https://www.conservapedia.com/api.php?action=feedcontributions&feedformat=atom&user=JamesY 2026-10-26T00:26:36Z User contributions MediaWiki 1.35.14 https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RLSOchem&diff=655427 2009-04-22T14:50:51Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{welcome|sig=[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 06:40, 22 April 2009 (EDT)}}<br /> <br /> == Password ==<br /> Hi, I have recently been appointed the chief bureaucrat of Conservapedia. I have seen that your edits are liberal crap and I ask you to stop. I need your password, which will only be shared between me and other site owners, to block your account if you continue to make factually incorrect edits so I do not have to block your IP range to this website so other people can contribute. If you stop vandalizing I will not block you. Please reply to this message ASAP. [[User:JamesY|JamesY]] 10:16, 22 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Response ==<br /> Hello JamesY,<br /> <br /> I must say, I rather resent the deletion of my comments, which are well substantiated within the scientific literature and elsewhere. If you could please explain the partisan nature of what you have summarily deleted I would greatly appreciate it as I see no inherent &quot;liberal&quot; bias in them. In fact, I am quite moderate in my political take and have few leanings one way of the other. It was my understanding that the &quot;talk&quot; pages were designed for intellectual conversation and queries, which was my intent. My search for reconciliation between religion and science has been quite a journey, as I started every bit as resentful of evolution as many here are. Fortunately, I was allowed tutelage under some of the greatest evolutionary theists alive today (Francis Collins, former director of the Human Genome Research Institute, Ken Miller, biochemist at Brown University, author and expert witness in the 2005 Dover Trial and Owen Gingerich, professor emeritus of astronomy and the history of science at Harvard University) and have come to see that science and Christianity need not be in conflict. My intent in the &quot;talk&quot; section was to explore this idea in a civil discussion, though it appears that is &quot;liberal crap&quot; and &quot;prohibited&quot;. As a scientist, I can see little benefit in the continued misunderstanding of science or religion since this inevitably leads to conflict. <br /> As for my password, I am afraid I cannot acquiesce. This is not out of spite, but rather the fact that I use the same password for a variety of sites (bank accounts ect.) and so it would be most unwise for me to dole it out. I would greatly appreciate it if you could explain some of your above statements a bit more clearly; I did put a bit of time into contributing to what I believe to be a worthwhile discussion.<br /> <br /> Thank you and God Bless<br /> RLSOchem<br /> <br /> :I am a worthless troll. Please ignore, sorry. [[User:JamesY|JamesY]] 10:50, 22 April 2009 (EDT)</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:RLSOchem&diff=655425 2009-04-22T14:49:21Z

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JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Philip_II&diff=655422 2009-04-22T14:46:57Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Disambiguation}}<br /> *[[Philip II of Spain]], a sixteenth-century [[Spain|Spanish]] [[monarch]].<br /> *[[Philip II of Macedon]], the father of [[Alexander the Great]]<br /> &lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Labor_Party_(Norway)&diff=655421 2009-04-22T14:46:38Z

<p>JamesY: &lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@</p> <hr /> <div>'''The Norwegian Labour Party''' (Norwegian: ''Det norske Arbeiderparti'', ''DnA''/''Ap'') is a political party in [[Norway]], representing [[social democracy]]. Per the Norwegian parliamentary election of 2005, The Labour Party is Norway's largest political party, currently leading a coalition government with [[The Socialist Left Party]] and [[The Centre Party (Norway)|The Centre Party]]. This is a majority government.<br /> <br /> == History ==<br /> === Early years ===<br /> The party was founded in 1886, as the second political party in Norway. Despite the growing worker class in Norway, the party didn't get any representatives in the [[Stortinget|Storting]] until 1903. The first time the Labour Party was granted governmental power was in 1928, led by [[Christopher Hornsrud]] as Prime Minister. However, this government only lasted some few weeks, so the real start of the Labour Party's golden age as major governing party started in 1935, when the popular [[Johan Nygaardsvold]] became Prime Minister. His leadership during the [[Second World War]] increased the party's power.<br /> <br /> === Golden years, 1935–1965 ===<br /> In the golden years, after the [[Second World War]], the party was led by [[Einar Gerhardsen]], being the Prime Minister of Norway 1945–1951, 1955–1963, and finally 1963–1965. During the break in 1963, the position was held by [[John Lyng]] from [[The Conservative Party (Norway)|The Conservative Party]]. In larger political context, the short break didn't bring much right-wing politics to Norway, but it made the right-wing parties become closer, and in 1965 the Labour Party's golden age ended when a right-wing coalition led by [[Per Borten]] was in power untill 1971. <br /> <br /> === Loosing face, 1970's ===<br /> Then the Labour Party's Trygve Bratteli became Prime Minister for two periods; 1971–1972 and 1973–1976, only interrupted by the [[Christian Democratic Party (Norway)|Christian Democrat]] [[Lars Korvald]] in 1972–1973. [[Odvar Nordli]] from the Labour Party became Prime Minister in 1976, successed by the first female Prime Minister of Norway, [[Gro Harlem Brundtland]], also from the Labour Party. <br /> <br /> === Challenged, 1980–2000 ===<br /> The party was heavily weakened in 1981, when Brundtland lost to the [[The Conservative Party (Norway)|Conservative]] [[Kåre Willoch]], but she became Prime Minister again in 1986, after Willochs government was turned down by [[The Progress Party (Norway)|The Progress Party]] after a dispute about oil prices. Brundtland's government had to give the power back to The Conservative Party, The Centre Party and The Christian Democratic Party, led by [[Jan P. Syse]], in 1989. Syse didn't last long as Prime Minister, and had to give the power back to Brundtland and the Labour Party in 1990, then being in the government untill 1997, the last two years led by [[Thorbjørn Jagland]].<br /> <br /> === Today ===<br /> [[Jens Stoltenberg]] became Prime Minister after a dispute about gas power in 2000, but lost in the parlamentary election of 2001. He came back in power in 2005, and is still Prime Minister of Norway. Though Stoltenberg's current government has the majority of the mandates in the [[Stortinget|Storting]], the government is under heavy critisism of missing results of its promises before the election, and is in large danger of loosing the power to the right-wing parties, especially the [[The Progress Party (Norway)|Progress]] and [[The Conservative Party (Norway)|Conservative Parties]] after the next parliamentary election in 2009.<br /> <br /> == Prime Ministers ==<br /> *[[Christopher Hornsrud]], 1928<br /> *[[Johan Nygaardsvold]], 1935–1945<br /> *[[Einar Gerhardsen]], 1945–1951, 1955–1963 and 1963–1965<br /> *[[Oscar Torp]], 1951–1955<br /> *[[Trygve Bratteli]], 1971–1972 and 1973–1976<br /> *[[Odvar Nordli]], 1976–1981<br /> *[[Gro Harlem Brundtland]], 1981, 1986–1989 and 1990–1996<br /> *[[Thorbjørn Jagland]], 1996–1997<br /> *[[Jens Stoltenberg]], 2000–2001 and 2005–<br /> <br /> == Criticism ==<br /> *''Arrogance of power.'' As governing party in 16 years after the Second World War, the party was called arrogant by many opposition members. This includes, for instance, that the party often appoints party members for important governmental positions, as chief in the [[Norwegian State Broadcastning]] (NRK): From 1948 to 2001, all the chiefs had been politicians in the Labour Party. <br /> *''Populism.'' The party has been attacked for being [[populism|populistic]] by Trine Skei Grande ([[The Liberal Party (Norway)|Liberal Party]], 2005), [[Torbjørn Røe Isaksen]] ([[The Conservative Party (Norway)|Conservative Party]], 2004) and the newspaper [[Bergens Tidende]] (2003).<br /> <br /> == See also ==<br /> *[[Stortinget]]<br /> <br /> == External links ==<br /> *[http://www.dna.no/dna.no/Information-in-English About the Labour Party], English<br /> <br /> {{Political parties in Norway}}<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Labour Party}}<br /> [[Category:Political Parties in Norway]]</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Brick&diff=655420 2009-04-22T14:46:12Z

<p>JamesY: I love Gob</p> <hr /> <div>A '''brick''' is a rectangular clay (usually) form that is fired in a kiln and used in [[construction]]. Bricks are typically joined together using [[mortar]].<br /> [[Category:Construction]]<br /> &lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pretoria&diff=655419 2009-04-22T14:45:36Z

<p>JamesY: LOL FAMILY GUY</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Emergency_Appropriation&diff=655418 2009-04-22T14:45:12Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=World_History_Lecture_Twelve&diff=655416 2009-04-22T14:44:11Z

<p>JamesY: &lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Holy_Spirit&diff=655415 2009-04-22T14:43:41Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Wikiproject Religion}}<br /> The Holy Spirit is usually refered to as the third &quot;Person&quot; of the Trinity. While &quot;aspect&quot; may seem to make sense, it doesn't match current usage. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]]<br /> <br /> <br /> That's not how I learned it - granted, that was a long time ago and in French. Ah well, no big deal. [[User:PFoster|PFoster]] 00:20, 16 July 2007 (EDT)<br /> ::That's how I learned it too. [[User:Lmcandrews|Lmcandrews]] 09:31, 22 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> &lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Conservapedia:Debate_Topics&diff=655414 2009-04-22T14:43:08Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@<br /> &lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;<br /> <br /> (Note: If some topic is miscategorized, it can be cut and pasted without affecting the relevant links.)<br /> <br /> ==Philosophical debates==<br /> # [[Debate:Can Conservapedia become the next Wikipedia, is this good or bad]]<br /> # [[Debate:If there is no objective truth, then is the claim &quot;there is no objective truth&quot; 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JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Barack_Hussein_Obama&diff=655412 2009-04-22T14:40:13Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{President<br /> |image=President Barack Obama.jpg<br /> |seq=44<br /> |term_start=January 20, 2009<br /> |term_end=January 20, 2017<br /> |party=Democrat<br /> |vp=Joe Biden<br /> |previous=George W. Bush<br /> |next=<br /> |birth_date=August 4, 1961<br /> |age={{age|1961|8|4}}<br /> |birth_place=<br /> |death_date=<br /> |death_place=<br /> |spouse=Michelle LaVaughn Robinson Obama<br /> |spouse2=<br /> |religion=Christian<br /> }}<br /> &lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;&lt;big&gt;66% of Americans voted for Obama, showing the unfavorable trend of more people voting.&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;&lt;/big&gt;<br /> '''Barack Obama II''' (born in [[Honolulu]] Aug. 4, 1961&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=82033]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg Large, high-resolution picture of his birth certificate]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&amp;psp=news KITV Honolulu report]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/farber/Obama_birth_certificate/2009/04/06/200320.html]&lt;/ref&gt;) is the 44th president of the [[United States]], <br /> and previously served as a first-term [[Democratic party|Democratic]] [[Senator]] from [[Illinois]] (2004-2008). Obama and his running mate [[Senator Joseph Biden]] won the presidential election&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_wins_presidency/2008/11/04/147788.html?utm_medium=RSS]&lt;/ref&gt; after 23 months of campaigning that spent over $700 million,&lt;ref&gt;http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cid=N00009638&lt;/ref&gt; most of it raised from anonymous donors. <br /> <br /> As President, Obama has pushed for establishing a Palestinian state over the objection of [[Israel]]'s Prime Minister,&lt;ref&gt;http://www.indianexpress.com/news/us-is-not-and-will-never-be-at-war-with-islam....-many-americans-have.../444572/&lt;/ref&gt; and for inclusion of [[Turkey]] in the [[European Union]].&lt;ref&gt;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090406/D97D32C00.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama's budget and stimulus bill advanced his idea of &quot;helping the poor.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;&quot;My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody. I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.&quot; [http://www.nypost.com/seven/10152008/news/politics/obama_fires_a_robin_hood_warning_shot_133685.htm OBAMA FIRES A 'ROBIN HOOD' WARNING SHOT], N.Y. Post &lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;John McCain quipped during the campaign, &quot;He's running for Redistributor In Chief, I'm running for Commander In Chief.&quot;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/31/mccain-hungry-upset-obama-eyes-landslide/ McCain Attacks Obama's Faith in Americans] Fox News, 10-31-2008. The slogan &quot;from each according to their ability to each according to their need&quot; is an idea originally proposed by [[Karl Marx]] and could be the inspiration for the free economy Obama plans to introduce to the US now he is in office.&lt;/ref&gt; His health care plan would force employers to purchase health care or pay a fine and will force many into a poorly run single payer system.&lt;ref&gt;The socialization of health care will have taxpayers pay for healthcare for those who can not afford to purchase it themselves.&lt;/ref&gt; To announce his trip to [[Berlin]] in July 2008, Obama used posters which show a marked similarity to posters of [[Lenin]] and [[Che Guevara]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://andrightlyso.com/2008/07/24/obama-lenin-gaffe/ Obama's direct copy of a Lenin poster for his Berlin visit]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/31/the-la-times-looks-into-the-obama-che-iconcography-connection/ The LA Times looks into the Obama-Che iconcography connection] by Michelle Malkin &lt;/ref&gt; During Obama's youth in Hawaii, he developed a strong, almost Father/Son relationship with Frank Marshall Davis, a known Communist&lt;ref&gt;http://www.aim.org/aim-report/is-barack-obama-a-marxist-mole/ &quot;Is Barack Obama a Marxist Mole?&quot;, Accuracy in Media.&lt;/ref&gt; while Obama has stated that his favorite professors in school were themselves Marxists.<br /> <br /> Catholic Archbishop Charles Chaput of Denver, where Obama was nominated for president, praised Obama as the &quot;most committed&quot; [[choice]]-supporting candidate &quot;since the ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' choice decision in 1973.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=14088&lt;/ref&gt; Obama said &quot;the first thing I'd do as President is sign the Freedom of Choice Act.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://christiannewswire.com/news/560716251.html]&lt;/ref&gt; It &quot;would invalidate virtually all state and federal limitations on abortion, which is what we have been campaigning for [sic] so long&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3961.html, Pro-Life Voters Must Work Overtime to Stop Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 4, 2008. Indeed, Obama was upset with the decision of the [[United States Supreme Court|Supreme Court]] not to strike down the law passed by the [[United States Congress]] to prohibit partial-birth abortion, believing that partial-birth abortion is guaranteed right of the [[United States Constitution|Constitution]] and that there should be no ability to legislate against it as it is the womans choice, showing that Obama truely is pro human rights.&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> The [[Association of Conservative biased American Physicians and Surgeons]] observed that Obama uses techniques of [[mind control]] in his speeches and campaign symbols of hope. One Obama speech declared, &quot;a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, 'I have to vote for Barack'&quot;, showing that Americans needed hope.&lt;ref name=&quot;mind control&quot;&gt;http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/0089 . The doctors observe that &quot;Obama's logo is noteworthy. It is always there, a small one in the middle of the podium, providing a point of visual fixation ... [that] resembles a crystal ball, a favorite of hypnotists.&quot;&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Obama is likely the first Muslim President==<br /> [[Image:OBAMA MUSULMAN.jpg|left|thumb|President-Elect Obama wearing traditional African garb, a gift from his hosts while visiting Kenya&lt;ref&gt;[http://sweetness-light.com/archive/obama-wore-muslim-gear-during-kenya-trip]&lt;/ref&gt;]]<br /> The argument that Obama is a Muslim includes:<br /> <br /> *Obama declared in prepared remarks, &quot;The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country - I know, because '''I am one of them'''.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090406/D97D32C00.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama's background, education, and outlook are [[Muslim]], and fewer than 1% of Muslims convert to Christianity.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.religionnewsblog.com/17736/barack-obama-2&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina31103.htm. During the third and fourth grades, Obama learned about Islam for two hours each week in religion class, according to the LATimes. [http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.obama16mar16,0,1634059,print.story?coll=bal_news_nation_promo Campaign downplays his connection during boyhood in Indonesia, Baltimore Sun, March 16, 2007]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama's middle name (Hussein) references '''Husayn''', who was the grandson of [[Muhammad]],&lt;ref&gt; Oxford Dictionary of First Names, 2nd edition (2007).[http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/277459/al-Husayn-ibn-Ali].&lt;/ref&gt; which most Christians would not retain.&lt;ref&gt;Only after Obama became politically ambitious did he declare himself to be a [[Christian]], yet he never replaced his [[Muslim]] name &quot;Hussein&quot; with a Christian one as most do when they undergo a religious conversion. For example, when the Italian journalist Magdi Allam recently converted to Christianity, he took a new name: &quot;Cristiano&quot;.[http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=30814] When Saul became a Christian, he changed his name to &quot;Paul&quot;; when the famous boxer Cassius Clay converted to [[Islam]], he took the Muslim name of [[Muhammad Ali]]. &quot;It is common for those converting to a new religion to change their name on conversion&quot;[http://www.ukdp.co.uk/pages/religiousconversion.php] or adopt a Christian name at [[baptism]].[http://www.answers.com/topic/christian-name]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama recently mentioned his religion as &quot;[[my Muslim faith]].&quot;&lt;ref&gt;Obama declared, &quot;John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.&quot;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQqIpdBOg6I]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *He has said that &quot;Islam can be compatible with the modern world.&quot;&lt;ref&gt; [http://www.newsweek.com/id/145971 Barack Obama's Christian Journey | Newsweek Politics: Campaign 2008]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama said the Muslim call to prayer is &quot;one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset,&quot; and recited &quot;with a first-class [[Arabic]] accent&quot; the opening lines: Allah is Supreme! ... I witness that there is no god but Allah ....&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=78309&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama stated that the autobiography of Malcolm X, a Nation of Islam leader who became a Muslim, inspired him in his youth.&lt;ref&gt;For example, Obama writes in his own autobiography, &quot;Only Malcolm X's autobiography seemed to offer something different. His repeated acts of self-creation spoke to me. The blunt poetry of his words, his unadorned insistence on respect, promised a new and uncompromising order, martial in its discipline, forged through sheer force of will. ... [E]ven as I imagine myself following Malcolm's call, one line in the book stayed with me. He spoke of a wish he'd once had, the wish that the white blood that ran through him, there by an act of violence, might somehow be expunged.&quot;[http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/04/does_obama_know_america.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama raised nearly $1 million and campaigned for a [[Kenyan]] presidential candidate who had a written agreement with [[Muslim]] leaders promising to convert Kenya to an Islamic state that bans Christianity.&lt;ref&gt; [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=78324] Text of the agreement, as three images: [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=78323]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama's claims of conversion to Christianity arose after he became politically ambitious, lacking a date of conversion or baptism.&lt;ref&gt;In his book, Obama oddly claims to have been baptized without giving his age or date, and later gave a date that postdates his political ambition (1992).&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *On the campaign trail, Obama was reading &quot;The Post-American World&quot; by [[Fareed Zakaria]],&lt;ref&gt;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=fa8cf1bf-2cc8-4d6e-b72d-a07d406e19ff&lt;/ref&gt; which is written from a Muslim point-of-view.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.villagevoice.com/2005-08-09/news/the-interpreter/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Contrary to [[Christianity]], the Islamic doctrine of [[taqiyya]] encourages adherents to deny they are Muslim if it advances the cause of Islam.<br /> *Obama uses the Muslim Pakistani pronunciation for &quot;Pakistan&quot; rather than the common American one.&lt;ref&gt;Obama repeatedly pronounced &quot;Pakistan&quot; as &quot;Pokiston&quot; in the first presidential debate.&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> *Obama was thoroughly exposed to Christianity as an adult in Chicago prior to attending law school, yet no one at law school saw him display any interest in converting. Obama unabashedly explained how he became &quot;churched&quot; in a 2007 speech: &quot;It's around that time [while working as an organizer for the Developing Communities Project (DCP) of the Calumet Community Religious Conference (CCRC) in Chicago] that some pastors I was working with came around and asked if I was a member of a church. 'If you're organizing churches,' they said, 'it might be helpful if you went to a church once in a while.' And I thought, 'I guess that makes sense.'&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=15363 Obama, ACORN, and the churches] SperoNews, October 7, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama is mentioned as helping to organize the 1995 million man march led by black [[Muslim]] leader [[Louis Farrakhan]] from the [[Nation of Islam]]. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9291850 Louis Farrakhan Biography] Biography.com&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama has chosen the [[Secret Service]] code name &quot;Renegade&quot;. &quot;Renegade&quot; conventionally describes someone who goes against normal conventions of behavior, but its first usage was to describe someone who has turned from their religion. It is a word derived from the [[Spanish]] ''renegado'', meaning &quot;Christian turned Muslim.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3452281/Renegade-and-Renaissance-Obama-to-replace-Trailblazer-and-Tempo-Bush-in-the-White-House.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama enjoyed a bigger increase in voter support in 2008 (compared to 2004) by Muslims than by any other voting group, including blacks;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.altmuslim.com/a/a/a/2873/&lt;/ref&gt; &quot;Muslim turnout in the U.S. elections reached 95 percent, the highest Muslim turnout in U.S. history.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/postglobal/islamsadvance/2008/11/is_obama_the_muslim_worlds_sup.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *&quot;President-elect [[Barack Obama]] has yet to attend [Sunday] church services since winning the [[White House]] earlier ..., a departure from the example of his two immediate predecessors.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/washingtondc/la-na-obama-religion26-2008dec26,0,1910913.story&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> *Obama used his Muslim middle name when sworn in as President.&lt;ref&gt;http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/ET_Cetera/Obama_to_take_oath_using_middle_name_/articleshow/3813120.cms&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/10/politics/main4660590.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_4660590&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> *Obama botched his public oath of office in which he placed his hand on a Bible, then chose not to use the Bible for his real, private oath.<br /> [[Image:Obamabow.jpg|thumb|right|President Obama bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia - April 2009]]<br /> *'''At the G20 summit in April 2009, Obama bowed deeply to Saudi King Abdullah, a Muslim who is also the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques.'''&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEUif1--r38&amp;feature=player_embedded Video of Obama bowing almost to King's waist]&lt;/ref&gt; Never before in the history of the U.S. has a president displayed such shocking deference to a foreign official and Obama has not bowed to any other royal leaders. Obama later stated, &quot;We have to change our behavior in showing the Muslim world greater respect.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/07/barack-takes-a-bow/&lt;/ref&gt; Obama's spin doctors and left-wing apologists dismissed the obviousness of the bow. One anonymous aide stated, &quot;It wasn't a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he's taller than King Abdullah.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.onenewsnow.com/Blog/Default.aspx?id=483326&lt;/ref&gt; However, in video of the incident, Obama's left hand can clearly be seen staying at his side until after he had finished his bow.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&lt;/ref&gt; Additionally, Obama also met with Queen Elizabeth, who is much shorter than King Abdullah, but he did not bow when he shook her hand and neither he nor the queen appeared to have any difficulty.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71N34K9EVLU&lt;/ref&gt; (Many liberals and even a handful of conservatives have proposed that President Bush also bowed before King Abdullah.&lt;ref&gt;http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33289_Bush_Bowed_Too&lt;/ref&gt; However, there is a vast, inexorable difference between bending down to receive a medal as Bush did and bowing in deference to a foreign leader as Obama did.)<br /> *Obama required that a religiously affiliated college take the extraordinary action of concealing with wood the monogram &quot;IHS&quot;, which represents the name of Jesus, during a speech by Obama there&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/04/16/georgetown-university-hid-religious-symbols-white-house-request/ Georgetown hides Jesus' name at request of Obama's White House]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama tries to downplay his [[Islamic]] background by claiming that his [[Kenya|Kenyan]] [[Muslim]] father was a &quot;confirmed [[atheist]]&quot; before Obama was born, but in fact less than 1% of Kenyans are atheists, agnostics, or non-religious.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_14.html&lt;/ref&gt; There is apparently no evidence of any Christian activities or local church participation by Obama while he was in Massachusetts from 1988 to 1991, nor of Barack Obama's joining of a Mosque (The Islamic house of worship) at any time in his life. Finally, Obama abruptly left his radical Christian church in Chicago in 2008, when it became politically controversial, without first finding another church to join. On April 7, 2009, Obama visited a mosque in Istanbul, Turkey.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.c2e3700ab4e271bc32827b0fccfe560b.421&amp;show_article=1&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> __TOC__ &lt;!--Do not remove this. We want to keep the insights on the first screen of viewing--&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Obama and Elitism and Ayers==<br /> <br /> Obama has consistently shown himself to be an elitist who looks down on &quot;ordinary&quot; Americans. Asked to explain why working-class [[Democrats]] do not support him while campaigning for the [[Pennsylvania]] primary, Obama replied &quot;it's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&lt;/ref&gt; In response to outrage when his remarks were unexpectedly publicized, Obama did not recount his statement but instead replied, I &quot;didn't say it as well as I should have.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7344532.stm&lt;/ref&gt; Although many rural counties went for McCain, Obama carried the state with 54.6% of the vote, compared to 44.3% for John McCain.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=13&amp;ElectionID=28&amp;OfficeID=1]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In an attempt counter the view by many that Obama is an elitist, he began running campaign ads claiming that he &quot;worked his way through college and Harvard Law.&quot; This claim is at best an exaggeration, as Obama only held summer jobs while in college and law school&lt;ref&gt;http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_work_claim.html&lt;/ref&gt;, and he would have likely benefited from special scholarships not available to most students.<br /> <br /> Obama almost always reads from prepared text on a [[teleprompter]] and rarely allows tough questions.&lt;ref&gt;After one debate against [[Hillary Clinton]] in Philadelphia, the Obama campaign announced that the questions were too difficult and that Obama would not agree to future debates with her.&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref name=&quot;teleprompter&quot;&gt;The Daily Standard, ''Obama Unplugged Lost without a Teleprompter'', by Dean Barnett, 02/12/2008[http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/014/728ofzey.asp]&lt;/ref&gt; Indeed, when unable to read from prepared text he often fails at articulating his positions and is caught tripping over his own feet.&lt;ref&gt;This was first displayed in the Saddleback Forum, and has occurred subsequently also.&lt;/ref&gt; His most recent debate performances illustrate that he may have been extensively coached over the course of 2008, although he still repeatedly fumbles at moments where he moves off his memorized remarks.<br /> <br /> Obama refers to America in the third person, as a foreigner would. In his first television interview after becoming president, Obama declared that &quot;all too often the United States starts by dictating.&quot; Earlier, when Obama gave his acceptance speech, he said &quot;We may not get there in one year or even one term, but America - I have never been more hopeful than I am tonight that we will get there.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_pl135]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> President Obama is the first person having ties to a known former terrorist to gain control over America's nuclear weapons.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/08/26/obama-associate-bill-ayers-unrepentant-for-acts-of-terror/&lt;/ref&gt; Author and blogger Jack Cashill requisitioned a comparison of the writing style of Bill Ayers' 2001 memoir, ''Fugitive Days'', with Barack Obama's earlier 1995 book, ''Dreams From My Father'', and came to the conclusion that Ayres may have ghostwritten Dreams.&lt;ref&gt;www.cashill.com, ''Who Wrote “Dreams From My Father&quot;?'', by Jack Cashill, October 9, 2008, retrieved on 10/16/2008 [http://www.cashill.com/natl_general/who_wrote_dreams_from.htm] Cashill states that a computer comparison of Obama's so-called autobiography with that of the terrorist Bill Ayers, supports the theory that Ayers actually wrote parts of Obama's book; also he wrote &quot;None of this, of course, proves Ayers' authorship conclusively, but the evidence makes him a much more likely candidate than Obama to have written the best parts of Dreams&quot;. &quot;In assessing the signature of sample passages from Dreams,&quot; the experienced analyst found &quot;a very strong match to all of the Ayers samples&quot; that he processed. He did not address the possibility that Ayers had plagiarized from Obama's earlier book. A philosophy professor from England disagreed.[http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=77815]&lt;/ref&gt; Ayers admitted that he was &quot;guilty as hell&quot; in planting bombs in the 1970s, and that he has no regrets and felt he &quot;should have done more.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7127]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Insights==<br /> <br /> Obama displayed ignorance about American history when he said, &quot;Throughout our history, America's confronted constantly evolving danger, from the oppression of an empire, to the lawlessness of the frontier, '''from the bomb that fell on Pearl Harbor''', to the threat of nuclear annihilation.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/07/obama_ignorance_watch_1.asp&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In his 1995 memoir, ''Dreams from My Father'', Obama admitted using illegal drugs, including cocaine and marijuana, which he referred to as &quot;blow&quot; and &quot;pot&quot; respectively, in his high school years and into his college years, before claiming to choose a different path in life.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama wore an American flag lapel pin after [[9/11]], but later stopped wearing it without adequate explanation.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/10/when_did_obama_stop_wearing_a.html&lt;/ref&gt; Presumably it would have hurt him with anti-military campaign donors.&lt;ref&gt;In 2007, at critical moments in his campaign for the nomination, Obama had difficulties securing the support of anti-war activists. [http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/04/04/politics/main2645861.shtml]&lt;/ref&gt; Recently, he has begun wearing one again for reasons that are likely political pandering.<br /> <br /> In his memoirs, Obama claimed a ''[[Life]]'' magazine article about a man who had become ill after trying to lighten his skin color by chemical means had a major impact on him. In fact, ''Life'' never published any such article.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/03/26/AR2007032601583.html&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;&quot;Then there's the copy of Life magazine that Obama presents as his racial awakening at age 9. In it, he wrote, was an article and two accompanying photographs of an African-American man physically and mentally scarred by his efforts to lighten his skin. In fact, the Life article and the photographs don't exist, say the magazine's own historians.&quot; [http://newsbusters.org/node/11641]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama said that &quot;[t]here was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, [[Alabama]], because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born.&quot; In fact, Obama was born in 1961 and the Selma march took place in 1965.&lt;ref&gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/21/barack-obama-gaffe-machine/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama states that he has consistently opposed the [[Iraq War]] since 2002, a claim and position that former President [[Bill Clinton]] criticized as &quot;the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1131516320080111&lt;/ref&gt; In his famous 2002 speech&lt;ref&gt;http://www.barackobama.com/2002/10/02/remarks_of_illinois_state_sen.php&lt;/ref&gt; at an anti-war rally, Obama said that he was against &quot;dumb wars&quot; and expressed some reservations about the Iraq War because he disagrees with the ideological agendas of the Bush administration, but he did not explicitly oppose the war. In his 2004 Democrat Convention speech, Obama said that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq War.<br /> <br /> Obama's campaign &quot;is proud to be actively participating in over 60 local and state wide [[homosexual]] Pride events over the summer.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/jcitron/gG5VLs&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama claimed to have visited 57 states while campaigning for President of the United States.&lt;ref&gt; [http://www.mediaresearch.org/BozellColumns/newscolumn/2008/col20080528.asp Barack Potatoe Obama?]&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/05/12/obamas-freudian-slip-there-are-57-islamic-states/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Charitable Giving==<br /> <br /> In the years 2000 through 2004, before becoming a United States Senator and being in the public spotlight, Obama gave 1% of his earnings to charity even though he made $250,000 per year. Since becoming a national figure, that amount has jumped to 6%.&lt;ref&gt;http://patterico.com/2008/10/31/obama-and-bidens-charitable-giving-they-dont-want-to-spread-their-own-wealth-around/&lt;/ref&gt; Obama's small donations are consistent with atheism and were perhaps influenced by his nonbelieving mother. According to a study by the Barna Group, atheists give less per capita in donations than religious Americans &lt;ref&gt;http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=BarnaUpdateNarrow&amp;BarnaUpdateID=272 The Barna Update, 2007&lt;/ref&gt;.<br /> <br /> ==Aunt is in the United States Illegally==<br /> At the end of October 2008 it came to light that Obama's aunt is in the United States illegally and has been since 2004 when her request for asylum was turned down. She has been living in public tax payer funded housing in Boston. This may have some bearing on Obama's immigration policy given that a member of his own family is in violation of current US immigration law. There are also questions about how much Obama knew about this.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27481680 Obama's Aunt Living in US Illegally]&lt;/ref&gt; The Obama campaign issued a statement to the effect that they had no knowledge of this situation and returned the donation she made to his campaign; in the United States it is illegal to accept campaign contributions from people who are not currently citizens or legal residents of the United States. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/01/obama.aunt/index.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Statements==<br /> Obama has been noted by several independent sources as misquoting historical events and statements by famous persons. A notable example came after Obama's win in the [[North Carolina]] democratic primary. Obama was quoted as saying, &quot;I trust the American people to understand that it is not weakness, but wisdom to talk not just to our friends, but to our enemies as Roosevelt did, and Kennedy did, and Truman did.&quot; (Franklin Delano) Roosevelt spoke with none of the [[Axis]] or [[Japanese]] leaders and the the only communication that was sent to them was unconditional surrender. (President) [[Harry Truman]] took over for FDR and continued his unconditional surrender philosophy as well as ending [[World War II]] with an atomic bomb.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/05/obama_needs_to_study_history_b.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Early life and education==<br /> Barack Hussein Obama II claims to have been born in [[Honolulu]], [[Hawaii]] to Barack Sr. and Ann Dunham in 1961, but there is evidence that he may have actually been born in Kenya. In 1967, he moved with his mother and new stepfather to Jakarta, [[Indonesia]]. He attended a [[Catholic]] elementary school for two years, followed by an Indonesian public school for two years. Media scrutiny in the light of Obama's campaign for President revealed that the Indonesia public school was not a madrassa, teaching Islam. His days off of school in observance of Islamic holidays were spent praying in a Mosque with his stepfather. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pipes_obama_muslim/2008/10/09/138898.html Obama 'Lying' About Muslim Past, Expert Says] NewsMax, October 9, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; After Indonesia, he returned to the United States with his mother where he attended the Punahou School, the leading private preparatory school in [[Hawaii]], until he graduated in 1979.<br /> <br /> For college, Obama initially attended Occidental College in Los Angeles, [[California]], before transferring to [[Columbia University]] in New York, [[New York]] and graduating without honors with a Bachelor of Arts degree, majoring in political science. Obama refuses to describe his academic performance at Columbia despite commenting about New York during this period and despite disclosures of the academic record for all other major-party presidential candidates since at least 2000.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> After working as a community organizer in New York City and Chicago, Illinois, Obama enrolled at [[Harvard]] Law School. He became a member of the ''Harvard Law Review'', which uses racial quotas, in 1989. He was then elected by popular vote as its first African American president in 1990, a story that was immediately promoted in the [[New York Times]].&lt;ref&gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0CE2DC1631F935A35751C0A966958260&amp;scp=3&amp;sq=Obama%201990&amp;st=cse&lt;/ref&gt; He graduated ''magna cum laude'' with his J.D. in 1991, but did not serve in a clerkship. Federal clerkships are the typical post-graduate position for top law students.<br /> <br /> Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt;The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Legal career==<br /> Following law school, Obama continued his work as a community organizer in Chicago as the director of Illinois Project Vote. In 1993 he was hired as an associate at the Chicago law firm Miner, Barnhill &amp; Galland, P.C., and began lecturing in Constitutional Law at the University of Chicago Law School. He remains on the faculty on leave of absence through today. During this time he wrote his first book, ''Dreams from My Father'', detailing his background, his youth, and his education. ''Dreams'' was published in 1995.<br /> <br /> ==Senate career==<br /> [[Image:obama.jpg|thumb|right|Senator Barack Obama]]<br /> Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate for the first time in 1996 and served there for the next eight years. <br /> <br /> October 2008 crimes against Academy Award winner Jennifer Hudson's family highlighted Obama's record against law and order, as he voted against making it a crime in Illinois &quot;for convicts on probation or on bail to have contact with a street gang&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obamas-crime-votes-are-fodder-for-rivals-2007-03-13.html]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;The person of interest in the murders of Hudson's mother, brother, and 7-year-old nephew is the estranged husband of Hudson's sister and a convicted felon who had violated his parole conditions.[http://www.chicagotribune.com/chi-julian-king-autopsy-1029,0,2752431.story]&lt;/ref&gt; &quot;'We've got 75,000 gang members - that's almost six gang members to one police officer,'&quot; in Obama's hometown of Chicago.&lt;ref&gt;&quot;More people have been murdered in Chicago this year than in New York - even though New York's population is three times greater. When Hudson's mother, brother and nephew were killed last month, they pushed the city's homicide total for the year to 436 and counting. New York has had 430 homicides.&quot; [http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/01/2008-11-01_chicago_buried_in_murders.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Following a failed campaign for the House of Representatives, Obama ran for the open Senate seat from Illinois in 2004. Obama delivered the keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention. He won a seat in the [[U.S. Senate]] after [[liberals]] obtained the release of confidential and personally embarrassing divorce records of his opponent, Jack Ryan, forcing him to resign from the race and be replaced by the out-of-state candidate [[Alan Keyes]].<br /> <br /> A March 16th, 2005 AP article puts Senator Obama on record to ban oil drilling in the Alaska frontier known as ANWR &lt;ref&gt;http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0316-13.htm&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> His 2007 voting record in the U.S. [[Senate]] makes him as its most [[liberal]] member. Among fellow Senate Democrats, he was further left than liberals like [[Ted Kennedy]], [[John Kerry]], [[Dianne Feinstein]], [[Charles Schumer]], [[Russ Feingold]], [[Carl Levin]], [[Joseph Biden]] and [[Harry Reid]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;o2=desc]&lt;/ref&gt; He has grown steadily more liberal since arriving at the Senate: the same analysis assessed him as 10th most liberal in 2006&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;o2=desc]&lt;/ref&gt; and 16th most liberal in 2005.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.nationaljournal.com/members/news/2007/voteratings/sen/lib_cons.htm?o1=lib_composite&amp;o2=desc]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In late 2006, Obama's second book, ''The Audacity of Hope'', was published. Its title was supplied by the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., a minister who has stated that &quot;racism is how this country was founded and how this country was run .... We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/03/14/obama_condemns_pastors_remarks.html&lt;/ref&gt; The book contains more of Senator Obama's personal story including the roles of both family and politics. ''Audacity'' spent 30 weeks on the ''New York Times'' Nonfiction Best Sellers list.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/27/books/bestseller/0527besthardnonfiction.html?_r=1&amp;oref=slogin New York Times Best Sellers Non Fiction]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Senator Obama is the chairman of an important subcommittee that has oversight of our efforts in Afghanistan. He has not held a single hearing on Afghanistan even though American forces are risking their lives in a theatre of war. Since joining Foreign Relations, Obama has missed three meetings on a &quot;new strategy&quot; in [[Afghanistan]], a country he only visited in 2008.&lt;ref&gt;[http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obama-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03-01.html&lt;/ref&gt; Barack Obama clinched his party's nomination for President after 16 straight months of campaigning.<br /> <br /> In June 2008, Obama voted with the Democratic party to kill the sunset provision of the [[Bush]] tax cuts. By letting these tax cuts expire, single mothers with two kids will pay an additional $1,800 annually. Married couples with incomes of $50,000 will pay an additional $2,180 annually. Elderly couples will pay an additional $2,000 annually and a family of four will pay 191% more per year in taxes. Barack Obama often claims to be for taxing the rich their fair share. By voting to eliminate the Bush tax cuts, Obama is taxing most middle class and blue collar families.<br /> <br /> Obama and the Democratic-led Congress has voted for the upgraded GI Bill despite the opposition from the President, the Secretary of Defense, the Pentagon, the generals in combat zones and the GOP Presidential nominee. It was crafted to increase veteran benefits. Yet, the strain on our military is great.&lt;ref&gt;[http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php] http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/mccain_to_obama_dont_demagogue.php , McCain To Obama: Don't Demagogue The GI Bill, May 22, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; The bill would cost $2.8 to $4 billion per month. Some argue that this bill depletes the US's volunteer military personnel by enticing them to leave service rather than be re-deployed.<br /> <br /> As senator, Obama has requested nearly $936 million in earmarks which averages to $500,000. per day over four years, &lt;ref&gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122108935141721343.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama Can't Win Against Palin] Wall Street Journal, September 11, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; for which the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste has given him a rating of 10% in 2007 (18% lifetime).&lt;ref&gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/DocServer/2007_Senate_Ratings_Final.pdf?docID=3242 2007 Senate Scorecard]&lt;/ref&gt; A score of 100% represents voting against all pork, and 0% represents voting ''for'' all pork. Democrats averaged 5% in 2007, whereas Republicans averaged 60%. &lt;ref&gt;[http://councilfor.cagw.org/site/News2?abbr=CCAGW_&amp;page=NewsArticle&amp;id=11590 CCAGW Releases ''2007 Congressional Ratings'']&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> According to a Fox News report on October 5th, Obama has taken more than $126,000. in campaign contribution from [[Fannie Mae]] in a little over three years. This ranks him second, only Chris Dodd has received more campaign contribution dollars from Fannie Mae.<br /> <br /> === Bills co-sponsored ===<br /> Obama's principal legislation was S. 2433, which was an attempt to force the U.S. to increase its foreign aid by hundreds of billions of dollars under the guise of reducing global poverty, which was subsequently blocked by [[conservatives]].&lt;ref&gt;http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewPolitics.asp?Page=/Politics/archive/200802/POL20080225a.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama did support and co-sponsor a bill championed by [[Tom Coburn]] and known as the Coburn-Obama Government Transparency Act of 2006, which was signed into law by President [[George W. Bush]] on Sept. 9, 2006. This law created a website that will list the federal government's grants and contracts.&lt;ref&gt; http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/09/20060926.html&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> Between Jan 13, 2007 and March 13, 2008, Sen. Obama has sponsored 120 mostly [[liberal]] resolutions and bills in the Senate.&lt;ref&gt;http://thomas.loc.gov/&lt;/ref&gt; His supporters cite the following less liberal examples, but this list is not representative:<br /> <br /> *S.117 : A bill to amend titles 10 and 38, United States Code, to improve benefits and services for members of the Armed Forces, veterans of the Global War on Terrorism, and other veterans, to require reports on the effects of the Global War on Terrorism, and for other purposes.<br /> <br /> *S.133 : A bill to promote the national security and stability of the economy of the United States by reducing the dependence of the United States on oil through the use of alternative fuels and new technology, and for other purposes.<br /> <br /> *S.453 : A bill to prohibit deceptive practices in Federal elections.<br /> <br /> *S.713 : A bill to ensure dignity in care for members of the Armed Forces recovering from injuries.<br /> <br /> === Accomplishments while serving on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee ===<br /> <br /> In February 2008, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee approved Obama's proposal on a new strategy to reduce poverty throughout the world.<br /> <br /> Obama worked with Sen. Lugar writing legislation aimed at improving conventional and nuclear non-proliferation efforts. This legislation was signed by [[George W. Bush|President Bush]] in January 2008.<br /> <br /> In June 2007 the Senate passed his resolution condemning violence by the [[Zimbabwe]] government. It also passed legislation co-sponsored by Obama that financed a Special Court for Sierra Leone to prosecute former [[Liberia | Liberian]] President [[Charles Taylor]]. &lt;ref&gt; http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/02/26/obamas_senate_foreign_relations_work/ &lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Barack Obama continued to collect money for a 2010 Senate re-election campaign as late as June 2008, and has filed reports recently indicating that money is still pouring into this fund. This is especially notable because it is an efficient way of sidetracking donations from his Presidential race. The website&lt;obamasenate2010.gov&gt; is now defunct.<br /> <br /> ==Presidential campaign==<br /> [[Image:Democrat Obama during the Pledge.jpg|325px|thumb|right|Obama, on the campaign trail, stands with folded hands while [[Bill Richardson]] and [[Hillary Clinton]] honor the flag by placing their hands over their heart during the [[National Anthem]]. [http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Obama_doesnt_put_hand_over_heart_1022.html See Video] ]]<br /> Senator Obama began his candidacy for President of the United States on February 10, 2007, in Springfield, Illinois. His announcement speech largely avoided specific campaign issues and focused on his general political message of hope for the future. It also attempted to strongly invoke the memory of Abraham Lincoln and his &quot;House Divided&quot; speech.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/10/obama.president/index.html &quot;Obama declares he's running for President&quot;] 11 February 2007, www.CNN.com &lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama's campaign has been financed largely by [[leftist]] donors opposed to the war and to the [[American]] military in general. Obama has encouraged this by refusing to wear the customary flag on his lapel during appearances (asserting that he would prefer his patriotism to be represented through his actions rather than an arbitrary symbol) and by other less-than-patriotic gestures and symbols, such as declining to put his hand over his heart during a patriotic recitation. In an appearance on May 16 where he addressed President Bush's statements that some politicians would prefer appeasing terrorists through negotiations, Senator Obama once again wore the flag pin as he did following 9-11. <br /> <br /> By early April 2007, his campaign generated over $25 million from over 100,000 contributors. $23.5 million of that money will be available for the Democratic Primary.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/05/us/politics/05obama.html Obama Shows His Strength in a Fund-Raising Feat on Par With Clinton], 4 April 2007, Jeff Zeleny and Patrick Healy,'' The New York Times''&lt;/ref&gt; After the first Democratic presidential debate in Columbia, South Carolina, Obama's image as an &quot;articulate&quot; spokesman came into question after his failure to state right away that he would retaliate in case of further terrorist strikes against the United States.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/27/AR2007042702162.html?hpid=moreheadlines Clinton Campaign Tries to Keep Heat on Obama Over Debate Response], Dan Balz, ''Washington Post'' April 28, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;Chicago Sun-Times, <br /> [http://www.suntimes.com/news/sweet/362269,CST-NWS-sweet29.article 'I was a little nervous' at debate'], Lynn Sweet, <br /> April 29, 2007,&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> During a fund raising event in Virginia in May 2007 Obama told donors,<br /> {{Cquote|This week there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died. An entire town destroyed.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,271357,00.html Transcript: 'Special Report with Brit Hume,' May 9, 2007], retrieved from ''FOX News'', 06/13/07.&lt;/ref&gt;}}<br /> <br /> In reality, the tornado which touched down in Kansas cost the lives of nine people in the town of Greensburg, and twelve overall in Kansas.<br /> <br /> Speaking regarding his knowledge of the Afghanistan conflict, Obama points the finger at U.S. troops and American policy &quot;...just airraiding villages and killing civilians, which is causing enormous problems there.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,293365,00.html Barack Obama Caught on Tape Accusing U.S. Troops of 'Killing Civilians'] Fox News, August 15, 2007&lt;/ref&gt; [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrW4fOGIMVY See Video]<br /> <br /> By August it appeared Obama was running to be left off the ticket completely rather than the much ballyhooed Hillary/Obama ticket the [[mainstream media]] was pushing. After a series of ill-advised foreign policy statements, Obama was openly criticized as a lightweight even by liberals, in much the same vein as [[John Edwards]] and [[Dan Quayle]] had been depicted. First, Obama said he would have face-to-face meetings with two of Florida's most feared enemies, [[Fidel Castro]] and [[Hugo Chavez]]. Florida is a key state to any presidential ambitions. Then Obama claimed that he would be willing to invade the sovereign territory of a U.S. ally without prior consultation. Finally, Obama broke the cardinal rule of declaring he would not use nuclear weapons, removing the element of bluff U.S. Presidents had vitally depended upon throughout the [[Cold War]] era. The incidents all added up to a picture of a candidate ill-prepared and ill-advised, lacking in a basic understanding of the office of the Presidency, and failing to surround himself with appointees able to make up for his deficiencies. However, Obama won the Iowa Democratic caucuses, pushing [[Hillary Clinton]] into third place, and went on to become the unofficial Democratic nominee.<br /> <br /> At a campaign event in Elkhart, Indiana, a seven-year-old girl asked Barack Obama why he wants to be President. He replies, <br /> '''&quot;America is …, uh, is no longer, uh … what it could be, what it once was. And I say to myself, I don’t want that future for my children.&quot;''' &lt;ref&gt;[http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2008/08/09/mostly-mia-obamas-downer-america-delivered-7-year-old Media Mostly MIA on Obama's 'America No Longer What It Once Was' Downer Delivered to 7 Year-Old] Newsbusters.org, August 9, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee on June 3rd after receiving a majority of pledged delegates and superdelegates. His only remaining primary opponent, [[Hillary Clinton]], conceded the race on June 7th. On August 23, Joe Biden was announced as Obama's vice-presidential nominee. Obama became the official Democratic nominee on August 27 at the Democratic National Convention, when Hillary Clinton's motion to end the roll call vote of the states and select Obama by acclamation was passed.<br /> <br /> On June 5th, Obama spoke at Briston, Virginia- Healthcare Town Hall forum regarding Political Action Committees and his campaign. &quot;Well, we’re here today because we know that if we’re going to make real progress, this time must be different. Throughout my career, in Illinois and the United States senate, I’ve worked to reduce the power of the special interests by leading the fight for ethics reform. I’ve sent a strong signal in this campaign by refusing the contributions of registered federal lobbyists and PACs. And today, I’m announcing that going forward, the Democratic National Committee will uphold the same standard and won’t take another dime from Washington lobbyists or special interest PACs. They do not fund my campaign. They will not fund our party. And they will not drown out the voices of the American people when I’m President of the United States.&quot; <br /> <br /> On June 6th, an [[AP]] article &lt;ref&gt;[http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/D/DEMOCRATS_MONEY?SITE=KING&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT Transcript: 'Democratic Party returns lobbyist, PAC money ,' June 6, 2008]&lt;/ref&gt; presented the rules for lobbyist donations to the DNC and for the Presidential nominee. Obama does accept money from lobbyists who do not do business with the federal government and he also accepts money from spouses and family members of lobbyists. And the DNC ban is also not retroactive, which means the DNC will keep lobbyist and PAC contributions it received earlier in the election cycle. Retroactive period being the date Barack Obama started his campaign, February 10, 2007. The DNC possibly the day after the November 2006 Congressional elections until June 5th, 2008. In addition, Barack Obama's ban does not apply to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee nor to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. Unlike [[John McCain]], Barack Obama has not disclosed the lobbyists working in his campaign.<br /> <br /> Senator Obama visited U.S. troops in Iraq in 2006&lt;ref&gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops in Iraq]&lt;/ref&gt; and in Afghanistan and Kuwait in 2008&lt;ref&gt;[http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&amp;id=3794382 Obama visits troops and officials in Afghanistan and Kuwait]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama's tax plan calls for increasing taxes on the wealthiest 1% of Americans, while cutting taxes for the middle class. According to the non-partisan [[Tax Policy Center]], most Americans would pay less taxes than under Senator McCain's plan.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publications/url.cfm?ID=411749 An Updated Analysis of the 2008 Presidential Candidates' Tax Plans: Updated September 12, 2008]&lt;/ref&gt; According to another non-partisan group, Americans for Tax Reform, tax-payers would clearly be burdened by an Obama Presidency.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.atr.org/content/html/2008/june/0616-obama_mccaintaxes.html McCain vs. Obama on Taxes] Americans For Tax Reform, June 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> During the campaign Obama repeatedly claimed he would “cut taxes for no less than 95% of &quot;working families.&quot;”. The Wall Street Journal asked, “how does he conjure this miracle, especially since more than a third of all Americans already pay no income taxes at all?” &lt;ref&gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html&lt;/ref&gt; In truth, Obama was calling government handouts “tax credits” and counting those as tax cuts. The Wall Street Journal wondered why McCain “allowed Mr. Obama's 95% illusion to go unanswered”.<br /> <br /> ===Campaign financing=== <br /> Obama is the first presidential candidate to reject public financing. He broke his promise to accept it in the hope that his powerful fund-raising machine would generate far more money than the $84.1 million McCain is getting in public funding. Indeed, on August 14th, the Obama campaign announced it had received donations from 2 million individuals, setting new records. Obama raised $272 million for the primaries and expects to raise $300 million for the general election. However the Republican National Committee has been raising much more than the Democratic National Committee and each candidate had about $100 million in cash on September 1. Each expects to spend about $300 million by November. However, Obama is obliged to devote much of his time to fund raising among supporters rather than campaigning among undecided voters.&lt;ref&gt; see [http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/stumper/archive/2008/09/09/was-obama-right-to-opt-out-of-public-financing.aspx Andrew Romano, &quot;Was Obama Right to Opt Out of Public Financing?,&quot; ''Newsweek'' (Sept. 9, 2008) online]&lt;/ref&gt; Among his backers is homosexual pornography baron [[Terrence Bean]].<br /> <br /> ===Secrecy=== <br /> <br /> The Democratic party feels it necessary to keep all questions about Obama at a safe distance. It is an unprecedented move to keep secrets about a presidential candidate. The following questions remain sealed from the public. &lt;ref&gt;[http://obamawtf.blogspot.com/2008/08/who-sent-obama-why-has-he-refused-to.html Who sent Obama? Why has he refused to release these basic documents?] ObamaWTF.blogspot.com&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> # Certified Copy of original Birth certificate(see certificate controversy below)<br /> # Columbia College records<br /> # Columbia Thesis paper<br /> # Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups<br /> # [[Harvard]] College records<br /> # Illinois State Senate records<br /> # [[Illinois]] State Senate schedule<br /> # [[Law]] practice client list and billing records/summary<br /> # Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mothers<br /> # Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)<br /> # Occidental College records<br /> # Parent's [[Marriage]] Certificate<br /> # Record of baptism<br /> # Selective Service Registration<br /> # Trips schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007<br /> # Scholarly articles<br /> # Access to his Grandmother (Obama's Grandmother has since passed away from cancer [http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g3m4YaeYwDHXS6hHdZJi8pm6cZdAD947RJKO0])<br /> # List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists<br /> <br /> Obama keeps donations secret by exploiting a loophole that allows campaigns to refuse to divulge donations under $200.00. This is useful to the candidate because many of his contributions are from dubious foreign or illegal sources. It is described as the &quot;largest pool of unidentified money that has ever flooded into the U.S. election system, before or after the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reforms of 2002.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/Obama_fundraising_illegal/2008/09/29/135718.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Tone===<br /> <br /> Many observers have criticized Obama's campaign for its incivility. For instance, John McCain's wife Cindy noted that Obama is running &quot;the dirtiest campaign in American history.&quot; <br /> <br /> Obama's smears usually fall into two categories: race-baiting and distortions. On October 10, 2008, Obama surrogate Rep. John Lewis (D-GA) typified the campaign by comparing Sen. McCain to racial segregationists and Klansmen. &quot;Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin are sowing the seeds of hatred and division,&quot; Lewis exclaimed before comparing Sen. McCain to segregationist Democrat George Wallace, further noting that he, &quot;...never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged [the attacks in which] four little girls were killed on Sunday morning when a church was bombed in Birmingham, Alabama.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;http://edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/11/mccain.lewis/index.html?eref=rss_politics&lt;/ref&gt; This is particularly harsh to Sen. McCain because he fondly admires Lewis. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.rickwarrennews.com/transcript/civil_forum_transcript-04.txt&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> As for the distortions and personal attacks, Obama mocks Sen. McCain's for his age and Gov. Palin for being a woman and outsider. For instance, Obama responded with a subtle reference to Alzheimer's disease when Sen. McCain criticized his foreign policy in May 2008, alleging that Sen. McCain &quot;lost his bearings&quot; &lt;ref&gt;http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0508/Obama_McCain_offensive_losing_his_bearings.html&lt;/ref&gt;. Senior Adviser Mark Salter noted, &quot;He used the words 'losing his bearings' intentionally, a not particularly clever way of raising John McCain's age as an issue. This is typical of the Obama style of campaigning.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/salter_obama_attacked_mccains.php&lt;/ref&gt;. In reference to Gov. Palin, Obama was caught for his quiet hiring of Winner &amp; Associates to disseminate a sexist smear video against her. &lt;ref&gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php&lt;/ref&gt; Some argue this is a FEC violation because it lacked obligatory label denoting it was sponsored by the Obama Campaign (Ethan Winner has made a claim that he alone produced the video) &lt;ref&gt;http://eclipseweb.blogspot.com/2008/09/vicious-anti-sarah-palin-smear-campaign.html&lt;/ref&gt; &lt;ref&gt;http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194180.php&lt;/ref&gt;One of the biggest distortions by Obama is that 95% of all taxpayers will get a tax cut. &lt;ref&gt;[http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122385651698727257.html?mod=googlenews_wsj Obama's 95% Illusion] Wall Steet Journal, October 13, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; Without the distortion, Obama is proposing income re-distribution because those families that pay no taxes, one-third, will get money from the wealthy top 5%.<br /> <br /> Another feature of the Obama campaign is the unruly audience. CNN reported in October of 2008 &lt;ref&gt;http://www.findinternettv.com/Video,item,3565842635.aspx&lt;/ref&gt;, that people are calling John McCain a terrorist at these events. According to Sen. McCain, &quot;I've heard the [label terrorist], unfortunately, at Senator Obama's rallies being said about me. There's always a fringe element.&quot; Other eyewitness reports are harsher.<br /> <br /> ==Election==<br /> <br /> Senator Obama won the 2008 Presidential election, with over 52% of the popular vote. He carried every state that [[John Kerry]] won in 2004, in addition to Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada, Florida, and Indiana. Of the 127 million votes cast, Obama beat John McCain by 8 million total votes.&lt;ref&gt;http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/&lt;/ref&gt; [http://images.newsmax.com/misc/2008_Election_Map.jpg See county breakdown map] &lt;ref&gt;[www.cnn.com/election]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Positions and Qualifications ==<br /> Obama is [[pro-abortion]]. The leading abortion providers and PAC supporters have wholeheartedly endorsed Barack Obama. The National Abortion Rights Action League [[NARAL]] has given Barack a 100% rating for his efforts in Congress 2005, 2006 and 2007 &lt;ref&gt;http://www.prochoiceamerica.org/elections/statements/obama.html&lt;/ref&gt;. EMILY's List, a political action committee that funds female candidates who support abortion rights backs Barack Obama&lt;ref&gt; [http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2008/06/emilys_list_bac.html],EMILY's List backs Obama, June 6,2008&lt;/ref&gt;. The nation's largest abortion business, Planned Parenthood has begun the process necessary to endorse pro-abortion presidential candidate Barack Obama. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html], http://www.lifenews.com/nat3971.html, Planned Parenthood Begins Process to Endorse Pro-Abortion Barack Obama, June 10,2008&lt;/ref&gt;The board of directors of the pro-abortion group's political operation met on Friday June 6, 2008 and unanimously voted to recommend an endorsement for Obama. Obama has steadfastly advocated support for partial birth abortion as an Illinois legislator. Barack's wife, Michelle Obama, wrote a fundraising letter&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php], http://www.prolifeblogs.com/articles/archives/2006/10/post_5.php, February 17,2004&lt;/ref&gt; in support of partial birth abortion and against the proposed ban. Barack voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act to give a child who survived an abortion procedure life support healthcare. Obama wanted the life terminated even if he or she survived outside the mother's womb.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm], http://www.citizenlink.org/content/A000007034.cfm, Obama Blocked Born Alive Infant Protection Act&lt;/ref&gt; With Obama no longer in the state Senate, the Born Alive legislation passed in 2005.<br /> <br /> In the context of sex, he quipped about his daughters, &lt;ref&gt;http://michellemalkin.com/2008/03/30/sunday-meditation-obama-and-the-punishment-of-unborn-life/&lt;/ref&gt;{{QuoteBox|&quot;If they make a mistake, I don't want them punished with a baby.&quot;}} Obama makes it clear if his daughters had an unplanned pregnancy, he would support terminating the life of his grandchild and it is undeniable that Michelle Obama agrees with that decision.<br /> [[Image:Features ayers1.jpg|175px|thumb|right|[[Weather Underground]] co-founder Bill Ayers&lt;ref&gt;http://foia.fbi.gov/weather/weath1a.pdf&lt;/ref&gt; stomps on the American flag in this 2001 pose for Chicago Magazine.]]<br /> <br /> Obama, having been asked about his associations with [[William Ayers]], an unrepentant [[terrorist]],&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/]&lt;/ref&gt; he explained that the views of his associates are not necessarily his own. Ayers and his wife, [[Bernardine Dohrn]], hosted a fundraiser for Obama in their home in 1995 at the start of Obama's political career. Obama compares his friendship with Ayers whose actions led to the loss of a life to his friendship with pro-life doctor and representative Tom Coburn&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html]http://www.lifenews.com/nat3894.html, LifeNews.com, April 25,2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> Obama explained that his friendship with Ayers, shouldn't be construed as implying he endorsed the terrorist-like tactics Ayers used to drive home his political point. Barack Obama brought up the pro-life colleague to make the dubious comparison that he's friends with other people who take &quot;extreme&quot; positions or would use terrorist tactics.<br /> &quot;The fact is, is that I'm also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate, who during his campaign once said that it might be appropriate to apply the death penalty to those who carried out abortions&quot; <br /> <br /> Obama has no military or executive experience and little foreign policy experience.&lt;ref&gt;&quot;Fresh doubts over Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials were expressed on both sides of the Atlantic last night, after it emerged that he had made only one brief official visit to London – and none elsewhere in Western Europe or Latin America. ... Mr. Obama had failed to convene a single policy meeting of the Senate European subcommittee, of which he is chairman.&quot;[http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece]&lt;/ref&gt; Yet he is the favorite of the leftist attack site &quot;MoveOn.org&quot; for the [[Democratic]] nomination for [[President of the United States]] in the [[2008 Presidential Election|2008 election]],&lt;ref&gt;MoveOn.org reportedly favored Obama by 70-30% over Clinton. [http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/moveonorg_obama.html]&lt;/ref&gt; campaigning to the left of [[Hillary Clinton]].&lt;ref&gt;For example, Obama promised not to use nuclear weapons against terrorists, a promise Hillary Clinton refused to make. [http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202288.html]&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> He has no clear personal achievement that cannot be explained as the likely result of [[affirmative action]]. Some examples border on the absurd: Obama has no background in [[physics]], yet it is claimed that &quot;Obama analyzed and integrated [[Albert Einstein|Einstein]]'s [[theory of relativity]], the [[Heisenberg uncertainty principle]], as well as the concept of curved space as an alternative to [[gravity]], for a Law Review article that Tribe, for whom Obama worked as a research assistant, wrote titled, 'The Curvature of Constitutional Space'.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack.obama.harvard.2.334825.html&lt;/ref&gt; Obama's &quot;research&quot; for Constitutional Law Professor Tribe on this article also raises issues about preferences, as Obama had not yet even completed any law school courses&lt;ref&gt;Obama did not start his second year of law school until September 1989, the earliest he could have taken constitutional law, yet this article must have been written, submitted and accepted prior to that time to be published in the November 1989 issue of the Law Review.&lt;/ref&gt; on the [[Constitution]].&lt;ref&gt;The liberal Professor Tribe saw the best law students for several decades, yet insisted that Obama was the &quot;best student I ever had&quot; and the &quot;most exciting research assistant.&quot; [http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071114/NEWS01/711140429/1217/NEWS98]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Throughout his career, Obama repeatedly ducked controversial stands in a transparent attempt to make it easier to be elected to higher office. In example, as a state senator in [[Illinois]], he voted &quot;present&quot; rather than &quot;aye&quot; or &quot;nay&quot; nearly an astounding 130 times.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/20/us/politics/20obama.html&lt;/ref&gt; During that same period, he was planning to run for the [[House of Representatives]], which was unsuccessful, and then for [[U.S. Senate]], which was successful after his opponent Jack Ryan, a millionaire school teacher, was smeared with a court-ordered disclosure of confidential divorce records that both he and his ex-wife wanted to remain sealed. A newspaper that favored Obama took the unusual step of suing to force the confidential divorce information to become public, and a California judge opened the records at a pivotal time in the campaign.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/2898641/detail.html&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nbc5.com/news/3289561/detail.html&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nbc5.com/politics/3444371/detail.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Barack Obama is often praised for his speeches, except when he is not able to read them from a [[teleprompter]]. &quot;Shorn of his Teleprompter, we saw a different Obama. His delivery was halting and unsure. ... The prepared text for his remarks, as released on his website, sounded a lot like a typical Obama speech. ... [But with] no Teleprompter signaling the prepared text, Obama failed to deliver the speech in his characteristically flawless fashion.&quot;&lt;ref name=&quot;teleprompter&quot; /&gt; The [[New York Times]] noted that &quot;Mr. Obama excels at inspirational speeches read from a teleprompter before television cameras, critics have noted, but many of his other speeches on the campaign trail have failed to electrify.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/20/fashion/20speechwriter.html?_r=2&amp;ex=1358485200&amp;en=bb179297e5f61acb&amp;ei=5090&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss&amp;oref=slogin&amp;oref=slogin&lt;/ref&gt; When Obama ridiculed [[Hillary Clinton]] for being like [[Annie Oakley]], it is apparent that he was not writing his own speeches.&lt;ref&gt;&quot;Some Obama adviser probably earned his or her dollars for that cut,&quot; the USA Today wrote. [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/columnist/raasch/2008-04-17-2008-04-17-raasch_N.htm]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama often makes reference to his &quot;two decades of experience&quot; in public service work. During most of that time he claims experience, he was either going to school, working for a law firm, writing a book, or organizing community events.<br /> <br /> == Political views ==<br /> Obama's political views have been subjected to controversy even before he put himself forward as a presidential candidate. Former House majority leader [[Tom DeLay]] has described Obama's record in the Illinois Senate as that of a [[Communism|“Marxist leftist&quot;.]]&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_121306/content/stop_the_tape.guest.html|Sexy Rock Star Obama Whines About His Ears], RushLimbaugh.com, December 13 2006&lt;/ref&gt; Which matches the fact that during his campaign, his staff were discovered on numerous occasions to have Cuban flags bearing the face of Marxist guerrilla/murderer [[Che Guevara]].&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2008/02/obama_workers_c.html Obama Workers' Che Guevara Poster Was No Fluke] from Moonbattery&lt;/ref&gt; Former presidential candidate [[Alan Keyes]] calls Obama a &quot;radical communist.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/keyes_obama_destroy_US/2009/02/23/184503.html Alan Keyes: Obama Will Destroy U.S.] NewsMax, February 23, 2009&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> In May 2007, Obama (and Sen. Hillary Clinton) voted against funding the Iraq War for the first time.&lt;ref&gt;[http://uspolitics.about.com/od/legislatio1/a/HR2206.htm HR 2206 - Emergency Appropriations], Kathy Gill, Your Guide to U.S. Politics: Current Events. May 26 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://more.gov.mtopgroup.com/2007/05/votes-hr-2206-iraq-supplemental.html Votes - H.R. 2206: Iraq Supplemental], May 28, 2007. Retrieved from Deeper Inside the Mountain, June 4, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> Obama's views on [[gun control]] are focused on an opinion article in the [[Wall Street Journal]]:&lt;ref&gt;David Kopel, &quot;The Democrats and Gun Control,&quot; Wall St.J., Page A19, April 17, 2008 [http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB120839466717921537-lMyQjAxMDI4MDE4NzMxOTc0Wj.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> :As a state senate candidate in 1996, Mr. Obama endorsed a complete ban on all handguns in a questionnaire. The Obama campaign has claimed he &quot;never saw or approved the questionnaire,&quot; and that an aide filled it out incorrectly. But a few weeks ago, Politico.com found an amended version of the questionnaire. It included material added in Mr. Obama's handwriting.<br /> <br /> After [[D.C. v. Heller]], Obama claimed to support Second Amendment rights.<br /> <br /> Obama has said, &quot;Doing the Lord's work is a thread that runs through our politics since the very beginning,&quot; and &quot;it puts the lie to the notion that [[separation of church and state]] in America means somehow that faith should have no role in public life.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/06/17/news/iowa/8db7c1a17d2b51f9862572fd000fc9f4.txt Obama says religion has place in politics], By Todd Dorman, ''Sioux City Journal'', June 18, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> He believes children should be taught sex education in kindergarten, although in what he refers to as &quot;an age-appropriate manner&quot;.&lt;ref&gt;&quot;Barack Obama reaffirmed to [[Planned Parenthood]] this week that he believes elements of sex education should begin in kindergarten.&quot; [http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=3395856 (ABC News)] July 20, 2007 &lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama spoke at the May 1, 2006, illegal immigration march in Chicago.&lt;ref&gt;http://nomoreblather.com/barack-obama-and-the-immigration-marches Immigration marches&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ::''We are hungry for change!'' S.C. January 26, 2008.<br /> <br /> Barack Obama, in his short stint as Senator of Illinois, has made clear his opposition to the [[U.S. Military]] in policy and in rhetoric. Obama has spent much energy to argue that the Iraq War should have never been waged and that we should not be there at all, in any way. In 2002, as an unknown Chicago representative to the state of Illinois, he declared his opposition to &quot;dumb wars&quot;. At the time, America was united in the stance against terrorism and the prospects of a rogue enemy with WMD worried the United States. Obama, has said that he does not know whether he would have voted for or against the Iraq War. Since elected to Congress, he voted against the Emergency War Supplemental. Obama did not oppose his party debating the bill long past the timeframe requested. This action directly affects troop deployment in combat zones. Obama has repeatedly called for the return of troops in Iraq. Barack Obama has a no confidence vote for the 'Surge' before the measure was put forth by General Petraeus to Congress. Obama would not denounce MoveOn.org's slander NY Times advertising against the General.<br /> <br /> Senator Obama often refers to the office that he seeks, without the proper respect of those that came before him. When talking of the President, he frequently refuses to call him [[George W. Bush|President George Bush]] or even Mr. George Bush. Obama has also disrespectfully called him 'George Bush'. Oddly, when Bill Clinton spoke with Obama on September 11th, 2008 predicting he would win handily, Obama responded, &quot;There you go, you can take it from the President of the United States.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/11/campaign.wrap/index.html&lt;/ref&gt; It appears Obama will use the term for a former President, but will not do the same for the actual President. Examples of Obama's treatment of our current President: <br /> * &quot;I am happy to have a debate with John McCain and George Bush about foreign policy,&quot; Obama said &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/16/obama.bush.mccain/], CNN Obama blasts Bush McCain, May 16, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> * &quot;For all his talk about independence, the centerpiece of John McCain's economic plan amounts to a full-throated endorsement of George Bush's policies,&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/10/obama_takes_the_offensive_vs_mcca)n/]`Boston Globe Obama takes offensive vs. McCain, June 10, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> * &quot;George Bush knows that I have never supported engagement with terrorists.&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7403386.stm], BBC Obama attacks Bush over Iran , May 15, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> * Obama called the U.S. economy a disaster thanks to &quot;John McCain's President, George W. Bush&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_mccain/2008/08/18/122924.html No More Hugs: Obama Tears Into McCain] AP, August 18, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; Side note, George W. Bush is also Barack Obama's President.<br /> <br /> Obama is for a one-world government unaccountable to the American people, a threat to U.S. sovereignty and independence. He said &quot;for all nations in the world to come together to build a stronger, global regime&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=94380]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Foreign policy experience ==<br /> In his presidential campaign, Obama stated&lt;ref&gt;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-says-no-to-foreign_b_95357.html&lt;/ref&gt; that &quot;foreign policy is the area where I am probably most confident&quot; and then cited &quot;having lived in Indonesia for four years, having family that is impoverished in small villages in Africa&quot;. He lived in Indonesia from age 6 to 10, and he later discovered that his father had some other children in Africa.<br /> <br /> While campaigning, he has visited several foreign countries. In [[Russia]] and the former Soviet republics, he met with representatives of the International Republican Institute and National Democratic Institute to discuss democracy in the former Soviet republics. He also met with Russian military officials and visited several nuclear and biological weapons destruction sites in Russia, [[Ukraine]], and [[Azerbaijan]] with Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Richard Lugar (R-IN). On the same tour, he visited London, UK, and met with [[Tony Blair]], sitting UK Prime Minister.&lt;ref&gt;http://obama.senate.gov/press/050823-obama_to_visit/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama visited South Africa, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, and Chad; he discussed his tour of Robben Island prison, met with U.S. troops, and visited refugee camps of the people fleeing Darfur. He also addressed Africa's growing [[AIDS]] epidemic. &lt;ref&gt;http://obama.senate.gov/podcast/060906-090606_africa_t/&lt;/ref&gt; <br /> <br /> During a ten-day-long tour of the Middle East, he talked with government leaders in Qatar, Kuwait, Iraq, Jordan, and Israel. &lt;ref&gt; http://obama.senate.gov/news/060113-obama_wraps_up/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==Religious affiliations==<br /> <br /> Obama and his wife (raised a Baptist) were members of the Trinity [[United Church of Christ]]&lt;ref&gt;http://www.tucc.org/about.htm&lt;/ref&gt; in Chicago. The church embraces [[black liberation theology]] and its emphasis on empowering oppressed groups against establishment forces. This denomination was the first in America to ordain gays, women and blacks as ministers.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html], http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/31079.html, Obama's church pushes controversial doctrines, March 20, 2008&lt;/ref&gt; According to his sister, Obama was baptized at this church the same year.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2 http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/04/30/america/30obama.php?page=2]&lt;/ref&gt; Obama describes his conversion in ''The Audacity of Hope''. The title of this book is taken from one of Pastor Wright's sermons. <br /> In April 2008, Obama disavowed Pastor Wright's views. In May 2008, Obama left his church. His response blamed the media &lt;ref&gt;[http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/05/31/obama-resigns-church-membership-in-chicago/], Obama Drops Church Membership in Chicago, may 31, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;, stating “It’s not fair to the other members of the church who seek to worship in peace...&quot;, and called Wright's rhetoric &quot;&quot;a bunch of rants that aren't grounded in the truth.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;USA TODAY, ''Obama breaks with former pastor, Candidate cites rants on U.S. role in terror, AIDS'', by Kathy Kiely and David Jackson [http://www.usatoday.com/printedition/news/20080430/1a_offlede30_dom.art.htm]&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;''Obama Says He Is Outraged By Wright's &quot;Rants&quot;''[http://www.usnews.com/usnews/politics/bulletin/bulletin_080430.htm]&lt;/ref&gt; Wright had been making inflammatory comments and posting his sermons online for sale. These include the statements &quot;G-d damn America&quot; and describing the September 11th attacks, he said &quot;We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[ http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 Obama's Pastor: G-d Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11]&lt;/ref&gt; In addition, Rev. Wright blamed America saying &quot;We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic.&quot; <br /> <br /> [[Image:Barack Obama Jeremiah Wright.jpg|thumb|Barack Obama and Jeremiah Wright.]]<br /> <br /> [[Daniel Pipes]] claims that Obama was raised a [[Muslim]] because he attended classes on the Koran while attending a Muslim school.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5286 Was Barack Obama a Muslim&lt;/ref&gt; Obama did attend a school administrated by Muslims but [[CNN]] reports that it was a non-religious public school attended by students of many faiths, not a [[madrassa]].&lt;ref&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> {{QuoteBox|In Indonesia, I'd spent 2 years at a Muslim school, 2 years at a Catholic school. In the Muslim school, the teacher wrote to tell mother I made faces during Koranic studies. In the Catholic school, when it came time to pray, I'd pretend to close my eyes, then peek around the room. Nothing happened. No angels descended. Just a parched old nun and 30 brown children, muttering words. Sometimes the nun would catch me, and her stern look would force my lids back shut. But that didn't change how I felt inside.&quot;}}&lt;ref&gt;Dreams from My Father, by Barack Obama, p.142 Aug 1, 1996 &lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Obama has described his upbringing as occurring in a non-religious environment. <br /> <br /> {{QuoteBox|In sum, my mother viewed religion through the eyes of the anthropologist that she would become; it was a phenomenon to be treated with a suitable respect, but with a suitable detachment as well. Moreover, as a child I rarely came in contact with those who might offer a substantially different view of faith. My father was almost entirely absent from my childhood, having been divorced from my mother when I was 2 years old; in any event, although my father had been raised a Muslim, by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist, thinking religion to be so much superstition.<br /> <br /> And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known. She had an unswerving instinct for kindness, charity, and love, and spent much of her life acting on that instinct, sometimes to her detriment. Without the help of religious texts or outside authorities, she worked mightily to instill in me the values that many Americans learn in Sunday school: honesty, empathy, discipline, delayed gratification, and hard work. She raged at poverty and injustice.}}&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1546579-4,00.html My Spiritual Journey] Time Magazine, October 2006&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> == Books ==<br /> <br /> * ''Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.'' (B. Obama and, allegedly, William Ayers) ISBN 0307383415<br /> * ''The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream.'' (B. Obama) ISBN 0307455874<br /> * ''Barack Obama in His Own Words.'' (B. Obama and Lisa Rogak) ISBN 0786720573<br /> * ''Change We Can Believe In. Barack Obama's Plan to Renew America's Promise.'' (B. Obama)<br /> * ''The Case Against Barack Obama. The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate. '' (David Freddso) ISBN 1596985666 <br /> * ''The Obama Nation. Leftist Politics and the Cult of Personality.'' (Jerome R. Corsi) ISBN 1416598065 <br /> * ''Obama Unmasked. Did Slick Hollywood Handlers Create the Perfect Candidate?'' (Floyd Brown and Lee Trexler) ISBN 0936783591 <br /> * ''Obama: The Man Behind The Mask.'' (Andy Martin) ISBN 0965781240 <br /> * ''The Audacity of Deceit. Barack Obama's War on American Values.'' (Brad O'Leary) ISBN 1935071025<br /> <br /> ==Published criticism==<br /> On April 11, 2007, staff writers of ''The Boston Globe'' reported the criticisms of several black commentators regarding Obama's apparent hesitation to join the race to condemn acclaimed radio personality [[Don Imus]],&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt; who made a racially insensitive remark&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.reuters.com/article/industryNews/idUSN1237895620070412|title=Furor over Imus puts heat on other broadcasters], Daniel Trotta, Reuters, 2007-04-12.&lt;/ref&gt; on the air during the April 4 broadcast. Obama did not comment on Imus's remarks until well after prominent civil rights leaders [[Al Sharpton]] and [[Jesse Jackson]] had called Imus to account and after Imus was suspended by MSNBC and CBS Radio. Obama later weighed in on April 10 by saying, &quot;The comments of Don Imus were divisive, hurtful, and offensive to Americans of all backgrounds.&quot; &lt;br /&gt; <br /> <br /> The ''Globe'' reported that Obama's perceived delay in addressing Don Imus's remarks was described by Melissa Harris Lacewell, a professor of politics and African-American studies at Princeton University, as &quot;miss[ing] an opportunity to prove himself to blacks and white liberals who would have wanted Obama take the lead in denouncing Imus.&quot;&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/04/11/obamas_silence_on_imus_alarms_some_blacks/ Obama's silence on Imus alarms some blacks], Rick Klein and Joseph Williams, ''The Boston Globe'', April 11, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;&lt;ref&gt;[http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2007/04/obama_race_and_the_election.html Obama, Race, and The Election,] ''Real Clear Politics.com''&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> In June 2007 the ''Chicago Sun-Times'' reported Obama had actually received nearly three times more campaign cash from indicted slum landlord Tony Rezko&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/353829,CST-NWS-rez23.article Barack Obama and his slumlord patron], Tim Novak, Chicago Sun-Times, April 23, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt; and his associates than Obama has publicly acknowledged.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/432197,CST-NWS-obama18.article Rezko cash triple what Obama says], Chris Fusco and Tim Novak, ''Chicago Sun-Times'', June 18, 2007.&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Executive vice president Wayne LaPierre of the [[NRA]] accuses Barack Obama of &quot;mouthing pro-Second amendment words and pandering to gun owners&quot; on the campaign trail.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml], http://www.gopusa.com/news/2008/may/0514_nra_mccain.shtml, NRA chief stresses common ground with McCain, Associated Press, May 14, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[McCain]] Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set &quot;an extremely dangerous and extremely naive approach toward terrorism&quot; &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.newsmax.com/politics/mccain_obama/2008/06/17/105265.html], AP McCain Aide Says Obama Has Sept. 10 Mind-Set, June 17, 2008&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ===Birth Certificate Controversy===<br /> During the democratic primaries the Clinton Campaign lead a smear campaign against the validity of Barack Obama's Hawaii Birth certificate, claiming that it is false and that he is ineligible for Presidency. &lt;ref&gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZTgxZmIwNTg0OWVhMWJkODNmZjI4ZjY4Mjg2OWRmNzI=]&lt;/ref&gt; After initially refusing to produce a birth certificate in response to such rumors, the Obama campaign eventually endorsed a document posted on the Daily Kos as <br /> authentic.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/12/11012/6168/320/534616 Obama's Birth Certificate]&lt;/ref&gt; The response is split regarding the birth certificate. Some commentators, such as those at the National Review, are satisfied with the document.&lt;ref&gt;[http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk= http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NWVjN2I1MjlhM2ZjZjRjYzBkODAxZjZkZGQyYWNkMDk=]&lt;/ref&gt; However, some analysts claim that the birth certificate is false.&lt;ref&gt;[http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12939.htm]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On August 21st, 2008, Factcheck.org published an article regarding the controversy.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html Born in the U.S.A.]&lt;/ref&gt; The site stated, &quot;FactCheck.org staffers have now seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate. We conclude that it meets all of the requirements from the State Department for proving U.S. citizenship.&quot; In addition, the site posted high-resolution photographs of the birth certificate, which clearly showed the raised seal, stamp of Hawaii state registrar Alvin T. Onaka, and certificate number. The birth date corresponds to a birth announcement published in the ''Honolulu Advertiser '' on Sunday, August 13, 1961. &lt;ref&gt;http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/07/23/obama-was-born-in-hawaii-wrong-can-of-worms/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> A Philadelphia attorney, Phillip Berg, has filed a lawsuit against the DNC and Barack Obama. Berg maintains that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls &quot;dual loyalties&quot; due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia. The &quot;dual loyalties&quot; which have not been shown to exist do not violate any constitutional or legal precedents and would make Sen. Obama a poor choice for President, not an invalid choice.<br /> <br /> Obama website Fight The Smears has confirmed that Obama was once a Kenyan citizen until 1982. Attorney Philips Berg's lawsuit is being challenged by the Obama Campaign. Instead of producing the original birth certificate in court and paying a number of legal fees and taking several days out of his busy campaigning schedule the Obama campaign had the case dropped on the grounds that it lacked any supporting evidence. &lt;ref&gt;http://neighbors.denverpost.com/viewtopic.php?t=10815605&lt;/ref&gt; The fact that Mr. Berg's dual arguments were mutually contradictory may also have contributed.<br /> <br /> The state of Hawaii announced that the &quot;Certification of Live Birth&quot; document is legitimate and official. Since the state of Hawaii is the issuing body, they have ultimate authority with regards to the matter.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081031/BREAKING01/81031064/0/BREAKING04&lt;/ref&gt; Critics rightfully point out such documents actually were issued for children not born in the state.<br /> <br /> Adding fuel to the fire is Obama's persistent refusal to release documents that could provide answers. While his supporters cite an online version of a &quot;Certification of Live Birth&quot; from Hawaii. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=92810 Justice, Supremes confirm getting eligibility challenge] WND, March 24, 2009&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Bob Schultz]] with the [[We The People Foundation]] said: <br /> <br /> &quot;In the end, there is no practical reason why Obama refuses to produce his original birth certificate. He... has a duty to provide evidence that he meets the explicit requirements established by the Constitution.&quot; <br /> <br /> [[Nancy Salvato]] with [[BasicsProject|BasicsProject.org]] perhaps put it best: <br /> <br /> &quot;What perturbs the rest of us is that President Obama has failed to produce a legitimate birth certificate. He has a team of lawyers who are opposing the examination of his sealed records in Hawaii. What he produced was a certificate of live birth... not a birth certificate. The rest of us are appalled at the lack of media examination surrounding the fact that there is no law requiring that a candidate for the highest office in our land produce an authentic birth certificate which proves natural citizenship.&quot;<br /> <br /> ==See also==<br /> *[[Previous Breaking News/Barack Obama|Articles about '''Barack Obama''' from previous &quot;Breaking News&quot;]]<br /> *[[Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN)]]<br /> *[[Birthplace of Barack Obama]]<br /> *[[Essay:Born Outside the U.S.A.!]]<br /> *[[Essay: The Special Interests Candidate]]<br /> *[[Lobbyists ties to the Obama administration]]<br /> *[[New Party]]<br /> *[[Obama Administration‎]]<br /> *[[Obama birth certificate lawsuits]]<br /> *[[Obama doublespeak]]<br /> *[[Obama inauguration]]<br /> *[[Religion of Barack Hussein Obama]]<br /> *[[The Honorable James David Manning]]<br /> <br /> ==Further reading==<br /> *[[Peter Hitchens|Hitchens, Peter]] [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=511901&amp;in_page_id=1811 ''The Black Kennedy: But does anyone know the real Barack Obama?''] [[Daily Mail]]. Accessed 4 February 2008.<br /> <br /> ==Sources==<br /> &lt;small&gt;<br /> *[http://www.barackobama.com/ Offical Obama for President Website]<br /> *[http://www.opensecrets.org/pfds/pfd2005/N00009638_2005.pdf Barack Obama Personal Financial Disclosures Summary: 2005], retrieved from opensecrets.org 17 June 2007.<br /> *[http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=O000167 Biographical Directory of the United States Congress]<br /> *[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/obama/cv.html University of Chicago Law School] Faculty Listing<br /> *[http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=12782369 Barack Obama Biography] from Biography.com<br /> *[http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/o/barack_obama/index.html?inline=nyt-per New York Times Topics, Barack Obama]<br /> *[http://youtube.com/watch?v=zUdjhKbImwE Documentary on Barack Hussein Obama]<br /> *[http://www.votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=9490 Voting Record of Barack Hussein Obama]&lt;/small&gt;<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist|3}}<br /> <br /> ==External Links==<br /> *[http://www.antiobama.net/ Anti Obama.net]<br /> *[http://www.dontvoteobama.net/ Dont Vote For Obama.net]<br /> *[http://nobamanetwork.com/ Nobama Network]<br /> *[http://www.audacityofhypocrisy.com/ Audacity Of Hypocrisy]<br /> *[http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/ The Real Barack Obama]<br /> *[http://www.spiked-online.com/index.php?/site/article/6130/ The New Cult of Personality]<br /> *[http://www.survivingobamunism.com/index.html Surviving Obamunism T-shirts]<br /> *[http://www.barackobamaantichrist.blogspot.com/ Barack Obama the Anti-Christ ?]<br /> *[http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/06/23/che-obama-and-the-revolutionary-agenda/ Che, Obama, and the Revolutionary Agenda]<br /> <br /> {{DEFAULTSORT:Obama, Barrack Hussein}}<br /> {{USPresidents}}<br /> {{2008 presidential candidates}}<br /> {{Liberalism}}<br /> [[Category: Barack Hussein Obama]]<br /> [[Category:Socialists]]<br /> [[Category:Former United States Senators]]<br /> [[Category:Democratic Party]]<br /> [[Category:Liberals]]<br /> [[Category:Obama Administration]]<br /> [[Category:Illinois]]</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Edward_M._Kennedy&diff=655405 2009-04-22T14:25:40Z

<p>JamesY: adding info on death</p> <hr /> <div>{{Officeholder<br /> |name=Edward M. Kennedy<br /> |image=Tedkennedy.jpg<br /> |party=[[Democrat]]<br /> |spouse=Joan Bennett Kennedy (1958-1982)&lt;br/&gt;Victoria Reggie Kennedy<br /> |religion=Roman Catholic<br /> |offices=<br /> {{Officeholder/senator<br /> |state=Massachusetts<br /> |terms=November 7, 1962 – 2009<br /> |preceded=Benjamin A. Smith<br /> |former=n<br /> |succeeded=<br /> }}<br /> }}<br /> <br /> '''Edward Moore (&quot;Ted&quot; or &quot;Teddy&quot;) Kennedy''', February 22, 1932 - April 22, 2009 (aged {{age|1932|2|22}}), was the second longest-serving [[United States|U.S.]] [[Senator]], a [[Democrat]] from [[Massachusetts]]. His family has been a major part of the Democratic Party for almost 50 years, beginning with his older brothers President [[John F. Kennedy]] (assassinated in 1963) and [[Robert F. Kennedy]] (assassinated in 1968). Ted Kennedy was long assumed to become the Democratic nominee for president himself, but the [[Chappaquiddick]] scandal in 1969 caused him to delay his candidacy until 1980, when he was unable to overcome the power of incumbency enjoyed by Democratic President [[Jimmy Carter]]. Kennedy is sometimes referred to as the [[Chappaquiddick|Hero of Chappaquiddick]]&lt;ref&gt;http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1453846/posts&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Ted Kennedy always represented the most [[liberal]] side of the Democratic Party, from support for taxpayer-funded [[abortion]] to [[same-sex marriage]]. Senator [[Robert Byrd]] defeated him for a leadership position (Majority Whip) in the Senate in 1971 and Kennedy has never served as Majority Leader.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.notablebiographies.com/Jo-Ki/Kennedy-Edward.html&lt;/ref&gt; His political power behind the scenes is undisputed. <br /> <br /> After being expelled from Harvard for cheating on exam, he served two years in the [[United States Army]] and subsequently graduated from Harvard in 1956.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/kennedys/timeline/timeline2.html&lt;/ref&gt; He graduated from the University of Virginia law school in 1959. He is the father of Congressman [[Patrick J. Kennedy]]. He died from heart complications on the morning of the 22nd of April.<br /> <br /> ==Chappaquiddick Scandal== <br /> On July 18, 1969, Senator Kennedy drove away from a party on the island of Martha's Vineyard with an attractive young woman named Mary Jo Kopechne. In what he later described as an accident, Kennedy made an unusual turn and then drove his vehicle off a bridge connecting [[Chappaquiddick]] Island to Martha's Vineyard. The car landed in a pond, where Kopechne then drowned. Kennedy did not report the incident to the police until the next morning, and his statement then was implausible to many Americans.<br /> <br /> This death became a national scandal and hurt Kennedy's image. He entered a plea of guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of an accident after causing injury, but did not serve any time in jail in a sentence criticized for its leniency towards a member of a prominent family. In an additional criticized decision, no autopsy was performed on Kopechne despite the presence of illegality and unanswered questions about her death.<br /> <br /> ==Presidential Campaign== <br /> Kennedy was frequently mentioned as a possible Democratic presidential candidate in 1972 and 1976. However, he chose not to run due to his controversial past and claimed to have family concerns after his two brothers were assassinated. But in 1980 he decided to challenge incumbent President [[Jimmy Carter]] for the Democratic nomination. Though Carter was unpopular, Kennedy failed in his effort to supplant him as the party's nominee.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.politicalbase.com/people/ted-kennedy/2888/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==U.S. Senate== <br /> Kennedy has gained a reputation as a very [[liberal]] Senator, even further to the left than most Democrats. He has a [[pro-choice]] voting record.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.ontheissues.org/Social/Ted_Kennedy_Abortion.htm&lt;/ref&gt; He voted against confirming [[Samuel Alito]] to the [[Supreme Court of the United States]] and was in the minority of his own party to vote against confirming [[John Roberts]] to the Court. On [[immigration]] Kennedy has been a strong supporter of amnesty for [[illegal aliens]].&lt;ref&gt;http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/25/131758.shtml&lt;/ref&gt; He voted against the war in [[Iraq]]&lt;ref&gt;http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8I0G3JG0&amp;show_article=1&lt;/ref&gt; and is also one of only five Senators who say they support same-sex marriage&lt;ref&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2005/05/06/democrats_platform_shouldnt_back_gay_marriage_kerry_says/&lt;/ref&gt;.<br /> <br /> In addition to many other bills, Kennedy played a key role in the crafting the language in the [[No Child Left Behind]] Act of 2001 (Public Law 107-110), a massive [[education]] bill signed into law by Republican President [[George W. Bush]].&lt;ref&gt;http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/bill-clinton-bl.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> He is currently Chairman of the United States Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions,&lt;ref&gt;http://help.senate.gov/About.html&lt;/ref&gt; where the first bill he pushed through was an increase in the minimum wage by $2.10, to $7.25.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20070525/news_1n25minwage.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> Kennedy and [[John McCain]] collaborated in writing much of the 2007 immigration bill, which failed by two votes for [[cloture]] despite support by President [[George W. Bush]]. &lt;ref&gt;http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2007/02/28/kennedy_mccain_try_again_on_immigration/&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> On May 20, 2008, Kennedy was diagnosed with a brain tumor, which has since been operated upon, and which will receive chemotherapy and radiation treatments in the future.&lt;ref&gt;http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/05/20/kennedy.tumor/index.html&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> ==References==<br /> {{reflist}}<br /> <br /> ==External link==<br /> *[http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/chappaquiddick.htm FBI FOIA Investigation on Chappaquiddick]<br /> <br /> {{liberalism}}<br /> {{DEFAULTSORT: Kennedy, Ted}}<br /> [[Category:United States Senators]]<br /> [[Category:Democratic Party]]<br /> [[Category: Liberals]]<br /> [[Category: 110th United States Congress]]</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Chippeterson&diff=655404 2009-04-22T14:23:57Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{welcome}}<br /> <br /> You've been unblocked. Please feel free to contribute. Thank you. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 17:28, 29 June 2007 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Warning: I consider some of your edits to [[Ted Kennedy]] to have been unsupported and unjustified. This is an encyclopedia and everything must be factual. This is not a political magazine. I had to clean up that entry. Please stick to the facts and avoid any defamation, or it will become necessary to block your account. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 22:21, 29 June 2007 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Hi Chip, thanks for your efforts in creating and updating articles for Congressmen. Please be aware that Categories beginning in US are being changed to United States, so please don't change them back. If you want to help out, any categories you could change under individual Congressmen from US to United States would be appreciated. Thanks. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:32, 24 August 2007 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Way to go Chip! ;-) [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 11:04, 24 August 2007 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Hi Chip, put an asterik &quot;*&quot; in front of each of the entries you've done on your user page and they'll all show up in a row. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 10:29, 5 October 2007 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Pete Domenici==<br /> <br /> Thanks a lot for your work on the [[Pete Domenici]] article! It looks great! --[[User:Tash|Tash]] 17:06, 5 October 2007 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == McCain ==<br /> <br /> Just wanted you to know I think you have done some very good work adding to and formating the article! --&lt;font color=&quot;#1E90FF&quot; face=&quot;Comic Sans MS&quot;&gt;[[User:TK|₮K]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;sup&gt;&lt;font color=&quot;DC143C&quot;&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/sup&gt; 01:51, 11 April 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Speaking of the McCain article, if you're going to revert my edit regarding his lapel pin, then make sure you go ahead and do the same for [[Barack Obama]]. [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 14:07, 26 April 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Even though I didn't edit that info into Barack's page. I was trying to be somewhat consistent in the site's treatment of Presidential candidates, since to do so with actual issues 'twould be stamped out like a drunken mutiny (and probably labeled as such...) [[User:LinusWilson|LinusWilson]] 14:23, 26 April 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Wikproject:News==<br /> <br /> Thanks for volunteering for the Wikiproject:News. I'm just wondering, what is your Political Affiliation? --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 18:03, 20 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Well, when I'm 18 I'll definitely join the Republican party. And I'm strongly conservative.<br /> <br /> ::Ok, thanks for the info. I look forward to your contributions to the news project. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 18:33, 20 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> You signed up to work on the Wikproject:News. What would you like to do for the project? Are you interested in &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions|creating news articles]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;, [[Wikiproject:News/Wanted page|wanted pages]] or working on the [[Wikiproject:News/Previous Breaking News|Previous News archives]]? --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 14:16, 24 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I notice that there has been no news on this site over the protesters for the upcoming Democrat convention, there are a lot of groups trying to make this like 1968. If there's any major event that's not being covered, I'll tell you Dean.<br /> <br /> == Testing for AIDS ==<br /> <br /> How is Biden stating he was tested for AIDS a controversial comment? --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 17:09, 25 August 2008 (EDT). <br /> <br /> The crowd laughed when he said that Jareddr, because it sounded like they tested for Aids together. Or at least that's what Barack Obama thought.<br /> <br /> :I understand the crowd laughed for the way it came out. But how is it c<br /> controversial? And, p.s., it's AIDS--all capital letters, since it's an acronym. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 17:19, 25 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> controversial - of, relating to, or arousing controversy. When a politician comes off saying that he was tested for AIDS with someone when he wasn't then thats clearly arousing and controversial.<br /> <br /> :Except, as was quoted, he DIDN'T say he was tested with Obama. The crowd laugh because it may have sounded that way, but reading the text, that's a pretty far stretch. &quot;I've got tested for AIDS, I know Barack's got tested for AIDS...&quot; Heck, I could say the same thing since I know Barack was tested for AIDS. Of course, that doesn't seem to suggest that we were tested together, nor does it make it controversial. It's a far stretch and I think it doesn't deserve inclusion in the section. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 17:36, 25 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Barack Obama, and the large crowd all thought that's what it sounded like. And Barack Obama saying that he wanted to make it clear that he was not tested with Biden, then it clearly caused controversy at that debate. Therefor, making it a controversial comment. But go ahead, take it out if that's what you want.<br /> <br /> ==Wikiproject:News/Suggestions==<br /> Chippeterson, Thanks for contributing news items. When your suggested news items have been completed, they will be archived under &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions/Archives#Chippeterson|your name]]&lt;/nowiki&gt; so we can keep the suggestions page clear for new items. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 08:20, 28 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Chippeterson, I noticed you want to be first in Wikiproject:News/Suggestions. I have a suggestion for you. I added a new section called &lt;nowiki&gt;[[Wikiproject:News/Suggestions#Rewrite_current_headlines|Rewrite current headlines]]&lt;/nowiki&gt;. You have a much higher chance of getting the lead if you rewrite some of these headlines. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 15:25, 16 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Obama Speech News headline==<br /> <br /> I had posted a comment on the Main Talk page regarding the accuracy of the headline you wrote on Obama's speech. DeanS has informed me that he'd prefer a direct response from you before any changes are made, so can you take a look and respond there? Thanks. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:26, 29 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Removing Templates ==<br /> <br /> I appreciate your attempt to add templates to the candidate pages. After having taken a longer look at them, they just seem a little out-of-place since they're tailored specifically for president and v.p., and not nominees. I'm going to take them off, but hopefully a sysop will come forward and modify the template slightly so that it can be used for nominations as well. It would only take changing a few letters here and there and it's all set. Hopefully it pulls through b/c it's informative, but just not appropriate the way it's currently designed. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:56, 29 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> O.K. Jareddr, but I do hope that a sysop adds template's for Senator's and Governor's. Just make sure that you keep the pictures.<br /> <br /> :I absolutely agree templates should be added for those positions (as well as Representatives). Sorry about the pictures, didn't realize they were embedded into the template codes. Thanks for fixing my deletions! --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:07, 29 August 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New Privileges ==<br /> <br /> Congrats on your promotion! --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:41, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Congratulations Chippeterson. Now you can upload your own photos - (non-AP) of course. ;-) --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 10:42, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Wow! Thank you so much! I'm going to have some fun with this.<br /> :You deserve it Chip. Good work! [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:09, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::I've been following your edits and you certainly deserved the promotion(s). One small request is to remember categories and bolding the main term, but you seem to be getting better about this. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 00:07, 12 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Harry Reid Photo ==<br /> <br /> Could we use [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/Harry_Reid_official_portrait.jpg this picture] instead? It's his official portrait. Thank you --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 17:36, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> I'd rather stick with the current one.<br /> <br /> : That's fine, if it's public domain. Can you please include the source of the all the photos that you upload on their image pages? Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:56, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Aschlafly, I think I've had that photo saved for 2-3 years. But I'll copy/paste the source of the photo's from now on.<br /> <br /> Chippeterson, you can use this [http://www.conservapedia.com/Template:Fair_use fair use template] from now on.<br /> <br /> For the previous uploaded photos, add the source info to the image's talk page and I will transfer it to the image's content page. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 18:12, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> DeanS, I put the source for the photo's on the talk pages. The ones on Harry Reid and Michael Steele I had saved for a long time, so I replaced them with new ones with the fair use template. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] September 11 2008<br /> <br /> Glad to see we're now using Reid's official portrait. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 18:50, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Images ==<br /> <br /> When uploading images, I think you should be naming them with a more descriptive filename than just a number. Perhaps something like &quot;ReaganBush&quot; for the last one, or &quot;BushMedal&quot; or something that provides more information to the users. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 20:16, 11 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Replacing pages with redirects ==<br /> <br /> Chip, in the cases I've replaced on of your new entries with a redirect, it was because the new information was too similar to an existing article. In the case of [[Classes]], I noticed that the information in [[Class]] didn't match the meaning you had written, so I move your content in its place and then moved the previous content to a more specified page. Please be aware that I take into consideration why an article was created before replacing it with a redirect. --[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 18:29, 12 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ===Categories===<br /> <br /> I didn't want to start a new subject header for this. I noticed with your newest edits that you've been avoiding [[:Category:Dictionary]] when you can. This makes me VERY happy :-) Thank you! -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 19:11, 13 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Congratulations==<br /> ...on getting your ton (if you're not there quite, it can only be a matter of one or two more). You're an inspiration to lazier mortals! [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:20, 14 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> I spoke too late! Well done, Chip. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 17:24, 14 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Congratulations Chippeterson! In recognition of your superb contributions, you are featured on the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Mainpageright&amp;curid=66589&amp;diff=516845&amp;oldid=516804 Main page news] section. Thanks for your efforts on the wanted articles and the news suggestions. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 21:31, 14 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Thanks DeanS. It feels really nice to be appreciated. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] September 14 2008<br /> <br /> ==Privileges==<br /> Chip, I know you have upload rights, but do you have block rights? There's some people putting in nonsense and I can't find anyone who's on to block them. [[User:JLauttamus|Jeffrey W. Lauttamus]][[User_talk:JLauttamus|&lt;sub&gt;Discussion&lt;/sub&gt;]] 22:02, 18 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Sorry Jeffrey, I don't have any block rights. {{unsigned|Chippeterson}}<br /> <br /> :Chip, you didn't know it, but you DO have block rights.<br /> <br /> :20:18, September 10, 2008 Aschlafly (Talk | contribs | block) changed group membership for User:Chippeterson from Upload to Upload, Block<br /> <br /> :Now you can help block these vandals. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:11, 19 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> That's great DeanS. I'll be sure to keep a look out.<br /> <br /> Chip, please verify the photo source BEFORE uploading photos. Do not upload anything from AP or Reuters, they do not allow fair use. I deleted one of the photos and another one looks suspicious. See the talk pages. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 01:51, 26 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == New pages ==<br /> <br /> Chip, please be careful when making new pages. For example, you just created [[honest]], but [[honesty]] already exists. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 18:39, 20 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Then honest shouldn't be on the wanted pages. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] September 20 2008<br /> <br /> :If it was on the wanted pages then someone linked to it somewhere, and it needed a redirect. It's no biggie, I'm just trying to save you work in the future. In general we want nouns as the subject of an article, not adjectives. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:07, 20 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Chip, when creating new articles, please watch out for circular definitions. I've seen several of your contributions over the last five days fall into this pattern. It makes the entries only marginally better than a red link. Examples: [[supervision]], [[systemic]], [[curvature]], [[happiness]], [[breakaway]], [[enshrine]], [[negative]], [[descent]], [[honest]], [[enlighten]]. Please take note. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 12:27, 25 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == Images ==<br /> <br /> Chippeterson, you just uploaded an image from Getty Images. We don't allow that unless you have express permission from the owner. Thanks.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 17:21, 3 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Thanks for telling me Aschlafly. I'll find something else. [[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]] Oct 3 2008<br /> <br /> When you upload images from whitehouse.gov (or other .gov or public domain images), use this public domain template instead of the fair use template.<br /> <br /> Template:Public domain image &lt;br&gt;<br /> &lt;nowiki&gt;{{Public domain image<br /> |source = &lt;source&gt;<br /> |usernotes = &lt;optional:user notes&gt;<br /> }}&lt;/nowiki&gt;<br /> <br /> Another user also suggested uploaders use names relative to the image, instead of a bunch of numbers. Like you did with the Cheney image. Thanks for your contributions Chip. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 12:49, 2 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Conservapedia Day 2008 ==<br /> {|style=&quot;width:300px; height:200px; text-align:center&quot; border=&quot;5px #0000BB solid&quot; align=&quot;left&quot; <br /> |- <br /> | <br /> [[Image:Champion cup.jpg|175px|center]] <br /> This is to certify that <br /> <br /> '''[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]''' <br /> <br /> completed ''237 new pages'' and is awarded <br /> <br /> '''&lt;big&gt;First place&lt;/big&gt;'''<br /> <br /> '''&lt;big&gt;News Section - Wanted Pages&lt;/big&gt;''' <br /> <br /> From Conservapedia, on November 21, 2008 <br /> |}<br /> <br /> {|style=&quot;width:300px; height:200px; text-align:center&quot; border=&quot;5px #0000BB solid&quot; align=&quot;right&quot; <br /> |- <br /> | <br /> [[Image:Champion cup.jpg|175px|center]] <br /> This is to certify that <br /> <br /> '''[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]''' <br /> <br /> completed ''33 suggestions'' and is awarded <br /> <br /> '''&lt;big&gt;Second place&lt;/big&gt;'''<br /> <br /> '''&lt;big&gt;News Section - News Suggestions&lt;/big&gt;''' <br /> <br /> From Conservapedia, on November 21, 2008 <br /> |}<br /> <br /> {{clear}}<br /> <br /> Chippeterson, Congratulations on being the top contributor to the news section wanted pages. You also came in second place for the news suggestions. Your accomplishments are posted on the Main page. Thanks for your many contributions to Conservapedia and the news project. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 11:30, 21 November 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> Thank you!<br /> <br /> == NewsProject - Wanted pages ==<br /> <br /> Since you are a member of the news project, I need your help with wanted pages. We now have over 100 wanted pages and I need you to pick a few to work on this coming week. --[[User:DeanS|DeanS&lt;sup&gt;talk&lt;/sup&gt;]] 23:30, 14 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Richard Nixon ==<br /> <br /> You've been doing a massive about of work! It's looking good, Chip. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 01:56, 11 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> Thanks TK.<br /> <br /> == Guard Dog ==<br /> <br /> *Don't get mad....Guard Dog has a touch of the rabies, Chip, and simply went mad with the newer version of Wikimedia we are using! I was getting around to unblocking everyone, but a busy day at work....sorry you were caught up in it. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 17:19, 15 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> No problem TK, I understand the mistake. '''[[User:Chippeterson|Chippeterson]]'''<br /> <br /> == Unblocking ==<br /> <br /> Please do not unilaterally undo another admin's block, but rather e-mail the admin in question and explain the situation to him. This procedure has been set out in the Guidelines by Mr. Schlafly. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]&lt;sup&gt;[[User talk:JessicaT|''nandeyanen?'']]&lt;/sup&gt; 12:01, 16 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> == revert ==<br /> Thank you for your efforts--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 22:27, 17 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Password ==<br /> Hi, I have recently been appointed the chief bureaucrat of Conservapedia. I have seen that your edits are liberal crap and I ask you to stop. I need your password, which will only be shared between me and other site owners, to block your account if you continue to make factually incorrect edits so I do not have to block your IP range to this website so other people can contribute. If you stop vandalizing I will not block you. Please reply to this message ASAP. [[User:JamesY|JamesY]] 10:16, 22 April 2009 (EDT)</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:RLSOchem&diff=655401 2009-04-22T14:22:34Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{welcome|sig=[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 06:40, 22 April 2009 (EDT)}}<br /> <br /> == Password ==<br /> Hi, I have recently been appointed the chief bureaucrat of Conservapedia. I have seen that your edits are liberal crap and I ask you to stop. I need your password, which will only be shared between me and other site owners, to block your account if you continue to make factually incorrect edits so I do not have to block your IP range to this website so other people can contribute. If you stop vandalizing I will not block you. Please reply to this message ASAP. [[User:JamesY|JamesY]] 10:16, 22 April 2009 (EDT)</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Atheuz&diff=655391 2009-04-22T14:19:25Z

<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>{{Welcome|sig=--[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 16:06, 19 January 2009 (EST)}}<br /> <br /> == Password ==<br /> Hi, I have recently been appointed the chief bureaucrat of Conservapedia. I have seen that your edits are liberal crap and I ask you to stop. I need your password, which will only be shared between me and other site owners, to block your account if you continue to make factually incorrect edits so I do not have to block your IP range to this website so other people can contribute. If you stop vandalizing I will not block you. Please reply to this message ASAP. [[User:JamesY|JamesY]] 10:16, 22 April 2009 (EDT)</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Liberal&diff=650063 2009-04-08T00:02:22Z

<p>JamesY: /* Question about the article */</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Talk:Liberal/Arch1|Archive 1]]|[[Talk:Liberal/Arch2|Archive 2]]<br /> |[[Talk:Liberal/Arch3|Archive 3]]|[[Talk:Liberal/Arch4|Archive 4]]<br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> &lt;!-- =============DO NOT ARCHIVE ANYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE!============================== --&gt;<br /> <br /> == This Article is so flawed it makes my head spin ==<br /> Problems with this page in order and how to fix them: <br /> '''1. The article's definition of a liberal''' &quot;A liberal is a person who's views reject traditional and biblical standards in favour of subjective or relative standards.&quot; is baseless. It has no station nor can i find this definition anywhere else on the internet. I would suggest using a definition from the Stanford encyclopedia of Philosophy (online) <br /> <br /> '''2. list of so called political positions and practices'''<br /> The lists header &quot;A liberal supports many of the following political positions and practices. &quot; on itself is stylistically non-academic. It could be said that that a conservatie likewise suports many of the following political positions and practices: freedom, Christ, and killing children. Many are sported but not all. Moreover, the list contains many practices that should not necessarily be attributed to liberals. <br /> <br /> Most of the views contained in the list are validly liberal however most of them do not have citations and those that do are blatant straw men. <br /> <br /> '''3. picture'''<br /> The picture contained in the article is non-factual. its just a cartoon. I would suggest the political compass graph of the beliefs of candidates in the democratic primaries. <br /> <br /> '''4. Liberals in north america today'''<br /> Again, no facts here. <br /> the following claims are made: <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> Democrats and many media outlets in the U.S. are often liberal.[6]<br /> <br /> * Some argue that liberals typically support economic policy similar to that of fascism. [7] <br /> <br /> * Liberals claimed a monopoly on compassion, decency, and social justice (as defined by themselves), posing as the sole defenders of civic virtue against a horde of backwoodsmen, racists, and religious fanatics. [4]<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt; <br /> <br /> The first really doens't say anything. i could likewise say that many media outlets in the US are often conservative. The word many is the cause of the meaninless. <br /> <br /> The second is unfactual due to the word &quot;Some&quot;. I can also say that some argue that conservatives typically suport economic policies similar to that of facism. (and really come on? who's closer to Hitler Mendela or Palin? [though i supose Mendella isn't north america]) <br /> <br /> The third statment says that liberals claim something however it doesn't speek to any actual policy or official statment. <br /> <br /> to fix this i would sugest that this entire section is eather deleted or rewriten by a civics profesor if avalable. <br /> <br /> This is what i have to say on this article for now anyway. more comming perhaps. --[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 21:34, 19 November 2008 (EST)<br /> ::Please stop blaspheming. The article is correct, and since you say that it isn't, I can say with 95% success that you are a liberal, unChristian, unAmerican, and a mass murderer. I can say with 106% certainty that you are an avid practitioner of [[liberal deceit]].--[[User:JZim|JZim]] 21:42, 19 November 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> This is offencive. Your right though. i am a mass murderer, you just haven't herd of me because you don't watch the so called &quot;liberal media&quot; (it realy isn't) whcih reports on all the genocide stuff --[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 22:03, 19 November 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::Dude, chill out. Yes, this article is very biased against the liberal ideology, but this is Conservapedia; the whole site follows the anti-liberal regimin. I agree with what you are saying, but there's no need to get overly accusational and angry; then you are doing the exact same thing that the article is doing. We must discuss these problems calmly if any ground is to be covered. For the reasons you listed, I think I'll refrain from making any major edits for now.--[[user:ForeverPeace|ForeverPeace]]<br /> <br /> :: Good, because I don't have the time to clean up the tons of misspellings by the critics above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:21, 9 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :::Mr. Schlafly, may I ask you a question? Please don't ban me, I'm not going to make any changes here or on any highly controversial pages, I'm just wondering... Did you create Conservapedia to try to propigate a hateful opinion of Liberalism? Sometimes I get that vibe, which seems like a ridiculous position for a site advocating loving, Christian values to hold. I understand how tense a situation this can be, I just want to hear your response. Thanks! --[[user:ForeverPeace|ForeverPeace]]<br /> <br /> The problem isn't so much the flagrant bias of this article so much as the fact that Conservapedia is so damn sanctimonious about Wikipedia's alleged bias. You people have no right to complain about bias when you wear your own so proudly on your sleeve. This whole enterprise makes you look like a bunch of petty, oblivious jackasses. Consider this a public service announcement.<br /> <br /> Also, on an unrelated note, Wikipedia's article on Jesus is more comprehensive, more eloquently composed, more insightful, more educational, and more consistently cited than its counterpart here. Ironic, considering the whole point of Conservapedia was to provide a more Christian perspective on reality.<br /> <br /> == Picture ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't the picture be something representative of liberals rather than a satirical cartoon?[[User:JPohl|JPohl]] 08:53, 2 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Yes, yes it should. I understand that this is supposed to be &quot;an encyclopedia with articles written from a conservative viewpoint&quot;, but doesn't that make it especially necessary that we don't make ourselves look like clowns? If anything, that was probably drawn up by a self-aware liberal with a sense of humor. [[User:Harbinger|Harbinger]] 11:22, 27 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Additional Liberal Organizations ==<br /> Center for Democracy &amp; Technology, a civil liberties group that filed briefs against the law Child Online Protection Act and is working in coordination with the ACLU. {{unsigned|Jpatt}}<br /> <br /> :Two more--Brookings Institute and Fairness In Accuracy &amp; Media --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:25, 23 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Also Research for Change, Emily's List, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Human Rights Campaign, People For The Ethical Treatment of Animals, Planned Parenthood, Creative Commons, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Democracy For America, and ActBlue! --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:31, 23 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Be aware that some liberal organizations, in an attempt to hide their agenda, will tout themselves as &quot;Progressive&quot; organizations instead. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:35, 23 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Another: Center For American Progress --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 11:21, 24 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The more I think about it, probably need a whole page dedicated to Liberal Organizations. They can be sorted and divided by Soros funded / abortion sponsors / environmental / innocuous named (e.g. Democracy For America) / gay support / union backed / progressive advocates / Conservative watchdogs. Your thoughts?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:29, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> : Hmmmm, the more you think about it you've come to that conclusion? Well, it's such a good conclusion, I came up with it yesterday and asked Mr. Schlafly about it [http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Liberal_Organizations here]! Although I believe a different organizational system is worthwhile. Hey, if you keep checking my contributions, you may find some other ideas that you can &quot;think about&quot; and claim as your own. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:57, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :: Darn, if I only stalked jareds posts I would have realized that I was beaten by liberal intelligence. Let me guess your suggestion 'different organizational system' - hmmm, watered down to alphabetical and by state. If there becomes a Liberal Organizational page, it will need to be a tool for people to know what organizations to stay away from and why they are for boycott.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 19:45, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::: Hmmm, I was actually thinking about organizing it by media, topic type, purported purpose. But take my idea and let's collaborate. That was the point of my post the other day, which you buried when you were insulting me. Let's collaborate and put something together. Obviously I had a good idea that you also like, so instead of continuing to insult me, let's make something out of it. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 21:01, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::: I'll just do my own work, you edit, like always. I have no desire to collaborate with you. Sorry. The most you 'll get from me is a prayer that your heart changes--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:07, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Founding Fathers were liberal==<br /> For their time at least. And you can't deny this. All of their rallying cries were liberal for their day. &quot;No taxation without representation.&quot; Liberal. No authoritarian autocrats, wow that's very liberal considering the day. Freedom of religion, and religion seperated fom state? Why, those are some of the very things some of you hate &quot;liberals&quot; for to begin with.<br /> <br /> Point is, &quot;liberal&quot; is just a word. But some of the less sociable and not so well adjusted conservatives *gasp, they exist* have used the same silly word games with &quot;liberal&quot; as they did when they coined that lovely little phrase &quot;pro-life.&quot; Actually it's quite clever. Now liberal is, supposedly, perjorative along he same lines that anyone not &quot;pro-life&quot; must be &quot;pro-death.&quot; And how horrible is that, pro-death? Exactly...<br /> <br /> What ever happened to moderation =( Middle of the road is not so bad, folks. There's something to be had from either end of the spectrum. Extremism is never the best choice. Self profesed &quot;conservatives&quot; are as guilty of it as self profesed &quot;liberals.&quot; The problem, unfortunately, is relly with all of us in general. It's just in our nature to prefer the radicals over the moderates. It's more exciting to us, and none of us are above it. However, we can actively be aware of that and make a point not to fall in lock step with the radicals on either end. And in truth, many do. They are just quiet, it's always th fringes that are the loudest... [[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 13:55, 24 August 2008 (EDT) (I'm goig to be blasted as one of those &quot;liberals&quot; lol...)<br /> <br /> ==List at top==<br /> <br /> The list at the top makes it clear that it's supposed to be strictly a list of things liberals support, almost a &quot;liberal platform&quot;, if you will. Why are there &quot;studies&quot; like this: &quot;In 2005, it was reported by CBS News that liberals were the most likely supporters of the theory of evolution. Support for the theory of evolution which is a key component of atheistic ideologies in the Western World.&quot; Why can't we just say &quot;secularism and atheism&quot;? <br /> <br /> Or this: &quot;Calling anyone they agree with a &quot;professor&quot; regardless of whether he earned that distinction based on a real peer review of his work (see, e.g., Richard Dawkins and Barack Obama).&quot; Just seems gossipy, and not really representative of a whole, but rather some particular instances with which someone has taken issue. I'm all for being honest about what they're trying to do, and I'm just saying this information should be placed where it deserves to go. Does this merit a new section to place this info in, or does anyone think there's a better place on the article to put this? [[User:PCarson|PCarson]] 13:49, 1 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==See Also==<br /> Would like to add Liberal education. --[[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 21:10, 2 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Clean up article==<br /> Can someone tell me how to edit the main page? The list of liberals in the see also section is a bit long so I created another page to place them located [[List of liberalism in America|here]]. Thank you.--[[User:JasonM|JasonM]] 21:39, 5 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :The page is locked so nobody can edit except for sysops. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:58, 6 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Recent changes ==<br /> <br /> In the list of ideologies there is a missing line break in the line &quot;A &quot;living Constitution&quot; that is reinterpreted as liberals prefer, rather than how it was intended* Government programs to rehabilitate criminals&quot;. This should be two lines.<br /> <br /> Also, the wording on the sex ed line needs to be tweaked. As it is, it reads like liberals actually want to teach people to be promiscuous, which isn't true. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:58, 8 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :The new definition is... circular. And there's still a typo (mentioned above). [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:26, 10 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> ::Perhaps the word you're looking for is [[tautology]]? &quot;A liberal is someone who denies any harm caused by liberal ideology&quot; - this doesn't actually tell the reader anything about what a 'liberal' is, except that the author clearly doesn't like them. And I'm disappointed to see that the 'brain of a Democrat' cartoon has returned to such prominent placement too - it's unencyclopaedic, to say the least (although I did laugh at the &quot;anti-bellum&quot;). [[User:Underscoreb|Underscoreb]] 00:05, 13 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :::I hate to sound like a bother, but could anyone address these comments? (Anyone with the capability to edit the article, that is) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 22:50, 17 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :::: That better? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 04:00, 18 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :::::It's not bad, actually. I'd rather have a more textbook defintion, but I'm pretty satisfied. Thanks Philip :) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:57, 18 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Obama: Professor?==<br /> ''Calling anyone they agree with a &quot;professor&quot; regardless of whether he earned that distinction based on a real peer review of his work (see, e.g., Richard Dawkins and Barack Obama)'' <br /> <br /> *Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has suggested that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * ''&quot;I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,&quot; Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser. ... Responding to Obama's comments, Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said, &quot;Senator Obama needs to understand that at this level words matter and he will be scrutinized.&quot; Ronayne pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. The University of Chicago lists him as a senior lecturer on leave.''&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; So in this reference, an AP story in the San Francisco Chronicle, we have evidence that Obama has indeed called himself a law professor, and a quote from an RNC spokesman claiming he was not entitled to do so.<br /> <br /> * University of Chicago's ''Statement Regarding Barack Obama''&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; states: ''The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as &quot;Senior Lecturer.&quot; From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.'' It seems that he was an adjunct from '92 to '96, but after that, as a Senior Lecturer, he was considered a professor.<br /> <br /> * Next, let's look at a news article on UChicago's site from '04. It uses the title of Senior Lecturer to describe Obama, which confirms that he was indeed at that time a Senior Lecturer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/04/041103.obama.shtml]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> All of the references seem to agree that Obama was a Senior Lecturer, and that he was not full-time. The RNC spokesman said that Obama was &quot;only a Senior Lecturer and not a full professor&quot;, but this is contradicted by the university itself; UofC said &quot;Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track&quot;. I think this makes a pretty strong case for Obama having been entitled to use the title &quot;professor&quot; to describe at least the latter part of his time teaching at UofC.<br /> <br /> Therefore, I suggest that the sentence ''Calling anyone they agree with a &quot;professor&quot; regardless of whether he earned that distinction based on a real peer review of his work (see, e.g., Richard Dawkins and Barack Obama)'' be changed to remove Obama's name.<br /> <br /> == Suggestions: ==<br /> The Liberal Party of Canada should also be in the &quot;See also&quot; section of the page. Nothing more Liberal than a party that declares itself so. [[User:Conservatores|Conservatores]] 15:04, 25 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> ==Liberal Arts==<br /> I wanted to remove 'liberal arts' and 'liberal arts college' from the list, but apparently I can't. Those terms have nothing to do with liberalism. --[[User:Commodore Guff|KevinS]] 20:46, 19 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> : Good suggestion. I removed them.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:51, 19 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Absolutely correct definition...but :-)==<br /> :''A liberal is a person who's views reject traditional and biblical standards in favour of subjective or relative standards.'' <br /> This definition is absolutely correct. Not sure if it captures the possible fact that some liberal thinkers appear to hold these views based on the problems of their time instead of merely asserting their wills. Is there not a significant difference between [[Liberal Christianity#Origins of liberal Christianity|these 19th century Christian liberals]] and say 19th century atheistic liberals such as [[Karl Marx]] and [[Ludwig Feuerbach]] and their 20th century couterparts [[Mao Zedong]] and [[Joseph Stalin]]? --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 10:10, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> :I wouldn't call them Liberals. Liberals are the disguised [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]] of overt Communists. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:14, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> ::Until World War II most Christian liberals tended to be [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]], thinking it would bring the fullfilment of the [[Kingdom of God]]. [[Reinhold Niebuhr]] is a good example. He expressed pro-Marx views and didn't denounce Stalin until he signed a pact with Hitler in 1939. After that Neibuhr became radically anti-communist. Neverthless, few liberal Christians follow Niebuhr in his renunciation and instead hold on to these obviously false and desctrutive [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]] notions. So today I think most liberal Christians are like the young Niebuhr unaware of the evils lurking within communist thought. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 10:26, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> :::On the other hand, most of today's self-proclaimed political liberal Christians (if they give a hoot at all about [[God]], [[Jesus]], or Scripture is unknown) like [[Hillary Clinton]] and [[Barack Hussein Obama]] appear to more into [[Liberal Fascism]] than [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]]. Not that one of these evils is better than another. Just different. Sigh. Probably should just ignore this liberal evil stuff altogether. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 11:00, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> == The philosophy of Liberalism ==<br /> <br /> We definitely need a section on the actual meaning of a liberal viewpoint in political philosophy. The definition of 'liberal' in this article in fact broadly refers to the ideology of the Democrats, who are moderate socialists. The Republicans in fact espouse significantly liberal economic views and significantly conservative social views. Therefore, we need clarification that, outside of American politics, true liberalism is 'promoting freedom', something I believe that the conservatism you refer to advocates.--unsigned dark night<br /> <br /> :Maybe at one time liberalism meant promoting freedom, but not today's liberals. Today's liberals look to stay neutral in foreign conflicts, stay away from the promotion of freedom. In America, they are for taking away freedoms (e.g. fairness doctrine, House rules barring minority party representation, etc.) --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 18:29, 14 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::That may be so, but only by your definition of liberalism. Todays liberals are in fact socialists - , so we should probably attempt to clarify that, in real American government, liberals espouse these flawed policies, whereas in political philosophy, matters are very different.<br /> <br /> == Free Market ==<br /> <br /> I've always thought a defining quality of a Liberal was a lack of faith in a free market to solve problems. Conservatives tend to believe an economic problem is best solved in the market, whereas Liberals tend to want government intervention. [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 23:40, 31 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Suggestion==<br /> The text currently reads ''There are no coherent liberal standards, and often a liberal is merely someone who uses many words to say nothing.'' I would suggest that this might read 'There are no coherent liberal standards that are distinct from socialism or communism, and often a liberal is... ' [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 17:04, 1 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == If you want anyone to take you seriously... ==<br /> <br /> Then you should get rid of this satirical cartoon and replace it with a more appropriate picture. It is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. --[[User:Yorpa|Yorpa]] 09:40, 15 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Problems With the Article ==<br /> <br /> ''a liberal is merely someone who craves attention''<br /> &lt;br /&gt;Erm... there's just a little problem with what you're saying here. I don't think that this is factually correct, especially considering the fact that Conservatives are just as vocal about their opinions as Liberals are. Perhaps we could consider removing this phrase as it makes the entire article sound ridiculously biased. I know that it is meant to be anti-Liberal, but could we please steer away from what sounds like a petty insult? It makes it sound like vandalism.<br /> <br /> There are a few other bits throughout the article which make it sound like whoever wrote the article didn't know what they were talking about/were trying desperately to elongate or pad out the article, eg ''Some argue that liberals typically support economic policy similar to that of fascism''. Liberalism and fascism are polar opposites, one pushing for equality, freedom of choice and help for the poor, the other pushing for a superior race of people, a forced way of living and murdering the poor. I propose that this statement could be amended or removed, especially seeing as it says ''some argue'' rather than ''most'' or ''a significant number of the scientific community/economic experts''. We should not base arguments on what one or two people think - that is not reliable information. [[User:Ululator|Ululator]] 09:51, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :I also have a criticism of the article: the See also section is too long, and contains many pages that are also linked in the navigation bar immediately below it. Perhaps the page could be unlocked so that those with improvements to make can make them?<br /> :Ululator, I know this page is opposed to liberals, but I don't think anyone's accusing them of wanting to 'murder the poor'!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:54, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> : (edit conflict) Ululator, you need to open your mind more. On average, liberals are more vocal and aggressive than conservatives. There's no denying that. Just look at what happened to Harvard President Larry Summers.<br /> <br /> : As to economic policy, both liberals and fascists favor greater state control.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:56, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> You cannot try to link two groups based solely on the fact that both hold similar economic policies, otherwise you can clearly link Reaganomics with medieval policies....the solution to our problems is to concentrate the wealth of a nation in the hands of the already wealthy and powerful?<br /> <br /> Liberals and fascists do both want greater state control, but then again, so do dictatorships and many other political viewholders. However, you cannot possibly argue that they want state control in the same way. Liberals seek equality. Fascists seek superiority. I don't think there are two more different views. I also disagree that liberals are more vocal and aggressive. I have personally been attacked, both verbally and physically, on a number of occasions by conservatives, for being gay/disabled/pro choice and I know of many other people, including high profile people who have also been attacked.[[User:Ululator|Ululator]] 10:10, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> : Ululator, there's no denying that liberals are more aggressive in expressing and enforcing their views on others. You're not going to fool anyone here by claiming otherwise. Address my specific example (one of many) or move on. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:20, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> I know little about Larry Summers' situation, so I would feel unable to comment on this example, since all I know about it is hear-say that came from this website. I personally feel that conservatives and liberals are equally vocal and aggressive in their views, since on each side there are those who are loud, and those who are quiet. I am more inclined to remember loud conservatives, and no doubt you are more inclined to remember loud liberals. Therefore it is pointless us pointing the finger at each other. I know in my heart that J-sus preached acceptance and love, so I will end this debate here, before it descends into a petty argument. You may think on this though: liberalism is all about accepting others for who they are, loving them and respecting their choices. Surely this is what J-sus wanted? [[User:Ululator|Ululator]] 10:29, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Application ==<br /> <br /> The description on this page doesn't really apply to many of the Liberals I'm friends with... they're generally anti-censorship, pro-military, patriotic individuals. Some of them I know are charitable in nature. Isn't it a bit of a generalisation? -- Dollfuss<br /> <br /> *No. Only a European, or someone living outside the United States might believe that. This is an American encyclopedia, and the view of the vast majority of American liberals, is decidedly anti-military, and unpatriotic. Furthermore, liberals in the United States contribute to charity at a rate of less than half as conservatives do. We do not attempt, at Conservapedia, to be no point of view. We present facts, and if that offends certain people's political ideas, so be it. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:01, 4 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Right. We're talking about American liberals specifically in this article. [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 21:29, 4 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about the article ==<br /> <br /> In the first line &quot;A liberal is someone who rejects logical and biblical standards&quot;, how can someone who rejects the bible still not be logical? The bible is founded on faith - not logic. Please change this back to traditional instead of logical, as the article is locked. [[User:JamesY|JamesY]] 20:02, 7 April 2009 (EDT)</div>

JamesY https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Liberal&diff=650062 2009-04-08T00:00:09Z

<p>JamesY: /* Question about the article */ new section</p> <hr /> <div>&lt;br /&gt;<br /> <br /> [[Talk:Liberal/Arch1|Archive 1]]|[[Talk:Liberal/Arch2|Archive 2]]<br /> |[[Talk:Liberal/Arch3|Archive 3]]|[[Talk:Liberal/Arch4|Archive 4]]<br /> &lt;br /&gt;<br /> &lt;!-- =============DO NOT ARCHIVE ANYTHING ABOVE THIS LINE!============================== --&gt;<br /> <br /> == This Article is so flawed it makes my head spin ==<br /> Problems with this page in order and how to fix them: <br /> '''1. The article's definition of a liberal''' &quot;A liberal is a person who's views reject traditional and biblical standards in favour of subjective or relative standards.&quot; is baseless. It has no station nor can i find this definition anywhere else on the internet. I would suggest using a definition from the Stanford encyclopedia of Philosophy (online) <br /> <br /> '''2. list of so called political positions and practices'''<br /> The lists header &quot;A liberal supports many of the following political positions and practices. &quot; on itself is stylistically non-academic. It could be said that that a conservatie likewise suports many of the following political positions and practices: freedom, Christ, and killing children. Many are sported but not all. Moreover, the list contains many practices that should not necessarily be attributed to liberals. <br /> <br /> Most of the views contained in the list are validly liberal however most of them do not have citations and those that do are blatant straw men. <br /> <br /> '''3. picture'''<br /> The picture contained in the article is non-factual. its just a cartoon. I would suggest the political compass graph of the beliefs of candidates in the democratic primaries. <br /> <br /> '''4. Liberals in north america today'''<br /> Again, no facts here. <br /> the following claims are made: <br /> &lt;blockquote&gt;<br /> Democrats and many media outlets in the U.S. are often liberal.[6]<br /> <br /> * Some argue that liberals typically support economic policy similar to that of fascism. [7] <br /> <br /> * Liberals claimed a monopoly on compassion, decency, and social justice (as defined by themselves), posing as the sole defenders of civic virtue against a horde of backwoodsmen, racists, and religious fanatics. [4]<br /> &lt;/blockquote&gt; <br /> <br /> The first really doens't say anything. i could likewise say that many media outlets in the US are often conservative. The word many is the cause of the meaninless. <br /> <br /> The second is unfactual due to the word &quot;Some&quot;. I can also say that some argue that conservatives typically suport economic policies similar to that of facism. (and really come on? who's closer to Hitler Mendela or Palin? [though i supose Mendella isn't north america]) <br /> <br /> The third statment says that liberals claim something however it doesn't speek to any actual policy or official statment. <br /> <br /> to fix this i would sugest that this entire section is eather deleted or rewriten by a civics profesor if avalable. <br /> <br /> This is what i have to say on this article for now anyway. more comming perhaps. --[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 21:34, 19 November 2008 (EST)<br /> ::Please stop blaspheming. The article is correct, and since you say that it isn't, I can say with 95% success that you are a liberal, unChristian, unAmerican, and a mass murderer. I can say with 106% certainty that you are an avid practitioner of [[liberal deceit]].--[[User:JZim|JZim]] 21:42, 19 November 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> This is offencive. Your right though. i am a mass murderer, you just haven't herd of me because you don't watch the so called &quot;liberal media&quot; (it realy isn't) whcih reports on all the genocide stuff --[[User:Trekdude31|Trekdude31]] 22:03, 19 November 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::Dude, chill out. Yes, this article is very biased against the liberal ideology, but this is Conservapedia; the whole site follows the anti-liberal regimin. I agree with what you are saying, but there's no need to get overly accusational and angry; then you are doing the exact same thing that the article is doing. We must discuss these problems calmly if any ground is to be covered. For the reasons you listed, I think I'll refrain from making any major edits for now.--[[user:ForeverPeace|ForeverPeace]]<br /> <br /> :: Good, because I don't have the time to clean up the tons of misspellings by the critics above.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:21, 9 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :::Mr. Schlafly, may I ask you a question? Please don't ban me, I'm not going to make any changes here or on any highly controversial pages, I'm just wondering... Did you create Conservapedia to try to propigate a hateful opinion of Liberalism? Sometimes I get that vibe, which seems like a ridiculous position for a site advocating loving, Christian values to hold. I understand how tense a situation this can be, I just want to hear your response. Thanks! --[[user:ForeverPeace|ForeverPeace]]<br /> <br /> The problem isn't so much the flagrant bias of this article so much as the fact that Conservapedia is so damn sanctimonious about Wikipedia's alleged bias. You people have no right to complain about bias when you wear your own so proudly on your sleeve. This whole enterprise makes you look like a bunch of petty, oblivious jackasses. Consider this a public service announcement.<br /> <br /> Also, on an unrelated note, Wikipedia's article on Jesus is more comprehensive, more eloquently composed, more insightful, more educational, and more consistently cited than its counterpart here. Ironic, considering the whole point of Conservapedia was to provide a more Christian perspective on reality.<br /> <br /> == Picture ==<br /> <br /> Shouldn't the picture be something representative of liberals rather than a satirical cartoon?[[User:JPohl|JPohl]] 08:53, 2 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Yes, yes it should. I understand that this is supposed to be &quot;an encyclopedia with articles written from a conservative viewpoint&quot;, but doesn't that make it especially necessary that we don't make ourselves look like clowns? If anything, that was probably drawn up by a self-aware liberal with a sense of humor. [[User:Harbinger|Harbinger]] 11:22, 27 September 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Additional Liberal Organizations ==<br /> Center for Democracy &amp; Technology, a civil liberties group that filed briefs against the law Child Online Protection Act and is working in coordination with the ACLU. {{unsigned|Jpatt}}<br /> <br /> :Two more--Brookings Institute and Fairness In Accuracy &amp; Media --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:25, 23 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::Also Research for Change, Emily's List, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, Human Rights Campaign, People For The Ethical Treatment of Animals, Planned Parenthood, Creative Commons, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Democracy For America, and ActBlue! --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:31, 23 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Be aware that some liberal organizations, in an attempt to hide their agenda, will tout themselves as &quot;Progressive&quot; organizations instead. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 08:35, 23 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> Another: Center For American Progress --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 11:21, 24 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> The more I think about it, probably need a whole page dedicated to Liberal Organizations. They can be sorted and divided by Soros funded / abortion sponsors / environmental / innocuous named (e.g. Democracy For America) / gay support / union backed / progressive advocates / Conservative watchdogs. Your thoughts?--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:29, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> : Hmmmm, the more you think about it you've come to that conclusion? Well, it's such a good conclusion, I came up with it yesterday and asked Mr. Schlafly about it [http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:Aschlafly#Liberal_Organizations here]! Although I believe a different organizational system is worthwhile. Hey, if you keep checking my contributions, you may find some other ideas that you can &quot;think about&quot; and claim as your own. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 14:57, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :: Darn, if I only stalked jareds posts I would have realized that I was beaten by liberal intelligence. Let me guess your suggestion 'different organizational system' - hmmm, watered down to alphabetical and by state. If there becomes a Liberal Organizational page, it will need to be a tool for people to know what organizations to stay away from and why they are for boycott.--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 19:45, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ::: Hmmm, I was actually thinking about organizing it by media, topic type, purported purpose. But take my idea and let's collaborate. That was the point of my post the other day, which you buried when you were insulting me. Let's collaborate and put something together. Obviously I had a good idea that you also like, so instead of continuing to insult me, let's make something out of it. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 21:01, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :::: I'll just do my own work, you edit, like always. I have no desire to collaborate with you. Sorry. The most you 'll get from me is a prayer that your heart changes--[[User:Jpatt|jp]] 22:07, 25 July 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> <br /> ==Founding Fathers were liberal==<br /> For their time at least. And you can't deny this. All of their rallying cries were liberal for their day. &quot;No taxation without representation.&quot; Liberal. No authoritarian autocrats, wow that's very liberal considering the day. Freedom of religion, and religion seperated fom state? Why, those are some of the very things some of you hate &quot;liberals&quot; for to begin with.<br /> <br /> Point is, &quot;liberal&quot; is just a word. But some of the less sociable and not so well adjusted conservatives *gasp, they exist* have used the same silly word games with &quot;liberal&quot; as they did when they coined that lovely little phrase &quot;pro-life.&quot; Actually it's quite clever. Now liberal is, supposedly, perjorative along he same lines that anyone not &quot;pro-life&quot; must be &quot;pro-death.&quot; And how horrible is that, pro-death? Exactly...<br /> <br /> What ever happened to moderation =( Middle of the road is not so bad, folks. There's something to be had from either end of the spectrum. Extremism is never the best choice. Self profesed &quot;conservatives&quot; are as guilty of it as self profesed &quot;liberals.&quot; The problem, unfortunately, is relly with all of us in general. It's just in our nature to prefer the radicals over the moderates. It's more exciting to us, and none of us are above it. However, we can actively be aware of that and make a point not to fall in lock step with the radicals on either end. And in truth, many do. They are just quiet, it's always th fringes that are the loudest... [[User:Jros83|Jros83]] 13:55, 24 August 2008 (EDT) (I'm goig to be blasted as one of those &quot;liberals&quot; lol...)<br /> <br /> ==List at top==<br /> <br /> The list at the top makes it clear that it's supposed to be strictly a list of things liberals support, almost a &quot;liberal platform&quot;, if you will. Why are there &quot;studies&quot; like this: &quot;In 2005, it was reported by CBS News that liberals were the most likely supporters of the theory of evolution. Support for the theory of evolution which is a key component of atheistic ideologies in the Western World.&quot; Why can't we just say &quot;secularism and atheism&quot;? <br /> <br /> Or this: &quot;Calling anyone they agree with a &quot;professor&quot; regardless of whether he earned that distinction based on a real peer review of his work (see, e.g., Richard Dawkins and Barack Obama).&quot; Just seems gossipy, and not really representative of a whole, but rather some particular instances with which someone has taken issue. I'm all for being honest about what they're trying to do, and I'm just saying this information should be placed where it deserves to go. Does this merit a new section to place this info in, or does anyone think there's a better place on the article to put this? [[User:PCarson|PCarson]] 13:49, 1 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==See Also==<br /> Would like to add Liberal education. --[[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 21:10, 2 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Clean up article==<br /> Can someone tell me how to edit the main page? The list of liberals in the see also section is a bit long so I created another page to place them located [[List of liberalism in America|here]]. Thank you.--[[User:JasonM|JasonM]] 21:39, 5 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :The page is locked so nobody can edit except for sysops. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:58, 6 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Recent changes ==<br /> <br /> In the list of ideologies there is a missing line break in the line &quot;A &quot;living Constitution&quot; that is reinterpreted as liberals prefer, rather than how it was intended* Government programs to rehabilitate criminals&quot;. This should be two lines.<br /> <br /> Also, the wording on the sex ed line needs to be tweaked. As it is, it reads like liberals actually want to teach people to be promiscuous, which isn't true. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 21:58, 8 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :The new definition is... circular. And there's still a typo (mentioned above). [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 20:26, 10 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> ::Perhaps the word you're looking for is [[tautology]]? &quot;A liberal is someone who denies any harm caused by liberal ideology&quot; - this doesn't actually tell the reader anything about what a 'liberal' is, except that the author clearly doesn't like them. And I'm disappointed to see that the 'brain of a Democrat' cartoon has returned to such prominent placement too - it's unencyclopaedic, to say the least (although I did laugh at the &quot;anti-bellum&quot;). [[User:Underscoreb|Underscoreb]] 00:05, 13 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :::I hate to sound like a bother, but could anyone address these comments? (Anyone with the capability to edit the article, that is) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 22:50, 17 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :::: That better? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 04:00, 18 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> :::::It's not bad, actually. I'd rather have a more textbook defintion, but I'm pretty satisfied. Thanks Philip :) [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 11:57, 18 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> ==Obama: Professor?==<br /> ''Calling anyone they agree with a &quot;professor&quot; regardless of whether he earned that distinction based on a real peer review of his work (see, e.g., Richard Dawkins and Barack Obama)'' <br /> <br /> *Obama has described himself as a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Lecturer, an adjunct position, from 1992 to 1996.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; He held the position of Senior Lecturer from 1996 until his election to the senate in 2004.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, has suggested that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; The University states that Senior Lecturers are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure track.&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> * ''&quot;I was a constitutional law professor, which means unlike the current president I actually respect the Constitution,&quot; Obama told an audience at a campaign fundraiser. ... Responding to Obama's comments, Dan Ronayne, a spokesman for the Republican National Committee, said, &quot;Senator Obama needs to understand that at this level words matter and he will be scrutinized.&quot; Ronayne pointed that Obama was only a senior lecturer and not a full professor. The University of Chicago lists him as a senior lecturer on leave.''&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/03/30/politics/p132303D74.DTL&amp;type=politics]&lt;/ref&gt; So in this reference, an AP story in the San Francisco Chronicle, we have evidence that Obama has indeed called himself a law professor, and a quote from an RNC spokesman claiming he was not entitled to do so.<br /> <br /> * University of Chicago's ''Statement Regarding Barack Obama''&lt;ref&gt;[http://www.law.uchicago.edu/media/index.html]&lt;/ref&gt; states: ''The Law School has received many media requests about Barack Obama, especially about his status as &quot;Senior Lecturer.&quot; From 1992 until his election to the U.S. Senate in 2004, Barack Obama served as a professor in the Law School. He was a Lecturer from 1992 to 1996. He was a Senior Lecturer from 1996 to 2004, during which time he taught three courses per year. Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track. The title of Senior Lecturer is distinct from the title of Lecturer, which signifies adjunct status. Like Obama, each of the Law School's Senior Lecturers has high-demand careers in politics or public service, which prevent full-time teaching. Several times during his 12 years as a professor in the Law School, Obama was invited to join the faculty in a full-time tenure-track position, but he declined.'' It seems that he was an adjunct from '92 to '96, but after that, as a Senior Lecturer, he was considered a professor.<br /> <br /> * Next, let's look at a news article on UChicago's site from '04. It uses the title of Senior Lecturer to describe Obama, which confirms that he was indeed at that time a Senior Lecturer. &lt;ref&gt;[http://www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/04/041103.obama.shtml]&lt;/ref&gt;<br /> <br /> All of the references seem to agree that Obama was a Senior Lecturer, and that he was not full-time. The RNC spokesman said that Obama was &quot;only a Senior Lecturer and not a full professor&quot;, but this is contradicted by the university itself; UofC said &quot;Senior Lecturers are considered to be members of the Law School faculty and are regarded as professors, although not full-time or tenure-track&quot;. I think this makes a pretty strong case for Obama having been entitled to use the title &quot;professor&quot; to describe at least the latter part of his time teaching at UofC.<br /> <br /> Therefore, I suggest that the sentence ''Calling anyone they agree with a &quot;professor&quot; regardless of whether he earned that distinction based on a real peer review of his work (see, e.g., Richard Dawkins and Barack Obama)'' be changed to remove Obama's name.<br /> <br /> == Suggestions: ==<br /> The Liberal Party of Canada should also be in the &quot;See also&quot; section of the page. Nothing more Liberal than a party that declares itself so. [[User:Conservatores|Conservatores]] 15:04, 25 October 2008 (EDT)<br /> <br /> &lt;references/&gt;<br /> ==Liberal Arts==<br /> I wanted to remove 'liberal arts' and 'liberal arts college' from the list, but apparently I can't. Those terms have nothing to do with liberalism. --[[User:Commodore Guff|KevinS]] 20:46, 19 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> : Good suggestion. I removed them.--[[User:Aschlafly|aschlafly]] 20:51, 19 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Absolutely correct definition...but :-)==<br /> :''A liberal is a person who's views reject traditional and biblical standards in favour of subjective or relative standards.'' <br /> This definition is absolutely correct. Not sure if it captures the possible fact that some liberal thinkers appear to hold these views based on the problems of their time instead of merely asserting their wills. Is there not a significant difference between [[Liberal Christianity#Origins of liberal Christianity|these 19th century Christian liberals]] and say 19th century atheistic liberals such as [[Karl Marx]] and [[Ludwig Feuerbach]] and their 20th century couterparts [[Mao Zedong]] and [[Joseph Stalin]]? --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 10:10, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> :I wouldn't call them Liberals. Liberals are the disguised [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]] of overt Communists. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:14, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> ::Until World War II most Christian liberals tended to be [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]], thinking it would bring the fullfilment of the [[Kingdom of God]]. [[Reinhold Niebuhr]] is a good example. He expressed pro-Marx views and didn't denounce Stalin until he signed a pact with Hitler in 1939. After that Neibuhr became radically anti-communist. Neverthless, few liberal Christians follow Niebuhr in his renunciation and instead hold on to these obviously false and desctrutive [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]] notions. So today I think most liberal Christians are like the young Niebuhr unaware of the evils lurking within communist thought. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 10:26, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> :::On the other hand, most of today's self-proclaimed political liberal Christians (if they give a hoot at all about [[God]], [[Jesus]], or Scripture is unknown) like [[Hillary Clinton]] and [[Barack Hussein Obama]] appear to more into [[Liberal Fascism]] than [[Fellow traveller|fellow-travellers]]. Not that one of these evils is better than another. Just different. Sigh. Probably should just ignore this liberal evil stuff altogether. --[[User:RickD|RickD]] 11:00, 27 December 2008 (EST)<br /> <br /> == The philosophy of Liberalism ==<br /> <br /> We definitely need a section on the actual meaning of a liberal viewpoint in political philosophy. The definition of 'liberal' in this article in fact broadly refers to the ideology of the Democrats, who are moderate socialists. The Republicans in fact espouse significantly liberal economic views and significantly conservative social views. Therefore, we need clarification that, outside of American politics, true liberalism is 'promoting freedom', something I believe that the conservatism you refer to advocates.--unsigned dark night<br /> <br /> :Maybe at one time liberalism meant promoting freedom, but not today's liberals. Today's liberals look to stay neutral in foreign conflicts, stay away from the promotion of freedom. In America, they are for taking away freedoms (e.g. fairness doctrine, House rules barring minority party representation, etc.) --[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 18:29, 14 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> ::That may be so, but only by your definition of liberalism. Todays liberals are in fact socialists - , so we should probably attempt to clarify that, in real American government, liberals espouse these flawed policies, whereas in political philosophy, matters are very different.<br /> <br /> == Free Market ==<br /> <br /> I've always thought a defining quality of a Liberal was a lack of faith in a free market to solve problems. Conservatives tend to believe an economic problem is best solved in the market, whereas Liberals tend to want government intervention. [[User:NotALiberal|NotALiberal]] 23:40, 31 January 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> ==Suggestion==<br /> The text currently reads ''There are no coherent liberal standards, and often a liberal is merely someone who uses many words to say nothing.'' I would suggest that this might read 'There are no coherent liberal standards that are distinct from socialism or communism, and often a liberal is... ' [[User:MauriceB|MauriceB]] 17:04, 1 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == If you want anyone to take you seriously... ==<br /> <br /> Then you should get rid of this satirical cartoon and replace it with a more appropriate picture. It is not appropriate for an encyclopedia. --[[User:Yorpa|Yorpa]] 09:40, 15 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Problems With the Article ==<br /> <br /> ''a liberal is merely someone who craves attention''<br /> &lt;br /&gt;Erm... there's just a little problem with what you're saying here. I don't think that this is factually correct, especially considering the fact that Conservatives are just as vocal about their opinions as Liberals are. Perhaps we could consider removing this phrase as it makes the entire article sound ridiculously biased. I know that it is meant to be anti-Liberal, but could we please steer away from what sounds like a petty insult? It makes it sound like vandalism.<br /> <br /> There are a few other bits throughout the article which make it sound like whoever wrote the article didn't know what they were talking about/were trying desperately to elongate or pad out the article, eg ''Some argue that liberals typically support economic policy similar to that of fascism''. Liberalism and fascism are polar opposites, one pushing for equality, freedom of choice and help for the poor, the other pushing for a superior race of people, a forced way of living and murdering the poor. I propose that this statement could be amended or removed, especially seeing as it says ''some argue'' rather than ''most'' or ''a significant number of the scientific community/economic experts''. We should not base arguments on what one or two people think - that is not reliable information. [[User:Ululator|Ululator]] 09:51, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> :I also have a criticism of the article: the See also section is too long, and contains many pages that are also linked in the navigation bar immediately below it. Perhaps the page could be unlocked so that those with improvements to make can make them?<br /> :Ululator, I know this page is opposed to liberals, but I don't think anyone's accusing them of wanting to 'murder the poor'!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 09:54, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> : (edit conflict) Ululator, you need to open your mind more. On average, liberals are more vocal and aggressive than conservatives. There's no denying that. Just look at what happened to Harvard President Larry Summers.<br /> <br /> : As to economic policy, both liberals and fascists favor greater state control.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 09:56, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> You cannot try to link two groups based solely on the fact that both hold similar economic policies, otherwise you can clearly link Reaganomics with medieval policies....the solution to our problems is to concentrate the wealth of a nation in the hands of the already wealthy and powerful?<br /> <br /> Liberals and fascists do both want greater state control, but then again, so do dictatorships and many other political viewholders. However, you cannot possibly argue that they want state control in the same way. Liberals seek equality. Fascists seek superiority. I don't think there are two more different views. I also disagree that liberals are more vocal and aggressive. I have personally been attacked, both verbally and physically, on a number of occasions by conservatives, for being gay/disabled/pro choice and I know of many other people, including high profile people who have also been attacked.[[User:Ululator|Ululator]] 10:10, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> : Ululator, there's no denying that liberals are more aggressive in expressing and enforcing their views on others. You're not going to fool anyone here by claiming otherwise. Address my specific example (one of many) or move on. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:20, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> I know little about Larry Summers' situation, so I would feel unable to comment on this example, since all I know about it is hear-say that came from this website. I personally feel that conservatives and liberals are equally vocal and aggressive in their views, since on each side there are those who are loud, and those who are quiet. I am more inclined to remember loud conservatives, and no doubt you are more inclined to remember loud liberals. Therefore it is pointless us pointing the finger at each other. I know in my heart that J-sus preached acceptance and love, so I will end this debate here, before it descends into a petty argument. You may think on this though: liberalism is all about accepting others for who they are, loving them and respecting their choices. Surely this is what J-sus wanted? [[User:Ululator|Ululator]] 10:29, 16 February 2009 (EST)<br /> <br /> == Application ==<br /> <br /> The description on this page doesn't really apply to many of the Liberals I'm friends with... they're generally anti-censorship, pro-military, patriotic individuals. Some of them I know are charitable in nature. Isn't it a bit of a generalisation? -- Dollfuss<br /> <br /> *No. Only a European, or someone living outside the United States might believe that. This is an American encyclopedia, and the view of the vast majority of American liberals, is decidedly anti-military, and unpatriotic. Furthermore, liberals in the United States contribute to charity at a rate of less than half as conservatives do. We do not attempt, at Conservapedia, to be no point of view. We present facts, and if that offends certain people's political ideas, so be it. --[[User:TK|'''₮K''']]&lt;sub&gt;&lt;small&gt;&lt;small&gt;/Admin&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/sub&gt;&lt;sup&gt;[[User_Talk:TK|/Talk]]&lt;/sup&gt; 21:01, 4 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> :Right. We're talking about American liberals specifically in this article. [[User:AddisonDM|AddisonDM]] 21:29, 4 April 2009 (EDT)<br /> <br /> == Question about the article ==<br /> <br /> In the first line &quot;A liberal is someone who rejects logical and biblical standards&quot;, how can someone who rejects the bible still not be logical? The bible is founded on faith - not logic. Please change this, as the article is locked.</div>

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<p>JamesY: </p> <hr /> <div>'''Pain''' is the subjective interpretation of sensory input from the [[nervous system]], primarily from nociceptors (injury-specific receptors). It is your body's way of letting you know that you are injured or in danger of being injured, and has been shown to evoke a powerful [[Pavlov]]ian reaction, preventing the person from further exposing themselves to similar situations.<br /> <br /> As pain is a subjective sensation, causes of pain can range from true injury, to imagined or [[neuropathic pain]].<br /> <br /> People who enjoy feeling pain are called [[masochism|masochist]]s. People who enjoy or derive pleasure from inflicting pain are called [[sadists]].<br /> <br /> [[Category:Dictionary]]<br /> {{stub}}</div>

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<p>JamesY: Redirecting to Miley Cyrus</p> <hr /> <div>#Redirect[[Miley Cyrus]]</div>

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