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		<title>User talk:Jpatt</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jefferson: /* user:Jefferson */&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Archive 2008 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Jpatt/Subway_Troll Here]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Archive 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Jpatt/2009]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Archive 2010 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Jpatt/2010]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Your block policy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was just wondering; why are you blocking people with the reason that they don't give their name?&lt;br /&gt;
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People can simply say whatever name they wanted and you wouldn't know if it is true or not.&lt;br /&gt;
More importantly the account creation page states that submitting your name is '''optional'''&lt;br /&gt;
Can please explain the reasoning behind your block policy?&lt;br /&gt;
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ps: I'd appreciate you not blocking me merely for asking this question.  I just ask out of curiosity  ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Philny|Philny]] 18:20, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just as it is optional for first name last initial, the block policy is of the administrators discretion. It helps eliminate sock accounts used by [troll]]s and if the user is truly interested in contributing in good faith, they will recreate their username as commanded. Do users/trolls use fake names? absolutely. Are you really Phil? I chose not to recreate your account but I could be wrong about you. Time will tell. Hope this is a sufficient answer. Have a great day! --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:28, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Jpatt. In all honesty I don't see how your practice would help eliminate sock accounts. People can simply lie about who they are. Socks are best controlled through an IP range block if you asked me. &lt;br /&gt;
::Lastly I would think that good faith would be assumed for new people until they explicitly become trolls/vandals. but hey that's just me. &lt;br /&gt;
::I'm still trying to get rid of those liberal Wikipepdia ways. [[User:Philny|Philny]] 19:54, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Is it foolproof? No. They are not blocked from contributing just blocked from using that name. So it is of good faith on our part to allow them to recreate a username. I did not create the policy and I was  subject to the same policy when I first joined. We'll banish someone when needed and we will ferret out those fake accounts over time. To obey an administrators request is the first step toward recognizing a good faith contributor.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:18, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Hi. My former name was STramp, but you seem to have decided that that cannot be my real name. I'm not quite sure why?[[User:StevenTramp|StevenTramp]] 21:23, 10 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re:Welcome! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the welcome! I'll be sure to read the Editor's Guide ;) --[[User:AznBurger|AznBurger]] 21:36, 19 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conservative 3737, &amp;quot;everything you say is conservative&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...but really not [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Chris_Matthews&amp;amp;curid=10356&amp;amp;diff=846659&amp;amp;oldid=846644 family-friendly.] Thanks for heading him off! [[User:Martyp|Martyp]] 16:32, 5 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The IP is a school and he didn't actually cuss which would cross the line. I am willing to give a second chance if the rules are followed. BTW, I hope no hard feelings for targeting you in the past. Your edits were excellent.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 16:38, 5 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Life is too short for hard feelings. Good call on the &amp;quot;second chance&amp;quot; thing. [[User:Martyp|Martyp]] 16:39, 5 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hello, there is a reason I don't use my real name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll write you an email about it if you like, I would have before but you locked the email so I could not. Account creation was also turned off, which makes recreating my account difficult. --[[User:AlaskanEconomy2|AlaskanEconomy2]] 20:43, 8 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I now feel pretty foolish not having checked this account before creating that one. Thanks/sorry. --[[User:AlaskanEconomy|AlaskanEconomy]] 20:52, 8 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for uploading that image yesterday. With regards to my username, I created it before there was any specific username policy on Conservapedia's Guidelines or Commandments page (even though I've only been contributing recently). If it is important that I have username that contains only my name/initials, I will change it. --[[User:Toadaron|Toadaron]] 17:40, 18 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New conservative pages for 2011 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you were laying down plans for pages to create. I think you might consider making a page on the pence amendment, the recent 240-185 house vote to amend Title X to remove the family planning grants from organizations that perform abortions (like planned parenthood). While I support the decision the issue is outside of my area of specialization and I am afraid of getting some important facts wrong. --[[User:AlaskanEconomy|AlaskanEconomy]] 20:43, 22 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe at some future point. It's too early to determine the outcome. You're welcome to start it.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:45, 22 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== uploading images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How can I upload non-political, non-controversial images that I made myself to Conservapedia?  I suppose you or the Conservapedia administration would like to preview images before uploading them?  How do I show them for you to preview?  [[User:HPadleckas|HPadleckas]] 21:34, 28 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Send to conservapedia@zoho.com--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:39, 28 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Celebrity crime==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, Jpatt. I'm wondering how and when we should report (gloat over?) celebrity crime, like a female pop star arrested for being drunk in public, getting a speeding ticket, etc. Are we trying to prove that Hollywood produces (or encourages) self-indulgent behavior, or what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:53, 2 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I don't have a litmus test for inclusion. I simply take celebrities, be it Democrat or Republican, and post their crimes. As role models, they need to be exposed as to why they make headlines. Their behavior is an example of who &amp;quot;not to follow&amp;quot;. If you have suggestions, of course I would work with you. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:04, 2 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I had nothing in mind, just trying to stimulate thought here. Carry on, my good man! :-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:21, 5 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Delete ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Jpatt - I manually copy-pasted move a page from [[Frankfurt school]] to [[Essay:Frankfurt school]] - but upon examining the content it appears that the original author - CharlieO - copy pasted that from another site. Could you delete both pages? Thanks!--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:50, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 18:57, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Photo upload==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi, I would like to upload a photo of myself, I don't have the rights, can you do it for me? Thanks.--[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 20:35, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, send to conservapedia@zoho.com --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks. :)--[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 21:23, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just sent it to you. :) --[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 21:32, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Done. [http://www.conservapedia.com/images/4/42/Me.jpg]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:41, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. :)--[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 21:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I need you to check your email ==&lt;br /&gt;
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K? [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 23:20, 27 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== nice reversions! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You're fast, sir.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:50, 2 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Did you hear? I'm Quick Draw McGraw!--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:54, 2 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for the helpful links and the welcome. I hope to become a valuable member of the community.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Editing the Wicca page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to formally request that the &amp;quot;murders&amp;quot; section be removed for the reasons stated on the talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a place to smear other people or post inflammatory material. {{unsigned|HarabecW}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:I digress, this is a place to educate others and to warn them to stay clear of witchcraft. Find another topic to edit. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 22:30, 6 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have looked at some of the disputed links, and while I don't know enough about the sources themselves to question their reliability, for most of the stories no causal relationship is established between the person's religious beliefs and their actions. One might just as well divide any story about crime between those where the perpetrator was male or female and argue that their gender was the causal factor. [[User:WilliamB1|WilliamB1]] 22:41, 6 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::A person's beliefs and their actions are always tied together whether you agree or not. If Wiccans start making the news for rape, I will start a new section. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:10, 6 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stubs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we use stub tags here on Conservapedia?-[[User:StevenTramp|StevenTramp]] 23:46, 10 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not really recommended or necessary.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:35, 11 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mistake of an email ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you an email raising a question - having seen the new evidence you can safely ignore it - sorry for that!--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:05, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ravens==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you reverted changes made to the Tower of London article that mentioned the legend of the ravens. I know you banned the editor for vandalism, but in this case, the story is true. There is a legend telling that if the ravens at the Tower leave, it portends the downfall of both the Tower and the kingdom. I know it's trivia, but it's fun too and I'd love to see it added back into the article. Here's a link about the story. http://www.hrp.org.uk/TowerOfLondon/stories/theravens.aspx [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 21:32, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem. Go ahead and add it back.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:38, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks! I'll add the reference too.[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 22:36, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Religion headline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - that's a great news story, but I wonder if I may suggest a small change to the wording? At present is says &amp;quot;study came up with similar findings&amp;quot; but no other findings are listed to be similar too; it's an out of context quote.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd suggest saying something like &amp;quot;'''[[Religion]] comes naturally, even instinctively, to human beings,''' says a 3-year, multi-million Pound survey conducted by Oxford University.&amp;quot; Maybe even add that it is a liberal institution, that offered tenure to Richard Dawkins?  [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 12:25, 13 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maria Shriver ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - I noticed you added &amp;quot;Schwarzenegger&amp;quot; for Shriver's last name. I don't believe she ever changed her name legally and has never gone by the name &amp;quot;Schwarzenegger&amp;quot;. [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:25, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok, I'll remove it. After her divorce she can go from Mrs. Maria Shriver to Ms. Maria Shriver. New age liberals are a joke. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:19, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== user:JimMac ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - this user is vandalising articles and constantly reverting me. Please can you show him the door? [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:52, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Raymond Davis Affair]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know anything of this? The Obama administration evidently invoked Islamic law to circumvent the judicial system in Pakistan to obtain a Blackwater (or whatever) operative in Pakistan only weeks before the Abbotobad raid. People in Pakistan are very upset. The democratically elected regime &amp;amp; military are cooperating with the US because they fear Islamic fundementalism, yet when it suits him, Obama pays $2.3 million in blood money under Koranic law to get a hired mercenary out. Ironic.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 20:03, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I haven't heard this but it wouldn't surprise me.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:07, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Raymond was CIA--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:07, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== user:Jefferson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't sure how to contact you other than this, please let me know if there is another way if you would be so kind. I was not aware of the policy against using fact tags, thank you for informing me. I had seen them used in several articles and assumed it was okay. I would appreciate if you would clear something up for me about the citation policy, please: why is it the responsibility of a person who discovers uncited work to find the citation rather than the original poster of the work? I thought it would have been in the spirit of the encyclopedia's &amp;quot;no gossip&amp;quot; rules that statements should be cited and that calling attention to uncited materials would be helpful in clearing the site of gossip. Thanks again for filling me in and not banning me outright to begin with. I appreciate the help![[User:Jefferson|Jefferson]] 23:25, 3 June 2011 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>User talk:Jpatt</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jefferson: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;== Archive 2008 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Jpatt/Subway_Troll Here]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Archive 2009 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Jpatt/2009]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Archive 2010 ==&lt;br /&gt;
[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Jpatt/2010]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Your block policy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I was just wondering; why are you blocking people with the reason that they don't give their name?&lt;br /&gt;
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People can simply say whatever name they wanted and you wouldn't know if it is true or not.&lt;br /&gt;
More importantly the account creation page states that submitting your name is '''optional'''&lt;br /&gt;
Can please explain the reasoning behind your block policy?&lt;br /&gt;
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ps: I'd appreciate you not blocking me merely for asking this question.  I just ask out of curiosity  ;)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Philny|Philny]] 18:20, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Just as it is optional for first name last initial, the block policy is of the administrators discretion. It helps eliminate sock accounts used by [troll]]s and if the user is truly interested in contributing in good faith, they will recreate their username as commanded. Do users/trolls use fake names? absolutely. Are you really Phil? I chose not to recreate your account but I could be wrong about you. Time will tell. Hope this is a sufficient answer. Have a great day! --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:28, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Jpatt. In all honesty I don't see how your practice would help eliminate sock accounts. People can simply lie about who they are. Socks are best controlled through an IP range block if you asked me. &lt;br /&gt;
::Lastly I would think that good faith would be assumed for new people until they explicitly become trolls/vandals. but hey that's just me. &lt;br /&gt;
::I'm still trying to get rid of those liberal Wikipepdia ways. [[User:Philny|Philny]] 19:54, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Is it foolproof? No. They are not blocked from contributing just blocked from using that name. So it is of good faith on our part to allow them to recreate a username. I did not create the policy and I was  subject to the same policy when I first joined. We'll banish someone when needed and we will ferret out those fake accounts over time. To obey an administrators request is the first step toward recognizing a good faith contributor.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:18, 4 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Hi. My former name was STramp, but you seem to have decided that that cannot be my real name. I'm not quite sure why?[[User:StevenTramp|StevenTramp]] 21:23, 10 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re:Welcome! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the welcome! I'll be sure to read the Editor's Guide ;) --[[User:AznBurger|AznBurger]] 21:36, 19 January 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conservative 3737, &amp;quot;everything you say is conservative&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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...but really not [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Chris_Matthews&amp;amp;curid=10356&amp;amp;diff=846659&amp;amp;oldid=846644 family-friendly.] Thanks for heading him off! [[User:Martyp|Martyp]] 16:32, 5 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The IP is a school and he didn't actually cuss which would cross the line. I am willing to give a second chance if the rules are followed. BTW, I hope no hard feelings for targeting you in the past. Your edits were excellent.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 16:38, 5 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Life is too short for hard feelings. Good call on the &amp;quot;second chance&amp;quot; thing. [[User:Martyp|Martyp]] 16:39, 5 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hello, there is a reason I don't use my real name ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'll write you an email about it if you like, I would have before but you locked the email so I could not. Account creation was also turned off, which makes recreating my account difficult. --[[User:AlaskanEconomy2|AlaskanEconomy2]] 20:43, 8 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I now feel pretty foolish not having checked this account before creating that one. Thanks/sorry. --[[User:AlaskanEconomy|AlaskanEconomy]] 20:52, 8 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thanks ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for uploading that image yesterday. With regards to my username, I created it before there was any specific username policy on Conservapedia's Guidelines or Commandments page (even though I've only been contributing recently). If it is important that I have username that contains only my name/initials, I will change it. --[[User:Toadaron|Toadaron]] 17:40, 18 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== New conservative pages for 2011 ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you were laying down plans for pages to create. I think you might consider making a page on the pence amendment, the recent 240-185 house vote to amend Title X to remove the family planning grants from organizations that perform abortions (like planned parenthood). While I support the decision the issue is outside of my area of specialization and I am afraid of getting some important facts wrong. --[[User:AlaskanEconomy|AlaskanEconomy]] 20:43, 22 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Maybe at some future point. It's too early to determine the outcome. You're welcome to start it.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:45, 22 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== uploading images ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How can I upload non-political, non-controversial images that I made myself to Conservapedia?  I suppose you or the Conservapedia administration would like to preview images before uploading them?  How do I show them for you to preview?  [[User:HPadleckas|HPadleckas]] 21:34, 28 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Send to conservapedia@zoho.com--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:39, 28 February 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Celebrity crime==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, Jpatt. I'm wondering how and when we should report (gloat over?) celebrity crime, like a female pop star arrested for being drunk in public, getting a speeding ticket, etc. Are we trying to prove that Hollywood produces (or encourages) self-indulgent behavior, or what? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:53, 2 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Personally, I don't have a litmus test for inclusion. I simply take celebrities, be it Democrat or Republican, and post their crimes. As role models, they need to be exposed as to why they make headlines. Their behavior is an example of who &amp;quot;not to follow&amp;quot;. If you have suggestions, of course I would work with you. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 15:04, 2 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I had nothing in mind, just trying to stimulate thought here. Carry on, my good man! :-) --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:21, 5 March 2011 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Delete ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey Jpatt - I manually copy-pasted move a page from [[Frankfurt school]] to [[Essay:Frankfurt school]] - but upon examining the content it appears that the original author - CharlieO - copy pasted that from another site. Could you delete both pages? Thanks!--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 18:50, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 18:57, 26 March 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Photo upload==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi, I would like to upload a photo of myself, I don't have the rights, can you do it for me? Thanks.--[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 20:35, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Yes, send to conservapedia@zoho.com --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:19, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks. :)--[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 21:23, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I just sent it to you. :) --[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 21:32, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Done. [http://www.conservapedia.com/images/4/42/Me.jpg]--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:41, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you. :)--[[User:SarahWollstone|SarahWollstone]] 21:44, 8 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== I need you to check your email ==&lt;br /&gt;
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K? [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] 23:20, 27 April 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== nice reversions! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You're fast, sir.--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 19:50, 2 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Did you hear? I'm Quick Draw McGraw!--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:54, 2 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for the helpful links and the welcome. I hope to become a valuable member of the community.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Editing the Wicca page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to formally request that the &amp;quot;murders&amp;quot; section be removed for the reasons stated on the talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is not a place to smear other people or post inflammatory material. {{unsigned|HarabecW}}&lt;br /&gt;
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:I digress, this is a place to educate others and to warn them to stay clear of witchcraft. Find another topic to edit. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 22:30, 6 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I have looked at some of the disputed links, and while I don't know enough about the sources themselves to question their reliability, for most of the stories no causal relationship is established between the person's religious beliefs and their actions. One might just as well divide any story about crime between those where the perpetrator was male or female and argue that their gender was the causal factor. [[User:WilliamB1|WilliamB1]] 22:41, 6 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::A person's beliefs and their actions are always tied together whether you agree or not. If Wiccans start making the news for rape, I will start a new section. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 23:10, 6 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Stubs ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Do we use stub tags here on Conservapedia?-[[User:StevenTramp|StevenTramp]] 23:46, 10 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's not really recommended or necessary.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:35, 11 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mistake of an email ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you an email raising a question - having seen the new evidence you can safely ignore it - sorry for that!--&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;[[User:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color: #FFCCCC; background: #660000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;I]][[User_talk:Iduan|&amp;lt;span style=&amp;quot;color:#CCCCFF; background:#000033&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Duan]]&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/span&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt; 20:05, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Ravens==&lt;br /&gt;
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I noticed you reverted changes made to the Tower of London article that mentioned the legend of the ravens. I know you banned the editor for vandalism, but in this case, the story is true. There is a legend telling that if the ravens at the Tower leave, it portends the downfall of both the Tower and the kingdom. I know it's trivia, but it's fun too and I'd love to see it added back into the article. Here's a link about the story. http://www.hrp.org.uk/TowerOfLondon/stories/theravens.aspx [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 21:32, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem. Go ahead and add it back.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 21:38, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks! I'll add the reference too.[[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 22:36, 12 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Religion headline ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - that's a great news story, but I wonder if I may suggest a small change to the wording? At present is says &amp;quot;study came up with similar findings&amp;quot; but no other findings are listed to be similar too; it's an out of context quote.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd suggest saying something like &amp;quot;'''[[Religion]] comes naturally, even instinctively, to human beings,''' says a 3-year, multi-million Pound survey conducted by Oxford University.&amp;quot; Maybe even add that it is a liberal institution, that offered tenure to Richard Dawkins?  [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 12:25, 13 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maria Shriver ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - I noticed you added &amp;quot;Schwarzenegger&amp;quot; for Shriver's last name. I don't believe she ever changed her name legally and has never gone by the name &amp;quot;Schwarzenegger&amp;quot;. [[User:SharonW|SharonW]] 10:25, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Ok, I'll remove it. After her divorce she can go from Mrs. Maria Shriver to Ms. Maria Shriver. New age liberals are a joke. --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 12:19, 20 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== user:JimMac ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - this user is vandalising articles and constantly reverting me. Please can you show him the door? [[User:TracyS|TracyS]] 10:52, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Raymond Davis Affair]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Do you know anything of this? The Obama administration evidently invoked Islamic law to circumvent the judicial system in Pakistan to obtain a Blackwater (or whatever) operative in Pakistan only weeks before the Abbotobad raid. People in Pakistan are very upset. The democratically elected regime &amp;amp; military are cooperating with the US because they fear Islamic fundementalism, yet when it suits him, Obama pays $2.3 million in blood money under Koranic law to get a hired mercenary out. Ironic.  [[User:RobSmith|Rob Smith]] 20:03, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I haven't heard this but it wouldn't surprise me.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:07, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Raymond was CIA--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 20:07, 27 May 2011 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== user:Jefferson ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wasn't sure how to contact you other than this, please let me know if there is another way if you would be so kind. I was not aware of the policy against using fact tags, thank you for informing me. I had seen them used in several articles and assumed it was okay. I would appreciate if you would clear something up for me about the citation policy, please: why is it the responsibility of a person who discovers uncited work to find the citation rather than the original poster of the work? I thought it would have been in the spirit of the encyclopedia's &amp;quot;no gossip&amp;quot; rules that statements should be cited and that calling attention to uncited materials would be helpful in clearing the site of gossip. Thanks again for filling me in and not banning me outright to begin with. I appreciate the help!&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Filibuster</title>
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&lt;div&gt;A '''filibuster''' is an attempt to block [[United States Senate|Senate]] vote on a bill by debating it at length, by offering numerous procedural motions, or by any other delaying or obstructive actions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.senate.gov/reference/glossary_term/filibuster.htm] US Senate Reference&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  There is no right to filibuster in the House. {{fact}}Since 1975 it takes 60 votes in the Senate to allow a vote, making the 60 seats a goal for both parties.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The term &amp;quot;filibuster&amp;quot; was also used in the 1840s for Americans who raised private armies and tried to take over small countries in Central America. {{fact}}[[File:Mr-smith.jpg|thumb|290px|Bad news for Senator Smith: evil men have manipulated public opinion, telling him to quit]] &lt;br /&gt;
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==Famous Filibusters==&lt;br /&gt;
In practice 19th century filibusters were successful only at the end of a session, when the clock was ticking.  The Senate thereby refused to vote on the [[Wilmot Proviso]] regarding slavery in 1846. {{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1917 a bipartisan group of liberal isolationists led by Senator [[Robert LaFollette]] filibustered a bill to arm American merchant ships that were being attacked by German submarines; war had not been declared and the opponents thought big business was promoting a war with Germany.  The filibuster stopped the legislation, but President [[Woodrow Wilson]] used his war powers to arm the ships anyway.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Thomas W. Ryley, ''A Little Group of Willful Men: A Study of Congressional-Presidential Authority,'' (1975) &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1941, on the eve of World War II, President [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]], in an effort to integrate minority groups into the war effort, issued an [[executive order]], with no vote in Congress, that created the Fair Employment Practices Committee ([[FEPC]]), and enlarged its responsibilities in 1943. {{fact}}It required companies with federal contracts to not discriminate against employees on the base of race, religion or ethnicity.{{fact}} However, only congressional action could extend its life beyond the war years. Senator Dennis Chavez of New Mexico introduced a bill to establish a permanent FEPC in 1945 which set off a national controversy over how much control the federal government should have in employment practices.{{fact}} Southern Democrats viewed the bill as a step toward social equality of the races. Leading the opposition was Senator [[Theodore G. Bilbo]] of Mississippi who vowed he would beat the 'damnable, unAmerican and unconstitutional' FEPC to death. The bill was withdrawn from consideration after a 24-day filibuster.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Robert J. Bailey, &amp;quot;Theodore G. Bilbo and the Fair Employment Practices Controversy: a Southern Senator's Reactions to a Changing World.&amp;quot; ''Journal of Mississippi History'' 1980 42(1): 27-42 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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After 1917 the most famous filibusters were undertaken by Southern Democrats to block civil rights legislation. The record for the longest filibuster is held by Senator [[Strom Thurmond]], who filibustered against the Civil Rights Act of 1957 for 24 hours, 18 minutes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Filibuster_Cloture.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate Rules==&lt;br /&gt;
The right of unlimited debate in the Senate was rejected by the [[Founding Fathers]]. The Continental Congress adopted Rule 10. It followed the practice of the British Parliament and precedent allowed a simple majority to cut off debate by a motion for &amp;quot;the previous question.&amp;quot; This rule was included in sections 8 and 9 of the rules adopted by the first Senate in 1789, was included in Jefferson's ''Manual of Parliamentary Practice,'' and was part of the Senate's rules until it was removed in 1806. The change in 1806 allowed unlimited debate.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The fundamental issue to those who defend the right to filibuster has been the protection of minority rights.  The desire to weaken presidential influence over the upper chamber, not free speech, was instrumental in the decisions of 1826 and 1828 that gave the Senate the ultimate authority to discipline its members.{{fact}} The defeat of the 1856 amendment requiring a Senator to confine himself to the question under debate marked the beginning of over a century of unrestricted debate. The defense of lengthy debate by [[John C. Calhoun]] was a matter of senatorial courtesy, but for his successors it became an inalienable, abstract right.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt; Richard R. Beeman, &amp;quot;Unlimited Debate in the Senate: the First Phase,&amp;quot; ''Political Science Quarterly'' 1968 83(3): 419-434 &amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Before 1917 there was no provision for '''cloture''', or shutting off debate. In response to the successful filibuster of a bill to arm American merchant ships, the Senate adopted the two-thirds rule for cloture putting a halt to debate on an issue.&lt;br /&gt;
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Originally, two-thirds of the senators actually present would be required for cloture. This meant that all senators had to remain present in the chambers, in case a cloture vote was called. This led to situations where senators would stay all night in the chambers, sleeping on cots placed in the lobby. This type of filibuster was dramatically depicted in the [[Frank Capra]] film, &amp;quot;Mr. Smith Goes to Washington&amp;quot; (1939), starring [[James Stewart|Jimmy Stewart]] as the brave lone hero who filibusters an evil bill.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Current rules==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1975 Rule 22 was adopted that reduced the number for cloture to 60 (while leaving the two-thirds rule when the Senate rules themselves are at issue.) The effect is that almost  all major legislation needs 60 votes to pass the Senate.  One exception comes in &amp;quot;reconciliation&amp;quot; bills that deal with the budget. Another is the use of fast track&amp;quot; legislation, as with the North American Free Trade Agreement.&lt;br /&gt;
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In May 2005, Republican leaders proposed what was called the &amp;quot;nuclear option&amp;quot; whereby filibusters would not be allowed on judicial nominations.  Democrats threatened to disrupt all proceedings on all issues if that happened. Senator [[John McCain]] led a bipartisan &amp;quot;Gang of 14&amp;quot; which established a compromise that preserved the ability of senators to filibuster judicial nominees, but only in &amp;quot;extraordinary circumstances&amp;quot;.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Election of Scott Brown==&lt;br /&gt;
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The January 2010 election of Massachusetts Senator [[Scott Brown]] is expected to change the filibuster-proof Democratic majority in the Senate. However, it is not clear how soon after the election the term of incumbent Democrat [[Paul Kirk]] - in [[Ted Kennedy]]'s old seat - will expire. Chances are Democrats will stall, to gain [[partisan advantage]] in the upcoming vote over the &amp;quot;[[Obamacare]]&amp;quot; bill (see also [[national health insurance]]).{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* DeNardis, Lawrence Joseph. &amp;quot;The New Senate Filibuster: An Analysis of Filibustering and Gridlock in the U.S. Senate, 1977-1986&amp;quot; PhD dissertation, New York U. 1990 50(9): 3042-A. DA9004195 350p. &lt;br /&gt;
* Kearny, Edward N., and Heineman, Robert A. &amp;quot;The Senate Filibuster: a Constitutional Critique.&amp;quot; ''Perspectives on Political Science,'' 1997 Vol. 26, Issue 1, online at [[EBSCO]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Wawro, Gregory J., and Eric Schickler. ''Filibuster: Obstruction and Lawmaking in the US Senate,'' (2006) 366pp [http://www.amazon.com/Filibuster-Obstruction-International-Comparative-Perspectives/dp/0691134065/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1251458983&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Sierpiński triangle</title>
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Sierpiński triangle''' (also known as '''Sierpiński gasket''') is a [[fractal]] [[geometry]] constructed from [[triangle]]s. It was first created by [[Wacław Sierpiński]] to triangulate the one-dimensional [[Cantor set]] into a two-dimensional fractal geometry. Sierpiński later generalized his technique to create fractal geometries from other [[polygon]]s, including the square (creating the [[Sierpiński carpet]]) and the circle (Sierpiński circle). [[Topology|Topologically]], the Sierpiński triangle is everywhere [[Dense_subset|dense]], so its closure is the full triangle.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Geometry]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Barack Hussein Obama</title>
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&lt;div&gt;{{Officeholder&lt;br /&gt;
|name=Barack Hussein Obama&lt;br /&gt;
|image=President Barack Obama.jpg&lt;br /&gt;
|party=[[Democrat]]&lt;br /&gt;
|spouse=[[Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
|religion=Described in this article&lt;br /&gt;
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	|country=the United States&lt;br /&gt;
	|number=44th&lt;br /&gt;
	|terms=January 20, 2009-Present&lt;br /&gt;
	|vp=[[Joe Biden]]&lt;br /&gt;
	|preceded=[[George W. Bush]]&lt;br /&gt;
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	|preceded=Peter Fitzgerald&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barack Hussein Obama II''' (born August 4, 1961)  is the 44th President of the [[United States]] and the controversial recipient of the 2009 [[Nobel Prize|Nobel Peace Prize]]. Overcoming a short political career, Obama defeated [[Republican]] nominee [[John McCain]] for the presidency in 2008, campaigning on promises of &amp;quot;change&amp;quot; after an unpopular administration headed by [[George W. Bush]]. In effect, that change has been an embrace of [[Socialism]] and [[liberal]] policies perhaps before unseen by the [[White House]]. {{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Immediately after entering office, Obama was faced with a recession - one of the most severe since the [[Great Depression]]. {{fact}} By and large, his economic policies to combat the recession have, to date, ranged from ineffective to counterproductive.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&amp;quot;The vast majority (73%) of respondents reported the fiscal stimulus enacted in February 2009 has had no impact on employment to date. While 68% also believe a jobs bill, such as the one recently enacted into law, will have no impact on payrolls, 30% do believe it will boost payrolls moderately&amp;quot;. ''Industry Survey'', National Association for Business Economics, April 2010, [http://www.nabe.com/press/ind1004.pdf p. 2 pdf].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also on the domestic front, Obama passed a major [[health care]] bill in 2009 with no [[bipartisan]] support and 34 Democrats dissenting. In foreign policy Obama has escalated the [[Afghanistan War]] while also initiating (via the [[United Nations]]) the [[Libyan uprising 2011|Libyan intervention]] and ending combat operations in the [[War in Iraq]]. On May 1st - as an extension of the War in Afghanistan - he announced that the United States had killed [[September 11th]] mastermind and terrorist [[Osama bin Laden]] in [[Pakistan]], perhaps at the cost of the United States's alliance with Pakistan.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life==&lt;br /&gt;
:''Main article : [[Early life and career of Barack Hussein Obama]]''&lt;br /&gt;
Obama was born in Hawaii to Stanley Ann Dunham and [[Barack Obama Sr.]] - who had married just six months prior - on August 4, 1961 in [[Honolulu, Hawaii]]. The couple divorced in 1964. Barack Obama Sr. was not a citizen of the United States. Dunham remarried Lolo Soetoro, an [[Indonesia]]n student. When Obama was six, Soetoro returned to Indonesia, and Dunham and Obama followed.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;db mother&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-05-03/a-singular-woman-by-janny-scott-review-by-stacy-schiff/#|work=The Daily Beast|format=HTML|language=English|title=Dreams of His Mother|author=Stacy Schiff}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He spent four years in Indonesia before returning to Hawaii to be raised by his grandparents, Madelyn and WW2 veteran Stanley Armour Dunham. He would later attend Occidental College, [[Columbia University]] and then [[Harvard University]] for law school, where he would become the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. It is disputed whether Obama was actually born in the United States, many people believing him to have been born in Kenya.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Illinois State Senate career==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:O-2002-antiwar-rally-davidson.jpg|right|thumb|250px| Obama speaking at the October 2002 rally in Chicago organized by [[Carl Davidson]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Davidson is a longtime [[Mao]]ist and champion of the ''Thought of Mao Tse Tung.'' Davidson's anti-Trotskyite polemic, [http://www.wengewang.org/read.php?tid=10925 ''Left in Form, Right in Essence''] defends Maoist doctrine.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt; Retrieved from 对当代托洛茨基主义的批判：英文论集百花齐放 - 中国文革研究网, March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ''&amp;quot;[H]e is a brutal man who butchers his own people,&amp;quot;'' nevertheless Obama opposed ''&amp;quot;dumb wars&amp;quot;.'']]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1995 Obama openly sought and obtained the endorsement of the [[Marxist]] [[New Party]] in his quest to be elected to the Illinois State Senate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7434 NEW PARTY (NP)], discoverthenetwork.org.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rick Moran. [http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/06/obamas_alliance_with_marxists.html Obama's Alliance with Marxists], ''American Thinker'', June 03, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He became the [[Democrat]] nominee and ran unopposed to win the election. Obama entered the Illinois Senate promising change to a corrupt system. He mixed often radical votes with more pragmatic agreements. Possibly one of his most radical votes was against requiring medical care for aborted children who survive [[abortion|the procedure]] - in fact the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council ascribed him a 100% rating for his consistently pro-choice votes.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cbs illinois&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/17/politics/main2369157.shtml|title=Obama Record May Be Gold Mine For Critics|work=CBS|format=HTML|language=English|last=Clark|first=Amy S.|date=Jan. 17, 2007}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He was criticized for using the statehouse as a stepping stone for a more illustrious career: Steven J. Rauschenberger, a [[Republican]], said prior to Obama's election as president: “He is a very bright but very ambitious person who has always had his eyes on the prize, and it wasn’t Springfield. If he deserves to be president, it is not because he was a great legislator.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=The New York Times|title=In Illinois, Obama Proved Pragmatic and Shrewd|last=Scott|first=Janny|format=HTML|language=English|date=July 30, 2007|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/30/us/politics/30obama.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The statehouse was majority Republican, so the Senator was sometimes forced to compromise. He formed allegiances across party lines to pass [[campaign finance]] reform that banned most gifts by lobbyists, prohibited spending campaign money for legislators’ personal use and required electronic filing of campaign disclosure reports.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Obama also helped pass  a so-called “driving-while-black bill”, which required the police to collect data on the race of drivers they stopped as a way to monitor [[racial profiling]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt illinois&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama established himself as a chief spokesperson in opposition to the [[War on Terror]] during an October 2002 rally at Federal Plaza in Chicago&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The rally was organized by Chicagoans Against War in Iraq (CAWI) later renamed Chicagoans Against War and Injustice. [http://www.noiraqwar-chicago.org/?page_id=2 About CAWI] by Carl Davidson, Nov 02 2006. Retrieved from Chicagoans Against War and Injustice, March 15, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[community organizing|organized]] by veteran [[Mao]]ist and webmaster of [[Progressives for Obama]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.linkedin.com/in/carldavidson Carl Davidson,] LinkedIn.com, retrieved March 13, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Carl Davidson]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Radical foundation and connection to William Ayers===&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Radical roots of Barack Hussein Obama}}&lt;br /&gt;
In 1995 a cadre of like minded individuals gathered in the home of [[Weather Underground]] (WUO) [[terrorist]]s [[Bernardine Dohrn]] and [[William Ayers|William &amp;quot;Bill&amp;quot; Ayers]].  Dohrn,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Georgie Anne Geyer and Keyes Beach &amp;quot;Cuba: School for U.S. Radicals&amp;quot;, ''Chicago Daily News/Chicago Sun-Times'' five part series October 1970, excerpted in [http://foia.fbi.gov/filelink.html?file=/weather/weath1c.pdf FBI file Weather Underground Organization (Weatherman),] Part 1c pp. 5-7 pdf (113-115 in original). [http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/2009/06/07/clandestine-agents-of-the-cuban-government-ayers-dohrn-myers/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; along with Carl Davidson, are veterans of [[guerrilla warfare]] training in [[Cuba]] prior 1968 Democratic National Convention riots.  Ayers and Dohrn have taken credit for, and never denied, bombing the [[U.S. Capitol]], the [[Pentagon]] and the [[State Department]].    &lt;br /&gt;
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Ayers and Dohrn used their celebrity status among [[leftist]]s to launch Obama's career. Ayers, Dohrn and [[Jeff Jones]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;amp;pageId=106653 ''Obama's 'green jobs czar' worked with terror founder] Van Jones served on board of activist group where ex-Weatherman serves as top director'', By Aaron Klein, [[WorldNetDaily]], August 13, 2009.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; are authors of ''[[Bill_Ayers#Prairie_Fire_Organizing_Committee_and_Maoist_thought|Prairie Fire: The Politics of Revolutionary Anti-imperialism]],'' the title taken from ''The Sayings of Mao Zedong.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The book declares &amp;quot;we are [[communist]] men and women.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harvey Klehr, ''Far Left of Center: The American Radical Left Today'' (Transaction Books, New Brunswick, 1988), 109.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Ayers later publicly admitted to ghostwriting Obama's book, ''Dreams From My Father.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/03/ayers_affirms_he_wrote_dreams.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==U.S. Senate career==&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also: [[Early_life_and_career_of_Barack_Hussein_Obama#U.S._Senate_.282004-2008.29|Barack Obama:U.S. Senate (2004-2008)]]''&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|left|Senator Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Following a failed campaign for the U. S. House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004 against Republican candidate Jack Ryan. He won the seat after Chicago media outlets The Chicago Tribune newspaper and Chicago ABC affiliate WLS-TV; together with candidate Jack Ryan's Republican Primary opponents, sought and obtained the release of the confidential and personally embarrassing records in his California divorce from actress Jeri Ryan, forcing him to end his campaign. Ryan was replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]]. Obama won over Keyes 70% to 27% in the general election. Obama spent very little time in the Senate - &amp;quot;frustrated by his lack of influence and what he called the 'glacial pace' ... [he began] running for president even as he was still getting lost in the Capitol’s corridors.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt senate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=The New York Times|publisher=The New York Times, Inc.|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obama in Senate: Star Power, Minor Role|author=Kate Zernike and Jeff Zelleny|date=March 9, 2008|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/09/us/politics/09obama.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama frequently used the [[filibuster]] to obstruct the operations of government,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/03/AR2010020303801_pf.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; voted against the [[minimum wage]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and debt ceiling increases,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2011/04/obama-once-opposed-debt-ceiling-hike/237129/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and recieved more than $126,000 in campaign contributions from [[Fannie Mae]]. The ''[[National Journal]]'' ranked him the most liberal senator in 2007.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;ranked&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-502163_162-3775451-502163.html|title=National Journal: Obama Most Liberal Senator In 2007|author=Brian Montopoli|date=January 31, 2008|work=CBS}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential Election==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Barack Hussein Obama 2008 Presidential campaign}}&lt;br /&gt;
Democrats began calling for an Obama candidacy after liberals lauded his 2004 [[Democratic National Convention]] speech.&lt;br /&gt;
===Campaign to be the Democratic nominee===&lt;br /&gt;
The race for the Democratic ticket originally seemed [[Hillary Clinton]]'s to lose, but was ultimately a close race between Clinton and Obama. Clinton would take a slim advantage in the popular vote, while Obama would carry significantly more states and territories. Obama's advantage with super-delegates over Clinton was about 2-to-1.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Cite web|title=Superdelegate endorsements for Friday 6/6|work=Democratic Convention Watch|url=http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/06/superdelegate-endorsements-for-friday.html}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama was able to attract the support of [[liberals]] by pointing out that he had come out against the [[Iraq War]] &amp;quot;from the beginning&amp;quot; whereas Clinton had voted in favor of the war in 2002.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-31-democrats-debate_N.htm|title=Obama, Clinton stress differences on Iraq, issues|author=David Jackson|work=USA Today|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
===Campaign for the Presidency===&lt;br /&gt;
Obama campaigned against Senator [[John McCain]] in the general election. To the chagrin of Clinton supporters, he selected Senator [[Joe Biden]] to be his running mate, whereas McCain selected [[Governor]] of [[Alaska]] [[Sarah Palin]]. The Obama and Biden ticket would win the election, and Obama would become the nation's first [[African American]] president.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Jeremiah Wright====&lt;br /&gt;
One major dilemma that arose for Obama during his campaign was his connection to his preacher Jeremiah Wright. Obama and his wife (raised a Baptist) were members of the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1776246/posts&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in Chicago, a chruch that embraced [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering so-called &amp;quot;oppressed groups&amp;quot; against &amp;quot;establishment forces&amp;quot;. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays as ministers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Church pastor Jeremiah Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statement &amp;quot;G-d damn America,&amp;quot; and in describing the September 11th attacks, &amp;quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &amp;quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being [[anti-Semitic]].&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In April 2008, after 20 years in the church, candidate Obama made public statements poised to set him at odds with the man who conducted his wedding and baptized his children. With the negative publicity persisting, a month later Obama ended the friendship, left Wright's church, and blamed the media.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, May 31, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obama claimed “It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&amp;quot;, and distanced himself from  Wright's sermons  as &amp;quot;a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in the truth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;USA TODAY, ''Obama breaks with former pastor, Candidate cites rants on U.S. role in terror, AIDS'', by Kathy Kiely and David Jackson [http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080430/1a_offlede30_dom.art.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Obama Says He Is Outraged By Wright's &amp;quot;Rants&amp;quot;''[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080430.htm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Presidential career==&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Obama administration}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Obama and George H. W. Bush.jpg|thumb|right|300px|President Barack Obama meets with former President George H. W. Bush in the Oval Office, Feb. 15, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza).]]&lt;br /&gt;
Under Obama's stewardship the United States has suffered the largest [[Federal budget deficit|deficit]]s&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/107xx/doc10708/11-06-mbr.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/118xx/doc11873/NovemberMBR.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in history and a credit downgrade from the rating agency Standard &amp;amp; Poor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2011/04/18/the-sp-outlook-and-obama/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  [[Poverty]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/incpovhlth/2009/pov09fig04.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; increased to levels not seen in 50 years.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/census/2010-09-16-poverty-rate-income-numbers_N.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; When his [[economic stimulus]] program was adopted unemployment rose and stagnated in the 10% range, &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704476104575439172480870774.html?mod=googlenews_wsj&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; leaving tens of millions without [[hope]] of finding a job.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?data_tool=latest_numbers&amp;amp;series_id=LNS11300000&amp;amp;years_option=specific_years&amp;amp;include_graphs=true&amp;amp;to_month=1&amp;amp;from_month=2 United States Department of Labor], Bureau of Labor Statistics. Data extracted on: July 19, 2010 (4:31:11 PM).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen, writing in the [[Wall Street Journal]], noted, &amp;quot;Rather than being a unifier, Mr. Obama has divided America on the basis of race, class and partisanship.&amp;quot; The commentators also note Obama's approach to governance has encouraged radical leftists to pursue a similar strategy on his behalf. Mary Frances Berry, former head of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, acknowledged that the [[Obama administration]] has taken to polarizing America around the issue of race as a means of diverting attention from other issues, saying, &amp;quot;Having one's opponent [[race card|rebut charges of racism]] is far better than discussing [[Unemployment|joblessness]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.politico.com/arena/perm/Mary_Frances_Berry_91E3D9D5-C40D-440C-9D48-1C50CBC60C87.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Caddell and Schoen, who worked for President Carter and Clinton, respectively, further stated, &amp;quot;Mr. Obama has also cynically [[class warfare|divided the country on class lines]]. He has taken to playing the populist card time and time again. He bashes Wall Street and insurance companies whenever convenient to advance his programs, yet he has been eager to accept campaign contributions and negotiate with these very same banks and [[corporation]]s behind closed doors in order to advance his political agenda... President Obama's divisive approach to governance has weakened us as a people and paralyzed our political culture.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/NA_WSJ_PUB:SB10001424052748703700904575391553798363586.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Domestic policy===&lt;br /&gt;
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Obama's first act of office was to sign the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act - effectively nullifying the [[Supreme Court]] case ''Ledbetter v. Goodyear Tire &amp;amp; Rubber Co.'', which ruled that Ledbetter had to have filed a pay [[discrimination]] suit within 180 days of the first time Ledbetter was payed less than her male peers;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/30/us/politics/30ledbetter-web.html|work=The New York Times|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obama Signs Equal-Pay Legislation|author=Sheryl Gay Stolberg|date=January 29, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the law made corporations subject to suit within 180 days of each time the employee was unfairly paid.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://writ.news.findlaw.com/grossman/20090213.html?=features|work=FindLaw|author=Joanna L. Grossman|date=Feb. 13, 2009|format=HTML|language=English|title=The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On January 2, 2011, Obama signed the James Zadroga [[9/11]] Healthcare and Compensation Act.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2011/jan/02/obama-signs-zadroga-act-law/|publisher=New York Public Radio|title=Obama Signs Zadroga Act into Law|author=Fred Mogul|date=January 02, 2011|work=wNYC|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The act, which afforded 9/11 first responders who were sickened by the dust from the collapse of the [[World Trade Center]] health care and compensation, passed [[Congress]] after its sponsored agreed to scale down the pricing from 7.4 to 4.2 billion dollars.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2010/dec/22/zadroga-911-bill-passes-senate/|publisher=New York Public Radio|work=wNYC|format=HTML|language=English|title=Congress Approves 9/11 Health Bill|date=December 22, 2010}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Critics of the Obama administration have coined the word &amp;quot;[[Obamunism]]&amp;quot; to describe Barack Obama's [[socialism|socialistic]] and &amp;quot;[[fascism]] light&amp;quot; [[economic planning]] policies ([[Benito Mussolini]] defined fascism as the wedding of state and corporate powers.  Accordingly, trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] labels [[Obama administration corporate bailouts|Obama's corporate bailouts]] as being &amp;quot;fascism light&amp;quot; in nature).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/daily-intel/2009/07/20/obamunism-inc|work=The Big Money|publisher=WashingtonPost.Newsweek Interactive Co. LLC|format=HTML|language=English|title=Obamunism, Inc.|author=David Sessions|date=July 20, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.smallbusinessadvocate.com/small-business-interviews/gerald-celente-6944|author=Jim Blasingame|title=Is the government creating a bailout bubble?}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Obamunism can also refer to Obama's [[Obama administration fiscal policy|ruinous fiscal policies]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|reckless monetary policies]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gerard&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://seekingalpha.com/article/120883-monetary-policynot-obama-s-stimulusis-what-needs-watching|title=Monetary Policy-Not Obama's Stimulus-Is What Needs Watching|author=Gerard Jackson|date=February 16, 2009|work=Seeking Alpha}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bam&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=New York Post|date=May 17, 2009|url=http://www.nypost.com/seven/05172009/postopinion/editorials/bams_wise_words_169731.htm|title=BAM'S WISE WORDS}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/|title=Bush Deficit vs. Obama Deficit in Pictures|work=The Foundry|publisher=The Heritage Foundation|author=Conn Carroll|date=March 24th, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Wall Street]] firms and banks that were bailed out were among Obama's biggest campaign supporters.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cycle=2008&amp;amp;cid=N00009638&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Therefore, the Obama administration bailouts of corrupt, unproductive, and reckless Wall Street firms was hardly surprising, although it certainly was not helpful in making the United States economy more productive and prosperous.  A 2005 study found that government corporate bailouts are often done for mere political considerations and the economic resources allocated exhibit significantly worse economic performance than resources allocated using purely business considerations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=676905&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Proponents of [[free market]] capitalism said Bernanke should not have bailed out failing firms and instead should have allowed free market capitalism to quickly recover as it did in the depression of 1920 without government intervention (free market capitalists assert that government intervention drags out economic recessions and depressions).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czcUmnsprQI&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Top trend forecaster [[Gerald Celente]] predicts that the corrupt economic policies of the Obama administration will lead to a second [[Great Depression|great depression]] (Celente predicted the 1987 US stock market crash, the dot.com crash, the US 2008/2009 recession, and the collapse of the USSR in the early 1990s) and may lead to a &amp;quot;second [[American Revolution]]&amp;quot; (Celente predicted the [[Tea Party Movement|tax protests]] that are now occurring in America).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente1&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MMX3SKzrfU&amp;amp;feature=channel_page&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente2&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy9bfw1ebgw&amp;amp;feature=response_watch&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Celente also asserts that the costly and inefficient temporary short term methods that the Obama administration is using to alleviate economic problems in the short term (which is causing massive increases in [[Obama administration deficit spending]]) is only making matters worse and will not prevent the worse economic depression in United States history from occurring.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C8K7rWkGGw&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LBffdIW0XA&amp;amp;feature=response_watch&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The Obama administration has been sharply criticized for [[Obama administration deficit spending|its massive deficit spending]] and [[Obama administration monetary policy|its reckless monetary policy]] via vast increases in the [[money supply]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;gerard&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bam&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/bush-deficit-vs-obama-deficit-in-pictures/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Celente predicts that if a &amp;quot;second American Revolution&amp;quot; occurs in a peaceful and productive manner, it may include a [[Third Party System|third party movement]] of governance that will advocate a more [[free market]] [[capitalism]] approach to the American economy and a more strict interpretation of the [[United States Constitution|United States constitution]] as far as the authors' [[original intent]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente1&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;celente2&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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During what the [[White House]] billed as [[Recovery Summer]], one half million workers per week continued losing their jobs. His signature legislative achievement, [[ObamaCare]], the federal courts have found to be [[unconstitutional]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-13/u-s-health-care-law-requirement-thrown-out-by-judge.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and is credited as a major cause of uncertainty, high [[unemployment]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33220&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; lagging job creation,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.heritage.org/2010/08/05/it%E2%80%99s-official-medicare%E2%80%99s-finances-shadowed-by-uncertainty/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and risk of a credit default crisis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/28/AR2010032802353.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.thestreet.com/story/10703361/cramer-obamacare-will-topple-the-market.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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His 2012 Budget plan has been roundly criticized in the mainsream and liberal press as not a serious effort to deal with the nation's economic crisis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=blogs.view&amp;amp;blog_id=1551d6f5-2ac9-4b8d-97ab-74def354024e Newspapers Call Out White House: ‘What Would That Path Be, Mr. President?’]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Healthcare=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Obamacare}}&lt;br /&gt;
On March 23, 2010, Obama signed the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA). The act had originated in the House of Representatives and passed September 17, 2009. The act was amended and passed the Senate prior to [[Democrat]] [[Ted Kennedy]]'s passing along party lines - just a filibuster-proof majority at 60-39. In a de facto rejection of the bill, [[Massachusetts]] voters elected a [[Republican]] candidate, [[Scott Brown]], who promised to vote against the bill,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/senate/scott-brown-wins-massachusetts-senate-race.html|work=The Washington Post|author=Chris Cillizza|date=January 19, 2010|title=Scott Brown wins Massachusetts Senate special election race|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; but another Senate vote would not occur. After Obama made a promise to issue an [[executive order]] that would ultimately prohibit the use of taxpayer subsidies to pay for [[abortion]] services,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.latimes.com/2010/mar/22/nation/la-na-healthcare-passage22-2010mar22/3|work=The Los Angeles Times|format=HTML|language=English|title=House passes historic healthcare overhaul|date=March 22, 2010|author=Noam N. Levey and Janet Hook}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the [[House of Representatives]] would pass the bill as it left the Senate 219-212, with 34 Democrats and all other parties dissenting.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.cnn.com/2010-03-21/politics/health.care.main_1_health-care-entire-house-democratic-caucus-pre-existing-conditions?_s=PM:POLITICS|date=March 21, 2010|author=Alan Silverleib|work=CNN|format=HTML|language=English|title=House passes health care bill on 219-212 vote}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Amongst other things, the act mandates that the population purchase health care coverage or face punitive tax measures, and on this basis has been constitutionally challenged in the federal courts, with mixed results (three courts have upheld the act, two have declared it unconstitutional); thus, the Act is likely destined for [[Supreme Court]] reviewal.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Gulf oil spill====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Gulf of Mexico oil spill disaster}}&lt;br /&gt;
President Obama authorized offshore oil drilling in the [[Gulf of Mexico]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0430/Gulf-of-Mexico-oil-spill-imperils-Obama-s-offshore-drilling-plan Gulf of Mexico oil spill imperils Obama's offshore drilling plan,] By Mark Clayton, ''Christian Science Monitor'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; stating, &amp;quot;oil rigs today generally don’t cause spills&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;White House Press Release, [http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-a-discussion-jobs-and-economy-charlotte-north-carolina Remarks by the President in a Discussion on Jobs and the Economy in Charlotte, North Carolina,] Office of the Press Secretary, April 02, 2010. Retrieved from whitehouse.gov 3 May 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and was widely criticized for his mishandling of the &amp;quot;[[Gulf oil spill disaster|worst environmental disaster]] in US history.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.examiner.com/x-33986-Political-Spin-Examiner~y2010m4d29-Worst-environmental-disaster-in-US-history-Oil-slick-in-Gulf-of-Mexico-is-set-on-fire Worst environmental disaster in US history,] Maryann Tobin, ''Examiner'', April 29, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/04/30/the-oil-spill-is-obamas-fault/?src=twt&amp;amp;twt=NytimesKrugman Conscience of a Liberal: The Oil Spill Is Obama’s Fault,] Paul Krugman, ''New York Times'', April 30, 2010.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Don't Ask Don't Tell====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Don't Ask Don't Tell}}&lt;br /&gt;
Candidate Obama promised to repeal a policy that originated in the Clinton era that prohibited inquiries into military personnel's [[sexual orientation]] while also barring &amp;quot;out&amp;quot; [[homosexuals]] from serving in the military. [[Liberals]] expressed anger when time passed and no effort to repeal the law was seen;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/21/obama-to-delay-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell/|work=The Washington Times|format=HTML|title=Obama to delay ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ repeal|language=English|author=Rowan Scarborough|date=November 21, 2008}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in fact, Obama's [[justice department]] filed a brief arguing against the [[Supreme Court]] granting a [[writ of certiorari]] to a gay soldier challenging the law (the writ was not granted). In response, the soldier, James Pietrangelo II, a former Army infantryman and lawyer, said, “[Obama's] a coward, a bigot and a pathological liar. This is a guy who spent more time picking out his dog, Bo, and playing with him on the White House lawn than he has working for equality for gay people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|work=Time Magazine|publisher=Time Inc.|format=HTML|url=http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1903545,00.html?imw=Y|title=Dismay Over Obama's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Turnabout|author=Mark Thompson|date=Jun. 09, 2009}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On December 15th, 2010, a bill was introduced in the [[House of Representatives]] to repeal the law - it passed a day later by a vote of 250-175;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll638.xml|title=FINAL VOTE RESULTS FOR ROLL CALL 638|format=HTML|work=Office of the Clerk of the U.S. House of Representatives}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; it passed the Senate three days later 65-31.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&amp;amp;session=2&amp;amp;vote=00281|work=The U.S. Senate|title=U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 111th Congress - 2nd Session|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Obama signed the Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Act of 2010 on December 22nd.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;g dadt&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/22/obama-repeals-dont-ask-dont-tell|work=The Guardian|format=HTML|language=English|title='Don't ask, don't tell' repealed as Obama signs landmark law|date=22 December 2010}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Pentagon]] itself could not immediately implement the repeal and questioned whether it would hurt combat readiness.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;g dadt&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Senator [[John McCain]], the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, opposed the bill, saying &amp;quot;It may be premature to make such a change at this time and in this manner, without further consideration of this report and further study of the issue by Congress – for of all the people we serve, one of our highest responsibilities is to the men and women of our armed services, especially those risking their lives in combat.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/mccain-on-dont-ask-dont-tell-dont-rush/|title=McCain on ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’: Don’t Rush|date=December 2nd, 2010|format=HTML|author=David M. Herszenhorn|language=English|work=The New York Times}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Foreign policy===&lt;br /&gt;
As Senator, Obama was highly critical of President Bush and promised change. As President, Obama has tripled down in Afghanistan, widened the war into Pakistan, multiplied drone attacks, bombed Yemen and Somalia, and started an undeclared NATO war in Libya. On presidential war powers, surveillance questions, Guantanamo, detention policy and habeas corpus, Obama has similarly stayed the course, or expanded Bush's precedents. In a speech on May 19, 2011 Obama fully embraced the [[Bush Doctrine]] of preventative war.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-news-in-obamas-speech/2011/05/19/AF4dFN7G_story.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Commander-in-chief====&lt;br /&gt;
By Obama's second year as Commander-in-Chief, 559 American troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan - significantly more than the 469 who died during Presisdent [[George W. Bush]]'s final year in office.  And growing numbers of civilian contractors also have fallen. In the first half of 2010, 250 contractors reportedly died in Iraq and Afghanistan - more than the 235 military personnel who fell during the same period.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/05/24/114662/what-price-war.html#ixzz1Nz07pg5O&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
=====Iraq=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Operation Iraqi Freedom}}&lt;br /&gt;
Obama campaigned on a promise to end the War in Iraq. On August 21, 2010, he ended combat operations, but left 50,000 U.S. troops in the country.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://articles.cnn.com/2010-08-31/politics/obama.oval.office.address_1_iraq-requests-united-states-and-iraq-troop-surge?_s=PM:POLITICS|work=CNN|title=Obama: 'Time to turn the page' as Iraq combat mission ends|date=August 31, 2010|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Afghanistan=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Afghanistan War}}&lt;br /&gt;
Obama escalated troop strength&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pbs&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/obamaswar/themes/strategy.html#ixzz1LhWNImZp|title=Obama's New Strategy (March '09)|author=George Packer, Seth Jones, David Kilcullen, Rory Stewart, Andrew Exum, Col. Andrew Bacevich (Ret.)|work=PBS|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and defense costs in Afghanistan from $43.5 billion in George Bush's last year to $113.7 billion for 2011.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Congressional Research Service, quoted in Gregory Anthony, ''What price war?''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Adviser to General [[Stanley McChrystal]] David Kilcullen wrote, &amp;quot;One of the big strategic shifts is the use of language now which talks about Pakistan and Afghanistan as the same theater. Now we talked about Af-Pak long before the Obama administration came about, but the public use of that term, and the description of it as the Afghanistan-Pakistan campaign, sends a new message to people about how the administration is going to think about Afghanistan and Pakistan.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pbs&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; This became evident when, under the orders of Obama, a military SEALs team killed September 11th mastermind [[Osama bin Laden]] in Abottabad, Pakistan.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/05/commander-in-chief.html|title=Commander in Chief|author=Daniel Romano and Daniel Klaidman|date=May 05, 2011|work=Newsweek|publisher=The Newsweek/Daily Beast Company LLC|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Libya=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Libyan uprising 2011}}&lt;br /&gt;
In February 2011, the political unrest that had spread through the Arab world showed up as protests in Libya. Colonel Muammar el-Qaddafi - dictator of Libya for 41 years - responded to the activism with a wave of violence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt libya&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/international/countriesandterritories/libya/index.html|work=The New York Times|publisher=The New York Times Inc.|format=HTML|language=English|title=Libya — Protests and Revolt (2011)}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The [[United Nations Security Council]] voted unanimously to impose [[sanctions]], and later authorized all members to take action to protect civilians. Obama, acting without approval from Congress and at the beckoning of the [[United Nations]], directed American forces to take out Libya's air defense system.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nyt libya&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Obama later said, &amp;quot;[I]f we waited one more day Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Barack Obama|url=http://www.npr.org/2011/03/28/134935452/obamas-speech-on-libya-a-responsibility-to-act|title=Obama's Speech On Libya: 'A Responsibility To Act'|date=March 28, 2011|publisher=National Public Radio ([[NPR]])|language=English|format=HTML}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Alan J. Kuperman - writing an editorial for the [[Boston Globe]] - suggested this statement was false, writing, &amp;quot;[I]ntervention did not prevent genocide, because no such bloodbath was in the offing. To the contrary, by emboldening rebellion, US interference has prolonged Libya’s civil war and the resultant suffering of innocents.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;kuperman&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|author=Alan J. Kuperman|work=The Boston Globe|url=http://articles.boston.com/2011-04-14/bostonglobe/29418371_1_rebel-stronghold-civilians-rebel-positions|title=False pretense for war in Libya?|date=April 14, 2011}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Kuperman, a professor of public affairs at the University of Texas who authored a book called ''The Limits of Humanitarian Intervention'', further stated that the rebels had tricked the world into thinking a bloodbath was at hand and that Obama had lied to the American people in order to act on this theory.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;kuperman&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=====Guantanamo Bay=====&lt;br /&gt;
{{main article|Guantanamo Bay}}&lt;br /&gt;
One of Obama's campaign promises was that he would close the American detention center at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba - detainees would be flown to other countries while the ones awaiting trial would enter the American court system. Two days after taking office he signed an order directing the military to do so.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;salon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2011/04/25/obama_guantanamo_rhetoric|work=Salon|title=The Obama/Gitmo timeline|author=Natasha Lennard|format=HTML|language=English}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; But, in November 2009 Obama admitted that his self imposed deadline of January 2010 would be missed, and in March 2011 the president went back on his campaign promise, signing an executive order to create a formal system of indefinite detention for the prisoners.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;salon&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Obama birth certificate controversy]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Political positions of Barack Obama]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Dinosaurs''' are usually believed to be extinct animals ranging in size from a few ounces to some of the largest land animals ever to exist.  &lt;br /&gt;
The word ''dinosaur'' was coined in 1841 by [[Richard Owen]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Grigg, Russell, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/1956/ Dinosaurs and dragons: stamping on the legends], ''Creation''&lt;br /&gt;
14(3):10–14, June 1992&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, from the Greek words for &amp;quot;terrible lizard&amp;quot;, and reflected the creatures' large size and fearsome appearance to the early paleontologists.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Highlights of the history of dinosaur paleontology==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Osborn.jpg‎‎|200px|thumb|right|[[Henry Fairfield Osborn]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the United States during the 1900s, the public imagination was caught by the discoveries of [[Henry Fairfield Osborn]] (1857-1935) and the great competitive dinosaur hunters, Edward Drinker Cope (1847-1897) and Othniel Charles Marsh (1831-1899). Exploring in Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico, they found numerous fossil dinosaurs. Their museums worked out the techniques for mounting and displaying them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dinosaur Species==&lt;br /&gt;
Dinosaurs were immensely varied, and included both herbivores and carnivores.  Although many have been found in the fossil record, paleontologists expect that they have barely scratched the surface of the vast superorder that the dinosaurs encompassed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060905-dinosaurs_2.html Vast Majority of Dinosaurs Still to Be Found, Scientists Say], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===History of dinosuars===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Michelangeloflood.jpg|thumb|250px|left|''The [[Great Flood|Flood]]'', by [[Michaelangelo]], detail from the [[Sistine Chapel]], 1509.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Creation science]] asserts that the biblical account, that dinosaurs were created on day 6 of [[creation]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Genesis'' 1:25&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; approximately  [[Counterexamples to an Old Earth|6,000 years ago]], along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus [[Counterexamples to Evolution|debunking the Theory of Evolution]] and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age of the earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science shows that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably including in the [[Garden of Eden]]) eating only plants&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Genesis'' 1:29-30&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; that pairs of each dinosaur [[kind]] were taken onto [[Noah's Ark]] during the [[Great Flood]] and were preserved from drowning&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3967/ Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carl Wieland, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/219/ Dinosaur bones—just how old are they really?], ''Creation'', vol. 21 No. 1 p. 54&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; and that possibly some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.&amp;lt;ref Name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Robert Doolan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/833/ Are dinosaurs alive today?], ''Creation'', vol. 15 No. 4 p. 12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Archaeological]], [[fossil]], and documentary evidence supports the [[faith and science|logical]] conclusion that dinosaurs co-existed with mankind until at least relatively recent times.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the [[Bible]] does not use the word &amp;quot;dinosaur.&amp;quot;  However, there are numerous references throughout the biblical account. For example, the [[behemoth]] in [[Job]]  and the [[leviathan]] in [[Isaiah]] are clearly references to dinosaurs,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Allan K. Steel, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1799 Could Behemoth have been a dinosaur?], ''Journal of Creation'' vol. 15 No. 2 p. 42.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.answersincreation.org/job4041a.htm], ''Answers in Creation''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although others have claimed that Behemoth and Leviathan are references to a hippopotamus or elephant and a crocodile respectively.  However, the Biblical descriptions do not fit those creatures, note that hippopotamuses and elephants do not have a &amp;quot;tail like a cedar&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Extinction ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science rejects the &amp;quot;Great Impact Theory&amp;quot;, pointing out multiple problems with this theory. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jonathan Sarfati, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2426 Did a meteor wipe out the dinosaurs?].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science shows that evolutionists are frequently coming out with a &amp;quot;New Theory of Dinosaur Extinction&amp;quot; and that their theories are laden with false assumptions. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Matthews, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1115dinosaur.asp Dinosaur demise theory, version #451], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dinosaur-like creatures in history and modern sightings====&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science cites a number of reasons to believe that dinosaurs have existed until relatively recent times, and perhaps still survive.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AZ_RockArtDino1a.jpg‎|right|150|thumb|right|Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which he claimed portrays dinosaurs and man coexisting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* There have been a number of sightings of dinosaur-like creatures reported by the [[best of the public]].&lt;br /&gt;
** A thousand people reported seeing a dinosaur-like monster in two sightings around Sayram Lake in Xinjiang according to the Chinese publication, China Today.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Locals in the Congo have reported a creature they name ''Mokele-mbembe''&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mokelembembe.com/ Mokele-mbembe The Living Dinosaur!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and from its description it appears to be a small plant-eating dinosaur.  The reports have been taken seriously enough that a biologist from the [[University of Chicago]] has made several expeditions to find the creature.  Another biologist has reported seeing the creature.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Dinosaur-like creatures have been seen by several people in two different parts of [[Papua New Guinea]] since 1990.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Anon., [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/381 A living dinosaur?], ''Creation'' 23(1):56, December 2000.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Irwin, Brian, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5847 Theropod and sauropod dinosaurs sighted in PNG?] 1st July, 2008 (Creation Ministries International).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* There are drawings of creatures resembling dinosaurs.&lt;br /&gt;
** An expedition which included Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which he claimed portrays dinosaurs and man coexisting.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationism.org/swift/DohenyExpedition/Doheny01Main.htm Doheny Scientific Expedition, Hava Supai Canyon, Arizona], ''Creationism.org''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/read/the_hava_supai_dinosaur_carving The Hava Supai Dinosaur Carving], ''ChristianCourier.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina, a second century BC piece of art, contains a portion which depicts a group of Ethiopians hunting what some claim appears to be a dinosaur; there is much debate on this, however, and most modern art historians consider the mysterious animal to be a lion or a crocodile (the latter theory is supported by the presence of the Greek word for &amp;quot;crocodile&amp;quot; written near the image of the mysterious animal). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.s8int.com/dinolit2.html Dinosaurs in Literature, Art &amp;amp; History-- Page 2], ''s8int.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Palestrina1.jpg|right|thumb|A portion of the [[Nile Mosaic of Palestrina]], depicting the hunting of an animal which is often said to resemble a dinosaur (but which appears to be labelled &amp;quot;crocodile&amp;quot; in Greek).]] &lt;br /&gt;
** Engravings in the floor of Carlisle Cathedral appear to be of dinosaurs.  They are on the tomb of bishop Richard Bell, who died in 1496.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See picture on page 241 of Batten, Don, et. al., 2007, ''The Creation Answers Book''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Creatures matching dinosaurs and similar creatures have been described by various people groups.&lt;br /&gt;
** The description of the &amp;quot;[[Thunder bird]]&amp;quot; of [[American Indian]]s matches the descriptions of [[pterosaur]]s.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Descriptions of [[dragon]]s are widespread and match descriptions of dinosaurs, showing that dragons were real creatures and were actua very likely dinosaurs.&lt;br /&gt;
** The World Book Encyclopedia states that: &amp;quot;The [[dragon]]s of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Quoted in [http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ25.html What about the Dinosaurs?], ''CreationScience.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Dragons exist in the folklore of many European and Asian cultures.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;WB2000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''Dragon'' entry in World Book Millennium 2000 CD ROM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  World Book Encyclopedia says, &amp;quot;In Europe, dragons are traditionally portrayed as ferocious beasts that represent the evils fought by human beings.  But in Asia, especially in China and Japan, the animals are generally considered friendly creatures that ensure good luck and wealth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref Name=&amp;quot;WB2000&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Dragons appear in the flag of [[Wales]], in traditional [[China|Chinese]] New Years' Day celebrations, and in the Chinese [[calendar]].  Every other creature on the calendar is a real creature.&lt;br /&gt;
* That dinosaurs are not known from the fossil record above the [[Cretaceous]] strata is not reason to believe that they have not survived until more recent times.&lt;br /&gt;
** Living specimens of orders of animals that were believed to have been extinct for millions of years have been found before, such as the Diatomyidae Squirrel &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Diatomyidae]] Squirrel [http://news.softpedia.com/news/They-Thought-It-Went-Extinct-11-Million-Years-Ago-19557.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the Wollemi Pine &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wollemi Pine ''Biotechnology Australia'' [http://www.biotechnologyonline.gov.au/enviro/wollemi.cfm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the [[Coelacanth]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sulawesi Coelacanth. ''University Of California, Berkeley''[http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vertebrates/coelacanth/coelacanths.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;More on the Coelacanth ''marinebio.org''[http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=54]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some believe the [[Loch Ness Monster]] to be a [[Plesiosaur]].{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* The recent dinosaur tissue find is a strong rebuttal of the claim that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carl Wieland, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3042 Still soft and stretchy], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- The Coelacanth are from a group that had previously been thought to have rudimentary limbs and so be the ancestor of land creatures, but this idea was dropped when living Coelacanths were discovered.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/coelacanth.html Coelacanth: the world’s oldest fish?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Biologists see this as merely a minor adjustment to the story of evolution. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Dinosaurs and birds ====&lt;br /&gt;
Creation science shows that the idea that birds are descendants of dinosaurs is not demonstrated by the evidence &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3833/106/ Bird evolution?], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Andy McIntosh, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/540/ 100 years of airplanes—but these weren’t the first flying machines!], ''Creation'' vol. 26 No. 1 p. 44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and that the dinosaur-bird connection is even disputed by some evolutionists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his article, &amp;quot;Fifteen ways to refute materialistic bigotry&amp;quot;, Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]] wrote regarding dinosaurs being descendants of birds:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“The same logic applies to the dinosaur-[[bird]] debate. It is perfectly in order for creationists to cite [[Alan Feduccia|Feduccia]]’s devastating criticism against the idea that birds evolved ‘ground up’ from running dinosaurs (the cursorial theory). But the dino-to-bird advocates counter with equally powerful arguments against Feduccia’s ‘trees-down’ (arboreal) theory. The evidence indicates that the critics are ''both'' right — birds did not evolve either from running dinos or from tree-living mini-crocodiles. In fact, birds did not evolve from non-birds at all!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jonathan Sarfati, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2610 15 ways to refute materialistic bigotry], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science also cites the evolutionist and [[atheism|atheist]] [[Ernst Mayr]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Matthews, Michael, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/1208mayr.asp 99 and still fighting God], 8th December, 2003 (Answers in Genesis).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who stated the following:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“It must be admitted, however, that it is a considerable strain on one’s credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird’s feather) could be improved by random mutations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ReferencesandNotes10.html In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood], ''Center for Scientific Creation''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The March 2003 issue of ''Scientific American'' is also cited by creation scientists:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Of all the body coverings nature has designed, feathers are the most various and the most mysterious...The origin of feathers is a specific instance of the much more general question of the origin of evolutionary novelties--structures that have no clear antecedents in ancestral animals and no clear related structures (homologues) in contemporary relatives. Although evolutionary theory provides a robust explanation for the appearance of minor variations in the size and shape of creatures and their component parts, it does not yet give as much guidance for understanding the emergence of entirely new structures, including digits, limbs, eyes and feathers....&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Matthews, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0313sciam.asp Scientific American admits creationists hit a sore spot], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000CD7F6-B16F-1E41-89E0809EC588EEDF Which Came First, the Feather or the Bird?], ''Scientific American''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science also shows that the comparative anatomy analysis done by evolutionists comparing bird bones and dinosaur bones is flawed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dr. David N. Menton, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0328discovery.asp &amp;quot;Ostrich-osaurus&amp;quot; Discovery?], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Evolutionary/Old Earth Perspective===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PzMyers2.jpg|thumbnail|251px|right|There is excellent evidence that dinosaurs and man coexisted.  During a visit to the [[Creation Museum]], the evolutionist and [[atheism|atheist]] [[PZ Myers]] had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQl2TMrgbM VIDEO] See also: [[Atheism and obesity]] and [[Evolutionists who have had problems with being overweight and/or obese]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The view of [[atheism|atheists]], evolutionists  and others who accept the uniformitarian timescale is that dinosaurs existed on earth from 230 million years ago to 65 million years ago. In this view, the entire population of dinosaurs were wiped out by a mass extinction event (usually thought to be a meteorite) about 65 million years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
This precludes humans and dinosaurs co-existing. &lt;br /&gt;
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====Extinction====&lt;br /&gt;
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According to evolutionists, close to 65 million years ago, at the end of the [[Cretaceous]] period, and the beginning of what is called the [[Tertiary]] period, an event occurred which has come to be known as the [[K-T Event]].  This event would have obliterated most life on Earth, plunging the world into something that would now be likened to global nuclear winter, through which few extant species could survive.  Although these scientists dispute the nature of the K-T Event (selecting among any number of catastrophes that could have caused the significant global cooling that resulted), most find that the claimed K-T Event was caused by the collision of a massive asteroid with the Earth, the dust and debris from which would have shrouded the sky for thousands of years, cooling Earth considerably.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kevin O Pope, &amp;quot;Meteorite impact and the mass extinction of species at the Cretaceous/Tertiary boundary,&amp;quot; Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, available at [http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/19/11028]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to this view, the dinosaurs did not survive this cataclysm.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0823_020823_asteroid.html Prehistoric Asteroid &amp;quot;Killed Everything&amp;quot;], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A layer of rock containing high concentrations&amp;lt;!-- &amp;quot;High&amp;quot;, or just &amp;quot;higher than normal&amp;quot;? --&amp;gt; of [[Iridium]], a metal that is extremely rare on earth but common in asteroids, is said to be due to the vaporization and then fall of dust from the meteorite's impact, and its compression within the subsequent geological record.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Ibid''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The evidence of a large impact crater can be found in rocks of the [[Yucatán]] Peninsula of the supposed age of this layer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/0307_030307_impactcrater.html &amp;quot;Dinosaur-Killer&amp;quot; Asteroid Crater Imaged for First Time], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/education/events/cowen1b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creationists assert that the assumptions underpinning the methods used by modern geologists are incorrect, and even though the validity of a large impact is accepted, this does not consitute proof that the impact caused the extinction of the dinosaurs&amp;amp;mdash;although the abundance of dinosaur fossils in rocks found higher in the rock layers than the impact is drastically less than their abundance in rocks lower down.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====An Explosion of new species ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionists speculate that a mass extinction of the dinosaurs removed a major food competitor, and predator, of smaller animals.  As a result of a new &amp;quot;vacancy&amp;quot; in the food chain, following the [[K-T Event]], it is theorized that vast speciation occurred, as the evolutionary pressure of a new cold age propelled animal species to adapt or die out.  According to this view, [[mammals]] were some of the main beneficiaries of this explosion: their fur allowed them to adapt to the cold, and their small size allowed them to conserve energy relative to the huge dinosaurs of the previous age.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bennet, Shostak, Jakotsky, &amp;quot;Life in the Universe,&amp;quot; viewable at [http://www.amazon.com/Life-Universe-Jeffrey-Bennett/dp/0805385770]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dinosaurs and Birds====&lt;br /&gt;
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As a number of feathered fossils (claimed to be dinosaurs) have been discovered, and evolutionary scientists claim the similarity in the bone structure between birds and dinosaurs show that modern birds are a descendants of dinosaurs.  This is often cited as an example of [[macroevolution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1006_041006_feathery_dino.html New Dinosaur Discovered: T. Rex Cousin Had Feathers], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dinosaur fossils and Human Fossils and Geological Strata ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some evolutionary scientists assert that if human bones aren’t found with dinosaur bones, then dinosaurs and man didn’t live together.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hodge, Bodie, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n1/humans-and-dinosaurs If humans and dinosaurs lived together, why don’t we find human fossils with dinosaur fossils?] ''Answers'' 1(1):52, May 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710.html Claim CH710] (The TalkOrigins Archive)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creation scientists point out that this is a false assumption; if human bones aren’t found buried with dinosaur bones, it simply means they weren't buried together.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionists speculate that [[radiometric dating]] of rocks containing dinosaur bones indicates them to have formed between 65 million years ago and 250 million years ago, whereas rocks with human bones in them are dated as being much newer (less than 5 million years old). Creation science shows that those methods of dating rocks provide false results,{{citation needed}} and therefore reject this argument.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science points out that the fossil record contains mainly marine organisms and that a small sliver of the fossil record contains vertebrates and thus shows that we shouldn't expect to find many human fossils at all.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Moreover, as the biblical [[Great Flood|Flood]] would be a marine catastrophe, it would be expected that marine fossils would dominate the fossil record.  This is in fact what we find.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;NAB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hodge, Bodie, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/pdfs/SampleChapter/10-2-267.pdf Why Don’t We Find Human &amp;amp; Dinosaur Fossils Together?] (chapter 13 of the New Answers Book), 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Approximately 70% of the Earth is covered in salt water which would also explain the dominance of marine fossils. In addition, creation scientists show there may have been a small pre-flood human population and that massive amounts of flood sediment are why we haven’t found human fossils in pre-biblical flood sediments.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;NAB&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Also, creation scientists point out that we don't find human bones buried with [[coelacanth]]s yet humans and coelacanths coexist today.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
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===''[[Saurischia]]''===&lt;br /&gt;
Herbivorous species were almost all quadrupedal.  They carried peg-like teeth which cut, rather than chewed, plant material; grinding of food was aided by gastroliths.  Carnivorous species were exclusively bipedal. &lt;br /&gt;
*Sauropoda&lt;br /&gt;
::Species of this infraorder are characterized by long necks and tails, barrel-shaped bodies, and column-like legs.  In three families (notably Diplodocidae, Brachiosauridae, and Titanosauroidea) there are species which are of extreme size, in excess of 125 feet in length and 100 tons, making them the largest animals to have walked the earth.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Apatosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Brachiosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ultrasaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Seismosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Argentinosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Diplodocus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
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*Theropoda&lt;br /&gt;
::Exclusively bipedal; forearms meant for grasping or holding.  Fossil evidence for several species indicate pack hunting. &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Coelophysis]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ornithomimus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Allosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Tyrannosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Deinonychus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Velociraptor]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Giganotosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===''[[Ornithischia]]''===&lt;br /&gt;
Species of this group were all herbivorous; most were quadrupedal.  Front teeth were lacking, while a predentary bone was present in the front of the lower jaw.  Several species (mainly within ''Ceratopsia'') had a distinctive parrot-like beak.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ceratopsia&lt;br /&gt;
::Species of this infraorder carried one or more horns on their heads, as well as a shield-like frill to protect the neck.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Triceratops]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Pachyrhinosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Torosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Protoceratops]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Styracosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
*Stegosauria&lt;br /&gt;
::Large dinosaurs with a row of bony plates on top of their backs, and several spikes used as a defensive weapon at the end of their tails.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Stegosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Huayangosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Kentrosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*Ankylosauria&lt;br /&gt;
::Heavily-armored dinosaurs, some with a row of spikes along each side, and possessing a bony tail club.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ankylosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Euoplocephalus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Edmontonia]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
*Ornithopods&lt;br /&gt;
::Large, herd-dwelling dinosaurs that could run bipedaly.  Several species had a &amp;quot;boss&amp;quot; of bone on their heads (Pachycephalosaurs) which may have been used for head-butting similar to bighorn sheep; others a crest of bone (hadrosaurs) which may have been sound resonators. &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Camptosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Iguanodon]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Pachycephalosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Parasaurolophus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Edmontosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Bactrosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Maiasaura]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Popular Culture ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Flintstones]] depicts humans and dinosaurs coexisting.  While the cartoon is comedic in nature, it is accurate in that early man would have used dinosaurs as beasts of burden.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Dinosaurs''' are usually believed to be extinct animals ranging in size from a few ounces to some of the largest land animals ever to exist.  &lt;br /&gt;
The word ''dinosaur'' was coined in 1841 by [[Richard Owen]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Grigg, Russell, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/1956/ Dinosaurs and dragons: stamping on the legends], ''Creation''&lt;br /&gt;
14(3):10–14, June 1992&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, from the Greek words for &amp;quot;terrible lizard&amp;quot;, and reflected the creatures' large size and fearsome appearance to the early paleontologists.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Highlights of the history of dinosaur paleontology==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Osborn.jpg‎‎|200px|thumb|right|[[Henry Fairfield Osborn]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the United States during the 1900s, the public imagination was caught by the discoveries of [[Henry Fairfield Osborn]] (1857-1935) and the great competitive dinosaur hunters, Edward Drinker Cope (1847-1897) and Othniel Charles Marsh (1831-1899). Exploring in Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico, they found numerous fossil dinosaurs. Their museums worked out the techniques for mounting and displaying them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dinosaur Species==&lt;br /&gt;
Dinosaurs were immensely varied, and included both herbivores and carnivores.  Although many have been found in the fossil record, paleontologists expect that they have barely scratched the surface of the vast superorder that the dinosaurs encompassed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060905-dinosaurs_2.html Vast Majority of Dinosaurs Still to Be Found, Scientists Say], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===History of dinosuars===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Michelangeloflood.jpg|thumb|250px|left|''The [[Great Flood|Flood]]'', by [[Michaelangelo]], detail from the [[Sistine Chapel]], 1509.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Creation science]] asserts that the biblical account, that dinosaurs were created on day 6 of [[creation]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Genesis'' 1:25&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; approximately  [[Counterexamples to an Old Earth|6,000 years ago]], along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus [[Counterexamples to Evolution|debunking the Theory of Evolution]] and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age of the earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science shows that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably including in the [[Garden of Eden]]) eating only plants&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Genesis'' 1:29-30&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; that pairs of each dinosaur [[kind]] were taken onto [[Noah's Ark]] during the [[Great Flood]] and were preserved from drowning&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3967/ Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carl Wieland, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/219/ Dinosaur bones—just how old are they really?], ''Creation'', vol. 21 No. 1 p. 54&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; and that possibly some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.&amp;lt;ref Name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Robert Doolan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/833/ Are dinosaurs alive today?], ''Creation'', vol. 15 No. 4 p. 12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Archaeological]], [[fossil]], and documentary evidence supports the [[faith and science|logical]] conclusion that dinosaurs co-existed with mankind until at least relatively recent times.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the [[Bible]] does not use the word &amp;quot;dinosaur.&amp;quot;  However, there are numerous references throughout the biblical account. For example, the [[behemoth]] in [[Job]]  and the [[leviathan]] in [[Isaiah]] are clearly references to dinosaurs,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Allan K. Steel, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1799 Could Behemoth have been a dinosaur?], ''Journal of Creation'' vol. 15 No. 2 p. 42.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.answersincreation.org/job4041a.htm], ''Answers in Creation''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although others have claimed that Behemoth and Leviathan are references to a hippopotamus or elephant and a crocodile respectively.  However, the Biblical descriptions do not fit those creatures, note that hippopotamuses and elephants do not have a &amp;quot;tail like a cedar&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Extinction ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science rejects the &amp;quot;Great Impact Theory&amp;quot;, pointing out multiple problems with this theory. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jonathan Sarfati, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2426 Did a meteor wipe out the dinosaurs?].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science shows that evolutionists are frequently coming out with a &amp;quot;New Theory of Dinosaur Extinction&amp;quot; and that their theories are laden with false assumptions. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Matthews, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1115dinosaur.asp Dinosaur demise theory, version #451], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dinosaur-like creatures in history and modern sightings====&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science cites a number of reasons to believe that dinosaurs have existed until relatively recent times, and perhaps still survive.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AZ_RockArtDino1a.jpg‎|right|150|thumb|right|Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which he claimed portrays dinosaurs and man coexisting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* There have been a number of sightings of dinosaur-like creatures reported by the [[best of the public]].&lt;br /&gt;
** A thousand people reported seeing a dinosaur-like monster in two sightings around Sayram Lake in Xinjiang according to the Chinese publication, China Today.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Locals in the Congo have reported a creature they name ''Mokele-mbembe''&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mokelembembe.com/ Mokele-mbembe The Living Dinosaur!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and from its description it appears to be a small plant-eating dinosaur.  The reports have been taken seriously enough that a biologist from the [[University of Chicago]] has made several expeditions to find the creature.  Another biologist has reported seeing the creature.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Dinosaur-like creatures have been seen by several people in two different parts of [[Papua New Guinea]] since 1990.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Anon., [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/381 A living dinosaur?], ''Creation'' 23(1):56, December 2000.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Irwin, Brian, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5847 Theropod and sauropod dinosaurs sighted in PNG?] 1st July, 2008 (Creation Ministries International).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* There are drawings of creatures resembling dinosaurs.&lt;br /&gt;
** An expedition which included Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which he claimed portrays dinosaurs and man coexisting.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationism.org/swift/DohenyExpedition/Doheny01Main.htm Doheny Scientific Expedition, Hava Supai Canyon, Arizona], ''Creationism.org''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/read/the_hava_supai_dinosaur_carving The Hava Supai Dinosaur Carving], ''ChristianCourier.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina, a second century BC piece of art, contains a portion which depicts a group of Ethiopians hunting what some claim appears to be a dinosaur; there is much debate on this, however, and most modern art historians consider the mysterious animal to be a lion or a crocodile (the latter theory is supported by the presence of the Greek word for &amp;quot;crocodile&amp;quot; written near the image of the mysterious animal). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.s8int.com/dinolit2.html Dinosaurs in Literature, Art &amp;amp; History-- Page 2], ''s8int.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Palestrina1.jpg|right|thumb|A portion of the [[Nile Mosaic of Palestrina]], depicting the hunting of an animal which is often said to resemble a dinosaur (but which appears to be labelled &amp;quot;crocodile&amp;quot; in Greek).]] &lt;br /&gt;
** Engravings in the floor of Carlisle Cathedral appear to be of dinosaurs.  They are on the tomb of bishop Richard Bell, who died in 1496.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See picture on page 241 of Batten, Don, et. al., 2007, ''The Creation Answers Book''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Creatures matching dinosaurs and similar creatures have been described by various people groups.&lt;br /&gt;
** The description of the &amp;quot;[[Thunder bird]]&amp;quot; of [[American Indian]]s matches the descriptions of [[pterosaur]]s.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Descriptions of [[dragon]]s are widespread and match descriptions of dinosaurs, showing that dragons were real creatures and were actua very likely dinosaurs.&lt;br /&gt;
** The World Book Encyclopedia states that: &amp;quot;The [[dragon]]s of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Quoted in [http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ25.html What about the Dinosaurs?], ''CreationScience.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Dragons exist in the folklore of many European and Asian cultures.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;WB2000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''Dragon'' entry in World Book Millennium 2000 CD ROM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  World Book Encyclopedia says, &amp;quot;In Europe, dragons are traditionally portrayed as ferocious beasts that represent the evils fought by human beings.  But in Asia, especially in China and Japan, the animals are generally considered friendly creatures that ensure good luck and wealth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref Name=&amp;quot;WB2000&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Dragons appear in the flag of [[Wales]], in traditional [[China|Chinese]] New Years' Day celebrations, and in the Chinese [[calendar]].  Every other creature on the calendar is a real creature.&lt;br /&gt;
* That dinosaurs are not known from the fossil record above the [[Cretaceous]] strata is not reason to believe that they have not survived until more recent times.&lt;br /&gt;
** Living specimens of orders of animals that were believed to have been extinct for millions of years have been found before, such as the Diatomyidae Squirrel &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Diatomyidae]] Squirrel [http://news.softpedia.com/news/They-Thought-It-Went-Extinct-11-Million-Years-Ago-19557.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the Wollemi Pine &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wollemi Pine ''Biotechnology Australia'' [http://www.biotechnologyonline.gov.au/enviro/wollemi.cfm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the [[Coelacanth]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sulawesi Coelacanth. ''University Of California, Berkeley''[http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vertebrates/coelacanth/coelacanths.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;More on the Coelacanth ''marinebio.org''[http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=54]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some believe the [[Loch Ness Monster]] to be a [[Plesiosaur]].{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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* The recent dinosaur tissue find is a strong rebuttal of the claim that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carl Wieland, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3042 Still soft and stretchy], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- The Coelacanth are from a group that had previously been thought to have rudimentary limbs and so be the ancestor of land creatures, but this idea was dropped when living Coelacanths were discovered.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/coelacanth.html Coelacanth: the world’s oldest fish?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Biologists see this as merely a minor adjustment to the story of evolution. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Dinosaurs and birds ====&lt;br /&gt;
Creation science shows that the idea that birds are descendants of dinosaurs is not demonstrated by the evidence &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3833/106/ Bird evolution?], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Andy McIntosh, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/540/ 100 years of airplanes—but these weren’t the first flying machines!], ''Creation'' vol. 26 No. 1 p. 44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and that the dinosaur-bird connection is even disputed by some evolutionists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his article, &amp;quot;Fifteen ways to refute materialistic bigotry&amp;quot;, Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]] wrote regarding dinosaurs being descendants of birds:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“The same logic applies to the dinosaur-[[bird]] debate. It is perfectly in order for creationists to cite [[Alan Feduccia|Feduccia]]’s devastating criticism against the idea that birds evolved ‘ground up’ from running dinosaurs (the cursorial theory). But the dino-to-bird advocates counter with equally powerful arguments against Feduccia’s ‘trees-down’ (arboreal) theory. The evidence indicates that the critics are ''both'' right — birds did not evolve either from running dinos or from tree-living mini-crocodiles. In fact, birds did not evolve from non-birds at all!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jonathan Sarfati, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2610 15 ways to refute materialistic bigotry], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science also cites the evolutionist and [[atheism|atheist]] [[Ernst Mayr]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Matthews, Michael, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/1208mayr.asp 99 and still fighting God], 8th December, 2003 (Answers in Genesis).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who stated the following:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“It must be admitted, however, that it is a considerable strain on one’s credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird’s feather) could be improved by random mutations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ReferencesandNotes10.html In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood], ''Center for Scientific Creation''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The March 2003 issue of ''Scientific American'' is also cited by creation scientists:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Of all the body coverings nature has designed, feathers are the most various and the most mysterious...The origin of feathers is a specific instance of the much more general question of the origin of evolutionary novelties--structures that have no clear antecedents in ancestral animals and no clear related structures (homologues) in contemporary relatives. Although evolutionary theory provides a robust explanation for the appearance of minor variations in the size and shape of creatures and their component parts, it does not yet give as much guidance for understanding the emergence of entirely new structures, including digits, limbs, eyes and feathers....&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Matthews, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0313sciam.asp Scientific American admits creationists hit a sore spot], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000CD7F6-B16F-1E41-89E0809EC588EEDF Which Came First, the Feather or the Bird?], ''Scientific American''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science also shows that the comparative anatomy analysis done by evolutionists comparing bird bones and dinosaur bones is flawed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dr. David N. Menton, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0328discovery.asp &amp;quot;Ostrich-osaurus&amp;quot; Discovery?], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Evolutionary/Old Earth Perspective===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PzMyers2.jpg|thumbnail|251px|right|There is excellent evidence that dinosaurs and man coexisted.  During a visit to the [[Creation Museum]], the evolutionist and [[atheism|atheist]] [[PZ Myers]] had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQl2TMrgbM VIDEO] See also: [[Atheism and obesity]] and [[Evolutionists who have had problems with being overweight and/or obese]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The view of [[atheism|atheists]], evolutionists  and others who accept the uniformitarian timescale is that dinosaurs existed on earth from 230 million years ago to 65 million years ago. In this view, the entire population of dinosaurs were wiped out by a mass extinction event (usually thought to be a meteorite) about 65 million years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
This precludes humans and dinosaurs co-existing. &lt;br /&gt;
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====Extinction====&lt;br /&gt;
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According to evolutionists, close to 65 million years ago, at the end of the [[Cretaceous]] period, and the beginning of what is called the [[Tertiary]] period, an event occurred which has come to be known as the [[K-T Event]].  This event would have obliterated most life on Earth, plunging the world into something that would now be likened to global nuclear winter, through which few extant species could survive.  Although these scientists dispute the nature of the K-T Event (selecting among any number of catastrophes that could have caused the significant global cooling that resulted), most find that the claimed K-T Event was caused by the collision of a massive asteroid with the Earth, the dust and debris from which would have shrouded the sky for thousands of years, cooling Earth considerably.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kevin O Pope, &amp;quot;Meteorite impact and the mass extinction of species at the Cretaceous/Tertiary boundary,&amp;quot; Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, available at [http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/19/11028]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to this view, the dinosaurs did not survive this cataclysm.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0823_020823_asteroid.html Prehistoric Asteroid &amp;quot;Killed Everything&amp;quot;], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A layer of rock containing high concentrations&amp;lt;!-- &amp;quot;High&amp;quot;, or just &amp;quot;higher than normal&amp;quot;? --&amp;gt; of [[Iridium]], a metal that is extremely rare on earth but common in asteroids, is said to be due to the vaporization and then fall of dust from the meteorite's impact, and its compression within the subsequent geological record.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Ibid''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The evidence of a large impact crater can be found in rocks of the [[Yucatán]] Peninsula of the supposed age of this layer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/0307_030307_impactcrater.html &amp;quot;Dinosaur-Killer&amp;quot; Asteroid Crater Imaged for First Time], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/education/events/cowen1b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creationists assert that the assumptions underpinning the methods used by modern geologists are incorrect, and even though the validity of a large impact is accepted, this does not consitute proof that the impact caused the extinction of the dinosaurs&amp;amp;mdash;although the abundance of dinosaur fossils in rocks found higher in the rock layers than the impact is drastically less than their abundance in rocks lower down.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====An Explosion of new species ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionists speculate that a mass extinction of the dinosaurs removed a major food competitor, and predator, of smaller animals.  As a result of a new &amp;quot;vacancy&amp;quot; in the food chain, following the [[K-T Event]], it is theorized that vast speciation occurred, as the evolutionary pressure of a new cold age propelled animal species to adapt or die out.  According to this view, [[mammals]] were some of the main beneficiaries of this explosion: their fur allowed them to adapt to the cold, and their small size allowed them to conserve energy relative to the huge dinosaurs of the previous age.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bennet, Shostak, Jakotsky, &amp;quot;Life in the Universe,&amp;quot; viewable at [http://www.amazon.com/Life-Universe-Jeffrey-Bennett/dp/0805385770]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dinosaurs and Birds====&lt;br /&gt;
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As a number of feathered fossils (claimed to be dinosaurs) have been discovered, and evolutionary scientists claim the similarity in the bone structure between birds and dinosaurs show that modern birds are a descendants of dinosaurs.  This is often cited as an example of [[macroevolution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1006_041006_feathery_dino.html New Dinosaur Discovered: T. Rex Cousin Had Feathers], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dinosaur fossils and Human Fossils and Geological Strata ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some evolutionary scientists assert that if human bones aren’t found with dinosaur bones, then dinosaurs and man didn’t live together.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hodge, Bodie, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n1/humans-and-dinosaurs If humans and dinosaurs lived together, why don’t we find human fossils with dinosaur fossils?] ''Answers'' 1(1):52, May 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710.html Claim CH710] (The TalkOrigins Archive)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creation scientists point out that this is a false assumption; if human bones aren’t found buried with dinosaur bones, it simply means they weren't buried together.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionists speculate that [[radiometric dating]] of rocks containing dinosaur bones indicates them to have formed between 65 million years ago and 250 million years ago, whereas rocks with human bones in them are dated as being much newer (less than 5 million years old). Creation science shows that those methods of dating rocks provide false results,{{citation needed}} and therefore reject this argument.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science points out that the fossil record contains mainly marine organisms and that a small sliver of the fossil record contains vertebrates and thus shows that we shouldn't expect to find many human fossils at all.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Moreover, as the biblical [[Great Flood|Flood]] would be a marine catastrophe, it would be expected that marine fossils would dominate the fossil record.  This is in fact what we find.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;NAB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hodge, Bodie, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/pdfs/SampleChapter/10-2-267.pdf Why Don’t We Find Human &amp;amp; Dinosaur Fossils Together?] (chapter 13 of the New Answers Book), 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Approximately 70% of the Earth is covered in salt water which would also explain the dominance of marine fossils. In addition, creation scientists show there may have been a small pre-flood human population and that massive amounts of flood sediment are why we haven’t found human fossils in pre-biblical flood sediments.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;NAB&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Also, creation scientists point out that we don't find human bones buried with [[coelacanth]]s yet humans and coelacanths coexist today.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===''[[Saurischia]]''===&lt;br /&gt;
Herbivorous species were almost all quadrupedal.  They carried peg-like teeth which cut, rather than chewed, plant material; grinding of food was aided by gastroliths.  Carnivorous species were exclusively bipedal. &lt;br /&gt;
*Sauropoda&lt;br /&gt;
::Species of this infraorder are characterized by long necks and tails, barrel-shaped bodies, and column-like legs.  In three families (notably Diplodocidae, Brachiosauridae, and Titanosauroidea) there are species which are of extreme size, in excess of 125 feet in length and 100 tons, making them the largest animals to have walked the earth.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Apatosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Brachiosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ultrasaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Seismosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Argentinosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Diplodocus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
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*Theropoda&lt;br /&gt;
::Exclusively bipedal; forearms meant for grasping or holding.  Fossil evidence for several species indicate pack hunting. &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Coelophysis]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ornithomimus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Allosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Tyrannosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Deinonychus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Velociraptor]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Giganotosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Species of this group were all herbivorous; most were quadrupedal.  Front teeth were lacking, while a predentary bone was present in the front of the lower jaw.  Several species (mainly within ''Ceratopsia'') had a distinctive parrot-like beak.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ceratopsia&lt;br /&gt;
::Species of this infraorder carried one or more horns on their heads, as well as a shield-like frill to protect the neck.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Triceratops]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Pachyrhinosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Torosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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:::''[[Styracosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
*Stegosauria&lt;br /&gt;
::Large dinosaurs with a row of bony plates on top of their backs, and several spikes used as a defensive weapon at the end of their tails.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Stegosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Huayangosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Kentrosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*Ankylosauria&lt;br /&gt;
::Heavily-armored dinosaurs, some with a row of spikes along each side, and possessing a bony tail club.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ankylosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Euoplocephalus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Edmontonia]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
*Ornithopods&lt;br /&gt;
::Large, herd-dwelling dinosaurs that could run bipedaly.  Several species had a &amp;quot;boss&amp;quot; of bone on their heads (Pachycephalosaurs) which may have been used for head-butting similar to bighorn sheep; others a crest of bone (hadrosaurs) which may have been sound resonators. &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Camptosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Iguanodon]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Pachycephalosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Parasaurolophus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Edmontosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Bactrosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Maiasaura]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Popular Culture ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Flintstones]] depicts humans and dinosaurs coexisting.  While the cartoon is comedic in nature, it is accurate in that early man would have used dinosaurs as beasts of burden.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Dinosaurs''' are usually believed to be extinct animals ranging in size from a few ounces to some of the largest land animals ever to exist.  &lt;br /&gt;
The word ''dinosaur'' was coined in 1841 by [[Richard Owen]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Grigg, Russell, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/1956/ Dinosaurs and dragons: stamping on the legends], ''Creation''&lt;br /&gt;
14(3):10–14, June 1992&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, from the Greek words for &amp;quot;terrible lizard&amp;quot;, and reflected the creatures' large size and fearsome appearance to the early paleontologists.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Highlights of the history of dinosaur paleontology==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Osborn.jpg‎‎|200px|thumb|right|[[Henry Fairfield Osborn]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
In the United States during the 1900s, the public imagination was caught by the discoveries of [[Henry Fairfield Osborn]] (1857-1935) and the great competitive dinosaur hunters, Edward Drinker Cope (1847-1897) and Othniel Charles Marsh (1831-1899). Exploring in Wyoming, Colorado, and New Mexico, they found numerous fossil dinosaurs. Their museums worked out the techniques for mounting and displaying them.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dinosaur Species==&lt;br /&gt;
Dinosaurs were immensely varied, and included both herbivores and carnivores.  Although many have been found in the fossil record, paleontologists expect that they have barely scratched the surface of the vast superorder that the dinosaurs encompassed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060905-dinosaurs_2.html Vast Majority of Dinosaurs Still to Be Found, Scientists Say], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===History of dinosuars===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Michelangeloflood.jpg|thumb|250px|left|''The [[Great Flood|Flood]]'', by [[Michaelangelo]], detail from the [[Sistine Chapel]], 1509.]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Creation science]] asserts that the biblical account, that dinosaurs were created on day 6 of [[creation]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Genesis'' 1:25&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; approximately  [[Counterexamples to an Old Earth|6,000 years ago]], along with other land animals, and therefore co-existed with humans, thus [[Counterexamples to Evolution|debunking the Theory of Evolution]] and the beliefs of evolutionary scientists about the age of the earth.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science shows that dinosaurs lived in harmony with other animals, (probably including in the [[Garden of Eden]]) eating only plants&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Genesis'' 1:29-30&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; that pairs of each dinosaur [[kind]] were taken onto [[Noah's Ark]] during the [[Great Flood]] and were preserved from drowning&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3967/ Were dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark?], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; that many of the fossilized dinosaur bones originated during the mass killing of the Flood&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carl Wieland, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/219/ Dinosaur bones—just how old are they really?], ''Creation'', vol. 21 No. 1 p. 54&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;; and that possibly some descendants of those dinosaurs taken aboard the Ark are still around today.&amp;lt;ref Name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Robert Doolan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/833/ Are dinosaurs alive today?], ''Creation'', vol. 15 No. 4 p. 12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Archaeological]], [[fossil]], and documentary evidence supports the [[faith and science|logical]] conclusion that dinosaurs co-existed with mankind until at least relatively recent times.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the [[Bible]] does not use the word &amp;quot;dinosaur.&amp;quot;  However, there are numerous references throughout the biblical account. For example, the [[behemoth]] in [[Job]]  and the [[leviathan]] in [[Isaiah]] are clearly references to dinosaurs,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Allan K. Steel, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1799 Could Behemoth have been a dinosaur?], ''Journal of Creation'' vol. 15 No. 2 p. 42.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.answersincreation.org/job4041a.htm], ''Answers in Creation''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; although others have claimed that Behemoth and Leviathan are references to a hippopotamus or elephant and a crocodile respectively.  However, the Biblical descriptions do not fit those creatures, note that hippopotamuses and elephants do not have a &amp;quot;tail like a cedar&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Extinction ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science rejects the &amp;quot;Great Impact Theory&amp;quot;, pointing out multiple problems with this theory. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jonathan Sarfati, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2426 Did a meteor wipe out the dinosaurs?].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science shows that evolutionists are frequently coming out with a &amp;quot;New Theory of Dinosaur Extinction&amp;quot; and that their theories are laden with false assumptions. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Matthews, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2002/1115dinosaur.asp Dinosaur demise theory, version #451], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dinosaur-like creatures in history and modern sightings====&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science cites a number of reasons to believe that dinosaurs have existed until relatively recent times, and perhaps still survive.&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:AZ_RockArtDino1a.jpg‎|right|150|thumb|right|Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which he claimed portrays dinosaurs and man coexisting]]&lt;br /&gt;
* There have been a number of sightings of dinosaur-like creatures reported by the [[best of the public]].&lt;br /&gt;
** A thousand people reported seeing a dinosaur-like monster in two sightings around Sayram Lake in Xinjiang according to the Chinese publication, China Today.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Locals in the Congo have reported a creature they name ''Mokele-mbembe''&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.mokelembembe.com/ Mokele-mbembe The Living Dinosaur!]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and from its description it appears to be a small plant-eating dinosaur.  The reports have been taken seriously enough that a biologist from the [[University of Chicago]] has made several expeditions to find the creature.  Another biologist has reported seeing the creature.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Dinosaur-like creatures have been seen by several people in two different parts of [[Papua New Guinea]] since 1990.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Anon., [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/381 A living dinosaur?], ''Creation'' 23(1):56, December 2000.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Irwin, Brian, [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5847 Theropod and sauropod dinosaurs sighted in PNG?] 1st July, 2008 (Creation Ministries International).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* There are drawings of creatures resembling dinosaurs.&lt;br /&gt;
** An expedition which included Charles W. Gilmore, Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology with the United States National Museum, examined an ancient pictograph which he claimed portrays dinosaurs and man coexisting.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationism.org/swift/DohenyExpedition/Doheny01Main.htm Doheny Scientific Expedition, Hava Supai Canyon, Arizona], ''Creationism.org''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/read/the_hava_supai_dinosaur_carving The Hava Supai Dinosaur Carving], ''ChristianCourier.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
** The Nile Mosaic of Palestrina, a second century BC piece of art, contains a portion which depicts a group of Ethiopians hunting what some claim appears to be a dinosaur; there is much debate on this, however, and most modern art historians consider the mysterious animal to be a lion or a crocodile (the latter theory is supported by the presence of the Greek word for &amp;quot;crocodile&amp;quot; written near the image of the mysterious animal). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.s8int.com/dinolit2.html Dinosaurs in Literature, Art &amp;amp; History-- Page 2], ''s8int.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Palestrina1.jpg|right|thumb|A portion of the [[Nile Mosaic of Palestrina]], depicting the hunting of an animal which is often said to resemble a dinosaur (but which appears to be labelled &amp;quot;crocodile&amp;quot; in Greek).]] &lt;br /&gt;
** Engravings in the floor of Carlisle Cathedral appear to be of dinosaurs.  They are on the tomb of bishop Richard Bell, who died in 1496.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See picture on page 241 of Batten, Don, et. al., 2007, ''The Creation Answers Book''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Creatures matching dinosaurs and similar creatures have been described by various people groups.&lt;br /&gt;
** The description of the &amp;quot;[[Thunder bird]]&amp;quot; of [[American Indian]]s matches the descriptions of [[pterosaur]]s.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Descriptions of [[dragon]]s are widespread and match descriptions of dinosaurs, showing that dragons were real creatures and were actua very likely dinosaurs.&lt;br /&gt;
** The World Book Encyclopedia states that: &amp;quot;The [[dragon]]s of legend are strangely like actual creatures that have lived in the past. They are much like the great reptiles [dinosaurs] which inhabited the earth long before man is supposed to have appeared on earth.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Quoted in [http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/FAQ25.html What about the Dinosaurs?], ''CreationScience.com''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  Dragons exist in the folklore of many European and Asian cultures.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;WB2000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;''Dragon'' entry in World Book Millennium 2000 CD ROM&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  World Book Encyclopedia says, &amp;quot;In Europe, dragons are traditionally portrayed as ferocious beasts that represent the evils fought by human beings.  But in Asia, especially in China and Japan, the animals are generally considered friendly creatures that ensure good luck and wealth.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref Name=&amp;quot;WB2000&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
** Dragons appear in the flag of [[Wales]], in traditional [[China|Chinese]] New Years' Day celebrations, and in the Chinese [[calendar]].  Every other creature on the calendar is a real creature.&lt;br /&gt;
* That dinosaurs are not known from the fossil record above the [[Cretaceous]] strata is not reason to believe that they have not survived until more recent times.&lt;br /&gt;
** Living specimens of orders of animals that were believed to have been extinct for millions of years have been found before, such as the Diatomyidae Squirrel &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Diatomyidae]] Squirrel [http://news.softpedia.com/news/They-Thought-It-Went-Extinct-11-Million-Years-Ago-19557.shtml]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, the Wollemi Pine &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Wollemi Pine ''Biotechnology Australia'' [http://www.biotechnologyonline.gov.au/enviro/wollemi.cfm]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and the [[Coelacanth]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sulawesi Coelacanth. ''University Of California, Berkeley''[http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/vertebrates/coelacanth/coelacanths.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;More on the Coelacanth ''marinebio.org''[http://marinebio.org/species.asp?id=54]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
*Some believe the [[Loch Ness Monster]] to be a [[Plesiosaur]].&lt;br /&gt;
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* The recent dinosaur tissue find is a strong rebuttal of the claim that dinosaurs lived millions of years ago. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carl Wieland, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3042 Still soft and stretchy], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;!-- The Coelacanth are from a group that had previously been thought to have rudimentary limbs and so be the ancestor of land creatures, but this idea was dropped when living Coelacanths were discovered.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.users.bigpond.com/rdoolan/coelacanth.html Coelacanth: the world’s oldest fish?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Biologists see this as merely a minor adjustment to the story of evolution. --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Dinosaurs and birds ====&lt;br /&gt;
Creation science shows that the idea that birds are descendants of dinosaurs is not demonstrated by the evidence &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3833/106/ Bird evolution?], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Andy McIntosh, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/540/ 100 years of airplanes—but these weren’t the first flying machines!], ''Creation'' vol. 26 No. 1 p. 44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, and that the dinosaur-bird connection is even disputed by some evolutionists.&lt;br /&gt;
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In his article, &amp;quot;Fifteen ways to refute materialistic bigotry&amp;quot;, Dr. [[Jonathan Sarfati]] wrote regarding dinosaurs being descendants of birds:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“The same logic applies to the dinosaur-[[bird]] debate. It is perfectly in order for creationists to cite [[Alan Feduccia|Feduccia]]’s devastating criticism against the idea that birds evolved ‘ground up’ from running dinosaurs (the cursorial theory). But the dino-to-bird advocates counter with equally powerful arguments against Feduccia’s ‘trees-down’ (arboreal) theory. The evidence indicates that the critics are ''both'' right — birds did not evolve either from running dinos or from tree-living mini-crocodiles. In fact, birds did not evolve from non-birds at all!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jonathan Sarfati, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/2610 15 ways to refute materialistic bigotry], ''Creation Ministries International''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science also cites the evolutionist and [[atheism|atheist]] [[Ernst Mayr]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Matthews, Michael, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/1208mayr.asp 99 and still fighting God], 8th December, 2003 (Answers in Genesis).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; who stated the following:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|“It must be admitted, however, that it is a considerable strain on one’s credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird’s feather) could be improved by random mutations.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ReferencesandNotes10.html In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood], ''Center for Scientific Creation''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The March 2003 issue of ''Scientific American'' is also cited by creation scientists:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Of all the body coverings nature has designed, feathers are the most various and the most mysterious...The origin of feathers is a specific instance of the much more general question of the origin of evolutionary novelties--structures that have no clear antecedents in ancestral animals and no clear related structures (homologues) in contemporary relatives. Although evolutionary theory provides a robust explanation for the appearance of minor variations in the size and shape of creatures and their component parts, it does not yet give as much guidance for understanding the emergence of entirely new structures, including digits, limbs, eyes and feathers....&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael Matthews, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0313sciam.asp Scientific American admits creationists hit a sore spot], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000CD7F6-B16F-1E41-89E0809EC588EEDF Which Came First, the Feather or the Bird?], ''Scientific American''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science also shows that the comparative anatomy analysis done by evolutionists comparing bird bones and dinosaur bones is flawed. &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dr. David N. Menton, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2005/0328discovery.asp &amp;quot;Ostrich-osaurus&amp;quot; Discovery?], ''Answers in Genesis''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Evolutionary/Old Earth Perspective===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:PzMyers2.jpg|thumbnail|251px|right|There is excellent evidence that dinosaurs and man coexisted.  During a visit to the [[Creation Museum]], the evolutionist and [[atheism|atheist]] [[PZ Myers]] had noticeably greater difficulty than others climbing on and off a dinosaur model due to the fact that he was overweight and out of shape.[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQQl2TMrgbM VIDEO] See also: [[Atheism and obesity]] and [[Evolutionists who have had problems with being overweight and/or obese]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The view of [[atheism|atheists]], evolutionists  and others who accept the uniformitarian timescale is that dinosaurs existed on earth from 230 million years ago to 65 million years ago. In this view, the entire population of dinosaurs were wiped out by a mass extinction event (usually thought to be a meteorite) about 65 million years ago.&lt;br /&gt;
This precludes humans and dinosaurs co-existing. &lt;br /&gt;
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====Extinction====&lt;br /&gt;
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According to evolutionists, close to 65 million years ago, at the end of the [[Cretaceous]] period, and the beginning of what is called the [[Tertiary]] period, an event occurred which has come to be known as the [[K-T Event]].  This event would have obliterated most life on Earth, plunging the world into something that would now be likened to global nuclear winter, through which few extant species could survive.  Although these scientists dispute the nature of the K-T Event (selecting among any number of catastrophes that could have caused the significant global cooling that resulted), most find that the claimed K-T Event was caused by the collision of a massive asteroid with the Earth, the dust and debris from which would have shrouded the sky for thousands of years, cooling Earth considerably.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kevin O Pope, &amp;quot;Meteorite impact and the mass extinction of species at the Cretaceous/Tertiary boundary,&amp;quot; Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, available at [http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/19/11028]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to this view, the dinosaurs did not survive this cataclysm.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0823_020823_asteroid.html Prehistoric Asteroid &amp;quot;Killed Everything&amp;quot;], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A layer of rock containing high concentrations&amp;lt;!-- &amp;quot;High&amp;quot;, or just &amp;quot;higher than normal&amp;quot;? --&amp;gt; of [[Iridium]], a metal that is extremely rare on earth but common in asteroids, is said to be due to the vaporization and then fall of dust from the meteorite's impact, and its compression within the subsequent geological record.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Ibid''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;The evidence of a large impact crater can be found in rocks of the [[Yucatán]] Peninsula of the supposed age of this layer.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/0307_030307_impactcrater.html &amp;quot;Dinosaur-Killer&amp;quot; Asteroid Crater Imaged for First Time], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/education/events/cowen1b.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creationists assert that the assumptions underpinning the methods used by modern geologists are incorrect, and even though the validity of a large impact is accepted, this does not consitute proof that the impact caused the extinction of the dinosaurs&amp;amp;mdash;although the abundance of dinosaur fossils in rocks found higher in the rock layers than the impact is drastically less than their abundance in rocks lower down.{{fact}}&lt;br /&gt;
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====An Explosion of new species ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionists speculate that a mass extinction of the dinosaurs removed a major food competitor, and predator, of smaller animals.  As a result of a new &amp;quot;vacancy&amp;quot; in the food chain, following the [[K-T Event]], it is theorized that vast speciation occurred, as the evolutionary pressure of a new cold age propelled animal species to adapt or die out.  According to this view, [[mammals]] were some of the main beneficiaries of this explosion: their fur allowed them to adapt to the cold, and their small size allowed them to conserve energy relative to the huge dinosaurs of the previous age.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bennet, Shostak, Jakotsky, &amp;quot;Life in the Universe,&amp;quot; viewable at [http://www.amazon.com/Life-Universe-Jeffrey-Bennett/dp/0805385770]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Dinosaurs and Birds====&lt;br /&gt;
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As a number of feathered fossils (claimed to be dinosaurs) have been discovered, and evolutionary scientists claim the similarity in the bone structure between birds and dinosaurs show that modern birds are a descendants of dinosaurs.  This is often cited as an example of [[macroevolution]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1006_041006_feathery_dino.html New Dinosaur Discovered: T. Rex Cousin Had Feathers], ''National Geographic''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Dinosaur fossils and Human Fossils and Geological Strata ==&lt;br /&gt;
Some evolutionary scientists assert that if human bones aren’t found with dinosaur bones, then dinosaurs and man didn’t live together.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hodge, Bodie, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v1/n1/humans-and-dinosaurs If humans and dinosaurs lived together, why don’t we find human fossils with dinosaur fossils?] ''Answers'' 1(1):52, May 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CH/CH710.html Claim CH710] (The TalkOrigins Archive)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Creation scientists point out that this is a false assumption; if human bones aren’t found buried with dinosaur bones, it simply means they weren't buried together.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Evolutionists speculate that [[radiometric dating]] of rocks containing dinosaur bones indicates them to have formed between 65 million years ago and 250 million years ago, whereas rocks with human bones in them are dated as being much newer (less than 5 million years old). Creation science shows that those methods of dating rocks provide false results,{{citation needed}} and therefore reject this argument.&lt;br /&gt;
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Creation science points out that the fossil record contains mainly marine organisms and that a small sliver of the fossil record contains vertebrates and thus shows that we shouldn't expect to find many human fossils at all.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Moreover, as the biblical [[Great Flood|Flood]] would be a marine catastrophe, it would be expected that marine fossils would dominate the fossil record.  This is in fact what we find.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;NAB&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hodge, Bodie, [http://www.answersingenesis.org/PublicStore/pdfs/SampleChapter/10-2-267.pdf Why Don’t We Find Human &amp;amp; Dinosaur Fossils Together?] (chapter 13 of the New Answers Book), 2006.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Approximately 70% of the Earth is covered in salt water which would also explain the dominance of marine fossils. In addition, creation scientists show there may have been a small pre-flood human population and that massive amounts of flood sediment are why we haven’t found human fossils in pre-biblical flood sediments.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;NAB&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Also, creation scientists point out that we don't find human bones buried with [[coelacanth]]s yet humans and coelacanths coexist today.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;HaD&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Description==&lt;br /&gt;
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===''[[Saurischia]]''===&lt;br /&gt;
Herbivorous species were almost all quadrupedal.  They carried peg-like teeth which cut, rather than chewed, plant material; grinding of food was aided by gastroliths.  Carnivorous species were exclusively bipedal. &lt;br /&gt;
*Sauropoda&lt;br /&gt;
::Species of this infraorder are characterized by long necks and tails, barrel-shaped bodies, and column-like legs.  In three families (notably Diplodocidae, Brachiosauridae, and Titanosauroidea) there are species which are of extreme size, in excess of 125 feet in length and 100 tons, making them the largest animals to have walked the earth.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Apatosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Brachiosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ultrasaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Seismosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Argentinosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Diplodocus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
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*Theropoda&lt;br /&gt;
::Exclusively bipedal; forearms meant for grasping or holding.  Fossil evidence for several species indicate pack hunting. &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Coelophysis]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ornithomimus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Allosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Tyrannosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Deinonychus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Velociraptor]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Giganotosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===''[[Ornithischia]]''===&lt;br /&gt;
Species of this group were all herbivorous; most were quadrupedal.  Front teeth were lacking, while a predentary bone was present in the front of the lower jaw.  Several species (mainly within ''Ceratopsia'') had a distinctive parrot-like beak.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ceratopsia&lt;br /&gt;
::Species of this infraorder carried one or more horns on their heads, as well as a shield-like frill to protect the neck.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Triceratops]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Pachyrhinosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Torosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Protoceratops]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Styracosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
*Stegosauria&lt;br /&gt;
::Large dinosaurs with a row of bony plates on top of their backs, and several spikes used as a defensive weapon at the end of their tails.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Stegosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Huayangosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Kentrosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*Ankylosauria&lt;br /&gt;
::Heavily-armored dinosaurs, some with a row of spikes along each side, and possessing a bony tail club.&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Ankylosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Euoplocephalus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Edmontonia]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
*Ornithopods&lt;br /&gt;
::Large, herd-dwelling dinosaurs that could run bipedaly.  Several species had a &amp;quot;boss&amp;quot; of bone on their heads (Pachycephalosaurs) which may have been used for head-butting similar to bighorn sheep; others a crest of bone (hadrosaurs) which may have been sound resonators. &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Camptosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Iguanodon]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Pachycephalosaurus]]'' &lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Parasaurolophus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Edmontosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Bactrosaurus]]''&lt;br /&gt;
:::''[[Maiasaura]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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== In Popular Culture ==&lt;br /&gt;
*The [[Flintstones]] depicts humans and dinosaurs coexisting.  While the cartoon is comedic in nature, it is accurate in that early man would have used dinosaurs as beasts of burden.&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==	 &lt;br /&gt;
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