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Tarot

2009-09-14T18:07:59Z

Jpadilla: tarot intended for games

'''Tarot''' (''tarocchi, tarock'') is a deck of seventy-eight cards divided into twenty-two major arcana or Trumps, and four suits of minor arcana, composed of ten pip cards and four court cards for each suit.
The Tarot was originally intended for playing trick taking card games which are enjoyed today in continental Europe. Tarot cards would not be used for divination until the 18th century. The art of [[divination]], reading or fortune-telling with playing cards is known as Cartomancy. The images of tarot are often based on images and scenery of life and nature, spirituality, occult, and religious themes.

== Early Tarot Decks==
The Arabic game of Tarot migrated into Europe through the invasion of Africa, Spain and Sicily by the Islamic and Persian Malamuk army. These early card games of the Malamuk were called Naibi, a gambling card game which made reference to the Knight and Court cards. These early hand painted cards had four suits, known as the coins, the cups, the staves, and the swords, along with court suit cards.

Evidence for the existence of tarot in Europe can be found as far back as the 14th century, where it was used as a game for gambling and card playing. One of the earliest records about tarot on record was found in Bohemia in 1354 C.E. created by the artist Jonathan Kraysel, and the 1423 hand painted deck from Ferrara Italy. In Italy, the card game was known as ''carte da Trionfi'', cards of Triumphs, or Trumps. The Trifoni deck was known to have existed in 1442 as a 70-card game played by the nobles of Italy.

Hand Painted decks were purchased and used by royalty throughout medieval Europe. More common decks were available to the public when they were created by more economical means like block printing. The first decks which were printed on a press are recorded in documents found from Ferrara Italy in 1436. These cards were also commonly used in gambling games. The prohibition of tarot was an attempt by the church to incite morality, and in some cases, to collect money from fines by people who played tarot games.

====The Sola Busca Tarot====
The Sola-Busca is the oldest surviving set of seventy-eight cards, dating from 1491. These cards were engraved and hand painted in Ferrara Italy, and sold in the markets of Venice. The complete deck which is owned by the Sola-busca family survives only from photographs taken in 1907, kept in a private collection in Milan, Italy.

The Sola-Busca cards were painted with scenery and mythology which were popular at the time. They were symbolic, representing social, philosophical, religious and mythological themes. One style of Busca deck recorded by the poet Boiardo in 1461 describes the tarot imagery represented by the Greek gods.

====Cary Yale Visconti====
The oldest deck in existence is the The Cary-Yale Visconti Tarot. This deck, from the 15th century, was created for the Visconti-Sforza family, rulers of Milan. There are only sixty seven cards left of the original deck. The Visconti deck contains six court cards per suit, unlike the traditional system of tarot that decks use today.

These cards are the King, The Queen, The Male Knight, The Female Knight, the Male Valet and the Female Valet. Some have theorized that this deck was created before the seventy-eight deck system was used, or that originally there were only sixteen trumps in the deck. The themes of this deck, like many other deck of the time were influenced by christian theology and painted with images of medieval life and royalty. The major arcana had cards which depicted images of the Three Christian Virtues, Faith, Hope and Charity.

====Tarot de Marseille====

The Tarot of Marseille is a deck that originated in Italy, which gained popularity in France and Switzerland by 1499. This deck, sometimes called the Milan pattern, and it was inspired by medieval religious art. The Marseille pattern was re-introduced to northern Italy by the 17th century, and by then the Marseille deck design was considered to be the standard for tarot. The cards were typically produced by woodcut printing and they were hand colored or painted with stencils.

The traditional Marseille tarot is fifty-six cards. There are four suits in the ''Minor Arcana'' numbering from one to ten, the Batons, Swords, Cups, and the Coins. Each suit contains four court cards, ''The Royal Arcana'': The Valet, Cavalier, the Queen and the King. Included with this is the fool card which was sometimes numbered as zero or twenty-two, or left un-numbered in some variants of the Marseille deck. The Tarot of Marseille was painted with imagery like the Pope, the [[Satan|Devil]] and the Last Judgment, themes from the Christian Bible. A controversial image in the Marseille deck is the Popess card, which some say could represent an image of Pope Joan.

==The Occult Tarot==

====Antoine Court De Gébelin====

Tarot was not generally used for divination until the late 18th century, when Antoine Court De Gébelin wrote about the origins of Tarot. De Gébelin was the son of a protestant minister from Switzerland. A patron of the arts and Sciences, De Gébelin was also a member of an esoteric order, the Philalèthes, a Freemason order with ties to the Elect Cohens. He was ordained as a Protestant pastor in 1754. De Gébelin traveled to France in 1762 where he undertook the work of writing and working as a protestant apologist in Paris for several years.

De Gébelin first encountered the tarot in 1781 in Switzerland, where he connected the imagery of the tarot to occult concepts. De Gébelin's book, titled ''Le Monde Primitif, 1781'' made the claim that the tarot had an occult origin. He claimed that the twenty-two arcana were similar to the twenty-two letters of the Hebrew alphabet. He claimed that the tarot was an allegorical story that should be read from the twenty-second card, the world, to the first card which was known as madness [the fool]. He renamed the Popess card as the High Priestess and he renamed the pope card as the Heirophant. Court De Gébelin also modified the tarot by reversing the hanged man image of the tarot, so that the image represented Prudence, instead of sacrifice.

De Gébelin wrote that the tarot had its origin in the lands of Egypt, where gypsies cultivated the use of tarot for divination and oracles. Historians dispute this because the occurrence of early christian medieval imagery in tarot disproves this theory. De Gébelin's occult background allowed him to create the esoteric and mystical symbolism that tarot uses to this day.

====Jean-Baptiste Alliette====
Jean-Baptiste Alliette [Etteilla] is given credit for making the occult tarot popular. Etteilla published information on tarot divination and ascribed elemental and planetary attributes to the tarot. He also used astrological and elemental associations for his cards. Working from the theories of De Gébelin, he created a deck made for divination in 1788. Ettilla is credited for the revival of occult tarot and for preserving the tarot history and theory of De Gébelin.

From the knowledge of De Gébelin's esoteric writings, Etteilla wrote a book in 1783 titled ''Maniere de se récréer avec le jeu de cartes'' [''trans. Manner of recreation with a game of cards named Tarots'']. This was the first time that a tarot deck was published along with an accompanying book. This same deck created by Etteilla is still used today for divination.

Etteilla's system of tarot was developed from the traditional game decks known as the piquet deck, a shortened version which used hearts, clubs spades and diamonds. Along with this he added the ''Etteilla'' card, and he added upright and reversal meanings to the cards. Etteilla also published a deck, the ''Petit Etteilla'' which was based on the same system of occult divination. The tarot of Etteilla had twenty-two major arcana and fifty-six minor arcana. From the inspiration of De Gébelin, Etteilla had reordered the Major Arcana or Trumps, and added his own images and scenery.

====[[Eliphas Levi]] and the Tarot====

The French occultist and writer Alphonse Louise Constant [1810], [Eliphas Levi, psuedonym] influenced occult revivalists of the 19th century like Crowley and Waite. Eliphas Levi had never created his own deck, but his perceptions on the origins and meaning of the tarot had influenced modern systems of tarot. By 1853, Levi was working as a journalist and giving lessons in occult theories. He adopted the name Eliphas Levi from a Hebrew translation of his own name. He attended a seminary in Paris where he trained to be a priest. While at the St. Sulpice seminary, he learned about the Devil, animal magnetism and energies, which lead to his study of the occult.

Levi traveled to England in 1854, where he met the Rosicrucian author Baron Edward Bulwer-Lytton. Lytton was known for his writings on occult, mesmerism, astrology, clairvoyance and magic. Levi formed a partnership with him and this launched his career as an occult writer. he published the book, Dogme et Rituel de la Haute Magie in 1855 [Eliphas Levi's Transcendental Magic Its Doctrine and Ritual], which was translated and annotated by Arthur Edward Waite

In this book he criticized the Etteilla method of Tarot, claiming that it was incorrectly made, claiming that "''The writings of Etteilla, now very rare, are obscure, wearisome and barbarous in style''". Levi reversed the order of the tarot as it had been known to Etteilla and the earlier De Gébelin which was designed to be ordered and read from the twenty-first card to the zero, or fool.

====Papus Tarot====
Occult tarot was influenced by Gerard Encausse [pseudonym, Papus, 1865]. The name Papus, inspired by Eliphas Levi's Apollynus Of Tyanna, means Physician. Papus was a physician and a hypnotist. He was a French occultist who studied the work of Eliphas Levi, Kabbalism, alchemy and magic. Papus was a member of Madame Blavatsky's French Theosophical Society in 1884 until he left the Society one year later. Papus was an outspoken member and activist in the occult community. He joined the Ahathoor Temple of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn in Paris. In 1888 he created his own occult order, The Kabbalistic order of the [[The Rosicrucians]]. He was also the founder of the Martinist Order, a method of esoteric Christianity.

Papus wrote a book about his system of tarot, ''The tarot of the Bohemians''. In his book he connects the different theories of occultism, such as the Kabbalistic association and astrology into one system. The theory of Papus about the origins of tarot were inspired by writers who developed their ideas from authors like Court De Gébelin and Levi, who claimed that Tarot had its origins in Egypt, the [[Romany Witchcraft|Romany]] Bohemians, the origin of the Gypsy Tarot theory. The system of Papus tarot assigned the Fool card to the Hebrew letter Shin [the element of fire], and he places this card in the deck as the twenty first card, even though it remained un-numbered in the deck.

====Golden Dawn Tarot====
The golden dawn tarot is based on the teachings of the [[Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn]]. This was Rosicrucian Freemason order which was founded by Dr. William Westcott, Dr. William Woodman, and S. MacGregor Mathers. The teachings of the golden dawn are based on the document known as the Cypher Manuscript.

The tarot manual of the Golden dawn written by MacGregor Mathers, Harriet Felkin titled ''Book T'' was a document that was originally circulated among private members of the Golden Dawn for instruction on tarot. This book influenced other golden dawn based decks. Book T is a manual that includes descriptions of the tarot, along with the astrological, qabalistic, elemental and spiritual attributes. The golden dawn method of esoteric tarot was based the seven planets, on associations with the Hebrew letters, and the tree of life from kabalah. The major arcana is positioned on the Sephira and paths in the tree of life through symbolic association.

The original Golden Dawn Tarot was created by Richard Dudschus and David Sledzinski under the guidance of Pat Zalewski The Classic Golden Dawn Tarot deck is a re-creation of the original Tarot used by the Golden Dawn order. There are only 1200 which were printed, uncolored for the instruction of tarot. This deck inspired other Golden Dawn style decks by other authors, such as the Thoth Deck and the Waite-Smith deck, the BOTA deck and many more.

One version of the Golden dawn Tarot was created by Robert Wang, and Israel Regardie. is the New Golden dawn Magical tarot [formerly, the New Golden dawn ritual tarot] This deck includes Hebrew and astrological associations which were created by the golden dawn. In this deck are two temperance cards, and the court cards are the King, Queen, Prince and Princess

====Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot====
The Rider-Waite-Smith deck is one of the most popular occult and divinatory decks available. It was created in 1909 by William Rider and Son, in London. The creators of this deck, Pamela Coleman Smith, and Aurthur Edward Waite were both members of the esoteric order of the Golden Dawn. The accompanying book ''The pictorial Key to the Tarot'' was published in 1911.

The designs for the RWS deck were based on the Sola-Busca tarot, Eliphas Levi and other decks throughout history. There are seventy-eight cards in this deck, with scenery in all of the cards except for the Aces. The Rider-Waite-Smith court royals use a classical system of King queen knight and page.

====Cartomancy====
In Cartomancy the querant is the one that the tarotist reads for. The quereant either chooses the cards, or the cards are chosen by the reader. The cards are laid out into a spread, and read in succession. The layout of the cards in the spread often form a panoramic scene for the tarotist to read.

Another method is to choose a Significator card for the querant before reading, and to use this card as a focus during the reading to represent the querant. The Significator card is a card is a major arcana card, or a court card which is chosen from the deck that represents the quereant. This significator card is sometimes chosen based on calculations of birth numerology or based on the astrological sign of the querant. The numerology of the cards which are chosen are also used for divination.

====Tarot Arcana====
The standard modern arrangement for most modern tarot decks is twenty two trumps, sixteen court cards and forty pips, or Minor Arcana creating the whole seventy eight card deck. The specific ordering of the Major Arcana can vary between decks, such as the Crowley Thoth deck which switches the Emperor Card with the Star Card, and the Golden Dawn Tarot which applies a switch between Justice and Temperance.

The Minor Arcana are known as the pips. The forty pips in a standard deck are classifed according to classical elemental associations known as suits. The suit of wands is represented by the element of Fire, the suit of Cups, is represented by water, the suit of swords is Air, and the suit of coins, or pentacles is Earth. They number one to ten, and the first card of each suit are known as Aces. These associations were inspired by the tarrocchi suits of hearts which are the cups, spades are the swords, clubs are the wands, and the Coins, are the pentacles

The Court Royals can vary in different decks. The standard for Court Royal arrangements, such as the Rider-Waite-Smith, is the King, Queen, Page and knight. The Crowley Thoth court Royal arrangement is the Knight, Queen, Prince and Princess. The court cards of the thoth deck are given elementary attributes, except for the princess cards are given a planetary instead of an elementary association.

== Tarot as a Card Game ==

Current research in Tarot history shows that the European Tarot card games were influenced by Arabic and China card games which migrated into Europe during the medieval era.

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the "[[Major Arcana]]", which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.
*In many regional variants a shortened deck of 62 or 54 cards is used.
==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

=References=
====Links====
*[http://trionfi.com/0/p/06/#a Trionfi.com] Early Tarot References, The history and origin of Tarot as a Card game
*[http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/faq.htm Tarot FAQ] History of the Rider Waite Smith Deck and the Pictorial Key to the Tarot
*[http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/visconti/ Visconti Tarot] Restoration of the Visconti Tarot
*[http://www.geocities.com/cartedatrionfi/Fragments/SolaBusca.html Sola-Busca Tarot] Detailed site on the history of the Sola-Busca deck, the oldest complete deck in existence
*[http://www.villarevak.org/bio/gebelin_1.html Antoine Court De Gébelin] History and Time line of De Gébelin and the Occult Tarot
*[http://www.villarevak.org/bio/etteilla_1.html Etteilla] Etteilla The First Professional Tarotist, a biography
*[http://www.villarevak.org/astro/main.html Astrological Correspondence of the Tarot] Etteilla System of Astrological Tarot
*[http://supertarot.co.uk/thoth/papus.htm Papus] The influence of Papus on the Major Arcana
*[http://www.tarot-decks.com/eliphas-levi-tarot.html Eliphas Levi] Transcendental Magic excerpt, Eliphas Levi On the Tarot
*[http://www.lelandra.com/comptarot/tarotthothclone.htm Thelemic Tarot] Comparison of Thelemic Tarot Decks
*[http://www.aeclectic.net/tarot/cards/golden-dawn-magical/ Golden Dawn]The Golden Dawn Magickal Tarot Images
*[http://www.tarot.org.il/Library/Mathers/Book-T.html Book T] Golden Dawn, Book T MacGregor Mathers, Harriet Felkin
*[http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/xr/index.htm Rider-Waite-Smith] Tarot Card Cross-reference for the Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot Deck
====Books====
*A Wicked Pack of Cards by Decker, DePaulis, & Dummett [1996, Decker]
*The Complete Book of Tarot Reversals, Mary K. Greer [2004, Llewellyn]
*[http://gabriele74.monrif.net/tarotbooks/maniere.PDF Etteilla] (1785). Etteilla, ou manière de se récréer avec un jeu de cartes [Etteilla, Or a Way to Entertain Yourself With a Deck of Cards].
*[http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/tob/index.htm Tarot of the Bohemians] The Tarot of the Bohemians By Papus [Gérard Encausse, (b. 1865 d. 1916)] Translated by A. P Morton [1892]
*[http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/pkt/index.htm Waite, PKT] The Pictorial Key to the Tarot Arthur Edward Waite, Illustrations By Pamela Colman Smith [1911]
*[http://www.pagat.com/tarot/ Tarot card games]
*[http://i-p-c-s.org/history.html Tarot and playing card history]
*[http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21777.html Conservative Voice "What is Tarot?"]
*[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/118281/a_seldom_reported_truth_about_tarot.html "A Seldom Reported Truth about Tarot Cards"]
*[http://hem1.passagen.se/bernvill/tarot.htm Bo Bernvill on how Tarot became occult]

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Talk:Tarot

2009-06-02T19:17:32Z

Jpadilla:

I'm adding some information on the occult history of the Tarot. [[User:BlueSkies|BlueSkies]] 19:40, 2 December 2008 (EST)

After re-structuring this page i want to say that there is a real and true history to tarot, despite what some religionists and conservatives want to believe. [[User:BlueSkies|BlueSkies]] 20:04, 2 December 2008 (EST)

Tarot cards are not Arabic in origin. The evidence points to northern Italy as their place of origin[[User:Jpadilla|Jpadilla]] 15:17, 2 June 2009 (EDT)

Burke

2007-04-12T08:30:44Z

Jpadilla:

Irishman '''Edmund Burke''' (1729-1797) was in the British [[parliament]] when the conflict with the American colonies occurred, and he sided with the colonies, making him a hero to many in America. He is also considered to the world's first political [[conservative]], and many conservatives today praise him for that reason. His works included "Inquiries into the Sublime and Beautiful" (defending the American colonies and examining how people interpret what they see) and "Reflections on the Revolution in France" (warning that the French Revolution was evil because a few would gain control and abuse their power).

[[Category:Political people]]

Tarot card

2007-04-11T04:13:35Z

Jpadilla: Redirecting to Tarot

#redirect [[Tarot]]

Tarot card

2007-04-09T08:31:59Z

Jpadilla:

'''Tarot''' also known as '''tarock''' or '''tarocchi''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. Although seen by many as an occult tool, the use of tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on [[18th century]] myths concerning the decks supposed [[Egypt|Egyptian]] origin and on spurious connections with [[Kabbalah]].

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the "[[Major Arcana]]", which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.
*In many regional variants a shortend deck of 62 or 54 cards is used.
==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

==Tarot and the occult==
According to playing card historian David Parlett in The Penguin Encyclopedia of Card Games ''"People are often suprised to learn that Tarot cards were originally invented for playing games, that such games are still widespread and popular in continental Europe, and that the employment of tarots for divination and fortune-telling is a relatively recent perversion of their proper use, dating only from the eighteenth century."''

In recent years, fortune telling and other occult excercises involving tarot cards have become especially popular among those who identify as "[[pagans]]"

==The Bible and fortune telling==
[[Jesus Christ|Jesus]] said in [[Bible |Mathew 6:34: ''"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."'']]

==External links==
*[[http://www.pagat.com/tarot/ Tarot card games ]]
*[[http://i-p-c-s.org/history.html Tarot and playing card history]]
*[[http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21777.html Conservative Voice "What is Tarot?"]]
*[[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/118281/a_seldom_reported_truth_about_tarot.html "A Seldom Reported Truth about Tarot Cards"]]
*[[http://hem1.passagen.se/bernvill/tarot.htm Bo Bernvill on how tarot became occult]]

[[Category:Games]]

Tarot card

2007-04-09T08:28:36Z

Jpadilla: redirect to tarot

#redirect [[Tarot]]

MS NOW

2007-04-05T03:33:05Z

Jpadilla:

'''MSNBC''' is a 24-hour cable news channel. Started in 1996, it is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC.

The channel is the lowest rated of the three major cable news channels. In 2002 the network was even regularly beaten in the ratings by ''CNN Headline News''. In June of 2006, Don Kaplan of the ''New York Post'' wrote a column titled "Do We Need MSNBC?" Addressing MSNBC'S low ratings, Kaplan quoted CNN co-founder Reese Schoenfeld, who said that "Everybody compares MSNBC to [[Fox News Channel|Fox]] and CNN - when its real competition is Headline News". Schoenfeld pointed out that the ratings for MSNBC and Headline News are roughly the same, about 300,000 viewers on average and that "by comparison, Fox and CNN regularly average three or four times as many viewers." In the column Kaplan even joked that "the running joke in TV news is Fox and CNN are news channels with websites, but MSNBC is a website with a cable channel".

MSNBC has received much criticism for its programming and journalistic ethics. The conservative media watchdog group the Media Research Center<ref> [http://www.mediaresearch.org/about/aboutwelcome.asp About Media Research Center] www.mediaresearch.org</ref> has found that MSNBC has a very politically [[liberal]] slant. The MRC particularly points to liberal [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] [[Keith Olbermann]]'s and liberal Democrat [[Chris Matthews]]' programs as examples of the network's liberal bias. In the past, MSNBC shows have featured such prominent liberals as Bill Press, Phil Donahue, and Bill Moyers. Although often perceived as being "left leaning," the network does broadcast programs by such conservatives as [[Joe Scarbourough]] and [[Tucker Carlson]].

==External links==
* [http://msnbc.msn.com Official Site]
* [http://www.setstudio.com/pages/msnbc/ Photos of the MSNBC studio]

==References==
<references/>

MS NOW

2007-04-05T03:32:23Z

Jpadilla:

'''MSNBC''' is a 24-hour cable news channel. Started in 1996, it is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC.

The channel is the lowest rated of the three major cable news channels. In 2002 the network was even regularly beaten in the ratings by ''CNN Headline News''. In June of 2006, Don Kaplan of the ''New York Post'' wrote a column titled "Do We Need MSNBC?" Addressing MSNBC'S low ratings, Kaplan quoted CNN co-founder Reese Schoenfeld, who said that "Everybody compares MSNBC to [[Fox News Channel|Fox]] and CNN - when its real competition is Headline News". Schoenfeld pointed out that the ratings for MSNBC and Headline News are roughly the same, about 300,000 viewers on average and that "by comparison, Fox and CNN regularly average three or four times as many viewers." In the column Kaplan even joked that "the running joke in TV news is Fox and CNN are news channels with websites, but MSNBC is a website with a cable channel".

MSNBC has received much criticism for its programming and journalistic ethics. The conservative media watchdog group the Media Research Center<ref> [http://www.mediaresearch.org/about/aboutwelcome.asp About Media Research Center] www.mediaresearch.org</ref> has found that MSNBC has a very politically [[liberal]] slant. The MRC particularly points to liberal [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] Keith Olbermann's and liberal Democrat Chris Matthews' programs as examples of the network's liberal bias. In the past, MSNBC shows have featured such prominent liberals as Bill Press, Phil Donahue, and Bill Moyers. Although often perceived as being "left leaning," the network does broadcast programs by such conservatives as [[Joe Scarbourough]] and [[Tucker Carlson]].

==External links==
* [http://msnbc.msn.com Official Site]
* [http://www.setstudio.com/pages/msnbc/ Photos of the MSNBC studio]

==References==
<references/>

Tarot

2007-04-05T03:27:54Z

Jpadilla: /* The Bible and fortune telling */

Tarot

2007-04-05T02:24:05Z

Jpadilla:

'''Tarot''' also known as '''tarock''' or '''tarocchi''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. Although seen by many as an occult tool, the use of tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on [[18th century]] myths concerning the decks supposed [[Egypt|Egyptian]] origin and on spurious connections with [[Kabbalah]].

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the "[[Major Arcana]]", which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.
*In many regional variants a shortend deck of 62 or 54 cards is used.
==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

==Tarot and the occult==
According to playing card historian David Parlett in The Penguin Encyclopedia of Card Games ''"People are often suprised to learn that Tarot cards were originally invented for playing games, that such games are still widespread and popular in continental Europe, and that the employment of tarots for divination and fortune-telling is a relatively recent perversion of their proper use, dating only from the eighteenth century."''

In recent years, fortune telling and other occult excercises involving tarot cards have become especially popular among those who identify as "[[pagans]]"

==The Bible and fortune telling==
Jesus said in Mathew 6:34: ''"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."''
==External links==
*[[http://www.pagat.com/tarot/ Tarot card games ]]
*[[http://i-p-c-s.org/history.html Tarot and playing card history]]
*[[http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21777.html Conservative Voice "What is Tarot?"]]
*[[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/118281/a_seldom_reported_truth_about_tarot.html "A Seldom Reported Truth about Tarot Cards"]]
*[[http://hem1.passagen.se/bernvill/tarot.htm Bo Bernvill on how tarot became occult]]

[[Category:Games]]

MS NOW

2007-04-05T01:14:39Z

Jpadilla: Scarbourough and Carlson

'''MSNBC''' is a 24-hour cable news channel. Started in 1996, it is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC.

The channel is the lowest rated of the three major cable news channels. In 2002 the network was even regularly beaten in the ratings by ''CNN Headline News''. In June of 2006, Don Kaplan of the ''New York Post'' wrote a column titled "Do We Need MSNBC?" Addressing MSNBC'S low ratings, Kaplan quoted CNN co-founder Reese Schoenfeld, who said that "Everybody compares MSNBC to [[Fox News Channel|Fox]] and CNN - when its real competition is Headline News". Schoenfeld pointed out that the ratings for MSNBC and Headline News are roughly the same, about 300,000 viewers on average and that "by comparison, Fox and CNN regularly average three or four times as many viewers." In the column Kaplan even joked that "the running joke in TV news is Fox and CNN are news channels with websites, but MSNBC is a website with a cable channel".

MSNBC has received much criticism for its programming and journalistic ethics. The non-partisan media watchdog group the Media Research Center has found that MSNBC has a very politically [[liberal]] slant. The MRC particularly points to liberal [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] Keith Olbermann's and liberal Democrat Chris Matthews' programs as examples of the network's liberal bias. In the past, MSNBC shows have featured such prominent liberals as Bill Press, Phil Donahue, and Bill Moyers. Although perceived as being "left leaning," the network does broadcast programs by such conservatives as Joe Scarbourough and Tucker Carlson.

==External links==
* [http://msnbc.msn.com Official Site]
* [http://www.setstudio.com/pages/msnbc/ Photos of the MSNBC studio]

User talk:SharonS

2007-04-05T01:10:39Z

Jpadilla: /* MSNBC */

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== Protection of pages ==

People are deleting my band! Please help me out! [[AFD Jack Of All Trades]] [[Billy M]]

Yes;_; [[Billy M]]

Dear Sharon,

In principle, I agree with you regarding protecting pages. However, with that being said I saw JoshuaZ unreasonably removing scholarly cautions regarding evolutionary ideas concerning planet formation. I believe he did that because he is unreasonable. Perhaps now that he has a higher profile in regards to supressing creationist criticisms he will stop doing it. I am not very hopeful regarding this matter based on my experiences with him at Wikipedia, however, although I would be pleasantly surprised if he does cease and desist. I wrote Aschafly about reconsidering his reversal of banning and I will see what his response is. With that being said I will try to temper my protecting of certain pages unless I see continued supression of creationist material. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:34, 1 March 2007 (EST)conservative

:Please don't make personal attacks. [[User:Linus M.|[[User:Linus M.|Geekman314]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]])]] 09:34, 9 March 2007 (EST)

Dear Sharon,

Your message to User "ILOVEJESUS" does not seem to have taken. He chopped out a portion of my Debate Topic on [[Infinite regression]]; of course I put my content back using the History feature. I also did not appreciate his calling what he did a "minor edit." Must I set my preferences to advise me of all changes, major or minor?--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]] 23:46, 7 March 2007 (EST)

== Thanks Sharon ==

Thoughtful of you to help. --[[User:Horace|Horace]] 20:10, 8 March 2007 (EST)

== Ketchup addition ==

What a great addition: [[ketchup]]! I really, really enjoyed that News of the Day, Sharon. Thank you!

I'm still laughing about that, Sharon. Your point about ketchup is hilarious!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 15:15, 9 March 2007 (EST)

== [[Julius Caesar]] ==

I notice on that article that the large majority of the information was copied, by you, from a lecture on CP. While this isn't really breaking any rules, it's a bit strange. Do you think you could reword it so that it doens't look like it was copypasted from a lecture? [[User:GofG|GofG]] 17:13, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

: What is a lecture on CP"? What is CP? It's OK to copy from lectures on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:15, 11 March 2007 (EDT)

::I think CP is the abbreviation for Conservapedia. I did copy that information from a World History Lecture. I will try to break it down into sections and reword parts of it to make it more usable. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] 16:52, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

::: That's fine to copy material from other areas of Conservapedia, including lectures. Nothing wrong with that at all!

::: I guess we have a new abbreviation now: CP!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:58, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

== Thanks, Blocking policy ==

Sharon, thanks so much for your terrific blocks and edits. Feel free to use longer blocks for clear problems. Most of my blocks are for infinite duration, because I don't want problems to be coming back on expirations of short blocks. But I defer to your judgment. Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 16:47, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

:OK. I will be using infinite blocks for major vandalism from now on. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] 16:52, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

== This afternoon==

Thank goodness you're on. We need another sysop here, I've spent all afternoon reverting anti-Christian contributions. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 18:05, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

:Thanks so much for all your work! ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] [[User talk:SharonS|Talk!]] 18:08, 13 March 2007 (EDT)

== I'd like to help if I can. ==

Please see my comment on [[User talk:Conservapedia Webmaster]] :-). --[[User:Ymmotrojam|Ymmotrojam]] 21:30, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

== Great new entries! ==

Sharon, great new entries! You've increased the new entries to 4,999! We'll pass 5,000 entries by noon Saturday. Congratulations!

:Thank you! With the increased number of SYSOPs keeping vandalism under control, we have been gaining new articles rapidly over the past few days. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] [[User talk:SharonS|Talk!]] 11:11, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

== If you would be so kind... ==

If you know how, I would love your help configuring my monobook.css (at [[User:Hojimachong/monobook.css]]) to make it look similar to the old layout. I'm just, way more familiar with the old layout, and think I will be more efficient while using it. Feel free to edit my monobook.css page, I'm pretty sure I made a really, really stupid mistake. Thanks! --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 13:30, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

== Copying from wikipedia ==

Thought I'd pass this on to another sysop other than aschlafly for a change. The current article for [[Fox News Channel]] (Note, not the [[Fox News]] page) has LARGE elements lifted directly from wikipedia. I know that's a bad thing. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 18:24, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

If there is anything on that page, which I completely changed yesterday, and what I found was only like two paragraphs, it's because whatever is on Wikipedia was lifted from the sources I cited. I absolutely hate Wikipedia. --[[User:TK|TK]] 08:23, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

:Thank you so much for doing that rewrite! All of your contributions have been outstanding. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] [[User talk:SharonS|Talk!]] 08:26, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

Well, if they are that good, tell me how to add the little "talk" deal to my sig! :p --[[User:TK|TK]] 08:30, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

*Gosh, I copied exactly, and look what it does. :-( --[[User:TK|[[TK|TerryK]]([[User talk:TK|contact me]])]] 23:04, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

If you can, get hold of me, please. My email is listed to send messages to, so is my AIM. Thanks! --~ [[User:TK|Terry]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 08:11, 20 March 2007 (EDT)

Sharon, n/m, I figured out the text box on my talk page. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 07:51, 21 March 2007 (EDT)

== Fox News Channel ==

I have comepleted the re-do. Your suggestions are welcome. --[[User:TK|TK]] 04:33, 18 March 2007 (EDT)

== IRC ==

Greetings, Hojimachong,

[[User:Cracker|Cracker]] and [[User:Linus M.]] have set up an IRC channel for Conservapedia at, originally enough, #conservapedia. Apparently you can send systemwide messages, so we would like you to assist us in getting the word out. Thanks!

Hello:) Thank you, I'm doing what I can. I'm sorry that I spelled some words wrong, but english is not my native language (swedish is a much different language). I would like to have this site in a swedish version, just as wikipedia got:)

== Please take a look.... ==

At the "Abuse" page, last item, "Abuse of sysop priviledge". [[http://www.conservapedia.com/Talk:Adolf_Hitler]] I posted there that I would ask a few other Sysop's to look at what they are talking about. Please don't rush, and consider the edits, etc. Your decision if you want to post there, what you think, or wherever. THANKS! Oh, and you can thank me later for this good turn, lol. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 08:19, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

== [[CP:AID]] ==

If an article is nominated, it will remain on the following list for seven days. In this time, it must recieve eight (8) endorsements (signatures) from users interested in improving the article. If you wish to endorse an article, please sign your name using four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) BELOW the signatures already present. If you wish to add a comment regarding the nomination, create a fourth-level heading (<nowiki>====Heading Goes Here====</nowiki>) BELOW the signatures already in place. The date listed next to the nomination heading is the date by which the article must receive eight (8) endorsements. Or, I can just do it for you. I am off for the afternoon though (school musical, haircut, etc.), so I'll look for your info when I get back. Good luck! --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 16:39, 24 March 2007 (EDT)

== Dinosaur ==

THANK YOU very much for mediating the dispute between Conservative and myself. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 16:17, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

:You're very welcome! That's what I'm here for. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] [[User talk:SharonS|Talk!]] 16:20, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

All this fighting, publicly, only hurts the project. Can't Andrew clean up his page, and keep those public outings of our own off there? --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 17:50, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

==New account request==

Hi, Sharon. My name is Ed, and I've been at Conservapedia.com for about 6 days. I was given sysop rights today. I have 5 years experience at Wikipedia, where I was the first elected bureaucrat.

May I request a new user account for Samantha? She has volunteered to correct the grammar in [[NCFCA]]. I could email her a password, or you and she could discuss a possible new account by email.

She has made helpful comments at the #conservapedia IRC channel.

Thanks. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 19:24, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

:Did she email you yet? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 14:37, 28 March 2007 (EDT)

Can you block [[User:Jigabooze]]?

Blocked. Thanks for the heads up. ~ [[User:SharonS|SharonS]] [[User talk:SharonS|Talk!]] 21:06, 4 April 2007 (EDT)
==MSNBC==
Shouldn't Joe Scarbourough and Tucker Carlson be mentioned there?[[User:Jpadilla|Jpadilla]] 21:10, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

User talk:SharonS

2007-04-05T01:10:20Z

Jpadilla:

MS NOW

2007-04-05T01:05:36Z

Jpadilla: Does not ALWAYS lean left

'''MSNBC''' is a 24-hour cable news channel. Started in 1996, it is a joint venture of Microsoft and NBC.

The channel is the lowest rated of the three major cable news channels. In 2002 the network was even regularly beaten in the ratings by ''CNN Headline News''. In June of 2006, Don Kaplan of the ''New York Post'' wrote a column titled "Do We Need MSNBC?" Addressing MSNBC'S low ratings, Kaplan quoted CNN co-founder Reese Schoenfeld, who said that "Everybody compares MSNBC to [[Fox News Channel|Fox]] and CNN - when its real competition is Headline News". Schoenfeld pointed out that the ratings for MSNBC and Headline News are roughly the same, about 300,000 viewers on average and that "by comparison, Fox and CNN regularly average three or four times as many viewers." In the column Kaplan even joked that "the running joke in TV news is Fox and CNN are news channels with websites, but MSNBC is a website with a cable channel".

MSNBC has received much criticism for its programming and journalistic ethics. The non-partisan media watchdog group the Media Research Center has found that MSNBC has a very politically [[liberal]] slant. The MRC particularly points to liberal [[Democratic Party|Democrat]] Keith Olbermann's and liberal Democrat Chris Matthews' programs as examples of the network's liberal bias. In the past, MSNBC shows have featured such prominent liberals as Bill Press, Phil Donahue, and Bill Moyers.

==External links==
* [http://msnbc.msn.com Official Site]
* [http://www.setstudio.com/pages/msnbc/ Photos of the MSNBC studio]

Tarot

2007-04-04T23:03:59Z

Jpadilla:

'''Tarot''' also known as '''tarock''' or '''tarocchi''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. Although seen by many as an occult tool, the use of tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on [[18th century]] myths concerning the decks supposed [[Egypt|Egyptian]] origin and on spurious connections with [[Kabbalah]].

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the "[[Major Arcana]]", which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.
*In many regional variants a shortend deck of 62 or 54 cards is used.
==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

==Tarot and the occult==
According to playing card historian David Parlett in The Penguin Encyclopedia of Card Games ''"People are often suprised to learn that Tarot cards were originally invented for playing games, that such games are still widespread and popular in continental Europe, and that the employment of tarots for divination and fortune-telling is a relatively recent perversion of their proper use, dating only from the eighteenth century."''

In recent years, fortune telling and other occult excercises involving tarot cards have become especially popular among those who identify as "[[pagans]]"

==The Bible and fortune telling==
Jesus said in Mathew 6:34: ''"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."''
==External links==
*[[http://www.pagat.com/tarot/ Tarot card games ]]
*[[http://i-p-c-s.org/history.html Tarot and playing card history]]
*[[http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21777.html Conservative Voice "What is Tarot?"]]
*[[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/118281/a_seldom_reported_truth_about_tarot.html "A Seldom Reported Truth about Tarot Cards"]]
*[[http://hem1.passagen.se/bernvill/tarot.htm Bo Bernvill on how tarot became occult]]

User talk:Todd

2007-04-04T22:37:53Z

Jpadilla:

I recommend "Reasons why Conservapedia is doomed to fail" on my userpage. [[User:Myk|Myk]] 15:11, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

==tarot==
I know you were well meaning, but to apply the "occult" label to the tarot card game promotes the same stereotypes and distortions propagated by the New Age publishing establishment. By all means oppose the occult, but if a cultural artifact such as tarot was not designed for that purpose it should be noted.[[User:Jpadilla|Jpadilla]] 18:37, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Zedek

2007-04-04T22:33:40Z

Jpadilla: New page: ==tarot== Good work! I am pleased to see that someone finally gets tarot right!~~~~

==tarot==
Good work! I am pleased to see that someone finally gets tarot right![[User:Jpadilla|Jpadilla]] 18:33, 4 April 2007 (EDT)

Tarot

2007-04-04T22:20:52Z

Jpadilla:

'''Tarot''' also known as '''tarock''' or '''tarocchi''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. Although seen by many as an occult tool, the use of tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on [[18th century]] myths concerning the decks supposed [[Egypt|Egyptian]] origin and on spurious connections with [[Kabbalah]].

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the "[[Major Arcana]]", which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.
*In many regional variants a shortend deck of 62 or 54 cards is used.
==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

==Tarot and the occult==
According to playing card historian David Parlett in The Penguin Encyclopedia of Card Games ''"People are often suprised to learn that Tarot cards were originally invented for playing games, that such games are still widespread and popular in continental Europe, and that the employment of tarots for divination and fortune-telling is a relatively recent perversion of their proper use, dating only from the eighteenth century."''

In recent years, fortune telling and other occult excercises involving tarot cards have become especially popular among those who identify as "[[pagans]]"

==The Bible and fortune telling==
Jesus said in Mathew 6:34: ''"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."''

Tarot

2007-04-04T22:17:47Z

Jpadilla: regional variants

'''Tarot''' also known as '''tarock''' or '''tarocchi''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. Although seen by many as an occult tool, the use of tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on 18th century myths concerning the decks supposed Egyptian origin and on spurious connections with Kabbalah.

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the "[[Major Arcana]]", which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.
*In many regional variants a shortend deck of 62 or 54 cards is used.
==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

==Tarot and the occult==
According to playing card historian David Parlett in The Penguin Encyclopedia of Card Games ''"People are often suprised to learn that Tarot cards were originally invented for playing games, that such games are still widespread and popular in continental Europe, and that the employment of tarots for divination and fortune-telling is a relatively recent perversion of their proper use, dating only from the eighteenth century."''

In recent years, fortune telling and other occult excercises involving tarot cards have become especially popular among those who identify as "[[pagans]]"

==The Bible and fortune telling==
Jesus said in Mathew 6:34: ''"Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own."''

Tarot

2007-04-04T22:07:34Z

Jpadilla: counting cards

'''Tarot''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. Although seen by many as an occult tool, the use of Tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on 18th century myths concerning the decks supposed Egyptian origin and on spurious connections with Kabbalah.

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the [[Major Arcana]], which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.

==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.
The values of the cards where "n" is often equal to 1, 2, 3, or 4 depending on the type of game one is playing are given as follows:

Trump XXI (21), Trump I (1), the Excuse or Fool, and the 4 kings are worth 4 + 1/n each

The 4 queens are worth 3 + 1/n each

The 4 knights are worth 2 + 1/n each

The 4 jacks are worth 1 + 1/n each

All other cards are worth 1/n each
For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.

Tarot

2007-04-04T22:04:37Z

Jpadilla: The tarot card game is NOT occult! occult use of tarot is based on myths

'''Tarot''' is a type of trick taking card game using a fixed trump suit. The use of Tarot cards in connection with the occult is based on 18th century myths concerning the decks supposed Egyptian origin.

The 78-card deck contains:
*four [[suit (cards)|suit]]s: depending on the region, either the Anglo-French hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs or the original [[suit (cards)|Latin suits]] of swords, batons, cups, and coins; numbered one through ten, plus four court cards—a jack, a knight, a queen, and a king;
*the twenty-one tarots, known in divination as the [[Major Arcana]], which function in the game as a permanent suit of [[Trump (cards)|trump]]s;
*the Fool, also known as the Excuse, an un-numbered card that in some variations excuses the player from following suit or playing a trump, and in others acts as the strongest trump.

==Typical rules of play:==

Play is typically counter-clockwise; the player to the right of the dealer plays to the first trick. If possible players must follow suit. If following suit is not possible a trump card must be played. The winner of each trick leads the next.

After the hand has been played, a score is taken based on the point values of the cards in the tricks each player has managed to capture.[http://pagat.com/tarot/counting.html counting cards]

For the purpose of the rules, the numbering of the trumps are the only thing that matters. The four Latin suits are replaced in many regions with the [[suit (cards)|French suits]] of hearts, diamonds, clubs, and spades. Some variations of the game are played with a 54-card deck (5, 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10 of hearts and diamonds and 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 of spades and clubs are discarded).

Variations of the game are still played in [[France]], [[Germany]], [[Italy]], [[Switzerland]], [[Denmark]], and especially in the countries on the area of the former [[Austria-Hungary|Austro-Hungarian]] monarchy.