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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Vesicular&amp;diff=601728</id>
		<title>Vesicular</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-04T13:44:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: Haha, give me some credit, I did manage to reword some of it  ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The term '''vesicular''' refers to a medical condition &amp;quot;characterized by small elevations of the [[skin]] containing fluid&amp;quot;, more commonly known as blisters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/about/terms/glossary.htm#v&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Medicine]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Vesicular&amp;diff=601723</id>
		<title>Vesicular</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-04T13:32:28Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: this is nearly word for word from the source, but there's nothing else to this article, so I don't know what to do&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The term '''vesicular''' refers to a medical condition characterized by small elevations of the [[skin]] containing fluid, more commonly known as blisters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/about/terms/glossary.htm#v&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Medicine]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Christian_Heritage_Party&amp;diff=601722</id>
		<title>Christian Heritage Party</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Christian_Heritage_Party&amp;diff=601722"/>
		<updated>2009-01-04T13:28:46Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Christian Heritage Party''' is a [[Canadian]] [[federal]] political party. It advocates that Canada be governed according to biblical teaching. The party's current national leader is [[Jim Hnatiuk]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Canadian Political Parties]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Obligations-_U.S._Government&amp;diff=601721</id>
		<title>Obligations- U.S. Government</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Obligations-_U.S._Government&amp;diff=601721"/>
		<updated>2009-01-04T13:28:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: on second thought, merge might be best?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{Merge|Obligation)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Binding agreements that will result in outlays, immediately or in the future. Budgetary resources must be available before [[obligation]]s can be incurred legally. Un-liquidated obligations should be reviewed regularly and those not likely to require payment should be de-obligated.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[category:United States Government]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Budget terms]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Obligations-_U.S._Government&amp;diff=601720</id>
		<title>Obligations- U.S. Government</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-04T13:25:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: rename request&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{move|Obligations (U.S. Government)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Binding agreements that will result in outlays, immediately or in the future. Budgetary resources must be available before [[obligation]]s can be incurred legally. Un-liquidated [[obligation]]s should be reviewed regularly and those not likely to require payment should be de-obligated.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[category:United States Government]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Budget terms]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Whiskey_Rebellion&amp;diff=601719</id>
		<title>Whiskey Rebellion</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-04T13:23:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Whiskey Rebellion''' was the refusal of farmers in western Pennsylvania in the 1790s to pay federal taxes of 6 to 9 cents a gallon on the whiskey the produced for market. The tax on whiskey was pushed by Secretary of Treasury [[Alexander Hamilton]] in 1791, to help pay the national debt.  Farmers grew corn, which was too bulky to ship to markets, so they distilled it into whiskey, which was easy to ship in barrels.  The American backcountry in the 1790s was intensely individualistic and resented the way the new government interfered in their business. Other grievances against the government included the failure to open the Mississippi River to navigation (so they could ship whiskey to New Orleans), the disasters of the Indian wars in Ohio, the high prices of land, arduous and ill-paid militia duty, scarcity of specie, and the creation of a salaried official class. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Whiskey1794.jpg|thumb|400px]]&lt;br /&gt;
A federal marshal was attacked in Allegheny County while serving a process,  and on July 17 1794 several hundred men, led by members of a local &amp;quot;Democratic society,&amp;quot;  attacked and burned the home of Gen. John Neville, the regional official in charge of collecting the tax as &amp;quot;inspector of the excise&amp;quot;.  The farmers closed the courts and robbed the U.S. mail. President [[George Washington]] refused to tolerate this violent protest; on Aug. 7 he issued a stern proclamation ordering the disaffected men to return to their homes, and calling up the militia from Maryland, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.  The governors of those states provided 13,000 militiamen; Washington personally led into the troubled region.  The rebellion immediately evaporated, no one was punished, the Federalists were strengthened, Hamilton gained more power, the tax was collected (until Jefferson repealed it in 1801) and national authority was assured.  The Whiskey Rebellion is very similar to the [[Fries Rebellion]] which happened four years later in Pennsylvania. &lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Whiskey1794-Washington.jpg|thumb|280px|left|Washington marches to suppress the rebellion]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Baldwin, Leland D. ''Whiskey Rebels: The Story of a Frontier Uprising.'' (1939) [http://www.questia.com/read/8495881?title=Whiskey%20Rebels%3a%20The%20Story%20of%20a%20Frontier%20Uprising online edition] &lt;br /&gt;
* Boyd,  Steven R., ed. ''The Whiskey Rebellion: Past and Present Perspectives '' (1985), articles by scholars&lt;br /&gt;
* Hogeland, William. ''The Whiskey Rebellion: George Washington, Alexander Hamilton, and the frontier rebels who challenged America's newfound sovereignty.'' (2006). &lt;br /&gt;
* Kohn, Richard H. &amp;quot;The Washington Administration's Decision to Crush the Whiskey Rebellion,&amp;quot; ''Journal of American History,' Vol. 59, No. 3 (Dec., 1972), pp. 567-584 [http://www.jstor.org/stable/1900658 in JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
* Slaughter, Thomas P. ''The Whiskey Rebellion: Frontier epilogue to the American Revolution.'' (1986) [http://www.questia.com/read/101534833?title=The%20Whiskey%20Rebellion%3a%20Frontier%20Epilogue%20to%20the%20American%20Revolution online edition]. &lt;br /&gt;
* Whitten, David O. &amp;quot;An Economic Inquiry into the Whiskey Rebellion of 1794,&amp;quot; ''Agricultural History,'' Vol. 49, No. 3 (Jul., 1975), pp. 491-504 [http://www.jstor.org/stable/3741786 in JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category: United States History]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category: Tax revolts]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservative_Coalition&amp;diff=601718</id>
		<title>Conservative Coalition</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-04T13:22:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: capitalize?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Conservative Coalition''' was a coalition in the U.S. Congress that brought together the majority of the Northern [[Republicans]] and a conservative, mostly Southern minority of the [[Democrats]].  The coalition battled the liberals of the [[New Deal Coalition]] and largely controlled Congress from 1937 to 1963. It continued as a potent force until the 1990s when the southern Democrats were replaced by southern Republicans. It no longer exists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In its heyday, its most important Republican leader until his death in 1963 was Senator [[Robert A. Taft]] of Ohio; Illinois Senator [[Everett Dirksen]] was the key Republican in the 1960s. The chief Democrats were Senator [[Richard Russell, Jr.]] of Georgia and Congressmen [[Howard W. Smith]] of Virginia and [[Carl Vinson]] of Georgia. &lt;br /&gt;
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Between 1939 and 1963, the coalition was able to exercise virtual veto power over domestic legislation, and no major liberal legislation was passed during this entire quarter century.  [[Harry Truman]] won reelection in 1948 and carried a Democratic Congress, but the only portion of his [[Fair Deal]] program that passed was cosponsored by Taft. Under [[Lyndon Johnson]] in 1963-65 liberals broke the power of the coalition by passing the Civil Rights Act, which was assisted by a newly-elected liberal Congress in 1964. Congress passed the liberal [[Great Society]] programs over the opposition of the coalition. However the coalition regained strength in the 1966 election, in the face of massive rioting in the cities, and the tearing apart of the Democratic [[New Deal coalition]] over issues of black power, liberalism, student radicalism and Vietnam. After 1994 the Republicans took control of most of the conservative southern districts, so the Southern Democratic part of the coalition evaporated.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* Caro, Robert A. ''The Years of Lyndon Johnson: vol 3: Master of the Senate'' (2002); highly detailed narrative of late 1950s&lt;br /&gt;
* Dierenfield, Bruce J. ''Keeper of the Rules: Congressman Howard W. Smith of Virginia'' (1987)&lt;br /&gt;
* Fite, Gilbert. ''Richard B. Russell, Jr, Senator from Georgia'' (2002)&lt;br /&gt;
* Goldsmith, John A. ''Colleagues: Richard B. Russell and His Apprentice, Lyndon B. Johnson.'' (1993)&lt;br /&gt;
* Hulsey, Byron C. ''Everett Dirksen and His Presidents: How a Senate Giant Shaped American Politics''. (2000).&lt;br /&gt;
* MacNeil, Neil. ''Forge of Democracy: The House of Representatives'' (1963) [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=11599068 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Malsberger, John W. ''From Obstruction to Moderation: The Transformation of Senate Conservatism, 1938-1952'' 2000&lt;br /&gt;
* Moore, John Robert. &amp;quot;The Conservative Coalition in the United States Senate, 1942-45.&amp;quot; ''Journal of Southern History'' 1967 33(3): 369-376. [http://www.jstor.org/stable/2204865 in JSTOR] statistical analysis of roll calls  &lt;br /&gt;
* Nye, Mary Alice. &amp;quot;Conservative Coalition Support in the House of Representatives, 1963-1988,&amp;quot; ''Legislative Studies Quarterly,'' Vol. 18, No. 2 (May, 1993), pp. 255-270 [http://www.jstor.org/stable/439993 in JSTOR] +  &lt;br /&gt;
* Patterson, James T. &amp;quot;A Conservative Coalition Forms in Congress, 1933-1939,&amp;quot; ''The Journal of American History,'' Vol. 52, No. 4. (Mar., 1966), pp. 757-772. [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0021-8723%28196603%2952%3A4%3C757%3AACCFIC%3E2.0.CO%3B2-C in JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
* Patterson, James. ''Congressional Conservatism and the New Deal: The Growth of the Conservative Coalition in Congress, 1933-39'' (1967) [http://www.historyebook.org/ online at ACLS e-books]&lt;br /&gt;
* Patterson, James T. ''Mr. Republican: A Biography of Robert A. Taft'' (1972) &lt;br /&gt;
* Remini, Robert V. ''The House: The History of the House of Representatives'' (2006) &lt;br /&gt;
* Schapsmeier Edward L., and Frederick H. Schapsmeier. ''Dirksen of Illinois''. (1985) the standard biography&lt;br /&gt;
* Schickler, Eric. ''Disjointed Pluralism: Institutional Innovation and the Development of the U.S. Congress'' (2001)&lt;br /&gt;
* Shelley II, Mack C. &amp;quot;Presidents and the Conservative Coalition in the U. S. Congress,&amp;quot; ''Legislative Studies Quarterly,'' Vol. 8, No. 1 (Feb., 1983), pp. 79-96 [http://www.jstor.org/stable/439472 in JSTOR] &lt;br /&gt;
* Shelley II, Mack C. ''The Permanent Majority: The Conservative Coalition in the United States Congress'' (1983)&lt;br /&gt;
* Rohde, David W. ''Parties and Leaders in the Postreform House'' (1991)&lt;br /&gt;
* Young, Roland. ''Congressional Politics in the Second World War'' (1956)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:United States Political Organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:United States History]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Atomic_bomb&amp;diff=601716</id>
		<title>Talk:Atomic bomb</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Atomic_bomb&amp;diff=601716"/>
		<updated>2009-01-04T13:20:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: /* Revisionist */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Revisionist==&lt;br /&gt;
I am not sure what was revisionist about my link. Your cite states exactly the same &amp;quot;make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city.&amp;quot; Thus, leaflets were only dropped ''after'' the Hiroshima bombing. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:17, 4 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The reason I prefer email between Admins is to save embarrassment, Jessica.  Revert and try your link. '''''It didn't work''''', went to a deleted or blank page. In the future try counting to ten, asking or checking before you publicly comment to me, please! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Administrator&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:13, 4 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It only didn't work because of the formatting.  Here's the link minus the &amp;quot;|The&amp;quot;: https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v46i3a07p.htm  Not sure how it's revisionist though.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 08:19, 4 January 2009 (EST)  Additionally, I also don't see what was embarrassing about Jessica's question.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Atomic_bomb&amp;diff=601715</id>
		<title>Talk:Atomic bomb</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-04T13:19:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Revisionist==&lt;br /&gt;
I am not sure what was revisionist about my link. Your cite states exactly the same &amp;quot;make inquiry as to what happened to Hiroshima when just one atomic bomb fell on that city.&amp;quot; Thus, leaflets were only dropped ''after'' the Hiroshima bombing. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:17, 4 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The reason I prefer email between Admins is to save embarrassment, Jessica.  Revert and try your link. '''''It didn't work''''', went to a deleted or blank page. In the future try counting to ten, asking or checking before you publicly comment to me, please! --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;/Administrator&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:13, 4 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It only didn't work because of the formatting.  Here's the link minus the &amp;quot;|The&amp;quot;: https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/kent-csi/docs/v46i3a07p.htm  Not sure how it's revisionist though.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 08:19, 4 January 2009 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ring_wraith&amp;diff=601706</id>
		<title>Ring wraith</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Ring_wraith&amp;diff=601706"/>
		<updated>2009-01-04T12:18:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: Redirecting to Nazgûl&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Nazgûl]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Relationship_between_science_and_religion&amp;diff=601114</id>
		<title>Relationship between science and religion</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-03T23:35:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: fix double redirect&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Religion and science]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Young-Earth_creationism&amp;diff=601113</id>
		<title>Young-Earth creationism</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-03T23:35:11Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: fix double redirect&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Young Earth Creationism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Sexist&amp;diff=601112</id>
		<title>Sexist</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-03T23:34:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: fix double redirect&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Sexual discrimination]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Gay_animals&amp;diff=601107</id>
		<title>Gay animals</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-03T23:32:10Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: fix double redirect&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Homosexuality in animals myth]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Public_schools_in_the_United_States&amp;diff=600051</id>
		<title>Talk:Public schools in the United States</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Public_schools_in_the_United_States&amp;diff=600051"/>
		<updated>2009-01-03T03:56:06Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: /* Where is your proof? */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;Looks like a few people are trying to edit this page at the same time.  Between this and my initial screw-up with providing references, I think my edit should be alright.  I'll work on some more names later.--Jimmy 14:45, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh my bad. I hate it when people edit conflict me so I always try to wait, but I guess I wated too long. I'm not sure why you undid the formatting though. In general we bullet any lists because it's so much easier to read. I'll chalk it up to an edit conflict and undo it. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 15:12, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheistic Public Schools? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Public schools are not atheistic institutions. Just because they obey the constitution and don't promote prayer, it doesn't make them atheistic. In addition, they don't promote atheism at all, they merely don't promote religion. If no one minds, I'll remove the first section from the article.--[[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 19:17, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree completely. Saying that because public schools do not preach christianity means that they are &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; is ridiculous. Aren't conservatives the ones who say parents should educate their children about morals, not the government? Schools should teach math, science, history, writing, art, and foreign language and leave the rest for people to decide on their own. ''That'' is limited government. --[[User:Mars2035|Mars2035]] 21:21, 18 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My high school had agnostic students--thought they were atheist--with many Christian/Catholic teachers. +_+ &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;always tired&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; [[User:Kektklik|Kektk]] 14:03, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Religion is censored from [[public schools]]:  there is no classroom prayer, no religious symbols, no emphasize on moral right and wrong, etc.  Sure, students may be agnostic or religious, but they better not try to say a group prayer during class time or they risk being punished.  That's an atheistic culture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Mr Schlafly:  It is one thing to assert something and another to actually provide a reference.  Is there any chance you could provide a valid reference that states American public schools are atheistic?  In my daughter's school, students are allowed to pray during class hours, moral values are taught and emphasized during civics and other classes, and she has never seen anyone punished for praying.  The atheist tag you are placing on this article wouldn't be constantly challenged if you could provide a solid reference.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 16:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: There is no classroom prayer in any [[public school]] in the [[United States]].  Does that really need a reference?  No morals are taught either and no religious symbols are displayed.  The [[Ten Commandments]] cannot be found either.  References could be supplied for these obvious facts; indeed, you could add them yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:45, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Mr. Schlafly:  Please reference my last comment.  There is obviously prayer allowed and morals taught at my daughter's PUBLIC SCHOOL which is in AMERICA so you are wrong about asserting, without evidence, that prayer in public schools is prohibited in America.  And yes, your assertion needs a reference because it flies in the face of every statement issued by the Clinton and Bush administrations concerning prayer in public schools.  This is even mentioned in the article.  I even posted other evidence concerning the opinions of many civil liberties groups and their support of the constitutional right of students to pray in public school but you declared that edit was 'liberal' and deleted it.  Now if you want to insist that both Clinton and Bush are completely wrong and the advice they got from their legal advisors is completely without merit, please post a valid reference that disputes the opinions of our country's leaders and legal experts.  I don't have the slightest clue where I would find a reference that supports what you are claiming or I would gladly assist.  Please provide the reference to your assertion so we can all lay this matter to rest. --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 17:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article states that public schools are &amp;quot;atheistic,&amp;quot; and atheism is defined by this encyclopedia as the denial of the existence of God. I don't mean to get overly technical here, but it seems illogical that a broadly defined institution such as American public schools could be said to deny the existence of God, unless there has been some statement (or a rash of statements) that I am not aware of (and is not cited) on behalf of public schools specifically denying that God exists. The thrust of this article seems to be not that public schools are atheistic but that they are Godless institutions, lacking in the moral fundamentals of religion and defining themselves as expressly secular. Therefore, I am changing &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; in the header.  [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 12:43, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Public schools are not &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;, which means reflective of society as a whole.  Rather, they are deliberately exclusive of faith, morality and religion.  &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; is a pejorative term, and atheistic is better because it encompasses atheistic ideologies like evolution that are taught in schools.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:11, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I suppose you're right, although &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is often used to mean &amp;quot;exclusive of religion.&amp;quot; Yes, &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; is a pejorative, but so is &amp;quot;atheistic,&amp;quot; as least as it is defined in this encyclopedia. I also contest that evolution is an (exclusively) atheistic ideology, as many scientists who believe in evolution are theists. Finally, do you have any citations to support the fact that public schools specifically deny the existence of God, or are you using &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; more as a catch-all to describe the godless mindset in general (and, if so, I'd like a better definition of the term). [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 13:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There may or may not be theistic evolutionists, but evolution is predominantly an atheistic ideology.   Ditto for other things taught in public school, such as materialism.  Schools are not merely &amp;quot;godless&amp;quot;, as they exclude teaching of &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot;.  The term &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is misused to mean &amp;quot;exclusive of religion.&amp;quot;  That is not its actual meaning.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:42, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Sorry, just one more point here, regarding the definition of &amp;quot;secular:&amp;quot; according to dictionary.com, which may not be the best source, the first 3 definitions specifically mean &amp;quot;non-religious&amp;quot; and there is no definition given for &amp;quot;reflective of a society as a whole.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 14:13, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: I just checked Merriam-Webster and ''none'' of the definitions mean &amp;quot;non-religious.&amp;quot; [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secular]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:02, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: As usual, I hate to differ with you, but 'I' just checked Merriam-Webster, and the first two definitions say &amp;quot;non-religious.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 20:01, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Non-religious&amp;quot; does not capture the hostility, such as the affirmative censorship of prayer.  A group may be non-religious and still allow, and even welcome, an occasional prayer.  But an atheistic culture censors the occasional group prayer, as public schools do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:54, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think this is a good point, but what I want to know is why you want to characterize hostility toward religion on the part of public schools (an unsourced pejorative), yet you won't use &amp;quot;godless&amp;quot; on the grounds that it is pejorative. Also, I was hoping for an answer to the other concerns I brought up, and if I may add one more to that: you say that &amp;quot;Schools are not merely godless, as they exclude teaching of right and wrong,&amp;quot; but don't you think that being godless inherently suggests the lack of morality, in the same way that atheism does? Again, you need to cite some sources to describe this broader atheistic lifestyle you seem to be describing. [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 14:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As I've said before (I think, but I'm too lazy to check), I'd prefer &amp;quot;nontheistic&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;atheistic.&amp;quot;  Usual disclaimers apply. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 22:16, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: [[Public schools]] are hostile to more than [[God]], such as right and wrong, and promote (false) ideologies that lead students to [[atheism]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:37, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Not that anything on this site is remotely correct (I thought this site was a joke when I read the Obama &amp;quot;article&amp;quot;...it still could be for all I know), but public education is something I just gotta take a stand on. No one knows better than someone who's been through 11.5 years of it. And if anyone's wondering, I live in the conservative state of SC, smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt. So don't tell me my surroundings influence my opinions, because they don't. I know this comment (or parts of it) will be deleted/altered shortly after it is posted (because I don't agree with you...very fair, I know), but I hope at least one diehard conservative reads this and realizes that not every issue can be defended from his upper-middle class white Christian Hummer-driving viewpoint. If anyone would like to discuss my contribution further on an unbiased, uncensored, free medium, my AIM name is kevh89 and my e-mail address is Nivek_04085@yahoo.com. So much for access to Conservapedia, because like a dissenter in communist Russia, I will probably be exiled from the IP for disagreeing. I'll just have to log in on a friends' computer for my daily laughs. This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; is an insult to education. [[User:Frogmaster13|Frogmaster13]] 21:58, 15 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to see evidence for the assertion that public schools are atheistic and spoken prayer is forbidden in the classroom.  The idea that this should be present without a reference goes against the standards of this encyclopedia.--Jimmy 13:56, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Then go ahead and help find it.  If I can find such references within the time it takes you to complain about the lack of them, then you can find them as well and help contribute to the building of this encyclopedia.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It is my understanding that the person making the claim needs to provide the source documentation.  For the record, I do not know of any reputable source that claims the American public school system is atheistic.  Nor do I know of any law or court decision that prohibits all spoken prayer in the classroom, hence my request for a citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just so you know, I am contributing to the building of this encyclopedia.  In the time I have taken to voice my objection to the lack of sources, have you come up with your own references?--Jimmy 15:26, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes I have.  I've known for years that school prayer was removed from the schools as a result of an atheistic loudmouth named Madalyn Murray O'Hair, who used her son to force her religious beliefs through the Supreme Court in 1962.  The account was also written in the book &amp;quot;Let Us Pray&amp;quot;, by William Murray, an evangelical pastor who was O'Hair's tool back then.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Whining about lack of references does not build up this encyclopedia; helping out to fill in the missing holes does, and I expect you to do so.  You don't know because you never bothered to look; you sat there and expected everyone else to do it for you. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:58, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Prayer has not been removed from public schools and anyone that thinks this is the case is seriously misinformed.  O'Hair's lawsuit, ''Murray v. Curlett'', (consolidated with ''Abington Township School District v. Schempp'') declared school sponsored Bible reading in public schools in the United States to be unconstitutional.  The key words here are 'school sponsored'.  Students are allowed to pray as long as it is initiated by them and does not interfere with classes or instruction.  Please reference this court ruling and the additional references I included in the article concerning the opinions of the Clinton and Bush administrations position on public school prayer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::You are referring to my requests for documentation as 'whining'.  Yet all I am trying to do is follow the commandments and guidelines of this encyclopedia.  This is Conservapedia, an organization where the article writers must provide documentation for their articles.  This is not Wikipedia where everyone is entitled to their own opinion without providing references.  What is wrong with insisting that everyone follow the rules and guidelines?  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I'm sure that you noticed that the vast majority of this article has been written by me.  Every word I have written is backed-up by references as required by the commandments.  Yet this doesn't seem to satisfy you, why not?  I've put a significant amount of time into this article and when someone makes an unreferenced assertion, I would like them to provide the same type of references that I am required to.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::If you have an addition to this article or a source that can back-up what is already written, then please contribute your efforts.  Where this article is concerned, all you have done is complain when someone is trying to make valid contributions. --Jimmy 16:28, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry if there was some sort of misunderstanding, but I wasn't aware that all spoken prayer is banned in public schools... would a student making a simple prayer (at a practical time) really be punished for doing so? Perhaps I'm missing another sort of prayer, other than teacher-led, that is also banned? I was just trying to clarify what is actually &amp;quot;forbidden&amp;quot; and where these lines are drawn in most public schools. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 16:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Yes, it is banned.  Surely you know someone who goes to public school, or teaches there????  Anyone, teacher or student, who tries to lead a prayer in school is likely to be disciplined and have that go on his record.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:34, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know people that go to and teach at public schools and prayer is allowed many times during the day, even during class time as long as it does not interfere with instruction.  Yet the article states: ''''Spoken prayer … are expressly forbidden in public schools classrooms during school hours, and teaching of morality is implicitly disfavored.''''  I would like to see a reference that supports that sentence, it seems to be at odds with what I observe and current legal reasoning.--Jimmy 16:50, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ah, yes, I see what you mean Andy... sorry, I didn't mean to overemphasize who it was leading the prayer. In public schools, essentially any prayer beyond individual, inconspicuous prayer on one's own time is banned or strongly discouraged. Perhaps instead of &amp;quot;spoken prayer&amp;quot;... &amp;quot;group prayer&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;collective prayer&amp;quot; might more accurately denote this situation? I'm not sure, the current term seemed a bit confusing - but that might just be me. Anyway, clarify it if you like, thanks for explaining. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 20:34, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Why were my edits reverted?  I've been asking for a reference for the school prayer comments at the top of the page for a while and none were provided.  The comment about prominent Americans not attending public schools since 1962 was deleted because I felt it was a little odd to have that sentence there when it is obvious that it was not true.--Jimmy 13:21, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::There are two lists of prominent Americans educated in public schools.  The second list provides the names of fifteen that were educated after 1962 so why are you insisting that there aren't any prominent Americans educated after 1962?  I am disputing your observation concerning public school prayer because according to George W. Bush and the Department of Education, you are wrong, and Bush is far from being a liberal.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I can't find any cites to support your conclusions about public school prayer; that is why I want you to provide them.  If they exist, please show me where, according to the commandments it is your responsibility to do so.  Since Conservapedia is supposed to be &amp;quot;The Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot;, I feel that references should be provided for every alleged fact presented in its pages.  I don't see how that has a liberal stance, facts are facts.--Jimmy 13:40, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just getting worse.  Your reference to the prohibition of the Ten Commandments in public schools is a reference to another Conservapedia article which itself doesn't have a reference.  How is that suppose to work?  And this reference has nothing to do with the alleged prohibition of spoken prayer or teaching of morality.  I'll ask again, can you provide valid references for the following opinions you have made; spoken prayer is prohibited in public schools, school prayer was banned in 1962, and the teaching of morality is disfavored?  According to the commandments of this encyclopedia, you are not providing the proper documentation for most of your opinions expressed in this article and yet I get the feeling you wouldn't tolerate unreferenced edits from me.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Changing the heading of the second list of Americans that attended public schools doesn't make sense.  Of the fifteen people listed, only three can be considered 'celebrities'.  The rest are prominent business men, astronauts, politicians, an aviator and a soldier.  Since only 20% of the people listed are celebrities, how does that add up to 'mostly celebrity'?&lt;br /&gt;
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I get the feeling that I am going to be blocked soon.  I was warned once before about not insisting on people following the rules of this encyclopedia and that I should be expected to look up the references for other people's opinions even if I didn't think they were valid.  I hope I'll be able to make contributions to this website.--Jimmy 20:38, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I would like to write a section about morality in public schools, but what good would it do.  The second sentence of this article claims, without providing any evidence whatsoever, that student prayer in public schools is prohibited and morality implicitly disfavored.  It doesn't matter that I provided plenty of evidence that this assertion is completely without basis.  Unless the second sentence is changed to reflect reality, this article will always look goofy.  The latest reference that Aschlafly supplied actually shows prayer is allowed at public schools.  I quote from the reference, &amp;quot;'''It ended in the spring of 2006 when the Knox County School Board promised in writing to allow students &amp;quot;religious expression&amp;quot; during &amp;quot;discretionary time'''.&amp;quot;  Far from demonstrating that public schools are forbidding prayer, this reference makes it clear that if students are denied the right to pray during non-instructional times, they always have someone that will fight for them and restore their rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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: God bless you for doing that, Dan.  If I could hold classroom prayer to start the class with those kids and get rid of the liberal ideology, I could double that graduation rate.  But the liberals won't allow it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:42, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''Why'' is it wrong to suggest that working with a group of students who are at roughly the same level will enable lessons to be tailored to that level?  Why is it wrong to suggest that students who excel in English, in science, or in mathematics be given the chance to excel and to push beyond the baseline curriculum?  ''That'' is how other countries produce better-educated engineers and scientists: they don't try to educate everyone to the same level.&lt;br /&gt;
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Apologies for the rant, but as a teacher in a public school myself, I'm frequently frustrated by having my hands tied.  --[[User:Benp|Benp]] 20:30, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A suggestion about references ==&lt;br /&gt;
Mr. DeanS:  The references for the claim that public schools are atheistic are downright embarrassing.  The first reference deals with Kennedy's assertion that public schools are atheistic; no need for him to give any evidence, just blah, blah, blah.  The second reference is from WND, that by itself is bad enough, but after taking 30 seconds to read the article, I actually laughed out loud for a few seconds.  I don't quite understand, the reference says the school is allowing football players to pray as a group, and this is your evidence that public schools are atheistic?  I thought public school students weren't allowed to pray in public schools?  That is the completely unsupported claim made by one of the editors of this article.  Yet you posted a reference that stated kids are allowed to pray?  The third reference actually said students have the right to pray during discretionary time.  It stated at the beginning of the article, ''&amp;quot;It ended in the spring of 2006 when the Knox County School Board promised in writing to allow students &amp;quot;religious expression&amp;quot; during &amp;quot;discretionary time.&amp;quot;''  And you insist on saying this is a quality reference for your assertion that public schools are atheistic?  Please give me a break.  You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported that is.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This article is a complete piece of junk because it has so many contradicting claims.  Every claim that public schools are atheistic or doesn't teach morals is backed up with lousy references that don't support the claim while the entries I wrote used reliable references.  Is there any chance this article can be edited to reflect reality?  I realize some people just can't grasp the concept that students in America's secular public schools are allowed to pray, out loud, even during classes, and are allowed to read the Ten Commandments, etc.  I know this because this is what happens at every public school my children have attended and this is what our current president even says.  Now if you want to claim Bush doesn't know what he is talking about, go right ahead and say he is a clueless fool for insisting that public school students don't have the religious freedoms he claims.  But please post intelligent and meaningful references, if they can be found, that way this encyclopedia won't look ignorant.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 00:19, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jimmy, don't make emotional arguments to promote an editorial suggestion; as you say, it's embarrassing. Follow your own advice, such as, &amp;quot;You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported . . .&amp;quot; --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:13, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Uh. Jimmy's post is dated '''&amp;quot;June 11, 2008&amp;quot;'''. As you say he says, it's embarrassing. Jimmy has also been banned for all eternity more than two weeks ago. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 19:01, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Atheistic and secular==&lt;br /&gt;
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The secularism of the US public schools promotes atheism. Let's not pretend otherwise. [[User:Human]], you do indeed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Public_schools&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=507180 risk your editing rights] to assert otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you can find support for religion in any public school, you may add that to the counterexamples section (or start such a section). But the trend is clearly toward [[Atheism]], a positive '''denial''' of the existence of [[God]], along with [[Materialism]], an explicit denial of the reality of the [[supernatural]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Do not use edit summaries as a debate forum. You know better than this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:11, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''The secularism of the US public schools promotes atheism.''  This, I think may be true.  But that's a different thing from saying the schools ARE atheist.  If you take a look at the US Dept of Ed's Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;US Dept of Ed's Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools[http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/religionandschools/prayer_guidance.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is the government's official word on the subject, you get a pretty good idea of the governing principals and where the line is supposed to be drawn.  (Of course, there are always school districts here and there who step over the line one way or another, usually with much fanfare in the press.  This doesn't, however, change the fact that schools are ''supposed'' to follow the guidelines set forth by the Dept of Ed.)  Some highlights:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''''The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the First Amendment requires public school officials to be neutral in their treatment of religion, showing neither favoritism toward nor hostility against religious expression such as prayer.'''''  This, I would argue, is pretty much the definition of &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;.  It's certainly not atheist.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Accordingly, the First Amendment '''forbids religious activity that is sponsored by the government''' but '''protects religious activity that is initiated by private individuals''', and the line between government-sponsored and privately initiated religious expression is vital to a proper understanding of the First Amendment's scope. As the Court has explained in several cases, &amp;quot;there is a crucial difference between government speech endorsing religion, which the Establishment Clause forbids, and private speech endorsing religion, which the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses protect.&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Although the Constitution forbids public school officials from directing or favoring prayer, students do not &amp;quot;shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate,&amp;quot; and the Supreme Court has made clear that &amp;quot;private religious speech, far from being a First Amendment orphan, is as fully protected under the Free Speech Clause as secular private expression.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''&amp;quot;nothing in the Constitution ... prohibits any public school student from voluntarily praying at any time before, during, or after the school day,&amp;quot; and students may pray with fellow students during the school day on the same terms and conditions that they may engage in other conversation or speech.&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Prayer During Noninstructional Time - Students may pray when not engaged in school activities or instruction, subject to the same rules designed to prevent material disruption of the educational program that are applied to other privately initiated expressive activities. Among other things, students may read their Bibles or other scriptures, say grace before meals, and pray or study religious materials with fellow students during recess, the lunch hour, or other noninstructional time to the same extent that they may engage in nonreligious activities.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Organized Prayer Groups and Activities - Students may organize prayer groups, religious clubs, and &amp;quot;see you at the pole&amp;quot; gatherings before school to the same extent that students are permitted to organize other non-curricular student activities groups. Such groups must be given the same access to school facilities for assembling as is given to other non-curricular groups, without discrimination because of the religious content of their expression.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Teachers, Administrators, and other School Employees - Teachers may take part in religious activities where the overall context makes clear that they are not participating in their official capacities. Before school or during lunch, for example, teachers may meet with other teachers for prayer or Bible study to the same extent that they may engage in other conversation or nonreligious activities. Similarly, teachers may participate in their personal capacities in privately sponsored baccalaureate ceremonies.''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Moments of Silence - If a school has a &amp;quot;minute of silence&amp;quot; or other quiet periods during the school day, students are free to pray silently, or not to pray, during these periods of time.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Religious Expression and Prayer in Class Assignments - Students may express their beliefs about religion in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions.''&lt;br /&gt;
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I think &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is the more accurate term, despite a few examples of schools which mistakenly restricted students' rights to prayer. Trends away from secularism, and so on, can be described in a paragraph later in the entry. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 17:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Secular&amp;quot; means: &amp;quot;1 a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal &amp;lt;secular concerns&amp;gt; b: not overtly or specifically religious &amp;lt;secular music&amp;gt; c: not ecclesiastical or clerical &amp;lt;secular courts&amp;gt; &amp;lt;secular landowners&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secular]&lt;br /&gt;
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: None of those definitions describes the overwhelmingly [[atheistic]] leadership and culture of [[public schools]].  Students are more likely to hear God mentioned or worshiped in an atheistic country than in a public school.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:50, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Nitpick: My Circular Reasoning sense is tingling: You look at a definition for &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;, realize that it doesn't meet your assumption that the public schools are atheistic (and not secular) and then conclude that &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is not the right word. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 18:57, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Late comment: I'd prefer the term &amp;quot;nontheistic.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Atheistic&amp;quot; implies explicit denial of the existence of a higher being; &amp;quot;nontheistic&amp;quot; implies that the schools just don't address the concept. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 14:59, 16 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Removal of Section on Famous Americans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are ''so'' many things wrong with the section on famous Americans who have attended public school. How do you define &amp;quot;attended&amp;quot;: is it graduates only, or those who have spent even a day in a public institution? How do you define &amp;quot;prominent American&amp;quot;? Politicians, musicians, artists, owners of large corporations, athletes, who counts? Also, note that the list would probably require several hundred pages, considering that virtually ever American who has a graduate-level education (GED-worthy) attended a public school, including a vast, vast majority of Americans that would be considered &amp;quot;prominent.&amp;quot; And what's up with that statistic that claims that fewer prominent Americans have come out of the public school system since prayer was banned? There is absolutely no way that a claim like that can be tested, measured, or even looked at in a serious light. I vote to delete the section entirely. And mind you I have many, many friends who graduated from the public school system who are doing just fine, which is remarkable considering that I live in Los Angeles, which has one of the highest dropout rates in the country. I remember my mother still works at a particularly prominent school in Hollywood, and at the end of each year she takes several students who graduated out to lunch to congratulate them because it's such an achievement at some schools in the city. I don't think that has anything to do with prayer though (religious children fail to graduate just as often as secular ones). -[[User:Ilikecake|Ilikecake]] 17:04, 11 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Statistics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*A few comments on the recently-added statistics:&lt;br /&gt;
:*Illegal drugs: The survey that statistic comes from includes both public and private schools. (See [http://monitoringthefuture.org/purpose.html])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teen pregnancy: The number is for one city in Virginia, and makes no distinction between public school, private school, and homeschooled teens.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Obesity: A similar comment.  The number is for one school district.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mental health: According to [http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter3/sec1.html#table3_1 this] government website, an estimated 20% of people 9-17 years old have some sort of mental disorder.  Since the source for the &amp;quot;almost 10%&amp;quot; statistic (I think it would be better just to say 8%, by the way) doesn't say what exactly it means by &amp;quot;mental health issues,&amp;quot; there's really no way to determine what the significance of the number is.  Also, that number is for one school district.  It's not enough data to say the number applies to public school students in general.&lt;br /&gt;
:Usual disclaimers apply. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 20:34, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Any study that includes public and private schools is going to be 90% public school, so the private school distinction is insignificant.  If anything, private schools are better, which makes the real public school statistic ''even worse'' than reported.  The teen pregnancy statistic is for public and private schools, not homeschoolers (where teen pregnancy rates are virtually 0).  The government estimate on mental health is interesting but does not change the school statistic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:57, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*The teen pregnancy statistic is for all teens in the relevant area - which includes homeschoolers. (You can find the data from [http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/HealthStats/stats.asp#data this page] on the VA department of health's website.  Under &amp;quot;Data Tables,&amp;quot; pick either 2007 table from the Teenage Pregnancies drop-down box.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*No, the estimate doesn't change the school statistic; however, it does change its significance.&lt;br /&gt;
:::*You have failed to address my comments regarding the samples.  Except for the illegal drugs statistic and the government mental health statistic, all the numbers I mentioned come from samples that were relatively small and not particularly diverse; you can't just assume those statistics are equal to those for the general public school population. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 21:06, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: You only challenge 4 out of the 11 points, and one of your 4 (the obesity statistic) can hardly be disputed.  Just look at how fat public school kids are.  Maybe the statistic is slightly off, but I could find 5 stories in 60 seconds decrying the obesity in public school kids.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: And that illustrates the problem with your comments.  You're not showing a genuine interest in the crisis when you deny facts that you could easily confirm yourself and improve the entry with additional references.  I'm not here to persuade someone determined not to be persuaded.  I already suggest to parents that they get their kids out of public school, and yet still try to help those stuck in the system and still look for ways to improve the system for the kids.  You, however, seem determined ''not'' to help.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:15, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Because I don't challenge all of the statistics, my criticisms can't be taken seriously?  Also, note that all I deny is that you are correctly interpreting the statistics.  Finally, you still haven't responded to my comments regarding the samples. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 21:34, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Where is your proof? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you insert that 77% statistic into the [[public school]] article? The article provided did not say that statistic. Where is your proof?&lt;br /&gt;
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:After reading the sources from the statistics, I have a major problems with what the article is claiming to have evidence of:&lt;br /&gt;
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:1.One source says &amp;quot;In 1991, 62 percent had used illicit drugs. In 2007, the number jumped to 77 percent.&amp;quot; (it is the link with the number &amp;quot;6&amp;quot;). However, this does '''not''' mean &amp;quot;77% do illegal drugs&amp;quot;, as stated in the article. It simply means that, at one point in their life, 77% '''have done''' drugs. The difference in verb tense makes a huge difference. Note that &amp;quot;have done&amp;quot; can be anything as small as having one drink ''in their entire life'' or smoking marijuana ''once''.&lt;br /&gt;
:2.I was unable to find where the pregnancy rate of 10% came from. I read the entire article sourced for the statistic twice and was unable to find it. The only thing close to it was &amp;quot;In a school of 2,211 students, there are at least 70 girls who are soon-to-be or already mothers.&amp;quot; This indicates a pregnancy rate of 3%, not 10%. Also, the statistic of about half getting abortions is not representative of the population, as there was only a sample size of 200 from Alexandria in Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
:3.Also, the article sourced for &amp;quot;nearly 10% have mental health problems&amp;quot; specifically states in the second paragraph: &amp;quot;8 percent had mental health issues.&amp;quot; 10% and 8% are huge differences in the world of statistics. There is no problem with stating &amp;quot;8%&amp;quot;. Also, the study was on students in a Memphis school district. This means that the statistic is unable to be extrapolated to all of American public school students. Memphis students are not representative of the entire population of students, so no such claim is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
:4.The same goes for the 35% said to be obese. (Added in after originally posted &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:23, 2 January 2009 (EST))&lt;br /&gt;
:5.The same error just mentioned is committed when stating &amp;quot;20% go on dangerous &amp;quot;binge drinking,&amp;quot; and 50% drink illegally&amp;quot;. The statistic cited is for ''Ottowa County'' in Michigan. (not representative of the entire population)&lt;br /&gt;
:6.An even more egregious error is committed concerning the number of students who watch more than 3 hours of television. The national average that the source refers to '''is''' public school students. The 60% statistic is for ''Memphis'' students. The 35% is the national average for public school students.&lt;br /&gt;
:7.On bullying, the source states &amp;quot;Nationally, about 160,000 students miss school daily because they fear being bullied&amp;quot;. When checking this, the source is '''completely''' wrong:&lt;br /&gt;
::*http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/09/06/bullies/index.html&lt;br /&gt;
::If you want a source that is not CNN, then:&lt;br /&gt;
::*http://books.google.com/books?id=D_LpPNZt3iMC&amp;amp;pg=PA461&amp;amp;lpg=PA461&amp;amp;dq=160,000+students+bully+one+day+year&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=Ycyex5n4s6&amp;amp;sig=qlrlKQNjNIOScUryWSg048NbSlE&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;resnum=8&amp;amp;ct=result&lt;br /&gt;
:In reality, it is &amp;quot;Every year more than 160,000 students report missing some school because they are afraid.&amp;quot; (added after originally posted &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:32, 2 January 2009 (EST)) It is not ''every day'', but at least some every year. This includes simply ''being late'' in ''one day'' the entire year.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Overall, the sources seem to be taken from where public schools are doing the '''worst''' rather than average public schools. The sample sizes are extremely small and are taken specifically from the regions where public schools are doing the worst. These are not representative of how the entire public school system is doing. The statistics have either been gravely misinterpreted or are being misconstrued on purpose by the person who wrote that part of the article. The article is very misleading.&lt;br /&gt;
:I hope this is fixed soon. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:19, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In response to point 1 above, drugs are addictive.  Very few people do drugs only once.  In response to point 2 above, please realize that boys don't get pregnant, and half of pregnant high school girls get an [[abortion]].&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Guys, I stopped there.  Raise the quality of your criticisms, please, if you want a response.  And pick your best criticism rather than pretending that quantity is a substitute for quality.  It isn't.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:47, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's too bad.  Numbers six and seven seem valid, if not the others.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 22:00, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to help paint a clear statistical picture of US public schools, I'm ready to help. I know enough math (and logic) to keep both sides honest. But I'll tell you from the start, liberals are much more likely to make math errors and to believe what they want - than conservatives. The way they treat [[John Lott]] is a case in point. Another example is how many children &amp;quot;go to bed hungry each night&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember, the figures do not lie, but &amp;quot;liars figure&amp;quot;. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:45, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm guessing a good place to start would be to read the points that Andy won't. [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 22:52, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: No, Liam, a good place to start is to admit the basic errors in the criticism and take steps to prevent recurrence of more errors like them.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 22:54, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You already said you didn't read the whole thing.  You say the first two are flawed, ok.  But you literally can't know if there are errors in the rest.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 22:56, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Looks like a few people are trying to edit this page at the same time.  Between this and my initial screw-up with providing references, I think my edit should be alright.  I'll work on some more names later.--Jimmy 14:45, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh my bad. I hate it when people edit conflict me so I always try to wait, but I guess I wated too long. I'm not sure why you undid the formatting though. In general we bullet any lists because it's so much easier to read. I'll chalk it up to an edit conflict and undo it. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 15:12, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheistic Public Schools? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Public schools are not atheistic institutions. Just because they obey the constitution and don't promote prayer, it doesn't make them atheistic. In addition, they don't promote atheism at all, they merely don't promote religion. If no one minds, I'll remove the first section from the article.--[[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 19:17, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree completely. Saying that because public schools do not preach christianity means that they are &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; is ridiculous. Aren't conservatives the ones who say parents should educate their children about morals, not the government? Schools should teach math, science, history, writing, art, and foreign language and leave the rest for people to decide on their own. ''That'' is limited government. --[[User:Mars2035|Mars2035]] 21:21, 18 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My high school had agnostic students--thought they were atheist--with many Christian/Catholic teachers. +_+ &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;always tired&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; [[User:Kektklik|Kektk]] 14:03, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Religion is censored from [[public schools]]:  there is no classroom prayer, no religious symbols, no emphasize on moral right and wrong, etc.  Sure, students may be agnostic or religious, but they better not try to say a group prayer during class time or they risk being punished.  That's an atheistic culture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Mr Schlafly:  It is one thing to assert something and another to actually provide a reference.  Is there any chance you could provide a valid reference that states American public schools are atheistic?  In my daughter's school, students are allowed to pray during class hours, moral values are taught and emphasized during civics and other classes, and she has never seen anyone punished for praying.  The atheist tag you are placing on this article wouldn't be constantly challenged if you could provide a solid reference.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 16:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: There is no classroom prayer in any [[public school]] in the [[United States]].  Does that really need a reference?  No morals are taught either and no religious symbols are displayed.  The [[Ten Commandments]] cannot be found either.  References could be supplied for these obvious facts; indeed, you could add them yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:45, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Mr. Schlafly:  Please reference my last comment.  There is obviously prayer allowed and morals taught at my daughter's PUBLIC SCHOOL which is in AMERICA so you are wrong about asserting, without evidence, that prayer in public schools is prohibited in America.  And yes, your assertion needs a reference because it flies in the face of every statement issued by the Clinton and Bush administrations concerning prayer in public schools.  This is even mentioned in the article.  I even posted other evidence concerning the opinions of many civil liberties groups and their support of the constitutional right of students to pray in public school but you declared that edit was 'liberal' and deleted it.  Now if you want to insist that both Clinton and Bush are completely wrong and the advice they got from their legal advisors is completely without merit, please post a valid reference that disputes the opinions of our country's leaders and legal experts.  I don't have the slightest clue where I would find a reference that supports what you are claiming or I would gladly assist.  Please provide the reference to your assertion so we can all lay this matter to rest. --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 17:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article states that public schools are &amp;quot;atheistic,&amp;quot; and atheism is defined by this encyclopedia as the denial of the existence of God. I don't mean to get overly technical here, but it seems illogical that a broadly defined institution such as American public schools could be said to deny the existence of God, unless there has been some statement (or a rash of statements) that I am not aware of (and is not cited) on behalf of public schools specifically denying that God exists. The thrust of this article seems to be not that public schools are atheistic but that they are Godless institutions, lacking in the moral fundamentals of religion and defining themselves as expressly secular. Therefore, I am changing &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; in the header.  [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 12:43, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Public schools are not &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;, which means reflective of society as a whole.  Rather, they are deliberately exclusive of faith, morality and religion.  &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; is a pejorative term, and atheistic is better because it encompasses atheistic ideologies like evolution that are taught in schools.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:11, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I suppose you're right, although &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is often used to mean &amp;quot;exclusive of religion.&amp;quot; Yes, &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; is a pejorative, but so is &amp;quot;atheistic,&amp;quot; as least as it is defined in this encyclopedia. I also contest that evolution is an (exclusively) atheistic ideology, as many scientists who believe in evolution are theists. Finally, do you have any citations to support the fact that public schools specifically deny the existence of God, or are you using &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; more as a catch-all to describe the godless mindset in general (and, if so, I'd like a better definition of the term). [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 13:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There may or may not be theistic evolutionists, but evolution is predominantly an atheistic ideology.   Ditto for other things taught in public school, such as materialism.  Schools are not merely &amp;quot;godless&amp;quot;, as they exclude teaching of &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot;.  The term &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is misused to mean &amp;quot;exclusive of religion.&amp;quot;  That is not its actual meaning.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:42, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Sorry, just one more point here, regarding the definition of &amp;quot;secular:&amp;quot; according to dictionary.com, which may not be the best source, the first 3 definitions specifically mean &amp;quot;non-religious&amp;quot; and there is no definition given for &amp;quot;reflective of a society as a whole.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 14:13, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: I just checked Merriam-Webster and ''none'' of the definitions mean &amp;quot;non-religious.&amp;quot; [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secular]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:02, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: As usual, I hate to differ with you, but 'I' just checked Merriam-Webster, and the first two definitions say &amp;quot;non-religious.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 20:01, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: Not to beat a dead horse, BUT the definition I'm seeing on Merriam-Webster.com says this: &amp;quot;1 a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal &amp;lt;secular concerns&amp;gt; b: not overtly or specifically religious &amp;lt;secular music&amp;gt; c: not ecclesiastical or clerical &amp;lt;secular courts&amp;gt; &amp;lt;secular landowners&amp;gt;&amp;quot; thus clearly defining secular as equivalent to nonreligious or nonspiritual. The next definition gets at more of the nondenominational meaning, but I don't see how you can say that this does not mean nonreligious. Furthermore, a search on Merriam-Webster's Thesaurus defines &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;not involving religion or religious matters &amp;lt;that's an issue for the secular authorities, not the church&amp;gt;&amp;quot;. On the other hand, I have not seen a single dictionary support your definition of secular as &amp;quot;reflective of society as a whole.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 23:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Non-religious&amp;quot; does not capture the hostility, such as the affirmative censorship of prayer.  A group may be non-religious and still allow, and even welcome, an occasional prayer.  But an atheistic culture censors the occasional group prayer, as public schools do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:54, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think this is a good point, but what I want to know is why you want to characterize hostility toward religion on the part of public schools (an unsourced pejorative), yet you won't use &amp;quot;godless&amp;quot; on the grounds that it is pejorative. Also, I was hoping for an answer to the other concerns I brought up, and if I may add one more to that: you say that &amp;quot;Schools are not merely godless, as they exclude teaching of right and wrong,&amp;quot; but don't you think that being godless inherently suggests the lack of morality, in the same way that atheism does? Again, you need to cite some sources to describe this broader atheistic lifestyle you seem to be describing. [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 14:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As I've said before (I think, but I'm too lazy to check), I'd prefer &amp;quot;nontheistic&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;atheistic.&amp;quot;  Usual disclaimers apply. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 22:16, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: [[Public schools]] are hostile to more than [[God]], such as right and wrong, and promote (false) ideologies that lead students to [[atheism]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:37, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Not that anything on this site is remotely correct (I thought this site was a joke when I read the Obama &amp;quot;article&amp;quot;...it still could be for all I know), but public education is something I just gotta take a stand on. No one knows better than someone who's been through 11.5 years of it. And if anyone's wondering, I live in the conservative state of SC, smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt. So don't tell me my surroundings influence my opinions, because they don't. I know this comment (or parts of it) will be deleted/altered shortly after it is posted (because I don't agree with you...very fair, I know), but I hope at least one diehard conservative reads this and realizes that not every issue can be defended from his upper-middle class white Christian Hummer-driving viewpoint. If anyone would like to discuss my contribution further on an unbiased, uncensored, free medium, my AIM name is kevh89 and my e-mail address is Nivek_04085@yahoo.com. So much for access to Conservapedia, because like a dissenter in communist Russia, I will probably be exiled from the IP for disagreeing. I'll just have to log in on a friends' computer for my daily laughs. This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; is an insult to education. [[User:Frogmaster13|Frogmaster13]] 21:58, 15 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to see evidence for the assertion that public schools are atheistic and spoken prayer is forbidden in the classroom.  The idea that this should be present without a reference goes against the standards of this encyclopedia.--Jimmy 13:56, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Then go ahead and help find it.  If I can find such references within the time it takes you to complain about the lack of them, then you can find them as well and help contribute to the building of this encyclopedia.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It is my understanding that the person making the claim needs to provide the source documentation.  For the record, I do not know of any reputable source that claims the American public school system is atheistic.  Nor do I know of any law or court decision that prohibits all spoken prayer in the classroom, hence my request for a citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just so you know, I am contributing to the building of this encyclopedia.  In the time I have taken to voice my objection to the lack of sources, have you come up with your own references?--Jimmy 15:26, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes I have.  I've known for years that school prayer was removed from the schools as a result of an atheistic loudmouth named Madalyn Murray O'Hair, who used her son to force her religious beliefs through the Supreme Court in 1962.  The account was also written in the book &amp;quot;Let Us Pray&amp;quot;, by William Murray, an evangelical pastor who was O'Hair's tool back then.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Whining about lack of references does not build up this encyclopedia; helping out to fill in the missing holes does, and I expect you to do so.  You don't know because you never bothered to look; you sat there and expected everyone else to do it for you. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:58, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Prayer has not been removed from public schools and anyone that thinks this is the case is seriously misinformed.  O'Hair's lawsuit, ''Murray v. Curlett'', (consolidated with ''Abington Township School District v. Schempp'') declared school sponsored Bible reading in public schools in the United States to be unconstitutional.  The key words here are 'school sponsored'.  Students are allowed to pray as long as it is initiated by them and does not interfere with classes or instruction.  Please reference this court ruling and the additional references I included in the article concerning the opinions of the Clinton and Bush administrations position on public school prayer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::You are referring to my requests for documentation as 'whining'.  Yet all I am trying to do is follow the commandments and guidelines of this encyclopedia.  This is Conservapedia, an organization where the article writers must provide documentation for their articles.  This is not Wikipedia where everyone is entitled to their own opinion without providing references.  What is wrong with insisting that everyone follow the rules and guidelines?  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I'm sure that you noticed that the vast majority of this article has been written by me.  Every word I have written is backed-up by references as required by the commandments.  Yet this doesn't seem to satisfy you, why not?  I've put a significant amount of time into this article and when someone makes an unreferenced assertion, I would like them to provide the same type of references that I am required to.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::If you have an addition to this article or a source that can back-up what is already written, then please contribute your efforts.  Where this article is concerned, all you have done is complain when someone is trying to make valid contributions. --Jimmy 16:28, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry if there was some sort of misunderstanding, but I wasn't aware that all spoken prayer is banned in public schools... would a student making a simple prayer (at a practical time) really be punished for doing so? Perhaps I'm missing another sort of prayer, other than teacher-led, that is also banned? I was just trying to clarify what is actually &amp;quot;forbidden&amp;quot; and where these lines are drawn in most public schools. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 16:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Yes, it is banned.  Surely you know someone who goes to public school, or teaches there????  Anyone, teacher or student, who tries to lead a prayer in school is likely to be disciplined and have that go on his record.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:34, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know people that go to and teach at public schools and prayer is allowed many times during the day, even during class time as long as it does not interfere with instruction.  Yet the article states: ''''Spoken prayer … are expressly forbidden in public schools classrooms during school hours, and teaching of morality is implicitly disfavored.''''  I would like to see a reference that supports that sentence, it seems to be at odds with what I observe and current legal reasoning.--Jimmy 16:50, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ah, yes, I see what you mean Andy... sorry, I didn't mean to overemphasize who it was leading the prayer. In public schools, essentially any prayer beyond individual, inconspicuous prayer on one's own time is banned or strongly discouraged. Perhaps instead of &amp;quot;spoken prayer&amp;quot;... &amp;quot;group prayer&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;collective prayer&amp;quot; might more accurately denote this situation? I'm not sure, the current term seemed a bit confusing - but that might just be me. Anyway, clarify it if you like, thanks for explaining. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 20:34, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Why were my edits reverted?  I've been asking for a reference for the school prayer comments at the top of the page for a while and none were provided.  The comment about prominent Americans not attending public schools since 1962 was deleted because I felt it was a little odd to have that sentence there when it is obvious that it was not true.--Jimmy 13:21, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The list shows that the only prominent Americans were educated before 1962, and there is no disputing the observation about prayer being banned at public schools, along with the Ten Commandments.  You can easily find cites for that if that were your goal.  Deleting factual information for liberal reasons is allowed at Wikipedia, but not here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:24, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::There are two lists of prominent Americans educated in public schools.  The second list provides the names of fifteen that were educated after 1962 so why are you insisting that there aren't any prominent Americans educated after 1962?  I am disputing your observation concerning public school prayer because according to George W. Bush and the Department of Education, you are wrong, and Bush is far from being a liberal.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I can't find any cites to support your conclusions about public school prayer; that is why I want you to provide them.  If they exist, please show me where, according to the commandments it is your responsibility to do so.  Since Conservapedia is supposed to be &amp;quot;The Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot;, I feel that references should be provided for every alleged fact presented in its pages.  I don't see how that has a liberal stance, facts are facts.--Jimmy 13:40, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Um, last time I checked, only teacher led/mandatory prayer in schools was banned. Students/Teachers can pray, however, they can't be disruptive to the class or make others pray that don't want to. Anyways, then there is the matter of which religion's prayers/worship style should be used. That would show favoritism to one religion and annoy other people who get offended. This leads to either having the class do prayers, etc.. of every religion or not having any prayer mandatory. The first option is infeasible because it would detract from time that could be used to learn subject material. So that is why teacher led/mandatory prayer isn't allowed in public schools. Willing individuals can pray together, however it must not be a distraction to a class. This is my two cents.[[User:JudgeKing|JudgeKing]] 13:00, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just getting worse.  Your reference to the prohibition of the Ten Commandments in public schools is a reference to another Conservapedia article which itself doesn't have a reference.  How is that suppose to work?  And this reference has nothing to do with the alleged prohibition of spoken prayer or teaching of morality.  I'll ask again, can you provide valid references for the following opinions you have made; spoken prayer is prohibited in public schools, school prayer was banned in 1962, and the teaching of morality is disfavored?  According to the commandments of this encyclopedia, you are not providing the proper documentation for most of your opinions expressed in this article and yet I get the feeling you wouldn't tolerate unreferenced edits from me.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Changing the heading of the second list of Americans that attended public schools doesn't make sense.  Of the fifteen people listed, only three can be considered 'celebrities'.  The rest are prominent business men, astronauts, politicians, an aviator and a soldier.  Since only 20% of the people listed are celebrities, how does that add up to 'mostly celebrity'?&lt;br /&gt;
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I get the feeling that I am going to be blocked soon.  I was warned once before about not insisting on people following the rules of this encyclopedia and that I should be expected to look up the references for other people's opinions even if I didn't think they were valid.  I hope I'll be able to make contributions to this website.--Jimmy 20:38, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I would like to write a section about morality in public schools, but what good would it do.  The second sentence of this article claims, without providing any evidence whatsoever, that student prayer in public schools is prohibited and morality implicitly disfavored.  It doesn't matter that I provided plenty of evidence that this assertion is completely without basis.  Unless the second sentence is changed to reflect reality, this article will always look goofy.  The latest reference that Aschlafly supplied actually shows prayer is allowed at public schools.  I quote from the reference, &amp;quot;'''It ended in the spring of 2006 when the Knox County School Board promised in writing to allow students &amp;quot;religious expression&amp;quot; during &amp;quot;discretionary time'''.&amp;quot;  Far from demonstrating that public schools are forbidding prayer, this reference makes it clear that if students are denied the right to pray during non-instructional times, they always have someone that will fight for them and restore their rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at the edits I made earlier that were reverted.  Notice how many times 'atheistic' was replaced with 'secular' before it wasn't reverted.  A list showing a broad coalition of civil liberties groups supporting public school prayer was removed for being 'liberal'.  I've had no luck removing the 'disclaimer' about prominent Americans being educated in public schools.  It still states prayer is banned and no 'prominent Americans' have been educated in public schools even though I have demonstrated otherwise.  I've made continuous requests for references to support the opinions expressed in the second sentence of this article only to be ignored and threatened.  Will you offer any assurance that what I write will not be summarily dismissed?  I'd hate to waste my time.--Jimmy 00:07, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: God bless you for doing that, Dan.  If I could hold classroom prayer to start the class with those kids and get rid of the liberal ideology, I could double that graduation rate.  But the liberals won't allow it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:42, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. DeanS:  The references for the claim that public schools are atheistic are downright embarrassing.  The first reference deals with Kennedy's assertion that public schools are atheistic; no need for him to give any evidence, just blah, blah, blah.  The second reference is from WND, that by itself is bad enough, but after taking 30 seconds to read the article, I actually laughed out loud for a few seconds.  I don't quite understand, the reference says the school is allowing football players to pray as a group, and this is your evidence that public schools are atheistic?  I thought public school students weren't allowed to pray in public schools?  That is the completely unsupported claim made by one of the editors of this article.  Yet you posted a reference that stated kids are allowed to pray?  The third reference actually said students have the right to pray during discretionary time.  It stated at the beginning of the article, ''&amp;quot;It ended in the spring of 2006 when the Knox County School Board promised in writing to allow students &amp;quot;religious expression&amp;quot; during &amp;quot;discretionary time.&amp;quot;''  And you insist on saying this is a quality reference for your assertion that public schools are atheistic?  Please give me a break.  You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported that is.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This article is a complete piece of junk because it has so many contradicting claims.  Every claim that public schools are atheistic or doesn't teach morals is backed up with lousy references that don't support the claim while the entries I wrote used reliable references.  Is there any chance this article can be edited to reflect reality?  I realize some people just can't grasp the concept that students in America's secular public schools are allowed to pray, out loud, even during classes, and are allowed to read the Ten Commandments, etc.  I know this because this is what happens at every public school my children have attended and this is what our current president even says.  Now if you want to claim Bush doesn't know what he is talking about, go right ahead and say he is a clueless fool for insisting that public school students don't have the religious freedoms he claims.  But please post intelligent and meaningful references, if they can be found, that way this encyclopedia won't look ignorant.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 00:19, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jimmy, don't make emotional arguments to promote an editorial suggestion; as you say, it's embarrassing. Follow your own advice, such as, &amp;quot;You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported . . .&amp;quot; --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:13, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Uh. Jimmy's post is dated '''&amp;quot;June 11, 2008&amp;quot;'''. As you say he says, it's embarrassing. Jimmy has also been banned for all eternity more than two weeks ago. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 19:01, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Atheistic and secular==&lt;br /&gt;
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The secularism of the US public schools promotes atheism. Let's not pretend otherwise. [[User:Human]], you do indeed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Public_schools&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=507180 risk your editing rights] to assert otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;
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If you can find support for religion in any public school, you may add that to the counterexamples section (or start such a section). But the trend is clearly toward [[Atheism]], a positive '''denial''' of the existence of [[God]], along with [[Materialism]], an explicit denial of the reality of the [[supernatural]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Do not use edit summaries as a debate forum. You know better than this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:11, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''The secularism of the US public schools promotes atheism.''  This, I think may be true.  But that's a different thing from saying the schools ARE atheist.  If you take a look at the US Dept of Ed's Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;US Dept of Ed's Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools[http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/religionandschools/prayer_guidance.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is the government's official word on the subject, you get a pretty good idea of the governing principals and where the line is supposed to be drawn.  (Of course, there are always school districts here and there who step over the line one way or another, usually with much fanfare in the press.  This doesn't, however, change the fact that schools are ''supposed'' to follow the guidelines set forth by the Dept of Ed.)  Some highlights:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''''The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the First Amendment requires public school officials to be neutral in their treatment of religion, showing neither favoritism toward nor hostility against religious expression such as prayer.'''''  This, I would argue, is pretty much the definition of &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;.  It's certainly not atheist.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Accordingly, the First Amendment '''forbids religious activity that is sponsored by the government''' but '''protects religious activity that is initiated by private individuals''', and the line between government-sponsored and privately initiated religious expression is vital to a proper understanding of the First Amendment's scope. As the Court has explained in several cases, &amp;quot;there is a crucial difference between government speech endorsing religion, which the Establishment Clause forbids, and private speech endorsing religion, which the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses protect.&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Although the Constitution forbids public school officials from directing or favoring prayer, students do not &amp;quot;shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate,&amp;quot; and the Supreme Court has made clear that &amp;quot;private religious speech, far from being a First Amendment orphan, is as fully protected under the Free Speech Clause as secular private expression.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''&amp;quot;nothing in the Constitution ... prohibits any public school student from voluntarily praying at any time before, during, or after the school day,&amp;quot; and students may pray with fellow students during the school day on the same terms and conditions that they may engage in other conversation or speech.&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Prayer During Noninstructional Time - Students may pray when not engaged in school activities or instruction, subject to the same rules designed to prevent material disruption of the educational program that are applied to other privately initiated expressive activities. Among other things, students may read their Bibles or other scriptures, say grace before meals, and pray or study religious materials with fellow students during recess, the lunch hour, or other noninstructional time to the same extent that they may engage in nonreligious activities.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Organized Prayer Groups and Activities - Students may organize prayer groups, religious clubs, and &amp;quot;see you at the pole&amp;quot; gatherings before school to the same extent that students are permitted to organize other non-curricular student activities groups. Such groups must be given the same access to school facilities for assembling as is given to other non-curricular groups, without discrimination because of the religious content of their expression.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Teachers, Administrators, and other School Employees - Teachers may take part in religious activities where the overall context makes clear that they are not participating in their official capacities. Before school or during lunch, for example, teachers may meet with other teachers for prayer or Bible study to the same extent that they may engage in other conversation or nonreligious activities. Similarly, teachers may participate in their personal capacities in privately sponsored baccalaureate ceremonies.''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Moments of Silence - If a school has a &amp;quot;minute of silence&amp;quot; or other quiet periods during the school day, students are free to pray silently, or not to pray, during these periods of time.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Religious Expression and Prayer in Class Assignments - Students may express their beliefs about religion in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions.''&lt;br /&gt;
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I think &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is the more accurate term, despite a few examples of schools which mistakenly restricted students' rights to prayer. Trends away from secularism, and so on, can be described in a paragraph later in the entry. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 17:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Secular&amp;quot; means: &amp;quot;1 a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal &amp;lt;secular concerns&amp;gt; b: not overtly or specifically religious &amp;lt;secular music&amp;gt; c: not ecclesiastical or clerical &amp;lt;secular courts&amp;gt; &amp;lt;secular landowners&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secular]&lt;br /&gt;
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: None of those definitions describes the overwhelmingly [[atheistic]] leadership and culture of [[public schools]].  Students are more likely to hear God mentioned or worshiped in an atheistic country than in a public school.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:50, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Nitpick: My Circular Reasoning sense is tingling: You look at a definition for &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;, realize that it doesn't meet your assumption that the public schools are atheistic (and not secular) and then conclude that &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is not the right word. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 18:57, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Late comment: I'd prefer the term &amp;quot;nontheistic.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Atheistic&amp;quot; implies explicit denial of the existence of a higher being; &amp;quot;nontheistic&amp;quot; implies that the schools just don't address the concept. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 14:59, 16 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Removal of Section on Famous Americans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are ''so'' many things wrong with the section on famous Americans who have attended public school. How do you define &amp;quot;attended&amp;quot;: is it graduates only, or those who have spent even a day in a public institution? How do you define &amp;quot;prominent American&amp;quot;? Politicians, musicians, artists, owners of large corporations, athletes, who counts? Also, note that the list would probably require several hundred pages, considering that virtually ever American who has a graduate-level education (GED-worthy) attended a public school, including a vast, vast majority of Americans that would be considered &amp;quot;prominent.&amp;quot; And what's up with that statistic that claims that fewer prominent Americans have come out of the public school system since prayer was banned? There is absolutely no way that a claim like that can be tested, measured, or even looked at in a serious light. I vote to delete the section entirely. And mind you I have many, many friends who graduated from the public school system who are doing just fine, which is remarkable considering that I live in Los Angeles, which has one of the highest dropout rates in the country. I remember my mother still works at a particularly prominent school in Hollywood, and at the end of each year she takes several students who graduated out to lunch to congratulate them because it's such an achievement at some schools in the city. I don't think that has anything to do with prayer though (religious children fail to graduate just as often as secular ones). -[[User:Ilikecake|Ilikecake]] 17:04, 11 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Illegal drugs: The survey that statistic comes from includes both public and private schools. (See [http://monitoringthefuture.org/purpose.html])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teen pregnancy: The number is for one city in Virginia, and makes no distinction between public school, private school, and homeschooled teens.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Obesity: A similar comment.  The number is for one school district.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mental health: According to [http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter3/sec1.html#table3_1 this] government website, an estimated 20% of people 9-17 years old have some sort of mental disorder.  Since the source for the &amp;quot;almost 10%&amp;quot; statistic (I think it would be better just to say 8%, by the way) doesn't say what exactly it means by &amp;quot;mental health issues,&amp;quot; there's really no way to determine what the significance of the number is.  Also, that number is for one school district.  It's not enough data to say the number applies to public school students in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Any study that includes public and private schools is going to be 90% public school, so the private school distinction is insignificant.  If anything, private schools are better, which makes the real public school statistic ''even worse'' than reported.  The teen pregnancy statistic is for public and private schools, not homeschoolers (where teen pregnancy rates are virtually 0).  The government estimate on mental health is interesting but does not change the school statistic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:57, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*The teen pregnancy statistic is for all teens in the relevant area - which includes homeschoolers. (You can find the data from [http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/HealthStats/stats.asp#data this page] on the VA department of health's website.  Under &amp;quot;Data Tables,&amp;quot; pick either 2007 table from the Teenage Pregnancies drop-down box.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*No, the estimate doesn't change the school statistic; however, it does change its significance.&lt;br /&gt;
:::*You have failed to address my comments regarding the samples.  Except for the illegal drugs statistic and the government mental health statistic, all the numbers I mentioned come from samples that were relatively small and not particularly diverse; you can't just assume those statistics are equal to those for the general public school population. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 21:06, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: You only challenge 4 out of the 11 points, and one of your 4 (the obesity statistic) can hardly be disputed.  Just look at how fat public school kids are.  Maybe the statistic is slightly off, but I could find 5 stories in 60 seconds decrying the obesity in public school kids.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: And that illustrates the problem with your comments.  You're not showing a genuine interest in the crisis when you deny facts that you could easily confirm yourself and improve the entry with additional references.  I'm not here to persuade someone determined not to be persuaded.  I already suggest to parents that they get their kids out of public school, and yet still try to help those stuck in the system and still look for ways to improve the system for the kids.  You, however, seem determined ''not'' to help.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:15, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Because I don't challenge all of the statistics, my criticisms can't be taken seriously?  Also, note that all I deny is that you are correctly interpreting the statistics.  Finally, you still haven't responded to my comments regarding the samples. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 21:34, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Where is your proof? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you insert that 77% statistic into the [[public school]] article? The article provided did not say that statistic. Where is your proof?&lt;br /&gt;
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:1.One source says &amp;quot;In 1991, 62 percent had used illicit drugs. In 2007, the number jumped to 77 percent.&amp;quot; (it is the link with the number &amp;quot;6&amp;quot;). However, this does '''not''' mean &amp;quot;77% do illegal drugs&amp;quot;, as stated in the article. It simply means that, at one point in their life, 77% '''have done''' drugs. The difference in verb tense makes a huge difference. Note that &amp;quot;have done&amp;quot; can be anything as small as having one drink ''in their entire life'' or smoking marijuana ''once''.&lt;br /&gt;
:2.I was unable to find where the pregnancy rate of 10% came from. I read the entire article sourced for the statistic twice and was unable to find it. The only thing close to it was &amp;quot;In a school of 2,211 students, there are at least 70 girls who are soon-to-be or already mothers.&amp;quot; This indicates a pregnancy rate of 3%, not 10%. Also, the statistic of about half getting abortions is not representative of the population, as there was only a sample size of 200 from Alexandria in Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
:3.Also, the article sourced for &amp;quot;nearly 10% have mental health problems&amp;quot; specifically states in the second paragraph: &amp;quot;8 percent had mental health issues.&amp;quot; 10% and 8% are huge differences in the world of statistics. There is no problem with stating &amp;quot;8%&amp;quot;. Also, the study was on students in a Memphis school district. This means that the statistic is unable to be extrapolated to all of American public school students. Memphis students are not representative of the entire population of students, so no such claim is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
:4.The same goes for the 35% said to be obese. (Added in after originally posted &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:23, 2 January 2009 (EST))&lt;br /&gt;
:5.The same error just mentioned is committed when stating &amp;quot;20% go on dangerous &amp;quot;binge drinking,&amp;quot; and 50% drink illegally&amp;quot;. The statistic cited is for ''Ottowa County'' in Michigan. (not representative of the entire population)&lt;br /&gt;
:6.An even more egregious error is committed concerning the number of students who watch more than 3 hours of television. The national average that the source refers to '''is''' public school students. The 60% statistic is for ''Memphis'' students. The 35% is the national average for public school students.&lt;br /&gt;
:7.On bullying, the source states &amp;quot;Nationally, about 160,000 students miss school daily because they fear being bullied&amp;quot;. When checking this, the source is '''completely''' wrong:&lt;br /&gt;
::*http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/09/06/bullies/index.html&lt;br /&gt;
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::*http://books.google.com/books?id=D_LpPNZt3iMC&amp;amp;pg=PA461&amp;amp;lpg=PA461&amp;amp;dq=160,000+students+bully+one+day+year&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=Ycyex5n4s6&amp;amp;sig=qlrlKQNjNIOScUryWSg048NbSlE&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;resnum=8&amp;amp;ct=result&lt;br /&gt;
:In reality, it is &amp;quot;Every year more than 160,000 students report missing some school because they are afraid.&amp;quot; (added after originally posted &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:32, 2 January 2009 (EST)) It is not ''every day'', but at least some every year. This includes simply ''being late'' in ''one day'' the entire year.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Overall, the sources seem to be taken from where public schools are doing the '''worst''' rather than average public schools. The sample sizes are extremely small and are taken specifically from the regions where public schools are doing the worst. These are not representative of how the entire public school system is doing. The statistics have either been gravely misinterpreted or are being misconstrued on purpose by the person who wrote that part of the article. The article is very misleading.&lt;br /&gt;
:I hope this is fixed soon. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:19, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In response to point 1 above, drugs are addictive.  Very few people do drugs only once.  In response to point 2 above, please realize that boys don't get pregnant, and half of pregnant high school girls get an [[abortion]].&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Guys, I stopped there.  Raise the quality of your criticisms, please, if you want a response.  And pick your best criticism rather than pretending that quantity is a substitute for quality.  It isn't.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:47, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's too bad.  Numbers six and seven seem valid, if not the others.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 22:00, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you want to help paint a clear statistical picture of US public schools, I'm ready to help. I know enough math (and logic) to keep both sides honest. But I'll tell you from the start, liberals are much more likely to make math errors and to believe what they want - than conservatives. The way they treat [[John Lott]] is a case in point. Another example is how many children &amp;quot;go to bed hungry each night&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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Remember, the figures do not lie, but &amp;quot;liars figure&amp;quot;. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:45, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I'm guessing a good place to start would be to read the points that Andy won't. [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 22:52, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;Looks like a few people are trying to edit this page at the same time.  Between this and my initial screw-up with providing references, I think my edit should be alright.  I'll work on some more names later.--Jimmy 14:45, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh my bad. I hate it when people edit conflict me so I always try to wait, but I guess I wated too long. I'm not sure why you undid the formatting though. In general we bullet any lists because it's so much easier to read. I'll chalk it up to an edit conflict and undo it. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 15:12, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheistic Public Schools? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Public schools are not atheistic institutions. Just because they obey the constitution and don't promote prayer, it doesn't make them atheistic. In addition, they don't promote atheism at all, they merely don't promote religion. If no one minds, I'll remove the first section from the article.--[[User:Blinkadyblink|Blinkadyblink]] 19:17, 7 December 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree completely. Saying that because public schools do not preach christianity means that they are &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; is ridiculous. Aren't conservatives the ones who say parents should educate their children about morals, not the government? Schools should teach math, science, history, writing, art, and foreign language and leave the rest for people to decide on their own. ''That'' is limited government. --[[User:Mars2035|Mars2035]] 21:21, 18 March 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::My high school had agnostic students--thought they were atheist--with many Christian/Catholic teachers. +_+ &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;always tired&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; [[User:Kektklik|Kektk]] 14:03, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: Religion is censored from [[public schools]]:  there is no classroom prayer, no religious symbols, no emphasize on moral right and wrong, etc.  Sure, students may be agnostic or religious, but they better not try to say a group prayer during class time or they risk being punished.  That's an atheistic culture.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Mr Schlafly:  It is one thing to assert something and another to actually provide a reference.  Is there any chance you could provide a valid reference that states American public schools are atheistic?  In my daughter's school, students are allowed to pray during class hours, moral values are taught and emphasized during civics and other classes, and she has never seen anyone punished for praying.  The atheist tag you are placing on this article wouldn't be constantly challenged if you could provide a solid reference.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 16:09, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: There is no classroom prayer in any [[public school]] in the [[United States]].  Does that really need a reference?  No morals are taught either and no religious symbols are displayed.  The [[Ten Commandments]] cannot be found either.  References could be supplied for these obvious facts; indeed, you could add them yourself.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:45, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Mr. Schlafly:  Please reference my last comment.  There is obviously prayer allowed and morals taught at my daughter's PUBLIC SCHOOL which is in AMERICA so you are wrong about asserting, without evidence, that prayer in public schools is prohibited in America.  And yes, your assertion needs a reference because it flies in the face of every statement issued by the Clinton and Bush administrations concerning prayer in public schools.  This is even mentioned in the article.  I even posted other evidence concerning the opinions of many civil liberties groups and their support of the constitutional right of students to pray in public school but you declared that edit was 'liberal' and deleted it.  Now if you want to insist that both Clinton and Bush are completely wrong and the advice they got from their legal advisors is completely without merit, please post a valid reference that disputes the opinions of our country's leaders and legal experts.  I don't have the slightest clue where I would find a reference that supports what you are claiming or I would gladly assist.  Please provide the reference to your assertion so we can all lay this matter to rest. --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 17:50, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This article states that public schools are &amp;quot;atheistic,&amp;quot; and atheism is defined by this encyclopedia as the denial of the existence of God. I don't mean to get overly technical here, but it seems illogical that a broadly defined institution such as American public schools could be said to deny the existence of God, unless there has been some statement (or a rash of statements) that I am not aware of (and is not cited) on behalf of public schools specifically denying that God exists. The thrust of this article seems to be not that public schools are atheistic but that they are Godless institutions, lacking in the moral fundamentals of religion and defining themselves as expressly secular. Therefore, I am changing &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; in the header.  [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 12:43, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Public schools are not &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;, which means reflective of society as a whole.  Rather, they are deliberately exclusive of faith, morality and religion.  &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; is a pejorative term, and atheistic is better because it encompasses atheistic ideologies like evolution that are taught in schools.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:11, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I suppose you're right, although &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is often used to mean &amp;quot;exclusive of religion.&amp;quot; Yes, &amp;quot;Godless&amp;quot; is a pejorative, but so is &amp;quot;atheistic,&amp;quot; as least as it is defined in this encyclopedia. I also contest that evolution is an (exclusively) atheistic ideology, as many scientists who believe in evolution are theists. Finally, do you have any citations to support the fact that public schools specifically deny the existence of God, or are you using &amp;quot;atheistic&amp;quot; more as a catch-all to describe the godless mindset in general (and, if so, I'd like a better definition of the term). [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 13:34, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: There may or may not be theistic evolutionists, but evolution is predominantly an atheistic ideology.   Ditto for other things taught in public school, such as materialism.  Schools are not merely &amp;quot;godless&amp;quot;, as they exclude teaching of &amp;quot;right&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;wrong&amp;quot;.  The term &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is misused to mean &amp;quot;exclusive of religion.&amp;quot;  That is not its actual meaning.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:42, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Sorry, just one more point here, regarding the definition of &amp;quot;secular:&amp;quot; according to dictionary.com, which may not be the best source, the first 3 definitions specifically mean &amp;quot;non-religious&amp;quot; and there is no definition given for &amp;quot;reflective of a society as a whole.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 14:13, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: I just checked Merriam-Webster and ''none'' of the definitions mean &amp;quot;non-religious.&amp;quot; [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secular]--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:02, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: As usual, I hate to differ with you, but 'I' just checked Merriam-Webster, and the first two definitions say &amp;quot;non-religious.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 20:01, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::: Not to beat a dead horse, BUT the definition I'm seeing on Merriam-Webster.com says this: &amp;quot;1 a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal &amp;lt;secular concerns&amp;gt; b: not overtly or specifically religious &amp;lt;secular music&amp;gt; c: not ecclesiastical or clerical &amp;lt;secular courts&amp;gt; &amp;lt;secular landowners&amp;gt;&amp;quot; thus clearly defining secular as equivalent to nonreligious or nonspiritual. The next definition gets at more of the nondenominational meaning, but I don't see how you can say that this does not mean nonreligious. Furthermore, a search on Merriam-Webster's Thesaurus defines &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; to mean &amp;quot;not involving religion or religious matters &amp;lt;that's an issue for the secular authorities, not the church&amp;gt;&amp;quot;. On the other hand, I have not seen a single dictionary support your definition of secular as &amp;quot;reflective of society as a whole.&amp;quot; [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 23:51, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Non-religious&amp;quot; does not capture the hostility, such as the affirmative censorship of prayer.  A group may be non-religious and still allow, and even welcome, an occasional prayer.  But an atheistic culture censors the occasional group prayer, as public schools do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:54, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I think this is a good point, but what I want to know is why you want to characterize hostility toward religion on the part of public schools (an unsourced pejorative), yet you won't use &amp;quot;godless&amp;quot; on the grounds that it is pejorative. Also, I was hoping for an answer to the other concerns I brought up, and if I may add one more to that: you say that &amp;quot;Schools are not merely godless, as they exclude teaching of right and wrong,&amp;quot; but don't you think that being godless inherently suggests the lack of morality, in the same way that atheism does? Again, you need to cite some sources to describe this broader atheistic lifestyle you seem to be describing. [[User:Kristkrispies|Kristkrispies]] 14:06, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::As I've said before (I think, but I'm too lazy to check), I'd prefer &amp;quot;nontheistic&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;atheistic.&amp;quot;  Usual disclaimers apply. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 22:16, 10 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::: [[Public schools]] are hostile to more than [[God]], such as right and wrong, and promote (false) ideologies that lead students to [[atheism]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 00:37, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Not that anything on this site is remotely correct (I thought this site was a joke when I read the Obama &amp;quot;article&amp;quot;...it still could be for all I know), but public education is something I just gotta take a stand on. No one knows better than someone who's been through 11.5 years of it. And if anyone's wondering, I live in the conservative state of SC, smack dab in the middle of the Bible Belt. So don't tell me my surroundings influence my opinions, because they don't. I know this comment (or parts of it) will be deleted/altered shortly after it is posted (because I don't agree with you...very fair, I know), but I hope at least one diehard conservative reads this and realizes that not every issue can be defended from his upper-middle class white Christian Hummer-driving viewpoint. If anyone would like to discuss my contribution further on an unbiased, uncensored, free medium, my AIM name is kevh89 and my e-mail address is Nivek_04085@yahoo.com. So much for access to Conservapedia, because like a dissenter in communist Russia, I will probably be exiled from the IP for disagreeing. I'll just have to log in on a friends' computer for my daily laughs. This &amp;quot;encyclopedia&amp;quot; is an insult to education. [[User:Frogmaster13|Frogmaster13]] 21:58, 15 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to see evidence for the assertion that public schools are atheistic and spoken prayer is forbidden in the classroom.  The idea that this should be present without a reference goes against the standards of this encyclopedia.--Jimmy 13:56, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Then go ahead and help find it.  If I can find such references within the time it takes you to complain about the lack of them, then you can find them as well and help contribute to the building of this encyclopedia.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 14:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It is my understanding that the person making the claim needs to provide the source documentation.  For the record, I do not know of any reputable source that claims the American public school system is atheistic.  Nor do I know of any law or court decision that prohibits all spoken prayer in the classroom, hence my request for a citation.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Just so you know, I am contributing to the building of this encyclopedia.  In the time I have taken to voice my objection to the lack of sources, have you come up with your own references?--Jimmy 15:26, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Yes I have.  I've known for years that school prayer was removed from the schools as a result of an atheistic loudmouth named Madalyn Murray O'Hair, who used her son to force her religious beliefs through the Supreme Court in 1962.  The account was also written in the book &amp;quot;Let Us Pray&amp;quot;, by William Murray, an evangelical pastor who was O'Hair's tool back then.&lt;br /&gt;
:::Whining about lack of references does not build up this encyclopedia; helping out to fill in the missing holes does, and I expect you to do so.  You don't know because you never bothered to look; you sat there and expected everyone else to do it for you. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 15:58, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Prayer has not been removed from public schools and anyone that thinks this is the case is seriously misinformed.  O'Hair's lawsuit, ''Murray v. Curlett'', (consolidated with ''Abington Township School District v. Schempp'') declared school sponsored Bible reading in public schools in the United States to be unconstitutional.  The key words here are 'school sponsored'.  Students are allowed to pray as long as it is initiated by them and does not interfere with classes or instruction.  Please reference this court ruling and the additional references I included in the article concerning the opinions of the Clinton and Bush administrations position on public school prayer.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::You are referring to my requests for documentation as 'whining'.  Yet all I am trying to do is follow the commandments and guidelines of this encyclopedia.  This is Conservapedia, an organization where the article writers must provide documentation for their articles.  This is not Wikipedia where everyone is entitled to their own opinion without providing references.  What is wrong with insisting that everyone follow the rules and guidelines?  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::I'm sure that you noticed that the vast majority of this article has been written by me.  Every word I have written is backed-up by references as required by the commandments.  Yet this doesn't seem to satisfy you, why not?  I've put a significant amount of time into this article and when someone makes an unreferenced assertion, I would like them to provide the same type of references that I am required to.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::If you have an addition to this article or a source that can back-up what is already written, then please contribute your efforts.  Where this article is concerned, all you have done is complain when someone is trying to make valid contributions. --Jimmy 16:28, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm sorry if there was some sort of misunderstanding, but I wasn't aware that all spoken prayer is banned in public schools... would a student making a simple prayer (at a practical time) really be punished for doing so? Perhaps I'm missing another sort of prayer, other than teacher-led, that is also banned? I was just trying to clarify what is actually &amp;quot;forbidden&amp;quot; and where these lines are drawn in most public schools. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 16:06, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Yes, it is banned.  Surely you know someone who goes to public school, or teaches there????  Anyone, teacher or student, who tries to lead a prayer in school is likely to be disciplined and have that go on his record.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:34, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I know people that go to and teach at public schools and prayer is allowed many times during the day, even during class time as long as it does not interfere with instruction.  Yet the article states: ''''Spoken prayer … are expressly forbidden in public schools classrooms during school hours, and teaching of morality is implicitly disfavored.''''  I would like to see a reference that supports that sentence, it seems to be at odds with what I observe and current legal reasoning.--Jimmy 16:50, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ah, yes, I see what you mean Andy... sorry, I didn't mean to overemphasize who it was leading the prayer. In public schools, essentially any prayer beyond individual, inconspicuous prayer on one's own time is banned or strongly discouraged. Perhaps instead of &amp;quot;spoken prayer&amp;quot;... &amp;quot;group prayer&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;collective prayer&amp;quot; might more accurately denote this situation? I'm not sure, the current term seemed a bit confusing - but that might just be me. Anyway, clarify it if you like, thanks for explaining. [[User:Feebasfactor|Feebasfactor]] 20:34, 1 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Why were my edits reverted?  I've been asking for a reference for the school prayer comments at the top of the page for a while and none were provided.  The comment about prominent Americans not attending public schools since 1962 was deleted because I felt it was a little odd to have that sentence there when it is obvious that it was not true.--Jimmy 13:21, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: The list shows that the only prominent Americans were educated before 1962, and there is no disputing the observation about prayer being banned at public schools, along with the Ten Commandments.  You can easily find cites for that if that were your goal.  Deleting factual information for liberal reasons is allowed at Wikipedia, but not here.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:24, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::There are two lists of prominent Americans educated in public schools.  The second list provides the names of fifteen that were educated after 1962 so why are you insisting that there aren't any prominent Americans educated after 1962?  I am disputing your observation concerning public school prayer because according to George W. Bush and the Department of Education, you are wrong, and Bush is far from being a liberal.  &lt;br /&gt;
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::::::I can't find any cites to support your conclusions about public school prayer; that is why I want you to provide them.  If they exist, please show me where, according to the commandments it is your responsibility to do so.  Since Conservapedia is supposed to be &amp;quot;The Trustworthy Encyclopedia&amp;quot;, I feel that references should be provided for every alleged fact presented in its pages.  I don't see how that has a liberal stance, facts are facts.--Jimmy 13:40, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::Um, last time I checked, only teacher led/mandatory prayer in schools was banned. Students/Teachers can pray, however, they can't be disruptive to the class or make others pray that don't want to. Anyways, then there is the matter of which religion's prayers/worship style should be used. That would show favoritism to one religion and annoy other people who get offended. This leads to either having the class do prayers, etc.. of every religion or not having any prayer mandatory. The first option is infeasible because it would detract from time that could be used to learn subject material. So that is why teacher led/mandatory prayer isn't allowed in public schools. Willing individuals can pray together, however it must not be a distraction to a class. This is my two cents.[[User:JudgeKing|JudgeKing]] 13:00, 25 October 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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This is just getting worse.  Your reference to the prohibition of the Ten Commandments in public schools is a reference to another Conservapedia article which itself doesn't have a reference.  How is that suppose to work?  And this reference has nothing to do with the alleged prohibition of spoken prayer or teaching of morality.  I'll ask again, can you provide valid references for the following opinions you have made; spoken prayer is prohibited in public schools, school prayer was banned in 1962, and the teaching of morality is disfavored?  According to the commandments of this encyclopedia, you are not providing the proper documentation for most of your opinions expressed in this article and yet I get the feeling you wouldn't tolerate unreferenced edits from me.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Changing the heading of the second list of Americans that attended public schools doesn't make sense.  Of the fifteen people listed, only three can be considered 'celebrities'.  The rest are prominent business men, astronauts, politicians, an aviator and a soldier.  Since only 20% of the people listed are celebrities, how does that add up to 'mostly celebrity'?&lt;br /&gt;
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I get the feeling that I am going to be blocked soon.  I was warned once before about not insisting on people following the rules of this encyclopedia and that I should be expected to look up the references for other people's opinions even if I didn't think they were valid.  I hope I'll be able to make contributions to this website.--Jimmy 20:38, 4 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I would like to write a section about morality in public schools, but what good would it do.  The second sentence of this article claims, without providing any evidence whatsoever, that student prayer in public schools is prohibited and morality implicitly disfavored.  It doesn't matter that I provided plenty of evidence that this assertion is completely without basis.  Unless the second sentence is changed to reflect reality, this article will always look goofy.  The latest reference that Aschlafly supplied actually shows prayer is allowed at public schools.  I quote from the reference, &amp;quot;'''It ended in the spring of 2006 when the Knox County School Board promised in writing to allow students &amp;quot;religious expression&amp;quot; during &amp;quot;discretionary time'''.&amp;quot;  Far from demonstrating that public schools are forbidding prayer, this reference makes it clear that if students are denied the right to pray during non-instructional times, they always have someone that will fight for them and restore their rights.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Look at the edits I made earlier that were reverted.  Notice how many times 'atheistic' was replaced with 'secular' before it wasn't reverted.  A list showing a broad coalition of civil liberties groups supporting public school prayer was removed for being 'liberal'.  I've had no luck removing the 'disclaimer' about prominent Americans being educated in public schools.  It still states prayer is banned and no 'prominent Americans' have been educated in public schools even though I have demonstrated otherwise.  I've made continuous requests for references to support the opinions expressed in the second sentence of this article only to be ignored and threatened.  Will you offer any assurance that what I write will not be summarily dismissed?  I'd hate to waste my time.--Jimmy 00:07, 6 January 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: God bless you for doing that, Dan.  If I could hold classroom prayer to start the class with those kids and get rid of the liberal ideology, I could double that graduation rate.  But the liberals won't allow it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:42, 25 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. DeanS:  The references for the claim that public schools are atheistic are downright embarrassing.  The first reference deals with Kennedy's assertion that public schools are atheistic; no need for him to give any evidence, just blah, blah, blah.  The second reference is from WND, that by itself is bad enough, but after taking 30 seconds to read the article, I actually laughed out loud for a few seconds.  I don't quite understand, the reference says the school is allowing football players to pray as a group, and this is your evidence that public schools are atheistic?  I thought public school students weren't allowed to pray in public schools?  That is the completely unsupported claim made by one of the editors of this article.  Yet you posted a reference that stated kids are allowed to pray?  The third reference actually said students have the right to pray during discretionary time.  It stated at the beginning of the article, ''&amp;quot;It ended in the spring of 2006 when the Knox County School Board promised in writing to allow students &amp;quot;religious expression&amp;quot; during &amp;quot;discretionary time.&amp;quot;''  And you insist on saying this is a quality reference for your assertion that public schools are atheistic?  Please give me a break.  You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported that is.  &lt;br /&gt;
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This article is a complete piece of junk because it has so many contradicting claims.  Every claim that public schools are atheistic or doesn't teach morals is backed up with lousy references that don't support the claim while the entries I wrote used reliable references.  Is there any chance this article can be edited to reflect reality?  I realize some people just can't grasp the concept that students in America's secular public schools are allowed to pray, out loud, even during classes, and are allowed to read the Ten Commandments, etc.  I know this because this is what happens at every public school my children have attended and this is what our current president even says.  Now if you want to claim Bush doesn't know what he is talking about, go right ahead and say he is a clueless fool for insisting that public school students don't have the religious freedoms he claims.  But please post intelligent and meaningful references, if they can be found, that way this encyclopedia won't look ignorant.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 00:19, 11 June 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Jimmy, don't make emotional arguments to promote an editorial suggestion; as you say, it's embarrassing. Follow your own advice, such as, &amp;quot;You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported . . .&amp;quot; --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:13, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Uh. Jimmy's post is dated '''&amp;quot;June 11, 2008&amp;quot;'''. As you say he says, it's embarrassing. Jimmy has also been banned for all eternity more than two weeks ago. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 19:01, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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If you can find support for religion in any public school, you may add that to the counterexamples section (or start such a section). But the trend is clearly toward [[Atheism]], a positive '''denial''' of the existence of [[God]], along with [[Materialism]], an explicit denial of the reality of the [[supernatural]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Do not use edit summaries as a debate forum. You know better than this. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:11, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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''The secularism of the US public schools promotes atheism.''  This, I think may be true.  But that's a different thing from saying the schools ARE atheist.  If you take a look at the US Dept of Ed's Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;US Dept of Ed's Guidance on Constitutionally Protected Prayer in Public Elementary and Secondary Schools[http://www.ed.gov/policy/gen/guid/religionandschools/prayer_guidance.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is the government's official word on the subject, you get a pretty good idea of the governing principals and where the line is supposed to be drawn.  (Of course, there are always school districts here and there who step over the line one way or another, usually with much fanfare in the press.  This doesn't, however, change the fact that schools are ''supposed'' to follow the guidelines set forth by the Dept of Ed.)  Some highlights:&lt;br /&gt;
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*'''''The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the First Amendment requires public school officials to be neutral in their treatment of religion, showing neither favoritism toward nor hostility against religious expression such as prayer.'''''  This, I would argue, is pretty much the definition of &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;.  It's certainly not atheist.&lt;br /&gt;
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*''Accordingly, the First Amendment '''forbids religious activity that is sponsored by the government''' but '''protects religious activity that is initiated by private individuals''', and the line between government-sponsored and privately initiated religious expression is vital to a proper understanding of the First Amendment's scope. As the Court has explained in several cases, &amp;quot;there is a crucial difference between government speech endorsing religion, which the Establishment Clause forbids, and private speech endorsing religion, which the Free Speech and Free Exercise Clauses protect.&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Although the Constitution forbids public school officials from directing or favoring prayer, students do not &amp;quot;shed their constitutional rights to freedom of speech or expression at the schoolhouse gate,&amp;quot; and the Supreme Court has made clear that &amp;quot;private religious speech, far from being a First Amendment orphan, is as fully protected under the Free Speech Clause as secular private expression.&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''&amp;quot;nothing in the Constitution ... prohibits any public school student from voluntarily praying at any time before, during, or after the school day,&amp;quot; and students may pray with fellow students during the school day on the same terms and conditions that they may engage in other conversation or speech.&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Prayer During Noninstructional Time - Students may pray when not engaged in school activities or instruction, subject to the same rules designed to prevent material disruption of the educational program that are applied to other privately initiated expressive activities. Among other things, students may read their Bibles or other scriptures, say grace before meals, and pray or study religious materials with fellow students during recess, the lunch hour, or other noninstructional time to the same extent that they may engage in nonreligious activities.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Organized Prayer Groups and Activities - Students may organize prayer groups, religious clubs, and &amp;quot;see you at the pole&amp;quot; gatherings before school to the same extent that students are permitted to organize other non-curricular student activities groups. Such groups must be given the same access to school facilities for assembling as is given to other non-curricular groups, without discrimination because of the religious content of their expression.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Teachers, Administrators, and other School Employees - Teachers may take part in religious activities where the overall context makes clear that they are not participating in their official capacities. Before school or during lunch, for example, teachers may meet with other teachers for prayer or Bible study to the same extent that they may engage in other conversation or nonreligious activities. Similarly, teachers may participate in their personal capacities in privately sponsored baccalaureate ceremonies.''&lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Moments of Silence - If a school has a &amp;quot;minute of silence&amp;quot; or other quiet periods during the school day, students are free to pray silently, or not to pray, during these periods of time.'' &lt;br /&gt;
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* ''Religious Expression and Prayer in Class Assignments - Students may express their beliefs about religion in homework, artwork, and other written and oral assignments free from discrimination based on the religious content of their submissions.''&lt;br /&gt;
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I think &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is the more accurate term, despite a few examples of schools which mistakenly restricted students' rights to prayer. Trends away from secularism, and so on, can be described in a paragraph later in the entry. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 17:12, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: &amp;quot;Secular&amp;quot; means: &amp;quot;1 a: of or relating to the worldly or temporal &amp;lt;secular concerns&amp;gt; b: not overtly or specifically religious &amp;lt;secular music&amp;gt; c: not ecclesiastical or clerical &amp;lt;secular courts&amp;gt; &amp;lt;secular landowners&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/secular]&lt;br /&gt;
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: None of those definitions describes the overwhelmingly [[atheistic]] leadership and culture of [[public schools]].  Students are more likely to hear God mentioned or worshiped in an atheistic country than in a public school.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 18:50, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Nitpick: My Circular Reasoning sense is tingling: You look at a definition for &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot;, realize that it doesn't meet your assumption that the public schools are atheistic (and not secular) and then conclude that &amp;quot;secular&amp;quot; is not the right word. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 18:57, 30 August 2008 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Late comment: I'd prefer the term &amp;quot;nontheistic.&amp;quot;  &amp;quot;Atheistic&amp;quot; implies explicit denial of the existence of a higher being; &amp;quot;nontheistic&amp;quot; implies that the schools just don't address the concept. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 14:59, 16 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Removal of Section on Famous Americans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are ''so'' many things wrong with the section on famous Americans who have attended public school. How do you define &amp;quot;attended&amp;quot;: is it graduates only, or those who have spent even a day in a public institution? How do you define &amp;quot;prominent American&amp;quot;? Politicians, musicians, artists, owners of large corporations, athletes, who counts? Also, note that the list would probably require several hundred pages, considering that virtually ever American who has a graduate-level education (GED-worthy) attended a public school, including a vast, vast majority of Americans that would be considered &amp;quot;prominent.&amp;quot; And what's up with that statistic that claims that fewer prominent Americans have come out of the public school system since prayer was banned? There is absolutely no way that a claim like that can be tested, measured, or even looked at in a serious light. I vote to delete the section entirely. And mind you I have many, many friends who graduated from the public school system who are doing just fine, which is remarkable considering that I live in Los Angeles, which has one of the highest dropout rates in the country. I remember my mother still works at a particularly prominent school in Hollywood, and at the end of each year she takes several students who graduated out to lunch to congratulate them because it's such an achievement at some schools in the city. I don't think that has anything to do with prayer though (religious children fail to graduate just as often as secular ones). -[[User:Ilikecake|Ilikecake]] 17:04, 11 November 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Statistics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*A few comments on the recently-added statistics:&lt;br /&gt;
:*Illegal drugs: The survey that statistic comes from includes both public and private schools. (See [http://monitoringthefuture.org/purpose.html])&lt;br /&gt;
:*Teen pregnancy: The number is for one city in Virginia, and makes no distinction between public school, private school, and homeschooled teens.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Obesity: A similar comment.  The number is for one school district.&lt;br /&gt;
:*Mental health: According to [http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/mentalhealth/chapter3/sec1.html#table3_1 this] government website, an estimated 20% of people 9-17 years old have some sort of mental disorder.  Since the source for the &amp;quot;almost 10%&amp;quot; statistic (I think it would be better just to say 8%, by the way) doesn't say what exactly it means by &amp;quot;mental health issues,&amp;quot; there's really no way to determine what the significance of the number is.  Also, that number is for one school district.  It's not enough data to say the number applies to public school students in general.&lt;br /&gt;
:Usual disclaimers apply. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 20:34, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Any study that includes public and private schools is going to be 90% public school, so the private school distinction is insignificant.  If anything, private schools are better, which makes the real public school statistic ''even worse'' than reported.  The teen pregnancy statistic is for public and private schools, not homeschoolers (where teen pregnancy rates are virtually 0).  The government estimate on mental health is interesting but does not change the school statistic.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:57, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::*The teen pregnancy statistic is for all teens in the relevant area - which includes homeschoolers. (You can find the data from [http://www.vdh.virginia.gov/HealthStats/stats.asp#data this page] on the VA department of health's website.  Under &amp;quot;Data Tables,&amp;quot; pick either 2007 table from the Teenage Pregnancies drop-down box.)&lt;br /&gt;
:::*No, the estimate doesn't change the school statistic; however, it does change its significance.&lt;br /&gt;
:::*You have failed to address my comments regarding the samples.  Except for the illegal drugs statistic and the government mental health statistic, all the numbers I mentioned come from samples that were relatively small and not particularly diverse; you can't just assume those statistics are equal to those for the general public school population. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 21:06, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: You only challenge 4 out of the 11 points, and one of your 4 (the obesity statistic) can hardly be disputed.  Just look at how fat public school kids are.  Maybe the statistic is slightly off, but I could find 5 stories in 60 seconds decrying the obesity in public school kids.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: And that illustrates the problem with your comments.  You're not showing a genuine interest in the crisis when you deny facts that you could easily confirm yourself and improve the entry with additional references.  I'm not here to persuade someone determined not to be persuaded.  I already suggest to parents that they get their kids out of public school, and yet still try to help those stuck in the system and still look for ways to improve the system for the kids.  You, however, seem determined ''not'' to help.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:15, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Because I don't challenge all of the statistics, my criticisms can't be taken seriously?  Also, note that all I deny is that you are correctly interpreting the statistics.  Finally, you still haven't responded to my comments regarding the samples. -[[User:CSGuy|CSGuy]] 21:34, 21 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Where is your proof? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Why did you insert that 77% statistic into the [[public school]] article? The article provided did not say that statistic. Where is your proof?&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:Metzky|Metzky]] 20:42, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Note: when stating &amp;quot;article&amp;quot; I mean the conservapedia article, but when I say &amp;quot;source&amp;quot;, I mean the source that is cited.&lt;br /&gt;
:After reading the sources from the statistics, I have a major problems with what the article is claiming to have evidence of:&lt;br /&gt;
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:1.One source says &amp;quot;In 1991, 62 percent had used illicit drugs. In 2007, the number jumped to 77 percent.&amp;quot; (it is the link with the number &amp;quot;6&amp;quot;). However, this does '''not''' mean &amp;quot;77% do illegal drugs&amp;quot;, as stated in the article. It simply means that, at one point in their life, 77% '''have done''' drugs. The difference in verb tense makes a huge difference. Note that &amp;quot;have done&amp;quot; can be anything as small as having one drink ''in their entire life'' or smoking marijuana ''once''.&lt;br /&gt;
:2.I was unable to find where the pregnancy rate of 10% came from. I read the entire article sourced for the statistic twice and was unable to find it. The only thing close to it was &amp;quot;In a school of 2,211 students, there are at least 70 girls who are soon-to-be or already mothers.&amp;quot; This indicates a pregnancy rate of 3%, not 10%. Also, the statistic of about half getting abortions is not representative of the population, as there was only a sample size of 200 from Alexandria in Virginia.&lt;br /&gt;
:3.Also, the article sourced for &amp;quot;nearly 10% have mental health problems&amp;quot; specifically states in the second paragraph: &amp;quot;8 percent had mental health issues.&amp;quot; 10% and 8% are huge differences in the world of statistics. There is no problem with stating &amp;quot;8%&amp;quot;. Also, the study was on students in a Memphis school district. This means that the statistic is unable to be extrapolated to all of American public school students. Memphis students are not representative of the entire population of students, so no such claim is possible.&lt;br /&gt;
:4.The same goes for the 35% said to be obese. (Added in after originally posted &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:23, 2 January 2009 (EST))&lt;br /&gt;
:5.The same error just mentioned is committed when stating &amp;quot;20% go on dangerous &amp;quot;binge drinking,&amp;quot; and 50% drink illegally&amp;quot;. The statistic cited is for ''Ottowa County'' in Michigan. (not representative of the entire population)&lt;br /&gt;
:6.An even more egregious error is committed concerning the number of students who watch more than 3 hours of television. The national average that the source refers to '''is''' public school students. The 60% statistic is for ''Memphis'' students. The 35% is the national average for public school students.&lt;br /&gt;
:7.On bullying, the source states &amp;quot;Nationally, about 160,000 students miss school daily because they fear being bullied&amp;quot;. When checking this, the source is '''completely''' wrong:&lt;br /&gt;
::*http://www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/personal/09/06/bullies/index.html&lt;br /&gt;
::If you want a source that is not CNN, then:&lt;br /&gt;
::*http://books.google.com/books?id=D_LpPNZt3iMC&amp;amp;pg=PA461&amp;amp;lpg=PA461&amp;amp;dq=160,000+students+bully+one+day+year&amp;amp;source=web&amp;amp;ots=Ycyex5n4s6&amp;amp;sig=qlrlKQNjNIOScUryWSg048NbSlE&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;resnum=8&amp;amp;ct=result&lt;br /&gt;
:In reality, it is &amp;quot;Every year more than 160,000 students report missing some school because they are afraid.&amp;quot; (added after originally posted &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:32, 2 January 2009 (EST)) It is not ''every day'', but at least some every year. This includes simply ''being late'' in ''one day'' the entire year.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Overall, the sources seem to be taken from where public schools are doing the '''worst''' rather than average public schools. The sample sizes are extremely small and are taken specifically from the regions where public schools are doing the worst. These are not representative of how the entire public school system is doing. The statistics have either been gravely misinterpreted or are being misconstrued on purpose by the person who wrote that part of the article. The article is very misleading.&lt;br /&gt;
:I hope this is fixed soon. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#237923&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:WilliamBeason|William Beason]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:WilliamBeason|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 21:19, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: In response to point 1 above, drugs are addictive.  Very few people do drugs only once.  In response to point 2 above, please realize that boys don't get pregnant, and half of pregnant high school girls get an [[abortion]].&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Guys, I stopped there.  Raise the quality of your criticisms, please, if you want a response.  And pick your best criticism rather than pretending that quantity is a substitute for quality.  It isn't.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 21:47, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's too bad.  Numbers six and seven seem valid, if not the others.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 22:00, 2 January 2009 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;* [[Polyphymnia]] (test)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ode on the Mammoth Cheese]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[:Category:Geological time periods]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[How Old is the Earth According to the Bible?]] ([[talk:How Old is the Earth According to the Bible%3f|Talk page]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Examples of Absurdities in Wikipedia]] ([[talk:Examples of Absurdities in Wikipedia|talk page]])&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheistic Style]] &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Christian Style]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gerin Oil]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}}[[User:DanH|DanH]] 02:01, 5 May 2008 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:The Theory of Evolution</title>
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		<title>Talk:Sulu</title>
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&lt;div&gt;== Suggestion ==&lt;br /&gt;
With all respect to the original author, I am wondering if this page should be included into the existing Star Trek page?  --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 18:24, 29 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: You don't explain why, so I'll assume that it's to avoid lots of small articles about individual characters?&lt;br /&gt;
: I don't agree with it being on the [[Star Trek]] page.  Conservapedia wants concise articles, and the Star Trek article is already a fair size (in fact I think the religion section should be removed to a separate article).&lt;br /&gt;
: I support this article staying, but an alternative is to have a single article covering all the main characters (&amp;quot;Star Trek characters&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Characters of Star Trek&amp;quot;?) rather than separate articles for each.&lt;br /&gt;
: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 18:58, 29 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::You surmised correctly, Philip.  I agree, as a compromise, a single linked page to the Star Trek main article, detailing the characters.  Perhaps detailing the main characters of all three Star Trek series.  And I also agree with your suggestion about putting the religion discussion onto its own, linked page. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk!]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:07, 29 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Homosexuality ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I can't find the rule right now, and perhaps we have never adequately documented it (so the following may not be the ''exact'' criteria), but we don't include information such as a person being homosexual unless ''both'' of the following criteria are satisfied:&lt;br /&gt;
* That their homosexuality is certain.&lt;br /&gt;
* That their homosexuality is a defining aspect of their life, such as them being a homosexual activist.&lt;br /&gt;
As far as I'm aware, the second of these points at least is not the case here, which is why I've reverted the claim a second time.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:47, 29 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:He's been on a gay speaking tour.  Is that enough to satisfy #2?[http://www.georgetakei.com/hrc.asp] [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 19:57, 29 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Added info ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Since this is an article about Sulu, should we really be adding personal info about George Takei?  I mean, it makes sense to say Sulu was played by &amp;quot;openly homosexual actor George Takei,&amp;quot; but all the information about Takei's &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot; is terribly out of place. [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 02:05, 30 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Faith healing</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Faith healing''' is the practice of some [[religion|religious]] and [[spirituality|spiritual]] groups of choosing to [[prayer|pray]] for the recovery of the ill or injured.  The term is most commonly associated with the practice of calling upon [[God]] to enact a [[miracle|miraculous]] cure when conventional [[medicine]] has no answer.  An example would be a man in a wheelchair asked to rise who normally would have no ability to do so.  Within Christianity, this practice is most common within the Charismatic movements.&lt;br /&gt;
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Other groups have a more controversial doctrine.  For instance [[Christian Scientist]]s don't believe in illness, seeing it as a manifestation of a spiritual battle.  There have been cases of deaths that have resulted where it is believed that modern medical care could have cured the condition.  Christian Scientists report that their methods actually result in higher rates of positive results on average, although there are no formal studies that have been done that would be acceptable within the scientific community.&lt;br /&gt;
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Occasionally religious practitioners will take it upon themselves to set their own standards and forego medical care while relying on prayer.  This is frowned upon by most organized religious institutions.  In at least one case this has led to criminal charges when a couple who had not gone to church in years chose this path.  Their child died and it was determined that the death could have been prevented by modern medicine.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''[http://wausaudailyherald.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080428/WDH0101/80428118/1981 Update: DA: Parents were aware girl could die]''. Wausau Daily Herald. April 28, 2008 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
==Faith healing and the Bible==&lt;br /&gt;
Believers in faith healing believe that the following [[Bible]] passages support it:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible quote|And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease [was] exceeding [great]: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians. And Asa slept with his fathers, and died in the one and fortieth year of his reign.|book=2Chronicles|chap=16|verses=12-13|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible quote|Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.|book=James|chap=5|verses=14-16|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Marriage&amp;diff=594969</id>
		<title>Marriage</title>
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'''Marriage''' is the divinely ordained union between one man and one woman, ordained by [[God]]. (Genesis 2:24)  It has been practiced as such by just about every culture across geographical locations and time. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;Because there is a natural complementarity between men and women - sexual, emotional, temperamental, spiritual - marriage allows for a wholeness and a completeness that cannot be won in any other way. ([[Bill Bennett]], ''The Broken Hearth'', Page 197) &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Marriage is intended to be a life-long commitment, and typically requently this involves a public commitment (a [[wedding]]) where vows are exchanged to each other and before God.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Dinesh D'Souza]] wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:Marriage requires a) two people who are b) of legal age and c) not closely related to each other who are d) one male and one female. Note that this definition excludes people who want to marry children, or guys who want to marry their sisters, or Muslims who want to take four wives, or that strange guy who wants to marry his dog.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://townhall.com/columnists/DineshDSouza/2008/05/19/gay_rights_vs_democracy Gay Rights vs. Democracy]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The unity between a man and a woman in marriage is a picture or analogy of the relationship that God desires to have with his creation. The first marriage occurred nearly 6,000 years ago in the [[Garden of Eden]], in the area of the world that we now know as the Ancient Near East. The first couple was Adam and Eve.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Bill Bennett]] wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:Based as it is on the principle of [[complementarity]], marriage is also about a great deal more than love. That &amp;quot;great deal&amp;quot; encompasses, above all, [[procreation]]. The timeless function of marriage is childbearing and child-rearing, and the best arrangement ever developed to that end is the marital union between one man and one woman ... &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''The Broken Hearth'', Page 197)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Biblical marriage advice==&lt;br /&gt;
1 Corinthians 7:1-16:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is good for a man not to touch a woman. But because of immoralities, each man is to have his own wife, and each woman is to have her own husband. The husband must fulfill his duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband. The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. But this I say by way of concession, not of command. Yet I wish that all men were even as I myself am However, each man has his own gift from God, one in this manner, and another in that. But I say to the unmarried and to widows that it is good for them if they remain even as I. But if they do not have self-control, let them marry; for it is better to marry than to burn with passion. But to the married I give instructions, not I, but the Lord, that the wife should not leave her husband (but if she does leave, she must remain unmarried, or else be reconciled to her husband), and that the husband should not divorce his wife. But to the rest I say, not the Lord, that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he must not divorce her. And a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and he consents to live with her, she must not send her husband away. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified through her believing husband; for otherwise your children are unclean, but now they are holy. Yet if the unbelieving one leaves, let him leave; the brother or the sister is not under bondage in such cases, but God has called us to peace. For how do you know, O wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, O husband, whether you will save your wife?}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Modern marriage licenses==&lt;br /&gt;
In present-day America, 'getting married' typically involves a marriage license issued by the [[state]] [[government]] or a subdivision thereof (e.g., a county). However, marriage licenses are nowhere mentioned in Scripture; in fact, they are a relatively recent innovation and originally applied only to marriages that were otherwise forbidden.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Information on marriage licenses from Mercy Seat Christian Church [http://www.mercyseat.net/BROCHURES/marriagelicense.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Attacks on the institution of marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
Any society which lessened the sanctity of marriage has perished. Ancient Rome's decline and fall was due in no small part to a growing tolerance of extramarital sex, particularly [[homosexual acts]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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In the Judeo-Christian tradition, there is no room for [[sexual intercourse]] other than between man and wife. Anything which tolerates or permits [[promiscuity]] weakens society.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the middle of the 20th century, activists have sought to destroy the societal pressures that dissuade people from engaging in extramarital sex. Removing the stigma from premarital sex, creating no-fault divorce laws, exalting adultery as &amp;quot;stimulating&amp;quot;, and especially de-stigmatizing [[homosexuality]] all weaken the institution of marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
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A recent ''Newsweek'' article complains that [[Biblical figures]] have not provided good historical examples of marriage, on the grounds that [[Abraham]] begot [[Ishmael]] by a maidservant and [[Jacob]] had [[polygamy|two wives]] and sons with both of their [[concubine|servants]]. The article also criticizes [[Jesus]] and [[St. Paul]] for remaining single. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.newsweek.com/id/172653/page/1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Form of Solemnization of Matrimony]], an example of a traditional marriage service&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Civil marriage]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.aim.org/wls/category/marriage/ What Liberals Say - Category: Marriage], [[Accuracy In Media]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Faith&amp;diff=594968</id>
		<title>Faith</title>
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'''Faith''' is a confidence or trust in the achievement of [[God]]'s will, even though unseen and unexpected by non-believers.  A classic statement of faith in the [[Bible]] was by the [[Roman Empire|Roman]] centurion of [http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%208:5-10;&amp;amp;version=49; Matthew 8:5-10], who expressed his confidence that [[Jesus]] could cure his beloved servant from a distance without even seeing him.  [[Jesus]] repeatedly emphasized the importance and value of faith to his disciples.&lt;br /&gt;
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Faith embodies more than belief.  Faith elevates one's being, while belief is limited to a mental state or emotion.  Faith implies a causal role by the believer in an outcome, as in [[Peter]]'s walking on water based on his faith or in overcoming a personal fear.  Faith also implies advancement or accomplishment rather than wrongdoing, while belief implies neither.&lt;br /&gt;
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Faith plays a central role in overcoming [[addiction]].  Virtually everyone is plagued by one or more addictions, and faith enables overcoming those weaknesses.&lt;br /&gt;
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Faith is also helpful in overcoming fear, such as fear of public speaking,  appearing on [[television]], or standing up to a [[bully]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Lack of faith includes fear, anxiety, depression and lack of confidence.  A lack of faith can be very harmful, leading to self-destructive behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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Faith is expressed in [[Greek]] using the term ''pistis'', and in [[Latin]] using the term ''fides''.  Faith is mentioned in 229 verses in the [[New Testament]] ([[KJV]]), but only twice in the much larger [[Old Testament]] ([[KJV]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In attempt to convert [[Jews]] to [[Christianity]], [[Paul]] described [[Abraham]]'s willingness to sacrifice his beloved son [[Isaac]] to [[God]] as an act of faith, though the [[Old Testament]] did not describe it with that term.&lt;br /&gt;
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Faith is strengthened by prayer ([http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jude%2020;&amp;amp;version=9; Jude 20]). For those who strengthen their faith, [[Jesus]] promised &amp;quot;I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John 14:12 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==Biblical examples==&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps the greatest description of faith is Hebrews 11. It states: &amp;quot;Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Hebrews 11:1 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Paul]] indicated that faith itself is a gift of the [[Holy Spirit]].  1 Corinthians 12:8-9 &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; to another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As discussed above, a potential reference to faith is [[Genesis]] 22 where [[God]] tested [[Abraham]] by commanding him to sacrifice his only son [[Isaac]]. As Abraham prepared to do what God commanded -he was stopped. &lt;br /&gt;
Genesis 22:12&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;i&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Do not lay a hand on the boy,&amp;quot; he said. &amp;quot;Do not do anything to him. Now I know that you fear God, because you have not withheld from me your son, your only son.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Martin Luther on Faith==&lt;br /&gt;
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Luther in his Table Talk papers writes this thought provoking and rather difficult passage on faith:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;This is the acme of faith, to believe that God, who saves so few and condemns so many, is merciful; that he is just who, at his own pleasure, has made us necessarily doomed to damnation, so that he seems to delight in the torture of the wretched and is more deserving of hate than of love.  If by any effort of reason I could conceive how God, who shows so much anger and harshness, could be merciful and just, there would be no need of faith.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Faith as a virtue==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Konrad Witz – Petri fiskafänge.jpg|thumb|right|210px|The 'walking on water' episode, which both showed and tested St Peter's faith (painting by Konrad Witz).]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[St Paul]] identified faith, [[hope]] and [[love]] (or [[charity]]) as the three greatest [[virtue]]s that are central to Christianity, and this idea is repeated and elaborated upon throughout Christian tradition. Faith is put first because it provides the foundation upon which the other two are built: a faithful heart and mind cause one to have hope, and hope causes one to have love for God and one's fellow man.&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[Dante]]'s [[Divine Comedy]], [[St Peter]] is most identified with faith. This is appropriate, since he was the 'rock' on which the Church was built, just as a Christian life must be rooted in faith. Peter's great faith is shown in Matthew 14:28-31, when he is briefly able to walk on water until doubt enters his mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Uniqueness to Christianity ==&lt;br /&gt;
Christianity is unique among religions in that its followers are defined by faith rather than by adherence to a prescribed code. St Paul makes this distinction clear in Galatians 3:24-25:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The law was a kind of tutor in charge of us until Christ should come, when we should be justified through faith; and now that faith has come, the tutor's charge is at an end.}}&lt;br /&gt;
That is to say, whereas [[Judaism]] required (and still requires) its followers to obey the law, Christianity begins with faith, and any moral or ethical decisions must follow from that. In this regard, Islam has much more in common with Judaism than it does with Christianity: the word 'Islam' itself means 'submission to God'.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other Definitions and Religions==&lt;br /&gt;
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Outside of [[Christianity]], faith is misused as a synonym for &amp;quot;belief&amp;quot;. The [[Merriam-Webster]] dictionary, for example, includes this definition of faith:  &amp;quot;a system of religious beliefs.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/faith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Alternatively, faith often refers to a &amp;quot;firm belief in something for which there is no proof&amp;quot; or evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[Koran]], the concept of submission to [[Allah]] is mentioned 11 times, while the concept of faith in Allah is mentioned only once.&lt;br /&gt;
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Etymologically, the word 'faith' is closely linked to the concept of &amp;quot;fidelity,&amp;quot; which emphasizes commitment to something or someone, specifically [[Christ]]. Thus, faith is often understood to mean 'loyalty' to a particular view of [[divinity]]. Yet, faith can also be envisioned more broadly as a trust in [[providence]], as it entails an active role for the believer himself for advancing good.&lt;br /&gt;
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The literary critic Harold Bloom distinguishes Christianity from the other two dominant monotheistic religions in his book Agon by contrasting them with Gnosticism:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Gnosticism polemically is decidedly not a faith, whether in the Christian sense, pisits, a believing that something was, is, and will be so; or in the Hebraic sense, emunah, a trusting in the Covenant.  If religion is a binding, then Gnosticism is an unbinding, but not for the sake of things or persons merely as they are.  Gnostic freedom is a freedom for knowledge, knowledge of what in the self, not in the psyche or soul, is Godlike, and knowledge of God beyond the cosmos.  But also it is a freedom to be known, to be known by God, by what is alien to everything created, by what is alien to and beyond the stars and the cosmic system and our earth.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Faith is emphasized in Christianity but is unrecognized by the worldview of [[Philosophical Skepticism|philosophical skepticism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Holding, James Patrick, [http://tektonics.org/whatis/whatfaith.html Fallacious Faith]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://jesuschrist.lds.org/SonOfGod/eng/finding-faith-in-christ/video/finding-faith-in-christ Finding Faith in Christ], video at ''JesusChrist.lds.org''&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Faith_Freedom_International&amp;diff=594966</id>
		<title>Faith Freedom International</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Faith Freedom International''' (often abbreviated as '''FFI''') is an atheistic organization critical of [[Islam]]. The organization was founded by [[Ali Sina]], a [[Muslim]]-turned-[[atheist]], and is geared towards showing Muslims the perceived fallacies within the Qu'ran, and the teachings of the Muslim prophet [[Muhammad]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.faithfreedom.org/index.htm FFI Home Page]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
{{Nb Atheism}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[category:religious Organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Atheism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Evolutionism</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''Evolutionism''', as opposed to [[Creationism]], is the ''advocacy of or belief in biological evolution''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;evolutionism.&amp;quot; The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition. Houghton Mifflin Company, 2004. 20 Mar. 2007. &amp;lt;Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolutionism&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Therefore one who ''believes in or supports a [[evolution|theory of evolution]]''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;evolutionist.&amp;quot; Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1). Random House, Inc. 21 Mar. 2007. &amp;lt;Dictionary.com http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/evolutionist&amp;gt;.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; would be referred to as an ''evolutionist''. Evolutionism, used in a general sense, encompasses ''any'' type of biological evolutionist. Broken down into two categories, &amp;quot;Evolutionism&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Evolutionists&amp;quot; usually involve Atheistic/Agnostic Evolutionists (evolution without God) and Theistic Evolutionists (evolution with God). Those categories can be further broken down, but they are the main two.&lt;br /&gt;
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The term evolutionism is used differently in different circles of thought. Generally [[Young Earth Creationism|Young Earth Creationists]] use it as a reference to what they believe is the [[world view]] or [[presupposition]] aspect of the scientific theory of evolution. The term is not necessarily used as a world view unto itself, but is more based off of and is possibly an extension of a variety of other world views including [[Materialism]], [[Naturalism]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA601.html CA601: Evolution and Naturalism] - TalkOrigins Archive&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and [[Humanism]] in its broadest sense. Many that hold to the theory of evolution have been known to be [[Atheism|atheists]] as well, but this does not represent the entirety or whole.&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|''Evolutionism is a '''world-view''', which seeks to explain every aspect of this world in which we live. It encompasses a wide variety of topics, from astronomy to chemistry to biology. At its core, it teaches that there were different stages in the evolution of our universe...''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/evolutionism.htm Evolutionism - AllAboutPhilosophy] - Accessed on March 22, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Theistic Evolution==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Theistic Evolution|Theistic Evolutionists]] believe that God created the universe and did not intervene directly in the evolutionary process. In general, theistic evolutionists accept the evolutionist ideas of the age of the earth and common descent. Theistic evolutionists believe that at some point God intervened in a metaphysical fashion to give souls to some small group of human ancestors. The Catholic Church holds that this is consistent with the Catholic faith.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.catholic.net/RCC/Periodicals/Dossier/0102-97/Article3.html Mark Brumley, Evolution and the Pope]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Foundational question/starting point==&lt;br /&gt;
All the viewpoints take a ''step of faith'' as some might refer to it. In other words, there is a common starting point or foundational question (it's a God-related question) that each one asks, and then forms their conclusions around.&lt;br /&gt;
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===According to biblical Creationists (Young Earth)===&lt;br /&gt;
* God exists (world view)&lt;br /&gt;
** Therefore we need to explain everything based on that &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Thus science is done on the basis that &amp;quot;God exists&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**** The Bible comes ''before'' science. The science is based on the world view.&lt;br /&gt;
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===According to biblical Theistic Evolutionists (Old Earth)===&lt;br /&gt;
There is disagreement among [[Theistic Evolution]]ists, as not all hold that God is not involved presently in His creation.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Impersonal God'''&lt;br /&gt;
* There is no personal/involved God (world view)&lt;br /&gt;
** Therefore we need to explain everything based on that &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Thus science is done on the basis that God is not involved in His creation&lt;br /&gt;
**** ''Theistic Evolutionism'' comes ''before'' the ''Scientific Theory of Evolution''. The science is based on the world view.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Personal God'''&lt;br /&gt;
* There is a personal/involved God (world view)&lt;br /&gt;
** Therefore we need to explain everything based on that &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Thus science is done on the basis that there is a &amp;quot;personal God&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**** ''Theistic Evolutionism'' comes ''before'' the ''Scientific Theory of Evolution''. The science is based on the world view.&lt;br /&gt;
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===According to Atheistic Evolutionists===&lt;br /&gt;
Some proponents of the scientific theory of evolution reject the idea of a philosophy or world view that guides their conclusions in scientific experimentation.  However evolutionists who are 'strong atheists' and who make a positive assertion that there is no God, do in fact have a world view; whereas 'weak atheists', who maintain there is probably no God due to lack of any objective evidence of Him, rely on science.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Strong Atheism'''&lt;br /&gt;
* There is no God (world view)&lt;br /&gt;
** Therefore we need to explain everything based on that &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
*** Thus science is done on the basis of there being no God (i.e. [[naturalism]])&lt;br /&gt;
**** Naturalism comes ''before'' the science. The science is based on the world view.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Weak Atheism'''&lt;br /&gt;
* So far, there is no objective proof of God&lt;br /&gt;
** Therefore, we do not need to interpret evidence to fit in with the &amp;quot;fact&amp;quot; of God's existence&lt;br /&gt;
*** Thus science is done on the basis of there being no God (i.e. [[naturalism]]) (unless His existence becomes objectively proven)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Naturalism comes ''before'' the science. The science is based on the world view.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Comparison===&lt;br /&gt;
The various viewpoints can be compared in general ways as they all have some sort of starting point. The general Creationist starting point is God, which then all the universe is based on including that of science. Some ''Theistic Evolutionists'' hold to a similar God idea, yet emphasize a somewhat secondary origin&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Some Theistic Evolutionists believe that God created the universe and yet He is no longer involved in it. Therefore &amp;quot;secondary origin&amp;quot; is referring to the idea that God is the origin of the universe, but not necessarily ''You and Me''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in the evolutionary process. Atheistic evolutionists say that we must prove God by science, therefore their intellectual starting point is science itself.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Controversy==&lt;br /&gt;
===Usage of Terminology===&lt;br /&gt;
The term ''evolutionism'' uses the suffix ''-ism'', which is commonly used to designate varieties of philosophical opinion, and some people who support evolution prefer to use other terms. Others are happy to call themselves evolutionists, and the terms have been in common use for a century. For example, the most popular American proponent of evolution called himself an evolutionist, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;I count myself among the evolutionists&amp;quot;, S.J. Gould [http://www.stephenjaygould.org/library/gould_fact-and-theory.html], also &amp;quot;Evolutionists have been very clear about this distinction of fact and theory&amp;quot;. [http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolution-fact.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and his obituary read &amp;quot;Evolutionist Stephen Jay Gould dead&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;S.F. Chronicle, 1981 [http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2002/05/21/MN175165.DTL]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is all part of the controversy over evolution itself (see [[Origins debate]]). &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Some Atheistic/Agnostic Evolutionists say that the term ''Evolutionism'' is simply a false Creationist perception, &lt;br /&gt;
or pejorative assertion that science represents merely another religion. They disagree that the theory of evolution is based on a [[philosophy]] or [[world view]]. They say that the perception finds no grounding in reality, other than as a rhetorical dramatization. However, according to creationists, this disagreement arises from a misunderstanding of terms. Biblical [[Young Earth Creationism|Young Earth Creationists]] hold both terms in philosophically equal light, up to a certain point. They would say that the term &amp;quot;Evolutionism&amp;quot; has the same or very similar meaning to &amp;quot;Creationism&amp;quot; as it relates to a supposed philosophical/foundational starting point or question (does God exist?). They say the term &amp;quot;Evolutionism&amp;quot; refers to a subset of a combination of world views, while the scientific theory of evolution is the result of the ''Evolutionist'' presupposition. In other words, they say that Evolutionism is the collective world view behind the scientific theory of evolution. However, that's where the similarities end with Creationism.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Religion and Evolutionism===&lt;br /&gt;
Some Creationists point out that they see various religious aspects, not in the theory of evolution itself (although they don't exclude that necessarily), but in the Evolutionists themselves. Some will say how Evolutionists have a ''religious fervor'' over what Creationists believe is false science. Some Evolutionists have historically misunderstood this for Creationists labeling science itself as a religion. M. Green, a Creationist, put it this way in his ''Faith of Darwinism'' (emphasis added).&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|''Today the tables are turned. The modified, but still characteristically Darwinian theory has itself become an orthodoxy, preached by its adherents with '''religious fervor''', and doubted, they feel, only by a few muddlers imperfect in scientific faith.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mgreen&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;''}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Evolution has been a recent source of controversy in the [[United States]]{{fact}}. Some prominent Americans seriously question evolution{{fact}}, based on a feeling that it conflicts with religious beliefs. However, according to Evolutionists, at least one aspect of religion and evolution is not mutually exclusive. Some deeply religious evolutionists believe that God set evolution into effect, which is no detraction to His majesty. This is referring to the theory of [[Theistic Evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
===Religiosity and the Cult of Personality Surrounding Charles Darwin===&lt;br /&gt;
There is a cult of personality and type of religiosity currently surrounding Charles Darwin.  [[Stephen Jay Gould]] wrote the following in 1978: &amp;quot;[A]ll theories [of natural selection] cite God in their support, and ... Darwin comes close to this status among evolutionary biologists&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bradburyac.mistral.co.uk/dar1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In 2002, Michael White similarly wrote: &amp;quot;Of course today, for biologists, Darwin is second only to God, and for many he may rank still higher.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bradburyac.mistral.co.uk/dar1.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Biblical Young Earth Creationist's problem with a Biblical Old Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
Taking the Bible literally, there are no gaps permitting an undocumented period of time between the creation week and the fall of the temple in Jerusalem in 587 BC &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://web.newsguy.com/rubyredinger/age.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, which is well established by archaeology and secular history.  Accordingly, the birth of Adam can be placed at approximately 4,163 BC and the initial creation of the universe six days prior.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Evolutionism requires faith'' quotes (by Evolutionists)''':&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|'''Michael Ruse'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a [[secular religion]] -- a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality. I am an ardent evolutionist and an ex-Christian, but I must admit that in this one complaint -- and Mr. Gish is but one of many to make it -- the literalists are absolutely right. Evolution is a religion. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of evolution still today.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MICHAEL RUSE [http://www.omniology.com/HowEvolutionBecameReligion.html HOW EVOLUTION BECAME A RELIGION]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
'''''Evolutionism requires faith'' quotes (by Creationists)''':&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionism.html Evolutionism - Is Evolution a Religion?] - Northwest Creation Network&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|'''L.N. Matthews'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an unproved theory - is it then a science or faith? &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;L.N. Matthews, &amp;quot;Introduction&amp;quot; to Charles Darwin, Origin of the Species, pp. x, xi (1971 edition)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;''}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|'''J.W.N. Sullivan'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''The hypothesis that life has developed from inorganic matter is, at present, still an article of faith. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;J.W.N. Sullivan, Limitations of Science (1933), p95.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;''}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|'''[[R.L. Wysong]]'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''Evolution requires plenty of faith; a faith in L-proteins that defy chance formation; a faith in the formation of DNA codes which, if generated spontaneously, would spell only pandemonium; a faith in a primitive environment that, in reality, would fiendishly devour any chemical precursors to life; a faith in experiments that prove nothing but the need for intelligence in the beginning; a faith in a primitive ocean that would not thicken, but would only haplessly dilute chemicals; a faith in natural laws of thermodynamics and biogenesis that actually deny the possibility for the spontaneous generation of life; a faith in future scientific revelations that, when realized, always seem to present more dilemmas to the evolutionists; faith in improbabilities that treasonously tell two stories—one denying evolution, the other confirming the Creator; faith in transformations that remain fixed; faith in mutations and natural selection that add to a double negative for evolution; faith in fossils that embarrassingly show fixity through time, regular absence of transitional forms and striking testimony to a worldwide water deluge; a faith in time which proves to only promote degradation in the absence of mind; and faith in reductionism that ends up reducing the materialist's arguments to zero and forcing the need to invoke a supernatural Creator. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;R.L. Wysong, The Creation-Evolution Controversy (1981), p. 455.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;''}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|'''T. Lessl'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''&amp;quot;By calling evolution fact, the process of evolution is removed from dispute; it is no longer merely a scientific construct, but now stands apart from humankind and its perceptual frailties. Sagan apparently wishes to accomplish what Peter Berger calls `objectification,' the attribution of objective reality to a humanly produced concept . . With evolution no longer regarded as a mere human construct, but now as a part of the natural order of the cosmos, evolution becomes a sacred archetype against which human actions can be weighed. Evolution is a sacred object or process in that it becomes endowed with mysterious and awesome power.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;T. Lessl, Science and the Sacred Cosmos: The Ideological Rhetoric of Carl Sagan,&amp;quot; Quarterly Journal of Speech, 71:178 (1985).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;''}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|'''M. Grene'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''&amp;quot;Today the tables are turned. The modified, but still characteristically Darwinian theory has itself become an orthodoxy, preached by its adherents with religious fervor, and doubted, they feel, only by a few muddlers imperfect in scientific faith.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;mgreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;M. Grene, Faith of Darwinism,&amp;quot; Encounter, November (1959), p49.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;''}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Creationism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Faith]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Humanism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Naturalistic religions]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Theism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Notes'''&lt;br /&gt;
:'''''Affirmative''' articles that attempt to rebut the faith claim of creationists.''&lt;br /&gt;
:'''''Critical''' articles that claim evolutionism involves faith.''&lt;br /&gt;
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! Affirmative !! Critical&lt;br /&gt;
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'''TalkOrigins'''&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA612.html CA612: Evolution requiring faith]&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://creationwiki.org/%28Talk.Origins%29_Evolution_requires_as_much_faith_as_creationism CreationWiki response]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA610.html CA610: Evolution religious]&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://creationwiki.org/%28Talk.Origins%29_Evolution_is_a_religion CreationWiki response]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CA/CA001.html CA001: Evolution is the foundation of an immoral world view]&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://creationwiki.org/%28Talk.Origins%29_Evolution_is_the_foundation_of_an_immoral_worldview CreationWiki response]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/evolphil/metaphysics.html Evolution and Philosophy: Metaphysics]&lt;br /&gt;
'''EvoWiki'''&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Evolution_is_the_foundation_of_an_immoral_worldview Evolution is the foundation of an immoral world view]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''DrDino'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.drdino.com/articles.php?spec=25 Evolution Is Based On Modern Myths]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Creationists.org'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.creationists.org/evolutionisreligion.html Evolution is a Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Northwest Creation Network'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.nwcreation.net/evolutionism.html Evolutionism - Is Evolution a religion?]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Creation Ministries International'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1491/ Evolution as religion]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/4139 Leading anti-creationist philosopher admits that evolution is a religion]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Answers in Genesis'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/0930religion.asp The Religion of Evolution]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/the-lie/chapter2.asp Evolution is Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
'''CreationWiki'''&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creationwiki.org/%28Talk.Origins%29_Evolution_requires_as_much_faith_as_creationism Evolution requires as much faith as creationism] - Rebuttal of TalkOrigins Archive&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creationwiki.org/%28Talk.Origins%29_Evolution_is_a_religion Evolution is a religion] - Rebuttal of TalkOrigins Archive&lt;br /&gt;
'''Institute for Creation Research'''&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.icr.org/article/201/ Evolution is Religion, not Science (1)], [http://www.icr.org/article/455/ (2)]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Naturalism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Digg&amp;diff=594217</id>
		<title>Digg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Digg&amp;diff=594217"/>
		<updated>2008-12-26T01:31:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: Avoid redirect.  Two things - this article needs citations &amp;amp; there's problems with the pronouns, as I mentioned on the talk page.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Digg''', also known as Digg.com, is a website that allows users to democratically rate and comment on short articles posted to it.  Each post has a single link to web page.&lt;br /&gt;
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Digg has been accused of being stricter on [[conservative]]s’ posting than other groups. Digg has said that it treats all groups equally. In their defense, they have said that many of the individuals that were banned were publishing [[hate speech]] such as articles by the American Nazi Party and outright lies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Starting at approximately [[January]] of 2007 a disproportionate number of postings about [[Ron Paul]] began showing up on the site's home page due to fanatical support from Paul's base.  The number of articles has been steadily decreasing since [[April]] of 2007 as Ron Paul failed to generate significant numbers at various Republican caucuses.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Digg started as tech news site, but during 2007, a political section was added, which resulted in increase of politically-related articles and also attracted large amounts of far-left oriented [[liberal]] users, many of them being fanatical supporters of [[Barack Obama]]. Since then, Digg has (along with far-left political sites such as Daily Kos and Huffington Post) became one of the Internet strongholds of anti-religious, [[anti-conservative]] and [[anti-American]] propaganda. [[Liberal hate speech]] is rarely sanctioned by Digg's staff while accounts of some conservative or [[Republican_Party|Republican]] members were banned simply because they continuously expressed their opinion (which usually offended liberal fanatics to the point they started flame wars, often ending up in insults, mocking, or even death threats towards conservatives). During [[September]] of 2008, almost all political stories reaching Digg's front page from its U.S. Elections 2008 section&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/ Digg.com - 2008 U.S. Elections]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; were smears or lies about [[John McCain]] or [[Sarah Palin]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the 2008 election, Digg has continued to act as a mouthpiece and aggregator for extremist [[liberal propaganda]]. Prior to [[Barack Obama]]'s inauguration, for example, several popular pieces on the website were written by apologists for [[drug abuse]] and [[addiction]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[EBay]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[PayPal]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://digg.com Official Site]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[category:websites]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Harry_Potter&amp;diff=588603</id>
		<title>Harry Potter</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Harry_Potter&amp;diff=588603"/>
		<updated>2008-12-17T01:15:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: Undo revision 588588 by Arkhangelsk - all new material was plagarized from &amp;quot;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/harrypotter.html#5&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:67486ruy.jpg|right|thumb|British edition of '''Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone'''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The '''''Harry Potter''''' books are a hugely popular&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; The author has sold 350 million books and counting, been translated into 65 languages and had her work made into highly successful movies. [http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3811481&amp;amp;page=1 ABC News] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; series of seven popular fantasy novels by [[J.K. Rowling]] about three children at a British boarding school: Harry, Ron and Hermione. The children grow from age 11 to 17 in the books, giving them appeal to a broad range of readers including children and teenagers, but also appealing to adults. &lt;br /&gt;
  &lt;br /&gt;
==Harry Potter==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Harry Potter''' is the [[protagonist]] and the plot of each book focuses on Harry's adolescence and fight against the [[antagonist]] wizard Lord Voldemort. The books combine elements of whimsy reminiscent of ''[[Alice in Wonderland]]'', the strange adult immaturity of ''[[Through the Looking Glass]]'', and the implacable good vs. evil fight of ''[[The Lord of the Rings]]''.&lt;br /&gt;
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When Harry was a mere baby, [[Voldemort]] murdered his parents, and he never found out that his parents were [[wizard (fiction)|wizard]]s until his 11th birthday (it came as a giant surprise). [[Hagrid]] took him to [[Diagon Alley]] for robes, books and wand; then on to [[Hogwarts]], a boarding school for wizards and witches. He had many adventures there learning [[magic]] and using it to fight the forces of the [[Voldemort|wizard]] who killed his [[parent]]s when he was an [[infant]]. Along the way, Harry learns about life and [[death]] and grapples with questions of [[morality]] and [[friendship]]. There are seven books in total to the series.&lt;br /&gt;
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The books have been fabulously successful, selling 300 million copies, and ''[[Forbes]]'' estimates that they have made Rowling the first billion-dollar [[author]] in history.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.forbes.com/maserati/billionaires2004/cx_jw_0226rowlingbill04.html J. K. Rowling And The Billion-Dollar Empire].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; To date, five of them have been made into movies, the sixth to begin filming September 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Harry Potter'' series of [[book]]s are sizable volumes. The 870 pages of ''Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix'', even though printed in large type, contain 255,000 words&amp;amp;mdash;about twice as long as ''A Tale of Two Cities''. The &amp;quot;Lexile&amp;quot; measure of reading level puts the series between 880L and 950L,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For comparison: ''Charlotte's Web'' 680L, ''Alice's Adventures in Wonderland'' 890L, ''Moby Dick'' 1200L&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; comparable to sixth-grade texts&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.lexile.com/DesktopDefault.aspx?view=fa&amp;amp;tabindex=4&amp;amp;tabid=22 The Lexile framework for reading].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Christian Theme in ''Harry Potter'' ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{spoiler}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite some criticism from mainline Christians who oppose ''Harry Potter'' for allegedly endorsing witchcraft, the series includes some aspects that parallel Christianity.  Harry's death and rebirth at the end of Book VII (''Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows'') can be seen as mirroring the rebirth of [[Christ]]. Just as the savior of humanity was reborn, so Harry Potter, as the fictional savior of the magical world, is reborn.  Further, this rebirth carries a special, significant guardianship trait: as Christ died to forgive the sins of humanity, resulting in salvation for all mankind, so Harry's death grants a protective magic to himself and to his friends.  It could be said that ''Harry Potter'' teaches the nobility of meaningful sacrifice.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criticisms==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Harry Potter'' series is written in a way that embeds fantasy and wizardry into a real world setting. This could potentially lead to some children potentially exploring witchcraft, Wicca, and paganism. Indeed, the Pagan Federation in Britain has received a flood of inquiries from young ''Harry Potter'' fans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;About.com: Agnosticism/Atheism - [http://atheism.about.com/od/harrypotter/i/witchcraft_2.htm Does Harry Potter Promote Wicca or Witchcraft? Is Harry Potter a Pagan Book?] (page 2)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Catholic Church]] has taken a more neutral position.  In 2003, a Vatican representative said the books, &amp;quot;aren't serving as the banner for an anti-Christian theology.... I don't think there's anyone in this room who grew up without fairies, magic, and angels in their imaginary world.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sink, Mindy (2003), &amp;quot;The Split Verdict on Harry Potter,&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
''The New York Times,'' March 8, 2003, p. B6; representative quoted is Rev. Don Peter Fleetwood, who &amp;quot;helped draft a Vatican document on New Age phenomena.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Some expect children's literature to present characters that are role models and teach simple truths that will help children grow and know the difference between right and wrong.  However, the world of ''Harry Potter'' is one in which adult authority figures are complex, imperfect, and occasionally ludicrous. Some teachers in the series are boring, or outright incompetent, while others are supportive and protective (like [[Dumbledore]] and [[Lupin]]).  In the first book Harry disobeys the teachers and is successful and later praised, a questionable message for younger minds.  &lt;br /&gt;
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==Notable Ban Attempts==&lt;br /&gt;
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On the week of April 10, 2006, Georgia mother of four Laura Mallory filed an appeal with the Gwinnett Board of Education in an attempt to remove the ''Harry Potter'' series from Gwinnett schools. Ms. Mallory (who has only read excerpts of the books) stated on the appeal form that she wished the books removed due to their &amp;quot;evil themes, witchcraft, demonic activity, murder, evil blood sacrifice, spells and teaching children all of this.&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/index.php?s=&amp;amp;url_channel_id=32&amp;amp;url_subchannel_id=&amp;amp;url_article_id=14074&amp;amp;change_well_id=2]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The local board of education denied the request, as they felt the banning of ''Harry Potter'' would necessitate the banning of all books with reference to witches, including plays like ''[[Macbeth]]'' and even stories like [[Cinderella]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15127464/ Georgia mom seeks ban on Harry Potter]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Ms. Mallory has since appealed the ruling twice to no avail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wtvm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5022462&amp;amp;nav=8fap]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16204853/from/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/education/stories/011807dnentpotterprotest.a89cec.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similar concerns have been voiced by Christian cartoonist [[Jack Chick]], pastor and author [[Dave Hunt]], the British group [[Christian Voice]] and various others. None of these have resulted in any form of legal action.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Series titles==&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone]]'' (original title as published in England and all other English-speaking countries other than U.S.A: ''Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone'')&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*''[[Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Harry Potter Universe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Novels]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mercy&amp;diff=588572</id>
		<title>Mercy</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Mercy&amp;diff=588572"/>
		<updated>2008-12-16T23:58:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: this article seems incomplete&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Mercy''' is compassionate treatment of someone who is under your power.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In ''[[The Merchant of Venice]]'', [[William Shakespeare]] uses Portia (a trial lawyer) to remind Shylock (a moneylender) of mercy's qualities: &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;The quality of mercy is not strain'd,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It droppeth as the gentle rain from heaven&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Upon the place beneath. It is twice blest:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It blesseth him that gives and him that takes.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
'T is mightiest in the mightiest: it becomes&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The throned monarch better than his crown;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
His sceptre shows the force of temporal power,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The attribute to awe and majesty,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Wherein doth sit the dread and fear of kings;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
But mercy is above this sceptred sway,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It is enthroned in the hearts of kings,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
It is an attribute to God himself;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
And earthly power doth then show likest God's,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When mercy seasons justice. Therefore, Jew,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Though justice be thy plea, consider this,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
That in the course of justice none of us&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Should see salvation: we do pray for mercy;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
And that same prayer doth teach us all to render&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The deeds of mercy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;William Shakespeare, &amp;quot;The Merchant of Venice&amp;quot;, Act 4 scene 1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Virtues]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=99_Red_Balloons&amp;diff=588471</id>
		<title>99 Red Balloons</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=99_Red_Balloons&amp;diff=588471"/>
		<updated>2008-12-16T21:43:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;&amp;quot;'''99 Red Balloons'''&amp;quot; (1983) is a pacifist pop song from German singer Nena. The red balloons symbolize many things such as air force pilots in high tech jet fighters (each one a superhero or &amp;quot;[[Captain Kirk]]&amp;quot;) or the singer's poignant wishes after her city is destroyed. The original German title is &amp;quot;99 Luftballons&amp;quot; which is translated as 99 air balloons.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.eightyeightynine.com/music/nena-99luftballoons.html lyrics in German and English]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Popular songs]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Digg&amp;diff=586953</id>
		<title>Talk:Digg</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Digg&amp;diff=586953"/>
		<updated>2008-12-15T04:04:31Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: Using &amp;quot;Digg&amp;quot; as a noun&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Using &amp;quot;Digg&amp;quot; as a noun ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically, I'm confused by this statement&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Digg has been accused of being stricter on conservatives’ posting than other groups. Digg has said that it treats all groups equally. In their defense, they have said that many of the individuals that were banned were publishing hate speech such as articles by the American Nazi Party and outright lies.}}&lt;br /&gt;
Since the website is kind of run by the readers, is it the readers/users that are stricter on conservatives, or is it the owners of the website that it's referring to?  As it is, the statement gives the website a sort of sentience, not too mention a voice with &amp;quot;Digg has said...&amp;quot;.  The last sentence talks about a plural &amp;quot;they,&amp;quot; but never defines it, considering &amp;quot;Digg&amp;quot; is used as a singular beforehand.  I'd fix it myself, but I really don't know what the intention was here.  [[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 23:04, 14 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Abomination&amp;diff=586840</id>
		<title>Abomination</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Abomination&amp;diff=586840"/>
		<updated>2008-12-15T00:14:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: undo - this should get it all&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;An '''abomination''' is anything associated with the worship of false [[gods]] or any activity that perverts the way [[God]] intended [[human]] beings to live and behave. A list of such behaviors may be found in [[Leviticus]] 18. &lt;br /&gt;
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The vagueness of its definition, combined with debates over its validity as a legal argument in United States law (considering the laws would equally apply to non-Christians) has led to numerous problems in recent years&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=142 Stem Cell Research at Debatabase]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=63 Gay Marriage at Debatabase]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=30 Abortion at Debatabase]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=186 Creationism vs. Evolution at Debatabase]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.idebate.org/debatabase/topic_details.php?topicID=174 Prayer in School at Debatabase]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Specifically, ''Lawrence v. Texas'' suggests that the era of objective morality-based legislation is at an end.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Lawrence v. Texas'', 539 U.S. 558.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Religion]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Fred_Phelps&amp;diff=586817</id>
		<title>Fred Phelps</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Fred_Phelps&amp;diff=586817"/>
		<updated>2008-12-15T00:04:12Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: /* Phelps and the politics */  don't know what happened here.  Fixed now?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[Image:Phelps.jpg|right|thumb|Fred Phelps giving an interview in 2000]]'''Fred Phelps''' is [[pastor]] of the independent [[Westboro Baptist Church]], an extremist organization not affiliated with mainstream [[Baptist]] churches, and is a controversial activist against [[homosexual]] behavior. Phelps is noted for rallies displaying signs with highly inflammatory and [[extremist]] statements.  He is said to hold a &amp;quot;[[Hyper-Calvinism|hyper-Calvinistic]] viewpoint&amp;quot; generally regarded as far outside of mainstream Christianity by most Christian scholars.  Most of the congregates of the Westboro Baptist Church, which is located in [[Topeka]], [[Kansas]], are related to Phelps either by blood or marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps has openly denounced the [[Catholic Church]] and [[Episcopal Church]] and has made claims these religious organizations tolerate and harbor homosexuals and pedophiles. He has also referred to a variety of political figures as &amp;quot;fag-enablers&amp;quot;, ranging from Republican Presidents [[Ronald Reagan]] and [[George W. Bush]] to Democrats such as [[Howard Dean]]. His views are rejected by the majority of [[conservative]] [[Christian]]s; [[evangelical]] leader [[Jerry Falwell]] referred to him as a &amp;quot;first-class nut&amp;quot;{{fact}}.&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps has led protests at military funerals based on his belief that America is a country that harbors homosexuals and is thus evil. As a result, President [[George W. Bush]] signed the Respect for America's Fallen Heroes act, which places limitations on protests at military funerals. These demonstrations led to the formation of the [[Patriot Guard]], an organization of motorcyclists who attend military funerals in order to shield the families of the deceased from the protests by members of Phelps's Westboro Baptist Church.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-09-13-funeral-protests_x.htm Funeral protesters say laws can't silence them], By Charlie Riedel, Associated Press, July 2006.  Retrieved from USA Today October 14, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Phelps is being represented by the [[ACLU]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/22/AR2006072200643.html ACLU Sues for Anti-Gay Group That Pickets at Troops' Burials], By Garance Burke, Associated Press, July 23, 2006; Page A02. Retrieved from the ''[[Washington Post]]'' October 14, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps has been an active contributor to the [[Democratic Party]] and was enthusiastic supporter of [[Al Gore]] for President in 1988.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/1999/03/lauerman.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Phelps's son, Fred Phelps, Jr., also served as a delegate for Gore. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15559&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps has since changed his opinion about Gore when he joined [[Bill Clinton]] on the 1992 presidential ticket.  Phelps turned on him and claimed Gore was a conservative icon of the Democratic Party that sold out on some critical social issues.  Phelps also demonstrated against Clinton and Gore during the 1997 inaugural. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={91058469-F6DE-4615-8B2A-73CDF3E8FCAC}  &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;    &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4179/is_20001104/ai_n11753681 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phelps' Criticism of Religious Leaders ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps runs several websites on the Internet which preach against [[homosexuality]] and immoral living.  Phelps espouses a skewed version of his own &amp;quot;literal&amp;quot; interpretation of the [[Bible]] and the holy scriptures, and speaks against mainstream religious and Christian leaders who in his view, distort or twist the literal interpretation of the Bible.  Phelps also speaks for greater accountability for religious organizations, such as the Catholic Church, and has been vocal in the press and media concerning the abuse of young boys by Catholic Priests and Church Leaders, and practicing homosexuals in the Episcopal Church.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phelps and the politics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps ran for governor of [[Kansas]] as a [[Democrat]] in 1990, 1994, and 1998.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ref4&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edition.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1998/08/05/kansas.results/ 1998 Kansas Primary Results. Compiled by Congressional Quarterly.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Phelps received 31% of the vote in Kansas's 1992 Democratic Party primary for [[U.S. Senate]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kssos.org/elections/elections_statistics.html State of Kansas Secretary of State Website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 1993 Phelps ran for mayor of [[Topeka]]. and 1997. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21229 The &amp;quot;God Hates Fags&amp;quot; [[Left]]],  By Mark D. Tooley, FrontPageMagazine.com, February 09, 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.religionnewsblog.com/1128/kansas-anti-gay-church-embarrasses-topekans Kansas anti-gay church embarrasses Topekans], November 7, 2002. Retrieved from ReligionNewsBlog.com, October 11, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He supported [[Al Gore]] in the 1988 primaries, but turned on him in the 1992 election where he staunchly opposed Gore, [[Bill Clinton|Bill]], and [[Hillary Rodham Clinton]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Phelps and Saddam Hussein ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1997, upset about [[United States]] sanctions on [[Iraq]], Phelps wrote a letter to [[Saddam Hussein]] that read, in part, ''We understand that Iraq is the only Muslim state that allows the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to be freely and openly preached on the streets without fear of arrest and prosecution. Alas, the United States no longer allows the Gospel to be freely and openly preached on the streets, because militant sodomites now control our government, and they violently object to the Bible message.'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adl.org/special_reports/wbc/wbc_on_america.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He requested, and received, permission from Hussein to protest  in Iraq. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID={91058469-F6DE-4615-8B2A-73CDF3E8FCAC}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Lawsuits and Litigation ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Phelps and his congregation were recently sued by Albert Snyder, the father of a soldier killed in Iraq. Phelps and his congregation protested the Iraq War at his son's funeral. The father sued for defamation over Phelps' statement: &amp;quot;Mr. Snyder raised his son for the devil and hell,&amp;quot; during the funeral protest and in statements on his website.  A federal jury in Baltimore awarded him nearly $11 million in a verdict against the church; Mr. Snyder won on every count of his complaint, receiving $2.9 million for compensatory damages and $8 million for punitive damages.&lt;br /&gt;
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*Phelps has also been threatened with prosecution by the Canadian Government for alleged hate speech in Canada for preaching what he has stated are the literal teachings of the Bible against homosexuality.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=15559 Gore sought help from anti-homosexual group], 'God hates fags' creator preaches 'hate because the Bible preaches hate', By Jon E. Dougherty, ''WorldNetDaily.com'', October 25, 2000.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Already picketing daily in Topeka, the Phelpses began to shower faxes on the community, targeting business and political leaders they disagreed with. After Topeka councilwoman Beth Mechler publicly doubted Phelps' claims that wild [[gay sex]] was occurring in Gage Park, Phelps responded with an insulting fax. {{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Criticism of Phelps==&lt;br /&gt;
Phelps has been criticized by a great number of individuals, both conservative and liberal. For example, [[Jerry Falwell]]  referred to Phelps as &amp;quot;a first class nut&amp;quot;. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cjonline.com/webindepth/phelps/stories/102498_protests.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Illinois Family Institute Executive Director Peter LaBarbera said &amp;quot;Fred Phelps' curious message is hardly Christian, and only fuels societal bigotry toward those who espouse genuine Biblical views on social issues like homosexuality and abortion,&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.eleventh-avenue-south.com/archives/2005/08/fred_phelps_a_p.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps was also cited during Canadian deliberations&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2007/dec/07121806.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; about declaring anti-gay sentiments to be a hate crime.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent Activities ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Phelps has recently announced that he and his group will picket the funeral service of actor [[Heath Ledger]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Outside links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://blank.org/addict/ Addicted to Hate: the story of Fred Phelps]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4413388146858417528&amp;amp;q=Westboro+Baptist+Church+BBC&amp;amp;total=2&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=0]The Most Hated Family In America&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://toiletpaperonline.typepad.com/the_blog/2006/03/how_much_do_you.html Oh yeah, and he used to be tight with Al Gore]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://rodonline.typepad.com/rodonline/2007/05/rev_fred_phelps.htmlRev. Fred Phelps' Unhinged Video Message to the Cheneys]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.adl.org/poisoning_web/homophobia.asp Poisoning the Web: Hatred Online], Anti-Defamation League (2001). Retrieved 05/23/07. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.godhatesfredphelps.com/ God Hates Fred Phelps], Retrieved from http://www.godhatesfredphelps.com/ October 25, 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Religious People|Phelps, Fred]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Activists]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Anti-war Movements]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Democratic Party]]&lt;br /&gt;
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{{DEFAULTSORT:Phelps, Fred}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>LiamG</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia&amp;diff=585999</id>
		<title>Examples of Bias in Wikipedia</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia&amp;diff=585999"/>
		<updated>2008-12-14T03:16:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: &amp;quot;result... is to conceal&amp;quot; is grammatically incorrect.  It could be &amp;quot;the goal is to conceal&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;the result is the concealing [or concealment] of&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The following is a growing list of examples of '''[[liberal bias]], [[deceit]], frivolous [[gossip]], and blatant errors on [[Wikipedia]]'''.&lt;br /&gt;
#Wikipedia's entry about [[Conservapedia]] contains four unsupported smears in its very first sentence,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and conceals from readers how Conservapedia offers free online courses for teenagers.  The result of this bias by Wikipedia, which raises money as a charity, is the concealing and demonizing of a free learning resource that Wikipedia itself does not offer. &lt;br /&gt;
#Wikipedia's entry on the [[Scopes trial]] downplays the fact that Darrow cowardly reneged in his agreement to take the witness stand, and pled his client guilty in order to avoid it.  Instead, Wikipedia deceptively claims that &amp;quot;Darrow asked the judge to bring in the jury '''only''' to have them come to a guilty verdict.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial (emphasis added)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Thanks much to a student in our [[American_History_Lectures|American History course]] for pointing this out.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[California]]'s Proposition 8 states that &amp;quot;only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.&amp;quot; The Wikipedia article&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_8_(2008)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; does not mention that only those marriages are recognized under federal law anyway, and editors have removed any mention of the federal [[Defense of Marriage Act]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:California_Proposition_8_(2008)#DOMA&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#The articles on both [[Saul Alinsky]] and his book, ''Rules for Radicals'' make no mention of his dedication to &amp;quot;the original radical&amp;amp;mdash;Lucifer.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Augusto Pinochet]], who overthrew [[communism]] in [[Chile]] and then restored democracy before voluntarily giving up power himself, is called a &amp;quot;dictator&amp;quot; by [[Wikipedia]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinochet&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but [[Fidel Castro]], the communist dictator of [[Cuba]] for four decades, is instead called a &amp;quot;leader&amp;quot; or even a &amp;quot;president&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fidel_Castro&amp;amp;oldid=235182888&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# The founder of the Weather Channel and 100's of other climatologists have been removed from the category &amp;quot;Global warming skeptics&amp;quot;, which Wikipedia decided to delete.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Coleman_(news_weathercaster)&amp;amp;diff=232272809&amp;amp;oldid=227980118&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_August_7#Global_warming_and_ozone_hole_skeptics_categories&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's entry on [[Gardasil]], an [[HPV Vaccine]] promoted by [[liberals]] and Merck, is filled with falsehoods and omits key facts.  As of Aug. 9, 2008, Wikipedia's entry claimed that cervical cancer was &amp;quot;the second leading cause of death from cancer in women world-wide&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gardasil&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (which is nonsense), and that the &amp;quot;HPV types 16 and 18 '''cause''' about 70% of cervical cancer cases&amp;quot; (not even Merck claims that); the entry downplays how the vaccine loses its effectiveness in a few years, and only about 3% of teenage recipients are likely to be exposed to the strains of HPV that the vaccine targets - at a cost of about $13,000 per child to possibly protect her against a cancer that does not arise until 30 years in the future.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See [[HPV Vaccine]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia tries to smear [[conservatives]] as &amp;quot;conspiracy theorists,&amp;quot; even when they are not, and yet omits that epithet for [[liberals]] who insist there are vast conspiracies, such as [[Hillary Clinton]]'s claim of a &amp;quot;vast right-wing conspiracy.&amp;quot;  Compare Wikipedia's entry on [[Phyllis Schlafly]], which repeats a false assertion that she &amp;quot;veers off into conspiracy theories,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phyllis_Schlafly&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; with Wikipedia's entry on Hillary Clinton, which provides her quote of a &amp;quot;vast&amp;quot; conspiracy yet refuses to describe her as a conspiracy theorist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Wikipedia's entry on [[liberal]] [[Michael Moore]], the biggest conspiracy theorist of all, does not even include any reference to the word &amp;quot;conspiracy&amp;quot;!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Moore&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's entry on the [[conservative]] [[Oklahoma]] legislator Sally Kern is seething with bias, unjustified smears and outright distortions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sally_Kern&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia understates that over 1500 supporters rallied in support of her criticisms of the [[homosexual agenda]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsok.com/article/3224704/1207238655&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and instead Wikipedia highlights predictable [[Hollywood Values|Hollywood]] criticisms of her stance.  Wikipedia then smears her with false accusations about her family and emphasizes charges that were never brought against her.  If that isn't enough, the Wikipedia entry even misrepresents a bill that Kern introduced to protect &amp;quot;a student's voluntary expression of a religious viewpoint&amp;quot;; Wikipedia relies on an anti-[[Christian]] blog to distort Kern's bill.&lt;br /&gt;
# The Wikipedia entry on [[baraminology]] (a form of taxonomy) describes it as &amp;quot;pseudoscience&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;unrelated to science&amp;quot; simply because it was devised by a creationist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/baraminology&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# If anyone posts a profane quote on Wikipedia with the expletives censored (e.g. d--n), editors quickly restore the profanity. Wikipedia's guidelines, which its liberal editors selectively ignore, suggest to include the profanity &amp;quot;if and only if&amp;quot; such expressions will contribute to the meaning of the article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Profanity&amp;amp;oldid=227187296&amp;lt;/reF&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia editors tried strenuously to come up with reasons to censor embarrassing stories about the [[liberal]] John Edwards,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Edwards&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite frequently including smears against [[conservatives]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;For example, Wikipedia ''does'' mention the [[liberal]] New York Times' poorly-researched allegations that John McCain had an affair [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain_presidential_campaign%2C_2008#Alleged_inappropriate_involvement_with_lobbyists] in spite of the fact that the NYT's own ombudsman said there was &amp;quot;no proof&amp;quot; the story was true.[http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hiZBfIDZs3P-I5ERtItxUcQ8JwGw]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Several sites have stories about Wikipedia's obvious liberal bias on this issue. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/07/28/wikipedia-disallows-any-mention-alleged-john-edwards-scandal&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://gawker.com/5029921/john-edwards-wikipedia-page-strangely-love-child+free&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://conservativepulse.com/home/2008/07/edwards-sex-scandal-still-hasnt-surfaced-in-the-mainstream-press/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's article on [[Cold fusion]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_Fusion&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; presents it as a continuing controversy. [[Liberals]] hope that Cold Fusion will rescue us from our oil dependency without the need to drill for oil off our coasts. Cold Fusion experiments are actually widely discredited.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Liberals]] loathe self-defense, and [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on the national self-defense system of the [[Strategic Defense Initiative]] is seething with bias and outright falsehoods.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Long passages are devoted to irrational criticisms of the programs, with inexplicable prominence given to criticisms by Hans Bethe, a European-raised scientist who later endorsed [[John Kerry]] for president.  The entry even claims that SDI brought &amp;quot;the nuclear standoff with the Soviet Union to its most critical point!&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] biographies for conservatives such as [[Rush Limbaugh]] and [[Michelle Malkin]] are usually saddled with large sections titled “controversies”. These “controversies” are often nothing but quotes or complaints by fringe [[liberal]] elements, and Wikipedia advises against such sections, but its liberal editors ensure the biased used of such sections.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Criticism&amp;amp;oldid=225325117&amp;lt;/reF&amp;gt; However, the Wikipedia page for “Hanoi” Jane Fonda describes her obviously controversial propagandizing for the North Vietnamese government during the Vietnam War as “political activism” rather than “controversy”. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Fonda&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wikipedia]] promoted to good status, or GA, its smear entry about Conservapedia, in which Wikipedia claims that Conservapedia &amp;quot;has received much criticism from those who have accused it of factual inaccuracies.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia#cite_ref-Clarke_6-0&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  When Conservapedia pointed out the lack of support (which violates stated Wikipedia policy) for this false smear of Conservapedia, Wikipedia simply replaced its prior cite with a new one that also failed to support its smear.  After this was pointed out, [[Wikipedia]] simply changed its sentence to try to smear Conservapedia in another way.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wikipedia]] will give often great prominence to [[liberal]] criticism of someone, while almost never giving such prominence to [[conservative]] criticism of a [[liberal]].  For example, Wikipedia's entry for [[conservative]] [[Texas]] legislator Debbie Riddle is devoted mostly to [[liberal]] criticism of an obscure quote of hers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debbie_Riddle&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But Wikipedia's entry for [[liberal]] [[Chuck Schumer]] consists of glowing praise without including any [[conservative]] criticism of him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Schumer&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[Barack Obama]] claims that he &amp;quot;was selected as an editor of the law review based on his grades and a writing competition,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; when in fact the Harvard Law Review has long used racial quotas for admission.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thecrimson.com/article.aspx?ref=513672 (partially explaining the race-based selection system)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[censorship]] omits any reference to [[liberal]] censorship of [[classroom prayer]], [[pro-life]] advertisements, [[conservative]] newspapers on college campuses, or mentioning [[intelligent design]] in school.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Instead, Wikipedia falsely claims that &amp;quot;especially [[Evangelical]]s&amp;quot; engage in censorship!&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wikipedia]] falsely smears Conservapedia by claiming that it has &amp;quot;come under significant criticism for factual inaccuracies.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In fact, such criticisms are rare or non-existent, and Wikipedia's former cite to a ''[[New York Times]]'' article for support actually criticizes [[Wikipedia]] because it &amp;quot;does dwell on the ''idea'' that 'others' have 'criticized and mocked the Conservapedia website for factual inaccuracy.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/08/conservapedia-the-word-says-it-all/ (emphasis added)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Wikipedia persists in asserting that falsehood about Conservapedia.&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Wikipedia]] gives favored treatment to anyone who promotes the [[homosexual agenda]], and smears those who oppose it.  For example, [[Robert Mapplethorpe]] glorified [[homosexuality]] in photographs before himself dying of [[AIDS]].  His own biographer identified him as a racist, providing quotes to prove it.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.frieze.com/issue/article/mapplethorpe_a_biography_patricia_morrisroe/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Yet the [[Wikipedia]] entry about him conceals any reference to his racism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapplethorpe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Meanwhile, [[Wikipedia]] smears the [[American Family Association]] and claims it is racist for reasons not supported by its citation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Family_Association#Anti-Semitism (March 2005 issue reference)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's article on [[atheism]] fails to mention that [[United States|American]] [[atheist]]s [[Atheism and Uncharitableness|give significantly less to charity than American theists on a per capita basis]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, Wikipedia's article on atheism fails to mention [[Atheism and deception|how key proponents of atheism have been deceptive]].  Wikipedia's article on [[atheism]] also fails to mention that [[Christianity and Science|Christianity and not atheism was foundational in regards to the development of modern science]]. Wikipedia's article attempts to associate atheism with scientific progress.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Wikipedia's article on atheism fails to mention that [[Atheism and suicide|atheism is a causal factor for suicide]].&lt;br /&gt;
#Given that one of Wikipedia's co-founders, [[Jimbo Wales]], is an [[atheism|atheist]], it is not particularly surprising that [[Wikipedia]] is particularly biased against prayer in school, as illustrated by its description of Coach [[Marcus Borden]]'s attempts merely to bow his head while his football players pray. [[Wikipedia]]'s biased description disparages community support of Borden by saying it is &amp;quot;regardless of federal law&amp;quot;; the entry says he returned to coaching as urged by the community &amp;quot;ostensibly&amp;quot; to assert a right to bow his head during prayer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Brunswick_Public_Schools#Controversy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] has an entry on &amp;quot;Gun Politics in the United States&amp;quot; that falsely claims that &amp;quot;Gun politics as a political issue dates to the earliest days of the United States.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_the_United_States&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It shows a statue of a Revolutionary Minuteman carrying a rifle as &amp;quot;proof&amp;quot; of its claim!  Wikipedia's entry is astoundingly biased, concealing how guns deter crime and refusing to cite [[John Lott]], the leading expert whose studies support guns.&lt;br /&gt;
#''[[Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed]]'' is listed under the category &amp;quot;American propaganda films&amp;quot;, alongside other [[conservative]] documentary films.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:American_propaganda_films&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, the lying, deceitful films of [[Michael Moore]] and other [[liberals]] are never described as &amp;quot;propaganda&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
#Here's another example of why [[Wikipedia]] is declining:  it locked its entry about [[Richard Dawkins]] to censor one of his quotes, despite being verified with a reference.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Richard_Dawkins&amp;amp;diff=next&amp;amp;oldid=162688862&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Perhaps the [[atheists]] on [[Wikipedia]] don't want people to learn what Dawkins really said!  After criticism here, Wikipedia eventually unlocked the entry.&lt;br /&gt;
# The body of the [[Islamic terrorism]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism#.22Islamic.22_terrorism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; page opens with ''&amp;quot;Islamic terrorism&amp;quot; is itself a controversial phrase'' while the body of the Christian terrorism&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Racism.2C_Sexism.2C_.26_Terrorism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; page opened with ''Juergensmeyer wrote, &amp;quot;It is good to remember, however, that despite its central tenets of love and peace, Christianity - like most traditions - has always had a violent side.&amp;quot;'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#Theological_justification_of_Christian_violence&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] has an extensive entry on &amp;quot;[[Creation]] myth&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_myth&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Describing [[Creationism]] as a &amp;quot;myth&amp;quot; is yet another attempt to disparage [[Christian]]s, and although the [[Evolution|theory of evolution]] satisfies Wikipedia's definition of &amp;quot;myth&amp;quot;, Wikipedia never describes it as a &amp;quot;myth&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[Peter Singer]] downplayed his advocacy for infanticide and moral disdain for human life. Quotes such as &amp;quot;Simply killing an infant is never equivalent to killing a person&amp;quot; were ''removed'' as being &amp;quot;POV&amp;quot;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Singer&amp;amp;diff=200849646&amp;amp;oldid=199494933&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite appearing in the like-minded ''[[New York Times]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Paul Zielbauer, [http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E2D91530F930A25753C1A96F958260 Princeton Bioethics Professor Debates Views on Disability and Euthanasia]. ''The New York Times'': Oct. 13, 1999&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A week after this criticism,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Examples_of_Bias_in_Wikipedia&amp;amp;diff=443352&amp;amp;oldid=443152&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; an editor restored the former quote.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Peter_Singer&amp;amp;diff=209935940&amp;amp;oldid=209392718&amp;lt;/reF&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Predictably, [[Wikipedia]] insists on a completely biased, one-sided, negative entry about the movie ''[[Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed]]'', and then locked the page to prevent balance from being included.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In characteristic fashion, [[Wikipedia]] misrepresents the views of those it dislikes, and uses smears (like &amp;quot;conspiracy-theory,&amp;quot; a favorite Wikipedia epithet) to [[demonize]] them.  Also in [[Wikipedia]]-style, it quotes [[liberal]] newspaper opinions as though they are fact, but ignores, downplays or censors opposite published opinions (e.g., by [[National Review]]).&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] changes the meaning of a key quote from an [[abortion]]-breast cancer article in the Lancet medical journal (Beral, ''et al.''), falsely stating that it &amp;quot;concluded that [[abortion]] does 'not increase a woman's risk of developing breast cancer.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-breast_cancer_hypothesis&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Lancet article said no such thing about a woman's decision to have an abortion, which does increase the woman's risk of breast cancer.  Rather, the Lancet article limited its assertion to a claim about the overall effect of a ''pregnancy'' that terminates early.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15051280&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] described the [[People for the American Way]], which is a [[liberal]] advocacy group,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200507060931.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as a &amp;quot;progressive advocacy organization&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_For_the_American_Way&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and did not mention the term [[liberal]] in its lengthy description of it until well after this deficiency was first mentioned here.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=People_For_the_American_Way&amp;amp;diff=198768678&amp;amp;oldid=195716955&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# On Feb. 19, 2008, an editor removed bias in the form of incorrect and misleading information&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The article incorrectly refers to the sticker as &amp;quot;creationist&amp;quot;, and claims that &amp;quot;Claiming that evolution is &amp;quot;only a theory&amp;quot; ... is a common creationist tactic.&amp;quot;, ignoring that the largest creationists groups specifically reject this tactic.[http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/2996/84/#just_theory]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; from the [[Wikipedia]] entry about evolution stickers in Cobb County, Georgia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Selman_v._Cobb_County_School_District&amp;amp;diff=192393310&amp;amp;oldid=190591826&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The editor then predicted on [[Conservapedia]] that the [[liberal bias]] would inevitably be reinserted at Wikipedia, and it was: within 8 hours the liberal falsehoods and bias were reinserted by a Wikipedian.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Selman_v._Cobb_County_School_District&amp;amp;diff=next&amp;amp;oldid=192393310&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] allows hundreds of thousands of obscure and offensive entries, such as unsuccessful punk rock groups and silly television shows.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'oh Such as the entry on D'oh]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But within hours [[liberals]] on [[Wikipedia]] completely deleted an informative and well-referenced entry about [[Hollywood Values]], in order to censor examples of how the [[liberal]] ideology harms people.  (This deletion occurred on Feb. 15, 2008; the deleting administrator considered the page to be &amp;quot;vandalism&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;amp;type=&amp;amp;user=&amp;amp;page=Hollywood+values&amp;amp;year=&amp;amp;month=-1&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After the first deletion, another Wikipedia user re-created the &amp;quot;Hollywood values&amp;quot; article as a joke with just this sentence: &amp;quot;Aw, whine, why can't Andrew Schlafly's perspective be told here??? After all, he runs the Trusworthy Encyclopedia!!!&amp;lt;/snark&amp;gt; Sorry, please don't block me.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Huw_Powell&amp;amp;oldid=226552177#February_2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] often smears [[conservatives]] with falsehoods, using references that do not support its claim.  For example, [[Wikipedia]] falsely claims that &amp;quot;children&amp;quot; wrote most of the initial entries on [[Conservapedia]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but [[Wikipedia]]'s references for that claim do not even mention &amp;quot;children&amp;quot;.  The average age of contributors on [[Conservapedia]] is likely older than on [[Wikipedia]], so its smear is particularly hypocritical.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[conservative]] [[Ron Paul]] smears him with unsubstantiated statements (newsletter &amp;quot;issues gave tactical advice to right-wing militia groups and advanced various conspiracy theories&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ron_Paul&amp;amp;oldid=183792833&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), misleading attributions of statements (Paul renounced the statements in 2001), and an overall political hatchet job ... and then locks the page to prevent correction!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The page was locked from January 8 to August 6, 2008. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&amp;amp;type=protect&amp;amp;user=&amp;amp;page=Ron+Paul&amp;amp;year=&amp;amp;month=-1]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[Benazir Bhutto]] has nearly 8,000 words on all aspects of her life, and yet not one word acknowledging that she was [[pro-life]] and led the movement against the [[United Nations]]' creating a new international right to [[abortion]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Type in &amp;quot;[[conservative]]&amp;quot; on [[Wikipedia]] and you will be redirected to over 4500 words of confusion without any mention of [[marriage]], gun rights or personal accountability.  [[Wikipedia]] even claims that [[conservatives]] opposed to [[abortion]] are described as &amp;quot;anti-baby&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;anti-family&amp;quot;.  [[Wikipedia]] removed this bias only after it was identified here.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;That statement remained on the article from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conservatism&amp;amp;diff=173316636&amp;amp;oldid=173314241 November 23] to [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conservatism&amp;amp;diff=next&amp;amp;oldid=179870132 December 26, 2007]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# The [[Wikipedia]] entry on [[conservative]] [[Rick Scarborough]] falsely claimed that he said that [[HPV]], a sexually transmitted disease, is [[God]]'s punishment for sexually active young women.  [[Wikipedia]] admits it has no support for this claim, yet has allowed the statement to remain in his entry for most of 2007.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] entries contain [[liberal]] claims followed by citations that do not actually support the claims.  For example, [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[Michael Farris]] states that it &amp;quot;was speculated that Farris' close connection to [[conservative]] leaders ... alienated some voters&amp;quot; in his campaign for lieutenant governor,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Farris&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but its citation for that [[liberal]] claim actually attributes his loss to his opponent's [[television]] ads that (falsely) claimed Farris wanted &amp;quot;to ban children's books such as 'The Wizard of Oz', 'Rumpelstiltskin,' and 'Cinderella'.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2519/is_n1_v15/ai_14891141&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# In a typical example of [[placement bias]] on [[Wikipedia]], it claims in its first sentence that [[Matthew Shepard]] was murdered &amp;quot;because of his [[homosexuality]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Shepard&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Only  near the end of the entry does [[Wikipedia]] quote a 20/20 report and knowledgeable sources which provide persuasive evidence that the crime was caused by drugs, not hatred towards [[homosexuality]].&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s pervasive anonymous editing vandalizes numerous [[conservative]] entries, such as that of [[pro-life]] scholar [[Mary Ann Glendon]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Glendon&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For nearly two weeks her entry on [[Wikipedia]] has featured the disrespectful and unsupported statement that &amp;quot;She is a notable pro-life feminist, and ''a fan of the Dropkick Murphys,&amp;quot; which is a punk rock group''. [[Liberal]] editors monitor anonymous editing, but often allow attempts to embarrass [[conservatives]] to remain for a long time.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] allows countless entries flattering obscure [[liberals]], but lacks many entries about leading [[conservatives]]. For example, the [[Wikipedia]] entry on pro-life leader [[Judie Brown]] was previously nothing but a redirect&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Judie_Brown&amp;amp;redirect=no&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to an entry about an organization which barely mentions her.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Life_League&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A proper page for her has since been added&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judie_Brown&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] lies to exaggerate the credentials of [[atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]], falsely claiming that Dawkins &amp;quot;was appointed Simonyi Professor for the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Dawkins&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In fact, [[Oxford]] recently confirmed that the &amp;quot;Charles Simonyi Professorship for the Public Understanding of Science has not as yet been filled, although it was established in 1995 by decree.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Richard_Dawkins&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[Richard Sternberg]] has falsely stated that a journal &amp;quot;withdrew&amp;quot; a peer-reviewed [[intelligent design]] paper that he reviewed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sternberg&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In fact, the journal never withdrew the paper.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] has a strong bias against the [[Discovery Institute]], a prominent proponent of [[intelligent design]]. Wikipedia articles about the Institute's campaigns (Physicians and Surgeons who Dissent from Darwinism&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physicians_and_Surgeons_who_Dissent_from_Darwinism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and A Scientific Dissent From Darwinism&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scientific_Dissent_From_Darwinism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) devote most space to the criticism of the campaigns, instead of describing the campaigns themselves.&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] displays a similar bias against the [[Institute for Creation Research]] and its affiliated graduate school--or else displays an appalling lack of critical thinking for a publication that calls itself an encyclopedia. Their reportage on the controversies surrounding the accreditation of the [[ICR Graduate School]], first in [[California]] and now in [[Texas]], relies almost totally on the rants and raves by the group calling itself Texas Citizens for Science and fails utterly to consider or even to mention several key facts about those controversies.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_for_Creation_Research Institute for Creation Research] by [[Wikipedia]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;tes&amp;gt;Schafersman,&amp;quot; Steven. &amp;quot;[http://www.texscience.org/reviews/icr-thecb-certification.htm The Institute for Creation Research and It's (''sic'') Quest for Official Texas Certification to Award Masters Degrees in Science Education].&amp;quot; ''Texas Citizens for Science'', December 17, 2007; updated January 6 and January 28, 2008. Accessed March 19, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;rae&amp;gt;Bergman,&amp;quot; Jerry. &amp;quot;[http://www.rae.org/ICRcase.html The Religion of Vague: An Unsuccessful Attempt by the State of California to Close a College].&amp;quot; ''Revolution Against Evolution'', May 22, 2003. Accessed March 19, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on the [[Prodigal Son]] devotes more words to obscure rock band and [[liberal media]] references to it (e.g., &amp;quot;'The Prodigal Son' is the Season 2 opener of the TV series Miami Vice, although it has virtually nothing to do with the parable itself.&amp;quot;) than to the parable and its spiritual meaning.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]]'s [[gossip]] and policy in favor of edits by anonymous IP addresses struck again: for over two weeks the entry on former [[U.S. Supreme Court]] Justice [[Byron White]] stated he was the father of former Cowboy great Danny White.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Byron_White&amp;amp;diff=159734800&amp;amp;oldid=154431838&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The statement was utterly false, but misled everyone who read that.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.funtrivia.com/en/subtopics/Are-They-Related-213708.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# [[Wikipedia]] displays pervasive bias in making [[liberal]] statements with citations that do not support the statements, as illustrated by its entry about [[Conservapedia]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Wikipedia]] states that &amp;quot;Conservapedia has asserted that Wikipedia is 'six times more [[liberal]] than the American public', a statistic which has been criticized for its poor extrapolation and lack of credibility.&amp;quot; But the two citations for this claim of &amp;quot;poor extrapolation and lack of credibility&amp;quot; are to articles that say nothing about extrapolation or credibility and instead tend to confirm the [[liberal bias]] on [[Wikipedia]].&lt;br /&gt;
# A user named [[Richard Dawkins]] apparently edited his own article on [[Wikipedia]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/RichardDawkins&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and even linked to a DVD being sold from his personal website. Illustrating [[Wikipedia]]'s favoritism towards [[liberals]], it took a long time (well over a year after he first edited his own article)&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:RichardDawkins&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; for anybody to confront this well-known [[atheist]] for this conflict of interest, despite being against [[Wikipedia]]'s own rules.&lt;br /&gt;
# Arbitration Committee member Fred Bauder told the Wikien-1 mailing list in regards to [[Michael Moore]], whose official website published attacks on a [[Wikipedia]] editor with an open invitation to vandalize [[Wikipedia]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Attack_sites/Evidence# Michael_Moore] and was proposed to be designated as an Attack site, &amp;quot;Obviously we need to make an exception for prominent people whose viewpoint we support. And by the way, I am not joking. Writing this down in black and white is important, if that is what we do in practice. And, if it not clear, I support him too, although I am not enamored of anyone's [[propaganda]]. Even that which supports my own position.&amp;quot; [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-October/082987.html] When asked, &amp;quot;How, then, is this remotely compatible with NPOV?&amp;quot;, Bauder responded, &amp;quot;Not at all.&amp;quot; [http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-October/082993.html] [[Wikipedia]]'s Neutral Point of View (NPOV), laid down by founder [[Jimbo Wales]] allegedly is &amp;quot;absolute and non-negotiable.&amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view][http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view# _note-0] The editor Michaelmoore.com was urging its viewers to attack and harass is described as &amp;quot;a Fellow at the [[American Enterprise Institute]], a [[conservative]] [[think tank]].&amp;quot;[http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2007-October/083230.html] &lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] heavily promotes [[liberals]] in inappropriate places. Go to Wikipedia's entry on ''[[Boy Scouts v. Dale]]'', a [[conservative]] [[Supreme Court]] decision, and for months you'd see a top-screen promotion for &amp;quot;gay/lesbian rights advocate&amp;quot; Evan Wolfson with a claim that he is &amp;quot;one of the '100 most influential people in the world.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boy_Scouts_of_America_v._Dale&amp;amp;oldid=152256885 (quoting a 2004 [[liberal]] list by Time magazine).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Wikipedia]] eventually removed that [[liberal]] promotion, but kept its inappropriate emphasis on this attorney who, by the way, lost this case.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boy_Scouts_of_America_v._Dale&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] has once again deleted all content on the [[North American Union]] [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=North_american_union&amp;amp;redirect=no]. The old pages are inaccessible, and re-creation is blocked.&lt;br /&gt;
#  For a long time [[Wikipedia]] led with a falsehood in describing [[Conservapedia]]: &amp;quot;Conservapedia is a wiki based web encyclopedia project with '''the stated purpose''' of creating an encyclopedia written from a socially and economically conservative viewpoint supportive of Conservative Christianity and '''Young Earth creationism'''.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Conservapedia&amp;amp;oldid=160604712 (emphasis added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That was defamatory in attempting to smear [[Conservapedia]] in front of [[Wikipedia]]'s [[evolutionist]] audience. [[Wikipedia]] also welcomes edits by anonymous IP addresses to the [[Conservapedia]] and other entries, resulting in frequent defamation.&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] has a lengthy entry on &amp;quot;Jesus H. Christ,&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_H._Christ&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; a term that is an idiotic mockery of the [[Christian]] [[faith]]. [[Wikipedia]] calls the term &amp;quot;often humorous,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;joking&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;comedic&amp;quot;, and relishes in repeating disrespectful uses of the term, without admitting that the phrase is an anti-[[Christian]] mockery. Meanwhile, [[Wikipedia]] does not describe mockery of any other religion as &amp;quot;humorous&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
#  The [[Wikipedia]] article on [[Eritrea]] refuses to concede that [[Eritrea]] is a one-party state.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eritrea&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Another example of [[Wikipedia]] [[liberal bias]]: &amp;quot;Oh, they aren't really a dictatorship, their charter specifically denies it!&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] often inserts bias by downplaying a [[liberal]] outrage or fallacy amid thousands of words of nearly irrelevant information. For example, no one credibly disputes that [[liberals]] forced [[Larry Summers]] to resign as president of [[Harvard]] because he dared to suggest that the under-representation of women in math, science and engineering may be due to innate differences between women and men.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.davisenterprise.com/articles/2007/09/14/news/114new1.txt&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A19181-2005Jan18.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But the verbose entry for Larry Summers on [[Wikipedia]] implies that his obscure other positions were more important in causing his ouster.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Summers&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] welcomes and allows edits by anonymous IP addresses, which results in rampant vandalism that is overwhelmingly [[liberal]]. Credible wikis, including [[Conservapedia]], do not permit editing by anonymous IP addresses.&lt;br /&gt;
#  For nearly two months, from at least as early as July 15 through September 9, 2007, [[Wikipedia]] classified its critics, including [[Conservapedia]], as &amp;quot;Fanatics and Special Interests.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Criticism_of_Wikipedia&amp;amp;oldid=144741567# Fanatics_and_special_interests&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] has two million entries, but not one for [[liberal]]. Users who go to that term are ''redirected'' to the Wikipedia entry on [[liberalism]] that conceals the [[liberal]] support of [[gun control]] and taxpayer funding of [[abortion]], and [[liberal]] censorship of [[prayer]] in [[public school]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberal&amp;amp;redirect=no&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]], its own entries (including talk pages) filled with smears and [[deceit]], features an entry on &amp;quot;deceit (album)&amp;quot; that gushes with a description of it as &amp;quot;austere, brilliant and indescribable&amp;quot; music that is &amp;quot;post-punk&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deceit_(album)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The word &amp;quot;deceit&amp;quot; has no entry on [[Wikipedia]]. It was ''redirected'' to a different term having a different meaning, and then this redirect was changed 7 times in two days in response to this criticism here.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Deceit&amp;amp;action=history&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Even now it lacks a clear definition and the numerous examples provided in the entry on [[deceit]] here.&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] promotes suicide with 21,544 entries that mention this depravity, including many entries that feature it (Conservapedia will not provide citations to the more depraved entries on this subject at Wikipedia as Conservapedia affirms the [[Sanctity of Life|sanctity of life]]). For example, Wikipedia referred to it needlessly in the very first sentence of distinguished jurist Henry Friendly's entry,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Henry_Friendly&amp;amp;oldid=151873451&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and Wikipedia's entry about [[Zerah Colburn]] ended with a claim that his distant ''nephew'' committed suicide.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zerah_Colburn_(math_prodigy)&amp;amp;oldid=147253074&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After this criticism appeared here, these two entries were fixed (and in the case of Friendly, reinstated before being fixed again); there has been no system-wide removal of this bias on [[Wikipedia]]. In yet another example, [[Wikipedia]] has an entry for &amp;quot;suicide by cop&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicide_by_cop&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to discuss attacking a police officer to provoke a suicide, citing an unpublished PhD thesis at an obscure university.&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]] uses guilt-by-association far worse than [[Joseph McCarthy]] ever did. [[Wikipedia]] smears numerous persons and organizations by giving the false impression that they are associated with the [[John Birch Society]] (JBS). Examples have included:&lt;br /&gt;
#* pro-life Congressman [[Jerry Costello]], merely because JBS gave him a favorable rating&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_Costello&amp;amp;oldid=142488803&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#* anti-communist Fred Schwarz, merely because JBS agreed with him&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fred_Schwarz&amp;amp;oldid=143791808&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#* the conservative [[Association of American Physicians and Surgeons]], by repeating a '''40 year old''' newspaper claim that some of its leaders once belonged to the JBS&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#* conservative baseball pitcher Dave Dravecky, a cancer survivor, merely because a newspaper claimed he once belonged to JBS&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dave_Dravecky&amp;amp;oldid=155924640&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  In response to this criticism, Wikipedia removed ... only the smears against the more [[liberal]] targets, such as the ''[[Democrat]]'' [[Jerry Costello]], or the less influential entries, such as the deceased Fred Schwarz. Additionally, as of August 5, 2008, the Dravecky article no longer mentions anything about JBS.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dave_Dravecky&amp;amp;oldid=225907517&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia left intact the smear against the AAPS. After removal of the smear against Costello, it was then reinserted before being removed again.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jerry_Costello&amp;amp;diff=156607328&amp;amp;oldid=156100194&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Wikipedia]]'s last sentence on [[Human Life International]] claimed that a killer &amp;quot;confessed that pamphets (sic) from the group led&amp;quot; him to kill. This is a complete lie designed to smear a [[conservative]] group. But this was approved by [[Wikipedia]] and remained for over a month.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Human_Life_International&amp;amp;oldid=138698827] Only in response to Conservapedia's criticism was the smear removed.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  A devastating critique of [[Wikipedia]] by [[Fox News]] describes the impact of [[Wikipedia]] smears on popular golfer Fuzzy Zoeller.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;In addition to the [[Fox News]] report, numerous stories on the Internet describe the smears, which we will not repeat here. &amp;quot;The Wikipedia entry has since been cleansed of the remarks, first posted last August, then again in December before being removed January 2nd. However, several sites like Answers.com have copies of Wikipedia entries, and as of press time still had the defamatory content in place.&amp;quot;[http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/02/22/fuzzy-zoeller-incensed-over-wikipedia-edit]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Smears in [[Wikipedia]]'s entry on [[United States of America|U.S.]] Congressman Steve LaTourette were totally false.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1184402220217510.xml&amp;amp;coll=2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# &amp;quot;[[Larry Sanger]], who founded [[Wikipedia]] in 2001 with [[Jimmy Wales]] only to leave shortly afterwards, said that even as far back as 2001 the [[Wikipedia]] community 'had no respect for experts.'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.siliconrepublic.com/news/news.nv?storyid=single8794&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  The Wikipedia entry for [[homosexuality]] is adorned with the a rainbow graphic but fails to mention the following: the many [[disease]]s associated with homosexuality, the high promiscuity rates of the male homosexual community, the higher incidences of [[Homosexual Couples and Domestic Violence|domestic violence]] among homosexual couples compared to heterosexual couples, and the substantially higher mental illness and drug usage rates of the homosexuality community. In addition, the Wikipedia article on homosexuality fails to mention that the American Psychiatric Association issued a fact sheet in May of 2000 stating that &amp;quot;..there are no replicated scientific studies supporting a specific biological etiology for homosexuality.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cwfa.org/images/content/bornorbred.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikpedia's entry on [[liberal]] former Vice President [[Al Gore]] contains no mention of the drug charges against his son.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But Wikipedia's entry on [[conservative]] Vice President [[Dick Cheney]] prominently mentions his adult daughter's sexuality.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Cheney&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry for seven weeks about [[Thad Cochran]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thad_Cochran&amp;amp;oldid=135420256 (revised only after being exposed on Conservapedia, but then the smear was reinserted again before being removed again)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; a conservative Republican member of the [[U.S. Senate]], smeared him with an offensive, unsupported quotation not of Cochran, but of a Democratic Mississippi governor for whom Cochran's mother campaigned when Cochran was age 14. The unsupported quote was never spoken or endorsed by Cochran, but Wikipedia featured it near the top of Cochran's entry to mislead the reader into thinking Cochran is somehow a racist.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia smears prominent [[Conservative Christianity|Christian conservatives]], including [[James Dobson]] and [[D. James Kennedy]], with an allegation that they are part of a grand scheme Wikipedia calls &amp;quot;Dominionism&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The term was made up by [[liberals]] and this conspiracy theory has no factual basis, but Wikipedia smears these [[conservatives]] with elaborate templates in their own entries depicting them as part of this fictional scheme.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See, e.g., [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._James_Kennedy D. James Kennedy]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This edit [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Eagle_Forum&amp;amp;curid=3647552&amp;amp;diff=165330150&amp;amp;oldid=165044484] calls Eagle Forum dominionist, even though there is not even any source that says so. The Eagle Forum article now has a &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; section that alleges various associations with theocracy and dominionism citing various left-wing opinion web sites, but none of those sites even says that Eagle Forum supports theocracy or dominionism. One editor was blocked just for trying to fix it.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry about the anti-[[Christian]] and anti-[[Semitic]] [[H.L. Mencken]] praises him profusely because he, Wikipedia's words, &amp;quot;notably assaulted America's preoccupation with [[Christian fundamentalism|fundamentalist]] [[Christianity]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mencken&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After 3,500 words of adulation, Wikipedia then buries a concession that Mencken &amp;quot;has been referred to as anti-Semitic and misogynistic.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Ibid.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedians like Mencken's hostility to religion too much to admit that his biographer (Terry Teachout) and his close Jewish friend (Charles Angoff) described him as racist and anti-Semitic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://cjrarchives.org/issues/2003/1/mencken-payne.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entries about the 2007 Masters&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Masters_Tournament&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and its champion [[Zach Johnson]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Zach_Johnson&amp;amp;oldid=154500732&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who won an upset come-from-behind victory against Tiger Woods, omitted any reference to Johnson's public statements crediting his [[faith]] in [[Jesus Christ]] for strengthening him as he overcame enormous odds to prevail. Months later, after criticism here, Johnson's attibution to [[Jesus Christ]] was included, but with the [[Wikipedia]] trick of placing it late in a wordy entry so that few are likely to see it, and even then with a silly &amp;quot;citation needed&amp;quot; to suggest that the quote may not be true.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zach_Johnson&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia asserts that &amp;quot;One 1987 estimate found that more than 99.84% of almost 500,000 US scientists in the earth and life sciences supported evolution over creation science.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Level_of_support_for_evolution&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This statement is false, but Wikipedians won't correct it and it has been repeated thousands of times by other [[liberals]] in reliance on Wikipedia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070519145312AACvfJA&amp;amp;show=7&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The truth is that 700 scientists signed a statement rejecting evolution, but evolutionists then made the illogical claim that a large majority of other scientists must support evolution.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;By one count there are some 700 scientists (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) who give credence to creation-science, the general theory that complex life forms did not evolve but appeared 'abruptly'.&amp;quot; Martz, Larry &amp;amp; Ann McDaniel (1987-06-29), &amp;quot;Keeping God out of the Classroom (Washington and bureau reports)&amp;quot;, Newsweek CIX(26): 23-24, ISSN 0028-9604&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Under that reasoning, if 1000 persons signed a statement opposing President [[George W. Bush]], then nearly 300 million Americans must support him! Funny how Wikipedia does not claim that.&lt;br /&gt;
#  The 5,400-word Wikipedia entry on The John Birch Society&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_John_Birch_Society&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; attempts to smear unrelated [[conservatives]] who had nothing to do with the society, simply by calling them &amp;quot;allies&amp;quot;. Under that reasoning [[Ronald Reagan]], [[Pope John Paul II]], and [[George W. Bush]] should also be in that entry! And this is by a resource that criticizes [[McCarthyism]]???&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia has a substantial anti-intellectual element, as reflected by silly administrator names and nonsensical entries. For a long time Wikipedia had an entry for &amp;quot;duh&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;Duh is an American English slang exclamation that is used to express disdain for someone missing the obviousness of something. For example, if one read a headline saying 'Scientific study proves pain really does hurt' or 'New reports show death is bad for one's health', the response might be 'Well, duh!'&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wikipedia ultimately deleted its entry after it was critized here&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; How about a new slogan: ''Wikipedia: well, duh!''&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia recently moved further away from Judaeo-Christian beliefs by complaining that &amp;quot;[t]he average Wikipedian ... is from a predominantly Christian country&amp;quot; and that Wikipedia was built on Christian encyclopedias and &amp;quot;the Jewish Encyclopedia.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias (later &amp;quot;predominantly Christian&amp;quot; was changed to &amp;quot;nominally Christian&amp;quot;)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; At the same time, Wikipedia complains about the &amp;quot;enormous significance&amp;quot; given by entries to &amp;quot;Al-Qaeda attacks on the U.S., UK and Spain, killing slightly over 3,000 people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Ibid.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia has a banner to criticize an American treatment of a topic: &amp;quot;The examples and perspective in this article or section may not represent a worldwide view of the subject.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campaign_finance&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;quot;A worldwide view&amp;quot; is fictional [[liberal]] terminology for [[globalists]].&lt;br /&gt;
#  Though Wikipedia is non-profit, the Wikia project of its co-founder is very much for-profit and has raised millions of dollars in investments. Already Wikipedia has been criticized for favoring Wikia. When Wikipedia community voted 61-39% percent to treat all links to other sites equally by removing nofollow (Google-ignored) tags for all of them, the Wikipedia co-founder overruled this decision and Wikipedia now favors Wikia in its treatment of nofollow tags.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/04/28/wikipedia-special-treatment-for-wikia-and-other-wikis/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia is sympathetic to Fidel Castro in its entry about Cuba.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia blames President Dwight Eisenhower for choosing &amp;quot;to attend a golf tournament&amp;quot; rather than meet the revolutionary Castro in 1959, and then Wikipedia claims that Castro became a communist because of the American-backed Bay of Pigs invasion in 1961. Conservapedia tells the truth up-front: &amp;quot;Cuba has been ruled by a communist dictator named Fidel Castro since 1959.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Cuba]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Often Wikipedia's biased assertions are unsupported by its citations. For example, the Wikipedia entry about Conservapedia states that it &amp;quot;has come under significant criticism for alleged factual inaccuracies.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But check out Wikipedia's cited source for that statement: its citation does not identify a single factual inaccuracy on Conservapedia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://chronicle.com/wiredcampus/index.php?id=1910&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Thus Wikipedia relies on a factual inaccuracy to accuse someone else of factual inaccuracies! After this criticism was posted here, Wikipedia removed the said citation but replaced it with a few other biased citations.&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Liberal]] icon [[Bertrand Russell]] receives glowing adoration on Wikipedia, which calls him &amp;quot;a prophet of the creative and rational life,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;one of the world's best-known intellectuals&amp;quot; whose &amp;quot;voice carried great moral authority, even into his mid 90s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bertrand_Russell&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After 7,700 words about [[Bertrand Russell]], [[Wikipedia]] finally mentions Russell's support of the communist revolution, but pretends that Russell quickly opposed it. Instead, Russell wrote that &amp;quot;I believe that [[Communism]] is necessary to the world, and I believe ... Bolshevism deserves the gratitude and admiration of all the progressive part of mankind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Bertrand Russell]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  [[Conservapedia]] allows greater and easier copying of its materials than [[Wikipedia]] does, but Wikipedia's entry about [[Conservapedia]] claims that its policy &amp;quot;has led to some concerns.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; And who supposedly had these concerns? In Wikipedia's citation, it was only the founder of Wikipedia in trying to find a way to criticize Conservapedia!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thestar.com/sciencetech/article/190501&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  April 24th was the anniversary of [[Operation Eagle Claw]], which was President [[Jimmy Carter]]'s failed attempt to rescue American hostages in Iran. The Conservapedia [[Operation Eagle Claw|entry]] explains Carter's political motivation for this. But the Wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw entry] omits Carter's political motivation and instead implies that this bad luck cost Carter the election.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wikipedia states, &amp;quot;The operation was a failure, and had a severe impact on U.S. President Jimmy Carter's re-election prospects ....&amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw entry]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In fact, Newsweek did not even mention this after July 14th, and Reagan beat Carter for reasons other than bad luck. &lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry on James Monroe&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Monroe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; omits any mention of how he was a conservative and omits Monroe's veto of a key appropriation on the Cumberland Road Bill, when Monroe stated that &amp;quot;congress does not possess the power under the constitution to pass such a law.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[James Monroe]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After this criticism was posted here, an editor at Wikipedia added Monroe's Cumberland Road Bill opposition to the article,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=James_Monroe&amp;amp;oldid=226448821#Presidency_1817.E2.80.931825:_The_Era_of_Good_Feelings&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but the article still has yet to mention that Monroe was politically conservative.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Polls show that about twice as many Americans identify themselves as &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; compared with &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot;, and that ratio has been increasing for two decades.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.harrisinteractive.com/harris_poll/index.asp?PID=444&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But on Wikipedia, about three times as many editors identify themselves as &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; compared with &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Based on a comparison of how many users are under categories [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Liberal_Wikipedians Liberal Wikipedians] with those in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Conservative_Wikipedians Conservative Wikipedians]. Both categories were [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/August_2007#Category:All_Wikipedian_by_political_ideology_categories deleted] on Aug. 10, 2007 as editors have argued that &amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:SOAP Wikipedia is not a soapbox]&amp;quot; among other reasons. However, the userboxes for users to declare themselves as &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rcej/conservative conservative]&amp;quot; have been allowed to stay. Wikipedia's own records show, as of July 28, 2008, that far more users choose the &amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&amp;amp;target=User%3AUBX%2Fliberal&amp;amp;namespace= liberal]&amp;quot; userbox than the &amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/User:Rcej/conservative conservative]&amp;quot; userbox.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That suggests '''Wikipedia is six times more [[liberal]] than the American public'''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;Liberal bias&amp;quot; can be defined as the ratio of [[liberals]] to conservatives in a group, such that no [[liberals]] would equate to zero [[liberal bias]]. Wikipedia's ratio of 3:1 for liberals to conservatives is six times the ratio in the American public of 1:2 for [[liberals]] to conservatives.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also [[liberal quotient]].&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia awarded &amp;quot;good article&amp;quot; status&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Good_articles&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; to a biased description of [[liberal]] Balboa High School, saying it has &amp;quot;a progressively nurturing environment&amp;quot; undergoing &amp;quot;a steady renaissance marked by academic innovation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balboa_High_School_(San_Francisco)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Nowhere in Wikipedia's 4,468-word description does it admit that half the 9th graders lacked proficiency on a statewide English test.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jill Tucker, &amp;quot;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/16/MNGE2KJB5K1.DTL Student Successes Defy Urban Trends]&amp;quot; San Francisco Chronicle (Aug. 16, 2006).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Instead, Wikipedia editors apparently like how this public school converted its metal shop into a sex-based &amp;quot;health&amp;quot; clinic. &lt;br /&gt;
#  One can confirm that sex-related entries are attracting many to Wikipedia, including young viewers, by viewing [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Statistics Wikipedia statistics]. But Wikipedia gives no specific warning to parents or viewers about the pornographic images on popular pages, and Wikipedia would probably be disabled in many homes and schools if a proper warning were given.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wikipedia merely has a general disclaimer that avoids any reference to its sexual images, pornography, and adult content.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Content_disclaimer]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry on the &amp;quot;Palestinian People&amp;quot; omits any mention of terrorism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people (the entry also contained an unjustified picture of children for sympathy purposes, but that was removed after criticism here)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Click on the PLO and you'll find no discussion of its connection to the massacre of innocent athletes at the 1972 Olympics in Munich.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine_Liberation_Organization&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia features an entry on &amp;quot;anti-racist mathematics&amp;quot; that &amp;quot;emphasizes the sociocultural context of mathematics education and suggests that the study of mathematics (as it is traditionally known in western societies) does exhibit racial or cultural bias.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-racist_mathematics&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
#  In the mid-20th century, a Soviet encyclopedia contained the assertion that Jesus was a myth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bede.org.uk/books,jmyth.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia's entry on [[Jesus]] has the following: &amp;quot;A small number of scholars and authors question the historical existence of Jesus, with some arguing for a completely mythological Jesus.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But no credible historian makes such a claim.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry for the [[Renaissance]] denies any credit to Christianity, its primary inspiration.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wikipedia has since updated its entry with a backhanded reference to Christianity, but even then not for inspiring the Renaissance but rather for providing subject matter for the works.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Renaissance&amp;amp;oldid=138439803]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  About 60% of Americans accept the account of the Great Flood in the [[Bible]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040216-113955-2061r.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But enter &amp;quot;Great Flood&amp;quot; into Wikipedia and it automatically converts that to an entry entitled &amp;quot;Deluge (mythology).&amp;quot; That entry then uses &amp;quot;myth&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;mythology&amp;quot; nearly 70 times in its description.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Flood&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Its entry on &amp;quot;Noah's Ark&amp;quot; is just as biased.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noah's_Ark&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia editors are about 4 times as [[atheist]]ic or non-religious as the American public. In a Newsweek poll in 2006, 92% of Americans said they believed in God and only 8% said they did not believe in God or didn't know. But among Wikipedia editors responding to a request for identification of beliefs, 35% described themselves in the categories of &amp;quot;No religion, [[atheist]], agnostic, humanist, secular, other.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_Wikimedians_by_religion&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry on [[abortion]] reads like a brochure for the abortion industry. Wikipedia denies and omits the results of 16 out of 17 statistically significant studies showing increased risk of breast cancer from abortion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.jpands.org/vol8no2/malec.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia's entry also omits the evidence of abortion causing increased premature birth of subsequent children.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.jpands.org/vol8no2/rooney.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Instead of providing these facts, Wikipedia blames women by declaring that &amp;quot;breast cancer elicits disproportionate fear in women&amp;quot;!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion-breast_cancer_hypothesis&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  The Wikipedia entry for the [[Voting Rights Act]] contained (as of March 9-10) a call to participate in a political march to establish congressional representation for D.C.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Voting_Rights_Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a longtime [[liberal]] cause prohibited by the [[U.S. Constitution]]. A conservative entry like that would be deleted by Wikipedia editors within minutes, but that entry remained until after it was criticized here.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Initially, in December 2006, a Wikipedia administrator named &amp;quot;Nearly Headless Nick&amp;quot; (the signature nickname for Wikipedia user &amp;quot;Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sir_Nicholas_de_Mimsy-Porpington&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) deleted an entry about Conservapedia, following a discussion on the &amp;quot;Articles for deletion&amp;quot; section in which a horde of Wikipedia editors demanded and obtained deletion, claiming that the site failed a &amp;quot;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_(web) notability guideline for websites]&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Later, in response to publicity, Wikipedia posted a new entry about Conservapedia. Wikipedia's entry is filled with obvious bias, numerous errors, out-of-date citations, and self-serving false statements.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For example, the Wikipedia entry made the absurd claim that Conservapedia says the &amp;quot;General Theory of Relativity&amp;quot; has &amp;quot;nothing to do with physics.&amp;quot; Wikipedia's claim was completely false and unsupported by its citations. After this example was posted here, Wikipedia removed its error but has left other false and outdated claims in its entry, reflecting Wikipedia's pervasive bias.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry for conservative physicist [[Edward Teller]] promotes the [[liberal]] attempt to blame him for the government taking away the security clearance of [[J. Robert Oppenheimer]]. Teller testified, &amp;quot;If it is a question of wisdom and judgment, as demonstrated by actions since 1945, then I would say one would be wiser not to grant clearance.&amp;quot; Wikipedia first called this statement &amp;quot;damning&amp;quot;, and after criticism here replaced its term with &amp;quot;problematic&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Teller&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In light of how multiple spies leaked secrets under Oppenheimer's supervision in the [[Manhattan Project]] and spying even worsened afterwards, Wikipedia's spin on Teller's statement is unjustified bias.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry for the [[Association of American Physicians and Surgeons]], a conservative group, features a rant against the group by a British journalist who was a former press officer for the leftist Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons&amp;amp;oldid=107830399 The version] criticized above; [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons the note] left by dpbsmith on the article's discussion page; the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_American_Physicians_and_Surgeons current version].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The only cited credential for the journalist is that he works for a television &amp;quot;programme-production company,&amp;quot; and there is no citation for any of the factual claims in his intemperate and misleading description of the group, which were prompted by an independent criticism in England of the journalist's own work. After receiving a complaint about this, Wikipedia trimmed this rant but still kept most of it, reflecting Wikipedia's bias. Preserving this unpublished diatribe is against Wikipedia policy (e.g., NPOV), but it Wikipedia administrators insist on keeping it. Wikipedia's entry also features another [[liberal]] journalist's swipe at AAPS from ... 40 years ago!&lt;br /&gt;
#  There is a strong anti-American and anti-capitalist bias on Wikipedia. In its description of the post-war [[Bell Trade Act]] of 1946, in which the United States gave the Philippines $800 million in exchange for some free trade provisions, Wikipedia omits any mention of the $800 million dollars and instead lambasts the &amp;quot;wrath of Father Capitalism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This phrase was removed from Wikipedia only after this criticism was posted here. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_Trade_Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The agreement was approved by popular vote on the Philippines, but the Wikipedia article omits that fact also.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia distorts the youthful acceptance of [[deism]] by [[Benjamin Franklin]] by never acknowledging that he later abandoned it. Wikipedia fails to admit the significance of how Franklin, near the end of his life, proposed the saying of prayers at the [[Constitutional Convention]] for divine intervention and assistance in the proceedings,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Deist_thinkers&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; an act contrary to the teachings of deism. Wikipedia also omits any acknowledgment of Franklin's praise of ''[[Pilgrim's Progress]]'' in his autobiography.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry on the intelligent design court decision in ''Dover''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmiller_v._Dover_Area_School_District&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; distorts and omits the key facts that (i) the judge awarded over $2 million in attorneys fees to the [[ACLU]]'s side (not $1 million), (ii) the judge copied over 90% of his opinion from the [[ACLU]]'s briefs,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Id.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and (iii) his opinion relied heavily on another decision that was subsequently reversed on appeal.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Id.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Gossip is pervasive on Wikipedia. Many entries read like the [[National Enquirer]]. For example, Wikipedia's entry, &amp;quot;Nina Totenberg&amp;quot;, states, &amp;quot;She remarried in 2000 to Dr. H. David Reines, a trauma surgeon and vice chairman of surgery at Inova Fairfax Hospital. On their honeymoon, he treated her for severe injuries after she was hit by a boat propeller while swimming.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nina_Totenberg&amp;amp;oldid=171577028 Nina Totenberg - Wikipedia]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That sounds just like the National Enquirer, and reflects a bias towards gossip. Conservapedia avoids gossip and vulgarity, just as a true encyclopedia does.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Edits to include facts against [[Evolution|the theory of evolution]] are almost immediately censored. On Conservapedia, contributions that meet simple [[The Conservapedia Commandments|rules]] are respected to the maximum extent possible.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia has as its official policy the following: &amp;quot;If we are going to characterize disputes neutrally, we should present competing views with a consistently fair and sensitive tone.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Yet what does Wikipedia do in relation to its article on [[Young Earth Creationism]]? It currently offers an article on the topic under the category &amp;quot;Pseudoscience&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism Young Earth creationism - Wikipedia]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; What reputable encyclopedia uses such a non-encyclopedic tone for an article in regards to creationism? The log on the article shows that Wikipedia has a history of using the pejorative term &amp;quot;pseudoscience&amp;quot; to disparage young earth creationism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Young_Earth_creationism&amp;amp;action=history&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia removed and permanently blocked a page identifying its many biases. Wikipedia omits any meaningful reference to political bias in its 7000-word entry [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Wikipedia Criticism of Wikipedia].&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia claims about 1.8 million articles, but what it does not say is that a large number of those articles have zero educational value. For example, Wikipedia has 1075 separate articles about &amp;quot;Moby&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;song&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Simply search &amp;quot;Moby&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;song&amp;quot; together on Wikipedia.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Many hundreds of thousands of Wikipedia articles -- perhaps over half its website -- are about music, Hollywood, and other topics beneath a regular encyclopedia. This reflects a bias towards popular gossip rather than helpful or enlightening information.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Often key facts are missing from Wikipedia entries in favor of meaningless detail. Wikipedia's entry about [[Indentured Servitude]] is massive, but it omitted any reference to [[Bacon's Rebellion]], which was the turning point for the use of indentured servants in the New World! Finally, weeks after this glaring omission was noted here, Wikipedia added one line to its entry: &amp;quot;Indentured servants in Virginia supported Bacon's Rebellion in 1676.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indentured_servant&amp;amp;diff=115675763&amp;amp;oldid=113879992&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Unlike most encyclopedias and news outlets, Wikipedia does not exert any centralized authority to take steps to reduce bias or provide balance; it has a &amp;quot;neutral point of view&amp;quot; policy but the policy is followed only to the extent that individual editors acting in social groups choose to follow it. For example, CNN would ensure that Crossfire had a representative of the political right and one from the political left. In contrast, Wikipedia policy allows bias to exist and worsen. For example, even though most Americans reject the theory of evolution,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia editors commenting on the topic are nearly 100% pro-evolution.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Evolution Talk:Evolution - Wikipedia]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Self-selection has a tendency to exacerbate bias, as in mobs, where there are no restraints. [[Gresham's Law]] reflects the problem in economics of bad money driving out good in the absence of corrective action. As a result, Wikipedia is arguably more biased than CNN and other information sources.&lt;br /&gt;
#: The above paragraph was posted on the Wikipedia entry for &amp;quot;Wikipedia&amp;quot;, under bias, but its editors then illustrated their bias by replacing the above with this: &amp;quot;Ojective [sic], or neutrally biased, articles present different opinions as equally legitimate regardless of validity, while unbiased articles focus on accuracy and validity. For example, the evolution article is not objective because it does not present creationism, a counter argument to evolution, as a valid scientific theory. However, this does not make the article biased because evolution is an accepted scientific theory. CNN's Crossfire, on the other hand, was considered objective ... because it had representatives from the political right from the political left.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia has many entries on mathematical concepts, but lacked any entry on the basic concept of an [[elementary proof]] until this omission was pointed out here.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elementary_proof&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Elementary proofs require a rigor lacking in many mathematical claims promoted on Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
#  The Wikipedia entry for the [[Piltdown Man]] omits many key facts, such as how it was taught in schools for an entire generation and how the dating methodology used by evolutionists is fraudulent.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia allows the use of B.C.E. instead of B.C. and C.E. instead of A.D. The dates are based on the birth of [[Jesus]], so why pretend otherwise? Conservapedia gives the credit due to Christianity and exposes the [[CE]] deception.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's article on [[Feudalism]] is limited to feudalism in Europe and did not mention the feudal systems that developed independently in Japan and India until this defect was described here.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's article on the longest-serving and most powerful Maryland official in its history, [[William Donald Schaefer]], contains about 1900 words, but over two-thirds of those words (1400/1900) are devoted to silly gossip, outright vulgarity and National Enquirer-type material.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Donald_Schaefer&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; 406 words, which is over 20% of the entire entry, is devoted to a silly dispute Schaefer had one day with the local newspaper!&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's article about the late Senator John Tower includes a mean-spirited story whose only point seems to be to indicate the degree of his ex-wife's bitterness toward him. The article previously spelled his wife's name incorrectly. The article was in that state since it was first inserted in May 2006&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Tower&amp;amp;oldid=101859325 John Tower], revision as of Jan 25&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and until it was corrected on January 26, 2007 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=John_Tower&amp;amp;offset=20070208110937&amp;amp;limit=20&amp;amp;action=history&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. No real encyclopedia would print such silly gossip.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry for the [[National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act]] (NCVIA) reads like an advertisement for vaccine manufacturers, including unsupported and implausible claims about vaccination.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Childhood_Vaccine_Injury_Act&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Unsupported claims featured there include &amp;quot;Vaccine makers indicated they would cease production if their proposal for the NCVIA was not enacted&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;concern that the NCVIA may not provide an adequate legal shield.&amp;quot; Wikipedia's entry omits references to leading pro-parent websites concerning vaccination,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.909shot.com/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and instead Wikipedia's entry lists pro-government and pro-vaccine-manufacturer websites. Wikipedia's entry even includes this entire paragraph, which is unsupported and is little more than an advertisement for drug companies:&lt;br /&gt;
#: Public health safety, according to backers of the legislation, depends upon the financial viability of pharmaceutical companies, whose ability to produce sufficient supplies in a timely manner could be imperiled by civil litigation on behalf of vaccine injury victims that was mounting rapidly at the time of its passage. Vaccination against infectious illnesses provides protection against contagious diseases and afflictions which may cause permanent disability or even death. Vaccines have reduced morbidity caused by infectious disease; e.g., in the case of smallpox, mass vaccination programs have eradicated a once life-threatening illness.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia displays an obsession with English social distinctions, such as obscure royalty, and with unexplained academic distinctions earned in the English college system, such as references to &amp;quot;double first degree.&amp;quot; The entry on [[Henry Liddell]] illustrates this extreme form of Anglophilia that characterizes many entries in Wikipedia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Liddell&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; That entry fails to tell us when Liddell was dean of Christ Church, Oxford and has a grammatical error in its first sentence, yet describes in painstaking detail four obscure royal titles for Liddell's relatives and his &amp;quot;double first degree&amp;quot; in college. The casual reader of that entry wouldn't even notice a buried reference (well after a description of all the royal lineage) to Liddell's primary claim to fame: his daughter Alice inspired [[Alice's Adventures in Wonderland]]. The arcane English descriptions in many Wikipedia entries may be due to its copying, verbatim, passages from the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica. This copying was not disclosed in the debate in late 2005 about whether Wikipedia was as reliable a resource as the Encyclopedia Britannica.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.com.com/Study+Wikipedia+as+accurate+as+Britannica/2100-1038_3-5997332.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Robert McHenry, former Editor-in-Chief for the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'', wrote about Wikipedia's bias and included this observation:&lt;br /&gt;
#: &amp;quot;One simple fact that must be accepted as the basis for any intellectual work is that truth – whatever definition of that word you may subscribe to – is not democratically determined.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opendemocracy.net/media-edemocracy/wikipedia_bias_3621.jsp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Bob Schmidt observed on the ''Illinois Review'':&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2007/01/conservapedia_w.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#: I just spent some time in Wikipedia checking if my recollections of its bias are correct. The bias is much worse than I had remembered.&lt;br /&gt;
#: I looked only at topics on business and information technology. Clearly there are enthusiasts for certain vendors who are spending a large portion of their time hyping technology in a way that makes their vendor look good in comparison to other vendors.&lt;br /&gt;
#: They will set up a set of criteria for the definition of a product that their product will meet. They conveniently omit from the criteria anything that would detract from their favorite.&lt;br /&gt;
#: In short, Wikipedia is not objective. It is accurate only within its selective use of facts that are convenient to promote a predetermined outcome.&lt;br /&gt;
#: Even for just one area of knowledge, it would take a major time consuming effort for a person or group to have an impact on reducing the bias and improving the accuracy of the entries.&lt;br /&gt;
#  Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia, admitted the following understated bias in an interview in 2006:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/mediashift/2006/04/email_debatewales_discusses_po.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#: &amp;quot;I would say that the Wikipedia community is slightly more [[liberal]] than the U.S. population on average, because we are global and the international community of English speakers is slightly more [[liberal]] than the U.S. population. There are no data or surveys to back that.&amp;quot; [Conservapedia editor: why not? Wales admitted that only about 615 editors are responsible for over 50% of the edits on Wikipedia.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/12/bias_sabotage_haunt_wikipedias_free_world/?page=2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Why doesn't Wikipedia survey these editors? Is this deliberate indifference to bias?]&lt;br /&gt;
#  Many people know how a prominent Tennessee journalist [[John Lawrence Seigenthaler]] was defamed for four months on Wikipedia before it was corrected. He described and criticized this in ''USA Today'', concluding with the following:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
#: When I was a child, my mother lectured me on the evils of &amp;quot;gossip.&amp;quot; She held a feather pillow and said, &amp;quot;If I tear this open, the feathers will fly to the four winds, and I could never get them back in the pillow. That's how it is when you spread mean things about people.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
# What most people don't know is how many Wikipedia editors savaged [[Seigenthaler]] ''afterwards'' on a Wikipedia talk page for publicly criticizing the falsehoods about him:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/02/12/bias_sabotage_haunt_wikipedias_free_world/?page=3&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#: &amp;quot;Mr. [[Seigenthaler]]'s attitude and actions are reprehensible and ill-formed,&amp;quot; said one typical comment. &amp;quot;[He] has the responsibility to learn about his own name and how it is being applied and used, as any celebrity does on the Internet and the world-at-large. Besides, if there is an error whether large or small, he can correct it on Wikipedia. Everyone fails to understand that logic.&amp;quot; Another wrote: &amp;quot;Rather than fixing the article himself, he made a legal threat. He's causing Wikipedia a lot of trouble, on purpose.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
#  The co-founder of Wikipedia, Larry Sanger, described &amp;quot;serious and endemic problems&amp;quot; in Wikipedia in a document entitled &amp;quot;Toward a Compendium of Knowledge&amp;quot; (Sept. 2006). Sanger observed that Wikipedia editors do not enforce their own rules consistently or effectively and that it has become an &amp;quot;arguably dysfunctional community&amp;quot; unattractive to traditional experts. Sanger declared the Wikipedia community's response to the Seigenthaler incident to be &amp;quot;completely unacceptable.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/citizendium.ars&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's errors spill undetected into newspapers. A Wikipedia entry falsely stated that Rutgers was once invited to join the Ivy League. Although that false statement was eventually removed from Wikipedia, it was not removed before the ''Daily News'' relied on it in this story:&lt;br /&gt;
#: &amp;quot;You don't have to define your college with your football team, but Rutgers long ago decided to give it a try. Back in 1954, when it was considered a 'public Ivy,' Rutgers might have joined the fledgling Ivy League and altered its destiny. But the school declined the offer - arguably the dumbest mistake in its history. Ever since then, Rutgers has scrambled to prove itself worthy of playing football with the big boys.&amp;quot; — Bondy, Filip. &amp;quot;They Can Finally Say They Belong Here&amp;quot;, New York Daily News, 2006-11-10, p. 92. Retrieved on 2006-12-13. &lt;br /&gt;
#  Wikipedia's entry for [[Johnny Appleseed]], a Christian folk hero, omits a discussion of his strong faith and instead features baseless speculation about his health, a year of death different from that of his obituary, and a silly story designed to make a Christian preacher look foolish.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Appleseed&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#  In a brief-lived example of pro-homosexuality bias, the category allowing users to self identify as Heterosexual was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/June_2007# Category:Heterosexual_Wikipedians deleted] because it served no useful purpose, yet the exact same category for Homosexuals was [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion/Archive/July_2007# Category:Gay_Wikipedians kept]. The latter was deleted after a month along with all other categories focused on the sexuality of Wikipedians. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:LGBT_Wikipedians Category:LGBT_Wikipedians] has revived itself after a delete but is still fighting to not be deleted.&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia has refused to have an article on [[Sudden Jihad Syndrome]] despite a term discussed by multiple commentator including [[neoconservative]] academic [[Daniel Pipes]] and a column in the [[Washington Times]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nysun.com/article/29080&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&amp;amp;page=Sudden+Jihad+Syndrome&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thecourier.com/opinion/editoral/ar_ED_021607.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sudden_Jihad_Syndrome&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sudden_jihad_syndrome&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NATION/203823370/1001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and even refused to let an editor work on a draft for a rewrite of the article.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion/User:CltFn/Sudden_Jihad_Syndrome&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#Wikipedia's article on Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign makes no mention of her endorsement by the leadership of the terrorist group Hamas,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=58699&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but lists endorsements of Republican presidential candidates by the Ku Klux Klan.&lt;br /&gt;
#Wikipedia's entry for &amp;quot;Right to bear arms&amp;quot; mentions the discrepancies many have with the interpretation of the phrase. They begin by labeling the first section &amp;quot;Military service ''definition''&amp;quot; and go on to explain how the words &amp;quot;bear arms&amp;quot; had a different meaning a couple hundred years ago in European countries. After the 7 paragraph section that has little relation with the Second Amendment of the ''United States'', Wikipedia offers 2 paragraphs that talks about the &amp;quot;Insurrectionary ''Theory''&amp;quot;. First thing, they call people that adhere to this concept &amp;quot;extremists&amp;quot; and attempt to prove why this viewpoint is false. The criticism was strangely missing from the military service section. So, in short, Wikipedia believes that the faultless, [[liberal]] &amp;quot;definition&amp;quot; is true and the sketchy, extremist, conservative &amp;quot;theory&amp;quot; is false.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_bear_arms#Military_service_definition&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_bear_arms#Insurrectionary_theory&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#Wikipedia is sexist? Definitions of antonym words don't match up:  &lt;br /&gt;
## '''Matriarchy''' is a term, which is applied to gynocentric form of society, in which the leading role is with the female and especially with the mothers of a community.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matriarchy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
## '''Patriarchy''' describes a social structure where the actions and ideas of men and boys are dominant over those of women and girls.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriarchy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#Wikipedia's article on [[Jeremiah Wright]] repeatedly has material referenced from the New York Post and the conservative news website, Newsmax, removed citing them as unreliable sources.&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's single article on American conservatism has only a vague definition in its one-sentence lead section.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Wikipedia has two extensive articles on liberalism in the United States; they use a combined 800 words in their lead sections, which are comprised of quotes from liberal politicians and claims that the stances of today's liberals &amp;quot;may be viewed as the modern version of the classical liberalism upon which America was founded&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism_in_the_United_States&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
# For a period of time (January 4, 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tobacco_and_health&amp;amp;oldid=182111544&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; - April 5, 2008&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tobacco_and_health&amp;amp;diff=203433685&amp;amp;oldid=202851436&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), Wikipedia's page on Tobacco and health had a disclaimer in the pipe smoking section that stated three references (The American Cancer Society, Blue Cross Blue Shield, and the National Cancer Institute) might not be reliable resources and should be reviewed.&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's main article on Communism does not mention any act of genocide in Communist countries, and any attempts to edit the page to include this information are deleted. The Nazism page, however, includes multiple mentions of the Holocaust. The only mention of communist genocide is buried deep within the article structure for Communism.&lt;br /&gt;
# The Meta.Wikimedia.org site, that governs all modifications to databases maintained by the Wikimedia Foundation, recently denied an application to place Conservapedia on its Interwiki Map&amp;amp;mdash;this although Wikimedia maintains an interwiki link for [http://wiki.cotch.net/index.php/Main_Page EvoWiki]. In their discussions, the administration accepted some frankly puerile and self-serving contentions that Conservapedia was a POV-pushing site, and ignored the testimony of multiple witnesses that EvoWiki did the same thing.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Interwiki_map&amp;amp;oldid=1032322&amp;gt; (permanent link)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
# Wikipedia's most controversial pages are guarded by liberal elite. Thereby, accuracy is replaced with ideology. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/08/opinion/main4241293.shtml Wikipropaganda On Global Warming] National Review, July 8, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The first one-hundred and sixty-eight words on Wikipedia's [[Global Warming]] page contains multiple conjectures, major errors and bias. ''&amp;quot;increase in the average measured [[temperature]] ... since the &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;mid-twentieth century&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;quot;'' that same paragraph &amp;quot;''solar variation combined with volcanoes ... and a small cooling effect from &amp;lt;u&amp;gt;1950&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt; onward.&amp;quot;'' Which is it, warmer or cooler from 1950? &amp;quot;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;''very likely due''&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;quot; &amp;quot;&amp;lt;u&amp;gt;''probably had''&amp;lt;/u&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;''the overwhelming majority of scientists working on climate change agree with the [[IPCC]]'s main conclusions''&amp;quot;- unsubstantiated bias.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm pretty sure the picture on this page is of the Olympian gods, not the titans. Bacchus is clearly visible, and the goddess at the top with the peacock feathers must be Juno. If there are no objections, I'll go ahead and remove it soon.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 14:10, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The relation among Greek gods is not simple. We need to study the source carefully first. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 15:35, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: If you look closely, it's easy to identify several of the gods by the items they're pictured with, or their physical characteristics. The goddess with the owl and helmet is Athena. The god with goat's legs is Pan. The god with the lyre is Apollo. The god with the trident is Poseidon. None of those are Titans. Can I remove the image? It could still be used on a different page.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 16:27, 11 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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The '''Fox News Channel''' is a [[United States]] [[cable]] and [[satellite]] [[news]] channel. It is part of the Fox Television Stations Group, a subsidiary of Australian-born media mogul [[Rupert Murdoch]]'s [[News Corporation]]. [[Roger Ailes]] was named Chairman of the Fox Television Stations Group on August 15, 2005.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Founding==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fox News was started in 1996 by Murdoch and Roger Ailes. The two of them perceived a need for a news organization that offered more balanced reporting, one where the facts from all sides would be presented. Main-stream media &amp;quot;Political Correctness&amp;quot; was banished, with the news [[anchor]]s calling [[terrorist]]s what they were, (terrorists), instead of referring to them as &amp;quot;militants.&amp;quot;  As of February, 2007, polls show that over 20% of Americans say their main source of news is the Fox News Channel.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fox News uses the slogan &amp;quot;Fair &amp;amp; Balanced,&amp;quot; carries bipartisan shows like [[Hannity and Colmes]], and daily guest pundits from all sides of the [[political spectrum]]. Fox News also is non-hostile to conservative and [[Christian]] values, viewpoints, spokesmen, and ideas. Fox News has gained the reputation for reporting the news in an unbiased manner and then allowing the viewer to decide; &amp;quot;We Report, You Decide&amp;quot; is another of their on-air slogans.&lt;br /&gt;
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Fox News has dominated the [[ratings]] of other cable news outlets.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-anderson4oct04,0,2195035.story?coll=la-opinion-center&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Launched by media [[tycoon]] Rupert Murdoch and former political consultant Roger Ailes as a refuge for viewers fed up with real or perceived liberal bias everywhere in the so-called &amp;quot;[[mainstream media]]&amp;quot;, Fox is the undisputed ratings champion of cable news.  It's been trouncing [[CNN]], [[MSNBC]] and [[CNBC]] for years, and it quite often draws a much larger audience share than all competitors, combined.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fair and Balanced==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Fair_balanced.jpg‎ |thumb|left|Fair And Balanced Logo]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Leftist]] critics have been known to complain about the &amp;quot;Fair &amp;amp; Balanced&amp;quot; slogan.  Former President [[Bill Clinton]] exploded at ''Fox News Sunday'' anchor [[Chris Wallace]] in September of 2006, accusing him of &amp;quot;a nice little conservative hit job&amp;quot; after being lightly pressed by Wallace about his record on fighting [[Al Qaeda]].   Democratic politicos and advocates have relentlessly attacked the cable network, sometimes accusing it of being a Republican [[propaganda mill]].  Ex Vice-President and notorious environmentalist [[Al Gore]] has likened Fox to a right-wing &amp;quot;[[fifth column]].&amp;quot;  Groups, such as [[MoveOn.org]], funded a classic [[schlockumentary]] entitled ''[[Outfoxed]]'', which purports to expose the channel's nefarious Republican agenda. In a grandstanding gesture of political theatre the group unsuccessfully petitioned the [[Federal Trade Commission]] to stop Fox's from using its slogan as &amp;quot;deceptive advertising&amp;quot;. &lt;br /&gt;
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A recent comprehensive study by [[UCLA]] political scientist Tim Groseclose and University of Missouri-Columbia economics professor Jeffrey Milyo found [[Brit Hume]]'s ''Special Report'' — Fox's most straightforward news show — more centrist than any of the three major networks' evening newscasts, all of which are left leaning. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://rcp.missouri.edu/articles/milyo_media.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The program is a model of smart news television. &lt;br /&gt;
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And although it's true that the Fox's opinion shows (as opposed to its news shows) are, as they're supposed to be, frequently bombastic and opinionated, it's equally true that Fox's biggest super-star, [[Bill O'Reilly]] is not a mainstream Republican, but a registered [[Independent]] who sides with conservatives. He regularly charges the oil companies with [[price-gouging]] and attacks big business for quashing the little guy.{{fact}} Who can say what host [[Greta Van Susteren]]'s politics are? She mostly covers the [[crime]]-of-the-day stories. [[Geraldo Rivera]] has always been liberal on most issues, with the exception of being a strong supporter of the military and stiff penalties for [[sex offender]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Liberal commentators go in and out of the Fox studios all over America, every day — some of them, like host [[Alan Colmes]] and news analyst [[Marvin Kalb]], and [[Eleanor Clift]] affiliated with the channel. There's no doubt, of course, that Fox News is closer to mainstream America than [[CBS]], [[ABC]], [[NBC]] or [[CNN]]. But, after all, that was its founding mission.&lt;br /&gt;
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Conservatives have criticism for Fox. Their 'Fair and Balanced' motto allows [[liberal]] [[propaganda]] and half-truths to gain an audience. Fox's entertainment division has been singled out by the [[Parents Television Council]] for obsessive violence and sexual [[obscenities]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-elitist ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Conservatives argue that Fox's real ethos is not Republican but anti-[[elitist]] — a major reason it connects with so many Americans and annoys so many [[coastal elite]]s. &amp;quot;There's a whole country that elitists will never acknowledge,&amp;quot; Ailes once observed. &amp;quot;What people resent deeply out there are those in the 'blue states' thinking they're smarter.&amp;quot;  This anti-elitism shows itself in Fox's pro-U.S. stance in covering the [[Afghanistan]] and [[Iraq war]]s and its broadcasters' use of terms such as &amp;quot;terrorist&amp;quot; instead of the politcally correct &amp;quot;militant&amp;quot; to refer to … well, terrorists. Since the [[Vietnam War]] era, mainstream [[journalist]]s have tended to see such blunt language and side-taking as unsophisticated, a betrayal of journalistic [[objectivity]], or perhaps their own ingrained biases against government in general.&lt;br /&gt;
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Another aspect of Fox's anti-elitism: [[evangelical]] and [[fundamentalist Christian]]s, far from being seen as lunatics or extremists — as too often is the case in the mainstream media — are treated with great respect. &amp;quot;We regularly have on the [[Rev. Franklin Graham]], [[Dr. James Dobson]] and other religious leaders, just as we put on [[Pat Ireland]] and Eleanor Clift,&amp;quot; Ailes said, continuing,  ''&amp;quot;Most Americans believe in God and have that as their foundation in life. So why shouldn't we have as guests people that they like, respect and want to hear from?&amp;quot; '' Ailes said he didn't get &amp;quot;too worked up&amp;quot; by a [[Pew Foundation]] study that showed that Fox has more Republican viewers than CNN, CNBC or MSNBC and that his reporters and anchors insert their opinions into stories far more than competitors do. Numbers might have something to do with it: Fox is beating the combined audience of the other three. But Ailes dismissed Pew as a &amp;quot;liberal [[lobbyist|lobbying]] organization.&amp;quot; He said, &amp;quot;Most polls today are not taken to provide information to the public but to get press for the organization taking the polls. I took a poll of Pew, and 98% of my organization found that they were biased&amp;quot;, Ailes said with a wink. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2005-04-06-media-mix_x.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In response, Project director Tom Rosenstiel said the study &amp;quot;was not a poll. It was a content analysis designed by a four-university research team and executed at the [[University of Alabama]].&amp;quot; ''One plus for Fox, he said, was that researchers found Fox News stories were more forthcoming about sourcing than their cable rivals.'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2005-04-06-media-mix_x.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fox News Channel and Homosexuality ==&lt;br /&gt;
In regards to the issue of [[homosexuality]], the Fox News Channel and Bill O'Reilly [[Homosexuality and the Media|have acted in a way which is not reflective of conservative views (for example, the Fox News Channel donated money to the Lesbian and Gay Journalist Association)]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Fox vs fringe views ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What really frustrates liberals about Fox, though, is simply that, along with [[talk radio]] and the conservative [[blogosphere]], it has helped shatter the left's near-monopoly on news and information. Fox's opinion-driven programming gives conservatives and liberals a chance to get a fair hearing for their ideas. But Democratic politicians and activists who go on Fox also must defend their views, often against tough questioning, something that happens less often on the networks, where most journalists are left-of-center, survey after survey has shown&amp;quot;, said columnist [[Brian Anderson]]. &amp;quot;Even more significant, Fox came on the scene a decade ago as a professional news organization that could define and report news as something different from what the elite consensus says it is. To take one of many examples, the corruption of the [[United Nations]]' [[oil-for-food]] initiative in [[Iraq]], initially downplayed by the mainstream media because of their sympathy for internationalism, was uncovered — deemed newsworthy — on Fox.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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All this wouldn't matter if Fox News wasn't so influential. But it is. According to the Pew Research Center, more than 20% of Americans now claim to get news from it, and lots of them (37%) are Democrats or independents. The network's success has also sparked a &amp;quot;Fox effect,&amp;quot; leading some competitors to become more open to right-of-center opinions: MSNBC's &amp;quot;Scarborough Country,&amp;quot; hosted by former Republican congressman [[Joe Scarborough]], is a prime example. Until a few years ago, Democrats never had to deal with all these mediatized conservatives. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-anderson4oct04,0,2195035.story?coll=la-opinion-center&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Ailes said Fox News has no agenda. His charge to his reporters and anchors is simple: &amp;quot;If you make a mistake, get on the air as fast as you can and admit it. ... Do your homework. Make sure you reach out to a point of view you don't agree with to be sure you have some balance in your piece, because journalists, despite the public perception, are not empty-headed fools. They actually come to the job with some ideas and biases.&amp;quot; When asked whether the media have a &amp;quot;conscious bias,&amp;quot; Ailes said: &amp;quot;I don't know whether it's conscious or not. I think people who are biased to the left and right are by and large honest people who bring their life experience to whatever their beliefs are. I don't think there's some conspiracy of bias to the left, ''but I do think that [[New York]] and [[Los Angeles]] have different views than many people that I know from other parts of the country.&amp;quot;'' &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/life/columnist/mediamix/2005-04-06-media-mix_x.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Roger Ailes ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Rogerailes_1.jpg‎ |thumb|right|300px|Roger Ailes, Fox News CEO]]&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,205966,00.html This is a transcript] of Ailes speaking to the Television Critics Association, which will be enlightening to readers digging into the Fox take on reporting and its reaction to controversy about its mission.  &lt;br /&gt;
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On November 20, 2008, [[Roger Ailes]], who now holds the titles of Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, FOX News and Chairman of FOX Television Stations, signed a new five year contract with News Corporation, it was announced by Rupert Murdoch, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/roger_ailes_signs_new_5year_deal_with_news_corp_101312.asp&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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During Ailes' time with [[News Corporation|News Corp]], [[FNC]] passed [[CNN]] in ratings in all day parts in 2002 to become the number one news network in the country, nearing full distribution with more than 90 million subscribers. In 2007, he launched the [[Fox Business News]] which currently reaches more than 40 million homes and served as the biggest launch in cable television history. Throughout Mr. Ailes' tenure, FOX Television Stations has increased its market share each of the last three years with all time record shares in the last two years. In addition, Fox Television Stations has expanded its local news presence by nearly 100 hours a week in a challenging economic climate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tony Snow ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In April, 2006 the [[White House]] selected [[Tony Snow]], Fox News Anchorman, to be the new White House Press Secretary. &amp;quot;Snow, who in his roles as a [[pundit]] on Fox News and elsewhere has rapped Bush on several occasions, joined the White House only after extracting a promise that he would become an adviser to the president on day-to-day strategy...the former columnist will be the first outsider to become part of Bush's revamped inner circle.&amp;quot;, said the [[Washington Post]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/26/AR2006042600558.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Snow, 50, worked most recently as host for ''Fox News Sunday, with Tony Snow'' and as host of his own radio talk show. He was a director of speech-writing for President [[George H.W. Bush]] and has worked as a [[USA Today]] columnist, Editorial Page Editor of the [[Washington Times]], deputy editorial page editor of the [[Detroit News]] and frequent substitute for radio host [[Rush Limbaugh]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/04/20060426.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==External Links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.foxnews.com/ Fox News]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Cable TV Networks]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Confederation_of_British_Industry&amp;diff=584243</id>
		<title>Confederation of British Industry</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: a simple article to fix a broken redirect.  Hopefully someone who knows anything about the topic will come along and improve this&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Confederation of British Industry''', more commonly know as the '''CBI''', is a [[British]] [[lobbyist|lobbying]]  organization.  It works with [[UK]] and international legislatures for the benefit of UK businesses.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cbi.org.uk/ndbs/staticpages.nsf/staticpages/Aboutcbi/index.html?OpenDocument &amp;quot;CBI - about the CBI&amp;quot;.] CBI.org.uk&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.cbi.org.uk/ndbs/staticpages.nsf/StaticPages/home.html/?OpenDocument CBI homepage]&lt;br /&gt;
==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[category:politics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Satan worship</title>
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Satanism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Satanist</title>
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&lt;div&gt;#REDIRECT [[Satanism]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Disputed Biblical Translations</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: /* The Adulteress Story, beginning of John 8 */   is this what was meant?&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The translations of several passages in the [[Bible]] are disputed. This has led to some [[doctrine|doctrinal]] disagreement throughout [[Christian]] history, with scholars and others citing different [[translation]]s of the same passage to support slightly different views. A few critics of [[Christianity]] cite rare uncertainties in translation to challenge the entire religion; this viewpoint ignores the overwhelming agreement in translation and the role of [[faith]], [[prayer]] and divine inspiration in religious discourse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Islam]] dictates that the [[Koran]] be read only in its original [[Arabic]], thereby avoiding any issues of translation. Translations of the Koran do exist, but they are not used for study, worship or devotional purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Isaiah 7:14 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage is a prophesy of the birth of [[Jesus]], and the dispute concerns whether to translate the term for the woman as &amp;quot;virgin&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;young woman.&amp;quot;  The Hebrew term is ambiguous; the Greek term means &amp;quot;virgin&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... The virgin will conceive, have a son, and name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Romans 3:28 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage sparked the [[Reformation]].  [[Martin Luther]] added an extra German word for &amp;quot;alone&amp;quot; (alleine or alleyn) after the phrase: &amp;quot;justified by faith&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;So halten wir nun dafür, daß der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, alleyn durch den Glauben.&amp;quot;  This reflected Luther's view that man is justified (saved) by faith alone, and that salvation comes only from faith. The Roman Catholic Church (and Eastern Orthodox Church) taught that man is justified (saved) by faith and good works. &lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: For we consider that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  For we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  For we hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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== John 19:30 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage describes the last words of [[Jesus]], and what happened next.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: ... he said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: ... Jesus said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  ... He said, &amp;quot;It is finished!&amp;quot;  Then bowing His head, He yielded up His spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  ... he said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Message: .... Jesus said, &amp;quot;It's  done ... complete.&amp;quot;  Bowing his head, he offered up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Holy Spirit&amp;quot; (Paraclete) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus]] used the Greek term &amp;quot;paraclete&amp;quot; to refer to what is now commonly called the &amp;quot;Holy Spirit&amp;quot; in English (formerly the &amp;quot;Holy Ghost,&amp;quot; see next section below).  The Greek term can mean &amp;quot;(1) a legal advocate, or counsel for defense, (2) an intercessor, (3) a helper, generally.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://net.bible.org/dictionary.php?word=Paraclete &amp;quot;Paraclete&amp;quot;.] NETBible.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What are the differences in translation in its biblical use?  One of the five references to this word by John (four in his Gospel, and the fifth in his first letter) is in John 15:26, which quotes Jesus:&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: &amp;quot;When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: &amp;quot;When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  &amp;quot;When the Counselor comes -- whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father -- he will testify about me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  &amp;quot;When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father, he will testify on my behalf.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Holy &amp;quot;Spirit&amp;quot; or Holy &amp;quot;Ghost&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The English language lacks an equivalent for the Greek term &amp;quot;pneuma&amp;quot;, which is used 350 times in the New Testament to express the third member of the [[Holy Trinity]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4151 &amp;quot;Pneuma&amp;quot;.] The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This Greek word is typically translated as &amp;quot;to breathe, &amp;quot;to blow,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;of the wind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pneo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4154&amp;amp;version=kjv &amp;quot;Pneo&amp;quot;.] The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It forms the root for the English term &amp;quot;pneumonia&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pneo&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For hundreds of years the English translation of this term in connection with the third member of the [[Holy Trinity]] has been &amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;:&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/HolyGhost.html &amp;quot;Some Thoughts on the Use of the Term the Holy Ghost&amp;quot;.] Geocities.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not only does the King James Bible use the term the Holy Ghost, but all earlier English Bibles did as well. The Holy Ghost is found in Wycliffe's translation 1395, Tyndale’s New Testament 1525, Coverdale 1535, Bishops' Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1599, Mace N.T. 1729, Wesley's N.T. 1755, Douay-Rheims version, and in more modern times it is also found in Montgomery’s New Testament, the Revised Version, the Catholic Douay version 1950, the KJV 21st Century version and the Third Millennium Bible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yet none of the modern English versions of the Bible translates this as &amp;quot;Holy Ghost,&amp;quot; and instead they insist on the less forceful and more ambiguous term &amp;quot;Holy Spirit.&amp;quot;  One commentator observes:&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is ironic that the NKJV, NIV, NASB, RSV and many other modern versions have tossed out the term Holy Ghost, yet they have introduced the totally false idea of human ghosts.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, the New International Version repeatedly refers to a personal, human &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot; where the King James Bible referred to &amp;quot;spirit&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Mt 14:26:&lt;br /&gt;
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::New International Version:  When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. &amp;quot;It's a ghost,&amp;quot; they said, and cried out in fear.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Matthew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://biblestudy.crosswalk.com/mybst/default.aspx?type=bible&amp;amp;translation=NAS&amp;amp;bookcode=mt&amp;amp;bookname=Matthew&amp;amp;chapterid=14&amp;amp;verseid=26 Matthew 14:26.] My Bible Study Tools. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::King James Bible:  And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Matthew&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Luke 24:39:&lt;br /&gt;
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::New International Version:  &amp;quot;Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Luke&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://biblestudy.crosswalk.com/mybst/default.aspx?type=bible&amp;amp;translation=NIV&amp;amp;bookcode=lu&amp;amp;bookname=Luke&amp;amp;chapterid=24&amp;amp;verseid=39 Luke 24:39.] My Bible Study Tools.  Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::King James Bible:  &amp;quot;Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle  me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Luke&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Adulteress Story, beginning of John 8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The authenticity of the story of Jesus and an adulteress appears at John 7:53 through John 8:11 is rejected by all modern biblical translations and by all or nearly all modern biblical scholars, and it does not exist in any of the early biblical manuscripts.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See, e.g.'', [[Essay:Adulteress Story]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The passage has become a favorite of [[liberals]] to argue against [[capital punishment]]:  &amp;quot;Common reasons against capital punishment ... Abolitionists '''often''' quote Jesus' treatment of the adulteress in the Gospel of John as support for their position.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.religioustolerance.org/executb.htm &amp;quot;Capital punishment - the death penalty; Basic reasons: pro and anti&amp;quot;.] ReligiousTolerance.org (emphasis added)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The passage conflicts with Jesus' emphasis on [[Hell]] and is used to deny the very existence of Hell, and thus the necessity of being saved.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Here is an example of a false denial of Hell based on the Adulteress Story: &amp;quot;No one is going to burn in hell. ... Here's what we know from Jesus' teachings. He would never condemn anyone. Read the story of the adulteress about to be stoned.&amp;quot; - Craig. [http://forum.greaterreality.com/messages/9.html &amp;quot;Re: Heaven and Hell&amp;quot;.] Greater Reality Forums.  Forum.GreaterReality.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  How do the different translations of the Bible treat this passage?&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: 7,53-8,11:  The story of the woman caught in adultery is a later insertion here, missing from all early Greek manuscripts.  A Western text-type insertion, attested mainly in Old Latin translations, it is found in different places in different manuscripts: here, or after 7, 36, or at the end of this gospel, or after Lk 21, 38, or at the end of that gospel.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  Other mss [manuscripts] omit bracketed text [John 7:53-8:11].&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  The most ancient authorities lack 7.53-8.11; other authorities add the passage here or after 7.36 or after 21.25 or after Luke 21.38, with variations of text; some mark the passage as doubtful.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Our Father ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Different versions have different translations for the leading Christian prayer, the ''Our Father''.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protestant or Catholic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There appears to be no meaningful differences between translations of the New Testament between Protestants and Catholics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Akin, Jimmy. [http://www.jimmyakin.org/greek/page/2/ &amp;quot;The Greek New Testament&amp;quot;.] JimmyAkin.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There are differences with respect to the Old Testament.&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Bible translations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible Versions|*]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Talk:Disputed Biblical Translations</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: /* a new kettle o' fish */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;==Conflicts w/ Jesus emphasis on Hell==&lt;br /&gt;
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Right now this claim is very unsubstantiated. I think the readers of this article will get more out of it if we tell them ''how'' the passage about the adulterous woman conflicts w/ Jesus emphasis on hell-- not merely say that it does. --[[User:BenjaminS|Ben]] &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User Talk:BenjaminS|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:43, 7 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Good point.  Will try to improve it now per your suggestion.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:39, 7 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Many Christians don't believe in Hell or believe that Hell is a place where we are purified but all will eventually be saved.  See [http://gospelthemes.com/hell.htm Jesus' Teaching on Hell, Samuel G. Dawson] [[User:BernardH|BernardH]] 13:28, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::''or believe that Hell is a place where we are purified but all will eventually be saved.'' That is not believing in Hell; that is believing in [[Purgatory]]. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 05:31, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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''&amp;quot;Many Christians believe etc.&amp;quot;'' &lt;br /&gt;
What kind of argument is that? Truth is independent of belief. What &amp;quot;many christians believe&amp;quot; has no impact on the reality of Hell. &lt;br /&gt;
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Still, no one has yet attempted to explain how the passae conflicts with Jesus' emphasis on Hell.&lt;br /&gt;
We've sufficiently demonstrated that the passage is '''used''' (or misused) to arue against hell, but the page still doesn't explain how or why it is actually in conflict with the reality of Hell (or Jesus' emphasis thereon). --[[User:BenjaminS|Ben]] &amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User Talk:BenjaminS|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 10:10, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: Jesus emphasized Hell more than Heaven in the authentic passages, with Jesus as judge.  In this phony passage, however, Jesus refuses to judge and the woman never asks for forgiveness.  Based on the authentic passages, she's headed for Hell.  Based on the phony passage, she's not.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 13:43, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Human Ghosts? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;''It is ironic that the NKJV, NIV, NASB, RSV and many other modern versions have tossed out the term Holy Ghost, yet they have introduced the totally false idea of human ghosts''&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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I have never heard anyone claim that the bible supports the idea of human ghosts.  On the contrary, it is against the idea.  Could you please point out the basis for the claim that these versions have introduced the idea of human ghosts.  --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(CPAdmin1)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 14:28, 7 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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: You're right that the Bible does not support the idea of human ghosts.  But I've given examples now of how modern translations (erroneously) do.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:22, 7 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The examples do not show that modern translations support the idea of human ghosts.  All the examples support is that modern translators believe that ''the people the Bible was talking about'' believed in human ghosts.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 20:58, 8 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: The &amp;quot;commentator&amp;quot; mentioned in this section is a KJV-only person, who provides a poor argument overall.  The quote of him is wrong (as mentioned above the examples do not show what is claimed) and should be removed.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:13, 8 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: I would imagine that when people say that the bible supports the idea of human ghosts they are referring to 1 Samuel 28, in which Saul has a witch summon the deceased Samuel for counsel.  I have always been personally surprised by the depiction of this story in the bible and I wonder if its translation has changed from the older manuscripts. --[[User:Laches|Laches]] 13:21, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:: That's a curious case!  The connections between human ghosts and the Holy Ghost are patently absurd, however.  I think it has to do with the German (perhaps Old-English?) rootword Geist, which means both Ghost and Spirit. Translation is often a problem. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 13:22, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Adulteress story ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I've removed some bits for the following reasons:&lt;br /&gt;
* I don't ever recall seeing anybody use the passage to argue against capital punishment.&lt;br /&gt;
* I don't ever recall seeing anybody use the passage to argue against hell.  The reference supposedly supporting this claim was actually using the passage to argue against ''condemnation'' of any sort, as part of a larger argument against the existence of hell, but this passage itself wasn't being used to argue against hell itself.&lt;br /&gt;
* I can't see how the passage conflicts with other teaching about hell.&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:35, 8 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Quite the contrary, it's used ''extensively'' by liberal denominations who try to push the &amp;quot;no condemnation&amp;quot; &amp;quot;everyone is saved&amp;quot; view.  I've personally had numerous conversations with &amp;quot;liberal Christians&amp;quot; who brought up the passage to deny Hell itself. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 12:30, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Right.  There's no denying how this passage is used to deny the existence of [[Hell]] (which, by the way, should be capitalized), oppose capital punishment, and even bully anyone who condemns sin in an effective way.  There is already one reference to an example and more could be easily found.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 12:46, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm going to half-agree with Andy here:  I have heard people (ministers included) reference this story as an argument against capital punishment, and/or to downplay the notion of harsh punishments from God.  However, I must take issue with the idea that the story's &amp;quot;authenticity is rejected by modern biblical scholars&amp;quot;.  While some reject it entirely, and most dispute its placement, my understanding is that it is considered to be an actual Jesus story, and the implication that all scholars reject it out of hand is preposterous.  At the ''very'' least, there should be a &amp;quot;some&amp;quot; inserted between &amp;quot;by&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;modern&amp;quot;.--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 14:10, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Given that there's now further testimony of the passage being used to oppose hell and capital punishment, I'll accept that.  However, not all the objections have been addressed.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Further, Andy's edit comment and reply here are offensive, illogical, and unsubstantiated.  As I have repeatedly pointed out before, it is NOT censorship to remove inaccurate information (which is what I believed this to be).  Further, it is NOT a valid argument to simply declare yourself correct (&amp;quot;There's no denying...&amp;quot;).&lt;br /&gt;
:::: Finally, there was no explanation for the reversion of a wording change that was made at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
:::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 21:12, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::: Philip, your edits again distort the entry without justification.  For example, you say that the passage is &amp;quot;misused&amp;quot; to deny the existence of Hell (which you notably spell with a small &amp;quot;h&amp;quot;).  There is evidence that the passage is fake, but no justification for saying it is &amp;quot;misused&amp;quot;.  The passage, if taken at face value, does support an argument denying the existence of Hell.&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The passage taken at face value does ''not'' deny the existence of Hell.  It is an example of Christ's forgiveness, which he offers to everyone, regardless of the severity of their sin.  --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] &amp;lt;small&amp;gt;(CPAdmin1)&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;  &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:01, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::: Another change is you insist on putting a website in the text rather than in a footnote, perhaps to try to downplay the (undeniable) point being made.  Websites belong in the footnotes.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:37, 9 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::: Your &amp;quot;reversion explained&amp;quot; does not explain the wholesale reversion of my edits including formatting changes nor much of my rewording, such as the sentence introducing the different translation comments.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: The passage does not directly nor indirectly mention hell, so does ''not'' deny the existence of hell, at face value or otherwise.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: The &amp;quot;misused&amp;quot; word was yours.  I didn't add that.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: I did not spell Hell with a lower-case &amp;quot;h&amp;quot;.  The only use of that in the section is in a quote that you inserted.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: I did not &amp;quot;insist&amp;quot; on putting a web-site in the text.  I did put it in the text, but only because it's normal practice when quoting someone to say ''in the text'' who is being quoted.  As there was not an author's name to attribute it to, I attributed it to the web-site.&lt;br /&gt;
:::::: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 01:07, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::: ''offensive, illogical, and unsubstantiated'' You are skating on very thin ice with abusive comments like that. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 05:33, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::: You have a problem with the truth?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 06:01, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::: You are both out of order. When comments get above six colons, the indent should be reset to the edge of the page.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 07:04, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::::: Did you just make that up, Mr. nine-colons?  :-) [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:41, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::::::: I thought it was a rule, but maybe I'm wrong. The amount of time I spend on here, I wouldn't be surprised if I'd dreamt it.--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:26, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I didn't know the six colon rule, CP, but I do now! As for Philip: I don't have any problem with the truth; what I do have a problem with is your increasingly aggressive and intemperate attitude towards Andy, who, as the Founder and Leader of Conservapedia is entitled to courtesty and respect, not insult. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 07:15, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
: If I'm increasingly aggressive and intemperate toward Andy, then I'm merely following the example set by our Founder and Leader.  Is there any better way to show courtesy and respect other than to try and be like him?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 08:41, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Philip, your angry and insulting comments are increasingly inappropriate. We're going to keep a high level of discourse here consistent with our purpose.  Also, website references belong in footnotes, not the text.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:43, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::: If we are going to keep a high level of discourse here, why do you insult me by ignoring my questions and comments, by calling my attempts to make the article more accurate &amp;quot;censorship&amp;quot;, and calling me &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot;?  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:10, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::: Philip, we're building an encyclopedia here.  I'm not going to waste more time in talk, talk, talk.  Your edits have far too high a percentage of talk and edits that are reverted.  Deleting information is censorship, and I don't think I ever called you a liberal.  Supporting gun control is a liberal position; claiming that &amp;quot;beauty is on the eye of the beholder&amp;quot; is an atheistic view; and spelling Hell with a small &amp;quot;h&amp;quot; does suggest a denial of it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:21, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::I don't know if using the Adulteress Story to deny Hell is a very common thing. The provided source links to a forum post, where the Adulteress Story seems like a very minor point in the guy's argument. Anyone who is trying to use that verse to deny Hell is really just grasping at straws. Could we find a better source for this? I searched briefly but found no other instance of using the Adulteress Story to deny Hell. '''[[user:FernoKlump|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#000066&amp;quot; &amp;gt;FernoKlump&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]]'''&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User:FernoKlump/petition|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;#bd2433&amp;quot; &amp;gt;Mr. Schlafly! Look at this petition!]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 10:00, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Since Mr. Aschlafly has refused to participate in discussion any further (&amp;quot;I'm not going to waste more time in talk, talk, talk.&amp;quot;) and has shown no further evidence to his side other than offering ad hominum and other fallacious statements like &amp;quot;undeniable&amp;quot;, why not just go with Mr. Philip Rayment's edits? It boggles the mind as to how one can push their side of the discussion without giving any sort of reason. Seems pretty simple which side to pick... [[User:JimJeweler|Jalast Jeweler]] 11:00, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Regardless of whether you agree with other users or not, we do ''not'' tolerate personal insults on this encyclopedia, Jalast Jeweler.  Please keep it civil and objective. [[User:RodWeathers|- Rod Weathers]] 11:11, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==a new kettle o' fish==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm starting a new subsection here to explain the changes I just made to the article, and also to bypass the fussiness above, and perhaps have an actual discussion on the merits, as it were.&lt;br /&gt;
*I changed &amp;quot;authenticity has been rejected by modern biblical scholars&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;authenticity and placement have been disputed by many modern biblical scholars&amp;quot; because a bit of research on the issue showed me that a few scholars think the story is totally bogus, many think it the story is accurate but misplaced, and a fair number think the story is accurate and correctly placed.  Therefore, to say or imply that all agree that the story is bogus is just plain wrong.&lt;br /&gt;
*I indicated somewhere above that I have indeed heard (as Andy wrote) various folks use this passage as an argument against capital punishment, and a few use it to argue against Hell in general.  However, the most recent assertion that some use it to &amp;quot;argue against opposition to sinful behavior...(including) permissiveness to alternative lifestyles, desecration and belittlement of Christianity and Christians by the unfaithful&amp;quot; is just ludicrous--I've never heard anyone ever argue anything like that, ever.  If that's going to be in the article, you're going to need some serious cites.  Therefore, I changed it back to something like Andy first wrote (which still includes his supporting cite).--[[User:RossC|RossC]] 21:25, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:: Your second point is fine, but your first point is simply not accurate.  The overwhelming consensus is that the passage is not authentic, and all modern versions of the Bible confirm this as well as all or nearly all biblical scholars across the political spectrum.  Our description will reflect that, and I'm changing it now.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 21:34, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::To avoid any contention this may cause, could either of you provide citings?  That way we could be sure and add them to the article, rather than just asserting either way. --[[User:LiamG|LiamG]] 21:46, 10 December 2008 (EST)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;The translations of several passages in the [[Bible]] are disputed. This has led to some [[doctrine|doctrinal]] disagreement throughout [[Christian]] history, with scholars and others citing different [[translation]]s of the same passage to support slightly different views. A few critics of [[Christianity]] cite rare uncertainties in translation to challenge the entire religion; this viewpoint ignores the overwhelming agreement in translation and the role of [[faith]], [[prayer]] and divine inspiration in religious discourse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Islam]] dictates that the [[Koran]] be read only in its original [[Arabic]], thereby avoiding any issues of translation. Translations of the Koran do exist, but they are not used for study, worship or devotional purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Isaiah 7:14 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage is a prophesy of the birth of [[Jesus]], and the dispute concerns whether to translate the term for the woman as &amp;quot;virgin&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;young woman.&amp;quot;  The Hebrew term is ambiguous; the Greek term means &amp;quot;virgin&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... The virgin will conceive, have a son, and name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Romans 3:28 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage sparked the [[Reformation]].  [[Martin Luther]] added an extra German word for &amp;quot;alone&amp;quot; (alleine or alleyn) after the phrase: &amp;quot;justified by faith&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;So halten wir nun dafür, daß der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, alleyn durch den Glauben.&amp;quot;  This reflected Luther's view that man is justified (saved) by faith alone, and that salvation comes only from faith. The Roman Catholic Church (and Eastern Orthodox Church) taught that man is justified (saved) by faith and good works. &lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: For we consider that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  For we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  For we hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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== John 19:30 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage describes the last words of [[Jesus]], and what happened next.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: ... he said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: ... Jesus said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  ... He said, &amp;quot;It is finished!&amp;quot;  Then bowing His head, He yielded up His spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  ... he said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Message: .... Jesus said, &amp;quot;It's  done ... complete.&amp;quot;  Bowing his head, he offered up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Holy Spirit&amp;quot; (Paraclete) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus]] used the Greek term &amp;quot;paraclete&amp;quot; to refer to what is now commonly called the &amp;quot;Holy Spirit&amp;quot; in English (formerly the &amp;quot;Holy Ghost,&amp;quot; see next section below).  The Greek term can mean &amp;quot;(1) a legal advocate, or counsel for defense, (2) an intercessor, (3) a helper, generally.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://net.bible.org/dictionary.php?word=Paraclete &amp;quot;Paraclete&amp;quot;.] NETBible.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What are the differences in translation in its biblical use?  One of the five references to this word by John (four in his Gospel, and the fifth in his first letter) is in John 15:26, which quotes Jesus:&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: &amp;quot;When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: &amp;quot;When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  &amp;quot;When the Counselor comes -- whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father -- he will testify about me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  &amp;quot;When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father, he will testify on my behalf.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Holy &amp;quot;Spirit&amp;quot; or Holy &amp;quot;Ghost&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The English language lacks an equivalent for the Greek term &amp;quot;pneuma&amp;quot;, which is used 350 times in the New Testament to express the third member of the [[Holy Trinity]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4151 &amp;quot;Pneuma&amp;quot;.] The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This Greek word is typically translated as &amp;quot;to breathe, &amp;quot;to blow,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;of the wind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pneo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4154&amp;amp;version=kjv &amp;quot;Pneo&amp;quot;.] The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It forms the root for the English term &amp;quot;pneumonia&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pneo&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For hundreds of years the English translation of this term in connection with the third member of the [[Holy Trinity]] has been &amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;:&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/HolyGhost.html &amp;quot;Some Thoughts on the Use of the Term the Holy Ghost&amp;quot;.] Geocities.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not only does the King James Bible use the term the Holy Ghost, but all earlier English Bibles did as well. The Holy Ghost is found in Wycliffe's translation 1395, Tyndale’s New Testament 1525, Coverdale 1535, Bishops' Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1599, Mace N.T. 1729, Wesley's N.T. 1755, Douay-Rheims version, and in more modern times it is also found in Montgomery’s New Testament, the Revised Version, the Catholic Douay version 1950, the KJV 21st Century version and the Third Millennium Bible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yet none of the modern English versions of the Bible translates this as &amp;quot;Holy Ghost,&amp;quot; and instead they insist on the less forceful and more ambiguous term &amp;quot;Holy Spirit.&amp;quot;  One commentator observes:&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is ironic that the NKJV, NIV, NASB, RSV and many other modern versions have tossed out the term Holy Ghost, yet they have introduced the totally false idea of human ghosts.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, the New International Version repeatedly refers to a personal, human &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot; where the King James Bible referred to &amp;quot;spirit&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Mt 14:26:&lt;br /&gt;
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::New International Version:  When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. &amp;quot;It's a ghost,&amp;quot; they said, and cried out in fear.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Matthew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://biblestudy.crosswalk.com/mybst/default.aspx?type=bible&amp;amp;translation=NAS&amp;amp;bookcode=mt&amp;amp;bookname=Matthew&amp;amp;chapterid=14&amp;amp;verseid=26 Matthew 14:26.] My Bible Study Tools. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::King James Bible:  And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Matthew&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Luke 24:39:&lt;br /&gt;
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::New International Version:  &amp;quot;Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Luke&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://biblestudy.crosswalk.com/mybst/default.aspx?type=bible&amp;amp;translation=NIV&amp;amp;bookcode=lu&amp;amp;bookname=Luke&amp;amp;chapterid=24&amp;amp;verseid=39 Luke 24:39.] My Bible Study Tools.  Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::King James Bible:  &amp;quot;Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle  me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Luke&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Adulteress Story, beginning of John 8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The story of Jesus and an adulteress appears at John 7:53 through John 8:11 and its authenticity is rejected by modern biblical scholars.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See, e.g.'', [[Essay:Adulteress Story]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The passage has become a favorite of [[liberals]] to argue against [[capital punishment]] and for permissiveness in general. [emphasis added] &amp;quot;Common reasons against capital punishment ... Abolitionists '''often''' quote Jesus' treatment of the adulteress in the Gospel of John as support for their position.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.religioustolerance.org/executb.htm &amp;quot;Capital punishment - the death penalty; Basic reasons: pro and anti&amp;quot;.] ReligiousTolerance.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The passage conflicts with Jesus's emphasis on [[Hell]] and is misused to claim that Hell does not exist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Here is an example of a false denial of Hell based on the Adulteress Story: &amp;quot; No one is going to burn in hell. ... Here's what we know from Jesus' teachings. He would never condemn anyone. Read the story of the adulteress about to be stoned.&amp;quot; - Craig. [http://forum.greaterreality.com/messages/9.html &amp;quot;Re: Heaven and Hell&amp;quot;.] Greater Reality Forums.  Forum.GreaterReality.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  How do the different translations of the Bible treat this passage?&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: 7,53-8,11:  The story of the woman caught in adultery is a later insertion here, missing from all early Greek manuscripts.  A Western text-type insertion, attested mainly in Old Latin translations, it is found in different places in different manuscripts: here, or after 7, 36, or at the end of this gospel, or after Lk 21, 38, or at the end of that gospel.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  Other mss [manuscripts] omit bracketed text [John 7:53-8:11].&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  The most ancient authorities lack 7.53-8.11; other authorities add the passage here or after 7.36 or after 21.25 or after Luke 21.38, with variations of text; some mark the passage as doubtful.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Our Father ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Different versions have different translations for the leading Christian prayer, the ''Our Father''.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Protestant or Catholic ==&lt;br /&gt;
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There appears to be no meaningful differences between translations of the New Testament between Protestants and Catholics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Akin, Jimmy. [http://www.jimmyakin.org/greek/page/2/ &amp;quot;The Greek New Testament&amp;quot;.] JimmyAkin.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There are differences with respect to the Old Testament.&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bible translations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible Versions|*]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Disputed_Biblical_Translations&amp;diff=582439</id>
		<title>Disputed Biblical Translations</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-09T20:48:29Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: cleaning refs&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;The translations of several passages in the [[Bible]] are disputed. This has led to some [[doctrine|doctrinal]] disagreement throughout [[Christian]] history, with scholars and others citing different [[translation]]s of the same passage to support slightly different views. A few critics of [[Christianity]] cite rare uncertainties in translation to challenge the entire religion; this viewpoint ignores the overwhelming agreement in translation and the role of [[faith]], [[prayer]] and divine inspiration in religious discourse.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Islam]] dictates that the [[Koran]] be read only in its original [[Arabic]], thereby avoiding any issues of translation. Translations of the Koran do exist, but they are not used for study, worship or devotional purposes.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Isaiah 7:14 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage is a prophesy of the birth of [[Jesus]], and the dispute concerns whether to translate the term for the woman as &amp;quot;virgin&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;young woman.&amp;quot;  The Hebrew term is ambiguous; the Greek term means &amp;quot;virgin&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... The virgin will conceive, have a son, and name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|... The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|Look, the young woman is with child and shall bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Romans 3:28 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage sparked the [[Reformation]].  [[Martin Luther]] added an extra German word for &amp;quot;alone&amp;quot; (alleine or alleyn) after the phrase: &amp;quot;justified by faith&amp;quot;: &amp;quot;So halten wir nun dafür, daß der Mensch gerecht werde ohne des Gesetzes Werke, alleyn durch den Glauben.&amp;quot;  This reflected Luther's view that man is justified (saved) by faith alone, and that salvation comes only from faith. The Roman Catholic Church (and Eastern Orthodox Church) taught that man is justified (saved) by faith and good works. &lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: For we consider that a person is justified by faith apart from works of the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  For we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from works of law.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  For we hold that a person is justified by faith apart from works prescribed by the law.&lt;br /&gt;
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== John 19:30 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This passage describes the last words of [[Jesus]], and what happened next.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: ... he said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  And bowing his head, he handed over the spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: ... Jesus said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  ... He said, &amp;quot;It is finished!&amp;quot;  Then bowing His head, He yielded up His spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  ... he said, &amp;quot;It is finished.&amp;quot;  Then he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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:The Message: .... Jesus said, &amp;quot;It's  done ... complete.&amp;quot;  Bowing his head, he offered up his spirit.&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Holy Spirit&amp;quot; (Paraclete) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus]] used the Greek term &amp;quot;paraclete&amp;quot; to refer to what is now commonly called the &amp;quot;Holy Spirit&amp;quot; in English (formerly the &amp;quot;Holy Ghost,&amp;quot; see next section below).  The Greek term can mean &amp;quot;(1) a legal advocate, or counsel for defense, (2) an intercessor, (3) a helper, generally.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://net.bible.org/dictionary.php?word=Paraclete &amp;quot;Paraclete&amp;quot;.] NETBible.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  What are the differences in translation in its biblical use?  One of the five references to this word by John (four in his Gospel, and the fifth in his first letter) is in John 15:26, which quotes Jesus:&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: &amp;quot;When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: &amp;quot;When the Advocate comes whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth that proceeds from the Father, he will testify to me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  &amp;quot;When the Counselor comes -- whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father -- he will testify about me.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  &amp;quot;When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father, he will testify on my behalf.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Holy &amp;quot;Spirit&amp;quot; or Holy &amp;quot;Ghost&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The English language lacks an equivalent for the Greek term &amp;quot;pneuma&amp;quot;, which is used 350 times in the New Testament to express the third member of the [[Holy Trinity]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4151 &amp;quot;Pneuma&amp;quot;.] The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This Greek word is typically translated as &amp;quot;to breathe, &amp;quot;to blow,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;of the wind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pneo&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.biblestudytools.net/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=4154&amp;amp;version=kjv &amp;quot;Pneo&amp;quot;.] The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It forms the root for the English term &amp;quot;pneumonia&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pneo&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For hundreds of years the English translation of this term in connection with the third member of the [[Holy Trinity]] has been &amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;:&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.geocities.com/brandplucked/HolyGhost.html &amp;quot;Some Thoughts on the Use of the Term the Holy Ghost&amp;quot;.] Geocities.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Not only does the King James Bible use the term the Holy Ghost, but all earlier English Bibles did as well. The Holy Ghost is found in Wycliffe's translation 1395, Tyndale’s New Testament 1525, Coverdale 1535, Bishops' Bible 1568, the Geneva Bible 1599, Mace N.T. 1729, Wesley's N.T. 1755, Douay-Rheims version, and in more modern times it is also found in Montgomery’s New Testament, the Revised Version, the Catholic Douay version 1950, the KJV 21st Century version and the Third Millennium Bible. &lt;br /&gt;
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Yet none of the modern English versions of the Bible translates this as &amp;quot;Holy Ghost,&amp;quot; and instead they insist on the less forceful and more ambiguous term &amp;quot;Holy Spirit.&amp;quot;  One commentator observes:&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Holy Ghost&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:It is ironic that the NKJV, NIV, NASB, RSV and many other modern versions have tossed out the term Holy Ghost, yet they have introduced the totally false idea of human ghosts.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, the New International Version repeatedly refers to a personal, human &amp;quot;ghost&amp;quot; where the King James Bible referred to &amp;quot;spirit&amp;quot;:&lt;br /&gt;
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:Mt 14:26:&lt;br /&gt;
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::New International Version:  When the disciples saw him walking on the lake, they were terrified. &amp;quot;It's a ghost,&amp;quot; they said, and cried out in fear.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Matthew&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://biblestudy.crosswalk.com/mybst/default.aspx?type=bible&amp;amp;translation=NAS&amp;amp;bookcode=mt&amp;amp;bookname=Matthew&amp;amp;chapterid=14&amp;amp;verseid=26 Matthew 14:26.] My Bible Study Tools. Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::King James Bible:  And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Matthew&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:Luke 24:39:&lt;br /&gt;
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::New International Version:  &amp;quot;Look at my hands and my feet. It is I myself! Touch me and see; a ghost does not have flesh and bones, as you see I have.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Luke&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://biblestudy.crosswalk.com/mybst/default.aspx?type=bible&amp;amp;translation=NIV&amp;amp;bookcode=lu&amp;amp;bookname=Luke&amp;amp;chapterid=24&amp;amp;verseid=39 Luke 24:39.] My Bible Study Tools.  Crosswalk.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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::King James Bible:  &amp;quot;Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle  me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Luke&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Adulteress Story, beginning of John 8 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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The story of Jesus and an adulteress appears at John 7:53 through John 8:11 and its authenticity is rejected by modern biblical scholars.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See, e.g.'', [[Essay:Adulteress Story]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The passage has become a favorite of [[liberals]] to argue against [[capital punishment]] and for permissiveness in general.  The passage conflicts with Jesus's emphasis on [[Hell]] and is misused to claim that Hell does not exist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Here is an example of a false denial of Hell based on the Adulteress Story: &amp;quot; No one is going to burn in hell. ... Here's what we know from Jesus' teachings. He would never condemn anyone. Read the story of the adulteress about to be stoned.&amp;quot; - Craig. [http://forum.greaterreality.com/messages/9.html &amp;quot;Re: Heaven and Hell&amp;quot;.] Greater Reality Forums.  Forum.GreaterReality.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  How do the different translations of the Bible treat this passage?&lt;br /&gt;
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:New International Version: The earliest manuscripts and many other ancient witnesses do not have John 7:53-8:11.&lt;br /&gt;
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:New American Bible: 7,53-8,11:  The story of the woman caught in adultery is a later insertion here, missing from all early Greek manuscripts.  A Western text-type insertion, attested mainly in Old Latin translations, it is found in different places in different manuscripts: here, or after 7, 36, or at the end of this gospel, or after Lk 21, 38, or at the end of that gospel.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Holman Christian Standard Bible:  Other mss [manuscripts] omit bracketed text [John 7:53-8:11].&lt;br /&gt;
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:New Revised Standard Version:  The most ancient authorities lack 7.53-8.11; other authorities add the passage here or after 7.36 or after 21.25 or after Luke 21.38, with variations of text; some mark the passage as doubtful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Our Father ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Different versions have different translations for the leading Christian prayer, the ''Our Father''.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Protestant or Catholic ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
There appears to be no meaningful differences between translations of the New Testament between Protestants and Catholics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Akin, Jimmy. [http://www.jimmyakin.org/greek/page/2/ &amp;quot;The Greek New Testament&amp;quot;.] JimmyAkin.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There are differences with respect to the Old Testament.&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;references/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[Bible translations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Bible Versions|*]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Evolutionary_racism&amp;diff=581968</id>
		<title>Evolutionary racism</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-09T03:35:04Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''Evolutionary racism''' refers to a [[racist]] philosophy based on [[Darwin]]'s [[evolutionary theory]].  It assumes that men have continually evolved, and thus some races are more evolved than others.  It replaces [[christian]] [[morality]] with the [[atheistic]] &amp;quot;survival of the fittest.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Darwin himself was a racist and white supremacist, claiming:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|At some future period not very distant as measured by centuries, the civilised races of man will almost certainly exterminate and replace the savage races throughout the world. At the same time the anthropomorphous apes...will no doubt be exterminated. The break between man and his nearest Allies will then be wider, for it will intervene between man in a more civilised state, as we may hope, even than the Caucasian, and some ape as low as the baboon, instead of as now between the Negro or Australian and the gorilla.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;DoM6&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext00/dscmn10.txt The Descent of Man], chapter VI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionary racism had enormous impact in the 19th and early 20th centuries, eventually leading to [[eugenics]] programs and influencing [[Adolph Hitler]], who wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The Germans were the higher race, destined for a glorious evolutionary future. For this reason it was essential that the [[Jew]]s should be segregated, otherwise mixed marriages would take place. Were this to happen, all nature’s efforts “to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being may thus be rendered futile”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bergman, Jerry.  [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1675 &amp;quot;Darwinism and the Nazi race Holocaust&amp;quot;] Creationontheweb.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|If nature does not wish that weaker individuals should mate with the stronger, she wishes even less that a superior race should intermingle with an inferior one; because in such cases all her efforts, throughout hundreds of thousands of years, to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being, may thus be rendered futile. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Muehlenberg, Bill. [http://www.billmuehlenberg.com/2008/09/15/a-church-apology-to-darwin/ &amp;quot;A Church Apology to Darwin?&amp;quot;] BillMuehlenberg.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Social effects of the theory of evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed&amp;diff=581777</id>
		<title>Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed</title>
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		<updated>2008-12-09T01:06:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;LiamG: This is the only reference I can find saying this, and I don't think it's accurate anymore&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;'''''Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed''''', the #1 documentary of 2008,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.discovery.org/v/441 Discovery Institute]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; is a [[documentary]] film and DVD charging [[Darwinists]] with suppressing and persecuting scholars who disagree with them in order to avoid discussing the scientific challenges which [[intelligent design]] presents to the [[On_the_Origin_of_Species_by_Means_of_Natural_Selection | Origins of Species]] aspects of [[evolution|the theory of evolution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Stein told O'Reilly, &amp;quot;This whole problem is about violation of the First Amendment. There are many scientists - many - who have been expelled from their jobs, who have had their web sites shut down, who have been denied grants [or] tenure because they wanted to question the limits and boundaries of Darwinism ... that's not how society has progressed.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; .&lt;br /&gt;
The film's premise is that scientists have been met with harsh opposition and/or received punishments from schools, universities and the scientific community merely for daring to ask inconvenient questions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.expelledthemovie.com/news.php Expelled the movie website]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
The documentary is co-written and hosted by [[Ben Stein]] and was released in America on Friday, April 18, 2008.  &lt;br /&gt;
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*This movie follows Ben Stein as he seeks to determine whether Intelligent Design is a pseudo-science trying to undermine evolutionary biology or whether it is legitimate science being suppressed by a scientific establishment that is hostile to any deviation from the status quo.  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wingclips.com/cart.php?target=product&amp;amp;product_id=16857&amp;amp;category_id=778&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the film's trailer, Stein states that there are &amp;quot;people out there who want to keep science in a little box where it can’t possibly touch God&amp;quot; and that &amp;quot;freedom of thought and freedom of inquiry have been expelled from publicly-funded high schools, universities and research institutions.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=nyt&amp;gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/science/27expelled.html?pagewanted=1&amp;amp;_r=2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This also refers to privately funded science institutions as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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Perhaps most infuriating for design opponents is the way the film links Darwin's ideas to [[Social Darwinism]] and destructive materialistic ideologies such as Hitler's [[National Socialism]] and [[Marxist]] [[socialism]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://www.wingclips.com/cart.php?target=product&amp;amp;product_id=16681&amp;amp;category_id=778 Expelled - Implications of Neo-Darwinism (4:15)] - Doctors and Scientists explore how the belief in Neo-Darwinism affects our society.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The film argues that [[scientist]]s and [[educator]]s who promote intelligent design are persecuted by the scientific establishment.&amp;lt;ref name=pressrelease&amp;gt;{{cite web |author=Lesley Burbridge-Bates|publisher=[http://www.premisemedia.com/ Premise Media]|date=[[2007-08-22]] |url=http://www.premisemedia.com/EXPELLED-PressRelease_08-22-07.pdf |title=''Expelled'' [[Press Release]] |accessdate=2007-09-29 |format= |work=}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Examples given by the film include [[Richard Sternberg]], a [[biology|biologist]],  journal editor, and research associate at the [[National Museum of Natural History]], and [[Guillermo Gonzalez]], a pro-[[intelligent design]] [[astrophysics|astrophysicist]] denied tenure at [[Iowa State University]] in 2007.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/science/27expelled.html?_r=3&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin&amp;amp;oref=slogin Scientists Feel Miscast in Film on Life's Origin], New York Times, 27 September 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* The film opens with documentary footage of the Berlin Wall going up and closes with it coming down. The day Darwinism and intelligent design can be fairly discussed without fear of reprisal represents the removal of a barrier even greater than the Berlin Wall.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.bpnews.net/BPFirstPerson.asp?ID=27872]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Summary==&lt;br /&gt;
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The film exposes the ulterior motives of [[intelligent design]] opponents who have taken the lead in suppressing mention of ID in classrooms and scientific journals, based on the theory's ideological implications. The implication being that if ID is true, naturalistic evolution as a causation for all life on the planet is false, which removes the ground on which one of the most successful arguments for atheism is built. The film documents why advocacy for atheism is one motive to suppress ID and raises awareness to those who do not understand the underlying philosophical culture war. &lt;br /&gt;
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The film attempts to describe how the current status quo of the educational system is a ''de facto'' endorsement of atheism as a state religion. As a result of this state sponsored perspective, those teachers, professors and academics who speak publicly to oppose atheistic dogma are denied access to funding, tenure and other benefits of participation in academia. The film does not argue to replace the state religion of atheism with any religion or belief in God. &lt;br /&gt;
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Rather, the film argues that all viewpoints should be included in discussion because of the intrinsic benefits of freedom. To describe the current situation, the film uses the metaphor of a wall erected between [[Darwinism]] and all other alternate explanations, similar to the [[Berlin Wall]] which the Communists erected to prevent communication and movement within the city. Rather than permit students to be exposed to weaknesses and flaws in evolutionary doctrine, the establishment suppresses alternate ideas and destroys the careers of academics and even journalists who openly question it.&lt;br /&gt;
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The film shows how opposition to ID is chiefly based on fervent support for [[atheism]]. ID theory says that a purely naturalistic explanation of the first appearance of life is not as likely as the idea that it was designed. This leads ideologically to questions about an intelligent designer with supernatural powers, just as surely as Darwinism's &amp;quot;survival of the fittest&amp;quot; leads to [[Social Darwinism]] and [[Eugenics]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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* Those who are horrified at the [[Holocaust]] perpetrated by the Nazis condemn Darwinism for providing Hitler with ideological justification for his &amp;quot;[[Final Solution]]&amp;quot;.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Darwinism==&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie describes [[Darwinism]] as a brilliant theory for the 19th century, but hints at some of the many holes in Darwin's work.  One example the films mentions is that modern science has uncovered some aspects of the staggering complexity of the cellular and subcellular mechanisms. The film claims that armed with even a limited knowledge of the inner workings at the cellular level, the idea that this life randomly designed itself almost defies credulity. This is a material fact of which [[Charles Darwin|Darwin]] was wholly unaware. &lt;br /&gt;
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But the film does not point to the problems with Darwin's work to prove that evolution is false. In fact, the film accepts that over time, species really do adapt or evolve as described by Darwin. The film pays tribute to the brilliance of Darwin, who correctly described adaptation, natural selection and some evolutionary processes. &lt;br /&gt;
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The film's criticism is not so much with Darwin, but rather with the atheistic dogma that has become attached to Darwinism. The film points out that others have used Darwin's ideas as a panacea to neatly resolve the question of the origins of life. Through brief examples, the film illustrates why the Theory of Evolution as an explanation for the origins of life requires a leap of faith in atheism that is at least as problematic as the leap required to believe the reverse.  This sets up the main thrust of the film. Darwin's theory of Evolution by means of natural selection does not address the issue of the origins of life.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Academic Freedom==&lt;br /&gt;
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Another point the film makes is that science is never served by a strict adherence to dogma.  No question in science should be off the table.  Therefore, a scientific mind must allow for the possibility that anything not falsifiable is possible. Contrary to this thought, forces in our culture today are fully invested in an atheistic concept of the universe and thus their interpretation of the theory of evolution and the ''Origin of Species'' is above reproach. These forces are fully entrenched in academia and it is policy at many institutions of learning to brook no dissent when it comes to the idea of intelligent design. &lt;br /&gt;
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The open mind begs the question: if we cannot establish with certainty whether the life was created or whether it appeared from sheer luck, then why are we forcing one of these two choices upon our academia?&lt;br /&gt;
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Just as [[Einstein]]'s [[Theory of Relativity]] obliterated and at the same time upheld [[Isaac Newton]]'s work in Physics, the film implies that there is perhaps a great deal to learn by asking questions about the origins of life. The film shows why Darwin's work is important and in many respects valid. That said, Darwin's works should not be used as philosophical works to describe the nature of God or the origins of life.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Not dogmatic about intelligent design ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ben Stein told Bill O'Reilly,&lt;br /&gt;
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: Intelligent design is an attempt to fill in the gaps; it might be totally wrong. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.expelledthemovie.com/video.php Film trailer]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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While makers of the documentary say the movie doesn't seek to champion intelligent design as the sole truth, they say it calls for more academic freedom, where challenges to any scientific theory including Darwinism would be fairly considered.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; [http://wingclips.com/cart.php?target=main&amp;amp;page=newsworthy_articles28&amp;amp;pageID=0 'Expelled' Approaches DVD Release Date]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Eugenics]]==&lt;br /&gt;
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The film shows the historical connection between the ideology of &amp;quot;[[survival of the fittest]]&amp;quot; and the [[Holocaust]]. By the 1920s, German textbooks were teaching evolutionary concepts including heredity and racial hygiene.  The Kaiser Wilhelm Institute of Anthropology, Human Heredity, and Eugenics was founded in 1927; in 1933, Germany passed the Law for the Protection of Heredity Health. [[Josef Mengele]] studied [[anthropology]] and [[paleontology]] and received his Ph.D. for his thesis entitled &amp;quot;Racial Morphological Research on the Lower Jaw Section of Four Racial Groups.&amp;quot; In 1937, Mengele was recommended for and received a position as a research assistant with the Third Reich Institute for Hereditary, Biology and Racial Purity at the University of Frankfort, and subsequently became the &amp;quot;Angel of Death&amp;quot; for directing the operation of gas chambers of the [[Holocaust]] and for conducting horrific medical experiments on inmates in pursuit of [[eugenics]].  [[Evolutionist]] [[Stephen Jay Gould]] wrote:  &amp;quot;The [[Nazi]] racial hygiene program began with involuntary sterilizations and ended with [[genocide]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.georgetown.edu/research/nrcbl/scopenotes/sn28.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*One academic says in the film, &amp;quot;While I would never want to indict a theory for how someone misused it ... [yet] views of human nature that lower our estimation of what we are have consequences to how people treat each other.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.wingclips.com/cart.php?target=product&amp;amp;product_id=16681&amp;amp;category_id=778&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Steven C. Meyer said, &amp;quot;In Darwinism there's a denial of any intrinsic dignity for human persons. We are the result of undirected natural processes that did not have us in mind&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Meyer is alluding to a statement by Harvard paleontologist [[George Gaylord Simpson]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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While the film takes pains to point out the theory of evolution is not solely responsible for the Holocaust, one Jewish group felt the tie-in between Darwin's theory and the Holocaust went too far.&amp;lt;ref name=ADL&amp;gt; [http://adl.org/PresRele/HolNa_52/5277_52.htm Anti-Evolution Film Misappropriates the Holocaust]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, writers such as [[Hannah Arendt]] have uncontroversially (among researchers on this topic) pointed out the linkage between Darwinism and Hitler's [[Eugenics]]-based program of mass murder.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Weikart, Richard, [http://www.uncommondescent.com/expelled/was-it-%E2%80%9Cshameful%E2%80%9D-for-expelled-to-connect-darwinism-and-nazi-atrocities Was It Shameful for “Expelled” to Connect Darwinism and Nazi Atrocities?] 3rd May, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Filmmaker statements==&lt;br /&gt;
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{{quotebox|&amp;quot;If you acknowledge this idea that [[design]] can be detected scientifically in the universe, then you open up the door to saying, 'Maybe this [[atheist]]ic view isn't true,' [and] the entire worldview of people who are atheists crashes down around them,&amp;quot; Mathis said. &amp;quot;This is a foundational concept for people who believe this way. So they defend it with incredible vigor.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sbcbaptistpress.org/bpnews.asp?id=27761 Intelligent Design foes no match for Stein in 'Expelled'] - Baptist Press &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; }}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Positive reception==&lt;br /&gt;
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In ''National Review'', [[David Klinghoffer]], a Senior Fellow at the [[Discovery Institute]],  describes the [[Darwin-Hitler connection]]:&lt;br /&gt;
* Expelled touches on [[Darwinism]]’s historical social costs, notably the unintended contribution to [[Nazi]] racial theories. That part packs an emotional wallop. It also happens to be based on impeccable scholarship. &amp;lt;ref name=dk&amp;gt;[http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mjg1NDg2ZDM5YTMwMGFiZGNhNTU5M2MwOTQ2NGE1Mjc=]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The key elements in the ideology that produced [[Auschwitz]] are [[moral relativism]] aligned with a rejection of the sacredness of [[human life]], a belief that violent competition in nature creates greater and lesser [[races]], that the greater will inevitably exterminate the lesser, and finally that the lesser race most in need of extermination is the [[Jews]]. All but the last of these ideas may be found in [[Darwin]]’s writing.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Tom Bethell, a [[conservative]] journalist for the ''[[American Spectator]]'', wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
:The film, a documentary, is about scientists and researchers who acknowledge the scientific evidence for the intelligent design of life and who have been ostracized or denied tenure as a result. In a word, they have been &amp;quot;expelled&amp;quot; from the academy. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12759&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Carl Wieland]], the managing director for [[Creation Ministries International]], wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|This powerful documentary is all about the persecution and censorship of any scientist who dares to oppose the Darwinist paradigm, by even suggesting the relatively modest hypothesis that the universe shows detectable evidence of design.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wieland, Carl, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5638/ Cracking the wall in science] 20th February, 2008, (Creation Ministries International).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Richard Dawkins]] &amp;quot;posits a creation theory of his own that fits the parameters of the film's working definition of intelligent design&amp;quot; in [[Expelled]], but claims the movie is &amp;quot;dull, artless, amateurish, too long, poorly constructed, and utterly devoid of any style, wit, or subtlety.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www2.nysun.com/article/74583&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In his quest to attack Ben Stein, Kluger puts words in his mouth, and then commits the [[strawman fallacy]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|&amp;quot;[Stein] makes all the usual mistakes nonscientists make whenever they try to take down evolution, asking, for example, how something as complex as a living cell could have possibly arisen whole from the earth's primordial soup. The answer is it couldn't--and it didn't...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kluger, Jeffrey, [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1729703,00.html Ben Stein Dukes it Out with Darwin], April 10th, 2008, &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Time&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The movie does not criticize Darwinists for saying the cell &amp;quot;arose whole&amp;quot; but for arguing &amp;quot;that life arose from a primordial sea on a lifeless planet through a chance collision of chemicals&amp;quot;. This is the typical pro-evolution device of pretending that critics don't understand what evolution is saying. But it backfires, because the movie comes with a leader's guide which shows that Kluger is the one in error.&lt;br /&gt;
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A victim of the sort of discrimination the film documents, [[Russell Humphreys]] said of the film that:&lt;br /&gt;
{{QuoteBox|...it kicked me in the gut. It made me see—no, feel—that I’d grown accustomed to the intolerable. I’d been taking the censorship as something in the natural order of things, and as the suppression increased, I just adjusted to it, like the proverbial frog in hot water. But the movie made me realize that our God-ordained right of free thought and speech is under systematic and increasing attack. By controlling the public “microphone”, as Phil Johnson says, the Darwinists have been hoodwinking our minds.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;RH&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Humphreys, Russel, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5975 Not too old to be Expelled] 29th August, 2008 (Creation Ministries International)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Box Office Reception ==&lt;br /&gt;
''Expelled'' opened on April 18, 2008, on 1000 screens in America. It grossed $2.97 million US, $2,824 per screen, in its first weekend&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&amp;amp;id=expelled.htm Box Office Mojo]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and after three weeks had grossed $6.9 million US.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=expelled.htm Box Office Mojo]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It continued to make over $1,000 per screen in its third weekend&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2008&amp;amp;wknd=18&amp;amp;p=.htm BOX OFFICE MOJO, WEEKEND BOX OFFICE, May 2–4, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The producers claim that it was pulled from American theaters due to a lawsuit by Yoko Ono.  After the movie won a victory in the lawsuit, a second run release was announced&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://expelledthemovie.com/rerelease.php Expelled Re-Released]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Initially, Expelled grossed a domestic $7.7 million on a $3.5 million production budget.  The promotional budget is unknown. After winning the lawsuit filed by Yoko Ono, ''Expelled'' also began opening in international theaters.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Viewer Reception==&lt;br /&gt;
Because of the blackballing of the film by people who had never seen it, it is sometimes hard to tell what actual viewers thought.  Removing the almost obligatory '1' ratings that detractors of the film give even if they haven't seen it, 1600 voters on the IMDB website gave it a 8.5 rating on a scale from 1 to 10.&lt;br /&gt;
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Visitors to the Box Office Mojo website gave it a &amp;quot;B-&amp;quot; rating, but this was an average of 266 &amp;quot;A&amp;quot; ratings, 17 &amp;quot;B&amp;quot; ratings, three &amp;quot;C&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;D&amp;quot; ratings each, and 135 &amp;quot;F&amp;quot; ratings, strongly supporting the idea that people's views of the topic affected their view of the film.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=expelled.htm Expelled], on Box Office Mojo.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Negative Reception==&lt;br /&gt;
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Before the film opened, pro-[[evolution]] opponents of the film were heavily critical of its premise. &lt;br /&gt;
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The pro-[[evolution]] magazine ''[[Scientific American]]'' criticized the film, calling it &amp;quot;intellectually dishonest,&amp;quot; and detailed their objections with the film and intelligent design in a series of inflammatory articles.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=sciam-reviews-expelled&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[NCSE]] used the film's release to launch a fresh attack on ID, repeatedly calling it &amp;quot;creationism&amp;quot; as part of their strategy to demonize scientific critiques of evolution. The gist of their defense of Caroline Crocker's dismissal was (1) she wasn't &amp;quot;fired&amp;quot; (because that means only immediate termination in their book) but merely let go at the end of the semester as is common practice when a teacher is no longer needed on the faculty; and (2) each mention of intelligent design in class was an unauthorized addition to the curriculum. Apparently, only pro-evolution information is allowed in evolution class, and its weaknesses are not to be revealed if you want to get [[tenure]]. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.expelledexposed.com/index.php/the-truth/crocker&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John Derbyshire, a columnist at the [[conservative]] [[National Review|National Review Online]], wrote a surprisingly critical review, ''despite not having seen the film'', and confused [[intelligent design]] with [[creationism]].  He said that &amp;quot;[[creationists]]&amp;quot; have been &amp;quot;morally corrupted&amp;quot; and engage in &amp;quot;willful act[s] of deception.&amp;quot; He concludes that attacking &amp;quot;science&amp;quot; (i.e. [[evolution]]) is equivalent to attacking [[Western Civilization]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZGYwMzdjOWRmNGRhOWQ4MTQyZDMxNjNhYTU1YTE5Njk=&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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As expected for a movie that is not '[[politically correct]]', critics paid to rate movies have been harsh with only 3 positive reviews out of 33 on the website Rotten Tomatoes, and a 20 out of 100 rating on the website Metacritic.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Issues surrounding the film ==   &lt;br /&gt;
Allegations have been made that the producers of the film [[Premise Media|used copyrighted material without permission]] at multiple points in the film. Yoko Ono, owner of the rights to John Lennon's songs including the one sampled in the film, &amp;quot;Imagine&amp;quot;, has sued Premise Media for copyright violation. The Executive Producer and Chairman of Premise Media Logan Craft replied, &amp;quot;The fair use doctrine is a well established principle that gives the public the right to freely use portions of copyrighted materials for the purposes of commentary and criticism. While some may not like what we have to say or how we say it, we have the free speech right to do so - just as other political and social commentators have been doing for years.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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The film's star Ben Stein was perhaps a bit more caustic in his response, &amp;quot;So Yoko Ono is suing over the brief Constitutionally protected use of a song that wants us to 'Imagine no possessions'? Maybe instead of wasting everyone's time trying to silence a documentary she should give the song to the world for free? After all, ' ''imagine all the people sharing all the world...You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the World can live as one.' ''&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://motiveentertainment.createsend.com/viewEmail.aspx?cID=EEA85C4C1D1CCF47&amp;amp;sID=99BDE890D78CA9CD8A54066AFB113747&amp;amp;dID=5CB9CB5A1CE688CE   ] Premise Media Press Release&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On June 2, 2008, U.S. District Judge Sidney Stein (no relation to Ben Stein) ruled in favor of the filmmakers under the &amp;quot;fair use&amp;quot; provision.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/entertainmentNews/idUSN0231537020080602&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Atheism|Atheist]] [[professor]] [[Paul Zachary Myers|PZ Myers]] attempted to attend a pre-release screening of the film, but was prevented from entering by security officials. However, [[Richard Dawkins]], who had accompanied Myers, was able to get in by using his rarely used real first name, &amp;quot;Clinton.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dean, Cornelia, [http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/science/21expelledw.html No Admission for Evolutionary Biologist at Creationist (sic) Film], ''The New York Times'', 21st March, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Theory of evolution|Evolutionist]] [[Richard Dawkins]] claimed he was tricked into appearing, indicating that he had been told it would be a movie named ''Crossroads'' that would be focused on &amp;quot;exploring the controversy.&amp;quot; (Two others who similarly claimed to have been deceived said they would have appeared anyway.) In response, Ben Stein said that no one he interviewed asked what the film would be about, and the co-producer Walt Ruloff said at the preview that interviewees were paid and were even told ahead of time what the questions would be.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bethell, Tom, [http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=12759 No Intelligence Allowed] ''The American Spectator'', 19th February, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*Regarding claims by Dawkins and Myers that filmmakers were tricked into being interviewed for the film, Ruloff has denied any wrongdoing. &amp;quot;There is some serious mistreatment and downright reprehensible behavior going on here,&amp;quot; said Ruloff, &amp;quot;but I can assure you it's not coming from us. We're just the ones exposing it.&amp;quot; [http://wingclips.com/cart.php?target=main&amp;amp;page=newsworthy_articles28&amp;amp;pageID=0]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Film Clips==&lt;br /&gt;
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WingClips provides several free glimpses into &amp;quot;Expelled&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wingclips.com/cart.php?target=product&amp;amp;product_id=16680&amp;amp;category_id=778 Expelled - Genetic Mutation (2:23)] - Scientists discuss how the evolutionary theory of random genetic change contradicts what really occurs in nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Origins debate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Theory of evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Creation-evolution controversy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Design detection]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Suppression of alternatives to evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Premise Media]] (Producers of the film)&lt;br /&gt;
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== External links ==&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.discovery.org/a/4689 Michael Shermer’s Fact-Free Attack on &amp;lt;i&amp;gt;Expelled&amp;lt;/i&amp;gt; Exposes Intolerance of Darwinists towards Pro-Intelligent Design Scientists]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://expelledthemovie.com/theaterap.php Theater locator for North America]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/expelled_no_intelligence_allowed/ Reviews of 'Expelled' on Rotten Tomatoes.]&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://www.christianitytoday.com/movies/reviews/2008/expelled.html Christianity Today review of 'Expelled']&lt;br /&gt;
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'''George Walker Bush''' (born New Haven, [[Connecticut]] 1946) was the Governor of [[Texas]] (1996-2001) and has served as the 43rd [[President of the United States of America]] since 2001. Campaigning on the notion that the United States should not be in the business of nation-building,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/transcripts/u221003.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he won the office by a narrow margin in the decisive State of [[Florida]] in the [[United States presidential election, 2000|2000 Presidential election]]. Legal challenges to the certified vote count went all the way to the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] when [[liberal]] Democratic contender [[Al Gore]], who initially conceded defeat on the night of the election, then contested the outcome for weeks until the Supreme Court case [[Bush v. Gore]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[United States presidential election, 2004|2004 Presidential election]] Bush won reelection, helped in part by a 300,000 vote victory (5%) in the State of Florida, where the outcome had been so close in 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/SummaryRpt.asp?ElectionDate=11/2/2004&amp;amp;Race=PRE&amp;amp;DATAMODE= Florida Election Records], ''[[Florida Dept. of State]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Leftist]] Democratic candidate [[John Kerry]] conceded defeat the day after the election.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Economic issues===&lt;br /&gt;
Upon gaining office in 2001, Bush signed into law a $1.35 trillion cut in [[taxation]] over 10 years. The plan included the objectives of doubling the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reducing the tax penalty on [[marriage|married couples]] and fully repealing the [[Estate tax|tax on estates]]. A [[United States Senate]] Finance Committee Report estimated that with all the planned reductions fully phased in, the average family of four making $50,000 would save $1,825 per year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/06/07/bush.taxes/ $1.35 trillion tax cut becomes law], CNN, 21 June 2001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the tax cuts, [[IRS]] revenues increased from $1.78 trillion in 2003 to $2.56 trillion in 2007 with a 46.3% increase of individual income tax receipts. Surging $785 billion since the 2003 investment tax cuts, it is the largest four-year revenue increase in U.S. history&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119189497675953035.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bush has presided over a period of general economic growth. This is partially due to changes in the stock market that lead to a record high in 2007, although the [[NASDAQ]] is still down considerably from the levels it was at before the Dot-com bubble burst. Corporations show profits growing by double digits growth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/money/markets/us/2006-05-08-mart-usat_x.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Even the working class is benefiting from the Bush economy, as unemployment hits an all time low in March 2007.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/economy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bush signed into law a minimum wage increase, one of the platforms for the Democrats in the 2006 Congressional elections, after the House and Senate included Bush's request of provisions for small-business tax breaks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/20/AR2006122001784.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001666.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Tax policies have been favorable to reducing the [[Capital Gains Tax]], with a subsequent surge in investment.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Foreign policy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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George W. Bush has spent most of his Presidency focusing on foreign policy issues, namely the war on terror in response to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against the USA, when a series of terrorist attacks destroyed the twin towers of the [[World Trade Center]] and severely damaged the [[Pentagon]], resulting in the deaths of an estimated 3,000 people. On October 8, 2001, during an address to [[Congress]], President Bush announced the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security. In his [[State of the Union]] address on January 29, 2002, he asserted that an &amp;quot;[[axis of evil]]&amp;quot; consisting of [[North Korea]], [[Iran]], and [[Iraq]] was &amp;quot;arming to threaten the peace of the world&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pose[d] a grave and growing danger&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html Presidential State of the Union Address] [[January 29]] [[2002]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Since then, the Bush administration has pursued military action in [[Afghanistan]] and, more controversially, in [[Iraq]], with the stated aims of eliminating threats to United States security and combating [[terrorism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Afghanistan===&lt;br /&gt;
On October 7, 2001, US and [[Australia]]n forces were deployed in [[Afghanistan]], then governed by the [[Taliban]], an extremist [[Islamic]] government -- a decision that was backed by most of the industrialized world. The Taliban had been fighting an active insurgency who they had bottled up in a tiny portion of the country, but never defeated.  The US and Australian forces initiated a [[bombing]] campaign which turned the tide as they could no longer bottle up, or stop, the insurgency who attacked them after each bombing campaign.  This led to the Taliban losing control of [[Kabul]], Afghanistan's capital city, on November 13. By December 2001, an &amp;quot;Afghan Interim Authority&amp;quot; had been installed, led by current Afghan President [[Hamid Karzai]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/isaf.cfm Fact Sheet], Center for Defense Information, 2002-02-14&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The stated aims of military action in Afghanistan were to topple the Taliban and to eliminate or capture key leaders of the terrorist group [[al-Qaeda]], as well as destroying all al-Qaeda bases and activities in Afghanistan. However, al-Qaeda leader [[Osama bin Laden]] escaped a battle in December 2001 in [[Tora Bora]] and has not yet been successfully captured.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A62618-2002Apr16 U.S. Concludes [[Bin Laden]] Escaped at [[Tora Bora]] Fight], The Washington Post, 2002-04-17&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the US troops' early success in removing them from power, the Taliban was regrouping and amassing funds and recruits by 2003.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0508/p01s02-wosc.html?related Taliban Appears to be Regrouped and Well-Funded], Christian Science Monitor, 2003-05-08&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2006, offensives against the Taliban such as [[Operation Mountain Thrust]] attained limited success.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.defenselink.mil/news/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=285 World Cannot Give Up On Afghanistan, Coalition Officials Say], US Department of Defense, 2006-02-28&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Taliban remain a major threat to security in Afghanistan today, with US and allied troops working alongside the Afghan government of [[Hamid Karzai]] to combat the Taliban.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Iraq===&lt;br /&gt;
Egyptian President [[Hosni Mubarek]] and Libyan [[Socialist]] General Secretary [[Muammar Gaddafi]] in negotiations with [[Saddam Hussein]] relayed a message through Italian Prime Minister [[Silvio Berlusconi]] and Spanish President [[Jose Maria Aznar]] to UK Prime Minister [[Tony Blair]] and President Bush] that Saddam would be willing to avoid removal by force and voluntarily go into exile, provided Saddam was allowed to take $1 billion dollars and &amp;quot;all the information he wants about [[weapons of mass destruction]].&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/09/saddam_risked_his_life_for_wmd_1.asp Saddam Risked His Life for WMD Secrets], ''WeeklyStandard.com. September 29, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003646639 Scoop for Spanish Daily: Transcript of Private 2003 Bush Talk Promising Iraq Invasion], ''Editor &amp;amp; Publisher'', September 26, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/26/AR2007092602414.html Report Says Hussein Was Open To Exile Before 2003 Invasion], He Is Said to Have Sought $1 Billion and Information on Arms, By Karen DeYoung and Michael Abramowitz, ''[[Washington Post]], September 27, 2007; Page A17.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Llego/momento/deshacerse/Sadam/elpepunac/20070926elpepinac_1/Tes Llegó el momento de deshacerse de Sadam], ''El Pais'', 26/09/2007. (In Spanish).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In a show down with Congressional Democrats after taking control of the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] and [[U.S. Senate|Senate]] in the 2006 Congressional Midterm elections, Democrats retreated on their pledge to end the [[Iraq War]] early and bring the troops home.  Democrats had threatened to withhold funding for the troops unless a date certain for withdrawal was set.   After the final vote, 280-142 in the House and 80-14 in the Senate, the anti-War movement was defeated.  The deal cut with Democratic leaders in exchange for their acquiescing to fund the troops calls for the President to sign legislation raising the [[minimum wage]].  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070525-122215-4854r.htm Congress OKs war bill sans time-line,] By S.A. Miller, The Washington Times'', May 25, 2007. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  One commentator remarked, &amp;quot;Despite all the talk of standing up to George W. Bush, despite all the bravado about taking control of Congress, despite the so-called mandate to change direction, Democrats caved....They claim that the majority of Americans are with them on the Iraq issue, but...President Bush, at the weakest moment of his presidency, still bested his Democratic rivals.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/phyrillas/05292007.htm Democrats Show True Colors],  Tony Phyrillas, ''New Media journal'', May 29, 2007, &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Involvement in the 2008 Presidential election==&lt;br /&gt;
In March 2008, Bush endorsed his one-time rival [[John McCain]] as the Republican candidate for President of the United States. However, due to the President's declining popularity in polls, McCain appeared to distance himself from Mr. Bush on the campaign trail. At the same time, [[Democratic]] candidiate [[Barack Obama]] tried to portray a McCain presidency as four more years of George W. Bush. The President spoke by videolink at the 2008 [[Republican National Convention]], while his wife Laura appeared on stage with McCain's wife [[Cindy McCain|Cindy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain lost the election to Senator Obama, and President Bush met with the new president-elect to discuss the presidential transition between his administration and Obama's, which he promised would be efficient and without problems. George W. Bush's term ends at noon on January 20, 2009, at which point President-elect Obama will be inaugurated. In an interview with ABC's [[Charles Gibson]] in December 2008, Bush said his retirement plans included moving back to his home state of Texas and writing a book. He also wants to build an institute at the Southern Methodist University to serve as a non-partisan public policy forum, to debate issues and run volunteer projects from. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Family ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GWBush.jpg|thumb|300px|right|President Bush admires pictures of his family in the Oval Office.]]&lt;br /&gt;
George W. Bush is the son of [[George H. W. Bush]], who served as vice-president from 1981 to 1989 and as president from 1989 to 1993, and [[Barbara Bush]]. President Bush is married to [[Laura Bush|Laura Welch Bush]], a former teacher and librarian, and they have twin daughters, Barbara and Jenna. John Ellis &amp;quot;Jeb&amp;quot; Bush, Neil Bush and Marvin Bush are his brothers. Dorothy Bush Koch is his only surviving sister, as Pauline Robinson Bush died at age four of [[leukemia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Faith==&lt;br /&gt;
George W. Bush is a member of the [[United Methodist Church]], and most people feel that George W. Bush's faith is sincere and profound. ''The Faith of George W. Bush'', a non-political book by author Stephen Strang, made the [[New York Times]] best-sellers list. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianlifemissions.org/ministries/georgewbush.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
When asked where he would be without the influence of family friend [[Billy Graham]], George W. Bush said &amp;quot;I wouldn't be president.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;It was just a conversation,&amp;quot; said the younger Bush about a talk with Graham in the mid-'80s that changed his life. During the pivotal conversation Bush recalled saying, &amp;quot;'You know, Billy, I'm longing for something.' And I know that he sent me a [[Bible]] I still have. All I can tell you is that as a result of being inspired by Billy Graham, I started reading the Bible and shortly after, I quit drinking.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Billy Graham and the White House [http://religion.beloblog.com/archives/2007/08/billy_graham_and_the_white_hou_1.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bush's faith led him to veto a bill which would have provided for federal funding of immoral [[embryonic stem cell research]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Polls==&lt;br /&gt;
When President George W. Bush entered office, his popularity rating was near 50%.  However, after the [[September 11]] attacks, his popularity rose significantly, reaching an all-time high of 90%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/07/usatgallup-po-1.html USAT Gallup Poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Since, then, though, it declined as some of his policies have become unpopular (largely due to the media's persistently negative -- and [[liberal bias|biased]] -- reporting on the [[Iraq War]] and misrepresentation of his policies).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Historical Bush Approval Ratings from University of Minnesota [http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In 2007, George had an approval rating of only 24%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1624620720071017?feedType=RSS&amp;amp;feedName=topNews&amp;amp;rpc=22&amp;amp;sp=true Voters unhappy with Bush and Congress], Reuters, October 17 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The same poll gave the Democratic controlled Congress an approval rating of only 11%). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/George W. Bush|Articles about '''George W. Bush''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''George Walker Bush''' (born New Haven, [[Connecticut]] 1946) was the Governor of [[Texas]] (1996-2001) and has served as the 43rd [[President of the United States of America]] since 2001. Campaigning on the notion that the United States should not be in the business of nation-building,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2000/debates/transcripts/u221003.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; he won the office by a narrow margin in the decisive State of [[Florida]] in the [[United States presidential election, 2000|2000 Presidential election]]. Legal challenges to the certified vote count went all the way to the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] when [[liberal]] Democratic contender [[Al Gore]], who initially conceded defeat on the night of the election, then contested the outcome for weeks until the Supreme Court case [[Bush v. Gore]].&lt;br /&gt;
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In the [[United States presidential election, 2004|2004 Presidential election]] Bush won reelection, helped in part by a 300,000 vote victory (5%) in the State of Florida, where the outcome had been so close in 2000.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://election.dos.state.fl.us/elections/resultsarchive/SummaryRpt.asp?ElectionDate=11/2/2004&amp;amp;Race=PRE&amp;amp;DATAMODE= Florida Election Records], ''[[Florida Dept. of State]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Leftist]] Democratic candidate [[John Kerry]] conceded defeat the day after the election.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidency (2001-2009)==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Economic issues===&lt;br /&gt;
Upon gaining office in 2001, Bush signed into law a $1.35 trillion cut in [[taxation]] over 10 years. The plan included the objectives of doubling the child tax credit from $500 to $1,000, reducing the tax penalty on [[marriage|married couples]] and fully repealing the [[Estate tax|tax on estates]]. A [[United States Senate]] Finance Committee Report estimated that with all the planned reductions fully phased in, the average family of four making $50,000 would save $1,825 per year.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/06/07/bush.taxes/ $1.35 trillion tax cut becomes law], CNN, 21 June 2001&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the tax cuts, [[IRS]] revenues increased from $1.78 trillion in 2003 to $2.56 trillion in 2007 with a 46.3% increase of individual income tax receipts. Surging $785 billion since the 2003 investment tax cuts, it is the largest four-year revenue increase in U.S. history&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119189497675953035.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bush has presided over a period of general economic growth. This is partially due to changes in the stock market that lead to a record high in 2007, although the [[NASDAQ]] is still down considerably from the levels it was at before the Dot-com bubble burst. Corporations show profits growing by double digits growth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/money/markets/us/2006-05-08-mart-usat_x.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Even the working class is benefiting from the Bush economy, as unemployment hits an all time low in March 2007.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/economy&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bush signed into law a minimum wage increase, one of the platforms for the Democrats in the 2006 Congressional elections, after the House and Senate included Bush's request of provisions for small-business tax breaks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/12/20/AR2006122001784.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/10/AR2007011001666.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Tax policies have been favorable to reducing the [[Capital Gains Tax]], with a subsequent surge in investment.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Foreign policy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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George W. Bush has spent most of his Presidency focusing on foreign policy issues, namely the war on terror in response to the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks against the USA, when a series of terrorist attacks destroyed the twin towers of the [[World Trade Center]] and severely damaged the [[Pentagon]], resulting in the deaths of an estimated 3,000 people. On October 8, 2001, during an address to [[Congress]], President Bush announced the establishment of the Department of Homeland Security. In his [[State of the Union]] address on January 29, 2002, he asserted that an &amp;quot;[[axis of evil]]&amp;quot; consisting of [[North Korea]], [[Iran]], and [[Iraq]] was &amp;quot;arming to threaten the peace of the world&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;pose[d] a grave and growing danger&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020129-11.html Presidential State of the Union Address] [[January 29]] [[2002]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Since then, the Bush administration has pursued military action in [[Afghanistan]] and, more controversially, in [[Iraq]], with the stated aims of eliminating threats to United States security and combating [[terrorism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Afghanistan===&lt;br /&gt;
On October 7, 2001, US and [[Australia]]n forces were deployed in [[Afghanistan]], then governed by the [[Taliban]], an extremist [[Islamic]] government -- a decision that was backed by most of the industrialized world. The Taliban had been fighting an active insurgency who they had bottled up in a tiny portion of the country, but never defeated.  The US and Australian forces initiated a [[bombing]] campaign which turned the tide as they could no longer bottle up, or stop, the insurgency who attacked them after each bombing campaign.  This led to the Taliban losing control of [[Kabul]], Afghanistan's capital city, on November 13. By December 2001, an &amp;quot;Afghan Interim Authority&amp;quot; had been installed, led by current Afghan President [[Hamid Karzai]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cdi.org/terrorism/isaf.cfm Fact Sheet], Center for Defense Information, 2002-02-14&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The stated aims of military action in Afghanistan were to topple the Taliban and to eliminate or capture key leaders of the terrorist group [[al-Qaeda]], as well as destroying all al-Qaeda bases and activities in Afghanistan. However, al-Qaeda leader [[Osama bin Laden]] escaped a battle in December 2001 in [[Tora Bora]] and has not yet been successfully captured.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A62618-2002Apr16 U.S. Concludes [[Bin Laden]] Escaped at [[Tora Bora]] Fight], The Washington Post, 2002-04-17&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Despite the US troops' early success in removing them from power, the Taliban was regrouping and amassing funds and recruits by 2003.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0508/p01s02-wosc.html?related Taliban Appears to be Regrouped and Well-Funded], Christian Science Monitor, 2003-05-08&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 2006, offensives against the Taliban such as [[Operation Mountain Thrust]] attained limited success.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.defenselink.mil/news/NewsArticle.aspx?ID=285 World Cannot Give Up On Afghanistan, Coalition Officials Say], US Department of Defense, 2006-02-28&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Taliban remain a major threat to security in Afghanistan today, with US and allied troops working alongside the Afghan government of [[Hamid Karzai]] to combat the Taliban.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Iraq===&lt;br /&gt;
Egyptian President [[Hosni Mubarek]] and Libyan [[Socialist]] General Secretary [[Muammar Gaddafi]] in negotiations with [[Saddam Hussein]] relayed a message through Italian Prime Minister [[Silvio Berlusconi]] and Spanish President [[Jose Maria Aznar]] to UK Prime Minister [[Tony Blair]] and President Bush] that Saddam would be willing to avoid removal by force and voluntarily go into exile, provided Saddam was allowed to take $1 billion dollars and &amp;quot;all the information he wants about [[weapons of mass destruction]].&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2007/09/saddam_risked_his_life_for_wmd_1.asp Saddam Risked His Life for WMD Secrets], ''WeeklyStandard.com. September 29, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003646639 Scoop for Spanish Daily: Transcript of Private 2003 Bush Talk Promising Iraq Invasion], ''Editor &amp;amp; Publisher'', September 26, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/26/AR2007092602414.html Report Says Hussein Was Open To Exile Before 2003 Invasion], He Is Said to Have Sought $1 Billion and Information on Arms, By Karen DeYoung and Michael Abramowitz, ''[[Washington Post]], September 27, 2007; Page A17.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.elpais.com/articulo/espana/Llego/momento/deshacerse/Sadam/elpepunac/20070926elpepinac_1/Tes Llegó el momento de deshacerse de Sadam], ''El Pais'', 26/09/2007. (In Spanish).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In a show down with Congressional Democrats after taking control of the [[U.S. House of Representatives]] and [[U.S. Senate|Senate]] in the 2006 Congressional Midterm elections, Democrats retreated on their pledge to end the [[Iraq War]] early and bring the troops home.  Democrats had threatened to withhold funding for the troops unless a date certain for withdrawal was set.   After the final vote, 280-142 in the House and 80-14 in the Senate, the anti-War movement was defeated.  The deal cut with Democratic leaders in exchange for their acquiescing to fund the troops calls for the President to sign legislation raising the [[minimum wage]].  &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://washingtontimes.com/national/20070525-122215-4854r.htm Congress OKs war bill sans time-line,] By S.A. Miller, The Washington Times'', May 25, 2007. &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  One commentator remarked, &amp;quot;Despite all the talk of standing up to George W. Bush, despite all the bravado about taking control of Congress, despite the so-called mandate to change direction, Democrats caved....They claim that the majority of Americans are with them on the Iraq issue, but...President Bush, at the weakest moment of his presidency, still bested his Democratic rivals.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newmediajournal.us/staff/phyrillas/05292007.htm Democrats Show True Colors],  Tony Phyrillas, ''New Media journal'', May 29, 2007, &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Involvement in the 2008 Presidential election==&lt;br /&gt;
In March 2008, Bush endorsed his one-time rival [[John McCain]] as the Republican candidate for President of the United States. However, due to the President's declining popularity in polls, McCain appeared to distance himself from Mr. Bush on the campaign trail. At the same time, [[Democratic]] candidiate [[Barack Obama]] tried to portray a McCain presidency as four more years of George W. Bush. The President spoke by videolink at the 2008 [[Republican National Convention]], while his wife Laura appeared on stage with McCain's wife [[Cindy McCain|Cindy]].&lt;br /&gt;
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John McCain lost the election to Senator Obama, and President Bush met with the new president-elect to discuss the presidential transition between his administration and Obama's, which he promised would be efficient and without problems. George W. Bush's term ends at noon on January 20, 2009, at which point President-elect Obama will be inaugurated. In an interview with ABC's [[Charles Gibson]] in December 2008, Bush said his retirement plans included moving back to his home state of Texas and writing a book. He also wants to build an institute at the Southern Methodist University to serve as a non-partisan public policy forum, to debate issues and run volunteer projects from. &lt;br /&gt;
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== Family ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:GWBush.jpg|thumb|300px|right|President Bush admires pictures of his family in the Oval Office.]]&lt;br /&gt;
George W. Bush is the son of [[George H. W. Bush]], who served as vice-president from 1981 to 1989 and as president from 1989 to 1993, and [[Barbara Bush]]. President Bush is married to [[Laura Bush|Laura Welch Bush]], a former teacher and librarian, and they have twin daughters, Barbara and Jenna. John Ellis &amp;quot;Jeb&amp;quot; Bush, Neil Bush and Marvin Bush are his brothers. Dorothy Bush Koch is his only surviving sister, as Pauline Robinson Bush died at age four of [[leukemia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Faith==&lt;br /&gt;
George W. Bush is a member of the [[United Methodist Church]], and most people feel that George W. Bush's faith is sincere and profound. ''The Faith of George W. Bush'', a non-political book by author Stephen Strang, made the [[New York Times]] best-sellers list. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianlifemissions.org/ministries/georgewbush.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
When asked where he would be without the influence of family friend [[Billy Graham]], George W. Bush said &amp;quot;I wouldn't be president.&amp;quot; &amp;quot;It was just a conversation,&amp;quot; said the younger Bush about a talk with Graham in the mid-'80s that changed his life. During the pivotal conversation Bush recalled saying, &amp;quot;'You know, Billy, I'm longing for something.' And I know that he sent me a [[Bible]] I still have. All I can tell you is that as a result of being inspired by Billy Graham, I started reading the Bible and shortly after, I quit drinking.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Billy Graham and the White House [http://religion.beloblog.com/archives/2007/08/billy_graham_and_the_white_hou_1.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Bush's faith led him to veto a bill which would have provided for federal funding of immoral [[embryonic stem cell research]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Polls==&lt;br /&gt;
When President George W. Bush entered office, his popularity rating was near 50%.  However, after the [[September 11]] attacks, his popularity rose significantly, reaching an all-time high of 90%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/2007/07/usatgallup-po-1.html USAT Gallup Poll]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Since, then, though, it declined as some of his policies have become unpopular (largely due to the media's persistently negative -- and [[liberal bias|biased]] -- reporting on the [[Iraq War]] and misrepresentation of his policies).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Historical Bush Approval Ratings from University of Minnesota [http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm] &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In 2007, George had an approval rating of only 24%. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1624620720071017?feedType=RSS&amp;amp;feedName=topNews&amp;amp;rpc=22&amp;amp;sp=true Voters unhappy with Bush and Congress], Reuters, October 17 2007&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The same poll gave the Democratic controlled Congress an approval rating of only 11%). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews&lt;br /&gt;
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==See Also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Previous Breaking News/George W. Bush|Articles about '''George W. Bush''' from previous &amp;quot;Breaking News&amp;quot;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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