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User talk:JoshuaZ

2007-03-06T02:28:31Z

EarlQ:

I find that it's fun working on a Wiki-based encyclopedia that's at such an early stage that it's still easy to make changes and additions, confident that they are actually improvements. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:38, 4 February 2007 (EST)

Any Idea why you can't see the references at the bottom of the examples of bias page? --[[User:TimSvendsen|TimSvendsen]] 00:20, 12 February 2007 (EST)

Good job on the [[Creationism]] page. [[User:PhilipB|PhilipB]] 11:06, 14 February 2007 (EST)

Why do you and Dpbsmith keep refering to "Middle Schoolers"? and what does that have to do with any debate? --[[User:TimSvendsen|TimSvendsen]] 11:22, 14 February 2007 (EST)

A: Actually conservapedia was not started to "have a wiki that Christian homeschooled students could edit without them being exposed to anything their parents didn't want them exposed to." It was started to have an encyclopedic website (it actually didn't start as a wiki) that did not have the liberal bias of wikipedia. B: The Users of Conservapedia are not limited to the students of A Schlafly, and most of the students are highschoolers. --[[User:TimSvendsen|TimSvendsen]] 11:33, 14 February 2007 (EST)

: There may been some miscommunication here then. For example, [[Conservapedia:About]] mentions it starting as "as the class project for a World History class of 58 advanced homeschooled and college-bound students" and my impression was that part of the reason for the third Conservapedia commandment was due to the presence of such students. It is possible that I have been misinformed about their general age. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 11:47, 14 February 2007 (EST)

::It was my mistake. The original article in Wikipedia used the word "teenagers." I'm not sure how I got the notion that it was middle-school age, rather than high school. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 12:21, 14 February 2007 (EST)

== "woefully inaccurate" ==

If you think certain articles are "woefully inaccurate on Conservapedia" by all means improve them. We do not want to scare people from editing this site as Wikipedia does. Please just try to keep your edits neutral... if you want to debate or discuss something then post it in the pages "Talk" page or make a debate topic. thanks - [[User:PhilipB|PhilipB]] 09:37, 20 February 2007 (EST)

==[[Real numbers]]==
Despite my snarky edit comment, I'd welcome your giving this a look. I'm trying to make it more understandable to an audience of non-college-math-majors without I hope saying anything terribly inaccurate.

Is there any name for the logical and historical ''progression'' by which you start with positive integers, add zero out of a desire to solve the equation n + x = n, add the negative numbers out of desire to close the um, set, field, whazzit under subtraction, add the fractions out of a desire to close it with respect to division, add the irrationals and transcendentals out of a desire to close it with respect to (what?) (to duplicate the cube?) (to get a one-to-one correspondence with the points on a line?), add the imaginaries and complex numbers out of a desire to have solutions for all polynomials?

And where, exactly, do the infinities fit in _in mathematics?_ I love how IEEE-784 floating-point arithmetic handles them; it has +INF and -INF which do what I expect, and NaN (Not a Number) which also up where I expect it... 1/0 = +INF, but 0/0 = NaN, not INF. INF and -INF participate happily in further operations. INF + 42 yields INF, and so forth. INF + INF yields INF. However, INF - INF, or INF + (-INF) yield NaN. There must be something like this in mathematics, but they weren't teaching it when I was learning it. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:10, 24 February 2007 (EST)

==[[Talk:Homosexuality]]==
See my own remarks on the sentence containing the phrase "extremely clear." (As you can see, I personally would have settled for dropping the word "extremely.") [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 20:05, 24 February 2007 (EST)

== CreationWiki and quotes and Theory of Evolution article ==

Thanks for your concern, however, I did not first read the quotes from CreationWiki. So there are no copyright issues. However, I did find the extensive list of CreationWiki quotes on the fossil record useful to Conservapedians so I did include a appropriate link to that material. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 22:44, 25 February 2007 (EST)conservative

::I put sources. Two of my original sources were not easily availiable (lots of websites with the same quote and a defunct website) so I used the CreationWiki as a source since the publication info was extensive so readers can easily find the quotes original sources. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:32, 25 February 2007 (EST)conservative

== Re: Additional commentary on the Theory of Evolution talk page ==

Two commnents:

1. I believe I did respond adequately previously.

2. I have some time sensitive matters I have to attend so further commentary may not becoming soon should I change my mind regarding this matter.

[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 23:49, 25 February 2007 (EST)conservative

::I read the additional commentary to the talk page and I believe I can respond to your comments quickly. 23:53, 25 February 2007 (EST)conservative

:::I was hoping to respond to your criticism quickly but unfortunately I have to go. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 00:00, 26 February 2007 (EST)conservative

== Thanks for the support ==

I was about to send a message myself, but saw that you had beaten me to it.
--[[User:Twoflower|Twoflower]] 09:24, 28 February 2007 (EST)

:Somehow however, I have the feeling that we will not accomplish much here...--[[User:Twoflower|Twoflower]] 03:33, 1 March 2007 (EST)

== YEC article ==

I saw your [[Young Earth Creationism]] (YEC) article. You created a section in the article for scientists criticisms of the YEC position but you failed to create material in the article which gave scientists arguments for a young earth. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 09:37, 1 March 2007 (EST)conservative

==Blocked==
It seems [[User:Conservative]] unilaterallty blocked you for 3 months(!), and without even the courtesy of a warning or an opportunity to address whatever he found objectionable. His doing so strikes me as a conflict of interest since you two were apparently debating that article's direction. Also, there is absolutely no infraction worthy of a block, not to mention one for 3 months, on your part that I can find. Since it's so clearly an abuse of his admin privileges I'm confident the management here, particularly [[User:Aschlafly]], won't stand for this sort of abuse of power. I hope this incident isn't indicative of how simple content disputes will be handled here and I look forward to soon seeing your sensible contributions and comments here again. [[User:Harpie snark|Harpie snark]] 13:02, 1 March 2007 (EST)

== RE: citation ==

You wrote: In regard to [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=The_Theory_of_Evolution&curid=3327&diff=17398&oldid=17394], that amounts to changing the citation which is problematic in the extreme, especially if you have not read the original. [[User:JoshuaZ|JoshuaZ]] 18:08, 1 March 2007 (EST)

:REPLY: Reread the CreationWiki citation. Plus I have read another internet source which cites the same quote.
[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:16, 1 March 2007 (EST)conservative

== My CreationWiki material where CreationWiki provides quotes ==

The [[CreationWiki]] quotes I used do cite their sources which can be checked by clicking their respective CreationWiki links to their associated sources. I see no real issue here. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 18:56, 1 March 2007 (EST)conservative

== Creationism ==

Sorry I have failed to address this issue so far. I am opting to retreat with my tail between my legs. I may return later. --[[User:Horace|Horace]] 04:59, 5 March 2007 (EST)

== Bonobos ==

Thanks for helping out with the Bonobos article. I didn't realize that some of the words mignt be too explicit. I had hoped that I used them in a clinical sense. The same words are used at the National Review and NARTH sites.

Bonobo

2007-03-06T01:32:46Z

EarlQ:

Bonobos, or pigmy chimpanzees, are an endangered1 ape species known for their sexual immorality. Proponents of evolutionary psychology often point to bonobos as examples of an evolutionary adaptation in which a species acquired the strategy of bartering sex to enhance social status or to resolve disputes2. Homosexual activists often cite bonobos as examples of animals who perform homosexual acts3, such as genital rubbing, penis fencing, and oral sex upon each other4. The National Association for Research & Therapy of Homosexuality (NARTH) argues that acts like scrotal or genital rubbing are not sexual at all. Rather they are aggressive acts to assert dominance much like when a dog mounts a person's leg5.

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1. [http://pin.primate.wisc.edu/factsheets/entry/bonobo/cons PrimateInfo.Net]

2. [http://songweaver.com/info/bonobos.html Bonobo Sex and Society]

3. Chris Bull, [http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_n735/ai_20164884 Monkey love - homosexual behavior in primates,] The Advocate, June 10, 1997.

4. Steve Sailer, [http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_1999_Sept_27/ai_55820853 "Chimps and Chumps : What monkeys don't tell us about man,"] National Review, Sept 27, 1999.

5. Luiz Sérgio Solimeo, [http://www.narth.com/docs/animalmyth.html "The Animal Homosexuality Myth,"] NARTH.

Book of Mormon

2007-03-05T19:55:49Z

EarlQ:

The Book of Mormon is one of the four standard works, or scriptures, of the [[Mormons|Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints]] (Mormons). The other standard works are the [[Bible]], the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants.

Mormons believe that [[Joseph Smith]] translated the Book of Mormon from a set of golden plates he received from an angel named Moroni1. Smith translated the golden plates by placing a pair of seer stones, called the [[Urim and Thummim]], into a hat he held tight against his face. The translated words appeared as a spiritual light.2.

The Book of Mormon tells the story of the descendents of Lehi, who took his family from Jerusalem to the Americas. According to the book, Lehi's wicked sons, Laman and Lemual, turned against his righteous sons, Nephi and Sam, and were cursed with dark skin3. Mormons believe that these people were the ancestors of Native Americans; they call them "Lamanites."4

Nephi and Sam's descendents, the Nephites, eventually turned to wickedness and were destroyed by the Lamanites. One of the last Nephites, Moroni, buried the golden plates in what is now New York State to keep them from falling into the hands of the Lamanites.5 Three Nephites were blessed with eternal life and still wander the world today helping Mormon families.6

[[Jesus]]' post-resurrection appearance in the New World is also documented in the Book of Mormon. In 1982, a subtitle, "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" was added to the title7.

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1. [http://scriptures.lds.org/js_h/1/34-35#34 "History of Joseph Smith,"] History of the Church Vol. 1.

2. Elder Russell M. Nelson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, [http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1993.htm/ensign%20july%201993.htm/a%20treasured%20testament.htm "A Treasured Testament,"] Ensign, July 1993

3. [http://www.gospeldoctrine.com/Alma3.htm GospelDoctrine.com]

4. [http://search.ldslibrary.com/125037 Elder Spencer W. Kimball of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles]

5. [http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents The Book of Mormon]

6. [http://deseretmail.com/mormon-life/curric/story?story_id=1580 "Clyde J. Williams on the Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation,"] Thoughts on Gospel Doctrine Lesson 42, Deseret Book.

7. [http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/essays/bookofmormon.htm A Short Introduction to the Book of Mormon]

Book of Mormon

2007-03-05T19:14:07Z

EarlQ:

The Book of Mormon is one of the four standard works, or scriptures, of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons). The other standard works are the Bible, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants.

Mormons believe that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from a set of golden plates he received from an angel named Moroni1. Smith translated the golden plates by placing a pair of seer stones, called the Urim and Thummim, into a hat he held tight against his face. The translated words appeared as a spiritual light.2.

The Book of Mormon tells the story of the descendents of Lehi, who took his family from Jerusalem to the Americas. His wicked sons, Laman and Lemual, turned against his righteous sons, Nephi and Sam, and were cursed with dark skin. Today, we call their descendents, "Native Americans." Mormons still refer to them as Lamanites.

Nephi and Sam's descendents, the Nephites, eventually turned to wickedness and were destroyed by the Lamanites. One of the last Nephites, Moroni, buried the golden plates in what is now New York State to keep them from falling into the hands of the Lamanites.3 Three Nephites were blessed with eternal life and still wander the world today helping Mormon families.4

Jesus' post-resurrection appearance in the New World is also documented in the Book of Mormon. In 1982, a subtitle, "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" was added to the title5.

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1. [http://scriptures.lds.org/js_h/1/34-35#34 "History of Joseph Smith,"] History of the Church Vol. 1.

2. Elder Russell M. Nelson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, [http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1993.htm/ensign%20july%201993.htm/a%20treasured%20testament.htm "A Treasured Testament,"] Ensign, July 1993

3. [http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents The Book of Mormon]

4. [http://deseretmail.com/mormon-life/curric/story?story_id=1580 "Clyde J. Williams on the Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation,"] Thoughts on Gospel Doctrine Lesson 42, Deseret Book.

5. [http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/essays/bookofmormon.htm A Short Introduction to the Book of Mormon]

Book of Mormon

2007-03-05T19:13:12Z

EarlQ:

The Book of Mormon is one of the four standard works, or scriptures, of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons). The other standard works are the Bible, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants.

Mormons believe that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from a set of golden plates he received from an angel named Moroni1. Smith translated the golden plates by placing a pair of seer stones, called the Urim and Thummim, into a hat he held tight against his face. The translated words would appear as a spiritual light.2.

The Book of Mormon tells the story of the descendents of Lehi, who took his family from Jerusalem to the Americas. His wicked sons, Laman and Lemual, turned against his righteous sons, Nephi and Sam, and were cursed with dark skin. Today, we call their descendents, "Native Americans." Mormons still refer to them as Lamanites.

Nephi and Sam's descendents, the Nephites, eventually turned to wickedness and were destroyed by the Lamanites. One of the last Nephites, Moroni, buried the golden plates in what is now New York State to keep them from falling into the hands of the Lamanites.3 Three Nephites were blessed with eternal life and still wander the world today helping Mormon families.4

Jesus' post-resurrection appearance in the New World is also documented in the Book of Mormon. In 1982, a subtitle, "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" was added to the title5.

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1. [http://scriptures.lds.org/js_h/1/34-35#34 "History of Joseph Smith,"] History of the Church Vol. 1.

2. Elder Russell M. Nelson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, [http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1993.htm/ensign%20july%201993.htm/a%20treasured%20testament.htm "A Treasured Testament,"] Ensign, July 1993

3. [http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents The Book of Mormon]

4. [http://deseretmail.com/mormon-life/curric/story?story_id=1580 "Clyde J. Williams on the Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation,"] Thoughts on Gospel Doctrine Lesson 42, Deseret Book.

5. [http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/essays/bookofmormon.htm A Short Introduction to the Book of Mormon]

Book of Mormon

2007-03-05T19:12:30Z

EarlQ:

The Book of Mormon is one of the four standard works, or scriptures, of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons). The other standard works are the Bible, the Pearl of Great Price, and the Doctrine and Covenants.

Mormons believe that Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon from a set of golden plates he received from an angel named Moroni1. Smith translated the golden plates by placing a pair of seer stones, called the Urim and Thummim, into a hat he held tight against his face. The translated words would appear as a spiritual light.2.

The Book of Mormon tells the story of the descendents of Lehi, who took his family from Jerusalem to the Americas. His wicked sons, Laman and Lemual, turned against his righteous sons, Nephi and Sam, and were cursed with dark skin. Today, we call their descendents, "Native Americans." Mormons still refer to them as Lamanites.

Nephi and Sam's descendents, the Nephites, eventually turned to wickedness and were destroyed by the Lamanites. One of the last Nephites, Moroni, buried the golden plates in what is now New York State to keep them from falling into the hands of the Lamanites.3 Three Nephites were blessed with eternal life and still wander the world today helping Mormon families.4

Jesus' post-resurrection appearance in the New World is also documented in the Book of Mormon. In 1982, a subtitle, "Another Testament of Jesus Christ" was added to the title5.

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1. [http://scriptures.lds.org/js_h/1/34-35#34 "History of Joseph Smith,"] History of the Church Vol. 1.
2. Elder Russell M. Nelson of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, [http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1993.htm/ensign%20july%201993.htm/a%20treasured%20testament.htm "A Treasured Testament,"] Ensign, July 1993
3. [http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/contents The Book of Mormon]
4. [http://deseretmail.com/mormon-life/curric/story?story_id=1580 "Clyde J. Williams on the Three Nephites and the Doctrine of Translation,"] Thoughts on Gospel Doctrine Lesson 42, Deseret Book.
5. [http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/essays/bookofmormon.htm A Short Introduction to the Book of Mormon]