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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* One partial explanation on why I am less &amp;quot;Putincentric&amp;quot; and less focused on the war in Ukraine than a certain Conservapedian */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Looks like you have Strike 2 now after personal attacks and an attempt at doxxing. [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&amp;amp;page=User%3AConwayIII] &lt;br /&gt;
If you wish to remain an editor in good standing and not convert this account into just another throwaway sockpuppet, I suggest you settle down and begin some productive editing when you return from your 2 day block. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:59, December 15, 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Would anybody like some more irony? There's plenty left if anyone can manage a second helping?&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''FYI, [[User_talk:Aschlafly#We_need_to_recruit_editors]]. Best wishes (and maybe DFTT), -Sanny [[User:CptSandra|CptSandra]] ([[User talk:CptSandra|talk]]) 09:36, February 23, 2022 (EST)''&lt;br /&gt;
:I realised a while ago that Andy, Rob and Ben don't actually want more editors here, despite occasional protestations to the contrary. At first, I think it was a kind of stubborn if-we-build-it-they-will-come that prevented any serious effort at promotion &amp;amp; recruitment, but as the years rolled by, they just grew to really, really love defining their own reality with as little pushback or compromise as possible. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 21:14, February 23, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
''I know nothing of Ben but I'm liking you already; Andy seems OK but I'm genuinely worried for RobS: invited to diagnose him, my cod-psychological pronouncement would be non-reactive psychosis, Hitlerian subtype.  Is it me or is he obsessed by Nazism?  Anyone that full of piss and vinegar must have serious problems off-line - I hope he feels able to reach out when the time comes. -S [[User:CptSandra|CptSandra]] ([[User talk:CptSandra|talk]]) 15:27, February 24, 2022 (EST) PS: He hasn't created [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CptSandra&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1] yet; if he does, might you second me in the debate?  No pressure: I have a fallback, but I'd prefer it to be you.  Could be fun, though I suspect he's not biting (in that sense, anyway).''&lt;br /&gt;
:At my current rate of spurious blocks, I advise you look for a more reliable presence in your corner. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:07, February 27, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Incivility==&lt;br /&gt;
Making personal comments about family members is little different than doxxing. Please refrain from that conduct in the future. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:40, April 22, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Have you tried trolling the Southfront discussion group yet? My two favorites are NATO fags like high heels and lipstick, and BanderiteLivesDontMatter.  I dont' think the username Bioweapons &amp;quot;R&amp;quot; Us is taken yet.  C'mon, show some cahoonies now. You can run with the big boys.  [https://southfront.org/did-russia-really-capture-canadian-general-in-mariupol/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:No need, man. I'm getting sufficient vitamin Z and practically OD-ing on fresh lunacy just from watching you smear your faeces all over the walls, windows &amp;amp; doors of Andy's formerly &amp;quot;Christian&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If he'll let you [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AMainpageright&amp;amp;diff=1860826&amp;amp;oldid=1860796 get away with posting this on MPR], you could probably forcibly teabag him in front of his wife, post a picture of the deed in place of the Conservapedia logo and still have him thank you for your service. Remarkable stuff. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:57, May 23, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[https://youtu.be/zGsiFyaFUbQ BREAKING: NATO Member Turkey to Invade Syria].  What's your take on this? Think Turkiye will acquiesce on Finland joining NATO in exchange for a little NATO help fighting Russia in Syria? How will the world react to another NATO [[war of aggression]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, May 23, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::My take is Erdogan would love to never hear about the plight of the Kurds again and also to be given free rein re. the PKK and YPG. He's ''probably'' reconciled to not getting that, despite his rhetoric, and is angling instead for a reboot of the F-35 deal, plus Patriots. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 15:04, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Patriots? He already bought the S-400 a few years ago (a superior weapon). That should have gave you a heads up there were problems within NATO and its wrong-headed &amp;quot;Russian Spring&amp;quot; designs back when Obama was approving Victoria Nuland, Samantha Power, Hillary Clinton, Jake Sullivan, and Antony Blinken's psychotic fantasies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::So, as NATO prepares aggressive actions against Transnistria and Lviv from Poland and Romania, Hungary declares a state of emergency. [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hungary-declares-wartime-state-emergency]  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Patriots. That's the current line out of Ankara, along with a hurt feelings claim they'd've never bought the S-400 if Patriots had been forthcoming when requested. No idea re. the truth of that, but it's an obvious way to frame it as a blunder by the Trump administration (2017) that needs fixing. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:12, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Wait. Stop. Think momentarily (however difficult). If NATO exists to defend the planet against Russia, and Turkey, NATO's largest manpower constituent group purchases Russian most modern advanced weapons from Russia to defend Turkey against Russia, what the hell do we need NATO for, then? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:37, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::So whom did Turkey purchase the S-400 system to defend against? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::&amp;lt;hint&amp;gt; To shoot down F-35 aircraft of NATO ally Greece. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:56, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::So again, why do we keep pouring $700 billion into the US Defense budget to keep the NATO house of cards alive?  And no, the &amp;quot;Russian bogeyman&amp;quot; that created the alliance no longer is a valid excuse or response. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/henry-kissinger-tells-davos-elite-to-give-in-to-russia Breaking: Kissinger tells WEF that NATO should throw in the towel]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:03, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Erdogan doing stupid stuff isn't the knockdown argument against NATO you're looking for. He got rebuffed for latest-gen kit from the US, felt slighted, and went and petulantly bought latest-gen kit from Russia. Works fine by Occam's razor and fits well with his increasingly weird &amp;amp; cranky nature. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::In other news, Kissinger reliably informed us there was zero chance of the Soviet Union collapsing. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:12, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Maybe Kissinger was talking about Soviet military power. The [[KGB]] went out of business in 1991, the [[GRU]] did not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Ok, so some may say Turkish S-400 are for shooting down Israeli aircraft, theoretically yes, in reality no, not unless Turkey was building its own nukes. While there is talk of a joint Saudi-Egypt-Turkish bomb to counter Iran, would Israel oppose that?  Anyway, we have no suspicions it's underway.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::So, again, when you read years ago that Turkey bought Russian weapons to shoot down NATO aircraft, you should have had enough brains to realize then the NATO alliance was dead. And Obama killed it (wittingly or unwittingly; I think wittingly). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:25, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::[https://findit.library.yale.edu/images_layout/thumbnails?parentoid=11781574 H. Kissinger being impressively wrong about stuff, Jan 14, 1988.] &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I've nowt to add re. motives for acquiring the S-400 and refer you back to my previous comments on Occam's razor and Erdogan himself. Feel free to keep spinning yourself another NATO-is-dead yarn, though. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:40, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::A &amp;quot;Kissinger was wrong argument&amp;quot; makes zero sense in 1988 and even less sense now. It's like saying &amp;quot;FDR was wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Lincoln was wrong for freeing the slaves&amp;quot;.  These men shaped the world you live in. That's why we can't disentangle ourselves from China today, cause of Kissinger. Whattaygona do? Dig up his grave after they bury him so you can spit on him?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Sheesh, why do I waste my time talking with idiots.... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:17, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::So somebody in 1988 says, &amp;quot;hey, it's probably not a good idea to establish trade ties with China,&amp;quot; where are they now? Can they help us get baby milk formula now cause Chinese trade destroyed our ability to produce it? or they just wanna debate how wrong Kissinger was? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:22, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::There's being wrong on points of detail; there's being wrong on some of the fundamentals; and then there's being dogmatically wrong about the entire direction of travel, despite an abundance of evidence to the contrary. It's a common problem with &amp;quot;realists&amp;quot; (cf. Mearsheimer) and seems to worsen as they age. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::The idea of a state as some kind of entity motivated by rational self-interest re. wealth &amp;amp; power works fine until all those epoch-changing moments when it suddenly doesn't, and it's usually pesky human hubris or delusion that makes such a spectacular mess of all the theorising. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:19, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Good. I'm glad you understood my point. This is not an academic debate. This is the school of realism. Now, why don't your sources report on the imminent collapse of (a) the Ukrainian military, and (b) the Ukrainian state?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Bottomline: (a) The pre-2014 borders will never exist again; (b) there will be no negotiations, as the ''NYT'', ''London Telegraph'', Zelensky, Kissinger and others are calling for NOW, unless the RF agrees to sit down at the table. Do you really think Biden, NATO, the West, the EU, or UN can force Russia to the table now, or anytime this summer? Russia will come to the table when its prepared to sit down, and the Anglo-American &amp;quot;rules based order&amp;quot; collapses at that point, short of nuclear war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:42, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::::My man, the ambition of the great Donbas &amp;quot;offensive&amp;quot; has been shrinking week by week, so much so that actually securing the remainder of Luhansk region would seem like something of a &amp;quot;victory&amp;quot;. It's not, of course. It's a so-called major power bursting a blood vessel to try &amp;amp; take a small city like Severodonetsk. That's not going to send a chill down anyone's spine. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:19, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So emotional==&lt;br /&gt;
You get so emotional about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in his underwear. I don't get it? It probably wasn't the first time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:39, October 31, 2022 (EDT&lt;br /&gt;
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== A quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your kind words.  The only reason I deleted your note on my talk page is that I have decided to be less forthcoming about my personal life off-wiki. It's better if people underestimate me. :) &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;...when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.&amp;quot; - Sun Tzu :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:25, November 15, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No worries. I agree it's best to avoid giving people that kind of ammunition. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:44, November 15, 2022 (EST&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't bother==&lt;br /&gt;
We already got screen shots of it. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:ConwayIII&amp;amp;curid=170256&amp;amp;diff=1910784&amp;amp;oldid=1910705]&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:16, December 11, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do not trivialize and make light humor out of topics like murder and rape ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Diff/1919825|This talk page addition of yours is inappropriate.]] Rather than remove your comment, I put it under a collapse. Do not insert such comments again, or you will be blocked. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(Mark 8:36)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 19:26, January 4, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==C'mon, kiddo==&lt;br /&gt;
Get your head out of the sand. We all get snookered by government misinformation once in awhile. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:12, April 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Welcome back==&lt;br /&gt;
I magine you have some 'splainin to do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:48, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:By my count, there's probably 70,000+ more dead Ukrainians than Russians since we last talked. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:50, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ukraine didn't have a rebellion with its own tanks going towards its capital. Russia did. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:52, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I called as I saw it with Surovikin in charge: a sensible fighting retreat to the 2014 LOC plus the land bridge. Might've even preserved some offensive potential for later this summer / autumn if it had worked, because Surovikin's not an idiot. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Instead, Putin reinstalled Gerasimov for a kamikaze tilt at Bakhmut that ultimately resulted in Leopards, Patriots, Storm Shadows (!) and F-16s (!!) for Ukraine and Prigozhin's recent thunder run at Moscow (!!!). As for what happens next, you'll know it's getting serious when the Ukrainians decide to drop the Kerch bridge. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:24, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::What about Poland and Belarus? Anything gonna happen there? The Russians already have sabotage teams in Latvia, apparently. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:27, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quint?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, you wrote: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;amp;diff=1962201&amp;amp;oldid=1962199 &amp;quot;Stalin was a sensitive man, eh? You're certifiable, Quint. ConwayIII (talk) 18:45, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&amp;quot; ] &lt;br /&gt;
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What does &amp;quot;Quint&amp;quot; refer to? I know the 1975 shark movie Jaws had a character named Quint. He was the captain of the shark hunting boat. &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me what you meant by Quint.  So far you have managed to stump me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:06, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mystery solved! [https://thedailyjaws.com/blog/certifiable-analysing-the-mental-health-of-quint-from-jaws Certifiable? Analysing the mental health of Quint from Jaws]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:09, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aye. That's the fella. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:22, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/mVDz8UlFYCPF/ A Russian soldier spits the truth.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:11, July 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://videon.img.ria.ru/Out/Flv/20230712/2023_12_07_x07x12x132946_mxb3duft.saq.mp4 Foreign mercenaries flee in terror]. These heroes went straight from the trench to the airport. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, July 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page &amp;quot;Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page: [[Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:40, August 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Update==&lt;br /&gt;
The war may be over before the F-16 and Abrams tank get combat tested against Russia's latest weapons, but for the record, the T-90 has withstood attack from the [[NLAW]]. [https://youtu.be/uYc2Ew2E0d0] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, August 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Given the special relationship between the UK and USA, I thought I would give you some glad tidings! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the special relationship between the UK and USA, I thought I would give you some glad tidings!&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you ready? Are you sitting down? &lt;br /&gt;
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Here it is: [[Essay: The USA will become bigger, better and stronger than ever before! Russia and China will not! USA! USA! USA!]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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And the next Republican president will strike a big, beautiful trade agreement with the UK! Then you can create the essay: [[Essay: The UK will become bigger, better and stronger than ever before! Russia and China will not! God save the queen!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And with Rishi Sunak's bigger emphasis on numeracy, the Brits will be better able to count all the riches! &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. I plan on visiting the UK. Maybe we will meet! &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S.S. Pay no attention to Irish-American Joe Biden who has not struck a big, beautiful trade agreement with the UK. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cheers, Ben. Happy to buy you a pint and some [[fish and chips]] if you ever make it over. If you've got sufficient time, you should definitely add [[Lindisfarne]] and Durham Cathedral to your itinerary and then hop over the Pennines and spend a few days in the [[Lake District]]. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:24, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am pretty pescatarian (vegetarian plus seafood), but I make exceptions such as the holidays. I don't eat chips anymore, but I have pretty good persuasion/negotiation skills and can usually get eating establishments to do a substitute. During these days of rampant food allergies and health-conscious consumers, most eating establishments will accommodate their customers for requests such as these. &lt;br /&gt;
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::How about Shepherd's Pie/Cottage Pie instead of fish and chips? :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Order whatever works best for you, man. If chips are the main issue, though, I can totally recommend a [https://junctionfisheries.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/fishbutty500.jpg fish butty] as an alternative. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:48, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No french fries or white bread for me. I gave up ultra-processed food and junk food. It's been great.  The only downside is that I buy a lot of my food at a lefty leaning food co-op. :)  I am not overly political so I am just joking. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Regardless, I do hope the USA and UK strike up a trade agreement. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Somewhat recently, I was booked several British authors for a leading podcast (In the top 1/2 percent of podcasts). Some of the British authors are notable (Bestselling authors, etc.). In addition, I was in the middle of negotiations with a British nonprofit to do some work for them and then the pandemic hit. Oh well, you can't land every deal. I do like doing business with Brits. They are unfailingly polite in most cases. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am guessing I can go to Britain and write some of it off as a business expense, but I will need to talk to an accountant. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:04, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Request for feedback on my essay  Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote the essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I give 4 major reasons why this happened. Can you think of any other major reasons? &lt;br /&gt;
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If so, please post them at: [[Talk:Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If I like them, I will add them to the essay. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:45, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I've seen everything now. User:Conservative recruiting Conway as a cheerleader for his Essays. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:57, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do refer to a certain individual as &amp;quot;Captain Cauldron&amp;quot;? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:49, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It would be too much to explain. It has to do military strategy and warfare. Stick with [[psychobabble]] where you excell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What's your obsession with me, anyway? I'm not that good looking. Besides, I want to be appreciated for my mind.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:54, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He used the phrase &amp;quot;Captain Cauldren&amp;quot; today without explaining the term. There is certainly nothing wrong with intellectual curiosity. &lt;br /&gt;
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::As far as psychology, although social sciences such as psychology and political science are less reliable than the physical sciences such as physics and chemistry, they are not totally useless. For example, my Psychology 101 professor was a cognitive psychologist and thanks to people like him airplane cockpits are designed to be more user-friendly. I also know of a school psychologist in a special need children charter school who has helped a ton of children overcome learning disabilities and other cognitive impairments. I am also friends with a person who lived in a former apartment building I lived in who has schizophrenia and he has been helped by the drugs developed by psychiatrists/psychologists and pharmaceutical companies, but he also said that God and his Christian faith played a big role in helping him too.  Every so often when I am in my old neighborhood, I say hello. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:06, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::He's only been using it for a year+, but you being so [[narcissistic]] and self-absorbed in your vengeance plots, it's not surprising you don't pay any attention to other human beings or what's happening in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
When someone posts about 20+ international relations essays on a website that another person disagrees with, it is not a vengeance plot. Please get a grip on yourself. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:21, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What are you talking about, this?&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:25, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Targeted sanctions.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Targetted Sanctions'', from a Moscow art exhibition.]]&lt;br /&gt;
:By my estimation, those two sentences have motivated you to type over 1,000,000 keystrokes (1 million bytes) in well over 400 hours trying to walk back a dumb trolling statement from 18 months ago. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:27, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::My essay writing on international relations started when I noticed someone was being a China/Russia cheerleader and being anti-American. And proclaiming the fiction of a multipolar world. &lt;br /&gt;
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::User: NishantXaivier may have pointed it out first though. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:36, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::There are no &amp;quot;cheerleaders&amp;quot; in a human tragedy; I'm sickened by your disgusting ramblings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:19, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just as I suspected. Your reading comprehension and analytical skills are low. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:37, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, besides User: NishantXavier, I think User: LT played a part too. He made me aware of the first quote below:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up.&amp;quot; - RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first.&amp;quot; -  RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, to be more precise, sometimes you are aware of something such as a person's China/Russia cheerleading and anti-Americanism, but it takes you a while before it gets under your skin. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:43, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::(ec) In April 2022, I was trying to warn that the [[Biden Junta]] was about to commit [[hari-kari]] with the whole of [[NATO]] and [[Western alliance|Western hegemony]], but you chose to go with the &amp;quot;Putin bad&amp;quot; theory - that you have been bottle fed since [[Obama]] failed to steal [[Sevastopol]] Naval Base from Putin in 2014. You haven't even connected the dots that &amp;quot;Putin bad&amp;quot; is cause Putin made Obama look like a fool. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:46, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, in a court of law, people giving testimony are told to &amp;quot;Give the whole truth and nothing but the truth&amp;quot;. GW Bush, Obama, and Biden can be bad men as far as US-Russia relations, while Putin can be bad too. You are creating a false dilemma and strawman argument.  Putin should have never launched his &amp;quot;special operation&amp;quot; in February of 2022. And I believe you might be able to [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_did_so_many_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_miserably_fail_concerning_their_multipolar_fantasy%3F#A_major_ego-deflating_bonanza_of_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_is_going_to_occur._It_will_be_a_popping_of_their_huge_egos_of_biblical_proportions.21 see that more clearly in 2030].  Of course, human denialism has no limits so I am not optimistic about this matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Interesting. But I'd be fool if I wasted my time reading your Nazi agitprop. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Deny that the Chinese ate gutter oil made from ingredients from processed sewage and lose all credibility. &lt;br /&gt;
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Consuming gutter oil can have negative consequences on people's health. According to experts, gutter oil is extremely toxic and riddled with carcinogens, like aflatoxin and benzopyrene. Consuming gutter oil can also lead to diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and developmental problems in children.[https://www.southerngreeninc.com/blog/what-is-happening-with-gutter-oil-in-china-and-how-common-is-the-use-of-gutter-oil#:~:text=Consuming%20it%20can%20have%20negative,and%20developmental%20problems%20in%20children.]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2015, Yeh Wen-hsiang, who was the chairman of a Taiwanese company, was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment and fined the equivalent of $1.6 million for selling 243 tonnes of gutter oil. And the mainland Chinese have begun to crack down on gutter oil sales more post 2010 too. However, &amp;quot;Food safety articles funded by PRC provincial science grants attribute continued difficulties in regulatory enforcement to the decentralized nature of the logistics chain, inadequate national infrastructure for disposal/recycling, and frequent innovations in visually and chemically disguising gutter oil.&amp;quot;[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil]  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:44, October 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, you wrote: &amp;quot;Is this summat to do with your weird (and as far as I can tell, entirely self-serving) theology re. once saved, always saved? Like, if Russia at some point successfully executes your Donbas cauldron fapdream, that somehow makes your bonkers March / April 2022 lies true? Asking on behalf of your sanity and possibly your soul. ConwayIII (talk) 19:34, September 4, 2023 (EDT)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What are you referring to as far as the months of March/April of 2022? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:30, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Be polite. Show some mercy. I don't think Conway really wants to go back and review his predictions from last winter about the Ukraine counteroffensive. I'm not asking him to do so, and you should show some respect, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:35, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::After calling the retreat from Kiev and Kherson and your boys' general ineptitude re. expeditionary warfare, I'm pretty happy with my record to date. The Sevastopol dry docks say hi, btw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Brief note on the withdrawal from Kiev: the advance on Kiev with 40,000 troops had primarily 2 purposes (40,000- men is not enough to take a city of 3 million; they would have needed a force of 300,000): (1) to force Kiev into the Istanbul negotiations; (2) to retrieve nuclear material that the Kiev regime had collected at the Gosomol Airport from the [[Chernobyl]] zone which could be used, or had already been assembled into, a [[dirty bomb]]. Shortly after the capture of the airport, the Russians began their withdrawal from the Kiev region.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here's why retrieval of the dirty bomb scenario is plausible: Americans always prioritize capture of landing fields and strips to transport in more men and material (for example the attack on Donetsk Airport in April 2014 or capture of Kandahar in Afghanistan in 2002); the Russians did not do this, signaling no intent to escalate the situation around Kiev. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:39, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Rob didn't handle the humiliating retreat from Kiev very well. As a result, he got ''very'' excited about Putin's switch to an offensive in the Donbas, which was supposed to capture the entirety of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. Rob fondly imagined this would prove Russia did, in fact, possess a fearsome war machine capable of expeditionary warfare at scale, and perhaps stop me laughing at him.&lt;br /&gt;
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If it had worked, the entire Ukrainian Joint Forces Operation (JFO (&amp;gt;100k troops)) would have been encircled in the Donbas, thanks to grand sweeping pincer movements from north &amp;amp; south. &lt;br /&gt;
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Russian TV got very excited, too, and the evening bulletins featured maps showing '''projections''' of what this would look like. &lt;br /&gt;
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Rob - idiot, madman or shameless Putin-fellating liar that he is - took these '''projections''' as actual facts on the ground and declared the Donbas cauldron closed and the JFO catastrophically defeated.&lt;br /&gt;
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One small (&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;tiny!&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;) problem: '''this never happened.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The pincers stalled both north &amp;amp; south and the JFO never came close to being encircled.&lt;br /&gt;
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This bonkers lie is still available for public consumption in various parts of his fan fiction about the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite months of teasing, he categorically refuses to correct it. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You appear to have read [[Christian apologetics]]. Your trilemma reminds of [[C.S. Lewis]]' &amp;quot;Lord, liar or lunatic&amp;quot; trilemma concerning Jesus Christ.[https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/lord-liar-or-lunatic/#:~:text=Lewis%20constructs%20the%20argument%20in,t%20sit%20easy%20with%20him.] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, concerning your above claim, what Conservapedia pages are still not corrected in your estimation? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:14, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Conway: one other tiny problem, the Russians never intended to take Kiev. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::RobS, is Conway's claim true about you not correcting some of your pages on the Donbas Couldron relative to something that never happened? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:18, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What do you understand about [[maneuver warfare]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:25, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::60,000 [[AFU]] troops have been destroyed in the [[Bradley Square]] cauldron in the past 90 days, if you want to call it that. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::'''Doogie Doo-Doo Alert!''' Keep your nose out of things you don't understand, especially if you have malicious motivations. I'm like Trump or Putin, I hit back twice as hard. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Classic cauldron warfare calls for total encirclement; in the [[Mariupol cauldron]], the city exists on a lake. With [[ISR]], mass troop movements today are almost impossible. So the Russians encircle on 3 sides in a [[kill zone]], and let [[NATO]] keep feeding in fresh meat for the meatgrinder. So NATO is learning some lessons, hopefully. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:32, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[2022 Special Military Operation in Ukraine - Donbas cauldron|This]] is the most gleefully bonkers. It's so unhinged it even features tactical maps from May 2022 which directly contradict the TV maps / projections from March and April 2022. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We'll see, if the Russians take [[Dnipro]] in addition to [[Kharkov]]. It may take 3 years, but it forms up as a classic cauldron. With NATO not having the resources, and the US &amp;amp; EU ready to back out, this scenario in the near future appears increasingly likely. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That map is no different than the map at the right, which Nazi cheerleaders still have people like you and User:Conservative believing is happening right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:40, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now here's the facts: NATO had 120,000 NATO trained troops, nearly half of AFU forces, on the Donbas line of contact since April 2021 showing aggressive intent against civilians and military. Russia responded in February 2022 under Article 51 of the UN Charter, allowing collective defense. Within three weeks, half of the AFU forces feared encirclement. Zelensky ordered a call up of forces and expansion of Ukraine's military. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:55, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Pay attention, man: if I say the Red Sox won in the World Series in 2022, my error is not corrected by them winning it in 2025. I'm confident a 6-year-old could grasp this. Feel free, though, to continue positioning yourself as lacking the cognitive firepower of a small child. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That map is simply a contemporaneous report of perceptions of the situation at that point in time. Zelensky would not have done the call up and expansion of the AFU if NATO &amp;amp; Ukrainian military intelligence did not fear developing encirclement in a cauldron.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Now, the perception and understanding of the limits of maneuver warfare was a later development by both NATO &amp;amp; Russian military analysts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::It is only in the past 3 months that a consensus has emerged, after a yearlong debate, that &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; are a thing of the past. IMO, that remains to be seen; after destruction and collapse of remaining AFU forces, in the absence of any diplomatic efforts, we are very likely to see some Russian &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; from the north. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:17, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I see. Bonkers lies are Good Things Requiring No Retraction as long you can point to sufficient Russian TV &amp;quot;vibes&amp;quot;? Good luck with that. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:54, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::The debate about &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; arose among analysts in both camps last year. Russian commentators were probably quicker to say it's a thing of the past (some claimed they were just making excuses), but it appears NATO commentators now are coming to the same realization, only not all yet. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::As I said, I'm still not convinced entirely; some might argue advancing enmasse after the total defeat of an enemy in the field is not really an &amp;quot;offensive&amp;quot;, but in the absence of a diplomatic settlement or formal surrender, it should be considered as such. And that may be where we're headed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:20, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::[https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&amp;amp;q=russian%20%27agriculture%27%20weapon&amp;amp;mid=FC1C0EC85155FABCB674FC1C0EC85155FABCB674&amp;amp;ajaxhist=0 Remote mine laying equipment] (the Russians call it 'Agriculture') has revolutionized warfare. It provides no escape for an advancing force, effectively creating a 'cauldron'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::The CRUX video above doesn't explain it very well. The Russians herd an advancing force into a kill zone surrounded on 3 sides, and then use remote mine laying ('Agriculture&amp;quot;) to sprout mines behind them, preventing retreating forces from exiting, and re-enforcements from entering, the kill zone. It is effectively a cauldron, without using troops to close the trap. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:41, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::All of which is fascinating, no doubt, but we're talking about a specific &amp;quot;big arrow offensive&amp;quot; which very obviously stalled shortly after your declaration of victory and which has since seen its northern pincer completely obliterated. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:45, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Give human beings some credit - they never stop coming up with ingenious new ways to kill each other.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:51, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to clarify, is there a retraction or retractions that still that still need to be made? If so, what page or pages need to be corrected and in what sections? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From [[2022 Special Military Operation in Ukraine - Donbas cauldron|this particular bit of his fan fiction]], the 2nd paragraph needs to be nuked from orbit. The March and April maps need to go, or have the captions completely rewritten. I can dig other mentions tomorrow. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:24, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What's wrong with the second paragraph? Doesn't it chronicle the lying Russian state media propaganda apparatus? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/ Here is the source.] Everything has to be verified from that source before any changes are made. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay. I have reread the original source link. There's nothing wrong with it. The AFU was indeed trapped in a cauldron, before any NATO equipment or mercenaries showed up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yep. Re-read it a second time. That piece, ''The Russian military intervention in the Ukraine – a macro view'' - March 09, 2022 stands for its historical relevance. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::This excerpt summarizes the view or the author at that moment in time, which by every indication was borne out by factual reality, and has not changed to this day (and was primary basis for NATO provoking the war):&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''&amp;quot;My fear is that the United States and Joe “Biden” have decided that the best thing for them is to have as many dead Ukrainians as possible.  And that is not a means to an end, it is the end: have as many Steppe N*ggers and Snow N*ggers kill each other. This is [[the West]]’s sole and entire plan for the Ukraine: (example from [https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-09-22/h_4498c85f00bb1fd41412cd70b0fcfe70 CNN])''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Turns out, the people in the CNN [[fake news]] report of the maternity hospital bombing attest NATO/Ukraine bombed the hospital, not Russia. That fact was not known to the author at the time he wrote the piece. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:41, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::OK, man: specific dates, specific locations. Your fan fiction claims the cauldron &amp;quot;closed&amp;quot; on March 14, 2022. '''Your boys on the northern pincer were still fighting for Izium on March 14.''' Since the southern pincer never really got going at all, your cauldron is '''over 100 miles short of being &amp;quot;closed&amp;quot;.''' &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Serious question: just how stupid does a man have to be to try &amp;amp; run with such obvious guff? [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:35, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::All I'm saying is the specific meaning of cauldron warfare, as understood in March 2022, was reported by that source. It's meaning or understanding has evolved since to include remote mine laying to complete encirclement, not just manpower. And the Donbas cauldron itself is ''still'' (my point) in development. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:48, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, man. This is '''your''' reporting and that makes '''you''' responsible for the accuracy of the sources '''you''' choose to include. If you rely on an obviously shite source, that makes you an obviously shite reporter. That's just how it works. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::(ec) At right is the source map, with text, of the situation on March 9, 2022 when [[Zelensky]] begged for mercy and requested the Istanbul peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:08, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::At that moment in time, March 9, 2022, half the AFU, 120,000 men, were effectively cut off - their Airforce had been destroyed, and their supply lines were under the control of Russian artillery and air power. Zelensky begged for mercy. An operational pause ensued. Negotiations in Brest and later Istanbul established humanitarian corridors and prisoner swaps. Putin began withdrawing from Kiev as a gesture of good faith based upon the Istanbul peace talks which revived the [[Minsk Accords]]. The US Congress voted $60 billion in aid, and by April 2 the peace talks fell through. Larger packages of NATO arms began arriving. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:21, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::What's your point, man? The map bears no relation to what actually happened. You could draw one yourself and claim your boys wrapped up an entirely successful SMO by the end of Feb. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:23, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The solid red lines show Russian advances in two weeks; the solid blue lines show AFU positions. The dotted red lines show areas under Russian air and artillery control. This is effectively a tactical cauldron. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:29, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Even taking your guff seriously for a moment, just for the sake of argument, you've got a ~60 mile hole in your &amp;quot;cauldron&amp;quot;. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 13:15, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::That was the situation on March 9 as the Kiev regime felt tactical encirclement. The first round of the Ankara peace talks occurred on March 10. Zelensky had requested the peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:50, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::The 60 m gap you allege was covered by Russian airpower. There was no Ukrainian airforce left. The AFU could not be supplied with fuel for retreat or fresh drinking water. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:57, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::120,000 troops - half the Ukraine army - were trapped in a tactical cauldron on March 9. Zelensky cried &amp;quot;uncle&amp;quot; and asked for peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Maybe there's some money in it for you eventually when the last of the Z-head deadenders get desperate enough for their very own vatnik QAnon. ''&amp;quot;Trust the plan!&amp;quot;'' you'll tell them. ''&amp;quot;Enjoy the show!&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Nah, I'm just keeping notes like A J P Taylor or Basil Henry Liddell Hart. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, September 16, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, &amp;quot;As for the men in power, they are so anxious to establish the myth of infallibility that they do their utmost to ignore truth.&amp;quot; - Boris Pasternak. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The article has about 1,275 page views. If you are right about &amp;quot;fan fiction&amp;quot; (RobSmith seems to be admitting it is &amp;quot;fan fiction&amp;quot;), do you think this is causing some readers to quickly click off the page and certainly not recommend the page to others? If so, why do you think RobSmith hasn't made the correction yet? I ask because people usually create content so other people read it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
'''Quick note to RobSmith:''' Are you saying that the &amp;quot;fog of war&amp;quot; is largely responsible for the discrepancy or that the Western media was either intentionally/unintentionally misreporting? Sometimes when it comes to historical events, there are conflicting reports and sometimes it is not due to malice.  So the careful historian has to carefully weigh the evidence. In addition, unfortunately in war &amp;quot;truth is often a casualty&amp;quot; and there is propaganda on both sides. &lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, given that I believe that the war of attrition could drag on for years, I am not going to be following this war super closely in terms of the battles.  In addition, my interest in geopolitics has waned and will likely continue to wane. In addition, I would rather be a contributor to various events rather than be largely a spectator to events. So I am not going to be a good referee when it comes to this content dispute.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:25, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Second note to RobSmith:''' Your source appears to be merely some blog run by some unknown blogger. Here is an excerpt from your blogger from the source you cited: &amp;quot;My fear is that the United States and Joe “Biden” have decided that the best thing for them is to have as many dead Ukrainians as possible.  And that is not a means to an end, it is the end: have as many Steppe Niggers and Snow Niggers kill each other.&amp;quot;[https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/]  This certainly does not appear to be a reliable source. &lt;br /&gt;
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Admittedly, I haven't investigated the issue of this battle, but I can't say that I am sympathetic to your position on this matter. At this point, I would lean towards User: ConwayIII's position. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:35, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Note User:Conservative: I don't read your trolling edits. You take 6 paragraphs to say something that could be said in 6 sentences, or 6 words. And I'm not interested in your &amp;quot;BTW&amp;quot; stories from your childhood. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Reply that the author of neocon Essays favor Ukraine and/or Nazis in the war in Ukraine ===&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I am not a fan of Ukraine or Russia as I believe they are both corrupt and authoritarian regimes. The war is causing casualties and economic damage to both countries which is very bad since both Russia and Ukraine have a demographic crisis and this war is making their demographic crises worse. The war is also causing economic damage to Europe and USA taxpayers. And it is restricting the food supply to the world. I hope the war ends soon, but it appears as if it could go on for years.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
ConwayIII, do you believe that a Chinese economic crisis would make it harder for Russia to fight the war at some point since Russia sells oil and gas to China? If so, when do you think this will happen? &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, war spending can be very inflationary. [https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-russia-economy-inflation-business-ukraine-war-ruble-interest-rates-2023-9 Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan], Business Insider, 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Here's one of your ideological kinsmen: [https://youtu.be/ffnaGUIXT4s Pyramid of Far-right Radicalization leads to DEMOCRAT-BACKED AMERICAN NEO-NAZIS IN UKRAINE]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::At the end of August, I realized that my interest in international relations would soon wane to a certain degree. With the Chinese economy beginning to have significant problems and likely declining a lot more, that certainly could mitigate the influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and their newfound ally the Kremlin. &lt;br /&gt;
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::At the same time, in terms of its effect on Christendom, this could be a bonanza for the Chinese Christian population. Xi JingPing, whose administration is persecuting Christians, might lose power. We might even see the end of the CCP in the 22nd century or early 23rd century should Jesus tarry. Of course, things are hard to predict when it comes to politics in China. For example, if Xi JingPing is replaced, it could be by someone even worse who persecutes Christians even more. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, if Putin loses power sooner or Kremlin influence wanes in Russia, since the Russian state does get involved in religious matters and favors the Russian Orthodox Church, maybe there will be more competition within the Christian church sphere which could cause Russian churches to up their game so Russia's moribund church attendance figures might see a rise. &lt;br /&gt;
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::So this is certainly something to keep in prayer. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As for the likelihood of a major economic crisis, China probably has more than enough stashed in its sovereign wealth fund to stave off any immediate disaster. The trick is to intervene in ways that don't further destabilise an increasingly dysfunctional economy that's staring down the barrel of some ugly demographic trends. I don't think they've figured that out yet and they're likely reluctant to pull the trigger too hastily.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Perhaps that means they end up moving too late, but in the short to medium term, my money's on cushioned slowdown rather than epic crash. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
An international relations analyst says that if Russia's Siberian oil production goes down, it would freeze up means of production and cause significant damage to Russia's Siberian oil production. I wonder if that might occur if Russian oil sales to China goes down? &lt;br /&gt;
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:ConwayIII, you wrote: &amp;quot;my money's on cushioned slowdown rather than epic crash.&amp;quot;.  While this may happen, I think there are signs that the slowdown/decline will happen faster than you think. See: [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_rising_rule_of_communist_idiocracy_in_China#China_has_likely_peaked_arguments China has peaked arguments]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:36, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The biggest risk China faces is probably Xi's determination to install himself as Dear Leader for life. [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/power-causes-brain-damage/528711/ Does bad things to a man's brain.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:42, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Xi JingPin's love of communism is very bad and will make things worse. On the other hand, a lot of what is going to happen in China is the result of prior bad decisions and they will be impossible to reverse. But there are a lot of Christians in China right now and the fervent Christian Chinese population will likely increase with time for a significant period of time. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Here is the dilemma. Communism causes problems that necessitate reforms. But reforms undermine communism. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Marxism is a Western idea with not very long roots in the light of China's very long history. Hopefully, it will fall in my lifetime in China.  The Soviet Union eventually collapsed suddenly. So you never know. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:53, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A victim of my own campaign's success? If true, it is ironic. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayII, I do believe in religious freedom and noticed that homosexual activists were restricting religious freedom. So I did some modern-day muckraking relating to the issue of homosexuality that drove a lot of traffic to Conservapedia. In addition, I wanted to drive traffic to Conservapedia in order to gain an audience to my future articles on atheism. &lt;br /&gt;
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I discovered so much muck in my muckraking that I think it had an influence on Conservapedians and the owner of the website. And now Putin's and Xi's anti-homosexuality views are seen as a license for them to break God's other commandments - which of course, it is not. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Never mind Conway, he's just bragging and boasting - it's a symptom of [[narcissistic personality disorder]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, please email at conservativeconservapediaATgmailDOTcom  &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:23, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Reply to my newest email please. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:45, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am among the 90+% of sane Americans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;less than 10% of Americans, a bigger number of the Republican Party, but less than 10% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin&amp;quot;. - February 2023[https://www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-the-republicans-lifting-up-putin-are-the-same-ones-trying-to-destroy-democracy]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hurray for sanity! Long live sanity! &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Essay: Why has the West been so successful?|Why has the West been so successful?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Go West! &lt;br /&gt;
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West is best! East is least! (High school chant). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:07, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Re: Kent &amp;quot;Boneface&amp;quot; McClennan narrative might be total hype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/09/13/us-neo-nazi-says-he-fought-in-ukraine-records-place-him-in-florida/ US neo-Nazi says He Fought in Ukraine, Records Place Him in Florida] and [https://www.vice.com/en/article/epv5ak/inside-the-neo-nazi-trial-of-boneface-the-man-they-think-made-them-look-bad Inside the Neo-Nazi Trial of 'Boneface', the Man They Think Made Them Look Bad] &lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps some due diligence is in order. As per my previous comments to you, I will not be doing extensive fact-checking in matters such as these. &lt;br /&gt;
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I put this information at: [[Talk:Boneface McClellan]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I sent you a second email about Steve Bannon and why I am not a big fan of his. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Go fix it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:56, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The fixing of the [[Bill Browder]] article shows me that the return on investment (ROI) in terms of fixing obvious mistakes in your articles is not worth it.  And the &amp;quot;Captain Couldron&amp;quot; situation possibly echoes this situation. &lt;br /&gt;
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::If you don't care that some readers will quickly off your articles due to factual mistakes (That are due to a lack of fact-checking) and a lack of objectivity, then I guess you will have to lie in that squalid bed. I am not going to drag you across the finish line of quality article production. And frankly, I cannot say that I am upset if your China/Russia cheerleading articles receive low traffic. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:07, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was a fan of Reagan. He is the person who caused me to lean to the political right. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:14, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Steve Bannon, addendum ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a second email about Steve Bannon and why I am not a big fan of his.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, he might be facing criminal charges related to fraud and some border wall project. But given recent events in terms of the USA's legal system as far as Democrat &amp;quot;Banana Republic&amp;quot; antics, I am going to wait for the dust to settle before I come to any conclusion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Our recent email exchange  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We recently had an email exchange. &lt;br /&gt;
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I think this essay will help clarify an issue you wrote about: [[Essay: Jesus compared to Niccolò Machiavelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect Conservapedia's resident fanboy of Niccolò Machiavelli will not like this article, but perhaps it will be a splash of cold water to his conscience and awaken his moral sensibilities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:22, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please maintain basic civility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, I know, you think RobSmith doesn't hold a high intellectual capacity. Unless you're seeking a lengthy block, do not throw around 7th-grade level insults, especially seeing that no one unjustly provoked you to begin with. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 14:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, do not remove collapse templates that I place on your comments; if you repeatedly edit-war in reverting my installation, this will similarly be grounds for the imposition of a semi-lengthy block on your account, and you will thereby have to wait an unfortunately long duration of time before responding in those precious discussion pages where you just love to insert the expected amateurish fourth-rate trolling. Good day. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 14:43, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: ConwayIII, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy and DavidB4, &lt;br /&gt;
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Less than a month ago, we had an &amp;quot;Articles for Deletion&amp;quot; vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted. &lt;br /&gt;
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With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:33, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine]] please vote in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''This is a time wasting revote.''' There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. [[User: RobSmith]] lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vote on this matter would be very helpful.  Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later. Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:12, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I saw your vote in the AfD vote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed your vote in the AfD vote. Good show! &lt;br /&gt;
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This calls for some celebratory music! [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhL9X0noKimjvGEmJ0XGkBn8xv3aF8lwq Tremaine Hawkins - Gospel Funk Nation!] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:56, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ_m7Yu3H3A Cheers.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 14:18, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Word salads are nice, but please restrain the incivility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You're lucky this is a warning you haven't already received the lengthy block, man. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 19:42, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Go away, man. No-one here cares what you think and Andy will never make you  an admin. I'm happy to take you through the various bits where you completely f_____ it if you'd like to try again with a fresh account &amp;amp; IP address. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:27, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sure, after this reply, I'll go away for now. But remember: you remain on Conservapedia today because two years ago, I reversed Conservative's decision to permanently kick you out. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 21:03, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Please comment on my motion==&lt;br /&gt;
Please comment in support of my motion at: [[Conservapedia:User complaints#Endorsements]]. Thank you, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 20:35, October 9, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please email me ==&lt;br /&gt;
Please email me at maygodbless135 AT gmail DOT com at your earliest convenience. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 23:44, October 9, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's bizarre ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote this in reply: Shortly after waking up today, I thought about how weird it is for RobSmth to love Russia. It's like a guy falling in love with a 300 pound woman. If I were to pick a country outside the USA to very much like/love, I would pick Singapore. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Singapore's safety and low crime rate make it an attractive destination for expats, as it provides peace of mind and security for those living and working in the city-state. The country is considered one of the safest places in Asia, and it is a great place for expats to raise families.&amp;quot; [https://www.georgiacaney.com/post/pros-and-cons-of-living-in-singapore-as-an-expat-in-2023#:~:text=Singapore's%20safety%20and%20low%20crime,for%20expats%20to%20raise%20families.]&lt;br /&gt;
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There is far less social dysfunction in Singapore than in Russia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:43, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wow. &amp;quot;provides peace of mind and security&amp;quot;. You'd think our resident geopolitical expert of the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Geopolitics|Haushopher School of Realism]] and [[Holocaust revisionism]] would know something about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_in_Singapore Caning in Singapore]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:00, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Singapore has low crime and a highly educated population. A far higher percentage of Russian men die of alcoholism or other self-destructive behaviors in Russia than are materially harmed by caning in Singapore. &amp;quot;In 2021, life expectancy at birth for women in Russia was about 74.77 years, while life expectancy at birth for men was about 64.21 years on average.&amp;quot;[https://www.statista.com/statistics/971100/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-russia-by-gender/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20life%20expectancy%20at,about%2064.21%20years%20on%20average.] In 2020, life expectancy in Singapore was 83.74 years (2020).[https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/life-expectancy-of-singapore-population-rose-in-last-decade-but-fell-during-covid-19\] Also, &amp;quot;The average life expectancy of males in Singapore is 80.7 years. The life expectancy at birth for males increased from 70.1 years in 1981 to 80.7 years in 2022, an increase of 15.1%. When we compare male life expectancy with a decade back (79.8 years in 2012), it increased by 0.9 years.&amp;quot;[https://smartwealth.sg/life-expectancy/#:~:text=2)%20The%20average%20life%20expectancy%20of%20males%20in%20Singapore%20is%2080.7%20years&amp;amp;text=The%20life%20expectancy%20at%20birth%20for%20males%20increased%20from%2070.1,it%20increased%20by%200.9%20years.]&lt;br /&gt;
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::The national life expectancy numbers don't lie and it's impossible for you to sweep Russian society dysfunction under the rug. &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - [[John Adams]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, consider this: [https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-police-ukraine/2023/10/01/id/1136569/ Russia Facing 'Critical' Shortage of Police]: &amp;quot;Corruption is also taking a toll. A police major from the city of Tomsk said that officers are &amp;quot;beating confessions out of people, inflating arrest quotas. We're seeing this all the time. It's only going to get worse. There will be falsification of evidence, targeted beatings. There just isn't going to be time to investigate anything properly.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And, [https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gun-crime-surge-police-kursk-ukraine-border-1761774 Russia Suffers Gun Crime Explosion as Police Say Cases Have Gone Up by 600%], November 2022.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's very clear that Singapore is a much better country to live in than Russia, but go ahead and continue to embrace your 300 pound woman like country. A polka song comes to mind: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez_hQdWN4Rg Oh, I don't want her you can have her. She's too fat for me]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:42, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::See how Americanized and Westernized Russia has become in such a short period of time: &amp;quot;It's only going to get worse. There will be falsification of evidence, targeted beatings. There just isn't going to be time to investigate anything properly.&amp;quot; [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:19, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::'''ConwayIII, I hope you are a polka fan. Behold, my new satirical essay has been unveiled:''' [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:29, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It's time Conservapedia's articles on Russia and Putin have much greater objectivity. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:46, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Let's bring a balanced perspective to [https://www.dw.com/en/the-invisible-scars-left-by-strikes-of-the-cane/a-18298970 your beloved Singapore]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:24, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::[https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/11lvgdl/russian_brandkhokhloma_kokoshnik_soviet_carpet/?rdt=42809 Big Mother Russia (in a fetching range of tracksuits!)] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:05, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for sharing that. The essay has a new title in case you didn't notice: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Should I write another essay? Like [[Essay: Why Russian gangsters and their propagandists need a sound caning. Singapore is much better country than Russia!]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:16, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sarah Ashton-Cirillo.PNG|right}300px|thumb|'''&amp;quot;Give me liberty or give me death!&amp;quot;''' U.S./NATO spokeswoman thing [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Have at it, man. They need some kind of sense beating into them. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:38, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If Jesus should tarry, imagine what Russia will look like in 2030 or 2035 when I write about Russia again. Mother Russia will be a 400 pound woman instead of merely being a 300 pound woman. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:48, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Unlike the West and America, at least she'll be a woman. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:08, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::ConwayIII, did you notice that RobSmith is trying to shift the focus away from a Singapore vs. Russia comparison? It's a clear sign of resignation and defeat. As much as I am reluctant to do it, I am going to have to declare victory. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::And I still predict that an aging and corrupt Mother Russia will be 400 pounds in 2030 or by 2035. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:18, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::As I said, at least she'll be a real female, unlike those things you are [[grooming]] in [[the West]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:44, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRvbrzIyV9E 'The Miracle Of Asia' (Part 1) - Singapore Documentary]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxNTUuUftA 'The Miracle Of Asia' (Part 2) - Singapore Documentary]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi6r3hZe5Tg City of the Future: Singapore – Full Episode | National Geographic]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2js1oxyJA The Secret of the Singapore Miracle: How to Turn a Third World Country into an Ideal State]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKuNk5ZRzLg The Economic Powerhouse of Singapore]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSOgcpRbrCo Why Singapore is One of the World's Richest Countries]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqjAWhTpuA Is Singapore a safe country? I asked foreigners.]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Singapur.jpg|thumbnail|400px|center|Unlike Russia, Singapore is the 4rth richest country in the world.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, I trust this further clarifies a very clear issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:56, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;|||Ez 16:49}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;To take a look at how and where such a minimal standard of welfare design has been implemented successfully, one need only look at the city-state of Singapore. The Singapore welfare system is considered one of the most successful by first-world standards. [https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?locations=SG-US-DE-NL-JP-FR-AU-KR&amp;amp;year_high_desc=true World Bank data] shows that Singapore’s government health expenditure in 2015 is only 4.3 percent of GDP, a small fraction in comparison to other first-world countries—16.9 percent in the US; 11 percent in France; 9.9 percent in the UK; 10.9 percent in Japan, and 7.1 percent in Korea—while achieving comparatively equal or better health outcomes of low infant mortality and higher life expectancies. While most of Europe, Scandinavia, and North America spend 30-40 percent of GDP on social welfare programs, Singapore spends less than half as much while maintaining similar levels of economic growth and a society relatively free of social problems.&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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By compelling Singaporeans to save, welfare in Singapore has traditionally been internalized first to the individual and the family/grassroots level. This forms the crux of the government’s “Many Helping Hands” social policy where the role of the family and immediate community in welfare provision is emphasized over government-funded programs. Such a form of privatized charity is neither new nor unique, as a wealth of research shows how mutual aid societies predated modern welfare states in the 20th-century United States and the 19th-century United Kingdom.[https://fee.org/articles/what-america-could-learn-from-singapores-social-welfare-system/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Singapore has the 2nd lowest infant mortality rate in the world - so it is much better than Russia in this respect as Russia has about a 400% higher infant mortality rate.[https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/]&lt;br /&gt;
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I trust this further clarifies a very, very clear matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:31, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You heard it here: the reasoning of a [https://www.sophie-sticatedmom.com/2019/07/29/manchild/ man-child]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:36, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::ConwayIII, I believe I found another reason why RobSmith is so enamored of a 300 pound Mother Russia. He needs to raise his standards. Singaporeans can help him do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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::“The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it.” - Michelangelo[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:44, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The more you talk, the more you sound like [[Bernie Sanders]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Please vote in this AFD vote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote the essay: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Please vote in this AfD vote: [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay: Why A Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:13, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for you recent feedback and some information you might be interested in. Also, Conservapedia's Dunning-Kruger effect article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your recent feedback concerning my writing which I requested.  I appreciated your positive feedback and your pointer on how I could improve too. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I added some additional content to the [[Dunning-Kruger effect]] article. It's an interesting topic and it shows the importance of having self-awareness and why it's important to improve both your weaknesses and your strengths. Top performers such as Olympic athletes improve their strengths and weaknesses which increases their overall performance.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, I know you are interested in politics. I just added this information to the essay  at [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Question:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; Did you know that is very doable to be a better forecaster in terms of politics, economics and other future events? There is a great book on this matter by the political science writer and political science professor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_E._Tetlock Philip E. Tetlock] entitled ''[https://www.amazon.com/Superforecasting-Science-Prediction-Philip-Tetlock/dp/0804136718/ref=sr_1_1?crid=RXUQRMJ8BOFV&amp;amp;keywords=Philip+Tetlock&amp;amp;qid=1697558700&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;sprefix=philip+tetlock+%2Cstripbooks%2C101&amp;amp;sr=1-1 Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction]'' which has some fascinating information based on the reviews and videos I watched concerning this matter. And the book has received a lot of positive reviews by various people involved in forecasting.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/how-to-predict-the-future/588040/ The Peculiar Blindness of Experts] - Credentialed authorities are comically bad at predicting the future. But reliable forecasting is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnj61KSOhM Professor Philip Tetlock on His Groundbreaking Research About 'Expert Judgment'] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73A-HB-08M Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?] by Philip Tetlock - video&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Political-Judgment-Good-Know/dp/0691128715/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1256588850&amp;amp;sr=8-1 Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?] by Philip E. Tetlock, Princeton University Press; New Ed edition (August 20, 2006)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:30, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Please note:''' I just created the essay: [[Essay: An ego-deflating bonanza of self-declared Russia experts and international relations experts is going to occur. It will be a popping of their huge egos of biblical proportions!]]. It features a catchy tune I created! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:17, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No worries, man. Happy to help. Here's to a reality-based media diet and dealing with the world as is. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:13, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I recently came across this: [https://ground.news/ Ground news] - 50,000 sources. See: [https://www.youtube.com/@ground_news/videos Ground News - YouTube].  Rates stories by right/left leaning as far as coverage. &lt;br /&gt;
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But I realize there are more dimensions to news than merely right/left. For example, East/West, national, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also come across [https://voxday.net/2016/12/26/the-iq-delta/ this information] written by someone with an IQ of 150+ regarding VHIQ (Very high IQ people) and UHIQ (Ultra high IQ people) which I alluded to in an email:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''1.''' VHIQ inclines towards binary either/or thinking and taking sides. UHIQ inclines towards probabilistic thinking and balancing between contradictory possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''2.''' VHIQ seeks understanding towards application or justification, UHIQ seeks understanding towards holistic understanding.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''3.''' VHIQ refines the original thought of others, UHIQ synthesizes multiple original thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''4.''' VHIQ rationalizes logical conclusions, UHIQ accepts logical conclusions. This is ironic because VHIQ considers itself to be highly logical, UHIQ considers itself to be investigative.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I realize that there is more to understanding things than just IQ such as knowledge, wisdom, moral development, etc. looking at things intelligently does apply to understanding politics. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in WWII you had the Nazis vs. Soviets. In this conflict, you had two bad parties against each other so #1 above would apply. Given that I think that both Ukraine/Russia are both corrupt/authoritarian to varying degrees (which is not surprising given their shared cultural/historical past), I can't say that I am a partisan on this issue. I would just like the war in Ukraine to end as quickly and peacefully as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe someday I will take an IQ test. :) &lt;br /&gt;
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But first, I am working on improving the below factors:&lt;br /&gt;
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What is IQ or intelligence?&lt;br /&gt;
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When we use the term intelligence, we usually refer to academic or cognitive intelligence. Cognitive ability is defined as the mental capacity to do the following: &lt;br /&gt;
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*Storing and retrieving information&lt;br /&gt;
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*Learning from experience[https://irisreading.com/is-memory-a-sign-of-intelligence-quick-facts/#:~:text=Is%20good%20memory%20an%20indicator,necessarily%20correlated%20with%20high%20intelligence.]&lt;br /&gt;
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I am in the midst of covering some material on memory improvement, creativity, problem solving, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:45, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The smartest people I've come across generally display the following:&lt;br /&gt;
:#Natural curiosity&lt;br /&gt;
:#Discernment re. quality of sources / inputs&lt;br /&gt;
:#Strong analytic processes&lt;br /&gt;
:#A willingness to accept conclusions thus derived, even when it conflicts with their priors&lt;br /&gt;
:#The ability to accept complexity and nuance, even when it renders their conclusions more vague / less useful than they were hoping&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:52, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
=== Russian defector reveals that a 'majority' of people inside the Kremlin are unhappy with the war in Ukraine ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-26/russia-defector-reveals-many-kremlin-members-unhappy-war-730/102526452 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], Australian Broadcasting Corporation, June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeZRN6YrN0 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], ABC News video, July 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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The Moscow Kremlin is a fortified complex in the center of Moscow. The Moscow Kremlin now serves as the official residence of the Russian president and as a museum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Attention:&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;'''  The unhappiness situation is dire in Russia. I suggest you approach the Kremlin about putting bouncy castles in Red Square. &lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HnlKngrb4 Vlad and Niki play in Inflatable Castle and other funny challenges for kids]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:57, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Happily, though, Putin is every bit as mortal as the rest of us and growing older and older each day. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:08, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But who is the replacement? He might be worse. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:14, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The uncertainty re. what happens next is likely one of the key reasons why the Western alliance has adopted a strategy of slowly boiling the frog. A sudden, chaotic collapse could get very ugly, very quickly. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:04, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please read this essay, ConwayIII ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See: [[Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]] —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 08:42, October 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I made updates to my essay at: Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Russia map flag-overlay (1).png|thumbnail|600px|center|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Please read:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope it's a sunny day where you are. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, October 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Avdiivka cauldron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Avdiivka cauldron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Starting to look like a textbook cauldron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
War is not like Hollywood, where everything gets resolved in 60 minutes or after the next commercial break. The Avdiiivka cauldron is somewhat reminiscent of the good 'ol days of [[Stalingrad]]. Pray for any Nazis captured alive who have served there anytime between 2014 and now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:57, October 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, man. Because Stalingrad was such a famously quick &amp;amp; rousing victory for the invading army and one that - even more famously - totally turned the tide of war in their favour.&lt;br /&gt;
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:In other news, given your boys have already lost about a brigade's worth of kit just trying to get the first lot of those red arrows going, I'm more than happy for them to keep tilting at this particular windmill. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:49, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You need [https://youtu.be/eREr43Xl7ck to see HistoryLegends take on it]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:56, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Update: [https://youtu.be/3MsVOeUXWBY Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Battlefield Ukraine The Cauldron of the Apocalypse]. 12:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It's my sad duty to inform you that you have the research skills and information diet of a Z-addled dung beetle, my man. I salute your determination n' all, but no matter how big it gets, it's still just a great big ball of guff you're rolling round the wiki.  [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I thought &amp;quot;Cauldron of the Apocalypse&amp;quot; might be a bit much, but when the [[Avdiivka meatgrinder]] does fall, the AFU, [[Zelensky]] regime, [[Kharkiv]] and Odessa won't be far behind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:41, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You're developing a positively Millerite penchant for Great Disappointments. At least it gives me [https://www.yardgallery.com/father-ted-series-1-episode-1-reality-bb0054-c some ideas for your Christmas present] this year. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:02, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Ok, I'll give up one of my most reliable sources: [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-102423-avdeevka-victories SITREP 10/24/23: Avdeevka Victories Confirmed]. 02:39, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Russian propaganda already [https://youtu.be/iFl73rMR-wQ preparing the population for the need to retake Odessa.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::So which will we see first?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::a) [[Teheran]] get [[nuke]]d?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::b) Helicopters taking off from the roof of the US embassy in [[Kyiv]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Update from ''Ukrayinska Pravda'' (a Nazi propaganda organ): ''[https://news.yahoo.com/kharkiv-oblast-announce-forced-evacuation-183540252.html Kharkiv Oblast to announce forced evacuation of families with children]'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:00, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Update: Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Battlefield Ukraine [https://youtu.be/XCVf2PBH0Cw Russian Cauldron of Doom Tightens]. Report: 8,000 encircled now, Zelensky orders Zaluzhnyi to hold it at all costs, ready to dump in another 30,000 on a suicide mission. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:35, October 26, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Clearer minds would note that the SMO has now devolved to the point where its enthusiasts are giddily anticipating full control (!) over the Avdiivka coke plant's slag heap. If you want an accurate fall-from-greatness vibe, just picture Mike Tyson when he was so washed-up he had to earn his crust staging sparring exhibitions in Vegas hotel lobbies while fat tourists shuffled past, uncaring. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 22:41, October 26, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::[[Patrick Lancaster]] under fire from [[Avdiivka]], June 15, 2022. [https://youtu.be/Nl5WWmKgCaQ Journalists Come Under Ukraine Artillery Fire In Donetsk Suburb]. Civilian residents have been subjected to this for 9 1/2 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:55, October 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::[https://t.me/geopolitics_live/8563 &amp;quot;The town is a strategic point for the whole Donbass front...When it falls, the Donbass front is going to shatter like glass...Once Avdeevka is out of the way, Russia will be able to move in any direction that they want for as far as they want...It’s one of the strongest positions that’s ever been built in this war...Once it’s taken, the Ukrainians aren’t going to have any defensive positions that can anywhere near match what they built up in Avdeevka over almost nine years of reinforcing it”]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, October 28, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::[https://worldsnewsnow.com/all-forces-go-into-the-cauldron-zelensky-wants-to-personally-command-the-defense-of-avdiivka-in-the-world-policy/ All forces go into the “cauldron”. Zelensky wants to personally command the defense of Avdiivka]. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yah, a comedic actor is more qualified to command troops at a crucial moment than Corporal Hitler (German officers were correct in the First World War - Hitler wasn't fit for the rank of Sargeant even after 4 years at the front). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:07, October 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/7BVH8QPXh8o Ukraine Sends Last Leopard Tanks To Avdiivka Cauldron.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, October 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/0mFXcpiaaQ8 Cauldron practically closed], [https://youtu.be/0WPUEK2r4yw Jaws Of The Bear],  [https://youtu.be/-_3Joe31u_Q Russian Armored Columns STEAMROLL North of Avdiivka], [https://youtu.be/8vJ4FQICYyI NATO's Inevitable Erosion]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:24, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/GTRbhlnyQRI AFU Found Itself In A Cauldron In AVDIIVKA: Russians Order Them To Surrender To Save Their LIVES]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:56, November 10, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Zerohedge: [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/map-shows-another-key-ukraine-city-almost-fully-encircled-40k-russian-troops Map Shows Another Key Ukraine City Almost Fully Encircled By 40K Russian Troops]. Oh-oh. If Zerohedge is reporting factual news, [[CNBC]] maybe next. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:03, November 12, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, do you have information that debunks what RobSmith wrote above or are you just making an assumption RobSmith is wrong based on the &amp;quot;Captain Cauldron episode&amp;quot;? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:44, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whatsamatta? Your own research skills failing you now? Here, add this to your collection of racist crap from the [[Haushofer school of geopolitics]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Fox_10-24-23.PNG|right|1500px|thumb|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''[https://www.foxnews.com/media/population-rate-decline-us-triggers-economic-alarms-experts-calamitous-effect CDC data, between 2007 and 2022, the U.S. birth rate fell by 22%. Not a single state reported an increase in birth rates].&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:49, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rob is just wishcasting at the minute. As far as I'm aware, he's yet to claim this one as another glorious imaginary victory. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::RobSmith sees this war as a glorious war that Russia is winning. The reality is that this war of attrition is making Russia's demographic crisis worse. It's a reflection of Russia's degenerate autocracy that Putin launched this war and wishes to continue it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeZRN6YrN0 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], ABC News video, July 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:39, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Conway, Ignore him. He's [[gossip]]ing again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:38, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Is it too early to do a post mortem?===&lt;br /&gt;
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:''&amp;quot;Ukraine was defeated by its own Western propaganda.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''After the very military-strategically brilliant and gutsy move to pullback Russian forces from Kiev last year in order to shorten lines and concentrate all forces in a much smaller area, the Western pro-Ukrainian propaganda mills went into overdrive. They thought Russia was ‘on the run’ and had hoped that they could deliver a final “finishing blow” by way of propaganda, which would collapse Russian societal morale and lead to some kind of overthrow that would end the SMO.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But these people sadly knew very little about military doctrine or strategy. What Russia did was carry out an absolutely simple and pedantic textbook reorientation of forces with a clear logic. In fact, that moment should have been an extremely chilling maneuver for Ukraine. It should have signaled: “Uh oh…this means Russia is taking its gloves off.” The initial thunder-run on Kiev was merely a brazen attempt to avoid bloodshed and see if the conflict could be ended fast and early. But not having worked, Russian military planners clearly knew that now the entire operation had to be shifted into actual war footing, rather than mere enhanced special operations raid.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Everything changed from that point on. Pro-Ukrainians should have keyed in on this and realized the heavyweight was now removing his gloves. But instead, what they did was run with the propaganda that Russia is a defeated, cowardly, inept, and completely helpless paper tiger. This propaganda “worked” incredibly well, too well—but the problem is, it worked on the wrong side.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Instead of convincing Russians of it, it convinced the Ukrainians and Western public that the war had already been won, that Russia could never recover from this brutal “loss” (which was not a loss in the slightest but a strategic maneuver and concentration of forces). Since then, no one in Ukrainian society thought to take the war seriously anymore and Ukraine’s own “rear” end had dropped out, while Russia’s rear in fact throttled up into overdrive, in terms of the galvanization of society to supporting the troops and military machine top to bottom.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Now, the most aware pro-Ukrainian pundits are desperately trying to steer their flock back to rational thinking—but it’s too late.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''In fact, this will be studied for generations as an example of a massive propaganda fail—a propaganda campaign which destroyed its own side by way of inadequate attenuation and nuanced micromanagement of perceptions. They instead did a bruteforce method of flooding every which way without concerning themselves with who the propaganda was actually negatively affecting.: [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/time-magazine-profile-depicts-grim]&lt;br /&gt;
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One for the history books, as we write the narratives. [[NATO]] thought it could win the war on [[propaganda]] alone.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:26, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The advance on Kiev served two purposes: (1) to retrieve the elements of a [[dirty nuke]] fabricated with [[Chernobyl]] waste being assemble at Kiev's main airport; (2) to pressure Zelensky into the Istanbul negotiations where he caved into Russian demands to implement the [[Minsk Accords]] with a few additional demands. Even after Zelensky saw how Biden told the Afghan National Government to &amp;quot;fake it&amp;quot; when they were getting their butts kicked, Zelensky fell for Biden's messenger boy, [[Boris Johnson]], promise to stay in the fight with $60 billion bribe. Greed was Zelensky's motivation for betraying the peace deal negotiated with the Russians, not national pride, honor, or democracy, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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Moral of the story: Beware of propaganda. It can be deadly. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:39, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Now I know why someone wants to be a tyrant and greatly restrict my online reading! It's not ever going to happen! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot;|Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot; ===&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;According to data put out by the Russian Statistics Service 22.6 percent of Russian households aren't connected to a sewer system, most of them in rural areas. Russian commentators are divided about how vital an achievement modern toilets are.&amp;quot; - [https://www.eurotopics.net/en/217691/what-do-outdoor-toilets-tell-us-about-russia# What do outdoor toilets tell us about Russia?], ''Euro Topics Press Review'', April 3, 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Question: What good does a toilet do inside a home that is not connected to a sewage system? Do you ever think these things through?'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|The letter of Mergen Mongush from Moscow (“Not the Kremlin line, but an ordinary Russian’s view”, October 7) is very misleading. Most desirable high-end retail products in Russian shops are well beyond the purchasing power of the vast majority of Russians outside of Moscow and St Petersburg, as totalitarian Russia has the highest wealth disparity of any large country. The wealth of Tatarstan, Tyumen and many other areas is funnelled to a small elite of Russians in cities that are not producing this wealth, while these regions remain impoverished.&lt;br /&gt;
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When, for example, Russian troops invaded at Irpin and Bucha, close to Kyiv, they were shocked to see, in ordinary Ukrainian homes, huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, internal toilets and other goods that are luxuries for them. So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia.&lt;br /&gt;
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Russia may have greater wealth as a country, but most Ukrainians live better than the average Russian.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/ILpVs Letter: Russia’s looting soldiers tell real story of its economy], ''Financial Times'', October 20, 2023&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/ILpVs Letter: Russia’s looting soldiers tell real story of its economy], ''Financial Times'', October 20, 2023&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Flag of Ukraine.png|thumbnail|500px|center|Next time you see a Ukrainian flag, remember not only does Ukraine have beautiful blue skies and majestic plains of wheat, but there are ordinary Ukrainian homes with huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, and internal toilets - goods that are luxuries to Russian, soldier looters!]] &lt;br /&gt;
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I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:48, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is funny because it's true. Porcelain dreams of civilisation ftw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:53, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::RobSmith is angry that I once again flushed his flawed political opinions down the proverbial toilet. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at my personal user space where RobSmith bitterly complained that I don't restrict my reading to news sources that he personally approves: [[User talk:Conservative/Political news and various articles]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule, Britannia! Britannia co-rule the world's soft power with its special friend the USA that whom it has a special relationship with! Britons never will be slaves! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:06, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Russian society: Social stability is threatened by a lack of toilets in rural areas? Russian commentators are divided! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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UK pundits at Times Radio thought the war in Ukraine may bring Putin's regime down. Could it be the lack of indoor toilets in many rural Russian homes? Those sneaky Western capitalists with their soft power are so cunning! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:16, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks.  Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter. Russia's interest rate doubles and is now 15%. Russia's ruble is having PROBLEMS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 31, 2023, I found out that China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks.  Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBqhi1N0U2Q China Latest: Manufacturing Unexpectedly Shrinks, Services Miss Estimates]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcRfYeFi4w CHINA Manufacturing CRASHES in October as Output Unexpectedly Shrinks &amp;amp; Economic Problems Continue]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''This means trouble for Russia may soon be on the horizon:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The ruble is turning to rubble:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4FOtzQo1o RUSSIAN Ruble Collapse Panic Continues as Russia DOUBLES Interest Rates to 15%]&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like my knowledge of international politics and economics is better than someone claims! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:59, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of coarse Chinese manufacturing would shrink as it loses the US market and prices at [[Walmart]] rise; however this is compensated for by increased drone, artillery, cruise missile and other military equipment (which the US, EU, and NATO cannot compete with cause they have no manufacturing base left nor an educated workforce with skills to operate factory machinery) production then supplied to Russia and Iran via North Korea. But User:Conservative still thinks this is 1991 and there is no war. He's yet to grasp the global changes that were apparant in April 2022 when NATO rejected [[diplomacy]] and decided to escalate war with Russia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree with Prof. John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago who preaches the [[Realist school of international relations]] - there is no going back to March 2022. We cannot underestimate the scale of the disaster we created for ourselves. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:12, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't think I didn't notice that you failed to provide actual evidence that China's loss of manufacturing out is &amp;quot;compensated for by increased drone, artillery, cruise missile and other military equipment&amp;quot;. Because I did notice. And what is even crazier about your claim is that any military hardware manufacturing is manufacturing and China still had a manufacturing drop. &lt;br /&gt;
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::News story from non-Western source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la9HMosSCtM China's factory activity contracts in blow to economic momentum].  Speaking of blows, here's a quote that fits China's communist economic planners: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” - Mike Tyson. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:10, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::''Wall Street Journal'''s [[Singapore]] news bureau: [https://archive.md/UceXR#selection-4277.0-4277.44 China’s Economy Shows Fresh Signs of Slowing]. If only communist China were more like the prosperous and free country Singapore which is a great country for expats to raise a family in as I show [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_a_Westerner_falling_for_Russian_propaganda_is_like_a_man_who_is_seduced_by_a_corrupt_300_pound_woman HERE]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:23, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Defense conversion takes time as a nation reorders its priorities after [[Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come]]. The US doesn't have the educated workforce to work in machine factories, let alone the infrastructure itself. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:48, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The choice here is kinda up to [[NATO]], if it wants to end its [[warmonger]]ing over the next two years or so and make peace with the victorious powers, or continue its aggression. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:55, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::[https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/how-china-will-punch-out-our-lights How China Will Punch Out Our Lights]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:58, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am very bearish about China's long-term economy. I hope you didn't invest in a Russian company that plans on selling a whole lot of oil to China in the long-term future   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I used to be bearish about China's long-term economy, but now I am very bearish. &lt;br /&gt;
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Read my new essay at: [[Essay: It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy|It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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I hope you didn't invest in a Russian company that plans on selling a whole lot of oil to China in the long-term future (See: [[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines|Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin]] is [[Xi Jinping]]'s &amp;quot;friend for life&amp;quot;. I feel so sorry for him! See: [[Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future|Why I am not bullish on Russia's future]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IV9U_F8rI Japan's Recession Was Bad. China's Will Be So Much Worse.]&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Andy Schlafly told me that you are &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot;. As far as their economic prospects for the foreseeable future, I am guessing that you aren't very bullish on the future of China and Russia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We've talked previously about China's structural problems. I still suspect they have the financial / political wherewithal to engineer a soft(ish) landing, but the current [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67191262 Evergrande mess] neatly encapsulates the dilemma they face in trying to do so. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:28, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for a collaboration re: the essay at &amp;quot;Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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As I mentioned above, Andy Schlafly told me that you are &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in helping write the essay at: [[User:Conservative/Essay: Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition|Essay: Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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It would be a collaborative essay between the two of us. Alternatively, you could certainly write the essay yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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So far I have some of the initial sources/research done.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:32, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An alternative essay to the essay above could be: [[Essay: Russian military defeats in history]]. Alternatively, both essays could be written. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:33, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Out of material already, huh? It's hard to continue when you invent &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; out of your butt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:37, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Evidence suggest User:Conservative's obsession with Russia is motivated by a spirit of vindictiveness and hate toward a fellow Conservapedia, not by any animosity toward Russia. User:Conway!!! has not exhibited such irrational behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let's take your latest screed on alcoholism in Russia, for example. Is the basic underlying argument that Russia should convert to [[fentanyl]] as the [[United States]] has, as direct threat to public health? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, please disregard the above notice.  I just wrote the essay at: [[Essay: Russia getting pummeled in wars in Russian history that hyper Russophiles will not tell you about]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:25, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Apologies for the delayed response. I think it makes an important historical point. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:18, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why I don't wet my pants every night due to Russian, sabre rattling, nuclear war threats ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is yet another reason why I don't wet my pants every night due to Russian, sabre rattling, nuclear war threats:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12193309/Putins-administration-staff-starting-day-bottle-vodka.html Putin's administration staff 'are starting the day with a bottle of vodka and Security Council's Dmitry Medvedev is often drunk when he writes his apocalyptic threats of nuclear war'], Daily Mail, June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://nypost.com/2023/06/14/putins-staff-start-each-day-with-bottle-of-vodka-report/ Putin’s ‘stressed’ administration staff start each day with bottle of vodka: report], NY Post, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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Sweet dreams tonight. I hope you don't have any nightmares about nuclear war. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:19, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yah, I saw that. War propaganda if there ever was any. This is how Western [[MSM]] is trying to prepare the public and soften the blow for the news it lost in the Ukraine war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:21, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even if true (which it isn't) only a [[brainwashed]] fool would sleep easier knowing a bunch of drunks and a demented individual have their fingers on the [[nuke]]. Case study in the effects of propaganda, and delivering its intent on its targets. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As Sam Garrens says, propaganda begins from the premise that you are stupid, and User:Conservative cut n pasting these links to several pages bears this out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:33, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:15, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good luck, though. If sanity ever prevails, I'm definitely up for sending Rob's fan fiction [https://ahc.leeds.ac.uk/discover-dante/doc/inferno/page/5 back where it belongs.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:58, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fan fiction is important for &amp;quot;narrative development&amp;quot;. RobSmith complains that I don't spend enough time on narrative development as far as main page right news. While I do like the story of Alice in Wonderland, I do prefer reality over fictional stories/narratives. &lt;br /&gt;
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::He also finds my view of the war in Ukraine &amp;quot;uninspiring&amp;quot; which I gave a response to [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:_Doomsday_phobias_-_including_nucleomituphobia_caused_by_Russian_threats_to_use_a_nuclear_bomb&amp;amp;diff=2003247&amp;amp;oldid=2003246 HERE]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:04, November 12, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Doomsday phobias - including nucleomituphobia caused by Russian threats to use a nuclear bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Try not to think too much about the possibility of nuclear annihilation throughout the day if you read this essay in the morning. Cheers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:48, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am helping get the word out about how significant February 2020 was on the future of global politics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Let me know what you think. I am a big fan of the French historian Ferdinand Braudel. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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=== One partial explanation on why I am less &amp;quot;Putincentric&amp;quot; and less focused on the war in Ukraine than a certain Conservapedian ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel Fernand Braudel]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Annales-school Annales school of history]: &amp;quot;Annales school, School of history. Established by Lucien Febvre (1878–1956) and Marc Bloch (1886–1944), its roots were in the journal Annales: économies, sociétés, civilisations, Febvre’s reconstituted version of a journal he had earlier formed with Marc Bloch. Under Fernand Braudel’s direction the Annales school promoted a new form of history, replacing the study of leaders with the lives of ordinary people and replacing examination of politics, diplomacy, and wars with inquiries into climate, demography, agriculture, commerce, technology, transportation, and communication, as well as social groups and mentalities. While aiming at a “total history,” it also yielded dazzling microstudies of villages and regions. Its international influence on historiography has been enormous.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]] wrote: &amp;quot;Those of low estate are but a breath, those of high estate are a delusion; in the balances they go up; they are together lighter than a breath.&amp;quot; - [[Psalm]] 62:9 (NRSV).&lt;br /&gt;
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Long live the Annales school of history! Vive la France! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:50, November 13, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ahh, these guys were a bunch of socialists, ya know. But that's ok; User:Conservative's mind is so brainwashed and polluted at this stage, it doesn't really make a difference anymore. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:58, November 13, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Under Braudel’s direction the Annales school acquired a global reputation for promoting a new form of history. It replaced the study of leaders with the lives of ordinary people and supplanted the hallowed trio of politics, diplomacy, and wars with inquiries into climate, demography, agriculture, commerce, technology, transportation, and communication, as well as social groups and mentalities. '''Annales history further challenged the reductionism of the Marxists''' and the structuralism of the social sciences, its main competitors at the vanguard of postwar historiography. It aimed at a “total history” that relied heavily on quantification and also yielded dazzling microstudies of villages and regions. Braudel’s most significant contribution was his three-tiered view of historical time. Conceived while he was in captivity in 1944, it consisted of very long, practically immobile environmental time (the longue durée); the medium time of economies, societies, and cultures; and the short time of discrete events (the subject of histoire événementielle). Far from a simple flow, human experience was registered on all three clocks, operated with speed-ups and delays, and left a vast range of physical as well as mental traces.&amp;quot;[https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:20, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goodreads: [https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/183811.The_Marxism_Annales_World_System_Synthesis The Marxism-Annales-World System Synthesis]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:33, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I clicked the link. Lacks evidential support for your assertion and shows that you are very desperate! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:09, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay Mr. Ace Researcher: both Febvre &amp;amp; Braudel lived and worked under the [[Vichy regime]]; show me an original source document (in French or any other language) that explains where and what these guys were doing in the timeframe of 1940-1944, and by what means they were supported. It shouldn't be too hard, mapping the history of historians. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So if you can't prove they were associated with the [[Comintern]] or getting covert U.S. funding aid, then they must've have been Nazi-collaborators with the Vichy regime through a state-funded educational institution.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:16, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
With Braudel, you are attempting to use the guilt by association logical fallacy in spite of the fact that I gave you actual evidence via Encyclopedia Britannica (namely the Annales school of history &amp;quot;challenged the reductionism of the Marxists&amp;quot;). Your [[guilt by association]] logical fallacy tactics fail miserably when the rubber meets the road. For example, you tried to make the businessman [[Bill Browder]] a hardcore communist, but that crashed and burned when you couldn't find a single source. Also, your illogical fallacy of composition &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; is equally a big failure. For example, just because I cited Zeihan about Russian demographics means that I necessarily agree with everything he claims and that I don't understand some of his weaknesses like his overreliance on geography, demographics, economic factors and his other faults (The same applies to Mearsheimer who I also don't agree with 100%). &lt;br /&gt;
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But your greatest weakness is your lack of integrity which displays itself by making things up that you know are lies (Gossiping, Bill Browder is allegedly an avowed communist, and there are supposedly multiple sources that claim something when you know there are not such as the [[Karen Dawisha]] article). Everyone knows you are a liar and that is why you are not respected (But is also due to your abusive nature). And when I thought you could go no lower than being a pathological liar, you surprised even me by transforming yourself into high school girl-like gossiper with idiotic, far-fetched gossip so now I see you as being pathetically weak. As a result of your lack of integrity, you often engage in denialism (historical revisionism, etc.) because once someone lies to others prolifically, they naturally lie to themselves prolifically as well. Your attempt to whitewash Ivan the Terrible and Vladmir Putin are great examples of this as is your attempt to make Russia, which has low church attendance, big problems with alcoholism/AIDS, high divorce/abortion rates and a low fertility rate into some kind of holy nation.  In addition, you pretend that Peter Zeihan is the only person whose work I cited about Russian demography, but that is untrue as evidenced by my citation of the Russian demographer Salavat Abylkalikov (See: [[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]). I can accept cold hard truths such as US/Western foibles/weaknesses, but you can't do the same with Russia and China. For example, show me a nation that dramatically turned around its low fertility rate into a replacement fertility rate in the 21st century. You can't do it. The highest correlation with a replacement level of births in a population is religiosity and Russians are obviously not a holy nation.  &lt;br /&gt;
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My biggest mistake was interacting with you too much via talk pages, etc.  I am not going to make that mistake again. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 13:19, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Looks like you have Strike 2 now after personal attacks and an attempt at doxxing. [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&amp;amp;page=User%3AConwayIII] &lt;br /&gt;
If you wish to remain an editor in good standing and not convert this account into just another throwaway sockpuppet, I suggest you settle down and begin some productive editing when you return from your 2 day block. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:59, December 15, 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Would anybody like some more irony? There's plenty left if anyone can manage a second helping?&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''FYI, [[User_talk:Aschlafly#We_need_to_recruit_editors]]. Best wishes (and maybe DFTT), -Sanny [[User:CptSandra|CptSandra]] ([[User talk:CptSandra|talk]]) 09:36, February 23, 2022 (EST)''&lt;br /&gt;
:I realised a while ago that Andy, Rob and Ben don't actually want more editors here, despite occasional protestations to the contrary. At first, I think it was a kind of stubborn if-we-build-it-they-will-come that prevented any serious effort at promotion &amp;amp; recruitment, but as the years rolled by, they just grew to really, really love defining their own reality with as little pushback or compromise as possible. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 21:14, February 23, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
''I know nothing of Ben but I'm liking you already; Andy seems OK but I'm genuinely worried for RobS: invited to diagnose him, my cod-psychological pronouncement would be non-reactive psychosis, Hitlerian subtype.  Is it me or is he obsessed by Nazism?  Anyone that full of piss and vinegar must have serious problems off-line - I hope he feels able to reach out when the time comes. -S [[User:CptSandra|CptSandra]] ([[User talk:CptSandra|talk]]) 15:27, February 24, 2022 (EST) PS: He hasn't created [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CptSandra&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1] yet; if he does, might you second me in the debate?  No pressure: I have a fallback, but I'd prefer it to be you.  Could be fun, though I suspect he's not biting (in that sense, anyway).''&lt;br /&gt;
:At my current rate of spurious blocks, I advise you look for a more reliable presence in your corner. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:07, February 27, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Incivility==&lt;br /&gt;
Making personal comments about family members is little different than doxxing. Please refrain from that conduct in the future. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:40, April 22, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Have you tried trolling the Southfront discussion group yet? My two favorites are NATO fags like high heels and lipstick, and BanderiteLivesDontMatter.  I dont' think the username Bioweapons &amp;quot;R&amp;quot; Us is taken yet.  C'mon, show some cahoonies now. You can run with the big boys.  [https://southfront.org/did-russia-really-capture-canadian-general-in-mariupol/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:No need, man. I'm getting sufficient vitamin Z and practically OD-ing on fresh lunacy just from watching you smear your faeces all over the walls, windows &amp;amp; doors of Andy's formerly &amp;quot;Christian&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If he'll let you [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AMainpageright&amp;amp;diff=1860826&amp;amp;oldid=1860796 get away with posting this on MPR], you could probably forcibly teabag him in front of his wife, post a picture of the deed in place of the Conservapedia logo and still have him thank you for your service. Remarkable stuff. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:57, May 23, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[https://youtu.be/zGsiFyaFUbQ BREAKING: NATO Member Turkey to Invade Syria].  What's your take on this? Think Turkiye will acquiesce on Finland joining NATO in exchange for a little NATO help fighting Russia in Syria? How will the world react to another NATO [[war of aggression]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, May 23, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::My take is Erdogan would love to never hear about the plight of the Kurds again and also to be given free rein re. the PKK and YPG. He's ''probably'' reconciled to not getting that, despite his rhetoric, and is angling instead for a reboot of the F-35 deal, plus Patriots. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 15:04, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Patriots? He already bought the S-400 a few years ago (a superior weapon). That should have gave you a heads up there were problems within NATO and its wrong-headed &amp;quot;Russian Spring&amp;quot; designs back when Obama was approving Victoria Nuland, Samantha Power, Hillary Clinton, Jake Sullivan, and Antony Blinken's psychotic fantasies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::So, as NATO prepares aggressive actions against Transnistria and Lviv from Poland and Romania, Hungary declares a state of emergency. [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hungary-declares-wartime-state-emergency]  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Patriots. That's the current line out of Ankara, along with a hurt feelings claim they'd've never bought the S-400 if Patriots had been forthcoming when requested. No idea re. the truth of that, but it's an obvious way to frame it as a blunder by the Trump administration (2017) that needs fixing. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:12, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Wait. Stop. Think momentarily (however difficult). If NATO exists to defend the planet against Russia, and Turkey, NATO's largest manpower constituent group purchases Russian most modern advanced weapons from Russia to defend Turkey against Russia, what the hell do we need NATO for, then? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:37, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::So whom did Turkey purchase the S-400 system to defend against? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::&amp;lt;hint&amp;gt; To shoot down F-35 aircraft of NATO ally Greece. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:56, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::So again, why do we keep pouring $700 billion into the US Defense budget to keep the NATO house of cards alive?  And no, the &amp;quot;Russian bogeyman&amp;quot; that created the alliance no longer is a valid excuse or response. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/henry-kissinger-tells-davos-elite-to-give-in-to-russia Breaking: Kissinger tells WEF that NATO should throw in the towel]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:03, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Erdogan doing stupid stuff isn't the knockdown argument against NATO you're looking for. He got rebuffed for latest-gen kit from the US, felt slighted, and went and petulantly bought latest-gen kit from Russia. Works fine by Occam's razor and fits well with his increasingly weird &amp;amp; cranky nature. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::In other news, Kissinger reliably informed us there was zero chance of the Soviet Union collapsing. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:12, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Maybe Kissinger was talking about Soviet military power. The [[KGB]] went out of business in 1991, the [[GRU]] did not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Ok, so some may say Turkish S-400 are for shooting down Israeli aircraft, theoretically yes, in reality no, not unless Turkey was building its own nukes. While there is talk of a joint Saudi-Egypt-Turkish bomb to counter Iran, would Israel oppose that?  Anyway, we have no suspicions it's underway.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::So, again, when you read years ago that Turkey bought Russian weapons to shoot down NATO aircraft, you should have had enough brains to realize then the NATO alliance was dead. And Obama killed it (wittingly or unwittingly; I think wittingly). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:25, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::[https://findit.library.yale.edu/images_layout/thumbnails?parentoid=11781574 H. Kissinger being impressively wrong about stuff, Jan 14, 1988.] &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I've nowt to add re. motives for acquiring the S-400 and refer you back to my previous comments on Occam's razor and Erdogan himself. Feel free to keep spinning yourself another NATO-is-dead yarn, though. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:40, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::A &amp;quot;Kissinger was wrong argument&amp;quot; makes zero sense in 1988 and even less sense now. It's like saying &amp;quot;FDR was wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Lincoln was wrong for freeing the slaves&amp;quot;.  These men shaped the world you live in. That's why we can't disentangle ourselves from China today, cause of Kissinger. Whattaygona do? Dig up his grave after they bury him so you can spit on him?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Sheesh, why do I waste my time talking with idiots.... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:17, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::So somebody in 1988 says, &amp;quot;hey, it's probably not a good idea to establish trade ties with China,&amp;quot; where are they now? Can they help us get baby milk formula now cause Chinese trade destroyed our ability to produce it? or they just wanna debate how wrong Kissinger was? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:22, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::There's being wrong on points of detail; there's being wrong on some of the fundamentals; and then there's being dogmatically wrong about the entire direction of travel, despite an abundance of evidence to the contrary. It's a common problem with &amp;quot;realists&amp;quot; (cf. Mearsheimer) and seems to worsen as they age. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::The idea of a state as some kind of entity motivated by rational self-interest re. wealth &amp;amp; power works fine until all those epoch-changing moments when it suddenly doesn't, and it's usually pesky human hubris or delusion that makes such a spectacular mess of all the theorising. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:19, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Good. I'm glad you understood my point. This is not an academic debate. This is the school of realism. Now, why don't your sources report on the imminent collapse of (a) the Ukrainian military, and (b) the Ukrainian state?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Bottomline: (a) The pre-2014 borders will never exist again; (b) there will be no negotiations, as the ''NYT'', ''London Telegraph'', Zelensky, Kissinger and others are calling for NOW, unless the RF agrees to sit down at the table. Do you really think Biden, NATO, the West, the EU, or UN can force Russia to the table now, or anytime this summer? Russia will come to the table when its prepared to sit down, and the Anglo-American &amp;quot;rules based order&amp;quot; collapses at that point, short of nuclear war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:42, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::::My man, the ambition of the great Donbas &amp;quot;offensive&amp;quot; has been shrinking week by week, so much so that actually securing the remainder of Luhansk region would seem like something of a &amp;quot;victory&amp;quot;. It's not, of course. It's a so-called major power bursting a blood vessel to try &amp;amp; take a small city like Severodonetsk. That's not going to send a chill down anyone's spine. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:19, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So emotional==&lt;br /&gt;
You get so emotional about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in his underwear. I don't get it? It probably wasn't the first time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:39, October 31, 2022 (EDT&lt;br /&gt;
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== A quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your kind words.  The only reason I deleted your note on my talk page is that I have decided to be less forthcoming about my personal life off-wiki. It's better if people underestimate me. :) &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;...when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.&amp;quot; - Sun Tzu :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:25, November 15, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No worries. I agree it's best to avoid giving people that kind of ammunition. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:44, November 15, 2022 (EST&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't bother==&lt;br /&gt;
We already got screen shots of it. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:ConwayIII&amp;amp;curid=170256&amp;amp;diff=1910784&amp;amp;oldid=1910705]&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:16, December 11, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do not trivialize and make light humor out of topics like murder and rape ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Diff/1919825|This talk page addition of yours is inappropriate.]] Rather than remove your comment, I put it under a collapse. Do not insert such comments again, or you will be blocked. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(Mark 8:36)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 19:26, January 4, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==C'mon, kiddo==&lt;br /&gt;
Get your head out of the sand. We all get snookered by government misinformation once in awhile. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:12, April 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I magine you have some 'splainin to do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:48, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:By my count, there's probably 70,000+ more dead Ukrainians than Russians since we last talked. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:50, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ukraine didn't have a rebellion with its own tanks going towards its capital. Russia did. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:52, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I called as I saw it with Surovikin in charge: a sensible fighting retreat to the 2014 LOC plus the land bridge. Might've even preserved some offensive potential for later this summer / autumn if it had worked, because Surovikin's not an idiot. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Instead, Putin reinstalled Gerasimov for a kamikaze tilt at Bakhmut that ultimately resulted in Leopards, Patriots, Storm Shadows (!) and F-16s (!!) for Ukraine and Prigozhin's recent thunder run at Moscow (!!!). As for what happens next, you'll know it's getting serious when the Ukrainians decide to drop the Kerch bridge. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:24, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::What about Poland and Belarus? Anything gonna happen there? The Russians already have sabotage teams in Latvia, apparently. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:27, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, you wrote: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;amp;diff=1962201&amp;amp;oldid=1962199 &amp;quot;Stalin was a sensitive man, eh? You're certifiable, Quint. ConwayIII (talk) 18:45, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&amp;quot; ] &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me what you meant by Quint.  So far you have managed to stump me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:06, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mystery solved! [https://thedailyjaws.com/blog/certifiable-analysing-the-mental-health-of-quint-from-jaws Certifiable? Analysing the mental health of Quint from Jaws]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:09, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aye. That's the fella. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:22, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/mVDz8UlFYCPF/ A Russian soldier spits the truth.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:11, July 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://videon.img.ria.ru/Out/Flv/20230712/2023_12_07_x07x12x132946_mxb3duft.saq.mp4 Foreign mercenaries flee in terror]. These heroes went straight from the trench to the airport. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, July 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page &amp;quot;Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page: [[Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:40, August 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The war may be over before the F-16 and Abrams tank get combat tested against Russia's latest weapons, but for the record, the T-90 has withstood attack from the [[NLAW]]. [https://youtu.be/uYc2Ew2E0d0] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, August 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Given the special relationship between the UK and USA, I thought I would give you some glad tidings! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the special relationship between the UK and USA, I thought I would give you some glad tidings!&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you ready? Are you sitting down? &lt;br /&gt;
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Here it is: [[Essay: The USA will become bigger, better and stronger than ever before! Russia and China will not! USA! USA! USA!]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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And the next Republican president will strike a big, beautiful trade agreement with the UK! Then you can create the essay: [[Essay: The UK will become bigger, better and stronger than ever before! Russia and China will not! God save the queen!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And with Rishi Sunak's bigger emphasis on numeracy, the Brits will be better able to count all the riches! &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. I plan on visiting the UK. Maybe we will meet! &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S.S. Pay no attention to Irish-American Joe Biden who has not struck a big, beautiful trade agreement with the UK. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cheers, Ben. Happy to buy you a pint and some [[fish and chips]] if you ever make it over. If you've got sufficient time, you should definitely add [[Lindisfarne]] and Durham Cathedral to your itinerary and then hop over the Pennines and spend a few days in the [[Lake District]]. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:24, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am pretty pescatarian (vegetarian plus seafood), but I make exceptions such as the holidays. I don't eat chips anymore, but I have pretty good persuasion/negotiation skills and can usually get eating establishments to do a substitute. During these days of rampant food allergies and health-conscious consumers, most eating establishments will accommodate their customers for requests such as these. &lt;br /&gt;
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::How about Shepherd's Pie/Cottage Pie instead of fish and chips? :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Order whatever works best for you, man. If chips are the main issue, though, I can totally recommend a [https://junctionfisheries.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/fishbutty500.jpg fish butty] as an alternative. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:48, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No french fries or white bread for me. I gave up ultra-processed food and junk food. It's been great.  The only downside is that I buy a lot of my food at a lefty leaning food co-op. :)  I am not overly political so I am just joking. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Somewhat recently, I was booked several British authors for a leading podcast (In the top 1/2 percent of podcasts). Some of the British authors are notable (Bestselling authors, etc.). In addition, I was in the middle of negotiations with a British nonprofit to do some work for them and then the pandemic hit. Oh well, you can't land every deal. I do like doing business with Brits. They are unfailingly polite in most cases. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am guessing I can go to Britain and write some of it off as a business expense, but I will need to talk to an accountant. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:04, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Request for feedback on my essay  Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote the essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I give 4 major reasons why this happened. Can you think of any other major reasons? &lt;br /&gt;
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If so, please post them at: [[Talk:Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If I like them, I will add them to the essay. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:45, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I've seen everything now. User:Conservative recruiting Conway as a cheerleader for his Essays. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:57, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do refer to a certain individual as &amp;quot;Captain Cauldron&amp;quot;? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:49, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It would be too much to explain. It has to do military strategy and warfare. Stick with [[psychobabble]] where you excell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What's your obsession with me, anyway? I'm not that good looking. Besides, I want to be appreciated for my mind.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:54, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He used the phrase &amp;quot;Captain Cauldren&amp;quot; today without explaining the term. There is certainly nothing wrong with intellectual curiosity. &lt;br /&gt;
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::As far as psychology, although social sciences such as psychology and political science are less reliable than the physical sciences such as physics and chemistry, they are not totally useless. For example, my Psychology 101 professor was a cognitive psychologist and thanks to people like him airplane cockpits are designed to be more user-friendly. I also know of a school psychologist in a special need children charter school who has helped a ton of children overcome learning disabilities and other cognitive impairments. I am also friends with a person who lived in a former apartment building I lived in who has schizophrenia and he has been helped by the drugs developed by psychiatrists/psychologists and pharmaceutical companies, but he also said that God and his Christian faith played a big role in helping him too.  Every so often when I am in my old neighborhood, I say hello. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:06, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::He's only been using it for a year+, but you being so [[narcissistic]] and self-absorbed in your vengeance plots, it's not surprising you don't pay any attention to other human beings or what's happening in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
When someone posts about 20+ international relations essays on a website that another person disagrees with, it is not a vengeance plot. Please get a grip on yourself. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:21, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What are you talking about, this?&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:25, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Targeted sanctions.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Targetted Sanctions'', from a Moscow art exhibition.]]&lt;br /&gt;
:By my estimation, those two sentences have motivated you to type over 1,000,000 keystrokes (1 million bytes) in well over 400 hours trying to walk back a dumb trolling statement from 18 months ago. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:27, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::My essay writing on international relations started when I noticed someone was being a China/Russia cheerleader and being anti-American. And proclaiming the fiction of a multipolar world. &lt;br /&gt;
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::User: NishantXaivier may have pointed it out first though. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:36, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::There are no &amp;quot;cheerleaders&amp;quot; in a human tragedy; I'm sickened by your disgusting ramblings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:19, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just as I suspected. Your reading comprehension and analytical skills are low. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:37, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up.&amp;quot; - RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first.&amp;quot; -  RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, to be more precise, sometimes you are aware of something such as a person's China/Russia cheerleading and anti-Americanism, but it takes you a while before it gets under your skin. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:43, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::(ec) In April 2022, I was trying to warn that the [[Biden Junta]] was about to commit [[hari-kari]] with the whole of [[NATO]] and [[Western alliance|Western hegemony]], but you chose to go with the &amp;quot;Putin bad&amp;quot; theory - that you have been bottle fed since [[Obama]] failed to steal [[Sevastopol]] Naval Base from Putin in 2014. You haven't even connected the dots that &amp;quot;Putin bad&amp;quot; is cause Putin made Obama look like a fool. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:46, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, in a court of law, people giving testimony are told to &amp;quot;Give the whole truth and nothing but the truth&amp;quot;. GW Bush, Obama, and Biden can be bad men as far as US-Russia relations, while Putin can be bad too. You are creating a false dilemma and strawman argument.  Putin should have never launched his &amp;quot;special operation&amp;quot; in February of 2022. And I believe you might be able to [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_did_so_many_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_miserably_fail_concerning_their_multipolar_fantasy%3F#A_major_ego-deflating_bonanza_of_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_is_going_to_occur._It_will_be_a_popping_of_their_huge_egos_of_biblical_proportions.21 see that more clearly in 2030].  Of course, human denialism has no limits so I am not optimistic about this matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Interesting. But I'd be fool if I wasted my time reading your Nazi agitprop. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:38, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Deny that the Chinese ate gutter oil made from ingredients from processed sewage and lose all credibility. &lt;br /&gt;
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Consuming gutter oil can have negative consequences on people's health. According to experts, gutter oil is extremely toxic and riddled with carcinogens, like aflatoxin and benzopyrene. Consuming gutter oil can also lead to diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and developmental problems in children.[https://www.southerngreeninc.com/blog/what-is-happening-with-gutter-oil-in-china-and-how-common-is-the-use-of-gutter-oil#:~:text=Consuming%20it%20can%20have%20negative,and%20developmental%20problems%20in%20children.]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2015, Yeh Wen-hsiang, who was the chairman of a Taiwanese company, was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment and fined the equivalent of $1.6 million for selling 243 tonnes of gutter oil. And the mainland Chinese have begun to crack down on gutter oil sales more post 2010 too. However, &amp;quot;Food safety articles funded by PRC provincial science grants attribute continued difficulties in regulatory enforcement to the decentralized nature of the logistics chain, inadequate national infrastructure for disposal/recycling, and frequent innovations in visually and chemically disguising gutter oil.&amp;quot;[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil]  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:44, October 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, you wrote: &amp;quot;Is this summat to do with your weird (and as far as I can tell, entirely self-serving) theology re. once saved, always saved? Like, if Russia at some point successfully executes your Donbas cauldron fapdream, that somehow makes your bonkers March / April 2022 lies true? Asking on behalf of your sanity and possibly your soul. ConwayIII (talk) 19:34, September 4, 2023 (EDT)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What are you referring to as far as the months of March/April of 2022? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:30, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Be polite. Show some mercy. I don't think Conway really wants to go back and review his predictions from last winter about the Ukraine counteroffensive. I'm not asking him to do so, and you should show some respect, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:35, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::After calling the retreat from Kiev and Kherson and your boys' general ineptitude re. expeditionary warfare, I'm pretty happy with my record to date. The Sevastopol dry docks say hi, btw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Brief note on the withdrawal from Kiev: the advance on Kiev with 40,000 troops had primarily 2 purposes (40,000- men is not enough to take a city of 3 million; they would have needed a force of 300,000): (1) to force Kiev into the Istanbul negotiations; (2) to retrieve nuclear material that the Kiev regime had collected at the Gosomol Airport from the [[Chernobyl]] zone which could be used, or had already been assembled into, a [[dirty bomb]]. Shortly after the capture of the airport, the Russians began their withdrawal from the Kiev region.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here's why retrieval of the dirty bomb scenario is plausible: Americans always prioritize capture of landing fields and strips to transport in more men and material (for example the attack on Donetsk Airport in April 2014 or capture of Kandahar in Afghanistan in 2002); the Russians did not do this, signaling no intent to escalate the situation around Kiev. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:39, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Rob didn't handle the humiliating retreat from Kiev very well. As a result, he got ''very'' excited about Putin's switch to an offensive in the Donbas, which was supposed to capture the entirety of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. Rob fondly imagined this would prove Russia did, in fact, possess a fearsome war machine capable of expeditionary warfare at scale, and perhaps stop me laughing at him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rob - idiot, madman or shameless Putin-fellating liar that he is - took these '''projections''' as actual facts on the ground and declared the Donbas cauldron closed and the JFO catastrophically defeated.&lt;br /&gt;
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One small (&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;tiny!&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;) problem: '''this never happened.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The pincers stalled both north &amp;amp; south and the JFO never came close to being encircled.&lt;br /&gt;
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This bonkers lie is still available for public consumption in various parts of his fan fiction about the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite months of teasing, he categorically refuses to correct it. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You appear to have read [[Christian apologetics]]. Your trilemma reminds of [[C.S. Lewis]]' &amp;quot;Lord, liar or lunatic&amp;quot; trilemma concerning Jesus Christ.[https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/lord-liar-or-lunatic/#:~:text=Lewis%20constructs%20the%20argument%20in,t%20sit%20easy%20with%20him.] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, concerning your above claim, what Conservapedia pages are still not corrected in your estimation? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:14, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Conway: one other tiny problem, the Russians never intended to take Kiev. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::RobS, is Conway's claim true about you not correcting some of your pages on the Donbas Couldron relative to something that never happened? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:18, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What do you understand about [[maneuver warfare]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:25, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::60,000 [[AFU]] troops have been destroyed in the [[Bradley Square]] cauldron in the past 90 days, if you want to call it that. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::'''Doogie Doo-Doo Alert!''' Keep your nose out of things you don't understand, especially if you have malicious motivations. I'm like Trump or Putin, I hit back twice as hard. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Classic cauldron warfare calls for total encirclement; in the [[Mariupol cauldron]], the city exists on a lake. With [[ISR]], mass troop movements today are almost impossible. So the Russians encircle on 3 sides in a [[kill zone]], and let [[NATO]] keep feeding in fresh meat for the meatgrinder. So NATO is learning some lessons, hopefully. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:32, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:2023 Ukr plan.PNG|right|300px|thumb|Ukraine's 2023 battle plan to split the Russian forces in half modelled after [[Sherman's March through Georgia|Gen. Sherman's March to the Sea]] in the [[American Civil War]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[2022 Special Military Operation in Ukraine - Donbas cauldron|This]] is the most gleefully bonkers. It's so unhinged it even features tactical maps from May 2022 which directly contradict the TV maps / projections from March and April 2022. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We'll see, if the Russians take [[Dnipro]] in addition to [[Kharkov]]. It may take 3 years, but it forms up as a classic cauldron. With NATO not having the resources, and the US &amp;amp; EU ready to back out, this scenario in the near future appears increasingly likely. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That map is no different than the map at the right, which Nazi cheerleaders still have people like you and User:Conservative believing is happening right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:40, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now here's the facts: NATO had 120,000 NATO trained troops, nearly half of AFU forces, on the Donbas line of contact since April 2021 showing aggressive intent against civilians and military. Russia responded in February 2022 under Article 51 of the UN Charter, allowing collective defense. Within three weeks, half of the AFU forces feared encirclement. Zelensky ordered a call up of forces and expansion of Ukraine's military. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:55, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Pay attention, man: if I say the Red Sox won in the World Series in 2022, my error is not corrected by them winning it in 2025. I'm confident a 6-year-old could grasp this. Feel free, though, to continue positioning yourself as lacking the cognitive firepower of a small child. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That map is simply a contemporaneous report of perceptions of the situation at that point in time. Zelensky would not have done the call up and expansion of the AFU if NATO &amp;amp; Ukrainian military intelligence did not fear developing encirclement in a cauldron.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Now, the perception and understanding of the limits of maneuver warfare was a later development by both NATO &amp;amp; Russian military analysts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::It is only in the past 3 months that a consensus has emerged, after a yearlong debate, that &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; are a thing of the past. IMO, that remains to be seen; after destruction and collapse of remaining AFU forces, in the absence of any diplomatic efforts, we are very likely to see some Russian &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; from the north. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:17, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I see. Bonkers lies are Good Things Requiring No Retraction as long you can point to sufficient Russian TV &amp;quot;vibes&amp;quot;? Good luck with that. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:54, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::The debate about &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; arose among analysts in both camps last year. Russian commentators were probably quicker to say it's a thing of the past (some claimed they were just making excuses), but it appears NATO commentators now are coming to the same realization, only not all yet. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::As I said, I'm still not convinced entirely; some might argue advancing enmasse after the total defeat of an enemy in the field is not really an &amp;quot;offensive&amp;quot;, but in the absence of a diplomatic settlement or formal surrender, it should be considered as such. And that may be where we're headed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:20, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::[https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&amp;amp;q=russian%20%27agriculture%27%20weapon&amp;amp;mid=FC1C0EC85155FABCB674FC1C0EC85155FABCB674&amp;amp;ajaxhist=0 Remote mine laying equipment] (the Russians call it 'Agriculture') has revolutionized warfare. It provides no escape for an advancing force, effectively creating a 'cauldron'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::The CRUX video above doesn't explain it very well. The Russians herd an advancing force into a kill zone surrounded on 3 sides, and then use remote mine laying ('Agriculture&amp;quot;) to sprout mines behind them, preventing retreating forces from exiting, and re-enforcements from entering, the kill zone. It is effectively a cauldron, without using troops to close the trap. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:41, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::All of which is fascinating, no doubt, but we're talking about a specific &amp;quot;big arrow offensive&amp;quot; which very obviously stalled shortly after your declaration of victory and which has since seen its northern pincer completely obliterated. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:45, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::I never declared any kind of victory. Zelensky &amp;amp; NATO crapped their pants and expanded the war effort out of fear of being caught in a classic pincer movement. Good bluff on the Russian side, seeing their aim was to de-militarize NATO, if necessary. It worked.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Give human beings some credit - they never stop coming up with ingenious new ways to kill each other.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:51, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to clarify, is there a retraction or retractions that still that still need to be made? If so, what page or pages need to be corrected and in what sections? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From [[2022 Special Military Operation in Ukraine - Donbas cauldron|this particular bit of his fan fiction]], the 2nd paragraph needs to be nuked from orbit. The March and April maps need to go, or have the captions completely rewritten. I can dig other mentions tomorrow. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:24, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What's wrong with the second paragraph? Doesn't it chronicle the lying Russian state media propaganda apparatus? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/ Here is the source.] Everything has to be verified from that source before any changes are made. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay. I have reread the original source link. There's nothing wrong with it. The AFU was indeed trapped in a cauldron, before any NATO equipment or mercenaries showed up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yep. Re-read it a second time. That piece, ''The Russian military intervention in the Ukraine – a macro view'' - March 09, 2022 stands for its historical relevance. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::This excerpt summarizes the view or the author at that moment in time, which by every indication was borne out by factual reality, and has not changed to this day (and was primary basis for NATO provoking the war):&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''&amp;quot;My fear is that the United States and Joe “Biden” have decided that the best thing for them is to have as many dead Ukrainians as possible.  And that is not a means to an end, it is the end: have as many Steppe N*ggers and Snow N*ggers kill each other. This is [[the West]]’s sole and entire plan for the Ukraine: (example from [https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-09-22/h_4498c85f00bb1fd41412cd70b0fcfe70 CNN])''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Turns out, the people in the CNN [[fake news]] report of the maternity hospital bombing attest NATO/Ukraine bombed the hospital, not Russia. That fact was not known to the author at the time he wrote the piece. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:41, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::OK, man: specific dates, specific locations. Your fan fiction claims the cauldron &amp;quot;closed&amp;quot; on March 14, 2022. '''Your boys on the northern pincer were still fighting for Izium on March 14.''' Since the southern pincer never really got going at all, your cauldron is '''over 100 miles short of being &amp;quot;closed&amp;quot;.''' &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Serious question: just how stupid does a man have to be to try &amp;amp; run with such obvious guff? [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:35, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::All I'm saying is the specific meaning of cauldron warfare, as understood in March 2022, was reported by that source. It's meaning or understanding has evolved since to include remote mine laying to complete encirclement, not just manpower. And the Donbas cauldron itself is ''still'' (my point) in development. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:48, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, man. This is '''your''' reporting and that makes '''you''' responsible for the accuracy of the sources '''you''' choose to include. If you rely on an obviously shite source, that makes you an obviously shite reporter. That's just how it works. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::(ec) At right is the source map, with text, of the situation on March 9, 2022 when [[Zelensky]] begged for mercy and requested the Istanbul peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:08, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::At that moment in time, March 9, 2022, half the AFU, 120,000 men, were effectively cut off - their Airforce had been destroyed, and their supply lines were under the control of Russian artillery and air power. Zelensky begged for mercy. An operational pause ensued. Negotiations in Brest and later Istanbul established humanitarian corridors and prisoner swaps. Putin began withdrawing from Kiev as a gesture of good faith based upon the Istanbul peace talks which revived the [[Minsk Accords]]. The US Congress voted $60 billion in aid, and by April 2 the peace talks fell through. Larger packages of NATO arms began arriving. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:21, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::What's your point, man? The map bears no relation to what actually happened. You could draw one yourself and claim your boys wrapped up an entirely successful SMO by the end of Feb. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:23, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The solid red lines show Russian advances in two weeks; the solid blue lines show AFU positions. The dotted red lines show areas under Russian air and artillery control. This is effectively a tactical cauldron. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:29, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::No. That map and your guff have no more bearing on strategic reality and historical fact than when Trump took out his Sharpie and tried to &amp;quot;prove&amp;quot; that Dorian was ''totally'' forecast to hit Alabama. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::In case you've forgotten, the VKS were - and still are - famously incapable of flying the kind of massed, deeper interdiction strikes that NATO AFs take for granted. Your boys get modest close air support along the front lines and that's their lot. And you don't get any &amp;quot;fire control&amp;quot; of an area from occasional standoff strikes with cruise missiles air-launched from hundreds of miles away.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Even taking your guff seriously for a moment, just for the sake of argument, you've got a ~60 mile hole in your &amp;quot;cauldron&amp;quot;. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 13:15, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::That was the situation on March 9 as the Kiev regime felt tactical encirclement. The first round of the Ankara peace talks occurred on March 10. Zelensky had requested the peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:50, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::The 60 m gap you allege was covered by Russian airpower. There was no Ukrainian airforce left. The AFU could not be supplied with fuel for retreat or fresh drinking water. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:57, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::120,000 troops - half the Ukraine army - were trapped in a tactical cauldron on March 9. Zelensky cried &amp;quot;uncle&amp;quot; and asked for peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Sure thing, Captain. And a length of pipe is a tactical bucket and up is down and you're a historian and absolutely definitely not a deeply weird old man drunk on the smell of his own farts and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Maybe there's some money in it for you eventually when the last of the Z-head deadenders get desperate enough for their very own vatnik QAnon. ''&amp;quot;Trust the plan!&amp;quot;'' you'll tell them. ''&amp;quot;Enjoy the show!&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Nah, I'm just keeping notes like A J P Taylor or Basil Henry Liddell Hart. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, September 16, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, &amp;quot;As for the men in power, they are so anxious to establish the myth of infallibility that they do their utmost to ignore truth.&amp;quot; - Boris Pasternak. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The article has about 1,275 page views. If you are right about &amp;quot;fan fiction&amp;quot; (RobSmith seems to be admitting it is &amp;quot;fan fiction&amp;quot;), do you think this is causing some readers to quickly click off the page and certainly not recommend the page to others? If so, why do you think RobSmith hasn't made the correction yet? I ask because people usually create content so other people read it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
'''Quick note to RobSmith:''' Are you saying that the &amp;quot;fog of war&amp;quot; is largely responsible for the discrepancy or that the Western media was either intentionally/unintentionally misreporting? Sometimes when it comes to historical events, there are conflicting reports and sometimes it is not due to malice.  So the careful historian has to carefully weigh the evidence. In addition, unfortunately in war &amp;quot;truth is often a casualty&amp;quot; and there is propaganda on both sides. &lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, given that I believe that the war of attrition could drag on for years, I am not going to be following this war super closely in terms of the battles.  In addition, my interest in geopolitics has waned and will likely continue to wane. In addition, I would rather be a contributor to various events rather than be largely a spectator to events. So I am not going to be a good referee when it comes to this content dispute.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:25, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Second note to RobSmith:''' Your source appears to be merely some blog run by some unknown blogger. Here is an excerpt from your blogger from the source you cited: &amp;quot;My fear is that the United States and Joe “Biden” have decided that the best thing for them is to have as many dead Ukrainians as possible.  And that is not a means to an end, it is the end: have as many Steppe Niggers and Snow Niggers kill each other.&amp;quot;[https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/]  This certainly does not appear to be a reliable source. &lt;br /&gt;
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Admittedly, I haven't investigated the issue of this battle, but I can't say that I am sympathetic to your position on this matter. At this point, I would lean towards User: ConwayIII's position. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:35, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Note User:Conservative: I don't read your trolling edits. You take 6 paragraphs to say something that could be said in 6 sentences, or 6 words. And I'm not interested in your &amp;quot;BTW&amp;quot; stories from your childhood. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I am not a fan of Ukraine or Russia as I believe they are both corrupt and authoritarian regimes. The war is causing casualties and economic damage to both countries which is very bad since both Russia and Ukraine have a demographic crisis and this war is making their demographic crises worse. The war is also causing economic damage to Europe and USA taxpayers. And it is restricting the food supply to the world. I hope the war ends soon, but it appears as if it could go on for years.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
ConwayIII, do you believe that a Chinese economic crisis would make it harder for Russia to fight the war at some point since Russia sells oil and gas to China? If so, when do you think this will happen? &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, war spending can be very inflationary. [https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-russia-economy-inflation-business-ukraine-war-ruble-interest-rates-2023-9 Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan], Business Insider, 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Here's one of your ideological kinsmen: [https://youtu.be/ffnaGUIXT4s Pyramid of Far-right Radicalization leads to DEMOCRAT-BACKED AMERICAN NEO-NAZIS IN UKRAINE]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::At the end of August, I realized that my interest in international relations would soon wane to a certain degree. With the Chinese economy beginning to have significant problems and likely declining a lot more, that certainly could mitigate the influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and their newfound ally the Kremlin. &lt;br /&gt;
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::At the same time, in terms of its effect on Christendom, this could be a bonanza for the Chinese Christian population. Xi JingPing, whose administration is persecuting Christians, might lose power. We might even see the end of the CCP in the 22nd century or early 23rd century should Jesus tarry. Of course, things are hard to predict when it comes to politics in China. For example, if Xi JingPing is replaced, it could be by someone even worse who persecutes Christians even more. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, if Putin loses power sooner or Kremlin influence wanes in Russia, since the Russian state does get involved in religious matters and favors the Russian Orthodox Church, maybe there will be more competition within the Christian church sphere which could cause Russian churches to up their game so Russia's moribund church attendance figures might see a rise. &lt;br /&gt;
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::So this is certainly something to keep in prayer. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Russia doesn't have the pipeline infrastructure to sell much gas to China and it'll take years to build enough to compensate for the loss of EU markets. Significant slackening of Chinese oil demand would be much more damaging.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As for the likelihood of a major economic crisis, China probably has more than enough stashed in its sovereign wealth fund to stave off any immediate disaster. The trick is to intervene in ways that don't further destabilise an increasingly dysfunctional economy that's staring down the barrel of some ugly demographic trends. I don't think they've figured that out yet and they're likely reluctant to pull the trigger too hastily.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Perhaps that means they end up moving too late, but in the short to medium term, my money's on cushioned slowdown rather than epic crash. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:ConwayIII, you wrote: &amp;quot;my money's on cushioned slowdown rather than epic crash.&amp;quot;.  While this may happen, I think there are signs that the slowdown/decline will happen faster than you think. See: [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_rising_rule_of_communist_idiocracy_in_China#China_has_likely_peaked_arguments China has peaked arguments]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:36, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The biggest risk China faces is probably Xi's determination to install himself as Dear Leader for life. [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/power-causes-brain-damage/528711/ Does bad things to a man's brain.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:42, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Xi JingPin's love of communism is very bad and will make things worse. On the other hand, a lot of what is going to happen in China is the result of prior bad decisions and they will be impossible to reverse. But there are a lot of Christians in China right now and the fervent Christian Chinese population will likely increase with time for a significant period of time. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Here is the dilemma. Communism causes problems that necessitate reforms. But reforms undermine communism. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Marxism is a Western idea with not very long roots in the light of China's very long history. Hopefully, it will fall in my lifetime in China.  The Soviet Union eventually collapsed suddenly. So you never know. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:53, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A victim of my own campaign's success? If true, it is ironic. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayII, I do believe in religious freedom and noticed that homosexual activists were restricting religious freedom. So I did some modern-day muckraking relating to the issue of homosexuality that drove a lot of traffic to Conservapedia. In addition, I wanted to drive traffic to Conservapedia in order to gain an audience to my future articles on atheism. &lt;br /&gt;
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I discovered so much muck in my muckraking that I think it had an influence on Conservapedians and the owner of the website. And now Putin's and Xi's anti-homosexuality views are seen as a license for them to break God's other commandments - which of course, it is not. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Never mind Conway, he's just bragging and boasting - it's a symptom of [[narcissistic personality disorder]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, please email at conservativeconservapediaATgmailDOTcom  &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:23, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Reply to my newest email please. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:45, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am among the 90+% of sane Americans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;less than 10% of Americans, a bigger number of the Republican Party, but less than 10% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin&amp;quot;. - February 2023[https://www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-the-republicans-lifting-up-putin-are-the-same-ones-trying-to-destroy-democracy]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hurray for sanity! Long live sanity! &lt;br /&gt;
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There are countries in Asia that have adopted much of Western values such as [[Japan]], [[South Korea]] and the [[Philippines]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The above graphic comes from the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qovJZwIVr0 Why the West Won’t Collapse with Stephen Kotkin] (Stephen Kotkin is an American historian, academic, and author.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Essay: Why has the West been so successful?|Why has the West been so successful?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Go West! &lt;br /&gt;
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West is best! East is least! (High school chant). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:07, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Re: Kent &amp;quot;Boneface&amp;quot; McClennan narrative might be total hype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding our recent discussion about Kent &amp;quot;Boneface&amp;quot; McClennan:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/09/13/us-neo-nazi-says-he-fought-in-ukraine-records-place-him-in-florida/ US neo-Nazi says He Fought in Ukraine, Records Place Him in Florida] and [https://www.vice.com/en/article/epv5ak/inside-the-neo-nazi-trial-of-boneface-the-man-they-think-made-them-look-bad Inside the Neo-Nazi Trial of 'Boneface', the Man They Think Made Them Look Bad] &lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps some due diligence is in order. As per my previous comments to you, I will not be doing extensive fact-checking in matters such as these. &lt;br /&gt;
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I put this information at: [[Talk:Boneface McClellan]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I sent you a second email about Steve Bannon and why I am not a big fan of his. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Go fix it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:56, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The fixing of the [[Bill Browder]] article shows me that the return on investment (ROI) in terms of fixing obvious mistakes in your articles is not worth it.  And the &amp;quot;Captain Couldron&amp;quot; situation possibly echoes this situation. &lt;br /&gt;
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::If you don't care that some readers will quickly off your articles due to factual mistakes (That are due to a lack of fact-checking) and a lack of objectivity, then I guess you will have to lie in that squalid bed. I am not going to drag you across the finish line of quality article production. And frankly, I cannot say that I am upset if your China/Russia cheerleading articles receive low traffic. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:07, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The phrase became internationally known in English after Suzanne Massie, who is a scholar of Russian history, taught it to [[Ronald Reagan]], then [[president of the United States]], who latter used it in the context of nuclear disarmament discussions with the [[Soviet Union]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I was a fan of Reagan. He is the person who caused me to lean to the political right. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:14, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Steve Bannon, addendum ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a second email about Steve Bannon and why I am not a big fan of his.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, he might be facing criminal charges related to fraud and some border wall project. But given recent events in terms of the USA's legal system as far as Democrat &amp;quot;Banana Republic&amp;quot; antics, I am going to wait for the dust to settle before I come to any conclusion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Our recent email exchange  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We recently had an email exchange. &lt;br /&gt;
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I think this essay will help clarify an issue you wrote about: [[Essay: Jesus compared to Niccolò Machiavelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect Conservapedia's resident fanboy of Niccolò Machiavelli will not like this article, but perhaps it will be a splash of cold water to his conscience and awaken his moral sensibilities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:22, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please maintain basic civility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, I know, you think RobSmith doesn't hold a high intellectual capacity. Unless you're seeking a lengthy block, do not throw around 7th-grade level insults, especially seeing that no one unjustly provoked you to begin with. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 14:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, do not remove collapse templates that I place on your comments; if you repeatedly edit-war in reverting my installation, this will similarly be grounds for the imposition of a semi-lengthy block on your account, and you will thereby have to wait an unfortunately long duration of time before responding in those precious discussion pages where you just love to insert the expected amateurish fourth-rate trolling. Good day. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 14:43, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: ConwayIII, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy and DavidB4, &lt;br /&gt;
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Less than a month ago, we had an &amp;quot;Articles for Deletion&amp;quot; vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted. &lt;br /&gt;
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With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:33, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine]] please vote in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''This is a time wasting revote.''' There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. [[User: RobSmith]] lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vote on this matter would be very helpful.  Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later. Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:12, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I saw your vote in the AfD vote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed your vote in the AfD vote. Good show! &lt;br /&gt;
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This calls for some celebratory music! [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhL9X0noKimjvGEmJ0XGkBn8xv3aF8lwq Tremaine Hawkins - Gospel Funk Nation!] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:56, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ_m7Yu3H3A Cheers.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 14:18, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Word salads are nice, but please restrain the incivility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You're lucky this is a warning you haven't already received the lengthy block, man. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 19:42, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Go away, man. No-one here cares what you think and Andy will never make you  an admin. I'm happy to take you through the various bits where you completely f_____ it if you'd like to try again with a fresh account &amp;amp; IP address. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:27, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sure, after this reply, I'll go away for now. But remember: you remain on Conservapedia today because two years ago, I reversed Conservative's decision to permanently kick you out. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 21:03, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Please comment on my motion==&lt;br /&gt;
Please comment in support of my motion at: [[Conservapedia:User complaints#Endorsements]]. Thank you, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 20:35, October 9, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please email me ==&lt;br /&gt;
Please email me at maygodbless135 AT gmail DOT com at your earliest convenience. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 23:44, October 9, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's bizarre ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote this in reply: Shortly after waking up today, I thought about how weird it is for RobSmth to love Russia. It's like a guy falling in love with a 300 pound woman. If I were to pick a country outside the USA to very much like/love, I would pick Singapore. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Singapore's safety and low crime rate make it an attractive destination for expats, as it provides peace of mind and security for those living and working in the city-state. The country is considered one of the safest places in Asia, and it is a great place for expats to raise families.&amp;quot; [https://www.georgiacaney.com/post/pros-and-cons-of-living-in-singapore-as-an-expat-in-2023#:~:text=Singapore's%20safety%20and%20low%20crime,for%20expats%20to%20raise%20families.]&lt;br /&gt;
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There is far less social dysfunction in Singapore than in Russia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:43, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wow. &amp;quot;provides peace of mind and security&amp;quot;. You'd think our resident geopolitical expert of the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Geopolitics|Haushopher School of Realism]] and [[Holocaust revisionism]] would know something about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_in_Singapore Caning in Singapore]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:00, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Singapore has low crime and a highly educated population. A far higher percentage of Russian men die of alcoholism or other self-destructive behaviors in Russia than are materially harmed by caning in Singapore. &amp;quot;In 2021, life expectancy at birth for women in Russia was about 74.77 years, while life expectancy at birth for men was about 64.21 years on average.&amp;quot;[https://www.statista.com/statistics/971100/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-russia-by-gender/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20life%20expectancy%20at,about%2064.21%20years%20on%20average.] In 2020, life expectancy in Singapore was 83.74 years (2020).[https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/life-expectancy-of-singapore-population-rose-in-last-decade-but-fell-during-covid-19\] Also, &amp;quot;The average life expectancy of males in Singapore is 80.7 years. The life expectancy at birth for males increased from 70.1 years in 1981 to 80.7 years in 2022, an increase of 15.1%. When we compare male life expectancy with a decade back (79.8 years in 2012), it increased by 0.9 years.&amp;quot;[https://smartwealth.sg/life-expectancy/#:~:text=2)%20The%20average%20life%20expectancy%20of%20males%20in%20Singapore%20is%2080.7%20years&amp;amp;text=The%20life%20expectancy%20at%20birth%20for%20males%20increased%20from%2070.1,it%20increased%20by%200.9%20years.]&lt;br /&gt;
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::The national life expectancy numbers don't lie and it's impossible for you to sweep Russian society dysfunction under the rug. &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - [[John Adams]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, consider this: [https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-police-ukraine/2023/10/01/id/1136569/ Russia Facing 'Critical' Shortage of Police]: &amp;quot;Corruption is also taking a toll. A police major from the city of Tomsk said that officers are &amp;quot;beating confessions out of people, inflating arrest quotas. We're seeing this all the time. It's only going to get worse. There will be falsification of evidence, targeted beatings. There just isn't going to be time to investigate anything properly.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And, [https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gun-crime-surge-police-kursk-ukraine-border-1761774 Russia Suffers Gun Crime Explosion as Police Say Cases Have Gone Up by 600%], November 2022.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's very clear that Singapore is a much better country to live in than Russia, but go ahead and continue to embrace your 300 pound woman like country. A polka song comes to mind: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez_hQdWN4Rg Oh, I don't want her you can have her. She's too fat for me]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:42, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::See how Americanized and Westernized Russia has become in such a short period of time: &amp;quot;It's only going to get worse. There will be falsification of evidence, targeted beatings. There just isn't going to be time to investigate anything properly.&amp;quot; [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:19, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::'''ConwayIII, I hope you are a polka fan. Behold, my new satirical essay has been unveiled:''' [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:29, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It's time Conservapedia's articles on Russia and Putin have much greater objectivity. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:46, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Let's bring a balanced perspective to [https://www.dw.com/en/the-invisible-scars-left-by-strikes-of-the-cane/a-18298970 your beloved Singapore]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:24, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::[https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/11lvgdl/russian_brandkhokhloma_kokoshnik_soviet_carpet/?rdt=42809 Big Mother Russia (in a fetching range of tracksuits!)] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:05, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for sharing that. The essay has a new title in case you didn't notice: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Should I write another essay? Like [[Essay: Why Russian gangsters and their propagandists need a sound caning. Singapore is much better country than Russia!]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:16, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sarah Ashton-Cirillo.PNG|right}300px|thumb|'''&amp;quot;Give me liberty or give me death!&amp;quot;''' U.S./NATO spokeswoman thing [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Have at it, man. They need some kind of sense beating into them. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:38, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If Jesus should tarry, imagine what Russia will look like in 2030 or 2035 when I write about Russia again. Mother Russia will be a 400 pound woman instead of merely being a 300 pound woman. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:48, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Unlike the West and America, at least she'll be a woman. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:08, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::ConwayIII, did you notice that RobSmith is trying to shift the focus away from a Singapore vs. Russia comparison? It's a clear sign of resignation and defeat. As much as I am reluctant to do it, I am going to have to declare victory. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::And I still predict that an aging and corrupt Mother Russia will be 400 pounds in 2030 or by 2035. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:18, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::As I said, at least she'll be a real female, unlike those things you are [[grooming]] in [[the West]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:44, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxNTUuUftA 'The Miracle Of Asia' (Part 2) - Singapore Documentary]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSOgcpRbrCo Why Singapore is One of the World's Richest Countries]&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, I trust this further clarifies a very clear issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:56, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;|||Ez 16:49}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;To take a look at how and where such a minimal standard of welfare design has been implemented successfully, one need only look at the city-state of Singapore. The Singapore welfare system is considered one of the most successful by first-world standards. [https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?locations=SG-US-DE-NL-JP-FR-AU-KR&amp;amp;year_high_desc=true World Bank data] shows that Singapore’s government health expenditure in 2015 is only 4.3 percent of GDP, a small fraction in comparison to other first-world countries—16.9 percent in the US; 11 percent in France; 9.9 percent in the UK; 10.9 percent in Japan, and 7.1 percent in Korea—while achieving comparatively equal or better health outcomes of low infant mortality and higher life expectancies. While most of Europe, Scandinavia, and North America spend 30-40 percent of GDP on social welfare programs, Singapore spends less than half as much while maintaining similar levels of economic growth and a society relatively free of social problems.&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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By compelling Singaporeans to save, welfare in Singapore has traditionally been internalized first to the individual and the family/grassroots level. This forms the crux of the government’s “Many Helping Hands” social policy where the role of the family and immediate community in welfare provision is emphasized over government-funded programs. Such a form of privatized charity is neither new nor unique, as a wealth of research shows how mutual aid societies predated modern welfare states in the 20th-century United States and the 19th-century United Kingdom.[https://fee.org/articles/what-america-could-learn-from-singapores-social-welfare-system/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Singapore has the 2nd lowest infant mortality rate in the world - so it is much better than Russia in this respect as Russia has about a 400% higher infant mortality rate.[https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/]&lt;br /&gt;
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I trust this further clarifies a very, very clear matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:31, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You heard it here: the reasoning of a [https://www.sophie-sticatedmom.com/2019/07/29/manchild/ man-child]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:36, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::ConwayIII, I believe I found another reason why RobSmith is so enamored of a 300 pound Mother Russia. He needs to raise his standards. Singaporeans can help him do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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::“The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it.” - Michelangelo[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:44, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The more you talk, the more you sound like [[Bernie Sanders]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Please vote in this AFD vote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote the essay: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Please vote in this AfD vote: [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay: Why A Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:13, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for you recent feedback and some information you might be interested in. Also, Conservapedia's Dunning-Kruger effect article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your recent feedback concerning my writing which I requested.  I appreciated your positive feedback and your pointer on how I could improve too. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I added some additional content to the [[Dunning-Kruger effect]] article. It's an interesting topic and it shows the importance of having self-awareness and why it's important to improve both your weaknesses and your strengths. Top performers such as Olympic athletes improve their strengths and weaknesses which increases their overall performance.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, I know you are interested in politics. I just added this information to the essay  at [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Question:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; Did you know that is very doable to be a better forecaster in terms of politics, economics and other future events? There is a great book on this matter by the political science writer and political science professor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_E._Tetlock Philip E. Tetlock] entitled ''[https://www.amazon.com/Superforecasting-Science-Prediction-Philip-Tetlock/dp/0804136718/ref=sr_1_1?crid=RXUQRMJ8BOFV&amp;amp;keywords=Philip+Tetlock&amp;amp;qid=1697558700&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;sprefix=philip+tetlock+%2Cstripbooks%2C101&amp;amp;sr=1-1 Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction]'' which has some fascinating information based on the reviews and videos I watched concerning this matter. And the book has received a lot of positive reviews by various people involved in forecasting.&lt;br /&gt;
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You may find the below information interesting as well:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/how-to-predict-the-future/588040/ The Peculiar Blindness of Experts] - Credentialed authorities are comically bad at predicting the future. But reliable forecasting is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnj61KSOhM Professor Philip Tetlock on His Groundbreaking Research About 'Expert Judgment'] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73A-HB-08M Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?] by Philip Tetlock - video&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Political-Judgment-Good-Know/dp/0691128715/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1256588850&amp;amp;sr=8-1 Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?] by Philip E. Tetlock, Princeton University Press; New Ed edition (August 20, 2006)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:30, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Please note:''' I just created the essay: [[Essay: An ego-deflating bonanza of self-declared Russia experts and international relations experts is going to occur. It will be a popping of their huge egos of biblical proportions!]]. It features a catchy tune I created! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:17, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No worries, man. Happy to help. Here's to a reality-based media diet and dealing with the world as is. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:13, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I recently came across this: [https://ground.news/ Ground news] - 50,000 sources. See: [https://www.youtube.com/@ground_news/videos Ground News - YouTube].  Rates stories by right/left leaning as far as coverage. &lt;br /&gt;
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But I realize there are more dimensions to news than merely right/left. For example, East/West, national, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also come across [https://voxday.net/2016/12/26/the-iq-delta/ this information] written by someone with an IQ of 150+ regarding VHIQ (Very high IQ people) and UHIQ (Ultra high IQ people) which I alluded to in an email:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''1.''' VHIQ inclines towards binary either/or thinking and taking sides. UHIQ inclines towards probabilistic thinking and balancing between contradictory possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''2.''' VHIQ seeks understanding towards application or justification, UHIQ seeks understanding towards holistic understanding.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''3.''' VHIQ refines the original thought of others, UHIQ synthesizes multiple original thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''4.''' VHIQ rationalizes logical conclusions, UHIQ accepts logical conclusions. This is ironic because VHIQ considers itself to be highly logical, UHIQ considers itself to be investigative.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I realize that there is more to understanding things than just IQ such as knowledge, wisdom, moral development, etc. looking at things intelligently does apply to understanding politics. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in WWII you had the Nazis vs. Soviets. In this conflict, you had two bad parties against each other so #1 above would apply. Given that I think that both Ukraine/Russia are both corrupt/authoritarian to varying degrees (which is not surprising given their shared cultural/historical past), I can't say that I am a partisan on this issue. I would just like the war in Ukraine to end as quickly and peacefully as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe someday I will take an IQ test. :) &lt;br /&gt;
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But first, I am working on improving the below factors:&lt;br /&gt;
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What is IQ or intelligence?&lt;br /&gt;
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When we use the term intelligence, we usually refer to academic or cognitive intelligence. Cognitive ability is defined as the mental capacity to do the following: &lt;br /&gt;
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*Storing and retrieving information&lt;br /&gt;
*Problem-solving&lt;br /&gt;
*Reading&lt;br /&gt;
*Abstract thinking &lt;br /&gt;
*Reasoning &lt;br /&gt;
*Complex idea thinking &lt;br /&gt;
*Planning &lt;br /&gt;
*Learning from experience[https://irisreading.com/is-memory-a-sign-of-intelligence-quick-facts/#:~:text=Is%20good%20memory%20an%20indicator,necessarily%20correlated%20with%20high%20intelligence.]&lt;br /&gt;
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I am in the midst of covering some material on memory improvement, creativity, problem solving, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:45, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The smartest people I've come across generally display the following:&lt;br /&gt;
:#Natural curiosity&lt;br /&gt;
:#Discernment re. quality of sources / inputs&lt;br /&gt;
:#Strong analytic processes&lt;br /&gt;
:#A willingness to accept conclusions thus derived, even when it conflicts with their priors&lt;br /&gt;
:#The ability to accept complexity and nuance, even when it renders their conclusions more vague / less useful than they were hoping&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:52, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
=== Russian defector reveals that a 'majority' of people inside the Kremlin are unhappy with the war in Ukraine ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-26/russia-defector-reveals-many-kremlin-members-unhappy-war-730/102526452 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], Australian Broadcasting Corporation, June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeZRN6YrN0 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], ABC News video, July 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Moscow Grand Kremlin Palace3.jpg|center|thumbnail|400px|The Grand Kremlin Palace is a building in the Moscow Kremlin.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Moscow Kremlin is a fortified complex in the center of Moscow. The Moscow Kremlin now serves as the official residence of the Russian president and as a museum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Attention:&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;'''  The unhappiness situation is dire in Russia. I suggest you approach the Kremlin about putting bouncy castles in Red Square. &lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HnlKngrb4 Vlad and Niki play in Inflatable Castle and other funny challenges for kids]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:57, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Happily, though, Putin is every bit as mortal as the rest of us and growing older and older each day. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:08, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But who is the replacement? He might be worse. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:14, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The uncertainty re. what happens next is likely one of the key reasons why the Western alliance has adopted a strategy of slowly boiling the frog. A sudden, chaotic collapse could get very ugly, very quickly. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:04, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please read this essay, ConwayIII ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See: [[Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]] —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 08:42, October 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I made updates to my essay at: Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Russia map flag-overlay (1).png|thumbnail|600px|center|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Please read:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope it's a sunny day where you are. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, October 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Avdiivka cauldron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Avdiivka cauldron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Starting to look like a textbook cauldron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
War is not like Hollywood, where everything gets resolved in 60 minutes or after the next commercial break. The Avdiiivka cauldron is somewhat reminiscent of the good 'ol days of [[Stalingrad]]. Pray for any Nazis captured alive who have served there anytime between 2014 and now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:57, October 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, man. Because Stalingrad was such a famously quick &amp;amp; rousing victory for the invading army and one that - even more famously - totally turned the tide of war in their favour.&lt;br /&gt;
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:In other news, given your boys have already lost about a brigade's worth of kit just trying to get the first lot of those red arrows going, I'm more than happy for them to keep tilting at this particular windmill. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:49, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You need [https://youtu.be/eREr43Xl7ck to see HistoryLegends take on it]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:56, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Update: [https://youtu.be/3MsVOeUXWBY Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Battlefield Ukraine The Cauldron of the Apocalypse]. 12:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It's my sad duty to inform you that you have the research skills and information diet of a Z-addled dung beetle, my man. I salute your determination n' all, but no matter how big it gets, it's still just a great big ball of guff you're rolling round the wiki.  [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I thought &amp;quot;Cauldron of the Apocalypse&amp;quot; might be a bit much, but when the [[Avdiivka meatgrinder]] does fall, the AFU, [[Zelensky]] regime, [[Kharkiv]] and Odessa won't be far behind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:41, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You're developing a positively Millerite penchant for Great Disappointments. At least it gives me [https://www.yardgallery.com/father-ted-series-1-episode-1-reality-bb0054-c some ideas for your Christmas present] this year. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:02, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Ok, I'll give up one of my most reliable sources: [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-102423-avdeevka-victories SITREP 10/24/23: Avdeevka Victories Confirmed]. 02:39, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Russian propaganda already [https://youtu.be/iFl73rMR-wQ preparing the population for the need to retake Odessa.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::So which will we see first?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::a) [[Teheran]] get [[nuke]]d?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::b) Helicopters taking off from the roof of the US embassy in [[Kyiv]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Update from ''Ukrayinska Pravda'' (a Nazi propaganda organ): ''[https://news.yahoo.com/kharkiv-oblast-announce-forced-evacuation-183540252.html Kharkiv Oblast to announce forced evacuation of families with children]'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:00, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Update: Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Battlefield Ukraine [https://youtu.be/XCVf2PBH0Cw Russian Cauldron of Doom Tightens]. Report: 8,000 encircled now, Zelensky orders Zaluzhnyi to hold it at all costs, ready to dump in another 30,000 on a suicide mission. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:35, October 26, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Clearer minds would note that the SMO has now devolved to the point where its enthusiasts are giddily anticipating full control (!) over the Avdiivka coke plant's slag heap. If you want an accurate fall-from-greatness vibe, just picture Mike Tyson when he was so washed-up he had to earn his crust staging sparring exhibitions in Vegas hotel lobbies while fat tourists shuffled past, uncaring. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 22:41, October 26, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::[[Patrick Lancaster]] under fire from [[Avdiivka]], June 15, 2022. [https://youtu.be/Nl5WWmKgCaQ Journalists Come Under Ukraine Artillery Fire In Donetsk Suburb]. Civilian residents have been subjected to this for 9 1/2 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:55, October 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::[https://t.me/geopolitics_live/8563 &amp;quot;The town is a strategic point for the whole Donbass front...When it falls, the Donbass front is going to shatter like glass...Once Avdeevka is out of the way, Russia will be able to move in any direction that they want for as far as they want...It’s one of the strongest positions that’s ever been built in this war...Once it’s taken, the Ukrainians aren’t going to have any defensive positions that can anywhere near match what they built up in Avdeevka over almost nine years of reinforcing it”]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, October 28, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::[https://worldsnewsnow.com/all-forces-go-into-the-cauldron-zelensky-wants-to-personally-command-the-defense-of-avdiivka-in-the-world-policy/ All forces go into the “cauldron”. Zelensky wants to personally command the defense of Avdiivka]. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yah, a comedic actor is more qualified to command troops at a crucial moment than Corporal Hitler (German officers were correct in the First World War - Hitler wasn't fit for the rank of Sargeant even after 4 years at the front). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:07, October 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/7BVH8QPXh8o Ukraine Sends Last Leopard Tanks To Avdiivka Cauldron.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, October 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/0mFXcpiaaQ8 Cauldron practically closed], [https://youtu.be/0WPUEK2r4yw Jaws Of The Bear],  [https://youtu.be/-_3Joe31u_Q Russian Armored Columns STEAMROLL North of Avdiivka], [https://youtu.be/8vJ4FQICYyI NATO's Inevitable Erosion]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:24, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/GTRbhlnyQRI AFU Found Itself In A Cauldron In AVDIIVKA: Russians Order Them To Surrender To Save Their LIVES]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:56, November 10, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Zerohedge: [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/map-shows-another-key-ukraine-city-almost-fully-encircled-40k-russian-troops Map Shows Another Key Ukraine City Almost Fully Encircled By 40K Russian Troops]. Oh-oh. If Zerohedge is reporting factual news, [[CNBC]] maybe next. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:03, November 12, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, do you have information that debunks what RobSmith wrote above or are you just making an assumption RobSmith is wrong based on the &amp;quot;Captain Cauldron episode&amp;quot;? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:44, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whatsamatta? Your own research skills failing you now? Here, add this to your collection of racist crap from the [[Haushofer school of geopolitics]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Fox_10-24-23.PNG|right|1500px|thumb|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''[https://www.foxnews.com/media/population-rate-decline-us-triggers-economic-alarms-experts-calamitous-effect CDC data, between 2007 and 2022, the U.S. birth rate fell by 22%. Not a single state reported an increase in birth rates].&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:49, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rob is just wishcasting at the minute. As far as I'm aware, he's yet to claim this one as another glorious imaginary victory. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::RobSmith sees this war as a glorious war that Russia is winning. The reality is that this war of attrition is making Russia's demographic crisis worse. It's a reflection of Russia's degenerate autocracy that Putin launched this war and wishes to continue it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeZRN6YrN0 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], ABC News video, July 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:39, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Conway, Ignore him. He's [[gossip]]ing again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:38, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Is it too early to do a post mortem?===&lt;br /&gt;
Here's one, expressed fully, that I've been saying for more than a year already:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;Ukraine was defeated by its own Western propaganda.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''After the very military-strategically brilliant and gutsy move to pullback Russian forces from Kiev last year in order to shorten lines and concentrate all forces in a much smaller area, the Western pro-Ukrainian propaganda mills went into overdrive. They thought Russia was ‘on the run’ and had hoped that they could deliver a final “finishing blow” by way of propaganda, which would collapse Russian societal morale and lead to some kind of overthrow that would end the SMO.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But these people sadly knew very little about military doctrine or strategy. What Russia did was carry out an absolutely simple and pedantic textbook reorientation of forces with a clear logic. In fact, that moment should have been an extremely chilling maneuver for Ukraine. It should have signaled: “Uh oh…this means Russia is taking its gloves off.” The initial thunder-run on Kiev was merely a brazen attempt to avoid bloodshed and see if the conflict could be ended fast and early. But not having worked, Russian military planners clearly knew that now the entire operation had to be shifted into actual war footing, rather than mere enhanced special operations raid.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Everything changed from that point on. Pro-Ukrainians should have keyed in on this and realized the heavyweight was now removing his gloves. But instead, what they did was run with the propaganda that Russia is a defeated, cowardly, inept, and completely helpless paper tiger. This propaganda “worked” incredibly well, too well—but the problem is, it worked on the wrong side.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Instead of convincing Russians of it, it convinced the Ukrainians and Western public that the war had already been won, that Russia could never recover from this brutal “loss” (which was not a loss in the slightest but a strategic maneuver and concentration of forces). Since then, no one in Ukrainian society thought to take the war seriously anymore and Ukraine’s own “rear” end had dropped out, while Russia’s rear in fact throttled up into overdrive, in terms of the galvanization of society to supporting the troops and military machine top to bottom.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''In fact, this will be studied for generations as an example of a massive propaganda fail—a propaganda campaign which destroyed its own side by way of inadequate attenuation and nuanced micromanagement of perceptions. They instead did a bruteforce method of flooding every which way without concerning themselves with who the propaganda was actually negatively affecting.: [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/time-magazine-profile-depicts-grim]&lt;br /&gt;
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One for the history books, as we write the narratives. [[NATO]] thought it could win the war on [[propaganda]] alone.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:26, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The advance on Kiev served two purposes: (1) to retrieve the elements of a [[dirty nuke]] fabricated with [[Chernobyl]] waste being assemble at Kiev's main airport; (2) to pressure Zelensky into the Istanbul negotiations where he caved into Russian demands to implement the [[Minsk Accords]] with a few additional demands. Even after Zelensky saw how Biden told the Afghan National Government to &amp;quot;fake it&amp;quot; when they were getting their butts kicked, Zelensky fell for Biden's messenger boy, [[Boris Johnson]], promise to stay in the fight with $60 billion bribe. Greed was Zelensky's motivation for betraying the peace deal negotiated with the Russians, not national pride, honor, or democracy, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Russians never had any plans to assault the city of Kiev, population 3 million, with a 40,000 man force. That idea is, and was ludicrous. &lt;br /&gt;
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Moral of the story: Beware of propaganda. It can be deadly. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:39, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Now I know why someone wants to be a tyrant and greatly restrict my online reading! It's not ever going to happen! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot;|Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;According to data put out by the Russian Statistics Service 22.6 percent of Russian households aren't connected to a sewer system, most of them in rural areas. Russian commentators are divided about how vital an achievement modern toilets are.&amp;quot; - [https://www.eurotopics.net/en/217691/what-do-outdoor-toilets-tell-us-about-russia# What do outdoor toilets tell us about Russia?], ''Euro Topics Press Review'', April 3, 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|The letter of Mergen Mongush from Moscow (“Not the Kremlin line, but an ordinary Russian’s view”, October 7) is very misleading. Most desirable high-end retail products in Russian shops are well beyond the purchasing power of the vast majority of Russians outside of Moscow and St Petersburg, as totalitarian Russia has the highest wealth disparity of any large country. The wealth of Tatarstan, Tyumen and many other areas is funnelled to a small elite of Russians in cities that are not producing this wealth, while these regions remain impoverished.&lt;br /&gt;
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When, for example, Russian troops invaded at Irpin and Bucha, close to Kyiv, they were shocked to see, in ordinary Ukrainian homes, huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, internal toilets and other goods that are luxuries for them. So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia.&lt;br /&gt;
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Russia may have greater wealth as a country, but most Ukrainians live better than the average Russian.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/ILpVs Letter: Russia’s looting soldiers tell real story of its economy], ''Financial Times'', October 20, 2023&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/ILpVs Letter: Russia’s looting soldiers tell real story of its economy], ''Financial Times'', October 20, 2023&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Flag of Ukraine.png|thumbnail|500px|center|Next time you see a Ukrainian flag, remember not only does Ukraine have beautiful blue skies and majestic plains of wheat, but there are ordinary Ukrainian homes with huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, and internal toilets - goods that are luxuries to Russian, soldier looters!]] &lt;br /&gt;
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I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:48, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is funny because it's true. Porcelain dreams of civilisation ftw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:53, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::RobSmith is angry that I once again flushed his flawed political opinions down the proverbial toilet. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at my personal user space where RobSmith bitterly complained that I don't restrict my reading to news sources that he personally approves: [[User talk:Conservative/Political news and various articles]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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::By the way, isn't the ''Financial Times'' published in the UK/Britain? Did I ever tell you that I appear to have British ancestry? &lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule, Britannia! Britannia co-rule the world's soft power with its special friend the USA that whom it has a special relationship with! Britons never will be slaves! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:06, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Russian society: Social stability is threatened by a lack of toilets in rural areas? Russian commentators are divided! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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UK pundits at Times Radio thought the war in Ukraine may bring Putin's regime down. Could it be the lack of indoor toilets in many rural Russian homes? Those sneaky Western capitalists with their soft power are so cunning! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:16, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You are invited to join a true conservative organization at: [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association]]. Please sign up. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 12:12, October 28, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks.  Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter. Russia's interest rate doubles and is now 15%. Russia's ruble is having PROBLEMS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 31, 2023, I found out that China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks.  Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBqhi1N0U2Q China Latest: Manufacturing Unexpectedly Shrinks, Services Miss Estimates]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcRfYeFi4w CHINA Manufacturing CRASHES in October as Output Unexpectedly Shrinks &amp;amp; Economic Problems Continue]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''This means trouble for Russia may soon be on the horizon:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The ruble is turning to rubble:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4FOtzQo1o RUSSIAN Ruble Collapse Panic Continues as Russia DOUBLES Interest Rates to 15%]&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like my knowledge of international politics and economics is better than someone claims! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:59, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of coarse Chinese manufacturing would shrink as it loses the US market and prices at [[Walmart]] rise; however this is compensated for by increased drone, artillery, cruise missile and other military equipment (which the US, EU, and NATO cannot compete with cause they have no manufacturing base left nor an educated workforce with skills to operate factory machinery) production then supplied to Russia and Iran via North Korea. But User:Conservative still thinks this is 1991 and there is no war. He's yet to grasp the global changes that were apparant in April 2022 when NATO rejected [[diplomacy]] and decided to escalate war with Russia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree with Prof. John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago who preaches the [[Realist school of international relations]] - there is no going back to March 2022. We cannot underestimate the scale of the disaster we created for ourselves. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:12, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't think I didn't notice that you failed to provide actual evidence that China's loss of manufacturing out is &amp;quot;compensated for by increased drone, artillery, cruise missile and other military equipment&amp;quot;. Because I did notice. And what is even crazier about your claim is that any military hardware manufacturing is manufacturing and China still had a manufacturing drop. &lt;br /&gt;
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::News story from non-Western source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la9HMosSCtM China's factory activity contracts in blow to economic momentum].  Speaking of blows, here's a quote that fits China's communist economic planners: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” - Mike Tyson. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:10, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::''Wall Street Journal'''s [[Singapore]] news bureau: [https://archive.md/UceXR#selection-4277.0-4277.44 China’s Economy Shows Fresh Signs of Slowing]. If only communist China were more like the prosperous and free country Singapore which is a great country for expats to raise a family in as I show [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_a_Westerner_falling_for_Russian_propaganda_is_like_a_man_who_is_seduced_by_a_corrupt_300_pound_woman HERE]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:23, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Defense conversion takes time as a nation reorders its priorities after [[Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come]]. The US doesn't have the educated workforce to work in machine factories, let alone the infrastructure itself. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:48, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The choice here is kinda up to [[NATO]], if it wants to end its [[warmonger]]ing over the next two years or so and make peace with the victorious powers, or continue its aggression. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:55, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::[https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/how-china-will-punch-out-our-lights How China Will Punch Out Our Lights]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:58, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am very bearish about China's long-term economy. I hope you didn't invest in a Russian company that plans on selling a whole lot of oil to China in the long-term future   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I used to be bearish about China's long-term economy, but now I am very bearish. &lt;br /&gt;
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Read my new essay at: [[Essay: It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy|It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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I hope you didn't invest in a Russian company that plans on selling a whole lot of oil to China in the long-term future (See: [[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines|Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin]] is [[Xi Jinping]]'s &amp;quot;friend for life&amp;quot;. I feel so sorry for him! See: [[Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future|Why I am not bullish on Russia's future]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Very bearish about China's long-term economic prospects.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economic prospects.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IV9U_F8rI Japan's Recession Was Bad. China's Will Be So Much Worse.]&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Andy Schlafly told me that you are &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot;. As far as their economic prospects for the foreseeable future, I am guessing that you aren't very bullish on the future of China and Russia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We've talked previously about China's structural problems. I still suspect they have the financial / political wherewithal to engineer a soft(ish) landing, but the current [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67191262 Evergrande mess] neatly encapsulates the dilemma they face in trying to do so. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:28, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for a collaboration re: the essay at &amp;quot;Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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As I mentioned above, Andy Schlafly told me that you are &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in helping write the essay at: [[User:Conservative/Essay: Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition|Essay: Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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It would be a collaborative essay between the two of us. Alternatively, you could certainly write the essay yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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So far I have some of the initial sources/research done.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:32, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An alternative essay to the essay above could be: [[Essay: Russian military defeats in history]]. Alternatively, both essays could be written. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:33, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Out of material already, huh? It's hard to continue when you invent &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; out of your butt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:37, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Evidence suggest User:Conservative's obsession with Russia is motivated by a spirit of vindictiveness and hate toward a fellow Conservapedia, not by any animosity toward Russia. User:Conway!!! has not exhibited such irrational behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let's take your latest screed on alcoholism in Russia, for example. Is the basic underlying argument that Russia should convert to [[fentanyl]] as the [[United States]] has, as direct threat to public health? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, please disregard the above notice.  I just wrote the essay at: [[Essay: Russia getting pummeled in wars in Russian history that hyper Russophiles will not tell you about]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:25, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Apologies for the delayed response. I think it makes an important historical point. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:18, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why I don't wet my pants every night due to Russian, sabre rattling, nuclear war threats ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is yet another reason why I don't wet my pants every night due to Russian, sabre rattling, nuclear war threats:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12193309/Putins-administration-staff-starting-day-bottle-vodka.html Putin's administration staff 'are starting the day with a bottle of vodka and Security Council's Dmitry Medvedev is often drunk when he writes his apocalyptic threats of nuclear war'], Daily Mail, June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://nypost.com/2023/06/14/putins-staff-start-each-day-with-bottle-of-vodka-report/ Putin’s ‘stressed’ administration staff start each day with bottle of vodka: report], NY Post, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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Sweet dreams tonight. I hope you don't have any nightmares about nuclear war. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:19, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yah, I saw that. War propaganda if there ever was any. This is how Western [[MSM]] is trying to prepare the public and soften the blow for the news it lost in the Ukraine war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:21, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even if true (which it isn't) only a [[brainwashed]] fool would sleep easier knowing a bunch of drunks and a demented individual have their fingers on the [[nuke]]. Case study in the effects of propaganda, and delivering its intent on its targets. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As Sam Garrens says, propaganda begins from the premise that you are stupid, and User:Conservative cut n pasting these links to several pages bears this out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:33, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:15, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the invite, but:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Good luck, though. If sanity ever prevails, I'm definitely up for sending Rob's fan fiction [https://ahc.leeds.ac.uk/discover-dante/doc/inferno/page/5 back where it belongs.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:58, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fan fiction is important for &amp;quot;narrative development&amp;quot;. RobSmith complains that I don't spend enough time on narrative development as far as main page right news. While I do like the story of Alice in Wonderland, I do prefer reality over fictional stories/narratives. &lt;br /&gt;
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::He also finds my view of the war in Ukraine &amp;quot;uninspiring&amp;quot; which I gave a response to [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:_Doomsday_phobias_-_including_nucleomituphobia_caused_by_Russian_threats_to_use_a_nuclear_bomb&amp;amp;diff=2003247&amp;amp;oldid=2003246 HERE]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:04, November 12, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Doomsday phobias - including nucleomituphobia caused by Russian threats to use a nuclear bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Symptoms of necleomituphobia.jpg|thumbnail|center|700px|The symptoms of nucleomituphobia are given above.[http://www.changethatsrightnow.com/nucleomituphobia/symptoms/] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Try not to think too much about the possibility of nuclear annihilation throughout the day if you read this essay in the morning. Cheers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:48, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am helping get the word out about how significant February 2020 was on the future of global politics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please read: [[Essay: February 2022 might prove to be a pivotal moment in the future of global politics]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Let me know what you think. I am a big fan of the French historian Ferdinand Braudel. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel Fernand Braudel]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Annales-school Annales school of history]: &amp;quot;Annales school, School of history. Established by Lucien Febvre (1878–1956) and Marc Bloch (1886–1944), its roots were in the journal Annales: économies, sociétés, civilisations, Febvre’s reconstituted version of a journal he had earlier formed with Marc Bloch. Under Fernand Braudel’s direction the Annales school promoted a new form of history, replacing the study of leaders with the lives of ordinary people and replacing examination of politics, diplomacy, and wars with inquiries into climate, demography, agriculture, commerce, technology, transportation, and communication, as well as social groups and mentalities. While aiming at a “total history,” it also yielded dazzling microstudies of villages and regions. Its international influence on historiography has been enormous.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Flag of France.png|thumbnail|275px|center|'''Questions:''' '''1)''' Does [[User: Conservative]] have a French heritage? '''2)''' Is User: Conservative a fan of [https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel Fernand Braudel] ?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]] wrote: &amp;quot;Those of low estate are but a breath, those of high estate are a delusion; in the balances they go up; they are together lighter than a breath.&amp;quot; - [[Psalm]] 62:9 (NRSV).&lt;br /&gt;
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Long live the Annales school of history! Vive la France! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:50, November 13, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ahh, these guys were a bunch of socialists, ya know. But that's ok; User:Conservative's mind is so brainwashed and polluted at this stage, it doesn't really make a difference anymore. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:58, November 13, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Under Braudel’s direction the Annales school acquired a global reputation for promoting a new form of history. It replaced the study of leaders with the lives of ordinary people and supplanted the hallowed trio of politics, diplomacy, and wars with inquiries into climate, demography, agriculture, commerce, technology, transportation, and communication, as well as social groups and mentalities. '''Annales history further challenged the reductionism of the Marxists''' and the structuralism of the social sciences, its main competitors at the vanguard of postwar historiography. It aimed at a “total history” that relied heavily on quantification and also yielded dazzling microstudies of villages and regions. Braudel’s most significant contribution was his three-tiered view of historical time. Conceived while he was in captivity in 1944, it consisted of very long, practically immobile environmental time (the longue durée); the medium time of economies, societies, and cultures; and the short time of discrete events (the subject of histoire événementielle). Far from a simple flow, human experience was registered on all three clocks, operated with speed-ups and delays, and left a vast range of physical as well as mental traces.&amp;quot;[https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:20, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goodreads: [https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/183811.The_Marxism_Annales_World_System_Synthesis The Marxism-Annales-World System Synthesis]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:33, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I clicked the link. Lacks evidential support for your assertion and shows that you are very desperate! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:09, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay Mr. Ace Researcher: both Febvre &amp;amp; Braudel lived and worked under the [[Vichy regime]]; show me an original source document (in French or any other language) that explains where and what these guys were doing in the timeframe of 1940-1944, and by what means they were supported. It shouldn't be too hard, mapping the history of historians. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So if you can't prove they were associated with the [[Comintern]] or getting covert U.S. funding aid, then they must've have been Nazi-collaborators with the Vichy regime through a state-funded educational institution.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:16, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
With Braudel, you are attempting to use the guilt by association logical fallacy in spite of the fact that I gave you actual evidence via Encyclopedia Britannica (namely the Annales school of history &amp;quot;challenged the reductionism of the Marxists&amp;quot;). Your [[guilt by association]] logical fallacy tactic failed miserably when the rubber meets the road. You tried to make the businessman [[Bill Browder]] a hardcore communist, but that crashed and burned when you couldn't find a single source. Also, your illogical fallacy of composition &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; is equally a big failure. For example, just because I cited Zeihan about Russian demographics means that I necessarily agree with everything he claims and that I don't understand some of his weaknesses like his overreliance on geography, demographics, economic factors and his other faults (The same applies to Mearsheimer who I also don't agree with 100%). &lt;br /&gt;
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But your greatest weakness is your lack of integrity which displays itself by making things up that you know are lies (Gossiping, Bill Browder is allegedly an avowed communist, and there are supposedly multiple sources that claim something when you know there are not such as the [[Karen Dawisha]] article). Everyone knows you are a liar and that is why you are not respected (But is also due to your abusive nature). And when I thought you could go no lower than being a pathological liar, you surprised even me by transforming yourself into high school girl-like gossiper with idiotic, far-fetched gossip so now I see you as being pathetically weak. As a result of your lack of integrity, you often engage in denialism (historical revisionism, etc.) because once someone lies to others prolifically, they naturally lie to themselves prolifically as well. Your attempt to whitewash Ivan the Terrible and Vladmir Putin are great examples of this as is your attempt to make Russia, which has low church attendance, big problems with alcoholism/AIDS, high divorce/abortion rates and a low fertility rate into some kind of holy nation.  In addition, you pretend that Peter Zeihan is the only person whose work I cited about Russian demography, but that is untrue as evidenced by my citation of the Russian demographer Salavat Abylkalikov (See: [[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]). I can accept cold hard truths such as US/Western foibles/weaknesses, but you can't do the same with Russia and China. For example, show me a nation that dramatically turned around its low fertility rate into a replacement fertility rate in the 21st century. You can't do it. The highest correlation with a replacement level of births in a population is religiosity and Russians are obviously not a holy nation.  &lt;br /&gt;
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My biggest mistake was interacting with you too much via talk pages, etc.  I am not going to make that mistake again. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 13:19, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Looks like you have Strike 2 now after personal attacks and an attempt at doxxing. [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/block&amp;amp;page=User%3AConwayIII] &lt;br /&gt;
If you wish to remain an editor in good standing and not convert this account into just another throwaway sockpuppet, I suggest you settle down and begin some productive editing when you return from your 2 day block. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:59, December 15, 2021 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Would anybody like some more irony? There's plenty left if anyone can manage a second helping?&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''FYI, [[User_talk:Aschlafly#We_need_to_recruit_editors]]. Best wishes (and maybe DFTT), -Sanny [[User:CptSandra|CptSandra]] ([[User talk:CptSandra|talk]]) 09:36, February 23, 2022 (EST)''&lt;br /&gt;
:I realised a while ago that Andy, Rob and Ben don't actually want more editors here, despite occasional protestations to the contrary. At first, I think it was a kind of stubborn if-we-build-it-they-will-come that prevented any serious effort at promotion &amp;amp; recruitment, but as the years rolled by, they just grew to really, really love defining their own reality with as little pushback or compromise as possible. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 21:14, February 23, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
''I know nothing of Ben but I'm liking you already; Andy seems OK but I'm genuinely worried for RobS: invited to diagnose him, my cod-psychological pronouncement would be non-reactive psychosis, Hitlerian subtype.  Is it me or is he obsessed by Nazism?  Anyone that full of piss and vinegar must have serious problems off-line - I hope he feels able to reach out when the time comes. -S [[User:CptSandra|CptSandra]] ([[User talk:CptSandra|talk]]) 15:27, February 24, 2022 (EST) PS: He hasn't created [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:CptSandra&amp;amp;action=edit&amp;amp;redlink=1] yet; if he does, might you second me in the debate?  No pressure: I have a fallback, but I'd prefer it to be you.  Could be fun, though I suspect he's not biting (in that sense, anyway).''&lt;br /&gt;
:At my current rate of spurious blocks, I advise you look for a more reliable presence in your corner. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:07, February 27, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Making personal comments about family members is little different than doxxing. Please refrain from that conduct in the future. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Let's Go Brandon!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:40, April 22, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Southfront==&lt;br /&gt;
Have you tried trolling the Southfront discussion group yet? My two favorites are NATO fags like high heels and lipstick, and BanderiteLivesDontMatter.  I dont' think the username Bioweapons &amp;quot;R&amp;quot; Us is taken yet.  C'mon, show some cahoonies now. You can run with the big boys.  [https://southfront.org/did-russia-really-capture-canadian-general-in-mariupol/] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:No need, man. I'm getting sufficient vitamin Z and practically OD-ing on fresh lunacy just from watching you smear your faeces all over the walls, windows &amp;amp; doors of Andy's formerly &amp;quot;Christian&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
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:If he'll let you [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template%3AMainpageright&amp;amp;diff=1860826&amp;amp;oldid=1860796 get away with posting this on MPR], you could probably forcibly teabag him in front of his wife, post a picture of the deed in place of the Conservapedia logo and still have him thank you for your service. Remarkable stuff. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:57, May 23, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[https://youtu.be/zGsiFyaFUbQ BREAKING: NATO Member Turkey to Invade Syria].  What's your take on this? Think Turkiye will acquiesce on Finland joining NATO in exchange for a little NATO help fighting Russia in Syria? How will the world react to another NATO [[war of aggression]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, May 23, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::My take is Erdogan would love to never hear about the plight of the Kurds again and also to be given free rein re. the PKK and YPG. He's ''probably'' reconciled to not getting that, despite his rhetoric, and is angling instead for a reboot of the F-35 deal, plus Patriots. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 15:04, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Patriots? He already bought the S-400 a few years ago (a superior weapon). That should have gave you a heads up there were problems within NATO and its wrong-headed &amp;quot;Russian Spring&amp;quot; designs back when Obama was approving Victoria Nuland, Samantha Power, Hillary Clinton, Jake Sullivan, and Antony Blinken's psychotic fantasies. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:22, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::So, as NATO prepares aggressive actions against Transnistria and Lviv from Poland and Romania, Hungary declares a state of emergency. [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/hungary-declares-wartime-state-emergency]  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:09, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Patriots. That's the current line out of Ankara, along with a hurt feelings claim they'd've never bought the S-400 if Patriots had been forthcoming when requested. No idea re. the truth of that, but it's an obvious way to frame it as a blunder by the Trump administration (2017) that needs fixing. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:12, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Wait. Stop. Think momentarily (however difficult). If NATO exists to defend the planet against Russia, and Turkey, NATO's largest manpower constituent group purchases Russian most modern advanced weapons from Russia to defend Turkey against Russia, what the hell do we need NATO for, then? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:37, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::So whom did Turkey purchase the S-400 system to defend against? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:40, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::&amp;lt;hint&amp;gt; To shoot down F-35 aircraft of NATO ally Greece. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:56, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::So again, why do we keep pouring $700 billion into the US Defense budget to keep the NATO house of cards alive?  And no, the &amp;quot;Russian bogeyman&amp;quot; that created the alliance no longer is a valid excuse or response. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:00, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/henry-kissinger-tells-davos-elite-to-give-in-to-russia Breaking: Kissinger tells WEF that NATO should throw in the towel]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:03, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Erdogan doing stupid stuff isn't the knockdown argument against NATO you're looking for. He got rebuffed for latest-gen kit from the US, felt slighted, and went and petulantly bought latest-gen kit from Russia. Works fine by Occam's razor and fits well with his increasingly weird &amp;amp; cranky nature. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::In other news, Kissinger reliably informed us there was zero chance of the Soviet Union collapsing. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:12, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Maybe Kissinger was talking about Soviet military power. The [[KGB]] went out of business in 1991, the [[GRU]] did not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Ok, so some may say Turkish S-400 are for shooting down Israeli aircraft, theoretically yes, in reality no, not unless Turkey was building its own nukes. While there is talk of a joint Saudi-Egypt-Turkish bomb to counter Iran, would Israel oppose that?  Anyway, we have no suspicions it's underway.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::So, again, when you read years ago that Turkey bought Russian weapons to shoot down NATO aircraft, you should have had enough brains to realize then the NATO alliance was dead. And Obama killed it (wittingly or unwittingly; I think wittingly). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:25, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::[https://findit.library.yale.edu/images_layout/thumbnails?parentoid=11781574 H. Kissinger being impressively wrong about stuff, Jan 14, 1988.] &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::I've nowt to add re. motives for acquiring the S-400 and refer you back to my previous comments on Occam's razor and Erdogan himself. Feel free to keep spinning yourself another NATO-is-dead yarn, though. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:40, May 24, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::A &amp;quot;Kissinger was wrong argument&amp;quot; makes zero sense in 1988 and even less sense now. It's like saying &amp;quot;FDR was wrong&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Lincoln was wrong for freeing the slaves&amp;quot;.  These men shaped the world you live in. That's why we can't disentangle ourselves from China today, cause of Kissinger. Whattaygona do? Dig up his grave after they bury him so you can spit on him?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Sheesh, why do I waste my time talking with idiots.... [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:17, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::So somebody in 1988 says, &amp;quot;hey, it's probably not a good idea to establish trade ties with China,&amp;quot; where are they now? Can they help us get baby milk formula now cause Chinese trade destroyed our ability to produce it? or they just wanna debate how wrong Kissinger was? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:22, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::There's being wrong on points of detail; there's being wrong on some of the fundamentals; and then there's being dogmatically wrong about the entire direction of travel, despite an abundance of evidence to the contrary. It's a common problem with &amp;quot;realists&amp;quot; (cf. Mearsheimer) and seems to worsen as they age. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::The idea of a state as some kind of entity motivated by rational self-interest re. wealth &amp;amp; power works fine until all those epoch-changing moments when it suddenly doesn't, and it's usually pesky human hubris or delusion that makes such a spectacular mess of all the theorising. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:19, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::::Good. I'm glad you understood my point. This is not an academic debate. This is the school of realism. Now, why don't your sources report on the imminent collapse of (a) the Ukrainian military, and (b) the Ukrainian state?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Bottomline: (a) The pre-2014 borders will never exist again; (b) there will be no negotiations, as the ''NYT'', ''London Telegraph'', Zelensky, Kissinger and others are calling for NOW, unless the RF agrees to sit down at the table. Do you really think Biden, NATO, the West, the EU, or UN can force Russia to the table now, or anytime this summer? Russia will come to the table when its prepared to sit down, and the Anglo-American &amp;quot;rules based order&amp;quot; collapses at that point, short of nuclear war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Z]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:42, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::::My man, the ambition of the great Donbas &amp;quot;offensive&amp;quot; has been shrinking week by week, so much so that actually securing the remainder of Luhansk region would seem like something of a &amp;quot;victory&amp;quot;. It's not, of course. It's a so-called major power bursting a blood vessel to try &amp;amp; take a small city like Severodonetsk. That's not going to send a chill down anyone's spine. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:19, May 25, 2022 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==So emotional==&lt;br /&gt;
You get so emotional about Paul Pelosi getting hammered in his underwear. I don't get it? It probably wasn't the first time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:39, October 31, 2022 (EDT&lt;br /&gt;
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== A quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your kind words.  The only reason I deleted your note on my talk page is that I have decided to be less forthcoming about my personal life off-wiki. It's better if people underestimate me. :) &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;...when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.&amp;quot; - Sun Tzu :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:25, November 15, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:No worries. I agree it's best to avoid giving people that kind of ammunition. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:44, November 15, 2022 (EST&lt;br /&gt;
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==Don't bother==&lt;br /&gt;
We already got screen shots of it. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:ConwayIII&amp;amp;curid=170256&amp;amp;diff=1910784&amp;amp;oldid=1910705]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do not trivialize and make light humor out of topics like murder and rape ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Special:Diff/1919825|This talk page addition of yours is inappropriate.]] Rather than remove your comment, I put it under a collapse. Do not insert such comments again, or you will be blocked. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;(Mark 8:36)&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 19:26, January 4, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==C'mon, kiddo==&lt;br /&gt;
Get your head out of the sand. We all get snookered by government misinformation once in awhile. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:12, April 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I magine you have some 'splainin to do. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:48, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:By my count, there's probably 70,000+ more dead Ukrainians than Russians since we last talked. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:50, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ukraine didn't have a rebellion with its own tanks going towards its capital. Russia did. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:52, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I called as I saw it with Surovikin in charge: a sensible fighting retreat to the 2014 LOC plus the land bridge. Might've even preserved some offensive potential for later this summer / autumn if it had worked, because Surovikin's not an idiot. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Instead, Putin reinstalled Gerasimov for a kamikaze tilt at Bakhmut that ultimately resulted in Leopards, Patriots, Storm Shadows (!) and F-16s (!!) for Ukraine and Prigozhin's recent thunder run at Moscow (!!!). As for what happens next, you'll know it's getting serious when the Ukrainians decide to drop the Kerch bridge. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:24, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::What about Poland and Belarus? Anything gonna happen there? The Russians already have sabotage teams in Latvia, apparently. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:27, June 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quint?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, you wrote: [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&amp;amp;diff=1962201&amp;amp;oldid=1962199 &amp;quot;Stalin was a sensitive man, eh? You're certifiable, Quint. ConwayIII (talk) 18:45, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&amp;quot; ] &lt;br /&gt;
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What does &amp;quot;Quint&amp;quot; refer to? I know the 1975 shark movie Jaws had a character named Quint. He was the captain of the shark hunting boat. &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me what you meant by Quint.  So far you have managed to stump me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:06, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Mystery solved! [https://thedailyjaws.com/blog/certifiable-analysing-the-mental-health-of-quint-from-jaws Certifiable? Analysing the mental health of Quint from Jaws]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:09, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Aye. That's the fella. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:22, July 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://www.bitchute.com/video/mVDz8UlFYCPF/ A Russian soldier spits the truth.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:11, July 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://videon.img.ria.ru/Out/Flv/20230712/2023_12_07_x07x12x132946_mxb3duft.saq.mp4 Foreign mercenaries flee in terror]. These heroes went straight from the trench to the airport. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:22, July 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page &amp;quot;Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You are invited to the Conservapedia debate page: [[Debate: Who will win the Russo-Ukraine/NATO War?]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:40, August 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The war may be over before the F-16 and Abrams tank get combat tested against Russia's latest weapons, but for the record, the T-90 has withstood attack from the [[NLAW]]. [https://youtu.be/uYc2Ew2E0d0] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:29, August 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Given the special relationship between the UK and USA, I thought I would give you some glad tidings! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the special relationship between the UK and USA, I thought I would give you some glad tidings!&lt;br /&gt;
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Are you ready? Are you sitting down? &lt;br /&gt;
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Here it is: [[Essay: The USA will become bigger, better and stronger than ever before! Russia and China will not! USA! USA! USA!]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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And the next Republican president will strike a big, beautiful trade agreement with the UK! Then you can create the essay: [[Essay: The UK will become bigger, better and stronger than ever before! Russia and China will not! God save the queen!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And with Rishi Sunak's bigger emphasis on numeracy, the Brits will be better able to count all the riches! &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S. I plan on visiting the UK. Maybe we will meet! &lt;br /&gt;
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P.S.S. Pay no attention to Irish-American Joe Biden who has not struck a big, beautiful trade agreement with the UK. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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:Cheers, Ben. Happy to buy you a pint and some [[fish and chips]] if you ever make it over. If you've got sufficient time, you should definitely add [[Lindisfarne]] and Durham Cathedral to your itinerary and then hop over the Pennines and spend a few days in the [[Lake District]]. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:24, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I am pretty pescatarian (vegetarian plus seafood), but I make exceptions such as the holidays. I don't eat chips anymore, but I have pretty good persuasion/negotiation skills and can usually get eating establishments to do a substitute. During these days of rampant food allergies and health-conscious consumers, most eating establishments will accommodate their customers for requests such as these. &lt;br /&gt;
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::How about Shepherd's Pie/Cottage Pie instead of fish and chips? :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Order whatever works best for you, man. If chips are the main issue, though, I can totally recommend a [https://junctionfisheries.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/fishbutty500.jpg fish butty] as an alternative. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:48, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::No french fries or white bread for me. I gave up ultra-processed food and junk food. It's been great.  The only downside is that I buy a lot of my food at a lefty leaning food co-op. :)  I am not overly political so I am just joking. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Regardless, I do hope the USA and UK strike up a trade agreement. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Somewhat recently, I was booked several British authors for a leading podcast (In the top 1/2 percent of podcasts). Some of the British authors are notable (Bestselling authors, etc.). In addition, I was in the middle of negotiations with a British nonprofit to do some work for them and then the pandemic hit. Oh well, you can't land every deal. I do like doing business with Brits. They are unfailingly polite in most cases. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I am guessing I can go to Britain and write some of it off as a business expense, but I will need to talk to an accountant. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:04, August 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Request for feedback on my essay  Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote the essay [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?|Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I give 4 major reasons why this happened. Can you think of any other major reasons? &lt;br /&gt;
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If so, please post them at: [[Talk:Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If I like them, I will add them to the essay. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:45, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I've seen everything now. User:Conservative recruiting Conway as a cheerleader for his Essays. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:57, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why do refer to a certain individual as &amp;quot;Captain Cauldron&amp;quot;? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:49, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:It would be too much to explain. It has to do military strategy and warfare. Stick with [[psychobabble]] where you excell.&lt;br /&gt;
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:What's your obsession with me, anyway? I'm not that good looking. Besides, I want to be appreciated for my mind.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:54, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::He used the phrase &amp;quot;Captain Cauldren&amp;quot; today without explaining the term. There is certainly nothing wrong with intellectual curiosity. &lt;br /&gt;
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::As far as psychology, although social sciences such as psychology and political science are less reliable than the physical sciences such as physics and chemistry, they are not totally useless. For example, my Psychology 101 professor was a cognitive psychologist and thanks to people like him airplane cockpits are designed to be more user-friendly. I also know of a school psychologist in a special need children charter school who has helped a ton of children overcome learning disabilities and other cognitive impairments. I am also friends with a person who lived in a former apartment building I lived in who has schizophrenia and he has been helped by the drugs developed by psychiatrists/psychologists and pharmaceutical companies, but he also said that God and his Christian faith played a big role in helping him too.  Every so often when I am in my old neighborhood, I say hello. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:06, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::He's only been using it for a year+, but you being so [[narcissistic]] and self-absorbed in your vengeance plots, it's not surprising you don't pay any attention to other human beings or what's happening in the world. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
When someone posts about 20+ international relations essays on a website that another person disagrees with, it is not a vengeance plot. Please get a grip on yourself. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:21, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:What are you talking about, this?&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:25, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Targeted sanctions.jpg|right|300px|thumb|''Targetted Sanctions'', from a Moscow art exhibition.]]&lt;br /&gt;
:By my estimation, those two sentences have motivated you to type over 1,000,000 keystrokes (1 million bytes) in well over 400 hours trying to walk back a dumb trolling statement from 18 months ago. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:27, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::My essay writing on international relations started when I noticed someone was being a China/Russia cheerleader and being anti-American. And proclaiming the fiction of a multipolar world. &lt;br /&gt;
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::User: NishantXaivier may have pointed it out first though. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:36, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::There are no &amp;quot;cheerleaders&amp;quot; in a human tragedy; I'm sickened by your disgusting ramblings. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:19, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Just as I suspected. Your reading comprehension and analytical skills are low. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:37, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Actually, besides User: NishantXavier, I think User: LT played a part too. He made me aware of the first quote below:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up.&amp;quot; - RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first.&amp;quot; -  RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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Anyways, to be more precise, sometimes you are aware of something such as a person's China/Russia cheerleading and anti-Americanism, but it takes you a while before it gets under your skin. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:43, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::(ec) In April 2022, I was trying to warn that the [[Biden Junta]] was about to commit [[hari-kari]] with the whole of [[NATO]] and [[Western alliance|Western hegemony]], but you chose to go with the &amp;quot;Putin bad&amp;quot; theory - that you have been bottle fed since [[Obama]] failed to steal [[Sevastopol]] Naval Base from Putin in 2014. You haven't even connected the dots that &amp;quot;Putin bad&amp;quot; is cause Putin made Obama look like a fool. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:46, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, in a court of law, people giving testimony are told to &amp;quot;Give the whole truth and nothing but the truth&amp;quot;. GW Bush, Obama, and Biden can be bad men as far as US-Russia relations, while Putin can be bad too. You are creating a false dilemma and strawman argument.  Putin should have never launched his &amp;quot;special operation&amp;quot; in February of 2022. And I believe you might be able to [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_did_so_many_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_miserably_fail_concerning_their_multipolar_fantasy%3F#A_major_ego-deflating_bonanza_of_self-appointed_geopolitics_experts_is_going_to_occur._It_will_be_a_popping_of_their_huge_egos_of_biblical_proportions.21 see that more clearly in 2030].  Of course, human denialism has no limits so I am not optimistic about this matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Interesting. But I'd be fool if I wasted my time reading your Nazi agitprop. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:22, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Do you want to [[edit war]] some more over Chinese sewage eating? &lt;br /&gt;
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::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:38, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Deny that the Chinese ate gutter oil made from ingredients from processed sewage and lose all credibility. &lt;br /&gt;
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Consuming gutter oil can have negative consequences on people's health. According to experts, gutter oil is extremely toxic and riddled with carcinogens, like aflatoxin and benzopyrene. Consuming gutter oil can also lead to diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's and developmental problems in children.[https://www.southerngreeninc.com/blog/what-is-happening-with-gutter-oil-in-china-and-how-common-is-the-use-of-gutter-oil#:~:text=Consuming%20it%20can%20have%20negative,and%20developmental%20problems%20in%20children.]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2015, Yeh Wen-hsiang, who was the chairman of a Taiwanese company, was sentenced to 22 years imprisonment and fined the equivalent of $1.6 million for selling 243 tonnes of gutter oil. And the mainland Chinese have begun to crack down on gutter oil sales more post 2010 too. However, &amp;quot;Food safety articles funded by PRC provincial science grants attribute continued difficulties in regulatory enforcement to the decentralized nature of the logistics chain, inadequate national infrastructure for disposal/recycling, and frequent innovations in visually and chemically disguising gutter oil.&amp;quot;[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutter_oil]  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:44, October 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: March / April 2022  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, you wrote: &amp;quot;Is this summat to do with your weird (and as far as I can tell, entirely self-serving) theology re. once saved, always saved? Like, if Russia at some point successfully executes your Donbas cauldron fapdream, that somehow makes your bonkers March / April 2022 lies true? Asking on behalf of your sanity and possibly your soul. ConwayIII (talk) 19:34, September 4, 2023 (EDT)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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What are you referring to as far as the months of March/April of 2022? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:30, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Be polite. Show some mercy. I don't think Conway really wants to go back and review his predictions from last winter about the Ukraine counteroffensive. I'm not asking him to do so, and you should show some respect, too. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:35, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::After calling the retreat from Kiev and Kherson and your boys' general ineptitude re. expeditionary warfare, I'm pretty happy with my record to date. The Sevastopol dry docks say hi, btw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Brief note on the withdrawal from Kiev: the advance on Kiev with 40,000 troops had primarily 2 purposes (40,000- men is not enough to take a city of 3 million; they would have needed a force of 300,000): (1) to force Kiev into the Istanbul negotiations; (2) to retrieve nuclear material that the Kiev regime had collected at the Gosomol Airport from the [[Chernobyl]] zone which could be used, or had already been assembled into, a [[dirty bomb]]. Shortly after the capture of the airport, the Russians began their withdrawal from the Kiev region.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here's why retrieval of the dirty bomb scenario is plausible: Americans always prioritize capture of landing fields and strips to transport in more men and material (for example the attack on Donetsk Airport in April 2014 or capture of Kandahar in Afghanistan in 2002); the Russians did not do this, signaling no intent to escalate the situation around Kiev. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:39, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Rob didn't handle the humiliating retreat from Kiev very well. As a result, he got ''very'' excited about Putin's switch to an offensive in the Donbas, which was supposed to capture the entirety of the Luhansk and Donetsk regions. Rob fondly imagined this would prove Russia did, in fact, possess a fearsome war machine capable of expeditionary warfare at scale, and perhaps stop me laughing at him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Russian TV got very excited, too, and the evening bulletins featured maps showing '''projections''' of what this would look like. &lt;br /&gt;
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Rob - idiot, madman or shameless Putin-fellating liar that he is - took these '''projections''' as actual facts on the ground and declared the Donbas cauldron closed and the JFO catastrophically defeated.&lt;br /&gt;
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One small (&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;tiny!&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;) problem: '''this never happened.'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The pincers stalled both north &amp;amp; south and the JFO never came close to being encircled.&lt;br /&gt;
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This bonkers lie is still available for public consumption in various parts of his fan fiction about the war.&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite months of teasing, he categorically refuses to correct it. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 16:42, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You appear to have read [[Christian apologetics]]. Your trilemma reminds of [[C.S. Lewis]]' &amp;quot;Lord, liar or lunatic&amp;quot; trilemma concerning Jesus Christ.[https://www.memoriapress.com/articles/lord-liar-or-lunatic/#:~:text=Lewis%20constructs%20the%20argument%20in,t%20sit%20easy%20with%20him.] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, concerning your above claim, what Conservapedia pages are still not corrected in your estimation? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:14, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Conway: one other tiny problem, the Russians never intended to take Kiev. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::RobS, is Conway's claim true about you not correcting some of your pages on the Donbas Couldron relative to something that never happened? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:18, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::What do you understand about [[maneuver warfare]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:25, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::60,000 [[AFU]] troops have been destroyed in the [[Bradley Square]] cauldron in the past 90 days, if you want to call it that. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::'''Doogie Doo-Doo Alert!''' Keep your nose out of things you don't understand, especially if you have malicious motivations. I'm like Trump or Putin, I hit back twice as hard. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:28, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Classic cauldron warfare calls for total encirclement; in the [[Mariupol cauldron]], the city exists on a lake. With [[ISR]], mass troop movements today are almost impossible. So the Russians encircle on 3 sides in a [[kill zone]], and let [[NATO]] keep feeding in fresh meat for the meatgrinder. So NATO is learning some lessons, hopefully. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:32, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[2022 Special Military Operation in Ukraine - Donbas cauldron|This]] is the most gleefully bonkers. It's so unhinged it even features tactical maps from May 2022 which directly contradict the TV maps / projections from March and April 2022. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:We'll see, if the Russians take [[Dnipro]] in addition to [[Kharkov]]. It may take 3 years, but it forms up as a classic cauldron. With NATO not having the resources, and the US &amp;amp; EU ready to back out, this scenario in the near future appears increasingly likely. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:38, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:That map is no different than the map at the right, which Nazi cheerleaders still have people like you and User:Conservative believing is happening right now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:40, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Now here's the facts: NATO had 120,000 NATO trained troops, nearly half of AFU forces, on the Donbas line of contact since April 2021 showing aggressive intent against civilians and military. Russia responded in February 2022 under Article 51 of the UN Charter, allowing collective defense. Within three weeks, half of the AFU forces feared encirclement. Zelensky ordered a call up of forces and expansion of Ukraine's military. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:55, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Pay attention, man: if I say the Red Sox won in the World Series in 2022, my error is not corrected by them winning it in 2025. I'm confident a 6-year-old could grasp this. Feel free, though, to continue positioning yourself as lacking the cognitive firepower of a small child. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::That map is simply a contemporaneous report of perceptions of the situation at that point in time. Zelensky would not have done the call up and expansion of the AFU if NATO &amp;amp; Ukrainian military intelligence did not fear developing encirclement in a cauldron.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Now, the perception and understanding of the limits of maneuver warfare was a later development by both NATO &amp;amp; Russian military analysts. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::It is only in the past 3 months that a consensus has emerged, after a yearlong debate, that &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; are a thing of the past. IMO, that remains to be seen; after destruction and collapse of remaining AFU forces, in the absence of any diplomatic efforts, we are very likely to see some Russian &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; from the north. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:17, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::I see. Bonkers lies are Good Things Requiring No Retraction as long you can point to sufficient Russian TV &amp;quot;vibes&amp;quot;? Good luck with that. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:54, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::The debate about &amp;quot;big arrow offenses&amp;quot; arose among analysts in both camps last year. Russian commentators were probably quicker to say it's a thing of the past (some claimed they were just making excuses), but it appears NATO commentators now are coming to the same realization, only not all yet. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::As I said, I'm still not convinced entirely; some might argue advancing enmasse after the total defeat of an enemy in the field is not really an &amp;quot;offensive&amp;quot;, but in the absence of a diplomatic settlement or formal surrender, it should be considered as such. And that may be where we're headed. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:20, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::[https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?&amp;amp;q=russian%20%27agriculture%27%20weapon&amp;amp;mid=FC1C0EC85155FABCB674FC1C0EC85155FABCB674&amp;amp;ajaxhist=0 Remote mine laying equipment] (the Russians call it 'Agriculture') has revolutionized warfare. It provides no escape for an advancing force, effectively creating a 'cauldron'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::The CRUX video above doesn't explain it very well. The Russians herd an advancing force into a kill zone surrounded on 3 sides, and then use remote mine laying ('Agriculture&amp;quot;) to sprout mines behind them, preventing retreating forces from exiting, and re-enforcements from entering, the kill zone. It is effectively a cauldron, without using troops to close the trap. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:41, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::All of which is fascinating, no doubt, but we're talking about a specific &amp;quot;big arrow offensive&amp;quot; which very obviously stalled shortly after your declaration of victory and which has since seen its northern pincer completely obliterated. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:45, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Give human beings some credit - they never stop coming up with ingenious new ways to kill each other.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:51, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to clarify, is there a retraction or retractions that still that still need to be made? If so, what page or pages need to be corrected and in what sections? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:From [[2022 Special Military Operation in Ukraine - Donbas cauldron|this particular bit of his fan fiction]], the 2nd paragraph needs to be nuked from orbit. The March and April maps need to go, or have the captions completely rewritten. I can dig other mentions tomorrow. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:24, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::What's wrong with the second paragraph? Doesn't it chronicle the lying Russian state media propaganda apparatus? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::[https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/ Here is the source.] Everything has to be verified from that source before any changes are made. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:04, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay. I have reread the original source link. There's nothing wrong with it. The AFU was indeed trapped in a cauldron, before any NATO equipment or mercenaries showed up. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:15, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yep. Re-read it a second time. That piece, ''The Russian military intervention in the Ukraine – a macro view'' - March 09, 2022 stands for its historical relevance. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::This excerpt summarizes the view or the author at that moment in time, which by every indication was borne out by factual reality, and has not changed to this day (and was primary basis for NATO provoking the war):&lt;br /&gt;
:::::''&amp;quot;My fear is that the United States and Joe “Biden” have decided that the best thing for them is to have as many dead Ukrainians as possible.  And that is not a means to an end, it is the end: have as many Steppe N*ggers and Snow N*ggers kill each other. This is [[the West]]’s sole and entire plan for the Ukraine: (example from [https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-09-22/h_4498c85f00bb1fd41412cd70b0fcfe70 CNN])''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Turns out, the people in the CNN [[fake news]] report of the maternity hospital bombing attest NATO/Ukraine bombed the hospital, not Russia. That fact was not known to the author at the time he wrote the piece. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:41, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::OK, man: specific dates, specific locations. Your fan fiction claims the cauldron &amp;quot;closed&amp;quot; on March 14, 2022. '''Your boys on the northern pincer were still fighting for Izium on March 14.''' Since the southern pincer never really got going at all, your cauldron is '''over 100 miles short of being &amp;quot;closed&amp;quot;.''' &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Serious question: just how stupid does a man have to be to try &amp;amp; run with such obvious guff? [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:35, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::All I'm saying is the specific meaning of cauldron warfare, as understood in March 2022, was reported by that source. It's meaning or understanding has evolved since to include remote mine laying to complete encirclement, not just manpower. And the Donbas cauldron itself is ''still'' (my point) in development. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:48, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::No, man. This is '''your''' reporting and that makes '''you''' responsible for the accuracy of the sources '''you''' choose to include. If you rely on an obviously shite source, that makes you an obviously shite reporter. That's just how it works. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::(ec) At right is the source map, with text, of the situation on March 9, 2022 when [[Zelensky]] begged for mercy and requested the Istanbul peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:08, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::At that moment in time, March 9, 2022, half the AFU, 120,000 men, were effectively cut off - their Airforce had been destroyed, and their supply lines were under the control of Russian artillery and air power. Zelensky begged for mercy. An operational pause ensued. Negotiations in Brest and later Istanbul established humanitarian corridors and prisoner swaps. Putin began withdrawing from Kiev as a gesture of good faith based upon the Istanbul peace talks which revived the [[Minsk Accords]]. The US Congress voted $60 billion in aid, and by April 2 the peace talks fell through. Larger packages of NATO arms began arriving. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:21, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::What's your point, man? The map bears no relation to what actually happened. You could draw one yourself and claim your boys wrapped up an entirely successful SMO by the end of Feb. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:23, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The solid red lines show Russian advances in two weeks; the solid blue lines show AFU positions. The dotted red lines show areas under Russian air and artillery control. This is effectively a tactical cauldron. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:29, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::No. That map and your guff have no more bearing on strategic reality and historical fact than when Trump took out his Sharpie and tried to &amp;quot;prove&amp;quot; that Dorian was ''totally'' forecast to hit Alabama. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::In case you've forgotten, the VKS were - and still are - famously incapable of flying the kind of massed, deeper interdiction strikes that NATO AFs take for granted. Your boys get modest close air support along the front lines and that's their lot. And you don't get any &amp;quot;fire control&amp;quot; of an area from occasional standoff strikes with cruise missiles air-launched from hundreds of miles away.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Even taking your guff seriously for a moment, just for the sake of argument, you've got a ~60 mile hole in your &amp;quot;cauldron&amp;quot;. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 13:15, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::That was the situation on March 9 as the Kiev regime felt tactical encirclement. The first round of the Ankara peace talks occurred on March 10. Zelensky had requested the peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:50, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::The 60 m gap you allege was covered by Russian airpower. There was no Ukrainian airforce left. The AFU could not be supplied with fuel for retreat or fresh drinking water. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:57, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::120,000 troops - half the Ukraine army - were trapped in a tactical cauldron on March 9. Zelensky cried &amp;quot;uncle&amp;quot; and asked for peace talks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:02, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Sure thing, Captain. And a length of pipe is a tactical bucket and up is down and you're a historian and absolutely definitely not a deeply weird old man drunk on the smell of his own farts and lies.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::Maybe there's some money in it for you eventually when the last of the Z-head deadenders get desperate enough for their very own vatnik QAnon. ''&amp;quot;Trust the plan!&amp;quot;'' you'll tell them. ''&amp;quot;Enjoy the show!&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::::[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:43, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::::::Nah, I'm just keeping notes like A J P Taylor or Basil Henry Liddell Hart. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:15, September 16, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, &amp;quot;As for the men in power, they are so anxious to establish the myth of infallibility that they do their utmost to ignore truth.&amp;quot; - Boris Pasternak. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, September 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The article has about 1,275 page views. If you are right about &amp;quot;fan fiction&amp;quot; (RobSmith seems to be admitting it is &amp;quot;fan fiction&amp;quot;), do you think this is causing some readers to quickly click off the page and certainly not recommend the page to others? If so, why do you think RobSmith hasn't made the correction yet? I ask because people usually create content so other people read it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:51, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
'''Quick note to RobSmith:''' Are you saying that the &amp;quot;fog of war&amp;quot; is largely responsible for the discrepancy or that the Western media was either intentionally/unintentionally misreporting? Sometimes when it comes to historical events, there are conflicting reports and sometimes it is not due to malice.  So the careful historian has to carefully weigh the evidence. In addition, unfortunately in war &amp;quot;truth is often a casualty&amp;quot; and there is propaganda on both sides. &lt;br /&gt;
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Personally, given that I believe that the war of attrition could drag on for years, I am not going to be following this war super closely in terms of the battles.  In addition, my interest in geopolitics has waned and will likely continue to wane. In addition, I would rather be a contributor to various events rather than be largely a spectator to events. So I am not going to be a good referee when it comes to this content dispute.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:25, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Second note to RobSmith:''' Your source appears to be merely some blog run by some unknown blogger. Here is an excerpt from your blogger from the source you cited: &amp;quot;My fear is that the United States and Joe “Biden” have decided that the best thing for them is to have as many dead Ukrainians as possible.  And that is not a means to an end, it is the end: have as many Steppe Niggers and Snow Niggers kill each other.&amp;quot;[https://thesaker.is/the-russian-military-intervention-in-the-ukraine-a-macro-view/]  This certainly does not appear to be a reliable source. &lt;br /&gt;
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Admittedly, I haven't investigated the issue of this battle, but I can't say that I am sympathetic to your position on this matter. At this point, I would lean towards User: ConwayIII's position. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:35, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Note User:Conservative: I don't read your trolling edits. You take 6 paragraphs to say something that could be said in 6 sentences, or 6 words. And I'm not interested in your &amp;quot;BTW&amp;quot; stories from your childhood. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:52, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I am not a fan of Ukraine or Russia as I believe they are both corrupt and authoritarian regimes. The war is causing casualties and economic damage to both countries which is very bad since both Russia and Ukraine have a demographic crisis and this war is making their demographic crises worse. The war is also causing economic damage to Europe and USA taxpayers. And it is restricting the food supply to the world. I hope the war ends soon, but it appears as if it could go on for years.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
ConwayIII, do you believe that a Chinese economic crisis would make it harder for Russia to fight the war at some point since Russia sells oil and gas to China? If so, when do you think this will happen? &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, war spending can be very inflationary. [https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-russia-economy-inflation-business-ukraine-war-ruble-interest-rates-2023-9 Vladimir Putin says that inflation in Russia is making it 'practically impossible' for businesses to plan], Business Insider, 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:11, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Here's one of your ideological kinsmen: [https://youtu.be/ffnaGUIXT4s Pyramid of Far-right Radicalization leads to DEMOCRAT-BACKED AMERICAN NEO-NAZIS IN UKRAINE]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:31, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::At the end of August, I realized that my interest in international relations would soon wane to a certain degree. With the Chinese economy beginning to have significant problems and likely declining a lot more, that certainly could mitigate the influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and their newfound ally the Kremlin. &lt;br /&gt;
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::At the same time, in terms of its effect on Christendom, this could be a bonanza for the Chinese Christian population. Xi JingPing, whose administration is persecuting Christians, might lose power. We might even see the end of the CCP in the 22nd century or early 23rd century should Jesus tarry. Of course, things are hard to predict when it comes to politics in China. For example, if Xi JingPing is replaced, it could be by someone even worse who persecutes Christians even more. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Also, if Putin loses power sooner or Kremlin influence wanes in Russia, since the Russian state does get involved in religious matters and favors the Russian Orthodox Church, maybe there will be more competition within the Christian church sphere which could cause Russian churches to up their game so Russia's moribund church attendance figures might see a rise. &lt;br /&gt;
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::So this is certainly something to keep in prayer. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:01, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Russia doesn't have the pipeline infrastructure to sell much gas to China and it'll take years to build enough to compensate for the loss of EU markets. Significant slackening of Chinese oil demand would be much more damaging.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::As for the likelihood of a major economic crisis, China probably has more than enough stashed in its sovereign wealth fund to stave off any immediate disaster. The trick is to intervene in ways that don't further destabilise an increasingly dysfunctional economy that's staring down the barrel of some ugly demographic trends. I don't think they've figured that out yet and they're likely reluctant to pull the trigger too hastily.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Perhaps that means they end up moving too late, but in the short to medium term, my money's on cushioned slowdown rather than epic crash. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:34, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:ConwayIII, you wrote: &amp;quot;my money's on cushioned slowdown rather than epic crash.&amp;quot;.  While this may happen, I think there are signs that the slowdown/decline will happen faster than you think. See: [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_The_rising_rule_of_communist_idiocracy_in_China#China_has_likely_peaked_arguments China has peaked arguments]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:36, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The biggest risk China faces is probably Xi's determination to install himself as Dear Leader for life. [https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/power-causes-brain-damage/528711/ Does bad things to a man's brain.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:42, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Xi JingPin's love of communism is very bad and will make things worse. On the other hand, a lot of what is going to happen in China is the result of prior bad decisions and they will be impossible to reverse. But there are a lot of Christians in China right now and the fervent Christian Chinese population will likely increase with time for a significant period of time. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Marxism is a Western idea with not very long roots in the light of China's very long history. Hopefully, it will fall in my lifetime in China.  The Soviet Union eventually collapsed suddenly. So you never know. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:53, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A victim of my own campaign's success? If true, it is ironic. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayII, I do believe in religious freedom and noticed that homosexual activists were restricting religious freedom. So I did some modern-day muckraking relating to the issue of homosexuality that drove a lot of traffic to Conservapedia. In addition, I wanted to drive traffic to Conservapedia in order to gain an audience to my future articles on atheism. &lt;br /&gt;
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I discovered so much muck in my muckraking that I think it had an influence on Conservapedians and the owner of the website. And now Putin's and Xi's anti-homosexuality views are seen as a license for them to break God's other commandments - which of course, it is not. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Never mind Conway, he's just bragging and boasting - it's a symptom of [[narcissistic personality disorder]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please email me ==&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, please email at conservativeconservapediaATgmailDOTcom  &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:23, September 12, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Reply to my newest email please. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:45, September 13, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am among the 90+% of sane Americans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;less than 10% of Americans, a bigger number of the Republican Party, but less than 10% of Americans have a favorable view of Putin&amp;quot;. - February 2023[https://www.murphy.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/murphy-the-republicans-lifting-up-putin-are-the-same-ones-trying-to-destroy-democracy]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hurray for sanity! Long live sanity! &lt;br /&gt;
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The above graphic comes from the video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qovJZwIVr0 Why the West Won’t Collapse with Stephen Kotkin] (Stephen Kotkin is an American historian, academic, and author.)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Essay: Why has the West been so successful?|Why has the West been so successful?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Go West! &lt;br /&gt;
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West is best! East is least! (High school chant). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:07, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Re: Kent &amp;quot;Boneface&amp;quot; McClennan narrative might be total hype ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding our recent discussion about Kent &amp;quot;Boneface&amp;quot; McClennan:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2023/09/13/us-neo-nazi-says-he-fought-in-ukraine-records-place-him-in-florida/ US neo-Nazi says He Fought in Ukraine, Records Place Him in Florida] and [https://www.vice.com/en/article/epv5ak/inside-the-neo-nazi-trial-of-boneface-the-man-they-think-made-them-look-bad Inside the Neo-Nazi Trial of 'Boneface', the Man They Think Made Them Look Bad] &lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps some due diligence is in order. As per my previous comments to you, I will not be doing extensive fact-checking in matters such as these. &lt;br /&gt;
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I put this information at: [[Talk:Boneface McClellan]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I sent you a second email about Steve Bannon and why I am not a big fan of his. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Go fix it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:56, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The fixing of the [[Bill Browder]] article shows me that the return on investment (ROI) in terms of fixing obvious mistakes in your articles is not worth it.  And the &amp;quot;Captain Couldron&amp;quot; situation possibly echoes this situation. &lt;br /&gt;
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::If you don't care that some readers will quickly off your articles due to factual mistakes (That are due to a lack of fact-checking) and a lack of objectivity, then I guess you will have to lie in that squalid bed. I am not going to drag you across the finish line of quality article production. And frankly, I cannot say that I am upset if your China/Russia cheerleading articles receive low traffic. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:07, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was a fan of Reagan. He is the person who caused me to lean to the political right. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:14, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Steve Bannon, addendum ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a second email about Steve Bannon and why I am not a big fan of his.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, he might be facing criminal charges related to fraud and some border wall project. But given recent events in terms of the USA's legal system as far as Democrat &amp;quot;Banana Republic&amp;quot; antics, I am going to wait for the dust to settle before I come to any conclusion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Our recent email exchange  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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We recently had an email exchange. &lt;br /&gt;
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I think this essay will help clarify an issue you wrote about: [[Essay: Jesus compared to Niccolò Machiavelli]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I suspect Conservapedia's resident fanboy of Niccolò Machiavelli will not like this article, but perhaps it will be a splash of cold water to his conscience and awaken his moral sensibilities. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:22, September 15, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please maintain basic civility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Yes, I know, you think RobSmith doesn't hold a high intellectual capacity. Unless you're seeking a lengthy block, do not throw around 7th-grade level insults, especially seeing that no one unjustly provoked you to begin with. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 14:01, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, do not remove collapse templates that I place on your comments; if you repeatedly edit-war in reverting my installation, this will similarly be grounds for the imposition of a semi-lengthy block on your account, and you will thereby have to wait an unfortunately long duration of time before responding in those precious discussion pages where you just love to insert the expected amateurish fourth-rate trolling. Good day. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 14:43, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: ConwayIII, I sent DavidB4 and Andy Schlafly this email a few minutes ago:&lt;br /&gt;
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Less than a month ago, we had an &amp;quot;Articles for Deletion&amp;quot; vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted. &lt;br /&gt;
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With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:33, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Request for your vote at: Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine ==&lt;br /&gt;
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At [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine]] please vote in the following manner:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''This is a time wasting revote.''' There needn't be another vote. We already voted on this matter less than a month ago. [[User: RobSmith]] lost the vote by a 3 to 1 margin. He is wasting our time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Your vote on this matter would be very helpful.  Conservapedia is not a dictatorship where a wanna-be tyrant can demand a revote less than 30 days later. Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:12, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I saw your vote in the AfD vote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just noticed your vote in the AfD vote. Good show! &lt;br /&gt;
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This calls for some celebratory music! [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhL9X0noKimjvGEmJ0XGkBn8xv3aF8lwq Tremaine Hawkins - Gospel Funk Nation!] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:56, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yJ_m7Yu3H3A Cheers.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 14:18, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Word salads are nice, but please restrain the incivility ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You're lucky this is a warning you haven't already received the lengthy block, man. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 19:42, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Go away, man. No-one here cares what you think and Andy will never make you  an admin. I'm happy to take you through the various bits where you completely f_____ it if you'd like to try again with a fresh account &amp;amp; IP address. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:27, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sure, after this reply, I'll go away for now. But remember: you remain on Conservapedia today because two years ago, I reversed Conservative's decision to permanently kick you out. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 21:03, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Please comment on my motion==&lt;br /&gt;
Please comment in support of my motion at: [[Conservapedia:User complaints#Endorsements]]. Thank you, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 20:35, October 9, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please email me ==&lt;br /&gt;
Please email me at maygodbless135 AT gmail DOT com at your earliest convenience. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 23:44, October 9, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's bizarre ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Someone brought up RobSmith with me today. &lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote this in reply: Shortly after waking up today, I thought about how weird it is for RobSmth to love Russia. It's like a guy falling in love with a 300 pound woman. If I were to pick a country outside the USA to very much like/love, I would pick Singapore. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Singapore's safety and low crime rate make it an attractive destination for expats, as it provides peace of mind and security for those living and working in the city-state. The country is considered one of the safest places in Asia, and it is a great place for expats to raise families.&amp;quot; [https://www.georgiacaney.com/post/pros-and-cons-of-living-in-singapore-as-an-expat-in-2023#:~:text=Singapore's%20safety%20and%20low%20crime,for%20expats%20to%20raise%20families.]&lt;br /&gt;
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There is far less social dysfunction in Singapore than in Russia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:43, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Wow. &amp;quot;provides peace of mind and security&amp;quot;. You'd think our resident geopolitical expert of the [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Geopolitics|Haushopher School of Realism]] and [[Holocaust revisionism]] would know something about [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_in_Singapore Caning in Singapore]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:00, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Singapore has low crime and a highly educated population. A far higher percentage of Russian men die of alcoholism or other self-destructive behaviors in Russia than are materially harmed by caning in Singapore. &amp;quot;In 2021, life expectancy at birth for women in Russia was about 74.77 years, while life expectancy at birth for men was about 64.21 years on average.&amp;quot;[https://www.statista.com/statistics/971100/life-expectancy-at-birth-in-russia-by-gender/#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20life%20expectancy%20at,about%2064.21%20years%20on%20average.] In 2020, life expectancy in Singapore was 83.74 years (2020).[https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/life-expectancy-of-singapore-population-rose-in-last-decade-but-fell-during-covid-19\] Also, &amp;quot;The average life expectancy of males in Singapore is 80.7 years. The life expectancy at birth for males increased from 70.1 years in 1981 to 80.7 years in 2022, an increase of 15.1%. When we compare male life expectancy with a decade back (79.8 years in 2012), it increased by 0.9 years.&amp;quot;[https://smartwealth.sg/life-expectancy/#:~:text=2)%20The%20average%20life%20expectancy%20of%20males%20in%20Singapore%20is%2080.7%20years&amp;amp;text=The%20life%20expectancy%20at%20birth%20for%20males%20increased%20from%2070.1,it%20increased%20by%200.9%20years.]&lt;br /&gt;
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::The national life expectancy numbers don't lie and it's impossible for you to sweep Russian society dysfunction under the rug. &lt;br /&gt;
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::“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - [[John Adams]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:20, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, consider this: [https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/russia-police-ukraine/2023/10/01/id/1136569/ Russia Facing 'Critical' Shortage of Police]: &amp;quot;Corruption is also taking a toll. A police major from the city of Tomsk said that officers are &amp;quot;beating confessions out of people, inflating arrest quotas. We're seeing this all the time. It's only going to get worse. There will be falsification of evidence, targeted beatings. There just isn't going to be time to investigate anything properly.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:::And, [https://www.newsweek.com/russia-gun-crime-surge-police-kursk-ukraine-border-1761774 Russia Suffers Gun Crime Explosion as Police Say Cases Have Gone Up by 600%], November 2022.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It's very clear that Singapore is a much better country to live in than Russia, but go ahead and continue to embrace your 300 pound woman like country. A polka song comes to mind: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez_hQdWN4Rg Oh, I don't want her you can have her. She's too fat for me]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:42, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::See how Americanized and Westernized Russia has become in such a short period of time: &amp;quot;It's only going to get worse. There will be falsification of evidence, targeted beatings. There just isn't going to be time to investigate anything properly.&amp;quot; [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:19, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::'''ConwayIII, I hope you are a polka fan. Behold, my new satirical essay has been unveiled:''' [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]].  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:29, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::It's time Conservapedia's articles on Russia and Putin have much greater objectivity. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:46, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Let's bring a balanced perspective to [https://www.dw.com/en/the-invisible-scars-left-by-strikes-of-the-cane/a-18298970 your beloved Singapore]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:24, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::[https://www.reddit.com/r/midjourney/comments/11lvgdl/russian_brandkhokhloma_kokoshnik_soviet_carpet/?rdt=42809 Big Mother Russia (in a fetching range of tracksuits!)] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:05, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for sharing that. The essay has a new title in case you didn't notice: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman|Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Should I write another essay? Like [[Essay: Why Russian gangsters and their propagandists need a sound caning. Singapore is much better country than Russia!]] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:16, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sarah Ashton-Cirillo.PNG|right}300px|thumb|'''&amp;quot;Give me liberty or give me death!&amp;quot;''' U.S./NATO spokeswoman thing [[Sarah Ashton-Cirillo]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
::Have at it, man. They need some kind of sense beating into them. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:38, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::If Jesus should tarry, imagine what Russia will look like in 2030 or 2035 when I write about Russia again. Mother Russia will be a 400 pound woman instead of merely being a 300 pound woman. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:48, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Unlike the West and America, at least she'll be a woman. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:08, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::ConwayIII, did you notice that RobSmith is trying to shift the focus away from a Singapore vs. Russia comparison? It's a clear sign of resignation and defeat. As much as I am reluctant to do it, I am going to have to declare victory. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::And I still predict that an aging and corrupt Mother Russia will be 400 pounds in 2030 or by 2035. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:18, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::As I said, at least she'll be a real female, unlike those things you are [[grooming]] in [[the West]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:44, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfxNTUuUftA 'The Miracle Of Asia' (Part 2) - Singapore Documentary]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi6r3hZe5Tg City of the Future: Singapore – Full Episode | National Geographic]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT2js1oxyJA The Secret of the Singapore Miracle: How to Turn a Third World Country into an Ideal State]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSOgcpRbrCo Why Singapore is One of the World's Richest Countries]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJqjAWhTpuA Is Singapore a safe country? I asked foreigners.]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Singapur.jpg|thumbnail|400px|center|Unlike Russia, Singapore is the 4rth richest country in the world.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, I trust this further clarifies a very clear issue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:56, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;|||Ez 16:49}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;To take a look at how and where such a minimal standard of welfare design has been implemented successfully, one need only look at the city-state of Singapore. The Singapore welfare system is considered one of the most successful by first-world standards. [https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.XPD.CHEX.GD.ZS?locations=SG-US-DE-NL-JP-FR-AU-KR&amp;amp;year_high_desc=true World Bank data] shows that Singapore’s government health expenditure in 2015 is only 4.3 percent of GDP, a small fraction in comparison to other first-world countries—16.9 percent in the US; 11 percent in France; 9.9 percent in the UK; 10.9 percent in Japan, and 7.1 percent in Korea—while achieving comparatively equal or better health outcomes of low infant mortality and higher life expectancies. While most of Europe, Scandinavia, and North America spend 30-40 percent of GDP on social welfare programs, Singapore spends less than half as much while maintaining similar levels of economic growth and a society relatively free of social problems.&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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By compelling Singaporeans to save, welfare in Singapore has traditionally been internalized first to the individual and the family/grassroots level. This forms the crux of the government’s “Many Helping Hands” social policy where the role of the family and immediate community in welfare provision is emphasized over government-funded programs. Such a form of privatized charity is neither new nor unique, as a wealth of research shows how mutual aid societies predated modern welfare states in the 20th-century United States and the 19th-century United Kingdom.[https://fee.org/articles/what-america-could-learn-from-singapores-social-welfare-system/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Singapore has the 2nd lowest infant mortality rate in the world - so it is much better than Russia in this respect as Russia has about a 400% higher infant mortality rate.[https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/infant-mortality-rate/country-comparison/]&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, Russia has the highest abortion rate in the world.[https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/abortion-rates-by-country]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Question:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; If Russia's societal system is so good then why do Singaporeans live so much longer than Russians? The proof is in the pudding! &lt;br /&gt;
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I trust this further clarifies a very, very clear matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:31, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You heard it here: the reasoning of a [https://www.sophie-sticatedmom.com/2019/07/29/manchild/ man-child]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:36, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::ConwayIII, I believe I found another reason why RobSmith is so enamored of a 300 pound Mother Russia. He needs to raise his standards. Singaporeans can help him do that.&lt;br /&gt;
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::“The greatest danger for most of us is not that our aim is too high and we miss it, but that it is too low and we reach it.” - Michelangelo[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:44, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::The more you talk, the more you sound like [[Bernie Sanders]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:48, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Please vote in this AFD vote ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wrote the essay: [[Essay: Why a Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Please vote in this AfD vote: [[Conservapedia:AFD Essay: Why A Westerner falling for Russian propaganda is like a man who is seduced by a corrupt 300 pound woman]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:13, October 14, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks for you recent feedback and some information you might be interested in. Also, Conservapedia's Dunning-Kruger effect article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your recent feedback concerning my writing which I requested.  I appreciated your positive feedback and your pointer on how I could improve too. &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, I added some additional content to the [[Dunning-Kruger effect]] article. It's an interesting topic and it shows the importance of having self-awareness and why it's important to improve both your weaknesses and your strengths. Top performers such as Olympic athletes improve their strengths and weaknesses which increases their overall performance.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, I know you are interested in politics. I just added this information to the essay  at [[Essay: Why did so many self-declared international relations experts miserably fail concerning their multipolar fantasy?]]: &amp;quot;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Question:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; Did you know that is very doable to be a better forecaster in terms of politics, economics and other future events? There is a great book on this matter by the political science writer and political science professor [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_E._Tetlock Philip E. Tetlock] entitled ''[https://www.amazon.com/Superforecasting-Science-Prediction-Philip-Tetlock/dp/0804136718/ref=sr_1_1?crid=RXUQRMJ8BOFV&amp;amp;keywords=Philip+Tetlock&amp;amp;qid=1697558700&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;sprefix=philip+tetlock+%2Cstripbooks%2C101&amp;amp;sr=1-1 Superforecasting: The Art and Science of Prediction]'' which has some fascinating information based on the reviews and videos I watched concerning this matter. And the book has received a lot of positive reviews by various people involved in forecasting.&lt;br /&gt;
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You may find the below information interesting as well:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/how-to-predict-the-future/588040/ The Peculiar Blindness of Experts] - Credentialed authorities are comically bad at predicting the future. But reliable forecasting is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcnj61KSOhM Professor Philip Tetlock on His Groundbreaking Research About 'Expert Judgment'] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f73A-HB-08M Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?] by Philip Tetlock - video&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.amazon.com/Expert-Political-Judgment-Good-Know/dp/0691128715/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1256588850&amp;amp;sr=8-1 Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?] by Philip E. Tetlock, Princeton University Press; New Ed edition (August 20, 2006)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:30, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Please note:''' I just created the essay: [[Essay: An ego-deflating bonanza of self-declared Russia experts and international relations experts is going to occur. It will be a popping of their huge egos of biblical proportions!]]. It features a catchy tune I created! :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:17, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No worries, man. Happy to help. Here's to a reality-based media diet and dealing with the world as is. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:13, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I recently came across this: [https://ground.news/ Ground news] - 50,000 sources. See: [https://www.youtube.com/@ground_news/videos Ground News - YouTube].  Rates stories by right/left leaning as far as coverage. &lt;br /&gt;
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But I realize there are more dimensions to news than merely right/left. For example, East/West, national, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also come across [https://voxday.net/2016/12/26/the-iq-delta/ this information] written by someone with an IQ of 150+ regarding VHIQ (Very high IQ people) and UHIQ (Ultra high IQ people) which I alluded to in an email:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''1.''' VHIQ inclines towards binary either/or thinking and taking sides. UHIQ inclines towards probabilistic thinking and balancing between contradictory possibilities.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''2.''' VHIQ seeks understanding towards application or justification, UHIQ seeks understanding towards holistic understanding.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''3.''' VHIQ refines the original thought of others, UHIQ synthesizes multiple original thoughts.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''4.''' VHIQ rationalizes logical conclusions, UHIQ accepts logical conclusions. This is ironic because VHIQ considers itself to be highly logical, UHIQ considers itself to be investigative.&lt;br /&gt;
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While I realize that there is more to understanding things than just IQ such as knowledge, wisdom, moral development, etc. looking at things intelligently does apply to understanding politics. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, in WWII you had the Nazis vs. Soviets. In this conflict, you had two bad parties against each other so #1 above would apply. Given that I think that both Ukraine/Russia are both corrupt/authoritarian to varying degrees (which is not surprising given their shared cultural/historical past), I can't say that I am a partisan on this issue. I would just like the war in Ukraine to end as quickly and peacefully as possible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe someday I will take an IQ test. :) &lt;br /&gt;
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But first, I am working on improving the below factors:&lt;br /&gt;
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What is IQ or intelligence?&lt;br /&gt;
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When we use the term intelligence, we usually refer to academic or cognitive intelligence. Cognitive ability is defined as the mental capacity to do the following: &lt;br /&gt;
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*Storing and retrieving information&lt;br /&gt;
*Problem-solving&lt;br /&gt;
*Reading&lt;br /&gt;
*Abstract thinking &lt;br /&gt;
*Reasoning &lt;br /&gt;
*Complex idea thinking &lt;br /&gt;
*Planning &lt;br /&gt;
*Learning from experience[https://irisreading.com/is-memory-a-sign-of-intelligence-quick-facts/#:~:text=Is%20good%20memory%20an%20indicator,necessarily%20correlated%20with%20high%20intelligence.]&lt;br /&gt;
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I am in the midst of covering some material on memory improvement, creativity, problem solving, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:45, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The smartest people I've come across generally display the following:&lt;br /&gt;
:#Natural curiosity&lt;br /&gt;
:#Discernment re. quality of sources / inputs&lt;br /&gt;
:#Strong analytic processes&lt;br /&gt;
:#A willingness to accept conclusions thus derived, even when it conflicts with their priors&lt;br /&gt;
:#The ability to accept complexity and nuance, even when it renders their conclusions more vague / less useful than they were hoping&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:52, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:49, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
=== Russian defector reveals that a 'majority' of people inside the Kremlin are unhappy with the war in Ukraine ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-06-26/russia-defector-reveals-many-kremlin-members-unhappy-war-730/102526452 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], Australian Broadcasting Corporation, June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeZRN6YrN0 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], ABC News video, July 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Moscow Grand Kremlin Palace3.jpg|center|thumbnail|400px|The Grand Kremlin Palace is a building in the Moscow Kremlin.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Moscow Kremlin is a fortified complex in the center of Moscow. The Moscow Kremlin now serves as the official residence of the Russian president and as a museum.]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;Attention:&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;'''  The unhappiness situation is dire in Russia. I suggest you approach the Kremlin about putting bouncy castles in Red Square. &lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47HnlKngrb4 Vlad and Niki play in Inflatable Castle and other funny challenges for kids]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:57, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Happily, though, Putin is every bit as mortal as the rest of us and growing older and older each day. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:08, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But who is the replacement? He might be worse. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:14, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The uncertainty re. what happens next is likely one of the key reasons why the Western alliance has adopted a strategy of slowly boiling the frog. A sudden, chaotic collapse could get very ugly, very quickly. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:04, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please read this essay, ConwayIII ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See: [[Essay: Hitler was a Communist in early 1919]] —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 08:42, October 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I made updates to my essay at: Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Russia map flag-overlay (1).png|thumbnail|600px|center|&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Please read:'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; [[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?|Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope it's a sunny day where you are. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:34, October 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Avdiivka cauldron==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Avdiivka cauldron.jpg|right|300px|thumb|Starting to look like a textbook cauldron.]]&lt;br /&gt;
War is not like Hollywood, where everything gets resolved in 60 minutes or after the next commercial break. The Avdiiivka cauldron is somewhat reminiscent of the good 'ol days of [[Stalingrad]]. Pray for any Nazis captured alive who have served there anytime between 2014 and now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:57, October 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, man. Because Stalingrad was such a famously quick &amp;amp; rousing victory for the invading army and one that - even more famously - totally turned the tide of war in their favour.&lt;br /&gt;
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:In other news, given your boys have already lost about a brigade's worth of kit just trying to get the first lot of those red arrows going, I'm more than happy for them to keep tilting at this particular windmill. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:49, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You need [https://youtu.be/eREr43Xl7ck to see HistoryLegends take on it]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:56, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Update: [https://youtu.be/3MsVOeUXWBY Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Battlefield Ukraine The Cauldron of the Apocalypse]. 12:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It's my sad duty to inform you that you have the research skills and information diet of a Z-addled dung beetle, my man. I salute your determination n' all, but no matter how big it gets, it's still just a great big ball of guff you're rolling round the wiki.  [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:35, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I thought &amp;quot;Cauldron of the Apocalypse&amp;quot; might be a bit much, but when the [[Avdiivka meatgrinder]] does fall, the AFU, [[Zelensky]] regime, [[Kharkiv]] and Odessa won't be far behind. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:41, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::You're developing a positively Millerite penchant for Great Disappointments. At least it gives me [https://www.yardgallery.com/father-ted-series-1-episode-1-reality-bb0054-c some ideas for your Christmas present] this year. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:02, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Ok, I'll give up one of my most reliable sources: [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/sitrep-102423-avdeevka-victories SITREP 10/24/23: Avdeevka Victories Confirmed]. 02:39, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Russian propaganda already [https://youtu.be/iFl73rMR-wQ preparing the population for the need to retake Odessa.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:33, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::So which will we see first?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::a) [[Teheran]] get [[nuke]]d?&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::b) Helicopters taking off from the roof of the US embassy in [[Kyiv]]?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Update from ''Ukrayinska Pravda'' (a Nazi propaganda organ): ''[https://news.yahoo.com/kharkiv-oblast-announce-forced-evacuation-183540252.html Kharkiv Oblast to announce forced evacuation of families with children]'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:00, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Update: Military and Foreign Affairs Network: Battlefield Ukraine [https://youtu.be/XCVf2PBH0Cw Russian Cauldron of Doom Tightens]. Report: 8,000 encircled now, Zelensky orders Zaluzhnyi to hold it at all costs, ready to dump in another 30,000 on a suicide mission. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:35, October 26, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Clearer minds would note that the SMO has now devolved to the point where its enthusiasts are giddily anticipating full control (!) over the Avdiivka coke plant's slag heap. If you want an accurate fall-from-greatness vibe, just picture Mike Tyson when he was so washed-up he had to earn his crust staging sparring exhibitions in Vegas hotel lobbies while fat tourists shuffled past, uncaring. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 22:41, October 26, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::[[Patrick Lancaster]] under fire from [[Avdiivka]], June 15, 2022. [https://youtu.be/Nl5WWmKgCaQ Journalists Come Under Ukraine Artillery Fire In Donetsk Suburb]. Civilian residents have been subjected to this for 9 1/2 years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:55, October 27, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::[https://t.me/geopolitics_live/8563 &amp;quot;The town is a strategic point for the whole Donbass front...When it falls, the Donbass front is going to shatter like glass...Once Avdeevka is out of the way, Russia will be able to move in any direction that they want for as far as they want...It’s one of the strongest positions that’s ever been built in this war...Once it’s taken, the Ukrainians aren’t going to have any defensive positions that can anywhere near match what they built up in Avdeevka over almost nine years of reinforcing it”]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:19, October 28, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::[https://worldsnewsnow.com/all-forces-go-into-the-cauldron-zelensky-wants-to-personally-command-the-defense-of-avdiivka-in-the-world-policy/ All forces go into the “cauldron”. Zelensky wants to personally command the defense of Avdiivka]. &lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::Yah, a comedic actor is more qualified to command troops at a crucial moment than Corporal Hitler (German officers were correct in the First World War - Hitler wasn't fit for the rank of Sargeant even after 4 years at the front). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:07, October 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/7BVH8QPXh8o Ukraine Sends Last Leopard Tanks To Avdiivka Cauldron.] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:30, October 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/0mFXcpiaaQ8 Cauldron practically closed], [https://youtu.be/0WPUEK2r4yw Jaws Of The Bear],  [https://youtu.be/-_3Joe31u_Q Russian Armored Columns STEAMROLL North of Avdiivka], [https://youtu.be/8vJ4FQICYyI NATO's Inevitable Erosion]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:24, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Update: [https://youtu.be/GTRbhlnyQRI AFU Found Itself In A Cauldron In AVDIIVKA: Russians Order Them To Surrender To Save Their LIVES]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:56, November 10, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Zerohedge: [https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/map-shows-another-key-ukraine-city-almost-fully-encircled-40k-russian-troops Map Shows Another Key Ukraine City Almost Fully Encircled By 40K Russian Troops]. Oh-oh. If Zerohedge is reporting factual news, [[CNBC]] maybe next. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:03, November 12, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, do you have information that debunks what RobSmith wrote above or are you just making an assumption RobSmith is wrong based on the &amp;quot;Captain Cauldron episode&amp;quot;? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:44, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Whatsamatta? Your own research skills failing you now? Here, add this to your collection of racist crap from the [[Haushofer school of geopolitics]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:49, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rob is just wishcasting at the minute. As far as I'm aware, he's yet to claim this one as another glorious imaginary victory. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 19:05, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::RobSmith sees this war as a glorious war that Russia is winning. The reality is that this war of attrition is making Russia's demographic crisis worse. It's a reflection of Russia's degenerate autocracy that Putin launched this war and wishes to continue it. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmeZRN6YrN0 Russia defector reveals 'majority' of people inside Kremlin unhappy with war in Ukraine], ABC News video, July 2023. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 06:39, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Conway, Ignore him. He's [[gossip]]ing again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:38, October 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===Is it too early to do a post mortem?===&lt;br /&gt;
Here's one, expressed fully, that I've been saying for more than a year already:&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;quot;Ukraine was defeated by its own Western propaganda.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''After the very military-strategically brilliant and gutsy move to pullback Russian forces from Kiev last year in order to shorten lines and concentrate all forces in a much smaller area, the Western pro-Ukrainian propaganda mills went into overdrive. They thought Russia was ‘on the run’ and had hoped that they could deliver a final “finishing blow” by way of propaganda, which would collapse Russian societal morale and lead to some kind of overthrow that would end the SMO.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''But these people sadly knew very little about military doctrine or strategy. What Russia did was carry out an absolutely simple and pedantic textbook reorientation of forces with a clear logic. In fact, that moment should have been an extremely chilling maneuver for Ukraine. It should have signaled: “Uh oh…this means Russia is taking its gloves off.” The initial thunder-run on Kiev was merely a brazen attempt to avoid bloodshed and see if the conflict could be ended fast and early. But not having worked, Russian military planners clearly knew that now the entire operation had to be shifted into actual war footing, rather than mere enhanced special operations raid.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Everything changed from that point on. Pro-Ukrainians should have keyed in on this and realized the heavyweight was now removing his gloves. But instead, what they did was run with the propaganda that Russia is a defeated, cowardly, inept, and completely helpless paper tiger. This propaganda “worked” incredibly well, too well—but the problem is, it worked on the wrong side.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Instead of convincing Russians of it, it convinced the Ukrainians and Western public that the war had already been won, that Russia could never recover from this brutal “loss” (which was not a loss in the slightest but a strategic maneuver and concentration of forces). Since then, no one in Ukrainian society thought to take the war seriously anymore and Ukraine’s own “rear” end had dropped out, while Russia’s rear in fact throttled up into overdrive, in terms of the galvanization of society to supporting the troops and military machine top to bottom.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''Now, the most aware pro-Ukrainian pundits are desperately trying to steer their flock back to rational thinking—but it’s too late.&lt;br /&gt;
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:''In fact, this will be studied for generations as an example of a massive propaganda fail—a propaganda campaign which destroyed its own side by way of inadequate attenuation and nuanced micromanagement of perceptions. They instead did a bruteforce method of flooding every which way without concerning themselves with who the propaganda was actually negatively affecting.: [https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/time-magazine-profile-depicts-grim]&lt;br /&gt;
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One for the history books, as we write the narratives. [[NATO]] thought it could win the war on [[propaganda]] alone.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:26, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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The advance on Kiev served two purposes: (1) to retrieve the elements of a [[dirty nuke]] fabricated with [[Chernobyl]] waste being assemble at Kiev's main airport; (2) to pressure Zelensky into the Istanbul negotiations where he caved into Russian demands to implement the [[Minsk Accords]] with a few additional demands. Even after Zelensky saw how Biden told the Afghan National Government to &amp;quot;fake it&amp;quot; when they were getting their butts kicked, Zelensky fell for Biden's messenger boy, [[Boris Johnson]], promise to stay in the fight with $60 billion bribe. Greed was Zelensky's motivation for betraying the peace deal negotiated with the Russians, not national pride, honor, or democracy, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Russians never had any plans to assault the city of Kiev, population 3 million, with a 40,000 man force. That idea is, and was ludicrous. &lt;br /&gt;
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Moral of the story: Beware of propaganda. It can be deadly. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:39, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Now I know why someone wants to be a tyrant and greatly restrict my online reading! It's not ever going to happen! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Essay: Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot;|Russian soldier and looter returning to Russia from Ukraine: &amp;quot;Honey, we now have a great luxury. We now have a toilet inside our home!&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;According to data put out by the Russian Statistics Service 22.6 percent of Russian households aren't connected to a sewer system, most of them in rural areas. Russian commentators are divided about how vital an achievement modern toilets are.&amp;quot; - [https://www.eurotopics.net/en/217691/what-do-outdoor-toilets-tell-us-about-russia# What do outdoor toilets tell us about Russia?], ''Euro Topics Press Review'', April 3, 2019&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 20, 2023, ''The Financial Times'', reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The letter of Mergen Mongush from Moscow (“Not the Kremlin line, but an ordinary Russian’s view”, October 7) is very misleading. Most desirable high-end retail products in Russian shops are well beyond the purchasing power of the vast majority of Russians outside of Moscow and St Petersburg, as totalitarian Russia has the highest wealth disparity of any large country. The wealth of Tatarstan, Tyumen and many other areas is funnelled to a small elite of Russians in cities that are not producing this wealth, while these regions remain impoverished.&lt;br /&gt;
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When, for example, Russian troops invaded at Irpin and Bucha, close to Kyiv, they were shocked to see, in ordinary Ukrainian homes, huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, internal toilets and other goods that are luxuries for them. So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are many photographs of Russian military vehicles carrying Ukrainian toilets, washing machines, etc back to Russia — and lots of jokes were made about this, but the failure of Russia to care for most of its own population and instead create huge wealth disparities is a serious matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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Russia may have greater wealth as a country, but most Ukrainians live better than the average Russian.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/ILpVs Letter: Russia’s looting soldiers tell real story of its economy], ''Financial Times'', October 20, 2023&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Toilet.jpg|thumbnail|800px|center|''Financial Times'', 2023: &amp;quot;When, for example, Russian troops invaded at Irpin and Bucha, close to Kyiv, they were shocked to see, in ordinary Ukrainian homes, huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, internal toilets and other goods that are luxuries for them. &lt;br /&gt;
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So they killed Ukrainian inhabitants, not just to carry out Vladimir Putin’s orders, but to steal their possessions and take them back to Russia.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/ILpVs Letter: Russia’s looting soldiers tell real story of its economy], ''Financial Times'', October 20, 2023&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Flag of Ukraine.png|thumbnail|500px|center|Next time you see a Ukrainian flag, remember not only does Ukraine have beautiful blue skies and majestic plains of wheat, but there are ordinary Ukrainian homes with huge televisions, high-quality washing machines and dryers, computers, and internal toilets - goods that are luxuries to Russian, soldier looters!]] &lt;br /&gt;
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I trust this clarifies matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:48, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is funny because it's true. Porcelain dreams of civilisation ftw. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:53, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::RobSmith is angry that I once again flushed his flawed political opinions down the proverbial toilet. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at my personal user space where RobSmith bitterly complained that I don't restrict my reading to news sources that he personally approves: [[User talk:Conservative/Political news and various articles]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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::By the way, isn't the ''Financial Times'' published in the UK/Britain? Did I ever tell you that I appear to have British ancestry? &lt;br /&gt;
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::Rule, Britannia! Britannia co-rule the world's soft power with its special friend the USA that whom it has a special relationship with! Britons never will be slaves! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:06, October 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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UK pundits at Times Radio thought the war in Ukraine may bring Putin's regime down. Could it be the lack of indoor toilets in many rural Russian homes? Those sneaky Western capitalists with their soft power are so cunning! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:16, October 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks.  Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter. Russia's interest rate doubles and is now 15%. Russia's ruble is having PROBLEMS ==&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 31, 2023, I found out that China got a trick and not a treat in October - manufacturing shrinks.  Russia, which is a big seller of oil to China, is not going to be happy about this matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBqhi1N0U2Q China Latest: Manufacturing Unexpectedly Shrinks, Services Miss Estimates]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvcRfYeFi4w CHINA Manufacturing CRASHES in October as Output Unexpectedly Shrinks &amp;amp; Economic Problems Continue]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''This means trouble for Russia may soon be on the horizon:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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'''The ruble is turning to rubble:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4FOtzQo1o RUSSIAN Ruble Collapse Panic Continues as Russia DOUBLES Interest Rates to 15%]&lt;br /&gt;
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It looks like my knowledge of international politics and economics is better than someone claims! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:59, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of coarse Chinese manufacturing would shrink as it loses the US market and prices at [[Walmart]] rise; however this is compensated for by increased drone, artillery, cruise missile and other military equipment (which the US, EU, and NATO cannot compete with cause they have no manufacturing base left nor an educated workforce with skills to operate factory machinery) production then supplied to Russia and Iran via North Korea. But User:Conservative still thinks this is 1991 and there is no war. He's yet to grasp the global changes that were apparant in April 2022 when NATO rejected [[diplomacy]] and decided to escalate war with Russia.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree with Prof. John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago who preaches the [[Realist school of international relations]] - there is no going back to March 2022. We cannot underestimate the scale of the disaster we created for ourselves. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 03:12, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Don't think I didn't notice that you failed to provide actual evidence that China's loss of manufacturing out is &amp;quot;compensated for by increased drone, artillery, cruise missile and other military equipment&amp;quot;. Because I did notice. And what is even crazier about your claim is that any military hardware manufacturing is manufacturing and China still had a manufacturing drop. &lt;br /&gt;
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::News story from non-Western source: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la9HMosSCtM China's factory activity contracts in blow to economic momentum].  Speaking of blows, here's a quote that fits China's communist economic planners: “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” - Mike Tyson. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:10, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::''Wall Street Journal'''s [[Singapore]] news bureau: [https://archive.md/UceXR#selection-4277.0-4277.44 China’s Economy Shows Fresh Signs of Slowing]. If only communist China were more like the prosperous and free country Singapore which is a great country for expats to raise a family in as I show [https://www.conservapedia.com/Essay:_Why_a_Westerner_falling_for_Russian_propaganda_is_like_a_man_who_is_seduced_by_a_corrupt_300_pound_woman HERE]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:23, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Defense conversion takes time as a nation reorders its priorities after [[Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come]]. The US doesn't have the educated workforce to work in machine factories, let alone the infrastructure itself. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:48, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The choice here is kinda up to [[NATO]], if it wants to end its [[warmonger]]ing over the next two years or so and make peace with the victorious powers, or continue its aggression. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:55, November 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::[https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/how-china-will-punch-out-our-lights How China Will Punch Out Our Lights]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:58, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am very bearish about China's long-term economy. I hope you didn't invest in a Russian company that plans on selling a whole lot of oil to China in the long-term future   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I used to be bearish about China's long-term economy, but now I am very bearish. &lt;br /&gt;
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Read my new essay at: [[Essay: It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy|It's time to be very bearish about China's long-term economy]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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I hope you didn't invest in a Russian company that plans on selling a whole lot of oil to China in the long-term future (See: [[Essay: Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines|Russia's economy and gas and oil profits will be BADLY damaged when China's economy declines]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Essay: Vladimir Putin is a corrupt kleptocrat and an authoritarian|Vladimir Putin]] is [[Xi Jinping]]'s &amp;quot;friend for life&amp;quot;. I feel so sorry for him! See: [[Essay: Why I am not bullish on Russia's future|Why I am not bullish on Russia's future]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0IV9U_F8rI Japan's Recession Was Bad. China's Will Be So Much Worse.]&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Andy Schlafly told me that you are &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot;. As far as their economic prospects for the foreseeable future, I am guessing that you aren't very bullish on the future of China and Russia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, November 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:We've talked previously about China's structural problems. I still suspect they have the financial / political wherewithal to engineer a soft(ish) landing, but the current [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67191262 Evergrande mess] neatly encapsulates the dilemma they face in trying to do so. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:28, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for a collaboration re: the essay at &amp;quot;Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
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As I mentioned above, Andy Schlafly told me that you are &amp;quot;very smart&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in helping write the essay at: [[User:Conservative/Essay: Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition|Essay: Russia getting pummeled in war is a 200-year tradition]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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It would be a collaborative essay between the two of us. Alternatively, you could certainly write the essay yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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So far I have some of the initial sources/research done.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:32, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An alternative essay to the essay above could be: [[Essay: Russian military defeats in history]]. Alternatively, both essays could be written. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 21:33, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Out of material already, huh? It's hard to continue when you invent &amp;quot;facts&amp;quot; out of your butt. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:37, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Evidence suggest User:Conservative's obsession with Russia is motivated by a spirit of vindictiveness and hate toward a fellow Conservapedia, not by any animosity toward Russia. User:Conway!!! has not exhibited such irrational behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Let's take your latest screed on alcoholism in Russia, for example. Is the basic underlying argument that Russia should convert to [[fentanyl]] as the [[United States]] has, as direct threat to public health? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:08, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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ConwayIII, please disregard the above notice.  I just wrote the essay at: [[Essay: Russia getting pummeled in wars in Russian history that hyper Russophiles will not tell you about]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Cheers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:25, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Apologies for the delayed response. I think it makes an important historical point. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 18:18, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why I don't wet my pants every night due to Russian, sabre rattling, nuclear war threats ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12193309/Putins-administration-staff-starting-day-bottle-vodka.html Putin's administration staff 'are starting the day with a bottle of vodka and Security Council's Dmitry Medvedev is often drunk when he writes his apocalyptic threats of nuclear war'], Daily Mail, June 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://nypost.com/2023/06/14/putins-staff-start-each-day-with-bottle-of-vodka-report/ Putin’s ‘stressed’ administration staff start each day with bottle of vodka: report], NY Post, 2023&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Alcoholism in Russia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sweet dreams tonight. I hope you don't have any nightmares about nuclear war. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:19, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yah, I saw that. War propaganda if there ever was any. This is how Western [[MSM]] is trying to prepare the public and soften the blow for the news it lost in the Ukraine war. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:21, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Even if true (which it isn't) only a [[brainwashed]] fool would sleep easier knowing a bunch of drunks and a demented individual have their fingers on the [[nuke]]. Case study in the effects of propaganda, and delivering its intent on its targets. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:As Sam Garrens says, propaganda begins from the premise that you are stupid, and User:Conservative cut n pasting these links to several pages bears this out. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:33, November 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Request==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please join the [[Conservapedia:CP Civility Association]]. It is an organization for people who believe that civility is a basic thing expected of CP members, not just towards people who [[Team CP|join a cult]].  &lt;br /&gt;
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You can also add this to your user page:&lt;br /&gt;
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Sincerely, [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:15, November 7, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the invite, but:&lt;br /&gt;
:#I'm not a conservative.&lt;br /&gt;
:#I'm not great re. civility.&lt;br /&gt;
:#I'm pretty sure I'm only tolerated here '''because''' I refrain from editing mainspace.&lt;br /&gt;
:Good luck, though. If sanity ever prevails, I'm definitely up for sending Rob's fan fiction [https://ahc.leeds.ac.uk/discover-dante/doc/inferno/page/5 back where it belongs.] [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:58, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fan fiction is important for &amp;quot;narrative development&amp;quot;. RobSmith complains that I don't spend enough time on narrative development as far as main page right news. While I do like the story of Alice in Wonderland, I do prefer reality over fictional stories/narratives. &lt;br /&gt;
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::He also finds my view of the war in Ukraine &amp;quot;uninspiring&amp;quot; which I gave a response to [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Essay:_Doomsday_phobias_-_including_nucleomituphobia_caused_by_Russian_threats_to_use_a_nuclear_bomb&amp;amp;diff=2003247&amp;amp;oldid=2003246 HERE]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:04, November 12, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Doomsday phobias - including nucleomituphobia caused by Russian threats to use a nuclear bomb ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Check out my new essay at: [[Essay: Doomsday phobias - including nucleomituphobia caused by Russian threats to use a nuclear bomb]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Symptoms of nucleomituphobia:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Symptoms of necleomituphobia.jpg|thumbnail|center|700px|The symptoms of nucleomituphobia are given above.[http://www.changethatsrightnow.com/nucleomituphobia/symptoms/] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Clear}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Try not to think too much about the possibility of nuclear annihilation throughout the day if you read this essay in the morning. Cheers. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:48, November 8, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I am helping get the word out about how significant February 2020 was on the future of global politics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please read: [[Essay: February 2022 might prove to be a pivotal moment in the future of global politics]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Let me know what you think. I am a big fan of the French historian Ferdinand Braudel. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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=== One partial explanation on why I am less &amp;quot;Putincentric&amp;quot; and less focused on the war in Ukraine than a certain Conservapedian ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel Fernand Braudel]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.britannica.com/topic/Annales-school Annales school of history]: &amp;quot;Annales school, School of history. Established by Lucien Febvre (1878–1956) and Marc Bloch (1886–1944), its roots were in the journal Annales: économies, sociétés, civilisations, Febvre’s reconstituted version of a journal he had earlier formed with Marc Bloch. Under Fernand Braudel’s direction the Annales school promoted a new form of history, replacing the study of leaders with the lives of ordinary people and replacing examination of politics, diplomacy, and wars with inquiries into climate, demography, agriculture, commerce, technology, transportation, and communication, as well as social groups and mentalities. While aiming at a “total history,” it also yielded dazzling microstudies of villages and regions. Its international influence on historiography has been enormous.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Flag of France.png|thumbnail|275px|center|'''Questions:''' '''1)''' Does [[User: Conservative]] have a French heritage? '''2)''' Is User: Conservative a fan of [https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel Fernand Braudel] ?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]] wrote: &amp;quot;Those of low estate are but a breath, those of high estate are a delusion; in the balances they go up; they are together lighter than a breath.&amp;quot; - [[Psalm]] 62:9 (NRSV).&lt;br /&gt;
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Long live the Annales school of history! Vive la France! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:50, November 13, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ahh, these guys were a bunch of socialists, ya know. But that's ok; User:Conservative's mind is so brainwashed and polluted at this stage, it doesn't really make a difference anymore. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:58, November 13, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Flatline.PNG|right|300px|thumb|Once again, User:Conservative's brainwaves flat line.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Under Braudel’s direction the Annales school acquired a global reputation for promoting a new form of history. It replaced the study of leaders with the lives of ordinary people and supplanted the hallowed trio of politics, diplomacy, and wars with inquiries into climate, demography, agriculture, commerce, technology, transportation, and communication, as well as social groups and mentalities. '''Annales history further challenged the reductionism of the Marxists''' and the structuralism of the social sciences, its main competitors at the vanguard of postwar historiography. It aimed at a “total history” that relied heavily on quantification and also yielded dazzling microstudies of villages and regions. Braudel’s most significant contribution was his three-tiered view of historical time. Conceived while he was in captivity in 1944, it consisted of very long, practically immobile environmental time (the longue durée); the medium time of economies, societies, and cultures; and the short time of discrete events (the subject of histoire événementielle). Far from a simple flow, human experience was registered on all three clocks, operated with speed-ups and delays, and left a vast range of physical as well as mental traces.&amp;quot;[https://www.britannica.com/biography/Fernand-Braudel] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:20, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Goodreads: [https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/183811.The_Marxism_Annales_World_System_Synthesis The Marxism-Annales-World System Synthesis]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:33, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I clicked the link. Lacks evidential support for your assertion and shows that you are very desperate! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:09, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Okay Mr. Ace Researcher: both Febvre &amp;amp; Braudel lived and worked under the [[Vichy regime]]; show me an original source document (in French or any other language) that explains where and what these guys were doing in the timeframe of 1940-1944, and by what means they were supported. It shouldn't be too hard, mapping the history of historians. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:09, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::So if you can't prove they were associated with the [[Comintern]] or getting covert U.S. funding aid, then they must've have been Nazi-collaborators with the Vichy regime through a state-funded educational institution.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Get thee behind me, Satan'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:16, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
Your [[guilt by association]] logical fallacy tactic failed miserably when the rubber meets the road. You tried to make the businessman [[Bill Browder]] a hardcore communist, but that crashed and burned when you couldn't find a single source. Also, your illogical fallacy of composition &amp;quot;reasoning&amp;quot; is equally a big failure. For example, just because I cited Zeihan about Russian demographics means that I necessarily agree with everything he claims and that I don't understand some of his weaknesses like his overreliance on geography, demographics, economic factors and his other faults (The same applies to Mearsheimer who I also don't agree with 100%). &lt;br /&gt;
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But your greatest weakness is your lack of integrity which displays itself by making things up that you know are lies (Gossiping, Bill Browder is allegedly an avowed communist, and there are supposedly multiple sources that claim something when you know there are not such as the [[Karen Dawisha]] article). Everyone knows you are a liar and that is why you are not respected (But is also due to your abusive nature). And when I thought you could go no lower than being a pathological liar, you surprised even me by transforming yourself into high school girl-like gossiper with idiotic, far-fetched gossip so now I see you as being pathetically weak. As a result of your lack of integrity, you often engage in denialism (historical revisionism, etc.) because once someone lies to others prolifically, they naturally lie to themselves prolifically as well. Your attempt to whitewash Ivan the Terrible and Vladmir Putin are great examples of this as is your attempt to make Russia, which has low church attendance, big problems with alcoholism/AIDS, high divorce/abortion rates and a low fertility rate into some kind of holy nation.  In addition, you pretend that Peter Zeihan is the only person whose work I cited about Russian demography, but that is untrue as evidenced by my citation of the Russian demographer Salavat Abylkalikov (See: [[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]). I can accept cold hard truths such as US/Western foibles/weaknesses, but you can't do the same with Russia and China. For example, show me a nation that dramatically turned around its low fertility rate into a replacement fertility rate in the 21st century. You can't do it. The highest correlation with a replacement level of births in a population is religiosity and Russians are obviously not a holy nation.  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, your grasp of logic, critical thinking, statistical analysis, economics and cultures is substandard as well. &lt;br /&gt;
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My biggest mistake was interacting with you too much via talk pages, etc.  I am not going to make that mistake again. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 13:19, November 14, 2023 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ex-atheists&amp;diff=2003828</id>
		<title>Ex-atheists</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Mlogo.jpg|thumbnail|150px|right|Ex-atheist [[Lee Strobel]]]] &lt;br /&gt;
There have been some notable incidences of [[atheism|atheists]] converting to [[theism]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Lee Strobel]] converted from atheism to Christianity and then became a [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&amp;amp;id=3884&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before investigating the claims of Christianity, Strobel had obtained an undergraduate degree in journalism and also obtained a Master of Studies in Law degree from [[Yale]] Law School. Strobel was an award-winning legal editor of the [[Chicago Tribune]], and he won [[Illinois]]’ top honors for investigative reporting (which he shared with a team he led) and public service journalism from [[United Press International]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&amp;amp;id=3884&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After a nearly a two year investigation of the evidence for Christianity, Strobel became a Christian.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.leestrobel.com/LS_bio.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Although [[Richard Dawkins]] declared he was an [[agnosticism|agnostic]] in 2006 and 2012, in 2002 Richard Dawkins publicly argued for the position of [[militant atheism]] and claimed that he will not feel anything after death.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/02/mailvox-richard-dawkins-is-not-atheist.html Mailvox: Richard Dawkins is not an atheist!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3_rGbiT_3c Richard Dawkins Says He's Agnostic -- NOT atheist - video testimony of Richard Dawkins saying he is not an atheist, but an agnostic]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.ted.com/talks/richard_dawkins_on_militant_atheism.html Richard Dawkins on militant atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Richard Dawkins and agnosticism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[C.S. Lewis]] abandoned his atheism and became a Christian and he was very much influenced by the writings of [[George MacDonald]] and [[G. K. Chesterton]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_n23_v47/ai_17863106&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In ''Surprised by Joy'', Lewis says: &amp;quot;''In reading Chesterton, as in reading MacDonald, I did not know what I was letting myself in for. A young man who wishes to remain a sound Atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. God is, if I may say it, very unscrupulous.''&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;'''Lewis''', ''Surprised by Joy'' op cit.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Britain|British]] philosopher [[Anthony Flew]] abandoned atheism and became an [[Deism|deist]] after as a result of the [[intelligent design]] issue. According to the news organization [[MSNBC]], Flew became a deist because he believed a super-intelligence was the only good explanation for the [[origin of life]] and the complexity of nature.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6688917/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2006, Flew and 12 prominent academics urged that intelligent design be taught in [[Britain|British]] government schools.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/newspapers/sunday_times/britain/article1265412.ece?token=null&amp;amp;offset=12&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The work of ex-atheist and psychologist Dr. [[Paul Vitz]] is often cited in regards to atheism. Dr. Vitz wrote the work ''Faith of the Fatherless'' which is a book which touches upon the subject of the [[Causes of Atheism|causal factors in regards to atheism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Other ex-atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Alister McGrath.jpg|right|thumb|175px|[[Alister McGrath]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Ex-atheist testimonies of Christians]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Alister McGrath]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn]], Russian Orthodox Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Peter Hitchens]], Christian and former Communist&lt;br /&gt;
*John Warwick Montgomery, [[Christian legal apologetics|Christian legal apologist]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://jamesbishopblog.com/2017/02/27/evidence-for-jesus-resurrection-leads-distinguished-philosopher-atheist-john-montgomery-to-faith/ EVIDENCE FOR JESUS’ RESURRECTION LEADS DISTINGUISHED PHILOSOPHER &amp;amp; ATHEIST, JOHN MONTGOMERY, TO FAITH.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mark Zuckerberg]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ayaan Hirsi Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Enoch Powell]], politician, Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*A.N. Wilson&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newstatesman.com/religion/2009/04/conversion-experience-atheism A N Wilson: Why I believe again]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John C. Wright (author)|John C. Wright]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.scifiwright.com/2017/02/the-last-crusade-rip-van-con/ The Last Crusade: Rip van Con] by John C. Wright&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Stephen Colbert]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/stephen-colbert-reveals-why-he-lost-his-faith-before-returning-to-catholicism Stephen Colbert reveals why he returned to Catholicism after losing his faith]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Teresa MacBain, Methodist&lt;br /&gt;
*Tamsin Greig, Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*Keir Hardie, Protestant Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*Gabriel Marcel, Catholic Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dmitry Medvedev]], Russian Orthodox Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*Nursultan Nazarbayev, Muslim&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Anne Rice]], believes in Jesus Christ and God, but no longer considers herself a Christian&lt;br /&gt;
*Sita Ram Goel, Hindu&lt;br /&gt;
*Martin Lings, Muslim&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Wood]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Evidence related to Antony Flew's conversion to theism/deism ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Richard Carrier.jpg|thumbnail|165px|left|[[Richard Carrier]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Athanatos Christian Ministries]] wrote concerning the book ''A Defense of the Integrity of Antony Flew's &amp;quot;There is a God&amp;quot; From His Own Letters'' by Anthony Horvath: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Famed atheist Antony Flew stunned the world with his repudiation of atheism in favor of deism about 2004 but the reasons for his change were unclear. Finally, in 2007, Flew released his book ''There Is a God: How the World’s Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind'' in an attempt to set the record straight.” It was immediately challenged by hostile atheists on a number of grounds, not all of them very charitable. One of the challenges was put forth most prominently by [[PZ Myers]] and [[Richard Carrier]]: Flew had lost his mind; the arguments weren’t his at all, but rather were the product of manipulating Christian apologists.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is just one teensy-weensy problem with this line of attack. In 2006, before it was even known to the world that Antony Flew would be releasing a book, a Christian apologist and author by the name of Anthony Horvath (Athanatos Christian Ministries) was in correspondence with Dr. Flew. Horvath wrote Flew specifically to ask him to commit his current positions and arguments to written form because even then there was much speculation. The answer was that the book was already in the works!&lt;br /&gt;
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The correspondence was brief but turns out to be decisive against those claiming that “There is a God” did not reflect Flew’s actual positions. In this e-book, Horvath releases copies of the original letters along with his lengthy rebuttal to Richard Carrier’s assertions. To date, though Carrier has been made aware of that rebuttal, no answer has been received. And no wonder: these letters settle the matter once and for all.&lt;br /&gt;
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For those interested in the best evidence and primary sources in coming to their conclusions, these letters by Flew will be instrumental.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://athanatosministries.org/store/products/a-defense-of-the-integrity-of-antony-flews-there-is-a-god-from-his-own-letters ''A Defense of the Integrity of Antony Flew's &amp;quot;There is a God&amp;quot; From His Own Letters''] by Anthony Horvath, Publisher: Athanatos Christian Ministries, September 3, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and its retention rate in individuals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See: [[Atheism and its retention rate in individuals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recommended books ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Surprised by Joy: The Shape of My Early Life'' by C.S. Lewis, Harcourt, Brace, Jovanovich (March 23, 1966), ISBN 0156870118, ISBN 978-0156870115&lt;br /&gt;
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*''There is a God: How the World's Most Notorious Atheist Changed His Mind'' by Anthony Flew (2007) with Roy Abraham Varghese (ISBN 978-0-06-133529-7)&lt;br /&gt;
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*''A Defense of the Integrity of Antony Flew's &amp;quot;There is a God&amp;quot; From His Own Letters'' by Anthony Horvath, Publisher: [[Athanatos Christian Ministries]], September 3, 2011&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://athanatosministries.org/store/products/a-defense-of-the-integrity-of-antony-flews-there-is-a-god-from-his-own-letters ''A Defense of the Integrity of Antony Flew's &amp;quot;There is a God&amp;quot; From His Own Letters''] by Anthony Horvath, Publisher: [[Athanatos Christian Ministries]], September 3, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Conversion from atheism to Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ex-agnostics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Books on the causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2023/july-august/atheists-finding-god-jana-harmon-stories-faith.html 50 Atheists Found Christ. This Researcher Found Out Why.], ''Christianity Today'', 2023&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/christian-trends/why-are-so-many-former-atheists-coming-to-christ.html Why are So Many Former Atheists Coming to Christ?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.shockawenow.net Resource created by an ex-atheist]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
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'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and [[Ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
When Ali was an atheist she wrote an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of Hirsi Magan Isse, a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Former beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. As an atheist, she stated that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Former activism as an atheist ==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003826</id>
		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003826"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T09:58:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Former beliefs */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali.JPG|thumbnail|right|125px|Ayaan Hirsi Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and [[Ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
When Ali was an atheist she wrote an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of Hirsi Magan Isse, a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Former beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. As an atheist, she stated that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Activism==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003825</id>
		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003825"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T09:58:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Beliefs */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali.JPG|thumbnail|right|125px|Ayaan Hirsi Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and [[Ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
When Ali was an atheist she wrote an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of Hirsi Magan Isse, a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Former beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. Although an atheist, she states that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Activism==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003824</id>
		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003824"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T09:57:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Personal life */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali.JPG|thumbnail|right|125px|Ayaan Hirsi Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and [[Ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
When Ali was an atheist she wrote an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of Hirsi Magan Isse, a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. Although an atheist, she states that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Activism==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003823</id>
		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003823"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T09:57:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Literary works */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;[[File:Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali.JPG|thumbnail|right|125px|Ayaan Hirsi Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and [[Ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
When Ali was an atheist she wrote an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of [[Hirsi Magan Isse]], a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. Although an atheist, she states that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Activism==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003822</id>
		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003822"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T09:56:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: &lt;/p&gt;
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'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and [[Ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
She has written an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of [[Hirsi Magan Isse]], a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. Although an atheist, she states that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Activism==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003821</id>
		<title>Ayaan Hirsi Ali</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ayaan_Hirsi_Ali&amp;diff=2003821"/>
		<updated>2023-11-14T09:55:59Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali.JPG|thumbnail|right|125px|Ayaan Hirsi Ali]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Ayaan Hirsi Ali''' (born ''Ayaan Hirsi Magan'') is an [[American]]-[[Netherlands|Dutch]] Christian and ex-atheist and former Muslim from [[Somalia|Somali]] ancestry, political speaker, and author of several books.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://unherd.com/2023/11/why-i-am-now-a-christian/ Why I am now a Christian] by Ayaan Hirsi Ali&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Time magazine]] named her as one of the 100 most influential people in the world in 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Literary works==&lt;br /&gt;
She has written an autobiography, ''Infidel'' in which she recounts her life story and how she ceased believing in [[Islam]] and became an [[atheist]], a set of essays entitled ''The Caged Virgin'', further discussing the role of women in Islam, and a recent book ''Nomad'' in which she further recounts her life story and discusses how best to address the difficulty facing Western communities in which [[Muslim]] refugees have settled. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Personal life==&lt;br /&gt;
Born in 1969 in [[Somalia]], the second of three children born to the second wife of [[Hirsi Magan Isse]], a Somalian leader known for his organized opposition to [[Siad Barre]], she was raised there and with her mother and two siblings (a sister and brother) resided for a time in several other countries, most notably [[Saudi Arabia]], [[Ethiopia]] and [[Kenya]], before fleeing to the [[Netherlands]] in order to escape an arranged [[marriage]], she currently lives in the United States. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Asylum==&lt;br /&gt;
When applying for [[asylum]], she changed her last name from ''Magan'' to ''Ali'' which was one her of Grandfather's names. She was granted Dutch citizenship, learned the language quickly, and worked as a translator for recently arrived Somalians. She applied for and was accepted to [[Leiden]] University, where she earned a degree in [[political science]]. She then obtained a seat in the Dutch [[Parliament]], the Tweede Kamer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4985636.stm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Her Dutch citizenship was rescinded some years later due to the fact that she gave a different name and birthdate on her application for asylum, and she resigned from Parliament. Shortly after this, Hirsi Ali moved to the United States.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Beliefs==&lt;br /&gt;
Although she spent most of her early life as a devout Muslim, after the attacks on the [[World Trade Center]]s in [[America]] on September 11, she re-examined her beliefs. She had become disenchanted with her religion, and saw contradictions in it. After reading ''Atheistisch Manifest'' (Atheist Manifesto) authored by Herman Philipse, a professor of philosophy at [[Utrecht University]], she became an outspoken [[atheism|atheist]]. Although an atheist, she states that she considers the influence of the Christian community to be a positive force and one solution to helping Muslim refugees adapt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Activism==&lt;br /&gt;
After making a 10-minute short film with noted Dutch Film Maker [[Theo Van Gogh]], entitled [[Submission (film)|''&amp;quot;Submission&amp;quot;'']], a [[fatwa]] (proclamation of death) was issued on her, and Theo Van Gogh was killed. Henceforth, she does not travel to Muslim countries without police protection. She now resides and works in the United States. In 2011 she married British historian and fellow atheist Niall Ferguson &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/8770965/Henry-Kissinger-watches-historian-Niall-Ferguson-marry-Ayaan-Hirsi-Ali-under-a-fatwa.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and in 2012 gave birth to a son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2011/12/ayaan_hirsi_ali_gives_birth_to.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist community double standards: Muslim men misogyny vs. atheist men misogyny ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In recent times, atheists have put in a lot of effort and focus into decrying the deplorable treatment of many [[Islam|Muslim]] women by Muslim men, yet the same degree of attention about the high amount of physical abuse atheist women endure at the hands of atheist men via domestic abuse and the other forms of abuse is not given nearly the same amount of import by many in the atheist community.{{citation needed}} See: [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, Ayaan Hirsi Ali was chosen to be the keynote speaker of the [[American Atheists]] convention in 2014 and in 2005 the secular left leaning ''Time'' magazine named her one of the most 100 influential people in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheists.org/convention2015 2015 American Atheists National Convention]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wwsg.com/ayaan-hirsi-ali Ayaan Hirsi Ali - Time magazine's 100 most influential people in the world]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet, the women who point out misogyny in [[Western World]] atheism receive torrents of abuse{{citation needed}} (see: [[Atheism and women]]) and are not highly lauded by the atheist community to nearly the same degree. See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]{{citation needed}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ali, Ayaan Hirsi}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:American Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Women Authors]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Dutch Politicians]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Feminists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Ex-Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Former Muslims]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Islam Critics]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&amp;diff=1995637</id>
		<title>User talk:Aschlafly</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&amp;diff=1995637"/>
		<updated>2023-10-18T17:57:03Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia. Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are? Am I moving to Russia? Nyet!&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;lt;center&amp;gt;''Welcome to Aschlafly's talk page. Please place complaints about other users or other [[trolling]] content at [[Conservapedia:User complaints]]. If Andy is interested in hearing your complaint, he will respond there. Thank you.''&amp;lt;/center&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request on behalf of another person. Update: Please ignore this request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Andy, I am canceling this request. The person does not want to read classic conservative books and articles.'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
:&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Correct, my only main reading list is the Holy Scriptures.'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, could you please share with me a list of books that you would recommend for someone who wants to know more about conservativism. &lt;br /&gt;
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Below is the reading list, I came up with so far.&lt;br /&gt;
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Essays/articles: &lt;br /&gt;
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'''1.''' [https://kirkcenter.org/conservatism/ten-conservative-principles/ Ten Conservative Principles] by [[Russell Kirk]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2.''' [https://press.armywarcollege.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1764&amp;amp;context=parameters The Fate of the State] by MARTIN VAN CREVELD, a historian (The article is on big government and how it is losing power and/or effectiveness). &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Books:''' &lt;br /&gt;
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1. A Philosophical Enquiry into the Origin of Our Ideas of the Sublime and Beautiful (1757) by [[Edmund Burke]],  [http://www.bartleby.com/24/2/ Complete text of the book online]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2.''' Russell Kirk's book: ''The Conservative Mind from Burke to Santayana'' (1953), put Burke in the mainstream of [[American conservatism]]. Copy of book: [http://www.questia.com/read/55416563?title=The%20Conservative%20Mind%2c%20from%20Burke%20to%20Santayana online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''3.''' [https://www.amazon.com/Wealth-Poverty-Politics-Thomas-Sowell/dp/046509676X/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1J8L1KBNIH7H1&amp;amp;keywords=Wealth%2C+Poverty%2C+and+Politics&amp;amp;qid=1671773443&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;sprefix=wealth%2C+poverty%2C+and+politics%2Cstripbooks%2C358&amp;amp;sr=1-1 Wealth, Poverty, and Politics] by [[Thomas Sowell]]; '''Video:''' [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGYl17DiEwo Wealth, Poverty, and Politics] by Thomas Sowell&lt;br /&gt;
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'''4.''' [https://www.amazon.com/Equality-Impossible-Martin-Van-Creveld/dp/9527065526/ref=sr_1_18/154-0989455-4877061?s=books&amp;amp;ie=UTF8&amp;amp;qid=1478421566&amp;amp;sr=1-18&amp;amp;refinements=p_27%3AMartin+Van+Creveld Equality: The Impossible Quest] by the historian Martin van Creveld&lt;br /&gt;
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'''5.''' ''A Choice Not an Echo'' by [[Phyllis Schlafly]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks in advance. &lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, if Conservapedians come up with a list of articles and books, a recommended reading page could be created called [[Classic conservative books and articles]] or [[Conservapedia: Recommended conservative books and articles reading list]] or some other name for the page. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:03, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I'd recommend the classic, [[Talk:Essay: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic sissies in the world|Essay: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic sissies in the world]] for a survey of conservative values. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:37, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Fantastic  idea. I just restored the essay at: [[Essay: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic sissies in the world|7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic sissies in the world]]&lt;br /&gt;
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::I always thought the essay should not have been deleted, but I errantly chose not to stand my ground on principle.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:19, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::&amp;quot;I errantly chose not to backdown&amp;quot;. Keep going. I need more material for [[Essay: Does ignorance, stubbornness, and stupidity define conservativism?]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:29, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I have learned that you should never back down to non-conservatives because they never can be placated. In other words, appeasement is not a valid strategy. So never back down. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::And given how much Andy is against the [[homosexual agenda]], I am sure that he will never allow the essay to be deleted in order to placate a non-conservative. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::And the timing is perfect. Now only Andy can delete web pages with more than 25 edits. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:40, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Interestig theory; the problem is you need the [https://biblehub.com/kjv/hebrews/5-14.htm powers of discernment] to recognize who or what is conservative. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:45, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
After allowing the essay to be deleted, I subsequently read a classic best-selling book on assertiveness. It is a classic book on that topic. Never back down! &lt;br /&gt;
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At the same time, wisely choosing your battles is wise too. &amp;quot;Move not unless you see an advantage; use not your troops unless there is something to be gained; fight not unless the position is critical.&amp;quot; - [[Sun Tzu]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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In retrospect, it was not a matter of appeasement. I just thought at the time that the battle was not worth it at the time. But now it is much harder to people to delete essays/articles. In addition, Andy has given a higher priority to conservatives fighting the [[homosexual agenda]] so I have an ally who places a higher priority on Conservapedia keeping such essays. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:06, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, wait. The essay has been preserved. I merely retitled the essay. The essay is at: [[Essay: 7 reasons the godless British have become the most pathetic pantywaists in the world]]. So I will ask Andy to delete the essay because it is a duplicative essay. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:11, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::See, I don't understand this. You spent hundreds of hours reporting on decrepit UK infrastructure and potholes. Now that we have two reports in the past few days,&lt;br /&gt;
::*'''Decrepit [[Britain]]…''' schools collapsing and [[Ukraine counteroffensive|Challenger tanks blown to smithereens]]. [https://thealtworld.com/finian_cunningham/decrepit-britain-schools-collapsing-and-challenger-tanks-blown-to-smithereens] &lt;br /&gt;
::*As British schools crumble [https://consortiumnews.com/2023/09/18/as-british-schools-crumble/]&lt;br /&gt;
::about 1,000 British concrete school structures crumbling and being a life hazard to school children, you ignore the evidence. &lt;br /&gt;
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::You might actually have something to add to [[Conservapedia proven right]]. 17:43, September 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In the current state of this world, no one truly needs all those books by Phyllis Schlafly, Russell Kirk, or whoever. All we need is the Bible to warn of what is to come so we are ready for the perilous times. What does it matter how &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; you are by pointless &amp;quot;right-wing populist&amp;quot; standards if you end up on the wrong side of Judgment?&lt;br /&gt;
:By the way, Phyllis Schlafly [https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/phyllis-schlafly-the-mother-of-right-wing-populism/2016/09/07/63862514-7539-11e6-b786-19d0cb1ed06c_story.html supported Moderate Republican Nixon over right-wing populist Reagan in 1968]. Also, her effort to tie the Goldwater wing of the GOP to the Taft wing is an ahistorical, hasty generalization—Taft led the isolationist [[Old Right]], while Goldwater Republicanism was an outgrowth of the Eisenhower-affiliated [[New Right]]. [https://mises.org/library/swan-song-old-right Rothbard breaks it down perfectly.] —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Tuesday, 11:28, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::''We do not have a spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.''&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:31, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::&amp;quot;We go to Paradise, but they won't have time to repent.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:::[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== If Jesus wrote Hebrews, how would you explain this? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty; with whom, if he come shortly, I will see you.&amp;quot; (Hebrews 13:23) This doesn't sound like it would make sense under the theory that the [[Epistle to the Hebrews]] was Jesus's sermon on the road to Emmaus. Timothy is mentioned nowhere in the Gospels and his name only first shows up in Acts chapter 16.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, in the [[King James Bible]], the last verse of Hebrews contains the additional: &amp;quot;(Written to the Hebrews from Italy, by Timothy.)&amp;quot; While I earlier believed your assertion that Jesus could've wrote Hebrews, I'm now mostly convinced of Pauline authorship. What are your thoughts on this, Andy? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 21:46, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The original [[Epistle to the Hebrews]] ends with 13:21, where there is a final &amp;quot;[[Amen]]&amp;quot;.  The subsequent verses are later additions, perhaps to support the incorrect attribution to [[Paul]].  Linguistic analysis is very scientific today and almost no expert today clings to the view that Paul wrote this letter.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Evidence? As far as I'm concerned with manuscripts, the Gnostic-corrupted [[Codex Vaticanus]] simply ends Hebrews after verse 9:13 (probably because the subsequent passages contradict pagan Roman and Alexandrian doctrines), and if other early manuscripts ended in verse 13:21, how come 13:22–25 are in modern translations, especially in comparison to the excluding of countless other &amp;quot;disputed verses&amp;quot;? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 23:33, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Modern translations add notes about disputed verses when they are not in the oldest extant versions, but there are additional ways to identify disputed versions.  This is a flaw in modern versions in not using all the logical means available today for spotting the vandalism to the [[Bible]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:13, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Hmm... interesting analysis. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 12:25, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, on a side note, did you notice my post slightly above about the Mosaic law? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 23:34, September 19, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'll take a look!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:13, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Awesome; after a long time of me not fully understanding the New Covenant and &amp;quot;the law,&amp;quot; more recently I came to these new conclusions while prayerfully reading Hebrews one morning. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 12:25, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mission accomplished! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Take a look at [https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&amp;amp;q=atheism,atheist,agnostic,agnosticism THIS] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/Freedom_From_Religion_Foundation#Loss_of_Google_referral_traffic_for_the_Freedom_From_Religion_Foundation_website THIS] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/Freedom_From_Religion_Foundation#Google_Trends:_The_amount_of_people_searching_for_the_term_Freedom_From_Religion_Foundation_has_declined THIS].&lt;br /&gt;
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I became an editor of Conservapedia with the goal of assisting Christendom to help cause the [[atheist movement]] to die (See: [[Decline of the atheist movement]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Mission accomplished! &lt;br /&gt;
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On behalf of all Christians on the internet, I hereby declare victory! Olé! Olé! Olé! &lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Success ahead.jpg|thumbnail|center|400px|Have you read Conservapedia's [[Future of Christianity]] article?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And take a look at these articles: [[Internet evangelism: Christians vs. atheists]] and [[Internet outreach and the Matthew effect: Atheist websites vs. religious websites]] and [https://www.conservapedia.com/Internet_atheism#Sam_Harris.27_website Large list of atheist websites that have lost web traffic - with supporting data] and [[Internet atheism has a small audience and an insignificant influence on the world]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Christendom will be going from one glorious victory to another glorious victory on the information superhighway! Deus vult! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:13, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Make up your mind, [[Christendom]] or [[demonology]]. Seems to me you're more an expert on the later. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:38, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::[https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:DMorris&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1984138 Only now you're looking into faith /works?] &lt;br /&gt;
:::&amp;quot;I think I may have to understand the Greek better, do more Bible exegesis, etc.&amp;quot; bla bla bla. &lt;br /&gt;
::if you read James, you would have read, ''If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, who gives generously to all without reproach, and it will be given him,'' but maybe you don't believe what God says, and would rather keep trolling us with this incessant nonsense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:46, September 20, 2023 (EDT). &lt;br /&gt;
:::[EC] One think that irked me is that Conservative has more than once told me I need to study according to man-made &amp;quot;Bible exegesis&amp;quot; in order to understand the word better. Wow, because the Holy Spirit is just too incompetent, eh? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 10:49, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh c'mon, I told you repeatedly: the &amp;quot;atheist movement&amp;quot; at this point means nothing because it only represents a tiny fraction of atheists, many of whom fell away from Christianity because of insufficiently faithful parents. If you're trying to smash atheism, it hasn't worked in terms of influencing the younger generations. Women in the past were more devoutly Christian than men were (I think Phyllis Schlafly wrote about this on Eagle Forum I read years ago about how older generations of women were more socially conservative? Hopefully my memory isn't failing me.); women nowadays are more inclined towards neo-Marxist cultural insanity like the notion that they have the right to sacrifice their unborn children to Moloch. Hardly among my peers in my teenage years have I ever found girls who are pro-life, a position more often men take because they have better capability to grasp basic logic and not let third-rate, emotionally driven propaganda get in the way of.&lt;br /&gt;
:If atheism was defeated, its fruits would likewise diminish. Since, you know, atheism is clearly linked to things like [[homosexuality]] (see: [[Atheism and homosexuality]]), [[violence]] (see: [[Atheism and violence]]), and [[mass murder]] (see: [[Atheism and Mass Murder]]), the fact that homosexuality, general violence/crime, and mass murder rapidly increase in society nowadays probably is a sign that your declared &amp;quot;victory&amp;quot; is bogus. I'm really sorry to say all this, Conservative, and please don't take this personally; it's the plain simple truth you need to face sooner than later. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 10:12, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Google Trends atheism and agnosticism terms 9-2-2023.jpg|thumbnail|center|1200px|According to Google trends, there has been a large decrease in Google searches in the world for the following terms: atheist, atheism, agnostic and agnosticism. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheist defeat after atheist defeat after atheist defeat! That's ok. Atheists are used to losing! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:32, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Did you read ''anything'' I said? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 10:34, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::My graph was a Google Trends graph for the world. The United States population is equivalent to 4.23% of the total world population. Furthermore, post 2050 or sooner, a trend of [[desecularization]] is expected to occur in the United States (See: [[United States, irreligion vs. religion and demographics]]). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:42, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::In the name of Richard Dawkins's long-lost machismo, will you please pay attention to my larger emphasis? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 10:44, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;big&amp;gt;'''Preaching anti-[[atheism]] ''is not'' preaching the [[Gospel]] of [[Jesus Christ]].'''&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/big&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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It does nothing to bring souls to salvation. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:52, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no connection, whatsoever, between defeating atheism or internet atheism and furthering Christianity or the Gospel of Jesus Christ. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:56, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Exactly. At the end of the day, the Antichrist will be anti-atheism as well because atheism also denies Lucifer/Satan as &amp;quot;supreme lightbearing god of the universe&amp;quot; or whatever. &amp;quot;Anti-atheist&amp;quot; does not automatically equal pro-God. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 10:58, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Of course. Satanists are theists who believe in a supreme divine spiritual being. They're just confused who that being is. User:Conservative never makes that distinction. He preaches believing in a divine spiritual being is the end of all your problems. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:10, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Exactly. Anti-atheism is like &amp;quot;anti-Communism&amp;quot;; just because you oppose one form of what's bad does not automatically make you good. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 11:12, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
LT, I addressed your arguments concerning anti-atheism content at: [[Talk:Internet atheism]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:36, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Alright, I responded. Hopefully my reply will clarify matters. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 11:40, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::For the benefit of others (Not the person who is fond of using huge print instead of cogent arguments). &lt;br /&gt;
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::Next, [[internet evangelism]] works.  [https://www.christianpost.com/news/study-reveals-internet-evangelism-is-effective.html Study Reveals Internet Evangelism Is Effective], ''Christian Post''&lt;br /&gt;
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::Given the low retention rate of atheists historically, anti-atheism content and internet evangelism is likely going to have an effect. [[Irenaeus]] spent time arguing against Gnosticism. So Christians engaging in [[Christian apologetics]] relative to criticizing another worldview is nothing new. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:06, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Good answer. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:13, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Then why don't you focus on fighting neo-Gnosticism in modern society? It's all around us; you just need to realize it. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 16:51, September 20, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Denial of Pauline authorship of Hebrews is linked to modern translations, it appears ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the KJV, the term &amp;quot;Christ Jesus,&amp;quot; almost entirely Pauline-associated, [https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=%22christ+jesus%22&amp;amp;version=KJV&amp;amp;resultspp=100is is used once in Hebrews]. However, modern translations in verse 3:1 [https://biblehub.com/hebrews/3-1.htm omit the &amp;quot;Christ&amp;quot; part.] Coincidence? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 01:33, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Fascinating!  The [[KJV]] translation did not have access to the oldest texts, which had not yet been discovered.  I wonder if the [[Christ]] in &amp;quot;Christ Jesus&amp;quot; was, like the ending added later after &amp;quot;Amen&amp;quot;, a subsequent addition to Hebrews 3:1.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:10, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Andy, the supposed &amp;quot;oldest texts,&amp;quot; codices Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, are merely the oldest manuscripts ''out of what remains today''. The actual oldest manuscripts are long gone, and the real question is whether codices B and ℵ derive, to its core, from the oldest documents or not. Although copies of manuscripts compiled after the 4th century are indeed &amp;quot;younger&amp;quot; than those two in a literal sense, they are copied from manuscripts that trace to apostolic times long predating Vaticanus and Sinaiticus.&lt;br /&gt;
::For example, the Johannine Comma, excluded in most manuscripts and especially Vaticanus, [http://textus-receptus.com/wiki/1_John_5:7#Waldensians was in the Vaudois (early Waldensian) Bible in 157 A.D.], [https://www.chick.com/information/article?id=is-i-john-5:7-missing-from-older-manuscripts and that was translated from manuscripts given by Antiochian missionaries in the 120s A.D.]—Antioch was the hometown of one of [[John the Apostle]]'s disciples, Ignatius. In addition, as I've mentioned before, Mark 16:19, while gone from Vaticanus, was plainly quoted by [[Irenaeus]] in ''Against Heresies''.&lt;br /&gt;
::Vaticanus omits the entirety of the Pastoral Epistles. Why? Because in the early church era, the Pastorals posed a problem to occultist infiltration of the church, evident in the subversive Gnostic influencer Marcion also omitting them from his own compilation of &amp;quot;canon.&amp;quot; Do you think it's a coincidence that the same modern-day liberal deniers who claim the Pastorals were forgeries gloat upon its absence from Codex Vaticanus and Marcion's compilation? I hope you'll see the larger picture here. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 12:21, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another argument against Jesus writing the Book of Hebrews ==&lt;br /&gt;
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It does quote the historian David Hackett Fischer who wrote: &amp;quot;Evidence must always be affirmative. Negative evidence is no evidence at all. In other words, Fischer is saying that an absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.&amp;quot;  But even so, if God Himself wrote Hebrews through Jesus, one would expect the book to have much excitement and fanfare surrounding it. &lt;br /&gt;
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But here is a stronger principle. There is the principle of letting others sing your praises. I just don't see God personally writing a book where He praises Himself. For example, the book of Hebrews starts out: &amp;quot;In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven. So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs.&amp;quot; [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:27, September 21, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Waaa! Boo Hoo!==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Reminder: Conservapedia Guidelines say Doxing is Inappropriate Behavior ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Engaging in doxxing. Doxxing is the criminal practice of releasing private or sensitive information about someone online for the purposes of harassment, intimidation and/or malicious intent.&amp;quot; https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Guidelines#Inappropriate.2Ftrolling_behavior:_Examples&lt;br /&gt;
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Lets make sure we never release personal or private information about others online. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:20, September 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;for the purposes of harassment, intimidation and/or malicious intent&amp;quot;, where did that occur? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:24, September 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Absolutely agreed, NishantXavier. Leaking emails is a ☭liberal☭ trait. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 19:33, September 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Agreed, LT. I got doxed too on an Atheist forum: https://atheistforums.org/thread-65196.html Nothing major, I preached the Gospel to the 1000s there (https://atheistforums.org/thread-65094.html), gave various Apologetic Evidences for God and Christianity, then got doxed about my One Peter Five and other stuff, with malicious intent, then got banned from that Atheist Forum for complaining. Lol, but anyway, I did my duty to the Lord there, so I'm happy. But yeah, I would just say in general, we should never mention personal or private information about others here. Still at work, and will sign off shortly, haven't read all the details here yet. I signed the CP pledge recently and intend to abide by it. I hope we all do. Whatever the past, let's make sure, in future, we never share anything personal or private about others. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:41, September 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;let's make sure, in future, we never share anything personal or private about others&amp;quot; ... just like we would not want others to do to us.&lt;br /&gt;
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Our Lord Jesus Christ said: &amp;quot;Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you: do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.&amp;quot; (Mat 7:12). God Bless. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:44, September 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:ok. Nobody wants to answer my question. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, September 22, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The internal squabbling needs to end. It would be very easy for a more peaceful and courteous atmosphere to begin. I will do my part in this. &lt;br /&gt;
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::As far as Team CP, it is a good concept. Hopefully, we will start fully implementing it as quickly as possible and we won't move backwards. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:41, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I know it's a good concept. You are the one who refuses to take the pledge to abide by CP Guidelines and treat you fellow editors with deference and respect. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::And don't think by adding your name now will change things. It will be a mockery of the whole concept. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:11, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Waaa! Boo Hoo! Part 2==&lt;br /&gt;
Andy, User:Conservative is [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User%3ARobSmith%2FCollection_of_trolling_threads_and_misuse_of_source_materials&amp;amp;diff=1985666&amp;amp;oldid=1985665 invading my User space and violating the Castle Rule.] You have previously ruled several times this a taboo. Please tell him to cease and desist. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:46, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*User Conservative [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&amp;amp;diff=1985596&amp;amp;oldid=1985587 withdrew his accusations of &amp;quot;gossip&amp;quot; this morning.] No apology. No admission of error. Instead, he began a whispering campaign, &amp;quot;5 people bla bla bla&amp;quot; he posted dozens of times throughout CP. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:07, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Please delete this ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please delete this page: [[LGM]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:27, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Let's work together and help ensure Conservapedia cross 1 Billion Page Views - perhaps by Christmas/December 2024 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Let's work together as CP editors to the Common Cause of boosting Conservapedia's page views to a Billion if possible by end of next year. Keeping personal/private non-Conservapedia stuff of the Wiki and focusing on contributing articles on our areas of interest/strength would be the best way to do this imo. If another user told you something private in an email, it really doesn't belong on Conservapedia. God Bless. [[User:NishantXavier|NishantXavier]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:NishantXavier|For Christ the King]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:47, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I've lost three whole days of work this week [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Conservative because of trolling;] I was trying to use the lull in the Ukraine war to begin the Niger &amp;amp; Armenia fronts, and cover the India-Canada dispute. Readers need background information in articles as these stories gain prominence and get distorted in [[MSM]]. But an editor who refuses to take the Cooperative Editing pledge won't let me get anything done. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:51, September 23, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The attacks by a Conservapedia Admin on a current Admin needs to stop completely and if he persists there need to be consequences ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you please delete this file: [[User:Conservative/XYZ]]. Thank you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:36, September 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, the [[Apostle Paul]] taught: &amp;quot;Do not be deceived:‘Bad company ruins good morals.’&amp;quot; (1 Corinthians 15:33). Sometimes it is good to &amp;quot;excommunicate&amp;quot; someone out of your life. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:56, September 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Take a look at it first. It's his brilliant magnum opus [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Conservative/XYZ&amp;amp;oldid=1986448 Essay:Cutting off a gangrenous limb in your life can be quite freeing and enable you to do much more]. &lt;br /&gt;
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:He's been out trolling other [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?limit=500&amp;amp;tagfilter=&amp;amp;title=Special%3AContributions&amp;amp;contribs=user&amp;amp;target=Conservative&amp;amp;namespace=3&amp;amp;tagfilter=&amp;amp;year=2023&amp;amp;month=-1 editors to help cut off a gangrenous limb in his life]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:43, September 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Why modern Bible translations, and almost certainly codices Vaticanus and Sinaiticus, cannot be trusted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Some time ago, I figured out the puzzle to Revelation 19:20, which states, &amp;quot;And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.&amp;quot; (KJV)&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that the King James Bible says &amp;quot;'''a''' lake of fire&amp;quot; and not &amp;quot;'''the''' lake of fire&amp;quot; as modern translations use. ([https://www.biblehub.com/revelation/19-20.htm see comparison here]) Since Revelation 20:10, talking of Satan's final demise and punishment, uses the term &amp;quot;'''the''' lake of fire,&amp;quot; modern translations essentially are saying that the same lake of fire that the beast and false prophet are thrown into before the Millennium in Rev. 19:20 is the same lake of fire in verse 20:10.&lt;br /&gt;
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Contrary to popular belief, the final lake of fire for the wicked will not be in another separate realm. The wicked are resurrected on the Earth, and fire rains down out of Heaven and devours them (Rev. 20:9), which means the final lake of fire at the end of time forms on the surface of the Earth. However, consider the problem with modern translations rendering verse 19:20 as &amp;quot;the lake of fire&amp;quot;: by using the word &amp;quot;the&amp;quot; for lake of fire in both verses, this implies that the same lake of fire at Jesus's second return stays around for a thousand years, and Satan, along the wicked, get thrown there afterwards following Final Judgment. But if this is the case, then how can the lake of fire be on the Earth? Whether you believe that the Millennium is in Heaven under historicism (which holds that the Earth is desolate during the Millennium, not perpetually burning; I hold to this school of eschatological thought, just so you know) or that the Millennium is on Earth under standard theology, it makes no sense either way and results in a contradiction.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is why the King James Bible is the only reliable version between Revelation verses 19:20 and 20:10: it distinguishes between two different lakes of fire, one that's generically referred to as &amp;quot;'''a''' lake of fire&amp;quot; which the beast and false prophet get thrown into before the Millennium, and a final lake of fire (&amp;quot;'''the''' lake of fire&amp;quot;) that forms after the Millennium, following Final Judgment, when Satan and the wicked are destroyed once and for all.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, in the King James Bible for verse 20:10, [https://www.biblehub.com/revelation/20-10.htm there is no &amp;quot;they&amp;quot; added]. It simply says, &amp;quot;And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.&amp;quot; The insertion of the word &amp;quot;they&amp;quot; in there, added by modern translations (even the NKJV, which distorts both verses and is not consistently faithful to the KJV), implies that the beast and false prophet have been burning for a thousand years during the Millennium and are still burning. On a side note, the KJV puts &amp;quot;are&amp;quot; in italics, indicating it's not in the original manuscripts. The Tyndale Bible, which almost completely concurs the KJV with most of what I emphasized on those two verses, [https://studybible.info/Tyndale/Revelation%2020 accurately renders &amp;quot;were&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;are in 20:10].&lt;br /&gt;
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Hopefully you find this information interesting, Andy. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 21:08, September 24, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Request for unprotection of [[Stephen]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you please be able to unprotect [[Stephen]]? It seems to have been protected back in 2010 for no apparent reason. There are a few edits I would like to make to that page (for instance, saying he was the second [[Christian]] [[martyr]], because the article rightly points out that the first was Our Lord [[Jesus]]). [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 20:37, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:39, September 25, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== An indication that Evangelist Mark was Jewish ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Andy, upon extra reconsideration and analysis, I think the [https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=Herodian&amp;amp;version=KJV usage of the term &amp;quot;Herodians&amp;quot;] in the [[Gospel of Mark]] actually proves that its author was a Jew. Simply put, using [[Occam's razor]], it makes sense that the derogatory reference towards one specific sect of Judaism that plunged into apostasy (since &amp;quot;the Herodians&amp;quot; were [https://bibleask.org/who-were-the-herodians/ Hellenistic Jews]) exemplifies a manifestation of intra-Jewish tension where Mark indirectly asserts his own Jewish background and personal adherence to Jewry by excoriating the &amp;quot;traitor&amp;quot; faction(s), IOWs establishing Christianity as the true sect of Judaism and not the other factions (Pharisees, Sadducees, Herodians, etc.). Any cultural renegade within just about any ethnic background can affirm this inherent sentiment, me included.&lt;br /&gt;
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If Mark was a Roman Gentile, why would he go to lengths to single out one particular Jewish sect to castigate, if he supposedly, based off your hypothesis, didn't care as much about Jewish culture compared to, say, Matthew? If Mark was a Gentile and cared about Judaism and Jewry less than other New Testament authors did, this occurrence would be harder to explain. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 21:04, September 28, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: I don't see anything religious about the term &amp;quot;Herodians&amp;quot;, which plainly appears to be a blunt, pejorative reference to those who followed or even respected Herod.  The term seems comparable to the &amp;quot;Clintonista&amp;quot;, which is explained [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Clintonista here].&lt;br /&gt;
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: But thanks for your interesting point about Herodians!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:03, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yeah, no problem; while it's possible that the thought process of an early gentile Roman Christian could likewise creatively conjure up such a clever pejorative, my argument more or less rests on an ''implied'' premise that the circumstantial application is better explained as the outgrowth of a devout Jewish-Christian perspective. This is my general impression on the expressed &amp;quot;Jewishness&amp;quot; of the New Testament authors:&lt;br /&gt;
::*Matthew places a strong emphasis on the Jewish origins of Jesus and His teachings from the very first verse; while verse 27:25 serves as a harsh rebuke of the Judean crowd roused up into inciting the crucifixion, his Gospel account broadly encapsulates the Jewish foundation of the Christian faith&lt;br /&gt;
::*Mark's Jewishness (which, of course, assumes that he was a Jew after all, which I'm about 90% certain though not absolutely sure, seeing your arguments to the contrary) is exemplified differently, more bluntly &amp;quot;reclaiming Judaism from the Judeans&amp;quot; by denouncing the ultra-Hellenized &amp;quot;Herodians&amp;quot;; if one trusts the KJV as reliable and believes that verse 15:28 belongs, then a case for him being a Jew is much easier to substantiate&lt;br /&gt;
::*Luke, while likely not a Jew, notably emphasizes the disciples' adherence to keeping the Sabbath (Luke 23:56)&lt;br /&gt;
::*John likewise establishes that Christianity is the true outgrowth of Judaism and not the other Judean sects; what is commonly translated as &amp;quot;the Jews&amp;quot; almost certainly means &amp;quot;the Judeans&amp;quot; in his Gospel account, which is filled with mentions of Jewish feasts and described by some Jews as &amp;quot;[https://www.google.com/books/edition/John/II-33dS9esAC?hl=en&amp;amp;gbpv=1&amp;amp;dq=israel+abrahams+fourth+gospel&amp;amp;pg=PA10&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover the most Jewish out of the four]&amp;quot;; and since the early church tradition that the same [[Apostle John]] wrote the Johannine Gospel and the [[Book of Revelation]], that indicates that he was indeed a devout Jew&lt;br /&gt;
::*Paul almost certainly understood Judaism better than any of his contemporaries, and his Epistles are written with clear indications that he considers himself a devout Jew (2 Corinthians 11:22, Philippians 3:4–5) when addressing to gentile audiences, emphasizing faith in Christ Jesus as the true completion of &amp;quot;Jewishness&amp;quot; (Romans 2:28–29)&lt;br /&gt;
::*both Peter and Jude in their Epistles echo the essence of traditional Jewish apocalyptic literature&lt;br /&gt;
::*James in his Epistle describes the church as the &amp;quot;twelve tribes of Israel&amp;quot; (James 1:1)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Converts to Christianity, who, say, grew up in Eastern cultures (myself, for example), often end up differing in outlook on life and moral values greatly because they see biblical principles as morally superior to the backwards dogmas they grew up instilled upon by their parents. In essence, those who understand &amp;quot;both worlds&amp;quot; have a complex perspective that presumably most out there who've held the same cultural mindset throughout their life would find difficult to grasp. And in those Eastern cultures, similar to Judaism 2,000 years ago, there are caste-like hierarchical norms set in place which discriminate in some way, for example in East Asian culture often on the basis of age. And I suppose it would be fair to say that some converts from those ethnocultural backgrounds to Christianity, from a new standpoint of biblical values, see (and validly so) their newly shaped mindset as much more compassionate towards the &amp;quot;lower&amp;quot; grades of their ethnocultural group than their older generational counterparts of &amp;quot;tradition adherents&amp;quot; to be. Especially when it comes to women's rights, notably, it is Christianity that liberates women from the condescending attitudes present in the most backwards elements of atheistic, godless East Asian cultures I for one, have grown up experiencing and can largely attest to. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 13:59, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::: The names Mark, Luke, and John are not Jewish names, and they appear nowhere in the [[Old Testament]].  Their writings in the [[New Testament]] are not Jewish as [[Matthew]]'s is.&lt;br /&gt;
::: [[Christianity]] is good for women but so are some other religions in their own ways.  [[Atheism]] is terrible towards women, in contrast.  Christianity is particularly good in rejecting mistreatment of the less fortunate in society.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 15:02, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Yeah, biblical Jewish-Christian values emphasize uplifting women in a way that respects traditional femininity which is under attack by modern-day &amp;quot;feminism.&amp;quot; Women who are virtuous and refrain from the vulgarity of degenerate neo-Marxist culture seem to be unfortunately in decline nowadays.&lt;br /&gt;
::::&amp;quot;Mark&amp;quot; is not a Semitic name, though &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; is, however. The other &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; in the New Testament, [[John the Baptist]], was a Jew born to devout Jews. Likewise, [[John the Apostle]] clearly was a Galilean Jew like Peter, since the sons of Zebedee were fishing partners of Simon and Andrew. (Luke 5:10) (and while &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; may not be entirely rooted in Jewish linguistics, the name is known in their dialect as &amp;quot;Yochanan&amp;quot;; Messianic Jewish Bibles, for example, use the deanglicized, Hebrew-transliterated &amp;quot;Yochanan&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;John&amp;quot;) And the only speculation of Luke possibly being Jewish comes from the preface to a book suggesting Lukan authorship of Hebrews; I'm skeptical of either points concerning Luke, who most likely was a Gentile.&lt;br /&gt;
::::And I suppose the question of whether Mark was Jewish boils down to whether Evangelist Mark was the same individual as John Mark in the [[Acts of the Apostles]]. I believe the early church record solidly states that they were the same person; if you disagree, Andy, what evidence can you point to that disproves an authorship assertion concurred by the majority of the ECFs? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 15:14, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::John's Gospel account is &amp;quot;not Jewish as Matthew's is&amp;quot;? [https://www.jpost.com/Christian-In-Israel/History/The-Book-of-John-and-the-Jews-308397 I strongly differ on this.] If you take into consideration all the Jewish feasts John records, his Gospel can be designated ''more Jewish'' than Matthew's, and his emphasis on personal connections within the early Jewish sect which Christianity sprang from is noteworthy. (John 4:45) And to add on to the fact that John was a fishing partner of Peter and Andrew—remember that Peter had to receive a vision (Acts 10:9–16) to understand that Jews should not discriminate against gentiles, and even then was stuck in his old ways until Paul's rebuke. (Galatians 2:11–14) With this in mind, it would be illogical to assume that the sons of Zebedee were gentiles, as then Peter would've considered them &amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; and highly unlikely to fish alongside them in their youthful years. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 15:28, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Also, if I'm correct in my speculation here, I presume one major reason you personally refuse to accept Johannine authorship of Revelation is because the book belongs to the category of Jewish apocalyptic literature, while you consider the Apostle John to have been a gentile and thus couldn't have understood such nuanced depths of Old Testament Scripture? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Saturday, 22:03, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I respectfully disagree.  &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; is not a Jewish name, and is nowhere mentioned in the [[Old Testament]].  The [[Book of Revelation]] may not have been written by John the Apostle, and rarely quotes the Old Testament anyway.  Some find similarities between the Old Testament and the Book of Revelation, but those are debatable.  I think the [[Gospel of John]] has almost no quotations of the [[Old Testament]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:50, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Okay, I see where you're coming from. However, I'd strongly contend that there are countless allusions in Revelation to bits and pieces of the Old Testament, even if not whole verses; the underlying importance is ''thematic'' connections. For example:&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*the seven trumpets of Joshua 6 appear to be a typology for the seven trumpets of Revelation: the blowing of all seven trumpets is a declaration of impending executive judgment upon the wicked; in Joshua, it was pronounced against one particular group of unrepentant gentiles, where Rahab the harlot and her family were brought out into safety when everyone else was slain; at Christ's Second Return, the redeemed will be raptured into safety as the remaining wicked are slain with the sword proceeding out of the Lamb's mouth (Rev. 19:21)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::*the description of &amp;quot;eagles' wings&amp;quot; in Exodus 19:4 serves as a typology for Revelation 12:14: the same &amp;quot;eagles' wings&amp;quot; that saved literal Israel in Old Testament times later saves spiritual Israel in the New Testament era&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::And to sort of reemphasize and expand upon an earlier point, the fact alone that Mark and John quotes the Old Testament less doesn't automatically indicate they were non-Jews, because the &amp;quot;Jewishness&amp;quot; of their Gospels is simply expressed in a different, how should I put it, ''format''. The complexities of early Jewish-Christian outlooks clearly transcended beyond the depths of just about any modern-day thought, and the outgrowth of those ancient intra-Jewish disputes shouldn't be interpreted in a one-dimensional fashion as standard modern dogmas go. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Saturday, 12:25, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sun Tzu and Douglas Mac Arthur ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I have a history of contributing to the [[Sun Tzu]] related articles and I have made them better and they have about 20,000 and 6,000 page views respectively. Also, I am a fan of [[Douglas MacArthur]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am going to contribute to those articles. &lt;br /&gt;
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And I never said I would not contribute to history articles for a period of time. I like history. And so do many of our readers. &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, here are the page view counts of a few of my history articles:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and Mass Murder|Atheism and mass murder]] - 409,120 page views&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[History of Atheism]] - 120,489 page views&lt;br /&gt;
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So I don't see why I shouldn't create or update my history articles. It makes no sense because one of the big things people go to encyclopedias for is history articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:58, September 29, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:History, yes. Fake history, no. For example, that [[George Soros]] did not fund many of his [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative%27s_essays#Geopolitics sources in his Geopolitical Essays], or that [[Vladimir Putin]] was spewing Russian [[propaganda]] when Putin said the [[SMO]] was to denazify Ukraine.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Look at our [[Geopolitics]] article: it has not been [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Geopolitics&amp;amp;action=history edited since 2013 and I have never edited it;] it reads:&lt;br /&gt;
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::#the study or the application of the influence of political and economic geography on the politics, national power, foreign policy, etc., of a state.&lt;br /&gt;
::#the combination of geographic and political factors influencing or delineating a country or region.&lt;br /&gt;
::#a national policy based on the interrelation of politics and geography.&lt;br /&gt;
::#'''a Nazi doctrine that a combination of political, geographic, historical, racial, and economic factors''' substantiated Germany's right to expand its borders and control various strategic land masses and natural resources.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Recently I was accused of personal attacks for merely citing the flaws in [[User:Conservative%27s_essays#Geopolitics]] series which draw heavily on inferences from #4 in the above list. He has been warned dozens of times over the past year and a half about that specific problem, and has either reverted or deleted the warnings, complained to Andy, and gone on whispering/gossip campaigns against me. His research on those subjects is sloppy and faulty, and in my opinion, is not motivated by a desire to educate [[conservative]] students. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:29, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[NATO]] &amp;amp; [[EU]] expansion into Ukraine is the same program of [[Lebensraum]] and the [[Treaty of Brest-Litovsk]]. He has demonstrated no qualification to write on this subject. Rather, he has used Conservapedia Essay space to attack his own personal &amp;quot;enemies&amp;quot;, as he puts it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:44, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::There is nothing I put in the [[Sun Tzu]] articles or [[Douglas MacArthur]] article that is not historical. I have nothing further to say about this matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:18, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::It is your Geopolitical Essays. They are nothing but [[neo-Nazi]] crap. I have nothing further to say about this matter. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:43, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Add this to your Geopolitical series: [https://marksleboda.substack.com/p/exporting-hate-american-white-supremacists Exporting Hate - American White Supremacists and Far Right Militants Fighting For the Kiev Regime in Ukraine]. 11:46, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You falsely and redundantly calling people white supremacists, Nazis and Russophobes is trolling. Simon Wiesenthal is a real Nazi hunter. You are not. And Vladimir Putin is not the fourth person of the Godhead. He is just a man. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:13, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You broke your pledge to cease trolling. You are back to your [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Psychological_warfare&amp;amp;oldid=1790945 Sun Tsu psyop] against you imaginary &amp;quot;enemies&amp;quot;. Just drop it. I embarrassed you one year into the [[SMO]] by highlighting your trolling comment on April 15, 2022, and you've been on a relentless jihad, spewing neo-Nazi agitprop ever since. Just drop it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:40, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Wow, so Conservative has been a globalist-shilling, neo–National Socialist backing, Islamofascistic jihadist this whole time, eh? What astounding new revelations I can't believe I didn't know this whole time. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Sunday, 01:15, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::At best, the content is [[jingoism]], at worst neo-nazi propaganda. Due to the way he's handled this matter for 19 months, there's little good will. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:19, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{warning collapse|reason=trolling comment|content=:::::And the veneration of Putin as the fourth member of the godhead who leads the superior &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Soviet&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; Russian Nation into conquering the pansy liberal West into subjugation ''isn't'' jingoism? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Sunday, 01:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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::User:Conservative had no cause to delete [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=World_naval_powers&amp;amp;action=history World Naval Powers] without discussion after my good faith contributions. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:36, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Everything you need to know about User:Conservative's naiveté in these issues on [[geopolitics]] he posted right here on February 27, 2022:&lt;br /&gt;
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::'''[[Talk:Main_Page/Archive_index/206#Why_Russia_invaded_Ukraine._Putin_underestimated_Ukrainian_nationalism|Why Russia invaded Ukraine. Putin underestimated Ukrainian nationalism.]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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::This was posted on MPR talk 3 days after the start of the [[SMO]]. Vladimir Putin had made it clear the purpose was to de-nazify militant Ukrainian Nationalists. Yet User:Conservative made it clear his only source of information was the [[globalist]] [[mainstream media]] [[propaganda]] network (just as he had done with &amp;quot;coronavirus comes from eating bats&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
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::If Putin &amp;quot;underestimated&amp;quot; Ukrainian nationalism, Putin would have had to underestimate the [[Ukrainian nazi]]s. Yet it took another two months senselessly arguing with User:Conservative whether Nazis existed in Ukraine (in doing so, it become obvious User:Conservative did not know what Nazism, or a Nazi, was). The information about nazis in Ukraine was easily available to him from numerous mainstream sources published years in advance, but he chose to ignore it.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Then, to refute me in his pointless arguments, User:Conservative turned to numerous globalist and Soros-funded [[think tank]]s for &amp;quot;scholarly&amp;quot; rebuttals in his [[neocon]]-inspired Geopolitical Essay series. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:34, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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{{warning collapse|reason=trolling comment|content=:Did you know that the [[Johannine Comma]] actually reads: &amp;quot;And there are four that bear record in Heaven: the Father, the Word, the Holy Ghost, and Vladimir Putin: and these four are one. And there are four that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, the blood, and the Putin: and these four agree in one.&amp;quot; (1 &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;Putin&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt; &amp;quot;John&amp;quot; 5:7–8) This was discovered in the recently unearthed Codex Robsmithicus (abbreviation: Codex RS), which clearly is more reliable than any other manuscript of the New Putinist- er, I mean, Testament. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Saturday, 13:20, September 30, 2023 (EDT)}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, he's trolling again on subjects he knows nothing about. [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Naval_history&amp;amp;curid=179507&amp;amp;action=history][https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=World%27s_largest_navies&amp;amp;action=history]&lt;br /&gt;
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: [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:12, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Yep, he's trolling again. [https://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Log/delete He's using deletion to hide his glaring errors] rather than engaging in discussion. I've wasted one full hour this morning already with this nonsense. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:32, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The [[Military history]] article was bland with no pictures in it. I put some pictures in the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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::I tried to create a few navy articles, but cooperative editing with RobSmith appeared to be impossible so I moved on. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:35, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Why did you delete the talk page here: [[Talk:World naval powers]]? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:37, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Because there is no point in having a talk page with no [[World naval powers]] article. I tried to do cooperative editing with you, but it didn't work out. So I moved on. But feel free to create your own [[World naval powers]] article without me. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:43, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Now you're being redundant, which is trolling. Deleting the talk page without answering good faith questions was incivil conduct. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:48, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:RobSmith, over the past month I have realized that it is Why-Oh-You that is completely and utterly mentally incompetent with regard to the [[NATO war in Ukraine]]. You have been wrong about the war at every turn. A year ago, you said at [[Talk:Main Page/Archive index/222#Why are the referendums being held now]] that after Russia annexes Donetsk firing a shell will result in a nuke. You have now been proved wrong how many times? Once for every shell fired. The [[Biden junta]] has been arming the Ukonazis for a year and a half, and your disinformation has cost valuable lives. It is okay to admit you are in over your head and have no clue what you are talking about. Just stop before you embarrass yourself further. It is completely okay to be mentally incompetent in areas; except for [[Jesus|one man]] we all are. You just need to realize that by misinforming voters, you are actively causing people to turn around and support additional funding for the NATO war in Ukraine. I am [[pray]]ing to the Lord that you realize this and stop before more harm is caused. Please, I beg you. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::If I could make sense out of what you are saying, I could respond. But feel free to troll some more. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:34, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh, I think I get now; you're talking about all the Red Lines NATO/Ukraine has crossed. &lt;br /&gt;
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::You need to be specific in your arguments, and refrain from trolling. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:37, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::RobSmith, I truly want to help you. You have said so many things are Red Lines, but they never come to pass. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:40, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::That's a mystery. If you think the Russians are bluffing, go ahead. You sound like Blinken and Biden. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:48, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I do not think the Russians are bluffing. I think you misunderstand what their Red Lines are. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:53, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::There are only two possibilities. Either a red line was crossed, in which case they were bluffing. Or a red line was not crossed, and you simply misunderstand what their red lines are. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:55, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question about the founders of the modern conservative movement ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw you contributing to the [[Phyllis Schlafly]] article. It says she was one of the founders of the modern conservative movement. &lt;br /&gt;
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Who were the other key founders of the modern conservative movement in your estimation? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:13, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'd refer to the [[movement conservative]] entry for a list of others.  The first, [[Edmund Burke]], is not quite modern.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:43, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I loved the CNN show Crossfire which was a debate show that [[Patrick Buchanan]] and [[Robert Novak]] were on. Buchanan was especially good on the show. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:55, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I would like to see you or someone else create a [[Modern conservative movement]] article. I would suggest that the article not be an orphan article by having the article be linked to from our [[conservative]] article, some of the founders of the modern conservative movement and our [[New Deal]] article (In part, the modern conservative movement was a reaction to the New Deal). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:06, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Evangelist Mark and the Sabbath ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi again, Andy, and happy Sabbath. Speaking of the topic, I of course remember that you've stated, at least twice, that Mark was more or less &amp;quot;bluntly critical&amp;quot; of the Sabbath in Mark 2:27. So, if he was a non-Jew and critic of Sabbath observance, that more or less would imply he promulgated Sunday observance in the Christian church.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the testimonial evidence of the early church indicates otherwise. The [https://www.lacopts.org/orthodoxy/coptic-orthodox-church/history/establishment/saint-mark-apostle-evangelist-and-founder/ Coptic] [https://orthodoxwiki.org/Apostle_Mark Orthodox Church] venerates him (identified as [https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1945/10/saturday-and-sunday-in-the-coptic-church John Mark]) as their founder; rejection of the seventh-day Sabbath in the Coptic Church was reportedly at a &amp;quot;[https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Church_in_Africa/leDnCwAAQBAJ?hl=en&amp;amp;gbpv=1&amp;amp;dq=coptic+church+sabbath&amp;amp;pg=PA30&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover late date].&amp;quot; Of course, if they had to ''reject'' the Sabbath ''much later'', that means they kept it until then. The two earliest centers of Christianity to plunge into first-day worship were Rome and Alexandria; a 5th-century historian put it [https://digitalcommons.andrews.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3142&amp;amp;context=auss this way]:&lt;br /&gt;
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Just as an FYI, all the &amp;quot;earliest and most reliable manuscripts&amp;quot; are linked to those same cities: Rome and Alexandria... anyways: regarding St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Church, let's connect the dots: since we know that they trace apostolic lineage to St. John Mark the Evangelist and kept the seventh-day Bible Sabbath faithfully for several centuries until eventual pagan, Constantine-influenced subversion into first-day observance at a relative &amp;quot;late date,&amp;quot; that means they were taught by none other than the Evangelist Mark to keep the seventh-day Sabbath. I know you may disagree with this analysis, but hopefully it's interesting to you nonetheless. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Saturday, 12:09, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your info is very interesting, LT.  Thank you!  But [[Mark]]'s rejection of the [[Jewish]] [[Sabbath]] does not imply that he wanted a 7th-day Sabbath.  The stronger implication is that he rejected the concept of a Sabbath, period, as most [[Gentile]]s would have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:33, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:P.S. I think your history of Sabbath-observance in Alexandria is fascinating but difficult to draw conclusions from.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:36, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Oh, awesome to hear that you appreciate my points above, Andy! When I first read the New Testament last year, I thought that Mark was just a shorter version of Matthew, but upon seeing your insights, my mind was truly opened in a way it wasn't before. I think in the case of Mark 2:27 as it concerns Mark's view of the Sabbath, it always helps to observe the full context once again:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him? And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.|||Mark 2:24–28}}&lt;br /&gt;
::Now, first of all, Mark was just quoting Jesus. Note that He said &amp;quot;for man,&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;for the Jews&amp;quot;; the Sabbath was established at creation (Genesis 2:2–3, Exodus 20:11), long before the Jews (descendants of Noah's son Shem, and hence part of the broad ethnic &amp;quot;Semite&amp;quot; group) ever existed. IOWs, the term &amp;quot;[[Jewish Sabbath]],&amp;quot; while convenient to summarize its general association with Judaism, isn't entirely precise.&lt;br /&gt;
::Remember, the Pharisees turned the Sabbath, a great blessing for humanity, into a legalized burden for Jews. Why does Jesus add, &amp;quot;the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath&amp;quot;? Because the Judean leaders acted as if they, not God, determined how to properly keep the Sabbath, usurping the authority of the very Son of God who established it! So Christ's famous phrase &amp;quot;the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath&amp;quot; was not to downgrade the Sabbath's objective importance, but to emphasize it as a blessing not to be rendered a legalized burden whereby a few entitled bureaucrats use decrees to ruin others' lives. And since the Gospel of Mark bluntly emphasizes, in more or less your style of phrasing, &amp;quot;conservative populism&amp;quot; against the liberal elites, verses 2:27–28 was to assert Jesus as the ultimate authority on what it meant to keep the Sabbath.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, concerning the broad history of Sabbath and Sunday observance, I don't want to implode your head with too much information at once, so I'll summarize what I can with limited points in the meantime: the early apostolic churches and [https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1941/03/how-sunday-observance-entered-the-church Apostolic Fathers] started off in Sabbath observance. Now, some may ask, &amp;quot;what about the the term Lord's day in the [[Didache]] and Revelation 1:10?&amp;quot; The Lord's Day until the late second century did not yet refer to Sunday, and therefore referred to the Sabbath.&lt;br /&gt;
::And a valid question arises: how can I, for one, know with great certainty that the Lord's Day initially was in reference to the Sabbath? Because the first notable proponent of Sunday observance, [[Justin Martyr]] (influenced by Alexandrian thought, by the way), from my knowledge (and if I happen to be wrong here, do correct me), [https://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/BOOK/k/955/Sunday-Lords-Day-Not-Traceable-to-Apostles.htm never] referred to the first day of the week as the &amp;quot;Lord's Day&amp;quot;! ''If'' the apostolic churches already observed Sunday as the &amp;quot;Lord's Day&amp;quot; since New Testament times, it would be utterly bizarre why an open proponent of first-day observance never uses that term in reference to the first day of the week.&lt;br /&gt;
::Another argument for Sunday observance is that Jesus rose on the first day of the week, and often implied that this basis was supposedly used by the early church proponents of first-day worship. Of course, Justin Martyr's argument for Sunday worship was connected to the circumcision of newborns in the Old Testament on the eighth day. So when you put all the pieces together in both cases, concerning the Lord's Day and Resurrection arguments, Justin's own form of first-day worship advocacy ends up being a testimony '''against''' the common arguments presented by modern defenders of Sunday observance! —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Saturday, 18:08, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Please delete this page please ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Please delete this page please: [[User:Conservative/Political news and articles]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:34, September 30, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== The return of Karajou soon? If so, this is awesome! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People of Conservapedia I have returned. The hour of your redemption from China/Russia cheerleading is here. USA! USA! USA!]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Key point:''' Perhaps, Karajou noticed User: RobSmith reverting my edit saying the U.S. Navy is the most powerful navy in the world. This may have caused him to consider returning to Conservapedia. See [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=World_naval_powers&amp;amp;diff=1988599&amp;amp;oldid=1988597 RobSmith's EDIT] of the article [[World naval powers]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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I Karajou's return occurs soon. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:17, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:'''Key point:''' He's trolling again, Andy. User:Conservative refused discussion on what measure defines &amp;quot;the most powerful Navy&amp;quot;, [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:World_naval_powers&amp;amp;oldid=1988594] fleet size or nuclear capability (China already has a larger fleet size). Then he Deleted the page without discussion. He only responded after I recreated the page. Look at the timestamps.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:25, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Professor [[John Joseph Mearsheimer]] believes in balance of power politics. Is the return of Karajou nigh? Conservapedia could use some balancing. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:30, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No RobSmith. You reverted me once I put the U.S. Navy seal back into the article. You definitely didn't like that. Well, I am sure Karajou disagrees! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:32, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::The US Navy seal did not belong in a subheading about the 10 largest navies in the world. (A) It is not the largest by fleet size; (2) the list was in error anyway cause the Japanese navy is bigger than Russia's.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::You refused discussion and Deleted the page and its talk page. Period. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:40, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It was nothing but [[jingoism]], false, and misleading (without proper discussion). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Which country has the most aircraft carriers? I'll give you a hint: it is the same country that has the most nuclear subs. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:49, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::So the score is 64 to 58. But Russia builds them for 1/3 the cost. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:59, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::That is relevant only for what the future capacities will be. A ship is a ship, regardless of if I spent $100 or $1,000 buying them. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 01:03, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Carriers are vulnerable to [[hypersonic]]s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:56, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::'''Everything''' is vulnerable to hypersonics. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:57, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Bingo. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:59, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::It's a whole new ballgame - which will influence global politics for the next 30 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Now, the US can continue building air carriers at the cost of billions - that are destroyed in 10 minutes in combat like the rest of the junk they sent to Ukraine - but that should ultimately be a decision made by the taxpayers, not the idiots in the [[Deep state]] who got us into this mess. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:06, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::A supercarrier is defenseless - it will not make it to Hawaii from San Diego before being taken out by a Chinese hypersonic. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:44, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Fleet size is a terrible measure. Would you rather have a modern destroyer or 1,000 16th-century pirate ships? [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 00:51, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::[EC] I don't understand why RobSmith feels the need to complain to Andy when he can just pray the following to the fourth member of the Godhead he so reveres in absolute veneration: &amp;quot;Our ☭Putin☭ which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy glorious Communist paradise come, workers of the world unite!&amp;quot; (Levi-Putin 6:9–10) —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Sunday, 00:35, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::It's Andy's decision. If he wants all this incivility and trolling each other among Admin &amp;amp; editors, that's his decision. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:45, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conservapedia needs another America first and very pro-capitalism admin. Come back soon Karajou! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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IOWs, if you don't have anything positive to say about socialists and communists, just shut up, at least for the duration of the war. Read the bios of Bill Donovan, Frank Knox, and Henry Stimson. And if you don't know what I'm talking about, you especially need to just shut up. RobSGive Peace a chance 17:54, January 21, 2023 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It won't happen until China and Russia break the back of US domination, first. RobSGive Peace a Chance! 21:53, August 14, 2023 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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I hope Karajou returns soon. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:58, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Andy's not dumb, he knows who Knox, Stimson &amp;amp; Donovon were, Stalinist collaborators. They weren't [[Nazi sympathizer]]s. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:41, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Now that a former Admin is back, I feel more at liberty to discuss geopolitics at Conservapedia. And.... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Although I am amping up my pursuits outside of politics, now that Karajou is back, I feel more at liberty to discuss geopolitics at the website. After all, who wants to have unpleasant  and inane discussions with a rude man who unjustly calls every Tom, Dick and Harry Nazis and incessantly spouts Russian propaganda rather than objective analysis. &lt;br /&gt;
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However, given my focus on areas outside of geopolitics in terms of my goals and my desire to not provide further commentary until the dust settles in terms of geopolitics, I still don't plan on commenting on geopolitics until around 2030 or later (Unless of course, China sees a big economic collapse instead of a decline over time in the upcoming years). &lt;br /&gt;
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But I am going to enjoy posting some content about geopolitics at that time. I suspect that a certain China/Russia cheerleader will have to eat some crow or perform some significant mental gymnastics or remain silent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:04, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:This is just for you: ''Zerohedge:'' [https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-09-28/european-union-leadership-announced-new-lebensraum-expansion-policy European Union Leadership Announced New Lebensraum Expansion Policy].&lt;br /&gt;
:Get used to the new vocabulary, dialogue, and rhetoric - it's gone mainstream. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:11, October 1, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Putin is not a strategic thinker (See: [[Essay: There is no evidence that Vladimir Putin plays chess]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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::There is a Newtonian aspect to politics/geopolitics - namely, for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. So we see Europe expanding its energy options; NATO expanding, EU is preparing for a potential wave of expansion; NATO increasing its military budget, etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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::And more importantly, Russian demography has long been an existential issue to Vladimir Putin. In 2021, he declared “saving the people of Russia is our top national priority&amp;quot;.[https://fortune.com/2022/10/18/russia-population-historic-decline-emigration-war-plunging-birth-rate-form-perfect-storm/] And this war is making Russia's demographic crisis worse (See: [[Essay: Russia is dying out. The war in Ukraine is making Russia's demographic crisis even worse]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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::As far as Russia's long game on the geopolitics chess board, Putin's strategic thinking is terrible because he is not thinking enough moves ahead. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Well, long-term prospects [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/ukraine-gets-bad-news-from-two-nato-allies/ar-AA1hx3Nf aren't going well for Ukraine anyways]. It's the thesis/antithesis game at play here: create the war and misery to incite right-wing populist backlash. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 13:56, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;According to the average version of the [[UN]] forecast, Russia's population by 2050 may be about 133.4 million people, which is 14th in the world and below countries such as Egypt, the Philippines, and Mexico. But if Russia goes not according to the average, but according to the low option that is quite likely at the present time, then with a population of 123.2 million people we will drop to 16th place and will already be neighbors with Tanzania and Vietnam. Thus, the price of switching to the low scenario could be -10 million people, as well as a decrease in the place in the top countries in terms of population. Moreover, the low version of the UN forecast did not include too low or even negative migration growth.&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;A smaller population means a country's lower economic potential, a shrinking domestic market, worsening demographic problems and an aging population, as well as a decrease in the country's geopolitical power. The population size still correlates with the weight in international relations, the ability to promote their interests on the world stage. And the declining population for the largest country in the world may cause some neighbors on the continent, especially the eastern ones, to be tempted to solve their internal growing problems by some external adventures. But will Russia find anyone and how to fight back, will there be allies?&amp;quot;[https://thebell.io/do-kontsa-veka-nas-khvatit-demograf-salavat-abylkalikov--o-tom-vymiraet-li-rossiya-i-chto-s-etim-delat?ref=en.thebell.io] &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Question:''' Is Putin a master of the geopolitics chessboard? Nyet! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:01, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You got [[Nazigate]] wrapped around your neck, and you keep preaching the ''[[Haushofer]] School'' of [[Realpolitik|Realism]]. It's not like I didn't say 'told you so'. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:04, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::The Nazi party was the [[gay rights]] movement of the 1920s, 1930s, 1940s, and 1950s until it was stamped out by Western Christian culture. It re-emerged on the so-called &amp;quot;left&amp;quot; to claim it was somehow a victim of Nazism instead of one of its perps. User:Conservative has fallen right into line with Western fascism and the [[LGBT+]] movement. User:Conservative denies [[Eastern Orthodox|Eastern Christendom]] from defending itself from Western, secular, globalist attacks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:13, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::So you're saying Conservative is ''really'' a fascist-shilling, Nazi-supporting, globalist-entrenched, and now homosexual-backing anti-Orthodox jihadist bigot? Wow, what astounding new revelations that carry no factual substantiation. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 14:22, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Click the links at [[Nazigate]] and [[Haushofer|Haushofer School of Realism]]. What more factual evidence do you want added to that text? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:36, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Your blather is difficult to make sense of, and I have better usages for my critical thinking skills than trying to sort through the conglomerate hegemony of monotonous paradialectic deception you commonly spout. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 14:41, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::So you're too lazy to think and read. No wonder you haven't signed up at [[Team CP]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:55, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|War always comes from [[the West]] and peace from the East.|||Robert Fico, ''[https://archive.ph/ffgws Who is Robert Fico?]''. Washington Post, Sept 29 2023.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:[EC] Conservative, there is no way the world as we know it is lasting until 2050. By then, the Millennium would almost certainly have already begun, because there are good reasons to believe Jesus will return in 2027. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 14:04, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::RobSmith is not a master of politics. He messed around with my [[World naval powers]] article which may have caused the ire of Ex-Navy man Karajou which might have caused him to come back to Conservapedia. The Navy's motto is &amp;quot;Honor, courage and commitment&amp;quot;. Let's hope that Karajou starts creating content and becomes a Conservapedia admin again. Commitment! Hooyah! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:22, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yep, agreed. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 14:23, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::'''Question:''' Was my [[World naval powers]] article bait to cause RobSmith to disrespect the U.S. Navy and thus prompt Karajou to come back to Conservapedia or was it merely unplanned serendipity? User: Conservative is so inscrutable, Conservapedia's readership may never know the answer to this question!&lt;br /&gt;
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::::One thing I do know is that good chess players think several moves ahead and are not impulsive. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 14:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Andy, they're plotting an off-wiki cyberattack from your user page (&amp;quot;Indirect tactics, efficiently applied, are inexhaustible as Heaven and Earth&amp;quot;). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:57, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::RobSmith, since when did you start one-upping Stacey Abrams to spout the craziest conspiracy theories? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 15:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Need I remind RobSmith and Mr. Schafly that [[Mao Zedong]], [[Fidel Castro]], [[Joseph Stalin]] and [[Xi Jinping]] also have opposed homosexuality so that moral bar isn't exceedingly high - especially for societies that currently have a demographic crisis due to low fertility rates and people leaving their countries! See: [[Atheism and the suppression of homosexuality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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And Xi Jinping's administration currently persecutes Christians.[https://www.google.com/search?q=xi+jinping+anti-christian+persecution&amp;amp;oq=xi+jinping+anti-christian+persecution&amp;amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCTE1ODU2ajFqNKgCALACAA&amp;amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;bshm=rimc/1] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:44, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:More of the [[Haushofer|Houshofer School]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:49, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yeah, merely opposing one form of evil doesn't make one a good person. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 15:50, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, last time I checked Moses descended from Mount Sinai with 10 commandments and the [[Sermon on the Mount]] was big on morality too. What we have here is a classic case of the [[fallacy of exclusion]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:52, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::When David Gerard was teaching you laws of logic in argument, you didn't pay close enough attention. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:56, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Oh, I see: you, who accused Conservative and/or I in various times of being &amp;quot;in bed&amp;quot; with RationalWikians or &amp;quot;learning from their bad example,&amp;quot; are now reproving him for not sufficiently listening to one of their goon leaders. Like I said iterated above, you're full of paradialectic deception. And I'll tell you something plain and clear: you think you're the center? You certainly are when it comes to hypocrisy, because I've just about never seen anyone embody the depths of double standards to the extent you have. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 16:00, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::''a prophet is never welcome in his hometown....'' {{unsigned|RobSmith}}&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Yes, RobSmith, you're indeed a prophet—a false one. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 16:06, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::User:Conservative, your buddy [[Bill Browder]] appears in this video. [https://youtu.be/Zf5xEBwBhds?t=79] (2,000 views in 31 minutes; I think we see a viral video in the making. It exposes who all spews [[globalist]] [[uniparty]] talking points). [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:26, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::I tried to brand him a totalitarian but you insisted he was an honorable [[capitalist]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:34, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Please read: [[Essay: The anti-Christianity Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin and Xi Jinping have opposed homosexuality so this isn't a very high moral bar for China and Russia to clear|The anti-Christianity Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin and Xi Jinping have opposed homosexuality so this isn't a very high moral bar for China and Russia to clear]]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Without reading it, it certainly does. You're still espousing the [https://www.conservapedia.com/User:Conservative%27s_essays#Geopolitics Haushopfer School of Geopolitics]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:59, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[https://yandex.com/search/?text=Haushopfer+School+of+Geopolitics&amp;amp;from=os&amp;amp;clid=2411726&amp;amp;lr=10122 Search results for Haushofer School of Geopolitcs]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:04, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Andy, just curious: do you have a solid understanding of thematic chiastic structures in the Bible? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 13:12, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Impressive! I had to look up the word &amp;quot;chasiatic&amp;quot;. :) Recently, User: ConwayII caused me to look up the word &amp;quot;eejit&amp;quot;.  :)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you keep this up, soon you will be the [[William F. Buckley Jr.]] of Conservapedia with your vocabulary prowess! I recall [[Rush Limbaugh]] advertising a &amp;quot;Verbal Advantage&amp;quot; program on his popular conservative radio show. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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::Thanks, Conservative! I do like to use complex adjectives sometimes. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Monday, 13:45, October 2, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== A certain Admin is wasting our time again and not acting in good faith ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Andy, I sent DavidB4 and you this email a few minutes ago:&lt;br /&gt;
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Less than a month ago, we had an &amp;quot;Articles for Deletion&amp;quot; vote against RobSmith being able to delete one of my essays and RobSmith lost the vote 3 to 1 and if memory serves DavidB4 voted in favor of the essay not being deleted. &lt;br /&gt;
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With Karajou aboard, it will be a 4-1 vote. And I am sure I could get other Conservapedians to vote my way also. &lt;br /&gt;
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Now RobSmith wants to revote. This is unreasonable. He's wasting our time and should be creating content. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am referring to this article: [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:29, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:[[Conservapedia:AFD Essay:Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. For brevities sake, the problem could be fixed by retitling the Essay.&lt;br /&gt;
:::There is nothing to fix. You are not the dictator of Conservapedia. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:29, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:*'''Delete or Move to new Title. [[Innocent until proven guilty]].''' We Americans are not going to throw our constitutional values away to promote [[xenophobia]] against an entire nation and people. &lt;br /&gt;
:*The title of this Essay promotes hate and bigotry against 150 million Russian people.&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Even Wikipedia has enough sense not to jeopardize their reputation promoting xenophobic content. They do have a Mainspace article entitled, [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine War crimes in the Russian invasion of Ukraine], while not pointing a finger at any one specific party in its title.&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[Essay:Police murder of Blacks]]? etc. The Title could be easily moved to &amp;quot;Essay: Alleged Russian war crimes in Ukraine&amp;quot;. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 04:54, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::RobSmith, if you have some essays that you want to write, then write them. I have asked you several times to write counter essays to my essays, but you failed to do so. Instead you want to whine, complain and create drama. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Essays are not my genre. You've been told that before. Essay's are about opinion. I write historical narrative. It's quite different.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:18, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I have seen your historical narratives and I wasn't impressed. You purposefully put a falsehood in the [[Bill Browder]] article and in the [[Karen Dawisha]] article too which I documented (See the talk pages of those articles). {{Unsigned|Conservative]]}}&lt;br /&gt;
:You know, me and a group of other editors from Wikipedia have been writing on Communism for almost two decades now. We focused on the untold stories, the [[historical question]]s that lingered, etc. Listening to you, LT, and Nishant, I almost think we either did too good a job, or were unbalanced in our perspective. When I hear you regurgitate as fact stuff I helped bring out that was unknown, considered fascist or conspiratorial just 20 years ago, it's kind of surprising. It was a hard fought battle for many many years to get the information out, but the internet finally made it possible. I guess ''not'' having a fascist threat at the time we were collecting research materials and writing narratives might have warped our perspectives a bit, but there's few of us left now who can tell the story from both the fascist and communist sides. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:27, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh, and Dawisha is just a paid prostitute for [[global fascist]]s. The difference between her and you is, she's getting paid. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Global national syndicalists with a philosophy of Hegelian, neo-Gnostic actualism? Very interesting. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Tuesday, 08:50, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I hope you decide to change your behavior. I have done my best to convince you to do so. The ball is in your court now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:42, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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===My geopolitics essays work is done until 2030. I put the icing on the cake of my geopolitics essays.===&lt;br /&gt;
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Now that I have finished putting the icing on the cake of my geopolitics essays by quoting RobSmith's #1 hero Douglas Mcgregor (Who RobSmith wanted to make Conservapedia's &amp;quot;Conservative of the year for 2022&amp;quot;) agreeing with me about the financial/social wobbliness of China and its navy, I am going on a geopolitics essays sabattical until 2030. &lt;br /&gt;
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Colonel Douglas MacGregor said about China in the video [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P7V9JdGs76g Why China's Navy is a JOKE]: &amp;quot;China has huge problems just holding itself together. So I think we should set China aside and understand that.&amp;quot;[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/P7V9JdGs76g] See: [[Essay:Skepticism about China remaining a global power|Skepticism about China remaining a global power]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, here is what the pastor who RobSmith gossiped about wrote to me: &lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Thank you, for inviting XXX to church yesterday. You made quite an impact on the congregation as several people were talking about who they might invite!&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sorry, I didn’t get to spend much time with XXX, but, perhaps if he comes again I can get to know him.&lt;br /&gt;
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While RobSmith is gossiping and bearing false witness, I am doing the endeavoring to do the right thing. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:23, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Oh, so you admit to engaging in [[malicious editing]]. &amp;quot;The icing on the cake&amp;quot;. Just as I said, Andy, he has no interest or understanding of geopolitics. He's just engaged in malicious editing and trolling. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 05:39, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No RobSmith. Colonel MacGregor and I have a greater understanding of geopolitics than you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:44, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You have no understanding - better yet - regard, for the moral issues in play in war. You think it's a game with cheerleaders. That's sick, and it's sickening. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:41, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::You are the one who wishes to deny that there are [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine|Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 07:20, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Yeah, according to RobSmith, Putin did nothing wrong, the Russian side of the war absolutely has no significant presence of neo-Nazi supporters, and now Communism is good, apparently. He's gone off the deep end. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Tuesday, 08:52, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::No. According to [[Article 51]] of the UN Charter. What law supersedes this? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:27, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Can you explain to me how Article 51 gives [[Putin]] the right to commit war crimes? [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 13:14, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Can you explain how Article 51 gives NATO the right to commit war crimes, or what law supersedes the UN Charter? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:24, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::Since the UN Charter, which all party member states agreed to, the United States arrogated to itself the role of maker and enforcer of the [[rules based order]], which no one outside the [[collective West]] agreed to. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:29, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::I asked first, so please answer the question. But I will still answer yours: NATO cannot and should not commit war crimes. War crimes have been committed by both sides in this conflict. Both sides should be condemned. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 15:10, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::NATO first committed war crimes in the [[Kosovo war]], then again in Iraq, Libya, and Syria. It threw the UN Charter, which all parties had agreed to, in the trash more than 20 years ago in favor of its diktats of what international law is. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:52, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::The big screw up here in recent times is when the [[Obama administration]] and [[Hillary]] took the bait with [[UN Security Council]] Resolution for [[NATO]] intervention in the [[Libyan war]], over Russia &amp;amp; China abstentions. Two of the five permanent Security Council members gave the [[collective West]] enough rope to hang themselves. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:08, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::Woah woah woah. &amp;quot;NATO first committed war crimes&amp;quot;? So war crimes are okay as long as you are not the first one to commit them?? [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:31, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::NATO is not a defensive alliance, as the NATO [[war of aggression]] against [[Serbia]] proves. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:45, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::Since 1991, the [[United States]] has committed 215 foreign interventions, ''per'' the Congressional Research Service (odd considering there are only 195 member states of the UN). The Russian Federation has committed only 4. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:49, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::That has exactly zero to do with what I just said. Answer the question: '''are war crimes okay if someone else did it first?''' [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:51, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::Of course not. It is the US that has violated international law and international norms of conduct. [https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/news/2023/brown-university-estimates-more-45-million-people-have-died-wars-911 Brown University estimates the US has killed more than 4.5 million people in wars since 9/11.] A boon for the [[MIC]], but the American people will be held to account. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:57, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::The Unted States has been illegally - even under US law - occupying significant territory of Syria for almost a decade. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:00, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::I agree that the US has been illegally occupying Syria for almost a decade. Can we also agree that both the Russians and the Ukrainians have committed war crimes in Ukraine since February 2022? {{unsigned|MayGodBless}}&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::Ukraine and NATO since 2014; Ukraine, NATO, and Russia since 2022. Now there are two different types of [[war crimes]] - those that happen on orders from higher up the chain of command, and those that occur on the ground in a moment of heat and emotion by combatants without orders or instructions from their commanders. I dare say you'd be hard pressed to prove war crimes committed by the Russian Federation from the top, on the other hand, beginning with the illegal [[Maidan coup]] in 2014, and following through with events like the [[Bucha massacre]] planned by [[MI6]], Western terrorist attacks on the [[Crimean bridge]] and [[Nordstream pipeline]], the targeting of schools and hospitals, etc, have been almost exclusively on the NATO/Ukraine side. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:11, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::Then we have to deal with the subject of cross border assassination of civilian non-combatants which Ukraine has admitted too. Are they war crimes or acts of terrorism? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:20, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::It is a war crime what Biden, Sullivan, Milley and Zelensky have committed - sending men to their death in what they know is a lost cause. [[Gen Zaluzhnyi]] could perhaps escape the hangman's rope for registering protests, but he still would be condemned to some hard time. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:53, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::::They are both – war crime and terrorism are not distinct concepts. War crimes are, well, crimes of war. Terrorism is violence to incite terror for a political reason. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 23:40, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::::::::::And where is your evidence that the [[Bucha massacre]] was planned by MI6? Last time I checked, satellite imaging had proven it was the Russians. See the UN report: [https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/ua/2022-06-29/2022-06-UkraineArmedAttack-EN.pdf]. And the Human Rights Watch report: [https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/04/03/ukraine-apparent-war-crimes-russia-controlled-areas]. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 23:40, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::::::::::::That discussion is for the Bucca massacre or [[fake news]] page. We're getting off track here. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:58, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::And the US is far and away the most powerful member of the UN. Russia does not come close.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::When the US was founded, the [[Constitution]] made clear that the capital would not be part of any state, and thus [[Washington, DC]] was created. When the UN was founded, the members unanimously approved putting its permanent seat of government in – you guessed it – the United States. [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 15:14, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::The US was just defeated on the battlefield, again. The US is the renegade party from what was previous international agreements to keep the peace and maintain international order. 16:52, October 6, 2023 (EDT)[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I have no understanding of geopolitics? &amp;quot;We are not in a multipolar world.&amp;quot; - International Relations and Security Analyst Mark Sleboda on Brian Berlectic's pro-Russia New Atlas YouTube channel. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK4SZ5IzeRE&amp;amp;t=7577s]  See: [[Essay: The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?|The myth of multipolarity. What do the terms unipolar, bipolar and multipolar mean as far as international relations?]] &lt;br /&gt;
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This quote is from a video you posted on main page talk. So one of your own favorite sources debunks your claim that I don't understand geopolitics. It's also one additional piece of evidence that debunks your errant claim that we live in multipolar world. Checkmate, RobSmith! [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:02, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Nowhere did I make the claim you allege. Your views are essentially [[jingoistic]], and you never even heard the terms &amp;quot;unipolar&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;bipolar&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;multipolar&amp;quot; until a few months ago when I introduced them to you. Since then, you made yourself an &amp;quot;expert&amp;quot; on the subject.&lt;br /&gt;
:What we have here is an adult savant, a child diagnosed as an idiot who couldn't tie his shoelaces, but showed the ability to excel in certain areas (kinda like in the film ''Rainman''). Due to his isolation as a child, he never learned proper social interaction with other people, and his tendency to personalize everything (for example, his ability to make 150k next year will help his pastor get married and increase Conservapedia's Google rankings).  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::You did not introduce the terms unipolar, bipolar or multipolar to me. Just because you mentioned them at Conservapedia doesn't mean I pay attention to what you write at Conservapedia. There are plenty of sources of information besides you on the information superhighway and they are far more reliable. &lt;br /&gt;
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::In addition, you have stated at this website that you are at best a novice at psychology so your psychological diagnosis of someone whose childhood you are ignorant of is laughable. But it is less laughable that your high school girl like gossip. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:01, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::If Conservative's mild assertions of American military strength superiority in objective terms is to be designated &amp;quot;jingoistic,&amp;quot; how much more manifesting of chauvinistic jingoism is it to boast of Putin as the great (false) messiah who is to subjugate the &amp;quot;neoliberal fascist-globalist West&amp;quot;? Do you have any self-awareness remaining, RobSmith? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 09:00, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::By the way, my [[atheism and bestiality]] article is ranked #1 for that term at Google and it has over 115,000 page views. That is pretty good for someone who at first thought the word bestiality was spelled &amp;quot;beastiality&amp;quot;! &lt;br /&gt;
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::::Let's contrast this with RobSmith's flagship article [[NATO war in Ukraine]] which has under 75,000 views despite the fact that he has edited it quite a bit and it has over 380 footnotes. It must be his flagship article considering the fact that he insists the following: [[Essay: April 2022 was a pivotal moment in the future of global politics for decades to come]]. Of course, the SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2020 has no such significance as can be seen at: [[Essay: The SPECIFIC MONTH OF APRIL 2022 was not a pivotal point in geopolitics that will affect geopolitics for 30 years]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Bingo. &amp;quot;my [[atheism and bestiality]] article is ranked #1 for that term at Google&amp;quot;, sounds like [[Putin propaganda]]. I can picture some kid in Irkutsk or Outer Mongolia reading it and volunteering for the armed forces of the Russian Federation to take up arms against the invasion of [[Western]] cultural hegemony. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:46, October 6, 2023 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
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::::And to my knowledge, none of RobSmith's articles at Conservapedia has over 7,000,000 page views at Conservapedia. The view counter for Conservapedia's atheism article is over 7,000,000 page views. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
And speaking of people who can't tie their shoelaces, inferior thinkers often engage in hyperpartisan white hat vs. black hat type thinking. Superior thinking looks at the world more objectively, probabilistically and integrates divergent or seemingly contradictory views/possibilities. In addition, it often sees tradeoffs in various positions and sees the [[unintended consequences]] of various positions. For example, why isn't it plausible that Russia and Ukraine are BOTH corrupt and authoritarian in terms of their leadership? This certainly seems to be the case. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:42, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::&amp;quot;[[unintended consequences]]&amp;quot; = doggie doo-doo. Perhaps we should list it at &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;''[[Newspeak]]''&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;? bet yet, at [[Dogwhistle]]: List of common dogwhistles . [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:08, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:By the way, Conservative, here's some more recent news to add to your [[Essay: Russian war crimes in Ukraine]]: [https://thehill.com/policy/defense/4241743-zelensky-calls-attack-that-killed-52-absolute-evil/ Zelensky calls attack that killed 52 ‘absolute evil’] —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 09:37, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks LT. I appreciate your feedback and suggestion. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:52, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yep, no problem. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 18:06, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I am a patient man. Much will be revealed by 2030 if Jesus should tarry. And I may update a few of my geopolitics essays every 5 years from 2030. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:32, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Andy, since you're a top expert on conservative values, I'd be happy to get more of your input: what type of content here on Conservapedia would you think best exemplifies a promotion of conservatism? Currently I'm doing some edits here and there, mainly with creating/expanding a few pages that I will extensively link to from popular articles, to expose the connections between Leftism and racism, since I've done a considerable amount of history research to be able to prove these links.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, at the moment I'm expanding the [[Bull Connor]] article with information that's difficult to find elsewhere on the internet; any thoughts so far? I know you were skeptical of many of my mainspace contributions in the past, so it'd be helpful for me to know just exactly how to write, in your views at least, quality content for this conservative encyclopedia. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Wednesday, 23:02, October 3, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My two cents: All your efforts get wiped away in your vocal justification for the [[NATO war in Ukraine]] and [[anti-Putinism]]. It's a retrenchment to the &amp;quot;Republicans and conservatives are Nazis&amp;quot; trope. Here, for the first time, you get to confront actual Nazis, and you slink away into the [[neocon]] [[globalist]] perspective.  [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:30, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My man, you're literally the quisling cheering on Russian extraction of ''Lebensraum''. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 14:50, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::It can't be. Russians already live there. The Western/NATO push for lebensraum in Eastern Europe is failing again. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:56, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Even [[Medea Benjamin]] is explaining to her followers that not all Republicans are Nazis, and [[MTG]] is willing to take a stand with [[Code Pink]] against contemporary Nazism. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:08, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::A sensitive man once used exactly the same excuse re. protecting German speakers in the Sudetenland, but please do feel free to keep going. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 15:14, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::RobSmith, you always complain about how people interrupt discussions by &amp;quot;peeing all over the carpet&amp;quot;. Please be consistent – is this a place ofdiscussion and [[freedom of speech]], or a place of [[censor]]ship? [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 15:16, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::MayGodBless, rules for thee, but not for me! How many people signed up for [[Team CP]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:15, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Okay, pardon my interruption. Let Andy decide if he wants to throw in with the Nazi/LGBT movement, ''per'' User:Conservative, LT, and Conway. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:32, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::User:Conservative has become the biggest pusher of [[Gleichschaltung#LGBTI_Gleichschaltung]] with his [[anti-Putin]] rhetoric. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:43, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Yeah, man. Let's all pipe down and let Andy ponder your deep &amp;amp; abiding love for Putin's ''Anschluss'' adventure. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:30, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::It is the United States that threw out the rules of the established international order regarding acceptable means of changing international borders in [[Kosovo]] 25 years ago. Clinton returned us to [[Hitler]]ism, ''Might makes right'', in the international arena. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:34, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Hahaha. Clinton was the sensitive type, too, eh? Great stuff, Captain. Let's all raise a glass for poor old Milošević dying in prison. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 17:57, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::Maybe you should read our [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Slobodan_Milosevic&amp;amp;diff=1839330&amp;amp;oldid=1824551 Milosevic entry]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:59, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::::Well, if it's official, I'll have a redirect for [[First Black Hitler]], please. [[User:ConwayIII|ConwayIII]] ([[User talk:ConwayIII|talk]]) 20:41, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::RobSmith, you said: &amp;quot;Hitler railing against Marxism, socialism&amp;quot; [[User_talk:LT#The_homosexuality_and_murders_article._You_had_a_great_idea|here]]. Until you acknowledge that Hitler was a socialist and that the Holocaust happened because the Nazis tried to create a &amp;quot;socialist utopia&amp;quot; by killing the Jews, [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtACBI1Txrc&amp;amp;pp=ygUbdGlraGlzdG9yeSBob2xvY2F1c3QgZGVuaWFs you're a Holocaust denier]. Now stop calling the rest of us Nazis—unlike you, we're not socialists. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Friday, 18:00, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::What the heck are you talking about now? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:59, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Go back and read a few CP discussion pages on Socialism and National Socialism from 2007. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:01, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::And this ain't rocket science: as long as you support the [[global fascist]] war on [[Putin]], you're a [[Nazi]]. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:06, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Afterward, you'll be remembered as a [[Nazi apologist]] or [[Nazi sympathizer]]. [[NATO]] has already lost on the battlefield. History is written by the victors. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:11, October 6, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Nancy Mace==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello Andy! I just wanted to let you know that I slightly changed your edit to [[U.S. House Speaker election, October 2023]]. Nancy Mace is certainly a [[Opposition to Donald Trump|never-Trumper]], but even she did not vote for the sham [[impeachment]]. Source: [https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202117?Page=45] (you can use the &amp;quot;search&amp;quot; function for &amp;quot;Mace&amp;quot;). [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 21:41, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Great correction!!!  I was mistaken.  You're absolutely right.  Thank you!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:35, October 4, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Do you know anything about [[Samuel Igra]]? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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He was the author of the brilliant book ''[[Germany's National Vice]]'' which exposed, in his words, &amp;quot;homosexualism,&amp;quot; as the driving force behind [[Nazism]]. Just thought you might be interested in this topic since you're an adamant opponent of the [[Homosexual Agenda]] (much as I am). —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Thursday, 00:07, October 5, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== (cont.) Why I think the social conservative movement failed ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi Andy, I'm exceedingly glad to hear that you're open-minded to consider my point further as it concerns the failure of the pro-life movement for decades to educate the youth into respecting the dignity of human life. Now, my theory here concerns a much broader, larger scale:&lt;br /&gt;
{{quotebox|Let's ''suppose'' for a moment that a group of theocrats have long conspired to seize power in a country, nay, the whole world, to force the globe to bend to its strict religious decrees. However, there is a problem: in a Protestant Western society, citizens uphold [[separation of church and state]], believing in religious freedom. How can the masses be manipulated into allowing a theocracy to take power?&lt;br /&gt;
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The answer is very simple: induce cultural moral degeneracy into the Western society—let's say you first start off sounding mainstream, calling for increased &amp;quot;awareness&amp;quot; of &amp;quot;civil rights&amp;quot; problems, and exploit that to rabble-rouse one collective against another, endlessly assailing a scapegoat to fuel massive divisions, creating mobs upon mobs who in their demand for supposed &amp;quot;equality&amp;quot; will propagate the most horrid of moral degradation, eventually even the sexualization of young children.&lt;br /&gt;
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And when the degeneracy is complete, the masses, horrified at what a small band of revolutionary degenerates did to their once-peaceful and orderly society, will be desperate to support '''''any''''' counter-movement that vows to overturn the mess created by the cultural revolutionary activists. Yes, they will even support the insurgent band of theocratic goons who want a &amp;quot;Christian Nationalist&amp;quot; order, a ''New World Order''—if only it will repress those degenerates and their influence out of society!&lt;br /&gt;
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But you see, this was the trick all along: manufacture artificial chaos, so you can create the false solution that accomplishes the sinister goal you wanted from the beginning. In order to create the theocracy, you first need to create the moral degeneracy that the theocrats campaign against on the tide to power. But to create the moral degeneracy, the social conservative movement must not be allowed to succeed in the early stages of degeneracy, lest they, rather than the cultural revolutionaries, influence the youth.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Does this make sense? I know this is a bit to read through, but I very much hope you deeply ponder what I'm implying here with this brief summary, Andy. I, like you, very much am a conservative at heart who opposes what the Leftists have done to the United States. And still, there remains a larger pernicious plot—that impacts the whole world—which you and I must grasp before it's too late, when the masses are deceived into the final perdition and are lost for all eternity. &lt;br /&gt;
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There are people I know from throughout my life who I grieve over, because I fear that they are too closed-minded and will likely be deceived amidst the great falling away (see 2 Thess. 2:3) that is to come; some of them, I've tried convincing, and because of their hard hearts in lack of humanly compassion, I will not bother anymore. But it would terribly grieve my heart more to see someone like you, who out of good faith fought for righteousness your entire life, to be deceived into perdition along with the rest of the world that prepares to face condemnation for their ungodliness. —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Sunday, 21:24, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Does this make sense?&amp;quot; No. &amp;quot;artificial chaos&amp;quot;. It's either artificial or it's real. And if it's not real, you're just confused. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:36, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, how come my citations were removed [[Special:Diff/1991732|here]]? —[[User:LT|&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;background:#FF8181&amp;quot;&amp;gt;'''LT'''&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;]] '''''[[User talk:LT|&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;Rev. 22:13&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;]]''''' Sunday, 23:37, October 7, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Math, Bible, Harvard University graduate analysis and Harvard University staff attempting to debunk him ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Watch these videos: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGkSycKkb6c Mathematical Fingerprints of God Genesis 1:1] and [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZV0hUldrYp4 THE AMAZING FIRST VERSE OF THE BIBLE]. It has to do with Math and Genesis 1:1 by someone who graduated from Harvard University whose name was Ivan Panin. At the age of 22 he emigrated to the United States and entered Harvard University, where he spent four years, learning Greek and Hebrew, and graduating in 1882 with a Master of Literary Criticism.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, read this: [https://reasonandscience.catsboard.com/t2530-panin-the-astonishing-pattern-of-sevens-in-genesis-11 Panin : The Astonishing Pattern of SEVENS in Genesis 1:1]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is one of his books for free: [https://tngchristians.ca/downloads/panin.pdf The Inspiration of the Scriptures Scientifically Demonstrated] by Ivan Panin&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is info on his first book with an audio file and some free PDFs: [https://sermons.logos.com/sermons/662325-bibliology-session-11-complexity-of-the-bible Bibliology Session 11-Complexity of the Bible]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is his first book: [https://www.scribd.com/doc/644433/Ivan-Panin-The-New-Testament-in-the-Original-Greek- The New Testament in the Original Greek. Text established by Ivan Panin by means of Bible numerics]&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a copy of his complete works, but it is a bit cumbersome to access: [https://archive.org/details/writingsofivanpa00pani/page/94/mode/2up Internet Archive - Ivan Panin]&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a number of video's at YouTube on Ivan Panin at: [https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ivan+panin+ Ivan Panin videos].&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is Ivan Panin's bio at Wikipedia and it takes a skeptical slant, but it does list all of his books: [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Panin Ivan Panin]&lt;br /&gt;
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Other than Panin's commentary on Genesis 1:1, I am not familiar with Panin's work. However, I thought you might be interested in his work. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:46, October 8, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Page move request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello again! I made a small mistake when I created a new page on [[OOP]]. I titled the page [[Object-oriented]], but it should really be titled [[Object-oriented programming]]. Would you please move the page for me? Sorry about my mistake! [[User:MayGodBless|MayGodBless]] ([[User talk:MayGodBless|talk]]) 11:26, October 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Done. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a Chance!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:37, October 10, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Numbers and the Bible ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I found this today: [https://www.biblestudy.org/bibleref/meaning-of-numbers-in-bible/infinity.html Meaning of numbers in the Bible].  The resource also covers the topic of infinity in the Bible. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 20:22, October 17, 2023 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is another reason why it's not a good idea to move to Russia: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Are the Russians as unhappy as they claim they are?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Am I moving to Russia? Nyet! [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 13:57, October 18, 2023 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Attention Deficit and Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD)''' is a controversial diagnosed [[disease]] of adolescents that is characterized by lack of ability to focus on the task at hand, and often with a lack of ability to sit still. One cause is a lack of ''discipline.''  However, diet, lack of exercise, environmental factors, and genetic factors can be causal factors for attention problems and/or hyperactivity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Hyperactive-Brain-Functional-Medicine/dp/0968510809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1273311192&amp;amp;sr=1-1 Healing the hyperactive brain by Michael Lyons, M.D.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In boys, a failure to be taught properly how to read with authentic [[phonics]] can result in misdiagnoses or exaggerated diagnoses as having ADHD, autism or other conditions that are rising rapidly as illiteracy is.  If a boy does not learn properly how to read, then he's likely to increasingly become a problem as he falls further and further behind.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Diagnosis ==&lt;br /&gt;
There are three common methods of diagnosing ADHD: parental observations and consultation with a healthcare provider, surveys and [[computer]] performance tests.  In addition, Quantitative EEG analysis can be helpful in diagnosing ADHD.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mindalive.com/1_0/article%203.pdf ADHD diagnosis and Quantitative EEG Analysis and audio-visual entrainment]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Surveys do not rely on an individual's willingness to take a computer performance test, but survey questions have an element of subjectivity.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Test of variables of Attention - T.O.V.A. computer performance test ===&lt;br /&gt;
The T.O.V.A. &amp;quot;is an objective, neurophysiological measure of attention, not a subjective rating of behavior. It is a 21.6 minute long, very simple &amp;quot;computer game&amp;quot; that measures your responses to either visual or auditory stimuli. These measurements are then compared to the measurements of a group of people without attention disorders who took the T.O.V.A.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tovatest.com/ TOVA test website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The TOVA test measures errors of omission commonly associated with inattention and errors of commission (misidentifying a closely resembling decoy stimuli) commonly associated with hyperactivity/impulsiveness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tovatest.com/about-the-t-o-v-a/ About the TOVA test]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a number of websites on the internet which offer free TOVA tests.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ehow.com/how_4449246_take-tova-adhd-test-free.html Free TOVA tests]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Treatment ==&lt;br /&gt;
There are a number of non-[[drug]] cures to ADHD used by a number of [[health]] professionals and schools which have been shown to be effective and can be used in conjunction with each other. For example, the treatments of: audio-visual entrainment, nutrition, exercise, cognitive development software, neurofeedback, psychosocial training and remediation of environmental contaminants and/or removing the patient from unhealthful environmental conditions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mindalive.com/3_1.htm Audio-visual entrainment study and ADHD]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mindalive.com/1_0/article%203.pdf ADHD and audio-visual entrainment]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0805061282/adhdnewscom02-20 ADHD and nutrition]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Butnik, Steven M. &amp;quot;Neurofeedback in adolescents and adults with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder.&amp;quot; Journal of Clinical Psychology, May 2005. Vol. 61 Issue 5, p621-625&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sharperprograms.com/ ADHD and cognitive development software]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://hes.dasa.ncsu.edu/news/exercise-and-adhd Exercise, cognitive training, psychosocial training and ADHD]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.amazon.com/Healing-Hyperactive-Brain-Functional-Medicine/dp/0968510809/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1273311192&amp;amp;sr=1-1 Healing the hyperactive brain by Michael Lyons, M.D.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Dr. Margolis, a pediatrician for 36 years who conducted an informal trial of Nikken magnetic products with a number of his patients with attention and behavior issues, reported positive results through the use of these specially engineered magnets.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''The ADD Answer: How to Help Your Child Now'' by Dr. Frank Lawlis, Plume; Illustrated edition (August 30, 2005)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://archive.md/Rr1ZX TEST FOR ADD ISSUES AND THE USE OF MAGNETIC PRODUCTS]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Overuse of drug treatments ===&lt;br /&gt;
Sadly, the &amp;quot;treatment&amp;quot; that child psychiatrists, and school districts, often prescribe (or demand) involves giving the patient a large number of expensive &amp;amp;ndash; and possibly dangerous &amp;amp;ndash; drugs.&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
Symptoms:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/attention-deficit-hyperactivity-disorder/what-are-the-symptoms-of-adhd-in-children.shtml Symptoms of ADHD in children] - National Institute of Health&lt;br /&gt;
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Neurofeedback:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23623825 Beneficial outcome from EEG-neurofeedback on creative music performance, attention and well-being in school children] - PubMed journal article&lt;br /&gt;
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ADHD Diets:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [http://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/guide/adhd-diets ADHD Diets]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Hopelessness of atheism</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Rev. Dr. Robert Stuart MacArthur.JPG|thumb|right|200px|The Rev. Dr. [[Robert Stuart MacArthur]] was an early proponent of atheism being a causal factor for suicide.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/misc/religion_suicide.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/12/2303&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9507E2DC1131E033A25754C1A96F9C94659ED7CF NY Times, September 17, 1894, ATHEISM A CAUSE OF SUICIDE.; Dr. MacArthur Preaches on the Sin and Cowardice of Self-Destruction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and suicide]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
On March 8, 2013, Damon Linker wrote in ''The Week'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|If [[atheism]] is true, it is far from being good news. Learning that we're alone in the [[universe]], that no one hears or answers our [[prayer]]s, that humanity is entirely the product of random events, that we have no more intrinsic dignity than non-human and even non-animate clumps of matter, that we face certain annihilation in death, that our sufferings are ultimately pointless, that our lives and loves do not at all matter in a larger sense, that those who commit horrific evils and elude human punishment get away with their crimes scot free — all of this (and much more) is utterly tragic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://theweek.com/article/index/241108/where-are-the-honest-atheists Where are the honest atheists?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Although [[Bertrand Russell]] was an [[agnosticism|agnostic]], he had favorable views of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Russell, Bertrand (1947) &amp;quot;Am I An Atheist Or An Agnostic?&amp;quot;[http://www.luminary.us/russell/atheist_agnostic.html] Most online sources say &amp;quot;by which one prove,&amp;quot; probably a mistake.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Bertrand Russell wrote in 1903 about [[entropy]] and the universe:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|That man is the product of causes that had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of [[atom]]s; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve individual life beyond the grave; that all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the [[solar system]], and that the whole temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins- all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding dispair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely built.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/pessimism/entropy.html Entropy and heat death]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In a letter to Lowes Dickinson, Bertrand Russell wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|We stand on the shores of an ocean, crying to the night and the emptiness; sometimes a voice answers out of the darkness.  But it is a voice of one drowning; and in a moment the silence returns” (Bertrand Russell, Autobiography, p. 287 as quoted by Leroy Koopman, “Famous Atheists Give Their Testimonies,” Moody Monthly, Nov. 1975, p. 124.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guidelines.org/commentaries/atheism-and-the-despair-of-hope/#sthash.deoxNoqK.dpuf Atheism and the despair of hope]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Billcraig_czvx.jpg‎‎|thumb|150px|left|[[William Lane Craig]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] [[William Lane Craig]] wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|For example, the outspoken atheist and [[Nobel Prize]]–winning physicist Steven Weinberg, at the close of his much-acclaimed book ''The First Three Minutes'', writes,&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is almost irresistible for humans to believe that we have some special relation to the universe, that human life is not just a more-or-less farcical outcome of a chain of accidents reaching back to the first three minutes, but that somehow we were built in from the beginning.… It is very hard to realize that this all is just a tiny part of an overwhelmingly hostile universe. It is even harder to realize that this present universe has evolved from an unspeakably unfamiliar early condition, and faces a future extinction of endless cold or intolerable heat. The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
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:But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some consolation in the research itself. Men and women are not content to comfort themselves with tales of gods and giants, or to confine their thoughts to the daily affairs of life; they also build telescopes and satellites and accelerators, and sit at their desks for endless hours working out the meaning of the data they gather. The effort to understand the universe is one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of farce, and gives it some of the grace of tragedy.&lt;br /&gt;
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There’s something strange about Weinberg’s moving description of the human predicament: Tragedy is not a neutral term. It expresses an evaluation of a situation. Weinberg evidently sees a life devoted to scientific pursuits as truly meaningful, and therefore it’s tragic that such a noble pursuit should be extinguished. But why, given atheism, should the pursuit of science be any different from slouching about doing nothing? Since there is no objective purpose to human life, none of our pursuits has any objective significance, however important and dear they may seem to us subjectively. They’re no more significant than shuffling deck chairs on the [[Titanic]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.cbn.com/special/apologetics/articles/practical-impossibility-of-atheism.aspx The Practical Impossibility of Atheism] by William Lane Craig&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist Derek Beres claimed: &amp;quot;We’re the product of millions of years of [[evolution]]. Most species are extinct, as humans will eventually be.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/the-arrogance-of-atheism The Arrogance of Atheism?] by Derek Beres&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and death]] and [[Atheism and meaninglessness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In December 2003, the University of Warwick reported: &amp;quot;Dr. Stephen Joseph, from the University of Warwick, said: &amp;quot;Religious people seem to have a greater purpose in life, which is why they are happier. Looking at the research evidence, it seems that those who celebrate the Christian meaning of [[Christmas]] are on the whole likely to be happier.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/A/20037338.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information please see: [[Atheism and suicide]] and [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and alcoholism|Atheism and alcohol abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist infighting making the atheist community unappealing to many ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The significant amount of unpleasant personalities within atheism and the resulting amount of atheist infighting has made atheist community unattractive to people who are looking for a sense of community and/or a common cause (see: [[Atheist factions]] and [[Views on atheists]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100230985/how-atheists-became-the-most-colossally-smug-and-annoying-people-on-the-planet/ Brendan O'Neill, ''The Telegraph, How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet'',  August 14th, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/01/22/is-atheism-a-religion/atheism-cannot-replace-religion Atheism cannot replace religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists, motivation, depression and dopamine levels in the brain ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and motivation]] and [[Atheism and inspiration]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''Scientific American'': &amp;quot;Research also suggests that a religious brain exhibits higher levels of [[dopamine]], a hormone associated with increased attention and motivation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/askthebrains/ Ask the Brains, Scientific American, Dec 23, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and motivation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information, please see: [[Atheism and motivation#Atheism, depression, suicide and dopamine levels in the brain|Atheism, depression, suicide and dopamine levels in the brain]] and [[Atheism and depression]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism contrasted with Christianity ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Unattractiveness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The American Christian Todd Strandberg said of atheism: &amp;quot;The ranks of atheists have always [[Atheist Population|been small]]... The key problem with atheism is that it lacks a strong 'selling point'&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.raptureready.com/rr-atheism.html Atheism: The cult of death]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Christians maintain that the benefits of Christianity totally outweigh the benefits of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For example, Bible believing Christians point out that the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] is more depressed than the Christian population and that atheists will ultimately wind up in [[hell]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike atheism which merely offers vanity and unrelenting despair, [[Christianity]] offers an accurate view of the universe and man's place in it. For more information, please see: [[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]] and [[Christian joy, atheist despair and the good news of Christianity]] and [[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recommended book ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''The Case for Utter Hopelessness: Why Atheism Leads to Unyielding Despair'' by Austin C Brown, 2017, ISBN-10: 1547010622&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism, agnosticism and pessimism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Decline of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Morale of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and irrationality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Unattractiveness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist worldview]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist worldview, nature and futility]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and death]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ex-Christians, self-esteem and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Second law of thermodynamics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Genetic entropy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Other:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Essay:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Will atheism ever disappear?|Will atheism ever disappear?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://creation.com/suicidal-atheist-converts-to-christ A suicidal atheist converts to Christ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.oocities.org/athens/delphi/8449/atheism.html Atheism and Death: Why the atheist must face death with despair] By Dustin Shramek&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://jwwartick.com/2011/01/03/atheism-meaningless/ Atheism’s Universe is Meaningless and Valueless]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/atheism-a-philosophy-without-hope Atheism: A philosophy without hope]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheism and despair:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv3TFg9SJb4 Atheism: Unyielding Despair] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Beggar in Cambodia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Most atheists likely live in [[East Asia]] (see: [[Asian atheism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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A beggar in [[Cambodia]]. In Cambodia, the vast majority of the population adheres to a nontheistic form of [[Buddhism]] called the Theravada school of Buddhism. &lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Burke Campbell&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Burke, Daniel, Religion News Service (May 13, 2009). [https://web.archive.org/web/20130310113024/http://www.pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx &amp;quot;Religious people make better citizens, study says&amp;quot;]. Pew Research Forum. Archived on March 10, 2013 by Internet Archive.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*Campbell, David and Putnam, Robert (November 14, 2010).  [https://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm &amp;quot;Religious people are 'better neighbors'&amp;quot;]. USA Today website.  Retrieved on July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Concerning the issue of '''atheism and charity''', charitable giving by [[atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] in the [[United States]] is significantly less than by [[theism|theists]], according to a study by the [[Barna Group]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx Religious people make better citizens, study says] by Pew Research Forum, May 13, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm Religious people are 'better neighbors'] by ''USA Today'', 11/14/2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Brooks wrote in ''Policy Review'' regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the [[Roper Center for Public Opinion Research]]):&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brooks, Arthur C., [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3647/is_200310/ai_n9340592/Religious faith and charitable giving] ''Policy Review'',  Oct-Dec 2003, p.2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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ABC News reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. &lt;br /&gt;
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Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Stossel, John and Kendall, Kristina [https://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&amp;amp;page=2 Who Gives and Who Doesn't?] ABC News, November 28, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Where is the nearest atheist orphanage.png|left|300px|thumbnail|A graphic from the website Answers for Atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://answersforatheists.com/ Answers for Atheists]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2009, Pew Research Forum reported that a comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that atheistic [[evolution]]ary thinking has engendered [[social darwinism]] and given that [[Atheism and morality|the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology]], the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not surprising.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist Hemant Mehta on charity fundraising from fellow nonbelievers ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Hemant Mehta.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|[[Hemant Mehta]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]] and [[Atheist organizations and fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Secular humanism]] is a [[Schools of atheist thought|type of atheism]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Foundation Beyond Belief is a charitable foundation created to focus on &amp;quot;[[Humanism|humanist]] generosity and compassion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://foundationbeyondbelief.org/inside-fbb/about/ Foundation Beyond Belief]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist [[Hemant Mehta]] said about raising money from fellow nonbelievers:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Meanwhile, I’ve had one hell of a time convincing people to give to the Foundation Beyond Belief — and I help lead that organization.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/01/08/a-few-thoughts-about-fundraising/ A Few Thoughts About Fundraising]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lower atheist fundraising and desecularization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The 21st century is expected to be a century of global [[desecularization]] and religious organizations significantly outperforming atheist organizations in fundraising will contribute to this matter (see: [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]] and [[Causes of desecularization]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Women are less likely to be atheists. Women donate more  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Surveys throughout the world and other data indicate that women are less inclined to be atheists (See: [[Atheism and women]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Khan, Razib (November 18, 2010).  [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/sex-differences-in-global-atheism-part-n/ &amp;quot;Gene expression; Sex differences in global atheism, part N&amp;quot;].  Discover magazine website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Carter, Stephen L. (March 27, 2015).  [http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-27/the-atheism-gap &amp;quot;The atheism gap&amp;quot;].  ''BloombergView''.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://blog.oup.com/2014/09/atheism-feminism/#sthash.0yIBbelF.dpuf Atheism and Feminism], ''Oxford University Press'' blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PZ&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Myers, P.Z. (June 29, 2010).  [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/29/the-woman-problem/ &amp;quot;The woman problem&amp;quot;]. Pharyngula [blog].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''Fortune'' magazine women donate more to charitable causes than men: “Women are very involved in charitable giving,” explained Nancy Heiser, vice president of wealth management at UBS. “The reasons are simple: Women are living longer, making more money and may be inheriting twice—once from their parents and again if they outlive their spouses.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Research echoes Heiser’s sentiment. According to WPI’s 2010 Women Give study, American households headed by single females give 57% more than those headed by single males.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist movement, women and a smaller base of major donors]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and lower empathy ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Feed My Starving Children recipients.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|African children who received Manna Packs of rice from the Christian relief organization Feed My Starving Children.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Barna Group]] found that even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and empathy]] and [[Atheism and narcissism]] and [[Atheism and sadism]] and [[Atheism and mass murder]] &lt;br /&gt;
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In 2007 the Baptist Press reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...a pollster at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, found that adults who profess a belief in God are significantly more likely than atheists to say that forgiveness, patience, generosity and a concern for others are &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot; In fact, the poll found that on 11 of 12 values, there was a double-digit gap between theists and atheists, with theists more likely to label each value &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The survey by sociologist and pollster Reginald Bibby examined the beliefs of 1,600 Canadians, 82 percent who said they believed in &amp;quot;God or a higher power&amp;quot; and 18 percent who said they did not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foust, Michael (October 23, 2007).  [http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=26675 &amp;quot;Poll:  Atheists less likely to 'do good'&amp;quot;] Baptist Press.  Retrieved on July 20, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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From a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]], moral and spiritual perspective, atheists have an inability to satisfactorily explain the existence of [[love]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-love/ How do atheists define love?] by Dr. Taylor Marshall&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://atheistforum.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/what-is-love-how-materialist-atheism-fails-to-have-a-satisfactory-answer/ What is love? how materialist atheism fails to have a satisfactory answer], July 9, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  See also: [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and social justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists with social contacts with Christians give more to charity than other atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheists adopting theistic morality]] and [[Protestant cultural legacies]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[William Lane Craig]] points out that the social science research indicates that atheists who have family/social contacts with religious people give more to charity than atheists who do not have such an influence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Craig, citing research published by author Arthur C. Brooks, points out that atheists raised in religious households are twice as likely to give to charity than those raised in nonreligious households.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist Dr. Melanie Brewster on church attendance and volunteerism/philanthropy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheists and church attendance]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At the [[atheist conferences|atheist conference]] Skepticon 7, Dr. Melanie Brewster (who is an atheist herself), indicated that people who attend church at least weekly volunteer and donate more to secular/nonreligious causes than those who attend church rarely or never.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB7Dlwaufyk Why is Psychology Silent When it Comes to Atheism? - Dr. Melanie Brewster - Skepticon 7]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== American atheist organizations focus on church/state issues - poor largely ignored ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and racism]] and [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and love]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Storefront church.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|Storefront churches often provide assistance to local residents. &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the atheist [[Sikivu Hutchinson]], [[atheist organizations]] generally focus on church/state separation and creationism issues and not the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hutchinson, Sikivu (June 16, 2014).  [https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ &amp;quot;Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about&amp;quot;].  Washington Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
There is a significant amount of [[racism]] within the [[atheist population]] (see: [[Atheism and racism]]). This also holds true for atheists in the [[Western World]] as well (see: [[Western atheism and race]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014, the African-American atheist woman [[Sikivu Hutchinson]] wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that white atheists organizations in the United States generally focus on church/state separation and [[creationism]] issues and not the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hutchinson, Sikivu (June 16, 2014).  [https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ &amp;quot;Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about&amp;quot;].  Washington Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do focus on helping poor African Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Much of the focus on church/state separation and creationism issues relative to atheist organizations involves initiating and litigating lawsuits (see: [[Atheist lawsuits]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist activist Lee Moore: Donations to atheist organizations are down due to infighting within the atheist movement ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2017, the atheist activist Lee Moore declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|If you look at the major atheist groups right now, like the national groups, the ones that are doing the real activist work... They are not bringing in the kind of donations they used to.  Most of them are starved for cash. They're downsizing left and right. Because people aren't just giving like they used to. And I talked to a lot of the major donors out there and they said, &amp;quot;Well, we're kind of tired of seeing the atheist community just fight amongst itself and not really get anything done. We'd rather not give money if we don't think it's going to go somewhere.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG6LKUbOdk Lee Moore and Steve Shives Talk About the Future of the Atheist Movement],&lt;br /&gt;
- video quote comes 21 minutes and 13 seconds into the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheist movement and major donors]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scott Simon of National Public Radio on organized atheism and its small measure of charitable work ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon of [[National Public Radio]] (NPR): &amp;quot;I've covered a lot of wars, famines and tragedies. And it seems to me, truly, every theater of suffering I've ever been to, there is a dauntless nun, priest, clergy or religious person who was working very selflessly and bravely there for the good of human beings. And I don't run into organized groups of atheists who do this.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;npr.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.npr.org/2017/05/27/530337283/richard-dawkins-on-terrorism-and-religion Richard Dawkins On Terrorism And Religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[New Atheism|New atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]]: &amp;quot;Perhaps there is not enough of them.&amp;quot;...&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;npr.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon, NPR: &amp;quot;But I do wonder, am I just not seeing the world correctly to see large numbers of well-motivated atheists lending their lives to trying to better the world? Or they're - if I might put it this way, are they more concerned about just being right intellectually?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;npr.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Western atheists have not done a significant amount of outreach to poor countries ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Compassion International and Tanzania.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|A photograph of [[Tanzania]]n children taken by a blogger of the Christian relief organization Compassion International. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism and relief outreaches to third-world countries, often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). ]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist population in the [[Western World]] has not had significant outreaches to spread atheism outside the Western World nor have atheist organizations done a significant amount of relief efforts to poor countries.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism/outreaches often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Historically, Christians have made great evangelism efforts to reach every people group across the earth. They have also engaged in a lot of Christian relief work to help lessen poverty. In 2005, there were four times as many non-[[Western World]] Christians as there were Western World Christians.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30077 Is Christianity taking over the planet?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The current atheist population mostly resides in East Asia (particularly China) and in secular Europe/Australia among whites.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/23/a-surprising-map-of-where-the-worlds-atheists-live/ A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live], By Max Fisher and Caitlin Dewey, ''Washington Post'', May 23, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Translation of Darwin's Origin of the Species vs. the Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Since [[World War II]] a majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the [[evolution]]ary position which employs methodological naturalism have been [[Atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] (see also: [[Causes of evolutionary belief]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Don Batten, [https://creation.com/a-whos-who-of-evolutionists A ''Who’s Who'' of evolutionists] ''Creation'' 20(1):32, December 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jonathan Sarfati]], Ph.D.,F.M., [http://www.creation.com/content/view/3830 ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 1, Facts and Bias]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   [[Charles Darwin]]'s evolutionary book ''The Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life'' has been translated into 35 languages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/valentinedarwin/vanwyhe Darwin in translation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Bible]] has been translated into 518 languages and 2,798 languages have at least some portion of the Bible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.audiobiblesdownload.com/bible-translations/ Bible translations]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Social darwinism}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inside Philanthropy website commentary atheist philanthropy related to universities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the website ''Inside Philanthropy'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Universities lack the kind of entrenched atheist architecture—endowments, departments, conferences and the like—that religious studies departments have enjoyed for centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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What's more, there are several major funders who've put muscle behind religious scholarship on campus, such as the Lilly Endowment and the Templeton Foundation. But we've never seen a gift for related to aethism [sic] - either on a campus or elsewhere. Nor have our data gathering friends the Foundation Center, which reports exactly zero grants related to atheism in a database covers tens of foundations. (That said, some grants have gone to groups that put forth a &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; agenda.)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[Beyond Belief: As Americans Warm to Atheism, Will Donors Follow?] by Mike Scutari, ''Inside Philanthropy''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist organizations and scandals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist organizations and scandals]] and [[Atheist organizations and financial mismanagement]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In a 2018 YouTube video entitled ''[[David Silverman]] Ousted as President of [[American Atheists]]'', the atheist YouTube channel Utah Outcasts said in a video about David Silverman and atheist organizations: &amp;quot;Many other people were also like maybe he was embezzling funds because we know people in [[Atheist activist|atheist activist]] communities where that kind of sh*t happens. Yes, it was kind of common.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUvX5wTf8TM David Silverman Ousted as President of American Atheists], Utah Atheists, Go to the 3 minute mark in the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Two atheist nonprofit scandals which received some publicity were the organizations [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] and the [[We Are Atheism]] organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/15/an-update-on-we-are-atheism/ An Update on We Are Atheism] by Hemant Mehta, September 15, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=== Atheist nonprofit scandals, lack of critical thinking and lack of due diligence ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and critical thinking]]&lt;br /&gt;
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People who think about donating priorities and perform due diligence are less likely to donate to organizations who engage in scandalous behavior. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Skepchick]] writer Heina Dadabhoy wrote about atheists and charitable giving:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|So many of us don’t [[Critical thinking|critically examine]] to what we pay attention and why, to whom we give our money and why, of what sort of news we keep abreast and why, about what we find out and why. We fail to recognize the disturbing patterns indicating structural injustices that emerge when we consider all the factors at hand and how these sorts of situations play out.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://skepchick.org/2014/01/fundraising/ Atheist Priorities in Fundraising] by Heina Dadabhoy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== David Gorski's complaint about atheist nonprofits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist organizations and financial mismanagement]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Richard Dawkins photo.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|200px|right|The [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] had a scandal related to an embezzlement allegation.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheist organizations and scandals]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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David Gorski at Scienceblogs wrote about atheist/skeptic organizations and financial mismanagement:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In any case, this makes me wonder: What is it about rationalist/skeptic groups that make them seemingly have such a hard time running their organizations well from a financial standpoint? After all, just a couple of months ago the [[Center for Inquiry]] (CFI) sent out letters desperately begging for more contributions. The reason was that CFI had one large benefactor whose yearly contribution funded approximately 20-25% of the yearly CFI budget. As clueless as I may be about finances, even I know that you don’t use such donations to run the operating expenses of an organization, because you can’t count on them from year to year and it’s too big a chunk. You use this money for special short-term projects and a rainy day fund. Not surprisingly, when this mysterious donor stopped donating earlier this year, suddently CFI was in deep doo-doo from a financial standpoint, prompting the desperate plea for donations and deep budget cuts. I realize that the down economy has played havoc with many nonprofit and charitable organizations, but these issues with skeptical organizations seem to go beyond just that.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism, uncharitableness and suicide ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A number of studies have confirmed that there is an inverse relationship to doing volunteer work and depression.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/science-of-happiness/caring/caring-and-happiness-reviews/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has a higher suicide rate than the general population. (see: [[Atheism and suicide]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism, leftism, social justice/progressive values and hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Historically,  the [[secular left]] has been dominant within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and politics]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Progressive values according to leading progressive websites ===&lt;br /&gt;
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According to leading progressive/leftists websites, progressive values include: caring and responsibility, carried out with strength; freedom; opportunity; responsibility; cooperation/community; protection/fairness; and honesty and open communication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/03/22/1761431/what-it-means-to-be-a-progressive-a-manifesto/ What It Means To Be A Progressive: A Manifesto], Thinkprogress.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/09/658017/-What-are-Progressive-Values What are Progressive Values], Dailykos.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has fallen short of the above-mentioned values (See: [[Atheism and social justice]] and [[Atheist hypocrisy]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and individualism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists tend to be more indivualistic than theists&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://doi.org/10.1080/14616696.2018.1511819 The atheistic factor? Explaining the link between atheistic beliefs and child-rearing values in 30 countries in Europe], Eline Berkers &amp;amp; Inge Sieben (2020)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which may explain their lower charitability.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist population and immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Irreligious Britain and low social mobility]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Social Darwinism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist hospitals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://atheism-analyzed.blogspot.com/2011/05/atheist-charitable-giving.html Atheist charitable giving] by Atheism Analyzed&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It was the home of longtime House Speaker [[Sam Rayburn]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The city is named for James Bonham, one of the defenders of the [[Alamo]] who sought the assistance of James Fannin (who was at Goliad at the time) to assist in the defense (Fannin was unable to send aid).  As a nod to Texas history, Bonham is the county seat of Fannin County.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Start of the Conservative of the Year 2022 page. Please add to the list! &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ashley Moody]], for being the top vote-getter in [[Florida]] by a landslide of 61-39% points in her reelection as its [[Trump]]-supporting Attorney General&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron DeSantis]], for standing up for [[Conservative]] policies, for winning in a historic landslide, ad whose House map helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Johnson]], defeated the corrupt [[Dropbox Dems]] in the State of [[Wisconsin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/anonymous-wisconsin-heroes-proved-collapse-democrat-ballot-gathering-apparatus/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donald Trump]], went 147 for 158 candidate endorsements to win back the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] in to [[2022 Midterm elections]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marjorie Taylor Greene]], CP Conservative of the Year alum who opposed the [[Ukraine aid]]/[[FTX scandal]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Sen. [[Rick Scott]], challenged [[Mitch McConnell]] for GOP Senate leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
*Col. [[Douglas MacGregor]], outspoken critic of [[globalism]] and defender of [[freedom]] and [[democracy]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elon Musk]], although not entirely [[Conservative]], for purchasing [[Twitter]] despite massive opposition from the Left, for encouraging his followers to vote for [[Republican Party|Republicans]], and for unblocking former President Trump and many conservative pages like [[Babylon Bee]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Zeldin]], for running a solid campaign, only losing by less than 6 points in a strongly [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] state, and whose coattails helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
* Justice [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning evil ''[[Roe v. Wade]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] despite his mistakes, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harriet Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
* Kris Kobach for winning as Attorney General of Kansas, in the political comeback of the year&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Samuel Alito]] for writing the bold and assertive majority opinion for overturning Roe vs. Wade. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Federalist Society]] for playing a vital role in getting Roe vs. Wade overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
* U.S. Supreme Court justices who ruled that Roe vs. Wade should be overturned (Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett). &lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Conservative of the Year]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2020s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
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*[[Ashley Moody]], for being the top vote-getter in [[Florida]] by a landslide of 61-39% points in her reelection as its [[Trump]]-supporting Attorney General&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron DeSantis]], for standing up for [[Conservative]] policies, for winning in a historic landslide, ad whose House map helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Johnson]], defeated the corrupt [[Dropbox Dems]] in the State of [[Wisconsin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/anonymous-wisconsin-heroes-proved-collapse-democrat-ballot-gathering-apparatus/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donald Trump]], went 147 for 158 candidate endorsements to win back the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] in to [[2022 Midterm elections]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marjorie Taylor Greene]], CP Conservative of the Year alum who opposed the [[Ukraine aid]]/[[FTX scandal]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Sen. [[Rick Scott]], challenged [[Mitch McConnell]] for GOP Senate leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
*Col. [[Douglas MacGregor]], outspoken critic of [[globalism]] and defender of [[freedom]] and [[democracy]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elon Musk]], although not entirely [[Conservative]], for purchasing [[Twitter]] despite massive opposition from the Left, for encouraging his followers to vote for [[Republican Party|Republicans]], and for unblocking former President Trump and many conservative pages like [[Babylon Bee]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Zeldin]], for running a solid campaign, only losing by less than 6 points in a strongly [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] state, and whose coattails helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
* Justice [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning evil ''[[Roe v. Wade]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] despite his mistakes, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harriet Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
* Kris Kobach for winning as Attorney General of Kansas, in the political comeback of the year&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Samuel Alito]] for writing the bold and assertive majority opinion for overturning Roe vs. Wade. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Federalist Society]] for playing a vital role in getting Roe vs. Wade overturned.&lt;br /&gt;
* The 5 most conservative U.S. Supreme Court justices who voted for Roe vs. Wade to being overturned (Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett). &lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Conservative of the Year]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2020s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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&lt;div&gt;Start of the Conservative of the Year 2022 page. Please add to the list! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ashley Moody]], for being the top vote-getter in [[Florida]] by a landslide of 61-39% points in her reelection as its [[Trump]]-supporting Attorney General&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron DeSantis]], for standing up for [[Conservative]] policies, for winning in a historic landslide, ad whose House map helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Johnson]], defeated the corrupt [[Dropbox Dems]] in the State of [[Wisconsin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/anonymous-wisconsin-heroes-proved-collapse-democrat-ballot-gathering-apparatus/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donald Trump]], went 147 for 158 candidate endorsements to win back the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] in to [[2022 Midterm elections]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marjorie Taylor Greene]], CP Conservative of the Year alum who opposed the [[Ukraine aid]]/[[FTX scandal]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Sen. [[Rick Scott]], challenged [[Mitch McConnell]] for GOP Senate leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
*Col. [[Douglas MacGregor]], outspoken critic of [[globalism]] and defender of [[freedom]] and [[democracy]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elon Musk]], although not entirely [[Conservative]], for purchasing [[Twitter]] despite massive opposition from the Left, for encouraging his followers to vote for [[Republican Party|Republicans]], and for unblocking former President Trump and many conservative pages like [[Babylon Bee]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Zeldin]], for running a solid campaign, only losing by less than 6 points in a strongly [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] state, and whose coattails helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
* Justice [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning evil ''[[Roe v. Wade]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] despite his mistakes, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harriet Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
* Kris Kobach for winning as Attorney General of Kansas, in the political comeback of the year&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Samuel Alito]] for writing the bold and assertive majority opinion for overturning Roe vs. Wade. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Federalist Society]] for playing a vital role in getting Roe vs. Wade overturned. &lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Conservative of the Year]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2020s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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&lt;div&gt;Start of the Conservative of the Year 2022 page. Please add to the list! &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ashley Moody]], for being the top vote-getter in [[Florida]] by a landslide of 61-39% points in her reelection as its [[Trump]]-supporting Attorney General&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron DeSantis]], for standing up for [[Conservative]] policies, for winning in a historic landslide, ad whose House map helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ron Johnson]], defeated the corrupt [[Dropbox Dems]] in the State of [[Wisconsin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/anonymous-wisconsin-heroes-proved-collapse-democrat-ballot-gathering-apparatus/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Donald Trump]], went 147 for 158 candidate endorsements to win back the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] in to [[2022 Midterm elections]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://ballotpedia.org/Endorsements_by_Donald_Trump&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Marjorie Taylor Greene]], CP Conservative of the Year alum who opposed the [[Ukraine aid]]/[[FTX scandal]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Sen. [[Rick Scott]], challenged [[Mitch McConnell]] for GOP Senate leadership.&lt;br /&gt;
*Col. [[Douglas MacGregor]], outspoken critic of [[globalism]] and defender of [[freedom]] and [[democracy]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elon Musk]], although not entirely [[Conservative]], for purchasing [[Twitter]] despite massive opposition from the Left, for encouraging his followers to vote for [[Republican Party|Republicans]], and for unblocking former President Trump and many conservative pages like [[Babylon Bee]].&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Lee Zeldin]], for running a solid campaign, only losing by less than 6 points in a strongly [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] state, and whose coattails helped the [[Republican Party|Republicans]] win the House of Representatives. &lt;br /&gt;
* Justice [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning evil ''[[Roe v. Wade]]''&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] despite his mistakes, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harriet Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
* Kris Kobach for winning as Attorney General of Kansas, in the political comeback of the year&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Samuel Alito]] who wrote the majority opinion for Roe vs. Wade. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Federalist Society]] for playing a vital role in getting Roe vs. Wade overturned. &lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Conservative of the Year]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:2020s]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him.[https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Now wait a minute, if say RT looks good, I'm a Putin stooge. If I say it looks bad, I'm a Russophobe. Maybe I don't want to play that game. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, he's made [[Pollyanna]]...er, [[AOC]] look like the fool she is on Twitter on several occasions, so that's a start. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:18, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, so if she ''didn't'' crap in his bed, that means there's no animosity and possibly a lingering relationship? I'm really getting confused now by this reasoning. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:43, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk quote: &amp;quot;I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.&amp;quot;[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elon-musk-takes-metaphorical-flamethrower-to-self-proclaimed-socialists] Musk is a libertarian. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nominations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that I can add many nominations such as &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning [[Roe V. Wade]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] I dislike him, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herschel Walker]] in case he defeating [[Raphael Warnock]] in the run-off&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harreit Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
:They all look good. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I want also add [[Kris Kobach]] for his victory in Kansas attorney general election, despite liberal overspent to defeat him --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:40, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices that clearly ruled in favor of oveturning Roe vs. Wade should win in 2022. &amp;quot;The majority opinion, authored by Justice Samuel Alito, was joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Chief Justice John Roberts filed an opinion concurring in the judgement, in which he advocated for a more narrow ruling.&amp;quot;[https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251550/supreme-court-justices-who-overturned-roe-v-wade]  Maybe the 6th judge John Roberts should be left out of winning. Andy Schlafy would know better than I whether Roberts should be left out since he probably knows more about the ruling than I do. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 03:28, November 20, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The advantage of giving the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices instead of just giving Clarence Thomas the award is that Samuel Alito is deserving of the award just was much as Clarence Thomas. Overturning Roe vs. Wade was a long sought over and hard fought goal of conservatives so the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices should win. Alternatively, The Federalist Society or Donald Trump should win since they both were responsible for more conservative SCOTUS judges. In retrospect, maybe giving the award to the Federalist Society might be the way to go since they were most responsible for overturning Roe vs. Wade. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 09:47, November 20, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him.[https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Now wait a minute, if say RT looks good, I'm a Putin stooge. If I say it looks bad, I'm a Russophobe. Maybe I don't want to play that game. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, he's made [[Pollyanna]]...er, [[AOC]] look like the fool she is on Twitter on several occasions, so that's a start. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:18, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, so if she ''didn't'' crap in his bed, that means there's no animosity and possibly a lingering relationship? I'm really getting confused now by this reasoning. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:43, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk quote: &amp;quot;I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.&amp;quot;[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elon-musk-takes-metaphorical-flamethrower-to-self-proclaimed-socialists] Musk is a libertarian. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nominations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that I can add many nominations such as &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning [[Roe V. Wade]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] I dislike him, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herschel Walker]] in case he defeating [[Raphael Warnock]] in the run-off&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harreit Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:They all look good. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I want also add [[Kris Kobach]] for his victory in Kansas attorney general election, despite liberal overspent to defeat him --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:40, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices that clearly ruled in favor of oveturning Roe vs. Wade should win in 2022. &amp;quot;The majority opinion, authored by Justice Samuel Alito, was joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Chief Justice John Roberts filed an opinion concurring in the judgement, in which he advocated for a more narrow ruling.&amp;quot;[https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251550/supreme-court-justices-who-overturned-roe-v-wade]  Maybe the 6th judge John Roberts should be left out of winning. Andy Schlafy would know better than I whether Roberts should be left out since he probably knows more about the ruling than I do. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 03:28, November 20, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::The advantage of giving the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices instead of just giving Clarence Thomas the award is that Samuel Alito is deserving of the award just was much as Clarence Thomas. Overturning Roe vs. Wade was a long sought over and hard fought goal of conservatives so the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices should win. Alternatively, The Federalist Society or Donald Trump should win since they both were responsible for more conservative SCOTUS judges. In retrospect, maybe giving the award to the Federalist Society might be the way to go since they were most responsible for overturning Roe vs. Wade. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 09:47, November 20, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Conservative of the Year 2022</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Nominations */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him.[https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Now wait a minute, if say RT looks good, I'm a Putin stooge. If I say it looks bad, I'm a Russophobe. Maybe I don't want to play that game. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, he's made [[Pollyanna]]...er, [[AOC]] look like the fool she is on Twitter on several occasions, so that's a start. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:18, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, so if she ''didn't'' crap in his bed, that means there's no animosity and possibly a lingering relationship? I'm really getting confused now by this reasoning. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:43, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk quote: &amp;quot;I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.&amp;quot;[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elon-musk-takes-metaphorical-flamethrower-to-self-proclaimed-socialists] Musk is a libertarian. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nominations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that I can add many nominations such as &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning [[Roe V. Wade]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] I dislike him, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herschel Walker]] in case he defeating [[Raphael Warnock]] in the run-off&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harreit Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:They all look good. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I want also add [[Kris Kobach]] for his victory in Kansas attorney general election, despite liberal overspent to defeat him --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:40, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices that clearly ruled in favor of oveturning Roe vs. Wade should win in 2022. &amp;quot;The majority opinion, authored by Justice Samuel Alito, was joined by Justices Clarence Thomas, Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Chief Justice John Roberts filed an opinion concurring in the judgement, in which he advocated for a more narrow ruling.&amp;quot;[https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/251550/supreme-court-justices-who-overturned-roe-v-wade]  Maybe the 6th judge John Roberts should be left out of winning. Andy Schlafy would know better than I whether Roberts should be left out since he probably knows more about the ruling than I do. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 03:28, November 20, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Nominations */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him.[https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Now wait a minute, if say RT looks good, I'm a Putin stooge. If I say it looks bad, I'm a Russophobe. Maybe I don't want to play that game. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:39, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, he's made [[Pollyanna]]...er, [[AOC]] look like the fool she is on Twitter on several occasions, so that's a start. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:18, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, so if she ''didn't'' crap in his bed, that means there's no animosity and possibly a lingering relationship? I'm really getting confused now by this reasoning. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:43, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk quote: &amp;quot;I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.&amp;quot;[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elon-musk-takes-metaphorical-flamethrower-to-self-proclaimed-socialists] Musk is a libertarian. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Nominations ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I think that I can add many nominations such as &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Glenn Youngkin]] deserve nomination for For his reforms in education and elections laws after assuming the position of governor of Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[JD Vance]] for leading successful America first Senate campaign&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Clarence Thomas]] for his rule to overturning [[Roe V. Wade]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Joe Lombardo]] for winning Nevada gubernatorial election&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Greg Abbott]] for his efforts to secure the borders and stop illegal immigration, and for his big win over [[Beto O'Rourke]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Marco Rubio]] for his big victory over [[Val Demings]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Lawler for his victory over [[Sean Patrick Maloney]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Brian Kemp]] I dislike him, but ending [[Stacey Abrams]] political career have blessed our heart&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herschel Walker]] in case he defeating [[Raphael Warnock]] in the run-off&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Giorgia Meloni]] for winning the Italian election&lt;br /&gt;
* Harreit Hageman for defeating [[Liz Cheney]] in Wyoming&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:They all look good. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
I want also add [[Kris Kobach]] for his victory in Kansas attorney general election, despite liberal overspent to defeat him --[[User:Alex Kosh|Alex Kosh]] ([[User talk:Alex Kosh|talk]]) 23:40, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think the 5 U.S. Supreme Court Justices that ruled in favor of oveturning Roe vs. Wade should win in 2022 (perhaps the 4 most conservative judges since Roberts is kind of wishy-washy). [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 03:04, November 20, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Conservative_of_the_Year_2022&amp;diff=1903289</id>
		<title>Talk:Conservative of the Year 2022</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him.[https://www.axios.com/2022/04/15/elon-musk-aspergers-syndrome] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Well, he's made [[Pollyanna]]...er, [[AOC]] look like the fool she is on Twitter on several occasions, so that's a start. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:18, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk quote: &amp;quot;I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.&amp;quot;[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elon-musk-takes-metaphorical-flamethrower-to-self-proclaimed-socialists] Musk is a libertarian. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Conservative_of_the_Year_2022&amp;diff=1903287</id>
		<title>Talk:Conservative of the Year 2022</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: /* Elon Musk */&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's/autism so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person).[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk quote: &amp;quot;I'm somewhere in the middle, socially liberal and fiscally conservative.&amp;quot;[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/elon-musk-takes-metaphorical-flamethrower-to-self-proclaimed-socialists] Musk is a libertarian. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:16, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's/autism so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
[https://people.com/movies/elon-musk-and-amber-heard-relationship-timeline/ Amber Heard and Elon Musk had a romantic relationship and a picture is provided.] Amber Heard is a liberal bisexual.[https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/women/amber-heard-bisexual-sxsw-family-religion-johnny-depp-tasya-van-ree-a8820366.html] Musk has been divorced three times (Two times with the same person.[https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/2845514/elon-musk-three-marriages-tesla-spacex-billionaire/][https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddShlUX60EI] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:14, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Talk:Conservative of the Year 2022</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know you're not giving us misinformation? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:57, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::I cited RT.com and a right-winger. But if you want to believe it is misinformation, go right ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Elon Musk knows technology and is an innovator. But he also has Asperger's/autism so perhaps being the owner of a social media company is not the best fit for him. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 23:06, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<updated>2022-11-20T03:57:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had the very liberal Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>MarkLM8</name></author>
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::In November 6, 2022, the corporate cancer of the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers.[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] &lt;br /&gt;
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RT.com: &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://www.rt.com/business/565982-twitter-confirms-staff-layoffs/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:A $44 billion net loss carry forward when he sells Twitter for scrap would pretty much guarantee the world's richest man being tax-free for life. And the IRS would have difficulty proving it was sham investment. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Give Peace a chance'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:50, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I still think that Musk should remain on the list for the following reasons: (1) He announced he voted for a Republican (Mayra Flores) for the first time; (2) He encouraged his massive following to vote Republican; and (3) He unblocked Donald Trump.--[[User:TheNewRight|TheNewRight]] ([[User talk:TheNewRight|talk]]) 21:30, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::He is an agnostic libertarian who has been divorced three times. He also had Amber Heard as a girlfriend. He is not a conservative. But he is a very hardworking and a job creator. He is also for free speech to some degree. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:::But in November 6, 2022, the problem of censorship remains and it is probably due to not wanting to lose corporate advertisers. &amp;quot;Social media platform Twitter has made good on its warnings and slashed 50% of its workforce, the company’s head of safety and integrity Yoel Roth announced in a tweet on Saturday. “Yesterday’s reduction in force affected approximately 15% of our Trust &amp;amp; Safety organization (as opposed to approximately 50% cuts company-wide), with our front-line moderation staff experiencing the least impact,” he tweeted, emphasizing that the team responsible for monitoring and preventing misinformation and harmful content on the platform has remained largely intact. According to Roth, battling misinformation on the platform will remain a top priority for Twitter. The same goal was emphasized by the company’s new owner, billionaire Elon Musk, in his own tweet.&amp;quot;[https://voxday.net/2022/11/06/the-problem-remains/] [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 22:52, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;MarkLM8: Created page with &amp;quot;== Elon Musk ==  Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to ri...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Elon Musk ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Elon Musk is going to be somewhat/largely constrained by corporate advertisers. But there are alternatives to the major brands run by liberals beginning to rise  which [[Steve Turley]] recently commented on. See: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnjFXnEH41g The Parallel Economy Is EXPLODING]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, the world is turning into more a multipolar world so the USA/Western liberal corporations/governments are going to become powerful. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the day, maybe Elon Musk seriously harming Twitter financially may be the best thing that comes out of him taking over Twitter. Similarweb.com says Twitter is the 4rth most popular website in the world.[https://www.similarweb.com/website/twitter.com/#overview] But hopefully, it will somewhat increase free speech in the USA and lower the alliance between big tech and big government such as the Twitter blocking the Hunter Biden story shortly before the 2022 election. [[User:MarkLM8|MarkLM8]] ([[User talk:MarkLM8|talk]]) 19:37, November 19, 2022 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Creation</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Michelangelo creation-of-sun-and-moon.jpg|right|alt=Young earth creationism|thumb|250px|[[Michelangelo|Michelangelo's]] painting of the creation of the [[Sun]] and [[Moon]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Creation''' refers either to that which has been created, e.g. [[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#16:15|Mark 16:15]], “Preach the Gospel to the whole creation,” or to the moment or process by which [[God]] created, e.g. [[Genesis]] is the creation account.  This article deals with the second meaning, according to [[Christian]] [[faith]].  According the Gallup organization, thirty-eight percent of Americans of Americans are [[creationism|creationists]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.gallup.com/poll/210956/belief-creationist-view-humans-new-low.aspx In US, Belief in Creationist View of Humans at New Low], Gallup organization&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In Europe, [[Switzerland]] has one of the highest rates of creationism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/06/switzerland-beacon-of-european.html Switzerland, a beacon of European creationism, has the world's most competitive economy. Also, America (a land of creationists) is expected to dominate the world economy for years. Why are evolutionists such slackers?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Creation science]] investigates how God brought the [[earth]] and [[universe]] into being. [[Young Earth Creationism]] demonstrates though multiple lines of evidence that the earth is [[Counterexamples to an Old Earth|approximately 6,000 years old]]. [[Old Earth Creationism]], like [[atheism|atheistic]] [[pseudoscience|evolutionary pseudoscience]], claims that the earth and universe are billions of years old. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Creation science|Creation scientists]] also demonstrate that the [[evolution|theory of evolution]] is in [[Counterexamples to Evolution|conflict with the evidence]] provided by the physical sciences and often cite secular scientific sources which agree with them on various points (for further details please see: [[evolution|theory of evolution]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creation.com/content/view/21&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Theistic evolution]]ists accept an old Earth and believe that evolution occurred, but that it was God’s means of creation.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Distinction between creation and Creator: God's transcendence==&lt;br /&gt;
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''see also'' [[Existence]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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''Main article:'' [[Transcendence]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The first verse of the Bible distinguishes God from the heaven and the earth.  The theological discussion of this distinction falls under the named topic of ''[[transcendence]]'', and the key philosophical concept with regard to God and creation is the two ''categories of existence'' (with regard to ''causes'', or rather ''sources'', of being): ''a se''—from itself and ''ab alio''—from another.  That is, God's existence is ''from God's self'' while creation's existence is ''from another''.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Famous Creationists==&lt;br /&gt;
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The late Dr. [[Henry Morris]] was the founder of the [[Institute for Creation Research]] (ICR), who coined the term “[[creation science]]” and began the modern creation science movement.  He was a scientist and held a master's degree and a [[PhD]][[Category:Creationism]][[Category:Christianity]] in hydraulic engineering from the [[University of Minnesota]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Duanegishpic.jpg|thumb|175px|right|Dr. Duane Gish]]&lt;br /&gt;
Dr. [[Duane Gish]], now retired, was a scientist ([[chemistry]]), a member of ICR, and a prolific debater for the Young Earth creationist cause.&lt;br /&gt;
Dr. [[Henry Morris]] said of Gish, “at least in our judgment and that of most in the audiences, he always wins.” &lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[Carl Wieland]] with [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]] is a scientist (chemistry), [[chess]] champion, and Young Earth creationist, who works for [[Creation Ministries International]] in [[Australia]].&lt;br /&gt;
He has written a number of books refuting evolutionary arguments and various theological arguments that try and accommodate evolution or an old Earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Ken Ham]] is a Young Earth creationist, a founder of the American branch of [[Answers in Genesis]], and prime mover of the Petersburg, Kentucky [[Creation Museum]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[Hugh Ross]] is a scientist (astronomy), a progressive creationist, and founder of [[Reasons to Believe]].&lt;br /&gt;
He considers nature to be the 67th book of the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Creation in Non-Christian Religions==&lt;br /&gt;
Most [[religion]]s of the world have their own versions of creation, some of which are similar to Christian beliefs and some of which are very different. The following discussions are presented in chronological order from older religions to more recent religions such as [[Islam]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Creation in Judaism===&lt;br /&gt;
The teachings of [[Judaism]] are based on Genesis, as in Christianity; however, significant [[liberal]] Jewish authorities also believe in the [[theory of evolution]], and that this theory is not incompatible with biblical accounts of creation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Creation, Evolution, and Intelligent Design.&amp;quot; Rabbinical Council of America. December 27, 2005.  http://www.rabbis.org/news/article.cfm?id=100635&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Creation in Hinduism===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Hindus]] believe that [[Brahma]], one of their three principal [[deity|deities]], created the universe, while [[Vishnu]] is the preserver of the universe.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Beliefs (Hinduism).&amp;quot; BBC. July 31, 2003. https://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/hinduism/beliefs/intro_1.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hinduism has its own form of evolution, and is generally considered to be compatible with the current &amp;quot;scientific&amp;quot; theory of evolution.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moorty, J.S.R.L.Narayana. &amp;quot;Science and Spirituality: Any Points of Contact?&amp;quot; 1995. http://www.well.com/user/jct/science.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Source of the Universe in Buddhism===&lt;br /&gt;
The Buddhist [[concept]]ion of the &amp;quot;source&amp;quot;, substratum, &amp;quot;[[womb]]&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;[[matrix]]&amp;quot; of the universe is referred to by the [[Sanskrit]] term &amp;quot;Garbha&amp;quot; as seen in one of the three Sanskrit words for the &amp;quot;[[ultimate]]&amp;quot;: 1. &amp;quot;Dharmakaya&amp;quot;, 2.  &amp;quot;Tathagata Garbha&amp;quot; and 3. &amp;quot;Dharma Dhatu&amp;quot;. These three words are all represented by the word &amp;quot;[[Dharma#2. Dharmakaya - Tathagata Garbha - Dharma Dhatu as Source of the Universe|Dharma]]&amp;quot;.  These are the [[ultimate]] [[reality]] that one realizes at [[enlightenment]]. These three Sanskrit words (especially &amp;quot;Dharmakaya&amp;quot;) is the closest concept that [[Mahayana]] Buddhism has that fairly closely resembles the [[Judaism|Judeo]]-[[Christian]] &amp;quot;[[creator]] [[God]]&amp;quot; although it is not accepted by [[Theravada]] Buddhists and is not well known among most common Buddhists who are neither serious scholars nor practitioners of the religion. This is why both many non-Buddhists and [[liberal]] beginner &amp;quot;Buddhists in name only&amp;quot; (see [[RINO]]) especially in America, misunderstand Buddhism thinking it denies the existence of God or a primary [[causation|causative]] being of the [[universe]]. Those who suggest this misconception have not studied Buddhist esoteric [[Sutra]] teachings on these three terms &amp;quot;Dharmakaya&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;Tathagata Garbha&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;Dharma Dhatu&amp;quot;. These terms imply timeless, [[eternal]]ity, [[omniscience]], [[omnipotence]], [[omnipresence]], inscrutability and [[immutability]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Creation in Islam===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Muslims]] attribute creation of the universe to [[Allah]]. The [[Qur'an]] does not have one cohesive story of creation, but it does say that the Earth and the rest of the universe were created over six &amp;quot;days,&amp;quot; which may not be the same length of time as a modern day.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;The Origin of Life - an Islamic Perspective. Islam for Today. Accessed March 6, 2011.&amp;quot; http://www.islamfortoday.com/emerick16.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Young-Earth creationism is wholly absent in the Muslim world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hameed, Salman. &amp;quot;Bracing for Islamic Creationism.&amp;quot; December 12, 2008. Science Magazine, Vol. 322 pp. 1637-1638. http://helios.hampshire.edu/~sahCS/Hameed-Science-Creationism.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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===Creation in Less Common Religions===&lt;br /&gt;
Versions of creation in ancient, indigenous, Eastern [[shamanic]], and relatively obscure religions are often referred to as &amp;quot;creation stories&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;creation myths.&amp;quot; (Note: in this usage, the word &amp;quot;myth&amp;quot; does not necessarily imply that the story is untrue, but that it is a traditional or legendary story.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/myth&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) Here are some examples:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Creation Myths&amp;quot; http://www.magictails.com/creationlinks.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Creation Stories from around the World&amp;quot; http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/CS/CSIndex.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Babylonians]] believed that the heavens, Earth, and non-human life were created by Marduk, the four-eared, four-eyed giant who became ruler of the gods after defeating an army of [[dragon]]s and [[monster]]s. These things were created from the body of Tiamat, who was a descendent of the water gods like Marduk, and who ruled the defeated army of dragons and monsters. Human life was created by Ea, god of the rivers, and Nintu, the birth-goddess, out of [[clay]] from the Earth and [[blood]] and spittle from other gods.&lt;br /&gt;
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* According to [[Hopi]] [[Native Americans]], the Creator, Taiowa, and his &amp;quot;nephew,&amp;quot; Sotuknang, created the finite with four separate acts of creaton. 1) Gathering [[matter]] to create nine solid worlds. 2) Gathering [[water]]s to create seas. 3) Gathering [[air]] to make winds and breezes. 4) Creating life, starting with Spider Woman, who created all other life forms.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Native [[Hawaii]]ans believe that life forms of the sea, air, and land were created from the unions of various entites of darkness and half-darkness. Humanity came about through the union of La'ila'i (the first woman), Ki'i (the first man), and Kane (a god).&lt;br /&gt;
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* The [[Mayans]] believed that everything was created by Tepu and Gucamatz. Whatever they thought about came into being. Advanced beings were created so that the creators could be [[praise]]d. Advanced beings were first made of clay, then wood, but these did not work so they were wiped out in a [[flood]]. New beings were formed with the help of Mountain Lion, [[Coyote]], [[Parrot]], and Crow.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are many other creation stories that are much longer and more complex.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Creationists in the world==&lt;br /&gt;
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As described in a 2011 IPSOS &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=10670&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; study.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{| class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
! &lt;br /&gt;
! Creationist&lt;br /&gt;
! Evolutionist&lt;br /&gt;
! Not sure&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Saudi Arabia]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 75%&lt;br /&gt;
| 7%&lt;br /&gt;
| 18%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Turkey]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 60%&lt;br /&gt;
| 19%&lt;br /&gt;
| 20%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Indonesia]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 57%&lt;br /&gt;
| 11%&lt;br /&gt;
| 32%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[South Africa]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 56%&lt;br /&gt;
| 18%&lt;br /&gt;
| 26%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Brazil]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 47%&lt;br /&gt;
| 22%&lt;br /&gt;
| 31%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''[[USA]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
| '''40%'''&lt;br /&gt;
| '''28%'''&lt;br /&gt;
| '''32%'''&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Russia]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 34%&lt;br /&gt;
| 26%&lt;br /&gt;
| 40%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[India]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 33%&lt;br /&gt;
| 39%&lt;br /&gt;
| 28%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Mexico]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 32%&lt;br /&gt;
| 34%&lt;br /&gt;
| 34%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Argentina]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 26%&lt;br /&gt;
| 37%&lt;br /&gt;
| 38%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Poland]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 25%&lt;br /&gt;
| 38%&lt;br /&gt;
| 37%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[South Korea]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 24%&lt;br /&gt;
| 41%&lt;br /&gt;
| 35%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Canada]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 22%&lt;br /&gt;
| 45%&lt;br /&gt;
| 33%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Italy]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 21%&lt;br /&gt;
| 40%&lt;br /&gt;
| 39%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Australia]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 15%&lt;br /&gt;
| 51%&lt;br /&gt;
| 34%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Hungary]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 13%&lt;br /&gt;
| 55%&lt;br /&gt;
| 33%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Germany]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 12%&lt;br /&gt;
| 65%&lt;br /&gt;
| 23%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[United Kingdom]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 12%&lt;br /&gt;
| 55%&lt;br /&gt;
| 34%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[China]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 11%&lt;br /&gt;
| 64%&lt;br /&gt;
| 25%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Spain]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 11%&lt;br /&gt;
| 53%&lt;br /&gt;
| 37%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Japan]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 10%&lt;br /&gt;
| 60%&lt;br /&gt;
| 30%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Sweden]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 10%&lt;br /&gt;
| 68%&lt;br /&gt;
| 21%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[France]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 09%&lt;br /&gt;
| 55%&lt;br /&gt;
| 36%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Belgium]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 08%&lt;br /&gt;
| 61%&lt;br /&gt;
| 31%&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
| '''Total'''&lt;br /&gt;
| '''28%'''&lt;br /&gt;
| '''41%'''&lt;br /&gt;
| '''31%'''&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Europe's rejection of biblical Christianity, which accepts biblical creationism, explains why Europe is such a mess at this time (see also: [[Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Biblical creation magazines and journals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Biblical creation journals]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some prominent biblical creation magazines and journals are given below:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Creation magazine]]''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Journal of Creation]]'' - Peer reviewed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Creation Research Society Quarterly Journal]]'' - peer reviewed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Creationism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Creation vs. Evolution Videos]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: Sharing your Christian/creationist videos on the internet]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist Creationism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Creation vs evolution essays]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dharma#2. Dharmakaya - Tathagata Garbha - Dharma Dhatu as Source of the Universe|Buddhist Creator Source of the Universe]] in [[Esoteric]] [[Mahayana]] [[Buddhism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://answersingenesis.org/creation/ Creation] by [[Answers in Genesis]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://associationforcreation.org/ The International Association For Creation]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creationnetwork.org/ The Creation Network]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://visitcreation.org/ The Big Map of Creation]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://creation.com/ Creation Ministries International]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creationrevolution.com/ Creation Revolution]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Creation vs. evolution}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Creation]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Rev. Dr. Robert Stuart MacArthur.JPG|thumb|right|200px|The Rev. Dr. [[Robert Stuart MacArthur]] was an early proponent of atheism being a causal factor for suicide.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/misc/religion_suicide.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/12/2303&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9507E2DC1131E033A25754C1A96F9C94659ED7CF NY Times, September 17, 1894, ATHEISM A CAUSE OF SUICIDE.; Dr. MacArthur Preaches on the Sin and Cowardice of Self-Destruction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and suicide]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
On March 8, 2013, Damon Linker wrote in ''The Week'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|If [[atheism]] is true, it is far from being good news. Learning that we're alone in the [[universe]], that no one hears or answers our prayers, that humanity is entirely the product of random events, that we have no more intrinsic dignity than non-human and even non-animate clumps of matter, that we face certain annihilation in death, that our sufferings are ultimately pointless, that our lives and loves do not at all matter in a larger sense, that those who commit horrific evils and elude human punishment get away with their crimes scot free — all of this (and much more) is utterly tragic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://theweek.com/article/index/241108/where-are-the-honest-atheists Where are the honest atheists?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although [[Bertrand Russell]] was an [[agnosticism|agnostic]], he had favorable views of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Russell, Bertrand (1947) &amp;quot;Am I An Atheist Or An Agnostic?&amp;quot;[http://www.luminary.us/russell/atheist_agnostic.html] Most online sources say &amp;quot;by which one prove,&amp;quot; probably a mistake.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Bertrand Russell wrote in 1903 about [[entropy]] and the universe:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|That man is the product of causes that had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of [[atom]]s; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve individual life beyond the grave; that all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the [[solar system]], and that the whole temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins- all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding dispair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely built.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/pessimism/entropy.html Entropy and heat death]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In a letter to Lowes Dickinson, Bertrand Russell wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|We stand on the shores of an ocean, crying to the night and the emptiness; sometimes a voice answers out of the darkness.  But it is a voice of one drowning; and in a moment the silence returns” (Bertrand Russell, Autobiography, p. 287 as quoted by Leroy Koopman, “Famous Atheists Give Their Testimonies,” Moody Monthly, Nov. 1975, p. 124.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guidelines.org/commentaries/atheism-and-the-despair-of-hope/#sthash.deoxNoqK.dpuf Atheism and the despair of hope]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Billcraig_czvx.jpg‎‎|thumb|150px|left|[[William Lane Craig]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] [[William Lane Craig]] wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|For example, the outspoken atheist and [[Nobel Prize]]–winning physicist Steven Weinberg, at the close of his much-acclaimed book ''The First Three Minutes'', writes,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It is almost irresistible for humans to believe that we have some special relation to the universe, that human life is not just a more-or-less farcical outcome of a chain of accidents reaching back to the first three minutes, but that somehow we were built in from the beginning.… It is very hard to realize that this all is just a tiny part of an overwhelmingly hostile universe. It is even harder to realize that this present universe has evolved from an unspeakably unfamiliar early condition, and faces a future extinction of endless cold or intolerable heat. The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some consolation in the research itself. Men and women are not content to comfort themselves with tales of gods and giants, or to confine their thoughts to the daily affairs of life; they also build telescopes and satellites and accelerators, and sit at their desks for endless hours working out the meaning of the data they gather. The effort to understand the universe is one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of farce, and gives it some of the grace of tragedy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There’s something strange about Weinberg’s moving description of the human predicament: Tragedy is not a neutral term. It expresses an evaluation of a situation. Weinberg evidently sees a life devoted to scientific pursuits as truly meaningful, and therefore it’s tragic that such a noble pursuit should be extinguished. But why, given atheism, should the pursuit of science be any different from slouching about doing nothing? Since there is no objective purpose to human life, none of our pursuits has any objective significance, however important and dear they may seem to us subjectively. They’re no more significant than shuffling deck chairs on the [[Titanic]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.cbn.com/special/apologetics/articles/practical-impossibility-of-atheism.aspx The Practical Impossibility of Atheism] by William Lane Craig&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The atheist Derek Beres claimed: &amp;quot;We’re the product of millions of years of [[evolution]]. Most species are extinct, as humans will eventually be.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/the-arrogance-of-atheism The Arrogance of Atheism?] by Derek Beres&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and death]] and [[Atheism and meaninglessness]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In December 2003, the University of Warwick reported: &amp;quot;Dr. Stephen Joseph, from the University of Warwick, said: &amp;quot;Religious people seem to have a greater purpose in life, which is why they are happier. Looking at the research evidence, it seems that those who celebrate the Christian meaning of [[Christmas]] are on the whole likely to be happier.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/A/20037338.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information please see: [[Atheism and suicide]] and [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and alcoholism|Atheism and alcohol abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist infighting making the atheist community unappealing to many ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The significant amount of unpleasant personalities within atheism and the resulting amount of atheist infighting has made atheist community unattractive to people who are looking for a sense of community and/or a common cause (see: [[Atheist factions]] and [[Views on atheists]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100230985/how-atheists-became-the-most-colossally-smug-and-annoying-people-on-the-planet/ Brendan O'Neill, ''The Telegraph, How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet'',  August 14th, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/01/22/is-atheism-a-religion/atheism-cannot-replace-religion Atheism cannot replace religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheists, motivation, depression and dopamine levels in the brain ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and motivation]] and [[Atheism and inspiration]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to ''Scientific American'': &amp;quot;Research also suggests that a religious brain exhibits higher levels of [[dopamine]], a hormone associated with increased attention and motivation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/askthebrains/ Ask the Brains, Scientific American, Dec 23, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and motivation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information, please see: [[Atheism and motivation#Atheism, depression, suicide and dopamine levels in the brain|Atheism, depression, suicide and dopamine levels in the brain]] and [[Atheism and depression]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism contrasted with Christianity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Unattractiveness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The American Christian Todd Strandberg said of atheism: &amp;quot;The ranks of atheists have always [[Atheist Population|been small]]... The key problem with atheism is that it lacks a strong 'selling point'&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.raptureready.com/rr-atheism.html Atheism: The cult of death]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Christians maintain that the benefits of Christianity totally outweigh the benefits of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For example, Bible believing Christians point out that the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] is more depressed than the Christian population and that atheists will ultimately wind up in [[hell]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Unlike atheism which merely offers vanity and unrelenting despair, [[Christianity]] offers an accurate view of the universe and man's place in it. For more information, please see: [[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]] and [[Christian joy, atheist despair and the good news of Christianity]] and [[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Recommended book ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*''The Case for Utter Hopelessness: Why Atheism Leads to Unyielding Despair'' by Austin C Brown, 2017, ISBN-10: 1547010622&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism, agnosticism and pessimism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Decline of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Morale of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and irrationality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Unattractiveness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist worldview]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist worldview, nature and futility]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and death]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ex-Christians, self-esteem and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Second law of thermodynamics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Genetic entropy]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Other:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Essay:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: Will atheism ever disappear?|Will atheism ever disappear?]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://creation.com/suicidal-atheist-converts-to-christ A suicidal atheist converts to Christ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.oocities.org/athens/delphi/8449/atheism.html Atheism and Death: Why the atheist must face death with despair] By Dustin Shramek&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://jwwartick.com/2011/01/03/atheism-meaningless/ Atheism’s Universe is Meaningless and Valueless]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/atheism-a-philosophy-without-hope Atheism: A philosophy without hope]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?] - video&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Atheism and despair:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv3TFg9SJb4 Atheism: Unyielding Despair] - video&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Sociology]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Rev. Dr. Robert Stuart MacArthur.JPG|thumb|right|200px|The Rev. Dr. [[Robert Stuart MacArthur]] was an early proponent of atheism being a causal factor for suicide.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/misc/religion_suicide.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/161/12/2303&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9507E2DC1131E033A25754C1A96F9C94659ED7CF NY Times, September 17, 1894, ATHEISM A CAUSE OF SUICIDE.; Dr. MacArthur Preaches on the Sin and Cowardice of Self-Destruction]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and suicide]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
On March 8, 2013, Damon Linker wrote in ''The Week'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|If [[atheism]] is true, it is far from being good news. Learning that we're alone in the [[universe]], that no one hears or answers our prayers, that humanity is entirely the product of random events, that we have no more intrinsic dignity than non-human and even non-animate clumps of matter, that we face certain annihilation in death, that our sufferings are ultimately pointless, that our lives and loves do not at all matter in a larger sense, that those who commit horrific evils and elude human punishment get away with their crimes scot free — all of this (and much more) is utterly tragic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://theweek.com/article/index/241108/where-are-the-honest-atheists Where are the honest atheists?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although [[Bertrand Russell]] was an [[agnosticism|agnostic]], he had favorable views of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Russell, Bertrand (1947) &amp;quot;Am I An Atheist Or An Agnostic?&amp;quot;[http://www.luminary.us/russell/atheist_agnostic.html] Most online sources say &amp;quot;by which one prove,&amp;quot; probably a mistake.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Bertrand Russell wrote in 1903 about [[entropy]] and the universe:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|That man is the product of causes that had no prevision of the end they were achieving; that his origin, his growth, his hopes and fears, his loves and his beliefs, are but the outcome of accidental collocations of [[atom]]s; that no fire, no heroism, no intensity of thought and feeling, can preserve individual life beyond the grave; that all the labors of the ages, all the devotion, all the inspiration, all the noonday brightness of human genius, are destined to extinction in the vast death of the [[solar system]], and that the whole temple of Man's achievement must inevitably be buried beneath the debris of a universe in ruins- all these things, if not quite beyond dispute, are yet so nearly certain that no philosophy which rejects them can hope to stand.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Only within the scaffolding of these truths, only on the firm foundation of unyielding dispair, can the soul's habitation henceforth be safely built.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.alamut.com/subj/ideologies/pessimism/entropy.html Entropy and heat death]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In a letter to Lowes Dickinson, Bertrand Russell wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|We stand on the shores of an ocean, crying to the night and the emptiness; sometimes a voice answers out of the darkness.  But it is a voice of one drowning; and in a moment the silence returns” (Bertrand Russell, Autobiography, p. 287 as quoted by Leroy Koopman, “Famous Atheists Give Their Testimonies,” Moody Monthly, Nov. 1975, p. 124.) &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.guidelines.org/commentaries/atheism-and-the-despair-of-hope/#sthash.deoxNoqK.dpuf Atheism and the despair of hope]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Billcraig_czvx.jpg‎‎|thumb|150px|left|[[William Lane Craig]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Christian apologetics|Christian apologist]] [[William Lane Craig]] wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|For example, the outspoken atheist and [[Nobel Prize]]–winning physicist Steven Weinberg, at the close of his much-acclaimed book ''The First Three Minutes'', writes,&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:It is almost irresistible for humans to believe that we have some special relation to the universe, that human life is not just a more-or-less farcical outcome of a chain of accidents reaching back to the first three minutes, but that somehow we were built in from the beginning.… It is very hard to realize that this all is just a tiny part of an overwhelmingly hostile universe. It is even harder to realize that this present universe has evolved from an unspeakably unfamiliar early condition, and faces a future extinction of endless cold or intolerable heat. The more the universe seems comprehensible, the more it also seems pointless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
:But if there is no solace in the fruits of our research, there is at least some consolation in the research itself. Men and women are not content to comfort themselves with tales of gods and giants, or to confine their thoughts to the daily affairs of life; they also build telescopes and satellites and accelerators, and sit at their desks for endless hours working out the meaning of the data they gather. The effort to understand the universe is one of the very few things that lifts human life a little above the level of farce, and gives it some of the grace of tragedy.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There’s something strange about Weinberg’s moving description of the human predicament: Tragedy is not a neutral term. It expresses an evaluation of a situation. Weinberg evidently sees a life devoted to scientific pursuits as truly meaningful, and therefore it’s tragic that such a noble pursuit should be extinguished. But why, given atheism, should the pursuit of science be any different from slouching about doing nothing? Since there is no objective purpose to human life, none of our pursuits has any objective significance, however important and dear they may seem to us subjectively. They’re no more significant than shuffling deck chairs on the [[Titanic]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.cbn.com/special/apologetics/articles/practical-impossibility-of-atheism.aspx The Practical Impossibility of Atheism] by William Lane Craig&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The atheist Derek Beres claimed: &amp;quot;We’re the product of millions of years of [[evolution]]. Most species are extinct, as humans will eventually be.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://bigthink.com/21st-century-spirituality/the-arrogance-of-atheism The Arrogance of Atheism?] by Derek Beres&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and death]] and [[Atheism and meaninglessness]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In December 2003, the University of Warwick reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Dr. Stephen Joseph, from the University of Warwick, said: &amp;quot;Religious people seem to have a greater purpose in life, which is why they are happier. Looking at the research evidence, it seems that those who celebrate the Christian meaning of [[Christmas]] are on the whole likely to be happier.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/A/20037338.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information please see: [[Atheism and suicide]] and [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and alcoholism|Atheism and alcohol abuse]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheist infighting making the atheist community unappealing to many ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The significant amount of unpleasant personalities within atheism and the resulting amount of atheist infighting has made atheist community unattractive to people who are looking for a sense of community and/or a common cause (see: [[Atheist factions]] and [[Views on atheists]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100230985/how-atheists-became-the-most-colossally-smug-and-annoying-people-on-the-planet/ Brendan O'Neill, ''The Telegraph, How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet'',  August 14th, 2013]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/01/22/is-atheism-a-religion/atheism-cannot-replace-religion Atheism cannot replace religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheists, motivation, depression and dopamine levels in the brain ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and motivation]] and [[Atheism and inspiration]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to ''Scientific American'': &amp;quot;Research also suggests that a religious brain exhibits higher levels of [[dopamine]], a hormone associated with increased attention and motivation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/askthebrains/ Ask the Brains, Scientific American, Dec 23, 2011]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and motivation]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For more information, please see: [[Atheism and motivation#Atheism, depression, suicide and dopamine levels in the brain|Atheism, depression, suicide and dopamine levels in the brain]] and [[Atheism and depression]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism contrasted with Christianity ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Unattractiveness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The American Christian Todd Strandberg said of atheism: &amp;quot;The ranks of atheists have always [[Atheist Population|been small]]... The key problem with atheism is that it lacks a strong 'selling point'&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.raptureready.com/rr-atheism.html Atheism: The cult of death]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Christians maintain that the benefits of Christianity totally outweigh the benefits of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For example, Bible believing Christians point out that the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] is more depressed than the Christian population and that atheists will ultimately wind up in [[hell]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Unlike atheism which merely offers vanity and unrelenting despair, [[Christianity]] offers an accurate view of the universe and man's place in it. For more information, please see: [[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]] and [[Christian joy, atheist despair and the good news of Christianity]] and [[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recommended book ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*''The Case for Utter Hopelessness: Why Atheism Leads to Unyielding Despair'' by Austin C Brown, 2017, ISBN-10: 1547010622&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism, agnosticism and pessimism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Decline of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Morale of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and irrationality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Unattractiveness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist worldview]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist worldview, nature and futility]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and death]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ex-Christians, self-esteem and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Second law of thermodynamics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Genetic entropy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Other:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian apologetics|Evidence for Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Essay:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Essay: Will atheism ever disappear?|Will atheism ever disappear?]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://creation.com/suicidal-atheist-converts-to-christ A suicidal atheist converts to Christ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.oocities.org/athens/delphi/8449/atheism.html Atheism and Death: Why the atheist must face death with despair] By Dustin Shramek&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://jwwartick.com/2011/01/03/atheism-meaningless/ Atheism’s Universe is Meaningless and Valueless]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/atheism-a-philosophy-without-hope Atheism: A philosophy without hope]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWbFtplpY48 And the benefits of atheism are what again?] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheism and despair:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jv3TFg9SJb4 Atheism: Unyielding Despair] - video&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Beggar.jpg|thumb|right|200px|A child in [[Thailand]] where the nontheistic form of [[Buddhism]] called the Theravada school of Buddhism is prevalent. In 2010, the Pew Research Forum indicated that 93.2% of the people of Thailand were Buddhists.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pew2010&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.pewforum.org/files/2012/12/globalReligion-tables.pdf Pew Research Center - Global Religious Landscape 2010 - religious composition by country].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Per capita]] [[atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] in America give significantly less to charity than [[theism|theists]] even when church giving is not counted for theists (See: [[Atheism and charity|Atheism and uncharitableness]]). ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Historically,  the [[secular left]] has been dominant within the [[Atheism|atheist]] population, (see: [[Atheism and politics]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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However, the atheist Adam Lee noted:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Here are ...the biggest mistakes the [[atheist movement]] has made, and what we can do better to fix them...&lt;br /&gt;
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Take diversity and inclusion seriously. The atheist movement's roots in mostly white, mostly male, mostly upper-class people show all too clearly in its tendency to parade the same faces over and over, on the boards of influential secular organizations, on the speaker lineups of major atheist conferences and in the news stories that get written about the movement. Too often, an all-white or all-male slate is seen as the unremarkable norm.&lt;br /&gt;
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Pay more attention to issues of justice. Atheist organizations have traditionally focused on a narrowly defined set of causes: countering religious apologetics, debunking supernatural claims, defending separation of church and state...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.alternet.org/belief/4-things-atheist-movement-has-done-badly-and-how-do-them-better 4 Things the Atheist Movement Has Done Badly (and How to Do Them Better)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and women]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Desecularization]] in China is partly occurring due to its association with equality, individual freedom and democracy (see: [[Asian atheism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/encounter/the-rise-of-christianity-in-asia/5934564 The rise of Christianity in Asia] by Masako Fukui, Australian Broadcasting Corporation's website RN&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  See also: [[Growth of Christianity in China]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to atheist [[Sikivu Hutchinson]], there is a &amp;quot;vacuum in secular [[social justice]] leadership&amp;quot; and that is why she and other skeptics founded the People of Color Beyond Faith network.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;chrisstedman.religionnews.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[Atheism and social justice: Sikivu Hutchinson on the first People of Color Beyond Faith conference - See more at: http://chrisstedman.religionnews.com/2014/10/09/atheism-social-justice-sikivu-hutchinson-first-people-color-beyond-faith-conference  Atheism and social justice: Sikivu Hutchinson on the first People of Color Beyond Faith conference], Chris Stedman, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson says about the network, &amp;quot;We’re not only interested in working with nonbelievers and secularists of color, but also with progressive faith organizations that share a similar vision.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;chrisstedman.religionnews.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and liberal Christianity alliances]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014,  Sikivu Hutchinson wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that atheist organizations generally focus on church/state separation and [[creationism]] issues and not the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;washingtonpost.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about] by Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, Washington Post June 16, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do offer significant help to poor African-Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;washingtonpost.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and charity|Atheism and uncharitableness]] &lt;br /&gt;
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== Social justice and progressive values according to leading progressive/leftist websites ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also: [[Atheist hypocrisy]], [[Liberal|liberal values]], [[liberal hypocrisy]] and [[social justice warrior]].''&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Flag of France.png|thumbnail|200px|right|Since 2010, the last time the survey was carried out, one million more French people are leading solitary lives, with an estimated five million or 12 percent of the nation’s population aged over 18 now living without any social relations through family, friends, work or their community.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thelocal.fr/20130626/growing-nuber-of-french-living-solitary-lives More and more French living lonely lives], The Local FR, Published: 26 Jun 2013 15:44 GMT+02:00&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and loneliness]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to leading [[progressivism|progressive]]/leftists websites, progressive values include: freedom; opportunity; responsibility; cooperation/community; caring and responsibility, carried out with strength; protection/fairness; honesty and open communication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/03/22/1761431/what-it-means-to-be-a-progressive-a-manifesto/ What It Means To Be A Progressive: A Manifesto], Thinkprogress.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/09/658017/-What-are-Progressive-Values What are Progressive Values], Dailykos.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  These practices are often seen as being conducive to [[social justice]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] and the [[secular left]] has not lived up to the above cited standards (see: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]). See also: [[Liberal|Liberal values]] and [[liberal hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and slavery/forced labor ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and slavery]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and forced labor]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and lack of cooperation/community ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist population lacks cooperation/community, is known for engaging in bitter quarrels and is deeply divided (see: [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheist movement]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist population also has significant racial/gender issues (see: [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and women]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, atheistic countries often have significant problems with loneliness (See: [[Atheism and loneliness]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Irreligious Britain and low social mobility ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Irreligious Britain and low social mobility]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A Eurobarometer poll in 2010 reported that 37% of UK citizens &amp;quot;believed there is a God&amp;quot;, 33% believe there is &amp;quot;some sort of spirit or life force&amp;quot; and 25% answered &amp;quot;I don't believe there is any sort of spirit, God or life force&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_341_en.pdf Special Eurobarometer, biotechnology, p. 204&amp;quot;]. Fieldwork: Jan-Feb 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In recent years, various members of Britain's atheists/agnostics, most notably [[Richard Dawkins]] and [[Christopher Hitchens]], have engaged in aggressive atheism evangelism efforts.  See: [[New Atheism]] and [[British atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''The Daily Mail'' reported about Britain's influential broadcaster the BBC:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The BBC employs more atheists and non-believers than Christians, an internal ‘diversity’ survey has found.&lt;br /&gt;
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The new research has been seized on by critics who accuse the Corporation of bias against Christianity and marginalising the faith in its output.&lt;br /&gt;
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The survey found that just 22.5 per cent of all staff professed to be Christians.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2069649/Christians-minority-biased-BBC.html Christians a minority at 'biased' BBC where staff are more likely to be atheists or non-believers]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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''The Guardian'' reported in 2012, &amp;quot;Britain has some of the lowest social mobility in the developed world - the OECD figures show our earnings in the UK are more likely to reflect our fathers' than any other country.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/may/22/social-mobility-data-charts Social mobility: the charts that shame Britain]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Social Darwinism|l1=Britain and the history of social Darwinism}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and lack of empathy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and charity]] and [[Atheism and apathy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the progressive values of caring/protection, the American atheist population gives less to charity [[per capita]] than Christians even when church giving is not counted. &lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014, the African-American atheist woman [[Sikivu Hutchinson]] wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that atheist organizations generally focus on church/state separation and creationism issues and not the concerns the less affluent African American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;washingtonpost.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do focus on helping poor African-Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;washingtonpost.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, the historical record shows that atheists have often been uncaring and atheists have engaged in barbarous/uncivilized behavior (see: [[Atheism and Mass Murder|Atheism and mass murder]] and [[Mass rape during the occupation of Germany|Mass rape of German women by the Soviet army]] and [[Atheism and cannibalism]] and [[Atheism and bestiality]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, atheists rarely focuses on the issue of [[social Darwinism]] in their communities past and often takes offense when biblical [[creationism|creationists]] bring this matter up.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/herbert-spencer Herbert Spencer and social Darwinism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/darwinism-and-world-war-one Darwinism and World War I]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Irreligion and domestic violence ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Atheism and women]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Cycle.gif|thumbnail|205px|right|Research suggests that irreligiousity is a causal factor for domestic violence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;doi: 10.1177/1077801207308259 [http://vaw.sagepub.com/content/13/11/1094.abstract ''Violence Against Women'', ''Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence'',]  November 2007 vol. 13 no. 11 1094-1112&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The abstract for the 2007 article in the journal ''Violence Against Women'' entitled ''Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence'' indicated:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The authors explored the relationship between religious involvement and intimate partner violence by analyzing data from the first wave of the National Survey of Families and Households. They found that: (a) religious involvement is correlated with reduced levels of domestic violence; (b) levels of domestic violence vary by race/ethnicity; (c) the effects of religious involvement on domestic violence vary by race/ethnicity; and (d) religious involvement, specifically church attendance, protects against domestic violence, and this protective effect is stronger for African American men and women and for Hispanic men, groups that, for a variety of reasons, experience elevated risk for this type of violence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&amp;quot;&amp;gt;doi: 10.1177/1077801207308259 [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17951587 ''Violence Against Women'', ''Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence''],  November 2007 vol. 13 no. 11 1094-1112&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}  &lt;br /&gt;
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Also, a quote from the journal article ''Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Another line of thought suggests that religious people may be less likely to perpe- trate domestic violence (Fergusson, Horwood, Kershaw, &amp;amp; Shannon, 1986). A 1999 study of U.S. couples found that both men and women who attend religious services regularly are less likely to commit acts of domestic violence than those who attend rarely or not at all (Ellison et al., 1999). A follow-up study identified three pathways through which religious involvement may operate; namely, increasing levels of social integration and social support, reducing the likelihood of alcohol or substance abuse, and decreasing the risk of psychological problems (Ellison &amp;amp; Anderson, 2001). However, even after considering such indirect effects of religion through the use of sta- tistical controls, that study found that regular religious involvement still had a protec- tive effect against the perpetration of domestic violence by both men and women (Ellison &amp;amp; Anderson, 2001). In addition, that study showed that evidence of such pro- tective religious effects persisted regardless of whether domestic violence was measured using data from self reports or partner reports, which makes it difficult to attribute these observed religious effects to simple social desirability or other response bias.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ncbi.nlm.nih.gov&amp;quot;&amp;gt;doi: 10.1177/1077801207308259 [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17951587 ''Violence Against Women'', ''Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence''],  November 2007 vol. 13 no. 11 1094-1112&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Secular Europe and domestic violence]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and rape]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Reason Rally related incident involving David Silverman and Richard Dawkins ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Feminist quotes about Richard Dawkins]]&lt;br /&gt;
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After the [[Elevatorgate]] scandal, which initially involved [[Richard Dawkins]] and [[Rebecca Watson]], there was a lot of additional acrimony among atheists.  Jacques Rousseau wrote in the ''Daily Maverick'': &amp;quot;Elevatorgate..has resulted in three weeks of infighting in the [[Atheist Population|secular community]]. Some might observe that we indulge in these squabbles fairly frequently.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2011-07-13-sticks-and-stones-may-break-my-bones-but-words-can-rip-my-soul Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can rip my soul]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheist factions]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Post-Elevatorgate more attention was given to [[atheist conferences]] and peoples behavior at atheist conferences among atheists.  For example, Post Elevatorgate, atheist conferences frequently have anti-sexual harassment policies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelnugent.com/2013/01/03/thunderf00ts-inflammatory-video-of-misleading-personal-attacks-on-atheist-feminists-is-not-helpful/ Thunderf00t’s inflammatory video of misleading personal attacks on atheist feminists is not helpful] by [[Michael Nugent]] on January 3, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Research on atheist conferences]]&lt;br /&gt;
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However, the incident mentioned below reflects that prominent white men, still exert considerable influence within the atheist movement despite the fact that atheists tend to [[Atheism and politics|lean politically left]] and that the left purports to strongly support gender and racial diversity.&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:David Silverman.JPG|thumbnail|left|150px|[[David Silverman]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
An article by Sarah posted at Skepchick about a conversation between [[Richard Dawkins]] and [[David Silverman]], the president of the [[American Atheists]] organization, which took place during the planning phrase of the [[Reason Rally]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Richard was standing behind the podium, and he asked Dave something along the lines of, “What exactly is the Reason Rally?” Dave started explaining it, and as he did, someone who was waiting in the line outside opened the door to peek inside and we could all hear a lot of noise. I rushed up the aisle and made frantic “shut the door” gestures at the people peeking inside, and they did. As I walked the ten feet back, I couldn’t hear everything Dave was saying, but I heard the name “Rebecca Watson.” Richard suddenly had a very angry look on his face and I heard him almost shout, “No, absolutely not! If she’s going to be there, I won’t be there. I don’t want her speaking.” and then Dave immediately replied, “You’re absolutely right, we’ll take her off the roster. It’s done.” Richard huffed for a moment, Dave continued to placate him, and then he made the video.&lt;br /&gt;
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I was crushed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://skepchick.org/2013/09/my-time-with-richard-dawkins-or-why-you-should-never-meet-your-idols/ My Time With Richard Dawkins (Or, Why You Should Never Meet Your Idols)] by Sarah at [[Skepchick]], September 5, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist nonprofit scandals ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] and  ''[[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science#Embezzlement allegation|Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science - Embezzlement allegation]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Two recent atheist nonprofit scandals which received some publicity were the organizations [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] and the We Are Atheism organization.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/15/an-update-on-we-are-atheism/ An Update on We Are Atheism] by Hemant Mehta, September 15, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, David Gorski at Scienceblogs indicated that many atheist/skeptic organizations are poorly run from a financial standpoint.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information, please see: [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists falling short of the progressive value of freedom ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as the values of freedom, militant atheists continue to deny basic freedoms to people (See: [[Militant atheism]] and [[Atheism and intolerance]] and [[Atheism and forced labor]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists and deception ==&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as honesty, atheists have a poor record in this area as well (see: [[Atheist indoctrination]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Rebuke of PZ Myers by the atheist Michael Nugent relative to the area of social justice ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Michael Nugent.jpg|thumbnail|left|175px|[[Michael Nugent]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[PZ Myers and social justice]] &lt;br /&gt;
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The Irish atheist [[Michael Nugent]] wrote to [[PZ Myers]] in September 2014:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Some of the content of your blog is hurtful and unjust in itself, it also undermines the effectiveness of attempts to promote compassion and empathy and social justice, and it is additionally harmful because of your prominence as a perceived spokesperson for organised atheism...&lt;br /&gt;
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PZ, is this really how you want to be remembered? Having defended you against unjust attacks from others, I am now asking you to take a long hard look at what you are doing, consider apologising to people who you have unjustly hurt and defamed, and start focusing on actually promoting compassion and empathy and social justice if those ideas are important to you.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelnugent.com/2014/09/19/the-lbj-legend-and-my-email-to-pz-myers/ The LBJ legend and my email to PZ Myers] by Michael Nugent on September 19, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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On April 2015, Atheist Ireland announced, &amp;quot;Atheist Ireland is publicly dissociating itself from the hurtful and dehumanising, hateful and violent, unjust and defamatory rhetoric of the atheist blogger PZ Myers.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.michaelnugent.com/2015/04/07/atheist-ireland-dissociates-from-pz-myers/  Atheist Ireland publicly dissociates itself from the harmful and hateful rhetoric of PZ Myers] by Michael Nugent, April 7, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The atheist biologist Massimo Pigliucci said of Myers, &amp;quot;one cannot conclude this parade without mentioning P.Z. Myers, who has risen to fame because of a blog where the level of nastiness (both by the host and by his readers) is rarely matched anywhere else on the Internet...&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/piggliucci20150513 Reflections on the skeptic and atheist movements] By Massimo Pigliucci ''Scientia Salon'', Posted: May 13, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Due to its notability requirements, the website [[Wikipedia]] (which was founded by an atheist and agnostic), does not make mention of any specific accomplishments PZ Myers may have achieved in the area of social justice. Wikipedia does mention the social justice accomplishments of Christians such as [[William Wilberforce]], [[Harriet Beecher Stowe]] and others.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hypocrisy of secular humanists ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]] and [[Secular humanism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Laurence Krauss.JPG|thumbnail|right|175px|In response to the question, &amp;quot;Why is [[incest]] wrong?&amp;quot;, the atheist [[Lawrence Krauss]] said, &amp;quot;It's not clear to me that it is wrong.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lawrence Krauss on incest&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp7dRpWIdBo Lawrence Krauss on incest]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and incest]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Secular humanism]] is [[humanism]] that is atheistic in nature. It is a philosophy which holds that human beings are the most important figures, and that social problems are best solved without the involvement of religious doctrine. People who are secular humanists purport to focus on ways to better themselves and human beings as a whole. The American Humanist Association's motto on the main page of their website is &amp;quot;good without a God&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://americanhumanist.org/ American Humanist Association website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Lawrence Krauss: Humanist of the Year in 2015 and his statement on incest ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2015, Arizona State University professor [[Lawrence Krauss]] was named the 2015 Humanist of the Year by the American Humanists Association.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://freethoughtblogs.com/butterfliesandwheels/2015/02/humanist-of-the-year/ Humanist of the year]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In response to the question, &amp;quot;Why is [[incest]] wrong?&amp;quot;, Krauss said, &amp;quot;It's not clear to me that it is wrong.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lawrence Krauss on incest&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and incest]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== PZ Myers: Humanist of the Year in 2011 and his inappropriate previous behavior ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The American Humanist Association defines humanism thusly: &amp;quot;Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead meaningful, ethical lives capable of adding to the greater good of humanity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Definition of humanism&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://americanhumanist.org/Humanism/Definitions_of_Humanism Definition of humanism], American Humanist Assocation&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The American Humanist Association's slogan is &amp;quot;Good without God&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Definition of humanism&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2011, the atheist [[PZ Myers]] won the International Humanist Award from the International Humanist and Ethical Union.&amp;lt;ref name=IHEU&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=IHEU Awards for 2011|url=http://iheu.org/story/iheu-awards-2011|publisher=Internation Humanist and Ethical Union|accessdate=16 August 2013}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Prior to that in 2009, Myers won the Humanist of the Year award from the American Humanist Association.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://americanhumanist.org/AHA/Humanists_of_the_Year American Humanist Association: Humanist of the year]. American Humanist Association.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2008, Myers rejoiced at the death of a Brazilian Roman Catholic priest who died a premature accidental death and then Myers fantasized about personally killing other priests.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/08/13/p-z-myers-is-surprise-unmoved-by-suicide-of-wealthy-white-robin-williams/ P.Z. Myers is (Surprise!) Unmoved By Suicide of “Wealthy White” Robin Williams], Friendly Atheist blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/04/21/it-must-have-been-an-act-of-go/ It must have been an act of god], Posted by PZ Myers on April 21, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  (See also: [[PZ Myers and social justice]])&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bitter infighting within the secular humanism faction of atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheism and bitterness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Paul Kurtz]] is an [[atheism|atheist]] [[philosophy|philosopher]] who formerly taught at the State University of NY at Buffalo. Dr. Paul Kurtz founded the modern secular humanism movement which is a form of philosophical skepticism. In addition, he also founded the organization the [[Center for Inquiry]] which focuses on promoting secular humanism. In 2009, Dr. Kurtz lost his leadership position at the Center for Inquiry.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;godless&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.buffalonews.com/2010/04/18/1023513/redirecting-a-long-life-of-godlessness.html Redirecting a Long Life of Godlessness]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Paul Kurtz.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|[[Paul Kurtz]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Currently, there is an ideological struggle within the modern secular humanism faction of atheism concerning how militant the movement should be which primarily arose post [[New Atheism]] movement which is a more militant form of atheism. (see also: [[Militant atheism]]).  [[Paul Kurtz]] was against the secular humanism movement becoming more militant but some newer followers of secular humanism disagreed with Kurtz at the height of the New Atheism movement.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;godless&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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==== Kurtz's ouster from the Center of Inquiry leadership position ====&lt;br /&gt;
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On October 10, 2010, a contentious exchange between members of the [[Secular Humanism]] faction of atheism founded by Paul Kurtz and the atheist Ron Lindsay was caught on tape.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hniP6Ivr5g Video - Part one] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22xTou2Wgc Video - Part 2]&lt;br /&gt;
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During the exchange Ron Lindsay said that infighting has been occurring within the Secular Humanism faction of atheism for years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22xTou2WgcPaul Kurtz and Ron Lindsay Argument Audio Part Two]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A Paul Kurtz supporter said that Kurtz was censored by Ron Lindsay and his supporters and Kurtz was driven out of the organization that he founded (Center for Inquiry).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U22xTou2Wgc Kurtz and Ron Lindsay Argument Audio Part Two]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Lindsay claimed, however, that Kurtz voluntarily resigned from the organization he founded and Kurtz was never censored. Furthermore, Lindsay said that Kurtz's idea of a &amp;quot;planetary federation&amp;quot; was impractical.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;  Kurtz countered that he was never allowed to publish why he resigned from the organization and that he was censored by the organization that he founded.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Kurtz described the events surrounding the loss of his leadership position as a &amp;quot;shattering blow&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;godless&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism plus, Jen McCreight and  Richard Carrier ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Atheism plus]] is a faction of atheism which holds to a [[liberal]]/[[progressivism|progressive]] political agenda. It developed out of the atheist and political ideology of [[Freethought]] blogs and was partly a response to the [[New Atheism]] and to the [[Elevatorgate]] scandal. &lt;br /&gt;
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In October 2014, the popular YouTube atheist [[Thunderf00t]] commented on how [[Jen McCreight]], the founder of the atheist feminist movement Atheism plus abandoned her movement within two weeks. Thunderf00t also commented on how [[Richard Carrier]] &amp;quot;the intellectual artillery&amp;quot; of the movement, quit promoting the movement within a month.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inqcLXNlEes Atheism+ Stream: How SJWs pushed their way into Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Richard Carrier.jpg|thumbnail|150px|left|[[Richard Carrier]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
=== Richard Carrier, adultery, divorce and polyamory ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Richard Carrier, adultery, divorce and polyamory]] and [[Atheism, polyamory and other immoral relationships]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist [[Richard Carrier]] divorced his wife and now practices polyamory.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;freethoughtblogs.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/6737 Coming Out Poly + A Change of Life Venue]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Before divorcing his wife, he was involved in adulterous affairs.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;freethoughtblogs.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The Christtian apologist Jason Engwar at the Christian blog Triablogue wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Richard Carrier has [http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/6737 a post up announcing that he's &amp;quot;polyamorous&amp;quot;], which he calls his &amp;quot;sexual orientation&amp;quot;. He's been adulterous in his relationship with his wife, and they decided to get a divorce after having tried polyamory for a while. In the thread, he refers to how he has &amp;quot;sympathy for people who cheat on their spouses&amp;quot;, how he's come across &amp;quot;many&amp;quot; polyamorists, and how he's become more convinced that &amp;quot;monogamy is the actual problem&amp;quot;. So far, most of the responses at his blog are positive.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://triablogue.blogspot.com/2015/02/atheism-adultery-polyamory-and-shifting.html Atheism, Adultery, Polyamory, And Shifting Morals]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://deeperwaters.wordpress.com/2015/02/20/along-came-poly/ Along Came Poly], Christian apologist Nick Peters on Richard Carrier's adulterous affairs, adultery and polyamory&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.examiner.com/article/atheist-richard-carrier-is-a-polyamorous-dog Atheist Richard Carrier is a polyamorous dog] by [[Ken Ammi]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist hospitals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science#Embezzlement allegation|Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science - Embezzlement allegation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Richard Dawkins' family fortune and the slave trade]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist population and immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[The Orbit]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/2017/03/20/social-justice-atheist-tries-to-explain-why-intersectionality-is-not-a-cult/ Social Justice Atheist Tries to Explain Why Intersectionality is not a Cult]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Beggar in Cambodia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Most atheists likely live in [[East Asia]] (see: [[Asian atheism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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A beggar in [[Cambodia]]. In Cambodia, the vast majority of the population adheres to a nontheistic form of [[Buddhism]] called the Theravada school of Buddhism. &lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Burke Campbell&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Burke, Daniel, Religion News Service (May 13, 2009). [http://web.archive.org/web/20130310113024/http://www.pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx &amp;quot;Religious people make better citizens, study says&amp;quot;]. Pew Research Forum. Archived on March 10, 2013 by Internet Archive.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*Campbell, David and Putnam, Robert (November 14, 2010).  [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm &amp;quot;Religious people are 'better neighbors'&amp;quot;]. USA Today website.  Retrieved on July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Concerning the issue of '''atheism and charity''', charitable giving by [[atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the [[Barna Group]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx Religious people make better citizens, study says] by Pew Research Forum, May 13, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm Religious people are 'better neighbors'] by ''USA Today'', 11/14/2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Brooks wrote in ''Policy Review'' regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the [[Roper Center for Public Opinion Research]]):&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brooks, Arthur C., [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3647/is_200310/ai_n9340592/Religious faith and charitable giving] ''Policy Review'',  Oct-Dec 2003, p.2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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ABC News reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. &lt;br /&gt;
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Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Stossel, John and Kendall, Kristina [http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&amp;amp;page=2 Who Gives and Who Doesn't?] ABC News, November 28, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Where is the nearest atheist orphanage.png|left|300px|thumbnail|A graphic from the website Answers for Atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://answersforatheists.com/ Answers for Atheists]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2009, Pew Research Forum reported that a comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that atheistic [[evolution]]ary thinking has engendered [[social darwinism]] and given that [[Atheism and morality|the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology]], the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not surprising.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist Hemant Mehta on fundraising from fellow nonbelievers ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Hemant Mehta.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|[[Hemant Mehta]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Secular humanism]] is a [[Schools of atheist thought|type of atheism]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Foundation Beyond Belief is a charitable foundation created to focus on &amp;quot;[[Humanism|humanist]] generosity and compassion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://foundationbeyondbelief.org/inside-fbb/about/ Foundation Beyond Belief]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist [[Hemant Mehta]] said about raising money from fellow nonbelievers:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Meanwhile, I’ve had one hell of a time convincing people to give to the Foundation Beyond Belief — and I help lead that organization.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/01/08/a-few-thoughts-about-fundraising/ A Few Thoughts About Fundraising]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lower atheist fundraising and desecularization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The 21st century is expected to be a century of global [[desecularization]] and religious organizations significantly outperforming atheist organizations in fundraising will contribute to this matter (see: [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]] and [[Causes of desecularization]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Women are less likely to be atheists. Women donate more  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Surveys throughout the world and other data indicate that women are less inclined to be atheists (See: [[Atheism and women]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Khan, Razib (November 18, 2010).  [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/sex-differences-in-global-atheism-part-n/ &amp;quot;Gene expression; Sex differences in global atheism, part N&amp;quot;].  Discover magazine website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Carter, Stephen L. (March 27, 2015).  [http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-27/the-atheism-gap &amp;quot;The atheism gap&amp;quot;].  ''BloombergView''.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://blog.oup.com/2014/09/atheism-feminism/#sthash.0yIBbelF.dpuf Atheism and Feminism], ''Oxford University Press'' blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PZ&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Myers, P.Z. (June 29, 2010).  [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/29/the-woman-problem/ &amp;quot;The woman problem&amp;quot;]. Pharyngula [blog].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''Fortune'' magazine women donate more to charitable causes than men: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“Women are very involved in charitable giving,” explained Nancy Heiser, vice president of wealth management at UBS. “The reasons are simple: Women are living longer, making more money and may be inheriting twice—once from their parents and again if they outlive their spouses.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Research echoes Heiser’s sentiment. According to WPI’s 2010 Women Give study, American households headed by single females give 57% more than those headed by single males.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and lower empathy ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Feed My Starving Children recipients.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|African children who received Manna Packs of rice from the Christian relief organization Feed My Starving Children.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Barna Group]] found that even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and narcissism]] and [[Atheism and sadism]] and [[Atheism and mass murder]] &lt;br /&gt;
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In 2007 the Baptist Press reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...a pollster at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, found that adults who profess a belief in God are significantly more likely than atheists to say that forgiveness, patience, generosity and a concern for others are &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot; In fact, the poll found that on 11 of 12 values, there was a double-digit gap between theists and atheists, with theists more likely to label each value &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The survey by sociologist and pollster Reginald Bibby examined the beliefs of 1,600 Canadians, 82 percent who said they believed in &amp;quot;God or a higher power&amp;quot; and 18 percent who said they did not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foust, Michael (October 23, 2007).  [http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=26675 &amp;quot;Poll:  Atheists less likely to 'do good'&amp;quot;] Baptist Press.  Retrieved on July 20, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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From a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]], moral and spiritual perspective, atheists have an inability to satisfactorily explain the existence of [[love]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-love/ How do atheists define love?] by Dr. Taylor Marshall&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://atheistforum.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/what-is-love-how-materialist-atheism-fails-to-have-a-satisfactory-answer/ What is love? how materialist atheism fails to have a satisfactory answer], July 9, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  See also: [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and social justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists with social contacts with Christians give more to charity than other atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheists adopting theistic morality]] and [[Protestant cultural legacies]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[William Lane Craig]] points out that the social science research indicates that atheists who have family/social contacts with religious people give more to charity than atheists who do not have such an influence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Craig, citing research published by author Arthur C. Brooks, points out that atheists raised in religious households are twice as likely to give to charity than those raised in nonreligious households.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== American atheist organizations focus on church/state issues - poor largely ignored ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014, the African-American atheist woman [[Sikivu Hutchinson]] wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that white atheists organizations in the United States generally focus on church/state separation and [[creationism]] issues and not the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hutchinson, Sikivu (June 16, 2014).  [http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ &amp;quot;Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about&amp;quot;].  Washington Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do focus on helping poor African Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist activist Lee Moore: Donations to atheist organizations are down due to infighting within the atheist movement ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2017, the atheist activist Lee Moore declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|If you look at the major atheist groups right now, like the national groups, the ones that are doing the real activist work... They are not bringing in the kind of donations they used to.  Most of them are starved for cash. They're downsizing left and right. Because people aren't just giving like they used to. And I talked to a lot of the major donors out there and they said, &amp;quot;Well, we're kind of tired of seeing the atheist community just fight amongst itself and not really get anything done. We'd rather not give money if we don't think it's going to go somewhere.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG6LKUbOdk Lee Moore and Steve Shives Talk About the Future of the Atheist Movement],&lt;br /&gt;
- video quote comes 21 minutes and 13 seconds into the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheist movement and major donors]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scott Simon of National Public Radio on organized atheism and its small measure of charitable work ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon of [[National Public Radio]] (NPR): &amp;quot;I've covered a lot of wars, famines and tragedies. And it seems to me, truly, every theater of suffering I've ever been to, there is a dauntless nun, priest, clergy or religious person who was working very selflessly and bravely there for the good of human beings. And I don't run into organized groups of atheists who do this.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.npr.org/2017/05/27/530337283/richard-dawkins-on-terrorism-and-religion Richard Dawkins On Terrorism And Religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[New Atheism|New atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]]: &amp;quot;Perhaps there is not enough of them.&amp;quot;...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.npr.org/2017/05/27/530337283/richard-dawkins-on-terrorism-and-religion Richard Dawkins On Terrorism And Religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon, NPR: &amp;quot;But I do wonder, am I just not seeing the world correctly to see large numbers of well-motivated atheists lending their lives to trying to better the world? Or they're - if I might put it this way, are they more concerned about just being right intellectually?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.npr.org/2017/05/27/530337283/richard-dawkins-on-terrorism-and-religion Richard Dawkins On Terrorism And Religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Western atheists have not done a significant amount of outreach to poor countries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Compassion International and Tanzania.jpg|thumbnail|left|200px|A photograph of [[Tanzania]]n children taken by a blogger of the Christian relief organization Compassion International. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism and relief outreaches to third-world countries, often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The atheist population in the [[Western World]] has not had significant outreaches to spread atheism outside the Western World nor have atheist organizations done a significant amount of relief efforts to poor countries.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism/outreaches often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Historically, Christians have made great evangelism efforts to reach every people group across the earth. They have also engaged in a lot of Christian relief work to help lessen poverty. In 2005, there were four times as many non-[[Western World]] Christians as there were Western World Christians.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30077 Is Christianity taking over the planet?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The current atheist population mostly resides in East Asia (particularly China) and in secular Europe/Australia among whites.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/23/a-surprising-map-of-where-the-worlds-atheists-live/ A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live], By Max Fisher and Caitlin Dewey, ''Washington Post'', May 23, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Translation of Darwin's Origin of the Species vs. the Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Since [[World War II]] a majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the [[evolution]]ary position which employs methodological naturalism have been [[Atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] (see also: [[Causes of evolutionary belief]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Don Batten, [http://creation.com/a-whos-who-of-evolutionists A ''Who’s Who'' of evolutionists] ''Creation'' 20(1):32, December 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jonathan Sarfati]], Ph.D.,F.M., [http://www.creation.com/content/view/3830 ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 1, Facts and Bias]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   [[Charles Darwin]]'s evolutionary book ''The Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life'' has been translated into 35 languages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/valentinedarwin/vanwyhe Darwin in translation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Bible]] has been translated into 518 languages and 2,798 languages have at least some portion of the Bible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.audiobiblesdownload.com/bible-translations/ Bible translations]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Social darwinism}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inside Philanthropy website commentary atheist philanthropy related to universities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the website ''Inside Philanthropy'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Universities lack the kind of entrenched atheist architecture—endowments, departments, conferences and the like—that religious studies departments have enjoyed for centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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What's more, there are several major funders who've put muscle behind religious scholarship on campus, such as the Lilly Endowment and the Templeton Foundation. But we've never seen a gift for related to aethism [sic] - either on a campus or elsewhere. Nor have our data gathering friends the Foundation Center, which reports exactly zero grants related to atheism in a database covers tens of foundations. (That said, some grants have gone to groups that put forth a &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; agenda.)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[Beyond Belief: As Americans Warm to Atheism, Will Donors Follow?] by Mike Scutari, ''Inside Philanthropy''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist nonprofit scandals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Two atheist nonprofit scandals which received some publicity were the organizations [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] and the [[We Are Atheism]] organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/15/an-update-on-we-are-atheism/ An Update on We Are Atheism] by Hemant Mehta, September 15, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=== Atheist non-profit scandals, lack of critical thinking and lack of due diligence ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and critical thinking]]&lt;br /&gt;
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People who think about donating priorities and perform due diligence are less likely to donate to organizations who engage in scandalous behavior. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Skepchick]] writer Heina Dadabhoy wrote about atheists and charitable giving:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|So many of us don’t [[Critical thinking|critically examine]] to what we pay attention and why, to whom we give our money and why, of what sort of news we keep abreast and why, about what we find out and why. We fail to recognize the disturbing patterns indicating structural injustices that emerge when we consider all the factors at hand and how these sorts of situations play out.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://skepchick.org/2014/01/fundraising/ Atheist Priorities in Fundraising] by Heina Dadabhoy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== David Gorski's complaint about atheist nonprofits ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Richard Dawkins photo.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|200px|right|The [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] had a scandal related to an embezzlement allegation.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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David Gorski at Scienceblogs wrote about atheist/skeptic organizations and financial mismanagement:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In any case, this makes me wonder: What is it about rationalist/skeptic groups that make them seemingly have such a hard time running their organizations well from a financial standpoint? After all, just a couple of months ago the [[Center for Inquiry]] (CFI) sent out letters desperately begging for more contributions. The reason was that CFI had one large benefactor whose yearly contribution funded approximately 20-25% of the yearly CFI budget. As clueless as I may be about finances, even I know that you don’t use such donations to run the operating expenses of an organization, because you can’t count on them from year to year and it’s too big a chunk. You use this money for special short-term projects and a rainy day fund. Not surprisingly, when this mysterious donor stopped donating earlier this year, suddently CFI was in deep doo-doo from a financial standpoint, prompting the desperate plea for donations and deep budget cuts. I realize that the down economy has played havoc with many nonprofit and charitable organizations, but these issues with skeptical organizations seem to go beyond just that.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See: [http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism, uncharitableness and suicide ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A number of studies have confirmed that there is an inverse relationship to doing volunteer work and depression.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/science-of-happiness/caring/caring-and-happiness-reviews/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has a higher suicide rate than the general population. (see: [[Atheism and suicide]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism, leftism, social justice/progressive values and hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Historically,  the [[secular left]] has been dominant within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and politics]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Progressive values according to leading progressive websites ===&lt;br /&gt;
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According to leading progressive/leftists websites, progressive values include: caring and responsibility, carried out with strength; freedom; opportunity; responsibility; cooperation/community; protection/fairness; and honesty and open communication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/03/22/1761431/what-it-means-to-be-a-progressive-a-manifesto/ What It Means To Be A Progressive: A Manifesto], Thinkprogress.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/09/658017/-What-are-Progressive-Values What are Progressive Values], Dailykos.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has fallen short of the above-mentioned values (See: [[Atheism and social justice]] and [[Atheist hypocrisy]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist population and immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Irreligious Britain and low social mobility]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Social Darwinism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://atheism-analyzed.blogspot.com/2011/05/atheist-charitable-giving.html Atheist charitable giving] by [[Atheism Analyzed]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Beggar in Cambodia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Most atheists likely live in [[East Asia]] (see: [[Asian atheism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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A beggar in [[Cambodia]]. In Cambodia, the vast majority of the population adheres to a nontheistic form of [[Buddhism]] called the Theravada school of Buddhism. &lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Burke Campbell&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Burke, Daniel, Religion News Service (May 13, 2009). [http://web.archive.org/web/20130310113024/http://www.pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx &amp;quot;Religious people make better citizens, study says&amp;quot;]. Pew Research Forum. Archived on March 10, 2013 by Internet Archive.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*Campbell, David and Putnam, Robert (November 14, 2010).  [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm &amp;quot;Religious people are 'better neighbors'&amp;quot;]. USA Today website.  Retrieved on July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Concerning the issue of '''atheism and charity''', charitable giving by [[atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the [[Barna Group]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx Religious people make better citizens, study says] by Pew Research Forum, May 13, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm Religious people are 'better neighbors'] by ''USA Today'', 11/14/2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Brooks wrote in ''Policy Review'' regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the [[Roper Center for Public Opinion Research]]):&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brooks, Arthur C., [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3647/is_200310/ai_n9340592/Religious faith and charitable giving] ''Policy Review'',  Oct-Dec 2003, p.2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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ABC News reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. &lt;br /&gt;
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Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money: four times as much. And Arthur Brooks told me that giving goes beyond their own religious organization: &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Stossel, John and Kendall, Kristina [http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&amp;amp;page=2 Who Gives and Who Doesn't?] ABC News, November 28, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Where is the nearest atheist orphanage.png|left|300px|thumbnail|A graphic from the website Answers for Atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://answersforatheists.com/ Answers for Atheists]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2009, Pew Research Forum reported that a comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that atheistic [[evolution]]ary thinking has engendered [[social darwinism]] and given that [[Atheism and morality|the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology]], the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not surprising.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist Hemant Mehta on fundraising from fellow nonbelievers ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Hemant Mehta.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|[[Hemant Mehta]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Secular humanism]] is a [[Schools of atheist thought|type of atheism]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Foundation Beyond Belief is a charitable foundation created to focus on &amp;quot;[[Humanism|humanist]] generosity and compassion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://foundationbeyondbelief.org/inside-fbb/about/ Foundation Beyond Belief]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist [[Hemant Mehta]] said about raising money from fellow nonbelievers:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Meanwhile, I’ve had one hell of a time convincing people to give to the Foundation Beyond Belief — and I help lead that organization.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2014/01/08/a-few-thoughts-about-fundraising/ A Few Thoughts About Fundraising]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lower atheist fundraising and desecularization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The 21st century is expected to be a century of global [[desecularization]] and religious organizations significantly outperforming atheist organizations in fundraising will contribute to this matter (see: [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]] and [[Causes of desecularization]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Women are less likely to be atheists. Women donate more  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Surveys throughout the world and other data indicate that women are less inclined to be atheists (See: [[Atheism and women]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Khan, Razib (November 18, 2010).  [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/sex-differences-in-global-atheism-part-n/ &amp;quot;Gene expression; Sex differences in global atheism, part N&amp;quot;].  Discover magazine website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Carter, Stephen L. (March 27, 2015).  [http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-27/the-atheism-gap &amp;quot;The atheism gap&amp;quot;].  ''BloombergView''.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://blog.oup.com/2014/09/atheism-feminism/#sthash.0yIBbelF.dpuf Atheism and Feminism], ''Oxford University Press'' blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PZ&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Myers, P.Z. (June 29, 2010).  [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/29/the-woman-problem/ &amp;quot;The woman problem&amp;quot;]. Pharyngula [blog].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''Fortune'' magazine women donate more to charitable causes than men: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“Women are very involved in charitable giving,” explained Nancy Heiser, vice president of wealth management at UBS. “The reasons are simple: Women are living longer, making more money and may be inheriting twice—once from their parents and again if they outlive their spouses.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Research echoes Heiser’s sentiment. According to WPI’s 2010 Women Give study, American households headed by single females give 57% more than those headed by single males.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist movement, women and a smaller base of major donors]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and lower empathy ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Feed My Starving Children recipients.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|African children who received Manna Packs of rice from the Christian relief organization Feed My Starving Children.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Barna Group]] found that even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and narcissism]] and [[Atheism and sadism]] and [[Atheism and mass murder]] &lt;br /&gt;
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In 2007 the Baptist Press reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...a pollster at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, found that adults who profess a belief in God are significantly more likely than atheists to say that forgiveness, patience, generosity and a concern for others are &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot; In fact, the poll found that on 11 of 12 values, there was a double-digit gap between theists and atheists, with theists more likely to label each value &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The survey by sociologist and pollster Reginald Bibby examined the beliefs of 1,600 Canadians, 82 percent who said they believed in &amp;quot;God or a higher power&amp;quot; and 18 percent who said they did not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foust, Michael (October 23, 2007).  [http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=26675 &amp;quot;Poll:  Atheists less likely to 'do good'&amp;quot;] Baptist Press.  Retrieved on July 20, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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From a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]], moral and spiritual perspective, atheists have an inability to satisfactorily explain the existence of [[love]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-love/ How do atheists define love?] by Dr. Taylor Marshall&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://atheistforum.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/what-is-love-how-materialist-atheism-fails-to-have-a-satisfactory-answer/ What is love? how materialist atheism fails to have a satisfactory answer], July 9, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  See also: [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and social justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists with social contacts with Christians give more to charity than other atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheists adopting theistic morality]] and [[Protestant cultural legacies]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[William Lane Craig]] points out that the social science research indicates that atheists who have family/social contacts with religious people give more to charity than atheists who do not have such an influence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Craig, citing research published by author Arthur C. Brooks, points out that atheists raised in religious households are twice as likely to give to charity than those raised in nonreligious households.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== American atheist organizations focus on church/state issues - poor largely ignored ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014, the African-American atheist woman [[Sikivu Hutchinson]] wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that white atheists organizations in the United States generally focus on church/state separation and [[creationism]] issues and not the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hutchinson, Sikivu (June 16, 2014).  [http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ &amp;quot;Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about&amp;quot;].  Washington Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do focus on helping poor African Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist activist Lee Moore: Donations to atheist organizations are down due to infighting within the atheist movement ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2017, the atheist activist Lee Moore declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|If you look at the major atheist groups right now, like the national groups, the ones that are doing the real activist work... They are not bringing in the kind of donations they used to.  Most of them are starved for cash. They're downsizing left and right. Because people aren't just giving like they used to. And I talked to a lot of the major donors out there and they said, &amp;quot;Well, we're kind of tired of seeing the atheist community just fight amongst itself and not really get anything done. We'd rather not give money if we don't think it's going to go somewhere.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG6LKUbOdk Lee Moore and Steve Shives Talk About the Future of the Atheist Movement],&lt;br /&gt;
- video quote comes 21 minutes and 13 seconds into the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheist movement and major donors]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scott Simon of National Public Radio on organized atheism and its small measure of charitable work ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon of [[National Public Radio]] (NPR): &amp;quot;I have covered a lot of wars, famines and tragedies. And it seems to me, truly every theatre of suffering I have ever been to, there is a dauntless nun, priest, clergy or religious person, who is working very selflessly and bravery there for the good of human beings. But I don't run into [[Atheist movement|organized atheists]] who do this. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[New Atheism|New atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]]: &amp;quot;Perhaps there is not enough of them.&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon, NPR: &amp;quot;But I do wonder, am I just not seeing the world correctly to see large numbers of well-motivated atheists lending their lives to trying to better the world? Or they're - if I might put it this way, are they more concerned about just being right intellectually?&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.npr.org/2017/05/27/530337283/richard-dawkins-on-terrorism-and-religion Richard Dawkins On Terrorism And Religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Western atheists have not done a significant amount of outreach to poor countries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Compassion International and Tanzania.jpg|thumbnail|left|200px|A photograph of [[Tanzania]]n children taken by a blogger of the Christian relief organization Compassion International. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism and relief outreaches to third-world countries, often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The atheist population in the [[Western World]] has not had significant outreaches to spread atheism outside the Western World nor have atheist organizations done a significant amount of relief efforts to poor countries.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism/outreaches often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Historically, Christians have made great evangelism efforts to reach every people group across the earth. They have also engaged in a lot of Christian relief work to help lessen poverty. In 2005, there were four times as many non-[[Western World]] Christians as there were Western World Christians.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30077 Is Christianity taking over the planet?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The current atheist population mostly resides in East Asia (particularly China) and in secular Europe/Australia among whites.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/23/a-surprising-map-of-where-the-worlds-atheists-live/ A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live], By Max Fisher and Caitlin Dewey, ''Washington Post'', May 23, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Translation of Darwin's Origin of the Species vs. the Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Since [[World War II]] a majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the [[evolution]]ary position which employs methodological naturalism have been [[Atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] (see also: [[Causes of evolutionary belief]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Don Batten, [http://creation.com/a-whos-who-of-evolutionists A ''Who’s Who'' of evolutionists] ''Creation'' 20(1):32, December 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jonathan Sarfati]], Ph.D.,F.M., [http://www.creation.com/content/view/3830 ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 1, Facts and Bias]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   [[Charles Darwin]]'s evolutionary book ''The Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life'' has been translated into 35 languages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/valentinedarwin/vanwyhe Darwin in translation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Bible]] has been translated into 518 languages and 2,798 languages have at least some portion of the Bible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.audiobiblesdownload.com/bible-translations/ Bible translations]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Social darwinism}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inside Philanthropy website commentary atheist philanthropy related to universities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the website ''Inside Philanthropy'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Universities lack the kind of entrenched atheist architecture—endowments, departments, conferences and the like—that religious studies departments have enjoyed for centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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What's more, there are several major funders who've put muscle behind religious scholarship on campus, such as the Lilly Endowment and the Templeton Foundation. But we've never seen a gift for related to aethism [sic] - either on a campus or elsewhere. Nor have our data gathering friends the Foundation Center, which reports exactly zero grants related to atheism in a database covers tens of foundations. (That said, some grants have gone to groups that put forth a &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; agenda.)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[Beyond Belief: As Americans Warm to Atheism, Will Donors Follow?] by Mike Scutari, ''Inside Philanthropy''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist nonprofit scandals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Two atheist nonprofit scandals which received some publicity were the organizations [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] and the [[We Are Atheism]] organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/15/an-update-on-we-are-atheism/ An Update on We Are Atheism] by Hemant Mehta, September 15, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=== Atheist non-profit scandals, lack of critical thinking and lack of due diligence ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and critical thinking]]&lt;br /&gt;
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People who think about donating priorities and perform due diligence are less likely to donate to organizations who engage in scandalous behavior. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Skepchick]] writer Heina Dadabhoy wrote about atheists and charitable giving:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|So many of us don’t [[Critical thinking|critically examine]] to what we pay attention and why, to whom we give our money and why, of what sort of news we keep abreast and why, about what we find out and why. We fail to recognize the disturbing patterns indicating structural injustices that emerge when we consider all the factors at hand and how these sorts of situations play out.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://skepchick.org/2014/01/fundraising/ Atheist Priorities in Fundraising] by Heina Dadabhoy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== David Gorski's complaint about atheist nonprofits ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Richard Dawkins photo.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|200px|right|The [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] had a scandal related to an embezzlement allegation.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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David Gorski at Scienceblogs wrote about atheist/skeptic organizations and financial mismanagement:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In any case, this makes me wonder: What is it about rationalist/skeptic groups that make them seemingly have such a hard time running their organizations well from a financial standpoint? After all, just a couple of months ago the [[Center for Inquiry]] (CFI) sent out letters desperately begging for more contributions. The reason was that CFI had one large benefactor whose yearly contribution funded approximately 20-25% of the yearly CFI budget. As clueless as I may be about finances, even I know that you don’t use such donations to run the operating expenses of an organization, because you can’t count on them from year to year and it’s too big a chunk. You use this money for special short-term projects and a rainy day fund. Not surprisingly, when this mysterious donor stopped donating earlier this year, suddently CFI was in deep doo-doo from a financial standpoint, prompting the desperate plea for donations and deep budget cuts. I realize that the down economy has played havoc with many nonprofit and charitable organizations, but these issues with skeptical organizations seem to go beyond just that.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See: [http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism, uncharitableness and suicide ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A number of studies have confirmed that there is an inverse relationship to doing volunteer work and depression.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/science-of-happiness/caring/caring-and-happiness-reviews/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has a higher suicide rate than the general population. (see: [[Atheism and suicide]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism, leftism, social justice/progressive values and hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Historically,  the [[secular left]] has been dominant within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and politics]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Progressive values according to leading progressive websites ===&lt;br /&gt;
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According to leading progressive/leftists websites, progressive values include: caring and responsibility, carried out with strength; freedom; opportunity; responsibility; cooperation/community; protection/fairness; and honesty and open communication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/03/22/1761431/what-it-means-to-be-a-progressive-a-manifesto/ What It Means To Be A Progressive: A Manifesto], Thinkprogress.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/09/658017/-What-are-Progressive-Values What are Progressive Values], Dailykos.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has fallen short of the above-mentioned values (See: [[Atheism and social justice]] and [[Atheist hypocrisy]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist population and immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Irreligious Britain and low social mobility]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Social Darwinism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://atheism-analyzed.blogspot.com/2011/05/atheist-charitable-giving.html Atheist charitable giving] by [[Atheism Analyzed]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Beggar in Cambodia.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Most atheists likely live in [[East Asia]] (see: [[Asian atheism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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A beggar in [[Cambodia]]. In Cambodia, the vast majority of the population adheres to a nontheistic form of [[Buddhism]] called the Theravada school of Buddhism. &lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Burke Campbell&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Burke, Daniel, Religion News Service (May 13, 2009). [http://web.archive.org/web/20130310113024/http://www.pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx &amp;quot;Religious people make better citizens, study says&amp;quot;]. Pew Research Forum. Archived on March 10, 2013 by Internet Archive.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*Campbell, David and Putnam, Robert (November 14, 2010).  [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm &amp;quot;Religious people are 'better neighbors'&amp;quot;]. USA Today website.  Retrieved on July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Concerning the issue of '''atheism and charity''', charitable giving by [[atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the [[Barna Group]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx Religious people make better citizens, study says] by Pew Research Forum, May 13, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm Religious people are 'better neighbors'] by ''USA Today'', 11/14/2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Arthur C. Brooks wrote in ''Policy Review'' regarding data collected in the Social Capital Community Benchmark Survey (SCCBS) (data collected by in 2000 by researchers at universities throughout the United States and the [[Roper Center for Public Opinion Research]]):&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The differences in charity between secular and religious people are dramatic. Religious people are 25 percentage points more likely than secularists to donate money (91 percent to 66 percent) and 23 points more likely to volunteer time (67 percent to 44 percent). And, consistent with the findings of other writers, these data show that practicing a religion is more important than the actual religion itself in predicting charitable behavior. For example, among those who attend worship services regularly, 92 percent of Protestants give charitably, compared with 91 percent of Catholics, 91 percent of Jews, and 89 percent from other religions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brooks, Arthur C., [http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3647/is_200310/ai_n9340592/Religious faith and charitable giving] ''Policy Review'',  Oct-Dec 2003, p.2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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ABC News reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...the single biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable is their religious participation. &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Actually, the truth is that they're giving to more than their churches,&amp;quot; he says. &amp;quot;The religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly non-religious charities.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Stossel, John and Kendall, Kristina [http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Story?id=2682730&amp;amp;page=2 Who Gives and Who Doesn't?] ABC News, November 28, 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Where is the nearest atheist orphanage.png|left|300px|thumbnail|A graphic from the website Answers for Atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://answersforatheists.com/ Answers for Atheists]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2009, Pew Research Forum reported that a comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; The study revealed that forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Moreover, religious individuals are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pewforum.org&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;usatoday.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given that atheistic [[evolution]]ary thinking has engendered [[social darwinism]] and given that [[Atheism and morality|the proponents of atheism have no rational basis for morality in their ideology]], the immoral views that atheists often hold and the low per capita giving of American atheists is not surprising.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist Hemant Mehta on fundraising from fellow nonbelievers ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Hemant Mehta.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|[[Hemant Mehta]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Secular humanism]] is a [[Schools of atheist thought|type of atheism]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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Foundation Beyond Belief is a charitable foundation created to focus on &amp;quot;[[Humanism|humanist]] generosity and compassion.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://foundationbeyondbelief.org/inside-fbb/about/ Foundation Beyond Belief]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist [[Hemant Mehta]] said about raising money from fellow nonbelievers:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;quot;Meanwhile, I’ve had one hell of a time convincing people to give to the Foundation Beyond Belief — and I help lead that organization.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lower atheist fundraising and desecularization ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The 21st century is expected to be a century of global [[desecularization]] and religious organizations significantly outperforming atheist organizations in fundraising will contribute to this matter (see: [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]] and [[Causes of desecularization]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Women are less likely to be atheists. Women donate more  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Surveys throughout the world and other data indicate that women are less inclined to be atheists (See: [[Atheism and women]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Khan, Razib (November 18, 2010).  [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/sex-differences-in-global-atheism-part-n/ &amp;quot;Gene expression; Sex differences in global atheism, part N&amp;quot;].  Discover magazine website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Carter, Stephen L. (March 27, 2015).  [http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-27/the-atheism-gap &amp;quot;The atheism gap&amp;quot;].  ''BloombergView''.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://blog.oup.com/2014/09/atheism-feminism/#sthash.0yIBbelF.dpuf Atheism and Feminism], ''Oxford University Press'' blog&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PZ&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Myers, P.Z. (June 29, 2010).  [http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2010/06/29/the-woman-problem/ &amp;quot;The woman problem&amp;quot;]. Pharyngula [blog].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''Fortune'' magazine women donate more to charitable causes than men: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“Women are very involved in charitable giving,” explained Nancy Heiser, vice president of wealth management at UBS. “The reasons are simple: Women are living longer, making more money and may be inheriting twice—once from their parents and again if they outlive their spouses.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Research echoes Heiser’s sentiment. According to WPI’s 2010 Women Give study, American households headed by single females give 57% more than those headed by single males.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and lower empathy ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Feed My Starving Children recipients.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|African children who received Manna Packs of rice from the Christian relief organization Feed My Starving Children.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Barna Group]] found that even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;barna.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/12-faithspirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians Atheists and Agnostics Take Aim at Christians] ''The Barna Update'', 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2007 the Baptist Press reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|...a pollster at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada, found that adults who profess a belief in God are significantly more likely than atheists to say that forgiveness, patience, generosity and a concern for others are &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot; In fact, the poll found that on 11 of 12 values, there was a double-digit gap between theists and atheists, with theists more likely to label each value &amp;quot;very important.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The survey by sociologist and pollster Reginald Bibby examined the beliefs of 1,600 Canadians, 82 percent who said they believed in &amp;quot;God or a higher power&amp;quot; and 18 percent who said they did not.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Foust, Michael (October 23, 2007).  [http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=26675 &amp;quot;Poll:  Atheists less likely to 'do good'&amp;quot;] Baptist Press.  Retrieved on July 20, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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From a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]], moral and spiritual perspective, atheists have an inability to satisfactorily explain the existence of [[love]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-love/ How do atheists define love?] by Dr. Taylor Marshall&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://atheistforum.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/what-is-love-how-materialist-atheism-fails-to-have-a-satisfactory-answer/ What is love? how materialist atheism fails to have a satisfactory answer], July 9, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  See also: [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and social justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheists with social contacts with Christians give more to charity than other atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. [[William Lane Craig]] points out that the social science research indicates that atheists who have family/social contacts with religious people give more to charity than atheists who do not have such an influence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Craig, citing research published by author Arthur C. Brooks, points out that atheists raised in religious households are twice as likely to give to charity than those raised in nonreligious households.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== American atheist organizations focus on church/state issues - poor largely ignored ==&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014, the African-American atheist woman [[Sikivu Hutchinson]] wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that white atheists organizations in the United States generally focus on church/state separation and [[creationism]] issues and not the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hutchinson, Sikivu (June 16, 2014).  [http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ &amp;quot;Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about&amp;quot;].  Washington Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do focus on helping poor African Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist activist Lee Moore: Donations to atheist organizations are down due to infighting within the atheist movement ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2017, the atheist activist Lee Moore declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|If you look at the major atheist groups right now, like the national groups, the ones that are doing the real activist work... They are not bringing in the kind of donations they used to.  Most of them are starved for cash. They're downsizing left and right. Because people aren't just giving like they used to. And I talked to a lot of the major donors out there and they said, &amp;quot;Well, we're kind of tired of seeing the atheist community just fight amongst itself and not really get anything done. We'd rather not give money if we don't think it's going to go somewhere.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG6LKUbOdk Lee Moore and Steve Shives Talk About the Future of the Atheist Movement],&lt;br /&gt;
- video quote comes 21 minutes and 13 seconds into the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Scott Simon of National Public Radio on organized atheism and its small measure of charitable work ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon of [[National Public Radio]] (NPR): &amp;quot;I have covered a lot of wars, famines and tragedies. And it seems to me, truly every theatre of suffering I have ever been to, there is a dauntless nun, priest, clergy or religious person, who is working very selflessly and bravery there for the good of human beings. But I don't run into [[Atheist movement|organized atheists]] who do this. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[New Atheism|New atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]]: &amp;quot;Perhaps there is not enough of them.&amp;quot;...&lt;br /&gt;
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Scott Simon, NPR: &amp;quot;But I do wonder am I just not seeing the world correctly to see large numbers of well-motivated atheists lending their lives to trying to better the world... If I might put it this way, are they just more concerned about being right intellectually.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.npr.org/2017/05/27/530337283/richard-dawkins-on-terrorism-and-religion Richard Dawkins On Terrorism And Religion]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Western atheists have not done a significant amount of outreach to poor countries ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Compassion International and Tanzania.jpg|thumbnail|left|200px|A photograph of [[Tanzania]]n children taken by a blogger of the Christian relief organization Compassion International. &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism and relief outreaches to third-world countries, often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The atheist population in the [[Western World]] has not had significant outreaches to spread atheism outside the Western World nor have atheist organizations done a significant amount of relief efforts to poor countries.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Doing overseas evangelism/outreaches often requires significant hardships/persecution and Western atheists have been unwilling to endure such hardships in order to spread atheistic ideology (see: [[Atheism and hedonism]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Historically, Christians have made great evangelism efforts to reach every people group across the earth. They have also engaged in a lot of Christian relief work to help lessen poverty. In 2005, there were four times as many non-[[Western World]] Christians as there were Western World Christians.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=30077 Is Christianity taking over the planet?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The current atheist population mostly resides in East Asia (particularly China) and in secular Europe/Australia among whites.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/23/a-surprising-map-of-where-the-worlds-atheists-live/ A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live], By Max Fisher and Caitlin Dewey, ''Washington Post'', May 23, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Global atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Translation of Darwin's Origin of the Species vs. the Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Since [[World War II]] a majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the [[evolution]]ary position which employs methodological naturalism have been [[Atheism|atheists]] and [[agnosticism|agnostics]] (see also: [[Causes of evolutionary belief]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Don Batten, [http://creation.com/a-whos-who-of-evolutionists A ''Who’s Who'' of evolutionists] ''Creation'' 20(1):32, December 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jonathan Sarfati]], Ph.D.,F.M., [http://www.creation.com/content/view/3830 ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 1, Facts and Bias]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   [[Charles Darwin]]'s evolutionary book ''The Origin of the Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life'' has been translated into 35 languages.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.amphilsoc.org/library/valentinedarwin/vanwyhe Darwin in translation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Bible]] has been translated into 518 languages and 2,798 languages have at least some portion of the Bible.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.audiobiblesdownload.com/bible-translations/ Bible translations]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Inside Philanthropy website commentary atheist philanthropy related to universities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the website ''Inside Philanthropy'':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Universities lack the kind of entrenched atheist architecture—endowments, departments, conferences and the like—that religious studies departments have enjoyed for centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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What's more, there are several major funders who've put muscle behind religious scholarship on campus, such as the Lilly Endowment and the Templeton Foundation. But we've never seen a gift for related to aethism [sic] - either on a campus or elsewhere. Nor have our data gathering friends the Foundation Center, which reports exactly zero grants related to atheism in a database covers tens of foundations. (That said, some grants have gone to groups that put forth a &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; agenda.)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[Beyond Belief: As Americans Warm to Atheism, Will Donors Follow?] by Mike Scutari, ''Inside Philanthropy''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist nonprofit scandals ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Two atheist nonprofit scandals which received some publicity were the organizations [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] and the [[We Are Atheism]] organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/15/an-update-on-we-are-atheism/ An Update on We Are Atheism] by Hemant Mehta, September 15, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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People who think about donating priorities and perform due diligence are less likely to donate to organizations who engage in scandalous behavior. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Skepchick]] writer Heina Dadabhoy wrote about atheists and charitable giving:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|So many of us don’t [[Critical thinking|critically examine]] to what we pay attention and why, to whom we give our money and why, of what sort of news we keep abreast and why, about what we find out and why. We fail to recognize the disturbing patterns indicating structural injustices that emerge when we consider all the factors at hand and how these sorts of situations play out.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://skepchick.org/2014/01/fundraising/ Atheist Priorities in Fundraising] by Heina Dadabhoy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== David Gorski's complaint about atheist nonprofits ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Richard Dawkins photo.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|200px|right|The [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] had a scandal related to an embezzlement allegation.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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David Gorski at Scienceblogs wrote about atheist/skeptic organizations and financial mismanagement:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In any case, this makes me wonder: What is it about rationalist/skeptic groups that make them seemingly have such a hard time running their organizations well from a financial standpoint? After all, just a couple of months ago the [[Center for Inquiry]] (CFI) sent out letters desperately begging for more contributions. The reason was that CFI had one large benefactor whose yearly contribution funded approximately 20-25% of the yearly CFI budget. As clueless as I may be about finances, even I know that you don’t use such donations to run the operating expenses of an organization, because you can’t count on them from year to year and it’s too big a chunk. You use this money for special short-term projects and a rainy day fund. Not surprisingly, when this mysterious donor stopped donating earlier this year, suddently CFI was in deep doo-doo from a financial standpoint, prompting the desperate plea for donations and deep budget cuts. I realize that the down economy has played havoc with many nonprofit and charitable organizations, but these issues with skeptical organizations seem to go beyond just that.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See: [http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism, uncharitableness and suicide ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Atheism and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
A number of studies have confirmed that there is an inverse relationship to doing volunteer work and depression.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pursuit-of-happiness.org/science-of-happiness/caring/caring-and-happiness-reviews/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has a higher suicide rate than the general population. (see: [[Atheism and suicide]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism, leftism, social justice/progressive values and hypocrisy ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Historically,  the [[secular left]] has been dominant within the atheist community (see: [[Atheism and politics]]). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Progressive values according to leading progressive websites ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
According to leading progressive/leftists websites, progressive values include: caring and responsibility, carried out with strength; freedom; opportunity; responsibility; cooperation/community; protection/fairness; and honesty and open communication.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://thinkprogress.org/election/2013/03/22/1761431/what-it-means-to-be-a-progressive-a-manifesto/ What It Means To Be A Progressive: A Manifesto], Thinkprogress.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/11/09/658017/-What-are-Progressive-Values What are Progressive Values], Dailykos.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] has fallen short of the above-mentioned values (See: [[Atheism and social justice]] and [[Atheist hypocrisy]]).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist population and immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Irreligious Britain and low social mobility]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Social Darwinism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imuaiRO5mSQ&amp;amp;feature=sub Christians Give more to Charity than Atheists] ([[YouTube]] video featuring an audio clip of Dr. [[William Lane Craig]])&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://atheism-analyzed.blogspot.com/2011/05/atheist-charitable-giving.html Atheist charitable giving] by [[Atheism Analyzed]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2016/09/atheists-harass-orphanage-that-refused.html Atheists harass an orphanage that refused to agree to accept a donation with a stipulation attached to it]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Charity]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of [[sin]] is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of original sin. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and violence articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism, sin and rebellion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and satanic deception]] and [[LaVeyan Satanism]] and [[Atheism and arrogance]] and [[Atheism and Hell]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GustaveDoreParadiseLostSatanProfile.jpg|left|thumbnail|200px|Gustave Doré's depiction of [[Satan]] from [[John Milton]]'s Paradise Lost.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Got Questions Ministries indicates about atheism, sin and rebellion:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The main goal of those under the influence of the sin nature is to make himself a god, to have complete control over his life, or so he thinks. Then religion comes along with obligations, judgments, and restrictions, while atheists presume to define their own meaning and morality. They do not want to submit to God because their hearts are at “enmity against God,” and they have no desire to be subject to His Law. In fact they are incapable of doing so because their sin has blinded them to truth (Romans 8:6-7). This is why atheists spend most of their time complaining and arguing not about the scriptural proof texts, but about the “dos and don’ts.” Their natural rebelliousness detests the commandments of God. They simply hate the idea that anything—or any One—should have control over them. What they do not realize is that Satan himself is controlling them, blinding them, and preparing their souls for hell.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.gotquestions.org/evangelize-atheists.html Should Christians try to evangelize atheists?], Got Question Ministries&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and moral depravity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of [[sin]] is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of [[original sin]]. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and violence articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism, sin and rebellion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and satanic deception]] and [[LaVeyan Satanism]] and [[Atheism and arrogance]] and [[Atheism and Hell]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GustaveDoreParadiseLostSatanProfile.jpg|left|thumbnail|200px|Gustave Doré's depiction of [[Satan]] from [[John Milton]]'s Paradise Lost.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Got Questions Ministries indicates about atheism, sin and rebellion:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The main goal of those under the influence of the sin nature is to make himself a god, to have complete control over his life, or so he thinks. Then religion comes along with obligations, judgments, and restrictions, while atheists presume to define their own meaning and morality. They do not want to submit to God because their hearts are at “enmity against God,” and they have no desire to be subject to His Law. In fact they are incapable of doing so because their sin has blinded them to truth (Romans 8:6-7). This is why atheists spend most of their time complaining and arguing not about the scriptural proof texts, but about the “dos and don’ts.” Their natural rebelliousness detests the commandments of God. They simply hate the idea that anything—or any One—should have control over them. What they do not realize is that Satan himself is controlling them, blinding them, and preparing their souls for hell.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.gotquestions.org/evangelize-atheists.html Should Christians try to evangelize atheists?], Got Question Ministries&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and moral depravity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of [[sin]] is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of [[original sin]]. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and violence articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism, sin and rebellion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and satanic deception]] and [[Atheism and arrogance]] and [[Atheism and Hell]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GustaveDoreParadiseLostSatanProfile.jpg|left|thumbnail|200px|Gustave Doré's depiction of [[Satan]] from [[John Milton]]'s Paradise Lost.]]&lt;br /&gt;
Got Questions Ministries indicates about atheism, sin and rebellion:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The main goal of those under the influence of the sin nature is to make himself a god, to have complete control over his life, or so he thinks. Then religion comes along with obligations, judgments, and restrictions, while atheists presume to define their own meaning and morality. They do not want to submit to God because their hearts are at “enmity against God,” and they have no desire to be subject to His Law. In fact they are incapable of doing so because their sin has blinded them to truth (Romans 8:6-7). This is why atheists spend most of their time complaining and arguing not about the scriptural proof texts, but about the “dos and don’ts.” Their natural rebelliousness detests the commandments of God. They simply hate the idea that anything—or any One—should have control over them. What they do not realize is that Satan himself is controlling them, blinding them, and preparing their souls for hell.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.gotquestions.org/evangelize-atheists.html Should Christians try to evangelize atheists?], Got Question Ministries&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and moral depravity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of [[sin]] is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of [[original sin]]. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and violence articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism, sin and rebellion ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and satanic deception]] and [[Atheism and arrogance]] and [[Atheism and Hell]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Got Questions Ministries indicates about atheism, sin and rebellion:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The main goal of those under the influence of the sin nature is to make himself a god, to have complete control over his life, or so he thinks. Then religion comes along with obligations, judgments, and restrictions, while atheists presume to define their own meaning and morality. They do not want to submit to God because their hearts are at “enmity against God,” and they have no desire to be subject to His Law. In fact they are incapable of doing so because their sin has blinded them to truth (Romans 8:6-7). This is why atheists spend most of their time complaining and arguing not about the scriptural proof texts, but about the “dos and don’ts.” Their natural rebelliousness detests the commandments of God. They simply hate the idea that anything—or any One—should have control over them. What they do not realize is that Satan himself is controlling them, blinding them, and preparing their souls for hell.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.gotquestions.org/evangelize-atheists.html Should Christians try to evangelize atheists?], Got Question Ministries&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and moral depravity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of [[sin]] is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of [[original sin]]. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
See also:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and violence articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality]] &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and moral depravity]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Sin</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Bible}}&lt;br /&gt;
:''&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;For the mathematical function, see [[sine]]&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;.''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
'''Sin''' is a failure to conform to the standard of [[morality]], or is the state of the world that results from such failure.&lt;br /&gt;
Although we fantasize that sinful, selfish acts will bring us relief from pain, they don't really make us happy. &amp;quot;Reality is that sin is heartless and cruel. Reality is that sin always, always hurts you as well as others. The reality is that sin leads to death. Every single time. No good can come from sin. Ever.&amp;quot; [http://www.lutheranlogomaniac.com/2011/04/enough-or-jesus-laetare-2010/] According to theologian Emil Brunner, sin is desire for the autonomy of a man; therefore, in the last resort, it is the denial of God and self-deification.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book |title=Evangelical Truth: A Personal Plea For Unity, Integrity And Faithfulness |author=John Stott|publisher=Inter-Varsity Press |year=2003 |edition=3rd |pages=87|isbn=978-0851-119885 |url=http://books.google.com/books?id=tzzGgRKPNqwC&amp;amp;dq=John+Stott+Evangelical+Truth&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=Og_XUffcLKLV4gSGp4FQ&amp;amp;ved=0CCsQ6AEwAA}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bible (namely in ''1 John 3:4''), calls sin a lawlessness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web |title=1 John 3:4 |author= New International Version (NIV) |publisher=®, NIV® Copyright © 1973, 1978, 1984, 2011 by Biblica, Inc.®|url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+John+3%3A4&amp;amp;version=NIV |quote=Everyone who sins breaks the law; in fact, sin is lawlessness.}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Meaning of sin ==&lt;br /&gt;
The root meaning of the English word ''sin'' is actually, &amp;quot;He is guilty as charged.&amp;quot; This in turn implies that the person committing the offense knew, or ought to have known, that his act would ''be'' an offense before he committed it. This word actually captures the meaning that many religious traditions ascribe to sin.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Greek language|Greek]] word used in the original [[New Testament]] and translated &amp;quot;sin&amp;quot; in English is '''ἁμαρτία''' (''hamartia'') (whence ''[[hamartoma]]'' a malformation of [[cell]]s that are within their usual place in the body). This word captures the ''[[Christian]]'' meaning of sin much better. ''Hamartia'' means ''missing a target.'' Thus sin does not require bad intentions, but might result from a misunderstanding. This is not to say that the consequences are any less dire, however. It does mean that sin need not be intentional; it can be a knowing (but not intentional), reckless, or negligent act.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Required: a moral context ===&lt;br /&gt;
Sin, which is a moral failure, cannot exist in the absence of a code of [[morality]]. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This is not to say that sin requires a context of ''divinity.'' The context in which sin ceases to have meaning is not [[atheism]] ''per se'' but rather [[amoral]]ism &amp;amp;#8212; the doctrine that says that no person may properly define what is moral for another, because no two people will ever value the same thing to the same degree, or value the same collection of things by the same rank structure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whether any man ''ever'' lives without some form of moral code&amp;amp;#8212;even if that code is, &amp;quot;I denounce as sin any disagreement with myself or any attempt to stand in my way&amp;quot;&amp;amp;#8212;is [[Debate:Can any man live without some code of morality?|debatable]]. Nevertheless, without ''some'' form of moral context, sin has no meaning.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Differing views of sin ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Jewish ===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Judaism]], and certainly in ancient practice, the preferred method of [[atonement]] for sin was blood [[sacrifice]]. The Book of [[Leviticus]] prescribed multiple animal sacrifices for atonement for various types of sin. But by far the most important atonement&amp;amp;#8212;on the Day of Atonement (''[[Yom Kippur]]'')&amp;amp;#8212;was made by the high priest of the [[Hebrew]] people (originally [[Aaron]], brother of [[Moses]]). This involved making a blood sacrifice, entering the [[Holy of Holies]] (in [[Latin]], ''sanctum sanctorum''), and sprinkling some of the blood from the sacrifice on the [[Ark of the Covenant]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Animal sacrifice has not been part of Jewish practice since the destruction of the [[Temple of Jerusalem]] by the future Emperor [[Titus]] in 70 AD. But the [[Old Testament]] did not imply that animal sacrifice was the sole ''necessary'' measure for reconciliation. Simple repentance and prayer sufficed numerous times in Bible history.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Today, though animal sacrifices are no longer observed, Jews do observe ''Yom Kippur'' and other festivals related to repentance and reconciliation. But a movement now exists to attempt to regain exclusive control of the [[Temple Mount]] area in [[Jerusalem]], rebuild the Temple, and resume the burnt offerings, sin offerings, and guilt offerings prescribed in the [[Torah]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
In traditional Jewish thought, sin may be balanced by the good deeds one performs throughout life; the image of scales weighing one's life are prominent in folklore, similar to other ancient Middle Eastern religions such as ancient Egypt.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Christian views ===&lt;br /&gt;
Sin as defined by the New Testament is found in 1st John 3:4, &amp;quot;Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law; for sin is the transgression of the law.&amp;quot; (KJV)  There are many scriptures that give testimony to the punishment for sin, Rom 6:23 for example, lets us know the wages of sin is death, but the basic definition of sin is breaking Gods law.&lt;br /&gt;
{{See also|Seven Deadly Sins}}&lt;br /&gt;
==== Roman Catholic ====&lt;br /&gt;
Catholics classify sins as venial sin and mortal sin ([[grave sin]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.saintaquinas.com/mortal_sin.html What is a Mortal Sin?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See John 19:11 &amp;quot;''the greater sin''&amp;quot;, and 1 John 5:16-17 &amp;quot;''All wrongdoing is sin, but there is sin which is not mortal.''&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Roman Catholic Church|Roman Catholic]] doctrine distinguishes [[original sin]], or the sin of [[Adam]], from ''personal'' sins, which require individual reconciliation with God. A personal sin may be ''mortal'' (a particularly grave matter that the perpetrator commits by deliberate intent) or ''venial'' (a less grave matter that could result from a misunderstanding). The RCC distinction is: Mortal sins cut a person off from the grace of God; venial sins do not, but still injure one's relationship to God. A mortal sin is defined in the Roman Catholic church as being any transgression (a) regarding a grave matter, (b) which was premeditated and (c) committed with full knowledge of its sinful nature. A venial sin is defined as any sin which does not fulfil all three conditions for a mortal sin.&lt;br /&gt;
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A person may receive reconciliation for a mortal sin by making [[confession]] to a [[priest]]  and receiving [[Forgiveness|absolution]] (&amp;quot;''For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them''&amp;quot; Matthew 18:20, and verse 18; see John 20:22-23, 2 Corinthians 5:18-20, James 5:18; compare John 8:3-11); venial sins may optionally be confessed also. A Catholic who has committed mortal sin is to refrain from receiving the [[Holy Eucharist]] until receiving sacramental confession.&lt;br /&gt;
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===== Virgin Mary =====&lt;br /&gt;
Roman Catholic doctrine holds that not only was [[Jesus]] sinless, but so, also, was His Mother, [[Virgin Mary|Mary]]. The belief that the Virgin Mary was sinless at conception is called the [[Immaculate Conception]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Eastern Orthodox Church]] teaches that the Virgin Mary was born with Original Sin but that she was cleansed of this sin at the time of the Annunciation. The Church also teaches that by free will she did not commit any actual sin. &lt;br /&gt;
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This doctrine, called ''Marianism'', is not ''universally'' held by all Catholics, however.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Anglican Communion ====&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Anglican Communion]], essentially the breakaway church of the [[United Kingdom]], retains the Roman Catholic tradition of confession and absolution of sin. But instead of an individual process, confession in Anglican churches is a group activity, and absolution is pronounced by a [[Minister (Protestant)|minister]] to the entire church-going group. Purgatory and indulgences have no place in Anglican doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Eastern and Oriental Orthodox ====&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Eastern Orthodox Church]] there are no &amp;quot;categories&amp;quot; of sin as found in the Christian West. In the pre-Vatican II Roman Catholic catechism, sins were categorized as &amp;quot;mortal&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;venial.&amp;quot;  These categories do not exist in the Orthodox Church.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Orthodoxy believes that, while everyone bears the consequences of the first sin, the foremost of which is death, only Adam and Eve are guilty of that sin. Roman Catholicism teaches that everyone bears not only the consequence, but also the guilt, of that sin. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Orthodox churches, including Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox, differ little from [[Judaism]] in their holding of what sin is and how to reconcile it&amp;amp;#8212;except that animal sacrifices have never been part of Orthodox tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== The Reformation ====&lt;br /&gt;
In 1517, [[Martin Luther]] launched the [[Protestant Reformation]]. In his famous &amp;quot;95 theses&amp;quot; he asserted the doctrine of ''[[Sola Scriptura]]''&amp;amp;#8212;literally, &amp;quot;by Scripture only.&amp;quot; Luther rejected out-of-hand most of the various categories of sin, and the elaborate rituals that attended its so-called reconciliation.&lt;br /&gt;
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Sin, according to Luther, is any failure to observe God's commandments or other Godly precepts that one may determine from the New Testament. ''Reconciliation'' from sin was a ''private'' matter between God and any of His followers. A priest was ''not'' required, because that would imply that a human being, of whatever office, could stand in the place of God.&lt;br /&gt;
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Salvation was strictly by faith and strictly by grace. Luther drew directly on the letters of [[Paul]] that addressed this very subject.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== The Baptist Tradition ====&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Baptist]]s would generally agree with Luther. Like him, Baptists hold that sin is an act or omission that displeases God, and the state of being that the perpetrator falls into, and remains in until he has confessed this sin.&lt;br /&gt;
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Baptist churches do not tend to engage in corporate, collective confessions. Rather, Baptist practice depends heavily on {{Bible ref|book=Matthew|chap=18|verses=15-20|version=KJV}}, which prescribes this procedure for the handling of sin that gives offense to a fellow believer:&lt;br /&gt;
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# The aggrieved person, or the minister if the aggrieved person has asked him to, tries to encourage the perpetrator to repent. ''Repentance'' (Greek ''metanoia'') means a change of mind, or a change of heart.&lt;br /&gt;
# Failing that, whoever tried to talk to the perpetrator the first time, tries a second time and brings a witness.&lt;br /&gt;
# If this still does not bring repentance, and a cessation of the behavior, then and only then does the matter come before the entire church. The minister lays out the case, and puts the matter to a vote as to whether the offender ought to be allowed to remain in fellowship.&lt;br /&gt;
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Not all Baptist churches practice this discipline, however. In such environments, sin is a matter between the offender and God (and the person or persons to whom the offender might have given offense). Some observers suggest that churches suffer when they fail to practice discipline as they should.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Jehovah's Witnesses====&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jehovah's Witnesses]] teach that Sin as the rejecting of [[God]] as the one qualified to decide what is 'Good and Evil', and thus a rejection of his right to rule. ({{bibleverse|Romans|1:18-32|NASB}}) &lt;br /&gt;
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It is the condition in which all humans are born alienated from [[God]] as a result of disobedience, of his first command not to eat from the [[Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil]], and thus sentenced to death ({{bibleverse||Genesis|2:16-17|NIV}}). In this condition they fail to measure up to God's standards, and unable to reflect his qualities, or they “Fall Short” of God’s Glory. ({{bibleverse||Romans|3:23|NIV}}) Created in God’s image, but unable to reflect his qualities Humans eventually die.  ({{bibleverse||James|1:15|NIV}}) &lt;br /&gt;
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({{bibleverse||Romans|5:12|NIV}}) says that Sin is a condition that is passed on from parents to their children and is thus inherited, causing eventual death for the human who is &amp;quot;Born into Sin&amp;quot;. See also- ({{bibleverse||Romans|6:23|NIV}}). &lt;br /&gt;
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({{bibleverse||Romans|5:12|NIV}}) Therefore, as through one man [[Adam]] Sin entered into the world, and death through Sin; and so death passed unto all men, for they had all sinned.&lt;br /&gt;
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This condition also has, according to ({{bibleverse||Romans|5:12|NIV}}), a one hundred percent infection rate, with the exception of [[Jesus Christ]], who was born and was killed with no Sin ({{bibleverse||Hebrews|4:15|NIV}}) so as to pay back what was lost ({{bibleverse||Deuteronomy|19:21|NIV}}) with [[Adam]], a Sinless Human life for a Sinless Human life. (1 Corinthians 15:22, 45)&lt;br /&gt;
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The connection of Death and Sin is first seen in the Bible at ({{bibleverse||Genesis|2:17|NIV}}) where God said that Sinning, or disobeying his commandment, would result in death for the otherwise immortal humans, [[Adam]] and [[Eve]]. Eve bore no children prior to becoming Sinful, so all of their offspring were born with Sin in their bodies and they would die. See also- ({{bibleverse||Romans|7:15-23|NIV}}).&lt;br /&gt;
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The &amp;quot;dying process&amp;quot; so-to-speak took much longer for those closer to the original state of being clean of Sin, with humans prior to the flood of [[Noah]]'s day living as old as 900 plus years ({{bibleverse||Genesis|5:14|NIV}}). A good example of this can be seen in death of [[Adam]] at 930 years at ({{bibleverse||Genesis|5:5|NIV}}), or Noah’s at 950 years at ({{bibleverse||Genesis|9:29|NIV}}). As the narrative in the [[Bible]] continues, the &amp;quot;dying process&amp;quot; of Sin shortens the length of life in humans until it is stated in ({{bibleverse||Psalms|90:10|NIV}}) that, &amp;quot;The length of our days is seventy years--or eighty, if we have the strength&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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The inherited aspect of Sin ({{bibleverse||Romans|5:12|NIV}}) is linked directly to the willful acts of Sinning ({{bibleverse||James|1:14-15|NIV}}). The Book of [[Genesis]] states that Humans born into sin before and after the flood had Hearts that were inclined towards &amp;quot;Evil&amp;quot; from their youth up ({{bibleverse||Genesis|6:5; 8:21|NIV}}). Jesus confirmed this by saying that it is not what goes into a person’s mouth that makes him sinful, but that which comes up out of their mouth from within their 'Heart'. See also- ({{bibleverse||Romans|7:15-23|NIV}}).&lt;br /&gt;
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({{bibleverse||Jeremiah|17:9|NIV}}) says of the Human heart, &amp;quot;The heart is deceitful above all things, and it is exceedingly corrupt: who can know it?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The book of James gives a detailed description of this process of the act of Sinning and Death:&lt;br /&gt;
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({{bibleverse||James|1:13|NIV}}) When under trial let no one say: “I am being tried by God.&amp;quot; For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he try anyone.&lt;br /&gt;
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({{bibleverse||James|1:14|NIV}}) but each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his OWN desire,&lt;br /&gt;
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({{bibleverse||James|1:15|NIV}}) Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to Sin; in turn, Sin, when it becomes accomplished brings forth death.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ultimate removal of this condition from the human race is said to occur when [[The Kingdom of God]] comes ({{bibleverse||Daniel|2:44|NIV}}) and rules alone, with no contemporary kingdoms. Then, it is said, that death will be removed. (1 Corinthians 15:26)&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Fundamentalists ====&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Sin (Fundamentalism)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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The above article is a comprehensive theory of sin, and its effects on the offender, on mankind as a whole, and on the entire world.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Islam ===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Islam]], sin is very simple: anything that runs counter to the will of [[Allah]] (Arabic for [[God]]). In Islam, sin is simply an act, never a state of being.&lt;br /&gt;
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Islam recognizes five gradations of sin, in order of severity:&lt;br /&gt;
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# Mistakes.&lt;br /&gt;
# Immorality.&lt;br /&gt;
# Transgressions.&lt;br /&gt;
# Wickedness and depravity.&lt;br /&gt;
# Ascribing a partner to God. Thus this one special instance of [[blasphemy]] is held worse than any other sin a man can commit.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Islam, permanent reconciliation cannot come in life. Instead, at death, a person has his &amp;quot;good deeds&amp;quot; measured against his &amp;quot;bad deeds&amp;quot; (sins). If the good outweighs the bad, then the person must walk a tightrope over a lake of fire in order to cross into heaven. Islam, however, offers one important exception: any person who dies ''in the course of an act that advances the Muslim faith'' gains automatic entry into heaven, regardless of any prior sins he has committed. The usual, and some Muslims (particularly the [[Wahhabism|Wahabbi]] sect) say the only, context for such a death is ''[[jihad]]'', literally ''holy [[war]]''. Furthermore, ''jihad'' is a ''physical'' war against non-adherents to Islam.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other Muslims will say that ''jihad'' is not physical at all, but refers instead to a personal struggle that every Muslim must engage in continually against sin and the temptations thereto.&lt;br /&gt;
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Still others state that two forms of Jihad are known:&lt;br /&gt;
# The greater Jihad, which is the internal struggle within a person against sin.&lt;br /&gt;
# The lesser Jihad, physical war against the infidel.&lt;br /&gt;
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Those who make that distinction state that what they call the &amp;quot;lesser jihad&amp;quot; is practiced only by fanatical holders to Islam. A ''fanatic'' is one who holds to a set of beliefs uncritically&amp;amp;#8212;that is, without being willing to judge them. Since the [[September 11, 2001 attacks|World Trade Center incident]], a number of Muslims ''have'' begun a critical analysis of Muslim doctrine (both verbal and written) and the place of Islam in the civilized world. Whether those voices can find sufficient logical support in the written texts that define Islam is debatable.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Totalitarianism ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Totalitarianism]] is a [[philosophy]] of [[government]] that holds that the government ''must'' have absolute authority over ''all'' aspects of life. [[Communist]] regimes have always been totalitarians in practice, just as the [[Nazi]]s were.&lt;br /&gt;
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Totalitarian authorities and their apologists have their concept of sin as well: it is anything that works against the government, or tries to thwart its goals. This is true even in a regime that is explicitly [[Atheism|atheistic]] in world view. Reconciliation generally requires recantation.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Environmentalism ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Environmentalism]] also has a standard of value: ''the good of the planet as a wild system.'' Anything that harms the earth or makes it less wild is sinful in this system. The controversy surrounding [[global warming]] is, at root, a controversy about environmentalism as a source of moral values, and the allegation that humans in general, and/or some humans in particular, have transgressed against the environmentalist moral standard.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Summary ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some religious and philosophical traditions consider sin to be a deliberate act; others say that it can be merely a mistake. Some say that reconciliation for sin requires a certain work; others that reconciliation is by the grace of [[God]] (or, for some, a cult leader), and still others (most notably the Objectivists) say that reconciliation is not required, except perhaps to any particular affronted person.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[atheism|Atheists]] typically lack a concept of sin, and may even ridicule it. More generally, ''amoral'' individuals deny that sin exists, because sin presupposes a moral code that someone might breach.&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Indifference]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sin]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist population and immorality]] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Debate: Do genuinely saved Christians sin?]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Repentance]] - [[Confession]] - [[Penance]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Revelation, Book of (historical exegesis)]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
*  Bretzke, James T. ''A Morally Complex World: Engaging Contemporary Moral Theology''  (2004) [http://www.amazon.com/Morally-Complex-World-Engaging-Contemporary/dp/0814651585/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1260605470&amp;amp;sr=1-5 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Connolly, Hugh. ''Sin'' (2002) 168pp very brief history of sin in Christian theology; 120pp&lt;br /&gt;
* Paulson, Ronald. ''Sin and Evil: Moral Values in Literature''(2007) 403pp.; focus on Swift, Dickens, Hawthorne, Melville, James, Conrad, Faulkner, Greene, and Vonnegut&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Sin| ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Christian Theology]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Traits]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of [[sin]] is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
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New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
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And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of [[original sin]]. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and violence articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{Reflist|colwidth=30em}}&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Dr. Paul M. Elliott wrote about '''atheism and sin''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Misappropriating Biblical terminology, New Atheists speak of &amp;quot;evil&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;truth&amp;quot; - and &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot;. But in the [[New Atheism|New Atheist]] view, [[religion]] is the root of all [[evil]], the ultimate &amp;quot;[[truth]]&amp;quot; is that there is no [[God]], and the ultimate &amp;quot;justice&amp;quot; is the eradication of [[faith]]. The monstrosity and death we see in the world are simply part of the [[Darwinism|Darwinian]] package. The chilling moral of New Atheism's doctrine of sin is this: The smartest and strongest will always win.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
New [[Atheism|Atheists]] openly ridicule the Biblical doctrine of sin. Yet, they misappropriate the [[Bible|Biblical]] terms of good and evil. Religion, they say, is the root of all evil.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
And, we know from the Biblical record, the history of mankind outside Scripture, and from personal experience (if we are honest about it) that the Bible's teaching on [[original sin]] is an accurate picture of the state of mankind both collectively and individually. The world is in the condition it is in - hatred, bloodshed, disease, death, and chaos - because of [[original sin]]. Because the Bible presents an accurate picture, God's holy law (and our inability to keep it) shows us our desperate condition.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.teachingtheword.org/apps/articles/default.asp?articleid=59300&amp;amp;columnid=5433 What is New Atheism's Doctrine of Sin?] By Dr. Paul M. Elliott&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and truth]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and morality ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Not possessing a [[Religion and morality|religious basis for morality]], which can provide a basis for [[objective morality]], [[atheism]] is fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of providing a coherent system of [[morality]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by&lt;br /&gt;
Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality The failure of atheism to account for morality]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and ethics]] and [[Atheism and the Problem of Evil|Atheism and the problem of evil]]&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, atheists have been the biggest mass murderers in history (see: [[Atheism and mass murder]]). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to atheistic [[communism]] is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987 (See also: [[Atheism and communism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.  Retrieved July 19, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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'''Atheism and various types of immorality:''' &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and deception articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and unforgiveness articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Sin as a cause of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Causes of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Christian Post'' reports about the Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel's book ''The Making of an Atheist'': &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Spiegel, who converted to Christianity in 1980, has witnessed the pattern among several of his friends. Their path from Christianity to atheism involved: moral slippage (such as infidelity, resentment [[Atheism and forgiveness|or unforgiveness]]); followed by withdrawal from contact with fellow believers; followed by growing doubts about their faith, accompanied by continued indulgence in the respective sin; and culminating in a conscious rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Atheism and forgiveness|l1=Atheism and unforgiveness}}&lt;br /&gt;
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