I respectfully disagree. I think that a reader's interpretation of the quote could be made very different given the full context, especially considering the heading under which we provide it here. And though I do see how the statement itself could be seen as a promotion of Islam, there are many things which are &amp;quot;compatible&amp;quot; with the modern world that not everyone would want to endorse - homosexuality (even if you disagree with it, there's no question that it is becoming more and more accepted by society every day), war (just look at Africa), and drug use just to name a few. One could correctly state that they are thriving in these times without endorsing them. Lastly, how does the expectation of more examples of his support for Islam have any bearing on the inclusion or exclusion of information regarding this one? --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 20:38, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Conservapedia has [http://www.conservapedia.com/Out_of_context this] to say about quotes taken out of context. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 09:02, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More religion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The intro states that Obama &amp;quot;chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; His first oath was also real. It was cited as being legally binding. It's misleading to call the second oath &amp;quot;real.&amp;quot; Also, did he choose not to use a Bible, or did he just not use one? This is an important point. Anyone care to look into this and change it if necessary? [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 17:19, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Perhaps you think Obama's aides wouldn't let him use the Bible for his real, private oath???  Please.  Obama could have easily used a Bible ... if he wanted to.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:01, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You've ignored my first point, which is that the first oath was also real, valid and legally binding. It's misleading and inaccurate to distinguish the second oath as &amp;quot;real,&amp;quot; when the first one was equally so. But as to my second point, it's this kind of thing that prevents Conservapedia from becoming truly encyclopedic; writers are choosing to rely on their own logical deductions instead of verifiable sources. The sentence says Obama &amp;quot;chose not use&amp;quot; a Bible. The point is you don't know he chose not to use one. Maybe Roberts said they didn't need one. Maybe Obama didn't want to use one. Maybe the only Bible available was a Klingon translation. Who knows? But this article confidently states that he &amp;quot;chose not to&amp;quot; use a Bible without anything to back up that statement. This will never be &amp;quot;The Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot; if this kind of content is permitted. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 11:46, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;Dantes&amp;quot;, your rant is incoherent.  There's no disputing that Obama &amp;quot;chose not to use&amp;quot; a Bible for his real, private oath.  Note, by the way, that if the first oath was &amp;quot;real, valid and legally binding,&amp;quot; then there would not have been a second oath.  No kidding.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:44, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I agree with ASchlafly, it's not as if a Bible would have been hard to find, or as if the second oath was so urgent that there was no time to find one. And why is a second oath needed if the first one was 'real, valid and legally binding'? I doubt he did it for his own amusement: &amp;quot;Hey guys, that was fun, let's do it again!&amp;quot; [[User:ETrundel|ETrundel]] 14:13, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: But that isn't the point. And Aschlafly, I'm sorry you couldn't understand my suggestion. But the fact that you don't like it doesn't make it a rant. I'll explain again, in simpler terms:&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::5) Encyclopedias do not deduce, speculate, assume or opinionate. They state proven facts&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::It doesn't matter if that is the only logical explanation. Without any proof, it's just speculation, regardless of how likely it is. Unless someone can supply a reputable source that says Obama chose not to use a bible, this is an assumption. That makes it biased. Saying &amp;quot;there's no disputing&amp;quot; something isn't the same as proving it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: As to the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; oath, basic research indicates it was done out of a &amp;quot;superabundance of caution,&amp;quot; not because it was legally necessary. See this article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJKZrJDhy6g52PZNb7phfFmsQVow A &amp;quot;seeker of truth&amp;quot; would know this, or at least try to find out. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 14:52, 12 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama is likely the first Muslim President ==&lt;br /&gt;
Found yet another example. Muslim helps Obama get into Harvard. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''&amp;quot;It was former Malcom X lawyer and New York City mayoral candidate Percy Sutton who inadvertently revealed how Obama could even afford to get into Harvard. In a New York television show entitled “Inside City Hall”, Sutton admitted that orthodox Muslim, Black Nationalist, and Black Panther mentor Dr. Khalid al-Mansour personally asked Sutton to help Obama get into Harvard.&amp;quot;'' [http://blogs.newberlinnow.com/speaking_the_truth/default.aspx Barack Obama Couldn't Pass a Background Investigation In His Own Administration] --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 23:49, 3 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blogs are nice. But if you're going to use one as a source for this article, I would prefer they disclose their own sources so that those sources can be checked. Unfortunately, there was not a single link in the entire post. Maybe an actual video clip of the interview, or a coverage of the story by a news organization? --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 01:00, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dear comrad, you have the peoples names, you have the name of the show, are you mad it is not sourced further for you?-[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 01:13, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not mad, though I am a little disappointed that not everyone here seems interested in pushing for greater quality. We are an internet encyclopedia, and as such are expected to provide credible outside sources for all our material. In any case, I took your advice and went looking for additional sources and found  [http://mediamatters.org/items/200809080018 this coverage] as well as [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/mansourian_candidate.htm this post]. Note that, although both of these are internet blogs, they both provide material in the form of outside links to back up their discussion; the latter even does this with a video of the interview. Yes, the first one is from Media Matters, but it contains some good follow-up. If you're really interested in presenting the truth, more information always helps, even if it means having to dig around and analyze all of it before you figure out what exactly what the truth is. I hope these prove useful. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:23, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: SStaples, now that you've overcome your initial denial and confirmed the accuracy of the statement, do yourself a favor and open your own mind further.  Start recognizing that over half of what you see on television and learned in school is liberal deceit.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:05, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, with respect, I never denied the accuracy of Jpatt's quotation. I merely wanted a better source so that both it and this article as a whole would be better supported. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:32, 5 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama's Tax Cut Claims During the Campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to add this text right before the &amp;quot;Campaign financing&amp;quot; secion:&lt;br /&gt;
:During the campaign Obama repeatedly claimed he would “cut taxes for no less than 95% of &amp;quot;working families.&amp;quot;”. The Wall Street Journal asked, “how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In truth, Obama was calling government handouts “tax credits” and counting those as tax cuts. The WSJ wondered why McCain “allowed Mr. Obama's 95% illusion to go unanswered”. [[User:Sjay|Sjay]] 19:32, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point.  I just unlocked the page for you to insert info as you think best.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:48, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I added this text. Thanks. [[User:Sjay|Sjay]] 20:42, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama &amp;amp; Che Guevara / Fidel Castro etc==&lt;br /&gt;
I was surprised this page had such little about all the connections out there. Thus I have added the fact that his poster is taken to resemble Jim Fitzpatricks Che poster. Also during the campaign his workers were found with Cuban flags bearing the face of Marxist &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; (puke) [[Che Guevara]]. I added this fact as well with a ref. thanks and Cuba Libre ! (free Cuba from Commie-nism) [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 20:18, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Can an admin possibly help me add some images to the page. I want to add [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8Mo9wgzZpRk/SFLC2eJtvXI/AAAAAAAAA8I/zV0AwV3hbVM/s400/obamachehouston2__oPt.jpg This one] of Obamas campaign HQ, with a Cuban Che flag. just google it for more info. Someone also needs to add [http://ecarson.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/im000541.jpg this brilliant image] to the article, showing all of Obamas Commie pals. Story behind it [http://ecarson.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/communist-obama-display/ here]. Lastly I want to add [http://www.virtuousplanet.com/shops/userimages/00003/00000000008/section/00000000000000061879.png this image] I made to his political view section. thanks and Viva Conservatism! [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 20:24, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Abandoned ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is starting to look like nothing more than an abandoned campaign ad. [[User:Everett3|Everett3]] 00:05, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: please be more specific? [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:22, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Page should be unlocked==&lt;br /&gt;
Right now it seems that registered users can't edit the article. Why is that? How do we expect to compete with the Communists at Wikipedia, if we ham string some of our best talent. Things are happening everyday, and our nation irks closer to disaster and Marxist takeover. This article should be our best one, and our most updated. Come on fellas, this is a war of ideas. [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:30, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The reason that it is locked is comments like yours.  Communists at Wikipedia?  That is so over the top, it rounds the bend and meets up with the liberals wacky comments, PaulRevere.  I will be happy to unlock it for you, so long as you read what it says at the bottom of the edit screen: ''&amp;quot;If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;'' --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: With all due respect TK, I disagree on Wikipedia being communist infiltrated in many ways. Just read their Obama article compared to the one here. As for sources and added info, there is tons of good info at [http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289 this article] that I wanted to add. Basically Obama should be described right off the bat as a MARXIST, no if ands or butts about it. [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:47, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Remember encyclopedia's do not use speculation or conjecture. While you and I might agree as to the plausibility of of many of the items in the article, the author's opinion, absent facts, is just that; the opinion of the author.  I have unlocked the article. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Please unlock the article, many recent disasters are missing from it. Thanks &amp;amp; Viva America ! [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:25, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Age template==&lt;br /&gt;
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I mentally calculated his age wrong, which is embarrassing for a math tutor! Anyway, I added an {{tl|age}} template, so on August 4th he'll age one year. And the year after that another, and so on. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:50, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ha ha.  You're a genius, Ed!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:54, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not to boast, but the [[Template:Age]] which I created over at Wikipedia is in over 50,000 articles. It's hard to find a bio there which doesn't use it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:00, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Referring to America in 3rd person? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.&amp;quot;- this is 1st person plural, surely? Sorry to nit pick, but it ''is'' on the front page after all. [[User:WillD|WillD]] 17:27, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Damned if you do, damned if you don't ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the subject of his American flag lapel pin, the &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section says that he ceased wearing one because it &amp;quot;presumably&amp;quot; would have hurt his relations with anti-military campaign donors. Then he starts to wear it again, and this is explained as being &amp;quot;likely&amp;quot; to do with political pandering. It sounds as if the author is determined to view every action Obama takes in a negative light. --[[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 10:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Needed updates for Turkey speech, &amp;quot;no longer Christian&amp;quot;, etc. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't have editing power for this article, but it'd be great if someone can add:&lt;br /&gt;
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*update on Obama's &amp;quot;no longer a Christian nation&amp;quot; comments. [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=67735]&lt;br /&gt;
*confirming that the &amp;quot;speech in muslim capitol in first 100 days&amp;quot; prediction came true (Turkey)&lt;br /&gt;
*any other pertinent facts from his recent speech in Turkey, especially the &amp;quot;Islam is not the enemy&amp;quot; type of content.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Lots of significant events that flesh out his perspective and stance in recent weeks...&lt;br /&gt;
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: Go ahead, David.  I just unlocked it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:14, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Interesting.... so Obama said in Turkey, and I quote, &amp;quot;The United States has been '''enriched by Muslim Americans'''. Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country. I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot; [[User:Pandeism|Pandeism]] 22:36, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::What's also interesting is where you chose to add your emphasis. Why not read it as: &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. '''Many other Americans''' have Muslims in their family, or '''have lived in a Muslim-majority country'''. I know, because '''I am one of them'''&amp;quot;? --[[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 18:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I have respect for Muslims and for Islam, but this hardly makes me non-Christian. I am a Jewish convert to Christianity. I wish we could stop branding Obama as non-Christian. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::If we must criticize him, let's focus on describing his policies and the effects they have had or are likely to have. He is primarily a politician; he is not a religious leader. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:48, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Ed, you make a valid point, but many (including myself, historians, reporters and voters) would disagree.  A president's religious beliefs are significant.  When a president ''lies'' about those beliefs, then the significance is amplified. Do you think Obama told the truth when he campaigned as a Christian?  I don't, and that raises valid questions about what the truth really is that Obama was lying about.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Ed, you suggest focusing only on Obama's policies, but unfortunately policies are often not known in time to object to them.  Obama quickly sent a secret letter to Russia upon becoming president, and the public had no opportunity to object.  Hitler did not publicize his policies to give people an early opportunity to object.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:41, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes he did, most of his polices were clearly laid out in Mein Kampf, which was published before he came to power --[[User:LPowell|LPowell]] 20:21, 20 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*That's really ludicrous.  A small, hardly read tome, little noticed or read, written by a fringe paper hanger,  is hardly (in any era) publicizing something. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:32, 20 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not think that your above description can be accurately applied to Mein Kampf. It consists of two volumes and a total of twenty seven chapters. Granted its popularity grew with its authors profile but it had already achieved 850,000 sales by 1933, the year in which Hitler rose to power. In any case Hitler can hardly be accused of trying to suppress circulation of the book, as is evidenced by the German government’s purchase and distribution of six million copies in the following nine year period. &lt;br /&gt;
In Mein Kampf Hitler sets out his ambitions, including the establishment of a new world order, expanding German territories in the east and exterminating the Jewish people. I must admit that I have not read Audacity of Hope, but would be extremely surprised to discover that it contained similar content. As such think it is a huge leap to try to draw parallels between the two leaders. --[[User:LPowell|LPowell]] 18:18, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Allegedly Born in Honolulu?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The first sentence says he was '''allegedly''' born in Honolulu, except one of the references linking to this statement is a '''confirmation''' from state officials that he was born in Honolulu.  And not to mention he's released his birth certificate.  I think it is dishonest to have the word 'allegedly' here.  I'm taking it out unless anyone objects. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 08:38, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok I changed it and it was instantly reverted back.  It is a '''fact''' that Obama was born in Honolulu verified by many independent sources.  Encyclopedias report '''facts''' not unproven allegations.  I am reverting it back. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:25, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Argument for Obama being a Muslim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we have an honest discussion about this section.  There may be something to it, but a lot of the bullets are a bit absurd.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them.&amp;quot;[16]&lt;br /&gt;
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I interpret this as he '''lived''' in a Muslim country which is true.  This doesn't make him Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama's background, education, and outlook are Muslim, and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.[17][18]&lt;br /&gt;
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This is misleading to say the least.  Random statistics have no place in an encyclopedia.  Does this 1% figure include all the Muslims in the middle east who do not convert to Christianity, it likely does and therefore has nothing to do with Obama who is an educated US citizen.  -[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama recently mentioned his religion as &amp;quot;my Muslim faith.&amp;quot;[21]&lt;br /&gt;
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If you watch the video, it's clearly out of context.  He said &amp;quot;John Mccain has not talked about my Muslim faith&amp;quot;.  Meaning John Mccain had not himself accused Obama of being Muslim.  If you watch a few seconds past this on the video he explains this.&lt;br /&gt;
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* He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;[22]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, it probably is &amp;quot;compatible with the modern world&amp;quot;.  Why is this evidence he is Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on but I am getting tired of this.  I'm not saying get rid of this section, but the claims should be factually correct and not be based on sweeping generalizations.  Furthermore, why is this the first section in the article?  Usually in an encyclopedia, the biographical content comes first.  Early life and legal career and that stuff.  And usually encyclopedia articles not the place for pushing your particular beliefs or rumor about somebody.  I welcome any comments.  --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Paul, you have free will to reject that 2+2=4 too.  I'm not going to spend my morning trying to convince you.  [[Obama]] lied when he campaigned as a Christian.  It may be years before you admit that to yourself, or you may never admit it, or you may admit it but actually like the [[deceit]].  Suit yourself, but the evidence is overwhelming.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:36, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you never addressed my concern about the ordering of the article I'll assume your in agreement.  Biographical information first and then other issues.  By the way, perhaps Obama lied about being a Christian, but if he did, its much more likely he's an Atheist than a Muslim.   -[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:54, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You assume wrong.  Don't think that you're going to downplay the truth by burying it later in an entry.&lt;br /&gt;
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: As to your theory, it just doesn't fit the evidence.  Atheists having Obama's upbringing are virtually non-existent, and atheists' intellectual style is very different from Obama's.  Feel free to start a different entry developing your theory, because it will become apparent quickly how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:11, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's not a truth, it's your theory that he is a Muslim, just as it is my theory that he is an Atheist.  Obama says he is Christian, and who is to say otherwise?  A person's faith is entirely a personal thing, you can never say for certain what he believes in, you have to go with what he has said in public, namely that he is Christian.  Whether he might secretly be Muslim or Atheist is inconsequential, they are both theories, and neither theory belongs in an encyclopedia (which is fact based), end of story. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:31, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And your claim that &amp;quot;Atheists having Obama's upbringing are virtually non-existent&amp;quot; is another sweeping generalization.  Please tell me how that proves that he is a Muslim (or not an Atheist), because it's completely absurd&lt;br /&gt;
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: By the way, Obama's father was an Atheist.  I suspect that most people retain the religion (or lack thereof) of their parents.  But either way, I'm not trying to make the case that he's an Atheist (or that he's not a Muslim).  My point is that he says he's a Christian so anything else is just a theory which has no place in an encyclopedia article (unless this is not really an encyclopedia, but just a forum for pushing your conservative ideology). --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:40, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dog  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we want to add anything about the Obamas' new dog (Portugese water dog)? --[[User:RobertT|RobertT]] 11:19, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion of [[User:Clintville]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe these have been discussed on this talk page before, and settled after input from [[User:Aschlafly]]. In particular, I think it has been exposed that Snopes has been bit gullible in the past when it comes to liberal deceit. As far as the other two items go, though they are not convincing in a vacuum, we must consider them in context of all the other evidence. See the two or three talk page sections above this one, or the talk archives, for more discussion on this. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 01:10, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kenya is not a muslim country. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CIA World Fact Book, Kenya is 78% Christian.&lt;br /&gt;
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So I have deleted the claim that Kenya is a predominantly muslim country. [[User:DanielVaccle|DanielVaccle]] 09:52, 25 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Middle Name in title ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that Hussein is in the title for this article (Barack Hussein Obama). This is not done for any president who doesn't regularly use his middle name (Obama doesn't use Hussein anywhere). Can we either a)take Hussein out of the title of b)add the middle name of every US president. while his middle name i on of the many proofs he is a Muslim, that goes in the article, not in the title.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's the name he was sworn in under.  He's not ashamed of his middle name, why are you? Fair and balanced is a news organization motto, adding a middle name to each President is not a requirement here. Though nobody is stopping you from additions.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:19, 10 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Every other president was sworn in using his middle name and it isn't in there title. I'm not ashamed of his middle name, that is an unfair statement portaying me as a liberal. I will take you up on that challange and add middle names to every president, because we can't single Obama out in the title, it is in the article we go for the kill. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I take that back, it seems as editing the title of an article is harder than it seems. Can anyone help me. {{Unsigned|Backstop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No other President has gone to such lengths to obscure/hide their background and connections, either.  That is why the middle name is used. If you try making the kind of changes you are talking about, we will simply wish you Godspeed, and say goodbye, so I don't suggest it. Also, use the signature button above, when editing, on all posts, please.  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:12, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Obama uses his full name.  Why does that bother you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:12, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, i do believe Obama is a Muslim, based partly on the middle name, but mostly on other proofs. However, there is a time and place for proofs, and the title isn't one of tem, I'm just asking about a minor inconsistency in the titles of articles (the Presidents), why it is there and what is planned to be done about it. i am in no way offended by hiss middle name, that is an unfair comment portraying me as a liberal. &lt;br /&gt;
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TK, we have had presidents smuggle illegal goods out of Italy (Jefferson, who also was reported to have had an affair with his slave that produced a cild), we've had a president who was never married and lived with a male roommate (Buchanan), while Obama ranks right up there, the middle name has nothing to do with it. I respectfuly ask TK to make that connection please.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I saw TK told me I was a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot;. not quite hip with the lingo, can you explain what that means.--[[User:Backstop|Backstop]] 18:24, 13 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Aschlafly asked you above: &amp;quot;Obama uses his full name. Why does that bother you?&amp;quot; Now, it is apparent you are not here to help, but rather to pursue your own agenda.  We are not striving here for NPOV, but rather the facts. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:40, 13 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arguments for Obama being a Muslim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While there is enough proof to convince me Obama is a Muslim in the article, but some of these proofs are untrue or misused:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama is saying that he is a person who has had &amp;quot;Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country&amp;quot; such as his father and Indonesia. not that he is one of those Muslims. That is my interpetation of this statement.''&lt;br /&gt;
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''I think that lots of things can be compatible with the modern world (like my Mac!) but does that make me a follower of the Mac necesarily?'' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class Arabic accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: Allah is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Fareed Zakaria is my favorite author and journalist. I've read his book many times and I'm still not Muslim''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;[38] &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;[39]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Similar things happened for Obama with Hispanics, and I think we all agree Obama is not Hispanic. Maybe Muslims were excited to finaly have a president with a Muslim backround after 8 years of Bush, who they didn't like at all.''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Encyclopedic Setup? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering if it would be ok to try to re-format this on my talk page to include all the same information in a more encyclopedic manner, because...this article isnt very good right now (no offense intended to the writers) [[User:DerekSmalls|DerekSmalls]] 21:42, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Create a page: User:DerekSmalls/Obama draft and that would be fine. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:12, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Derek, forget-about-it if you think you're going to dilute the entry with Wikipedia-style [[placement bias]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:22, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::ok, I'll Try.  Before I start, if i make such an article and you deem it full of placement bias, will I suffer negative side affects?  Because I would rather avoid nefativityt period.  If that makes any sense[[User:DerekSmalls|DerekSmalls]] 18:50, 25 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;effects&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;affects&amp;quot;.  We are logical here.  If your proposed substitute is separate from the entry and does not vandalize it, and is not vulgar or otherwise obviously inappropriate, then there will be no negative side effects.  So feel free to make encyclopedic suggestions.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:48, 25 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggest we delete Muslim accusation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest we delete the section claiming President Obgama to be a muslim as this has already been proven to be false. {{unsigned|Michaelkirschner}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Likely&amp;quot; doesn't suggest positively a Muslim. I am interested in your proof that has yet to be released to the public. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 17:54, 26 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Michelle was Obama's second marriage?==&lt;br /&gt;
Photo of Barack from 1980 at Occidental College with a wedding ring. [http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-me-oxyobama27-2009may27,0,4992416.photogallery?index=3]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:22, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Seconded. Either add it here, and/or to Michelle Obama's page. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Obama's ring as pictured above shows something wider in the center than a normal wedding band, which means he's just got a ring on that he liked at the time.  It's a good pic from his college days, but not evidence he was married in 1980.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:54, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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1) I think the contents needs to be raised up the page. Intro paragraphs, contents, muslim section, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) This article does not mention Obama's snooty mustard gaffe. I suggest the following paragraph be added to the end of the section &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trip to Canada ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's first foreign trip as President of the United States occured yesterday, to Canada.&lt;br /&gt;
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: *sigh* [http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-loves-america-no-really/ yes, yes he has] --[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 17:40, 20 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Demanding Major Change ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not well educated on Obama enough to write an article on him, and even if I did I would not know where to start, but come on! Someone step up to the plate and correct this article. We atleast need a rewrite that presents a case for him being a christian. It can include all the Rev. Wright stuff you want, but if Conservapedia wants to become &amp;quot;The trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot; it has to convey both sides.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a conservapedian, I don't like where this site is going. When writing articles, we can have conservative viewpoints, just not conservative crusades.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's remarkable how people who spell Christian with a small &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; want to insist that Obama is somehow a Christian.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 5 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mr. Schlafly, how that makes someone less christian then somebody else is beyond me.  Petty remarks like that does not help conservapedia's image at all[[User:Skwisgaar|Skwisgaar]] 11:52, 18 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Reminiscent of those who assert the title of catholic with a small c, which in fact means something wholly other than a Catholic (i.e., a Roman Catholic) with a large C. (All Christians are in fact catholic with a small c if I understand it's fairly broad meaning.) --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 23:42, 5 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't think you can &amp;quot;demand&amp;quot; anything here. This is not a place where you can get what you want with the well-worn liberal tactic of stamping your feet and throwing a tantrum.&lt;br /&gt;
: If you have proof that Obama is a Christian, then let us see it. As far as I can tell, he is completely uninterested in Christian fellowship of any kind, which to me is very telling.&lt;br /&gt;
: It is easy to talk the talk. As the Lord himself said:&lt;br /&gt;
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: When and if Barack Hussein Obama shows some evidence of having been washed clean in the blood of Christ, then we can talk. I'm not holding my breath. --[[User:DavidS|DavidS]] 08:34, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::DeanS, you have proof, it's been shown to you multiple times. All the people seem to be interested here is raising a conspiracy theory. They are so set in their ways that arguing against them will yield no results. That's the whole thing about conspiracy theorists: it doesn't matter what proof you show or how complete it is, they will find some hole, real or imagined, and fill it in with whatever belief they hold to actually add strength to their theories. A quick review of the page reveals 3 telling conspiracy theories that are held in belief by the people who hold power on this website: 1) That Obama is a Muslim (he isn't) 2) That Obama wasn't born in Hawaii (He was), and 3) That the majority of Obama's campaign contributions came from anonymous donors (they didn't). That's why this page has been locked from editing, because it has become a war zone and is unlikely to change if it was unlocked. The only solution at this point is to try and gleam what facts you can from this article, and do your own independent research for more facts concerning Obama. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 09:14, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: First of all, I'm David, not Dean. Secondly, Obama certainly doesn't ''act'' like any sort of Christian I care to know: he supports [[abortion]], he is a radical [[socialist]] (possibly a [[Communist]]), and he tells falsehoods. I don't know if he is a Muslim or not, but it seems quite likely, and the page has a lot of evidence showing that he is. --[[User:DavidS|DavidS]] 11:44, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First, my apologies on the name. Secondly, I'm not claiming that Obama is a good Christian, just that he most certainly is not Muslim. The evidence on this page, many of which are blatant falsehoods, are hardly conclusive proof of anything. I have no doubt that if I held any user here under the same scrutiny that Obama has, I could gather enough &amp;quot;evidence&amp;quot; to make a case that they are any religion I choose them to be. Thirdly, just because he may not be the type of christian you want to know doesn't make him not christian. There are many Christians that I [[Ku Klux Klan|don't care to know]]. Does that make them not Christian?--[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 12:13, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Islam is a religion trained to not be noticed, it encourages Muslims to remain hidden, any evidence that Obama isn't Muslim is denied by the one fact that Islam is a religion designed to remain hidden until the moment is right to strike. Recent &amp;quot;negotiations&amp;quot; with the Middle East prove this! --[[User:Deadpool]] (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Even if he is a muslim ,(which i am sure he is not), how does that change anything. Are you suggesting that everyone who is muslim is an amoral terrorist with an agenda to kill all christians and destroy our family values? Are you suggesting that every single muslim follows the tenets unfailingly? Even the most devoted christians i have met follow all of the tenets. A person is a person, religion may play a part in their every day life, but the amount of people willing to die or kill for it is very few.  I met the now-president myself once.  He was a good man who loved his family and his country, more so than many people I have met, liberals AND conservatives. Even though I voted for McCain, he seemed like a good candidate for president. [[User:Skwisgaar|Skwisgaar]] 11:51, 18 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's Atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it is a popular view on this site that Obama is a Muslim, but has anyone considered the possibility that his apparent lack of religious devotion indicates instead that he is an atheist? In an article about Obama on mensvogue.com, it is noted that &amp;quot;Though Obama had long been skeptical of organized religion, he gradually came to embrace it &amp;quot;as a choice, not an epiphany.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mensvogue.com/business/politics/feature/articles/2006/09/11/barack_obama&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is frequently observed on Conservapedia that his claims of religious activity may be self-serving; could they not be an attempt to hide his atheism instead of his Islamic beliefs? After all, Ron Reagan, Jr. once remarked that nobody ever elects atheists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, Conservapedia has also pointed out on numerous occasions that atheists are strongly inclined to dislike America. Is it also not possible that Obama's pro-Islamic behavior is not a series of Freudian slips, but rather a manifestation of his liberal dislike for America?&lt;br /&gt;
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Just some interesting points to consider. Perhaps we could open this up for discussion. --[[User:Economist|Economist]] 18:30, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama Arab-American ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article should, at some point, actually say that Obama is African-American, making him the first black president.  If you really want to leave room for speculation about Warren G. Harding's ancestry, you could write &amp;quot;first openly black president&amp;quot; or something.  But Obama's blackness is clearly a large part of his personal and political identity, and is probably going to be remembered as one of the most historically significant aspects of this election.  An article on Barack Obama should contain a direct statement of this information, period.&lt;br /&gt;
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The editors should also consider putting that information in the first paragraph.  I understand that there is no established rule about the ordering of information in a Conservapedia article.  However, an uneducated reader looking at this article would learn how long his campaign was before learning that he is the first black president, which doesn't make much sense to me. [[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 16:20, 9 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is much distortion in the media about Obama being African-American. '''Obama is actually Arab-American''', and I agree that this page should reflect his race.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).  --[[User:Cwcopela|Cwcopela]] 14:11, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Does it really matter? It's not the technicalities that define what race Americans perceive Obama as - He looks more black, than white and arabic and that's how people will perceive him - They won't perceive him as another rich religious white guy or as an arab because of technicalities like that. --[[User:Atheuz|Atheuz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:*So, perceptions matter above facts? That is typical of [[liberal]] thinking, you know. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, by your own admission Obama is half-Caucasian. Shouldn't we say &amp;quot;first president with significantly ethnic roots&amp;quot; or something (not as politically correct, of course)? [[User:T2master|T2master]] 19:30, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello. Would it be appropriate to create a &amp;quot;family&amp;quot; section in this biography, it seems rather lacking on this point? For the rest it seems very informative, but rather cluttered. Would it be more logical to use a chronological build-up for this biography, such as placing the parts relating to his presidency more to the end of the biography, and his earlier endeavors to the front? Perhaps it would help if the contents table was moved up, at least to end up higher than the first muslim president bit? Let's hope I'm not asking any all-too-stupid questions! ;-) Regards, [[User:AVanbeek|AVanbeek]] 22:51, 12 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't see any of your suggestions as an improvement.  Obama's presidential ambition predates the other items you mention, and his personal beliefs are the most significant.  Encylopedias, like newspapers, prioritize presentation based on significance.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:59, 12 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Shall I go ahead then, and erase &amp;quot;Family&amp;quot; Sections on George W. Bush and McCain's articles? Their great accomplishments surely predate those insignificant sections. [[User:AMurdoc|AMurdoc]] 13:29, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not go ahead and make some positive contributions to this encyclopaedia by creating wanted articles, rather than attempting to be satirical? [[User:MikeSalter|MikeSalter]] 14:18, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd also note that Michelle is refered to by her maiden name in the info box. Checking the previous Presidents, their wives are referenced in First Last or First Maiden Last (Laura Bush and Hillary Rodham Clinton). Any reason not to have Michelle Obama or Michelle Robinson Obama? Is there some dispute about her legal name? As her name has changed in the popular view and the law, this information would appear to be just wrong. &lt;br /&gt;
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: I agree, it is safe to say it will not be a Koran. I think i'ts also safe to say this is exactly the kind of &amp;quot;trickery&amp;quot; a Christian would use. Is it worth a mention in the &amp;quot;likely Christian&amp;quot; section? oh wait... [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 11:59, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: So Obama is damned if he does use a Bible, and damned if he doesn't.  Seems a bit unreasonable.  None of those other candidates were ever accused of being &amp;quot;Manchurian Muslims&amp;quot; just because they DID use a Bible to get sworn in.  Then again, none of those other candidates had brown skin and a funny name, right? [[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 12:55, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Typical [[liberal]] [[race baiting]]... How about you come up with evidence rather than allegations? [[User:CWood|CWood]] 16:47, 18 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::None of the other candidates hid from questions about their past, it's Obama's own fault. Nobody ever said his name was funny except Obama. The brown skin comment is over the top racist ploy. You know very well that there are more respected, patriotic, qualified 'brown skin' people that are deserving of presidency, Obama isn't one of them. FYI- slanderous allegations are deserving of a permanent block here. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 13:03, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about slanderous allegations that a man is lying to the country about his religion?  Do those count?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm not accusing anyone of racism per se.  I'm just pointing out that no other presidential candidate has ever had to prove to the country that he is not a Muslim.  And let's be honest - that's because all the other presidential candidates have been white guys named George or Bill or Ron or Jimmy, and this one is a black guy named Barack.  If people WANT to believe he's a Muslim (the authors of this article clearly do) it's easier to do so.  If you can't see the connection between his race/name and the popularity of the belief that he is a Muslim, you're not looking hard enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyway, this is all a moot point.  He's not a Muslim.  As time goes by after Obama takes office, this page will look increasingly loony.  I guess if Obama really turns out to be an Al-Qaeda sleeper agent poised to sabotage the United States in a plot straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, I will be the one looking loony.  But I think I'll take that chance.[[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 17:55, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama (born in Honolulu,[1][2][3] August 4, 1961) served as a first-term Democratic Senator from Illinois (2004-2008) and then, along with his running mate Senator Joseph Biden, won the presidential election[4] after twenty-three months of campaigning, raising an unprecedented $750 million and spending over $700 million of it,[5]. Post-election, Obama indicated that he would make an unprecedented speech within his first 100 days from a Muslim capital.[6]  (7][8]  &lt;br /&gt;
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in other words raising the tax rates on business and the wealthy   in order to redistribute their income to low income individuals, many of whom don't currently pay income taxes.[11] His health care plan requires employers to purchase health care or pay a fine and will require many into a single payer system.[12] To announce his trip to Berlin in July 2008, Obama used posters which show a marked similarity to posters of others.[13] During Obama's youth in Hawaii, he developed a strong, almost Father/Son relationship with Frank Marshall Davis.14]&lt;br /&gt;
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The claim that Fareed Zakaria's book ''The Post-American World'' &amp;quot;is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; is not supported by the reference, [35]. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 15:41, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ah yes, Fareed Zakaria is actually a Jewish name, written from a Juda perspective. Let's get serious ok? --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 15:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The ''Village Voice'' article that was referenced describes Zakaria as a secular Muslim, but it doesn't mention the book at all.  Do you not think it's possible for someone to write a book on a secular topic without injecting his religious point of view? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 16:20, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cleary Obama has a Muslim background but is not a Muslim. Some reference to Muslim allegations, rumors and conspiracy theories might be appropriate but Obama is not a Muslim. You people are making yourself look silly beyond belief.&lt;br /&gt;
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: So smarty pants, prove he is no longer Muslim. Also, what does the word 'likely' mean to you?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:44, 22 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picture==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AC776AB92D53D08B124F57F6B9B6C2.jpg‎]] Here's a picture of our plotting leader. Too sinister? --[[User:StevenM|Ṣ₮ёVeN]] 09:41, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Interesting, Steven.  But where did you get it from?  The uploads should reflect the source and claim of ability to use it, unless before 1923 (in which everything is public domain).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh yes. sorry, i got it from the msn.com do i need promission to take photos from there? --[[User:StevenM|Ṣ₮ёVeN]] 14:03, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama/Muslim Support ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the May be a Muslim section, it says that he had an increased support of Muslim voters.  How does this prove he is Muslim? While this should be kept, It should be moved to another  section.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nation of Islam's annual convention in a Chicago suburb, a white T-shirt with an image of Obama between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. sold for $10. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The Muslim community supports their Muslims. MLK just thrown into the mix for his iconic black image. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jGXLhxPilGxuVttW5L588O-y4uAAD96LKH200]&lt;br /&gt;
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== I know we lost a week... ==&lt;br /&gt;
But we can't stay in some alternate universe where G.W.Bush is still president forever, especially if this article is going to link to the front page. We need to update this article to show that Obama is now president. I would do so, but its locked. As it has been. For quite some time. --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 23:57, 27 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Low Res Pic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is the leading picture of Obama such a low resolution version? It looks crappy when stretched [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:20, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: That's the only picture we could get from the White House Web site. It certainly surprises me, because I would have thought that they would have a very high-resolution picture of...&amp;quot;Him.&amp;quot; We might try the White House site again to see whether &amp;quot;He&amp;quot; has corrected this&amp;amp;mdash;er&amp;amp;mdash;oversight.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:26, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wikipedia found one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Official_portrait_of_Barack_Obama.jpg) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::(I could have sworn i edited this already, did we loose some more from the database?) The orginal high resolution image can be obtained from the change.gov site; http://change.gov/page/-/officialportrait.jpg . Updating to this version should fix all the scaling artefacts --[[User:SCarter|SCarter]] 22:10, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Second swearing in ceremony? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised that this isn't even mentioned in the article, but when Obama retook the Oath he DIDN'T USE A BIBLE. In fact, there was no video recording of the session and the picture taken only showed him from the chest up. This is profound evidence of being Unchristian at the very least. Since we can't see his left hand during the ceremony, it could be on anything ... dare I say, the Koran?? (source http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-takes-oath-office/)  [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:40, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I consider swearing on the Bible to be un-Christian, because of Matthew 5:34-37, where swearing on anything is expressly forbidden by Jesus.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:48, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, the second swearing-in ceremony was hardly &amp;quot;private.&amp;quot;  There were a number of reporters present.  Even if it were private, the first ceremony is the one that is constitutionally binding.  In any case, the allegation in the main article needs a citation.  There are plenty out there, so get to it!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rejects ID, Pushes Evolution (Over Christianity!?) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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From the responses to a Q&amp;amp;A sent out by Nature: Do you believe that evolution by means of natural selection is a sufficient explanation for the variety and complexity of life on Earth? Should intelligent design, or some derivative thereof, be taught in science class in public schools?&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama: I believe in evolution, and I support the strong consensus of the scientific community that evolution is scientifically validated. I do not believe it is helpful to our students to cloud discussions of science with non-scientific theories like intelligent design that are not subject to experimental scrutiny. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/in-obamas-own-words/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Remnick, who at this point could be considered the President of the United States of Magazines, forced Obama to address the topic of religion. &amp;quot;It's not 'faith' if you are absolutely certain,&amp;quot; Obama said, noting that he didn't believe his lack of &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; would hurt him a national election. &amp;quot;Evolution is more grounded in my experience than angels.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/magazines/barack_obama_i_inhaled_that_was_the_point_46068.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow. [[User:CherylE|CherylE]] 10:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Allegedly born in Honolulu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does it still say he was allegedly born in Honolulu? Later on in the page it says the it was proven his birth certificate is genuine. [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:We merely state that FactCheck.org believed the photo of the birth certificate was genuine.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:58, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe it should be rewritten then since now it reads more like it states a fact that the birth certificate is indeed genuine. I'm guessing 99% of people never even check the reference.[[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Additionally, he's already been sworn in as president, so arguing over where he was born is a moot point. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 23:57, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama article has no family section. Neither does Clinton's or Carter's. However, Reagan's, Bush the elder's and W.Bush's articles have them. Why none on the democratic presidents'? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:42, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There's a simple answer: Obama, Clinton, and Carter are Democrats.  They belong to an anti-family party, therefore their family is irrelevant to their political existence.  Family is central to Republican policy, and so it is impossible to understand President Bush without mentioning his family.&lt;br /&gt;
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:He has a family though, doesn't he? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 13:47, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but a Democrat family, which is something entirely different.  [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 2:22, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: How about adding a family section now mentioning his half brother in Kenya who was arrested for drug possession? Shouldn't there be something about him on the page? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 08:02, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This argument doesn't make sense. If he's &amp;quot;anti-family,&amp;quot; '''he wouldn't have a family'''. I suppose by &amp;quot;anti-family,&amp;quot; you mean pro-abortion. That has nothing do to with whether to include his own family. A good encyclopedia doesn't leave out information for reasons like this. It's relevant and it should be here.[[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 17:09, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some Changes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is this locked?&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has not been succeded by &amp;quot;incumbent&amp;quot; nor will he be.&lt;br /&gt;
Obamas term in office might not go to 2013, it might go further, it might not go that far, unless you are psychic this should be changed. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 11:58, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Incumbent&amp;quot; means he is the current holder of the office. It's simply a term to indicate that he is the most recent. And while it is true that Obama could be elected to a second term and thus serve until 2017, he hasn't. His first term expires on 2013 regardless of what happens between now and then (barring impeachment or death, of course) so it's factual to list that date. Listing a second term when he's only a week and a half in his first one is speculative and inappropriate for an encyclopedia. --[[User:Ampersand|Ampersand]] 14:49, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
It's the exact same thing we did with [[George W. Bush]] - &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;there's nothing factually wrong about saying whoever replaces obama will be an incumbent.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; - saying incumbent merely confirms that he is the current president - no one has succeeded him yet.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is he or isn't he President?==&lt;br /&gt;
This article has a lot of wildly inaccurate and unsourced information in it.   It also can't seem to decide whether BO is President or not - the picture on the right says he is, the text varies from claiming he's won the election, to him being Senator.   I'd love to help clean this up, but can't seem to edit the page?   Ready to help.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 15:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, it's pretty weird isn't it. One would have thought that if it was important enough to protect then it would be important enough to update. But the failure to update tells the casual reader what to expect in respect of the general accuracy of the article - so it's probably not a bad thing.--[[User:British_cons|British_cons]] [[User_talk:British_cons|(talk)]] 11:12, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I notice the article has been updated to make it somewhat more reality-based.    Good.   However, I would expect  - almost to the case of 'demand' - that the article on the current POTUS begin with the short and simple line &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is the 44th and current President of the United States of America&amp;quot;.   Instead, the first sentence about this, arguably the world's most important person, is overlong, appallingly punctuated, begins immediately with unfounded gossip and wanders off into some other random irrelevant facts and utterly lacks focus.   It says a lot about what the reader can expect from the entire article to follow.   I wish I could help rewrite this article so as it would be more based on fact and reality - and particularly, better written - but as it's locked, that's impossible.   So all we, the casual readers, can do is suggest things which need to be done to improve the article.   I would begin by recommending the deletion of the entire monster and a total rewrite from scratch.   There's nothing here of substance and nothing that will engender any respect for this supposed 'encyclopedia'.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 13:33, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It's a shame we can't all be as learned and insightful as you, FNNoonan. However, I dare say all the hard-working editors here will jump up to obey your lofty commands. If you want a 'better' article, why not write one on your userpage/in a sandbox and submit it to the criticism of your peers? Or is this a case of 'those who can't, criticise'? [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 14:19, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: You must not have read my comment, in which I made a suggestion to improve the article's first sentence.   What's yours?   You might try contributing something to the debate rather than trying to shoot the messenger.   The message is  - the article's a disaster.   Now, what are you doing about that?   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 16:24, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I don't think it a disaster, but a multi-layered and well-argued piece. Looking at the revision history and talk pages, I see that some of the best minds on Consercvapedia think so, too. Therefore I have no need to do anything. You, on the other hand, see faults, but do nothing except indulge yourself in corrosive criticism. [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 17:10, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I would also point out that the article even fails to mention which country he's President of.   I would again recommend the inclusion of my suggested opening sentence - &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is the 44th and current President of the United States of America&amp;quot;.   Thank you for helping to improve this terrible article.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 14:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should begin with &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is currently the 44th President of the United States of America.&amp;quot; Someone please make this change.  [[User:Gadzodilo|Gadzodilo]] 23:22, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for improving the article's first few words - we now know what his job is and of what country he's President.   But I would ask that someone PLEASE look at the grammar in that first sentence - it's absolutely atrocious.   Again, since I cannot edit the page, I cannot help but instead can only point out the problems here.   First, if you want to make the point about his birthplace, the correct place would be later - and then with an explanation of why this might be a problem (the Constitution states that President's must be born in the USA - there's no mention of this anywhere in the article).   If you want to make the point where it is, despite that being a nonsequitor, simply add a period after 'States' and remove the word 'although'.   Also please note that the word 'although' is a conditional - and what follows the word 'although' has nothing to do with the opening part of the sentence.   You might as well write &amp;quot;He is the President of the USA, although he apparently doesn't like cheese&amp;quot;.   The two items have no connection.   Subject-Object.   Next, the entire first sentence is utterly malformed, with a punctuation that woulod shame a four year old, including a period in the middle of the sentence.   There is what is presumably a birthdate just floating in the middle of the sentence, undescribed.   This is followed by a close-parentheses, where there was no open-parentheses.    The sentence then runs on with some gibberish about electoral donations.   It also appears as if Joe Biden was his running mate while he was a Senator from Illinois.   The first paragraph continues in what can barely be described as comprehensible English with a stream of random, unintroduced facts.   Finally, it ends with a nonsensical reference to the absolutely normal practice of politicians referring to the practices of their nation, and addressing their nation as a collective body.   I would love to help tidy up this amateur article, but the childish English throughout, combined with the fact that the article is locked, leave me to believe it is not possible, and this encyclopedia is anything but 'trustworthy'.   Would you trust your children with this article?   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 14:16, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Real Bible NOT Koran ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I been waiting for that one, but I’m not holding my breath. But since Obama DID in fact swear on Lincoln’s Bible that means (check this one in archives) you clowns owe me $100. Each. (American notes thank you.) [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 18:31, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You're clueless, Myles.  Obama's real oath was not on the Bible.  I don't know if it was on the Koran.  Do you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:01, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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OP Myles back. Right, let me see if I can sum up the state of play. Obama tries to take the Oath on the Lincoln Bible, which presumably has special powers not available to the usual Gideon’s Hotel edition. Anyways, Chief Justice Roberts manages to bellyflop his role in history. It’s like the guy who needs play only one note on a triangle during the symphony and manages to foul that up. Along with 90% of the world, I thought that Obama was completely blameless for this glitch, and actually quite gracious. His face and bearing said “Hey, you stuffed up, but I forgive you. Let’s try it again.” This was not what the foaming at the mouth crowd saw, and talk here was of how Obama was not properly inaugurated, and that somehow it was all his fault. Then, to satisfy the New Philistines, he takes the oath, again. This time, no one of the Born Again crowd who frequent these occasions thinks to bring a Bible, but it is Obama’s fault once more, because apparently he should have one in his back pocket at all times. He takes the oath again. Hey, that’s good enough for me, but apparently I’m clueless, according to Andy, who, in one of his regular 2 line missives from above believes there’s more to this than meets the eye.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, let me see. I suppose Obama could have paid Roberts off in the first instance to screw up the wording, so he would not have to put his hand on the Bible. (Because then he would wince with pain as the Word of God burnt his skin, or something.) This set up the SECOND inauguration at which everyone was paid to make sure no Bible was there, so Obama gets to be Prez while cunningly evading the Bible. You see, it all makes perfect sense, don’t it? Yeah, and I’M the one who’s clueless! Truly, what a man believes, he sees. Look, I’ve got an idea. Instead of hurling everything you got including the kitchen sink at Obama on a second by second basis, every time he so much as scratches his nose, let’s take the fair-minded, objective, dare I say American approach. It’s the customary 100 day honeymoon. Why don’t we all give him those 100 days, and THEN have a look at the plus and minus sheet? Sound like a sensible notion? Of course, that would mean putting your knee in some other crotch for that time, which is asking a hell of a lot I know. But then you would have some REAL grievances at the end instead of the kind of sort of all this relentless muck-raking on the basis of trivia. And just think of the size of the bonfire you could build then. &lt;br /&gt;
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You know, where I come from conservatives are known as people with a sense of honour, with ethical standards, polite and cultivated, aware of etiquette, educated, and with a keen sense for fair play. You might be using a different dictionary. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Myles, please read the box at the top of this page, and adhere to it.  Thanks. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:55, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Myles, one can tell you're a liberal just by observing how many words it takes you to say nothing.  Your non-American spelling of &amp;quot;honor&amp;quot; is also a giveaway.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:43, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Somebody decides to spell 'honour' the way that it is spelt correctly in '''English''' (the mother-tongue of '''England''') and you decide to try and be insulting about it.  Classy.--[[User:Ieuan|Ieuan]] 12:47, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And I have to ask... why is using non-American spelling a liberal trait? Our Prime Minister up here in Canada is as conservative as they come... [[User:SJames|SJames]] 13:37, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: It doesn't show you're non-conservative. It shows you are not American, or an un-American person. [[User:T2master|T2master]] 19:30, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In the box to the right of the page it says that Obama will be succeeded by [[incumbent]]? Doesn't this imply that he will have two terms? I'm a bit confused. [[User:AndyJM|AndyJM]] 11:19, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I can understand the confusion, but all it implies is that he is the current President. It would probably be better if the whole line was removed until we actually know who he would be succeeded by. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 13:09, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, I tried to fix it up, I really did. But it was hard what with the lock down. I tried dabbing liquid paper on my monitor but that didn’t work very well either. Normally, “Not known” or “To be announced” or “To be determined” are the accepted forms, but hey, what about &amp;quot;Sarah Palin&amp;quot;? Let’s be positive and proactive about this. That lady is gonna wipe the floor with this Obama ring in.  I’m marching in her parade right now. “Palin ain’t for failin’ “ &lt;br /&gt;
::Whoo hooo!!” [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 21:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stylistic matter ==&lt;br /&gt;
Technically, it is proper to simply list the day of Obama's inauguration followed by a dash, as, God forbid, he might be reelected in 2012. So we can't say until the election when his last day in office will be... --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 09:36, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I believe you are not correct. ''Technically'' he was elected to a four year term. The text for the info box says term of office, no?  That would be four years from his inauguration, 20 January, 2009.  One doesn't typically take into account the possibility of death, resignation or re-election. Perhaps you are saying what is &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; for Wikipedia?  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:52, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=George_W._Bush&amp;amp;oldid=598707] seems like a reasonable template &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; for Conservapedia.  The Bush entry was changed from &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; to January 20, 2009 less than three weeks before the date that he was definitively leaving office.[[User:Mikek|Mikek]] 14:51, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he was elected to and his actual term in office can be different things. William Henry Harrison was elected for a four year term but his actual term was one month. As I recall Bushes article said 'present' until several days after his term was over. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:11, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, that's almost universal. We don't know when his term will end. He could be re-elected in four years, or shot tomorrow. We can't say when his term will ''actually'' end. Wikipedia, by the way, doesn't even have a dash- just &amp;quot;assumed office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;incumbent&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;January 20, 2009.&amp;quot; If accuracy is our goal, it's best to simply put a dash, or a dash followed by &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;incumbent.&amp;quot; --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 15:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As the article for [[Barack Hussein Obama]] includes his full name, [[John McCain]] should redirect to [[John Sidney McCain III]], [[Joe Biden]] to [[Joseph Robinette &amp;quot;Joe&amp;quot; Biden, Jr.]], etc. - [[User:LafinJack|LafinJack]] 17:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*No.  But you just keep on LafinJack. ;-) --  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::They are referring to the fact that only Barack Obama's middle name is included in the article name, while the others are not. They are wondering why that is. &lt;br /&gt;
::The obvious answer: Hussein is a Muslim name. It helps when trying to portray the slant that President Obama is lying about being a Christian. &amp;quot;Sidney&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Robinette&amp;quot; are regular Western middle names and serve no significant purpose.  A similar line of reasoning can also explain why the Table of Contents is oddly out of view in President Obama's article. [[User:AdamSchaley|AdamSchaley]] 19:21, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Leave it to a liberal to reduce this discussion to nonsense, innuendo, and pointless name-calling.  What's the use of even trying to have this discussion when you won't discuss things rationally? [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 19:42, 01/09&lt;br /&gt;
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::I should remind you that this is a Conservative Christian encyclopedia with an ADMITTED BIAS. The goal is obvious: To show readers that Obama is a Muslim, however this is in line with the principals of the encyclopedia, so there isn't anything really to complain about. Conservatives want everyone to understand Obama is a Muslim. There is no NPOV, get over it (my $.02) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 21:56, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm pretty sure his religion should have no bearing in the first place. Then again, you're the type of moron who lets a candidate's religious faith influence your vote. &amp;quot;I AINT GON' VOTE FOR NO MUSLIMS OR JEWS.&amp;quot; I'm quite sure the color of his skin also has a bearing on you. Let's not forget that there isn't any credible evidence that he's indeed a Muslim. --[[User:VictorT|VictorT]] 17:45, 7 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think &amp;quot;Obama will likely be the first Muslim President&amp;quot; would be better written as &amp;quot;Obama is likely the first Muslim President&amp;quot; ... just a thought [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 22:08, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nah, let's not. --[[User:VictorT|VictorT]] 17:47, 7 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd just like to rerequest that the Obama main picture get updated with a higher resolution version. It looks very bad stretched. Here is a URL to an official version (http://change.gov/page/-/officialportrait.jpg) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 10:58, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Done. Thanks for the link. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's religious outlook ==&lt;br /&gt;
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First, Obama heavily promotes the abortion (&amp;quot;pro-choice&amp;quot;)  ideology.[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=72511]  How many Muslim countries promote the abortion ideology?  Not many at all.  I cite the following: &amp;quot;The rules are also influenced by the role of religion; in most Muslim countries abortion is prohibited and it is also restricted in Catholic Latin America.&amp;quot;[http://www.newsbatch.com/abort.htm]  &lt;br /&gt;
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One of the first things the Obama administration did was to put on the White House website that they were going to promote the homosexual agenda.  I cite the following: &amp;quot;President Obama had not even finished his inaugural address today before his agenda was posted on the WhiteHouse website, where he promised to &amp;quot;overturn&amp;quot; the Supreme Court's precedents on discrimination claims and to demand new laws requiring employers to provide special protections for homosexuals and others with &amp;quot;gender&amp;quot; issues.[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=86633]  I do know for a fact that homosexuality is presently generally looked upon very unfavorably in Muslim countries. I cite the following: &amp;quot;Same-sex intercourse carries the death penalty in five officially Muslim nations: Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, Sudan, and Yemen. [3] It formerly carried the death penalty in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and in Iraq under a 2001 decree by Saddam Hussein. The legal situation in the United Arab Emirates is unclear. In many Muslim nations, such as Bahrain, Qatar, Algeria or the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with jail time, fines or corporal punishment. In some Muslim-majority nations, such as Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, or Mali, same-sex intercourse is not forbidden by law. However, in Egypt gays have been the victims of laws against &amp;quot;morality&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;[http://www.religionfacts.com/homosexuality/islam.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it is untrue to say that Obama's outlook is Muslim. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 04:06, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:His background is [[Islam]]ic, but I am unaware of his theological beliefs. Has he ever espoused a particular Christian or Muslim idea? If so, what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 20 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's Historical Ignorance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The first statement in the Insights section claims that &amp;quot;Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a few things wrong with what Obama said about Pearl Habor, but none of them constitute ignorance. The only things wrong with what he said are that he a) did no pluralize the phrase to &amp;quot;from the bombs that fell on Pearl Habor&amp;quot;; b) he wasn't accurate in the kind of weaponry used because they were actually torpedoes (which is hardly ignorance as it is a largely insignificant fact); or c) the fact that he failed to properly pluralize 'bomb' means that his phrase seems to reference a far more infamous bomb, the one on Hiroshima. This last point of course does not constitute ignorance. Even if he did mistaken Hiroshima for Pearl Habor I would see that as a gaff rather than evidence of impeded ignorance towards American history. But, given that, in the context of 'constantly evolving danger' and the other historical references contained within the whole statement, it is quite clear Obama did not mean Hiroshima, I would be inclined to either edit or remove this phrase entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
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First, very little was removed or changed, but there was some there which was either repetative or in the wrong context.  This I hope was corrected.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, the place of birth was changed to Hawaii.  There has to be ''proof'' that he was ''not'' born in Hawaii, and we cannot allow someone else's opinion in the article which states that he was not.  But, the birth controversy is still a relevent topic as far as his possible history and the campaign is concerned, and this feature has been preserved.&lt;br /&gt;
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And third, there are minor corrections to be made to the article, which include writing and grammer, accuracy, and minor info that could be added as to his presidency.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:50, 2 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Andrew Schafly was right to move the sections back into their previous order.  [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think that speculation should come after factual information in an article. Why are we talking about what Obama &amp;quot;may be&amp;quot; before what he actually is? --'' '''[[user:JArneal|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#006666&amp;quot; &amp;gt;JArneal&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'' ''' 18:29, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There you go again!  &amp;quot;Actually is&amp;quot; ? I think first, JArneal, in the great tradition of liberals, you need to define what &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; -- ''is''!  Please find a new hobby, JArneal, as your present one of constantly arguing and disputing doesn't wear well. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:59, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why must liberals censor that Obama is likely a Muslim... get over it guys --[[User:PMichael|PMichael]] 20:06, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Why can't conservatives accept the fact that he isn't...get over it guys --[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 20:37, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Sheesh, TK. I'm sorry if I offended you. Do you really want me to define &amp;quot;is&amp;quot;?  I was just asking why we don't put factual information in front, and speculation in back. Is there a reason? --'' '''[[user:JArneal|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#006666&amp;quot; &amp;gt;JArneal&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'' ''' 22:24, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama and Sexism  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the &amp;quot;Presidential Campaign&amp;quot; section of this article it states &amp;quot;Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being '''a woman''' and outsider.&amp;quot; The evidence of Obama mocking Palin for being a woman is explained later: &amp;quot;Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her.&amp;quot; Are you talking about this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eu9Z2hXky0&amp;amp;eurl=http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php ? How is this video a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear? Not only that, but there is little evidence to support the claim that Obama hired Winner to make this video.&lt;br /&gt;
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The article suggests that Obama was caught for hiring someone to make a sexist smear video. I am asking for definitive proof that Obama was behind the video, AND definitive proof that the video is a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear. If there is no proof, I am at least requesting that the untrue statements about Obama mocking Palin for being a woman are removed. If I do not get a response from one of the editors of this article I will email the owners of Conservapedia directly. [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 19:25, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First, if you have correct information as to who was actually behind the video in question then it needs to be brought to our attention in a fair manner.  Second, the way you brought this about, by making your statement here in the form of a DEMAND, is not going to be tolerated.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, if my tone sounded as though i was demanding something from you or seemed disrespectful in some way I apologize, that was not my intent. I am merely requesting that the article changes it's tone. It states: &amp;quot;Obama was caught...&amp;quot; we do not know for certain that Obama was behind the video at all. Are we as Americans not considered innocent until proven guilty?&lt;br /&gt;
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And what about the charges of sexism? The article calls the video a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear. Will someone please tell me what was sexist about it? [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 23:02, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looking at the references, it is a documented fact that this video was made professionally; it is not an amateur attempt at all.  It's also documented that Winner &amp;amp; Associates (including Ethan Winner) are die-hard Obama supporters who have given much to the campaign.  While it is not proven from these pages that Obama supported such a video, it is also not proven that he didn't help out the creation of it in some way.  I added Ethan Winner's ''alleged'' claim that he made the video alone.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 22:17, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well that is a start, thank you. I honestly didn't think I'd get anyone to change anything in the article. But there are still those sexism charges. Can you provide some explanation to those? The line reads: &amp;quot;Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her.&amp;quot; Do you think you might be able to take out that word sexist? And maybe reword it in a way that doesn't immediately imply that Obama is behind the video (Until damning evidence is brought forth)? And there is also the claim at the beginning stating: &amp;quot;Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider.&amp;quot; The only evidence supposedly supporting the claim that Obama mocked Palin for being &amp;quot;a woman and outsider&amp;quot; is this smear video. Am I just missing something here? How is Obama mocking her for being a woman in this video? How is the video itself at all sexist? [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 23:02, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*FairMan, you are in danger of being blocked.  There was a well-documented news story, during the campaign, showing women were getting paid less on his campaign staff and in his Senate offices, which was hugely embarassing to Obama. [http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obamacommentary/222679,CST-NWS-sweet22.stng]  Palin was mocked by Obama and Joe Biden, for her so-called &amp;quot;lack of experience&amp;quot; even though her own exceeded Obama's, in terms of executive/managerial experience.  Please stop your liberal excuse making and time-wasting.  Learn the truth, and it will set you free! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:31, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why exactly am I in danger of being blocked? I am aware of that news story, I will save that for another place and time (I don't want to stir up more trouble then I am already in). My main complaint is that the article claimed that Obama mocked Palin for being a woman. The only evidence that supports this claim in the article is the link to the smear video mentioned previously (If there is more evidence then please add it). It is claimed that the video is a sexist smear. Why is my questioning of the label &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; being ignored every time someone replies? Please tell me if I am missing something obvious here. It is not my intent to waste anyone's time. I am just looking for answers.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Palin was mocked by Obama and Joe Biden, for her so-called &amp;quot;lack of experience&amp;quot; even though her own exceeded Obama's, in terms of executive/managerial experience. &amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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That is a great example! That is something you could add to the article to back up the claim of Obama mocking Palin for being an outsider. Currently there is nothing in the &amp;quot;Tone&amp;quot; section of the article backing that up.{{unsigned|FairMan}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Then that is what you should have said, is exactly my point! Everyone wants to be a critic, while offering nothing, as the box at the top of this page says, that will improve it.  If one doesn't do that, how am I, or any editor to distinguish you from the dozens of trolls and disruptor's who sign up everyday?  You know how long it took me to find that citation?  Less then two minutes. I ask for your understanding, but do not apologize for my comments, simply because I have just pointed out why I would think what I did.  &amp;quot;Assume good faith&amp;quot; is something  attempted by lots of other places, but it rarely is achieved, and certainly not so often here, where even the most casual reader/editor knows we are constantly set-up by liberal trolls and parodists.  Your last comments let all of us see your motivations are perhaps better than assumed, and I do thank you for that. This is how you will build your reputation here, and anywhere else in life. I look forward to other suggestions, offered in the same spirit, and in fact, if you want, put them on my talk to make sure I see them, if you want. Thanks.  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:24, 5 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*No, sly mis-naming of the object isn't it? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:53, 6 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a missing parenthesis in his date of birth, and in the &amp;quot;Birth certificate controversy&amp;quot; section, the word &amp;quot;intelligible&amp;quot; should be &amp;quot;ineligible&amp;quot;.  Those are the only 2 I caught in a quick scan of the page.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:32, 7 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks!  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:48, 7 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I'm a new user. I was curious as to whether this talk page is actualy considered in the editing of this article. What i mean by that is, as this article is locked-down, does the editing administrator read this page and make changes to the article, or will the article always be left as it is? ( I don't mean to offend, as Imentioned, I am a new user, and I am honestly just curious)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Flag Pin &amp;quot;insights&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is badly written and requires major change. First, it says Obama didn't provide &amp;quot;adequate&amp;quot; explanation. &amp;quot;Adequate&amp;quot; is subjective. He either provided and explanation or he didn't. The citation indicates he explained. Second, the word &amp;quot;presumably.&amp;quot; Encyclopedias aren't supposed to presume things. Third, the word &amp;quot;likely.&amp;quot; Again, just an opinion. &amp;quot;Recently&amp;quot; is a vague term; be specific. The assumption about military donors is unsupported speculation. If anyone cares about making this into objective encyclopedic content, it should read as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after 9/11, but later stopped wearing it, explaining he felt that &amp;quot;Patriotism to me, isn't what you wear on your lapel. &amp;quot;It's what you carry in your heart. I don't need a pin to certify my love for this country.&amp;quot;[59] As of DATE, he has begun wearing a pin again.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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*Dantes, why are you here?  If it is to talk, talk, talk, complain, complain, complain, argue, argue, argue, you chose the wrong place. Our tolerance of liberal/socialist Canadians is pretty low. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:24, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, if you bother to read my entries, you'll see that I'm providing civil and rational suggestions for how to make this content more encyclopedic and objective. It's sad that you assume I'm a liberal/socialist just because I'm proposing corrections, and my country of residence is totally irrelevant. The better question would be why are YOU here? I'm here to propose corrections. Apparently you're here to try to insult me. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 11:40, 3 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michelle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could we link to her? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:14, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm pretty sure there is no requirement that one must be Christian to be President.  Ah, I just checked the constitution and it mentions nothing about religion except once, in the first amendment.  He's not a Muslim, which has been confirmed, and even if he were, what does it matter?  Maybe this should be reconsidered?[[User:Heartbeat|Heartbeat]] 16:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Actually, I'm correct on multiple points as per the United States Constitution.  And Hussein is not a 'Muslim' name.  Muslim is the word used to denote a person whose religion is Islam.  Hussein is an ''Arab'' derived name Mr. Schlafly. [[User:Heartbeat|Heartbeat]] 16:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: The Constitution also mentions religion in Article VI &amp;quot;but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.&amp;quot; --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 16:46, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Whatever faith Obama is, he is not a Christian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Xld3RpINYVUJ:www.conversantlife.com/politics/is-barack-obama-really-a-christian+obama+quote+christian&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;cd=11&amp;amp;gl=us&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. For he fails to acknowledge the Nicene creed. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 18:58, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: &amp;quot;Pauline Christians&amp;quot; as opposed to .... Muslim Christians????  Got news for you:  Paul had nothing to do with the Nicene Creed, which is accepted by all Christians.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:48, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Heartbeat, try to stick to the point; and don't be so pedantic. Many people use the terms ''[[Muslim]]'' and ''[[Islamic]]'' interchangeably. Such loose usage does not invalidate an argument. You are surely award that the Arab countries are within the Islamic cultural sphere, and that they almost all are places where the required religion is Islam. So having an Arabic name places one within the Islamic sphere and is a [[clue]], anyway, to someone's religious heritage.&lt;br /&gt;
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These discussions are long on finger-pointing and short on research. Let's have a little more information. Has Obama been attending a church? Is church attendance a better indicator of religious faith than one's father's last name? Was the church he attended Christian? If it doesn't adhere to the [[Nicene Creed]], then is it some sort of heretical variant, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
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And why is it important what his religion is? Does anyone think he plans to violate the [[First Amendment]] by setting up a [[state religion]] (such as [[Islam]])? Or that he plans to neglect the protection of Americans' [[religious freedom]] even more than President Bush did? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Affirmative Action Question ====&lt;br /&gt;
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If all of Obama's achievements are linked to affirmative action, how did he get around Harvard Law's anonymous grading procedures? Did he find a way to communicate his race to his professors on his exams? Is there evidence of this? I know that Andy Schlafly was at HLS at the same time as Obama. Maybe he could shed some light on how Obama accomplished that. Was this not official policy when you went to Harvard: http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/handbook/rules-relating-to-law-school-studies/examinations.html [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 19:15, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Law schools have almost always graded anonymously. Journals like the Harvard Law Review do, admittedly, have affirmative action policies in selecting their editors, but they do ''not'' use affirmative action in selecting board members. So at most Obama got onto HLR by affirmative action, but his grades and election as President were his own accomplishments. Great point RickD.-[[User:LuciusF|LuciusF]] 19:01, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I seem to recall reading that there was a vote in selecting Obama as the President of the Law Review and that a number of conservatives voted for him: http://daggatt.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-harvard-law-days.html&lt;br /&gt;
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::The block of conservatives on the Law Review my year I think was eager to avoid having any of the most political people on the left govern the Review. I mean, the first bedrock criterion, I think for almost all of the editors, was to have somebody with an absolutely first-rate legal mind who would be able to engage competently with the nation's top legal scholars on their scholarship and on these articles, and who would provide the intellectual leadership for the Review that it always needed. That was non-negotiable for almost everybody right or left . . . And ultimately, the conservatives on the Review supported Barack as president in the final rounds of balloting because he fit that bill far better than the other people who were running. We had all worked with him over the course of a year. And we had all spent countless hours in the presence of Barack, as well as others of our colleagues who were running, in Gannett House [the Law Review offices], and so you get a pretty good sense of people over the course of a year of late nights working on the Review. You know who the rabble-rousers are. You know who the people are who are blinded by their politics. And you know who the people are who, despite their politics, can reach across and be friendly to and make friends with folks who have different views. And Barack very much fell into the latter category.&lt;br /&gt;
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::-Bradford Berenson, #2 lawyer in George W. Bush’s White House, from a Frontline interview [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 19:32, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This seems to call into question the statement in the article about Obama's success being entirely the result of affirmative action. The single citation currently used to support this point consists of one sentence pulled from an article that otherwise casts Obama in a very positive light. Does anyone have another citation in support of the existing language besides that one, or should we discuss the possibility of changing or removing that paragraph? [[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:23, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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At second glance, none of the citations say anything about Obama's HLS achievements being the result of affirmative action. Law students constantly publish articles on subjects that they haven't taken formal courses on. My school doesn't even offer courses dealing with election law, but my friend still published an article about it. The article is missing a logical step between &amp;quot;Obama published an article without taking a class on [science subject] and Constitutional Law&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Obama's article was published because of his race.&amp;quot; Has the writer done any research to justify that inference? [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 00:20, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;lt;1% Correction ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;lt;1% statistic appears to be legitimate, but it is not presented correctly. According to the source currently used for this statistic (http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm), 'The Internet site aljazeera.net published an interview with Ahmad Al Qataani أحمد القطعاني An important Islamic cleric who said: “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;quot;'&lt;br /&gt;
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This link puts those numbers into context and gives us the &amp;lt;1% figure: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/episodes/young-muslim-and-french/info-graphic-muslim-populations/info-graphic-muslim-populations-worldwide-growth/2526/. However, that is &amp;lt;1% of Muslims worldwide per year, not &amp;lt;1% of all Muslims over their lifetime, as our current wording might lead some to believe.&lt;br /&gt;
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We could fix this by changing the sentence in the article from its current form&lt;br /&gt;
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The link I provide my also be of use as an additional source for this. [[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:59, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It also seems like a bad use of statistics. It's useful if you are trying to determine whether a random Muslim converted to Christianity, but is less useful when you're talking about a specific person where lots of other evidence makes a raw percentage meaningless. The percentage of Americans who become President is a lot lower than 1%, but that doesn't mean that Obama didn't become President.[[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 14:33, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: When the inherent fallacy of weak induction is pointed out that is ignored, however the factual correction to the nature of the 1% number probably will not. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 22:40, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There is nothing fallacious about the 1% statistic, or its use here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:47, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: But do you agree that the information I presented here, in so far as it relates to the proper wording of this part of the article, is also not false, but is in fact a more reasonable summary of the truth behind the 1% number? I'm not trying to make any statement about how applicable the figure may or may not be when talking about Obama's own religious status; that's clearly a broader debate for another time. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:49, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I know you're committed to this 1% argument and won't change it, but would you care to address my affirmative action question, above, regarding Harvard Law grading and law review editorial board policies?[[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 00:14, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's name in Arabic? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Should we show his name in Arabic like Wikipedia does for Muslims? Google translator turned this up &amp;quot;باراك حسين أوباما&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama II (Arabic: باراك حسين أوباما)(allegedly born in Honolulu Aug. 4, 1961) &amp;quot; [[User:UnLiberal|UnLiberal]] 15:46, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wikipedia does that for Arabs, not Muslims. Also we should get someone who actually reads Arabic rather than a Google translation, anyone can punch something into an internet translator. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 18:17, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem with your auto-translate is that it has too many vowels.  It's assuming that you typed in a non-Arabic word and it's trying to reproduce it phonetically, instead of just figuring out the original version.  I looked up &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Barack&amp;quot; on Wikipedia to see how they're spelled, Googled up those two words together in Arabic, and found the following full name spelled just like this all over the place:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Ed_Poor Ed Poor’s] recent addition to the list of points arguing that Obama is a Muslim is out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
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Retaining the full content of the second sentence would give readers a better grasp of the context in which he made this statement. Why did you choose to omit this information? And on what basis do you present this as proof that Obama is a Muslim?&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, knowing the context seems to weaken the point’s usefulness in revealing Obama’s religion, because it suggests that the quote was informed by his time living abroad rather than his own personal beliefs. If I spent several years living in Thailand and later commented that the experience showed me that Buddhism was compatible with the modern world, would you think I was a Buddhist?&lt;br /&gt;
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If we insist on continuing to build the case for Obama’s religion, let’s please do so carefully so that we do not omit or obscure any relevant information. If the quote is to remain in the article, I propose that the line be altered to read&lt;br /&gt;
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: The background adds nothing.  Obama's promoting Islam with his statement itself, and there will be many more examples during his term.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:26, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I understand your desire for brevity, I respectfully disagree. I think that a reader's interpretation of the quote could be made very different given the full context, especially considering the heading under which we provide it here. And though I do see how the statement itself could be seen as a promotion of Islam, there are many things which are &amp;quot;compatible&amp;quot; with the modern world that not everyone would want to endorse - homosexuality (even if you disagree with it, there's no question that it is becoming more and more accepted by society every day), war (just look at Africa), and drug use just to name a few. One could correctly state that they are thriving in these times without endorsing them. Lastly, how does the expectation of more examples of his support for Islam have any bearing on the inclusion or exclusion of information regarding this one? --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 20:38, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Conservapedia has [http://www.conservapedia.com/Out_of_context this] to say about quotes taken out of context. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 09:02, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More religion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The intro states that Obama &amp;quot;chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; His first oath was also real. It was cited as being legally binding. It's misleading to call the second oath &amp;quot;real.&amp;quot; Also, did he choose not to use a Bible, or did he just not use one? This is an important point. Anyone care to look into this and change it if necessary? [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 17:19, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Perhaps you think Obama's aides wouldn't let him use the Bible for his real, private oath???  Please.  Obama could have easily used a Bible ... if he wanted to.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:01, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You've ignored my first point, which is that the first oath was also real, valid and legally binding. It's misleading and inaccurate to distinguish the second oath as &amp;quot;real,&amp;quot; when the first one was equally so. But as to my second point, it's this kind of thing that prevents Conservapedia from becoming truly encyclopedic; writers are choosing to rely on their own logical deductions instead of verifiable sources. The sentence says Obama &amp;quot;chose not use&amp;quot; a Bible. The point is you don't know he chose not to use one. Maybe Roberts said they didn't need one. Maybe Obama didn't want to use one. Maybe the only Bible available was a Klingon translation. Who knows? But this article confidently states that he &amp;quot;chose not to&amp;quot; use a Bible without anything to back up that statement. This will never be &amp;quot;The Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot; if this kind of content is permitted. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 11:46, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;Dantes&amp;quot;, your rant is incoherent.  There's no disputing that Obama &amp;quot;chose not to use&amp;quot; a Bible for his real, private oath.  Note, by the way, that if the first oath was &amp;quot;real, valid and legally binding,&amp;quot; then there would not have been a second oath.  No kidding.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:44, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I agree with ASchlafly, it's not as if a Bible would have been hard to find, or as if the second oath was so urgent that there was no time to find one. And why is a second oath needed if the first one was 'real, valid and legally binding'? I doubt he did it for his own amusement: &amp;quot;Hey guys, that was fun, let's do it again!&amp;quot; [[User:ETrundel|ETrundel]] 14:13, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: But that isn't the point. And Aschlafly, I'm sorry you couldn't understand my suggestion. But the fact that you don't like it doesn't make it a rant. I'll explain again, in simpler terms:&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::3) However, there is nothing to support the view that he &amp;quot;chose not to.&amp;quot; There's no extant source to back this up&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::It doesn't matter if that is the only logical explanation. Without any proof, it's just speculation, regardless of how likely it is. Unless someone can supply a reputable source that says Obama chose not to use a bible, this is an assumption. That makes it biased. Saying &amp;quot;there's no disputing&amp;quot; something isn't the same as proving it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: As to the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; oath, basic research indicates it was done out of a &amp;quot;superabundance of caution,&amp;quot; not because it was legally necessary. See this article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJKZrJDhy6g52PZNb7phfFmsQVow A &amp;quot;seeker of truth&amp;quot; would know this, or at least try to find out. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 14:52, 12 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama is likely the first Muslim President ==&lt;br /&gt;
Found yet another example. Muslim helps Obama get into Harvard. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''&amp;quot;It was former Malcom X lawyer and New York City mayoral candidate Percy Sutton who inadvertently revealed how Obama could even afford to get into Harvard. In a New York television show entitled “Inside City Hall”, Sutton admitted that orthodox Muslim, Black Nationalist, and Black Panther mentor Dr. Khalid al-Mansour personally asked Sutton to help Obama get into Harvard.&amp;quot;'' [http://blogs.newberlinnow.com/speaking_the_truth/default.aspx Barack Obama Couldn't Pass a Background Investigation In His Own Administration] --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 23:49, 3 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blogs are nice. But if you're going to use one as a source for this article, I would prefer they disclose their own sources so that those sources can be checked. Unfortunately, there was not a single link in the entire post. Maybe an actual video clip of the interview, or a coverage of the story by a news organization? --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 01:00, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dear comrad, you have the peoples names, you have the name of the show, are you mad it is not sourced further for you?-[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 01:13, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not mad, though I am a little disappointed that not everyone here seems interested in pushing for greater quality. We are an internet encyclopedia, and as such are expected to provide credible outside sources for all our material. In any case, I took your advice and went looking for additional sources and found  [http://mediamatters.org/items/200809080018 this coverage] as well as [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/mansourian_candidate.htm this post]. Note that, although both of these are internet blogs, they both provide material in the form of outside links to back up their discussion; the latter even does this with a video of the interview. Yes, the first one is from Media Matters, but it contains some good follow-up. If you're really interested in presenting the truth, more information always helps, even if it means having to dig around and analyze all of it before you figure out what exactly what the truth is. I hope these prove useful. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:23, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: SStaples, now that you've overcome your initial denial and confirmed the accuracy of the statement, do yourself a favor and open your own mind further.  Start recognizing that over half of what you see on television and learned in school is liberal deceit.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:05, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, with respect, I never denied the accuracy of Jpatt's quotation. I merely wanted a better source so that both it and this article as a whole would be better supported. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:32, 5 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama's Tax Cut Claims During the Campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to add this text right before the &amp;quot;Campaign financing&amp;quot; secion:&lt;br /&gt;
:During the campaign Obama repeatedly claimed he would “cut taxes for no less than 95% of &amp;quot;working families.&amp;quot;”. The Wall Street Journal asked, “how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In truth, Obama was calling government handouts “tax credits” and counting those as tax cuts. The WSJ wondered why McCain “allowed Mr. Obama's 95% illusion to go unanswered”. [[User:Sjay|Sjay]] 19:32, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point.  I just unlocked the page for you to insert info as you think best.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:48, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama &amp;amp; Che Guevara / Fidel Castro etc==&lt;br /&gt;
I was surprised this page had such little about all the connections out there. Thus I have added the fact that his poster is taken to resemble Jim Fitzpatricks Che poster. Also during the campaign his workers were found with Cuban flags bearing the face of Marxist &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; (puke) [[Che Guevara]]. I added this fact as well with a ref. thanks and Cuba Libre ! (free Cuba from Commie-nism) [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 20:18, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Can an admin possibly help me add some images to the page. I want to add [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8Mo9wgzZpRk/SFLC2eJtvXI/AAAAAAAAA8I/zV0AwV3hbVM/s400/obamachehouston2__oPt.jpg This one] of Obamas campaign HQ, with a Cuban Che flag. just google it for more info. Someone also needs to add [http://ecarson.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/im000541.jpg this brilliant image] to the article, showing all of Obamas Commie pals. Story behind it [http://ecarson.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/communist-obama-display/ here]. Lastly I want to add [http://www.virtuousplanet.com/shops/userimages/00003/00000000008/section/00000000000000061879.png this image] I made to his political view section. thanks and Viva Conservatism! [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 20:24, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Abandoned ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is starting to look like nothing more than an abandoned campaign ad. [[User:Everett3|Everett3]] 00:05, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: please be more specific? [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:22, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Page should be unlocked==&lt;br /&gt;
Right now it seems that registered users can't edit the article. Why is that? How do we expect to compete with the Communists at Wikipedia, if we ham string some of our best talent. Things are happening everyday, and our nation irks closer to disaster and Marxist takeover. This article should be our best one, and our most updated. Come on fellas, this is a war of ideas. [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:30, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The reason that it is locked is comments like yours.  Communists at Wikipedia?  That is so over the top, it rounds the bend and meets up with the liberals wacky comments, PaulRevere.  I will be happy to unlock it for you, so long as you read what it says at the bottom of the edit screen: ''&amp;quot;If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;'' --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: With all due respect TK, I disagree on Wikipedia being communist infiltrated in many ways. Just read their Obama article compared to the one here. As for sources and added info, there is tons of good info at [http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289 this article] that I wanted to add. Basically Obama should be described right off the bat as a MARXIST, no if ands or butts about it. [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:47, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Remember encyclopedia's do not use speculation or conjecture. While you and I might agree as to the plausibility of of many of the items in the article, the author's opinion, absent facts, is just that; the opinion of the author.  I have unlocked the article. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Please unlock the article, many recent disasters are missing from it. Thanks &amp;amp; Viva America ! [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:25, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Age template==&lt;br /&gt;
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I mentally calculated his age wrong, which is embarrassing for a math tutor! Anyway, I added an {{tl|age}} template, so on August 4th he'll age one year. And the year after that another, and so on. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:50, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ha ha.  You're a genius, Ed!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:54, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not to boast, but the [[Template:Age]] which I created over at Wikipedia is in over 50,000 articles. It's hard to find a bio there which doesn't use it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:00, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Referring to America in 3rd person? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.&amp;quot;- this is 1st person plural, surely? Sorry to nit pick, but it ''is'' on the front page after all. [[User:WillD|WillD]] 17:27, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Damned if you do, damned if you don't ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the subject of his American flag lapel pin, the &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section says that he ceased wearing one because it &amp;quot;presumably&amp;quot; would have hurt his relations with anti-military campaign donors. Then he starts to wear it again, and this is explained as being &amp;quot;likely&amp;quot; to do with political pandering. It sounds as if the author is determined to view every action Obama takes in a negative light. --[[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 10:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Needed updates for Turkey speech, &amp;quot;no longer Christian&amp;quot;, etc. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't have editing power for this article, but it'd be great if someone can add:&lt;br /&gt;
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*update on Obama's &amp;quot;no longer a Christian nation&amp;quot; comments. [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=67735]&lt;br /&gt;
*confirming that the &amp;quot;speech in muslim capitol in first 100 days&amp;quot; prediction came true (Turkey)&lt;br /&gt;
*any other pertinent facts from his recent speech in Turkey, especially the &amp;quot;Islam is not the enemy&amp;quot; type of content.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Lots of significant events that flesh out his perspective and stance in recent weeks...&lt;br /&gt;
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: Go ahead, David.  I just unlocked it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:14, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Interesting.... so Obama said in Turkey, and I quote, &amp;quot;The United States has been '''enriched by Muslim Americans'''. Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country. I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot; [[User:Pandeism|Pandeism]] 22:36, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::What's also interesting is where you chose to add your emphasis. Why not read it as: &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. '''Many other Americans''' have Muslims in their family, or '''have lived in a Muslim-majority country'''. I know, because '''I am one of them'''&amp;quot;? --[[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 18:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I have respect for Muslims and for Islam, but this hardly makes me non-Christian. I am a Jewish convert to Christianity. I wish we could stop branding Obama as non-Christian. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::If we must criticize him, let's focus on describing his policies and the effects they have had or are likely to have. He is primarily a politician; he is not a religious leader. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:48, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Ed, you make a valid point, but many (including myself, historians, reporters and voters) would disagree.  A president's religious beliefs are significant.  When a president ''lies'' about those beliefs, then the significance is amplified. Do you think Obama told the truth when he campaigned as a Christian?  I don't, and that raises valid questions about what the truth really is that Obama was lying about.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Ed, you suggest focusing only on Obama's policies, but unfortunately policies are often not known in time to object to them.  Obama quickly sent a secret letter to Russia upon becoming president, and the public had no opportunity to object.  Hitler did not publicize his policies to give people an early opportunity to object.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:41, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes he did, most of his polices were clearly laid out in Mein Kampf, which was published before he came to power --[[User:LPowell|LPowell]] 20:21, 20 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*That's really ludicrous.  A small, hardly read tome, little noticed or read, written by a fringe paper hanger,  is hardly (in any era) publicizing something. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:32, 20 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not think that your above description can be accurately applied to Mein Kampf. It consists of two volumes and a total of twenty seven chapters. Granted its popularity grew with its authors profile but it had already achieved 850,000 sales by 1933, the year in which Hitler rose to power. In any case Hitler can hardly be accused of trying to suppress circulation of the book, as is evidenced by the German government’s purchase and distribution of six million copies in the following nine year period. &lt;br /&gt;
In Mein Kampf Hitler sets out his ambitions, including the establishment of a new world order, expanding German territories in the east and exterminating the Jewish people. I must admit that I have not read Audacity of Hope, but would be extremely surprised to discover that it contained similar content. As such think it is a huge leap to try to draw parallels between the two leaders. --[[User:LPowell|LPowell]] 18:18, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Allegedly Born in Honolulu?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The first sentence says he was '''allegedly''' born in Honolulu, except one of the references linking to this statement is a '''confirmation''' from state officials that he was born in Honolulu.  And not to mention he's released his birth certificate.  I think it is dishonest to have the word 'allegedly' here.  I'm taking it out unless anyone objects. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 08:38, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok I changed it and it was instantly reverted back.  It is a '''fact''' that Obama was born in Honolulu verified by many independent sources.  Encyclopedias report '''facts''' not unproven allegations.  I am reverting it back. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:25, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Argument for Obama being a Muslim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we have an honest discussion about this section.  There may be something to it, but a lot of the bullets are a bit absurd.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them.&amp;quot;[16]&lt;br /&gt;
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I interpret this as he '''lived''' in a Muslim country which is true.  This doesn't make him Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama's background, education, and outlook are Muslim, and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.[17][18]&lt;br /&gt;
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This is misleading to say the least.  Random statistics have no place in an encyclopedia.  Does this 1% figure include all the Muslims in the middle east who do not convert to Christianity, it likely does and therefore has nothing to do with Obama who is an educated US citizen.  -[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama recently mentioned his religion as &amp;quot;my Muslim faith.&amp;quot;[21]&lt;br /&gt;
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If you watch the video, it's clearly out of context.  He said &amp;quot;John Mccain has not talked about my Muslim faith&amp;quot;.  Meaning John Mccain had not himself accused Obama of being Muslim.  If you watch a few seconds past this on the video he explains this.&lt;br /&gt;
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* He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;[22]&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, it probably is &amp;quot;compatible with the modern world&amp;quot;.  Why is this evidence he is Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on but I am getting tired of this.  I'm not saying get rid of this section, but the claims should be factually correct and not be based on sweeping generalizations.  Furthermore, why is this the first section in the article?  Usually in an encyclopedia, the biographical content comes first.  Early life and legal career and that stuff.  And usually encyclopedia articles not the place for pushing your particular beliefs or rumor about somebody.  I welcome any comments.  --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Paul, you have free will to reject that 2+2=4 too.  I'm not going to spend my morning trying to convince you.  [[Obama]] lied when he campaigned as a Christian.  It may be years before you admit that to yourself, or you may never admit it, or you may admit it but actually like the [[deceit]].  Suit yourself, but the evidence is overwhelming.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:36, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you never addressed my concern about the ordering of the article I'll assume your in agreement.  Biographical information first and then other issues.  By the way, perhaps Obama lied about being a Christian, but if he did, its much more likely he's an Atheist than a Muslim.   -[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:54, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You assume wrong.  Don't think that you're going to downplay the truth by burying it later in an entry.&lt;br /&gt;
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: As to your theory, it just doesn't fit the evidence.  Atheists having Obama's upbringing are virtually non-existent, and atheists' intellectual style is very different from Obama's.  Feel free to start a different entry developing your theory, because it will become apparent quickly how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:11, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's not a truth, it's your theory that he is a Muslim, just as it is my theory that he is an Atheist.  Obama says he is Christian, and who is to say otherwise?  A person's faith is entirely a personal thing, you can never say for certain what he believes in, you have to go with what he has said in public, namely that he is Christian.  Whether he might secretly be Muslim or Atheist is inconsequential, they are both theories, and neither theory belongs in an encyclopedia (which is fact based), end of story. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:31, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And your claim that &amp;quot;Atheists having Obama's upbringing are virtually non-existent&amp;quot; is another sweeping generalization.  Please tell me how that proves that he is a Muslim (or not an Atheist), because it's completely absurd&lt;br /&gt;
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: By the way, Obama's father was an Atheist.  I suspect that most people retain the religion (or lack thereof) of their parents.  But either way, I'm not trying to make the case that he's an Atheist (or that he's not a Muslim).  My point is that he says he's a Christian so anything else is just a theory which has no place in an encyclopedia article (unless this is not really an encyclopedia, but just a forum for pushing your conservative ideology). --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:40, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dog  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we want to add anything about the Obamas' new dog (Portugese water dog)? --[[User:RobertT|RobertT]] 11:19, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion of [[User:Clintville]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe these have been discussed on this talk page before, and settled after input from [[User:Aschlafly]]. In particular, I think it has been exposed that Snopes has been bit gullible in the past when it comes to liberal deceit. As far as the other two items go, though they are not convincing in a vacuum, we must consider them in context of all the other evidence. See the two or three talk page sections above this one, or the talk archives, for more discussion on this. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 01:10, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kenya is not a muslim country. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CIA World Fact Book, Kenya is 78% Christian.&lt;br /&gt;
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So I have deleted the claim that Kenya is a predominantly muslim country. [[User:DanielVaccle|DanielVaccle]] 09:52, 25 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Middle Name in title ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that Hussein is in the title for this article (Barack Hussein Obama). This is not done for any president who doesn't regularly use his middle name (Obama doesn't use Hussein anywhere). Can we either a)take Hussein out of the title of b)add the middle name of every US president. while his middle name i on of the many proofs he is a Muslim, that goes in the article, not in the title.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's the name he was sworn in under.  He's not ashamed of his middle name, why are you? Fair and balanced is a news organization motto, adding a middle name to each President is not a requirement here. Though nobody is stopping you from additions.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:19, 10 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Every other president was sworn in using his middle name and it isn't in there title. I'm not ashamed of his middle name, that is an unfair statement portaying me as a liberal. I will take you up on that challange and add middle names to every president, because we can't single Obama out in the title, it is in the article we go for the kill. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I take that back, it seems as editing the title of an article is harder than it seems. Can anyone help me. {{Unsigned|Backstop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No other President has gone to such lengths to obscure/hide their background and connections, either.  That is why the middle name is used. If you try making the kind of changes you are talking about, we will simply wish you Godspeed, and say goodbye, so I don't suggest it. Also, use the signature button above, when editing, on all posts, please.  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:12, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Obama uses his full name.  Why does that bother you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:12, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, i do believe Obama is a Muslim, based partly on the middle name, but mostly on other proofs. However, there is a time and place for proofs, and the title isn't one of tem, I'm just asking about a minor inconsistency in the titles of articles (the Presidents), why it is there and what is planned to be done about it. i am in no way offended by hiss middle name, that is an unfair comment portraying me as a liberal. &lt;br /&gt;
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TK, we have had presidents smuggle illegal goods out of Italy (Jefferson, who also was reported to have had an affair with his slave that produced a cild), we've had a president who was never married and lived with a male roommate (Buchanan), while Obama ranks right up there, the middle name has nothing to do with it. I respectfuly ask TK to make that connection please.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I saw TK told me I was a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot;. not quite hip with the lingo, can you explain what that means.--[[User:Backstop|Backstop]] 18:24, 13 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Aschlafly asked you above: &amp;quot;Obama uses his full name. Why does that bother you?&amp;quot; Now, it is apparent you are not here to help, but rather to pursue your own agenda.  We are not striving here for NPOV, but rather the facts. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:40, 13 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arguments for Obama being a Muslim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While there is enough proof to convince me Obama is a Muslim in the article, but some of these proofs are untrue or misused:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama is saying that he is a person who has had &amp;quot;Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country&amp;quot; such as his father and Indonesia. not that he is one of those Muslims. That is my interpetation of this statement.''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''I think that lots of things can be compatible with the modern world (like my Mac!) but does that make me a follower of the Mac necesarily?'' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class Arabic accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: Allah is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''I think that many Christian prayers are beautiful, and I'm Jewish!''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[32] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.[33]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Fareed Zakaria is my favorite author and journalist. I've read his book many times and I'm still not Muslim''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;[38] &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;[39]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Similar things happened for Obama with Hispanics, and I think we all agree Obama is not Hispanic. Maybe Muslims were excited to finaly have a president with a Muslim backround after 8 years of Bush, who they didn't like at all.''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Encyclopedic Setup? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering if it would be ok to try to re-format this on my talk page to include all the same information in a more encyclopedic manner, because...this article isnt very good right now (no offense intended to the writers) [[User:DerekSmalls|DerekSmalls]] 21:42, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Create a page: User:DerekSmalls/Obama draft and that would be fine. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:12, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Derek, forget-about-it if you think you're going to dilute the entry with Wikipedia-style [[placement bias]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:22, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::ok, I'll Try.  Before I start, if i make such an article and you deem it full of placement bias, will I suffer negative side affects?  Because I would rather avoid nefativityt period.  If that makes any sense[[User:DerekSmalls|DerekSmalls]] 18:50, 25 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;effects&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;affects&amp;quot;.  We are logical here.  If your proposed substitute is separate from the entry and does not vandalize it, and is not vulgar or otherwise obviously inappropriate, then there will be no negative side effects.  So feel free to make encyclopedic suggestions.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:48, 25 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggest we delete Muslim accusation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest we delete the section claiming President Obgama to be a muslim as this has already been proven to be false. {{unsigned|Michaelkirschner}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Likely&amp;quot; doesn't suggest positively a Muslim. I am interested in your proof that has yet to be released to the public. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 17:54, 26 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Michelle was Obama's second marriage?==&lt;br /&gt;
Photo of Barack from 1980 at Occidental College with a wedding ring. [http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-me-oxyobama27-2009may27,0,4992416.photogallery?index=3]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:22, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Seconded. Either add it here, and/or to Michelle Obama's page. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Obama's ring as pictured above shows something wider in the center than a normal wedding band, which means he's just got a ring on that he liked at the time.  It's a good pic from his college days, but not evidence he was married in 1980.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 20:54, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two proposals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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1) I think the contents needs to be raised up the page. Intro paragraphs, contents, muslim section, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama clearly exhibited his elitism on his May 5, 2009 limousine trip to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington, VA.&amp;lt;re.f&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAvq12Sa3VE&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Intended to showcase a connection to the ways of common Americans, Obama instead struggled to compose his order, finally settling on a cheeseburger with fancy Grey Poupon french mustard. This combination is rare among those who frequent burger joints in the United States, demonstrating Obama's lack of familiarity with U. S. culture and lack of American upbringing. Naturally, the liberal media abetted Obama by covering this up during their doting coverage &amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/05/msnbc-hides-obamas-dijon-mustard.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, in which he purchased burgers for liberal reporters.&amp;lt;r.ef&amp;gt;http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/05/05/barack-and-joe-go-to-white-castle-%E2%80%A6-i-mean-ray%E2%80%99s-hell-burger/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Trip to Canada ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's first foreign trip as President of the United States occured yesterday, to Canada.&lt;br /&gt;
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Most telling, he declared &amp;quot;I love this country [Canada]&amp;quot; - has he ever even uttered such words about America?&lt;br /&gt;
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: *sigh* [http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/obama-loves-america-no-really/ yes, yes he has] --[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 17:40, 20 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Demanding Major Change ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm not well educated on Obama enough to write an article on him, and even if I did I would not know where to start, but come on! Someone step up to the plate and correct this article. We atleast need a rewrite that presents a case for him being a christian. It can include all the Rev. Wright stuff you want, but if Conservapedia wants to become &amp;quot;The trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot; it has to convey both sides.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a conservapedian, I don't like where this site is going. When writing articles, we can have conservative viewpoints, just not conservative crusades.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It's remarkable how people who spell Christian with a small &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; want to insist that Obama is somehow a Christian.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 5 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Mr. Schlafly, how that makes someone less christian then somebody else is beyond me.  Petty remarks like that does not help conservapedia's image at all[[User:Skwisgaar|Skwisgaar]] 11:52, 18 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Reminiscent of those who assert the title of catholic with a small c, which in fact means something wholly other than a Catholic (i.e., a Roman Catholic) with a large C. (All Christians are in fact catholic with a small c if I understand it's fairly broad meaning.) --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 23:42, 5 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't think you can &amp;quot;demand&amp;quot; anything here. This is not a place where you can get what you want with the well-worn liberal tactic of stamping your feet and throwing a tantrum.&lt;br /&gt;
: If you have proof that Obama is a Christian, then let us see it. As far as I can tell, he is completely uninterested in Christian fellowship of any kind, which to me is very telling.&lt;br /&gt;
: It is easy to talk the talk. As the Lord himself said:&lt;br /&gt;
: '''Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'''' (Matthew 7:22-23)&lt;br /&gt;
: When and if Barack Hussein Obama shows some evidence of having been washed clean in the blood of Christ, then we can talk. I'm not holding my breath. --[[User:DavidS|DavidS]] 08:34, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::DeanS, you have proof, it's been shown to you multiple times. All the people seem to be interested here is raising a conspiracy theory. They are so set in their ways that arguing against them will yield no results. That's the whole thing about conspiracy theorists: it doesn't matter what proof you show or how complete it is, they will find some hole, real or imagined, and fill it in with whatever belief they hold to actually add strength to their theories. A quick review of the page reveals 3 telling conspiracy theories that are held in belief by the people who hold power on this website: 1) That Obama is a Muslim (he isn't) 2) That Obama wasn't born in Hawaii (He was), and 3) That the majority of Obama's campaign contributions came from anonymous donors (they didn't). That's why this page has been locked from editing, because it has become a war zone and is unlikely to change if it was unlocked. The only solution at this point is to try and gleam what facts you can from this article, and do your own independent research for more facts concerning Obama. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 09:14, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: First of all, I'm David, not Dean. Secondly, Obama certainly doesn't ''act'' like any sort of Christian I care to know: he supports [[abortion]], he is a radical [[socialist]] (possibly a [[Communist]]), and he tells falsehoods. I don't know if he is a Muslim or not, but it seems quite likely, and the page has a lot of evidence showing that he is. --[[User:DavidS|DavidS]] 11:44, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::First, my apologies on the name. Secondly, I'm not claiming that Obama is a good Christian, just that he most certainly is not Muslim. The evidence on this page, many of which are blatant falsehoods, are hardly conclusive proof of anything. I have no doubt that if I held any user here under the same scrutiny that Obama has, I could gather enough &amp;quot;evidence&amp;quot; to make a case that they are any religion I choose them to be. Thirdly, just because he may not be the type of christian you want to know doesn't make him not christian. There are many Christians that I [[Ku Klux Klan|don't care to know]]. Does that make them not Christian?--[[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 12:13, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Islam is a religion trained to not be noticed, it encourages Muslims to remain hidden, any evidence that Obama isn't Muslim is denied by the one fact that Islam is a religion designed to remain hidden until the moment is right to strike. Recent &amp;quot;negotiations&amp;quot; with the Middle East prove this! --[[User:Deadpool]] (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Even if he is a muslim ,(which i am sure he is not), how does that change anything. Are you suggesting that everyone who is muslim is an amoral terrorist with an agenda to kill all christians and destroy our family values? Are you suggesting that every single muslim follows the tenets unfailingly? Even the most devoted christians i have met follow all of the tenets. A person is a person, religion may play a part in their every day life, but the amount of people willing to die or kill for it is very few.  I met the now-president myself once.  He was a good man who loved his family and his country, more so than many people I have met, liberals AND conservatives. Even though I voted for McCain, he seemed like a good candidate for president. [[User:Skwisgaar|Skwisgaar]] 11:51, 18 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's Atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know it is a popular view on this site that Obama is a Muslim, but has anyone considered the possibility that his apparent lack of religious devotion indicates instead that he is an atheist? In an article about Obama on mensvogue.com, it is noted that &amp;quot;Though Obama had long been skeptical of organized religion, he gradually came to embrace it &amp;quot;as a choice, not an epiphany.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mensvogue.com/business/politics/feature/articles/2006/09/11/barack_obama&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is frequently observed on Conservapedia that his claims of religious activity may be self-serving; could they not be an attempt to hide his atheism instead of his Islamic beliefs? After all, Ron Reagan, Jr. once remarked that nobody ever elects atheists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, Conservapedia has also pointed out on numerous occasions that atheists are strongly inclined to dislike America. Is it also not possible that Obama's pro-Islamic behavior is not a series of Freudian slips, but rather a manifestation of his liberal dislike for America?&lt;br /&gt;
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Just some interesting points to consider. Perhaps we could open this up for discussion. --[[User:Economist|Economist]] 18:30, 6 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama Arab-American ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article should, at some point, actually say that Obama is African-American, making him the first black president.  If you really want to leave room for speculation about Warren G. Harding's ancestry, you could write &amp;quot;first openly black president&amp;quot; or something.  But Obama's blackness is clearly a large part of his personal and political identity, and is probably going to be remembered as one of the most historically significant aspects of this election.  An article on Barack Obama should contain a direct statement of this information, period.&lt;br /&gt;
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The editors should also consider putting that information in the first paragraph.  I understand that there is no established rule about the ordering of information in a Conservapedia article.  However, an uneducated reader looking at this article would learn how long his campaign was before learning that he is the first black president, which doesn't make much sense to me. [[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 16:20, 9 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is much distortion in the media about Obama being African-American. '''Obama is actually Arab-American''', and I agree that this page should reflect his race.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro).  --[[User:Cwcopela|Cwcopela]] 14:11, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Does it really matter? It's not the technicalities that define what race Americans perceive Obama as - He looks more black, than white and arabic and that's how people will perceive him - They won't perceive him as another rich religious white guy or as an arab because of technicalities like that. --[[User:Atheuz|Atheuz]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:*So, perceptions matter above facts? That is typical of [[liberal]] thinking, you know. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:06, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wait, by your own admission Obama is half-Caucasian. Shouldn't we say &amp;quot;first president with significantly ethnic roots&amp;quot; or something (not as politically correct, of course)? [[User:T2master|T2master]] 19:30, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Small comments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello. Would it be appropriate to create a &amp;quot;family&amp;quot; section in this biography, it seems rather lacking on this point? For the rest it seems very informative, but rather cluttered. Would it be more logical to use a chronological build-up for this biography, such as placing the parts relating to his presidency more to the end of the biography, and his earlier endeavors to the front? Perhaps it would help if the contents table was moved up, at least to end up higher than the first muslim president bit? Let's hope I'm not asking any all-too-stupid questions! ;-) Regards, [[User:AVanbeek|AVanbeek]] 22:51, 12 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't see any of your suggestions as an improvement.  Obama's presidential ambition predates the other items you mention, and his personal beliefs are the most significant.  Encylopedias, like newspapers, prioritize presentation based on significance.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:59, 12 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Shall I go ahead then, and erase &amp;quot;Family&amp;quot; Sections on George W. Bush and McCain's articles? Their great accomplishments surely predate those insignificant sections. [[User:AMurdoc|AMurdoc]] 13:29, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Why not go ahead and make some positive contributions to this encyclopaedia by creating wanted articles, rather than attempting to be satirical? [[User:MikeSalter|MikeSalter]] 14:18, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd also note that Michelle is refered to by her maiden name in the info box. Checking the previous Presidents, their wives are referenced in First Last or First Maiden Last (Laura Bush and Hillary Rodham Clinton). Any reason not to have Michelle Obama or Michelle Robinson Obama? Is there some dispute about her legal name? As her name has changed in the popular view and the law, this information would appear to be just wrong. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Lincoln's Bible? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fox News is reporting that Obama will use the Lincoln Bible to be sworn in &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2008/12/23/obama-sworn-using-lincoln-bible/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. I think it's fairly safe to say that it will not be a koran. I also think it is safe to say that this is exactly the kind of trickery a manchurian muslim would use. Is it worth a mention in the &amp;quot;likely muslim&amp;quot; section?&lt;br /&gt;
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: I agree, it is safe to say it will not be a Koran. I think i'ts also safe to say this is exactly the kind of &amp;quot;trickery&amp;quot; a Christian would use. Is it worth a mention in the &amp;quot;likely Christian&amp;quot; section? oh wait... [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 11:59, 15 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: So Obama is damned if he does use a Bible, and damned if he doesn't.  Seems a bit unreasonable.  None of those other candidates were ever accused of being &amp;quot;Manchurian Muslims&amp;quot; just because they DID use a Bible to get sworn in.  Then again, none of those other candidates had brown skin and a funny name, right? [[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 12:55, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Typical [[liberal]] [[race baiting]]... How about you come up with evidence rather than allegations? [[User:CWood|CWood]] 16:47, 18 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::None of the other candidates hid from questions about their past, it's Obama's own fault. Nobody ever said his name was funny except Obama. The brown skin comment is over the top racist ploy. You know very well that there are more respected, patriotic, qualified 'brown skin' people that are deserving of presidency, Obama isn't one of them. FYI- slanderous allegations are deserving of a permanent block here. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 13:03, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::How about slanderous allegations that a man is lying to the country about his religion?  Do those count?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm not accusing anyone of racism per se.  I'm just pointing out that no other presidential candidate has ever had to prove to the country that he is not a Muslim.  And let's be honest - that's because all the other presidential candidates have been white guys named George or Bill or Ron or Jimmy, and this one is a black guy named Barack.  If people WANT to believe he's a Muslim (the authors of this article clearly do) it's easier to do so.  If you can't see the connection between his race/name and the popularity of the belief that he is a Muslim, you're not looking hard enough.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Anyway, this is all a moot point.  He's not a Muslim.  As time goes by after Obama takes office, this page will look increasingly loony.  I guess if Obama really turns out to be an Al-Qaeda sleeper agent poised to sabotage the United States in a plot straight out of a Tom Clancy novel, I will be the one looking loony.  But I think I'll take that chance.[[User:Cb201|Cb201]] 17:55, 16 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Hussein Obama (born in Honolulu,[1][2][3] August 4, 1961) served as a first-term Democratic Senator from Illinois (2004-2008) and then, along with his running mate Senator Joseph Biden, won the presidential election[4] after twenty-three months of campaigning, raising an unprecedented $750 million and spending over $700 million of it,[5]. Post-election, Obama indicated that he would make an unprecedented speech within his first 100 days from a Muslim capital.[6]  (7][8]  &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has espoused the idea of &amp;quot;spreading the wealth,&amp;quot;[10] &lt;br /&gt;
in other words raising the tax rates on business and the wealthy   in order to redistribute their income to low income individuals, many of whom don't currently pay income taxes.[11] His health care plan requires employers to purchase health care or pay a fine and will require many into a single payer system.[12] To announce his trip to Berlin in July 2008, Obama used posters which show a marked similarity to posters of others.[13] During Obama's youth in Hawaii, he developed a strong, almost Father/Son relationship with Frank Marshall Davis.14]&lt;br /&gt;
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The claim that Fareed Zakaria's book ''The Post-American World'' &amp;quot;is written from a Muslim point-of-view&amp;quot; is not supported by the reference, [35]. [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 15:41, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ah yes, Fareed Zakaria is actually a Jewish name, written from a Juda perspective. Let's get serious ok? --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 15:53, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: The ''Village Voice'' article that was referenced describes Zakaria as a secular Muslim, but it doesn't mention the book at all.  Do you not think it's possible for someone to write a book on a secular topic without injecting his religious point of view? [[User:Dadsnagem2|Dadsnagem2]] 16:20, 19 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Cleary Obama has a Muslim background but is not a Muslim. Some reference to Muslim allegations, rumors and conspiracy theories might be appropriate but Obama is not a Muslim. You people are making yourself look silly beyond belief.&lt;br /&gt;
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: So smarty pants, prove he is no longer Muslim. Also, what does the word 'likely' mean to you?--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:44, 22 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Picture==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AC776AB92D53D08B124F57F6B9B6C2.jpg‎]] Here's a picture of our plotting leader. Too sinister? --[[User:StevenM|Ṣ₮ёVeN]] 09:41, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Interesting, Steven.  But where did you get it from?  The uploads should reflect the source and claim of ability to use it, unless before 1923 (in which everything is public domain).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh yes. sorry, i got it from the msn.com do i need promission to take photos from there? --[[User:StevenM|Ṣ₮ёVeN]] 14:03, 19 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama/Muslim Support ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the May be a Muslim section, it says that he had an increased support of Muslim voters.  How does this prove he is Muslim? While this should be kept, It should be moved to another  section.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Nation of Islam's annual convention in a Chicago suburb, a white T-shirt with an image of Obama between Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr. sold for $10. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The Muslim community supports their Muslims. MLK just thrown into the mix for his iconic black image. [http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jGXLhxPilGxuVttW5L588O-y4uAAD96LKH200]&lt;br /&gt;
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== I know we lost a week... ==&lt;br /&gt;
But we can't stay in some alternate universe where G.W.Bush is still president forever, especially if this article is going to link to the front page. We need to update this article to show that Obama is now president. I would do so, but its locked. As it has been. For quite some time. --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 23:57, 27 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Low Res Pic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why is the leading picture of Obama such a low resolution version? It looks crappy when stretched [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:20, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: That's the only picture we could get from the White House Web site. It certainly surprises me, because I would have thought that they would have a very high-resolution picture of...&amp;quot;Him.&amp;quot; We might try the White House site again to see whether &amp;quot;He&amp;quot; has corrected this&amp;amp;mdash;er&amp;amp;mdash;oversight.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:26, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Wikipedia found one (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Official_portrait_of_Barack_Obama.jpg) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:29, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::(I could have sworn i edited this already, did we loose some more from the database?) The orginal high resolution image can be obtained from the change.gov site; http://change.gov/page/-/officialportrait.jpg . Updating to this version should fix all the scaling artefacts --[[User:SCarter|SCarter]] 22:10, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Second swearing in ceremony? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised that this isn't even mentioned in the article, but when Obama retook the Oath he DIDN'T USE A BIBLE. In fact, there was no video recording of the session and the picture taken only showed him from the chest up. This is profound evidence of being Unchristian at the very least. Since we can't see his left hand during the ceremony, it could be on anything ... dare I say, the Koran?? (source http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/01/21/obama-takes-oath-office/)  [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 08:40, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I consider swearing on the Bible to be un-Christian, because of Matthew 5:34-37, where swearing on anything is expressly forbidden by Jesus.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:48, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, the second swearing-in ceremony was hardly &amp;quot;private.&amp;quot;  There were a number of reporters present.  Even if it were private, the first ceremony is the one that is constitutionally binding.  In any case, the allegation in the main article needs a citation.  There are plenty out there, so get to it!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rejects ID, Pushes Evolution (Over Christianity!?) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This really needs to be a section in the mainspace. Someone unlock or please add a section mentioning the following:&lt;br /&gt;
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''Rejects ID''&lt;br /&gt;
From the responses to a Q&amp;amp;A sent out by Nature: Do you believe that evolution by means of natural selection is a sufficient explanation for the variety and complexity of life on Earth? Should intelligent design, or some derivative thereof, be taught in science class in public schools?&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama: I believe in evolution, and I support the strong consensus of the scientific community that evolution is scientifically validated. I do not believe it is helpful to our students to cloud discussions of science with non-scientific theories like intelligent design that are not subject to experimental scrutiny. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/in-obamas-own-words/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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''Pushes Evolution Over Christianity''&lt;br /&gt;
Remnick, who at this point could be considered the President of the United States of Magazines, forced Obama to address the topic of religion. &amp;quot;It's not 'faith' if you are absolutely certain,&amp;quot; Obama said, noting that he didn't believe his lack of &amp;quot;faith&amp;quot; would hurt him a national election. &amp;quot;Evolution is more grounded in my experience than angels.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/magazines/barack_obama_i_inhaled_that_was_the_point_46068.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Wow. [[User:CherylE|CherylE]] 10:17, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Allegedly born in Honolulu ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does it still say he was allegedly born in Honolulu? Later on in the page it says the it was proven his birth certificate is genuine. [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:We merely state that FactCheck.org believed the photo of the birth certificate was genuine.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 10:58, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Maybe it should be rewritten then since now it reads more like it states a fact that the birth certificate is indeed genuine. I'm guessing 99% of people never even check the reference.[[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Additionally, he's already been sworn in as president, so arguing over where he was born is a moot point. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 23:57, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama article has no family section. Neither does Clinton's or Carter's. However, Reagan's, Bush the elder's and W.Bush's articles have them. Why none on the democratic presidents'? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 11:42, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, but a Democrat family, which is something entirely different.  [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 2:22, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: How about adding a family section now mentioning his half brother in Kenya who was arrested for drug possession? Shouldn't there be something about him on the page? [[User:JohnKite|JohnKite]] 08:02, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This argument doesn't make sense. If he's &amp;quot;anti-family,&amp;quot; '''he wouldn't have a family'''. I suppose by &amp;quot;anti-family,&amp;quot; you mean pro-abortion. That has nothing do to with whether to include his own family. A good encyclopedia doesn't leave out information for reasons like this. It's relevant and it should be here.[[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 17:09, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Obamas term in office might not go to 2013, it might go further, it might not go that far, unless you are psychic this should be changed. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 11:58, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Incumbent&amp;quot; means he is the current holder of the office. It's simply a term to indicate that he is the most recent. And while it is true that Obama could be elected to a second term and thus serve until 2017, he hasn't. His first term expires on 2013 regardless of what happens between now and then (barring impeachment or death, of course) so it's factual to list that date. Listing a second term when he's only a week and a half in his first one is speculative and inappropriate for an encyclopedia. --[[User:Ampersand|Ampersand]] 14:49, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
It's the exact same thing we did with [[George W. Bush]] - &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;there's nothing factually wrong about saying whoever replaces obama will be an incumbent.&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; - saying incumbent merely confirms that he is the current president - no one has succeeded him yet.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is he or isn't he President?==&lt;br /&gt;
This article has a lot of wildly inaccurate and unsourced information in it.   It also can't seem to decide whether BO is President or not - the picture on the right says he is, the text varies from claiming he's won the election, to him being Senator.   I'd love to help clean this up, but can't seem to edit the page?   Ready to help.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 15:15, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, it's pretty weird isn't it. One would have thought that if it was important enough to protect then it would be important enough to update. But the failure to update tells the casual reader what to expect in respect of the general accuracy of the article - so it's probably not a bad thing.--[[User:British_cons|British_cons]] [[User_talk:British_cons|(talk)]] 11:12, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I notice the article has been updated to make it somewhat more reality-based.    Good.   However, I would expect  - almost to the case of 'demand' - that the article on the current POTUS begin with the short and simple line &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is the 44th and current President of the United States of America&amp;quot;.   Instead, the first sentence about this, arguably the world's most important person, is overlong, appallingly punctuated, begins immediately with unfounded gossip and wanders off into some other random irrelevant facts and utterly lacks focus.   It says a lot about what the reader can expect from the entire article to follow.   I wish I could help rewrite this article so as it would be more based on fact and reality - and particularly, better written - but as it's locked, that's impossible.   So all we, the casual readers, can do is suggest things which need to be done to improve the article.   I would begin by recommending the deletion of the entire monster and a total rewrite from scratch.   There's nothing here of substance and nothing that will engender any respect for this supposed 'encyclopedia'.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 13:33, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It's a shame we can't all be as learned and insightful as you, FNNoonan. However, I dare say all the hard-working editors here will jump up to obey your lofty commands. If you want a 'better' article, why not write one on your userpage/in a sandbox and submit it to the criticism of your peers? Or is this a case of 'those who can't, criticise'? [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 14:19, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: You must not have read my comment, in which I made a suggestion to improve the article's first sentence.   What's yours?   You might try contributing something to the debate rather than trying to shoot the messenger.   The message is  - the article's a disaster.   Now, what are you doing about that?   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 16:24, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I don't think it a disaster, but a multi-layered and well-argued piece. Looking at the revision history and talk pages, I see that some of the best minds on Consercvapedia think so, too. Therefore I have no need to do anything. You, on the other hand, see faults, but do nothing except indulge yourself in corrosive criticism. [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 17:10, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I would also point out that the article even fails to mention which country he's President of.   I would again recommend the inclusion of my suggested opening sentence - &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is the 44th and current President of the United States of America&amp;quot;.   Thank you for helping to improve this terrible article.   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 14:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The article should begin with &amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama is currently the 44th President of the United States of America.&amp;quot; Someone please make this change.  [[User:Gadzodilo|Gadzodilo]] 23:22, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for improving the article's first few words - we now know what his job is and of what country he's President.   But I would ask that someone PLEASE look at the grammar in that first sentence - it's absolutely atrocious.   Again, since I cannot edit the page, I cannot help but instead can only point out the problems here.   First, if you want to make the point about his birthplace, the correct place would be later - and then with an explanation of why this might be a problem (the Constitution states that President's must be born in the USA - there's no mention of this anywhere in the article).   If you want to make the point where it is, despite that being a nonsequitor, simply add a period after 'States' and remove the word 'although'.   Also please note that the word 'although' is a conditional - and what follows the word 'although' has nothing to do with the opening part of the sentence.   You might as well write &amp;quot;He is the President of the USA, although he apparently doesn't like cheese&amp;quot;.   The two items have no connection.   Subject-Object.   Next, the entire first sentence is utterly malformed, with a punctuation that woulod shame a four year old, including a period in the middle of the sentence.   There is what is presumably a birthdate just floating in the middle of the sentence, undescribed.   This is followed by a close-parentheses, where there was no open-parentheses.    The sentence then runs on with some gibberish about electoral donations.   It also appears as if Joe Biden was his running mate while he was a Senator from Illinois.   The first paragraph continues in what can barely be described as comprehensible English with a stream of random, unintroduced facts.   Finally, it ends with a nonsensical reference to the absolutely normal practice of politicians referring to the practices of their nation, and addressing their nation as a collective body.   I would love to help tidy up this amateur article, but the childish English throughout, combined with the fact that the article is locked, leave me to believe it is not possible, and this encyclopedia is anything but 'trustworthy'.   Would you trust your children with this article?   [[User:FNNoonan|FNNoonan]] 14:16, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Real Bible NOT Koran ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yeah, I been waiting for that one, but I’m not holding my breath. But since Obama DID in fact swear on Lincoln’s Bible that means (check this one in archives) you clowns owe me $100. Each. (American notes thank you.) [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 18:31, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You're clueless, Myles.  Obama's real oath was not on the Bible.  I don't know if it was on the Koran.  Do you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:01, 28 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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OP Myles back. Right, let me see if I can sum up the state of play. Obama tries to take the Oath on the Lincoln Bible, which presumably has special powers not available to the usual Gideon’s Hotel edition. Anyways, Chief Justice Roberts manages to bellyflop his role in history. It’s like the guy who needs play only one note on a triangle during the symphony and manages to foul that up. Along with 90% of the world, I thought that Obama was completely blameless for this glitch, and actually quite gracious. His face and bearing said “Hey, you stuffed up, but I forgive you. Let’s try it again.” This was not what the foaming at the mouth crowd saw, and talk here was of how Obama was not properly inaugurated, and that somehow it was all his fault. Then, to satisfy the New Philistines, he takes the oath, again. This time, no one of the Born Again crowd who frequent these occasions thinks to bring a Bible, but it is Obama’s fault once more, because apparently he should have one in his back pocket at all times. He takes the oath again. Hey, that’s good enough for me, but apparently I’m clueless, according to Andy, who, in one of his regular 2 line missives from above believes there’s more to this than meets the eye.&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, let me see. I suppose Obama could have paid Roberts off in the first instance to screw up the wording, so he would not have to put his hand on the Bible. (Because then he would wince with pain as the Word of God burnt his skin, or something.) This set up the SECOND inauguration at which everyone was paid to make sure no Bible was there, so Obama gets to be Prez while cunningly evading the Bible. You see, it all makes perfect sense, don’t it? Yeah, and I’M the one who’s clueless! Truly, what a man believes, he sees. Look, I’ve got an idea. Instead of hurling everything you got including the kitchen sink at Obama on a second by second basis, every time he so much as scratches his nose, let’s take the fair-minded, objective, dare I say American approach. It’s the customary 100 day honeymoon. Why don’t we all give him those 100 days, and THEN have a look at the plus and minus sheet? Sound like a sensible notion? Of course, that would mean putting your knee in some other crotch for that time, which is asking a hell of a lot I know. But then you would have some REAL grievances at the end instead of the kind of sort of all this relentless muck-raking on the basis of trivia. And just think of the size of the bonfire you could build then. &lt;br /&gt;
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You know, where I come from conservatives are known as people with a sense of honour, with ethical standards, polite and cultivated, aware of etiquette, educated, and with a keen sense for fair play. You might be using a different dictionary. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Myles, please read the box at the top of this page, and adhere to it.  Thanks. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:55, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Myles, one can tell you're a liberal just by observing how many words it takes you to say nothing.  Your non-American spelling of &amp;quot;honor&amp;quot; is also a giveaway.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:43, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Somebody decides to spell 'honour' the way that it is spelt correctly in '''English''' (the mother-tongue of '''England''') and you decide to try and be insulting about it.  Classy.--[[User:Ieuan|Ieuan]] 12:47, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And I have to ask... why is using non-American spelling a liberal trait? Our Prime Minister up here in Canada is as conservative as they come... [[User:SJames|SJames]] 13:37, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: It doesn't show you're non-conservative. It shows you are not American, or an un-American person. [[User:T2master|T2master]] 19:30, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Incumbent ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the box to the right of the page it says that Obama will be succeeded by [[incumbent]]? Doesn't this imply that he will have two terms? I'm a bit confused. [[User:AndyJM|AndyJM]] 11:19, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I can understand the confusion, but all it implies is that he is the current President. It would probably be better if the whole line was removed until we actually know who he would be succeeded by. [[User:ShawnJ|ShawnJ]] 13:09, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, I tried to fix it up, I really did. But it was hard what with the lock down. I tried dabbing liquid paper on my monitor but that didn’t work very well either. Normally, “Not known” or “To be announced” or “To be determined” are the accepted forms, but hey, what about &amp;quot;Sarah Palin&amp;quot;? Let’s be positive and proactive about this. That lady is gonna wipe the floor with this Obama ring in.  I’m marching in her parade right now. “Palin ain’t for failin’ “ &lt;br /&gt;
::Whoo hooo!!” [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 21:42, 29 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stylistic matter ==&lt;br /&gt;
Technically, it is proper to simply list the day of Obama's inauguration followed by a dash, as, God forbid, he might be reelected in 2012. So we can't say until the election when his last day in office will be... --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 09:36, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*I believe you are not correct. ''Technically'' he was elected to a four year term. The text for the info box says term of office, no?  That would be four years from his inauguration, 20 January, 2009.  One doesn't typically take into account the possibility of death, resignation or re-election. Perhaps you are saying what is &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; for Wikipedia?  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:52, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This[http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=George_W._Bush&amp;amp;oldid=598707] seems like a reasonable template &amp;quot;typical&amp;quot; for Conservapedia.  The Bush entry was changed from &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; to January 20, 2009 less than three weeks before the date that he was definitively leaving office.[[User:Mikek|Mikek]] 14:51, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::What he was elected to and his actual term in office can be different things. William Henry Harrison was elected for a four year term but his actual term was one month. As I recall Bushes article said 'present' until several days after his term was over. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:11, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, that's almost universal. We don't know when his term will end. He could be re-elected in four years, or shot tomorrow. We can't say when his term will ''actually'' end. Wikipedia, by the way, doesn't even have a dash- just &amp;quot;assumed office,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;incumbent&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;January 20, 2009.&amp;quot; If accuracy is our goal, it's best to simply put a dash, or a dash followed by &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;incumbent.&amp;quot; --[[User:DReynolds|DReynolds]] 15:34, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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As the article for [[Barack Hussein Obama]] includes his full name, [[John McCain]] should redirect to [[John Sidney McCain III]], [[Joe Biden]] to [[Joseph Robinette &amp;quot;Joe&amp;quot; Biden, Jr.]], etc. - [[User:LafinJack|LafinJack]] 17:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*No.  But you just keep on LafinJack. ;-) --  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:05, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to understand what LafinJack or WillB are complaining about.  What inconsistency? [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 7:08, 30 January 2009&lt;br /&gt;
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::The obvious answer: Hussein is a Muslim name. It helps when trying to portray the slant that President Obama is lying about being a Christian. &amp;quot;Sidney&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Robinette&amp;quot; are regular Western middle names and serve no significant purpose.  A similar line of reasoning can also explain why the Table of Contents is oddly out of view in President Obama's article. [[User:AdamSchaley|AdamSchaley]] 19:21, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Leave it to a liberal to reduce this discussion to nonsense, innuendo, and pointless name-calling.  What's the use of even trying to have this discussion when you won't discuss things rationally? [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]] 19:42, 01/09&lt;br /&gt;
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::I should remind you that this is a Conservative Christian encyclopedia with an ADMITTED BIAS. The goal is obvious: To show readers that Obama is a Muslim, however this is in line with the principals of the encyclopedia, so there isn't anything really to complain about. Conservatives want everyone to understand Obama is a Muslim. There is no NPOV, get over it (my $.02) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 21:56, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I'm pretty sure his religion should have no bearing in the first place. Then again, you're the type of moron who lets a candidate's religious faith influence your vote. &amp;quot;I AINT GON' VOTE FOR NO MUSLIMS OR JEWS.&amp;quot; I'm quite sure the color of his skin also has a bearing on you. Let's not forget that there isn't any credible evidence that he's indeed a Muslim. --[[User:VictorT|VictorT]] 17:45, 7 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think &amp;quot;Obama will likely be the first Muslim President&amp;quot; would be better written as &amp;quot;Obama is likely the first Muslim President&amp;quot; ... just a thought [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 22:08, 30 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd just like to rerequest that the Obama main picture get updated with a higher resolution version. It looks very bad stretched. Here is a URL to an official version (http://change.gov/page/-/officialportrait.jpg) [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 10:58, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Done. Thanks for the link. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;talk&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 11:24, 31 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama's &amp;quot;outlook is Muslim&amp;quot;?  That is simply not true'''&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the first things the Obama administration did was to put on the White House website that they were going to promote the homosexual agenda.  I cite the following: &amp;quot;President Obama had not even finished his inaugural address today before his agenda was posted on the WhiteHouse website, where he promised to &amp;quot;overturn&amp;quot; the Supreme Court's precedents on discrimination claims and to demand new laws requiring employers to provide special protections for homosexuals and others with &amp;quot;gender&amp;quot; issues.[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=86633]  I do know for a fact that homosexuality is presently generally looked upon very unfavorably in Muslim countries. I cite the following: &amp;quot;Same-sex intercourse carries the death penalty in five officially Muslim nations: Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, Sudan, and Yemen. [3] It formerly carried the death penalty in Afghanistan under the Taliban, and in Iraq under a 2001 decree by Saddam Hussein. The legal situation in the United Arab Emirates is unclear. In many Muslim nations, such as Bahrain, Qatar, Algeria or the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with jail time, fines or corporal punishment. In some Muslim-majority nations, such as Turkey, Jordan, Egypt, or Mali, same-sex intercourse is not forbidden by law. However, in Egypt gays have been the victims of laws against &amp;quot;morality&amp;quot;.&amp;quot;[http://www.religionfacts.com/homosexuality/islam.htm]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it is untrue to say that Obama's outlook is Muslim. [[User:Conservative|conservative]] 04:06, 1 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:His background is [[Islam]]ic, but I am unaware of his theological beliefs. Has he ever espoused a particular Christian or Muslim idea? If so, what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 20 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The first statement in the Insights section claims that &amp;quot;Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a few things wrong with what Obama said about Pearl Habor, but none of them constitute ignorance. The only things wrong with what he said are that he a) did no pluralize the phrase to &amp;quot;from the bombs that fell on Pearl Habor&amp;quot;; b) he wasn't accurate in the kind of weaponry used because they were actually torpedoes (which is hardly ignorance as it is a largely insignificant fact); or c) the fact that he failed to properly pluralize 'bomb' means that his phrase seems to reference a far more infamous bomb, the one on Hiroshima. This last point of course does not constitute ignorance. Even if he did mistaken Hiroshima for Pearl Habor I would see that as a gaff rather than evidence of impeded ignorance towards American history. But, given that, in the context of 'constantly evolving danger' and the other historical references contained within the whole statement, it is quite clear Obama did not mean Hiroshima, I would be inclined to either edit or remove this phrase entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, the place of birth was changed to Hawaii.  There has to be ''proof'' that he was ''not'' born in Hawaii, and we cannot allow someone else's opinion in the article which states that he was not.  But, the birth controversy is still a relevent topic as far as his possible history and the campaign is concerned, and this feature has been preserved.&lt;br /&gt;
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And third, there are minor corrections to be made to the article, which include writing and grammer, accuracy, and minor info that could be added as to his presidency.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 01:50, 2 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that Andrew Schafly was right to move the sections back into their previous order.  [[User:LatinScholar|LatinScholar]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:I think that speculation should come after factual information in an article. Why are we talking about what Obama &amp;quot;may be&amp;quot; before what he actually is? --'' '''[[user:JArneal|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#006666&amp;quot; &amp;gt;JArneal&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'' ''' 18:29, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::There you go again!  &amp;quot;Actually is&amp;quot; ? I think first, JArneal, in the great tradition of liberals, you need to define what &amp;quot;is&amp;quot; -- ''is''!  Please find a new hobby, JArneal, as your present one of constantly arguing and disputing doesn't wear well. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:59, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why must liberals censor that Obama is likely a Muslim... get over it guys --[[User:PMichael|PMichael]] 20:06, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Sheesh, TK. I'm sorry if I offended you. Do you really want me to define &amp;quot;is&amp;quot;?  I was just asking why we don't put factual information in front, and speculation in back. Is there a reason? --'' '''[[user:JArneal|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#006666&amp;quot; &amp;gt;JArneal&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'' ''' 22:24, 3 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama and Sexism  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the &amp;quot;Presidential Campaign&amp;quot; section of this article it states &amp;quot;Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being '''a woman''' and outsider.&amp;quot; The evidence of Obama mocking Palin for being a woman is explained later: &amp;quot;Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her.&amp;quot; Are you talking about this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eu9Z2hXky0&amp;amp;eurl=http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php ? How is this video a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear? Not only that, but there is little evidence to support the claim that Obama hired Winner to make this video.&lt;br /&gt;
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The article suggests that Obama was caught for hiring someone to make a sexist smear video. I am asking for definitive proof that Obama was behind the video, AND definitive proof that the video is a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear. If there is no proof, I am at least requesting that the untrue statements about Obama mocking Palin for being a woman are removed. If I do not get a response from one of the editors of this article I will email the owners of Conservapedia directly. [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 19:25, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First, if you have correct information as to who was actually behind the video in question then it needs to be brought to our attention in a fair manner.  Second, the way you brought this about, by making your statement here in the form of a DEMAND, is not going to be tolerated.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 19:38, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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First of all, if my tone sounded as though i was demanding something from you or seemed disrespectful in some way I apologize, that was not my intent. I am merely requesting that the article changes it's tone. It states: &amp;quot;Obama was caught...&amp;quot; we do not know for certain that Obama was behind the video at all. Are we as Americans not considered innocent until proven guilty?&lt;br /&gt;
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And what about the charges of sexism? The article calls the video a &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; smear. Will someone please tell me what was sexist about it? [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 23:02, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looking at the references, it is a documented fact that this video was made professionally; it is not an amateur attempt at all.  It's also documented that Winner &amp;amp; Associates (including Ethan Winner) are die-hard Obama supporters who have given much to the campaign.  While it is not proven from these pages that Obama supported such a video, it is also not proven that he didn't help out the creation of it in some way.  I added Ethan Winner's ''alleged'' claim that he made the video alone.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 22:17, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Well that is a start, thank you. I honestly didn't think I'd get anyone to change anything in the article. But there are still those sexism charges. Can you provide some explanation to those? The line reads: &amp;quot;Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her.&amp;quot; Do you think you might be able to take out that word sexist? And maybe reword it in a way that doesn't immediately imply that Obama is behind the video (Until damning evidence is brought forth)? And there is also the claim at the beginning stating: &amp;quot;Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider.&amp;quot; The only evidence supposedly supporting the claim that Obama mocked Palin for being &amp;quot;a woman and outsider&amp;quot; is this smear video. Am I just missing something here? How is Obama mocking her for being a woman in this video? How is the video itself at all sexist? [[User:FairMan|FairMan]] 23:02, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*FairMan, you are in danger of being blocked.  There was a well-documented news story, during the campaign, showing women were getting paid less on his campaign staff and in his Senate offices, which was hugely embarassing to Obama. [http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obamacommentary/222679,CST-NWS-sweet22.stng]  Palin was mocked by Obama and Joe Biden, for her so-called &amp;quot;lack of experience&amp;quot; even though her own exceeded Obama's, in terms of executive/managerial experience.  Please stop your liberal excuse making and time-wasting.  Learn the truth, and it will set you free! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:31, 4 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why exactly am I in danger of being blocked? I am aware of that news story, I will save that for another place and time (I don't want to stir up more trouble then I am already in). My main complaint is that the article claimed that Obama mocked Palin for being a woman. The only evidence that supports this claim in the article is the link to the smear video mentioned previously (If there is more evidence then please add it). It is claimed that the video is a sexist smear. Why is my questioning of the label &amp;quot;sexist&amp;quot; being ignored every time someone replies? Please tell me if I am missing something obvious here. It is not my intent to waste anyone's time. I am just looking for answers.&lt;br /&gt;
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That is a great example! That is something you could add to the article to back up the claim of Obama mocking Palin for being an outsider. Currently there is nothing in the &amp;quot;Tone&amp;quot; section of the article backing that up.{{unsigned|FairMan}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*Then that is what you should have said, is exactly my point! Everyone wants to be a critic, while offering nothing, as the box at the top of this page says, that will improve it.  If one doesn't do that, how am I, or any editor to distinguish you from the dozens of trolls and disruptor's who sign up everyday?  You know how long it took me to find that citation?  Less then two minutes. I ask for your understanding, but do not apologize for my comments, simply because I have just pointed out why I would think what I did.  &amp;quot;Assume good faith&amp;quot; is something  attempted by lots of other places, but it rarely is achieved, and certainly not so often here, where even the most casual reader/editor knows we are constantly set-up by liberal trolls and parodists.  Your last comments let all of us see your motivations are perhaps better than assumed, and I do thank you for that. This is how you will build your reputation here, and anywhere else in life. I look forward to other suggestions, offered in the same spirit, and in fact, if you want, put them on my talk to make sure I see them, if you want. Thanks.  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:24, 5 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Category ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*No, sly mis-naming of the object isn't it? --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:53, 6 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is a missing parenthesis in his date of birth, and in the &amp;quot;Birth certificate controversy&amp;quot; section, the word &amp;quot;intelligible&amp;quot; should be &amp;quot;ineligible&amp;quot;.  Those are the only 2 I caught in a quick scan of the page.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:32, 7 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks!  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 23:48, 7 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I'm a new user. I was curious as to whether this talk page is actualy considered in the editing of this article. What i mean by that is, as this article is locked-down, does the editing administrator read this page and make changes to the article, or will the article always be left as it is? ( I don't mean to offend, as Imentioned, I am a new user, and I am honestly just curious)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Flag Pin &amp;quot;insights&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This section is badly written and requires major change. First, it says Obama didn't provide &amp;quot;adequate&amp;quot; explanation. &amp;quot;Adequate&amp;quot; is subjective. He either provided and explanation or he didn't. The citation indicates he explained. Second, the word &amp;quot;presumably.&amp;quot; Encyclopedias aren't supposed to presume things. Third, the word &amp;quot;likely.&amp;quot; Again, just an opinion. &amp;quot;Recently&amp;quot; is a vague term; be specific. The assumption about military donors is unsupported speculation. If anyone cares about making this into objective encyclopedic content, it should read as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after 9/11, but later stopped wearing it, explaining he felt that &amp;quot;Patriotism to me, isn't what you wear on your lapel. &amp;quot;It's what you carry in your heart. I don't need a pin to certify my love for this country.&amp;quot;[59] As of DATE, he has begun wearing a pin again.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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*Dantes, why are you here?  If it is to talk, talk, talk, complain, complain, complain, argue, argue, argue, you chose the wrong place. Our tolerance of liberal/socialist Canadians is pretty low. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:24, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, if you bother to read my entries, you'll see that I'm providing civil and rational suggestions for how to make this content more encyclopedic and objective. It's sad that you assume I'm a liberal/socialist just because I'm proposing corrections, and my country of residence is totally irrelevant. The better question would be why are YOU here? I'm here to propose corrections. Apparently you're here to try to insult me. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 11:40, 3 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Michelle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could we link to her? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:14, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm pretty sure there is no requirement that one must be Christian to be President.  Ah, I just checked the constitution and it mentions nothing about religion except once, in the first amendment.  He's not a Muslim, which has been confirmed, and even if he were, what does it matter?  Maybe this should be reconsidered?[[User:Heartbeat|Heartbeat]] 16:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Actually, I'm correct on multiple points as per the United States Constitution.  And Hussein is not a 'Muslim' name.  Muslim is the word used to denote a person whose religion is Islam.  Hussein is an ''Arab'' derived name Mr. Schlafly. [[User:Heartbeat|Heartbeat]] 16:37, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: The Constitution also mentions religion in Article VI &amp;quot;but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.&amp;quot; --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 16:46, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Whatever faith Obama is, he is not a Christian&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:Xld3RpINYVUJ:www.conversantlife.com/politics/is-barack-obama-really-a-christian+obama+quote+christian&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ct=clnk&amp;amp;cd=11&amp;amp;gl=us&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. For he fails to acknowledge the Nicene creed. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 18:58, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: &amp;quot;Pauline Christians&amp;quot; as opposed to .... Muslim Christians????  Got news for you:  Paul had nothing to do with the Nicene Creed, which is accepted by all Christians.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:48, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Heartbeat, try to stick to the point; and don't be so pedantic. Many people use the terms ''[[Muslim]]'' and ''[[Islamic]]'' interchangeably. Such loose usage does not invalidate an argument. You are surely award that the Arab countries are within the Islamic cultural sphere, and that they almost all are places where the required religion is Islam. So having an Arabic name places one within the Islamic sphere and is a [[clue]], anyway, to someone's religious heritage.&lt;br /&gt;
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These discussions are long on finger-pointing and short on research. Let's have a little more information. Has Obama been attending a church? Is church attendance a better indicator of religious faith than one's father's last name? Was the church he attended Christian? If it doesn't adhere to the [[Nicene Creed]], then is it some sort of heretical variant, or what?&lt;br /&gt;
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And why is it important what his religion is? Does anyone think he plans to violate the [[First Amendment]] by setting up a [[state religion]] (such as [[Islam]])? Or that he plans to neglect the protection of Americans' [[religious freedom]] even more than President Bush did? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If all of Obama's achievements are linked to affirmative action, how did he get around Harvard Law's anonymous grading procedures? Did he find a way to communicate his race to his professors on his exams? Is there evidence of this? I know that Andy Schlafly was at HLS at the same time as Obama. Maybe he could shed some light on how Obama accomplished that. Was this not official policy when you went to Harvard: http://www.law.harvard.edu/academics/handbook/rules-relating-to-law-school-studies/examinations.html [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 19:15, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Law schools have almost always graded anonymously. Journals like the Harvard Law Review do, admittedly, have affirmative action policies in selecting their editors, but they do ''not'' use affirmative action in selecting board members. So at most Obama got onto HLR by affirmative action, but his grades and election as President were his own accomplishments. Great point RickD.-[[User:LuciusF|LuciusF]] 19:01, 23 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I seem to recall reading that there was a vote in selecting Obama as the President of the Law Review and that a number of conservatives voted for him: http://daggatt.blogspot.com/2008/11/obamas-harvard-law-days.html&lt;br /&gt;
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::The block of conservatives on the Law Review my year I think was eager to avoid having any of the most political people on the left govern the Review. I mean, the first bedrock criterion, I think for almost all of the editors, was to have somebody with an absolutely first-rate legal mind who would be able to engage competently with the nation's top legal scholars on their scholarship and on these articles, and who would provide the intellectual leadership for the Review that it always needed. That was non-negotiable for almost everybody right or left . . . And ultimately, the conservatives on the Review supported Barack as president in the final rounds of balloting because he fit that bill far better than the other people who were running. We had all worked with him over the course of a year. And we had all spent countless hours in the presence of Barack, as well as others of our colleagues who were running, in Gannett House [the Law Review offices], and so you get a pretty good sense of people over the course of a year of late nights working on the Review. You know who the rabble-rousers are. You know who the people are who are blinded by their politics. And you know who the people are who, despite their politics, can reach across and be friendly to and make friends with folks who have different views. And Barack very much fell into the latter category.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This seems to call into question the statement in the article about Obama's success being entirely the result of affirmative action. The single citation currently used to support this point consists of one sentence pulled from an article that otherwise casts Obama in a very positive light. Does anyone have another citation in support of the existing language besides that one, or should we discuss the possibility of changing or removing that paragraph? [[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:23, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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At second glance, none of the citations say anything about Obama's HLS achievements being the result of affirmative action. Law students constantly publish articles on subjects that they haven't taken formal courses on. My school doesn't even offer courses dealing with election law, but my friend still published an article about it. The article is missing a logical step between &amp;quot;Obama published an article without taking a class on [science subject] and Constitutional Law&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Obama's article was published because of his race.&amp;quot; Has the writer done any research to justify that inference? [[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 00:20, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;lt;1% Correction ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;lt;1% statistic appears to be legitimate, but it is not presented correctly. According to the source currently used for this statistic (http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm), 'The Internet site aljazeera.net published an interview with Ahmad Al Qataani أحمد القطعاني An important Islamic cleric who said: “In every hour, 667 Muslims convert to Christianity. Everyday, 16,000 Muslims convert to Christianity. Ever year, 6 million Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;quot;'&lt;br /&gt;
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:It also seems like a bad use of statistics. It's useful if you are trying to determine whether a random Muslim converted to Christianity, but is less useful when you're talking about a specific person where lots of other evidence makes a raw percentage meaningless. The percentage of Americans who become President is a lot lower than 1%, but that doesn't mean that Obama didn't become President.[[User:AGoogins|AGoogins]] 14:33, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There is nothing fallacious about the 1% statistic, or its use here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:47, 24 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: But do you agree that the information I presented here, in so far as it relates to the proper wording of this part of the article, is also not false, but is in fact a more reasonable summary of the truth behind the 1% number? I'm not trying to make any statement about how applicable the figure may or may not be when talking about Obama's own religious status; that's clearly a broader debate for another time. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:49, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama's name in Arabic? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama II (Arabic: باراك حسين أوباما)(allegedly born in Honolulu Aug. 4, 1961) &amp;quot; [[User:UnLiberal|UnLiberal]] 15:46, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wikipedia does that for Arabs, not Muslims. Also we should get someone who actually reads Arabic rather than a Google translation, anyone can punch something into an internet translator. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 18:17, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The problem with your auto-translate is that it has too many vowels.  It's assuming that you typed in a non-Arabic word and it's trying to reproduce it phonetically, instead of just figuring out the original version.  I looked up &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Barack&amp;quot; on Wikipedia to see how they're spelled, Googled up those two words together in Arabic, and found the following full name spelled just like this all over the place:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;'''&lt;br /&gt;
بارك حسین اوباما'''  &lt;br /&gt;
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I think it'd be a pretty neat touch to add to the article, honestly. [[User:DavidLReyes|DavidLReyes]] 18:13, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Ed_Poor Ed Poor’s] recent addition to the list of points arguing that Obama is a Muslim is out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
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Retaining the full content of the second sentence would give readers a better grasp of the context in which he made this statement. Why did you choose to omit this information? And on what basis do you present this as proof that Obama is a Muslim?&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, knowing the context seems to weaken the point’s usefulness in revealing Obama’s religion, because it suggests that the quote was informed by his time living abroad rather than his own personal beliefs. If I spent several years living in Thailand and later commented that the experience showed me that Buddhism was compatible with the modern world, would you think I was a Buddhist?&lt;br /&gt;
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If we insist on continuing to build the case for Obama’s religion, let’s please do so carefully so that we do not omit or obscure any relevant information. If the quote is to remain in the article, I propose that the line be altered to read&lt;br /&gt;
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NB - I would make this and other minor changes myself, but the article is locked. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 18:49, 25 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The background adds nothing.  Obama's promoting Islam with his statement itself, and there will be many more examples during his term.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:26, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I understand your desire for brevity, I respectfully disagree. I think that a reader's interpretation of the quote could be made very different given the full context, especially considering the heading under which we provide it here. And though I do see how the statement itself could be seen as a promotion of Islam, there are many things which are &amp;quot;compatible&amp;quot; with the modern world that not everyone would want to endorse - homosexuality (even if you disagree with it, there's no question that it is becoming more and more accepted by society every day), war (just look at Africa), and drug use just to name a few. One could correctly state that they are thriving in these times without endorsing them. Lastly, how does the expectation of more examples of his support for Islam have any bearing on the inclusion or exclusion of information regarding this one? --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 20:38, 26 February 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Conservapedia has [http://www.conservapedia.com/Out_of_context this] to say about quotes taken out of context. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 09:02, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== More religion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The intro states that Obama &amp;quot;chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&amp;quot; His first oath was also real. It was cited as being legally binding. It's misleading to call the second oath &amp;quot;real.&amp;quot; Also, did he choose not to use a Bible, or did he just not use one? This is an important point. Anyone care to look into this and change it if necessary? [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 17:19, 2 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Perhaps you think Obama's aides wouldn't let him use the Bible for his real, private oath???  Please.  Obama could have easily used a Bible ... if he wanted to.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:01, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: You've ignored my first point, which is that the first oath was also real, valid and legally binding. It's misleading and inaccurate to distinguish the second oath as &amp;quot;real,&amp;quot; when the first one was equally so. But as to my second point, it's this kind of thing that prevents Conservapedia from becoming truly encyclopedic; writers are choosing to rely on their own logical deductions instead of verifiable sources. The sentence says Obama &amp;quot;chose not use&amp;quot; a Bible. The point is you don't know he chose not to use one. Maybe Roberts said they didn't need one. Maybe Obama didn't want to use one. Maybe the only Bible available was a Klingon translation. Who knows? But this article confidently states that he &amp;quot;chose not to&amp;quot; use a Bible without anything to back up that statement. This will never be &amp;quot;The Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot; if this kind of content is permitted. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 11:46, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;Dantes&amp;quot;, your rant is incoherent.  There's no disputing that Obama &amp;quot;chose not to use&amp;quot; a Bible for his real, private oath.  Note, by the way, that if the first oath was &amp;quot;real, valid and legally binding,&amp;quot; then there would not have been a second oath.  No kidding.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:44, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I agree with ASchlafly, it's not as if a Bible would have been hard to find, or as if the second oath was so urgent that there was no time to find one. And why is a second oath needed if the first one was 'real, valid and legally binding'? I doubt he did it for his own amusement: &amp;quot;Hey guys, that was fun, let's do it again!&amp;quot; [[User:ETrundel|ETrundel]] 14:13, 6 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: But that isn't the point. And Aschlafly, I'm sorry you couldn't understand my suggestion. But the fact that you don't like it doesn't make it a rant. I'll explain again, in simpler terms:&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::It doesn't matter if that is the only logical explanation. Without any proof, it's just speculation, regardless of how likely it is. Unless someone can supply a reputable source that says Obama chose not to use a bible, this is an assumption. That makes it biased. Saying &amp;quot;there's no disputing&amp;quot; something isn't the same as proving it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: As to the &amp;quot;real&amp;quot; oath, basic research indicates it was done out of a &amp;quot;superabundance of caution,&amp;quot; not because it was legally necessary. See this article: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5iJKZrJDhy6g52PZNb7phfFmsQVow A &amp;quot;seeker of truth&amp;quot; would know this, or at least try to find out. [[User:Dantès|Dantès]] 14:52, 12 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obama is likely the first Muslim President ==&lt;br /&gt;
Found yet another example. Muslim helps Obama get into Harvard. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''&amp;quot;It was former Malcom X lawyer and New York City mayoral candidate Percy Sutton who inadvertently revealed how Obama could even afford to get into Harvard. In a New York television show entitled “Inside City Hall”, Sutton admitted that orthodox Muslim, Black Nationalist, and Black Panther mentor Dr. Khalid al-Mansour personally asked Sutton to help Obama get into Harvard.&amp;quot;'' [http://blogs.newberlinnow.com/speaking_the_truth/default.aspx Barack Obama Couldn't Pass a Background Investigation In His Own Administration] --[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 23:49, 3 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Blogs are nice. But if you're going to use one as a source for this article, I would prefer they disclose their own sources so that those sources can be checked. Unfortunately, there was not a single link in the entire post. Maybe an actual video clip of the interview, or a coverage of the story by a news organization? --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 01:00, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dear comrad, you have the peoples names, you have the name of the show, are you mad it is not sourced further for you?-[[User:Jpatt|jpatt]] 01:13, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not mad, though I am a little disappointed that not everyone here seems interested in pushing for greater quality. We are an internet encyclopedia, and as such are expected to provide credible outside sources for all our material. In any case, I took your advice and went looking for additional sources and found  [http://mediamatters.org/items/200809080018 this coverage] as well as [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/mansourian_candidate.htm this post]. Note that, although both of these are internet blogs, they both provide material in the form of outside links to back up their discussion; the latter even does this with a video of the interview. Yes, the first one is from Media Matters, but it contains some good follow-up. If you're really interested in presenting the truth, more information always helps, even if it means having to dig around and analyze all of it before you figure out what exactly what the truth is. I hope these prove useful. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:23, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: SStaples, now that you've overcome your initial denial and confirmed the accuracy of the statement, do yourself a favor and open your own mind further.  Start recognizing that over half of what you see on television and learned in school is liberal deceit.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:05, 4 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, with respect, I never denied the accuracy of Jpatt's quotation. I merely wanted a better source so that both it and this article as a whole would be better supported. --[[User:SStaples|SStaples]] 08:32, 5 March 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama's Tax Cut Claims During the Campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to add this text right before the &amp;quot;Campaign financing&amp;quot; secion:&lt;br /&gt;
:During the campaign Obama repeatedly claimed he would “cut taxes for no less than 95% of &amp;quot;working families.&amp;quot;”. The Wall Street Journal asked, “how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all?” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In truth, Obama was calling government handouts “tax credits” and counting those as tax cuts. The WSJ wondered why McCain “allowed Mr. Obama's 95% illusion to go unanswered”. [[User:Sjay|Sjay]] 19:32, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Good point.  I just unlocked the page for you to insert info as you think best.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:48, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I added this text. Thanks. [[User:Sjay|Sjay]] 20:42, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama &amp;amp; Che Guevara / Fidel Castro etc==&lt;br /&gt;
I was surprised this page had such little about all the connections out there. Thus I have added the fact that his poster is taken to resemble Jim Fitzpatricks Che poster. Also during the campaign his workers were found with Cuban flags bearing the face of Marxist &amp;quot;hero&amp;quot; (puke) [[Che Guevara]]. I added this fact as well with a ref. thanks and Cuba Libre ! (free Cuba from Commie-nism) [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 20:18, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Can an admin possibly help me add some images to the page. I want to add [http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_8Mo9wgzZpRk/SFLC2eJtvXI/AAAAAAAAA8I/zV0AwV3hbVM/s400/obamachehouston2__oPt.jpg This one] of Obamas campaign HQ, with a Cuban Che flag. just google it for more info. Someone also needs to add [http://ecarson.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/im000541.jpg this brilliant image] to the article, showing all of Obamas Commie pals. Story behind it [http://ecarson.wordpress.com/2009/01/22/communist-obama-display/ here]. Lastly I want to add [http://www.virtuousplanet.com/shops/userimages/00003/00000000008/section/00000000000000061879.png this image] I made to his political view section. thanks and Viva Conservatism! [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 20:24, 9 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Abandoned ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is starting to look like nothing more than an abandoned campaign ad. [[User:Everett3|Everett3]] 00:05, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: please be more specific? [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:22, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Page should be unlocked==&lt;br /&gt;
Right now it seems that registered users can't edit the article. Why is that? How do we expect to compete with the Communists at Wikipedia, if we ham string some of our best talent. Things are happening everyday, and our nation irks closer to disaster and Marxist takeover. This article should be our best one, and our most updated. Come on fellas, this is a war of ideas. [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:30, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*The reason that it is locked is comments like yours.  Communists at Wikipedia?  That is so over the top, it rounds the bend and meets up with the liberals wacky comments, PaulRevere.  I will be happy to unlock it for you, so long as you read what it says at the bottom of the edit screen: ''&amp;quot;If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;'' --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: With all due respect TK, I disagree on Wikipedia being communist infiltrated in many ways. Just read their Obama article compared to the one here. As for sources and added info, there is tons of good info at [http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289 this article] that I wanted to add. Basically Obama should be described right off the bat as a MARXIST, no if ands or butts about it. [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 00:47, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Remember encyclopedia's do not use speculation or conjecture. While you and I might agree as to the plausibility of of many of the items in the article, the author's opinion, absent facts, is just that; the opinion of the author.  I have unlocked the article. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:55, 16 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Please unlock the article, many recent disasters are missing from it. Thanks &amp;amp; Viva America ! [[User:PaulRevere|PaulRevere]] 21:25, 11 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Age template==&lt;br /&gt;
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I mentally calculated his age wrong, which is embarrassing for a math tutor! Anyway, I added an {{tl|age}} template, so on August 4th he'll age one year. And the year after that another, and so on. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:50, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Ha ha.  You're a genius, Ed!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:54, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not to boast, but the [[Template:Age]] which I created over at Wikipedia is in over 50,000 articles. It's hard to find a bio there which doesn't use it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:00, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Referring to America in 3rd person? ==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.&amp;quot;- this is 1st person plural, surely? Sorry to nit pick, but it ''is'' on the front page after all. [[User:WillD|WillD]] 17:27, 21 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Damned if you do, damned if you don't ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the subject of his American flag lapel pin, the &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section says that he ceased wearing one because it &amp;quot;presumably&amp;quot; would have hurt his relations with anti-military campaign donors. Then he starts to wear it again, and this is explained as being &amp;quot;likely&amp;quot; to do with political pandering. It sounds as if the author is determined to view every action Obama takes in a negative light. --[[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 10:58, 27 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Needed updates for Turkey speech, &amp;quot;no longer Christian&amp;quot;, etc. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't have editing power for this article, but it'd be great if someone can add:&lt;br /&gt;
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*update on Obama's &amp;quot;no longer a Christian nation&amp;quot; comments. [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=67735]&lt;br /&gt;
*confirming that the &amp;quot;speech in muslim capitol in first 100 days&amp;quot; prediction came true (Turkey)&lt;br /&gt;
*any other pertinent facts from his recent speech in Turkey, especially the &amp;quot;Islam is not the enemy&amp;quot; type of content.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Lots of significant events that flesh out his perspective and stance in recent weeks...&lt;br /&gt;
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: Go ahead, David.  I just unlocked it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:14, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Interesting.... so Obama said in Turkey, and I quote, &amp;quot;The United States has been '''enriched by Muslim Americans'''. Many other Americans have Muslims in their family, or have lived in a Muslim-majority country. I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot; [[User:Pandeism|Pandeism]] 22:36, 7 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::What's also interesting is where you chose to add your emphasis. Why not read it as: &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. '''Many other Americans''' have Muslims in their family, or '''have lived in a Muslim-majority country'''. I know, because '''I am one of them'''&amp;quot;? --[[User:Eoinc|Eoinc]] 18:27, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I have respect for Muslims and for Islam, but this hardly makes me non-Christian. I am a Jewish convert to Christianity. I wish we could stop branding Obama as non-Christian. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::If we must criticize him, let's focus on describing his policies and the effects they have had or are likely to have. He is primarily a politician; he is not a religious leader. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:48, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Ed, you make a valid point, but many (including myself, historians, reporters and voters) would disagree.  A president's religious beliefs are significant.  When a president ''lies'' about those beliefs, then the significance is amplified. Do you think Obama told the truth when he campaigned as a Christian?  I don't, and that raises valid questions about what the truth really is that Obama was lying about.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Ed, you suggest focusing only on Obama's policies, but unfortunately policies are often not known in time to object to them.  Obama quickly sent a secret letter to Russia upon becoming president, and the public had no opportunity to object.  Hitler did not publicize his policies to give people an early opportunity to object.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:41, 8 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes he did, most of his polices were clearly laid out in Mein Kampf, which was published before he came to power --[[User:LPowell|LPowell]] 20:21, 20 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*That's really ludicrous.  A small, hardly read tome, little noticed or read, written by a fringe paper hanger,  is hardly (in any era) publicizing something. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:32, 20 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I do not think that your above description can be accurately applied to Mein Kampf. It consists of two volumes and a total of twenty seven chapters. Granted its popularity grew with its authors profile but it had already achieved 850,000 sales by 1933, the year in which Hitler rose to power. In any case Hitler can hardly be accused of trying to suppress circulation of the book, as is evidenced by the German government’s purchase and distribution of six million copies in the following nine year period. &lt;br /&gt;
In Mein Kampf Hitler sets out his ambitions, including the establishment of a new world order, expanding German territories in the east and exterminating the Jewish people. I must admit that I have not read Audacity of Hope, but would be extremely surprised to discover that it contained similar content. As such think it is a huge leap to try to draw parallels between the two leaders. --[[User:LPowell|LPowell]] 18:18, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Allegedly Born in Honolulu?==&lt;br /&gt;
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The first sentence says he was '''allegedly''' born in Honolulu, except one of the references linking to this statement is a '''confirmation''' from state officials that he was born in Honolulu.  And not to mention he's released his birth certificate.  I think it is dishonest to have the word 'allegedly' here.  I'm taking it out unless anyone objects. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 08:38, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok I changed it and it was instantly reverted back.  It is a '''fact''' that Obama was born in Honolulu verified by many independent sources.  Encyclopedias report '''facts''' not unproven allegations.  I am reverting it back. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:25, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Argument for Obama being a Muslim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we have an honest discussion about this section.  There may be something to it, but a lot of the bullets are a bit absurd.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them.&amp;quot;[16]&lt;br /&gt;
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I interpret this as he '''lived''' in a Muslim country which is true.  This doesn't make him Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama's background, education, and outlook are Muslim, and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.[17][18]&lt;br /&gt;
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This is misleading to say the least.  Random statistics have no place in an encyclopedia.  Does this 1% figure include all the Muslims in the middle east who do not convert to Christianity, it likely does and therefore has nothing to do with Obama who is an educated US citizen.  -[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama recently mentioned his religion as &amp;quot;my Muslim faith.&amp;quot;[21]&lt;br /&gt;
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If you watch the video, it's clearly out of context.  He said &amp;quot;John Mccain has not talked about my Muslim faith&amp;quot;.  Meaning John Mccain had not himself accused Obama of being Muslim.  If you watch a few seconds past this on the video he explains this.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, it probably is &amp;quot;compatible with the modern world&amp;quot;.  Why is this evidence he is Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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I could go on but I am getting tired of this.  I'm not saying get rid of this section, but the claims should be factually correct and not be based on sweeping generalizations.  Furthermore, why is this the first section in the article?  Usually in an encyclopedia, the biographical content comes first.  Early life and legal career and that stuff.  And usually encyclopedia articles not the place for pushing your particular beliefs or rumor about somebody.  I welcome any comments.  --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:05, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Paul, you have free will to reject that 2+2=4 too.  I'm not going to spend my morning trying to convince you.  [[Obama]] lied when he campaigned as a Christian.  It may be years before you admit that to yourself, or you may never admit it, or you may admit it but actually like the [[deceit]].  Suit yourself, but the evidence is overwhelming.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:36, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since you never addressed my concern about the ordering of the article I'll assume your in agreement.  Biographical information first and then other issues.  By the way, perhaps Obama lied about being a Christian, but if he did, its much more likely he's an Atheist than a Muslim.   -[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 09:54, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You assume wrong.  Don't think that you're going to downplay the truth by burying it later in an entry.&lt;br /&gt;
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: As to your theory, it just doesn't fit the evidence.  Atheists having Obama's upbringing are virtually non-existent, and atheists' intellectual style is very different from Obama's.  Feel free to start a different entry developing your theory, because it will become apparent quickly how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:11, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's not a truth, it's your theory that he is a Muslim, just as it is my theory that he is an Atheist.  Obama says he is Christian, and who is to say otherwise?  A person's faith is entirely a personal thing, you can never say for certain what he believes in, you have to go with what he has said in public, namely that he is Christian.  Whether he might secretly be Muslim or Atheist is inconsequential, they are both theories, and neither theory belongs in an encyclopedia (which is fact based), end of story. --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:31, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And your claim that &amp;quot;Atheists having Obama's upbringing are virtually non-existent&amp;quot; is another sweeping generalization.  Please tell me how that proves that he is a Muslim (or not an Atheist), because it's completely absurd&lt;br /&gt;
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: By the way, Obama's father was an Atheist.  I suspect that most people retain the religion (or lack thereof) of their parents.  But either way, I'm not trying to make the case that he's an Atheist (or that he's not a Muslim).  My point is that he says he's a Christian so anything else is just a theory which has no place in an encyclopedia article (unless this is not really an encyclopedia, but just a forum for pushing your conservative ideology). --[[User:PaulLaroque|PaulLaroque]] 12:40, 10 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Dog  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we want to add anything about the Obamas' new dog (Portugese water dog)? --[[User:RobertT|RobertT]] 11:19, 12 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion of [[User:Clintville]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe these have been discussed on this talk page before, and settled after input from [[User:Aschlafly]]. In particular, I think it has been exposed that Snopes has been bit gullible in the past when it comes to liberal deceit. As far as the other two items go, though they are not convincing in a vacuum, we must consider them in context of all the other evidence. See the two or three talk page sections above this one, or the talk archives, for more discussion on this. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 01:10, 22 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Kenya is not a muslim country. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the CIA World Fact Book, Kenya is 78% Christian.&lt;br /&gt;
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ke.html&lt;br /&gt;
So I have deleted the claim that Kenya is a predominantly muslim country. [[User:DanielVaccle|DanielVaccle]] 09:52, 25 April 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Middle Name in title ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that Hussein is in the title for this article (Barack Hussein Obama). This is not done for any president who doesn't regularly use his middle name (Obama doesn't use Hussein anywhere). Can we either a)take Hussein out of the title of b)add the middle name of every US president. while his middle name i on of the many proofs he is a Muslim, that goes in the article, not in the title.&lt;br /&gt;
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:That's the name he was sworn in under.  He's not ashamed of his middle name, why are you? Fair and balanced is a news organization motto, adding a middle name to each President is not a requirement here. Though nobody is stopping you from additions.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:19, 10 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Every other president was sworn in using his middle name and it isn't in there title. I'm not ashamed of his middle name, that is an unfair statement portaying me as a liberal. I will take you up on that challange and add middle names to every president, because we can't single Obama out in the title, it is in the article we go for the kill. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I take that back, it seems as editing the title of an article is harder than it seems. Can anyone help me. {{Unsigned|Backstop}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No other President has gone to such lengths to obscure/hide their background and connections, either.  That is why the middle name is used. If you try making the kind of changes you are talking about, we will simply wish you Godspeed, and say goodbye, so I don't suggest it. Also, use the signature button above, when editing, on all posts, please.  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:12, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Obama uses his full name.  Why does that bother you?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:12, 12 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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First off, i do believe Obama is a Muslim, based partly on the middle name, but mostly on other proofs. However, there is a time and place for proofs, and the title isn't one of tem, I'm just asking about a minor inconsistency in the titles of articles (the Presidents), why it is there and what is planned to be done about it. i am in no way offended by hiss middle name, that is an unfair comment portraying me as a liberal. &lt;br /&gt;
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TK, we have had presidents smuggle illegal goods out of Italy (Jefferson, who also was reported to have had an affair with his slave that produced a cild), we've had a president who was never married and lived with a male roommate (Buchanan), while Obama ranks right up there, the middle name has nothing to do with it. I respectfuly ask TK to make that connection please.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I saw TK told me I was a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot;. not quite hip with the lingo, can you explain what that means.--[[User:Backstop|Backstop]] 18:24, 13 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Aschlafly asked you above: &amp;quot;Obama uses his full name. Why does that bother you?&amp;quot; Now, it is apparent you are not here to help, but rather to pursue your own agenda.  We are not striving here for NPOV, but rather the facts. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:40, 13 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arguments for Obama being a Muslim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While there is enough proof to convince me Obama is a Muslim in the article, but some of these proofs are untrue or misused:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because I am one of them.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama is saying that he is a person who has had &amp;quot;Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country&amp;quot; such as his father and Indonesia. not that he is one of those Muslims. That is my interpetation of this statement.''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''I think that lots of things can be compatible with the modern world (like my Mac!) but does that make me a follower of the Mac necesarily?'' &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class Arabic accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: Allah is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''I think that many Christian prayers are beautiful, and I'm Jewish!''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,[32] which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.[33]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Fareed Zakaria is my favorite author and journalist. I've read his book many times and I'm still not Muslim''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;[38] &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;[39]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Similar things happened for Obama with Hispanics, and I think we all agree Obama is not Hispanic. Maybe Muslims were excited to finaly have a president with a Muslim backround after 8 years of Bush, who they didn't like at all.''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Encyclopedic Setup? ==&lt;br /&gt;
I was wondering if it would be ok to try to re-format this on my talk page to include all the same information in a more encyclopedic manner, because...this article isnt very good right now (no offense intended to the writers) [[User:DerekSmalls|DerekSmalls]] 21:42, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Create a page: User:DerekSmalls/Obama draft and that would be fine. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Admin&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:12, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Derek, forget-about-it if you think you're going to dilute the entry with Wikipedia-style [[placement bias]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:22, 21 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::ok, I'll Try.  Before I start, if i make such an article and you deem it full of placement bias, will I suffer negative side affects?  Because I would rather avoid nefativityt period.  If that makes any sense[[User:DerekSmalls|DerekSmalls]] 18:50, 25 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: &amp;quot;effects&amp;quot;, not &amp;quot;affects&amp;quot;.  We are logical here.  If your proposed substitute is separate from the entry and does not vandalize it, and is not vulgar or otherwise obviously inappropriate, then there will be no negative side effects.  So feel free to make encyclopedic suggestions.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:48, 25 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggest we delete Muslim accusation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest we delete the section claiming President Obgama to be a muslim as this has already been proven to be false. {{unsigned|Michaelkirschner}}&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Likely&amp;quot; doesn't suggest positively a Muslim. I am interested in your proof that has yet to be released to the public. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 17:54, 26 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Michelle was Obama's second marriage?==&lt;br /&gt;
Photo of Barack from 1980 at Occidental College with a wedding ring. [http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/arts/la-me-oxyobama27-2009may27,0,4992416.photogallery?index=3]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:22, 28 May 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Seconded. Either add it here, and/or to Michelle Obama's page. [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Southern Poverty Law Center''' is a left-wing legal and activist [[organization]] created in 1971 in Montgomery, [[Alabama]]. It was founded by trial lawyers Morris Dees and Joe Levin, and its first president was civil rights leader Julian Bond, who would later take control of the NAACP. SPLC supports a wide variety of liberal positions; it is pro-[[immigration]] (both legal and [[illegal immigration|illegal]]), advocates [[multiculturalism]] and the [[homosexual agenda]], supports racial preferences and defendants' rights, and advocates against what it considers &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This &amp;quot;controversial, liberal organization&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/dec98/southern19.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has been criticized in mainstream press for being extravagant in its spending, and using charges of racism to stifle conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=984&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Finances==&lt;br /&gt;
The last year that the [[Better Business Bureau]]'s Philanthropic Advisory Service reported on the SPLC, in 1994, Dees and then Executive Director Edward Ashworth took home over $150,000 each, and the organization then possessed over $62 million in assets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zpub.com/notes/znote-splc.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It now controls over $200 million, and Dees pulls $286,000 in salary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/donate/financialinfo/financial.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2000, SPLC fundraised $27 million and made an additional $17 million from investments, but spent only $13 million on its civil rights program. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is no longer listed in the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=113&amp;amp;id=1bce9b1f-74e9-4c94-96e8-1ee2b519b0c4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; because that would require that &amp;quot;at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&amp;quot; The SPLC spent 89 percent of its total income on fund-raising and administrative costs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/pics_splc_expands.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to donations from liberal members, which are often elicited by sensationalizing hate crimes, the center raises a lot of revenue seizing assets of violent groups, and by extorting groups that do not want to be accused of racism. In 1987, the SPLC won a major case on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, the mother of a Klan lynching victim. This was the invention of a clever new tactic-- suing domestic terrorist groups into bankruptcy-- but Ms. Donald benefitted very little. Of the $7 million verdict, only $50,000 went to her. This was because the Klan chapter had no assets other than a warehouse used as a headquarters, the warehouse itself was valued at about $50,000. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The SPLC's fundraising tactics came under heavy criticism most recently by the Council of Conservative Citizens, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=5108&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as well as by articles in ''Harper's'' magazine in 2000&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Silverstein, Ken.  &amp;quot;The Church of Morris Dees: How the Southern Poverty Law Center Profits from Intolerance&amp;quot;.  ''Harper's'', November, 2000.  http://www.harpers.org/archive/2000/11/0068709&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in the local ''Montgomery Advertiser'' newspaper in 1994.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Morse, Dan and Greg Jaffe. &amp;quot;Critics Question $52 Million Reserve, Tactics of Wealthiest Civil Rights Group&amp;quot;. ''Montgomery Advertiser'', February 13, 1994&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==SPLC attacks on conservatives==&lt;br /&gt;
While SPLC organizes against obvious hate groups such as the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, it also lumps in conservative organizations in an attempt to intimidate them. For instance, SPLC considers Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) a &amp;quot;hate group&amp;quot;, because it opposes illegal immigration, and uses demonstrations as a method, which the SPLC deems intimidation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate&amp;amp;splcnewsletter=panewsgen-121107/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Similarly, the center labels the immigration reductionist/reformist website VDARE as a &amp;quot;hate group&amp;quot;, because it argues against illegal immigration &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/07/freedom-folksblogs4borders-interview-with-peter-brimelow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.   &lt;br /&gt;
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Also smeared as &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot; by the SPLC include: the California Coalition for Immigration Reform, and The Social Contract Press (a liberal group publishing [[environmentalist]] works such as those of [[Garrett Hardin]], apparently solely because they republished French writer [[Jean Raspail]]'s 1973 novel ''The Camp of the Saints'' which foretells catasrophe befalling [[Europe]] from boatloads of illegal immigrants arriving from South Asia).&lt;br /&gt;
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Another example is the Council of Convservative Citizens, a conservative activist organization that advocates on behalf of states' rights and against immigration, communism, racial quotas and gun control. SPLC labels all members as racist because a minority of members had decades-past connections to segregationist organizations. In fact, the CCC attracts such mainstream speakers such as former Sen. [[Trent Lott]] (R-Miss.), Gov. [[Kirk Fordice]] (R-MS) and Rep. [[Bob Barr]] (R-Ga.), and engages in charitable and cultural events.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The SPLC has also recently added new categories to its categories of &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;, including Traditionalist [[Catholic]]s (that is, those who advocate for a return to the [[Latin]] [[Mass]]), and an &amp;quot;anti-gay&amp;quot; category of groups who do not support the homosexual agenda and/or advocate for homosexuals to come out of that lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
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During the 1990s, the SPLC maintained a separate list of &amp;quot;patriot groups&amp;quot;, which although they did not include them as part of their &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot; list, carried the same intent: to [[guilt by association|smear those groups by association]], and create the public impression those groups were some sort of threat to society.  Their &amp;quot;patriot groups&amp;quot; list included groups opposed to the [[income tax]], groups campaigning for jury and court reform, and the venerable conservative organization the [[John Birch Society]], among others.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Infiltration into the classroom==&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the SPLC runs tolerance.org, a website that advocates multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda and &amp;quot;social justice&amp;quot;. It is designed with teachers in mind so that these ideas can influence young children in the classroom &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/activities/index.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For instance, teachers can click &amp;quot;classroom activities&amp;quot; then &amp;quot;early grades&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Tolerance Issues: Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual issues:&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;tolerance issues: Gender Issues&amp;quot; and arrive at a pro-alternative family article, among others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/current/event.jsp?cid=305&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its magazine is sent to over 400,000 eduators, and over 10,000 schools participate in its programs.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Interference in the Sierra Club==&lt;br /&gt;
In early 2004, Morris Dees filed to run as a candidate for the board of directors of the [[Sierra Club]], an [[environmentalist]] organization.  Dees', who has no background in environmental issues at all, ran only to use his ballot statement to smear three other candidates for the Sierra Club board, who advocated the Sierra Club address the environmental impact of excessive legal and illegal immigration into the United States.  Dees and two other fake board candidates were part of a broader smear campaign by the radical left, which also included [[MoveOn.org]].  Dees, MoveOn, and others smeared these three candidates, all of whom were staunch liberals and environmentalists (one of them, former [[Democratic Party|Democratic]] governor of [[Colorado]], [[Richard Lamm]]) solely because they understood excessive immigration numbers to be an environmental issue.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For much background and material on the takeover of the Sierra Club in 2004 by radical pro-immigration and [[political correctness]] advocates, including Dees' role as a fake board candidate, see http://sierrademocracy.org/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Cooperation with law enforcement==&lt;br /&gt;
The SPLC has been criticized by civil rights writer Laird Wilcox for essentially functioning as a private intelligence gathering agency for the [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]] and other [[law enforcement]] agencies, doing activities as a private organization that public law enforcement agencies are barred by law from doing (such as keeping dossiers on people solely because of their political or religious views) because for a government agency to do them would be a violation of [[civil rights]].  Wilcox points out the dangers of the FBI and other law enforcement working with ideologically-driven groups like the SPLC, which has its roots in 1960s radical liberal activism, because of the danger this poses that the SPLC's own ideological differences with another group can be treated as a law enforcement issue rather than as an ideological dispute between a left-wing group (the SPLC) and a group on the right.  This can, and has, led to attacks on such groups' freedom of speech and freedom of assembly.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wilcox, Laird.  ''The Watchdogs''.  Olathe, Kansas: Editorial Research Service, 1999.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Indeed, the SPLC has a history of adding groups to its listing of purported &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot; in advance of a government law enforcement campaign against them.  The SPLC inexplicably added the [[Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints]] (FLDS) to its &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot; list just before FLDS leader Warren Jeffs was indicted on charges of arranging [[polygamy|polygamous]] underage marriages.  The timing of this listing by SPLC was suspicious, as is the accuracy of calling FLDS a &amp;quot;hate group&amp;quot; to begin with, any controversy over their polygamous practices notwithstanding.&lt;br /&gt;
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==''Into the Mainstream'' controversy==&lt;br /&gt;
In the summer of 2003, the SPLC's ''Intelligence Journal'' carried a feature article entitled &amp;quot;Into the Mainstream&amp;quot;, by [[Chip Berlet]].  The cover of the journal had an image of [[Adolf Hitler]] in front of the [[American flag]] and the caption, &amp;quot;Marching toward the Mainstream: the radical Right invades American culture&amp;quot;.  The implication was that such conservative activists as [[David Horowitz]] and his [[Center for the Study of Popular Culture]], as well as other groups including the [[libertarian]] Ludwig von Mises Institute, were &amp;quot;radical right&amp;quot; and Hitlerian.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kantor, Myles.  &amp;quot;Morris Dees' Defamation&amp;quot;.  ''FrontPage magazine'', September 25, 2003.  http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=52878574-A7B7-4885-A6F9-58C15841D70C&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This smear was denounced by David Horowitz, who demanded an apology, although none was forthcoming.&lt;br /&gt;
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For further details see [[Chip_Berlet#Hate_speech]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==SPLC as film critic==&lt;br /&gt;
The SPLC has published criticisms of [[movie]]s they deem to be not [[politically correct]], often smearing the filmmakers in the process and portraying them to be part of a purported &amp;quot;radical right&amp;quot; conspiracy to influence the culture.  Films the SPLC has criticized in this manner include [[Ronald Maxwell]]'s [[American Civil War]] epics ''Gettysburg'' (1993) and ''Gods and Generals'' (2003), and [[Mel Gibson]]'s 2004 film ''[[The Passion of the Christ]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Center for Democratic Renewal]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Black church-burning hoax]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Essay:The Protocols of Ritual Defamation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>User talk:MikeMike</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Why did you revert my edit [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Barack_Obama&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=550861] to the Obama page? did you really think that a question mark belongs in an encyclopedia?  --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 15:08, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It was a clumsy accident. sorry.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: reverted liberal censorship&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (born in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu report]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the [[Democrat]] junior senator from Illinois (2004 - present) and president-elect of the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_wins_presidency/2008/11/04/147788.html?utm_medium=RSS]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On November 4, Obama became the first negro president in American history, when he and running mate [[Senator Joseph Biden]] won the 2008 Election over veteran Arizona Senator [[John McCain]], after spending a record-shattering $650 million.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_fundraisng/2008/11/05/148218.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He will be sworn in as the 44th President on January 20, 2009, the first with Muslim, not Christian origins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama pretends he's not a socialist, but his own memoir admits that he chose his &amp;quot;friends carefully .... The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obama-affinity-marxists-dates-college-days/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He was previously a member of a socialist political party, and appears to have strong socialist tendencies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;WorldNetDaily.com, ''Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party, Democrat's campaign denied allegations, but new evidence indicates membership'', October 24, 2008, by Aaron Klein [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78945]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The October 2008 crimes against Academy Award winner Jennifer Hudson's family highlight Obama's record against law and order, as he voted against making it a crime in Illinois &amp;quot;for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-crime-votes-are-fodder-for-rivals-2007-03-13.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The person of interest in the murders of Hudson's mother, brother, and 7-year-old nephew is the estranged husband of Hudson's sister and a convicted felon who had violated his parole conditions. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-julian-king-autopsy-1029,0,2752431.story]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;quot;'We've got 75,000 gang members - that's almost six gang members to one police officer.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;More people have been murdered in Chicago this year than in New York - even though New York's population is three times greater. When Hudson's mother, brother and nephew were killed last month, they pushed the city's homicide total for the year to 436 and counting. New York has had 430 homicides.&amp;quot; [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/01/2008-11-01_chicago_buried_in_murders.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]]. [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html See Video] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's nuclear weapons.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/obama-associate-bill-ayers-unrepentant-for-acts-of-terror/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Author and blogger Jack Cashill compared the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barak Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayres had ghostwritten Dreams.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;www.cashill.com, ''Who Wrote “Dreams From My Father&amp;quot;?'', by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008 [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm] Jack Cashill compared the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barack Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayers had ghostwritten ''Dreams''.  Cashill states that a computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed.  He did not address the possibility that Ayers had plagiarized from Obama's earlier book.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=77815]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dr. Peter Millican, who was hired to do a computer analysis comparing the two works, called the charges &amp;quot;very implausible&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/02/report-professor-paid-g-prove-ayers-wrote-obamas-autobiography/comments/]&amp;quot;Dr. Peter Millican -- a distinguished philosophy professor at Hertford College in Oxford, England -- ... was reportedly paid to use a computer software program to find suspected similarities between Obama's best-selling 2004 autobiography &amp;quot;Dreams from My Father&amp;quot; and Ayers' memoir &amp;quot;Fugitive Days.&amp;quot;  But Millican called the charges &amp;quot;very implausible&amp;quot; after a preliminary review of the two works.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Ayers admitted that he was &amp;quot;guilty as hell&amp;quot; in planting bombs in the 1970s, and that he has no regrets and felt he &amp;quot;should have done more.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver, where Obama received his Democratic Party nomination, recently criticized Obama as the &amp;quot;most committed&amp;quot; [[abortion]]-supporting candidate &amp;quot;since the ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' abortion decision in 1973.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14088&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, Obama was upset with the decision of the [[United States Supreme Court|Supreme Court]] not to strike down the law passed by the [[United States Congress]] to prohibit partial-birth abortion, believing that partial-birth abortion is guaranteed right of the [[United States Constitution|Constitution]] and that there should be no ability to legislate against it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doctors from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons have stated that Obama uses techniques of mind control in his speeches and campaign symbols.  For example, one speech declared, &amp;quot;a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The doctors observe that &amp;quot;Obama's logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation ... [that] resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama will likely be the first Muslim President==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|thumb|First Muslim President?]]&lt;br /&gt;
President-elect Obama will likely become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]], and may use the [[Koran]] to be sworn into office at his inauguration on [[January]] 20, 2009.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christian Science Monitor, ''At swearing in, congressman [Keith Ellison, D Minnesota, who is a Muslim] wants to carry Koran. Outrage ensues.'', by Jane Lampman, December 07, 2006, retrieved on 10/16/2008  [http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1207/p01s03-uspo.html]&amp;quot;In Congress, newly elected representatives do not put their left hands on any book. They raise their right hands, and are sworn in together as the speaker of the House administers the oath of office. Some do carry a book, according to House historians, and some choose to photograph a private swearing-in afterward with their hand on the Bible.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama hoped to become President when he was sworn in as U.S. Senator in 2004, and did not use a Koran at that time.  Subsequently Democratic House member Keith Ellison established the precedent for being sworn in using the Koran, and there is no guarantee that Obama would not do likewise if sworn in as President. [http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html FactCheck.org, Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, ''Sliming Obama'', January 10, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The evidence that he is a Muslim includes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background, education, and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]], which most Christians would not retain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Oxford Dictionary of First Names, 2nd edition (2007).[http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/277459/al-Husayn-ibn-Ali].  Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Many of Obama's statements about religion conflict with Christianity, leading one group to demonstrate with a 7-part video series, &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is Not a Christian.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianadc.org/pages/page.asp?page_id=23073&amp;amp;articleId=3249&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 million man march led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9291850 Louis Farrakhan Biography] Biography.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has consistently shown himself to be an elitist who looks down on &amp;quot;ordinary&amp;quot; Americans.  Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama did not recount his statement but instead replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although many rural counties went for McCain, Obama carried the state with 54.6% of the vote, compared to 44.3% for John McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&amp;amp;ElectionID=28&amp;amp;OfficeID=1]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In an attempt counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim is at best an exaggeration, as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Daily Standard, ''Obama Unplugged Lost without a Teleprompter'', by Dean Barnett, 02/12/2008[http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Insights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams from My Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Socialism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has espoused the socialist idea of &amp;quot;spreading the wealth&amp;quot; in other words raising the tax rates on business and the wealthy to a burdensome level in order to redistribute their income to low income individuals, many of whom don't currently pay taxes. From which John McCain replied &amp;quot;He's running for redistributor in chief, I'm running for commander in chief.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/mccain-hungry-upset-obama-eyes-landslide/ McCain Attacks Obama's Faith in Americans] Fox News, 10-31-2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The slogan &amp;quot;From each according to their ability to each according to their need&amp;quot; is an idea originally proposed by [[Karl Marx]].  In addition, his health care plan forces employers to purchase health care or pay a fine and will force many into a poorly run single payer system.  The socialization of health care will force taxpayers to pay for healthcare for those who refuse to purchase it themselves.  He favors closer ties with Cuba, China, and Venezuela, all abusive communist regimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the years 2000 through 2004, before becoming a United States Senator and being in the public spotlight, Obama gave 1% of his earnings to charity even though he made $250,000 per year.  Since becoming a national figure, that amount has jumped to 6%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://patterico.com/2008/10/31/obama-and-bidens-charitable-giving-they-dont-want-to-spread-their-own-wealth-around/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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At the end of October 2008 it came to light that Obama's aunt is in the United States illegally and has been since 2004 when her request for asylum was turned down.  She is living in public housing in Boston paid for by the government.  It does bring up why it took so long for this to surface and how Obama would handle the issue of illegal immigration as President if his own extended family flaunts the law and, of course, what did Obama himself know?&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680 Obama's Aunt Living in US Illegally]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Obama campaign has since stated that they had no knowledge of this situation and that they would return the money that she gave to his campaign. It is illegal to accept money from people who are not United States citizens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/01/obama.aunt/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Statements==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II is said to have been born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961, but there is some evidence that he may have actually been born in Kenya. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking regarding his knowledge of the Afghanistan conflict, Obama points the finger at U.S. troops and American policy &amp;quot;...just airraiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293365,00.html Barack Obama Caught on Tape Accusing U.S. Troops of 'Killing Civilians'] Fox News, August 15, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY See Video]&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
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# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Harvard]] College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
# Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)&lt;br /&gt;
# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
# Record of baptism&lt;br /&gt;
# Selective Service Registration&lt;br /&gt;
# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
# Scholarly articles&lt;br /&gt;
# Access to his Grandmother (Obama's Grandmother has since passed away from cancer [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g3m4YaeYwDHXS6hHdZJi8pm6cZdAD947RJKO0])&lt;br /&gt;
# List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, John McCain's wife Cindy noted that Obama is running &amp;quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &amp;quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&amp;quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &amp;quot;...never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with a subtle reference to Alzheimer's disease when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &amp;quot;lost his bearings&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &amp;quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of the biggest distortions by Obama is that 95% of all taxpayers will get a tax cut. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama's 95% Illusion] Wall Steet Journal, October 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Without the distortion, Obama is proposing income re-distribution because those families that pay no taxes, one-third, will get money from the wealthy top 5%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another feature of the Obama campaign is the unruly audience. CNN reported in October of 2008 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3565842635.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, that people are calling John McCain a terrorist at these events. According to Sen. McCain, &amp;quot;I've heard the [label terrorist], unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element.&amp;quot; Other eyewitness reports are harsher &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://theinvigilator.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-front-of-disgust.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]].  The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist that she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well. Moreover, as a child I rarely came in contact with those who might offer a substantially different view of faith. My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.&lt;br /&gt;
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And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known. She had an unswerving instinct for kindness, charity, and love, and spent much of her life acting on that instinct, sometimes to her detriment. Without the help of religious texts or outside authorities, she worked mightily to instill in me the values that many Americans learn in Sunday school: honesty, empathy, discipline, delayed gratification, and hard work. She raged at poverty and injustice.}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579-4,00.html My Spiritual Journey] Time Magazine, October 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers) ISBN 0307383415&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama) ISBN 0307455874&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak) ISBN 0786720573&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025&lt;br /&gt;
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==Published criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
During  the democratic primaries the Clinton Campaign lead a smear campaign against the validity of Barrack Obama's Hawaii Birth cirtificate, claiming that it is false and that he is intelligible for presidency. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, some analysts claim that the birth certificate is false.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. The &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; which have not been shown to exist do not violate any constitutional or legal precedents and would make Sen. Obama a poor choice for president, not an invalid choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and paying a number of legal fees and taking several days out of his busy campaigning schedule the Obama campaign had the case dropped on the grounds that it lacked any supporting evidence. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=10815605&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The fact that Mr. Berg's dual arguments were mutually contradictory may also have contributed.&lt;br /&gt;
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The state of Hawaii announced that the document is legitimate and official, Since the state of Hawaii is the issuing body they have ultimate authority with regards to the matter.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; If states are no longer regarded as a valid authority on citizenship of those born within them then no one is eligible for president because no one can prove that they are natural born citizens.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Honorable James David Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Party]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.barackobama.com/ Offical Obama for President Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disgusted Conservative ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've voted Republican in every election since 1960, but I'm absolutely disgusted by this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to the dignity of our party under Goldwater and Reagan? This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; page is just one long rant. &lt;br /&gt;
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Are there any real conservatives out there willing to present objective, factual criticism of Obama? God knows there are enough valid arguments to make. Why are we channeling Michael Savage rather than William Buckley? Currently this page makes me cry for my party.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like disgusted conservative is voting for BO. I happen to think it is an accurate account of a man that is dishonest. Where will you get the real picture about about if not here? Are you disgusted by Wikipedias article? How about the coverage on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, LATimes, WaPo, NYT, Google, The Guardian. Why not be mad and except that the majority of America is being fooled? Why not be mad at someone as disgusting as BO, actually has a real chance to take the Presidency and doesn't deserve it IN THE LEAST? Reagan is rolling over in his grave and so all the Founders.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Voting Republican again this year. I know you're mad about what's going on, but it shows throughout the page. An encyclopedia can't be written from an angry point of view. Let me be specific:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot; plus &amp;quot;Obama and Islam&amp;quot; are not valid main introductory sections. Start with his early life.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) His birth certificate gets its own section but his healthcare and tax plans don't? Focus on what's really important.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section is just a list of criticisms and belongs under a &amp;quot;Criticism&amp;quot; section. Categorize corectly.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Off-topic side-swipes: &amp;quot;He became a member of the Harvard Law Review, which uses racial quotas, in 1989&amp;quot;. Why is &amp;quot;which uses racial quotas&amp;quot; in there? If it was a reason that he was chosen, say that. If it wasn't leave it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Unsubstantiated claims: &amp;quot;Obama's campaign has been financed largely by leftist donors opposed to the war and to the American military in general.&amp;quot; Citation definitely needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have several good sections in here: &amp;quot;Senate career&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Foreign policy experience&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Published criticism&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Religious affiliations&amp;quot;. These are high-quality and reflect well on Conservapedia. The others do not.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the reply from hsmom below as the kind of constructive, factual accuracy this page needs.&lt;br /&gt;
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::This sounds like you're standard liberal bellyaching.  The fact is that no real conservative Christian can vote for this man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::??!?! Trying to hold this article to some kind of standard is bellyaching? Would you like to address any of my points?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Your points is liberal talking points.  The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama wants to talk with Iran without predeterminations, flip flops, and is close friends to an unrepentive TERRORIST.  What more can you know?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Trying to shift the focus on an ''encyclopedia page'' about a presidential candidate from hypothetical statements (his possible Islamic faith) and trivial matters (his birth certificate), to his actual stance on the issues is liberal bellyaching? If anything, we should be casting aside these trivial circumstances as beneath us and take the time to dissect each of his stances on the actual issues. That's what a real, dignified Conservative would do. Relying on ridiculous tactics such as these is asinine and cowardly. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 16:21, 9 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Disgusted Conservative, sadly you are only wasting your time.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama's pastor of twenty-years, Rev. Wright, was originally a member with the Nation of Islam (likely always has been, see [[taqiyya]])''  Let's be careful not to confuse the Nation of Islam with the traditional Muslim faith - they are two quite different things. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:10, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: What differences do you find so compelling?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:15, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't know that I'd use the word &amp;quot;compelling&amp;quot;; I don't know a whole lot about either faith.  I do know that they're quite different.  The Nation of Islam was started in Detroit in the 1930's as something of a black empowerment/separatist movement - it's a very race-based group, from what I understand, and (in what I would consider a cult-like way) based largely on the teachings of two or three men, who are considered more-or-less prophets.  It's been portrayed in the media as very racist and anti-Semitic, though I don't know enough about it to know how accurate that is.  It's a uniquely American faith.  Traditional Islam is quite a different thing - it's been around for thousands of years.  Malcolm X, for example, became a member of NOI in prison, then, due to disillusionment brought on by NOI leader/prophet Elijah Mohamed's adultery, converted to traditional Islam.  I have assumed that when you say that you believe that Barak Obama is a Muslim, you are referring to traditional Islam, right? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:37, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.  Are you saying that NOI adherents do not pray and submit to Allah?  I'm sure they do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:52, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::''Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.''  No, I wouldn't put it that way.  I wouldn't consider NOI to be Islam.  As I understand it, I think they are two fundamentally different faiths, though NOI has some trappings borrowed from traditional Islam, as well as some borrowed from Christianity.  NOI believes, among other things, &amp;quot;that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited &amp;quot;Messiah&amp;quot; of the Christians and the &amp;quot;Mahdi&amp;quot; of the Muslims.&amp;quot;[http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm]  As I understand it, when NOI members pray to Allah, they mean (at least in part) W. Fard Muhammad (the founder of NOI).  Wheras of course traditional Muslims don't include anything about W. Fard Muhammad in their beliefs, nor do they recognize NOI as a Muslim denomination.  (Christians don't believe W. Fard Muhammad is the Messiah either, obviously.)  NOI is a uniquely American black separatist movement.  I believe it's quite a different faith from traditional Islam.  Maybe I was wrong about assuming you think Barak Obama is a traditional Muslim?  Do you think Barak Obama is a member of the NOI?  That would lead to quite different concerns; as I understand it, the NOI wants, among other things, quite substantial reparations for slavery. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The Nation of Islam's relationship to Christianity is similar to the relationship of Christianity to Judaism.  They use the same texts (to some extent), and have practices that are shared with and developed out of the other - but such distortions take place that one is clearly no longer the other.  It's not even about &amp;quot;not being mainstream&amp;quot;, it's about that place and time when one religion truly ceases to be it's parent religion.  You would be fully inaccurate to call a christian merely a &amp;quot;Jesus loving Jew&amp;quot;.  Christianity became its own religion in the year 30 (give or take) when our Lord died and rose for us.  For the Nation of Islam, with the Prophet Elijah claiming to be the reincarnation of Mohammad, they cease to be merely &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; and become their own religion.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 11:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==57 Islamic states==&lt;br /&gt;
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I attempted to make this article better by noting, as several other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; could be a reference to Heinz ketchup or simple a misstatement (Obama had visited 47 states), as well as the fact that there were not 57 Islamic states when Obama attended an Indonesian school. It was reverted. Why? Is this an encyclopedia, or a liberal hate blog? [[User:Egen|Egen]] 10:42, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your edit was baseless, and probably politically motivated.  The entry is factual and will remain that way.  Obama has likely remained a Muslim long after attending grade school.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On the subject, I think someone should add the following line to your page: &amp;quot;The odds against Aschlafly's claim to be named 'Andrew Schlafly' being truthful are less than 1 billion to one, as fewer than 6 people in the world are named Andrew Schlafly.&amp;quot; Don't put malarkey like this on a serious encyclopedia page and defend it as being &amp;quot;factual&amp;quot;. I remind you of Conservapedia Commandments 1, 2, and 5. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 11:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In any case, I fail to see how it is &amp;quot;baseless&amp;quot; to note, as other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; cannot possibly be a reference to &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; and probably has a more benign origin. It does not to any good to assert that anyone who disagrees with you probably does so because they are &amp;quot;politically motivated&amp;quot; (read: liberal) when many conservatives have expressed disdain for this point. I doubt that the majority of Conservapedia editors would disagree with my edit. This encyclopedia is not a personal blog for you or for anyone else. Therefore, I am reinserting the edit. If anyone can provide proof that Obama was referring to the &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; which did not exist when he was growing up '''and''' provide proof that that is what he was referring to, I'll retract this. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 12:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Egen - I entirely agree with you. A lot of people here think this is a redstate comments thread rather than, as it says in the top left corner, &amp;quot;the trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot;. Snopes on this one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed the mention of the 57 states, since the article later refers to a source that says that it was probably a misstatement as he has in fact visited 47 states. &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;unsigned JohnFA&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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      Jpatt - Why should it? It's repeated later on in the article where it is also explained. This statement is redundant since it doesn't even have a source.&lt;br /&gt;
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I added the fact that there were not 57 states when he went to school in indonesia, if we are going to mention that he went to an islamic school we are implying that that is where he learned about the 57 states, this is impossible and that should be noted. People will reference conservapedia and if they reference that he visited the 57 islamic states or that he learned about there being 57 islamic states in islamic school they will look like fools.--[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:06, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Right now, the implication made about Obama's gaff and &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; indicates the United States.  If it's about Indonesia, then state Indonesia, as well as prove that Indonesia is divided into 57 states.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:12, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I double-checked the references provided, one of which has a video of Obama himself doing the gaff; it may have been a minor slip of the tounge or a minor mistake, but not once was there a reference to visiting Islamic states or countries.  He specified visiting 57 ''U.S. states''.  The article was changed to reflect that fact, and the speculation on Islamic states was removed.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:23, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I wanted to do that but I figured I would just get reverted. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:53, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'll let you take credit then for the fixing, or at least getting it started :)  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:57, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this site supposed to be unbaised?-[[User:Red4tribe|Red4tribe]] 16:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;born, allegedly, in Honolulu&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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there's no doubt he was ''born''. that should read &amp;quot;allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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God bless. [[User:JohnBarma|JohnBarma]] 13:30, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As the previous poster said, &amp;quot;(born, allegedly, in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;, implies that he may not have been born, which I think is not what is intended.  &amp;quot;Allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot; has the same problem.  Putting aside whether or not the &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; is silly (and frankly I think the factcheck.org folks debunked this one), if you want to convey the idea that he was born, but may have been born somewhere other than Hawaii, then it should read &amp;quot;(born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;.  Comma placement matters. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 20:58, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is my understanding from a recent article on Fox that the form presented lists him as &amp;quot;African&amp;quot;.  This was 1961.  The concept of African-American or any reference to African in racial makeup, while very prevalent in the last 15+ years, was still more than 20 years off.  Birth certificates in 1961 used &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot;.  I'm surprised this isn't mentioned anywhere. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:19, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just finished reading Dreams from My Father. I don't recommend it. But one thing I missed was a reference to Malcolm X being Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot;. He speaks highly of Malcolm X's autobiography, but doesn't like the &amp;quot;religious baggage&amp;quot; that the guy &amp;quot;discarded in later life&amp;quot;. Is the reference here correct? [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 17:10, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Search Google on {&amp;quot;Malcolm X&amp;quot; Obama favorite} and you'll find numerous credible confirmations of the statement about Malcolm X being Obama's favorite black leader.  The entry need not be limited to the silly Dreams book.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:03, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not really seeing it. Various claims Obama loves Malcolm X's autobiography (which, subject to the point above, seems correct), but the claims that he is Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot; all cite no reference, or cite Dreams - I think incorrectly. Is there a source for Obama having said or written this? If not, it should go. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 18:12, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree that it should be sourced, preferably with a quote from his book or one of his speeches, otherwise it could be mistaken for an untrue rumor.  If he qualified the statement with something about X's religion, as Marcdaniels noted above, that should be included in the quote.  I looked for a credible source, but couldn't find one.  I have added a fact tag, which can be removed when a suitable citation is found. (Let's not forget that Malcolm X was involved with the Nation of Islam, which is quite a different thing than traditional Islam.  He rejected the Nation of Islam later in life.)--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:13, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Examples supporting the statement are easy to find.  I just added one.  I don't think anyone seriously doubts the truth of the statement.  Feel free to find and add other citations supporting it.  The discomfort expressed above seems to be with the fact itself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Your source goes back to the book, which I'd thought we'd both agreed wasn't on point. It's entirely plausible that Obama might regard Malcolm X as his favorite black leader, and that would discomfort me in the slightest, but I'm having real difficulty finding any evidence that he has said or written this. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 07:40, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, you've misread me now.  I did not agree that book wasn't on point.  I did say there is further evidence beyond the book, which is easy to find on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: The quote from the book is convincing enough.  If you won't accept it, then I doubt you would accept anything now.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I am now a little confused, and I'm not sure why you are getting personal. You suggested there were additional sources for the claim on the internet, other than those referring to the book, but I cannot find one. I may be missing something obvious - would be helpful if you could provide a link. The book shows Malcolm X's autobiography to have been Obama's favourite autobiography, and it would be accurate to say that, but anything further seems supposition rather than fact. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 11:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;if elected, Obama will become the first black, and possibly Muslim, President of the United States.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's the problem with this sentence in place of the one currently there? For starters, it isn't proven that he's Muslim, but it ''is'' proven that he's black, so certainly it should be mentioned over the hypothetical. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The racial composition of all the past presidents is not completely known, so I doubt it's appropriate to insist that Obama would be the '''first''' black President.  Also, the racial composition of a man is not as important as his beliefs.  It is known that none of the prior presidents were Muslim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well said, Aschlafly.  It is the content of a person's character that should determine how we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; them.  Although, who are we to judge?  I suspect, however, looking at the photos, that Senator Obama would at least be the first President (if elected) with a clear [[African American]] heritage.  Whether a few others may have had a lineage leading back to Africa in their family tree is another, albeit interesting, question. [[User:Human|Human]] 23:16, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's an interesting argument. If we know so little about the former presidents that we cannot say whether any of them met society's contemporaneous definition of Black - the one-drop rule, for example - then how can we say than none of them were Muslim? If they could keep their African ancestry secret, why not their true religion? Is there evidence of political opponents accusing a candidate of being of mixed-blood ancestry?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 23:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: As to whether past presidents were Muslims, simply look at what they did and said ... including before they became politically ambitious.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:33, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot;, or at least &amp;quot;decide&amp;quot; when we vote.  However, when did &amp;quot;judge not... [lest ye be judged]&amp;quot; become a &amp;quot;liberal canard&amp;quot;?  I thought it was a warning in the Bible not to overstep our bounds?  Voting, of course, does not overstep them - we pencil in a space, or pull a lever.  That is not &amp;quot;judgment&amp;quot;, it is an expression of personal opinion or preference or ideas.  Moving beyond that simple step, however, leads us into judgment territory, potentially.  When we should be humble and add commentary on ourselves as well as those we judge is an issue of personal ethics - or morality.  A good time to sit down with good words and contemplate. [[User:Human|Human]] 01:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like someone to please explain to me how this is unbais? At least with the article you can try to make something up saying how its unbais but the main picture is trying to show very obviouisly that Obama is unpatriotic... If you look at McCains page or Palins the picture of professionally done. Please someone give me a reasonable answer [[User talk:Horriblesite]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Funny you should comment. Is it Conservapedia making Obama unpatriotic or is it Obama who IS unpatriotic? I will say the latter.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, &amp;quot;unbais&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;professionally done&amp;quot; are Liberal canards. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Are these the same thing? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 15:34, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing that bothers me about Obama is the comments attributed to his wife. 1. That it was the first time she was proud of america and 2.That black children had no future in america. Both she and her husband are examples of how well a black child can do so its hard to understand why she has that view. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 16:38, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::See similar comments from John McCain: http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/06/mccain-it-can-be-%E2%80%9Ctough%E2%80%9D-to-be-proud-of-usa/   “I’ll admit to you … that it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said when asked by a questioner at a town hall meeting how to be proud of the country. “We have not always done things right and we mismanaged the war in Iraq very badly for nearly four years.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect this very obvious fake photo (look at how small the two women are compared to the chairs behind them, check out the flag's edges itself and what exactly is holding it up) was placed here by people hoping to discredit Conservapedia. I understand a popular activity among liberals and vandals is to insert things seeming to support Conservative and Christian values, but that are either extreme or fake, and so undermine the encyclopedia as a whole.--[[User:TruthOfChrist|TruthOfChrist]] 11:11, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It isn't fake.  Many other photos of this occasion exist.  Video, too.  The goofy-looking perspective is an artifact of the angle and lens used. --[[User:XavierJ|XavierJ]] 12:29, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==birth certificate lawsuit number 2==&lt;br /&gt;
In a second lawsuit challenging Barack Obama's &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot; citizenship, a Washington resident is demanding officials review original or certified birth documents for the Democratic Party presidential candidate.&lt;br /&gt;
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:See my analysis of this on this Talk Page, point 58: &amp;quot;Barack raises the bar&amp;quot;. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:25, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- The first sentence says Obama was born in Hawaii.  At first I was under the impression that someone decided to act in a competent manner and remove the baseless innuendo about his place of birth.  Alas I was mistaken because later in the article the word 'alleged' is still used.  I thought all reasonable people would presume that a document from the State of Hawaii would suffice to prove one's citizenship instead of using the rants of the lunatic fringe.&lt;br /&gt;
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: A lawsuit has been filed by someone seeking the real birth certificate.  Complain to him, and explain why it still apparently has not been produced.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The state of Hawaii is not just going to let anybody get a copy of Obama's birth certificate, let alone his original.  I can't even get my hands on my own original birth certificate and I'll bet neither can you.  A certified copy of Obama's birth certificate has been provided for anyone to look at.  If this copy is good enough for our government officials that are not part of the lunatic fringe, then why isn't it good enough for Conservapedia?  I'd like to think Conservapedia is not aligning itself with the likes of the people filing these nonsense lawsuits.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama only attended religious schools until he reached the age of ten (Islamic and Catholic).  The rest of his education from Punahou School, Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard was nonsectarian.  Clearly the vast majority of his education was non-religious. [[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Obama's formative years were spend being indoctrinated in Islam.  Less than 1% convert to Christianity after that experience.  Enough said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was never under the impression that a person's formative years stopped at the age of ten.  According to you, Obama shouldn't be a liberal because he attended conservative religious schools during his alleged formative years, 6 - 10.  How is it that he is now a liberal after living another 35+ years and attending an ivy-league college?  You are also ignoring his years in a Catholic school during his time in Indonesia.  Why?  If he spent two of his formative years at a Catholic school, shouldn't he be a Catholic?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Malcom X was not THE leader of the Nation of Islam, he was A leader.  There is a distinct difference. [[http://www.finalcall.com/national/savioursday2k/hem_nation.htm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Nitpicking here.  I'll change &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; for you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Don't do it for me, do it for the reputation of Conservapedia.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama was baptized in 1988, the same year he started attending Harvard.  If there is a reference stating he was baptized prior to his political ambitions, please post it.  [[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1988 makes no sense, as no one ever saw any Christian behavior or church attendance by Obama at law school from 1988 to 1991.  Post his baptismal certificate.  You can't and neither can Obama.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why doesn't 1988 make any sense?  Was there a problem with my reference?  Are you able to provide reputable evidence that Obama's baptism didn't occur in 1988?  Just because a person doesn't attend church on a regular basis or hardly at all is not a reason to deny someone's baptism.  Elsewhere in this article is criticism directed at Obama's CHRISTIAN pastor of 20 years.  Either Obama is a Christian that attended a Christian church for 20 years or he is not.  If he is a Muslim, then why all the fuss about his Christian pastor of 20 years?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: It adds to the evidence.  If Obama were reading the Bible, then that would detract from the evidence.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama does read his Bible and has encouraged others to do so as well.  Would like a reference?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Roosevelt communicated with America's enemies.  After the outbreak of WW II, Roosevelt was negotiating with the Japanese.  Things didn't go well and the Japanese were embargoed, thus losing most of their import capability including over 90% of their oil supplies. [[http://www.fff.org/freedom/1291c.asp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your point is lacking here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::In reference to Obama saying we should talk to our enemies, the following claim was made, &amp;quot;Roosevelt spoke with none of the Axis or Japanese leaders and the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender.&amp;quot;  Roosevelt and members of his administration talked to our enemies, the reference provided by the article was written by a columnist with a distinct lack of historical credibility.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- If Obama' likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students', then which scholarships were they?  Could a reference at least be provided?&lt;br /&gt;
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: You tell us.  Obama won't disclose who paid for his education.  He claimed he worked his way through school, but that was disproved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why should I tell you?  The claim was made in the article without a shred of evidence to back it up.  I do happen to know that the Obama's used college loans to pay for much of their schooling and they only just recently paid them off with the proceeds from his books.  Since someone writing for Conservapedia is making the incredible claim that Obama was somehow able to acquire loans not available to most others, shouldn't a reference be provided so the claim will withstand scrutiny? --[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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- Any chance a reference could be provided for the claim concerning the flag pin?  The way it reads now makes the entry look like partisan whining.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Be clearer.  No one denies Obama avoided wearing a flag pin as he catered to the anti-war crowd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The claim, ' Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering' was made without a reference.  Any chance this opinion could be verified so the article doesn't sound like a smear?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The general tone of the article makes it look like a partisan smear campaign, not the encyclopedic scholarly work Conservapedia alleges to produce.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 17:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.''  I think this statement needs to be tweaked a bit.  While it's true that Malcolm X was a leader in the Nation of Islam (a radical black separatist group, not to be confused with the traditional Islam faith), by the time he wrote his autobiography (as told to Alex Haley, of Roots fame), he had rejected the Nation of Islam and converted to traditional Islam.  If Obama was inspired by the book to take up Malcolm's religion (which is a stretch, IMHO, as lots of people have read this book and not become Muslims), he would most likely have chosen traditional Islam like Malcolm did.  I think it's important to make that distinction clear.  (Unless this item is intended to suggest that Obama is a member of the Nation of Islam?  If so, it should be in a different section, as it's quite a different claim.)  FWIW, Malcolm X was assassinated in 1965, four years after Obama's birth.  Also, the title of the book is ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X''.  So I suggest this item be changed to something like:&lt;br /&gt;
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== Obamas Grandmother==&lt;br /&gt;
Breaking news, Americans still forbidden to speak with Obamas grandmother. Now, we may never. Democrat Barack Obama is canceling nearly all his campaign events Thursday and Friday to fly to Hawaii to visit his suddenly ill 86-year-old grandmother.&lt;br /&gt;
Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters Monday that Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, who helped raise him, was released from the hospital late last week. But he says her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggesting corrections to 'atom bomb' sentance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should not say &amp;quot;atom bombs&amp;quot; because this is slang expression. It should be &amp;quot;atomic bombs&amp;quot; except since 1960s it usually is said &amp;quot;nuclear bombs&amp;quot; and even then there are other weapons from bombs (missles are not bombs, then there are torpedoes and so on) so it should say &amp;quot;nuclear weapons.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally and this is just style, I do not like the '''Bold text''', it makes look rather alarming, not that we are not alarmed about this, but I think it is best to say the raw facts directly and people will know to be alarmed, instead of trying to shock people with text formatting into coming to their sense. I heard Conservapedia wants to get away from &amp;quot;that other encyclopedia&amp;quot;'s use of sensationism and tabloid style, so, maybe take off the bold. [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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other than this a very good job in the article, maybe it is too late to change direction your country is going, but at least people will know who had the facts before things all went wrong! [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I appreciate your comments but don't find them compelling.  &amp;quot;Atom bombs&amp;quot; is a familiar term; whether Clinton did likewise concerning terrorists is irrelevant; and bolding is obviously helpful for emphasis.  Thanks anyway and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:44, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I plan to stick to the 90-10 ratio here, and this is the first comment I've made, I did want to note that I agree with Eleger about &amp;quot;Atomic Bombs&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Nuclear Weapons&amp;quot; simply on the basis of the being more accurate terms. My person phrase of choice would be Nuclear arsenal though. Maybe nitpicking, but I think fair. -EternalCritic&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came to post that too; I also have a problem with &amp;quot;first&amp;quot; part of &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's atom bombs&amp;quot;. The most recent Democrat President was bad too. OTOH, something like &amp;quot;second person...&amp;quot; might distract from the point that Obama is a threat.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== How low can you go? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this meant as an &amp;quot;How To&amp;quot; article on character assassination? Though I do find some of the 'links' in the Obama and Islam hilarious, I'd thought that the conservative parts of the US had a shred of dignity left. It appears not to be the case. But keep feeding the lies to your fellow yes-men, the rest of us are quite amused.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We are not going low at all, You Who Did Not Leave Your Name. This entry is nothing about the truth about Barack Obama. Unfortunately, liberals like you will not find out until it is too late.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 21:20, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: ''&amp;quot;the rest of us are quite amused.&amp;quot;'' I am sure the leftwingers are quite amused of the nonstop Obama media lovefest. I am sure they are also amused at the whole disenfranchisement of voting in a Democracy thanks to ACORN. I am on a conservative website and I can't find a good Obama bio, shucks billybob, I need the Obama I can believe in, let's look at MSNBC... La La La, liberal fantasy land.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Berg Obama lawsuit==&lt;br /&gt;
Philip J. Berg announced 10/21 that Obama and the DNC “ADMITTED”, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is “NOT QUALIFIED” to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President. [http://obamacrimes.com/]--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:26, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;admission&amp;quot; is nothing more than an acknowledgment that there was no response to his suit, so Berg is claiming that this qualifies as an admission that all his allegations are true.  Berg's now positioning this as &amp;quot;Obama admits he's not a citizen&amp;quot;, but that is legal spin, not reality, and I'd be hesitant to claim it as anything other than the latest round in a lawsuit.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 10:52, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There's a legal principle that the silent are understood to consent.  Obama's failure to deny Berg's request for admission means that he admits those items under the law.  This definitely should be included, and should be reason enough to disqualify him from the election.  [[User:QWest|QWest]] 16:03, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lefty DindaleP was right, though it shouldn't be hard to find a sympathetic judge in Democrat bastion of Philadelphia. If, if the bozo (obama) wins, this issue will not go away easily and will be justification for impeachment. Though, will be hard to impeach with super-majority liberal congress, God help us. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:35, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Actually, McCain has a similar issue, in that he was not born in the US, and arguably not on US territory.  Most every single scholar I've read in the last few days on this has said McCain's case will be a compelling one, legally, because no court in the land would dare say a person born out of this country to two citizens, one of whom was SERVING HIS COUNTRY, would be denied the right to be president.  As we become more and more of a mobile population, with people traveling and living overseas for extended periods of time (business, government, or travel) I think more children will be born of two natural citizens, but not on the US territory.  I will be curious to watch how the term &amp;quot;Natural Born Citizen&amp;quot; is defined by the Court under any case, Obama or McCain, just for the historical precedent it will set.  --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 12:41, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::: By the way, Qwest, there is no legal principal that &amp;quot;silence is admittance&amp;quot;.  Until or unless a Judge posts an Order compelling you to provide a particular document or telling you to agree or deny, you are not obligated to.  Some instances this might be used could include famous people being hit over and over again with frivolis lawsuits, just cause they have money or power.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 12:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::McCain was born in United States territory, which the Panama Canal Zone was prior to 1978, when by treaty it was turned over to Panama.  Anyone born in the United States, its territories, or its overseas military bases is an American citizen.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:18, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Yes, very much an American citizen.  The interesting language is &amp;quot;Natural Born Citizen&amp;quot;.  That is what will be interesting to see how it's defined.  I think it makes rational sense that anyone born to American parents should be &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot;, regardless of where they are born.  But the Framers didn't explain the terms.  (I'm not arguing, by the way, for any point.  I'm simply saying scholars say this issue of an American Citizen not born on US land has not yet been addressed - or rather, what do the words &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot; mean, in that context.)  The lawsuit for McCain is totally irrelevant (even though the judge has not seen fit to toss it yet), since the Congress already said he is exempt per their own Resolution. --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 13:23, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birthplace and Grammar Revisited==&lt;br /&gt;
''Barack Hussein Obama, II (allegedly born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961)''  Putting aside all issues about whether the &amp;quot;where Obama was born&amp;quot; issue is worth mentioning, given that it ''is'' going to be mentioned, let's get it right.  The issue (as a previous poster mentioned somewhere above), is not ''whether'' he was born - we all agree on that.  The issue is whether he was born ''in Honolulu''.  Thus the phrase should read: ''Barack Hussein Obama, II (born, allegedly in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961)'' --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:06, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to add this external page and somehow link to this photo Democrat_Obama_during_the_Pledge.jpg   [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html No hand over heart from Obama during national anthem video]| Original footage ABC, now available through RawStory Media. [[Fair use]] --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:07, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Will unlock for you now.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:13, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First Muslim President ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If elected, Obama would likely become the first Muslim President&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
The evidence pointing to Obama being a Muslim can be included, but Barack Obama has said he is a Christian, and is a member of the United Church of Christ. So is saying he is likely to become a Muslim president meant to imply that Obama is secretly a Muslim? Perhaps a better phrased version of this sentence would be &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first president with a strong leaning toward Islam&amp;quot;. This is concurrent list that follows it, and is much less hypothetical like a good resource should be.  --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 21:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Obama's claims to be a Christian are meaningless for three reasons; first, his distinctly non-Christian stance on issues such as [[abortion]] and the [[homosexual agenda]]; second, the radical, [[Marxism|Marxist]] theology preached by his church; and third, the [[Muslim]] concept of [[taqiyya]] outlined in the article. All the of the evidence points away from his being a Christian. [[User:SMichaels|SMichaels]] 16:06, 28 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Using Taqiyya as a defense is a joke. I'm not doubting it's authenticity, but I could claim the same thing about you and you would have no defense. See Salem Witch Trials for more information. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:42, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama's stances on [[abortion]] the [[homosexual agenda]] and [[marxism|Marxism]] do take credibility away from his Chrisitian stance, but Muslims are against [[abortion]], [[homosexual agena|homosexualiity]] and women's rights themselves. Furthermore, [[Marxism]] is against all religions, and if his church preaches Marxism, that makes him a Marxist Christian, not a Marxist Muslim. While I myself question his faith in Jesus, I sincerely doubt that he is a Muslim. And as for Taqiyya? Isn't that just an obscure segment of a doctrine practiced only by some Sunnis and considered hypocrisy by other muslims? [[user:justiceisblind|Justice Is Blind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The facts you gave are true, but you did not address my bringing up the idea of rewording the phrase. Having a set of words like &amp;quot;might be&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;could be&amp;quot; seem extremely unscholarly. Those facts you threw up also would correspond to him having a strong leaning toward Islam, minus the hypothetical thought he might be a Muslim. --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 23:03, 28 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The truth is what it is, whether you find it &amp;quot;unscholarly&amp;quot; or not.  We're not fooled here when politicians try to deceive the public about who they are and what they believe.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:00, 29 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why is it so hard to directly answer my question? First off, do not mix my words, I said the way the sentence is phrased is not scholarly, what is truth or not does not matter to me.  I don't really care what you say is the truth, and what you are or are not fooled by. I am just bringing up the option that as long as Obama himself and no mosques claim he is a member, perhaps it should be reworded to &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first president with a strong leaning toward Islam&amp;quot;, which also corresponds to the list that follows it, and is all based on fact no conjecture. The reader should have the right to make up their own mind after reading the examples which are listed. --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 22:18, 29 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There are strong evidence that Obama is a muslim and it has been layed out again and again.  He has never come out and said he's not a muslim among all the questions.  There for if elected, he will be the first muslim president ever elected.  It's as simple as that. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Sure he has.  [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0GFKqOf8EHQ]--[[User:KathrynMonroe|KathrynMonroe]] 22:23, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yes, he has. [http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/01/obama_mail]  --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:42, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barack raises the bar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The snide accusation that Barack Obama insulted America because he refused to hold his hand over his heart is completely off-target. (See photo at top of article). The human heart is just a pump , medically speaking, but culturally it represents the finest, most vital and sensitive parts of our soul. Barack is indicating precisely how much he loves America by putting not one, but both hands over that part of his body which truly encompasses the most vital, potent and sincere components of his soul. Bill Clinton might not be his biggest fan, but he would be the first to applaud this magnificent gesture. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 23:37, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL [[User:Aperson41|Aperson41]] 01:50, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A hypothetical article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The vast majority of this article appears to be purely hypothetical and some of it seems to be fradulent, such as the pornographer donation and the speculation that Obama is a muslim. It is refreshing to see Obama in such a sober light, but I would encourage previous and future writers to be less interested in controversy, and to use legitimate information on the article instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, the article lacks structure, and seems to dive in and out of his history, his policies, quotations in a manner which pleases the tone. It is all quite juvenile and sad; an encyclopedia is where questions are answered, not where additional questions are brought up.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Birth Certificate Controversy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The whole section should be reworded or entirely deleted. According to [http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04 this], there can be no more doubt about Obama's birthplace. The article also states, that Obama has no right to release his birth certificate, so all demands for him to do that can only be part of a smear campaign. --[[User:Ascat|Ascat]] 15:22, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agreed.  For more confirmation see [http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu] and [http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Nov01/0,4670,InternetPoliticalRumors,00.html Fox News' article about Web political rumors.]  Having 'allegedly' made sense before all the facts were on the table, but now I'm removing the word because it lessens the strength of our true, verifiable criticisms if we leave it there. [[User:Jinkas|Jinkas]] 20:58, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: What about the lawsuit against him about this? [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=2313]--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 21:23, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The lawsuits all fell through, because anyone looking at the official documents could tell that they were real, it was a manufactured controversy thanks to Hillary (boy I wish expletives were allowed on conservapedia). --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 16:49, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This issue remains valid even though rejected by the courts. Expect it to be revisited if he wins. Plus, allegiances owed to Keyna and Indonesia are part of the birth certificate controversy. Neither gossip nor the certificate proven true and Hawaii actions are unexplained, still. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: My version doesn't violate comandments 1, 3, and 5 like the version that was removed. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 17:24, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don't like the edit, but I will let it remain. It does violate CP with personal opinion, (costly time and money during busy election season). --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:30, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The tone is bad I will admit, but that is all fact and not opinion. Is it an opinion or a fact that it takes tie to sit in court for several days? Is it an opinion or a fact that it takes money to pay court costs and extra lawyers? Is it an opinion or a fact that he is in a campaign where the outcome depends largely on the tie and money he spends campaigning? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 17:44, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::JPatt, could you explain &amp;quot;allegiance to Kenya?&amp;quot;  I don't understand this comment.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 17:57, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The original post on this page says &amp;quot;that Obama has no right to release his birth certificate.&amp;quot;  I do not believe this to be what the original article says.  I think it means simply that no state official has the authority to release publicly a birth certificate, not that Obama himself is unable to do so. [[User:TGeary|TGeary]] 20:15, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mr. Obama's Grandmother just died==&lt;br /&gt;
Without getting into politics, it would be nice to mention it respectfully on his page.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 17:33, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do we have any reputable sources for that?  Given Obama's history of engaging in [[liberal deceit]], I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate a story like this to nullify attacks on Election Day. [[User:Neutronium|Neutronium]] 14:06, 4 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::May I say, comments like this are what hurt our republican party this year.  His politics may be liberal, but he's still a human and making fun of a death of a loved one is beneath a good Christian. {{unsigned|JeanJacques}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Neutronium, keep the parody to a minimum, please. That is simply heartless.&lt;br /&gt;
:::JeanJacques, yes, if it's relevant (do we have the mention of grandparents on anyone else's page? I don't know without looking) the we need it added in a respectful way. No matter what we think about Obama, he is a human and so is his grandmother. The was it is presented now, it almost seems as if we are implying that her death contributes to the controversy, when it clearly doesn't. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:54, 4 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Neutronium, there is a difference between being a cautious &amp;amp; prudent person, and being a paranoid, heartless person (i use the word &amp;quot;person&amp;quot; only due to the website rules of proper conduct). You would do well to realize that...AndrewM&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Is Why Obama Is Wining==&lt;br /&gt;
Articles like this make me think that Conservapedia is run by liberals. Burying real facts like Obama's membership in a Black Liberation Theology church, with silly lies like he is a &amp;quot;muslim&amp;quot;, only serve to discredit real objections to the Obama candidacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed. Congratulayions Andy, you did more for the Democrats than you can possibly know. Thoroughly discrediting this site with ridiculous partisan accusations based onm the flimsiest of evidence meant that anything that was a genuine talking point just got lost among the nonsense. That many on the left pointed to this page to discredit the entire conservapedia idea just goes to show that you can go too far. Congratulations for playing your part in losing the election and being successfully gamed by the left, who knew that you would leave tenuous ridiculous nonsense up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's not badmouth the side that lost. Andy, you did your best, and I appreciate that. However, you can see from my comments from way back, that the Obama article was way too extreme, and included a number of outright falsehoods. Not saying that this lost the race for McCain, but going too extreme eventually starts to hurt. Like in business - a good CEO is someone who is willing to go to the edge of what is legal, but not cross that line. Those CEO's who stay on the edge are winners, those who go over, go to jail. Same thing here...I think the whole Republican campaign was just too darn negative, and put off a lot of undecided voters. Anyway, here's looking forward to President Schwarzenegger in 2012...&lt;br /&gt;
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: Both sides were overly negative, but in reality that's a natural thing for long campaigns. The longer it runs the less fresh the ideas seem. It gets repetetive so after a while, in order to keep things fresh, mudslinging becomes common. I honestly wish we had a much shorter election time frame. Like six months max. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 13:41, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I've just decided that this site's main contributors are probably liberals messing around with people. I bet there are some liberals somewhere getting a huge laugh at people who are seriously offended, or seriously believe half of these articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is going to be the next president==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama has won the election, and I think this should be added to the page. [[User:Arthur205|Arthur205]] 00:12, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes he is, sadly. I encourage all of us to PRAY for the FATE OF OUR COUNTRY. Unfortunately, this page must be updated. [[User:LuvinGodDP|LuvinGodDP]] 10:10, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised no one has updated it yet, it's been over 12 hours since it's been announced. Honestly this sort of time lag on the internet is just sad. You would think that they would at least un-protect it in order for someone else to update it. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:13, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States of America==&lt;br /&gt;
Article should be updated accordingly&lt;br /&gt;
: President-''Elect'', technically speaking. He won't be President until he's inaugurated, and we should hold off on explicitly saying he's the winner until the electoral college has voted (not that I'm pretending there's any real chance of 100+ faithless electors suddenly popping up to help McCain). Right now, he's just the likely winner of the presidential race. --[[User:JeremyDB|JeremyDB]] 12:24, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Let's not disrespect McCain's gracious concession. We should put in that he's the President Elect and when he will be inaugurated. Let's at least be up to date. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 12:56, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The first section of this article has been updated to reflect that Obama is now president-elect, but the rest needs to be updated also.  For instance, the section entitled &amp;quot;Obama would be the first Muslim President&amp;quot; should now be &amp;quot;Obama will be the first Muslim President,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;will use the Koran to be sworn in,&amp;quot; etc. -[[User:Rfreeman|Rfreeman]] 18:04, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What happening with the muslim section? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see why it needs to be above the TOC, The TOC lets people find what they are looking for, which may very well be proof that he is a Muslim, and really should be on the first page for formatting reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Obama's middle name (Hussein) references its namesake Husayn, who was the grandson of Muhammad, which most Christians would not retain.''&lt;br /&gt;
In this case the reference should be after the word Muhammad, because it does not reference the notion that christians would have there name changed, also it is his fathers name, and if he changed it it could negatively impact his relationship with his family, I would not consider this strong evidence. Seems like Opinion to me&lt;br /&gt;
*'' Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;'' You do know that the video cited as its source showed clearly that he was talking about a tactic that McCain could use, not his real faith (I strongly suspect Obama to be pretty apathetic to religion)&lt;br /&gt;
*''On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria, which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.'' If reading a book written in a muslim POV makes you a muslim than how do we know what is in this book, because we can't trust anyone who read it to not be a muslim. If he were seen praying out the the qran that would be another story entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.'' Pakistan is an islamic nation, the american way of saying it is a bastardized version, he is using the name the nation calls its self.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think that this should be reworded in to prose and that it needs to be below the TOC.--[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:46, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Copyediting needed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that updating things like this as the news changes is tough, but:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama II (born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961), Democratic Party member, junior senator of the state of Illinois, and president-elect of the United States, winning the 2008 Election over Arizona Senator John McCain [3].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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is not a sentence... [[User:Human|Human]] 14:17, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I know they won't let me because I'm too new and can be a bit controversial, but I would love to rewrite the entire first paragraph. It has become such a muddled mess that it doesn't read well at all. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 14:27, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Muslim? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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That section of the article looks like its attempting to proove that he is a muslim. Why not simply say &amp;quot;some prominent christian sites including X and Y have suggested that Obama may be a muslim&amp;quot;. It currently looks like it's trying to make people think that he is a muslim, and that for some reason that's bad. What's wrong with muslims?--[[User:Newguy123|Newguy123]] 16:15, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think the point is that - no there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim but lying about it for political gain is a problem. [[User:AdamBeyer|AdamBeyer]] 16:32, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Again, that makes the presupposition being that someone lies when all you have is superficial, rather strained evidence to say he isn't lying.  Not very gracious on our part.  There are plenty of legitimate issues with Mr. Obama.  Living in gossip and innuendo and &amp;quot;he once made a mistake when talking&amp;quot; seems petty on our part.  Isn't it more important to emphasis why he is a socialist?  All we say is &amp;quot;he is&amp;quot;, not what that means, and how it could effect the country, etc.  It bothers me that this site emphasizes gossip.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 16:42, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Personally I dont think he is a Muslim however I am not going to kick up a fuss as I was already warned by Aschlafly (is he the boss?) for....something I did? Not sure what. [[User:AdamBeyer|AdamBeyer]] 16:45, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I think it's funny how at the beginning of the article it claims he is a muslim, and then at the end discusses his previous church and pastor. It even lists 1988 as his year of baptism despite the beginning of the article stating he didn't have a date for baptism, which for everyone here in the conservapedia zone seems to take as undeniable proof he is a super secret muslim spy out for your children and pets.&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously though, I've mentioned it above that having an article for the current president of the U.S. start out with a poor and unnecessary argument over his faith is ''unprofessional'' at best. The beginning makes no valid points, manages to insult Muslims as a whole, and also contains that stupid picture of Obama in a traditional Kenyan costume.--[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 23:17, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A Muslim President-elect! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Now that the unthinkable has occurred and Obama has duped the American People and stolen the election, he will become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]], and will probably use the [[Koran]] to be sworn into office.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It is widely believed that now he is President-elect, Obama will drop the tiresome pretence of being a Christian and produce his other wives from hiding, don a turban and a scimitar, pray buns-up five times a day on a Persian carpet while facing Mecca, have a minaret built on top of the White House from which he will personally play the role of the muezzin and call the faithful to prayer, will establish policy recommending that “the Zionist entity be driven into the sea”, and put bin Laden’s face on the American dollar. The week after that will probably be even worse.&amp;quot; If no one objects, I will make some such interpolations in the article proper. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 23:30, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;70's terrorist&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I object to Ayers being referred to as a &amp;quot;terrorist from the 70's&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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he is a &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot; end of story. once a terrorist, always a terrorist&lt;br /&gt;
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we won't call Bin Laden a &amp;quot;2000's terrorist&amp;quot; in 2050&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good point, [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]].  Thanks for the edit. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:24, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The man is a functioning member of society, an educator, a family man, who has condemns his past actions, and has worked greatly towards improving the lives of others through charity work. He was a part of a group that destroyed ''property'', which doesn't make him a terrorist because that would imply he did random acts of terror on ''people''. Blowing up statues and parts of buildings was wrong but they did not go after people, and no one was hurt or killed. To compare him to Bin Laden is ''despicable''. And to put a section about this man at the top of the page of Presidential-elect Obama who worked with him in an organization to help reduce poverty levels is neither well thought out or ''tactful''. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 08:46, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Except that the Weather Underground did in fact kill people - 3 of their own, in a bomb-making accident.  Sometimes that happens when you set off bombs, even if it's not what you had in mind.  I would put other property-destruction crimes such as cross burning in the terror category as well.  I do agree that Obama's association with Ayres is minimal, at best, and I have huge issues with all the guilt-by-association tactics employed by the McCain campaign.  I'm not taking a stand on the content of this article one way or another. I'm just trying to organize it and cite it as best I can. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't believe an accidental death of their own people should be considered &amp;quot;terror&amp;quot; though. People could technically die while making signs for a normal type of protest, not as likely, but an accident is an accident. Although I do think that some property destruction like cross burning could be argued to be terroristic because it is done in order to terrify a group of people and incite violence against that group. However I still think that what the weather underground did does not quite carry that same connotations. They were protesting a war, and doing so by costing the government money and drawing attention to their cause, at no time was a group of people targeted in a way that would indicate that they were in danger directly from a hostile organization, unless you were an office desk or a public statue/monument. To use the word &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot;, especially nowadays, in the case of Bill Ayers is misleading, and it is a word that should not be tossed around lightly. It seems that people believe that Ayers = Terrorist, so therefore he must have killed people or tried to kill people, and this article does little to correct this misconception. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:41, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MInd Control? Really now? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The people who published this lost what little credibility they had when they published this. Repeating it on this page just makes you look bad. I mean an O looks like a crystal ball? First of all it also looks like an orange or a penny or anything else that is round and circular. Also, I think that crystal balls are the favorite of ''fortune tellers'' so unless Obama can predict the future (which I think might make him a ''better'' president) this doesn't mean much. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:54, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree.  I am a practicing stage hypnotist (practicing because I still need work :) and I can tell you that most hypnotists use nothing but their voices and physical presence, and those who do use props traditionally use a pencil. [[User:SamuelA|SamuelA]] 13:21, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Absence of Dancing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dancing is a popular form of celebration and partying by all ethnicities.  But why is [[Barack Obama]] rarely seen dancing, or even allowing and attending dancing.  Perhaps I've missed it (please let me know if I have).  I know, there was one highly staged politically correct dance with Ellen DeGeneris as Obama was catering to her audience.  But where's the rest?&lt;br /&gt;
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One explanation is that the Islamic [[sharia]] disfavors dancing.[http://docstalk.blogspot.com/2008/10/islamic-scholars-denounce-dancing-say.html] --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:08, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When's the last time you went dancing, Andy? [[User:HDCase|HDCase]] 11:23, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::um, lol?&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpxJQABkSsQ Dancing in Puerto Rico]&lt;br /&gt;
::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axH9bhwI8os Dancing to Snoop Dogg]&lt;br /&gt;
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::so there it is... at least three different places where he's seen dancing. Here's my question: lets see you find videos of Mccain dancing! xP your Islamic assumption thingy holds no water since you can say the same for McCain! [[User:Ema|Ema]] 11:26, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ah! Ema, don't be fooled by this [[deceit]], he might secretly be a [http://www.dankphotos.com/whirling/ whirling dervish!] They're members of [[Sufi]] Islam, by the way. --[[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I took a look at the Puerto Rico video.  It proves my point.  I've never seen anyone dance-without-dancing like that.  Have you?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: It will be fascinating to see how long it takes people to wake up to who Obama really is.  Judging by the determined objections above, it may be quite a while for some of his supporters.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:06, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your argument is that he is a bad dancer so he must be a Muslim? Seriously Andrew, take a deep breath and relax, proving him to be a Muslim is not going to get him impeached, he has the presidency and that is that. In four years it might matter, but that means you have poor years to find less circumstantial evidence. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 12:27, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, Brendanw, it is obviously not my argument that he is a &amp;quot;bad dancer.&amp;quot;  I think you understand my argument perfectly well and won't admit it.  Suit yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:31, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Brendan's right about one thing at least. All the evidence listed is either circumstantial or draws illogical conclusions. The one about him when he says he joins a church after a suggestion does not in any way imply him as a muslim, though it might imply him as a disingenuous Christian. The two are mutually exclusive. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 12:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Well please explain it to  me differently, initially you said he didn't dance, and now that we have three videos of it you say that he &amp;quot;dances with out dancing&amp;quot; what does that mean if not bad dancer? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 12:45, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Andy's saying that, in those three videos, Obama isn't really ''dancing'', in the sense of crossing a line of Muslim (im)morality.  It's like being against swearing, but recognizing that words like &amp;quot;heck&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;geez&amp;quot; don't really cross that line.  That said, however, I did run across a video where [http://splicd.com/wzyT9-9lUyE/31/52 Obama dances] by anyone's definition.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:25, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::RossC, this video is obviously faked. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 14:32, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if he will dance at his inaugural ball, if it gets to that point. (see: Berg) [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 13:47, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti Americanism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Many points in this article could be summarized into a section called &amp;quot;Anti Americanism&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised this hasn't been done already. Anti Americanism should be a given a very prominent place in this article.&lt;br /&gt;
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: I like this idea because I feel the article is too fragmented and not organized. People are adding self contained ideas in various points in the article, especially at the top, which disrupts the flow and readablity. I cleaned up the first paragraph, but I can't smooth up everything [[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If I make such an edit will I be banned? [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:01, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Muslim Faith&amp;quot; comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe Barack Obama is a Muslim or at least more sympathetic to them than Christians, but the &amp;quot;Muslim Faith&amp;quot; statement is taken out of context. I removed it as part of the evidence of him being Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't like that video btw, I only posted it to show the full context [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:07, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On a side note, the entire section, for accuracy's sake, should be called &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is not a Christian&amp;quot; since the only parts that are not circumstantial are in regard to disingenuous Christianity. Beyond that the idea of him not changing his name making him muslim is ridiculous. He was named for his Father. Example from reality: my middle name is Paul. I received it fromt he name of my grandfather. I'm no longer Christian. But I don't change my middle name because I no longer believe Paul's words. I keep it because I love and respect my grandfather. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 13:14, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I partially agree. Maybe there should be two sections. One detailing Anti-Christian facts and one for Pro-Muslim [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disgusted Conservative ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've voted Republican in every election since 1960, but I'm absolutely disgusted by this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to the dignity of our party under Goldwater and Reagan? This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; page is just one long rant. &lt;br /&gt;
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Are there any real conservatives out there willing to present objective, factual criticism of Obama? God knows there are enough valid arguments to make. Why are we channeling Michael Savage rather than William Buckley? Currently this page makes me cry for my party.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like disgusted conservative is voting for BO. I happen to think it is an accurate account of a man that is dishonest. Where will you get the real picture about about if not here? Are you disgusted by Wikipedias article? How about the coverage on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, LATimes, WaPo, NYT, Google, The Guardian. Why not be mad and except that the majority of America is being fooled? Why not be mad at someone as disgusting as BO, actually has a real chance to take the Presidency and doesn't deserve it IN THE LEAST? Reagan is rolling over in his grave and so all the Founders.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Voting Republican again this year. I know you're mad about what's going on, but it shows throughout the page. An encyclopedia can't be written from an angry point of view. Let me be specific:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot; plus &amp;quot;Obama and Islam&amp;quot; are not valid main introductory sections. Start with his early life.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) His birth certificate gets its own section but his healthcare and tax plans don't? Focus on what's really important.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section is just a list of criticisms and belongs under a &amp;quot;Criticism&amp;quot; section. Categorize corectly.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Off-topic side-swipes: &amp;quot;He became a member of the Harvard Law Review, which uses racial quotas, in 1989&amp;quot;. Why is &amp;quot;which uses racial quotas&amp;quot; in there? If it was a reason that he was chosen, say that. If it wasn't leave it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Unsubstantiated claims: &amp;quot;Obama's campaign has been financed largely by leftist donors opposed to the war and to the American military in general.&amp;quot; Citation definitely needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have several good sections in here: &amp;quot;Senate career&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Foreign policy experience&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Published criticism&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Religious affiliations&amp;quot;. These are high-quality and reflect well on Conservapedia. The others do not.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the reply from hsmom below as the kind of constructive, factual accuracy this page needs.&lt;br /&gt;
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::This sounds like you're standard liberal bellyaching.  The fact is that no real conservative Christian can vote for this man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::??!?! Trying to hold this article to some kind of standard is bellyaching? Would you like to address any of my points?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Your points is liberal talking points.  The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama wants to talk with Iran without predeterminations, flip flops, and is close friends to an unrepentive TERRORIST.  What more can you know?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Trying to shift the focus on an ''encyclopedia page'' about a presidential candidate from hypothetical statements (his possible Islamic faith) and trivial matters (his birth certificate), to his actual stance on the issues is liberal bellyaching? If anything, we should be casting aside these trivial circumstances as beneath us and take the time to dissect each of his stances on the actual issues. That's what a real, dignified Conservative would do. Relying on ridiculous tactics such as these is asinine and cowardly. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 16:21, 9 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Obama's pastor of twenty-years, Rev. Wright, was originally a member with the Nation of Islam (likely always has been, see [[taqiyya]])''  Let's be careful not to confuse the Nation of Islam with the traditional Muslim faith - they are two quite different things. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:10, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't know that I'd use the word &amp;quot;compelling&amp;quot;; I don't know a whole lot about either faith.  I do know that they're quite different.  The Nation of Islam was started in Detroit in the 1930's as something of a black empowerment/separatist movement - it's a very race-based group, from what I understand, and (in what I would consider a cult-like way) based largely on the teachings of two or three men, who are considered more-or-less prophets.  It's been portrayed in the media as very racist and anti-Semitic, though I don't know enough about it to know how accurate that is.  It's a uniquely American faith.  Traditional Islam is quite a different thing - it's been around for thousands of years.  Malcolm X, for example, became a member of NOI in prison, then, due to disillusionment brought on by NOI leader/prophet Elijah Mohamed's adultery, converted to traditional Islam.  I have assumed that when you say that you believe that Barak Obama is a Muslim, you are referring to traditional Islam, right? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:37, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::''Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.''  No, I wouldn't put it that way.  I wouldn't consider NOI to be Islam.  As I understand it, I think they are two fundamentally different faiths, though NOI has some trappings borrowed from traditional Islam, as well as some borrowed from Christianity.  NOI believes, among other things, &amp;quot;that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited &amp;quot;Messiah&amp;quot; of the Christians and the &amp;quot;Mahdi&amp;quot; of the Muslims.&amp;quot;[http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm]  As I understand it, when NOI members pray to Allah, they mean (at least in part) W. Fard Muhammad (the founder of NOI).  Wheras of course traditional Muslims don't include anything about W. Fard Muhammad in their beliefs, nor do they recognize NOI as a Muslim denomination.  (Christians don't believe W. Fard Muhammad is the Messiah either, obviously.)  NOI is a uniquely American black separatist movement.  I believe it's quite a different faith from traditional Islam.  Maybe I was wrong about assuming you think Barak Obama is a traditional Muslim?  Do you think Barak Obama is a member of the NOI?  That would lead to quite different concerns; as I understand it, the NOI wants, among other things, quite substantial reparations for slavery. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The Nation of Islam's relationship to Christianity is similar to the relationship of Christianity to Judaism.  They use the same texts (to some extent), and have practices that are shared with and developed out of the other - but such distortions take place that one is clearly no longer the other.  It's not even about &amp;quot;not being mainstream&amp;quot;, it's about that place and time when one religion truly ceases to be it's parent religion.  You would be fully inaccurate to call a christian merely a &amp;quot;Jesus loving Jew&amp;quot;.  Christianity became its own religion in the year 30 (give or take) when our Lord died and rose for us.  For the Nation of Islam, with the Prophet Elijah claiming to be the reincarnation of Mohammad, they cease to be merely &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; and become their own religion.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 11:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I attempted to make this article better by noting, as several other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; could be a reference to Heinz ketchup or simple a misstatement (Obama had visited 47 states), as well as the fact that there were not 57 Islamic states when Obama attended an Indonesian school. It was reverted. Why? Is this an encyclopedia, or a liberal hate blog? [[User:Egen|Egen]] 10:42, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your edit was baseless, and probably politically motivated.  The entry is factual and will remain that way.  Obama has likely remained a Muslim long after attending grade school.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On the subject, I think someone should add the following line to your page: &amp;quot;The odds against Aschlafly's claim to be named 'Andrew Schlafly' being truthful are less than 1 billion to one, as fewer than 6 people in the world are named Andrew Schlafly.&amp;quot; Don't put malarkey like this on a serious encyclopedia page and defend it as being &amp;quot;factual&amp;quot;. I remind you of Conservapedia Commandments 1, 2, and 5. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 11:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In any case, I fail to see how it is &amp;quot;baseless&amp;quot; to note, as other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; cannot possibly be a reference to &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; and probably has a more benign origin. It does not to any good to assert that anyone who disagrees with you probably does so because they are &amp;quot;politically motivated&amp;quot; (read: liberal) when many conservatives have expressed disdain for this point. I doubt that the majority of Conservapedia editors would disagree with my edit. This encyclopedia is not a personal blog for you or for anyone else. Therefore, I am reinserting the edit. If anyone can provide proof that Obama was referring to the &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; which did not exist when he was growing up '''and''' provide proof that that is what he was referring to, I'll retract this. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 12:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Egen - I entirely agree with you. A lot of people here think this is a redstate comments thread rather than, as it says in the top left corner, &amp;quot;the trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot;. Snopes on this one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp&lt;br /&gt;
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I removed the mention of the 57 states, since the article later refers to a source that says that it was probably a misstatement as he has in fact visited 47 states. &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;unsigned JohnFA&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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      Jpatt - Why should it? It's repeated later on in the article where it is also explained. This statement is redundant since it doesn't even have a source.&lt;br /&gt;
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I added the fact that there were not 57 states when he went to school in indonesia, if we are going to mention that he went to an islamic school we are implying that that is where he learned about the 57 states, this is impossible and that should be noted. People will reference conservapedia and if they reference that he visited the 57 islamic states or that he learned about there being 57 islamic states in islamic school they will look like fools.--[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:06, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Right now, the implication made about Obama's gaff and &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; indicates the United States.  If it's about Indonesia, then state Indonesia, as well as prove that Indonesia is divided into 57 states.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:12, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I double-checked the references provided, one of which has a video of Obama himself doing the gaff; it may have been a minor slip of the tounge or a minor mistake, but not once was there a reference to visiting Islamic states or countries.  He specified visiting 57 ''U.S. states''.  The article was changed to reflect that fact, and the speculation on Islamic states was removed.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:23, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I wanted to do that but I figured I would just get reverted. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:53, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I'll let you take credit then for the fixing, or at least getting it started :)  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:57, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this site supposed to be unbaised?-[[User:Red4tribe|Red4tribe]] 16:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;born, allegedly, in Honolulu&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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God bless. [[User:JohnBarma|JohnBarma]] 13:30, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As the previous poster said, &amp;quot;(born, allegedly, in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;, implies that he may not have been born, which I think is not what is intended.  &amp;quot;Allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot; has the same problem.  Putting aside whether or not the &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; is silly (and frankly I think the factcheck.org folks debunked this one), if you want to convey the idea that he was born, but may have been born somewhere other than Hawaii, then it should read &amp;quot;(born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;.  Comma placement matters. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 20:58, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is my understanding from a recent article on Fox that the form presented lists him as &amp;quot;African&amp;quot;.  This was 1961.  The concept of African-American or any reference to African in racial makeup, while very prevalent in the last 15+ years, was still more than 20 years off.  Birth certificates in 1961 used &amp;quot;Negro&amp;quot;.  I'm surprised this isn't mentioned anywhere. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 17:19, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just finished reading Dreams from My Father. I don't recommend it. But one thing I missed was a reference to Malcolm X being Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot;. He speaks highly of Malcolm X's autobiography, but doesn't like the &amp;quot;religious baggage&amp;quot; that the guy &amp;quot;discarded in later life&amp;quot;. Is the reference here correct? [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 17:10, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Search Google on {&amp;quot;Malcolm X&amp;quot; Obama favorite} and you'll find numerous credible confirmations of the statement about Malcolm X being Obama's favorite black leader.  The entry need not be limited to the silly Dreams book.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:03, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not really seeing it. Various claims Obama loves Malcolm X's autobiography (which, subject to the point above, seems correct), but the claims that he is Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot; all cite no reference, or cite Dreams - I think incorrectly. Is there a source for Obama having said or written this? If not, it should go. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 18:12, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree that it should be sourced, preferably with a quote from his book or one of his speeches, otherwise it could be mistaken for an untrue rumor.  If he qualified the statement with something about X's religion, as Marcdaniels noted above, that should be included in the quote.  I looked for a credible source, but couldn't find one.  I have added a fact tag, which can be removed when a suitable citation is found. (Let's not forget that Malcolm X was involved with the Nation of Islam, which is quite a different thing than traditional Islam.  He rejected the Nation of Islam later in life.)--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:13, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Examples supporting the statement are easy to find.  I just added one.  I don't think anyone seriously doubts the truth of the statement.  Feel free to find and add other citations supporting it.  The discomfort expressed above seems to be with the fact itself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Your source goes back to the book, which I'd thought we'd both agreed wasn't on point. It's entirely plausible that Obama might regard Malcolm X as his favorite black leader, and that would discomfort me in the slightest, but I'm having real difficulty finding any evidence that he has said or written this. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 07:40, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I am now a little confused, and I'm not sure why you are getting personal. You suggested there were additional sources for the claim on the internet, other than those referring to the book, but I cannot find one. I may be missing something obvious - would be helpful if you could provide a link. The book shows Malcolm X's autobiography to have been Obama's favourite autobiography, and it would be accurate to say that, but anything further seems supposition rather than fact. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 11:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;if elected, Obama will become the first black, and possibly Muslim, President of the United States.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's the problem with this sentence in place of the one currently there? For starters, it isn't proven that he's Muslim, but it ''is'' proven that he's black, so certainly it should be mentioned over the hypothetical. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The racial composition of all the past presidents is not completely known, so I doubt it's appropriate to insist that Obama would be the '''first''' black President.  Also, the racial composition of a man is not as important as his beliefs.  It is known that none of the prior presidents were Muslim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well said, Aschlafly.  It is the content of a person's character that should determine how we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; them.  Although, who are we to judge?  I suspect, however, looking at the photos, that Senator Obama would at least be the first President (if elected) with a clear [[African American]] heritage.  Whether a few others may have had a lineage leading back to Africa in their family tree is another, albeit interesting, question. [[User:Human|Human]] 23:16, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's an interesting argument. If we know so little about the former presidents that we cannot say whether any of them met society's contemporaneous definition of Black - the one-drop rule, for example - then how can we say than none of them were Muslim? If they could keep their African ancestry secret, why not their true religion? Is there evidence of political opponents accusing a candidate of being of mixed-blood ancestry?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 23:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: As to whether past presidents were Muslims, simply look at what they did and said ... including before they became politically ambitious.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:33, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot;, or at least &amp;quot;decide&amp;quot; when we vote.  However, when did &amp;quot;judge not... [lest ye be judged]&amp;quot; become a &amp;quot;liberal canard&amp;quot;?  I thought it was a warning in the Bible not to overstep our bounds?  Voting, of course, does not overstep them - we pencil in a space, or pull a lever.  That is not &amp;quot;judgment&amp;quot;, it is an expression of personal opinion or preference or ideas.  Moving beyond that simple step, however, leads us into judgment territory, potentially.  When we should be humble and add commentary on ourselves as well as those we judge is an issue of personal ethics - or morality.  A good time to sit down with good words and contemplate. [[User:Human|Human]] 01:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like someone to please explain to me how this is unbais? At least with the article you can try to make something up saying how its unbais but the main picture is trying to show very obviouisly that Obama is unpatriotic... If you look at McCains page or Palins the picture of professionally done. Please someone give me a reasonable answer [[User talk:Horriblesite]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, &amp;quot;unbais&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;professionally done&amp;quot; are Liberal canards. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Are these the same thing? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 15:34, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing that bothers me about Obama is the comments attributed to his wife. 1. That it was the first time she was proud of america and 2.That black children had no future in america. Both she and her husband are examples of how well a black child can do so its hard to understand why she has that view. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 16:38, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::See similar comments from John McCain: http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/06/mccain-it-can-be-%E2%80%9Ctough%E2%80%9D-to-be-proud-of-usa/   “I’ll admit to you … that it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said when asked by a questioner at a town hall meeting how to be proud of the country. “We have not always done things right and we mismanaged the war in Iraq very badly for nearly four years.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect this very obvious fake photo (look at how small the two women are compared to the chairs behind them, check out the flag's edges itself and what exactly is holding it up) was placed here by people hoping to discredit Conservapedia. I understand a popular activity among liberals and vandals is to insert things seeming to support Conservative and Christian values, but that are either extreme or fake, and so undermine the encyclopedia as a whole.--[[User:TruthOfChrist|TruthOfChrist]] 11:11, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It isn't fake.  Many other photos of this occasion exist.  Video, too.  The goofy-looking perspective is an artifact of the angle and lens used. --[[User:XavierJ|XavierJ]] 12:29, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:See my analysis of this on this Talk Page, point 58: &amp;quot;Barack raises the bar&amp;quot;. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 00:25, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- The first sentence says Obama was born in Hawaii.  At first I was under the impression that someone decided to act in a competent manner and remove the baseless innuendo about his place of birth.  Alas I was mistaken because later in the article the word 'alleged' is still used.  I thought all reasonable people would presume that a document from the State of Hawaii would suffice to prove one's citizenship instead of using the rants of the lunatic fringe.&lt;br /&gt;
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: A lawsuit has been filed by someone seeking the real birth certificate.  Complain to him, and explain why it still apparently has not been produced.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The state of Hawaii is not just going to let anybody get a copy of Obama's birth certificate, let alone his original.  I can't even get my hands on my own original birth certificate and I'll bet neither can you.  A certified copy of Obama's birth certificate has been provided for anyone to look at.  If this copy is good enough for our government officials that are not part of the lunatic fringe, then why isn't it good enough for Conservapedia?  I'd like to think Conservapedia is not aligning itself with the likes of the people filing these nonsense lawsuits.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama only attended religious schools until he reached the age of ten (Islamic and Catholic).  The rest of his education from Punahou School, Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard was nonsectarian.  Clearly the vast majority of his education was non-religious. [[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Obama's formative years were spend being indoctrinated in Islam.  Less than 1% convert to Christianity after that experience.  Enough said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was never under the impression that a person's formative years stopped at the age of ten.  According to you, Obama shouldn't be a liberal because he attended conservative religious schools during his alleged formative years, 6 - 10.  How is it that he is now a liberal after living another 35+ years and attending an ivy-league college?  You are also ignoring his years in a Catholic school during his time in Indonesia.  Why?  If he spent two of his formative years at a Catholic school, shouldn't he be a Catholic?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Malcom X was not THE leader of the Nation of Islam, he was A leader.  There is a distinct difference. [[http://www.finalcall.com/national/savioursday2k/hem_nation.htm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Nitpicking here.  I'll change &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; for you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Don't do it for me, do it for the reputation of Conservapedia.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama was baptized in 1988, the same year he started attending Harvard.  If there is a reference stating he was baptized prior to his political ambitions, please post it.  [[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1988 makes no sense, as no one ever saw any Christian behavior or church attendance by Obama at law school from 1988 to 1991.  Post his baptismal certificate.  You can't and neither can Obama.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why doesn't 1988 make any sense?  Was there a problem with my reference?  Are you able to provide reputable evidence that Obama's baptism didn't occur in 1988?  Just because a person doesn't attend church on a regular basis or hardly at all is not a reason to deny someone's baptism.  Elsewhere in this article is criticism directed at Obama's CHRISTIAN pastor of 20 years.  Either Obama is a Christian that attended a Christian church for 20 years or he is not.  If he is a Muslim, then why all the fuss about his Christian pastor of 20 years?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Just because someone reads a book allegedly 'from a Muslim point-of-view' does not mean they are actually a Muslim.  I have read parts of the book and I am not a Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It adds to the evidence.  If Obama were reading the Bible, then that would detract from the evidence.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama does read his Bible and has encouraged others to do so as well.  Would like a reference?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Roosevelt communicated with America's enemies.  After the outbreak of WW II, Roosevelt was negotiating with the Japanese.  Things didn't go well and the Japanese were embargoed, thus losing most of their import capability including over 90% of their oil supplies. [[http://www.fff.org/freedom/1291c.asp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your point is lacking here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::In reference to Obama saying we should talk to our enemies, the following claim was made, &amp;quot;Roosevelt spoke with none of the Axis or Japanese leaders and the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender.&amp;quot;  Roosevelt and members of his administration talked to our enemies, the reference provided by the article was written by a columnist with a distinct lack of historical credibility.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- If Obama' likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students', then which scholarships were they?  Could a reference at least be provided?&lt;br /&gt;
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: You tell us.  Obama won't disclose who paid for his education.  He claimed he worked his way through school, but that was disproved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why should I tell you?  The claim was made in the article without a shred of evidence to back it up.  I do happen to know that the Obama's used college loans to pay for much of their schooling and they only just recently paid them off with the proceeds from his books.  Since someone writing for Conservapedia is making the incredible claim that Obama was somehow able to acquire loans not available to most others, shouldn't a reference be provided so the claim will withstand scrutiny? --[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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- Any chance a reference could be provided for the claim concerning the flag pin?  The way it reads now makes the entry look like partisan whining.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Be clearer.  No one denies Obama avoided wearing a flag pin as he catered to the anti-war crowd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The claim, ' Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering' was made without a reference.  Any chance this opinion could be verified so the article doesn't sound like a smear?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The general tone of the article makes it look like a partisan smear campaign, not the encyclopedic scholarly work Conservapedia alleges to produce.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 17:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think your conclusion applies more to your own comments.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.''  I think this statement needs to be tweaked a bit.  While it's true that Malcolm X was a leader in the Nation of Islam (a radical black separatist group, not to be confused with the traditional Islam faith), by the time he wrote his autobiography (as told to Alex Haley, of Roots fame), he had rejected the Nation of Islam and converted to traditional Islam.  If Obama was inspired by the book to take up Malcolm's religion (which is a stretch, IMHO, as lots of people have read this book and not become Muslims), he would most likely have chosen traditional Islam like Malcolm did.  I think it's important to make that distinction clear.  (Unless this item is intended to suggest that Obama is a member of the Nation of Islam?  If so, it should be in a different section, as it's quite a different claim.)  FWIW, Malcolm X was assassinated in 1965, four years after Obama's birth.  Also, the title of the book is ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X''.  So I suggest this item be changed to something like:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama has written that reading ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X'' inspired him in his youth.  Malcolm X converted to traditional Islam after leaving the radical Nation of Islam (a black separatist group).&lt;br /&gt;
:Sounds considered and precise.  Most black muslims are NOT NOI, they are in fact sunni Muslim.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 20:11, 20 October 2008 &lt;br /&gt;
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== Obamas Grandmother==&lt;br /&gt;
Breaking news, Americans still forbidden to speak with Obamas grandmother. Now, we may never. Democrat Barack Obama is canceling nearly all his campaign events Thursday and Friday to fly to Hawaii to visit his suddenly ill 86-year-old grandmother.&lt;br /&gt;
Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters Monday that Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, who helped raise him, was released from the hospital late last week. But he says her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious.&lt;br /&gt;
Gibbs said Obama would return to the campaign trail on Saturday, though he was unsure where.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggesting corrections to 'atom bomb' sentance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally and this is just style, I do not like the '''Bold text''', it makes look rather alarming, not that we are not alarmed about this, but I think it is best to say the raw facts directly and people will know to be alarmed, instead of trying to shock people with text formatting into coming to their sense. I heard Conservapedia wants to get away from &amp;quot;that other encyclopedia&amp;quot;'s use of sensationism and tabloid style, so, maybe take off the bold. [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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other than this a very good job in the article, maybe it is too late to change direction your country is going, but at least people will know who had the facts before things all went wrong! [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I appreciate your comments but don't find them compelling.  &amp;quot;Atom bombs&amp;quot; is a familiar term; whether Clinton did likewise concerning terrorists is irrelevant; and bolding is obviously helpful for emphasis.  Thanks anyway and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:44, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I plan to stick to the 90-10 ratio here, and this is the first comment I've made, I did want to note that I agree with Eleger about &amp;quot;Atomic Bombs&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Nuclear Weapons&amp;quot; simply on the basis of the being more accurate terms. My person phrase of choice would be Nuclear arsenal though. Maybe nitpicking, but I think fair. -EternalCritic&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came to post that too; I also have a problem with &amp;quot;first&amp;quot; part of &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's atom bombs&amp;quot;. The most recent Democrat President was bad too. OTOH, something like &amp;quot;second person...&amp;quot; might distract from the point that Obama is a threat.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== How low can you go? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this meant as an &amp;quot;How To&amp;quot; article on character assassination? Though I do find some of the 'links' in the Obama and Islam hilarious, I'd thought that the conservative parts of the US had a shred of dignity left. It appears not to be the case. But keep feeding the lies to your fellow yes-men, the rest of us are quite amused.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We are not going low at all, You Who Did Not Leave Your Name. This entry is nothing about the truth about Barack Obama. Unfortunately, liberals like you will not find out until it is too late.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 21:20, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: ''&amp;quot;the rest of us are quite amused.&amp;quot;'' I am sure the leftwingers are quite amused of the nonstop Obama media lovefest. I am sure they are also amused at the whole disenfranchisement of voting in a Democracy thanks to ACORN. I am on a conservative website and I can't find a good Obama bio, shucks billybob, I need the Obama I can believe in, let's look at MSNBC... La La La, liberal fantasy land.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: In response to the first (unsigned) comment above, liberals enjoy deceit.  But not everyone is fooled by it, and liberals get very irritable when they see that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:57, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Berg Obama lawsuit==&lt;br /&gt;
Philip J. Berg announced 10/21 that Obama and the DNC “ADMITTED”, by way of failure to timely respond to Requests for Admissions, all of the numerous specific requests in the Federal lawsuit. Obama is “NOT QUALIFIED” to be President and therefore Obama must immediately withdraw his candidacy for President. [http://obamacrimes.com/]--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:26, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;admission&amp;quot; is nothing more than an acknowledgment that there was no response to his suit, so Berg is claiming that this qualifies as an admission that all his allegations are true.  Berg's now positioning this as &amp;quot;Obama admits he's not a citizen&amp;quot;, but that is legal spin, not reality, and I'd be hesitant to claim it as anything other than the latest round in a lawsuit.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 10:52, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There's a legal principle that the silent are understood to consent.  Obama's failure to deny Berg's request for admission means that he admits those items under the law.  This definitely should be included, and should be reason enough to disqualify him from the election.  [[User:QWest|QWest]] 16:03, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The judge in the Berg-Obama case has tossed out the suit [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jvhtmoNEnyP1Bu6Ol4zJsN94mlewD941NCJG0]--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 16:30, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Lefty DindaleP was right, though it shouldn't be hard to find a sympathetic judge in Democrat bastion of Philadelphia. If, if the bozo (obama) wins, this issue will not go away easily and will be justification for impeachment. Though, will be hard to impeach with super-majority liberal congress, God help us. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:35, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Actually, McCain has a similar issue, in that he was not born in the US, and arguably not on US territory.  Most every single scholar I've read in the last few days on this has said McCain's case will be a compelling one, legally, because no court in the land would dare say a person born out of this country to two citizens, one of whom was SERVING HIS COUNTRY, would be denied the right to be president.  As we become more and more of a mobile population, with people traveling and living overseas for extended periods of time (business, government, or travel) I think more children will be born of two natural citizens, but not on the US territory.  I will be curious to watch how the term &amp;quot;Natural Born Citizen&amp;quot; is defined by the Court under any case, Obama or McCain, just for the historical precedent it will set.  --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 12:41, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::: By the way, Qwest, there is no legal principal that &amp;quot;silence is admittance&amp;quot;.  Until or unless a Judge posts an Order compelling you to provide a particular document or telling you to agree or deny, you are not obligated to.  Some instances this might be used could include famous people being hit over and over again with frivolis lawsuits, just cause they have money or power.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 12:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::McCain was born in United States territory, which the Panama Canal Zone was prior to 1978, when by treaty it was turned over to Panama.  Anyone born in the United States, its territories, or its overseas military bases is an American citizen.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:18, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Yes, very much an American citizen.  The interesting language is &amp;quot;Natural Born Citizen&amp;quot;.  That is what will be interesting to see how it's defined.  I think it makes rational sense that anyone born to American parents should be &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot;, regardless of where they are born.  But the Framers didn't explain the terms.  (I'm not arguing, by the way, for any point.  I'm simply saying scholars say this issue of an American Citizen not born on US land has not yet been addressed - or rather, what do the words &amp;quot;natural born&amp;quot; mean, in that context.)  The lawsuit for McCain is totally irrelevant (even though the judge has not seen fit to toss it yet), since the Congress already said he is exempt per their own Resolution. --[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 13:23, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birthplace and Grammar Revisited==&lt;br /&gt;
''Barack Hussein Obama, II (allegedly born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961)''  Putting aside all issues about whether the &amp;quot;where Obama was born&amp;quot; issue is worth mentioning, given that it ''is'' going to be mentioned, let's get it right.  The issue (as a previous poster mentioned somewhere above), is not ''whether'' he was born - we all agree on that.  The issue is whether he was born ''in Honolulu''.  Thus the phrase should read: ''Barack Hussein Obama, II (born, allegedly in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961)'' --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:06, 23 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to add this external page and somehow link to this photo Democrat_Obama_during_the_Pledge.jpg   [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html No hand over heart from Obama during national anthem video]| Original footage ABC, now available through RawStory Media. [[Fair use]] --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:07, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== First Muslim President ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;If elected, Obama would likely become the first Muslim President&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
The evidence pointing to Obama being a Muslim can be included, but Barack Obama has said he is a Christian, and is a member of the United Church of Christ. So is saying he is likely to become a Muslim president meant to imply that Obama is secretly a Muslim? Perhaps a better phrased version of this sentence would be &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first president with a strong leaning toward Islam&amp;quot;. This is concurrent list that follows it, and is much less hypothetical like a good resource should be.  --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 21:52, 27 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Obama's claims to be a Christian are meaningless for three reasons; first, his distinctly non-Christian stance on issues such as [[abortion]] and the [[homosexual agenda]]; second, the radical, [[Marxism|Marxist]] theology preached by his church; and third, the [[Muslim]] concept of [[taqiyya]] outlined in the article. All the of the evidence points away from his being a Christian. [[User:SMichaels|SMichaels]] 16:06, 28 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Using Taqiyya as a defense is a joke. I'm not doubting it's authenticity, but I could claim the same thing about you and you would have no defense. See Salem Witch Trials for more information. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:42, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama's stances on [[abortion]] the [[homosexual agenda]] and [[marxism|Marxism]] do take credibility away from his Chrisitian stance, but Muslims are against [[abortion]], [[homosexual agena|homosexualiity]] and women's rights themselves. Furthermore, [[Marxism]] is against all religions, and if his church preaches Marxism, that makes him a Marxist Christian, not a Marxist Muslim. While I myself question his faith in Jesus, I sincerely doubt that he is a Muslim. And as for Taqiyya? Isn't that just an obscure segment of a doctrine practiced only by some Sunnis and considered hypocrisy by other muslims? [[user:justiceisblind|Justice Is Blind]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:The facts you gave are true, but you did not address my bringing up the idea of rewording the phrase. Having a set of words like &amp;quot;might be&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;could be&amp;quot; seem extremely unscholarly. Those facts you threw up also would correspond to him having a strong leaning toward Islam, minus the hypothetical thought he might be a Muslim. --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 23:03, 28 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The truth is what it is, whether you find it &amp;quot;unscholarly&amp;quot; or not.  We're not fooled here when politicians try to deceive the public about who they are and what they believe.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:00, 29 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why is it so hard to directly answer my question? First off, do not mix my words, I said the way the sentence is phrased is not scholarly, what is truth or not does not matter to me.  I don't really care what you say is the truth, and what you are or are not fooled by. I am just bringing up the option that as long as Obama himself and no mosques claim he is a member, perhaps it should be reworded to &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first president with a strong leaning toward Islam&amp;quot;, which also corresponds to the list that follows it, and is all based on fact no conjecture. The reader should have the right to make up their own mind after reading the examples which are listed. --[[User:anonymous123|anonymous123]] 22:18, 29 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There are strong evidence that Obama is a muslim and it has been layed out again and again.  He has never come out and said he's not a muslim among all the questions.  There for if elected, he will be the first muslim president ever elected.  It's as simple as that. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Sure he has.  [http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=0GFKqOf8EHQ]--[[User:KathrynMonroe|KathrynMonroe]] 22:23, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yes, he has. [http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2008/01/obama_mail]  --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:42, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Barack raises the bar ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The snide accusation that Barack Obama insulted America because he refused to hold his hand over his heart is completely off-target. (See photo at top of article). The human heart is just a pump , medically speaking, but culturally it represents the finest, most vital and sensitive parts of our soul. Barack is indicating precisely how much he loves America by putting not one, but both hands over that part of his body which truly encompasses the most vital, potent and sincere components of his soul. Bill Clinton might not be his biggest fan, but he would be the first to applaud this magnificent gesture. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 23:37, 31 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: ??? --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 09:36, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A hypothetical article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The vast majority of this article appears to be purely hypothetical and some of it seems to be fradulent, such as the pornographer donation and the speculation that Obama is a muslim. It is refreshing to see Obama in such a sober light, but I would encourage previous and future writers to be less interested in controversy, and to use legitimate information on the article instead.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Birth Certificate Controversy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The whole section should be reworded or entirely deleted. According to [http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04 this], there can be no more doubt about Obama's birthplace. The article also states, that Obama has no right to release his birth certificate, so all demands for him to do that can only be part of a smear campaign. --[[User:Ascat|Ascat]] 15:22, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Agreed.  For more confirmation see [http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu] and [http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Nov01/0,4670,InternetPoliticalRumors,00.html Fox News' article about Web political rumors.]  Having 'allegedly' made sense before all the facts were on the table, but now I'm removing the word because it lessens the strength of our true, verifiable criticisms if we leave it there. [[User:Jinkas|Jinkas]] 20:58, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:: What about the lawsuit against him about this? [http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=2313]--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 21:23, 1 November 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The lawsuits all fell through, because anyone looking at the official documents could tell that they were real, it was a manufactured controversy thanks to Hillary (boy I wish expletives were allowed on conservapedia). --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 16:49, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This issue remains valid even though rejected by the courts. Expect it to be revisited if he wins. Plus, allegiances owed to Keyna and Indonesia are part of the birth certificate controversy. Neither gossip nor the certificate proven true and Hawaii actions are unexplained, still. --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: My version doesn't violate comandments 1, 3, and 5 like the version that was removed. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 17:24, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: I don't like the edit, but I will let it remain. It does violate CP with personal opinion, (costly time and money during busy election season). --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:30, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The tone is bad I will admit, but that is all fact and not opinion. Is it an opinion or a fact that it takes tie to sit in court for several days? Is it an opinion or a fact that it takes money to pay court costs and extra lawyers? Is it an opinion or a fact that he is in a campaign where the outcome depends largely on the tie and money he spends campaigning? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 17:44, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::JPatt, could you explain &amp;quot;allegiance to Kenya?&amp;quot;  I don't understand this comment.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 17:57, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The original post on this page says &amp;quot;that Obama has no right to release his birth certificate.&amp;quot;  I do not believe this to be what the original article says.  I think it means simply that no state official has the authority to release publicly a birth certificate, not that Obama himself is unable to do so. [[User:TGeary|TGeary]] 20:15, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mr. Obama's Grandmother just died==&lt;br /&gt;
Without getting into politics, it would be nice to mention it respectfully on his page.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 17:33, 3 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do we have any reputable sources for that?  Given Obama's history of engaging in [[liberal deceit]], I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate a story like this to nullify attacks on Election Day. [[User:Neutronium|Neutronium]] 14:06, 4 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::May I say, comments like this are what hurt our republican party this year.  His politics may be liberal, but he's still a human and making fun of a death of a loved one is beneath a good Christian. {{unsigned|JeanJacques}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Neutronium, keep the parody to a minimum, please. That is simply heartless.&lt;br /&gt;
:::JeanJacques, yes, if it's relevant (do we have the mention of grandparents on anyone else's page? I don't know without looking) the we need it added in a respectful way. No matter what we think about Obama, he is a human and so is his grandmother. The was it is presented now, it almost seems as if we are implying that her death contributes to the controversy, when it clearly doesn't. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:54, 4 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Neutronium, there is a difference between being a cautious &amp;amp; prudent person, and being a paranoid, heartless person (i use the word &amp;quot;person&amp;quot; only due to the website rules of proper conduct). You would do well to realize that...AndrewM&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Is Why Obama Is Wining==&lt;br /&gt;
Articles like this make me think that Conservapedia is run by liberals. Burying real facts like Obama's membership in a Black Liberation Theology church, with silly lies like he is a &amp;quot;muslim&amp;quot;, only serve to discredit real objections to the Obama candidacy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed. Congratulayions Andy, you did more for the Democrats than you can possibly know. Thoroughly discrediting this site with ridiculous partisan accusations based onm the flimsiest of evidence meant that anything that was a genuine talking point just got lost among the nonsense. That many on the left pointed to this page to discredit the entire conservapedia idea just goes to show that you can go too far. Congratulations for playing your part in losing the election and being successfully gamed by the left, who knew that you would leave tenuous ridiculous nonsense up.&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's not badmouth the side that lost. Andy, you did your best, and I appreciate that. However, you can see from my comments from way back, that the Obama article was way too extreme, and included a number of outright falsehoods. Not saying that this lost the race for McCain, but going too extreme eventually starts to hurt. Like in business - a good CEO is someone who is willing to go to the edge of what is legal, but not cross that line. Those CEO's who stay on the edge are winners, those who go over, go to jail. Same thing here...I think the whole Republican campaign was just too darn negative, and put off a lot of undecided voters. Anyway, here's looking forward to President Schwarzenegger in 2012...&lt;br /&gt;
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: Both sides were overly negative, but in reality that's a natural thing for long campaigns. The longer it runs the less fresh the ideas seem. It gets repetetive so after a while, in order to keep things fresh, mudslinging becomes common. I honestly wish we had a much shorter election time frame. Like six months max. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 13:41, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I've just decided that this site's main contributors are probably liberals messing around with people. I bet there are some liberals somewhere getting a huge laugh at people who are seriously offended, or seriously believe half of these articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Is going to be the next president==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama has won the election, and I think this should be added to the page. [[User:Arthur205|Arthur205]] 00:12, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes he is, sadly. I encourage all of us to PRAY for the FATE OF OUR COUNTRY. Unfortunately, this page must be updated. [[User:LuvinGodDP|LuvinGodDP]] 10:10, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised no one has updated it yet, it's been over 12 hours since it's been announced. Honestly this sort of time lag on the internet is just sad. You would think that they would at least un-protect it in order for someone else to update it. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:13, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Barack Obama is the 44th President of the United States of America==&lt;br /&gt;
Article should be updated accordingly&lt;br /&gt;
: President-''Elect'', technically speaking. He won't be President until he's inaugurated, and we should hold off on explicitly saying he's the winner until the electoral college has voted (not that I'm pretending there's any real chance of 100+ faithless electors suddenly popping up to help McCain). Right now, he's just the likely winner of the presidential race. --[[User:JeremyDB|JeremyDB]] 12:24, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: Let's not disrespect McCain's gracious concession. We should put in that he's the President Elect and when he will be inaugurated. Let's at least be up to date. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 12:56, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The first section of this article has been updated to reflect that Obama is now president-elect, but the rest needs to be updated also.  For instance, the section entitled &amp;quot;Obama would be the first Muslim President&amp;quot; should now be &amp;quot;Obama will be the first Muslim President,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;will use the Koran to be sworn in,&amp;quot; etc. -[[User:Rfreeman|Rfreeman]] 18:04, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== What happening with the muslim section? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't see why it needs to be above the TOC, The TOC lets people find what they are looking for, which may very well be proof that he is a Muslim, and really should be on the first page for formatting reasons.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Obama's middle name (Hussein) references its namesake Husayn, who was the grandson of Muhammad, which most Christians would not retain.''&lt;br /&gt;
In this case the reference should be after the word Muhammad, because it does not reference the notion that christians would have there name changed, also it is his fathers name, and if he changed it it could negatively impact his relationship with his family, I would not consider this strong evidence. Seems like Opinion to me&lt;br /&gt;
*'' Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;'' You do know that the video cited as its source showed clearly that he was talking about a tactic that McCain could use, not his real faith (I strongly suspect Obama to be pretty apathetic to religion)&lt;br /&gt;
*''On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria, which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.'' If reading a book written in a muslim POV makes you a muslim than how do we know what is in this book, because we can't trust anyone who read it to not be a muslim. If he were seen praying out the the qran that would be another story entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.'' Pakistan is an islamic nation, the american way of saying it is a bastardized version, he is using the name the nation calls its self.&lt;br /&gt;
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I really think that this should be reworded in to prose and that it needs to be below the TOC.--[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 13:46, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Copyediting needed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that updating things like this as the news changes is tough, but:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Barack Hussein Obama II (born in Honolulu,[1][2] August 4, 1961), Democratic Party member, junior senator of the state of Illinois, and president-elect of the United States, winning the 2008 Election over Arizona Senator John McCain [3].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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is not a sentence... [[User:Human|Human]] 14:17, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I know they won't let me because I'm too new and can be a bit controversial, but I would love to rewrite the entire first paragraph. It has become such a muddled mess that it doesn't read well at all. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 14:27, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Muslim? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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That section of the article looks like its attempting to proove that he is a muslim. Why not simply say &amp;quot;some prominent christian sites including X and Y have suggested that Obama may be a muslim&amp;quot;. It currently looks like it's trying to make people think that he is a muslim, and that for some reason that's bad. What's wrong with muslims?--[[User:Newguy123|Newguy123]] 16:15, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think the point is that - no there is nothing wrong with being a Muslim but lying about it for political gain is a problem. [[User:AdamBeyer|AdamBeyer]] 16:32, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Again, that makes the presupposition being that someone lies when all you have is superficial, rather strained evidence to say he isn't lying.  Not very gracious on our part.  There are plenty of legitimate issues with Mr. Obama.  Living in gossip and innuendo and &amp;quot;he once made a mistake when talking&amp;quot; seems petty on our part.  Isn't it more important to emphasis why he is a socialist?  All we say is &amp;quot;he is&amp;quot;, not what that means, and how it could effect the country, etc.  It bothers me that this site emphasizes gossip.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 16:42, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Personally I dont think he is a Muslim however I am not going to kick up a fuss as I was already warned by Aschlafly (is he the boss?) for....something I did? Not sure what. [[User:AdamBeyer|AdamBeyer]] 16:45, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I think it's funny how at the beginning of the article it claims he is a muslim, and then at the end discusses his previous church and pastor. It even lists 1988 as his year of baptism despite the beginning of the article stating he didn't have a date for baptism, which for everyone here in the conservapedia zone seems to take as undeniable proof he is a super secret muslim spy out for your children and pets.&lt;br /&gt;
Seriously though, I've mentioned it above that having an article for the current president of the U.S. start out with a poor and unnecessary argument over his faith is ''unprofessional'' at best. The beginning makes no valid points, manages to insult Muslims as a whole, and also contains that stupid picture of Obama in a traditional Kenyan costume.--[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 23:17, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A Muslim President-elect! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Now that the unthinkable has occurred and Obama has duped the American People and stolen the election, he will become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]], and will probably use the [[Koran]] to be sworn into office.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It is widely believed that now he is President-elect, Obama will drop the tiresome pretence of being a Christian and produce his other wives from hiding, don a turban and a scimitar, pray buns-up five times a day on a Persian carpet while facing Mecca, have a minaret built on top of the White House from which he will personally play the role of the muezzin and call the faithful to prayer, will establish policy recommending that “the Zionist entity be driven into the sea”, and put bin Laden’s face on the American dollar. The week after that will probably be even worse.&amp;quot; If no one objects, I will make some such interpolations in the article proper. [[User:MylesP|MylesP]] 23:30, 5 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;70's terrorist&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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he is a &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot; end of story. once a terrorist, always a terrorist&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good point, [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]].  Thanks for the edit. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 00:24, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The man is a functioning member of society, an educator, a family man, who has condemns his past actions, and has worked greatly towards improving the lives of others through charity work. He was a part of a group that destroyed ''property'', which doesn't make him a terrorist because that would imply he did random acts of terror on ''people''. Blowing up statues and parts of buildings was wrong but they did not go after people, and no one was hurt or killed. To compare him to Bin Laden is ''despicable''. And to put a section about this man at the top of the page of Presidential-elect Obama who worked with him in an organization to help reduce poverty levels is neither well thought out or ''tactful''. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 08:46, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Except that the Weather Underground did in fact kill people - 3 of their own, in a bomb-making accident.  Sometimes that happens when you set off bombs, even if it's not what you had in mind.  I would put other property-destruction crimes such as cross burning in the terror category as well.  I do agree that Obama's association with Ayres is minimal, at best, and I have huge issues with all the guilt-by-association tactics employed by the McCain campaign.  I'm not taking a stand on the content of this article one way or another. I'm just trying to organize it and cite it as best I can. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't believe an accidental death of their own people should be considered &amp;quot;terror&amp;quot; though. People could technically die while making signs for a normal type of protest, not as likely, but an accident is an accident. Although I do think that some property destruction like cross burning could be argued to be terroristic because it is done in order to terrify a group of people and incite violence against that group. However I still think that what the weather underground did does not quite carry that same connotations. They were protesting a war, and doing so by costing the government money and drawing attention to their cause, at no time was a group of people targeted in a way that would indicate that they were in danger directly from a hostile organization, unless you were an office desk or a public statue/monument. To use the word &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot;, especially nowadays, in the case of Bill Ayers is misleading, and it is a word that should not be tossed around lightly. It seems that people believe that Ayers = Terrorist, so therefore he must have killed people or tried to kill people, and this article does little to correct this misconception. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:41, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== MInd Control? Really now? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The people who published this lost what little credibility they had when they published this. Repeating it on this page just makes you look bad. I mean an O looks like a crystal ball? First of all it also looks like an orange or a penny or anything else that is round and circular. Also, I think that crystal balls are the favorite of ''fortune tellers'' so unless Obama can predict the future (which I think might make him a ''better'' president) this doesn't mean much. --[[User:Rainedaye|Rainedaye]] 10:54, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree.  I am a practicing stage hypnotist (practicing because I still need work :) and I can tell you that most hypnotists use nothing but their voices and physical presence, and those who do use props traditionally use a pencil. [[User:SamuelA|SamuelA]] 13:21, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Absence of Dancing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dancing is a popular form of celebration and partying by all ethnicities.  But why is [[Barack Obama]] rarely seen dancing, or even allowing and attending dancing.  Perhaps I've missed it (please let me know if I have).  I know, there was one highly staged politically correct dance with Ellen DeGeneris as Obama was catering to her audience.  But where's the rest?&lt;br /&gt;
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One explanation is that the Islamic [[sharia]] disfavors dancing.[http://docstalk.blogspot.com/2008/10/islamic-scholars-denounce-dancing-say.html] --[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:08, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:When's the last time you went dancing, Andy? [[User:HDCase|HDCase]] 11:23, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpxJQABkSsQ Dancing in Puerto Rico]&lt;br /&gt;
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::so there it is... at least three different places where he's seen dancing. Here's my question: lets see you find videos of Mccain dancing! xP your Islamic assumption thingy holds no water since you can say the same for McCain! [[User:Ema|Ema]] 11:26, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ah! Ema, don't be fooled by this [[deceit]], he might secretly be a [http://www.dankphotos.com/whirling/ whirling dervish!] They're members of [[Sufi]] Islam, by the way. --[[User:Wikinterpreter|Wikinterpreter]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: It will be fascinating to see how long it takes people to wake up to who Obama really is.  Judging by the determined objections above, it may be quite a while for some of his supporters.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:06, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your argument is that he is a bad dancer so he must be a Muslim? Seriously Andrew, take a deep breath and relax, proving him to be a Muslim is not going to get him impeached, he has the presidency and that is that. In four years it might matter, but that means you have poor years to find less circumstantial evidence. --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 12:27, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, Brendanw, it is obviously not my argument that he is a &amp;quot;bad dancer.&amp;quot;  I think you understand my argument perfectly well and won't admit it.  Suit yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:31, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Brendan's right about one thing at least. All the evidence listed is either circumstantial or draws illogical conclusions. The one about him when he says he joins a church after a suggestion does not in any way imply him as a muslim, though it might imply him as a disingenuous Christian. The two are mutually exclusive. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 12:38, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::: Well please explain it to  me differently, initially you said he didn't dance, and now that we have three videos of it you say that he &amp;quot;dances with out dancing&amp;quot; what does that mean if not bad dancer? --[[User:Brendanw|Brendanw]] 12:45, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Andy's saying that, in those three videos, Obama isn't really ''dancing'', in the sense of crossing a line of Muslim (im)morality.  It's like being against swearing, but recognizing that words like &amp;quot;heck&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;geez&amp;quot; don't really cross that line.  That said, however, I did run across a video where [http://splicd.com/wzyT9-9lUyE/31/52 Obama dances] by anyone's definition.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:25, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::RossC, this video is obviously faked. [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 14:32, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I wonder if he will dance at his inaugural ball, if it gets to that point. (see: Berg) [[User:BHarlan|BHarlan]] 13:47, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti Americanism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised this hasn't been done already. Anti Americanism should be a given a very prominent place in this article.&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I like this idea because I feel the article is too fragmented and not organized. People are adding self contained ideas in various points in the article, especially add the top, which disrupts  the flow and readiblity&lt;br /&gt;
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If I make such an edit will I be banned? [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:01, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Muslim Faith&amp;quot; comment ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe Barack Obama is a Muslim or at least more sympathetic to them than Christians, but the &amp;quot;Muslim Faith&amp;quot; statement is taken out of context. I removed it as part of the evidence of him being Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpoAVAA1F30&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:06, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I don't like that video btw, I only posted it to show the full context [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:07, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On a side note, the entire section, for accuracy's sake, should be called &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is not a Christian&amp;quot; since the only parts that are not circumstantial are in regard to disingenuous Christianity. Beyond that the idea of him not changing his name making him muslim is ridiculous. He was named for his Father. Example from reality: my middle name is Paul. I received it fromt he name of my grandfather. I'm no longer Christian. But I don't change my middle name because I no longer believe Paul's words. I keep it because I love and respect my grandfather. [[User:EternalCritic|EternalCritic]] 13:14, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: I partially agree. Maybe there should be two sections. One detailing Anti-Christian facts and one for Pro-Muslim [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 13:17, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Schlafly reverted my change ... Why? [[User:Mike770781|Mike770781]] 14:18, 6 November 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (born in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu report]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the [[Democrat]] junior senator from Illinois (2004 - present) and president-elect of the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_wins_presidency/2008/11/04/147788.html?utm_medium=RSS]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On November 4, Obama became the first negro president in American history, when he and running mate [[Senator Joseph Biden]] won the 2008 Election over veteran Arizona Senator [[John McCain]], after spending a record-shattering $650 million.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/headlines/obama_fundraisng/2008/11/05/148218.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He will be sworn in as the 44th President on January 20, 2009, the first with Muslim, not Christian origins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama is not a socialist, but his own memoir admits that he chose his &amp;quot;friends carefully .... The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obama-affinity-marxists-dates-college-days/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He was previously a member of a socialist political party, and appears to have strong socialist tendencies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;WorldNetDaily.com, ''Newspaper shows Obama belonged to socialist party, Democrat's campaign denied allegations, but new evidence indicates membership'', October 24, 2008, by Aaron Klein [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78945]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The October 2008 crimes against Academy Award winner Jennifer Hudson's family highlight Obama's record against law and order, as he voted against making it a crime in Illinois &amp;quot;for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-crime-votes-are-fodder-for-rivals-2007-03-13.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The person of interest in the murders of Hudson's mother, brother, and 7-year-old nephew is the estranged husband of Hudson's sister and a convicted felon who had violated his parole conditions. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-julian-king-autopsy-1029,0,2752431.story]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;quot;'We've got 75,000 gang members - that's almost six gang members to one police officer.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;More people have been murdered in Chicago this year than in New York - even though New York's population is three times greater. When Hudson's mother, brother and nephew were killed last month, they pushed the city's homicide total for the year to 436 and counting. New York has had 430 homicides.&amp;quot; [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/01/2008-11-01_chicago_buried_in_murders.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]]. [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html See Video] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's nuclear weapons.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/obama-associate-bill-ayers-unrepentant-for-acts-of-terror/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Author and blogger Jack Cashill compared the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barak Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayres had ghostwritten Dreams.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;www.cashill.com, ''Who Wrote “Dreams From My Father&amp;quot;?'', by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008 [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm] Jack Cashill compared the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barack Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayers had ghostwritten ''Dreams''.  Cashill states that a computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed.  He did not address the possibility that Ayers had plagiarized from Obama's earlier book.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=77815]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dr. Peter Millican, who was hired to do a computer analysis comparing the two works, called the charges &amp;quot;very implausible&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/02/report-professor-paid-g-prove-ayers-wrote-obamas-autobiography/comments/]&amp;quot;Dr. Peter Millican -- a distinguished philosophy professor at Hertford College in Oxford, England -- ... was reportedly paid to use a computer software program to find suspected similarities between Obama's best-selling 2004 autobiography &amp;quot;Dreams from My Father&amp;quot; and Ayers' memoir &amp;quot;Fugitive Days.&amp;quot;  But Millican called the charges &amp;quot;very implausible&amp;quot; after a preliminary review of the two works.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Ayers admitted that he was &amp;quot;guilty as hell&amp;quot; in planting bombs in the 1970s, and that he has no regrets and felt he &amp;quot;should have done more.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver, where Obama received his Democratic Party nomination, recently criticized Obama as the &amp;quot;most committed&amp;quot; [[abortion]]-supporting candidate &amp;quot;since the ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' abortion decision in 1973.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14088&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, Obama was upset with the decision of the [[United States Supreme Court|Supreme Court]] not to strike down the law passed by the [[United States Congress]] to prohibit partial-birth abortion, believing that partial-birth abortion is guaranteed right of the [[United States Constitution|Constitution]] and that there should be no ability to legislate against it. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doctors from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons have stated that Obama uses techniques of mind control in his speeches and campaign symbols.  For example, one speech declared, &amp;quot;a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The doctors observe that &amp;quot;Obama's logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation ... [that] resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama did not recount his statement but instead replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although many rural counties went for McCain, Obama carried the state with 54.6% of the vote, compared to 44.3% for John McCain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&amp;amp;ElectionID=28&amp;amp;OfficeID=1]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In an attempt counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim is at best an exaggeration, as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Daily Standard, ''Obama Unplugged Lost without a Teleprompter'', by Dean Barnett, 02/12/2008[http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Insights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams from My Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Charitable Giving==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the years 2000 through 2004, before becoming a United States Senator and being in the public spotlight, Obama gave 1% of his earnings to charity even though he made $250,000 per year.  Since becoming a national figure, that amount has jumped to 6%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://patterico.com/2008/10/31/obama-and-bidens-charitable-giving-they-dont-want-to-spread-their-own-wealth-around/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Aunt is in the United States Illegally==&lt;br /&gt;
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At the end of October 2008 it came to light that Obama's aunt is in the United States illegally and has been since 2004 when her request for asylum was turned down.  She is living in public housing in Boston paid for by the government.  It does bring up why it took so long for this to surface and how Obama would handle the issue of illegal immigration as President if his own extended family flaunts the law and, of course, what did Obama himself know?&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680 Obama's Aunt Living in US Illegally]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Obama campaign has since stated that they had no knowledge of this situation and that they would return the money that she gave to his campaign. It is illegal to accept money from people who are not United States citizens.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/01/obama.aunt/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Statements==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama is said to have been born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961, but there is some evidence that he may have actually been born in Kenya. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legal career==&lt;br /&gt;
Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate career==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Accomplishments while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
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During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking regarding his knowledge of the Afghanistan conflict, Obama points the finger at U.S. troops and American policy &amp;quot;...just airraiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293365,00.html Barack Obama Caught on Tape Accusing U.S. Troops of 'Killing Civilians'] Fox News, August 15, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY See Video]&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Campaign financing=== &lt;br /&gt;
Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Secrecy=== &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
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# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Harvard]] College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
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# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
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# Selective Service Registration&lt;br /&gt;
# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
# Scholarly articles&lt;br /&gt;
# Access to his Grandmother (Obama's Grandmother has since passed away from cancer [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g3m4YaeYwDHXS6hHdZJi8pm6cZdAD947RJKO0])&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, John McCain's wife Cindy noted that Obama is running &amp;quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &amp;quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&amp;quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &amp;quot;...never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with a subtle reference to Alzheimer's disease when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &amp;quot;lost his bearings&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &amp;quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of the biggest distortions by Obama is that 95% of all taxpayers will get a tax cut. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama's 95% Illusion] Wall Steet Journal, October 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Without the distortion, Obama is proposing income re-distribution because those families that pay no taxes, one-third, will get money from the wealthy top 5%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another feature of the Obama campaign is the unruly audience. CNN reported in October of 2008 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3565842635.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, that people are calling John McCain a terrorist at these events. According to Sen. McCain, &amp;quot;I've heard the [label terrorist], unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element.&amp;quot; Other eyewitness reports are harsher &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://theinvigilator.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-front-of-disgust.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]].  The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers) ISBN 0307383415&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama) ISBN 0307455874&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak) ISBN 0786720573&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025&lt;br /&gt;
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On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
During  the democratic primaries the Clinton Campaign lead a smear campaign against the validity of Barrack Obama's Hawaii Birth cirtificate, claiming that it is false and that he is intelligible for presidency. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, some analysts claim that the birth certificate is false.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. The &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; which have not been shown to exist do not violate any constitutional or legal precedents and would make Sen. Obama a poor choice for president, not an invalid choice.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and paying a number of legal fees and taking several days out of his busy campaigning schedule the Obama campaign had the case dropped on the grounds that it lacked any supporting evidence. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=10815605&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The fact that Mr. Berg's dual arguments were mutually contradictory may also have contributed.&lt;br /&gt;
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The state of Hawaii announced that the document is legitimate and official, Since the state of Hawaii is the issuing body they have ultimate authority with regards to the matter.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; If states are no longer regarded as a valid authority on citizenship of those born within them then no one is eligible for president because no one can prove that they are natural born citizens.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Honorable James David Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Party]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.barackobama.com/ Offical Obama for President Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Southern Poverty Law Center</title>
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&lt;div&gt;==Southern Poverty Law Center==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Southern Poverty Law Center is a leftwing legal and activist organization created in 1971 in Montgomery, Alabama. It was founded by trial lawyers Morris Dees and Joe Levin, and its first president was civil rights leader Julian Bond, who would later take control of the NCAAP. SPLC supports a wide variety of liberal positions; it is pro-immigration, advocates multiculturalism and the homosexual agenda, supports racial preferences and defendants' rights, and advocates against what it considers &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This &amp;quot;controversial, liberal organization&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/dec98/southern19.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has been criticized in mainstream press for being extravagant in its spending, and using charges of racism to stiffle conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=984&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The last year that the Better Business Bureau's Philanthropic Advisory Service reported on the SPLC, in 1994, Dees and then Executive Director Edward Ashworth took home over $150,000 each, and the organization then possessed over $62 million in assets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zpub.com/notes/znote-splc.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It now controls over $200 million, and Dees pulls $286,000 in salary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/donate/financialinfo/financial.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2000, SPLC fundraised $27 million and made an additional $17 million from investments, but spent only $13 million on its civil rights program. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is no longer listed in the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=113&amp;amp;id=1bce9b1f-74e9-4c94-96e8-1ee2b519b0c4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; because that would require that &amp;quot;at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&amp;quot; The SPLC spent 89 percent of its total income on fund-raising and administrative costs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/pics_splc_expands.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to donations from liberals members, which are often ellicited by sensationalizing hate crimes, the center raises a lot of revenue seizing assets of violent groups, and by extorting groups that do not want to be accused of racism. In 1987, the SPLC won a major case on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, the mother of a Klan lynching victim. This was the invention of a clever new tactic-- suing domestic terrorist groups into bankruptcy-- but Ms. Donald benefitted very little. Of the $7 million verdict, only $50,000 went to her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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While SPLC organizes against obvious hate groups such as the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, it also lumps in conservative organizations in an attempt to intimidate them. For instance, SPLC considers Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) a hate group, because it opposes illegal immigration, and uses demonstrations as a method, which the SPLC deems intimidation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate&amp;amp;splcnewsletter=panewsgen-121107/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Similarly, the center labels the anti-immigration website VDARE as a hate group, because it argues against illegal immigration &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/07/freedom-folksblogs4borders-interview-with-peter-brimelow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Another example is the Council of Convservative Citizens, a conservative activist organization that advocates on behalf of states' rights and against immigration, communism, racial quotas and gun control. SPLC labels all members as racist because a minorty of members had decades-past connections to segregationist organizations. In fact, the CCC attracts such mainstream speakers such as former Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), Gov. Kirk Fordice (R-MS) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.), and engages in charitable and cultural events.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, the SPLC runs tolerance.org, a website that advocates multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda and &amp;quot;social justice&amp;quot;. It is designed with teachers in mind so that these ideas can influence young children in the classroom &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/activities/index.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For instance, teachers can click &amp;quot;classroom activities&amp;quot; then &amp;quot;early grades&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Tolerance Issues: Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual issues:&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;tolerance issues: Gender Issues&amp;quot; and arrive at a pro-alternative family article, among others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/current/event.jsp?cid=305&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its magazine is sent to over 400,000 eduators, and over 10,000 schools participate in its programs.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the 2008 nominee of the [[Democratic Party]] for [[President of the United States of America|president]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org Democratic Party website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has served as a freshman [[Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] since 2004. On August 23 he chose [[Senator Joseph Biden]] as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama pretends he's not a socialist, but his own memoir admits that he chose his &amp;quot;friends carefully .... The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/28/obama-affinity-marxists-dates-college-days/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama voted against strengthening law enforcement.  The [[gang]]-like [[murder]] of the 7-year-old nephew of the popular [[American Idol]] contestant Jennifer Hudson was discovered Oct. 27, 2008 in [[Chicago]], and the [[suspect]] is a convicted [[felon]] who had violated his [[parole]] conditions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-julian-king-autopsy-1029,0,2752431.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet &amp;quot;[[Obama]] was one of only three [[Illinois]] senators to [[vote]] ''against'' a proposal making it a criminal offense for [[convict]]s on [[probation]] or on [[bail]] to have [[contact]] with a street gang.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-crime-votes-are-fodder-for-rivals-2007-03-13.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]]. [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html See Video] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If elected, Obama would become the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's atom bombs.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/obama-associate-bill-ayers-unrepentant-for-acts-of-terror/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has not disclosed who really wrote his so-called autobiography, &amp;quot;Dreams From My Father,&amp;quot; but a computer analysis strongly suggests that Obama's friend, the terrorist Bill Ayers, was the author of key parts of the book.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;www.cashill.com, ''Who Wrote “Dreams From My Father&amp;quot;?'', by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008 [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm] Jack Cashill compared the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barak Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayres had ghostwritten ''Dreams''.  A computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of his friend's, the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=77815&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Ayers admitted that he was &amp;quot;guilty as hell&amp;quot; in planting bombs in the 1970s, and that he has no regrets and felt he &amp;quot;should have done more.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver, where Obama received his Democratic Party nomination, recently criticized Obama as the &amp;quot;most committed&amp;quot; [[abortion]]-supporting candidate &amp;quot;since the ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' abortion decision in 1973.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14088&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Doctors from the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons have observed that Obama uses techniques of mind control in his speeches and campaign symbols.  For example, one speech declared, &amp;quot;a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The doctors observe that &amp;quot;Obama's logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation ... [that] resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mind control&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama would be the first Muslim President==&lt;br /&gt;
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If elected, Obama would likely become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]], and could use the [[Koran]] to be sworn into office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christian Science Monitor, ''At swearing in, congressman [Keith Ellison, D Minnesota, who is a Muslim] wants to carry Koran. Outrage ensues.'', by Jane Lampman, December 07, 2006, retrieved on 10/16/2008  [http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1207/p01s03-uspo.html]&amp;quot;In Congress, newly elected representatives do not put their left hands on any book. They raise their right hands, and are sworn in together as the speaker of the House administers the oath of office. Some do carry a book, according to House historians, and some choose to photograph a private swearing-in afterward with their hand on the Bible.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama hoped to become President when he was sworn in as U.S. Senator in 2004, and did not use a Koran at that time.  Subsequently Democratic House member Keith Ellison established the precedent for being sworn in using the Koran, and there is no guarantee that Obama would not do likewise if sworn in as President. [http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html FactCheck.org, Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, ''Sliming Obama'', January 10, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The overwhelming evidence that he is a Muslim includes:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background and education are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references its namesake Husayn, who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]], which most Christians would not retain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Oxford Dictionary of First Names, 2nd edition (2007).[http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/277459/al-Husayn-ibn-Ali].  After Obama became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Many of Obama's statements about religion conflict with Christianity, leading one group to demonstrate with a 7-part video series, &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is Not a Christian.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianadc.org/pages/page.asp?page_id=23073&amp;amp;articleId=3249&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama downplays his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;The Daily Standard, ''Obama Unplugged Lost without a Teleprompter'', by Dean Barnett, 02/12/2008[http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams from My Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Socialism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has espoused the socialist idea of &amp;quot;spreading the wealth&amp;quot; in other words raising the tax rates on business and the wealthy to a burdensome level in order to redistribute their income to low income individuals, many of whom don't currently pay taxes.  The slogan &amp;quot;From each according to their ability to each according to their need&amp;quot; is an idea originally proposed by [[Karl Marx]].  In addition, his health care plan forces employers to purchase health care or pay a fine and will force many into a poorly run single payer system.  The socialization of health care will force taxpayers to pay for healthcare for those who refuse to purchase it themselves.  He favors closer ties with Cuba, China, and Venezuela, all abusive communist regimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legal career==&lt;br /&gt;
Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/362269,CST-NWS-sweet29.article 'I was a little nervous' at debate'], Lynn Sweet, &lt;br /&gt;
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During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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Speaking regarding his knowledge of the Afghanistan conflict, Obama points the finger at U.S. troops and American policy &amp;quot;...just airraiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293365,00.html Barack Obama Caught on Tape Accusing U.S. Troops of 'Killing Civilians'] Fox News, August 15, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY See Video]&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Campaign financing=== &lt;br /&gt;
Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Secrecy=== &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia Thesis paper&lt;br /&gt;
# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Harvard]] College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
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# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
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# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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# Access to his Grandmother&lt;br /&gt;
# List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, John McCain's wife Cindy noted that Obama is running &amp;quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &amp;quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&amp;quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &amp;quot;...never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with a subtle reference to Alzheimer's disease when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &amp;quot;lost his bearings&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &amp;quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of the biggest distortions by Obama is that 95% of all taxpayers will get a tax cut. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama's 95% Illusion] Wall Steet Journal, October 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Without the distortion, Obama is proposing income re-distribution because those families that pay no taxes, one-third, will get money from the wealthy top 5%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another feature of the Obama campaign is the unruly audience. CNN reported in October of 2008 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3565842635.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, that people are calling John McCain a terrorist at these events. According to Sen. McCain, &amp;quot;I've heard the [label terrorist], unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element.&amp;quot; Other eyewitness reports are harsher &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://theinvigilator.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-front-of-disgust.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]].  The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The fact is, is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religious affiliations==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist that she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well. Moreover, as a child I rarely came in contact with those who might offer a substantially different view of faith. My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.&lt;br /&gt;
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And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known. She had an unswerving instinct for kindness, charity, and love, and spent much of her life acting on that instinct, sometimes to her detriment. Without the help of religious texts or outside authorities, she worked mightily to instill in me the values that many Americans learn in Sunday school: honesty, empathy, discipline, delayed gratification, and hard work. She raged at poverty and injustice.}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579-4,00.html My Spiritual Journey] Time Magazine, October 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers) ISBN 0307383415&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama) ISBN 0307455874&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak) ISBN 0786720573&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025&lt;br /&gt;
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==Published criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some controversy over the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, an analyst at the Israel Insider website, has concluded based on a photographic analysis of the document that the birth certificate has been altered and is likely not Obama's true birth certificate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of &amp;quot;multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries&amp;quot; remains on the table. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama] Newsbusters.org, August 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and put the matter to rest, they seek to have the lawsuit dismissed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/29/fight-smears-website-admits-obama-was-kenyan-citizen-wheres-msm 'Fight the Smears' Website Admits Obama was Kenyan Citizen: Where's the MSM?] NewsBusters.org, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The_Honorable_James_David_Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black_Liberation_Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now_%28ACORN%29]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Party]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.barackobama.com/ Offical Obama for President Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Southern Poverty Law Center is a leftwing legal and activist organization created in 1971 in Montgomery, Alabama. It was founded by trial lawyers Morris Dees and Joe Levin, and its first president was civil rights leader Julian Bond, who would later take control of the NCAAP. SPLC supports a wide variety of liberal positions; it is pro-immigration, advocates multiculturalism and the homosexual agenda, supports racial preferences and defendants' rights, and advocates against what it considers &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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This &amp;quot;controversial, liberal organization&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/dec98/southern19.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has been criticized in mainstream press for being extravagant in its spending, and using charges of racism to stiffle conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=984&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The last year that the Better Business Bureau's Philanthropic Advisory Service reported on the SPLC, in 1994, Dees and then Executive Director Edward Ashworth took home over $150,000 each, and the organization then possessed over $62 million in assets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zpub.com/notes/znote-splc.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It now controls over $200 million, and Dees pulls $286,000 in salary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/donate/financialinfo/financial.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2000, SPLC fundraised $27 million and made an additional $17 million from investments, but spent only $13 million on its civil rights program. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is no longer listed in the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=113&amp;amp;id=1bce9b1f-74e9-4c94-96e8-1ee2b519b0c4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; because that would require that &amp;quot;at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&amp;quot; The SPLC spent 89 percent of its total income on fund-raising and administrative costs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/pics_splc_expands.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to donations from liberals members, which are often ellicited by sensationalizing hate crimes, the center raises a lot of revenue seizing assets of violent groups, and by extorting groups that do not want to be accused of racism. In 1987, the SPLC won a major case on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, the mother of a Klan lynching victim. This was the invention of a clever new tactic-- suing domestic terrorist groups into bankruptcy-- but Ms. Donald benefitted very little. Of the $7 million verdict, only $50,000 went to her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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While SPLC organizes against obvious hate groups such as the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, it also lumps in conservative organizations in an attempt to intimidate them. For instance, SPLC considers Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) a hate group, because it opposes illegal immigration, and uses demonstrations as a method, which the SPLC deems intimidation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate&amp;amp;splcnewsletter=panewsgen-121107/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Similarly, the center labels the anti-immigration website VDARE as a hate group, because it argues against illegal immigration &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/07/freedom-folksblogs4borders-interview-with-peter-brimelow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Another example is the Council of Convservative Citizens, a conservative activist organization that advocates on behalf of states' rights and against immigration, communism, racial quotas and gun control. SPLC labels all members as racist because a minorty of members had decades-past connections to segregationist organizations. In fact, the CCC attracts such mainstream speakers such as former Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), Gov. Kirk Fordice (R-MS) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.), and engages in charitable and cultural events.&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, the SPLC runs tolerance.org, a website that advocates multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda and &amp;quot;social justice&amp;quot;. It is designed with teachers in mind so that these ideas can influence young children in the classroom &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/activities/index.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For instance, teachers can click &amp;quot;classroom activities&amp;quot; then &amp;quot;early grades&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Tolerance Issues: Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual issues:&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;tolerance issues: Gender Issues&amp;quot; and arrive at a pro-alternative family article, among others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/current/event.jsp?cid=305&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its magazine is sent to over 400,000 eduators, and over 10,000 schools participate in its programs.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Political profiling''' is an activity certain &amp;quot;watchdog&amp;quot; organizations engage in on various [[computer]] bulletin boards, chat rooms and wikis.  A internet user's postings under either their real life identity of pseudonym may be &amp;quot;profiled&amp;quot; for their ideological convictions based upon editing patterns, interests, subject matter, common references, or declared beliefs.  The profile is then pigeon-holed into predetermined character assessments published by the watchdog organizations.  Political profiling has been referred to as the rough equivalent of profiling all Black males on the grounds that a certain percentage may commit violent crimes. In the sense that targeting minorities for special surveillance is called “racial profiling,” the so called &amp;quot;watchdog organizations&amp;quot; engage in &amp;quot;political profiling.&amp;quot;  Some watchdog groups hold law enforcement conferences, seminars,  training  sessions, and publish manuals on this “profiling” behavior. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Introduction==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Brandt]], founder of the [[Wikipedia-Watch]] website describes watchdog organizations that use political profiling as &amp;quot;private intelligence agencies&amp;quot;, and remarks as a private agency, they enjoy&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|no oversight, no requirements for probable cause prior to political spying, and no Privacy Act or Freedom of Information Act responsibilities to the public. By contrast, the FBI, CIA, and some major police departments in the U.S. are held accountable by various hard-won legal restrictions. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Daniel Brandt, [http://www.namebase.org/news02.html ''Cyberspace Wars: Microprocessing vs. Big Brother''], NameBase NewsLine', No. 2, July-August 1993.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Walter James O'Brien]] refers to them as &amp;quot;civilian agencies.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rjayco.com/obrien/ Walter James O'Brien], [http://www.rjayco.com/obrien/nazism.pdf ''Nazism, the Internet and Culture of Violence,] A preliminary survey toward preventing a third world war'', 1999, pgs. 3, 6-9, 12, 14, 61, 63, 68.  Written to compete for the Trench Gascoigne Prize offered by the Royal United Services Institute for Defence Studies (http://www.rusi.org); retrieved from http://rjayco.com/ 06/10/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  And Laird Wilcox uses similar language in discussing their activities,&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Any citizen can obtain their FBI files through the Freedom of Information Act....There is no such mechanism by which a private American citizen can obtain their files compiled by private Watchdog organizations.... You cannot correct errors...  they may have obtained information that government agencies cannot legally collect on its own. This... is something that goes on all the time and represents a serious civil liberties issue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://spencer.lib.ku.edu/exhibits/wilcox/5.html Laird Wilcox], ''The Watchdogs: A Close Look at Anti-Racist &amp;quot;Watchdog&amp;quot; Groups'', Editorial Research Service, 1999, pg. 15. ISBN 0-993592-96-5. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Some watchdog organizations have been criticized for the misuse of journalist shield laws to mask their domestic spying operations.  [[Robert J. Friedman]] of the ''[[Village Voice]]'' commented:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Journalists place information in the public domain where they are held accountable for falsehoods, distortions, and libel. And for the most part, journalists don’t share their files with domestic police agencies... many of [the &amp;quot;watchdog&amp;quot; agency] files are not open to public scrutiny, false information collected by ideologically biased researchers cannot be corrected. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Robert J. Friedman, ''The Anti-Defamation League is Spying On You'', The Village Voice, 11 May 1993. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Wilcox observes the watchdog's publications are designed to support the ideological agenda of a like minded group, and not provide “news.”  Their publishing activities are only a small part of its program, most of which is fundraising, lobbying, and maintaining enemies lists. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Laird Wilcox, ''The Watchdogs'', 1999, pgs 54-56.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wilcox, who is cited by the ''Military Law Review'' as one the &amp;quot;foremost expert analysts of right and left-wing extremism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MAJ Walter M. Hudson, [http://www.loc.gov/rr/frd/Military_Law/Military_Law_Review/pdf-files/277C75~1.pdf ''Racial Extremism in the Army''], The Military Law Review, Vol 159 (Mar 99), pg. 7, Department of the Army, Washington, DC. Army Pamphlet No 27-100-159.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and has published numerous books and articles on various extreme groups in America since the early 1960s, including ''American Extremists: Militias, Supremacists, Klansmen, Communists and Others'' by Prometheus Books, chronicles the excesses of the watchdog industry, and asks, &amp;quot;Who is watching the Watchdogs?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|The simple fact is there are money and careers to be made....an entrenched industry exists... that has attracted bullying, moralizing fanatics, whose identity and livelihood depend upon growth and expansion...There is a [[humanist]] anti-racism that focuses on reconciliation and healing, that works to bring people together, that functions openly and honestly without the use of dossiers, spies, specious lawsuits, [[disinformation]], and that recognizes the rights of individuals whether they agree with one another or not. This is the anti-racism of good neighbors, of people helping people, of community goodwill, and of the realization that we are all human beings....&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand there is a vindictive and corrupt anti-racism that focuses on paybacks and punishment, that demonizes and degrades its critics, that attempts to carve out special rights for its constituency, that opposes free and open discussion of ideas, that attempts to silence, censor and stifle its opposition through intimidation and harassment, and encourages law enforcement scrutiny of opponents because of their alleged values, opinions and beliefs. This kind of anti-racism is more dangerous than the problem it purports to remedy, and this is the anti-racism that tends to characterize the Watchdog organizations.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Wilcox successfully demonstrates many of the watchdog's enemies are actually imagined enemies.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Watchdog organizations tend to define themselves in terms of their opposition, i.e., the various individuals and organizations they call “extremist,” and depend upon this opposition to justify their existence, their intense hatred of their enemies, and their often questionable fund-raising activities.  Moreover, Watchdog groups tend to exaggerate the divisions that exist in American society. In fact, the supposed polar opposites on the [[political spectrum|ideological spectrum]] have far more in common than they do in opposition. ...studies suggest that extremism is overestimated in American politics and that the differences between left and right are partly imagined.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Wikipedia]] project has worked in close collaboration with several alleged humanitarian &amp;quot;watchdog&amp;quot; groups.  The &amp;quot;Notable Wikipedia Experts&amp;quot; entrusted with this venture [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-December/033813.html] are immune to all Wikipedia's published policies, ''WP:Attribution'', ''WP:No self promotion'', ''WP:Experts do not hold a place of privilege'', ''WP:Citing self'', ''WP:No personal attacks'', ''WP:Civility'', and ''WP:Wikipedia is not a battleground'' are the most often cited policy violations that go unenforced against these private organizations which are granted license to publicly slander at will. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chirsi Arabia, [http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=10352 Leftist Lie Factory], ''FrontPageMagazine.com'', October 16, 2003.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=6799&amp;amp;st=0&amp;amp;p=22830&amp;amp;#entry22830]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Links and Ties==&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''fallacy of composition'' consists in reasoning improperly from a property of a member of a group to a property of the group itself.... It occurs in two varieties: First, it falsely extrapolates a quality of one group member to all group members....Second, it is possible to transfer a quality of a member to the group itself.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''fallacy of division'' is the converse of the ''fallacy of composition''. It occurs when somebody reasons falsely from a quality of the group to a quality of a member of group.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The converse ''fallacy of difference'', on the other hand, renders a special judgment upon a group for a quality which is not special to it.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''fallacy of the perfect analogy'' consists in reasoning from a partial resemblance between two entities to an entire and exact correspondence. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Hacket Fisher, ''Historians’ Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical Thought'',  New York: Harper Torchbooks, 1970, 219-223.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Consider the following account of the “links and ties” of [[U. S. Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas]] offered by Chip Berlet of Political Research Associates. Berlet notes correctly that Thomas is on the editorial board of the ''Lincoln Review'', a quarterly black conservative publication of the Lincoln Institute. Berlet claims “it is a far right group that has worked in coalition with… fascist and anti-Semitic groups.”&lt;br /&gt;
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Berlet goes on to “link” Lincoln Institute head J. A. Baker with the Indiana [[Ku Klux Klan]] by virtue that Baker is on the board of the Council for National Policy and another board member is allegedly a former member of the Indiana Ku Klux Klan. Finally, Berlet says, The Lincoln Institute, with which Clarence Thomas has been affiliated in an official policy for close to ten years, was also a member group in the Coalition for Peace Through Strength. As author Russ Bellant discusses, the Coalition includes a number of racist, pro-Nazi and anti-Semitic groups.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chip Berlet, “A Few Facts About Clarence Thomas,” published by Rock Out Censorship (1997).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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“Links and ties” is another name for ''argumentum ad hominem'' or [[guilt by association]],&lt;br /&gt;
which has both legitimate and illegitimate uses. If someone has been an active member of  an ideological organization for many years, or a regular writer for an ideological publication, or routinely and regularly associates with a particular ideological crowd while professing sympathy and solidarity with them, and this has bona fide bearing on a particular issue, then the “link” or “tie” is probably significant.&lt;br /&gt;
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This kind of analysis is subject to abuse, however.  For ideological thinkers, a mere hint of “links and ties” may lead to great intuitive leaps that have no basis in fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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Marxist or Nazi groups often demand great compliance with doctrine. It is unlikely that [[Chicago Area Friends of Albania]], for example, would let someone become a founding member unless that person had been in substantial agreement with its ideological program. In most cases the existence of “links and ties” or past political associations should be viewed as a statement of where people were at that particular time in their lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Profiled groups==&lt;br /&gt;
The following two subsections, &amp;quot;[[Theocratic]]&amp;quot; and [[Wise use]], are taken from ''Understanding the Right Wing'', by Scot Nakagawa &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scot Nakagawa, [http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=8210562338425&amp;amp;lang=en-US&amp;amp;mkt=en-US&amp;amp;FORM=CVRE ''Understanding The Right Wing''], When Democracy Works, n.d.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; written about 1999 and lists various groups classified as &amp;quot;right wing&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;proto-fascist&amp;quot;.  This list and accompanying search engine terms have been expanded in the following years.  Nakagawa accredits [[Political Research Associates]] ([[Chip Berlet]], Surina Khan, and [[Jean Hardisty]] [retired], the Coalition for Human Dignity (Jonathan Mozzochi, Steven Gardiner, and Gillian Leichtling), [[People for the American Way]], The Institute for First Amendment Studies, Sara Diamond, and the Western States Center (Tarso Ramos).&lt;br /&gt;
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All these groups and the person associated with them have been the target of &amp;quot;political profiling&amp;quot;, as discussed by Laird Wilcox.  Dr. Dobson and Paul Weyrich, among several others, have been viciously smeared in Wikipedia, in violation of Wikipedia's own policies on Neutral Point of View {NPOV}, WP:What Wikipedia is not (WP:NOT), WP:Attribution, and a host of other policies.  Wikipedia claims immunity under Sec. 230 of the Internet Decency Act of 1998 which exempts a hosting facility from liability for content.&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;'''Theocratic'''&amp;quot;===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Concerned Women for America]] (CWA) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian Coalition]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Focus on the Family]] ([[Dr. James Dobson]])&lt;br /&gt;
*[[American Family Association]] (AFA) &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Traditional Values Coalition]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Free Congress Foundation]] ([[Paul Weyrich]]) [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&amp;amp;showtopic=7075&amp;amp;view=findpost&amp;amp;p=23788]&lt;br /&gt;
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==='''Wise use'''===&lt;br /&gt;
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*Alliance for America&lt;br /&gt;
*Evergreen Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
*Sea Lion Defense Fund &lt;br /&gt;
*Environmental Conservation Organization &lt;br /&gt;
*[[People for the West]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[National Wetlands Coalition]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;'''Hate groups'''&amp;quot;===&lt;br /&gt;
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The organizations listed below were taken from the Southern Poverty Law Center's ''Intelligence Report'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chip Berlet, [http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=50 ''Into the Mainstream], SPLC ''Intelligence Report'', Summer 2003&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; written by Berlet.  Berlet classifies these groups as &amp;quot;[[hate groups]]&amp;quot;, and some of the defamatory smears have made their way into Wikipedia, despite numerous violations of Wikipedia's stated policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The American Cause&lt;br /&gt;
*[[American Enterprise Institute]] (AEI)&lt;br /&gt;
*American Immigration Control Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Castle Rock Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
*Center for American Unity&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Center for the Study of Popular Culture]] ([[David Horowitz]])&lt;br /&gt;
*Federation for American Immigration Reform&lt;br /&gt;
*Free Congress Foundation (Paul Weyrich)&lt;br /&gt;
*Institute for the Study of Man&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ludwig von Mises Institute]] (LvMI) [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=6796&amp;amp;st=0&amp;amp;p=22861&amp;amp;#entry22861]&lt;br /&gt;
*New Century Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John M. Olin Foundation]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pioneer Fund]] [http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=106#14]&lt;br /&gt;
*Rockford Institute&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scaife Foundations]]&lt;br /&gt;
*U.S. Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Various profiles==&lt;br /&gt;
The profiling process of these watchdog organizations begins with identifying certain organizations, both high profile and marginal, determine their ideological content measured against the ideological views and prejudices of the watchdogs themselves, then link them in some way to extremism through an outrageous guilt by association smear.  Numerous examples abound over the past 10 years, and Wikipedia has increasing become the seat of their operations.  Examples include,&lt;br /&gt;
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*Daniel Brandt was the victim of a much publicized ongoing defamation based upon his split with an anti-Trotskyite cabal on the extreme left more than 15 years ago;&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. James Dobson is linked to racism and the Ku Klux Klan [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_Research_Council#Racism_allegations] through a convoluted series of accusations [[Dominionism#The_.22Christer.22_controversy|intended to undermine the so-called &amp;quot;Christian Right]]&amp;quot; (which is interchangeable with &amp;quot;Christian Fascism&amp;quot; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_fascism#Christianity_in_the_United_States] in Wikipedia); &lt;br /&gt;
*Senator Thad Cochrane is slandered with invective aimed at another person;&lt;br /&gt;
*Paul Weyrich is linked to &amp;quot;Christian Fascism&amp;quot; which is defined as a Protestant movement, despite his being a devout Catholic, because of Weyrich's organizational work for the Republican party beginning in the late 1970s; [http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/6/5/134631/4277]&lt;br /&gt;
*David Horowitz is slandered as operating a &amp;quot;hate group&amp;quot; because of opposition to reparations; [http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=106#7]&lt;br /&gt;
*The Ludwig von Mises Institute is profiled as &amp;quot;neo-confederate&amp;quot;, allegedly advocating segregartion, slavery, and lynchings because an author dared criticize Abraham Lincoln for passing an [[income tax]] during the [[Civil War]]. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises_Institute#Historical_views]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Wise use movement targeted==&lt;br /&gt;
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A particularly shocking and dangerous example of [[guilt-by-association]] targeting and profiling occurred when two New Mexico grandmothers found themselves suspected of being [[terrorist]]s after appearing on a radio talk show where they criticized the federal government and the United Nations. Kay Stone and Jean Vallance were investigated by New Mexico Department of Public Safety (State Police) after appearing on KINN radio in Alamagordo in June, 1998.&lt;br /&gt;
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State police Lt. Bill Bowers called the station and spoke with talk show host Mike Shinaberry, who was asked about the couple and Maude Rathgeber, the Otereo [[Republican party]] chairwomen, who had also been on the show in the past. According to Shinaberry:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|It bothered me that anyone would be the subject of an investigation simply because they got on the radio and said what they believed... None of them ever came close to espousing violence. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Parks, ''NM Women Worry They’re On Secret List ‘Radicals’'', Dallas Morning News, 13 September 1998.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''The Dallas Morning News'', which covered the story from the beginning:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Maj. Michael Francis, another state police officer...said the inquiries into Ms. Stone and Ms. Vallance sprang from the activities of a Domestic Terrorism Task Force, comprising local, state and federal agents. }}&lt;br /&gt;
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The two women were also investigated by the military officials at a nearby Air Force Base: &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Six days later, on June 17, Mrs. Vallance said she received a phone call from Special Agent Amanda Finerty, from the office of special investigations [OSI] at Holloman Air Force Base.&lt;br /&gt;
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Mrs. Vallance, a retired nurse who is married to a civilian employee at Holloman, said Agent Finerty asked about her religious affiliation and whether anyone was “planning something” against German pilots [stationed at the base].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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All of this came about by the issuance of a manual entitled ''The Extreme Right: An Overview'' containing in large part material from a [[leftist]] &amp;quot;Watchdog&amp;quot; organization to law enforcement agencies. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Laird Wilcox, ''The Watchdogs'', 1999, pg. 69.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to news sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|The 73-page document included profiles of fringe groups such as the Ku Klux Klan, as well as skinheads and extremists who believe each race should have its own land in the United States. Lumped into the manual’s description of terrorists, racists and other pariahs is an excerpt on the so-called “[[wise use]]” movement, which advocates more local control over federally owned lands. }}&lt;br /&gt;
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Shinaberry was spurred to investigate this manual. Speaking again with Lt. Bill Bowers he was told “that the federal government had asked state police to create a -- he used the term intelligence database’ -- to make lists of people who might be radicals.” He also noted that the manual suggests an anti-government continuum of groups that apparently run from the most peaceful to those with a reputation for violence, with no distinction made between them. As it happened the contents of the manual were leaked to the public after the police inquiries into the two women.&lt;br /&gt;
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Ranchers and loggers erupted in anger at the manual’s juxtaposition of the [[wise use]] movement with Nazi and Klan groups....Local government officials, concerned about the impact of federal policies on rural economies, also objected to the manual.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|They labeled us as dissidents when all we went to do is participate in decisions about how federal lands are used,” said Adam Polley, a Catron County official in western New Mexico. }}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Darren White]], the Governor’s cabinet secretary for the state police, apologized for the manual and issued a written apology dated 9 July 1998:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|I recognize that across New Mexico thousands of farmers, ranchers, miners, loggers and others are committed to preserving a way of life free from unnecessary regulation,” he wrote. “I believe free speech and the spoken word sustain our freedom. }}&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Watchdog&amp;quot; organization manual and others like it continue to be circulated among law enforcement officials nationwide, even though its effect is to target ordinary American citizens on the basis of the values, opinions and beliefs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Laird Wilcox, ''The Watchdogs'', pg. 70. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Wise use movement was the target of political profiling and placed on the this leftist Watchdog list because if frequently takes positions contrary to the [[Sierra Club]] and the [[Wilderness Society]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.attacreport.com/ar_terror/tframe.php?region=namerica&amp;amp;group=ef ATTAC Report].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bell Curve]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:politics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MikeMike</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Electron&amp;diff=542490</id>
		<title>Electron</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Electron&amp;diff=542490"/>
		<updated>2008-10-25T04:25:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: make the numbers look neater&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;An '''electron''' is one of the fundamental subatomic particles which exists with a negative electrical charge and an extremely small mass when compared to protons and neutrons. It is a [[lepton]] with a rest mass of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;1.35290797*10^{-30}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;lbs and carries the [[fundamental charge]] of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;-1.10214925*10^{-14}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; C, and a [[hypercharge]] of -1. An electron has a spin of approximately 1/2 and obeys Fermi-Dirac Statistics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Gribbin: ''Q is for Quantum''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Electron pairs within an orbital system have opposite spins due to the [[Pauli Exclusion Principle]]; this characteristic spin pairing allows electrons of the same quantum orbital to exist together, as the opposing magnetic dipole moments induced by each of the electrons ensures that they are attracted together.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Protons]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Neutrons]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[category:physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MikeMike</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542467</id>
		<title>Southern Poverty Law Center</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542467"/>
		<updated>2008-10-25T03:25:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Southern Poverty Law Center is a leftwing legal and activist organization created in 1971 in Montgomery, Alabama. It was founded by trial lawyers Morris Dees and Joe Levin, and its first president was civil rights leader Julian Bond, who would later take control of the NCAAP. SPLC supports a wide variety of liberal positions; it is pro-immigration, advocates multiculturalism and the homosexual agenda, supports racial preferences and defendants' rights, and advocates against what it considers &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This &amp;quot;controversial, liberal organization&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/dec98/southern19.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has been criticized in mainstream press for being extravagant in its spending, and using charges of racism to stiffle conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=984&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last year that the Better Business Bureau's Philanthropic Advisory Service reported on the SPLC, in 1994, Dees and then Executive Director Edward Ashworth took home over $150,000 each, and the organization then possessed over $62 million in assets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zpub.com/notes/znote-splc.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It now controls over $200 million, and Dees pulls $286,000 in salary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/donate/financialinfo/financial.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2000, SPLC fundraised $27 million and made an additional $17 million from investments, but spent only $13 million on its civil rights program. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is no longer listed in the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=113&amp;amp;id=1bce9b1f-74e9-4c94-96e8-1ee2b519b0c4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; because that would require that &amp;quot;at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&amp;quot; The SPLC spent 89 percent of its total income on fund-raising and administrative costs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/pics_splc_expands.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to donations from liberals members, which are often ellicited by sensationalizing hate crimes, the center raises a lot of revenue seizing assets of violent groups, and by extorting groups that do not want to be accused of racism. In 1987, the SPLC won a major case on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, the mother of a Klan lynching victim. This was the invention of a clever new tactic-- suing domestic terrorist groups into bankruptcy-- but Ms. Donald benefitted very little. Of the $7 million verdict, only $50,000 went to her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While SPLC organizes against obvious hate groups such as the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, it also lumps in conservative organizations in an attempt to intimidate them. For instance, SPLC considers Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) a hate group, because it opposes illegal immigration, and uses demonstrations as a method, which the SPLC deems intimidation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate&amp;amp;splcnewsletter=panewsgen-121107/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Similarly, the center labels the anti-immigration website VDARE as a hate group, because it argues against illegal immigration &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/07/freedom-folksblogs4borders-interview-with-peter-brimelow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Another example is the Council of Convservative Citizens, a conservative activist organization that advocates on behalf of states' rights and against immigration, communism, racial quotas and gun control. SPLC labels all members as racist because a minorty of members had decades-past connections to segregationist organizations. In fact, the CCC attracts such mainstream speakers such as former Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), Gov. Kirk Fordice (R-MS) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.), and engages in charitable and cultural events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the SPLC runs tolerance.org, a website that advocates multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda and &amp;quot;social justice&amp;quot;. It is designed with teachers in mind so that these ideas can influence young children in the classroom &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/activities/index.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For instance, teachers can click &amp;quot;classroom activities&amp;quot; then &amp;quot;early grades&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Tolerance Issues: Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual issues:&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;tolerance issues: Gender Issues&amp;quot; and arrive at a pro-alternative family article, among others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/current/event.jsp?cid=305&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its magazine is sent to over 400,000 eduators, and over 10,000 schools participate in its programs.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MikeMike</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542462</id>
		<title>Southern Poverty Law Center</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542462"/>
		<updated>2008-10-25T03:12:33Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;The Southern Poverty Law Center is a leftwing legal and activist organization created in 1971 in Montgomery, Alabama. It was founded by trial lawyers Morris Dees and Joe Levin, and its first president was civil rights leader Julian Bond, who would later take control of the NCAAP. SPLC supports a wide variety of liberal positions; it is pro-immigration, advocates multiculturalism and the homosexual agenda, supports racial preferences and defendants' rights, and advocates against what it considers &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This &amp;quot;controversial, liberal organization&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/dec98/southern19.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has been criticized in mainstream press for being extravegant in its spending, and using charges of rasicm to stiffle conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=984&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last year that the Better Business Bureau's Philanthropic Advisory Service reported on the SPLC, in 1994, Dees and then Executive Director Edward Ashworth took home over $150,000 each, and the organization then possessed over $62 million in assets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zpub.com/notes/znote-splc.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It now controls over $200 million, and Dees pulls $286,000 in salary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/donate/financialinfo/financial.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2000, SPLC fundraised $27 million and made an additional $17 million from investments, but spent only $13 million on its civil rights program. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is no longer listed in the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=113&amp;amp;id=1bce9b1f-74e9-4c94-96e8-1ee2b519b0c4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; because that would require that &amp;quot;at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&amp;quot; The SPLC spent 89 percent of its total income on fund-raising and administrative costs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/pics_splc_expands.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to donations from liberals members, which are often ellicited by sensationalizing hate crimes, the center raises a lot of revenue seizing assets of violent groups, and by extorting groups that do not want to be accused of racism. In 1987, the SPLC won a major case on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, the mother of a Klan lynching victim. This was the invention of a clever new tactic-- suing domestic terrorist groups into bankruptcy-- but Ms. Donald benefitted very little. Of the $7 million verdict, only $50,000 went to her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While SPLC organizes against obvious hate groups such as the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, it also lumps in conservative organizations in an attempt to intimidate them. For instance, SPLC considers Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) a hate group, because it opposes illegal immigration, and uses demonstrations as a method, which the SPLC deems intimidation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate&amp;amp;splcnewsletter=panewsgen-121107/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Similarly, the center labels the anti-immigration website VDARE as a hate group, because it argues against illegal immigration &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/07/freedom-folksblogs4borders-interview-with-peter-brimelow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Another example is the Council of Convservative Citizens, a conservative activist organization that advocates on behalf of states' rights and against immigration, communism, racial quotas and gun control. SPLC labels all members as racist because a minorty of members had decades-past connections to segregationist organizations. In fact, the CCC attracts such mainstream speakers such as former Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), Gov. Kirk Fordice (R-MS) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.), and engages in charitable and cultural events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the SPLC runs tolerance.org, a website that advocates multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda and &amp;quot;social justice&amp;quot;. It is designed with teachers in mind so that these ideas can influence young children in the classroom &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/activities/index.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For instance, teachers can click &amp;quot;classroom activities&amp;quot; then &amp;quot;early grades&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Tolerance Issues: Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual issues:&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;tolerance issues: Gender Issues&amp;quot; and arrive at a pro-alternative family article, among others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/current/event.jsp?cid=305&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Its magazine is sent to over 400,000 eduators, and over 10,000 schools participate in its programs.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MikeMike</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542458</id>
		<title>Southern Poverty Law Center</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542458"/>
		<updated>2008-10-25T03:06:45Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: first draft content&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The Southern Poverty Law Center is a leftwing legal and activist organization created in 1971 in Montgomery, Alabama. It was founded by trial lawyers Morris Dees and Joe Levin, and its first president was civil rights leader Julian Bond, who would later take control of the NCAAP. SPLC supports a wide variety of liberal positions; it is pro-immigration, advocates multiculturalism, supports racial preferences and defendants' rights, and advocates against what it considers &amp;quot;hate groups&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This &amp;quot;controversial, liberal organization&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/dec98/southern19.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; has been criticized in mainstream press for being extravegant in its spending, and using charges of rasicm to stiffle conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cofcc.org/?p=984&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The last year that the Better Business Bureau's Philanthropic Advisory Service reported on the SPLC, in 1994, Dees and then Executive Director Edward Ashworth took home over $150,000 each, and the organization then possessed over $62 million in assets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zpub.com/notes/znote-splc.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It now controls over $200 million, and Dees pulls $286,000 in salary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/donate/financialinfo/financial.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2000, SPLC fundraised $27 million and made an additional $17 million from investments, but spent only $13 million on its civil rights program. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3a3e5cb925c4.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It is no longer listed in the Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://us.bbb.org/WWWRoot/SitePage.aspx?site=113&amp;amp;id=1bce9b1f-74e9-4c94-96e8-1ee2b519b0c4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; because that would require that &amp;quot;at least 50 percent of total income from all sources, should be applied to programs and activities directly related to the purposes for which the organization exists.&amp;quot; The SPLC spent 89 percent of its total income on fund-raising and administrative costs. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theamericanresistance.com/thousand_words/pics_splc_expands.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition to donations from liberals members, which are often ellicited by sensationalizing hate crimes, the center raises a lot of revenue seizing assets of violent groups, and by extorting groups that do not want to be accused of racism. In 1987, the SPLC won a major case on behalf of Beulah Mae Donald, themother of a Klan lynching victim. This was the invention of a clever new tactic-- suing domestic terrorist groups into bankruptcy-- but Ms Donald benefitted very little. Of the $7 million verdict, only $50,000 went to her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanpatrol.com/SPLC/ChurchofMorrisDees001100.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
While SPLC organizes against obvious hate groups such as the KKK or Aryan Brotherhood, it also lumps in conservative organizations in an attempt to intimidate them. For instance, SPLC considers Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) a hate group, because it opposes illegal immigration, and uses demonstrations as a method, which the SPLC deems intimidation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2007/12/11/fair-crossing-the-rubicon-of-hate&amp;amp;splcnewsletter=panewsgen-121107/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Similarly, the center labels the anti-immigration website VDARE as a hate group, because it argues against illegal immigration &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2008/10/07/freedom-folksblogs4borders-interview-with-peter-brimelow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Another example is the Council of Convservative Citizens, a conservative activist organization that advocates on behalf of states' rights and against immigration, communism, racial quotas and gun control. SPLC labels all members as racist because a minorty of members had decades-past connections to segregationist organizations. In fact, the CCC attracts such mainstream speakers such as former Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.), Gov. Kirk Fordice (R-MS) and Rep. Bob Barr (R-Ga.), and engages in charitable and cultural events.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Additionally, the SPLC runs tolerance.org, a website that advocates multiculturalism, the homosexual agenda and &amp;quot;social justice&amp;quot;. It is designed with teachers in mind so that these ideas can influence young children in the classroom &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/activities/index.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For instance, teachers can click &amp;quot;classroom activities&amp;quot; then &amp;quot;early grades&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Tolerance Issues: Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual issues:&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;tolerance issues: Gender Issues&amp;quot; and arrive at a pro-alternative family article, among others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tolerance.org/teach/current/event.jsp?cid=305&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. It's magazine is sent to over 400,000 eduators, and over 10,000 schools participate in its programs.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MikeMike</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542457</id>
		<title>Southern Poverty Law Center</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Southern_Poverty_Law_Center&amp;diff=542457"/>
		<updated>2008-10-25T03:06:00Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: testfirst&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;start&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MikeMike</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama&amp;diff=541124</id>
		<title>Talk:Barack Hussein Obama</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Barack_Hussein_Obama&amp;diff=541124"/>
		<updated>2008-10-23T02:58:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: /* Suggesting corrections to 'atom bomb' sentance */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Archives:&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not convenient for learning ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a very interesting high school project. However, I was wondering what measures the authors take to prevent stupidity from creeping into these articles? Let's not even talk about the factual correctness -- I am interested in the ability of this &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; to present cogent paragraphs of  text. Let's look at the first few sentences:&lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;In 2007, Obama was rated the most liberal Senator by the National Journal, who had rated Senator John Kerry the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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The construction of this sentence implies that it is Kerry's rating that provides credence to the National Journal. Is the National Journal a questionable source otherwise? &lt;br /&gt;
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''If elected, Obama would likely become the first Muslim President, and could use the Koran to be sworn into office.''&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;would likely become&amp;quot; -- this phrase looks like something a recent learner of American English might write. Some examples of recent learners are Arab and Mexican immigrants. I do not see any objective explanations of the likelihood or its impact.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;could use the Koran&amp;quot; -- you are implying that he has the option to use the Koran to be sworn in. I don't see how this is interesting information : there are no rules of conduct during the oath. This sentence is as valuable as &amp;quot;could use a caribou head as a tertiary witness of the oath&amp;quot; -- it is not relevant and does not impact any of the other sentences in the article. I would like some detailed explanations as to why the Koran, specifically is undesirable and why it will bring forth a momentous event in American history. &lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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Misplaced metaphor : why is &amp;quot;tripping over his own feet&amp;quot; relevant? The intent of an encyclopedia is to be informative. For a young conservative, the first two paragraphs are highly confusing and hard to read. You have to make this stuff accessible to the kids. Where are the links that specify what &amp;quot;tripping over his own feet&amp;quot; means, and why it is not desirable? An encyclopedia should be complete and sound in its logic and information. Perhaps there should be a link to an article about Tripping.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, when talking about a person, one needs present information in an orderly manner. For example, the Obama article should start with lines about his questionable birth, which according to an editorial in a reputed conservative website, would have not taken occurred since Obama mandates the killing of unborn babies from less than ideal circumstances, like his own. Then, it should proceed with details about his childhood in Islamic countries, and then move on to his current stature and his perception amongst the true American people.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the intent of this website is to inform little children about the true America, then it needs to be complete and comprehensive. The quality of this article will leave kids with more confusion in their minds than they started with. This confusion will lead to a lack in curiosity and will hinder the relevance of  this website. Hence, for the sake of Conservapedia project, please improve the way these paragraphs are written.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Trueism, I think there's some credence to your argument, and the article is due for revision (or at least reorganization). I think a strong and clear organization of the article would lead to greater readability and increase interest. Put up a structure for reorganization and then maybe we can work together on focusing the article into a more cohesive piece and work out some of the grammatical issues. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 17:40, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Citations 7, 8 and 9 in the first bit of text on the Obama article are NOT true sources.  When following down to the footnote, I couldn't get to a site and was exposed, instead, to what appeared to be little more than anecdotal evidence based upon the observation of, I can only assume, the person who wrote this.  Any teacher, lawyer, judge, etc. would throw that out in two seconds for lack of credibility.  An epic failure, indeed, for Conservatives everywhere on the part of whoever wrote that intro.  I have edited it out. [[User:Acwellman|Acwellman]] 17:04, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I reinserted the footnotes as well as the paragraph that you removed relating to them. I think that your intentions were to cite only sources that can be proven to be &amp;quot;factually&amp;quot; true rather than things that can be inferred by the users of this website, and it doesn't always work like that. Citations 7 and 9 are inferences, not facts, but are seen as viable. If you have issue with this, I suggest you take it up with Andy.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I think the issue you have is with the conservative point of view expressed on the page and site. If this is the case, perhaps this isn't the place for you. I'm not trying to be rude or scare you off, but I do want to explain that if you come to &amp;quot;Conservapedia&amp;quot; and don't expect to see something conservative, then you're kidding yourself.--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 17:17, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I don't have a problem with a conservative viewpoint, in fact I welcome it; it's the pushing of the conservative political agenda that doesn't belong in a &amp;quot;Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot;.  But, if CP wants to keep marginalizing itself, I figure that's CP's business.  I'll keep contributing either way.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the subject at hand, the references are inadequate.  An opinion piece and two unsupported statements.  If Obama really said that regarding debates with Hillary, there should be a link or other reference showing it.  As for the Saddleback Forum, surely there's a Youtube video or something.  Why not link to it and let people decide for themselves whether Obama fumbled or not?--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 17:29, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meaning of Hussein ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This has been brought up before, but I just wanted to do some research so we could clear it up:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; 1st point: According to the Oxford Dictionary of First Names, 2nd Edition (published 2006 by the Oxford University Press; authors Patrick Hanks, Kate Hardcastle, and Flavia Hodges; ISBN 0-19-861060-2) Hussein means this:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot; '''Husayn''' ♂ Diminutive of ''hasan'' 'good, beautiful, exquisite.' Al-Husayn (''c''.626-680) was the grandson of the Prophet, whose supporters emerged after his death as the Shiite party.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; Hussein is a variant of Husayn, yet it is unlisted in this dictionary. However, I think that it is apparent that this is simply a modified/altered form of the phonetic equivalent, much like Katherine/Catherine/Kathryn. Hussein/Husayn WAS the grandson of the Prophet, but to say that the name means such is akin to claiming that Mary means &amp;quot;Mother of Jesus.&amp;quot; It may be a colloquial usage or have that connotative meaning, but until there is proof of that, then the entry seems to be incorrect.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; 2nd point: The source currently referenced (http://www.sudairy.com) displays this for the definition of Hussein:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;'''Husain, Husayn, Hussein''' - Beautiful, doer of good deads[sic]; a descendent[sic] of the Prophet&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; which implies that the Oxford source is 1) more accurate as it is verifiable and edited by a trustworthy source and capable speller, and 2) &amp;quot;descendent[sic] of the Prophet&amp;quot; is in reference to the original namesake, though it is not clearly marked. If we are to trust sudairy.com as being completely accurate, however, then anyone named Hayyan, Hannad, or Nizar have the denotative travesty of meaning &amp;quot;Old Arabic Name.&amp;quot; I think the entry should be changed to reflect this. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 16:52, 3 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I listed the incorrect meaning as &amp;quot;descendent[sic] of the Prophet.&amp;quot; This is from the website Suidairy.com, which is not an accurate source of information (my justification is the last paragraph of the first post). The definition I feel is most accurate is the Oxford one, listed above, which lists the definition as &amp;quot;good, beautiful, exquisite.&amp;quot; Al-Husayn (a man, not a name) was the descendant of the prophet. For comparison, anyone named Jesus would not be assumed to be the son of God. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 16:25, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== No longer presumptive ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He's the real-deal nominee at this point. [[User:Athuroglossos|Athuroglossos]] 13:11, 29 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:He's presumptive in the sense that Obama is far too inexperienced to be President. [[User:Redstatepride|Redstatepride]] 18:56, 29 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Education In Jakarta, Indonesia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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All students in Indonesia, regardless of religion get off for Islamic holy days including Nabi Isa which we know as Christmas.  It's disengenuous to make a claim that because he went to a public school and got an Islamic holy day off that there's some nefarious connection.  Muslims that attend Catholic school have to attend Mass whether they like it or not.--[[User:EmpressG1973|EmpressG1973]] 17:01, 28 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the point is that Barack Hussein Obama was observing an islamic holy day when he is claiming to be Christian.  It just does'nt add up to alot of people and should make Christians think twice about him.  --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually it was his '''school''' that was observing the holiday. When a child attends a school, they can't just choose which days they want to take off. Your argument is ridiculous.-- [[User:rkstiner|rkstiner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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How is my point incorrect?  You can nit-pick it all you want but Obama attended a muslim school and observed muslim holidays.  Thats all there is to it.  Take your liberal name-calling elsewhere. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Name calling?....where?[[User:Rkstiner|Rkstiner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:So a Jew who attends a public school in this country doesn't go to school on Christmas, so he is therefore observing a Christian holiday? Making him, I suppose, a Christian? Doesn't make sense. [[User:MichaelR|MichaelR]] 16:08, 3 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You shouldn't have to defend it at all.  Barack Hussein Obama is very likely a muslim there is strong evidence to suggest it.  Since when is being a muslim such a bad thing?  It's not, unless your running for President and try to lie about it. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Patriot, your argument is one of the weakest that I have ever witnessed in my life; it is biased, and it doesn't stick to facts, rather it reflects your own personal views.  You strike me as one of those people who believes that if a lie is told enough it will become true.  If we go by your hypothesis, Rkstiner and others are right: a Jew who doesn't attend school on Christmas is transitively a Christian...Why don't you give Ann Coulter a call?  I'm sure she'd go on a date with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion Explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We don't post a politician's self-serving claptrap.  Obama catered to anti-patriotic donors to win the nomination.  There's no real dispute about that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:53, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Remember, Conservapedia is billed as trustworthy, and children read this website. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 15:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's your point? That children don't need to know he flip flopped on wearing a flag pin? [[User:TJason|TJason]] 15:39, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The point is that children especially should be told the truth. Include the flip-flopping by all means, but also include his explanation for why he did flip-flop. This has more validity then stating &amp;quot;but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;quot; Adequate to whom? By what criteria is the inadequacy judged? If he had explained it by saying &amp;quot;it's none of your business&amp;quot;, or did not offer an explanation, then certainly that would qualify as &amp;quot;without adequate explanation.&amp;quot; Remember: Conservapedia is billed as trustworthy. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 15:56, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I agree that citing his explanation and then explaining why conservatives find it inadequate would be an improvement. I would make said improvement, but I am currently hard &amp;quot;at work&amp;quot;. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 16:09, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't get any of the above.  What does wearing a flag-pin have to do with one's loyalty to his or her country?  The flag-pin evolved as an icon of the Iraq War and a lot of people, Republicans and Dems alike, do not support the war.  I don't wear a flag pin, but that doesn't mean that I don't love my country.  [[User:Acwellman|Acwellman]] 10:59, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Flag-pin evolved after 9/11 as a sign of patriotism. BO's reasons for not wearing and his change of position, plus his other anti-patriotic (see national anthem phot) are relevent.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:37, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Affirmative Action President ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I reverted the removal of &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; for now. Corey, can you explain why this is racist? If affirmative action isn't racist, why is describing someone as an &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; racist? Is your problem with the description that it is racist? Or that it is untrue? I think these are two separate issues. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 10:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This speaks to what I think is an enormous problem with affirmative action (no, I'm not a complete supporter), claiming that a minority only got a job because they are a minority. I think that claiming that Barack Obama's political success comes only from his being black is racist demagoguery, or at least rhetoric designed to incite racial tensions. I have no doubt that there are some people who support Obama only because of the color of his skin, just the same as there are those who oppose him only for the same reason. Also, I will not say that there isn't a desire by many people to see somebody other than white male in the White House. But this is not the ''only'' reason most of Obama's supporters have for supporting him, as the term &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; suggests. He has political experience and he is a deft politician, which figures greatly in a political campaign. I would implore anybody who considers Obama to have no accomplishments to compare his life to that of our sitting president before 2000. Some time in office, a string of business failures, and questionable service in the Texas Air National Guard. Fortunately for G.W. Bush, his father is Bush 41. Bush supporters discuss his successes as his own doing. Claiming that Obama's are not his own because he is black sounds rather racist to me. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 11:16, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::George W. Bush was governor of Texas; some people consider that to be a political accomplishment.  I think you will have to go pretty far back to find a candidate for President whose entire political career was two years as a Senator.  In 1988 Dan Quayle was blasted for his lack of experience for a Vice Presidential candidate, and he had already served many more years in the Congress than Barack Obama has.  Like it or not Obama was fasttracked and bypassed the usual protocols because of the color of his skin.  Whether or not this is appropriate is left to each individual to decide. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 11:32, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::A governorship is certainly a political accomplishment, one which George W. Bush would probably have been unable to attain were it not for his father's name. There is hardly any information on the George W. Bush entry on this site pertaining to his life before his presidency, the details of which would likely lead many people to conclude that were George H.W. Bush not so well-connected his son would not be president. In contrast, the opening paragraph of Obama's entry uses his race to attack him politically. I find this hard to rationalize. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There is not usually an understood litmus test for governor. Some people are longterm politicians, others are not. For instance Arnold held only minor political appointments before he became governor of California. But the Presidency has generally required proving yourself in some capacity. Bush was a well respected governor who received high marks. Carter, Clinton, and Reagan had all been governors. Someone running for President who has not successfully governed a state and has only been in Congress for 2 years is very out of the ordinary. Again, note what Quayle was put through and he was only a Vice Presidential candidate. That being said, I am not necessarily supporting the article in the form it has taken. I have not read it in quite some time, but if it is a leadoff then that would seem to be inappropriate. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:47, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Obama's experience is fair game, and I agree that he has not had as much time in political office as the average candidate. I think that using race as an issue detracts from this fair and logical line of debate. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:53, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think that the term &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; suggests that affirmative action is the '''only''' reason Obama is where he is. I think the term is supposed to denote that his being black is a '''major''' force behind his success. Also, I think the term brings to light that, historically, this is a first. No previous nominee has been the beneficiary of affirmative action in the way Obama has. At any rate, ''I'' won't revert the edit if you remove it again, since you've made your case and I am not willing to fight to keep it in. I suspect others might, though. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 11:37, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Where has he explicitly benefited from affirmative action programs? This is a &amp;quot;heads, I win, tails, you lose&amp;quot; situation. If he doesn't get into Harvard Law or win an election, it's because of lack of merit. If he succeeds, it's because the standards were lowered due to his race. This is an extremely dubious political argument. Attack him on his policies, voting record, character, or fitness to lead: fire as they bear! That's our process, and it's a good process. But these race arguments are petty, desperate, and drag our political discourse down to a despicable level. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I am pretty sure that Harvard Law Review has an affirmative action policy, but I will have to check. Regardless, I think the term also covers &amp;quot;implicit&amp;quot; affirmative action that has benefited Obama (e.g. a white candidate with his experience would not be taken seriously). [[User:TJason|TJason]] 12:10, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;quot;Implicit&amp;quot; affirmative action seems to be in the realm of vagueness and speculation. I refer you to Conservapedia Commandment 1: &amp;quot;Everything you post must be true and verifiable.&amp;quot; [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:25, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Like I said, I'm not really willing to fight over this. We are at least in agreement that this is a distraction from the real issue: his actual positions. I reverted the edit because I thought what was said in the edit comment should have been spelled out in the talk page. It has been. Therefore, if you want to remove the reference again, I won't revert it again.[[User:TJason|TJason]] 12:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I have no intention of perpetuating a pointless revert war, either, and I agree that discussion of the real issues suffer because of such statements. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:32, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Alleged&amp;quot; birth revert ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the National Review doesn't dispute the [http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= authenticity of Obama's birth certificate.] Why is Obama's birth information being censored by this website? [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:30, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There is no censorship here. Removing any mention that there is doubt about the authenticity of his birth certificate is censorship, imho. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 12:34, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However, the way rumor is so prominently injected into the article within the first five words is clear weasel-wording. A separate section regarding the issue would be more appropriate than saying that he was &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; born somewhere, and I wouldn't oppose such a section. Seeing as how you usually hear the word &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; on the news while watching a video of a perp walk, it is unnecessarily loaded language. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:42, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And accusing senior CP members of &amp;quot;weasel-wording&amp;quot; isn't loaded? You should watch your step. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:46, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: We know many [[liberal]]s love [[deceit]], and the birth certificate posted by [[Obama]]'s campaign has obvious defects.  Even its number is blotted out for unexplained reasons.  There are still unanswered questions about his place and date of birth, and what is on his real certificate, which his campaign has not released.  We provide the information about this and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then maybe the thing to do would be to dedicate a separate section to present the issue. It would be much clearer and provide more information than the status quo. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 14:16, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I have reverted another removal of the word &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; since there are still unanswered questions about his birth certificate. Is the consensus that this should be made into a new section? [[User:TJason|TJason]] 17:18, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I would agree with a section. This entire article could do with a better layout and more sectioning. Our John McCain article is better in this regard - perhaps we could use this as a blueprint? [[User:DefenderofTrue|DefenderofTrue]] 17:38, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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(unindent) We seem to be in agreement. I'll make a section tomorrow, under the &amp;quot;Published Criticism&amp;quot; section. I would like to add that I love it when people of different viewpoints can meet in the middle. Good night. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 23:44, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like the changes you have made. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 11:37, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::(edit conflict) Thank you. As discussed, I added a section regarding the birth certificate controversy and removed &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; from the intro paragraph. I tried to make it as evenly written as I could. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 11:40, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, what is up with the &amp;lt;span&amp;gt; tag at the beginning of the article? I don't know what this is used for, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything except make &amp;quot;span&amp;quot; the first word in the article. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 11:44, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::1. You're right- I scanned the diff and thought he removed the Daily Kos ref. 2. I don't know. I never noticed it before. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 11:46, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Berg, Obama’s paternal grandmother has said she was present at his birth in Kenya, after which his mother promptly returned with her baby to the United States. [http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_smears_fact_check/2008/10/20/142379.html] --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:29, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That source doesn't say what you claim it says. The source ''does'' say, however, that &amp;quot;No reporter has been allowed to see the original certificate of live birth or its certificate number, which is blacked out on copies of it on the Obama site.&amp;quot; This is false, and has been false for months: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:43, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay... to start things off I am deathly afraid of this man getting elected and think he would ruin our wonderful nation. I do think that the media is helping him and realize that he is basically &amp;quot;the chosen one.&amp;quot; My conservative principles help me make all of those opinions. Heres the thing. This place exists because someone thought that wikipedia was biased and unfair... but honestly... some of this stuff borders on propaganda! For Pete's sake our job as conservatives is too tell the truth and expose things about him. This page is going too far. I'm embarrassed to know that my fellow conservatives wrote this! This page can still be dedicated to exposing the truth about &amp;quot;the chosen one.&amp;quot; But we'll be SO much more effective if we do it properly and fairly. If you want to contact me its easier to do so at my wikipedia talk page of the same name. Thank you and lets try to do better please. [[User:Saksjn|Saksjn]] 15:32, 21 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: A true conservative would be appalled at Wikipedia and not contribute to their cause-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 20:39, 12 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I copied this from the [[Talk:Main_Page#Obama_Born_In_U.S.A.|Main Page Talk section]] to here because you all might find it of interest. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 11:32, 23 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Look at this photo], is this Barack Obama's birth certificate? [[User:Visitor|Visitor]] 23:44, 22 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's interesting that they finally give the, so-called authentic, birth certificate number in this supposedly unfaked photo. It is '''151 1961 - 010641'''. The reason I bring this up, and I think the REAL reason this was masked, is because numerological analysis shows something very disturbing. If you add up the three sets of digits thus:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;151 + 1961 + 010641 = 12753&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;and then add the individual digits of the result thus:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;1 + 2 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 18&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;the final result, 18, is the product of three sixes (3 x 6 = 18). Three sixes, or [[666]], sort of speaks for itself. I just thought this was interesting. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 11:22, 23 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So am I. I new here and was hoping to find stuff that would challenge my beliefs, so far not much luck. [[User:Visitor|Visitor]] 21:21, 24 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can I quote myself? '''I just thought this was interesting.''' For &amp;quot;seriousness&amp;quot; [[Special:Contributions/AdmiralNelson|I stand by my record]]. Feel free to check it out. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 11:29, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guy filing the lawsuit doesn't dispute the fact that he he was born in Honolulu. He is disputing that Obama is a US citizen after he lived in Indonesia. So why does it say allegedly born still? [[User:Visitor|Visitor]] 19:08, 24 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think he does dispute it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:46, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: ASchlafly is correct - Philip J. Berg is alleging that Barrack Obama forged his birth-certificate because he was not a Natural Born US citizen. [http://obamacrimes.com/ Berg vs Obama] --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 14:50, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't dilute the entry by referring to the silly text messaging stunt in the first paragraph.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:46, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can I put it down in the Presidential Campaign section instead then? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 10:49, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|On June 3rd, Barack Obama had received enough pledged delegates and the endorsement of superdelegates to be called the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party by the Democratic National Committee. The nomination became official when Hillary Clinton conceded on June 7th.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Barack_Obama&amp;amp;diff=506483&amp;amp;oldid=505653 This link] should be commented out until [[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate| this abysmal essay]] is fixed. [[User talk:MargeryCampbell|Marge]] 17:11, 29 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The entire section regarding his comments about Pearl Harbor has got to go. There is no reason to imply that someone leaving an 's' off the word 'bomb' (''bomb'''s''''' did fall on Pearl Harbor, that much is true, right?) means they ignore or disdain American history. I'm guessing the McCain article makes no immediate mention of his confusion over the borders of Iran, or his lack of knowledge about the situation in Iraq, illustrated by the fact that he mixed up the Sunnis and the Shi'ites. Do either of those things make sense? NO! I'm sure John McCain knows what he's talking about, and I'm sure he's not confused about the issues at hand. Obviously, which course of action he chooses to follow is eternally and rightly up for debate, and if we want to highlight that debate about Obama, then that's fine. But it's ridiculous - nay, ridicule-worthy - to say that Obama leaving out an 's' means he thinks Pearl Harbor was nuked. That's so stupid it turns neurons into Pop Rocks. [[User:OtherSide|OtherSide]] 19:51, 31 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, it should stay, the man's an idiot, clearly.   Also - I added the &amp;quot;any educated person would know&amp;quot; bit, which Jareddr just removed.   But I'd point out that many of the younger generation ''don't'' know that it wasn't one bomb.   I've even spoken to young folk who confuse Pearl Harbor with Hiroshima, and think that the nuclear bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbor!   It's remarkable how uneducated some of today's public-school educated youth are.   Also, people from foreign countries may not know the context of Obama's gaffe.  Perhaps that point might be allowed back in - Jareddr, if you want to re-word it yourself maybe?   I think it's kind of important, the stupidity of his point might be missed otherwise.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 14:55, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then state something to the effect of, &amp;quot;In actuality, multiple bombs were dropped on Pearl Harbor during the Japanese mission.&amp;quot;  You didn't say anything about being foreign-educated, only &amp;quot;any educated person...&amp;quot;  If you want to place it in context using my above phrasing, go ahead.  But the entire section has already been set up to switch verbal miscues for &amp;quot;idiocy&amp;quot; so no need to pile on, as they say. &lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, I'l do that then Jareddr, thanks for the suggestion.   As to the McCain entry, I don't think we need to highlight those issues, they're a distraction.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 15:07, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The entry should be removed, since McCain failed to state how many homes he owns is no where to be seen on the McCain article. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 15:43, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Don't be ridiculous, Samuel.  Many everyday Americans have trouble remembering how many homes they own.  Sometimes they own a home, but it's in someone else's name, or it's just a vacation lodge, or it's a few homes on one piece of property.  Ask people on the street how many homes they own, and I guarantee very few will answer! --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:46, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::True, but he spoke about real estate business, and it's undeniably a large factor in the economy, which is a current problem. Compare that to Obama and 60 years ago? Oh Please. Thanks for the sarcasm Jared. :P [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 16:39, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: Obama isn't running to be a history teacher for the country either, though.  One could argue that if you're going to enforce a populist message, and cast yourself as an &amp;quot;everyman&amp;quot; and your opponent as &amp;quot;elite&amp;quot;, you should be able to answer how many homes you have on command.  We're not looking for net value, just a (presumably) single-digit number.  I'm not aware of any &amp;quot;everyman&amp;quot; that forgets that number, but I'm sure some &amp;quot;elite&amp;quot; may forget. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 16:07, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Obama can try that next, Samuel:  &amp;quot;Who cares about what happened at Pearl Harbor?  That was 60 years ago!!!&amp;quot;  Good luck to him and his supporters with that absurd approach.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:12, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::What's more absurd is putting words in my mouth (as well as Obama's, apparently?), as if I were trying to say that I didn't care about Pearl Harbor. I said no such thing. I was comparing something that happened over 60 years ago to present time in relevance to gaffe, nothing more and nothing less, in comparison to Obama's article and McCain's. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 19:29, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: Obama's gaffe was about an essential element of American history that defines our country; McCain's was not.  We do expect presidents to know important aspects of American history.  We really do.  We don't care if they can tell you how wealthy they are, or how many houses they own.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:35, 5 September 2008 (EDT)--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:35, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::And yet McCain's belief in an Iraq/Pakistan border - and his belief that a country named &amp;quot;Czechoslovakia&amp;quot; still exists - shows how out of touch he may be with the issues that matter NOW.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 19:42, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I won't compare the semantics of how you measure the impact and importance of a slip-up, but it ''is'' rather telling that the Obama article prominently features such a slip-up while the McCain article apparently doesn't. This doesn't compute. Both of them have had weird moments (&amp;quot;President Putin of Germany&amp;quot;, anybody?), and in fact, everybody has slip-ups. Bushisms, anybody? So why do we have to pick on Obama's mistakes alone?&lt;br /&gt;
:An encyclopedia needs consistent standards. Entries about similar topics should be comparable. They should be similar in style. They should follow the same intuitive standards.&lt;br /&gt;
:Overall, the McCain article looks like a very good example of how such an entry should look like (kudos to those who made it that way), and the Obama article is a prime example of something that would look great on some obvious right-wing propaganda site, but ''not'' in an encyclopedia. The part before the TOC should be condensed and moved to another part of the article. The intro section (the part before the TOC) is supposed to be an ''intro''. It should briefly sum up who he is and what he does, period. Then come biography sections, then his political stuff, then the Presidential campaign. And THERE you should feature the notable events or slip-ups. I'm most definitely no Obama supporter, but when comparing the McCain and Obama articles, you don't have to do a deep analysis to figure out that this site is way more political activism than encyclopedia, and I think that should change. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 20:22, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember when George H. W. Bush got the date wrong for Pearl Harbor by months?  And he's a WWII veteran!  'Bomb' was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. [[User:CraigC|CraigC]] 21:14, 18 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Citation Needed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a teleprompter and rarely allows tough questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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After one debate against Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tone of the article on Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The whole tone of this article on Barack Obama is appalling. It is poorly written, inaccurate, misleading, insulting and thoroughly vile. I would be ashamed to publish such contemptible stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
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: That's your first -- and only -- contribution here.  Hope you can do better than that!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:17, 7 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's been some time since I last visited. Your article gives me immense pleasure to read. Imagine if Obama were headed for defeat, rather than McCain. Imagine if the Wikipedia article on McCain began,&amp;quot;Of dubious U.S. citizenship, 'John' McCain was allegedly born in Panama. It is not impossible and cannot be totally ruled out that the &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; refers to a propensity to patronize prostitutes, which are plentiful in that country.&amp;quot; Would you not show the article to your colleagues in great delight? We on the left salute you. You are almost as effective in our behalf as a fundraiser. ;-) [[User:Archer070]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I see someone is watching the Obama talk page like a hawk. I stand by my previous remarks and hope to be adding many more in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Good for you.  And my hope is that you'll have better contributions to this site than what you've done so far.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:25, 7 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I have to say that to a foreigner, this article reads like one-sided drivel. Some of it is so blatantly ridiculous that it gives a negative impression of the people writing it, not Obama. Surely you should be attacking him over his policies rather than a non-existent issue over where he was born or some completely pathetic nonsense about him taking holidays at the same time as other kids in his school. (Amazing but true: Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish and Buddhist children in Britain take holidays at Christmas and Easter; they don't volunteer for extra classes on those days.) This article reads as though you've given up all hope of defeating him on political grounds and are just falling back on rather silly personal remarks. Surely you can do better than that! (Kindly read that as constructive criticism.) [[User:Googly|Googly]] 19:45, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am a Canadian Conservative. I was surprised to see that McCain, Palin and Biden all have their official photographs on their pages, but Barack Obama has a press photo that portrays him in a negative light. Surely we can do better than that? Does this not just reinforce the feeling among undecided Americans and the rest of the world that the right has a major grudge against Obama? Perhaps because he is an African-American, etc? I am not attributing a reason why this site chose an unflattering photo of the only non-white candidate among the Big 4 in this election. It is just how it seems to an outsider. Come on, guys, he will most likely be the President in 2 weeks, let's not make that a little more likely. In case you missed it, these things just do two things:&lt;br /&gt;
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== I'm noticing a very disturbing pattern... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, so notice that Lodovico makes an edit, and adds sufficient reasoning for his edit in the apt column. Notice then that Andrew changes it, and doesn't even look to the talk page to provide ANY reasoning.&lt;br /&gt;
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# (cur) (last) 14:19, 6 September 2008 Chippeterson (Talk | contribs) (58,052 bytes) (I don't like Obama anymore then ayone else on Conservapedia, but come on. The two pictures should be reversed) (undo)&lt;br /&gt;
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Here again we have a very reasonable edit, that it reverted without adequate explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
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# (cur) (last) 14:35, 25 August 2008 Impm (Talk | contribs) (57,106 bytes) (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html He was born in Hawaii unequivocally.) (undo)&lt;br /&gt;
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http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Barack_Obama#Citation_Needed &amp;lt;--- Here is another example; everyone is discussing the pertinent issue, including Andrew, but then drops out of the picture and: (cur) (last)  10:09, 27 August 2008 Aschlafly (Talk | contribs) (57,862 bytes) (restored material deleted by liberal censorship) (undo) &lt;br /&gt;
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I'm just wondering, but why is it we have to discuss changes we want to make whenever an edit conflict arises, but Andrew doesn't? This makes it essentially impossible to edit any article that Andrew has become party to because you can never know which of your edits will be acceptable or not. &lt;br /&gt;
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Am I alone in seeing this? Do I see a ghost ruffling the leafs or is it simply just the wind?[[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 19:51, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've noticed it too, but I didn't think asking him about it would change anything. Especially on the &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; thing. --[[User:Ampersand|Ampersand]] 23:15, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This is inane. It's been more at least a day now and we haven't even gotten a one sentence response yet; just more reverted edits without adequate explanation. [[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 18:28, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Welcome to conservapedia. Often if you attempt to question the work of ASchlafly, he will simply ignore you. --[[User:AndrasK|AndrasK]] 18:33, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jirby, be concise in your comments.  This site isn't a liberal blog where people talk, talk, talk without saying anything.  Reversions do not have a place for summarizing the reason in the wiki software.  Also, people who only criticize conservatives without criticizing the liberal vandals lack credibility.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:43, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So the best you can do... is complain that my words are too big and my sentences are too long? And here I was trying my best not to mischaracterize you. Shame on me! It is also clearly evident that revisions do not have a comment box, but how does that keep you from posting your reasons for consistently reverting factual edits here? It doesn't. My concern also isn't with liberal/conservative/anarchist vandals because they're freaking obvious and will be dealt with without my input (unless in the case of the uppity negro comment from before) they have fallen under the radar of authority and it behooves me to say something. Now stop trying to shift this in a way as if it is MY fault for trying to make you accountable as per your own rules. [[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 18:49, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Jirby, your above rant illustrates my point.  I'm moving on and request that you be substantive and concise in the future.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:53, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Published Criticism&amp;quot; section repeats, aside from a couple of sentances, almost word for word the introduction. This needs changing as it looks silly to have repetitions so I am going to leave this comment to see if there is any response and wait 48 hours and then go to work on fixing it. [[User:ClarkeD|ClarkeD]] 21:17, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Fine, but don't remove information from the introduction.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:18, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'll only remove the double-ups from the lower section. Thanks for the quick response! [[User:ClarkeD|ClarkeD]] 21:20, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Was just trying to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Barack_Obama&amp;amp;diff=512956&amp;amp;oldid=512942 fix my spelling error], not trying to revert Andy. --[[User:GunsandaBible|GunsandaBible]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;My Muslim Faith&amp;quot; quote==&lt;br /&gt;
I've seen the video of this quote and it is taken totally out of context. What Obama is saying is that JOhn McCain has not accused him of being a secret muslim. Does anyone really believe that this is Obama mistakenly revealing that he is a muslim? Anyone who has seen the video can't seriously believe that this is the case. This quote should be removed before people start taking it seriously. [[User:Billgates3|Billgates3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can someone explain why you think it would be such a big deal if Barack Obama were actually Muslim? (Leaving aside for the moment the lack of any evidence that he ever has been a Muslim.) I thought you guys in the USA believed in separation of religion and the state, so why does it matter what religion, if any, the President happens to follow? [[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 20:13, 13 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: As a Democrat who will be voting for Obama, I think (and I really hope that this is the general consensus) that the main issue would be that he's lied.  I'd like to think that somebody saying up front that they were a Muslim wouldn't be a reason to vote against them if they're wholly qualified otherwise, but IF it turns out that somebody can prove that he really is a Muslim (I highly doubt anything like that can turn up, since everything out there now is just gossip), then he'll be caught in a BIG lie that would kill his credibility with everything. [[User:Mk|Mk]] 15:12, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why on earth are CP people bothered about the fact that Obama had holidays for Muslim festivals when he went to school in a Muslim country? Muslim (and Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish and Zoroastrian) children take days off school for Christian holidays in the UK without society collapsing. Honestly, some of the stuff on this page is just weird. Why on earth don't you guys concentrate on his policies (or lack of any) instead of getting so worked up about personal matters which are complete non-issues? [[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 19:27, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is a matter of honesty which Obama will not address. America has never elected somebody with such a secret history as Barack hides from. Criticize CP all you want, I don't expect you to last here that long.  -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 21:12, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Err... why not, exactly? What's the problem with suggesting that politically-active people in the USA should concentrate on politics, not on minor details (or utterly trivial ones, in this case) of a candidate's personal life? [[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 12:54, 15 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The section on Obama's &amp;quot;secrecy&amp;quot; cites only a blog which gives no sources. Unless there are complaints or offers to better source it, I will remove this section or shorten it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The section on Obama's middle name is also poorly sourced. It is claimed that &amp;quot;most&amp;quot; people change their names when they undergo a religious conversion. The cite refers to two people who converted to Christianity and then changed their names. &amp;quot;For example&amp;quot; can never be used to prove &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;. Unless someone offers a statistic backing up the &amp;quot;most&amp;quot; claim, I will change it to &amp;quot;some&amp;quot;. Additionally, the citation given for the meaning of &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; is to a names list on about.com. There is no way this can be considered authoritative, and in any case the alternate meaning (&amp;quot;handsome&amp;quot;) should also be reported lest we be accused of fearmongering.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, I fail to see how &amp;quot;there are few atheists in Kenya&amp;quot; could possibly be seen as an argument against Obama's father being nonreligious. There are also few admirals in the US; does this mean McCain's father wasn't an admiral?  [[User:Egen|Egen]] 15:22, 19 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seeing no objection on the talk page or attempts to correct the faulty information during the last 24 hours or so, I've gone ahead and made the edits. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 15:39, 20 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sorry, wholesale deletion of content, some which has been discussed on the talk page, is inappropriate at your rank of contributions.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:48, 20 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Surprise, surprise.  Everything Egen deleted was either unsourced or irrelevant.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:29, 20 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This &amp;quot;content&amp;quot; is worthless and factually inaccurate in a way that's absolutely obvious to anyone reading it. The page is already too long and having such nonsense on the page is a severe detriment to our credibility. No one even attempted to respond to my reasoning and I gave ample time to allow disagreements. If ANYONE can provide reliable evidence that &amp;quot;most&amp;quot; people change their name when they convert, that Obama's father was not an atheist, and that Hussein means &amp;quot;descendent of the prophet Muhammad&amp;quot; (a baby names site is not reliable evidence) then please do so. (The last statement is, in fact, false. In Arabic, you would never simply refer to any descendant of Muhammad as &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; does not mean &amp;quot;descendant of Muhammad&amp;quot; any more than James means &amp;quot;brother of Jesus.&amp;quot;) [[User:Egen|Egen]] 19:26, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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HelpJazz, the stat is no good. It is an attempt at obfusication, it's  not 1 billion, it is only 18%, gee. -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:54, 21 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Uh, it say right in the article &amp;quot;$936 million&amp;quot;. The 18% figure only adds to the figure, it takes away nothing. Obama has a lifetime score of 18%, which is far below failing and far below the Republican average. Plus, if you really thought that the 18% figure was obsfucation (which, I'll reiterate, doesn't make any sense) then why did you take away the scale, which gives meaning to the number? If I said that Barack Obama scored a 397 on a liberalness test, you would want to know what that score means, no? And you would want to know how he compares to other liberals, right? You wouldn't say &amp;quot;he scored 397 on a liberalness test -- that's just under 400!&amp;quot; because that doesn't add anything to the article. Your &amp;quot;500k/day&amp;quot; stat ''does'' add to the article. Even though there's nothing to compare it to, it's still a nice number that hits home how big almost a billion is. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 17:44, 22 September 2008 (EDT) PS: Sorry to keep you waiting, editing cut off early last night, and wasn't on this morning before I went to work.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this has been talked about a lot here, but i would like for someone to prove to me byond a reasonable doubt that Obama is a muslim. Otherwise, i don't think we should have him in the 'muslims' category. so, can someone provide irrefutable proof that Barack Obama is a practicing muslim?&lt;br /&gt;
:Reasonable doubt is enough, or no article would have categories. [[User:Devout|Devout]] 15:16, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::based on that logic i could say McCain is ineligible to be US President due to his birth in the Panama Canal Zone due to the US returning it. [[User:Xapdal5|Xapdal5]] 23:08, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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My parents and pastor always taught me not to lie, so when I heard there was a website that dealt more fairly with intelligent design and creationism than most, I wanted to check it out. I was quite upset to find a site filled with such dishonesty, double-standards, and vitriol. I don't recall that part of my bible that says 'don't lie unless it's about someone of the rival political party.' [[User:Booster|Booster]] 17:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Booster, you are not looking at this issue properly. It is not a matter of party.  Obama is a Muslim. The United States is, by tradition, a Christin nation. As Devout notes, there is enough reasonable doubt that no true Christian can vote for him.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 17:56, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But he's NOT a Muslim. Misspeaking once or twice doesn't make you a Muslim. Not wearing a flag-pin doesn't make you a Muslim. A funny name doesn't make you a Muslim. My middle name is Caesar and I don't worship Zeus. If the man was a Muslim, there would be real evidence, unless we contend that he hides under the blanket at night and reads the Koran by flashlight. I'm not going to vote for the man because I fundamentally disagree with many of his policies, not because of untruths posted about his religion. [[User:Booster|Booster]] 22:29, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::You say he's a Muslim?  Heck, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that's all the proof I need!--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am proud muslim but not from united states. Obama is very good but not muslim. That is ok. Also, I read article and it say that Obama not change his name. Around me, muslims convert to jesus but do not change their names. I will change article if that is ok. [[User:SyedO|SyedO]] 18:06, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The issue is that the United States is a Christian Nation.  We are one nation under God, not mohammad or allah.  That probably offends liberals, but it's the truth. [[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not that it matters, because Obama is not a Muslim unless anyone can provide any actual evidence to suggest that he is. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 16:32, 25 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The US is not a Christian nation. It clearly states in the constitution that church and state are separate. while there might be christian influences it does not mean we are a christian nation. [[User:Xapdal5|Xapdal5]] 23:14, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have yet to see conclusive evidense that he is a muslim. i am removing him from that category.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Perhaps we should have a category called &amp;quot;Suspected Muslims&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Crypto-Muslims&amp;quot;? --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:25, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Does it mean he may have been born somewhere else,&amp;quot; or that &amp;quot;his live birth is contested?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Is it supposed to mean he may have been hatched?&amp;quot; Then he'd be evolved, right libs? Some people on here are so dumb it frightening. [[User:LarryHapp|LarryHapp]] 15:42, 25 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised that this article did not mention the compelling allegations of homosexuality and drug-abuse. One witness (a former homosexual called Larry Sinclair) confessed in great detail an event in which he consumed cocaine and performed oral-sex on Obama (this was a few years before he became a senator). &lt;br /&gt;
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This issue has been the subject of at least two court-cases - both were dismissed on technicalities, conveniently allowing Mr. Obama to avoid tackling the substantive issue. &lt;br /&gt;
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Despite being repeatedly asked to deny or even comment about these allegations Team-Obama has remained utterly silent. Surely (as Mr. Sinclair stated) - if somebody made an allegation which was incorrect you'd deny it or at least tell your side of the story. Obama's silence on this issue (as so many others) is worthy of suspicion. With the permission of my fellow Conservapedia users I'd like to add a summaary of these alegations to the article. --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:12, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He's already admitted to cocaine use in one of his books (''Dreams from my Father'', I think.)--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 22:15, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Any nutball can allege anything.  Some things are below notice. [[User:CraigC|CraigC]] 08:34, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That is true, however Larry Sinclair has been vetted by a great many conservative journalists. His story has yet to be disproven, and furthermore he has come under a great deal of attack by Joe Biden's people. Given that Sinclair's story is merely corroborating something that Obama has already admitted, why exclude it from what ought to be an authoritative article? Obama supporters have called Sinclar a nut (and much worse), but none of them have disproven his allegations? Ask yourself - why is it that Obama has not attempted to disprove that he had a homosexual liason and took crack-cocaine with Mr. Sinclair that night? His silence on the topic does not make any sense. --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 08:40, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I agree, not everybody bothers to deny everything, for example if I accused you of being an &amp;quot;alien from outer-space&amp;quot; or something entirely preposterous then you might be right to disregard my comments. On the other hand Sinclair has only accused Obama of things which he has partly confessed to. Regarding drug-taking, Obama confessed that he had tried drugs as a young man but had given up. Sinclair contends that he witnessed Obama using drugs relatively recently. &lt;br /&gt;
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:: Your point would be entirely relevant to this case if the Obama people were simply ignoring Sinclair, however as anybody who has watched this story unfold can see Obama's people have done anything but ignore Sinclair. In fact, he was the victim of a very organized campaign to discredit him. Biden's people arranged for him to be arrested during one of his press conferences (you can see it on Youtube if you do not believe me). &lt;br /&gt;
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:: This article has presented a great deal of evidence that Mr. Obama can be sneaky and deceptive. We know that America harbors a great deal of drug-users and homosexuals. Why do you believe that somebody who faked a legal document (like a Birth Certificate) might be incapable of other acts of immorality? --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:21, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather than simply state that he was allegedly born in a state of the USA, how about we outline the various conflicting theories regarding his place of birth, the primary evidence of each of those theories and the principle backers of each of those theories. That way we can be fair and balanced with regards to this issue? --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:30, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What's this nonsense on the News section of the Main Page about a '''Muslim''' pronounciation of Pakistan as 'Pokiston'? For one thing, there's no such thing as a Muslim pronounciation of anything - a Muslim from Glasgow sounds Scottish, a Muslim from Madras sounds South Indian. For another, the Pakistani pronounciation of Pakistan is 'Paakistaan' - long aa's (aaah). Please delete this item from the News - it just makes CP look silly. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 20:51, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't think what you said is true.  Arabic is the language of the Koran, having a Muslim pronunciations, and &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; is a word created by Muslims, having a Muslim pronunciation.  There is Muslim pronunciation used by Obama and a very different English pronunciation used by most Americans.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:57, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: The pronounciation of the word as used in India and Pakistan - by Hindus, Muslims, Christians and everyone else - is Paakistaan. That would also be an transliteration of the word into English. It's now also much the most common pronounciation in the UK; before about 1970 in the UK, both &amp;quot;a&amp;quot;s were pronounced as the short, semi-closed &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; as in cat, hat, fat, etc, but it's changed to become closer to the Indian/Pakistani pronounciation. I daresay the &amp;quot;cat/hat/fat&amp;quot; vowel sound might still be used &amp;quot;by most Americans&amp;quot; (to quote you) but that isn't the usage in India, Pakistan or the UK. I have no idea how Obama says Pakistan but there's no more a Muslim pronounciation of the word than there is a Hindu or Christian one. In any case, Pakistan is an Urdu word, not an Arabic one. It makes no more sense to say that 'Pakistan' is an Arabic word than to say that 'automobile' is a Greek word. And finally, why does this matter to you? [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 20:32, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Andy- just because Arabic is the language of the Koran, that doesn't mean that there is such a thing as &amp;quot;Muslim pronounciations.&amp;quot; In this last statement, you've conflated religion (&amp;quot;Muslim pronounciation&amp;quot;), linguistic groups (&amp;quot;Arabic&amp;quot;) and nationalities (&amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;English pronounciation used by most Americans.&amp;quot;) They are all different, and all complex. A French-speaking Algerian isn't going to pronounce &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; the same way as an Arabic-speaking Sudanese or an Indonesian. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:03, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, right, an American doesn't pronounce Pakistan the way that Muslims educated in Indonesia do, which underscores the point.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:14, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: But isn't Obama an American? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 16:15, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::He ''claims'' to be. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:20, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I know LOTS of Americans who use the pronounciation in question. And Brits, too. Look at it this way: if the link between the language of the Koran and the billion or so Muslims scattered across the globe means that there is such a thing as &amp;quot;Muslim pronounciation,&amp;quot; does that mean that the world's Christians--Swedes, Phillipinos, Americans, Candians, Irish, Brazilians, French, Germans, all share &amp;quot;Christian pronounciations&amp;quot; that can be traced back to Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:18, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Quite correct, AliceBG. A Christian from South India doesn't sounds like a Christian from Scotland and a Muslim from Scotland doesn't sound like a Muslim from South India. Putting stuff like this &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; issue on CP's front page gives the impression that Aschafly and his colleagues have no serious issues with which to attack Obama and are forced to resort to personal trivia of the silliest kind. I really don't understand why Aschafly &amp;amp; friends don't focus on the politics. This is very peculiar to people outside the USA. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 14:34, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberals protest here too much to the observation that Obama uses the Muslim pronunciation of Pakistan rather than the virtually universal American pronunciation.  But nothing in the liberal protests explains the clear difference in a satisfactory manner.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:40, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, many of the protests have pointed out clearly that your assertion is based on a mistaken conflation between religion and linguistic groups, have pointed to the fact that Muslims from different language groups pronounce words differently, and have pointed out that the notion of &amp;quot;Christian pronounciation&amp;quot; would obviously be an impossible phenomenon to talk about. i'd repeat myself, but I'd rather go back to improving your encyclopedia for you. Asalaam Aleikum.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 20:47, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aschafly, why is pointing out an instance where CP is talking nonsense 'liberal'? [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 16:14, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just ridiculous. What is a &amp;quot;Muslim pronunciation?&amp;quot; Muslims everywhere pronounce words and names differently. If anything, an &amp;quot;Arabic pronunciation&amp;quot; might exist, but that is debatable. And don't give me the crap about that because Arabic is the language of the Koran, everyone who uses an Arabic pronunciation is Muslim. Arab Christians around the world speak Arabic. Plus, Arabic was being spoken way before Islam cam around. The name of the country should be pronounced the way it actually sounds, as dictated by the natives. Iraq is not &amp;quot;eye-rack,&amp;quot; it is pronounced Irok. The fact that Obama pronounces Pakistan properly just shows that he is attentive to the culture and language of the country, (a key ally that we are in danger of losing, by the way), not that he is a Muslim. Even if there were some kind of valid point in the &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; argument, which there is most definitely not, it would be minuscule considering the broader scale of things. This whole section has just got to go.&lt;br /&gt;
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: You protest too much.  There is a common American pronunciation of &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot;, but Obama uses the different pronunciation he either learned while attending a Muslim grade school, or heard from his closest advisers over the past 20 years.  It's informative to point that out, whether you think he's &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; or not.  Pronunciations can be illustrative of one's culture and beliefs.  It suggests the pronunciation used by one's teachers and advisers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:37, 3 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Notice that you didn't address any of the actual points I made. I say &amp;quot;Pokistan.&amp;quot; I avoid saying &amp;quot;eye-rack.&amp;quot; Am I a Muslim? And what is an &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; pronunciation? As far as I know, there is no &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; way of saying anything. Do you mean an English pronunciation? I am simply baffled by some of the things people say on this site.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree with what's been said above : &amp;quot;Pokistan&amp;quot; is not an exclusively &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; pronunciation (if there's such a thing...). The article would be much stronger without this unnecessary point : don't we have enough evidence of Obama's faith?&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a long article with a large variety of sub-topics. I've inserted a half-dozen section headings that improve readability and organization. While it might be a good idea to think about re-organizing the sections and moving particular facts into different sections, I really think the piece needs to be broken up like this--plus it makes it more effective, acting as a catalogue of important questions and criticisms.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 22:51, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The greatest insights are going on the first screen page, period.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:58, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fine--why undo the section headings, then? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 22:59, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think I see the problem - when a section heading is inserted higher up, the contents block, which is rather large, takes up most of the first screen.  However, if you hit the &amp;quot;hide&amp;quot; button on the contents block, it takes up very little space and the insights are on the first screen page.  It seems to be a &amp;quot;sticky&amp;quot; hide also, as it continues to be hidden when I re-load the page.  I hope this helps.  Like [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]], I'm just attempting to improve readability by inserting section headings.  I do not want to remove any insights, or hide any.  I believe section headings actually make it easier for the reader to glance over the many areas of concern (in the contents block), and go quickly to their area of interest, whilst still remaining aware of the other topics presented. They will also help editors to put their information in the correct section, thus minimizing problems with redundant information and making the whole article easier to read. (Right now, some of it kind of jumps around.)  I am also open to other solutions to the problems that a long article presents. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 23:14, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, i see the problem too. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:15, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A lot of the stuff under the &amp;quot;Islam&amp;quot; section heading has nothing to do with Islam, but Schlafly won't let anyone put it in a reasonable order. Good luck with that. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:07, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Told you. He won't listen.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:09, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There should be a way to solve this. You can force the TOC to not show up and then manually add it some where else. I can't remember how to do it off the top of my head, but I'll see if I can poke around and remember how. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:43, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, as dirty as I feel for putting &amp;quot;his muslim faith&amp;quot; higher up than his birth, hopefully this should solve the problem. Now the Muslim insights are on the first page, and they are sectioned off for better flow. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:54, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how Obama's pronunciation of &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; has anything to do with his religion. And I don't care that he didn't change his middle name. Maybe he does have muslim beliefs, but these things would have nothing to do with it. There has to be fewer illogical statements here to be respectable; I thought the point of this page was to get away from the bias of wikipedia. Don't make conservatives look bad. Logic, facts, and history are on the conservative's side - use them.&lt;br /&gt;
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In attempting to organize the article yesterday, I came across two different sections on Obama's job at the University of Chicago.  They seem to contradict each other.  Here they are:&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He was &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer in the Law&amp;quot;, which is not a professor-level position, at the [[University of Chicago]] Law School as of 2004&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/04/041103.obama.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and is no longer active at the school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''&amp;quot;I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,&amp;quot; Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser. ... Responding to Obama's comments, Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said, &amp;quot;Senator Obama needs to understand that at this level words matter and he will be scrutinized.&amp;quot;  Ronayne pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. The University of Chicago lists him as a senior lecturer on leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  So in this reference, an AP story in the San Francisco Chronicle, we have evidence that Obama has indeed called himself a law professor, and a quote from an RNC spokesman saying he was not.&lt;br /&gt;
* This reference &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is to a chat board.  It mostly lists several references, including the article above and the University of Chicago's ''Statement Regarding Barack Obama''.&lt;br /&gt;
* The next two references are repeats of the first two.&lt;br /&gt;
* The next is the University of Chicago's ''Statement Regarding Barack Obama''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It states:  ''The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;  From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.''  It seems that he was an adjunct from '92 to '96, but after that, as a Senior Lecturer, he was considered a professor.&lt;br /&gt;
* The next reference is a news article on UChicago's site from '04.  It uses the title of Senior Lecturer to describe Obama, which confirms that he was indeed at that time a Senior Lecturer.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/04/041103.obama.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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All of the references seem to agree that Obama was a Senior Lecturer, and that he was not full-time.  The RNC spokesman said that Obama was &amp;quot;only a Senior Lecturer and not a full professor&amp;quot;.  UofC said &amp;quot;Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track&amp;quot;.  I think we should sum all this up by including something along the lines of the following:&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Great-uncle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please could someone explain why it matters that Obama's great-uncle liberated Buchenwald rather than Auschwitz? [Stuff not about B.O. deleted] Really, fellow CP people, sometimes you have to stop nit-picking and get a life. Surely there are political issues you can attack the man on? Why are you fussing about precisely which Nazi concentration camp his great-uncle helped to liberate. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 18:25, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It not that he was wrong about his uncle, its that he used it as a politics tool.  Like how he says about 57 states.  He doesnt think or research about what he says.  Do we want a president that makes that many slips?  [[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]  &lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, I'd say he isn't the first American politician (or British one, come to that) not to be 100% careful about what he says on every single occasion. How about your ''current'' President?! [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 18:33, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: The problem is one of honesty, not harmless slips.  The gaffes reveal a real Obama that is being denied by himself and his supporters.  Obama's gaffes are analogous to a racist gaffe, which of course no liberal would ignore if uttered by an opponent.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:36, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: My head is spinning... Thanks, anyway, for not putting that particularly unpleasant slur back on your page about B.O. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 16:17, 1 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ironic that a Republican would talk about Presidents and candidates making slips: THEY'RE HUMAN BEINGS...AND HUMANS ARE FALLIBLE.  This is a Christian Conservative website, right?  It would seem that exposing one's fallibilities and imperfections is tantamount to honoring God; the only being that can be perfect.  At any rate, we all derive our understanding of how people and politicians should be in public from TV and various other forms of media...that is the root of our problem.  If you've ever seen the show Boston Legal, you know exactly what I'm talking about.  James Spader delivers perfect, articulate closings that highlight his opponent's downfalls whilst bolstering his own correctness.  I bet even Andy Schlafly, with all due respect, stuttered over a closing here and there just the same as Barack Obama says 58 when he meant the 48 contiguous states.  I seem to recall we got more gaffes than we could handle over the course of the last eight years due to the inarticulate nature of one &amp;quot;W&amp;quot;.  Of course, various CP administrators will sweep it under the rug and say these gaffes were taken out of context by the evil liberals who hate God and report to Lord Zargax on Planet Fallujah 9 without even considering the possibility that perhaps they take things out of context, as well.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Andy, I must contest your notion that all Bush &amp;quot;gaffes&amp;quot; were harmless slips.  While said statement accomplishes what you're going for--a good/harmless versus evil/harmful dichotomy set up between Bush and Obama--it is anachronistic.  As governor of Texas, Bush clearly stated that he was against imposing America's ideologies and political structure upon other countries, yet as a President, he incited a war that was defined in the most grey manner possible (War on Terror) in which we sought an enemy that existed in a place nobody could prove he was hiding out.  Once that didn't pan out and the Bush administration realized their gaffe, the very same war underwent a little cosmetic surgery in the form of name change and became &amp;quot;Operation: Iraqi Freedom&amp;quot; or some such drivel.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This brings me to how this website stands on the premise of truth.  The problem with truth is that it is not a collective entity--the truth means many things for different people.  Abortion is viewed as wrong by some and right by others just the same as a 70 degree day is considered hot by a Vermonter and cold by a Floridian.  You can't impose the same truth on everybody because one man's truth is another man's lie. [[User:Acwellman|Acwellman]] 12:21, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birth certificate edit==&lt;br /&gt;
The word &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; will stay for now, and here's why: the reference used for the certificate links to a pic of what is claimed to be Obama's, which is not the original.  What is there is what could be called a &amp;quot;certified official copy&amp;quot; from the Department of Vital Statistics in Hawaii, which means that someone went to the filed originals and started typing on the copy sheet what he/she saw.  Since there is a little war brewing over whether or not Obama was actualy born there, I think it's reasonable to ask for A) a copy of what a Hawaiian birth certificate looked like in 1960; and B) a Xerox copy of Obama's birth certificate as it appears in the files, and NOT as the certified copy that we are seeing now.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 23:04, 1 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm going to revert my stance on it.  Certain federal laws state that if a person is born to an American citizen in another country, that baby is an American citizen as well (there is such a document as a State Department birth certificate).  Unless it is proven that the Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake, I think this website should just say that he was born there and leave it at that.  It's just not much of an issue when there are more serious ones to concentrate on (Bill Ayers, ACORN, his Marxism, etc).  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:11, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== sex ed for kindergartners? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do I keep hearing about Obama wanting sex ed for kindergartners? It is appalling to think that the next president of the united states might actually teach sex education to 5 year old's.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disgusted Conservative ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've voted Republican in every election since 1960, but I'm absolutely disgusted by this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to the dignity of our party under Goldwater and Reagan? This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; page is just one long rant. &lt;br /&gt;
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Are there any real conservatives out there willing to present objective, factual criticism of Obama? God knows there are enough valid arguments to make. Why are we channeling Michael Savage rather than William Buckley? Currently this page makes me cry for my party.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like disgusted conservative is voting for BO. I happen to think it is an accurate account of a man that is dishonest. Where will you get the real picture about about if not here? Are you disgusted by Wikipedias article? How about the coverage on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, LATimes, WaPo, NYT, Google, The Guardian. Why not be mad and except that the majority of America is being fooled? Why not be mad at someone as disgusting as BO, actually has a real chance to take the Presidency and doesn't deserve it IN THE LEAST? Reagan is rolling over in his grave and so all the Founders.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Voting Republican again this year. I know you're mad about what's going on, but it shows throughout the page. An encyclopedia can't be written from an angry point of view. Let me be specific:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot; plus &amp;quot;Obama and Islam&amp;quot; are not valid main introductory sections. Start with his early life.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) His birth certificate gets its own section but his healthcare and tax plans don't? Focus on what's really important.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section is just a list of criticisms and belongs under a &amp;quot;Criticism&amp;quot; section. Categorize corectly.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Off-topic side-swipes: &amp;quot;He became a member of the Harvard Law Review, which uses racial quotas, in 1989&amp;quot;. Why is &amp;quot;which uses racial quotas&amp;quot; in there? If it was a reason that he was chosen, say that. If it wasn't leave it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Unsubstantiated claims: &amp;quot;Obama's campaign has been financed largely by leftist donors opposed to the war and to the American military in general.&amp;quot; Citation definitely needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have several good sections in here: &amp;quot;Senate career&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Foreign policy experience&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Published criticism&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Religious affiliations&amp;quot;. These are high-quality and reflect well on Conservapedia. The others do not.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the reply from hsmom below as the kind of constructive, factual accuracy this page needs.&lt;br /&gt;
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::This sounds like you're standard liberal bellyaching.  The fact is that no real conservative Christian can vote for this man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::??!?! Trying to hold this article to some kind of standard is bellyaching? Would you like to address any of my points?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Your points is liberal talking points.  The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama wants to talk with Iran without predeterminations, flip flops, and is close friends to an unrepentive TERRORIST.  What more can you know?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Trying to shift the focus on an ''encyclopedia page'' about a presidential candidate from hypothetical statements (his possible Islamic faith) and trivial matters (his birth certificate), to his actual stance on the issues is liberal bellyaching? If anything, we should be casting aside these trivial circumstances as beneath us and take the time to dissect each of his stances on the actual issues. That's what a real, dignified Conservative would do. Relying on ridiculous tactics such as these is asinine and cowardly. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 16:21, 9 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Disgusted Conservative, sadly you are only wasting your time.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama's pastor of twenty-years, Rev. Wright, was originally a member with the Nation of Islam (likely always has been, see [[taqiyya]])''  Let's be careful not to confuse the Nation of Islam with the traditional Muslim faith - they are two quite different things. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:10, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: What differences do you find so compelling?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:15, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't know that I'd use the word &amp;quot;compelling&amp;quot;; I don't know a whole lot about either faith.  I do know that they're quite different.  The Nation of Islam was started in Detroit in the 1930's as something of a black empowerment/separatist movement - it's a very race-based group, from what I understand, and (in what I would consider a cult-like way) based largely on the teachings of two or three men, who are considered more-or-less prophets.  It's been portrayed in the media as very racist and anti-Semitic, though I don't know enough about it to know how accurate that is.  It's a uniquely American faith.  Traditional Islam is quite a different thing - it's been around for thousands of years.  Malcolm X, for example, became a member of NOI in prison, then, due to disillusionment brought on by NOI leader/prophet Elijah Mohamed's adultery, converted to traditional Islam.  I have assumed that when you say that you believe that Barak Obama is a Muslim, you are referring to traditional Islam, right? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:37, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.  Are you saying that NOI adherents do not pray and submit to Allah?  I'm sure they do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:52, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::''Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.''  No, I wouldn't put it that way.  I wouldn't consider NOI to be Islam.  As I understand it, I think they are two fundamentally different faiths, though NOI has some trappings borrowed from traditional Islam, as well as some borrowed from Christianity.  NOI believes, among other things, &amp;quot;that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited &amp;quot;Messiah&amp;quot; of the Christians and the &amp;quot;Mahdi&amp;quot; of the Muslims.&amp;quot;[http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm]  As I understand it, when NOI members pray to Allah, they mean (at least in part) W. Fard Muhammad (the founder of NOI).  Wheras of course traditional Muslims don't include anything about W. Fard Muhammad in their beliefs, nor do they recognize NOI as a Muslim denomination.  (Christians don't believe W. Fard Muhammad is the Messiah either, obviously.)  NOI is a uniquely American black separatist movement.  I believe it's quite a different faith from traditional Islam.  Maybe I was wrong about assuming you think Barak Obama is a traditional Muslim?  Do you think Barak Obama is a member of the NOI?  That would lead to quite different concerns; as I understand it, the NOI wants, among other things, quite substantial reparations for slavery. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The Nation of Islam's relationship to Christianity is similar to the relationship of Christianity to Judaism.  They use the same texts (to some extent), and have practices that are shared with and developed out of the other - but such distortions take place that one is clearly no longer the other.  It's not even about &amp;quot;not being mainstream&amp;quot;, it's about that place and time when one religion truly ceases to be it's parent religion.  You would be fully inaccurate to call a christian merely a &amp;quot;Jesus loving Jew&amp;quot;.  Christianity became its own religion in the year 30 (give or take) when our Lord died and rose for us.  For the Nation of Islam, with the Prophet Elijah claiming to be the reincarnation of Mohammad, they cease to be merely &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; and become their own religion.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 11:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==57 Islamic states==&lt;br /&gt;
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I attempted to make this article better by noting, as several other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; could be a reference to Heinz ketchup or simple a misstatement (Obama had visited 47 states), as well as the fact that there were not 57 Islamic states when Obama attended an Indonesian school. It was reverted. Why? Is this an encyclopedia, or a liberal hate blog? [[User:Egen|Egen]] 10:42, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your edit was baseless, and probably politically motivated.  The entry is factual and will remain that way.  Obama has likely remained a Muslim long after attending grade school.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On the subject, I think someone should add the following line to your page: &amp;quot;The odds against Aschlafly's claim to be named 'Andrew Schlafly' being truthful are less than 1 billion to one, as fewer than 6 people in the world are named Andrew Schlafly.&amp;quot; Don't put malarkey like this on a serious encyclopedia page and defend it as being &amp;quot;factual&amp;quot;. I remind you of Conservapedia Commandments 1, 2, and 5. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 11:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In any case, I fail to see how it is &amp;quot;baseless&amp;quot; to note, as other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; cannot possibly be a reference to &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; and probably has a more benign origin. It does not to any good to assert that anyone who disagrees with you probably does so because they are &amp;quot;politically motivated&amp;quot; (read: liberal) when many conservatives have expressed disdain for this point. I doubt that the majority of Conservapedia editors would disagree with my edit. This encyclopedia is not a personal blog for you or for anyone else. Therefore, I am reinserting the edit. If anyone can provide proof that Obama was referring to the &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; which did not exist when he was growing up '''and''' provide proof that that is what he was referring to, I'll retract this. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 12:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Egen - I entirely agree with you. A lot of people here think this is a redstate comments thread rather than, as it says in the top left corner, &amp;quot;the trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot;. Snopes on this one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp&lt;br /&gt;
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==Biased==&lt;br /&gt;
Isn't this site supposed to be unbaised?-[[User:Red4tribe|Red4tribe]] 16:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;born, allegedly, in Honolulu&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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there's no doubt he was ''born''. that should read &amp;quot;allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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God bless. [[User:JohnBarma|JohnBarma]] 13:30, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As the previous poster said, &amp;quot;(born, allegedly, in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;, implies that he may not have been born, which I think is not what is intended.  &amp;quot;Allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot; has the same problem.  Putting aside whether or not the &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; is silly (and frankly I think the factcheck.org folks debunked this one), if you want to convey the idea that he was born, but may have been born somewhere other than Hawaii, then it should read &amp;quot;(born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;.  Comma placement matters. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 20:58, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Favorite black leader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just finished reading Dreams from My Father. I don't recommend it. But one thing I missed was a reference to Malcolm X being Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot;. He speaks highly of Malcolm X's autobiography, but doesn't like the &amp;quot;religious baggage&amp;quot; that the guy &amp;quot;discarded in later life&amp;quot;. Is the reference here correct? [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 17:10, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Search Google on {&amp;quot;Malcolm X&amp;quot; Obama favorite} and you'll find numerous credible confirmations of the statement about Malcolm X being Obama's favorite black leader.  The entry need not be limited to the silly Dreams book.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:03, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not really seeing it. Various claims Obama loves Malcolm X's autobiography (which, subject to the point above, seems correct), but the claims that he is Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot; all cite no reference, or cite Dreams - I think incorrectly. Is there a source for Obama having said or written this? If not, it should go. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 18:12, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree that it should be sourced, preferably with a quote from his book or one of his speeches, otherwise it could be mistaken for an untrue rumor.  If he qualified the statement with something about X's religion, as Marcdaniels noted above, that should be included in the quote.  I looked for a credible source, but couldn't find one.  I have added a fact tag, which can be removed when a suitable citation is found. (Let's not forget that Malcolm X was involved with the Nation of Islam, which is quite a different thing than traditional Islam.  He rejected the Nation of Islam later in life.)--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:13, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Examples supporting the statement are easy to find.  I just added one.  I don't think anyone seriously doubts the truth of the statement.  Feel free to find and add other citations supporting it.  The discomfort expressed above seems to be with the fact itself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Your source goes back to the book, which I'd thought we'd both agreed wasn't on point. It's entirely plausible that Obama might regard Malcolm X as his favorite black leader, and that would discomfort me in the slightest, but I'm having real difficulty finding any evidence that he has said or written this. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 07:40, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, you've misread me now.  I did not agree that book wasn't on point.  I did say there is further evidence beyond the book, which is easy to find on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: The quote from the book is convincing enough.  If you won't accept it, then I doubt you would accept anything now.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;if elected, Obama will become the first black, and possibly Muslim, President of the United States.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's the problem with this sentence in place of the one currently there? For starters, it isn't proven that he's Muslim, but it ''is'' proven that he's black, so certainly it should be mentioned over the hypothetical. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The racial composition of all the past presidents is not completely known, so I doubt it's appropriate to insist that Obama would be the '''first''' black President.  Also, the racial composition of a man is not as important as his beliefs.  It is known that none of the prior presidents were Muslim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well said, Aschlafly.  It is the content of a person's character that should determine how we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; them.  Although, who are we to judge?  I suspect, however, looking at the photos, that Senator Obama would at least be the first President (if elected) with a clear [[African American]] heritage.  Whether a few others may have had a lineage leading back to Africa in their family tree is another, albeit interesting, question. [[User:Human|Human]] 23:16, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's an interesting argument. If we know so little about the former presidents that we cannot say whether any of them met society's contemporaneous definition of Black - the one-drop rule, for example - then how can we say than none of them were Muslim? If they could keep their African ancestry secret, why not their true religion? Is there evidence of political opponents accusing a candidate of being of mixed-blood ancestry?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 23:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: As to whether past presidents were Muslims, simply look at what they did and said ... including before they became politically ambitious.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:33, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot;, or at least &amp;quot;decide&amp;quot; when we vote.  However, when did &amp;quot;judge not... [lest ye be judged]&amp;quot; become a &amp;quot;liberal canard&amp;quot;?  I thought it was a warning in the Bible not to overstep our bounds?  Voting, of course, does not overstep them - we pencil in a space, or pull a lever.  That is not &amp;quot;judgment&amp;quot;, it is an expression of personal opinion or preference or ideas.  Moving beyond that simple step, however, leads us into judgment territory, potentially.  When we should be humble and add commentary on ourselves as well as those we judge is an issue of personal ethics - or morality.  A good time to sit down with good words and contemplate. [[User:Human|Human]] 01:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like someone to please explain to me how this is unbais? At least with the article you can try to make something up saying how its unbais but the main picture is trying to show very obviouisly that Obama is unpatriotic... If you look at McCains page or Palins the picture of professionally done. Please someone give me a reasonable answer [[User talk:Horriblesite]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Funny you should comment. Is it Conservapedia making Obama unpatriotic or is it Obama who IS unpatriotic? I will say the latter.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, &amp;quot;unbais&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;professionally done&amp;quot; are Liberal canards. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Are these the same thing? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 15:34, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing that bothers me about Obama is the comments attributed to his wife. 1. That it was the first time she was proud of america and 2.That black children had no future in america. Both she and her husband are examples of how well a black child can do so its hard to understand why she has that view. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 16:38, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::See similar comments from John McCain: http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/06/mccain-it-can-be-%E2%80%9Ctough%E2%80%9D-to-be-proud-of-usa/   “I’ll admit to you … that it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said when asked by a questioner at a town hall meeting how to be proud of the country. “We have not always done things right and we mismanaged the war in Iraq very badly for nearly four years.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect this very obvious fake photo (look at how small the two women are compared to the chairs behind them, check out the flag's edges itself and what exactly is holding it up) was placed here by people hoping to discredit Conservapedia. I understand a popular activity among liberals and vandals is to insert things seeming to support Conservative and Christian values, but that are either extreme or fake, and so undermine the encyclopedia as a whole.--[[User:TruthOfChrist|TruthOfChrist]] 11:11, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It isn't fake.  Many other photos of this occasion exist.  Video, too.  The goofy-looking perspective is an artifact of the angle and lens used. --[[User:XavierJ|XavierJ]] 12:29, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp {{unsigned|Littleriverr}}&lt;br /&gt;
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- The first sentence says Obama was born in Hawaii.  At first I was under the impression that someone decided to act in a competent manner and remove the baseless innuendo about his place of birth.  Alas I was mistaken because later in the article the word 'alleged' is still used.  I thought all reasonable people would presume that a document from the State of Hawaii would suffice to prove one's citizenship instead of using the rants of the lunatic fringe.&lt;br /&gt;
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: A lawsuit has been filed by someone seeking the real birth certificate.  Complain to him, and explain why it still apparently has not been produced.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The state of Hawaii is not just going to let anybody get a copy of Obama's birth certificate, let alone his original.  I can't even get my hands on my own original birth certificate and I'll bet neither can you.  A certified copy of Obama's birth certificate has been provided for anyone to look at.  If this copy is good enough for our government officials that are not part of the lunatic fringe, then why isn't it good enough for Conservapedia?  I'd like to think Conservapedia is not aligning itself with the likes of the people filing these nonsense lawsuits.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama only attended religious schools until he reached the age of ten (Islamic and Catholic).  The rest of his education from Punahou School, Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard was nonsectarian.  Clearly the vast majority of his education was non-religious. [[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Obama's formative years were spend being indoctrinated in Islam.  Less than 1% convert to Christianity after that experience.  Enough said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was never under the impression that a person's formative years stopped at the age of ten.  According to you, Obama shouldn't be a liberal because he attended conservative religious schools during his alleged formative years, 6 - 10.  How is it that he is now a liberal after living another 35+ years and attending an ivy-league college?  You are also ignoring his years in a Catholic school during his time in Indonesia.  Why?  If he spent two of his formative years at a Catholic school, shouldn't he be a Catholic?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Malcom X was not THE leader of the Nation of Islam, he was A leader.  There is a distinct difference. [[http://www.finalcall.com/national/savioursday2k/hem_nation.htm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Nitpicking here.  I'll change &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; for you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Don't do it for me, do it for the reputation of Conservapedia.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama was baptized in 1988, the same year he started attending Harvard.  If there is a reference stating he was baptized prior to his political ambitions, please post it.  [[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1988 makes no sense, as no one ever saw any Christian behavior or church attendance by Obama at law school from 1988 to 1991.  Post his baptismal certificate.  You can't and neither can Obama.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why doesn't 1988 make any sense?  Was there a problem with my reference?  Are you able to provide reputable evidence that Obama's baptism didn't occur in 1988?  Just because a person doesn't attend church on a regular basis or hardly at all is not a reason to deny someone's baptism.  Elsewhere in this article is criticism directed at Obama's CHRISTIAN pastor of 20 years.  Either Obama is a Christian that attended a Christian church for 20 years or he is not.  If he is a Muslim, then why all the fuss about his Christian pastor of 20 years?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Just because someone reads a book allegedly 'from a Muslim point-of-view' does not mean they are actually a Muslim.  I have read parts of the book and I am not a Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It adds to the evidence.  If Obama were reading the Bible, then that would detract from the evidence.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama does read his Bible and has encouraged others to do so as well.  Would like a reference?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Roosevelt communicated with America's enemies.  After the outbreak of WW II, Roosevelt was negotiating with the Japanese.  Things didn't go well and the Japanese were embargoed, thus losing most of their import capability including over 90% of their oil supplies. [[http://www.fff.org/freedom/1291c.asp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your point is lacking here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::In reference to Obama saying we should talk to our enemies, the following claim was made, &amp;quot;Roosevelt spoke with none of the Axis or Japanese leaders and the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender.&amp;quot;  Roosevelt and members of his administration talked to our enemies, the reference provided by the article was written by a columnist with a distinct lack of historical credibility.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- If Obama' likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students', then which scholarships were they?  Could a reference at least be provided?&lt;br /&gt;
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: You tell us.  Obama won't disclose who paid for his education.  He claimed he worked his way through school, but that was disproved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why should I tell you?  The claim was made in the article without a shred of evidence to back it up.  I do happen to know that the Obama's used college loans to pay for much of their schooling and they only just recently paid them off with the proceeds from his books.  Since someone writing for Conservapedia is making the incredible claim that Obama was somehow able to acquire loans not available to most others, shouldn't a reference be provided so the claim will withstand scrutiny? --[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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- Any chance a reference could be provided for the claim concerning the flag pin?  The way it reads now makes the entry look like partisan whining.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Be clearer.  No one denies Obama avoided wearing a flag pin as he catered to the anti-war crowd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The claim, ' Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering' was made without a reference.  Any chance this opinion could be verified so the article doesn't sound like a smear?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The general tone of the article makes it look like a partisan smear campaign, not the encyclopedic scholarly work Conservapedia alleges to produce.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 17:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think your conclusion applies more to your own comments.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks for your response.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.''  I think this statement needs to be tweaked a bit.  While it's true that Malcolm X was a leader in the Nation of Islam (a radical black separatist group, not to be confused with the traditional Islam faith), by the time he wrote his autobiography (as told to Alex Haley, of Roots fame), he had rejected the Nation of Islam and converted to traditional Islam.  If Obama was inspired by the book to take up Malcolm's religion (which is a stretch, IMHO, as lots of people have read this book and not become Muslims), he would most likely have chosen traditional Islam like Malcolm did.  I think it's important to make that distinction clear.  (Unless this item is intended to suggest that Obama is a member of the Nation of Islam?  If so, it should be in a different section, as it's quite a different claim.)  FWIW, Malcolm X was assassinated in 1965, four years after Obama's birth.  Also, the title of the book is ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X''.  So I suggest this item be changed to something like:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama has written that reading ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X'' inspired him in his youth.  Malcolm X converted to traditional Islam after leaving the radical Nation of Islam (a black separatist group).&lt;br /&gt;
:Sounds considered and precise.  Most black muslims are NOT NOI, they are in fact sunni Muslim.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 20:11, 20 October 2008 &lt;br /&gt;
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== Obamas Grandmother==&lt;br /&gt;
Breaking news, Americans still forbidden to speak with Obamas grandmother. Now, we may never. Democrat Barack Obama is canceling nearly all his campaign events Thursday and Friday to fly to Hawaii to visit his suddenly ill 86-year-old grandmother.&lt;br /&gt;
Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters Monday that Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, who helped raise him, was released from the hospital late last week. But he says her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggesting corrections to 'atom bomb' sentance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should not say &amp;quot;atom bombs&amp;quot; because this is slang expression. It should be &amp;quot;atomic bombs&amp;quot; except since 1960s it usually is said &amp;quot;nuclear bombs&amp;quot; and even then there are other weapons from bombs (missles are not bombs, then there are torpedoes and so on) so it should say &amp;quot;nuclear weapons.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally and this is just style, I do not like the '''Bold text''', it makes look rather alarming, not that we are not alarmed about this, but I think it is best to say the raw facts directly and people will know to be alarmed, instead of trying to shock people with text formatting into coming to their sense. I heard Conservapedia wants to get away from &amp;quot;that other encyclopedia&amp;quot;'s use of sensationism and tabloid style, so, maybe take off the bold. [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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other than this a very good job in the article, maybe it is too late to change direction your country is going, but at least people will know who had the facts before things all went wrong! [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I appreciate your comments but don't find them compelling.  &amp;quot;Atom bombs&amp;quot; is a familiar term; whether Clinton did likewise concerning terrorists is irrelevant; and bolding is obviously helpful for emphasis.  Thanks anyway and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:44, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I plan to stick to the 90-10 ratio here, and this is the first comment I've made, I did want to note that I agree with Eleger about &amp;quot;Atomic Bombs&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Nuclear Weapons&amp;quot; simply on the basis of the being more accurate terms. My person phrase of choice would be Nuclear arsenal though. Maybe nitpicking, but I think fair. -EternalCritic&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came to post that too; I also have a problem with &amp;quot;first&amp;quot; part of &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's atom bombs&amp;quot;. The most recent Democrat President was bad too. OTOH, something like &amp;quot;second person...&amp;quot; might distract from the point that Obama is a threat.[[User:MikeMike|MikeMike]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== How low can you go? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this meant as an &amp;quot;How To&amp;quot; article on character assassination? Though I do find some of the 'links' in the Obama and Islam hilarious, I'd thought that the conservative parts of the US had a shred of dignity left. It appears not to be the case. But keep feeding the lies to your fellow yes-men, the rest of us are quite amused.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We are not going low at all, You Who Did Not Leave Your Name. This entry is nothing about the truth about Barack Obama. Unfortunately, liberals like you will not find out until it is too late.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 21:20, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: ''&amp;quot;the rest of us are quite amused.&amp;quot;'' I am sure the leftwingers are quite amused of the nonstop Obama media lovefest. I am sure they are also amused at the whole disenfranchisement of voting in a Democracy thanks to ACORN. I am on a conservative website and I can't find a good Obama bio, shucks billybob, I need the Obama I can believe in, let's look at MSNBC... La La La, liberal fantasy land.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: In response to the first (unsigned) comment above, liberals enjoy deceit.  But not everyone is fooled by it, and liberals get very irritable when they see that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:57, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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This is a very interesting high school project. However, I was wondering what measures the authors take to prevent stupidity from creeping into these articles? Let's not even talk about the factual correctness -- I am interested in the ability of this &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; to present cogent paragraphs of  text. Let's look at the first few sentences:&lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;In 2007, Obama was rated the most liberal Senator by the National Journal, who had rated Senator John Kerry the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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The construction of this sentence implies that it is Kerry's rating that provides credence to the National Journal. Is the National Journal a questionable source otherwise? &lt;br /&gt;
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''If elected, Obama would likely become the first Muslim President, and could use the Koran to be sworn into office.''&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;would likely become&amp;quot; -- this phrase looks like something a recent learner of American English might write. Some examples of recent learners are Arab and Mexican immigrants. I do not see any objective explanations of the likelihood or its impact.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;could use the Koran&amp;quot; -- you are implying that he has the option to use the Koran to be sworn in. I don't see how this is interesting information : there are no rules of conduct during the oath. This sentence is as valuable as &amp;quot;could use a caribou head as a tertiary witness of the oath&amp;quot; -- it is not relevant and does not impact any of the other sentences in the article. I would like some detailed explanations as to why the Koran, specifically is undesirable and why it will bring forth a momentous event in American history. &lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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Misplaced metaphor : why is &amp;quot;tripping over his own feet&amp;quot; relevant? The intent of an encyclopedia is to be informative. For a young conservative, the first two paragraphs are highly confusing and hard to read. You have to make this stuff accessible to the kids. Where are the links that specify what &amp;quot;tripping over his own feet&amp;quot; means, and why it is not desirable? An encyclopedia should be complete and sound in its logic and information. Perhaps there should be a link to an article about Tripping.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, when talking about a person, one needs present information in an orderly manner. For example, the Obama article should start with lines about his questionable birth, which according to an editorial in a reputed conservative website, would have not taken occurred since Obama mandates the killing of unborn babies from less than ideal circumstances, like his own. Then, it should proceed with details about his childhood in Islamic countries, and then move on to his current stature and his perception amongst the true American people.&lt;br /&gt;
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If the intent of this website is to inform little children about the true America, then it needs to be complete and comprehensive. The quality of this article will leave kids with more confusion in their minds than they started with. This confusion will lead to a lack in curiosity and will hinder the relevance of  this website. Hence, for the sake of Conservapedia project, please improve the way these paragraphs are written.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Trueism, I think there's some credence to your argument, and the article is due for revision (or at least reorganization). I think a strong and clear organization of the article would lead to greater readability and increase interest. Put up a structure for reorganization and then maybe we can work together on focusing the article into a more cohesive piece and work out some of the grammatical issues. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 17:40, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I didn't find anything insightful in the above unsigned comment.  Organization of this entry, like all others, is to prioritize the information presented in terms of importance.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:17, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reprehensible ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Citations 7, 8 and 9 in the first bit of text on the Obama article are NOT true sources.  When following down to the footnote, I couldn't get to a site and was exposed, instead, to what appeared to be little more than anecdotal evidence based upon the observation of, I can only assume, the person who wrote this.  Any teacher, lawyer, judge, etc. would throw that out in two seconds for lack of credibility.  An epic failure, indeed, for Conservatives everywhere on the part of whoever wrote that intro.  I have edited it out. [[User:Acwellman|Acwellman]] 17:04, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I reinserted the footnotes as well as the paragraph that you removed relating to them. I think that your intentions were to cite only sources that can be proven to be &amp;quot;factually&amp;quot; true rather than things that can be inferred by the users of this website, and it doesn't always work like that. Citations 7 and 9 are inferences, not facts, but are seen as viable. If you have issue with this, I suggest you take it up with Andy.&lt;br /&gt;
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To be honest, I think the issue you have is with the conservative point of view expressed on the page and site. If this is the case, perhaps this isn't the place for you. I'm not trying to be rude or scare you off, but I do want to explain that if you come to &amp;quot;Conservapedia&amp;quot; and don't expect to see something conservative, then you're kidding yourself.--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 17:17, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I don't have a problem with a conservative viewpoint, in fact I welcome it; it's the pushing of the conservative political agenda that doesn't belong in a &amp;quot;Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot;.  But, if CP wants to keep marginalizing itself, I figure that's CP's business.  I'll keep contributing either way.&lt;br /&gt;
:As for the subject at hand, the references are inadequate.  An opinion piece and two unsupported statements.  If Obama really said that regarding debates with Hillary, there should be a link or other reference showing it.  As for the Saddleback Forum, surely there's a Youtube video or something.  Why not link to it and let people decide for themselves whether Obama fumbled or not?--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 17:29, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Meaning of Hussein ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This has been brought up before, but I just wanted to do some research so we could clear it up:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; 1st point: According to the Oxford Dictionary of First Names, 2nd Edition (published 2006 by the Oxford University Press; authors Patrick Hanks, Kate Hardcastle, and Flavia Hodges; ISBN 0-19-861060-2) Hussein means this:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;quot; '''Husayn''' ♂ Diminutive of ''hasan'' 'good, beautiful, exquisite.' Al-Husayn (''c''.626-680) was the grandson of the Prophet, whose supporters emerged after his death as the Shiite party.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; Hussein is a variant of Husayn, yet it is unlisted in this dictionary. However, I think that it is apparent that this is simply a modified/altered form of the phonetic equivalent, much like Katherine/Catherine/Kathryn. Hussein/Husayn WAS the grandson of the Prophet, but to say that the name means such is akin to claiming that Mary means &amp;quot;Mother of Jesus.&amp;quot; It may be a colloquial usage or have that connotative meaning, but until there is proof of that, then the entry seems to be incorrect.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; 2nd point: The source currently referenced (http://www.sudairy.com) displays this for the definition of Hussein:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;'''Husain, Husayn, Hussein''' - Beautiful, doer of good deads[sic]; a descendent[sic] of the Prophet&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; which implies that the Oxford source is 1) more accurate as it is verifiable and edited by a trustworthy source and capable speller, and 2) &amp;quot;descendent[sic] of the Prophet&amp;quot; is in reference to the original namesake, though it is not clearly marked. If we are to trust sudairy.com as being completely accurate, however, then anyone named Hayyan, Hannad, or Nizar have the denotative travesty of meaning &amp;quot;Old Arabic Name.&amp;quot; I think the entry should be changed to reflect this. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 16:52, 3 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I listed the incorrect meaning as &amp;quot;descendent[sic] of the Prophet.&amp;quot; This is from the website Suidairy.com, which is not an accurate source of information (my justification is the last paragraph of the first post). The definition I feel is most accurate is the Oxford one, listed above, which lists the definition as &amp;quot;good, beautiful, exquisite.&amp;quot; Al-Husayn (a man, not a name) was the descendant of the prophet. For comparison, anyone named Jesus would not be assumed to be the son of God. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 16:25, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== No longer presumptive ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He's the real-deal nominee at this point. [[User:Athuroglossos|Athuroglossos]] 13:11, 29 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:He's presumptive in the sense that Obama is far too inexperienced to be President. [[User:Redstatepride|Redstatepride]] 18:56, 29 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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All students in Indonesia, regardless of religion get off for Islamic holy days including Nabi Isa which we know as Christmas.  It's disengenuous to make a claim that because he went to a public school and got an Islamic holy day off that there's some nefarious connection.  Muslims that attend Catholic school have to attend Mass whether they like it or not.--[[User:EmpressG1973|EmpressG1973]] 17:01, 28 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the point is that Barack Hussein Obama was observing an islamic holy day when he is claiming to be Christian.  It just does'nt add up to alot of people and should make Christians think twice about him.  --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually it was his '''school''' that was observing the holiday. When a child attends a school, they can't just choose which days they want to take off. Your argument is ridiculous.-- [[User:rkstiner|rkstiner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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How is my point incorrect?  You can nit-pick it all you want but Obama attended a muslim school and observed muslim holidays.  Thats all there is to it.  Take your liberal name-calling elsewhere. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Name calling?....where?[[User:Rkstiner|Rkstiner]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:So a Jew who attends a public school in this country doesn't go to school on Christmas, so he is therefore observing a Christian holiday? Making him, I suppose, a Christian? Doesn't make sense. [[User:MichaelR|MichaelR]] 16:08, 3 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You shouldn't have to defend it at all.  Barack Hussein Obama is very likely a muslim there is strong evidence to suggest it.  Since when is being a muslim such a bad thing?  It's not, unless your running for President and try to lie about it. --[[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Patriot, your argument is one of the weakest that I have ever witnessed in my life; it is biased, and it doesn't stick to facts, rather it reflects your own personal views.  You strike me as one of those people who believes that if a lie is told enough it will become true.  If we go by your hypothesis, Rkstiner and others are right: a Jew who doesn't attend school on Christmas is transitively a Christian...Why don't you give Ann Coulter a call?  I'm sure she'd go on a date with you.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion Explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We don't post a politician's self-serving claptrap.  Obama catered to anti-patriotic donors to win the nomination.  There's no real dispute about that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:53, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Remember, Conservapedia is billed as trustworthy, and children read this website. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 15:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's your point? That children don't need to know he flip flopped on wearing a flag pin? [[User:TJason|TJason]] 15:39, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The point is that children especially should be told the truth. Include the flip-flopping by all means, but also include his explanation for why he did flip-flop. This has more validity then stating &amp;quot;but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;quot; Adequate to whom? By what criteria is the inadequacy judged? If he had explained it by saying &amp;quot;it's none of your business&amp;quot;, or did not offer an explanation, then certainly that would qualify as &amp;quot;without adequate explanation.&amp;quot; Remember: Conservapedia is billed as trustworthy. [[User:Yesaliberal|Yesaliberal]] 15:56, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I agree that citing his explanation and then explaining why conservatives find it inadequate would be an improvement. I would make said improvement, but I am currently hard &amp;quot;at work&amp;quot;. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 16:09, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't get any of the above.  What does wearing a flag-pin have to do with one's loyalty to his or her country?  The flag-pin evolved as an icon of the Iraq War and a lot of people, Republicans and Dems alike, do not support the war.  I don't wear a flag pin, but that doesn't mean that I don't love my country.  [[User:Acwellman|Acwellman]] 10:59, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Flag-pin evolved after 9/11 as a sign of patriotism. BO's reasons for not wearing and his change of position, plus his other anti-patriotic (see national anthem phot) are relevent.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:37, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Affirmative Action President ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I reverted the removal of &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; for now. Corey, can you explain why this is racist? If affirmative action isn't racist, why is describing someone as an &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; racist? Is your problem with the description that it is racist? Or that it is untrue? I think these are two separate issues. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 10:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This speaks to what I think is an enormous problem with affirmative action (no, I'm not a complete supporter), claiming that a minority only got a job because they are a minority. I think that claiming that Barack Obama's political success comes only from his being black is racist demagoguery, or at least rhetoric designed to incite racial tensions. I have no doubt that there are some people who support Obama only because of the color of his skin, just the same as there are those who oppose him only for the same reason. Also, I will not say that there isn't a desire by many people to see somebody other than white male in the White House. But this is not the ''only'' reason most of Obama's supporters have for supporting him, as the term &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; suggests. He has political experience and he is a deft politician, which figures greatly in a political campaign. I would implore anybody who considers Obama to have no accomplishments to compare his life to that of our sitting president before 2000. Some time in office, a string of business failures, and questionable service in the Texas Air National Guard. Fortunately for G.W. Bush, his father is Bush 41. Bush supporters discuss his successes as his own doing. Claiming that Obama's are not his own because he is black sounds rather racist to me. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 11:16, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::George W. Bush was governor of Texas; some people consider that to be a political accomplishment.  I think you will have to go pretty far back to find a candidate for President whose entire political career was two years as a Senator.  In 1988 Dan Quayle was blasted for his lack of experience for a Vice Presidential candidate, and he had already served many more years in the Congress than Barack Obama has.  Like it or not Obama was fasttracked and bypassed the usual protocols because of the color of his skin.  Whether or not this is appropriate is left to each individual to decide. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 11:32, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::A governorship is certainly a political accomplishment, one which George W. Bush would probably have been unable to attain were it not for his father's name. There is hardly any information on the George W. Bush entry on this site pertaining to his life before his presidency, the details of which would likely lead many people to conclude that were George H.W. Bush not so well-connected his son would not be president. In contrast, the opening paragraph of Obama's entry uses his race to attack him politically. I find this hard to rationalize. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::There is not usually an understood litmus test for governor. Some people are longterm politicians, others are not. For instance Arnold held only minor political appointments before he became governor of California. But the Presidency has generally required proving yourself in some capacity. Bush was a well respected governor who received high marks. Carter, Clinton, and Reagan had all been governors. Someone running for President who has not successfully governed a state and has only been in Congress for 2 years is very out of the ordinary. Again, note what Quayle was put through and he was only a Vice Presidential candidate. That being said, I am not necessarily supporting the article in the form it has taken. I have not read it in quite some time, but if it is a leadoff then that would seem to be inappropriate. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 12:47, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Obama's experience is fair game, and I agree that he has not had as much time in political office as the average candidate. I think that using race as an issue detracts from this fair and logical line of debate. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:53, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't think that the term &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; suggests that affirmative action is the '''only''' reason Obama is where he is. I think the term is supposed to denote that his being black is a '''major''' force behind his success. Also, I think the term brings to light that, historically, this is a first. No previous nominee has been the beneficiary of affirmative action in the way Obama has. At any rate, ''I'' won't revert the edit if you remove it again, since you've made your case and I am not willing to fight to keep it in. I suspect others might, though. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 11:37, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Where has he explicitly benefited from affirmative action programs? This is a &amp;quot;heads, I win, tails, you lose&amp;quot; situation. If he doesn't get into Harvard Law or win an election, it's because of lack of merit. If he succeeds, it's because the standards were lowered due to his race. This is an extremely dubious political argument. Attack him on his policies, voting record, character, or fitness to lead: fire as they bear! That's our process, and it's a good process. But these race arguments are petty, desperate, and drag our political discourse down to a despicable level. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:04, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I am pretty sure that Harvard Law Review has an affirmative action policy, but I will have to check. Regardless, I think the term also covers &amp;quot;implicit&amp;quot; affirmative action that has benefited Obama (e.g. a white candidate with his experience would not be taken seriously). [[User:TJason|TJason]] 12:10, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;quot;Implicit&amp;quot; affirmative action seems to be in the realm of vagueness and speculation. I refer you to Conservapedia Commandment 1: &amp;quot;Everything you post must be true and verifiable.&amp;quot; [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:25, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Like I said, I'm not really willing to fight over this. We are at least in agreement that this is a distraction from the real issue: his actual positions. I reverted the edit because I thought what was said in the edit comment should have been spelled out in the talk page. It has been. Therefore, if you want to remove the reference again, I won't revert it again.[[User:TJason|TJason]] 12:29, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I have no intention of perpetuating a pointless revert war, either, and I agree that discussion of the real issues suffer because of such statements. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:32, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Alleged&amp;quot; birth revert ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Even the National Review doesn't dispute the [http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= authenticity of Obama's birth certificate.] Why is Obama's birth information being censored by this website? [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:30, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There is no censorship here. Removing any mention that there is doubt about the authenticity of his birth certificate is censorship, imho. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 12:34, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::However, the way rumor is so prominently injected into the article within the first five words is clear weasel-wording. A separate section regarding the issue would be more appropriate than saying that he was &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; born somewhere, and I wouldn't oppose such a section. Seeing as how you usually hear the word &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; on the news while watching a video of a perp walk, it is unnecessarily loaded language. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 12:42, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::And accusing senior CP members of &amp;quot;weasel-wording&amp;quot; isn't loaded? You should watch your step. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 12:46, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: We know many [[liberal]]s love [[deceit]], and the birth certificate posted by [[Obama]]'s campaign has obvious defects.  Even its number is blotted out for unexplained reasons.  There are still unanswered questions about his place and date of birth, and what is on his real certificate, which his campaign has not released.  We provide the information about this and let the reader decide.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:12, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then maybe the thing to do would be to dedicate a separate section to present the issue. It would be much clearer and provide more information than the status quo. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 14:16, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I have reverted another removal of the word &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; since there are still unanswered questions about his birth certificate. Is the consensus that this should be made into a new section? [[User:TJason|TJason]] 17:18, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I would agree with a section. This entire article could do with a better layout and more sectioning. Our John McCain article is better in this regard - perhaps we could use this as a blueprint? [[User:DefenderofTrue|DefenderofTrue]] 17:38, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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(unindent) We seem to be in agreement. I'll make a section tomorrow, under the &amp;quot;Published Criticism&amp;quot; section. I would like to add that I love it when people of different viewpoints can meet in the middle. Good night. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 23:44, 12 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I like the changes you have made. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 11:37, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::(edit conflict) Thank you. As discussed, I added a section regarding the birth certificate controversy and removed &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; from the intro paragraph. I tried to make it as evenly written as I could. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 11:40, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, what is up with the &amp;lt;span&amp;gt; tag at the beginning of the article? I don't know what this is used for, but it doesn't appear to be doing anything except make &amp;quot;span&amp;quot; the first word in the article. [[User:TJason|TJason]] 11:44, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::1. You're right- I scanned the diff and thought he removed the Daily Kos ref. 2. I don't know. I never noticed it before. [[User:Corry|Corry]] 11:46, 14 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Berg, Obama’s paternal grandmother has said she was present at his birth in Kenya, after which his mother promptly returned with her baby to the United States. [http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_smears_fact_check/2008/10/20/142379.html] --'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:29, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:That source doesn't say what you claim it says. The source ''does'' say, however, that &amp;quot;No reporter has been allowed to see the original certificate of live birth or its certificate number, which is blacked out on copies of it on the Obama site.&amp;quot; This is false, and has been false for months: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 16:43, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay... to start things off I am deathly afraid of this man getting elected and think he would ruin our wonderful nation. I do think that the media is helping him and realize that he is basically &amp;quot;the chosen one.&amp;quot; My conservative principles help me make all of those opinions. Heres the thing. This place exists because someone thought that wikipedia was biased and unfair... but honestly... some of this stuff borders on propaganda! For Pete's sake our job as conservatives is too tell the truth and expose things about him. This page is going too far. I'm embarrassed to know that my fellow conservatives wrote this! This page can still be dedicated to exposing the truth about &amp;quot;the chosen one.&amp;quot; But we'll be SO much more effective if we do it properly and fairly. If you want to contact me its easier to do so at my wikipedia talk page of the same name. Thank you and lets try to do better please. [[User:Saksjn|Saksjn]] 15:32, 21 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: A true conservative would be appalled at Wikipedia and not contribute to their cause-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 20:39, 12 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I copied this from the [[Talk:Main_Page#Obama_Born_In_U.S.A.|Main Page Talk section]] to here because you all might find it of interest. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 11:32, 23 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Look at this photo], is this Barack Obama's birth certificate? [[User:Visitor|Visitor]] 23:44, 22 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It's interesting that they finally give the, so-called authentic, birth certificate number in this supposedly unfaked photo. It is '''151 1961 - 010641'''. The reason I bring this up, and I think the REAL reason this was masked, is because numerological analysis shows something very disturbing. If you add up the three sets of digits thus:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;151 + 1961 + 010641 = 12753&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;and then add the individual digits of the result thus:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;1 + 2 + 7 + 5 + 3 = 18&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;the final result, 18, is the product of three sixes (3 x 6 = 18). Three sixes, or [[666]], sort of speaks for itself. I just thought this was interesting. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 11:22, 23 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::One point missed. Obama is from Chicago. Chicago's zip code is 60606. Add those sixes you get the number of the Devil himself.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:40, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So am I. I new here and was hoping to find stuff that would challenge my beliefs, so far not much luck. [[User:Visitor|Visitor]] 21:21, 24 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can I quote myself? '''I just thought this was interesting.''' For &amp;quot;seriousness&amp;quot; [[Special:Contributions/AdmiralNelson|I stand by my record]]. Feel free to check it out. --[[User:AdmiralNelson|AdmiralNelson]] 11:29, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The guy filing the lawsuit doesn't dispute the fact that he he was born in Honolulu. He is disputing that Obama is a US citizen after he lived in Indonesia. So why does it say allegedly born still? [[User:Visitor|Visitor]] 19:08, 24 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think he does dispute it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:46, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: ASchlafly is correct - Philip J. Berg is alleging that Barrack Obama forged his birth-certificate because he was not a Natural Born US citizen. [http://obamacrimes.com/ Berg vs Obama] --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 14:50, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Don't dilute the entry by referring to the silly text messaging stunt in the first paragraph.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:46, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can I put it down in the Presidential Campaign section instead then? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 10:49, 25 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|On June 3rd, Barack Obama had received enough pledged delegates and the endorsement of superdelegates to be called the presumptive nominee of the Democratic Party by the Democratic National Committee. The nomination became official when Hillary Clinton conceded on June 7th.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Barack_Obama&amp;amp;diff=506483&amp;amp;oldid=505653 This link] should be commented out until [[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate| this abysmal essay]] is fixed. [[User talk:MargeryCampbell|Marge]] 17:11, 29 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The entire section regarding his comments about Pearl Harbor has got to go. There is no reason to imply that someone leaving an 's' off the word 'bomb' (''bomb'''s''''' did fall on Pearl Harbor, that much is true, right?) means they ignore or disdain American history. I'm guessing the McCain article makes no immediate mention of his confusion over the borders of Iran, or his lack of knowledge about the situation in Iraq, illustrated by the fact that he mixed up the Sunnis and the Shi'ites. Do either of those things make sense? NO! I'm sure John McCain knows what he's talking about, and I'm sure he's not confused about the issues at hand. Obviously, which course of action he chooses to follow is eternally and rightly up for debate, and if we want to highlight that debate about Obama, then that's fine. But it's ridiculous - nay, ridicule-worthy - to say that Obama leaving out an 's' means he thinks Pearl Harbor was nuked. That's so stupid it turns neurons into Pop Rocks. [[User:OtherSide|OtherSide]] 19:51, 31 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, it should stay, the man's an idiot, clearly.   Also - I added the &amp;quot;any educated person would know&amp;quot; bit, which Jareddr just removed.   But I'd point out that many of the younger generation ''don't'' know that it wasn't one bomb.   I've even spoken to young folk who confuse Pearl Harbor with Hiroshima, and think that the nuclear bomb was dropped on Pearl Harbor!   It's remarkable how uneducated some of today's public-school educated youth are.   Also, people from foreign countries may not know the context of Obama's gaffe.  Perhaps that point might be allowed back in - Jareddr, if you want to re-word it yourself maybe?   I think it's kind of important, the stupidity of his point might be missed otherwise.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 14:55, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then state something to the effect of, &amp;quot;In actuality, multiple bombs were dropped on Pearl Harbor during the Japanese mission.&amp;quot;  You didn't say anything about being foreign-educated, only &amp;quot;any educated person...&amp;quot;  If you want to place it in context using my above phrasing, go ahead.  But the entire section has already been set up to switch verbal miscues for &amp;quot;idiocy&amp;quot; so no need to pile on, as they say. &lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, I'l do that then Jareddr, thanks for the suggestion.   As to the McCain entry, I don't think we need to highlight those issues, they're a distraction.   [[User:RobCross|RobCross]] 15:07, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The entry should be removed, since McCain failed to state how many homes he owns is no where to be seen on the McCain article. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 15:43, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Don't be ridiculous, Samuel.  Many everyday Americans have trouble remembering how many homes they own.  Sometimes they own a home, but it's in someone else's name, or it's just a vacation lodge, or it's a few homes on one piece of property.  Ask people on the street how many homes they own, and I guarantee very few will answer! --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:46, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::True, but he spoke about real estate business, and it's undeniably a large factor in the economy, which is a current problem. Compare that to Obama and 60 years ago? Oh Please. Thanks for the sarcasm Jared. :P [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 16:39, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: Obama isn't running to be a history teacher for the country either, though.  One could argue that if you're going to enforce a populist message, and cast yourself as an &amp;quot;everyman&amp;quot; and your opponent as &amp;quot;elite&amp;quot;, you should be able to answer how many homes you have on command.  We're not looking for net value, just a (presumably) single-digit number.  I'm not aware of any &amp;quot;everyman&amp;quot; that forgets that number, but I'm sure some &amp;quot;elite&amp;quot; may forget. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 16:07, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Obama can try that next, Samuel:  &amp;quot;Who cares about what happened at Pearl Harbor?  That was 60 years ago!!!&amp;quot;  Good luck to him and his supporters with that absurd approach.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:12, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::What's more absurd is putting words in my mouth (as well as Obama's, apparently?), as if I were trying to say that I didn't care about Pearl Harbor. I said no such thing. I was comparing something that happened over 60 years ago to present time in relevance to gaffe, nothing more and nothing less, in comparison to Obama's article and McCain's. [[User:SamuelHTD|SamuelHTD]] 19:29, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: Obama's gaffe was about an essential element of American history that defines our country; McCain's was not.  We do expect presidents to know important aspects of American history.  We really do.  We don't care if they can tell you how wealthy they are, or how many houses they own.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:35, 5 September 2008 (EDT)--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 19:35, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::And yet McCain's belief in an Iraq/Pakistan border - and his belief that a country named &amp;quot;Czechoslovakia&amp;quot; still exists - shows how out of touch he may be with the issues that matter NOW.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 19:42, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I won't compare the semantics of how you measure the impact and importance of a slip-up, but it ''is'' rather telling that the Obama article prominently features such a slip-up while the McCain article apparently doesn't. This doesn't compute. Both of them have had weird moments (&amp;quot;President Putin of Germany&amp;quot;, anybody?), and in fact, everybody has slip-ups. Bushisms, anybody? So why do we have to pick on Obama's mistakes alone?&lt;br /&gt;
:An encyclopedia needs consistent standards. Entries about similar topics should be comparable. They should be similar in style. They should follow the same intuitive standards.&lt;br /&gt;
:Overall, the McCain article looks like a very good example of how such an entry should look like (kudos to those who made it that way), and the Obama article is a prime example of something that would look great on some obvious right-wing propaganda site, but ''not'' in an encyclopedia. The part before the TOC should be condensed and moved to another part of the article. The intro section (the part before the TOC) is supposed to be an ''intro''. It should briefly sum up who he is and what he does, period. Then come biography sections, then his political stuff, then the Presidential campaign. And THERE you should feature the notable events or slip-ups. I'm most definitely no Obama supporter, but when comparing the McCain and Obama articles, you don't have to do a deep analysis to figure out that this site is way more political activism than encyclopedia, and I think that should change. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 20:22, 5 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember when George H. W. Bush got the date wrong for Pearl Harbor by months?  And he's a WWII veteran!  'Bomb' was a slip of the tongue, nothing more. [[User:CraigC|CraigC]] 21:14, 18 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Citation Needed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a teleprompter and rarely allows tough questions.&lt;br /&gt;
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After one debate against Hillary Clinton in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tone of the article on Obama ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The whole tone of this article on Barack Obama is appalling. It is poorly written, inaccurate, misleading, insulting and thoroughly vile. I would be ashamed to publish such contemptible stuff.&lt;br /&gt;
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: That's your first -- and only -- contribution here.  Hope you can do better than that!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:17, 7 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's been some time since I last visited. Your article gives me immense pleasure to read. Imagine if Obama were headed for defeat, rather than McCain. Imagine if the Wikipedia article on McCain began,&amp;quot;Of dubious U.S. citizenship, 'John' McCain was allegedly born in Panama. It is not impossible and cannot be totally ruled out that the &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; refers to a propensity to patronize prostitutes, which are plentiful in that country.&amp;quot; Would you not show the article to your colleagues in great delight? We on the left salute you. You are almost as effective in our behalf as a fundraiser. ;-) [[User:Archer070]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I see someone is watching the Obama talk page like a hawk. I stand by my previous remarks and hope to be adding many more in the near future.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Good for you.  And my hope is that you'll have better contributions to this site than what you've done so far.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:25, 7 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I have to say that to a foreigner, this article reads like one-sided drivel. Some of it is so blatantly ridiculous that it gives a negative impression of the people writing it, not Obama. Surely you should be attacking him over his policies rather than a non-existent issue over where he was born or some completely pathetic nonsense about him taking holidays at the same time as other kids in his school. (Amazing but true: Sikh, Hindu, Muslim, Jewish and Buddhist children in Britain take holidays at Christmas and Easter; they don't volunteer for extra classes on those days.) This article reads as though you've given up all hope of defeating him on political grounds and are just falling back on rather silly personal remarks. Surely you can do better than that! (Kindly read that as constructive criticism.) [[User:Googly|Googly]] 19:45, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am a Canadian Conservative. I was surprised to see that McCain, Palin and Biden all have their official photographs on their pages, but Barack Obama has a press photo that portrays him in a negative light. Surely we can do better than that? Does this not just reinforce the feeling among undecided Americans and the rest of the world that the right has a major grudge against Obama? Perhaps because he is an African-American, etc? I am not attributing a reason why this site chose an unflattering photo of the only non-white candidate among the Big 4 in this election. It is just how it seems to an outsider. Come on, guys, he will most likely be the President in 2 weeks, let's not make that a little more likely. In case you missed it, these things just do two things:&lt;br /&gt;
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== I'm noticing a very disturbing pattern... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Alright, so notice that Lodovico makes an edit, and adds sufficient reasoning for his edit in the apt column. Notice then that Andrew changes it, and doesn't even look to the talk page to provide ANY reasoning.&lt;br /&gt;
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# (cur) (last) 14:19, 6 September 2008 Chippeterson (Talk | contribs) (58,052 bytes) (I don't like Obama anymore then ayone else on Conservapedia, but come on. The two pictures should be reversed) (undo)&lt;br /&gt;
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Here again we have a very reasonable edit, that it reverted without adequate explanation.&lt;br /&gt;
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# (cur) (last) 14:35, 25 August 2008 Impm (Talk | contribs) (57,106 bytes) (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html He was born in Hawaii unequivocally.) (undo)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm just wondering, but why is it we have to discuss changes we want to make whenever an edit conflict arises, but Andrew doesn't? This makes it essentially impossible to edit any article that Andrew has become party to because you can never know which of your edits will be acceptable or not. &lt;br /&gt;
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Am I alone in seeing this? Do I see a ghost ruffling the leafs or is it simply just the wind?[[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 19:51, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've noticed it too, but I didn't think asking him about it would change anything. Especially on the &amp;quot;affirmative action president&amp;quot; thing. --[[User:Ampersand|Ampersand]] 23:15, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::This is inane. It's been more at least a day now and we haven't even gotten a one sentence response yet; just more reverted edits without adequate explanation. [[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 18:28, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Welcome to conservapedia. Often if you attempt to question the work of ASchlafly, he will simply ignore you. --[[User:AndrasK|AndrasK]] 18:33, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jirby, be concise in your comments.  This site isn't a liberal blog where people talk, talk, talk without saying anything.  Reversions do not have a place for summarizing the reason in the wiki software.  Also, people who only criticize conservatives without criticizing the liberal vandals lack credibility.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:43, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So the best you can do... is complain that my words are too big and my sentences are too long? And here I was trying my best not to mischaracterize you. Shame on me! It is also clearly evident that revisions do not have a comment box, but how does that keep you from posting your reasons for consistently reverting factual edits here? It doesn't. My concern also isn't with liberal/conservative/anarchist vandals because they're freaking obvious and will be dealt with without my input (unless in the case of the uppity negro comment from before) they have fallen under the radar of authority and it behooves me to say something. Now stop trying to shift this in a way as if it is MY fault for trying to make you accountable as per your own rules. [[User:Jirby|Jirby]] 18:49, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Jirby, your above rant illustrates my point.  I'm moving on and request that you be substantive and concise in the future.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:53, 9 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;Published Criticism&amp;quot; section repeats, aside from a couple of sentances, almost word for word the introduction. This needs changing as it looks silly to have repetitions so I am going to leave this comment to see if there is any response and wait 48 hours and then go to work on fixing it. [[User:ClarkeD|ClarkeD]] 21:17, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Fine, but don't remove information from the introduction.  Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:18, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I'll only remove the double-ups from the lower section. Thanks for the quick response! [[User:ClarkeD|ClarkeD]] 21:20, 8 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Was just trying to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Barack_Obama&amp;amp;diff=512956&amp;amp;oldid=512942 fix my spelling error], not trying to revert Andy. --[[User:GunsandaBible|GunsandaBible]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==&amp;quot;My Muslim Faith&amp;quot; quote==&lt;br /&gt;
I've seen the video of this quote and it is taken totally out of context. What Obama is saying is that JOhn McCain has not accused him of being a secret muslim. Does anyone really believe that this is Obama mistakenly revealing that he is a muslim? Anyone who has seen the video can't seriously believe that this is the case. This quote should be removed before people start taking it seriously. [[User:Billgates3|Billgates3]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Can someone explain why you think it would be such a big deal if Barack Obama were actually Muslim? (Leaving aside for the moment the lack of any evidence that he ever has been a Muslim.) I thought you guys in the USA believed in separation of religion and the state, so why does it matter what religion, if any, the President happens to follow? [[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 20:13, 13 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: As a Democrat who will be voting for Obama, I think (and I really hope that this is the general consensus) that the main issue would be that he's lied.  I'd like to think that somebody saying up front that they were a Muslim wouldn't be a reason to vote against them if they're wholly qualified otherwise, but IF it turns out that somebody can prove that he really is a Muslim (I highly doubt anything like that can turn up, since everything out there now is just gossip), then he'll be caught in a BIG lie that would kill his credibility with everything. [[User:Mk|Mk]] 15:12, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why on earth are CP people bothered about the fact that Obama had holidays for Muslim festivals when he went to school in a Muslim country? Muslim (and Sikh, Hindu, Buddhist, Jewish and Zoroastrian) children take days off school for Christian holidays in the UK without society collapsing. Honestly, some of the stuff on this page is just weird. Why on earth don't you guys concentrate on his policies (or lack of any) instead of getting so worked up about personal matters which are complete non-issues? [[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 19:27, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is a matter of honesty which Obama will not address. America has never elected somebody with such a secret history as Barack hides from. Criticize CP all you want, I don't expect you to last here that long.  -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 21:12, 14 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Err... why not, exactly? What's the problem with suggesting that politically-active people in the USA should concentrate on politics, not on minor details (or utterly trivial ones, in this case) of a candidate's personal life? [[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 12:54, 15 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Unreliable sourcing and references ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The section on Obama's &amp;quot;secrecy&amp;quot; cites only a blog which gives no sources. Unless there are complaints or offers to better source it, I will remove this section or shorten it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The section on Obama's middle name is also poorly sourced. It is claimed that &amp;quot;most&amp;quot; people change their names when they undergo a religious conversion. The cite refers to two people who converted to Christianity and then changed their names. &amp;quot;For example&amp;quot; can never be used to prove &amp;quot;most&amp;quot;. Unless someone offers a statistic backing up the &amp;quot;most&amp;quot; claim, I will change it to &amp;quot;some&amp;quot;. Additionally, the citation given for the meaning of &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; is to a names list on about.com. There is no way this can be considered authoritative, and in any case the alternate meaning (&amp;quot;handsome&amp;quot;) should also be reported lest we be accused of fearmongering.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, I fail to see how &amp;quot;there are few atheists in Kenya&amp;quot; could possibly be seen as an argument against Obama's father being nonreligious. There are also few admirals in the US; does this mean McCain's father wasn't an admiral?  [[User:Egen|Egen]] 15:22, 19 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Seeing no objection on the talk page or attempts to correct the faulty information during the last 24 hours or so, I've gone ahead and made the edits. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 15:39, 20 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Sorry, wholesale deletion of content, some which has been discussed on the talk page, is inappropriate at your rank of contributions.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 15:48, 20 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Surprise, surprise.  Everything Egen deleted was either unsourced or irrelevant.--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 19:29, 20 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This &amp;quot;content&amp;quot; is worthless and factually inaccurate in a way that's absolutely obvious to anyone reading it. The page is already too long and having such nonsense on the page is a severe detriment to our credibility. No one even attempted to respond to my reasoning and I gave ample time to allow disagreements. If ANYONE can provide reliable evidence that &amp;quot;most&amp;quot; people change their name when they convert, that Obama's father was not an atheist, and that Hussein means &amp;quot;descendent of the prophet Muhammad&amp;quot; (a baby names site is not reliable evidence) then please do so. (The last statement is, in fact, false. In Arabic, you would never simply refer to any descendant of Muhammad as &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot;. &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; does not mean &amp;quot;descendant of Muhammad&amp;quot; any more than James means &amp;quot;brother of Jesus.&amp;quot;) [[User:Egen|Egen]] 19:26, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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HelpJazz, the stat is no good. It is an attempt at obfusication, it's  not 1 billion, it is only 18%, gee. -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 23:54, 21 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Uh, it say right in the article &amp;quot;$936 million&amp;quot;. The 18% figure only adds to the figure, it takes away nothing. Obama has a lifetime score of 18%, which is far below failing and far below the Republican average. Plus, if you really thought that the 18% figure was obsfucation (which, I'll reiterate, doesn't make any sense) then why did you take away the scale, which gives meaning to the number? If I said that Barack Obama scored a 397 on a liberalness test, you would want to know what that score means, no? And you would want to know how he compares to other liberals, right? You wouldn't say &amp;quot;he scored 397 on a liberalness test -- that's just under 400!&amp;quot; because that doesn't add anything to the article. Your &amp;quot;500k/day&amp;quot; stat ''does'' add to the article. Even though there's nothing to compare it to, it's still a nice number that hits home how big almost a billion is. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 17:44, 22 September 2008 (EDT) PS: Sorry to keep you waiting, editing cut off early last night, and wasn't on this morning before I went to work.&lt;br /&gt;
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I know this has been talked about a lot here, but i would like for someone to prove to me byond a reasonable doubt that Obama is a muslim. Otherwise, i don't think we should have him in the 'muslims' category. so, can someone provide irrefutable proof that Barack Obama is a practicing muslim?&lt;br /&gt;
:Reasonable doubt is enough, or no article would have categories. [[User:Devout|Devout]] 15:16, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::based on that logic i could say McCain is ineligible to be US President due to his birth in the Panama Canal Zone due to the US returning it. [[User:Xapdal5|Xapdal5]] 23:08, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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My parents and pastor always taught me not to lie, so when I heard there was a website that dealt more fairly with intelligent design and creationism than most, I wanted to check it out. I was quite upset to find a site filled with such dishonesty, double-standards, and vitriol. I don't recall that part of my bible that says 'don't lie unless it's about someone of the rival political party.' [[User:Booster|Booster]] 17:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Booster, you are not looking at this issue properly. It is not a matter of party.  Obama is a Muslim. The United States is, by tradition, a Christin nation. As Devout notes, there is enough reasonable doubt that no true Christian can vote for him.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 17:56, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But he's NOT a Muslim. Misspeaking once or twice doesn't make you a Muslim. Not wearing a flag-pin doesn't make you a Muslim. A funny name doesn't make you a Muslim. My middle name is Caesar and I don't worship Zeus. If the man was a Muslim, there would be real evidence, unless we contend that he hides under the blanket at night and reads the Koran by flashlight. I'm not going to vote for the man because I fundamentally disagree with many of his policies, not because of untruths posted about his religion. [[User:Booster|Booster]] 22:29, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::You say he's a Muslim?  Heck, I don't know about the rest of you guys, but that's all the proof I need!--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 18:02, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am proud muslim but not from united states. Obama is very good but not muslim. That is ok. Also, I read article and it say that Obama not change his name. Around me, muslims convert to jesus but do not change their names. I will change article if that is ok. [[User:SyedO|SyedO]] 18:06, 23 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The issue is that the United States is a Christian Nation.  We are one nation under God, not mohammad or allah.  That probably offends liberals, but it's the truth. [[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not that it matters, because Obama is not a Muslim unless anyone can provide any actual evidence to suggest that he is. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 16:32, 25 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The US is not a Christian nation. It clearly states in the constitution that church and state are separate. while there might be christian influences it does not mean we are a christian nation. [[User:Xapdal5|Xapdal5]] 23:14, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I have yet to see conclusive evidense that he is a muslim. i am removing him from that category.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Perhaps we should have a category called &amp;quot;Suspected Muslims&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Crypto-Muslims&amp;quot;? --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:25, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Does it mean he may have been born somewhere else,&amp;quot; or that &amp;quot;his live birth is contested?&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Is it supposed to mean he may have been hatched?&amp;quot; Then he'd be evolved, right libs? Some people on here are so dumb it frightening. [[User:LarryHapp|LarryHapp]] 15:42, 25 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Allegations of Homosexuality &amp;amp; Drug Use ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm surprised that this article did not mention the compelling allegations of homosexuality and drug-abuse. One witness (a former homosexual called Larry Sinclair) confessed in great detail an event in which he consumed cocaine and performed oral-sex on Obama (this was a few years before he became a senator). &lt;br /&gt;
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Despite being repeatedly asked to deny or even comment about these allegations Team-Obama has remained utterly silent. Surely (as Mr. Sinclair stated) - if somebody made an allegation which was incorrect you'd deny it or at least tell your side of the story. Obama's silence on this issue (as so many others) is worthy of suspicion. With the permission of my fellow Conservapedia users I'd like to add a summaary of these alegations to the article. --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:12, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:He's already admitted to cocaine use in one of his books (''Dreams from my Father'', I think.)--[[User:Frey|Frey]] 22:15, 26 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Any nutball can allege anything.  Some things are below notice. [[User:CraigC|CraigC]] 08:34, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That is true, however Larry Sinclair has been vetted by a great many conservative journalists. His story has yet to be disproven, and furthermore he has come under a great deal of attack by Joe Biden's people. Given that Sinclair's story is merely corroborating something that Obama has already admitted, why exclude it from what ought to be an authoritative article? Obama supporters have called Sinclar a nut (and much worse), but none of them have disproven his allegations? Ask yourself - why is it that Obama has not attempted to disprove that he had a homosexual liason and took crack-cocaine with Mr. Sinclair that night? His silence on the topic does not make any sense. --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 08:40, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I agree, not everybody bothers to deny everything, for example if I accused you of being an &amp;quot;alien from outer-space&amp;quot; or something entirely preposterous then you might be right to disregard my comments. On the other hand Sinclair has only accused Obama of things which he has partly confessed to. Regarding drug-taking, Obama confessed that he had tried drugs as a young man but had given up. Sinclair contends that he witnessed Obama using drugs relatively recently. &lt;br /&gt;
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:: Your point would be entirely relevant to this case if the Obama people were simply ignoring Sinclair, however as anybody who has watched this story unfold can see Obama's people have done anything but ignore Sinclair. In fact, he was the victim of a very organized campaign to discredit him. Biden's people arranged for him to be arrested during one of his press conferences (you can see it on Youtube if you do not believe me). &lt;br /&gt;
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:: This article has presented a great deal of evidence that Mr. Obama can be sneaky and deceptive. We know that America harbors a great deal of drug-users and homosexuals. Why do you believe that somebody who faked a legal document (like a Birth Certificate) might be incapable of other acts of immorality? --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:21, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather than simply state that he was allegedly born in a state of the USA, how about we outline the various conflicting theories regarding his place of birth, the primary evidence of each of those theories and the principle backers of each of those theories. That way we can be fair and balanced with regards to this issue? --[[User:Jimmygoddard|Jimmygoddard]] 20:30, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot;????? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's this nonsense on the News section of the Main Page about a '''Muslim''' pronounciation of Pakistan as 'Pokiston'? For one thing, there's no such thing as a Muslim pronounciation of anything - a Muslim from Glasgow sounds Scottish, a Muslim from Madras sounds South Indian. For another, the Pakistani pronounciation of Pakistan is 'Paakistaan' - long aa's (aaah). Please delete this item from the News - it just makes CP look silly. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 20:51, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't think what you said is true.  Arabic is the language of the Koran, having a Muslim pronunciations, and &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; is a word created by Muslims, having a Muslim pronunciation.  There is Muslim pronunciation used by Obama and a very different English pronunciation used by most Americans.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:57, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: The pronounciation of the word as used in India and Pakistan - by Hindus, Muslims, Christians and everyone else - is Paakistaan. That would also be an transliteration of the word into English. It's now also much the most common pronounciation in the UK; before about 1970 in the UK, both &amp;quot;a&amp;quot;s were pronounced as the short, semi-closed &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; as in cat, hat, fat, etc, but it's changed to become closer to the Indian/Pakistani pronounciation. I daresay the &amp;quot;cat/hat/fat&amp;quot; vowel sound might still be used &amp;quot;by most Americans&amp;quot; (to quote you) but that isn't the usage in India, Pakistan or the UK. I have no idea how Obama says Pakistan but there's no more a Muslim pronounciation of the word than there is a Hindu or Christian one. In any case, Pakistan is an Urdu word, not an Arabic one. It makes no more sense to say that 'Pakistan' is an Arabic word than to say that 'automobile' is a Greek word. And finally, why does this matter to you? [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 20:32, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Andy- just because Arabic is the language of the Koran, that doesn't mean that there is such a thing as &amp;quot;Muslim pronounciations.&amp;quot; In this last statement, you've conflated religion (&amp;quot;Muslim pronounciation&amp;quot;), linguistic groups (&amp;quot;Arabic&amp;quot;) and nationalities (&amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;English pronounciation used by most Americans.&amp;quot;) They are all different, and all complex. A French-speaking Algerian isn't going to pronounce &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; the same way as an Arabic-speaking Sudanese or an Indonesian. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:03, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, right, an American doesn't pronounce Pakistan the way that Muslims educated in Indonesia do, which underscores the point.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:14, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: But isn't Obama an American? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 16:15, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::He ''claims'' to be. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:20, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I know LOTS of Americans who use the pronounciation in question. And Brits, too. Look at it this way: if the link between the language of the Koran and the billion or so Muslims scattered across the globe means that there is such a thing as &amp;quot;Muslim pronounciation,&amp;quot; does that mean that the world's Christians--Swedes, Phillipinos, Americans, Candians, Irish, Brazilians, French, Germans, all share &amp;quot;Christian pronounciations&amp;quot; that can be traced back to Hebrew, Aramaic and ancient Greek? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:18, 27 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Quite correct, AliceBG. A Christian from South India doesn't sounds like a Christian from Scotland and a Muslim from Scotland doesn't sound like a Muslim from South India. Putting stuff like this &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; issue on CP's front page gives the impression that Aschafly and his colleagues have no serious issues with which to attack Obama and are forced to resort to personal trivia of the silliest kind. I really don't understand why Aschafly &amp;amp; friends don't focus on the politics. This is very peculiar to people outside the USA. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 14:34, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberals protest here too much to the observation that Obama uses the Muslim pronunciation of Pakistan rather than the virtually universal American pronunciation.  But nothing in the liberal protests explains the clear difference in a satisfactory manner.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:40, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Actually, many of the protests have pointed out clearly that your assertion is based on a mistaken conflation between religion and linguistic groups, have pointed to the fact that Muslims from different language groups pronounce words differently, and have pointed out that the notion of &amp;quot;Christian pronounciation&amp;quot; would obviously be an impossible phenomenon to talk about. i'd repeat myself, but I'd rather go back to improving your encyclopedia for you. Asalaam Aleikum.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 20:47, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aschafly, why is pointing out an instance where CP is talking nonsense 'liberal'? [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 16:14, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just ridiculous. What is a &amp;quot;Muslim pronunciation?&amp;quot; Muslims everywhere pronounce words and names differently. If anything, an &amp;quot;Arabic pronunciation&amp;quot; might exist, but that is debatable. And don't give me the crap about that because Arabic is the language of the Koran, everyone who uses an Arabic pronunciation is Muslim. Arab Christians around the world speak Arabic. Plus, Arabic was being spoken way before Islam cam around. The name of the country should be pronounced the way it actually sounds, as dictated by the natives. Iraq is not &amp;quot;eye-rack,&amp;quot; it is pronounced Irok. The fact that Obama pronounces Pakistan properly just shows that he is attentive to the culture and language of the country, (a key ally that we are in danger of losing, by the way), not that he is a Muslim. Even if there were some kind of valid point in the &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; argument, which there is most definitely not, it would be minuscule considering the broader scale of things. This whole section has just got to go.&lt;br /&gt;
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: You protest too much.  There is a common American pronunciation of &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot;, but Obama uses the different pronunciation he either learned while attending a Muslim grade school, or heard from his closest advisers over the past 20 years.  It's informative to point that out, whether you think he's &amp;quot;correct&amp;quot; or not.  Pronunciations can be illustrative of one's culture and beliefs.  It suggests the pronunciation used by one's teachers and advisers.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:37, 3 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Notice that you didn't address any of the actual points I made. I say &amp;quot;Pokistan.&amp;quot; I avoid saying &amp;quot;eye-rack.&amp;quot; Am I a Muslim? And what is an &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; pronunciation? As far as I know, there is no &amp;quot;American&amp;quot; way of saying anything. Do you mean an English pronunciation? I am simply baffled by some of the things people say on this site.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree with what's been said above : &amp;quot;Pokistan&amp;quot; is not an exclusively &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; pronunciation (if there's such a thing...). The article would be much stronger without this unnecessary point : don't we have enough evidence of Obama's faith?&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a long article with a large variety of sub-topics. I've inserted a half-dozen section headings that improve readability and organization. While it might be a good idea to think about re-organizing the sections and moving particular facts into different sections, I really think the piece needs to be broken up like this--plus it makes it more effective, acting as a catalogue of important questions and criticisms.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 22:51, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The greatest insights are going on the first screen page, period.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:58, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fine--why undo the section headings, then? [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 22:59, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think I see the problem - when a section heading is inserted higher up, the contents block, which is rather large, takes up most of the first screen.  However, if you hit the &amp;quot;hide&amp;quot; button on the contents block, it takes up very little space and the insights are on the first screen page.  It seems to be a &amp;quot;sticky&amp;quot; hide also, as it continues to be hidden when I re-load the page.  I hope this helps.  Like [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]], I'm just attempting to improve readability by inserting section headings.  I do not want to remove any insights, or hide any.  I believe section headings actually make it easier for the reader to glance over the many areas of concern (in the contents block), and go quickly to their area of interest, whilst still remaining aware of the other topics presented. They will also help editors to put their information in the correct section, thus minimizing problems with redundant information and making the whole article easier to read. (Right now, some of it kind of jumps around.)  I am also open to other solutions to the problems that a long article presents. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 23:14, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh, i see the problem too. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:15, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A lot of the stuff under the &amp;quot;Islam&amp;quot; section heading has nothing to do with Islam, but Schlafly won't let anyone put it in a reasonable order. Good luck with that. [[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:07, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Told you. He won't listen.[[User:AliceBG|AliceBG]] 23:09, 28 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::There should be a way to solve this. You can force the TOC to not show up and then manually add it some where else. I can't remember how to do it off the top of my head, but I'll see if I can poke around and remember how. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:43, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Ok, as dirty as I feel for putting &amp;quot;his muslim faith&amp;quot; higher up than his birth, hopefully this should solve the problem. Now the Muslim insights are on the first page, and they are sectioned off for better flow. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 12:54, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I fail to see how Obama's pronunciation of &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; has anything to do with his religion. And I don't care that he didn't change his middle name. Maybe he does have muslim beliefs, but these things would have nothing to do with it. There has to be fewer illogical statements here to be respectable; I thought the point of this page was to get away from the bias of wikipedia. Don't make conservatives look bad. Logic, facts, and history are on the conservative's side - use them.&lt;br /&gt;
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In attempting to organize the article yesterday, I came across two different sections on Obama's job at the University of Chicago.  They seem to contradict each other.  Here they are:&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He was &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer in the Law&amp;quot;, which is not a professor-level position, at the [[University of Chicago]] Law School as of 2004&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/04/041103.obama.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and is no longer active at the school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''&amp;quot;I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,&amp;quot; Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser. ... Responding to Obama's comments, Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said, &amp;quot;Senator Obama needs to understand that at this level words matter and he will be scrutinized.&amp;quot;  Ronayne pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. The University of Chicago lists him as a senior lecturer on leave.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  So in this reference, an AP story in the San Francisco Chronicle, we have evidence that Obama has indeed called himself a law professor, and a quote from an RNC spokesman saying he was not.&lt;br /&gt;
* This reference &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is to a chat board.  It mostly lists several references, including the article above and the University of Chicago's ''Statement Regarding Barack Obama''.&lt;br /&gt;
* The next two references are repeats of the first two.&lt;br /&gt;
* The next is the University of Chicago's ''Statement Regarding Barack Obama''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It states:  ''The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;  From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.''  It seems that he was an adjunct from '92 to '96, but after that, as a Senior Lecturer, he was considered a professor.&lt;br /&gt;
* The next reference is a news article on UChicago's site from '04.  It uses the title of Senior Lecturer to describe Obama, which confirms that he was indeed at that time a Senior Lecturer.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/04/041103.obama.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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All of the references seem to agree that Obama was a Senior Lecturer, and that he was not full-time.  The RNC spokesman said that Obama was &amp;quot;only a Senior Lecturer and not a full professor&amp;quot;.  UofC said &amp;quot;Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track&amp;quot;.  I think we should sum all this up by including something along the lines of the following:&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Great-uncle ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please could someone explain why it matters that Obama's great-uncle liberated Buchenwald rather than Auschwitz? [Stuff not about B.O. deleted] Really, fellow CP people, sometimes you have to stop nit-picking and get a life. Surely there are political issues you can attack the man on? Why are you fussing about precisely which Nazi concentration camp his great-uncle helped to liberate. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 18:25, 29 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It not that he was wrong about his uncle, its that he used it as a politics tool.  Like how he says about 57 states.  He doesnt think or research about what he says.  Do we want a president that makes that many slips?  [[User:Patriot1505|Patriot1505]]  &lt;br /&gt;
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::: Well, I'd say he isn't the first American politician (or British one, come to that) not to be 100% careful about what he says on every single occasion. How about your ''current'' President?! [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 18:33, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: The problem is one of honesty, not harmless slips.  The gaffes reveal a real Obama that is being denied by himself and his supporters.  Obama's gaffes are analogous to a racist gaffe, which of course no liberal would ignore if uttered by an opponent.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:36, 30 September 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: My head is spinning... Thanks, anyway, for not putting that particularly unpleasant slur back on your page about B.O. [[User:WaZi|WaZi]] 16:17, 1 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ironic that a Republican would talk about Presidents and candidates making slips: THEY'RE HUMAN BEINGS...AND HUMANS ARE FALLIBLE.  This is a Christian Conservative website, right?  It would seem that exposing one's fallibilities and imperfections is tantamount to honoring God; the only being that can be perfect.  At any rate, we all derive our understanding of how people and politicians should be in public from TV and various other forms of media...that is the root of our problem.  If you've ever seen the show Boston Legal, you know exactly what I'm talking about.  James Spader delivers perfect, articulate closings that highlight his opponent's downfalls whilst bolstering his own correctness.  I bet even Andy Schlafly, with all due respect, stuttered over a closing here and there just the same as Barack Obama says 58 when he meant the 48 contiguous states.  I seem to recall we got more gaffes than we could handle over the course of the last eight years due to the inarticulate nature of one &amp;quot;W&amp;quot;.  Of course, various CP administrators will sweep it under the rug and say these gaffes were taken out of context by the evil liberals who hate God and report to Lord Zargax on Planet Fallujah 9 without even considering the possibility that perhaps they take things out of context, as well.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Andy, I must contest your notion that all Bush &amp;quot;gaffes&amp;quot; were harmless slips.  While said statement accomplishes what you're going for--a good/harmless versus evil/harmful dichotomy set up between Bush and Obama--it is anachronistic.  As governor of Texas, Bush clearly stated that he was against imposing America's ideologies and political structure upon other countries, yet as a President, he incited a war that was defined in the most grey manner possible (War on Terror) in which we sought an enemy that existed in a place nobody could prove he was hiding out.  Once that didn't pan out and the Bush administration realized their gaffe, the very same war underwent a little cosmetic surgery in the form of name change and became &amp;quot;Operation: Iraqi Freedom&amp;quot; or some such drivel.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This brings me to how this website stands on the premise of truth.  The problem with truth is that it is not a collective entity--the truth means many things for different people.  Abortion is viewed as wrong by some and right by others just the same as a 70 degree day is considered hot by a Vermonter and cold by a Floridian.  You can't impose the same truth on everybody because one man's truth is another man's lie. [[User:Acwellman|Acwellman]] 12:21, 14 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Birth certificate edit==&lt;br /&gt;
The word &amp;quot;alleged&amp;quot; will stay for now, and here's why: the reference used for the certificate links to a pic of what is claimed to be Obama's, which is not the original.  What is there is what could be called a &amp;quot;certified official copy&amp;quot; from the Department of Vital Statistics in Hawaii, which means that someone went to the filed originals and started typing on the copy sheet what he/she saw.  Since there is a little war brewing over whether or not Obama was actualy born there, I think it's reasonable to ask for A) a copy of what a Hawaiian birth certificate looked like in 1960; and B) a Xerox copy of Obama's birth certificate as it appears in the files, and NOT as the certified copy that we are seeing now.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 23:04, 1 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm going to revert my stance on it.  Certain federal laws state that if a person is born to an American citizen in another country, that baby is an American citizen as well (there is such a document as a State Department birth certificate).  Unless it is proven that the Hawaiian birth certificate is a fake, I think this website should just say that he was born there and leave it at that.  It's just not much of an issue when there are more serious ones to concentrate on (Bill Ayers, ACORN, his Marxism, etc).  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:11, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== sex ed for kindergartners? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do I keep hearing about Obama wanting sex ed for kindergartners? It is appalling to think that the next president of the united states might actually teach sex education to 5 year old's.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Disgusted Conservative ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've voted Republican in every election since 1960, but I'm absolutely disgusted by this page.&lt;br /&gt;
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What happened to the dignity of our party under Goldwater and Reagan? This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; page is just one long rant. &lt;br /&gt;
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Are there any real conservatives out there willing to present objective, factual criticism of Obama? God knows there are enough valid arguments to make. Why are we channeling Michael Savage rather than William Buckley? Currently this page makes me cry for my party.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sounds like disgusted conservative is voting for BO. I happen to think it is an accurate account of a man that is dishonest. Where will you get the real picture about about if not here? Are you disgusted by Wikipedias article? How about the coverage on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, PBS, LATimes, WaPo, NYT, Google, The Guardian. Why not be mad and except that the majority of America is being fooled? Why not be mad at someone as disgusting as BO, actually has a real chance to take the Presidency and doesn't deserve it IN THE LEAST? Reagan is rolling over in his grave and so all the Founders.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:54, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Voting Republican again this year. I know you're mad about what's going on, but it shows throughout the page. An encyclopedia can't be written from an angry point of view. Let me be specific:&lt;br /&gt;
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1) &amp;quot;Obama and Elitism&amp;quot; plus &amp;quot;Obama and Islam&amp;quot; are not valid main introductory sections. Start with his early life.&lt;br /&gt;
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2) His birth certificate gets its own section but his healthcare and tax plans don't? Focus on what's really important.&lt;br /&gt;
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3) The &amp;quot;Insights&amp;quot; section is just a list of criticisms and belongs under a &amp;quot;Criticism&amp;quot; section. Categorize corectly.&lt;br /&gt;
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4) Off-topic side-swipes: &amp;quot;He became a member of the Harvard Law Review, which uses racial quotas, in 1989&amp;quot;. Why is &amp;quot;which uses racial quotas&amp;quot; in there? If it was a reason that he was chosen, say that. If it wasn't leave it out.&lt;br /&gt;
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5) Unsubstantiated claims: &amp;quot;Obama's campaign has been financed largely by leftist donors opposed to the war and to the American military in general.&amp;quot; Citation definitely needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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You have several good sections in here: &amp;quot;Senate career&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Foreign policy experience&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Published criticism&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Religious affiliations&amp;quot;. These are high-quality and reflect well on Conservapedia. The others do not.&lt;br /&gt;
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See the reply from hsmom below as the kind of constructive, factual accuracy this page needs.&lt;br /&gt;
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::This sounds like you're standard liberal bellyaching.  The fact is that no real conservative Christian can vote for this man.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::??!?! Trying to hold this article to some kind of standard is bellyaching? Would you like to address any of my points?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Your points is liberal talking points.  The fact is that Barack Hussein Obama wants to talk with Iran without predeterminations, flip flops, and is close friends to an unrepentive TERRORIST.  What more can you know?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Trying to shift the focus on an ''encyclopedia page'' about a presidential candidate from hypothetical statements (his possible Islamic faith) and trivial matters (his birth certificate), to his actual stance on the issues is liberal bellyaching? If anything, we should be casting aside these trivial circumstances as beneath us and take the time to dissect each of his stances on the actual issues. That's what a real, dignified Conservative would do. Relying on ridiculous tactics such as these is asinine and cowardly. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 16:21, 9 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Disgusted Conservative, sadly you are only wasting your time.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama's pastor of twenty-years, Rev. Wright, was originally a member with the Nation of Islam (likely always has been, see [[taqiyya]])''  Let's be careful not to confuse the Nation of Islam with the traditional Muslim faith - they are two quite different things. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:10, 7 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: What differences do you find so compelling?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:15, 18 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I don't know that I'd use the word &amp;quot;compelling&amp;quot;; I don't know a whole lot about either faith.  I do know that they're quite different.  The Nation of Islam was started in Detroit in the 1930's as something of a black empowerment/separatist movement - it's a very race-based group, from what I understand, and (in what I would consider a cult-like way) based largely on the teachings of two or three men, who are considered more-or-less prophets.  It's been portrayed in the media as very racist and anti-Semitic, though I don't know enough about it to know how accurate that is.  It's a uniquely American faith.  Traditional Islam is quite a different thing - it's been around for thousands of years.  Malcolm X, for example, became a member of NOI in prison, then, due to disillusionment brought on by NOI leader/prophet Elijah Mohamed's adultery, converted to traditional Islam.  I have assumed that when you say that you believe that Barak Obama is a Muslim, you are referring to traditional Islam, right? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 09:37, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.  Are you saying that NOI adherents do not pray and submit to Allah?  I'm sure they do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:52, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::''Perhaps you think Nation of Islam is a denomination of Islam that has slightly different motivations from other denominations, but it's still Islam.''  No, I wouldn't put it that way.  I wouldn't consider NOI to be Islam.  As I understand it, I think they are two fundamentally different faiths, though NOI has some trappings borrowed from traditional Islam, as well as some borrowed from Christianity.  NOI believes, among other things, &amp;quot;that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited &amp;quot;Messiah&amp;quot; of the Christians and the &amp;quot;Mahdi&amp;quot; of the Muslims.&amp;quot;[http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm]  As I understand it, when NOI members pray to Allah, they mean (at least in part) W. Fard Muhammad (the founder of NOI).  Wheras of course traditional Muslims don't include anything about W. Fard Muhammad in their beliefs, nor do they recognize NOI as a Muslim denomination.  (Christians don't believe W. Fard Muhammad is the Messiah either, obviously.)  NOI is a uniquely American black separatist movement.  I believe it's quite a different faith from traditional Islam.  Maybe I was wrong about assuming you think Barak Obama is a traditional Muslim?  Do you think Barak Obama is a member of the NOI?  That would lead to quite different concerns; as I understand it, the NOI wants, among other things, quite substantial reparations for slavery. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:40, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::The Nation of Islam's relationship to Christianity is similar to the relationship of Christianity to Judaism.  They use the same texts (to some extent), and have practices that are shared with and developed out of the other - but such distortions take place that one is clearly no longer the other.  It's not even about &amp;quot;not being mainstream&amp;quot;, it's about that place and time when one religion truly ceases to be it's parent religion.  You would be fully inaccurate to call a christian merely a &amp;quot;Jesus loving Jew&amp;quot;.  Christianity became its own religion in the year 30 (give or take) when our Lord died and rose for us.  For the Nation of Islam, with the Prophet Elijah claiming to be the reincarnation of Mohammad, they cease to be merely &amp;quot;Muslim&amp;quot; and become their own religion.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 11:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==57 Islamic states==&lt;br /&gt;
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I attempted to make this article better by noting, as several other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; could be a reference to Heinz ketchup or simple a misstatement (Obama had visited 47 states), as well as the fact that there were not 57 Islamic states when Obama attended an Indonesian school. It was reverted. Why? Is this an encyclopedia, or a liberal hate blog? [[User:Egen|Egen]] 10:42, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your edit was baseless, and probably politically motivated.  The entry is factual and will remain that way.  Obama has likely remained a Muslim long after attending grade school.  Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:52, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: On the subject, I think someone should add the following line to your page: &amp;quot;The odds against Aschlafly's claim to be named 'Andrew Schlafly' being truthful are less than 1 billion to one, as fewer than 6 people in the world are named Andrew Schlafly.&amp;quot; Don't put malarkey like this on a serious encyclopedia page and defend it as being &amp;quot;factual&amp;quot;. I remind you of Conservapedia Commandments 1, 2, and 5. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 11:04, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In any case, I fail to see how it is &amp;quot;baseless&amp;quot; to note, as other Conservapedia writers have, that &amp;quot;57 states&amp;quot; cannot possibly be a reference to &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; and probably has a more benign origin. It does not to any good to assert that anyone who disagrees with you probably does so because they are &amp;quot;politically motivated&amp;quot; (read: liberal) when many conservatives have expressed disdain for this point. I doubt that the majority of Conservapedia editors would disagree with my edit. This encyclopedia is not a personal blog for you or for anyone else. Therefore, I am reinserting the edit. If anyone can provide proof that Obama was referring to the &amp;quot;57 Islamic states&amp;quot; which did not exist when he was growing up '''and''' provide proof that that is what he was referring to, I'll retract this. [[User:Egen|Egen]] 12:16, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Egen - I entirely agree with you. A lot of people here think this is a redstate comments thread rather than, as it says in the top left corner, &amp;quot;the trustworthy encyclopedia&amp;quot;. Snopes on this one: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/57states.asp&lt;br /&gt;
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==Biased==&lt;br /&gt;
Isn't this site supposed to be unbaised?-[[User:Red4tribe|Red4tribe]] 16:46, 8 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;born, allegedly, in Honolulu&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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there's no doubt he was ''born''. that should read &amp;quot;allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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God bless. [[User:JohnBarma|JohnBarma]] 13:30, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As the previous poster said, &amp;quot;(born, allegedly, in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;, implies that he may not have been born, which I think is not what is intended.  &amp;quot;Allegedly born in Honolulu&amp;quot; has the same problem.  Putting aside whether or not the &amp;quot;allegedly&amp;quot; is silly (and frankly I think the factcheck.org folks debunked this one), if you want to convey the idea that he was born, but may have been born somewhere other than Hawaii, then it should read &amp;quot;(born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961)&amp;quot;.  Comma placement matters. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 20:58, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday. We suggest that those who choose to go down that path should first equip themselves with a high-quality tinfoil hat. The evidence is clear: Barack Obama was born in the U.S.A.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''Of course, it's distantly possible that Obama's grandparents may have planted the announcement just in case their grandson needed to prove his U.S. citizenship in order to run for president someday'' What foolishness! As if the ability to run for President is the sole benefit to be derived from US citizenship! That his grandparents planted the announcement is entirely credible. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 14:30, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:What we need to see to settle this controversy is the actual birth certificate; not a copy of it, and not someone's written opinion.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:47, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Favorite black leader ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've just finished reading Dreams from My Father. I don't recommend it. But one thing I missed was a reference to Malcolm X being Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot;. He speaks highly of Malcolm X's autobiography, but doesn't like the &amp;quot;religious baggage&amp;quot; that the guy &amp;quot;discarded in later life&amp;quot;. Is the reference here correct? [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 17:10, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Search Google on {&amp;quot;Malcolm X&amp;quot; Obama favorite} and you'll find numerous credible confirmations of the statement about Malcolm X being Obama's favorite black leader.  The entry need not be limited to the silly Dreams book.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:03, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Not really seeing it. Various claims Obama loves Malcolm X's autobiography (which, subject to the point above, seems correct), but the claims that he is Obama's &amp;quot;favorite black leader&amp;quot; all cite no reference, or cite Dreams - I think incorrectly. Is there a source for Obama having said or written this? If not, it should go. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 18:12, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I agree that it should be sourced, preferably with a quote from his book or one of his speeches, otherwise it could be mistaken for an untrue rumor.  If he qualified the statement with something about X's religion, as Marcdaniels noted above, that should be included in the quote.  I looked for a credible source, but couldn't find one.  I have added a fact tag, which can be removed when a suitable citation is found. (Let's not forget that Malcolm X was involved with the Nation of Islam, which is quite a different thing than traditional Islam.  He rejected the Nation of Islam later in life.)--[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 21:13, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Examples supporting the statement are easy to find.  I just added one.  I don't think anyone seriously doubts the truth of the statement.  Feel free to find and add other citations supporting it.  The discomfort expressed above seems to be with the fact itself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 10 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Your source goes back to the book, which I'd thought we'd both agreed wasn't on point. It's entirely plausible that Obama might regard Malcolm X as his favorite black leader, and that would discomfort me in the slightest, but I'm having real difficulty finding any evidence that he has said or written this. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 07:40, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: No, you've misread me now.  I did not agree that book wasn't on point.  I did say there is further evidence beyond the book, which is easy to find on the internet.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: The quote from the book is convincing enough.  If you won't accept it, then I doubt you would accept anything now.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:20, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: I am now a little confused, and I'm not sure why you are getting personal. You suggested there were additional sources for the claim on the internet, other than those referring to the book, but I cannot find one. I may be missing something obvious - would be helpful if you could provide a link. The book shows Malcolm X's autobiography to have been Obama's favourite autobiography, and it would be accurate to say that, but anything further seems supposition rather than fact. [[User:Marcdaniels|Marcdaniels]] 11:35, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;if elected, Obama will become the first black, and possibly Muslim, President of the United States.&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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What's the problem with this sentence in place of the one currently there? For starters, it isn't proven that he's Muslim, but it ''is'' proven that he's black, so certainly it should be mentioned over the hypothetical. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:25, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The racial composition of all the past presidents is not completely known, so I doubt it's appropriate to insist that Obama would be the '''first''' black President.  Also, the racial composition of a man is not as important as his beliefs.  It is known that none of the prior presidents were Muslim.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:54, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well said, Aschlafly.  It is the content of a person's character that should determine how we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot; them.  Although, who are we to judge?  I suspect, however, looking at the photos, that Senator Obama would at least be the first President (if elected) with a clear [[African American]] heritage.  Whether a few others may have had a lineage leading back to Africa in their family tree is another, albeit interesting, question. [[User:Human|Human]] 23:16, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's an interesting argument. If we know so little about the former presidents that we cannot say whether any of them met society's contemporaneous definition of Black - the one-drop rule, for example - then how can we say than none of them were Muslim? If they could keep their African ancestry secret, why not their true religion? Is there evidence of political opponents accusing a candidate of being of mixed-blood ancestry?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 23:21, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: When people vote, they are called to judge.  So the liberal canard of &amp;quot;judge not&amp;quot; is a useless argument here.  What will voters judge on?  More important than race is the views and beliefs of the candidates.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: As to whether past presidents were Muslims, simply look at what they did and said ... including before they became politically ambitious.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 23:33, 11 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course we &amp;quot;judge&amp;quot;, or at least &amp;quot;decide&amp;quot; when we vote.  However, when did &amp;quot;judge not... [lest ye be judged]&amp;quot; become a &amp;quot;liberal canard&amp;quot;?  I thought it was a warning in the Bible not to overstep our bounds?  Voting, of course, does not overstep them - we pencil in a space, or pull a lever.  That is not &amp;quot;judgment&amp;quot;, it is an expression of personal opinion or preference or ideas.  Moving beyond that simple step, however, leads us into judgment territory, potentially.  When we should be humble and add commentary on ourselves as well as those we judge is an issue of personal ethics - or morality.  A good time to sit down with good words and contemplate. [[User:Human|Human]] 01:22, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like someone to please explain to me how this is unbais? At least with the article you can try to make something up saying how its unbais but the main picture is trying to show very obviouisly that Obama is unpatriotic... If you look at McCains page or Palins the picture of professionally done. Please someone give me a reasonable answer [[User talk:Horriblesite]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Funny you should comment. Is it Conservapedia making Obama unpatriotic or is it Obama who IS unpatriotic? I will say the latter.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, &amp;quot;unbais&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;professionally done&amp;quot; are Liberal canards. --[[User:FrankincenseMonster|FrankincenseMonster]] 21:56, 12 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taqiyya &amp;amp; takeyya ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Are these the same thing? [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 15:34, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The thing that bothers me about Obama is the comments attributed to his wife. 1. That it was the first time she was proud of america and 2.That black children had no future in america. Both she and her husband are examples of how well a black child can do so its hard to understand why she has that view. [[User:Markr|Markr]] 16:38, 16 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::See similar comments from John McCain: http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2008/06/mccain-it-can-be-%E2%80%9Ctough%E2%80%9D-to-be-proud-of-usa/   “I’ll admit to you … that it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said when asked by a questioner at a town hall meeting how to be proud of the country. “We have not always done things right and we mismanaged the war in Iraq very badly for nearly four years.”&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect this very obvious fake photo (look at how small the two women are compared to the chairs behind them, check out the flag's edges itself and what exactly is holding it up) was placed here by people hoping to discredit Conservapedia. I understand a popular activity among liberals and vandals is to insert things seeming to support Conservative and Christian values, but that are either extreme or fake, and so undermine the encyclopedia as a whole.--[[User:TruthOfChrist|TruthOfChrist]] 11:11, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It isn't fake.  Many other photos of this occasion exist.  Video, too.  The goofy-looking perspective is an artifact of the angle and lens used. --[[User:XavierJ|XavierJ]] 12:29, 17 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Answer: http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp {{unsigned|Littleriverr}}&lt;br /&gt;
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- The first sentence says Obama was born in Hawaii.  At first I was under the impression that someone decided to act in a competent manner and remove the baseless innuendo about his place of birth.  Alas I was mistaken because later in the article the word 'alleged' is still used.  I thought all reasonable people would presume that a document from the State of Hawaii would suffice to prove one's citizenship instead of using the rants of the lunatic fringe.&lt;br /&gt;
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: A lawsuit has been filed by someone seeking the real birth certificate.  Complain to him, and explain why it still apparently has not been produced.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The state of Hawaii is not just going to let anybody get a copy of Obama's birth certificate, let alone his original.  I can't even get my hands on my own original birth certificate and I'll bet neither can you.  A certified copy of Obama's birth certificate has been provided for anyone to look at.  If this copy is good enough for our government officials that are not part of the lunatic fringe, then why isn't it good enough for Conservapedia?  I'd like to think Conservapedia is not aligning itself with the likes of the people filing these nonsense lawsuits.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama only attended religious schools until he reached the age of ten (Islamic and Catholic).  The rest of his education from Punahou School, Occidental College, Columbia University, and Harvard was nonsectarian.  Clearly the vast majority of his education was non-religious. [[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Obama's formative years were spend being indoctrinated in Islam.  Less than 1% convert to Christianity after that experience.  Enough said.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was never under the impression that a person's formative years stopped at the age of ten.  According to you, Obama shouldn't be a liberal because he attended conservative religious schools during his alleged formative years, 6 - 10.  How is it that he is now a liberal after living another 35+ years and attending an ivy-league college?  You are also ignoring his years in a Catholic school during his time in Indonesia.  Why?  If he spent two of his formative years at a Catholic school, shouldn't he be a Catholic?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Malcom X was not THE leader of the Nation of Islam, he was A leader.  There is a distinct difference. [[http://www.finalcall.com/national/savioursday2k/hem_nation.htm]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Nitpicking here.  I'll change &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; for you.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Don't do it for me, do it for the reputation of Conservapedia.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Obama was baptized in 1988, the same year he started attending Harvard.  If there is a reference stating he was baptized prior to his political ambitions, please post it.  [[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: 1988 makes no sense, as no one ever saw any Christian behavior or church attendance by Obama at law school from 1988 to 1991.  Post his baptismal certificate.  You can't and neither can Obama.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why doesn't 1988 make any sense?  Was there a problem with my reference?  Are you able to provide reputable evidence that Obama's baptism didn't occur in 1988?  Just because a person doesn't attend church on a regular basis or hardly at all is not a reason to deny someone's baptism.  Elsewhere in this article is criticism directed at Obama's CHRISTIAN pastor of 20 years.  Either Obama is a Christian that attended a Christian church for 20 years or he is not.  If he is a Muslim, then why all the fuss about his Christian pastor of 20 years?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Just because someone reads a book allegedly 'from a Muslim point-of-view' does not mean they are actually a Muslim.  I have read parts of the book and I am not a Muslim.&lt;br /&gt;
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: It adds to the evidence.  If Obama were reading the Bible, then that would detract from the evidence.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Obama does read his Bible and has encouraged others to do so as well.  Would like a reference?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- Roosevelt communicated with America's enemies.  After the outbreak of WW II, Roosevelt was negotiating with the Japanese.  Things didn't go well and the Japanese were embargoed, thus losing most of their import capability including over 90% of their oil supplies. [[http://www.fff.org/freedom/1291c.asp]]&lt;br /&gt;
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: Your point is lacking here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::In reference to Obama saying we should talk to our enemies, the following claim was made, &amp;quot;Roosevelt spoke with none of the Axis or Japanese leaders and the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender.&amp;quot;  Roosevelt and members of his administration talked to our enemies, the reference provided by the article was written by a columnist with a distinct lack of historical credibility.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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- If Obama' likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students', then which scholarships were they?  Could a reference at least be provided?&lt;br /&gt;
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: You tell us.  Obama won't disclose who paid for his education.  He claimed he worked his way through school, but that was disproved.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why should I tell you?  The claim was made in the article without a shred of evidence to back it up.  I do happen to know that the Obama's used college loans to pay for much of their schooling and they only just recently paid them off with the proceeds from his books.  Since someone writing for Conservapedia is making the incredible claim that Obama was somehow able to acquire loans not available to most others, shouldn't a reference be provided so the claim will withstand scrutiny? --[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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- Any chance a reference could be provided for the claim concerning the flag pin?  The way it reads now makes the entry look like partisan whining.&lt;br /&gt;
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: Be clearer.  No one denies Obama avoided wearing a flag pin as he catered to the anti-war crowd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The claim, ' Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering' was made without a reference.  Any chance this opinion could be verified so the article doesn't sound like a smear?--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The general tone of the article makes it look like a partisan smear campaign, not the encyclopedic scholarly work Conservapedia alleges to produce.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 17:08, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I think your conclusion applies more to your own comments.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks for your response.--[[User:NormaN|NormaN]] 18:58, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Malcolm X and the Nation of Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
''Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.''  I think this statement needs to be tweaked a bit.  While it's true that Malcolm X was a leader in the Nation of Islam (a radical black separatist group, not to be confused with the traditional Islam faith), by the time he wrote his autobiography (as told to Alex Haley, of Roots fame), he had rejected the Nation of Islam and converted to traditional Islam.  If Obama was inspired by the book to take up Malcolm's religion (which is a stretch, IMHO, as lots of people have read this book and not become Muslims), he would most likely have chosen traditional Islam like Malcolm did.  I think it's important to make that distinction clear.  (Unless this item is intended to suggest that Obama is a member of the Nation of Islam?  If so, it should be in a different section, as it's quite a different claim.)  FWIW, Malcolm X was assassinated in 1965, four years after Obama's birth.  Also, the title of the book is ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X''.  So I suggest this item be changed to something like:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Obama has written that reading ''The Autobiography of Malcolm X'' inspired him in his youth.  Malcolm X converted to traditional Islam after leaving the radical Nation of Islam (a black separatist group).&lt;br /&gt;
:Sounds considered and precise.  Most black muslims are NOT NOI, they are in fact sunni Muslim.--[[User:JeanJacques|JeanJacques]] 20:11, 20 October 2008 &lt;br /&gt;
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== Obamas Grandmother==&lt;br /&gt;
Breaking news, Americans still forbidden to speak with Obamas grandmother. Now, we may never. Democrat Barack Obama is canceling nearly all his campaign events Thursday and Friday to fly to Hawaii to visit his suddenly ill 86-year-old grandmother.&lt;br /&gt;
Campaign spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters Monday that Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, who helped raise him, was released from the hospital late last week. But he says her health has deteriorated to the point where her situation is very serious.&lt;br /&gt;
Gibbs said Obama would return to the campaign trail on Saturday, though he was unsure where.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggesting corrections to 'atom bomb' sentance ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think it should not say &amp;quot;atom bombs&amp;quot; because this is slang expression. It should be &amp;quot;atomic bombs&amp;quot; except since 1960s it usually is said &amp;quot;nuclear bombs&amp;quot; and even then there are other weapons from bombs (missles are not bombs, then there are torpedoes and so on) so it should say &amp;quot;nuclear weapons.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally and this is just style, I do not like the '''Bold text''', it makes look rather alarming, not that we are not alarmed about this, but I think it is best to say the raw facts directly and people will know to be alarmed, instead of trying to shock people with text formatting into coming to their sense. I heard Conservapedia wants to get away from &amp;quot;that other encyclopedia&amp;quot;'s use of sensationism and tabloid style, so, maybe take off the bold. [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:28, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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other than this a very good job in the article, maybe it is too late to change direction your country is going, but at least people will know who had the facts before things all went wrong! [[User:ELeger|ELeger]] 21:30, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I appreciate your comments but don't find them compelling.  &amp;quot;Atom bombs&amp;quot; is a familiar term; whether Clinton did likewise concerning terrorists is irrelevant; and bolding is obviously helpful for emphasis.  Thanks anyway and Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:44, 20 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::While I plan to stick to the 90-10 ratio here, and this is the first comment I've made, I did want to note that I agree with Eleger about &amp;quot;Atomic Bombs&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Nuclear Weapons&amp;quot; simply on the basis of the being more accurate terms. My person phrase of choice would be Nuclear arsenal though. Maybe nitpicking, but I think fair. -EternalCritic&lt;br /&gt;
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:I came to post that too; I also have a problem with &amp;quot;first&amp;quot; part of &amp;quot;If elected, Obama would become the first person having ties to a known terrorist to gain control over America's atom bombs&amp;quot;. The most recent Democrat President was bad too. OTOH, something like &amp;quot;second person...&amp;quot; might distract from the point that Obama is a threat.&lt;br /&gt;
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== How low can you go? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this meant as an &amp;quot;How To&amp;quot; article on character assassination? Though I do find some of the 'links' in the Obama and Islam hilarious, I'd thought that the conservative parts of the US had a shred of dignity left. It appears not to be the case. But keep feeding the lies to your fellow yes-men, the rest of us are quite amused.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::We are not going low at all, You Who Did Not Leave Your Name. This entry is nothing about the truth about Barack Obama. Unfortunately, liberals like you will not find out until it is too late.--[[User:Saxplayer|Saxplayer]] 21:20, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: ''&amp;quot;the rest of us are quite amused.&amp;quot;'' I am sure the leftwingers are quite amused of the nonstop Obama media lovefest. I am sure they are also amused at the whole disenfranchisement of voting in a Democracy thanks to ACORN. I am on a conservative website and I can't find a good Obama bio, shucks billybob, I need the Obama I can believe in, let's look at MSNBC... La La La, liberal fantasy land.--'''&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#6698FF&amp;quot;&amp;gt;J&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#E41B17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;p&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#F88017&amp;quot;&amp;gt;a&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#347C17&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#A74AC7&amp;quot;&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:Jpatt|  ]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: In response to the first (unsigned) comment above, liberals enjoy deceit.  But not everyone is fooled by it, and liberals get very irritable when they see that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:57, 22 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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'''Barack Hussein Obama, II''' (born in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the 2008 nominee of the [[Democratic Party]] for [[President of the United States of America|president]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org Democratic Party website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has served as a freshman [[Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] since 2004. On August 23 he chose [[Senator Joseph Biden]] as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  If elected, Obama would likely become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]], and could use the [[Koran]] to be sworn into office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Christian Science Monitor, ''At swearing in, congressman [Keith Ellison, D Minnesota, who is a Muslim] wants to carry Koran. Outrage ensues.'', by Jane Lampman, December 07, 2006, retrieved on 10/16/2008  [http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1207/p01s03-uspo.html]&amp;quot;In Congress, newly elected representatives do not put their left hands on any book. They raise their right hands, and are sworn in together as the speaker of the House administers the oath of office. Some do carry a book, according to House historians, and some choose to photograph a private swearing-in afterward with their hand on the Bible.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama hoped to become President when he was sworn in as U.S. Senator in 2004, and did not use a Koran at that time.  Subsequently Democratic House member Keith Ellison established the precedent for being sworn in using the Koran, and there is no guarantee that Obama would not do likewise if sworn in as President. [http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html FactCheck.org, Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, ''Sliming Obama'', January 10, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has not disclosed who really wrote his so-called autobiography, &amp;quot;Dreams From My Father,&amp;quot; but a comparison of his speaking with that book indicates the unlikelihood that he wrote it.  In fact, a computer analysis strongly suggests that Obama's friend, the terrorist Bill Ayers, was the author of key parts of the book.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;www.cashill.com, ''Who Wrote “Dreams From My Father&amp;quot;?'', by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008 [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm] Jack Cashill compared the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barak Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayres had ghostwritten ''Dreams''.  A computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of his friend's, the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=77815&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is likely to be [[Muslim]], despite his denials, because:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background and education are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name means &amp;quot;a descendant of the Prophet Muhammad,&amp;quot; which most Christians would not retain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&amp;amp;sdn=islam&amp;amp;cdn=religion&amp;amp;tm=4&amp;amp;f=10&amp;amp;tt=2&amp;amp;bt=0&amp;amp;bts=0&amp;amp;zu=http%3A//www.sudairy.com/arabic/masc.html]  After Obama became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, the Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrines of [[taqiyya]] and [[takeyya]] encourage adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.&lt;br /&gt;
*Many of Obama's statements about religion conflict with Christianity, leading one group to demonstrate with a 7-part video series, &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is Not a Christian.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianadc.org/pages/page.asp?page_id=23073&amp;amp;articleId=3249&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama downplays his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 [[Islamic]] states and Obama was educated at an [[Islamic]] grade school while he lived in an [[Islamic]]   country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams from My Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bills co-sponsored ===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Accomplishments while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/362269,CST-NWS-sweet29.article 'I was a little nervous' at debate'], Lynn Sweet, &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.  From his remarks, he states that he has &amp;quot;one more to go&amp;quot; and stated he couldn't visit Hawaii and Alaska, indicating he meant to say, &amp;quot;forty-seven states&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Campaign financing=== &lt;br /&gt;
Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Secrecy=== &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
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# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
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# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
# Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)&lt;br /&gt;
# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
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# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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# List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, John McCain's wife Cindy noted that Obama is running &amp;quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &amp;quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&amp;quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &amp;quot;...never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with a subtle reference to Alzheimer's disease when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &amp;quot;lost his bearings&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &amp;quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of the biggest distortions by Obama is that 95% of all taxpayers will get a tax cut. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama's 95% Illusion] Wall Steet Journal, October 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Without the distortion, Obama is proposing income re-distribution because those families that pay no taxes, one-third, will get money from the wealthy top 5%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another feature of the Obama campaign is the unruly audience. CNN reported in October of 2008 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3565842635.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, that people are calling John McCain a terrorist at these events. According to Sen. McCain, &amp;quot;I've heard the [label terrorist], unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element.&amp;quot; Other eyewitness reports are harsher &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://theinvigilator.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-front-of-disgust.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The fact is, is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers) ISBN 0307383415&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama) ISBN 0307455874&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak) ISBN 0786720573&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025&lt;br /&gt;
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==Published criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some controversy over the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, an analyst at the Israel Insider website, has concluded based on a photographic analysis of the document that the birth certificate has been altered and is likely not Obama's true birth certificate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of &amp;quot;multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries&amp;quot; remains on the table. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama] Newsbusters.org, August 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and put the matter to rest, they seek to have the lawsuit dismissed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/29/fight-smears-website-admits-obama-was-kenyan-citizen-wheres-msm 'Fight the Smears' Website Admits Obama was Kenyan Citizen: Where's the MSM?] NewsBusters.org, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The_Honorable_James_David_Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black_Liberation_Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now_%28ACORN%29]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;''&amp;quot;Obama&amp;quot; redirects here.  For other uses see [[Obama (disambiguation)]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama, II''' (born in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the 2008 nominee of the [[Democratic Party]] for [[President of the United States of America|president]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org Democratic Party website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has served as a freshman [[Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] since 2004. On August 23 he chose [[Senator Joseph Biden]] as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  If elected, Obama would likely become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]] of the [[United States]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has not disclosed who really wrote his so-called autobiography, &amp;quot;Dreams From My Father,&amp;quot; but a comparison of his speaking with that book indicates the unlikelihood that he wrote it.  In fact, a computer analysis strongly suggests that Obama's friend, the terrorist Bill Ayers, was the author of key parts of the book.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of his friend's, the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed. [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=77815&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is likely to be [[Muslim]] because:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background and education are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name remains [[Muslim]], which most Christians would not retain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&amp;amp;sdn=islam&amp;amp;cdn=religion&amp;amp;tm=4&amp;amp;f=10&amp;amp;tt=2&amp;amp;bt=0&amp;amp;bts=0&amp;amp;zu=http%3A//www.sudairy.com/arabic/masc.html]  After Obama became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, the Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the campaign trail Obama has been reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by Fareed Zakaria,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Many of Obama's statements about religion conflict with Christianity, leading one group to demonstrate with a 7-part video series, &amp;quot;Why Barack Obama is Not a Christian.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianadc.org/pages/page.asp?page_id=23073&amp;amp;articleId=3249&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama downplays his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 [[Islamic]] states and Obama was educated at an [[Islamic]] grade school while he lived in an [[Islamic]]   country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Insights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams from My Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Statements===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legal career==&lt;br /&gt;
Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate career==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Accomplishments while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/362269,CST-NWS-sweet29.article 'I was a little nervous' at debate'], Lynn Sweet, &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.  From his remarks, he states that he has &amp;quot;one more to go&amp;quot; and stated he couldn't visit Hawaii and Alaska, indicating he meant to say, &amp;quot;forty-seven states&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
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# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
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# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, John McCain's wife Cindy noted that Obama is running &amp;quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &amp;quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&amp;quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &amp;quot;...never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with a subtle reference to Alzheimer's disease when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &amp;quot;lost his bearings&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &amp;quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of the biggest distortions by Obama is that 95% of all taxpayers will get a tax cut. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama's 95% Illusion] Wall Steet Journal, October 13, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Without the distortion, Obama is proposing income re-distribution because those families that pay no taxes, one-third, will get money from the wealthy top 5%.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another feature of the Obama campaign is the unruly audience. CNN reported in October of 2008 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3565842635.aspx&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, that people are calling John McCain a terrorist at these events. According to Sen. McCain, &amp;quot;I've heard the [label terrorist], unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element.&amp;quot; Other eyewitness reports are harsher &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://theinvigilator.blogspot.com/2008/10/on-front-of-disgust.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 &lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025&lt;br /&gt;
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On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some controversy over the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, an analyst at the Israel Insider website, has concluded based on a photographic analysis of the document that the birth certificate has been altered and is likely not Obama's true birth certificate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of &amp;quot;multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries&amp;quot; remains on the table. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama] Newsbusters.org, August 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and put the matter to rest, they seek to have the lawsuit dismissed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/29/fight-smears-website-admits-obama-was-kenyan-citizen-wheres-msm 'Fight the Smears' Website Admits Obama was Kenyan Citizen: Where's the MSM?] NewsBusters.org, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The_Honorable_James_David_Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black_Liberation_Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now_%28ACORN%29]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Liberal denial</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-12T19:25:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: Oops: put it in the top ten by accident&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Liberal denial''' is the tendency of [[liberals]] to go into &amp;quot;denial mode&amp;quot; and conceal, deny or censor the truth for ideological reasons.  A list of the top ten ''common'' instances of [[liberal denial]] are the following:&lt;br /&gt;
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# [[liberals]] deny they are [[liberal]], and that most of the media are [[liberal]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Hollywood values]], [[professor values]] and general [[liberal]] values have consequences for those who believe in them, and also for innocent victims&lt;br /&gt;
# [[liberals]] have censored [[prayer]] in [[public school]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A [[public school]] student who once &amp;quot;tape recorded a teacher making religious remarks to his students&amp;quot; to complain about it then later objected to a textbook explaining how prayer is censored from [[public school]] schools by court decisions. [http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=4614012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
# a woman significantly reduces her risk of breast cancer by having children rather than [[abortions]]&lt;br /&gt;
# about half of promiscuous people carry sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and those STDs cause infertility&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Among those who admitted having sex, the rate was even more disturbing -- 40 percent had an STD.&amp;quot;[http://www.tulsaworld.com/lifestyle/article.aspx?articleID=20080312_1_C12_hUShe15125]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# the strident promoters of [[evolution]] generally have weaker credentials than advocates of [[intelligent design]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [[Richard Sternberg]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# college faculties at nearly every school are completely dominated by [[liberals]], and have virtually no [[conservatives]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[homosexuality]] shortens lifespan for a variety of reasons&lt;br /&gt;
# reducing the number of guns, which are primarily defensive weapons, results in an increase in crime&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Liberals]] deny that the war in [[Iraq]] was needed and also deny that the surge has worked&lt;br /&gt;
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More generally, liberals also deny:&lt;br /&gt;
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# That [[Obama]] is running the dirtiest campaign since Johnson&lt;br /&gt;
# more than 80% of child molesters are pornography addicts&lt;br /&gt;
# people like [[young mass murderers]] who take [[atheistic]] beliefs to their logical conclusions are not &amp;quot;crazy&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;insane&amp;quot;, but are true believers &lt;br /&gt;
# the intellectual justification for [[Hitler]]'s attempt to build a master Aryan race was the [[theory of evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[feminists]] censor discussion about differences between men and women, and boys and girls&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Socialized_medicine|state run health care]] has lead to Islamic terrorism in Britain, and would do so in the US. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMu6wCqdeyQ ''FOX News analyzes the new terror in state healthcare.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# obesity is a bigger problem than hunger in the Western world&lt;br /&gt;
# that a school having virtually no [[conservative]] teachers and many [[atheists]] and [[liberals]] is a [[liberal]] school&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[liberals]] attempt to intimidate and ostracize [[conservatives]], particularly in school environments and some occupations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[liberals and friendship]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[liberals]] support taxpayer-funded [[abortion]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that girls and women in sports have debilitating ACL knee injuries at 3-4 times the rate of men,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Compare'' [http://www.universityhealthmatters.com/article.php?artid=50] (with an explanation of why there is a big difference) ''with'' [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/health/18knee.html?ex=1204088400&amp;amp;en=3a5abfaa6104ac63&amp;amp;ei=5070&amp;amp;emc=eta1 New York Times] (downplaying the difference and pretending that no one knows why).  The New York Times denies overwhelming evidence, including the following:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Female athletes, particularly basketball players, are far more likely than their male counterparts to suffer ACL [Anterior Cruciate Ligament] injuries.&amp;quot; Stephen Hargis, &amp;quot;Girls have more torn ACLs,&amp;quot; Chattanooga Times Free Press (Tennessee), D1 (Feb. 4, 2005). According to the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons, the risk of women tearing their ACL is 1 in 100. This number drops significantly to only 1 in 500 for men. See Nikki Usher, &amp;quot;Knee injury takes toll on girls playing soccer five times more likely than males to suffer a torn ACL,&amp;quot; Philadelphia Inquirer, A01 (Nov. 29, 2004). &amp;quot;Compared with guys, female athletes run an eight-times-greater risk of tearing the ACL, a fibrous band that connects the shinbone (tibia) to the thighbone (femur). Basketball, soccer and other sports that require cutting moves or jump shots can put athletes at risk.&amp;quot; Kathleen Fackelmann, &amp;quot;Girls face higher knee injury risk,&amp;quot; USA Today, 15B (Aug. 24, 2004). Timothy Hewett, PhD, the lead researcher on a definitive study at the Sports Medicine Biodynamics Center at the University of Cincinnati, says this is &amp;quot;close to a billion-dollar problem in girls and women in the USA. ... Even after girls have recovered from the acute injury, the changes in the joint may set the stage for osteoarthritis of the knee ....&amp;quot; ''Id.'' That obvious suspicion was quickly confirmed: a study subsequently published in Arthritis &amp;amp; Rheumatism demonstrated that &amp;quot;more than half of ... 103 soccer players, who were ages 14 to 28 at the time of the ACL injury, suffered osteoarthritis of the knee at the time of the study -- about 12 years later.&amp;quot; Kathleen Fackelmann, &amp;quot;Girls' knee injuries have later consequences,&amp;quot; USA Today, 9D (Oct. 7, 2004). &amp;quot;Many of the women, who were about 31 by that time, also said they had pain or some other disability that made it hard to conduct daily activities.&amp;quot; ''Id.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and are vulnerable to other injuries&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Amber Scull ruptured her spleen after she was tackled during a practice drill at Nature Coast Tech in Brooksville 2 1/2 months ago. Had she [not] arrived at the hospital 30 minutes later, doctors told her mother, she might have died.&amp;quot; [http://www.sptimes.com/2004/01/06/news_pf/Sports/Girls_face_dangers_on.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[young mass murderers]] fit the profile of [[public school]]-trained [[atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that the numerous premature deaths of [[Hollywood]] stars are the result of [[Hollywood values]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Liberal [[Wikipedia]] lists numerous [[actor]]s who died of drug overdoses, but will not acknowledge the role played by [[Hollywood values]], for which Wikipedia does not even have an entry. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drug-related_deaths]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[homeschoolers]] often do better than those who attend [[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[culture]] affects [[politics]], and people's views and lifestyles&lt;br /&gt;
# that successful [[democracy]], both historically and logically, is the result of [[Protestantism|Protestant]] [[Christianity]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.apologetics.com/default.jsp?bodycontent=/articles/cultural_apologetics/snyder-democracy1.html Calvinism and the Success of Liberal Democracy, by John Snyder]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Lawrence Summers]] was fired as President of [[Harvard]] for making a [[political correctness|politically incorrect]] suggestion about women and [[math]] aptitude&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Ronald Reagan]]'s public exhortation, &amp;quot;[[Mikhail Gorbachev|Mr. Gorbachev]], tear down this wall,&amp;quot; helped cause the nearly 30-year-old [[Berlin Wall]] later be torn down&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[gun control]] increases [[crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that reducing [[taxes]] stimulates the [[economy]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that choosing [[abortion]] over childbirth increases the risk of [[breast cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that the [[mainstream media]] is [[bias]]ed&lt;br /&gt;
# that privately-run [[transport]] is more efficient than government-run transport&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Universal Health Care|public health care]] is inferior medical care&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Labor union|union]]s interfere with [[employment]] opportunities&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[liberal]] leaders engage in shocking wrongdoing, [[Liberal hypocrisy|hypocrisy]], and abuse of power&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., leading [[liberal]] [[Eliot Spitzer]] and how fellow [[liberals]] downplayed or were silent about his misconduct.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that ideas do matter, and can cause great harm, including liberal falsehoods&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Islam]]ic extremism is a threat to the [[Western civilization]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leftist [[Sam Harris]] admitted and complained about this liberal denial [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/REPOSITORY/610090301/1028/OPINION02 here].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that banning [[same-sex marriage]] is analogous to banning [[polygamy]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that aggressive interrogation is often the only way to obtain answers from [[terrorists]]&lt;br /&gt;
# how the [[liberal]] ideology is pushed on unsuspecting others, particularly youngsters&lt;br /&gt;
# that free trade strengthens global democracies&lt;br /&gt;
# that a child in a mother's womb has rights established by the [[Constitution]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that a [[vote]] for (yea) or a vote against (nea) is an absolute position&lt;br /&gt;
# that you can be held accountable for the statements uttered&lt;br /&gt;
# that climate forecasts 50 years from now are as inaccurate as 15 days from now&lt;br /&gt;
# that politicians that proclaim 'Change' actually do not break with policies of the past&lt;br /&gt;
# that removing [[Saddam Hussein]] from power was a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
# that eating [[meat]] and [[dairy]] is important for physical and mental health.&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[marijuana]] use has no lasting psychological effects.&lt;br /&gt;
# that illegal immigrants contribute to crime and poverty in the towns and cities they occupy.&lt;br /&gt;
# that English will cease being the language of the United States in 20 years unless it is protected as the [[official language]] (and that this would be a loss if it happened).&lt;br /&gt;
# that President Bush didn't cause Hurricane Katrina.&lt;br /&gt;
# that President Clinton was responsible for Rwanda inaction.&lt;br /&gt;
# that the Democratic party discriminates against African-Americans.&lt;br /&gt;
# that restricting free speech by the [[Fairness Doctrine]] is actually not fair nor democratic.&lt;br /&gt;
# that we can drill oil our way out of high gas prices.&lt;br /&gt;
# that we can't replace our dependence on oil with green technologies, when in fact we need both oil and green technologies to solve our energy crisis.&lt;br /&gt;
# that opposing same-sex [[marriage]] is justified and point to decriminalized interracial marriage bans as proof.&lt;br /&gt;
# that they are [[intolerant]] of opposing viewpoints and then try to stifle further discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[socialism]] and liberalism have the same political agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[God]] should have a place in government&lt;br /&gt;
# that modern drilling methods result in minimal environmental impact, even if they were implemented in uninhabited lands such as the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that companies like [[Exxon]] should pay billions of dollars in damages to the general public, ''in addition'' to the money they spend to clean up industrial accidents and to recompense those directly affected&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[selective logging]] keeps forests healthier by reducing the risk of wildfire&lt;br /&gt;
# that high food prices are not caused by [[ethanol]] production, but rather by the million acres of crop- and pastureland that have been taken out of production in the interest of wildlife conservation.&lt;br /&gt;
# that the life of a human is more important than the life of an animal or plant.&lt;br /&gt;
# that modern technology can make [[coal]] clean&lt;br /&gt;
# that a fence is the most effective and ultimately, the most peaceful way to protect our large border from illegal immigrants trying to get in&lt;br /&gt;
# that socially dangerous people exhibit a well-documented pattern of reading habits&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[heavy metal]] music is generally anti-Christian and promotes themes such as drugs, sex and [[Satan]] worship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Often [[liberal]]s refuse to admit that they are [[liberal]]s, in the hope of appearing more reasonable.  [[Hillary Clinton]] refused to admit in a presidential debate in 2007 that she is a [[liberal]]. Similarly, [[Michael Dukakis]] refused for a while to admit that he was a [[liberal]] during the 1988 presidential campaign.  Only out of desperation did Dukakis admit that he was a [[liberal]], and even then he admitted only that was a liberal like President [[Harry Truman]], who served 40 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberals like to bash President Bush as a war monger and cite [[President Clinton]] for his eight years of peace and prosperity. Liberals will deny record low unemployment, more people owning their homes and President Bush going after [[terrorists]] while protecting Americans from further attacks. Liberals will selectively forget that during Clinton's term: the [[Rwanda]] massacre occured, the bombing of the USS Cole, the war in the [[Balkans]], the two US embassies bombed in [[Africa]], the Kobar tower bombing in Saudi Arabia, the [[Somalia]] conflict, the missile strike against [[Afghanistan]] and the bombing campaign against Iraq. Also, [[liberals]] will deny that Clinton's economic policy ignored a series of high profile companies that eventually collapsed due to fraud: Enron, Tyco, Worldcom and Qwest. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Liberal denial</title>
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		<updated>2008-10-12T19:24:52Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Liberal denial''' is the tendency of [[liberals]] to go into &amp;quot;denial mode&amp;quot; and conceal, deny or censor the truth for ideological reasons.  A list of the top ten ''common'' instances of [[liberal denial]] are the following:&lt;br /&gt;
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# That [[Obama]] is running the dirtiest campaign since Johnson&lt;br /&gt;
# [[liberals]] deny they are [[liberal]], and that most of the media are [[liberal]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Hollywood values]], [[professor values]] and general [[liberal]] values have consequences for those who believe in them, and also for innocent victims&lt;br /&gt;
# [[liberals]] have censored [[prayer]] in [[public school]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A [[public school]] student who once &amp;quot;tape recorded a teacher making religious remarks to his students&amp;quot; to complain about it then later objected to a textbook explaining how prayer is censored from [[public school]] schools by court decisions. [http://abcnews.go.com/US/WireStory?id=4614012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
# a woman significantly reduces her risk of breast cancer by having children rather than [[abortions]]&lt;br /&gt;
# about half of promiscuous people carry sexually transmitted diseases (STDs), and those STDs cause infertility&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Among those who admitted having sex, the rate was even more disturbing -- 40 percent had an STD.&amp;quot;[http://www.tulsaworld.com/lifestyle/article.aspx?articleID=20080312_1_C12_hUShe15125]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# the strident promoters of [[evolution]] generally have weaker credentials than advocates of [[intelligent design]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [[Richard Sternberg]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# college faculties at nearly every school are completely dominated by [[liberals]], and have virtually no [[conservatives]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[homosexuality]] shortens lifespan for a variety of reasons&lt;br /&gt;
# reducing the number of guns, which are primarily defensive weapons, results in an increase in crime&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Liberals]] deny that the war in [[Iraq]] was needed and also deny that the surge has worked&lt;br /&gt;
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More generally, liberals also deny:&lt;br /&gt;
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# more than 80% of child molesters are pornography addicts&lt;br /&gt;
# people like [[young mass murderers]] who take [[atheistic]] beliefs to their logical conclusions are not &amp;quot;crazy&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;insane&amp;quot;, but are true believers &lt;br /&gt;
# the intellectual justification for [[Hitler]]'s attempt to build a master Aryan race was the [[theory of evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
# [[feminists]] censor discussion about differences between men and women, and boys and girls&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Socialized_medicine|state run health care]] has lead to Islamic terrorism in Britain, and would do so in the US. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMu6wCqdeyQ ''FOX News analyzes the new terror in state healthcare.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# obesity is a bigger problem than hunger in the Western world&lt;br /&gt;
# that a school having virtually no [[conservative]] teachers and many [[atheists]] and [[liberals]] is a [[liberal]] school&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[liberals]] attempt to intimidate and ostracize [[conservatives]], particularly in school environments and some occupations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[liberals and friendship]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[liberals]] support taxpayer-funded [[abortion]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that girls and women in sports have debilitating ACL knee injuries at 3-4 times the rate of men,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Compare'' [http://www.universityhealthmatters.com/article.php?artid=50] (with an explanation of why there is a big difference) ''with'' [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/health/18knee.html?ex=1204088400&amp;amp;en=3a5abfaa6104ac63&amp;amp;ei=5070&amp;amp;emc=eta1 New York Times] (downplaying the difference and pretending that no one knows why).  The New York Times denies overwhelming evidence, including the following:&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Female athletes, particularly basketball players, are far more likely than their male counterparts to suffer ACL [Anterior Cruciate Ligament] injuries.&amp;quot; Stephen Hargis, &amp;quot;Girls have more torn ACLs,&amp;quot; Chattanooga Times Free Press (Tennessee), D1 (Feb. 4, 2005). According to the American Academy of Orthopaedic Surgeons, the risk of women tearing their ACL is 1 in 100. This number drops significantly to only 1 in 500 for men. See Nikki Usher, &amp;quot;Knee injury takes toll on girls playing soccer five times more likely than males to suffer a torn ACL,&amp;quot; Philadelphia Inquirer, A01 (Nov. 29, 2004). &amp;quot;Compared with guys, female athletes run an eight-times-greater risk of tearing the ACL, a fibrous band that connects the shinbone (tibia) to the thighbone (femur). Basketball, soccer and other sports that require cutting moves or jump shots can put athletes at risk.&amp;quot; Kathleen Fackelmann, &amp;quot;Girls face higher knee injury risk,&amp;quot; USA Today, 15B (Aug. 24, 2004). Timothy Hewett, PhD, the lead researcher on a definitive study at the Sports Medicine Biodynamics Center at the University of Cincinnati, says this is &amp;quot;close to a billion-dollar problem in girls and women in the USA. ... Even after girls have recovered from the acute injury, the changes in the joint may set the stage for osteoarthritis of the knee ....&amp;quot; ''Id.'' That obvious suspicion was quickly confirmed: a study subsequently published in Arthritis &amp;amp; Rheumatism demonstrated that &amp;quot;more than half of ... 103 soccer players, who were ages 14 to 28 at the time of the ACL injury, suffered osteoarthritis of the knee at the time of the study -- about 12 years later.&amp;quot; Kathleen Fackelmann, &amp;quot;Girls' knee injuries have later consequences,&amp;quot; USA Today, 9D (Oct. 7, 2004). &amp;quot;Many of the women, who were about 31 by that time, also said they had pain or some other disability that made it hard to conduct daily activities.&amp;quot; ''Id.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and are vulnerable to other injuries&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Amber Scull ruptured her spleen after she was tackled during a practice drill at Nature Coast Tech in Brooksville 2 1/2 months ago. Had she [not] arrived at the hospital 30 minutes later, doctors told her mother, she might have died.&amp;quot; [http://www.sptimes.com/2004/01/06/news_pf/Sports/Girls_face_dangers_on.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[young mass murderers]] fit the profile of [[public school]]-trained [[atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that the numerous premature deaths of [[Hollywood]] stars are the result of [[Hollywood values]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Liberal [[Wikipedia]] lists numerous [[actor]]s who died of drug overdoses, but will not acknowledge the role played by [[Hollywood values]], for which Wikipedia does not even have an entry. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_drug-related_deaths]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[homeschoolers]] often do better than those who attend [[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[culture]] affects [[politics]], and people's views and lifestyles&lt;br /&gt;
# that successful [[democracy]], both historically and logically, is the result of [[Protestantism|Protestant]] [[Christianity]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.apologetics.com/default.jsp?bodycontent=/articles/cultural_apologetics/snyder-democracy1.html Calvinism and the Success of Liberal Democracy, by John Snyder]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Lawrence Summers]] was fired as President of [[Harvard]] for making a [[political correctness|politically incorrect]] suggestion about women and [[math]] aptitude&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Ronald Reagan]]'s public exhortation, &amp;quot;[[Mikhail Gorbachev|Mr. Gorbachev]], tear down this wall,&amp;quot; helped cause the nearly 30-year-old [[Berlin Wall]] later be torn down&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[gun control]] increases [[crime]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that reducing [[taxes]] stimulates the [[economy]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that choosing [[abortion]] over childbirth increases the risk of [[breast cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that the [[mainstream media]] is [[bias]]ed&lt;br /&gt;
# that privately-run [[transport]] is more efficient than government-run transport&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Universal Health Care|public health care]] is inferior medical care&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Labor union|union]]s interfere with [[employment]] opportunities&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[liberal]] leaders engage in shocking wrongdoing, [[Liberal hypocrisy|hypocrisy]], and abuse of power&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., leading [[liberal]] [[Eliot Spitzer]] and how fellow [[liberals]] downplayed or were silent about his misconduct.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that ideas do matter, and can cause great harm, including liberal falsehoods&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[Islam]]ic extremism is a threat to the [[Western civilization]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Leftist [[Sam Harris]] admitted and complained about this liberal denial [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061009/REPOSITORY/610090301/1028/OPINION02 here].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# that banning [[same-sex marriage]] is analogous to banning [[polygamy]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that aggressive interrogation is often the only way to obtain answers from [[terrorists]]&lt;br /&gt;
# how the [[liberal]] ideology is pushed on unsuspecting others, particularly youngsters&lt;br /&gt;
# that free trade strengthens global democracies&lt;br /&gt;
# that a child in a mother's womb has rights established by the [[Constitution]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that a [[vote]] for (yea) or a vote against (nea) is an absolute position&lt;br /&gt;
# that you can be held accountable for the statements uttered&lt;br /&gt;
# that climate forecasts 50 years from now are as inaccurate as 15 days from now&lt;br /&gt;
# that politicians that proclaim 'Change' actually do not break with policies of the past&lt;br /&gt;
# that removing [[Saddam Hussein]] from power was a good thing.&lt;br /&gt;
# that eating [[meat]] and [[dairy]] is important for physical and mental health.&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[marijuana]] use has no lasting psychological effects.&lt;br /&gt;
# that illegal immigrants contribute to crime and poverty in the towns and cities they occupy.&lt;br /&gt;
# that English will cease being the language of the United States in 20 years unless it is protected as the [[official language]] (and that this would be a loss if it happened).&lt;br /&gt;
# that President Bush didn't cause Hurricane Katrina.&lt;br /&gt;
# that President Clinton was responsible for Rwanda inaction.&lt;br /&gt;
# that the Democratic party discriminates against African-Americans.&lt;br /&gt;
# that restricting free speech by the [[Fairness Doctrine]] is actually not fair nor democratic.&lt;br /&gt;
# that we can drill oil our way out of high gas prices.&lt;br /&gt;
# that we can't replace our dependence on oil with green technologies, when in fact we need both oil and green technologies to solve our energy crisis.&lt;br /&gt;
# that opposing same-sex [[marriage]] is justified and point to decriminalized interracial marriage bans as proof.&lt;br /&gt;
# that they are [[intolerant]] of opposing viewpoints and then try to stifle further discussion.&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[socialism]] and liberalism have the same political agenda.&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[God]] should have a place in government&lt;br /&gt;
# that modern drilling methods result in minimal environmental impact, even if they were implemented in uninhabited lands such as the [[Arctic National Wildlife Refuge]]&lt;br /&gt;
# that companies like [[Exxon]] should pay billions of dollars in damages to the general public, ''in addition'' to the money they spend to clean up industrial accidents and to recompense those directly affected&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[selective logging]] keeps forests healthier by reducing the risk of wildfire&lt;br /&gt;
# that high food prices are not caused by [[ethanol]] production, but rather by the million acres of crop- and pastureland that have been taken out of production in the interest of wildlife conservation.&lt;br /&gt;
# that the life of a human is more important than the life of an animal or plant.&lt;br /&gt;
# that modern technology can make [[coal]] clean&lt;br /&gt;
# that a fence is the most effective and ultimately, the most peaceful way to protect our large border from illegal immigrants trying to get in&lt;br /&gt;
# that socially dangerous people exhibit a well-documented pattern of reading habits&lt;br /&gt;
# that [[heavy metal]] music is generally anti-Christian and promotes themes such as drugs, sex and [[Satan]] worship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Often [[liberal]]s refuse to admit that they are [[liberal]]s, in the hope of appearing more reasonable.  [[Hillary Clinton]] refused to admit in a presidential debate in 2007 that she is a [[liberal]]. Similarly, [[Michael Dukakis]] refused for a while to admit that he was a [[liberal]] during the 1988 presidential campaign.  Only out of desperation did Dukakis admit that he was a [[liberal]], and even then he admitted only that was a liberal like President [[Harry Truman]], who served 40 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberals like to bash President Bush as a war monger and cite [[President Clinton]] for his eight years of peace and prosperity. Liberals will deny record low unemployment, more people owning their homes and President Bush going after [[terrorists]] while protecting Americans from further attacks. Liberals will selectively forget that during Clinton's term: the [[Rwanda]] massacre occured, the bombing of the USS Cole, the war in the [[Balkans]], the two US embassies bombed in [[Africa]], the Kobar tower bombing in Saudi Arabia, the [[Somalia]] conflict, the missile strike against [[Afghanistan]] and the bombing campaign against Iraq. Also, [[liberals]] will deny that Clinton's economic policy ignored a series of high profile companies that eventually collapsed due to fraud: Enron, Tyco, Worldcom and Qwest. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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&lt;div&gt;''&amp;quot;Obama&amp;quot; redirects here.  For other uses see [[Obama (disambiguation)]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama, II''' (born in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the 2008 nominee of the [[Democratic Party]] for [[President of the United States of America|president]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org Democratic Party website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has served as a freshman [[Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] since 2004. On August 23 he chose [[Senator Joseph Biden]] as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  If elected, Obama may become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]] of the [[United States]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has not disclosed who really wrote his so-called autobiography, &amp;quot;Dreams From My Father,&amp;quot; but a comparison of his speaking with that book indicates the unlikelihood that he wrote it.  In fact, a computer analysis strongly suggests that Obama's friend, the terrorist Bill Ayers, was the author of key parts of the book.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of his friend's, the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book. &amp;quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&amp;quot; the experienced analyst found &amp;quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&amp;quot; that he processed. [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is likely to be Muslim because:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background and education are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name remains [[Muslim]], which most Christians would not retain.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&amp;amp;sdn=islam&amp;amp;cdn=religion&amp;amp;tm=4&amp;amp;f=10&amp;amp;tt=2&amp;amp;bt=0&amp;amp;bts=0&amp;amp;zu=http%3A//www.sudairy.com/arabic/masc.html]  After Obama became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has written that the autobiography of Malcolm X, the Nation of Islam leader, inspired him in his youth&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became “churched” in a 2007 speech: “It’s around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you’re organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama downplays his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 [[Islamic]] states and Obama was educated at an [[Islamic]] grade school while he lived in an [[Islamic]] country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Insights==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams of my Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legal career==&lt;br /&gt;
Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.  From his remarks, he states that he has &amp;quot;one more to go&amp;quot; and stated he couldn't visit Hawaii and Alaska, indicating he meant to say, &amp;quot;forty-seven states&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Secrecy=== &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
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# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Harvard]] College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
# Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)&lt;br /&gt;
# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
# Record of baptism&lt;br /&gt;
# Selective Service Registration&lt;br /&gt;
# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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# Access to his Grandmother&lt;br /&gt;
# List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, Cindy McCain noted that Obama is running &amp;quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &amp;quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&amp;quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &amp;quot;...never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen McCain's age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with an Alzheimer's Disease reference when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &amp;quot;lost his bearings&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &amp;quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp;amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist that she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well. Moreover, as a child I rarely came in contact with those who might offer a substantially different view of faith. My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.&lt;br /&gt;
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And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known. She had an unswerving instinct for kindness, charity, and love, and spent much of her life acting on that instinct, sometimes to her detriment. Without the help of religious texts or outside authorities, she worked mightily to instill in me the values that many Americans learn in Sunday school: honesty, empathy, discipline, delayed gratification, and hard work. She raged at poverty and injustice.}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579-4,00.html My Spiritual Journey] Time Magazine, October 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Published criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some controversy over the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, an analyst at the Israel Insider website, has concluded based on a photographic analysis of the document that the birth certificate has been altered and is likely not Obama's true birth certificate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of &amp;quot;multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries&amp;quot; remains on the table. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama] Newsbusters.org, August 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and put the matter to rest, they seek to have the lawsuit dismissed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/29/fight-smears-website-admits-obama-was-kenyan-citizen-wheres-msm 'Fight the Smears' Website Admits Obama was Kenyan Citizen: Where's the MSM?] NewsBusters.org, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The_Honorable_James_David_Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black_Liberation_Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Association_of_Community_Organizations_for_Reform_Now_%28ACORN%29]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Sex education</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: I forgot a comma&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Sex Education''' is classroom instruction on [[human reproduction]] and [[sexuality]]. Liberals oppose teaching abstinence, the only certain way to avoid sexually transmitted diseases that cause infertility, some cancers and abortions. Conservatives typically favor abstinence-only sex education. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Abstinence Only==&lt;br /&gt;
Federal funding for abstinence only education across the country has increased during the decade, but still does not equal the amount of money the government gives to a [[Planned Parenthood]], a single organization, each year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/education/la-na-abstinence24apr24,1,5905418.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/mmalkin/2008/mm_06041.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sex Education in England ==&lt;br /&gt;
In England the National Curriculum [http://www.dfes.gov.uk] requires all schools to offer comprehensive sex education as part of Personal, Social and Health Education, from junior school on, but parents may choose to not have their children attend sex education classes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Sociology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Sexuality]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Sex Education''' is classroom instruction on [[human reproduction]] and [[sexuality]]. Liberals oppose teaching abstinence, the only certain way to avoid sexually transmitted diseases that cause infertility some cancers and abortions. Conservatives typically favor abstinence-only sex education. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Abstinence Only==&lt;br /&gt;
Federal funding for abstinence only education across the country has increased during the decade, but still does not equal the amount of money the government gives to a [[Planned Parenthood]], a single organization, each year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/education/la-na-abstinence24apr24,1,5905418.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/mmalkin/2008/mm_06041.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sex Education in England ==&lt;br /&gt;
In England the National Curriculum [http://www.dfes.gov.uk] requires all schools to offer comprehensive sex education as part of Personal, Social and Health Education, from junior school on, but parents may choose to not have their children attend sex education classes.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Sociology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Sexuality]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Sudden Jihad Syndrome</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MikeMike: /* Merge Discussion */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Merge Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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But *GASP* don't you see how it's Liberal Bias to not have a dedicated article on this term that basically only one guy on Earth uses? Wikipedia deleted it, and it's something a conservative did, thus, we ''must'' have it! ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Okay, seriously speaking, as I've said in two places so far, get rid of it. '''Merge''' it, '''delete''' it, anything. The majority of sources inside the article doesn't even mention the term (so far, I've only seen that guy using it, and somebody in an editorial mentioned in passing that the guy used it), Original Research to the max, and the term is incredibly broad to the level of being useless and slightly offensive.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conservative or not, we don't need a dedicated article about every new term somebody came up with. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 15:01, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree with Jenkins' sentiment if not his tact. I think the article should be deleted, but I would be ok with it being merged and edited to comply with the [[Conservapedia:Guidelines]]. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 15:11, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::'''NOTE:''' The following comment was removed ''twice'' without explanation, and the only hint is a mysterious block note that reads &amp;quot;Try using better tact when talking about the people here&amp;quot;. However, this post talks about '''Daniel Pipes''', who, to the best of my knowledge, is not a CP editor. On the other hand, Skip accused me of liberal deceit in an edit comment and did not even receive a warning. Thus, I feel that this comment should stay. Removing ''discussion'' post is completely against the spirit of having a ''discussion''. Or is there some connection between Pipes and CP that I'm not aware of? If he's some sort of Holy Man here, I'll back off, but until then, I will not censor myself just because he is a conservative. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 22:31, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sorry, but I already brought this up on Andy's talk page and the Examples of Bias talk page, and those posts were ignored. (You know how that feels...) However, I admit that I'm not wasting much tact on something that is effectively just racism (or at least an open invitation for it). Quoting our dear, &amp;quot;neoconservative academic&amp;quot; himself:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Individual Islamists may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and as such, all must be considered potential killers.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::What's the next step then? Since they &amp;quot;must be considered potential killers&amp;quot;, let's... oh, I dunno... stuff them all into prisons or a [[ghetto]] so they can't commit Sudden Jihad? Oh, and make them wear a special badge around their arm so we're warned... *whistles innocently*&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here, a bonus, from the same City Journal article:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The first and most straightforward thing is not to allow any more Islamists into the country. Each Islamist who enters the United States, whether as a visitor or an immigrant, is one more enemy on the home front. Officials need to scrutinize the speech, associations, and activities of potential visitors or immigrants for any signs of Islamist allegiances and keep out anyone they suspect of such ties.&lt;br /&gt;
(...)&lt;br /&gt;
Resident Muslim aliens who reveal themselves to be Islamist should be immediately expelled from the country before they have a chance to act. Citizen Islamists will have to be watched very closely and without cease.}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yep, I can feel the love. Let the [[racial profiling]] begin! Let's monitor everybody for &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;thoughtcrime&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Islamist trends! I'll accept being called a liberal for opposing this open hate. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 15:37, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Sorry, Jenkins. When I said I didn't agree with your tact I meant it as a joke, but it didn't come out well. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:07, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It's cool, really. :) I freely admit that it could have been more tactful, but when faced with the subject at hand, I don't really see the point. My gripe really isn't about any CP editor (Even though I still disagree that the deletion was bias, but that's not really connected to our article.), but rather about that Pipes guy who seems to have no problem with incredibly sweeping statements like the above. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 23:15, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I disagree strongly with merging this. I think Pipes is wrong. I don't know if he is being racist. But none of that is relevant. The term isn't used only by Daniel Pipes. Google shows over 25,000 hits for it. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&amp;amp;q=%22Sudden+Jihad+Syndrome%22&amp;amp;btnG=Google+Search] . The term has been used in other notable places such as a column in the Washington times. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NATION/203823370/1001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. And the connection of all these terrorists to SJS has been made by other sources also[http://www.montanasnews.com/articles.php?mode=view&amp;amp;id=7227]. [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 15:51, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''Merge''' with [[Jihad]]. Common sense solution. [[Image:User Fox.png|10px]] [[User:Fox|Fox]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:Fox|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Fox|contribs]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 17:52, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I still think it should be its own article. But that might make more sense than merging with Pipes. [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 18:40, 18 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If we merge this with Jihad, then we have to edit other articles on Cpedia (those on liberal biases) that use the lack of a SJS article to prove bias in Wikipedia. I doubt we can make our case to the authors of those Cpedia pages, so we should keep this here.&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the quality of the references was partially what got this article removed from WP, here's the state of the references as the article stands now:&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.nysun.com/article/29080 -- Editorial by Pipes. Threaded with racism, including quotes such as &amp;quot;Individual Islamists may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and as such, all must be considered potential killers.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.city-journal.org/html/11_4_fighting_militant.html -- Editorial by Pipes. More racism.&lt;br /&gt;
#http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NATION/203823370/1001 -- Article by Sara A. Carter. References some government report, though the report itself probably doesn't use the phrase SJS.&lt;br /&gt;
#http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/24/muhammad.profile/index.html -- Article by unnamed author at CNN. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS.)&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/12/01/sprj.dcsp.malvo.trial/index.html -- Article by unnamed author at CNN. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS.)&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.montanasnews.com/articles.php?mode=view&amp;amp;id=7227 -- Editorial by Gary Pratt. Gives a long list of Muslims who killed people, claiming that these are cases of SJS (though giving no evidence).&lt;br /&gt;
#http://archive.southcoasttoday.com/daily/02-97/02-25-97/a05wn036.htm -- Article by AP writer Tom Hayes. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS).&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={730A921C-1FED-4DCD-9949-D28A3390317D} -- Editorial by Pipes. Gives actual case and details of an allegid SJS case.&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/17/AR2006061700725.html -- Article by Washington Post writer Hamil R. Harris. Gives factual account of incident (no mention of SJS).&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.meforum.org/article/77 -- Very in-depth article by Uriel Heilman. Factual account of incident. (No mention of SJS.)&lt;br /&gt;
#http://www.thecourier.com/opinion/editoral/ar_ED_021607.asp -- Editorial by unnamed author. Basically just a recap of Pipes' frontpagemag article.&lt;br /&gt;
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I personally think that the Pipes articles (1, 2, 8) are only good for discussing what ''Pipes'' defines as SJS. Article 3 is the only one which mentions SJS without also mentioning Pipes, but the source isn't all that useful. Articles (4, 5, 7, 9, 11) are fine for describing incincidents, but do not use or allude to the term SJS. Of the remaining editorials, 6 is not relevant (it is an editorial about SJS, and anybody can right an editorial about whatever they want), and 11 is only the same information as reference 8. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 00:00, 19 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I've found many other mentions by the mainstream media and bloggers ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Examples not from Mr Pipes - [http://www.aina.org/news/20070217140736.htm] [http://www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/2008/01/03/sudden-jihad-syndrome-is-still-terrorism/] [http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/gate/archive/2006/08/09/cstillwell.DTL]. And an article in the Conservative Voice - [http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/23038.html]. Even the liberal [[New York Times]] listed it as a prominent term of 2006 [http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/24/weekinreview/24barrett.html?_r=2&amp;amp;n=Top/Reference/Times%20Topics/Subjects/E/English%20Language&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin].&lt;br /&gt;
Is this enough to allow us to include it? [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 16:24, 22 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The others seem fair enough, but the SFGate reference directly attributes the phrase to Pipes.   [[User:Reasonableperson|Reasonableperson]] 16:28, 22 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course it attributes the phrase to Pipes. He coined it. [[User:SkipJohnson|SkipJohnson]] 16:31, 22 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Proposal==&lt;br /&gt;
I propose that Sulejman Talovic be removed from the list.  This is in light of a new report on the Trolley Square Shooting which can be found [http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&amp;amp;sid=2570963 here].  This report clearly states that religion was not a motive.  Hence, I suggest he be removed from the list. [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 23:04, 30 January 2008 (EST) P.S. I would be glad to do this, I just felt it would be better to discuss first.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Technically, all we can say from the report is that we don't know if religion was or was not the motive. This isn't enough to say that religion definitely was not the motive, but it's enough in my book to remove the item. Anyone else? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:34, 30 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::So would I be within bounds to remove said entry? [[User:Absentismens|Absentismens]] 14:44, 31 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's been 24 hours and nobody's disagreed. I'd say move it to the talk page. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:28, 31 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I guess I could have done it myself, since I'm always telling others to do that. I have removed the following line:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;[[Sulejman Talovic]], a [[Bosnian]] Muslim, open fired in a [[Salt Lake City]] mall, killing five poeple before being shot dead by police.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.thecourier.com/opinion/editoral/ar_ED_021607.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=Motanna/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::for the reasons above. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 23:30, 31 January 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;''&amp;quot;Obama&amp;quot; redirects here.  For other uses see [[Obama (disambiguation)]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama, II''' (born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the 2008 nominee of the [[Democratic Party]] for [[President of the United States of America|president]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org Democratic Party website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has served as a freshman [[Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] since 2004. On August 23 he chose [[Senator Joseph Biden]] as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  If elected, Obama may become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]] of the [[United States]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails miserably at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet, as displayed in the Saddleback Forum.  The first McCain-Obama debate was held in Mississippi on September 26 and, without a teleprompter, Obama stumbled further. The second McCain-Obama debate was held on October 7, and had a Town Hall format.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is likely to be Muslim because:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background and education are [[Muslim]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name remains [[Muslim]], which most Christians would not retain&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&amp;amp;sdn=islam&amp;amp;cdn=religion&amp;amp;tm=4&amp;amp;f=10&amp;amp;tt=2&amp;amp;bt=0&amp;amp;bts=0&amp;amp;zu=http%3A//www.sudairy.com/arabic/masc.html]  After Obama became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama, in his autobiography &amp;quot;Dreams from My Father&amp;quot; (1995), descibes Muslim Malcolm X as his favorite black leader&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The odds of Obama being truthful in his claim that he converted to Christianity are less than 100 to 1 against it, as fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 [[Islamic]] states and Obama was educated at an [[Islamic]] grade school while he lived in an [[Islamic]] country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama downplays his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Insights==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams of my Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Statements===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. However, clearly Obama would have taken days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays, just as he would have taken days off from his previous school in observance of Catholic holidays. After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legal career==&lt;br /&gt;
Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate career==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bills co-sponsored ===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Accomplishments while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/362269,CST-NWS-sweet29.article 'I was a little nervous' at debate'], Lynn Sweet, &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.  From his remarks, he states that he has &amp;quot;one more to go&amp;quot; and stated he couldn't visit Hawaii and Alaska, indicating he meant to say, &amp;quot;forty-seven states&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Campaign financing=== &lt;br /&gt;
Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
===Secrecy=== &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
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# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Harvard]] College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
# Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)&lt;br /&gt;
# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
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# Selective Service Registration&lt;br /&gt;
# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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# List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &amp;quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;The fact is, is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Published criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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There has been some controversy over the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, an analyst at the Israel Insider website, has concluded based on a photographic analysis of the document that the birth certificate has been altered and is likely not Obama's true birth certificate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of &amp;quot;multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries&amp;quot; remains on the table. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama] Newsbusters.org, August 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and put the matter to rest, they seek to have the lawsuit dismissed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/29/fight-smears-website-admits-obama-was-kenyan-citizen-wheres-msm 'Fight the Smears' Website Admits Obama was Kenyan Citizen: Where's the MSM?] NewsBusters.org, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The_Honorable_James_David_Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black_Liberation_Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;''&amp;quot;Obama&amp;quot; redirects here.  For other uses see [[Obama (disambiguation)]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama, II''' (born, allegedly in Honolulu,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; August 4, 1961) is the 2008 nominee of the [[Democratic Party]] for [[President of the United States of America|president]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org Democratic Party website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama has served as a freshman [[Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] since 2004. On August 23 he chose [[Senator Joseph Biden]] as his running mate. In 2007, Obama was rated the most [[liberal]] Senator by the National Journal, who had rated [[Senator John Kerry]] the most liberal senator during his presidential run as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nj.nationaljournal.com/voteratings/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  If elected, Obama may become the first [[Muslim]] [[President]] of the [[United States]].&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails miserably at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet, as displayed in the Saddleback Forum.  The first McCain-Obama debate was held in Mississippi on September 26 and, without a teleprompter, Obama stumbled further. The second McCain-Obama debate was held on October 7, and had a Town Hall format.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &amp;quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Islam==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is likely to be Muslim because:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's background and education are [[Muslim]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name remains [[Muslim]], which most Christians would not retain&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://islam.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&amp;amp;sdn=islam&amp;amp;cdn=religion&amp;amp;tm=4&amp;amp;f=10&amp;amp;tt=2&amp;amp;bt=0&amp;amp;bts=0&amp;amp;zu=http%3A//www.sudairy.com/arabic/masc.html]  After Obama became politically ambitious, he declared himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;Paul&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama recently referred to his &amp;quot;Muslim faith&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama declared, &amp;quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; rather than the common American one&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama, in his autobiography &amp;quot;Dreams from My Father&amp;quot; (1995), descibes Muslim Malcolm X as his favorite black leader&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The odds of Obama being truthful in his claim that he converted to Christianity are less than 100 to 1 against it, as fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He could never explain where the false number of 57 came from, but it has been observed that there are 57 [[Islamic]] states and Obama was educated at an [[Islamic]] grade school while he lived in an [[Islamic]] country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama downplays his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his church in Chicago in 2008 when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Obama and Elitism==&lt;br /&gt;
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Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &amp;quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama replied, I &amp;quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &amp;quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&amp;quot; This claim was an exaggeration as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Insights==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago; in fact, he held the position of &amp;quot;Senior Lecturer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&amp;amp;address=132x4238307&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For most of his time there he was regarded by the university as a professor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama was on the faculty at the University of Chicago from 1992 to 2004.[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams of my Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &amp;quot;blow&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pot&amp;quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him.  In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&amp;quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama said that &amp;quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&amp;quot;  In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &amp;quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In his famous 2002 speech&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign &amp;quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Statements===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &amp;quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&amp;quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life and education==&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Hussein Obama II was allegedly born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years.  Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. However, clearly Obama would have taken days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays, just as he would have taken days off from his previous school in observance of Catholic holidays. After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.&lt;br /&gt;
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For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science.  Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School.  He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;amp;scp=3&amp;amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;amp;st=cse&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;amp;type=politics]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Legal career==&lt;br /&gt;
Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp;amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today.  During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education.  ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate career==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years.  Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004.  Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.  He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;amp;o2=desc]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published.  Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &amp;quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run ....  We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics.  ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &amp;quot;new strategy&amp;quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.&lt;br /&gt;
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As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bills co-sponsored ===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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*S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Accomplishments while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts. This is often cited when Obama is criticized for working across the aisle only for liberal puposes.  This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&amp;lt;obamasenate2010.gov&amp;gt; is now defunct.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois.  His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future.  It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &amp;quot;House Divided&amp;quot; speech.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &amp;quot;Obama declares he's running for president&amp;quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general.  Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. &lt;br /&gt;
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By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors.  $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &amp;quot;articulate&amp;quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chicago Sun-Times, &lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/362269,CST-NWS-sweet29.article 'I was a little nervous' at debate'], Lynn Sweet, &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for president of the United States, which of course has only 50 states.  From his remarks, he states that he has &amp;quot;one more to go&amp;quot; and stated he couldn't visit Hawaii and Alaska, indicating he meant to say, &amp;quot;forty-seven states&amp;quot;.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.&lt;br /&gt;
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By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing.  After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted.  First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]].  Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions.  Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation.  Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era.  The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.&lt;br /&gt;
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At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, &lt;br /&gt;
'''&amp;quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&amp;quot;''' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &amp;quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class.  According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama presidency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Campaign financing=== &lt;br /&gt;
Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &amp;quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&amp;quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a Presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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# Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)&lt;br /&gt;
# Columbia College records&lt;br /&gt;
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# Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Harvard]] College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Illinois State Senate records&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary&lt;br /&gt;
# Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers&lt;br /&gt;
# Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)&lt;br /&gt;
# Occidental College records&lt;br /&gt;
# Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate&lt;br /&gt;
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# Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007&lt;br /&gt;
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== Positions and Qualifications ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. Obama said &amp;quot;the first thing I'd do as president is sign the Freedom of Choice Act&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That bill &amp;quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, and would make partial-birth abortion legal again.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the  mother's womb.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&amp;quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own.  Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &amp;quot;extreme&amp;quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ...  Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&amp;quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &amp;quot;MoveOn.org&amp;quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
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He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]].  Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &amp;quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama's &amp;quot;research&amp;quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the [[Constitution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &amp;quot;best student I ever had&amp;quot; and the &amp;quot;most exciting research assistant.&amp;quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office.  In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &amp;quot;present&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;aye&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;nay&amp;quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed.  A newspaper that favored Obama  took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]].  &amp;quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ...  The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;teleprompter&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  The [[New York Times]] noted that &amp;quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;amp;ex=1358485200&amp;amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;amp;ei=5090&amp;amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;amp;emc=rss&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&amp;quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama often makes reference to his &amp;quot;two decades of experience&amp;quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political views ==&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&amp;quot;.]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's views on [[gun control]] is focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;David Kopel, &amp;quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&amp;quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &amp;quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&amp;quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.&lt;br /&gt;
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After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has said, &amp;quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &amp;quot;an age-appropriate manner&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&amp;quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way.  In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.&lt;br /&gt;
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Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'.  Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &amp;quot;There you go, you can take it from the president of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&amp;quot; Obama said &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mccain/] Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &amp;quot;John McCain's president, George W. Bush&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Foreign policy experience ==&lt;br /&gt;
In his presidential campaign, Obama bragged&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that &amp;quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&amp;quot; and then cited &amp;quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&amp;quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other kids in Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
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While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religious affiliations==&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama and his wife (reared a Baptist) have been active members since 1988 at the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago. The church embraces black liberation theology and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. &lt;br /&gt;
In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blames the media and not the rhetoric on display &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{QuoteBox|“It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;}}  Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &amp;quot;G-d damn America&amp;quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&amp;quot;}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment.  &lt;br /&gt;
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{{QuoteBox|In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist that she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well. Moreover, as a child I rarely came in contact with those who might offer a substantially different view of faith. My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Published criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &amp;quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &amp;quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &amp;quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&amp;quot; on the campaign trail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &amp;quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Birth Certificate Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
There has been some controversy over the authenticity of Obama's birth certificate and his Constitutional eligibility to hold the office of President.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as &lt;br /&gt;
authentic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, an analyst at the Israel Insider website, has concluded based on a photographic analysis of the document that the birth certificate has been altered and is likely not Obama's true birth certificate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The site stated, &amp;quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&amp;quot;  In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number.  The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &amp;quot;dual loyalties&amp;quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of &amp;quot;multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries&amp;quot; remains on the table. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/08/22/msm-ignores-democrat-lawsuit-against-obama MSM Ignores Democrat Lawsuit Against Obama] Newsbusters.org, August 22, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and put the matter to rest, they seek to have the lawsuit dismissed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/09/29/fight-smears-website-admits-obama-was-kenyan-citizen-wheres-msm 'Fight the Smears' Website Admits Obama was Kenyan Citizen: Where's the MSM?] NewsBusters.org, September 29, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The_Honorable_James_David_Manning]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Black_Liberation_Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Sources==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://obama.senate.gov/about/ Official Senate Website]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
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