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User talk:Order

2007-05-29T09:13:13Z

Goldenratio: /* somewhere you might be welcome */

Just a note on your recent revert at [[Christianity]]; the vandal was [[User:Shortdog57]], not [[User:Hojimachong|Hojimachong]]. [[User:Tsumetai|Tsumetai]] 07:56, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

: I know. My edit message 'reverted vandalism by shortdog; reverted to version by Hojimachong' was mangeled. If you click on Hojimachong in the history of [[Christianity|Christianity]] you will get to shortdog. Not sure why this happend.

Point taken on European liberal parties. Have contributed minor point to discussion on liberal and applied a minor edit to the article.--[[User:AustinM|AustinM]] 08:56, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for reverting the Christianity page. --[[User:TimSvendsen|TimSvendsen]] 20:49, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

: Warning: you posted a derogatory comment to my talk page ''after'' I warned someone else not to post further discussion about on that topic (Wikipedia's bias) there. Each content page has a talk page for postings comments. Another example of an inappropriate posting will result in the blocking of your account.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:30, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

<s>You must be a communist.</s> I PROVED to you that global warming is a myth by giving you a link! Why are you questioning it?! - [[User:Sauli|Sauli]] 10:12, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

: This comment just shows that you have no clue what communism means. You proved that you were able to google. --[[User:Order|Order]]

::<nowiki>*</nowiki>sniggers* --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 08:09, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

:Without the communist remark, my answer is: iirc, all you did is quote an article about a danish scientist, saying that global warming is overhyped, and that the way its there exist no reasonable definition of average global temperature. I actually think similar about it. Now your 'argument': First, he doesn't say that its not true, just that it is bad science (I wouldn't actually go that far). But the actual problem with your argument is, that a single researcher opposing it doesn't make it a myth. Just as little as a single researcher makes it a fact. [[User:Order]] 7 april, 00:50 (AEST)
Just so you know: I believe that your sig is broken. [[User:Linus M.|Geekman314]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 21:54, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

== Hitler ==

To avoid even more discussion, could you add the citations to your excellent additions to the Putsch? --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 05:01, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the attributions, good sir. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 07:29, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

== Liberal ==

I didn't put anything back, in that thread. Look closely. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 19:25, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

No, you didn't, Rob did. Sorry, if I did attribute it to the wrong person. [[User:Order]] 26 March.

== German Homeschooling ==

I'll score that little debate as a big win to the Germans - well done! Makes up for the World Cup ;-) [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 07:50, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

*Well, we will see. ;-) --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 08:01, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

**Well, we already have. [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 17:06, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for your support with very well put arguments. --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 07:24, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

== Censoring Talk pages? ==

TK, why did you revert the last comment by ResistanceFighter on the talk pages. I thought the Talk pages were for discussion, and I didn't expect that someone would revert comments. I'd expect you to reply to his comments, not remove them. User:Order May 21 11:40 (AEST)

Order, I have an old saying: "Caution! Be sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in operation!" The last comment there, FYI, on Fighter's talk page was from the user BrianCo, who was blocked for being a vandal, and ResistanceFighter was his sock. Now, instead of posting there, just to gain exposure for your sly little ad hominem attack on me, you could have sent an email or gotten me on IM, or even posted on my talk page. Now, I expect an apology. This bit of foolery is certainly not adult or professional. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 08:30, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

: : What is sly and ad hominen about my question? It was a fairly neutral question about why a comment was removed. I saw that a comment got removed without comment. And I asked you why? You could have added the explanation that you gave now already when you removed the comment. It appeared, and not just to my brain, as if a comment was removed without giving a reason. And that was exactly what you did. And even if it was a sock puppet, I still can't see why you did remove the comment without giving a reason. Wouldn't the normal procedure be to block the sock puppet, and revert vandalism if it happend. [[User:Order]] May 25 [[User:Order]] May 25

*Normal on RW or WP, as you might have noticed by now, is not "normal" here, right? Sorry for the too hostile tone above, man, but doesn't change the answer. ;-) --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 00:49, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

That's cool. You explained it well. [[User:Order]] May 27.

:Hi [[User:Order|Order]], thanks for commenting the spin put on the paper about the higher minimum wage teenagers dropping out of school. You saved me the bother. The last time I commented on dubious interpretations of news articles or suchlike on the [[Main Page]] I was blocked for a month. Proceed with care;-). You might like pop round to my [[User:WhatIsG0ing0n|user page]]. [[User:TK|TK]] requested I [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatIsG0ing0n&diff=180453&oldid=180350 improve it]. I hope you like it better than my [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:WhatIsG0ing0n&oldid=179908 old version]. [[User:WhatIsG0ing0n|WhatIsG0ing0n]] 11:28, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

== somewhere you might be welcome ==

[http://www.rationalwiki.com rationalwiki.com], somewhere to dispel pseudoscience and fundamentalist dogma. it ''is'' full of liberal deceit though (things like facts, open discussion, acceptance). [[User:Goldenratio|Goldenratio]] 05:10, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Schifra

2007-05-29T09:12:36Z

Goldenratio: /* somewhere you might be welcome */

{{welcome|--[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 07:54, 24 May 2007 (EDT)}}

Wir versuchen eine alternativen Realität aufzubauen. Ihrer Bezug zur der bereits existierende Realität könnte dieses Projekt stören. Bitte merken Sie folgende 'Regel'([[Conservapedia:Locks and Blocks]]):
:''Sysop's and Bureaucrats are the Administrators of Conservapedia. Their instructions, as to Conservapedia policy and/or the appropriateness or inappropriateness of user actions, are to be followed. Failure to do so will result in the user being blocked.''
Merke: ''Their <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:Listusers%26group%3Dsysop|sysops]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> instructions, as to Conservapedia policy [...] are to be followed'', d.h. wenn einen sysop sich für seiner Version der Realität entschienden hat dann ist es auch so. Das Bestreiten dieser Realität könnte in der Verbannung enden. [[User:Auld Nick|Auld Nick]] 05:21, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Das schreckt nicht wirklich ab, es zu versuchen. Sollte es sich tatsächlich so herausstellen, erspart es mir viel Zeit :-) --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 05:36, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

== Hallöchen ==

Grüße von Deutschland nach Deutschland ;-) --[[User:Deutscher|Deutscher]] 17:21, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Ditto --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 17:26, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

== Hallo an Alle ==

Ich habe neulich diese Unterhaltung gefunden [[Talk:Main_Page#Those_Nazi_Germans_have_the_constitutional_right_to_teach_religion_in_public_schools|Home schooling]]. Ich fand die Mentalität der Amis sehr Merkwürdig. Ich bin der Ansicht daß die Amis keine Ahnung haben, was Freiheit bedeutet. Immer diese blöde Nazi Kommentar. [[User:Hannibal ad portas|Hannibal ad portas]] 23:06, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Vielen Dank. Glücklicherweise kenne ich auch viele Amerikaner, die sich ohne Vorurteil für Deutschland interessieren. Ich denke, dass er einfach nicht zugeben kann, dass er sich in einer Sackgasse verrannt hatte. So etwas kommt vor. --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 02:22, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
:Darf ich dir fragen, wo du her kommst? [[User:Hannibal ad portas|Hannibal ad portas]] 07:10, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

==Iraq==

Good catch. I meant US but typed UN by mistake. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Iraq&curid=6667&diff=175615&oldid=175607&rcid=184178] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:48, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

You're welcome. --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 13:51, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

== Versailles ==

I think it definitely is a given; anybody with sense realizes that genocide can ''never'' be justified. If someone did argue that, then stating it as "this doesn't excuse Hitler or the holocaust", without some citations or explanation, would weaken your position even further. Perhaps you can make a [[Rationale for World War II]], with sections like "USA", "Britain", and "Germany", and explain why each country wanted to go to war. From there, you can discredit whichever views you like. And if you insist on putting it back in, ''please'' word it better. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 18:34, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
:Ah, a non-native English speaker. Would I be correct in assuming your first language is German? I'm taking that in school, 1st year. If you like, you could write at [[Treaty of Versailles]], and I could go edit what you wrote to make it nicer-looking. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 18:42, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

== somewhere you might be welcome ==

[http://www.rationalwiki.com rationalwiki.com], a place to discuss things. [[User:Goldenratio|Goldenratio]] 05:11, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Schifra

2007-05-29T09:11:38Z

Goldenratio: somewhere you might be welcome

{{welcome|--[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 07:54, 24 May 2007 (EDT)}}

Wir versuchen eine alternativen Realität aufzubauen. Ihrer Bezug zur der bereits existierende Realität könnte dieses Projekt stören. Bitte merken Sie folgende 'Regel'([[Conservapedia:Locks and Blocks]]):
:''Sysop's and Bureaucrats are the Administrators of Conservapedia. Their instructions, as to Conservapedia policy and/or the appropriateness or inappropriateness of user actions, are to be followed. Failure to do so will result in the user being blocked.''
Merke: ''Their <nowiki>[</nowiki>[[Special:Listusers%26group%3Dsysop|sysops]]<nowiki>]</nowiki> instructions, as to Conservapedia policy [...] are to be followed'', d.h. wenn einen sysop sich für seiner Version der Realität entschienden hat dann ist es auch so. Das Bestreiten dieser Realität könnte in der Verbannung enden. [[User:Auld Nick|Auld Nick]] 05:21, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Das schreckt nicht wirklich ab, es zu versuchen. Sollte es sich tatsächlich so herausstellen, erspart es mir viel Zeit :-) --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 05:36, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

== Hallöchen ==

Grüße von Deutschland nach Deutschland ;-) --[[User:Deutscher|Deutscher]] 17:21, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Ditto --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 17:26, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

== Hallo an Alle ==

Ich habe neulich diese Unterhaltung gefunden [[Talk:Main_Page#Those_Nazi_Germans_have_the_constitutional_right_to_teach_religion_in_public_schools|Home schooling]]. Ich fand die Mentalität der Amis sehr Merkwürdig. Ich bin der Ansicht daß die Amis keine Ahnung haben, was Freiheit bedeutet. Immer diese blöde Nazi Kommentar. [[User:Hannibal ad portas|Hannibal ad portas]] 23:06, 23 May 2007 (EDT)

Vielen Dank. Glücklicherweise kenne ich auch viele Amerikaner, die sich ohne Vorurteil für Deutschland interessieren. Ich denke, dass er einfach nicht zugeben kann, dass er sich in einer Sackgasse verrannt hatte. So etwas kommt vor. --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 02:22, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
:Darf ich dir fragen, wo du her kommst? [[User:Hannibal ad portas|Hannibal ad portas]] 07:10, 25 May 2007 (EDT)

==Iraq==

Good catch. I meant US but typed UN by mistake. [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Iraq&curid=6667&diff=175615&oldid=175607&rcid=184178] --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:48, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

You're welcome. --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 13:51, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

== Versailles ==

I think it definitely is a given; anybody with sense realizes that genocide can ''never'' be justified. If someone did argue that, then stating it as "this doesn't excuse Hitler or the holocaust", without some citations or explanation, would weaken your position even further. Perhaps you can make a [[Rationale for World War II]], with sections like "USA", "Britain", and "Germany", and explain why each country wanted to go to war. From there, you can discredit whichever views you like. And if you insist on putting it back in, ''please'' word it better. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 18:34, 24 May 2007 (EDT)
:Ah, a non-native English speaker. Would I be correct in assuming your first language is German? I'm taking that in school, 1st year. If you like, you could write at [[Treaty of Versailles]], and I could go edit what you wrote to make it nicer-looking. --[[User:Hojimachong|'''Hojimachong''']][[User_Talk:Hojimachong|talk]] 18:42, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

== somewhere you might be welcome ==

www.rationalwiki.com, a place to discuss things. [[User:Goldenratio|Goldenratio]] 05:11, 29 May 2007 (EDT)

User talk:Order

2007-05-29T09:10:08Z

Goldenratio: somewhere you might be welcome

Just a note on your recent revert at [[Christianity]]; the vandal was [[User:Shortdog57]], not [[User:Hojimachong|Hojimachong]]. [[User:Tsumetai|Tsumetai]] 07:56, 12 March 2007 (EDT)

: I know. My edit message 'reverted vandalism by shortdog; reverted to version by Hojimachong' was mangeled. If you click on Hojimachong in the history of [[Christianity|Christianity]] you will get to shortdog. Not sure why this happend.

Point taken on European liberal parties. Have contributed minor point to discussion on liberal and applied a minor edit to the article.--[[User:AustinM|AustinM]] 08:56, 12 March 2007 (EDT)
Thanks for reverting the Christianity page. --[[User:TimSvendsen|TimSvendsen]] 20:49, 15 March 2007 (EDT)

: Warning: you posted a derogatory comment to my talk page ''after'' I warned someone else not to post further discussion about on that topic (Wikipedia's bias) there. Each content page has a talk page for postings comments. Another example of an inappropriate posting will result in the blocking of your account.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:30, 16 March 2007 (EDT)

<s>You must be a communist.</s> I PROVED to you that global warming is a myth by giving you a link! Why are you questioning it?! - [[User:Sauli|Sauli]] 10:12, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

: This comment just shows that you have no clue what communism means. You proved that you were able to google. --[[User:Order|Order]]

::<nowiki>*</nowiki>sniggers* --[[User:Linus M.|Liπus the Turbogeek]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 08:09, 5 April 2007 (EDT)

:Without the communist remark, my answer is: iirc, all you did is quote an article about a danish scientist, saying that global warming is overhyped, and that the way its there exist no reasonable definition of average global temperature. I actually think similar about it. Now your 'argument': First, he doesn't say that its not true, just that it is bad science (I wouldn't actually go that far). But the actual problem with your argument is, that a single researcher opposing it doesn't make it a myth. Just as little as a single researcher makes it a fact. [[User:Order]] 7 april, 00:50 (AEST)
Just so you know: I believe that your sig is broken. [[User:Linus M.|Geekman314]]([[User talk:Linus M.|contact me]]) 21:54, 17 March 2007 (EDT)

== Hitler ==

To avoid even more discussion, could you add the citations to your excellent additions to the Putsch? --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 05:01, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for the attributions, good sir. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|Talk2Me!]] 07:29, 23 March 2007 (EDT)

== Liberal ==

I didn't put anything back, in that thread. Look closely. --~ [[User:TK|TerryK]] [[User_talk:TK|MyTalk]] 19:25, 25 March 2007 (EDT)

No, you didn't, Rob did. Sorry, if I did attribute it to the wrong person. [[User:Order]] 26 March.

== German Homeschooling ==

I'll score that little debate as a big win to the Germans - well done! Makes up for the World Cup ;-) [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 07:50, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

*Well, we will see. ;-) --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 08:01, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

**Well, we already have. [[User:Ferret|Ferret]] 17:06, 22 May 2007 (EDT)

Thanks for your support with very well put arguments. --[[User:Schifra|schifra]] 07:24, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

== Censoring Talk pages? ==

TK, why did you revert the last comment by ResistanceFighter on the talk pages. I thought the Talk pages were for discussion, and I didn't expect that someone would revert comments. I'd expect you to reply to his comments, not remove them. User:Order May 21 11:40 (AEST)

Order, I have an old saying: "Caution! Be sure brain is engaged before putting mouth in operation!" The last comment there, FYI, on Fighter's talk page was from the user BrianCo, who was blocked for being a vandal, and ResistanceFighter was his sock. Now, instead of posting there, just to gain exposure for your sly little ad hominem attack on me, you could have sent an email or gotten me on IM, or even posted on my talk page. Now, I expect an apology. This bit of foolery is certainly not adult or professional. --Sysop-TK /MyTalk 08:30, 24 May 2007 (EDT)

: : What is sly and ad hominen about my question? It was a fairly neutral question about why a comment was removed. I saw that a comment got removed without comment. And I asked you why? You could have added the explanation that you gave now already when you removed the comment. It appeared, and not just to my brain, as if a comment was removed without giving a reason. And that was exactly what you did. And even if it was a sock puppet, I still can't see why you did remove the comment without giving a reason. Wouldn't the normal procedure be to block the sock puppet, and revert vandalism if it happend. [[User:Order]] May 25 [[User:Order]] May 25

*Normal on RW or WP, as you might have noticed by now, is not "normal" here, right? Sorry for the too hostile tone above, man, but doesn't change the answer. ;-) --[[User:TK|Sysop-TK]] [[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]] 00:49, 27 May 2007 (EDT)

That's cool. You explained it well. [[User:Order]] May 27.

:Hi [[User:Order|Order]], thanks for commenting the spin put on the paper about the higher minimum wage teenagers dropping out of school. You saved me the bother. The last time I commented on dubious interpretations of news articles or suchlike on the [[Main Page]] I was blocked for a month. Proceed with care;-). You might like pop round to my [[User:WhatIsG0ing0n|user page]]. [[User:TK|TK]] requested I [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:WhatIsG0ing0n&diff=180453&oldid=180350 improve it]. I hope you like it better than my [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:WhatIsG0ing0n&oldid=179908 old version]. [[User:WhatIsG0ing0n|WhatIsG0ing0n]] 11:28, 28 May 2007 (EDT)

== somewhere you might be welcome ==

www.rationalwiki.com, somewhere to dispel pseudoscience and fundamentalist dogma. it ''is'' full of liberal deceit though (things like facts, open discussion, acceptance). [[User:Goldenratio|Goldenratio]] 05:10, 29 May 2007 (EDT)