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		<title>Zeitgeist: The Movie</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Zeitgeist: The Movie''' is an [[Antiamericanism|anti-American]] [[schlockumentary]] by [[Peter Joseph]]. The film argues that the [[9/11 Truther Movement|government was behind the September 11 attacks]] and that the American government is making war for oil (like the [[War in Iraq]]). Another thing is that the US plans to construct a world government.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Schlockumentary]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Propaganda]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Movies]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Nuclear Energy</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* Theory */ E=ms2 is liberal claptrap. Accounting for that.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Nuclear energy''' is [[energy]] gained from the destruction of subatomic particles during nuclear fission or fusion. The main uses of nuclear technology is in nuclear reactors, which use the energy in an atom to create power, or nuclear weapons, which use the energy in warfare. There are two types of reactions, nuclear fission and nuclear fusion.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energy.jpg|thumb|350px|left|a significant share of U.S. energy is nuclear]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Theory==&lt;br /&gt;
Some people argue that the energy released from a nuclear fission device is given by the nonsensical, [[liberal claptrap]] equation [[E=mc²]]. Spelled out, the energy of a physical system is equal to the system's mass multiplied by the speed of light squared. (In [[natural units]], the equation would be simplified to ''E''=''m''.)  This equation is the formula for the energy contained in an atom. This energy is released in a nuclear weapon when a speeding [[neutron]] collides with the atom, blasting it apart, and releasing the binding energy of the atom. In a nuclear weapon, the atom blasted apart then releases other neutrons which collide with other atoms. This keeps occurring until there are no atoms left to destroy. This is known as a nuclear chain reaction. In a nuclear fission power plant, however, the nuclear core is designed so that a runaway chain reaction cannot occur, by limiting the number of neutrons available to continue the reaction by the use of control rods&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nucene/control.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Nuclear fusion, on the other hand, is based on putting atoms together, as opposed to breaking them apart in fission, heavier atoms often require less bonding energy than the combined original binding energies of the fusing lighter atoms.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Weapon==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hiroshima Nuke.gif|thumb|left|Nuclear &amp;quot;mushroom cloud&amp;quot; at Hiroshima, Japan]]&lt;br /&gt;
A nuclear weapon is a weapon designed with a nuclear warhead. Nuclear weapons not only produce mass devastation in the blast radius, but also create a nuclear fallout for many years to come. Recently, there has been much fear of a terrorist state or organization getting hold of either a [[Soviet]] weapon or creating one of their own.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nuclear fission based weapons occur by the nuclear chain reaction system, while thermonuclear weapons create nuclear fusion in their reaction.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Power==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nuclear Power Plant.jpg|thumb|right|Nuclear power plant]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nuclear fission has existed for power over fifty years, starting with the [[Manhattan Project]]. It currently supplies electricity to many of the nations of the world. The nuclear industry was booming in the 1960's and 1970's, but political opposition stopped nuclear construction in the USA. There is talk of renewing construction because it is the cleanest and cheapest source of large quantities of power, it doesn't depend on Mideast oil, and it doesn't emit greenhouse gases.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nuclear fusion has been sought vigorously as a clean energy source, but the end result in every try has been less energy resulting in the reaction than was put into it. Nevertheless, several countries still invest heavily in nuclear fusion energy programs in the hope that someday they may become viable.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Controversy==&lt;br /&gt;
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An environmentalist's ideal energy is one that emits no greenhouse gasses and is efficient. Nuclear energy is not only competitive with coal energy, but by an environmentalist standards, &amp;quot;cleaner.&amp;quot; Environmentalists claim that they want the cleanest, most efficient energy source, but despise domestic nuclear energy use while at the same time ardently support Iran obtaining nuclear energy. This negates any validity they had towards nuclear energy being unsafe. H.R. 391 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h391/show&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; would amend the Clean Air Act of 1963 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to not allow congress to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. This would make the energy industry more competitive. As all free market economists know, the product of competition is lower prices at better quality, ultimately benefiting the American people the most.&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently, many liberal American politicians have renewed their efforts to scale back nuclear power in the US; liberal pundits have similarly pushed for the elimination of nuclear power in the US despite the lack of greenhouse gas output from this power source. Several nations (e.g. Germany) have set down plans to entirely eliminate nuclear power in the coming decades. The argument has been put forth that the US and other countries should replace nuclear power production with presumably safer &amp;quot;renewable&amp;quot; power sources (i.e. wind and solar power); however, nuclear power is in general very safe and these alternative power sources fail to provide baseload power. Thus, the elimination of nuclear power, in addition to eliminating a clear power source, will likely cause massive problems in the electrical infrastructure of these countries and potentially the US if the current sentiment regarding nuclear power in the US does not change. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Damage Dai Ichi Power Plant Japan.jpg|thumb|center|450px|Damaged Dai Ichi Power Plant, [[Japan]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[category:Energy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Physics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Young mass murderers</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* May have rebelled against his parents' belief in Christianity and their opposition to violent video games.  */ new section&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==&amp;quot;Mass Murder&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
This is a very strong term, and here, it seems to be used disturbingly broadly, so what's the exact definition? Does suicide count into the &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot;? Is somebody who kills himself and one other person a mass murderer? --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 15:21, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, apparently, &amp;quot;mass murder&amp;quot; now also means &amp;quot;wounding and intending to kill many people&amp;quot; since Andy reverted my edit. I won't bother to make additional edits to this. Already got a warning block for this (among other things, like the high crime of cleaning up Conservative's mess), so whatever. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 16:55, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yes, the title is awkward, but we know what it means. I'm open to suggestions and can &amp;quot;move&amp;quot; the article to a new title if a better one can be found. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;but we know what it means&amp;quot; - Ed, I'm glad that you (or Andy) weren't around when Britannica or other encyclopedias were looking for editors. Since this article is in the mainspace and thus a part of an ''encyclopedia'' (and since there is no article text giving this table any context), the headline has to be correct and not some wishy-washy &amp;quot;Yeah, I know it's wrong, but it sounds great!&amp;quot; placeholder.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I would vote for a move to Andy's userspace since the entire point of this &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;article&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; table is to give Andy a more convenient way of mocking liberals (&amp;quot;Liberal response: Poem comparing it to environmental harm&amp;quot; - Gosh, other people call that &amp;quot;victims trying to deal with a tragedy&amp;quot;, but hey, whatever works to make a cheap point!) and casting tragedies into a light that makes me doubt that the table is supposed to be more than satire (&amp;quot;Belief: wore black entirely&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Belief: targeted Christmas shoppers&amp;quot; - I feel like I'm reading The Onion.).&lt;br /&gt;
:::To be honest, I don't see much encyclopedic value in this table. Especially not in its current form with the columns and &amp;quot;beliefs&amp;quot; mentioned above. If we cut out the &amp;quot;Liberal response&amp;quot; column, clean up the last column, find all sorts of sources, and write an entire article around the table, then we could move it to &amp;quot;List of school shootings&amp;quot; or something (which in turn might be a candidate for a category instead of a dedicated article).&lt;br /&gt;
:::But that is somewhat like trying to rebuild a car when you just start with one damaged wheel: Sure, you could repair the wheel and then build a car around it, but why not just build a car in a more logical order (starting with a motor or chassis)?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Maybe move the table to some workbench outside the mainspace and see if people are dedicated enough to tinker with it. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 17:35, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jenkins, I didn't read through all of your long-winded comments above.  But as I said on your talk page, a Wiki is for ''adding'' and/or ''improving'' information, not deleting it. If you can improve, then do so, but don't delete information and serve the role of a censor.  Go to [[Wikipedia]] to do that, where censors delete [[conservative]] information daily.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:43, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy, why do you even reply when you didn't read my post? Words fail me. Not even going to bother replying to your completely messed-up idea of improving the wiki (&amp;quot;You must not remove information added by me, no matter how little it has to do with the title&amp;quot;). Oh, and thanks for blocking me for cleaning up the mess caused by one of your High Quality Editors and accusing me of censorship. That sure motivates me! --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 17:57, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;wore black entirely,&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ROUND UP THE NUNS!!!! I THINK SISTER MARY ELLEN IS PACKING HEAT!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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What about ninjas?  They wear all black, and we know they're bad.  Black = evil.&lt;br /&gt;
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Does this make pirates the agents of the almighty? They ARE the Ninja's sworn enemy, after all...&lt;br /&gt;
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and Italian widows.&lt;br /&gt;
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equating black with evil makes nuns and ministers evil ? thats not correct. Does lead one to wonder why black was selected especially as Nuns are the brides of christ , maybe white is a real challange laundry wise.  [[User:Markr|Markr]] 13:50, 21 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Young mass murderers==&lt;br /&gt;
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What is the criteria?  Under 30?  Under 25?  And does a shooting in December qualify the murderer as anti-Christian? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 09:17, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, does one poem someone wrote on a blog really count as a response for all liberals?  Or just one person? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 16:59, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: That was the official Virginia Tech poem.  It's probably somewhere on the Virginia Tech now, as it was after the tragedy.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:03, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: What is the cutoff for &amp;quot;young&amp;quot;?  It's the same definition as for anything else.  Still in school, or out of school and less than, say, 21.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:03, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::So then the VA Tech guy ''doesn't'' count then?  He was 23. [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 18:44, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Dude, where's your logic?  Of course the [[Virginia Tech killer]] satisfies the definition of &amp;quot;young&amp;quot;.  Please read it again, and apply logic this time.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:47, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::By your &amp;quot;logic&amp;quot;, [http://www.bsu.edu/news/article/0,1370,-1019-9169,00.html Constance Clark] would have been a &amp;quot;young mass murderer&amp;quot; if she had gone on a killing spree during her last university year (at age '''50'''). It somehow appears as if you're deliberately setting the goalposts to include all students while still pretending to only focus on young ones.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Do I regard a 23 old man as &amp;quot;young&amp;quot;? Not really. He's old enough to drink, drive and vote (just not in that order, please...), so calling him &amp;quot;young&amp;quot; is misleading. --[[User:Jenkins|Jenkins]] 19:54, 8 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==A Growing Problem?==&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, you said on the Main Talk Page that, &amp;quot;''...this problem is growing: there were 4 mass murders...in 2007. How many will there be in 2008?''&amp;quot;  I'm afraid that's not accurate--there's been a fairly steady number of such incidents for at least a decade.  Googling &amp;quot;school shootings&amp;quot; will bring up various timelines going back years with much fodder for this article.  --[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:23, 9 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's certainly been growing since the mid 90s, though. There was a wave of school shootings in 1997-1999, and copycat incidents have happened since. I just wrote a paper for my college class using statistics from 1995, and the writers then were arguing that school violence was relatively rare. And it certainly wasn't as much of a threat in the 1970s. It's growing, even though there may be variance year to year. [[User:DanH|DanH]] 14:24, 9 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yes, absolutely.  I wonder, too, how much of the sense of a &amp;quot;growing&amp;quot; problem is a function of the greater availability of news via the Internet, which started hitting its stride in the mid-90s.  A lot of the &amp;quot;lesser&amp;quot; pre-Net incidents might be buried out of public attention in local papers.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:57, 9 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: No, I think it is a growing problem.  I've heard the claims that it was constant or even declining from the 1970s (Vietnam Era) through Columbine (1999), but I think that's outdated now.  4+ big incidents in one year (2007), totaling 50 dead and many injured, plus numerous arrests including some yesterday for foiled attempts, is more than any time in 30 years, I think.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:12, 9 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Colorado killer ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The Colorado killer does not meet the previous definition of young:  &amp;quot;Still in school, or out of school and less than, say, 21.&amp;quot;  Besides, he was a Christian-hater too.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:16, 10 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A &amp;quot;very, very religious&amp;quot; Christian who hates Christians?  That's a new one on me.  The young man was clearly troubled, but I don't think you've shown that he hated Christians specifically, so much as he bore a grudge against the Missionary program from which he was ejected.  [[User:SSchultz|SSchultz]] 21:43, 10 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The point was that he was homeschooled. When a Public Schooler goes on a mass killing spree its '''solely''' because he went to a public school. When a homeschooler goes on a killing spree its '''most certainly not''' because of his flawless education and values. [[User:MarcusCicero|MarcusCicero]] 21:50, 10 December 2007 (EST) P.S- Just above, you also say the V Tech killer meets the definition of young. At least attempt to find logical consistency.&lt;br /&gt;
==VT==&lt;br /&gt;
Saying that the VT poem merely compared the tragedy to environmental harm is disingenuous as it is a gross understatement - more should be added to that. Regardless however, the poem had no political motivations - it was logic - unless someone here thinks that elephants DESERVE to be massacred for ivory. &amp;quot;Damn those darn elephants -they cheat in a poker games&amp;quot;--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 22:03, 10 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Asa Coon==&lt;br /&gt;
Why is Asa Coon on here? Since when is suicide mass murder?--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 09:59, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Attempted murder ... 4 times, followed by killing himself, which is also a type of murder.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:06, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Oh ok - sorry I missed the number of injured - my mistake.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 14:01, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I'm not a communist or anything but I really don't understand how you can class a suicide as mass murder. Surely if this is the case the list would be somewhat longer than eight entries. [[User:RedDog|RedDog]] 13:32, 16 February 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ummm...Mr. Schlafly? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly reverted my edit about the latest one concerning public schools, and....may I ask why? It seemed a logical followup to what was said. --[[User:JMarks|JMarks]] 23:01, 9 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reverts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why were Jeff Weise and Kip Kinkell removed? '''[[user:FernoKlump|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;FernoKlump&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:FernoKlump/petition|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#bd2433&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Look at this petition!]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:55, 16 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marc Lépine ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why does Aschlafly keep trying to remove Marc Lepine?--[[User:DamianSuarez|DamianSuarez]] 10:54, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: As I stated clearly, Marc had been in the workforce and was not a &amp;quot;young mass murderer.&amp;quot;  Also, the description for his views is misleading because it lacks hsi religious background.  See, e.g., [http://www.volokh.com/posts/1142399687.shtml Volokh Blog].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:17, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He was also still in school and is younger than another entry on this list. His views were that he hated feminism. How is this misleading? If you don't believe me, read his suicide note.--[[User:DamianSuarez|DamianSuarez]] 11:38, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Forgive the mistakes, I had 15 minutes to write this. See also Annex.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Would you note that if I commit suicide today 89-12-06 it is not for economic reasons (for I have waited until I exhausted all my financial means, even refusing jobs) but for political reasons. Because I have decided to send the feminists, who have always ruined my life, to their Maker. For seven years life has brought me no joy and being totally blasé, I have decided to put an end to those viragos.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I tried in my youth to enter the Forces as an officer cadet, which would have allowed me possibly to get into the arsenal and precede Lortie in a raid. They refused me because antisocial (sic). I therefore had to wait until this day to execute my plans. In between, I continued my studies in a haphazard way for they never really interested me, knowing in advance my fate. Which did not prevent me from obtaining very good marks despite my theory of not handing in work and the lack of studying before exams.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if the Mad Killer epithet will be attributed to me by the media, I consider myself a rational erudite that only the arrival of the Grim Reaper has forced to take extreme acts. For why persevere to exist if it is only to please the government. Being rather backward-looking by nature (except for science), the feminists have always enraged me. They want to keep the advantages of women (e.g. cheaper insurance, extended maternity leave preceded by a preventative leave, etc.) while seizing for themselves those of men.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Thus it is an obvious truth that if the Olympic Games removed the Men-Women distinction, there would be Women only in the graceful events. So the feminists are not fighting to remove that barrier. They are so opportunistic they neglect to profit from the knowledge accumulated by men through the ages. They always try to misrepresent them every time they can. Thus, the other day, I heard they were honoring the Canadian men and women who fought at the frontline during the world wars. How can you explain then that women were not authorized to go to the frontline??? Will we hear of Caesar's female legions and female galley slaves who of course took up 50% of the ranks of history, though they never existed. A real Casus Belli.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry for this too brief letter.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Marc Lépine&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::A list of names follows, with this note attached:--[[User:DamianSuarez|DamianSuarez]] 11:38, 31 July 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;Nearly died today. The lack of time (because I started too late) has allowed these radical feminists to survive.&lt;br /&gt;
Alea Jacta Est.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Rename?==&lt;br /&gt;
It seems to me this article needs to be renamed, without the &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; in the title. Someone who murders one person (Kimveer Gill) or just himself (Asa Coon) can't really be said to be a &amp;quot;mass murderer&amp;quot; by any sense of the definition. Maybe &amp;quot;Attempted mass murderers&amp;quot; or just &amp;quot;murderers&amp;quot;, or some other adjective, for accuracy's sake. [[User:Fyezall|Fyezall]] 12:05, 26 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: perhaps just remove the few who didnt kill more than 1 ?&lt;br /&gt;
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== Teach Marksmanship ! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I find that comment incredibly distasteful (not that i lost any friends in these attacks) but never the less, spare a thought for the parents and friends of the victims - would they like to hear that comment? (just my opinion - nothing personal) ---- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:PhilipV|PhilipV]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:PhilipV|'' I Support our Troops!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:58, 31 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tim Kretschmer was &amp;quot;indicative of anti-Christianity&amp;quot;? ==&lt;br /&gt;
In the article it is said that Tim Kretschmer was &amp;quot;indicative of anti-Christianity&amp;quot;. I haven't found any evidence for that proposition. I also asked for a reference but my edit was reverted. I guess that he was kind of atheist, but some reference would be appreciated. I have been actively looking for it but I haven't found. So to someone who doesn't have such a presupposition, it can be quite hard to believe without a reference. So if someone has a reference, please add it. --[[User:Erkkimon|Erkkimon]] 18:21, 13 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;I haven't found any evidence for that proposition&amp;quot; may mean you haven't yet opened your mind to it.  Atheists censor disclosure of the harm they cause, but that doesn't prevent the use of logic.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:22, 13 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You're trying to say that I haven't opened my mind to a proposition that atheists are behind these mass murders? I'm not sure if I understood right. But if I did understand right, I want to tell you that I'm quite sure that Kretschmer is also an atheist, because I have analyzed the school mass murders in Finland quite deeply. [http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fapologetiikkawiki.org%2FKoulumassamurhat&amp;amp;sl=fi&amp;amp;tl=en This article] is mainly written by me and it should prove that I have opened my mind to the idea of mass murdering atheists. But you have to understand that we can't just guess. It doesn't prove anything. So I'll ask again. Is there any proof, that is not just a claim, that Tim Kretschmer was an atheist or naturalist or anti-semitist or anti-christian? --[[User:Erkkimon|Erkkimon]] 20:48, 13 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Wearing all black as a teenager is suggestive of anti-Christian beliefs.  Other examples in this entry illustrate that.  I welcome more evidence, but am not going to play dumb amid [[liberal denial]] by others.&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Your entry that you link above takes a small step towards the truth, yet ignores how deadly anti-Christian animus is, and how many self-described atheists suffer from it.  It's not a mental illness, but a belief system that results from being misled.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:42, 15 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18390116/detail.html] Derik A. Bonestroo, age 24.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;He (the suspect) barged in and wanted to know who was a Christian and who wasn't a Christian,&amp;quot; said Sheriff Joe Pelle.&amp;quot; [[User:CCalloway|CCalloway]] 14:14, 15 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: That's not even close to the level of the examples here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:34, 15 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::He killed himself, a Catholic man, and a cat. That puts him above Asa Coon's kill count, and, depending on how you count the cat, above or equal to Kimveer Gill's kill count. [[User:CCalloway|CCalloway]] 14:59, 15 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: We don't count cats as humans, and you're ignoring the huge disparity in numbers wounded.  Also, a working 24-year-old who is no longer a student is not considered &amp;quot;young&amp;quot;.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:01, 15 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: I didn't suggest you counted cats as humans. Asa Coon wounded four, Bonestroo wounded a deputy and killed a Catholic man. That's not that far out of scale. You've got one example of similar age on the page, and one that is three years older. Why are you so opposed to this entry? [[User:CCalloway|CCalloway]] 15:07, 15 March 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: The suggested addition is not even close to the level of the current examples.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 07:54, 11 June 2009 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we need a column with the liberal response? While I am all for outing the liberals for their ignorance and hypocrisy, it seems a bit extraneous alongside this particular article. I must say, though, this article is extremely well done! I especially like the &amp;quot;beliefs&amp;quot; column. Where else can I find that? Not anywhere in the mainstream media! It's good to see that we care about the truth. [[User:Krazor|Krazor]] 13:33, 4 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for pointing out the uniqueness of this entry.  But the extra column about &amp;quot;liberal response&amp;quot; is also informative, is it not?  It's an eye-opener as well.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:59, 4 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: I must say, it truly is. Thank you for taking the time to respond, Mr. Schlafly! May God give you peace! [[User:Krazor|Krazor]] 20:46, 6 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Asa Coon and Kimveer Gill ==&lt;br /&gt;
Most criminologists refer to mass murder as &amp;quot;the killing of four or more people in a single event&amp;quot; despite the fact that mass murder was their goal, they do not, in fact meet that criteria. I would suggest making a a seperate page on school shootings. Anyway, in the meanwhile, I am going to remove them from this list as they don't meet the criteria.--[[User:WilliamMc|WilliamMc]] 10:22, 18 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Don't do that, but do contribute your thoughts to our [[mass murder]] article. Thanks in advance for your cooperation. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:23, 18 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest moving the page to &amp;quot;Mass murderers&amp;quot;. Nothing about the age of the murderer has anything to do with their motivations. What matters is the environment that led to these terrible acts. By making &amp;quot;young&amp;quot; a requirement, we're either going to be misleading (like potentially inferring that Amy Bishops was a young woman) or incomplete (by omitting mass murderers like Amy Bishops because she wasn't young). Let's keep Conservapedia both accurate and complete and move the page. Thanks, [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 09:44, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps it would be best to merge with [[Mass murder]]? [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 09:47, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No, the age is relevant, and it was their beliefs that DID matter very much.  And where did they get those beliefs at their young age?  You'll see that many in school and on the internet propagate such disastrous belief systems.  For every one who goes on a murderous rampage, there are hundreds or thousands who suffer mentally and emotionally to lesser extents ... due to their belief system.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:15, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Please, Mr. Schlafly, reconsider my request. Mistakenly implying that Bishop was young is misleading. Intentionally doing so is deceitful. You have stated that the criteria for young is nowhere near Bishop's 54 years of age. I know you will open your mind and make the right choice to improve the accuracy of Conservapedia. How about &amp;quot;publicly schooled mass murderers&amp;quot;? Thank you, [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 10:21, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Amy Bishop began killing at what, age 19?  If you like, you can add a footnote explaining that her rampage continued until age 54.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::More generally, your objection is nit-picky to the point of the absurd.  Diluting the entire entry is not the way to handle one caveat.  Please open your mind for the important information conveyed by the entry:  what kids are taught, and what they believe, ''does'' matter.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:07, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::A wise man once said, &amp;quot;I don't want to perpetuate this debate, but I don't want a lack of response to be misinterpreted&amp;quot;. Bishop was not 19 when she killed her brother. Bishop has not been convicted of murder for the killing of her brother and you know that you don't know if it was in fact murder. You have seemingly ignored yet endorsed my point that what people are taught is what matters, which is why the article would undoubtedly be more accurate if it were &amp;quot;publicly schooled mass murderers&amp;quot;. Can you deny this? You can name call it nitpicking, I call it what it is: factual accuracy. [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 11:19, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Jeff, are you debating this matter, in a liberal vs. conservative way, or are you trying to improve the article? If it's the latter, please stick to the point and avoid personal remarks such as, &amp;quot;Intentionally doing so is deceitful.&amp;quot; First, last, and only warning. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:03, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Good point, Ed.  Jeff, how old was Bishop when she killed her brother?  You say that &amp;quot;Bishop was not 19 when she killed her brother.&amp;quot;  Then you seem to deny that she killed him at all, which would be false.  Moreover, your suggested title of &amp;quot;public schooled mass murderers&amp;quot; would not be as precise for all the entries as &amp;quot;young mass murderers.&amp;quot;  Simply put, your suggestion introduces more inaccuracies then it would allegedly repair.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:20, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Mr. Schlafly, you are mistaken.  I did not deny that Bishop killed her brother. Please focus on these three simple questions: Do you deny that you are in no position to rule the killing of Seth Bishop a murder? Do you deny that Bishop is not a young woman? Do you deny that public schooling was more important than age in these murders? Thanks, [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 12:58, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Jeff, please first answer my simple question (and correct your misstatements, if necessary).  Was Bishop 19 when she killed her brother, or what age was she?  You expressly claimed she was not 19.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:16, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I am glad to answer your question. According to [http://newinfo.uah.edu/news/newspages/campusnews.php?id=172 bio] she was born 4/24/65. The killing occurred on 12/6/86 according to various sources. That would make her over 21. I await your answers to my questions. Thanks, [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 13:36, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I wonder why you emphasized that Bishop was not 19 when she killed her brother, if she was merely slightly older.  In response to your questions, &amp;quot;Do you deny that you are in no position to rule the killing of Seth Bishop a murder?&amp;quot;  I would not, and did not, attempt to &amp;quot;rule&amp;quot; on anything.  But Bishop's killing of her brother (and her conduct immediately afterward) is highly suggestive of murder.  Do you deny that?  Second question, &amp;quot;Do you deny that Bishop is not a young woman?&amp;quot;  Bishop first killed when she was a young woman, and then while still in her 20s was a suspect in the attempted murder of a professor who was critical of her.  No, she's not particularly young now.  Third question, &amp;quot;Do you deny that public schooling was more important than age in these murders?&amp;quot;  Public schooling is a big part of the problem.  But this entry focuses on a particular type of murder, and the common thread is more than the fact that most or all went to public school.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:15, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::This entry focuses on a particular type of murder, and the common thread is more than the fact that most or all were young. I wish we could agree on that and follow my original suggestion of moving the article to &amp;quot;mass murderers&amp;quot;. [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 15:21, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::You protest too much.  Your real objection seems to be with the numerous examples, but the facts speak for themselves and we're here to tell the facts.  Wikipedia is better for those who want to conceal or deny facts.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:07, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::I have verified that every person on this list went to public school. Your claim that the change to &amp;quot;publicly schooled mass murderers&amp;quot; would cause more problems than it solved was a falsehood, as there is not even an exception, unlike the nebulous criterion of youth. Ironically, Manson also went to public school and committed mass murder in his thirties (unlike Bishop who was in her fifties). I'm here to set facts straight and you cannot deny that Amy Bishop did not commit mass murder as a young woman without loosing all credibility.  I sense your patience is wearing thin, so i shall try to improve other articles. [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 16:22, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Jeff, if you feel there is evidence that young mass murderers in the US have been influenced by public schools, why not add that to the article? We can decide later on a page move, which is just an administrative function. Editorial integrity comes first, don't you think? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:41, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I completely agree, Ed. Unfortunately, after making changes after Andy and I agreed that we could not rule Seth Bishop's killing a murder and that the article was about a particular type of murder (not killing), the article was locked. [[User:JeffT|JeffT]] 16:47, 16 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Try taking a more cooperative or humble tone, and you'll find other writers more comfortable with your suggestions. Also, your claim, &amp;quot;Bishop was not 19 when she killed her brother,&amp;quot; is contradicted by the 2nd of the two articles I just now googled up. &lt;br /&gt;
::*Before Bishop, who was 19 at the time, could be booked the police chief back then called officers and told them to release her to her mother ... [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/13/amy-bishop-killed-brother_n_461512.html]&lt;br /&gt;
::Who was it who said that we are entitled to our opinions, but not to our own set of facts? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:52, 17 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Encyclopaedia Britannica defines ''serial killing'' as the ''the unlawful homicide of at least two people, carried out in a series over a period of time. Although this definition was established in the United States, it has been largely accepted in Europe and elsewhere, but the crime is not formally recognized in any legal code, including that of the United States. '''Serial murder is distinguished from mass murder, in which several victims are murdered at the same time and place.''' ''&lt;br /&gt;
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On this very talk page, Aschlafly defines ''young'': ''What is the cutoff for &amp;quot;young&amp;quot;? It's the same definition as for anything else. Still in school, or out of school and less than, say, 21.--Aschlafly 17:03, 8 December 2007 (EST) ''&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeffrey Dahmer]] was 18 when he killed his first victim. Does this make him a ''young mass murderer''? &lt;br /&gt;
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That said, I think that A. Bishop is a mass murderer '''and''' a serial killer. She just isn't a ''young'' mass murderer. Generally, it doesn't make sense to speak about a ''young serial killer'' - at least not if his murders happened over an extended period of time.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Couple things.  First, in my opinion, this article should have a title reflective of the fact that these individuals had a personal ideology which was against God or against American values in some degree.  It should contain just those people regardless of age.&lt;br /&gt;
:Second, you have to put mass murderers in a proper context no matter who they are.  Amy Bishop was not a &amp;quot;serial killer&amp;quot;; prior to the UAH incident she is on record of killing one person, and it has been dismissed as an accident; we have to list it as an accident until proven otherwise.  John List killed off his entire family in 1971; he was pro-God and a devout Lutheran.  This keeps him out of this article but it still makes him every bit a mass murderer as the others.  The same with Charles Whitman, who killed 14 at the University of Texas in Austin; a brain tumor was found to have played a role in his case.&lt;br /&gt;
:Third, we have to know the differences between a mass murderer, a serial killer, and a spree killer.  A mass murderer kills multiple people at one location and at one time (James Huberty, Richard Speck, Columbine killers, etc).  A serial killer kills total strangers at differing locations, at different times, with a &amp;quot;cooling-off&amp;quot; period between murders, and usually with a personal gratification (John Gacy, Ted Bundy, Richard Ramirez).  A spree killer kills people at random in a disorganized manner during a short period of time (Andrew Cunanan, Beltway sniper, Virgina Tech killer).  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:28, 18 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::But at the moment, the article is titled ''young mass murderers''. For me, it seems to be more of an essay, as it has a clear intention, namely to show&lt;br /&gt;
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::Due to the somewhat arcane selection of examples as to be seen on this talk page, it only makes the point&lt;br /&gt;
:::'''liberal mass murderers are liberals.'''&lt;br /&gt;
::There are a couple of ways to solve this:&lt;br /&gt;
::#keep the title and include all young mass murderers. In this case, at least the name of Amy Bishop has to be dropped&lt;br /&gt;
::#change the title according to Karajou's proposal to something like ''liberal mass murderers''.In this case, the question will arise whether there should be an article on ''unliberal mass murderers''.&lt;br /&gt;
::#follow JeffT's wishes and move the article to ''public schooled mass murderers''. As there are comparatively few home schoolers, this seems not to be a such a good option - it's like writing an article on ''Chinese murderers in Bejing''&lt;br /&gt;
::#name the article ''mass murderers'', make a short introduction that it isn't about [[genocide]] and [[terrorist attacks]] - and include ''all'' examples, even those mentioned by Karajou. Perhaps the entries could be color-coded according to their belief system?&lt;br /&gt;
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PhilG, you can put the ages in a footnote for each, but it's too much trivia to obscure the text with.  If you want to suggest counterexamples who fit the criteria of the entry, feel free to do so here.  I doubt you'll find many.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:58, 19 February 2010 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry, I saw your note about Breivik being too old for the list, but I see Amy Bishop is 46. I'm not sure what the criteria are for inclusion? [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 11:44, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::She allegedly committed her first murder at a much younger age.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 12:55, 23 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Breivik was 32, hardly &amp;quot;young&amp;quot;. Is there and age cut off or should we change the title of the page? [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 16:41, 24 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your point is excellent, but perhaps Breivik was immature for his age.  I doubt we'd include anyone older on this list.  To some extent, maturity matters more than age.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:41, 24 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well I am 32 and don't consider myself young! [[User:MaxFletcher|MaxFletcher]] 18:54, 24 July 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Aschlafly, immediately after you had reverted my edit at [[Young mass murderers]], I tried to comment on this talk page. But I had to read ''The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Administrators, edit.'', and so I gave up after two hours of trying.&lt;br /&gt;
*How can it be more important to know that Breivik was '''possibly''' influenced by the esthetics of World-of-Warcraft II than that he was '''certainly''' driven by his hate for Muslims? &lt;br /&gt;
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:I have taken the liberty of replacing the term &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot; with &amp;quot;nationalistic&amp;quot; because it appears more appropriate for Breivic.  Placing his idiotic, thuggish brand of politics anywhere on the political scale is unfair and serves only as an emotive term or perhaps a wolf whistle.  It is analogous to calling the Nazi's left wing or right wing - they don't really fit anywhere on a political scale.  (And have I found an exception to  Godwin's Law?)  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 02:57, 29 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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@Aschlafly: ''Muslims were not victims of Breivik'' so what? His ideology and motivations are well known (unlike his preferences for video-game aesthetics, btw), and his hatred of Muslims played a big part in his pathological weltanschauung. Amy Bishop is described as ''a far-left political extremist'', though she didn't kill conservatives! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:06, 29 February 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, you complain that the ''liberal media'' ignore his video-gaming and show him as a fundamentalist Christian. But he invested far more time into his far-right fantasies than into video-gaming. You may think of him as the exception which proves the point, but he himself stresses his far-right positions - and his hate for Muslims.  Why do you want to suppress   this information? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:27, 20 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There's no evidence he was a Bible-thumping churchgoer, and his murderous rampage was similar to violent video game fantasies that played.  There's nothing &amp;quot;right-wing&amp;quot; about it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:30, 20 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''far-right ideologue, was driven by his hatred of Muslims, his belief that a &amp;quot;Muslim takeover&amp;quot; was imminent and what he saw as &amp;quot;cultural Marxism&amp;quot; and the failure of Norway's ruling liberal party to halt immigration, calling them traitors. http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/07/25/norway-suspect-wants-to-appear-in-court-in-uniform/?test=latestnews''&lt;br /&gt;
::There is nothing about him being a ''Bible-thumping churchgoer''&lt;br /&gt;
::The link confirms the statement. So why not keeping it in? Others are described as ''left wing'' or influenced by ''anti-Christian culture''. &lt;br /&gt;
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You may make any objection you like to the article, its wording or content, but please make such objections '''clear'''. Thanking you in advance ... --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:32, 20 July 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== May have rebelled against his parents' belief in Christianity and their opposition to violent video games.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there any evidence for that, or is that something that someone just pulled out of their rear end? [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 12:40, 22 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Young mass murderers</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Recent increases in tragic mass-murders perpetrated by young individuals have prompted questions about their rationale for doing so.  Below is evidence that their motives have been overwhelmingly [[atheism|atheistic]] or [[liberal]], or driven by hatred of [[God]].  Virtually all of these killers are the product of [[public schools]] and most were big [[video game]] players.  Many of these murders fit the observation by the forensic psychiatrist Dr. Michael Welner about the Connecticut massacre: &amp;quot;This was a crime that was more than a mass shooting. He killed these people like an arcade game.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/northern_suburbs&amp;amp;id=8923831] Dr. Michael Welner appeared on the ''View''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
!Education&lt;br /&gt;
!Killed&lt;br /&gt;
!Wounded&lt;br /&gt;
!Beliefs&lt;br /&gt;
![[Liberal]] response&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Nehemiah Griego&lt;br /&gt;
|Homeschooled &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/n-m-teen-accused-killing-family-quiet-article-1.1243888&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|5, all family&lt;br /&gt;
|None&lt;br /&gt;
|May have rebelled against his parents' belief in [[Christianity]] and their opposition to violent video games. Or he may not have. Who knows?&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberal media continue to clamor for [[gun control]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Adam Lanza&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57559316-504083/connecticut-school-shooting-suspected-shooter-now-idd-as-adam-lanza-older-brother-ryan-questioned-by-cops/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] honors student;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Adam Lanza&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ap-source-suspect-killed-his-mother-at-their-home-before-going-on-school-rampage/2012/12/14/8ee3709e-464f-11e2-8c8f-fbebf7ccab4e_story.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  His mom reportedly considered [[homeschooling]] but apparently chose public school instead.&lt;br /&gt;
|27, including the murderer and 20 children&lt;br /&gt;
|not yet known&lt;br /&gt;
|His &amp;quot;existence ... largely involved playing violent computer video games in a bedroom,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9751240/Connecticut-school-shooting-Adam-Lanzas-mother-thought-guns-would-teach-him-responsibility.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and he &amp;quot;spent hours playing violent video games such as Call Of Duty in a windowless bunker&amp;quot;;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9752141/Connecticut-school-massacre-Adam-Lanza-spent-hours-playing-Call-Of-Duty.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he was &amp;quot;goth&amp;quot; and wore a mask; after the massacre, officers found evidence that he had been playing &amp;quot;graphically violent&amp;quot; video games recently;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://articles.courant.com/2012-12-15/news/hc-adam-lanza-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215_1_law-officers-asperger-semiautomatic-rifle&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Dynasty Warriors&amp;quot; had been one of his favorites in the past&lt;br /&gt;
|not a word by the [[liberal media]] about violent video games, but instead they demand [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Jacob Tyler Roberts is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] and a [[Facebook]] user&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-gunman-wanted-kill-people/story?id=17941415#.UMkG84PHegI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|2, including the murderer&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Played video games (his rampage enacted a scene in ''Grand Theft Auto''); he dressed in black for the murders as other young mass murderers have, and donned a hockey mask perhaps inspired by [[Hollywood]] horror films&lt;br /&gt;
|A day later, authorities and the [[liberal media]] still have disclosed almost nothing about the murderer; instead, [[liberals]] almost immediately demanded more [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|[[James Eagan Holmes‎|James Holmes]] is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|PhD student at [[University of Colorado]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/colorado-shooting-james-holmes_n_1688996.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|12&lt;br /&gt;
|58&lt;br /&gt;
|Like other young mass murderers, dressed in all-black for the killings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was obsessed with playing [[video games]] like &amp;quot;World of Warcraft&amp;quot; (see Breivik below);&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-shooter-guitar-hero-dark-knight/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for the murderous rampage, he dyed his hair bright red presumably to imitate the Joker (Batman's nemesis).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-joker/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/ABC/status/226365875245178880&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[ABC News]] falsely suggests tie to [[Tea Party]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/tea-party-frequent-suspect-for-media/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Liberals call for gun control.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/367020/20120726/james-holmes-court-colorado-shooting-barack-obama.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;T.J. Lane&amp;quot; of the Cleveland area&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57386938/suspect-in-ohio-school-shooting-arrives-at-court/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Posted a chilling rant on [[Facebook]] about two months before his murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|Insists he was a victim of bullying, which several students who knew him denied.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/two-reported-dead-three-injured-in-ohio-school-shooting-20120228&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Anders Behring Breivik&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wect.com/story/15134203/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|public school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;He was 32 years old at the time of the crime.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|68 shot dead at a youth camp of the Norwegian Labor party, another 8 in a bombing of government buildings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2011/07/25/breivik-bought-chemicals-in-poland-security-agency-says/?mod=google_news_blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
|Many continued to be missing after the killing rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|According to the judgement rendered against him, he liked playing violent [[video games]] and saw himself as &amp;quot;ultra-nationalist&amp;quot; who fought against [[Muslim]] immigration and [[Marxist]] subversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://da.scribd.com/doc/103815386/LOVDATA-DOM-toslo-2011-188627-24 Court's judgment in the case against Anders Behring Breivik], Oslo, 24 Aug 2012&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|A typical headline in the [[liberal]] media blames [[fundamentalist]] [[Christianity]], while nearly ignoring his hobby of playing violent video games.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Jared Lee Loughner&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Suspected gunman as identified in the media.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public high school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|6&lt;br /&gt;
|at least 17, including a Congresswoman&lt;br /&gt;
|a [[nihilist]]; &amp;quot;Left wing, quite liberal ... a political radical&amp;quot; and he declared that ''[[The Communist Manifesto]]'', ''[[Animal Farm]]'' and ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' are among his favorite books&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jared-lee-laughners-youtube-site-reveals-clues-about-killer-lists-mein-kampf-and-communist-m&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|It's [[Sarah Palin]]'s fault because nearly one year earlier she had posted targets on 20 congressional districts for Republican wins, and this massacre (by a liberal) occurred in one of those districts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.forbes.com/carolinehoward/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-and-sarah-palins-conscience/ &amp;quot;Gabrielle Giffords' Shooting And Sarah Palin's Conscience.&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Amy Bishop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[professor values|professor]], and daughter of a professor&lt;br /&gt;
|3, + many reporters believe brother in 1986 &lt;br /&gt;
|3, was also a suspect in attempted murder in 1993&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;was a far-left political extremist who was 'obsessed' with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&amp;amp;position=0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|liberals liked her: she &amp;quot;was admired by her peers and loved by her students&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;was a super intelligent person.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100214everybody_described_her_as_gentle/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|Tim Kretschmer&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Germany]] [[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|15 + himself&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Reports were that the police did not mortally wound him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1161139/Are-dead-Police-gun-ex-student-17-targeted-women-German-school-massacre.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|several others&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|Europe calls for more [[gun control]]; [[liberal]] media promotes falsehood: &amp;quot;We'll never know why they kill.&amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/12/greene.shootings/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|Stephen Kazmierczak&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Northern Illinois University]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|16&lt;br /&gt;
|Fan of [[Nietzsche]]'s &amp;quot;The Antichrist,&amp;quot; obsessed with self-injury, was a &amp;quot;cutter&amp;quot; in [[public high school]], wore all black to carry out his massacre, and was still a [[public school]] student at age 27&lt;br /&gt;
|Feigned shock at the fact that the gunman didn't &amp;quot;fit&amp;quot; the typical mold of a killer, when in fact the gunman wore all black and was taught at a [[public school]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Hawkins&lt;br /&gt;
|Papillion-La Vista public high school&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Targeted [[Christmas]] shoppers; wore black; &amp;quot;I can't take this meaningless existence anymore&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.omaha08dec08,0,6053469.story Baltimore Sun]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Told a therapist that &amp;quot;he is not sure if there is a [[God]] or life after death and that when he dies, he'll probably go to hell.&amp;quot; Told social workers he was [[Satan|Satanic]] and acknowledged that he often acted before thinking of the consequences. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318506,00.html Mall Gunman Admitted He was Satanic, Attempted Suicide], [[Associated Press]], [[Fox News Channel]], December 27, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Avoided suggesting [[gun control]] lest [[Democrats]] lose [[West Virginia]] and [[Wisconsin]] in [[2008 presidential election]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Pekka-Eric Auvinen&lt;br /&gt;
|Jokela High School public high school (Finland)&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|About 12&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheist]], &amp;quot;I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Finland]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Seung-Hui Cho]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Westfield public high school (VA), then Virgina Tech public university&lt;br /&gt;
|32 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|25&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Ismail Ax&amp;quot; suggested [[Muslim]] beliefs, felt &amp;quot;[[Jesus]] was crucifying me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Poem comparing it to environmental harm&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Virginia Tech, ''Transcript of Nikki Giovanni's Convocation address'', Delivered April 17, 2007[http://www.vt.edu/remember/archive/giovanni_transcript.html] ''We are Virginia Tech./We are sad today, and we will be sad for quite a while. We are not moving on, we are embracing our mourning./We are Virginia Tech./We are strong enough to stand tall tearlessly, we are brave enough to bend to cry, and we are sad enough to know that we must laugh again./We are Virginia Tech./We do not understand this tragedy. We know we did nothing to deserve it, but neither does a child in Africa dying of AIDS, neither do the invisible children walking the night away to avoid being captured by the rogue army, neither does the baby elephant watching his community being devastated for ivory, neither does the Mexican child looking for fresh water, neither does the Appalachian infant killed in the middle of the night in his crib in the home his father built with his own hands being run over by a boulder because the land was destabilized. No one deserves a tragedy./We are Virginia Tech./The Hokie Nation embraces our own and reaches out with open heart and hands to those who offer their hearts and minds. We are strong, and brave, and innocent, and unafraid. We are better than we think and not quite what we want to be. We are alive to the imaginations and the possibilities. We will continue to invent the future through our blood and tears and through all our sadness./We are the Hokies./We will prevail./We will prevail./We will prevail./We are Virginia Tech.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://americaabroad.tpmcafe.com/blog/oldengoldendecoy/2007/apr/17/nikki_giovanni_we_are_virginia_tech]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Asa Coon&lt;br /&gt;
|SuccessTech public school Academy (Cleveland)&lt;br /&gt;
|Himself&lt;br /&gt;
|4&lt;br /&gt;
|Said he didn't believe in [[God]] and didn't respect [[God]], killed after classmate disagreed; wore black&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1192092117230670.xml&amp;amp;coll=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized because of his anti-[[God]] statements&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kimveer Gill]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Rosemere High School (Quebec)&lt;br /&gt;
|1 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|20&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;I hate [[God]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;I hate religious zealots&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Canada]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2002&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Steinhäuser&lt;br /&gt;
|Erfurt public school (Germany)&lt;br /&gt;
|16 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|Wore black entirely, literally from head to toe; stopped only when a teacher pulled off his black mask&lt;br /&gt;
|[[German]] [[gun control]] already strict, demands for limitations on computer games&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Columbine public high school]] (CO)&lt;br /&gt;
|13 + themselves&lt;br /&gt;
|23&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheistic]], singled out a girl to kill her for believing in [[God]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Demand [[gun control]], causing [[Al Gore]] to lose [[West Virginia]], [[Tennessee]] and [[Arkansas]] in 2000 presidential election&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1998&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden&lt;br /&gt;
|Westside Middle School&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|10&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson, the older of the two, was obsessed with rap lyrics like &amp;quot;coming to school and killing all the kids.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/06/16/entertainment/main11983.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberals blame the guns rather than the killer's obsession with rap music.  Johnson is released at age 21 but is later arrested for new crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1997&lt;br /&gt;
|Michael Carneal&lt;br /&gt;
|Heath public high school (KY)&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Murdered girls as they prayed in a [[prayer]] group; shooting had tell-tale signs it was incited/trained by video games: Carneal never moved his feet during his shootings, and never fired far to the left or right, but instead fired only once at each target that appeared, just as a player of video games maximizes his game score by shooting only once at each victim, in order to hit as many targets as possible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman and Gloria DeGaetano, Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill 75 (1999).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized due to anti-[[Christian]] nature&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1989&lt;br /&gt;
|Marc Lépine, at the École Polytechnique de Montréal&lt;br /&gt;
||Collège d'enseignement général et professionnel, (''College of General and Vocational Education'')&lt;br /&gt;
|14 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|14&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Montreal Coroners Report of the École Polytechnique de Montréal massacre [http://www.diarmani.com/Montreal_Coroners_Report.pdf]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|His religious views were unpublicized but he was raised in a home with an immigrant Muslim father who was allegedly highly critical of the [[feminist]] view of women's role in society; Marc's mother was an ex-nun; and his sister had allegedly committed suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.volokh.com/posts/1142399687.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Allegedly his suicide note reflected anger towards feminists, See [http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_5897.aspx CityNews Rewind: The Montreal Massacre, December 6, 2006]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Ignore the personal background of the killer and instead use the massacre to push for stricter [[gun control]] and more laws concerning violence against women, and establish in [[Canada]] a National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Talk:Sportsman of the Year</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== Complaints ==&lt;br /&gt;
First off the word is &amp;quot;Sportsman&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;Sporstman&amp;quot;. Secondly it has been awarded to conservative athletes that appear on your very own list. Mary Lou Retton 1984 and Curt Schilling 2001. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 18:42, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I truly do not see a lot of bad choices for ''Sportsman of the Year'', with few exceptions.  A good many of them excemplify the 'Sports' portion of the award, for instance Pat Summitt (2011) who became the winningest coach of NCAA Women's College Basketball, all the while battling the opening rounds of dementia.  And in the case of Lance Armstrong, that was before anyone besides himself and a select few knew of his doping.  At the time, he was the winner of the Tour de France, a cancer survivor, and founder of Livestrong.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 19:26, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then why aren't more [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]] among the winners???  Ted Williams wasn't good enough for it???  LeBron James, this past year's winner, is not even the best basketball player, let alone the best athlete.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:01, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Drew Brees also appears on your list and won Sportsman of the Year in 2010. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 20:11, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't buy into any political conspiracy, but I am curious as to why an award that is apparently a world-wide award is so disproportionately given to Americans.  Look at 2005 for instance.  Is there anyone who could with a straight face say that Tom Brady was better than Dan Carter that year?  I doubt it.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 20:17, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Do you really think Annie Oakley, Chuck Norris, Billy Sunday, Ewan Murray, Gavin Peacock, J.C. Watts, Jason Robinson, Michael Jones, and Phillip Rivers would be suitable winners? Face it, man, you've got some pretty obscure figures on your little list. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 20:45, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:My issue with the [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]] and its cousin [[Overrated Sports Stars]] list is that criteria for selection appears to be only known to Andrew Schlafly. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 20:53, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's pretty simple, What Andrew likes is conservative and good. What Andrew does not like is liberal, overrated and bad. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 20:56, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Complaints ==&lt;br /&gt;
First off the word is &amp;quot;Sportsman&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;Sporstman&amp;quot;. Secondly it has been awarded to conservative athletes that appear on your very own list. Mary Lou Retton 1984 and Curt Schilling 2001. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 18:42, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I truly do not see a lot of bad choices for ''Sportsman of the Year'', with few exceptions.  A good many of them excemplify the 'Sports' portion of the award, for instance Pat Summitt (2011) who became the winningest coach of NCAA Women's College Basketball, all the while battling the opening rounds of dementia.  And in the case of Lance Armstrong, that was before anyone besides himself and a select few knew of his doping.  At the time, he was the winner of the Tour de France, a cancer survivor, and founder of Livestrong.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Hello!&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]] 19:26, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then why aren't more [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]] among the winners???  Ted Williams wasn't good enough for it???  LeBron James, this past year's winner, is not even the best basketball player, let alone the best athlete.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:01, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Drew Brees also appears on your list and won Sportsman of the Year in 2010. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 20:11, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't buy into any political conspiracy, but I am curious as to why an award that is apparently a world-wide award is so disproportionately given to Americans.  Look at 2005 for instance.  Is there anyone who could with a straight face say that Tom Brady was better than Dan Carter that year?  I doubt it.  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 20:17, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Do you really think Annie Oakley, Chuck Norris, Billy Sunday, Ewan Murray, Gavin Peacock, J.C. Watts, Jason Robinson, Michael Jones, and Phillip Rivers would be suitable winners? Face it, man, you've got some pretty obscure figures on your little list. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 20:45, 21 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Sportsman of the Year''' is an annual prize given by ''Sports Illustrated'', to [[politically correct]] athletes rather than the [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]].  The exceptions that prove the rule are when an unusual '''''shared''''' prizes were given to Mary Lou Retton in 1984 (before she appeared at a [[Republican National Convention]]) and Curt Schilling in 2001 (before he was outspoken in support of [[Scott Brown]]) and Drew Brees in 2010.&lt;br /&gt;
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Exemplifying the judgment of the [[liberal media]] in selecting Sportsman of the Year was their choice of [[Lance Armstrong]] in 2002.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Sportsman of the Year''' is an annual prize given by ''Sports Illustrated'', to [[politically correct]] athletes rather than the [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]], except when it's not, when they do give it to the athletes on that list, as they did with Mary Lou Retton in 1984 and Curt Schilling in 2001.&lt;br /&gt;
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Exemplifying the judgment of the [[liberal media]] in selecting Sportsman of the Year was their choice of [[Lance Armstrong]] in 2002.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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:Please help as you see fit!  Discuss any major changes on the talk page first. --[[User:JimR|JimR]] 16:17, 9 December 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Alright well first I think the first sentence needs to be restated. Nuclear energy isn't a destruction of subatomic particles. It is created (at least in fission) from the splitting of the atom. In fact the entire introductory statement is too general and too vague. In the theory, there is no discussion of critical mass which is necessary for a sustained fissile reaction. Also it talks about how &amp;quot;the atom blasted apart then releases other neutrons which collide with other atoms. This keeps occurring until there are no atoms left to destroy.&amp;quot; Thats not true at all. The atom is SPLIT into two different elements. These elements can actually undergo a fission reaction again if they are enriched. The part about nuclear power is almost laughable. While it is true that the reaction itself is &amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; in the sense that it has no carbon emissions, there is also radioactive waste. Theses by-products of fission are extremely hazardous and need special containment. What makes nuclear power so attractive as a new energy source is that the amount of energy per unit waste is so high. Also fusion is obtainable and is currently the most common reaction in the universe. All stars in the universe are fusion reactions. It is also worth stating that fusion is preferable to fission because it has no radioactive by products. The product of the deuterium reaction is inert helium. While to date all experiments with fusion have shown that the reaction requires more energy than it retrieved, current research is being done which is coming close to breaking even. Finally, the controversy section is just absurd. It is a remarkably biased statement that offers no sources for its claims. (providing sources about a house bill and the clean air act don't back up the claims made) If you are going to have a controversy section, it must be objective and not give a statement of what seems to be one person's thoughts on the subject. The goal of this page is to present useful information to people and mixing legitimate information with opinion isn't useful for a sight like this. [[USER:Swift|Swifty]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== The energy released from a nuclear fission device is given by the equation E=mc².  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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But that theory is liberal claptrap. This needs to be revised. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 16:48, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;[[Talk:E=mc²/Archive 1|Archive 1]]&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==This article is complete garbage==&lt;br /&gt;
E=mc^2 is only a simplified version created to be understood easier. If people had put dedicated effort for any amount of time, they could find the truth behind it. And &amp;quot;the bible says it's false&amp;quot; does not work, especially since the rest of the world completely agrees with the theory of relativity.&lt;br /&gt;
http://news.discovery.com/space/the-famous-emc2-is-incomplete-gotta-see-video-121030.html&lt;br /&gt;
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:Beware of claims that the rest of the world completely agrees with something.  Unanimously passed legislation is often the very worst kind.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:21, 16 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::But wouldn't unanimously passed legislation be a good example of the [[Best of the Public]]?   [[User:Wonders|Wonders]] 23:31, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I'm Finding This a Little Hard to Understand==&lt;br /&gt;
First off, E = mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; describing a relationship between energy and matter is only one corollary. It is also part of a well known problem in chemistry... Or is isotopic mass not less than the sum of it's parts? The equation itself HAS been derived from the Theory of Relativity, and is a direct consequence of the energy momentum four vector for an object with 0-momentum. The quote you provide from the paper states that the theory is not enough for a rigorous PROOF, but it never tries to deny the derivability of the equation. Derivation and proof are two entirely different things.&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Article Could Use Sources or Better Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
Wow. Classic Andy. Unsourced statements supposedly contradicting well-established theories of physics. No real proof other than &amp;amp;quot;the Bible says it's not true,&amp;amp;quot; even though this is an extremely uncommon interpretation Genesis. --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 01:06, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's a start for now, and will expand over time.  That's how wikis work.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:18, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Doesn't it relate energy to mass? The speed of light is just a constant here. [[User:IanR|IanR]] 02:22, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Humbug ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The phrase ''meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement '' (as used in the article) fits  the first paragraph to a t.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, please try to refute the explanation of the experiments of John Cockroft and Ernest Walton, which is accepted generally under physicists. And try to give some sources - or if not, some of your own calculations!&lt;br /&gt;
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If not, just erase the first section.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:23, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nobel Lecture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I took out the link to the Nobel lecture, it can be found in the short summary. But be aware that John Cockroft is using the dreaded formula with ease (but without stating so explicitly - why should he, it's already generally accepted!) An astute reader, who not only searches for the formula finds e.g., the formulation:&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Indeed, these are the &amp;amp;asymp; 17MeV!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:51, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Irrelevant claims==&lt;br /&gt;
Are these claims of so called &amp;amp;quot;experimental verification&amp;amp;quot; valid or useful?  If you look at enough so-called science you can find people claiming anything. --[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 12:59, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:''you can find people claiming anything'' Indeed - and that's why there is a difference between the unsubstantiated claims in the first section, and the actual experiments in the following paragraphs. If you have a good explanation of the outcome of these experiments (some math would be nice), feel free to add your personal ''claim''.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:03, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why do you feel that I need to do that? I understand that you may wish to believe relativity is true, but that is no reason to impose your personal beliefs on others.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 13:40, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thinking that all claims have the same validity seems not a very conservative position. I don't expect you to accept my personal beliefs, but there is a tendency in physics that the claims which are backed up by those willing to do the experiments and the maths have a greater following than random insights. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:47, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't understand why your personal beliefs are even included in the article.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 13:58, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*Because they are bolstered by experiments...&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*...and they aren't just my beliefs - in fact it will be very hard to find a physicist who doesn't share them. And that's something which shouldn't be easy to ignore in an article on a physical subject.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:02, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If science is your religion then you will find scientists who share your views.  I still don't see why they should be hosted here.  The introduction makes the Biblical position clear.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 14:07, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Religion is my religion, science is my hobby. And just because there is one single interpretation of a few verses of Genesis out there which you think to contradict the experiments of the physicists doesn't shatter my religious beliefs nor my trust in physics. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:35, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Then why do you insist with this anti-religious pseudoscience?--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 14:41, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;larr; Now you have intrigued me: what's your definition of pseudoscience? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:45, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pssst! DavidEdwards! You're trying waaaaay too hard. --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 21:20, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Too hard about what?&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as the pseudoscience question is concerned - &amp;quot;science&amp;quot; which is used to promote a worldview which has no basis in moral reality is pseudoscience.  Science which is designed to suggest that morality is relative clearly falls into this category.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 18:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question==&lt;br /&gt;
This snipet of sentence appears in the introduction: &amp;amp;quot;...''a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.''&amp;amp;quot; Let's compare that to the entire sentence it was lifted from: &amp;amp;quot;'''''Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally,''' a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.''&amp;amp;quot; One can't help but notice that the part of the sentence that states that the theory has been observed to be valid in real world experimentation, has been surgically removed. Why is this? Is it because it stands in contradiction to the claim the lead author of this article is trying to promulgate? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 20:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Peer-reviewed journals won't publish a criticism of relativity.  That's obvious.  Although I don't have a copy of the full paper, I doubt it attempts to fully support the [[hearsay]] that was excluded, and I would not be surprised if it was included simply to safeguard against complaints for what followed.  It adds nothing to the basic point that follows and is quoted here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:19, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why won't a peer-reviewed journal publish a criticism of SR or GR? Liberal conspiracy? Also, do you not accept that mass and energy are interchangeable or is it a problem with this specific equation? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 21:24, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::JoshuaB, do you accept the possibility that the [[Theory of Relativity]] may be false, and would you approve a well-written paper that criticized it?  It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes. We already know the Theory of Relativity is an incomplete model of our universe. So yes, the theory may be &amp;amp;quot;false&amp;amp;quot;, but the one that takes it's place will most likely have many of the same properties. Secondly, would I approve of a  &amp;amp;quot;well-written paper that criticized it&amp;amp;quot;? I don't know what that means. I'm not a physicist, so I don't see what difference my &amp;amp;quot;approval&amp;amp;quot; of said paper would make. Now that I've been so kind as to answer your questions, would you return the courtesy and answer the ones I posted above? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 22:35, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The qualifications on your answer render it almost meaningless.  I'm not asking whether your approval of a paper would make a difference, or your opinion about whether you think the replacement of the [[Theory of Relativity]] will &amp;amp;quot;most likely&amp;amp;quot; be another theory of relativity.  The question was simple and straightforward, referring to a paper critical of the theory of relativity without any appeasement to those who insist on believing in it.  An unqualified answer is requested.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Also, did you ever answer my simple question on [[Talk:Main Page]] about how much time you've spent reading the [[Bible]] this month?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:50, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Come off it Schlafly. This article is not about my Bible reading, is it? No. Does my opinion of the publishing criteria of physics academia have any bearing on the assertions you are trying make? No. Again: Do you not accept that mass and energy are interchangeable or is it a problem with this specific equation? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 23:11, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Andy, do you accept the possibility that the Theory of Relativity may be correct, and would you approve a well-written paper or book that supported it? It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 03:28, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Misplaced claims of experimental verification'': if you want to put on the disclaimer ''misplaced'', please explain the results of the experiments in another way.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Why won't a peer-reviewed journal publish a criticism of SR or GR?'' But they do: remember the neutrino thing? Or the papers of H. Ives? In fact the first event has shown that especially the publication of experiments (seemingly) violating currently accepted theories gets attention!&lt;br /&gt;
*Taking only the second half of ''&amp;amp;quot;Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally, a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.&amp;amp;quot;'' makes you looking deceptive. Take the whole sentence and try to explain the motivation of the first half. Otherwise anyone who looks the quote up will suspect an ulterior motive!&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole first section is a train wreck.&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Mass]] is a measure of an object's inertia, and is directly related to the forces of [[gravity]].'' Only when you accept the general theory of relativity it is, otherwise inertial mass and gravitational mass are quite different animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have attempted to clarify the last point on the [[Mass]] page, and also removed the fact template from the first paragraph, since the explanation is given later on. As it stood, the &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; banners following important points tended to undercut the authority of the article.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:29, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The problem is not a confusion of weight and mass, but the conflation of gravitational and inertial mass. In the classical theory, there is no reason why both should be the same, it's just an experimental fact.&lt;br /&gt;
::So, I'm sorry, your new entry didn't help.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But they always are the same, aren't they? I don't see why knowing or not knowing the reason (yet) has any bearing on the question.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:43, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Aschlafly writes: ''Mass is a measure of an object's inertia, and is directly related to the forces of gravity. In contrast, the intrinsic energy of an object (such as an atom) is a function of electrostatic charge and other non-inertial forces, having nothing to do with gravity.''&lt;br /&gt;
::::E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; isn't about gravity, to invoke it here is a deflection. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:49, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: OK. But bear in mind that this page clearly exists to provide a counterweight to certain liberal views. To do that, clarity of message is needed, and a &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; banner has a deflating effect on the strength of that clarity. So perhaps you could suggest a wording that might be acceptable without the &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; bit?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:03, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, I can't. Frankly, I don't see the clarity in this piece: at the moment, it is still sadly missing. So I hope, that Aschlafly taking care of the fact-tags (other then trimming them away) will add to this clarity! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:13, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of how meaningless E=mc² is: descriptions for the layman  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Try to explain a complicated formula in 1-2min, then have a single sentence of this soundbit taken out. You can bet that this may sound meaningless. That's no fault of the formula. I'll change the title back. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:58, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The quotes (and others that could be added) illustrate how meaningless the formula is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:02, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The quotes illustrate how difficult it is to explain the concept to a layman. Take a look [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/expe-text.html here], where you can find the quotes in context. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:16, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The quotes were solicited to describe the meaning of the equation to laymen, not to illustrate how difficult that is.  The difficulty arises from the meaningless nature of the equation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually the meaning of the equation is very clear: the total energy contained in matter is its mass multiplied by the speed of light in a vaccum squared. Experiment after experiment, and nuclear reactor after nuclear reactor, has clearly demonstrated that the total energy released by a reaction is the lost mass multiplied by c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. Therefore whether the theories of relativity are true or not, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is true. Equally, even if classical Newtonian mechanics was false, the kinetic energy of a moving mass would still be accurately described by E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;k&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;=1/2mv&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:34, 28 March 2012 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
::::Indeed. Internet quotes are really not very useful. A skilled researcher can always find someone saying something to justify their position however bizarre or immoral.  This is a typical weakness (and response!) of those who have no real moral or religious basis for their convictions. --[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 19:04, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::These quotes are absolutely meaningless. It looks like you took random sentences from the PBS article and then inserted them into the article as if they had any real significance. This is made even more moot when you consider the fact that the article claims that &amp;quot;Ten top physicists were asked to describe in laymen's terms E=mc²&amp;quot; and then you go on to quote three. Not to mention, most of the quotes aren't actually explaining what the equation means - a basic understanding of algebra and what the symbols mean is sufficient to understand its basic meaning - but rather what it entails, its implications. Tim Halpin-Healy's quote I think is better than taking some random sentences and then implying that they mean that physicists don't know what E=mc² means. --[[User:Tyg13|Tyg13]] 15:58, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The problem is that '''E=m&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;does not meaning anythimg that makes sense.  Anyone is welcome to try to explain it here.  Eating a pound of cake does not cause one's energy to increase by the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:06, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No, it doesn't. It causes your energy to increase by a number of foot-pounds equal to '''one pound''' times the speed of light squared. I've explained this to you already and it isn't difficult. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:23, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The equation is essentially just a conversion ratio, its not difficult to understand that units of energy (Whether it is Joules, pound-foot, or erg) look essentially like a velocity squared times a mass (in SI units - kg m^2/s^2) this is not relativity or theory dependent, its the definition of Energy. The Special Relativistic analysis that results in the basic equation just determines that the conversion ratio is precisely that universal constant '''c''' in whatever units are convenient. There is no blindingly obvious or intuitive reason why this SHOULD be the case (conceivably the conversion ratio could have any number of complicated dimensionless constants in front), but basic mathematical logic allows us to derive this simple relationship from the postulates of Special Relativity. That being said, its a rather useless equation on everyday scales. In reality,  after consuming a pound of cake your body begins to break down the chemical bonds in the sugars/fats/proteins to extract usable energy, about 1500 food calories worth of it. If you had a precise enough scale and could somehow keep a human in a hermetically sealed bag that prevents the escape of any moisture/gas etc. you would be able to measure that after consuming and digesting the cake your bodyweight would not be +1 lb, but about 70 pg (picograms - 10^-12 grams) less, so if you weighed 150.0lb and ate a pound of cake (total of 151lb), after digestion you would actually weigh 70pg less than 151lb. It is important to note that this &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; isn't &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; it is merely the &amp;quot;weight&amp;quot; of the energy stored in the chemical bonds, in other words in a pound of cake there is (1lb - 70pg) of stuff and 70pg worth of &amp;quot;chemical energy&amp;quot; with a conversion ratio of c^2. If you had some magic machine that could convert mass to energy at 100% efficiency the detonation of a body sized bomb would release 20 times more energy than the largest nuclear weapon detonated by man kind, however due to the nature of nuclear transitions/processes such a 100% conversion rate is not possibe . On the scale of nuclear bonds (order of MeV) this difference becomes conceivably measurable, but even so, in the detonation of a hiroshima sized nuclear weapon, the loss of mass due to the nuclear fission is approximately 500mg, the rest of the nuclear material is dispersed as fallout, considering that there was ~60kg of nuclear material in the weapon, this corresponds to an energy &amp;quot;efficiency&amp;quot; ~1%, which is typical of fission devices. In a 100MT nuclear bomb this is conceivably larger at nearly 5kg, and the fusion type weapon that can achieve this high yields has considerably higher mass-energy conversion efficiency at around ~20% [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 16:53, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Another way of thinking about is this. Consider your typical AA batery, it is not a difficult stretch of the mind to understand that this battery stores electrical energy, approximately 2Ampere-hours at 1.5v which is approximately 5000J worth of STORED electical energy. Now, CONSUMING this battery does not cause your  kinetic energy to increase by 5000J the same way that consuming a pound of cake does not cause your kinetic energy to increase by 1lb*c^2, you are still limited by your ability to convert between different energy sources. So A RC car would be able to use that battery to move around for several hours, YOU on the other hand will most likely just pass the battery through your body and the basic chemicals that are storing this electric energy will come out unaltered. The same way that a pound of cake can sustain you for a day, but try stuffing it into the battery compartment of your RC car and it won't move an inch. &amp;quot;Mass-energy&amp;quot; works much the same way, sure consuming a pound of cake increases your &amp;quot;rest energy&amp;quot; or by an enormous amount, but in reality there is no way to convert mass directly to energy so its much the same as swallowing a battery or stuffing cake into the RC car. [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 17:05, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:At any rate, eating a pound of cake, is not nuclear physics, it is chemistry, where your cells digest and utilize the sugars within. Protiens are also converted into sugar.[[User:JonM|JonM]] 18:28, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Aschlafly, could you give us... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... your interpretation of the results of the experiment by Cockroft and Walton? Cockroft describes in his Nobel Lecture how the kinetic energy of the alpha-particles could be provided by ''diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass&lt;br /&gt;
units.'' (p. 170). Please take into account that this isn't about energy in form of electromagnetic waves! &lt;br /&gt;
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If you don't address the results of the actual experiments, all your claims are just meaningless verbiage.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:39, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cockcroft (please spell his name correctly) does not even cite E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; in his Nobel lecture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't think that it is ''implied'' by the quote that AugustO provided? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:10, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, I don't.  E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is supposedly a general truth of universal applicability.  The case for it, if true, needs to be far stronger than what is quoted above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:15, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the lecture: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, your ignorance is showing:&lt;br /&gt;
17.2 MeV /c&amp;amp;sup2; = 1.602*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;-19&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;kg m²/s² *17.2 *10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;9&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;/(3*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;8&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; m/s)² = 3.0616 * 10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;-29&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;kg = 0.0184 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact as this is such a ''general truth of universal applicability'',  J. Cockroft could take it for granted that his scientifically literate audience would be able to make this calculation.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:26, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::One question, though: We have four protons and four neutrons on the left hand side of the equation, and four protons and four neutrons on the right hand side. So why the difference in mass?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, forgive my ignorance, but why is the 'energy' measured in volts? Volts are not a measure of energy.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Bainbridge measured the mass of &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li directly, using mass spectrometry.&lt;br /&gt;
*Indeed, three protons and four neutrons weight less than a &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li - kernel&lt;br /&gt;
*Energy is measured in this cases in [[Electron-Volts]]. One electron volt is the energy of an electron which passed through a potential of 1 Volt.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:54, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:AugustO, please contribute something substantive instead of talking up a storm. Thanks.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 11:56, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::James Wilson, please don't interfere in interesting and substantive discussions. Thank you! [[User:Baobab|Baobab]] 12:12, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;amp;quot;Baobab&amp;amp;quot;, please state what substance is coming out of this conversation. You have had a history of engaging in hefty talk. Please start contributing. I have had some great insights contributing in a few articles today and will continue to do so. Many thanks for your future contributions.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 12:47, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&amp;amp;quot;James Wilson&amp;amp;quot;, AugustO is clarifying things and giving us some great insights, as CPalmer's latest reply shows. Discussions will often lead to better articles, which is why your interference was totally uncalled for. I guess your only motive was to defend Mr. Schlafly, but he can take care of himself and really doesn't need your help. Regards, [[User:Baobab|Baobab]] 13:30, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, AugustO. Relativity or no relativity, I am learning a lot from this discussion.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:00, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are posing excellent questions! Indeed it should be of interest for Aschlafly, too:&lt;br /&gt;
:::'''Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass?&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:42, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some &amp;quot;qualified person&amp;quot; has said it is true.  In reality you accept these things on the word of somebody else - in other words your belief in the existence of these particles is a matter of scientific faith in something which you have no personal knowledge.  There is obviously no problem with believing things on faith, but please don't pretend it's &amp;quot;true because science says it's true&amp;quot;. Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 18:49, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I find Mr O's position to be rather odd.  He insists that Mr Schlafly - and only Mr Schlafly answers his questions.  Yet at the same time Mr O steadfastly ignores comments specifically directed at him.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 16:11, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If you're referring to your question about how he knows that protons and neutrons really exist, I suspect he thought it wasn't worth answering. I tend to agree. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:15, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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@DavidEdwards: Sorry, [[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]], I didn't want to ignore you. I hadn't caught up after the databank mishap, I'm afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
So, to answer your questions: At school, we performed a couple experiments -there were teltron tubes, the Millikan  the photo-electric effect, the Millikan Oil Drop experiment, de Broglie's electron diffraction experiments, etc. These experiments confirmed my persuasion that the electrons, protons and neutrons are physically real entities. The proposed theories explained these effects - and sitting in front of a computer, I'm surprised that you aren't willing to accept the theories behind semi-conductors. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:25, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
@SamCoulter: There is some truth in your statement, too: it's like asking a priest: ''let's talk about your religion without mentioning Jesus''... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:28, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Restoration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I could restore this page to the last version which I had edited. I don't know whether there were more entries. This should help to restore the article: perhaps one positive effect could be that Aschlafly marvels about the questions in the previous section for a while and rethinks his position! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 18:36, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Instead of the source - tag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement in physics that purports to relate all matter to light.''&lt;br /&gt;
It relates matter to energy, the square of the speed of light is just the conversation factor&lt;br /&gt;
*''In fact, no theory has successfully unified the laws governing mass (i.e., gravity) with the laws governing light (i.e., electromagnetism).''&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't about gravitational mass, but about inertial mass. To identify both means to invoke the General Theory of Relativity&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Simply put, E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; is liberal claptrap. ''&lt;br /&gt;
How so? It works!&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the Book of Genesis.''&lt;br /&gt;
So, physicists should just give up looking for it? I dare to say that there are many Christian physicists - they may just not follow your special interpretation of Genesis!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:29, 27 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; and Walton ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd appreciate an answer by Aschlafly (and him alone) to the following questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''1.''' Do you accept that the mass of the Lithium-kernel (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li), of alpha-particles (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;He) and of protons (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;H) can be measured fairly accurately, as these are charged particles? &lt;br /&gt;
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'''2.''' Do you accept the measurements for the mass of the particles as used by Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; and Walton, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;
:::{|&lt;br /&gt;
!particle&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;H||1.0072 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;He||4.0011 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li||7.0130 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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If not, which values do you think to be right?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''3.''' Do you agree that before the reaction the mass of the particles involved was 8.0202 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''4.''' Do you agree that after the reaction the mass of the particles involved is 8.00220 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''5.''' Do you agree that there is a mass decrease of 0.0180 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''6.''' Before the experiment, the Li was at rest and the proton had a kinetic energy of less than 1MeV. Do you accept these  values?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''7.''' After the experiment, a pair of alpha-particles was observed, both having an kinetic energy of 8.6MeV. Do you think that this value is correct?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''8.''' Can you tell me where the mass went? Can you tell me where the energy came from?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''9.''' If your answer to question 8. is ''no'' in both accounts, than my answer is that there is a theory which explains the conversion of mass to energy, even if you don't like it! &lt;br /&gt;
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As this theory works for this experiment, and for all the other fissions and fusions, it isn't liberal claptrap, but a meaningful theory. And you can't blame physicists for using it! Of course, you can blame journalist to abuse the formula - but this isn't the result of ''liberal physics'', but of ''bad reporting'', as an abuse of the dictum ''1+1=2'' doesn't reflect badly on number-theorists, but only on the person misattributing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:04, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:AugustO, chemical reactions can release energy, typically based not on the size of their mass but on the electrostatic energy prior to the reaction.  Cockcroft's own paper accepting the Nobel Prize does not claim that his work proved that '''''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''.  Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula, or else we'd have seen far more claims of experimental verification of it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, you haven't answered any of the questions above! Instead you are talking about something completely different:&lt;br /&gt;
*We are not talking about a ''chemical'' reaction! You should know the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
*Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; claims that the energy comes from the loss of mass - and he calculates it according to ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;''. Please read (and understand!) his lecture.&lt;br /&gt;
*Please give a list of a few (or at least a single) experiment which contradicts the formula. This should be easy, as you stated that ''Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula''. Oh, wait, you made that up...&lt;br /&gt;
*Please answer the questions 1 to 9: all the question are covered in Cockcroft's&amp;amp;sup1; lecture, so I'd be interested in your explanation!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:32, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:AugustO, if you cannot even spell Cockcroft's name properly, how can Andy take anything you say seriously? --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 22:03, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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(1) : spelling of ''Cockcroft corrected [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:22, 25 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please move this article to [[Essay:E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;]]? Then I could ignore all the misleading and outright wrong statements in the first section! Thanks, [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Experimental Facts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, on the one hand side, you state that ''no experiment distinguishes between &amp;quot;gravitational&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;inertial&amp;quot; mass'' - and that seems good enough for you. On the other hand side, you have a problem with the statement that E=mc² ''continues to be affirmed experimentally''. Do you spot the inconsistency? Indeed, I could write: ''the equivalence between inertial mass and gravitational mass has never been mathematically derived from first principles in classical mechanics, indeed, a rigorous proof of this equivalence is probably beyond the purview of classical theory.''&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, omitting the first part of the sentence ''&amp;quot;Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally...&amp;quot;'' makes you look very disingenuous (even if you have good motives) to anyone who looks up the link to the abstract!&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:07, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance.  99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:38, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And the remaining percent are the physicists which draw such distinctions with good reason! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Even more confusing is that the article states mass is a measure of inertia. Inertia is resistance to acceleration, and that has nothing to do with gravity at all. The article as it stands is simply inaccurate. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:51, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Aschlafly: ''....may not even have any justification in the paper'' &lt;br /&gt;
::::Aschlafly, havn't you read the paper? Here is a part of the conclusion:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''Einstein produced about 18 virtuoso derivations and demonstrations all aimed at establishing the mass-energy principle. We have shown that although each of them gave evidence for the applicability of E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = mc&amp;amp;sup2; to a particular set of circumstances, no one derivation, or collection of them taken together, succeeded in providing a definitive proof of its complete generality. That should not be surprising because the same situation occurs, for example, with F = ma, which is a different kind of relation than E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = mc&amp;amp;sup2;. Even so, 300 years of successful theoretical work have not proven the correctness of F = ma. Indeed, relativity showed that this expression, one of the bedrocks of classical mechanics, holds only approximately.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Here is another excerpt, on mass, electromagnetism etc:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''In the 19th century, a number of European physicists, including the leading theoretician of the time, Hendrik Lorentz, were working to establish that mass was, in whole or in part, electromagnetic. There were primarily two competing theories, one by Lorentz, the other by Max Abraham. Both agreed that depending on the relative direction of its velocity and acceleration, an “electron” a generic charged particle moving through the aether could manifest both transverse and longitudinal speed-dependent mass components. There was even experimental evidence that seemed to confirm as much. Electromagnetic theory was then at the center of physics.''&lt;br /&gt;
::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:56, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::(May I add that I think one shouldn't make such fundamental statements as ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; has no meaning'', if one only skims a few abstracts! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, maybe you have not the time (or the access) to read the actual papers - as you should when drawing conclusions. But perhaps you can take a look at [http://www.lbl.gov/abc/Basic.html Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory's ABC of Nuclear Science] to refresh the basics?Even there, they use ''Einstein's famous equation...''... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:44, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ...purports to relate all matter to light ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I write that for iron I get:&lt;br /&gt;
::V [cm&amp;amp;sup3;] * 7.874 g/cm&amp;amp;sup3; = M [g]&lt;br /&gt;
I don't relate the mass to  7.8474, but to the volume. So, similarly  Einstein's equations says that mass is proportional to energy, not light. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:38, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the constant applied in this case is the (square of the) speed of light! Are you saying that that is a coincidence? If so, why not just say &amp;quot;E=mc&amp;quot;?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:57, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::no, of course not, but we could write, e.g., E&amp;amp;epsilon;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = m/&amp;amp;mu;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;: the relationship is given between mass and energy... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:04, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But the relationship itself is somehow connected to light. Or maybe, the relationship is connected with some third factor that also determines the speed of light.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:58, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::yes, but the c² is a constant. Does the equation E/c²=m relate all energy to light? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:18, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yes - the equation in any form relates mass, energy, and the speed of light. I think the article doesn't emphasise the light-energy relationship because it's the mass-energy relationship that appears absurd once the theory of relativity is discounted.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:22, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if you discount the theory of relativity, the experimental facts remain: in experiments where mass is deleted or created, this happens with the release or absorption of energy. And this energy is given by &amp;amp;asymp;8.99*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;16&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;m&amp;amp;sup2;/s&amp;amp;sup2; times the mass... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:31, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Misleading footnote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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::(Your footnote about the units is bogus. SI units are not arbitrary, since eg Joules can be derived from other SI units including kilograms, metres and seconds. Therefore, the relationship to light ''is'' (purported to be) a natural one.)--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:00, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Which footnote about units? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:04, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, I see, no, not ''my'' footnote. The text was inserted by [[User:GregG/RSS_6#Mon.2C_26_Mar_2012_18:05:11_GMT_.28edit_by_MihailD.29_2|MihailD]], and obviously the equation holds in other systems, too. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:10, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I took out the main part of the footnote: it should be obvious that in a physical equation only compatible physical units can be used, and that otherwise conversion factors have to be introduced. But there is no problem, if we have c in feet/h, m in pounds, and E in pound*feet&amp;amp;sup2;/h&amp;amp;sup2; &lt;br /&gt;
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:I see - my apologies. I thought you had added the footnote in order to try and make the point above. I agree that in any sensible unit system the equation will work (assuming the theory is right of course).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:32, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like [[User:MihailD|MihailD]] received a lifetime block for this and related edits, so he'll be unable to explain or justify his comments. --[[User:JasperK|JasperK]] 08:58, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== We will, we will, we will ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Generally I enjoy the great contribution of SamHB. My only rub: the ''royal we'' - ''we will dispel'', ''we will show'', ''we don't do''. I don't think that this is the best way to phrase an encyclopedic article, and I'd like to see alternatives. For the moments, I just commented out some of the occurrences which in my opinion spoiled the fun of reading the article....&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is a bit chatty. The first one could be rephrased &amp;quot;This article sets out to...&amp;quot;. I have reworded two of the others, and the rest might possibly be omitted entirely.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:44, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you guys destroyed a wonderful original piece of work by Mr. Schlafly. There are hundreds of books and web sites that explain relativity, why did you feel the need to reproduce that content here? --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 16:18, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps because they are right and he is wrong? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:39, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Aschlafly, you still haven't answered my [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|reasonable questions abouts this subject]]. To be ignorant on a subject isn't that big a deal, but to willfully stay ignorant while lecturing about it, that is! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:32, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, the ''wonderful original piece of work'' was not destroyed - you find it embedded in the text. A blanket reversion of the work of a couple of editors should be a no-no, please give reasons for reverting at least for each paragraph! And answer the [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|questions!]] [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:42, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection of the Article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Stated reason: ''(with reluctance, and repeated reversions; for now, post specific suggestions for edits on the talk page)''&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, this must be one of these definitions of irony, as I asked for specific reasons for your  deletions of material. Isn't that censorship? BTW, you still haven't replied to the [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|sections above]], and frankly I'm starting to call your knowledge on this matter in question! Ignorance is not always bliss! &lt;br /&gt;
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:The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis.  Simply put, the entry had denigrated into the ''antithesis'' of the truth-seeking integrity expected of ''Conservapedia''.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:41, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what about the current entry? The fact is that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is a perfectly valid equation demonstrating the equivalence of matter and energy and it has been thoroughly verified; the energy a piece of matter contains DOES equal its mass times ''c'' squared. This has been repeatedly demonstrated by experiments, which consistently show that the energy released by a reaction is equal within measuring limits to the overall mass lost. It's perfectly reasonable to reject any claim that this demonstrates the truth of moral relativism, atheism or anything else, but to criticise the equation itself as &amp;quot;meaningless&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;liberal claptrap&amp;quot; demonstrates no truth-seeking or integrity. E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is no more liberal than d=vt or 1+1=2. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 19:53, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The entry explains how nonsensical the formula is as a general principle -- and how it has never been derived as a matter of logic or demonstrated in any general, meaningful manner.  Reliance on [[hearsay]] is not a serious alternative.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:24, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But it ''isn't'' a general principle. It's a mathematical expression of matter-energy equivalence and it's perfectly valid. Whether or not it's ever been derived as a matter of logic or not is irrelevant because it's been repeatedly demonstrated to be true in the most meaningful manner possible: if you turn matter into energy the amount of energy that comes out is always equal to the lost mass times ''c'' squared. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 20:59, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You restate the claim as though its repetition would make it true.  It doesn't.  If someone gains one pound in weight, then it is preposterous for anyone to claim that his energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:07, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yes, it would be absolutely preposterous. In fact his energy would have increased by a number of foot-pounds equal to one pound times ''c''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; in feet per second. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:11, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::To explain that further, his energy would have increased in proportion to his '''weight''', not to the speed of light. If a person who weighed 150lb gained 1lb the energy contained in their mass would increase from 1.4467x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;17&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ft lb to 1.4564x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;17&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ft lb. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:39, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The formula '''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' does assert that his energy for a fixed gain in weight would increase in proportion to the speed of light squared and, as you say, that is preposterous.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::No, his energy for a fixed gain in weight will increase in proportion to his '''weight'''. In my example of a 150lb man gaining 1lb, his new energy content will be 0.6667% higher, '''as will his weight'''. ''c''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is just a constant. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 00:52, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Andy seems to imagine that this energy should be immediately available for sports or doing work around the house, and that we should all be superheroes after having eaten a bar of chocolate. This is, of course, not so. The energy is still locked up in the mass, and it would require nuclear or particle reactions to convert even small parts of it into useful forms of energy. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 03:28, 31 March 2012 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
''The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis''. Then let's get factual: just answer a [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|few questions]]. Shouldn't be difficult, as you are so insightful. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course this is hearsay - and so it should be. Conservapedia is an encyclopedia - a collection of established information cited from other sources. Hearsay may be inappropriate in court, but it is the lifeblood of an encyclopedia. Anything that is not 'hearsay' is personal opinion or original research, and should be reserved for articles prefixed 'Essay:'. --[[User:JasperK|JasperK]] 08:23, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then again, heresy tends to be more reputable when it comes from a professional who has studied the issue for years, instead of a man who doesn't understand how food works. [[User:JackFerner|JackFerner]] 12:23, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=E%3Dmc%C2%B2&amp;amp;diff=971455&amp;amp;oldid=971446 this edit] removed publication information about the references.  Personally, I think this information is useful for two reasons: it helps Conservapedia editors locate the references from other sources if (and when) the links go dead, and it helps who print out Conservapedia articles and wish to look up the references offline.  (Of course, I'm not suggesting that the URLs be removed, but this could be in addition to the publication information).  Of course, there may be perfectly good reasons for removing the publication information of which I am not aware, but I otherwise think that the publication information should be included again (and I plan to do this once the protection expires).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 23:17, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great point.  I retrieved and added many of the citations back.  If I missed any then I'd be happy to add them also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Niels Bohr ==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy, for how often you rail against the Nobel Prize I'm surprised that you would try and use a former winner as an authority to support your misguided assertion. [[User:DennisR|DennisR]] 21:48, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even a broken clock (like the Nobel Prize) gets it right every once in a while!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:07, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::''. As a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light, it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, including Niels Bohr. '' Who were these physicists? And what said Niels Bohr?  I couldn't find anything. In the famous ''Gedankenexperiment'' at Solvay, he accepted ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:14, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And of course it ''isn't'' a &amp;quot;general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light.&amp;quot; It's a statement of equivalence between energy and matter. Andy seems to be obsessed with the idea that light is involved somehow, and that conflicts with his rather odd idea that the Bible forbids a unified theory. I can only wonder what he'll do if science comes up with a unified theory. Probably deny that too. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:16, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, according to the information I found (Einstein and Bohr at the Solvay-conference), Niels Bohr accepted ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;''. So, a fact-tag was the only alternative to downright deleting the sentence: it allows you to bring up your sources! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:31, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd have been amazed if he hadn't. Bohr was on the British team for the Manhattan Project, and he wouldn't have been much use at nuclear weapon design if he didn't accept E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:41, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Aschlafly, you have a tendency to make up claims (''As a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light, it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, including Niels Bohr. '', ''Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula'', and, yes, '' &amp;quot;suddenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;at that time&amp;quot; is a nuance of the Greek ἰδού''). And when your bluff is called, you are miffed! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:00, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::''Protected &amp;quot;E=mc²&amp;quot;: insertion of a fact tag instead of finding and adding a reference.'' That is ridiculous: there is no way of ''finding and adding a reference'' for this made-up &amp;quot;''fact''&amp;quot;! &lt;br /&gt;
::It is, however, not very difficult to show that the ''fact'' was invented: just take a look into ''&amp;quot;Foundations of Quantum Physics I''&amp;quot;, a book written by Niels Bohr and Jorgen Kalckar. Here Bohr uses what he calls ''Einstein's relation'' without any trepidation! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:00, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Presumably, then, the relevant text should be changed to something like &amp;quot;it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, although Niels Bohr later accepted it.&amp;quot; and then add the citation. Or you could clarify with something like &amp;quot;the liberal Nobel Prizewinner Niels Bohr&amp;quot;.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:18, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*There is no reason to think that there was a time at which Niels Bohr didn't accept it! &lt;br /&gt;
::::*Is there any source which shows that it was ''widely rejected at the time''? Of course, there was the [[Deutsche Physik]], but does this count?&lt;br /&gt;
::::*That said: the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{fact}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; tag was absolutely appropriate. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You make some valid points as the online evidence is remarkably scant, even though the disagreement between Bohr and Einstein is well-known.  This may be a (rare) example where the internet is less adequate than books.  I did add an explanatory footnote and the protection to the page should be expiring soon, if not already.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Einstein disagreed with Bohr regarding quantum mechanics. Could you provide a source that Bohr disagreed with Einstein on the theory of relativity? I can't find one! &lt;br /&gt;
*As I said, the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{fact}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; tag was absolutely appropriate, and I'll reinsert it, as I don't think that there are any sources to back-up your claim.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light'': no one claims that the '''three''' are equivalent!&lt;br /&gt;
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I've changed the introduction to something a bit more encyclopaedic. Please don't revert without discussing it first. Thanks. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:28, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Political pressure has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of this nonsensical equation''&lt;br /&gt;
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More likely the fact that similar experiments as the one Cockcroft and Walton are performed by undergraduates in each department teaching physics around the world! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:30, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, that would not explain why it &amp;quot;is impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of&amp;quot; E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Even if you think the formula is somehow true, surely you do not deny the political pressure in academia against anyone who might consider questioning it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's entirely possible for someone who questions the validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; to pursue a career in science; scientists are encouraged to question the validity ''everything''. However if they ''deny'' the validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; then a scientific career is indeed off-limits to them, for the same reason as it's off-limits to someone who denies that 1+1=2. The fact is, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. It's been verified time and time again. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 18:44, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To talk about political pressure in this context is ridiculous. The conversion of Mass to Energy and vice versa and the validity of E=mc2 has been demonstrated experimentally  so often(an early example is given in the main page) that to deny that the equation describes observed nature flies in the face of observation and is thus unscientific. To question its validity without hard experimental evidence or a sound theoretical argument (neither of which has been demonstrated) would simply be a matter of scientific (in)competance.[[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 15:16, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Aschlafly, if you argue against ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;'' out of a position of (willful)  ignorance, you won't be taken seriously. Unfortunately this is what you are doing, as your (non-) answer  [[Talk:E=mc²#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockroft and Walton|above]] is showing.&lt;br /&gt;
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In general, if the map distance between two points is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;d&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; and the actual distance between the points is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;D&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, then the following formula is satisfied:&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; posits a direct relationship between mass and energy.  It does not relate mass to the speed of light (or light itself), nor does the equation related light to energy.  Rather, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is a conversion factor, just like the &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; was in our equation for computing actual distances from map distances.  I hope this helps explain why some editors have concern with your statement of the relationship posited by &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 00:19, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:But Energy and mass have known meanings in other contexts, unlike the distances (in inches) on the map page in your example.  If Energy or mass were being redefined by E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, then I think your analogy would work.  But people are not defending E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; by saying it entails a redefinition of Energy or mass.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:00, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The equation postulates how mass and energy can be interchanged while conserving the total amount of mass energy.  For example, according to the equation, a nuclear reaction that causes 1.0 kg of mass to be lost will produce 9.0 x 10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;16&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; J energy.  The amount of energy produced ''by the loss of mass'' is proportional to the mass lost.  It is the same sort of equivalence between the number of pounds you get at a currency exchange and the number of dollars you pay (which, come to think of it, is probably an even better analogy).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 01:13, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::(inserted reply here) E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; claims more than the relation between mass and energy is linear (which is itself implausible).  It also claims that the proportional factor is precisely equal to the speed of light squared.  Restating the meaning of the equation in plain terms demonstrates how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:41, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Energy and mass have known meanings in THIS context! The equation tells us how much energy will be liberated by losing a set amount of mass, or how much energy (for example hard gamma rays) is required to create a set amount of mass. It is a valid equation. It doesn't matter ''what'' objections anyone has to it based on principle or logic; it's been tested and it's correct. This is getting pretty frustrating. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 01:56, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we should have two articles [[E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; (science)]] and [[E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; (new age)]]: every sentence Aschlafly writes on this subjects shows that he knows so very little about the science involved - and has no interest to get informed any further. Instead his methods reminds me of homeopaths and other quacks advertising their craft by misrepresenting sources, cherry-picking evidence and generally repeating false statements over and over again despite of better knowledge. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:05, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Schlafly, you've said that this equation &amp;quot;purports&amp;quot; to describe the equivalence of matter and energy. The fact is, it's been repeatedly tested and it ''does'' describe the equivalence of matter and energy. However I get the feeling that there's some misunderstanding here. What, exactly, is your objection to E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;? Do you think it's incorrect - in which case go check the experimental data - or do you think it's being used to advance some sort of political agenda? I think we've reached a deadlock here and to make any progress on improving the article it would be helpful to know what you think is wrong with the equation. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:02, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The problem is that it is a self-sustaining myth presented as &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot; by the same self-serving scientific establishment who have built an tautological edifice on nothing.  It is designed to subtly indoctrinate children into the world of moral, social and scientific relativity by suggesting that &amp;quot;everything is relative&amp;quot;.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 17:03, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The equation is nonsensical.  Mass has nothing to do with the speed of light, and cannot be equated to energy simply by multiplying it twice by the speed of light.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:33, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Andy, how do you explain the result of the Cockcroft- Walton experiment? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 01:42, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::A very good question! Aschlafly, you could try to answer it by responding to [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|this section above]]! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:01, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked into it and for me it is an ''ad-hoc'' fabrication to make a point - even the time-line doesn't work out: a '''''trustworthy''''' encyclopedia shouldn't work this way! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:58, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My dad's grandfather [[Charles Lane Poor]] also disagreed with this paper, although I think he eventually came around once enough evidence piled up for it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:36, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why ''also''? There is no evidence that Bohr disagreed with the paper (therefore the statement about Bohr is ''factually incorrect'', i.e., false) and  the fabrication was removed from the article. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:18, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bohr and Einstein, though friends, had a famous debate about the new theories. If it was not about the particular 1905 paper you have in mind, then what were the Bohr–Einstein debates about? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:22, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They had famous debates about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr%E2%80%93Einstein_debates quantum mechanics], which has nothing to do with the 1905 paper. I'm not aware of any debates about relativity. Can you provide a reference? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Indeed, it is well known that Bohr and Einstein discussed quantum-mechanics - here is Niels Bohr's own account of these discussions: ''[http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/dk/bohr.htm Discussions with Einstein on Epistemological Problems in Atomic Physics]''. Please keep in mind that Bohr was just 20 years old in 1905 - and only decided that year to drop philosophy and take up physics! If you can find any debate of Bohr and Einstein on purely relativistic matters, that will come as a surprise. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:41, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I still don't understand why (a) Andy Schlafly doesn't know the difference between gravitational mass and inertial mass and (b) he seems obsessed over the speed of light in the equation.  The m in the equation is inertial mass! As others have stated, when talking about gravitational mass, you need to consider general relativity.What E=mc^2 says is that mass is just a form of energy. It says nothing about the unification of electromagnetism and gravity (it doesn't even say anything about gravity!). Moreover, do you, Andy Schlafly, understand that electromagnetism is not the only theory that has c as a special value? All massless particles travel at the speed of light. In GR, gravity travels at the speed of light. &lt;br /&gt;
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And by the way, as has been pointed out, if you deny special relativity, you have to reject Maxwell's equations. Are they a liberal conspiracy as well? --[[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:34, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As to your second point, chemical reactions can cause energy to be released, and the remaining mass to be reduced.  This is hardly astounding and certainly does not imply that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your third point is often repeated by Relativists but overlooks that Maxwell's equations were developed and demonstrated decades before the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Maxwell's equations survived just fine for years without anyone claiming that somehow E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Indeed, an assertion that people &amp;quot;have to reject Maxwell's equations&amp;quot; based on relativity suggests a mathematical approach to physics, rather than an observational one.  Are you aware of how Eddington claimed that a physical constant &amp;quot;must&amp;quot; have a certain value due to some mathematical rationale?  (He was wrong, of course.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:06, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your first point: It's good that we all agree that inertial mass and gravitational mass are the same thing.  (This is the fundamental hypothesis of general relativity, by the way.)  But the term &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; always means &amp;quot;inertial mass&amp;quot;.  Gravity never appears anywhere in special relativity.  Even if Newton's constant of universal gravitation (&amp;quot;G&amp;quot;) were zero, that is, we lived in a hypothetical universe in which there is no gravity, special relativity, the Lorentz transform, and E=mc^2 would still be true.  There should be no mention of gravity anywhere in the article.  But the second sentence of the article refers to &amp;quot;mass (i.e., gravity)&amp;quot;.  Please take that out.  I would do it myself, but I'd get it wrong, since I don't know what point you were trying to make.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your second point: That chemical reactions that cause energy to be released result in a reduction of the final mass most certainly '''''is''''' astounding.  No one had ever seen this, or suspected it, before E=mc^2, and it is doubtful that anyone has seen it to this day, since the effect is so small for chemical reactions.  The phenomenon is known only because we know that E=mc^2 is true.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your third point: Yes, Maxwell's equations were developed decades before relativity, and survived just fine before anyone suspected that E=mc^2.  Your claimed &amp;quot;assertion that people 'have to reject Maxwell's equations' based on relativity&amp;quot; is not made by anyone.  It's the ''denial'' of relativity that would necessitate a denial of Maxwell's equations.  Maxwell's equations imply relativity, though Maxwell didn't realize it.  In fact, it was an analysis of Maxwell's equations, not the Michelson-Morley experiment, that led to relativity.  If we lived in a hypothetical universe in which there were no electric or magnetic forces, relativity would still be true.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The reason is that has nothing to do with E=mc^2.  Your point about Eddington was presumably referring to the alpha=1/137 business, right?  I am aware of that.  It was in the late 1930's.  Would you like me to write an article about it?  I'd be glad to do so.  Eddington's promotion of relativity in England was in the 1920's, after the eclipse (his book was in 1923), and was about ''general'' relativity.  E=mc^2 is in ''special'' relativity, and was widely accepted by then. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 17:59, 7 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Simply put, the [[Theory of Relativity]] is a mathematical theory (which, by the way, is taught in math departments in some universities); this mathematical theory has never been based on meaningful physical observations.  Any statement that someone must reject Maxwell's equations if he rejects the [[Theory of Relativity]] shows how the mathematical cart can be incorrectly placed before the physical horse.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:21, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course it's been based on meaningful physical observations. To be more precise, it's based on repeated experiments where the relation between the observed mass loss and the observed energy release is E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I really don't know what your problem is, but to challenge the validity of something as thoroughly confirmed as E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is not going to get you anywhere. The equation is valid. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 03:17, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::My comments were aimed at people who accept that both mathematical theory and experimental observations have a role to play, and that they complement each other.  There is no cart and no horse.  Relativity, like Newtonian mechanics, involves both elegant mathematics and observation, and the observations buttress the theory very well.  It's possible for people to get carried away with the mathematics, as Eddington did with the 137 business, but that hasn't happened with relativity.  And yes, if you don't accept relativity, you can't make Maxwell's equations work correctly, though Maxwell didn't realize that at the time.  It was only later that Lorentz, Poincare, and Einstein fixed that. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 17:59, 7 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''As to your second point, chemical reactions can cause energy to be released, and the remaining mass to be reduced. This is hardly astounding and certainly does not imply that E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;. '' &lt;br /&gt;
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*The mass of the products of a chemical reaction is nearly equal to the mass of the reagents, because the energy which is involved is so much less than that of a nuclear fusion or fission.&lt;br /&gt;
*A kilogram of [[TNT]] will release 4.484 MJ of energy, if you break this down for a single molecule, you see that less than 10 eV are released per molecule in the explosion. Compare this with the 17,200,000 eV per nucleus in the experiment of Corckcroft and Walton!&lt;br /&gt;
*In fact, if you let the products of the explosion cool down, the equivalent of this energy will be missing - but it is such a small amount that it is hard to detect it. But nevertheless,  E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; could be observed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cockcroft's experiments were not performed until 1932 [http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-speech.html], and recognition for his work did not occur from the Nobel Prize committee until 1951.  I could find nothing in the Prize, Cockcroft's acceptance speech, or anything else contemporaneous that suggests that Cockcroft proved that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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One comment above suggests that E=me&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; was accepted long before 1932.  Based on what, mere politics?  This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically even to this day, and the first (dubious) proof for it was not observed until 1932.  Folks, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; seems to be based on politics rather than physics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:02, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically&amp;quot;--It is more correct to say that the formula cannot be mathematically derived from first principles (in the way that Kepler's laws can be derived from Newton's law of universal gravitation) rather than that the formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically.  Indeed, experimental observation reveals that the added energy is proportional to the mass lost in a linear fashion, with &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; as the slope.  These are the same sorts of phyiscal observations that allow you to deduce laws like &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;F = ma&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; (apply varying amounts of force to a mass and see what the resulting acceleration is).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 18:38, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The formula cannot be derived ''in any sensible way'', not merely a rigorous way.  Numerous attempts to derive it have been failures.  Moreover, the first claimed experimental observation for the formual was not dates from 1932, long after the formula was declared to be unquestionable dogma.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:20, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Could you please give us some references to these failed attempts? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 19:22, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::This took only one search on the internet: [http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/01-einstein.s-23-biggest-mistakes 7 failed attempts to prove E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:27, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Aschlafly, your reading of Cockcroft lecture is insufficient. He writes: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units, '' so he thinks that energy can be provided by decreasing the mass of an object. And if you do a little math, you can see for yourself that he uses Einstein's formula to calculate the amount. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::As for the ''seven failed attempts'': Even if there were mathematical errors in the papers as your ''&amp;quot;source&amp;quot;'' suggests, it is not clear that they render the calculations invalid! &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I assume you've read the book and not just that chronology, Andy? Looks like an interesting read, even though the [http://einsteinsmistakes.com/the_author_5.html author] is a [[Professor values|professor]] in liberal [[Vermont]] and has written a [http://www.amazon.com/Special-Relativity-A-Modern-Introduction/dp/0971313415/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1333999210&amp;amp;sr=8-1 textbook] on special relativity. Incidentally, amazon.com gives access to a few pages of &amp;quot;Einstein's mistakes&amp;quot;. Let me quote from page 330: &amp;quot;His (Einstein's) first derivations of this equation, although flawed, convinced physicists that the energy-mass relation ought to be of general validity. In 1905, Einstein did not have available the mathematical tensor techniques needed for a correct derivation of this formula, but he instigated the theoretical investigations that later led von Laue and Klein to the correct derivation.&amp;quot; Could you explain in more detail why you think the attempts failed? Von Laue and Klein's attempts would be particularly interesting, because your reference claims they were correct. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 15:28, 9 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::A recent peer-reviewed scientific paper, which has been cited in this entry, also confirms that E=mc2 cannot be mathematically derived.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Aschlafly, have you read the paper? I doubt it, as your statement isn't entirely correct. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:06, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::You mean the paper by Hecht (2011)? That's also interesting. Let me quote from the Conclusions (I happen to have access to the paper): &amp;quot;Einstein produced about 18 virtuoso derivations and demonstrations all aimed at establishing the mass-energy principle. We have shown that although each of them gave evidence for the applicability of E=mc^2 to a particular set of circumstances, no one derivation, or collection of them taken together, succeeded in providing a definitive proof of its complete generality. That should not be surprising because the same situation occurs, for example, with F=ma, which is a different kind of relation than E0=mc2. Even so, 300 years of successful theoretical work have not proven the correctness of F=ma.&amp;quot; ... &amp;quot;That aside, countless experiments from Cockcroft and Walton63 to Rainville et al.64 have, with increasing accuracy, confirmed that E0=mc2 is one of the greatest insights of the 20th century.&amp;quot; But maybe that's not the paper you mean? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 17:18, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::That sounds like what the paper would have to say in order to be published, yes.  An academic journal will withdraw its acceptance of a paper if it conflicts with the [[Theory of Relativity]] in any way.  Anyone in academia who criticizes the Theory of Relativity in any way, no matter how minor, is risking the end of his professional career due to liberal orthodoxy.  [[Robert Dicke]], the greatest American physicist ever, was denied the [[Nobel Prize]] because he criticized the Theory of Relativity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:07, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::And that doesn't sound like someone who actually read the paper! Drawing your conclusions just from your interpretation of the abstract (and wishful thinking) doesn't make a compelling argument. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:01, 12 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::How does Asclafly explain electron-positron annihilation? How do you explain that quantum electrodynamics (which is a relativistic theory) is the most accurately tested theory in physics? What's the theoretical basis for the spin of the electron if you deny SR? And are you telling me that Maxwell's equations are invariant under the Galilean transformations? [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:13, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::The claim that something &amp;quot;is the most accurately tested theory in physics&amp;quot; is a canard often heard by defenders of the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Step back, look at the phrase objectively, and it's easy to see that such a claim is unscientific.  Indeed, such a claim sounds like something one would hear in politics.  Not only are there more than three dozen [[Counterexamples to Relativity|counterexamples disproving the Theory of Relativity]], but the claim on which it was based (the advance of the perihelion of Mercury) is now disproof of the theory.  But notice how few people are interested in reviewing more precise data, and instead cite imprecise data that are a half-century old or more.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:49, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, I think you are underestimating both the scientific savvy and the inquisitiveness of the contributors here.  First, as you well know, but presumably don't like, those &amp;quot;counterexamples&amp;quot; are all wrong, and probably everyone here, except you, knows it.  They have been refuted on the &amp;quot;rebuttal&amp;quot; page.  Second, and this is my more important point, your claim that &amp;quot;few people are interested in reviewing more precise data&amp;quot; is not correct.  I would be interested in reviewing such data, as would nearly everyone else here.  Please post the data.  Don't bother with the full observed precession of 5600 (or whatever) seconds relative to the old equinoctial frame, or 574 seconds with the new celestial frame.  However that is calculated, the precession, after accounting for all the usual factors like gravitational effects of other planets and solar oblateness, is supposed to be 42.98 seconds or so.  Please give a citation for the data showing that the GR figure is wrong.  This argument has gone on for too long.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 22:17, 19 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Aschlafly, have you any reason to believe that R. Dicke had any problem with the special theory of relativity?&lt;br /&gt;
*Your reverence for R. Dicke is understandable, but surprising in light of your statement about the equivalence principle: ''It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance. 99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.'' R. Dicke took quite an effort to perform experiments on this ''hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance''.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Robert Dicke's criticism of the general theory of relativity is well-known.  For that, he was disqualified from receiving the Nobel Prize, despite being the most accomplished American physicist ever.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:41, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Robert Dicke's  criticism of the '''general''' theory of relativity may be well known, but we are here firmly in the realm of the '''special''' theory of relativity. And he didn't have problems with that one - so why have you? Are you a more able physicist than Robert Dicke? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:21, 19 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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William Bertozzi [http://muj.optol.cz/richterek/data/media/ref_str/bertozzi1964.pdf performed some experiments] in 1964 to exemplify the effects of the theory of special relativity.  W. Bertozzi undertook the effort to measure the values involved as directly as possible. He writes:&lt;br /&gt;
:''In the past few decades, the successful operation of multi-MeV accelerators and the planning and interpretations of many high-energy physics experiments have affirmed and illustrated the results of special relativity. However, because these efforts generally involved many other concepts, the relations of relativity are not demonstrable from the data in a simple quantitative manner. The purpose of this paper is to describe an experiment that was performed to help fill the need for such simple and direct data for the teaching of relativity.'' (p. 551)&lt;br /&gt;
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So, these experiments seem to be performed with Aschlafly in mind! Perhaps Aschlafly can explain the data in a non-relativistic way (via quantum dynamics, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics or even nuance of ἰδού?) &lt;br /&gt;
But there are even [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977 experiments for undergraduates] which show relativistic effects: &lt;br /&gt;
:''We have developed an undergraduate laboratory experiment to make independent measurements of the momentum and kinetic energy of relativistic electrons from a \beta -source. The momentum measurements are made with a magnetic spectrometer and a silicon surface-barrier detector is used to measure the kinetic energy. A plot of the kinetic energy as a function of momentum compared to the classical and relativistic predictions clearly shows the relativistic nature of the electrons. Accurate values for the rest mass of the electron and the speed of light are also extracted from the data. '' &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Robert E. Marvel, Michael F. Vineyard&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then why hasn't William Bertozzi won a [[Nobel Prize]] for this work?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:11, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why should he? It is a relatively simple demonstration of a basic principle. Do you intend to ignore everyone who didn't get a Nobel prize? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 23:58, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::If this were a &amp;quot;simple demonstration of a basic principle,&amp;quot; then that would be all the more reason why it should be recognized with a [[Nobel Prize]], given the lack of a prize for the same principle.  Indeed, has any [[Nobel Prize]] been awarded for a purported confirmation of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;?  (Cockcroft's work did not claim to confirm the equation.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:40, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I find it fascinating how you on the one hand use the Nobel Prize as a source of authority when it hasn't been awarded for things you don't believe in and on the other hand berate the Nobel Prize as nothing more than liberal claptrap when it hasn't been awarded for things you do believe in. [[User:DVMRoberts|DVMRoberts]] 14:52, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::It's completely logical.  Some liberal claptrap is even too much for the [[Nobel Prize]] committee, and that's worth pointing out.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:58, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, could you please answer the questions in the questions in the section above: [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton ]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm interested in your interpretation of their results. (But please take into consideration that a chemical reaction releases perhaps the 1,000,000th part of the energy per unit of mass as the reaction observed by Cockcroft and Walton.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, do you know what E=mc^2 means? You say that &amp;quot;E=mc² is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement that purports to relate all matter to light.&amp;quot; No. What it says is that matter is just another form of energy. That's it! It says nothing about unification of electromagnetism and gravity. Moreover, the m in the equation is inertial mass, not gravitational mass! If you look at any decent book on SR, it is the inertial mass that appears in the equations of relativistic energy-momentum. [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 09:42, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many questions in the sections above are still unanswered and I'm especially waiting for Aschlafly to answer those in the section ''[[Talk:E%3Dmc%C2%B2#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]''. &lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, could you at least provide me with your interpretation of the bolded sentence of Cockcroft's lecture: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. '''This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units'''''? Feel free to show your calculations!&lt;br /&gt;
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*Robert Dicke had no problems with the ''special theory'', he proposed an alternative to the ''general theory''. Or do you have a source where he attacked the ''special theory''?&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, the truth is that more than 99% of all today's physics think that this formula is a marvel to behold. That this formula is ''liberal claptrap'' is only your personal opinion, Aschlafly. You haven't given any contemporary source to back this up. Are we expected to take your personal insights for the truth? I'm willing to do so only if you are able to present these insights in a comprehensible way, simply making a statement - and then repeating it over and over again - is not enough. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:59, 25 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed, let's not dilute the truth.  E=MC2 is experimentally proven every time you look at the sun or any stars, it's proven every time an atom splits in a reactor to generate heat that in turn makes steam to spin a turbine and make electricity.  I'm guessing the Sun being the center of the solar system is also &amp;quot;liberal claptrap&amp;quot; too.  The part that I think is so funny is that everyone here is debating the topic so much when there probably isn't a single person on earth that would turn to Conservapedia for an explanation of anything even remotely scientific. [[User:Ntyson|Ntyson]] 17:45, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Schlafly, I'm trying to understand your assertion that the &amp;quot;energy&amp;quot; of an object is a function of &amp;quot;electrostatics.&amp;quot; I wonder if you can explain a little more about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, how is energy derived from electrostatic charge? Can you show the equation for doing this?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Mass applies, at most, a very weak force, and it has no connection with the speed of light squared.  It's almost comical to claim that any meaningful statement of energy is found by multiplying mass times the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:28, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Unfortunately this doesn't really answer any of my questions. Yes, an electric field can apply a force. But the &amp;quot;strength&amp;quot; of an electric field is actually the same as a gravitational field: both decrease inversely as the square of the radius. The difference is that the strength of an electric field increases much more rapidly in proportion to charge than gravity does in proportion to mass.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, electric fields exert a force only on charged particles, which why I asked how we can calculate the energy of uncharged particles such as neutrons. Do they even have energy in the sense that you mean it?&lt;br /&gt;
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::And finally, I would still like to see the equations used to calculate the energy of a particle based on electrostatic charge. How much energy does an electron have? Is it the same as the energy of a proton (the charge is equal but opposite, but the mass is greater)?[[User:Pscott|Pscott]] 15:05, 16 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Why is it preposterous to claim that if one gains a pound in weight then their energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared, but not preposterous to claim that if one gains a pound in weight then their '''''kinetic''''' energy has thereby increased in proportion to their speed squared? [[User:Occultations|Occultations]] 16:53, 21 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Schlafly, could you please explain this statement?  It appears that this is a misunderstanding of the relationship of the mass-energy equivalence embodied by the equation &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  If a math student were to lambast the formula for the surface area of a sphere (&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;A = 4\pi r^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;) as relating roundness to the number 4 or spheres to squares, they would rightly be criticized for this obvious misunderstanding of a mathematical formula.  I think your misunderstanding of what &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; means is similar.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 19:00, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The surface area of a sphere is related to its radius, and to &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\pi&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  But the claim that mass and the speed of light have any relation at all to each other, through energy or anything else, is absurd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;m_{\mathrm{rel}} = \frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}\,\, ? &amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; Are you saying that the speed of light does not belong in either equation, and that the &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; should be something else?  There are a number of equations in Einstein's Special Theory besides E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; and they hold together as far as they go.  Everyone agrees that a general theory of relativity has not been developed, but the ideas of mass energy equivalence and relativistic mass fit the data. The designers of nuclear reactors and satellite systems use these equations with success. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:47, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's a liberal fiction that E=mc2 has ever been applied in any practical way.  The equation defines rest mass in terms of the speed of light - an absurdity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::With all due respect, relativity was factored into the design of the GPS satellite system.  If you want to calculate the energy release of an atomic bomb, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is very useful.  We don't know with great precision the speed of light, and we don't know with great precision the value of &amp;quot;c&amp;quot;.  But God gave us brains and curiosity, so we will learn more precise values for both.  So far, they match.  If someday in the future, someone calculates &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; and measures the speed of light to more decimal places and discovers that they are different, I will have an open mind as to why.  The constant &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; carries through consistently in Einstein's calculations for the Special Theory.  The coincidence that &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; happens to equal the speed of light is one of the beautiful things about God's universe.  Although I do not spend my life's work on theoretical physics, I am pleased that God has inspired some very smart people to devote their lives to thinking about relativity, and I wish them success and happiness. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 11:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We've discussed the claim about relativity and GPS over and over on this site, and as a matter of historical fact (not to mention obvious engineering efficiency), theoretical relativity was not part of its design.  It is far easier and more accurate simply to synchronize directly based on observation, as may be needed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::If relativity isn't factored into the GPS design, why does the &amp;quot;[http://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/1995-SPS-signal-specification.pdf GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM STANDARD POSITIONING SERVICE SIGNAL SPECIFICATION]&amp;quot; (and you can't get more official than ''that'') state that they have to compensate for relativistic effects? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:30, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, why don't you answer August's question? What happens to that lost mass? And how do you explain E=mc &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; accounting for it exactly? The truth is that you live in a dream world. Your &amp;quot;insights&amp;quot; may sound like a nice way to view the world but when faced with a REAL counterexample and asked to back up your assertions you always just hide your head in the sand and fail to respond. Or use your classic 2+2=4 argument. Lol.--[[User:DamonRoss|DamonRoss]] 12:23, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:''    Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass? ''&lt;br /&gt;
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:But a broken clock is correct twice a day.  Would someone claim that proves the clock is working??--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Do you say that the size of the diminution of mass  just ''&amp;quot;happens&amp;quot;'' to coincide with the observed energy calculated via E=mc²?&lt;br /&gt;
::But how can there be a loss of mass? If you don't think that the energy-mass-equivalence is valid, what's about conservation of mass?&lt;br /&gt;
::Your &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot; is as good as a link to a video of fluffy kittens - or some proverb written in Chinese. In short, it is no answer at all, as '''you don't explain the diminution of mass.'''&lt;br /&gt;
::''&amp;quot;It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified. &amp;quot;'' That's just not true, I'm afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:55, 13 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I know a number of physicists who are good conservatives and good Christians.  They take their children to Sunday school. They don't like seeing government wasting money. And they believe in Einstein's theory of special relativity.  At one time, the Roman Catholic Church taught that the Earth was the center of the solar system rather than the Sun.  I personally believe that the Church's view on that subject did not have a reliable source in the Bible.  I understand how the Book of Genesis has been viewed as being in tension with Darwin's theory of evolution, but I don't see special relativity having the same tension with the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The question is whether the contradiction between the Bible and the equation E=mc2 is so direct and widely acknowledged that CP's users should receive an article that disparages the equation?  Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:32, 14 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=E%3Dmc%C2%B2&amp;amp;action=historysubmit&amp;amp;diff=1018287&amp;amp;oldid=1018232 This edit] is a bit vexing and does not reflect the consensus reached on the talk page.  I understand the criticism directed toward the General Theory of Relativity, but for the reasons stated further down the article, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; does fit the experimental data.  Based on everything that I have read, it is consistent with the Bible.  I do not want to get into the middle of a pre-existing emotional dispute, but I thought that I had come up with language that fit both sides.  CP is short on editorial manpower, and all of our time is very valuable.  I am disappointed on how this was handled.  Many thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:46, 15 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Perhaps we could separate the experimental results from the general validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I was thinking of something like:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sorry I can't calculate x, but it can be just a number without any c, light speed etc&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:''The conversion factor (x) is indeed close to the square of the speed of light if appropriate units are used. However:''&lt;br /&gt;
*:''The experiement has been done with only a limited number of nuclear reactions and in specific environments. This does not prove that this will occur for every  nuclear reaction in every environment, and cannot possibly prove that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is always true''&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm assuming here that we accept the experiemental results as far as they go. If not, even better - we can link to some evidence that they are flawed&lt;br /&gt;
*:''The experimental results do not prove that the conversion factor (x) is '''exactly''' the square of the speed of light. More accurate measurements may show that it is different''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*:''No one has a convincing explanation of '''why''' E might possibly equal mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. The most likely explanation is that the Creator designed it this way for some reason that we don't understand.''&lt;br /&gt;
:Would something like that help clarify the true position?&lt;br /&gt;
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::No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.  There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.  It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:52, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*''No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.'' That's just a ''non sequitur''&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.'' Why should there by? It works!&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.'' No, it's not - that's just wishful thinking of you part. Even undergraduates can perform experiments which show relativistic effects - see [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory] &lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it gets demonstrated in practice about 3x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;10&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; times for every watt-second of power generated by a nuclear power plant.  Aside from observation, the theoretical question of ''why'' it should be true (and why the proportionality constant must be c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;) was logically deduced, by Poincare, Einstein, and perhaps others (Roger Schlafly would be an expert on this point), before it was ever observed.  The last paragraph of Einstein's 1905 paper, after deducing it theoretically, speculated that it might actually be observed in Radium decay.  It was, and the rest is history.&lt;br /&gt;
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Clear expositions of why it must be true on theoretical grounds are not always easy to come by.  I like to think that the page I wrote on another wiki gives a clear and concise proof.  Anyone interested in my making it available here?  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 23:06, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that Albert Einstein won the 1921 Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, and that no prizes were awarded during World War II. But didn't E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; show up a lot in the work of [[Hans Bethe]] on nuclear reactions and energy production in stars (1967 prize).  Hans Bethe lead the theoretical team at Los Alamos which designed the bombs dropped on Japan and certainly used the relationship on a day to day basis.  So, I don't believe it is correct to say that &amp;quot;No Nobel Prize has been given for this implausible formula.&amp;quot; I think that so many Nobel Prize winning discoveries in high energy physics depend on E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; or further confirm the relationship that it would be hard to argue that the Nobel committee has been boycotting E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; as pseudoscience. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 05:46, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:@SamHB: Having performed such an experiment for yourself is much more impressive than just thinking about actions in nuclear power plants or stars far away. Such an experiment [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|inoculate]]s you against arguments which are b|ased on wishful thinking alone.&lt;br /&gt;
:@Wschact: the formula E=mc² is virtually omnipresent: I've shown [[#Aschlafly, could you give us... |above]] that Cockcroft used the formula in his Nobel-lecture. Aschlafly tends to ignore such information.&lt;br /&gt;
:@Aschlafly: What do you think of the experiment for undergraduates ([http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory])? Have thousands of students falsified their results to fit the current &amp;quot;dogma&amp;quot;? Do you have another theory which makes predictions that are different from those of Einstein's theory, but which is consistent with this experiment? And could you give the answers to [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? The energy involved is to much for a chemical reaction...&lt;br /&gt;
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::Broken clocks are precisely correct twice a day too.  One or two bizarre experiments in more than a century of trying to prove the formula as a general proposition are hardly persuasive.  The [[Nobel Prize]] committee wants to recognize the formula has being demonstrated, but can't.  There is no logical support for the formula, as peer reviewed articles have virtually admitted.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:11, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The experiment for the undergraduates is hardly bizarre - what results would you expect? If you don't get the results as described, this means that '''your clock''' is broken, while the clock which most of us use  is correct uncountable times a day. And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? This is another non-bizarre and often repeated experiment... --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:25, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[Sorry, I think I put this in the wrong place originally]. It's certainly a strange-looking formula. When refuting it should I be saying that mass is not actually being converted to energy in these reactions (i.e. the experiments are flawed and either mass is not being lost or the energy comes from somewhere else or something)? Or is it that mass is indeed being converted to energy but E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is not a correct/meaningful/useful way to describe it? [[User:Peterw|Peterw]] 15:06, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thank you Peterw.  Clearly, energy is converted from matter. Just consider the energy source of hydrogen bombs and the Sun. Does anyone object to reverting the edit cited at the top of this section? Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 23:04, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Mass is not a function of the speed of light.  A century of effort (and billions of taxpayer dollars) to try to connect the two has struck out.  Chemical reactions can yield a release of energy, but mass is neither created nor destroyed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:40, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::*This is neither an answer to the question &amp;quot;''What do you think of the experiment for undergraduates ([http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory])?''&amp;quot; nor to the ''&amp;quot;[[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft and Walton]]''&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*We are not talking about chemical reactions - that's just a diversion, showing a lack of understanding of the processes involved. We are talking about energies much greater than those involved in a chemical reaction! May I refer you to one of my comments above which you ignored earlier:&lt;br /&gt;
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*A kilogram of [[TNT]] will release 4.484 MJ of energy, if you break this down for a single molecule, you see that less than 10 eV are released per molecule in the explosion. Compare this with the 17,200,000 eV per nucleus in the experiment of Corckcroft and Walton!&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Thanks Andy, that's pretty clear - mass is not being converted to energy, therefore E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is nonsense. I've got two kids who are being taught this stuff at school so I can now set them straight.&lt;br /&gt;
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August, please explain below any high school experiment that you think proves the formula.  You might your view why a [[Nobel Prize]] was not given for it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:36, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Aschlafly, you are a [[Andrew Schlafly|former engineer]], therefore you should have  the competence to review an experiment for undergraduates!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Not everything which is true can be shown at a high-school. You may say that in this case, the theory is beyond the scope of this project, but that is not the case: certainly the readers of this encyclopedia should be informed about such things, even if they can't do the maths themselves - or perform the experiments.  This demands of the editors of articles like this one that they are willing to get the knowledge of the subject! Indeed they should get more information than is put into the article at the end. A good teacher should know a little bit more than the curriculum of his pupils...&lt;br /&gt;
:*And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? I always try to answer your questions - and the questions in the section above aren't that demanding...&lt;br /&gt;
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::What's the relevance of the Nobel Prize? Was a Nobel Prize ever given for Intelligent Design, Flood Geology, Baraminolgy, anti-vaccine experiments, the link between breast cancer and abortion or creation science? [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 15:00, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::As to why no Nobel Prize was given for it, I believe that the main factor was that Albert Einstein had already received the prize for his related work and since the prize was so new, there was a great reluctance to give it to the same person twice.  There are a number of other Nobel Prizes awarded for related work that involve E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; such as Hans Bethe's explanation of how energy is generated inside the Sun.  Turning to the experimental side, there was a Nobel Prize given to John Cockcroft and Ernest Walton.  While a high school student does not have the instrumentation sensitive enough to recreate that experiment, you could take high schools students to an &amp;quot;atom smasher&amp;quot; facility for a tour.  For example, Fermilab outside Chicago has an excellent visitor's center which has a number of exhibits and demonstrations suitable for high school (and younger) students.  The models help visualize the various aspects of atomic (and subatomic) interactions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::One interesting calculation is to give high school students the size of a hydrogen bomb and ask them to calculate the amount of energy that will be released when the bomb detonates. (I certainly would not want that experiment to be conducted for real at my high school.) I hope this helps, and if so, perhaps some of the materials from the talk page can be incorporated into the main article. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 15:10, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::*The calculation is interesting, but it is impossible to prove its validity: the mass-defect simply can't be measured... --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:19, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::The significance of no [[Nobel Prize]] for this is the same as the significance of the dog that didn't bark:  dogs want to bark, and the Nobel Prize committee wants to honor atheistic, nonsensical theories like relativity, but there is nothing there, there.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:24, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::That's your opinion. Wschact offered another explanation. We could talk about this all day without getting closer to the truth - so let's get on more solid ground:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::*Aschlafly, how do you interpret the  [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory] ?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::*Could you give the answers to  [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]? You only have to follow the steps...&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I agree with AugustO's comments as well.  If Andy could respond to those questions, we will know how to proceed to fix up this article and to write others.  For example, if E does not equal mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, what can we say in the Hans Bethe article about his contributions?  How can we discuss synchrotrons?  Why does it take more energy to push a particle as the speed of the particle approaches c? I understand the controversy on this website about evolution vs. creation vs. intelligent design, but E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; appears to be an isolated debate with opponents of the equation lacking biblical support or a coherent world-view. Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 18:52, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Isn't someone going to explain the high school experiment that supposedly proves that Energy equals mass times the speed of light squared, thereby unifying gravity and light???--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:55, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Please read what I wrote above. For your convenience: ''&amp;quot;Not everything which is true can be shown at a high-school. You may say that in this case, the theory is beyond the scope of this project, but that is not the case: certainly the readers of this encyclopedia should be informed about such things, even if they can't do the maths themselves - or perform the experiments. This demands of the editors of articles like this one that they are willing to get the knowledge of the subject! Indeed they should get more information than is put into the article at the end. A good teacher should know a little bit more than the curriculum of his pupils... &amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 19:15, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::With all due respect, as discussed many times on this page, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; does ''not'' &amp;quot;unify gravity and light&amp;quot;.  It addresses the conversion between matter and energy.  The ''m'' is not gravitational mass. Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 07:06, 10 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I think that experiments on [[Compton Scattering]] are performed at high-schools. While generally used to show that electromagnetic rays may act like particles, Einstein's mass-energy relationship is used in the process. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 19:33, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I agree about the Compton scattering validates E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I also believe that the [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory] could be performed by high school students with proper adult supervision.  It would make a great science project. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 06:57, 10 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aschlafly, you created the article on [[Compton Scattering]], but I can only guess how much you know about this subject, as it was just one in a flurry of [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&amp;amp;offset=20070602221148&amp;amp;limit=500&amp;amp;contribs=user&amp;amp;target=Aschlafly similar very short articles], all copied and pasted from the [Talk:Compton Scattering|public domain]. So if you are not familiar with the experiment, have a look at the derivation of the Compton formula: it relies heavily on the mass-energy equivalence [[E=mc²]]!&lt;br /&gt;
::This experiment was performed at my gymnasium by our teacher - due to the gamma radiation it would be a nightmare to have pupils to conduct the experiment for themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
::Aschlafly, I reread your comments on this talk-page, and for me they are strangely  disappointing: you are rarely arguing from physics, but mostly from politics. Or to quote you: ''You restate the claim as though its repetition would make it true.'' &lt;br /&gt;
::Please answer  [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]] and show us that you actually know what you are talking about.&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you, --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:58, 10 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Neither the high school experiment, nor anything else about E=mc^2, purports to unify gravity and light.  E=mc^2 does not relate to gravity; it would work in outer space.  The &amp;quot;m&amp;quot; is ''inertial mass'', not gravitational mass.  The correspondence between the two is incidental, and relates to Einstein's equivalence principle (a completely different phenomenon) and the Eotvos experiment.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Chemical reactions can yield a release of energy, but mass is neither created nor destroyed&amp;quot;.  Not so.  It is a common misconception that E=mc^2 relates only to nuclear processes.  It actually relates to all processes, though nuclear ones are the only ones for which the difference in mass can be reasonably measured.  No one doubts the quantitative results, for nuclear processes, detailed on the article page.  The equation E=mc^2, initially formulated on theoretical grounds, is in excellent agreement with those results.  There is nothing about the theoretical underpinnings to suggest that there is some &amp;quot;threshold&amp;quot; below which &amp;amp;Delta;m is zero, or that it only applies to certain types of interactions.  There is good reason to believe that it applies everywhere, even though the mass difference, in the case of chemical reactions, is not readily measurable.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for sharing that experiment about generating and measuring DC current.  A high school student could easily understand the physics, and the equipment could be made in the Industrial Arts shop.  I miss my high school science fair days. (sigh) [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 00:28, 11 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, I explained this to the kids yesterday and it was an eye-opener for them. The teacher hadn't mentioned that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; was only a theory and might not be happening (well,what would you expect?). Anyway, they did ask me a good question that I couldn't answer. Where does the heat come from in a nuclear power station? They're only 12 so I just need something simple.&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks to me like Uranium is reacting and turning into other things. Is this just a normal chemical reaction and the heat comes from the chemical changes just like, say, gunpowder? Of course they're being told that the heat comes from a loss of mass, and is thousands of times more than a chemical reaction would produce, so I want to make sure I'm on solid ground saying that it isn't. I did a search but couldn't find references to where the heat comes from other than mass being converted into energy and something called Free Energy which I don't understand.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Learn out to spell &amp;quot;yesterday&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;happening&amp;quot;! :)  LOL  [[User:DanAP|DanAP]] 09:52, 11 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::If those are my biggest problems then I'm fairly happy :-)  Now corrected. [[User:Peterw|Peterw]] 09:57, 11 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I changed this sentence to ''It is a statement that purports to relate all [[matter]] to [[energy]]. ''. My reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
*The reader should decide for himself whether the statement is meaningless or nonsensical&lt;br /&gt;
*The older version showed a misunderstanding of [[proportionality]]: in a proportionality, two variables (in this case matter and energy) are related by use of a constant (in this case c²). The older version implied a relationship between matter and the proportionality constant - which is nonsense. As Aschlafly stated above ''&amp;quot;Mass is not a function of the speed of light.&amp;quot;'' Here he is right - as the function of a constant would be necessarily constant itself, but we know that there are different masses....&lt;br /&gt;
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:Aschlafly, before your next reversion of my edit, please address my concerns above. And you still haven't answered  [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]... --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 19:08, 16 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Citations Needed ==&lt;br /&gt;
This article really needs many citations. If a statement is made, for example, about people being unable to pursue a career in the sciences without accepting the topic of the article, some sort of source really should demonstrate that. Similar citations are needed elsewhere in the article. [[User:Avilister|Avilister]] 19:14, 15 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reversion explained ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The truth is defined by logic, not by consensus at liberal universities.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:24, 16 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:The truth is that there is absolutely no relationship whatsoever between between politics and E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, and the idea that there is one is only your personal opinion.  Why do you think that you receive such little support on this idea?--[[User:RobertDW|RobertDW]] 21:25, 16 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Additionally, the page for this is just a mess.  The opening section claims it to be liberal claptrap, while the rest of the article lists experiments that conclusively prove it to be true (None of which I think I've ever seen you directly address). If real-world results contradict your supposed logic, perhaps there is a problem with your logic?--[[User:RobertDW|RobertDW]] 21:31, 16 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Aschlafly, that's not an explanation, that's just rhetoric: it's not about truth, it's about physics. Until now, you have failed to show that you have any knowledge of the matters discussed: you won't address any questions which require you to actually think about the subject and perhaps even take out a bit of paper and a pen (like [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]])! Your position seems to be rooted in ignorance and wishful thinking, your arguments are just political talking points. That's not good enough when everybody else is talking about physics.&lt;br /&gt;
:::A little bit annoyed, yours [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 00:50, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::''science is not by liberal consensus'': not an answer to [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]], again. Are you stalling? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:42, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The truth, it seems, is what ''you'' define it to be, and not what dozens or hundreds of rigorously performed scientific studies support. Studies that have been repeated and re-tested for the better part of a century. Frankly, you're entirely unqualified to present yourself as an authority on a scientific topic like this. Have you ever looked into the data? Ever? Like, even a little? If you had, you'd have seen all sorts of phenomena that can't really be explained without E=mc^2. The fact that it can't be derived from first principles is entirely irrelevant in the face of all of the empirical data. For example, how can you explain the difference between the mass of an alpha particle and the sum of the masses of its four separate constituents? Hint: That missing mass didn't just go nowhere. [[User:Avilister|Avilister]] 11:23, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Beware of claims that the rest of the world completely agrees with something.  Unanimously passed legislation is often the very worst kind.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:21, 16 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|It's a start for now, and will expand over time.  That's how wikis work.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:18, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Peer-reviewed journals won't publish a criticism of relativity.  That's obvious.  Although I don't have a copy of the full paper, I doubt it attempts to fully support the [[hearsay]] that was excluded, and I would not be surprised if it was included simply to safeguard against complaints for what followed.  It adds nothing to the basic point that follows and is quoted here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:19, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|JoshuaB, do you accept the possibility that the [[Theory of Relativity]] may be false, and would you approve a well-written paper that criticized it?  It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The qualifications on your answer render it almost meaningless.  I'm not asking whether your approval of a paper would make a difference, or your opinion about whether you think the replacement of the [[Theory of Relativity]] will &amp;amp;quot;most likely&amp;amp;quot; be another theory of relativity.  The question was simple and straightforward, referring to a paper critical of the theory of relativity without any appeasement to those who insist on believing in it.  An unqualified answer is requested.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, did you ever answer my simple question on [[Talk:Main Page]] about how much time you've spent reading the [[Bible]] this month?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:50, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The quotes (and others that could be added) illustrate how meaningless the formula is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:02, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The quotes were solicited to describe the meaning of the equation to laymen, not to illustrate how difficult that is.  The difficulty arises from the meaningless nature of the equation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The problem is that '''E=m&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' does not meaning anythimg that makes sense.  Anyone is welcome to try to explain it here.  Eating a pound of cake does not cause one's energy to increase by the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:06, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|No, I don't.  E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is supposedly a general truth of universal applicability.  The case for it, if true, needs to be far stronger than what is quoted above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:15, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|AugustO, chemical reactions can release energy, typically based not on the size of their mass but on the electrostatic energy prior to the reaction.  Cockcroft's own paper accepting the Nobel Prize does not claim that his work proved that '''''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''.  Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula, or else we'd have seen far more claims of experimental verification of it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance.  99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:38, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis.  Simply put, the entry had denigrated into the ''antithesis'' of the truth-seeking integrity expected of ''Conservapedia''.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:41, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The entry explains how nonsensical the formula is as a general principle -- and how it has never been derived as a matter of logic or demonstrated in any general, meaningful manner.  Reliance on [[hearsay]] is not a serious alternative.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:24, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|You restate the claim as though its repetition would make it true.  It doesn't.  If someone gains one pound in weight, then it is preposterous for anyone to claim that his energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:07, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The formula '''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' does assert that his energy for a fixed gain in weight would increase in proportion to the speed of light squared and, as you say, that is preposterous.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Great point.  I retrieved and added many of the citations back.  If I missed any then I'd be happy to add them also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Even a broken clock (like the Nobel Prize) gets it right every once in a while!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:07, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|You make some valid points as the online evidence is remarkably scant, even though the disagreement between Bohr and Einstein is well-known.  This may be a (rare) example where the internet is less adequate than books.  I did add an explanatory footnote and the protection to the page should be expiring soon, if not already.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|No, that would not explain why it &amp;quot;is impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of&amp;quot; E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Even if you think the formula is somehow true, surely you do not deny the political pressure in academia against anyone who might consider questioning it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|But Energy and mass have known meanings in other contexts, unlike the distances (in inches) on the map page in your example.  If Energy or mass were being redefined by E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, then I think your analogy would work.  But people are not defending E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; by saying it entails a redefinition of Energy or mass.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] &lt;br /&gt;
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|(inserted reply here) E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; claims more than the relation between mass and energy is linear (which is itself implausible).  It also claims that the proportional factor is precisely equal to the speed of light squared.  Restating the meaning of the equation in plain terms demonstrates how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:41, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The equation is nonsensical.  Mass has nothing to do with the speed of light, and cannot be equated to energy simply by multiplying it twice by the speed of light.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:33, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;quot;Usually when we speak of an object's mass we do not distinguish whether we are referring to its inertial mass or its gravitational mass. This is because the quantity of matter present in an object, i.e., its mass, does not depend on the method by which it is measured.&amp;quot; [http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&amp;amp;filename=Dynamics_InertialGravitationalMass%2525252Exml]  Indeed, no measurement has ever detected a difference between the two.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your third point is often repeated by Relativists but overlooks that Maxwell's equations were developed and demonstrated decades before the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Maxwell's equations survived just fine for years without anyone claiming that somehow E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Indeed, an assertion that people &amp;quot;have to reject Maxwell's equations&amp;quot; based on relativity suggests a mathematical approach to physics, rather than an observational one.  Are you aware of how Eddington claimed that a physical constant &amp;quot;must&amp;quot; have a certain value due to some mathematical rationale?  (He was wrong, of course.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:06, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Simply put, the [[Theory of Relativity]] is a mathematical theory (which, by the way, is taught in math departments in some universities); this mathematical theory has never been based on meaningful physical observations.  Any statement that someone must reject Maxwell's equations if he rejects the [[Theory of Relativity]] shows how the mathematical cart can be incorrectly placed before the physical horse.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:21, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Cockcroft's experiments were not performed until 1932 [http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-speech.html], and recognition for his work did not occur from the Nobel Prize committee until 1951.  I could find nothing in the Prize, Cockcroft's acceptance speech, or anything else contemporaneous that suggests that Cockcroft proved that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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One comment above suggests that E=me&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; was accepted long before 1932.  Based on what, mere politics?  This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically even to this day, and the first (dubious) proof for it was not observed until 1932.  Folks, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; seems to be based on politics rather than physics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:02, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The formula cannot be derived ''in any sensible way'', not merely a rigorous way.  Numerous attempts to derive it have been failures.  Moreover, the first claimed experimental observation for the formual was not dates from 1932, long after the formula was declared to be unquestionable dogma.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:20, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|This took only one search on the internet: [http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/01-einstein.s-23-biggest-mistakes 7 failed attempts to prove E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:27, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|A recent peer-reviewed scientific paper, which has been cited in this entry, also confirms that E=mc2 cannot be mathematically derived.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|That sounds like what the paper would have to say in order to be published, yes.  An academic journal will withdraw its acceptance of a paper if it conflicts with the [[Theory of Relativity]] in any way.  Anyone in academia who criticizes the Theory of Relativity in any way, no matter how minor, is risking the end of his professional career due to liberal orthodoxy.  [[Robert Dicke]], the greatest American physicist ever, was denied the [[Nobel Prize]] because he criticized the Theory of Relativity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:07, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The claim that something &amp;quot;is the most accurately tested theory in physics&amp;quot; is a canard often heard by defenders of the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Step back, look at the phrase objectively, and it's easy to see that such a claim is unscientific.  Indeed, such a claim sounds like something one would hear in politics.  Not only are there more than three dozen [[Counterexamples to Relativity|counterexamples disproving the Theory of Relativity]], but the claim on which it was based (the advance of the perihelion of Mercury) is now disproof of the theory.  But notice how few people are interested in reviewing more precise data, and instead cite imprecise data that are a half-century old or more.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:49, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Robert Dicke's criticism of the general theory of relativity is well-known.  For that, he was disqualified from receiving the Nobel Prize, despite being the most accomplished American physicist ever.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:41, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Then why hasn't William Bertozzi won a [[Nobel Prize]] for this work?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:11, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|If this were a &amp;quot;simple demonstration of a basic principle,&amp;quot; then that would be all the more reason why it should be recognized with a [[Nobel Prize]], given the lack of a prize for the same principle.  Indeed, has any [[Nobel Prize]] been awarded for a purported confirmation of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;?  (Cockcroft's work did not claim to confirm the equation.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:40, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|It's completely logical.  Some liberal claptrap is even too much for the [[Nobel Prize]] committee, and that's worth pointing out.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:58, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Energy can be viewed as the ability to do work, as in applying a force.  Electrostatic charge can certainly do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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|Mass applies, at most, a very weak force, and it has no connection with the speed of light squared.  It's almost comical to claim that any meaningful statement of energy is found by multiplying mass times the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:28, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The surface area of a sphere is related to its radius, and to &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\pi&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  But the claim that mass and the speed of light have any relation at all to each other, through energy or anything else, is absurd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|It's a liberal fiction that E=mc2 has ever been applied in any practical way.  The equation defines rest mass in terms of the speed of light - an absurdity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|We've discussed the claim about relativity and GPS over and over on this site, and as a matter of historical fact (not to mention obvious engineering efficiency), theoretical relativity was not part of its design.  It is far easier and more accurate simply to synchronize directly based on observation, as may be needed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified.  There has been no Nobel Prize awarded for it, for example, and there is no logical basis for even deriving the equation.&lt;br /&gt;
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But a broken clock is correct twice a day.  Would someone claim that proves the clock is working??--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.  There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.  It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:52, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Broken clocks are precisely correct twice a day too.  One or two bizarre experiments in more than a century of trying to prove the formula as a general proposition are hardly persuasive.  The [[Nobel Prize]] committee wants to recognize the formula has being demonstrated, but can't.  There is no logical support for the formula, as peer reviewed articles have virtually admitted.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:11, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Mass is not a function of the speed of light.  A century of effort (and billions of taxpayer dollars) to try to connect the two has struck out.  Chemical reactions can yield a release of energy, but mass is neither created nor destroyed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:40, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|August, please explain below any high school experiment that you think proves the formula.  You might your view why a [[Nobel Prize]] was not given for it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:36, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The significance of no [[Nobel Prize]] for this is the same as the significance of the dog that didn't bark:  dogs want to bark, and the Nobel Prize committee wants to honor atheistic, nonsensical theories like relativity, but there is nothing there, there.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:24, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|The truth is defined by logic, not by consensus at liberal universities.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:24, 16 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Folks, a century of attempts to unify gravity and light '''''have been unsuccessful'''''.  E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is a science fiction goal that billions of dollars in attempts have been unable to achieve.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:59, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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|Perhaps it is easier to copy my answers than to respond to them. Is there anyone here who really thinks that a theory unifying gravity and light has been discovered???--Andy Schlafly 20:25, 17 January 2013 (EST) &lt;br /&gt;
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Andrew (Aschlafly? Andy?), these comments show that you may understand politics, but not physics. Indeed, some are contradictory: in '''24''' you say ''Simply put, the Theory of Relativity is a mathematical theory (which, by the way, is taught in math departments in some universities); this mathematical theory has never been based on meaningful physical observations.'',  while in '''27''' we read ''This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically even to this day, and the first (dubious) proof for it was not observed until 1932.'' and in '''42''' ''there is no logical basis for even deriving the equation. ''&lt;br /&gt;
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What is it: we have experiments which show that the formula is applicable in many occasions: indeed, no situation has been found where it doesn't work. And what is a ''mathematical theory'' other than a logical conclusion?&lt;br /&gt;
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Other comments are simply untrue, like '''39''': ''It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified. '' E=mc² has been used in countless experiments! &lt;br /&gt;
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Not one of the comments shows that you are willing to put some work into your answers - like looking at the experiments or the data. These comments are best described by your own words:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''You restate the claim as though its repetition would make it true.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:42, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This is impressive AugustO! I think I understand Mr. Schlafly's opposition to E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; now.  The theory states that mass and energy are equivalent. But looking at Aschlafly's hand waiving exercise, that is simply not the case. For he clearly has expended a great deal of energy to produce very little substance. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 15:23, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Folks, a century of attempts to unify gravity and light '''''have been unsuccessful'''''.  E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is a science fiction goal that billions of dollars in attempts have been unable to achieve.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:59, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Have you even read anything that anyone has posted here?  Address the experiments that prove it true.  The main article and talk page are full of them.  What is wrong with them?  How are they flawed?  How is E=mc2 used incorrectly in each of them?  How do you explain E=mc2 fitting perfectly into each of them?  You have essentially repeated yourself, over and over, without addressing any actual facts, once.--[[User:RobertDW|RobertDW]] 20:10, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps it is easier to copy my answers than to respond to them.  Is there anyone here who really thinks that a theory unifying gravity and light has been discovered???--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:25, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, there has been no [[unified field theory]] discovered that joins the 4 known forces of nature. Now, let's get back to E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.--[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 20:32, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yet that is precisely what E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; purports to do.  After a century of trying, many realize it is impossible.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:00, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Andy, I know you pride yourself on having an [[Essay:Quantifying_Openmindedness|Open mind]], so let me ask you this: Has the possibility ever occurred to you that you do not really know what you are talking about when it comes to subjects outside your field of expertise, theoretical physics being an example?  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 21:21, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::@Aschlafly, Einstein did not claim E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; to be a unified theory. If he had, he would have said so and called it a day back in 1905 instead of spending the latter years of his research in the 1950's looking for a unifying theory. You do understand that the 'c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;' portion of the equation is just a constant, right? It's simply the maximum speed that any change in a field or massless particle can propagate. So we can actually remove &amp;quot;light&amp;quot; (which seems to be a sticking point for you) from the equation and substitute any wave or field whose speed is independent of the motion of the observer and the wave's source. So you could replace light with anything that travels that fast. You could even plug in gravity in lieu of light if that better suits your fancy. If it could be proven that &amp;quot;bad news&amp;quot; traveled at the speed of light you could plug that in as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::The point being is I think somewhere along the way you got tripped up on the what the formula actually expresses versus what you ''think'' it says. This is witnessed by your statement of: &amp;quot;''Eating a pound of cake does not cause one's energy to increase by the speed of light squared''&amp;quot;. Indeed. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 22:42, 17 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::''Perhaps it is easier to copy my answers than to respond to them.'' No, it isn't. If you take a look at the sections above, you will see that you generally get responses. I'm afraid we are missing substantial answers from you, like to [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::''Is there anyone here who really thinks that a theory unifying gravity and light has been discovered???'' That's not what ''E=mc²'' is about, in the same way that ''A=&amp;amp;pi;r²'' isn't about unifying area and &amp;amp;pi; &lt;br /&gt;
:::::If you don't start to do actual physics, your list of answers just becomes a parade of ignorance. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:00, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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So does a mass of 1 kg have energy of c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, or not?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:06, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No - as you messed up the units. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:08, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::The mass energy in 1 kg is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;1\,\textrm{kg}\cdot\left(3.0 \times 10^8 \frac{\textrm{m}}{\textrm{s}}\right)^2 = 9.0 \times 10^{16}\,\textrm{J}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; (keeping in mind, of course, that a joule is a kilogram-meter-squared-per-second-squared).  That's a lot of energy!  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 01:22, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Or about 21 kilotons of explosive power... or 25 TWh... Or... --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 01:36, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::: You are out by a factor of 1000. A kiloton of TNT-equiv is approximately 4.185*10e12 Joules.  The kiloton equivalent for the figure GregG gave would be about (given he didn't use the approapriate figure for the speed of light in a vacuum I'll approximate as well) 20000 kilotons (20 megatons).  [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 01:53, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Correct. I was doing the conversion in my head. It's should be something around 21,500 kilotons (21.5 megatons). Which of course would make my subsequent conversion incorrect as well. I guess that would make me.... wait for it... wrong. Thanks for the correction DVergne. Wow! It's surprisingly easy to admit you're wrong! Maybe other people will try it... --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 02:04, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Indeed, 1kg has an equivalent energy of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;9 \times 10^{16}J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; - a immense number: it equals 25TWh - the output of all German power-stations combined in a fortnight. On the other hand, the sun emits &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;3.8 \times 10^{26}W&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;  this means that it loses roughly 15 Trillion kg each second - or  the mass of our Moon in less than 57 days.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::But we have had other examples of the equation on this talk-page:&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*In Cockroft's experiment, a mass of  &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;3.0616 \times 10^{-29}kg &amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is transformed into an energy of &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;2,755 \times 10^{-12}J&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*In Compton's experiment, rays having a frequency of a couple of EHz are used. The photons have an energy W=h*f, and interact with electrons as having a mass of W/c².&lt;br /&gt;
::::::This is about measurement, not politics. And please, Andrew, answer [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]: those questions may be difficult for a lawyer, but nor for an engineer. So, I'd like the engineer in you to answer the questions, not the lawyer to give another political statement. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 06:11, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Science fiction is great stuff ... as long as one doesn't start believing it, or allow it to take time away from truths, such as the [[Bible]].  Suppose I drink a glass of water, which has mass of about 0.5 pounds (roughly 1 kg).  Zero calories, of course.  Yet do you maintain that my energy increases in proportion to the speed of light squared?&lt;br /&gt;
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What percentage of people who believe relativity's crass, silly materialism are likely to read the [[Bible]] earnestly, or pursue other real truths?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:29, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Andy, first 0.5 pounds is not roughly 1 kg. Second, your gastrointestinal tract performs chemical reactions, it's not a nuclear fusion plant. Thirdly, I have no clue what percentage of people who accept the theory of relativity are likely to read the Bible, but I'm guessing you have some sort of figure in mind. From your line of questioning it would appear that a) you fundamentally do not understand the topic under discussion and b) you're trying to change the subject. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 23:50, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Good point about the arithmetic - a glass of water is closer to 0.22 kg in weight than to 1 kg.  But the underlying point remains the same:  drinking a class of water does not increase one's energy in proportion to the speed of light squared.  It's science fiction, and not very good at that.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:29, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*The underlying point is that '''you are not doing science but rhetorics'''. I get the impression that you are not able to answer [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]: have you forgotten everything you learned  to become an engineer?&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''[it] does not increase one's energy in proportion to the speed of light squared. '' Don't you even understand [[proportionality]]?&lt;br /&gt;
:::--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:17, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::P.S.: I just created [[proportionality]]. Hope that helps. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:21, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Andrew Schlafly's answers in the section above ===&lt;br /&gt;
Andrew, you still ignore experimental evidence, but repeat and repeat again that [[E=mc²]] is nonsensical, etc. Furthermore, you offer a thought experiment: ''drinking a class of water does not increase one's energy in proportion to the speed of light squared. '' Well, if you drank this glass of water and then got transferred to the center of the sun, it would burn a tiny little bit longer then if you would have been transferred without drinking it. For you this may seem counterintuitive: therefore take a step back and answer  [[#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]] - keep an open mind! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:41, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Robert Dicke, the greatest physicist of the 20th century ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Andrew, such over-the-top statements just help to erode your credibility when it comes to physics. I understand that you won't accept [[Albert Einstein]] - the common choice - for this title. But [[Werner Heisenberg]], [[Max Planck]], [[Niels Bohr]], [[Lise Meitner]], [[Erwin Schrödinger]], [[Richard Feynman]] were at least his equals! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:14, 18 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You seem to prefer liberal theoreticians who were long on speculation, but short on experimental achievements.  Robert Dicke actually built and discovered things, like the lock-in amplifier, in addition to theorizing.&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;unsigned comment from Aschlafly 23:32, 18 January 2013&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::If you prefer experimentalists, what's about [[Edward Teller]], [[Richard Oppenheimer]], [[Stanislaw Ulam]] or [[Enrico Fermi]]? I don't claim that any of those is the ''greatest physicist of the 20th century'', but they are not less great than [[Robert Dicke]]. --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:24, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nuclear Energy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the interest of consistency, I have removed a section of the [[nuclear energy]] article to bring it in line with this article. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 12:40, 19 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Nuclear Energy</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Nuclear energy''' is [[energy]] gained from the destruction of subatomic particles during nuclear fission or fusion. The main uses of nuclear technology is in nuclear reactors, which use the energy in an atom to create power, or nuclear weapons, which use the energy in warfare. There are two types of reactions, nuclear fission and nuclear fusion.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Energy.jpg|thumb|350px|left|a significant share of U.S. energy is nuclear]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Hiroshima Nuke.gif|thumb|left|Nuclear &amp;quot;mushroom cloud&amp;quot; at Hiroshima, Japan]]&lt;br /&gt;
A nuclear weapon is a weapon designed with a nuclear warhead. Nuclear weapons not only produce mass devastation in the blast radius, but also create a nuclear fallout for many years to come. Recently, there has been much fear of a terrorist state or organization getting hold of either a [[Soviet]] weapon or creating one of their own.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nuclear fission based weapons occur by the nuclear chain reaction system, while thermonuclear weapons create nuclear fusion in their reaction.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Power==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Nuclear Power Plant.jpg|thumb|right|Nuclear power plant]]&lt;br /&gt;
Nuclear fission has existed for power over fifty years, starting with the [[Manhattan Project]]. It currently supplies electricity to many of the nations of the world. The nuclear industry was booming in the 1960's and 1970's, but political opposition stopped nuclear construction in the USA. There is talk of renewing construction because it is the cleanest and cheapest source of large quantities of power, it doesn't depend on Mideast oil, and it doesn't emit greenhouse gases.&lt;br /&gt;
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Nuclear fusion has been sought vigorously as a clean energy source, but the end result in every try has been less energy resulting in the reaction than was put into it. Nevertheless, several countries still invest heavily in nuclear fusion energy programs in the hope that someday they may become viable.&lt;br /&gt;
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An environmentalist's ideal energy is one that emits no greenhouse gasses and is efficient. Nuclear energy is not only competitive with coal energy, but by an environmentalist standards, &amp;quot;cleaner.&amp;quot; Environmentalists claim that they want the cleanest, most efficient energy source, but despise domestic nuclear energy use while at the same time ardently support Iran obtaining nuclear energy. This negates any validity they had towards nuclear energy being unsafe. H.R. 391 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h391/show&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; would amend the Clean Air Act of 1963 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.epa.gov/air/caa/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to not allow congress to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. This would make the energy industry more competitive. As all free market economists know, the product of competition is lower prices at better quality, ultimately benefiting the American people the most.&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently, many liberal American politicians have renewed their efforts to scale back nuclear power in the US; liberal pundits have similarly pushed for the elimination of nuclear power in the US despite the lack of greenhouse gas output from this power source. Several nations (e.g. Germany) have set down plans to entirely eliminate nuclear power in the coming decades. The argument has been put forth that the US and other countries should replace nuclear power production with presumably safer &amp;quot;renewable&amp;quot; power sources (i.e. wind and solar power); however, nuclear power is in general very safe and these alternative power sources fail to provide baseload power. Thus, the elimination of nuclear power, in addition to eliminating a clear power source, will likely cause massive problems in the electrical infrastructure of these countries and potentially the US if the current sentiment regarding nuclear power in the US does not change. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Damage Dai Ichi Power Plant Japan.jpg|thumb|center|450px|Damaged Dai Ichi Power Plant, [[Japan]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Executive Order</title>
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&lt;div&gt;An '''executive order''' is an action which does not require the approval of the [[Congress]], by the [[President]].  It cannot contradict or override any law, but can direct agencies in the executive branch in accordance with law.  [[Conservative]]s are often critical of executive orders for how they bypass the constitutional process for enacting new laws.&lt;br /&gt;
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The proposed executive order on [[abortion]] to which [[Bart Stupak]] agreed on March 21, 2010, and which is riddled with loopholes, is available [http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0310/White_House_issues_statement_on_executive_order_.html here].  A criticism is available [http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YThlYjRjMjIwMGQwYzRhYjA1NGIyNzU1OWJkMzNkZDI= here].&lt;br /&gt;
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As of the end of 2012, [[Barack Obama]] had issued 144 executive orders. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/obama.html National Archives]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. During his Presidency, [[Ronald Reagan]] issued only 381 executive orders. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/reagan.html National Archives]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. &lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>United States presidential election, 2016</title>
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&lt;div&gt;The 2016 election will be an open field in both the [[Republican]] and [[Democratic]] parties to replace [[Barack Obama]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Possible Republican candidates==&lt;br /&gt;
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{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Candidate&lt;br /&gt;
!Pros&lt;br /&gt;
!Cons&lt;br /&gt;
!Trending ...&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Rick Santorum]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Strong social conservative base, runner-up in the 2012 primary, by 2016 endorsing [[RINO]]-turned-Democrat [[Arlen Specter]] will be a distant memory for many because he died in 2012. &lt;br /&gt;
|May have been a [[stalking horse]] for Romney in the last election, which he'll vehemently deny; in 2016 voters may want a new face to lead the party instead of an also-ran, media portrays as fanatic.&lt;br /&gt;
|Says door is open on Presidential bid, compared his 2012 run to Reagan in 1976.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Marco Rubio]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Favorite of [[Fox News]], articulate, Hispanic, able to win key battleground state of [[Florida]] since he's from there, was on Romney's shortlist in 2012.&lt;br /&gt;
|Used to be a Tea Party favorite when he defeated [[RINO]] [[Charlie Crist]], but many have since soured on his actions, endorses his own version of the [[DREAM Act]], friends with [[Jeb Bush]], denounced [[Michele Bachmann]]'s investigation into [[Huma Abedin]]. &lt;br /&gt;
|Visited Iowa in December 2012 to speak at [[Jack Kemp]] library. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Paul Ryan]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Vice-Presidential running-mate in 2012, seen as fiscal hawk, Chair of House Budget Committee, articulate.&lt;br /&gt;
|Part of unpopular GOP House leadership, part of steering committee that purged conservatives from leadership positions, supported Boehner's Plan B and Senate budget plan, voted for [[TARP]] and Medicare Part D, budget balances budget in 40 years, didn't carry Wisconsin at bottom of ticket. &lt;br /&gt;
|Visited Iowa in December 2012 to speak at Jack Kemp library, named after the man he used to be an aide to.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jeb Bush]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Able to win Florida, has Hispanic wife and kids, multilingual, backing of [[Karl Rove]] and the Bush family. &lt;br /&gt;
|Outspokenly supports amnesty, neither Tea Partiers or independent voters want a third Bush, told GOP primary voters they wouldn't elect Reagan today.&lt;br /&gt;
|Might count on Rubio to be a stalking horse because of their friendship, if he and Clinton are the nominees many voters might gravitate to a third party.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Chris Christie]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Blunt criticism of teacher's unions won conservatives over for about a year, [[Ann Coulter]] supports him. &lt;br /&gt;
|Unprofessional style, severely overweight, praised Obama's Hurricane Sandy efforts only days before the 2012 election, has gotten heat for appointing Sharia judge and having pro-abortion Lieutenant Governor. &lt;br /&gt;
|First he'll have to get past his re-election campaign against Mayor [[Cory Booker]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Rand Paul]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Son of [[Ron Paul]], voted against GOP establishment's spending compromise bills, advocate for cutting spending, can unite libertarians and conservatives, voted against NDAA.&lt;br /&gt;
|Some of his father's more hardcore followers think he's a 'traitor' for endorsing Romney.&lt;br /&gt;
|Has criticized [[Paul Ryan]] like a potential candidate would.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Bobby Jindal]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Populist conservative who says conservatives should be skeptical of big business, Indian-American, cleaned up Louisiana after Katrina and Governor Blanco, evangelical who also focuses on energy issues like Perry before him. &lt;br /&gt;
|Severely lacking in charisma.&lt;br /&gt;
|Has criticized the GOP on how it needs to be &amp;quot;smarter&amp;quot; and should emphasize it champions small business instead of big business.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Sarah Palin]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Very popular with the conservative base, record of cutting the size of government, expert on energy issues. &lt;br /&gt;
|Thanks to the media, the electorate has already made up their minds about her. May prefer the role of commentator and not run for her and her children's sakes.&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Condoleezza Rice]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Articulate, popular, foreign policy experience, takes the race and gender cards off the table, gave impassioned speech at the RNC, inspiring childhood story.&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-choice, ties to Bush administration, never elected to any office, just appointed; left-wing immigration stance, had role leading up to [[Iraq War]], single status will mean she won't have the emotional support of a family for a Presidential run as [[Laura Bush]] has said; admired by some conservatives, disliked by others like [[paleoconservatives]] and from how [[Dick Cheney]] and [[Donald Rumsfeld]] have criticized her, she doesn't even have all the [[neoconservatives]] wrapped up.&lt;br /&gt;
|Some conservatives would think her running would be a good idea, others won't. She declined to run in 2008 and 2012, but from the speculation she was going to be Romney's VP, she might this time.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Bob McDonnell]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Social conservative, pro-life Governor of Virginia that supports gun rights. &lt;br /&gt;
|Not exciting.&lt;br /&gt;
|Currently under attack by feminists for passing pro-life legislation.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[John Thune]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Senator who defeated [[Tom Daschle]], relatively conservative.&lt;br /&gt;
|Voted for TARP and often votes for other spending bills the leadership pushes, not well known.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Scott Walker]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A [[movement conservative]] who defeated a recall that was pushed by Soros and the unions, exhibits conservative determination in passing right-to-work in his state and surviving the relentless union attacks that followed. &lt;br /&gt;
|[[AFL-CIO]] and the other union special interests have him as a top target, but he stands his ground.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
|[[Susana Martinez]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Gave a good speech at the RNC, conservative Governor of a blue state, Hispanic.&lt;br /&gt;
|Might not be interested.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Jan Brewer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|If she runs, will use potent immigration issue as foil to Bush and Rubio, can take it's mantle and change debate to pressure other candidates to tack right on the issue, outspoken critic of Obama.&lt;br /&gt;
|May not be interested in the Presidency.&lt;br /&gt;
|Currently serving her state as Arizona's governor. &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Allen West]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Conservative black Congressman from Florida who speaks his mind, some conservative activists insist that he runs.&lt;br /&gt;
|Lost his race for re-election to the House two years after getting voted in. &lt;br /&gt;
|Has compared his loss to [[Abraham Lincoln]]'s before he became President in a radio interview.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Brian Sandoval]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Hispanic, fiscal conservative &lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-choice&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Rick Perry]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Strong record of experience as Governor of Texas. Supports Second Amendment. Before the next election he might see a debating coach. Strong fundraiser.&lt;br /&gt;
|Performed poorly in the debates last time, is an also-ran without Santorum's likely momentum in a race that will probably also have multiple of the other Republican Governors, also passed a state version of the DREAM Act and mandated vaccines for schoolgirls. &lt;br /&gt;
|He has stated that he might run again.&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Possible Democratic candidates==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Candidate&lt;br /&gt;
!Pros&lt;br /&gt;
!Cons&lt;br /&gt;
!Trending ...&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Hillary Clinton]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Has wanted to be President for decades, has Clinton machine and big money behind her, quitting Secretary of State position lets her run, she will have the 'sexist' card at her disposal.&lt;br /&gt;
|Role in Benghazi and decades worth of scandals going back to the 90s, feminist.&lt;br /&gt;
|Claims not interested now, but will likely run anyways.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Joe Biden]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Tries to set image as he's 'one of the folks' even though he's a millionaire. He'll have Obama's Chicago machine.&lt;br /&gt;
|Very gaffe-prone, VP to an unpopular administration.&lt;br /&gt;
|Currently yukking it up as Obama's Vice-President. Hasn't talked about running...yet. Should be good seeing how him and Hillary deal with each other on the stage.  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Andrew Cuomo]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Tried to make himself look like a fiscal conservative, he's part of a political family like Jeb and Hillary.&lt;br /&gt;
|Uncompelling, declared intentions to confiscate guns from lawful gun owners. &lt;br /&gt;
|His father, the former Governor, has already said he intends for him to run.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Mark Warner]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Senator from a swing state with a relatively moderate record who voted against the [[NDAA]], all of which might give him points with independents that the other Democrats won't have.&lt;br /&gt;
|He still votes with his party most of the time.&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Martin O'Malley]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Partisan, anti-war liberal. &lt;br /&gt;
|Martin who? He has low name recognition. Fiercely supports raising taxes, although that might help in the primary.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Elizabeth Warren]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Popular in [[Occupy Wall Street]] and other progressive circles.&lt;br /&gt;
|Caught lying about being a Native American so she could get [[affirmative action]] at Harvard, her very liberal record and rhetoric probably won't resonate in states less liberal than [[Massachusetts]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Just won election to the Senate against [[Scott Brown]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Evan Bayh]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
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|}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: United States Presidential Elections]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Hugo Chavez</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Dictator bio&lt;br /&gt;
| image        =[[Image:chavez.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
| name         =Hugo Chavez&lt;br /&gt;
| birth        =July 28, 1954&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Sabaneta, Venezuela&lt;br /&gt;
| parents      =Hugo de los Reyes Chávez&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Elena Frías de Chávez&lt;br /&gt;
| religion     =Roman Catholic&lt;br /&gt;
| education    =Daniel Florencio O'Leary High School, Barinas&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Venezuelan Academy of Military Sciences, Caracas&lt;br /&gt;
| spouse       =Nancy Colmenares (div.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Marisabel Rodríguez (div.)&lt;br /&gt;
| children     =Rosa Virginia&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;María Gabriela&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Hugo Rafael&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Rosinés (with Marisabel)&lt;br /&gt;
| death        =Possible around 11 December 2012, likely in Havana.&lt;br /&gt;
| deathmanner  =Likely cancer&lt;br /&gt;
| burial       =unknown&lt;br /&gt;
| country      =[[Venezuela]]&lt;br /&gt;
| military     =Venezuelan army&lt;br /&gt;
| rank         =Lieutenant colonel&lt;br /&gt;
| polbeliefs   =[[Socialism]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Communism]]&lt;br /&gt;
| party        =Fifth Republic Movement&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;United Socialist Party&lt;br /&gt;
| dictatordate =November 2000&lt;br /&gt;
| war          =n/a&lt;br /&gt;
| deathnumber  =n/a&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías''' (b. July 28, 1954, d. ca. 11 December 2012) has been the repressive [[leftist]] [[tyrant]] of the Bolivarian Republic of [[Venezuela]].  Chavez has not been seen in public since December 11, 2012. Venezuela's [[communist]] regime may be resorting to [[liberal denial]] about his death, as in the case of [[Cuba]]'s [[Fidel Castro]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A self-proclaimed [[socialist]] and [[collectivist]], his disastrous economic policies have led to food shortages, quotas, and rationing in his oil-rich country, causing thousands to flee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/4938993/Venezuelas-Hugo-Chavez-tightens-state-control-of-food-amid-rocketing-inflation-and-food-shortages.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Chávez assumed power as President in 1999 and pledged to aid Venezuela's poor majority. &lt;br /&gt;
Fraudulent elections were held in 2000 and in 2006, allowing Chavez to retain his [[Authoritarianism|authoritarian]] power. As such it would be accurate to describe him as a [[dictator]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{Venezuela blunder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to an illness, in early April 2012 &amp;quot;Hugo Chavez weeps and calls on [[God]] to spare his life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9189962/Hugo-Chavez-weeps-and-calls-on-God-to-spare-his-life.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That contrasts with Jesus's request in his time of crisis, when [[Jesus]] prayed, &amp;quot;O Father, if You can, let this cup pass from Me. But ''don't do what I want, but rather what You want''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#26:39|Matthew 26:39]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On 7 October 2012, Chávez won election as president for a fourth time, defeating Henrique Capriles, and will serve another six years until 2019.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/08/venezuela-election-idUSL1E8L70WK20121008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Election fraud==&lt;br /&gt;
Steven F. Hayward wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
* While exit polls conducted by the very reliable American firm of Penn, Schoen, and Berland showed Chavez losing by a large margin (41 to 59), the official results put Chavez free and clear by a vote of 58 to 41 percent.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5A8D0094-4590-4DFB-A7F0-C2E06A6820FB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 26 February 2003 report by Robert Tracinski obliterates the left-wing mythology around Chavez:&lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step one''': Chavez has initiated formal proceedings to revoke the licenses of independent, privately owned television and radio stations. Meanwhile, his political militias, the Bolivarian Circles, have staged violent attacks on independent media outlets. After all, elections don't mean much if all people watch is propaganda on state-run television. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step two''': Chavez has used a moratorium on currency conversion--needed to pay for imported goods--to punish his opponents. Vowing &amp;quot;no dollars for coup-mongers,&amp;quot; he has used this power, for example, to prevent opposition newspapers from importing ink. After all, elections don't mean much if your opponents are too busy worrying where their next meal is coming from. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step three''': Venezuelan police acting on Chavez's orders have arrested Carlos Fernandez, the head of Venezuela's largest business federation and a leader of the recent anti-Chavez strike, charging him with rebellion and sabotage. Another strike leader, Carlos Ortega, head of Venezuela's largest labor union, has gone into hiding. In one move, Chavez has neutralized two potential rivals for the presidency. After all, elections don't mean much if all of the other candidates are in jail. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step four''': Last week, four protesters were kidnapped while returning from an anti-Chavez rally. They were blindfolded, tortured, and shot execution-style. Some of the victims were witnesses to a previous pro-Chavez political killing, and they had planned to testify against the shooter. Consider the message sent to the opposition when the mutilated bodies of their friends start showing up in the city streets. After all, elections don't mean much if your opponents are afraid to leave their houses and walk to the polls. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step five''': A few days ago, Chavez delivered a speech denouncing Spain, Colombia, and the US for interfering in Venezuela. This morning in Caracas, the diplomatic missions of Spain and Colombia were bombed. Credit was claimed by a splinter pro-Chavez group--but this was not a bunch of kids cooking up homemade bombs in their basement. The bombs were powerful plastic explosives, the kind of weapons that are difficult to obtain without government complicity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/2514-dictatorship-by-the-numbers-in-venezuela.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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$4 billion dollars were spent paying paramilitary groups to attack unarmed protestors and other dissidents during and after the elections.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/2968-venezuela-a-new-junket-for-a-dictator-s-best-friend-jimmy-carter.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The European Union condemned the conditions placed on election monitors as unacceptable and declined to attend.  The Carter Center was shut out for three days.  Experts from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University have identified signs of fraud based on statistical analysis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/3924-the-carter-stamp-of-approval-on-the-venueuzlan-election-less-than-worthless.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human rights concerns==&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo Chávez is a great friend of the tyrannical [[Cuban]] despot [[Fidel Castro]] and is said to have drawn his political style through influences such as [[Che Guevara]], [[Karl Marx]] and [[Simon Bolivar]]. The U.S. State Department ''Report on Global Anti-Semitism'' cited Chavez in August 2004 warning citizens against following the lead of Jewish citizens in the effort to overturn his referendum victory.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/40258.htm Report on Global Anti-Semitism] U. S. Department of State, Bureau of Democracy, [[Human Rights]], and Labor, January 5, 2005. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Chavez has also embraced a number of world leaders that have hostile relations with the United States, including Holocaust-denier [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]], the President of [[Iran]], who Chavez has referred to as &amp;quot;my brother&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/07/31/en_pol_art_31A756133.shtml Chávez decorated in Iran; initials cooperation pacts]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; U.S. Speaker of the House of Representatives [[Nancy Pelosi]] said of Chavez, &amp;quot;Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern-day [[Simon Bolivar]], but all he is is an everyday thug.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/pruden092206.php3 Back to the old days, if only for a minute], Wesley Pruden, ''Jewish World Review'', Sept. 22, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He is also considered to be an ally of [[leftist]] [[Ecuador|Ecuadorian]] president [[Rafael Correa]], [[Bolivia|Bolivian]] president [[Evo Morales]] and the president of [[Nicaragua]], [[Daniel Ortega]] ... all radical leftists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6187364.stm Correa]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 2007, Chavez silenced the only remaining opposition television station critical of his repression by revoking its licence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela/story/0,,2085952,00.html Chávez silences critical TV station], Rory Carroll, ''The Guardian'', May 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Crowds of students demonstrated saying they feared for the future of human rights in Venezuala. National Guard troops were ordered to fire [[tear gas]] and [[rubber bullets]]. Two students were injured, a third was hit with a tear gas canister, and about 20 people needed emergency medical attention for inhaling tear gas. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/28/ap3763178.html Troops Fire Upon Protesters in Venezuela], Fabiola Sanchez, Associated Press, 05.28.07.  Retrieved from Forbes.com 05/31/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Chavez employs discrimination against [[migrant workers]] in the country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/3924-the-carter-stamp-of-approval-on-the-venueuzlan-election-less-than-worthless.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chavez has said, “I am going to go after those who resist the revolution and eliminate them one by one.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2007/jul/07/guest_commentary_we_must_help_venezuela_because_fr/ Because Freedom Matters], By U.S. Rep. Connie Mack IV and Blanquita Cullm, ''Naples Daily News'', July 7, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trafficking in Persons===&lt;br /&gt;
Venezuela under Chavez has been on the U.S. State Department’s Tier 3 list for [[trafficking in persons]] since 2004, which means that the government is categorized as one that has failed to make significant efforts to bring itself into compliance with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking in persons. The State Department’s June 2007 Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report maintains that Venezuela is a source, transit, and destination country for women and children trafficked for [[sexual exploitation]] and [[forced labor]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Department of State, [http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2007/ Trafficking in Persons Report], June 12, 2007, p. 207.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Relations with US==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Chavez Obama.jpg|thumb|At the Fifth Summit of the Americas.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Foreign relations between the [[United States of America]] and [[Venezuela]] are presently unstable. Chavez often criticizes the United States for its 'imperialism' on his radio segment 'Alo Presidente', and alleges the United States's supported a 2002 coup in Venezuela which toppled Chávez momentarily and later removed by Chávez supporters, also known as 'Chávistas'. Venezuela is heavily dependent upon trade revenue from oil sales to the United States. Chavez has founded [[Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas|ALBA]] an international organization of leftist countries on the [[Caribic]]s and Southern America.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Terrorism===&lt;br /&gt;
In May 2006, the State Department determined that, pursuant to Section 40A of the [[Arms Export Control Act]], Venezuela was not fully cooperating with U.S. [[antiterrorism]] efforts. This triggered a prohibition on the sale or license of defense articles and services to Venezuela. Other countries on the Section 40A list include [[Cuba]], [[Iran]], [[North Korea]], and [[Syria]], not to be confused with the &amp;quot;state sponsors of&lt;br /&gt;
terrorism&amp;quot; list under Section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act of 1979, which currently includes Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. The State Department asserted that the Section 40A determination was based on Venezuela’s near lack of antiterrorism cooperation over the last year, citing its support for Iraqi insurgents and Iran’s development of nuclear capabilities, the country’s status as a safe haven for Colombian and Basque terrorist groups, and its effort to derail hemispheric efforts to advance counter-terrorism policies in the OAS. In May 2007, the State Department again included Venezuela in its annual Section 40A determination that it was not cooperating fully with U.S. antiterrorism efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late April 2007, the State Department issued its annual Country Reports on Terrorism, which asserted that President Chávez &amp;quot;persisted in public criticism of U.S. counterterrorism efforts, deepened Venezuelan relationships with Iran and Cuba, and was unwilling to prevent Venezuelan territory from being used as a safe haven&amp;quot; by Colombian terrorist groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been long-held suspicions that Chávez has supported leftist Colombian guerrillas, although Chávez denies such support. The State Department’s terrorism report maintains that units of Colombia’s two leftist terrorist groups — the [[Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia]] (FARC) and the [[National Liberation Army]] (ELN) — often crossed into Venezuela &amp;quot;to rest and regroup with relative impunity.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, according to the report, splinter groups of the FARC and a rightist terrorist group, the [[AUC|United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia]] (AUC) reportedly operate in various parts of the country and are involved in drug trafficking. The report maintained, however, that &amp;quot;it remained unclear to what extent the Venezuelan&lt;br /&gt;
Government provided material support to Colombian terrorists.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, according to the report, Venezuelan citizenship, identity, and travel documents remained easy to obtain, making the country a potentially attractive waystation for terrorists. In July 13, 2006, congressional testimony, the State Department’s Principal Deputy Coordinator for Counterterrorism, Frank Urbancic, asserted that the United States was detaining increasing numbers of third-country aliens at its borders carrying falsified or fraudulently issued Venezuelan documents. U.S. officials also have expressed concerns about President Chávez’s close relationship with Cuba’s Fidel Castro, but Chávez defends his relationship with Cuba. Overall Venezuelan support to Cuba is estimated to be more than $2 billion a year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Frances Robles and Phil Gunson, ''Cuba Spotlights Chávez Friendship,'' Miami Herald, January 26, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Venezuela supplies some 90,000 barrels of oil per day to Cuba on a concessionary basis under PetroCaribe. In return, Venezuela has received support from thousands of Cuban health care workers and sports instructors in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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During an April 2005 trip to Cuba, Presidents Chávez and Castro announced commercial deals worth over $400 million, including a joint shipyard to build small navy ships and a joint housing construction company. In January 2007, a delegation of Cuban officials visited Caracas and signed a number of agreements to increase economic linkages, including an agreement for joint oil exploration in both countries.&lt;br /&gt;
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PdVSA is also involved in refurbishing an unfinished oil refinery in Cienfuegos, Cuba. Beyond Latin America, the Bush Administration has expressed concerns with Venezuela’s growing relations with Iran. In February 2006, Secretary of State Rice referred to Venezuela, along with Cuba, as “sidekicks” of Iran in reference to those countries’ votes in the International Atomic Energy Agency against reporting Iran to the U.N. Security Council over its uranium enrichment program.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Pablo Bachelet, “Rice Bashes Venezuelan Leader, Politics,” Miami Herald, February 17, 2006; House International Relations Committee, Hearing on the Fiscal Year 2007&lt;br /&gt;
International Affairs Budget, Testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, February&lt;br /&gt;
16, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In testimony before the Senate Select Intelligence Committee in February 2006, Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte expressed concern that President Chávez &amp;quot;is seeking closer economic, military, and diplomatic ties with Iran and North Korea.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Senate Select Intelligence Committee, Hearing on World Wide Threats, Testimony of Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, February 2, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ran and Venezuela signed an agreement for a $200 million fund to finance joint investment and social projects, and commercial agreements in the early stages include plans for a cement factory, oil exploration in the Orinoco River belt, and a joint operation to build oil and liquid natural gas tankers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Steven Dudley, &amp;quot;Chávez’s Wooing of Iran Called Troubling,&amp;quot; Miami Herald, March 2, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During a visit by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Venezuela in mid-January 2007, the two countries announced they would use a $2 billion investment fund to finance projects in both countries and other countries as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Simon Romero, ''Iranian President Visits Venezuela to Strengthen Ties,'' New York Times, January 14, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Some Members of Congress have expressed concerns about relations between Venezuela and Iran. In the 110th Congress, H.Res. 435 (Klein) would, among its provisions, express concern over national security implications of the relationship between the leaders of Iran and Venezuela.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the ''Washington Post'' Chavez has been accused of supplying weapons to Colombian rebels, of financing Bolivian and Ecuadorian groups seeking to establish &amp;quot;Marxist&amp;quot; states, and of being, with Cuban leader Fidel Castro's guidance, a &amp;quot;[[subversion (political)|subversive]]&amp;quot; everywhere else in the region.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/25/AR2005082501420.html?nav=rss_world/centralamerica ''Dealing With the Good and Bad Hugo Chavez''], Marcela Sanchez The Washington Post 25 August 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Expropriation==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hugo-chavez8.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with Fidel Castro.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In typical socialist rhetoric, Chavez makes wild claims to fund the government by nationalizing foreign assets. Typical reasons include accusing companies of environmental damage and exploiting its workers. In 2010 alone, Chavez seized 195 companies. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/10/20/en_eco_art_a-total-of-195-busin_20A4631291.shtml A total of 195 businesses has been seized in 2010, El Universal, October 20, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Spanish-owned farm supply and U.S.-based Ohio bottle company were recently taken over. Other recognized multi-national companies such ExxonMobil, steel maker Sidor, cement company CEMEX fell to the same fate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wellsy.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/chavez-takes-over-venezuelan-plants-of-oh-company/ Chavez takes over Venezuelan plants of OH company, Wellsy's World, October 26, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Venezuala is supposed to compensate the companies but nobody expects Chavez to provide other than peanuts for assets he steals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Through Venezuela's state owned petroleum industry and membership in [[OPEC]], Chávez has now used powers granted to him by Parliament to increase oil prices, adding revenue for the Bolivarianist projects. Countries such as the United States have criticized Chávez for the increase in cost for crude oil.  Chavez is at the forefront of wanting to set crude oil prices at $60 a barrel minimum, according to the ''Asia Times''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/HL07Dj01.html ''Bush, OPEC and Chavez of Arabia''], Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, 7 December 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The state owned oil company PDVSA is estimated to have spent in excess of $120 million dollars sponsoring the [[Formula 1]] team, Willaims F1, so that they would give the Venezuelan Pastor Maldonado a seat.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Anti-semitism==&lt;br /&gt;
Chavez is known to be fiercely [[Anti-semitism|anti-semitic]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/hugo-ch-vez-s-jewish-problem-11455&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is the likely reason for his friendship and political alliance with Iranian dictator and [[Holocaust denial|holocaust denier]] [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402428.html&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. As a result of the anti-semitic policies of the Chavez regime and the wave of violent attacks on Venezuelan Jews that it has caused, the [[Jewish]] population of Venezuela has decreased by more than 50 percent since Chavez came to power.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/venezuela.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Drug trafficking==&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Associated Press'' reported in  July 2007 that since Chavez's ascension to power, illegal narcotics passing through Venezuela from [[Colombia]] has risen by as much as 30 tons a year and now accounts for roughly a third of the world's supply of [[cocaine]].  Mildred Camero who was in charge of Venezuela's anti-drug efforts stated, &amp;quot;[[Caracas]] is replacing [[Bogota]] as a center of everything related to drug operations.&amp;quot; Camero was fired in 2005 after reporting high-level corruption. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/01/ap3875048.html Venezuela Becomes Cocaine Conduit], By Ian James and Frank Bajak, ''Associated Press'', 1 July 2007. Retrieved from Forbes.com 8 July 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008 Chavez revealed that he himself regularly chews coca leafs, the leafs from which cocaine is made.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uk.reuters.com/article/2008/01/26/uk-venezuela-chavez-coca-idUKN2638848320080126 Venezuela's Chavez swaps coffee for coca in speech - Reuters]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This revelation casts serious doubts about his ability to function properly as a head of state and reach sound judgements.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religious==&lt;br /&gt;
Chavez demanded that [[Pope Benedict]] apologize for saying the Roman Catholic Church purified Indians in Latin America. Chavez called the treatment of Indians after [[Christopher Columbus]] landed in 1492 a &amp;quot;holocaust&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1819661120070519 Chavez demands Pope apologize for Indian comments], Reuters, May 19, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2011 Health Crisis and likely death==&lt;br /&gt;
On June 30th, 2011, the 56 year-old President admitted, in a televised speech, of having cancer. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13991906]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He sought medical treatments in communist Cuba, and likely died there sometime around 11 December 2012, the last time he appeared in public.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
*On closure of RCTV, claiming the network's broadcasts amounted to a &amp;quot;permanent attack on public morals&amp;quot; with cartoons that were &amp;quot;poisoned with hatred, violence and even sex.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;Private banks have to give priority to financing the industrial sectors of Venezuela at low cost...If banks don't agree with this, it's better that they go, that they turn over the banks to me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Previous Breaking News/Hugo Chavez|Articles about '''Hugo Chavez''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kim Jong Il]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Idi Amin Dada]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/] An in depth view on Venezuela under Hugo Chávez.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.latinbusinesschronicle.com/app/article.aspx?id=706] An overview of articles on Venezuela's business under Hugo Chávez.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-2_24_06_AVL.html ''Why The Left Should Cringe at The Mention of Hugo Chavez''], Alvaro Vargas Llosa, Independent Institute, February 24, 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmnew/is_200108/ai_kepm313968 ''Bolivar, Dictator or Paladin?''] Interview: Hugo Chavez talks about Venezuela, Maria Amparo Lasso, Newsweek, Aug 20, 2001.&lt;br /&gt;
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| image        =[[Image:chavez.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
| name         =Hugo Chavez&lt;br /&gt;
| birth        =July 28, 1954&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Sabaneta, Venezuela&lt;br /&gt;
| parents      =Hugo de los Reyes Chávez&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Elena Frías de Chávez&lt;br /&gt;
| religion     =Roman Catholic&lt;br /&gt;
| education    =Daniel Florencio O'Leary High School, Barinas&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Venezuelan Academy of Military Sciences, Caracas&lt;br /&gt;
| spouse       =Nancy Colmenares (div.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Marisabel Rodríguez (div.)&lt;br /&gt;
| children     =Rosa Virginia&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;María Gabriela&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Hugo Rafael&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Rosinés (with Marisabel)&lt;br /&gt;
| death        =Possible around 11 December 2012, likely in Havana.&lt;br /&gt;
| deathmanner  =Likely cancer&lt;br /&gt;
| burial       =unknown&lt;br /&gt;
| country      =[[Venezuela]]&lt;br /&gt;
| military     =Venezuelan army&lt;br /&gt;
| rank         =Lieutenant colonel&lt;br /&gt;
| polbeliefs   =[[Socialism]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Communism]]&lt;br /&gt;
| party        =Fifth Republic Movement&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;United Socialist Party&lt;br /&gt;
| dictatordate =November 2000&lt;br /&gt;
| war          =n/a&lt;br /&gt;
| deathnumber  =n/a&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías''' (b. July 28, 1954, d. ca. 11 December 2012) has been the repressive [[leftist]] [[tyrant]] of the Bolivarian Republic of [[Venezuela]].  Chavez has not been seen in public since December 11, 2012. Venezuela's [[communist]] regime may be resorting to [[liberal denial]] about his death, as in the case of [[Cuba]]'s [[Fidel Castro]].&lt;br /&gt;
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A self-proclaimed [[socialist]] and [[collectivist]], his disastrous economic policies have led to food shortages, quotas, and rationing in his oil-rich country, causing thousands to flee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/4938993/Venezuelas-Hugo-Chavez-tightens-state-control-of-food-amid-rocketing-inflation-and-food-shortages.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Chávez assumed power as President in 1999 and pledged to aid Venezuela's poor majority. &lt;br /&gt;
Fraudulent elections were held in 2000 and in 2006, allowing Chavez to retain his [[Authoritarianism|authoritarian]] power. As such it would be accurate to describe him as a [[dictator]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{Venezuela blunder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to an illness, in early April 2012 &amp;quot;Hugo Chavez weeps and calls on [[God]] to spare his life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9189962/Hugo-Chavez-weeps-and-calls-on-God-to-spare-his-life.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That contrasts with Jesus's request in his time of crisis, when [[Jesus]] prayed, &amp;quot;O Father, if You can, let this cup pass from Me. But ''don't do what I want, but rather what You want''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#26:39|Matthew 26:39]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On 7 October 2012, Chávez won election as president for a fourth time, defeating Henrique Capriles, and will serve another six years until 2019.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/08/venezuela-election-idUSL1E8L70WK20121008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Election fraud==&lt;br /&gt;
Steven F. Hayward wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
* While exit polls conducted by the very reliable American firm of Penn, Schoen, and Berland showed Chavez losing by a large margin (41 to 59), the official results put Chavez free and clear by a vote of 58 to 41 percent.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5A8D0094-4590-4DFB-A7F0-C2E06A6820FB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 26 February 2003 report by Robert Tracinski obliterates the left-wing mythology around Chavez:&lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step one''': Chavez has initiated formal proceedings to revoke the licenses of independent, privately owned television and radio stations. Meanwhile, his political militias, the Bolivarian Circles, have staged violent attacks on independent media outlets. After all, elections don't mean much if all people watch is propaganda on state-run television. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step two''': Chavez has used a moratorium on currency conversion--needed to pay for imported goods--to punish his opponents. Vowing &amp;quot;no dollars for coup-mongers,&amp;quot; he has used this power, for example, to prevent opposition newspapers from importing ink. After all, elections don't mean much if your opponents are too busy worrying where their next meal is coming from. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step three''': Venezuelan police acting on Chavez's orders have arrested Carlos Fernandez, the head of Venezuela's largest business federation and a leader of the recent anti-Chavez strike, charging him with rebellion and sabotage. Another strike leader, Carlos Ortega, head of Venezuela's largest labor union, has gone into hiding. In one move, Chavez has neutralized two potential rivals for the presidency. After all, elections don't mean much if all of the other candidates are in jail. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step four''': Last week, four protesters were kidnapped while returning from an anti-Chavez rally. They were blindfolded, tortured, and shot execution-style. Some of the victims were witnesses to a previous pro-Chavez political killing, and they had planned to testify against the shooter. Consider the message sent to the opposition when the mutilated bodies of their friends start showing up in the city streets. After all, elections don't mean much if your opponents are afraid to leave their houses and walk to the polls. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step five''': A few days ago, Chavez delivered a speech denouncing Spain, Colombia, and the US for interfering in Venezuela. This morning in Caracas, the diplomatic missions of Spain and Colombia were bombed. Credit was claimed by a splinter pro-Chavez group--but this was not a bunch of kids cooking up homemade bombs in their basement. The bombs were powerful plastic explosives, the kind of weapons that are difficult to obtain without government complicity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/2514-dictatorship-by-the-numbers-in-venezuela.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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$4 billion dollars were spent paying paramilitary groups to attack unarmed protestors and other dissidents during and after the elections.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/2968-venezuela-a-new-junket-for-a-dictator-s-best-friend-jimmy-carter.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The European Union condemned the conditions placed on election monitors as unacceptable and declined to attend.  The Carter Center was shut out for three days.  Experts from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University have identified signs of fraud based on statistical analysis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/3924-the-carter-stamp-of-approval-on-the-venueuzlan-election-less-than-worthless.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human rights concerns==&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo Chávez is a great friend of the tyrannical [[Cuban]] despot [[Fidel Castro]] and is said to have drawn his political style through influences such as [[Che Guevara]], [[Karl Marx]] and [[Simon Bolivar]]. The U.S. State Department ''Report on Global Anti-Semitism'' cited Chavez in August 2004 warning citizens against following the lead of Jewish citizens in the effort to overturn his referendum victory.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/40258.htm Report on Global Anti-Semitism] U. S. Department of State, Bureau of Democracy, [[Human Rights]], and Labor, January 5, 2005. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Chavez has also embraced a number of world leaders that have hostile relations with the United States, including Holocaust-denier [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]], the President of [[Iran]], who Chavez has referred to as &amp;quot;my brother&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/07/31/en_pol_art_31A756133.shtml Chávez decorated in Iran; initials cooperation pacts]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; U.S. Speaker of the House of Representatives [[Nancy Pelosi]] said of Chavez, &amp;quot;Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern-day [[Simon Bolivar]], but all he is is an everyday thug.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/pruden092206.php3 Back to the old days, if only for a minute], Wesley Pruden, ''Jewish World Review'', Sept. 22, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He is also considered to be an ally of [[leftist]] [[Ecuador|Ecuadorian]] president [[Rafael Correa]], [[Bolivia|Bolivian]] president [[Evo Morales]] and the president of [[Nicaragua]], [[Daniel Ortega]] ... all radical leftists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6187364.stm Correa]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 2007, Chavez silenced the only remaining opposition television station critical of his repression by revoking its licence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela/story/0,,2085952,00.html Chávez silences critical TV station], Rory Carroll, ''The Guardian'', May 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Crowds of students demonstrated saying they feared for the future of human rights in Venezuala. National Guard troops were ordered to fire [[tear gas]] and [[rubber bullets]]. Two students were injured, a third was hit with a tear gas canister, and about 20 people needed emergency medical attention for inhaling tear gas. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/28/ap3763178.html Troops Fire Upon Protesters in Venezuela], Fabiola Sanchez, Associated Press, 05.28.07.  Retrieved from Forbes.com 05/31/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Chavez employs discrimination against [[migrant workers]] in the country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/3924-the-carter-stamp-of-approval-on-the-venueuzlan-election-less-than-worthless.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chavez has said, “I am going to go after those who resist the revolution and eliminate them one by one.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2007/jul/07/guest_commentary_we_must_help_venezuela_because_fr/ Because Freedom Matters], By U.S. Rep. Connie Mack IV and Blanquita Cullm, ''Naples Daily News'', July 7, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trafficking in Persons===&lt;br /&gt;
Venezuela under Chavez has been on the U.S. State Department’s Tier 3 list for [[trafficking in persons]] since 2004, which means that the government is categorized as one that has failed to make significant efforts to bring itself into compliance with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking in persons. The State Department’s June 2007 Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report maintains that Venezuela is a source, transit, and destination country for women and children trafficked for [[sexual exploitation]] and [[forced labor]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Department of State, [http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2007/ Trafficking in Persons Report], June 12, 2007, p. 207.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Relations with US==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Chavez Obama.jpg|thumb|At the Fifth Summit of the Americas.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Foreign relations between the [[United States of America]] and [[Venezuela]] are presently unstable. Chavez often criticizes the United States for its 'imperialism' on his radio segment 'Alo Presidente', and alleges the United States's supported a 2002 coup in Venezuela which toppled Chávez momentarily and later removed by Chávez supporters, also known as 'Chávistas'. Venezuela is heavily dependent upon trade revenue from oil sales to the United States. Chavez has founded [[Bolivarian Alliance for the Americas|ALBA]] an international organization of leftist countries on the [[Caribic]]s and Southern America.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Terrorism===&lt;br /&gt;
In May 2006, the State Department determined that, pursuant to Section 40A of the [[Arms Export Control Act]], Venezuela was not fully cooperating with U.S. [[antiterrorism]] efforts. This triggered a prohibition on the sale or license of defense articles and services to Venezuela. Other countries on the Section 40A list include [[Cuba]], [[Iran]], [[North Korea]], and [[Syria]], not to be confused with the &amp;quot;state sponsors of&lt;br /&gt;
terrorism&amp;quot; list under Section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act of 1979, which currently includes Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. The State Department asserted that the Section 40A determination was based on Venezuela’s near lack of antiterrorism cooperation over the last year, citing its support for Iraqi insurgents and Iran’s development of nuclear capabilities, the country’s status as a safe haven for Colombian and Basque terrorist groups, and its effort to derail hemispheric efforts to advance counter-terrorism policies in the OAS. In May 2007, the State Department again included Venezuela in its annual Section 40A determination that it was not cooperating fully with U.S. antiterrorism efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late April 2007, the State Department issued its annual Country Reports on Terrorism, which asserted that President Chávez &amp;quot;persisted in public criticism of U.S. counterterrorism efforts, deepened Venezuelan relationships with Iran and Cuba, and was unwilling to prevent Venezuelan territory from being used as a safe haven&amp;quot; by Colombian terrorist groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been long-held suspicions that Chávez has supported leftist Colombian guerrillas, although Chávez denies such support. The State Department’s terrorism report maintains that units of Colombia’s two leftist terrorist groups — the [[Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia]] (FARC) and the [[National Liberation Army]] (ELN) — often crossed into Venezuela &amp;quot;to rest and regroup with relative impunity.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, according to the report, splinter groups of the FARC and a rightist terrorist group, the [[AUC|United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia]] (AUC) reportedly operate in various parts of the country and are involved in drug trafficking. The report maintained, however, that &amp;quot;it remained unclear to what extent the Venezuelan&lt;br /&gt;
Government provided material support to Colombian terrorists.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, according to the report, Venezuelan citizenship, identity, and travel documents remained easy to obtain, making the country a potentially attractive waystation for terrorists. In July 13, 2006, congressional testimony, the State Department’s Principal Deputy Coordinator for Counterterrorism, Frank Urbancic, asserted that the United States was detaining increasing numbers of third-country aliens at its borders carrying falsified or fraudulently issued Venezuelan documents. U.S. officials also have expressed concerns about President Chávez’s close relationship with Cuba’s Fidel Castro, but Chávez defends his relationship with Cuba. Overall Venezuelan support to Cuba is estimated to be more than $2 billion a year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Frances Robles and Phil Gunson, ''Cuba Spotlights Chávez Friendship,'' Miami Herald, January 26, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Venezuela supplies some 90,000 barrels of oil per day to Cuba on a concessionary basis under PetroCaribe. In return, Venezuela has received support from thousands of Cuban health care workers and sports instructors in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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During an April 2005 trip to Cuba, Presidents Chávez and Castro announced commercial deals worth over $400 million, including a joint shipyard to build small navy ships and a joint housing construction company. In January 2007, a delegation of Cuban officials visited Caracas and signed a number of agreements to increase economic linkages, including an agreement for joint oil exploration in both countries.&lt;br /&gt;
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PdVSA is also involved in refurbishing an unfinished oil refinery in Cienfuegos, Cuba. Beyond Latin America, the Bush Administration has expressed concerns with Venezuela’s growing relations with Iran. In February 2006, Secretary of State Rice referred to Venezuela, along with Cuba, as “sidekicks” of Iran in reference to those countries’ votes in the International Atomic Energy Agency against reporting Iran to the U.N. Security Council over its uranium enrichment program.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Pablo Bachelet, “Rice Bashes Venezuelan Leader, Politics,” Miami Herald, February 17, 2006; House International Relations Committee, Hearing on the Fiscal Year 2007&lt;br /&gt;
International Affairs Budget, Testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, February&lt;br /&gt;
16, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In testimony before the Senate Select Intelligence Committee in February 2006, Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte expressed concern that President Chávez &amp;quot;is seeking closer economic, military, and diplomatic ties with Iran and North Korea.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Senate Select Intelligence Committee, Hearing on World Wide Threats, Testimony of Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, February 2, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ran and Venezuela signed an agreement for a $200 million fund to finance joint investment and social projects, and commercial agreements in the early stages include plans for a cement factory, oil exploration in the Orinoco River belt, and a joint operation to build oil and liquid natural gas tankers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Steven Dudley, &amp;quot;Chávez’s Wooing of Iran Called Troubling,&amp;quot; Miami Herald, March 2, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During a visit by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Venezuela in mid-January 2007, the two countries announced they would use a $2 billion investment fund to finance projects in both countries and other countries as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Simon Romero, ''Iranian President Visits Venezuela to Strengthen Ties,'' New York Times, January 14, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Some Members of Congress have expressed concerns about relations between Venezuela and Iran. In the 110th Congress, H.Res. 435 (Klein) would, among its provisions, express concern over national security implications of the relationship between the leaders of Iran and Venezuela.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the ''Washington Post'' Chavez has been accused of supplying weapons to Colombian rebels, of financing Bolivian and Ecuadorian groups seeking to establish &amp;quot;Marxist&amp;quot; states, and of being, with Cuban leader Fidel Castro's guidance, a &amp;quot;[[subversion (political)|subversive]]&amp;quot; everywhere else in the region.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/25/AR2005082501420.html?nav=rss_world/centralamerica ''Dealing With the Good and Bad Hugo Chavez''], Marcela Sanchez The Washington Post 25 August 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Expropriation==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hugo-chavez8.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with Fidel Castro.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In typical socialist rhetoric, Chavez makes wild claims to fund the government by nationalizing foreign assets. Typical reasons include accusing companies of environmental damage and exploiting its workers. In 2010 alone, Chavez seized 195 companies. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/10/20/en_eco_art_a-total-of-195-busin_20A4631291.shtml A total of 195 businesses has been seized in 2010, El Universal, October 20, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Spanish-owned farm supply and U.S.-based Ohio bottle company were recently taken over. Other recognized multi-national companies such ExxonMobil, steel maker Sidor, cement company CEMEX fell to the same fate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wellsy.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/chavez-takes-over-venezuelan-plants-of-oh-company/ Chavez takes over Venezuelan plants of OH company, Wellsy's World, October 26, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Venezuala is supposed to compensate the companies but nobody expects Chavez to provide other than peanuts for assets he steals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Through Venezuela's state owned petroleum industry and membership in [[OPEC]], Chávez has now used powers granted to him by Parliament to increase oil prices, adding revenue for the Bolivarianist projects. Countries such as the United States have criticized Chávez for the increase in cost for crude oil.  Chavez is at the forefront of wanting to set crude oil prices at $60 a barrel minimum, according to the ''Asia Times''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/HL07Dj01.html ''Bush, OPEC and Chavez of Arabia''], Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, 7 December 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The state owned oil company PDVSA is estimated to have spent in excess of $120 million dollars sponsoring the [[Formula 1]] team, Willaims F1, so that they would give the Venezuelan Pastor Maldonado a seat.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Anti-semitism==&lt;br /&gt;
Chavez is known to be fiercely [[Anti-semitism|anti-semitic]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/hugo-ch-vez-s-jewish-problem-11455&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is the likely reason for his friendship and political alliance with Iranian dictator and [[Holocaust denial|holocaust denier]] [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402428.html&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. As a result of the anti-semitic policies of the Chavez regime and the wave of violent attacks on Venezuelan Jews that it has caused, the [[Jewish]] population of Venezuela has decreased by more than 50 percent since Chavez came to power.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/venezuela.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Drug trafficking==&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Associated Press'' reported in  July 2007 that since Chavez's ascension to power, illegal narcotics passing through Venezuela from [[Colombia]] has risen by as much as 30 tons a year and now accounts for roughly a third of the world's supply of [[cocaine]].  Mildred Camero who was in charge of Venezuela's anti-drug efforts stated, &amp;quot;[[Caracas]] is replacing [[Bogota]] as a center of everything related to drug operations.&amp;quot; Camero was fired in 2005 after reporting high-level corruption. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/01/ap3875048.html Venezuela Becomes Cocaine Conduit], By Ian James and Frank Bajak, ''Associated Press'', 1 July 2007. Retrieved from Forbes.com 8 July 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008 Chavez revealed that he himself regularly chews coca leafs, the leafs from which cocaine is made.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uk.reuters.com/article/2008/01/26/uk-venezuela-chavez-coca-idUKN2638848320080126 Venezuela's Chavez swaps coffee for coca in speech - Reuters]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This revelation casts serious doubts about his ability to function properly as a head of state and reach sound judgements.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religious==&lt;br /&gt;
Chavez demanded that [[Pope Benedict]] apologize for saying the Roman Catholic Church purified Indians in Latin America. Chavez called the treatment of Indians after [[Christopher Columbus]] landed in 1492 a &amp;quot;holocaust&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1819661120070519 Chavez demands Pope apologize for Indian comments], Reuters, May 19, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2011 Health Crisis==&lt;br /&gt;
On June 30th, 2011, the 56 year-old President admitted, in a televised speech, of having cancer. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13991906]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
*On closure of RCTV, claiming the network's broadcasts amounted to a &amp;quot;permanent attack on public morals&amp;quot; with cartoons that were &amp;quot;poisoned with hatred, violence and even sex.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;Private banks have to give priority to financing the industrial sectors of Venezuela at low cost...If banks don't agree with this, it's better that they go, that they turn over the banks to me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Previous Breaking News/Hugo Chavez|Articles about '''Hugo Chavez''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kim Jong Il]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Idi Amin Dada]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/] An in depth view on Venezuela under Hugo Chávez.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.latinbusinesschronicle.com/app/article.aspx?id=706] An overview of articles on Venezuela's business under Hugo Chávez.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-2_24_06_AVL.html ''Why The Left Should Cringe at The Mention of Hugo Chavez''], Alvaro Vargas Llosa, Independent Institute, February 24, 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmnew/is_200108/ai_kepm313968 ''Bolivar, Dictator or Paladin?''] Interview: Hugo Chavez talks about Venezuela, Maria Amparo Lasso, Newsweek, Aug 20, 2001.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Socialists]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Overrated Sports Stars</title>
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&lt;div&gt;The [[lamestream media]] like to promote athletes based not on skill, but for [[liberal]] reasons.  Here's a growing list of the most overrated sports stars (notice how none are on the list of [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Sports Stars|Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]]):&lt;br /&gt;
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#[[Andre Agassi]] &amp;amp;mdash; his rival [[Pete Sampras]] was far better, but Sampras is [[conservative]].  Agassi is a big donor to [[Democrat]] politicians.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Lance Armstrong]]  &amp;amp;mdash; favored by the [[liberal media]] because he publicly denied belief in [[God]], he possibly pulled off the biggest scam in the history of sports by &amp;quot;winning&amp;quot; the [[Tour-de-France]] seven times with what has been described as &amp;quot;the most sophisticated, professionalized and successful doping program that sport has ever seen.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[David Beckham]] - retired early to the weak American MLS league, so his wife could shop in Beverly Hills; his own [[British]] [[2012 Summer Olympics]] team did not even want him; his real skill seems to be in catering to the [[liberal media]].&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Kobe Bryant]] &amp;amp;mdash; was an overhyped bust at the [[2012 Summer Olympics]]; hasn't won a single title without super-coaching by Phil Jackson, who observes that Kobe is not on the high level of [[Michael Jordan]]; Kobe makes only 46% of his shots, and scores lots of points merely because he hogs the ball.&lt;br /&gt;
#Boomer Esiason &amp;amp;mdash; the [[liberal media]] like how he criticizes [[conservative]] [[Tim Tebow]], but Esiason couldn't get the job done himself when he was a player: Esiason failed to win championships despite expectations.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[LeBron James]] &amp;amp;mdash; 2012's NBA Finals MVP is far from the best player in the [[NBA]], he is way overrated by the liberal ESPN compared to Christian Kevin Durant, who outscored James and Bryant in the Olympics&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Magic Johnson]] &amp;amp;mdash; lucky enough to play on [[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]]'s Lakers to win some titles, but was crushed by [[Michael Jordan]] and the Bulls; no problem, Magic was a critic of President [[George H.W. Bush]], which thrilled liberals.&lt;br /&gt;
#*People look at him, and say, 'Hey, it's OK to get HIV because I'm living with it.' That is the wrong message. [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500202_162-57319698/20-years-since-magic-johnsons-hiv-stunner/]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Peyton Manning]] &amp;amp;mdash; a [[quarterback]] who won only one [[NFL]] championship, despite being voted by the media and others to be NFL MVP 4 times, AFC Player of the Year 6 times, and Pro Bowler 11 times.  The [[liberal media]] treated him like the Second Coming of [[Christ]] in order to oust [[conservative]] [[Tim Tebow]] from his leadership position in the [[swing state]] of [[Colorado]] prior to the [[Presidential Election 2012]].  After replacing Tebow, Manning threw two big interceptions to lead the Broncos to a humiliating exit from the 2013 playoffs.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Steve Nash]] &amp;amp;mdash; an [http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2009/3/25/809516/steve-nash-on-media-bias-t outspoken liberal who supported Obama], Nash was chosen ''twice'' by the [[lamestream media]] as the [[NBA]] MVP despite never leading his team to even an NBA Finals.  Even worse, the former coach of Nash was then hired by the Lakers in late 2012, rather than a far better coach who was available.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Mark Sanchez]] &amp;amp;mdash; the [[New York Jets]] [[quarterback]] is being touted as the team's best QB over [[conservative]] [[Christian]] [[Tim Tebow]] despite falling apart at the end of the 2011–12 season. Now that Tebow's on-board, [[liberals]] are championing the former [[USC]] star as the superior player despite his mediocre play throughout his career.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Tiger Woods]] &amp;amp;mdash; hasn't won a major golf tournament in four years, and yet he's still the only one liberals want to talk about while reporting on tournaments. Had a spectacular early career, but his performances got worse and worse due to his womanizing and partying lifestyle.   Has never attained his promise.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Danica Patrick]] - Has won a single race in the Indy Car series, but has yet to win a race in either the NASCAR Sprint Cup or Nationwide series, finishing no higher than fourth, although ESPN promotes her first and foremost when showing highlights of the NASCAR races in which she participates.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wayne Rooney]] - Burst onto the scene as a 16 year old and called &amp;quot;The English Pele&amp;quot;. 10 years on and he has still failed to fulfill his potential, especially at international level, and still behaves like a childish immature 16 year old.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Ronaldinho]] - looked like a wonderful player in early years, but quickly became overweight due to his 'partying' lifestyle.   Fired from minor Brazilian team, he declared he's finally &amp;quot;just going to party&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Cristiano Ronaldo]] - his spectacular talents have been ruined by his self-obsession, vanity and cravings of celebrity.   He is now officially &amp;quot;sad&amp;quot;, despite being one of the luckiest men alive.&lt;br /&gt;
(please revise or add to list)&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Conservapedia Proven Right]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:sports]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Great Achievements by Teenagers</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* Achievements, listed by age at which they were made */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Most of the '''great achievements''' throughout history in the fields of art, culture, science and technology have been by '''teenagers'''. This may be because they are able to think in new and innovative ways, or their thinking is not hidebound by discredited nostrums. It may be due to the emergence of God-given talent at an early age, and the natural open-mindedness of young people before they may experience attempts to indoctrinate them towards certain worldviews. Biologically the rate of brain development, and according to some studies [[IQ]], reportedly peak in smart individuals just prior to their teenage years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://articles.latimes.com/2006/mar/30/science/sci-brain30&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Achievements, listed by age at which they were made==&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''7''' - Yehudi Menuhin gives his first solo violin performance with the San Francisco Symphony in 1923.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''8''' - [[Frederic Chopin]] plays his first public piano performance, having already authored two polonaises (G minor and B flat major) at age 7.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''10''' - [[Mark]], author of the [[Gospel of Mark]], witnesses the arrest of Jesus and develops the first [[Gospel]].&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--* '''10''' - Michael Kearney, [[homeschooled]], becomes the world's youngest university graduate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;He earned a bachelor's degree from the University of South Alabama.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;At age 17, began a teaching career at college.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080617185918AAum3vj Who is the YOUNGEST person to graduate college?] Yahoo Answers&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''12''' - [[Blaise Pascal]] had secretly worked out the first twenty-three propositions of Euclid by himself.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''12''' - [[Jesus]] presents His wisdom in the temple in [[Jerusalem]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''12''' - William &amp;quot;Willie&amp;quot; Johnson earned the [[Medal of Honor]] for his actions during the [[Seven Days Battle]] and on the [[Peninsula Campaign]] during the [[American Civil War]]. [http://www.homeofheroes.com/moh/citations_1862_cwh/johnston_willie.html]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!--* '''13''' - [[Jonathan Krohn]] homeschooled, actor, internet radio host, guest speaker at [[CPAC]], author of ''Defining Conservatism''. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''13''' - [[John]] wrote the first draft of the [[Gospel of John]], the greatest written work of all time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mystery:Was John a Child?]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''13''' - [[Joan of Arc]] was inspired and led [[France]] five years later to victory over the English in the [[Hundred Years War]]; was martyred at age 19.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.discoverfrance.net/France/History/Joan_of_Arc.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''13''' - [[Anne Frank]] began writing her diary, later published as &amp;quot;Anne Frank: The Diary of a Young Girl.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - [[David]] slays [[Goliath]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - Ismail founded the Safavid dynasty and became its &amp;quot;shah&amp;quot; (military and spiritual ruler)&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - [[Bobby Fischer]] became an International [[Chess]] Grandmaster.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - [[Mozart]] wrote the opera, &amp;quot;Mitridate Rè di Ponto.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - [[Nadia Comaneci]] &amp;quot;achieved in her sport what no [[Olympian]], male or female, ever had before: perfection.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/events/1996/olympics/daily/july25/flashback.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - [[St. Theresa of Lisieux]] rejected by Bishop Hugonin, pleads with Pope Leo XIII so she may enter the Carmelites. Became Carmelite nun at age 15. &lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - Bernadette Soubirous (St Bernadette of Lourdes) has a vision of the Virgin Mary&lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - The publication of Charles Schulz's first drawing of a dog, which became an inspiration for his cartoon strip ''Peanuts'' about a dog named Snoopy&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ripleys.com/weird/daily-dose-of-weird-wtf-blog/unbelievable-but-true/charles-schults-snoopy-was-first-a-believe-it-or-not/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* '''14''' - Aaron Swartz develops RSS. Swartz would go on to contest the private ownership of data by trying to liberate millions of academic articles from a corporation.  &lt;br /&gt;
*'''15''' -  Jack Andraka developed a new method to detect pancreatic [[cancer]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/education/competitions/international-science-and-engineering-fair/winners.htl]&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''15''' - [[Louis Braille]] invented the [[Braille]] system.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''15''' - [[Christopher Paolini]] writes the first draft of his [[Eragon]] trilogy which is published when he is 19.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''16''' - Jean-François Champollion, can speak a dozen languages and delivers a paper on the Coptic language to the Grenoble Academy. By 20, he can speak another 13 languages and at 32 he deciphers the [[Rosetta Stone]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''16''' - Boy sailor Jack Cornwall, of HMS Chester, is awarded a [[posthumous]] [[VC]] for gallantry at the [[Battle of Jutland]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''16''' - the average age of 58 [[homeschooled]] teenagers who founded Conservapedia, so that the light of truth would continue to shine and darkness would not overcome it.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''16''' - [[Sun Myung Moon]] writes [[Crown of Glory]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''17''' - Cassie Bernall defended her [[faith]] in front of an [[atheistic]] gunman at the [[Columbine massacre]], and was martyred for it&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Two witnesses, Craig Scott and Joshua Lapp, confirmed a question-and-answer confrontation; others said Cassie was praying when murdered.[http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/c/cassie.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''17*''' - [[Mary]] accepts [[God]]'s will to conceive [[Jesus]] by the [[Holy Spirit]], and gives birth nine months later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mary's exact age is not known, but she was old enough to marry under Jewish law and was almost certainly a teenager.[http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15464b.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''17''' - Shawn Fanning develops the first large-scale peer-to-peer file sharing program, Napster&lt;br /&gt;
* '''17''' - Private 1st Class Jacklyn H. Lucas, [[United States Marine Corps]], earned the [[Medal of Honor]] five days after his 17th birthday during the [[Iwo Jima]] battle in [[World War II]]; he was a Marine for ''three years''. [http://www.homeofheroes.com/moh/citations_living/ii_mc_lucas.html]&lt;br /&gt;
* '''17''' - [[Pele]] scored six goals in four games in the 1958 [[World Cup]], including perhaps the finest goal ever in the finals, leading [[Brazil]] to the championship.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''18''' - Lila Rose, a [[UCLA]] student who had been [[homeschooled]], goes undercover and does a stinging expose of an [[abortion]] clinic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2007/may/07051504&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''18''' - Shawn Goldsmith from Long Island has earned all 121 merit badges offered by the Boy Scouts. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473964,00.html Boy Scout Earns All 121 Merit Badges] AP, December 30, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''18''' - [[Mary Shelley]] writes Frankenstein (The Modern Prometheus), later published when she was 21.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''18''' - [[Kasparov|Garry Kasparov]], considered the greatest [[chess]] player ever, won the [[U.S.S.R.]] championship.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - Captain Albert Ball, [[VC]], MC, DSO &amp;amp; 2 bars, commences his career as a fighter pilot. By the time he is killed, aged 20, in 1917, he has become one of the [[First World War]]'s greatest air aces, accounting for at least 44 [[German]] aircraft.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - was the average age of front-line [[US]] service personnel fighting to defend democracy in [[Indochina]] during the [[Vietnam War]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - [[Evariste Galois]] applies [[group theory]] to the unsolvability of polynomial equations, before his death in a duel at age 20.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - Kirani James won the first [[Olympics|Olympic]] gold medal for the small nation of [[Grenada]], as the first non-[[America]]n to run 400 meters in less than 44 seconds.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - [[John D. Rockefeller]] starts a new company, turning an enormous profit in its first year, and became the most influential businessman in history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.notablebiographies.com/Pu-Ro/Rockefeller-John-D.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - [[Steve Jobs]] begins collaborating in electronics with Steve Wozniak&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventors/jobs.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in electronics, and developed the personal computer within two years.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - [[Mark Zuckerberg]] commercializes [[Facebook]], which later became the leading social networking system on the [[internet]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - Jim Ryun broke the world record for running the mile.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''19''' - [[Bill Gates]] co-founds [[Microsoft]].&lt;br /&gt;
* '''20''' - Carl Friedrich Gauss makes his first mathematical discoveries, which will lead to the completion of &amp;quot;Disquisitiones Arithmeticae&amp;quot;, his magnum opus, at the age of 21.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''20''' - Willis Carrier invents air conditioning.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''20''' - Trevor Bayne, who had been [[homeschooled]], became the youngest driver to win a Daytona 500 race.&lt;br /&gt;
* '''20''' - [[Tim Tebow]], who had been [[homeschooled]], became the first sophomore and also the youngest person to win the [[Heisman Trophy]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Subsequently, in 2009, a 19-year-old won the trophy also.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(add more, sorted by age and then alphabetically)&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Gallery of American Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Gallery of British Heroes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://listverse.com/miscellaneous/top-10-child-prodigies/ Top 10 Child Prodigies]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|right|thumb|'''Then-Senator Obama wearing traditional African garb''', a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Public opinion polls show that despite [[liberal denial]], at least one in five or 17% of Americans recognize that '''[[Barack Hussein Obama]]''' is a [[Muslim]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Little-Voter-Discomfort-with-Romney%E2%80%99s-Mormon-Religion.aspx|title=Little Voter Discomfort with Romney’s Mormon Religion|date=July 26, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013|work=Pew Research Center|quote= Currently, 17% of registered voters say that Obama is Muslim}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41248.html August 2010 Pew Research poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Obama himself has professed to be a Christian; When interviewed by ''Christianity Today'' magazine, Obama said:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;There is one thing that I want to mention that I think is important. Part of what we've been seeing during the course of this campaign is some scurrilous e-mails that have been sent out, denying my faith, talking about me being a Muslim, suggesting that I got sworn in at the U.S. Senate with a Quran in my hand or that I don't pledge allegiance to the flag. I think it's really important for your readers to know that I have been a member of the same church for almost 20 years, and I have never practiced Islam. I am respectful of the religion, but it's not my own. One of the things that's very important in this day and age is that we don't use religion as a political tool and certainly that we don't lie about religion as a way to score political points. I just thought it was important to get that in there to dispel rumors that have been over the Internet. We've done so repeatedly, but obviously it's a political tactic of somebody to try to provide this misinformation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/104-32.0.html?start=2|title=Q&amp;amp;A: Barack Obama|date=January 2008|work=Christianity Today|accessdate=January 4, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite these claims, many Americans realize that he is, in fact, a Muslim.  The following is a list of items that indicates that Obama is a Muslim:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's unusual selection of [[Chuck Hagel]], a former Republican senator most sympathetic to Muslim positions in the Middle East, to be Secretary of Defense despite intense objections by both political parties. Iranian State Press approves of the choice. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://freebeacon.com/iran-state-tv-praises-obamas-anti-israel-hagel-selection/ Iran State TV Praises Obama’s ‘anti-Israel’ Hagel selection]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama seems to emotionally hold a Muslim view about Israel, in contrast with Americans who have been educated as Obama has.  Obama has never visited Israel as president despite repeated criticisms of his failure to do so, he waited many days before even mentioning the rocket attacks on Israel in late 2012, and he doesn't appear comfortable even discussing issues related to Israel. &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-By-President-Obama-To-The-Turkish-Parliament/|title=REMARKS BY PRESIDENT OBAMA TO THE TURKISH PARLIAMENT|date=April 6, 2009|accessdate=January 8, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife [[Michelle Obama|Michelle]] does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until [[France]], but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to [[Jesus]] as &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Son of God rather than as &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; Son of God: &amp;quot;And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as '''''a'' Son of God''', but as a human being.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-jesus-son-god&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LA ''Times''. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Although Obama attended a [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as some do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;[[Saint Paul|Paul]]&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama also used his middle name when sworn in as President.  However, even if he were actually a [[Muslim]], he would ''not'' necessarily have to change his name according to Muslim tradition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;.http://zawaj.com/articles/do-muslim-converts-have-to-change-their-names.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has said &amp;quot;[[John McCain]] has not talked about [[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in an interview with [[George Stephanopoulos]] discussing whether John McCain's campaign has suggested that Obama is not a Christian. George Stephanopoulos -- who had previously been a high-ranking Democrat in the [[Clinton Administration]] -- then suggested that Obama change his answer to refer instead to &amp;quot;Christian faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/?page=all Christina Bellantoni, &amp;quot;Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics&amp;quot;, ''Washington Times'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: [[Allah]] is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the ''Autobiography of [[Malcolm X]]'', which was co-written by [[Alex Haley]], inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2007, while Obama was a candidate, the White House military office assigned him the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite news|url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/16/AR2007061601079.html?hpid=topnews|title='Renegade' Joins Race for White House|date=June 17, 2007|work=Washington Post|accessdate=January 8, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &amp;quot;[[Renegade]]&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', which originally meant &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which was a general discussion of US foreign policy that was on the non-fiction best-seller lists for weeks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although Zakaria had Muslim ancestors, he is a non-Muslim educated at Yale with a Ph.D. from Harvard.&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] allows adherents to deny they are Muslim if it would be dangerous not to.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;[[Pakistan]]&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama favors [[Pakistan]], a Muslim nation, in its conflicts with [[India]], a mostly [[Hindu]] nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Indian press has been highly critical of Obama about this. [http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/obama-india-relations-indispensible-pushes-placement-un]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, the Obama Administration's relationship with Pakistan could be driven by its critical role in the battle against [[al-Qaeda]] in [[Afghanistan]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in [[Chicago]] prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 [[Million Man March]] led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one [[mosque]]&amp;quot; in [[Kenya]] while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Hussein Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Liberal sources claim that this is due to security concerns.  However, in general, Presidents rarely attend weekly church services while in office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blackberry-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272#.T5jUxp8rpfV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet, the Obama family has attended Christian church serves at various times since becoming President in 2009.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/obamas-church-service-dc_n_1209002.html|title=Where The Obama Family Has Worshiped In D.C.|work=Huffington Post|date=January 16, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, Justice [[John Roberts]] failed to administer the [[oath of office]] correctly while Obama placed his hand on a Bible.  To avoid any claims that Obama was not the real President because of mis-stating the oath, Roberts dropped by the White House to re-administering the oath the next day, but no Bible was used for that private re-do of the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the [[G-20]] summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to [[Saudi Arabia|Saudi]] King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{dead link}}&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2006, Obama gave an irreverent speech about using the Bible in public policy. It resembled a stand-up comedy act, with Obama making fun of the books of the [[Torah]], the [[Ten Commandments]], the [[Sermon on the Mount]] and other key Biblical passages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2010, while Obama was president, the Missile Defense Agency changed its logo, incorporating a crescent and star.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://loganswarning.com/2010/02/23/us-missile-defense-agency-changes-logo-to-obamaislamic-crescent-hybrid/ US Missile Defense Agency Changes Logo to Obama~Islamic Crescent Hybrid!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo closely resembles that of the [[Iran]]ian Space Agency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prlog.org/10550380-missile-defense-agency-logo-new-twist-to-the-tale.html Missile Defense Agency Logo – A new twist to the tale]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo was designed in 2007, prior to Obama's election as president.&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2012, Obama participated in a $40,000 per plate fundraiser on [[Holy Thursday]], which many devout Christians would find to be inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*On September 25, 2012, in his address to [[United Nations General Assembly]], Obama said that &amp;quot;'''The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/ Transcript: Obama address to U.N. General Assembly] (September 25, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This outrageous comment was predictably ignored by the [[lamestream media]], but rightly highlighted by Conservative commentators.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/ Media ignore Obama attack on ‘those who slander the Prophet of Islam’] (September 26, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's spiritual mentor of 20 years, Rev. [[Jeremiah Wright]] explained in an interview &amp;quot;that Barack Obama was steeped in Islam when he first met him,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thenewamerican.com/component/k2/item/12165-obama-called-our-most-toxic-president?Itemid=667 Obama Called Our Most &amp;quot;Toxic&amp;quot; President, New American, July 20th 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and said he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having renounce his Islamic background. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/jeremiah-wright-i-made-it-comfortable-for-obama-to-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-islam/ Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report), The Gateway Pundit, may 10, 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obamacare]] has a provision enabling groups that have a religious objection to the individual mandate and who have forfeited the benefits of Social Security (such as the Amish) to claim a religious conscience opt-out of the individual mandate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5000A 26 U.S.C. 5000A (d)(2)(A)]; [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1402 26 U.S.C. 1402(g)(1)]; [https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110225035 &amp;quot;RM 10225.035 SSNs for the Amish and Mennonites (and Other Religious Exempt Communities)&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Muslims would not be eligible for a religious exemption from the individual mandate,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/137221/ Does your faith free you from forced Obamacare?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although other online commentators speculate that Muslims would be eligible for a religious exemption.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/2011/eric-burns/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/ Muslims Exempt from ObamaCare? FrontPage Magazine, Oct. 14, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama further impedes the Christian faith on gay rights, telling military chaplains a statutory provision that would allow military chaplains to opt-out of performing gay marriages is “unnecessary and ill-advised,” but he signed the bill into law anyway.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/obama-calls-conscience-clause-for-military-chaplains-ill-advised.html Obama calls Conscience Clause for Military Chaplains “Ill-Advised”, Fox News, January 3, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of [[Las Vegas]] for unknown reasons, and Obama has also criticized state lotteries despite being heavily favored by most [[Democrats]]. The reason may be that [[gambling]] is forbidden in the [[Koran]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and frowned upon by many Protestant denominations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CE0QFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efa2009.org%2Fpapers%2FSSRN-id1335855.pdf&amp;amp;ei=h7kUUPHTA8aBqgHysIHYCw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG1qfZFDgF1FpHG46FFDbMGzBu0Iw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*For the first time in our nation's history, Christian clergy will not deliver Obama's inauguration benediction. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/01/for-first-time-ever-obama-to-use-civil-rights-activist-and-not-clergy-to-deliver-benediction-at-inauguration/ For First Time Ever… Obama to Use Civil Rights Activist and Not Clergy to Deliver Benediction at Inauguration, Gateway Pundit, January 8, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, the planners for the second Obama inauguration have announced that three Bibles will be used to administer the oath: Michelle Obama's family Bible for a private oath on January 20 and [[Abramham Lincoln]]'s and [[Martin Luther King]]'s Bibles on January 21.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/10/obama-using-mlk-lincoln-b_n_2447174.html|title=Obama To Use MLK, Lincoln Bibles During Oath At Presidential Inauguration|first=Nebra|last=Pickler|date=January 10, 2013|accessdate=January 10, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya]]n [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (This obviously does not completely rule out the possibility that his father was a member of that 1%, because his father was in the small minority that left Kenya to be educated in the US.) There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in [[Massachusetts]] from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama toured a mosque in [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Muslim agenda of the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mystery:Why_Do_Some_Oppose_the_Likelihood_that_Obama_Is_Muslim%3F]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Obama Administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* High School Experiment */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==This article is complete garbage==&lt;br /&gt;
E=mc^2 is only a simplified version created to be understood easier. If people had put dedicated effort for any amount of time, they could find the truth behind it. And &amp;quot;the bible says it's false&amp;quot; does not work, especially since the rest of the world completely agrees with the theory of relativity.&lt;br /&gt;
http://news.discovery.com/space/the-famous-emc2-is-incomplete-gotta-see-video-121030.html&lt;br /&gt;
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:Beware of claims that the rest of the world completely agrees with something.  Unanimously passed legislation is often the very worst kind.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:21, 16 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::But wouldn't unanimously passed legislation be a good example of the [[Best of the Public]]?   [[User:Wonders|Wonders]] 23:31, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I'm Finding This a Little Hard to Understand==&lt;br /&gt;
First off, E = mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; describing a relationship between energy and matter is only one corollary. It is also part of a well known problem in chemistry... Or is isotopic mass not less than the sum of it's parts? The equation itself HAS been derived from the Theory of Relativity, and is a direct consequence of the energy momentum four vector for an object with 0-momentum. The quote you provide from the paper states that the theory is not enough for a rigorous PROOF, but it never tries to deny the derivability of the equation. Derivation and proof are two entirely different things.&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Article Could Use Sources or Better Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
Wow. Classic Andy. Unsourced statements supposedly contradicting well-established theories of physics. No real proof other than &amp;amp;quot;the Bible says it's not true,&amp;amp;quot; even though this is an extremely uncommon interpretation Genesis. --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 01:06, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's a start for now, and will expand over time.  That's how wikis work.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:18, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Doesn't it relate energy to mass? The speed of light is just a constant here. [[User:IanR|IanR]] 02:22, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Humbug ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The phrase ''meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement '' (as used in the article) fits  the first paragraph to a t.&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, please try to refute the explanation of the experiments of John Cockroft and Ernest Walton, which is accepted generally under physicists. And try to give some sources - or if not, some of your own calculations!&lt;br /&gt;
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If not, just erase the first section.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:23, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nobel Lecture ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I took out the link to the Nobel lecture, it can be found in the short summary. But be aware that John Cockroft is using the dreaded formula with ease (but without stating so explicitly - why should he, it's already generally accepted!) An astute reader, who not only searches for the formula finds e.g., the formulation:&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Indeed, these are the &amp;amp;asymp; 17MeV!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:51, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Irrelevant claims==&lt;br /&gt;
Are these claims of so called &amp;amp;quot;experimental verification&amp;amp;quot; valid or useful?  If you look at enough so-called science you can find people claiming anything. --[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 12:59, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:''you can find people claiming anything'' Indeed - and that's why there is a difference between the unsubstantiated claims in the first section, and the actual experiments in the following paragraphs. If you have a good explanation of the outcome of these experiments (some math would be nice), feel free to add your personal ''claim''.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:03, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why do you feel that I need to do that? I understand that you may wish to believe relativity is true, but that is no reason to impose your personal beliefs on others.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 13:40, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thinking that all claims have the same validity seems not a very conservative position. I don't expect you to accept my personal beliefs, but there is a tendency in physics that the claims which are backed up by those willing to do the experiments and the maths have a greater following than random insights. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:47, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't understand why your personal beliefs are even included in the article.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 13:58, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*Because they are bolstered by experiments...&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*...and they aren't just my beliefs - in fact it will be very hard to find a physicist who doesn't share them. And that's something which shouldn't be easy to ignore in an article on a physical subject.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:02, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If science is your religion then you will find scientists who share your views.  I still don't see why they should be hosted here.  The introduction makes the Biblical position clear.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 14:07, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Religion is my religion, science is my hobby. And just because there is one single interpretation of a few verses of Genesis out there which you think to contradict the experiments of the physicists doesn't shatter my religious beliefs nor my trust in physics. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:35, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Then why do you insist with this anti-religious pseudoscience?--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 14:41, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;larr; Now you have intrigued me: what's your definition of pseudoscience? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:45, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pssst! DavidEdwards! You're trying waaaaay too hard. --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 21:20, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Too hard about what?&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as the pseudoscience question is concerned - &amp;quot;science&amp;quot; which is used to promote a worldview which has no basis in moral reality is pseudoscience.  Science which is designed to suggest that morality is relative clearly falls into this category.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 18:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question==&lt;br /&gt;
This snipet of sentence appears in the introduction: &amp;amp;quot;...''a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.''&amp;amp;quot; Let's compare that to the entire sentence it was lifted from: &amp;amp;quot;'''''Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally,''' a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.''&amp;amp;quot; One can't help but notice that the part of the sentence that states that the theory has been observed to be valid in real world experimentation, has been surgically removed. Why is this? Is it because it stands in contradiction to the claim the lead author of this article is trying to promulgate? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 20:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Peer-reviewed journals won't publish a criticism of relativity.  That's obvious.  Although I don't have a copy of the full paper, I doubt it attempts to fully support the [[hearsay]] that was excluded, and I would not be surprised if it was included simply to safeguard against complaints for what followed.  It adds nothing to the basic point that follows and is quoted here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:19, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why won't a peer-reviewed journal publish a criticism of SR or GR? Liberal conspiracy? Also, do you not accept that mass and energy are interchangeable or is it a problem with this specific equation? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 21:24, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::JoshuaB, do you accept the possibility that the [[Theory of Relativity]] may be false, and would you approve a well-written paper that criticized it?  It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes. We already know the Theory of Relativity is an incomplete model of our universe. So yes, the theory may be &amp;amp;quot;false&amp;amp;quot;, but the one that takes it's place will most likely have many of the same properties. Secondly, would I approve of a  &amp;amp;quot;well-written paper that criticized it&amp;amp;quot;? I don't know what that means. I'm not a physicist, so I don't see what difference my &amp;amp;quot;approval&amp;amp;quot; of said paper would make. Now that I've been so kind as to answer your questions, would you return the courtesy and answer the ones I posted above? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 22:35, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The qualifications on your answer render it almost meaningless.  I'm not asking whether your approval of a paper would make a difference, or your opinion about whether you think the replacement of the [[Theory of Relativity]] will &amp;amp;quot;most likely&amp;amp;quot; be another theory of relativity.  The question was simple and straightforward, referring to a paper critical of the theory of relativity without any appeasement to those who insist on believing in it.  An unqualified answer is requested.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Also, did you ever answer my simple question on [[Talk:Main Page]] about how much time you've spent reading the [[Bible]] this month?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:50, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Come off it Schlafly. This article is not about my Bible reading, is it? No. Does my opinion of the publishing criteria of physics academia have any bearing on the assertions you are trying make? No. Again: Do you not accept that mass and energy are interchangeable or is it a problem with this specific equation? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 23:11, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Andy, do you accept the possibility that the Theory of Relativity may be correct, and would you approve a well-written paper or book that supported it? It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 03:28, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some points ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Misplaced claims of experimental verification'': if you want to put on the disclaimer ''misplaced'', please explain the results of the experiments in another way.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Why won't a peer-reviewed journal publish a criticism of SR or GR?'' But they do: remember the neutrino thing? Or the papers of H. Ives? In fact the first event has shown that especially the publication of experiments (seemingly) violating currently accepted theories gets attention!&lt;br /&gt;
*Taking only the second half of ''&amp;amp;quot;Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally, a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.&amp;amp;quot;'' makes you looking deceptive. Take the whole sentence and try to explain the motivation of the first half. Otherwise anyone who looks the quote up will suspect an ulterior motive!&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole first section is a train wreck.&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Mass]] is a measure of an object's inertia, and is directly related to the forces of [[gravity]].'' Only when you accept the general theory of relativity it is, otherwise inertial mass and gravitational mass are quite different animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have attempted to clarify the last point on the [[Mass]] page, and also removed the fact template from the first paragraph, since the explanation is given later on. As it stood, the &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; banners following important points tended to undercut the authority of the article.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:29, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The problem is not a confusion of weight and mass, but the conflation of gravitational and inertial mass. In the classical theory, there is no reason why both should be the same, it's just an experimental fact.&lt;br /&gt;
::So, I'm sorry, your new entry didn't help.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But they always are the same, aren't they? I don't see why knowing or not knowing the reason (yet) has any bearing on the question.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:43, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Aschlafly writes: ''Mass is a measure of an object's inertia, and is directly related to the forces of gravity. In contrast, the intrinsic energy of an object (such as an atom) is a function of electrostatic charge and other non-inertial forces, having nothing to do with gravity.''&lt;br /&gt;
::::E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; isn't about gravity, to invoke it here is a deflection. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:49, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: OK. But bear in mind that this page clearly exists to provide a counterweight to certain liberal views. To do that, clarity of message is needed, and a &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; banner has a deflating effect on the strength of that clarity. So perhaps you could suggest a wording that might be acceptable without the &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; bit?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:03, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, I can't. Frankly, I don't see the clarity in this piece: at the moment, it is still sadly missing. So I hope, that Aschlafly taking care of the fact-tags (other then trimming them away) will add to this clarity! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:13, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of how meaningless E=mc² is: descriptions for the layman  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Try to explain a complicated formula in 1-2min, then have a single sentence of this soundbit taken out. You can bet that this may sound meaningless. That's no fault of the formula. I'll change the title back. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:58, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The quotes (and others that could be added) illustrate how meaningless the formula is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:02, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The quotes illustrate how difficult it is to explain the concept to a layman. Take a look [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/expe-text.html here], where you can find the quotes in context. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:16, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The quotes were solicited to describe the meaning of the equation to laymen, not to illustrate how difficult that is.  The difficulty arises from the meaningless nature of the equation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually the meaning of the equation is very clear: the total energy contained in matter is its mass multiplied by the speed of light in a vaccum squared. Experiment after experiment, and nuclear reactor after nuclear reactor, has clearly demonstrated that the total energy released by a reaction is the lost mass multiplied by c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. Therefore whether the theories of relativity are true or not, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is true. Equally, even if classical Newtonian mechanics was false, the kinetic energy of a moving mass would still be accurately described by E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;k&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;=1/2mv&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:34, 28 March 2012 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
::::Indeed. Internet quotes are really not very useful. A skilled researcher can always find someone saying something to justify their position however bizarre or immoral.  This is a typical weakness (and response!) of those who have no real moral or religious basis for their convictions. --[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 19:04, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::These quotes are absolutely meaningless. It looks like you took random sentences from the PBS article and then inserted them into the article as if they had any real significance. This is made even more moot when you consider the fact that the article claims that &amp;quot;Ten top physicists were asked to describe in laymen's terms E=mc²&amp;quot; and then you go on to quote three. Not to mention, most of the quotes aren't actually explaining what the equation means - a basic understanding of algebra and what the symbols mean is sufficient to understand its basic meaning - but rather what it entails, its implications. Tim Halpin-Healy's quote I think is better than taking some random sentences and then implying that they mean that physicists don't know what E=mc² means. --[[User:Tyg13|Tyg13]] 15:58, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The problem is that '''E=m&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;does not meaning anythimg that makes sense.  Anyone is welcome to try to explain it here.  Eating a pound of cake does not cause one's energy to increase by the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:06, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No, it doesn't. It causes your energy to increase by a number of foot-pounds equal to '''one pound''' times the speed of light squared. I've explained this to you already and it isn't difficult. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:23, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The equation is essentially just a conversion ratio, its not difficult to understand that units of energy (Whether it is Joules, pound-foot, or erg) look essentially like a velocity squared times a mass (in SI units - kg m^2/s^2) this is not relativity or theory dependent, its the definition of Energy. The Special Relativistic analysis that results in the basic equation just determines that the conversion ratio is precisely that universal constant '''c''' in whatever units are convenient. There is no blindingly obvious or intuitive reason why this SHOULD be the case (conceivably the conversion ratio could have any number of complicated dimensionless constants in front), but basic mathematical logic allows us to derive this simple relationship from the postulates of Special Relativity. That being said, its a rather useless equation on everyday scales. In reality,  after consuming a pound of cake your body begins to break down the chemical bonds in the sugars/fats/proteins to extract usable energy, about 1500 food calories worth of it. If you had a precise enough scale and could somehow keep a human in a hermetically sealed bag that prevents the escape of any moisture/gas etc. you would be able to measure that after consuming and digesting the cake your bodyweight would not be +1 lb, but about 70 pg (picograms - 10^-12 grams) less, so if you weighed 150.0lb and ate a pound of cake (total of 151lb), after digestion you would actually weigh 70pg less than 151lb. It is important to note that this &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; isn't &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; it is merely the &amp;quot;weight&amp;quot; of the energy stored in the chemical bonds, in other words in a pound of cake there is (1lb - 70pg) of stuff and 70pg worth of &amp;quot;chemical energy&amp;quot; with a conversion ratio of c^2. If you had some magic machine that could convert mass to energy at 100% efficiency the detonation of a body sized bomb would release 20 times more energy than the largest nuclear weapon detonated by man kind, however due to the nature of nuclear transitions/processes such a 100% conversion rate is not possibe . On the scale of nuclear bonds (order of MeV) this difference becomes conceivably measurable, but even so, in the detonation of a hiroshima sized nuclear weapon, the loss of mass due to the nuclear fission is approximately 500mg, the rest of the nuclear material is dispersed as fallout, considering that there was ~60kg of nuclear material in the weapon, this corresponds to an energy &amp;quot;efficiency&amp;quot; ~1%, which is typical of fission devices. In a 100MT nuclear bomb this is conceivably larger at nearly 5kg, and the fusion type weapon that can achieve this high yields has considerably higher mass-energy conversion efficiency at around ~20% [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 16:53, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Another way of thinking about is this. Consider your typical AA batery, it is not a difficult stretch of the mind to understand that this battery stores electrical energy, approximately 2Ampere-hours at 1.5v which is approximately 5000J worth of STORED electical energy. Now, CONSUMING this battery does not cause your  kinetic energy to increase by 5000J the same way that consuming a pound of cake does not cause your kinetic energy to increase by 1lb*c^2, you are still limited by your ability to convert between different energy sources. So A RC car would be able to use that battery to move around for several hours, YOU on the other hand will most likely just pass the battery through your body and the basic chemicals that are storing this electric energy will come out unaltered. The same way that a pound of cake can sustain you for a day, but try stuffing it into the battery compartment of your RC car and it won't move an inch. &amp;quot;Mass-energy&amp;quot; works much the same way, sure consuming a pound of cake increases your &amp;quot;rest energy&amp;quot; or by an enormous amount, but in reality there is no way to convert mass directly to energy so its much the same as swallowing a battery or stuffing cake into the RC car. [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 17:05, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:At any rate, eating a pound of cake, is not nuclear physics, it is chemistry, where your cells digest and utilize the sugars within. Protiens are also converted into sugar.[[User:JonM|JonM]] 18:28, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Aschlafly, could you give us... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... your interpretation of the results of the experiment by Cockroft and Walton? Cockroft describes in his Nobel Lecture how the kinetic energy of the alpha-particles could be provided by ''diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass&lt;br /&gt;
units.'' (p. 170). Please take into account that this isn't about energy in form of electromagnetic waves! &lt;br /&gt;
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If you don't address the results of the actual experiments, all your claims are just meaningless verbiage.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:39, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cockcroft (please spell his name correctly) does not even cite E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; in his Nobel lecture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't think that it is ''implied'' by the quote that AugustO provided? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:10, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, I don't.  E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is supposedly a general truth of universal applicability.  The case for it, if true, needs to be far stronger than what is quoted above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:15, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the lecture: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, your ignorance is showing:&lt;br /&gt;
17.2 MeV /c&amp;amp;sup2; = 1.602*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;-19&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;kg m²/s² *17.2 *10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;9&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;/(3*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;8&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; m/s)² = 3.0616 * 10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;-29&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;kg = 0.0184 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact as this is such a ''general truth of universal applicability'',  J. Cockroft could take it for granted that his scientifically literate audience would be able to make this calculation.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:26, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::One question, though: We have four protons and four neutrons on the left hand side of the equation, and four protons and four neutrons on the right hand side. So why the difference in mass?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, forgive my ignorance, but why is the 'energy' measured in volts? Volts are not a measure of energy.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Bainbridge measured the mass of &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li directly, using mass spectrometry.&lt;br /&gt;
*Indeed, three protons and four neutrons weight less than a &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li - kernel&lt;br /&gt;
*Energy is measured in this cases in [[Electron-Volts]]. One electron volt is the energy of an electron which passed through a potential of 1 Volt.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:54, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:AugustO, please contribute something substantive instead of talking up a storm. Thanks.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 11:56, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::James Wilson, please don't interfere in interesting and substantive discussions. Thank you! [[User:Baobab|Baobab]] 12:12, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;amp;quot;Baobab&amp;amp;quot;, please state what substance is coming out of this conversation. You have had a history of engaging in hefty talk. Please start contributing. I have had some great insights contributing in a few articles today and will continue to do so. Many thanks for your future contributions.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 12:47, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&amp;amp;quot;James Wilson&amp;amp;quot;, AugustO is clarifying things and giving us some great insights, as CPalmer's latest reply shows. Discussions will often lead to better articles, which is why your interference was totally uncalled for. I guess your only motive was to defend Mr. Schlafly, but he can take care of himself and really doesn't need your help. Regards, [[User:Baobab|Baobab]] 13:30, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, AugustO. Relativity or no relativity, I am learning a lot from this discussion.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:00, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are posing excellent questions! Indeed it should be of interest for Aschlafly, too:&lt;br /&gt;
:::'''Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass?&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:42, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some &amp;quot;qualified person&amp;quot; has said it is true.  In reality you accept these things on the word of somebody else - in other words your belief in the existence of these particles is a matter of scientific faith in something which you have no personal knowledge.  There is obviously no problem with believing things on faith, but please don't pretend it's &amp;quot;true because science says it's true&amp;quot;. Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 18:49, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I find Mr O's position to be rather odd.  He insists that Mr Schlafly - and only Mr Schlafly answers his questions.  Yet at the same time Mr O steadfastly ignores comments specifically directed at him.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 16:11, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If you're referring to your question about how he knows that protons and neutrons really exist, I suspect he thought it wasn't worth answering. I tend to agree. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:15, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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@DavidEdwards: Sorry, [[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]], I didn't want to ignore you. I hadn't caught up after the databank mishap, I'm afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
So, to answer your questions: At school, we performed a couple experiments -there were teltron tubes, the Millikan  the photo-electric effect, the Millikan Oil Drop experiment, de Broglie's electron diffraction experiments, etc. These experiments confirmed my persuasion that the electrons, protons and neutrons are physically real entities. The proposed theories explained these effects - and sitting in front of a computer, I'm surprised that you aren't willing to accept the theories behind semi-conductors. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:25, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
@SamCoulter: There is some truth in your statement, too: it's like asking a priest: ''let's talk about your religion without mentioning Jesus''... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:28, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Restoration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I could restore this page to the last version which I had edited. I don't know whether there were more entries. This should help to restore the article: perhaps one positive effect could be that Aschlafly marvels about the questions in the previous section for a while and rethinks his position! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 18:36, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Instead of the source - tag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement in physics that purports to relate all matter to light.''&lt;br /&gt;
It relates matter to energy, the square of the speed of light is just the conversation factor&lt;br /&gt;
*''In fact, no theory has successfully unified the laws governing mass (i.e., gravity) with the laws governing light (i.e., electromagnetism).''&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't about gravitational mass, but about inertial mass. To identify both means to invoke the General Theory of Relativity&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Simply put, E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; is liberal claptrap. ''&lt;br /&gt;
How so? It works!&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the Book of Genesis.''&lt;br /&gt;
So, physicists should just give up looking for it? I dare to say that there are many Christian physicists - they may just not follow your special interpretation of Genesis!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:29, 27 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; and Walton ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd appreciate an answer by Aschlafly (and him alone) to the following questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''1.''' Do you accept that the mass of the Lithium-kernel (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li), of alpha-particles (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;He) and of protons (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;H) can be measured fairly accurately, as these are charged particles? &lt;br /&gt;
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'''2.''' Do you accept the measurements for the mass of the particles as used by Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; and Walton, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;
:::{|&lt;br /&gt;
!particle&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;H||1.0072 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;He||4.0011 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li||7.0130 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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If not, which values do you think to be right?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''3.''' Do you agree that before the reaction the mass of the particles involved was 8.0202 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''4.''' Do you agree that after the reaction the mass of the particles involved is 8.00220 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''5.''' Do you agree that there is a mass decrease of 0.0180 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''6.''' Before the experiment, the Li was at rest and the proton had a kinetic energy of less than 1MeV. Do you accept these  values?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''7.''' After the experiment, a pair of alpha-particles was observed, both having an kinetic energy of 8.6MeV. Do you think that this value is correct?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''8.''' Can you tell me where the mass went? Can you tell me where the energy came from?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''9.''' If your answer to question 8. is ''no'' in both accounts, than my answer is that there is a theory which explains the conversion of mass to energy, even if you don't like it! &lt;br /&gt;
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As this theory works for this experiment, and for all the other fissions and fusions, it isn't liberal claptrap, but a meaningful theory. And you can't blame physicists for using it! Of course, you can blame journalist to abuse the formula - but this isn't the result of ''liberal physics'', but of ''bad reporting'', as an abuse of the dictum ''1+1=2'' doesn't reflect badly on number-theorists, but only on the person misattributing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:04, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:AugustO, chemical reactions can release energy, typically based not on the size of their mass but on the electrostatic energy prior to the reaction.  Cockcroft's own paper accepting the Nobel Prize does not claim that his work proved that '''''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''.  Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula, or else we'd have seen far more claims of experimental verification of it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, you haven't answered any of the questions above! Instead you are talking about something completely different:&lt;br /&gt;
*We are not talking about a ''chemical'' reaction! You should know the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
*Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; claims that the energy comes from the loss of mass - and he calculates it according to ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;''. Please read (and understand!) his lecture.&lt;br /&gt;
*Please give a list of a few (or at least a single) experiment which contradicts the formula. This should be easy, as you stated that ''Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula''. Oh, wait, you made that up...&lt;br /&gt;
*Please answer the questions 1 to 9: all the question are covered in Cockcroft's&amp;amp;sup1; lecture, so I'd be interested in your explanation!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:32, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:AugustO, if you cannot even spell Cockcroft's name properly, how can Andy take anything you say seriously? --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 22:03, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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(1) : spelling of ''Cockcroft corrected [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:22, 25 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please move this article to [[Essay:E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;]]? Then I could ignore all the misleading and outright wrong statements in the first section! Thanks, [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Experimental Facts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, on the one hand side, you state that ''no experiment distinguishes between &amp;quot;gravitational&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;inertial&amp;quot; mass'' - and that seems good enough for you. On the other hand side, you have a problem with the statement that E=mc² ''continues to be affirmed experimentally''. Do you spot the inconsistency? Indeed, I could write: ''the equivalence between inertial mass and gravitational mass has never been mathematically derived from first principles in classical mechanics, indeed, a rigorous proof of this equivalence is probably beyond the purview of classical theory.''&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, omitting the first part of the sentence ''&amp;quot;Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally...&amp;quot;'' makes you look very disingenuous (even if you have good motives) to anyone who looks up the link to the abstract!&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:07, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance.  99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:38, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And the remaining percent are the physicists which draw such distinctions with good reason! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Even more confusing is that the article states mass is a measure of inertia. Inertia is resistance to acceleration, and that has nothing to do with gravity at all. The article as it stands is simply inaccurate. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:51, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Aschlafly: ''....may not even have any justification in the paper'' &lt;br /&gt;
::::Aschlafly, havn't you read the paper? Here is a part of the conclusion:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''Einstein produced about 18 virtuoso derivations and demonstrations all aimed at establishing the mass-energy principle. We have shown that although each of them gave evidence for the applicability of E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = mc&amp;amp;sup2; to a particular set of circumstances, no one derivation, or collection of them taken together, succeeded in providing a definitive proof of its complete generality. That should not be surprising because the same situation occurs, for example, with F = ma, which is a different kind of relation than E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = mc&amp;amp;sup2;. Even so, 300 years of successful theoretical work have not proven the correctness of F = ma. Indeed, relativity showed that this expression, one of the bedrocks of classical mechanics, holds only approximately.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Here is another excerpt, on mass, electromagnetism etc:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''In the 19th century, a number of European physicists, including the leading theoretician of the time, Hendrik Lorentz, were working to establish that mass was, in whole or in part, electromagnetic. There were primarily two competing theories, one by Lorentz, the other by Max Abraham. Both agreed that depending on the relative direction of its velocity and acceleration, an “electron” a generic charged particle moving through the aether could manifest both transverse and longitudinal speed-dependent mass components. There was even experimental evidence that seemed to confirm as much. Electromagnetic theory was then at the center of physics.''&lt;br /&gt;
::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:56, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::(May I add that I think one shouldn't make such fundamental statements as ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; has no meaning'', if one only skims a few abstracts! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, maybe you have not the time (or the access) to read the actual papers - as you should when drawing conclusions. But perhaps you can take a look at [http://www.lbl.gov/abc/Basic.html Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory's ABC of Nuclear Science] to refresh the basics?Even there, they use ''Einstein's famous equation...''... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:44, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ...purports to relate all matter to light ==&lt;br /&gt;
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When I write that for iron I get:&lt;br /&gt;
::V [cm&amp;amp;sup3;] * 7.874 g/cm&amp;amp;sup3; = M [g]&lt;br /&gt;
I don't relate the mass to  7.8474, but to the volume. So, similarly  Einstein's equations says that mass is proportional to energy, not light. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:38, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the constant applied in this case is the (square of the) speed of light! Are you saying that that is a coincidence? If so, why not just say &amp;quot;E=mc&amp;quot;?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:57, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::no, of course not, but we could write, e.g., E&amp;amp;epsilon;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = m/&amp;amp;mu;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;: the relationship is given between mass and energy... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:04, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But the relationship itself is somehow connected to light. Or maybe, the relationship is connected with some third factor that also determines the speed of light.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:58, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::yes, but the c² is a constant. Does the equation E/c²=m relate all energy to light? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:18, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yes - the equation in any form relates mass, energy, and the speed of light. I think the article doesn't emphasise the light-energy relationship because it's the mass-energy relationship that appears absurd once the theory of relativity is discounted.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:22, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if you discount the theory of relativity, the experimental facts remain: in experiments where mass is deleted or created, this happens with the release or absorption of energy. And this energy is given by &amp;amp;asymp;8.99*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;16&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;m&amp;amp;sup2;/s&amp;amp;sup2; times the mass... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:31, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Misleading footnote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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::(Your footnote about the units is bogus. SI units are not arbitrary, since eg Joules can be derived from other SI units including kilograms, metres and seconds. Therefore, the relationship to light ''is'' (purported to be) a natural one.)--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:00, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Which footnote about units? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:04, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, I see, no, not ''my'' footnote. The text was inserted by [[User:GregG/RSS_6#Mon.2C_26_Mar_2012_18:05:11_GMT_.28edit_by_MihailD.29_2|MihailD]], and obviously the equation holds in other systems, too. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:10, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I took out the main part of the footnote: it should be obvious that in a physical equation only compatible physical units can be used, and that otherwise conversion factors have to be introduced. But there is no problem, if we have c in feet/h, m in pounds, and E in pound*feet&amp;amp;sup2;/h&amp;amp;sup2; &lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:30, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I see - my apologies. I thought you had added the footnote in order to try and make the point above. I agree that in any sensible unit system the equation will work (assuming the theory is right of course).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:32, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like [[User:MihailD|MihailD]] received a lifetime block for this and related edits, so he'll be unable to explain or justify his comments. --[[User:JasperK|JasperK]] 08:58, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's a pity! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:38, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Generally I enjoy the great contribution of SamHB. My only rub: the ''royal we'' - ''we will dispel'', ''we will show'', ''we don't do''. I don't think that this is the best way to phrase an encyclopedic article, and I'd like to see alternatives. For the moments, I just commented out some of the occurrences which in my opinion spoiled the fun of reading the article....&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is a bit chatty. The first one could be rephrased &amp;quot;This article sets out to...&amp;quot;. I have reworded two of the others, and the rest might possibly be omitted entirely.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:44, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you guys destroyed a wonderful original piece of work by Mr. Schlafly. There are hundreds of books and web sites that explain relativity, why did you feel the need to reproduce that content here? --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 16:18, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps because they are right and he is wrong? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:39, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Aschlafly, you still haven't answered my [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|reasonable questions abouts this subject]]. To be ignorant on a subject isn't that big a deal, but to willfully stay ignorant while lecturing about it, that is! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:32, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, the ''wonderful original piece of work'' was not destroyed - you find it embedded in the text. A blanket reversion of the work of a couple of editors should be a no-no, please give reasons for reverting at least for each paragraph! And answer the [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|questions!]] [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:42, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection of the Article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Stated reason: ''(with reluctance, and repeated reversions; for now, post specific suggestions for edits on the talk page)''&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, this must be one of these definitions of irony, as I asked for specific reasons for your  deletions of material. Isn't that censorship? BTW, you still haven't replied to the [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|sections above]], and frankly I'm starting to call your knowledge on this matter in question! Ignorance is not always bliss! &lt;br /&gt;
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And if you are not willing to address the points made above by various contributors, are you at least willing to read and answer to ''specific suggestions for edits on the talk page''? Or is this a sham to force-feed your view to the readers?&lt;br /&gt;
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:The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis.  Simply put, the entry had denigrated into the ''antithesis'' of the truth-seeking integrity expected of ''Conservapedia''.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:41, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what about the current entry? The fact is that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is a perfectly valid equation demonstrating the equivalence of matter and energy and it has been thoroughly verified; the energy a piece of matter contains DOES equal its mass times ''c'' squared. This has been repeatedly demonstrated by experiments, which consistently show that the energy released by a reaction is equal within measuring limits to the overall mass lost. It's perfectly reasonable to reject any claim that this demonstrates the truth of moral relativism, atheism or anything else, but to criticise the equation itself as &amp;quot;meaningless&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;liberal claptrap&amp;quot; demonstrates no truth-seeking or integrity. E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is no more liberal than d=vt or 1+1=2. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 19:53, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The entry explains how nonsensical the formula is as a general principle -- and how it has never been derived as a matter of logic or demonstrated in any general, meaningful manner.  Reliance on [[hearsay]] is not a serious alternative.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:24, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But it ''isn't'' a general principle. It's a mathematical expression of matter-energy equivalence and it's perfectly valid. Whether or not it's ever been derived as a matter of logic or not is irrelevant because it's been repeatedly demonstrated to be true in the most meaningful manner possible: if you turn matter into energy the amount of energy that comes out is always equal to the lost mass times ''c'' squared. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 20:59, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You restate the claim as though its repetition would make it true.  It doesn't.  If someone gains one pound in weight, then it is preposterous for anyone to claim that his energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:07, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yes, it would be absolutely preposterous. In fact his energy would have increased by a number of foot-pounds equal to one pound times ''c''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; in feet per second. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:11, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::To explain that further, his energy would have increased in proportion to his '''weight''', not to the speed of light. If a person who weighed 150lb gained 1lb the energy contained in their mass would increase from 1.4467x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;17&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ft lb to 1.4564x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;17&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ft lb. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:39, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The formula '''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' does assert that his energy for a fixed gain in weight would increase in proportion to the speed of light squared and, as you say, that is preposterous.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::No, his energy for a fixed gain in weight will increase in proportion to his '''weight'''. In my example of a 150lb man gaining 1lb, his new energy content will be 0.6667% higher, '''as will his weight'''. ''c''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is just a constant. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 00:52, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Andy seems to imagine that this energy should be immediately available for sports or doing work around the house, and that we should all be superheroes after having eaten a bar of chocolate. This is, of course, not so. The energy is still locked up in the mass, and it would require nuclear or particle reactions to convert even small parts of it into useful forms of energy. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 03:28, 31 March 2012 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
''The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis''. Then let's get factual: just answer a [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|few questions]]. Shouldn't be difficult, as you are so insightful. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course this is hearsay - and so it should be. Conservapedia is an encyclopedia - a collection of established information cited from other sources. Hearsay may be inappropriate in court, but it is the lifeblood of an encyclopedia. Anything that is not 'hearsay' is personal opinion or original research, and should be reserved for articles prefixed 'Essay:'. --[[User:JasperK|JasperK]] 08:23, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then again, heresy tends to be more reputable when it comes from a professional who has studied the issue for years, instead of a man who doesn't understand how food works. [[User:JackFerner|JackFerner]] 12:23, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=E%3Dmc%C2%B2&amp;amp;diff=971455&amp;amp;oldid=971446 this edit] removed publication information about the references.  Personally, I think this information is useful for two reasons: it helps Conservapedia editors locate the references from other sources if (and when) the links go dead, and it helps who print out Conservapedia articles and wish to look up the references offline.  (Of course, I'm not suggesting that the URLs be removed, but this could be in addition to the publication information).  Of course, there may be perfectly good reasons for removing the publication information of which I am not aware, but I otherwise think that the publication information should be included again (and I plan to do this once the protection expires).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 23:17, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great point.  I retrieved and added many of the citations back.  If I missed any then I'd be happy to add them also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Niels Bohr ==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy, for how often you rail against the Nobel Prize I'm surprised that you would try and use a former winner as an authority to support your misguided assertion. [[User:DennisR|DennisR]] 21:48, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even a broken clock (like the Nobel Prize) gets it right every once in a while!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:07, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::''. As a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light, it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, including Niels Bohr. '' Who were these physicists? And what said Niels Bohr?  I couldn't find anything. In the famous ''Gedankenexperiment'' at Solvay, he accepted ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:14, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And of course it ''isn't'' a &amp;quot;general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light.&amp;quot; It's a statement of equivalence between energy and matter. Andy seems to be obsessed with the idea that light is involved somehow, and that conflicts with his rather odd idea that the Bible forbids a unified theory. I can only wonder what he'll do if science comes up with a unified theory. Probably deny that too. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:16, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, according to the information I found (Einstein and Bohr at the Solvay-conference), Niels Bohr accepted ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;''. So, a fact-tag was the only alternative to downright deleting the sentence: it allows you to bring up your sources! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:31, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd have been amazed if he hadn't. Bohr was on the British team for the Manhattan Project, and he wouldn't have been much use at nuclear weapon design if he didn't accept E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:41, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Aschlafly, you have a tendency to make up claims (''As a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light, it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, including Niels Bohr. '', ''Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula'', and, yes, '' &amp;quot;suddenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;at that time&amp;quot; is a nuance of the Greek ἰδού''). And when your bluff is called, you are miffed! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:00, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::''Protected &amp;quot;E=mc²&amp;quot;: insertion of a fact tag instead of finding and adding a reference.'' That is ridiculous: there is no way of ''finding and adding a reference'' for this made-up &amp;quot;''fact''&amp;quot;! &lt;br /&gt;
::It is, however, not very difficult to show that the ''fact'' was invented: just take a look into ''&amp;quot;Foundations of Quantum Physics I''&amp;quot;, a book written by Niels Bohr and Jorgen Kalckar. Here Bohr uses what he calls ''Einstein's relation'' without any trepidation! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:00, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Presumably, then, the relevant text should be changed to something like &amp;quot;it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, although Niels Bohr later accepted it.&amp;quot; and then add the citation. Or you could clarify with something like &amp;quot;the liberal Nobel Prizewinner Niels Bohr&amp;quot;.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:18, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*There is no reason to think that there was a time at which Niels Bohr didn't accept it! &lt;br /&gt;
::::*Is there any source which shows that it was ''widely rejected at the time''? Of course, there was the [[Deutsche Physik]], but does this count?&lt;br /&gt;
::::*That said: the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{fact}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; tag was absolutely appropriate. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You make some valid points as the online evidence is remarkably scant, even though the disagreement between Bohr and Einstein is well-known.  This may be a (rare) example where the internet is less adequate than books.  I did add an explanatory footnote and the protection to the page should be expiring soon, if not already.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Einstein disagreed with Bohr regarding quantum mechanics. Could you provide a source that Bohr disagreed with Einstein on the theory of relativity? I can't find one! &lt;br /&gt;
*As I said, the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{fact}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; tag was absolutely appropriate, and I'll reinsert it, as I don't think that there are any sources to back-up your claim.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light'': no one claims that the '''three''' are equivalent!&lt;br /&gt;
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I've changed the introduction to something a bit more encyclopaedic. Please don't revert without discussing it first. Thanks. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:28, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Political pressure has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of this nonsensical equation''&lt;br /&gt;
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More likely the fact that similar experiments as the one Cockcroft and Walton are performed by undergraduates in each department teaching physics around the world! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:30, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, that would not explain why it &amp;quot;is impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of&amp;quot; E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Even if you think the formula is somehow true, surely you do not deny the political pressure in academia against anyone who might consider questioning it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's entirely possible for someone who questions the validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; to pursue a career in science; scientists are encouraged to question the validity ''everything''. However if they ''deny'' the validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; then a scientific career is indeed off-limits to them, for the same reason as it's off-limits to someone who denies that 1+1=2. The fact is, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. It's been verified time and time again. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 18:44, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To talk about political pressure in this context is ridiculous. The conversion of Mass to Energy and vice versa and the validity of E=mc2 has been demonstrated experimentally  so often(an early example is given in the main page) that to deny that the equation describes observed nature flies in the face of observation and is thus unscientific. To question its validity without hard experimental evidence or a sound theoretical argument (neither of which has been demonstrated) would simply be a matter of scientific (in)competance.[[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 15:16, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Aschlafly, if you argue against ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;'' out of a position of (willful)  ignorance, you won't be taken seriously. Unfortunately this is what you are doing, as your (non-) answer  [[Talk:E=mc²#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockroft and Walton|above]] is showing.&lt;br /&gt;
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In general, if the map distance between two points is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;d&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; and the actual distance between the points is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;D&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, then the following formula is satisfied:&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; posits a direct relationship between mass and energy.  It does not relate mass to the speed of light (or light itself), nor does the equation related light to energy.  Rather, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is a conversion factor, just like the &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; was in our equation for computing actual distances from map distances.  I hope this helps explain why some editors have concern with your statement of the relationship posited by &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 00:19, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:But Energy and mass have known meanings in other contexts, unlike the distances (in inches) on the map page in your example.  If Energy or mass were being redefined by E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, then I think your analogy would work.  But people are not defending E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; by saying it entails a redefinition of Energy or mass.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:00, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The equation postulates how mass and energy can be interchanged while conserving the total amount of mass energy.  For example, according to the equation, a nuclear reaction that causes 1.0 kg of mass to be lost will produce 9.0 x 10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;16&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; J energy.  The amount of energy produced ''by the loss of mass'' is proportional to the mass lost.  It is the same sort of equivalence between the number of pounds you get at a currency exchange and the number of dollars you pay (which, come to think of it, is probably an even better analogy).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 01:13, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::(inserted reply here) E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; claims more than the relation between mass and energy is linear (which is itself implausible).  It also claims that the proportional factor is precisely equal to the speed of light squared.  Restating the meaning of the equation in plain terms demonstrates how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:41, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Energy and mass have known meanings in THIS context! The equation tells us how much energy will be liberated by losing a set amount of mass, or how much energy (for example hard gamma rays) is required to create a set amount of mass. It is a valid equation. It doesn't matter ''what'' objections anyone has to it based on principle or logic; it's been tested and it's correct. This is getting pretty frustrating. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 01:56, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we should have two articles [[E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; (science)]] and [[E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; (new age)]]: every sentence Aschlafly writes on this subjects shows that he knows so very little about the science involved - and has no interest to get informed any further. Instead his methods reminds me of homeopaths and other quacks advertising their craft by misrepresenting sources, cherry-picking evidence and generally repeating false statements over and over again despite of better knowledge. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:05, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Schlafly, you've said that this equation &amp;quot;purports&amp;quot; to describe the equivalence of matter and energy. The fact is, it's been repeatedly tested and it ''does'' describe the equivalence of matter and energy. However I get the feeling that there's some misunderstanding here. What, exactly, is your objection to E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;? Do you think it's incorrect - in which case go check the experimental data - or do you think it's being used to advance some sort of political agenda? I think we've reached a deadlock here and to make any progress on improving the article it would be helpful to know what you think is wrong with the equation. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:02, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The problem is that it is a self-sustaining myth presented as &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot; by the same self-serving scientific establishment who have built an tautological edifice on nothing.  It is designed to subtly indoctrinate children into the world of moral, social and scientific relativity by suggesting that &amp;quot;everything is relative&amp;quot;.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 17:03, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Andy, how do you explain the result of the Cockcroft- Walton experiment? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 01:42, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::A very good question! Aschlafly, you could try to answer it by responding to [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|this section above]]! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:01, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked into it and for me it is an ''ad-hoc'' fabrication to make a point - even the time-line doesn't work out: a '''''trustworthy''''' encyclopedia shouldn't work this way! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:58, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My dad's grandfather [[Charles Lane Poor]] also disagreed with this paper, although I think he eventually came around once enough evidence piled up for it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:36, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why ''also''? There is no evidence that Bohr disagreed with the paper (therefore the statement about Bohr is ''factually incorrect'', i.e., false) and  the fabrication was removed from the article. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:18, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bohr and Einstein, though friends, had a famous debate about the new theories. If it was not about the particular 1905 paper you have in mind, then what were the Bohr–Einstein debates about? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:22, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They had famous debates about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr%E2%80%93Einstein_debates quantum mechanics], which has nothing to do with the 1905 paper. I'm not aware of any debates about relativity. Can you provide a reference? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Indeed, it is well known that Bohr and Einstein discussed quantum-mechanics - here is Niels Bohr's own account of these discussions: ''[http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/dk/bohr.htm Discussions with Einstein on Epistemological Problems in Atomic Physics]''. Please keep in mind that Bohr was just 20 years old in 1905 - and only decided that year to drop philosophy and take up physics! If you can find any debate of Bohr and Einstein on purely relativistic matters, that will come as a surprise. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:41, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I still don't understand why (a) Andy Schlafly doesn't know the difference between gravitational mass and inertial mass and (b) he seems obsessed over the speed of light in the equation.  The m in the equation is inertial mass! As others have stated, when talking about gravitational mass, you need to consider general relativity.What E=mc^2 says is that mass is just a form of energy. It says nothing about the unification of electromagnetism and gravity (it doesn't even say anything about gravity!). Moreover, do you, Andy Schlafly, understand that electromagnetism is not the only theory that has c as a special value? All massless particles travel at the speed of light. In GR, gravity travels at the speed of light. &lt;br /&gt;
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:As to your second point, chemical reactions can cause energy to be released, and the remaining mass to be reduced.  This is hardly astounding and certainly does not imply that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your third point is often repeated by Relativists but overlooks that Maxwell's equations were developed and demonstrated decades before the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Maxwell's equations survived just fine for years without anyone claiming that somehow E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Indeed, an assertion that people &amp;quot;have to reject Maxwell's equations&amp;quot; based on relativity suggests a mathematical approach to physics, rather than an observational one.  Are you aware of how Eddington claimed that a physical constant &amp;quot;must&amp;quot; have a certain value due to some mathematical rationale?  (He was wrong, of course.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:06, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your first point: It's good that we all agree that inertial mass and gravitational mass are the same thing.  (This is the fundamental hypothesis of general relativity, by the way.)  But the term &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; always means &amp;quot;inertial mass&amp;quot;.  Gravity never appears anywhere in special relativity.  Even if Newton's constant of universal gravitation (&amp;quot;G&amp;quot;) were zero, that is, we lived in a hypothetical universe in which there is no gravity, special relativity, the Lorentz transform, and E=mc^2 would still be true.  There should be no mention of gravity anywhere in the article.  But the second sentence of the article refers to &amp;quot;mass (i.e., gravity)&amp;quot;.  Please take that out.  I would do it myself, but I'd get it wrong, since I don't know what point you were trying to make.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your second point: That chemical reactions that cause energy to be released result in a reduction of the final mass most certainly '''''is''''' astounding.  No one had ever seen this, or suspected it, before E=mc^2, and it is doubtful that anyone has seen it to this day, since the effect is so small for chemical reactions.  The phenomenon is known only because we know that E=mc^2 is true.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your third point: Yes, Maxwell's equations were developed decades before relativity, and survived just fine before anyone suspected that E=mc^2.  Your claimed &amp;quot;assertion that people 'have to reject Maxwell's equations' based on relativity&amp;quot; is not made by anyone.  It's the ''denial'' of relativity that would necessitate a denial of Maxwell's equations.  Maxwell's equations imply relativity, though Maxwell didn't realize it.  In fact, it was an analysis of Maxwell's equations, not the Michelson-Morley experiment, that led to relativity.  If we lived in a hypothetical universe in which there were no electric or magnetic forces, relativity would still be true.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The reason is that has nothing to do with E=mc^2.  Your point about Eddington was presumably referring to the alpha=1/137 business, right?  I am aware of that.  It was in the late 1930's.  Would you like me to write an article about it?  I'd be glad to do so.  Eddington's promotion of relativity in England was in the 1920's, after the eclipse (his book was in 1923), and was about ''general'' relativity.  E=mc^2 is in ''special'' relativity, and was widely accepted by then. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 17:59, 7 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Simply put, the [[Theory of Relativity]] is a mathematical theory (which, by the way, is taught in math departments in some universities); this mathematical theory has never been based on meaningful physical observations.  Any statement that someone must reject Maxwell's equations if he rejects the [[Theory of Relativity]] shows how the mathematical cart can be incorrectly placed before the physical horse.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:21, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course it's been based on meaningful physical observations. To be more precise, it's based on repeated experiments where the relation between the observed mass loss and the observed energy release is E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I really don't know what your problem is, but to challenge the validity of something as thoroughly confirmed as E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is not going to get you anywhere. The equation is valid. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 03:17, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::My comments were aimed at people who accept that both mathematical theory and experimental observations have a role to play, and that they complement each other.  There is no cart and no horse.  Relativity, like Newtonian mechanics, involves both elegant mathematics and observation, and the observations buttress the theory very well.  It's possible for people to get carried away with the mathematics, as Eddington did with the 137 business, but that hasn't happened with relativity.  And yes, if you don't accept relativity, you can't make Maxwell's equations work correctly, though Maxwell didn't realize that at the time.  It was only later that Lorentz, Poincare, and Einstein fixed that. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 17:59, 7 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''As to your second point, chemical reactions can cause energy to be released, and the remaining mass to be reduced. This is hardly astounding and certainly does not imply that E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;. '' &lt;br /&gt;
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*The mass of the products of a chemical reaction is nearly equal to the mass of the reagents, because the energy which is involved is so much less than that of a nuclear fusion or fission.&lt;br /&gt;
*A kilogram of [[TNT]] will release 4.484 MJ of energy, if you break this down for a single molecule, you see that less than 10 eV are released per molecule in the explosion. Compare this with the 17,200,000 eV per nucleus in the experiment of Corckcroft and Walton!&lt;br /&gt;
*In fact, if you let the products of the explosion cool down, the equivalent of this energy will be missing - but it is such a small amount that it is hard to detect it. But nevertheless,  E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; could be observed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cockcroft's experiments were not performed until 1932 [http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-speech.html], and recognition for his work did not occur from the Nobel Prize committee until 1951.  I could find nothing in the Prize, Cockcroft's acceptance speech, or anything else contemporaneous that suggests that Cockcroft proved that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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One comment above suggests that E=me&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; was accepted long before 1932.  Based on what, mere politics?  This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically even to this day, and the first (dubious) proof for it was not observed until 1932.  Folks, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; seems to be based on politics rather than physics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:02, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically&amp;quot;--It is more correct to say that the formula cannot be mathematically derived from first principles (in the way that Kepler's laws can be derived from Newton's law of universal gravitation) rather than that the formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically.  Indeed, experimental observation reveals that the added energy is proportional to the mass lost in a linear fashion, with &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; as the slope.  These are the same sorts of phyiscal observations that allow you to deduce laws like &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;F = ma&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; (apply varying amounts of force to a mass and see what the resulting acceleration is).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 18:38, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The formula cannot be derived ''in any sensible way'', not merely a rigorous way.  Numerous attempts to derive it have been failures.  Moreover, the first claimed experimental observation for the formual was not dates from 1932, long after the formula was declared to be unquestionable dogma.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:20, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Could you please give us some references to these failed attempts? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 19:22, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::This took only one search on the internet: [http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/01-einstein.s-23-biggest-mistakes 7 failed attempts to prove E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:27, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Aschlafly, your reading of Cockcroft lecture is insufficient. He writes: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units, '' so he thinks that energy can be provided by decreasing the mass of an object. And if you do a little math, you can see for yourself that he uses Einstein's formula to calculate the amount. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::As for the ''seven failed attempts'': Even if there were mathematical errors in the papers as your ''&amp;quot;source&amp;quot;'' suggests, it is not clear that they render the calculations invalid! &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I assume you've read the book and not just that chronology, Andy? Looks like an interesting read, even though the [http://einsteinsmistakes.com/the_author_5.html author] is a [[Professor values|professor]] in liberal [[Vermont]] and has written a [http://www.amazon.com/Special-Relativity-A-Modern-Introduction/dp/0971313415/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1333999210&amp;amp;sr=8-1 textbook] on special relativity. Incidentally, amazon.com gives access to a few pages of &amp;quot;Einstein's mistakes&amp;quot;. Let me quote from page 330: &amp;quot;His (Einstein's) first derivations of this equation, although flawed, convinced physicists that the energy-mass relation ought to be of general validity. In 1905, Einstein did not have available the mathematical tensor techniques needed for a correct derivation of this formula, but he instigated the theoretical investigations that later led von Laue and Klein to the correct derivation.&amp;quot; Could you explain in more detail why you think the attempts failed? Von Laue and Klein's attempts would be particularly interesting, because your reference claims they were correct. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 15:28, 9 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::A recent peer-reviewed scientific paper, which has been cited in this entry, also confirms that E=mc2 cannot be mathematically derived.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Aschlafly, have you read the paper? I doubt it, as your statement isn't entirely correct. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:06, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::You mean the paper by Hecht (2011)? That's also interesting. Let me quote from the Conclusions (I happen to have access to the paper): &amp;quot;Einstein produced about 18 virtuoso derivations and demonstrations all aimed at establishing the mass-energy principle. We have shown that although each of them gave evidence for the applicability of E=mc^2 to a particular set of circumstances, no one derivation, or collection of them taken together, succeeded in providing a definitive proof of its complete generality. That should not be surprising because the same situation occurs, for example, with F=ma, which is a different kind of relation than E0=mc2. Even so, 300 years of successful theoretical work have not proven the correctness of F=ma.&amp;quot; ... &amp;quot;That aside, countless experiments from Cockcroft and Walton63 to Rainville et al.64 have, with increasing accuracy, confirmed that E0=mc2 is one of the greatest insights of the 20th century.&amp;quot; But maybe that's not the paper you mean? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 17:18, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::That sounds like what the paper would have to say in order to be published, yes.  An academic journal will withdraw its acceptance of a paper if it conflicts with the [[Theory of Relativity]] in any way.  Anyone in academia who criticizes the Theory of Relativity in any way, no matter how minor, is risking the end of his professional career due to liberal orthodoxy.  [[Robert Dicke]], the greatest American physicist ever, was denied the [[Nobel Prize]] because he criticized the Theory of Relativity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:07, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::And that doesn't sound like someone who actually read the paper! Drawing your conclusions just from your interpretation of the abstract (and wishful thinking) doesn't make a compelling argument. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:01, 12 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::How does Asclafly explain electron-positron annihilation? How do you explain that quantum electrodynamics (which is a relativistic theory) is the most accurately tested theory in physics? What's the theoretical basis for the spin of the electron if you deny SR? And are you telling me that Maxwell's equations are invariant under the Galilean transformations? [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:13, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::The claim that something &amp;quot;is the most accurately tested theory in physics&amp;quot; is a canard often heard by defenders of the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Step back, look at the phrase objectively, and it's easy to see that such a claim is unscientific.  Indeed, such a claim sounds like something one would hear in politics.  Not only are there more than three dozen [[Counterexamples to Relativity|counterexamples disproving the Theory of Relativity]], but the claim on which it was based (the advance of the perihelion of Mercury) is now disproof of the theory.  But notice how few people are interested in reviewing more precise data, and instead cite imprecise data that are a half-century old or more.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:49, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, I think you are underestimating both the scientific savvy and the inquisitiveness of the contributors here.  First, as you well know, but presumably don't like, those &amp;quot;counterexamples&amp;quot; are all wrong, and probably everyone here, except you, knows it.  They have been refuted on the &amp;quot;rebuttal&amp;quot; page.  Second, and this is my more important point, your claim that &amp;quot;few people are interested in reviewing more precise data&amp;quot; is not correct.  I would be interested in reviewing such data, as would nearly everyone else here.  Please post the data.  Don't bother with the full observed precession of 5600 (or whatever) seconds relative to the old equinoctial frame, or 574 seconds with the new celestial frame.  However that is calculated, the precession, after accounting for all the usual factors like gravitational effects of other planets and solar oblateness, is supposed to be 42.98 seconds or so.  Please give a citation for the data showing that the GR figure is wrong.  This argument has gone on for too long.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 22:17, 19 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Aschlafly, have you any reason to believe that R. Dicke had any problem with the special theory of relativity?&lt;br /&gt;
*Your reverence for R. Dicke is understandable, but surprising in light of your statement about the equivalence principle: ''It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance. 99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.'' R. Dicke took quite an effort to perform experiments on this ''hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance''.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Robert Dicke's criticism of the general theory of relativity is well-known.  For that, he was disqualified from receiving the Nobel Prize, despite being the most accomplished American physicist ever.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:41, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Robert Dicke's  criticism of the '''general''' theory of relativity may be well known, but we are here firmly in the realm of the '''special''' theory of relativity. And he didn't have problems with that one - so why have you? Are you a more able physicist than Robert Dicke? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:21, 19 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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William Bertozzi [http://muj.optol.cz/richterek/data/media/ref_str/bertozzi1964.pdf performed some experiments] in 1964 to exemplify the effects of the theory of special relativity.  W. Bertozzi undertook the effort to measure the values involved as directly as possible. He writes:&lt;br /&gt;
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So, these experiments seem to be performed with Aschlafly in mind! Perhaps Aschlafly can explain the data in a non-relativistic way (via quantum dynamics, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics or even nuance of ἰδού?) &lt;br /&gt;
But there are even [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977 experiments for undergraduates] which show relativistic effects: &lt;br /&gt;
:''We have developed an undergraduate laboratory experiment to make independent measurements of the momentum and kinetic energy of relativistic electrons from a \beta -source. The momentum measurements are made with a magnetic spectrometer and a silicon surface-barrier detector is used to measure the kinetic energy. A plot of the kinetic energy as a function of momentum compared to the classical and relativistic predictions clearly shows the relativistic nature of the electrons. Accurate values for the rest mass of the electron and the speed of light are also extracted from the data. '' &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Robert E. Marvel, Michael F. Vineyard&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then why hasn't William Bertozzi won a [[Nobel Prize]] for this work?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:11, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why should he? It is a relatively simple demonstration of a basic principle. Do you intend to ignore everyone who didn't get a Nobel prize? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 23:58, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::If this were a &amp;quot;simple demonstration of a basic principle,&amp;quot; then that would be all the more reason why it should be recognized with a [[Nobel Prize]], given the lack of a prize for the same principle.  Indeed, has any [[Nobel Prize]] been awarded for a purported confirmation of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;?  (Cockcroft's work did not claim to confirm the equation.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:40, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I find it fascinating how you on the one hand use the Nobel Prize as a source of authority when it hasn't been awarded for things you don't believe in and on the other hand berate the Nobel Prize as nothing more than liberal claptrap when it hasn't been awarded for things you do believe in. [[User:DVMRoberts|DVMRoberts]] 14:52, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::It's completely logical.  Some liberal claptrap is even too much for the [[Nobel Prize]] committee, and that's worth pointing out.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:58, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, could you please answer the questions in the questions in the section above: [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton ]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm interested in your interpretation of their results. (But please take into consideration that a chemical reaction releases perhaps the 1,000,000th part of the energy per unit of mass as the reaction observed by Cockcroft and Walton.)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, do you know what E=mc^2 means? You say that &amp;quot;E=mc² is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement that purports to relate all matter to light.&amp;quot; No. What it says is that matter is just another form of energy. That's it! It says nothing about unification of electromagnetism and gravity. Moreover, the m in the equation is inertial mass, not gravitational mass! If you look at any decent book on SR, it is the inertial mass that appears in the equations of relativistic energy-momentum. [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 09:42, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many questions in the sections above are still unanswered and I'm especially waiting for Aschlafly to answer those in the section ''[[Talk:E%3Dmc%C2%B2#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]''. &lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, could you at least provide me with your interpretation of the bolded sentence of Cockcroft's lecture: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. '''This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units'''''? Feel free to show your calculations!&lt;br /&gt;
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...(including Lord Rutherford and Princeton Physics Professor [[Robert Dicke]]) rejected the [[Theory of Relativity]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is about a result of the ''special theory of relativity''. &lt;br /&gt;
*Robert Dicke had no problems with the ''special theory'', he proposed an alternative to the ''general theory''. Or do you have a source where he attacked the ''special theory''?&lt;br /&gt;
*Ernest Rutherford thought that it was not beautiful, but he didn't reject the theory. Or do you have a source where he attacked theory for any other reason than being not beautiful?&lt;br /&gt;
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Without any source, the statement in the article is meaningless - it's more a reflection of the opinion of the main author of the piece and is as convincing as a sentence like ''Sir Isaac Newton wouldn't have liked the theory neither.''&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, the truth is that more than 99% of all today's physics think that this formula is a marvel to behold. That this formula is ''liberal claptrap'' is only your personal opinion, Aschlafly. You haven't given any contemporary source to back this up. Are we expected to take your personal insights for the truth? I'm willing to do so only if you are able to present these insights in a comprehensible way, simply making a statement - and then repeating it over and over again - is not enough. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:59, 25 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed, let's not dilute the truth.  E=MC2 is experimentally proven every time you look at the sun or any stars, it's proven every time an atom splits in a reactor to generate heat that in turn makes steam to spin a turbine and make electricity.  I'm guessing the Sun being the center of the solar system is also &amp;quot;liberal claptrap&amp;quot; too.  The part that I think is so funny is that everyone here is debating the topic so much when there probably isn't a single person on earth that would turn to Conservapedia for an explanation of anything even remotely scientific. [[User:Ntyson|Ntyson]] 17:45, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Schlafly, I'm trying to understand your assertion that the &amp;quot;energy&amp;quot; of an object is a function of &amp;quot;electrostatics.&amp;quot; I wonder if you can explain a little more about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, how is energy derived from electrostatic charge? Can you show the equation for doing this?&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you basing this on the common practice of expressing energy in electron-volts?&lt;br /&gt;
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Do neutral particles such as neutrons or uncharged atoms have energy, even though they have no charge?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Mass applies, at most, a very weak force, and it has no connection with the speed of light squared.  It's almost comical to claim that any meaningful statement of energy is found by multiplying mass times the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:28, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Unfortunately this doesn't really answer any of my questions. Yes, an electric field can apply a force. But the &amp;quot;strength&amp;quot; of an electric field is actually the same as a gravitational field: both decrease inversely as the square of the radius. The difference is that the strength of an electric field increases much more rapidly in proportion to charge than gravity does in proportion to mass.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, electric fields exert a force only on charged particles, which why I asked how we can calculate the energy of uncharged particles such as neutrons. Do they even have energy in the sense that you mean it?&lt;br /&gt;
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::And finally, I would still like to see the equations used to calculate the energy of a particle based on electrostatic charge. How much energy does an electron have? Is it the same as the energy of a proton (the charge is equal but opposite, but the mass is greater)?[[User:Pscott|Pscott]] 15:05, 16 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Why is it preposterous to claim that if one gains a pound in weight then their energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared, but not preposterous to claim that if one gains a pound in weight then their '''''kinetic''''' energy has thereby increased in proportion to their speed squared? [[User:Occultations|Occultations]] 16:53, 21 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Schlafly, could you please explain this statement?  It appears that this is a misunderstanding of the relationship of the mass-energy equivalence embodied by the equation &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  If a math student were to lambast the formula for the surface area of a sphere (&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;A = 4\pi r^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;) as relating roundness to the number 4 or spheres to squares, they would rightly be criticized for this obvious misunderstanding of a mathematical formula.  I think your misunderstanding of what &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; means is similar.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 19:00, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The surface area of a sphere is related to its radius, and to &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\pi&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  But the claim that mass and the speed of light have any relation at all to each other, through energy or anything else, is absurd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is your concern that the constant &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; happens to be the speed of light? Or do you dispute the concept of relativistic mass, where &lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;m_{\mathrm{rel}} = \frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}\,\, ? &amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; Are you saying that the speed of light does not belong in either equation, and that the &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; should be something else?  There are a number of equations in Einstein's Special Theory besides E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; and they hold together as far as they go.  Everyone agrees that a general theory of relativity has not been developed, but the ideas of mass energy equivalence and relativistic mass fit the data. The designers of nuclear reactors and satellite systems use these equations with success. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:47, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's a liberal fiction that E=mc2 has ever been applied in any practical way.  The equation defines rest mass in terms of the speed of light - an absurdity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::With all due respect, relativity was factored into the design of the GPS satellite system.  If you want to calculate the energy release of an atomic bomb, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is very useful.  We don't know with great precision the speed of light, and we don't know with great precision the value of &amp;quot;c&amp;quot;.  But God gave us brains and curiosity, so we will learn more precise values for both.  So far, they match.  If someday in the future, someone calculates &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; and measures the speed of light to more decimal places and discovers that they are different, I will have an open mind as to why.  The constant &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; carries through consistently in Einstein's calculations for the Special Theory.  The coincidence that &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; happens to equal the speed of light is one of the beautiful things about God's universe.  Although I do not spend my life's work on theoretical physics, I am pleased that God has inspired some very smart people to devote their lives to thinking about relativity, and I wish them success and happiness. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 11:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We've discussed the claim about relativity and GPS over and over on this site, and as a matter of historical fact (not to mention obvious engineering efficiency), theoretical relativity was not part of its design.  It is far easier and more accurate simply to synchronize directly based on observation, as may be needed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::If relativity isn't factored into the GPS design, why does the &amp;quot;[http://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/1995-SPS-signal-specification.pdf GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM STANDARD POSITIONING SERVICE SIGNAL SPECIFICATION]&amp;quot; (and you can't get more official than ''that'') state that they have to compensate for relativistic effects? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:30, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, why don't you answer August's question? What happens to that lost mass? And how do you explain E=mc &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; accounting for it exactly? The truth is that you live in a dream world. Your &amp;quot;insights&amp;quot; may sound like a nice way to view the world but when faced with a REAL counterexample and asked to back up your assertions you always just hide your head in the sand and fail to respond. Or use your classic 2+2=4 argument. Lol.--[[User:DamonRoss|DamonRoss]] 12:23, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The equation does not define rest mass in terms of the speed of light.  The equation defines relativistic mass in terms of the speed of light. If the equation were to define rest mass in terms of the speed of light it would have rest mass on the opposite side of the equation to the speed of light. Is your objection down to a fundamental flaw in your understanding of how equations work? [[User:VictorA|VictorA]] 08:03, 14 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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In March 2012 I asked this question:&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm still waiting for an answer! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:55, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified.  There has been no Nobel Prize awarded for it, for example, and there is no logical basis for even deriving the equation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But a broken clock is correct twice a day.  Would someone claim that proves the clock is working??--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Do you say that the size of the diminution of mass  just ''&amp;quot;happens&amp;quot;'' to coincide with the observed energy calculated via E=mc²?&lt;br /&gt;
::But how can there be a loss of mass? If you don't think that the energy-mass-equivalence is valid, what's about conservation of mass?&lt;br /&gt;
::Your &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot; is as good as a link to a video of fluffy kittens - or some proverb written in Chinese. In short, it is no answer at all, as '''you don't explain the diminution of mass.'''&lt;br /&gt;
::''&amp;quot;It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified. &amp;quot;'' That's just not true, I'm afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:55, 13 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I know a number of physicists who are good conservatives and good Christians.  They take their children to Sunday school. They don't like seeing government wasting money. And they believe in Einstein's theory of special relativity.  At one time, the Roman Catholic Church taught that the Earth was the center of the solar system rather than the Sun.  I personally believe that the Church's view on that subject did not have a reliable source in the Bible.  I understand how the Book of Genesis has been viewed as being in tension with Darwin's theory of evolution, but I don't see special relativity having the same tension with the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The question is whether the contradiction between the Bible and the equation E=mc2 is so direct and widely acknowledged that CP's users should receive an article that disparages the equation?  Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:32, 14 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=E%3Dmc%C2%B2&amp;amp;action=historysubmit&amp;amp;diff=1018287&amp;amp;oldid=1018232 This edit] is a bit vexing and does not reflect the consensus reached on the talk page.  I understand the criticism directed toward the General Theory of Relativity, but for the reasons stated further down the article, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; does fit the experimental data.  Based on everything that I have read, it is consistent with the Bible.  I do not want to get into the middle of a pre-existing emotional dispute, but I thought that I had come up with language that fit both sides.  CP is short on editorial manpower, and all of our time is very valuable.  I am disappointed on how this was handled.  Many thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:46, 15 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Perhaps we could separate the experimental results from the general validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I was thinking of something like:&lt;br /&gt;
:''Some experimental results appear to show that when a small amount of mass is lost in a nuclear reaction there is an accompanying release of energy (approx x eV per amu of mass lost).''&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry I can't calculate x, but it can be just a number without any c, light speed etc&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:''The conversion factor (x) is indeed close to the square of the speed of light if appropriate units are used. However:''&lt;br /&gt;
*:''The experiement has been done with only a limited number of nuclear reactions and in specific environments. This does not prove that this will occur for every  nuclear reaction in every environment, and cannot possibly prove that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is always true''&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm assuming here that we accept the experiemental results as far as they go. If not, even better - we can link to some evidence that they are flawed&lt;br /&gt;
*:''The experimental results do not prove that the conversion factor (x) is '''exactly''' the square of the speed of light. More accurate measurements may show that it is different''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*:''No one has a convincing explanation of '''why''' E might possibly equal mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. The most likely explanation is that the Creator designed it this way for some reason that we don't understand.''&lt;br /&gt;
:Would something like that help clarify the true position?&lt;br /&gt;
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::No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.  There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.  It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:52, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*''No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.'' That's just a ''non sequitur''&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.'' Why should there by? It works!&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.'' No, it's not - that's just wishful thinking of you part. Even undergraduates can perform experiments which show relativistic effects - see [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory] &lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's certainly a strange-looking formula. When refuting it should I be saying that mass is not actually being converted to energy in these reactions (i.e. the experiments are flawed and either mass is not being lost or the energy comes from somewhere else or something)? Or is it that mass is indeed being converted to energy but E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is not a correct/meaningful/useful way to describe it? [[User:Peterw|Peterw]] 12:20, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it gets demonstrated in practice about 3x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;10&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; times for every watt-second of power generated by a nuclear power plant.  Aside from observation, the theoretical question of ''why'' it should be true (and why the proportionality constant must be c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;) was logically deduced, by Poincare, Einstein, and perhaps others (Roger Schlafly would be an expert on this point), before it was ever observed.  The last paragraph of Einstein's 1905 paper, after deducing it theoretically, speculated that it might actually be observed in Radium decay.  It was, and the rest is history.&lt;br /&gt;
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Clear expositions of why it must be true on theoretical grounds are not always easy to come by.  I like to think that the page I wrote on another wiki gives a clear and concise proof.  Anyone interested in my making it available here?  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 23:06, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that Albert Einstein won the 1921 Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, and that no prizes were awarded during World War II. But didn't E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; show up a lot in the work of [[Hans Bethe]] on nuclear reactions and energy production in stars (1967 prize).  Hans Bethe lead the theoretical team at Los Alamos which designed the bombs dropped on Japan and certainly used the relationship on a day to day basis.  So, I don't believe it is correct to say that &amp;quot;No Nobel Prize has been given for this implausible formula.&amp;quot; I think that so many Nobel Prize winning discoveries in high energy physics depend on E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; or further confirm the relationship that it would be hard to argue that the Nobel committee has been boycotting E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; as pseudoscience. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 05:46, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:@SamHB: Having performed such an experiment for yourself is much more impressive than just thinking about actions in nuclear power plants or stars far away. Such an experiment [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|inoculate]]s you against arguments which are b|ased on wishful thinking alone.&lt;br /&gt;
:@Wschact: the formula E=mc² is virtually omnipresent: I've shown [[#Aschlafly, could you give us... |above]] that Cockcroft used the formula in his Nobel-lecture. Aschlafly tends to ignore such information.&lt;br /&gt;
:@Aschlafly: What do you think of the experiment for undergraduates ([http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory])? Have thousands of students falsified their results to fit the current &amp;quot;dogma&amp;quot;? Do you have another theory which makes predictions that are different from those of Einstein's theory, but which is consistent with this experiment? And could you give the answers to [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? The energy involved is to much for a chemical reaction...&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:34, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Broken clocks are precisely correct twice a day too.  One or two bizarre experiments in more than a century of trying to prove the formula as a general proposition are hardly persuasive.  The [[Nobel Prize]] committee wants to recognize the formula has being demonstrated, but can't.  There is no logical support for the formula, as peer reviewed articles have virtually admitted.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:11, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The experiment for the undergraduates is hardly bizarre - what results would you expect? If you don't get the results as described, this means that '''your clock''' is broken, while the clock which most of us use  is correct uncountable times a day. And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? This is another non-bizarre and often repeated experiment... --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:25, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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August, please explain below any high school experiment that you think proves the formula.  You might your view why a [[Nobel Prize]] was not given for it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:36, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Aschlafly, you are a [[Andrew Schlafly|former engineer]], therefore you should have  the competence to review an experiment for undergraduates!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Not everything which is true can be shown at a high-school. You may say that in this case, the theory is beyond the scope of this project, but that is not the case: certainly the readers of this encyclopedia should be informed about such things, even if they can't do the maths themselves - or perform the experiments.  This demands of the editors of articles like this one that they are willing to get the knowledge of the subject! Indeed they should get more information than is put into the article at the end. A good teacher should know a little bit more than the curriculum of his pupils...&lt;br /&gt;
:*And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? I always try to answer your questions - and the questions in the section above aren't that demanding...&lt;br /&gt;
:--[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:52, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's the relevance of the Nobel Prize? Was a Nobel Prize ever given for Intelligent Design, Flood Geology, Baraminolgy, anti-vaccine experiments, the link between breast cancer and abortion or creation science? [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 15:00, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;==This article is complete garbage==&lt;br /&gt;
E=mc^2 is only a simplified version created to be understood easier. If people had put dedicated effort for any amount of time, they could find the truth behind it. And &amp;quot;the bible says it's false&amp;quot; does not work, especially since the rest of the world completely agrees with the theory of relativity.&lt;br /&gt;
http://news.discovery.com/space/the-famous-emc2-is-incomplete-gotta-see-video-121030.html&lt;br /&gt;
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:Beware of claims that the rest of the world completely agrees with something.  Unanimously passed legislation is often the very worst kind.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:21, 16 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::But wouldn't unanimously passed legislation be a good example of the [[Best of the Public]]?   [[User:Wonders|Wonders]] 23:31, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==I'm Finding This a Little Hard to Understand==&lt;br /&gt;
First off, E = mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; describing a relationship between energy and matter is only one corollary. It is also part of a well known problem in chemistry... Or is isotopic mass not less than the sum of it's parts? The equation itself HAS been derived from the Theory of Relativity, and is a direct consequence of the energy momentum four vector for an object with 0-momentum. The quote you provide from the paper states that the theory is not enough for a rigorous PROOF, but it never tries to deny the derivability of the equation. Derivation and proof are two entirely different things.&lt;br /&gt;
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==This Article Could Use Sources or Better Explanation==&lt;br /&gt;
Wow. Classic Andy. Unsourced statements supposedly contradicting well-established theories of physics. No real proof other than &amp;amp;quot;the Bible says it's not true,&amp;amp;quot; even though this is an extremely uncommon interpretation Genesis. --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 01:06, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's a start for now, and will expand over time.  That's how wikis work.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:18, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Doesn't it relate energy to mass? The speed of light is just a constant here. [[User:IanR|IanR]] 02:22, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, please try to refute the explanation of the experiments of John Cockroft and Ernest Walton, which is accepted generally under physicists. And try to give some sources - or if not, some of your own calculations!&lt;br /&gt;
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If not, just erase the first section.&lt;br /&gt;
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I took out the link to the Nobel lecture, it can be found in the short summary. But be aware that John Cockroft is using the dreaded formula with ease (but without stating so explicitly - why should he, it's already generally accepted!) An astute reader, who not only searches for the formula finds e.g., the formulation:&lt;br /&gt;
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Indeed, these are the &amp;amp;asymp; 17MeV!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Irrelevant claims==&lt;br /&gt;
Are these claims of so called &amp;amp;quot;experimental verification&amp;amp;quot; valid or useful?  If you look at enough so-called science you can find people claiming anything. --[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 12:59, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:''you can find people claiming anything'' Indeed - and that's why there is a difference between the unsubstantiated claims in the first section, and the actual experiments in the following paragraphs. If you have a good explanation of the outcome of these experiments (some math would be nice), feel free to add your personal ''claim''.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:03, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Why do you feel that I need to do that? I understand that you may wish to believe relativity is true, but that is no reason to impose your personal beliefs on others.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 13:40, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thinking that all claims have the same validity seems not a very conservative position. I don't expect you to accept my personal beliefs, but there is a tendency in physics that the claims which are backed up by those willing to do the experiments and the maths have a greater following than random insights. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:47, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I don't understand why your personal beliefs are even included in the article.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 13:58, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*Because they are bolstered by experiments...&lt;br /&gt;
:::::*...and they aren't just my beliefs - in fact it will be very hard to find a physicist who doesn't share them. And that's something which shouldn't be easy to ignore in an article on a physical subject.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:02, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If science is your religion then you will find scientists who share your views.  I still don't see why they should be hosted here.  The introduction makes the Biblical position clear.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 14:07, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Religion is my religion, science is my hobby. And just because there is one single interpretation of a few verses of Genesis out there which you think to contradict the experiments of the physicists doesn't shatter my religious beliefs nor my trust in physics. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:35, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Then why do you insist with this anti-religious pseudoscience?--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 14:41, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;amp;larr; Now you have intrigued me: what's your definition of pseudoscience? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:45, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Pssst! DavidEdwards! You're trying waaaaay too hard. --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 21:20, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Too hard about what?&lt;br /&gt;
:As far as the pseudoscience question is concerned - &amp;quot;science&amp;quot; which is used to promote a worldview which has no basis in moral reality is pseudoscience.  Science which is designed to suggest that morality is relative clearly falls into this category.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 18:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question==&lt;br /&gt;
This snipet of sentence appears in the introduction: &amp;amp;quot;...''a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.''&amp;amp;quot; Let's compare that to the entire sentence it was lifted from: &amp;amp;quot;'''''Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally,''' a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.''&amp;amp;quot; One can't help but notice that the part of the sentence that states that the theory has been observed to be valid in real world experimentation, has been surgically removed. Why is this? Is it because it stands in contradiction to the claim the lead author of this article is trying to promulgate? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 20:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Peer-reviewed journals won't publish a criticism of relativity.  That's obvious.  Although I don't have a copy of the full paper, I doubt it attempts to fully support the [[hearsay]] that was excluded, and I would not be surprised if it was included simply to safeguard against complaints for what followed.  It adds nothing to the basic point that follows and is quoted here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:19, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why won't a peer-reviewed journal publish a criticism of SR or GR? Liberal conspiracy? Also, do you not accept that mass and energy are interchangeable or is it a problem with this specific equation? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 21:24, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::JoshuaB, do you accept the possibility that the [[Theory of Relativity]] may be false, and would you approve a well-written paper that criticized it?  It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:55, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yes. We already know the Theory of Relativity is an incomplete model of our universe. So yes, the theory may be &amp;amp;quot;false&amp;amp;quot;, but the one that takes it's place will most likely have many of the same properties. Secondly, would I approve of a  &amp;amp;quot;well-written paper that criticized it&amp;amp;quot;? I don't know what that means. I'm not a physicist, so I don't see what difference my &amp;amp;quot;approval&amp;amp;quot; of said paper would make. Now that I've been so kind as to answer your questions, would you return the courtesy and answer the ones I posted above? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 22:35, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The qualifications on your answer render it almost meaningless.  I'm not asking whether your approval of a paper would make a difference, or your opinion about whether you think the replacement of the [[Theory of Relativity]] will &amp;amp;quot;most likely&amp;amp;quot; be another theory of relativity.  The question was simple and straightforward, referring to a paper critical of the theory of relativity without any appeasement to those who insist on believing in it.  An unqualified answer is requested.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Also, did you ever answer my simple question on [[Talk:Main Page]] about how much time you've spent reading the [[Bible]] this month?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:50, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Come off it Schlafly. This article is not about my Bible reading, is it? No. Does my opinion of the publishing criteria of physics academia have any bearing on the assertions you are trying make? No. Again: Do you not accept that mass and energy are interchangeable or is it a problem with this specific equation? --[[User:JoshuaB|JoshuaB]] 23:11, 25 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Andy, do you accept the possibility that the Theory of Relativity may be correct, and would you approve a well-written paper or book that supported it? It's a simple &amp;amp;quot;yes&amp;amp;quot; or &amp;amp;quot;no&amp;amp;quot; question. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 03:28, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Some points ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Misplaced claims of experimental verification'': if you want to put on the disclaimer ''misplaced'', please explain the results of the experiments in another way.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Why won't a peer-reviewed journal publish a criticism of SR or GR?'' But they do: remember the neutrino thing? Or the papers of H. Ives? In fact the first event has shown that especially the publication of experiments (seemingly) violating currently accepted theories gets attention!&lt;br /&gt;
*Taking only the second half of ''&amp;amp;quot;Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally, a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory.&amp;amp;quot;'' makes you looking deceptive. Take the whole sentence and try to explain the motivation of the first half. Otherwise anyone who looks the quote up will suspect an ulterior motive!&lt;br /&gt;
*The whole first section is a train wreck.&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Mass]] is a measure of an object's inertia, and is directly related to the forces of [[gravity]].'' Only when you accept the general theory of relativity it is, otherwise inertial mass and gravitational mass are quite different animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have attempted to clarify the last point on the [[Mass]] page, and also removed the fact template from the first paragraph, since the explanation is given later on. As it stood, the &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; banners following important points tended to undercut the authority of the article.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:29, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The problem is not a confusion of weight and mass, but the conflation of gravitational and inertial mass. In the classical theory, there is no reason why both should be the same, it's just an experimental fact.&lt;br /&gt;
::So, I'm sorry, your new entry didn't help.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::But they always are the same, aren't they? I don't see why knowing or not knowing the reason (yet) has any bearing on the question.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 08:43, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Aschlafly writes: ''Mass is a measure of an object's inertia, and is directly related to the forces of gravity. In contrast, the intrinsic energy of an object (such as an atom) is a function of electrostatic charge and other non-inertial forces, having nothing to do with gravity.''&lt;br /&gt;
::::E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; isn't about gravity, to invoke it here is a deflection. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:49, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: OK. But bear in mind that this page clearly exists to provide a counterweight to certain liberal views. To do that, clarity of message is needed, and a &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; banner has a deflating effect on the strength of that clarity. So perhaps you could suggest a wording that might be acceptable without the &amp;amp;quot;citation needed&amp;amp;quot; bit?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:03, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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No, I can't. Frankly, I don't see the clarity in this piece: at the moment, it is still sadly missing. So I hope, that Aschlafly taking care of the fact-tags (other then trimming them away) will add to this clarity! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:13, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of how meaningless E=mc² is: descriptions for the layman  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Try to explain a complicated formula in 1-2min, then have a single sentence of this soundbit taken out. You can bet that this may sound meaningless. That's no fault of the formula. I'll change the title back. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:58, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The quotes (and others that could be added) illustrate how meaningless the formula is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:02, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The quotes illustrate how difficult it is to explain the concept to a layman. Take a look [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/expe-text.html here], where you can find the quotes in context. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:16, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The quotes were solicited to describe the meaning of the equation to laymen, not to illustrate how difficult that is.  The difficulty arises from the meaningless nature of the equation.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Actually the meaning of the equation is very clear: the total energy contained in matter is its mass multiplied by the speed of light in a vaccum squared. Experiment after experiment, and nuclear reactor after nuclear reactor, has clearly demonstrated that the total energy released by a reaction is the lost mass multiplied by c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. Therefore whether the theories of relativity are true or not, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is true. Equally, even if classical Newtonian mechanics was false, the kinetic energy of a moving mass would still be accurately described by E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;k&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;=1/2mv&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:34, 28 March 2012 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
::::Indeed. Internet quotes are really not very useful. A skilled researcher can always find someone saying something to justify their position however bizarre or immoral.  This is a typical weakness (and response!) of those who have no real moral or religious basis for their convictions. --[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 19:04, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::These quotes are absolutely meaningless. It looks like you took random sentences from the PBS article and then inserted them into the article as if they had any real significance. This is made even more moot when you consider the fact that the article claims that &amp;quot;Ten top physicists were asked to describe in laymen's terms E=mc²&amp;quot; and then you go on to quote three. Not to mention, most of the quotes aren't actually explaining what the equation means - a basic understanding of algebra and what the symbols mean is sufficient to understand its basic meaning - but rather what it entails, its implications. Tim Halpin-Healy's quote I think is better than taking some random sentences and then implying that they mean that physicists don't know what E=mc² means. --[[User:Tyg13|Tyg13]] 15:58, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The problem is that '''E=m&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;does not meaning anythimg that makes sense.  Anyone is welcome to try to explain it here.  Eating a pound of cake does not cause one's energy to increase by the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:06, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No, it doesn't. It causes your energy to increase by a number of foot-pounds equal to '''one pound''' times the speed of light squared. I've explained this to you already and it isn't difficult. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:23, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::The equation is essentially just a conversion ratio, its not difficult to understand that units of energy (Whether it is Joules, pound-foot, or erg) look essentially like a velocity squared times a mass (in SI units - kg m^2/s^2) this is not relativity or theory dependent, its the definition of Energy. The Special Relativistic analysis that results in the basic equation just determines that the conversion ratio is precisely that universal constant '''c''' in whatever units are convenient. There is no blindingly obvious or intuitive reason why this SHOULD be the case (conceivably the conversion ratio could have any number of complicated dimensionless constants in front), but basic mathematical logic allows us to derive this simple relationship from the postulates of Special Relativity. That being said, its a rather useless equation on everyday scales. In reality,  after consuming a pound of cake your body begins to break down the chemical bonds in the sugars/fats/proteins to extract usable energy, about 1500 food calories worth of it. If you had a precise enough scale and could somehow keep a human in a hermetically sealed bag that prevents the escape of any moisture/gas etc. you would be able to measure that after consuming and digesting the cake your bodyweight would not be +1 lb, but about 70 pg (picograms - 10^-12 grams) less, so if you weighed 150.0lb and ate a pound of cake (total of 151lb), after digestion you would actually weigh 70pg less than 151lb. It is important to note that this &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; isn't &amp;quot;lost&amp;quot; it is merely the &amp;quot;weight&amp;quot; of the energy stored in the chemical bonds, in other words in a pound of cake there is (1lb - 70pg) of stuff and 70pg worth of &amp;quot;chemical energy&amp;quot; with a conversion ratio of c^2. If you had some magic machine that could convert mass to energy at 100% efficiency the detonation of a body sized bomb would release 20 times more energy than the largest nuclear weapon detonated by man kind, however due to the nature of nuclear transitions/processes such a 100% conversion rate is not possibe . On the scale of nuclear bonds (order of MeV) this difference becomes conceivably measurable, but even so, in the detonation of a hiroshima sized nuclear weapon, the loss of mass due to the nuclear fission is approximately 500mg, the rest of the nuclear material is dispersed as fallout, considering that there was ~60kg of nuclear material in the weapon, this corresponds to an energy &amp;quot;efficiency&amp;quot; ~1%, which is typical of fission devices. In a 100MT nuclear bomb this is conceivably larger at nearly 5kg, and the fusion type weapon that can achieve this high yields has considerably higher mass-energy conversion efficiency at around ~20% [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 16:53, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: Another way of thinking about is this. Consider your typical AA batery, it is not a difficult stretch of the mind to understand that this battery stores electrical energy, approximately 2Ampere-hours at 1.5v which is approximately 5000J worth of STORED electical energy. Now, CONSUMING this battery does not cause your  kinetic energy to increase by 5000J the same way that consuming a pound of cake does not cause your kinetic energy to increase by 1lb*c^2, you are still limited by your ability to convert between different energy sources. So A RC car would be able to use that battery to move around for several hours, YOU on the other hand will most likely just pass the battery through your body and the basic chemicals that are storing this electric energy will come out unaltered. The same way that a pound of cake can sustain you for a day, but try stuffing it into the battery compartment of your RC car and it won't move an inch. &amp;quot;Mass-energy&amp;quot; works much the same way, sure consuming a pound of cake increases your &amp;quot;rest energy&amp;quot; or by an enormous amount, but in reality there is no way to convert mass directly to energy so its much the same as swallowing a battery or stuffing cake into the RC car. [[User:DenisTR|DenisTR]] 17:05, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:At any rate, eating a pound of cake, is not nuclear physics, it is chemistry, where your cells digest and utilize the sugars within. Protiens are also converted into sugar.[[User:JonM|JonM]] 18:28, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Aschlafly, could you give us... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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... your interpretation of the results of the experiment by Cockroft and Walton? Cockroft describes in his Nobel Lecture how the kinetic energy of the alpha-particles could be provided by ''diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass&lt;br /&gt;
units.'' (p. 170). Please take into account that this isn't about energy in form of electromagnetic waves! &lt;br /&gt;
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If you don't address the results of the actual experiments, all your claims are just meaningless verbiage.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:39, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cockcroft (please spell his name correctly) does not even cite E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; in his Nobel lecture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:01, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't think that it is ''implied'' by the quote that AugustO provided? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:10, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::No, I don't.  E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is supposedly a general truth of universal applicability.  The case for it, if true, needs to be far stronger than what is quoted above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:15, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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From the lecture: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, your ignorance is showing:&lt;br /&gt;
17.2 MeV /c&amp;amp;sup2; = 1.602*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;-19&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;kg m²/s² *17.2 *10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;9&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;/(3*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;8&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; m/s)² = 3.0616 * 10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;-29&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;kg = 0.0184 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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In fact as this is such a ''general truth of universal applicability'',  J. Cockroft could take it for granted that his scientifically literate audience would be able to make this calculation.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:26, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::One question, though: We have four protons and four neutrons on the left hand side of the equation, and four protons and four neutrons on the right hand side. So why the difference in mass?&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, forgive my ignorance, but why is the 'energy' measured in volts? Volts are not a measure of energy.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:40, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Bainbridge measured the mass of &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li directly, using mass spectrometry.&lt;br /&gt;
*Indeed, three protons and four neutrons weight less than a &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li - kernel&lt;br /&gt;
*Energy is measured in this cases in [[Electron-Volts]]. One electron volt is the energy of an electron which passed through a potential of 1 Volt.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:54, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:AugustO, please contribute something substantive instead of talking up a storm. Thanks.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 11:56, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::James Wilson, please don't interfere in interesting and substantive discussions. Thank you! [[User:Baobab|Baobab]] 12:12, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;amp;quot;Baobab&amp;amp;quot;, please state what substance is coming out of this conversation. You have had a history of engaging in hefty talk. Please start contributing. I have had some great insights contributing in a few articles today and will continue to do so. Many thanks for your future contributions.--[[User:JamesWilson|James Wilson]] 12:47, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::&amp;amp;quot;James Wilson&amp;amp;quot;, AugustO is clarifying things and giving us some great insights, as CPalmer's latest reply shows. Discussions will often lead to better articles, which is why your interference was totally uncalled for. I guess your only motive was to defend Mr. Schlafly, but he can take care of himself and really doesn't need your help. Regards, [[User:Baobab|Baobab]] 13:30, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, AugustO. Relativity or no relativity, I am learning a lot from this discussion.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:00, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are posing excellent questions! Indeed it should be of interest for Aschlafly, too:&lt;br /&gt;
:::'''Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass?&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:42, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::What real evidence do you have that these particles even exist? No doubt you've read it in a book or some &amp;quot;qualified person&amp;quot; has said it is true.  In reality you accept these things on the word of somebody else - in other words your belief in the existence of these particles is a matter of scientific faith in something which you have no personal knowledge.  There is obviously no problem with believing things on faith, but please don't pretend it's &amp;quot;true because science says it's true&amp;quot;. Christians get their real truth from a higher authority.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 18:49, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I find Mr O's position to be rather odd.  He insists that Mr Schlafly - and only Mr Schlafly answers his questions.  Yet at the same time Mr O steadfastly ignores comments specifically directed at him.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 16:11, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::If you're referring to your question about how he knows that protons and neutrons really exist, I suspect he thought it wasn't worth answering. I tend to agree. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:15, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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@DavidEdwards: Sorry, [[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]], I didn't want to ignore you. I hadn't caught up after the databank mishap, I'm afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
So, to answer your questions: At school, we performed a couple experiments -there were teltron tubes, the Millikan  the photo-electric effect, the Millikan Oil Drop experiment, de Broglie's electron diffraction experiments, etc. These experiments confirmed my persuasion that the electrons, protons and neutrons are physically real entities. The proposed theories explained these effects - and sitting in front of a computer, I'm surprised that you aren't willing to accept the theories behind semi-conductors. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:25, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
@SamCoulter: There is some truth in your statement, too: it's like asking a priest: ''let's talk about your religion without mentioning Jesus''... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:28, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Restoration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I could restore this page to the last version which I had edited. I don't know whether there were more entries. This should help to restore the article: perhaps one positive effect could be that Aschlafly marvels about the questions in the previous section for a while and rethinks his position! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 18:36, 26 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Instead of the source - tag ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement in physics that purports to relate all matter to light.''&lt;br /&gt;
It relates matter to energy, the square of the speed of light is just the conversation factor&lt;br /&gt;
*''In fact, no theory has successfully unified the laws governing mass (i.e., gravity) with the laws governing light (i.e., electromagnetism).''&lt;br /&gt;
It isn't about gravitational mass, but about inertial mass. To identify both means to invoke the General Theory of Relativity&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Simply put, E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; is liberal claptrap. ''&lt;br /&gt;
How so? It works!&lt;br /&gt;
* ''Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the Book of Genesis.''&lt;br /&gt;
So, physicists should just give up looking for it? I dare to say that there are many Christian physicists - they may just not follow your special interpretation of Genesis!&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:29, 27 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; and Walton ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd appreciate an answer by Aschlafly (and him alone) to the following questions:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''1.''' Do you accept that the mass of the Lithium-kernel (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li), of alpha-particles (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;He) and of protons (&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;H) can be measured fairly accurately, as these are charged particles? &lt;br /&gt;
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'''2.''' Do you accept the measurements for the mass of the particles as used by Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; and Walton, i.e.&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;1&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;H||1.0072 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;He||4.0011 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;7&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Li||7.0130 amu&lt;br /&gt;
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If not, which values do you think to be right?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''3.''' Do you agree that before the reaction the mass of the particles involved was 8.0202 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''4.''' Do you agree that after the reaction the mass of the particles involved is 8.00220 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''5.''' Do you agree that there is a mass decrease of 0.0180 amu?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''6.''' Before the experiment, the Li was at rest and the proton had a kinetic energy of less than 1MeV. Do you accept these  values?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''7.''' After the experiment, a pair of alpha-particles was observed, both having an kinetic energy of 8.6MeV. Do you think that this value is correct?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''8.''' Can you tell me where the mass went? Can you tell me where the energy came from?&lt;br /&gt;
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'''9.''' If your answer to question 8. is ''no'' in both accounts, than my answer is that there is a theory which explains the conversion of mass to energy, even if you don't like it! &lt;br /&gt;
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As this theory works for this experiment, and for all the other fissions and fusions, it isn't liberal claptrap, but a meaningful theory. And you can't blame physicists for using it! Of course, you can blame journalist to abuse the formula - but this isn't the result of ''liberal physics'', but of ''bad reporting'', as an abuse of the dictum ''1+1=2'' doesn't reflect badly on number-theorists, but only on the person misattributing it.&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks, [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:04, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:AugustO, chemical reactions can release energy, typically based not on the size of their mass but on the electrostatic energy prior to the reaction.  Cockcroft's own paper accepting the Nobel Prize does not claim that his work proved that '''''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''.  Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula, or else we'd have seen far more claims of experimental verification of it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, you haven't answered any of the questions above! Instead you are talking about something completely different:&lt;br /&gt;
*We are not talking about a ''chemical'' reaction! You should know the difference.&lt;br /&gt;
*Cockcroft&amp;amp;sup1; claims that the energy comes from the loss of mass - and he calculates it according to ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;''. Please read (and understand!) his lecture.&lt;br /&gt;
*Please give a list of a few (or at least a single) experiment which contradicts the formula. This should be easy, as you stated that ''Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula''. Oh, wait, you made that up...&lt;br /&gt;
*Please answer the questions 1 to 9: all the question are covered in Cockcroft's&amp;amp;sup1; lecture, so I'd be interested in your explanation!&lt;br /&gt;
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:AugustO, if you cannot even spell Cockcroft's name properly, how can Andy take anything you say seriously? --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 22:03, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please move this article to [[Essay:E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;]]? Then I could ignore all the misleading and outright wrong statements in the first section! Thanks, [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:57, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Experimental Facts ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, on the one hand side, you state that ''no experiment distinguishes between &amp;quot;gravitational&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;inertial&amp;quot; mass'' - and that seems good enough for you. On the other hand side, you have a problem with the statement that E=mc² ''continues to be affirmed experimentally''. Do you spot the inconsistency? Indeed, I could write: ''the equivalence between inertial mass and gravitational mass has never been mathematically derived from first principles in classical mechanics, indeed, a rigorous proof of this equivalence is probably beyond the purview of classical theory.''&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, omitting the first part of the sentence ''&amp;quot;Leaving aside that it continues to be affirmed experimentally...&amp;quot;'' makes you look very disingenuous (even if you have good motives) to anyone who looks up the link to the abstract!&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance.  99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:38, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And the remaining percent are the physicists which draw such distinctions with good reason! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]]&lt;br /&gt;
:::Even more confusing is that the article states mass is a measure of inertia. Inertia is resistance to acceleration, and that has nothing to do with gravity at all. The article as it stands is simply inaccurate. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:51, 28 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Aschlafly: ''....may not even have any justification in the paper'' &lt;br /&gt;
::::Aschlafly, havn't you read the paper? Here is a part of the conclusion:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''Einstein produced about 18 virtuoso derivations and demonstrations all aimed at establishing the mass-energy principle. We have shown that although each of them gave evidence for the applicability of E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = mc&amp;amp;sup2; to a particular set of circumstances, no one derivation, or collection of them taken together, succeeded in providing a definitive proof of its complete generality. That should not be surprising because the same situation occurs, for example, with F = ma, which is a different kind of relation than E&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = mc&amp;amp;sup2;. Even so, 300 years of successful theoretical work have not proven the correctness of F = ma. Indeed, relativity showed that this expression, one of the bedrocks of classical mechanics, holds only approximately.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Here is another excerpt, on mass, electromagnetism etc:&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''In the 19th century, a number of European physicists, including the leading theoretician of the time, Hendrik Lorentz, were working to establish that mass was, in whole or in part, electromagnetic. There were primarily two competing theories, one by Lorentz, the other by Max Abraham. Both agreed that depending on the relative direction of its velocity and acceleration, an “electron” a generic charged particle moving through the aether could manifest both transverse and longitudinal speed-dependent mass components. There was even experimental evidence that seemed to confirm as much. Electromagnetic theory was then at the center of physics.''&lt;br /&gt;
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::::(May I add that I think one shouldn't make such fundamental statements as ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; has no meaning'', if one only skims a few abstracts! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, maybe you have not the time (or the access) to read the actual papers - as you should when drawing conclusions. But perhaps you can take a look at [http://www.lbl.gov/abc/Basic.html Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory's ABC of Nuclear Science] to refresh the basics?Even there, they use ''Einstein's famous equation...''... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:44, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== ...purports to relate all matter to light ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't relate the mass to  7.8474, but to the volume. So, similarly  Einstein's equations says that mass is proportional to energy, not light. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 10:38, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:But the constant applied in this case is the (square of the) speed of light! Are you saying that that is a coincidence? If so, why not just say &amp;quot;E=mc&amp;quot;?--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 10:57, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::no, of course not, but we could write, e.g., E&amp;amp;epsilon;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; = m/&amp;amp;mu;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;0&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;: the relationship is given between mass and energy... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:04, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But the relationship itself is somehow connected to light. Or maybe, the relationship is connected with some third factor that also determines the speed of light.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:58, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::yes, but the c² is a constant. Does the equation E/c²=m relate all energy to light? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:18, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yes - the equation in any form relates mass, energy, and the speed of light. I think the article doesn't emphasise the light-energy relationship because it's the mass-energy relationship that appears absurd once the theory of relativity is discounted.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 12:22, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Even if you discount the theory of relativity, the experimental facts remain: in experiments where mass is deleted or created, this happens with the release or absorption of energy. And this energy is given by &amp;amp;asymp;8.99*10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;16&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;m&amp;amp;sup2;/s&amp;amp;sup2; times the mass... [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 13:31, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::(Your footnote about the units is bogus. SI units are not arbitrary, since eg Joules can be derived from other SI units including kilograms, metres and seconds. Therefore, the relationship to light ''is'' (purported to be) a natural one.)--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:00, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ah, I see, no, not ''my'' footnote. The text was inserted by [[User:GregG/RSS_6#Mon.2C_26_Mar_2012_18:05:11_GMT_.28edit_by_MihailD.29_2|MihailD]], and obviously the equation holds in other systems, too. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 11:10, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I took out the main part of the footnote: it should be obvious that in a physical equation only compatible physical units can be used, and that otherwise conversion factors have to be introduced. But there is no problem, if we have c in feet/h, m in pounds, and E in pound*feet&amp;amp;sup2;/h&amp;amp;sup2; &lt;br /&gt;
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:I see - my apologies. I thought you had added the footnote in order to try and make the point above. I agree that in any sensible unit system the equation will work (assuming the theory is right of course).--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:32, 29 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Looks like [[User:MihailD|MihailD]] received a lifetime block for this and related edits, so he'll be unable to explain or justify his comments. --[[User:JasperK|JasperK]] 08:58, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::That's a pity! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:38, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== We will, we will, we will ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Generally I enjoy the great contribution of SamHB. My only rub: the ''royal we'' - ''we will dispel'', ''we will show'', ''we don't do''. I don't think that this is the best way to phrase an encyclopedic article, and I'd like to see alternatives. For the moments, I just commented out some of the occurrences which in my opinion spoiled the fun of reading the article....&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is a bit chatty. The first one could be rephrased &amp;quot;This article sets out to...&amp;quot;. I have reworded two of the others, and the rest might possibly be omitted entirely.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:44, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why you guys destroyed a wonderful original piece of work by Mr. Schlafly. There are hundreds of books and web sites that explain relativity, why did you feel the need to reproduce that content here? --[[User:AlejandroH|AlejandroH]] 16:18, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Perhaps because they are right and he is wrong? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:39, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Aschlafly, you still haven't answered my [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|reasonable questions abouts this subject]]. To be ignorant on a subject isn't that big a deal, but to willfully stay ignorant while lecturing about it, that is! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:32, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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BTW, the ''wonderful original piece of work'' was not destroyed - you find it embedded in the text. A blanket reversion of the work of a couple of editors should be a no-no, please give reasons for reverting at least for each paragraph! And answer the [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|questions!]] [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 17:42, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protection of the Article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Stated reason: ''(with reluctance, and repeated reversions; for now, post specific suggestions for edits on the talk page)''&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, this must be one of these definitions of irony, as I asked for specific reasons for your  deletions of material. Isn't that censorship? BTW, you still haven't replied to the [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|sections above]], and frankly I'm starting to call your knowledge on this matter in question! Ignorance is not always bliss! &lt;br /&gt;
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And if you are not willing to address the points made above by various contributors, are you at least willing to read and answer to ''specific suggestions for edits on the talk page''? Or is this a sham to force-feed your view to the readers?&lt;br /&gt;
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:The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis.  Simply put, the entry had denigrated into the ''antithesis'' of the truth-seeking integrity expected of ''Conservapedia''.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:41, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::And what about the current entry? The fact is that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is a perfectly valid equation demonstrating the equivalence of matter and energy and it has been thoroughly verified; the energy a piece of matter contains DOES equal its mass times ''c'' squared. This has been repeatedly demonstrated by experiments, which consistently show that the energy released by a reaction is equal within measuring limits to the overall mass lost. It's perfectly reasonable to reject any claim that this demonstrates the truth of moral relativism, atheism or anything else, but to criticise the equation itself as &amp;quot;meaningless&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;liberal claptrap&amp;quot; demonstrates no truth-seeking or integrity. E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is no more liberal than d=vt or 1+1=2. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 19:53, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The entry explains how nonsensical the formula is as a general principle -- and how it has never been derived as a matter of logic or demonstrated in any general, meaningful manner.  Reliance on [[hearsay]] is not a serious alternative.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:24, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::But it ''isn't'' a general principle. It's a mathematical expression of matter-energy equivalence and it's perfectly valid. Whether or not it's ever been derived as a matter of logic or not is irrelevant because it's been repeatedly demonstrated to be true in the most meaningful manner possible: if you turn matter into energy the amount of energy that comes out is always equal to the lost mass times ''c'' squared. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 20:59, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You restate the claim as though its repetition would make it true.  It doesn't.  If someone gains one pound in weight, then it is preposterous for anyone to claim that his energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:07, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Yes, it would be absolutely preposterous. In fact his energy would have increased by a number of foot-pounds equal to one pound times ''c''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; in feet per second. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:11, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::To explain that further, his energy would have increased in proportion to his '''weight''', not to the speed of light. If a person who weighed 150lb gained 1lb the energy contained in their mass would increase from 1.4467x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;17&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ft lb to 1.4564x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;17&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; ft lb. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 21:39, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The formula '''E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;''' does assert that his energy for a fixed gain in weight would increase in proportion to the speed of light squared and, as you say, that is preposterous.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::No, his energy for a fixed gain in weight will increase in proportion to his '''weight'''. In my example of a 150lb man gaining 1lb, his new energy content will be 0.6667% higher, '''as will his weight'''. ''c''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is just a constant. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 00:52, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Andy seems to imagine that this energy should be immediately available for sports or doing work around the house, and that we should all be superheroes after having eaten a bar of chocolate. This is, of course, not so. The energy is still locked up in the mass, and it would require nuclear or particle reactions to convert even small parts of it into useful forms of energy. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 03:28, 31 March 2012 (EDT)  &lt;br /&gt;
''The lead focus of the entry was converted into a parade of [[hearsay]] rather than logical analysis''. Then let's get factual: just answer a [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|few questions]]. Shouldn't be difficult, as you are so insightful. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:26, 31 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course this is hearsay - and so it should be. Conservapedia is an encyclopedia - a collection of established information cited from other sources. Hearsay may be inappropriate in court, but it is the lifeblood of an encyclopedia. Anything that is not 'hearsay' is personal opinion or original research, and should be reserved for articles prefixed 'Essay:'. --[[User:JasperK|JasperK]] 08:23, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Then again, heresy tends to be more reputable when it comes from a professional who has studied the issue for years, instead of a man who doesn't understand how food works. [[User:JackFerner|JackFerner]] 12:23, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed that [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=E%3Dmc%C2%B2&amp;amp;diff=971455&amp;amp;oldid=971446 this edit] removed publication information about the references.  Personally, I think this information is useful for two reasons: it helps Conservapedia editors locate the references from other sources if (and when) the links go dead, and it helps who print out Conservapedia articles and wish to look up the references offline.  (Of course, I'm not suggesting that the URLs be removed, but this could be in addition to the publication information).  Of course, there may be perfectly good reasons for removing the publication information of which I am not aware, but I otherwise think that the publication information should be included again (and I plan to do this once the protection expires).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 23:17, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great point.  I retrieved and added many of the citations back.  If I missed any then I'd be happy to add them also.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:37, 30 March 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Niels Bohr ==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy, for how often you rail against the Nobel Prize I'm surprised that you would try and use a former winner as an authority to support your misguided assertion. [[User:DennisR|DennisR]] 21:48, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even a broken clock (like the Nobel Prize) gets it right every once in a while!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:07, 1 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::''. As a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light, it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, including Niels Bohr. '' Who were these physicists? And what said Niels Bohr?  I couldn't find anything. In the famous ''Gedankenexperiment'' at Solvay, he accepted ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;!  [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:14, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And of course it ''isn't'' a &amp;quot;general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light.&amp;quot; It's a statement of equivalence between energy and matter. Andy seems to be obsessed with the idea that light is involved somehow, and that conflicts with his rather odd idea that the Bible forbids a unified theory. I can only wonder what he'll do if science comes up with a unified theory. Probably deny that too. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:16, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, according to the information I found (Einstein and Bohr at the Solvay-conference), Niels Bohr accepted ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;''. So, a fact-tag was the only alternative to downright deleting the sentence: it allows you to bring up your sources! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:31, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd have been amazed if he hadn't. Bohr was on the British team for the Manhattan Project, and he wouldn't have been much use at nuclear weapon design if he didn't accept E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:41, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Aschlafly, you have a tendency to make up claims (''As a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light, it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, including Niels Bohr. '', ''Undoubtedly many other experiments contradict the formula'', and, yes, '' &amp;quot;suddenly&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;at that time&amp;quot; is a nuance of the Greek ἰδού''). And when your bluff is called, you are miffed! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:00, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::''Protected &amp;quot;E=mc²&amp;quot;: insertion of a fact tag instead of finding and adding a reference.'' That is ridiculous: there is no way of ''finding and adding a reference'' for this made-up &amp;quot;''fact''&amp;quot;! &lt;br /&gt;
::It is, however, not very difficult to show that the ''fact'' was invented: just take a look into ''&amp;quot;Foundations of Quantum Physics I''&amp;quot;, a book written by Niels Bohr and Jorgen Kalckar. Here Bohr uses what he calls ''Einstein's relation'' without any trepidation! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:00, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Presumably, then, the relevant text should be changed to something like &amp;quot;it was widely rejected at the time by the leading 20th century physicists, although Niels Bohr later accepted it.&amp;quot; and then add the citation. Or you could clarify with something like &amp;quot;the liberal Nobel Prizewinner Niels Bohr&amp;quot;.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:18, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::*There is no reason to think that there was a time at which Niels Bohr didn't accept it! &lt;br /&gt;
::::*Is there any source which shows that it was ''widely rejected at the time''? Of course, there was the [[Deutsche Physik]], but does this count?&lt;br /&gt;
::::*That said: the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{fact}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; tag was absolutely appropriate. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::You make some valid points as the online evidence is remarkably scant, even though the disagreement between Bohr and Einstein is well-known.  This may be a (rare) example where the internet is less adequate than books.  I did add an explanatory footnote and the protection to the page should be expiring soon, if not already.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:22, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Einstein disagreed with Bohr regarding quantum mechanics. Could you provide a source that Bohr disagreed with Einstein on the theory of relativity? I can't find one! &lt;br /&gt;
*As I said, the &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{fact}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt; tag was absolutely appropriate, and I'll reinsert it, as I don't think that there are any sources to back-up your claim.&lt;br /&gt;
*Furthermore, I have difficulties to believe that Lord Rutherford had problems with ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;'', he seemed to appreciate the liquid-drop-model of Gamov, Bohr, et al.&lt;br /&gt;
*''a general claim of equivalence between mass, energy and the speed of light'': no one claims that the '''three''' are equivalent!&lt;br /&gt;
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== First sentence ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've changed the introduction to something a bit more encyclopaedic. Please don't revert without discussing it first. Thanks. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 16:28, 2 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Political Pressure ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''Political pressure has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of this nonsensical equation''&lt;br /&gt;
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More likely the fact that similar experiments as the one Cockcroft and Walton are performed by undergraduates in each department teaching physics around the world! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:30, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No, that would not explain why it &amp;quot;is impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in science to even question the validity of&amp;quot; E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Even if you think the formula is somehow true, surely you do not deny the political pressure in academia against anyone who might consider questioning it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:37, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::It's entirely possible for someone who questions the validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; to pursue a career in science; scientists are encouraged to question the validity ''everything''. However if they ''deny'' the validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; then a scientific career is indeed off-limits to them, for the same reason as it's off-limits to someone who denies that 1+1=2. The fact is, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. It's been verified time and time again. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 18:44, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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To talk about political pressure in this context is ridiculous. The conversion of Mass to Energy and vice versa and the validity of E=mc2 has been demonstrated experimentally  so often(an early example is given in the main page) that to deny that the equation describes observed nature flies in the face of observation and is thus unscientific. To question its validity without hard experimental evidence or a sound theoretical argument (neither of which has been demonstrated) would simply be a matter of scientific (in)competance.[[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 15:16, 3 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Aschlafly, if you argue against ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;'' out of a position of (willful)  ignorance, you won't be taken seriously. Unfortunately this is what you are doing, as your (non-) answer  [[Talk:E=mc²#A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockroft and Walton|above]] is showing.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Criticism of ''E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;'' on ideological grounds just doesn't work, as the adherents of the [[Deutsche Physik]] found out in the early 1940s.&lt;br /&gt;
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In general, if the map distance between two points is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;d&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; and the actual distance between the points is &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;D&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;, then the following formula is satisfied:&lt;br /&gt;
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where &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is the conversion factor &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\frac{5 \textrm{ mi}}{\textrm{map\,in}}&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  The equation above does not relate distance to five or map distance to quintessence.  Rather, it posits a direct relationship (or equivalence) between the map distance and the actual distance, related by a conversion factor.&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; posits a direct relationship between mass and energy.  It does not relate mass to the speed of light (or light itself), nor does the equation related light to energy.  Rather, &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; is a conversion factor, just like the &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; was in our equation for computing actual distances from map distances.  I hope this helps explain why some editors have concern with your statement of the relationship posited by &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 00:19, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:But Energy and mass have known meanings in other contexts, unlike the distances (in inches) on the map page in your example.  If Energy or mass were being redefined by E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;, then I think your analogy would work.  But people are not defending E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; by saying it entails a redefinition of Energy or mass.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:00, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The equation postulates how mass and energy can be interchanged while conserving the total amount of mass energy.  For example, according to the equation, a nuclear reaction that causes 1.0 kg of mass to be lost will produce 9.0 x 10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;16&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; J energy.  The amount of energy produced ''by the loss of mass'' is proportional to the mass lost.  It is the same sort of equivalence between the number of pounds you get at a currency exchange and the number of dollars you pay (which, come to think of it, is probably an even better analogy).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 01:13, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::(inserted reply here) E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; claims more than the relation between mass and energy is linear (which is itself implausible).  It also claims that the proportional factor is precisely equal to the speed of light squared.  Restating the meaning of the equation in plain terms demonstrates how implausible it is.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:41, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Energy and mass have known meanings in THIS context! The equation tells us how much energy will be liberated by losing a set amount of mass, or how much energy (for example hard gamma rays) is required to create a set amount of mass. It is a valid equation. It doesn't matter ''what'' objections anyone has to it based on principle or logic; it's been tested and it's correct. This is getting pretty frustrating. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 01:56, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps we should have two articles [[E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; (science)]] and [[E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; (new age)]]: every sentence Aschlafly writes on this subjects shows that he knows so very little about the science involved - and has no interest to get informed any further. Instead his methods reminds me of homeopaths and other quacks advertising their craft by misrepresenting sources, cherry-picking evidence and generally repeating false statements over and over again despite of better knowledge. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:05, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Schlafly, you've said that this equation &amp;quot;purports&amp;quot; to describe the equivalence of matter and energy. The fact is, it's been repeatedly tested and it ''does'' describe the equivalence of matter and energy. However I get the feeling that there's some misunderstanding here. What, exactly, is your objection to E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;? Do you think it's incorrect - in which case go check the experimental data - or do you think it's being used to advance some sort of political agenda? I think we've reached a deadlock here and to make any progress on improving the article it would be helpful to know what you think is wrong with the equation. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 02:02, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The problem is that it is a self-sustaining myth presented as &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot; by the same self-serving scientific establishment who have built an tautological edifice on nothing.  It is designed to subtly indoctrinate children into the world of moral, social and scientific relativity by suggesting that &amp;quot;everything is relative&amp;quot;.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 17:03, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The equation is nonsensical.  Mass has nothing to do with the speed of light, and cannot be equated to energy simply by multiplying it twice by the speed of light.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:33, 4 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Andy, how do you explain the result of the Cockcroft- Walton experiment? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 01:42, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::A very good question! Aschlafly, you could try to answer it by responding to [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockroft_and_Walton|this section above]]! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:01, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, do you have any source for this claim? It seems to be factual incorrect. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:27, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I looked into it and for me it is an ''ad-hoc'' fabrication to make a point - even the time-line doesn't work out: a '''''trustworthy''''' encyclopedia shouldn't work this way! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:58, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My dad's grandfather [[Charles Lane Poor]] also disagreed with this paper, although I think he eventually came around once enough evidence piled up for it. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:36, 9 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Why ''also''? There is no evidence that Bohr disagreed with the paper (therefore the statement about Bohr is ''factually incorrect'', i.e., false) and  the fabrication was removed from the article. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 04:18, 10 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Bohr and Einstein, though friends, had a famous debate about the new theories. If it was not about the particular 1905 paper you have in mind, then what were the Bohr–Einstein debates about? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:22, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::They had famous debates about [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr%E2%80%93Einstein_debates quantum mechanics], which has nothing to do with the 1905 paper. I'm not aware of any debates about relativity. Can you provide a reference? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:09, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Indeed, it is well known that Bohr and Einstein discussed quantum-mechanics - here is Niels Bohr's own account of these discussions: ''[http://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/dk/bohr.htm Discussions with Einstein on Epistemological Problems in Atomic Physics]''. Please keep in mind that Bohr was just 20 years old in 1905 - and only decided that year to drop philosophy and take up physics! If you can find any debate of Bohr and Einstein on purely relativistic matters, that will come as a surprise. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:41, 11 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I still don't understand why (a) Andy Schlafly doesn't know the difference between gravitational mass and inertial mass and (b) he seems obsessed over the speed of light in the equation.  The m in the equation is inertial mass! As others have stated, when talking about gravitational mass, you need to consider general relativity.What E=mc^2 says is that mass is just a form of energy. It says nothing about the unification of electromagnetism and gravity (it doesn't even say anything about gravity!). Moreover, do you, Andy Schlafly, understand that electromagnetism is not the only theory that has c as a special value? All massless particles travel at the speed of light. In GR, gravity travels at the speed of light. &lt;br /&gt;
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If you deny it, how do you account for changes in mass in nuclear reactions? How do you account for electron-positron annihilation as well as dozens of other examples of reactions that don't conserve mass in particle physics?  &lt;br /&gt;
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And by the way, as has been pointed out, if you deny special relativity, you have to reject Maxwell's equations. Are they a liberal conspiracy as well? --[[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:34, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Usually when we speak of an object's mass we do not distinguish whether we are referring to its inertial mass or its gravitational mass. This is because the quantity of matter present in an object, i.e., its mass, does not depend on the method by which it is measured.&amp;quot; [http://dev.physicslab.org/Document.aspx?doctype=3&amp;amp;filename=Dynamics_InertialGravitationalMass%2525252Exml]  Indeed, no measurement has ever detected a difference between the two.&lt;br /&gt;
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:As to your second point, chemical reactions can cause energy to be released, and the remaining mass to be reduced.  This is hardly astounding and certainly does not imply that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your third point is often repeated by Relativists but overlooks that Maxwell's equations were developed and demonstrated decades before the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Maxwell's equations survived just fine for years without anyone claiming that somehow E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.  Indeed, an assertion that people &amp;quot;have to reject Maxwell's equations&amp;quot; based on relativity suggests a mathematical approach to physics, rather than an observational one.  Are you aware of how Eddington claimed that a physical constant &amp;quot;must&amp;quot; have a certain value due to some mathematical rationale?  (He was wrong, of course.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:06, 5 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your first point: It's good that we all agree that inertial mass and gravitational mass are the same thing.  (This is the fundamental hypothesis of general relativity, by the way.)  But the term &amp;quot;mass&amp;quot; always means &amp;quot;inertial mass&amp;quot;.  Gravity never appears anywhere in special relativity.  Even if Newton's constant of universal gravitation (&amp;quot;G&amp;quot;) were zero, that is, we lived in a hypothetical universe in which there is no gravity, special relativity, the Lorentz transform, and E=mc^2 would still be true.  There should be no mention of gravity anywhere in the article.  But the second sentence of the article refers to &amp;quot;mass (i.e., gravity)&amp;quot;.  Please take that out.  I would do it myself, but I'd get it wrong, since I don't know what point you were trying to make.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your second point: That chemical reactions that cause energy to be released result in a reduction of the final mass most certainly '''''is''''' astounding.  No one had ever seen this, or suspected it, before E=mc^2, and it is doubtful that anyone has seen it to this day, since the effect is so small for chemical reactions.  The phenomenon is known only because we know that E=mc^2 is true.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Your third point: Yes, Maxwell's equations were developed decades before relativity, and survived just fine before anyone suspected that E=mc^2.  Your claimed &amp;quot;assertion that people 'have to reject Maxwell's equations' based on relativity&amp;quot; is not made by anyone.  It's the ''denial'' of relativity that would necessitate a denial of Maxwell's equations.  Maxwell's equations imply relativity, though Maxwell didn't realize it.  In fact, it was an analysis of Maxwell's equations, not the Michelson-Morley experiment, that led to relativity.  If we lived in a hypothetical universe in which there were no electric or magnetic forces, relativity would still be true.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You didn't respond to my point about [[Arthur Eddington]], who was the biggest promoter of the [[Theory of Relativity]] in the English world.&lt;br /&gt;
::::The reason is that has nothing to do with E=mc^2.  Your point about Eddington was presumably referring to the alpha=1/137 business, right?  I am aware of that.  It was in the late 1930's.  Would you like me to write an article about it?  I'd be glad to do so.  Eddington's promotion of relativity in England was in the 1920's, after the eclipse (his book was in 1923), and was about ''general'' relativity.  E=mc^2 is in ''special'' relativity, and was widely accepted by then. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 17:59, 7 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Simply put, the [[Theory of Relativity]] is a mathematical theory (which, by the way, is taught in math departments in some universities); this mathematical theory has never been based on meaningful physical observations.  Any statement that someone must reject Maxwell's equations if he rejects the [[Theory of Relativity]] shows how the mathematical cart can be incorrectly placed before the physical horse.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:21, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Of course it's been based on meaningful physical observations. To be more precise, it's based on repeated experiments where the relation between the observed mass loss and the observed energy release is E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I really don't know what your problem is, but to challenge the validity of something as thoroughly confirmed as E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is not going to get you anywhere. The equation is valid. --[[User:SamCoulter|SamCoulter]] 03:17, 6 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::My comments were aimed at people who accept that both mathematical theory and experimental observations have a role to play, and that they complement each other.  There is no cart and no horse.  Relativity, like Newtonian mechanics, involves both elegant mathematics and observation, and the observations buttress the theory very well.  It's possible for people to get carried away with the mathematics, as Eddington did with the 137 business, but that hasn't happened with relativity.  And yes, if you don't accept relativity, you can't make Maxwell's equations work correctly, though Maxwell didn't realize that at the time.  It was only later that Lorentz, Poincare, and Einstein fixed that. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 17:59, 7 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''As to your second point, chemical reactions can cause energy to be released, and the remaining mass to be reduced. This is hardly astounding and certainly does not imply that E=mc&amp;amp;sup2;. '' &lt;br /&gt;
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*The mass of the products of a chemical reaction is nearly equal to the mass of the reagents, because the energy which is involved is so much less than that of a nuclear fusion or fission.&lt;br /&gt;
*A kilogram of [[TNT]] will release 4.484 MJ of energy, if you break this down for a single molecule, you see that less than 10 eV are released per molecule in the explosion. Compare this with the 17,200,000 eV per nucleus in the experiment of Corckcroft and Walton!&lt;br /&gt;
*In fact, if you let the products of the explosion cool down, the equivalent of this energy will be missing - but it is such a small amount that it is hard to detect it. But nevertheless,  E=mc&amp;amp;sup2; could be observed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cockcroft's experiments were not performed until 1932 [http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-speech.html], and recognition for his work did not occur from the Nobel Prize committee until 1951.  I could find nothing in the Prize, Cockcroft's acceptance speech, or anything else contemporaneous that suggests that Cockcroft proved that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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One comment above suggests that E=me&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; was accepted long before 1932.  Based on what, mere politics?  This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically even to this day, and the first (dubious) proof for it was not observed until 1932.  Folks, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; seems to be based on politics rather than physics.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:02, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;This formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically&amp;quot;--It is more correct to say that the formula cannot be mathematically derived from first principles (in the way that Kepler's laws can be derived from Newton's law of universal gravitation) rather than that the formula cannot be demonstrated mathematically.  Indeed, experimental observation reveals that the added energy is proportional to the mass lost in a linear fashion, with &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;c^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; as the slope.  These are the same sorts of phyiscal observations that allow you to deduce laws like &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;F = ma&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; (apply varying amounts of force to a mass and see what the resulting acceleration is).  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 18:38, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The formula cannot be derived ''in any sensible way'', not merely a rigorous way.  Numerous attempts to derive it have been failures.  Moreover, the first claimed experimental observation for the formual was not dates from 1932, long after the formula was declared to be unquestionable dogma.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:20, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Could you please give us some references to these failed attempts? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 19:22, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::This took only one search on the internet: [http://discovermagazine.com/2008/sep/01-einstein.s-23-biggest-mistakes 7 failed attempts to prove E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:27, 8 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Aschlafly, your reading of Cockcroft lecture is insufficient. He writes: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units, '' so he thinks that energy can be provided by decreasing the mass of an object. And if you do a little math, you can see for yourself that he uses Einstein's formula to calculate the amount. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::As for the ''seven failed attempts'': Even if there were mathematical errors in the papers as your ''&amp;quot;source&amp;quot;'' suggests, it is not clear that they render the calculations invalid! &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I assume you've read the book and not just that chronology, Andy? Looks like an interesting read, even though the [http://einsteinsmistakes.com/the_author_5.html author] is a [[Professor values|professor]] in liberal [[Vermont]] and has written a [http://www.amazon.com/Special-Relativity-A-Modern-Introduction/dp/0971313415/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1333999210&amp;amp;sr=8-1 textbook] on special relativity. Incidentally, amazon.com gives access to a few pages of &amp;quot;Einstein's mistakes&amp;quot;. Let me quote from page 330: &amp;quot;His (Einstein's) first derivations of this equation, although flawed, convinced physicists that the energy-mass relation ought to be of general validity. In 1905, Einstein did not have available the mathematical tensor techniques needed for a correct derivation of this formula, but he instigated the theoretical investigations that later led von Laue and Klein to the correct derivation.&amp;quot; Could you explain in more detail why you think the attempts failed? Von Laue and Klein's attempts would be particularly interesting, because your reference claims they were correct. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 15:28, 9 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::A recent peer-reviewed scientific paper, which has been cited in this entry, also confirms that E=mc2 cannot be mathematically derived.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:53, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Aschlafly, have you read the paper? I doubt it, as your statement isn't entirely correct. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:06, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::You mean the paper by Hecht (2011)? That's also interesting. Let me quote from the Conclusions (I happen to have access to the paper): &amp;quot;Einstein produced about 18 virtuoso derivations and demonstrations all aimed at establishing the mass-energy principle. We have shown that although each of them gave evidence for the applicability of E=mc^2 to a particular set of circumstances, no one derivation, or collection of them taken together, succeeded in providing a definitive proof of its complete generality. That should not be surprising because the same situation occurs, for example, with F=ma, which is a different kind of relation than E0=mc2. Even so, 300 years of successful theoretical work have not proven the correctness of F=ma.&amp;quot; ... &amp;quot;That aside, countless experiments from Cockcroft and Walton63 to Rainville et al.64 have, with increasing accuracy, confirmed that E0=mc2 is one of the greatest insights of the 20th century.&amp;quot; But maybe that's not the paper you mean? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 17:18, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::That sounds like what the paper would have to say in order to be published, yes.  An academic journal will withdraw its acceptance of a paper if it conflicts with the [[Theory of Relativity]] in any way.  Anyone in academia who criticizes the Theory of Relativity in any way, no matter how minor, is risking the end of his professional career due to liberal orthodoxy.  [[Robert Dicke]], the greatest American physicist ever, was denied the [[Nobel Prize]] because he criticized the Theory of Relativity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:07, 11 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::And that doesn't sound like someone who actually read the paper! Drawing your conclusions just from your interpretation of the abstract (and wishful thinking) doesn't make a compelling argument. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:01, 12 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::How does Asclafly explain electron-positron annihilation? How do you explain that quantum electrodynamics (which is a relativistic theory) is the most accurately tested theory in physics? What's the theoretical basis for the spin of the electron if you deny SR? And are you telling me that Maxwell's equations are invariant under the Galilean transformations? [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:13, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::The claim that something &amp;quot;is the most accurately tested theory in physics&amp;quot; is a canard often heard by defenders of the [[Theory of Relativity]].  Step back, look at the phrase objectively, and it's easy to see that such a claim is unscientific.  Indeed, such a claim sounds like something one would hear in politics.  Not only are there more than three dozen [[Counterexamples to Relativity|counterexamples disproving the Theory of Relativity]], but the claim on which it was based (the advance of the perihelion of Mercury) is now disproof of the theory.  But notice how few people are interested in reviewing more precise data, and instead cite imprecise data that are a half-century old or more.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:49, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, I think you are underestimating both the scientific savvy and the inquisitiveness of the contributors here.  First, as you well know, but presumably don't like, those &amp;quot;counterexamples&amp;quot; are all wrong, and probably everyone here, except you, knows it.  They have been refuted on the &amp;quot;rebuttal&amp;quot; page.  Second, and this is my more important point, your claim that &amp;quot;few people are interested in reviewing more precise data&amp;quot; is not correct.  I would be interested in reviewing such data, as would nearly everyone else here.  Please post the data.  Don't bother with the full observed precession of 5600 (or whatever) seconds relative to the old equinoctial frame, or 574 seconds with the new celestial frame.  However that is calculated, the precession, after accounting for all the usual factors like gravitational effects of other planets and solar oblateness, is supposed to be 42.98 seconds or so.  Please give a citation for the data showing that the GR figure is wrong.  This argument has gone on for too long.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 22:17, 19 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Robert Dicke===&lt;br /&gt;
*Aschlafly, have you any reason to believe that R. Dicke had any problem with the special theory of relativity?&lt;br /&gt;
*Your reverence for R. Dicke is understandable, but surprising in light of your statement about the equivalence principle: ''It's hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance. 99% of people know what mass is, and it's directly related to weight, not electrostatic energy.'' R. Dicke took quite an effort to perform experiments on this ''hair-splitting jargon of doubtful significance''.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Robert Dicke's criticism of the general theory of relativity is well-known.  For that, he was disqualified from receiving the Nobel Prize, despite being the most accomplished American physicist ever.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:41, 18 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Robert Dicke's  criticism of the '''general''' theory of relativity may be well known, but we are here firmly in the realm of the '''special''' theory of relativity. And he didn't have problems with that one - so why have you? Are you a more able physicist than Robert Dicke? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 09:21, 19 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Speed and Kinetic Energy of Relativistic Electrons ==&lt;br /&gt;
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William Bertozzi [http://muj.optol.cz/richterek/data/media/ref_str/bertozzi1964.pdf performed some experiments] in 1964 to exemplify the effects of the theory of special relativity.  W. Bertozzi undertook the effort to measure the values involved as directly as possible. He writes:&lt;br /&gt;
:''In the past few decades, the successful operation of multi-MeV accelerators and the planning and interpretations of many high-energy physics experiments have affirmed and illustrated the results of special relativity. However, because these efforts generally involved many other concepts, the relations of relativity are not demonstrable from the data in a simple quantitative manner. The purpose of this paper is to describe an experiment that was performed to help fill the need for such simple and direct data for the teaching of relativity.'' (p. 551)&lt;br /&gt;
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So, these experiments seem to be performed with Aschlafly in mind! Perhaps Aschlafly can explain the data in a non-relativistic way (via quantum dynamics, the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics or even nuance of ἰδού?) &lt;br /&gt;
But there are even [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977 experiments for undergraduates] which show relativistic effects: &lt;br /&gt;
:''We have developed an undergraduate laboratory experiment to make independent measurements of the momentum and kinetic energy of relativistic electrons from a \beta -source. The momentum measurements are made with a magnetic spectrometer and a silicon surface-barrier detector is used to measure the kinetic energy. A plot of the kinetic energy as a function of momentum compared to the classical and relativistic predictions clearly shows the relativistic nature of the electrons. Accurate values for the rest mass of the electron and the speed of light are also extracted from the data. '' &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;Robert E. Marvel, Michael F. Vineyard&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then why hasn't William Bertozzi won a [[Nobel Prize]] for this work?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:11, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why should he? It is a relatively simple demonstration of a basic principle. Do you intend to ignore everyone who didn't get a Nobel prize? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 23:58, 13 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::If this were a &amp;quot;simple demonstration of a basic principle,&amp;quot; then that would be all the more reason why it should be recognized with a [[Nobel Prize]], given the lack of a prize for the same principle.  Indeed, has any [[Nobel Prize]] been awarded for a purported confirmation of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;?  (Cockcroft's work did not claim to confirm the equation.)--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:40, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::I find it fascinating how you on the one hand use the Nobel Prize as a source of authority when it hasn't been awarded for things you don't believe in and on the other hand berate the Nobel Prize as nothing more than liberal claptrap when it hasn't been awarded for things you do believe in. [[User:DVMRoberts|DVMRoberts]] 14:52, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::It's completely logical.  Some liberal claptrap is even too much for the [[Nobel Prize]] committee, and that's worth pointing out.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:58, 14 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A reminder ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, could you please answer the questions in the questions in the section above: [[Talk:E%3Dmc²#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton ]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm interested in your interpretation of their results. (But please take into consideration that a chemical reaction releases perhaps the 1,000,000th part of the energy per unit of mass as the reaction observed by Cockcroft and Walton.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Does Andy Schlafly Understand what E=mc^2 means? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, do you know what E=mc^2 means? You say that &amp;quot;E=mc² is a meaningless, almost nonsensical, statement that purports to relate all matter to light.&amp;quot; No. What it says is that matter is just another form of energy. That's it! It says nothing about unification of electromagnetism and gravity. Moreover, the m in the equation is inertial mass, not gravitational mass! If you look at any decent book on SR, it is the inertial mass that appears in the equations of relativistic energy-momentum. [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 09:42, 27 April 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Many questions in the sections above are still unanswered and I'm especially waiting for Aschlafly to answer those in the section ''[[Talk:E%3Dmc%C2%B2#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton|A few questions for Aschlafly regarding the experiment of Cockcroft¹ and Walton]]''. &lt;br /&gt;
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Aschlafly, could you at least provide me with your interpretation of the bolded sentence of Cockcroft's lecture: ''It was obvious then that lithium was being disintegrated into two α-particles with a total energy release of 17.2 million volts. '''This energy could be provided by a diminution of mass of 0.0184 mass units'''''? Feel free to show your calculations!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Many leading scientists ... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...(including Lord Rutherford and Princeton Physics Professor [[Robert Dicke]]) rejected the [[Theory of Relativity]].&lt;br /&gt;
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This article is about a result of the ''special theory of relativity''. &lt;br /&gt;
*Robert Dicke had no problems with the ''special theory'', he proposed an alternative to the ''general theory''. Or do you have a source where he attacked the ''special theory''?&lt;br /&gt;
*Ernest Rutherford thought that it was not beautiful, but he didn't reject the theory. Or do you have a source where he attacked theory for any other reason than being not beautiful?&lt;br /&gt;
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Without any source, the statement in the article is meaningless - it's more a reflection of the opinion of the main author of the piece and is as convincing as a sentence like ''Sir Isaac Newton wouldn't have liked the theory neither.''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Let's not dilute the truth here, OK? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, the truth is that more than 99% of all today's physics think that this formula is a marvel to behold. That this formula is ''liberal claptrap'' is only your personal opinion, Aschlafly. You haven't given any contemporary source to back this up. Are we expected to take your personal insights for the truth? I'm willing to do so only if you are able to present these insights in a comprehensible way, simply making a statement - and then repeating it over and over again - is not enough. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:59, 25 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed, let's not dilute the truth.  E=MC2 is experimentally proven every time you look at the sun or any stars, it's proven every time an atom splits in a reactor to generate heat that in turn makes steam to spin a turbine and make electricity.  I'm guessing the Sun being the center of the solar system is also &amp;quot;liberal claptrap&amp;quot; too.  The part that I think is so funny is that everyone here is debating the topic so much when there probably isn't a single person on earth that would turn to Conservapedia for an explanation of anything even remotely scientific. [[User:Ntyson|Ntyson]] 17:45, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A little clarification? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Schlafly, I'm trying to understand your assertion that the &amp;quot;energy&amp;quot; of an object is a function of &amp;quot;electrostatics.&amp;quot; I wonder if you can explain a little more about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, how is energy derived from electrostatic charge? Can you show the equation for doing this?&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you basing this on the common practice of expressing energy in electron-volts?&lt;br /&gt;
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Do neutral particles such as neutrons or uncharged atoms have energy, even though they have no charge?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Energy can be viewed as the ability to do work, as in applying a force.  Electrostatic charge can certainly do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Mass applies, at most, a very weak force, and it has no connection with the speed of light squared.  It's almost comical to claim that any meaningful statement of energy is found by multiplying mass times the speed of light squared.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:28, 14 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Unfortunately this doesn't really answer any of my questions. Yes, an electric field can apply a force. But the &amp;quot;strength&amp;quot; of an electric field is actually the same as a gravitational field: both decrease inversely as the square of the radius. The difference is that the strength of an electric field increases much more rapidly in proportion to charge than gravity does in proportion to mass.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, electric fields exert a force only on charged particles, which why I asked how we can calculate the energy of uncharged particles such as neutrons. Do they even have energy in the sense that you mean it?&lt;br /&gt;
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::And finally, I would still like to see the equations used to calculate the energy of a particle based on electrostatic charge. How much energy does an electron have? Is it the same as the energy of a proton (the charge is equal but opposite, but the mass is greater)?[[User:Pscott|Pscott]] 15:05, 16 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Why is it preposterous to claim that if one gains a pound in weight then their energy has thereby increased in proportion to the speed of light squared, but not preposterous to claim that if one gains a pound in weight then their '''''kinetic''''' energy has thereby increased in proportion to their speed squared? [[User:Occultations|Occultations]] 16:53, 21 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;E=mc2 does expressly purport to relate all matter to light&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Schlafly, could you please explain this statement?  It appears that this is a misunderstanding of the relationship of the mass-energy equivalence embodied by the equation &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  If a math student were to lambast the formula for the surface area of a sphere (&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;A = 4\pi r^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;) as relating roundness to the number 4 or spheres to squares, they would rightly be criticized for this obvious misunderstanding of a mathematical formula.  I think your misunderstanding of what &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;E=mc^2&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; means is similar.  [[User:GregG|GregG]] 19:00, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The surface area of a sphere is related to its radius, and to &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;\pi&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;.  But the claim that mass and the speed of light have any relation at all to each other, through energy or anything else, is absurd.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:21, 11 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Is your concern that the constant &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; happens to be the speed of light? Or do you dispute the concept of relativistic mass, where &lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;m_{\mathrm{rel}} = \frac{m_0}{\sqrt{1-\frac{v^2}{c^2}}}\,\, ? &amp;lt;/math&amp;gt; Are you saying that the speed of light does not belong in either equation, and that the &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; should be something else?  There are a number of equations in Einstein's Special Theory besides E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; and they hold together as far as they go.  Everyone agrees that a general theory of relativity has not been developed, but the ideas of mass energy equivalence and relativistic mass fit the data. The designers of nuclear reactors and satellite systems use these equations with success. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:47, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's a liberal fiction that E=mc2 has ever been applied in any practical way.  The equation defines rest mass in terms of the speed of light - an absurdity.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::With all due respect, relativity was factored into the design of the GPS satellite system.  If you want to calculate the energy release of an atomic bomb, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is very useful.  We don't know with great precision the speed of light, and we don't know with great precision the value of &amp;quot;c&amp;quot;.  But God gave us brains and curiosity, so we will learn more precise values for both.  So far, they match.  If someday in the future, someone calculates &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; and measures the speed of light to more decimal places and discovers that they are different, I will have an open mind as to why.  The constant &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; carries through consistently in Einstein's calculations for the Special Theory.  The coincidence that &amp;quot;c&amp;quot; happens to equal the speed of light is one of the beautiful things about God's universe.  Although I do not spend my life's work on theoretical physics, I am pleased that God has inspired some very smart people to devote their lives to thinking about relativity, and I wish them success and happiness. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 11:15, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Relativity was not factored into the GPS design, and E=mc2 has never been useful in any other way.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::We've discussed the claim about relativity and GPS over and over on this site, and as a matter of historical fact (not to mention obvious engineering efficiency), theoretical relativity was not part of its design.  It is far easier and more accurate simply to synchronize directly based on observation, as may be needed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:20, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::If relativity isn't factored into the GPS design, why does the &amp;quot;[http://www.gps.gov/technical/ps/1995-SPS-signal-specification.pdf GLOBAL POSITIONING SYSTEM STANDARD POSITIONING SERVICE SIGNAL SPECIFICATION]&amp;quot; (and you can't get more official than ''that'') state that they have to compensate for relativistic effects? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 12:30, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, why don't you answer August's question? What happens to that lost mass? And how do you explain E=mc &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; accounting for it exactly? The truth is that you live in a dream world. Your &amp;quot;insights&amp;quot; may sound like a nice way to view the world but when faced with a REAL counterexample and asked to back up your assertions you always just hide your head in the sand and fail to respond. Or use your classic 2+2=4 argument. Lol.--[[User:DamonRoss|DamonRoss]] 12:23, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The equation does not define rest mass in terms of the speed of light.  The equation defines relativistic mass in terms of the speed of light. If the equation were to define rest mass in terms of the speed of light it would have rest mass on the opposite side of the equation to the speed of light. Is your objection down to a fundamental flaw in your understanding of how equations work? [[User:VictorA|VictorA]] 08:03, 14 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Still waiting for an answer.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In March 2012 I asked this question:&lt;br /&gt;
:''    Aschlafly, two protons (1.0073amu) and two neutrons (1.0087amu) have a combined mass of 4.0320 amu. An alpha-particle - existing from two protons and two neutrons - has a mass of 4.0015 amu. How do you explain this diminution of mass? ''&lt;br /&gt;
I'm still waiting for an answer! --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:55, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified.  There has been no Nobel Prize awarded for it, for example, and there is no logical basis for even deriving the equation.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But a broken clock is correct twice a day.  Would someone claim that proves the clock is working??--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:21, 12 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Do you say that the size of the diminution of mass  just ''&amp;quot;happens&amp;quot;'' to coincide with the observed energy calculated via E=mc²?&lt;br /&gt;
::But how can there be a loss of mass? If you don't think that the energy-mass-equivalence is valid, what's about conservation of mass?&lt;br /&gt;
::Your &amp;quot;answer&amp;quot; is as good as a link to a video of fluffy kittens - or some proverb written in Chinese. In short, it is no answer at all, as '''you don't explain the diminution of mass.'''&lt;br /&gt;
::''&amp;quot;It's widely recognized that E=mc2 has not been experimentally verified. &amp;quot;'' That's just not true, I'm afraid.&lt;br /&gt;
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:55, 13 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I know a number of physicists who are good conservatives and good Christians.  They take their children to Sunday school. They don't like seeing government wasting money. And they believe in Einstein's theory of special relativity.  At one time, the Roman Catholic Church taught that the Earth was the center of the solar system rather than the Sun.  I personally believe that the Church's view on that subject did not have a reliable source in the Bible.  I understand how the Book of Genesis has been viewed as being in tension with Darwin's theory of evolution, but I don't see special relativity having the same tension with the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The question is whether the contradiction between the Bible and the equation E=mc2 is so direct and widely acknowledged that CP's users should receive an article that disparages the equation?  Thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:32, 14 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=E%3Dmc%C2%B2&amp;amp;action=historysubmit&amp;amp;diff=1018287&amp;amp;oldid=1018232 This edit] is a bit vexing and does not reflect the consensus reached on the talk page.  I understand the criticism directed toward the General Theory of Relativity, but for the reasons stated further down the article, E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; does fit the experimental data.  Based on everything that I have read, it is consistent with the Bible.  I do not want to get into the middle of a pre-existing emotional dispute, but I thought that I had come up with language that fit both sides.  CP is short on editorial manpower, and all of our time is very valuable.  I am disappointed on how this was handled.  Many thanks, [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 09:46, 15 November 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: Perhaps we could separate the experimental results from the general validity of E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. I was thinking of something like:&lt;br /&gt;
:''Some experimental results appear to show that when a small amount of mass is lost in a nuclear reaction there is an accompanying release of energy (approx x eV per amu of mass lost).''&lt;br /&gt;
:Sorry I can't calculate x, but it can be just a number without any c, light speed etc&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:''The conversion factor (x) is indeed close to the square of the speed of light if appropriate units are used. However:''&lt;br /&gt;
*:''The experiement has been done with only a limited number of nuclear reactions and in specific environments. This does not prove that this will occur for every  nuclear reaction in every environment, and cannot possibly prove that E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is always true''&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm assuming here that we accept the experiemental results as far as they go. If not, even better - we can link to some evidence that they are flawed&lt;br /&gt;
*:''The experimental results do not prove that the conversion factor (x) is '''exactly''' the square of the speed of light. More accurate measurements may show that it is different''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*:''No one has a convincing explanation of '''why''' E might possibly equal mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;. The most likely explanation is that the Creator designed it this way for some reason that we don't understand.''&lt;br /&gt;
:Would something like that help clarify the true position?&lt;br /&gt;
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::No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.  There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.  It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:52, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*''No [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for this implausible formula, so no meaningful experimental verification of it has occurred.'' That's just a ''non sequitur''&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''There is utterly no logical explanation for the formula.'' Why should there by? It works!&lt;br /&gt;
:::*''It's in the realm of science fiction at best, and not as good as other types of science fiction.'' No, it's not - that's just wishful thinking of you part. Even undergraduates can perform experiments which show relativistic effects - see [http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory] &lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's certainly a strange-looking formula. When refuting it should I be saying that mass is not actually being converted to energy in these reactions (i.e. the experiments are flawed and either mass is not being lost or the energy comes from somewhere else or something)? Or is it that mass is indeed being converted to energy but E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; is not a correct/meaningful/useful way to describe it? [[User:Peterw|Peterw]] 12:20, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, it gets demonstrated in practice about 3x10&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;10&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; times for every watt-second of power generated by a nuclear power plant.  Aside from observation, the theoretical question of ''why'' it should be true (and why the proportionality constant must be c&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;) was logically deduced, by Poincare, Einstein, and perhaps others (Roger Schlafly would be an expert on this point), before it was ever observed.  The last paragraph of Einstein's 1905 paper, after deducing it theoretically, speculated that it might actually be observed in Radium decay.  It was, and the rest is history.&lt;br /&gt;
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Clear expositions of why it must be true on theoretical grounds are not always easy to come by.  I like to think that the page I wrote on another wiki gives a clear and concise proof.  Anyone interested in my making it available here?  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 23:06, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I know that Albert Einstein won the 1921 Nobel Prize for his work on the photoelectric effect, and that no prizes were awarded during World War II. But didn't E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; show up a lot in the work of [[Hans Bethe]] on nuclear reactions and energy production in stars (1967 prize).  Hans Bethe lead the theoretical team at Los Alamos which designed the bombs dropped on Japan and certainly used the relationship on a day to day basis.  So, I don't believe it is correct to say that &amp;quot;No Nobel Prize has been given for this implausible formula.&amp;quot; I think that so many Nobel Prize winning discoveries in high energy physics depend on E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; or further confirm the relationship that it would be hard to argue that the Nobel committee has been boycotting E=mc&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;2&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; as pseudoscience. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 05:46, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:@SamHB: Having performed such an experiment for yourself is much more impressive than just thinking about actions in nuclear power plants or stars far away. Such an experiment [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|inoculate]]s you against arguments which are b|ased on wishful thinking alone.&lt;br /&gt;
:@Wschact: the formula E=mc² is virtually omnipresent: I've shown [[#Aschlafly, could you give us... |above]] that Cockcroft used the formula in his Nobel-lecture. Aschlafly tends to ignore such information.&lt;br /&gt;
:@Aschlafly: What do you think of the experiment for undergraduates ([http://arxiv.org/abs/1108.5977v1  Relativistic Electron Experiment for the Undergraduate Laboratory])? Have thousands of students falsified their results to fit the current &amp;quot;dogma&amp;quot;? Do you have another theory which makes predictions that are different from those of Einstein's theory, but which is consistent with this experiment? And could you give the answers to [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? The energy involved is to much for a chemical reaction...&lt;br /&gt;
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::Broken clocks are precisely correct twice a day too.  One or two bizarre experiments in more than a century of trying to prove the formula as a general proposition are hardly persuasive.  The [[Nobel Prize]] committee wants to recognize the formula has being demonstrated, but can't.  There is no logical support for the formula, as peer reviewed articles have virtually admitted.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:11, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The experiment for the undergraduates is hardly bizarre - what results would you expect? If you don't get the results as described, this means that '''your clock''' is broken, while the clock which most of us use  is correct uncountable times a day. And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? This is another non-bizarre and often repeated experiment... --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 14:25, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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August, please explain below any high school experiment that you think proves the formula.  You might your view why a [[Nobel Prize]] was not given for it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:36, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Aschlafly, you are a [[Andrew Schlafly|former engineer]], therefore you should have  the competence to review an experiment for undergraduates!&lt;br /&gt;
:*Not everything which is true can be shown at a high-school. You may say that in this case, the theory is beyond the scope of this project, but that is not the case: certainly the readers of this encyclopedia should be informed about such things, even if they can't do the maths themselves - or perform the experiments.  This demands of the editors of articles like this one that they are willing to get the knowledge of the subject! Indeed they should get more information than is put into the article at the end. A good teacher should know a little bit more than the curriculum of his pupils...&lt;br /&gt;
:*And please, could you give the answers to  [[#A_few_questions_for_Aschlafly_regarding_the_experiment_of_Cockcroft.C2.B9_and_Walton]]? I always try to answer your questions - and the questions in the section above aren't that demanding...&lt;br /&gt;
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::What's the relevance of the Nobel Prize? Was a Nobel Prize ever given for Intelligent Design, Flood Geology, Baraminolgy, anti-vaccine experiments or creation science? [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 15:00, 9 January 2013 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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== Question Evolution! Campaign is achieving its goal - people are questioning evolution! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''American [[young earth creationism]] increased in the last two years - Gallup survey.''' [http://creation.com/question-evolution Question evolution! campaign] and other efforts of creationists are working!.[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/06/american-young-earth-creationism.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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It is so good to be a Bible believing creationist! It is so easy to crush the pseudoscience of [[evolution]]ism. It merely takes getting the anti-evolution message out there.[http://creation.com/creation-timely-tool-for-todays-evangelist][http://creation.com/taking-creation-evangelism-to-the-streets]  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 07:34, 2 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Whereas I, a different user, though I am Christian, see no problem with evolution, and honestly trust science more than certain political pundits and loudmouths.''-unsigned comment''&lt;br /&gt;
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And I, another user, though I am an agnostic (however, I am inclined more towards atheism than ever due to articles like this) understand that evolution is a flawless theory. It is scientific fact, a certainty, that unnerves me as much as it does anyone else - and yet it is undeniably a fact because there is a huge body of evidence supporting it. This body of evidence is readily available in brilliant books that you can borrow from your local library, and impossible, if understood, to contradict (using logic and reason). It makes me sad to see debates raging on on this subject when the matter has long since been settled. Evoltuion is proven by the fossil record, without exception; by the science of genetics, without exception; it is actually played out visibly if you care to study the development of a human embryo; it sheds light (though of course, cannot be proven, as that would be a cyclical arguement) by the many oddities that plague human anatomy, such as vestigial tails, redundant organs, and certain instincts (like that twitch you feel when you are falling asleep and your arm falls: that is a best explained as remnant of a trait our ancestors developed to prevent themselves falling out trees). The often quoted existence of a 'missing link' is also imaginary, for reasons that would become evident to people who actually studied the facts of this issue. I am certain that every creationist, and evolution denier, in fact, every non ultra-Darwinist, has not thoroughly researched the topic. Charles Darwin and Richard Dawkins provide the most accurate overview of evolution in the scientific world. There is literally no reason to dis-believe in evolution, or even to believe in it. This is because it is not a question of belief. It has been proven. Therefore one does not need belief to realise it is true.''-unsigned comment''&lt;br /&gt;
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Recently my son, devout of faith, laughed, &amp;quot;Ten minutes in the Natural History Museum teaches you how great God is, and how true evolution is.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
Certainly the majority of Christianity agrees with him. I do. And it is sad to see the unjust criticisms here of science, which must, by definition, take a mechanistic viewpoint. I'd advise the authors of this article to bear in mind this paraphrasing of our Lord Jesus's words, &amp;quot;Render unto science the things that are science's. . .&amp;quot; God's works are great and it's difficult enough to understand his purposes without blinding ourselves with ancestor worship in the form of Biblical literalism. That's just another form of idolatry. There are infinite possibilities to see Him at work everyday in our personal lives.[[User:Klasovsky|Klasovsky]] 13:21, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[Jesus]] expressly referred to the [[Great Flood]], which university &amp;quot;scientists&amp;quot; deny today.  Who do [[Christian]]s say is right?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 13:58, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm a Christian. I also understand how allegories work. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 14:05, 8 January 2013 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a few things, such as in the opening that isn't accurate. There is not several theories of evolution, evolution is the only theory but there are some theories within of how some processes work. The statement that the fossil record does not support evolution is also wrong. It is one of the main points of evidence for evolution. The information about 700 scientists signing the statement that evolution is wrong should also mention the Steve Project, which has taken names just from scientists who are named Steve and have many more names than the Discovery Institute. There is also statistics regarding medical doctors who do not believe in evolution, but for some reason does not comment on scientists in general, such as this poll [http://www.people-press.org/2009/07/09/section-5-evolution-climate-change-and-other-issues/] which states that 97% of scientist believe evolution. [[User:Crzyclarks|Crzyclarks]] 20:32, 2 June 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is this article semi-protected like on Wikipedia, or is it fully protected so only admins can edit? I also added back the &amp;quot;Issues&amp;quot; section as it was removed for some reason. [[User:AcomaMagic|AcomaMagic]] 14:48, 18 August 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article needs to be unprotected. Only admins seem to be able to edit and from what I've seen, all admins are YEC's. The section above this one offers improvements to the article, yet it was removed by an admin and the fixes and suggested content still has not been implemented. In short, the article is embarrassing for the website and makes its motto look like a joke. Literally a joke made to poke fun at itself. [[User:AcomaMagic|AcomaMagic]] 08:49, 9 September 2012 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The Karl Popper quote is taken out of context. For example the next line is: &amp;quot;and although it is no doubt THE BEST AT PRESENT AVAILABLE, it can be slightly improved.&amp;quot; In addition, anyone who researches more will find that he recanted his view later in life.&lt;br /&gt;
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I find incidents such as this common throughout the page, and I humbly ask for it to be unprotected so that I can fix the mistakes throughout. [[User:TAbbott|TAbbott]] 8:12, 2 October 2012 (BST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|right|thumb|'''Then-Senator Obama wearing traditional African garb''', a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Public opinion polls show that despite [[liberal denial]], at least one in five or 17% of Americans recognize that '''[[Barack Hussein Obama]]''' is a [[Muslim]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Little-Voter-Discomfort-with-Romney%E2%80%99s-Mormon-Religion.aspx|title=Little Voter Discomfort with Romney’s Mormon Religion|date=July 26, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013|work=Pew Research Center|quote= Currently, 17% of registered voters say that Obama is Muslim}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41248.html August 2010 Pew Research poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Obama himself has professed to be a Christian; When interviewed by ''Christianity Today'' magazine, Obama said:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;There is one thing that I want to mention that I think is important. Part of what we've been seeing during the course of this campaign is some scurrilous e-mails that have been sent out, denying my faith, talking about me being a Muslim, suggesting that I got sworn in at the U.S. Senate with a Quran in my hand or that I don't pledge allegiance to the flag. I think it's really important for your readers to know that I have been a member of the same church for almost 20 years, and I have never practiced Islam. I am respectful of the religion, but it's not my own. One of the things that's very important in this day and age is that we don't use religion as a political tool and certainly that we don't lie about religion as a way to score political points. I just thought it was important to get that in there to dispel rumors that have been over the Internet. We've done so repeatedly, but obviously it's a political tactic of somebody to try to provide this misinformation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/104-32.0.html?start=2|title=Q&amp;amp;A: Barack Obama|date=January 2008|work=Christianity Today|accessdate=January 4, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's unusual selection of [[Chuck Hagel]], a former Republican senator most sympathetic to Muslim positions in the Middle East, to be Secretary of Defense despite intense objections by both political parties.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife [[Michelle Obama|Michelle]] does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until [[France]], but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama seems to emotionally hold a Muslim view about Israel, in contrast with Americans who have been educated as Obama has.  Obama has never visited Israel as president despite repeated criticisms of his failure to do so, he waited many days before even mentioning the rocket attacks on Israel in late 2012, and he doesn't appear comfortable even discussing issues related to Israel. &lt;br /&gt;
*In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to [[Jesus]] as &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Son of God rather than as &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; Son of God: &amp;quot;And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as '''''a'' Son of God''', but as a human being.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-jesus-son-god&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LA ''Times''. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Although Obama attended a [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as some do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;[[Saint Paul|Paul]]&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama also used his middle name when sworn in as President.  However, even if he were actually a [[Muslim]], he would ''not'' necessarily have to change his name according to Muslim tradition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;.http://zawaj.com/articles/do-muslim-converts-have-to-change-their-names.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has said &amp;quot;[[John McCain]] has not talked about [[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in an interview with [[George Stephanopoulos]] discussing whether John McCain's campaign has suggested that Obama is not a Christian. George Stephanopoulos -- who had previously been a high-ranking Democrat in the [[Clinton Administration]] -- then suggested that Obama change his answer to refer instead to &amp;quot;Christian faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/?page=all Christina Bellantoni, &amp;quot;Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics&amp;quot;, ''Washington Times'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: [[Allah]] is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the ''Autobiography of [[Malcolm X]]'', which was co-written by [[Alex Haley]], inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which was a general discussion of US foreign policy that was on the non-fiction best-seller lists for weeks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although Zakaria had Muslim ancestors, he is a non-Muslim educated at Yale with a Ph.D. from Harvard.&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] allows adherents to deny they are Muslim if it would be dangerous not to.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;[[Pakistan]]&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama favors [[Pakistan]], a Muslim nation, in its conflicts with [[India]], a mostly [[Hindu]] nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Indian press has been highly critical of Obama about this. [http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/obama-india-relations-indispensible-pushes-placement-un]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, the Obama Administration's relationship with Pakistan could be driven by its critical role in the battle against [[al-Qaeda]] in [[Afghanistan]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in [[Chicago]] prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 [[Million Man March]] led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one [[mosque]]&amp;quot; in [[Kenya]] while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;[[Renegade]]&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', which originally meant &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Hussein Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Liberal sources claim that this is due to security concerns.  However, in general, Presidents rarely attend weekly church services while in office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blackberry-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272#.T5jUxp8rpfV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet, the Obama family has attended Christian church serves at various times since becoming President in 2009.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/obamas-church-service-dc_n_1209002.html|title=Where The Obama Family Has Worshiped In D.C.|work=Huffington Post|date=January 16, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, Justice [[John Roberts]] failed to administer the [[oath of office]] correctly while Obama placed his hand on a Bible.  To avoid any claims that Obama was not the real President because of mis-stating the oath, Roberts dropped by the White House to re-administering the oath the next day, but no bible was used for that private re-do of the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the [[G-20]] summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to [[Saudi Arabia|Saudi]] King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{dead link}}&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of [[Las Vegas]] for unknown reasons, and Obama has also criticized state lotteries despite being heavily favored by most [[Democrats]]. The reason may be that [[gambling]] is forbidden in the [[Koran]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and frowned upon by many Protestant denominations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CE0QFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efa2009.org%2Fpapers%2FSSRN-id1335855.pdf&amp;amp;ei=h7kUUPHTA8aBqgHysIHYCw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG1qfZFDgF1FpHG46FFDbMGzBu0Iw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2006, Obama gave an irreverent speech about using the Bible in public policy. It resembled a stand-up comedy act, with Obama making fun of the books of the [[Torah]], the [[Ten Commandments]], the [[Sermon on the Mount]] and other key Biblical passages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2010, while Obama was president, the Missile Defense Agency changed its logo, incorporating a crescent and star.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://loganswarning.com/2010/02/23/us-missile-defense-agency-changes-logo-to-obamaislamic-crescent-hybrid/ US Missile Defense Agency Changes Logo to Obama~Islamic Crescent Hybrid!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo closely resembles that of the [[Iran]]ian Space Agency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prlog.org/10550380-missile-defense-agency-logo-new-twist-to-the-tale.html Missile Defense Agency Logo – A new twist to the tale]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo was designed in 2007, prior to Obama's election as president.&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2012, Obama participated in a $40,000 per plate fundraiser on [[Holy Thursday]], which many devout Christians would find to be inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*On September 25, 2012, in his address to [[United Nations General Assembly]], Obama said that &amp;quot;'''The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/ Transcript: Obama address to U.N. General Assembly] (September 25, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This outrageous comment was predictably ignored by the [[lamestream media]], but rightly highlighted by Conservative commentators.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/ Media ignore Obama attack on ‘those who slander the Prophet of Islam’] (September 26, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's spiritual mentor of 20 years, Rev. [[Jeremiah Wright]] explained in an interview &amp;quot;that Barack Obama was steeped in Islam when he first met him,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thenewamerican.com/component/k2/item/12165-obama-called-our-most-toxic-president?Itemid=667 Obama Called Our Most &amp;quot;Toxic&amp;quot; President, New American, July 20th 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and said he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having renounce his Islamic background. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/jeremiah-wright-i-made-it-comfortable-for-obama-to-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-islam/ Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report), The Gateway Pundit, may 10, 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obamacare]] has a provision enabling groups that have a religious objection to the individual mandate and who have forfeited the benefits of Social Security (such as the Amish) to claim a religious conscience opt-out of the individual mandate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5000A 26 U.S.C. 5000A (d)(2)(A)]; [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1402 26 U.S.C. 1402(g)(1)]; [https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110225035 &amp;quot;RM 10225.035 SSNs for the Amish and Mennonites (and Other Religious Exempt Communities)&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Muslims would not be eligible for a religious exemption from the individual mandate,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/137221/ Does your faith free you from forced Obamacare?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although other online commentators speculate that Muslims would be eligible for a religious exemption.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/2011/eric-burns/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/ Muslims Exempt from ObamaCare? FrontPage Magazine, Oct. 14, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama further impedes the Christian faith on gay rights, telling military chaplains a conscience clause that would allow military chaplains to opt-out of performing gay marriages is “unnecessary and ill-advised.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/obama-calls-conscience-clause-for-military-chaplains-ill-advised.html Obama calls Conscience Clause for Military Chaplains “Ill-Advised”, Fox News, January 3, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama to pick [[Chuck Hagel]] as Defense Secretary, a person on record giving anti-Semetic speeches. Iranian State Press approves of the choice. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://freebeacon.com/iran-state-tv-praises-obamas-anti-israel-hagel-selection/ Iran State TV Praises Obama’s ‘anti-Israel’ Hagel selection]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya]]n [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (This obviously does not completely rule out the possibility that his father was a member of that 1%, because his father was in the small minority that left Kenya to be educated in the US.) There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in [[Massachusetts]] from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama toured a mosque in [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Muslim agenda of the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mystery:Why_Do_Some_Oppose_the_Likelihood_that_Obama_Is_Muslim%3F]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Obama's Religion</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: Cut to the chase, we all know when he took office&lt;/p&gt;
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Public opinion polls show that despite [[liberal denial]], at least one in five or 17% of Americans recognize that '''[[Barack Hussein Obama]]''' is a [[Muslim]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Little-Voter-Discomfort-with-Romney%E2%80%99s-Mormon-Religion.aspx|title=Little Voter Discomfort with Romney’s Mormon Religion|date=July 26, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013|work=Pew Research Center|quote= Currently, 17% of registered voters say that Obama is Muslim}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41248.html August 2010 Pew Research poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Obama himself has professed to be a Christian; When interviewed by ''Christianity Today'' magazine, Obama said:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;There is one thing that I want to mention that I think is important. Part of what we've been seeing during the course of this campaign is some scurrilous e-mails that have been sent out, denying my faith, talking about me being a Muslim, suggesting that I got sworn in at the U.S. Senate with a Quran in my hand or that I don't pledge allegiance to the flag. I think it's really important for your readers to know that I have been a member of the same church for almost 20 years, and I have never practiced Islam. I am respectful of the religion, but it's not my own. One of the things that's very important in this day and age is that we don't use religion as a political tool and certainly that we don't lie about religion as a way to score political points. I just thought it was important to get that in there to dispel rumors that have been over the Internet. We've done so repeatedly, but obviously it's a political tactic of somebody to try to provide this misinformation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/104-32.0.html?start=2|title=Q&amp;amp;A: Barack Obama|date=January 2008|work=Christianity Today|accessdate=January 4, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite this, some believe him to be a Muslim.  The following is a list of items that some say indicates that Obama is a Muslim:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's unusual selection of [[Chuck Hagel]], a former Republican senator most sympathetic to Muslim positions in the Middle East, to be Secretary of Defense despite intense objections by both political parties.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife [[Michelle Obama|Michelle]] does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until [[France]], but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama seems to emotionally hold a Muslim view about Israel, in contrast with Americans who have been educated as Obama has.  Obama has never visited Israel as president despite repeated criticisms of his failure to do so, he waited many days before even mentioning the rocket attacks on Israel in late 2012, and he doesn't appear comfortable even discussing issues related to Israel. &lt;br /&gt;
*In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to [[Jesus]] as &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Son of God rather than as &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; Son of God: &amp;quot;And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as '''''a'' Son of God''', but as a human being.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-jesus-son-god&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LA ''Times''. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Although Obama attended a [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as some do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;[[Saint Paul|Paul]]&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama also used his middle name when sworn in as President.  However, even if he were actually a [[Muslim]], he would ''not'' necessarily have to change his name according to Muslim tradition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;.http://zawaj.com/articles/do-muslim-converts-have-to-change-their-names.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has said &amp;quot;[[John McCain]] has not talked about [[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in an interview with [[George Stephanopoulos]] discussing whether John McCain's campaign has suggested that Obama is not a Christian. George Stephanopoulos -- who had previously been a high-ranking Democrat in the [[Clinton Administration]] -- then suggested that Obama change his answer to refer instead to &amp;quot;Christian faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/?page=all Christina Bellantoni, &amp;quot;Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics&amp;quot;, ''Washington Times'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: [[Allah]] is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the ''Autobiography of [[Malcolm X]]'', which was co-written by [[Alex Haley]], inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which was a general discussion of US foreign policy that was on the non-fiction best-seller lists for weeks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although Zakaria had Muslim ancestors, he is a non-Muslim educated at Yale with a Ph.D. from Harvard.&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] allows adherents to deny they are Muslim if it would be dangerous not to.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;[[Pakistan]]&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama favors [[Pakistan]], a Muslim nation, in its conflicts with [[India]], a mostly [[Hindu]] nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Indian press has been highly critical of Obama about this. [http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/obama-india-relations-indispensible-pushes-placement-un]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, the Obama Administration's relationship with Pakistan could be driven by its critical role in the battle against [[al-Qaeda]] in [[Afghanistan]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in [[Chicago]] prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 [[Million Man March]] led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one [[mosque]]&amp;quot; in [[Kenya]] while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;[[Renegade]]&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', which originally meant &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Hussein Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Liberal sources claim that this is due to security concerns.  However, in general, Presidents rarely attend weekly church services while in office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blackberry-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272#.T5jUxp8rpfV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet, the Obama family has attended Christian church serves at various times since becoming President in 2009.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/obamas-church-service-dc_n_1209002.html|title=Where The Obama Family Has Worshiped In D.C.|work=Huffington Post|date=January 16, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, Justice [[John Roberts]] failed to administer the [[oath of office]] correctly while Obama placed his hand on a Bible.  To avoid any claims that Obama was not the real President because of mis-stating the oath, Roberts dropped by the White House to re-administering the oath the next day, but no bible was used for that private re-do of the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the [[G-20]] summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to [[Saudi Arabia|Saudi]] King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{dead link}}&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of [[Las Vegas]] for unknown reasons, and Obama has also criticized state lotteries despite being heavily favored by most [[Democrats]]. The reason may be that [[gambling]] is forbidden in the [[Koran]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and frowned upon by many Protestant denominations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CE0QFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efa2009.org%2Fpapers%2FSSRN-id1335855.pdf&amp;amp;ei=h7kUUPHTA8aBqgHysIHYCw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG1qfZFDgF1FpHG46FFDbMGzBu0Iw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2006, Obama gave an irreverent speech about using the Bible in public policy. It resembled a stand-up comedy act, with Obama making fun of the books of the [[Torah]], the [[Ten Commandments]], the [[Sermon on the Mount]] and other key Biblical passages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2010, while Obama was president, the Missile Defense Agency changed its logo, incorporating a crescent and star.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://loganswarning.com/2010/02/23/us-missile-defense-agency-changes-logo-to-obamaislamic-crescent-hybrid/ US Missile Defense Agency Changes Logo to Obama~Islamic Crescent Hybrid!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo closely resembles that of the [[Iran]]ian Space Agency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prlog.org/10550380-missile-defense-agency-logo-new-twist-to-the-tale.html Missile Defense Agency Logo – A new twist to the tale]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo was designed in 2007, prior to Obama's election as president.&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2012, Obama participated in a $40,000 per plate fundraiser on [[Holy Thursday]], which many devout Christians would find to be inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*On September 25, 2012, in his address to [[United Nations General Assembly]], Obama said that &amp;quot;'''The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/ Transcript: Obama address to U.N. General Assembly] (September 25, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This outrageous comment was predictably ignored by the [[lamestream media]], but rightly highlighted by Conservative commentators.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/ Media ignore Obama attack on ‘those who slander the Prophet of Islam’] (September 26, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's spiritual mentor of 20 years, Rev. [[Jeremiah Wright]] explained in an interview &amp;quot;that Barack Obama was steeped in Islam when he first met him,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thenewamerican.com/component/k2/item/12165-obama-called-our-most-toxic-president?Itemid=667 Obama Called Our Most &amp;quot;Toxic&amp;quot; President, New American, July 20th 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and said he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having renounce his Islamic background. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/jeremiah-wright-i-made-it-comfortable-for-obama-to-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-islam/ Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report), The Gateway Pundit, may 10, 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obamacare]] has a provision enabling groups that have a religious objection to the individual mandate and who have forfeited the benefits of Social Security (such as the Amish) to claim a religious conscience opt-out of the individual mandate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5000A 26 U.S.C. 5000A (d)(2)(A)]; [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1402 26 U.S.C. 1402(g)(1)]; [https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110225035 &amp;quot;RM 10225.035 SSNs for the Amish and Mennonites (and Other Religious Exempt Communities)&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Muslims would not be eligible for a religious exemption from the individual mandate,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/137221/ Does your faith free you from forced Obamacare?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although other online commentators speculate that Muslims would be eligible for a religious exemption.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/2011/eric-burns/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/ Muslims Exempt from ObamaCare? FrontPage Magazine, Oct. 14, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama further impedes the Christian faith on gay rights, telling military chaplains a conscience clause that would allow military chaplains to opt-out of performing gay marriages is “unnecessary and ill-advised.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/obama-calls-conscience-clause-for-military-chaplains-ill-advised.html Obama calls Conscience Clause for Military Chaplains “Ill-Advised”, Fox News, January 3, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama to pick [[Chuck Hagel]] as Defense Secretary, a person on record giving anti-Semetic speeches. Iranian State Press approves of the choice. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://freebeacon.com/iran-state-tv-praises-obamas-anti-israel-hagel-selection/ Iran State TV Praises Obama’s ‘anti-Israel’ Hagel selection]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya]]n [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (This obviously does not completely rule out the possibility that his father was a member of that 1%, because his father was in the small minority that left Kenya to be educated in the US.) There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in [[Massachusetts]] from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama toured a mosque in [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Muslim agenda of the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mystery:Why_Do_Some_Oppose_the_Likelihood_that_Obama_Is_Muslim%3F]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Anthropological Revolution''' is, according to mathematician and former [[Slovakia|Slovakian]] Minister of the Interior Vladimír Palko, a movement that encompasses a broad range of phenomena taking place primarily in the contemporary [[liberal]] western society, although in general it is a truly global phenomenon. &lt;br /&gt;
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The term refers to new liberal political thinking and [[leftist]] politics with roots that can be traced at least as far back to the aftermath of [[WWII]] and the [[Cold war]]. There can be discerned its link leading to [[Marxism-Leninism]]. This new leftists philosophy and politics is however characterized by lack of the highest guardian for its purity, the task that was previously assumed in the leftist camp of Marxist-Leninist style to be carried out by [[Kremlin]]. There is no hierarchical power structure associated with it either but still its functioning resembles to network. It does not operate by obeying orders hence it does not have any agreed-upon name either. Nevertheless all adherents of it appear to act as if they would know their particular roles well to make smooth way for its agenda. This somewhat fuzzy umbrella philosophy presents revolutionary view on what brings happiness to humans in their intimate domains of family and sexual relationships, introduces new morals for human beings in their boundary moments of entering and departing the world and at bottom line it can be called the philosophy of the anthropological revolution.&lt;br /&gt;
This new philosophy, also based on [[moral relativism]] and policies stemming from it such as double-dealing, [[Machiavellianism]] and [[psychological manipulation]], has taken roots in modern Western Society and ostensibly reaps success in influencing the contemporary thinking. The traditional order and values are represented by [[Christianity]] that is henceforce implicitly assumed to be the main obstacle for modern liberalism and thus becomes the first-line enemy against which anthropological revolution leads undeclared war. Some claim modern liberalism of anthropological revolution is nowadays countered by [[pro-life]] movement similarly to [[Ronald Regan|Regan]]’s anti-communism standing on the other side of barricade against Marxism-Leninism during the [[Cold war]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lions&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
|author=Vladimír Palko&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Levy prichdzajú (Lions are coming)&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=Vydavateľstvo Michala Vaška&lt;br /&gt;
|location=Prešov, Slovakia&lt;br /&gt;
|year=2012&lt;br /&gt;
|language=Slovak&lt;br /&gt;
|isbn=978-80-7165-870-2&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://blog.tyzden.sk/juraj-macko/2012/4/17/levy-prichadzaju-alebo-leninovi-bratranci-v-ruchu-baranka/&lt;br /&gt;
|quote=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
==Historical background==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1926 [[Gilbert Keith Chesterton]] predicted in his essay “The Next Heresy” that the next coming [[heresy]] in the world will be the attack on [[morality]], especially sexual morality:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Chesterton and Friends&lt;br /&gt;
|author=&lt;br /&gt;
|date= FEBRUARY 22, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://chestertonandfriends.blogspot.no/2007/02/heresys-kiss.html&lt;br /&gt;
|accessdate=2012-10-20&lt;br /&gt;
}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;For the next great heresy is going to be simply an attack on morality; and especially on sexual morality. And it is coming, not from a few Socialists surviving from the [[Fabian Society]], but from the living exultant energy of the rich resolved to enjoy themselves at last, with neither Popery nor [[Puritans|Puritanism]] nor [[Socialism]] to hold them back … The madness of tomorrow is not in Moscow, but much more in Manhattan.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 1956 Nikita Khrushchev revealed in his address to communist delegates participating in an unofficial meeting of the Twentieth Party Congress that Stalin, who was for thirty years the leader of the Soviet Communist party, soviet state and international communist movement, was the criminal of striking sort. Historians Medvedevs wrote that after the speech, number of people had upset stomach and had to be either braced or even carried out of the meeting hall.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Neznámy Stalin (Unknown Stalin)|author=Žores A. Medvedev and Roj A. Medvedev&lt;br /&gt;
|pages=96&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=Slovart&lt;br /&gt;
|place=Bratislava&lt;br /&gt;
|year=2006&lt;br /&gt;
|isbn= 80-8085-095-X&lt;br /&gt;
|language=Slovak&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=UyRXGQAACAAJ&amp;amp;dq=80-8085-095-X&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=9uaAF-nX-y&amp;amp;sig=QN63JbOfu_6IzTLvw9k2earJeQU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=DdaCUKLULe-Y1AXe0oDIAw&amp;amp;redir_esc=y}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although the “secret speech” was meant to remain confidential, the information gradually leaked to outsiders, reached the western world and confirmed what many already had anticipated.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Lectures on Twentieth Century Europe: Khrushchev’s Secret Speech, 1956|author= Steven Kreis |publisher= The History Guide|year=2000-2004 |accessdate=2012-10-20|url= http://www.historyguide.org/europe/khrush_speech.html }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The disillusioned western leftist intellectuals found themselves to face the dilemma{{#tag:ref|Superstar of French culture, actor and chansonnier Yves Montand humbly concluded after soviet tanks rolled over the Hungarian Revolution and when Khrushchev spouted barefaced lies about what happened there: &amp;quot;We have been stupid, stupid and dangerous!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|author= Brad Darrach&lt;br /&gt;
|title= Yves Montand: Amid Memories of Old Wars and Lost Loves, the Most Seductive of Frenchmen Looks Ahead to New Conquests&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher= Time Inc. &lt;br /&gt;
|date=1988-May-16&lt;br /&gt;
|volume=29&lt;br /&gt;
|issue=19&lt;br /&gt;
|url= http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20098963,00.html&lt;br /&gt;
|accessdate=2012-10-20&lt;br /&gt;
|quote= Until he was 35, Montand was a Stalinist, though he never actually joined the Party. But in 1956, when Russian tanks rolled over the Hungarian Revolution, he smelled a very large rat. Later that year he smelled another when he and Simone had a heated three-hour clash with Khrushchev, who spouted barefaced lies about what happened in Budapest. &amp;quot;We have been stupid, stupid and dangerous!&amp;quot; Montand said bitterly. From that day he began to evolve his own political views. They are still evolving. &amp;quot;Every day,&amp;quot; he says, &amp;quot;I reinvent myself. One must take risks—or die.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|group=note}} whether they will continue favouring the ideas that were shown utopian, dehumanizing and eye-strikingly destructive and malignant or whether they will divert to something new. Part of them including [[Whittaker Chambers]], Malcolm Muggeridge and [[Elizabeth Bentley]] gradually turned to Christianity and rediscovered its traditional wisdom. The adherents of Christianity were traditionally perceived as the first target by leftists’ propaganda, they were subject of adamant opposition and routinely considered for being narrow-minded and bigot. But now the Christians’ criticism of communism revealed at the end of the day to be correct. Those liberals who continually kept refusing Christianity started looking for new ways out of their lost illusion. This gave birth to what [[Patrick Buchanan]] calls in US context [[cultural Marxism]] although the most commonly used name is also ''modern'' [[liberalism]]. In European context this modern liberalism is typically extended by attribute [[leftist]] (liberalism). The result of ongoing anthropological revolution is i.a. that former communist politicians from Eastern Europe who built up the [[Iron curtain]] are nowadays in the Western Society and especially in institutions of [[European Union]] and European Parliament dominated by liberal thinking more welcome than Christian politicians who helped to remove communist régimes or than Christian politicians in general. [[Anti-Christian sentiment]] in the western liberal society can be documented by case of Italian professor Rocco Buttiglione in European Parliament whose 2004 candidacy for European Commissioner was fiercely refused by liberal establishment. During candidacy he was first interviewed by liberal members of Parliament in the Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs on his attitude towards [[homosexuality]]. As a Christian he answered in line with his conscience and the teaching of the [[Catholic Church]] that regards homosexual behaviour for [[sin]]. Liberal politicians and liberal media grossly misrepresented his views and made every possible effort to portray him as right-wing extremist. Buttiglione's case is perceived as the turning point when thinking of western civilization traditionally rooted in Christian values that were still practised by postwar Christian politicians of the calibre of German [[Konrad Adenauer]], Italian Alcide De Gasperi, French [[Charles de Gaulle]] and Robert Schuman{{#tag:ref|French Christian Democrat and statesman from whose initiative the European Coal and Steel Community was founded, the predecessor of European Union.|group=note}} displayed the full erosion and rejected its own roots. The sentence &amp;quot;Better communist than Christian&amp;quot; has apparently become the slogan of the day. Christians are becoming more and more unwelcome, this time in western society, likewise as during communists' rule in Soviet block. The only Christianity acceptable for the contemporary liberal society is a kind of Christianity-caricature, the one that is said to be &amp;quot;tolerant&amp;quot;, meaning the one that is willing to betray its own basic values. Some western Christian democratic parties adopted to this requirement however usually lost their electorates. Liberals naturally refrain from voting them because they think these parties are Christian, and Christians refrain from voting them because they know it is not so.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lions&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Characteristics of Anthropological Revolution==&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[Anti-Christian sentiment]].''' The Observatory's Report on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians in the Year 2011 portrays the most important developments with regard to freedom of religion, the most striking cases of intolerance and discrimination throughout Europe – and what individuals and institutions say about it. The report includes several statistics as well as analysis of the meaning of freedom of religion in the European context.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=The Observatory's Report on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians in Europe, Report 2011|publisher=The Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians (NGO)|authorlink=Austria|date=March 19th, 2012|isbn=78-3-9503055-4-8|url=http://www.intoleranceagainstchristians.eu/publications/report-2011.html|acessdate=20122-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Gudrun Kugler, director of the Observatory, explains: ''„Studies suggest that 85% of all hate crimes with an anti-religion background in Europe are directed against Christians. It is high time for the public debate to respond to this reality! We also notice professional restrictions for Christians: a restrictive application of freedom of conscience leads to professions such as magistrates, doctors, nurses and midwives as well as pharmacists slowly closing for Christians. Teachers and parents get into trouble when they disagree with state-defined sexual ethics. Our research shows that only with a more accommodating approach to religion and specifically to Christianity, Europe will live up to its foundational value of freedom.“''   &lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Feminism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Gnostic]] culture'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[ Liberal media]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Liberal Theology]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Moral relativism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Psychological manipulation]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Scientism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Syncretism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Agenda of Anthropological Revolution==&lt;br /&gt;
===Abortion===&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article:''[[Abortion]]  &lt;br /&gt;
===Euthanasia===&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article:'' [[Euthanasia]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Homosexual Agenda===&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article:'' [[Homosexual Agenda]].&lt;br /&gt;
According to Dr Gudrun Kugler, a lawyer in Vienna, Austria, and founder of the Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians, the homosexual agenda is usually promoted via scenario when first some kind of the governmental Committee on so called LGBTI rights is established and then following steps are promulgated:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Výbor pre LGBTI|author=Katarína Danišková |publisher=Human rights and Family policy Institute|language=Slovak|url=http://hfi.sk/blog/katarinadaniskova/121-vybor-pre-lgbti}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Introducing the Act on civil unions of homosexuals&lt;br /&gt;
*The 2nd aim is the possibility for child adoption and access to assisted reproductive services (artificial insemination, foster parenting).&lt;br /&gt;
*Educational Influence of young generation, in UK the adherents of homosexual ideology started to distribute book with fairy-tales about one prince falling in love with other.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |author=Hilary White|title=Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/children-to-be-taught-39heterosexuality-not-the-norm39-in-australian-school&amp;quot;|acessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The draft EU report “on eliminating gender stereotypes in the EU,” tabled by a far-Left Dutch Member of the European Parliament, claimed school curriculum materials should stop depicting men and women in their “traditional roles” of mothers and fathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Ban children’s books depicting traditional families: ‘gender stereotyping’ says EU report|publisher=LifeSiteNews.com|date=November 30, 2012|accessdate=January 07, 2013|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ban-childrens-books-depicting-traditional-families-gender-stereotyping-says&lt;br /&gt;
|quote=The draft report “on eliminating gender stereotypes in the EU,” tabled by a far-Left Dutch MEP, said school curriculum materials should stop depicting men and women in their “traditional roles” of mothers and fathers. The UK’s Daily Mail reported that, were the draft report’s recommendations to be implemented, it would mean banning most traditional English children’s literature, including works which have become literary classics like Paddington Bear, Peter Pan, and Enid Blyton’s Famous Five stories.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Establishing a legislative on „hate speech crimes“ so that everybody who disagrees with homosexual behavior could be legally persecuted.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Swedish Pastor Ake Green Acquitted of Hate Speech against Homosexuals|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn/2005/nov/05112902|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Equality Act Regulations, used as fig leaf for draconian punishment and ruining financially those who would dare to apply Christian values in their occupations (teacher&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Jeanne Smits|title=‘Stunned’ pro-life teacher fired over abortion debate flap: France|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stunned-pro-life-french-teacher-fired-over-abortion-debate-flap|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, marriage officer, psychoterapeutist&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Christian counsellor struck off over ‘gay cure’ case |url=http://www.christiantoday.com/article/christian.counsellor.struck.off.over.gay.cure.case/29914.htm|acessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; etc.), business (bed and breakfast&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Christian B&amp;amp;B Owners Fined for Denying a Room to a Homosexual Couple|url=http://www.intoleranceagainstchristians.eu/case/christian-b-b-owners-fined-for-denying-a-room-to-a-homosexual-couple.html|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Daily Mail Reporter|publisher=Daily Mail|title=Christian B&amp;amp;B owners sued for discrimination after refusing to allow gay couple to share a double bed|date=8 December 2010 |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336523/Hazelmary-Peter-Bull-sued-refusing-allow-gay-couple-share-double-bed.html|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), foster parenting&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Foster child to be taken away because Christian couple refuse to teach him about homosexuality&lt;br /&gt;
|author=JAMES MILLS&lt;br /&gt;
|date=24 October 2007&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=MailOline&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489285/Foster-child-taken-away-Christian-couple-refuse-teach-homosexuality.html#ixzz2AdXH6MXR &lt;br /&gt;
|accessdate=2012-10-28}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or charity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Catholic charity faces closure after losing appeal over gay adoption |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1304333/Catholic-charity-loses-appeal-gay-adoption.html|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (refusal of adoptions for gay people and similar experiments with children&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=The little boy who started a sex change aged eight because he (and his lesbian parents) knew he always wanted to be a girl&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=Mail Online&lt;br /&gt;
|date=30 September 2011&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html#ixzz2EsEp1ej4 &lt;br /&gt;
|acessdate=2012-12-12}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Lesbians give 11 year old son hormone blockers&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://newsdeskinternational.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/lesbians-give-11-year-old-son-hormone-blockers/&lt;br /&gt;
|acessdate=2012-10-28}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Institutions and people bearing the traits of anthropological revolution==  &lt;br /&gt;
The more than half-a-century process of gradual transition from sympathizing with soviet communism and from anti-anticommunism towards modern leftist liberalism can be in the best way demonstrated by stories of the institutions and individuals in the Western Society. The list of illustrative episodes could be amendable almost unlimitedly:       &lt;br /&gt;
*[[ACLU]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Amnesty International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Angela Davis]]&lt;br /&gt;
* European Humanist Federation (EHF)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Frankfurt School]], a school of neo-Marxist social theory.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Antonio Gramsci]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hollywood]]&lt;br /&gt;
*International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA Europe)&lt;br /&gt;
*International Planned Parenthood Federation, (IPPF); [[Planned Parenthood]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaret Sanger]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Soros]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The New York Times]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references group=note/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;References/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
{{Liberalism}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moral degeneration]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[moral relativity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:philosophy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Falsehoods]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Traits]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Anthropological Revolution''' is, according to mathematician and former [[Slovakia|Slovakian]] Minister of the Interior Vladimír Palko, a term that applies to a broad range of phenomena taking place primarily in the contemporary [[liberal]] western society, although in general it is a truly global phenomenon. The term pertains to new liberal political thinking and new [[leftist]] politics with roots that can be traced back at the very minimum to the aftermath of the [[WWII]] and the era of the [[Cold war]]. There can be discerned its link leading to [[Marxism-Leninism]]. This new leftists philosophy and politics is however characterized by lack of the highest guardian for its purity, the task that was previously assumed in the leftist camp of Marxist-Leninist style to be carried out by [[Kremlin]]. There is no hierarchical power structure associated with it either but still its functioning resembles to network. It does not operate by obeying orders hence it does not have any agreed-upon name either. Nevertheless all adherents of it appear to act as if they would know their particular roles well to make smooth way for its agenda. This somewhat fuzzy umbrella philosophy presents revolutionary view on what brings happiness to humans in their intimate domains of family and sexual relationships, introduces new morals for human beings in their boundary moments of entering and departing the world and at bottom line it can be called the philosophy of the anthropological revolution.&lt;br /&gt;
This new philosophy, also based on [[moral relativism]] and policies stemming from it such as double-dealing, [[Machiavellianism]] and [[psychological manipulation]], has taken roots in modern Western Society and ostensibly reaps success in influencing the contemporary thinking. The traditional order and values are represented by [[Christianity]] that is henceforce implicitly assumed to be the main obstacle for modern liberalism and thus becomes the first-line enemy against which anthropological revolution leads undeclared war. Some claim modern liberalism of anthropological revolution is nowadays countered by [[pro-life]] movement similarly to [[Ronald Regan|Regan]]’s anti-communism standing on the other side of barricade against Marxism-Leninism during the [[Cold war]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lions&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
|author=Vladimír Palko&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Levy prichdzajú (Lions are coming)&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=Vydavateľstvo Michala Vaška&lt;br /&gt;
|location=Prešov, Slovakia&lt;br /&gt;
|year=2012&lt;br /&gt;
|language=Slovak&lt;br /&gt;
|isbn=978-80-7165-870-2&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://blog.tyzden.sk/juraj-macko/2012/4/17/levy-prichadzaju-alebo-leninovi-bratranci-v-ruchu-baranka/&lt;br /&gt;
|quote=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   &lt;br /&gt;
    &lt;br /&gt;
==Historical background==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1926 [[Gilbert Keith Chesterton]] predicted in his essay “The Next Heresy” that the next coming [[heresy]] in the world will be the attack on [[morality]], especially sexual morality:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Chesterton and Friends&lt;br /&gt;
|author=&lt;br /&gt;
|date= FEBRUARY 22, 2007&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://chestertonandfriends.blogspot.no/2007/02/heresys-kiss.html&lt;br /&gt;
|accessdate=2012-10-20&lt;br /&gt;
}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
''&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;For the next great heresy is going to be simply an attack on morality; and especially on sexual morality. And it is coming, not from a few Socialists surviving from the [[Fabian Society]], but from the living exultant energy of the rich resolved to enjoy themselves at last, with neither Popery nor [[Puritans|Puritanism]] nor [[Socialism]] to hold them back … The madness of tomorrow is not in Moscow, but much more in Manhattan.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In 1956 Nikita Khrushchev revealed in his address to communist delegates participating in an unofficial meeting of the Twentieth Party Congress that Stalin, who was for thirty years the leader of the Soviet Communist party, soviet state and international communist movement, was the criminal of striking sort. Historians Medvedevs wrote that after the speech, number of people had upset stomach and had to be either braced or even carried out of the meeting hall.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Neznámy Stalin (Unknown Stalin)|author=Žores A. Medvedev and Roj A. Medvedev&lt;br /&gt;
|pages=96&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=Slovart&lt;br /&gt;
|place=Bratislava&lt;br /&gt;
|year=2006&lt;br /&gt;
|isbn= 80-8085-095-X&lt;br /&gt;
|language=Slovak&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://books.google.com/books?id=UyRXGQAACAAJ&amp;amp;dq=80-8085-095-X&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=9uaAF-nX-y&amp;amp;sig=QN63JbOfu_6IzTLvw9k2earJeQU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=DdaCUKLULe-Y1AXe0oDIAw&amp;amp;redir_esc=y}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although the “secret speech” was meant to remain confidential, the information gradually leaked to outsiders, reached the western world and confirmed what many already had anticipated.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Lectures on Twentieth Century Europe: Khrushchev’s Secret Speech, 1956|author= Steven Kreis |publisher= The History Guide|year=2000-2004 |accessdate=2012-10-20|url= http://www.historyguide.org/europe/khrush_speech.html }}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The disillusioned western leftist intellectuals found themselves to face the dilemma{{#tag:ref|Superstar of French culture, actor and chansonnier Yves Montand humbly concluded after soviet tanks rolled over the Hungarian Revolution and when Khrushchev spouted barefaced lies about what happened there: &amp;quot;We have been stupid, stupid and dangerous!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|author= Brad Darrach&lt;br /&gt;
|title= Yves Montand: Amid Memories of Old Wars and Lost Loves, the Most Seductive of Frenchmen Looks Ahead to New Conquests&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher= Time Inc. &lt;br /&gt;
|date=1988-May-16&lt;br /&gt;
|volume=29&lt;br /&gt;
|issue=19&lt;br /&gt;
|url= http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20098963,00.html&lt;br /&gt;
|accessdate=2012-10-20&lt;br /&gt;
|quote= Until he was 35, Montand was a Stalinist, though he never actually joined the Party. But in 1956, when Russian tanks rolled over the Hungarian Revolution, he smelled a very large rat. Later that year he smelled another when he and Simone had a heated three-hour clash with Khrushchev, who spouted barefaced lies about what happened in Budapest. &amp;quot;We have been stupid, stupid and dangerous!&amp;quot; Montand said bitterly. From that day he began to evolve his own political views. They are still evolving. &amp;quot;Every day,&amp;quot; he says, &amp;quot;I reinvent myself. One must take risks—or die.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;|group=note}} whether they will continue favouring the ideas that were shown utopian, dehumanizing and eye-strikingly destructive and malignant or whether they will divert to something new. Part of them including [[Whittaker Chambers]], Malcolm Muggeridge and [[Elizabeth Bentley]] gradually turned to Christianity and rediscovered its traditional wisdom. The adherents of Christianity were traditionally perceived as the first target by leftists’ propaganda, they were subject of adamant opposition and routinely considered for being narrow-minded and bigot. But now the Christians’ criticism of communism revealed at the end of the day to be correct. Those liberals who continually kept refusing Christianity started looking for new ways out of their lost illusion. This gave birth to what [[Patrick Buchanan]] calls in US context [[cultural Marxism]] although the most commonly used name is also ''modern'' [[liberalism]]. In European context this modern liberalism is typically extended by attribute [[leftist]] (liberalism). The result of ongoing anthropological revolution is i.a. that former communist politicians from Eastern Europe who built up the [[Iron curtain]] are nowadays in the Western Society and especially in institutions of [[European Union]] and European Parliament dominated by liberal thinking more welcome than Christian politicians who helped to remove communist régimes or than Christian politicians in general. [[Anti-Christian sentiment]] in the western liberal society can be documented by case of Italian professor Rocco Buttiglione in European Parliament whose 2004 candidacy for European Commissioner was fiercely refused by liberal establishment. During candidacy he was first interviewed by liberal members of Parliament in the Committee on Civil Liberties, Justice and Home Affairs on his attitude towards [[homosexuality]]. As a Christian he answered in line with his conscience and the teaching of the [[Catholic Church]] that regards homosexual behaviour for [[sin]]. Liberal politicians and liberal media grossly misrepresented his views and made every possible effort to portray him as right-wing extremist. Buttiglione's case is perceived as the turning point when thinking of western civilization traditionally rooted in Christian values that were still practised by postwar Christian politicians of the calibre of German [[Konrad Adenauer]], Italian Alcide De Gasperi, French [[Charles de Gaulle]] and Robert Schuman{{#tag:ref|French Christian Democrat and statesman from whose initiative the European Coal and Steel Community was founded, the predecessor of European Union.|group=note}} displayed the full erosion and rejected its own roots. The sentence &amp;quot;Better communist than Christian&amp;quot; has apparently become the slogan of the day. Christians are becoming more and more unwelcome, this time in western society, likewise as during communists' rule in Soviet block. The only Christianity acceptable for the contemporary liberal society is a kind of Christianity-caricature, the one that is said to be &amp;quot;tolerant&amp;quot;, meaning the one that is willing to betray its own basic values. Some western Christian democratic parties adopted to this requirement however usually lost their electorates. Liberals naturally refrain from voting them because they think these parties are Christian, and Christians refrain from voting them because they know it is not so.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lions&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Characteristics of Anthropological Revolution==&lt;br /&gt;
* '''[[Anti-Christian sentiment]].''' The Observatory's Report on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians in the Year 2011 portrays the most important developments with regard to freedom of religion, the most striking cases of intolerance and discrimination throughout Europe – and what individuals and institutions say about it. The report includes several statistics as well as analysis of the meaning of freedom of religion in the European context.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=The Observatory's Report on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians in Europe, Report 2011|publisher=The Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians (NGO)|authorlink=Austria|date=March 19th, 2012|isbn=78-3-9503055-4-8|url=http://www.intoleranceagainstchristians.eu/publications/report-2011.html|acessdate=20122-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Gudrun Kugler, director of the Observatory, explains: ''„Studies suggest that 85% of all hate crimes with an anti-religion background in Europe are directed against Christians. It is high time for the public debate to respond to this reality! We also notice professional restrictions for Christians: a restrictive application of freedom of conscience leads to professions such as magistrates, doctors, nurses and midwives as well as pharmacists slowly closing for Christians. Teachers and parents get into trouble when they disagree with state-defined sexual ethics. Our research shows that only with a more accommodating approach to religion and specifically to Christianity, Europe will live up to its foundational value of freedom.“''   &lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Feminism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Gnostic]] culture'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[ Liberal media]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Liberal Theology]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Moral relativism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Psychological manipulation]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Scientism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
*'''[[Syncretism]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Agenda of Anthropological Revolution==&lt;br /&gt;
===Abortion===&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article:''[[Abortion]]  &lt;br /&gt;
===Euthanasia===&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article:'' [[Euthanasia]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Homosexual Agenda===&lt;br /&gt;
''Main article:'' [[Homosexual Agenda]].&lt;br /&gt;
According to Dr Gudrun Kugler, a lawyer in Vienna, Austria, and founder of the Observatory on Intolerance and Discrimination against Christians, the homosexual agenda is usually promoted via scenario when first some kind of the governmental Committee on so called LGBTI rights is established and then following steps are promulgated:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Výbor pre LGBTI|author=Katarína Danišková |publisher=Human rights and Family policy Institute|language=Slovak|url=http://hfi.sk/blog/katarinadaniskova/121-vybor-pre-lgbti}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Introducing the Act on civil unions of homosexuals&lt;br /&gt;
*The 2nd aim is the possibility for child adoption and access to assisted reproductive services (artificial insemination, foster parenting).&lt;br /&gt;
*Educational Influence of young generation, in UK the adherents of homosexual ideology started to distribute book with fairy-tales about one prince falling in love with other.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |author=Hilary White|title=Children to be taught 'heterosexuality not the norm' in Australian schools project|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/children-to-be-taught-39heterosexuality-not-the-norm39-in-australian-school&amp;quot;|acessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The draft EU report “on eliminating gender stereotypes in the EU,” tabled by a far-Left Dutch Member of the European Parliament, claimed school curriculum materials should stop depicting men and women in their “traditional roles” of mothers and fathers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Ban children’s books depicting traditional families: ‘gender stereotyping’ says EU report|publisher=LifeSiteNews.com|date=November 30, 2012|accessdate=January 07, 2013|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ban-childrens-books-depicting-traditional-families-gender-stereotyping-says&lt;br /&gt;
|quote=The draft report “on eliminating gender stereotypes in the EU,” tabled by a far-Left Dutch MEP, said school curriculum materials should stop depicting men and women in their “traditional roles” of mothers and fathers. The UK’s Daily Mail reported that, were the draft report’s recommendations to be implemented, it would mean banning most traditional English children’s literature, including works which have become literary classics like Paddington Bear, Peter Pan, and Enid Blyton’s Famous Five stories.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
*Establishing a legislative on „hate speech crimes“ so that everybody who disagrees with homosexual behavior could be legally persecuted.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Swedish Pastor Ake Green Acquitted of Hate Speech against Homosexuals|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn/2005/nov/05112902|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The Equality Act Regulations, used as fig leaf for draconian punishment and ruining financially those who would dare to apply Christian values in their occupations (teacher&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Jeanne Smits|title=‘Stunned’ pro-life teacher fired over abortion debate flap: France|url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stunned-pro-life-french-teacher-fired-over-abortion-debate-flap|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, marriage officer, psychoterapeutist&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Christian counsellor struck off over ‘gay cure’ case |url=http://www.christiantoday.com/article/christian.counsellor.struck.off.over.gay.cure.case/29914.htm|acessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; etc.), business (bed and breakfast&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Christian B&amp;amp;B Owners Fined for Denying a Room to a Homosexual Couple|url=http://www.intoleranceagainstchristians.eu/case/christian-b-b-owners-fined-for-denying-a-room-to-a-homosexual-couple.html|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Daily Mail Reporter|publisher=Daily Mail|title=Christian B&amp;amp;B owners sued for discrimination after refusing to allow gay couple to share a double bed|date=8 December 2010 |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336523/Hazelmary-Peter-Bull-sued-refusing-allow-gay-couple-share-double-bed.html|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), foster parenting&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Foster child to be taken away because Christian couple refuse to teach him about homosexuality&lt;br /&gt;
|author=JAMES MILLS&lt;br /&gt;
|date=24 October 2007&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=MailOline&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-489285/Foster-child-taken-away-Christian-couple-refuse-teach-homosexuality.html#ixzz2AdXH6MXR &lt;br /&gt;
|accessdate=2012-10-28}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or charity&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=Catholic charity faces closure after losing appeal over gay adoption |url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1304333/Catholic-charity-loses-appeal-gay-adoption.html|accessdate=2012-10-26}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (refusal of adoptions for gay people and similar experiments with children&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=The little boy who started a sex change aged eight because he (and his lesbian parents) knew he always wanted to be a girl&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=Mail Online&lt;br /&gt;
|date=30 September 2011&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html#ixzz2EsEp1ej4 &lt;br /&gt;
|acessdate=2012-12-12}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Lesbians give 11 year old son hormone blockers&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://newsdeskinternational.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/lesbians-give-11-year-old-son-hormone-blockers/&lt;br /&gt;
|acessdate=2012-10-28}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Institutions and people bearing the traits of anthropological revolution==  &lt;br /&gt;
The more than half-a-century process of gradual transition from sympathizing with soviet communism and from anti-anticommunism towards modern leftist liberalism can be in the best way demonstrated by stories of the institutions and individuals in the Western Society. The list of illustrative episodes could be amendable almost unlimitedly:       &lt;br /&gt;
*[[ACLU]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Amnesty International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Angela Davis]]&lt;br /&gt;
* European Humanist Federation (EHF)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Frankfurt School]], a school of neo-Marxist social theory.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Antonio Gramsci]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hollywood]]&lt;br /&gt;
*International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA Europe)&lt;br /&gt;
*International Planned Parenthood Federation, (IPPF); [[Planned Parenthood]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaret Sanger]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Soros]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The New York Times]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Wikipedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references group=note/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;References/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
{{Liberalism}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Moral degeneration]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[moral relativity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:philosophy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Falsehoods]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Traits]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Essay:Politicians Who Had a Real Career</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* Careers outside of government that need further discussion */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Significant politicians with a real former career==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is a list of significant politicians who had a real career (outside of politics):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michele Bachmann]] - [[homeschooled]] her 5 children and also helped raise 23 foster children.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bachmann has also worked as a tax attorney for the IRS [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303812104576437830202611222.html?mod=rss_Politics_And_Policy] and runs small business with her husband Marcus [http://bachmann.house.gov/Biography].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Bunning]] - Hall of Fame Major League Baseball pitcher and visionary who stood against government spending&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Neville Chamberlain]] - Prime Minister of the UK, formerly accountant and businessman (metal trade). Major positive influence on UK domestic policy, especially strengthening economy, but lacked experience in foreign policy at a crucial time.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] - military general, who was the leader of Allied European forces in the Second World War and Supreme Commander of Nato.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Benjamin Franklin]] - printer, author, postmaster, inventor, and [[Founding Father]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barry Goldwater]] - manager of family department store and an air force general before winning a stunning upset victory for the Republican nomination for president in 1964, moving the entire Party to the right.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Denis Healey]] - Long-serving UK Chancellor who laid the foundations of British prosperity in the 1980s and 1990s by introducing monetarism; formerly a soldier (he was [[beachmaster]] at [[Anzio]]).&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mohammed Ali Jinnah]] - Had a successful practice as a barrister, first at Lincoln's Inn in London then at the Bombay High Court, for 31 years; recognised as one of the finest Indian lawyers of his time&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.quaid.gov.pk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Elected to the Legislative Assembly; acknowledged throughout South Asia as one of the three main leaders of the Indian independence movement, with Gandhi and Nehru; and founder of Pakistan where he is known as Father of the Nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/historic_figures/jinnah_mohammad_ali.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mustafa Kemal Atatürk]] - Decorated army officer and political writer. First president of the Republic of [[Turkey]] and founder of the modern democratic Turkish state.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jack Kemp]] - star professional football player (quarterback) and architect of the Kemp-Roth tax cuts in the 1980s&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Harold Macmillan]] - Prime Minister of the UK, previously a soldier and publisher. Ended the British Empire in Africa and strengthened the UK's nuclear defences.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Major]] - Prime Minister of the UK, bank executive. Major contribution to peace in Northern Ireland and took UK out of disastrous European Exchange Rate Mechanism.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rand Paul]] - physician (ophthalmologist) and now a major influence in the [[U.S. Senate]] for cutting spending&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Paul]] - physician (obstetrician), perhaps the single most influential presidential candidate in the past decade&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ronald Reagan]] - actor, president of the [[Screen Actors Guild]], and spokesman for [[General Electric]]; architect of the defeat of [[communism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lech Walesa]] - President of Poland 1990-95, Electrician and [[Labor union|Trade Union]] activist who became President of [[Poland]]. Solidarity strikes in 1980 led eventually to collapse of Warsaw Pact and end of communism in eastern Europe.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George Washington]] - successful military general, land surveyor, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.landsurveyor.us/learn_washington.htm George Washington as a Land Surveyor]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and real estate investor&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arthur Wellesley, 1st Duke of Wellington]] - General who defeated [[Napoleon]]. Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and leading conservative politician of second quarter of 19th century. Legislated for emancipation of Roman Catholics in Britain and Ireland.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== No clear influence in politics ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[William Beveridge]] - Charity worker who was introduced to government by [[Winston Churchill]] and introduced the [[Welfare State]] to the [[United Kingdom]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Bloomberg]] - two term Mayor of New York, controls the market for stock quote machines used primarily in Wall Street institutions&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bill Bradley]] - Hall of Fame NBA Basketball player who opposed Reagan's first set of tax cuts&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Bill_Bradley_Tax_Reform.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but sponsored of the Tax Reform Act of 1986, the second of the major Reagan tax cuts.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jim Bunning]] - Hall of Fame Major League Baseball pitcher and visionary who stood against government spending&lt;br /&gt;
*[[George W. Bush]] - 43rd President of the US, oil businessman, co-owner and managing general partner of the [[Texas Rangers]].  Cut taxes and placed two strong [[conservatives]] on the [[U.S. Supreme Court]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Maria Cantwell]] - software company executive (Real Networks, who make RealPlayer)&lt;br /&gt;
*Jimmie Davis - accomplished singer (&amp;quot;You Are My Sunshine&amp;quot;) who served two non-consecutive terms as governor of [[Louisiana]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephane Dion]] Professor of Political Science at Université de Moncton and Université de Montreal.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Clint Eastwood]] - actor, film director&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mike Enzi]] - accountant&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bill Foster]] - physicist at the government-subsidized Fermilab&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Al Franken]] - US Senator for the State of Minnesota, formerly a comedian (''Saturday Night Live'')&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Glenn]] - former US Senator for Ohio, chief author 1978 Nonproliferation Act, Chairman of Committee on Governmental Affairs 1987-1995, Marine Corps pilot, NASA astronaut &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Harper]] - Economist, head of National Citizens Coalition (Canada's main conservative think tank)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Herbert Hoover]] - 31st President of the USA, former geologist, mining engineer&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rush Holt]] - assistant director of the government-subsidized Princeton Plasma Physics Laboratory&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Chris Huhne]] - journalist, including roles as business editor of The ''Independent'' and The ''Independent on Sunday''&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Ignatieff]] Professor at the Kennedy School of Government, author, television host.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Glenda Jackson]] - Member of UK Parliament since 1992, double [[Oscar]]-winning actress who helped force out [[Tony Blair]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Johnson]] - was CEO of PACUS, a plastics Mfg, before becoming [[U.S. Senator]] for [[Wisconsin]]; rejected [[Obama]] judicial nominees for his area soon after taking office&lt;br /&gt;
*John Key - before becoming New Zealander Prime Minister, Key was a succesful businessman and broker for Merril Lynch.&lt;br /&gt;
*Steve Largent - National football star for the [[Seattle Seahawks]]&lt;br /&gt;
*René Lévesque  - Journalist.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Brian Mulroney]] Prime Minister of Canada, Truck driver, lawyer, head of Iron Ore Corporation.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barack Obama]], one of 43 presidents of the United States; perhaps the least influential in a century. (See also below)&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jacques Parizeau]] Economist.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Condoleeza Rice]] - 66th US Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, professor and Provost at [[Stanford University]], served on the boards of several large corporations, senior fellow at the Institute of International Studies. Major influence on US foreign policy under George Bush Jr.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alex Salmond]] - First Minister of Scotland, economist and banker&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Arnold Schwarzenegger]] - Governor of California, professional bodybuilder based on steroid use, actor&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rick Scott]] - former CEO of a major hospital network, now the innovative Governor of [[Florida]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Heath Shuler]] - former businessman and former National Football League quarterback&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rick Snyder]] - President and COO of Gateway during the 1990s, later elected Governor of Michigan in 2010&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pat Toomey]] - worked for ChemicalBank, opened Rookie's Restaurant &amp;amp; the  former president for The Club for Growth; now a Senator for Pennsylvania.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Pierre Trudeau]], Prime Minister of Canada, lawyer, professor at Université de Montréal. Repatriated Canada's constitution.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mitt Romney]] - former Governor of Massachussets, GOP Presidential candidate in 2008, frontrunner in 2012 GOP Presidential nominees, CEO of Bain &amp;amp; Company, an investment company&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scott Walker]] - worked for IBM and the American Red Cross before politics; now conservative Governor of [[Wisconsin]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Careers outside of government that need further discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jimmy Carter]] - 39th President of the US, naval officer, peanut farmer ... or was it mostly administrative work and local government positions?&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dick Cheney]] - most of his life was government but he had a Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer position at Halliburton prior to VP.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Winston Churchill]] - cavalry officer for 6 years; then a leading politician for 55 years, becoming Prime Minister of the [[United Kingdom]] and a renowned wartime leader while also being an accomplished historian&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Calvin Coolidge]] - law practice and state politics&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Reinhard Heydrich]] -  previously a naval officer, arguably the very worst of the senior Nazis.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vladimir Ilyich Lenin]] - first dictator of the Soviet Union: came from a minor affluent Russian family and became a lawyer specializing in labor rights, though he never saw a case.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Jay]]-lawyer&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barack Obama]] -  President of the US, claimed to organize church community groups, while not attending church himself; was a non-tenure-track part-time instructor in law at the [[University of Chicago]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rick Santorum]] - former US Senator of Pennsylvania, Chairman of Senate Republican Conference, GOP Presidential primary candidate 2012, attorney&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Margaret Thatcher]] - food chemist then barrister specialising in taxation; the &amp;quot;Iron Lady&amp;quot; who pioneered privatisation, ended trade union control of the British economy and worked with Reagan to end the menace of communism&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Others ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vladimir Putin]] - former KGB operative who rose to be President of Russia, and then Prime Minister&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Michael Heseltine]] - UK Deputy Prime Minister, publisher&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stanley Baldwin]] - Prime Minister, businessman (metal trade), industrialist.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Essays]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Chuck Hagel</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Officeholder&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Chuck Hagel&lt;br /&gt;
|image=Ghdur76.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|party=[[Republican]]&lt;br /&gt;
|spouse=Lilibet Hagel&lt;br /&gt;
|religion=Episcopalian&lt;br /&gt;
|offices=&lt;br /&gt;
	{{Officeholder/senator&lt;br /&gt;
	|state=Nebraska&lt;br /&gt;
	|terms=January 7, 1997 – January 3, 2009&lt;br /&gt;
	|preceded=[[J. James Exon]]&lt;br /&gt;
	|former=n&lt;br /&gt;
	|succeeded=[[Mike Johanns]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Charles Timothy &amp;quot;Chuck&amp;quot; Hagel''', born October 4, 1946 (age {{age|1946|10|4}}), was the senior [[United States Senator]] from [[Nebraska]]. A member of the [[Republican Party]], he was first elected in 1996 and was reelected in 2002. In September 2007, Hagel announced he would retire at the end of his term in early 2009 and said he would not seek a rumored bid for the [[White House]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/09/08/politics/main3244230.shtml CBS News, September 8, 2007, &amp;quot;Sources: Hagel Won't Seek Re-Election&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/08/us/politics/08cnd-hagel.html New York Times, September 8, 2007, &amp;quot;Hagel to Retire at End of Term, Aides Say&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/reF&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Hagel is a [[Vietnam War]] veteran, having served in the U.S. Army infantry, attaining the rank of Sergeant (E-5) from 1967-1968. Hagel served along with his brother Tom Hagel as an infantry squad leader with the [[U.S. Army]]'s 9th Infantry Division. While serving in [[Vietnam]], he received the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, Purple Heart, Army Commendation Medal, and the Combat Infantryman Badge. After returning from Vietnam, Hagel worked as a bartender and radio newscaster while finishing college.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hagel is [[Barack Hussein Obama]]'s likely pick for [[Secretary of Defense]]. Because of Hagel's pro-[[Muslim]] sensibilities, this is another clue revealing [[Obama's Religion]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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==Political views==&lt;br /&gt;
Chuck Hagel is known for being a [[liberal]] [[Republican]]. In December 2005, Hagel made a much-publicized statement: &amp;quot;I took an oath of office to the Constitution, I didn't take an oath of office to my party or my president.&amp;quot; According to a SurveyUSA poll, Hagel has a 10% higher approval rating among Nebraska Democrats than Republicans. Together with [[Democratic Party|Democrats]] Joseph Biden and Carl Levin he proposed a non-binding resolution to the Democratic-controlled Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which rejected President Bush's policy as &amp;quot;not in the national interest&amp;quot; in a 12-9 vote. On domestic issues Hagel is known to have a more [[conservative]] record. He votes pro-life, supports [[2nd amendment]] rights and has a &amp;quot;Taxpayer's Friend&amp;quot; voting record. On [[Illegal Immigration]] he is more [[liberal]] and supports an amnesty guest worker program and even voted to allow illegal aliens to participate in Social Security. He is also more liberal on national security issues, which gave him the media's stamp of approval because he would always vocally attack his party and his president. Another issue he is liberal on is his advocacy of earmarks.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Possible 2008 presidential candidacy== &lt;br /&gt;
Hagel had been mentioned as a possible candidate for the 2008 presidential election. Hagel has talked about entering the possibility of an independent run with New York City Mayor [[Michael Bloomberg]]. &amp;quot;It's a great country to think about -- a New York boy and a Nebraska boy to be teamed up leading this nation,&amp;quot; Hagel said on CBS's Face the Nation.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Electoral History== &lt;br /&gt;
'''2002 Nebraska United States Senatorial Election'''&lt;br /&gt;
*Chuck Hagel (R) (inc.),83%&lt;br /&gt;
*Charlie A. Matulka (D), 15%&lt;br /&gt;
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'''1996 Nebraska United States Senatorial Election'''&lt;br /&gt;
*Chuck Hagel (R), 56%&lt;br /&gt;
*Ben Nelson (D), 42%&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://hagel.senate.gov/ Official Senate website],&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://projects.washingtonpost.com/congress/members/h001028/ Voting record]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Chuck_Hagel.htm Hagel On the Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|right|thumb|'''Then-Senator Obama wearing traditional African garb''', a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''[[Barack Hussein Obama]]''' has been President of the United States since January 2009. Public opinion polls show that one in five or 17% of Americans recognize that Obama is a [[Muslim]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and-Elections/Little-Voter-Discomfort-with-Romney%E2%80%99s-Mormon-Religion.aspx|title=Little Voter Discomfort with Romney’s Mormon Religion|date=July 26, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013|work=Pew Research Center|quote= Currently, 17% of registered voters say that Obama is Muslim}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41248.html August 2010 Pew Research poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Here is overwhelming evidence demonstrating that Obama is a Muslim:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama's selection of [[Chuck Hagel]], a former Republican senator most sympathetic to Muslim positions in the Middle East, to be Secretary of Defense despite intense objections by both political parties.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife [[Michelle Obama|Michelle]] does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until [[France]], but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama seems to emotionally hold a Muslim view about Israel, in contrast with Americans who have been educated as Obama has.  Obama has never visited Israel as president despite repeated criticisms of his failure to do so, he waited many days before even mentioning the rocket attacks on Israel in late 2012, and he doesn't appear comfortable even discussing issues related to Israel. &lt;br /&gt;
*In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to [[Jesus]] as &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Son of God rather than as &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; Son of God: &amp;quot;And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as '''''a'' Son of God''', but as a human being.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-jesus-son-god&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LA ''Times''. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Although Obama attended a [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as some do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;[[Saint Paul|Paul]]&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama also used his middle name when sworn in as President.  However, even if he were actually a [[Muslim]], he would ''not'' necessarily have to change his name according to Muslim tradition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;.http://zawaj.com/articles/do-muslim-converts-have-to-change-their-names.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has said &amp;quot;[[John McCain]] has not talked about [[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in an interview with [[George Stephanopoulos]] discussing whether John McCain's campaign has suggested that Obama is not a Christian. George Stephanopoulos -- who had previously been a high-ranking Democrat in the [[Clinton Administration]] -- then suggested that Obama change his answer to refer instead to &amp;quot;Christian faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/?page=all Christina Bellantoni, &amp;quot;Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics&amp;quot;, ''Washington Times'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: [[Allah]] is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the ''Autobiography of [[Malcolm X]]'', which was co-written by [[Alex Haley]], inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which was a general discussion of US foreign policy that was on the non-fiction best-seller lists for weeks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although Zakaria had Muslim ancestors, he is a non-Muslim educated at Yale with a Ph.D. from Harvard.&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] allows adherents to deny they are Muslim if it would be dangerous not to.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;[[Pakistan]]&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama favors [[Pakistan]], a Muslim nation, in its conflicts with [[India]], a mostly [[Hindu]] nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Indian press has been highly critical of Obama about this. [http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/obama-india-relations-indispensible-pushes-placement-un]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, the Obama Administration's relationship with Pakistan could be driven by its critical role in the battle against [[al-Qaeda]] in [[Afghanistan]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in [[Chicago]] prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 [[Million Man March]] led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one [[mosque]]&amp;quot; in [[Kenya]] while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;[[Renegade]]&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', which originally meant &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Hussein Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Liberal sources claim that this is due to security concerns.  However, in general, Presidents rarely attend weekly church services while in office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blackberry-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272#.T5jUxp8rpfV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet, the Obama family has attended Christian church serves at various times since becoming President in 2009.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/16/obamas-church-service-dc_n_1209002.html|title=Where The Obama Family Has Worshiped In D.C.|work=Huffington Post|date=January 16, 2012|accessdate=January 6, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, Justice [[John Roberts]] failed to administer the [[oath of office]] correctly while Obama placed his hand on a Bible.  To avoid any claims that Obama was not the real President because of mis-stating the oath, Roberts dropped by the White House to re-administering the oath the next day, but no bible was used for that private re-do of the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the [[G-20]] summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to [[Saudi Arabia|Saudi]] King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{dead link}}&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of [[Las Vegas]] for unknown reasons, and Obama has also criticized state lotteries despite being heavily favored by most [[Democrats]]. The reason may be that [[gambling]] is forbidden in the [[Koran]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and frowned upon by many Protestant denominations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CE0QFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efa2009.org%2Fpapers%2FSSRN-id1335855.pdf&amp;amp;ei=h7kUUPHTA8aBqgHysIHYCw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG1qfZFDgF1FpHG46FFDbMGzBu0Iw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2006, Obama gave an irreverent speech about using the Bible in public policy. It resembled a stand-up comedy act, with Obama making fun of the books of the [[Torah]], the [[Ten Commandments]], the [[Sermon on the Mount]] and other key Biblical passages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2010, while Obama was president, the Missile Defense Agency changed its logo, incorporating a crescent and star.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://loganswarning.com/2010/02/23/us-missile-defense-agency-changes-logo-to-obamaislamic-crescent-hybrid/ US Missile Defense Agency Changes Logo to Obama~Islamic Crescent Hybrid!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo closely resembles that of the [[Iran]]ian Space Agency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prlog.org/10550380-missile-defense-agency-logo-new-twist-to-the-tale.html Missile Defense Agency Logo – A new twist to the tale]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo was designed in 2007, prior to Obama's election as president.&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2012, Obama participated in a $40,000 per plate fundraiser on [[Holy Thursday]], which many devout Christians would find to be inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*On September 25, 2012, in his address to [[United Nations General Assembly]], Obama said that &amp;quot;'''The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/ Transcript: Obama address to U.N. General Assembly] (September 25, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This outrageous comment was predictably ignored by the [[lamestream media]], but rightly highlighted by Conservative commentators.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/ Media ignore Obama attack on ‘those who slander the Prophet of Islam’] (September 26, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's spiritual mentor of 20 years, Rev. [[Jeremiah Wright]] explained in an interview &amp;quot;that Barack Obama was steeped in Islam when he first met him,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thenewamerican.com/component/k2/item/12165-obama-called-our-most-toxic-president?Itemid=667 Obama Called Our Most &amp;quot;Toxic&amp;quot; President, New American, July 20th 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and said he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having renounce his Islamic background. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/jeremiah-wright-i-made-it-comfortable-for-obama-to-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-islam/ Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report), The Gateway Pundit, may 10, 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obamacare]] has a provision enabling groups that have a religious objection to the individual mandate and who have forfeited the benefits of Social Security (such as the Amish) to claim a religious conscience opt-out of the individual mandate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5000A 26 U.S.C. 5000A (d)(2)(A)]; [http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/1402 26 U.S.C. 1402(g)(1)]; [https://secure.ssa.gov/poms.nsf/lnx/0110225035 &amp;quot;RM 10225.035 SSNs for the Amish and Mennonites (and Other Religious Exempt Communities)&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Muslims would not be eligible for a religious exemption from the individual mandate,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/2010/04/137221/ Does your faith free you from forced Obamacare?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although other online commentators speculate that Muslims would be eligible for a religious exemption.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/2011/eric-burns/muslims-exempt-from-obamacare/ Muslims Exempt from ObamaCare? FrontPage Magazine, Oct. 14, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama further impedes the Christian faith on gay rights, telling military chaplains a conscience clause that would allow military chaplains to opt-out of performing gay marriages is “unnecessary and ill-advised.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/obama-calls-conscience-clause-for-military-chaplains-ill-advised.html Obama calls Conscience Clause for Military Chaplains “Ill-Advised”, Fox News, January 3, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, Islam does not approve of same-sex marriages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_151_200/same_sex_marriage_and_marriage_i.htm|title=SAME SEX MARRIAGE and MARRIAGE IN ISLAM|publisher=Islamic Research Foundation International, Inc.|accessdate=January 6, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya]]n [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (This obviously does not completely rule out the possibility that his father was a member of that 1%, because his father was in the small minority that left Kenya to be educated in the US.) There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in [[Massachusetts]] from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama toured a mosque in [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Muslim agenda of the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mystery:Why_Do_Some_Oppose_the_Likelihood_that_Obama_Is_Muslim%3F]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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|spouse=[[Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama]]; may have had a prior marriage.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/was-barack-obama-married-in-college/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (b. August 4, 1961, either in [[Kenya]] or [[Honolulu, Hawaii]]) was elected the 44th President.  Promoted heavily by [[liberals]], as demonstrated by his unjustified receipt of the 2009 [[Nobel Prize|Nobel Peace Prize]], Obama won the presidency despite a short and unremarkable political career by outspending his opponent, [[John McCain]], by hundreds of millions of dollars in 2008. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[liberal claptrap]] that helped elect Obama as president seems silly today.  It was claimed, for example, that Obama has millions of followers on Twitter, when allegedly some 70% of them are fake.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/obama-has-millions-of-fake-twitter-followers/1#.UDfQVqA2et_&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  And although the [[lamestream media]] promoted Obama as a great orator, in fact he relies almost entirely on teleprompters for his speeches and press conferences, and at one point even had teleprompters set up for him in a middle school classroom in order to speak to the media.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. During the 2008 election campaign Obama said that he intended to &amp;quot;[[Redistribution of wealth|spread the wealth around]]&amp;quot; - which conservatives have condemned for being [[Socialism|socialist]]. Barack Obama has been widely criticized by the American [[business]] community and others for his anti-business policies that are destroying American jobs during a period of high unemployment.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zuckerman, M.B. (2010, July 16). [http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2010/07/16/obamas-anti-business-policies-are-our-economic-katrina Obama's Anti-business Policies are our Economic Katrina]. ''U.S. News''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Barnes, F. (2009, July 22). [http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/619dvjlm.asp An Anti-Business President]. ''The Weekly Standard''. Vol. 14, No. 38&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Shedlock, M. (2010, August 20). [http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/08/small-businesses-are-not-hiring-why.html Small Businesses are not hiring. Why should they?] Globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wright, C.E. (2012, February 12). [http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/dear_mr_president_why_we_are_n.html Dear Mr. President: Why we are not hiring]. ''American Thinker''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On July 26, 2012, the [[Gallup Poll|Gallup organization]] reported that merely 35% of business owners approved of Barack Obama's job performance.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gallup.com/poll/156206/Business-Owners-Among-Least-Approving-Obama.aspx U.S. Business Owners Now Among Least Approving of Obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Former [[Democrat]] Presidential candidate [[Joe Lieberman]] endorsed Obama's opponent in 2008 and has declined to endorse [[Obama]] for the [[Presidential Election 2012]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lillis, M. (2012, April 22). [http://thehill.com/video/campaign/222929-lieberman-declines-to-endorse-in-presidential-race Sen. Lieberman declines to endorse in presidential race]. ''The Hill''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Under President Obama's mismanagement of the economy, the United States Government's credit rating was, for the first time in its history, downgraded from AAA to AA+, and [[poverty]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/incpovhlth/2009/pov09fig04.pdf Figure 4: Number in Poverty and Poverty Rate: 1959-2009]. ''U.S. Census Bureau''. Current Population Survey, 1960 to 2010 Annual Social and Economic Supplements.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; increased markedly. By and large his programs, said to combat the recession, unemployment, slow growth, and deficits, have failed&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date. While 68% also believe a jobs bill, such as the one recently enacted into law, will have no impact on payrolls, 30% do believe it will boost payrolls moderately&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[http://www.nabe.com/press/ind1004.pdf Industry Survey], ''National Association for Business Economics'', April 2010, p. 2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; leaving the the country saddled with a $16 trillion [[national debt]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Under Obama the U.S. National Debt has tripled. Source: [https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?graph_id=86836 U.S. Treasury]; Federal Reserve Board.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of his most well known tactics is blaming someone else, such as George W. Bush, for all his failures instead of taking responsibility. Also on the domestic front, Obama passed an expensive [[health care]] bill in 2009 with no [[bipartisan]] support and 34 Democrats dissenting. Recently, the [[Congressional Budget Office]] wrote an open letter to [[John Boehner]], the Speaker of the House, outlining the effects of repealing [[Obamacare]] and explaining why net loss of over 100 billion dollars would occur from the repeal. [http://cbo.gov/publication/43471]&lt;br /&gt;
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Fatalities in [[Afghanistan]] have more than doubled under Obama's leadership compared with the preceding eight years combined, according to the Congressional Research Service &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chesser, S.G. (2012, July 12). [http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R41084.pdf Afghanistan Casualties: Military Forces and Civilians - CRS Report for Congress]. Pg. 3. ''Congressional Research Service''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Against his own Defense Secretary's advice, Obama [[Libyan uprising 2011|attacked Libya]] - a possible violation of the [[War Powers Act]]. After he announced the killing of [[September 11th]] mastermind and terrorist [[Osama bin Laden]], the [[U.S. State Department]] warned of the increased risk to the lives and safety of Americans around the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''KABC-TV/DT'' (2011, July 27). [http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/national_world&amp;amp;id=8273909 Risk of anti-US violence up after Osama bin Laden's death]. On ''ABC7 News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bin Laden's death had negligible long-term impact on Obama's approval ratings, as seen in Gallup's daily poll.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Gallup''. [http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's bizarre gaffes are frequent and embarrassing, but typically unreported by the [[liberal media]]. Many hardworking American businessmen took offense to a 2012 campaign speech about the economy where he says &amp;quot;You didn't build that.&amp;quot; Obama offended [[Poland]] by referring to the [[Nazi]] death camps there as &amp;quot;Polish death camps.&amp;quot; Later Obama apologized.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sink, J. (2012, June 1). [http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/europe/230419-obama-letter-says-he-regrets-polish-death-camp-gaffe Obama apologizes in writing for 'Polish death camp' verbal gaffe]. ''The Hill''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Biography==&lt;br /&gt;
===Birth===&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Main article : [[Early life and career of Barack Hussein Obama]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also : [[Barack Obama's Muslim Heritage]]''&lt;br /&gt;
Obama claims to have been born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham and [[Barack Obama Sr.]] - who had married just six months prior - on August 4, 1961 in [[Honolulu, Hawaii]].&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc&amp;gt;''MSNBC'' (2008, February 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23257295/ns/msnbc_tv-documentaries/t/obama-becomes-rising-star-among-democrats/ Obama Becomes Rising Star Among Democrats].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Some contend that this story is a complete fabrication.  After many leading conservatives -- including the leadership of this site and [[Donald Trump]] --  called for Obama to release his birth certificate he produced a document that he claimed was his birth certificate on April 27 2011.  Sheriff [[Joe Arpaio]] of Maricopa County in Arizona conducted an investigation of the Obama's eligibility and alleged that the alleged &amp;quot;birth certificate&amp;quot; was a fake; however, no charges have been filed.  [[Obama]] was reportedly assigned a social security number whose area code was assigned to applications coming from zip codes in Connecticut.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Beginning in 1972, all Social Security numbers were issued from a central office in Baltimore, Maryland.[http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama Sr. was not a [[Natural born citizen|citizen of the United States]]. At the time of Obama's birth, Kenya was a British colony, meaning that not only was Obama Sr. a British subject, but he passed that status on to his son. When Kenya gained independence, Obama and his father both ceased to be British subjects and became Kenyan citizens. Barack Obama was a dual citizen of the United States and Kenya until his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired in 1984, as he had failed to renounce US nationality and swear loyalty to Kenya. Even if he had been born with US citizenship through his mother, it has been argued that as he was born with dual nationality, he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, and thus constitutionally ineligible to become President.  Despite this, no court that has considered such arguments has accepted the proposition that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [http://www.scribd.com/doc/88910250/Purpura-Moran-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin Initial Decision by Jeff S. Masin] in ''Purpura and Moran v. Obama'' at 7 (&amp;quot;Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a “natural born Citizen” regardless of the status of his father.&amp;quot;), Tisdale v. Obama (E.D.Va 2012) Order at 2 (&amp;quot;It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.&amp;quot; (citing ''United States v. Wong Kim Ark'', 169 U.S. 649)), ''aff'd per curiam'' by 4th Cir., ''Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana'', 916 N.E.2d 678, 685 (Ind. Ct. App. 2009) (&amp;quot;With regard to President Barack Obama, the Plaintiffs posit that because his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom, President Obama is constitutionally ineligible to assume the Office of the President....we hold that the Plaintiffs' arguments fail to state a claim upon which relief can be granted&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Early Life===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's birth parents divorced in 1963 due to strain caused by Barack Obama Sr. leaving Hawaii to study economics at Harvard, when Obama was 2 years old, following which his mother married Lolo Soetoro, an [[Indonesian]] geologist. When Barack Obama was age 6 his mother and adoptive father took him to Jakarta, Indonesia for 4 years while his mother pursued a Ph.D. in Anthropology requiring fieldwork there.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;db mother&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-03/a-singular-woman-by-janny-scott-review-by-stacy-schiff/#|work=The Daily Beast|format=HTML|language=English|title=Dreams of His Mother|author=Stacy Schiff}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His mother then left him in Hawaii with his grandparents (Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, who had moved to Hawaii in 1959) so he could pursue American education.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed&amp;gt;Malveaux, Suzanne (2008, August 20). &amp;quot;[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/20/se.02.html Barack Obama Revealed].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Other siblings of Obama's include his half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng and 7 other children born to his father by 4 different women.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama&amp;gt;Purdum, Todd (2008, March). &amp;quot;[http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803 Raising Obama].&amp;quot; ''Vanity Fair''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For much of his early life, prior to his transfer to Columbia University, he went by his nickname, &amp;quot;Barry.&amp;quot; In the summer of 1988, before attending Harvard Law School (he'd just been accepted), he visited Kogelo, Kenya, to learn more about his father's family. When his mother died in 1995, he and his sister Maya scattered her ashes over Hawaii's south shore.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Personal Life===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Michelle Obama.jpg|frame|right|Michelle (Robinson) Obama, wife of Barack Obama.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama met and began dating his future wife, an attorney named Michelle Robinson, herself a recent Harvard Law School graduate, while he was working at Sidley Austin LLP, a prestigious corporate law firm.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; The two continued dating long-distance while he finished law school, and on October 18, 1982, were married by Reverend [[Jeremiah Wright]] at Trinity United Church.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; In 1999, their first child was born, Malia, and in 2001, another daughter, Natasha (often called Sasha).&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama attended Reverend Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church from 1984-1988 during his time as a community organizer (''See [[Barack_Obama#1984-1988.2C_Community_Organizer|1985-1988, Community Organizer]] section'').  Obama credits Wright with his alleged conversion to Christianity, and had both his daughters, Sasha and Malia, baptized there.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===&lt;br /&gt;
At age 6, Obama attended schools in Indonesia, the first a Catholic School while he was in Kindergarten, and later a public school. While the public school had mostly Muslim students (since most Indonesians were Muslim), claims that it was a Muslim school or Madrassa are false. In 1971, at age 10, Barack Obama moved to Hawaii, and his grandparents helped him gain entrance to the prestigious Punahou Academy in Honolulu through a scholarship, while he was in 5th grade.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; At his elite high school with 1,200 students he was just 1 of 3 black students, and was on the second string of the state champion basketball team his senior year. During this time he also experimented briefly with marijuana and cocaine. He wrote a poem for the school's literary magazine, ''Ka Wai Ola''.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1979, he began a 2-year stint at Occidental College college in Los Angeles&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;, and then transferred to Columbia University in New York, which he graduated from in 1983.&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic&amp;gt;Scott, Janny (2007, July 30). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=all In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During this time he allegedly spoke at an Anti-Apartheid rally on campus,&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; although several prominent student leaders said they did not remember him there. Professor Michael L. Baron was impressed by Obama and wrote him a recommendation for Harvard Law School.&amp;lt;ref name=differs&amp;gt;Scott, J. (2007, October 30). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=all Obama's Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the winter of 1988 Barack Obama decided to attend Harvard Law School, and left Chicago for Cambridge, Massachusetts. In his 2nd year he became the first black president of the ''Harvard Law Review'', following a &amp;quot;marathon voting session&amp;quot; in which he was elected on the 19th ballot.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt; This led to national attention and numerous job offers, which Obama passed up, at age 30, to pursue a political career in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Non-Political Employment===&lt;br /&gt;
====1983-1984, Financial Analyst and Writer====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1984 Obama worked as a writer and financial analyst for Business International Corporation to pay off his student loans. Business International Corporation was a small newsletter-publishing and research firm which aided multinational companies understand overseas markets. Obama served as a writer/researcher for a company reference service, Financing Foreign Operations, and wrote for their newsletter, ''Business International Money Report''. His supervisor was Cathy Lazere. &amp;lt;ref name=differs /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Henig, J. (2008, June 21). &amp;quot;[http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obama-polishes-his-resume-2/ Obama Polishes His Resume].&amp;quot; ''FactCheck.org''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====1984-1988, Community Organizer====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1984, Obama was hired by the New York Public Interest Research Group, a non-profit organization promoting environmental, consumer, and government reforms. He also was paid just under $10,000 annually as a full-time organizer for Harlem's City College to mobilize student volunteers.&amp;lt;ref name=differs /&amp;gt; From 1985-88, Obama worked as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, for which he was paid $1,000 a year, with $2,000 extra for a car. He helped Loretta Herron gain city approval for a local community job center. &amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=streetwise&amp;gt;Scott, Janny (2007, September 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/us/politics/09obama.html?pagewanted=all In 2000, a Streetwise Veteran Schooled a Bold Young Obama].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During this time Obama joined Reverend Wright's Trinity United Church because in the words of Suzanne Malveaux of ''CNN'', &amp;quot;It was the church to join if you wanted to be one of Chicago's black movers and shakers.&amp;quot; At the time, community organizing involved close affiliation with churches, which was how Obama met Wright. The slow progress in fighting asbestos contamination in the Altgeld Gardens housing project led to Obama's departure from Chicago, and enrollment at Harvard Law School in the winter of 1988.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====1988-1996, Law Practice====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1988 Obama gained work as a Summer Associate at one of the most prestigious corporate law firms in the world, Sidley Austin LLP&amp;lt;ref name=austin&amp;gt;Lattman, P. (2007, May 11). &amp;quot;[http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/05/11/sidley-austin-when-barack-met-michelle/ When Barack Met Michelle].&amp;quot; ''Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;, owned by Newton Minow, thanks to the recommendation of Minow's daughter Martha, a professor at Harvard Law School. It was at Minow's law firm that Obama would meet Michelle Robinson, his future wife.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt; From 1993-96 he practiced civil rights law, after graduating from Harvard, at Miner, Barnhill, &amp;amp; Galland, a small politically-connected law firm.&amp;lt;ref name=austin /&amp;gt; It was at Miner, Barnhill, &amp;amp; Galland that he would meet influential real estate developer Tony Rezko.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====1992-2004, Law Professor at University of Chicago====&lt;br /&gt;
Obama taught constitutional law part-time at the University of Chicago Law School&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt; from 1992-2004. He was a Lecturer from 1992-96, teaching 3 courses per year, and a Senior Lecturer from 1996-2004. Senior Lecturers are considered Law School faculty and regarded as professors but not full-time or tenured. Obama was invited to become a Senior Lecturer several times during this period but declined each time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media Media Inquiries: Statement Regarding Barack Obama].&amp;quot; ''University of Chicago Law School''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====1995, Author====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1995 Obama published ''Dreams From My Father'' about his life and family background.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Personal Awards===&lt;br /&gt;
====2009 Nobel Peace Prize====&lt;br /&gt;
On October 9, 2009 Barack H. Obama became the third sitting U.S. President&amp;lt;ref name=wilsons&amp;gt;Wilson, Scott (2009, October 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/09/AR2009100900914.html President Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize]. ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize &amp;quot;''for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples''&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NobelPrize.org (2009, October 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html The Nobel Prize for 2009: Press Release].&amp;quot; Oslo, Norway. Accessed May 13, 2012.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama stated that he was &amp;quot;surprised and deeply humbled&amp;quot; to receive the unexpected award,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, October 9). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-09/world/nobel.peace.prize_1_norwegian-nobel-committee-international-diplomacy-and-cooperation-nuclear-weapons?_s=PM:WORLD Obama: Nobel Peace Prize is 'Call to Action'].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and also said, &amp;quot;To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who have inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=wilsons /&amp;gt; The award was widely criticized given Obama's then lack of accomplishments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazan, G. &amp;amp; MacDonald, A. (2009, October 11). &amp;quot;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125509603349176083.html Nobel Committee's Decision Courts Controversy].&amp;quot; ''Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;(2009, October 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/09/obamas-peace-prize-draws-criticism-liberals/ Obama's Peace Prize Draws Criticism, Even From Some Liberals].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==1991-1992, Project Vote==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1991 Obama was recruited by Sandy Newman to head the Chicago chapter of Project Vote!&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;, and in 1992 was the Executive Director, overseeing a voter registration drive which registered 125,000 black voters and was credited with helping elect U.S. Senator Carol Mosely Braun.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==1996-2003, Illinois State Senate==&lt;br /&gt;
===1996 Election===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:O-2002-antiwar-rally-davidson.jpg|right|thumb|250px| Obama speaking at the October 2002 rally in Chicago organized by [[Carl Davidson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Davidson is a longtime [[Mao]]ist and champion of the ''Thought of Mao Tse Tung.'' Davidson's anti-Trotskyite polemic, [http://www.wengewang.org/read.php?tid=10925 ''Left in Form, Right in Essence''] defends Maoist doctrine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ''&amp;quot;[H]e is a brutal man who butchers his own people,&amp;quot;'' nevertheless Obama opposed ''&amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
====Knocking Candidates Off the Ballot====&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama ran for the Illinois state senate in 1996. He was initially supported by incumbent Alice Palmer, who declared she would run for the U.S. Congress. However, when her bid for Congress failed on November 28, 1995, she tried to run for her old seat in the March 1996 election. Her supporters asked Obama to step aside, although whether this was with her permission remains uncertain.&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt; Not only did Obama not step down, he gathered a team of high-priced lawyers, including fellow Harvard Law School graduate Thomas Johnson, to challenge his opponent's petition signatures on technicalities after the filing deadline had passed. Such tactics are legal and frequently used in Chicago; in 2006 they eliminated 67 of the 245 aldermanic candidates;&amp;lt;ref name=bareknuckle&amp;gt;Jackson, David &amp;amp; Long, Ray (2007, April 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-0704030881apr04-archive,0,1523598,full.story Barack Obama: Showing His Bare Knuckles].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet nevertheless led to the term &amp;quot;hardball&amp;quot; by the ''New York Times''&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt; and &amp;quot;cutthroat&amp;quot; by David Mendel as reported by both ''CNN''&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; and ''MSNBC''.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; The ''Chicago Tribune'' declared Obama had mastered &amp;quot;the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics&amp;quot;, noting &amp;quot;The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=bareknuckle /&amp;gt; As one of Obama's four opponents, eliminated through his ballot challenges, would put it: {{cquote|&amp;quot;Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates? He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Gha-is Askia, 1996 Illinois Senate candidate&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jackson, David &amp;amp; Long, Ray (2007, April 3). &amp;quot;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5297304,full.story Obama Knows His Way Around a Ballot].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} Mark Ewell, another candidate, filed 1,286 signatures, and Obama's challenges left him 86 short of the minimum requirement (757&amp;lt;ref name=spivak&amp;gt;Spivak, Todd (2008, February 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/ Barack Obama and Me].&amp;quot; ''Houston Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;). Ewell filed a federal lawsuit contesting the election board's decision but Tom Johnson intervened, and Ewell's case was dismissed just a few days later. Ewell and other Obama opponents were using early 1995 polling sheets to verify signatures of registered voters, but city authorities had just purged 15,871 unqualified people from the 13th district list, and Obama's challenges used the more recent, updated list. Askia was left 69 signatures short of the requirement. If names were printed instead of signed in cursive, they were declared invalid. If they were good but the person registering the signatures wasn't a registered voter (e.g. underage) they were invalid.&amp;lt;ref name=hardball&amp;gt;Griffin, Drew &amp;amp; Johnston, Kathleen (2008, May 29). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2008-05-29/politics/obamas.first.campaign_1_obama-campaign-barack-obama-chicago-politics?_s=PM:POLITICS Obama Played Hardball in First Chicago Campaign].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Palmer had according to Obama campaign consult Ronald Davis, used two children to help gather her petition signatures. To this day Palmer denies the challenges were valid, and maintains she could have overcome the objections with more time and resources.&amp;lt;ref name=bareknuckle /&amp;gt; Thanks to his lawyers, Obama would win the election without a single other candidate on the ballot.&lt;br /&gt;
===2000 Election===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Illinois 1st congressional district election, 2000]]''&lt;br /&gt;
In 2000, Obama lost his only political election when he chose to run against experienced incumbent and former Black Panther Bobby L. Rush for the U.S. Congress in a 65% black district. Rush's name recognition began at 90%, Obama's at 11%. As media consultant and former Rush campaign staffer Eric Adelstein noted, &amp;quot;Nobody said he’s ‘not black enough.’ They said he’s a professor, a Harvard elite who lives in Hyde Park.&amp;quot; Todd Spivak would give voice to this impression of Obama, noting that{{cquote|&amp;quot;My view of Obama then wasn't all that different from the image he projects now. He was smart, confident, charismatic and liberal. One thing I can say is, I never heard him launch into the preacher-man voice he now employs during speeches. He sounded vanilla, and activists in his mostly black district often chided him for it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt;}}Rush would go on to win the Primary with 61.02% of the vote; Obama received 30.36%.&amp;lt;ref name=streetwise /&amp;gt; The loss led to Obama considering dropping out of politics altogether, particularly after the September 11, 2001 attacks, since his name sounds similar to &amp;quot;Osama bin Laden&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Voting Record===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama entered the Illinois Senate promising change to a corrupt system. He mixed often radical votes with more pragmatic agreements. Possibly one of his most radical votes was against requiring medical care for aborted children who survive [[abortion|the procedure]] - in fact the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council ascribed him a 100% rating for his consistently pro-choice votes.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cbs illinois&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml|title=Obama Record May Be Gold Mine For Critics|work=CBS|format=HTML|language=English|last=Clark|first=Amy S.|date=Jan. 17, 2007}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He was criticized for using the statehouse as a stepping stone for a more illustrious career: Steven J. Rauschenberger, a [[Republican]], said prior to Obama's election as president: “He is a very bright but very ambitious person who has always had his eyes on the prize, and it wasn’t Springfield. If he deserves to be president, it is not because he was a great legislator.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=The New York Times|title=In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd|last=Scott|first=Janny|format=HTML|language=English|date=July 30, 2007|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The statehouse was majority Republican, so the Senator was sometimes forced to compromise. He formed allegiances across party lines to pass [[campaign finance]] reform that banned most gifts by lobbyists, prohibited spending campaign money for legislators’ personal use and required electronic filing of campaign disclosure reports.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Obama also helped pass  a so-called “driving-while-black bill”, which required the police to collect data on the race of drivers they stopped as a way to monitor [[racial profiling]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama established himself as a chief spokesperson in opposition to the [[War on Terror]] during an October 2002 rally at Federal Plaza in Chicago&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The rally was organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq (CAWI) later renamed Chicagoans Against War and Injustice. [http://www.noiraqwar-chicago.org/?page_id=2 About CAWI] by Carl Davidson, Nov 02 2006. Retrieved from Chicagoans Against War and Injustice, March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[community organizing|organized]] by veteran [[Mao]]ist and webmaster of [[Progressives for Obama]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.linkedin.com/in/carldavidson Carl Davidson,] LinkedIn.com, retrieved March 13, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Carl Davidson]]. &lt;br /&gt;
===Radical foundation and connection to William Ayers===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Radical roots of Barack Hussein Obama}}&lt;br /&gt;
In 1995 a cadre of like minded individuals gathered in the home of [[Weather Underground]] (WUO) [[terrorist]]s [[Bernardine Dohrn]] and [[William Ayers|William &amp;quot;Bill&amp;quot; Ayers]].  Dohrn,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Georgie Anne Geyer and Keyes Beach &amp;quot;Cuba: School for U.S. Radicals&amp;quot;, ''Chicago Daily News/Chicago Sun-Times'' five part series October 1970, excerpted in [http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/weather/weath1c.pdf FBI file Weather Underground Organization (Weatherman),] Part 1c pp. 5-7 pdf (113-115 in original). [http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/clandestine-agents-of-the-cuban-government-ayers-dohrn-myers/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; along with Carl Davidson, are veterans of [[guerrilla warfare]] training in [[Cuba]] prior 1968 Democratic National Convention riots.  Ayers and Dohrn have taken credit for, and never denied, bombing the [[U.S. Capitol]], the [[Pentagon]] and the [[State Department]].    &lt;br /&gt;
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Ayers and Dohrn used their celebrity status among [[leftist]]s to launch Obama's career. Ayers, Dohrn and [[Jeff Jones]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=106653 ''Obama's 'green jobs czar' worked with terror founder] Van Jones served on board of activist group where ex-Weatherman serves as top director'', By Aaron Klein, [[WorldNetDaily]], August 13, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; are authors of ''[[Bill_Ayers#Prairie_Fire_Organizing_Committee_and_Maoist_thought|Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-imperialism]],'' the title taken from ''The Sayings of Mao Zedong.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The book declares &amp;quot;we are [[communist]] men and women.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harvey Klehr, ''Far Left of Center: The American Radical Left Today'' (Transaction Books, New Brunswick, 1988), 109.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers later jokingly, publicly admitted to ghostwriting Obama's book, ''Dreams From My Father''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cashill, J. (2011, March 28). [http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/ayers_affirms_he_wrote_dreams.html Ayers Affirms He Wrote Dreams From My Father]. ''American Thinker''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and Obama was to appoint several openly avowed Maoists to prominent White House and Executive Branch positions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Fund, J. (2009, October 21). [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704597704574487431322664964.html From Mao to Obama]. ''The Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2003 Emil Jones Deal===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[2003 Barack Obama deal with Emil Jones]]''&lt;br /&gt;
When Illinois' U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald announced he would be retiring in April 2003, Obama jumped at the opportunity, declaring that he would be a candidate for the U.S. Senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; To boost his chances at reaching the U.S. Congress in the 2004 elections, in 2003 Barack Obama approached the newly crowned head of the Illinois Senate, Emil Jones Jr., with a proposal. According to Jones, who Obama has since called his &amp;quot;godfather&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=godfather&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2009, June 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-3983147.html Obama's Political 'Godfather' In Illinois].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the conversation went as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|&amp;quot;After I was elected president, in 2003, he came to see me, a couple months later. And he said to me, he said, ‘You’re the senate president now, and with that, you have a lot of pow-er.’  And I told Barack, ‘You think I got a lot of pow-er now?,’ and he said, ‘Yeah, you got a lot of pow-er.’ And I said, ‘What kind of pow-er do I have?’ He said, ‘You have the pow-er to make a United States sen-a-tor!’  I said to Barack, I said, ‘That sounds good!’ I said, ‘I haven’t even thought of that.’ I said, ‘Do you have someone in mind you think I could make?,’ and he said, ‘Yeah. Me.’ &amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Because of the deal, Obama's entire Illinois Senate legislative record was, as longtime Obama reporter Todd Spivak put it, built in a single year. During his 7th and final year in the Illinois Senate, Obama sponsored an incredible 26 bills into law, including many he now points to when criticized as inexperienced&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt; - as ''CNN's'' Suzanne Malveaux observed, &amp;quot;With help from on high, Obama got his name on hundreds of bills that he pushed through.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; Jones not only had Obama craft legislation addressing daily tragedies to raise his political profile&amp;lt;ref name=godfather /&amp;gt;, he also appointed Obama head of almost all high-profile legislation in the Illinois Senate, angering other state legislators with more seniority who'd spent years supporting the bills.&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt; Illinois State Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of the famous racial profiling bill requiring videotaped confessions in police interrogations, complained bitterly about Jones' decision.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=intheblack&amp;gt;Spivak, Todd (2004, March 25). &amp;quot;[http://www.illinoistimes.com/Springfield/article-922-in-the-black.html In the Black].&amp;quot; ''Illinois Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Jones' influence had a major impact on Obama's chances in the 2004 elections, preventing major political players from backing Obama's opponents. To quote Emil Jones,{{cquote|&amp;quot;He knew if he had me in the run for the Senate, it would put a block on the current mayor. The current mayor and the father of the controller, which was Dan Hynes, they were roommates in Springfield when the mayor was a state senator, so they had a relationship. Another big financial backer for the governor was Blair Hull. Barack knew if he had me it would checkmate the governor, ’cause the governor couldn’t come out and go with Blair Hull, ’cause the governor needs me. Same with the mayor. So he had analyzed and figured all of that out. He knew I could help him with labor support. And I could put a checkmate on some of the local politicians that didn’t know him, but they couldn’t really go against me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Emil Jones&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==2004-2008, U.S. Senate==&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also: [[Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Hussein_Obama#U.S._Senate_.282004-2008.29|Barack Obama:U.S. Senate (2004-2008)]], [[United States Senate election in Illinois, 2004]]''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|left|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
===2004 Primary Election===&lt;br /&gt;
Despite initially trailing in the polls to frontrunner [[Blair Hull]]&amp;lt;ref name=intheblack /&amp;gt;, Obama greatly benefited from what the ''Chicago Tribune'' called &amp;quot;the most inglorious campaign implosion in Illinois political history&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mendell&amp;gt;Mendell, David (2004, March 17). &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-03-17/news/0403170332_1_blair-hull-gery-chico-blacks-and-liberal-whites Obama Routs Democratic Foes].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; when pressure from journalists and opposing candidates, just weeks before the election, forced the unsealing of Hull's messy divorce files.&amp;lt;ref name=blairhull&amp;gt;Voegeli, William (2004, March 19). &amp;quot;[http://www.claremont.org/publications/pubid.339/pub_detail.asp The Rise and Fall of Blair Hull].&amp;quot; ''The Claremont Institute''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The files revealed Hull's ex-wife's accusations of verbal and physical abuse.&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt; Hull would afterwards criticize the media, stating, &amp;quot;As for the press, I will never read the newspaper the same way again.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mendell /&amp;gt; Obama would go on to win the Primary with 53% of the vote.&amp;lt;ref name=blairhull /&amp;gt; Obama's unexpected victory led to him being termed a &amp;quot;rising star&amp;quot; by the media.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Howlett, Debbie (2004, March 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-03-18-obama-usat_x.htm Dems See a Rising Star in Illinois Senate Candidate].&amp;quot; ''USA Today''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===2004 General Election, Jack Ryan===&lt;br /&gt;
Once again Obama found himself trailing to popular frontrunner [[Jack Ryan]], and once again a candidate's campaign imploded thanks to media intervention. In an unprecedented move, the ''Chicago Tribune'' and local TV station WLS sued to force the unsealing of Ryan's divorce files, despite opposition from both Ryan and his wife, Jeri Ryan, who in the files accused Jack Ryan of trying to coerce her to perform sex acts in public. Though Ryan advisors told him he could still win if using a negative attack on Obama, Ryan refused to engage in what he considered dirty politics.&amp;lt;ref name=abandon&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2004, June 26). &amp;quot;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/state/2004-06-25-ryan_x.htm Jack Ryan Abandons Senate Bid].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ryan then dropped out of the race (per request by the Illinois GOP&amp;lt;ref name=idealist&amp;gt;Sangwan, Rahul (2004, October 1). &amp;quot;[http://www.dartmouthindependent.com/archives/2004/10/jack_ryan_81_th.html Jack Ryan '81: The Conservative Idealist].&amp;quot; ''Dartmouth Independent''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), following which the Illinois GOP scrambled to find a replacement, leaving Obama uncontested for weeks to campaign and build up public support. On top of all this, Obama was selected to give the keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention (July 27&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Washington Post'' (2004, June 26). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19751-2004Jul27.html Illinois Senate Candidate Barack Obama].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), catapulting him into the national spotlight, and leading to further media publicity terming him a &amp;quot;rising star&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Page, Susan &amp;amp; Despoignes, Peronet (2004, July 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-07-28-obama-speech_x.htm Rising Star Brings Democrats to Their Feet].&amp;quot; ''USA Today''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===2004 General Election, Alan Keyes===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Obama born alive controversy]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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After a number of candidates including former Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka declined to run&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN'' (2004, August 9). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2004-08-09/politics/il.keyes_1_senate-candidate-senate-race-illinois-senate?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS Keyes Challenges Obama for Illinois Senate Seat].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the Illinois GOP finally settled on fiery [[Alan Keyes]], a former Ambassador to the Economic and Social Counsel of the United Nations&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt;, with less than 3 months left before the November 2004 election.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; His sudden entrance into the state for the election was initially attacked in the press as &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Chicago Tribune''. &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-08-06/news/0408060313_1_mr-keyes-judy-baar-topinka-alan-keyes The GOP's Rent-A-Senator].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''Washington Post'' (2004, August 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50885-2004Aug8.html Mr. Keyes the Carpetbagger].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=pearson&amp;gt;Pearson, Rick (2004, September 5). &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-09-05/news/0409050304_1_selfish-hedonist-alan-keyes-illinois-republican-party Keyes, State GOP Gearing Up Blame Campaign].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Keyes repeatedly claimed his primary motivation for entering a race he had seemingly no chance of winning was his disgust at Obama's votes on the popular [[Born Alive]] bills.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Keyes, Alan (2004, August 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.mail-archive.com/newsandviews@chuckmuth.com/msg00699.html How You Can Help Alan Keyes for Senate!].&amp;quot; ''Keyes2004 Inc.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Keyes, from his first day of arriving in Illinois (August 9, 2004)&amp;lt;ref name=assails&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2004, August 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5654128/ Keyes Assails Obama's Abortion Views].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, accused Obama of having voted against bills mandating medical care for newborn children, and supporting &amp;quot;infanticide&amp;quot; (the term twice used in the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''United States Congress'' (2003, March 13). &amp;quot;[http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/abortion/2003s3.html S.3: Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) where hospitals left newborn infants to die like garbage.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Smiley, Tavis (2004, August 31). &amp;quot;[http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=341 Alan Keyes on the Tavis Smiley Show].&amp;quot; ''NPR''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''CBS2 Chicago'' (2004, August 30). &amp;quot;[http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=337 Alan Keyes on CBS2 Chicago This Morning].&amp;quot; This Morning.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama in a debate on October 13, 2004, defended himself against Keyes' accusations of infanticide by claiming that Illinois law was already sufficient.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Chicago Tribune'' (2004, October 13). &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-10-13/news/0410140004_1_alan-keyes-senate-race-first-of-three-debates Debate or Discussion?]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Keyes' rhetoric, calling Obama's votes &amp;quot;the slaveholder's position&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=assails /&amp;gt; and saying &amp;quot;Jesus Christ would not vote for Obama&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Thomas, Scott (2004, September 7). &amp;quot;[http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=348 Alan Keyes on the Scott Thomas Show (AM1160 - WYLL)].&amp;quot; ''Scott Thomas Show''. Chicago, Illinois.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; was widely ridiculed by the press. Keyes' unabashed criticism of homosexuality as &amp;quot;selfish hedonism&amp;quot; was also targeted.&amp;lt;ref name=pearson /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press''. &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5897569/ Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Practicing Selfish Hedonism].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pallasch, Abdom M. (2004, September 2). &amp;quot;[http://web.archive.org/web/20071017122135/http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20040902/ai_n12560727 Topinka Says He Should Apologize for 'Idiotic' Comment].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Sun-Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama would ultimately win the election, 70% to 27%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN.com''. &amp;quot;[http://cnn.hu/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/IL/S/01/index.html Election Results: U.S. Senate/Illinois].&amp;quot; Election 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Voting Record===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama frequently used the [[filibuster]] to obstruct the operations of government,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;O'Keefe, E. (2010, February 4). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/03/AR2010020303801_pf.html Obama criticizes Senate Republicans for delaying confirmation votes]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; voted against the [[minimum wage]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and debt ceiling increases,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaplan, R. (2011, April 11). [http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/obama-once-opposed-debt-ceiling-hike/237129/ Obama Once Opposed Debt Ceiling Hike]. ''The Atlantic''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and recieved more than $126,000 in campaign contributions from [[Fannie Mae]]. The ''[[National Journal]]'' ranked him the most liberal senator in 2007.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ranked&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502163_162-3775451-502163.html|title=National Journal: Obama Most Liberal Senator In 2007|author=Brian Montopoli|date=January 31, 2008|work=CBS}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2008 Presidential Election==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Barack Hussein Obama 2008 Presidential campaign}}&lt;br /&gt;
Democrats began calling for an Obama candidacy after liberals lauded his 2004 [[Democratic National Convention]] speech.&lt;br /&gt;
====Primary Election====&lt;br /&gt;
In 2007-08, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton competed for the Democratic nomination. Hillary Clinton cleverly resurrected the &amp;quot;Born Alive&amp;quot; controversy surrounding Obama that had lain largely dormant since 2004 (notwithstanding the continuing mentions by Jill Stanek), by accusing Obama of not being pro-choice for voting &amp;quot;Present&amp;quot; on a number of abortion-related bills&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bettelheim, Adriel (2008, February 13). &amp;quot;[http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/13/obamas-present-tension/ Obama's 'Present' Tension].&amp;quot; ''PolitiFact''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; - including the Born Alive ones,&amp;lt;ref name=clinton&amp;gt;Berman, Russell (2008, January 17). &amp;quot;[http://www.nysun.com/national/clinton-obama-should-vote-no-on-abortion-issue/69700/ Clinton: Obama Should Vote 'No' On Abortion Issue She Backed].&amp;quot; ''New York Sun''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Hernandez, Raymond &amp;amp; Drew, Christopher (2007, December 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html?pagewanted=all It's Not Just 'Ayes' and 'Nays': Obama's Votes in Illinois Echo].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and cowardly ducking the votes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Politi-Fact''. &amp;quot;[http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/13/hillary-clinton/yes-but-its-complicated/ Response to Hillary Clinton Comment for January 21st, 2008].&amp;quot; Truth-o-Meter.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dorning, Mike (2007, December 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/criticism_of_obama_present_vot.html Clinton Camp Criticizes Obama 'Present' Votes].&amp;quot; The Swamp. ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This led to criticism of Obama by two pro-choice organizations, Emily's List, and the National Organization for Women.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dorning, Mike (2008, January 14). &amp;quot;[http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/obama_campaign_mounts_defense.html The Swamp: Obama Campaign Defends His Abortion-Rights Record].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dorn, Michael (2008, February 6). &amp;quot;[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_voting_record_on_aborti_1.html Obama's Voting Record on Abortion].&amp;quot; ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Newton-Small, Jay (2008, January 14). &amp;quot;[http://swampland.time.com/2008/01/14/obama_campaign_defends_present/ Obama Campaign Defends 'Present' Abortion Votes].&amp;quot; ''Time Magazine''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, Pam Sutherland, the long-time head of Illinois Planned Parenthood, came to Obama's aid, criticizing Clinton for making the attack, and stating repeatedly that Obama's present votes were part of a broader strategy used by Planned Parenthood to keep Illinois voters from knowing their state senators were voting against the controversial and popular bills.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hernandez, Raymond &amp;amp; Drew, Christopher (2007, December 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20cnd-obama.html?_r=2&amp;amp;hp&amp;amp;oref=slogin Obama's Vote in Illinois Was Often Just 'Present'].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Follmer, Max (2008, March 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/14/obama-emphasizes-prochoic_n_81460.html Obama Emphasizes Pro-Choice Voting Record as Clinton Questions 'Present' Votes].&amp;quot; ''Huffington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|&amp;quot;He came to me and said: ‘My members are being attacked. We need to figure out a way to protect members and to protect women. A ‘present’ vote was hard to pigeonhole which is exactly what Obama wanted. What it did was give cover to moderate Democrats who wanted to vote with us but were afraid to do so&amp;quot; because of how their votes would be used against them electorally. A ‘present’ vote would protect them. Your senator voted ‘present.’ Most of the electorate is not going to know what that means.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Pam Sutherland, President/CEO of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, 1980-2012&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Davis, Teddy (2007, July 17). &amp;quot;[http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2007/07/obama-abortion/ Obama Abortion Dodges Blessed by Planned Parenthood], ''ABC News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}Clinton also made the claim repeatedly that while Obama was leading in Delegates she was winning the Popular Vote&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Koffler, Daniel (2008, May 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-koffler/hillary-clinton-and-the-p_b_103913.html Hillary Clinton and the Popular Vote: Not Wrong, but Meaningless].&amp;quot; ''Huffington Post''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Barone, Michael (2008, March 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/barone/2008/03/28/projection-clinton-wins-popular-vote-obama-wins-delegate-count Projection: Clinton Wins Popular Vote, Obama Wins Delegate Vote].&amp;quot; ''U.S. News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, though this was in part because Obama hadn't been registered in Michigan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Romano, Andrew (2008, August 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/blogs/stumper/2008/06/02/clinton-s-popular-vote-claim-close-but-not-quite.html Clinton's Popular Vote Claim? Close--But Not Quite*].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''RealClearPolitics''. &amp;quot;[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html 2008 Democratic Popular Vote].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's advantage with super-delegates over Clinton was about 2-to-1.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Cite web|title=Superdelegate endorsements for Friday 6/6|work=Democratic Convention Watch|url=http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/superdelegate-endorsements-for-friday.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama was able to attract the support of [[liberals]] by pointing out that he had come out against the [[Iraq War]] &amp;quot;from the beginning&amp;quot; whereas Clinton had voted in favor of the war in 2002.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-31-democrats-debate_N.htm|title=Obama, Clinton stress differences on Iraq, issues|author=David Jackson|work=USA Today|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On June 7, 2008, Hillary Clinton withdrew from the Primaries, conceding the race and endorsing her opponent&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press''. &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/ns/politics-decision_08/t/clinton-ends-historic-bid-endorses-obama/ Clinton Ends Historic Bid, Endorses Obama].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, when Obama passed the 2,118 Delegates required; winning 2,201 delegates to Clinton's 1,896.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN''. &amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D Election Center 2008].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Born Alive Record Resurfaces====&lt;br /&gt;
On June 30, 2008, Obama's voting record on the &amp;quot;Born Alive&amp;quot; bills came once more to the forefront when CNN gave voice to the growing controversy and revealed the defense Obama had been using since 2004-2008, that the Illinois bills he'd voted against were different from the federal bill, was false, since he'd brought up for a vote a bill word for word identical to the federal bill in the Health and Human Services Committee he chaired, and voted against it, defeating it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN''. &amp;quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY How He Really Voted on Abortion: Obama's Record Under Attack].&amp;quot; ''The Situation Room''. Uploaded to ''YouTube'' by Jill Stanek.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''CNN''. &amp;quot;[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0806/30/sitroom.02.html Transcripts: June 30, 2008].&amp;quot; The Situation Room.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This led in August to a confrontation between Obama and the [[NRLC]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''National Right to Life Committee''. &amp;quot;[http://www.nrlc.org/news/2008/NRL08/ObamaCoverup.html Obama Cover-up Revealed on Born-Alive Abortion Survivor's Bill].&amp;quot; NRL News, Vol. 35, Issue 7-8, pg. 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Obama accused critics of 'lying'&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brody, David (2008, August 16). &amp;quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skq5M1Ksp_c McCain/Obama Forum].&amp;quot; ''CNN''. Uploaded to ''YouTube'' by Jill Stanek.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;David Brody (August 16, 2008). &amp;quot;[http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2008/08/16/obama-gets-heated-on-born-alive-infant-protection-act.aspx Obama Gets Heated on Born Alive Infant Protection Act].&amp;quot; ''CBN News''. The Brody File.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the NRLC challenged the assertion, and the Obama campaign conceded he &amp;quot;misspoke&amp;quot; and had voted against an identical bill to the &amp;quot;federal bill that everybody supported&amp;quot; but focused on Obama's new claim, that Illinois law was already sufficient to protect newborn children.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Berman, Russell (2008, August 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-facing-attacks-from-all-sides-over-abortion/84059/ Obama Facing Attacks From All Sides Over Abortion Record].&amp;quot; ''New York Sun''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The NRLC promptly declared &amp;quot;Senator Barack Obama's four-year effort to cover up his full role in killing legislation to protect born-alive survivors of abortions continues to unravel.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Johnson, Douglas (2008, August 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/Obamacoveruponbornalive.htm Obama Cover-up on Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Continues to Unravel After Sen. Obama Says NRLC is 'Lying'].&amp;quot; ''National Right to Life Committee''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Jeremiah Wright====&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also: [[Barack Obama and Liberation Theology]]''&lt;br /&gt;
One major dilemma that arose for Obama during his campaign was his connection to his preacher [[Jeremiah Wright]]. Obama and his wife (raised a Baptist) were members of the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776246/posts&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago, a church that embraced [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering so-called &amp;quot;oppressed groups&amp;quot; against &amp;quot;establishment forces&amp;quot;. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Church pastor Jeremiah Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statement &amp;quot;G-d damn America,&amp;quot; and in describing the September 11th attacks, &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being [[anti-Semitic]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In April 2008, after 20 years in the church, candidate Obama made public statements poised to set him at odds with the man who conducted his wedding and baptized his children. With the negative publicity persisting, a month later Obama ended the friendship, left Wright's church, and blamed the media.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, May 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama claimed “It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;, and distanced himself from  Wright's sermons  as &amp;quot;a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in the truth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;USA TODAY, ''Obama breaks with former pastor, Candidate cites rants on U.S. role in terror, AIDS'', by Kathy Kiely and David Jackson [http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080430/1a_offlede30_dom.art.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Obama Says He Is Outraged By Wright's &amp;quot;Rants&amp;quot;''[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080430.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Result====&lt;br /&gt;
Obama made an effort to portray John McCain as similar to George W. Bush, drawing attention to McCain's refusal to criticize the unpopular president. McCain was particularly criticized for saying of how many years we should be willing to stay in Iraq, &amp;quot;Make it a hundred.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dobbs, Michael (2008, April 2). &amp;quot;[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html FactChecker: McCain's '100-Year War'].&amp;quot; ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{cquote|&amp;quot;John McCain went on television and said that there has been great progress economically over the last seven-and-a-half years. John McCain thinks our economy has made great progress under George W. Bush? How could somebody who has been traveling across this country, somebody who came to Erie, Pennsylvania, say we’ve made great progress?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zeleny, Jeff (2008, April 18). &amp;quot;[http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/obama-criticizes-mccain-on-economic-stance/ Obama Criticizes McCain on Economic Stance].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} On August 22nd, Obama selected [[Joe Biden]] as his running mate for the vice presidency&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN'' (2008, August 23). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-23/politics/biden.democrat.vp.candidate_1_biden-john-mccain-barack-obama?_s=PM:POLITICS Obama Introduces Biden as Running Mate].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which would be contrasted one week later with John McCain's selection of [[Sarah Palin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cooper, Michael &amp;amp; Bumiller, Elisabeth (2008, August 29). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/29palin.html?pagewanted=all Alaskan is McCain's Choice; First Woman on G.O.P. Ticket]. ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On November 2, 2008, Barack Obama won the presidential election with 365 electoral votes to John McCain's 173.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2008, November 14). &amp;quot;[http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/explorer.html Electoral Explorer].&amp;quot; Election Results 2008. ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama received 53% of the popular vote to John McCain's 46%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2008, November 17). &amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/ President].&amp;quot; Election Center 2008. ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2009-2012, U.S. Presidency==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Obama administration}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Obama and George H. W. Bush.jpg|thumb|right|300px|President Barack Obama meets with former President George H. W. Bush in the Oval Office, Feb. 15, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Under Obama's stewardship the United States has suffered the largest [[Federal budget deficit|deficit]]s&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Edwards, B. et. al. (2009, November 6). [http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10708/11-06-mbr.htm Monthly Budget Review: Fiscal Year 2009]. ''Congressional Budget Office''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Delisle, E.C. et. al. (2010, November 5). [http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/118xx/doc11873/NovemberMBR.pdf Monthly Budget Review: Fiscal Year 2010]. ''Congressional Budget Office''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in history and a credit downgrade from the rating agency Standard &amp;amp; Poor.  However, during the Obama Administration the national deficit has increased at a much lower rate than during the Bush Administration. Most observers attribute the deficits to increasing benefits and welfare paid out on account of the recession he inherited and has failed to end along with decreasing tax receipts.  Standard &amp;amp; Poor decided to downgrade U.S. government debt after the debt ceiling debate debacle, where Congressional leaders refused to pass a bill authorizing borrowing to pay for the budget they had passed with much debate and controversy earlier in the year.  Cynics have argued that rhetoric directed at the rating agencies about the issuance of AAA ratings to junk real estate bonds spurred the downgrade as a form of retribution.  Ironically, the investor scare led to the flocking of investors to the safe haven of the Treasury bonds which had been downgraded, resulting in lower interest rates.  As there are very few AAA bond markets, investors will likely continue to buy U.S. government debt for the foreseeable future.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Greenwald, A. (2011, April 18). [http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/04/18/the-sp-outlook-and-obama/ The S&amp;amp;P Outlook and Obama]. ''Commentary Magazine''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When his [[economic stimulus]] program was adopted unemployment rose and stagnated in the 10% range, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Di Leo, L &amp;amp; Lynch, S.N. (2010, August 20). [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704476104575439172480870774.html Jobless Claims Jump in New Sign Recovery is Sputtering]. ''The Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; leaving tens of millions without [[hope]] of finding a job.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bureau of Labor Statistics. [http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&amp;amp;series_id=LNS11300000&amp;amp;years_option=specific_years&amp;amp;include_graphs=true&amp;amp;to_month=1&amp;amp;from_month=2 Databases, Tables &amp;amp; Calculators by Subject: Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey]. ''United States Department of Labor''. Data extracted on: July 19, 2010 (4:31:11 PM).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen, writing in the [[Wall Street Journal]], noted, &amp;quot;Rather than being a unifier, Mr. Obama has divided America on the basis of race, class and partisanship.&amp;quot; The commentators also note Obama's approach to governance has encouraged radical leftists to pursue a similar strategy on his behalf. Mary Frances Berry, former head of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, acknowledged that the [[Obama administration]] has taken to polarizing America around the issue of race as a means of diverting attention from other issues, saying, &amp;quot;Having one's opponent [[race card|rebut charges of racism]] is far better than discussing [[Unemployment|joblessness]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Berry, M.F. (2010, July 20). [http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Mary_Frances_Berry_91E3D9D5-C40D-440C-9D48-1C50CBC60C87.html Energy Arena, Driving the Conversation: Contracting Out U.S. Security? And will Branding Tea Party Racist Work?] ''Politico''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Caddell and Schoen, who worked for President Carter and Clinton, respectively, further stated, &amp;quot;Mr. Obama has also cynically [[class warfare|divided the country on class lines]]. He has taken to playing the populist card time and time again. He bashes Wall Street and insurance companies whenever convenient to advance his programs, yet he has been eager to accept campaign contributions and negotiate with these very same banks and [[corporation]]s behind closed doors in order to advance his political agenda... President Obama's divisive approach to governance has weakened us as a people and paralyzed our political culture.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Caddell, P.H. &amp;amp; Schoen, D.E. (2010, July 28). [http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748703700904575391553798363586.html Our Divisive President]. ''The Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Domestic policy===&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's first act of office was to sign the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act - effectively nullifying the [[Supreme Court]] case ''Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire &amp;amp; Rubber Co.'', which ruled that Ledbetter had to have filed a pay [[discrimination]] suit within 180 days of the first time Ledbetter was paid less than her male peers;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/politics/30ledbetter-web.html|work=The New York Times|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obama Signs Equal-Pay Legislation|author=Sheryl Gay Stolberg|date=January 29, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the law made corporations subject to suit within 180 days of each time the employee was unfairly paid.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://writ.news.findlaw.com/grossman/20090213.html?=features|work=FindLaw|author=Joanna L. Grossman|date=Feb. 13, 2009|format=HTML|language=English|title=The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On January 2, 2011, Obama signed the James Zadroga [[9/11]] Healthcare and Compensation Act.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2011/jan/02/obama-signs-zadroga-act-law/|publisher=New York Public Radio|title=Obama Signs Zadroga Act into Law|author=Fred Mogul|date=January 02, 2011|work=wNYC|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The act, which afforded 9/11 first responders who were sickened by the dust from the collapse of the [[World Trade Center]] health care and compensation, passed [[Congress]] after its sponsored agreed to scale down the pricing from 7.4 to 4.2 billion dollars.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/dec/22/zadroga-911-bill-passes-senate/|publisher=New York Public Radio|work=wNYC|format=HTML|language=English|title=Congress Approves 9/11 Health Bill|date=December 22, 2010}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Economic policy====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Keynes.jpg|thumbnail|right|190px|[[Barack Obama]] advocates the use of discredited [[Keynesian economics|Keynesian economic concepts]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/fabian-john-maynard-keynes-the-stealthy-enemy-of-human-freedom/ John Maynard Keynes the stealthy enemy of human freedom]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-02-22/deathbed-of-keynesian-economics-will-be-in-u-k-matthew-lynn.html Deathbed of Keynesian Economics will be in the UK]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.iwf.org/inkwell/show/23102.html Will the G8 Repudiate the Philosophy of Living Beyond Our Means?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch09.html KEYNES AT HARVARD Economic Deception as a Political Credo BY ZYGMUND DOBBS]&lt;br /&gt;
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Critics of the Obama administration have coined the word &amp;quot;[[Obamunism]]&amp;quot; to describe Barack Obama's [[socialism|socialistic]] and &amp;quot;[[fascism]] light&amp;quot; [[economic planning]] policies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Benito Mussolini]] defined fascism as the wedding of state and corporate powers.  Accordingly, trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] labels [[Obama administration corporate bailouts|Obama's corporate bailouts]] as being &amp;quot;fascism light&amp;quot; in nature.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/daily-intel/2009/07/20/obamunism-inc|work=The Big Money|publisher=WashingtonPost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obamunism, Inc.|author=David Sessions|date=July 20, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.smallbusinessadvocate.com/small-business-interviews/gerald-celente-6944|author=Jim Blasingame|title=Is the government creating a bailout bubble?}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obamunism can also refer to Obama's [[Obama administration fiscal policy|ruinous fiscal policies]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|reckless monetary policies]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gerard&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching|title=Monetary Policy-Not Obama's Stimulus-Is What Needs Watching|author=Gerard Jackson|date=February 16, 2009|work=Seeking Alpha}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bam&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=New York Post|date=May 17, 2009|url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm|title=BAM'S WISE WORDS}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/|title=Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures|work=The Foundry|publisher=The Heritage Foundation|author=Conn Carroll|date=March 24th, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  As seen in his own actions, Barack Obama instructed his advisors to find loopholes that would enable the president to act as a [[dictator]] by pushing through legislation and increases in spending without congressional authority.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Naked Emperor News (2011, October 12). [http://www.theblaze.com/stories/executive-dictatorship-obama-instructs-advisers-to-push-through-stimulus-projects-without-pesky-congressional-authorization/ Exclusive Dictatorship: Obama Instructs Advisors to Push Through Stimulus Projects Without Pesky 'Congressional Authorization']. ''The Blaze''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, budgets passed under President Obama have included the smallest average annualized growth of federal spending (1.4%) since before President Reagan. Federal spending grew an average of 8.7% per year during Reagan's first term and an average of 8.1% per year during George W. Bush's second term.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/|title=Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?|publisher=Forbes|author=Rick Ungar|date=May 24th, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wall Street]] firms and banks that were bailed out were among Obama's biggest campaign supporters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''OpenSecrets.org''. [http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&amp;amp;cid=N00009638 Barack Obama: Top Contributors]. The Center for Responsive Politics.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Therefore, the Obama administration bailouts of corrupt, unproductive, and reckless Wall Street firms was hardly surprising, and many argue that it was not helpful in making the United States economy more productive and prosperous by encouraging more risk taking through letting banks off with a slap on the wrist.  Others argue that bailing out the banks kept credit flowing and prevented a much deeper recession and a total collapse of the financial system.  The government will recoup some though not all of its capital infusions over time.  A 2005 study found that government corporate bailouts are often done for mere political considerations and the economic resources allocated exhibit significantly worse economic performance than resources allocated using purely business considerations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Faccio, M. et. al. (2005, March 1). [http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=676905 Political Connections and Corporate Bailouts]. ''Social Science Research Network''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Proponents of [[free market]] capitalism said Bernanke should not have bailed out failing firms and instead should have allowed free market capitalism to quickly recover as it did in the depression of 1920 without government intervention (free market capitalists assert that government intervention drags out economic recessions and depressions).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Woods, T.E. (2009, April 10). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI Why You've Never Heard of the Great Depression of 1920]. ''Ludwig Von Mises Institute''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Top trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] predicts that the corrupt economic policies of the Obama administration will lead to a second [[Great Depression|great depression]] (Celente predicted the 1987 US stock market crash, the dot.com crash, the US 2008/2009 recession, and the collapse of the USSR in the early 1990s) and may lead to a &amp;quot;second [[American Revolution]]&amp;quot; (Celente predicted the [[Tea Party Movement|tax protests]] that are now occurring in America).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 1). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&amp;amp;feature=channel_page pt 2/2 Gerald Celente on Financial Sense Newshour Aug 1st 2009]. ''Financial Sense Newshour''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 2). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&amp;amp;feature=response_watch ]. ''Financial Sense Newshour''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Celente also asserts that the costly and inefficient temporary short term methods that the Obama administration is using to alleviate economic problems in the short term (which is causing massive increases in [[Obama administration deficit spending]]) is only making matters worse and will not prevent the worse economic depression in United States history from occurring.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 11). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8K7rWkGGw pt 1/2 Gerald Celente on Howestreet.com 11 Aug 2009]. ''HoweStreet.com''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 11). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBffdIW0XA&amp;amp;feature=response_watch pt 2/2 Gerald Celente on Howestreet.com 11 Aug 2009]. ''HoweStreet.com''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama administration has been sharply criticized for [[Obama administration deficit spending|its massive deficit spending]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|its reckless monetary policy]] via vast increases in the [[money supply]], although inflation under Bernanke has been below the historic mean.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gerard&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bam&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carroll, C. (2009, March 24). [http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/ Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures]. ''The Foundry''. The Heritage Network.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Celente predicts that if a &amp;quot;second American Revolution&amp;quot; occurs in a peaceful and productive manner, it may include a [[Third Party System|third party movement]] of governance that will advocate a more [[free market]] [[capitalism]] approach to the American economy and a more strict interpretation of the [[United States Constitution|United States constitution]] as far as the authors' [[original intent]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente1&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente2&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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During what the [[White House]] billed as [[Recovery Summer]], one half million workers per week continued losing their jobs. His signature legislative achievement, [[ObamaCare]],has been found to be [[unconstitutional]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Schoenberg, T. &amp;amp; Fisk, M.T. (2010, December 13). [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-13/u-s-health-care-law-requirement-thrown-out-by-judge.html Obama's Health-Care Law Ruled Unconstitutional Over Insurance Requirement]. ''Bloomberg''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; by several judges and constitutional by others, and is credited as a major cause of uncertainty, high [[unemployment]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33220&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; lagging job creation,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foster, J.D. (2010, August 5). [http://blog.heritage.org/2010/08/05/it%E2%80%99s-official-medicare%E2%80%99s-finances-shadowed-by-uncertainty/ It’s Official: Medicare’s Finances Shadowed by Uncertainty]. ''The Foundry''. The Heritage Network.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and risk of a credit default crisis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Samuelson, R.J. (2010, March 29). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/28/AR2010032802353.html With health bill, Obama has sown the seeds of a budget crisis]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cramer, J. (2010, March 16). [http://www.thestreet.com/story/10703361/cramer-obamacare-will-topple-the-market.html Cramer: Obamacare Will Topple the Market]. ''The Street''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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His 2012 Budget plan has been roundly criticized in the mainstream and liberal press as not a serious effort to deal with the nation's economic crisis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=blogs.view&amp;amp;blog_id=1551d6f5-2ac9-4b8d-97ab-74def354024e Newspapers Call Out White House: ‘What Would That Path Be, Mr. President?’]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeffrey Tucker]] wrote, &amp;quot;President Obama's economic policy has been catastrophic for liberty, enterprise, and the American dream—the very archetype of what not to do to end recession.&amp;quot; [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1118186176/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=anncoulter-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1118186176]&lt;br /&gt;
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====2009 Stimulus====&lt;br /&gt;
In early 2009, Obama lobbied Congress and the public to pass sweeping Stimulus legislation for the ailing economy&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, January 3). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28479998/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-urges-congress-pass-stimulus-plan/ Obama Urges Congress to Pass Stimulus Plan].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Parsons, C. &amp;amp; Nicholas, P. (2009, February 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28479998/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-urges-congress-pass-stimulus-plan/ Barack Obama Sternly Urges Congress to Pass Economic Stimulus].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; known as ''The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009'' (H.R. 1)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1: Bill Text Versions: H.R. 1].&amp;quot; 111th Congress (2009-2010). ''Library of Congress''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Information Center].&amp;quot; ''IRS''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, ignoring a report by the Congressional Budget Office that the legislation would ultimately harm the economy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dinan, S. (2009, February 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/ CBO: Obama Stimulus Harmful Over Long Haul].&amp;quot; ''U.S. News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Contrary to his earlier promises of bipartisanship&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dinan, S. (2009, March 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/28/mccain-obama-breaks-campaign-promises-shuns-bipart/?page=all McCain: Obama Breaks Promise of Bipartisanship].&amp;quot; ''Washington Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the bill passed the House 244-188 without a single Republican vote on January 28, 2009,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Calmes, J. (2009, January 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/us/politics/29obama.html House Passes Stimulus Plan With No G.O.P. Votes].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and received just 3 Republican votes when passing the Senate 61-37.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Herszenhorn, D.M. (2009, February 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/washington/11web-stim.html Senate Approves Stimulus Plan].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One third of the massive $838 billion bill consisted of tax cuts&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, February 11). &amp;quot;Senate Passes $838 Billion Stimulus Bill].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the rest spending on &amp;quot;just about every pent-up Democratic proposal of the last 40 years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, January 28). &amp;quot;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html A 40-Year Wish List].&amp;quot; ''Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In responding to criticism of the broken bipartisanship promise at the time, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi famously quipped, &amp;quot;We won the election. We wrote the bill.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kane, P. (2009, January 23). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203961.html Stimulus Plan Meets More GOP Resistance].&amp;quot; ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On February 18, 2009, the Stimulus was signed into law by Obama.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, February 17). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29231790/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-stimulus-lets-americans-claim-destiny/ Obama: Stimulus Lets Americans Claim Destiny].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In August 2009, Republicans and Democratic Senator David Obey drew attention to mistakes on the Recovery.gov site claiming Stimulus jobs created that didn't exist. Obama responded by saying the errors just indicate the accounting is an &amp;quot;inexact science&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, November 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/18/obama-calls-stimulus-data-errors-issue-says-focus-job-growth/ Obama Calls Stimulus Data Errors 'Side Issue,' Says Focus Is on Job Growth].&amp;quot; ''FOX News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{main article|Obamacare}}&lt;br /&gt;
On March 23, 2010, Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA). The act had originated in the House of Representatives and passed September 17, 2009. The act was amended and passed the Senate prior to [[Democrat]] [[Ted Kennedy]]'s passing along party lines - just a filibuster-proof majority at 60-39. In what can be construed as a de facto rejection of the bill, [[Massachusetts]] voters elected a [[Republican]] candidate, [[Scott Brown]], who promised to vote against the bill,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/scott-brown-wins-massachusetts-senate-race.html|work=The Washington Post|author=Chris Cillizza|date=January 19, 2010|title=Scott Brown wins Massachusetts Senate special election race|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but another Senate vote would not occur.  Scott Brown was also an excellent campaigner and judged to be a better candidate than his rival, Martha Coakley.  He has since achieved one of the most moderate senate voting records, likely to avoid the anger of his mostly liberal constituency.  After Obama made a promise to issue an [[executive order]] that would ultimately prohibit the use of taxpayer subsidies to pay for [[abortion]] services,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/22/nation/la-na-healthcare-passage22-2010mar22/3|work=The Los Angeles Times|format=HTML|language=English|title=House passes historic healthcare overhaul|date=March 22, 2010|author=Noam N. Levey and Janet Hook}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the [[House of Representatives]] would pass the bill as it left the Senate 219-212, with 34 Democrats and all other parties dissenting.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.cnn.com/2010-03-21/politics/health.care.main_1_health-care-entire-house-democratic-caucus-pre-existing-conditions?_s=PM:POLITICS|date=March 21, 2010|author=Alan Silverleib|work=CNN|format=HTML|language=English|title=House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Amongst other things, the act mandates that the population purchase health care coverage or face punitive tax measures, and on this basis has been constitutionally challenged in the federal courts, with mixed results (three courts have upheld the act, two have declared it unconstitutional); thus, the Act is likely destined for [[Supreme Court]] reviewal.  Plans originally proposed involved instituting a universal public insurance program, that is, extending Medicare to everyone.  The universal mandate included in the act was originally a conservative idea that was enacted in Massachusetts under Republican Mitt Romney.  Its supporters note that having health insurance results in reduced costs in paying for treatment of uninsured and forcing people to take responsibility for their healthcare.  Due to ethical constraints, doctors cannot deny care to poor patients, resulting in the hospital and the healthcare system at large bearing the cost.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Gulf oil spill====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster}}&lt;br /&gt;
President Obama authorized offshore oil drilling in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0430/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-imperils-Obama-s-offshore-drilling-plan Gulf of Mexico oil spill imperils Obama's offshore drilling plan,] By Mark Clayton, ''Christian Science Monitor'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stating, &amp;quot;oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;White House Press Release, [http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-a-discussion-jobs-and-economy-charlotte-north-carolina Remarks by the President in a Discussion on Jobs and the Economy in Charlotte, North Carolina,] Office of the Press Secretary, April 02, 2010. Retrieved from whitehouse.gov 3 May 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was widely criticized for his mishandling of the &amp;quot;[[Gulf oil spill disaster|worst environmental disaster]] in US history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m4d29-Worst-environmental-disaster-in-US-history-Oil-slick-in-Gulf-of-Mexico-is-set-on-fire Worst environmental disaster in US history,] Maryann Tobin, ''Examiner'', April 29, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/the-oil-spill-is-obamas-fault/?src=twt&amp;amp;twt=NytimesKrugman Conscience of a Liberal: The Oil Spill Is Obama’s Fault,] Paul Krugman, ''New York Times'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Don't Ask Don't Tell====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Don't Ask Don't Tell}}&lt;br /&gt;
Candidate Obama promised to repeal a policy that originated in the Clinton era that prohibited inquiries into military personnel's [[sexual orientation]] while also barring &amp;quot;out&amp;quot; [[homosexuals]] from serving in the military. [[Liberals]] expressed anger when time passed and no effort to repeal the law was seen;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/obama-to-delay-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell/|work=The Washington Times|format=HTML|title=Obama to delay ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ repeal|language=English|author=Rowan Scarborough|date=November 21, 2008}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in fact, Obama's [[justice department]], as part of their duty to defend all laws passed by any administration, filed a brief arguing against the [[Supreme Court]] granting a [[writ of certiorari]] to a gay soldier challenging the law (the writ was not granted). In response, the soldier, James Pietrangelo II, a former Army infantryman and lawyer, said, “[Obama's] a coward, a bigot and a pathological liar. This is a guy who spent more time picking out his dog, Bo, and playing with him on the White House lawn than he has working for equality for gay people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=Time Magazine|publisher=Time Inc.|format=HTML|url=http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1903545,00.html?imw=Y|title=Dismay Over Obama's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Turnabout|author=Mark Thompson|date=Jun. 09, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On December 15th, 2010, a bill was introduced in the [[House of Representatives]] to repeal the law - it passed a day later by a vote of 250-175;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll638.xml|title=FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 638|format=HTML|work=Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; it passed the Senate three days later 65-31.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00281|work=The U.S. Senate|title=U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 111th Congress - 2nd Session|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama signed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 on December 22nd.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;g dadt&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/22/obama-repeals-dont-ask-dont-tell|work=The Guardian|format=HTML|language=English|title='Don't ask, don't tell' repealed as Obama signs landmark law|date=22 December 2010}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Pentagon]] itself could not immediately implement the repeal and questioned whether it would hurt combat readiness.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;g dadt&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Senator [[John McCain]], the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, opposed the bill, saying &amp;quot;It may be premature to make such a change at this time and in this manner, without further consideration of this report and further study of the issue by Congress – for of all the people we serve, one of our highest responsibilities is to the men and women of our armed services, especially those risking their lives in combat.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/mccain-on-dont-ask-dont-tell-dont-rush/|title=McCain on ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’: Don’t Rush|date=December 2nd, 2010|format=HTML|author=David M. Herszenhorn|language=English|work=The New York Times}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign policy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Western Wall Obama.jpg|thumb|left|320px|At [[Western Wall]], Jerusalem, 2008.]]&lt;br /&gt;
As Senator, Obama was highly critical of President Bush and promised change. As President, Obama has tripled down in Afghanistan, widened the war into Pakistan, multiplied drone attacks, bombed Yemen and Somalia, and started an undeclared NATO war in Libya. On presidential war powers, surveillance questions, Guantanamo, detention policy and habeas corpus, Obama has similarly stayed the course, or expanded Bush's precedents. In a speech on May 19, 2011 Obama fully embraced the [[Bush Doctrine]] of preventative war.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Krauthammer, C. (April 19). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-news-in-obamas-speech/2011/05/19/AF4dFN7G_story.html The News in Obama's Speech]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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From the Boston Globe:&lt;br /&gt;
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'The New America Foundation, which tracks the strikes, has listed 23 raids since the beginning of April, 2011, all but one in Pakistan’s tribal regions of North and South Waziristan. A June 20 attack was reported in Kurram, an area north of North Waziristan along the Afghanistan border.'&lt;br /&gt;
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'The drone program has become increasingly controversial as the Obama administration has expanded its use beyond the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Lethal missiles have been launched from unmanned aircraft in at least five countries in addition to Pakistan: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and, most recently, Somalia. The military’s Joint Special Operations Command used a drone last June to attack what officials said were two senior members of the Al Shabab militant group on the Somali coast.'  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;DeYoung, K. (2011, July 4).  [http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2011/07/04/cia_halts_drone_launches_from_pakistan_base/ CIA Halts Drone Launches From Pakistan Base]. ''The Boston Globe''. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A commentator says:&lt;br /&gt;
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'Obama is commendable when he says he wants to avoid war. His policies, however, favor war by destabilizing the Middle East making it extremely hostile and favoring radical Islam over America’s ally, Israel, and American interests in the region... The president has chosen a very dangerous path for every American and one that promises great difficulty for Israel.' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.thejerusalemconnection.us/blog/2012/03/14/obamas-words-disguise-his-israel-foreign-policy-actions.html Obama's words disguise his Israel foreign policy actions.] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Commander-in-chief====&lt;br /&gt;
By Obama's third year as Commander-in-Chief, over 1200 American troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan - significantly more than the number who died during President [[George W. Bush]]'s term of office.  And growing numbers of civilian contractors also have fallen. In the first half of 2010, 250 contractors reportedly died in Iraq and Afghanistan - more than the 235 military personnel who fell during the same period.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/05/24/114662/what-price-war.html#ixzz1Nz07pg5O&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====National Defense=====&lt;br /&gt;
President Obama signed into U.S. law the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), only after his administration successfully lobbied to remove language from the bill that would have protected American citizens from being detained indefinitely without trial.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Aaron Dykes. [http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-ndaa-signing-statement-i-have-the-power-to-detain-americans-but-i-wont/ Obama’s Signing Statement on NDAA: I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t], Infowars.com, January 1, 2012. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After the legislation cleared Congress, the ACLU commented that if President Obama signed the bill it &amp;quot;will damage both his legacy and American’s reputation for upholding the rule of law,&amp;quot; while executive director of the ''Human Rights Watch'' blasted the President for being ‘on the wrong side of history,’ noting that &amp;quot;Obama will go down in history as the president who enshrined indefinite detention without trial in US law.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;President Decides to Sign Ill-Conceived National Defense Authorization Act. [http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/14/us-refusal-veto-detainee-bill-historic-tragedy-rights US: Refusal to Veto Detainee Bill A Historic Tragedy for Rights], ''Human Rights Watch'', December 14, 2011. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[http://www.aclu.org/national-security/white-house-backs-away-defense-bill-veto-threat White House Backs Away from Defense Bill Veto Threat], ''[[ACLU]]'', December 14, 2011.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Section 1031 of the NDAA bill, which itself defines the entirety of the United States as a “battlefield,” allows American citizens to be snatched from the streets, carted off to a foreign detention camp and held indefinitely without trial. As reported by Infowars.com, the bill states that “any person who has committed a belligerent act” faces indefinite detention, but no trial or evidence has to be presented, the White House merely needs to make the accusation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Paul Joseph Watson. [http://www.infowars.com/obama-administration-demanded-power-to-indefinitely-detain-u-s-citizens/ Obama Administration Demanded Power To Indefinitely Detain U.S. Citizens], Infowars.com, December 12, 2011.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;S.1867 [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c112:2:./temp/~c1122VN0Iv:e548990: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Engrossed in Senate [Passed Senate] - ES)], ''The Library of Congress'' THOMAS, 112th Congress (2011-2011), Accessed January 25, 2012.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Text of S.1867 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012. [http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1867/text?version=es&amp;amp;nid=t0:es:281 Sec. 1031. Affirmation of authority of the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force.], [[U.S. Congress]], ''OpenCongress.org'', (Accessed January 25, 2012).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====2009-2011 Iraq Troop Withdrawal=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Operation Iraqi Freedom}}&lt;br /&gt;
On February 10, 2007, Barack Obama announced his campaign for the U.S. presidency while stating he had a &amp;quot;''plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 2008.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=announcement&amp;gt;(2007, February 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/10/AR2007021000879.html Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's Announcement Speech].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Later, Obama campaigned on having troops entirely out of Iraq within 16 months, but in February 2009 revised this promise to withdrawing all but 35-50 thousand troops by December 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Barry, J. (2009, February 25). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/02/25/reality-on-the-ground.html Reality on the Ground].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, some of the newly withdrawn troops were simply redirected from Iraq to Afghanistan - Obama in Summer 2009 ordered 21,000 troops to Afghanistan.&amp;lt;ref name=amanpour&amp;gt;Amanpour, C. (2009, April 29). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-29/politics/amanpour.obama.foreign.policy_1_president-obama-obama-administration-iraq?_s=PM:POLITICS Amanpour: Obama's 100 Days of Foreign Affairs].&amp;quot; ''CNN Politics''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{cquote|&amp;quot;But all of this cannot come to pass until we bring an end to this war in Iraq. Most of you know I opposed this war from the start. I thought it was a tragic mistake. Today we grieve for the families who have lost loved ones, the hearts that have been broken, and the young lives that could have been. America, it's time to start bringing our troops home. It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war. That's why I have a plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 2008. Letting the Iraqis know that we will not be there forever is our last, best hope to pressure the Sunni and Shia to come to the table and find peace.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Barack Obama, February 10, 2007 Presidential Campaign Announcement Speech&amp;lt;ref name=announcement /&amp;gt;}}Ultimately, it was the Status of Forces Agreement signed by George W. Bush on November 17, 2008 which forced U.S. combat troops to withdraw from Iraq's cities, villages, and localities by June 30, 2009, and from Iraq entirely by December 31st 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2008, November 17). &amp;quot;[http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/world/20081119_SOFA_FINAL_AGREED_TEXT.pdf Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq].&amp;quot; Article 24. Withdrawal of the United States Forces from Iraq. Hosted by ''The New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Office of the Press Secretary (2008, November 27). &amp;quot;[http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/11/20081127-1.html Statement by the President on Agreements with Iraq].&amp;quot; ''The White House''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama privately contacted the Iraq government in an attempt to persuade them to let 10,000 troops stay, but was rejected.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Froomkin, D. (2011, October 26). &amp;quot;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-iraq_n_1032507.html Ending the War in Iraq: How Obama's Own Rhetoric - And George Bush's Pact - Boxed in the President].&amp;quot; ''Huffington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Newsweek's Michael Ware accused Obama of a &amp;quot;War Crime&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;''falsely taking credit for finally bringing Iraq to a close—a war actually ended by the Bush administration back in 2008''&amp;quot; and stated, &amp;quot;''The U.S. troops who fought and died in that war, the Iraqis who perished, and the American people deserve far better.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ware, M. (2011, October 24). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/24/obamas-war-crime-taking-credit-from-bush-adminsitration-for-ending-the-iraq-war.html Obama's War Crime].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''. U.S. Politics.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The last of Iraq's combat troops have now been withdrawn because of Bush's Status of Forces Agreement which Obama took credit for.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-17/middleeast/world_meast_iraq-troops-leave_1_1st-cavalry-division-camp-adder-troop-movements?_s=PM:MIDDLEEAST|work=CNN|title=Obama: Last U.S. troops leave Iraq|date=December 17, 2011|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Afghanistan=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Afghanistan War}}&lt;br /&gt;
Obama escalated troop strength&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pbs&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamaswar/themes/strategy.html#ixzz1LhWNImZp|title=Obama's New Strategy (March '09)|author=George Packer, Seth Jones, David Kilcullen, Rory Stewart, Andrew Exum, Col. Andrew Bacevich (Ret.)|work=PBS|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and defense costs in Afghanistan from $43.5 billion in George Bush's last year to $113.7 billion for 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Congressional Research Service, quoted in Gregory Anthony, ''What price war?''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Adviser to General [[Stanley McChrystal]] David Kilcullen wrote, &amp;quot;One of the big strategic shifts is the use of language now which talks about Pakistan and Afghanistan as the same theater. Now we talked about Af-Pak long before the Obama administration came about, but the public use of that term, and the description of it as the Afghanistan-Pakistan campaign, sends a new message to people about how the administration is going to think about Afghanistan and Pakistan.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pbs&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; This became evident when, under the orders of Obama, a military SEALs team killed September 11th mastermind [[Osama bin Laden]] in Abottabad, Pakistan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/05/commander-in-chief.html|title=Commander in Chief|author=Daniel Romano and Daniel Klaidman|date=May 05, 2011|work=Newsweek|publisher=The Newsweek/Daily Beast Company LLC|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Guantanamo Bay=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Guantanamo Bay}}&lt;br /&gt;
One of Obama's campaign promises was that he would close the American detention center at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba - detainees would be flown to other countries while the ones awaiting trial would enter the American court system. Two days after taking office he signed an order directing the military to do so.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;salon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/25/obama_guantanamo_rhetoric|work=Salon|title=The Obama/Gitmo timeline|author=Natasha Lennard|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But, in November 2009 Obama admitted that his self imposed deadline of January 2010 would be missed, and in March 2011 the president went back on his campaign promise, signing an executive order to create a formal system of indefinite detention for the prisoners.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;salon&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Mexico=====&lt;br /&gt;
In May 2012, President Obama promised Mexican President [[Felipe Calderon]] that his administration would assist Mexico in curbing drug cartel violence, which has led to 30,000 deaths in Mexico. &amp;quot;President Calderon and I . . . stand together against the drug cartels that have unleashed horrific violence in so many communities,&amp;quot; Obama said on May 19. &amp;quot;Mexico can count on the United States as a full partner in this effort.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''[[Washington Post]]'' has reported however that White House officials stopped a requirement for gun dealers to report bulk sales of high-powered semiautomatic rifles commonly used by illegal drug cartels.  [[Justice Department]] officials had asked for White House approval to require thousands of gun dealers along the border to report the purchases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives. ATF investigators expected to get leads on suspected arms traffickers. Senior law enforcement sources said the proposal from the ATF was held up by then White House chief of staff [[Rahm Emanuel]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Horwitz, S. &amp;amp; Grimaldi, J.V. (2010, December 17). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/17/AR2010121706598.html White House Delayed Rule Meant to Stop Gun Flow to Mexico]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Gun dealers have been required for decades to report the sales of multiple handguns to the ATF.&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Libya=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Libyan uprising 2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
In February 2011, the political unrest that had spread through the Arab world showed up as protests in Libya. Colonel Muammar el-Qaddafi - leader of Libya for 41 years - responded to the violent activism&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28376.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with legible steps.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt libya&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/libya/index.html|work=The New York Times|publisher=The New York Times Inc.|format=HTML|language=English|title=Libya — Protests and Revolt (2011)}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[United Nations Security Council]] voted unanimously to impose [[sanctions]], and later authorized all members to take action to protect civilians. Obama, acting without approval from Congress and at the beckoning of the [[United Nations]], directed American forces to take out Libya's air defense system.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt libya&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Obama later said, &amp;quot;[I]f we waited one more day Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Barack Obama|url=http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134935452/obamas-speech-on-libya-a-responsibility-to-act|title=Obama's Speech On Libya: 'A Responsibility To Act'|date=March 28, 2011|publisher=National Public Radio ([[NPR]])|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Alan J. Kuperman]] - writing an editorial for the ''[[Boston Globe]]'' - suggested this statement was false, writing, &amp;quot;[I]ntervention did not prevent genocide, because no such bloodbath was in the offing. To the contrary, by emboldening rebellion, US interference has prolonged Libya’s civil war and the resultant suffering of innocents.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;kuperman&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Alan J. Kuperman|work=The Boston Globe|url=http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions|title=False pretense for war in Libya?|date=April 14, 2011}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Kuperman, a professor of public affairs at the University of Texas who authored a book called ''The Limits of Humanitarian Intervention'', further stated that the rebels had tricked the world into thinking a bloodbath was at hand and that Obama had lied to the American people in order to act on this theory.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;kuperman&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaddafi [never] threaten civilian massacre in Benghazi, as Obama alleged. The “no mercy’’ warning, of March 17, targeted rebels only, as reported by The New York Times, which noted that Libya’s leader promised amnesty for those “who throw their weapons away.’’ Khadafy even offered the rebels an escape route and open border to Egypt, to avoid a fight “to the bitter end.’’ &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://politicalcartel.org/2011/04/17/libya-and-the-obama-doctrine/ Libya and the “Obama Doctrine”.] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However Gaddafi wrote to Obama:&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaddafi said he bore no ill will toward Obama. &amp;quot;We have been hurt more morally than physically because of what had happened against us in both deeds and words by you,&amp;quot; he wrote. &amp;quot;Despite all this you will always remain our son whatever happened. We still pray that you continue to be president of the USA. We endeavour and hope that you will gain victory in the new election campaign.&amp;quot; The letter, dated 5 April 2011 in Tripoli, is signed &amp;quot;Mu'aumer Qaddaffi, Leader of the Revolution&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/06/gaddafi-obama-nato-libya?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Critics point out the only thing worse than starting a &amp;quot;stupid, unnecessary war&amp;quot; against a madman is losing it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/271847/war-libya-dumb-and-dumber-victor-davis-hanson&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2012 Presidential Campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
===2011, Birth Certificate Released===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Barack_Obama_Controversies#Birth_Certificate]]''&lt;br /&gt;
On April 27, 2011&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;CNN Political Unit (2011, April 27). &amp;quot;[http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/ White House Releases Obama Birth Certificate].&amp;quot; ''CNN''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a long-running controversy surrounding Obama's birth was largely put to rest&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Winter, J. (2011, April 29). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/ Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate is Legit].&amp;quot; ''FOX News''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Tuchman, G. (2011, April 25). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-25/politics/birthers.obama.hawaii_1_birther-controversy-obama-opinion-research-corporation?_s=PM:POLITICS Obama Birther Claims Have No Merit].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;(2011, April 27). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42779923/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-releases-detailed-us-birth-certificate/ Obama Releases Detailed U.S. Birth Certificate].&amp;quot; ''MSNBC''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; when Obama had his long-form birth certificate posted at WhiteHouse.gov.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf Certificate of Live Birth].&amp;quot; State of Hawaii. Retrieved from ''WhiteHouse.gov''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Donald Trump, who had attacked Obama on the Birth Certificate issue and was then leading Republicans in polls for the upcoming GOP primary&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James, F. (2011, April 15). &amp;quot;[http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/04/15/135446314/poll-donald-trump-birther-darling-leads-gop-field-at-26 Donald Trump, Birther In Chief? Poll Has Him Leading GOP Field with 26 Percent].&amp;quot; ''NPR''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, was effectively knocked out of the race because of this.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kapur, S. (2011, May 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/10/trumps-popularity-tanks-after-obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/ Trump's Popularity Tanks After Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate].&amp;quot; ''RawStory.com''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following is a timeline of previous events leading up to the release:&lt;br /&gt;
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* In June 2008 the Obama campaign allowed FactCheck.org to look at his “Certificate of Live Birth” and take photos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Henig, J. (2008, August 21). Born in the U.S.A. FactCheck.org. Retrieved from http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In July 2008 a blogger discovered a birth announcement from the Honolulu Advertiser from August 13, 1961 for Barack Obama. It has since been discovered another newspaper, the Star Bulletin, also documented the birth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Snopes.com. Barack Obama Birth Certificate. Retrieved from http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* PolitiFact went to extreme lengths to verify Obama’s citizenship, attaining scanned copies of his 1992 marriage certificate from Cook County, IL, his driver’s license record, and his registration and disciplinary record. PolitiFact also addressed a number of concerns about the documentation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hollyfield, A. (2008, June 27). Obama’s birth certificate: Final chapter. PolitiFact. Retrieved from http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* In October 2008 Hawaii’s Department of Health released a statement by Dr. Chiyome Fu.kino verifying that Obama’s birth certificate was on record.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hawaii Department of Health. News Release: Statement by Dr. Chiyome Fu.kino. Retrieved from http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* In August 2009 it was revealed that an alleged Kenyan birth certificate for Obama was a hoax.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Snopes.com. Kenyan Mistake. Retrieved from http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Another website allows you to create your own imitation Kenyan birth certificates online.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;KenyanBirthCertificateGenerator.com. Blue Collar Industries. Retrieved from http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2011, Osama Bin Laden Confirmed Dead===&lt;br /&gt;
On May 1, 2011, Obama announced in a press conference&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama, B. (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead Osama Bin Laden Dead].&amp;quot; ''WhiteHouse.gov''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that Osama Bin Laden was dead after a U.S. assault force infiltrated his military compound in Abottobad, Pakistan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Baker, P., Cooper, H., &amp;amp; Mazzetti, M. (2011, May 1). &amp;quot;[Bin Laden is Dead, Obama Says].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Osama_Bin_Laden/ Target Bin Laden: The Death of Public Enemy #1].&amp;quot; ''ABC News''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''NPR''. &amp;quot;[http://www.npr.org/series/135908383/osama-bin-laden-dead Special Series: Osama Bin Laden Killed].&amp;quot; &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bin Laden was reportedly shot in the head after a helicopter raid ferried Navy SEAL Team Six and CIA paramilitary operatives into Pakistan on April 29.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2011, May 1). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-20058777.html Osama bin Laden is Dead].&amp;quot; Retrieved from ''CBSNews.com''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Reuters obtained photos of unidentified dead bodies from the raid, none of which look like bin Laden. However, the White House had the body of Osama bin Laden disposed of at sea because it claimed this was &amp;quot;in accordance with Islamic tradition&amp;quot; and didn't want to give Bin Laden followers a gravesite shrine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Daily Beast (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-killed-and-buried-at-sea-breaking-details.html Osama Bin Laden Killed and Buried at Sea].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The White House also refused to publicly reveal photos or evidence of the body, because Obama claimed that &amp;quot;given the graphic nature of these photos, it would create some national security risk.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Allbritton, C. (2011, May 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-pakistan-photos-idUSTRE7437KK20110504 Photos Show Three Dead Men at Bin Laden Raid House].&amp;quot; ''Reuters''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''Reuters''. &amp;quot;[http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound Photos From the Bin Laden Compound].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The burial at sea was criticized by Islamic scholars&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-20058892.html Islamic Scholars Criticize Bin Laden Sea Burial].&amp;quot; Retrieved from ''CBSNews.com''. Also at [http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/02/islamic-scholars-question-bin-ladens-sea-burial/ Fox News].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 9/11 families.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zirulnick, A. (2011, May 3). &amp;quot;[http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/0503/Osama-bin-Laden-s-burial-at-sea-critics-range-from-9-11-families-to-militants Osama Bin Laden's Burial At Sea: Critics Range from 9/11 Families to Militants].&amp;quot; ''Christian Science Monitor''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The lack of photos resulted in skepticism about the death from a variety of sources, including the Taliban&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Faiez, R. &amp;amp; Vogt, H. (2011, May 4). &amp;quot;[http://articles.boston.com/2011-05-04/news/29509464_1_bin-taliban-spokesman-zabiullah-mujahid-samiullah-khan Taliban Holding Out for Clear Evidence].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and Republican Senator Lindsey Graham.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rosen, J. &amp;amp; Thomma, S. (2011, May 5). &amp;quot;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/05/05/113709/sc-sen-graham-wants-bin-laden.html S.C. Sen. Graham Wants Bin Laden Photos Released].&amp;quot; ''McClatchy Newspapers''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The death of bin Laden, coupled with the revealing of Obama's long-form Birth Certificate, resulted in a boost of Obama's job approval from 46% to 57% within one month.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dao, J. &amp;amp; Sussman, D. (2011, May 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/us/politics/05poll.html For Obama, Big Rise in Poll Numbers After Bin Laden Raid].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''Pew Research Center'' (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/03/public-relieved-by-bin-ladens-death-obamas-job-approval-rises/ Public 'Relieved' by Bin Laden's Death, Obama's Job Approval Rises].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Jones, J.M. (2011, May 5). &amp;quot;[http://www.gallup.com/poll/147437/obama-approval-rallies-six-points-bin-laden-death.aspx Obama Job Approval Rallies Six Points to 52% After Bin Laden Death].&amp;quot; ''Gallup''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2012, relations between the U.S. and Pakistan remain sour because the U.S. did not involve Pakistan fully in the raid to ensure success.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CBS/Associated Press'' (2012, May 1). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57424622/1-year-after-osama-bin-laden-killed-still-no-answers-from-pakistan/ 1 Year After Osama bin Laden Killed, Still No Answers from Pakistan].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Pakistan has denied White House claims that there was a deal with it allowing the raid.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2011, May 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/10/pakistani-president-claims-bin-laden-deal/ Former Pakistani President Claims There Was Never Bin Laden Deal With U.S.].&amp;quot; Retrieved from ''FOX News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2012: Ties to ACORN? ===&lt;br /&gt;
According to Stanley Kurtz - author of ''Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism'' (2010) Obama in 1995 sought and obtained the endorsement of a left-wing third party, the [[New Party]] in his quest to be elected to the Illinois State Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kurtz, S. (2012, June 7). [http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302031/obamas-third-party-history-stanley-kurtz Obama's Third-Party History]. ''National Review Online''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's &amp;quot;Fight the Smears&amp;quot; campaign has denied this, as has Politico's Ben Smith.&amp;lt;ref name=pollack&amp;gt;Pollack, J.B. (2012, June 7). [http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/07/Obama-Caught-Lying-Again-He-WAS-Member-of-New-Party-Says-Kurtz Obama Caught Lying Again: He WAS Member of 'New Party', Says Kurtz]. ''Breitbart''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Smith, B. (2008, October 25). [http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/The_dread_New_Party.html The Dread New Party]. ''Politico''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Others who claim he was affiliated with the New Party/ACORN include The Blaze's Billy Hallowell&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hallowell, B. (2012, June 7). [http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-new-documents-show-obama-was-a-member-of-the-far-left-new-party/ News Docs Reportedly Show Obama Was a Member of the Far-Left 'New Party']. ''The Blaze''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Breitbart's Joel Pollack, Human Events' Erick Erickson&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Erickson, E. (2008, June 10). [http://www.humanevents.com/2008/06/10/obama-and-the-new-party/ Obama and the New Party]. ''Human Events''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Newsbusters' P.J. Gladnick&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Gladnick, P.J. (2008, October 12). [http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/will-msm-report-obama-membership-socialist-new-party#ixzz21JfE3z1z Will MSM Report on Obama Membership in Socialist New Party?] ''Newsbusters''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Rick Moran at AmericanThinker.com&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rick Moran. [http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/obamas_alliance_with_marxists.html Obama's Alliance with Marxists], ''American Thinker'', June 03, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and various writers at Discover the Networks (which include Kurtz and Erickson).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7434 NEW PARTY (NP)], ''DiscoverTheNetworks.org''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Kurtz in 2012 has claimed to find minutes of the New Party Chicago chapter that say, &amp;quot;''Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions. He signed the New Party 'Candidate Contract' and requested an endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=pollack /&amp;gt; Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod responded to Kurtz with silence and when asked if that meant &amp;quot;yes or no&amp;quot;, Axelrod stated, &amp;quot;You can take that as I have no idea what you are talking about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Pollack, J.B. (2012, June 7). [http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/07/Exclusive-Axelrod-Plays-Dumb-on-Obama-and-Socialist-New-Party Exclusive: Axelrod Plays Dumb on Obama and Socialist New Party]. ''Breitbart''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;You didn't build that&amp;quot; Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
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On July 13, 2012, at a campaign event in [[Virginia]], Obama gave a speech that immediately stirred up controversy. Speaking about the government's role in the success of private business, he said:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you’ve got a business - you didn’t build that.  Somebody else made that happen.}} The [[Romney]] campaign has used &amp;quot;If you’ve got a business - you didn’t build that&amp;quot; in ads to show America that Obama believes it is government that creates business rather than hard-working individuals. The Obama campaign has alternatively stated that the sentenced was poorly worded since he was not giving a scripted speech and that when Obama said &amp;quot;that&amp;quot; he was referring to roads and bridges. Obama points to a later portion of his speech in which he said, &amp;quot;The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together,&amp;quot; to support his claim.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Accusations about birth certificate and cultural and name identity==&lt;br /&gt;
Some conservative opponents have accused Obama of not being an American but born outside of the United States, this accusation was bolstered by Obama's reluctance to show his birth certificate to the public, until prompted by [[Donald Trump]]. Obama presented a birth certificate to the public. Some conservative opponents believe that the birth certificate he presented was a forgery.  They are known as &amp;quot;birthers&amp;quot; both by their conservative and liberal opponents. However conservatives like [[Ann Coulter]] reject the birthers' accusations, and view birthers as a fringe group that left-wing media like MSNBC have exaggerated in order to discredit the conservative movement. &lt;br /&gt;
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There is evidence to support the claim that Obama is a Muslim who took the name  '''Barry Soetoro''' during his time in [[Indonesia]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPXVJuT2vY Barry Soetoro the Muslim - YouTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Other analyses support the claim that Obama is an [[Atheism|atheist]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Political positions of Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barack Obama and uncharitableness]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barack Obama and abortion]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Born Outside the U.S.A.!]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jobsgate]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recovery Summer]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lobbyists ties to the Obama administration]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Party]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[ObamaCare]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama doublespeak]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama inauguration]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Religion of Barack Hussein Obama]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Honorable James David Manning]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Young Communist League]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.antiobama.net/ Anti Obama.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.dontvoteobama.net/ Don’t Vote For Obama.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://nobamanetwork.com/ Nobama Network]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/ Audacity Of Hypocrisy]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ The Real Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6130/ The New Cult of Personality]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.survivingobamunism.com/index.html Surviving Obamunism T-shirts]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/ Barack Obama the Anti-Christ ?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/23/che-obama-and-the-revolutionary-agenda/ Che, Obama, and the Revolutionary Agenda]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/ Obama Laundry List of Lies]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/09/americas-first-muslim-president/ GAFFNEY: America's first Muslim president?] Washington Times&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l-esposito/barack-obama-and-islam_b_212519.html Barack Obama and Islam.] by [[John L. Esposito]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78931 Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ontheissues.org/barack_obama.htm Barack Obama on the issues.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWLwrvT2vo Obama = Kosher Puppet.] video on You Tube.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (b. August 4, 1961, either in [[Kenya]] or [[Honolulu, Hawaii]]) was elected the 44th President.  Promoted heavily by [[liberals]], as demonstrated by his unjustified receipt of the 2009 [[Nobel Prize|Nobel Peace Prize]], Obama won the presidency despite a short and unremarkable political career by outspending his opponent, [[John McCain]], by hundreds of millions of dollars in 2008. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[liberal claptrap]] that helped elect Obama as president seems silly today.  It was claimed, for example, that Obama has millions of followers on Twitter, when allegedly some 70% of them are fake.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/08/obama-has-millions-of-fake-twitter-followers/1#.UDfQVqA2et_&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  And although the [[lamestream media]] promoted Obama as a great orator, in fact he relies almost entirely on teleprompters for his speeches and press conferences, and at one point even had teleprompters set up for him in a middle school classroom in order to speak to the media.&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. During the 2008 election campaign Obama said that he intended to &amp;quot;[[Redistribution of wealth|spread the wealth around]]&amp;quot; - which conservatives have condemned for being [[Socialism|socialist]]. Barack Obama has been widely criticized by the American [[business]] community and others for his anti-business policies that are destroying American jobs during a period of high unemployment.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zuckerman, M.B. (2010, July 16). [http://www.usnews.com/opinion/mzuckerman/articles/2010/07/16/obamas-anti-business-policies-are-our-economic-katrina Obama's Anti-business Policies are our Economic Katrina]. ''U.S. News''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Barnes, F. (2009, July 22). [http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/619dvjlm.asp An Anti-Business President]. ''The Weekly Standard''. Vol. 14, No. 38&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Shedlock, M. (2010, August 20). [http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/08/small-businesses-are-not-hiring-why.html Small Businesses are not hiring. Why should they?] Globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Wright, C.E. (2012, February 12). [http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/02/dear_mr_president_why_we_are_n.html Dear Mr. President: Why we are not hiring]. ''American Thinker''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On July 26, 2012, the [[Gallup Poll|Gallup organization]] reported that merely 35% of business owners approved of Barack Obama's job performance.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gallup.com/poll/156206/Business-Owners-Among-Least-Approving-Obama.aspx U.S. Business Owners Now Among Least Approving of Obama]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Former [[Democrat]] Presidential candidate [[Joe Lieberman]] endorsed Obama's opponent in 2008 and has declined to endorse [[Obama]] for the [[Presidential Election 2012]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lillis, M. (2012, April 22). [http://thehill.com/video/campaign/222929-lieberman-declines-to-endorse-in-presidential-race Sen. Lieberman declines to endorse in presidential race]. ''The Hill''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Under President Obama's mismanagement of the economy, the United States Government's credit rating was, for the first time in its history, downgraded from AAA to AA+, and [[poverty]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/incpovhlth/2009/pov09fig04.pdf Figure 4: Number in Poverty and Poverty Rate: 1959-2009]. ''U.S. Census Bureau''. Current Population Survey, 1960 to 2010 Annual Social and Economic Supplements.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; increased markedly. By and large his programs, said to combat the recession, unemployment, slow growth, and deficits, have failed&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date. While 68% also believe a jobs bill, such as the one recently enacted into law, will have no impact on payrolls, 30% do believe it will boost payrolls moderately&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[http://www.nabe.com/press/ind1004.pdf Industry Survey], ''National Association for Business Economics'', April 2010, p. 2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; leaving the the country saddled with a $16 trillion [[national debt]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Under Obama the U.S. National Debt has tripled. Source: [https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/fredgraph.png?graph_id=86836 U.S. Treasury]; Federal Reserve Board.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One of his most well known tactics is blaming someone else, such as George W. Bush, for all his failures instead of taking responsibility. Also on the domestic front, Obama passed an expensive [[health care]] bill in 2009 with no [[bipartisan]] support and 34 Democrats dissenting. Recently, the [[Congressional Budget Office]] wrote an open letter to [[John Boehner]], the Speaker of the House, outlining the effects of repealing [[Obamacare]] and explaining why net loss of over 100 billion dollars would occur from the repeal. [http://cbo.gov/publication/43471]&lt;br /&gt;
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Fatalities in [[Afghanistan]] have more than doubled under Obama's leadership compared with the preceding eight years combined, according to the Congressional Research Service &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chesser, S.G. (2012, July 12). [http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/natsec/R41084.pdf Afghanistan Casualties: Military Forces and Civilians - CRS Report for Congress]. Pg. 3. ''Congressional Research Service''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. Against his own Defense Secretary's advice, Obama [[Libyan uprising 2011|attacked Libya]] - a possible violation of the [[War Powers Act]]. After he announced the killing of [[September 11th]] mastermind and terrorist [[Osama bin Laden]], the [[U.S. State Department]] warned of the increased risk to the lives and safety of Americans around the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''KABC-TV/DT'' (2011, July 27). [http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=news/national_world&amp;amp;id=8273909 Risk of anti-US violence up after Osama bin Laden's death]. On ''ABC7 News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bin Laden's death had negligible long-term impact on Obama's approval ratings, as seen in Gallup's daily poll.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Gallup''. [http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/gallup-daily-obama-job-approval.aspx Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's bizarre gaffes are frequent and embarrassing, but typically unreported by the [[liberal media]]. Many hardworking American businessmen took offense to a 2012 campaign speech about the economy where he says &amp;quot;You didn't build that.&amp;quot; Obama offended [[Poland]] by referring to the [[Nazi]] death camps there as &amp;quot;Polish death camps.&amp;quot; Later Obama apologized.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sink, J. (2012, June 1). [http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/europe/230419-obama-letter-says-he-regrets-polish-death-camp-gaffe Obama apologizes in writing for 'Polish death camp' verbal gaffe]. ''The Hill''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Biography==&lt;br /&gt;
===Birth===&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama claims to have been born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham and [[Barack Obama Sr.]] - who had married just six months prior - on August 4, 1961 in [[Honolulu, Hawaii]].&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc&amp;gt;''MSNBC'' (2008, February 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23257295/ns/msnbc_tv-documentaries/t/obama-becomes-rising-star-among-democrats/ Obama Becomes Rising Star Among Democrats].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Some contend that this story is a complete fabrication.  After many leading conservatives -- including the leadership of this site and [[Donald Trump]] --  called for Obama to release his birth certificate he produced a document that he claimed was his birth certificate on April 27 2011.  Sheriff [[Joe Arpaio]] of Maricopa County in Arizona conducted an investigation of the Obama's eligibility and alleged that the alleged &amp;quot;birth certificate&amp;quot; was a fake; however, no charges have been filed.  [[Obama]] was reportedly assigned a social security number whose area code was assigned to applications coming from zip codes in Connecticut.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Beginning in 1972, all Social Security numbers were issued from a central office in Baltimore, Maryland.[http://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Barack Obama Sr. was not a [[Natural born citizen|citizen of the United States]]. At the time of Obama's birth, Kenya was a British colony, meaning that not only was Obama Sr. a British subject, but he passed that status on to his son. When Kenya gained independence, Obama and his father both ceased to be British subjects and became Kenyan citizens. Barack Obama was a dual citizen of the United States and Kenya until his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired in 1984, as he had failed to renounce US nationality and swear loyalty to Kenya. Even if he had been born with US citizenship through his mother, it has been argued that as he was born with dual nationality, he is not a natural-born citizen of the United States, and thus constitutionally ineligible to become President.  Despite this, no court that has considered such arguments has accepted the proposition that Obama is not a natural-born citizen.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [http://www.scribd.com/doc/88910250/Purpura-Moran-Initial-Decision-of-ALJ-Masin Initial Decision by Jeff S. Masin] in ''Purpura and Moran v. Obama'' at 7 (&amp;quot;Thus, accepting for the point of this issue that Mr. Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a “natural born Citizen” regardless of the status of his father.&amp;quot;), Tisdale v. Obama (E.D.Va 2012) Order at 2 (&amp;quot;It is well settled that those born in the United States are considered natural born citizens.&amp;quot; (citing ''United States v. Wong Kim Ark'', 169 U.S. 649)), ''aff'd per curiam'' by 4th Cir., ''Ankeny v. Governor of the State of Indiana'', 916 N.E.2d 678, 685 (Ind. Ct. App. 2009) (&amp;quot;With regard to President Barack Obama, the Plaintiffs posit that because his father was a citizen of the United Kingdom, President Obama is constitutionally ineligible to assume the Office of the President....we hold that the Plaintiffs' arguments fail to state a claim upon which relief can be granted&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Early Life===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's birth parents divorced in 1963 due to strain caused by Barack Obama Sr. leaving Hawaii to study economics at Harvard, when Obama was 2 years old, following which his mother married Lolo Soetoro, an [[Indonesian]] geologist. When Barack Obama was age 6 his mother and adoptive father took him to Jakarta, Indonesia for 4 years while his mother pursued a Ph.D. in Anthropology requiring fieldwork there.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;db mother&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-03/a-singular-woman-by-janny-scott-review-by-stacy-schiff/#|work=The Daily Beast|format=HTML|language=English|title=Dreams of His Mother|author=Stacy Schiff}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; His mother then left him in Hawaii with his grandparents (Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, who had moved to Hawaii in 1959) so he could pursue American education.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed&amp;gt;Malveaux, Suzanne (2008, August 20). &amp;quot;[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0808/20/se.02.html Barack Obama Revealed].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Other siblings of Obama's include his half-sister Maya Soetoro-Ng and 7 other children born to his father by 4 different women.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama&amp;gt;Purdum, Todd (2008, March). &amp;quot;[http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/03/obama200803 Raising Obama].&amp;quot; ''Vanity Fair''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For much of his early life, prior to his transfer to Columbia University, he went by his nickname, &amp;quot;Barry.&amp;quot; In the summer of 1988, before attending Harvard Law School (he'd just been accepted), he visited Kogelo, Kenya, to learn more about his father's family. When his mother died in 1995, he and his sister Maya scattered her ashes over Hawaii's south shore.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Personal Life===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Michelle Obama.jpg|frame|right|Michelle (Robinson) Obama, wife of Barack Obama.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama met and began dating his future wife, an attorney named Michelle Robinson, herself a recent Harvard Law School graduate, while he was working at Sidley Austin LLP, a prestigious corporate law firm.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; The two continued dating long-distance while he finished law school, and on October 18, 1982, were married by Reverend [[Jeremiah Wright]] at Trinity United Church.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; In 1999, their first child was born, Malia, and in 2001, another daughter, Natasha (often called Sasha).&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama attended Reverend Jeremiah Wright's Trinity United Church from 1984-1988 during his time as a community organizer (''See [[Barack_Obama#1984-1988.2C_Community_Organizer|1985-1988, Community Organizer]] section'').  Obama credits Wright with his alleged conversion to Christianity, and had both his daughters, Sasha and Malia, baptized there.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===&lt;br /&gt;
At age 6, Obama attended schools in Indonesia, the first a Catholic School while he was in Kindergarten, and later a public school. While the public school had mostly Muslim students (since most Indonesians were Muslim), claims that it was a Muslim school or Madrassa are false. In 1971, at age 10, Barack Obama moved to Hawaii, and his grandparents helped him gain entrance to the prestigious Punahou Academy in Honolulu through a scholarship, while he was in 5th grade.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; At his elite high school with 1,200 students he was just 1 of 3 black students, and was on the second string of the state champion basketball team his senior year. During this time he also experimented briefly with marijuana and cocaine. He wrote a poem for the school's literary magazine, ''Ka Wai Ola''.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1979, he began a 2-year stint at Occidental College college in Los Angeles&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;, and then transferred to Columbia University in New York, which he graduated from in 1983.&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic&amp;gt;Scott, Janny (2007, July 30). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=all In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During this time he allegedly spoke at an Anti-Apartheid rally on campus,&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; although several prominent student leaders said they did not remember him there. Professor Michael L. Baron was impressed by Obama and wrote him a recommendation for Harvard Law School.&amp;lt;ref name=differs&amp;gt;Scott, J. (2007, October 30). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?pagewanted=all Obama's Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the winter of 1988 Barack Obama decided to attend Harvard Law School, and left Chicago for Cambridge, Massachusetts. In his 2nd year he became the first black president of the ''Harvard Law Review'', following a &amp;quot;marathon voting session&amp;quot; in which he was elected on the 19th ballot.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt; This led to national attention and numerous job offers, which Obama passed up, at age 30, to pursue a political career in Chicago.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Non-Political Employment===&lt;br /&gt;
====1983-1984, Financial Analyst and Writer====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1984 Obama worked as a writer and financial analyst for Business International Corporation to pay off his student loans. Business International Corporation was a small newsletter-publishing and research firm which aided multinational companies understand overseas markets. Obama served as a writer/researcher for a company reference service, Financing Foreign Operations, and wrote for their newsletter, ''Business International Money Report''. His supervisor was Cathy Lazere. &amp;lt;ref name=differs /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Henig, J. (2008, June 21). &amp;quot;[http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/obama-polishes-his-resume-2/ Obama Polishes His Resume].&amp;quot; ''FactCheck.org''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====1984-1988, Community Organizer====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1984, Obama was hired by the New York Public Interest Research Group, a non-profit organization promoting environmental, consumer, and government reforms. He also was paid just under $10,000 annually as a full-time organizer for Harlem's City College to mobilize student volunteers.&amp;lt;ref name=differs /&amp;gt; From 1985-88, Obama worked as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago, for which he was paid $1,000 a year, with $2,000 extra for a car. He helped Loretta Herron gain city approval for a local community job center. &amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=streetwise&amp;gt;Scott, Janny (2007, September 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/09/us/politics/09obama.html?pagewanted=all In 2000, a Streetwise Veteran Schooled a Bold Young Obama].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During this time Obama joined Reverend Wright's Trinity United Church because in the words of Suzanne Malveaux of ''CNN'', &amp;quot;It was the church to join if you wanted to be one of Chicago's black movers and shakers.&amp;quot; At the time, community organizing involved close affiliation with churches, which was how Obama met Wright. The slow progress in fighting asbestos contamination in the Altgeld Gardens housing project led to Obama's departure from Chicago, and enrollment at Harvard Law School in the winter of 1988.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====1988-1996, Law Practice====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1988 Obama gained work as a Summer Associate at one of the most prestigious corporate law firms in the world, Sidley Austin LLP&amp;lt;ref name=austin&amp;gt;Lattman, P. (2007, May 11). &amp;quot;[http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/05/11/sidley-austin-when-barack-met-michelle/ When Barack Met Michelle].&amp;quot; ''Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;, owned by Newton Minow, thanks to the recommendation of Minow's daughter Martha, a professor at Harvard Law School. It was at Minow's law firm that Obama would meet Michelle Robinson, his future wife.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt; From 1993-96 he practiced civil rights law, after graduating from Harvard, at Miner, Barnhill, &amp;amp; Galland, a small politically-connected law firm.&amp;lt;ref name=austin /&amp;gt; It was at Miner, Barnhill, &amp;amp; Galland that he would meet influential real estate developer Tony Rezko.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====1992-2004, Law Professor at University of Chicago====&lt;br /&gt;
Obama taught constitutional law part-time at the University of Chicago Law School&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt; from 1992-2004. He was a Lecturer from 1992-96, teaching 3 courses per year, and a Senior Lecturer from 1996-2004. Senior Lecturers are considered Law School faculty and regarded as professors but not full-time or tenured. Obama was invited to become a Senior Lecturer several times during this period but declined each time.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media Media Inquiries: Statement Regarding Barack Obama].&amp;quot; ''University of Chicago Law School''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====1995, Author====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1995 Obama published ''Dreams From My Father'' about his life and family background.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Personal Awards===&lt;br /&gt;
====2009 Nobel Peace Prize====&lt;br /&gt;
On October 9, 2009 Barack H. Obama became the third sitting U.S. President&amp;lt;ref name=wilsons&amp;gt;Wilson, Scott (2009, October 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/09/AR2009100900914.html President Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize]. ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize &amp;quot;''for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples''&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;NobelPrize.org (2009, October 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/2009/press.html The Nobel Prize for 2009: Press Release].&amp;quot; Oslo, Norway. Accessed May 13, 2012.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama stated that he was &amp;quot;surprised and deeply humbled&amp;quot; to receive the unexpected award,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, October 9). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2009-10-09/world/nobel.peace.prize_1_norwegian-nobel-committee-international-diplomacy-and-cooperation-nuclear-weapons?_s=PM:WORLD Obama: Nobel Peace Prize is 'Call to Action'].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and also said, &amp;quot;To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who have inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=wilsons /&amp;gt; The award was widely criticized given Obama's then lack of accomplishments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Chazan, G. &amp;amp; MacDonald, A. (2009, October 11). &amp;quot;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125509603349176083.html Nobel Committee's Decision Courts Controversy].&amp;quot; ''Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;(2009, October 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/09/obamas-peace-prize-draws-criticism-liberals/ Obama's Peace Prize Draws Criticism, Even From Some Liberals].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==1991-1992, Project Vote==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1991 Obama was recruited by Sandy Newman to head the Chicago chapter of Project Vote!&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;, and in 1992 was the Executive Director, overseeing a voter registration drive which registered 125,000 black voters and was credited with helping elect U.S. Senator Carol Mosely Braun.&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==1996-2003, Illinois State Senate==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:O-2002-antiwar-rally-davidson.jpg|right|thumb|250px| Obama speaking at the October 2002 rally in Chicago organized by [[Carl Davidson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Davidson is a longtime [[Mao]]ist and champion of the ''Thought of Mao Tse Tung.'' Davidson's anti-Trotskyite polemic, [http://www.wengewang.org/read.php?tid=10925 ''Left in Form, Right in Essence''] defends Maoist doctrine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ''&amp;quot;[H]e is a brutal man who butchers his own people,&amp;quot;'' nevertheless Obama opposed ''&amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
====Knocking Candidates Off the Ballot====&lt;br /&gt;
Barack Obama ran for the Illinois state senate in 1996. He was initially supported by incumbent Alice Palmer, who declared she would run for the U.S. Congress. However, when her bid for Congress failed on November 28, 1995, she tried to run for her old seat in the March 1996 election. Her supporters asked Obama to step aside, although whether this was with her permission remains uncertain.&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt; Not only did Obama not step down, he gathered a team of high-priced lawyers, including fellow Harvard Law School graduate Thomas Johnson, to challenge his opponent's petition signatures on technicalities after the filing deadline had passed. Such tactics are legal and frequently used in Chicago; in 2006 they eliminated 67 of the 245 aldermanic candidates;&amp;lt;ref name=bareknuckle&amp;gt;Jackson, David &amp;amp; Long, Ray (2007, April 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-0704030881apr04-archive,0,1523598,full.story Barack Obama: Showing His Bare Knuckles].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet nevertheless led to the term &amp;quot;hardball&amp;quot; by the ''New York Times''&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt; and &amp;quot;cutthroat&amp;quot; by David Mendel as reported by both ''CNN''&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; and ''MSNBC''.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; The ''Chicago Tribune'' declared Obama had mastered &amp;quot;the bare-knuckle arts of Chicago electoral politics&amp;quot;, noting &amp;quot;The man now running for president on a message of giving a voice to the voiceless first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=bareknuckle /&amp;gt; As one of Obama's four opponents, eliminated through his ballot challenges, would put it: {{cquote|&amp;quot;Why say you're for a new tomorrow, then do old-style Chicago politics to remove legitimate candidates? He talks about honor and democracy, but what honor is there in getting rid of every other candidate so you can run scot-free? Why not let the people decide?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Gha-is Askia, 1996 Illinois Senate candidate&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jackson, David &amp;amp; Long, Ray (2007, April 3). &amp;quot;[http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/obama/chi-070403obama-ballot-archive,0,5297304,full.story Obama Knows His Way Around a Ballot].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} Mark Ewell, another candidate, filed 1,286 signatures, and Obama's challenges left him 86 short of the minimum requirement (757&amp;lt;ref name=spivak&amp;gt;Spivak, Todd (2008, February 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.houstonpress.com/2008-02-28/news/barack-obama-screamed-at-me/ Barack Obama and Me].&amp;quot; ''Houston Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;). Ewell filed a federal lawsuit contesting the election board's decision but Tom Johnson intervened, and Ewell's case was dismissed just a few days later. Ewell and other Obama opponents were using early 1995 polling sheets to verify signatures of registered voters, but city authorities had just purged 15,871 unqualified people from the 13th district list, and Obama's challenges used the more recent, updated list. Askia was left 69 signatures short of the requirement. If names were printed instead of signed in cursive, they were declared invalid. If they were good but the person registering the signatures wasn't a registered voter (e.g. underage) they were invalid.&amp;lt;ref name=hardball&amp;gt;Griffin, Drew &amp;amp; Johnston, Kathleen (2008, May 29). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2008-05-29/politics/obamas.first.campaign_1_obama-campaign-barack-obama-chicago-politics?_s=PM:POLITICS Obama Played Hardball in First Chicago Campaign].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Palmer had according to Obama campaign consult Ronald Davis, used two children to help gather her petition signatures. To this day Palmer denies the challenges were valid, and maintains she could have overcome the objections with more time and resources.&amp;lt;ref name=bareknuckle /&amp;gt; Thanks to his lawyers, Obama would win the election without a single other candidate on the ballot.&lt;br /&gt;
===2000 Election===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Illinois 1st congressional district election, 2000]]''&lt;br /&gt;
In 2000, Obama lost his only political election when he chose to run against experienced incumbent and former Black Panther Bobby L. Rush for the U.S. Congress in a 65% black district. Rush's name recognition began at 90%, Obama's at 11%. As media consultant and former Rush campaign staffer Eric Adelstein noted, &amp;quot;Nobody said he’s ‘not black enough.’ They said he’s a professor, a Harvard elite who lives in Hyde Park.&amp;quot; Todd Spivak would give voice to this impression of Obama, noting that{{cquote|&amp;quot;My view of Obama then wasn't all that different from the image he projects now. He was smart, confident, charismatic and liberal. One thing I can say is, I never heard him launch into the preacher-man voice he now employs during speeches. He sounded vanilla, and activists in his mostly black district often chided him for it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt;}}Rush would go on to win the Primary with 61.02% of the vote; Obama received 30.36%.&amp;lt;ref name=streetwise /&amp;gt; The loss led to Obama considering dropping out of politics altogether, particularly after the September 11, 2001 attacks, since his name sounds similar to &amp;quot;Osama bin Laden&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Voting Record===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama entered the Illinois Senate promising change to a corrupt system. He mixed often radical votes with more pragmatic agreements. Possibly one of his most radical votes was against requiring medical care for aborted children who survive [[abortion|the procedure]] - in fact the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council ascribed him a 100% rating for his consistently pro-choice votes.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cbs illinois&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml|title=Obama Record May Be Gold Mine For Critics|work=CBS|format=HTML|language=English|last=Clark|first=Amy S.|date=Jan. 17, 2007}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He was criticized for using the statehouse as a stepping stone for a more illustrious career: Steven J. Rauschenberger, a [[Republican]], said prior to Obama's election as president: “He is a very bright but very ambitious person who has always had his eyes on the prize, and it wasn’t Springfield. If he deserves to be president, it is not because he was a great legislator.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=The New York Times|title=In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd|last=Scott|first=Janny|format=HTML|language=English|date=July 30, 2007|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The statehouse was majority Republican, so the Senator was sometimes forced to compromise. He formed allegiances across party lines to pass [[campaign finance]] reform that banned most gifts by lobbyists, prohibited spending campaign money for legislators’ personal use and required electronic filing of campaign disclosure reports.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Obama also helped pass  a so-called “driving-while-black bill”, which required the police to collect data on the race of drivers they stopped as a way to monitor [[racial profiling]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama established himself as a chief spokesperson in opposition to the [[War on Terror]] during an October 2002 rally at Federal Plaza in Chicago&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The rally was organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq (CAWI) later renamed Chicagoans Against War and Injustice. [http://www.noiraqwar-chicago.org/?page_id=2 About CAWI] by Carl Davidson, Nov 02 2006. Retrieved from Chicagoans Against War and Injustice, March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[community organizing|organized]] by veteran [[Mao]]ist and webmaster of [[Progressives for Obama]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.linkedin.com/in/carldavidson Carl Davidson,] LinkedIn.com, retrieved March 13, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Carl Davidson]]. &lt;br /&gt;
===Radical foundation and connection to William Ayers===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Radical roots of Barack Hussein Obama}}&lt;br /&gt;
In 1995 a cadre of like minded individuals gathered in the home of [[Weather Underground]] (WUO) [[terrorist]]s [[Bernardine Dohrn]] and [[William Ayers|William &amp;quot;Bill&amp;quot; Ayers]].  Dohrn,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Georgie Anne Geyer and Keyes Beach &amp;quot;Cuba: School for U.S. Radicals&amp;quot;, ''Chicago Daily News/Chicago Sun-Times'' five part series October 1970, excerpted in [http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/weather/weath1c.pdf FBI file Weather Underground Organization (Weatherman),] Part 1c pp. 5-7 pdf (113-115 in original). [http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/clandestine-agents-of-the-cuban-government-ayers-dohrn-myers/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; along with Carl Davidson, are veterans of [[guerrilla warfare]] training in [[Cuba]] prior 1968 Democratic National Convention riots.  Ayers and Dohrn have taken credit for, and never denied, bombing the [[U.S. Capitol]], the [[Pentagon]] and the [[State Department]].    &lt;br /&gt;
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Ayers and Dohrn used their celebrity status among [[leftist]]s to launch Obama's career. Ayers, Dohrn and [[Jeff Jones]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=106653 ''Obama's 'green jobs czar' worked with terror founder] Van Jones served on board of activist group where ex-Weatherman serves as top director'', By Aaron Klein, [[WorldNetDaily]], August 13, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; are authors of ''[[Bill_Ayers#Prairie_Fire_Organizing_Committee_and_Maoist_thought|Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-imperialism]],'' the title taken from ''The Sayings of Mao Zedong.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The book declares &amp;quot;we are [[communist]] men and women.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harvey Klehr, ''Far Left of Center: The American Radical Left Today'' (Transaction Books, New Brunswick, 1988), 109.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers later jokingly, publicly admitted to ghostwriting Obama's book, ''Dreams From My Father''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cashill, J. (2011, March 28). [http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/ayers_affirms_he_wrote_dreams.html Ayers Affirms He Wrote Dreams From My Father]. ''American Thinker''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and Obama was to appoint several openly avowed Maoists to prominent White House and Executive Branch positions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Fund, J. (2009, October 21). [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704597704574487431322664964.html From Mao to Obama]. ''The Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2003 Emil Jones Deal===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[2003 Barack Obama deal with Emil Jones]]''&lt;br /&gt;
When Illinois' U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald announced he would be retiring in April 2003, Obama jumped at the opportunity, declaring that he would be a candidate for the U.S. Senate in 2004.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; To boost his chances at reaching the U.S. Congress in the 2004 elections, in 2003 Barack Obama approached the newly crowned head of the Illinois Senate, Emil Jones Jr., with a proposal. According to Jones, who Obama has since called his &amp;quot;godfather&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=godfather&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2009, June 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-250_162-3983147.html Obama's Political 'Godfather' In Illinois].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the conversation went as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|&amp;quot;After I was elected president, in 2003, he came to see me, a couple months later. And he said to me, he said, ‘You’re the senate president now, and with that, you have a lot of pow-er.’  And I told Barack, ‘You think I got a lot of pow-er now?,’ and he said, ‘Yeah, you got a lot of pow-er.’ And I said, ‘What kind of pow-er do I have?’ He said, ‘You have the pow-er to make a United States sen-a-tor!’  I said to Barack, I said, ‘That sounds good!’ I said, ‘I haven’t even thought of that.’ I said, ‘Do you have someone in mind you think I could make?,’ and he said, ‘Yeah. Me.’ &amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=raisingobama /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=pragmatic /&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Because of the deal, Obama's entire Illinois Senate legislative record was, as longtime Obama reporter Todd Spivak put it, built in a single year. During his 7th and final year in the Illinois Senate, Obama sponsored an incredible 26 bills into law, including many he now points to when criticized as inexperienced&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt; - as ''CNN's'' Suzanne Malveaux observed, &amp;quot;With help from on high, Obama got his name on hundreds of bills that he pushed through.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt; Jones not only had Obama craft legislation addressing daily tragedies to raise his political profile&amp;lt;ref name=godfather /&amp;gt;, he also appointed Obama head of almost all high-profile legislation in the Illinois Senate, angering other state legislators with more seniority who'd spent years supporting the bills.&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt; Illinois State Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of the famous racial profiling bill requiring videotaped confessions in police interrogations, complained bitterly about Jones' decision.&amp;lt;ref name=revealed /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=intheblack&amp;gt;Spivak, Todd (2004, March 25). &amp;quot;[http://www.illinoistimes.com/Springfield/article-922-in-the-black.html In the Black].&amp;quot; ''Illinois Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Jones' influence had a major impact on Obama's chances in the 2004 elections, preventing major political players from backing Obama's opponents. To quote Emil Jones,{{cquote|&amp;quot;He knew if he had me in the run for the Senate, it would put a block on the current mayor. The current mayor and the father of the controller, which was Dan Hynes, they were roommates in Springfield when the mayor was a state senator, so they had a relationship. Another big financial backer for the governor was Blair Hull. Barack knew if he had me it would checkmate the governor, ’cause the governor couldn’t come out and go with Blair Hull, ’cause the governor needs me. Same with the mayor. So he had analyzed and figured all of that out. He knew I could help him with labor support. And I could put a checkmate on some of the local politicians that didn’t know him, but they couldn’t really go against me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2004-2008, U.S. Senate==&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also: [[Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Hussein_Obama#U.S._Senate_.282004-2008.29|Barack Obama:U.S. Senate (2004-2008)]], [[United States Senate election in Illinois, 2004]]''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|left|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
===2004 Primary Election===&lt;br /&gt;
Despite initially trailing in the polls to frontrunner [[Blair Hull]]&amp;lt;ref name=intheblack /&amp;gt;, Obama greatly benefited from what the ''Chicago Tribune'' called &amp;quot;the most inglorious campaign implosion in Illinois political history&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mendell&amp;gt;Mendell, David (2004, March 17). &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-03-17/news/0403170332_1_blair-hull-gery-chico-blacks-and-liberal-whites Obama Routs Democratic Foes].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; when pressure from journalists and opposing candidates, just weeks before the election, forced the unsealing of Hull's messy divorce files.&amp;lt;ref name=blairhull&amp;gt;Voegeli, William (2004, March 19). &amp;quot;[http://www.claremont.org/publications/pubid.339/pub_detail.asp The Rise and Fall of Blair Hull].&amp;quot; ''The Claremont Institute''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The files revealed Hull's ex-wife's accusations of verbal and physical abuse.&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt; Hull would afterwards criticize the media, stating, &amp;quot;As for the press, I will never read the newspaper the same way again.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=mendell /&amp;gt; Obama would go on to win the Primary with 53% of the vote.&amp;lt;ref name=blairhull /&amp;gt; Obama's unexpected victory led to him being termed a &amp;quot;rising star&amp;quot; by the media.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Howlett, Debbie (2004, March 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/2004-03-18-obama-usat_x.htm Dems See a Rising Star in Illinois Senate Candidate].&amp;quot; ''USA Today''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===2004 General Election, Jack Ryan===&lt;br /&gt;
Once again Obama found himself trailing to popular frontrunner [[Jack Ryan]], and once again a candidate's campaign imploded thanks to media intervention. In an unprecedented move, the ''Chicago Tribune'' and local TV station WLS sued to force the unsealing of Ryan's divorce files, despite opposition from both Ryan and his wife, Jeri Ryan, who in the files accused Jack Ryan of trying to coerce her to perform sex acts in public. Though Ryan advisors told him he could still win if using a negative attack on Obama, Ryan refused to engage in what he considered dirty politics.&amp;lt;ref name=abandon&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2004, June 26). &amp;quot;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/state/2004-06-25-ryan_x.htm Jack Ryan Abandons Senate Bid].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ryan then dropped out of the race (per request by the Illinois GOP&amp;lt;ref name=idealist&amp;gt;Sangwan, Rahul (2004, October 1). &amp;quot;[http://www.dartmouthindependent.com/archives/2004/10/jack_ryan_81_th.html Jack Ryan '81: The Conservative Idealist].&amp;quot; ''Dartmouth Independent''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), following which the Illinois GOP scrambled to find a replacement, leaving Obama uncontested for weeks to campaign and build up public support. On top of all this, Obama was selected to give the keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention (July 27&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Washington Post'' (2004, June 26). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19751-2004Jul27.html Illinois Senate Candidate Barack Obama].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), catapulting him into the national spotlight, and leading to further media publicity terming him a &amp;quot;rising star&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Page, Susan &amp;amp; Despoignes, Peronet (2004, July 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/president/2004-07-28-obama-speech_x.htm Rising Star Brings Democrats to Their Feet].&amp;quot; ''USA Today''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===2004 General Election, Alan Keyes===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Obama born alive controversy]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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After a number of candidates including former Chicago Bears coach Mike Ditka declined to run&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN'' (2004, August 9). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2004-08-09/politics/il.keyes_1_senate-candidate-senate-race-illinois-senate?_s=PM:ALLPOLITICS Keyes Challenges Obama for Illinois Senate Seat].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the Illinois GOP finally settled on fiery [[Alan Keyes]], a former Ambassador to the Economic and Social Counsel of the United Nations&amp;lt;ref name=spivak /&amp;gt;, with less than 3 months left before the November 2004 election.&amp;lt;ref name=msnbc /&amp;gt; His sudden entrance into the state for the election was initially attacked in the press as &amp;quot;carpetbagging&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Chicago Tribune''. &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-08-06/news/0408060313_1_mr-keyes-judy-baar-topinka-alan-keyes The GOP's Rent-A-Senator].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''Washington Post'' (2004, August 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50885-2004Aug8.html Mr. Keyes the Carpetbagger].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=pearson&amp;gt;Pearson, Rick (2004, September 5). &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-09-05/news/0409050304_1_selfish-hedonist-alan-keyes-illinois-republican-party Keyes, State GOP Gearing Up Blame Campaign].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Keyes repeatedly claimed his primary motivation for entering a race he had seemingly no chance of winning was his disgust at Obama's votes on the popular [[Born Alive]] bills.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Keyes, Alan (2004, August 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.mail-archive.com/newsandviews@chuckmuth.com/msg00699.html How You Can Help Alan Keyes for Senate!].&amp;quot; ''Keyes2004 Inc.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Keyes, from his first day of arriving in Illinois (August 9, 2004)&amp;lt;ref name=assails&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2004, August 9). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5654128/ Keyes Assails Obama's Abortion Views].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, accused Obama of having voted against bills mandating medical care for newborn children, and supporting &amp;quot;infanticide&amp;quot; (the term twice used in the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''United States Congress'' (2003, March 13). &amp;quot;[http://news.findlaw.com/wp/docs/abortion/2003s3.html S.3: Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) where hospitals left newborn infants to die like garbage.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Smiley, Tavis (2004, August 31). &amp;quot;[http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=341 Alan Keyes on the Tavis Smiley Show].&amp;quot; ''NPR''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''CBS2 Chicago'' (2004, August 30). &amp;quot;[http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=337 Alan Keyes on CBS2 Chicago This Morning].&amp;quot; This Morning.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama in a debate on October 13, 2004, defended himself against Keyes' accusations of infanticide by claiming that Illinois law was already sufficient.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Chicago Tribune'' (2004, October 13). &amp;quot;[http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2004-10-13/news/0410140004_1_alan-keyes-senate-race-first-of-three-debates Debate or Discussion?]&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However, Keyes' rhetoric, calling Obama's votes &amp;quot;the slaveholder's position&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=assails /&amp;gt; and saying &amp;quot;Jesus Christ would not vote for Obama&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Thomas, Scott (2004, September 7). &amp;quot;[http://www.keyesarchives.com/transcript.php?id=348 Alan Keyes on the Scott Thomas Show (AM1160 - WYLL)].&amp;quot; ''Scott Thomas Show''. Chicago, Illinois.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; was widely ridiculed by the press. Keyes' unabashed criticism of homosexuality as &amp;quot;selfish hedonism&amp;quot; was also targeted.&amp;lt;ref name=pearson /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press''. &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5897569/ Keyes: Cheney's Gay Daughter Practicing Selfish Hedonism].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Pallasch, Abdom M. (2004, September 2). &amp;quot;[http://web.archive.org/web/20071017122135/http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20040902/ai_n12560727 Topinka Says He Should Apologize for 'Idiotic' Comment].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Sun-Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama would ultimately win the election, 70% to 27%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN.com''. &amp;quot;[http://cnn.hu/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/IL/S/01/index.html Election Results: U.S. Senate/Illinois].&amp;quot; Election 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Voting Record===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama frequently used the [[filibuster]] to obstruct the operations of government,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;O'Keefe, E. (2010, February 4). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/03/AR2010020303801_pf.html Obama criticizes Senate Republicans for delaying confirmation votes]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; voted against the [[minimum wage]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and debt ceiling increases,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kaplan, R. (2011, April 11). [http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/obama-once-opposed-debt-ceiling-hike/237129/ Obama Once Opposed Debt Ceiling Hike]. ''The Atlantic''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and recieved more than $126,000 in campaign contributions from [[Fannie Mae]]. The ''[[National Journal]]'' ranked him the most liberal senator in 2007.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ranked&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502163_162-3775451-502163.html|title=National Journal: Obama Most Liberal Senator In 2007|author=Brian Montopoli|date=January 31, 2008|work=CBS}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2008 Presidential Election==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Barack Hussein Obama 2008 Presidential campaign}}&lt;br /&gt;
Democrats began calling for an Obama candidacy after liberals lauded his 2004 [[Democratic National Convention]] speech.&lt;br /&gt;
====Primary Election====&lt;br /&gt;
In 2007-08, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton competed for the Democratic nomination. Hillary Clinton cleverly resurrected the &amp;quot;Born Alive&amp;quot; controversy surrounding Obama that had lain largely dormant since 2004 (notwithstanding the continuing mentions by Jill Stanek), by accusing Obama of not being pro-choice for voting &amp;quot;Present&amp;quot; on a number of abortion-related bills&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bettelheim, Adriel (2008, February 13). &amp;quot;[http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/feb/13/obamas-present-tension/ Obama's 'Present' Tension].&amp;quot; ''PolitiFact''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; - including the Born Alive ones,&amp;lt;ref name=clinton&amp;gt;Berman, Russell (2008, January 17). &amp;quot;[http://www.nysun.com/national/clinton-obama-should-vote-no-on-abortion-issue/69700/ Clinton: Obama Should Vote 'No' On Abortion Issue She Backed].&amp;quot; ''New York Sun''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Hernandez, Raymond &amp;amp; Drew, Christopher (2007, December 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html?pagewanted=all It's Not Just 'Ayes' and 'Nays': Obama's Votes in Illinois Echo].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and cowardly ducking the votes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Politi-Fact''. &amp;quot;[http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/13/hillary-clinton/yes-but-its-complicated/ Response to Hillary Clinton Comment for January 21st, 2008].&amp;quot; Truth-o-Meter.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dorning, Mike (2007, December 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/12/criticism_of_obama_present_vot.html Clinton Camp Criticizes Obama 'Present' Votes].&amp;quot; The Swamp. ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This led to criticism of Obama by two pro-choice organizations, Emily's List, and the National Organization for Women.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dorning, Mike (2008, January 14). &amp;quot;[http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/01/obama_campaign_mounts_defense.html The Swamp: Obama Campaign Defends His Abortion-Rights Record].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Dorn, Michael (2008, February 6). &amp;quot;[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/02/obamas_voting_record_on_aborti_1.html Obama's Voting Record on Abortion].&amp;quot; ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Newton-Small, Jay (2008, January 14). &amp;quot;[http://swampland.time.com/2008/01/14/obama_campaign_defends_present/ Obama Campaign Defends 'Present' Abortion Votes].&amp;quot; ''Time Magazine''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, Pam Sutherland, the long-time head of Illinois Planned Parenthood, came to Obama's aid, criticizing Clinton for making the attack, and stating repeatedly that Obama's present votes were part of a broader strategy used by Planned Parenthood to keep Illinois voters from knowing their state senators were voting against the controversial and popular bills.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hernandez, Raymond &amp;amp; Drew, Christopher (2007, December 20). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20cnd-obama.html?_r=2&amp;amp;hp&amp;amp;oref=slogin Obama's Vote in Illinois Was Often Just 'Present'].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Follmer, Max (2008, March 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/14/obama-emphasizes-prochoic_n_81460.html Obama Emphasizes Pro-Choice Voting Record as Clinton Questions 'Present' Votes].&amp;quot; ''Huffington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|&amp;quot;He came to me and said: ‘My members are being attacked. We need to figure out a way to protect members and to protect women. A ‘present’ vote was hard to pigeonhole which is exactly what Obama wanted. What it did was give cover to moderate Democrats who wanted to vote with us but were afraid to do so&amp;quot; because of how their votes would be used against them electorally. A ‘present’ vote would protect them. Your senator voted ‘present.’ Most of the electorate is not going to know what that means.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Pam Sutherland, President/CEO of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, 1980-2012&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Davis, Teddy (2007, July 17). &amp;quot;[http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2007/07/obama-abortion/ Obama Abortion Dodges Blessed by Planned Parenthood], ''ABC News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}Clinton also made the claim repeatedly that while Obama was leading in Delegates she was winning the Popular Vote&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Koffler, Daniel (2008, May 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-koffler/hillary-clinton-and-the-p_b_103913.html Hillary Clinton and the Popular Vote: Not Wrong, but Meaningless].&amp;quot; ''Huffington Post''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Barone, Michael (2008, March 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/barone/2008/03/28/projection-clinton-wins-popular-vote-obama-wins-delegate-count Projection: Clinton Wins Popular Vote, Obama Wins Delegate Vote].&amp;quot; ''U.S. News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, though this was in part because Obama hadn't been registered in Michigan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Romano, Andrew (2008, August 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/blogs/stumper/2008/06/02/clinton-s-popular-vote-claim-close-but-not-quite.html Clinton's Popular Vote Claim? Close--But Not Quite*].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''RealClearPolitics''. &amp;quot;[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html 2008 Democratic Popular Vote].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's advantage with super-delegates over Clinton was about 2-to-1.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Cite web|title=Superdelegate endorsements for Friday 6/6|work=Democratic Convention Watch|url=http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/superdelegate-endorsements-for-friday.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama was able to attract the support of [[liberals]] by pointing out that he had come out against the [[Iraq War]] &amp;quot;from the beginning&amp;quot; whereas Clinton had voted in favor of the war in 2002.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-31-democrats-debate_N.htm|title=Obama, Clinton stress differences on Iraq, issues|author=David Jackson|work=USA Today|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On June 7, 2008, Hillary Clinton withdrew from the Primaries, conceding the race and endorsing her opponent&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press''. &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24993082/ns/politics-decision_08/t/clinton-ends-historic-bid-endorses-obama/ Clinton Ends Historic Bid, Endorses Obama].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, when Obama passed the 2,118 Delegates required; winning 2,201 delegates to Clinton's 1,896.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN''. &amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/#D Election Center 2008].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Born Alive Record Resurfaces====&lt;br /&gt;
On June 30, 2008, Obama's voting record on the &amp;quot;Born Alive&amp;quot; bills came once more to the forefront when CNN gave voice to the growing controversy and revealed the defense Obama had been using since 2004-2008, that the Illinois bills he'd voted against were different from the federal bill, was false, since he'd brought up for a vote a bill word for word identical to the federal bill in the Health and Human Services Committee he chaired, and voted against it, defeating it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN''. &amp;quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY How He Really Voted on Abortion: Obama's Record Under Attack].&amp;quot; ''The Situation Room''. Uploaded to ''YouTube'' by Jill Stanek.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''CNN''. &amp;quot;[http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0806/30/sitroom.02.html Transcripts: June 30, 2008].&amp;quot; The Situation Room.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This led in August to a confrontation between Obama and the [[NRLC]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''National Right to Life Committee''. &amp;quot;[http://www.nrlc.org/news/2008/NRL08/ObamaCoverup.html Obama Cover-up Revealed on Born-Alive Abortion Survivor's Bill].&amp;quot; NRL News, Vol. 35, Issue 7-8, pg. 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After Obama accused critics of 'lying'&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brody, David (2008, August 16). &amp;quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Skq5M1Ksp_c McCain/Obama Forum].&amp;quot; ''CNN''. Uploaded to ''YouTube'' by Jill Stanek.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;David Brody (August 16, 2008). &amp;quot;[http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2008/08/16/obama-gets-heated-on-born-alive-infant-protection-act.aspx Obama Gets Heated on Born Alive Infant Protection Act].&amp;quot; ''CBN News''. The Brody File.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the NRLC challenged the assertion, and the Obama campaign conceded he &amp;quot;misspoke&amp;quot; and had voted against an identical bill to the &amp;quot;federal bill that everybody supported&amp;quot; but focused on Obama's new claim, that Illinois law was already sufficient to protect newborn children.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Berman, Russell (2008, August 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.nysun.com/national/obama-facing-attacks-from-all-sides-over-abortion/84059/ Obama Facing Attacks From All Sides Over Abortion Record].&amp;quot; ''New York Sun''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The NRLC promptly declared &amp;quot;Senator Barack Obama's four-year effort to cover up his full role in killing legislation to protect born-alive survivors of abortions continues to unravel.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Johnson, Douglas (2008, August 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/Obamacoveruponbornalive.htm Obama Cover-up on Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Continues to Unravel After Sen. Obama Says NRLC is 'Lying'].&amp;quot; ''National Right to Life Committee''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Jeremiah Wright====&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also: [[Barack Obama and Liberation Theology]]''&lt;br /&gt;
One major dilemma that arose for Obama during his campaign was his connection to his preacher [[Jeremiah Wright]]. Obama and his wife (raised a Baptist) were members of the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776246/posts&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago, a church that embraced [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering so-called &amp;quot;oppressed groups&amp;quot; against &amp;quot;establishment forces&amp;quot;. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Church pastor Jeremiah Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statement &amp;quot;G-d damn America,&amp;quot; and in describing the September 11th attacks, &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being [[anti-Semitic]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In April 2008, after 20 years in the church, candidate Obama made public statements poised to set him at odds with the man who conducted his wedding and baptized his children. With the negative publicity persisting, a month later Obama ended the friendship, left Wright's church, and blamed the media.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, May 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama claimed “It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;, and distanced himself from  Wright's sermons  as &amp;quot;a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in the truth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;USA TODAY, ''Obama breaks with former pastor, Candidate cites rants on U.S. role in terror, AIDS'', by Kathy Kiely and David Jackson [http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080430/1a_offlede30_dom.art.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Obama Says He Is Outraged By Wright's &amp;quot;Rants&amp;quot;''[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080430.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Result====&lt;br /&gt;
Obama made an effort to portray John McCain as similar to George W. Bush, drawing attention to McCain's refusal to criticize the unpopular president. McCain was particularly criticized for saying of how many years we should be willing to stay in Iraq, &amp;quot;Make it a hundred.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dobbs, Michael (2008, April 2). &amp;quot;[http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2008/04/mccains_100year_war.html FactChecker: McCain's '100-Year War'].&amp;quot; ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{cquote|&amp;quot;John McCain went on television and said that there has been great progress economically over the last seven-and-a-half years. John McCain thinks our economy has made great progress under George W. Bush? How could somebody who has been traveling across this country, somebody who came to Erie, Pennsylvania, say we’ve made great progress?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Barack Obama&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zeleny, Jeff (2008, April 18). &amp;quot;[http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/18/obama-criticizes-mccain-on-economic-stance/ Obama Criticizes McCain on Economic Stance].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} On August 22nd, Obama selected [[Joe Biden]] as his running mate for the vice presidency&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CNN'' (2008, August 23). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2008-08-23/politics/biden.democrat.vp.candidate_1_biden-john-mccain-barack-obama?_s=PM:POLITICS Obama Introduces Biden as Running Mate].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which would be contrasted one week later with John McCain's selection of [[Sarah Palin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cooper, Michael &amp;amp; Bumiller, Elisabeth (2008, August 29). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/us/politics/29palin.html?pagewanted=all Alaskan is McCain's Choice; First Woman on G.O.P. Ticket]. ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On November 2, 2008, Barack Obama won the presidential election with 365 electoral votes to John McCain's 173.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2008, November 14). &amp;quot;[http://elections.nytimes.com/2008/results/president/explorer.html Electoral Explorer].&amp;quot; Election Results 2008. ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama received 53% of the popular vote to John McCain's 46%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2008, November 17). &amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/ President].&amp;quot; Election Center 2008. ''CNN''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2009-2012, U.S. Presidency==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Obama administration}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Obama and George H. W. Bush.jpg|thumb|right|300px|President Barack Obama meets with former President George H. W. Bush in the Oval Office, Feb. 15, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Under Obama's stewardship the United States has suffered the largest [[Federal budget deficit|deficit]]s&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Edwards, B. et. al. (2009, November 6). [http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10708/11-06-mbr.htm Monthly Budget Review: Fiscal Year 2009]. ''Congressional Budget Office''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Delisle, E.C. et. al. (2010, November 5). [http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/118xx/doc11873/NovemberMBR.pdf Monthly Budget Review: Fiscal Year 2010]. ''Congressional Budget Office''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in history and a credit downgrade from the rating agency Standard &amp;amp; Poor.  However, during the Obama Administration the national deficit has increased at a much lower rate than during the Bush Administration. Most observers attribute the deficits to increasing benefits and welfare paid out on account of the recession he inherited and has failed to end along with decreasing tax receipts.  Standard &amp;amp; Poor decided to downgrade U.S. government debt after the debt ceiling debate debacle, where Congressional leaders refused to pass a bill authorizing borrowing to pay for the budget they had passed with much debate and controversy earlier in the year.  Cynics have argued that rhetoric directed at the rating agencies about the issuance of AAA ratings to junk real estate bonds spurred the downgrade as a form of retribution.  Ironically, the investor scare led to the flocking of investors to the safe haven of the Treasury bonds which had been downgraded, resulting in lower interest rates.  As there are very few AAA bond markets, investors will likely continue to buy U.S. government debt for the foreseeable future.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Greenwald, A. (2011, April 18). [http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/04/18/the-sp-outlook-and-obama/ The S&amp;amp;P Outlook and Obama]. ''Commentary Magazine''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When his [[economic stimulus]] program was adopted unemployment rose and stagnated in the 10% range, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Di Leo, L &amp;amp; Lynch, S.N. (2010, August 20). [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704476104575439172480870774.html Jobless Claims Jump in New Sign Recovery is Sputtering]. ''The Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; leaving tens of millions without [[hope]] of finding a job.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bureau of Labor Statistics. [http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&amp;amp;series_id=LNS11300000&amp;amp;years_option=specific_years&amp;amp;include_graphs=true&amp;amp;to_month=1&amp;amp;from_month=2 Databases, Tables &amp;amp; Calculators by Subject: Labor Force Statistics from the Current Population Survey]. ''United States Department of Labor''. Data extracted on: July 19, 2010 (4:31:11 PM).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen, writing in the [[Wall Street Journal]], noted, &amp;quot;Rather than being a unifier, Mr. Obama has divided America on the basis of race, class and partisanship.&amp;quot; The commentators also note Obama's approach to governance has encouraged radical leftists to pursue a similar strategy on his behalf. Mary Frances Berry, former head of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, acknowledged that the [[Obama administration]] has taken to polarizing America around the issue of race as a means of diverting attention from other issues, saying, &amp;quot;Having one's opponent [[race card|rebut charges of racism]] is far better than discussing [[Unemployment|joblessness]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Berry, M.F. (2010, July 20). [http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Mary_Frances_Berry_91E3D9D5-C40D-440C-9D48-1C50CBC60C87.html Energy Arena, Driving the Conversation: Contracting Out U.S. Security? And will Branding Tea Party Racist Work?] ''Politico''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Caddell and Schoen, who worked for President Carter and Clinton, respectively, further stated, &amp;quot;Mr. Obama has also cynically [[class warfare|divided the country on class lines]]. He has taken to playing the populist card time and time again. He bashes Wall Street and insurance companies whenever convenient to advance his programs, yet he has been eager to accept campaign contributions and negotiate with these very same banks and [[corporation]]s behind closed doors in order to advance his political agenda... President Obama's divisive approach to governance has weakened us as a people and paralyzed our political culture.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Caddell, P.H. &amp;amp; Schoen, D.E. (2010, July 28). [http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748703700904575391553798363586.html Our Divisive President]. ''The Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Domestic policy===&lt;br /&gt;
====Popular bills====&lt;br /&gt;
Obama's first act of office was to sign the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act - effectively nullifying the [[Supreme Court]] case ''Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire &amp;amp; Rubber Co.'', which ruled that Ledbetter had to have filed a pay [[discrimination]] suit within 180 days of the first time Ledbetter was paid less than her male peers;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/politics/30ledbetter-web.html|work=The New York Times|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obama Signs Equal-Pay Legislation|author=Sheryl Gay Stolberg|date=January 29, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the law made corporations subject to suit within 180 days of each time the employee was unfairly paid.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://writ.news.findlaw.com/grossman/20090213.html?=features|work=FindLaw|author=Joanna L. Grossman|date=Feb. 13, 2009|format=HTML|language=English|title=The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On January 2, 2011, Obama signed the James Zadroga [[9/11]] Healthcare and Compensation Act.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2011/jan/02/obama-signs-zadroga-act-law/|publisher=New York Public Radio|title=Obama Signs Zadroga Act into Law|author=Fred Mogul|date=January 02, 2011|work=wNYC|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The act, which afforded 9/11 first responders who were sickened by the dust from the collapse of the [[World Trade Center]] health care and compensation, passed [[Congress]] after its sponsored agreed to scale down the pricing from 7.4 to 4.2 billion dollars.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/dec/22/zadroga-911-bill-passes-senate/|publisher=New York Public Radio|work=wNYC|format=HTML|language=English|title=Congress Approves 9/11 Health Bill|date=December 22, 2010}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Economic policy====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Keynes.jpg|thumbnail|right|190px|[[Barack Obama]] advocates the use of discredited [[Keynesian economics|Keynesian economic concepts]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://centurean2.wordpress.com/2011/03/20/fabian-john-maynard-keynes-the-stealthy-enemy-of-human-freedom/ John Maynard Keynes the stealthy enemy of human freedom]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-02-22/deathbed-of-keynesian-economics-will-be-in-u-k-matthew-lynn.html Deathbed of Keynesian Economics will be in the UK]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.iwf.org/inkwell/show/23102.html Will the G8 Repudiate the Philosophy of Living Beyond Our Means?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.keynesatharvard.org/book/KeynesatHarvard-ch09.html KEYNES AT HARVARD Economic Deception as a Political Credo BY ZYGMUND DOBBS]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{see also|Obamunism|American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009}}&lt;br /&gt;
Critics of the Obama administration have coined the word &amp;quot;[[Obamunism]]&amp;quot; to describe Barack Obama's [[socialism|socialistic]] and &amp;quot;[[fascism]] light&amp;quot; [[economic planning]] policies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Benito Mussolini]] defined fascism as the wedding of state and corporate powers.  Accordingly, trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] labels [[Obama administration corporate bailouts|Obama's corporate bailouts]] as being &amp;quot;fascism light&amp;quot; in nature.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/daily-intel/2009/07/20/obamunism-inc|work=The Big Money|publisher=WashingtonPost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obamunism, Inc.|author=David Sessions|date=July 20, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.smallbusinessadvocate.com/small-business-interviews/gerald-celente-6944|author=Jim Blasingame|title=Is the government creating a bailout bubble?}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obamunism can also refer to Obama's [[Obama administration fiscal policy|ruinous fiscal policies]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|reckless monetary policies]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gerard&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching|title=Monetary Policy-Not Obama's Stimulus-Is What Needs Watching|author=Gerard Jackson|date=February 16, 2009|work=Seeking Alpha}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bam&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=New York Post|date=May 17, 2009|url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm|title=BAM'S WISE WORDS}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/|title=Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures|work=The Foundry|publisher=The Heritage Foundation|author=Conn Carroll|date=March 24th, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  As seen in his own actions, Barack Obama instructed his advisors to find loopholes that would enable the president to act as a [[dictator]] by pushing through legislation and increases in spending without congressional authority.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Naked Emperor News (2011, October 12). [http://www.theblaze.com/stories/executive-dictatorship-obama-instructs-advisers-to-push-through-stimulus-projects-without-pesky-congressional-authorization/ Exclusive Dictatorship: Obama Instructs Advisors to Push Through Stimulus Projects Without Pesky 'Congressional Authorization']. ''The Blaze''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, budgets passed under President Obama have included the smallest average annualized growth of federal spending (1.4%) since before President Reagan. Federal spending grew an average of 8.7% per year during Reagan's first term and an average of 8.1% per year during George W. Bush's second term.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/05/24/who-is-the-smallest-government-spender-since-eisenhower-would-you-believe-its-barack-obama/|title=Who Is The Smallest Government Spender Since Eisenhower? Would You Believe It's Barack Obama?|publisher=Forbes|author=Rick Ungar|date=May 24th, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wall Street]] firms and banks that were bailed out were among Obama's biggest campaign supporters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''OpenSecrets.org''. [http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&amp;amp;cid=N00009638 Barack Obama: Top Contributors]. The Center for Responsive Politics.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Therefore, the Obama administration bailouts of corrupt, unproductive, and reckless Wall Street firms was hardly surprising, and many argue that it was not helpful in making the United States economy more productive and prosperous by encouraging more risk taking through letting banks off with a slap on the wrist.  Others argue that bailing out the banks kept credit flowing and prevented a much deeper recession and a total collapse of the financial system.  The government will recoup some though not all of its capital infusions over time.  A 2005 study found that government corporate bailouts are often done for mere political considerations and the economic resources allocated exhibit significantly worse economic performance than resources allocated using purely business considerations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Faccio, M. et. al. (2005, March 1). [http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=676905 Political Connections and Corporate Bailouts]. ''Social Science Research Network''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Proponents of [[free market]] capitalism said Bernanke should not have bailed out failing firms and instead should have allowed free market capitalism to quickly recover as it did in the depression of 1920 without government intervention (free market capitalists assert that government intervention drags out economic recessions and depressions).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Woods, T.E. (2009, April 10). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI Why You've Never Heard of the Great Depression of 1920]. ''Ludwig Von Mises Institute''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Top trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] predicts that the corrupt economic policies of the Obama administration will lead to a second [[Great Depression|great depression]] (Celente predicted the 1987 US stock market crash, the dot.com crash, the US 2008/2009 recession, and the collapse of the USSR in the early 1990s) and may lead to a &amp;quot;second [[American Revolution]]&amp;quot; (Celente predicted the [[Tea Party Movement|tax protests]] that are now occurring in America).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 1). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&amp;amp;feature=channel_page pt 2/2 Gerald Celente on Financial Sense Newshour Aug 1st 2009]. ''Financial Sense Newshour''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 2). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&amp;amp;feature=response_watch ]. ''Financial Sense Newshour''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Celente also asserts that the costly and inefficient temporary short term methods that the Obama administration is using to alleviate economic problems in the short term (which is causing massive increases in [[Obama administration deficit spending]]) is only making matters worse and will not prevent the worse economic depression in United States history from occurring.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 11). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8K7rWkGGw pt 1/2 Gerald Celente on Howestreet.com 11 Aug 2009]. ''HoweStreet.com''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Celente, G. (2009, August 11). [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBffdIW0XA&amp;amp;feature=response_watch pt 2/2 Gerald Celente on Howestreet.com 11 Aug 2009]. ''HoweStreet.com''. Hosted on ''YouTube''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama administration has been sharply criticized for [[Obama administration deficit spending|its massive deficit spending]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|its reckless monetary policy]] via vast increases in the [[money supply]], although inflation under Bernanke has been below the historic mean.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gerard&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bam&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carroll, C. (2009, March 24). [http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/ Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures]. ''The Foundry''. The Heritage Network.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Celente predicts that if a &amp;quot;second American Revolution&amp;quot; occurs in a peaceful and productive manner, it may include a [[Third Party System|third party movement]] of governance that will advocate a more [[free market]] [[capitalism]] approach to the American economy and a more strict interpretation of the [[United States Constitution|United States constitution]] as far as the authors' [[original intent]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente1&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente2&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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During what the [[White House]] billed as [[Recovery Summer]], one half million workers per week continued losing their jobs. His signature legislative achievement, [[ObamaCare]],has been found to be [[unconstitutional]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Schoenberg, T. &amp;amp; Fisk, M.T. (2010, December 13). [http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-13/u-s-health-care-law-requirement-thrown-out-by-judge.html Obama's Health-Care Law Ruled Unconstitutional Over Insurance Requirement]. ''Bloomberg''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; by several judges and constitutional by others, and is credited as a major cause of uncertainty, high [[unemployment]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33220&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; lagging job creation,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foster, J.D. (2010, August 5). [http://blog.heritage.org/2010/08/05/it%E2%80%99s-official-medicare%E2%80%99s-finances-shadowed-by-uncertainty/ It’s Official: Medicare’s Finances Shadowed by Uncertainty]. ''The Foundry''. The Heritage Network.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and risk of a credit default crisis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Samuelson, R.J. (2010, March 29). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/28/AR2010032802353.html With health bill, Obama has sown the seeds of a budget crisis]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cramer, J. (2010, March 16). [http://www.thestreet.com/story/10703361/cramer-obamacare-will-topple-the-market.html Cramer: Obamacare Will Topple the Market]. ''The Street''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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His 2012 Budget plan has been roundly criticized in the mainstream and liberal press as not a serious effort to deal with the nation's economic crisis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=blogs.view&amp;amp;blog_id=1551d6f5-2ac9-4b8d-97ab-74def354024e Newspapers Call Out White House: ‘What Would That Path Be, Mr. President?’]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeffrey Tucker]] wrote, &amp;quot;President Obama's economic policy has been catastrophic for liberty, enterprise, and the American dream—the very archetype of what not to do to end recession.&amp;quot; [http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1118186176/ref=as_li_tf_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;tag=anncoulter-20&amp;amp;linkCode=as2&amp;amp;camp=1789&amp;amp;creative=9325&amp;amp;creativeASIN=1118186176]&lt;br /&gt;
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====2009 Stimulus====&lt;br /&gt;
In early 2009, Obama lobbied Congress and the public to pass sweeping Stimulus legislation for the ailing economy&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, January 3). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28479998/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-urges-congress-pass-stimulus-plan/ Obama Urges Congress to Pass Stimulus Plan].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Parsons, C. &amp;amp; Nicholas, P. (2009, February 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28479998/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-urges-congress-pass-stimulus-plan/ Barack Obama Sternly Urges Congress to Pass Economic Stimulus].&amp;quot; ''Chicago Tribune''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; known as ''The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009'' (H.R. 1)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.R.1: Bill Text Versions: H.R. 1].&amp;quot; 111th Congress (2009-2010). ''Library of Congress''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009: Information Center].&amp;quot; ''IRS''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, ignoring a report by the Congressional Budget Office that the legislation would ultimately harm the economy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dinan, S. (2009, February 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/04/cbo-obama-stimulus-harmful-over-long-haul/ CBO: Obama Stimulus Harmful Over Long Haul].&amp;quot; ''U.S. News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Contrary to his earlier promises of bipartisanship&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dinan, S. (2009, March 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/mar/28/mccain-obama-breaks-campaign-promises-shuns-bipart/?page=all McCain: Obama Breaks Promise of Bipartisanship].&amp;quot; ''Washington Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the bill passed the House 244-188 without a single Republican vote on January 28, 2009,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Calmes, J. (2009, January 28). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/29/us/politics/29obama.html House Passes Stimulus Plan With No G.O.P. Votes].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and received just 3 Republican votes when passing the Senate 61-37.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Herszenhorn, D.M. (2009, February 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/washington/11web-stim.html Senate Approves Stimulus Plan].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; One third of the massive $838 billion bill consisted of tax cuts&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, February 11). &amp;quot;Senate Passes $838 Billion Stimulus Bill].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the rest spending on &amp;quot;just about every pent-up Democratic proposal of the last 40 years.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, January 28). &amp;quot;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123310466514522309.html A 40-Year Wish List].&amp;quot; ''Wall Street Journal''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In responding to criticism of the broken bipartisanship promise at the time, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi famously quipped, &amp;quot;We won the election. We wrote the bill.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kane, P. (2009, January 23). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/22/AR2009012203961.html Stimulus Plan Meets More GOP Resistance].&amp;quot; ''Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On February 18, 2009, the Stimulus was signed into law by Obama.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, February 17). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29231790/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-stimulus-lets-americans-claim-destiny/ Obama: Stimulus Lets Americans Claim Destiny].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In August 2009, Republicans and Democratic Senator David Obey drew attention to mistakes on the Recovery.gov site claiming Stimulus jobs created that didn't exist. Obama responded by saying the errors just indicate the accounting is an &amp;quot;inexact science&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2009, November 18). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/18/obama-calls-stimulus-data-errors-issue-says-focus-job-growth/ Obama Calls Stimulus Data Errors 'Side Issue,' Says Focus Is on Job Growth].&amp;quot; ''FOX News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Healthcare====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Obamacare}}&lt;br /&gt;
On March 23, 2010, Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA). The act had originated in the House of Representatives and passed September 17, 2009. The act was amended and passed the Senate prior to [[Democrat]] [[Ted Kennedy]]'s passing along party lines - just a filibuster-proof majority at 60-39. In what can be construed as a de facto rejection of the bill, [[Massachusetts]] voters elected a [[Republican]] candidate, [[Scott Brown]], who promised to vote against the bill,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/scott-brown-wins-massachusetts-senate-race.html|work=The Washington Post|author=Chris Cillizza|date=January 19, 2010|title=Scott Brown wins Massachusetts Senate special election race|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but another Senate vote would not occur.  Scott Brown was also an excellent campaigner and judged to be a better candidate than his rival, Martha Coakley.  He has since achieved one of the most moderate senate voting records, likely to avoid the anger of his mostly liberal constituency.  After Obama made a promise to issue an [[executive order]] that would ultimately prohibit the use of taxpayer subsidies to pay for [[abortion]] services,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/22/nation/la-na-healthcare-passage22-2010mar22/3|work=The Los Angeles Times|format=HTML|language=English|title=House passes historic healthcare overhaul|date=March 22, 2010|author=Noam N. Levey and Janet Hook}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the [[House of Representatives]] would pass the bill as it left the Senate 219-212, with 34 Democrats and all other parties dissenting.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.cnn.com/2010-03-21/politics/health.care.main_1_health-care-entire-house-democratic-caucus-pre-existing-conditions?_s=PM:POLITICS|date=March 21, 2010|author=Alan Silverleib|work=CNN|format=HTML|language=English|title=House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Amongst other things, the act mandates that the population purchase health care coverage or face punitive tax measures, and on this basis has been constitutionally challenged in the federal courts, with mixed results (three courts have upheld the act, two have declared it unconstitutional); thus, the Act is likely destined for [[Supreme Court]] reviewal.  Plans originally proposed involved instituting a universal public insurance program, that is, extending Medicare to everyone.  The universal mandate included in the act was originally a conservative idea that was enacted in Massachusetts under Republican Mitt Romney.  Its supporters note that having health insurance results in reduced costs in paying for treatment of uninsured and forcing people to take responsibility for their healthcare.  Due to ethical constraints, doctors cannot deny care to poor patients, resulting in the hospital and the healthcare system at large bearing the cost.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Gulf oil spill====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster}}&lt;br /&gt;
President Obama authorized offshore oil drilling in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0430/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-imperils-Obama-s-offshore-drilling-plan Gulf of Mexico oil spill imperils Obama's offshore drilling plan,] By Mark Clayton, ''Christian Science Monitor'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stating, &amp;quot;oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;White House Press Release, [http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-a-discussion-jobs-and-economy-charlotte-north-carolina Remarks by the President in a Discussion on Jobs and the Economy in Charlotte, North Carolina,] Office of the Press Secretary, April 02, 2010. Retrieved from whitehouse.gov 3 May 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was widely criticized for his mishandling of the &amp;quot;[[Gulf oil spill disaster|worst environmental disaster]] in US history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m4d29-Worst-environmental-disaster-in-US-history-Oil-slick-in-Gulf-of-Mexico-is-set-on-fire Worst environmental disaster in US history,] Maryann Tobin, ''Examiner'', April 29, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/the-oil-spill-is-obamas-fault/?src=twt&amp;amp;twt=NytimesKrugman Conscience of a Liberal: The Oil Spill Is Obama’s Fault,] Paul Krugman, ''New York Times'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
====Don't Ask Don't Tell====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Don't Ask Don't Tell}}&lt;br /&gt;
Candidate Obama promised to repeal a policy that originated in the Clinton era that prohibited inquiries into military personnel's [[sexual orientation]] while also barring &amp;quot;out&amp;quot; [[homosexuals]] from serving in the military. [[Liberals]] expressed anger when time passed and no effort to repeal the law was seen;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/obama-to-delay-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell/|work=The Washington Times|format=HTML|title=Obama to delay ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ repeal|language=English|author=Rowan Scarborough|date=November 21, 2008}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in fact, Obama's [[justice department]], as part of their duty to defend all laws passed by any administration, filed a brief arguing against the [[Supreme Court]] granting a [[writ of certiorari]] to a gay soldier challenging the law (the writ was not granted). In response, the soldier, James Pietrangelo II, a former Army infantryman and lawyer, said, “[Obama's] a coward, a bigot and a pathological liar. This is a guy who spent more time picking out his dog, Bo, and playing with him on the White House lawn than he has working for equality for gay people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=Time Magazine|publisher=Time Inc.|format=HTML|url=http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1903545,00.html?imw=Y|title=Dismay Over Obama's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Turnabout|author=Mark Thompson|date=Jun. 09, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On December 15th, 2010, a bill was introduced in the [[House of Representatives]] to repeal the law - it passed a day later by a vote of 250-175;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll638.xml|title=FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 638|format=HTML|work=Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; it passed the Senate three days later 65-31.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00281|work=The U.S. Senate|title=U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 111th Congress - 2nd Session|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama signed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 on December 22nd.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;g dadt&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/22/obama-repeals-dont-ask-dont-tell|work=The Guardian|format=HTML|language=English|title='Don't ask, don't tell' repealed as Obama signs landmark law|date=22 December 2010}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Pentagon]] itself could not immediately implement the repeal and questioned whether it would hurt combat readiness.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;g dadt&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Senator [[John McCain]], the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, opposed the bill, saying &amp;quot;It may be premature to make such a change at this time and in this manner, without further consideration of this report and further study of the issue by Congress – for of all the people we serve, one of our highest responsibilities is to the men and women of our armed services, especially those risking their lives in combat.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/mccain-on-dont-ask-dont-tell-dont-rush/|title=McCain on ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’: Don’t Rush|date=December 2nd, 2010|format=HTML|author=David M. Herszenhorn|language=English|work=The New York Times}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Foreign policy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Western Wall Obama.jpg|thumb|left|320px|At [[Western Wall]], Jerusalem, 2008.]]&lt;br /&gt;
As Senator, Obama was highly critical of President Bush and promised change. As President, Obama has tripled down in Afghanistan, widened the war into Pakistan, multiplied drone attacks, bombed Yemen and Somalia, and started an undeclared NATO war in Libya. On presidential war powers, surveillance questions, Guantanamo, detention policy and habeas corpus, Obama has similarly stayed the course, or expanded Bush's precedents. In a speech on May 19, 2011 Obama fully embraced the [[Bush Doctrine]] of preventative war.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Krauthammer, C. (April 19). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-news-in-obamas-speech/2011/05/19/AF4dFN7G_story.html The News in Obama's Speech]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'The New America Foundation, which tracks the strikes, has listed 23 raids since the beginning of April, 2011, all but one in Pakistan’s tribal regions of North and South Waziristan. A June 20 attack was reported in Kurram, an area north of North Waziristan along the Afghanistan border.'&lt;br /&gt;
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'The drone program has become increasingly controversial as the Obama administration has expanded its use beyond the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Lethal missiles have been launched from unmanned aircraft in at least five countries in addition to Pakistan: Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, and, most recently, Somalia. The military’s Joint Special Operations Command used a drone last June to attack what officials said were two senior members of the Al Shabab militant group on the Somali coast.'  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;DeYoung, K. (2011, July 4).  [http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/articles/2011/07/04/cia_halts_drone_launches_from_pakistan_base/ CIA Halts Drone Launches From Pakistan Base]. ''The Boston Globe''. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'Obama is commendable when he says he wants to avoid war. His policies, however, favor war by destabilizing the Middle East making it extremely hostile and favoring radical Islam over America’s ally, Israel, and American interests in the region... The president has chosen a very dangerous path for every American and one that promises great difficulty for Israel.' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.thejerusalemconnection.us/blog/2012/03/14/obamas-words-disguise-his-israel-foreign-policy-actions.html Obama's words disguise his Israel foreign policy actions.] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Commander-in-chief====&lt;br /&gt;
By Obama's third year as Commander-in-Chief, over 1200 American troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan - significantly more than the number who died during President [[George W. Bush]]'s term of office.  And growing numbers of civilian contractors also have fallen. In the first half of 2010, 250 contractors reportedly died in Iraq and Afghanistan - more than the 235 military personnel who fell during the same period.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/05/24/114662/what-price-war.html#ixzz1Nz07pg5O&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====National Defense=====&lt;br /&gt;
President Obama signed into U.S. law the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), only after his administration successfully lobbied to remove language from the bill that would have protected American citizens from being detained indefinitely without trial.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Aaron Dykes. [http://www.infowars.com/president-obamas-ndaa-signing-statement-i-have-the-power-to-detain-americans-but-i-wont/ Obama’s Signing Statement on NDAA: I have the power to detain Americans… but I won’t], Infowars.com, January 1, 2012. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After the legislation cleared Congress, the ACLU commented that if President Obama signed the bill it &amp;quot;will damage both his legacy and American’s reputation for upholding the rule of law,&amp;quot; while executive director of the ''Human Rights Watch'' blasted the President for being ‘on the wrong side of history,’ noting that &amp;quot;Obama will go down in history as the president who enshrined indefinite detention without trial in US law.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;President Decides to Sign Ill-Conceived National Defense Authorization Act. [http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/12/14/us-refusal-veto-detainee-bill-historic-tragedy-rights US: Refusal to Veto Detainee Bill A Historic Tragedy for Rights], ''Human Rights Watch'', December 14, 2011. &amp;lt;br&amp;gt;[http://www.aclu.org/national-security/white-house-backs-away-defense-bill-veto-threat White House Backs Away from Defense Bill Veto Threat], ''[[ACLU]]'', December 14, 2011.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Section 1031 of the NDAA bill, which itself defines the entirety of the United States as a “battlefield,” allows American citizens to be snatched from the streets, carted off to a foreign detention camp and held indefinitely without trial. As reported by Infowars.com, the bill states that “any person who has committed a belligerent act” faces indefinite detention, but no trial or evidence has to be presented, the White House merely needs to make the accusation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Paul Joseph Watson. [http://www.infowars.com/obama-administration-demanded-power-to-indefinitely-detain-u-s-citizens/ Obama Administration Demanded Power To Indefinitely Detain U.S. Citizens], Infowars.com, December 12, 2011.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;S.1867 [http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/F?c112:2:./temp/~c1122VN0Iv:e548990: National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 (Engrossed in Senate [Passed Senate] - ES)], ''The Library of Congress'' THOMAS, 112th Congress (2011-2011), Accessed January 25, 2012.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Text of S.1867 - National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012. [http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-s1867/text?version=es&amp;amp;nid=t0:es:281 Sec. 1031. Affirmation of authority of the Armed Forces of the United States to detain covered persons pursuant to the Authorization for Use of Military Force.], [[U.S. Congress]], ''OpenCongress.org'', (Accessed January 25, 2012).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====2009-2011 Iraq Troop Withdrawal=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Operation Iraqi Freedom}}&lt;br /&gt;
On February 10, 2007, Barack Obama announced his campaign for the U.S. presidency while stating he had a &amp;quot;''plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 2008.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=announcement&amp;gt;(2007, February 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/10/AR2007021000879.html Illinois Sen. Barack Obama's Announcement Speech].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Later, Obama campaigned on having troops entirely out of Iraq within 16 months, but in February 2009 revised this promise to withdrawing all but 35-50 thousand troops by December 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Barry, J. (2009, February 25). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2009/02/25/reality-on-the-ground.html Reality on the Ground].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, some of the newly withdrawn troops were simply redirected from Iraq to Afghanistan - Obama in Summer 2009 ordered 21,000 troops to Afghanistan.&amp;lt;ref name=amanpour&amp;gt;Amanpour, C. (2009, April 29). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-29/politics/amanpour.obama.foreign.policy_1_president-obama-obama-administration-iraq?_s=PM:POLITICS Amanpour: Obama's 100 Days of Foreign Affairs].&amp;quot; ''CNN Politics''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{cquote|&amp;quot;But all of this cannot come to pass until we bring an end to this war in Iraq. Most of you know I opposed this war from the start. I thought it was a tragic mistake. Today we grieve for the families who have lost loved ones, the hearts that have been broken, and the young lives that could have been. America, it's time to start bringing our troops home. It's time to admit that no amount of American lives can resolve the political disagreement that lies at the heart of someone else's civil war. That's why I have a plan that will bring our combat troops home by March of 2008. Letting the Iraqis know that we will not be there forever is our last, best hope to pressure the Sunni and Shia to come to the table and find peace.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
-Barack Obama, February 10, 2007 Presidential Campaign Announcement Speech&amp;lt;ref name=announcement /&amp;gt;}}Ultimately, it was the Status of Forces Agreement signed by George W. Bush on November 17, 2008 which forced U.S. combat troops to withdraw from Iraq's cities, villages, and localities by June 30, 2009, and from Iraq entirely by December 31st 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;(2008, November 17). &amp;quot;[http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/world/20081119_SOFA_FINAL_AGREED_TEXT.pdf Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq].&amp;quot; Article 24. Withdrawal of the United States Forces from Iraq. Hosted by ''The New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Office of the Press Secretary (2008, November 27). &amp;quot;[http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/11/20081127-1.html Statement by the President on Agreements with Iraq].&amp;quot; ''The White House''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama privately contacted the Iraq government in an attempt to persuade them to let 10,000 troops stay, but was rejected.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Froomkin, D. (2011, October 26). &amp;quot;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/26/obama-iraq_n_1032507.html Ending the War in Iraq: How Obama's Own Rhetoric - And George Bush's Pact - Boxed in the President].&amp;quot; ''Huffington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Newsweek's Michael Ware accused Obama of a &amp;quot;War Crime&amp;quot; for &amp;quot;''falsely taking credit for finally bringing Iraq to a close—a war actually ended by the Bush administration back in 2008''&amp;quot; and stated, &amp;quot;''The U.S. troops who fought and died in that war, the Iraqis who perished, and the American people deserve far better.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ware, M. (2011, October 24). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/10/24/obamas-war-crime-taking-credit-from-bush-adminsitration-for-ending-the-iraq-war.html Obama's War Crime].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''. U.S. Politics.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The last of Iraq's combat troops have now been withdrawn because of Bush's Status of Forces Agreement which Obama took credit for.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.cnn.com/2011-12-17/middleeast/world_meast_iraq-troops-leave_1_1st-cavalry-division-camp-adder-troop-movements?_s=PM:MIDDLEEAST|work=CNN|title=Obama: Last U.S. troops leave Iraq|date=December 17, 2011|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Afghanistan=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Afghanistan War}}&lt;br /&gt;
Obama escalated troop strength&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pbs&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamaswar/themes/strategy.html#ixzz1LhWNImZp|title=Obama's New Strategy (March '09)|author=George Packer, Seth Jones, David Kilcullen, Rory Stewart, Andrew Exum, Col. Andrew Bacevich (Ret.)|work=PBS|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and defense costs in Afghanistan from $43.5 billion in George Bush's last year to $113.7 billion for 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Congressional Research Service, quoted in Gregory Anthony, ''What price war?''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Adviser to General [[Stanley McChrystal]] David Kilcullen wrote, &amp;quot;One of the big strategic shifts is the use of language now which talks about Pakistan and Afghanistan as the same theater. Now we talked about Af-Pak long before the Obama administration came about, but the public use of that term, and the description of it as the Afghanistan-Pakistan campaign, sends a new message to people about how the administration is going to think about Afghanistan and Pakistan.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pbs&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; This became evident when, under the orders of Obama, a military SEALs team killed September 11th mastermind [[Osama bin Laden]] in Abottabad, Pakistan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/05/commander-in-chief.html|title=Commander in Chief|author=Daniel Romano and Daniel Klaidman|date=May 05, 2011|work=Newsweek|publisher=The Newsweek/Daily Beast Company LLC|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Guantanamo Bay=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Guantanamo Bay}}&lt;br /&gt;
One of Obama's campaign promises was that he would close the American detention center at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba - detainees would be flown to other countries while the ones awaiting trial would enter the American court system. Two days after taking office he signed an order directing the military to do so.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;salon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/25/obama_guantanamo_rhetoric|work=Salon|title=The Obama/Gitmo timeline|author=Natasha Lennard|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But, in November 2009 Obama admitted that his self imposed deadline of January 2010 would be missed, and in March 2011 the president went back on his campaign promise, signing an executive order to create a formal system of indefinite detention for the prisoners.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;salon&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Mexico=====&lt;br /&gt;
In May 2012, President Obama promised Mexican President [[Felipe Calderon]] that his administration would assist Mexico in curbing drug cartel violence, which has led to 30,000 deaths in Mexico. &amp;quot;President Calderon and I . . . stand together against the drug cartels that have unleashed horrific violence in so many communities,&amp;quot; Obama said on May 19. &amp;quot;Mexico can count on the United States as a full partner in this effort.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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The ''[[Washington Post]]'' has reported however that White House officials stopped a requirement for gun dealers to report bulk sales of high-powered semiautomatic rifles commonly used by illegal drug cartels.  [[Justice Department]] officials had asked for White House approval to require thousands of gun dealers along the border to report the purchases to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives. ATF investigators expected to get leads on suspected arms traffickers. Senior law enforcement sources said the proposal from the ATF was held up by then White House chief of staff [[Rahm Emanuel]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Horwitz, S. &amp;amp; Grimaldi, J.V. (2010, December 17). [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/12/17/AR2010121706598.html White House Delayed Rule Meant to Stop Gun Flow to Mexico]. ''The Washington Post''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Gun dealers have been required for decades to report the sales of multiple handguns to the ATF.&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Libya=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Libyan uprising 2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
In February 2011, the political unrest that had spread through the Arab world showed up as protests in Libya. Colonel Muammar el-Qaddafi - leader of Libya for 41 years - responded to the violent activism&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article28376.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with legible steps.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt libya&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/libya/index.html|work=The New York Times|publisher=The New York Times Inc.|format=HTML|language=English|title=Libya — Protests and Revolt (2011)}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[United Nations Security Council]] voted unanimously to impose [[sanctions]], and later authorized all members to take action to protect civilians. Obama, acting without approval from Congress and at the beckoning of the [[United Nations]], directed American forces to take out Libya's air defense system.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt libya&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Obama later said, &amp;quot;[I]f we waited one more day Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Barack Obama|url=http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134935452/obamas-speech-on-libya-a-responsibility-to-act|title=Obama's Speech On Libya: 'A Responsibility To Act'|date=March 28, 2011|publisher=National Public Radio ([[NPR]])|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Alan J. Kuperman]] - writing an editorial for the ''[[Boston Globe]]'' - suggested this statement was false, writing, &amp;quot;[I]ntervention did not prevent genocide, because no such bloodbath was in the offing. To the contrary, by emboldening rebellion, US interference has prolonged Libya’s civil war and the resultant suffering of innocents.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;kuperman&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Alan J. Kuperman|work=The Boston Globe|url=http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions|title=False pretense for war in Libya?|date=April 14, 2011}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Kuperman, a professor of public affairs at the University of Texas who authored a book called ''The Limits of Humanitarian Intervention'', further stated that the rebels had tricked the world into thinking a bloodbath was at hand and that Obama had lied to the American people in order to act on this theory.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;kuperman&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaddafi [never] threaten civilian massacre in Benghazi, as Obama alleged. The “no mercy’’ warning, of March 17, targeted rebels only, as reported by The New York Times, which noted that Libya’s leader promised amnesty for those “who throw their weapons away.’’ Khadafy even offered the rebels an escape route and open border to Egypt, to avoid a fight “to the bitter end.’’ &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://politicalcartel.org/2011/04/17/libya-and-the-obama-doctrine/ Libya and the “Obama Doctrine”.] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However Gaddafi wrote to Obama:&lt;br /&gt;
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Gaddafi said he bore no ill will toward Obama. &amp;quot;We have been hurt more morally than physically because of what had happened against us in both deeds and words by you,&amp;quot; he wrote. &amp;quot;Despite all this you will always remain our son whatever happened. We still pray that you continue to be president of the USA. We endeavour and hope that you will gain victory in the new election campaign.&amp;quot; The letter, dated 5 April 2011 in Tripoli, is signed &amp;quot;Mu'aumer Qaddaffi, Leader of the Revolution&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/apr/06/gaddafi-obama-nato-libya?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Critics point out the only thing worse than starting a &amp;quot;stupid, unnecessary war&amp;quot; against a madman is losing it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/271847/war-libya-dumb-and-dumber-victor-davis-hanson&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2012 Presidential Campaign==&lt;br /&gt;
===2011, Birth Certificate Released===&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Barack_Obama_Controversies#Birth_Certificate]]''&lt;br /&gt;
On April 27, 2011&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;CNN Political Unit (2011, April 27). &amp;quot;[http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/27/white-house-releases-obama-birth-certificate/ White House Releases Obama Birth Certificate].&amp;quot; ''CNN''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, a long-running controversy surrounding Obama's birth was largely put to rest&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Winter, J. (2011, April 29). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/expert-says-obamas-birth-certificate-legit/ Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate is Legit].&amp;quot; ''FOX News''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Tuchman, G. (2011, April 25). &amp;quot;[http://articles.cnn.com/2011-04-25/politics/birthers.obama.hawaii_1_birther-controversy-obama-opinion-research-corporation?_s=PM:POLITICS Obama Birther Claims Have No Merit].&amp;quot; ''CNN''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;(2011, April 27). &amp;quot;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42779923/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-releases-detailed-us-birth-certificate/ Obama Releases Detailed U.S. Birth Certificate].&amp;quot; ''MSNBC''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; when Obama had his long-form birth certificate posted at WhiteHouse.gov.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf Certificate of Live Birth].&amp;quot; State of Hawaii. Retrieved from ''WhiteHouse.gov''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Donald Trump, who had attacked Obama on the Birth Certificate issue and was then leading Republicans in polls for the upcoming GOP primary&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;James, F. (2011, April 15). &amp;quot;[http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/04/15/135446314/poll-donald-trump-birther-darling-leads-gop-field-at-26 Donald Trump, Birther In Chief? Poll Has Him Leading GOP Field with 26 Percent].&amp;quot; ''NPR''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, was effectively knocked out of the race because of this.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kapur, S. (2011, May 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/05/10/trumps-popularity-tanks-after-obama-releases-long-form-birth-certificate/ Trump's Popularity Tanks After Obama Releases Long-Form Birth Certificate].&amp;quot; ''RawStory.com''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The following is a timeline of previous events leading up to the release:&lt;br /&gt;
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* In June 2008 the Obama campaign allowed FactCheck.org to look at his “Certificate of Live Birth” and take photos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Henig, J. (2008, August 21). Born in the U.S.A. FactCheck.org. Retrieved from http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* In July 2008 a blogger discovered a birth announcement from the Honolulu Advertiser from August 13, 1961 for Barack Obama. It has since been discovered another newspaper, the Star Bulletin, also documented the birth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Snopes.com. Barack Obama Birth Certificate. Retrieved from http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* PolitiFact went to extreme lengths to verify Obama’s citizenship, attaining scanned copies of his 1992 marriage certificate from Cook County, IL, his driver’s license record, and his registration and disciplinary record. PolitiFact also addressed a number of concerns about the documentation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hollyfield, A. (2008, June 27). Obama’s birth certificate: Final chapter. PolitiFact. Retrieved from http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* In October 2008 Hawaii’s Department of Health released a statement by Dr. Chiyome Fu.kino verifying that Obama’s birth certificate was on record.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hawaii Department of Health. News Release: Statement by Dr. Chiyome Fu.kino. Retrieved from http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* In August 2009 it was revealed that an alleged Kenyan birth certificate for Obama was a hoax.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Snopes.com. Kenyan Mistake. Retrieved from http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/kenyacert.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Another website allows you to create your own imitation Kenyan birth certificates online.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;KenyanBirthCertificateGenerator.com. Blue Collar Industries. Retrieved from http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===2011, Osama Bin Laden Confirmed Dead===&lt;br /&gt;
On May 1, 2011, Obama announced in a press conference&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama, B. (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-dead Osama Bin Laden Dead].&amp;quot; ''WhiteHouse.gov''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; that Osama Bin Laden was dead after a U.S. assault force infiltrated his military compound in Abottobad, Pakistan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Baker, P., Cooper, H., &amp;amp; Mazzetti, M. (2011, May 1). &amp;quot;[Bin Laden is Dead, Obama Says].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Osama_Bin_Laden/ Target Bin Laden: The Death of Public Enemy #1].&amp;quot; ''ABC News''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''NPR''. &amp;quot;[http://www.npr.org/series/135908383/osama-bin-laden-dead Special Series: Osama Bin Laden Killed].&amp;quot; &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bin Laden was reportedly shot in the head after a helicopter raid ferried Navy SEAL Team Six and CIA paramilitary operatives into Pakistan on April 29.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2011, May 1). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-20058777.html Osama bin Laden is Dead].&amp;quot; Retrieved from ''CBSNews.com''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Reuters obtained photos of unidentified dead bodies from the raid, none of which look like bin Laden. However, the White House had the body of Osama bin Laden disposed of at sea because it claimed this was &amp;quot;in accordance with Islamic tradition&amp;quot; and didn't want to give Bin Laden followers a gravesite shrine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Daily Beast (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/05/02/osama-bin-laden-killed-and-buried-at-sea-breaking-details.html Osama Bin Laden Killed and Buried at Sea].&amp;quot; ''Newsweek''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The White House also refused to publicly reveal photos or evidence of the body, because Obama claimed that &amp;quot;given the graphic nature of these photos, it would create some national security risk.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Allbritton, C. (2011, May 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/04/us-binladen-pakistan-photos-idUSTRE7437KK20110504 Photos Show Three Dead Men at Bin Laden Raid House].&amp;quot; ''Reuters''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''Reuters''. &amp;quot;[http://www.reuters.com/subjects/bin-laden-compound Photos From the Bin Laden Compound].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The burial at sea was criticized by Islamic scholars&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-202_162-20058892.html Islamic Scholars Criticize Bin Laden Sea Burial].&amp;quot; Retrieved from ''CBSNews.com''. Also at [http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/02/islamic-scholars-question-bin-ladens-sea-burial/ Fox News].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and 9/11 families.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Zirulnick, A. (2011, May 3). &amp;quot;[http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2011/0503/Osama-bin-Laden-s-burial-at-sea-critics-range-from-9-11-families-to-militants Osama Bin Laden's Burial At Sea: Critics Range from 9/11 Families to Militants].&amp;quot; ''Christian Science Monitor''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The lack of photos resulted in skepticism about the death from a variety of sources, including the Taliban&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Faiez, R. &amp;amp; Vogt, H. (2011, May 4). &amp;quot;[http://articles.boston.com/2011-05-04/news/29509464_1_bin-taliban-spokesman-zabiullah-mujahid-samiullah-khan Taliban Holding Out for Clear Evidence].&amp;quot; ''Associated Press''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and Republican Senator Lindsey Graham.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rosen, J. &amp;amp; Thomma, S. (2011, May 5). &amp;quot;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/05/05/113709/sc-sen-graham-wants-bin-laden.html S.C. Sen. Graham Wants Bin Laden Photos Released].&amp;quot; ''McClatchy Newspapers''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The death of bin Laden, coupled with the revealing of Obama's long-form Birth Certificate, resulted in a boost of Obama's job approval from 46% to 57% within one month.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dao, J. &amp;amp; Sussman, D. (2011, May 4). &amp;quot;[http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/05/us/politics/05poll.html For Obama, Big Rise in Poll Numbers After Bin Laden Raid].&amp;quot; ''New York Times''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;''Pew Research Center'' (2011, May 2). &amp;quot;[http://www.people-press.org/2011/05/03/public-relieved-by-bin-ladens-death-obamas-job-approval-rises/ Public 'Relieved' by Bin Laden's Death, Obama's Job Approval Rises].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Jones, J.M. (2011, May 5). &amp;quot;[http://www.gallup.com/poll/147437/obama-approval-rallies-six-points-bin-laden-death.aspx Obama Job Approval Rallies Six Points to 52% After Bin Laden Death].&amp;quot; ''Gallup''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2012, relations between the U.S. and Pakistan remain sour because the U.S. did not involve Pakistan fully in the raid to ensure success.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''CBS/Associated Press'' (2012, May 1). &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57424622/1-year-after-osama-bin-laden-killed-still-no-answers-from-pakistan/ 1 Year After Osama bin Laden Killed, Still No Answers from Pakistan].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Pakistan has denied White House claims that there was a deal with it allowing the raid.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Associated Press'' (2011, May 10). &amp;quot;[http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/05/10/pakistani-president-claims-bin-laden-deal/ Former Pakistani President Claims There Was Never Bin Laden Deal With U.S.].&amp;quot; Retrieved from ''FOX News''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=== 2012: Ties to ACORN? ===&lt;br /&gt;
According to Stanley Kurtz - author of ''Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism'' (2010) Obama in 1995 sought and obtained the endorsement of a left-wing third party, the [[New Party]] in his quest to be elected to the Illinois State Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kurtz, S. (2012, June 7). [http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/302031/obamas-third-party-history-stanley-kurtz Obama's Third-Party History]. ''National Review Online''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's &amp;quot;Fight the Smears&amp;quot; campaign has denied this, as has Politico's Ben Smith.&amp;lt;ref name=pollack&amp;gt;Pollack, J.B. (2012, June 7). [http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/07/Obama-Caught-Lying-Again-He-WAS-Member-of-New-Party-Says-Kurtz Obama Caught Lying Again: He WAS Member of 'New Party', Says Kurtz]. ''Breitbart''.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Smith, B. (2008, October 25). [http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/The_dread_New_Party.html The Dread New Party]. ''Politico''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Others who claim he was affiliated with the New Party/ACORN include The Blaze's Billy Hallowell&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hallowell, B. (2012, June 7). [http://www.theblaze.com/stories/report-new-documents-show-obama-was-a-member-of-the-far-left-new-party/ News Docs Reportedly Show Obama Was a Member of the Far-Left 'New Party']. ''The Blaze''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Breitbart's Joel Pollack, Human Events' Erick Erickson&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Erickson, E. (2008, June 10). [http://www.humanevents.com/2008/06/10/obama-and-the-new-party/ Obama and the New Party]. ''Human Events''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Newsbusters' P.J. Gladnick&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Gladnick, P.J. (2008, October 12). [http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/10/08/will-msm-report-obama-membership-socialist-new-party#ixzz21JfE3z1z Will MSM Report on Obama Membership in Socialist New Party?] ''Newsbusters''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, Rick Moran at AmericanThinker.com&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rick Moran. [http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/obamas_alliance_with_marxists.html Obama's Alliance with Marxists], ''American Thinker'', June 03, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and various writers at Discover the Networks (which include Kurtz and Erickson).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7434 NEW PARTY (NP)], ''DiscoverTheNetworks.org''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Kurtz in 2012 has claimed to find minutes of the New Party Chicago chapter that say, &amp;quot;''Barack Obama, candidate for State Senate in the 13th Legislative District, gave a statement to the membership and answered questions. He signed the New Party 'Candidate Contract' and requested an endorsement from the New Party. He also joined the New Party.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=pollack /&amp;gt; Obama campaign strategist David Axelrod responded to Kurtz with silence and when asked if that meant &amp;quot;yes or no&amp;quot;, Axelrod stated, &amp;quot;You can take that as I have no idea what you are talking about.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Pollack, J.B. (2012, June 7). [http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/06/07/Exclusive-Axelrod-Plays-Dumb-on-Obama-and-Socialist-New-Party Exclusive: Axelrod Plays Dumb on Obama and Socialist New Party]. ''Breitbart''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===&amp;quot;You didn't build that&amp;quot; Controversy===&lt;br /&gt;
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On July 13, 2012, at a campaign event in [[Virginia]], Obama gave a speech that immediately stirred up controversy. Speaking about the government's role in the success of private business, he said:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help.  There was a great teacher somewhere in your life.  Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive.  Somebody invested in roads and bridges.  If you’ve got a business - you didn’t build that.  Somebody else made that happen.}} The [[Romney]] campaign has used &amp;quot;If you’ve got a business - you didn’t build that&amp;quot; in ads to show America that Obama believes it is government that creates business rather than hard-working individuals. The Obama campaign has alternatively stated that the sentenced was poorly worded since he was not giving a scripted speech and that when Obama said &amp;quot;that&amp;quot; he was referring to roads and bridges. Obama points to a later portion of his speech in which he said, &amp;quot;The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together,&amp;quot; to support his claim.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Accusations about birth certificate and cultural and name identity==&lt;br /&gt;
Some conservative opponents have accused Obama of not being an American but born outside of the United States, this accusation was bolstered by Obama's reluctance to show his birth certificate to the public, until prompted by [[Donald Trump]]. Obama presented a birth certificate to the public. Some conservative opponents believe that the birth certificate he presented was a forgery.  They are known as &amp;quot;birthers&amp;quot; both by their conservative and liberal opponents. However conservatives like [[Ann Coulter]] reject the birthers' accusations, and view birthers as a fringe group that left-wing media like MSNBC have exaggerated in order to discredit the conservative movement. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are other right-wing and anti-Islamic opponents of Obama who claim that he is a Muslim  '''Barry Soetoro''' during his time in [[Indonesia]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQPXVJuT2vY Barry Soetoro the muslim - YouTube]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Other right-wing opponents claim that Obama is an [[Atheism|atheist]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Political positions of Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barack Obama and uncharitableness]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Barack Obama and abortion]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Born Outside the U.S.A.!]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Jobsgate]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Recovery Summer]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lobbyists ties to the Obama administration]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[New Party]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[ObamaCare]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama doublespeak]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama inauguration]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Religion of Barack Hussein Obama]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Honorable James David Manning]]	&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Young Communist League]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.antiobama.net/ Anti Obama.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.dontvoteobama.net/ Don’t Vote For Obama.net]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://nobamanetwork.com/ Nobama Network]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/ Audacity Of Hypocrisy]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ The Real Barack Obama]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6130/ The New Cult of Personality]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.survivingobamunism.com/index.html Surviving Obamunism T-shirts]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/ Barack Obama the Anti-Christ ?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/23/che-obama-and-the-revolutionary-agenda/ Che, Obama, and the Revolutionary Agenda]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/fashion-shows/ Obama Laundry List of Lies]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/09/americas-first-muslim-president/ GAFFNEY: America's first Muslim president?] Washington Times&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-l-esposito/barack-obama-and-islam_b_212519.html Barack Obama and Islam.] by [[John L. Esposito]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78931 Democrat: Obama's grandma confirms Kenyan birth.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ontheissues.org/barack_obama.htm Barack Obama on the issues.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etWLwrvT2vo Obama = Kosher Puppet.] video on You Tube.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Obama's Religion</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: &amp;quot;circulated a claim&amp;quot; makes it sound like some unsubstantiated rumor.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|right|thumb|'''Then-Senator Obama wearing traditional African garb''', a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''[[Barack Hussein Obama]]''' has been President of the United States since January 2009. Starting in 2007, unidentified people revealed that he was most likely a Muslim.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm|title=Is Barack Obama a Muslim?|work=About.com Urban Legends|accessdate=January 4, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, Obama has repeatedly denied that likelihood, and stated instead that he is a Christian.  When interviewed by ''Christianity Today'' magazine, Obama said,&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I am a Christian, and I am a devout Christian. I believe in the redemptive death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. I believe that that faith gives me a path to be cleansed of sin and have eternal life. But most importantly, I believe in the example that Jesus set by feeding the hungry and healing the sick and always prioritizing the least of these over the powerful. I didn't 'fall out in church' as they say, but there was a very strong awakening in me of the importance of these issues in my life. I didn't want to walk alone on this journey. Accepting Jesus Christ in my life has been a powerful guide for my conduct and my values and my ideals.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;There is one thing that I want to mention that I think is important. Part of what we've been seeing during the course of this campaign is some scurrilous e-mails that have been sent out, denying my faith, talking about me being a Muslim, suggesting that I got sworn in at the U.S. Senate with a Quran in my hand or that I don't pledge allegiance to the flag. I think it's really important for your readers to know that I have been a member of the same church for almost 20 years, and I have never practiced Islam. I am respectful of the religion, but it's not my own. One of the things that's very important in this day and age is that we don't use religion as a political tool and certainly that we don't lie about religion as a way to score political points. I just thought it was important to get that in there to dispel rumors that have been over the Internet. We've done so repeatedly, but obviously it's a political tactic of somebody to try to provide this misinformation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2008/januaryweb-only/104-32.0.html?start=2|title=Q&amp;amp;A: Barack Obama|date=January 2008|work=Christianity Today|accessdate=January 4, 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the best efforts of Obama's supporters, public opinion polls show that one in five or 18% of Americans believed that Obama is a Muslim.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0810/41248.html August 2010 Pew Research poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, any reader can decide for himself. Here are points raised by those who believe that Obama is a Muslim rather than a Christian:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife [[Michelle Obama|Michelle]] does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until [[France]], but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama seems to emotionally hold a Muslim view about Israel, in contrast with Americans who have been educated as Obama has.  Obama has never visited Israel as president despite repeated criticisms of his failure to do so, he waited many days before even mentioning the rocket attacks on Israel in late 2012, and he doesn't appear comfortable even discussing issues related to Israel. &lt;br /&gt;
*In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to [[Jesus]] as &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Son of God rather than as &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; Son of God: &amp;quot;And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as '''''a'' Son of God''', but as a human being.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-jesus-son-god&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LA ''Times''. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Although Obama attended a [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as some do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;[[Saint Paul|Paul]]&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama also used his middle name when sworn in as President.  However, even if he were actually a [[Muslim]], he would ''not'' necessarily have to change his name according to Muslim tradition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;.http://zawaj.com/articles/do-muslim-converts-have-to-change-their-names.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has said &amp;quot;[[John McCain]] has not talked about [[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in an interview with [[George Stephanopoulos]] discussing whether John McCain's campaign has suggested that Obama is not a Christian. George Stephanopoulos -- who had previously been a high-ranking Democrat in the [[Clinton Administration]] -- then suggested that Obama change his answer to refer instead to &amp;quot;Christian faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/?page=all Christina Bellantoni, &amp;quot;Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics&amp;quot;, ''Washington Times'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: [[Allah]] is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the ''Autobiography of [[Malcolm X]]'', which was co-written by [[Alex Haley]], inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the 2008 campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which was a general discussion of US foreign policy that was on the non-fiction best-seller lists for weeks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although Zakaria had Muslim ancestors, he is a non-Muslim educated at Yale with a Ph.D. from Harvard.&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] allows adherents to deny they are Muslim if it would be dangerous not to.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;[[Pakistan]]&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama favors [[Pakistan]], a Muslim nation, in its conflicts with [[India]], a mostly [[Hindu]] nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Indian press has been highly critical of Obama about this. [http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/obama-india-relations-indispensible-pushes-placement-un]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, the Obama Administration's relationship with Pakistan could be driven by its critical role in the battle against [[al-Qaeda]] in [[Afghanistan]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in [[Chicago]] prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 [[Million Man March]] led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one [[mosque]]&amp;quot; in [[Kenya]] while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;[[Renegade]]&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', which originally meant &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Hussein Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Liberal sources claim that this is due to security concerns.  However, in general, Presidents rarely attend weekly church services while in office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blackberry-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272#.T5jUxp8rpfV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet, the Obama family has attended Christian church serves at various times since becoming President in 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2009, Justice [[John Roberts]] failed to administer the [[oath of office]] correctly while Obama placed his hand on a Bible.  To avoid any claims that Obama was not the real President because of mis-stating the oath, Roberts dropped by the White House to re-administering the oath the next day, but no bible was used for that private re-do of the oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the [[G-20]] summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to [[Saudi Arabia|Saudi]] King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{dead link}}&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of [[Las Vegas]] for unknown reasons, and Obama has also criticized state lotteries despite being heavily favored by most [[Democrats]]. The reason may be that [[gambling]] is forbidden in the [[Koran]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and frowned upon by many Protestant denominations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CE0QFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efa2009.org%2Fpapers%2FSSRN-id1335855.pdf&amp;amp;ei=h7kUUPHTA8aBqgHysIHYCw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG1qfZFDgF1FpHG46FFDbMGzBu0Iw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2006, Obama gave an irreverent speech about using the Bible in public policy. It resembled a stand-up comedy act, with Obama making fun of the books of the [[Torah]], the [[Ten Commandments]], the [[Sermon on the Mount]] and other key Biblical passages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2010, while Obama was president, the Missile Defense Agency changed its logo, incorporating a crescent and star.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://loganswarning.com/2010/02/23/us-missile-defense-agency-changes-logo-to-obamaislamic-crescent-hybrid/ US Missile Defense Agency Changes Logo to Obama~Islamic Crescent Hybrid!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo closely resembles that of the [[Iran]]ian Space Agency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prlog.org/10550380-missile-defense-agency-logo-new-twist-to-the-tale.html Missile Defense Agency Logo – A new twist to the tale]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo was designed in 2007, prior to Obama's election as president.&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2012, Obama participated in a $40,000 per plate fundraiser on [[Holy Thursday]], which many devout Christians would find to be inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*On September 25, 2012, in his address to [[United Nations General Assembly]], Obama said that &amp;quot;'''The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/ Transcript: Obama address to U.N. General Assembly] (September 25, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This outrageous comment was predictably ignored by the [[lamestream media]], but rightly highlighted by Conservative commentators.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/ Media ignore Obama attack on ‘those who slander the Prophet of Islam’] (September 26, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's spiritual mentor of 20 years, Rev. [[Jeremiah Wright]] explained in an interview &amp;quot;that Barack Obama was steeped in Islam when he first met him,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thenewamerican.com/component/k2/item/12165-obama-called-our-most-toxic-president?Itemid=667 Obama Called Our Most &amp;quot;Toxic&amp;quot; President, New American, July 20th 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and said he “made it comfortable” for Obama to accept Christianity without having renounce his Islamic background. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/05/jeremiah-wright-i-made-it-comfortable-for-obama-to-accept-christianity-without-having-to-renounce-islam/ Jeremiah Wright: I “Made It Comfortable” For Obama to Accept Christianity Without Having to Renounce Islam (Video Report), The Gateway Pundit, may 10, 2012]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama exempted American Muslims from the mandates of [[Obamacare]]. At the same time, he forces Christians to abandon their faith without exemption.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama further impedes the Christian faith on gay rights, telling military chaplains a conscience clause that would allow military chaplains to opt-out of performing gay marriages is “unnecessary and ill-advised.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/obama-calls-conscience-clause-for-military-chaplains-ill-advised.html Obama calls Conscience Clause for Military Chaplains “Ill-Advised”, Fox News, January 3, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya]]n [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (This obviously does not completely rule out the possibility that his father was a member of that 1%, because his father was in the small minority that left Kenya to be educated in the US.) There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in [[Massachusetts]] from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama toured a mosque in [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Muslim agenda of the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mystery:Why_Do_Some_Oppose_the_Likelihood_that_Obama_Is_Muslim%3F]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|right|thumb|'''Then-Senator Obama wearing traditional African garb''', a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''[[Barack Hussein Obama]]''' is the first [[Muslim]] president of the [[United States]], as illustrated by his many actions and comments both before and after taking the official (private) [[oath of office]] without using a [[Bible]].  While there is a strong political incentive for Obama to claim to be a [[Christian]], as he has done whenever discussing his religion, all credible evidence points to [[Islam]] as his religion:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Obama declared in prepared remarks, &amp;quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://middleeast.about.com/b/2009/04/06/obama-in-turkey-at-the-gates-of-islam.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's wife [[Michelle Obama|Michelle]] does not accompany him to Muslim nations because [[Sharia law]] would apply to her there; on a presidential trip she was with him until [[France]], but then returned home.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama seems to emotionally hold a Muslim view about Israel, in contrast with Americans who have been educated as Obama has.  Obama has never visited Israel as president despite repeated criticisms of his failure to do so, he waited many days before even mentioning the rocket attacks on Israel in late 2012, and he doesn't appear comfortable even discussing issues related to Israel. &lt;br /&gt;
*In prepared remarks in April 2012, Obama referred to [[Jesus]] as &amp;quot;a&amp;quot; Son of God rather than as &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; Son of God: &amp;quot;And for me, and I’m sure for some of you, it’s also a chance to remember the tremendous sacrifice that led up to that day, and all that Christ endured—not just as '''''a'' Son of God''', but as a human being.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cnsnews.com/news/article/obama-jesus-son-god&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's background and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm.  During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LA ''Times''. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Although Obama attended a [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] school while in Indonesia, he was a part of the Muslim society there.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/24/AR2007012400371_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;A Brief History of The Fourteen Infallibles. Qum: Ansariyan Publications. 2004.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;al-Qarashi, Baqir Shareef (2007). The life of Imam Husain. Qum: Ansariyan Publications.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &amp;quot;Hussein&amp;quot; with a Christian one as some do when they undergo a religious conversion.  For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &amp;quot;Cristiano&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &amp;quot;[[Saint Paul|Paul]]&amp;quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]].  &amp;quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama also used his middle name when sworn in as President.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has said &amp;quot;[[John McCain]] has not talked about [[my Muslim faith]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKGdkqfBICw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in an interview with [[George Stephanopoulos]] discussing whether John McCain's campaign has suggested that Obama is not a Christian. George Stephanopoulos -- who had previously been a high-ranking Democrat in the [[Clinton Administration]] -- then suggested that Obama change his answer to refer instead to &amp;quot;Christian faith.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/sep/07/obama-verbal-slip-fuels-his-critics/?page=all Christina Bellantoni, &amp;quot;Obama’s verbal slip fuels his critics&amp;quot;, ''Washington Times'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*He has said that &amp;quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &amp;quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&amp;quot; and recited &amp;quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&amp;quot; the opening lines: [[Allah]] is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama stated that the autobiography of [[Malcolm X]], a [[Nation of Islam]] leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &amp;quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&amp;quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=78323]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In the book ''Obama,&amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;'' his friends say that &amp;quot;he actually really wasn't much of a churchgoer.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/06/16/wolffe-president-missed-rev-wright-s-racist-rants-because-he-wasn-t-much- Wolffe: President Missed Rev. Wright’s Racist Rants Because 'He Wasn’t Much of a Churchgoer'] NewsBusters.org, June 16, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &amp;quot;The Post-American World&amp;quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which is written by a Muslim author.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] allows adherents to deny they are Muslim if it would be dangerous not to.&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &amp;quot;[[Pakistan]]&amp;quot; rather than the common American one.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &amp;quot;Pakistan&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;Pokiston&amp;quot; in the first presidential debate.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
*Obama favors [[Pakistan]], a Muslim nation, in its conflicts with [[India]], a mostly [[Hindu]] nation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Indian press has been highly critical of Obama about this. [http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/11/08/obama-india-relations-indispensible-pushes-placement-un]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in [[Chicago]] prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &amp;quot;churched&amp;quot; in a 2007 speech: &amp;quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi in Dimashq.jpg|left|175px|thumb|''&amp;quot;I really endorse and support the policies that he has adopted,&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Libya]]n leader [[Muammar Gaddafi]] said of President Barack Obama&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; as reported by the&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; ''[[Washington Post]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/26/AR2010042604170.html ''Man's worst friend?''] By Dana Milbank, ''Washington Post'', April 27, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 [[Million Man March]] led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nowpublic.com/world/obama-organized-farrakhan-s-million-man-march, Obama Organized Farrakhan’s ‘Million Man March’, NowPublic.com, April 2, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama visited &amp;quot;more than one [[mosque]]&amp;quot; in [[Kenya]] while on a political trip there but did not visit any churches, although there are a large proportion of churches and even a National Temple in Kenya.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://islamizationwatch.blogspot.com/2010/01/kenyan-delegation-visits-sderot-israel.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &amp;quot;Renegade&amp;quot;.  &amp;quot;[[Renegade]]&amp;quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', which originally meant &amp;quot;Christian turned Muslim.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;President-elect [[Barack Hussein Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Liberal sources claim that this is due to security concerns.  However, in general, Presidents rarely attend weekly church services while in office.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-obama-blackberry-faith-white-house/story?id=9689272#.T5jUxp8rpfV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama botched his public [[oath of office]] in which he placed his hand on a Bible, and then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''At the [[G-20]] summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to [[Saudi Arabia|Saudi]] King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|250px|'''President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia''' - April 2009]]Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &amp;quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &amp;quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)&lt;br /&gt;
*Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &amp;quot;IHS&amp;quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;{{dead link}}&lt;br /&gt;
*On more than one occasion, Obama verbally attacks the economic livelihood of [[Las Vegas]] for unknown reasons, and Obama has also criticized state lotteries despite being heavily favored by most [[Democrats]]. The reason may be that [[gambling]] is forbidden in the [[Koran]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wpdyn/content/article/2010/02/02/AR2010020203169.html Lawmakers upset over Obama's 2nd anti-Vegas remark, WashingtonPost, February 2, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and frowned upon by many Protestant denominations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;amp;rct=j&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;esrc=s&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;cd=2&amp;amp;ved=0CE0QFjAB&amp;amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efa2009.org%2Fpapers%2FSSRN-id1335855.pdf&amp;amp;ei=h7kUUPHTA8aBqgHysIHYCw&amp;amp;usg=AFQjCNG1qfZFDgF1FpHG46FFDbMGzBu0Iw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2006, Obama gave an irreverent speech about using the Bible in public policy. It resembled a stand-up comedy act, with Obama making fun of the books of the [[Torah]], the [[Ten Commandments]], the [[Sermon on the Mount]] and other key Biblical passages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2010, Obama changed the logo of the Missile Defense Agency, incorporating a crescent and star.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://loganswarning.com/2010/02/23/us-missile-defense-agency-changes-logo-to-obamaislamic-crescent-hybrid/ US Missile Defense Agency Changes Logo to Obama~Islamic Crescent Hybrid!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The new logo closely resembles that of the [[Iran]]ian Space Agency.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.prlog.org/10550380-missile-defense-agency-logo-new-twist-to-the-tale.html Missile Defense Agency Logo – A new twist to the tale]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*In 2012, Obama participated in a $40,000 per plate fundraiser on [[Holy Thursday]], which many devout Christians would find to be inappropriate.&lt;br /&gt;
*On September 25, 2012, in his address to [[United Nations General Assembly]], Obama said that &amp;quot;'''The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/transcript-obama-address-to-un-general-assembly/ Transcript: Obama address to U.N. General Assembly] (September 25, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This outrageous comment was predictably ignored by the [[lamestream media]], but rightly highlighted by Conservative commentators.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FOX News: [http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/09/26/media-ignore-obama-attack-on-those-who-slander-prophet-islam/ Media ignore Obama attack on ‘those who slander the Prophet of Islam’] (September 26, 2012)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya]]n [[Muslim]] father was a &amp;quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&amp;quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (This obviously does not completely rule out the possibility that his father was a member of that 1%.) There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in [[Massachusetts]] from 1988 to 1991.  Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama toured a mosque in [[Istanbul]], [[Turkey]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/ss/obama_praying_at_mosque.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;amp;show_article=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Muslim agenda of the Obama administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Obama Administration]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Essay:Greatest Conservative Songs</title>
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&lt;div&gt;There are many brilliant—and popular—conservative songs.  Here is our growing list (click the box next to &amp;quot;Billboard Rank&amp;quot; to list the most popular first):&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Songs &amp;quot;Classic&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
!Artist&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Billboard Rank&lt;br /&gt;
!Category&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Living In America''&lt;br /&gt;
|[[James Brown]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Song that espouses the virtues of, and pride in, living in the United States. Appears in the movie &amp;quot;Rocky IV&amp;quot; and on the film's soundtrack.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/R&amp;amp;B/Funk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sEqzEgDZ0g &amp;quot;Ain't I Right&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Marty Robbins]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Song against communism and socialism.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT88jBAoVIM ''Amazing Grace'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[John Newton]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A Christian hymn published in 1779.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Amen&lt;br /&gt;
|Kid Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|Talks about &amp;quot;Stop living off handouts and favors&amp;quot;. Written and performed by a republican.&lt;br /&gt;
|N/A&lt;br /&gt;
|Country/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3S7mlRYL-8 America]&lt;br /&gt;
|Neil Diamond&lt;br /&gt;
|Freedom, Liberty, Patriotism&lt;br /&gt;
|8&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''America USA''&lt;br /&gt;
|Joey Sudyka&lt;br /&gt;
|Not very well known, perhaps, but a good patriotic song.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErPywgiMb4k ''Angry Young Man'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Billy Joel]]&lt;br /&gt;
|The doctrinaire leftist radical with &amp;quot;his fist in the air and his head in the sand&amp;quot; comes in for biting criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4eonyfRet8&amp;amp;feature=related ''Back in the U.S.A.'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Chuck Berry]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A patriotic song about missing life in the U.S.A.&lt;br /&gt;
|Sixteen&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y5GDvN9_OE ''Ballad of the Green Berets'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Sergeant Barry Sadler&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-American and pro-military.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/r5Q8Xa0bPy8''Battle Hymn of the Republic'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lee Greenwood]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Bus Stop''&lt;br /&gt;
|The Hollies&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-[[chivalry]], pro-romance and pro-marriage: &amp;quot;Someday my name and hers are going to be the same.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/cMfrLFirGWc ''Chapel of Love'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Dixie Cups&lt;br /&gt;
|Marriage in a church&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIF4U_QFSxQ ''Chores'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Animal Collective&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Now I've got these chores / and I'm not gonna hurt no-one&amp;quot; -- Hard work is praised and violence is discouraged. A scary song for [[liberals]]!&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Country Trash''&lt;br /&gt;
|Johnny Cash&lt;br /&gt;
|In a comedic way, the song praises the small town conservative virtues of the people looked down upon by big city liberals as &amp;quot;Country trash&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Crying-in-the-Chapel-lyrics-Elvis-Presley/E547D833F0BBFADF48256874002B3358 ''Crying In The Chapel'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Elvis Presley]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-marriage&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNrdmjcNTc&amp;amp;ob=av2n''Courtesy of the Red, White &amp;amp; Blue (The Angry American)'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Toby Keith]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A patriotic response to the Sept. 11 attacks&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (Hot Country Songs)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''D-I-V-O-R-C-E''&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Tammy Wynette]]&lt;br /&gt;
|This sad song was a huge hit in 1968.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38oeBgvbMYA ''Don't Let 'Em Take Your Gun'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Grand Funk Railroad&lt;br /&gt;
|A father gives his son some sage advice.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/v9BtLRWbkmA ''Don't Stop (Thinking About Tomorrow)'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Fleetwood Mac&lt;br /&gt;
|Used by Bill Clinton as his campaign theme song in 1992, but liberals often try to appeal to conservative themes for elections.&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Do You Hear the People Sing''&lt;br /&gt;
|Claude-Michel Schönberg&lt;br /&gt;
|Standing up to government in the name of freedom, from the musical ''Les Miserables''&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/5Jxnt-QY-j4 ''Game of Love'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Wayne Fontana and the Mindbenders&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;The purpose of a man is to love a woman, and the purpose of a woman is to love a man...  It started long ago in the Garden of Eden when Adam said to Eve 'Baby, you're for me.'&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Get a Job''&lt;br /&gt;
|The Silhouettes&lt;br /&gt;
|Self-explanatory; a rebuke to lazy [[liberals]] who want to sit around and wait for government handouts.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/4ZEE8utquP8 ''Get it Right the First Time'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Louisiana's LeRoux&lt;br /&gt;
|Wealthy Georgia politician is placed in high office and turns out to be a puppet with no ideas of his own.  Released in 1980 when Jimmy Carter was up for re-election.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzU2iJ9qfXg ''Gimme Back My Bullets'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lynyrd Skynyrd]]&lt;br /&gt;
|The name says it all.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-z5hD38Bs8Y''God Bless America'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Irving Berlin&lt;br /&gt;
|American patriotic, classic song.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''God and Guns''&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lynyrd Skynyrd]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A powerful new song that elaborates on the song title.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.scoutsongs.com/lyrics/proudtobeamerican.html ''God Bless the USA'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Lee Greenwood&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|7 (Hot Country)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SP5EfwBWgg0&amp;amp;feature=related ''Go Down Moses'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Louis Armstrong]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IStlBOX9F4o ''God's Gonna Cut You Down'']&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Go tell that long tongue liar, go and tell that midnight rider, tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter, tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.cowboylyrics.com/lyrics/jones-george/gods-gonna-get-cha-for-that-6638.html ''God's Gonna Get 'Cha For That'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Tammy Wynette &amp;amp; George Jones&lt;br /&gt;
|You cannot escape God's gaze, no matter who you are&lt;br /&gt;
|Twenty-five&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''God Save the Queen''&lt;br /&gt;
|unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|Despite being frighteningly atheistic, the British have enough sense to keep this God-inclusive song as their national anthem. The anthem rightly attributes the success and good fortune of the nation and its monarch to God.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|national anthem&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/EgkBx8csEws ''Goodbye, Yellow Brick Road'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Elton John]]&lt;br /&gt;
|The same message as the [[Prodigal Son]]: look objectively at our own lives, and realize that &amp;quot;I should have listened to my old man.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/serve.html ''Gotta Serve Somebody'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Bob Dylan]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;It may be the devil or it may be the Lord.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Twenty-four&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.ixlyrics.com/CLIVE-DUNN/GRANDAD.html ''Grandad'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Clive Dunn&lt;br /&gt;
|UK Number 1 hit, in praise of senior citizens and their values&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZVPv9B-ZlM ''Government Cheese'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Rainmakers&lt;br /&gt;
|Humorous spoof of welfare.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6yLQRF-cEU&amp;amp;ob=av2nHave You Forgotten?]&lt;br /&gt;
|Darryl Worley&lt;br /&gt;
|Patriotic response to [[September 11, 2001 attacks]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=15568&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (US Country)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1KtScrqtbc &amp;quot;He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|Hollies &lt;br /&gt;
|Repeats the slogan of the Boys Town, a Christian charity for youngsters founded by Father Edward J. Flanagan in Omaha&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boystown.org/about/father-edward-|j-|flanagan&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw ''I Am America'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Krista Branch&lt;br /&gt;
|American [[Tea Party Movement]] Song&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16u0wwCfoJ4 ''I Fought the Law (and the Law Won)'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Crickets&lt;br /&gt;
|Its title says it all. The version by ''The Clash'' has a particularly good tempo.&lt;br /&gt;
|9 (Bobby Fuller Four version)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/OtZ5YsvREi4 ''In America'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The [[Charlie Daniels]] Band&lt;br /&gt;
|Patriotism makes a comeback in response to the Iran hostage crisis and Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.&lt;br /&gt;
|Eleven&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''I Saw The Light''&lt;br /&gt;
|Hank Williams&lt;br /&gt;
|Redemption of sin through faith.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''It's America''&lt;br /&gt;
|Rodney Atkins&lt;br /&gt;
|Celebrates the American spirit and all the good things about the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (US Country)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.justsomelyrics.com/767663/McCarthy-Keep-an-Open-Mind-or-Else-Lyrics ''Keep an Open Mind or Else'']&lt;br /&gt;
|McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
|About the conservative value of keeping an [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|open mind]].&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Last Kiss''&lt;br /&gt;
|Wayne Cochran and the C.C. Riders&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Oh where oh where can my baby be; The Lord took her away from me; She's gone to heaven so I got to be good; So I can see my baby when.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|2 (J. Frank Wilson version)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/BvPugOWeZiA ''Let It Be'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[The Beatles]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Very popular in Russia under the Soviets&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-1_d6bbM1I ''My Love'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Petula Clark]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A Christian love in secular form.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/kD5M_i6JceU ''Neighborhood Bully'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Bob Dylan]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Israel's right to exist and defend itself.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kZ0pA9REyU ''No Opportunity Necessary, No Experience Needed'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Richie Havens (Covered by Yes)&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;...I know your cross is heavier With every step Every step But I know a man who'd walk miles for you...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdZTKvNXxPA &amp;quot;Nothing Like You&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Miles Davis]] and Bob Dorough&lt;br /&gt;
|Celebrates the sight of ones beloved - Isaiah 43:4&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iYY2FQHFwE ''Okie From Muskogee'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Merle Haggard]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Anti-drug and anti-hippie; a song about praising the traditional American values in Mid-America. Was written in response to the Vietnam War protests and counter-culture movement.&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (Billboard Hot Country)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''People Get Ready''&lt;br /&gt;
|Curtis Mayfield and the Impressions&lt;br /&gt;
|An all-time classic song about the glory of the [[Lord]].&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6XZDb045xU ''Red White &amp;amp; Blue (Love It or Leave)'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lynyrd Skynyrd]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;It was all based around this somewhat Utopian view of the world. The idea was that music would lift man up to a higher plane, and that world leaders, if they were able |to sit down on some big grassy knoll where the sun was shining and hear music...&amp;quot; Tom Johnston of LS&lt;br /&gt;
|Twenty-seven&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2lRcxlYx40''Renegade'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Steppenwolf]]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[John Kay]]'s childhood escape from Communist [[East Germany]].&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOUqQt3Kg0''Respect'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Aretha Franklin&lt;br /&gt;
|This song is about respecting woman and their choices to be equal members in society.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Soul&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBohsCG8emk ''Simple Man'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Charlie Daniels]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about how drugs and poor politics are a result of people putting their bibles down. Also a strongly pro death penalty song.&lt;br /&gt;
|Twelve&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/RCqxq6xqoXI ''Sin City'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Flying Burrito Brothers&lt;br /&gt;
|Attacks modern decadence and predicts divine punishment for sin.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPPlGFh6OpQ ''Spirit In The Sky'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Norman Greenbaum&lt;br /&gt;
|A religious rock song written in 1969.&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwBirf4BWew ''Stand By Your Man'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Tammy Wynette]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Don't expect [[feminists]] to like that one! Or [[Hillary Clinton]]!&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (Hot Country Singles)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Star Spangled Banner''&lt;br /&gt;
|Francis Scott Key&lt;br /&gt;
|The American national anthem.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Starting All Over Again''&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Petula Clark]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Keep moving onward, even in the most difficult of times.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Traditional&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Stayin' Alive''&lt;br /&gt;
|[[The Bee Gees]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-people and pro-staying alive, and this: &amp;quot;we can try to understand/the [[New York Times]]' effect on man.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgrQST6VlnQ &amp;quot;Stay With Me&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Frank Sinatra]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Beautiful song of Christian faith.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKdAVYKYZfo''Storm the Embassy'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Stray Cats&lt;br /&gt;
|Another conservative song about the Iran hostage crisis.  &amp;quot;Fifteen man taken captive in a hostile foreign land/Scorchin' sun beaming down onto miles and miles of sand...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCXiuqJ1E6g ''Supper's Ready'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Genesis (band)|Genesis]]&lt;br /&gt;
|''There's an angel standing in the sun, and he's crying with a loud voice, &amp;quot;This is the supper of the mighty one&amp;quot;, Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Has returned to lead his |children home, To take them to the new Jerusalem.''&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Sympathy for the Devil''&lt;br /&gt;
|The Rolling Stones&lt;br /&gt;
|Reminds humanity that evil is present in the world and needs to be fought.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukUL_I14GPw''Take Me Home, Country Roads'']&lt;br /&gt;
|John Denver&lt;br /&gt;
|Celebrates Southern country landscape and traditions.&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maz9ddxEQnM ''Taxman'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[The Beatles]]&lt;br /&gt;
|George Harrison said, &amp;quot;Taxman was when I first realized that even though we had started earning money, we were actually giving most of it away in taxes.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/p6q9nBusrq8 ''That Smell'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lynyrd Skynyrd]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A very strong anti-drug use song by America's most well-known Southern rock band.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeWZhuzFMM8 ''The Ascent of Stan'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Ben Folds]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Tells the story of a former &amp;quot;textbook hippie man&amp;quot; who realizes that he has become everything that he was protesting against.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=6547 ''The Devil Went Down To Georgia'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Charlie Daniels]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A deeper message here, as Daniels explains.&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHAFmFsb9XM&amp;amp;feature=related ''The Fightin' Side of Me'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Merle Haggard&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about patriotism and standing up for [[America]].&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (Hot Country Singles)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/fHvf20Y6eoM ''Turn, Turn, Turn'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Byrds&lt;br /&gt;
|An almost word-for-word direct quotation from the [[Bible]], specifically [[Ecclesiastes]], with the addition of the refrain &amp;quot;Turn, Turn, Turn&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/C68J1tJM6vU ''Unborn Child'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Seals and Crofts&lt;br /&gt;
|This pro-life song was a hit single in 1974, but for some reason gets left off the Seals and Crofts greatest hits albums.&lt;br /&gt;
|sixty-six&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Union Sundown''&lt;br /&gt;
|Bob Dylan&lt;br /&gt;
|The title says it all.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvkUXKyl5wY &amp;quot;Waiting List&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Dr. Octagon]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A powerful song about socialized medicine and rationing&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Hip-hop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Way Out Here''&lt;br /&gt;
|Josh Thompson&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Our house is all protected by the good Lord and a Gun&amp;quot;, and &amp;quot;We wont take a dime if we aint earned it, when it comes to weight, brother we pull our own&amp;quot;. It is pro gun |ownership, the Lord, and hard work. Also preaches the morals and ethics that are known from small towns.&lt;br /&gt;
|Fifteen (US Country)&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''We Must Take America Back''&lt;br /&gt;
|Steve Vaus&lt;br /&gt;
|Became an underground country music hit in 1992 after RCA dropped him and took the album out of print due to the political lyrics.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mjWhMn-VnU ''The Well Below the Valley'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Traditional.  Covered by Christy Moore&lt;br /&gt;
|Song loosely based on the story of [[Jesus]] and the woman at the well.  Lyrics about old-fashioned family relationships and traditional attitudes to women.  Promotes all children's right to life.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Traditional/Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nElc2vMU-b0 ''When You Love A Woman'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Journey&lt;br /&gt;
|True love from the heart&lt;br /&gt;
|Twelve&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw5RkzbHb-w ''You Can't Hurry Love (You Just Have to Wait)'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Supremes&lt;br /&gt;
|Abstinence for rock fans. Also performed by Phil Collins.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/lnk8SKD9zcA''You Light Up My Life'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Debby Boone&lt;br /&gt;
|One of the biggest hits ever, but [[liberals]] omit that this song is about [[Jesus]].&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2UE5g72s0o ''Yours Is No Disgrace'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Yes]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Written to, and about, the troops headed for Vietnam.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Classic/Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Songs &amp;quot;Rock&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
!Artist&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Billboard Rank&lt;br /&gt;
!Category&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qjSmODTQsk ''A Dead Man's Words'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Queensrÿche&lt;br /&gt;
|No Man Left Behind. &amp;quot;The word we hear is there's one man down and he's alive. They ask for volunteers. I raise my hand high. I'm sure he'd do the same for me. It's three days through the desert heat to save one man's life and I don't even know his name.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVsZap7WBm8 ''All In'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Lifehouse&lt;br /&gt;
|Describes a relationship with God as being full of commitment and without reservations.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TefSlVqENRM ''At 30,000 Ft.'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Queensrÿche&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-soldier, pro-Iraqi/Afghanistan action.  &amp;quot;Flaming oil blackens the sky. I don't know why...their hate is the reason for the Hell that I make.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/bHpw6CzprNY ''Bad Rap (Who You Tryin' To Kid, Kid?)'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Steve Taylor&lt;br /&gt;
|Takes aim at LA and NY hipsters, the Village Voice, abortion, and &amp;quot;the left-wing band with their head in the sand&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.robertchristgau.com/get_artist.php?name=sex+pistols''Bodies'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Sex Pistols&lt;br /&gt;
|Profane but graphically anti-abortion.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Critical Acclaim''&lt;br /&gt;
|Avenged Sevenfold&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-America and pro-Military.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVOEoo1oXBs ''Declaration Day'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Iced Earth&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about the Revolutionary War.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRNrzgDHmQE ''Devil is a Loser'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Lordi&lt;br /&gt;
|About how actions have consequences, mixed with contempt for the devil and satanists.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock/Metal&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjJ9v__NyR0 ''Disparity by Design'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Rise Against&lt;br /&gt;
|Refers to the 'over-reaching arm' of the government, and considers whether welfare is a 'handout undeserved'.  Also refers to the American ideal of 'pulling yourself up by your bootstraps'.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.lyricsfreak.com/p/pearl+jam/dissident_20106414.html ''Dissident'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Pearl Jam&lt;br /&gt;
|About a woman who engages in [[liberal values]] by being impregnated out of wedlock and having an abortion, but immediately regrets doing so.&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/K5N2WJ1szHE ''Father of Mine'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Everclear&lt;br /&gt;
|A reminder of the importance of good parenting. Everclear singer Art Alexakis wrote much of his material from his own perspective of a troubled childhood. At the end of |the song, Alexakis promises to be a better father than his own had been.&lt;br /&gt;
|4&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/zapGC2PrWiU ''Fair Exchange&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kansas (band)|Kansas]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Warnings about totalitarian governments who want to take away your freedom in the name of utopia.  Also much of their early 80s material, which has Christian lyrics.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYRZt7xcwpY&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be &amp;quot;Freedom is Colorblind&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|JoeDanMedia&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about how the left uses race to polarize the country. It is a conservative song that tries to unite the country.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hZsG1ikgK8 ''Hundred Mile Stare'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Queensrÿche&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-soldier, freedom. &amp;quot;What ever happened to conviction and faith? People trip from side to side; don't know which way or what side to take. Always known the truth. It's really black and white. I've got no fear of judgment when it's time to fight.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Iraq No Phobia''&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-Pain&lt;br /&gt;
|It is a pro-American, pro-military heavy metal song about the first [[Gulf War]]: ''&amp;quot;Mohammed's no match for the great Uncle Sam.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b71clnfgyts ''No Son of Mine'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Genesis&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|Twelve&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzEhnBdOTAM &amp;quot;ONE TEA PARTY&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Toot Sweet]] &lt;br /&gt;
|This song is a metaphoric call to energize, motivate and unite the movement that we are all passionate about... the time is now to stand together, united, &amp;quot;AS ONE&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/wDrRVlm5HOw &amp;quot;Prayer for America&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|JoeDanMedia&lt;br /&gt;
|A short history lesson put to music regarding our schools and how the Bible was taught there in previous years.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Welcome to the Family''&lt;br /&gt;
|Avenged Sevenfold&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about death row, although not anti-death penalty.&lt;br /&gt;
|8&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/wq160PIYjHo &amp;quot;No Rules for Radicals&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|JoeDanMedia&lt;br /&gt;
|This song highlights &amp;quot;rules&amp;quot; Saul Alinsky wrote about in his progressive-liberal book, 'Rules for Radicals'.  &lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Real American''&lt;br /&gt;
|Rick Derringer&lt;br /&gt;
|Patriotic anthem, known as [[Hulk Hogan]]'s pre-match song.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/FAvQSkK8Z8U ''Red Barchetta'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Rush]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Tells the story of a future with excessive regulation, where even driving is illegal.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcT3sIBRv_I ''Sliver'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Queensrÿche&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-soldier, bravery. &amp;quot;It's time to sack up and let go of your mothers.  Take your gun, it's the cross that's carried by your brothers.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=096LhjGNNCk ''Something For Nothing'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;You can't get something for nothing, you can't have freedom for free.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/cnijc9wNpV4 ''Sparks of the Tempest'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kansas (band)|Kansas]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Warnings about totalitarian governments who want to take away your freedom in the name of utopia.  Also much of their early 80s material, which has Christian lyrics.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Stranger in Blue Suede Shoes''&lt;br /&gt;
|Kevin Ayers&lt;br /&gt;
|Defends the right of businessmen to choose their customers: &amp;quot;we don't serve strangers in blue suede shoes.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Big Money''&lt;br /&gt;
|Rush&lt;br /&gt;
|Pro-[[capitalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
|forty-five&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY_6b4-N9Uo ''Ticket to Ride'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[The Beatles]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Lyrics describe anti-feminist attitude&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQYpF2pCkLI ''My Body'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Young the Giant&lt;br /&gt;
|''&amp;quot;My body tells me no / But I won't quit / Cause I want more&amp;quot;'' &amp;amp;mdash; Powerful chorus describes how the singer defies his body's physical desire to stop working and continue working hard because he wants to reap the rewards he has earned from his hard work. It describes conservative traits (persevering with hard work) and capitalistic ideals (wanting the rewards you worked for; working past your limit because you have proper incentive).&lt;br /&gt;
|65&lt;br /&gt;
|Alternative&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Songs &amp;quot;Spiritual&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
!Artist&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Billboard Rank&lt;br /&gt;
!Category&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/iq10bz3PxyY ''Christmas Shoes'']&lt;br /&gt;
|NewSong&lt;br /&gt;
|A Christmas song by a Christian band.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA &lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoaH0I9UwLI ''Your Love Is Extravagant'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Casting Crowns&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnnhYE1DhC4 ''What If His People Prayed'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Casting Crowns&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mA_H6C8iLPA ''Liberalism is a Mental Disorder'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Infidel (Gregory Van Leer Jr.) with an opening from [[Michael Savage]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Clearly attacks [[liberal values]].&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rap&lt;br /&gt;
|- &lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h1oRP7FfBw ''Sunny Afternoon'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Kinks&lt;br /&gt;
|About a rich man trying to enjoy the simple things in life because the Nanny-state has nearly bankrupted him.&lt;br /&gt;
|Fourteen&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''2+2=5 (The Lukewarm)''&lt;br /&gt;
|Radiohead&lt;br /&gt;
|A song chastising people for accepting the mainstream medias version of events and not paying attention.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''No Children''&lt;br /&gt;
|The Mountain Goats&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about a marriage falling apart because the couple has no children to hold the family together.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuUmLIPSasI ''God Loves My Country'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Balthrop, Alabama&lt;br /&gt;
|A song that declares that God loves America most of all.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zZE0SrkyNE&amp;amp;ob=av2n ''Where'd You Go'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Fort Minor&lt;br /&gt;
|Shows the hardship of divorce, liberal values, and the possible future of the families of our service men who could be forced to serve in Libya.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rap&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Patriotism''&lt;br /&gt;
|Company Flow&lt;br /&gt;
|While containing bad language it endorses the US as a super-power.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rap&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Tribute''&lt;br /&gt;
|Tenacious D&lt;br /&gt;
|Comedy single, but it's also a very popular song about overcoming Satan and alludes to many other Christian themes such as heaven and hell.&lt;br /&gt;
|4&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock/folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''For Martha''&lt;br /&gt;
|The Smashing Pumpkins&lt;br /&gt;
|Being torn between the anguish of losing a lost one and the joy of knowing you will one day reunite them with in heaven&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDIGzzeQjaE ''Dethharmonic'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Dethklok&lt;br /&gt;
|Anti-tax&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Get Over It''&lt;br /&gt;
|The Eagles&lt;br /&gt;
|Written by Don Henley (who is a liberal) about his frustration of people blaming others for their own problems and believing the world owes them a favor ''&amp;quot;the big bad |world doesn't owe you a thing,&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR6oYX1D-0w &amp;quot;I Need A Dollar&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|Aloe Blacc&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Please Mr.Bossman I need this job more than you can know&amp;quot; - an excellent paean to the plights of unemployment&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Pop/Soul&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/RlOQBGjkm78 &amp;quot;Extra Extra&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Toots Sweet]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Toots does a great job at making the clips entertaining as well as informative.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yq8zn15EPE &amp;quot;Somebody Must Be Prayin' For Me]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Tim McGraw]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Song about prayer and how it is a necessary part of everyday life.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNTUADEhC8Q&amp;quot;The List&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|The Right Brothers&lt;br /&gt;
|A song that melodically lists liberal activists.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/8uxAT6dzKSM &amp;quot;We the People&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Toots Sweet]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A song about the Constitution and how the current administration has been abusing the beloved document we are trying to live by.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/AA1aHrfxgEg &amp;quot;Shut up and Teach&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|The Right Brothers&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberal indoctrination runs rampant in our schools. Song expresses the desire to stick to a non-partisan curriculum.&lt;br /&gt;
| NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/ROdsgYyheM4 &amp;quot;On Fire&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|Switchfoot&lt;br /&gt;
|This song is about keeping the faith, in people and in our religion.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pldyz9VS2yY ''Under God'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Pat Boone]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EBiei21-C8 ''King Without a Crown'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Matisyahu&lt;br /&gt;
|A Hasidic Jew raps about God as the source of happiness and salvation from the things of this world: &amp;quot;If you're drowning in the waters and you can't stay afloat ask |Hashem for mercy and He'll throw you a rope.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|7 (Hot Modern Rock Tracks)&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl6yilkU1LI ''Fast Car'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Tracy Chapman&lt;br /&gt;
|Self-help, free market, division of labor, and a criticism of alcohol.  &amp;quot;I know things will get better/You'll find work and I'll get promoted/We'll move out of the |shelter/Buy a bigger house and live in the suburbs&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|6&lt;br /&gt;
|Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDK9QqIzhwk ''Livin' on a Prayer'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Bon Jovi&lt;br /&gt;
|Organized labor is harmful to the welfare of workers, who turn to prayer.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/o-z2D9lo9-8 ''Bush Was Right'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Right Brothers&lt;br /&gt;
|Celebrating the Bush Administration's success and policies.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDSK98Y2FNg &amp;quot;Stop Global Whining&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|The Right Brothers&lt;br /&gt;
|Anti-Global Warming hoax song.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqXAW2snGMI ''Capitalism'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Oingo Boingo&lt;br /&gt;
|There's nothing wrong with free enterprise.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dHthaNNnds Keep On Loving You]&lt;br /&gt;
|REO Speedwagon&lt;br /&gt;
|Love overcomes infidelity &amp;quot;When I said that I love you I meant That I love you forever.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/oHg5SJYRHA0 ''Sweet Home Alabama'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Lynyrd Skynyrd]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A response to hippie culture. Defends Southerners from stereotyped attacks by [[liberal]], Canadian rocker Neil Young.  &amp;quot;Well, I hope Neil Young will remember/A Southern |man don't need him around anyhow.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|8&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5aMMRes2u4 ''Still the One'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Orleans&lt;br /&gt;
|A tribute to fidelity in relationships.&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/3530822107858733660/ ''What's The Use Of Wond'rin?'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Amanda Palmer&lt;br /&gt;
|Celebrates the command: &amp;quot;Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.&amp;quot; -Ephesians 5:22&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/Ke-r2K0ymWc ''Lightning Crashes'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Live&lt;br /&gt;
|The joy and significance of childbirth.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJprEyXMrIk''Takin' Care of Business'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Bachman-Turner Overdrive&lt;br /&gt;
|The work ethic and promoting self-employment.&lt;br /&gt;
|Twelve&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s5r2sp''Cat's In The Cradle'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Harry Chapin&lt;br /&gt;
|The importance of traditional families and responsible fatherhood.&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|Folk&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/bCFWyLwcR6E ''Thank You My Lord'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Petula Clark]]&lt;br /&gt;
|The title says it all.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/7NJMTmz7pkg ''Brick'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Ben Folds Five&lt;br /&gt;
|Shows the regret involved in abortion.&lt;br /&gt;
|6 (Modern Rock Tracks)&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://youtu.be/Dw6qmYX1ny4 ''Alive'']&lt;br /&gt;
|P.O.D.&lt;br /&gt;
|About being thankful for the gift of life.&lt;br /&gt;
|2 (US Alternative)&lt;br /&gt;
|Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_iNdbPvrYk ''Jesus Christ'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Brand New&lt;br /&gt;
|The singer turns to God for advice and assurance.&lt;br /&gt;
|thirty (Hot Modern Rock Tracks&lt;br /&gt;
|Spiritual&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU ''Jesus, Take The Wheel'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Carrie Underwood]]&lt;br /&gt;
|A gospel-themed hit from the American Idol winner.&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (US Country)&lt;br /&gt;
|Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPBwXKgDTdE ''Mine'']&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Taylor Swift]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Talks about how her parents stooped to [[liberal values]] and divorced, and how she doesn't want that to happen with the guy she meets, dates, and marries.&lt;br /&gt;
|1 (US Adult Contemporary)&lt;br /&gt;
|Pop/Country&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| I Won't Back down&lt;br /&gt;
| Tom Petty&lt;br /&gt;
| Talks about not backing down from a fight. Can be compared to not losing the Iraq War.&lt;br /&gt;
|N/A&lt;br /&gt;
| Rock&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v7xNSgBkum7o &amp;quot;Pray&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[MC Hammer]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Working hard and giving thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Rap/Pop&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4OI0GUCI_A ''Obama Nation''] and its sequel [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfoZaOJ5xo ''Obama Nation Part 3'']&lt;br /&gt;
|Lowkey&lt;br /&gt;
|A song sharply critical of [[Liberal]] president Barack Obama and his policies.  Also criticises those that blindly follow him due to his race: 'It's the substance within, not the colour of your skin'&lt;br /&gt;
|N/A&lt;br /&gt;
|Rap&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wrsZog8qXg ''Such Great Heights'']&lt;br /&gt;
|The Postal Service&lt;br /&gt;
|Creationist/Biblical lyrics: ''&amp;quot;And I have to speculate that God himself did make us into corresponding shapes like puzzle pieces from the clay.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
|?&lt;br /&gt;
|Indie&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
Please add your best conservative picks. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Debatable Whether Conservative ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The top five in a poll of the greatest songs in the 20th century, according to the Recording Industry Association of America and the [[NEA]]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*''Over the Rainbow'' (Judy Garland)&lt;br /&gt;
*''White Christmas'' (Bing Crosby)&lt;br /&gt;
*''Respect'' (Aretha Franklin)&lt;br /&gt;
*''American Pie'' (Don McLean)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Also questionable:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*''Rocky Raccoon'' (Beatles) - has multiple references to Gideon's Bible&lt;br /&gt;
*''Been to Hell'' (Hollywood Undead)-Despite the large amount of swearing, it talks about the destructive nature of Hollywood, including how Hollywood and the quest for fame can cause someone to lose their faith. It also criticizes Hollywood values.&lt;br /&gt;
*''Only the Good Die Young'' (Billy Joel)-a boy tries to convince a Catholic girl to have sex with him rather than practice [[abstinence]]. Although it contains a lot of anti-religious dialogue (from the boy's perspective), in the end the girl holds true to her values, and nothing happens between them.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://smartgirlpolitics.ning.com/group/support-conservative-entertainment Smart Girl Politics]&lt;br /&gt;
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| image        =[[Image:chavez.jpg|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
| name         =Hugo Chavez&lt;br /&gt;
| birth        =July 28, 1954&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Sabaneta, Venezuela&lt;br /&gt;
| parents      =Hugo de los Reyes Chávez&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Elena Frías de Chávez&lt;br /&gt;
| religion     =Roman Catholic&lt;br /&gt;
| education    =Daniel Florencio O'Leary High School, Barinas&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Venezuelan Academy of Military Sciences, Caracas&lt;br /&gt;
| spouse       =Nancy Colmenares (div.)&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Marisabel Rodríguez (div.)&lt;br /&gt;
| children     =Rosa Virginia&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;María Gabriela&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Hugo Rafael&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;Rosinés (with Marisabel)&lt;br /&gt;
| death        =Possible around 11 December 2012, likely in Havana.&lt;br /&gt;
| deathmanner  =Likely cancer&lt;br /&gt;
| burial       =unknown&lt;br /&gt;
| country      =[[Venezuela]]&lt;br /&gt;
| military     =Venezuelan army&lt;br /&gt;
| rank         =Lieutenant colonel&lt;br /&gt;
| polbeliefs   =[[Socialism]]&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;[[Communism]]&lt;br /&gt;
| party        =Fifth Republic Movement&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;United Socialist Party&lt;br /&gt;
| dictatordate =November 2000&lt;br /&gt;
| war          =n/a&lt;br /&gt;
| deathnumber  =n/a&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''Hugo Rafael Chávez Frías''' (b. July 28, 1954) is the repressive [[leftist]] [[tyrant]] of the Bolivarian Republic of [[Venezuela]].  &lt;br /&gt;
A self-proclaimed [[socialist]] and [[collectivist]], his disastrous economic policies have led to food shortages, quotas, and rationing in his oil-rich country, causing thousands to flee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/4938993/Venezuelas-Hugo-Chavez-tightens-state-control-of-food-amid-rocketing-inflation-and-food-shortages.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Chávez assumed power as President in 1999 and pledged to aid Venezuela's poor majority. &lt;br /&gt;
Fraudulent elections were held in 2000 and in 2006, allowing Chavez to retain his [[Authoritarianism|authoritarian]] power. As such it would be accurate to describe him as a [[dictator]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*{{Venezuela blunder}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to an illness, in early April 2012 &amp;quot;Hugo Chavez weeps and calls on [[God]] to spare his life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/venezuela/9189962/Hugo-Chavez-weeps-and-calls-on-God-to-spare-his-life.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  That contrasts with Jesus's request in his time of crisis, when [[Jesus]] prayed, &amp;quot;O Father, if You can, let this cup pass from Me. But ''don't do what I want, but rather what You want''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#26:39|Matthew 26:39]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On 7 October 2012, Chávez won election as president for a fourth time, defeating Henrique Capriles, and will serve another six years until 2019.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/08/venezuela-election-idUSL1E8L70WK20121008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chavez has not been seen in public since December 11, 2012. Venezuela's [[communist]] regime may be resorting to [[liberal denial]] about his death, much as in the case of [[Cuba]]'s [[Fidel Castro]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Election fraud==&lt;br /&gt;
Steven F. Hayward wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
* While exit polls conducted by the very reliable American firm of Penn, Schoen, and Berland showed Chavez losing by a large margin (41 to 59), the official results put Chavez free and clear by a vote of 58 to 41 percent.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=5A8D0094-4590-4DFB-A7F0-C2E06A6820FB]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 26 February 2003 report by Robert Tracinski obliterates the left-wing mythology around Chavez:&lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step one''': Chavez has initiated formal proceedings to revoke the licenses of independent, privately owned television and radio stations. Meanwhile, his political militias, the Bolivarian Circles, have staged violent attacks on independent media outlets. After all, elections don't mean much if all people watch is propaganda on state-run television. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step two''': Chavez has used a moratorium on currency conversion--needed to pay for imported goods--to punish his opponents. Vowing &amp;quot;no dollars for coup-mongers,&amp;quot; he has used this power, for example, to prevent opposition newspapers from importing ink. After all, elections don't mean much if your opponents are too busy worrying where their next meal is coming from. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step three''': Venezuelan police acting on Chavez's orders have arrested Carlos Fernandez, the head of Venezuela's largest business federation and a leader of the recent anti-Chavez strike, charging him with rebellion and sabotage. Another strike leader, Carlos Ortega, head of Venezuela's largest labor union, has gone into hiding. In one move, Chavez has neutralized two potential rivals for the presidency. After all, elections don't mean much if all of the other candidates are in jail. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step four''': Last week, four protesters were kidnapped while returning from an anti-Chavez rally. They were blindfolded, tortured, and shot execution-style. Some of the victims were witnesses to a previous pro-Chavez political killing, and they had planned to testify against the shooter. Consider the message sent to the opposition when the mutilated bodies of their friends start showing up in the city streets. After all, elections don't mean much if your opponents are afraid to leave their houses and walk to the polls. &lt;br /&gt;
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: '''Step five''': A few days ago, Chavez delivered a speech denouncing Spain, Colombia, and the US for interfering in Venezuela. This morning in Caracas, the diplomatic missions of Spain and Colombia were bombed. Credit was claimed by a splinter pro-Chavez group--but this was not a bunch of kids cooking up homemade bombs in their basement. The bombs were powerful plastic explosives, the kind of weapons that are difficult to obtain without government complicity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/2514-dictatorship-by-the-numbers-in-venezuela.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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$4 billion dollars were spent paying paramilitary groups to attack unarmed protestors and other dissidents during and after the elections.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/2968-venezuela-a-new-junket-for-a-dictator-s-best-friend-jimmy-carter.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The European Union condemned the conditions placed on election monitors as unacceptable and declined to attend.  The Carter Center was shut out for three days.  Experts from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University have identified signs of fraud based on statistical analysis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/3924-the-carter-stamp-of-approval-on-the-venueuzlan-election-less-than-worthless.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Human rights concerns==&lt;br /&gt;
Hugo Chávez is a great friend of the tyrannical [[Cuban]] despot [[Fidel Castro]] and is said to have drawn his political style through influences such as [[Che Guevara]], [[Karl Marx]] and [[Simon Bolivar]]. The U.S. State Department ''Report on Global Anti-Semitism'' cited Chavez in August 2004 warning citizens against following the lead of Jewish citizens in the effort to overturn his referendum victory.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/40258.htm Report on Global Anti-Semitism] U. S. Department of State, Bureau of Democracy, [[Human Rights]], and Labor, January 5, 2005. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Chavez has also embraced a number of world leaders that have hostile relations with the United States, including Holocaust-denier [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]], the President of [[Iran]], who Chavez has referred to as &amp;quot;my brother&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://english.eluniversal.com/2006/07/31/en_pol_art_31A756133.shtml Chávez decorated in Iran; initials cooperation pacts]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; U.S. Speaker of the House of Representatives [[Nancy Pelosi]] said of Chavez, &amp;quot;Hugo Chavez fancies himself a modern-day [[Simon Bolivar]], but all he is is an everyday thug.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/pruden092206.php3 Back to the old days, if only for a minute], Wesley Pruden, ''Jewish World Review'', Sept. 22, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He is also considered to be an ally of [[leftist]] [[Ecuador|Ecuadorian]] president [[Rafael Correa]], [[Bolivia|Bolivian]] president [[Evo Morales]] and the president of [[Nicaragua]], [[Daniel Ortega]] ... all radical leftists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6187364.stm Correa]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 2007, Chavez silenced the only remaining opposition television station critical of his repression by revoking its licence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guardian.co.uk/venezuela/story/0,,2085952,00.html Chávez silences critical TV station], Rory Carroll, ''The Guardian'', May 23, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Crowds of students demonstrated saying they feared for the future of human rights in Venezuala. National Guard troops were ordered to fire [[tear gas]] and [[rubber bullets]]. Two students were injured, a third was hit with a tear gas canister, and about 20 people needed emergency medical attention for inhaling tear gas. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/05/28/ap3763178.html Troops Fire Upon Protesters in Venezuela], Fabiola Sanchez, Associated Press, 05.28.07.  Retrieved from Forbes.com 05/31/07. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Chavez employs discrimination against [[migrant workers]] in the country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.capitalismmagazine.com/world/americas/3924-the-carter-stamp-of-approval-on-the-venueuzlan-election-less-than-worthless.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Chavez has said, “I am going to go after those who resist the revolution and eliminate them one by one.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.naplesnews.com/news/2007/jul/07/guest_commentary_we_must_help_venezuela_because_fr/ Because Freedom Matters], By U.S. Rep. Connie Mack IV and Blanquita Cullm, ''Naples Daily News'', July 7, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trafficking in Persons===&lt;br /&gt;
Venezuela under Chavez has been on the U.S. State Department’s Tier 3 list for [[trafficking in persons]] since 2004, which means that the government is categorized as one that has failed to make significant efforts to bring itself into compliance with the minimum standards for the elimination of trafficking in persons. The State Department’s June 2007 Trafficking in Persons (TIP) Report maintains that Venezuela is a source, transit, and destination country for women and children trafficked for [[sexual exploitation]] and [[forced labor]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Department of State, [http://www.state.gov/g/tip/rls/tiprpt/2007/ Trafficking in Persons Report], June 12, 2007, p. 207.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Relations with US==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Chavez Obama.jpg|thumb|At the Fifth Summit of the Americas.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Foreign relations between the [[United States of America]] and [[Venezuela]] are presently unstable. Chavez often criticizes the United States for its 'imperialism' on his radio segment 'Alo Presidente', and alleges the United States's supported a 2002 coup in Venezuela which toppled Chávez momentarily and later removed by Chávez supporters, also known as 'Chávistas'. Venezuela is heavily dependent upon trade revenue from oil sales to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Terrorism===&lt;br /&gt;
In May 2006, the State Department determined that, pursuant to Section 40A of the [[Arms Export Control Act]], Venezuela was not fully cooperating with U.S. [[antiterrorism]] efforts. This triggered a prohibition on the sale or license of defense articles and services to Venezuela. Other countries on the Section 40A list include [[Cuba]], [[Iran]], [[North Korea]], and [[Syria]], not to be confused with the &amp;quot;state sponsors of&lt;br /&gt;
terrorism&amp;quot; list under Section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act of 1979, which currently includes Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. The State Department asserted that the Section 40A determination was based on Venezuela’s near lack of antiterrorism cooperation over the last year, citing its support for Iraqi insurgents and Iran’s development of nuclear capabilities, the country’s status as a safe haven for Colombian and Basque terrorist groups, and its effort to derail hemispheric efforts to advance counter-terrorism policies in the OAS. In May 2007, the State Department again included Venezuela in its annual Section 40A determination that it was not cooperating fully with U.S. antiterrorism efforts.&lt;br /&gt;
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In late April 2007, the State Department issued its annual Country Reports on Terrorism, which asserted that President Chávez &amp;quot;persisted in public criticism of U.S. counterterrorism efforts, deepened Venezuelan relationships with Iran and Cuba, and was unwilling to prevent Venezuelan territory from being used as a safe haven&amp;quot; by Colombian terrorist groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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There have been long-held suspicions that Chávez has supported leftist Colombian guerrillas, although Chávez denies such support. The State Department’s terrorism report maintains that units of Colombia’s two leftist terrorist groups — the [[Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia]] (FARC) and the [[National Liberation Army]] (ELN) — often crossed into Venezuela &amp;quot;to rest and regroup with relative impunity.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, according to the report, splinter groups of the FARC and a rightist terrorist group, the [[AUC|United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia]] (AUC) reportedly operate in various parts of the country and are involved in drug trafficking. The report maintained, however, that &amp;quot;it remained unclear to what extent the Venezuelan&lt;br /&gt;
Government provided material support to Colombian terrorists.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, according to the report, Venezuelan citizenship, identity, and travel documents remained easy to obtain, making the country a potentially attractive waystation for terrorists. In July 13, 2006, congressional testimony, the State Department’s Principal Deputy Coordinator for Counterterrorism, Frank Urbancic, asserted that the United States was detaining increasing numbers of third-country aliens at its borders carrying falsified or fraudulently issued Venezuelan documents. U.S. officials also have expressed concerns about President Chávez’s close relationship with Cuba’s Fidel Castro, but Chávez defends his relationship with Cuba. Overall Venezuelan support to Cuba is estimated to be more than $2 billion a year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Frances Robles and Phil Gunson, ''Cuba Spotlights Chávez Friendship,'' Miami Herald, January 26, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Venezuela supplies some 90,000 barrels of oil per day to Cuba on a concessionary basis under PetroCaribe. In return, Venezuela has received support from thousands of Cuban health care workers and sports instructors in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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During an April 2005 trip to Cuba, Presidents Chávez and Castro announced commercial deals worth over $400 million, including a joint shipyard to build small navy ships and a joint housing construction company. In January 2007, a delegation of Cuban officials visited Caracas and signed a number of agreements to increase economic linkages, including an agreement for joint oil exploration in both countries.&lt;br /&gt;
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PdVSA is also involved in refurbishing an unfinished oil refinery in Cienfuegos, Cuba. Beyond Latin America, the Bush Administration has expressed concerns with Venezuela’s growing relations with Iran. In February 2006, Secretary of State Rice referred to Venezuela, along with Cuba, as “sidekicks” of Iran in reference to those countries’ votes in the International Atomic Energy Agency against reporting Iran to the U.N. Security Council over its uranium enrichment program.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Pablo Bachelet, “Rice Bashes Venezuelan Leader, Politics,” Miami Herald, February 17, 2006; House International Relations Committee, Hearing on the Fiscal Year 2007&lt;br /&gt;
International Affairs Budget, Testimony of Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, February&lt;br /&gt;
16, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In testimony before the Senate Select Intelligence Committee in February 2006, Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte expressed concern that President Chávez &amp;quot;is seeking closer economic, military, and diplomatic ties with Iran and North Korea.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Senate Select Intelligence Committee, Hearing on World Wide Threats, Testimony of Director of National Intelligence John Negroponte, February 2, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ran and Venezuela signed an agreement for a $200 million fund to finance joint investment and social projects, and commercial agreements in the early stages include plans for a cement factory, oil exploration in the Orinoco River belt, and a joint operation to build oil and liquid natural gas tankers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Steven Dudley, &amp;quot;Chávez’s Wooing of Iran Called Troubling,&amp;quot; Miami Herald, March 2, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; During a visit by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Venezuela in mid-January 2007, the two countries announced they would use a $2 billion investment fund to finance projects in both countries and other countries as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Simon Romero, ''Iranian President Visits Venezuela to Strengthen Ties,'' New York Times, January 14, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Some Members of Congress have expressed concerns about relations between Venezuela and Iran. In the 110th Congress, H.Res. 435 (Klein) would, among its provisions, express concern over national security implications of the relationship between the leaders of Iran and Venezuela.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the ''Washington Post'' Chavez has been accused of supplying weapons to Colombian rebels, of financing Bolivian and Ecuadorian groups seeking to establish &amp;quot;Marxist&amp;quot; states, and of being, with Cuban leader Fidel Castro's guidance, a &amp;quot;[[subversion (political)|subversive]]&amp;quot; everywhere else in the region.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/25/AR2005082501420.html?nav=rss_world/centralamerica ''Dealing With the Good and Bad Hugo Chavez''], Marcela Sanchez The Washington Post 25 August 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Expropriation==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Hugo-chavez8.jpg|left|175px|thumb|Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with Fidel Castro.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In typical socialist rhetoric, Chavez makes wild claims to fund the government by nationalizing foreign assets. Typical reasons include accusing companies of environmental damage and exploiting its workers. In 2010 alone, Chavez seized 195 companies. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://english.eluniversal.com/2010/10/20/en_eco_art_a-total-of-195-busin_20A4631291.shtml A total of 195 businesses has been seized in 2010, El Universal, October 20, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Spanish-owned farm supply and U.S.-based Ohio bottle company were recently taken over. Other recognized multi-national companies such ExxonMobil, steel maker Sidor, cement company CEMEX fell to the same fate. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wellsy.wordpress.com/2010/10/26/chavez-takes-over-venezuelan-plants-of-oh-company/ Chavez takes over Venezuelan plants of OH company, Wellsy's World, October 26, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Venezuala is supposed to compensate the companies but nobody expects Chavez to provide other than peanuts for assets he steals.&lt;br /&gt;
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Through Venezuela's state owned petroleum industry and membership in [[OPEC]], Chávez has now used powers granted to him by Parliament to increase oil prices, adding revenue for the Bolivarianist projects. Countries such as the United States have criticized Chávez for the increase in cost for crude oil.  Chavez is at the forefront of wanting to set crude oil prices at $60 a barrel minimum, according to the ''Asia Times''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/HL07Dj01.html ''Bush, OPEC and Chavez of Arabia''], Pepe Escobar, Asia Times, 7 December 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Anti-semitism==&lt;br /&gt;
Chavez is known to be fiercely [[Anti-semitism|anti-semitic]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commentarymagazine.com/viewarticle.cfm/hugo-ch-vez-s-jewish-problem-11455&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is the likely reason for his friendship and political alliance with Iranian dictator and [[Holocaust denial|holocaust denier]] [[Mahmoud Ahmadinejad]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402428.html&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. As a result of the anti-semitic policies of the Chavez regime and the wave of violent attacks on Venezuelan Jews that it has caused, the [[Jewish]] population of Venezuela has decreased by more than 50 percent since Chavez came to power.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.worldjewishdaily.com/venezuela.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Drug trafficking==&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Associated Press'' reported in  July 2007 that since Chavez's ascension to power, illegal narcotics passing through Venezuela from [[Colombia]] has risen by as much as 30 tons a year and now accounts for roughly a third of the world's supply of [[cocaine]].  Mildred Camero who was in charge of Venezuela's anti-drug efforts stated, &amp;quot;[[Caracas]] is replacing [[Bogota]] as a center of everything related to drug operations.&amp;quot; Camero was fired in 2005 after reporting high-level corruption. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/feeds/ap/2007/07/01/ap3875048.html Venezuela Becomes Cocaine Conduit], By Ian James and Frank Bajak, ''Associated Press'', 1 July 2007. Retrieved from Forbes.com 8 July 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008 Chavez revealed that he himself regularly chews coca leafs, the leafs from which cocaine is made.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uk.reuters.com/article/2008/01/26/uk-venezuela-chavez-coca-idUKN2638848320080126 Venezuela's Chavez swaps coffee for coca in speech - Reuters]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This revelation casts serious doubts about his ability to function properly as a head of state and reach sound judgements.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religious==&lt;br /&gt;
Chavez demanded that [[Pope Benedict]] apologize for saying the Roman Catholic Church purified Indians in Latin America. Chavez called the treatment of Indians after [[Christopher Columbus]] landed in 1492 a &amp;quot;holocaust&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSN1819661120070519 Chavez demands Pope apologize for Indian comments], Reuters, May 19, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==2011 Health Crisis==&lt;br /&gt;
On June 30th, 2011, the 56 year-old President admitted, in a televised speech, of having cancer. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-13991906]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
*On closure of RCTV, claiming the network's broadcasts amounted to a &amp;quot;permanent attack on public morals&amp;quot; with cartoons that were &amp;quot;poisoned with hatred, violence and even sex.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;Private banks have to give priority to financing the industrial sectors of Venezuela at low cost...If banks don't agree with this, it's better that they go, that they turn over the banks to me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Previous Breaking News/Hugo Chavez|Articles about '''Hugo Chavez''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Kim Jong Il]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Idi Amin Dada]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/] An in depth view on Venezuela under Hugo Chávez.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.latinbusinesschronicle.com/app/article.aspx?id=706] An overview of articles on Venezuela's business under Hugo Chávez.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-2_24_06_AVL.html ''Why The Left Should Cringe at The Mention of Hugo Chavez''], Alvaro Vargas Llosa, Independent Institute, February 24, 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_kmnew/is_200108/ai_kepm313968 ''Bolivar, Dictator or Paladin?''] Interview: Hugo Chavez talks about Venezuela, Maria Amparo Lasso, Newsweek, Aug 20, 2001.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* video makers via video making */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== video makers via video making ==&lt;br /&gt;
You've got the rhythm! Will we get an article on every anonymous fan of the [[Question evolution! campaign]]? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 06:00, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This wiki has about 40,000 content pages. Since the QEC will no doubt have a robust 2013, may your talk page comment be prophetic! :)  [[Shockofgod|This article]] is a pretty robust article in terms of its length. May the Djw0071 article greatly expand!  :) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Djw0071! Djw0071! Djw0071!  Faster! Stronger! Higher! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 08:32, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do smart people actually watch YouTube videos? I've seen a few, mostly of boring ugly people talking at a webcam or talking over stock footage/images that I've seen a thousand times before. I don't get why people would bother with such things. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 09:25, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCkYw3cRwLo Check and indeed mate!] It seems you are missing out on a lot. [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 09:36, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, that made me feel a little bit dumber. I'll stick to books, I think. If things like that represent the &amp;quot;Best of the Public,&amp;quot; I despair. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 10:34, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: &lt;/p&gt;
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You've got the rhythm! Will we get an article on every anonymous fan of the [[Question evolution! campaign]]? --[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 06:00, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This wiki has about 40,000 content pages. Since the QEC will no doubt have a robust 2013, may your talk page comment be prophetic! :)  [[Shockofgod|This article]] is a pretty robust article in terms of its length. May the Djw0071 article greatly expand!  :) &lt;br /&gt;
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:Djw0071! Djw0071! Djw0071!  Faster! Stronger! Higher! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 08:32, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do smart people actually watch YouTube videos? I've seen a few, mostly of boring ugly people talking at a webcam or talking over stock footage/images that I've seen a thousand times before. I don't get why people would bother with such things. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 09:25, 27 December 2012 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Essay:Worst Liberal Movies</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: Undo revision 1025206 by Danielspence (talk) Seriously? Lord of the Rings promotes bestiality? Remove obvious parody.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;While many [[Essay:Greatest_Conservative_Movies|great conservative movies]] are produced every year, [[Hollywood values|Hollywood]] continues to create many movies which promote, normalize and aggrandize bad behavior and poor values. Below is a list of some of the more egregious examples:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Political==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Film&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Rating&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Gross (Domestic)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Game Change''&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberal haters playing conservatives in a HBO movie about [[Sarah Palin]]. Many debunked controversies are highlighted in the plot. Both [[John McCain|McCain]] and Palin call it fiction.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA - TV&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Frost/Nixon]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A liberal movie meant to further tarnish the reputation of [[Richard Nixon]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$18,622,031&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[W.]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|A movie designed to denigrate the role of Christianity in US politics and particularly in the life of [[George W. Bush]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$25,534,493&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Fahrenheit 9/11]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2004&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A Michael Moore movie, which distorts the tangential link between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family.&lt;br /&gt;
|$119,194,771&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Motorcycle Diaries'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2004&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A fawning monument to communist [[Che Guevara]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$16,781,387&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Contender''&lt;br /&gt;
|2000&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Political movie turned into pro-[[Al Gore]] propaganda by liberal studio executives and [[Hollywood values]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$17,872,723&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''V for Vendetta'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2005&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Blatantly glorifies [[anarchism]], [[socialism]], [[communism]] and [[homosexuality]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$70,511,035&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Dead Man Walking'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1995&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A senseless criticism of capital punishment, with an ending that left some liberal viewers even more confused.&lt;br /&gt;
|$39,363,635&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Nixon'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1995&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A historically inaccurate biography of Richard Nixon directed by liberal filmmaker [[Oliver Stone]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$13,681,765&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Milk'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2008 &lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|An extremely pro-[[gay]] biography of openly homosexual politician [[Harvey Milk]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$31,841,299&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Capitalism: A Love Story]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|A typical Michael Moore hatchet-job where he relentlessly attacks America's capitalist economy with claims of alleged financial inequality.&lt;br /&gt;
|$14,363,397&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The China Syndrome''&lt;br /&gt;
|1979&lt;br /&gt;
|PG&lt;br /&gt;
|The movie depicts a meltdown of a fictional nuclear power plant. The film greatly over-hypes this risk of a nuclear meltdown and the resultant damage. This film along with the Three Mile Island incident (which occurred shortly after the film's release) are often credited for killing the nuclear power industry in America.&lt;br /&gt;
|$51,718,367&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[SiCKO|Sicko]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Another Michael Moore film which spread many falsehoods about American healthcare while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of socialized healthcare. Memorably referred to Cuban healthcare as being better than American healthcare. &lt;br /&gt;
|$24,540,079&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Apocalypse Now''&lt;br /&gt;
|1979&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Overindulgent anti-war diatribe. Portrays US servicemen as corrupt, incompetent drug-users.&lt;br /&gt;
|$78,784,010&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Fair Game''&lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Another Bush bash flick starring communist Sean Penn. 2010 film rehashes the lead up to the war in Iraq and Valerie Plame's role. Typical un-American Hollywood film &amp;quot;The narrative that Karl Rove and Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff Scooter Libby were nefarious behind-the-scenes players intent on destroying innocent reputations while pushing the nation into war on false pretenses.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|$9,540,691&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Recount''&lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|The 2008 HBO movie on the 2000 Presidential elections and its aftermath in Florida. A look into how the Republicans stole the election and the role of its party members that made it happen. Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real Warren Christopher and James Baker contend the film’s portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA - TV&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Redacted''&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Brian De Palma’s 2007 fictional anti-Iraq War film funded by Mark Cuban. The film is credited with inspiring a terrorist attack that killed two U.S. servicemen in Germany.&lt;br /&gt;
|$65,388&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''U-571''&lt;br /&gt;
|2000&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Had a plot which was based on the first capture of a German Enigma machine in World War 2. However, in the film the capture is made by Americans. In fact the first Enigma machine was captured by the British in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war. &lt;br /&gt;
|$77,122,415&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Born on the Fourth of July''&lt;br /&gt;
|1989&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Radically anti-[[Vietnam War]] film.&lt;br /&gt;
|$70,001,698&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Social==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Film&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Rating&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Gross (Domestic)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Dazed and Confused''&lt;br /&gt;
|1993&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Promotes promiscuity and drug abuse.&lt;br /&gt;
|$7,993,039&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Avatar]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|A movie with many destructive messages.  The movie promotes environmentalism, claiming that nature is God, and feminism.  It also ridicules the military and large businesses.  The hero of the film also forms a rather creepy romance with the native princess, who is of another species, perhaps a symbol for bestiality.&lt;br /&gt;
|$760,507,625&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Blow''&lt;br /&gt;
|2001&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Glorifies the life of drug dealer, and suspected murderer, George Jung.&lt;br /&gt;
|$52,990,775&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Pineapple Express'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Shows drug abuse to be &amp;quot;cool&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|$87,341,380&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Organizer''&lt;br /&gt;
|1963&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|Italian film that promotes unions.  The movie also promotes infidelity.&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Natural Born Killers'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1994&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Riddled with violence, drug abuse and sexual references, this movie's main characters are brutal serial killers who are viewed as heroes.&lt;br /&gt;
|$50,282,766&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Brokeback Mountain]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2005&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Showing that [[liberals]] will shoehorn the homosexual agenda into anything, even cowboys.&lt;br /&gt;
|$83,043,761&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Boogie Nights'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1997&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Made the porn industry and exploitation of women look cool.&lt;br /&gt;
|$26,400,640&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Social Network'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Glorifies the gossip website [[Facebook]], which feeds narcissism and destroys marriages.  Also portrays drug use and misogyny in a positive light.&lt;br /&gt;
|$96,962,694&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Day After Tomorrow'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2004&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Overdramatic, nonsensical portrayal of the consequences of fictional [[climate change]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$186,740,799&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The People vs. Larry Flynt'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1996&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Idealizes [[pornography]] mogul [[Larry Flynt]] and argues that pornography is protected by the [[First Amendment]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$20,300,385&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''But I'm a Cheerleader'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Portrays [[homosexuality]] as a legitimate lifestyle, attacks and ridicules [[reparative therapy]] and religious people.&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Orgazmo'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1997&lt;br /&gt;
|NC-17&lt;br /&gt;
|Portrays the porn industry in a positive light, mocks Mormons and the religiously devout.&lt;br /&gt;
|$602,302&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Rent'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2005&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Promotes [[homosexuality]] and transvestitism as normal lifestyle. &lt;br /&gt;
|$29,077,547&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Pink Flamingos''&lt;br /&gt;
|1972&lt;br /&gt;
|NC-17&lt;br /&gt;
|Embraces horrifying people, who engage in such acts as incest and [[beastiallity]], as well as promoting the homosexual agenda, since it stars transvestite Divine and shows homosexuals in a positive light.  This film has toilet humor, finding it funny when a character literally eats poo, and extremely offensive language, one character is even named after a racial slur against white people.  Characters promote anarchy and violence as an everyday thing.  A very graphic film, even for most liberals, showing close ups of genitalia unlike any non porno film.  Liberals call it a comedy, but it is more like an act of Satin.&lt;br /&gt;
|$7,000,000&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Kids'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1995&lt;br /&gt;
|NC-17&lt;br /&gt;
|Pornographic film concerning five underage teenagers in New York City engaging in graphic sex, violent acts, [[drug]]/[[alcohol]] use and homosexual activities.&lt;br /&gt;
|$7,412,216&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Clerks]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1994&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Filled with constant vulgar profanity. Previously rated NC-17 before being appealed for an R rating.&lt;br /&gt;
|$3,151,130&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Clerks 2''&lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Sequel to the liberal comedy, filled with more profanity and even more disgusting acts that could not be in the budget of the original film.&lt;br /&gt;
|$24,148,068&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Kids Are All Right'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Portrays homosexuality and gay parenting as normal lifestyle.&lt;br /&gt;
|$20,811,365&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Day After''&lt;br /&gt;
|1983&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|Attacks the military and conservative politicians, and encourages negotiation with communists.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA - TV&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Princess and the Frog''&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|G&lt;br /&gt;
|Promotes feminism.&lt;br /&gt;
|$104,400,899&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Project X''&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Shows teen drinking, [[drug]] use, sex, vulgar profanity and anarchic behavior to be &amp;quot;cool&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|$54,731,865&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Boys Don't Cry''&lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Glorifies the choice of a young girl to embrace homosexual and transgender life choices, dishonesty and pre-marital relations; as well as unfairly caricaturing and exaggerating natural reactions to her perversion; all in aid of promoting the [[homosexual agenda]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$11,533,945&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Beginners''&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Promotes homosexuality and &amp;quot;[[coming out of the closet]]&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
|$5,790,894&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle''&lt;br /&gt;
|2004&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|The adventures of the pot-smoking duo that play up ethnic stereotypes. &lt;br /&gt;
|$18,250,550&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''American Pie''&lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|First installment of a long-running film franchise primarily dealing with teenage sex and alcohol. It relies on jokes about sex and bodily functions.&lt;br /&gt;
|$102,561,004&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''There's Something About Mary''&lt;br /&gt;
|1998&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Contains gratuitous sex and jokes about bodily functions.&lt;br /&gt;
|$176,484,651&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Philadelphia''&lt;br /&gt;
|1993&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Homosexual agenda setting drama.&lt;br /&gt;
|$77,446,440&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Jackass: The Movie''&lt;br /&gt;
|2002&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Essentially a montage of ridiculous stunts and pranks with no coherent story.&lt;br /&gt;
|$64,255,312 &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Schlockumentary==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Film&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Rating&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Gross (Domestic)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|Almost any movie by [[Michael Moore]]&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[An Inconvenient Truth]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|PG&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Al Gore]]'s [[global warming]] alarmist [[schlockumentary]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$24,146,161&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[The Road We’ve Traveled]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Not rated&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Tom Hanks]] directs &amp;amp; narrates Barack Obama's supposed achievements&lt;br /&gt;
|NA&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Truthers]] Dylan Avery and Korey Rowe blame America for 9/11&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Super Size Me'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2004&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Blames obesity on great capitalist paragons like [[McDonald's]] and [[Sodexo]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$11,536,423&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Religulous]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Comedian&amp;quot; Bill Maher tries to convince the audience of the folly of all religion, with special focus on Christianity.&lt;br /&gt;
|$13,011,160&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Jesus Camp]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2006 &lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Baselessly attacks Conservative Christianity; incited liberal vandalism of the Bible camp shown in the film.&lt;br /&gt;
|$902,544&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Inside Job'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|A 2010 film by Democrat donor Charles Ferguson that blames the Great Recession on Wall Street, deregulation, the Bush Administration. The film whitewashes Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's role and claims the financial system corrupted politics. Capitalists are the bad guys. &lt;br /&gt;
|$4,312,735&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[The 11th Hour]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|PG&lt;br /&gt;
|Environmental schlockumentary produced and narrated by actor Leonardo DiCaprio which endorses the theory of Anthropogenic global warming.&lt;br /&gt;
|$707,343&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[Bowling for Columbine]]''&lt;br /&gt;
|2002&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A 2002 schlockumentary directed by and starring leftist propagandist Michael Moore. It is a pro-gun control film, and distorts facts in favor of gun control.&lt;br /&gt;
|$21,576,018&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Tillman Story''&lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|A liberals view of the circumstances surrounding the death of football star and Army Ranger Pat Tillman. The film portrays each and every fact as sinister. Plus, each and every fact is evidence of a conspiracy. Typical Hollywood George W. Bush bashing flick. The bias was clear, make Tillman a liberal atheist anti-war hero that was cannon-fodder for the government. Tillman's actions speak louder than any twisted accusations presented in this documentary.&lt;br /&gt;
|$802,535&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Better This World''&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|2011 documentary &amp;quot;feature length lie&amp;quot; is a PBS film regarding the thwarted domestic terrorist attack at the 2008 Republican National Convention and liberals attempt to re-write history.&lt;br /&gt;
|NA - TV&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Winter Soldier''&lt;br /&gt;
|1972&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|The 1972 film about U.S. troops from Vietnam put on record as baby killers, human rights violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in Vietnam and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in Congress over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Anti-Religious==&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable sortable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Film&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Rating&lt;br /&gt;
!Comments&lt;br /&gt;
!Gross (Domestic)&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Dogma'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Mocks religion and [[Catholic]]ism in particular, with cheap smutty jokes and portraying [[God]] as female.&lt;br /&gt;
|$30,652,890&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''The Golden Compass'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Based on the atheistic ''His Dark Materials'' series.&lt;br /&gt;
|$70,107,728&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Priest'' &lt;br /&gt;
|1994&lt;br /&gt;
|R&lt;br /&gt;
|Blatantly anti-Catholic and pro-gay.&lt;br /&gt;
|$4,165,845&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''[[The Da Vinci Code]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|PG-13&lt;br /&gt;
|Promotes the false theory that Jesus Christ married [[Mary Magdalene]].&lt;br /&gt;
|$217,536,138&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|''Inherit the Wind''&lt;br /&gt;
|1960&lt;br /&gt;
|Not Rated&lt;br /&gt;
|Hollywood perpetuated complete lies about the Scopes Trial in this film in order to smear Christianity, including: portraying William Jennings Bryan as being ignorant, harsh and punitive, based on a false portrayal of his actions and testimony, falsely claiming that at the end Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid caring and reasonable Darwinists and falsely portraying the Darwinists in a positive light and the Christians as deceitful. In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did. &lt;br /&gt;
|Unknown&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
please add more!&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Essays]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Cinema]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Hollywood]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Worst Liberal Movies]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MattyD</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Reasons_Romney_Lost&amp;diff=1024888</id>
		<title>Reasons Romney Lost</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-24T19:37:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Reasons [[Mitt Romney|Romney]] Lost''' include:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*weakness on the social issues, such as [[abortion]] and [[same-sex marriage]]&lt;br /&gt;
*fell for [[neoconservative]] claptrap to support foreign interventionalism, causing Romney to lose the last two debates&lt;br /&gt;
*misguided strategy to focus on only the economy&lt;br /&gt;
*ostracized [[Ron Paul]] and his millions of supporters&lt;br /&gt;
*spent six years running for president, yet never attempted to learn conservative language and principles&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Instead, Romney would make insincere gaffes like claiming to be &amp;quot;severely conservative.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*never emphasized the need to improve [[public schools]], as [[George W. Bush]] did successfully in 2000&lt;br /&gt;
*spent his campaign money on high-priced but ineffective consultants&lt;br /&gt;
*failed to run effective political ads against [[Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
*badly out-of-touch with the common man, and made no real attempt to connect -- see the infamous &amp;quot;47% video.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
*his expensive &amp;quot;Orca&amp;quot; election day &amp;quot;get out the vote&amp;quot; technology failed&lt;br /&gt;
*no meaningful outreach to young people&lt;br /&gt;
*overplayed the &amp;quot;family man&amp;quot; stuff to the point of irritation about his lack of concern for other people less fortunate&lt;br /&gt;
*surrounded himself by [[RINO]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*unnecessarily lashed out at [[Todd Akin]] in a way that cost him pro-life volunteers and convinced millions that Romney would be a puppet for the media&lt;br /&gt;
*clueless about the [[Democrat]] [[early voting]] machine that resulted in more than a million early votes by mail for Obama in [[Ohio]], and could have elected Mickey Mouse&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(please improve or add to the list)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Presidential Election 2012]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:politics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MattyD</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Netball&amp;diff=1024660</id>
		<title>Netball</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Netball&amp;diff=1024660"/>
		<updated>2012-12-23T14:17:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* Politics of netball */ Both of the referenced articles CLEARLY state that netball is not played at the Olympics.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;'''Netball''' is a team sport that is played on a court with seven players on each side.&lt;br /&gt;
==History==&lt;br /&gt;
[[James Naismith]] invented [[basketball]] in 1891 in [[Springfield, Massachusetts]].  At the time, he did not standardize the number of players on each side, but allowed a variable number to accommodate the number of players present.  Basketball quickly spread to London, England in 1893, where some people questioned its suitability for women and their clothing.  Netball as a sport separate from basketball traces back to [[Martina Bergman-Österberg]] who introduced it in 1893 to her female students at the Physical Training College in [[Hampstead]], London.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McIntosh, Peter C. (1968). Physical Education in England Since 1800. London: Bell. ISBN 071350689X. OCLC 41636 p. 292&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 1901, the Ling Association (later the Physical Education Association of the United Kingdom) published the first codified rules of netball.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Taylor, Tracy (November 2001). &amp;quot;Gendering Sport: The Development of Netball in Australia&amp;quot;. ''Sporting Traditions, Journal of the Australian Society for Sports History'' '''18''' (1): 57–74.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Although netball spread to some Commonwealth countries, it never gained the popularity of basketball.  Different nations used different rules for the game. In 1957, International Federation of Netball and Women's Basketball (later the International Federation of Netball Associations (IFNA)) was formed to administer the sport worldwide under standardized rules.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Cite web |author=International Federation of Netball Associations |title=About IFNA |url=http://www.netball.org/ifna.aspx |accessdate=2011-06-28}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In order to obtain funding, the IFNA then lobbied the [[International Olympic Committee]] (IOC) for two decades to seek recognition.  In 1995, the IOC recognized the IFNA as an international sports federation, although that step does not make netball an Olympic sport.&lt;br /&gt;
==Rules==&lt;br /&gt;
A netball court is 50 feet wide and 100 feet long and is divided into three zones. Basketball hoops and nets are placed 10 feet above the court without backboards, and there is a 16 foot radius shooting circle around each goal instead of a free throw lane. At any time, only seven players are allowed on the court for each team, and each player is declared to have a specific positions. Each player wears a square sign that shows an abbreviation of his or her position. The seven positions are Goal Keeper (GK), Goal Defence (GD), Wing Defence (WD), Center (C), Wing Attack (WA), Goal Attack (GA) and Goal Shooter (GS). Because running and dribbling was considered unladylike, the rules limit the movement of each player and the ball advances toward the goals by passing. To keep the players spread out over the court, the rules limit where each player may go during the game. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Goal Attack and Goal Shooter are the only players allowed in the attacking shooting circle and therefore are the only players that are allowed to shoot for goal. Goal Shooter is restricted to the third that includes the shooting circle, while Goal Attack is also allowed in the central third. Goal Keeper and Goal Defence are the only players allowed in the defensive shooting circle and try and prevent the opposition from shooting goals. The Goal Keeper is restricted to the defensive third and tends to mark the Goal Shooter, while Goal Defence can also move into the central third and tends to mark the Goal Attack. Wing Defence is restricted to the defensive two-thirds of the court and Wing Attack to the attacking two-thirds, while Center can move through any of the thirds. However, neither of these positions are allowed in the shooting circles and their objective is to either move the ball to a player that can shoot or to prevent the opposition from doing so.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hickey, Julia; Navin, Anita (2007). Understanding netball. Coachwise. ISBN 9781905540129. OCLC 174094782&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==Politics of netball==&lt;br /&gt;
Because women teams have competed in basketball at the Olympic Summer Games since 1976, it is highly unlikely that netball will ever become an Olympic sport.  The IOC has selected its sports through 2016, and netball has never been selected for inclusion in the Olympics.  However, a number of Commonwealth nations have sent women to the Olympics to play basketball, and have funded the development of women's basketball teams.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Historically, the IFNA and national netball governing bodies have been staffed exclusively by women with little professionalization or commercialization.  As sports marketing has evolved into an international and highly commercial industry, there has been political conflict over the leadership and funding of netball.  Reformers have advocated changing the presentation of the game to emphasize athleticism and to make the game more spectator friendly.  Radical feminists have argued that because the game is mostly played by women and has a large number of women administrators, it should be entitled to funding and inclusion in the Olympics on the basis of gender equity regardless of its international obscurity.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:sports]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MattyD</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Dog&amp;diff=1024598</id>
		<title>Dog</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Dog&amp;diff=1024598"/>
		<updated>2012-12-23T01:35:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: /* Conservative Nature of Dogs */ Remove blatant parody.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Taxonomy|image = akitadog.jpg|kingdom = Animalia|phylum = Chordata|subphylum = Vertebrata|class = Mammalia|order = Carnivora|suborder = Caniformia  |family = Canidae|genus = Canis|species = lupus|sub = C. l. familiaris (Domesticated dog)}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Dogs''' are one of the most well-known domesticated [[species]], with archaeological and historical records showing that they have lived in a mutually beneficial relationship with humans for thousands of years.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Offspring are called ''pups'' (or ''puppies'') until around a year old. The collective noun for a group of offspring is a ''litter''. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Research has shown that it is probable that the first settlers respectively of the [[America]]s and [[Australia]] brought dogs of some sort with them. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Scientific details ==&lt;br /&gt;
Dogs (scientific name ''Canis lupus familiaris'') are a subspecies of [[wolf|wolves]], divided into a multitude of different breeds all in principle capable of interbreeding (though in some cases, physical relations between representatives of two breeds are unlikely or problematic - Chihuahuas and Great Danes, for example).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Fossils of canine skulls smaller than those of wolves have been found with human artifacts, with dates based on evolutionary assumptions estimated to between 130,000 and 190,000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;DK&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Kingsley, Danny, [http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s513072.htm Humans live a dog's life]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; whilst DNA evidence has been used to suggest that dogs diverged from wolves between 100,000 and 135,000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;DK&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Vila, Carles; Carles Vila, Peter Savolainen, Jesus E. Maldonado, Isabel R. Amorim, John E. Rice, Rodney L. Honeycutt, Keith A. Crandall, Joakim Lundeberg, Wayne, Robert F. (1997-01-30; accepted 1997-04-14). [http://www.mnh.si.edu/GeneticsLab/StaffPage/MaldonadoJ/PublicationsCV/Science_Dog_Paper.pdf Multiple and ancient origins of the domestic dog], ''Science'' 276: 1687-1689. Retrieved on 2006-12-09.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Secular archeology has placed the earliest known domestication at potentially 12,000 BC-10,000 BC and with certainty at 7,000 BC. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott, John Paul (1965), Dog behavior: The genetic basis, University of Chicago Press. ISBN 0-226-74338-1.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dogs are also viewed as being the single most genetically diverse species on Earth - largely thanks to human-imposed selective breeding, the vast array of dog breeds surpasses any other creature on the planet. Due to selective breeding by man, however, many breeds of dog have significant [[gene|genetic]] disorders. These include hip dysplasia (common with German Shepherds), and respiratory problems caused by shortening of the face, as seen with Boxer dogs and the Bulldog's lip. To overcome the prevalence of genetic disorders rendered common by inbreeding, many breeders regularly practice outcrossing, or introducing new material into a breed line via mating with other kinds of dog. This restores vigor to a breed and can decrease the likelihood of genetic disorders manifesting.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Bites ==&lt;br /&gt;
Despite being  colloquially known as &amp;quot;man's best friend&amp;quot;, every 40 seconds, someone in the [[United States of America|United States]] seeks medical help for a dog bite, with approximately 800,000 such bites per year requiring medical attention.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Due to the high cost of dog bite liability claims, some [[insurance]] companies have blacklisted certain breeds and refuse to provide homeowners insurance to those who own these dog breeds. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dogbitelegalcenter.com/resources/common-dogs.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Uses ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Dogs are used for many purposes:&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Divot the Therapy Dog.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Divot was a therapy dog at Fawcett Memorial Hospital in Port Charlotte, [[Florida]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Being a companion for the old or lonely&lt;br /&gt;
*Guarding property and livestock&lt;br /&gt;
*Herding [[sheep]] and [[cow|cattle]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Tracking by scent, carrying messages, and mountain and water rescue&lt;br /&gt;
*Pursuing, flushing and retrieving game, and killing [[vermin]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Providing assistance to people with disabilities&lt;br /&gt;
*Military and police duties including guarding, tracking, interrogation, and attacking. In [[World War II]], the [[Soviet Union]] attempted to train dogs to place explosive charges under German [[tank]]s&lt;br /&gt;
*To detect cadavers, explosives, or illegal drugs (German Shepherds are commonly trained to do so by police)&lt;br /&gt;
*As a beast of burden, or for drawing sledges, sleighs, and dogcarts&lt;br /&gt;
* As a performing animal. [[Circus]] dogs have been trained to dance, ride bicycles, speak, and walk the tightrope&lt;br /&gt;
* For fighting, now illegal in most places, e.g. everywhere in USA&lt;br /&gt;
*As food. Dog is still considered a delicacy in [[China]], [[Korea]] and parts of [[Africa]] today&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Today most dogs in western countries are kept for [[pet|companionship]] only. Stray and feral dogs cause many problems, spreading diseases such as [[rabies]], and attacking people and [[livestock]].  Muslims see dogs as unclean, and often kill dogs found as pets &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2065873,00.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.mastiffexperts.com Mastiff Experts]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Nb_zl_canines}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Template:Dog breeds}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Canines]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Biblical Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Domestic Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Animals]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MattyD</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Young_mass_murderers&amp;diff=1023512</id>
		<title>Young mass murderers</title>
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		<updated>2012-12-16T14:28:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: Inserting fact tags in place of reference which does not contain said information.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Recent increases in tragic mass-murders perpetrated by young individuals have prompted questions about their rationale for doing so.  Below is evidence that their motives have been overwhelmingly [[atheism|atheistic]] or [[liberal]], or driven by hatred of [[God]].  Virtually all of these killers are the product of [[public schools]] and most were big [[video game]] players.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
!Education&lt;br /&gt;
!Killed&lt;br /&gt;
!Wounded&lt;br /&gt;
!Beliefs&lt;br /&gt;
![[Liberal]] response&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Adam Lanza&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57559316-504083/connecticut-school-shooting-suspected-shooter-now-idd-as-adam-lanza-older-brother-ryan-questioned-by-cops/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] honors student&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Adam Lanza&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ap-source-suspect-killed-his-mother-at-their-home-before-going-on-school-rampage/2012/12/14/8ee3709e-464f-11e2-8c8f-fbebf7ccab4e_story.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Homeschool]]ed for some time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/nyregion/friends-of-gunmans-mother-his-first-victim-recall-her-as-generous.html?_r=0]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|27, including the murderer and 20 children&lt;br /&gt;
|not yet known&lt;br /&gt;
|a video game player who particularly liked the violent &amp;quot;Dynasty Warriors,&amp;quot; {{fact}} he was &amp;quot;goth&amp;quot; {{fact}} and wore a mask {{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
|not a word by the [[liberal media]] about violent video games, but instead they demand [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Jacob Tyler Roberts is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] and a [[Facebook]] user&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-gunman-wanted-kill-people/story?id=17941415#.UMkG84PHegI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|2, including the murderer&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|played video games (his rampage enacted a scene in ''Grand Theft Auto''); he dressed in black for the murders as other young mass murderers have, and donned a hockey mask perhaps inspired by [[Hollywood]] horror films&lt;br /&gt;
|a day later, authorities and the [[liberal media]] still have disclosed almost nothing about the murderer; instead, [[liberals]] almost immediately demanded more [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|[[James Eagan Holmes‎|James Holmes]] is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|PhD student at [[University of Colorado]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/colorado-shooting-james-holmes_n_1688996.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|12&lt;br /&gt;
|58&lt;br /&gt;
|Like other young mass murderers, dressed in all-black for the killings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was obsessed with playing [[video games]] like &amp;quot;World of Warcraft&amp;quot; (see Breivik below);&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-shooter-guitar-hero-dark-knight/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for the murderous rampage, he dyed his hair bright red presumably to imitate the Joker (Batman's nemesis).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-joker/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/ABC/status/226365875245178880&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[ABC News]] suggests tie to [[Tea Party]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/tea-party-frequent-suspect-for-media/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Liberals call for gun control.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/367020/20120726/james-holmes-court-colorado-shooting-barack-obama.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;T.J. Lane&amp;quot; of the Cleveland area&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57386938/suspect-in-ohio-school-shooting-arrives-at-court/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Posted a chilling rant on [[Facebook]] about two months before his murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|Insists he was a victim of bullying, which several students who knew him denied.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/two-reported-dead-three-injured-in-ohio-school-shooting-20120228&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Anders Behring Breivik&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wect.com/story/15134203/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|public school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;He was 32 years old at the time of the crime.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|68 shot dead at a youth camp of the Norwegian Labor party, another 8 in a bombing of government buildings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2011/07/25/breivik-bought-chemicals-in-poland-security-agency-says/?mod=google_news_blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
|Many continued to be missing after the killing rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|According to the judgement rendered against him, he liked playing violent [[video games]] and saw himself as &amp;quot;ultra-nationalist&amp;quot; who fought against [[Muslim]] immigration and [[Marxist]] subversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://da.scribd.com/doc/103815386/LOVDATA-DOM-toslo-2011-188627-24 Court's judgment in the case against Anders Behring Breivik], Oslo, 24 Aug 2012&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|A typical headline in the [[liberal]] media blames fundamentalist [[Christianity]], while nearly ignoring his hobby of playing violent video games.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Jared Lee Loughner&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Suspected gunman as identified in the media.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public high school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|6&lt;br /&gt;
|at least 17, including a congresswoman&lt;br /&gt;
|a [[nihilist]]; &amp;quot;left wing, quite liberal ... a political radical&amp;quot; and he declared that ''[[The Communist Manifesto]]'', ''[[Animal Farm]]'' and ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' are among his favorite books&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jared-lee-laughners-youtube-site-reveals-clues-about-killer-lists-mein-kampf-and-communist-m&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|It's [[Sarah Palin]]'s fault because nearly one year earlier she had posted targets on 20 congressional districts for Republican wins, and this massacre (by a liberal) occurred in one of those districts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.forbes.com/carolinehoward/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-and-sarah-palins-conscience/ &amp;quot;Gabrielle Giffords' Shooting And Sarah Palin's Conscience.&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Amy Bishop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[professor values|professor]], and daughter of a professor&lt;br /&gt;
|3, + many reporters believe brother in 1986 &lt;br /&gt;
|3, was also a suspect in attempted murder in 1993&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;was a far-left political extremist who was 'obsessed' with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&amp;amp;position=0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|liberals liked her: she &amp;quot;was admired by her peers and loved by her students&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;was a super intelligent person.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100214everybody_described_her_as_gentle/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|Tim Kretschmer&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Germany]] [[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|15 + himself&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Reports were that the police did not mortally wound him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1161139/Are-dead-Police-gun-ex-student-17-targeted-women-German-school-massacre.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|several others&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|Europe calls for more [[gun control]]; [[liberal]] media promotes falsehood: &amp;quot;We'll never know why they kill.&amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/12/greene.shootings/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|Stephen Kazmierczak&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Northern Illinois University]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|16&lt;br /&gt;
|Fan of [[Nietzsche]]'s &amp;quot;The Antichrist,&amp;quot; obsessed with self-injury, was a &amp;quot;cutter&amp;quot; in [[public high school]], wore all black to carry out his massacre, and was still a [[public school]] student at age 27&lt;br /&gt;
|Feigned shock at the fact that the gunman didn't &amp;quot;fit&amp;quot; the typical mold of a killer, when in fact the gunman wore all black and was taught at a [[public school]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Hawkins&lt;br /&gt;
|Papillion-La Vista public high school&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Targeted [[Christmas]] shoppers; wore black; &amp;quot;I can't take this meaningless existence anymore&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.omaha08dec08,0,6053469.story Baltimore Sun]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Told a therapist that &amp;quot;he is not sure if there is a [[God]] or life after death and that when he dies, he'll probably go to hell.&amp;quot; Told social workers he was [[Satan|satanic]] and acknowledged that he often acted before thinking of the consequences. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318506,00.html Mall Gunman Admitted He was Satanic, Attempted Suicide], [[Associated Press]], [[Fox News Channel]], December 27, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Avoided suggesting [[gun control]] lest [[Democrats]] lose [[West Virginia]] and [[Wisconsin]] in [[2008 presidential election]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Pekka-Eric Auvinen&lt;br /&gt;
|Jokela High School public high school (Finland)&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|About 12&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheist]], &amp;quot;I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Finland]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Seung-Hui Cho]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Westfield public high school (VA), then Virgina Tech public university&lt;br /&gt;
|32 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|25&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Ismail Ax&amp;quot; suggested [[Muslim]] beliefs, felt &amp;quot;[[Jesus]] was crucifying me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Poem comparing it to environmental harm&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Virginia Tech, ''Transcript of Nikki Giovanni's Convocation address'', Delivered April 17, 2007[http://www.vt.edu/remember/archive/giovanni_transcript.html] ''We are Virginia Tech./We are sad today, and we will be sad for quite a while. We are not moving on, we are embracing our mourning./We are Virginia Tech./We are strong enough to stand tall tearlessly, we are brave enough to bend to cry, and we are sad enough to know that we must laugh again./We are Virginia Tech./We do not understand this tragedy. We know we did nothing to deserve it, but neither does a child in Africa dying of AIDS, neither do the invisible children walking the night away to avoid being captured by the rogue army, neither does the baby elephant watching his community being devastated for ivory, neither does the Mexican child looking for fresh water, neither does the Appalachian infant killed in the middle of the night in his crib in the home his father built with his own hands being run over by a boulder because the land was destabilized. No one deserves a tragedy./We are Virginia Tech./The Hokie Nation embraces our own and reaches out with open heart and hands to those who offer their hearts and minds. We are strong, and brave, and innocent, and unafraid. We are better than we think and not quite what we want to be. We are alive to the imaginations and the possibilities. We will continue to invent the future through our blood and tears and through all our sadness./We are the Hokies./We will prevail./We will prevail./We will prevail./We are Virginia Tech.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://americaabroad.tpmcafe.com/blog/oldengoldendecoy/2007/apr/17/nikki_giovanni_we_are_virginia_tech]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Asa Coon&lt;br /&gt;
|SuccessTech public school Academy (Cleveland)&lt;br /&gt;
|Himself&lt;br /&gt;
|4&lt;br /&gt;
|Said he didn't believe in [[God]] and didn't respect [[God]], killed after classmate disagreed; wore black&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1192092117230670.xml&amp;amp;coll=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized because of his anti-[[God]] statements&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kimveer Gill]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Rosemere High School (Quebec)&lt;br /&gt;
|1 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|20&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;I hate [[God]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;I hate religious zealots&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Canada]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2002&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Steinhäuser&lt;br /&gt;
|Erfurt public school (Germany)&lt;br /&gt;
|16 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|Wore black entirely, literally from head to toe; stopped only when a teacher pulled off his black mask&lt;br /&gt;
|[[German]] [[gun control]] already strict, demands for limitations on computer games&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Columbine public high school]] (CO)&lt;br /&gt;
|13 + themselves&lt;br /&gt;
|23&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheistic]], singled out a girl to kill her for believing in [[God]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Demand [[gun control]], causing [[Al Gore]] to lose [[West Virginia]], [[Tennessee]] and [[Arkansas]] in 2000 presidential election&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1998&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden&lt;br /&gt;
|Westside Middle School&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|10&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson, the older of the two, was obsessed with rap lyrics like &amp;quot;coming to school and killing all the kids.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/06/16/entertainment/main11983.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberals blame the guns rather than the killer's obsession with rap music.  Johnson is released at age 21 but is later arrested for new crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1997&lt;br /&gt;
|Michael Carneal&lt;br /&gt;
|Heath public high school (KY)&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Murdered girls as they prayed in a [[prayer]] group; shooting had tell-tale signs it was incited/trained by video games: Carneal never moved his feet during his shootings, and never fired far to the left or right, but instead fired only once at each target that appeared, just as a player of video games maximizes his game score by shooting only once at each victim, in order to hit as many targets as possible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman and Gloria DeGaetano, Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill 75 (1999).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized due to anti-[[Christian]] nature&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1989&lt;br /&gt;
|Marc Lépine, at the École Polytechnique de Montréal&lt;br /&gt;
||Collège d'enseignement général et professionnel, (''College of General and Vocational Education'')&lt;br /&gt;
|14 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|14&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Montreal Coroners Report of the École Polytechnique de Montréal massacre [http://www.diarmani.com/Montreal_Coroners_Report.pdf]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|His religious views were unpublicized but he was raised in a home with an immigrant Muslim father who was allegedly highly critical of the [[feminist]] view of women's role in society; Marc's mother was an ex-nun; and his sister had allegedly committed suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.volokh.com/posts/1142399687.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Allegedly his suicide note reflected anger towards feminists, See [http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_5897.aspx CityNews Rewind: The Montreal Massacre, December 6, 2006]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Ignore the personal background of the killer and instead use the massacre to push for stricter [[gun control]] and more laws concerning violence against women, and establish in [[Canada]] a National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Young mass murderers</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MattyD: The words &amp;quot;Dynasty Warriors,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;video games&amp;quot; &amp;quot;goth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;mask&amp;quot; DO NOT APPEAR n the given citation.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Recent increases in tragic mass-murders perpetrated by young individuals have prompted questions about their rationale for doing so.  Below is evidence that their motives have been overwhelmingly [[atheism|atheistic]] or [[liberal]], or driven by hatred of [[God]].  Virtually all of these killers are the product of [[public schools]] and most were big [[video game]] players.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
!Education&lt;br /&gt;
!Killed&lt;br /&gt;
!Wounded&lt;br /&gt;
!Beliefs&lt;br /&gt;
![[Liberal]] response&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Adam Lanza&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57559316-504083/connecticut-school-shooting-suspected-shooter-now-idd-as-adam-lanza-older-brother-ryan-questioned-by-cops/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] honors student&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Adam Lanza&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ap-source-suspect-killed-his-mother-at-their-home-before-going-on-school-rampage/2012/12/14/8ee3709e-464f-11e2-8c8f-fbebf7ccab4e_story.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Homeschool]]ed for some time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/nyregion/friends-of-gunmans-mother-his-first-victim-recall-her-as-generous.html?_r=0]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|27, including the murderer and 20 children&lt;br /&gt;
|not yet known&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|not a word by the [[liberal media]] about violent video games, but instead they demand [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Jacob Tyler Roberts is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] and a [[Facebook]] user&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-gunman-wanted-kill-people/story?id=17941415#.UMkG84PHegI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|2, including the murderer&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|played video games (his rampage enacted a scene in ''Grand Theft Auto''); he dressed in black for the murders as other young mass murderers have, and donned a hockey mask perhaps inspired by [[Hollywood]] horror films&lt;br /&gt;
|a day later, authorities and the [[liberal media]] still have disclosed almost nothing about the murderer; instead, [[liberals]] almost immediately demanded more [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|[[James Eagan Holmes‎|James Holmes]] is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|PhD student at [[University of Colorado]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/colorado-shooting-james-holmes_n_1688996.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|12&lt;br /&gt;
|58&lt;br /&gt;
|Like other young mass murderers, dressed in all-black for the killings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was obsessed with playing [[video games]] like &amp;quot;World of Warcraft&amp;quot; (see Breivik below);&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-shooter-guitar-hero-dark-knight/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for the murderous rampage, he dyed his hair bright red presumably to imitate the Joker (Batman's nemesis).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-joker/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/ABC/status/226365875245178880&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[ABC News]] suggests tie to [[Tea Party]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/tea-party-frequent-suspect-for-media/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Liberals call for gun control.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/367020/20120726/james-holmes-court-colorado-shooting-barack-obama.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;T.J. Lane&amp;quot; of the Cleveland area&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57386938/suspect-in-ohio-school-shooting-arrives-at-court/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Posted a chilling rant on [[Facebook]] about two months before his murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|Insists he was a victim of bullying, which several students who knew him denied.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/two-reported-dead-three-injured-in-ohio-school-shooting-20120228&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Anders Behring Breivik&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wect.com/story/15134203/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|public school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;He was 32 years old at the time of the crime.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|68 shot dead at a youth camp of the Norwegian Labor party, another 8 in a bombing of government buildings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2011/07/25/breivik-bought-chemicals-in-poland-security-agency-says/?mod=google_news_blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
|Many continued to be missing after the killing rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|According to the judgement rendered against him, he liked playing violent [[video games]] and saw himself as &amp;quot;ultra-nationalist&amp;quot; who fought against [[Muslim]] immigration and [[Marxist]] subversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://da.scribd.com/doc/103815386/LOVDATA-DOM-toslo-2011-188627-24 Court's judgment in the case against Anders Behring Breivik], Oslo, 24 Aug 2012&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|A typical headline in the [[liberal]] media blames fundamentalist [[Christianity]], while nearly ignoring his hobby of playing violent video games.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Jared Lee Loughner&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Suspected gunman as identified in the media.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public high school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|6&lt;br /&gt;
|at least 17, including a congresswoman&lt;br /&gt;
|a [[nihilist]]; &amp;quot;left wing, quite liberal ... a political radical&amp;quot; and he declared that ''[[The Communist Manifesto]]'', ''[[Animal Farm]]'' and ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' are among his favorite books&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jared-lee-laughners-youtube-site-reveals-clues-about-killer-lists-mein-kampf-and-communist-m&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|It's [[Sarah Palin]]'s fault because nearly one year earlier she had posted targets on 20 congressional districts for Republican wins, and this massacre (by a liberal) occurred in one of those districts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.forbes.com/carolinehoward/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-and-sarah-palins-conscience/ &amp;quot;Gabrielle Giffords' Shooting And Sarah Palin's Conscience.&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Amy Bishop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[professor values|professor]], and daughter of a professor&lt;br /&gt;
|3, + many reporters believe brother in 1986 &lt;br /&gt;
|3, was also a suspect in attempted murder in 1993&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;was a far-left political extremist who was 'obsessed' with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&amp;amp;position=0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|liberals liked her: she &amp;quot;was admired by her peers and loved by her students&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;was a super intelligent person.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100214everybody_described_her_as_gentle/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|Tim Kretschmer&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Germany]] [[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|15 + himself&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Reports were that the police did not mortally wound him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1161139/Are-dead-Police-gun-ex-student-17-targeted-women-German-school-massacre.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|several others&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|Europe calls for more [[gun control]]; [[liberal]] media promotes falsehood: &amp;quot;We'll never know why they kill.&amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/12/greene.shootings/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|Stephen Kazmierczak&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Northern Illinois University]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|16&lt;br /&gt;
|Fan of [[Nietzsche]]'s &amp;quot;The Antichrist,&amp;quot; obsessed with self-injury, was a &amp;quot;cutter&amp;quot; in [[public high school]], wore all black to carry out his massacre, and was still a [[public school]] student at age 27&lt;br /&gt;
|Feigned shock at the fact that the gunman didn't &amp;quot;fit&amp;quot; the typical mold of a killer, when in fact the gunman wore all black and was taught at a [[public school]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Hawkins&lt;br /&gt;
|Papillion-La Vista public high school&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Targeted [[Christmas]] shoppers; wore black; &amp;quot;I can't take this meaningless existence anymore&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.omaha08dec08,0,6053469.story Baltimore Sun]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Told a therapist that &amp;quot;he is not sure if there is a [[God]] or life after death and that when he dies, he'll probably go to hell.&amp;quot; Told social workers he was [[Satan|satanic]] and acknowledged that he often acted before thinking of the consequences. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318506,00.html Mall Gunman Admitted He was Satanic, Attempted Suicide], [[Associated Press]], [[Fox News Channel]], December 27, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Avoided suggesting [[gun control]] lest [[Democrats]] lose [[West Virginia]] and [[Wisconsin]] in [[2008 presidential election]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Pekka-Eric Auvinen&lt;br /&gt;
|Jokela High School public high school (Finland)&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|About 12&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheist]], &amp;quot;I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Finland]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Seung-Hui Cho]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Westfield public high school (VA), then Virgina Tech public university&lt;br /&gt;
|32 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|25&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Ismail Ax&amp;quot; suggested [[Muslim]] beliefs, felt &amp;quot;[[Jesus]] was crucifying me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Poem comparing it to environmental harm&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Virginia Tech, ''Transcript of Nikki Giovanni's Convocation address'', Delivered April 17, 2007[http://www.vt.edu/remember/archive/giovanni_transcript.html] ''We are Virginia Tech./We are sad today, and we will be sad for quite a while. We are not moving on, we are embracing our mourning./We are Virginia Tech./We are strong enough to stand tall tearlessly, we are brave enough to bend to cry, and we are sad enough to know that we must laugh again./We are Virginia Tech./We do not understand this tragedy. We know we did nothing to deserve it, but neither does a child in Africa dying of AIDS, neither do the invisible children walking the night away to avoid being captured by the rogue army, neither does the baby elephant watching his community being devastated for ivory, neither does the Mexican child looking for fresh water, neither does the Appalachian infant killed in the middle of the night in his crib in the home his father built with his own hands being run over by a boulder because the land was destabilized. No one deserves a tragedy./We are Virginia Tech./The Hokie Nation embraces our own and reaches out with open heart and hands to those who offer their hearts and minds. We are strong, and brave, and innocent, and unafraid. We are better than we think and not quite what we want to be. We are alive to the imaginations and the possibilities. We will continue to invent the future through our blood and tears and through all our sadness./We are the Hokies./We will prevail./We will prevail./We will prevail./We are Virginia Tech.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://americaabroad.tpmcafe.com/blog/oldengoldendecoy/2007/apr/17/nikki_giovanni_we_are_virginia_tech]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Asa Coon&lt;br /&gt;
|SuccessTech public school Academy (Cleveland)&lt;br /&gt;
|Himself&lt;br /&gt;
|4&lt;br /&gt;
|Said he didn't believe in [[God]] and didn't respect [[God]], killed after classmate disagreed; wore black&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1192092117230670.xml&amp;amp;coll=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized because of his anti-[[God]] statements&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kimveer Gill]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Rosemere High School (Quebec)&lt;br /&gt;
|1 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|20&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;I hate [[God]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;I hate religious zealots&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Canada]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2002&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Steinhäuser&lt;br /&gt;
|Erfurt public school (Germany)&lt;br /&gt;
|16 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|Wore black entirely, literally from head to toe; stopped only when a teacher pulled off his black mask&lt;br /&gt;
|[[German]] [[gun control]] already strict, demands for limitations on computer games&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Columbine public high school]] (CO)&lt;br /&gt;
|13 + themselves&lt;br /&gt;
|23&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheistic]], singled out a girl to kill her for believing in [[God]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Demand [[gun control]], causing [[Al Gore]] to lose [[West Virginia]], [[Tennessee]] and [[Arkansas]] in 2000 presidential election&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1998&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden&lt;br /&gt;
|Westside Middle School&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|10&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson, the older of the two, was obsessed with rap lyrics like &amp;quot;coming to school and killing all the kids.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/06/16/entertainment/main11983.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberals blame the guns rather than the killer's obsession with rap music.  Johnson is released at age 21 but is later arrested for new crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1997&lt;br /&gt;
|Michael Carneal&lt;br /&gt;
|Heath public high school (KY)&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Murdered girls as they prayed in a [[prayer]] group; shooting had tell-tale signs it was incited/trained by video games: Carneal never moved his feet during his shootings, and never fired far to the left or right, but instead fired only once at each target that appeared, just as a player of video games maximizes his game score by shooting only once at each victim, in order to hit as many targets as possible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman and Gloria DeGaetano, Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill 75 (1999).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized due to anti-[[Christian]] nature&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|1989&lt;br /&gt;
|Marc Lépine, at the École Polytechnique de Montréal&lt;br /&gt;
||Collège d'enseignement général et professionnel, (''College of General and Vocational Education'')&lt;br /&gt;
|14 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|14&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Montreal Coroners Report of the École Polytechnique de Montréal massacre [http://www.diarmani.com/Montreal_Coroners_Report.pdf]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|His religious views were unpublicized but he was raised in a home with an immigrant Muslim father who was allegedly highly critical of the [[feminist]] view of women's role in society; Marc's mother was an ex-nun; and his sister had allegedly committed suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.volokh.com/posts/1142399687.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Allegedly his suicide note reflected anger towards feminists, See [http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_5897.aspx CityNews Rewind: The Montreal Massacre, December 6, 2006]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Ignore the personal background of the killer and instead use the massacre to push for stricter [[gun control]] and more laws concerning violence against women, and establish in [[Canada]] a National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Young mass murderers</title>
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&lt;div&gt;Recent increases in tragic mass-murders perpetrated by young individuals have prompted questions about their rationale for doing so.  Below is evidence that their motives have been overwhelmingly [[atheism|atheistic]] or [[liberal]], or driven by hatred of [[God]].  Virtually all of these killers are the product of [[public schools]] and most were big [[video game]] players.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Year&lt;br /&gt;
!Name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
!Education&lt;br /&gt;
!Killed&lt;br /&gt;
!Wounded&lt;br /&gt;
!Beliefs&lt;br /&gt;
![[Liberal]] response&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Adam Lanza&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57559316-504083/connecticut-school-shooting-suspected-shooter-now-idd-as-adam-lanza-older-brother-ryan-questioned-by-cops/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] honors student&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Adam Lanza&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/ap-source-suspect-killed-his-mother-at-their-home-before-going-on-school-rampage/2012/12/14/8ee3709e-464f-11e2-8c8f-fbebf7ccab4e_story.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Homeschool]]ed for some time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/16/nyregion/friends-of-gunmans-mother-his-first-victim-recall-her-as-generous.html?_r=0]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|27, including the murderer and 20 children&lt;br /&gt;
|not yet known&lt;br /&gt;
|a video game player who particularly liked the violent &amp;quot;Dynasty Warriors,&amp;quot; he was &amp;quot;goth&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Adam Lanza&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; and wore a mask&lt;br /&gt;
|not a word by the [[liberal media]] about violent video games, but instead they demand [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|Jacob Tyler Roberts is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]] and a [[Facebook]] user&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/oregon-mall-gunman-wanted-kill-people/story?id=17941415#.UMkG84PHegI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|2, including the murderer&lt;br /&gt;
|1&lt;br /&gt;
|played video games (his rampage enacted a scene in ''Grand Theft Auto''); he dressed in black for the murders as other young mass murderers have, and donned a hockey mask perhaps inspired by [[Hollywood]] horror films&lt;br /&gt;
|a day later, authorities and the [[liberal media]] still have disclosed almost nothing about the murderer; instead, [[liberals]] almost immediately demanded more [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|[[James Eagan Holmes‎|James Holmes]] is the suspect&lt;br /&gt;
|PhD student at [[University of Colorado]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/colorado-shooting-james-holmes_n_1688996.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|12&lt;br /&gt;
|58&lt;br /&gt;
|Like other young mass murderers, dressed in all-black for the killings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-suspect-profile/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was obsessed with playing [[video games]] like &amp;quot;World of Warcraft&amp;quot; (see Breivik below);&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-shooter-guitar-hero-dark-knight/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for the murderous rampage, he dyed his hair bright red presumably to imitate the Joker (Batman's nemesis).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/20/james-holmes-colorado-shooting-joker/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/ABC/status/226365875245178880&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[ABC News]] suggests tie to [[Tea Party]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/27/tea-party-frequent-suspect-for-media/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Liberals call for gun control.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/367020/20120726/james-holmes-court-colorado-shooting-barack-obama.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2012&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;T.J. Lane&amp;quot; of the Cleveland area&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57386938/suspect-in-ohio-school-shooting-arrives-at-court/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|2&lt;br /&gt;
|Posted a chilling rant on [[Facebook]] about two months before his murderous rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|Insists he was a victim of bullying, which several students who knew him denied.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.myfoxboston.com/dpp/news/national/two-reported-dead-three-injured-in-ohio-school-shooting-20120228&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Anders Behring Breivik&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wect.com/story/15134203/gunmans-background-puzzles-police-in-norway&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|public school&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;He was 32 years old at the time of the crime.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|68 shot dead at a youth camp of the Norwegian Labor party, another 8 in a bombing of government buildings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blogs.wsj.com/emergingeurope/2011/07/25/breivik-bought-chemicals-in-poland-security-agency-says/?mod=google_news_blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
|Many continued to be missing after the killing rampage.&lt;br /&gt;
|According to the judgement rendered against him, he liked playing violent [[video games]] and saw himself as &amp;quot;ultra-nationalist&amp;quot; who fought against [[Muslim]] immigration and [[Marxist]] subversion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://da.scribd.com/doc/103815386/LOVDATA-DOM-toslo-2011-188627-24 Court's judgment in the case against Anders Behring Breivik], Oslo, 24 Aug 2012&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|A typical headline in the [[liberal]] media blames fundamentalist [[Christianity]], while nearly ignoring his hobby of playing violent video games.&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2011&lt;br /&gt;
|Jared Lee Loughner&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Suspected gunman as identified in the media.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[public high school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|6&lt;br /&gt;
|at least 17, including a congresswoman&lt;br /&gt;
|a [[nihilist]]; &amp;quot;left wing, quite liberal ... a political radical&amp;quot; and he declared that ''[[The Communist Manifesto]]'', ''[[Animal Farm]]'' and ''[[Mein Kampf]]'' are among his favorite books&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40980334/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zerohedge.com/article/jared-lee-laughners-youtube-site-reveals-clues-about-killer-lists-mein-kampf-and-communist-m&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|It's [[Sarah Palin]]'s fault because nearly one year earlier she had posted targets on 20 congressional districts for Republican wins, and this massacre (by a liberal) occurred in one of those districts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.forbes.com/carolinehoward/2011/01/08/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-and-sarah-palins-conscience/ &amp;quot;Gabrielle Giffords' Shooting And Sarah Palin's Conscience.&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2010&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Amy Bishop]]&lt;br /&gt;
|[[professor values|professor]], and daughter of a professor&lt;br /&gt;
|3, + many reporters believe brother in 1986 &lt;br /&gt;
|3, was also a suspect in attempted murder in 1993&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;was a far-left political extremist who was 'obsessed' with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&amp;amp;position=0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|liberals liked her: she &amp;quot;was admired by her peers and loved by her students&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;was a super intelligent person.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100214everybody_described_her_as_gentle/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2009&lt;br /&gt;
|Tim Kretschmer&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Germany]] [[public school]]&lt;br /&gt;
|15 + himself&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Reports were that the police did not mortally wound him. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1161139/Are-dead-Police-gun-ex-student-17-targeted-women-German-school-massacre.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|several others&lt;br /&gt;
|&lt;br /&gt;
|Europe calls for more [[gun control]]; [[liberal]] media promotes falsehood: &amp;quot;We'll never know why they kill.&amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/03/12/greene.shootings/]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2008&lt;br /&gt;
|Stephen Kazmierczak&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Northern Illinois University]]&lt;br /&gt;
|5 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|16&lt;br /&gt;
|Fan of [[Nietzsche]]'s &amp;quot;The Antichrist,&amp;quot; obsessed with self-injury, was a &amp;quot;cutter&amp;quot; in [[public high school]], wore all black to carry out his massacre, and was still a [[public school]] student at age 27&lt;br /&gt;
|Feigned shock at the fact that the gunman didn't &amp;quot;fit&amp;quot; the typical mold of a killer, when in fact the gunman wore all black and was taught at a [[public school]].&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Hawkins&lt;br /&gt;
|Papillion-La Vista public high school&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Targeted [[Christmas]] shoppers; wore black; &amp;quot;I can't take this meaningless existence anymore&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.omaha08dec08,0,6053469.story Baltimore Sun]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Told a therapist that &amp;quot;he is not sure if there is a [[God]] or life after death and that when he dies, he'll probably go to hell.&amp;quot; Told social workers he was [[Satan|satanic]] and acknowledged that he often acted before thinking of the consequences. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318506,00.html Mall Gunman Admitted He was Satanic, Attempted Suicide], [[Associated Press]], [[Fox News Channel]], December 27, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Avoided suggesting [[gun control]] lest [[Democrats]] lose [[West Virginia]] and [[Wisconsin]] in [[2008 presidential election]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Pekka-Eric Auvinen&lt;br /&gt;
|Jokela High School public high school (Finland)&lt;br /&gt;
|8 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|About 12&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheist]], &amp;quot;I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Finland]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Seung-Hui Cho]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Westfield public high school (VA), then Virgina Tech public university&lt;br /&gt;
|32 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|25&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;Ismail Ax&amp;quot; suggested [[Muslim]] beliefs, felt &amp;quot;[[Jesus]] was crucifying me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|Poem comparing it to environmental harm&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Virginia Tech, ''Transcript of Nikki Giovanni's Convocation address'', Delivered April 17, 2007[http://www.vt.edu/remember/archive/giovanni_transcript.html] ''We are Virginia Tech./We are sad today, and we will be sad for quite a while. We are not moving on, we are embracing our mourning./We are Virginia Tech./We are strong enough to stand tall tearlessly, we are brave enough to bend to cry, and we are sad enough to know that we must laugh again./We are Virginia Tech./We do not understand this tragedy. We know we did nothing to deserve it, but neither does a child in Africa dying of AIDS, neither do the invisible children walking the night away to avoid being captured by the rogue army, neither does the baby elephant watching his community being devastated for ivory, neither does the Mexican child looking for fresh water, neither does the Appalachian infant killed in the middle of the night in his crib in the home his father built with his own hands being run over by a boulder because the land was destabilized. No one deserves a tragedy./We are Virginia Tech./The Hokie Nation embraces our own and reaches out with open heart and hands to those who offer their hearts and minds. We are strong, and brave, and innocent, and unafraid. We are better than we think and not quite what we want to be. We are alive to the imaginations and the possibilities. We will continue to invent the future through our blood and tears and through all our sadness./We are the Hokies./We will prevail./We will prevail./We will prevail./We are Virginia Tech.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://americaabroad.tpmcafe.com/blog/oldengoldendecoy/2007/apr/17/nikki_giovanni_we_are_virginia_tech]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2007&lt;br /&gt;
|Asa Coon&lt;br /&gt;
|SuccessTech public school Academy (Cleveland)&lt;br /&gt;
|Himself&lt;br /&gt;
|4&lt;br /&gt;
|Said he didn't believe in [[God]] and didn't respect [[God]], killed after classmate disagreed; wore black&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/cuyahoga/1192092117230670.xml&amp;amp;coll=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized because of his anti-[[God]] statements&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2006&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Kimveer Gill]]&lt;br /&gt;
|Rosemere High School (Quebec)&lt;br /&gt;
|1 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|20&lt;br /&gt;
|&amp;quot;I hate [[God]]&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;I hate religious zealots&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Canada]] already had [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
|2002&lt;br /&gt;
|Robert Steinhäuser&lt;br /&gt;
|Erfurt public school (Germany)&lt;br /&gt;
|16 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
| &lt;br /&gt;
|Wore black entirely, literally from head to toe; stopped only when a teacher pulled off his black mask&lt;br /&gt;
|[[German]] [[gun control]] already strict, demands for limitations on computer games&lt;br /&gt;
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|1999&lt;br /&gt;
|Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Columbine public high school]] (CO)&lt;br /&gt;
|13 + themselves&lt;br /&gt;
|23&lt;br /&gt;
|[[Atheistic]], singled out a girl to kill her for believing in [[God]].&lt;br /&gt;
|Demand [[gun control]], causing [[Al Gore]] to lose [[West Virginia]], [[Tennessee]] and [[Arkansas]] in 2000 presidential election&lt;br /&gt;
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|1998&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson and Andrew Golden&lt;br /&gt;
|Westside Middle School&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|10&lt;br /&gt;
|Mitchell Johnson, the older of the two, was obsessed with rap lyrics like &amp;quot;coming to school and killing all the kids.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1998/06/16/entertainment/main11983.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Liberals blame the guns rather than the killer's obsession with rap music.  Johnson is released at age 21 but is later arrested for new crimes.&lt;br /&gt;
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|1997&lt;br /&gt;
|Michael Carneal&lt;br /&gt;
|Heath public high school (KY)&lt;br /&gt;
|3&lt;br /&gt;
|5&lt;br /&gt;
|Murdered girls as they prayed in a [[prayer]] group; shooting had tell-tale signs it was incited/trained by video games: Carneal never moved his feet during his shootings, and never fired far to the left or right, but instead fired only once at each target that appeared, just as a player of video games maximizes his game score by shooting only once at each victim, in order to hit as many targets as possible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lt. Col. Dave Grossman and Gloria DeGaetano, Stop Teaching Our Kids To Kill 75 (1999).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Under-publicized due to anti-[[Christian]] nature&lt;br /&gt;
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|1989&lt;br /&gt;
|Marc Lépine, at the École Polytechnique de Montréal&lt;br /&gt;
||Collège d'enseignement général et professionnel, (''College of General and Vocational Education'')&lt;br /&gt;
|14 + himself&lt;br /&gt;
|14&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Montreal Coroners Report of the École Polytechnique de Montréal massacre [http://www.diarmani.com/Montreal_Coroners_Report.pdf]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|His religious views were unpublicized but he was raised in a home with an immigrant Muslim father who was allegedly highly critical of the [[feminist]] view of women's role in society; Marc's mother was an ex-nun; and his sister had allegedly committed suicide&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.volokh.com/posts/1142399687.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Allegedly his suicide note reflected anger towards feminists, See [http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_5897.aspx CityNews Rewind: The Montreal Massacre, December 6, 2006]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Ignore the personal background of the killer and instead use the massacre to push for stricter [[gun control]] and more laws concerning violence against women, and establish in [[Canada]] a National Day of Remembrance and Action on Violence Against Women.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:President Barack Obama.jpg|thumbnail|right|180px|President [[Barack Obama]] advocates the use of [[Keynesian economics|Keynesian economic concepts]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A '''liberal''' is someone who favors [[censorship]] of [[Christianity]] plus increased government spending and power, as in [[ObamaCare]].  Increasingly, liberals side with the [[homosexual agenda]], including supporting [[same-sex marriage|homosexual &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot;]].  Many liberals favor a [[welfare state]] where people receive endless entitlements without working.  Liberals are often anti-[[Christian]], or otherwise disagree with moral or social principles held by many American Christians. The liberal ideology has worsened over the years and degenerated into economically delusional views and intolerant ideology.  Some liberals simply support, in knee-jerk fashion, the opposite of [[conservative]] principles without having any meaningful values of their own.&lt;br /&gt;
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Polling data has consistently shown that a decreasingly large percentage of Americans identify as conservative, rather than as liberal, currently by 38% to 21%. Younger people and those with higher levels of education are more likely to identify as liberal.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1042/winds-of-political-change-havent--shifted-publics-ideology-balance&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The decline in liberal principles can be illustrated by how [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]] opposed and condemned public sector unions, stating that the idea of collective bargaining can't be transferred from the private to the public sector, as that would result in the government being unable to carry out its duties.  Yet today, decades later, [[Democrats]] and liberals are in lock-step with public sector unions, as they &amp;quot;donate&amp;quot; money to the reelection campaign in exchange for more taxpayer money in their wallets and fluffed up pensions.  &lt;br /&gt;
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A liberal generally supports many of the following political positions and practices:&lt;br /&gt;
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* Spending money on government programs (the significant economic problems in the [[Eurozone]] due to government debt will no doubt increasingly discredit this aspect of liberal ideology and make things more difficult for advocates of liberal economic ideologies)&lt;br /&gt;
* Government's ability to solve economic problems&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* The belief that terrorism is not a huge threat, and that the main reason for Muslim extremists' hostility towards America is because of bad foreign policy &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Taxpayer-funded and/or legalized [[abortion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Censorship of teacher-led [[prayer]] in classrooms and school/state-sponsored religious events&lt;br /&gt;
* Support for [[gun control]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Affirmative action&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Opposition to government regulation or restriction of obscenity, pornography and violence in video games as a [[First Amendment]] right&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The [[Warren Court]], led by [[liberal]] Justices [[William O. Douglas]], [[Hugo Black]], [[Abe Fortas]], [[William Brennan]] and Chief Justice [[Earl Warren]] issued 36 decisions granting [[First Amendment]] rights to obscenity and pornography.  These decisions remain fully supported by liberals today.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Government-funded medical care, such as [[Obamacare]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Taxpayer-funded and government-controlled [[public education]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Insisting that men and women be placed in the same jobs in the [[military]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Legalized [[same-sex marriage]] and homosexual adoption&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Tax and spend]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Support for economic sector regulations&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Support and spreading of [[political correctness]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Support of non-syndicalist [[labor union|labor unions]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Encouraging promiscuity through sexual education (the teaching of safe sex) rather than teaching [[abstinence]] from premarital sex&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286671,00.html Democrats Aim To Kill Abstinence-Only Program Funding], [[Fox News]], Monday, June 25, 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* A &amp;quot;[[living Constitution]]&amp;quot; that is reinterpreted as liberals prefer, rather than how it is thought to have been intended.&lt;br /&gt;
* Government programs to [[rehabilitate criminals]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Abolition of the death penalty&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Environmentalism]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; and environmental organizations, for example [[Greenpeace]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Globalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Support for the constitutionally mandated separation of church and state.&lt;br /&gt;
* Opposition to full private property rights.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;  For example, the liberal wing of the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] issued the 5-4 [[Kelo v. City of New London]] decision authorizing the taking of private property by government in order to give the property to another private entity rather than convert it to a public use.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Reinstating the [[Fairness Doctrine]]&lt;br /&gt;
* In 2005, it was reported by CBS News that [[Theory of evolution and liberalism|liberals were the most likely supporters of the theory of evolution]]. &lt;br /&gt;
* Opposition to domestic wire-tapping as authorized in the [[Patriot Act]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Opposition of [[Operation Iraqi Freedom]], a major part of the [[War on Terrorism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Withholds support to the [[War on Terrorism]] and the [[War in Iraq]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tolerance of different ideas and lifestyles&lt;br /&gt;
* Do not support a laissez-faire capitalist economy and support regulation of business&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberals currently use two clauses to try and expand their power: the Commerce Clause and the General Welfare Clause. The general welfare clause mentions &amp;quot;promoting the general welfare&amp;quot;. This to a liberal means taxing the rich at increased rates and redistributing that money.  The commerce clause, on the other hand, says that Congress has the power to regulate trade with foreign nations, between the states and with the indian tribes. Since the days of FDR this clause has been interpreted very loosely and has resulted in the federal government expanding its power. The latest example is The Affordable Care Act(ACA), better know as [[Obamacare]]. In the ACA, the liberals justify the individual mandate by saying it regulates commerce between the states. &lt;br /&gt;
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Current dictionaries describe the liberal ideology by pretending that a liberal is &amp;quot;a person who favors a political philosophy of progress and reform and the protection of civil liberties&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;a person who favors an economic theory of laissez-faire and self-regulating markets,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=liberal&amp;amp;sub=Search+WordNet&amp;amp;o2=&amp;amp;o0=1&amp;amp;o7=&amp;amp;o5=&amp;amp;o1=1&amp;amp;o6=&amp;amp;o4=&amp;amp;o3=&amp;amp;h=00&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; or &amp;quot;open-minded or tolerant, especially free of or not bound by traditional or conventional ideas, values, etc.&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==Liberals and Uncharitableness==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:228130875 35181424e3.jpg|thumb|right|175px|[[United States|American]] Liberals have been observed to give less to charity than American conservatives.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, [[per capita]] [[atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] in the United States [[Atheism and charity|give significantly less to charity than theists even when church giving is not counted for theists]].[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians][http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3647/is_200310/ai_n9340592/][http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&amp;amp;page=2] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
''For more information please see'': [[Liberals and uncharitableness]] and [[Atheism and charity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In March of 2008, [[George Will]] wrote at [[RealClearPolitics]] concerning the [[United States]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Sixteen months ago, [[Arthur C. Brooks]], a professor at [[Syracuse University]], published &amp;quot;Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism.&amp;quot; The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than [[conservative]]s....&lt;br /&gt;
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If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:&lt;br /&gt;
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-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).&lt;br /&gt;
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-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/03/conservatives_more_liberal_giv.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Atheism|Atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] often reject [[Bible|Biblical]] [[morality]] (and therefore [[conservative Christianity]] ) and hold to [[moral relativism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdate&amp;amp;BarnaUpdateID=152&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Therefore, it is not surprising that [[per capita]] atheists and agnostics in [[United States|America]] [[Atheism and charity|give significantly less to charity than theists even when church giving is not counted for theists]].[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians][http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3647/is_200310/ai_n9340592/][http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&amp;amp;page=2]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Liberal politicians and uncharitableness ===&lt;br /&gt;
The political magazine the [[American Spectator]] featured an article which focused on [[liberal politicians and uncharitableness]] exposing the hypocrisy of the liberal politicians it featured.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1c5_1238044128&amp;amp;c=1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, [[Barack Obama]] has been criticized concerning [[Barack Obama and uncharitableness|his lack of charitable giving]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberalism and bestiality ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Liberalism and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Peter-Singer.jpg|right|thumbnail|260px|The [[atheist]] philosopher [[Peter Singer]] defends the practice of [[bestiality]] (as well as [[abortion]], infanticide and [[euthanasia]]).  Despite holding these immoral views the liberal and pro-[[evolution]] academic establishment rewarded his views with a bioethics chair at [[Princeton University]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/the-basis-of-a-christian-worldview The Basis of a Christian Worldview - Creation Ministries International]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/answer-to-philosophy-religion-professor-on-biblical-exegesis-and-the-problem-of-evil CMI answers philosophy/religion professor on biblical exegesis and the problem of evil]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/06/the-dangerous-mind-of-peter-singer ''The Dangerous Mind''] by Joe Carter, ''[[First Things]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and bestiality]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bestiality]] is the act of engaging in sexual relations with an animal. The [[atheist]] philosopher [[Peter Singer]] defends the practice of bestiality (as well as [[abortion]], infanticide and [[euthanasia]])&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/the-basis-of-a-christian-worldview The Basis of a Christian Worldview - Creation Ministries International]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/answer-to-philosophy-religion-professor-on-biblical-exegesis-and-the-problem-of-evil CMI answers philosophy/religion professor on biblical exegesis and the problem of evil]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/06/the-dangerous-mind-of-peter-singer ''The Dangerous Mind''] by Joe Carter, ''[[First Things]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Despite holding these immoral views the liberal and pro-[[evolution]] academic establishment rewarded his views with a bioethics chair at [[Princeton University]] (Princeton University is a very liberal school - see: [[Liberalism and bestiality]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/the-basis-of-a-christian-worldview The Basis of a Christian Worldview - Creation Ministries International]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/answer-to-philosophy-religion-professor-on-biblical-exegesis-and-the-problem-of-evil CMI answers philosophy/religion professor on biblical exegesis and the problem of evil]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/06/the-dangerous-mind-of-peter-singer ''The Dangerous Mind''] by Joe Carter, ''[[First Things]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Peter Singer was installed as the Ira W. DeCamp Professor of Bioethics at the University Center for Human Values at Princeton University in 1999 and in 2006 it was reported that he still worked part-time in that capacity. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-basis-of-a-christian-worldview The Basis of a Christian Worldview]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2006, it was also reported that Singer worked part-time as Laureate Professor at the University of Melbourne in the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics since 2005.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-basis-of-a-christian-worldview The Basis of a Christian Worldview]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Joe Carter's ''[[First Things]]'' article entitled ''The Dangerous Mind'' declares concerning Peter  Singer declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Singer has spent a lifetime justifying the unjustifiable. He is the founding father of the [[Animal rights|animal liberation movement]] and advocates ending “the present speciesist bias against taking seriously the interests of nonhuman animals.” He is also a defender of killing the aged (if they have dementia), newborns (for almost any reason until they are two years old), necrophilia (assuming it’s consensual), and bestiality (also assuming it’s consensual).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2011/06/the-dangerous-mind-of-peter-singer ''The Dangerous Mind''] by Joe Carter, ''[[First Things]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 5, 2011, the British newspaper The Telegraph wrote an article which discussed how homosexuality &amp;quot;rights&amp;quot; have emboldened individuals to ask for so called bestiality &amp;quot;rights&amp;quot; (see: [[Homosexuality and bestiality]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timstanley/100108943/the-gay-rights-movement-has-emboldened-americas-bestiality-advocates/ The dark side of sexual freedom: American 'zoophiles' take on the language of equality - October 5, 2011 - The Telegraph]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, the liberal state of [[Washington]] has the highest number of reported cases of bestiality in the United States even though it was merely the 13th most populous state according to the 2010 United States census. (for more information please see: [[Washington state and bestiality]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pet-abuse.com/pages/cruelty_database/statistics/state_ranking.php?year=2010&amp;amp;search=go Pet Abuse -2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://2010.census.gov/2010census/data/apportionment-pop-text.php 2010 United States Census data]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/25/new-poll-identifies-most-liberal-and-conservative-states/ 2011 Political map - CNN]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2005, four legislators in the liberal state of [[Massachusetts]] tried to soften it bestiality laws.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[Massachusetts bill to repeal fornication, adultery, and blasphemy, and to soften bestiality laws]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:NBC Tower.jpg|thumbnail|200px|[[LifeSiteNews]] reported:&amp;quot;In 46 hours of programming, [[NBC]] contained only one reference to marital sex, but 11 references to non-marital sex and one reference to [[adultery]] were made. References to incest, pedophilia, partner swapping, prostitution, threesomes, transsexuals/transvestites, [[bestiality]], and necrophilia combined outnumbered references to sex in marriage on NBC by a ratio of 27 to 1.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2008/aug/08080602 Study Finds TV Treats Marital Sex as Burdensome, Adultery as Positive]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Liberalism and bestiality]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible says that bestiality is a perversion and, under the [[Old Testament]] [[Pentateuch|Jewish Law]], punishable by death (Exodus 22:19, Leviticus 18:23, Leviticus 20:15 and Deuteronomy 27:21). The atheistic worldview does not lend itself to the establishment of morality within society and individuals (see: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheism and deception]]).  The atheistic worldview does not lend itself to the establishment of morality within society and individuals (see: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheism and deception]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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A study found that &amp;quot;Psychiatric patients were found to have a statistically significant higher prevalence rate (55%) of bestiality than the control groups (10% and 15% respectively).&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1778686 A prevalence study of bestiality (zoophilia) in psychiatric in-patients, medical in-patients, and psychiatric staff - Int J Psychosom. 1991;38(1-4):45-7.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The atheist population [[Atheism and suicide|has a higher suicide rate]] and [[Atheism and marriageability|lower marriage rates]] than the general population (see: [[Atheism and suicide]] and [[Atheism and marriageability]] and [[Atheism and health]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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For more information please see:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Evolutionary belief and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Liberalism and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Homosexuality and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Liberal American entertainment industry and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Wikipedia on bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Bestiality and Sweden|Liberal Sweden and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Bestiality and Britain|Godless Britain and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Denmark, Sweden, evolutionary belief and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Netherlands and bestiality|The liberal Netherlands and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Skeptic Skatje Myers' comments on bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Joseph Stalin's ape-men experiments]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Occupy Wall Street and bestiality chant ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Occupy Wall Street and bestiality chant]] &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Bestiality]] is the act of engaging in sexual relations with an animal.  A crowd at Occupy Wall Street was led to repeat various chants which included a chant involving bestiality and the incident was videotaped.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/the-10-greatest-moments-from-the-occupy-wall-street-protests-so-far/ The 10 Greatest Moments From The Occupy Wall Street Protests So Far]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Below is an excerpt of the chant:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Everything seems to be possible. [Crowd Parrot Chant] You can travel to the moon.  [CPC] You can become immortal [CPC] by biogenetics.  You can have sex with animals, or whatever. [CPC].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://rightwingnews.com/john-hawkins/the-10-greatest-moments-from-the-occupy-wall-street-protests-so-far/ The 10 Greatest Moments From The Occupy Wall Street Protests So Far]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Liberals and Superstition==&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Wall Street Journal]] reported: &amp;quot;A comprehensive new study released by Baylor University, shows that [[Conservative Christianity|traditional Christian religion]] greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of [[astrology]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, in September of 2008, the [[Wall Street Journal]] reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The reality is that the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] campaign, by discouraging [[religion]], won't create a new group of intelligent, skeptical, enlightened beings. Far from it: It might actually encourage new levels of mass superstition. And that's not a conclusion to take on faith &amp;amp;mdash; it's what the empirical data tell us.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What Americans Really Believe,&amp;quot; a comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows that [[Conservative Christianity|traditional Christian religion]] greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of [[astrology]]. It also shows that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in pseudoscience than evangelical Christians....&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a new finding. In his 1983 book &amp;quot;The Whys of a Philosophical Scrivener,&amp;quot; skeptic and science writer Martin Gardner cited the decline of traditional religious belief among the better educated as one of the causes for an increase in [[pseudoscience]], cults and superstition. He referenced a 1980 study published in the magazine Skeptical Inquirer that showed irreligious college students to be by far the most likely to embrace paranormal beliefs, while born-again Christian college students were the least likely.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Liberalism in the United States Today ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Democrats]] and most media outlets in the [[U.S.]] are blatantly liberal.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp|title=Media Bias basics|publisher=Media Research Center}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Liberalism in North America today practices three primary tactics to attack the Republican Party, and sometimes to attack American values in general. These three liberal tactics can be pronounced using the following [[acronym]]: SIN. Liberals (1) '''s'''hift the subject, they (2) '''i'''gnore the facts, and they (3) '''n'''ame call.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Scott Baker. [http://www.theblaze.com/stories/did-herman-cain-give-the-dont-miss-speech-at-cpac/ Did Herman Cain Give the ‘Don’t Miss’ Speech at CPAC?], ''[[The Blaze]], February 12, 2011.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[YouTube]]. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N3-j3HM7-A&amp;amp; Herman Cain: &amp;quot;Stupid People Are Ruining America&amp;quot;], February 11, 2011.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Liberals typically support a &amp;quot;mixed&amp;quot; economy, a policy similar to that of [[fascism]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://fora.tv/2008/01/30/Liberal_Traits_of_Fascism|title=Video discussion about how modern liberalism is actually fascist by author Jonah Goldberg.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Liberals claimed a monopoly on [[compassion]], [[decency]], and [[social justice]] (as defined by themselves), posing as the sole defenders of [[civic virtue]] against a horde of backwoodsmen, racists, and religious fanatics. [http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/the_disgrace_of_liberalism.html]&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|There's another goal, from my point of view, which is to try to lay the groundwork for a radical political force which would conceive of itself as distinctly to the left of moderate, reformist American liberals. And that has two aspects. One is to try to change that liberalism, to transform it by analysis, critique, and activism; the second is to build a radical movement which would be an autonomous force in its own right, which would be distinct from the traditional American liberal consensus. This radical part of the program involves not simply supporting the liberal students against conservative students and conservative professors, but trying to act on them, to push them to the left. It also involves trying to find and support, even trying to help create, networks of radical students in law school and of radical professors around the country — students and teachers who see themselves as wanting to go a lot further than most people want to go. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?ei=UTF-8&amp;amp;p=liberal+teachers&amp;amp;fr=yfp-t-501&amp;amp;fp_ip=MX&amp;amp;u=duncankennedy.net/documents/Liberal%2520Values%2520in%2520Legal%2520Education.pdf&amp;amp;w=liberal+liberals+teachers+teacher&amp;amp;d=BNZFhPReRjC1&amp;amp;icp=1&amp;amp;.intl=us Liberal Values in Legal Education] Duncan Kennedy (professor at Harvard Law School)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal Rankings of Congress Members===&lt;br /&gt;
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The National Journal compiles the votes of each congress member each year and uses the information to create rankings&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/index.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of how liberal each member of the United States [[Congress]] is. In addition to showing the voting records of each member and given an overall all ranking of liberalness, the National Journal also ranks congress members by liberalness in the areas of social, economic, and foreign policy.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== American liberalism, demographics and expected tipping point in the decline of American liberalism ===&lt;br /&gt;
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See also:'' [[American atheism]] and [[Decline of atheism]] and [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to the explosive growth of [[global Christianity]] in traditional cultures and their influence on Western [[Christianity]] and the higher birth rate of [[Conservative Christianity|conservative Christians]] and religious conservatives, social conservatism is expected to rise.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Birkbeck College, University of London professor Eric Kaufman wrote in his 2010 book ''Shall the Righteous Inherit the Earth?'' concerning America:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|High evangelical fertility rates more than compensated for losses to liberal Protestant sects during the twentieth century. In recent decades, white secularism has surged, but Latino and Asian religious immigration has taken up the slack, keeping secularism at bay. Across denominations, the fertility advantage of religious fundamentalists of all colours is significant and growing. After 2020, their demographic weight will to tip the balance in the [[Culture War|culture wars]] towards the conservative side, ramping up pressure on hot-button issues such as abortion. By the end of the century, three quarters of America may be pro-life. Their activism will leap over the borders of the 'Redeemer Nation' to evangelize the world. Already, the rise of the World Congress of Families has launched a global religious right, its arms stretching across the bloody lines of the War on Terror to embrace the entire Abrahamic family.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-are-years-2012-and-2020-key-years.html Why are 2012 and 2020 key years for Christian creationists and pro-lifers?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Liberalism in Europe today==&lt;br /&gt;
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In Europe, on the other hand, parties that call themselves ''liberal'' are moderate in outlook, ranging from centre-left to centre-right, promote typically economic and business freedom. The Alliance of Liberals and Democrats for Europe&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.alde.eu&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a party of the European Parliament that represents most ''liberal'' parties from European countries. Similar policies are promoted by many ''liberal'' parties throughout the world,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.liberal-international.org/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; such as the Liberal Party of Australia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.liberal.org.au/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Trade unions and socialist parties often criticize politicians for promoting lower taxes on business, or more flexible hiring and firing laws, by calling them &amp;quot;liberals&amp;quot; or [[neoliberal|neoliberals]]. Thus, just as in the US, &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; may occasionally be used as a term of abuse. But when someone is called &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; in Europe, it has an entirely different meaning than in the US. In fact, the US meaning of liberal is more similar to the politics of European [[socialist]] or [[social democracy|social democratic]] parties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pes.org]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Historical Liberalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
In history, the word &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; has meant different things at different times, and was associated with individual liberty in prior centuries. In the postwar period, liberals supported government intervention in the economy and welfare state policies, as well as peaceful coexistence with the communist block, which are not liberal policies in the sense of classical liberalism. After the end of the cold war, with the demise of socialism and communism, many liberals embraced some ideas from economic neo-liberalism, and coined it the &amp;quot;Third Way&amp;quot;. In the area of national security and foreign policy liberals in the [[U.S.]] failed to define a consistent stance, even after the events of 9/11 and the beginning of the war in Iraq.  Liberals generally support affirmative action, gay marriage, and abortion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Political liberals tend, for whatever reason, to be ardent supporters of both gay rights and pro-choice programs.&amp;quot; Greenberg and Bailey [http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/Bailey/Greenberg-Bailey/Homosexual%20Eugenics.pdf]  &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Original meaning: Classical Liberalism==&lt;br /&gt;
Liberalism is a political philosophy with freedom as its core value. The term was originally applied to supporters of individual liberties and equal rights, but, in America, the term has come to represent a movement of social change that often conflicts with [[conservative]] values such as moral values and traditions derived from Northern European Protestantism.&lt;br /&gt;
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See [[Classical Liberal|Classical Liberalism]]. Compare [[Libertarianism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Infamous liberals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Infamous liberals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Margaret Sanger]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[John Wayne Gacy]] - In an interview where he denied killing any of his victims, [[serial killer]] John Wayne Gacy said he was [[bisexuality|bisexual]] and &amp;quot;very liberal&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://s151.photobucket.com/albums/s151/candypop_02/Serial%20Killers/John%20Wayne%20Gacy/?action=view&amp;amp;current=SERIAL_KILLER_John_Wayne_Gacy_In-1.mp4&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Gacy was also a [[Democratic Party]] activist who had his picture taken with [[Rosalynn Carter]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.digitaljournal.com/image/45527&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Liberal Organizations == &lt;br /&gt;
*[[AARP|AARP - American Association of Retired People]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[ACLU|ACLU - American Civil Liberties Union]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[ACORN|ACORN - Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[AFL-CIO|AFL-CIO - American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Amnesty International|AI - Amnesty International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[A.N.S.W.E.R.|ANSWER - Act Now to Stop War and End Racism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[CAIR|CAIR - Council on American-Islamic Relations]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Committees of Correspondence for Democracy and Socialism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Democratic National Committee]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Greenpeace]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[MoveOn.org]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[NARAL|NARAL - National Abortion and Reproductive Rights Action League]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[NAACP|NAACP - National Association for the Advancement of Colored People]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[National Committee for an Effective Congress]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[National Education Association]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[National Organization of Women|NOW - National Organization of Women]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[PETA|PETA - People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Planned Parenthood|Planned Parenthood Federation of America]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Progressives for Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Rainbow/PUSH Coalition]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[SEIU|SEIU - Service Employees International Union]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[U.S. Peace Council]]&lt;br /&gt;
Source: [http://www.politixgroup.com/lo.htm The Politix Group]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes on Liberals==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;I never use the words [[Democrats]] and [[Republicans]]. It's [[liberals]] and [[Americans]].&amp;quot; -James Watt, Secretary of the Interior under [[Ronald Reagan]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Conservative resources]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Conservapedia:Articles about liberals|Articles about liberals]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Classical liberal]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Drinking Liberally]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Godless liberal]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Last wordism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Essay:Liberal celebrity obsession|Liberal celebrity obsession]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Essay:Liberal Behavior on Conservapedia|Liberal Behavior on Conservapedia]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal Democrats]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal Elite]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Essay: Liberal Falsehoods|Liberal Falsehoods]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal Fascism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal friendship]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal Gloss]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal grading]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Essay:Liberal hysteria|Liberal hysteria]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Essay:Liberal Intellectualism|Liberal Intellectualism]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal labels]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Slander: Liberal Lies About the American Right|Liberal Lies About the American Right]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal logic]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness|Liberal Mind]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal Party]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Liberal supremacist]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Massachusetts liberal]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Progressives]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Scientific Illiteracy and Liberals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further Information==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Best_New_Conservative_Words#New_Liberal_Terms|New Liberal Terms]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Conservative Links]]&lt;br /&gt;
* http://www.studentnewsdaily.com/conservative-vs-liberal-beliefs/&lt;br /&gt;
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The  '''mainstream media''' ('''MSM'''), also humorously known by many of its very large number of vocal critics as the '''lamestream media''', are the increasingly [[liberal]] media organs that censor the dissemination of news.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The common denominator of the &amp;quot;mainstream media&amp;quot; is their [[censorship|censoring]] or downplaying stories that would lead viewers to [[conservative]] conclusions, and their use of [[photo bias]], [[placement bias]] and other forms of deception to mislead viewers into drawing incorrect [[liberal]] conclusions.  The term '''mainstream media''' usually refers to how the majority of commercial-based or taxpayer-funded news reporting and commentary consist of [[liberal media | liberal bias]], while falsely pretending to be objective providers of information. &lt;br /&gt;
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{{cquote|''They [the media] are not becoming irrelevant, but they are getting to the point where they are worse than irrelevant,” and “They’re the scourge of the American people.''|||[[Andrew Breitbart]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/75274 Tea Party Must Stand Up to Liberal Smear Tactics, Conservative Activist Says, CNSNews, September 14, 2010]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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Examples include:&lt;br /&gt;
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*Without any evidence of church attendance or Bible-reading by the [[Anders Behring Breivik|defendant]] accused of murdering 92 people in Norway, the headline of the leading Australian newspaper declared, &amp;quot;Norway suspect 'fundamentalist Christian.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-world/norway-suspect-fundamentalist-christian-20110724-1huqg.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The headline appears to be based in part on a [[Facebook]] page that was likely not even authentic.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fairness Doctrine ==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1987, the [[Federal Communications Commission]] voted 4-0 to revoke, and cancel their enforcement of the [[Fairness Doctrine]]. The Fairness Doctrine mandated that if any opinion considered &amp;quot;controversial&amp;quot; were ever discussed on the public airwaves, the station over which that opinion aired was required to give [[Censorship|equal time]] to any person wishing to reply. However, the FCC never set a standard about ''interpretations'' of current events that might be disputable, or even examined that issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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With the revocation of the Fairness Doctrine, [[radio]] and [[television]] stations were now permitted to air any opinion or interpretation of the news, no matter how &amp;quot;controversial,&amp;quot; without regard to the giving of &amp;quot;equal time.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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On August 1, 1988, a new radio commentator named [[Rush Limbaugh]] began [[broadcast]]ing in national [[syndication]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== List of mainstream media organs ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:MSMbyTEA.jpg|200px|thumb|right|Protest sign expressing [[Tea Party Movement]]'s attitude toward MSM]]&lt;br /&gt;
Significant mainstream media outlets include:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Newspapers'''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[The New York Times]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[The Washington Post]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[The Boston Globe]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[The Philadelphia Inquirer]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[The Atlanta Journal-Constitution]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The [[Los Angeles Times]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[The San Francisco Chronicle]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''[[USA Today]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* ''The [[Wall Street Journal]]''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The inclusion of ''The Wall Street Journal'' might strike some media observers as strange, until one remembers that, though its editorial board is [[conservative]] on most issues (except for immigration), its [[city room]] is definitely [[liberal]] in orientation and coverage of the news.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* All major, standard-newspaper-format dailies that have existed since before the Fairness Doctrine repeal.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''News Syndication Agencies'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Associated Press (AP)|Associated Press]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[UPI|United Press International]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Reuters]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Television'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[CBS]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[NBC]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[ABC]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[National Public Radio]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[PBS|Public Broadcasting Service]]&lt;br /&gt;
* The [[CNN|Cable News Network]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Fox News]] (see below).&lt;br /&gt;
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Some media consumers do not consider [[Fox News Channel|Fox News]] to be part of the &amp;quot;mainstream media&amp;quot; as Fox News frequently presents viewpoints that do not fall in line with other mainstream outlets. For example, in 2007, the [[Democratic Party|Democratic]] [[2008_Presidential_Election#Declared_Democratic_Party_Candidates|presidential candidates]] declared that they would not appear in debates hosted by Fox News, but they did appear on other MSM news outlets. &lt;br /&gt;
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However, ratings indicate that because of its massive popularity, Fox News could be considered to be part of the mainstream media by definition. According to ratings organization [[Nielsen ratings|Nielsen]]:&lt;br /&gt;
:* Fox News has the 10 most viewed cable TV news shows (as of Dec 2009).&lt;br /&gt;
:* Fox News mean prime-time viewing figures are triple that of [[MSNBC]], and double that of CNN,  and exceed the total ratings of CNN, MSNBC and [[CNBC]] combined.&lt;br /&gt;
:* &amp;quot;In 2006, more than half the people watching cable news were watching Fox News&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Authors unknown. &amp;quot;[http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2007/narrative_cabletv_audience.asp?cat=2&amp;amp;media=6 The State of the News Media 2007].&amp;quot; ''Project for Excellence in Journalism,'' 2007. Retrieved August 2, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===CNN===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2006 CNN.com ran an article by columnist R. Emmett Tyrell Jr. entitled &amp;quot;Tyrell: Goodbye MSM... and good riddance!&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[R. Emmett Tyrell|Tyrell, R. Emmet]]. &amp;quot;[http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/03/02/tyrrell.msm/index.html?iref=newssearch Goodbye MSM... and good riddance!]&amp;quot; Creators' Syndicate, 2006. Retrieved August 2, 2007, from [http://www.cnn.com CNN].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Examining the relationship between the [[alternative media|alternative press]] and the MSM, Tyrell writes:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt; So we hear this week that President George W. Bush is taking delight in the spread of the &amp;quot;alternative press&amp;quot; (read conservatives on the Internet, in talk radio, in print, and at Fox) and the gentle detumescence of &amp;quot;mainstream media&amp;quot; (read liberal media, or more precisely, Democratic media). Well I join him in his satisfaction. &amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=='Alternative Media'==&lt;br /&gt;
Differing opinions also exist over the definition of a similar term - '''Alternative Media'''.   Although some consider, for example, [[Rush Limbaugh]]'s launch to be the birth of 'alternative media', so too do the left consider publications like [[The Nation]] to be 'alternative media.'&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Albert, Michael. &amp;quot;[http://www.zmag.org/whatmakesalti.htm Alternative Media: What Makes Alternative Media Alternative?]&amp;quot; ''[http://www.zmag.org/ Z]'' Magazine. Retrieved August 2, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In fact, many would view the [[Village Voice]] group to be the most widely published 'alternative media' outlet in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
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By whatever definition, most media watchers would classify as &amp;quot;alternative media&amp;quot; any media organ that is primarily hosted on the [[Internet]] rather than printed and delivered or mailed to subscribers. The alternative media ''is not'' exclusively conservative. It includes [[liberal]] organs as well. Some writers on these organs have suggested that the mainstream media has a ''conservative'' bias--by which they actually mean that mainstream-media organs are not as revolutionary, or as radical, in their thinking as are the writers themselves.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Peter Dreier|Dreier, Peter]]. &amp;quot;[http://alternet.org/workplace/58108/ For a Brief Moment, The Media Rediscover Poverty].&amp;quot; [http://alternet.org AlterNet.org], July 26, 2007. Retrieved August 2, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Rory O'Connor|O'Connor, Rory]]. &amp;quot;[http://alternet.org/mediaculture/55915/ The Future of Citizen Journalism]. [http://alternet.org AlterNet.org], July 3, 2007. Retrieved August 2, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [[Sheldon Rampton|Rampton, Sheldon]]. &amp;quot;[http://alternet.org/story/54339/ Has the Internet Changed the Propaganda Model?]&amp;quot; [http://alternet.org AlterNet.org], June 22, 2007. Retrieved August 2, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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At least one MSM organ, [[CBS]] News, attempted in 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Pogue, David. &amp;quot;[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/07/09/sunday/main1786520.shtml?source=search_story Brave New Blogging World:&lt;br /&gt;
David Pogue Ventures Into The Blogosphere].&amp;quot; [http://www.cbsnews.com/ CBSNews.com], July 9, 2006. Retrieved August 2, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to describe what a particular alternative-media segment (i.e., [[blog]]s) thinks of the MSM:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|They don't believe that you are unbiased, objective, fair a lot of times. And so what they want is they want to read a lot of different sources themselves. because they don't trust the mainstream media..that would be [you].}}&lt;br /&gt;
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It is worth noting that liberal blog activity on the internet declined after the election of [[Barack Hussein Obama]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://bloggasm.com/blog-traffic-for-liberal-blogs-down-58-in-three-months-following-election-conservative-blogs-down-36&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and continued to decline after his reelection. This shows that the distaste for bias in the liberal MSM is spreading to the alternative media.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Liberal media]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Advocacy journalism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Journalistic malpractice]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Deaths directly attributed to the liberal media]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Alternative media]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.mediaresearch.org/biasbasics/biasbasics1.asp Media Bias Basics.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664.aspx Media Bias Is Real-Finds UCLA Political Scientist.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.mrc.org/biasalert/archive.aspx Bias Alert.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html Who Controls the Media?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.freepress.net/ownership/chart/main Ownership Chart: The Big Six.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.mathaba.net/news/?x=626979 Media Lies on Libya Ongoing.]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlSlXO_X_fE&amp;amp;feature=related Stephen Lendman talks about Libya and Media.] [[Stephen Lendman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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 | party_name=Democratic Party&lt;br /&gt;
 | party_articletitle = Democratic Party (United States)&lt;br /&gt;
 | party_logo = [[Image:democraticpartyusalogo.png|200px]]&lt;br /&gt;
 | website = [http://www.democrats.org www.democrats.org]&lt;br /&gt;
 | headquarters = 430 South Capitol Street SE&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; [[Washington, D.C.]]&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;20003 &lt;br /&gt;
 | chairman = [[Debbie Wasserman Schultz]]   &lt;br /&gt;
 | houseleader = [[Nancy Pelosi]] &lt;br /&gt;
 | senateleader = [[Harry Reid]] &lt;br /&gt;
 | foundation = 1832&lt;br /&gt;
 | ideology = range from extreme [[leftist]] to [[moderate]]&lt;br /&gt;
 | fiscalpolicy = [[Socialist]]/[[Liberal]]&lt;br /&gt;
 | socialpolicy = center-liberal/[[Hollywood values]]&lt;br /&gt;
 | colors = Blue (unofficial)&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&lt;br /&gt;
The '''Democratic Party''' is one of the two major political [[parties]] in the [[United States of America]]. In general it is [[pro-abortion]] and anti-[[free enterprise]], supporting higher taxes, anti-gun policies, and a larger government, while the [[Republican Party]] is generally [[pro-life]] and pro-free enterprise, supporting lower taxes and small government. President [[Barack Obama]] and other Democrats are [[liberal]] / [[Progressive]] leftists. Many [[conservative]]s consider him to be the worst president to date.&lt;br /&gt;
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Members of the Democratic Party are known as Democrats. In the 19th century &amp;amp;mdash; when it supported [[slavery]] &amp;amp;mdash; the party was sometimes called &amp;quot;The Democracy.&amp;quot; Today, there are Democrats who claim to be more [[conservative]] than typical liberals, called the &amp;quot;[[Blue Dogs]]&amp;quot; in [[Congress]], but they often behave like &amp;quot;lapdogs&amp;quot; for the [[liberal]] party leadership when there is a controversial vote.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the doldrums after 2000, the party roared back with major gains in 2006, which it expanded in 2008 to sweep control of the national government, and leave the GOP in a state of confusion and decline. The GOP bounced back in 2009, with near-unanimous opposition to contentious Democratic policies, especially stimulus spending and health care reform. Polls show Obama's popularity began to sink in the summer of 2009.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Democrats currently control the White House and hold a slim majority in the Senate, but in the 2010 midterm elections, the Republican party won decisive control of the House of Representatives; suburbs and rural areas are still more likely to be in Republican hands.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.multistate.com/Site.nsf/Elections2006PostMaps?OpenPage Multistate.com] Post-Election 2006 Maps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Polls show 50% of voters identify themselves with the Democratic Party as opposed to 35% for the Republican Party.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://people-press.org/reports/display.php3?ReportID=312 Trends in Political Values and Core Attitudes: 1987-2007] Pew Research Center, 22 March 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Surveys which address both the Republican House and the Democratic Senate currently has an average 78% negative approval rating, with only 13% expressing approval.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903.html|title=Congressional Job Approval|work=Real Clear Politics|accessdate=October 2, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Policies and criticism==&lt;br /&gt;
The views of individual Democrats sometimes diverge from the party's official stance as expressed in its national [[party platform]], however unlike the Republican party, the Democratic National Committee has not allowed dissenting opinions to share the podium on matters such as abortion at National Conventions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_03/005787.php] , http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2005_03/005787.php, March 6, 2005&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Democratic party also adopts policy positions and platforms at the state and Congressional district levels.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Economic policy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Unemployment.jpg|thumb|241px|right|''Source: Bureau of Labor Statisitcs'' [http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2009/07/anti-stimulus-in-pictures-any-questions.html]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the field of economic policy, Democrats tend to favor high progressive taxes, more regulation, and higher government spending. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic Party has historically had ties to [[labor union|organized labor]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/913wopoz.asp Paying Dues - The Democrats settle up with their union bosses, [[Weekly Standard]], July 25, 2007 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[National Education Association]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nea.org/index.html National Education Association homepage]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the largest union of public school teachers, is a backbone of the party, supplying the largest number of delegates to its national conventions.&lt;br /&gt;
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Democrats typically state that they want to help low-income Americans, however they usually seek to accomplish this by increasing the tax burden on the wealthiest Americans.&lt;br /&gt;
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Since passage of the Economic Recovery Act of 2009, [[unemployment]] has increased from below 7% to slightly under 10%.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign and military policy===&lt;br /&gt;
According to its platform, the Democratic Party has the objective of strengthening America.  Democratic national leadership has been accused of being ambivalent about terrorism&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.news10.net/display_story.aspx?storyid=22045 &amp;quot;Democrats, ACLU Outraged Over Traveler Terrorism Screening Program&amp;quot;] C. Johnson, Associated Press&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and insufficiently patriotic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/01/smn.19.html CNN Saturday Morning News]Transcript: December 1, 2001 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A poll conducted by [[Fox News]] released in October 2007 found that 1 in 5 Democrats &amp;amp;ndash; nearly 10 million voters &amp;amp;ndash; think the world will be better off if the [[United States]] were to lose the [[War in Iraq]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,299374,00.html Nearly 1 in 5 Democrats Say World Will Be Better Off if U.S. Loses War], FOX News Poll, October 04, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The poll found this sentiment 3 to 4 times higher among Democrats than among moderate, centrist, and Republican voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Education===   &lt;br /&gt;
An organization affiliated with the [[Democratic Leadership Council]] called the [[Progressive Policy Institute]] claims a long-standing opposition to school vouchers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;21st Century Schools Project Bulletin: Special Edition [http://www.ppionline.org/ppi_ci.cfm?knlgAreaID=110&amp;amp;subsecID=900001&amp;amp;contentID=250630 ''Putting Vouchers in Perspective''], PPI E-newsletter 2 July 2002&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Jonathan Alter of ''Newsweek'' warned that opposition to vouchers might alienate some traditional Democratic voting blocs:   &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;quot;Can wealthy white liberals - many of whom send their kids to private school - really say to poor parents: 'We can have choices, but you must not?'...This is a glaring hypocrisy sitting at the heart of the liberal opposition to targeted vouchers… Right now, Democrats are in a highly compromised position on education.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.edreform.com/index.cfm?fuseAction=newsLetter&amp;amp;sectionID=29&amp;amp;NLissueID=4&amp;amp;articleID=11&amp;amp;altCol=2 Center For Education Reform, Monthly Letter to Friends No. 75], Back to School 2002.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Democrats favor expanded taxpayer funding of higher education, particularly for scientific research, land-grant colleges, community colleges and historically black colleges.&amp;lt;ref name=ed/&amp;gt; President Obama established a White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/executive-order-historically-black-colleges-and-universities|title=Executive Order 13532 -- Historically Black Colleges and Universities|date=February 26, 2010|accessdate=November 2, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Democrats cut the interest rate on Stafford student loans to 3.4% and eliminated private banks as middlemen in federal student loans.&amp;lt;ref name=ed&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.whitehouse.gov/issues/education/higher-education|title=Higher Education|accessdate=November 2, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Environment vs Labor===&lt;br /&gt;
Two other important coalition groups also find themselves in direct conflict with each other within the Democratic party coalition--[[Environmentalist]]s and Labor Unions.  While environmentalists support efforts like clean air and alternative fuels, for example, this creates tension with the workers of American automobile manufactures whose jobs are threatened by environmental policies such as increasing regulations and high costs. Such policies can lead to cutbacks and layoffs. Balancing these issues is difficult because some sacrifices of interests must be made by both sides.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Health care===&lt;br /&gt;
Democratic leaders have endorsed various [[Democratic Health Care Plans]]; the question in 2009 was whether a new trillion dollar plan could pass in a time of economic crisis. Many Democrats favor single-payer health insurance, but as a compromise supported a plan that preserves private health insurance with an individual mandate and government subsidy of premiums based on the health care plan adopted in Massachusetts. On March 21, 2010, [[ObamaCare]] was passed by Congress, and President Obama signed it into law on March 23, 2010.&lt;br /&gt;
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Many argue that there may be some advantages to a universal health care system. Democrats generally regard [[universal health care]] coverage to be a priority because of the appeal to poorer voters without any kind of [[health insurance]].  Others argue that the United States must compete with foreign countries where governments cover all health care costs giving foreign companies an advantage over U.S. products.  Another argument is that prior to ObamaCare, uninsured people would fail to get preventative care and would go to hospital emergency rooms for treatment, resulting in higher health care costs and large subsidies paid by people with health insurance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gay Rights===&lt;br /&gt;
White Democratic leaders &amp;amp;mdash; but not blacks or Latinos &amp;amp;mdash; consistently favor measures such as the establishment of [[same-sex civil union]]s or marriage. On May 9, 2012, [[Barack Obama|President Obama]] announced that he supports same-sex marriage.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ABC News&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/obama-sex-marriage-legal-16312904|title=Obama Affirms Support for Same-Sex Marriage|date=May 9, 2012|work=ABC News}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite news|url=http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/obama-same-sex-marriage/index.html|title=Obama announces he supports same-sex marriage|last=Gast|first=Phil|date=May 9, 2012|publisher=CNN|accessdate=November 1, 2012}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Other Policies===&lt;br /&gt;
Democrats frequently support the minimum wage, workplace protections, the right of women to choose to have an [[abortion]], [[gun control]], gay marriage, and the separation of church and state.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Religion==&lt;br /&gt;
In the United States, there is some correlation between religious and political affiliation, though people of all faiths and denominations can be found among the supporters of each of the main parties.&lt;br /&gt;
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Historically, [[Roman Catholic Church|Catholic]] voters have had a tendency to identify with the Democratic Party; in recent decades there has been little difference. However, Catholic politicians are mostly Democrats, including Speaker of the House [[Nancy Pelosi]]. However, several general ideals of the Democratic Party's platform &amp;amp;mdash; most notably, the party's overall support for the legality of [[abortion]] and many methods of [[contraception]] &amp;amp;mdash; are contrary to the position of the [[Catholic Church]]. In 2012, there was a controversy regarding a national organization of religious women (&amp;quot;nuns&amp;quot;) speaking out against House Republican budget proposals.  This resulted in a national publicity tour and protests called &amp;quot;Nuns on the Bus&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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With regard to Protestants, members of [[Evangelical]] churches in recent years have voted about 70-80% Republican.  However, the large majority of Democratic Party members are Protestants.  One unusual feature of the Democratic Party, however, is that it draws substantial support both from committed African-American Protestants (most of whom are Baptists) and from secular and atheist voters. The strong opposition to [[homosexuality]] found among many Black Protestants contrasts strikingly with the support frequently shown by other Democrats for the [[homosexual agenda]]. One reason for this contrast could be the Democrats' strong support for minority rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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Democrats also generally believe that organized religion should be separate from public life, and as such are typically supported by the [[ACLU]].  For example, in 1999 the Congress took up a bill to protect the display of the [[Ten Commandments]].  In the House of Representatives, over 3/4ths of the Democratic party members voted to remove the display.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/06/18/gun.rollcall/ten.commandments.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  The measure did not pass the Congress, and as a result when a member of the Alabama Supreme Court, [[Roy Moore]], posted a [[Ten Commandments]] display in his courthouse, the ACLU was able to have the display removed.&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Dem-leaders.jpg|thumb|300px|Clockwise from far left: presidents Carter, Kennedy, Clinton, Wilson, Johnson, Truman, Jackson, Roosevelt]]&lt;br /&gt;
===First Party System===&lt;br /&gt;
Democrats claim the [[Thomas Jefferson]] founded their party in 1793 at the start of the [[First Party System]]. The [[Democratic-Republican Party]] was a political party established during the 1790's under the leadership of Thomas Jefferson and [[James Madison]]. It was generally called the Republican Party, but it had no relation to today's Republican Party, founded in 1854. By about 1816, the Federalist Party had broken up as a national organization. With its decline, the Democratic-Republican Party split into several groups. [[Andrew Jackson]] emerged as the candidate of one of these groups and was elected President in 1828.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Origins===&lt;br /&gt;
Most historians regard Jackson's 1832 campaign organization as the beginning of today's Democratic Party. The Democratic Party itself traces its origin to Jefferson's Democratic-Republican Party.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[World Book]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A few Democratic-Republicans, such as [[John Quincy Adams]] and [[Henry Clay]], created the [[National Republican Party]]. Adams supporters called themselves National Republicans, antecedents of the Whig and later the Republican parties.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;presidents&amp;quot;&amp;gt;William DeGregorio, ''The Complete Book of U.S. Presidents'', Gramercy 1997&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The modern Democratic party was formed during 1828-34, under the national leadership of Jackson and Van Buren, with organizations in all the states comprised of local political leaders. This became the era of [[Jacksonian Democracy]].  The Jacksonians resembled the [[Jeffersonian Democracy|Jeffersonians]] especially in terms of anti-elite rhetoric of opposition to &amp;quot;aristocracy&amp;quot; (that is, wealthy old families), distrust of banks (and paper money), and faith in &amp;quot;the people.&amp;quot; By his extensive use of federal [[Spoils system|patronage]], President Jackson removed old office-holders to make way for party loyalists.  With the emergence of the Whig Party, the nation now had a new party system, the [[Second Party System]], which lasted until 1854.&lt;br /&gt;
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The party held its first national convention in 1832 to choose a new running mate for Jackson; it nominated Martin Van Buren for vice president and endorsed the reelection of Jackson. Jackson easily defeated Clay in 1832.  In the political realignment of 1828-32, some of Jackson's supporters from the election of 1828, especially businessmen and bankers, switched to the opposition Whig Party as Jackson crusaded against the [[Second Bank of the United States]].  The name &amp;quot;Democratic Party&amp;quot; became common by the mid-1830s.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Jacksonian Democracy: 1832-1854 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[image:donk1837.jpg|thumb|300px|1837 cartoon shows Democratic Party as donkey ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The new party dominated the [[Second Party System]] (as political scientists call it; historians call it &amp;quot;Jacksonian Democracy&amp;quot;,  1832-54.  After 1832, the Democratic Party drew support from a cross section of the country; every group was represented. However the vast majority of rich merchants, bankers and plantation owners were Whigs, as were most evangelical Protestants.  The party was strongest among traditionalistic farmers, frontiersmen, unskilled workers, Irish Catholics, and local or state political leaders. It was weakest in [[New England]], where industrialization turned most factory workers and white collar workers into Whigs, but was dominant in all other regions.  The key issues it promoted were opposition to elites and aristocrats, popular democracy (in terms of voting rights and access to government patronage jobs) and opposition to the [[Bank of the United States]] (Jackson vetoed its charter renewal in 1832).  The policies were known as [[Jacksonian Democracy]]. [[Image:Jackson1832.jpg|thumb|300px|left]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Banking and tariffs were the central domestic policy issues from 1828 to 1852.  The Democrats favored the [[Mexican-American War]]; Whigs opposed it. Democrats attracted Catholic Irish and German immigrants and denounced anti-immigrant nativism. Both the Democrats and Whigs were divided on the issue of slavery.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1830s the [[Loco-Focos]] in New York City were radically democratic, anti-monopoly, and proponents of [[laissez-faire]].  Their chief spokesman was writer [[William Leggett]]. At this time labor unions were few; some were loosely affiliated with the party.&lt;br /&gt;
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The economy went sour in the late 1830s with Van Buren getting the blame; he lost reelection as president in 1840 to the Whig [[William Henry Harrison]]. The Democrats gained the White House back in 1844 with [[James K. Polk]]. He had a successful term, then retired. The Democratic National Committee was created in 1848 at the convention that nominated General [[Lewis Cass]], who lost to General [[Zachary Taylor]] of the Whigs. In state after state the Democrats gained small but permanent advantages over the Whigs, until by 1852 the Whig Party was fatally weakened by divisions regarding the issue of slavery and they soon vanished. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party dominated the North from the 1840s to 1854. Northern Democrats opposed banks, criticized corporate practices, and preached the ideals of a free society. They called for rapid territorial expansion of the United States, saying that in territorial expansion lay a means for thwarting the pretensions of the [[Slave Power]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Franklin Pierce]] of New Hampshire was elected president in 1852, followed by [[James Buchanan]] of Pennsylvania in 1856. They proved poor presidents who lost control of the slavery issue, and the party, as the nation broke apart and fought the [[American Civil War]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Third Party System: Civil War, Gilded Age: 1854-1896==&lt;br /&gt;
During the [[Third Party System]] (1854-1896) the Democrats became the minority in the face of the newly formed Republican Party, which controlled nearly all northern states by 1860, bringing a solid majority in the Electoral College.  A powerful Republican issue was the allegation that northern Democrats, including &amp;quot;Doughfaces&amp;quot; like Pierce and Buchanan, and advocates of popular sovereignty like [[Stephen A. Douglas]] and [[Lewis Cass]], were accomplices to the [[Slave Power]]. The Republicans meant by Slave Power the conspiracy of slaveholders to seize control of the federal government and block the progress of liberty.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:DEM1860.JPG|200px|thumb|left|To vote for Douglas in Virginia, a man had to deposit the ticket in the official ballot box.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1860 the Democrats were unable to stop the election of Republican [[Abraham Lincoln]], even as they feared his election would lead to civil war.  The party split in two.  The northern wing nominated Douglas, and the southern wing nominated Vice President [[John C. Breckinridge]]. Douglas campaigned across the country and came in second in the popular vote, but carried only Missouri. Breckinridge carried 11 slave states. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Republican Party was beginning a 50-year era of dominance (1858-1910). During the war, Northern Democrats divided into two factions, [[War Democrats]], who supported the military policies of President Lincoln, and [[Copperheads]], who strongly opposed them. Historian Kenneth Stampp has captured the Copperhead spirit in his depiction of Democratic Congressman [[Daniel W. Voorhees]] of Indiana: &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;There was an earthy quality in Voorhees, &amp;quot;the tall sycamore of the Wabash.&amp;quot; On the stump his hot temper, passionate partisanship, and stirring eloquence made an irresistible appeal to the western Democracy. His bitter cries against protective tariffs and national banks, his intense race prejudice, his suspicion of the eastern Yankee, his devotion to personal liberty, his defense of the Constitution and state rights faithfully reflected the views of his constituents. Like other Jacksonian agrarians he resented the political and economic revolution then in progress. Voorhees idealized a way of life which he thought was being destroyed by the current rulers of his country. His bold protests against these dangerous trends made him the idol of the Democracy of the Wabash Valley.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Stampp, 211.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Democrats lost consecutive presidential elections from 1860 through 1880 (but 1876 was in dispute); 1884 was their next victory. The Democrats were weakened by their record of opposition to the Civil War but nevertheless benefited from white Southerners' resentment of Reconstruction and consequent hostility to the Republican Party. The [[Redeemers]] gave the Democrats control of every Southern state; the disenfranchisement of black voters in most of the South took place 1890-1900. From 1880 to 1960 the &amp;quot;[[Solid South]]&amp;quot; voted Democratic in all presidential elections (except 1928). After 1900 the key election in southern states was the Democratic primary; victory in the that primary was &amp;quot;tantamount to election&amp;quot; because the GOP was so weak.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Though Republicans continued to control the White House until 1912 (except 1884 and 1892), the Democrats remained competitive in the states, especially in the mid-Atlantic and lower Midwest, and controlled the House of Representatives for most of that period. In the election of 1884, [[Grover Cleveland]], the conservative Democratic Governor of New York, won the presidency, a feat he repeated in 1892, having lost in the election of 1888.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:1893cleveland-typewriter.jpg|thumb|350px|Typewriters were new in 1893 and this Gillam cartoon from ''Puck'' shows that Cleveland can't get the Democratic &amp;quot;machine&amp;quot; to work as the keys (key politicians) won't respond to his efforts.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Cleveland was the leader of the [[Bourbon Democrats]], the conservative wing of the party.  They represented business interests, supported banking and railroad goals, promoted capitalism, opposed imperialism and U.S. verseas expansion, opposed the annexation of [[Hawaii]], fought for the [[gold standard]], and opposed [[Bimetallism]].  They strongly supported reform movements such as [[Pendleton Civil Service Reform Act|Civil Service Reform]] and opposed corruption of city bosses, leading the fight against the [[Tweed Ring]].  The leading Bourbons included [[Samuel J. Tilden]], [[David Bennett Hill]] and [[William C. Whitney]] of New York, [[Arthur Pue Gorman]] of Maryland, [[Thomas F. Bayard]] of Delaware, [[William L. Wilson]] of West Virginia, [[John Griffin Carlisle]] of Kentucky, [[William F. Vilas]] of Wisconsin, [[J. Sterling Morton]] of Nebraska, [[John M. Palmer]] of Illinois, [[Horace Boies]] of Iowa, [[L.Q.C. Lamar]] of Mississippi, and railroad builder [[James J. Hill]] of Minnesota. A prominent intellectual was [[Woodrow Wilson]]. The Bourbons were in power when the [[Panic of 1893]] hit; it was a deep depression and they took the blame.  A fierce struggle inside the party ensued, with catastrophic losses for both the Bourbon and agrarian factions in 1894, leading to the showdown in 1896.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Dead-dem1880.jpg|thumb|550px|In 1880 when General Hancock (right) became the presidential nominee of the Democrats, Republican cartoonists showed the Democratic party history as a horror chamber featuring atrocities in the Civil War era; the donkey&amp;quot; shows the party as a coalition of the rear end of the South joned to the rear end of the North]]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Ethnocultural voting: pietistic Republicans versus liturgical Democrats===&lt;br /&gt;
Religious lines were sharply drawn.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kleppner (1979).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Methodists, Congregationalists, Presbyterians, Scandinavian Lutherans and other pietists and evangelicals in the North were tightly linked to the Republican Party. In sharp contrast, liturgical groups, especially the Catholics, Episcopalians, and German Lutherans, looked to the Democratic Party for protection from pietistic moralism, especially prohibition.  Both parties cut across the class structure, with the Democrats more bottom-heavy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Cultural issues, especially prohibition and foreign language schools became important because of the sharp religious divisions in the electorate. In the North, about 50% of the voters were pietistic or evangelical Protestants who believed the government should be used to reduce social sins, such as drinking. Liturgical churches (Roman Catholics, German Lutherans, Episcopalians) comprised over a quarter of the vote and wanted the government to stay out of the morality business. Prohibition debates and referenda heated up politics in most states over a period of decade, as national prohibition was finally passed in 1918 (and repealed in 1933), serving as a major issue in the North between the wet Democracy and the dry GOP.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In the South the Democrats were mostly on the dry side. Kleppner (1979).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==The Bryan Movement==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Grover Cleveland]] led the conservative, pro-business [[Bourbon Democrat]]s but as the [[Panic of 1893|depression of 1893]] deepened his enemies multiplied. The Panic of 1893 started in February 1893, a full month before Cleveland became president. Convinced that the [[Sherman Silver Purchase Act]], passed under the administration of [[Benjamin Harrison]], was largely responsible for the alarming drain on federal gold, President Cleveland called Congress into special session to urge its repeal. Congress consented, but only after bitter debate that divided the Democratic party into two hostile camps-the eastern &amp;quot;goldbugs&amp;quot; and the silver wing of the West and South that was to propel young [[William Jennings Bryan]] to the fore in 1896.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;presidents&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; At the 1896 convention the silverite-agrarian faction repudiated the president, and nominated the crusading orator [[William Jennings Bryan]] on a platform of inflation through &amp;quot;free&amp;quot; silver. The idea was that minting huge numbers of silver dollars would flood the economy with cash and end the depression.  Eastern Democrats, unable to accept the party's free-silver platform and unwilling to support McKinley for his tariff views, nominated their own candidate, John M. Palmer of Illinois and called themselves the National, or Gold, Democrats.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;presidents&amp;quot; /&amp;gt; The [[Gold Democrats]] attracted politicians and intellectuals (including [[Woodrow Wilson]] and [[Frederick Jackson Turner]]) who refused to vote Republican. &lt;br /&gt;
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Bryan, an overnight sensation because of his phenomenal &amp;quot;Cross of Gold&amp;quot; speech, crusaded against the gold standard.  Crisscrossing the Midwest and East by special train, he gave over 500 speeches to audiences in the millions.  In St. Louis he gave 36 speeches to workingmen's audiences all over the city, all in one day.  Most Democratic newspapers were hostile (except [[William Randolph Hearst]]'s ''New York Journal'') but Bryan seized control of the media by making the news every day, as he hurled thunderbolts against Eastern monied interests. The rural folk in South and Midwest were ecstatic, showing an enthusiasm never before seen.  Ethnic Democrats, especially Germans, however, were alarmed and frightened by Bryan. The middle classes, businessmen, newspaper editors, factory workers, railroad workers, and prosperous farmers generally rejected Bryan's crusade. Bryan was overwhelmed by [[William McKinley]] in the most exciting race in national history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Refuting Bryan's charges, historians have discovered there was little coercion of workers.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; McKinley promised a return to prosperity based on the gold standard, support for industry, railroads and banks, and pluralism that would enable every group to move ahead. Bryan did however, win the hearts and minds of a majority of Democrats. The election of 1896 was a political realignment. The victory of the Republican Party marked the start of the &amp;quot;Progressive Era,&amp;quot; from 1896 to 1932, in which the GOP usually was dominant.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fourth Party System: Bryan, Wilson, Progressivism: 1896-1932 ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Fourth Party System]] began with the 1896 election, a realignment during which the GOP controlled the presidency for 28 of 36 years. The GOP dominated most of the Northeast and Midwest, and half the West.  Bryan, with a base in the South and Plains states, was strong enough to get the nomination in 1900 (losing to McKinley) and 1908 (losing to Taft).  [[Theodore Roosevelt]] dominated the first decade of the century—and to the annoyance of Democrats &amp;quot;stole&amp;quot; the trust issue by crusading against trusts. &lt;br /&gt;
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Anti-Bryan conservatives controlled the convention in 1904, but they faced a [[Theodore Roosevelt]] landslide.  Bryan dropped his free silver and anti-imperialism rhetoric and supported mainstream progressive issues, such as the income tax, anti-trust, and direct election of Senators. He backed [[Woodrow Wilson]] in 1912, was rewarded with the State Department, then resigned in protest against Wilson's non-pacifistic policies in 1916. Northern Democrats were progressive on most issues, but generally opposed prohibition, were lukewarm regarding woman's suffrage, and were reluctant to undercut the &amp;quot;boss system&amp;quot; in the big cities. &lt;br /&gt;
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Taking advantage of a deep split in the GOP, the Democrats took control of the House in 1910, and elected the intellectual reformer [[Woodrow Wilson]] in 1912 and 1916.  Wilson successfully led Congress to a series of Progressive laws, including a reduced tariff, stronger antitrust laws, the [[Federal Reserve System]], hours-and-pay benefits for railroad workers, and outlawing of child labor (which was reversed by the Supreme Court). Furthermore, constitutional amendments for prohibition and woman suffrage were passed in his second term.  In effect, Wilson laid to rest the issues of tariffs, money and antitrust that had dominated politics for 40 years.  Wilson led the U.S. to victory in the World War, and turned his attention to foreign affairs. He wrote parts of the [[Versailles Treaty]], especially the new [[League of Nations]]. But in 1919 Wilson's political skills faltered, and suddenly everything turned sour.  The Senate rejected Versailles and the League, a nationwide wave of strikes and violence caused unrest, and Wilson's health collapsed.  The GOP came roaring back in a landslide in 1920, as [[Warren G. Harding]] defeated a Democratic ticket memorable for having [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] as the vice presidential nominee. &lt;br /&gt;
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At the 1924 Democratic National Convention, the big fight was over a resolution denouncing by name the [[Ku Klux Klan]]; it was pushed by New York governor [[Al Smith]] and Alabama Senator [[Oscar W. Underwood]] in order to embarrass the front-runner, [[William McAdoo]] of California. After furious debate, the resolution failed by just a single vote. The KKK faded away soon after, but the deep split in the party over cultural issues, especially Prohibition, facilitated Republican landslides in 1920, 1924 and 1928.  However [[Al Smith]] did build a strong Catholic base in the big cities in 1928, and [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]]'s election as Governor of New York that year brought a new leader to center stage.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fifth Party System: The New Deal ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:509px-FDR in 1933.jpg|thumb|left|180px|President [[Franklin Delano Roosevelt]] (1933-1945)]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Wall Street Crash 1929|stock market crash of 1929]] and the ensuing [[Great Depression]] set the stage for a more progressive government and [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] won a [[landslide victory]] in the [[U.S. presidential election, 1932|election of 1932]], campaigning on a platform of &amp;quot;Relief, Recovery, and Reform.&amp;quot; This came to be termed &amp;quot;[[New Deal|The New Deal]]&amp;quot; after a phrase in his acceptance speech. The Democrats also swept to large majorities in both houses of Congress, and among state Governors. Roosevelt altered the nature of the Party, away from laissez-faire capitalism, and towards an ideology of economic regulation and insurance against hardship.  Conservative Democrats were outraged; led by [[Al Smith]] they formed the [[American Liberty League]] in 1934 and counterattacked. They failed and either retired from politics or joined the GOP.  A few of them, such as [[Dean Acheson]] found their way back to the Democratic Party.&lt;br /&gt;
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After making gains in Congress in 1934 Roosevelt moved left and embarked on an ambitious legislative program called &amp;quot;The Second New Deal.&amp;quot;  It was characterized by building up labor unions, nationalizing welfare by the [[WPA]] (which 2 million employed unemployed men), setting up [[Social Security]] and raising taxes on business profits.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; In general the New Deal, 1933-40, did not raise taxes, except for the Social Security tax that went into effect in 1937.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Roosevelt successfully built up the &amp;quot;[[New Deal Coalition]]&amp;quot;, a powerful coalition of voters and interest groups that supported liberalism. Key components included big city machines and labor unions. Key voter groups included traditional Democrats, white Southerners, Catholics, Jews, and liberals, as well as many blacks. This united voter base allowed Democrats to be elected to Congress and the presidency for much of the next 30 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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After a sweeping landslide reelection in 1936--losing only Maine and Vermont--Roosevelt stunned the nation, and his party, by calling for legislation to enlarge the Supreme Court by five new members. A firestorm of opposition erupted, led by his own vice president [[John Nance Garner]]. Roosevelt was defeated by an alliance of Republicans and conservative Democrats, who formed a [[Conservative coalition]] that managed to block nearly all liberal legislation. (Only a minimum wage law got through.) Angry with the conservative wing of his own party, Roosevelt tried to destroy it. In 1938, he actively campaigned against five incumbent conservative Democratic senators; all five senators won re-election. &lt;br /&gt;
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Under FDR, the Democratic Party became identified closely with modern liberalism, which included the promotion of social welfare, unions and regulation of the economy. Civil rights were not on the party agenda at this time.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Truman to Kennedy: 1945-1963==&lt;br /&gt;
Harry Truman took over unexpectedly in 1945, and the rifts inside the party that Roosevelt had papered over began to emerge. Former Vice President [[Henry A. Wallace]] denounced Truman as a war-monger for his anti-Soviet programs, the [[Truman Doctrine]], [[Marshall Plan]], and [[NATO]].   By cooperating with internationalist Republicans, Truman succeeded in defeating isolationists on the right and pro-Soviets on the left to establish a [[Cold War]] program that lasted until the fall of Communism in 1991. Wallace supporters and fellow travelers of the far left were pushed out of the party and the CIO in 1946-48 by young anti-Communists like [[Hubert Humphrey]], [[Walter Reuther]], and [[Arthur Schlesinger, Jr.]]. [[Hollywood]] emerged in the 1940s as an importance new base in the party, led by movie-star politicians such as [[Ronald Reagan]], who at this point in time strongly supported Roosevelt and Truman.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Reagan became a conservative around 1960, saying the Democratic party had left him.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On the right the Republicans blasted Truman’s domestic policies. &amp;quot;Had Enough?&amp;quot; was the winning slogan as Republicans recaptured Congress in 1946.  Many party leaders were ready to dump Truman, but they lacked an alternative. Truman counterattacked, pushing [[J. Strom Thurmond]] and his [[Dixiecrats]] out, and taking advantage of the splits inside the GOP.  He was reelected in a stunning surprise.  However all of Truman’s Fair Deal proposals, such as universal health care were defeated by the [[Conservative Coalition]] in Congress.  His seizure of the steel industry was reversed by the Supreme Court.  &lt;br /&gt;
In foreign policy, Europe was safe but troubles mounted in Asia.  China fell to the Communists in 1949. Truman entered the [[Korean War]] without formal Congressional approval—the last time a president would ever do so. When the war turned to a stalemate in 1951 he fired General [[Douglas MacArthur]], a hero to conservatives. Republicans blasted Truman's failure to stop Communist gains in Asia. A series of petty scandals among friends and buddies of Truman further tarnished his image, allowing [[Dwight Eisenhower]] and the Republicans in 1952 to crusade against &amp;quot;Korea, Communism and Corruption.&amp;quot; Truman dropped out of the presidential race early in 1952, leaving no obvious successor. The convention nominated [[Adlai Stevenson]] in 1952 and 1956, only to see him overwhelmed by two Eisenhower landslides.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In Congress the powerful duo of House Speaker [[Sam Rayburn]] and Senate Majority leader [[Lyndon B. Johnson]] held the party together, often by compromising with Eisenhower. In 1958 the party made dramatic gains in the midterms and seemed to have a permanent lock on Congress. Indeed, Democrats had majorities in the House every election from 1930 to 1992 (except 1946 and 1952). Most southern Congressmen were conservative Democrats, however, and they usually worked with conservative Republicans. The result was a [[Conservative Coalition]] that blocked practically all liberal domestic legislation from 1937 to the 1970s, except for a brief spell 1964-65, when Johnson neutralized its power.&lt;br /&gt;
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The nomination of [[John F. Kennedy]] in 1960 energized the Catholic population, which jammed motorcades and turned out in heavy numbers (over 80% voted for Kennedy), while also causing a backlash among white Protestants (over 70% of whom voted for Republican candidate [[Richard Nixon]].  Reaching beyond the traditional Irish, German, Italian and Polish Catholic ethnics, Viva Kennedy set out to mobilize the previously passive Latino vote, and it perhaps provided the margin of victory for Kennedy in Texas and New Mexico.  Kennedy's victory reinvigorated the party. His youth, vigor and intelligence caught the popular imagination. In foreign policy he was strongly anti-Communist, and promptly launched an invasion of casto's Cuba; it failed badly. A few new programs like the Peace Corps harnessed idealism.  In terms of legislation, Kennedy was stalemated by the [[Conservative Coalition]], and anyway his proposals were all cautious and incremental.  In three years he was unable to pass any significant new legislation. &lt;br /&gt;
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Kennedy's election did mark the coming of age of the Catholic component of the New Deal Coalition.  After 1964 middle class Catholics started voting Republicans in the same proportion as their Protestant neighbors.  Except for the Chicago of [[Richard J. Daley]], the last of the Democratic machines faded away.  His involvement in Vietnam proved momentous, for his successor Lyndon Johnson decided to stay, and double the investment, and double the bet again and again until over 500,000 American soldiers were fighting in that small country.&lt;br /&gt;
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The New Deal Coalition began to fracture as union and religious leaders demanded support for [[civil rights]], upsetting the party's traditional base of conservative Southern Democrats. After Harry Truman's platform showed support for civil rights and anti-segregation policies during the 1948 Democratic National Convention, many Southern Democratic delegates decided to split from the Party and formed the &amp;quot;[[Dixiecrats]],&amp;quot; led by [[South Carolina]] governor [[Strom Thurmond]] (who, as a Senator, would later join the Republican Party). Over the next few years, many conservative Democrats in the &amp;quot;[[Solid South]]&amp;quot; drifted away from the party. By 1940 most northern Blacks had shifted to the Democratic Party due to its New Deal relief programs and support for civil rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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The party's dramatic reversal on civil rights issues culminated when Democratic President [[Lyndon B. Johnson]] signed into law the [[Civil Rights Act of 1964]]. The new laws ended segregation and also ended the main argument Democrats had used to block Republican gains in the South (that is, only the Democrats could protect segregation). The South became competitive in presidential politics in the 1970s and 1980s, giving strong support to Republican Ronald Reagan and rejecting the liberal northern candidates. The Democrats responded by nominating Southerners (Carter in 1976 and 1980, Clinton in 1992 and 1996, Gore in 2000). Few southern states were won by Democratic presidential candidates from the North (Humphrey in 1968, McGovern in 1972, Mondale in 1984, Dukakis in 1988, Kerry in 2004).  At the state and local level the Republicans made slow, steady gains, especially among upscale middle class whites and migrants from the North. By the 1990s the GOP was competitive at the state and local level throughout the South. The Democrats made gains in the west, converting California to a Democratic stronghold and gaining in fast-growing Arizona and Nevada. The Northeast became more and more a Democratic enclave, especially after 2006 when numerous Republican moderates were defeated for reelection.  the Midwest remained a battleground.  The Democrats made strong gains in Illinois, but slipped a little in Minnesota.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic party split five ways in 1968 and became a minority party in presidential elections for decades; after 1964 they won a national majority of the popular presidential vote only in 2008.  However, the Democrats won a plurality of the popular vote in 1976, 1992, 1996 and 2000.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1972, the Democrats nominated Sen. [[George McGovern]] (SD) as the presidential candidate on a platform which advocated, among other things, U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam and a guaranteed minimum income for all Americans. McGovern's forces at the national convention ousted Mayor [[Richard J. Daley]] and the entire Chicago delegation, replacing them with insurgents led by [[Jesse Jackson]]. After it became know that McGovern's running mate, [[Thomas Eagleton]], had received electric shock therapy, McGovern said he supported Eagleton &amp;quot;1000%&amp;quot; but he was soon forced to drop him and find a new running mate.  With his campaign stalled for several weeks McGovern finally selected [[Sargent Shriver]], a Kennedy-in-law who was close to Mayor Daley.  On July 14, 1972, McGovern appointed his campaign manager, Jean Westwood as the first woman chair of the Democratic National Committee.  McGovern was defeated in a landslide by incumbent [[Richard Nixon]], winning only Massachusetts and Washington, D.C.  The [[Watergate affair]] of 1973-74 made corruption a central issue, especially after [[Gerald Ford]] pardoned Nixon in September 1974. The Democrats made major gains in the 1974 off-year elections.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1976, mistrust of the administration, complicated by a combination of economic recession and inflation, sometimes called ''[[stagflation]]'', led to Ford's narrow defeat in 1976 by [[Jimmy Carter]], a former governor of Georgia. &lt;br /&gt;
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Carter represented the total outsider, who promised honesty in government. He had served as a naval officer, a farmer, a state senator, and a one-term governor. His only experience with federal politics was when he chaired the Democratic National Committee's congressional and gubernatorial elections in 1974. Some of Carter's major accomplishments consisted of the creation of a national energy policy and the consolidation of governmental agencies, resulting in two new cabinet departments, the [[United States Department of Energy]] and the [[United States Department of Education]]. Carter also successfully deregulated the trucking, airline, rail, finance, communications, and oil industries, bolstered the [[social security]] system, and appointed record numbers of women and minorities to significant government and judicial posts. He also enacted strong legislation on environmental protection, through the expansion of the [[National Park Service]] in [[Alaska]], adding 103 million acres of park land. In foreign affairs, Carter's accomplishments consisted of the [[Camp David Accords]], the [[Panama Canal Treaties]], the creation of full diplomatic relations with the [[People's Republic of China]], and the negotiation of the [[SALT II]] Treaty. In addition, he championed human rights throughout the world and used human rights as the center of his administration's foreign policy.&lt;br /&gt;
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Even with all of these successes, Carter failed to implement a national health plan or to reform the tax system, as he had promised in his campaign. Inflation was also on the rise. Abroad, the Iranians held 52 Americans hostage for 444 days, and Carter's diplomatic and military rescue attempts failed. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan later that year weakened the perception Americans had of Carter. Even though he had already been defeated for re-election, Carter fortunately was able to negotiate the release of every American hostage. They were lifted out of Iran minutes after Reagan was inaugurated and Carter served as Reagan's emissary to greet them when they arrived in Germany. In 1980, Carter defeated liberal champion [[Edward Kennedy]] to gain renomination, but lost to conservative [[Ronald Reagan]] by a landslide. The Democrats lost 12 Senate seats, and for the first time since 1954, the Republicans controlled the Senate.  The House, however, remained in Democratic hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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===1980s: Battling Reaganism===&lt;br /&gt;
Instrumental in the election of Republican [[Ronald Reagan]] in 1980, were Democrats who supported many conservative policies. Among legislators, one of the most prominent of these consevative Democrats was Georgia congressman and second chairman of the [[John Birch Society]], [[Larry McDonald]], who was a passenger on [[Korean Airlines Flight 007]] shot down by the Soviets near [[Moneron Island]] on Sept. 1, 1983. The &amp;quot;Reagan Democrats&amp;quot;  were Democrats before the Reagan years, and afterward, but they voted for [[Ronald Reagan]] in 1980 and 1984 (and for [[George H. W. Bush]] in 1988), producing their landslide victories. They were mostly white ethnics in the Northeast who were attracted to Reagan's social conservatism on issues such as abortion, and to his strong foreign policy. They did not continue to vote Republican in 1992 or 1996, so the term fell into disuse except as a reference to the 1980s. The term is not used to describe southern whites who became permanent Republicans in presidential elections.   Stanley Greenberg, a Democratic pollster analyzed white ethnic voters, largely unionized auto workers, in suburban Macomb County, Michigan, just north of Detroit. The county voted 63 percent for Kennedy in 1960 and 66 percent for Reagan in 1984.  He concluded that Reagan Democrats no longer saw Democrats as champions of their middle class aspirations, but instead saw it as being a party working primarily for the benefit of others, especially African Americans and the very poor.  Bill Clinton targeted the Reagan Democrats with considerable success in 1992 and 1996. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Liberal1984.jpg|thumb|350px]] The failure to hold the Reagan Democrats and the white South led to the final collapse of the [[New Deal coalition]]. Reagan carried 49 states against former Vice President and Minnesota Senator [[Walter Mondale]], a New Deal stalwart, in 1984.  Massachusetts Governor [[Michael Dukakis]], running not as a New Dealer but as an efficiency expert in public administration, lost by a landslide in 1988 to Vice President [[George H. W. Bush]], who had pledged &amp;quot;no new taxes.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to these landslide defeats, the [[Democratic Leadership Council]] was created. It worked to move the Party rightwards to the ideological center in order to recover some of the fundraising that had been lost to the Republicans due to corporate donors supporting Reagan. With the Party retaining left-of-center supporters as well as supporters holding moderate or conservative views on some issues, the Democrats became generally a &amp;quot;big tent&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;catch all party&amp;quot; with widespread appeal to most opponents of the Republicans.&lt;br /&gt;
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===The South moves toward Republicans===&lt;br /&gt;
In the century after the end of [[Reconstruction]] in 1877, the white South identified with Democratic Party. The Democrats' lock on power was so strong, the region was called the [[Solid South]]. The Republicans only controlled parts of the Appalachian mountains, but they sometimes did compete for statewide office in the border states. Before 1964, the southern Democrats saw their party as the defender of the southern way of life, which included a respect for states' rights and an appreciation for traditional southern values. They repeatedly warned against the aggressive designs of Northern liberals and Republicans, as well as civil rights activists whom they denounced as &amp;quot;outside agitators.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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However, between 1964 and 2004, the Democratic Party's lock on the South was broken. The long-term cause had to do with the South becoming more like the rest of the nation. It could not long stand apart in terms of racial segregation.  Modernization had brought factories, national businesses, and larger, more cosmopolitan cities to the South, as well as millions of migrants from the North and more opportunities for higher education. Meanwhile, the cotton and tobacco economy of the traditional rural South faded away, as former farmers commuted to factory jobs. &lt;br /&gt;
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Integration and the civil rights movement caused enormous controversy in the white South, with many attacking it as a violation of states' rights.  When segregation was outlawed by court order and by the Civil Rights acts of 1964 and 1965, a die-hard element resisted integration, led by Democratic governors  [[Orval Faubus]] of Arkansas, [[Lester Maddox]] of Georgia, and, especially [[George Wallace]] of Alabama. These populist governors appealed to a less-educated, blue-collar electorate that on economic grounds favored the Democratic Party, but opposed desegregation. After 1965 most Southerners accepted integration (with the exception of public schools). Believing themselves betrayed by the Democratic Party, traditional white southerners joined the new middle-class and the Northern transplants in moving toward the Republican Party. Meanwhile, newly enfranchised Black voters began supporting Democratic candidates at the 80-90-percent levels, producing Democratic leaders such as [[Julian Bond]] and [[John Lewis]] of Georgia, and [[Barbara Jordan]] of Texas. Just as Martin Luther King had promised, integration had brought about a new day in Southern politics, freeing both blacks and whites from old hatreds and fears. &lt;br /&gt;
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Using issues of cultural conservatism, especially opposition to abortion and homosexuality and support for school prayer, Republicans attracted strong majorities among evangelical Christians. They were nationwide, but strongest in the South; before to the 1980s they were largely apolitical.  Exit polls in 2004 showed that Bush led Kerry by 70-30% among Southern whites, who comprised 71% of the voters.  Kerry had a 90-9 lead among the 18% of Southern voters who were black. One third of the Southern voters said they were white evangelicals; they voted for Bush by 80-20.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See the exit polls at {{cite web|url=http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.3.html |date=2004-11-02\|accessdate=2006-11-18|title=U.S. PRESIDENT / REGION: SOUTH / EXIT POLL}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the 1990s the Democratic Party revived itself, in part by moving to the right on economic and social policy. President [[Bill Clinton]], who defeated the incumbent [[George H. W. Bush]] in 1992, implemented a balanced federal budget and [[welfare reform]] (cutting benefits and requiring many recipients to take jobs), traditionally conservative causes. Labor unions, which had been steadily losing membership since the 1960s, found they had also lost political clout inside the Democratic Party: Clinton enacted the [[NAFTA]] free trade agreement with Canada and Mexico over the strong objection of these labor unions, much to the disappointment of those on the left of the party. The [[Republican Party (United States)|Republican Party]] took control of both the House of Representatives and the United States Senate after the 1994 election. Clinton was impeached in 1998 and subsequently acquitted in 1999.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the [[Democratic Leadership Council]] (DLC) attempted to move the Democratic agenda in favor of more centrist positions, prominent Democrats from both the centrist and conservative factions assumed leadership of the party and its direction. Some liberals and progressives felt alienated by the Democratic Party, which they felt had become unconcerned with the interests of the common people and left-wing issues in general. Some Democrats challenged the validity of such critiques, citing the Democratic role in pushing for progressive reforms.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Election of 2000===&lt;br /&gt;
During the presidential election of 2000, the Democrats chose Vice President [[Al Gore]] to be the party's candidate for the presidency. Gore and [[George W. Bush]], the Republican candidate and son of former President George H.W. Bush, disagreed on a number of issues, including abortion, gun control, environmentalism, gay rights, tax cuts, foreign policy, public education, global warming, judicial appointments, and affirmative action. Nevertheless, Gore's affiliation with Clinton and the DLC caused critics—Green Party presidential candidate [[Ralph Nader]] in particular—to assert that Bush and Gore were too similar, especially on free trade, reductions in social welfare, and the death penalty. &amp;quot;We want to punish the Democrats, we want to hurt them, wound them,&amp;quot; Nader's closest advisor said.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harry G. Levinem &amp;quot;Ralph Nader, Suicide Bomber.&amp;quot; ''The Village Voice'' May 3, 2004 at [http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0418,levine,53179,1.html] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Gore won a popular plurality of over 500,000 votes over Bush, but lost in the electoral vote by four votes. In a close election anything can be decisive, but many angry Democrats blamed Nader's third-party spoiler role for Gore's defeat. Controversy plagued the election, and Gore largely dropped from politics for years; by 2005 however he was making speeches critical of Bush's foreign and environmental policies.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite Gore's close defeat, the Democrats gained five seats in the Senate (including the election of [[Hillary Clinton]] in New York), to turn a 55-45 Republican edge into a 50-50 split (with a Republican Vice President breaking a tie). However, when Republican Senator [[Jim Jeffords]] of Vermont decided in 2001 to become an independent and caucus with the Democrats, the majority status shifted along with the seat, including control of the floor (by the Majority Leader) and control of all committee chairmanships. However, the Republicans regained their Senate majority with gains in 2002 and 2004, leaving the Democrats with only 44 seats, the fewest since the 1920s.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the aftermath of the [[9-11 Attacks]], the nation's focus was changed to issues of national security. All but one Democrat&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Representative [[Barbara Lee]] of Texas&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; joined the Republicans to authorize President Bush to invade invasion of Afghanistan and overthrow the Taliban. House leader [[Richard Gephardt]] and Senate leader [[Thomas Daschle]] pushed Democrats to vote for the [[USA PATRIOT Act]] and the 2003 invasion of Iraq. The Democrats were split over entering Iraq in 2003 and increasingly expressed concerns about both the justification and progress of the [[War on Terrorism]], as well as the domestic effects, including supposed threats to civil rights and civil liberties from the PATRIOT Act. Senator [[Russ Feingold]] was the only Senator to vote against the act; it received more resistance when it came up for renewal, but was renewed in 2006.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the wake of the financial fraud scandal of the [[Enron Corporation]] and other corporations, Congressional Democrats pushed for a legal overhaul of business accounting with the intention of preventing further accounting fraud. This led to the bipartisan [[Sarbanes-Oxley Act]] in 2002. Economic issues did not work well in 2002, as the Democrats lost a few seats in the U.S. House of Representatives. They lost three seats in the Senate. While Democrats gained governorships in New Mexico (where [[Bill Richardson]] was elected), Arizona ([[Janet Napolitano]]) and Wyoming ([[Dave Freudenthal]]), other Democrats lost governorships in South Carolina ([[Jim Hodges]]), Alabama ([[Don Siegelman]]) and, for the first time in more than a century, Georgia ([[Roy Barnes]]). The election led to another round of soul searching about the party's narrowing base. The party's miseries mounted in 2003, when a voter recall unseated their unpopular governor of California, [[Gray Davis]], and replaced him which a charismatic liberal Republican [[Arnold Schwarzenegger]]. By the end of 2003 the four largest states had Republican governors: California, Texas, New York and Florida.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Election of 2004===&lt;br /&gt;
The 2004 campaign began in late 2002, when Gore said he would not run again. [[Howard Dean]], former Governor of Vermont, an opponent of the war and a critic of the Democratic establishment, was the front-runner leading into the Democratic primaries. Dean had immense grassroots support, especially from the left wing of the party. Massachusetts Senator [[John Kerry]], a more centrist figure with heavy support from the DLC, was nominated because he was seen as more &amp;quot;electable&amp;quot; than Dean. Democrats moved to populist anti-business positions that denounced free trade and the [[NAFTA]] agreement. The party rhetoric attacked the Bush administration rather than propose alternative programs. &lt;br /&gt;
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In the end, Kerry lost both the popular vote (by 3 million out of over 120 million votes cast) and the [[Electoral College]]. Republicans also gained four seats in the Senate and three seats in the House of Representatives, and for the first time since 1952, the Democratic leader of the Senate lost re-election. In the end, there were 3,660 Democratic state legislators across the nation to the Republicans' 3,557. Democrats gained governorships in Louisiana, New Hampshire and Montana. However, they lost the governorship of Missouri and a legislative majority in Georgia, which had long been a Democratic stronghold.&lt;br /&gt;
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There were many reasons for the defeat. After the election most analysts concluded that Kerry was a poor campaigner.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Evan Thomas and Staff of Newsweek,''Election 2004: How Bush Won and What You Can Expect in the Future''(2005)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A group of Vietnam veterans opposed to Kerry called the &amp;quot;Swift Boat Veterans for Truth&amp;quot; undercut Kerry's use of his military past as a campaign strategy.  Kerry was unable to reconcile his initial support of the [[Iraq War]] with his opposition to the war in 2004, or manage the deep split in the Democratic Party between those who favored and opposed the war. Republicans ran thousands of television commercials to argue that Kerry had flip-flopped on Iraq.  When Kerry's home state of Massachusetts legalized same-sex marriage, the issue split liberal and conservative Democrats and independents (Kerry publicly stated throughout his campaign that he opposed same sex marriage, but favored civil unions).  Republicans exploited the same-sex marriage issue by promoting ballot initiatives in 11 states that brought conservatives to the polls in large numbers; all 11 initiatives passed. Some Democrats argued that flaws in vote-counting systems may also have played a role in Kerry's defeat in Ohio. Other factors include a healthy job market, a rising stock market, strong home sales, and low unemployment.&lt;br /&gt;
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After the 2004 election, prominent Democrats began to rethink the party's direction, and a variety of strategies for moving forward were voiced. Some Democrats proposed moving towards the right; others demanded that the party move more to the left and become a stronger opposition party. . Rethinking the party's position on gun control became a matter of discussion, brought up by [[Howard Dean]], [[Bill Richardson]], [[Brian Schweitzer]] and other Democrats who had won governorships in states where Second Amendment rights were important to many voters.&lt;br /&gt;
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===2005 - 2007===&lt;br /&gt;
These debates were reflected in the 2005 campaign for Chairman of the [[Democratic National Committee]], which [[Howard Dean]] won. He sought to move the Democratic strategy away from the establishment, and bolster support for the party's state organizations, even in Red states.&lt;br /&gt;
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When the 109th Congress convened in 2005, [[Harry Reid]], the new Senate Minority Leader, tried to convince the Democratic Senators to vote more as a bloc on important issues; he forced the Republicans to abandon their push for privatization of Social Security. In 2005, the Democrats retained their governorships in Virginia and New Jersey, electing [[Tim Kaine]] and [[Jon Corzine]], respectively. However, the party lost the mayoral race in New York City, a Democratic stronghold, for the fourth straight time.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2006, with scandals involving Republican lobbyist [[Jack Abramoff]], as well as GOP House leader [[Tom DeLay]], Ohio GOP governor [[Bob Taft]] and others, the Democrats used the slogan &amp;quot;Culture of corruption.&amp;quot; Negative public opinion on the war in Iraq, along with widespread dissatisfaction among conservatives over government spending, dragged President Bush's job approval ratings down to the lowest levels of his presidency.  To win control the Democrats had to add 15 seats in the House (they added 30), and 6 in the Senate (they added 6). &lt;br /&gt;
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The Democratic Party's electoral success has been attributed to running relatively conservative Democrats in close seats, such as the Senate races in Virginia, Pennsylvania and Montana. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Dewan Shaila and Anne E. Kornblut, &amp;quot;In Key House Races, Democrats Run to the Right,&amp;quot; ''New York Times,'' 2006-10-30; but compare Rick Perlstein, &amp;quot;Who deserves credit for the Democratic comeback?&amp;quot; ''The New Republic'' 2006-11-08]] at [https://ssl.tnr.com/p/docsub.mhtml?i=w061106&amp;amp;s=perlstein110806] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Exit polling suggested that corruption was a key issue for many voters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;CNN, &amp;quot;Corruption named as key issue by voters in exit polls,&amp;quot; 2006-11-08 at [http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/07/election.exitpolls/] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2006 Democrats gained a majority of governorships and made gains in many state legislatures. No Democratic incumbent was defeated in any major race. &lt;br /&gt;
===2007-2010===&lt;br /&gt;
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House Democrats chose Rep. [[Nancy Pelosi]] of California for Speaker, the first woman ever, but rejected her choice for House Majority Leader, electing Steny Hoyer instead of John Murtha. Senate Democrats promoted Harry Reid to Majority Leader.  Neither have been very effective.&lt;br /&gt;
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The presidential campaign of 2008 featured a remarkable duel between Obama--the first major black candidate, and [[Hillary Clinton]], the first major woman contender. Obama won with his charismatic oratory and his highly efficient fund-raising and strong organization in the caucus states, while Clinton went downscale to pick up big majorities among poor whites and Hispanics. The contest between Obama and GOP nominee [[John McCain]] showed Obama being the clear favourite, with the vast majority of polls (with the exception of early September) depicting Obama as the clear favourite. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Obama Administration]] got off to a fast start in 2009, especially in vigorous efforts to combat the [[Recession of 2008]] with heavy new stimulus spending, massive loans to banks, increased regulation, and deep intervention in the automobile industry.  All those policies were begun by Bush, and had failed to reverse the decline of the economy in late 2008.  Whether they will now succeed remains an open question, with the GOP now voting solidly against them and some conservatives like [[Rush Limbaugh]] hoping that the Democrats will fail badly and that the people will again turn to the Republican party.  The Democratic Party is feeling the sting from the opposition and many Democrats are beginning to question their own leadership.  Liberals are disenchanted with Obama's hawkish position on the [[Afghanistan War]]. The health care reform that consumed most of 2009 remains unsettled, as public opinion has turned against it. Environmentalists now seem resigned to the failure of a [[cap and trade]] program to reduce CO2 emissions.  Most of all the recession drags on.  The stimulus bill was passed quickly in Feb. 2009 over almost unanimous GOP opposition, but despite promises of &amp;quot;shovel ready&amp;quot; projects, most of the money has not been spent a year later and the economy remains in the doldrums.&lt;br /&gt;
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The elections in Nov. 2009 in New Jersey and Virginia went badly for the Democrats, as the GOP gained both governorships and many local races, not to mention the Democrats' fifth straight loss for the mayoralty of New York City.&lt;br /&gt;
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see [[2010 Midterm Elections]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Symbols==&lt;br /&gt;
The most common symbol for the party is the donkey, although the party itself never officially adopted this symbol.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/06/history_of_the.php History of the Democratic Donkey]. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Some historians suggest the jackass was born 1828 when Jackson was sometimes called a jackass by his opponents as a play on his name. A political cartoon depicting Jackson riding and directing a donkey (representing the Democratic Party) was published in 1837. A political cartoon by [[Thomas Nast]] in an 1870  revived the donkey as a symbol for the Democratic Party. Cartoonists ever since have followed Nast and used the donkey to represent the Democrats, and the elephant to represent the Republicans.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the early 20th century, the traditional symbol of the Democratic Party in many states was the rooster, as opposed to the Republican eagle. &lt;br /&gt;
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There is no official color, but since election night 2000 blue has become the identification color of the Democratic Party for maps, while the red has become the color of the Republicans.  Increasingly blue is used by Democrats for promotions (e.g BuyBlue, BlueFund) and by the party itself, which in 2006 unveiled the &amp;quot;Red to Blue Program&amp;quot; to support Democratic candidates running against Republican incumbents in the 2006 midterm election.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jefferson-Jackson Day]] annual fundraising celebrations are held by local chapters of the Democratic Party. &lt;br /&gt;
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The song &amp;quot;[[Happy Days Are Here Again]]&amp;quot; is the unofficial song of the Democratic Party. It was used prominently when Roosevelt was nominated for president at the 1932 Democratic National Convention and remains a sentimental favorite for Democrats today. During the [[Bill Clinton|Clinton]] era, the [[Fleetwood Mac]] song &amp;quot;Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow&amp;quot; became a popular song at Democratic events, reflecting the growing prominence of Baby Boomers in the party.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some critics refer to the group as the [[Democrat Party]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Democratic Presidents==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Andrew Jackson]] (1829-1837)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Martin Van Buren]] (1837-1841)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[James K. Polk]] (1845-1849)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Franklin Pierce]] (1853-1857)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[James Buchanan]] (1857-1861)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Grover Cleveland]] (1885-1889) (1893-1897)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Woodrow Wilson]] (1913-1921)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Franklin Roosevelt]] (1933-1945)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Harry S Truman]] (1945-1953)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John F. Kennedy]] (1961-1963)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Lyndon B. Johnson]] (1963-1969)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jimmy Carter]] (1977-1981)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Bill Clinton]] (1993-2001)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Barack Obama]] (2009 - Present)&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/Democrats|Articles about '''Democrats''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obamacare]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*  Brownstein, Ronald. ''The Second Civil War: How Extreme Partisanship Has Paralyzed Washington and Polarized America''(2007)  &lt;br /&gt;
* Crane, Michael. ''The Political Junkie Handbook: The Definitive Reference Books on Politics'' (2004) covers all the major issues explaining the parties' positions&lt;br /&gt;
*Sabato, Larry J. ''Divided States of America: The Slash and Burn Politics of the 2004 Presidential Election'' (2005).&lt;br /&gt;
*Sabato, Larry J. ed. ''The Sixth Year Itch: The Rise and Fall of the George W. Bush Presidency'' (1907), in-depth essays by scholars on key states in 2006&lt;br /&gt;
* Sabato, Larry J., and Howard R. Ernst  eds. ''Political Parties and Elections'' (2007), 540pp; an encyclopedia with 450 entries by scholars; focus is 1945 to present&lt;br /&gt;
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* Shafer, Byron and Richard Johnston. ''The End of Southern Exceptionalism'' (2006), uses statistical election data &amp;amp; polls to argue  GOP growth was primarily a response to economic change&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.democrats.org/ Democratic Party Official Site]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.demconvention.com/assets/downloads/2008-Democratic-Platform-final.pdf 2008 Democratic Platform (pdf download)]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://bertschlossberg.blogspot.com/2012/11/lawrence-patton-mcdonald-b_15.html A Forgotten Man: Congressman Larry McDonald]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;''See also [[Counterexamples to an Old Earth]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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the '''Age of the erth''' has bin a madder of intrest to huminz for millianz uv yerez the subgect is still debated today, perticulluree between [[young Earth creationisum|young-Earth scientists]], who believe that the erth is only 6 thoosend yeres old, and most scientific orginizashunz who beleve that erth is around 45 billion yeres old.[http://www.interacademies.net/10878/13901.aspx]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The scientific evidence [[young earth creationism|points to a young age of the earth and the universe]], and the biblical creation organisashin [[Creation Ministries International]] published n artical calld ''[http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth 101 evidences for a young age of the earth and the universe]'', which further argues for the yung age of the erth. &lt;br /&gt;
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Proponents of an old erth rely on the assumption that the [[Radiometric dating|rate of radioactive decay]], but the sientistz dont know tht god put the radiatun in the fosilz to trik the sientistz .&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0899536205000138#bib6&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Even so, such an error will not cause a calculation of the age of the Earth based on radiometric dating to be off by up to five [[order of magnitude|orders of magnitude]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Historical views ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For most of recorded history humans of many backgrounds, such as St. Barnabas and St. Irenæus,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Burnet, p. 259.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; viewed the age of the Earth to be around 6,000 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Burnet, p. 258.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Saint Cyril who came into Great Moravia (present day [[Slovakia]] and Moravia in [[Czech Republic]]) from [[Byzantine Empire]] in 863 as Christian missionary wrote in his poem Proglas&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
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|quote=The parchment version of Proglas in Cyrillic from 13th century was discovered in 1858 by Russian Slavic scholar Hilferding}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (dedicated to his works on translation of the four biblical Gospels to Slavonic language) following sentence that brings testimony about the perception of the age of the world that time: {{cquote|&lt;br /&gt;
  To the holy Gospels I am the Foreword&lt;br /&gt;
  for as it was promised by the prophets&lt;br /&gt;
  Christ comes to gather the nations&lt;br /&gt;
  for he sheds light on the world entire.&lt;br /&gt;
  That is what happened ''in our seventh millennium''}}&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
|title=Proglas, the foreword to the Old Church Slavonic translation of the four Gospels&lt;br /&gt;
|publisher=The Centre for Information on Literature, Slovakia&lt;br /&gt;
|url=http://www.litcentrum.sk/36106&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web&lt;br /&gt;
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|quote=Under ''the seventh millennium'' is meant here the age from the creation of the world. The figure was composed of the time elapsed by the birth of Christ, i.e. 5508 years, on top of which was added 863 years (date for the arrival of Constantine and Methodius to Moravia). The result was 6371 years, thus the seventh millennium.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In 1830, Dr. Hales published a list of 120 historical authorities from various cultures who had decided on an official [[date of creation]].  These ranged from 6984 B.C. to 3616 B.C.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Batten 2002 quotes from &amp;quot;Young’s Analytical Concordance of the Holy Bible&amp;quot;, 1879 8th Edition, 1939, which relates this, and reproduces the selection of the dates from Young.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Included in Hales' list is [[James Ussher]], who calculated the famous date of 4004 B.C. for creation.  Young Earth creationists still consider this date to be close to the actual date.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1778 George-Louis Lecrerc, Count of Buffon, proposed that the Earth was about 74,832 years old.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ingv&amp;quot;&amp;gt;INGV&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[James Hutton]], while not proposing a date, dismissed the Biblical account and claimed in 1785 that there was not evidence of a beginning at all.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ingv&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Charles Lyell]] supported Hutton's idea in 1830, in ''Principles of Geology''.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ingv&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1854 [[Hermann von Helmholtz]] estimated an age of between 20 and 40 million years.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ingv&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Around the same time [[Lord Kelvin]] put his mind to deriving an age, and came up with a range between 20 million years and 400 million years.  He later refined that down to between 20 million and 40 million years.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ingv&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  More recent discoveries of radioactivity and mantle convection explain why the assumptions Helmholtz and Kelvin made resulted in dates that are much lower than current uniformitarian estimates.&lt;br /&gt;
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The 1911 edition of the [[Encyclopedia Britannica]] discussed dates up to 500 million years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Encyclopædia Britannica, pp 650-651.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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By about 1930, J. H. Jeans was arguing for an age of the Earth of around two billion years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Universal History of the World, p.76.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Using circular logic -- assuming that decay rates remained constant despite necessarily changing physical characteristics as time approached the origin -- Old Earth proponents insist that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old based on an assumption of constancy in [[Potassium-argon dating|Potassium-argon (K:Ar) decay rates]] and other radiometric methods.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Peck, 2000, p.376.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[William R. Corliss]] is a cataloger of scientific [[Anomaly|anomalies]] (observations and facts that challenge prevailing scientific [[paradigm]]s) and has published many works on the subject.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;sf&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.science-frontiers.com/ Science Frontiers] (Corliss' web-site)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
He also wrote 13 books for the [[National Aeronautics and Space Administration]] (NASA), a dozen educational booklets for the [[Atomic Energy Commission]] (AEC), and a dozen articles for the [[National Science Foundation]] (NSF).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Corliss, 2002&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The science magazine ''[[New Scientist]]'' had an article which focused on the career of William Corliss.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Adrian Hope, ''Finding a Home for Stray Fact'', New Scientist, July 14, 1977, p. 83&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
''New Scientist'' wrote regarding Corliss's work: &amp;quot;All I can say to Corliss is carry on cataloging&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Quoted on the [http://www.science-frontiers.com/sourcebk.htm Science Frontiers web-site]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  [[Arthur C. Clarke]] described Corliss as &amp;quot;[[Charles Fort|Fort]]'s latter-day - and much more scientific - successor.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Clarke, Arthur C. (1990) ''Astounding Days: A Science Fictional Autobiography''. Gollancz. Page 110&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Corliss's work on geological anomalies catalogs scores of anomalies which challenge the [[old-earth]] [[paradigm]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.science-frontiers.com/sourcebk.htm#Geology Geological Catalogs] (Science Frontiers)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bibliography ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Burnet, Thomas, [http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/ste/ste36.htm The Sacred Theory of the Earth, chapter V], 1691.&lt;br /&gt;
* Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition (1911).  [http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/User:Tim_Starling On-line page facsimiles].&lt;br /&gt;
* Hammerton, J.A. (Ed.), &amp;quot;Universal History of the World&amp;quot; (8 volumes) The Educational Book Co., London, c1930.&lt;br /&gt;
* Batten, Don, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/417 Old-earth or young-earth belief: Which belief is the recent aberration?], ''Creation'' 24(1):24–27, December 2001.&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.ingv.it/~roma/SITOINGLESE/activities/geomagnetismo/analysistheory/historicalresearch/age.html The age of the Earth] (Istituto Nazionale di Geofisica e Vulcanologia (INGV)).&lt;br /&gt;
*Peck WH, Valley JW, Wilde SA, and Graham CM (2000) Ion microprobe Evidence for Pre-4.4 Ga Continental Crust and Low Temperature Water/Rock Interaction. ''Geol. Soc. Am. Abstr'', vol 32, no. 7.&lt;br /&gt;
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== External Links ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/age-of-the-earth Age of the earth] by [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/refuting-evolution-chapter-8-how-old-is-the-earth How old is the earth?] - ''Refuting evolution'' - Chapter 8 by Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]] at [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/young-age-of-the-earth-universe-qa Age of the Earth and Universe] by [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
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