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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-13T20:25:29Z

LeoK:

: '''[[Machismo]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Being able to stand by your actions and words, not being afraid to [[debate]] against people with different ideas.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Disrespect or [[violence]] against [[women]].

: '''[[Marriage]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under [[God]].
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

: '''[[Man]]'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - Spiritual offspring of God created in His image. The oppressor of women.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Evil.

: '''[[McCarthyism]]'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after [[communism|communists]] to prevent [[deceit]] and [[treason]] in the [[government]] and [[society]]
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass or intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good [[evidence]], merely because they hold [[left-wing|leftist]] views

: '''[[meritocracy]]'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in [[life]] is decided by merit and talent (See [[Conservapedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - N/A (don't believe in merit)

: '''[[Minutemen]] (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite [[America|American]] fighters during the [[Revolutionary War]]. Possibly the first commandos.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Americans that were able to quickly be armed (within a minute) to repel [[Great Britain|British]] attacks.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend [[United States|our country]] and its values from [[Mexico|Mexican]] influence by stopping [[illegal immigration|illegals]] from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation [[evolution|evolutionists]] use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a [[fallacy]] where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:'''[[mobocracy]]'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a [[democracy|democratic]], co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''[[moral majority]]'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a [[Christian]] [[conservative]] movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a [[theocracy]] in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (W)

2011-09-13T20:24:40Z

LeoK:

: '''war crime'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - violation of war conventions, generally perpetrated by communists (See [[Obama and warcrimes]]).
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - American war efforts under [[George W. Bush]].

: '''[[welfare]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Hard working [[America|Americans]] forced to give their [[money]] to [[welfare queen|leeches]] who would rather have children out of [[marriage|wedlock]] than work.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A social "safety net."

: '''wicked'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Evil, or morally wrong
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Fun or interesting

: '''[[Wikipedia]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - an unreliable, heavily [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia|liberal-biased]] website than claims to be an [[encyclopedia]]
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a comprehensive, [[neutrality|neutral]], and flawless encyclopedia that should be used for [[research]] and to find answers

: '''[[woman]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - [[Man]]'s companion, created to be a [[Woman#Genesis|help meet for man]]. Second rate to man
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The equal to man. Sometimes spelled "womyn" by [[feminist]]s.

: '''world government'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - evil [[liberal]] idea of uniting the world under one [[atheism|atheistic]] banner (see [[Tower of Babel]]).
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a method of reducing [[war|warfare]] and promoting [[affirmative action|equality]].

: '''working class'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - [[communism|communist]] concept intended to turn workers against [[business|management]].
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The group of people who work.

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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-09T02:15:10Z

LeoK:

: '''Marriage'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under God.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

: '''Man'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - Woman's companion
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Equal to a woman

: '''McCarthyism'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after communists
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass/intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good evidence, merely for holding leftist views

: '''meritocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in life is decided by merit and talent See [[Conservapedia]]

: '''Minutemen (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite American fighters during the revolutionary war. Possibly the first commandos.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Americans that were able to quickly be armed (within a minute) to repel British attacks.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend our country and its values from Mexican influence by stopping illegals from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation evolutionist use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a fallacy where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:''' mobocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a democratic, co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''moral majority'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a Christian conservative movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a theocracy in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-09T00:30:01Z

LeoK:

: '''Marriage'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under God.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

: '''Man'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - Woman's companion
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - Equal to a woman

: '''McCarthyism'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after communists
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass/intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good evidence, merely for holding leftist views

: '''meritocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in life is decided by merit and talent See [[Conservapedia]]

: '''Minutemen (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite American fighters during the revolutionary war. Possibly the first commandos.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend our country and its values from Mexican influence by stopping illegals from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation evolutionist use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a fallacy where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:''' mobocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a democratic, co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''moral majority'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a Christian conservative movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a theocracy in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-08T22:16:13Z

LeoK:

: '''Marriage'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under God.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

: '''Man'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - Woman's companion, created to be a help meet for women.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The equal to woman.

: '''McCarthyism'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after communists
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass/intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good evidence, merely for holding leftist views

: '''meritocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in life is decided by merit and talent See [[Conservapedia]]

: '''Minutemen (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite American fighters during the revolutionary war. Possibly the first commandos.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend our country and its values from Mexican influence by stopping illegals from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation evolutionist use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a fallacy where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:''' mobocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a democratic, co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''moral majority'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a Christian conservative movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a theocracy in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-08T22:15:49Z

LeoK:

: '''Marriage'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under God.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

: '''Man'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - Women's companion, created to be a help meet for women.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The equal to women.

: '''McCarthyism'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after communists
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass/intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good evidence, merely for holding leftist views

: '''meritocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in life is decided by merit and talent See [[Conservapedia]]

: '''Minutemen (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite American fighters during the revolutionary war. Possibly the first commandos.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend our country and its values from Mexican influence by stopping illegals from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation evolutionist use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a fallacy where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:''' mobocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a democratic, co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''moral majority'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a Christian conservative movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a theocracy in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-08T22:15:24Z

LeoK:

: '''Marriage'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under God.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

: ''Man''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - Women's companion, created to be a help meet for women.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - The equal to women.

: '''McCarthyism'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after communists
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass/intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good evidence, merely for holding leftist views

: '''meritocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in life is decided by merit and talent See [[Conservapedia]]

: '''Minutemen (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite American fighters during the revolutionary war. Possibly the first commandos.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend our country and its values from Mexican influence by stopping illegals from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation evolutionist use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a fallacy where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:''' mobocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a democratic, co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''moral majority'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a Christian conservative movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a theocracy in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (M)

2011-09-08T22:14:04Z

LeoK:

: '''Marriage'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A union between one man and one woman under God.
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - A legally-binding domestic relationship between consenting adults.

Man
True conservative meaning - Women's companion, created to be a help meet for women.
False liberal redefinition - The equal to women.

: '''McCarthyism'''
:Date: 1950
:''True conservative meaning'' - going after communists
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - to harass/intimidate people and accuse them of treason without good evidence, merely for holding leftist views

: '''meritocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1958
:''True conservative meaning'' - A system where a person's place in life is decided by merit and talent See [[Conservapedia]]

: '''Minutemen (historic)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of elite American fighters during the revolutionary war. Possibly the first commandos.

: '''Minutemen (present)'''
: ''True conservative meaning'' - A group of volunteers who valiantly defend our country and its values from Mexican influence by stopping illegals from crossing the border.
:'' False liberal redefinition'' - Crazy, violent vigilantes.

: '''moving the goalposts'''
:Date: late 1980s
:''True conservative meaning'' - accusation evolutionist use to avoid answering questions
: ''False liberal redefinition'' - a fallacy where agreed upon conditions for determining an argument are arbitrarily changed after the conditions have been met

:''' mobocracy'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1754
:''True conservative meaning'' - rule by mob (see [[Wikipedia]])
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a democratic, co-operative, participatory and anti-hierarchical system

: '''moral majority'''
:[[Essay:Best New Conservative Words|Conservative word]]
:Date: 1979
:''True conservative meaning'' - a Christian conservative movement
:''False liberal redefinition'' - a far-right, religious fanatic organization that wishes to establish a theocracy in the United States

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Conservative Dictionary Project (A)

2011-09-07T22:25:33Z

LeoK:

:'''[[Abstinence]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Choosing to remain true to one's values and refraining from sexual behaviour until marriage
:''False liberal redefinition''- Denying one's true impulses

:'''[[Acid rain]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Possibly true idea that pollution returns to earth in the harmful rain.
:''False liberal redefinition''- An excuse to stifle industry with government regulation.

:'''[[Ad Hominem]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A debate tactic where the opponent is attacked instead of their ideas, frequently used by foolish liberals.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Accurately pointing out that someone is not qualified or informed enough to give a relevant opinion, sometimes used by conservatives and objected to by liberals.

:'''[[Affirmative Action]]'''
:Date: 20th century
:''True conservative meaning'' - Reverse discrimination.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - A way of helping minorities.

:'''[[Altruism]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Self sacrifice in the model of Jesus.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - No definition (Liberals frequently argue that altruism doesn't exist.)

:'''[[Amendment]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - An alteration to a bill or constitution.

:'''[[American Exceptionalism]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - The belief that The United States is a Christian nation, a force for good, and unique in the history of the world.

:'''[[Anarchist]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Far left extremists who use terrorism to promote the failed concept of communism.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Someone who supports the [[free market]].

:'''[[Animal]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - One of the creatures of the land, earth, and sea given to man to have dominion over.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Simply a scientific term for one of the kingdoms of life, a definition which does not lift humans above others.

:'''[[Atheism]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Denial of God's existence, a discredited and failing liberal worldview known to cause mass murder, immorality, uncharitableness, obesity and other negative consequences.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Lack of belief of a deity

:'''[[Autocracy]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - The rule of a single person with unlimited authority. This is the system liberals want.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Dictatorship of the proletariat.

:'''[[Axis of Evil]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A group of countries who are sworn enemies of the US: [[North Korea]], [[Iran]], [[Venezuela]], [[Cuba]]
:''False liberal redefinition'' - A term made up by [[George W. Bush]] to get support to go to war.
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2011-09-07T22:25:00Z

LeoK: real liberal defintion, they simply claim a lack of belief and do not refer it as a religion

:'''[[Abstinence]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Choosing to remain true to one's values and refraining from sexual behaviour until marriage
:''False liberal redefinition''- Denying one's true impulses

:'''[[Acid rain]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Possibly true idea that pollution returns to earth in the harmful rain.
:''False liberal redefinition''- An excuse to stifle industry with government regulation.

:'''[[Ad Hominem]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A debate tactic where the opponent is attacked instead of their ideas, frequently used by foolish liberals.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Accurately pointing out that someone is not qualified or informed enough to give a relevant opinion, sometimes used by conservatives and objected to by liberals.

:'''[[Affirmative Action]]'''
:Date: 20th century
:''True conservative meaning'' - Reverse discrimination.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - A way of helping minorities.

:'''[[Altruism]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Self sacrifice in the model of Jesus.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - No definition (Liberals frequently argue that altruism doesn't exist.)

:'''[[Amendment]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - An alteration to a bill or constitution.

:'''[[American Exceptionalism]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - The belief that The United States is a Christian nation, a force for good, and unique in the history of the world.

:'''[[Anarchist]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Far left extremists who use terrorism to promote the failed concept of communism.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Someone who supports the [[free market]].

:'''[[Animal]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - One of the creatures of the land, earth, and sea given to man to have dominion over.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Simply a scientific term for one of the kingdoms of life, a definition which does not lift humans above others.

:'''[[Atheism]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - Denial of God's existence, a discredited and failing liberal worldview known to cause mass murder, immorality, uncharitableness, obesity and other negative consequences.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - lack of belief of a deity

:'''[[Autocracy]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - The rule of a single person with unlimited authority. This is the system liberals want.
:''False liberal redefinition'' - Dictatorship of the proletariat.

:'''[[Axis of Evil]]'''
:''True conservative meaning'' - A group of countries who are sworn enemies of the US: [[North Korea]], [[Iran]], [[Venezuela]], [[Cuba]]
:''False liberal redefinition'' - A term made up by [[George W. Bush]] to get support to go to war.
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Talk:Tropical Storm Irene

2011-09-07T02:00:54Z

LeoK:

==Moving article==

It should still be titled "Hurricane Irene", as any storm that reaches Hurricane status is called a hurricane for eternity. It will go down as Hurricane Irene, in the same way that every hurricane is recorded as a hurricane, not the tropical storm all hurricanes eventually dissipate to. By this logic, shouldn't we refer to any former President as "Ex-President" in all cases, even though convention tells us to formally refer to them as "President"? [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 09:45, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Yes - storms that reach hurricane statis keep that reference forever. We still call Andrew and Katrina hurricanes even though they eventually downgraded and petered out. The name "Irene" has been used before - I don't know if it will be retired this time or not. It depends on the death toll/damages, I believe. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 09:56, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::Seeing as all hurricanes begin and end as tropical storms, should we change the name of any other articles on hurricanes for the sake of consistency? [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 09:57, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::The name shouldn't be changed because it doesn't make sense to change the names. Once a storm becomes a hurricane it is referred to as a hurricane forever. [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 10:00, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::That's not what Aschlafly thinks, and it's his website. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 10:01, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::That is true. [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 10:03, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
I know Wikipedia uses the convention of "Hurricane X (Year)" for names that have been used multiple times...if more hurricane articles are created this naming convetion would make sense to use. [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 09:58, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

In this case, "Irene" became a "tropical storm" before reaching the major city, so that should be its name. That was not true for Hurricane Katrina.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:51, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Does Norfolk not count as a major city? It went right over top of us. --[[User:LeoK|LeoK]] 21:51, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
I also like that the references all refer to it as a Hurricane --[[User:LeoK|LeoK]] 22:00, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:Once a storm reaches hurricane classification, it is a hurricane in perpetuity. No way around it. The article should be renamed "Hurricane Irene". [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 15:53, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

It first made landfall on the United States mainland in North Carolina as a hurricane. New York is not the only place it hit. The storm should be called a hurricane. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 19:38, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Talk:Tropical Storm Irene

2011-09-07T01:51:54Z

LeoK: /* Moving article */

==Moving article==

It should still be titled "Hurricane Irene", as any storm that reaches Hurricane status is called a hurricane for eternity. It will go down as Hurricane Irene, in the same way that every hurricane is recorded as a hurricane, not the tropical storm all hurricanes eventually dissipate to. By this logic, shouldn't we refer to any former President as "Ex-President" in all cases, even though convention tells us to formally refer to them as "President"? [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 09:45, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:Yes - storms that reach hurricane statis keep that reference forever. We still call Andrew and Katrina hurricanes even though they eventually downgraded and petered out. The name "Irene" has been used before - I don't know if it will be retired this time or not. It depends on the death toll/damages, I believe. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 09:56, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::Seeing as all hurricanes begin and end as tropical storms, should we change the name of any other articles on hurricanes for the sake of consistency? [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 09:57, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::The name shouldn't be changed because it doesn't make sense to change the names. Once a storm becomes a hurricane it is referred to as a hurricane forever. [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 10:00, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
:::::That's not what Aschlafly thinks, and it's his website. [[User:BrentH|BrentH]] 10:01, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
::::::That is true. [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 10:03, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
I know Wikipedia uses the convention of "Hurricane X (Year)" for names that have been used multiple times...if more hurricane articles are created this naming convetion would make sense to use. [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 09:58, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

In this case, "Irene" became a "tropical storm" before reaching the major city, so that should be its name. That was not true for Hurricane Katrina.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 15:51, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

Does Norfolk not count as a major city? It went right over top of us. --[[User:LeoK|LeoK]] 21:51, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

:Once a storm reaches hurricane classification, it is a hurricane in perpetuity. No way around it. The article should be renamed "Hurricane Irene". [[User:AaronL|AaronL]] 15:53, 28 August 2011 (EDT)

It first made landfall on the United States mainland in North Carolina as a hurricane. New York is not the only place it hit. The storm should be called a hurricane. --[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 19:38, 28 August 2011 (EDT)