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Debate:Should Conservapedia change it's logo?

2013-06-06T14:41:35Z

KeironA: Created page with "==Time for Conservapedia to change it's logo== As a Brit, I feel it does partially alienate myself even though I admire the USA's conservatism and this webpage. But I do believe..."

==Time for Conservapedia to change it's logo==

As a Brit, I feel it does partially alienate myself even though I admire the USA's conservatism and this webpage. But I do believe that changing it would bring in more genuine conservatives like myself from all over the world plus it would play a bigger role to other countries and not just America. I think a new logo could look something like a map of the world with a conservative motto or somewhere along them lines whereby conservatives from all over the world would feel more welcome and use this page to influence conservatism in their countries.

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2013-06-06T14:35:57Z

KeironA: /* Debates about Conservapedia */

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# [[Debate:Should the United States begin Colonizing Space?]]

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===Wikis===
# [[Debate:Can Conservapedia become the next Wikipedia, is this good or bad]]
# [[Debate:Does bias impair Wikipedia's reliability?]]
# [[Debate:Does an encyclopedia define complex subjects, or insert more bias into them?]]
# [[Debate:Does altering the record of debate in a wiki 'Encyclopedia' render the entire thing a farce?]]
# [[Debate:Can/May/Should online wiki encyclopedias copy from each other?]]
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# [[Debate:What is CP's position on Relativity? (and, in general, on physical sciences)]]
# [[Debate:Is Conservapedia representing a conservative POV or a Young Earth Creationist POV?]]
# [[Debate:The liberal quotient of Conservapedia; what is it? Does it matter?]]
# [[Debate:How should Conservapedia work to avoid having a conservative bias?]]
# [[Debate:How can we protect Conservapedia by distinguishing real conservative encyclopedia articles from satires written by liberals?]]
# [[Debate:Is it tasteless for Conservapedia to critique the Virginia Tech poem on the Main Page?]]
# [[Debate:Should Conservapedia be more open about sex related articles?]]
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# [[Debate:What exactly is Conservapedia?]]
# [[Debate:Is it okay for Conservapedia to have biased articles?]]
# [[Debate:Is Conservapedia a 'Trustworthy Encyclopedia'?]]
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# [[Debate:Has anyone ever been been banned for pointing out that many of the other entries on this site are in need of citation and evidence to back up statements?]]
# [[Debate:Do sysops block editing on pages when it seems their opponents are making strong points?]]
# [[Debate:Does Conservapedia censor opponents the way Expelled says ID advocates are censored?]]
# [[Debate:The 90/10 rule exists soley to squash debate, and should be eliminated]]
===Other===
# [[Debate:Should the term list entries be included in Conservapedia's entry count?]]
# [[Debate:Where do you personally look for facts and information on topics "When did Brahms live" or "Why did Monet paint grainstacks?"]]
# [[Debate:Is Conservapedia blinkered?|Is Conservapedia blinkered?]]
# [[Debate:Is the Conservapedia Logo in violation of US Flag Code?]]
# [[Debate:Should the Conservapedia logo be changed?]]
# [[Debate:Is it time to propagate Conservapedia in other languages/countries?]]
# [[Debate:Should there be a separate section on the main page for blogs, advertisements and other non-news items?]]
# [[Debate:Should Conservapedia change it's logo?]]

==Media==
===Media Bias===
# [[Debate:Does the media really have a liberal bias?]]
# [[Debate:Propaganda in childrens' television]]
===Decency Standards===
# [[Debate: To what extent should we have obscenity laws]]
# [[Debate: Should certain books be banned from libraries?]]
# [[Debate:Does modern music negatively influence children]]
# [[Debate:Is Anime and Manga Ok?]]
===Music===
# [[Debate:Is Rap music torture?]]
# [[Debate:What Is Music?]]
===Other===
# [[Debate:Was the media attention needed?]]
# [[Debate:Is the use of copyrighted photographs without permission stealing?]]

==Funny, maybe?==
# [[Debate:Was the shooting at Virginia Tech somehow President Bush's fault?]]
# [[Debate:Are video games getting better or worse as graphics, sound, and gameplay complexity improve?]]
# [[Debate:Favorite old time radio show]]

==Other==
# [[Debate:What are the lessons that we should take away from the Milgram Experiment]]
# [[Debate:Mall Shootings]]

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Debate:Has Britain Declined?

2013-06-06T14:29:39Z

KeironA:

==No==

The British Empire and it's political influence have declined since the beginning of the 20th century, this is true, and is not a bad thing for the British people or the rest of the world.
Since the largely peaceful dissolution of the empire, after the end of WWII the lives of ordinary working class British people have improved greatly. My grandmother was born in to abject poverty in the Nottingham inner city in the 1920's, they had little food and no furniture. This is what imperialism and a rigid class system without social benefits did for the British. Thanks to [[Clement Atlee]]'s [[welfare state]] however, no-one lives like this in Britain any more. We have one of the best standards of living in the world, and Britain, along with the rest of western europe, is without doubt one of the best places to live.
Sorry, but I fail to see where the 'decline' is. --[[User:Eyupdutch|Eyupdutch]] 10:37, 26 June 2007 (EDT)

That is all entirely true. Britain has not declined in any political or social aspect. I suspect what the person who wrote that news piece means is that Britain has declined morally, with their acceptance of evolution and all. That is opinion, and somehow not very befitting an website which fancies itself as an encyclopedia. [[User:Argonaut|Argonaut]] 18:35, 30 June 2007 (EDT)

With the exception of the idiotic observation about the 'acceptance of evolution' above, I agree. The acceptance of evolution is a sign of intelligence, not of moral anything. The notion that Britain has 'declined' suggests a monstrous presupposition, that Britain was once great. Britain became great in 1948 with the introduction of the National Health Service, the Nationalisation of the Railways the Coal Mines and the major industries all of which took the working people of Great Britain forward into a world immensely richer and freer than that of their forefathers. This work by the Attlee govn was a major, practical step towards socialism, and should be being celebrated and analysed in a positive way, not knocked in sly, leading questions by stupid, right-wing pretend-encyclopedias such as this.

chris larner

Britain hasn't declined. It has simply been overshadowed by the United States, currently the world's most powerful state. And I'm sure, in time, the USA will in turn be overshadowed by another upstart superpower. The good ol' People's Republic, for instance. All hail Chairman Mao!

Britain has its problems (Yob culture, binge drinking, lack of respect, obesity, teenage pregnancy, overcrowding, etc. ) but what country doesn't? I think that Britain's problems are exaggerated in the press and that also a lot of things have improved greatly in the last 50 years. Britain has managed to become one of the wealthiest (per capita) nations in the world, with a high standard of living and education, with low levels of corruption (when compared to the rest of the world), a strong economy, and personal freedoms not enjoyed by 95% of the world's population.

May I just say, the British are awesome (ok, maybe their teeth and food are a bit dodgy...)! They have been overshadowed by American but still...they're British. And who can resist the accent?? They have James Bond, Robin Hood, the Beatles... the list is endless! [[User:AShep|AShep]] 21:22, 22 June 2011 (EDT)

==Yes==

In terms of being a world power-broker yes, Britain has declined. Entering the 20th century the British Empire was the largest power in the world with an empire reaching across the globe. The first half of the century saw Britain's lack of real miltary strength exposed, being unable to overcome Germany and the Ottoman Empire in WWI, the Irish War of Independance in the early 20's and the Second World War which was won through the endevours of the US and the USSR. The Statute of Westminster of 1931 saw Britain effectively give up its place at the head of the Empire, becoming equal with other members of the Commonwealth.

Economicaly speaking, Britain has been in decline ,in my opinion, since 1973. Obviously the 70's saw the end of a "Golden Age" of Western Europe (which had been kickstarted by Marshall Aid and cheap energy from Arabian Oil) and Britain was not immune. While the 1980's and 90's saw recovery, this recovery was built on debt, both public and private. While Thatcher did bring about much needed economic reform, she also went a long way toward creating the "credit culture" we see in the UK today. All of a sudden debt was o.k. and now we are reeping the consequences.

Britain is also far more susceptible to the global market than it was up until the 1980's. Most good sold in Britain are produced abroad and there is very little primary production compared to rates around the middle part of the last century.

Britain is probably the third most important nation in Europe, but it now lags a long way behing France and Germany in my estimation. [[Pukeynut]]

==FUNNY FUNNY TRUTH==
The funny truth about the piltdown man was it was the result of nationalism. It was fabricated as a response to a REAL discovery in Germany of the skeletons of the Neanderthal man. It's funny I don't see those IDERs/creationists mentioning that part of history.
[[User:Intranetusa|Intranetusa]] 14:27, 16 March 2008 (EDT)

==Britain has declined because of these reasons==

1 - Lack of willpower and confidence

2 - Not knowing right from wrong

3 - Endorsing Liberalism and Socialism

4 - Persecuting Christians and Christianity even though our Magna Carta and principles used Christianity to define our once great country

5 - Letting the EU overrule us

6 - Weak government

7 - Soft justices for unspeakable crimes

8 - Evolutionary thinking and teaching

9 - Seeking false gods to justify their behaviour including evolution

10 - The mainstream (or lamestream media) influencing our political system

11 - Lack of integrity or direction

12 - No creativity in the jobs market

As for intranetusa, I don't know where you got your so called fact from, but I can assure you that there are plenty of us who don't believe a word in any of your statement.
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United Kingdom Independence Party

2013-06-06T14:09:17Z

KeironA:

[[File:Farage.jpg|thumb|200px|Prominent UKIP MEP, Nigel Farage, wants to take Britain out of the [[EU]] and subject immigration to legal controls]]

The '''United Kingdom Independence Party''', also known by the acronym '''UKIP''', is a British political party. Founded in 1993, it campaigns for [[British]] withdrawal from the [[European Union]] (EU). Its support-base is made up substantially of social conservative, traditional conservative and libertarian voters who are opposed to the surrender of British sovereignty. The current leader of UKIP is Nigel Farage.
UKIP is the fastest-growing British political party. It currently has 29,000 members according to a statement made on the party's facebook page.

In the 2008 European elections UKIP came second. with 16.5% of the vote and 13 of the UK's 78 seats in the [[European Parliament]]. In the Parliamentary election of May 6th 2010, UKIP got 3.1% of the vote, a total of 917,232, an increase of 50% on the previous parliamentary election vote. However, owing to the electoral system, they still did not receive any MPs. This makes them the largest unrepresented party in the UK. UKIP has 2 members in the [[House of Lords]].

Under the leadership of Nigel Farage, UKIP broadened its political agenda. It now has policies on tax, defence, the health service, education, electoral reform and constitutional reform.

UKIP attracts alienated voters especially on the right who are critical of the centralized and undemocratic structure of the [[EU]]. UKIP has endorsed a British centre-right economic agenda. It proposes a flat tax and opposes national identity cards. It is sceptical of the more extreme claims of AGW and critical of carbon-permits and other [[EU]] environmental policies as economically and environmentally harmful.<ref>http://www.ukip.org/page/ukip-manifesto</ref>

UKIP is frequently accused of being a racist party and associated with racist parties in the media. However, UKIP membership is open to all regardless of ethnic origin and in the 2010 election UKIP fielded a significant number of candidates who are members of ethnic minorities. <ref>http://www.manzoor4mep.co.uk/</ref><ref>http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/politics/election_2010/southampton_test/candidates/7984351.Pearline_Hingston__UKIP__Southampton_Test/</ref><ref>http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/guide/seat-profiles/tottenham</ref>

In 2013, UKIP achieved a milestone in the local elections when 147 councillors were elected across the UK adding to the 50-60 councillors that were already in place. This has prompted reaction from the Conservative Party, Labour and Liberal Democrats who believe that this was a protest vote and that UKIP would not go far in the next General Election.

==Further reading==
* Daniel, Mark. ''Cranks and Gadflies: The Story of UKIP'' (2005) 199pp [http://books.google.com/books?id=My7bPb1XnVIC excerpt and text search]
* Margetts, H. et al. "Latent Support for the Far-Right in British Politics: The BNP and UKIP in the 2004 European and London Elections" (2004) scholarly paper [http://www.ipeg.org.uk/papers/latentsupport210405b.pdf online edition]

==References==
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==External links==
* [http://www.ukip.org/ UKIP - official website]

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