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Non-Violent Video Games

2021-04-20T19:28:37Z

DouglasA: SimCity promotes big government, while Sonic is anti-capitalist environmentalism

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'''Non-Violent Video Games''' are [[video games]] that are not [[violent video games|violent]], and can help educate and entertain children in a safe, [[family-friendly]] manner. Ratings are usually useful for determining if a game is family-friendly, but this doesn't always work better than actually knowing the game, as some games may contain elements not taken in consideration when rated or may simply lack educational value. Examples of [[non-violent video games]] include:

*[[Tetris]] - the player requires quick-thinking skills to align falling blocks in order to obtain points.

*[[Mario|Mario series]] - all the games from the Mario series are family friendly and the types of games vary widely, examples are sports games, party games or traditionally platform games. Some games require mental or physical dexterity, strategy, etc.

*[[Madden (video game)|Madden]] - players can draft football teams and create their own defensive and offensive playbooks, helping children to learn strategy and quick-thinking skills.

*[[Adventures of Lolo]] - players assume the role of Lolo and rescue the kidnapped Princess Lulu. Players guide Lolo through a series of puzzles.

*[[The Bible Game]] - a [[Christian]]-themed party game with trivia questions related to the [[Bible]]

*[[Kirby]] series - a family-friendly and easy to play platform game where the player must use his reasoning to solve puzzles, usually involving obtaining special powers from enemies. The series also includes puzzle games (Kirby's Star Stacker), a Breakout clone (Kirby's Block Ball), and various others.

*[[Pac-Man]] - the player must guide himself through a labyrinth in order to collect pills while at the same time using his mental dexterity to avoid ghosts chasing him.

*[[Minecraft]] - While there are PvP fights, there is also a Creative mode in which players don’t typically die. In creative, you are free to create or destroy whatever you want without any limitations. Players can even create rudimentary programs with redstone.

The Forza Horizon/Motorsport series - There is no swearing, no violence and no blood.
==Indirect Violence==
It should be noted that in some games, especially platform games, that player controlled characters can die by falling into holes or on spikes, common in Mario and Sonic games. Also, these games feature "boss battles" where a player must defeat an opponent, usually through physical means, such as jumping on the boss's head.

Party games, however, are usually non-violent, but may require parental review.

==External links==
*[http://www.plaingames.com/ Plain Games].
*[http://www.familyfriendlygaming.com/ Family Friendly Gaming].
*[http://www.ccgr.org/links/christian-gaming.html Christ Centered Game Reviews].

==See also==
*[[Violent video games]]

[[Category:Video Games]]

Python (programming language)

2021-04-20T19:24:40Z

DouglasA:

Python redirects here. For other uses, see [[Python (disambiguation)]]
[[Image:Python-logo.gif|right|thumb|Python logo|400px]]
'''Python''' is a high-level programming language created by Guido van Rossum in 1991. It is a multi-paradigm language with a fully dynamic type system and automatic garbage collection.

Python 2.7 reached its official end-of-life at the end of 2019. Almost all software is using the 3.x branch now.<ref>{{cite web | url=https://python3statement.org/ | title = Moving to require Python 3}}</ref>

The most popular implementation of Python is the CPython implementation maintained by the Python Software Foundation. Currently developed under an [[open source]] model and licensed under its own Python Software Foundation License, CPython is a byte-code interpreter that comes with a rich library that includes modules for creating graphical user interface, relational database, arbitrary precision arithmetic, complex arithmetic, unit testing, regular expression, XML parsing, C/C++ interfacing and zip compression; combined, these features makes it a powerful glue language between lower-level machine languages and higher level languages and programs.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://python.org/about/ | title= About Python | work=Python Software Foundation }}</ref> In addition to the built-in libraries, python is extended by a multitude of third party packages, many of which are open source that provide features not available in the python proper. For example, the twin packages scipy<ref>{{cite web|url = http://www.scipy.org/ | title = Scipy | work = Enthought}}</ref> and numpy<ref>{{cite web|url=http://numpy.scipy.org/ |title = Numpy|work=Enthought}}</ref> extend python with a large collection of functions for scientific work and numerical analysis giving python powered applications access to optimized algorithms and high level math functions that rivals that of leading proprietary software packages like [[Mathematica]] and [[Matlab]]. Other third party packages allow programmers to write fully featured [[GUI]]<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro| title = PyQt}}</ref> and 3D<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.panda3d.org/| title = Panda3D}}</ref> applications.

Other popular Python implementations include [[Jython]], written in [[Java]], and [[IronPython]], for [[Microsoft]]'s [[.Net framework|.NET framework]].

== Hello World ==
An example program often used for languages is something that displays "Hello, World!".
print('Hello, World!')

==See also==
*[http://www.python.org/ Python Software Foundation]
*[http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython IronPython]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Computer Programming]]
[[Category:Programming Languages]]
[[Category:Scripting Languages]]

Python (programming language)

2021-04-20T19:24:17Z

DouglasA: py2 -> 3

Python redirects here. For other uses, see [[Python (disambiguation)]]
[[Image:Python-logo.gif|right|thumb|Python logo|400px]]
'''Python''' is a high-level programming language created by Guido van Rossum in 1991. It is a multi-paradigm language with a fully dynamic type system and automatic garbage collection.

Python 2.7 reached its official end-of-life at the end of 2019. Almost all software is using the 3.x branch now.<ref>{{cite web | url=https://python3statement.org/ | title = Moving to require Python 3}}</ref>

The most popular implementation of Python is the CPython implementation maintained by the Python Software Foundation. Currently developed under an [[open source]] model and licensed under its own Python Software Foundation License, CPython is a byte-code interpreter that comes with a rich library that includes modules for creating graphical user interface, relational database, arbitrary precision arithmetic, complex arithmetic, unit testing, regular expression, XML parsing, C/C++ interfacing and zip compression; combined, these features makes it a powerful glue language between lower-level machine languages and higher level languages and programs.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://python.org/about/ | title= About Python | work=Python Software Foundation }}</ref> In addition to the built-in libraries, python is extended by a multitude of third party packages, many of which are open source that provide features not available in the python proper. For example, the twin packages scipy<ref>{{cite web|url = http://www.scipy.org/ | title = Scipy | work = Enthought}}</ref> and numpy<ref>{{cite web|url=http://numpy.scipy.org/ |title = Numpy|work=Enthought}}</ref> extend python with a large collection of functions for scientific work and numerical analysis giving python powered applications access to optimized algorithms and high level math functions that rivals that of leading proprietary software packages like [[Mathematica]] and [[Matlab]]. Other third party packages allow programmers to write fully featured [[GUI]]<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro| title = PyQt}}</ref> and 3D<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.panda3d.org/| title = Panda3D}}</ref> applications.

Other popular Python implementations include [[Jython]], written in [[Java]], and [[IronPython]], for [[Microsoft]]'s [[.Net framework|.NET framework]].

''Italic text''== Hello World ==
An example program often used for languages is something that displays "Hello, World!".
print('Hello, World!')

==See also==
*[http://www.python.org/ Python Software Foundation]
*[http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython IronPython]

==References==
<references/>

[[Category:Computer Programming]]
[[Category:Programming Languages]]
[[Category:Scripting Languages]]

Essay:Worst Liberal Movies

2019-04-24T20:10:55Z

DouglasA:

While a good amount of [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies|great conservative films]] is produced every year, [[Hollywood values|Hollywood]] continues to produce films that attempt to normalize and aggrandize amoral lifestyles and liberal bias. Below is a list of some of the more outrageous examples:

==Politically liberal live-action films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)

|-
|''The 5th Wave''
|2016
|PG-13
|The military consists of evil aliens in what was overall a failed franchise that couldn't get on the recent young adult book-to-film bandwagon.
|$34,912,982
|-
|''Alien'' Franchise
|1979-2017
|R
|This pro-feminist, anti-capitalist film franchise was originated by atheist Ridley Scott. The first film was proven to be alarmingly similar to the 1965 film ''Planet of the Vampires'',<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzToy-Tjz5g</ref> but since it fitted the left's agenda, they didn't care and gave it biased reviews anyway. The second film, ''Aliens'', is an anti-Vietnam statement<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T543J2L-gXU</ref> and, just like its predecessor, copies another previous feature (in this case, the 1954 film ''Them!''<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVoX-C9J4Zk</ref>).
|$515,930,723 (all together)
|-
|''All the Way''
|2016
|TV-14
|The 2016 HBO film based on the presidency of Democrat [[Lyndon B. Johnson]] is a good example of a historical revisionist film, palatable for liberals' regressive dominion of the media. Liberals seized the opportunity with the film to distort history in order to hold Johnson in high regard and also ignored many of the President's faults, including his racism, the War on Poverty and how it created a welfare state which, by design, destroyed untold numbers of African American families.
|
|-
|''American Psycho''
|2000
|R
|Don't be fooled by the false patriotic title. It's the most [[Anti-American]] film you'll ever see because it attempts to pass a stockbroker off as a secret serial killer.
|$15,070,285
|-
|''Assault on Wall Street''
|2013
|R
|Uwe Boll (often referred to as the worst director of this generation and known for his furious, vulgar, and spiteful responses to negative reception)<ref>https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Uwe-Boll-considered-one-of-the-worst-film-directors-in-history</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvLQb2uwW4</ref> makes one of the most historically inaccurate modern films that blames capitalism for the [[Recession of 2008|Great Recession]] and the downfall of the everyday man's life. The film plays out like an angry middle school boy's fan fiction revenge story, in which all the bankers are summarily executed (as in the [[Russian Revolution]]). Boll has said how "We need to ****ing kill the rich", which only shows how uneducated he is.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQJwEAqzFs4</ref>
|
|-
|''Apocalypse Now''
|1979
|R
|This overindulgent, anti-war diatribe portrays the American military as corrupt, incompetent [[drug addiction|drug-users]].
|$78,784,010
|-
|''Battleship Potemkin''
|1925
|NR
|This silent Communist film heralds the Soviet Revolt on the Tsarist Russian battleship ''Potemkin''. When mutinying, the sailors murder a Christian chaplain aboard, which is shown as an act of "heroism".
|N/A
|-
|''The Big Green''
|1995
|PG
|The movie had one of the characters blame "Reaganomics" for the lack of job opportunities in the town and also one of the team's players was an anchor baby. In the end, one of the coaches, who was a sheriff in Texas, was able to get the player and his illegal mother a way to stay. So it was also favorable toward illegal immigration.
|$17,736,619
|-
|''The Birth of a Nation''
|1915
|N/A
|This infamously racist film, once the longest ever made, begins by documenting the [[American Civil War]], then depicts the [[Ku Klux Klan]] as "heroes" who vanquish people of color, who are black racial stereotypes, from political positions and from their lawful right to vote (the KKK was founded by the Democrat Party, even though the Left has repeatedly tried denying the connection between the two). It was the first ever film to be shown at the White House under Democrat President [[Woodrow Wilson]], and it significantly influenced his already-racist core to segregate the White House and various departments.
|
|-
|''Blue State''
|2007
|R
|What looks like a romantic comedy actually encourages the false idea that [[liberalism]] must be established and conservatism abolished in America, as the main character follows up on his absurd vow to move to Canada if [[George W. Bush]] is re-elected president.
|
|-
|''Bob Roberts''
|1992
|R
|This anti-conservative propaganda piece, directed by leftist Tim Robbins and released during the 1992 election, has a similar premise to that of ''The Candidate'' and denigrates conservatives.
|$4,479,470
|-
|''Born on the Fourth of July''
|1989
|R
|This radically anti-[[Vietnam War]] biographical film was produced and directed by Communist sympathizer and twice wounded Vietnam War veteran Oliver Stone, starring Tom Cruise as paralyzed Vietnam War vet-turned-anti-Vietnam War leftist protester and Communist sympathizer [[Ron Kovic]].
|$70,001,698
|-
|''The Butler''
|2013
|PG-13
|[[Ronald Reagan]] is falsely portrayed as indifferent toward apartheid in South Africa; Nancy Reagan is played by anti-American traitor Jane Fonda; and staunch feminist Oprah Winfrey plays Cecil's wife.
|$116,632,095
|-
|''The Candidate''
|1972
|PG
|This "comedy" fails to be a political satire as it fails to lampoon both sides of the coin and supports [[George McGovern]] at every turn. It was released during the 1972 election year as a smear campaign against [[Richard Nixon]] and his conservative colleagues. Conservative star [[James Stewart]] refused to star in it for that reason.<ref>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068334/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv</ref>
|
|-
|''[[Capitalism: A Love Story]]''
|2009
|PG-13
|Michael Moore, staying true to his propaganda film format, relentlessly attacks America's [[capitalist]] [[economy]] with claims of alleged financial inequality.
|$14,363,397
|-
|''Casualties of War''
|1989
|R
|This anti-Vietnam war statement film starring Sean Penn involves a gang of American soldiers raping a Vietnamese woman. This paints America soldiers as the bad guys while failing to acknowledge how the Viet Cong, Khmer Rouge, and other Communist Insurgents did the same thing to a far larger scale.
|$18,671,317
|-
|''Che''
|2008; 2009
|NR
|As implied by the name, the film is a two-part biopic for the Argentine Marxist terrorist and mass murderer [[Che Guevara]], who is treated sympathetically as a "martyr" for Communism.
|US$40.9 million
|-
|''The China Syndrome''
|1979
|PG
|A fictional [[nuclear power]] plant melts down. The film greatly over-hypes this risk of a [[nuclear accident]] (or meltdown) and the resultant damage. This film, along with the [[Three Mile Island]] incident (which occurred shortly after the film's release), are both credited for killing the nuclear power industry in America.
|$51,718,367
|-
|''Chuck & Buck''
|2000
|R
|Debauched independent film about a man who revisits another man he traumatized through sexual grooming as a child. The message is that in some instances, groomers are the real victims and greatly misunderstood because of their need for casual sex. Also, if their victims weren't "brainwashed" by moralistic views about sex, most of them would consent to it and see it as a good thing, and no trauma would ever happen. In the film, when he meets the man he seduced in their youth, he encourages him to cheat on his wife, who is "holding him back", and have sex with him in order to desensitize him to hedonism and see monogamy as a perversion. The director and writer of the film is openly bisexual, and plays the role of the groomer who initiates the encounter. He admits it is based on his experiences and fantasies.
|N/A
|-
|''A Clockwork Orange''
|1972
|X
|Revels in sex and violence and mocks Christian prison education. Depicts police as thugs recruited from street gangs.
|
|-
|''The Contender''
|2000
|R
|This film about the 2000 presidential election is little more than a pro-[[Al Gore]] propaganda piece by liberal studio executives and [[Hollywood values]]. Conservative star Gary Oldman also told IGN that the film was to supposed to be apolitical, but it was edited to vilify Republicans.<ref>http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/02/26/interview-with-gary-oldman</ref>
|$17,872,723
|-
|''Das Boot''
|1981
|R
|This anti-American war film looks at [[World War II]] from the Nazi perspective.
|$11,487,676
|-
|''Day of the Dead''
|1985
|R
|Liberal scientists who plan to tame zombies are the "heroes", while the common sense conservative soldiers (whose plan is to euthanize them all) are the "villains".
|$5,000,000
|-
|''Dawn of the Dead''
|1978
|R
|Besides containing outbursts of graphic violence, this stand-alone sequel to George A. Romero's ''Night of the Living Dead'' is against capitalism because the consumers are zombies.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9487PyyblpQ</ref> The 2004 Zack Snyder-directed remake abandoned this.
|$55 million
|-
|''Dead Man Walking''
|1995
|R
|It senselessly criticizes [[capital punishment]] with an ending that left some liberal viewers even more confused.
|$39,363,635
|-
|''The Devil's Backbone''
|2001
|R
|Promotes the Communistic Spanish Loyalists in the Spanish Civil War as "good guys" while demonizing [[Francisco Franco]]'s forces. These themes, promoted by Marxist director Guillermo del Toro, were later expanded upon in ''Pan's Labyrinth''.
|US$6.5 million
|-
|''The Dictator''
|2012
|R
|A Middle Easterner takes over America in this raunchy, vulgar "comedy" straining for controversy.
|$59,650,222
|-
|''Dogville''
|2003
|R
|An [[Anti-American]] propaganda film.
|$16,680,836
|-
|''Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb''
|1964
|NR
|Loosely based on Peter George's 1958 thriller novel ''Red Alert'', this black comedy is against war, the military, and nuclear weaponry and tries to downplay the seriousness of Cold War-era fears of a nuclear apocalypse.
|$9.4 million in North America
|-
|''The Eternal Jew''
|1940
|NR
|This anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda film was made with direct input from Adolf Hitler, who made sure the anti-Semitism was as blunt and direct as possible. Most audiences were shocked at the crudity of the messages.
|Unknown
|-
|''Fahrenheit 9/11''
|2004
|R
|A [[Michael Moore]] movie, which distorts the tangential link between the [[Bush]] family and the [[Bin Laden]] family. The title was also taken from ''[[Fahrenheit 451]]'', a book that warned people about book burnings, proving that not only do liberals steal titles from other works, but aren't even creative on how to have the titles directly connect to their works.
|$119,194,771
|-
|''Fair Game''
|2010
|PG-13
|Another Bush bash flick starring [[Communist]] Sean Penn. 2010 film rehashes the lead up to the [[Iraq War|war in Iraq]] and [[Valerie Plame]]'s role. It's a typical un-American Hollywood film with "The narrative that [[Karl Rove]] and [[Dick Cheney]]'s Chief of Staff [[Scooter Libby]] were nefarious behind-the-scenes players intent on destroying innocent reputations while pushing the nation into war on false pretenses." There's also no mention of Iraq Liberation Act which was signed by [[Bill Clinton]] five years before the war in Iraq.
|$9,540,691
|-
|''Fire Down Below''
|1997
|R
|Steven Seagal plays a Gary Stu-like role in this environmentalist feature.
|$16,228,448
|-
|''[[Frost/Nixon]]''
|2008
|R
|As implied by the title, it attempts to further tarnish the reputation of [[Richard Nixon]].
|$18,622,031
|-
|''Game Change''
|2012
|Not Rated
|[[Liberal]] haters play [[conservative]]s in an [[HBO]] film about [[Sarah Palin]]. Many debunked controversies are highlighted in the plot. Both [[John McCain|McCain]] and Palin denounced the film and called it fiction.
|NA - TV
|-
|''God Bless America''
|2011
|R
|Despite its name the movie is a rip-off of the conservative film ''Falling Down'', this "comedy" has a miserable man and his foul-mouthed [[nihilist]] girl sidekick summary executes [[Tea Party]] members, a Fox News like-host, Christians, and other conservative stereotypes.
|$123,000
|-
|''The Good Shepherd''
|2006
|R
|Despite covering the founding of the CIA, the film was extremely anti-CIA in its messaging, where it doubles down on making the CIA look as bad as possible and overemphasizes on CIA failures such as the Bay of Pigs invasion and their experimenting with LSD, while conveniently ignoring the crimes the KGB and similar intelligence agencies within the Soviet bloc.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/</ref>
|$99.5 million
|-
|''Green Zone''
|2010
|R
|Is extremely anti-War on Terror to such an extent that it comes across as blatantly anti-American, as it repeats the falsehood that Pentagon officials lied about there being WMDs in Iraq simply so they could gin up a war in the Middle East (completely ignoring that various other intelligence agencies, including even France, a country that didn't even want a War with Iraq, acknowledging that Saddam had WMDs), and even had the main villain, who was modeled after Donald Rumsfeld, sending assassination teams against those in the know about the conspiracy. The film even went as far as to portray Iraqi terrorists as the "good guys". The film was also notorious as being Universal Studios' biggest box office bomb as a result.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/3/</ref>
|$94.9 million
|-
|''Hidden Agenda''
|1990
|R
|Depicts the [[IRA]] oppressed freedom fighters while painting the Unionists as monsters. The film also doesn't speak highly of [[Margaret Thatcher]] either.
|
|-
|''Independence Day: Resurgence''
|2016
|R
|Although it is the sequel to the patriotic and to a certain extent conservative film ''Independence Day'', it does not at all reference the concepts of patriotism, American exceptionalism, or even national sovereignty. Instead, most of the movie seems to support globalism, and Doctor Okun is revealed to be a homosexual despite such never being implied in the original film. Forced multicultural elements are present as well.
|$389.7 million
|-
|''JFK''
|1991
|R
|This historically inaccurate account on President John F. Kennedy's assassination serves liberal filmmaker Oliver Stone's insanely fanatic conspiracy theories. For example, the filmmaker pinpoints the blame to the "real murder" of Kennedy: the conservative politicians, the U.S. Military, and then-Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson, all of whom want America to go to war in Vietnam because Kennedy rejected the American involvement. Stone described the film as a "counter-myth" to the Warren Commission's "fictional myth."
|$70,405,498
|-
|''Lolita'' (1997 film)
|1997
|R
|The second film to be based on Vladimir Nabokov's infamous novel, the first being by Stanley Kubrick. However, in contrast to the very tame Kubrick version (limited only by the censorship of it's day), this version indulges with the gratuitous sexuality that made the book so controversial. The story portrays the relationship of Lolita and Humbert as a beautiful romance. Also, as implied by the tagline of the film's poster, the main message is that "Age is Just a Number".
|$1.1 million
|-
|''The Lone Ranger''
|2013
|PG-13
|This attack on [[capitalist]]s and the [[military]] portrays the former as ruthless, greedy railroad executives and the latter as "thugs" who support their actions. It distorts the messages of its source material by displaying the [[Lone Ranger]], shown to be a smart intellectual character in the original TV and radio serials, as dumbfounded and unintelligent, instead featuring his sidekick [[Tonto]] (played by [[liberal]] [[marijuana|pot]]-smoker [[Johnny Depp]]) not only as the "star" of the film but as the Lone Ranger's "voice of reason", too.
|$89,302,115
|-
|''Love, Simon''
|2018
|PG-13
|This coming-of-age film is an attempt by Hollywood to create a "family friendly", pseudo-conservative take on the gay romance genre. While in theory this sounds less objectionable than most offerings of this kind, it could also be considered more deceptive and dangerous. This is because it obscures the uglier, raunchier aspects of the gay lifestyle in order to create a very misleading, "heartwarming" fantasy of gay life and relationships.
|$66.3 million
|-
|''The Magnificent Seven'' (2016 film)
|2016
|PG-13
|This remake of a Western about seven vigilante gunfighters out to save a peaceful Mexican farming village from marauders (itself an adaptation of the Japanese cinematic classic ''Seven Samurai'') suits the left agenda, as capitalists are the "villains".<ref>http://missliberty.com/magnificent-seven-remake-is-angry-radical-fantasy/</ref>
|$93,145,387
|-
|''Manderlay''
|2003
|R
|[[James Caan]] refused to star in this anti-American sequel to ''Dogville'', describing director Lars von Trier as anti-American and stated that he himself is an "ultra-conservative".
|$674,918
|-
|''The Matrix'' trilogy
|1999 (''[[The Matrix]]''); 2003 (''The Matrix Reloaded'' and ''The Matrix Revolutions'')
|R
|A hacker discovers his world is a replica of the world as it was before a cataclysmic future event in which intelligent machines took over humanity, so he joins a resistance to end the machines' reign. Despite this salvation narrative, the whole trilogy glorifies anarchism and [[nihilism]] (even including a brief nod to [[Jean Baudrillard]]'s "On Nihilism" chapter from Simulacra and Simulation), hinting several times towards a pro-Communist, anti-American, [[anti-Christian]] view. The second film's Architect scene tries to give a "devastating critique/twist" to salvation myths, with the Architect as a malevolent allegorical substitute for the Christian [[God]]. In this same scene, a panel of screens implicitly compares [[George W. Bush]] to Hitler during a discussion of evil in the world, and it features wars and conflicts specifically involving America. In fact, far-[[leftist|Left]] [[race-baiting]] scholar Cornel West was hired to play a role in the film specifically because the [[The Wachowskis|Wachowski Brothers]] (as they were known at the time) were influenced by his pro-socialist/Communist and anti-American rhetoric. The first film's throwaway dialogue between the main villain Agent Smith and the treasonous freedom fighter Cipher is a shallow attempt at insulting [[Ronald Reagan]] because Smith implies that Cipher will become the next Ronald Reagan should he succeed in betraying his allies to the agents. The trilogy's overall depiction of religion is closer to Gnosticism, even with Neo, the main protagonist, presented as a savior-figure. The Wachowskis openly admitted in an interview that they deliberately modeled the entire story after Friedrich Nietzche's writings.<ref>http://www.equip.org/article/the-matrix-unloaded-revelations/</ref><ref>Peter Bart, “Cracking the Wachowski’s Code,” Variety.com, May 25, 2003.</ref> The trilogy has been cited as the cause for various murders, ultimately leading to a variant of the [[insanity defense]] known as the Matrix Defense<ref>https://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/21/ctv.matrix.insanity/</ref>, and it shares similar themes to the [[Worst Liberal Video Games|Worst Liberal Video Game]] ''Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty'' because Hideo Kojima confessed that he intended to use the same themes for the game.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130328062143/http://www.gamespot.com/news/hideo-kojima-speaks-about-the-matrix-2448486</ref>
| $592,370,339 (all together)
|-
|''Midnight in Paris''
|2011
|PG-13
|The main character, a liberal author, is open-minded and intellectual. He has an unsuccessful relationship with a woman whose family is Republican and are depicted as being "materialistic", "selfish", "narrow-minded" and "hateful" towards any country that is not the United States.
|$56,816,662
|-
|''Milk''
|2008
|R
|Sean Penn portrays openly homosexual politician [[Harvey Milk]] in this biography.
|$31,841,299
|-
|''The Motorcycle Diaries''
|2004
|R
|Walter Salles directs this fawning monument to [[Communist]] terrorist and mass murderer [[Che Guevara]].
|$16,781,387
|-
|''The Naked Gun 2½: The Smell of Fear''
|1991
|15
|The more openly liberal sequel to the apolitical ''The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!'' pushes environmentalism and attacks productive businesses, especially the oil industry.
|$86,930,411
|-
|''[[Night of the Living Dead]]''
|1968
|R
|This independent horror abomination by George A. Romero vilifies [[nuclear energy]], as nuclear fallout from an exploding space probe in Earth's atmosphere is said to be the cause of the recently deceased becoming reanimated. In addition, it negatively portrays police officers as racist: a group of officers kills Ben, the African American protagonist, when they mistake him for one of the dead, which Romero intentionally chose to have happen to accuse the police of being behind racial lynchings. Had two [[sequel]]s , ''Dawn of the Dead'' (1978 Italian) and ''Day of the Dead'' (1985).
|
|-
|''Nixon''
|1995
|R
|This historically inaccurate biography of [[Richard Nixon]] is directed by liberal filmmaker [[Oliver Stone]].
|$13,681,765
|-
|''Okja''
|2017
|N/A
|This environmentalist propaganda piece vilifies capitalists and essentially plagiarizes the Buster Keaton classic ''Go West''.
|
|-
|''On Deadly Ground''
|1994
|R
|The film demonizes the oil industry as greedy and unsympathetic while praising the [[EPA]].
|$38,590,458
|-
|''Pan's Labyrinth''
|2006
|R
|Aside from it promoting paganism and the occult, it also demonized [[Francisco Franco]]'s Spain and promoted the Spanish Republicans from the Spanish Civil War due to it being made by Marxist director [[Guillermo del Toro]].<ref>https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2007/01/19/pans-labyrinth-allegory-of-spanish-civil-war/</ref>
|$83.3 million
|-
|''The Post''
|2017
|R
|An obvious promotion of the leaking of the ''[[Pentagon Papers]]''. It treats the liberal journalists who committed the leaking in a positive light, while depicting Nixon in a negative light (despite Nixon never being responsible for the Pentagon Papers in the first place, and it being done under the auspices of Democrats JFK and LBJ).
|$179.8 million
|-
|''Recount''
|2008
|Not Rated
|The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the [[United States presidential election, 2000|2000 Presidential election]] and its aftermath in [[Florida]], presented from a [[Liberal bias|liberal-biased]] viewpoint. A look into how [[Democrats]] and their [[Mainstream media|liberal media]] supporters claim the [[Republicans]] "stole" the [[election]] and the alleged role of its party members that the Democrats claim "made it happen" (although in reality, it was the Democrats themselves who tried to steal the election for their candidate [[Al Gore]] [[United States presidential election, 2000#Recount|by attempting to commit vote fraud in Florida through ordering selective recounts in Democrat-friendly areas while ignoring Republican-strong areas]], only to be stopped when the US Supreme Court ruled the Democrats' end-run attempt around election rules to be illegal). Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real [[Warren Christopher]] and [[James Baker]] contend the film's portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue.
|NA - TV
|-
|''Redacted''
|2007
|R
|Brian De Palma’s 2007 fictional anti-Iraq War film funded by Mark Cuban. The film is credited with inspiring a [[terrorist]] attack that killed two U.S. servicemen in [[Germany]].
|$65,388
|-
|''Reds''
|1981
|PG
|As a biographical film on the life of notorious American [[Communist]] journalist John Reed, ''Reds'' is a sentimental and overly romanticized portrait of [[Communism]], [[humanism]], and [[anarchism]].
|$40,382,659
|-
|''The Return of the Living Dead''
|1985
|R
|In another stand-alone sequel to ''Night of the Living Dead'', the military is supposedly responsible for the release of a toxin that turns people into zombies. The military is also shown to be inconstant, as they "fix" this by nuking the city of zombies. An anti-[[Ronald Reagan|Reagan]] statement some may say (the Left feared that Reagan would create nuclear holocaust, which is present in this film).
|$14,237,880
|-
|''Robocop''
|1987
|R
|Left-wing smut-peddler Paul Verhoeven's failed attempt to depict all police forces and corporations as evil. It also contains an [[environmentalism|environmentalist]] message with the "6000 SUX," a car that pollutes and guzzles gas for no other reason than to be environmentally unfriendly. Also a grotesque parody of Christ's resurrection.
|
|-
|''Sacco e Vanzetti''
|1971
|UR
|As implied by the title, the film acts as a biopic of the anarchist murderers [[Sacco and Vanzetti]], with them being portrayed in a sympathetic light. In addition, the [[Essay:Worst Liberal Song|Worst Liberal Song]] "Here's to You", also dealing with the two anarchists in a similar light, was released with this movie as part of its soundtrack.
|N/A
|-
|''Shoot 'Em Up''
|2007
|R
|An anti-second amendment film, the so-called "hero" is a [[nihilist]] and the "villains" are trying to defend gun rights and the Second Amendment.
|$12,807,139
|-
|''Short Circuit''
|1986
|PG (Should be PG-13)
|On top of just being an blatant ''E.T.'' rip-off, ''Short Circuit'' also downgrades the military (or the Reagan Administration in general).
|$40,697,761
|-
|''[[SiCKO]]''
|2007
|PG-13
|Another Michael Moore film which spread many falsehoods about American [[healthcare]] while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of [[socialized medicine]] such as now found in [[Obamacare]]. Memorably referred to [[Cuba]]n healthcare as being "better" than American healthcare.
|$24,540,079
|-
|''The Siege''
|1998
|R
|Don't be fooled by the fact that Bruce Willis is in it. Willis plays the antagonist, an Army general who institutes martial law in New York City after a wave of terrorist attacks. Portrays Muslims as the "victims" while demonizing the military.
|$40,932,372
|-
|''Star Trek: Into Darkness''
|2013
|PG-13
|Aside from it being a blatant ripoff on ''Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan'' in terms of plotline, the film also has several anti-War on Terror messages, as indicated by both Benedict Cumberbatch and Simon Pegg.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/2/22/4-ways-star-trek-into-darkness-shills-for-surrender-in-the-war-on-terror/</ref>
|$467.4 million
|-
|''Süss the Jew''
|1940
|NR
|Anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda film, that was notorious for it successfully pushing the anti-Semitic agenda throughout Nazi Germany via a subtle method.
|Unknown.
|-
|''Syriana''
|2005
|R
|Is anti-War on Terror, with the film heavily implying that Saudi Arabia was in the middle of liberal reforms that America interfered with due to oil businessmen (despite the exact opposite being true).<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/4/</ref>
|$94 million
|-
|''They Live''
|1988
|R
|Capitalists are portrayed as evil aliens planning to rule the world. The director John Carpenter also claimed in interviews that the film was anti-[[Ronald Reagan]]<ref>http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/john-carpenter-they-live-was-about-giving-the-finger-to-reagan/#/0</ref>
|$13,008,928
|-
|''The Thomas Crown Affair''
|1968
|R
|Supports the claim that capitalism causes crime.
| $14 million
|-
|''Tomorrowland''
|2015
|PG
|Don't let the fact that the film had basis on the theme park proposed by [[Walt Disney]] fool you. The film was anti-capitalist and pro-liberal/progressive values propaganda with it pushing the exact opposite messages that Disney himself wanted to impart. Bill Whittle, when reviewing the film, even mentioned that had he still been alive and saw the film, Disney would most likely have torn up his proposal for [[Disneyland]] and proceeded to drink himself to death in despair of what the film claimed his idea was.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmxeoh69G4o</ref>
|$209.2 million
|-
|''Tout va Bien''
|1972
|NR
|[[Jane Fonda]] "art film" directed by [[Jean-Luc Godard]], who was notoriously anti-American and idolized [[Karl Marx]], is nothing more than a propaganda film for Communism, as it sympathizes with the youths who partook in the [[May 1968 riots|May 1968 Communist uprisings]] in [[France]] and features blunt anti-American imagery.
|
|-
|''Triumph of the Will''
|1935
|N/A
|The world's most infamous Nazi propaganda film (even though the Left denies it, the Nazis were in truth left wing National Socialists).
|
|-
|''Trumbo''
|2015
|R
|Dalton Trumbo, one of the Hollywood Ten who was jailed for his Communist beliefs, is portrayed as a free-speech martyr, and a "champion" of the First Amendment. All of his controversial beliefs are whitewashed, including his support of Lenin, Hitler (until the Nazi-Soviet Pact fell), Kim Il-Sung, and, of course, Stalin. Conversely, anti-Communists such as John Wayne, Hedda Hopper, Robert Taylor, Roy Brewer, the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), and the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals (MPA) are falsely portrayed as "hateful", "oppressive", and anti-free-speech.
|$7,857,741
|-
|''Truth''
|2015
|R
|Highly fictionalized political docudrama about the Killian documents controversy meant to further tarnish the reputation of [[George W. Bush]]. The film was not approved by current CBS President and CEO Leslie Moonves and CBS refused to air advertisements for the film due to its, as the network stated, "inaccuracies and distortions".
|$2,541,854
|-
|''V for Vendetta''
|2005
|R
|Blatantly glorifies [[anarchism]], [[socialism]], [[Communism]] and [[homosexuality]].
|$70,511,035
|-
|''[[W.]]''
|2008
|PG-13
|A movie designed to denigrate the role of [[Christianity]] in U.S. [[politics]] and particularly in the life of [[George W. Bush]].
|$25,534,493
|-
|''White House Down''
|2013
|PG-13
|Mocks conservatives with a liberal plot twist that makes the [[TEA Party]] out to be "terrorists". This movie was made by uber-liberals to counter great conservative film; ''Olympus Has Fallen'', which depicts North Korean terrorists as the bad guys.
|$73,103,784
|-
|''Winchester''
|2018
|PG-13
|Based loosely on the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California. The film focuses more on its anti-gun message than the actual paranormal events.<ref>https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/winchester-confronts-the-american-curse-of-firearms</ref>
|
|-
|''Z''
|1969
|R
|Liberal propaganda that blames the [[military]] for liberal wrongdoing.
|$14,283,305
|-
|}

==Socially liberal live-action films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days''
|2007
|NR
|This Romanian film baselessly supports [[abortion]]. Liberals praised it when it won the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival.
|$1,198,208
|-
|''American Pie''
|1999
|R
|The first installment of a long-running film franchise primarily dealing with teenage sex and alcohol relies on jokes about sex and bodily functions, even treating date rape as "funny".
|$102,561,004
|-
|''Animal House''
|1978, full title ''National Lampoon's Animal House''
|R
|This college "comedy" glorifies [[alcohol abuse]], debauchery, [[nihilism]], extramarital sex, and all varieties of youthful rebellion. The dean, played by John Vernon, suggests that being "Fat, drunk and stupid, son, is no way to go through life" to one of the rebellious youth representing the rowdy Delta Tau Chi fraternity, but he's depicted as the villain because of that. After the Delta boys are finally punished by being collectively expelled from college, they exact their revenge by sabotaging a homecoming parade and do not face punishment for such a great misdeed. Even so, the film's "hero", portrayed by one of Hollywood's most amoral actors ever, John Belushi, goes on to become a U.S. Senator, which is passed off as humorous.
|$141,600,000
|-
|''Atomic Blonde''
|2017
|R
|This Cold War film's major themes are feminism, the LGBT agenda, and racism against those with dark hair and eyes.
|$51,573,925
|-
|''[[Avatar (film)|Avatar]]''
|2009
|PG-13
|The highest-grossing feature in history, directed by liberal James Cameron, enforces many destructive messages, including [[environmentalism]], [[feminism]], and the absurd claim that nature is God. It also ridicules the military and large businesses. To make matters worse, the protagonist forms a rather creepy romance with the native princess, who is of another species, perhaps a symbol for bestiality. The overall plotline hints at endorsing environmental terrorism, which Cameron indicated that he himself supported.
|$760,507,625
|-
|''Bad Santa''
|2003
|R
|Lots of coarse language, sexual escapades, drunkenness, and also the main plot involved a con man posing as a Mall Santa so he and his dwarf accomplice can rob the mall's safe. It was bad enough that critics panned Disney for allowing the trashing of a cultural icon like Santa Claus as well as even then-Disney CEO, Michael Eisner, to be disgusted with the resulting film, acting as one of the main reasons for Miramax being cut loose from Disney alongside ''Kill Bill''.
|$60 million
|-
|''Bad Santa 2''
|2016
|R
|This sequel follows the already revolting ''Bad Santa''. Miramax, which distributed this movie as well as its predecessor, was acquired in 2016 by beIN Media Group, which is owned by Islamic propaganda channel [[Al Jazeera]].
|$23.2 million
|-
|''Bad Teacher''
| 2011
|R
|Cameron Diaz stars as an awful high school teacher, who is always getting high and drunk, tries to get breast-implant surgery, and encourages cheating and stealing from her students. The movie contains no [[morals]] and is filled with offensive sexual content.
| $100,292,856
|-
|''Beginners''
|2011
|R
|Promotes homosexuality and "[[coming out of the closet]]".
|$5,790,894
|-
|''Being John Malkovich''
|1999
|R
|This biopic celebrates homosexuality and includes a large amount of vulgar humor.
|$637,721
|-
|''Ben & Arthur''
|2002
|
|As the title suggests, this is a pro-homosexual propaganda movie which also portrays Christians as "hateful bigots". The film has the reputation of being one of the most hated homosexual movies by critics and audiences alike, even among homosexuals. Wikipedia also acknowledges this, as this movie is on the page "List of movies considered the worst". Was a major box-office bomb.
|$40,000
|-
|''[[The Big Lebowski]]''
|1998
|R
|Glorifies [[drug abuse]], laziness, and [[nihilism]].
|$17,451,873
|-
|''Billy Elliot''
|2000
|R
|This British film stars a boy who represents the homosexual agenda by wanting to be a ballet dancer rather than play sports. There are very poor family values as the family is constantly cursing at one another.
|$21,995,263
|-
|''Bio-Dome''
|1996
|PG-13
|It's a stoner film with an environmentalist theme.
|$13,427,615
|-
|''The Birdcage''
|1996
|R
|Yet another pro-[[homosexual agenda]] and conservative bashing film.
|$124,060,553
|-
|''Blow''
|2001
|R
|Glorifies the life of drug dealer, and suspected murderer, George Jung.
|$52,990,775
|-
|''Blue is the Warmest Color''
|2013
|NC-17
|This French film supports the [[homosexual agenda]] by graphically showing lesbian sex and falsely idealizing the concept that homosexuals can be sound mentors to young children. At the Cannes Film Festival, which was headed by liberal [[Steven Spielberg]] and had a board that included ''[[Brokeback Mountain]]'' director, Ang Lee, it was unanimously awarded the top prize. t is widely believed that this victory was due to France's legalization of [[same-sex marriage|same-sex "marriage"]] eight days prior. At least one of the stars of the film admitted that she felt disgusted by her role in it.
|$2,199,787
|-
|Boat Trip
|2002
|R
|This film about two men who accidentally aboard a gay cruise shamelessly promotes the homosexual agenda and presents the attempted sexual assault of a man by a woman as "humorous".
|$15,020,293<ref>https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=boattrip.htm</ref>
|-
|''Boogie Nights''
|1997
|R
|A young man journeys through the pornography industry in the 1970s and 1980s and glorifies the exploitation of women.
|$26,400,640
|-
|''Boyhood''
|2014
|R
|Centered on a family raised by a single mother, it downplays the importance a father has on a child's growth and development, mocks conservative Christians, and promotes underage drinking and pot smoking.
|$44,400,000
|-
|''Boys Don't Cry''
|1999
|R
|It glorifies the choice of a young girl to embrace homosexual and transgender life choices, dishonesty, and pre-marital relations. Furthermore, it caricatures and exaggerates natural reactions to her perversion, all in aid of promoting the [[homosexual agenda]].
|$11,533,945
|-
|''[[The Breakfast Club]]''
|1985
|R
|What masquerades as a drama comparing the similar personalities of five seemingly very different teenagers in school detention really promotes the use of drugs, smoking, and extramarital sex. Although it does contain the conservative quote "You ought to spend a little more time trying to make something of yourself and a little less time trying to impress people", it is said by the main villain of the movie, the high school principal.
|$51,525,171
|-
|''[[Brokeback Mountain]]''
|2005
|R
|This nauseating "romance" film proves that [[liberals]] will [[shoehorning|shoehorn]] the homosexual agenda into anything, even Westerns. It was also an early example of production companies dictating film distribution services of what they should distribute to the local level, often against the distributor's own decisions.
|$83,043,761
|-
|''The Brothers Grimsby''
|2016
|R
|This vulgar film is loaded with sex jokes, sex scenes, nudity, one graphic elephant sex scene, and a joke about Donald Trump getting AIDS.
|$6,874,837
|-
|''But I'm a Cheerleader''
|1999
|R
|A lesbian [[public school]] [[cheerleading|cheerleader]] is attracted to other cheerleaders, portraying [[homosexuality]] as a legitimate lifestyle. The film attacks and ridicules [[reparative therapy]] and religious people, and it normalizes lesbians by depicting the star as a girly cheerleader, obviously a forced subversion of the lesbian archetype.
|$2,205,627
|-
|''Call Me By Your Name''
|2017
|R
|The ''[[Brokeback Mountain]]'' of 2017, only this time pedophilia, in addition to homosexuality, is endorsed and displayed as "normal" and "intellectual".
|
|-
|''Caligula''
|1979
|UR (should be NC-17)
|This historical drama about infamous Roman emperor of the same name has been considered the most pornographic movie ever made, which led to it being a critical failure. It has unsimulated scenes of oral and anal sex, incest, and close-ups of the genitalia of both sexes, along with brutal violence. Upon release, several U.S. cities tried to prevent the movie from being played, though liberal courts repeatedly affirmed that it passed the Miller test (claiming that it was not obscene enough to be banned). Some lawyers defending it even lamented that it helped to form a conservative morality, which may have helped Ronald Reagan win the 1980 election.
|$23 million
|-
|''The Cat in the Hat''
|2003
|PG (Should be PG-13)
|This bastardization of an instantly recognizable children's classic, filled with adult humor and pandered to focus groups, is the reason why Dr. Seuss's widow has banned any live-action adaptations of Seuss's works. It won a one-time Golden Raspberry (or "Razzie") Award for "Worst Excuse for an Actual Movie (All Concept/No Content)" and was nominated for eight other Razzies.
|$134 million
|-
|''The Cider House Rules''
|1999
|PG-13
|Glorifies [[abortion]] and advocates [[pro-choice]] values to a fault.
|$57,545,092
|-
|''Chappie''
|2015
|PG-13
|Another "social" science fiction film that just abuses our [[First Amendment|first amendment right]] to bash capitalism. Neill Blomkamp also directed liberal films District 9 and Elysium too. On an optimistic note, the film got bad reviews (even from liberal critics)<ref>https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chappie/</ref> and the film did poorly in America (70% of its gross came from overseas).<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chappie.htm</ref>
|$31,569,268
|-
|''[[Clerks]]''
|1994
|R
|Filled with constant vulgar [[profanity]]. Previously rated NC-17 before being appealed for an R rating.
|$3,151,130
|-
|''Clerks 2''
|2006
|R
|Sequel to the liberal comedy, filled with more profanity and even more disgusting acts that could not be in the budget of the original film.
|$24,148,068
|-
|''[[The Cosmic Slop]]''
|1994
|NR
|HBO trilogy focusing on minority science fiction. The main claim to fame was an adaptation of ''[[The Space Traders]]'', a race-baiting short story that was written by the infamous race-baiting leftist professor Derrick Bell.
|
|-
|''Dallas Buyers Club''
|2013
|R
|Egregiously supports the homosexual agenda during its deadly-years [[AIDS]] epidemic..
|$27,298,285
|-
|''The Danish Girl''
|2015
|R
|One of the definitive pro-homosexual/gender confusion propaganda films. Eddie Redmayne portrays Einar Wegener, a landscape artist who stands in for a female model who no-showed for a planned painting made by Wegener's wife, Gerda. Einar, who has undergone gender confusion for years, snaps as a result of the modeling sessions where he stands in as "female" and he begins claiming to be a "woman" calling himself "Lili Elbe", which nearly leads to him being committed to an asylum. Einar later undergoes surgical mutilation to accommodate his delusion, but he dies of infection due to the mutilation.
|$11,114,018
|-
|''The Day After''
|1983
|Not Rated
|Attacks the military and conservative politicians, and encourages negotiation with Communists.
|NA - TV
|-
|''The Day After Tomorrow''
|2004
|PG-13
|Overdramatic, nonsensical portrayal of the consequences of fictional "[[climate change]]".
|$186,740,799
|-
|''Day of the Animals''
|1977
|PG
|Environmentalist propaganda that states "global warming" turns woodland animals into psychotic human-hunters. It also claims that humans must get what they deserve (which they do not).
|$2 million
|-
|''Dazed and Confused''
|1993
|R
|This coming of age film circa 1976, attempts to normalize [[promiscuity]] and [[drug abuse]] among teenagers and young adults.
|$7,993,039
|-
|''District 9''
|2009
|R
|Alien invaders are shown sympathetically, but the military, corporations, and humans in general are not.
|$115,646,235
|-
|''Django Unchained
|2012
|R
|Quentin Tarantino's Western gratuitously uses graphic violence and the n-word.
|$425,368,238
|-
|''Don’t Breathe''
|2016
|R
|The movie's protagonists are three burglars who break into homes (secured by one of their father’s security company) to steal items to sell. The "villain" of the movie is a blind army veteran, and the homeowner of the house they are breaking into. Although they do find he has kidnapped the girl who killed his daughter in a car accident. Also the leader of the thieves is a girl, which is clearly a sign of feminism.
|$89,217,875
|-
|''Doom''
|2005
|R
|Based on the video game that influenced the [[Columbine High School massacre|Columbine High School massacre]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20060223025846/columbine.free2host.net/quotes.html</ref>, ll the military characters (except one) are corrupt. Fans of the game criticized it for not including much monster-themed action.
|$28,212,337
|-
|''Drag Me to Hell''
|2009
|R
|Despite being made by known Republican<ref>http://whatculture.com/offbeat/10-celebs-you-wouldnt-expect-to-be-republicans?page=4</ref> Sam Raimi, the film's premise dealt with a woman being condemned simply for doing what her job required her to do at the bank, with Raimi also implicitly stating that the gypsy who cursed her had sympathetic reasons for cursing the main protagonist despite the fact that she herself had explicitly foresaked paying mortgage three times. In addition, the means to counteract the Lamia (the creature responsible for sending people to Hell when cursed) were more explicitly Pagan than Christian.
|$90.8 million
|-
|''Easy Rider''
|1969
|R
|Glorifies every aspect of the hippie lifestyle, and is also Anti-American. Portrays conservatives as "bigoted" rednecks.
|$60 million
|-
|''Elysium''
|2013
|R
|This propaganda piece criticizes big business and supports [[illegal immigration]].
|$93,050,117
|-
|''Fantastic Four''
|2015
|PG-13
|Based very loosely on the comics of the same name and deprived of the source material's humor, the film portrays the military in a negative manner. Here, they only want to use superpowered teens as weapons. On top of that, they also changed the race of the Human Torch for political correctness/cultural Marxism reasons. The film was also infamous for its controversial behind-the-scenes history. The studio executives mandated reshoots without the director's knowledge of this and the final cut was gutted in the editing room. Director Josh Trank was so angered by this that he completely disowned the film.<ref>http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/josh-trank-disowns-fantastic-four-via-twitter-claims-studio-interference-322</ref>
|$56,117,548
|-
|''Fast Food Nation''
|2006
|R
|Despite its title and that fact that Bruce Willis is in it, the film is attacks fast food and capitalism while pushing environmentalism, veganism, illegal immigration, and extramarital sex.
|$1,005,539
|-
|''Fast Times at Ridgemont High''
|1982
|R
|Film glorifies [[drug abuse]], premarital sex, and [[abortion]]. It was also one of [[Sean Penn]]'s early film roles as he would go on to star in more liberal propaganda films.
|$27,092,880
|-
|''The Forest''
|2016
|PG-13
|Depicts the Aokigahara Forest in Japan as a scary place filled with vengeful ghosts. In reality, it is a sad place where people go to commit suicide.
|$37.6 million
|-
|''The Fourth Kind''
|2009
|PG-13
|Uses the real-life tragedies of deceased and missing citizens of Nome, Alaska to make money with a fictitious story about alien abductions.
|$47,709,193
|-
|''Freddy Got Fingered''
|2001
|R
|Contains a lot of crude and revolting gross-out sexual humor, including a scene where the main character actually makes a horse [censored]. Uses shock tactics in much the same way that ''[[Family Guy]]'' does. Won five Razzie awards, including Worst Picture and four awards (Worst Actor, Worst Director, Worst Screenplay and Worst Screen Couple) for star and director, Canadian "comedian" Tom Green.
|$14.3 million
|-
|''Furry Vengeance''
|2010
|PG
|This film is pro-environmentalism and anti-capitalist on steroids. The main antagonist is a wealthy businessman, and he and his workers are demonized for doing their job. One of them gets attacked by a raccoon. In the end, the main character, a real estate developer, is forced to change his job after "learning the animals' stories" and he even puts up a poster saying that anyone who violates the forest preservation will be fined at $1,000,000.00.
|$35,000,000
|-
|''Ghostbusters'' (2016 remake)
|2016
|PG-13
|This staunchly feminist remake of the conservative horror comedy classic replaces all the original male heroes with women who appear to have only vaguely different personalities, and every male character is either unintelligent or mean-spirited. Racism and sexual innuendoes are present as well.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ikR-6uSMYz</ref> Also the remake also replaces the [[EPA]] with [[United States Department of Homeland Security|Homeland Security]] as the bad guys. Luckily, no one other than the world's most biased liberal critics liked it, as its trailer was known for being the most hated of its kind on YouTube.<ref>http://screencrush.com/ghostbusters-trailer-most-disliked-movie-trailer-in-history/</ref> Sony was caught making fake reviews<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXv3w59raZ4</ref> and the film flopped at the box office <ref>https://www.imdb.com/news/ni60138331?fb_comment_id=1146766692061206_1146942958710246&comment_id=1146942958710246</ref> so tremendously that Sony Pictures Entertainment lost over $70 million.
|$120,049,002
|-
|''Glen or Glenda''
|1953
|Not rated
|Created by Ed Wood, widely regarded as one of the worst directors of all time, it celebrates cross-dressing and transsexualism.
|N/A
|-
|''Godzilla'' (1998 film)
|1998
|PG-13
|Liberal and homosexual director Roland Emmerich turns Godzilla into a girl and enforces the idea military does more damage than Godzilla. The film even fails to address the original message of the original 1954 Japanese film (the first ''Godzilla'' was created in response to fears of the aftermath of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II), with the resulting film likewise being hated by Godzilla fans and by Toho Films, to the extent that the "Godzilla" in this film when later appearing in the mainline films was given a separate identity to the mainstream Godzilla and beaten easily. Liberals also panned the film, in particular a running gag which had the Mayor of New York doing a "thumbs up and thumbs down" vote in an unsubtle jab at Siskel and Ebert.
|$136,314,294
|-
|''[[Good Will Hunting]]''
|1997
|R
|Left-wing actors/writers [[Matt Damon]] and [[Ben Affleck]] created this coming of age film that is the main reason why [[Howard Zinn]]'s anti-American revisionist textbook ''A People's History of the United States'' became both public knowledge and provided in all universities and high schools across America. Matt Damon's character, Will Hunting, tells [[Robin William]]'s character in a pivotal scene, "You wanna read a ''real'' history book? Read Howard Zinn’s ''People’s History of the United States''. That book’ll f*****’ knock you on your a**.”<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/5/</ref>
|$225,933,435
|-
|''Gringo''
|2018
|R
|Not only is the title of this movie a racial slur against white people, but this movie also egregiously promotes pot smoking. In addition, the main male character is extremely feminine, which suits Hollywood's stance on the traditional gender roles. This movie didn't even make the Top 10 its opening weekend, despite heavy marketing.
|
|-
|''Hair''
|1979
|PG (Should be R)
|Based on the Broadway musical, the film's profanity, its depiction of the use of illegal drugs, its treatment of sexuality, its irreverence for the American flag, and its gratuitous nudity caused much comment and controversy as it did when the stage musical first premiered in 1967. A product of the hippie counterculture and sexual revolution of the 1960s, several of its songs became anthems of the anti-Vietnam War peace movement.
|$15,284,643
|-
|''Hairspray''
|2007
|PG
|Poor [[moral]]s shown, encourages homosexual agenda, bad behavior, such as smoking, drinking, cursing. Many sexual comments are shown. It portrays conservatives and those with high expectations in a negative viewpoint.
|$118,871,849
|-
|''Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle''
|2004
|R
|The adventures of two pot-smokers who play up ethnic stereotypes.
|$18,250,550
|-
|''Horrible Bosses''
|2011
|R
|Three men try to kill their bosses. Two of the three bosses are wealthy businessmen. The film is also filled with offensive language and many sexual references. Was followed by a sequel that however supported the American Dream and capitalism.
|$117,538,559
|-
|''The Hottie and the Nottie''
|2008
|PG-13 (should be R)
|Ultra-liberal actress [[Paris Hilton]] stars in this movie that glorifies every aspect of the "bimbo", "dumb blonde" and "valley girl" lifestyles (all of which Hilton herself has embraced over time as part of her public persona) and contains demeaning depictions against those with dark hair and dark eyes, calling them "unattractive".
|$27,696
|-
|''Howl''
|2010
|R
|Film about homosexual poet and [[beatnik]]-turned-[[hippie]], [[Allen Ginsberg]]. Promotes the [[homosexual agenda]] and the idea that writing about [[pornography]] is "protected" under the [[First Amendment]] and has "literary value".
|$617,334
|-
|''I Love You Phillip Morris''
|2010
|R
|A homosexuality-themed comedy-drama film about a homosexual inmate who escapes to reunite with his lover.
|$2,037,459
|-
|''[[Jackass]]: The Movie''
|2002
|R
|Essentially a montage of ridiculous stunts and pranks with no coherent story.
|$64,255,312
|-
|''Jennifer's Body''
|2009
|R
|This film starring Megan Fox promotes feminism and glorifies [[Satanism]], and contains a lesbian kiss and them making out.
|$16,204,793.
|-
|''Kids''
|1995
|NC-17
|Pornographic film concerning five rebellious underage teenagers in [[New York City]] engaging in graphic sex, violent acts, [[drug]]/[[alcohol]] use, and spreading [[HIV]].
|$7,412,216
|-
|''The Kids Are All Right''
|2010
|R
|Portrays homosexuality and homosexual parenting as a "normal" lifestyle.
|$20,811,365
|-
|''[[The Laramie Project]]''
|2002
|Unrated
|An adaptation of the play of the same name made by HBO to promote the homosexual agenda, including giving a one-sided, extremely biased perspective on the murder of Matthew Shepherd implying that his murderers had "homophobia" as a motive. It also has a significant anti-religious bent in it, where two of the documentarists (implied to be homosexual) tried to talk to a priest specifically to "piss him off," and also had one of the members breaking down from a priest being "hateful" simply because he implied the possibility that Matthew Shepherd will go to hell if he didn't repent for his homosexual activities.
|
|-
|''Legally Blonde''
|2001
|PG-13
|A pro-feminist musical that also promotes every aspect of the "valley girl" lifestyle. Smart people (such as those who go to law school) are described as "boring, ugly, serious people" by the father of Elle Woods (the film's protagonist). It also contains hidden demeaning remarks about dark-haired people. Spawned a sequel that, despite the patriotic-sounding title ("Red, White, and Blonde"), ultimately wasn't much better, which included a homosexual joke involving Elle Woods' pet chihuahua (despite the original film implying that said dog, who was male, was infatuated by the Taco Bell chihuahua mascot, a female).
|$96,520,674
|-
|''The Lost World: Jurassic Park''
|1997
|PG-13
|The film is pro-environmentalist, and features John Hammond, the original head of Jurassic Park, hiring environmentalist hippies to sabotage his own company in the name of releasing the dinosaurs back into the wild, with the protagonists being depicted as being in the right despite causing explicit destruction and death via their actions, as well as demonizing the corporation for trying to stop them. Also has an anti-hunting message due to one of the main antagonists explicitly being a hunter. It is to be noted that such a message not only was not present in the book it was adapted from, but it if anything was the complete antithesis to the anti-cloning message from both the original book by Michael Crichton and the 1993 film that adapted it and that ''Lost World'' acted as a sequel to.
|$618.6 million
|-
|''Léon: The Professional''
|1994
|R
|Disgusting film the features an assassin taking an orphan under his wing (even worse her family shows poor values and are nasty to each other). He then trains her to be an assassin herself to kill the corrupt DEA responsible for her parents murder, but also the assassin who's much older than her seems to be [[Pedophilia|romanticized by her]] (in a deleted scene they even have sex).
|$19,501,238
|-
|''Lethal Weapon 3''
|1992
|R
|Pro-gun control propaganda disguised as a buddy cop action film.
|$144,731,527
|-
|''Lethal Weapon 4''
|1998
|R
|The sequel now has a pro-illegal immigration message.
|$130,444,603
|-
|''Mad Max: Fury Road''
|2015
|R
|Feminist propaganda that endorses and celebrates anarchy. Also, it bears some "[[Plagiarism|similarities]]" to the John Wayne classic ''Stagecoach''. Fourth movie in the ''Mad Max'' film series first made famous by Mel Gibson in the title role between 1979 and 1985.
|$153,636,354
|-
|''Maleficent''
|2014
|PG
|Apparently represents the idea of revising the "Sleeping Beauty" story to focus on a lesbian relationship; although Aurora clearly loves Maleficent as a mother figure, Maleficent takes over the role of the prince and is revealed to be the person whose kiss of "true love" (given on the forehead) really saved Aurora. Unabashedly promotes the feminist agenda to the extent that most of the males are either villains or useless, even going so far as to heavily hint at a transgender philosophy; promotes hard-core environmentalism, moral relativism and even Marxism; pretty much ruins the morality tale for ''Sleeping Beauty''. ''The Federalist'' also had a field day with the film stating how it promoted the leftist agenda and citing point by point its agenda.<ref>https://thefederalist.com/2014/06/06/maleficent-once-upon-a-screed/</ref> In particular, King Stefan, far from being depicted as a good father who gave up Aurora to the three fairies to protect her from the curse, was shown to not care for Aurora at all and was willing to let her die from the curse.
|$241,410,378
|-
|''Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil''
|1997
|R
|Don't be fooled by the fact that Hollywood conservative, Clint Eastwood directed this film or that it both takes place and was filmed in the overall conservative city of Savannah, Georgia. It is based on the equally bad nonfiction novel of the same name, and has LGBT, environmentalist, witchcraft, and anti-capitalist themes.
|$25,105,255
|-
|''Moonlight''
|2016
|R
|A coming-of-age film that glorifies drug use and [[homosexuality]].
|$27,557,396 <ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=moonlight2016.htm</ref>
|-
|''Movie 43''
|2013
|R
|Anthology of short "comedy" films which glamorize virtually every form of deviant sexuality imaginable. Much of the "humor" is scatological, including a scene with a character who enjoys being defecated upon. Aside from that, ''Movie 43'' is literally one of the worst motion pictures ever made in history, as it has nothing that would make it good, imaginative, funny, charming, or understandable of its existence at all. Won three Razzie awards: Worst Picture, Worst Director (all directors) and Worst Screenplay (all screenwriters).
|$32.4 million
|-
|''Mulholland Drive''
|2001
|R
|The makers of this nonsensical art film think homosexuality and fornication in general are "sexy" societal norms.
|$7,220,243
|-
|''My Own Private Idaho''
|1991
|R
|Two homosexual street hustlers begin having an affair while seeking adventure en route to Idaho and then Italy. One of the more infamous cinematic examples of the homosexual agenda.
|$6,401,336
|-
|''Natural Born Killers''
|1994
|R
|Riddled with violence, drug abuse and sexual references, this movie's main characters are brutal serial killers who are viewed as "heroes". Infamously known for influencing Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold for committing the massacre at [[Columbine High School massacre]]<ref>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-columbine-shooters/</ref>
|$50,282,766
|-
|''The Normal Heart''
|2014
|TV MA
|Another [[homosexual agenda|homosexual propaganda]] film that criticizes the [[Reagan Administration]] and general Conservative ideology. The LGBT community was a strong promoter of this film and insists it is "artful", when really it is decadent.
|N/A
|-
|''Nymphomaniac''
|2014
|NR
|This two-part movie features four hours of non-stop sex and glamorizes the lifestyle of the titular sex addict. It portrays other [[San Francisco values]], such as homosexuality and S&M, in a positive light. In general, this film was labeled as NSFW. Director, Lars von Trier, is known for being anti-American and slightly hints at this throughout the film.
|$17,584,083
|-
|''The Odd Life of Timothy Green''
|2012
|PG
|Despite an overly schmaltzy pro-family sentiment, this film showcases terrible parenting.
|$55.3 million

|-
|''The Organizer''
|1963
|Not Rated
|This Italian film supports [[trade union]]s and [[infidelity]].
|
|-
|''Orgazmo''
|1997
|NC-17
|This pornographic nightmare celebrates the porn industry and criticizes [[Mormon]]s, if not all the world's religiously devout.
|$602,302
|-
|''Paul''
|2011
|R
|This extraterrestrial rescue mission could have been a harmless comedic tribute to the science fiction film genre if it didn't portray Christians and the military as close-minded idiots while depicting atheists (played by godless writers and co-stars Simon Pegg and Nick Frost) who support extramarital sex, homosexuality, and mind-altering drug use as the only "sensible" people. Pegg and Frost have explicitly stated that one of the movie's main messages is that "there is no God" and anyone who believes in Him is "an ignorant boob".
|$37,412,945
|-
|''The Perks of Being a Wallflower''
|2012
|PG-13
|Promotes homosexuality and also demonizes those opposed to a homosexual lifestyle.
|$17,738,570
|-
|''The People vs. Larry Flynt''
|1996
|R
|Idealizes [[pornography]] mogul [[Larry Flynt]] and claims that pornography is "protected" by the [[First Amendment]].
|$20,300,385
|-
|''Philadelphia''
|1993
|PG-13
|Homosexual agenda setting drama.
|$77,446,440
|-
|''Pineapple Express''
|2008
|R
|Shows [[drug abuse]] to be "cool".
|$87,341,380
|-
|''Pink Flamingos''
|1972
|NC-17
|Embraces horrifying people, who engage in such acts as [[incest]] and [[bestiality]], as well as promoting the homosexual agenda, since it stars transvestite Divine and shows homosexuals in a positive light. This film has toilet humor, finding it funny when a character (Divine) literally eats poo, and extremely offensive language, one character is even named after a racial slur against white people. Characters promote anarchy and violence as an everyday thing. A very graphic film, even for most liberals, showing close-ups of genitalia unlike any non-porno film. Liberals call it a "comedy", but it is revoltingly horrid and more like an act of [[Satan]].
|$7,000,000
|-
|''Project X''
|2012
|R
|Shows teen drinking, [[drug]] use, sex, vulgar profanity and anarchic behavior to be "cool".
|$54,731,865
|-
|''The Quick and the Dead''
|1995
|R
|A feminist western.
|$18,636,537
|-
|''Quills''
|2000
|R
|Portrays the Marquis de Sade as the protagonist, in addition to the prevalence of extremely violent acts.
|$11,732,088
|-
|''Resident Evil'' franchise
|2002-2017
|R
|Feminist film franchise with anti-capitalistic messages. Based on a video game franchise on the same name. The worst offender is ''Resident Evil: The Final Chapter'', where the villain is a [[Christian]] who releases a deadly virus (called the T-virus) which will destroy the human race and have him and rich colleagues rebuild the world in their image (a.k.a playing [[God]]).
|$244,443,938 (all together)
|-
|''Rise of the Planet of the Apes''
|2011
|PG-13
|Anti-business (the company the main character works for is painted in an extremely negative light), a lot of environmentalism throughout (including a more anti-human agenda being pushed), and the actor who played Caesar, Andy Serkis, as well as director Rupert Wyatt, both compared Caesar positively to the Marxist Argentinian revolutionary terrorist and mass murderer [[Che Guevara]].
|$481,801,049
|-
|''Rent''
|2005
|PG-13
|Promotes [[homosexuality]] and cross-dressing as "normal" lifestyles.
|$29,077,547
|-
|''Rock of Ages''
|2012
|PG-13 (Director's Cut is rated R)
|Based on the highly unoriginal and unimaginative Broadway musical, ''Rock of Ages'' features poor [[moral]]s, promotes homosexual agenda, prostitution, drug use, and drinking, and portrays conservatives in a negative, offensively bigoted viewpoint. Many gratuitous sex scenes and sexual references are prominently shown.
|$38,518,613
|-
|''Salo: Or the 120 Days of Sodom''
|1975
|NR
|Adaptation of the [[sadist]] and [[Libertine]] and atheistic text by [[Marquis de Sade]] from Communist homosexual filmmaker Pier Paolo Pasolini, who was killed shortly after completing this movie.
|
|-
|''Sex and the City''
|2008
|R
|Very disturbing film, much like its TV series counterpart, promoting the use of sex everywhere.
|$152,647,258.
|-
|''Sex Tape''
|2014
|R
|Anti-family. The main premise of the film was two nymphomaniacs trying to create a sex tape of themselves after getting kids killed their sex drive, and then recovering iPods that accidentally uploaded their tape online for everyone to see. The ending also has brief yet graphic sex scene showing what exactly was on the sex tape.
|$38,543,473
|-
|''Shakespeare in Love''
|1998
|R
|Liberals changing history in order to suit feminists. The film also suggests that a woman was responsible for William Shakespeare's work (even though there's no record of this at all). Although it won the Academy Award for Best Picture of 1998 (thanks to the aggressive campaign tactics of the egotistical producer Harvey Weinstein), the film has aged poorly and, to this day, the overwhelming majority of critics and film viewers believe that the conservative film and Steven Spielberg's masterpiece ''Saving Private Ryan'' should have won instead.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SrNphaLsDs</ref>
|$100,317,794 
|-
|''The Shape of Water''
|2017
|R
|Disgusting pro-Bestiality and Feminist movie directed by Marxist film director Guillermo del Toro. Also encourages homosexuality and has hints of promoting illegal immigration.
|$54,185,844
|-
|''She Hate Me''
|2004
|R
|Taking jabs at capitalism and supporting the [[homosexual agenda]], this film has a very over the top plot were a man who's laid off from his job for exposing corrupt business practices, turns to impregnating wealthy lesbians for profit. (This really is the plot).
|$366,037
|-
|''Small Soldiers''
|1998
|PG-13
|Anti-military (due to the Commando Elite being depicted in a negative manner, and to a certain extent GloboTech, the ones responsible for the bad events in the film, being stated to be a Defense Contractor) and also anti-Capitalist (due to GloboTech being the ones responsible for the events of the film, including buying out the Heartland Toy Company.).
|$71.1 million
|-
|''The Social Network''
|2010
|PG-13
|Glorifies the [[gossip]] website [[Facebook]], which feeds [[narcissism]] and destroys marriages. The film also portrays drug use and [[misogyny]] in a positive light.
|$96,962,694
|-
|''Spring Breakers''
|2012
|R
|From the creator of ''Kids'', this film is similar in its pornographic nature and glamorization of drug abuse, only this film takes it to a new extreme. Furthermore, this film promotes [[feminism]] and glamorizes the gangster/[[ghetto]] [[rap music]] lifestyle, while condemning Christians, labeling them as "weak" and "insecure". Also, the film contains a full-on sex scene in the pool, and show nudity, in not only that scene but several others.
|$31,724,284
|-
|''Star Trek Beyond''
|2016
|PG-13
|The film has [[Sulu|Hikaru Sulu]] as a "married" homosexual with an adopted daughter, which was a decision that even [[George Takei]] (Sulu's original actor and a prominent homosexual activist) took issue with.<ref>http://time.com/4398071/george-takei-simon-pegg-sulu-gay-star-trek-beyond/</ref>
|$343.5 million
|-
|''The Stepford Wives''
|1975
|R
|[[Feminist]] [[polemic]]. Ends with the protagonist beating her husband with an iron fireplace poker. The film's release coincided with the height of the [[ERA]] movement.
|$4 million
|-
|''Stonewall''
|2015
|R
|Based on the 1969 Stonewall Riots, this film is a pro-homosexual film that pushes the homosexual agenda. It's rather ironic to note that the film, itself, is a victim of historical revisionism, offensive racial stereotypes, and exclusion of the representation of minorities. While the filmmakers tried to defend their artistic decisions, the film was overwhelmingly criticized by critics and audiences (even liberals, not surprisingly, hated the film) and failed to make its play for awards consideration during the 2015 Oscar season.
|$187,674
|-
|''Straight Outta Compton''
|2015
|R
|Glorifies the gangster lifestyle and gangster rap, and portrays the police as racist, along with other anti-police aspects.
|$161,197,785
|-
|''Superbad''
|2007
|R
|Promotes the teenage use of drugs, smoking, alcohol and sex. The whole point of the movie is for a couple of guys to lose their virginity. The movie contains many uses of profanity, underage drinking, and drug use.
|$121,463,226
|-
|''Taking Woodstock''
|2009
|R
|Glorifies the anarchistic and chaotic Woodstock festival in 1969 as well as the Hippie Movement, painting their various lewd actions, including homosexuality, in a positive light. Also has some elements of anti-Semitism due to the main character's parents who acted as Holocaust survivors being portrayed in an unsympathetic light.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2009/08/28/taking-woodstock-mythologizing-the-worst-generation/</ref>
|$10 million
|-
|''Tammy''
|2014
|R
|Movie about a lazy unemployed woman who after losing her job, basically turns to a life of crime. As the film is about her and her grandma hitting the road, committing robberies, doing illegal prescription drugs, and buying beers for teenagers. They have a Fourth of July party with no typical festivities, and is more like a drunken sex party, as the grandma reveals her breasts to the guest (the audience does not see them though).
|$84,525,432
|-
|''Tank Girl''
|1995
|R
|Based on the left-wing comic, this film glorifies feminism and debauchery while making the capitalists the bad guys.
|$4,064,495
|-
|''That's My Boy''
|2012
|R (originally NC-17)
|Depicts pedophilia, statutory rape, gerontophilia, child neglect, incest, and other forms of aberrant sexuality as "funny".
|$57.7 million
|-
|''There's Something About Mary''
|1998
|R
|Contains gratuitous sex and jokes about bodily functions.
|$176,484,651
|-
|''To Find a Man''
|1972
|
|Pretty much a 90-minute abortion propaganda film.
|
|-
|''Trash H*****s''
|2010
|NR
|Shows decadent behavior in a positive light and glamorizes sexual deviancy. Also the film is riddled with profanity, even the title has a naughty word (which was censored here).
|
|-
|''Uncle Sam''
|1996
|R
|Depicts the heroes as a jaded amputated war veteran and a draft dodger, and the main villain as an extremely sociopathic soldier who joined the Army to kill as many people as he wanted, and the latter is depicted as being hyper-patriotic.
|$2,000,000
|-
|''Under the Same Moon (La Misma Luna)''
|2007
|PG-13
|Baselessly supports illegal immigration despite a pro-family sentiment.
|$23,311,391
|-
|''Up In Smoke''
|1978
|R
|Stoner film that just promotes the use of smoking marijuana.
|$44,364,244
|-
|''Waterworld''
|1995
|PG-13
|Suggests that "[[global warming]]" was real, and the Earth has now become a flooded post-apocalyptic wasteland.
|$88,246,220
|-
|''The Wolf of Wall Street''
|2013
|R
|Blatantly promotes excessive, endless drug use, portraying it in a positive light, and claiming that illegal drugs such as heroin give people the will to keep working hard and stay focused and positive, as well as various forms of graphic and illicit sexual activity and voyeurism, (both heterosexual and in one scene, homosexual) and non-stop use of the f-word and hundreds of other profanities throughout. Portrays capitalists on [[Wall Street]] as greedy self-absorbed criminals obsessed with sex, drugs and violence in the form of the protagonist Jordan Belfort. Many audiences were shocked that this did not receive an NC-17 rating upon its release, especially since morality-deprived director [[Martin Scorsese]] broke the ''[[South Park]]'' movie's record for most uses of the F-word with his film. Christina McDowell, the daughter of Tom Prousalis, one of the people involved in Belfort's crimes, wrote a memoir on the subject specifically to call out Scorsese and DiCaprio for failing to recognize the victims of Belfort in the film, something even the most praiseworthy critics of the film admitted was a flaw.
|$116,900,694
|-
|''A Wrinkle in Time''
|2018
|PG
|A live action adaptation of the book of the same name by Disney, the film managed to completely cut out many references to Jesus Christ and biblical verses, as well as completely altered the joyous singing to remove any reference to God.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/faith/disneys-wrinkle-time-erases-books-bible-quotes-cuts-jesus-christian-figures-history/</ref> Needless to say, it opened to a box office bomb.<ref>https://movieweb.com/a-wrinkle-in-time-movie-review-2018/</ref>
|$132.6 million
|-
|''W.R.: Mystery of the Organism''
|1971
|NR
|Essentially a plotless film riddled with disgusting orgies.
|
|-
|''X-Men'' trilogy
|2000-2018
|PG-13 (R for Deadpool & Deadpool 2)
|Unlike the comics they're based on (which were about civil rights)<ref>https://www.nuskool.com/learn/lesson/mlk-and-malcolm-x-the-civil-rights-movement-and-the-x-men-origins/</ref> liberals used this movie franchise to further the [[homosexual agenda]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T543J2L-gXU</ref><ref>http://www.cracked.com/article_20497_5-great-movies-with-mind-blowing-symbolism-you-didnt-notice.html</ref> Bryan Singer director of four of the films (whom is also homosexual) was also cited for sexual assault of a minor.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/business/media/in-lawsuit-director-of-new-x-men-film-is-accused-of-sexual-assault.html?rref=homepage&_r=0</ref> And the sexual abuse has continued to this day especially with the various similar scandals that came out in Hollywood starting with Harvey Weinstein.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/11/08/usc-taking-student-petition-remove-bryan-singers-name-cinema-school-seriously/</ref> Likewise, it was noted that Singer during filming for the first movie did not allow for the comics to be on the set, despite the film being based on them.<ref>http://fourcolormedmon.blogspot.com/2017/11/3-filmmakers-working-on-comics-projects.html</ref> It was also anti-Military, especially in the second film and to some extent X-Men Origins: Wolverine, as the main villain, William Stryker, was the head of a para-military group and depicted as very genocidal against mutants, and was also implied to be a Vietnam War veteran. This had been added in by screenwriter David Hayter, due to his experiences with the ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' series.
|$1,817,894,919 (all together)
|-
|}

==Animated films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''Alpha and Omega''
|2010
|PG
|This animated film about wolves promotes disorderly conduct based on the zany antics of an omega wolf named Humphrey. It can be seen as pro-environmentalist as well because some members of the wolf pack try to start eating berries as opposed to caribou, despite wolves being natural carnivores. Alpha wolves are painted in an elitist light for being determined and hard workers. One female wolf named Kate can be described as a modern feminist. Similarly to the other liberal film, ''Open Season'', it spawned multiple unneeded direct-to-video sequels. It is also somewhat comparable to the other liberal film called ''Barnyard: The Original Party Animals'', only in that movie's case, it had a subsequent television series called ''Back at the Barnyard'' as opposed to film sequels.
|$25,107,267
|-
|''The Ant Bully''
|2006
|PG
|This pro-Communist film's main message of the power of the individual to be more powerful than one another is a bad thing. The exterminator, apparently the main antagonist, is vilified for simply doing his job, thus giving the animation an environmentalist message.
|$28,142,535
|-
|''Astro Boy''
|2009
|PG
|Based loosely on the 1952 manga and 1963 anime, liberal producers and writers twisted the cartoon to fit their [[Communist]] agenda.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Jqlxd7ufM</ref> This strategy backfired, however, and the film was a critical failure.<ref>http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/astro-boys-abysmal-opening-and-imagis-sinking-ship-17586.html</ref>
|$19,551,067
|-
|''Barnyard: The Original Party Animals''
|2006
|PG
|Set on a barnyard where animals speak and behave like humans in the absence of real humans, this ''Lion King'' clone stars a bull who witnesses his father die after being wounded by coyotes, then gradually accepts the responsibilities that come with being the leader of his animal community. Nevertheless, ''Barnyard'' accepts disorderly conduct because the animals still party recklessly, even with a serious, dedicated bull in charge. Plus, it portrays humans as either ignorant or stupid and persecutes coyotes for being carnivores. The neurotic ferret Freddy goes to liberal lengths to avoid temptation to eat his rooster friend by becoming a [[vegetarianism|vegetarian]]. Not only that, but the bulls lack horns and have female udders, and there are brief scenes referencing alcohol and gambling.
|$116,500,000
|-
|''Battle for Terra''
|2007
|PG
|This animation has environmentalist overtones and portrays a Bible-quoting, American-esque military general as the main antagonist.
|$1,647,083
|-
|''Brave''
|2012
|PG
|One of Pixar's less memorable animations stars Merida, a feminist Medieval Scottish princess who refuses to marry, believing it will cause her to lose her life of archery and adventure, thus demonstrating poor family values throughout. Of course, because this is a feminist propaganda piece, the men in the film are oafish compared to the women, too. Egregiously, Merida was added to the Disney Princess lineup regardless of the poor morals she demonstrates throughout the film and being created by Pixar, not by Disney directly.
|$540.4 million
|-
|''Cars 2''
|2011
|G
|This Pixar sequel demonizes oil companies while aggrandizing ethanol (mentioned as Allinall). On the film's political agenda, director John Lasseter commented: "Why isn't alternative fuel more... Why isn't everybody jumping on that bandwagon? It makes so much sense: Electricity, solar, whatever. There's ethanol. There's all this stuff you could be doing. And so I thought, well, that could be really cool in that you could have big oil versus alternative fuel. That's when we kind of crafted the bad guy's story."
|$191,450,875
|-
|''Chicken Little''
|2005
|G
|This painfully unoriginal animation, which was adapted from a 1943 World War II propaganda short by conservative filmmaker Walt Disney (which was itself adapted from one of Aesop's fables), ridicules family values, especially when the title chicken's widower father, Buck "Ace" Cluck, is shown to be willing to disown his son. Later on, when the aliens proceed to attempt to invade and detonate Earth, it is simply because they thought it is a living organism that kidnapped one of their children. The film is borderline nihilistic because the townspeople are mean-spirited and frequently bully Chicken Little, and a brief gag implies that warping someone's mind against their will is acceptable. As one of the worst theatrical productions ever made by the Walt Disney Company under [[Michael Eisner]], the film's mean-spirited and deeply cynical plot line is suspected to have been done to compete with [[DreamWorks]] animated films helmed by [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]].
|$135,386,665
|-
|''Delgo''
|2008
|PG
|This pagan film has horrible scenes of violence, war, and mass murder. It performed so horribly at the box office that it was criticized for potentially traumatizing young children and was pulled from theaters after a week. It is currently the lowest-grossing computer animated film of all time.
|$694,782
|-
|''The Emoji Movie''
|2017
|PG (Should be PG-13 for multiple references to the dreaded S-word in profanity)
|Not only is this film clearly an infomercial for various smartphone applications and features thinly disguised as an unoriginal take on the "hero's journey" story archetype, but it appears to devalue human language: main teenager Alex can only win over his crush by communicating via text messages comprised exclusively of emojis, and a background teenager even says, "Words aren't cool". Openly homosexual writer and director Anthony "Tony" Leondis considers the movie a deeply personal project for him: the main character is a sentient emoji who is different from his friends with his ability to show multiple expressions, which reflects Leondis' laughable belief that he is an outcast when, in reality, Hollywood praises that sort of sinful sexuality. The film briefly glorifies [[Facebook]], the world's largest social network and a hotbed for narcissism and relationship destruction; gives minor lip service to feminism in the form of Jailbreak, a computer hacker girl emoji who refuses to be the princess emoji she was created to be; and has been unfavorably compared to ''Wreck-It Ralph'' and ''Inside Out'', two great conservative animations, plus the ambiguously conservative ''LEGO Movie''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydvQB-4bBfQ</ref> Worst of all, TJ Miller, who voices the lead emoji, once said the film is a subtle protest against [[Donald Trump]] based on allegations that Trump wants to censor Hollywood and other liberally biased media.
|$25,650,000
|-
|''FernGully: The Last Rainforest''
|1992
|G
|Environmental [[propaganda]], with an anti-industry message, is indoctrinated into children.
|$24,650,296
|-
|''Food Fight''
|2012
|PG
|Aside from being considered one of the worst computer animated films, the film vilifies capitalism and leading companies.
|N/A
|-
|''Free Birds''
|2013
|PG
|This animated film's main premise is about taking turkey off of the Thanksgiving menu.
|$55,750,480
|-
|''Gnomeo and Juliet''
|2011
|PG
|This disturbing love story contains a joke that could be interpreted as passing off bestiality (in this case, with a garden gnome, which is normally an ''inanimate object'') as funny.
|$194 million
|-
|''Happy Feet''
|2006
|PG
|This environmentalist film pushes the envelope to some extent with sexual humor and implied persecution against Christians.<ref name="6 Kids Films Filled with Green Propaganda">https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/3/22/6-kids-films-filled-with-green-propaganda/2/</ref>
|$198,000,317
|-
|''Happy Feet 2''
|2011
|PG
|Like the first ''Happy Feet'', it does not push the envelope too much as far as sexual humor goes, but it goes even further with themes of environmentalism as it pushes the global warming agenda. Staunch liberal actors Matt Damon and Brad Pitt voice two krill who are implied to be homosexual.<ref name="6 Kids Films Filled with Green Propaganda" />
|$64,006,466
|-
|''Home''
|2015
|PG
|Contains environmental, illegal immigration messages, and somewhat supports the homosexual agenda as well.
|$177,397,510
|-
|''The Hunchback of Notre Dame''
|1996
|G
|Released during liberal maniac [[Michael Eisner]]'s reign of terror at Disney, the film does everything in its power to persecute Christians. The original source material was not intended for children, yet the Disney film was marketed as such to young audiences. In some cases, the film actually manages to be even more darker than the original book by Victor Hugo: originally, Quasimodo's vicious punishment at the hands of the Parisians during the Feast of Fools ceremony was out of corporal punishment; while in the Disney film, it had been done at the whim of the Parisians just for the sake of it. To make the film even darker, a gypsy genocide plot is introduced, and Paris was also the victim of arson late into the film. This is a stark contrast to most other Disney film adaptations, which have a history of toning down the original works (as in ''The Jungle Book'', in which Disney advised the writers to ignore the book specifically because its contents were unsuitable for children). Even worse, the DVD commentary for the film boasted that they deliberately had the villain, Judge Claude Frollo, when symbolically falling to hell in "Hellfire", assuming the pose of the crucifix.<ref>DVD Commentary: "Here's some more of our ham-fisted symbolism--Frollo falls down in the shape of a crucifix!"</ref> Some mild language is present, too (namely the word "damnation" and "eternal damnation"). Worst of all, one of the male gargoyles falls in love with Djali, who is explicitly male, which means that liberals will subtly shoehorn the homosexual agenda into anything, even the gargoyles of Notre Dame. There is also a bit of forced diversity in the movie as well, as Esmerelda is altered to be a full Gypsy by birth (in the original book, she was in fact ethnically French, the daughter of a French anchoress, and had been abducted by gypsies and raised by them).
|$100,138,851
|-
|The Legend of Frosty the Snowman
|2005
|Not Rated
|This film is a bastardization of the original [[Frosty the Snowman]] special in which it retcons almost everything to push an anti-comformity message and presents youth rebellion in a positive light.
|
|-
|''The Legend of the Titanic''
|1999
|Not Rated
|This animation bastardizes a horrific, tragic historical event in the name of making a statement against the whaling industry.
|
|-
|''Mars Needs Moms''
|2011
|PG
|A 9-year-old boy named Milo defies his mother, behaves in disorderly conduct, and is somewhat nihilistic. Family values are poked fun at. It also has a brief scene poking fun at the great conservative leader, [[Ronald Reagan]].
|$39 million
|-
|''My Little Pony: The Movie''
|2017
|G
|Based on the bad [[anime]]-influenced liberal television series ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'', this unnecessary film has the same liberal messages, relating to witchcraft, feminism, socialism, and environmentalism.
|$21,885,107
|-
|''Norm of the North''
|2016
|PG
|This poorly-received animation makes an environmentalist polar bear the hero and vilifies major businesses in the form of a greedy real estate mogul in a possible jab at Donald Trump.
|$24.8 million
|-
|''The Nut Job''
|2014
|PG
|An incorrigibly self-serving exiled squirrel finds himself helping his former park creatures survive by raiding a nut store, which celebrates disorderly conduct, nonconformity, and environmentalism. One of the antagonists is a head businessman because he does not comply with environmentalism.
|$64,251,541
|-
|''The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature''
|2017
|PG
|In the sequel to ''The Nut Job'', the businessman villain returns to try to build an amusement park, again persecuted for not being an environmentalist.
|$26,989,904 (Still in Theaters)
|-
|''Open Season''
|2006
|PG
|Although conservative star Gary Sinise appears, environmentalism and hate speech against hunters runs rampant.
|$85,105,259
|-
|''Over the Hedge''
|2006
|PG
|Based upon the comic strip of the same name, animals who are struggling to steal food from trash for the winter are the heroes, while humans are painted as ignorant, uncaring towards animals (clearly an environmentalist message), and obsessed with food. Plus, a businesswoman is the main antagonist, and an exterminator is scorned for simply doing his job. In addition, one of the other main antagonists of the film (and the only animal main antagonist), Vincent the Bear, is villainized for forcing RJ the Raccoon to replace the food he had after the latter in a botched attempt to steal food that Vincent had hoarded for the winter ended up accidentally destroying the food stash, with an ad-libbed scene in the climax having Vincent admit that he got where he was by "backstabbing, betraying, and murdering" those that placed trust in him, which can be interpreted as a dig against Capitalism and the concept of private property.
|$155,019,340
|-
|''ParaNorman''
|2012
|PG
|The very ending of the film pulls a swerve and reveals that one of the characters, Mitch Downe, as being homosexual, ignoring the fact that he was not even implied to be that earlier. This decision had been made by the director Chris Butler.
|$107.1 million
|-
|''Peter Rabbit''
|2018
|G
|The movie was a complete trashing of the popular British children's book series of the same name, promoting environmentalism by having the rightful owner of the farm, Thomas MacGregor, be vilified simply for trying to farm the vegetable garden that legally belonged to him, and the various farm animals being portrayed positively in interfering with his business, with one of their plans against MacGregor even going so far as to have Peter Rabbit murder him by exploiting a food allergy that he had and it being treated in a positive manner. It was such that even the liberal website [[TV Tropes]] grudgingly acknowledged under the articles "Unintentionally Sympathetic" and "Unintentionally Unsympathetic" that Thomas was closer to being in the right than Peter and his friends were.
|$146,983,492
|-
|''Pocahontas''
|1995
|G
|This feminist story follows a highly fictionalized account of the life of [[Native American]] [[Pocahontas]] with an environmental message; and the Native American’s view against English settlers is a similar to Howard Zinn's revisionist history textbook ''A People's History of the United States'', which would entered public knowledge and provided to universities, colleges, and high schools across America two years later (see ''Good Will Hunting''). The titular character enters what is implied to be an unfaithful relationship with John Smith over fellow Native American Kokoum, and her decision is treated in a comparatively positive light; while the English settlers are vilified simply for establishing the early American colonies to find Jamestown, and John Ratcliffe in particular was demonized as having the motive of trying to establish a gold mine and being greedy, despite gold never being the motive for Ratcliffe, which could be interpreted as a dig against capitalism. Following the Best Picture nomination of ''Beauty and the Beast'' at the 64th Academy Awards and its subsequent loss in March 1992, then-studio chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg opted to produce another animated sweeping romantic epic in hopes of achieving a cinematic masterpiece status and replicating another Best Picture nomination, even if he intended to distort history and add both a love story and environmental themes. In fact, many people at Disney had high hopes for ''Pocahontas'', while deeming the concept of another film in production, ''The Lion King'' as experimental. To their surprise, ''The Lion King'' became one of the greatest animated motion pictures of all time, while ''Pocahontas'' received mixed critical reviews and below-than-expected box office receipts.
|$141,579,773
|-
|''Pokémon: Zoroark - Master of Illusions''
|2010 (Japan); 2011 (America)
|G
|The anime film's villain is a successful businessman, which is a statement against capitalism, and one of the main protagonists of the film, Karl (perhaps named for [[Karl Marx]]), is based on the radical left-wing schlockumentarian Michael Moore.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130122121711/http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/wp-content/images/1008/kuruto.jpg</ref>
|
|-
|''Princess Mononoke''
|1997
|PG-13
|Environmentalist, feminist anime film on on steroids, where the forest gods are at war with a mining colony (whom are portrayed as the "bad guys").
|$2,375,308
|-
|''Quest for Camelot''
|1998
|G
|This revisionist take on Arthurian legend throws everything that makes the source material great (Christianity, heroism, bravery, etc.) out the window for the sake of advocating feminism and wanting to be a Disney animated musical film, only to be panned by critics in the end. Even though it's suppose to a G-rated family comedy, an incest joke appears as well.<ref>https://www.imdb.com/character/ch0100869/quotes</ref>
|$22,510,798
|-
|''Sausage Party''
|2016
|R
|As the first R-rated American animated film to be released by a major film studio in the United States following 1999's ''South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut'', ''Sausage Party'' blatantly criticizes religion and deceives audiences into think that, without religion and the existence of God, everyone can enjoy the most selfish, crude, and debauched activities (e.g. humanism, homosexuality, obscenity, and non-stop sexual intercourse) without guilt or a sense of a "religious obligation". Made by Nitrogen Studios. A typical offensive and raunchy comedy film by modern Hollywood standards, directors Conrad Vernon and Greg Tiernan, producer Megan Ellison, producer/writer Evan Goldberg, and producer/writer/actor Seth Rogen (all of them fiercely liberal and some, ironically, of Jewish origin) made this film to bastardize the animation genre, as well as to push the liberal Hollywood agenda on politics and religion. Animated feature films, for the past century, have enthralled and enhanced audiences around the world, as the best ones tell timely stories that children, teenagers, and adults alike can relate to and enjoy. The makers of ''Sausage Party'' seemed to not care about any of this, as they made this untimely film strictly for adults, as they believed that there aren't and should be any animated films for adults only to enjoy. Their warped belief is made very clear by the film's criticism and parody of many other animated films (namely Disney animations) as well as the presence of regular Disney collaborator Alan Menken as the film's songwriter. Altogether, ''Sausage Party'' is painfully unfunny and has virtually no plot or philosophical merit. Upon release, only liberally biased film critics praised the film, while general audiences were repulsed by it.

On a side note, ''Sausage Party'' has attracted a great deal of criticism on two additional issues. First, the animators worked under poor, cruel conditions and were forced by the directors to work overtime without pay. Thirty-six of the 83 animators were blacklisted and went uncredited in the film, believed to be due to their complaints; comments made in anonymous interviews of some of the animators involved in the project by ''Variety'', ''The Washington Post'', and ''The Hollywood Reporter'' alleged that the comments were accurate. All the animators in the film were told outright that they would be blacklisted if they did not work overtime without pay. Second, a red-band trailer for the film was accidentally played before a showing of the Walt Disney Pictures/Pixar Animation Studios' PG-rated and family-oriented ''Finding Dory'', at a Concord, California multiplex in mid-June 2016.<ref>http://ew.com/article/2016/06/29/theater-plays-sausage-party-trailer-before-finding-dory-apologizes/</ref> The theater staff had forgotten to switch out an adult-audience trailer roll for one meant for G and PG-rated films, when adding additional screens to carry ''Finding Dory'' to meet audience demand. The incident occurred only once, and the theater apologized, while Rogen [[Twitter|tweeted]] that the story "made his day".
|$89,645,124
|-
|''The Secret World of Arrietty''
|2010
|G
|Japanese anime film is about a tiny homeless family that steals from regular people. Demonizes capitalism and promotes redistribution of wealth.
|$19,202,743
|-
|''[[Shark Tale]]''
|2004
|PG
|Promotes multiculturalism and the deuteragonist of the film is a great white shark who is a vegetarian. Besides for being pro-vegan it is also a metaphor for being homosexual.<ref>http://gaylife.about.com/od/moviestheatre/a/sharktale.htm</ref>
|$160,861,908
|-
|''South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut''
|1999
|R
|A disgusting celebration of [[obscenity]]. Also contains a sacrilegious depiction of the afterlife, with both heaven and hell portrayed as hedonistic paradises.
|$83,137,603
|-
|''Tax the Rich: An Animated Fairytale''
|2012
|N/A
|An animated film written by [[Fred Glass]], narrated by [[Ed Asner]], and made for the California Federation of Teachers. It repeated rhetoric made by the [[Occupy Wall Street]] group about taxing the rich to have "their fair share" and demonized Capitalism in various ways, including blaming it on Asian sweatshops as well as the housing bubble bursting in 2008. [[Kirsten Powers]], a member of [[The Daily Beast]], and herself no stranger to liberal politics, acknowledged alongside conservative economist for ''The Daily Caller'' Tucker Carson on the Sean Hannity show that the cartoon was simply inexcusable and disgusting, with Sean Hannity also explicitly referring to it as a "disgusting hit piece".<ref>https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sean-hannity-slams-ed-asner-398102</ref><ref>http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121206006-ca-union-class.html</ref> The film was particularly infamous for a scene where, in a segment covering the trickle-down effect, a corpulent rich man representing the 1% of wealthy Americans, after having the scales literally stacked up in his favor regarding money, upon being asked why the 1% needed so much money, he responded "Don't worry, this is good for you too, it will trickle down from us to you", with the latter statement being accompanied with a graphic of the rich man proceeding to urinate on the other ordinary people as they yell in protest. Although later versions freeze the footage just before the man pees on the crowd in response to the complaints about the scene, it was still implied by residual audio of the urine stream. Sean Hannety and Michelle Malkin of the Sean Hannety Show both expressed disgust with the video when covering it, and when one of the producers confronted Ed Asner as the latter was about to attend one of his roles at a play, the latter falsely claimed he didn't remember what he said on it, and also claimed that the bit about rich people peeing on poor people was disgusting only because it should have been in reverse, and then asked the producer if he had any money, and if so, if he should "p*** on [the producer]."<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1ZzsAzq_M</ref>
|N/A
|-
|''A Troll in Central Park''
|1994
|G
|Considered by many to be Don Bluth's worst film,
|$71,368
|-
|}

==Schlockumentaries==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''[[The 11th Hour]]''
|2007
|PG
|This environmental schlockumentary produced and narrated by actor [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] endorses the theory of [[Anthropogenic global warming]].
|$707,343
|-
|Almost any film directed by [[Michael Moore]]
|
|
|All of his "documentaries" are composed of left-wing propaganda, promoting concepts such as universal health care, socialism, anti-Capitalist views, and gun control, and if that's not enough, he blatantly skews facts to push his agenda.
|
|-
|''[[An Inconvenient Truth]]''
|2006
|PG
|[[Al Gore]]'s [[global warming]] alarmist [[schlockumentary]].
|$24,146,161
|-
|''An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power''
|2017
|PG
|Unanswered sequel to Al Gore's 2006 schlockumentary, ''An Inconvenient Truth''.
|
|-
|''Arctic Tale''
|2007
|G
|A documentary film geared towards children that pushes the false narrative of global warming and polar bears going extinct from melting ice caps.
|$1,858,064
|-
|''Better This World''
|2011
|Not Rated
|2011 documentary "feature length lie" is a [[PBS]] film regarding the thwarted domestic terrorist attack at the 2008 [[Republican National Convention]] and liberals attempt to re-write history.
|NA-TV
|-
|''Blackfish''
|2013
|PG-13
|A [[CNN]] documentary film about the captivity of Tilikum, an orca involved in the deaths of three individuals, and the consequences of keeping orcas in captivity, that is nothing but a propaganda film full of so many lies.<ref>https://seaworldcares.com/the-facts/truth-about-blackfish/</ref> The film gained high ratings on movie review websites, making it seem the film brainwashes critics.
|$2,073,582
|-
|''[[Bowling for Columbine]]''
|2002
|R
|A 2002 schlockumentary directed by and starring [[leftist]] propagandist Michael Moore. It is a pro-[[gun control]] film and distorts facts in favor of gun-grabbing. Also included a "Brief history of the USA" segment using animation mirroring that of [[South Park]], that distorted historical facts to make it seem as though guns were implemented by racists, which actually led to the South Park [[libertarian]] creators to condemn him, enough to give Moore a cameo in Team America as a suicide bomber and make his death especially graphic.
|$21,576,018
|-
|Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey
|2014
|TV-PG
|Darwinism and global warming alarmism are disguised as science.
|N/A
|-
|''Fahrenheit 11/9''
|2018
|R
| [[Donald Trump]] hit piece by none other than Michael Moore. Trump got the last laugh as it ended up flopping at the box office <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HyTh_6iyA</ref>
|-
|''The God Who Wasn't There'
|2005
|NR
|This documentary by noted skeptic [[Brian Flemming]] attempts to reinforce the massive wave of atheist propaganda from the internet.
|
|-
|''[[Jesus Camp]]''
|2006
|PG-13
|This baseless attack on conservative Christianity later incited [[liberal vandalism]] of the Bible camp shown in the film.
|$902,544
|-
|''Hearts and Minds''
|1974
|Not Rated
|A documentary about the Vietnam War that was inherently anti-American in its nature. Also, depicts [[Catholic]]s as bigots. It also had a brief clip at the beginning which had the rolling crew having one of the higher officers forced to talk to them with the false promise that they'd burn the tape once he is finished with it. It also has several moments of graphic sex between soldiers and Vietnamese prostitutes. It also implies throughout the film that several atrocities conducted by the North Vietnamese communists were done by Americans, including the footage where a girl ends up burned by [[napalm]] and running out naked. Noteworthy for being almost single-handedly responsible for forcing America out of Vietnam (even having the NVA mailing the producers thanking them for "ensuring peace" in Vietnam) as well as it being an influence for far-left schlockumentarist/propagandist Michael Moore, with some of its filming techniques even being reused for ''Farenheit 9/11''.
|Unknown
|-
|''Inside Job''
|2010
|PG-13
|Democrat donor Charles Ferguson blames the Great Recession of 2008 on Wall Street, unspecified deregulations, the Bush Administration, and so on. He whitewashes [[Fannie Mae]] and [[Freddie Mac]]'s role and virtually eschews any mention of the Community Reinvestment Act. While advertised as nonpartisan, it contains various interviews with Democratic politicians but none with Republican politicians. Finally, Ferguson blames the financial system for corrupting American politics.
|$4,312,735
|-
|''[[Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup]]''
|2009
|
|[[Truthers]] Dylan Avery and Korey Rowe blame America for [[9/11]]. Conspiracy Theorist [[Alex Jones]] worked as Executive Producer (and don't let his paleoconservative/libertarian views fool you into thinking it is in any way a conservative documentary).
|Unknown
|-
|''Lost in Tel Aviv''
|2008
|Not Rated
|A couple strives to make a filthy, [[South Park]]-esque animated series.
|Unknown
|-
|''Makers: Women who Make America''
|2013-2014
|Unrated
|A documentary glorifying [[Feminism]], in particular, the faction that started with [[Betty Friedan]]'s ''The Second Sex''. Also features as examples of role models and pioneers of feminism such degenerates as [[Lena Dunham]] (creator of the liberal TV series ''Girls''), Linda Woolverton, [[Hillary Clinton]], [[Ellen DeGeneres]], [[Jane Fonda]], and [[Gloria Allred]]. On top of that, there's no mention of conservatives [[Margaret Thatcher]], [[Sarah Palin]], [[Phyllis Schlafly]], [[Michele Bachman]] or [[Carly Fiorina]]. Only showing more of their bias.
|N/A
|-
|''McLibel''
|1997 (TV version)
2005 (Extended version)
|
|The fast food industry is blamed for environmental issues in a manner similar to ''Super Size Me'' and the liberal book ''Fast Food Nation''. Unsurprisingly, Morgan Spurlock, the director of ''Super Size Me'', and Eric Schlosser, author of ''Fast Food Nation'', are present.
|
|-
|''Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God''
|2012
|NR
|Liberal Alex Gibney attacks Christianity.
|
|-
|''Religulous''
|2008
|R
|[[Militant atheism|Militant atheist]] "Comedian" [[Bill Maher]] tries to convince the audience of what he perceives to be the folly of all religion, with a special focus on Christianity.
|$13,011,160
|-
|''[[The Road We’ve Traveled]]''
|2012
|Not rated
|[[Tom Hanks]] directs & narrates Barack Obama's supposed achievements
|NA
|-
|''Roger & Me''
|1989
|R
|[[Michael Moore]] blames capitalism for the downfall of Flint, Michigan instead of the [[trade unions]] that bullied businesses & forced them to ship jobs overseas (due to excessive taxation) or the fact that Flint has been under [[Democratic]] leadership since 1973. Later on, Moore would also admit that he never interviewed Roger Smith.<ref>http://callcenterinfo.tmcnet.com/news/2007/06/16/2717913.htm</ref>
|$6,706,368
|-
|''The Selling of the Pentagon''
|1971
|NR
|CBS pushed this anti-American/anti-Vietnam War propaganda. The producers refused to divulge their sources to the Pentagon, and at least one of the officials involved entered a minor lawsuit against CBS.<ref name="Dan Rather's Day of Reckoning">https://www.weeklystandard.com/print/dan-rathers-day-of-reckoning/article/5895</ref>
|
|-
|''She's Beautiful When She's Angry''
|2014
|NR
|Nothing more than feminist propaganda being passed off as truth.
|$421,573<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=beautifulwhenangry.htm</ref>
|-
|''Super Size Me''
|2004
|PG-13
|Morgan Spurlock eats nothing but food from McDonald's for a month to show the negative effects of doing so and tries using this experiment that no sane person would attempt to blame [[obesity]] on great capitalist paragons like [[McDonald's]] and [[Sodexo]].
|$11,536,423
|-
|''The Tillman Story''
|2010
|R
|A liberals view of the circumstances surrounding the death of football star and [[Army Ranger]] [[Pat Tillman]]. The film portrays each and every fact as sinister. Plus, each and every fact is evidence of a conspiracy. Typical Hollywood [[George W. Bush]] bashing flick. The [[liberal bias]] was clear, make Tillman a liberal [[atheist]] anti-war hero that was cannon-fodder for the government. Tillman's actions speak louder than any twisted accusations presented in this documentary.
|$802,535
|-
|''Under the Gun''
|2016
|R
|Anti-second amendment, the film was criticized for its inaccuracies.
|
|-
|''The Uncounted Enemy: A Vietnam Deception''
|1982
|NR
|Anti-American/Anti-Vietnam War propaganda that infamously accused General [[William Westmoreland]] of deliberately understating the force strength of the [[Vietcong]] during the Tet Offensive. This resulted in a libel suit made by Westmoreland against CBS that promptly went to court after an internal investigation was issued due to ''TV Guide'' finding damning evidence of similar journalistic malpractice that was practiced in the earlier documentary/propaganda ''The Selling of the Pentagon'', which ultimately resulted in CBS losing its libel insurance, as well as the documentary unit being scrapped when [[Larry Tisch]] took over in 1987.<ref name="Dan Rather's Day of Reckoning" />
|
|-
|''The Wall Within''
|June 2, 1988
|Unrated
|A documentary helmed by extremely liberal "journalist" [[Dan Rather]] that reinforced the false image of Vietnam War veterans being anti-social degenerates suffering from PTSD and drug abuse. Was also particularly infamous in that all six of the "veterans" that were interviewed were later confirmed by various documents to have never even served during the events they mentioned, and even the one who actually DID serve did not do so with boots on the ground and was a repairman.<ref>http://loonybird.com/media_dan_rather.htm</ref>
|N/A
|-
|''Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price''
|2005
|
|This anti-capitalist schlock vilifies [[Wal-Mart]] and other discount stores.
|$1.5 million
|-
|''Winter Soldier''
|1972
|Not Rated
|The 1972 film about U.S. troops from [[Vietnam]] put on record as baby killers, [[human rights]] violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in Vietnam and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in [[Congress]] over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.
|Unknown
|-
|''Years of Living Dangerously''
|2014
|N/A
|Environmental schlockumentary spearheaded by ultra-liberal, [[James Cameron]], and featuring several proponents of [[Hollywood Values]] trying to preach the false idea of [[climate change]].
|
|}

==Anti-Christian and Sacrilegious films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''2001: A Space Odyssey''
|1968
|G
|Stanley Kubrick's most notable film was controversial upon its release for its atheistic themes, particularly its support of the [[Theory of evolution]].
|$56,954,992
|-
|''After Earth''
|2013
|PG-13
|This box office failure contains a peculiar mix of both evolutionist and [[Scientology|Scientologist]] themes, and it further tarnished M. Night Shyamalan's directorial career.
|$60,522,097
|-
||Almost any film directed by Luis Buñuel
|
|
|Luis Buñuel was an atheist bigoted against Christians. He unjustly ridiculed Christians throughout his filmography and was a pioneer in making this schlock being considered "art" when it is really just offensive, vulgar and grotesque liberal smut.
|
|-
|''Antichrist''
|2009
|NR
|This gruesome film's title says it all: it's full of horrifying imagery juxtaposed to Christian symbols.
|$791,867
|-
|''Battlefield Earth''
|2000
|PG-13
|This Scientologist propaganda piece failed at the box-office and is largely considered to be one of the worst movies ever made. It "won" in nine categories at the Golden Raspberry Awards (aka, the Razzie Awards), making it the most awarded film at the Razzies until ''Jack and Jill'' took its place. Furthermore, it won one-time awards for "Worst Drama of our first 25 Years" during the 2005 awards, as well as "Worst Picture of the Decade" in 2010. Lastly, the film plays into the liberal notion of personal characteristics mattering more than true merits: John Travolta is the star because of his affiliation with the "church" of Scientology.
|$21 million
|-
|''Book of Mormon''
|2011
|R
|Written by atheists Trey Parker and Matt Stone as what they sarcastically call "an atheist's love letter to religion", this musical insults every aspect of the Mormon religion as two of the church's elders embark on a mission to Africa. There are several Biblical inaccuracies, which reflects the writers' insane, misguided belief that Christians will believe anything word-for-word if it's written in the Bible. In one song, a group of tribal Ugandans swears against God in the Ugandan language.
|
|-
|''The Boondock Saints''
|1999
|R
|The characters are supposed to be Christians (or "saints" as the title suggests), but they show themselves as anything but. They dispense their own form of vigilante justice (summary execution) and say the F-word in every sentence they can. The FBI agent who chases them is hinted throughout the film to be [[homosexual]]. Overall, the film is just a vulgar ''[[Death Wish]]'' rip-off.
|
|-
|''Breaking the Waves''
|1996
|R
|It wrongly claims that God rewards and endorses adulterers and prostitution while vilifying devout Christians.
|$3,803,298
|-
|''The Canterbury Tales''
|1972 (Italy and West Germany) 1980 (USA)
|NC-17
|Directed by communist homosexual Italian director Pier Paolo Pasolini, the film is an utter butchering of the seminal work by Geoffery Chaucer, even including movie-exclusive scenes proving that its viewpoint is inherently left-wing and anti-Christian. Among the most infamous additions include two priests engaging in sodomy (only one is punished via execution due to being poor and thus unable to bribe his way out) and Satan defecating out screaming friars.
|N/A
|-
|''Cloud Atlas''
|2012
|R
|Supports the idea of reincarnation and features anti-Christian undertones. Additionally, supports the idea of homosexuality and [[transvestitism]], as many of the characters are resurrected as the opposite sex, while still played by the same actor. This idea of supporting homosexuality is further brought to the forefront as one of the movie's directors recently came out as having had a sex change operation as a way to promote the movie.
|$27,108,272
|-
|''The Craft''
|1996
|R
|As the title implies, it depicts witchcraft in a positive light.
|$24,819,936
|-
|''The Crucible''
|1996
|PG-13
|Based upon the Broadway play by communist sympathizer Arthur Miller, this historical revisionist drama is an allegory intentionally written to compare the Christians of the Salem Witch Trials to the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) and comparing those accused of witchcraft to the communists HUAC hunted, ultimately spreading the idea that American communists of the Cold War era were helpless "victims" of HUAC. In real history, John Proctor, one of the accused, was reported as living a “Christian life in his family and was ever ready to help such as they stood in need”, but in the film, he confesses to being a witch and publicly denounces God.
|$7,343,114
|-
|''[[The Da Vinci Code]]''
|2006
|PG-13
|Based on the book of the same name, this mystery film supports the false theory that [[Jesus]] Christ married [[Mary Magdalene]], pushing feminism and attacking Christianity along the way.
|$217,536,138
|-
|''Dead Poets Society''
|1989
|PG
|A worldly literature professor, John Keating (Robin Williams) is shown as inspiring and "open-minded". This contrasts with the conservative Christian boarding school where he teaches, apparently portrayed as conformist, oppressive, and materialistic. The film also appears to promote teen suicide, as one of the main characters is able to commit suicide without a negative word ever being uttered against his actions by any positive character.
|$95,860,116
|-
|''Dogma''
|1999
|R
|This attack on religion, particularly [[Catholic]]ism, contains cheap smutty jokes and incorrectly makes [[God]] female.
|$30,652,890
|-
|''Exodus: Gods and Kings''
|2014
|PG-13
|The prophet Moses is radically changed into an atheist and a terrorist. Glenn Beck said it essentially turns Moses into "an al-Qaeda member" who "doesn't want to rely on God anymore".
|$65,014,513
|-
|''Forty Days and Forty Nights''
|2002
|R
|In this vulgar sex comedy, the main character has to give up sex for Lent, and his ex-girlfriend tries tempting him to break his commitment throughout. Interestingly, it was released ''during'' the Lent season, so William Donnahue, President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, requested to both then-[[Disney]] CEO [[Michael Eisner]] and [[Harvey Weinstein]] that they reschedule the airing of the film, citing that "To show a film that parodies Lent in a most vulgar way is bad enough, but to show it during Lent is outrageous."<ref>http://www.catholicleague.org/appeal-to-michael-eisner-and-harvey-weinstein-reschedule-40-days-and-40-nights/</ref> In addition, despite the inflammatory material in the movie, the [[Anti-Defamation League]] head Foxman did not call out the film.<ref>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083014/posts</ref>
|$37,950,822
|-
|''The Golden Compass''
|2007
|PG-13
|Based on the atheistic ''His Dark Materials'' series.
|$70,107,728
|-
|''Hail Mary''
|1985
|NR
|Marxist filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard retells the story of Mary and Joseph in the modern day. As per his business casual, it was controversial upon its release. [[Pope John Paul II]] condemned it, claiming it was likely to offend the deeply religious because of its explicit nudity. Additionally, it depicts Joseph as a womanizing man [censored] and Mary in a similar light, as there is a montage where she is completely in the nude for no apparent reason. The film was banned in deeply religious countries such as [[Brazil]] and [[Argentina]].
|
|-
|''The Haunting of Molly Hartley''
|2008
|PG-13
|Christians are either starry-eyed kooks or homicidal maniacs, while those implied to be Satanists live a happy lifestyle.
|$15,418,749
|-
|''Hercules''
|2014
|PG-13
|This film seems to take a more atheistic turn on the Greek hero as opposed to the mythology behind Hercules.
|$72,688,614
|-
|''Inherit the Wind''
|1960
|Not Rated
|This historical revisionist drama contains a series of Hollywood-perpetuated lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] to smear Christianity, including: portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as ignorant, harsh, and punitive, based on an incorrect of his actions and testimony; falsely claiming that, at the end, Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid "caring" and "reasonable" [[Darwin]]ists; and wrongfully depicting Darwinists in a positive light and Christians as "deceitful". In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.
|
|-
|''The Invention of Lying''
|2009
|PG-13
|Written and directed by British atheist [[Ricky Gervais]], the movie takes place in an alternate reality where the concept of lying does not exist until Gervais' character invents it. As a consequence of lying not previously existing, religion hasn't existed either, so, behind the facade of a romantic comedy, the main message of the film is that all religion is based in lies.
|
|-
|''Kingdom of Heaven'' (theatrical version)
|2005
|R
|Atheist Ridley Scott directs this revisionist historical piece that portrays Muslims as the "victims" of the Crusades. In truth, the Muslims of the day won every Crusade except the first (in which Christians briefly prevailed), the third and the sixth.
|$47.4 million
|-
|''[[The Last Temptation of Christ]]''
|1988
|R
|The film's eponymous final sequence depicts the crucified Jesus—tempted by what turns out to be Satan in the form of a beautiful, androgynous child—experiencing a dream or alternative reality where he comes down from the cross, marries Mary Magdalene (and later Mary and Martha), and lives out his life as a full mortal man. He learns on his deathbed that he was deceived by [[Satan]] and begs God to let him "be [God's] son," at which point he finds himself once again on the cross. At other points in the film, Jesus is depicted as building crosses for the Romans, being tormented by the voice of God, and lamenting the many sins he believes he has committed.
Because of these departures from the gospel narratives—and especially a brief scene wherein Jesus and Mary Magdalene consummate their marriage—several Christian groups organized vocal protests and boycotts of the film prior to and upon its release. One protest, organized by a religious Californian radio station, gathered 600 protesters to picket the headquarters of Universal Studios' then-parent company MCA. One of the protestors dressed up as MCA's Chairman Lew Wasserman and pretended to drive nails through Jesus' hands into a wooden cross. Evangelist Bill Bright offered to buy the film's negative from Universal in order to destroy it. The protests were effective in convincing several theater chains not to screen the film. One of those chains, General Cinemas, later apologized to Scorsese for doing so.
Mother Angelica, a Catholic nun and foundress of Eternal Word Television Network, described ''Last Temptation'' as "the most blasphemous ridicule of the Eucharist that's ever been perpetrated in this world" and "a holocaust movie that has the power to destroy souls eternally."
In some countries, including Greece, Turkey, Mexico, Chile, and Argentina, the film was banned or censored for several years. As of July 2010, the film continues to be banned in the Philippines and Singapore.
|$8,373,585
|-
|''Legion''
|2010
|R
|In this blasphemous film, God uses an army of angels to wipe out humanity, ignoring Psalm 91:11's promise that He sends angels to protect humanity.
|$40,168,080
|-
|''The Ledge''
|2011
|Not Rated
|Atheist screenplay writer Matthew Chapman confirmed that the main character is the first openly atheist hero in American cinema. Likewise, his work misleadingly depicts Christianity, via the character Jon, as being "bigoted", abusive, and domineering. Because of this, ''The Ledge'' failed at the box office flop and received generally negative reviews.
|$610,986
|-
|''The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc''
|1999
|R
|The prominent historical figure Joan of Arc is psychologically and emotionally unstable, impulsive, and prone to mood swings, so she leads the French army to victory purely out of selfishness, cruelty, and vengeance. However, historical evidence proves the contrary. Evidently, this film was made to criticize Roman Catholicism.
|$66,976,317
|-
|''Monty Python's Life of Brian''
|1979
|R
|A man is born on the same day as Christ Jesus and is mistaken for the Messiah. Expect an hour and a half of rampant sacrilege to follow suit.
|$19,398,164
|-
|''[[Monty Python's The Meaning of Life]]''
|1983
|R
|It's ninety minutes of absurdist, godless existentialism with a sacrilegious person's view of [[Heaven]] at the end by the staunchly nonreligious British troupe Monty Python. Need we say more?
|$14,929,552
|-
|''The Most Hated Woman in America''
|2017
|R
|This biographical drama sympathizes with [[Madalyn Murray O'Hair]], who is responsible for ending official Bible-reading in American public schools in 1963 ([[Atheism and Mass Murder|and disastrous results that liberals refuse to talk about]]), and not surprisingly turns her into a martyr.
|
|-
|''Missionary''
|2013
|R
|Copying the deranged lover plot device from other films (ex. Fatal Attraction), this film makes the maniac a Mormon.
|
|-
|''Noah''
|2014
|PG-13
|In a liberal take on the classic story from the [[Book of Genesis]], liberals, going along with their usual ''modus operandi'', shoehorn in harmful messages that had nothing to do with the original story, such as [[environmentalism]], living on a vegan diet, and most notably, insisting that the [[Theory of Evolution]] is "fact". In addition, many traits of the "antagonists" appeared to be more Biblical than those of the "protagonists".<ref>Patterson, Roger & Chaffey, Tim (March 29, 2014). [https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/noah-movie-detailed-review/ The ''Noah'' Movie: Our Detailed Review]. ''Answers in Genesis''. Retrieved August 9, 2016.</ref>
|$101,200,044
|-
|''Oh! Heavenly Dog''
|1980
|PG
|Don't let the title fool you. The movie is anything but heavenly, as it smears Christianity and presents a false depiction of reincarnation.
|N/A
|-
|''Practical Magic''
|1998
|PG-13
|Yet another film glorifying witchcraft and attempting to mix romantic comedy into it (which even puzzled liberal critics).<ref>https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/practical_magic/</ref> This was one of the many wiccan movies released during the late 90's.
|$46,683,377
|-
|''Priest''
|1994
|R
|Blatantly anti-Catholic and pro-homosexual.
|$4,165,845
|-
|''Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves''
|1991
|PG-13
|In this storm of political correctness for the sake of political correctness, the Christianity of Robin Hood and his Merry Men is heavily downplayed, save for Friar Tuck's initial bigotry toward the Muslim character Azeem. Azeem, who is not present in the original Robin Hood legends but was created for this version of the Robin Hood saga, is depicted as a wise, open-minded, tolerant mystic. Robin Hood and Azeem are portrayed by liberals Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman, respectively.
|$390.5 million
|-
|''September Dawn''
|2007
|R
|This anti-Mormon propaganda piece blatantly distorts history. The Mountain Meadows Massacre was perpetrated by a group of Mormons, but, despite what this movie says, Church authority did not authorize such an act, and they still condemn it to this day. This movie was strategically released in order to muddy the waters of Mitt Romney's 2008 presidential campaign. Fortunately, the filmmakers did not get away with their heinous crimes, as ''September Dawn'' received extremely negative reviews from film critics, very weak box office receipts, and a Golden Raspberry Award nomination.
|$1,066,555
|-
|''Silent Hill''
|2006
|R
|Based on the horror-themed video game series with the same name (go figure), the Christians are the cult-like antagonists.
|$46,982,632
|-
|''Silent Night, Deadly Night''
|1984
|R
|A man becomes a serial killer after abuse from the Christian orphanage wherein he grew up. Conservative Christians successfully protested being vilified, and the film was pulled from theaters within one week of its release.
|$2,491,460
|-
|''Spotlight''
|2015
|R
|Another film bashing Christianity. The "heroes" uncover a scandal of child molestation in the Catholic Church. The film portrays them as "brave" (because Hollywood hasn't bashed Christianity enough) but ignores the fact that homosexual infiltrators within the Church, seeking to discredit and damage the Church, were responsible for the atrocities and their subsequent coverup. Strangely, the same unspeakable acts have been happening legally in Islamic nations but they are conveniently ignored by the liberal media (if the journalists uncovered that, then that would be an example of bravery). It also downplays the effect homosexuality had by having several characters specifically deny that homosexuality was a factor in their victimization and subsequent turns to homosexuality.
|$45,055,776
|-
|''Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''
|1989
|PG
|Secular humanists are kind, but the religiously devout as violent and ruthless. Even liberally biased critics didn't like it, as it won three Golden Raspberry Awards (Razzie Awards), including Worst Picture of 1989, and was nominated for three more Razzies.
|$63 million
|-
|''Sunshine''
|2007
|R
|This vehemently nonreligious, apocalyptic film is full of scientific inaccuracy. Christianity is embodied in a homicidal psychopath, who believes that it is the will of God for the world to end. This Christian is willing to kill anyone who gets in the way of what he believes is the will of God. The personified atheism, in contrast, is "sympathetic", "kind", and "pro-humanity".
|$32 million
|-
|''The Truman Show''
|1998
|PG
|An atheism and humanism propaganda piece about liberal president Harry Truman. Truman doesn't realize his seemingly ordinary life is a reality TV show, overseen by Christof, the show's heartless and manipulative creator. Christof lives in the fake sky above Truman, watching over him, controlling everything from the weather to Truman's destiny. He is an allegorical substitute for the Christian God. (Notice "Christ" in his name.) Truman must escape from the false world of the show (Christianity) and triumph over Christof. As Truman appears to walk on water in the ending, the film is displaying the false, human-worshipping sentiment that man can replace God and be Lord of his own life.
|$31,542,121
|-
|''Victor Frankenstein''
|2015
|PG-13
|The protagonist of the classic conservative novel warning against the consequences of playing God is now one of the most openly atheist protagonists in cinema.
|$34.2 million
|-
|}

==Debatable Whether Liberal==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''21 Jump Street''
|2011
|R
|Two police officers try to take down a drug ring in high school where the villains are environmentalists and drug dealers. But contains many sexual references, full profanity, and many religious insults. A parodic comedy remake of the 1987–91 [[Fox Network]] police drama of the same name.
|$201,585,328
|-
|''The 40-Year-Old Virgin''
|2005
|R
|A bawdy sex comedy about a man who is ridiculed by his peers for his indifference to sex as an adult. His friends, feeling that he isn't "normal", try to encourage him to lose his virginity, starting with pornography, sex toys, and even prostitution. However, their personal attitudes towards women ruin their own relationships, and the man remains steadfast in his abstinence. Later, he meets a woman who connects with him, but is no longer a virgin, as she has a teenage daughter. At one point, her daughter confesses only to him that she is also a virgin and encourages him not to feel bad about it. However, her mother, who has been on multiple dates with him, is still unaware of his virginity. After their proposed deadline by which the two agreed to eventually have sex, he tells her of his virginity and stays reluctant about giving in. There is some drama and confusion between them, but she eventually comes to accept him and the two are happily married at the end before having sex.
|$177.4 million
|-
|''Accepted''
|2006
|PG-13
|It criticizes the [[Department of Education]] (or colleges and universities in general) and our protagonist lives the America dream by starting his own college, but then the juvenile humor, gross-out humor and drug abuse steps in.
|$36,323,505
|-
|''Aeon Flux''
|2005
|PG-13
|Anti-cloning film, but also pro-feminism as well.
|$25,874,337
|-
|''Antz''
|1998
|PG
|It's produced by [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]], downplays the military, and possesses an implicit promotion of Communism via the main character, but also has an Anti-Eugenics message too.
|$90,757,863
|-
|''Army of Darkness''
|1993
|R
|Despite its unrealistic depictions of demons, it's a pretty gun-centric pro-Second Amendment film.
|$11,502,976
|-
|''Atlantis: The Lost Empire''
|2001
|PG
|Released during the [[Michael Eisner]] era of [[Disney]]. On the one hand, the main villain is a military commander who would endanger the lost city of Atlantis just to be rich, and it is implied that he would commit treason by selling the power source to the Kaiser during World War I for the same motivation. The theft of the crystal to become rich could be seen as a condemnation of capitalism. That being said, however, capitalism has also been promoted in a more positive light in the form of Preston B. Whitmore, an eccentric but ultimately good-hearted billionaire who funded the expedition in the first place, and in addition, most of the principal cast was shown to have dreams of getting a better lot in society, with it being heavily implied in the ending that they ultimately succeeded in achieving those dreams after selflessly trying to save Atlantis, which acts as an implicit promotion of both capitalism and the American Dream.
|$84,056,472
|-
|''Beauty and the Beast''
|1991
|G
|A young woman overcomes a shallow society and finds true love. Although by comparison a powerful and immensely popular antidote to [[feminism]] to the [[liberal]] movies churned out by [[Disney]] since, as well as overall promoting redemption (as seen with the Beast's transformation), and also promoting some family values (such as Belle being loyal to her father), there were a few hints at feminist propaganda at the beginning of the film, such as Belle being different from the villagers because she can read, which is implied to not be supported by the villagers at all (feminist propaganda often falsely claims that women couldn't get an education until the 1960s), as well as Belle being unwilling to hold the role of housewife for Gaston or raising children, and later her blaming the titular Beast for her fleeing the castle despite most of the events leading up to and after that event being largely her fault and the story framing that as being a good thing she did. On a related note, a scene that had Belle baking a cake for her father when he got home ended up cut at the order of Linda Woolverton, with her reason specifically being because "a liberated woman [like Belle] wouldn't know how to bake," essentially implying that baking would have been the activity of non-liberated women, a typical statement by feminists.<ref name="Woolverton and Belle">https://www.mouseplanet.com/8500/Linda_Woolverton_and_Belle</ref><ref>https://www.yahoo.com/news/belle-beauty-beast-became-disneys-155053182.html</ref> In addition, the opening song and the reprise has Belle having a similar "smarter-than-thou" personality that is all too common among liberals, having her refer to the villagers derogatorily as "little people" in the beginning of the opening song, repeatedly stressing the "provincial" elements of the village when expressing her desire to leave the village, complaining about Gaston due to considering him "boorish and brainless" shortly after his failed proposal, and also dismissing the villagers as "they" when mentioning her goals ("I want so much more than what ''they've'' got planned"). On that note, due to Beast being unwilling to even defend himself, let alone the castle servants, when the mob arrived to kill him until Belle had arrived at the last second, which had been the result of Belle's attempts at civilizing Beast, it gives the implication that the ideal male in the film is not allowed to get angry or act violently even in self-defense unless a woman was physically present. Then-Disney Chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg also mentioned that he wanted "a feminist twist" on the original fairy tale by creating a heroine who is "a departure from typical Disney female characters",<ref>http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-22/features/2825583_1_beast-s-castle-fairy-tale-madame-gabrielle</ref> which had partly been done in response to negative criticisms towards Ariel in the Conservative film ''The Little Mermaid'' (which had been the immediate preceding film) by liberal critics,<ref name="Woolverton and Belle" /> and the feminist writer [[Linda Woolverton]] made clear that she made Belle a feminist and based her on the women's liberation movement from the 1970s in order to avoid creating another insipid princess.<ref name="Beauty and Maleficent">{{Cite web|url = http://time.com/2798136/maleficent-beauty-beast-writer/|title = The Same Woman Wrote Maleficent and Beauty and the Beast—Here’s How They’re Linked|date = May 30, 2014|accessdate = January 16, 2014|website = Time|publisher = |last = Rothman|first = Lily}}</ref><ref>http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/26/linda-woolverton-alice-belle-disney-heroines?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter</ref><ref>https://www.bustle.com/articles/163686-the-one-thing-beauty-and-the-beast-fans-probably-dont-know-about-the-creation-of-belle</ref><ref>http://www.mouseplanet.com/8500/Linda_Woolverton_and_Belle</ref><ref>http://articles.latimes.com/1992-01-19/entertainment/ca-544_1_disney-film</ref> On that note, this made it the first ''Disney'' animated adaptation of a fairy tale to radically alter the story specifically to promote a left-wing socio-political agenda onto the audience regardless of whether such was actually appropriate for the audience or an actual good message (as prior Disney films generally made alterations specifically to tone down anything that was otherwise inappropriate for the age group for the audience).

Gaston is a conservative and hardworking hunter who is considered by the villagers to be their town hero, but is shown to be the main villain of the movie (it should also be noted that in the original screenplay for the film, Gaston was intended to be a Marquess [French nobleman], meaning the decision to make him a conservative and hardworking hunter was made after a rewrite). In addition, although not to the same degree as other Disney films that came after it (i.e., ''The Hunchback of Notre Dame'' and ''The Princess and the Frog''), the film also has a slight anti-Christian bent, as the villagers (strongly implied by various verses in the opening song and the mob song, as well as a failed wedding, to be practicing and devout Christians) were later briefly seen supporting a plan that went against God's teachings, as well as overall depicted as being idiots, while Belle, the character framed as an intellectual and a moral figure, is not even seen or even implied to believe in God at all. In addition, Belle's love for Beast (where it is implied that she was largely unaware of the Beast being formerly a human prince) could be seen as promoting bestiality. Also, it is the first Disney movie to neither show nor hint at the two love interests getting married, and in fact, the only "wedding" in the film was the one Belle ruined, creating negative implications about marriage as a result, as well as starting a string of movies that don't paint marriage in a positive light.

Similarly, the only three females in the film who are implicitly supportive of marriage and Christianity are demeaned, depicted as dumb blondes with the script and credits explicitly referring to them derogatorily as "the bimbettes." There was also a slight anti-hunting sentiment in the film, due to the main villain, as aforementioned, explicitly being labelled as a hunter. According to Don Hahn, there were also several overtones of a pro-homosexual agenda within the film, including choice lyrics of the mob song late into the film, largely because of the executive producer, Howard Ashman, being homosexual and dying from AIDS at the time the film was made and wanting to push the idea of being "ostracized" for his suffering from AIDS.<ref>https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/03/beauty-and-the-beast-gay-lefou-howard-ashman</ref><ref>https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/16583/don-Hahn-interview-beauty-and-the-beast-howard-Ashman-the-lion-king-south-park-and-frankenweenie</ref> One of the protagonistic characters, Lumiere, is briefly seen making out with a featherduster and was implied that the two weren't married, with some hints at Lumiere being an unrepentant womanizer (with the implication being further increased in the Special Edition-exclusive song "Human Again" where Lumiere mentioned he had a "mademoiselle in each arm", would be "courting again, chic and sporting again", and Mrs. Potts interjecting "Which should cause several husbands alarm." with Lumiere laughing at this, heavily implying that Lumiere was an adulterer to married women). In addition, Maurice is depicted as slightly addled and eccentric, as well as being naïve (such as thinking Gaston was a good match for Belle despite the story making clear he wasn't), and while he does try to go out of his way to save Belle in the midway point of the film, he ultimately needs saving twice and is unable to save Belle at all, which makes it debatable as to just how pro-family the narrative actually was. In addition, some elements of the film were later reused in the [[Essay:Worst Liberal Movies#Social|definitely liberal]] ''Maleficent'' movie.<ref name="Beauty and Maleficent" />
|$$218,967,620
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|''Beauty and the Beast'' (2017 remake)
|2017
|PG
|On the one hand, the 2017 film version of ''Beauty and the Beast'' is the latest in the film trend of needlessly and shamelessly remaking animated films or children's stories for the sake of earning easy revenue and capitalizing on current film trends in the modern, soulless Hollywood studio system. Liberals also seized the opportunity with the remake to exploit diversity and promote some liberal values within the ''Beauty and the Beast'' universe. The final result of the diversity inclusion in the cast of characters is that it feels self-congratulatory in the sense of putting it all in for the sake of having it, rather than having it be just a part of the story and the film. One notable example is the filmmakers' decision to make LeFou, Gaston's diminutive and bumbling sidekick, a homosexual who is conflicted with his feelings for Gaston (although it should be noted that in the actual script, it was never actually specified that LeFou was homosexual.<ref>https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/03/03/josh-gad-lefou-beauty-and-the-beast/98679284/</ref>). At the end of the film, LeFou is shown taking a romantic interest in a musketeer who is now a transgender woman after being transformed into one during Gaston's siege of the Beast's castle.

Not only is it an atrocious and needless artistic decision of the filmmakers to needlessly incorporate diversity simply for the sake of it, but the 2017 film version of ''Beauty and the Beast'' also serves as an example that liberals can legitimately shoehorn the [[homosexual agenda]] into Disney films. Adding salt to the wound, the filmmakers also further changed history to suit their feminist agenda, similar to previous Disney films like ''Mulan'' (1998), ''Pocahontas'' (1995) and ''The Princess and the Frog'' (2009) (most infamously, the villagers are shown to be explicitly intolerant of Belle learning how to read and teaching girls to do the same, smashing her washing machine in the process, despite the fact that the namesake for the village in this film, Mdm. Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve, the original author for the fairy tale, was herself a woman). The 2017 film version of ''Beauty and the Beast'' is now even more of a feminist propaganda film than the 1991 animated film version ever was. There were also hints at an anti-war message due to Gaston being turned into a war veteran.

On the other hand, there were also several surprisingly Conservative messages in the film, significantly more than in the 1991 version. Namely, Christianity is treated in a far more positive light in this film than in the 1991 version as one of the few friends Belle has in this version is the village Chaplain named Pere Robert who is shown to be sympathetic to her bibliophilic nature and also attempts to prevent Maurice from being sent to the Asylum, and later is shown to be horrified at the formation of the mob against the Beast (it is to be noted that in the original 1991 film, the character in question was merely a bookseller, not a priest, and most of the villagers, implied to be devout Christians, were demonized in the film), which was also surprisingly accurate to history despite the aforementioned changing of history in the film (in real history, Christianity, especially the Catholic Church, actively encouraged literacy, writing, and arithmetic among both genders, with girls being taught in convents or at the home.). In addition, Maurice actually is shown to be more proactive in this film, such as directly refusing Gaston's attempt at marrying Belle and even attempting to expose Gaston as an attempted murderer and psychopath, and also plays a direct role in saving Belle and himself from the paddywagon after she exposes Beast to the villagers (in the original film, although he does set out to try and find Belle and save her after trying to get the villagers to help failed, he ultimately required saving by her due to catching an illness during his trek, and ultimately needed saving alongside Belle via Chip).

In addition, Lumiere as well as the featherduster (named Plumette in this version) are shown to be an actual loving couple (in the original film, it is heavily implied that Lumiere was a frequent womanizer and that the featherduster was also sexually loose), and the remake also doesn't demonize traditional marriage nearly as much as in the 1991 version (notably, the remake cut out Gaston's wedding proposal as well as Belle shoving Gaston into mud in front of attendees). The forgiveness and redemption theme was also significantly more emphasized in the remake, due to Beast ultimately forgiving Maurice after learning why he had tried to steal the rose and even allowing Belle to save Maurice specifically to make up for his past behavior, with Maurice also forgiving Beast upon Belle showing him the baby rattle (originally, Maurice was a bit more hesitant to forgive the Beast). It is also shown to be significantly more pro-family as well, as not only is Belle shown to be loyal to her father like in the 1991 original, but as noted above, Maurice himself took measures to protect Belle and notably agreed with Belle that Gaston would not have worked out for her (originally, Maurice also thought Gaston was alright for her), and he also was shown to be very protective of Belle after his wife had died from the plague, with Belle's mom specifically sacrificing herself by telling them to leave her behind to allow Belle a healthy life.

In addition, the triplets (renamed to "Village Lasses") in the remake were depicted as having haughtiness, arrogance, being jealous of Belle, as well as overall being nasty people, including briefly smirking at Belle when she was locked up in the paddywagon as well as being actively involved in the arrest of Maurice as well as the later attack on Beast's castle (in the original film, the triplets were not shown to have any negative behavior to them besides their crushing on Gaston [not participating in the later arrest of Maurice, let alone the attack on Beast's castle shortly afterward during the climax, and also implying at one point that they were willing to give their blessing to Gaston marrying Belle when Belle refused him in the beginning of the film, and while they were present during the final lyrics for the Gaston reprise where Gaston explicitly divulged key details for his blackmail plan, the way it was framed could easily be interpreted as the triplets genuinely not knowing about the plan due to their absence from Maurice's arrival up to the scene where Gaston whispers the plan to LeFou.], and it is also heavily implied that they supported traditional marriage and were demeaned in the film by being referred to in the script as The Bimbettes and treated as dumb blondes for this reason). In addition, according to the film's director Bill Condon as well as one of the triplets' actresses, Rafaelle Cohen, the reason the triplets were intensely jealous and spiteful of Belle was because their mother neglected them while doting on Belle, showcasing the dangers of parental neglect.
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|''Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas''
|1998
|G
|Paints Christmas in a positive light, and has Beast learning the meaning behind it, as well as putting aside the past relating to it being the reason he was cursed. Also significantly tones down the more feminist messaging from the original film. The manner in which Christmas was depicted, however, was closer to the secular view of Christmas than the actual intended meaning of the holiday being a celebration of the birth of [[Jesus Christ]].
|N/A (Direct to video movie)
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|''The Bee Movie''
|2007
|PG
|Its debatable whether or not its environmentalist or against it. It does show the destructiveness of environmentalism (i.e. butting into nature's problems in the name of helping her). The anti-human human sentiments in the movie turned out to be wrong, however, the humans are taking the honey made by the bees, similar to the welfare program of taking from those who worked for it. Others believe the movie promotes [[bestiality]], and is just disguised as a family movie.
|$287,600,000
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|''Bohemian Rhapsody''
|2018
|PG-13
|A biopic of [[Freddie Mercury]], the lead singer of the band Queen. While it does show elements of the practice of homosexuality and hedonism, at the same time, the film largely condemned the practice since it was made clear that Mercury's embracing of these things was what ultimately ruined Queen and his personal relationships, and is what ultimately killed him via AIDS. In addition, Paul Prenter, the only other major character to embrace homosexuality in the movie, was depicted in a very negative light, as he was one of the reasons Mercury went down a bad path, with it being made clear later on that Paul largely was using Mercury for his own gratification, blamed others for his bad ideas, and even hid vital information from Mercury deliberately such as the Live Aid concert plans as well as Mary Austin calling him. It also had a promotion of redemption, as Mercury, inspired largely by his former girlfriend/wife, Mary Austin nearing the end of the film, attempts to reconnect with his band and family and make amends in the time he had left before dying from AIDS. That all being said, however, it's debatable whether the film intended to paint his homosexual escapades in a negative light, as several members of the production company, including Freddie Mercury's actor Rami Malek, indicated that it was a "regrettable" decision as a result of not having enough time to give a "more balanced" view of (ie, promoting) his bisexual lifestyle.
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|''The Campaign''
|2012
|R
|Political comedy depicts the Democrat candidate (Will Ferrell) as an obnoxious, drunken womanizer and satire of [[John Edwards]], although the Republican candidate (Zach Galifianakis) is portrayed just as negatively as a corrupt capitalist.
|$33,165,738
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|''Chicken Run''
|2000
|G
|Produced by [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]], this vegan propaganda film compares a chicken farm to the [[Holocaust]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynn_A73hcfs</ref> The main villain of the movie is a capitalist who wants to make chicken pies. The film also promotes elements of feminism and anti-Americanism. On other hand the main villain of the movie is also a feminist as well as she called her husband's ancestors "poor worthless nothings"
|$106,834,564
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|''The Crow''
|1994
|R
|The tagline claims that our hero is an angel, but he doesn't display any Christian values. However, there is an anti-drug scene were Eric Draven (the hero) makes a drug addict mother realize that her daughter needs her & gets her off drugs. On top of that the film's villains are nihilist anarchists. The film is notable for being Brandon Lee's last film, as an accident on the set killed him during production.
|$50,693,129
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|''Ed Wood''
|1994
|R
|Although it does glorify cross dressing and the [[homosexual agenda]]. It still is pro-capitalism and the film also glorifies the American dream. As despite the obstacles Wood faces, he still continues doing what he loves in making movies.
|$5,887,457
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|''Edward Scissorhands''
|1990
|PG-13
|Endorsed by the Christian website ChristianAnswers.net with a 4 out of 5 star rating. Conversely however, a prominently featured Christian character - the only character in the movie ever identified as Christian - is portrayed as fanatical and bigoted against people with scissors for hands.
|$56,362,352
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|''Falling Down''
|1993
|R
|Film takes jabs at many [[liberal values]], [[illegal immigration]], union workers, multiculturalism, (one scene where Bill tells his ex-wife that the ice cream shop him and his family used to go to is now a Mexican store) and foreign aid (in one scene Bill asks an illegal Korean immigrate a rhetorical question on how much America has given his country and yells at him after he refuses to learn the language).<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4tC4qfv92Q</ref> It's also one of the very few films to be truthful in the "Nazis were right wingers" myth perpetrated by liberals, in which Bill informs a Neo-Nazi that he's an American and the Nazi is a sick a-hole. As well as many shots where the America flag is trashed upon (which could symbolize how liberalism has trashed everything America has stood for).<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPzExBdfIg</ref> But at the same time it also takes jabs at capitalism, where Bill believes he's no longer commercially valuable. And although the plot is about man trying to reach his daughter's birthday party, the film seems to toy with its audience in suggesting whether he's mentally ill or not, as opposed to a pro-family message.
|$40,903,593
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|''[[Fargo]]''
|1996
|R
|A pregnant sheriff with traditional American family values solves an elaborate criminal embezzlement, kidnapping, and murder scheme. It remains debatable whether she is a feminist or feminine protagonist.
|$24,611,975
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|''Ghost''
|1990
|PG-13
|The [[Bible]] claims ghosts don't exist. Still this film toys with idea that they do, also it has liberal actress Whoopi Goldberg as a psychic medium. Nevertheless, the film does show Christian values, as ghost Sam Wheat tries to uncover a bank fraud case, when he does convinces Goldberg to give the money to a Christian charity. It also has an anti-infidelity message, as despite being widowed, Sam's wife Molly still refuses to be with anyone else, even when his false friend Carl tries to hit on her. Also it isn't PC on [[Eternal damnation|damnation]], as the villains are seen being cared away helplessly by evil spirits after they die.
|$217,631,306
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|''Good Kill''
|2014
|R
|Ethan Hawke plays a man who questions the ethics of his job as a drone pilot, while it is taking a jab at the [[Barack Obama]] regime (Obama has droned more people in the Middle East than George W. Bush, most of whom were innocent bystanders and the left has ignored it or claimed it was a "Fox News conspiracy"). It could also be against the War on Terror too.
|$316,472
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|''Grave of the Fireflies''
|1988
|UR
|While the film has been labeled anti-war, the director Isao Takahata stated the actual meaning was about growing up. The film's message is still debatable to this day.
|
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|''Halloween III: Season of the Witch''
|1982
|R
|Unlike the two films before it (which has mass murder Michael Myers) this film's villain is a pagan who plans on sacrificing children via witchcraft to bring back the original celebration of Halloween. However he does this by selling masks to them which many critics pointed out may have been an anti-capitalism message.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/1982/10/22/movies/haloween-iii-plotting-a-joke.html</ref> The film's "hero" is also an adulterer.
|$14,400,000
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|''Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters''
|2013
|R
|Western fairy tale characters Hansel and Gretel are now adults and have their own private bounty hunting organization in hunting witches. Portrays witchcraft in a negative manner, and guns in good light. But the gore, graphic violence and brief nudity is rather unnecessary.
|$55,703,475
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|''Harry and the Hendersons''
|1987
|PG
|Should be PG-13 for multiple uses of the dreaded S-word in profanity.
|$49 million
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|''High Noon''
|1952
|UR
|A favorite of both Presidents [[Dwight Eisenhower]] and [[Bill Clinton]]; [[John Wayne]] said it was "the most un-American thing I've ever seen in my whole life";<ref>http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/47/highnoon.php</ref> though susceptible of various interpretations, most of all it seems to scare people into wanting more government.
|$3,750,000
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|''Hoot''
|2006
|PG
|A movie about a bunch of kids who stand up to a CEO company that is trying to put one of its restaurants on a burrowing owl habitat. However the movie contains many morals, and promoting friendship. It does give kids the great inspiration to stand up for what they believe is right.
|$8,117,637
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|''Horrible Bosses 2''
|2014
|R
|Sequel to Horrible Bosses. Though this film could be argued to actually support the American Dream and capitalism, which its processor clearly did not.
|$54,445,357
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|''[[The Hunger Games]]''
|2012
|PG-13
|Futuristic totalitarians plan titular annual televised "games" as punishment on the descendants of failed revolutionaries from a past uprising. Although technically a message against totalitarianism and for individualism, Leftist actor Donald Sutherland, who played President Snow, implied that the struggles of the films' protagonists were supposed to be derived from the Occupy Wall Street movement, and the book's author also indicated that the events of the book were based on the George W. Bush administration.
|$406,267,858
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|''I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry''
|2007
|PG-13
|Portrayals an inside joke of [[same-sex marriage|same-sex "marriage"]] by having [[Adam Sandler]] and Kevin James pretend to be a homosexual couple in order to receive benefits. The villains of the movies are government ranking officials out to prove with they are really homosexual. However contains some scenes of girls in lingerie and Adam Sandler checking out some girls. The film took place prior to the 2011 enactment of the Marriage Equality Act, which claimed to "legalize" "marriage" for same-sex couples in the state. At the time the film was released, the state allowed for residents to file for unregistered cohabitation rights, and various municipal and county governments had offered domestic partnership registries.
|$120,059,556
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|''Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull''
|2008
|PG-13
|Although the film does depict the Communists as bad guys (to such an extent that the Russian Communist Party in Moscow was angered by the decision), and implies that Indiana Jones is a Republican or at the very least an [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] fan, the film also depicts McCarthyism in a negative light, with one character implying that the American Government was simply being paranoid and denies there being a sizeable Communist infiltration in America, and also seems to promote paganism in the form of the Crystal Skull.
|$786.6 million
|-
|''The Iron Giant''
|1999
|PG
|This animation espouses anti-war themes and also brief but strong anti-hunting sentiments. Firearms in general are shown in a negative light, with the phrase "guns kill" being repeated a total of three times. The titular giant is referred to as a "big gun that walks." From a conservative viewpoint, he is a poor metaphor for a real gun; unlike a law-abiding citizen who is a gun owner, the giant has no choice in his actions because he is a war machine programmed with the inability to use his weapons for good, but only to use them thoughtlessly and senselessly. The story involves him learning to hide his weapons and "not be a gun". The conclusion is that, in order to protect the public from an incoming missile, he must fly into it and kill himself rather than use his guns against it. As it is explained, "It's bad to kill, but it isn't bad to die." In addition, despite being set during the Cold War, it largely downplays the Soviet menace that was occurring during that time, as the main antagonist, Kent Mansley, is a government agent (implied to be part of the NSA) investigating the titular Iron Giant who at one point while launching a tirade against Hogarth Hughes alludes to the possibility that the Communists may have been responsible for the Giant's creation as a means to destroy America and that they must destroy it before "it destroys us" and is treated negatively for it. Also features some foul language.

That all being said, however, despite the definite anti-gun and anti-hunting themes, the film does portray the military in a fairly positive light, as General Rogarth was shown to be even-headed and only willing to use military force if confronted with evidence requiring for it, also making clear that he was not happy about bringing out an implied large military force for what was apparently a hoax, and while the military does try to attack the Iron Giant late into the film, it was only because they had been manipulated into doing so by Kent Mansley by the latter lying about the giant killing Hogarth Hughes, and only when confronted with evidence that Hogarth had in fact been alive did the military stand down. In addition, when Hogarth left to investigate the evidence of a "martian" taking out an antenna, he proceeded to salute a photograph of his father, who was implied to have died during World War II. Also has a positive portrayal of the American icon Superman in it. There's also an anti-materialist message in it as well as an implicitly Christian message, as Hogarth talks to the Giant about how humans and other forms of life possess souls that live on even after their mortal bodies die.
|$5,732,614
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|''The Iron Lady''
|2011
|PG-13
|The British biopic of [[Conservative Party]] leader and 1979-90 [[Prime Minister of the United Kingdom|British Prime Minister]], Margaret Thatcher, showing the effects of conservative economic policy on Britain, helping to lift the country out of its recession. However, it also showed Margaret Thatcher in a somewhat negative light, depicting her during her late years as becoming slightly addled.
|$80,554,188 (international including UK), $27,081,674 (US - domestic)
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|''[[It's a Wonderful Life]]''
|1946
|UR
|It promotes the concept of self-worth and individualism ultimately, and that choices do in fact matter and have consequences, and ultimately promotes faith to a certain extent. However, it also falsely teaches that humanism is what makes life worthwhile; marginalizes [[faith]] with a cartoonish depiction and demonizes capitalism as sadistic and greedy.
|$3,300,000
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|''Jaws''
|1975
|PG
|Anti-environmentalism film, the heroes are police chief Brody, WWII vet Quint and Marine Biologist Hooper who team up to take on a monstrous, man-eating great white shark. However, there is a part where (despite the warning) the Mayor keeps the beaches open for the sake of money, which some may say is an anti-capitalism statement. Notable for being one of the first summer blockbusters. It was followed by three sequels in 1978, 1983 and 1987.
|$260,000,000<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jaws.htm</ref>
|-
|''Juno''
|2007
|PG-13
|A pregnant teenage woman rejects [[abortion]] and decides for an adoptive birth instead. This movie pushes [[feminism]] and marginalizes the essential role of fatherhood.
|$143,492,840
|-
|''Jurassic World''
|2015
|PG-13
|Jurassic Park is now functioning and open for business and the new boss is a woman, an obvious feminist message. Also the military is downgraded as they plan to weaponize dinosaurs. Despite all this feminists weren't impressed and labeled it sexist<ref>https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/10/jurassic-world-a-big-dumb-sexist-mess.html</ref> and even liberal critics called the weaponizing dinosaurs plot asinine.<ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/olos-nah/2015/06/ill-just-say-what-everyone-is-thinking-jurassic-world-is-terrible/</ref>
|$652,270,625
|-
|''Kiki's Delivery Service''
|1989
|G
|The film does show the value of hard work and is pro-capitalism (Kiki owns her own delivery business), but at the same time depicts feminism and witchcraft in a positive light.
|$18 million
|-
|''Kingdom of Heaven'' (director's cut)
|2005
|R
|A story set in the Crusades period about a young knight. While the theatrical version was a pure liberal media, the director's cut promotes fighting, honor, duty, and portrays the noble Knights Hospitallers in a positive light. That being said, the movie still portrays Knights Templars in a negative light.
|$47,398,413
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|''Kingsman: The Secret Service''
|2015
|R
|Anti-environmentalist, the villain attempts to eradicate the human race because of his belief in man-made global warming. Though the film is full of language and violence as well as a brief nudity scene. There's also one scene were one of the characters gets into a bloody fight with a group of Christians whom are portrayed as "racists".
|$128,261,724
|-
|''Knocked Up''
|2007
|R
|Unemployed, immature and childish 23-year old Ben Stone (Seth Rogen) has a one-night stand with serious career woman Alison Scott (Katherine Heigl), with the unintended consequence of pregnancy. Alison's mother (Joanna Kerns) says she should get the pregnancy "[[abortion|taken care of]]", while Ben's best friend Jonah (Jonah Hill) suggests that "I won't say the A-word, but it rhymes with abortion." Alison decides to keep the child, while Ben decides to find a real job, grow up, and become a father.
|$148,768,917
|-
|''The LEGO Movie''
|2014
|PG
|Anti-Large Government, with a message that anyone has the potential to be extraordinary. However is also anti-capitalist, and the main villain is Lord Business.
|$257,760,692
|-
|''Lincoln''
|2012
|PG-13
|Bio film on conservative icon [[Abraham Lincoln]], played wonderfully by Daniel Day-Lewis. Although overall very positive towards Lincoln and the Republican Party, it nonetheless downplays the role the Democrat Party played in the institution of slavery during the Civil War.
|$182,207,973
|-
|''Lionheart''
|1990
|R
|Pro-family as Jean-Claude Van Damme plays Lyon Gaultier (nicknamed Lionheart) who becomes a street fighter to help pay his sister-in-law's expenses after her husband is killed. During this time he also tries to reconnect with his estranged family. However he gets into the country illegally, which some could point out is a pro-illegal immigration statement.
|$24,078,196
|-
|''The Lorax''
|2012
|PG
|Although it has an environmentalist agenda, it also states that monopolies are wrong.
|$214,030,500
|-
|''Mulan''
|1998
|G
|The film has Liberals changing history to suit their feminist agenda similar to what they did in Pocahontas as well as some historical revisionism (In the film the Huns are at war with China, even though this never happened). However, the central theme of [[Filial piety]] from work it was based on, [[The Ballad of Mulan]], is still present ultimately, as the main reason Mulan joined the military was because her father suffered a severe injury that made him unfit for combat, and the film is pro-Military.
|$120,620,254
|-
|''P.C.U.''
|1994
|PG-13
|College students fight back against a campus where the administration promotes official [[diversity]] awareness weekends and radical [[feminism]], [[vegan]]ism, and [[political correctness]] run amok, but a conservative group on campus is also portrayed just as negatively as the P.C. groups.
|$4,350,774
|-
|''[[The Passion of the Christ]]''
|2004
|R
|Downplays the [[Resurrection]]<ref>The original version of the film had no references at all to the Resurrection.</ref> and strength of Christianity and omits powerful angels; instead exaggerates triumph of evil; film had little lasting effect on public or its producer; portrayed nails as through the hands rather than through the wrists as depicted by the [[Shroud of Turin]] and confirmed by modern science.
|$370,782,930
|-
|''Pillow Talk''
|1959
|UR
|A classic starring Rock Hudson and Doris Day in which conservative values triumph over liberal ones. There are no distortions by feminist ideology. Indeed, in one scene a leading man slaps the leading lady, but then is beaten up by dimwitted bystanders for it!
|$18,750,000
|-
|''The Princess and the Frog''
|2009
|G
|Liberals praised this film for featuring Disney's first African American princess but ignored the fact that it insults Christianity with Louisiana Voodoo, even replacing the traditional role of the fairy godmother with a blind voodoo priestess. On top of that, ''The Princess and the Frog'' is said to have stolen much of its plot from great conservative film ''The Little Mermaid'' <ref>http://crowdofstars.livejournal.com/14186.html</ref> That being said, however, it does depict traditional femininity in a positive light in the form of the side character Charlotte LeBoeuf, and is the first Disney animated feature film to have a positive depiction of traditional marriage since ''The Little Mermaid'' two decades prior. It's also debatable as to whether it promotes feminism, as aside from Charlotte LeBoeuf being depicted in a positive light overall as noted above, it implies at one point that Tiana achieving her dreams of being a CEO is ultimately a negative due to the main villain Dr. Facilier using that to tempt her into aiding him.
|$104,400,899
|-
|''Pulp Fiction''
|1994
|R
|Despite saying the F-word in almost every sentence, the film (surprisingly) has a pro-Christian message as after being shot at, every bullet misses mob hit men Jules Winnfield and Vincent Vega. Winnfield believes it was a divine intervention and message from God to stop his life of crime. His partner doesn't believe this but it's later proven to be true as he perished later on in the movie. Also has sadomasochistic homosexuals as the bad guys. And (sort of) has an anti-drug message as mob boss's girlfriend Mia Wallace is seen also overdosing (a negative side to drugs) on heroin.
|$107,928,762
|-
|''The Rescuers''
|1977
|G
|The villain in this movie is a capitalist pawn shop owner, who wants a rare diamond to make her rich, to add insult to injury they're Southerners. Also paints the United Nations in a positive light. On the other hand, the main villain is also a feminist, and the main human protagonist is shown praying for not only herself (even she has been kidnapped) but for all the kids in the orphanage (who have not been kidnapped). This is one of the rare Disney films feature a [[Christian]] character that's treated in a positive light.
|$29 million

|-
|''Robin Hood''
|1973
|G
|Animated Disney adaptation of the iconic story, depicting all of the characters as anthropomorphic animals. Although the story itself was based on [[Joseph Ritson]]'s revised version of the character that was in support of the Jacobin cause and thus was a liberal icon (steals from the rich, gives to the poor), the villain is Prince John who makes his money from taxes, suggesting Robin Hood is only giving money the government demanded back to people who actually worked for it. It also features a condemnation of government encroachment of the church, as a pivotal scene featured the Sheriff of Nottingham explicitly stealing a coin from the poor box and his later arresting Friar Tuck for trying to stop him, and the Sheriff's actions were clearly being framed in a horrible light.
|$32 million
|-
|''[[Rogue One: A Star Wars Story]]''
|2016
|PG-13
|A group of freedom fighters undertake a dangerous mission in an attempt to steal the plans for the Galactic Empire's ultimate weapon, the Death Star. Unlike the previous Star Wars films, the focus of this one is on soldiers on the battlefield, their goal to restore liberty to the Galaxy. This gives the movie a strong feeling of American patriotism, and could also be argued to show respect to the U.S. military. However, the screenwriters Chris Weitz and Gary Whitta made tweets that implied that they were trying to push the leftist Diversity agenda just after Trump won the presidency, as well as used a customized version of the Rebel Starbird logo with a safety pin attached, and one of the main characters, Saw Gerrera, was stated to be based on Marxist revolutionary [[Che Guevara]] and was treated in a (comparably) positive light.
|$1,043,133,586
|-
|''Saw''
|2004-2010, 2017
|R (Director's Cuts are NC-17)
|The franchise contains an anti-nihilist message, with the antagonist, John Kramer, also known as "the Jigsaw Killer," wishing for his victims to survive the "games" in which he places them, ultimately emerging with a better appreciation for their lives. For example, ''Saw'' condemns the adultery committed by Dr. Lawrence Gordon. ''Saw III'' focuses on the value of forgiveness, John having Jeff Denlon complete three tests involving the three people whom he blamed for the death of his young son. ''Saw IV'' contains a very strong message of letting go and letting people find salvation and redemption for themselves, an allusion to biblical passages about the subject. However, it could also be argued that Jigsaw is playing God with the value of human life, by bringing his test subjects to the very edge of death, forcing them to gravely hurt themselves, in order to survive. Furthermore, in ''Saw III'', one of his apprentices, Amanda Young, is revealed to have rigged traps to kill her victims, even if they successfully complete their games, as she no longer believes in Jigsaw's philosophy. However, John is shown clearly shown to be disgusted by Amanda's actions, though nevertheless trying to guide her to redemption, or at least his version of it. Other condemnations of nihilism include the clearly sociopathic depiction of corrupt Detective Mark Hoffman, the most important of Jigsaw's apprentices, as he, like Amanda, strays from John's philosophy and simply rigs traps to murder his victims, while also carrying out the games that John had planned before his death at the end of ''Saw III.''
|$953,421,276
|-
|''Shame''
|2011
|NC-17
|While the movie shows [[Hollywood Values]], such as sex addiction, in a negative light and is clearly anti-[[homosexual agenda]], as the main character reaches his lowest point by partaking in such acts, the film is graphic in its nature leaving one to question how conservative it really is.
|$3,909,002
|-
|''[[The Simpsons]] Movie''
|2007
|PG-13
|This feature based upon the long-running animated sitcom portrays the liberal [[Environmental Protection Agency|EPA]] as a villainous and devious agency and the government in general as intrusive and corrupt. On the other hand, it celebrates [[environmentalism]] in the beginning.
|$183,135,014
|-
|''Soul Man''
|1986
|PG-13
|A white student cheats the [[affirmative action]] system, by pretending to be black in order to get the scholarship he needs for to pay for Harvard. Towards the end, it is revealed he took the scholarship away from someone who needed it as well (and is really black) because she has a son and is divorced at such a young age. The movie portyals the police as racist, and blames racism on many things, and seems to support the need for affirmative action. But on a conservative note, the film teaches the importance of hard work, and is also politically incorrect.
|$27,820,000
|-
|''[[Star Wars]]''
|1977-1983 (Original Trilogy); 1999-2005 (Prequel Trilogy); 2015- (Sequel Trilogy)
|PG, PG-13 (Episode III & Episode VII)
|The well-known space opera series is mostly composed of simple truths about the triumph of good over evil, and in the case of ''Episode VI: Return of the Jedi'', redemption. However, ''Episode VI'' also contained some implied pro-[[Vietcong]] propaganda at George Lucas' behest via the Ewoks, as well as his later claiming that the entirety of the ''Star Wars'' saga from ''Episodes IV''-''VI'' was meant to be his means of protesting Vietnam (which is supported by a memo dating back to 1973 where he claimed the film was about "A large technological empire going after a small group of freedom fighters." It is also to be noted that this was not the first time he voiced support for the Vietcong as well as used film to push an anti-American/anti-War agenda, as he also initially played a role in the filming of ''Apocalypse Now''<ref>http://nypost.com/2014/09/21/how-star-wars-was-secretly-george-lucas-protest-of-vietnam/</ref>), and the re-release for ''Episode IV: A New Hope'' also had an infamous edit where it made it seem as though Greedo shot at Han first, with George Lucas later revealing he did the edit (or rather, falsely claimed it was always that way) as a means to promote gun control. Regarding the pro-Vietcong sentiment being pushed in ''Return of the Jedi'', former president [[Richard Nixon]] in his 1985 book ''No More Vietnams'' cited ''Return of the Jedi'' as ultimately one reason why America, at least by that time, had initially felt so guilty of their strength that they were unwilling to use it even to defend their freedom and that of others.<ref>''No More Vietnams'' by Richard Nixon, 1985 Chapter 1: The assertion that our very bigness is badness has infested our culture to a surprising degree. The creator of the phenomenally successful Star Wars series recently explained that the climactic scene in one of his moves - in which the evil “Empire’s” giant war machines are destroyed by fuzzy little good guys with wooden bows and arrows - was inspired by the Vietnam experience. No matter that in Vietnam the Communist “good guys” packed Soviet automatic rifles and, in 1975, rode state-of-the-art Russian tanks across the South Vietnamese border. The propaganda of disproportionate forces in Vietnam, the myth of small/good versus big/bad, did enough damage to help lose the war for the United States and the people of South Vietnam. Today it is one symptom of the Vietnam syndrome to the extent that it makes Americans ashamed of their power, guilty about being strong, and forgetful about the need to be willing to use their power to protect their freedom and the freedom of others.</ref>

The prequel trilogy also had some implied pot-shots at then-president George W. Bush and his War on Terror, and there was also an implied promotion of moral relativity in ''Revenge of the Sith'' (where Obi-Wan, when confronting Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader in the climax, stated in reply to Anakin's declaration that Obi-Wan is his enemy if he's not with him that "only a Sith deals in absolutes."). A similar promotion of moral relativity and postmodernism was shown in ''Return of the Jedi'' where Obi-Wan admitted that his claim that Vader killed Anakin Skywalker was "true from a certain point of view," as well as further elaborating his claim by stating that "[[Subjectivism|a great many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.]]" The same movie's ending also carries an implicit promotion of cannibalism. In addition, the Trade Federation and its motives in ''The Phantom Menace'' was crafted by George Lucas to be a negative response to the Republican Revolution of 1994, and in particular Newt Gingrich's Contract with America (with Gingrich himself being a partial namesake of the main villain, Viceroy Nute Gunray). ''Attack of the Clones'' and to a lesser extent ''Revenge of the Sith'' also had very blatant anti-war themes and a very negative portrayal of the military, as a large part of the plot involved creating a military for the republic (and in the case of ''Revenge of the Sith'', the near end of the Clone Wars), with the narrative strongly implying that even forming a military at all was somehow a threat to freedom. To a lesser extent, the Prequel trilogy also has a negative depiction of family values, since it's implied that even holding attachments to family or trying to start a family leads directly to turning to the Dark Side, with Yoda even stating that such acted as "the shadow of greed." Lucas, in an interview with Time Magazine, also made similar jabs on family when explaining Anakin's character arc and his eventually becoming Darth Vader, where he said "Because he [Anakin Skywalker] gets attached to things...He can't let go of his mother...his girlfriend...things. It makes you greedy. And when you're greedy, you are on the path to the dark side because you fear that you're going to lose things. You fear you're not going to have the power you need."<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20020923140712/http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=15712</ref>

In addition, the director for ''Episode VII: The Force Awakens'', [[J.J. Abrams]], admitted in a press release that he deliberately made Finn black in order to ensure diversity among the characters, hinting at it pushing the leftist [[diversity]] agenda.<ref>https://www.cnet.com/news/director-j-j-abrams-weighs-in-on-diversity-in-the-star-wars-universe/?_escaped_fragment_=#! Two audience members jointly asked Abrams whether -- given his track record of helping build a diverse cast as director of the "Star Trek" reboot films -- he could confirm if there will be more Asian characters in the Star Wars universe. Asian characters are few and far between in the Star Wars franchise -- one appears in the original trilogy's last film, ''Return of the Jedi'', but for only four seconds before dying in a fiery explosion. Abrams said that while he won't be casting future films in the franchise, because he's directing only ''Episode VII'', he did include Asian characters in ''The Force Awakens'', which opened December 18. "I think it's important people see themselves represented in film," Abrams said. "I think it's not a small thing."</ref> Also, the film also hints at a militant [[feminist]] agenda by having Leia act as general and Rey not allowing anyone to save her, something that conservative commentator John Nolte mentioned was a detraction for the film.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/12/17/star-wars-the-force-awakens-review-j-j-abrams-repents-for-the-sins-of-george-lucas/</ref> In addition, the ending award ceremony in ''A New Hope'' was deliberately modeled after the stadium scene from the infamous Nazi movie propaganda ''The Triumph of the Will''. Ian McDiarmid, the actor who played the saga's main villain [[Emperor Palpatine]], had also implied in an interview with ''The Guardian'' around the time ''Revenge of the Sith'' was released that George Lucas had deliberately made the films for primarily eight-year olds specifically to indoctrinate them into Lucas' leftist view of the world.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/nov/07/theatre1 He [McDiarmid] also bristles at the notion that the Star Wars films are totally hollow entertainments. "I remember when I sat there in the Evil Emperor's swivel chair and George [Lucas] said things like 'does it remind you of the Oval office?' And I realised that at that time Richard Nixon was in his mind. 

"And I see that in the Guardian's review of the DVD - not favourable, of course - mention is made of the fact that there are lines that sound really contemporary. But the reviewer decided that was by chance: no, no, no, no. Entirely by design. 

"George knew that eight-year-olds, for whom these films are primarily intended, are very impressionable, and he wanted to make the right impression. So the whole film is about the unnecessary rise of fascism. In other words: watch out, they're all after your freedom, particularly when they're talking about defending freedom. Without getting over-extended about it, that is at the heart of these movies."</ref>

[[Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi]] also received strong criticism for its apparent 'SJW' bias<ref>Toto, Christian (December 19, 2017). [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/19/last-jedi-critics-mostly-conservative/ As ‘Star Wars’ fans cheer, conservative film critics point out problems with ‘Last Jedi’]. ''The Washington Times''. Retrieved December 20, 2017.</ref> It is also speculated that the leftist POV pushing caused fans to boycott the 2018 film [[Solo: A Star Wars Story]].<ref>https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/967205/Star-Wars-Han-Solo-FLOP-Last-Jedi-fan-BACKLASH-boycott-box-office-cast-sequel-cameo</ref>
|$460,998,007
|-
|''Starship Troopers''
|1997
|R
|Although it overall depicts the Military in a protagonistic light and arguably is pro-war and pro-military, the director of the film, Paul Verhoeven, implied it was actually supposed to push an anti-military, anti-war message where it implied that America during the Cold War were automatically fascists simply because they are entering war, and specifically stated it was "a natural evolution for post-World War II America." In addition, to reinforce Verhoeven's message, he deliberately modeled various scenes after ''Triumph of the Will'' and other pro-Nazi propaganda scenes, as well as modeled the protagonists' uniforms after the uniforms utilized by the Nazis (i.e., the character Carl, played by Neil Patrick Harris, wearing a uniform that was modeled after the [[SS]]). When asked by Michael Ironside, who was one of the people who had a role in the movie and had read the original book, about why he made the movie despite Verhoeven's leftist politics, he answered "If I tell the world that a right-wing, fascist way of doing things doesn't work, no one will listen to me. So I'm going to make a perfect fascist world: everyone is beautiful, everything is shiny, everything has big guns and fancy ships, but it's only good for killing ******* bugs!" (note that fascism is not "right wing", it is left wing, so Verhoeven's incorrect regarding which wing the Nazis/fascists were part of).
|$54,814,377
|-
|''Sudden Death''
|1995
|R
|Disgraced fire fighter now becomes a laughingstock fire marshal uncovers an terrorist plot at a Hockey game plans to redeem himself and protect his children and the Vice President from said terrorists. However they're not Islamic, which may have been because the film was trying to be politically correct.
|$20,350,171
|-
|''Super''
|2010
|R
|A short-order cook becomes a superhero after a vision from God. He frequently turns to prayer and a Christian television show for guidance. Even though his wife leaves him for a drug dealer, he remains loyal to her for the whole picture. At the same time, foul language, violence, and brief nudity scenes are included.
|$327,716
|-
|''Team America: World Police''
|2004
|R
|While it is clearly pro-military, pro-America, and anti-Hollywood, the movie is riddled with liberal values, including toilet humor and vulgar language throughout. The movie's foul-mouthed theme song favors abortion, slavery, pornography, and Democrats, while having no positive reaction to Republicans, which makes sense because the screenplay was written by the creators of ''[[South Park]]'' and ''The Book of Mormon''.
|$32,786,074
|-
|''[[Titanic]]''
|1997
|PG-13
|Every life has value, and the most powerful men give up their seats on lifeboats to women and children first, while the media and a young [[RINO]] are rightly criticized. The film broke the record in movie revenues before the environmentalist nightmare that was ''Avatar''. However, ''Titanic'' gives some hints at a pro-socialist view, and a key scene involving Rose being drawn in the nude is evocative of pornography.
|$600,779,824
|-
|''[[Trainspotting]]''
|1996
|R
|It's been debatable if the film is anti-drug.
|$16,491,080
|-
|''U-571''
|2000
|PG-13
|Had a plot which was based on the first capture of a [[German]] [[Enigma machine]] in [[World War Two]]. Despite the film being patriotic to America, the facts are wrong as the Enigma machine was captured by the [[British]] in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.
|$77,122,415
|-
|''The Twilight Saga''
|2008-2012
|PG-13
|Starred by anti-military liberal [[Kristen Stewart]] and glorifies [[vampire|vampires]], but it also makes fun of [[public school culture]] and [[modernism]] while promoting [[abstinence]] until marriage, traditional courtship and marriage, and the [[pro-life]] movement. It was written by a [[Mormon]].
|$1,365,922,346
|-
|''Van Helsing''
|2004
|PG-13
|Thanks to [[Hollywood values]], Van Helsing isn't portrayed as the Christian character he should be, but the film still gets its good vs. evil message across. As well as portraying the Catholic church in a positive light. The director Stephen Sommers has made conservative films ''The Mummy Returns'' and ''G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra'' though.
|$120,177,084<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=vanhelsing.htm</ref>
|-
|''Wall-E''
|2008
|G
|The movie shows the dangers of big government (BNL), however it is also anti-capitalist and pro-environmentalism as BNL is a corporation.
|$223,808,164
|-
|''The Way We Were''
|1973
|PG
|Unique in the way that it appears liberal to liberals while unintentionally sending a [[conservative]] message to young women. Stars uber-liberal [[Barbra Streisand]].
|$49,919,870
|-
|''We're the Millers''
|2013
|R
|A drug dealer, stripper, runaway, and average loser pretend to be a family to sneak marijuana out of Mexico. However they learn the value and importance of family. The villains of the movie are all drug gang men, the film also features a stripper scene, and whether or not the film is anti-drug in the end is debatable.
|$150,394,119
|-
|''Yours Mine and Ours''
|2005
|PG
|The widower father of a conservative family marries a widowed mother of a liberal family. Their two difference lifestyles contradict with each other, and the film does not really decide whose lifestyle is better. On the one hand, at one point, the liberal children fool the conservative children into thinking there is a house fire, so they can have the bathrooms for themselves. On the other hand, the children work together in another scene and use conservative tactics to end bullying without the help of an authority figure. In the end, the children learn to put their differences aside and realize that family is what matters more.
|$53,412,862
|}

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==References==
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==See also==
* [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies]]
* [[Essay:Worst Liberal TV Shows]]

[[Category:Essays about Liberals]]
[[Category:Cinema]]
[[Category:Hollywood]]
[[Category:Worst Liberal Movies]]
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User talk:DouglasA

2019-04-24T19:55:47Z

DouglasA: /* Robocop */

== Hi (I'm not sure what to call this section) ==

I have been a CP editor since 2017 and I see that you became inactive on this site since 2015 and have become active again. I've tried my best to bring useful and conservative content to this site, but some of the edits I've seen in your edit history have made me nervous. I've developed a rapport with several admins/sysops on this site, but I have gotten the impression that you may be more strict than they are. I am attempting to be diplomatic and polite but also honest [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 22:27, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
:It's a pleasure to meet you. I've always believed in the approach 'move forward with what you think is right, and when your colleagues disagree, come to a consensus.' [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] ([[User talk:DouglasA|talk]]) 06:17, 20 April 2019 (EDT)
::I notice that you're big about Christian-friendly content, take a look at some of the essays that I've created, especially [[Essay:Virtue: Christian vs secular]] and [[Essay:Counter-cultural Christianity]]. The point of these was to show how people who hold fast to Christian values. I am dismayed at the fact that I haven't picked up contributors like all of the "greatest conservative..." and "worst liberal..." essays. I'm not sure what you think about Christian rock, but in my songs list, I've tried to point out the Christian songs that run very counter to the very anti-Christian messages in mainstream music, which is surprisingly difficult as many Christian Rock and CCM artists avoid subject matter that could be uncomfortable. But when they do address those issues, the message really shines. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 12:44, 20 April 2019 (EDT)

== Robocop ==

I don't know if this is relevant or not, but Paul Verhoeven is a member of the Liberal "Jesus Seminar" and I think that played a role in why the movie is "Also a grotesque parody of Christ's resurrection." Since I knew it was hailed as a classic and a pop-culture icon, I wanted to see it for curiosity, and was so appalled by it's blatantly liberal, ham-fisted, anti-capitalism message. I got even angrier when I saw interviews the creators condemning capitalism when capitalism made them rich. Does it really depict cops as bad though? The cop characters who are most prominent in the movie, Alex Murphy (the guy who becomes Robocop), his partner Anne Lewis, and the sergeant Warren Reed were characters who actually believed in doing what cops should do. To quote the Robocop wiki about Reed: "To him, a police officer was not merely doing a job - they were a vital staple of society, the face of civilized society, representing the people, the restraint and the triumph of law over lawlessness." The real problem is that it depicts the Detroit Police Department as being owned by OCP, promoting the liberal myth that corporations control the government when in reality it's the government that has too much control over private business. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 00:49, 21 April 2019 (EDT)
:I had no idea that Verhoeven was in the Jesus Seminar. Doesn't give you much faith in that group's credentials, does it?! [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] ([[User talk:DouglasA|talk]]) 15:55, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

User talk:DouglasA

2019-04-20T10:17:57Z

DouglasA: /* Hi (I'm not sure what to call this section) */

Python (programming language)

2019-04-19T20:12:47Z

DouglasA:

Python redirects here. For other uses, see [[Python (disambiguation)]]
[[Image:Python-logo.gif|right|thumb|Python logo|400px]]
'''Python''' is a high-level programming language created by Guido van Rossum in 1991. It is a multi-paradigm language with a fully dynamic type system and automatic garbage collection.

Python 2.7 will reach end-of-life at the end of 2019.<ref>{{cite web | url=https://python3statement.org/ | title = Moving to require Python 3}}</ref>

The most popular implementation of Python is the CPython implementation maintained by the Python Software Foundation. Currently developed under an [[open source]] model and licensed under its own Python Software Foundation License, CPython is a byte-code interpreter that comes with a rich library that includes modules for creating graphical user interface, relational database, arbitrary precision arithmetic, complex arithmetic, unit testing, regular expression, XML parsing, C/C++ interfacing and zip compression; combined, these features makes it a powerful glue language between lower-level machine languages and higher level languages and programs.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://python.org/about/ | title= About Python | work=Python Software Foundation }}</ref> In addition to the built-in libraries, python is extended by a multitude of third party packages, many of which are open source that provide features not available in the python proper. For example, the twin packages scipy<ref>{{cite web|url = http://www.scipy.org/ | title = Scipy | work = Enthought}}</ref> and numpy<ref>{{cite web|url=http://numpy.scipy.org/ |title = Numpy|work=Enthought}}</ref> extend python with a large collection of functions for scientific work and numerical analysis giving python powered applications access to optimized algorithms and high level math functions that rivals that of leading proprietary software packages like [[Mathematica]] and [[Matlab]]. Other third party packages allow programmers to write fully featured [[GUI]]<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro| title = PyQt}}</ref> and 3D<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.panda3d.org/| title = Panda3D}}</ref> applications.

Other popular Python implementations include [[Jython]], written in [[Java]], and [[IronPython]], for [[Microsoft]]'s [[.Net framework|.NET framework]].

== Hello World ==
An example program often used for languages is something that displays "Hello, World!".
print 'Hello, World!'

==See also==
*[http://www.python.org/ Python Software Foundation]
*[http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython IronPython]

[[Category:Computers]]
[[Category:Computer Programming]]
[[Category:Computer Science]]
[[Category:Programming Languages]]
[[Category:Scripting Languages]]

==References==
<references/>

Python (programming language)

2019-04-19T18:26:30Z

DouglasA:

Python redirects here. For other uses, see [[Python (disambiguation)]]
[[Image:Python-logo.gif|right|thumb|Python logo|400px]]
'''Python''' is a high-level programming language created by Guido van Rossum in 1991. It is a multi-paradigm language with a fully dynamic type system and automatic garbage collection.

Python 2.7 will reach end-of-life at the end of 2019.

The most popular implementation of Python is the CPython implementation maintained by the Python Software Foundation. Currently developed under an [[open source]] model and licensed under its own Python Software Foundation License, CPython is a byte-code interpreter that comes with a rich library that includes modules for creating graphical user interface, relational database, arbitrary precision arithmetic, complex arithmetic, unit testing, regular expression, XML parsing, C/C++ interfacing and zip compression; combined, these features makes it a powerful glue language between lower-level machine languages and higher level languages and programs.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://python.org/about/ | title= About Python | work=Python Software Foundation }}</ref> In addition to the built-in libraries, python is extended by a multitude of third party packages, many of which are open source that provide features not available in the python proper. For example, the twin packages scipy<ref>{{cite web|url = http://www.scipy.org/ | title = Scipy | work = Enthought}}</ref> and numpy<ref>{{cite web|url=http://numpy.scipy.org/ |title = Numpy|work=Enthought}}</ref> extend python with a large collection of functions for scientific work and numerical analysis giving python powered applications access to optimized algorithms and high level math functions that rivals that of leading proprietary software packages like [[Mathematica]] and [[Matlab]]. Other third party packages allow programmers to write fully featured [[GUI]]<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.riverbankcomputing.co.uk/software/pyqt/intro| title = PyQt}}</ref> and 3D<ref>{{cite web| url=http://www.panda3d.org/| title = Panda3D}}</ref> applications.

Other popular Python implementations include [[Jython]], written in [[Java]], and [[IronPython]], for [[Microsoft]]'s [[.Net framework|.NET framework]].

== Hello World ==
An example program often used for languages is something that displays "Hello, World!".
print 'Hello, World!'

==See also==
*[http://www.python.org/ Python Software Foundation]
*[http://www.codeplex.com/Wiki/View.aspx?ProjectName=IronPython IronPython]

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[[Category:Computer Programming]]
[[Category:Computer Science]]
[[Category:Programming Languages]]
[[Category:Scripting Languages]]

==References==
<references/>

Non-Violent Video Games

2019-04-19T18:13:15Z

DouglasA: Just because you can play a MGS non-violently doesn't make it non-violent. Not family-friendly. Lots of promiscuity in those games.

'''Non-Violent Video Games''' are [[video games]] that are not [[violent video games|violent]], and can help educate and entertain children in a safe, [[family-friendly]] manner. Ratings are usually useful for determining if a game is family-friendly, but this doesn't always work better than actually knowing the game, as some games may contain elements not taken in consideration when rated or may simply lack educational value. Examples of [[non-violent video games]] include:

*[[Tetris]] - the player requires quick-thinking skills to align falling blocks in order to obtain points.

*[[Mario|Mario series]] - all the games from the Mario series are family friendly and the types of games vary widely, examples are sports games, party games or traditionally platform games. Some games require mental or physical dexterity, strategy, etc.

*[[Madden]] - players can draft football teams and create their own defensive and offensive playbooks, helping children to learn strategy and quick-thinking skills.

*[[Adventures of Lolo]] - players assume the role of Lolo and rescue the kidnapped Princess Lulu. Players guide Lolo through a series of puzzles.

*[[SimCity]] - the player assumes the role of a city's mayor, which he must help grow. It teaches children organization, direction and problem-solving. There are other "Sim" games, ranging from managing a simple ant colony (SimAnt) to a whole planet (SimLife).

*[[Sonic the Hedgehog]] - the player controls Sonic and must frequently use his dexterity and reasoning to navigate through obstacles.

*[[The Bible Game]] - a [[Christian]]-themed party game with trivia questions related to the [[Bible]]

*[[Kirby]] series - a family-friendly and easy to play platform game where the player must use his reasoning to solve puzzles, usually involving obtaining special powers from enemies. The series also includes puzzle games (Kirby's Star Stacker), a Breakout clone (Kirby's Block Ball), and various others.

*[[Pac-Man]] - the player must guide himself through a labyrinth in order to collect pills with at the same time using his mental dexterity to avoid ghosts chasing him.

==Indirect Violence==
It should be noted that in some games, especially platform games, that player controlled characters can die by falling into holes or on spikes, common in Mario and Sonic games. Also, these games feature "boss battles" where a player must defeat an opponent, usually through physical means, such as jumping on the boss's head.

Party games, however, are usually non-violent, but may require parental review.

==External links==
*[http://www.plaingames.com/ Plain Games].
*[http://www.familyfriendlygaming.com/ Family Friendly Gaming].
*[http://www.ccgr.org/links/christian-gaming.html Christ Centered Game Reviews].

==See also==
*[[Violent video games]]

[[Category:Video Games]]

Jacob Rees-Mogg

2019-04-19T18:06:25Z

DouglasA:

[[File:Official portrait of Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg.jpg|thumb|250px|Jacob Rees-Mogg]]
'''Jacob Rees-Mogg''' (born 24 May 1969) is a [[conservative]] [[catholic]] [[United Kingdom|British]] politician who sits in the [[House of Commons]]. Rees-Mogg is a member of the [[Conservative Party]], but unlike many members of the party, he takes conservative positions comprehensively, including social issues.

Rees-Mog was first elected to the House of Commons in 2010, although he ran twice before.<ref>[https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/jacob-rees-mogg/4099 Mr Jacob Rees-Mogg MP]. ''Parliament''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref> In 2017, Rees-Mogg was chosen to lead the European Research Group, a group of pro-Brexit Tory MPs.<ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/01/16/city-jacob-rees-mogg-lead-pro-brexit-group-mps/ City AM: Jacob Rees-Mogg to lead pro-Brexit group of MPs]. ''Breitbart News''. January 16, 2018. Retrieved January 17, 2018.</ref>

Rees-Mog strongly supports a "hard" [[Brexit]] and strongly opposes "remain" advocates and "soft" Brexit advocates.<ref>Maidment, Jack (October 3, 2017). [https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/03/jacob-rees-mogg-compares-brexit-battles-agincourt-waterloo-trafalgar/ Jacob Rees-Mogg compares Brexit to battles of Agincourt, Waterloo and Trafalgar]. ''The Daily Telegraph''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref><ref>Elgot, Jessica (October 4, 2017). [https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/04/moggmentum-behind-jacob-rees-mogg-stirs-activists-tory-conservative-party-conference ‘Moggmentum’ behind Rees-Mogg stirs activists at Tory conference]. ''The Guardian''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref><ref>Friedman, Victoria (September 23, 2017). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/23/jacob-rees-mogg-draws-red-line-demands-may-clarify-european-court-jurisdiction/ Jacob Rees-Mogg Draws ‘Red Line’, Demands May Clarifies European Court Jurisdiction During Transition]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref><ref>Hale, Virginia (July 10, 2017). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/07/10/rees-mogg-remoanerism-colonialist-brexit/ Jacob Rees-Mogg Blasts ‘Remoanerism’, Attacks EU’s ‘Colonialist Approach’ to Brexit Talks]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref><ref>Malloch, Ted (August 6, 2017). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/06/malloch-friendly-letter-british-cousins/ MALLOCH: Jacob Rees-Mogg Is Britain’s Best Hope For Clean Brexit]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref> He opposes [[abortion]] and [[same-sex "marriage"]].<ref>Friedman, Victoria (September 6, 2017). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/09/06/jacob-rees-mogg-breaks-uk-political-taboo-announces-opposition-abortion-gay-marriage/ Jacob Rees-Mogg Breaks UK Political Taboos: Announces Opposition to Abortion, Gay Marriage]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved September 6, 2017.</ref> He supports [[free speech]].<ref>Rogan, Tom (March 6, 2018). [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/british-lawmaker-jacob-rees-mogg-just-nuked-anti-free-speech-legislators/article/2650819 British lawmaker Jacob Rees-Mogg just nuked anti-free speech legislators]. ''Washington Examiner''. Retrieved March 6, 2018.</ref> Rees-Mogg has been compared to U.S. President [[Donald Trump]].<ref>Deacon, Liam (August 13, 2017). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/13/english-version-donald-trump-rees-mogg-considers-tory-leadership-bid/ Claim: ‘English Version of Donald Trump’ Rees-Mogg Considers Tory Leadership Bid]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved October 4, 2017.</ref>

Despite this, Rees-Mogg has caved to the Left and adopted certain left-wing positions, including criticizing a famous speech made by [[Enoch Powell]] criticizing mass migration, despite [[European migrant crisis|much of it coming true]].<ref>Kassam, Raheem (April 14, 2018). [https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/04/14/jacob-rees-mogg-betrays-fans-opposing-enoch-powells-famous-speech/ Jacob Rees-Mogg Betrays Fans By Opposing Enoch Powell’s Famous Speech]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved April 15, 2018.</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[https://www.parliament.uk/biographies/commons/jacob-rees-mogg/4099 Profile] at ''parliament.uk''

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Daniel (Translated)

2019-04-19T18:02:44Z

DouglasA:

{{ConservativeBible}}

==Chapter 1==

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|In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah came Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.
|During Jehoiakim's third year ruling as king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, attacked Jerusalem.
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|And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels of the house of God: which he carried into the land of Shinar to the house of his god; and he brought the vessels into the treasure house of his god.
|The Lord gave him Jehoiakim, the king of Judah. He also gave him containers from his house, which Nebuchadnezzar carried to his idol's shrine in Shinar. He put the containers in his idol's treasury.
|Clarify the difference between God and 'gods' which are actually just idols.
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|And the king spake unto Ashpenaz the master of his eunuchs, that he should bring certain of the children of Israel, and of the king's seed, and of the princes;
|The king told his eunuch master, Ashpenaz, to bring particular Israelites, including the king's children and princes.
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|Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
|These children were perfect: smart, clever, adept in science. They were capable of standing in the king's palace and could be taught the Chaldean language and culture.
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|And the king appointed them a daily provision of the king's meat, and of the wine which he drank: so nourishing them three years, that at the end thereof they might stand before the king.
|The king gave them some of his daily wine and meat. After feeding them for three years, they were able to stand in front of the king.
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|Now among these were of the children of Judah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah:
|Included in the group were children of Judah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
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|Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael, of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abed-nego.
|and the eunuch prince gave them names. He called Daniel Belteshazzar, he called Hananiah Shadrach, he called Mishael Meshach, and he called Azariah Abed-nego.
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|But Daniel purposed in his heart that he would not defile himself with the portion of the king's meat, nor with the wine which he drank: therefore he requested of the prince of the eunuchs that he might not defile himself.
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|Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.
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|And the prince of the eunuchs said unto Daniel, I fear my lord the king, who hath appointed your meat and your drink: for why should he see your faces worse liking than the children which are of your sort? then shall ye make me endanger my head to the king.
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|Then said Daniel to Melzar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had set over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
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|Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink.
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|Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
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|So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days.
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|And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.
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|Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.
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|As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.
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|Now at the end of the days that the king had said he should bring them in, then the prince of the eunuchs brought them in before Nebuchadnezzar.
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|And the king communed with them; and among them all was found none like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah: therefore stood they before the king.
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|And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.
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|And Daniel continued even unto the first year of king Cyrus.
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==Chapter 2==

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|And in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams, wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep brake from him.
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|Then the king commanded to call the magicians, and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So they came and stood before the king.
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|And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.
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|Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack, O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the dream, and we will shew the interpretation.
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|The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known unto me the dream, with the interpretation thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your houses shall be made a dunghill.
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|But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the dream, and the interpretation thereof.
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|They answered again and said, Let the king tell his servants the dream, and we will shew the interpretation of it.
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|The king answered and said, I know of certainty that ye would gain the time, because ye see the thing is gone from me.
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|But if ye will not make known unto me the dream, there is but one decree for you: for ye have prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me the interpretation thereof.
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|The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king's matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.
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|And it is a rare thing that the king requireth, and there is none other that can shew it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh.
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|For this cause the king was angry and very furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise men of Babylon.
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|And the decree went forth that the wise men should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his fellows to be slain.
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|Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:
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|He answered and said to Arioch the king's captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel.
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|Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation.
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|Then Daniel went to his house, and made the thing known to Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah, his companions:
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|That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
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|Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.
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|Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
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|And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
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|He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
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|I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the king's matter.
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|Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the king had ordained to destroy the wise men of Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before the king, and I will shew unto the king the interpretation.
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|Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in haste and said thus unto him, I have found a man of the captives of Judah, that will make known unto the king the interpretation.
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|The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known unto me the dream which I have seen, and the interpretation thereof?
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|Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;
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|But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;
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|As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh known to thee what shall come to pass.
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|But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.
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|Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
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|This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
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|His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
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|Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
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|Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
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|This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
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|Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
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|And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
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|And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
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|And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
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|And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
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|And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
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|And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
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|And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
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|Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
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|Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.
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|The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
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|Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
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|Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel sat in the gate of the king.
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==Chapter 3==

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|Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellers, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
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|Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellers, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
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|Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages,
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|That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
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|And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
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|Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
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|Wherefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and accused the Jews.
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|They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live for ever.
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|Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:
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|And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
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|There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego. Then they brought these men before the king.
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|Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
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|Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
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|Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
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|If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
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|But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
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|Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.
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|And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
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|Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
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|Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego.
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|And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.
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|He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
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|And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellers, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
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|Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.
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|Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, in the province of Babylon.
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==Chapter 4==

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|Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
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|I thought it good to shew the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me.
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|How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.
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|I Nebuchadnezzar was at rest in mine house, and flourishing in my palace:
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|I saw a dream which made me afraid, and the thoughts upon my bed and the visions of my head troubled me.
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|Therefore made I a decree to bring in all the wise men of Babylon before me, that they might make known unto me the interpretation of the dream.
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|Then came in the magicians, the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers: and I told the dream before them; but they did not make known unto me the interpretation thereof.
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|But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying,
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|O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.
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|Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
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|The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:
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|The leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it.
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|I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;
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|He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:
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|Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:
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|Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.
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|This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
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|This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.
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|Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonied for one hour, and his thoughts troubled him. The king spake, and said, Belteshazzar, let not the dream, or the interpretation thereof, trouble thee. Belteshazzar answered and said, My lord, the dream be to them that hate thee, and the interpretation thereof to thine enemies.
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|The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
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|Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
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|It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
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|And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;
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|This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king:
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|That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
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|And whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known that the heavens do rule.
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|Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.
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|All this came upon the king Nebuchadnezzar.
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|At the end of twelve months he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon.
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|The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty?
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|While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee.
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|And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
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|The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws.
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|And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
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|And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
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|At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellers and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me.
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|Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
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==Chapter 5==

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|Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand.
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|Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem; that the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink therein.
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|Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them.
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|They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone.
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|In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.
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|Then the king's countenance was changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and his knees smote one against another.
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|The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spake, and said to the wise men of Babylon, Whosoever shall read this writing, and shew me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck, and shall be the third ruler in the kingdom.
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|Then came in all the king's wise men: but they could not read the writing, nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof.
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|Then was king Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in him, and his lords were astonied.
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|Now the queen, by reason of the words of the king and his lords, came into the banquet house: and the queen spake and said, O king, live for ever: let not thy thoughts trouble thee, nor let thy countenance be changed:
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|There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers;
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|Forasmuch as an excellent spirit, and knowledge, and understanding, interpreting of dreams, and shewing of hard sentences, and dissolving of doubts, were found in the same Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar: now let Daniel be called, and he will shew the interpretation.
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|Then was Daniel brought in before the king. And the king spake and said unto Daniel, Art thou that Daniel, which art of the children of the captivity of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of Jewry?
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|I have even heard of thee, that the spirit of the gods is in thee, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee.
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|And now the wise men, the astrologers, have been brought in before me, that they should read this writing, and make known unto me the interpretation thereof: but they could not shew the interpretation of the thing:
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|And I have heard of thee, that thou canst make interpretations, and dissolve doubts: now if thou canst read the writing, and make known to me the interpretation thereof, thou shalt be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about thy neck, and shalt be the third ruler in the kingdom.
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|Then Daniel answered and said before the king, Let thy gifts be to thyself, and give thy rewards to another; yet I will read the writing unto the king, and make known to him the interpretation.
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|O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour:
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|And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down.
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|But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:
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|And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.
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|And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this;
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|But hast lifted up thyself against the LORD of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:
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|Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
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|And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.
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|This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.
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|TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
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|PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.
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|Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom.
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|In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.
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|And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
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==Chapter 6==

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|It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;
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|And over these three presidents; of whom Daniel was first: that the princes might give accounts unto them, and the king should have no damage.
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|Then this Daniel was preferred above the presidents and princes, because an excellent spirit was in him; and the king thought to set him over the whole realm.
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|Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.
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|Then said these men, We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel, except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.
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|Then these presidents and princes assembled together to the king, and said thus unto him, King Darius, live for ever.
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|All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, and the princes, the counsellers, and the captains, have consulted together to establish a royal statute, and to make a firm decree, that whosoever shall ask a petition of any God or man for thirty days, save of thee, O king, he shall be cast into the den of lions.
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|Now, O king, establish the decree, and sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.
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|Wherefore king Darius signed the writing and the decree.
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|Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime.
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|Then these men assembled, and found Daniel praying and making supplication before his God.
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|Then they came near, and spake before the king concerning the king's decree; Hast thou not signed a decree, that every man that shall ask a petition of any God or man within thirty days, save of thee, O king, shall be cast into the den of lions? The king answered and said, The thing is true, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.
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|Then answered they and said before the king, That Daniel, which is of the children of the captivity of Judah, regardeth not thee, O king, nor the decree that thou hast signed, but maketh his petition three times a day.
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|Then the king, when he heard these words, was sore displeased with himself, and set his heart on Daniel to deliver him: and he laboured till the going down of the sun to deliver him.
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|Then these men assembled unto the king, and said unto the king, Know, O king, that the law of the Medes and Persians is, That no decree nor statute which the king establisheth may be changed.
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|Then the king commanded, and they brought Daniel, and cast him into the den of lions. Now the king spake and said unto Daniel, Thy God whom thou servest continually, he will deliver thee.
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|And a stone was brought and laid upon the mouth of the den; and the king sealed it with his own signet, and with the signet of his lords; that the purpose might not be changed concerning Daniel.
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|Then the king went to his palace, and passed the night fasting: neither were instruments of musick brought before him: and his sleep went from him.
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|Then the king arose very early in the morning, and went in haste unto the den of lions.
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|And when he came to the den, he cried with a lamentable voice unto Daniel: and the king spake and said to Daniel, O Daniel, servant of the living God, is thy God, whom thou servest continually, able to deliver thee from the lions?
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|Then said Daniel unto the king, O king, live for ever.
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|My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.
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|Then was the king exceeding glad for him, and commanded that they should take Daniel up out of the den. So Daniel was taken up out of the den, and no manner of hurt was found upon him, because he believed in his God.
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|And the king commanded, and they brought those men which had accused Daniel, and they cast them into the den of lions, them, their children, and their wives; and the lions had the mastery of them, and brake all their bones in pieces or ever they came at the bottom of the den.
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|Then king Darius wrote unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
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|I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end.
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|He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth, who hath delivered Daniel from the power of the lions.
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|So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.
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==Chapter 7==

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|In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
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|Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
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|And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
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|The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
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|And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
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|After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
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|After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
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|I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
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|I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
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|A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
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|I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
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|As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
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|I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
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|And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
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|I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
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|I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
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|These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
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|But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
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|Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
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|And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
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|I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
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|Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
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|Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
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|And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
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|And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
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|But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
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|And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
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|Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.
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==Chapter 8==

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|In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
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|And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
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|Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
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|I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
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|And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
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|And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
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|And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
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|Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
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|And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
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|And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
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|Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
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|And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
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|Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
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|And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
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|And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
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|And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
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|So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
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|Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
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|And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
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|The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
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|And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
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|Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
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|And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
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|And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
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|And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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|And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
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|And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.
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==Chapter 9==

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|In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;
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|In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
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|And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplication, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
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|And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
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|We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments:
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|Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land.
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|O Lord, righteousness belongeth unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee.
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|O Lord, to us belongeth confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee.
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|To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;
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|Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.
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|Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
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|And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem.
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|As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
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|Therefore hath the LORD watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the LORD our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice.
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|And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; we have sinned, we have done wickedly.
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|O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, thy holy mountain: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us.
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|Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord's sake.
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|O my God, incline thine ear, and hear; open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city which is called by thy name: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousnesses, but for thy great mercies.
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|O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.
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|And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God;
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|Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
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|And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
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|At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
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|Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
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|Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
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|And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
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|And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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==Chapter 10==

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|In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
|In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a story was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the story was true, involving immense conflict: and he understood the story, and had understanding of the vision.
|translating "דָּבָר" as "thing" is not optimal; the [[ESV]] translates it as "word", and the [[NASB]] as "message". Closer to the original meaning in this context: translate "דָּבָר" as "story", not as "word" or "message".
 The third year of King Cyrus of Persia was 536 BC.
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|In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
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|I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
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|And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
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|Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
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|His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
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|And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
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|Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
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|Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
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|And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands.
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|And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
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|Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
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|But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
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|Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
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|And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
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|And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
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|For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
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|Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
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|And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
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|Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
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|But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
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==Chapter 11==

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|Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
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|And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
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|And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.
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|And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those.
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|And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.
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|And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.
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|But out of a branch of her roots shall one stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail:
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|And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.
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|So the king of the south shall come into his kingdom, and shall return into his own land.
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|But his sons shall be stirred up, and shall assemble a multitude of great forces: and one shall certainly come, and overflow, and pass through: then shall he return, and be stirred up, even to his fortress.
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|And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand.
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|And when he hath taken away the multitude, his heart shall be lifted up; and he shall cast down many ten thousands: but he shall not be strengthened by it.
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|For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches.
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|And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.
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|So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.
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|But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.
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|He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.
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|After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.
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|Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.
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|Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
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|And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
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|And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
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|And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
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|He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
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|And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
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|Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
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|And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
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|Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
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|At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
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|For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
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|And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
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|And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
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|And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
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|Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
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|And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
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|And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
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|Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
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|But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
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|Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
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|And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
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|He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
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|He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
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|But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
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|But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
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|And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
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==Chapter 12==

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|And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
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|And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
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|And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
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|But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
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|Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
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|And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
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|And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
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|And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
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|And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
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|Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
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|And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
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|Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
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2019-04-19T17:54:58Z

DouglasA: missed a heading!

{{welcome}}

Thanks for adding your edits, hopefully you'll become a regular contributor. If I can help you out with anything let me know. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 27 July 2016 (EDT)

:Thank you! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)

Account promoted to skip the Captcha requirement. Thanks for your enlightening edits to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]].

Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:37, 28 July 2016 (EDT)

:Thank you! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (EDT)
::Congratulations and welcome. You should be aware that people who edit at both CP and WP with the same user name are sometimes harrassed at WP as a result. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:11, 29 July 2016 (EDT)
:::Thank you for the welcome and thanks for the heads up! I've already received some heat on Wikipedia for taking some unpopular positions and opposing the bias there, so it will be nothing new for me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 29 July 2016 (EDT)

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I saw your helpful addition to the article on Murder of Seth Rich, so I thought I would visit your talk page. How long have you lasted on the WickedPedia? I would be surprised that you would last long there, as I have found the WickedPedia incredibly intolerant and censorious, a pseudo-aristocracy with dominating bullies, biased enough for me to consider it a candidate for the Big T award (T in the Calvinist TULIP); i.e, total depravity! LOL I don't think you can do much on Wikipedia without being part of a group of old boys or buddies who work together. ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (EDT))

:Did you mean my Wikipedia talk page? I have been editing Wikipedia for almost three years already. A big reason why I've lasted so long there is because many of the topics I edit are not particularly controversial. However, you are completely right in your description of Wikipedia. I have seen firsthand the massive (and very visible) intolerance and bias Wikipedia has against conservatives, Christians, and anything that contradicts secular and humanistic (pseudo)"scientific knowledge". I could probably write a book about all my criticisms of Wikipedia. I have been able to do some good work (I was able to bring the article "Electoral history of Ronald Reagan" to official "Good Article" status, and I created a few articles), but on other articles, like the Murder of Seth Rich, we cannot have much confidence on the quality and neutrality of those articles. I do applaud you, Thunkful2, for your excellent work on "Murder of Seth Rich". It's awesome that at least one person can accurately present this story! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:35, 23 August 2016 (EDT)

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I meant right here, this talk page -- I visited it after seeing your good edit. No, I haven't gone to your talk page on the WickedPedia. Thanks for the complement. ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:45, 24 August 2016 (EDT))

:OK, got it. And thanks for your complement. :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:50, 24 August 2016 (EDT)

== References from Wikipedia ==

While it's not really plagiarism to copy a reference from WP, it just want to point out that you probably shouldn't do so unless you have read that source, and believe that it supports what is being said. If you are reading the books you are referencing, that's fine--I just can't tell. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:33, 8 September 2016 (EDT)
:Oh, that's a good point. I actually did not read those books, I just wanted to cite something so I wouldn't be adding unsourced info to the article. Should I remove those references anyway? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

::It is a good idea to find references to support unsourced statements, but it is a little deceptive to cite something you haven't read. To be entirely beyond reproach, removal probably would be best. At this point though, I honestly don't know if I'd bother. In my opinion, it's up to you. No one else has said anything, so it might be okay to leave them, I'm just not sure. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:51, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

:::OK. I will do my own research and find other sources that I can use instead. However, it's getting late, so I will deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:58, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

== Account promoted ==

Your account has been promoted to include blocking and overnight editing capability. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:30, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

:Congratulations! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:57, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

::Well done! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:06, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

:::Thanks all! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:21, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

::::Excellent! you did good keeping an eye on that vandal yesterday. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

:::::Thanks, Progressingamerica, I appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:42, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

==Reading the WSJ==
Re: [[Christoph Blocher]]

Typically, when I want to read a WSJ article that requires subscriber sign in is to Google the headline and access the web page from a search engine instead of directly. Most of the time this requires a clean browser tab, sometimes it needs to be done in a different browser. Rarely, it requires a cookie clearing. Just thought that information may be of help. This even works with articles that are years old.

As a last resort, see if its in the internet archive.(though, most articles I don't want that bad to keep trying) But they're all good procedures to know. Sometimes works for other news sites too, besides WSJ. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2016 (EDT)

:Thanks for the tip! That's what I will do. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:32, 10 October 2016 (EDT)

== Account promoted ==

Your account has been promoted to include upload and rollback features. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
:Thanks! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
::Congratulations! Keep it up! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
:::Thanks David! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

== Move and unlock requests ==

You can post your move and unlock requests to [[User talk:Karajou]]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:30, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
:Thanks for the tip! It's getting late, so I will do that tomorrow. I appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
::You don't actually need any privileges to do a move. You can cut-and-paste from one lemma to another. For purposes of copyright law, the edit summaries must make it clear where the incoming material comes from. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:54, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

== Karajou blocked a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor. ==

People should not be judged in race on alleged sexuality. A proper critique of Karajou would be asking him about blocking a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor.--[[User:Rodgerr|Rodgerr]] ([[User talk:Rodgerr|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

:If you think you have been judged unfairly, you could have just emailed Karajou or webmaster@conservapedia.com (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member Accounts]]). However, more than once, you decided to take the low route, calling him filthy, immature words [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Karajou&diff=1283494&oldid=1283491]. See [[Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks]]. And why in the world did you do this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Coal_burning&curid=140922&diff=1283484&oldid=1283423] (for someone who apparently abhors Trump for the tape, your words seem just as bad) That, honestly, is shameful. I will note that the "Bringreaganback" account clearly violated [[Conservapedia:90/10 rule]]. Considering all this, it's quite clear you deserved the block. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

== Mainpageleft ==

In response to your good question about entries on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]], currently there are about 112 featured entries there, which are "reshuffled" periodically. Do you have any suggestions about how that "team" of entries be improved, with respect to insight, influence, popularity, interest level, educational value, etc.? It's a terrific mix of topics now but there is always room for improvement, particularly as the issues and interest in certain topics by the public inevitably shifts over time. Thanks much for any suggestions you may have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:46, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

:An example: "[[Underrated Sports Stars]]" is a solid entry, but should probably be replaced on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]]. Do you have any favored, influential, insightful, potentially or already popular entry that you like, which you would recommend to replace it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

::I do have a few suggestions. [[Murder of Seth Rich]] is probably the best suggestion, as it is very detailed and well sourced. Also, the Wikipedia article of the murder has been the victim of leftist bias (two times, within a month, editors have tried to delete the article, and with that failing, the article appears to have been stripped of much detail) which our article covers well. Other suggestions that I have are the [[Ark Encounter]] (a popular and influential attraction, and one that has been the victim of atheist and evolutionary bias, which the article covers), and [[Larry McDonald]] (a true patriot who stayed true to his principles, and his article actually covers the theories on his possible survival). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:22, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

== Account promoted again ==

Congratulations, your account has been promoted again, so that you can edit protected articles, and protect and unprotect articles. Very well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:05, 10 November 2016 (EST)
:Wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Schlafly! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:19, 10 November 2016 (EST)
::Congratulations! I've had some problems with the "protect" privilege, but I hope it works for you! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:35, 12 November 2016 (EST)
:::Thanks! I hope so too! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)
::::Congratulations on yet another promotion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)
:::::Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)

==Can't edit article==
Hi again, 1990'sguy, it's Ambassador. Is there any reason I can't edit the article on the [[Big Bang]]? To keep atheists from changing it, I suppose. If you have access to it, you might want to add the point about the Big Bang, due to planets and moons spinning backwards, contradicting the law of Conservation of angular momentum. Find out about it [http://www.creationwiki.org/Three_planets_and_several_moons_revolve_backwards_(Talk.Origins) here]. Thanks! [[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 19:56, 22 November 2016 (EST)
:Yes, the article is protected probably because of atheist/secularist/liberal vandalism. Unfortunately, I cannot edit it myself as I do not have full admin capabilities. I recommend asking an admin ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&username=&group=sysop&limit=100 list]) to unlock the article or add the information you want added. Or, you can go to [[Talk:Main Page|the main talk page]] and add your request there, where more people can see it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:08, 22 November 2016 (EST)

== Thank you! ==

Hello there, and thank you for editing the article on [[Islam and Christianity]]. --[[User:SWAJCAHL&S|SWAJCAHL&S]] ([[User talk:SWAJCAHL&S|talk]]) 09:13, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:No problem, and thank you for creating it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::And also thank you, for your help - and tips! - on [[Jared Kushner]]. I'll try to remember the ref's and cat's in the future. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 21:49, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:::Sounds great and you're welcome! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)

== Geocentric page ==

I added a bit on the talk page a while ago. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:15, 3 December 2016 (EST)
:Do you mean on the section "Ptolemy's view of a stationary earth"? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 3 December 2016 (EST)
::Sorry for the late reply but yes. It doesn't seemed to have created a new heading so I will add that now. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:11, 5 December 2016 (EST)
:::I removed it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 5 December 2016 (EST)

== This is a simple misunderstanding. Please be reasonable. ==

This is [[User:Amorrow]]. I had to dirty myself by creating a sockpuppet because you cut off every last channel of communication. The issues:
# SSN of dead people are release by the government of the USA. I made it clear that my father is dead. His name was William Knight Morrow. You can find his name and SSN, for instance, at [http://sortedbybirthdate.com/pages/19311104.html this page]. It is public, not private.
# You could have removed that link and let it go at that. I do not require notification of such actions. I do not care about that link very much. I put it there simply as a convenience.
Is the matter resolved? If so, then please unblock me or let me know here what remains unresolved.--[[User:Amorrow2|Amorrow2]] ([[User talk:Amorrow2|talk]]) 20:44, 3 December 2016 (EST)

:I am discussing the issue on [[User talk:DavidB4]]. You are welcome to join in. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:48, 3 December 2016 (EST)
::You are unblocked. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 3 December 2016 (EST)

Hello um 1990sguy Im not a spammer or troll I just want to edit this page so I can mod the Alexa device to read out conservapedia instead of wickedpedia.
:First off, you need talk page permission if you're going to make massive changes on one of CP's most important articles. I re-inserted some of your edits, but you need talk page permission to go further and change the article's very tone and point of view. Second, are you a sock of Amorrow? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::I am almost certainly not apart of this sock of amorrow, what is an Amorrow anyway 1990s?--[[User:Reevestehsnek|Reevestehsnek]] ([[User talk:Reevestehsnek|talk]] 14:58, 8 November 2018 (EST)
:::Amorrow is the user who started the discussion you're commenting in. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:04, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::::Reeves, if your going to troll, you need an upgrade. Don't be so amatuerish about it. Show us something new and witty so we can develop appropriate countermeasures. You're obviously not stupid. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 15:31, 8 November 2018 (EST)
:::::Not a Troll, just following guidelines to not start a new section unless it hasn't been posted--[[User:Reevestehsnek|Reevestehsnek]] ([[User talk:Reevestehsnek|talk]] 16:09, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::::::Like I am legit confused, During these last few Hours I get the feeling that you 1990s guy either think Im trying to wreck youre words or that I'm a troll. I also get the feeling that I am extremely unwelcome. Like is all this because I'm black. Because if that's the case Ill leave this site like real pronto.--[[User:Reevestehsnek|Reevestehsnek]] ([[User talk:Reevestehsnek|talk]] 16:26, 8 November 2018 (EST)
:::::::You're confusing me with RobS, who also commented right above. I did not accuse you of trolling. If you feel unwelcome, it's probably because you're new, and you are not familiar with CP's rules. Also, CP is an '''extremely''' high target of vandalism, so we act the same way for '''every''' new user to vet them. Your skin color (which nobody knows) has nothing to do with it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:58, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::::::::Also, we '''recommend''' that you make a new section on a talk page. We discourage commenting on a two-year-old section about a completely different topic. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2018 (EST)

==Pitch hitting==

Thanks for the ref [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&oldid=1293435]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 13:34, 18 December 2016 (EST)
:You're welcome. Always happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 18 December 2016 (EST)

==Trump==
You're not telling me it's just a coincidence, are you? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2016 (EST)

:Seriously? It is extremely unlikely that this passage, which is about the Second Coming of Christ, has anything to do with Donald Trump. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)
::Dang :( Thought I'd had my first ever conservative insight. Must be the morphine. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 23 December 2016 (EST)
:::I think this has more to do with biblical [[hermeneutics]] than conservatism. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:00, 23 December 2016 (EST)

== Merry Christmas ==

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Thank you for all your contributions to Conservaoedia as far your web article content.

Merry Christmas! And have a happy New Year's Day. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:37, 24 December 2016 (EST)

:Thank you very much, Conservative, and the same to you as well! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:43, 24 December 2016 (EST)

== [[St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre]] ==

I suggest doing the redirect in the opposite direction for two reasons. First, it preserves the history and visits to the pre-existing entry. Second, it leaves intact the "Saint" spelled out, which is a stronger and more effective title than the secularized abbreviation. I'd be happy to change the direction of the redirect, if you agree. Regardless, thanks for your efforts!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (EST)

:Yes please, Mr. Schlafly, that would be great if you would move it. Just as long as the article shows up as being created by me on the "New Pages" feed. I didn't know that this article already existed, but I worked hard on it and I think that my article is of higher quality by any objective measure. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)

==European immigration==
I was thinking of doing an article on the [[European immigration]] problem (don't want to call 'European immigration crisis', yet). Americans are woefully ignorant of what's happening in Europe, and we're looking at doing perhaps the biggest change in Immigration law since 1952. In Europe, whole new political parties have been spawned because of the establishment parties failure to deal with the problems. In 20 years, the German mi!itary may be majority Muslim which would impact the future of the NATO alliance. Better get started now in educating the American public on changing demographics and how this may affect America's role as a Superpower, assuming it still is by then.

Would you care to collaborate? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']] 01:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)

:Of course, I'll be happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)
::Do you think we should add a subsection under UK about Brexit and to what extent that was motivated by immigration? Also, I'd like to include something about the Schengen Agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']] 16:46, 29 December 2016 (EST)
:::Both of those are great ideas. The "freedom of movement" EU policy played a large part in the referendum and its aftermath. People are tired of unlimited immigration.
:::As for the Schengen area, people can go anywhere they want in Europe without worrying about border security (and before, it was quite tough crossing the border I've heard). The agreement is an essential part of the EU plan to reach full political unification. It really has nothing to do with economics. Also, criminals and terrorists can easily cross the border. The recent Berlin attacker was caught in Italy. He crossed at least two borders without being caught. Imagine if he tried doing that without the agreement. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:53, 29 December 2016 (EST)
:::::Same as most of suspects in 1200 reported sexual assault cases New Years Eve in Cologne. Something like only 7 or 22 arrests have ever been made, while most of the other identified suspects are reported to have fled the country.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']] 17:06, 29 December 2016 (EST)

== Father's SSN ==

I created [[Social Security Death Index]]. After I add some ref's, I hope that we can revisit the notion of me declaring what my father's SSN is.

Just to mention where I got this idea from, it is from the web site anusha.com . Sloan has lived an erratic and at times immoral life, but he is just below the level of genius in raw talent. I refer to him as an "accidental adventurer". Please see thermo4thermo.org/sam_sloan.html for some of his life-adventures.
I am not promoting his lifestyle, but he is my publisher for my upcoming book. His web site is a mess. It has about 3000 pages but just a mess of cross-references. The home page is very, very long. You can look at pages like www.anusha.com/pafc147.htm . He also has pages like www.anusha.com/uncles-p.htm . His memory is almost perfect. Near Total Recall. Anyway, I hope we can engage in dialog about my father's SSN.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2017 (EST)
==Hate crime==
Dear 1990'sguy, I am not trying to get into an edit war with you, but I believe that you are misreading the hate crime laws. They do not address "hate speech," just violence or other criminal acts against target groups that receive a lot of hate. I suggest that you do further research, and I hope that you will come to the same conclusion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:31, 7 January 2017 (EST)
:For clarification, are you telling me that hate crime laws do not cover "hate speech"? Regardless, I think we should mention that slowly (but steadily) speaking out for biblical Christian principles (opposition to homosexual marriage, saying Islam is a false religion, etc.) is being seen as "hate speech" and vulnerable to being criminalized. See this recent story[https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/simon-turpin/2016/01/08/northern-ireland-pastor-not-guilty-criticising-islam/] and please note the recent attempts to censor Christian sermons in Houston (I don't know if other cities did the same). Censorship of Christian and conservative opinions is growing, and I could a few (but probably unrelated to hate crimes) examples. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (EST)
::Also, while you can keep you additions, would you please restore the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hate_crime&curid=3861&diff=1298155&oldid=1298153 material you deleted in this edit] (particularly those three completely deleted paragraphs)? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:11, 7 January 2017 (EST)
:::Thank you for fixing the dead link and finding an additional source. You are exactly right. Hate crime and hate speech are completely different. All Conservatives disapprove of speech codes, "safe spaces policy" and political correctness. The First Amendment is clear that regulation of speech must be neutral as to the message. The person(s) who wrote the [[Hate crime]] article years ago got a bit tangled up. Liberals want hate speech codes, and Conservatives oppose them. Both Liberals and Conservatives have voted to enact true hate crime laws to protect religious freedom and to address hate violence on the basis of race. Some Conservatives argue that the list of hate targets in those laws should not include "sexual orientation," but that argument does not belong in a section discussing protecting religion.
:::I took out the two paragraphs because they were repetitive, out-of-place and not germaine. Why not add them to [[Hate speech]]? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:39, 7 January 2017 (EST)
::::Thank you for clarifying and for moving the content. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)
:::::You are welcome. Our discussion here was a bit time delayed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 22:02, 7 January 2017 (EST)
If you want to include the legislative history, it should explain which bill that was finally adopted that is being discussed and how the bill that was adopted differs from the earlier bills. The people that worked on this article years ago were obviously opposed to a series of bills and were making arguments on why a bill would be bad. Their narative is out of date. We have a number of state and federal hate crime laws on the books and we need to describe what exists, give facts and statistics about how the laws work, and include some commentary on whether the law has been applied fairly. If you want to expand the history section beyond the two sentences that I have explaining how the federal law expanded the role of the FBI, please do so. But the fact that certain people sponsored bills that did not pass before a bill did pass is not helpful unless you explain what changes were made or how the early efforts illumniates our understanding of the bill that passed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2017 (EST)
:If these proposed bills became law, we should definitely include this (even if we word it differently). We should do this in order to inform the public about leftist laws and to show that they didn't always exist. Unfortunately, I am quite busy right now, so I cannot do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 13 January 2017 (EST)
:::1990sguy, these bills did '''not''' become law. A similar bill later became law. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)
::Not to sidetrack your guys discussion, but let me point out (cause the media hasn't) we have just witnessed something very rare and unusual in the US. Traditionally, because of state sovereignty, the states prosecute murder cases and federal government's role is restricted, for most of our history, to capital cases in the US military. In the 20th century federal crimes like murdering the president, or terrorism on federal property causing death ([[Timothy McVeigh]]), were added. This guy, [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/dylann-roof-death-penalty-explainer/ Dylann Roof], has just been sentenced to death for violating peoples civil rights with a hate crime enhancement, and ''not for murder''. The federal government does not have the legal authority to try this as a murder case. In fact, Roof probably never will be tried for murder cause the State of South Carolina isn't gonna spend the time and money to do it after the feds are done. In my lifetime, I think this is only the fourth case like this I ever heard of, tho I'm sure there's been a few others. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]] 22:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)
:::Rob, this happened a lot in the 1960s. Civil rights workers would go South and were murdered and either the murder was not prosecuted or a local jury would acquit the accused. The FBI would then investigate and the US DOJ would successfully prosecute for civil rights violations in Federal Court. The question is whether there is enough of a commerce clause basis to allow for the passage of such federal crimes, and the courts have upheld them on the grounds that if the federal government did not prevent such intimidation, people would not feel safe crossing state lines. Also, many states have suspended or abolished the death penalty, while it remains available in federal court. State "sovereignty" is very limited and not ''actual'' sovereignty in the legal sense. To me, this is a more interesting aspect of the Hate crime article than whether or not the definition should be expanded to include "gender identity." [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2017 (EST)
::::I'm not sure it happened "a lot". There was the 'Mississippi Burning' case, where the local cops and others were charged with civil rights violations, but no one served more than a six year sentence. This is why "hate crime" legislation was added later, cause sentences were too light for a "civil rights violation resulting in death". The problem in those days were all-white juries exonerating murder cases, so the feds invented a way they could prosecute killers. One guy was convicted in a state trial [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/price&bowers/killen.htm 40 years later in 2005 of manslaughter,] but he wasn't the trigger man. No one has ever been charged with the actual killings.
::::Then there was Salt Lake City case of a civil rights violation resulting in death in 1978, but Utah was never part of the Confederacy, was not put under federal scrutiny in the Voting Rights Act, nor has a history of all-white jurries exonersting whites accused of murdering blacks.

::::In the 1990s, Brian Beckwith was convicted of violating Medgar Evers civil rights by killing him in the 1970s.

::::In the 90s Timothy McVeigh was the first person executed by the federal government since, like 1956. But this was a terrorism charge resulting in death, not a civil rights violation, AFAIK. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3azq6b/eli5how_timothy_mcveigh_only_got_convicted_of_8/ McVeigh was only charged with 8 counts of murder, although 168 were killed]). Since McVeigh, there's been maybe one or two other cases of people executed by the federal government.
::::Bottomline, the federal hate crime enhancement was added cause, while the feds proved they could get a conviction where the state failed to act, the penalty was too low. Since its inception, it's hard to find a single case that the law was used for what it was designed for. There is no evidence whatsoever that South Carolina would not prosecute Dylann Roos, or an all-white jury would have exonerated him if the feds failed to intrude. South Carolina has lost its right to govern itself, its sovereignty. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]] 06:32, 14 January 2017 (EST)
:::::If this is true, then it definitely should be added. It would give yet another ignored example of massive governmental expansion and movement towards socialism. JDano, if the 2009 proposal did not become law, then what did the actual law consist of? If the bill that was listed on the article did not become law, then there is no point in including it. However, a legislative history of successful bills would be good. However, I am still quite busy, so I will not attempt to do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 14 January 2017 (EST)

==Contest==
I will provide the details you seek when i get some time. You were in the top 5. --Jpatt 10:19, 16 January 2017 (EST)
:Thank you for the reply Jpatt! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:40, 16 January 2017 (EST)

== discuession ==

I am continuing the discussion on my talk page.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (EST)

==Question==
What would be the best word to describe Eurosceptic's opponents? Eurocentric? Pan European? Some other? I don't like globalist in this context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]] 12:42, 28 January 2017 (EST)
:I would say either "Europeanists," "Europhiles," or "Euro-Federalists" are the best. They either seem to be the most used terms. Of those three, I would personally opt for the first. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)

== Ban editing ==

Hi, I've noticed you sometimes change blocks by other admins to increase the time or make in infinite. I appreciate your intentions, but just thought I would point out a couple things. Firstly, the blocking admin generally has the final say over the block they have imposed. For example, if a person want to dispute the ban, they are to go to the blocking admin, and that admin decides whether to revoke the ban or not (as can be seen [[Conservapedia:Quick_reference#If_you_get_blocked|here]]). Since you are not revoking a block, it's probably not as big of an issue, but it still seems to be proper etiquette. Of course, full admins have authority over assistants such as you and I, so they have the right to direct revise of revoke blocks we make. 
Secondly, While it makes good sense to block those people forever, it doesn't really work that way. A ban applies to the username, and the IP from which they edited if the option is selected--nothing more. Vandals almost always use servers to redirect their connection, however, so that their true IP is never seen by CP. This means that when we block those users, we are really just blocking the server they were using. This is a good thing too, but the problem is that these servers are usually assigned new IPs periodically, so the block no longer applies--now the blocked IP is unassigned. Since most people in the western world still use IPv4, there are not that many spare IP addresses, so the IP is soon assigned to someone else. Now some innocent person is using an IP which for all eternity has been blocked on CP. They probably will never even know, but if we set infinite blocks enough, the chances of that happening regularly increase continuously. I know some people here do use infinite block regularly, but in my opinion its a logistical problem. This is why I almost always set a time limit, or block only the username infinitely, and leave the IP unblocked (which I prefer not to do).
Thanks for your ongoing efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:05, 31 January 2017 (EST)
:Yikes, I should have thought of that. The thought of indefinitely blocking innocent people from CP certainly is not a good thing. If you haven't reverted by block change, feel free to undo it. I'm too busy right now to do it myself. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:11, 31 January 2017 (EST)

::The chances of that happening from a couple blocks are pretty low, but it can add up. Anyway, no harm done. I just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:24, 31 January 2017 (EST)

:::I apologize for adding to a discussion which is over a year old. However, DMorris straightened me out about this, and I wanted to belatedly set the record straight. When a user is blocked, the username/account is blocked for a specified amount of time, but the IP address is only blocked for 24 hours, unless it is banned separately. Autoblock will put a 24-hour ban on all IPs used by the banned account, though I'm not sure if it also blocks IPs which log into the banned account at a later time...I believe it does. Therefore, it seems we do not need to worry about the last point I made, as I was mistaken. Once DMorris corrected me, I did some research and testing, which confirmed what he told me. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:03, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

::::Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:23, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

== expand ==

[[Gainful employment]]. Yes. I dare you to.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:32, 4 February 2017 (EST)
:Why? What's the purpose of you messaging me? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2017 (EST)

==[[Abortion]] article==
It's open for you to make your suggested additions. As to the Leif Ericson image, what needs to happen is a new image uploaded in its place. I'll try to find one later. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:18, 6 February 2017 (EST)
:New Leif image uploaded and added to article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (EST)
::Thank you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 7 February 2017 (EST)

== Addiction article and TAR ==

Hello again, Regarding the [[Addiction]] article and specifically its categories, I agree with JDano. Let me attempt to explain: 

"TAR" is short for [[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] a former user and assistant SysOp here at Conservapedia. People have differing opinions of him, but mine is that he did offer some valuable contributions, but also did not understand and did not learn the rules of CP. Among some other issues, he tended to add many "See also" links to articles which were not sufficiently relevant and did the same with categories. Thus, when editors refer to "TAR" they are usually talking about this debris, which should not exist. TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) has since stopped editing here, and his account has been deleted. However, some of the links and categories he inserted still exists, and make things look messy. For this reason, a number of editors (including myself) try to clean up these issues and restore a little more order. The guide page [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] was the direct result of TAR's methods. 
Regarding the categories specifically, it's best to maintain a "tree" structure. A page should not connect to categories which also contain subcategories it links to. Also, it should link only to categories which contain it, not categories which the page topic can contain. In other words, a page "drug" should be in the category "medicines" but not in a category "antibiotics". 
I hope this clarifies a bit. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:42, 13 February 2017 (EST)

:Please allow me to apologize for my impatience with the "addiction" article. You accidentally stepped into the remains of a hornets' nest. TAR added lots of utterly irrelevant see-also's and categories, in what can only be described as an attempt to turn this wiki into survivalist-pedia, or perhaps James-Wesley-Rawles-pedia. He offended a huge number of people with his implications that we were all supposed to stockpile bullets, batteries, and other survivalist stuff (I could look it up but it's too nauseating) and move to a "redoubt" in Idaho or similar place while we wait for the apocalypse. We were also all supposed to be into some kind of crackpot Indian alternative medicine. (I think it was called "ayurvedic" or something like that; once again too nauseating.) The whole wiki was in an enormous uproar for a few months. (And Cons, who really doesn't subscribe to that stuff, nevertheless stirred up the pot by pretending to be in email contact with the guy.)
:So if you see suspicious see-also's or categories, especially with codewords like "nanny state" or "gun-grabbing", be aware this might be detritus from TAR. I support the second amendment, but I don't support putting all this survivalist garbage into an article on fire hydrants.
:[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:36, 13 February 2017 (EST)
::It has taken a huge amount of work to undo TAR's damage. I suppose that you think that there is a bias against any change he had made, and there is probably some truth to that. He did not understand that our categories have a tree structure. Instead, he thought of categories as a word association test. Putting in excess categories and excessive red links makes Conservapedia less appealing to users and lowers our google search engine rankings. In theory, every article could be in every category, because there is some plausible connection between any two subjects. If we had a separate article on "Drug Addiction" then it could have categories like [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] or [[:Category:Drugs]]. The problem is that [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Drugs]] ''breaking up the category tree with an infinite loop.'' Here the Addiction article is on a much higher level that discusses video games, etc. So, it is not useful to a high school student looking for information about illegal drugs, in my opinion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:46, 13 February 2017 (EST)

:::Thank you all for your explanations. Considering these things, I will try not to get in the way next time this clean up occurs. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2017 (EST)
== Thanks! ==

You helped make [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com THIS] happen.

I have never seen a non-profit website go from below 100,000 rank to nearly a 50,000 Alexa ranking in about a year. And Andy payed zero dollars for internet marketing services during this period.

And there is no sign of a nearing web traffic plateau. My guess is that Trump supporters/Trump era and the resulting political waves significantly explains the boost in traffic.

Trump supporters seem very loyal so the traffic boost could be long lasting. It also seems like there is a reawakening of right-wing politics/nationalism that will be long lasting. And right-wing populism and "[[best of the public]]" go together like peanut butter and jelly. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:30, 13 February 2017 (EST)

:You're welcome, and thank ''you'' for all your edits! I'm happy to help improve the quality of Conservapedia. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 13 February 2017 (EST)
==Quick project==
Dear Guy:
Our state articles list the members of Congress from each state, but they have not be updated for 2016. If five editors could update 10 states each, we would be done quickly. Could you please take a look at [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Political directory]]? Thanks in advance, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2017 (EST)

Thank you for your help with the project and with People's Party. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)

== Tip ==

Thanks for your terrific work. One tip: the licensing information should be expressly included in the uploads. I added it here: [[File:EU_member_states.png]]. Thanks again for your edits and uploads.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:27, 7 March 2017 (EST)
:Thank you for the tip. I will remember to add the information next time. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:34, 7 March 2017 (EST)

==[[Template:Book]]==
Try working on it now. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 10:48, 11 March 2017 (EST)

== Questions ==

A few months ago, you told me to ask you any questions I had, so here goes:
*When recategorizing the massive and messy [Category:Authors] by nationality, I found two authors, [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], whom I could not recategorize as [Category:American Authors]. Could you change them for me?
*When fixing the [[Francois Rabelais]] cedilla mess, I set up a redirect. Has anyone ever made a loop out of redirects? If so, what happened? I'm scared to try it.
*Lastly, where is my attention now best sent - expanding the author articles, improving our coverage of science and mathematics, or maybe tackling another recat job, like [Category:Music]?

:1) Concerning [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], those articles are protected, and as an assistant sysop, I do not have the ability to edit them. I recommend asking someone like [[User:Karajou]] or CP's owner, [[User:Aschlafly]] to either unlock the articles to allow you to fix the category or to have them change the cat themselves. I've made many similar requests to them and they will be happy to help.

:2) I have not heard of someone doing that before. I personally don't think anything bad would happen if someone did try it, as you can still access the actual redirect page to remove the loop.

:3) Honestly, all three choices are great. If I were you, I would probably choose to expand the articles already created so that the average reader would find them more interesting and worthwhile, rather than just seeing a stub. After that, I would personally move on to work on another category, so that CP is better-organized. Then after that, I would do math and science, which is (as far as I can tell) on a different theme than your other work. This is my personal preference, but if you would prefer doing it in a different order feel free! You have been very helpful to CP, and I appreciate your work. Keep it up! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

::Hi, just a quick note: A redirect loop shouldn't be a problem. I think the user is only redirected once, so after that they see the second redirect page. Redirect loops, double redirects, and dead redirects should all be avoided when possible. Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:23, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

:::You are entirely correct, DavidB4; I just tried a loop with soda and pop (and removed it). Typing one would give you the page for the other, and an option to redirect. I'll proceed to expand the author pages now. Feel free to removed this section to abridge the talk page.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (EDT)

== Could you please write this article? ==

Could you please write this important article: [[Atheism and ethics]]?

I may ask another writer or tow to contribute to it also. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:07, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

:Yes, I think I will be able to find some time to do it. Unfortunately, I have other things on my to-do list (even for CP), but this article is important, and I will try to find time to help. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

::OK. Thanks. I think [[User:Pokeria1]] will be assisting you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:55, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

=== Sources to help you write an article ===

*[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/04/ethics-for-atheists/# Would human life be sacred in an atheist world?]

*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?]

*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheism_determinism_morality.html Does Atheism (Determinism) Negatively Impact Morality?]

*[http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/2015/03/atheism-ethics-and-immorality.html Atheism, Ethics, and Immorality]

*[https://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2016/01/good-nothing-make-atheist-ethics-better-christian/ Being Good “For Nothing” — Does That Make Atheist Ethics Better Than Christian?]

*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/questions-on-atheism-ethics-and-marital-conflict Questions on Atheism, Ethics, and Marital Conflict]

*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics]

Secular sources:

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]

Additional sources:

*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by Paul Copan
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister
*[http://themelios.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-amorality-of-atheism The amorality of atheim] by Rob Smith
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/can-we-be-good-without-godCan Can we be good without God?] by William Lane Craig]
*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics and morality] by Ken Ammi
*[http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec06/AtheisticExplanations.html Atheist explanations of morality and common sense]
*[http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2015/09/does_being_an_atheist_interfer.html Does being an atheist interfere with being moral?] by Lydia McGrew
*[http://americanvision.org/2742/nietzsche-slaps-down-dawkins-on-the-illusion-of-atheist-morality/ Nietzsche slaps down Dawkins on the illusion of atheist morality] by Dr. Joel McDurmon

== quick note ==

Would you be interested in email communication with me? My email is userconservative135@gmail.com

Please let me know if you are interested. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:54, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

:Yes, that would be great! I've been thinking for some time of setting up a CP email address account, and I'll do that within the next couple of days. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (EDT)
::OK. That sounds good. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
:::Here it is: 1990sguysdg@gmail.com --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
I just sent you an email. Let me know if you got it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:10, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
::I wrote another response to your email. Please check your email box. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
:::I got your latest email and responded to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2017 (EDT)

== If you are interested, another article that needs to be created ==

If you are interested, another article that needs to be created: [[Secular ethics]]

Sources about this topic:

*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_ethics Secular ethics]

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]

Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, 20 March 2017 (EDT)

=== A couple more article suggestions related to atheism and morality ===

Also, here are a few more articles that need to be written about atheism and morality:

*[[Evolutionary ethics]], Wikipedia has an article on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_ethics

*[[Ethical naturalism]], Wikipedia has an article on it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism

*[[Ethical subjectivism]], Wikipedia has an article on this subject at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_subjectivism

Thanks for your assistance on the [[Atheism and ethics]] article. It was much appreciated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2017 (EDT)

== The Project I invited you to participate in plus ==

Here is the project I invited you to participate in:

*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project]]

It should be easy to find relevant online material in order to create some of the articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
:Thank you, Conservative, for your suggestions. I will begin on some of these soon. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:53, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
::I sent you an email. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

== Blocking user "reformed" ==

Well, I've got to say that vandalizing the user page of someone with block authority is '''really''' stupid.

But I take issue with your claim that he was an "obvious sock". As one who has been blocked a number of times on completely bogus socking charges, I take that stuff seriously. (The blocking was generally done by someone (now deceased) who had "checkuser" privileges and therefore had good tools for detecting socks, but did not understand how internet addresses work.)

It is not at all obvious to me, as one who has a lot of experience at CP, that he was a sock. He was a vandal, and you should block him for that.

Oh, dear. Now I see that there's a big storm of this stuff going on. And, yes, these guys, or at least some of them, are probably socks of each other. And at least one of them is using the name "obvioussock", just to taunt you. And one says he used to be a washing machine in his previous life.

My goodness! I think you are being trolled! :-) :-) And no, I had nothing to do with this. Just block them. It will blow over soon.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:54, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

:Thank you for your message. :) Due to the fact that "reformed" was created right after I blocked two users and vandalized my user page, I assumed that it was a clear sock of one or both of them. However, as it was not clear to you and possibly others, I changed the block settings to just include vandalism. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:06, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

==Screw up==
Sorry, I'm working with a tablet, and it's a piece of garbage. I didn't intentionally remove your comments. Sorry. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]] 15:31, 25 March 2017 (EDT)
:Assuming you're referring to those at [[Talk:Main Page]], apology accepted. It can happen to the best of us. They were other user's edits, however. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:33, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

== Thank you ==

For your reverts yesterday on my userpage, saw the sock puppet master was not finished with his trolling. [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 07:37, 26 March 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 26 March 2017 (EDT)

== Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination ==

Thank you for your improvements to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 16:13, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:30, 29 March 2017 (EDT)

== small request ==

I sent you a message at the last place we communicated. Can you please read that message? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:59, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
:I sent you the information I promised. It is located at the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
::Sent you message. Please check place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:::I sent you a quick note to the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
::::Could you please go to the place we last communicated? It is regarding another matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])

==Photo size==
With a large photo, there is much more word wrap in the table of contents, which makes it even longer. We need a wide table of contents. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:08, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
:I've checked and double-checked, and I see no way how the larger-sized photo does anything to the table of contents. And I'm using a standard Google Chrome, 100% zoom screen. Could it be your search engine/zoom? I don't see any reason why the larger image is a problem in any way. I think it looks better, regardless. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
:::On Firefox the TOC is longer due to word wrap. You can get other pictures to help fill the space, but the space will be shorter if the TOC is wider. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
I am getting a lot of 500 errors. I will wait for you to finish, and then I will go back and apply my changes. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:07, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:I have done my changes. But please, when making those changes, please do ''not'' revert changes I have made, particularly changes that I have already reverted you multiple times. I'm tired of these disputes. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

== IRC ==

Hello, 
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009. It is now registered and somewhat set up. I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel. Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering. In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later. If you are interested, please let me know! 
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net 
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

:Thank you for your response. I have never used or really even heard of IRC prior before now (or, more accurately, before you and Andy started talking about it). What is the purpose of IRC? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

::It is perhaps the oldest form of instant messaging. It is basically a chat room, where people can join and idle or actively chat. Visitors can ask members questions, and members can collaborate. There is even file sharing, if that would be useful. I'm going to be writing a how-to-use guide to explain the actual usage better. 
::Most people use software clients, which they install (or run portably, which a whole different story), but web clients are also available, such as [https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=7c7240c62a5d4861a8ad0ba697929f39 this one]. With the web client, you can just pick a name and connect, without installing anything. Also, since IRC has been around so long, software for it is compatible with almost anything. All desktop and most mobile operating systems support it. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:55, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

:::Thanks for the info! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:24, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

== Re: Vandal ==

Already took care of that and left a note for [[User talk:Teapublican|Teapublican]] on his talk page. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:09, 20 April 2017 (EDT)
:Thank you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:08, 20 April 2017 (EDT)

== Recent item on maintalk -- congratulations! ==

Sorry, I just couldn't resist making fun of you there. I immediately recognized the Breitbart article, as one that I had seen shortly before. And then I saw that it was you. No hard feelings, I hope. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
:None at all. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (EDT)

::Congratulations! The [[March for Science]] article is a ''really good article''. And you made it so. (Well, with a little prodding from me.) It sets out, straightforwardly, what was going on, and it doesn't descend into namecalling. I realize that you probably have very strong disagreements with what most of those people were doing, but you kept it professional.

::Really good articles, especially on potential "hot button" issues of politics, aren't all that common. Now maybe I will make another attempt to return the [[Pussy Riot]] article to the good state it was in back when I expanded it in 2014, before it got messed up with the implication that anyone who opposes murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin must be a "leftist", "elitist", or "social justice warrior". For which I was blocked, in blatant violation of the rules of this site. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

:::Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, the router I'm using blocked the "Pussy Riot" article because of the first word in the title, so I cannot comment on that at all. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:00, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

::::How sad. I have created the redirect [[Nadezhda Tolokonnikova]] in case that helps. But it probably won't. You had no trouble typing the "P" word above, so I guess it's a problem of your router not going to a page with that word in the title. Maybe I should have named the page with its Cyrillc letters: "Пусси Райот". Well, you're not missing anything of cosmic importance. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

:::::The redirect actually did work. Thanks! The article does not appear to have a high quality (at least in the aesthetic sense), so changes would probably be beneficial, but if you're going to make changes, I would like to remind you to be cautious and not to contradict CP's POV. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

:::In case you forgot, Sam <s>(and how fast it appears that happens with you)</s>, it was ''you'' who violated the rules of this site by putting a liberal POV into that article (among others, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/SamHB per your history]) in the first place, then insistently readding it after your edit was reverted and you were warned about violating CP policy and about starting fights with other editors. You really should take the advice you're being given here and not continue violating CP policy. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

A few things:
*Today is my 9th anniversary at Conservapedia!
*I can assure everyone that I am very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP. I am also familiar with the many, many, many discussions of these points that have taken place over the years.
*@Northwest: this is the expected response.
*@1990's guy: this is ''not'' the response I expected. I'm chagrined that you think the article is of low quality. Especially since you know how to write high quality articles.
I'm serious. I was proud of that article as originally written/expanded by me. I thought it laid out the facts accurately, and avoided name-calling and such. Exactly like the March for Science article. Please look at the article (preferably the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&oldid=1328015] version, before name-calling got put in) and fix it up as you see fit. The name-calling consisted, among other things, of saying that those people around the world who took an interest in the case were "elitists" and "social justice warriors on the left". The latter term is straight out of Huffington Post and their ilk. It is a term of bleeding hearts in America, and not used widely elsewhere. In any case, one doesn't need to be an SJW to oppose murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin. In fact, given the recent falling out between President Trump and Putin, the accepted orthodoxy here at CP might be swinging away from support for the murderous thug. I hope so.

Please improve the article.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:28, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

:My problem is not with content; it is with organization, layout, aesthetics, etc. There are no subsections, which at least show the reader how the article is organized; it is just many paragraphs. Such articles do not appeal to the reader. IMO, it feels like reading a textbook. If it is just a few paragraphs, it is fine, but thus article has ten paragraphs. Adding a few headers and possibly an image would be beneficial (and I realized just as I wrote this that the March for Science article is approaching that length as well, so I probably either should just keep my mouth shut or add headers there as well). I did not mean to insult or degrade your work, and I apologize for giving that impression. BTW, happy 9th anniversary! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

:Sam - by your response, you're only proving what I said about your tactics and your history here right. You claim to be "very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP", but you only pay lip service to them here while your actions on CP over the years (and even now) are showing that you simply choose to disregard them for the sake of pushing liberal POV on this site and to start fights with those who don't share your viewpoint. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 18:08, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

== Bill Nye ==

Could you please contact me by email at sam4557@gmail.com? I think we can make a really good article out of this. I have a number of criticisms of his behavior--my opinion of him has gone down a whole lot over the last few weeks, and I think I have some insights about this that I'd like to bounce off of you. I know that you and I disagree totally about evolution and creationism, but we can put together a good article stating the facts. We can stay away from the name-calling that so many articles contain, and avoid things like "so-and-so falsely believes that ..."

This is ''not'' about Pussy Riot, ''not'' about Conservapedia politics, and ''not'' about you-know-who. I just want to bounce some ideas off of you about Bill Nye and see if we can put together a really nice article.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:00, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

== Expanded article, footnote did not support genocide/racist abortions adequately ==

I greatly expanded this article [[Abortion and eugenics]]. The footnote in the liberal article was not supporting or at the very least inadequately supporting racist/genocidal abortion policies of [[Margaret Sanger]], etc.

Specifically, I skimmed the article as far as the footnoted article and it did not appear to strongly support such a big claim like abortion/genocide, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:26, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

==Something isn't right here==
... Ohhh I know what it is. ''Margaret Thatcher'' is on the list of liberals. ''Margaret. Thatcher.'' The bastion of conservatism. A favourite of Reagan. How in the ''world'' did she make the liberal list? [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 09:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:Wasn't me who added her. She was not as conservative as people think she is, as she did vote in favor of legalizing abortion and homosexuality. But, that said, it would probably be better without mentioning her, to avoid people focusing on her mention in the article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

::She might not have been a perfect conservative, but I still think she probably doesn't belong on that list. Of course, if you go back 80 years and read writings and speeches from liberals of the day, they sound downright conservative now. Still, she did defend liberty and much of conservatism. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:::Lady Thatcher's criticism of Simon Callow's performance in ''Amadeaus'' made her homophobic, I thought. Being homophobic wouldn't preclude one from being liberal however, [[Bill Moyers]] and Louis Black for example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']] 15:31, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
I assume that adding the liberalism template to the [[Episcopal Church]] article was improper? I would like to know what the proper usage of this template is for future reference. TEC is one of, if not the most liberal Christian denomination in the US these days, sadly. I do apologize for this improper usage, as I am a new editor. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:Hello Anglican! I removed the template because I thought the article was outside the scope of the "liberal" template. What I mean is that the template links to liberal traits, but not necessarily to liberal organizations. I think the category is good for the article, but not template. I hope this helps! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
::That makes sense. Thank you for your patience. It's sad what has happened to the Episcopal Church in recent years. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:::You're welcome, and I agree. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

== User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on liberalism. So... ==

User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on [[liberalism]].

The article needs major improvements.

I am not going to work on it due to time restraints. I spent a lot of time improving the [[liberal]] article.

I would use the same approach used with the liberal article. Clearly delineate liberalism from socialism/fascism because they are very substantially different (for example, Sweden vs. Communist China vs. Nazi Germany). But mention how the gap between the ideologies has narrowed in the United States. I don't keep up with European politics to know the situation there as far as the gap other than knowing that China has become more capitalistic. European countries commonly have more major political parties in a country so the situation is more difficult to keep tabs on. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:33, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

:I posted the below information on RobS' talk page and thought I would share it with you also. You can go to RobS' talk page to see his response to me.

::I would work on the liberalism article. But also create 2-3 sub-articles: [[American liberalism]] and [[Western liberalism]] and [[European liberalism]]. The [[American liberalism]] article is just a one sentence stub article.

::I suggest a [[Western liberalism]] article due to the Canadians, Australia, NZ, and South Africa. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:::Since the Brits and Canadians have the most influence in the Anglosphere on the USA, you might want to create a [[British liberalism]] article and a [[Canadian liberalism]] article too.

:::Its too bad all this wasn't done before given that CP is a political website. I was largely focused on [[atheism]] which is a dying ideology. This had an indirect relation to liberalism given the prominence of the [[secular left]] on liberal/leftist politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

== Re: American liberalism ==

I copied and pasted some of the [[liberal]] article into the [[American liberalism]] article.

Generally speaking, ideally you want the material in the section for main article linking to a sub-article to have substantially different content. In this case, you want the [[American liberalism]] article to have different content than the "American liberalism" section of the [[liberal]] article.

So if you want to reword and/or add material to the [[American liberalism]] article the would be excellent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

== Opinion on renaming an article ==

I wanted your opinion on an idea of mines to rename one of our articles on Conservapedia before taking it to an admin or someone with the ability to actually change the name of a page.

The current page [[Exodus of Israel]], I think, should be renamed to [[The Exodus]], where [[Exodus of Israel]] should simply be a redirect to that page. Not many users would think of typing 'Exodus of Israel' to get to a page on 'The Exodus', and 'The Exodus' is just much simpler. As it is, [[The Exodus]] is currently a redirect to [[Exodus of Israel]]. I think it should be the other way around. Your thoughts?[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 13:34, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
:No, I think it is better the way it is. My main reason is that having titles along the lines of "The...." does not sound encyclopedic. The current name, I believe, is more high quality for that reason. Now, it is true that many users might not think of typing "Exodus of Israel," but if they type "[[Exodus]]," they'll run into the disambiguation page and find the actual article. Also, I'm not sure that many people would think of typing "The Exodus." To sum it up, I think the current title is better and give the article a more encyclopedic feel, but you're welcome to ask another editor what they think. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for the thoughts. Wikipedia currently uses 'The Exodus', and I find that it simply looks better, as a title, then 'Exodus of Israel'. Secondly, I also consider it more likely for someone to type in 'The Exodus' then 'Exodus of Israel'.[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 15:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
:Once again, if you want to ask another editor for their opinion, like DavidB4, feel free to do so. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:20, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for your opinion. One thing though, do you know who can get this template locked?

At this point, all relevant pages have been created, and therefore this template no longer will ever need any more editing as it is complete. So the best thing to do is to get it locked to avoid any vandalism problems in the future. Just to note, before I came on, it was already locked, even though it still had many problems. Now that the template is fixed, the best thing to do is to get it locked. [[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
:I recommend asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]]. They have protection powers. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
==Block length==
Thanks for your alert blocks. But one year is a long time for a block. IP addresses often change in a shorter period. You might consider 3 months as a better block duration in many cases.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (EDT)
:OK. I'll see to that. Should I change the blocks I just did? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:26, 17 May 2017 (EDT)
::I just went ahead and changed them. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

== Congratulations on Donald Trump accomplishments ==

Hey, I just checked Google. While that movie award comes up first when "Donald Trump achievements," is Googled, and you are the first result after, you get nice results with certain other phrases:
*Donald Trump accomplishments - third link, no box
*Trump achievements - first link, no box
*Trump accomplishments - fourth link, no box
*Donald Trump achievements and failures - fourth link, no box
While Conservative's essays come up first when their exact titles are Googled, bear in mind that these phrases are Googled more frequently.
Congratulations on the publicity, 1990sguy!--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 08:07, 25 May 2017 (EST)

:Great job, it is well deserved! - -[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])
::Thanks, Nathan and DavidB, I appreciate it! It seems I chose the right article to create, in terms of gaining page views. For a while, when one searched the exact title of my article, that silly award was not at the top of the article, and in its place was a box with a picture of Trump linking to my article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:24, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
== Can you chat briefly? ==

Can we chat briefly? Can you please go to place I sent you messages before? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:16, 3 June 2017 (EDT)
== Here is the the article ==

*[[Liberal vs. libertarian]]

Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, 3 June 2017 (EDT)

== It's been great ==

You've been helpful since I you first welcomed me here - me, someone who had never used wikitext or HTML in his life and never believed in a young Earth. You've really made me consider that viewpoint, and you've done it with a brilliant personal appeal, far better than User:Conservative ever has.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)

==Europe's childless leaders==
Where do you think [http://dcwhispers.com/rather-odd-troubling-fact-european-leaders/ we can squeeze this in] [[European migrant crisis]]? In the Intro or elsewhere? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 02:13, 9 June 2017 (EDT)
:I think that would be a good idea. We could also, possibly, add it to the [[European Union]] article, and maybe [[Globalism]] or [[Liberal]], as these leaders advocate for left-wing globalist policies. Are you able to find other sources that note this fact? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT)
::I think this also illustrates liberal European values. They support mass immigration of peoples who do not share their culture while they themselves have no children. They are committing national/cultural suicide. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:15, 9 June 2017 (EDT)

== The reason I removed Ted Nugent from Notable Texans ==

Because Ted Nugent is actually from Michigan. Sorry that I forgot to add an explanation. ([[User:King Conservative|King Conservative]] ([[User talk:King Conservative|talk]]) 13:37, 17 June 2017 (EDT)King Conservative)
:I removed him from the list. Thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:16, 17 June 2017 (EDT)

==Template tweak==

Hi, guy! Thanks for the {{tl|See also}} in [[Neil Gorsuch]]. That template works better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 08:53, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome, always happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
==Nasty edit summaries==
Dear 1990sguy: Please stop writing inflammatory edit summaries. There is no need to make false personal attacks on other editors. As for Breitbart, each reference is evaluated individually on its own merits. If it is news reporting, I welcome it. However, some references are clearly opinion-editorial pieces that criticize other news stories instead of offering any independent news gathering. Some authors there are editorial-opinion writers rather than news reporters. Also, when I check a source and see photos of immodestly dressed women with "wardrobe malfunction" captions or women wearing tight T-shirts imprinted with "no silicone", I am less inclined to use those sources, given our family-friendly approach. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:31, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
:Conservapedia has no requirement that only news reporter sources can be used for mews sources. For example, many excellent conservative editorial pieces link to a news story or quote a news story while providing excellent commentary.

:The mainstream press. which is very liberal, have a lot more reporters and they still have some foreign bureaus if I am not mistaken. Then you have Fox which only has a fraction of the combined viewership of ABC, CBS, and NBC.

:To be overly reliant on news sources merely from websites who have reporters is not a good policy.

:Yes, there are conservative news organizations such as CNS News. But I don't think we should limit ourselves to merely using conservative news organizations as far as news sources.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

::I agree with Conservative on this. We can use conservative news sources, even if the articles appear to be editorializing. This is a conservative encyclopedia, after all. Why should we adopt editing policies that give liberal MSM sources an unfair advantage? How then can we differentiate ourselves from Wikipedia? I am not opposed to citing MSM sources (I do it myself), but we should give precedence to conservative sources, which do not have leftist bias. Yes, Breitbart has silly ads, but I care more about the content of the article than the ads. There are many Breitbart writers who support conservative, Christian pro-family policies. Are there any at CNN or the NYT?

::JDano, yes, my edit summaries were inflammatory. I probably should have acted cooler when dealing with you, and for that, I apologize. Your behavior, constantly reverting and adding changes that I genuinely believe to contain leftist bias without going to the talk page until you've been reverted several times, is not constructive. I do believe your changes are undermining our status as a conservative alternative to Wikipedia. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 02:50, 29 June 2017 (EDT)

== re: JDano and you getting "horse throwing" mad ==

In the recent edit changes, I saw you use all caps in your description of your edit. It was for the [[Travel ban]] article.

This tells me that you are starting to get "horse throwing" mad.

If it becomes necessary, you can impose a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] to JDano since you have blocking rights. You can make it applicable to certain articles or certain article categories. Probably a certain article would be best as a shot across his bow.

If JDano also has blocking rights, you can get Karajou/Aschlafly to impose such a ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
:P.S. I don't know if you are correct in this matter. And I don't have time to mediate. I am just offering you a suggestion since I have experienced JDano being unreasonable at times. Also, the majority of Conservapedians/Republicans/conservatives are more fans of Trump than Lindsey Graham. JDano appears to be in the Graham camp. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
::Please see my comment in the section immediately above. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2017 (EDT)

== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the "travel ban" article. ==

I just posted this message to JDano's talk page:

"You are not allowed to edit the [[travel ban]] article anymore. I am imposing a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] on you for this article.

By the way, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in terms of its Muslim population. The travel ban of the Trump administration does not include Indonesia."[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the fake news article ==

I posted this on JDano's talk page:

"The [[fake news]] article was locked/protected. It seems as if the root cause of the page being locked was an edit war involving yourself.

You are no longer allowed to edit the fake news article. I am imposing a Conservapedia topic ban on you for this article. See: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]]

I hope additional topic bans are not imposed on you by people with block rights." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

== Socks of JamesWilson ==

Socks of this clown should receive five year bans. He is a malicious provocateur, and he singlehandedly destroyed another website as well as leading dozens of people off this site. Show this schlemiel no mercy. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:I don't see why we should be giving long blocks to this guy. He's clearly using multiple ip addresses. These addresses will probably get passed to one or more people who have no intention of vandalizing CP. DavidB4 explained by long blocks are not a good idea on my talk page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&diff=1304184&oldid=1303142] However, I will not challenge your lengthening of that block or any other. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:20, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
::Maybe you do have a point because he has created a few different accounts in the past day or so. All I'm saying is that lightening up on him isn't going to work. My late friend George let this guy off easy, and he destroyed an entire community. I've had plenty of experience with this guy in the past to know his MO, and he's fanatically obsessed with Taylor Swift and "avenging" others because they "ruined" his articles. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:28, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:::That's fair. This guy is clearly bad news. Regardless of what block lengths we give him (and I can see some sense in making them longer), we should try not to accidently prevent innocent people from viewing CP. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
::::How do we know that this editor is a "sock" of JamesWilson? Has anyone checked the IP user logs? The Taylor Swift connection could be a false-flag operation. If George and James got into an edit-war on a different website, that would not be relevant here. Let's judge each editor separately until they can be linked by evidence. Are all of the problem users created in the past few days created from the same or very similar IP addresses? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:27, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:::::He put "Sad case!- James Wilson" in the edit summary of all of his vandalism, and it was the same stuff he's always done. If he says it's him, I'm just gonna assume it's him. Dont give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He's had plenty enough breaks here and elsewhere. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:::::@JDano: Yes, I think it clearly is JamesWilson. His vandalism is very repetitive -- he even vandalizes the user pages of the same users. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:52, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
*FYI, even if an account is blocked indefinitely, the autoblock on the IPs is only for twenty-four hours. If the IP block was for as long as the account's block, checkusers wouldn't have to put separate blocks on persistent vandals' IP addresses. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:26, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
==Articles==
Since I've written a few articles on Christianity, please feel free to edit them to conform to the views of Conservapedia if necessary. Admittedly, writing about Christianity as a Jew can be a bit difficult at times. --[[User:RonaldB|Ronald]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:35, 5 July 2017 (EDT)
:I have not seen any factual problems with the articles you created. However, I do recommend that you add categories of the religion you are writing about to those articles. For example, that you add "Category:Christianity" to [[Secular Christianity]] and "Category:Judaism" to [[Secular Judaism]]. The people who practice these are not Jews (religiously speaking) or Christians, but the articles are relevant to those religions.

:Also, I recommend that you add at least one source to the articles you create. Adding sources to articles is Commandment #2 in [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], and it makes the articles better for readers. They know where you are getting your information from, and they can read further if they are interested. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:51, 6 July 2017 (EDT)

== Changing my username ==

I don't know if Andy saw my request on his talk page. Did he skip it or didn't see it? --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 9:18, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
:I don't know. Sometimes he does that, but when I message him again he usually replies. I recommend commenting again, letting him know how much you want your username changed, and asking him to respond. I think we will do it, but only if you absolutely want it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:49, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
::I read [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Inquiry|the back and forth]] with the guy you probably were referring to on Andy's page. Andy seemed pretty reluctant to change the RonaldB's name for most of the discussion.. Is the process of changing someone's username complex or difficult to do, or did he just want to make sure that the guy wasn't being wishy-washy about the change? I was a little sheepish about asking him again because I don't want to seem annoying. --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 5:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
:::I think CP admins generally prefer simply creating a new account. The user who made the other request was not the original person using the account. The original person let him take over the account. I can see why Andy wanted him to create a new account. I recommend you politely letting him know how much you want your username changed, and why, and asking him to respond, regardless of his answer. I think that would be a good move on your part. It would show how serious you are with this request. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

== Re: Trump ==

I think Donald Trump is going to get stuck with the blame for the economic bubble created by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwtkIpgAnA]

In addition, TrumpCare probably will not work because it is keeping the "precondition clause" of ObamaCare due to its popularity. People will often not buy health insurance until they are sick. So the health care system will not be viable. Car insurance companies could not be profitable if people could buy their car insurance after their car accident in order to replace their car. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

:You are probably right on both of those things. The first point would be the fault of the Obama Administration, and the second by the establishment GOP Congress. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Got it, thanks for letting me know. --[[User:OneTrueConservative|OneTrueConservative]] ([[User talk:OneTrueConservative|talk]]) 00:12, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:21, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
== Expansion of right-wing material on the internet ==

*[https://www.axios.com/the-partisan-explosion-of-digital-news-2279022772.html The recent explosion of right-wing news sites]

*[https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3dy7vb/why-the-right-is-dominating-youtube Why the Right Is Dominating YouTube] - Vice News

*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HndA5MoxK08 Why the Right is Dominating YouTube (A Response to Vice)]

*[https://www.nctv.nl/binaries/psychological-effects-of-right-wing-and-islamic-extremist-internet-videos_tcm31-30177.pdf Psychological effects of right-wing and Islamic extremist videos] - Netherlands and German report

I know Twitter bans and shadow bans right-wingers.

I haven't looked at the latter two items, but right-wingers gaining momentum on the internet is an interesting development. With nationalism gaining ground in Europe and 21st century [[desecularization]] occurring, the trend is bound to continue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])

===Scriptural Geology===
Scriptural Geologists published in the USA as well. CRSQ published my review of David Lord "Geognosy" (that has other citations as well). [my magazines are in
storage but the year was 2000-2004.] Another recent CRSQ review was Gordon's 1878 book that mentioned USA Scriptural Geologist Martyn Payne.
:Thanks, Snoopy2, for your addition! I noted this fact, briefly in the article, in "The scriptural geologists" section. I knew that most of the Scriptural Geologists were British, and I did not have the time or knowledge of them to go into much more detail. Thanks for your help! Please remember to sign your posts in the future. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:06, 31 July 2017 (EDT)

== important message for you ==

I sent you an important message to the last place we communicated.

I also have some good news for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

== BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!! ==

BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!

== Block duration ==

Thanks for your great blocks but they should generally not exceed 6 months in duration. By then the IP address is typically being used by someone else.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (EDT)
:OK. I will keep that in mind. I will change this vandal's block. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

== "Denkmal der Schande" ==

Björn Höcke nannte das Holocaust-Mahnmal ein "Denkmal der Schande". Zudem sprach er von einer "dämlichen Bewältigungspolitik" und forderte eine "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad". Hinterher behauptete Höcke, er hätte den Holocaust als Schande bezeichnet. Wenn man sich nun seine Rede genau anschaut, kann er nur das Denkmal als Schande bezeichnet haben. Höcke hat offen NS-Gedankengut offenbart und dies auch gewollt. Er ist ein Agent des BRD-Systems, die zum Ziel haben, die AfD unwählbar zu machen. Dasselbe haben sie schon mit der NPD gemacht (in den 90er Jahren). Ich find's ja auch schade, dass die AfD unterwandert wurde und nicht mehr wählbar ist. Auch ich habe große Hoffnungen in sie gesetzt. Aber spätestens seit dem letzten Parteitag ist sie unwählbar, die Neo-Nazis gewannen die Oberhand, Gauland wurde Spitzenkandidat. Solange Petry keine neue Partei gründet, müssen Rechtschaffene bei der Bundestagswahl das geringste Übel wählen (z.B. die Freien Wähler oder die BüSo). Aber die AfD ist klar von NS-Agenten unterwandert und ich schrieb noch mehr in den Artikel, also lassen Sie mich zumindest Höckes Rede einfügen, dann kann sich jeder selber ein Bild machen. MfG --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 10:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)
:Grüetzi Elessar, CP ist ein Englisher website, so es ist besser wann wir in English schreiben. Ich denke dass die meisten leute heir sprechen kein Deutsch. Danke. Wass ich sage ist sehr kontrovers in Deutschland, aber, Ich probiere ein klares und gutes antwort zum geben:

:First off, many political parties have their crazy members. I know that UKIP explicitly disavows racism, but it has had some members who have said some silly things. I definitely do ''not'' believe the GOP in the U.S. is racist, but David Duke considers himself a Republican (and every other Republican disavows him). Even the Swiss People's Party in my country (I am also a U.S. citizen) has some members who have said racist things. Just because parties have members like this does not necessarily mean that the entire party is racist or whatever. In the case of Höcke's speech, Petry (the party leader, as you know) condemned what he said, or at least criticized him.

:Second, I know the mindset that the German have today. They are still ashamed for what they did during World War II, and they are still focused on trying to make restitution. Personally, I think it is good that they have repented, but they miss the fact that there are two extremes: one extreme is what the Nazis did, the other is being so ashamed bad things one did that they essentially hate their country. We see this with liberals in the United States. I think the German mindset is too far in the second extreme -- and no, I am anywhere close to being a racist or Nazi. Patriotism and nationalism can be very good things, as long as they are handled correctly and are not an excuse to persecute others. The German people, I think, are trying to extinguish them, and they have accused people, even those in the middle of those two extremes, as being Nazis.

:Let me also make clear that I have not read much about Björn Höcke's speech, other than what you provided and what his English Wikipedia article states, so I cannot comment on his entire speech and his entire character. He may very well be what you say he is. However, what I read about his speech and about him actually seems reasonable. Many peoples all over the world have done many evil things -- slavery in the U.S. and the other European colonies, the Islamic slave trade, religious persecution in Rome and the communist nations, the several genocides in history, etc. However, it is not constructive for cultures to focus on these events. It is good to remember them and repent of them, but not to obsess about them. There is much more to German history than World War II, just as there is more to U.S. history than slavery. Why can't we build monuments celebrating the positive things about our cultures and our people? It is cultural suicide not to do so. While we should not forget the bad events, we should focus on the good events and remain proud as a people in order to remain strong. This seems to me what Höcke is getting at. Am I wrong?

:Reading his Wikipedia article, I came accross this quote: "Die Syrer, die zu uns kommen, haben immer noch Syrien. Wenn wir – durch die Syrer – unser Deutschland verloren haben, dann haben wir keine Heimat mehr." I can see how in Germany this is very controversial, but I think in most other countries, this is quite reasonable. It may not be a bad thing if Syrians come, but it would mean that the German people would be in danger of disappearing, at least in a cultural sense. If someone values this (as most people of all ethnicies and nationalities do -- just ask the Poles or Hungarians), they will strongly oppose immigration.

:Am I wrong in what I am saying? Am I misrepresenting Höcke? I would appreciate some dialogue. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:18, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

::No, you aren't wrong and I too was never questioning that the "eternal fault" (electing Hitler/WW2) which is propagated by German liberals is bullshit. I only mean that Höcke was not only saying that, but he also clearly favorized the Holocaust by calling for an "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad" and calling the Holocaust monument a "Denkmal der Schande". This speech was much criticized by Jewish organizations in Germany and Höcke was forbidden to visit Concentration Camp Memorials. He's not a single exemption, but there are unfortunately already lots of neo-Nazis or neo-Nazi sympathizers in the AfD who are all defending Höcke's speech, including Spitzenkandidat Alexander Gauland. Party leader Petry was forced by them not to participate. These (real) neo-Nazis are system agents who are overrunning the AfD like they did decades ago with the NPD in order to make these parties uneligible by conservative voters. But of course many liberals call all ''real'' conservatives "neo-Nazis" which there is nonsense. But Höcke is really a neo-Nazi and anti-semite and should be excluded together with his inner-party defenders. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

:::I don't understand how the "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad" shows that Höcke is a neo-Nazi. It seems to be saying that German policy on these matters needs to change, which I also think is reasonable. The culture of shame in Germany must end -- when will Egypt build a monument mourning the Islamic slave trade, and when will Turkey build a monument mourning the Armenian Genocide? That's what I think he is saying. Am I wrong? Please explain.

:::While I am a strong supporter of Israel, I do think that many Jewish organizations in Europe and the United States are politically left-wing -- unlike the current Israeli government. The fact that they opposed Höcke's speech is unsurprising, even if he is not a neo-Nazi. Most European/American Jews support the ruling establishment's views on who is extreme and who is "moderate." And besides, Jewish organizations have their own interests. It's reasonable for them to defend monuments mourning a genocide of their own people, regardless of whether having such a monument, or at least the mindset behind it, is a good thing or not.

:::It seems to me that you are making a jump from noting what Höcke is saying to calling him a neo-Nazi. A lot of what he is saying seems reasonable, even if it is better that he watches what he says more closely, and I don't see how these comments make them neo-Nazis (I do see, however, how such comments are far outside the current German mainstream, and that they make such parties less attractive to moderate Germans). It seems to me that Höcke is a nationalist who is angry at the culture of shame in his country, which is probably the reason why it is being flooded with immigrants and weakened by the EU. Many conservatives said silly things (that sounded extremely racist) about Obama when he was U.S. President, even though those people would have voted for conservative blacks (Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain) or Hispanics (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz) in a heartbeat. Could it be that this is what Höcke is doing?

:::My last thing I want to say in this comment is not related to the above. I would like to remind you that CP is a family-friendly encyclopedia, and I think this policy also applies to talk pages. I request that you thus refrain from spelling out cuss words when making comments. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:35, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

::::Sorry about the term "b***" but I'm as angry as you about the "eternal fault" dogma. And you are completely right with most (including the Jews being too liberal in Europe), but in my opinion the quote "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad" is like he wanted to say "The Holocaust was nothing bad" or "not so bad" or so. Like it would be Holocaust relativation. Maybe Höcke really didn't mean anything bad in his speech but then he's simply uncaring of what he says because he damages his party with such unclear statements. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:34, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::As we disagree on his speech (even though I do think your last comment was very reasonable), I chose to move the info to another place in the article and re-word it. If you have any problems with how I re-worded it, we can discuss that as well. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

::::::Björn Höcke said in whole this: "Wir Deutschen – und ich rede jetzt nicht von euch Patrioten, die sich hier heute versammelt haben – wir Deutschen, also unser Volk, sind das einzige Volk der Welt, das sich ein Denkmal der Schande in das Herz seiner Hauptstadt gepflanzt hat." This means, not German patriots but the other Germans (liberals e.g.) have founded the Holocaust monument which he calls a Denkmal der Schande. Which means, according to him true German patriots wouldn't have built the Holocaust monument, which can be interpreted as he's pro-Holocaust. The same interpretation is open in his other quote "Wir brauchen eine erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad". Maybe he didn't want to relativate the Holocaust but he should watch out what he says, especially if his party wants to enter a coalition. A coalition with establishment parties wouldn't be bad as long as the AfD maintains its goals and gets many of them into a government program. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::::I can see now how people think the speech was sympathizing with Nazis -- the Holocaust and WWII is a touchy topic, especially for Germans. However, I still see how what he is saying is reasonable. Turkey, for example, is not going to build a monument for the Armenian Genocide anytime soon, Russia is not going to build a monument for the many Baltic peoples they killed during WWII, and Japan is not going to build any monument for the millions of people they killed, including concentration camp prisoners.

:::::::I do know that there are two AfD factions: one that has a goal of becoming a coalition party, and the other that wants to remain an anti-establishment party. Höcke is clearly part of the latter, while Petry is in the former. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:31, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

::::::::The AfD can remain an anti-establishment party and anyway be part of a government coalition, like the Austrian [[FPÖ]] which also seeks being part in coalitions (and already is in two states) and remains loyal to all of its positions. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:09, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::::::Fair enough, but you get the point: there are two factions in the party on the best way foreward for the party. One of them support coalition agreements and the other side is less pragmatic in this regard. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

==Brexit==
Hi - not sure why you changed my edits on the BREXIT page - I tried to provide an accurate account of what is happening and what is being reported by many news outlets --unsigned comment by HORSEMAN
:Hello "HORSEMAN", I removed the info about the potential referendums because this was just speculation that died down. I also thought that some of your wording (such as the "full complexity and impacts of BREXIT become apparent" and by removing the mention of the EU being obstructionist) seemed to insert a left-of-center bias into the article. CP is a conservative encyclopedia, and we align firmly with Brexit and Euroskepticism. However, I will see if I can re-add some of your wording. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
::Another problem is that for the part about the proposed payments and EU citizen rights, you did not provide sources. The existing info already had a source, and you changed the info while keeping the source. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
:::Hi Again, would this link suffice http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-2001_en.htm It is the definitive statement from the EU negotiating team and sets out the negotiating agenda. Thanks Horseman
::::You can definitely cite the source, but do you also have third party sources as well? I see nothing in the EU source about the monetary amount of the settlement. We prefer sources with conservative editorial stances. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:57, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
:::::Is this syitable, I don't pay for Telegraph articles so only have this link. Thanks Horseman
::::::The Telegraph is one of numerous conservative news organizations. Besides, their non-commentary articles are free for viewing. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

==[[Margaret Sanger]] revision that you undid==
Hi 1990'sguy,

Is there a way to reword what I wrote in such a way that it could be considered "encyclopedic"?

Thanks,
[[User:Bluedogdemocrat|Bluedogdemocrat]] ([[User talk:Bluedogdemocrat|talk]]) 22:59, 18 August 2017 (EDT)
:You could write "Planned Parenthood eventually expanded to support the form of murder known as abortion." Something like that. We should keep the wording encyclopedic, as this is not a blog or anything like that. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

== Re: Block of TimJim ==

Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you had already blocked TimJim when I blocked him, so I reset the block length back to that of your original block. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:45, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

== Article move request ==

Hi I'd be happy to move those articles you are requesting, but as you know, I cannot avoid the creation of redirects. Let me know if you want this, but hopefully you can get it done the right way. It's also probably easier to ask for a move than a delete. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:43, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
:I appreciate your offer, David, but I think it would be better if I keep it simple for Andy, rather than explain that the articles were moved and that he only has to delete the redirect -- having one person do it is more simple. Thanks anyway! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
::Agreed...okay. I didn't want to cut in and disrupt things, but just thought I'd offer. Cheers! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:49, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
:::I do appreciate your offer, David. Thanks! It looks like Andy just moved the articles. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

==Contact==
You can email me at wirepaladin36@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 11:22, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

==snoopy2==
1990s guy, I just want to verify u could read the Theistic ev. entry and 1994 film clip on my user talk. any comments?
:I could watch it, but would you please explain what it's about in a little more detail? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:55, 11 December 2017 (EST)

== Maybe I was too pessimistic. Good news ==

'''Why [[Democrats]] Should Be''' Losing Sleep Over Generation Z.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/]

Bye for now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
:Thanks for the article. Bye for now. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

== File comparison tool ==

Did Cons ever get back to you with the comparison tool? I'm curious about it, and whether it does a good job of checking for copied content. The problems that it appears to solve are different from the problems of comparison tools used in software development. I'm curious about whether it uses line hashing, sentence hashing, word group hashing, and things like that. I'd like to try it out, and not just at CP. In fact, probably not at all for CP; I'm not interested in who plagiarizes what at CP, though, when I am, I use other techniques to catch people. I'm just curious as to whether those other techniques have been automated.

It's puzzling that Cons deleted the screenshot, as though he ''wants'' people to believe he's a liar, though I don't think he is.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:57, 12 September 2017 (EDT)
:I can assure you that the tool exists. I have not tried it yet and thus cannot answer your question. I have no reason to try it as JDano's essays were deleted, so I recommend that you ask Conservative directly these things. Maybe he will share it with you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 12 September 2017 (EDT)

::Great!! I'm still very much interested in it. Is it a "cloud app"? Is it a downloadable app that I can run locally on my own computer? Can you send me a URL?
::By the way, the standard wiki comparison of your last edit to the [[Guy Verhofstadt]] article, just as a random example, shows how bad text comparers can be. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:40, 13 September 2017 (EDT)
:::You are going to have to ask Conservative for the details of the tool -- he told me not to give it away to anyone, and while I personally have no problem with sharing it with you, I shouldn't go against what he said. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:43, 13 September 2017 (EDT)
::::Well, this is really weird. Cons seems to be trying to censor the internet itself, hiding the location of this tool. And he seems to think that only you can be trusted with it. He said "I will share this tool with 1990sguy [...] so he can evaluate your [JDano's] efforts in an objective way." I of course took this as a challenge. A Google search for "similar page checker tool" gets a number of hits. Ignoring the ones that cost a lot of money, and those that attempt to check a given page against the entire internet, narrowed it down to a few. This one: [https://www.duplichecker.com/similar-page-checker.php] seems to be the right thing. It's a "cloud app" rather than an installable program, but I can put up with that. It has the same appearance—color and layout—as the screenshot that Cons posted and removed. I ran it on the versions of this page before and after your recent reply to me, and it said they were 100% the same. I'm not particularly happy about that, but the additional text was only about 0.3 percent of the total, so I suppose I can accept that. Then I ran it on versions that differ in length by 10% (the 100K version and the 110K version.) It said they were 98% similar. Not good. But I still might find it to be a useful tool. There are pages not relating to JDano that could benefit from such an analysis.

::::I will probably check in with Cons on this, once he stays away from CP for 10 days.

::::[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:39, 13 September 2017 (EDT)

==Getting help==
I am trying to fix the stuff on the Corporate bullies page. Am still learning my way around on how to use things. Think I am starting to get it though. The Georgia 2016 stuff has a lot of info and I am in the process of editing it, though it's going to take a while (at least 20 or more minutes. I'm trying though. (BTW, if I wasn't supposed to edit here, sorry. I don't know how to reply to your remark otherwise.) [[User:PatriotMongoose|PatriotMongoose]] ([[User talk:PatriotMongoose|talk]]) 22:31, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
:It's OK to edit here. I recommend that you read CP's guidelines, and probably more importantly, that you read [[Help:How to edit a website like Conservapedia]]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:34, 15 September 2017 (EDT)

==Fabulous block and reverts==

Fabulous block and reverts this afternoon!!!! Well done!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:51, 21 September 2017 (EDT)
:Thanks, Andy! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:52, 21 September 2017 (EDT)

== re: JohnZ ==

User: JohnZ fails to recognize that my interest to be a referee to protect a marginal online sparring partner (whose greatest achievement was his dogged stubbornness to ignore facts/evidence) was largely protected by his edits to main space articles and my desire for an online sparring partner.

His rudeness to other editors and his desire to barely skate by with his main space edits certainly did not help matters. In addition, given the [[decline of the atheist movement]] and it now being a hopeless cause destined to ever increasing irrelevance, my desire for an atheist online sparring partner is non-existent at this point given my current/future priorities.

If he wants to create two quality, well-sourced original articles of at least 2,00 words on these topics [[Anti-religious Soviet Union propaganda]] and [[Christian persecution in communist China]] to restore his other editing privileges, that is what is required.

He would also have to pledge to refrain from hurling insults to other editors (idiot, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, 3 November 2017 (EDT)

:Hopefully he'll do it. We've given him these opportunities before and he rejected them. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (EDT)
::I made a minor adjustment to his requirements for fully restoring his editing privileges in case someone creates articles on those subjects.

::Secondly, ardent secular leftists generally always double down regardless of any contrary facts/evidence presented to them. Of course, you never know what is going to happen. The Apostle Paul went from being one of Christianity's chief opponents to being its greatest champion. He will just need to be open minded.

::It is very widely recognized that there is and has been religious persecution in communist China and that there was anti-religious propaganda in the former Soviet Union. So I am giving him ample opportunity to show that he is not a close-minded individual given to hurling insults. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:31, 3 November 2017 (EDT)

I would say no to this for a couple reasons. The first is his blatant disrespect of everyone here, and he has shown that multiple times. The gist of it is a pretense of superiority over us, as if it is mandatory that we listen to him; he stated a short time ago that some of us are idiots for not engaging him in conversation. Which I might add is his kind of conversation.

The second reason is that he's a leftist brand of liberal from Great Britain, which means we cannot change his way of thinking whatsoever. Unfortunately for someone who is that close-minded he is going to go into lock-step with every other like-minded individual in his country, which would mean the loss of the United Kingdom as a political entity within a few years time. In his case, he is more concerned with picking a fight with the users of a small American conservative website then he is with what he and his kind are allowing to happen in Britain, namely the Islamic takeover. As a leftist, he probably feels he can get along with them in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but when all is said and done he will either be forced on his hands and knees with his butt high in the air, or he'll have his head chopped off.

Unfortunately, some people think they're so better than others that they've blinded themselves to what they're actually doing. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:35, 4 November 2017 (EDT)
:Karajou, if you look at my comment to his talk page, you will see that I am giving him an opportunity to show that he can be open-minded and reasonable by writing on two topics related to atheistic communism persecution of Christians/religious (namely [[Christian persecution in communist China]] and [[Anti-religious propaganda in the Soviet Union]]) via two quality articles of at least 2,000 words.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:38, 4 November 2017 (EDT)

== Anti-Christian bias in Wikipedia ==

Hello 1990'sguy. Am I being hypersensitive or is Wikipedia's anti-Christian bias increasing? For example, the recent dispute about content at Answers in Genesis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnswers_in_Genesis&type=revision&diff=810473662&oldid=810471171] I see also that User:Synthetic Woolly Mammoth[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Synthetic_Woolly_Mammoth] has just been blocked, allegedly for being a sockpuppet of Biscuittin, but more likely because he has been speaking up in support of some Christian editors. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 05:27, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:I know another editor who has extensively edited topics related to Christianity and atheism on WP, and he told me that the ati-Christian bias on the site was much worse back around 2012. The militant atheists don't have as much power as they did back then. However, the anti-Christian bias obviously is still very bad, especially on YEC topics, which I have been dealing with for years already. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)

== Block length ==

Thanks for your alert block of new user "CPishilarious", but I'm going to change the block duration from 2 years to 1 month. Long blocks are disfavored on wikis because they block the IP address as well as the user. The IP address could be a library or other general access IP address, or the user could move or be a college student, or the user could have a change of heart. But thanks again for your quick action.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:OK, and you're welcome. I have seen blocked vandals come back with their same accounts after their blocks expire, so I wanted to protect against that. But I will shorten blocks like these in the future. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)
::Thanks so much for your alert block this morning, but again the block duration is too long. Another user could be trying to use that same IP address within a few months, or the user himself could have a change of heart. I'll shorten it to 4 months. Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:25, 4 December 2017 (EST)
:::Andy, it feels like I'm the only editor you're messaging about block length, ''even though my blocks are much shorter than most other editors.'' For example, just yesterday, I blocked two accounts for six months for having a silly username and for (relatively) non-serious vandalism, but shortly later, DMorris reset the blocks for 5 years. See here: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Bernieman][http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hillary_clinton] If you're going (for good reason) to message me for my blocks, please do the same for the other editors who prefer even longer blocks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:33, 4 December 2017 (EST)
:::But yes, I will still shorten my blocks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:36, 4 December 2017 (EST)

== Suggested article ==

Here is an article suggestion:

*[[Donald Trump and evangelicals]]

I think there would be public interest in such an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)
:Thanks. If I get time, I will start this article. I will add it to my list of articles to create. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 9 December 2017 (EST)

== Two things ==

For one, why do you not have email enabled? Secondly, consider longer blocks for these obviously malicious accounts. You can block an account for infinity and the autoblock on the IP still only lasts 24 hours. There is no reason for these sleeper accounts to come back to life three months later. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:19, 13 December 2017 (EST)

:In his defense, he was doing longer blocks until [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length|Andy started asking him not too]], then [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length_2|reminded him again]]. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:25, 13 December 2017 (EST)

::Yes, for crying out loud, why am I the only one being criticized for my block lengths? If I make my block lengths long, Andy posts on my talk page, and if I make my block lengths shorter, DMorris posts on my talk page.

::DMorris, please talk to Andy about this. I will continue making my blocks on the shorter side until your differing opinions are sorted out.

::About my email, I have my email address posted on my user page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2017 (EST)

== Articles of the year: 2017 - your article is being featured on the main page (left side) ==

*[[Donald Trump achievements]]

*[[European migrant crisis]]

*[[Atheists and genetic mutations]]

Keep up the good work.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:12, 24 December 2017 (EST)

== Nationalism v Globalism ==

I went ahead and added a link to the Gardner article on the Nationalism v Globalism article for you. I figured since we were referencing it, it would be good to see the original article too.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:52, 7 January 2018 (EST)
:Thanks! I already saw and added it to other articles where I mentioned Gardner. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:53, 7 January 2018 (EST)

==Homeschooling==
I deleted the paragraph on Texas requirements (which I originally added) since it was duplicative of the information I added from HSLDA (which covers all 50 states) regarding state requirements. I left the New Hampshire one since it involved a court imposing its will on a family in violation of state law.

I'm glad you liked my original work, but after finding something better and covering more than just one state, I amended my original work. Though after your comments, I revised it to explain that another state court (Texas) made homeschooling far easier than before. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 17:22, 29 January 2018 (EST)

:Thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 29 January 2018 (EST)

==Deep State==
I will agree with your removal of the word "theory", but I did add the phrase "(or are believed to control)" because there are many conservative Christians who are not totally convinced that the deep state really exists. I believe my edits will be a happy medium between those who hold to the deep state view and those who do not. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)
:I kept most of your "is believed/considered" wording (except for the first sentence, which is unnecessary as the first sentence already makes clear that "deep state" is a term and not necessarily reality. I found most of your other changes to be too wordy and unnecessary, so I reverted some of it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (EST)
::I looked at your revisions and all you did was revert to your original article, with a few minor edits to try to convince me that you really took my suggestions into consideration. Basically what you did to the article is like putting wood filler and new paint on a house with termite rot. I've dealt with folks like you over on "the other site", who think that once they write an article, it's perfect and can't accept any changes to it. I'm not going to waste time with this one any more; clearly you're trying to espouse tinfoil hat conspiracy theory under the guise of "Christian conservatism". [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:22, 31 January 2018 (EST)
:::Much of your changes involved inserting parenthetical notes, which I think made the article more bloated than it had to be. The "or are believed to control" phrase in the first sentence was simply unnecessary and overemphasized your disbelief in the deep state. The part about Wall Street was cited to a good research article, so I don't think we need the "is believed" language for that. But I will still see if I can incorporate more of your edits.
:::About the existence of the deep state, it and the drive for one-world government are things that should be common and uncontroversial knowledge -- but people (both supporters and detractors) "conspiracize" these things and that's how accusations of me wearing a tinfoil hat come about. Look at the evidence -- most of our society (except theologically conservative Christians, most of them probably being premillennialist) accept the Idea of Progress, adopted during the Enlightenment Era. They believe that humanity is progressing for the better, and that this will lead to a one-world utopia with world peace and freedom for humanity (read Kant, for example). Thus, they believe that national identity, subsidiarity, and national sovereignty are growing useless and antiquated and actually are impediments to this utopia. This flows into their policies -- advancing international organizations, taking away national sovereignty, etc. As for the deep state, just look at the whole DOJ/FBI stuff going on right now, or the fact that Republicans and Democrats hire administration personnel from the same group of organizations -- CFR, Trilateral, etc.
:::The garbage that there is some secret conspiracy by liberals to take over the world, that their motives are malevolent, that they want to do evil, that this is a short-term project, and that the Illuminati is involved with all this -- this is all garbage perfectly fit for "the other site". In reality, the drive for a one-world utopia is one of the fundamental philosophical views in our culture, and liberals openly see it as natural/normal/benign (and they're in it for the long haul). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:04, 31 January 2018 (EST)

== Suggested Name Change for [[Christmas and Easter Catholic]] ==
I propose changing this to "Christmas and Easter Christian", since the phenomenon of persons attending church on those days is by no means limited to Catholics. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 16:17, 30 January 2018 (EST)
:I disagree. I recommend that a separate article entitled "Christmas and Easter Christian" be created -- C&E Catholicism is a notable concept on its own right, enough to have its own article. I think an article on C&E Christianity in general would be a good addition. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 30 January 2018 (EST)
::What's the difference? Both are the same phenomenon -- "so-called" Christian believers who attend only during those two holidays (or weddings and funerals). The current article is fine, it just needs to be revised to not pick on one branch of Christianity. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:17, 31 January 2018 (EST)
:::I've heard Roman Catholics specifically mentioned much more than other Christians when hearing about this "phenomenon." But I will ask another editor of his opinion on this. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:32, 31 January 2018 (EST)

==Campaign promises==
Hello,

The thought occurred to me that Wikipedia does not normally catalog campaign promises.(It never has, that I have seen) Elections there follow a formula of "what did they actually do after getting elected" and election results - which is both boring and completely useless, because we have a big problem with people running for office one way and then governing another way. This leaves a glaring hole of accountability with all of our politicians and it also offers us an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from Wikipedia. What do you think about this? I made a few changes [[Bruce Rauner|here]] as an example start. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 15:00, 4 February 2018 (EST)
:I think your suggestion is a great idea -- we have too many politicians who make really great promises during election campaigns, but they later act like they never even made those promises. When Rauner and his GOP primary opponent (Jeanne Ives) sat down with the ''Chicago Tribune'' editorial board a few days ago, Rauner said that he never promised he would veto a major pro-abortion bill that he ultimately signed (he actually explicitly promised he would multiple times).[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/30/jeanne-ives-crushes-gop-gov-bruce-rauner-illinois-candidates-meet-first-time/][http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/31/conservative-jeanne-ives-rips-il-gov-bruce-rauner-abortion-flip-flop/]
:I can also think of Sen. Thom Tillis of NC who campaigned against amnesty in 2014 and is now advocating for a "conservative" amnesty bill (though it's inferior to the Goodlatte bill).
:I support your suggestion. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 4 February 2018 (EST)

== FPÖ ==

Hi, I just wanted to ask you why you have removed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Party_of_Austria&diff=1403167&oldid=1403166 my entry] on the article of the Freedom Party of Austria. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreisky%E2%80%93Peter%E2%80%93Wiesenthal_affair Kreisky–Peter–Wiesenthal affair] is an important event in the history of this party that should not be discreeted.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 09:41, 7 February 2018 (EST)
:First off, the info was inserted right in the middle of a paragraph discussing the FPO's ideological development and alliance with the SPO. Your info was out of place.
:Second, the info was unduly wordy. I am sick of seeing the media and leftists do everything in their power to tie right-wing conservative parties like the FPO to Nazi Germany, such as by unduly emphasizing those aspects of the parties and calling them "far-right", "extreme right", "ultra-right", etc. By American conservative standards, these parties are actually quite moderate, and for those of us who realize that Nazism is a vastly overrated threat (placed alongside climate change by the Left), such parties have clearly moved away from their pasts.
:I don't want our articles to accept the left-wing narratives of these right-wing populist parties. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:50, 7 February 2018 (EST)
::Well, all the informations I have put in the article were confirmed with trustworthy sources. [[Simon Wiesenthal]] who accused the FPÖ leader Friedrich Peter of being part in a unit which committed massacres against jews, was himself a Conservative. Wiesenthal supported the (at that time very conservative) Austrian People's Party. So it is not easy to label his accusations as "left-wing narratives". I am also pretty sure that the Conservative government of Israel does not spread "left-wing propaganda" if they criticize the party for its charged history. Instead of simply removing facts from the article, you might emphasize how the FPÖ moved away from its past.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 10:01, 7 February 2018 (EST)
:::Israel is a Jewish state, so issues related to the Holocaust are sensitive to them. But as much as I support Israel and its right-wing government, Israel's position toward the FPO is irrational, and they are unduly obsessed with Nazism like Western Europe is. Israel's opinion on the FPO means very little because of the context -- it's easy to offend Israel on matters like this.
:::About Wiesenthal, I don't know anything about him, but him supporting the OVP does not mean much to me. If the party were "very conservative", why did it support the EU, Maastricht Treaty, Schengen Agreement, etc.
:::And yes, these are the narratives promoted by the Left, the establishment, and the media. These are the same people who were comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler during the election campaign and who tried to smear Breitbart News as anti-Semite (despite loads of evidence to the contrary), among many other cases. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:17, 7 February 2018 (EST)
::::Just because these "narratives" are promoted by the Left it does not mean that they are wrong. I can ensure you that Simon Wiesenthal was never a supporter of left-wing policies. As I already told you it would be better to emphasize the current measures by Strache to reappraise the controversial history of this party instead of denying it.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 11:20, 8 February 2018 (EST)
:::::They're wrong -- they overemphasize every small and petty incident related to parties like the FPO that allude to Nazi Germany. Their point in doing so is to make it seem like that if we elect these people/parties into power (including Donald Trump), we'll be repeating 1933 all over again and will usher in the end of freedom in Europe -- never mind that Germany is still enforcing the Nazi ban on homeschooling, or that many Western European countries have free speech restrictions even on topics like Islam and homosexuality, or etc. Conservapedia will not go along with the media -- we acknowledge that parties like the FPO are conservative and/or right-wing (not "far-right" or "neo-Nazi") and the best choice in order to protect/expand freedom and protect European culture/patriotism. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:58, 8 February 2018 (EST)

== request ==

Can you create this article: [[Donald Trump's major achievements]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 9 February 2018 (EST)
:This seems like a good idea, and I will do it. I won't do it immediately, since I have a lot of other things to do, but I will create it soon. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:54, 9 February 2018 (EST)
::OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (EST)

I'm very sorry about the article. If it make you feel like a advertisement. However, everything that is state is true. Thank you for your understanding. Pleased assist by make any corrections. That you think is necessary. When your time is most convenient.

Your brother in Christ,
Luke
:Thanks for your message, but the article I deleted is not acceptable for Conservapedia. There is nothing I can do to change that, unless you receive coverage from good sources (Breitbart, Fox, etc.). I'm keeping the other article for now, since it's one I can imagine keeping, but I'm discussing it with other editors to see what to ultimately do about it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Could you add some categories to my page please? [[User:Willow Smith|Willow Smith]] ([[User talk:Willow Smith|talk]]) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (EST)

==Response to your complaints==
From what appears EVERY time someone creates a new page or edits an existing one:

"Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here."

If the real rule is "any contributions by Conservapedia administrators -- no matter how good, bad, or ugly they may be -- are fixed for all time and never to be altered", then make that the rule. But don't invite someone to improve things, then complain because they do. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 10:26, 6 March 2018 (EST)
:Your bolding does not improve things. Also, nobody reverted your turning pages into redirects -- it's just a good idea to let people know before making major unilateral changes. If your complaint is that I'm messaging you about these things, then you have no real complaint at all. If you make edits here, you (like I was, and still am to an extent) are bound to be messaged about these things, which other editors do with the intention of improving others' editing. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 6 March 2018 (EST)

::Additionally, administrators and editors alike must watch the activity of others, especially newer editors. A few people have the hobby of trying to vandalize CP in any way possible, so excuse us if we sound cynical or obstinate, but some "new users" are actually just the same vandals as always. Since we don't really know you yet, we do our best to assume good intent, but can't afford to ignore what seems to be odd behavior.
::I'm sure you'll do fine, if you just listen to the recommendations of others and keep improving content. Thank you for your efforts, and for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:16, 6 March 2018 (EST)

==Thank you for the intro==
Just wanted to say thank you for the welcome! PS--Do you know what an eagle does when a storm approaches? [[User:Bcarlin|Bcarlin]] ([[User talk:Bcarlin|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

== Double standard article is now unprotected ==
1990sguy, I unprotected the [[Double standard]] article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:16, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (EDT)

== Regarding the Whale article ==

Hello,
I would like to know what caused you to revert my edits to the Whale article, and what I could do in the future to avoid this.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
:First off, I did not revert everything -- not even close. I reverted what appeared to be unnecessary wordiness on your part, along with your insertion of evolutionist-favored terms ("evolutionary biologists" instead of "evolutionists"--believe it or not, but people who believe in a young Earth can be evolutionary biologists too). If you keep your wording as concise as possible and if you choose your wording while keeping in mind that this is a conservative-Christian encyclopedia (thus, using terms favored by conservatives and Christians), then you won't be reverted. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:10, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
::OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll keep that in mind. I think I was correct about Darwin's views, though - could I reinstate that part?--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
:::Fine, but only if you change that part. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:27, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
::::Done. Thank you!--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:40, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
== Thanks for your edits ==

Thanks for cleaning up the edits to [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]. I was planning to do likewise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:13, 24 April 2018 (EDT)
:You're welcome, happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:15, 24 April 2018 (EDT)

== Ummm... how? ==

Ok... if not supernatural then how is evolution a folklore genre? I don't understand... Do you go to your doctor... Do you believe in evidence based medicine? If so, are you aware that many medicines and treatment methods are derived from experiment on animals... In your viewpoint why? If animals are COMPLETELY unrelated to us IN ANY WAY... then what is the point of experimenting and more importantly, why do those experiments help us develop pills and treatment of diseases? Why do the animals most close to us suffer from related diseases? Why do chimps suffer from HIV and not cockroaches? Just coincidence that our nearest relative is the one who suffers from problems more close to us? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 00:01, 25 April 2018 (EDT)

== Things for you to note ==

Ok... thanks... I feel like there are a couple of things you have to know about potholer54... First, he DOES NOT discuss the political regulations on climate change (https://youtu.be/MTJQPyTVtNA?t=10) in other words, he maintains that political part of the debate (whether conservative or not) is NOT his business. Also, he has criticized leftists for blowing up the effects of climate change (he has frequently said that science does not support earth being destroyed by climate change since in history there have been higher CO2 levels)... these are the reasons why I felt that my wording was correct, but I will not start arguing. Do as you wish. I only ask that if you modify my article please try expanding it (there are enough stubs and short articles here), and cite sources. Even if the sources would not be considered legitimate (by other's standards), citing the sources makes the article look good. I see too many articles, where the writer goes on and on without citing a single source.

About evolution. I do NOT agree with everything here. But I understand your mission. And I understand that people here feel differently and it is NOT my mission to undermine your work. I simply add and create pages which I think Conservapedia lacks, and I try to write from neutral point of view (more experienced people can edit it to sound more conservative, I do not want to seem like a troll).

I did as you commanded. I know the wiki that shall not be named is not welcome here, but I wanted people to have another way to contact me. Anyways, it is removed
--[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 19:09, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
:Responded on your talk page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:26, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

1)Yes... there are several instances of him trying to take the politics out of it... I'll send them later

2)When you say he "criticizes skepticism" as opposed to "denialism" the reader may have the impression that potholer is against being skeptical when in fact he is against what he considers to be denialsim... He is pro free speech, he welcomes questions, I have even spoken with him at length months ago. That is why I wrote what I wrote.

3)That's ok. While my interests change very unpredictably and rapidly, recently I am more interested in history, pseudohistory and archaeology, pseudoarchaeology articles.

4)I understand... I will obey. But just for curiosity, can I know where does that rule originate from? I have read the Guidelines and the Commandments and I did not see any mention of the site which calls itself that which it thinks Conservapedia is not? I do obey, and I respect, but just for interest, where is that rule documented and what is the purpose (since you seem to tolerate other anti-Conservapedia wikis like Lieberapedia) --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 20:48, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

:Responded again on your talk page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:31, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

::OK... Is there a way for me to add images (illustrations) to my articles? How do I do that and what is CP policy on that? Are google images, wiki images ok? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 21:43, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
:::You can post requests at [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]]. User:DavidB4 usually uploads the requests. If the image has a license that allows us to use it, we can upload it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:53, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

== Blocked me ==

Hey...
1)I thought that the ban meant that I was actually banned, meaning the site would prevent me from editing, so when I saw that I could edit, I thought it was ok... I did not know that you meant I should stay away from those topics. I simply thought the article used to many words, so I made it simple and more encyclopedic.

2)Your addition to my article is also written, don't get me wrong, a little too simply. I understand that editors here do not accept the scientific consensus on evolution, but at least you can write it more encyclopedically, like you state that scientists say that humans turned from dumb to intelligent and turned to farmers... That sounds like something a 12 year old would write... Can't you make it sound more scientific. I mean, disagree with it, but at least a)represent it correctly b)write it in a grown-up manner...

3)Why did you delete my "Gay Nazis" article... From what I understand, that is pseudo historical and Hitler hated gays and persecuted them?

By the way, thanks for a reasonable block time... I thought I might be blocked for another two years without a chance to explain myself --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 18:26, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:1) Topic bans mean you're not allowed to edit a topic, not that you don't have the ability to do so. Besides, regardless of your apparent misunderstanding, you removed content that you disagreed with, something I told you repeatedly not to do.
:2) Disapproving of my wording isn't a good reason to remove the entire thing, especially considering that it is one of the few examples in the article that secularists hate. Besides, we're supposed to give reasonably simple explanations when writing (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Style]]). My explanation is what the "scientific/historical consensus" essentially holds, and if that's the case, there's no reason to make it read like it was copied out of a prestigious journal. But regardless, I will see if there's any wording that I could change.
:3) It cited two explicitly left-wing sources that use this example to advocate for social-leftist policies and to criticize modern American conservatives. Surely there must be more apolitical sources out there about this? Also, regardless, it's good not to confuse Adolf Hitler's opposition to homosexuality (and the policies that came out of that) with homosexuality's presence in the Nazi Party. What I mean is that some high-ranking people in the Nazi Party, who helped found and build up the party (most notably Ernst Röhm), were homosexuals, and it's more complicated than "Nazis hated homosexuals."
:4) You're welcome. But also a warning: if you don't improve (and I hope you do improve), I will progressively increase the block lengths. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:55, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

::Ok, fine... But out of curiosity, does everyone on this site share your views on evolution, black holes, relativity, atheists etc? Is this site representative of Conservative (and/or Christian) values in general or a very specific type of sense? Do mainstream conservatives reference this site as an authority? And also, is there a rule (formal) where this has to be YEC or strictly Christian? Or is it an unspoken rule? Or does it depend on editors? I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, I am genuinely interested. One more thing, you told me that I could NOT become an admin/sysop because there were very few, yet you clearly have more authority than me. You block and unblock me at will... How can I get that authority? Thanks! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 23:39, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:::No, not everyone shares CP's views on these issues -- in fact, we've had some liberals and atheists edit CP on relatively good terms. However, most editors here (including myself, though I'm agnostic on the relativity info and opposed to the CBP) share the vast majority of CP's stated views. As the owner of CP, Andy obviously has the right to choose what it says.
:::CP is representative of, for lack of a better term, what I would call "full conservatism", rather than cafeteria conservatism, where people pick and choose what parts of conservatism they support and what they don't. There are many people (especially in Europe, but also here) who say they are conservative but share many views and even many underlying presuppositions of the globalist Left. CP is pretty consistent with our support for limited/small government and staying true to the values of the founding fathers.
:::It really depends on who you mean when you say "mainstream conservative" -- that's a slippery term that can mean different things.
:::I'm not an admin -- I'm technically an assistant admin, since I have many but not all sysop rights. Even getting those took a while, and it's all at Andy's discretion. If you become a good editor who respects CP's perspective and does not challenge them in any way, you'll probably get some rights eventually. But you were just blocked twice, and you're still having problems learning how to edit CP without undermining its perspective -- I don't think you should count on being promoted anytime soon -- focus on other things here for now. CP has a significantly stricter sysop policy than "the other website", and for good reason -- we're the target of parodists and other people who regularly seek to vandalize and undermine us, and we want to ensure that we don't have to deal with a parodist sysop or anything like that. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:09, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

== Sorry ==

Sorry, you'll have to explain that more... What do I not do? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 15:58, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

== Left Wing Sources ==

Hi... I do not usually look at the political leanings... I cite sources which I am SURE state something that is verifiable... Though, SPLC might be left leaning, I am SURE they can get Richard Spencer's birth date right... So I cited as a source for his birth date... The RWW, was a YOUTUBE video, that is the one I found first, I don't cite them to support left leaning politics, just facts that are verifiable by ANY honest person... I repeat SPLC might be left, but I am sure they can get a BIRTH DATE correctly! So that is what I cited, but do as you please! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 16:22, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
:Surely, there are better sources that give Spencer's birthdate than SPLC. Also, those sources are not merely "left-leaning" (that designation more properly belongs to something like "The Atlantic") -- they are far-left partisan interest groups. They have no business being here. As a conservative encyclopedia, it makes sense to predominantly rely on conservative sources (or, at least, apolitical sources). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:27, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

== Arguing With You ==

Lol.. You are trying to get me to argue about evolution... but the problem is that if I do that I (and ONLY I, ie NOT both of us) will get blocked... It's kinda dirty that you on one hand basically provoke me to argument and if I do respond to your arguments you have the authority to block me... Assuming, this time you really were interested and WILL NOT block me for simply RESPONDING TO WHAT YOU TOLD ME... It is my humble opinion, based on what you have said here, you do not understand what The Theory of Evolution actually is... You seem to think that evolution says that monkeys turned human and that macro evolution means that a new organism appears over time, although macro evolution is THE SAME as micro evolution only on a larger time scale (yes as simple as that)... You have made it clear NOT to correct these errors (ERRORS) so I respect conservapedia rules... I respect what you told me and I keep away from stuff that we disagree on and keep contributing what I can in good faith...

Last time we got into this argument, I pointed out a really good and simple thing... I told you how we can see the familial pattern and the animals closer to us suffer more ailments like us... I also pointed out that experiments on animals closer to us help us find treatment, this was a good point to think about... Instead you chose to ignore it... So I did NOT want to get blocked, so I simply let it go (again, respecting your opinions)... Yet you show NONE of this respect calling 200 years of research "junk science" simply because you have been unable to process this information... @Karajou is YEC too and he thinks that evolution is fake, but he does not push it, and he is not calling me out on "believing" (or understanding, as I prefer) evolution... He simply keeps what he believes to himself... I can respect that!

I am ready to respond if you have questions... But only if I am guaranteed not to get blocked like last time (after I RESPONDED to QUESTIONS addressed to me FOR 2 years)! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 20:40, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

:On a side note, I happen to know of a CP user who openly created a RW account. They were immediately interrogated on evolution as well.
:To the main issue, though, microevolution is not the same as macroevolution. You should really do some research on the subject. There is a significant difference between a change in fur length, and a change in species. That and other issues I disagree with you aside, I don't think you will or should get blocked simply for stating your opinion. As long as you continue to respect our polices regarding mainspace articles, you should be safe. (I don't know the details of the block, but I suspect there was more going on than just an angry response to your opposing opinion.)
:Anyway, I'm cutting in on this conversation, and I should really just let 1990'sguy speak for himself. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:00, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

::@Kingdamian1: I am '''not''' trying to argue with you about evolution. First off, I explicitly tried to end the discussion on Andy's talk page because I didn't want to use it arguing about political positions. Also, I was more focused on your political positions. We all know what you believe on evolution. I was tempted to ask clarifying questions about your ''political'' views, but I thought it wasn't worth it.
::Also, I actually don't care whether you believe in evolution. What I care about is the fact that you are apparently unable to put away your bias when editing CP. Your edits on the [[Potholer54]], [[Pseudohistory]], and [[Macroevolution]] inserted pro-evolution bias into CP (and keep in mind that your first edit after joining was creating a debate page on evolution where the first sentence insulted CP). As I noted elsewhere, you inserted bias on other topics in your edits. I don't care about your personal views on any of this (there are several CP users who believe in evolution) -- the fact that you are struggling to make your editing compatible with CP's point of view is a problem. Hopefully, you're learning.
::Claiming that I'm "''unable to process this information''" on evolution shows how little you actually know about me, and it's not a good strategy for staying on this site. I've thought a lot about this issue, and its strengthened my belief that the Bible is authoritative in all it says and that science affirms it as true (rather than Ephesians 6:14).
::DavidB4's comment above is correct, and to clarify to him, Kingdamian1 was blocked (by Karajou and me) for more than simply giving an opposing opinion. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:18, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
I CLEARLY have it on my page that I am a LIBERTARIAN... according to Conservapedia, that is what you would consider conservative, you keep telling me I admitted I was NOT conservative, where Conservapedia COUNTS Libertarianism as conservative... About evolution, I do NOT think you do not think about the subject, I think you look at it FROM A SINGLE point of view. I suspect that your view about evolution comes from strictly YEC... The first of your many mistakes, is saying that evolution=atheism, when in fact, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of religious people agree with evolution. If you really are honest and interest in BOTH sides and NOT JUST ONE... there are MANY videos you can watch...

I have these 2 videos I usually recommend as they are NOT boring and fun and also explain things in easy to understand terms...
If you are truly interested in BOTH sides, try to seat through these two videos. Watch them in order (1st and then 2nd) as one is kind of answering the rebuttal that followed (the rebuttal you may have in mind when watching the first one)... If you can sit through both of them calmly without getting agitated (They are NOT boring and easy to understand, filled with humor), please, get back to me and tell me (after watching BOTH completely) how has your view changed about what evolution actually is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnygS7opCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ilMYc5xdQ

--[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 23:59, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:KingDamian, you are bringing back an argument that has been refuted again and again and again. I've seen the videos you posted, and all it does is once more post an assumption that we must accept evolution as true based upon the word of a scientist who said so. So I'm going to ask you once, and I expect a straight up or down YES or NO answer, and it's based on the horse line at the end of video 2: DID YOU PHYSICALLY SEE THE ''EOHIPPUS'' CHANGE INTO THE ''EQUUS''? Keep in mind that I will not accept as an answer anyone pointing to the fossils themselves and saying we must assume a change took place. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:21, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

::Hi... No I have not seen it... But do you realize that if I had that would be THE SINGLE MOST POTENT evidence against evolution? Do you realize that? If I had actually observed the change that would be the single best evidence against evolution NOT for it... AGAINST IT! Do I make myself clear? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 00:26, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
:::And there you go. You haven't seen it happen. And neither has every single scientist who ever lived; they didn't see it happen either. And we have to sit here and take their word - and your's, I might add - that evolution did take place because they eyeballed a bunch of fossils and ''said'' a change took place? We have to ''assume'' the change happened because these guys put these fossils in a nice little line-up? This website will not accept evolution based on hearsay evidence; we will call evolution what it actually is - JUNK SCIENCE; and we will post direct evidence that contradicts what these supporters say about it. Do I make myself clear? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:49, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

I am not here to argue... I like CP... I think you are worthy of a response, so please don't block me, Brian. Evolution has not been observed? Did you watch it from beginning to end? Evolution Has been observed... What you asked me was if we had observed a SPECIFIC species change over millions of years with my eyes... no I have not. But I have not observed ancient English evolve into modern english either, i have not observed Latin change into Italian either... and you have not observed George Washington s life... so according to your logic, all of this must be junk science too Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
:No, evolution has not been observed; you are arguing, and you have been arguing since day one, when you know full well where we stand on the subject. It's stopping now. And I'm not going to stand for someone who demands we look at pretty pictures just to get us to believe in an assumption; we might as well assume a monkey evolved from a living room wall because Little Billy drew one on it with his crayons. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 07:18, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
::I agree with Karajou and DavidB4 (on his own talk page). Kingdamian1, your comments show you think I'm some "low-information" person who lives in a bubble who will immediately change my mind once I'm "enlightened" (emphasis on the scare quotes) -- your assumption is complete BS (it shows you have no clue who I am). I tried to end a discussion on Andy's talk page and you brought it up again on my talk page (and I didn't even have to be present for it to heat up). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:32, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
:::Also, I just saw [http://www.psypost.org/2018/04/scientific-reasoning-ability-not-predict-acceptance-evolution-among-religious-individuals-study-finds-51082 this study published in a scientific journal] (by evolutionists, with an evolutionist perspective) that admits that there's no correlation between one's level of education or intelligence and their acceptance of evolution. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:21, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
::::Here's a link to an article responding to the "You don't understand real evolution" argument: [https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2015/09/24/do-we-have-misconceptions-about-evolution/] AiG Also has many articles on the many "proofs" of Evolution that have been used ad Nauseum to attack creationism, such as this one about bacteria: [https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/antibiotic-resistance/is-antibiotic-resistance-proof-of-evolution/] Here's and article explaining why the changes that are actually observed are not even really "evolution": [https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/is-natural-selection-the-same-thing-as-evolution/] And here's a comprehensive list of some of the most common attacks against Creationist assertions: [http://creationwiki.org/Index_to_Creationist_Claims_(Talk.Origins)]

::::The thing is, Creationists are very well aware of the weapons used against them by Evolutionists and one of the biggest mistakes evolutionists make is assuming that Evolutionists know some critical piece of information that is a "knockout punch" to Creationism, when in reality, Creationists are very well aware of these assertions and have written many articles responding to them. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 23:55, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

One more thing. As Frank Turek, one of the foremost Christian apologists, says "Science doesn't say anything, scientists do." Whenever anyone says "Science says that..." what it should really be is "based on their interpretations of certain observations, scientists conclude..." When people say "Science says..." they are committing the fallacy of reification. A detailed explanation can be found here: [https://answersingenesis.org/logic/the-fallacy-of-reification/] Despite KingDamian1's claims that he is "not trolling" he has carried a rather rude and condescending tone typical of those who attack Creationism. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 13:16, 21 May 2018 (EDT)

:As User:Kingdamian1 is a new user, I feel like he/she should given another chance, rather than indeffed. After all, he/she seems really interested in improving Conservapedia and creating articles here, as evidenced from his/her multiple comments even on Wikipedia, requesting his unblock and his/her desire to change. Would there be any objections to me unblocking him/her, with him/her understanding that he/she is topic-banned from any science-related articles (since this seems to be the reason other editors are upset with him/her)? I hope this helps. With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 04:07, 23 May 2018 (EDT)
::We gave him a chance, and he had more than NPOV problems (which were in and of themselves annoying, since it was my role to check his articles). I was really annoyed at his expectation that he could be instantly promoted to adminship status (and his apparent desperation at it, since he messaged several editors several times about it), when it is very hard and takes a long time even to become an assistant admin. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:35, 23 May 2018 (EDT)

== Question ==

How do you ping someone? (i responded to you on my talk page) [[User:Qw23|Qw23]] ([[User talk:Qw23|talk]]) 17:21, 8 May 2018 (EDT)
:I don't think CP has a ping option. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:23, 8 May 2018 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm new to this project and I do need help with this sentence:
{{Quote|[[Mike Pompeo]] and the Trump administration helped secure the release of Kim Dong Chul, Kim Hak Song and Tony Kim from North Korea.{{cite news|author=Andrew O'Reilly|coauthors=Elizabeth Llorente|title=Trump administration finds success in bringing home detained Americans|url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/09/trump-administration-finds-success-in-bringing-home-detained-americans.html|work=[[Associated Press (AP)|Associated Press]]|publisher=[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]|date=9 May 2018}} The three men described their “deep appreciation” for the Trump administration for help freeing them.{{Cite news|last=Dorell|first=Oren|title='God Bless America': Freed American prisoners thankful after being released from North Korea|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/05/09/north-korea-kim-jong-un-free-3-american-citizens/582094002/|publisher=[[USA Today]]|date=9 May 2018|accessdate=10 May 2018|quote=We thank God, and all our families and friends who prayed for us and for our return}}</ref>}}

I believe it should go under [[Donald Trump achievements: Foreign policy]] but for 2018, which section do you believe it fits best under? Also, how do sources work here? --[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 15:14, 11 May 2018 (EDT)
:I already added this to the article, but I will look through your sources to see if more can be added. References could be surrounded by ref tags, like this : <code><nowiki><ref>[citation]</ref></nowiki></code> --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:29, 11 May 2018 (EDT)
::Hi [[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] I just want to let you know I'm glad I'm learning how to edit here. I just recently added the ISIS statements on [[Justin Trudeau]] and also mentioned [[Maxime Waters]] on this edit [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=2017_left-wing_violence&diff=prev&oldid=1422057]. I will allow you to monitor me if any edit I do is good or bad, and I will message you if I need anything. Regards.
--[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 10:03, 15 May 2018 (EDT)
:OK, thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:01, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

== A Message for that British Troll ==

Just in case (s)he makes another sock account, (s)he should know that campaign finance laws are unfair and D'Souza was directly targeted because of his unpopular opinions. Also, in the case of Roy Moore, there is only accusations and hearsay. That troll must also ignore the things that Leftist politicians did:

Bill Clinton: raped, molested and abused several women.

Hillary Clinton: Deflected responsibility for Bengazi, kept emails on her own private servers illegally, and covered up her husband's illicit affairs.

And I'm sure you could name more. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 09:21, 24 June 2018 (EDT)

== Conservapedia's Opinion on Joseph McCarthy ==

Hello,
I noticed that you reverted my edit to the Joseph McCarthy page. I made the edit to align with the views expressed in a news story I saw in the main page that described McCarthy as "two of a kind" with Robert Mueller. I feel that Conservapedia should be consistent, so I would appreciate it if the news story was removed/replaced, or the McCarthy article was changed.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 18:35, 16 May 2018 (EDT)
:I added sources from a reliable conservative source backing up the article. Besides, the sentence as it is now is more neutrally-worded than your wording (I think even the person who posted the news blurb could agree with it). Bottom line: the article is fine, but it's not worth fighting what is a good analogy (considering that we have many leftist readers who hate McCarthy) on the news feed. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:48, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

== About draft ==

I just replied to your email. Its for here, not for Wikipedia. --MaddieJ 14:45, 18 May 2018 (EDT)

== [[Brian and Ed Krassenstein]] ==

I created the article [[Brian and Ed Krassenstein]]. If you would like to do improvements and better grammar to it, feel free to do so. --[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 14:38, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

== Barack Obama's achievements ==

See: [[Essay: President Barack Obama's achievements]]

It required a lot less work than your article [[Donald Trump achievements]]. :)[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:59, 29 May 2018 (EDT)

:Ha! And the little that Obama actually did is being wiped away by President Trump right as we speak! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:22, 29 May 2018 (EDT)

==Finland==
I didnt find a way to send a message here so i assume, once its a wiki, that im supposed to edit this page when i want to contact you. Im not sure if i comment on the articles talk page, would it inform you?
I wanted to ask you about your edits of Finland's article, noticed few grammar mistakes that you corrected but didnt get why the day of independence cant be on the page? Then wanted to mention hat the the Lapps is a same name as Sami, so its like mention the same ethnic group twice.
Then i wondered why the population of the capital city shouldnt be mentioned?
The name of party Perussuomalaiset is in english "the Finns Party" not "True Finns".
There is also few smaller issues i will come back to them later. So would be nice to have a talk about these. Thanks. -Karjalainen

:First off, thank you for editing, and for messaging me here! The problem with the date of independence is that the infobox does not have a parameter (at least that I'm aware of) for the date of independence. This means that if you add the date of independence like what you did, the infobox will not actually show it to whoever is reading.

:I was not aware that the Lapps and Sami are the same. I will fix this. I will also fix the part about the Finns Party, since you're also right on this.

:I just didn't think it was necessary to list the population of Helsinki, especially since the population keeps changing and few editors are available to change it. But, if you want to add the population on the [[Helsinki]] article, you are free to do so.

:I noticed that you updated the economic information using Euros, rather than dollars. The reason why I changed it back is that most Conservapedia readers live in the United States, and the dollar is obviously what they use (and they probably don't know the exchange rate). We can mention the numbers in Euros, but we should also use dollars. Since I don't know the exchange rate, I did not add both.

:I hope all this helps! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:05, 22 July 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for answering.
I dont know if this info can be found but is CP based on the MediaWiki platfom? If yes, is it being updated when never versions come out?
Scrolling around some tutorial pages i found a template of countries where i took that "established" tag from, why does it exist if it doesnt show?
How do you edit the sources? I wanted to add but i dont see the other sources listed there?
Is there any plans to add to CP also other languages?
Is there a way to add both mi2/km2 or $/€ ? Would be nice to attrack also non-american readers and make this website even bigger and popular, maybe one day to replace wikipedia as the biggest.
I will write the issues concerning Finland on the talk page of Finland, please refer to there. -Karjalainen
:Sorry for the belated response. CP is based on the MediaWiki platform, but we use a different infobox than Wikipedia -- we didn't just copy and paste their infobox. We do update it, but I don't know how often.
:You can add sources by putting them in in between a tag like this <code><nowiki><ref>[source]</ref></nowiki></code>
:There are no plans to make CP in a different language that I am aware of, but I recommend asking Andy Schlafly, the site's owner here: [[User talk:Aschlafly]].
:Unfortunately, I do not know how to add both mi2/km2 or $/€ to the infobox.
:I will take a look at your message on the Finland talk page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:23, 26 July 2018 (EDT)

== Five solas ==

Hearty thanks, 1990'sguy, for your assist with [[Five Solas]]! --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:44, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
:You're welcome! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:24, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
== requested article: Trumponomics ==

Article request: [[Trumponomics]]. It would be a nice complementary article to our [[Obamunism]] article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:40, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
:I'll see what I can do. The [[Donald Trump achievements: Economic policy and labor]] (along with the trade sub-article) give a pretty good overview of his economic policies and the effects of those policies. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:48, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

==Contact==
I don't have yours, either. Use this: nobs315@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 23:07, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
:Mine is on my user page. You can verify there. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:18, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
==Capital Punishment==
By quoting Genesis 9:5 you are confusing what God is permitted to do versus what man may do and how man is to conduct himself in relation to his fellow man. It is also inaccurate to write that Jesus had nothing to say on the subject of capital punishment when he directly called into question the teaching of "eye for an eye."[[User:Tulip Festival|Tulip Festival]] ([[User talk:Tulip Festival|talk]]) 19:02, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
:No, Genesis 9:5-6 clearly says that the just punishment for taking a human life is that one's own life be taken. The proportionate and just punishment for murder is not jail time, nor community service. You're confusing what the Bible says regarding personal conduct and governmental policy, which is not personal. I recommend you read these two links: [https://www.gotquestions.org/death-penalty.html][https://answersingenesis.org/culture/the-death-penalty-wdjb-not-wwjd/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:15, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

== HTTP -->HTTPS update ==

As you probably saw, I have moved this list to: [[User:DavidB4-bot/HTTPS URL update project]]. Thank you for your additions to the list...my apologies for adding your entries to the new page under may name. I hope you don't mind. Please feel free to continue adding to that list. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:45, 10 September 2018 (EDT)
:Thanks, and thanks for creating this list! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:49, 10 September 2018 (EDT)

== i try ==

More than a single sentence? Okay I can try. [[User:Knockforpeace|Knockforpeace]] ([[User talk:Knockforpeace|talk]]) 19:29, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
::Sorry i have a disorder. I will try to add more. [[User:Knockforpeace|Knockforpeace]] ([[User talk:Knockforpeace|talk]]) 19:39, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
:::See [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:41, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
::::Tutoring avalible? By you? [[User:Knockforpeace|Knockforpeace]] ([[User talk:Knockforpeace|talk]]) 19:45, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
:::::Read and follow all of the links provided at the very top of this talk page. That will help you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:09, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

== Logician account ==

It wasn’t a troll. Could you unblock it? Also, I removed Russell and Whitehead’s Principia Mathematica because it’s supposedly recommended reading. Thing is though that it’s such dense and complicated symbolic logic that no one would actually be able to understand it. It shouldn’t be recommended reading. Anyway, thanks. [[User:Anaxagoras|Anaxagoras]] ([[User talk:Anaxagoras|talk]]) 12:36, 20 September 2018 (EDT)
:I will unblock the account (though I will procedurally block the "Anaxagoras" one), but do not remove the Principia Mathematica book. It may be dense and complicated, and it may be to the extent that laypeople can't understand it, but it should remain for those who can understand it and who will find it useful. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:50, 20 September 2018 (EDT)

== Re: [[Kavanaugh smear]] article name change ==

A high proportion of CP's readers lean left. I changed the title because I thought the new title would engender less cognitive resistance to these readers and therefore be more likely to change their mind. In addition, I thought the new title sounded more encyclopedic.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, 23 September 2018 (EDT)
:That's understandable, but the article is not about opposition to Kavanaugh in general, it's specifically about the accusations made against him by left-wing people (as opposed to people criticizing him with his judicial philosophy being the stated reason). I'm not opposed to the page being moved, but it would be a title that makes it clear that the article is specifically about the attempted rape allegations against him. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:37, 23 September 2018 (EDT)
::The allegations against him are a joke. It is a reflection that the Democrats are a sad joke. All the corroborating witnesses say the events never happened.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:14, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
::::Exactly -- they're politically-motivated character assassination, nothing more. Thus, "Kavanaugh smear" is an appropriate title for the article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:24, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

:::I have chimed in [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Kavanaugh_smear&curid=150814&diff=1450439&oldid=1450438 here]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 10:28, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

== Re: Switzerland vs. Britain ==

I believe you have visited Switzerland.

Below is a post I made to some left leaning atheists/evolutionists.

Gentlemen,

Don't think I haven't noticed your silence on Swiss trains being more timelier than British trains. What's your excuse for British trains being less timelier than Swiss trains?

Just admit it. The [http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/06/switzerland-beacon-of-european.html industrious and wealthy Swiss], who have one of the highest rates of creationism in Europe, have a better, wealthier and more efficient society than post Darwinism Britain.

By the way, deny that Britain is the fountainhead of Darwinism and lose all credibility!

=== Main page right post in question ===

'''The British recently had a hard''' time getting their trains to run on time.[https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45572736]

According to [[Wikipedia]], "The Swiss rail network is noteworthy for its density, its coordination between services, its integration with other modes of transport, timeliness and a thriving domestic and trans-alp freight system."

Why can't [[Britain]], the fountainhead of [[Darwinism]], compete with [[Switzerland]] which is known for having one of the highest rates of [[creationism]] [[per capita]] in Europe?[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/06/switzerland-beacon-of-european.html][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

:I have dual Swiss citizenship, so yes, I have visited the country multiple times. For the record, some (not many, though) of my relatives there are biblical creationists. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:37, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

==Formatting of quotes==

Thanks for the {{tl|cquote}} thing - I had forgotten that template. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 09:15, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
:You're welcome -- happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:21, 26 September 2018 (EDT)

== Trumpiantexan is a vandal ==

There's a Vandal called "Trumpiantexan" [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 18:53, 16 October 2018 (EDT)

== Why you said this so.. ==

...'' I don't know if his pro-Marx comments actually make him a communist. He's your typical globalist/liberal European uniparty elite.'' It is not mine definition but more a true fact. Regards, [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 11:15, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
:Most liberal/globalist European elites think the same way Juncker does. It would not be a good idea to label them all as communists. They have many of the same goals as communists, but there is some nuance between them (for example, different different tactics/methods, and Juncker and many of his friends are part of "liberal" or "center-right" parties, and seem to like big corporations). Either the "liberal" and "globalist" categories are enough (since liberals and globalists have many similarities with Marxists, like Juncker), or a new category is needed. I prefer the former, as it doesn't imply that liberalism and globalism are too different from Marxism and communism (different strands of the same thing, and the existing categories take the nuances into account). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:00, 20 October 2018 (EDT)

== Cesar Sayoc Article==
Wouldn’t a person with prudent ethics be willing to discuss whether or not a new article should be deleted prior to deleting said article? Cesar Sayoc is dominating the headlines of America yet you say he is a ‘nobody’? Based on your reasoning the [[Lee Harvey Oswald]] article should be deleted immediately.--[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 17:01, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
:Lee Harvey Oswald has historical significance -- and fortunately, we get the facts right, that he was a left-wing Marxist (a fact many on the Left like to ignore). The Cesar Sayoc guy may be dominating headlines (of the left-wing mainstream media and the Left, which want to capitalize on this single incident of a mentally ill man and put a rug over the [[Left-wing violence in the Trump era|many examples of leftist violence in the past couple years]]) at the moment, but his 15 minutes of fame will soon end and his 58-year jail sentence will soon begin. I let the other administrators know of the dispute over this page, and they will decide soon. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:08, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
::I got the facts right in the Sayoc article, I hope you are not implying otherwise. I’d like to think the Best of the Public could create an article free from liberal bias. Alas, it looks like the readers of Conservapedia will have to suffice with the liberal slant since you are keen to prevent this educational resource from telling the truth. Sad.--[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 17:35, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
:::All the facts except that he wasn't a bomber. ''Per the Associated Press'': {{quotebox|7:50 p.m. A law enforcement official says tests have determined that a powder found inside an envelope delivered to CNN along with a pipe bomb was harmless. The official wasn’t authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. New York City’s police commissioner said earlier Wednesday that the package sent to CNN’s offices in Manhattan contained a live explosive and an envelope containing white powder. The FBI said the package was similar to explosives sent to former President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Eric Holder and billionaire George Soros. The package sent to CNN was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, a frequent guest on the channel. The official says that parcel contained no note or claim of responsibility. — Tom Hays Associated Press, October 24, 2018}} [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 17:41, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
::A man sends bombs through the mail, and in your opinion, he is not a bomber? The director of the FBI is quoted as saying the devices were ‘…not hoax devices’. What, exactly, is your definition of a bomber?--[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 18:17, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
:::They were too hoax devices. You have terrible reading comprehension. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 01:44, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Why did you block me? All I did was state the obvious fact that Joe Manchin is a DINO. he voted to confirm Kavanaugh, confirm Gorsuch, and supports the coal industry. He's even more right-wing than Lisa Murkowski! [[User:Libertarianmoderate2|Libertarianmoderate2]] ([[User talk:Libertarianmoderate2|talk]]) 17:50, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
:Manchin lives in a state that voted for Trump by 40 points, and he knows it. He's appealing to the people of his state so he doesn't alienate them. Take a broader view, rather than look at the narrow set of issues where he made a big deal of supporting right-of-center people on -- for example, notice how he's voted against many of Trump's conservative circuit court nominees and several cabinet nominees. Also, when there were narrow votes for any nominee or bill, Manchin voted with Democrats -- he only voted with Republicans when his vote wasn't anywhere close to affecting the vote's outcome. And his support for Planned Parenthood is pretty extreme for a red-state Democrat who has claimed to be pro-life. I stand entirely by my reverts, and CP has never considered Murkowski a conservative, AFAIK. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:44, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
::And look at his record with the 2A -- he has a "D" rating from the NRA, a moderate (as opposed to GOA) pro-gun organization -- several Democrats even have better ratings than him.
::In short, Manchin only votes with conservatives in high profile votes when his vote is not a deciding factor in whether the bill/nominee will pass. He's not a conservative, and he's in line with the Democrat Party. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:54, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Sorry about that. In the meantime, I'm a very skilled wiki writer who wrote for Wikivoyage for a while, and my skills are exactly what this site needs. I hope you can overlook this disagreement. [[User:Libertarianmoderate2|Libertarianmoderate2]] ([[User talk:Libertarianmoderate2|talk]]) 19:58, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

==Pinging==
I tried to ping you, but it didn't work. I typed {d{Ping|1990'sguy}d} (remove the d's, I added them here so it comes out as text). [[User:Libertarianmoderate2|Libertarianmoderate2]] ([[User talk:Libertarianmoderate2|talk]]) 20:26, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

== Troll ==

Eleonóra Dubiczki is defacing the page on Rightpedia. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 14:47, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
:There's another one named Fiala, probably a sock of the same person. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 14:50, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

==UN migrant treaty==
We're gonna need a [[UN Migrant Treaty]] page. To begin, we need a thumbnail sketch what it is, then a list whose all opposed. Do you have any info to help start? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 15:46, 22 November 2018 (EST)
:Yes -- or [[UN Global Compact on Migration]] or something like that. Several countries have already said they will leave, so it will take some effort to track them all down. I can help. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 22 November 2018 (EST)
::Coincidentally, I found this article giving a good list: [https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/22/world-follows-trumps-lead-nations-abandon-legal-framework-building-un-migration-pact/] I can create and/or expand the article, if you want. I think the biggest issue will be what the title should be. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 22 November 2018 (EST)
:::I'd suggest UN Migrant Treaty, then bolden the formal title; its already being discussed as "the [[migrant treaty]]". Moves & redirects can be done as needed. But both the [[European migrant crisis]] and [[2018 Migrant caravan]] already need minor subsections or references to it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 19:53, 22 November 2018 (EST)
::::I started it. I will do more work tomorrow, if I have time. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:56, 22 November 2018 (EST)

==Wanna chat?==
Hey, I'm curious if I could get to know you. I like your edits. [[User:AnnBelleAldaco96|AnnBelleAldaco96]] ([[User talk:AnnBelleAldaco96|talk]]) 22:00, 28 November 2018 (EST)

:You can either contact me through my CP email address or through this talk page. I won't reveal/discuss personal/private info about myself (obviously), but I'd be happy to talk. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:32, 28 November 2018 (EST)

== Does CP hate video games? ==

I think the tone of the video games article is a little too critical. If you truly are a 1990's guy, then you probably grew up with video games too. You probably also remember the controversy of video game violence back in the 90s too (perhaps there should be a section in the article on that). Ironically, the members of Congress who pushed for potential legislation were two Democrat senators, Joe Lieberman and Herb Kohl. I was, along with my fellow kids of the 90s, booing and jeering at the old people who knew nothing about video games criticizing our hobby. There is a reason why the article "Essay:Greatest Conservative Video Games" exists. Most of the people who criticize video games are older people who didn't grow up with them. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 11:15, 29 November 2018 (EST)

:To be clear, the 1990s was the decade I was born in, so unfortunately, I don't have firsthand knowledge of the controversies of that decade. I played some video games, though not as much as other people, and only on my Gameboy and Nintendo DS, and I lost all interest by the time I turned, roughly, 13.

:I have nothing against video games in and of themselves, and I still think positively of some of the games I played. However, I think many of the criticisms of video games -- such as encouraging obesity and staying indoors rather than going outside -- are valid. Also, video game addition appears to be a real problem: [https://www.foxnews.com/tech/girl-9-sent-to-rehab-after-refusing-to-stop-playing-fortnite-wetting-herself][https://www.foxnews.com/health/compulsive-video-game-playing-now-qualifies-as-mental-health-condition] Those problems probably aren't inherent to video games, though -- they can and are used in good, harmless ways too, as I have experienced. That said, it's not a topic that I have strong feelings on.

:About the article itself, it is Andy's choice to have the article the way it is. There is nothing I can do about it -- it would have to be something you would have to discuss with him if it should be changed. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:20, 29 November 2018 (EST)

== Explaination of edits to the page regarding Thomas Aquinas and theft ==

Did Aquinas endorse theft?

Without the full quote from the Summa Theologica it would appear so, However:
Whether it is lawful to steal through stress of need?
Objection 1: It would seem unlawful to steal through stress of need. For penance is not imposed except on one who has sinned. Now it is stated (Extra, De furtis, Cap. Si quis): "If anyone, through stress of hunger or nakedness, steal food, clothing or beast, he shall do penance for three weeks." Therefore it is not lawful to steal through stress of need.

Objection 2: Further, the Philosopher says (Ethic. ii, 6) that "there are some actions whose very name implies wickedness," and among these he reckons theft. Now that which is wicked in itself may not be done for a good end. Therefore a man cannot lawfully steal in order to remedy a need.

Objection 3: Further, a man should love his neighbor as himself. Now, according to Augustine (Contra Mendac. vii), it is unlawful to steal in order to succor one's neighbor by giving him an alms. Therefore neither is it lawful to steal in order to remedy one's own needs.

On the contrary, In cases of need all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another's property, for need has made it common.

I answer that, Things which are of human right cannot derogate from natural right or Divine right. Now according to the natural order established by Divine Providence, inferior things are ordained for the purpose of succoring man's needs by their means. Wherefore the division and appropriation of things which are based on human law, do not preclude the fact that man's needs have to be remedied by means of these very things. Hence whatever certain people have in superabundance is due, by natural law, to the purpose of succoring the poor. For this reason Ambrose [*Loc. cit., A[2], OBJ[3]] says, and his words are embodied in the Decretals (Dist. xlvii, can. Sicut ii): "It is the hungry man's bread that you withhold, the naked man's cloak that you store away, the money that you bury in the earth is the price of the poor man's ransom and freedom."

Since, however, there are many who are in need, while it is impossible for all to be succored by means of the same thing, each one is entrusted with the stewardship of his own things, so that out of them he may come to the aid of those who are in need. Nevertheless, if the need be so manifest and urgent, that it is evident that the present need must be remedied by whatever means be at hand (for instance when a person is in some imminent danger, and there is no other possible remedy), then it is lawful for a man to succor his own need by means of another's property, by taking it either openly or secretly: nor is this properly speaking theft or robbery.

Reply to Objection 1: This decretal considers cases where there is no urgent need.

Reply to Objection 2: It is not theft, properly speaking, to take secretly and use another's property in a case of extreme need: because that which he takes for the support of his life becomes his own property by reason of that need.

Reply to Objection 3: In a case of a like need a man may also take secretly another's property in order to succor his neighbor in need.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquinas/summa/sum322.htm

"In cases of need all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another's property, for need has made it common" is not in the Summa Theogica and is therefore inaccurate and misleading. The quote should be:

"It is not theft, properly speaking, to take secretly and use another's property in a case of extreme need: because that which he takes for the support of his life becomes his own property by reason of that need."

I will therefore change the quote to the correct quotation. {{unsigned|JPConservative}}

:Look again -- both quotes are there, and they're quoted accurately. The article is correct in saying that Aquinas does not take a strong position on property rights as other conservatives (including John Locke, the intellectual father of the founding fathers) held. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:39, 11 December 2018 (EST)

The quotes used misses out that Thomas Aquinas was referring to those who might die of starvation, not merely out of need. The original quotes in the article imply that he supported "Socialism" which is not so. Aquinas did take a strong stand on property rights, he made one exception, those who face death can take some food (and by implication, water & clothing.) This is the interpretation that the Catholic Church uses and is supported by the majority of Thomists. {{unsigned|JPConservative}}

:Once again, the quote mentioning hunger was already quoted in the paragraph. Also, the paragraph doesn't say that he supported socialism, but that it represented a slippery slope. Either way, his position is weaker than that of some other intellectuals who wrote on property rights. I might (possibly) be OK with a single short sentence/phrase saying that overall he supported property rights, if you can back it up, but the specific info you're citing does not back it up. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:03, 11 December 2018 (EST)

Yes hunger is mentioned, but the meaning has been distorted, I can assure you that having studied the Summa Theologica in a monastery guided by a Thomist professor that the section on Politic Philosophy is wrong. It is not a correct interpretation of Aquinas's political views. Thomas Aquinas clearly upholds property rights in the Summa Theologica:

I answer that, Two things are competent to man in respect of exterior things. One is the power to procure and dispense them, and in this regard it is lawful for man to possess property. Moreover this is necessary to human life for three reasons. First because every man is more careful to procure what is for himself alone than that which is common to many or to all: since each one would shirk the labor and leave to another that which concerns the community, as happens where there is a great number of servants. Secondly, because human affairs are conducted in more orderly fashion if each man is charged with taking care of some particular thing himself, whereas there would be confusion if everyone had to look after any one thing indeterminately. Thirdly, because a more peaceful state is ensured to man if each one is contented with his own. Hence it is to be observed that quarrels arise more frequently where there is no division of the things possessed.

The second thing that is competent to man with regard to external things is their use. In this respect man ought to possess external things, not as his own, but as common, so that, to wit, he is ready to communicate them to others in their need. Hence the Apostle says (1 Tim. 6:17, 18): "Charge the rich of this world . . . to give easily, to communicate to others," etc.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquinas/summa/sum322.htm

Yes, I can back up my claims. The quoted I cited are from authorized sites. I have used the quotes as written and provided links, so please explain how I am wrong?

Here is additional proof that Thomas Aquinas upheld property rights https://tifwe.org/five-insights-about-private-property-from-aquinas/
{{unsigned|JPConservative}}

I have added further material to refute the idea that the writings of Thomas Aquinas can be used to support Socialism. If you edit or remove it, please first demonstrate that I am wrong. Thank you & God Blessings be with you.

==just an idea...==
What do you think of coining the term [[anti-constitutionalist]] to describe people who oppose constitutionalists? People who oppose free speech, gun rights, due process, etc. There certainly are a lot of them in the upcoming session of Congress.

First, we'd need a working definition, then a list of members with their stated positions. The idea may catch on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 23:52, 12 December 2018 (EST)

:I like it. What do you think of a definition along the lines of "someone who opposes the rights contained in the Constitution, and by extension, the United States as envisioned by the founding fathers"? This is just a draft proposal, the wording wouldn't be final. Maybe we should note that the Constitution reflects a classical liberal philosophy, showing that these "liberals" reject liberalism? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:06, 13 December 2018 (EST)
::Yes. In various articles [[Justice Kavanaugh]] is refered to as a constitutionalist, so I suspect we'll be hearing more of term in the future.

::Now, advocates for Amending the Constitution wouldn't automatically fall into this category. People who want to abolish the Electoral College or hold a constitutional convention, for example - if that is their single issue. I'm thinking of people who want outright repeal of the 2nd Amendment, advocate free speech suppression and censorship, disrespect due process and the presumption of innocence as in the Kavanaugh and Judge Moore cases, or ignore the 4th Amendment violations of the FBI & DOJ. Anyone who holds two or more of these positions could be considered an anti-constitutionalist.

::One more thing, I've discovered that whoever is among the first to create a page with a new term entering the public lexicon, Google algorithms favor and can hold a high ranking for years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 00:26, 13 December 2018 (EST)

:::About the Electoral College and Con Con distinction, it think that's fair, and it would be good to at least make a distinction between the two. We would need to make this clear to readers, though. That said, one could argue that wanting to change the Constitution on something as important as the Electoral College also a rejection of the U.S. as envisioned by the founding fathers. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:46, 13 December 2018 (EST)
::::That's right. That's why I'm thinking two or more. Somebody who wants to abolidh the electoral college and repeal gun rights, then refuses due process and presumption of innocence, and is okay with illegal domestic spying, is an anti-constitutionalist. Throw in support for [[Medicare for All]] and they call themselves a progressive or Democratic Socialist, it's pretty clear they want to tear down the two party system. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 21:34, 13 December 2018 (EST)
::::We shouldn't spell out our criteria on the page before naming names, and if we put everybody on the list who belongs, it would be too long and nobody would read it. We simply need a paragraph or two or three to define in philosophical terms what makes someone opposed to our system of government, and then in the next section spell out a few leaders what positions they've taken to supoort the label, Pelosi, Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, and other high profile figures we can cite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 21:40, 13 December 2018 (EST)
:::::The draft below looks great -- and it accurately describes the modern Left. Is "collective responsibility" (#6) the left's counter to states' rights? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 06:26, 14 December 2018 (EST)
::::::On number 6 that's right. I don't recall the exact language on Form 1040 related to the Obamacare individual mandate. I should dig it out and tweak it.
::::::Anyway we got enough to get started. It'll change over time. We should be on the look out for buzzwords and phrases that help define an Anti-Constitutionalist.
::::::As the 2020 election approaches, rather than a long list on the page, we can just create a Category. And the beauty of this idea is, in keeping with liberalism, they don't have to adhere to a strict set of principles, all they have to do is exhibit a few characteristics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 16:16, 14 December 2018 (EST)

===Pattern===
I googled around and found most definitions of constitutionalist are cut n pastes of each other. Some have lists of principles, but remember, anti-constitutionalists have no principles, they have characteristics. To be an anti-constitutionalist, you don't have to conform or adhere to a list of principles, you just have to resemble a few characteristics.

This came ftom the Urban Dictionary. So all we need to do is tweak the language away from it's original documents or meaning into something other, or it's opposite:

Constitutionalist
1. An individual that shares the views of the political theories of John Locke and the founders of the American republic, that government can and should be legally limited in its powers, and that its authority or legitimacy depends on its observing these limitations.

2. An individual who believes in the basic standards and ideals are to be consistent with an overriding rule of law or ethics.

The 7 principles of a Constitutionalist:

1. Life: For all human beings, from conception to natural death;

2. Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions for the self-governed individual;

3. Family: One husband and one wife with their children as divinely instituted;

4. Property: Each individual's right to own and steward personal property without government burden;

5. Constitution: and Bill of Rights interpreted according to the actual intent of the Founding Fathers;

6. States' Rights: Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government, nor prohibited by the Constitution to the states, is reserved to the states or to the people;

7. American Sovereignty: American government committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense of Americans, and not entangled in foreign alliances.

===Draft 1===
Here's a start. Now remember. we sort of want to use their own langusge, logic, meaning, and reasoning, so when they read it, they're looking in a mirror. Characteristic #2 needs some work. Feel free to change or suggest anything.

Anti-Constitutionalists

Persons who reject the views of the political theories of [[John Locke]] and the founding fathers of the American republic, that government can and should be limited in its powers. Anti-Constitutionalists believe in the supremacy of federal power over individual rights.

2. Persons who believe in the basic standards and ideals are to be consistent with [[progressive]] values and the rule of law.

The 7 characteristics of many anti-constitutionalists:

1. Life: For all human beings, and a [[pro-abortion|right to choice]].

2. Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions to suppress [[fascist]] ideals;

3. Family: Equal rights to marry anyone among 58 known genders;

4. Diversity: Out of one, many.

5. Constitution: Outdated and written by white male slaveghlolders;

6. Collective Responsibilty: A duty not a choice;

7. Sovereignty: The universal power, authority, and kinship of the human species.

==Can you unblock me please?, I want to improve Dirty War pg==

Got your message loud and clear and want to keep creating pages for Conservapedia but only under 1 account name. Thanks again.--[[User:Raymondo|Raymondo]] ([[User talk:Raymondo|talk]]) 08:56, 13 December 2018 (EST)
:The account you used to write on my talk page is unblocked. You can use that one. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:34, 13 December 2018 (EST)

Thanks for unblocking me, greatly appreciated.--[[User:Raymondo|Raymondo]] ([[User talk:Raymondo|talk]]) 07:53, 25 December 2018 (EST)

Hello again, can we change the following page title [[Battles of Mount Kent and Top Malo House]] to [[Battle of Mount Kent and Top Malo House]], remove the "s" from battles, once again thanking you very much and all the best in the new year.--[[User:Raymondo|Raymondo]] ([[User talk:Raymondo|talk]]) 20:17, 25 December 2018 (EST)
:Hello, please request this change at [[User talk:DavidB4]], as I currently do not have move powers. He will move the page for you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:25, 25 December 2018 (EST)

::Done as requested: [[Battle of Mount Kent and Top Malo House]] --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:14, 26 December 2018 (EST)

== Appeal ==

Hi. I noticed I can't edit anything to appeal my block [[Special:Contribs/Edenfaithful|here]]. I'm sorry if you thought my edits were trolling; they weren't. AOC does actually want a government-enforced redistribution of wealth via her universal basic income ideas and other concepts. I won't use this account to do anything other than appeal; it's not meant to be harmful. I want to contribute. [[User:Tempacctformessage|Tempacctformessage]] ([[User talk:Tempacctformessage|talk]]) 13:38, 25 December 2018 (EST)
:I have unblocked your account. In the future, please do not make any edits that could be seen as trolling or parody -- your edits on AOC may have been true, but this is an encyclopedia -- all wording should be encyclopedic. If you're going to add particularly strong language like that, it should at least be cited by a good conservative news source. Otherwise, it's personal commentary, which should stay on your user page or an "essay" page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:37, 25 December 2018 (EST)

== Internet control ==

Hello, 
I have a random question which I was wondering if you might know the answer to. When Obama was in office, he released control of the Internet to the W3C (an international organization). In the opinion of many conservatives including myself, this was a big mistake. I since heard in vague terms that Trump had somehow put a stop to the transfer and retained at least partial control. However, my research attempts have turned up little of value. Do you know if this is something Trump has done, and if so, to what extent? Thank you! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:00, 8 January 2019 (EST)
:I remember noting that there was a bit of a controversy between Ted Cruz and the Commerce Department nominee most in charge of this topic area, but the nominee agreed to "look into it" (whatever that means): [http://thehill.com/policy/technology/359325-trump-pick-confirmed-to-telecommunications-federal-agency 1],[https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/trump-commerce-pick-internet-oversight-reversal-305178 2],[http://thehill.com/policy/technology/370426-trump-commerce-pick-told-lawmakers-he-would-look-at-reversing-obama-move-on 3] I looked into it further, and found these opinion articles ([http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/89-r/997-trump-wants-u-s-to-take-over-internet-governance-like-putin 1],[https://lawreview.unl.edu/Should-the-U.S.-Reclaim-Control-of-the-Internet 2]), which indicate that nothing was done, though I also found [https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/06/05/ntia-internet-policy-noi-jun18.pdf this notice in the Federal Register] where the Commerce Department asked what should be done with the transfer. The government is looking into it, but so far, I have not found anything saying that an official policy change has been enacted.
:I am very interested in this, and I think whatever decision the government makes, it will be relevant to the [[Donald Trump achievements]] series -- so if you find anything else, or if the government makes a decision in the future, please let me know. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:27, 8 January 2019 (EST)

::"Looking into it...." I feel so much better now. I thought I probably would have heard something if action had been taken, but figured I'd check with you. I will keep my ears, and if I hear anything, will let you know. I expect it would be relevant to the achievements pages, hopefully in a positive way. Thank you for the information! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:33, 8 January 2019 (EST)
:::I suppose I must admit that one of the main arguments from the left is true...we were not evenly allocating IP addresses. However, if we invented the internet, do we really need to evenly distribute them? Using Network Address Translation, IPv4 has worked quite well. As we began running out of addresses even then, IPv6 was set up in some parts of the world, which gives us MANY more addresses to work with. Should everyone be switched over to IPv6? Yes, probably. However, just giving away all control of the internet to an organization which may as well be a U.N. of sorts can't be a good solution. I also hope the W3C doesn't start setting up new root servers in more...questionable locations. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:39, 8 January 2019 (EST)
::::The Left and globalists don't want the U.S. to be dominant, independent/sovereign, or self-sufficient, so that explains why they chose to give away our control of the internet to a "fair" international organization that socialist, Islamic, anti-American, and autocratic governments can control just as much, if not more, than our country. Globalists and the Left would prefer that the U.S. just follows along with the "rules-based international order" rather than take leadership and go its own way. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:36, 8 January 2019 (EST)

== Seraphim 2 ==

What led you to believe this is a sock account? [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 15:48, 23 January 2019 (EST)
:It was created during a vandalism spree, and once or twice, the vandal(s) created two accounts simultaneously and started vandalizing through both of them. This account was created at the same time as another account (can't remember which one) which began continuing the vandalism, appearing to follow the trend. Thus, I blocked the other account and then blocked this one before (I assumed) it started vandalizing. If it doesn't seem suspicious to you, then please unblock it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:04, 23 January 2019 (EST)
::I would try to avoid doing that in absence of evidence because there have been cases on other wikis when innocent parties have been blocked like this, but I'm not going to undo the block at this time. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 17:23, 23 January 2019 (EST)

== Your wiki work on Trump was alluded to in a web article ==

Your wiki work on Trump was alluded to in a web article. See: http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2018/11/losing-dignity-still-losing/

It is a pretty well read website as can be seen here: https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/quadrant.org.au

I found out about the citation using this free tool: https://muckrack.com [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:53, 29 January 2019 (EST)

:Great -- it's an indirect allusion, but it works. Have you seen these mentions of my [[Donald Trump achievements]] article? [https://stonecoldtruth.com/despite-continuous-attacks-trump-getting-the-job-done/ One from Roger Stone] and [https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/881978883771445248 another by Bill Mitchell], who Trump has retweeted in the past. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:52, 29 January 2019 (EST)
::Thanks for sharing with me those mentions of your article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:47, 29 January 2019 (EST)

== Lou Dobbs ==

Hey, 1990's guy, check out [[Lou Dobbs]]' Conservapedia article: He himself claims he is an "independent populist". Lots of people who do news reporting and support Trump call themselves independent like [[Jedidiah Bila]], [[Alex Jones]] or were Democrat, like [[Harlan Hill]]. We really ought to respect their wishes, don't you think? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 00:11, 8 February 2019 (EST)
:First off, self-descriptions are meaningless. Dobbs can call himself whatever he wants, but it's his actual positions that matter -- and those positions are, without a doubt, conservative. There are many [[token conservative]]s who align 80-100% with globalist Democrats but still call themselves "conservative" -- but we shouldn't add them to your essay because of what they call themselves.
:Also, you may be confusing political party affiliation with political philosophy -- Dobbs isn't a Republican (maybe he rejoined, IDK), but he left because of the Bush Administration's liberal policies on issues such as immigration. It's his political views that matter, not his political party, and Dobbs's positions are conservative, meaning we can safely call him a conservative. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:27, 8 February 2019 (EST)
::I'm a bit embarrassed that I took Lou Dobbs' self-description "independent" to mean non-conservative instead of non-Republican, so not only is what you say correct, but it turns out I've never even heard him deny he's a conservative, here or elsewhere. I don't know if you know this, but coincidentally, I added Lou Dobbs' name to the TCOT list myself in April 2017. But I removed it the same day because of the "independent" label I saw mentioned in his Conservapedia entry soon after I had added his name to the list.

::I'm still concerned, though—Lou Dobbs lives in the liberal stronghold, New York City, and there are cowards that live there who can be vicious if they think they have an easy target.

::Here's something else that's funny; [[Jedidiah Bila]] also called herself an independent (in November 2016) and also lives in New York City. And I delisted her for the very same reasons I used for removing Lou Dobbs' name. I just now checked to see if I could find whether she ever called herself a conservative or just an independent, and, long story short, she labelled herself as conservative in September 2017!

::So, in a way, your diligence has rescued Jedidiah Bila from obscurity in the "conservative world"! But I'm still interested in what you think about Lou Dobbs. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 02:20, 9 February 2019 (EST)
:::Basically, there are two types of Republicans, National Republicans involved in federal issues, and Independent Republicans - people involved in local and state issues, like school board elections and legislative races. The IRs are moreless divorced from the federal issues, usually because they just aren't interested in what the RNC is doing, occassionally over a policy dispute. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 04:07, 9 February 2019 (EST)
::::Dobbs is a TV host -- he has to live in New York City (or nearby) as a result. He has company though, with Trump, Hannity, and others. I think it's obvious Tucker Carlson is a conservative, but he lives in Washington, D.C., where only 4% of the population voted for Trump. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:29, 9 February 2019 (EST)

==ESchlafly==

I get the name "Schlafly" being suspect, but Andy doesn't have a monopoly on it. I say assume good faith for now, unless a senior admin says otherwise. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 20:41, 12 February 2019 (EST)
:Fair enough. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:54, 12 February 2019 (EST)

::Technically, the username is "ESchafly," which is slightly different anyway. In any case, for an apparently good faith editor, perhaps autoblock should be disabled if they are blocked on grounds of their username alone. Anyway, I was also suspicious...no harm done. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:51, 13 February 2019 (EST)

==Thank you==
Thank you for tidying my attempt at an external link in the article on the [[British Psychological Society]]. It is appreciated. [[User:Carltonio|Carltonio]] ([[User talk:Carltonio|talk]]) 12:33, 18 March 2019 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:57, 18 March 2019 (EDT)

== Christchurch: terrorism? ==

Hi there! Thanks for your frequent positive contributions to Conservapedia. I'm new here so still trying to learn the ropes.

I feel like the use of "Direct Action" in the leading paragraph of the [[New Zealand mosque shooting]] article, rather than "terrorism", is euphemstic and betrays the principles put forth on [[Conservapedia:How_Conservapedia_Differs_from_Wikipedia]]. Would a similar change be appropriate on the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] page? {{unsigned|Liberalnutjob}}
:I'm not opposed to labeling it a terrorist attack -- the article uses the term several times, including through some edits I made to the article. I'm not sure the CP article you linked is particularly relevant here since the Wikipedia article does call it a terrorist attack in the intro (just as we do in the body).

:I recommend you message [[User talk:RobSmith]], who is the main author of the article and who inserted the "direct action" link in the intro. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:17, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

==Hello!==
:Hey dude! I know you from Wikipedia! I'm here for anti-vandalism work. I am an administrator from [http://deletionpedia.org/en/Special:UserRights/DW Deletionpedia.org]. [[User:DW|DW]] ([[User talk:DW|talk]]) 13:29, 9 April 2019 (EDT)
::Hello -- what is your Wikipedia account name, if you don't mind me asking? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:57, 9 April 2019 (EDT)
== Please create these articles ==

1990'sguy, please create these article and I will tell you why later:

*[[Top 10 achievements of Donald Trump]]

*[[Donald Trump achievements before presidency]]

*[[List of Trump's accomplishments in 2019]]

*[[List of Trump's accomplishments in 2018]]

*[[Donald Trump achievements in his life]]

Also, if this article can be improved, please do it: [[Trump administration]]

I hope this helps.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:52, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

:I will try to create at least some of these when I get time. The two "life achievements" articles seem like good ideas, though the 2018 and 2019 articles would be problematic, particularly with fitting them into my article series which is not based on year. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:36, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

== Unnecessary? ==

My prefix to [[liberal]], describing that kind of person as a United States resident, was included because it's an exclusively U.S. term. In other countries, liberals are known by other names, such as the Labor party in the UK. My edit was not unnecessary, and I would appreciate it if you could please let it stand.

I took a similar issue with the statement that "most individuals are overweight" in every article dealing with obesity. Nationally, this is true, but, globally, it is false. There are more Asians than there are Americans in the world, and 2 billion of them are starving, outnumbering America's obese population 10 to 1. {{unsigned|MacTavish}}

:I oppose changing it back, and there's a big difference between the exact definition of certain terminology and health statistics.

:Labour Party is a political party, and CP's "liberal" page refers to the ideology. I travel to (continental) Europe frequently, and the word "liberal" is increasingly meaning the same thing as in the U.S. while "conservative" increasingly means something similar to the U.S.

:More importantly, the CP article clearly defines what a liberal is, and that's what matters. Every political term like this has multiple meanings, depending on who's doing the explaining. The best solution to the problem of the same words having many different meanings is to clearly define the word and create articles such as the [[classical liberalism]] or [[liberal conservatism]] articles. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:59, 15 April 2019 (EDT)

== Bible ==

I note that you believe that "As unpopular it is to believe this in our present culture, I know that the Bible contains absolutely no errors or mistakes". Last night I was listening to an interesting talk on the radio about [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A3-11&version=ESV John 8:3-11], and this has led me to pondering this morning [https://www.openbible.info/topics/stoning_to_death what the Bible has to say about stoning people to death]. My question is how can anyone, in light of this, believe that the Bible is always to be taken literally? I accept that the Bible contains invaluable spiritual truths but I also consider that it is the creation of fallible human beings. I believe that such barbarous practices as stoning someone to death, for blasphemy, sexual misconduct, and breaking the Sabbath, is a reflection of the values of an early pastoral society and not God's word. To be honest with you I find ''any'' type of dogmatic belief deeply disturbing. I note that the Conservapedia article takes a moderate line on the [[Bible]]: "The Bible is the most logical, insightful and influential collection of books and letters ever written", and doesn't claim that it's the word of God.

Because of our recent "conversations" you seemed to be the most obvious person to ask this question. [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 13:15, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

== Cyrus ==
Hi 1990'sguy,

I don't think we need flashy photos of anti-Christian celebrities, which promote their lifestyles to our kids. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] ([[User talk:DouglasA|talk]]) 13:54, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

User talk:1990'sguy

2019-04-19T17:54:21Z

DouglasA:

{{welcome}}

Thanks for adding your edits, hopefully you'll become a regular contributor. If I can help you out with anything let me know. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 27 July 2016 (EDT)

:Thank you! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)

Account promoted to skip the Captcha requirement. Thanks for your enlightening edits to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]].

Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:37, 28 July 2016 (EDT)

:Thank you! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (EDT)
::Congratulations and welcome. You should be aware that people who edit at both CP and WP with the same user name are sometimes harrassed at WP as a result. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:11, 29 July 2016 (EDT)
:::Thank you for the welcome and thanks for the heads up! I've already received some heat on Wikipedia for taking some unpopular positions and opposing the bias there, so it will be nothing new for me. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 29 July 2016 (EDT)

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I saw your helpful addition to the article on Murder of Seth Rich, so I thought I would visit your talk page. How long have you lasted on the WickedPedia? I would be surprised that you would last long there, as I have found the WickedPedia incredibly intolerant and censorious, a pseudo-aristocracy with dominating bullies, biased enough for me to consider it a candidate for the Big T award (T in the Calvinist TULIP); i.e, total depravity! LOL I don't think you can do much on Wikipedia without being part of a group of old boys or buddies who work together. ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (EDT))

:Did you mean my Wikipedia talk page? I have been editing Wikipedia for almost three years already. A big reason why I've lasted so long there is because many of the topics I edit are not particularly controversial. However, you are completely right in your description of Wikipedia. I have seen firsthand the massive (and very visible) intolerance and bias Wikipedia has against conservatives, Christians, and anything that contradicts secular and humanistic (pseudo)"scientific knowledge". I could probably write a book about all my criticisms of Wikipedia. I have been able to do some good work (I was able to bring the article "Electoral history of Ronald Reagan" to official "Good Article" status, and I created a few articles), but on other articles, like the Murder of Seth Rich, we cannot have much confidence on the quality and neutrality of those articles. I do applaud you, Thunkful2, for your excellent work on "Murder of Seth Rich". It's awesome that at least one person can accurately present this story! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:35, 23 August 2016 (EDT)

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I meant right here, this talk page -- I visited it after seeing your good edit. No, I haven't gone to your talk page on the WickedPedia. Thanks for the complement. ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:45, 24 August 2016 (EDT))

:OK, got it. And thanks for your complement. :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:50, 24 August 2016 (EDT)

== References from Wikipedia ==

While it's not really plagiarism to copy a reference from WP, it just want to point out that you probably shouldn't do so unless you have read that source, and believe that it supports what is being said. If you are reading the books you are referencing, that's fine--I just can't tell. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:33, 8 September 2016 (EDT)
:Oh, that's a good point. I actually did not read those books, I just wanted to cite something so I wouldn't be adding unsourced info to the article. Should I remove those references anyway? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

::It is a good idea to find references to support unsourced statements, but it is a little deceptive to cite something you haven't read. To be entirely beyond reproach, removal probably would be best. At this point though, I honestly don't know if I'd bother. In my opinion, it's up to you. No one else has said anything, so it might be okay to leave them, I'm just not sure. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:51, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

:::OK. I will do my own research and find other sources that I can use instead. However, it's getting late, so I will deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:58, 8 September 2016 (EDT)

== Account promoted ==

Your account has been promoted to include blocking and overnight editing capability. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:30, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

:Congratulations! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:57, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

::Well done! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:06, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

:::Thanks all! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:21, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

::::Excellent! you did good keeping an eye on that vandal yesterday. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

:::::Thanks, Progressingamerica, I appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:42, 29 September 2016 (EDT)

==Reading the WSJ==
Re: [[Christoph Blocher]]

Typically, when I want to read a WSJ article that requires subscriber sign in is to Google the headline and access the web page from a search engine instead of directly. Most of the time this requires a clean browser tab, sometimes it needs to be done in a different browser. Rarely, it requires a cookie clearing. Just thought that information may be of help. This even works with articles that are years old.

As a last resort, see if its in the internet archive.(though, most articles I don't want that bad to keep trying) But they're all good procedures to know. Sometimes works for other news sites too, besides WSJ. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2016 (EDT)

:Thanks for the tip! That's what I will do. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:32, 10 October 2016 (EDT)

== Account promoted ==

Your account has been promoted to include upload and rollback features. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
:Thanks! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
::Congratulations! Keep it up! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
:::Thanks David! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (EDT)

== Move and unlock requests ==

You can post your move and unlock requests to [[User talk:Karajou]]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:30, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
:Thanks for the tip! It's getting late, so I will do that tomorrow. I appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)
::You don't actually need any privileges to do a move. You can cut-and-paste from one lemma to another. For purposes of copyright law, the edit summaries must make it clear where the incoming material comes from. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:54, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

== Karajou blocked a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor. ==

People should not be judged in race on alleged sexuality. A proper critique of Karajou would be asking him about blocking a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor.--[[User:Rodgerr|Rodgerr]] ([[User talk:Rodgerr|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

:If you think you have been judged unfairly, you could have just emailed Karajou or webmaster@conservapedia.com (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member Accounts]]). However, more than once, you decided to take the low route, calling him filthy, immature words [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Karajou&diff=1283494&oldid=1283491]. See [[Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks]]. And why in the world did you do this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Coal_burning&curid=140922&diff=1283484&oldid=1283423] (for someone who apparently abhors Trump for the tape, your words seem just as bad) That, honestly, is shameful. I will note that the "Bringreaganback" account clearly violated [[Conservapedia:90/10 rule]]. Considering all this, it's quite clear you deserved the block. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 October 2016 (EDT)

== Mainpageleft ==

In response to your good question about entries on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]], currently there are about 112 featured entries there, which are "reshuffled" periodically. Do you have any suggestions about how that "team" of entries be improved, with respect to insight, influence, popularity, interest level, educational value, etc.? It's a terrific mix of topics now but there is always room for improvement, particularly as the issues and interest in certain topics by the public inevitably shifts over time. Thanks much for any suggestions you may have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:46, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

:An example: "[[Underrated Sports Stars]]" is a solid entry, but should probably be replaced on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]]. Do you have any favored, influential, insightful, potentially or already popular entry that you like, which you would recommend to replace it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

::I do have a few suggestions. [[Murder of Seth Rich]] is probably the best suggestion, as it is very detailed and well sourced. Also, the Wikipedia article of the murder has been the victim of leftist bias (two times, within a month, editors have tried to delete the article, and with that failing, the article appears to have been stripped of much detail) which our article covers well. Other suggestions that I have are the [[Ark Encounter]] (a popular and influential attraction, and one that has been the victim of atheist and evolutionary bias, which the article covers), and [[Larry McDonald]] (a true patriot who stayed true to his principles, and his article actually covers the theories on his possible survival). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:22, 18 October 2016 (EDT)

== Account promoted again ==

Congratulations, your account has been promoted again, so that you can edit protected articles, and protect and unprotect articles. Very well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:05, 10 November 2016 (EST)
:Wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Schlafly! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:19, 10 November 2016 (EST)
::Congratulations! I've had some problems with the "protect" privilege, but I hope it works for you! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:35, 12 November 2016 (EST)
:::Thanks! I hope so too! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)
::::Congratulations on yet another promotion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)
:::::Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)

==Can't edit article==
Hi again, 1990'sguy, it's Ambassador. Is there any reason I can't edit the article on the [[Big Bang]]? To keep atheists from changing it, I suppose. If you have access to it, you might want to add the point about the Big Bang, due to planets and moons spinning backwards, contradicting the law of Conservation of angular momentum. Find out about it [http://www.creationwiki.org/Three_planets_and_several_moons_revolve_backwards_(Talk.Origins) here]. Thanks! [[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 19:56, 22 November 2016 (EST)
:Yes, the article is protected probably because of atheist/secularist/liberal vandalism. Unfortunately, I cannot edit it myself as I do not have full admin capabilities. I recommend asking an admin ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&username=&group=sysop&limit=100 list]) to unlock the article or add the information you want added. Or, you can go to [[Talk:Main Page|the main talk page]] and add your request there, where more people can see it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:08, 22 November 2016 (EST)

== Thank you! ==

Hello there, and thank you for editing the article on [[Islam and Christianity]]. --[[User:SWAJCAHL&S|SWAJCAHL&S]] ([[User talk:SWAJCAHL&S|talk]]) 09:13, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:No problem, and thank you for creating it! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)

::And also thank you, for your help - and tips! - on [[Jared Kushner]]. I'll try to remember the ref's and cat's in the future. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 21:49, 23 November 2016 (EST)
:::Sounds great and you're welcome! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)

== Geocentric page ==

I added a bit on the talk page a while ago. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:15, 3 December 2016 (EST)
:Do you mean on the section "Ptolemy's view of a stationary earth"? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 3 December 2016 (EST)
::Sorry for the late reply but yes. It doesn't seemed to have created a new heading so I will add that now. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:11, 5 December 2016 (EST)
:::I removed it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 5 December 2016 (EST)

== This is a simple misunderstanding. Please be reasonable. ==

This is [[User:Amorrow]]. I had to dirty myself by creating a sockpuppet because you cut off every last channel of communication. The issues:
# SSN of dead people are release by the government of the USA. I made it clear that my father is dead. His name was William Knight Morrow. You can find his name and SSN, for instance, at [http://sortedbybirthdate.com/pages/19311104.html this page]. It is public, not private.
# You could have removed that link and let it go at that. I do not require notification of such actions. I do not care about that link very much. I put it there simply as a convenience.
Is the matter resolved? If so, then please unblock me or let me know here what remains unresolved.--[[User:Amorrow2|Amorrow2]] ([[User talk:Amorrow2|talk]]) 20:44, 3 December 2016 (EST)

:I am discussing the issue on [[User talk:DavidB4]]. You are welcome to join in. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:48, 3 December 2016 (EST)
::You are unblocked. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 3 December 2016 (EST)

Hello um 1990sguy Im not a spammer or troll I just want to edit this page so I can mod the Alexa device to read out conservapedia instead of wickedpedia.
:First off, you need talk page permission if you're going to make massive changes on one of CP's most important articles. I re-inserted some of your edits, but you need talk page permission to go further and change the article's very tone and point of view. Second, are you a sock of Amorrow? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::I am almost certainly not apart of this sock of amorrow, what is an Amorrow anyway 1990s?--[[User:Reevestehsnek|Reevestehsnek]] ([[User talk:Reevestehsnek|talk]] 14:58, 8 November 2018 (EST)
:::Amorrow is the user who started the discussion you're commenting in. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:04, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::::Reeves, if your going to troll, you need an upgrade. Don't be so amatuerish about it. Show us something new and witty so we can develop appropriate countermeasures. You're obviously not stupid. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 15:31, 8 November 2018 (EST)
:::::Not a Troll, just following guidelines to not start a new section unless it hasn't been posted--[[User:Reevestehsnek|Reevestehsnek]] ([[User talk:Reevestehsnek|talk]] 16:09, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::::::Like I am legit confused, During these last few Hours I get the feeling that you 1990s guy either think Im trying to wreck youre words or that I'm a troll. I also get the feeling that I am extremely unwelcome. Like is all this because I'm black. Because if that's the case Ill leave this site like real pronto.--[[User:Reevestehsnek|Reevestehsnek]] ([[User talk:Reevestehsnek|talk]] 16:26, 8 November 2018 (EST)
:::::::You're confusing me with RobS, who also commented right above. I did not accuse you of trolling. If you feel unwelcome, it's probably because you're new, and you are not familiar with CP's rules. Also, CP is an '''extremely''' high target of vandalism, so we act the same way for '''every''' new user to vet them. Your skin color (which nobody knows) has nothing to do with it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:58, 8 November 2018 (EST)
::::::::Also, we '''recommend''' that you make a new section on a talk page. We discourage commenting on a two-year-old section about a completely different topic. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:11, 8 November 2018 (EST)

==Pitch hitting==

Thanks for the ref [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&oldid=1293435]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 13:34, 18 December 2016 (EST)
:You're welcome. Always happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 18 December 2016 (EST)

==Trump==
You're not telling me it's just a coincidence, are you? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2016 (EST)

:Seriously? It is extremely unlikely that this passage, which is about the Second Coming of Christ, has anything to do with Donald Trump. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)
::Dang :( Thought I'd had my first ever conservative insight. Must be the morphine. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 23 December 2016 (EST)
:::I think this has more to do with biblical [[hermeneutics]] than conservatism. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:00, 23 December 2016 (EST)

== Merry Christmas ==

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Thank you for all your contributions to Conservaoedia as far your web article content.

Merry Christmas! And have a happy New Year's Day. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:37, 24 December 2016 (EST)

:Thank you very much, Conservative, and the same to you as well! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:43, 24 December 2016 (EST)

== [[St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre]] ==

I suggest doing the redirect in the opposite direction for two reasons. First, it preserves the history and visits to the pre-existing entry. Second, it leaves intact the "Saint" spelled out, which is a stronger and more effective title than the secularized abbreviation. I'd be happy to change the direction of the redirect, if you agree. Regardless, thanks for your efforts!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (EST)

:Yes please, Mr. Schlafly, that would be great if you would move it. Just as long as the article shows up as being created by me on the "New Pages" feed. I didn't know that this article already existed, but I worked hard on it and I think that my article is of higher quality by any objective measure. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)

==European immigration==
I was thinking of doing an article on the [[European immigration]] problem (don't want to call 'European immigration crisis', yet). Americans are woefully ignorant of what's happening in Europe, and we're looking at doing perhaps the biggest change in Immigration law since 1952. In Europe, whole new political parties have been spawned because of the establishment parties failure to deal with the problems. In 20 years, the German mi!itary may be majority Muslim which would impact the future of the NATO alliance. Better get started now in educating the American public on changing demographics and how this may affect America's role as a Superpower, assuming it still is by then.

Would you care to collaborate? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']] 01:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)

:Of course, I'll be happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)
::Do you think we should add a subsection under UK about Brexit and to what extent that was motivated by immigration? Also, I'd like to include something about the Schengen Agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']] 16:46, 29 December 2016 (EST)
:::Both of those are great ideas. The "freedom of movement" EU policy played a large part in the referendum and its aftermath. People are tired of unlimited immigration.
:::As for the Schengen area, people can go anywhere they want in Europe without worrying about border security (and before, it was quite tough crossing the border I've heard). The agreement is an essential part of the EU plan to reach full political unification. It really has nothing to do with economics. Also, criminals and terrorists can easily cross the border. The recent Berlin attacker was caught in Italy. He crossed at least two borders without being caught. Imagine if he tried doing that without the agreement. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:53, 29 December 2016 (EST)
:::::Same as most of suspects in 1200 reported sexual assault cases New Years Eve in Cologne. Something like only 7 or 22 arrests have ever been made, while most of the other identified suspects are reported to have fled the country.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']] 17:06, 29 December 2016 (EST)

== Father's SSN ==

I created [[Social Security Death Index]]. After I add some ref's, I hope that we can revisit the notion of me declaring what my father's SSN is.

Just to mention where I got this idea from, it is from the web site anusha.com . Sloan has lived an erratic and at times immoral life, but he is just below the level of genius in raw talent. I refer to him as an "accidental adventurer". Please see thermo4thermo.org/sam_sloan.html for some of his life-adventures.
I am not promoting his lifestyle, but he is my publisher for my upcoming book. His web site is a mess. It has about 3000 pages but just a mess of cross-references. The home page is very, very long. You can look at pages like www.anusha.com/pafc147.htm . He also has pages like www.anusha.com/uncles-p.htm . His memory is almost perfect. Near Total Recall. Anyway, I hope we can engage in dialog about my father's SSN.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2017 (EST)
==Hate crime==
Dear 1990'sguy, I am not trying to get into an edit war with you, but I believe that you are misreading the hate crime laws. They do not address "hate speech," just violence or other criminal acts against target groups that receive a lot of hate. I suggest that you do further research, and I hope that you will come to the same conclusion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:31, 7 January 2017 (EST)
:For clarification, are you telling me that hate crime laws do not cover "hate speech"? Regardless, I think we should mention that slowly (but steadily) speaking out for biblical Christian principles (opposition to homosexual marriage, saying Islam is a false religion, etc.) is being seen as "hate speech" and vulnerable to being criminalized. See this recent story[https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/simon-turpin/2016/01/08/northern-ireland-pastor-not-guilty-criticising-islam/] and please note the recent attempts to censor Christian sermons in Houston (I don't know if other cities did the same). Censorship of Christian and conservative opinions is growing, and I could a few (but probably unrelated to hate crimes) examples. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (EST)
::Also, while you can keep you additions, would you please restore the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hate_crime&curid=3861&diff=1298155&oldid=1298153 material you deleted in this edit] (particularly those three completely deleted paragraphs)? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:11, 7 January 2017 (EST)
:::Thank you for fixing the dead link and finding an additional source. You are exactly right. Hate crime and hate speech are completely different. All Conservatives disapprove of speech codes, "safe spaces policy" and political correctness. The First Amendment is clear that regulation of speech must be neutral as to the message. The person(s) who wrote the [[Hate crime]] article years ago got a bit tangled up. Liberals want hate speech codes, and Conservatives oppose them. Both Liberals and Conservatives have voted to enact true hate crime laws to protect religious freedom and to address hate violence on the basis of race. Some Conservatives argue that the list of hate targets in those laws should not include "sexual orientation," but that argument does not belong in a section discussing protecting religion.
:::I took out the two paragraphs because they were repetitive, out-of-place and not germaine. Why not add them to [[Hate speech]]? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:39, 7 January 2017 (EST)
::::Thank you for clarifying and for moving the content. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)
:::::You are welcome. Our discussion here was a bit time delayed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 22:02, 7 January 2017 (EST)
If you want to include the legislative history, it should explain which bill that was finally adopted that is being discussed and how the bill that was adopted differs from the earlier bills. The people that worked on this article years ago were obviously opposed to a series of bills and were making arguments on why a bill would be bad. Their narative is out of date. We have a number of state and federal hate crime laws on the books and we need to describe what exists, give facts and statistics about how the laws work, and include some commentary on whether the law has been applied fairly. If you want to expand the history section beyond the two sentences that I have explaining how the federal law expanded the role of the FBI, please do so. But the fact that certain people sponsored bills that did not pass before a bill did pass is not helpful unless you explain what changes were made or how the early efforts illumniates our understanding of the bill that passed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2017 (EST)
:If these proposed bills became law, we should definitely include this (even if we word it differently). We should do this in order to inform the public about leftist laws and to show that they didn't always exist. Unfortunately, I am quite busy right now, so I cannot do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 13 January 2017 (EST)
:::1990sguy, these bills did '''not''' become law. A similar bill later became law. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)
::Not to sidetrack your guys discussion, but let me point out (cause the media hasn't) we have just witnessed something very rare and unusual in the US. Traditionally, because of state sovereignty, the states prosecute murder cases and federal government's role is restricted, for most of our history, to capital cases in the US military. In the 20th century federal crimes like murdering the president, or terrorism on federal property causing death ([[Timothy McVeigh]]), were added. This guy, [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/dylann-roof-death-penalty-explainer/ Dylann Roof], has just been sentenced to death for violating peoples civil rights with a hate crime enhancement, and ''not for murder''. The federal government does not have the legal authority to try this as a murder case. In fact, Roof probably never will be tried for murder cause the State of South Carolina isn't gonna spend the time and money to do it after the feds are done. In my lifetime, I think this is only the fourth case like this I ever heard of, tho I'm sure there's been a few others. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]] 22:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)
:::Rob, this happened a lot in the 1960s. Civil rights workers would go South and were murdered and either the murder was not prosecuted or a local jury would acquit the accused. The FBI would then investigate and the US DOJ would successfully prosecute for civil rights violations in Federal Court. The question is whether there is enough of a commerce clause basis to allow for the passage of such federal crimes, and the courts have upheld them on the grounds that if the federal government did not prevent such intimidation, people would not feel safe crossing state lines. Also, many states have suspended or abolished the death penalty, while it remains available in federal court. State "sovereignty" is very limited and not ''actual'' sovereignty in the legal sense. To me, this is a more interesting aspect of the Hate crime article than whether or not the definition should be expanded to include "gender identity." [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2017 (EST)
::::I'm not sure it happened "a lot". There was the 'Mississippi Burning' case, where the local cops and others were charged with civil rights violations, but no one served more than a six year sentence. This is why "hate crime" legislation was added later, cause sentences were too light for a "civil rights violation resulting in death". The problem in those days were all-white juries exonerating murder cases, so the feds invented a way they could prosecute killers. One guy was convicted in a state trial [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/price&bowers/killen.htm 40 years later in 2005 of manslaughter,] but he wasn't the trigger man. No one has ever been charged with the actual killings.
::::Then there was Salt Lake City case of a civil rights violation resulting in death in 1978, but Utah was never part of the Confederacy, was not put under federal scrutiny in the Voting Rights Act, nor has a history of all-white jurries exonersting whites accused of murdering blacks.

::::In the 1990s, Brian Beckwith was convicted of violating Medgar Evers civil rights by killing him in the 1970s.

::::In the 90s Timothy McVeigh was the first person executed by the federal government since, like 1956. But this was a terrorism charge resulting in death, not a civil rights violation, AFAIK. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3azq6b/eli5how_timothy_mcveigh_only_got_convicted_of_8/ McVeigh was only charged with 8 counts of murder, although 168 were killed]). Since McVeigh, there's been maybe one or two other cases of people executed by the federal government.
::::Bottomline, the federal hate crime enhancement was added cause, while the feds proved they could get a conviction where the state failed to act, the penalty was too low. Since its inception, it's hard to find a single case that the law was used for what it was designed for. There is no evidence whatsoever that South Carolina would not prosecute Dylann Roos, or an all-white jury would have exonerated him if the feds failed to intrude. South Carolina has lost its right to govern itself, its sovereignty. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]] 06:32, 14 January 2017 (EST)
:::::If this is true, then it definitely should be added. It would give yet another ignored example of massive governmental expansion and movement towards socialism. JDano, if the 2009 proposal did not become law, then what did the actual law consist of? If the bill that was listed on the article did not become law, then there is no point in including it. However, a legislative history of successful bills would be good. However, I am still quite busy, so I will not attempt to do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 14 January 2017 (EST)

==Contest==
I will provide the details you seek when i get some time. You were in the top 5. --Jpatt 10:19, 16 January 2017 (EST)
:Thank you for the reply Jpatt! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:40, 16 January 2017 (EST)

== discuession ==

I am continuing the discussion on my talk page.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (EST)

==Question==
What would be the best word to describe Eurosceptic's opponents? Eurocentric? Pan European? Some other? I don't like globalist in this context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]] 12:42, 28 January 2017 (EST)
:I would say either "Europeanists," "Europhiles," or "Euro-Federalists" are the best. They either seem to be the most used terms. Of those three, I would personally opt for the first. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)

== Ban editing ==

Hi, I've noticed you sometimes change blocks by other admins to increase the time or make in infinite. I appreciate your intentions, but just thought I would point out a couple things. Firstly, the blocking admin generally has the final say over the block they have imposed. For example, if a person want to dispute the ban, they are to go to the blocking admin, and that admin decides whether to revoke the ban or not (as can be seen [[Conservapedia:Quick_reference#If_you_get_blocked|here]]). Since you are not revoking a block, it's probably not as big of an issue, but it still seems to be proper etiquette. Of course, full admins have authority over assistants such as you and I, so they have the right to direct revise of revoke blocks we make. 
Secondly, While it makes good sense to block those people forever, it doesn't really work that way. A ban applies to the username, and the IP from which they edited if the option is selected--nothing more. Vandals almost always use servers to redirect their connection, however, so that their true IP is never seen by CP. This means that when we block those users, we are really just blocking the server they were using. This is a good thing too, but the problem is that these servers are usually assigned new IPs periodically, so the block no longer applies--now the blocked IP is unassigned. Since most people in the western world still use IPv4, there are not that many spare IP addresses, so the IP is soon assigned to someone else. Now some innocent person is using an IP which for all eternity has been blocked on CP. They probably will never even know, but if we set infinite blocks enough, the chances of that happening regularly increase continuously. I know some people here do use infinite block regularly, but in my opinion its a logistical problem. This is why I almost always set a time limit, or block only the username infinitely, and leave the IP unblocked (which I prefer not to do).
Thanks for your ongoing efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:05, 31 January 2017 (EST)
:Yikes, I should have thought of that. The thought of indefinitely blocking innocent people from CP certainly is not a good thing. If you haven't reverted by block change, feel free to undo it. I'm too busy right now to do it myself. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:11, 31 January 2017 (EST)

::The chances of that happening from a couple blocks are pretty low, but it can add up. Anyway, no harm done. I just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:24, 31 January 2017 (EST)

:::I apologize for adding to a discussion which is over a year old. However, DMorris straightened me out about this, and I wanted to belatedly set the record straight. When a user is blocked, the username/account is blocked for a specified amount of time, but the IP address is only blocked for 24 hours, unless it is banned separately. Autoblock will put a 24-hour ban on all IPs used by the banned account, though I'm not sure if it also blocks IPs which log into the banned account at a later time...I believe it does. Therefore, it seems we do not need to worry about the last point I made, as I was mistaken. Once DMorris corrected me, I did some research and testing, which confirmed what he told me. --[[User:DavidB4|DavidB4]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:03, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

::::Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:23, 28 March 2019 (EDT)

== expand ==

[[Gainful employment]]. Yes. I dare you to.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:32, 4 February 2017 (EST)
:Why? What's the purpose of you messaging me? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2017 (EST)

==[[Abortion]] article==
It's open for you to make your suggested additions. As to the Leif Ericson image, what needs to happen is a new image uploaded in its place. I'll try to find one later. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:18, 6 February 2017 (EST)
:New Leif image uploaded and added to article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (EST)
::Thank you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 7 February 2017 (EST)

== Addiction article and TAR ==

Hello again, Regarding the [[Addiction]] article and specifically its categories, I agree with JDano. Let me attempt to explain: 

"TAR" is short for [[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] a former user and assistant SysOp here at Conservapedia. People have differing opinions of him, but mine is that he did offer some valuable contributions, but also did not understand and did not learn the rules of CP. Among some other issues, he tended to add many "See also" links to articles which were not sufficiently relevant and did the same with categories. Thus, when editors refer to "TAR" they are usually talking about this debris, which should not exist. TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) has since stopped editing here, and his account has been deleted. However, some of the links and categories he inserted still exists, and make things look messy. For this reason, a number of editors (including myself) try to clean up these issues and restore a little more order. The guide page [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] was the direct result of TAR's methods. 
Regarding the categories specifically, it's best to maintain a "tree" structure. A page should not connect to categories which also contain subcategories it links to. Also, it should link only to categories which contain it, not categories which the page topic can contain. In other words, a page "drug" should be in the category "medicines" but not in a category "antibiotics". 
I hope this clarifies a bit. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 00:42, 13 February 2017 (EST)

:Please allow me to apologize for my impatience with the "addiction" article. You accidentally stepped into the remains of a hornets' nest. TAR added lots of utterly irrelevant see-also's and categories, in what can only be described as an attempt to turn this wiki into survivalist-pedia, or perhaps James-Wesley-Rawles-pedia. He offended a huge number of people with his implications that we were all supposed to stockpile bullets, batteries, and other survivalist stuff (I could look it up but it's too nauseating) and move to a "redoubt" in Idaho or similar place while we wait for the apocalypse. We were also all supposed to be into some kind of crackpot Indian alternative medicine. (I think it was called "ayurvedic" or something like that; once again too nauseating.) The whole wiki was in an enormous uproar for a few months. (And Cons, who really doesn't subscribe to that stuff, nevertheless stirred up the pot by pretending to be in email contact with the guy.)
:So if you see suspicious see-also's or categories, especially with codewords like "nanny state" or "gun-grabbing", be aware this might be detritus from TAR. I support the second amendment, but I don't support putting all this survivalist garbage into an article on fire hydrants.
:[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:36, 13 February 2017 (EST)
::It has taken a huge amount of work to undo TAR's damage. I suppose that you think that there is a bias against any change he had made, and there is probably some truth to that. He did not understand that our categories have a tree structure. Instead, he thought of categories as a word association test. Putting in excess categories and excessive red links makes Conservapedia less appealing to users and lowers our google search engine rankings. In theory, every article could be in every category, because there is some plausible connection between any two subjects. If we had a separate article on "Drug Addiction" then it could have categories like [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] or [[:Category:Drugs]]. The problem is that [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Drugs]] ''breaking up the category tree with an infinite loop.'' Here the Addiction article is on a much higher level that discusses video games, etc. So, it is not useful to a high school student looking for information about illegal drugs, in my opinion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:46, 13 February 2017 (EST)

:::Thank you all for your explanations. Considering these things, I will try not to get in the way next time this clean up occurs. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2017 (EST)
== Thanks! ==

You helped make [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com THIS] happen.

I have never seen a non-profit website go from below 100,000 rank to nearly a 50,000 Alexa ranking in about a year. And Andy payed zero dollars for internet marketing services during this period.

And there is no sign of a nearing web traffic plateau. My guess is that Trump supporters/Trump era and the resulting political waves significantly explains the boost in traffic.

Trump supporters seem very loyal so the traffic boost could be long lasting. It also seems like there is a reawakening of right-wing politics/nationalism that will be long lasting. And right-wing populism and "[[best of the public]]" go together like peanut butter and jelly. :) [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:30, 13 February 2017 (EST)

:You're welcome, and thank ''you'' for all your edits! I'm happy to help improve the quality of Conservapedia. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 13 February 2017 (EST)
==Quick project==
Dear Guy:
Our state articles list the members of Congress from each state, but they have not be updated for 2016. If five editors could update 10 states each, we would be done quickly. Could you please take a look at [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Political directory]]? Thanks in advance, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2017 (EST)

Thank you for your help with the project and with People's Party. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)

== Tip ==

Thanks for your terrific work. One tip: the licensing information should be expressly included in the uploads. I added it here: [[File:EU_member_states.png]]. Thanks again for your edits and uploads.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:27, 7 March 2017 (EST)
:Thank you for the tip. I will remember to add the information next time. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:34, 7 March 2017 (EST)

==[[Template:Book]]==
Try working on it now. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 10:48, 11 March 2017 (EST)

== Questions ==

A few months ago, you told me to ask you any questions I had, so here goes:
*When recategorizing the massive and messy [Category:Authors] by nationality, I found two authors, [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], whom I could not recategorize as [Category:American Authors]. Could you change them for me?
*When fixing the [[Francois Rabelais]] cedilla mess, I set up a redirect. Has anyone ever made a loop out of redirects? If so, what happened? I'm scared to try it.
*Lastly, where is my attention now best sent - expanding the author articles, improving our coverage of science and mathematics, or maybe tackling another recat job, like [Category:Music]?

:1) Concerning [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], those articles are protected, and as an assistant sysop, I do not have the ability to edit them. I recommend asking someone like [[User:Karajou]] or CP's owner, [[User:Aschlafly]] to either unlock the articles to allow you to fix the category or to have them change the cat themselves. I've made many similar requests to them and they will be happy to help.

:2) I have not heard of someone doing that before. I personally don't think anything bad would happen if someone did try it, as you can still access the actual redirect page to remove the loop.

:3) Honestly, all three choices are great. If I were you, I would probably choose to expand the articles already created so that the average reader would find them more interesting and worthwhile, rather than just seeing a stub. After that, I would personally move on to work on another category, so that CP is better-organized. Then after that, I would do math and science, which is (as far as I can tell) on a different theme than your other work. This is my personal preference, but if you would prefer doing it in a different order feel free! You have been very helpful to CP, and I appreciate your work. Keep it up! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

::Hi, just a quick note: A redirect loop shouldn't be a problem. I think the user is only redirected once, so after that they see the second redirect page. Redirect loops, double redirects, and dead redirects should all be avoided when possible. Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 20:23, 14 March 2017 (EDT)

:::You are entirely correct, DavidB4; I just tried a loop with soda and pop (and removed it). Typing one would give you the page for the other, and an option to redirect. I'll proceed to expand the author pages now. Feel free to removed this section to abridge the talk page.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (EDT)

== Could you please write this article? ==

Could you please write this important article: [[Atheism and ethics]]?

I may ask another writer or tow to contribute to it also. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:07, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

:Yes, I think I will be able to find some time to do it. Unfortunately, I have other things on my to-do list (even for CP), but this article is important, and I will try to find time to help. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

::OK. Thanks. I think [[User:Pokeria1]] will be assisting you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:55, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

=== Sources to help you write an article ===

*[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/04/ethics-for-atheists/# Would human life be sacred in an atheist world?]

*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?]

*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheism_determinism_morality.html Does Atheism (Determinism) Negatively Impact Morality?]

*[http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/2015/03/atheism-ethics-and-immorality.html Atheism, Ethics, and Immorality]

*[https://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2016/01/good-nothing-make-atheist-ethics-better-christian/ Being Good “For Nothing” — Does That Make Atheist Ethics Better Than Christian?]

*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/questions-on-atheism-ethics-and-marital-conflict Questions on Atheism, Ethics, and Marital Conflict]

*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics]

Secular sources:

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]

Additional sources:

*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by Paul Copan
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister
*[http://themelios.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-amorality-of-atheism The amorality of atheim] by Rob Smith
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/can-we-be-good-without-godCan Can we be good without God?] by William Lane Craig]
*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics and morality] by Ken Ammi
*[http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec06/AtheisticExplanations.html Atheist explanations of morality and common sense]
*[http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2015/09/does_being_an_atheist_interfer.html Does being an atheist interfere with being moral?] by Lydia McGrew
*[http://americanvision.org/2742/nietzsche-slaps-down-dawkins-on-the-illusion-of-atheist-morality/ Nietzsche slaps down Dawkins on the illusion of atheist morality] by Dr. Joel McDurmon

== quick note ==

Would you be interested in email communication with me? My email is userconservative135@gmail.com

Please let me know if you are interested. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:54, 18 March 2017 (EDT)

:Yes, that would be great! I've been thinking for some time of setting up a CP email address account, and I'll do that within the next couple of days. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (EDT)
::OK. That sounds good. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (EDT)
:::Here it is: 1990sguysdg@gmail.com --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
I just sent you an email. Let me know if you got it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:10, 21 March 2017 (EDT)
::I wrote another response to your email. Please check your email box. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
:::I got your latest email and responded to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2017 (EDT)

== If you are interested, another article that needs to be created ==

If you are interested, another article that needs to be created: [[Secular ethics]]

Sources about this topic:

*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_ethics Secular ethics]

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]

*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]

Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, 20 March 2017 (EDT)

=== A couple more article suggestions related to atheism and morality ===

Also, here are a few more articles that need to be written about atheism and morality:

*[[Evolutionary ethics]], Wikipedia has an article on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_ethics

*[[Ethical naturalism]], Wikipedia has an article on it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism

*[[Ethical subjectivism]], Wikipedia has an article on this subject at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_subjectivism

Thanks for your assistance on the [[Atheism and ethics]] article. It was much appreciated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2017 (EDT)

== The Project I invited you to participate in plus ==

Here is the project I invited you to participate in:

*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project]]

It should be easy to find relevant online material in order to create some of the articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
:Thank you, Conservative, for your suggestions. I will begin on some of these soon. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:53, 22 March 2017 (EDT)
::I sent you an email. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)

== Blocking user "reformed" ==

Well, I've got to say that vandalizing the user page of someone with block authority is '''really''' stupid.

But I take issue with your claim that he was an "obvious sock". As one who has been blocked a number of times on completely bogus socking charges, I take that stuff seriously. (The blocking was generally done by someone (now deceased) who had "checkuser" privileges and therefore had good tools for detecting socks, but did not understand how internet addresses work.)

It is not at all obvious to me, as one who has a lot of experience at CP, that he was a sock. He was a vandal, and you should block him for that.

Oh, dear. Now I see that there's a big storm of this stuff going on. And, yes, these guys, or at least some of them, are probably socks of each other. And at least one of them is using the name "obvioussock", just to taunt you. And one says he used to be a washing machine in his previous life.

My goodness! I think you are being trolled! :-) :-) And no, I had nothing to do with this. Just block them. It will blow over soon.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:54, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

:Thank you for your message. :) Due to the fact that "reformed" was created right after I blocked two users and vandalized my user page, I assumed that it was a clear sock of one or both of them. However, as it was not clear to you and possibly others, I changed the block settings to just include vandalism. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:06, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

==Screw up==
Sorry, I'm working with a tablet, and it's a piece of garbage. I didn't intentionally remove your comments. Sorry. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]] 15:31, 25 March 2017 (EDT)
:Assuming you're referring to those at [[Talk:Main Page]], apology accepted. It can happen to the best of us. They were other user's edits, however. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:33, 25 March 2017 (EDT)

== Thank you ==

For your reverts yesterday on my userpage, saw the sock puppet master was not finished with his trolling. [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 07:37, 26 March 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 26 March 2017 (EDT)

== Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination ==

Thank you for your improvements to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 16:13, 29 March 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:30, 29 March 2017 (EDT)

== small request ==

I sent you a message at the last place we communicated. Can you please read that message? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:59, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
:I sent you the information I promised. It is located at the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
::Sent you message. Please check place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:::I sent you a quick note to the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, 18 April 2017 (EDT)
::::Could you please go to the place we last communicated? It is regarding another matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])

==Photo size==
With a large photo, there is much more word wrap in the table of contents, which makes it even longer. We need a wide table of contents. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:08, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
:I've checked and double-checked, and I see no way how the larger-sized photo does anything to the table of contents. And I'm using a standard Google Chrome, 100% zoom screen. Could it be your search engine/zoom? I don't see any reason why the larger image is a problem in any way. I think it looks better, regardless. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
:::On Firefox the TOC is longer due to word wrap. You can get other pictures to help fill the space, but the space will be shorter if the TOC is wider. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2017 (EDT)
I am getting a lot of 500 errors. I will wait for you to finish, and then I will go back and apply my changes. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:07, 11 April 2017 (EDT)
:I have done my changes. But please, when making those changes, please do ''not'' revert changes I have made, particularly changes that I have already reverted you multiple times. I'm tired of these disputes. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

== IRC ==

Hello, 
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009. It is now registered and somewhat set up. I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel. Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering. In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later. If you are interested, please let me know! 
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net 
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

:Thank you for your response. I have never used or really even heard of IRC prior before now (or, more accurately, before you and Andy started talking about it). What is the purpose of IRC? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

::It is perhaps the oldest form of instant messaging. It is basically a chat room, where people can join and idle or actively chat. Visitors can ask members questions, and members can collaborate. There is even file sharing, if that would be useful. I'm going to be writing a how-to-use guide to explain the actual usage better. 
::Most people use software clients, which they install (or run portably, which a whole different story), but web clients are also available, such as [https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=7c7240c62a5d4861a8ad0ba697929f39 this one]. With the web client, you can just pick a name and connect, without installing anything. Also, since IRC has been around so long, software for it is compatible with almost anything. All desktop and most mobile operating systems support it. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:55, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

:::Thanks for the info! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:24, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

== Re: Vandal ==

Already took care of that and left a note for [[User talk:Teapublican|Teapublican]] on his talk page. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:09, 20 April 2017 (EDT)
:Thank you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:08, 20 April 2017 (EDT)

== Recent item on maintalk -- congratulations! ==

Sorry, I just couldn't resist making fun of you there. I immediately recognized the Breitbart article, as one that I had seen shortly before. And then I saw that it was you. No hard feelings, I hope. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)
:None at all. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (EDT)

::Congratulations! The [[March for Science]] article is a ''really good article''. And you made it so. (Well, with a little prodding from me.) It sets out, straightforwardly, what was going on, and it doesn't descend into namecalling. I realize that you probably have very strong disagreements with what most of those people were doing, but you kept it professional.

::Really good articles, especially on potential "hot button" issues of politics, aren't all that common. Now maybe I will make another attempt to return the [[Pussy Riot]] article to the good state it was in back when I expanded it in 2014, before it got messed up with the implication that anyone who opposes murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin must be a "leftist", "elitist", or "social justice warrior". For which I was blocked, in blatant violation of the rules of this site. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

:::Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, the router I'm using blocked the "Pussy Riot" article because of the first word in the title, so I cannot comment on that at all. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:00, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

::::How sad. I have created the redirect [[Nadezhda Tolokonnikova]] in case that helps. But it probably won't. You had no trouble typing the "P" word above, so I guess it's a problem of your router not going to a page with that word in the title. Maybe I should have named the page with its Cyrillc letters: "Пусси Райот". Well, you're not missing anything of cosmic importance. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

:::::The redirect actually did work. Thanks! The article does not appear to have a high quality (at least in the aesthetic sense), so changes would probably be beneficial, but if you're going to make changes, I would like to remind you to be cautious and not to contradict CP's POV. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

:::In case you forgot, Sam <s>(and how fast it appears that happens with you)</s>, it was ''you'' who violated the rules of this site by putting a liberal POV into that article (among others, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/SamHB per your history]) in the first place, then insistently readding it after your edit was reverted and you were warned about violating CP policy and about starting fights with other editors. You really should take the advice you're being given here and not continue violating CP policy. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2017 (EDT)

A few things:
*Today is my 9th anniversary at Conservapedia!
*I can assure everyone that I am very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP. I am also familiar with the many, many, many discussions of these points that have taken place over the years.
*@Northwest: this is the expected response.
*@1990's guy: this is ''not'' the response I expected. I'm chagrined that you think the article is of low quality. Especially since you know how to write high quality articles.
I'm serious. I was proud of that article as originally written/expanded by me. I thought it laid out the facts accurately, and avoided name-calling and such. Exactly like the March for Science article. Please look at the article (preferably the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&oldid=1328015] version, before name-calling got put in) and fix it up as you see fit. The name-calling consisted, among other things, of saying that those people around the world who took an interest in the case were "elitists" and "social justice warriors on the left". The latter term is straight out of Huffington Post and their ilk. It is a term of bleeding hearts in America, and not used widely elsewhere. In any case, one doesn't need to be an SJW to oppose murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin. In fact, given the recent falling out between President Trump and Putin, the accepted orthodoxy here at CP might be swinging away from support for the murderous thug. I hope so.

Please improve the article.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:28, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

:My problem is not with content; it is with organization, layout, aesthetics, etc. There are no subsections, which at least show the reader how the article is organized; it is just many paragraphs. Such articles do not appeal to the reader. IMO, it feels like reading a textbook. If it is just a few paragraphs, it is fine, but thus article has ten paragraphs. Adding a few headers and possibly an image would be beneficial (and I realized just as I wrote this that the March for Science article is approaching that length as well, so I probably either should just keep my mouth shut or add headers there as well). I did not mean to insult or degrade your work, and I apologize for giving that impression. BTW, happy 9th anniversary! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

:Sam - by your response, you're only proving what I said about your tactics and your history here right. You claim to be "very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP", but you only pay lip service to them here while your actions on CP over the years (and even now) are showing that you simply choose to disregard them for the sake of pushing liberal POV on this site and to start fights with those who don't share your viewpoint. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 18:08, 28 April 2017 (EDT)

== Bill Nye ==

Could you please contact me by email at sam4557@gmail.com? I think we can make a really good article out of this. I have a number of criticisms of his behavior--my opinion of him has gone down a whole lot over the last few weeks, and I think I have some insights about this that I'd like to bounce off of you. I know that you and I disagree totally about evolution and creationism, but we can put together a good article stating the facts. We can stay away from the name-calling that so many articles contain, and avoid things like "so-and-so falsely believes that ..."

This is ''not'' about Pussy Riot, ''not'' about Conservapedia politics, and ''not'' about you-know-who. I just want to bounce some ideas off of you about Bill Nye and see if we can put together a really nice article.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:00, 4 May 2017 (EDT)

== Expanded article, footnote did not support genocide/racist abortions adequately ==

I greatly expanded this article [[Abortion and eugenics]]. The footnote in the liberal article was not supporting or at the very least inadequately supporting racist/genocidal abortion policies of [[Margaret Sanger]], etc.

Specifically, I skimmed the article as far as the footnoted article and it did not appear to strongly support such a big claim like abortion/genocide, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:26, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

==Something isn't right here==
... Ohhh I know what it is. ''Margaret Thatcher'' is on the list of liberals. ''Margaret. Thatcher.'' The bastion of conservatism. A favourite of Reagan. How in the ''world'' did she make the liberal list? [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 09:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:Wasn't me who added her. She was not as conservative as people think she is, as she did vote in favor of legalizing abortion and homosexuality. But, that said, it would probably be better without mentioning her, to avoid people focusing on her mention in the article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

::She might not have been a perfect conservative, but I still think she probably doesn't belong on that list. Of course, if you go back 80 years and read writings and speeches from liberals of the day, they sound downright conservative now. Still, she did defend liberty and much of conservatism. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:::Lady Thatcher's criticism of Simon Callow's performance in ''Amadeaus'' made her homophobic, I thought. Being homophobic wouldn't preclude one from being liberal however, [[Bill Moyers]] and Louis Black for example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']] 15:31, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
I assume that adding the liberalism template to the [[Episcopal Church]] article was improper? I would like to know what the proper usage of this template is for future reference. TEC is one of, if not the most liberal Christian denomination in the US these days, sadly. I do apologize for this improper usage, as I am a new editor. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:Hello Anglican! I removed the template because I thought the article was outside the scope of the "liberal" template. What I mean is that the template links to liberal traits, but not necessarily to liberal organizations. I think the category is good for the article, but not template. I hope this helps! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
::That makes sense. Thank you for your patience. It's sad what has happened to the Episcopal Church in recent years. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:::You're welcome, and I agree. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

== User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on liberalism. So... ==

User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on [[liberalism]].

The article needs major improvements.

I am not going to work on it due to time restraints. I spent a lot of time improving the [[liberal]] article.

I would use the same approach used with the liberal article. Clearly delineate liberalism from socialism/fascism because they are very substantially different (for example, Sweden vs. Communist China vs. Nazi Germany). But mention how the gap between the ideologies has narrowed in the United States. I don't keep up with European politics to know the situation there as far as the gap other than knowing that China has become more capitalistic. European countries commonly have more major political parties in a country so the situation is more difficult to keep tabs on. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:33, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

:I posted the below information on RobS' talk page and thought I would share it with you also. You can go to RobS' talk page to see his response to me.

::I would work on the liberalism article. But also create 2-3 sub-articles: [[American liberalism]] and [[Western liberalism]] and [[European liberalism]]. The [[American liberalism]] article is just a one sentence stub article.

::I suggest a [[Western liberalism]] article due to the Canadians, Australia, NZ, and South Africa. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, 9 May 2017 (EDT)
:::Since the Brits and Canadians have the most influence in the Anglosphere on the USA, you might want to create a [[British liberalism]] article and a [[Canadian liberalism]] article too.

:::Its too bad all this wasn't done before given that CP is a political website. I was largely focused on [[atheism]] which is a dying ideology. This had an indirect relation to liberalism given the prominence of the [[secular left]] on liberal/leftist politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

== Re: American liberalism ==

I copied and pasted some of the [[liberal]] article into the [[American liberalism]] article.

Generally speaking, ideally you want the material in the section for main article linking to a sub-article to have substantially different content. In this case, you want the [[American liberalism]] article to have different content than the "American liberalism" section of the [[liberal]] article.

So if you want to reword and/or add material to the [[American liberalism]] article the would be excellent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)

== Opinion on renaming an article ==

I wanted your opinion on an idea of mines to rename one of our articles on Conservapedia before taking it to an admin or someone with the ability to actually change the name of a page.

The current page [[Exodus of Israel]], I think, should be renamed to [[The Exodus]], where [[Exodus of Israel]] should simply be a redirect to that page. Not many users would think of typing 'Exodus of Israel' to get to a page on 'The Exodus', and 'The Exodus' is just much simpler. As it is, [[The Exodus]] is currently a redirect to [[Exodus of Israel]]. I think it should be the other way around. Your thoughts?[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 13:34, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
:No, I think it is better the way it is. My main reason is that having titles along the lines of "The...." does not sound encyclopedic. The current name, I believe, is more high quality for that reason. Now, it is true that many users might not think of typing "Exodus of Israel," but if they type "[[Exodus]]," they'll run into the disambiguation page and find the actual article. Also, I'm not sure that many people would think of typing "The Exodus." To sum it up, I think the current title is better and give the article a more encyclopedic feel, but you're welcome to ask another editor what they think. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for the thoughts. Wikipedia currently uses 'The Exodus', and I find that it simply looks better, as a title, then 'Exodus of Israel'. Secondly, I also consider it more likely for someone to type in 'The Exodus' then 'Exodus of Israel'.[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 15:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
:Once again, if you want to ask another editor for their opinion, like DavidB4, feel free to do so. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:20, 10 May 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for your opinion. One thing though, do you know who can get this template locked?

At this point, all relevant pages have been created, and therefore this template no longer will ever need any more editing as it is complete. So the best thing to do is to get it locked to avoid any vandalism problems in the future. Just to note, before I came on, it was already locked, even though it still had many problems. Now that the template is fixed, the best thing to do is to get it locked. [[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
:I recommend asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]]. They have protection powers. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 12 May 2017 (EDT)
==Block length==
Thanks for your alert blocks. But one year is a long time for a block. IP addresses often change in a shorter period. You might consider 3 months as a better block duration in many cases.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (EDT)
:OK. I'll see to that. Should I change the blocks I just did? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:26, 17 May 2017 (EDT)
::I just went ahead and changed them. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)

== Congratulations on Donald Trump accomplishments ==

Hey, I just checked Google. While that movie award comes up first when "Donald Trump achievements," is Googled, and you are the first result after, you get nice results with certain other phrases:
*Donald Trump accomplishments - third link, no box
*Trump achievements - first link, no box
*Trump accomplishments - fourth link, no box
*Donald Trump achievements and failures - fourth link, no box
While Conservative's essays come up first when their exact titles are Googled, bear in mind that these phrases are Googled more frequently.
Congratulations on the publicity, 1990sguy!--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 08:07, 25 May 2017 (EST)

:Great job, it is well deserved! - -[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])
::Thanks, Nathan and DavidB, I appreciate it! It seems I chose the right article to create, in terms of gaining page views. For a while, when one searched the exact title of my article, that silly award was not at the top of the article, and in its place was a box with a picture of Trump linking to my article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:24, 25 May 2017 (EDT)
== Can you chat briefly? ==

Can we chat briefly? Can you please go to place I sent you messages before? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:16, 3 June 2017 (EDT)
== Here is the the article ==

*[[Liberal vs. libertarian]]

Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, 3 June 2017 (EDT)

== It's been great ==

You've been helpful since I you first welcomed me here - me, someone who had never used wikitext or HTML in his life and never believed in a young Earth. You've really made me consider that viewpoint, and you've done it with a brilliant personal appeal, far better than User:Conservative ever has.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)

==Europe's childless leaders==
Where do you think [http://dcwhispers.com/rather-odd-troubling-fact-european-leaders/ we can squeeze this in] [[European migrant crisis]]? In the Intro or elsewhere? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 02:13, 9 June 2017 (EDT)
:I think that would be a good idea. We could also, possibly, add it to the [[European Union]] article, and maybe [[Globalism]] or [[Liberal]], as these leaders advocate for left-wing globalist policies. Are you able to find other sources that note this fact? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT)
::I think this also illustrates liberal European values. They support mass immigration of peoples who do not share their culture while they themselves have no children. They are committing national/cultural suicide. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:15, 9 June 2017 (EDT)

== The reason I removed Ted Nugent from Notable Texans ==

Because Ted Nugent is actually from Michigan. Sorry that I forgot to add an explanation. ([[User:King Conservative|King Conservative]] ([[User talk:King Conservative|talk]]) 13:37, 17 June 2017 (EDT)King Conservative)
:I removed him from the list. Thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:16, 17 June 2017 (EDT)

==Template tweak==

Hi, guy! Thanks for the {{tl|See also}} in [[Neil Gorsuch]]. That template works better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 08:53, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome, always happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
==Nasty edit summaries==
Dear 1990sguy: Please stop writing inflammatory edit summaries. There is no need to make false personal attacks on other editors. As for Breitbart, each reference is evaluated individually on its own merits. If it is news reporting, I welcome it. However, some references are clearly opinion-editorial pieces that criticize other news stories instead of offering any independent news gathering. Some authors there are editorial-opinion writers rather than news reporters. Also, when I check a source and see photos of immodestly dressed women with "wardrobe malfunction" captions or women wearing tight T-shirts imprinted with "no silicone", I am less inclined to use those sources, given our family-friendly approach. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:31, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
:Conservapedia has no requirement that only news reporter sources can be used for mews sources. For example, many excellent conservative editorial pieces link to a news story or quote a news story while providing excellent commentary.

:The mainstream press. which is very liberal, have a lot more reporters and they still have some foreign bureaus if I am not mistaken. Then you have Fox which only has a fraction of the combined viewership of ABC, CBS, and NBC.

:To be overly reliant on news sources merely from websites who have reporters is not a good policy.

:Yes, there are conservative news organizations such as CNS News. But I don't think we should limit ourselves to merely using conservative news organizations as far as news sources.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

::I agree with Conservative on this. We can use conservative news sources, even if the articles appear to be editorializing. This is a conservative encyclopedia, after all. Why should we adopt editing policies that give liberal MSM sources an unfair advantage? How then can we differentiate ourselves from Wikipedia? I am not opposed to citing MSM sources (I do it myself), but we should give precedence to conservative sources, which do not have leftist bias. Yes, Breitbart has silly ads, but I care more about the content of the article than the ads. There are many Breitbart writers who support conservative, Christian pro-family policies. Are there any at CNN or the NYT?

::JDano, yes, my edit summaries were inflammatory. I probably should have acted cooler when dealing with you, and for that, I apologize. Your behavior, constantly reverting and adding changes that I genuinely believe to contain leftist bias without going to the talk page until you've been reverted several times, is not constructive. I do believe your changes are undermining our status as a conservative alternative to Wikipedia. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 02:50, 29 June 2017 (EDT)

== re: JDano and you getting "horse throwing" mad ==

In the recent edit changes, I saw you use all caps in your description of your edit. It was for the [[Travel ban]] article.

This tells me that you are starting to get "horse throwing" mad.

If it becomes necessary, you can impose a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] to JDano since you have blocking rights. You can make it applicable to certain articles or certain article categories. Probably a certain article would be best as a shot across his bow.

If JDano also has blocking rights, you can get Karajou/Aschlafly to impose such a ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
:P.S. I don't know if you are correct in this matter. And I don't have time to mediate. I am just offering you a suggestion since I have experienced JDano being unreasonable at times. Also, the majority of Conservapedians/Republicans/conservatives are more fans of Trump than Lindsey Graham. JDano appears to be in the Graham camp. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
::Please see my comment in the section immediately above. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2017 (EDT)

== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the "travel ban" article. ==

I just posted this message to JDano's talk page:

"You are not allowed to edit the [[travel ban]] article anymore. I am imposing a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] on you for this article.

By the way, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in terms of its Muslim population. The travel ban of the Trump administration does not include Indonesia."[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the fake news article ==

I posted this on JDano's talk page:

"The [[fake news]] article was locked/protected. It seems as if the root cause of the page being locked was an edit war involving yourself.

You are no longer allowed to edit the fake news article. I am imposing a Conservapedia topic ban on you for this article. See: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]]

I hope additional topic bans are not imposed on you by people with block rights." [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

== Socks of JamesWilson ==

Socks of this clown should receive five year bans. He is a malicious provocateur, and he singlehandedly destroyed another website as well as leading dozens of people off this site. Show this schlemiel no mercy. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:I don't see why we should be giving long blocks to this guy. He's clearly using multiple ip addresses. These addresses will probably get passed to one or more people who have no intention of vandalizing CP. DavidB4 explained by long blocks are not a good idea on my talk page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&diff=1304184&oldid=1303142] However, I will not challenge your lengthening of that block or any other. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:20, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
::Maybe you do have a point because he has created a few different accounts in the past day or so. All I'm saying is that lightening up on him isn't going to work. My late friend George let this guy off easy, and he destroyed an entire community. I've had plenty of experience with this guy in the past to know his MO, and he's fanatically obsessed with Taylor Swift and "avenging" others because they "ruined" his articles. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:28, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:::That's fair. This guy is clearly bad news. Regardless of what block lengths we give him (and I can see some sense in making them longer), we should try not to accidently prevent innocent people from viewing CP. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
::::How do we know that this editor is a "sock" of JamesWilson? Has anyone checked the IP user logs? The Taylor Swift connection could be a false-flag operation. If George and James got into an edit-war on a different website, that would not be relevant here. Let's judge each editor separately until they can be linked by evidence. Are all of the problem users created in the past few days created from the same or very similar IP addresses? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:27, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:::::He put "Sad case!- James Wilson" in the edit summary of all of his vandalism, and it was the same stuff he's always done. If he says it's him, I'm just gonna assume it's him. Dont give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He's had plenty enough breaks here and elsewhere. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
:::::@JDano: Yes, I think it clearly is JamesWilson. His vandalism is very repetitive -- he even vandalizes the user pages of the same users. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:52, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
*FYI, even if an account is blocked indefinitely, the autoblock on the IPs is only for twenty-four hours. If the IP block was for as long as the account's block, checkusers wouldn't have to put separate blocks on persistent vandals' IP addresses. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:26, 3 July 2017 (EDT)
==Articles==
Since I've written a few articles on Christianity, please feel free to edit them to conform to the views of Conservapedia if necessary. Admittedly, writing about Christianity as a Jew can be a bit difficult at times. --[[User:RonaldB|Ronald]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:35, 5 July 2017 (EDT)
:I have not seen any factual problems with the articles you created. However, I do recommend that you add categories of the religion you are writing about to those articles. For example, that you add "Category:Christianity" to [[Secular Christianity]] and "Category:Judaism" to [[Secular Judaism]]. The people who practice these are not Jews (religiously speaking) or Christians, but the articles are relevant to those religions.

:Also, I recommend that you add at least one source to the articles you create. Adding sources to articles is Commandment #2 in [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], and it makes the articles better for readers. They know where you are getting your information from, and they can read further if they are interested. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:51, 6 July 2017 (EDT)

== Changing my username ==

I don't know if Andy saw my request on his talk page. Did he skip it or didn't see it? --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 9:18, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
:I don't know. Sometimes he does that, but when I message him again he usually replies. I recommend commenting again, letting him know how much you want your username changed, and asking him to respond. I think we will do it, but only if you absolutely want it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:49, 10 July 2017 (EDT)
::I read [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Inquiry|the back and forth]] with the guy you probably were referring to on Andy's page. Andy seemed pretty reluctant to change the RonaldB's name for most of the discussion.. Is the process of changing someone's username complex or difficult to do, or did he just want to make sure that the guy wasn't being wishy-washy about the change? I was a little sheepish about asking him again because I don't want to seem annoying. --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 5:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
:::I think CP admins generally prefer simply creating a new account. The user who made the other request was not the original person using the account. The original person let him take over the account. I can see why Andy wanted him to create a new account. I recommend you politely letting him know how much you want your username changed, and why, and asking him to respond, regardless of his answer. I think that would be a good move on your part. It would show how serious you are with this request. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

== Re: Trump ==

I think Donald Trump is going to get stuck with the blame for the economic bubble created by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwtkIpgAnA]

In addition, TrumpCare probably will not work because it is keeping the "precondition clause" of ObamaCare due to its popularity. People will often not buy health insurance until they are sick. So the health care system will not be viable. Car insurance companies could not be profitable if people could buy their car insurance after their car accident in order to replace their car. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

:You are probably right on both of those things. The first point would be the fault of the Obama Administration, and the second by the establishment GOP Congress. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Got it, thanks for letting me know. --[[User:OneTrueConservative|OneTrueConservative]] ([[User talk:OneTrueConservative|talk]]) 00:12, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:21, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
== Expansion of right-wing material on the internet ==

*[https://www.axios.com/the-partisan-explosion-of-digital-news-2279022772.html The recent explosion of right-wing news sites]

*[https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3dy7vb/why-the-right-is-dominating-youtube Why the Right Is Dominating YouTube] - Vice News

*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HndA5MoxK08 Why the Right is Dominating YouTube (A Response to Vice)]

*[https://www.nctv.nl/binaries/psychological-effects-of-right-wing-and-islamic-extremist-internet-videos_tcm31-30177.pdf Psychological effects of right-wing and Islamic extremist videos] - Netherlands and German report

I know Twitter bans and shadow bans right-wingers.

I haven't looked at the latter two items, but right-wingers gaining momentum on the internet is an interesting development. With nationalism gaining ground in Europe and 21st century [[desecularization]] occurring, the trend is bound to continue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])

===Scriptural Geology===
Scriptural Geologists published in the USA as well. CRSQ published my review of David Lord "Geognosy" (that has other citations as well). [my magazines are in
storage but the year was 2000-2004.] Another recent CRSQ review was Gordon's 1878 book that mentioned USA Scriptural Geologist Martyn Payne.
:Thanks, Snoopy2, for your addition! I noted this fact, briefly in the article, in "The scriptural geologists" section. I knew that most of the Scriptural Geologists were British, and I did not have the time or knowledge of them to go into much more detail. Thanks for your help! Please remember to sign your posts in the future. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:06, 31 July 2017 (EDT)

== important message for you ==

I sent you an important message to the last place we communicated.

I also have some good news for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, 13 July 2017 (EDT)

== BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!! ==

BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!

== Block duration ==

Thanks for your great blocks but they should generally not exceed 6 months in duration. By then the IP address is typically being used by someone else.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (EDT)
:OK. I will keep that in mind. I will change this vandal's block. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

== "Denkmal der Schande" ==

Björn Höcke nannte das Holocaust-Mahnmal ein "Denkmal der Schande". Zudem sprach er von einer "dämlichen Bewältigungspolitik" und forderte eine "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad". Hinterher behauptete Höcke, er hätte den Holocaust als Schande bezeichnet. Wenn man sich nun seine Rede genau anschaut, kann er nur das Denkmal als Schande bezeichnet haben. Höcke hat offen NS-Gedankengut offenbart und dies auch gewollt. Er ist ein Agent des BRD-Systems, die zum Ziel haben, die AfD unwählbar zu machen. Dasselbe haben sie schon mit der NPD gemacht (in den 90er Jahren). Ich find's ja auch schade, dass die AfD unterwandert wurde und nicht mehr wählbar ist. Auch ich habe große Hoffnungen in sie gesetzt. Aber spätestens seit dem letzten Parteitag ist sie unwählbar, die Neo-Nazis gewannen die Oberhand, Gauland wurde Spitzenkandidat. Solange Petry keine neue Partei gründet, müssen Rechtschaffene bei der Bundestagswahl das geringste Übel wählen (z.B. die Freien Wähler oder die BüSo). Aber die AfD ist klar von NS-Agenten unterwandert und ich schrieb noch mehr in den Artikel, also lassen Sie mich zumindest Höckes Rede einfügen, dann kann sich jeder selber ein Bild machen. MfG --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 10:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)
:Grüetzi Elessar, CP ist ein Englisher website, so es ist besser wann wir in English schreiben. Ich denke dass die meisten leute heir sprechen kein Deutsch. Danke. Wass ich sage ist sehr kontrovers in Deutschland, aber, Ich probiere ein klares und gutes antwort zum geben:

:First off, many political parties have their crazy members. I know that UKIP explicitly disavows racism, but it has had some members who have said some silly things. I definitely do ''not'' believe the GOP in the U.S. is racist, but David Duke considers himself a Republican (and every other Republican disavows him). Even the Swiss People's Party in my country (I am also a U.S. citizen) has some members who have said racist things. Just because parties have members like this does not necessarily mean that the entire party is racist or whatever. In the case of Höcke's speech, Petry (the party leader, as you know) condemned what he said, or at least criticized him.

:Second, I know the mindset that the German have today. They are still ashamed for what they did during World War II, and they are still focused on trying to make restitution. Personally, I think it is good that they have repented, but they miss the fact that there are two extremes: one extreme is what the Nazis did, the other is being so ashamed bad things one did that they essentially hate their country. We see this with liberals in the United States. I think the German mindset is too far in the second extreme -- and no, I am anywhere close to being a racist or Nazi. Patriotism and nationalism can be very good things, as long as they are handled correctly and are not an excuse to persecute others. The German people, I think, are trying to extinguish them, and they have accused people, even those in the middle of those two extremes, as being Nazis.

:Let me also make clear that I have not read much about Björn Höcke's speech, other than what you provided and what his English Wikipedia article states, so I cannot comment on his entire speech and his entire character. He may very well be what you say he is. However, what I read about his speech and about him actually seems reasonable. Many peoples all over the world have done many evil things -- slavery in the U.S. and the other European colonies, the Islamic slave trade, religious persecution in Rome and the communist nations, the several genocides in history, etc. However, it is not constructive for cultures to focus on these events. It is good to remember them and repent of them, but not to obsess about them. There is much more to German history than World War II, just as there is more to U.S. history than slavery. Why can't we build monuments celebrating the positive things about our cultures and our people? It is cultural suicide not to do so. While we should not forget the bad events, we should focus on the good events and remain proud as a people in order to remain strong. This seems to me what Höcke is getting at. Am I wrong?

:Reading his Wikipedia article, I came accross this quote: "Die Syrer, die zu uns kommen, haben immer noch Syrien. Wenn wir – durch die Syrer – unser Deutschland verloren haben, dann haben wir keine Heimat mehr." I can see how in Germany this is very controversial, but I think in most other countries, this is quite reasonable. It may not be a bad thing if Syrians come, but it would mean that the German people would be in danger of disappearing, at least in a cultural sense. If someone values this (as most people of all ethnicies and nationalities do -- just ask the Poles or Hungarians), they will strongly oppose immigration.

:Am I wrong in what I am saying? Am I misrepresenting Höcke? I would appreciate some dialogue. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:18, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

::No, you aren't wrong and I too was never questioning that the "eternal fault" (electing Hitler/WW2) which is propagated by German liberals is bullshit. I only mean that Höcke was not only saying that, but he also clearly favorized the Holocaust by calling for an "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad" and calling the Holocaust monument a "Denkmal der Schande". This speech was much criticized by Jewish organizations in Germany and Höcke was forbidden to visit Concentration Camp Memorials. He's not a single exemption, but there are unfortunately already lots of neo-Nazis or neo-Nazi sympathizers in the AfD who are all defending Höcke's speech, including Spitzenkandidat Alexander Gauland. Party leader Petry was forced by them not to participate. These (real) neo-Nazis are system agents who are overrunning the AfD like they did decades ago with the NPD in order to make these parties uneligible by conservative voters. But of course many liberals call all ''real'' conservatives "neo-Nazis" which there is nonsense. But Höcke is really a neo-Nazi and anti-semite and should be excluded together with his inner-party defenders. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

:::I don't understand how the "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad" shows that Höcke is a neo-Nazi. It seems to be saying that German policy on these matters needs to change, which I also think is reasonable. The culture of shame in Germany must end -- when will Egypt build a monument mourning the Islamic slave trade, and when will Turkey build a monument mourning the Armenian Genocide? That's what I think he is saying. Am I wrong? Please explain.

:::While I am a strong supporter of Israel, I do think that many Jewish organizations in Europe and the United States are politically left-wing -- unlike the current Israeli government. The fact that they opposed Höcke's speech is unsurprising, even if he is not a neo-Nazi. Most European/American Jews support the ruling establishment's views on who is extreme and who is "moderate." And besides, Jewish organizations have their own interests. It's reasonable for them to defend monuments mourning a genocide of their own people, regardless of whether having such a monument, or at least the mindset behind it, is a good thing or not.

:::It seems to me that you are making a jump from noting what Höcke is saying to calling him a neo-Nazi. A lot of what he is saying seems reasonable, even if it is better that he watches what he says more closely, and I don't see how these comments make them neo-Nazis (I do see, however, how such comments are far outside the current German mainstream, and that they make such parties less attractive to moderate Germans). It seems to me that Höcke is a nationalist who is angry at the culture of shame in his country, which is probably the reason why it is being flooded with immigrants and weakened by the EU. Many conservatives said silly things (that sounded extremely racist) about Obama when he was U.S. President, even though those people would have voted for conservative blacks (Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain) or Hispanics (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz) in a heartbeat. Could it be that this is what Höcke is doing?

:::My last thing I want to say in this comment is not related to the above. I would like to remind you that CP is a family-friendly encyclopedia, and I think this policy also applies to talk pages. I request that you thus refrain from spelling out cuss words when making comments. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:35, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

::::Sorry about the term "b***" but I'm as angry as you about the "eternal fault" dogma. And you are completely right with most (including the Jews being too liberal in Europe), but in my opinion the quote "erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad" is like he wanted to say "The Holocaust was nothing bad" or "not so bad" or so. Like it would be Holocaust relativation. Maybe Höcke really didn't mean anything bad in his speech but then he's simply uncaring of what he says because he damages his party with such unclear statements. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:34, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::As we disagree on his speech (even though I do think your last comment was very reasonable), I chose to move the info to another place in the article and re-word it. If you have any problems with how I re-worded it, we can discuss that as well. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)

::::::Björn Höcke said in whole this: "Wir Deutschen – und ich rede jetzt nicht von euch Patrioten, die sich hier heute versammelt haben – wir Deutschen, also unser Volk, sind das einzige Volk der Welt, das sich ein Denkmal der Schande in das Herz seiner Hauptstadt gepflanzt hat." This means, not German patriots but the other Germans (liberals e.g.) have founded the Holocaust monument which he calls a Denkmal der Schande. Which means, according to him true German patriots wouldn't have built the Holocaust monument, which can be interpreted as he's pro-Holocaust. The same interpretation is open in his other quote "Wir brauchen eine erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad". Maybe he didn't want to relativate the Holocaust but he should watch out what he says, especially if his party wants to enter a coalition. A coalition with establishment parties wouldn't be bad as long as the AfD maintains its goals and gets many of them into a government program. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::::I can see now how people think the speech was sympathizing with Nazis -- the Holocaust and WWII is a touchy topic, especially for Germans. However, I still see how what he is saying is reasonable. Turkey, for example, is not going to build a monument for the Armenian Genocide anytime soon, Russia is not going to build a monument for the many Baltic peoples they killed during WWII, and Japan is not going to build any monument for the millions of people they killed, including concentration camp prisoners.

:::::::I do know that there are two AfD factions: one that has a goal of becoming a coalition party, and the other that wants to remain an anti-establishment party. Höcke is clearly part of the latter, while Petry is in the former. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:31, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

::::::::The AfD can remain an anti-establishment party and anyway be part of a government coalition, like the Austrian [[FPÖ]] which also seeks being part in coalitions (and already is in two states) and remains loyal to all of its positions. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:09, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

:::::::::Fair enough, but you get the point: there are two factions in the party on the best way foreward for the party. One of them support coalition agreements and the other side is less pragmatic in this regard. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

==Brexit==
Hi - not sure why you changed my edits on the BREXIT page - I tried to provide an accurate account of what is happening and what is being reported by many news outlets --unsigned comment by HORSEMAN
:Hello "HORSEMAN", I removed the info about the potential referendums because this was just speculation that died down. I also thought that some of your wording (such as the "full complexity and impacts of BREXIT become apparent" and by removing the mention of the EU being obstructionist) seemed to insert a left-of-center bias into the article. CP is a conservative encyclopedia, and we align firmly with Brexit and Euroskepticism. However, I will see if I can re-add some of your wording. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
::Another problem is that for the part about the proposed payments and EU citizen rights, you did not provide sources. The existing info already had a source, and you changed the info while keeping the source. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
:::Hi Again, would this link suffice http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-2001_en.htm It is the definitive statement from the EU negotiating team and sets out the negotiating agenda. Thanks Horseman
::::You can definitely cite the source, but do you also have third party sources as well? I see nothing in the EU source about the monetary amount of the settlement. We prefer sources with conservative editorial stances. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:57, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
:::::Is this syitable, I don't pay for Telegraph articles so only have this link. Thanks Horseman
::::::The Telegraph is one of numerous conservative news organizations. Besides, their non-commentary articles are free for viewing. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

==[[Margaret Sanger]] revision that you undid==
Hi 1990'sguy,

Is there a way to reword what I wrote in such a way that it could be considered "encyclopedic"?

Thanks,
[[User:Bluedogdemocrat|Bluedogdemocrat]] ([[User talk:Bluedogdemocrat|talk]]) 22:59, 18 August 2017 (EDT)
:You could write "Planned Parenthood eventually expanded to support the form of murder known as abortion." Something like that. We should keep the wording encyclopedic, as this is not a blog or anything like that. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

== Re: Block of TimJim ==

Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you had already blocked TimJim when I blocked him, so I reset the block length back to that of your original block. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:45, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

== Article move request ==

Hi I'd be happy to move those articles you are requesting, but as you know, I cannot avoid the creation of redirects. Let me know if you want this, but hopefully you can get it done the right way. It's also probably easier to ask for a move than a delete. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:43, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
:I appreciate your offer, David, but I think it would be better if I keep it simple for Andy, rather than explain that the articles were moved and that he only has to delete the redirect -- having one person do it is more simple. Thanks anyway! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
::Agreed...okay. I didn't want to cut in and disrupt things, but just thought I'd offer. Cheers! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:49, 21 August 2017 (EDT)
:::I do appreciate your offer, David. Thanks! It looks like Andy just moved the articles. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

==Contact==
You can email me at wirepaladin36@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 11:22, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

==snoopy2==
1990s guy, I just want to verify u could read the Theistic ev. entry and 1994 film clip on my user talk. any comments?
:I could watch it, but would you please explain what it's about in a little more detail? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:55, 11 December 2017 (EST)

== Maybe I was too pessimistic. Good news ==

'''Why [[Democrats]] Should Be''' Losing Sleep Over Generation Z.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/]

Bye for now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
:Thanks for the article. Bye for now. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

== File comparison tool ==

Did Cons ever get back to you with the comparison tool? I'm curious about it, and whether it does a good job of checking for copied content. The problems that it appears to solve are different from the problems of comparison tools used in software development. I'm curious about whether it uses line hashing, sentence hashing, word group hashing, and things like that. I'd like to try it out, and not just at CP. In fact, probably not at all for CP; I'm not interested in who plagiarizes what at CP, though, when I am, I use other techniques to catch people. I'm just curious as to whether those other techniques have been automated.

It's puzzling that Cons deleted the screenshot, as though he ''wants'' people to believe he's a liar, though I don't think he is.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:57, 12 September 2017 (EDT)
:I can assure you that the tool exists. I have not tried it yet and thus cannot answer your question. I have no reason to try it as JDano's essays were deleted, so I recommend that you ask Conservative directly these things. Maybe he will share it with you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 12 September 2017 (EDT)

::Great!! I'm still very much interested in it. Is it a "cloud app"? Is it a downloadable app that I can run locally on my own computer? Can you send me a URL?
::By the way, the standard wiki comparison of your last edit to the [[Guy Verhofstadt]] article, just as a random example, shows how bad text comparers can be. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:40, 13 September 2017 (EDT)
:::You are going to have to ask Conservative for the details of the tool -- he told me not to give it away to anyone, and while I personally have no problem with sharing it with you, I shouldn't go against what he said. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:43, 13 September 2017 (EDT)
::::Well, this is really weird. Cons seems to be trying to censor the internet itself, hiding the location of this tool. And he seems to think that only you can be trusted with it. He said "I will share this tool with 1990sguy [...] so he can evaluate your [JDano's] efforts in an objective way." I of course took this as a challenge. A Google search for "similar page checker tool" gets a number of hits. Ignoring the ones that cost a lot of money, and those that attempt to check a given page against the entire internet, narrowed it down to a few. This one: [https://www.duplichecker.com/similar-page-checker.php] seems to be the right thing. It's a "cloud app" rather than an installable program, but I can put up with that. It has the same appearance—color and layout—as the screenshot that Cons posted and removed. I ran it on the versions of this page before and after your recent reply to me, and it said they were 100% the same. I'm not particularly happy about that, but the additional text was only about 0.3 percent of the total, so I suppose I can accept that. Then I ran it on versions that differ in length by 10% (the 100K version and the 110K version.) It said they were 98% similar. Not good. But I still might find it to be a useful tool. There are pages not relating to JDano that could benefit from such an analysis.

::::I will probably check in with Cons on this, once he stays away from CP for 10 days.

::::[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:39, 13 September 2017 (EDT)

==Getting help==
I am trying to fix the stuff on the Corporate bullies page. Am still learning my way around on how to use things. Think I am starting to get it though. The Georgia 2016 stuff has a lot of info and I am in the process of editing it, though it's going to take a while (at least 20 or more minutes. I'm trying though. (BTW, if I wasn't supposed to edit here, sorry. I don't know how to reply to your remark otherwise.) [[User:PatriotMongoose|PatriotMongoose]] ([[User talk:PatriotMongoose|talk]]) 22:31, 15 September 2017 (EDT)
:It's OK to edit here. I recommend that you read CP's guidelines, and probably more importantly, that you read [[Help:How to edit a website like Conservapedia]]. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:34, 15 September 2017 (EDT)

==Fabulous block and reverts==

Fabulous block and reverts this afternoon!!!! Well done!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:51, 21 September 2017 (EDT)
:Thanks, Andy! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:52, 21 September 2017 (EDT)

== re: JohnZ ==

User: JohnZ fails to recognize that my interest to be a referee to protect a marginal online sparring partner (whose greatest achievement was his dogged stubbornness to ignore facts/evidence) was largely protected by his edits to main space articles and my desire for an online sparring partner.

His rudeness to other editors and his desire to barely skate by with his main space edits certainly did not help matters. In addition, given the [[decline of the atheist movement]] and it now being a hopeless cause destined to ever increasing irrelevance, my desire for an atheist online sparring partner is non-existent at this point given my current/future priorities.

If he wants to create two quality, well-sourced original articles of at least 2,00 words on these topics [[Anti-religious Soviet Union propaganda]] and [[Christian persecution in communist China]] to restore his other editing privileges, that is what is required.

He would also have to pledge to refrain from hurling insults to other editors (idiot, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, 3 November 2017 (EDT)

:Hopefully he'll do it. We've given him these opportunities before and he rejected them. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (EDT)
::I made a minor adjustment to his requirements for fully restoring his editing privileges in case someone creates articles on those subjects.

::Secondly, ardent secular leftists generally always double down regardless of any contrary facts/evidence presented to them. Of course, you never know what is going to happen. The Apostle Paul went from being one of Christianity's chief opponents to being its greatest champion. He will just need to be open minded.

::It is very widely recognized that there is and has been religious persecution in communist China and that there was anti-religious propaganda in the former Soviet Union. So I am giving him ample opportunity to show that he is not a close-minded individual given to hurling insults. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:31, 3 November 2017 (EDT)

I would say no to this for a couple reasons. The first is his blatant disrespect of everyone here, and he has shown that multiple times. The gist of it is a pretense of superiority over us, as if it is mandatory that we listen to him; he stated a short time ago that some of us are idiots for not engaging him in conversation. Which I might add is his kind of conversation.

The second reason is that he's a leftist brand of liberal from Great Britain, which means we cannot change his way of thinking whatsoever. Unfortunately for someone who is that close-minded he is going to go into lock-step with every other like-minded individual in his country, which would mean the loss of the United Kingdom as a political entity within a few years time. In his case, he is more concerned with picking a fight with the users of a small American conservative website then he is with what he and his kind are allowing to happen in Britain, namely the Islamic takeover. As a leftist, he probably feels he can get along with them in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but when all is said and done he will either be forced on his hands and knees with his butt high in the air, or he'll have his head chopped off.

Unfortunately, some people think they're so better than others that they've blinded themselves to what they're actually doing. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:35, 4 November 2017 (EDT)
:Karajou, if you look at my comment to his talk page, you will see that I am giving him an opportunity to show that he can be open-minded and reasonable by writing on two topics related to atheistic communism persecution of Christians/religious (namely [[Christian persecution in communist China]] and [[Anti-religious propaganda in the Soviet Union]]) via two quality articles of at least 2,000 words.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:38, 4 November 2017 (EDT)

== Anti-Christian bias in Wikipedia ==

Hello 1990'sguy. Am I being hypersensitive or is Wikipedia's anti-Christian bias increasing? For example, the recent dispute about content at Answers in Genesis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnswers_in_Genesis&type=revision&diff=810473662&oldid=810471171] I see also that User:Synthetic Woolly Mammoth[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Synthetic_Woolly_Mammoth] has just been blocked, allegedly for being a sockpuppet of Biscuittin, but more likely because he has been speaking up in support of some Christian editors. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 05:27, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:I know another editor who has extensively edited topics related to Christianity and atheism on WP, and he told me that the ati-Christian bias on the site was much worse back around 2012. The militant atheists don't have as much power as they did back then. However, the anti-Christian bias obviously is still very bad, especially on YEC topics, which I have been dealing with for years already. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)

== Block length ==

Thanks for your alert block of new user "CPishilarious", but I'm going to change the block duration from 2 years to 1 month. Long blocks are disfavored on wikis because they block the IP address as well as the user. The IP address could be a library or other general access IP address, or the user could move or be a college student, or the user could have a change of heart. But thanks again for your quick action.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (EST)
:OK, and you're welcome. I have seen blocked vandals come back with their same accounts after their blocks expire, so I wanted to protect against that. But I will shorten blocks like these in the future. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)
::Thanks so much for your alert block this morning, but again the block duration is too long. Another user could be trying to use that same IP address within a few months, or the user himself could have a change of heart. I'll shorten it to 4 months. Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:25, 4 December 2017 (EST)
:::Andy, it feels like I'm the only editor you're messaging about block length, ''even though my blocks are much shorter than most other editors.'' For example, just yesterday, I blocked two accounts for six months for having a silly username and for (relatively) non-serious vandalism, but shortly later, DMorris reset the blocks for 5 years. See here: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Bernieman][http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hillary_clinton] If you're going (for good reason) to message me for my blocks, please do the same for the other editors who prefer even longer blocks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:33, 4 December 2017 (EST)
:::But yes, I will still shorten my blocks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:36, 4 December 2017 (EST)

== Suggested article ==

Here is an article suggestion:

*[[Donald Trump and evangelicals]]

I think there would be public interest in such an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)
:Thanks. If I get time, I will start this article. I will add it to my list of articles to create. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 9 December 2017 (EST)

== Two things ==

For one, why do you not have email enabled? Secondly, consider longer blocks for these obviously malicious accounts. You can block an account for infinity and the autoblock on the IP still only lasts 24 hours. There is no reason for these sleeper accounts to come back to life three months later. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:19, 13 December 2017 (EST)

:In his defense, he was doing longer blocks until [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length|Andy started asking him not too]], then [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length_2|reminded him again]]. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 16:25, 13 December 2017 (EST)

::Yes, for crying out loud, why am I the only one being criticized for my block lengths? If I make my block lengths long, Andy posts on my talk page, and if I make my block lengths shorter, DMorris posts on my talk page.

::DMorris, please talk to Andy about this. I will continue making my blocks on the shorter side until your differing opinions are sorted out.

::About my email, I have my email address posted on my user page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2017 (EST)

== Articles of the year: 2017 - your article is being featured on the main page (left side) ==

*[[Donald Trump achievements]]

*[[European migrant crisis]]

*[[Atheists and genetic mutations]]

Keep up the good work.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])
:Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:12, 24 December 2017 (EST)

== Nationalism v Globalism ==

I went ahead and added a link to the Gardner article on the Nationalism v Globalism article for you. I figured since we were referencing it, it would be good to see the original article too.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:52, 7 January 2018 (EST)
:Thanks! I already saw and added it to other articles where I mentioned Gardner. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:53, 7 January 2018 (EST)

==Homeschooling==
I deleted the paragraph on Texas requirements (which I originally added) since it was duplicative of the information I added from HSLDA (which covers all 50 states) regarding state requirements. I left the New Hampshire one since it involved a court imposing its will on a family in violation of state law.

I'm glad you liked my original work, but after finding something better and covering more than just one state, I amended my original work. Though after your comments, I revised it to explain that another state court (Texas) made homeschooling far easier than before. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 17:22, 29 January 2018 (EST)

:Thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 29 January 2018 (EST)

==Deep State==
I will agree with your removal of the word "theory", but I did add the phrase "(or are believed to control)" because there are many conservative Christians who are not totally convinced that the deep state really exists. I believe my edits will be a happy medium between those who hold to the deep state view and those who do not. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)
:I kept most of your "is believed/considered" wording (except for the first sentence, which is unnecessary as the first sentence already makes clear that "deep state" is a term and not necessarily reality. I found most of your other changes to be too wordy and unnecessary, so I reverted some of it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (EST)
::I looked at your revisions and all you did was revert to your original article, with a few minor edits to try to convince me that you really took my suggestions into consideration. Basically what you did to the article is like putting wood filler and new paint on a house with termite rot. I've dealt with folks like you over on "the other site", who think that once they write an article, it's perfect and can't accept any changes to it. I'm not going to waste time with this one any more; clearly you're trying to espouse tinfoil hat conspiracy theory under the guise of "Christian conservatism". [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:22, 31 January 2018 (EST)
:::Much of your changes involved inserting parenthetical notes, which I think made the article more bloated than it had to be. The "or are believed to control" phrase in the first sentence was simply unnecessary and overemphasized your disbelief in the deep state. The part about Wall Street was cited to a good research article, so I don't think we need the "is believed" language for that. But I will still see if I can incorporate more of your edits.
:::About the existence of the deep state, it and the drive for one-world government are things that should be common and uncontroversial knowledge -- but people (both supporters and detractors) "conspiracize" these things and that's how accusations of me wearing a tinfoil hat come about. Look at the evidence -- most of our society (except theologically conservative Christians, most of them probably being premillennialist) accept the Idea of Progress, adopted during the Enlightenment Era. They believe that humanity is progressing for the better, and that this will lead to a one-world utopia with world peace and freedom for humanity (read Kant, for example). Thus, they believe that national identity, subsidiarity, and national sovereignty are growing useless and antiquated and actually are impediments to this utopia. This flows into their policies -- advancing international organizations, taking away national sovereignty, etc. As for the deep state, just look at the whole DOJ/FBI stuff going on right now, or the fact that Republicans and Democrats hire administration personnel from the same group of organizations -- CFR, Trilateral, etc.
:::The garbage that there is some secret conspiracy by liberals to take over the world, that their motives are malevolent, that they want to do evil, that this is a short-term project, and that the Illuminati is involved with all this -- this is all garbage perfectly fit for "the other site". In reality, the drive for a one-world utopia is one of the fundamental philosophical views in our culture, and liberals openly see it as natural/normal/benign (and they're in it for the long haul). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:04, 31 January 2018 (EST)

== Suggested Name Change for [[Christmas and Easter Catholic]] ==
I propose changing this to "Christmas and Easter Christian", since the phenomenon of persons attending church on those days is by no means limited to Catholics. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 16:17, 30 January 2018 (EST)
:I disagree. I recommend that a separate article entitled "Christmas and Easter Christian" be created -- C&E Catholicism is a notable concept on its own right, enough to have its own article. I think an article on C&E Christianity in general would be a good addition. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 30 January 2018 (EST)
::What's the difference? Both are the same phenomenon -- "so-called" Christian believers who attend only during those two holidays (or weddings and funerals). The current article is fine, it just needs to be revised to not pick on one branch of Christianity. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:17, 31 January 2018 (EST)
:::I've heard Roman Catholics specifically mentioned much more than other Christians when hearing about this "phenomenon." But I will ask another editor of his opinion on this. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:32, 31 January 2018 (EST)

==Campaign promises==
Hello,

The thought occurred to me that Wikipedia does not normally catalog campaign promises.(It never has, that I have seen) Elections there follow a formula of "what did they actually do after getting elected" and election results - which is both boring and completely useless, because we have a big problem with people running for office one way and then governing another way. This leaves a glaring hole of accountability with all of our politicians and it also offers us an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from Wikipedia. What do you think about this? I made a few changes [[Bruce Rauner|here]] as an example start. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 15:00, 4 February 2018 (EST)
:I think your suggestion is a great idea -- we have too many politicians who make really great promises during election campaigns, but they later act like they never even made those promises. When Rauner and his GOP primary opponent (Jeanne Ives) sat down with the ''Chicago Tribune'' editorial board a few days ago, Rauner said that he never promised he would veto a major pro-abortion bill that he ultimately signed (he actually explicitly promised he would multiple times).[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/30/jeanne-ives-crushes-gop-gov-bruce-rauner-illinois-candidates-meet-first-time/][http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/31/conservative-jeanne-ives-rips-il-gov-bruce-rauner-abortion-flip-flop/]
:I can also think of Sen. Thom Tillis of NC who campaigned against amnesty in 2014 and is now advocating for a "conservative" amnesty bill (though it's inferior to the Goodlatte bill).
:I support your suggestion. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 4 February 2018 (EST)

== FPÖ ==

Hi, I just wanted to ask you why you have removed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Party_of_Austria&diff=1403167&oldid=1403166 my entry] on the article of the Freedom Party of Austria. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreisky%E2%80%93Peter%E2%80%93Wiesenthal_affair Kreisky–Peter–Wiesenthal affair] is an important event in the history of this party that should not be discreeted.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 09:41, 7 February 2018 (EST)
:First off, the info was inserted right in the middle of a paragraph discussing the FPO's ideological development and alliance with the SPO. Your info was out of place.
:Second, the info was unduly wordy. I am sick of seeing the media and leftists do everything in their power to tie right-wing conservative parties like the FPO to Nazi Germany, such as by unduly emphasizing those aspects of the parties and calling them "far-right", "extreme right", "ultra-right", etc. By American conservative standards, these parties are actually quite moderate, and for those of us who realize that Nazism is a vastly overrated threat (placed alongside climate change by the Left), such parties have clearly moved away from their pasts.
:I don't want our articles to accept the left-wing narratives of these right-wing populist parties. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:50, 7 February 2018 (EST)
::Well, all the informations I have put in the article were confirmed with trustworthy sources. [[Simon Wiesenthal]] who accused the FPÖ leader Friedrich Peter of being part in a unit which committed massacres against jews, was himself a Conservative. Wiesenthal supported the (at that time very conservative) Austrian People's Party. So it is not easy to label his accusations as "left-wing narratives". I am also pretty sure that the Conservative government of Israel does not spread "left-wing propaganda" if they criticize the party for its charged history. Instead of simply removing facts from the article, you might emphasize how the FPÖ moved away from its past.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 10:01, 7 February 2018 (EST)
:::Israel is a Jewish state, so issues related to the Holocaust are sensitive to them. But as much as I support Israel and its right-wing government, Israel's position toward the FPO is irrational, and they are unduly obsessed with Nazism like Western Europe is. Israel's opinion on the FPO means very little because of the context -- it's easy to offend Israel on matters like this.
:::About Wiesenthal, I don't know anything about him, but him supporting the OVP does not mean much to me. If the party were "very conservative", why did it support the EU, Maastricht Treaty, Schengen Agreement, etc.
:::And yes, these are the narratives promoted by the Left, the establishment, and the media. These are the same people who were comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler during the election campaign and who tried to smear Breitbart News as anti-Semite (despite loads of evidence to the contrary), among many other cases. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:17, 7 February 2018 (EST)
::::Just because these "narratives" are promoted by the Left it does not mean that they are wrong. I can ensure you that Simon Wiesenthal was never a supporter of left-wing policies. As I already told you it would be better to emphasize the current measures by Strache to reappraise the controversial history of this party instead of denying it.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 11:20, 8 February 2018 (EST)
:::::They're wrong -- they overemphasize every small and petty incident related to parties like the FPO that allude to Nazi Germany. Their point in doing so is to make it seem like that if we elect these people/parties into power (including Donald Trump), we'll be repeating 1933 all over again and will usher in the end of freedom in Europe -- never mind that Germany is still enforcing the Nazi ban on homeschooling, or that many Western European countries have free speech restrictions even on topics like Islam and homosexuality, or etc. Conservapedia will not go along with the media -- we acknowledge that parties like the FPO are conservative and/or right-wing (not "far-right" or "neo-Nazi") and the best choice in order to protect/expand freedom and protect European culture/patriotism. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:58, 8 February 2018 (EST)

== request ==

Can you create this article: [[Donald Trump's major achievements]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 9 February 2018 (EST)
:This seems like a good idea, and I will do it. I won't do it immediately, since I have a lot of other things to do, but I will create it soon. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:54, 9 February 2018 (EST)
::OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (EST)

I'm very sorry about the article. If it make you feel like a advertisement. However, everything that is state is true. Thank you for your understanding. Pleased assist by make any corrections. That you think is necessary. When your time is most convenient.

Your brother in Christ,
Luke
:Thanks for your message, but the article I deleted is not acceptable for Conservapedia. There is nothing I can do to change that, unless you receive coverage from good sources (Breitbart, Fox, etc.). I'm keeping the other article for now, since it's one I can imagine keeping, but I'm discussing it with other editors to see what to ultimately do about it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (EST)

Could you add some categories to my page please? [[User:Willow Smith|Willow Smith]] ([[User talk:Willow Smith|talk]]) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (EST)

==Response to your complaints==
From what appears EVERY time someone creates a new page or edits an existing one:

"Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here."

If the real rule is "any contributions by Conservapedia administrators -- no matter how good, bad, or ugly they may be -- are fixed for all time and never to be altered", then make that the rule. But don't invite someone to improve things, then complain because they do. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 10:26, 6 March 2018 (EST)
:Your bolding does not improve things. Also, nobody reverted your turning pages into redirects -- it's just a good idea to let people know before making major unilateral changes. If your complaint is that I'm messaging you about these things, then you have no real complaint at all. If you make edits here, you (like I was, and still am to an extent) are bound to be messaged about these things, which other editors do with the intention of improving others' editing. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 6 March 2018 (EST)

::Additionally, administrators and editors alike must watch the activity of others, especially newer editors. A few people have the hobby of trying to vandalize CP in any way possible, so excuse us if we sound cynical or obstinate, but some "new users" are actually just the same vandals as always. Since we don't really know you yet, we do our best to assume good intent, but can't afford to ignore what seems to be odd behavior.
::I'm sure you'll do fine, if you just listen to the recommendations of others and keep improving content. Thank you for your efforts, and for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:16, 6 March 2018 (EST)

==Thank you for the intro==
Just wanted to say thank you for the welcome! PS--Do you know what an eagle does when a storm approaches? [[User:Bcarlin|Bcarlin]] ([[User talk:Bcarlin|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2018 (EDT)

== Double standard article is now unprotected ==
1990sguy, I unprotected the [[Double standard]] article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:16, 3 April 2018 (EDT)
:Thanks! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (EDT)

== Regarding the Whale article ==

Hello,
I would like to know what caused you to revert my edits to the Whale article, and what I could do in the future to avoid this.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
:First off, I did not revert everything -- not even close. I reverted what appeared to be unnecessary wordiness on your part, along with your insertion of evolutionist-favored terms ("evolutionary biologists" instead of "evolutionists"--believe it or not, but people who believe in a young Earth can be evolutionary biologists too). If you keep your wording as concise as possible and if you choose your wording while keeping in mind that this is a conservative-Christian encyclopedia (thus, using terms favored by conservatives and Christians), then you won't be reverted. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:10, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
::OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll keep that in mind. I think I was correct about Darwin's views, though - could I reinstate that part?--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
:::Fine, but only if you change that part. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:27, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
::::Done. Thank you!--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:40, 23 April 2018 (EDT)
== Thanks for your edits ==

Thanks for cleaning up the edits to [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]. I was planning to do likewise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:13, 24 April 2018 (EDT)
:You're welcome, happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:15, 24 April 2018 (EDT)

== Ummm... how? ==

Ok... if not supernatural then how is evolution a folklore genre? I don't understand... Do you go to your doctor... Do you believe in evidence based medicine? If so, are you aware that many medicines and treatment methods are derived from experiment on animals... In your viewpoint why? If animals are COMPLETELY unrelated to us IN ANY WAY... then what is the point of experimenting and more importantly, why do those experiments help us develop pills and treatment of diseases? Why do the animals most close to us suffer from related diseases? Why do chimps suffer from HIV and not cockroaches? Just coincidence that our nearest relative is the one who suffers from problems more close to us? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 00:01, 25 April 2018 (EDT)

== Things for you to note ==

Ok... thanks... I feel like there are a couple of things you have to know about potholer54... First, he DOES NOT discuss the political regulations on climate change (https://youtu.be/MTJQPyTVtNA?t=10) in other words, he maintains that political part of the debate (whether conservative or not) is NOT his business. Also, he has criticized leftists for blowing up the effects of climate change (he has frequently said that science does not support earth being destroyed by climate change since in history there have been higher CO2 levels)... these are the reasons why I felt that my wording was correct, but I will not start arguing. Do as you wish. I only ask that if you modify my article please try expanding it (there are enough stubs and short articles here), and cite sources. Even if the sources would not be considered legitimate (by other's standards), citing the sources makes the article look good. I see too many articles, where the writer goes on and on without citing a single source.

About evolution. I do NOT agree with everything here. But I understand your mission. And I understand that people here feel differently and it is NOT my mission to undermine your work. I simply add and create pages which I think Conservapedia lacks, and I try to write from neutral point of view (more experienced people can edit it to sound more conservative, I do not want to seem like a troll).

I did as you commanded. I know the wiki that shall not be named is not welcome here, but I wanted people to have another way to contact me. Anyways, it is removed
--[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 19:09, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
:Responded on your talk page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:26, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

1)Yes... there are several instances of him trying to take the politics out of it... I'll send them later

2)When you say he "criticizes skepticism" as opposed to "denialism" the reader may have the impression that potholer is against being skeptical when in fact he is against what he considers to be denialsim... He is pro free speech, he welcomes questions, I have even spoken with him at length months ago. That is why I wrote what I wrote.

3)That's ok. While my interests change very unpredictably and rapidly, recently I am more interested in history, pseudohistory and archaeology, pseudoarchaeology articles.

4)I understand... I will obey. But just for curiosity, can I know where does that rule originate from? I have read the Guidelines and the Commandments and I did not see any mention of the site which calls itself that which it thinks Conservapedia is not? I do obey, and I respect, but just for interest, where is that rule documented and what is the purpose (since you seem to tolerate other anti-Conservapedia wikis like Lieberapedia) --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 20:48, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

:Responded again on your talk page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:31, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

::OK... Is there a way for me to add images (illustrations) to my articles? How do I do that and what is CP policy on that? Are google images, wiki images ok? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 21:43, 26 April 2018 (EDT)
:::You can post requests at [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]]. User:DavidB4 usually uploads the requests. If the image has a license that allows us to use it, we can upload it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:53, 26 April 2018 (EDT)

== Blocked me ==

Hey...
1)I thought that the ban meant that I was actually banned, meaning the site would prevent me from editing, so when I saw that I could edit, I thought it was ok... I did not know that you meant I should stay away from those topics. I simply thought the article used to many words, so I made it simple and more encyclopedic.

2)Your addition to my article is also written, don't get me wrong, a little too simply. I understand that editors here do not accept the scientific consensus on evolution, but at least you can write it more encyclopedically, like you state that scientists say that humans turned from dumb to intelligent and turned to farmers... That sounds like something a 12 year old would write... Can't you make it sound more scientific. I mean, disagree with it, but at least a)represent it correctly b)write it in a grown-up manner...

3)Why did you delete my "Gay Nazis" article... From what I understand, that is pseudo historical and Hitler hated gays and persecuted them?

By the way, thanks for a reasonable block time... I thought I might be blocked for another two years without a chance to explain myself --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 18:26, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:1) Topic bans mean you're not allowed to edit a topic, not that you don't have the ability to do so. Besides, regardless of your apparent misunderstanding, you removed content that you disagreed with, something I told you repeatedly not to do.
:2) Disapproving of my wording isn't a good reason to remove the entire thing, especially considering that it is one of the few examples in the article that secularists hate. Besides, we're supposed to give reasonably simple explanations when writing (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Style]]). My explanation is what the "scientific/historical consensus" essentially holds, and if that's the case, there's no reason to make it read like it was copied out of a prestigious journal. But regardless, I will see if there's any wording that I could change.
:3) It cited two explicitly left-wing sources that use this example to advocate for social-leftist policies and to criticize modern American conservatives. Surely there must be more apolitical sources out there about this? Also, regardless, it's good not to confuse Adolf Hitler's opposition to homosexuality (and the policies that came out of that) with homosexuality's presence in the Nazi Party. What I mean is that some high-ranking people in the Nazi Party, who helped found and build up the party (most notably Ernst Röhm), were homosexuals, and it's more complicated than "Nazis hated homosexuals."
:4) You're welcome. But also a warning: if you don't improve (and I hope you do improve), I will progressively increase the block lengths. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:55, 27 April 2018 (EDT)

::Ok, fine... But out of curiosity, does everyone on this site share your views on evolution, black holes, relativity, atheists etc? Is this site representative of Conservative (and/or Christian) values in general or a very specific type of sense? Do mainstream conservatives reference this site as an authority? And also, is there a rule (formal) where this has to be YEC or strictly Christian? Or is it an unspoken rule? Or does it depend on editors? I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, I am genuinely interested. One more thing, you told me that I could NOT become an admin/sysop because there were very few, yet you clearly have more authority than me. You block and unblock me at will... How can I get that authority? Thanks! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 23:39, 27 April 2018 (EDT)
:::No, not everyone shares CP's views on these issues -- in fact, we've had some liberals and atheists edit CP on relatively good terms. However, most editors here (including myself, though I'm agnostic on the relativity info and opposed to the CBP) share the vast majority of CP's stated views. As the owner of CP, Andy obviously has the right to choose what it says.
:::CP is representative of, for lack of a better term, what I would call "full conservatism", rather than cafeteria conservatism, where people pick and choose what parts of conservatism they support and what they don't. There are many people (especially in Europe, but also here) who say they are conservative but share many views and even many underlying presuppositions of the globalist Left. CP is pretty consistent with our support for limited/small government and staying true to the values of the founding fathers.
:::It really depends on who you mean when you say "mainstream conservative" -- that's a slippery term that can mean different things.
:::I'm not an admin -- I'm technically an assistant admin, since I have many but not all sysop rights. Even getting those took a while, and it's all at Andy's discretion. If you become a good editor who respects CP's perspective and does not challenge them in any way, you'll probably get some rights eventually. But you were just blocked twice, and you're still having problems learning how to edit CP without undermining its perspective -- I don't think you should count on being promoted anytime soon -- focus on other things here for now. CP has a significantly stricter sysop policy than "the other website", and for good reason -- we're the target of parodists and other people who regularly seek to vandalize and undermine us, and we want to ensure that we don't have to deal with a parodist sysop or anything like that. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:09, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

== Sorry ==

Sorry, you'll have to explain that more... What do I not do? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 15:58, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

== Left Wing Sources ==

Hi... I do not usually look at the political leanings... I cite sources which I am SURE state something that is verifiable... Though, SPLC might be left leaning, I am SURE they can get Richard Spencer's birth date right... So I cited as a source for his birth date... The RWW, was a YOUTUBE video, that is the one I found first, I don't cite them to support left leaning politics, just facts that are verifiable by ANY honest person... I repeat SPLC might be left, but I am sure they can get a BIRTH DATE correctly! So that is what I cited, but do as you please! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 16:22, 28 April 2018 (EDT)
:Surely, there are better sources that give Spencer's birthdate than SPLC. Also, those sources are not merely "left-leaning" (that designation more properly belongs to something like "The Atlantic") -- they are far-left partisan interest groups. They have no business being here. As a conservative encyclopedia, it makes sense to predominantly rely on conservative sources (or, at least, apolitical sources). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:27, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

== Arguing With You ==

Lol.. You are trying to get me to argue about evolution... but the problem is that if I do that I (and ONLY I, ie NOT both of us) will get blocked... It's kinda dirty that you on one hand basically provoke me to argument and if I do respond to your arguments you have the authority to block me... Assuming, this time you really were interested and WILL NOT block me for simply RESPONDING TO WHAT YOU TOLD ME... It is my humble opinion, based on what you have said here, you do not understand what The Theory of Evolution actually is... You seem to think that evolution says that monkeys turned human and that macro evolution means that a new organism appears over time, although macro evolution is THE SAME as micro evolution only on a larger time scale (yes as simple as that)... You have made it clear NOT to correct these errors (ERRORS) so I respect conservapedia rules... I respect what you told me and I keep away from stuff that we disagree on and keep contributing what I can in good faith...

Last time we got into this argument, I pointed out a really good and simple thing... I told you how we can see the familial pattern and the animals closer to us suffer more ailments like us... I also pointed out that experiments on animals closer to us help us find treatment, this was a good point to think about... Instead you chose to ignore it... So I did NOT want to get blocked, so I simply let it go (again, respecting your opinions)... Yet you show NONE of this respect calling 200 years of research "junk science" simply because you have been unable to process this information... @Karajou is YEC too and he thinks that evolution is fake, but he does not push it, and he is not calling me out on "believing" (or understanding, as I prefer) evolution... He simply keeps what he believes to himself... I can respect that!

I am ready to respond if you have questions... But only if I am guaranteed not to get blocked like last time (after I RESPONDED to QUESTIONS addressed to me FOR 2 years)! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 20:40, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

:On a side note, I happen to know of a CP user who openly created a RW account. They were immediately interrogated on evolution as well.
:To the main issue, though, microevolution is not the same as macroevolution. You should really do some research on the subject. There is a significant difference between a change in fur length, and a change in species. That and other issues I disagree with you aside, I don't think you will or should get blocked simply for stating your opinion. As long as you continue to respect our polices regarding mainspace articles, you should be safe. (I don't know the details of the block, but I suspect there was more going on than just an angry response to your opposing opinion.)
:Anyway, I'm cutting in on this conversation, and I should really just let 1990'sguy speak for himself. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:00, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

::@Kingdamian1: I am '''not''' trying to argue with you about evolution. First off, I explicitly tried to end the discussion on Andy's talk page because I didn't want to use it arguing about political positions. Also, I was more focused on your political positions. We all know what you believe on evolution. I was tempted to ask clarifying questions about your ''political'' views, but I thought it wasn't worth it.
::Also, I actually don't care whether you believe in evolution. What I care about is the fact that you are apparently unable to put away your bias when editing CP. Your edits on the [[Potholer54]], [[Pseudohistory]], and [[Macroevolution]] inserted pro-evolution bias into CP (and keep in mind that your first edit after joining was creating a debate page on evolution where the first sentence insulted CP). As I noted elsewhere, you inserted bias on other topics in your edits. I don't care about your personal views on any of this (there are several CP users who believe in evolution) -- the fact that you are struggling to make your editing compatible with CP's point of view is a problem. Hopefully, you're learning.
::Claiming that I'm "''unable to process this information''" on evolution shows how little you actually know about me, and it's not a good strategy for staying on this site. I've thought a lot about this issue, and its strengthened my belief that the Bible is authoritative in all it says and that science affirms it as true (rather than Ephesians 6:14).
::DavidB4's comment above is correct, and to clarify to him, Kingdamian1 was blocked (by Karajou and me) for more than simply giving an opposing opinion. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:18, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
I CLEARLY have it on my page that I am a LIBERTARIAN... according to Conservapedia, that is what you would consider conservative, you keep telling me I admitted I was NOT conservative, where Conservapedia COUNTS Libertarianism as conservative... About evolution, I do NOT think you do not think about the subject, I think you look at it FROM A SINGLE point of view. I suspect that your view about evolution comes from strictly YEC... The first of your many mistakes, is saying that evolution=atheism, when in fact, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of religious people agree with evolution. If you really are honest and interest in BOTH sides and NOT JUST ONE... there are MANY videos you can watch...

I have these 2 videos I usually recommend as they are NOT boring and fun and also explain things in easy to understand terms...
If you are truly interested in BOTH sides, try to seat through these two videos. Watch them in order (1st and then 2nd) as one is kind of answering the rebuttal that followed (the rebuttal you may have in mind when watching the first one)... If you can sit through both of them calmly without getting agitated (They are NOT boring and easy to understand, filled with humor), please, get back to me and tell me (after watching BOTH completely) how has your view changed about what evolution actually is!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnygS7opCA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-ilMYc5xdQ

--[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 23:59, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
:KingDamian, you are bringing back an argument that has been refuted again and again and again. I've seen the videos you posted, and all it does is once more post an assumption that we must accept evolution as true based upon the word of a scientist who said so. So I'm going to ask you once, and I expect a straight up or down YES or NO answer, and it's based on the horse line at the end of video 2: DID YOU PHYSICALLY SEE THE ''EOHIPPUS'' CHANGE INTO THE ''EQUUS''? Keep in mind that I will not accept as an answer anyone pointing to the fossils themselves and saying we must assume a change took place. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:21, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

::Hi... No I have not seen it... But do you realize that if I had that would be THE SINGLE MOST POTENT evidence against evolution? Do you realize that? If I had actually observed the change that would be the single best evidence against evolution NOT for it... AGAINST IT! Do I make myself clear? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 00:26, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
:::And there you go. You haven't seen it happen. And neither has every single scientist who ever lived; they didn't see it happen either. And we have to sit here and take their word - and your's, I might add - that evolution did take place because they eyeballed a bunch of fossils and ''said'' a change took place? We have to ''assume'' the change happened because these guys put these fossils in a nice little line-up? This website will not accept evolution based on hearsay evidence; we will call evolution what it actually is - JUNK SCIENCE; and we will post direct evidence that contradicts what these supporters say about it. Do I make myself clear? [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:49, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

I am not here to argue... I like CP... I think you are worthy of a response, so please don't block me, Brian. Evolution has not been observed? Did you watch it from beginning to end? Evolution Has been observed... What you asked me was if we had observed a SPECIFIC species change over millions of years with my eyes... no I have not. But I have not observed ancient English evolve into modern english either, i have not observed Latin change into Italian either... and you have not observed George Washington s life... so according to your logic, all of this must be junk science too Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
:No, evolution has not been observed; you are arguing, and you have been arguing since day one, when you know full well where we stand on the subject. It's stopping now. And I'm not going to stand for someone who demands we look at pretty pictures just to get us to believe in an assumption; we might as well assume a monkey evolved from a living room wall because Little Billy drew one on it with his crayons. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 07:18, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
::I agree with Karajou and DavidB4 (on his own talk page). Kingdamian1, your comments show you think I'm some "low-information" person who lives in a bubble who will immediately change my mind once I'm "enlightened" (emphasis on the scare quotes) -- your assumption is complete BS (it shows you have no clue who I am). I tried to end a discussion on Andy's talk page and you brought it up again on my talk page (and I didn't even have to be present for it to heat up). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:32, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
:::Also, I just saw [http://www.psypost.org/2018/04/scientific-reasoning-ability-not-predict-acceptance-evolution-among-religious-individuals-study-finds-51082 this study published in a scientific journal] (by evolutionists, with an evolutionist perspective) that admits that there's no correlation between one's level of education or intelligence and their acceptance of evolution. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:21, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
::::Here's a link to an article responding to the "You don't understand real evolution" argument: [https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2015/09/24/do-we-have-misconceptions-about-evolution/] AiG Also has many articles on the many "proofs" of Evolution that have been used ad Nauseum to attack creationism, such as this one about bacteria: [https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/antibiotic-resistance/is-antibiotic-resistance-proof-of-evolution/] Here's and article explaining why the changes that are actually observed are not even really "evolution": [https://answersingenesis.org/natural-selection/is-natural-selection-the-same-thing-as-evolution/] And here's a comprehensive list of some of the most common attacks against Creationist assertions: [http://creationwiki.org/Index_to_Creationist_Claims_(Talk.Origins)]

::::The thing is, Creationists are very well aware of the weapons used against them by Evolutionists and one of the biggest mistakes evolutionists make is assuming that Evolutionists know some critical piece of information that is a "knockout punch" to Creationism, when in reality, Creationists are very well aware of these assertions and have written many articles responding to them. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 23:55, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

One more thing. As Frank Turek, one of the foremost Christian apologists, says "Science doesn't say anything, scientists do." Whenever anyone says "Science says that..." what it should really be is "based on their interpretations of certain observations, scientists conclude..." When people say "Science says..." they are committing the fallacy of reification. A detailed explanation can be found here: [https://answersingenesis.org/logic/the-fallacy-of-reification/] Despite KingDamian1's claims that he is "not trolling" he has carried a rather rude and condescending tone typical of those who attack Creationism. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 13:16, 21 May 2018 (EDT)

:As User:Kingdamian1 is a new user, I feel like he/she should given another chance, rather than indeffed. After all, he/she seems really interested in improving Conservapedia and creating articles here, as evidenced from his/her multiple comments even on Wikipedia, requesting his unblock and his/her desire to change. Would there be any objections to me unblocking him/her, with him/her understanding that he/she is topic-banned from any science-related articles (since this seems to be the reason other editors are upset with him/her)? I hope this helps. With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 04:07, 23 May 2018 (EDT)
::We gave him a chance, and he had more than NPOV problems (which were in and of themselves annoying, since it was my role to check his articles). I was really annoyed at his expectation that he could be instantly promoted to adminship status (and his apparent desperation at it, since he messaged several editors several times about it), when it is very hard and takes a long time even to become an assistant admin. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:35, 23 May 2018 (EDT)

== Question ==

How do you ping someone? (i responded to you on my talk page) [[User:Qw23|Qw23]] ([[User talk:Qw23|talk]]) 17:21, 8 May 2018 (EDT)
:I don't think CP has a ping option. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:23, 8 May 2018 (EDT)

== Hi ==

I'm new to this project and I do need help with this sentence:
{{Quote|[[Mike Pompeo]] and the Trump administration helped secure the release of Kim Dong Chul, Kim Hak Song and Tony Kim from North Korea.{{cite news|author=Andrew O'Reilly|coauthors=Elizabeth Llorente|title=Trump administration finds success in bringing home detained Americans|url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/09/trump-administration-finds-success-in-bringing-home-detained-americans.html|work=[[Associated Press (AP)|Associated Press]]|publisher=[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]|date=9 May 2018}} The three men described their “deep appreciation” for the Trump administration for help freeing them.{{Cite news|last=Dorell|first=Oren|title='God Bless America': Freed American prisoners thankful after being released from North Korea|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/05/09/north-korea-kim-jong-un-free-3-american-citizens/582094002/|publisher=[[USA Today]]|date=9 May 2018|accessdate=10 May 2018|quote=We thank God, and all our families and friends who prayed for us and for our return}}</ref>}}

I believe it should go under [[Donald Trump achievements: Foreign policy]] but for 2018, which section do you believe it fits best under? Also, how do sources work here? --[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 15:14, 11 May 2018 (EDT)
:I already added this to the article, but I will look through your sources to see if more can be added. References could be surrounded by ref tags, like this : <code><nowiki><ref>[citation]</ref></nowiki></code> --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:29, 11 May 2018 (EDT)
::Hi [[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] I just want to let you know I'm glad I'm learning how to edit here. I just recently added the ISIS statements on [[Justin Trudeau]] and also mentioned [[Maxime Waters]] on this edit [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=2017_left-wing_violence&diff=prev&oldid=1422057]. I will allow you to monitor me if any edit I do is good or bad, and I will message you if I need anything. Regards.
--[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 10:03, 15 May 2018 (EDT)
:OK, thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 11:01, 15 May 2018 (EDT)

== A Message for that British Troll ==

Just in case (s)he makes another sock account, (s)he should know that campaign finance laws are unfair and D'Souza was directly targeted because of his unpopular opinions. Also, in the case of Roy Moore, there is only accusations and hearsay. That troll must also ignore the things that Leftist politicians did:

Bill Clinton: raped, molested and abused several women.

Hillary Clinton: Deflected responsibility for Bengazi, kept emails on her own private servers illegally, and covered up her husband's illicit affairs.

And I'm sure you could name more. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 09:21, 24 June 2018 (EDT)

== Conservapedia's Opinion on Joseph McCarthy ==

Hello,
I noticed that you reverted my edit to the Joseph McCarthy page. I made the edit to align with the views expressed in a news story I saw in the main page that described McCarthy as "two of a kind" with Robert Mueller. I feel that Conservapedia should be consistent, so I would appreciate it if the news story was removed/replaced, or the McCarthy article was changed.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 18:35, 16 May 2018 (EDT)
:I added sources from a reliable conservative source backing up the article. Besides, the sentence as it is now is more neutrally-worded than your wording (I think even the person who posted the news blurb could agree with it). Bottom line: the article is fine, but it's not worth fighting what is a good analogy (considering that we have many leftist readers who hate McCarthy) on the news feed. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:48, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

== About draft ==

I just replied to your email. Its for here, not for Wikipedia. --MaddieJ 14:45, 18 May 2018 (EDT)

== [[Brian and Ed Krassenstein]] ==

I created the article [[Brian and Ed Krassenstein]]. If you would like to do improvements and better grammar to it, feel free to do so. --[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 14:38, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

== Barack Obama's achievements ==

See: [[Essay: President Barack Obama's achievements]]

It required a lot less work than your article [[Donald Trump achievements]]. :)[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:59, 29 May 2018 (EDT)

:Ha! And the little that Obama actually did is being wiped away by President Trump right as we speak! :) --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:22, 29 May 2018 (EDT)

==Finland==
I didnt find a way to send a message here so i assume, once its a wiki, that im supposed to edit this page when i want to contact you. Im not sure if i comment on the articles talk page, would it inform you?
I wanted to ask you about your edits of Finland's article, noticed few grammar mistakes that you corrected but didnt get why the day of independence cant be on the page? Then wanted to mention hat the the Lapps is a same name as Sami, so its like mention the same ethnic group twice.
Then i wondered why the population of the capital city shouldnt be mentioned?
The name of party Perussuomalaiset is in english "the Finns Party" not "True Finns".
There is also few smaller issues i will come back to them later. So would be nice to have a talk about these. Thanks. -Karjalainen

:First off, thank you for editing, and for messaging me here! The problem with the date of independence is that the infobox does not have a parameter (at least that I'm aware of) for the date of independence. This means that if you add the date of independence like what you did, the infobox will not actually show it to whoever is reading.

:I was not aware that the Lapps and Sami are the same. I will fix this. I will also fix the part about the Finns Party, since you're also right on this.

:I just didn't think it was necessary to list the population of Helsinki, especially since the population keeps changing and few editors are available to change it. But, if you want to add the population on the [[Helsinki]] article, you are free to do so.

:I noticed that you updated the economic information using Euros, rather than dollars. The reason why I changed it back is that most Conservapedia readers live in the United States, and the dollar is obviously what they use (and they probably don't know the exchange rate). We can mention the numbers in Euros, but we should also use dollars. Since I don't know the exchange rate, I did not add both.

:I hope all this helps! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:05, 22 July 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for answering.
I dont know if this info can be found but is CP based on the MediaWiki platfom? If yes, is it being updated when never versions come out?
Scrolling around some tutorial pages i found a template of countries where i took that "established" tag from, why does it exist if it doesnt show?
How do you edit the sources? I wanted to add but i dont see the other sources listed there?
Is there any plans to add to CP also other languages?
Is there a way to add both mi2/km2 or $/€ ? Would be nice to attrack also non-american readers and make this website even bigger and popular, maybe one day to replace wikipedia as the biggest.
I will write the issues concerning Finland on the talk page of Finland, please refer to there. -Karjalainen
:Sorry for the belated response. CP is based on the MediaWiki platform, but we use a different infobox than Wikipedia -- we didn't just copy and paste their infobox. We do update it, but I don't know how often.
:You can add sources by putting them in in between a tag like this <code><nowiki><ref>[source]</ref></nowiki></code>
:There are no plans to make CP in a different language that I am aware of, but I recommend asking Andy Schlafly, the site's owner here: [[User talk:Aschlafly]].
:Unfortunately, I do not know how to add both mi2/km2 or $/€ to the infobox.
:I will take a look at your message on the Finland talk page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:23, 26 July 2018 (EDT)

== Five solas ==

Hearty thanks, 1990'sguy, for your assist with [[Five Solas]]! --[[User:Dataclarifier|Dataclarifier]] ([[User talk:Dataclarifier|talk]]) 14:44, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
:You're welcome! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:24, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
== requested article: Trumponomics ==

Article request: [[Trumponomics]]. It would be a nice complementary article to our [[Obamunism]] article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:40, 5 August 2018 (EDT)
:I'll see what I can do. The [[Donald Trump achievements: Economic policy and labor]] (along with the trade sub-article) give a pretty good overview of his economic policies and the effects of those policies. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:48, 5 August 2018 (EDT)

==Contact==
I don't have yours, either. Use this: nobs315@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 23:07, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
:Mine is on my user page. You can verify there. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:18, 15 August 2018 (EDT)
==Capital Punishment==
By quoting Genesis 9:5 you are confusing what God is permitted to do versus what man may do and how man is to conduct himself in relation to his fellow man. It is also inaccurate to write that Jesus had nothing to say on the subject of capital punishment when he directly called into question the teaching of "eye for an eye."[[User:Tulip Festival|Tulip Festival]] ([[User talk:Tulip Festival|talk]]) 19:02, 17 August 2018 (EDT)
:No, Genesis 9:5-6 clearly says that the just punishment for taking a human life is that one's own life be taken. The proportionate and just punishment for murder is not jail time, nor community service. You're confusing what the Bible says regarding personal conduct and governmental policy, which is not personal. I recommend you read these two links: [https://www.gotquestions.org/death-penalty.html][https://answersingenesis.org/culture/the-death-penalty-wdjb-not-wwjd/] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:15, 17 August 2018 (EDT)

== HTTP -->HTTPS update ==

As you probably saw, I have moved this list to: [[User:DavidB4-bot/HTTPS URL update project]]. Thank you for your additions to the list...my apologies for adding your entries to the new page under may name. I hope you don't mind. Please feel free to continue adding to that list. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 23:45, 10 September 2018 (EDT)
:Thanks, and thanks for creating this list! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:49, 10 September 2018 (EDT)

== i try ==

More than a single sentence? Okay I can try. [[User:Knockforpeace|Knockforpeace]] ([[User talk:Knockforpeace|talk]]) 19:29, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
::Sorry i have a disorder. I will try to add more. [[User:Knockforpeace|Knockforpeace]] ([[User talk:Knockforpeace|talk]]) 19:39, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
:::See [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:41, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
::::Tutoring avalible? By you? [[User:Knockforpeace|Knockforpeace]] ([[User talk:Knockforpeace|talk]]) 19:45, 15 September 2018 (EDT)
:::::Read and follow all of the links provided at the very top of this talk page. That will help you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:09, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

== Logician account ==

It wasn’t a troll. Could you unblock it? Also, I removed Russell and Whitehead’s Principia Mathematica because it’s supposedly recommended reading. Thing is though that it’s such dense and complicated symbolic logic that no one would actually be able to understand it. It shouldn’t be recommended reading. Anyway, thanks. [[User:Anaxagoras|Anaxagoras]] ([[User talk:Anaxagoras|talk]]) 12:36, 20 September 2018 (EDT)
:I will unblock the account (though I will procedurally block the "Anaxagoras" one), but do not remove the Principia Mathematica book. It may be dense and complicated, and it may be to the extent that laypeople can't understand it, but it should remain for those who can understand it and who will find it useful. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:50, 20 September 2018 (EDT)

== Re: [[Kavanaugh smear]] article name change ==

A high proportion of CP's readers lean left. I changed the title because I thought the new title would engender less cognitive resistance to these readers and therefore be more likely to change their mind. In addition, I thought the new title sounded more encyclopedic.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, 23 September 2018 (EDT)
:That's understandable, but the article is not about opposition to Kavanaugh in general, it's specifically about the accusations made against him by left-wing people (as opposed to people criticizing him with his judicial philosophy being the stated reason). I'm not opposed to the page being moved, but it would be a title that makes it clear that the article is specifically about the attempted rape allegations against him. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:37, 23 September 2018 (EDT)
::The allegations against him are a joke. It is a reflection that the Democrats are a sad joke. All the corroborating witnesses say the events never happened.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:14, 24 September 2018 (EDT)
::::Exactly -- they're politically-motivated character assassination, nothing more. Thus, "Kavanaugh smear" is an appropriate title for the article. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:24, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

:::I have chimed in [https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Kavanaugh_smear&curid=150814&diff=1450439&oldid=1450438 here]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 10:28, 24 September 2018 (EDT)

== Re: Switzerland vs. Britain ==

I believe you have visited Switzerland.

Below is a post I made to some left leaning atheists/evolutionists.

Gentlemen,

Don't think I haven't noticed your silence on Swiss trains being more timelier than British trains. What's your excuse for British trains being less timelier than Swiss trains?

Just admit it. The [http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/06/switzerland-beacon-of-european.html industrious and wealthy Swiss], who have one of the highest rates of creationism in Europe, have a better, wealthier and more efficient society than post Darwinism Britain.

By the way, deny that Britain is the fountainhead of Darwinism and lose all credibility!

=== Main page right post in question ===

'''The British recently had a hard''' time getting their trains to run on time.[https://www.bbc.com/news/business-45572736]

According to [[Wikipedia]], "The Swiss rail network is noteworthy for its density, its coordination between services, its integration with other modes of transport, timeliness and a thriving domestic and trans-alp freight system."

Why can't [[Britain]], the fountainhead of [[Darwinism]], compete with [[Switzerland]] which is known for having one of the highest rates of [[creationism]] [[per capita]] in Europe?[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/06/switzerland-beacon-of-european.html][[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:01, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

:I have dual Swiss citizenship, so yes, I have visited the country multiple times. For the record, some (not many, though) of my relatives there are biblical creationists. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:37, 23 September 2018 (EDT)

==Formatting of quotes==

Thanks for the {{tl|cquote}} thing - I had forgotten that template. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] [[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]] 09:15, 26 September 2018 (EDT)
:You're welcome -- happy to help! --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:21, 26 September 2018 (EDT)

== Trumpiantexan is a vandal ==

There's a Vandal called "Trumpiantexan" [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 18:53, 16 October 2018 (EDT)

== Why you said this so.. ==

...'' I don't know if his pro-Marx comments actually make him a communist. He's your typical globalist/liberal European uniparty elite.'' It is not mine definition but more a true fact. Regards, [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 11:15, 20 October 2018 (EDT)
:Most liberal/globalist European elites think the same way Juncker does. It would not be a good idea to label them all as communists. They have many of the same goals as communists, but there is some nuance between them (for example, different different tactics/methods, and Juncker and many of his friends are part of "liberal" or "center-right" parties, and seem to like big corporations). Either the "liberal" and "globalist" categories are enough (since liberals and globalists have many similarities with Marxists, like Juncker), or a new category is needed. I prefer the former, as it doesn't imply that liberalism and globalism are too different from Marxism and communism (different strands of the same thing, and the existing categories take the nuances into account). --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:00, 20 October 2018 (EDT)

== Cesar Sayoc Article==
Wouldn’t a person with prudent ethics be willing to discuss whether or not a new article should be deleted prior to deleting said article? Cesar Sayoc is dominating the headlines of America yet you say he is a ‘nobody’? Based on your reasoning the [[Lee Harvey Oswald]] article should be deleted immediately.--[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 17:01, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
:Lee Harvey Oswald has historical significance -- and fortunately, we get the facts right, that he was a left-wing Marxist (a fact many on the Left like to ignore). The Cesar Sayoc guy may be dominating headlines (of the left-wing mainstream media and the Left, which want to capitalize on this single incident of a mentally ill man and put a rug over the [[Left-wing violence in the Trump era|many examples of leftist violence in the past couple years]]) at the moment, but his 15 minutes of fame will soon end and his 58-year jail sentence will soon begin. I let the other administrators know of the dispute over this page, and they will decide soon. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:08, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
::I got the facts right in the Sayoc article, I hope you are not implying otherwise. I’d like to think the Best of the Public could create an article free from liberal bias. Alas, it looks like the readers of Conservapedia will have to suffice with the liberal slant since you are keen to prevent this educational resource from telling the truth. Sad.--[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 17:35, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
:::All the facts except that he wasn't a bomber. ''Per the Associated Press'': {{quotebox|7:50 p.m. A law enforcement official says tests have determined that a powder found inside an envelope delivered to CNN along with a pipe bomb was harmless. The official wasn’t authorized to discuss the investigation publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. New York City’s police commissioner said earlier Wednesday that the package sent to CNN’s offices in Manhattan contained a live explosive and an envelope containing white powder. The FBI said the package was similar to explosives sent to former President Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, former Attorney General Eric Holder and billionaire George Soros. The package sent to CNN was addressed to former CIA Director John Brennan, a frequent guest on the channel. The official says that parcel contained no note or claim of responsibility. — Tom Hays Associated Press, October 24, 2018}} [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 17:41, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
::A man sends bombs through the mail, and in your opinion, he is not a bomber? The director of the FBI is quoted as saying the devices were ‘…not hoax devices’. What, exactly, is your definition of a bomber?--[[User:JLind|JLind]] ([[User talk:JLind|talk]]) 18:17, 26 October 2018 (EDT)
:::They were too hoax devices. You have terrible reading comprehension. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 01:44, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Why did you block me? All I did was state the obvious fact that Joe Manchin is a DINO. he voted to confirm Kavanaugh, confirm Gorsuch, and supports the coal industry. He's even more right-wing than Lisa Murkowski! [[User:Libertarianmoderate2|Libertarianmoderate2]] ([[User talk:Libertarianmoderate2|talk]]) 17:50, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
:Manchin lives in a state that voted for Trump by 40 points, and he knows it. He's appealing to the people of his state so he doesn't alienate them. Take a broader view, rather than look at the narrow set of issues where he made a big deal of supporting right-of-center people on -- for example, notice how he's voted against many of Trump's conservative circuit court nominees and several cabinet nominees. Also, when there were narrow votes for any nominee or bill, Manchin voted with Democrats -- he only voted with Republicans when his vote wasn't anywhere close to affecting the vote's outcome. And his support for Planned Parenthood is pretty extreme for a red-state Democrat who has claimed to be pro-life. I stand entirely by my reverts, and CP has never considered Murkowski a conservative, AFAIK. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:44, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
::And look at his record with the 2A -- he has a "D" rating from the NRA, a moderate (as opposed to GOA) pro-gun organization -- several Democrats even have better ratings than him.
::In short, Manchin only votes with conservatives in high profile votes when his vote is not a deciding factor in whether the bill/nominee will pass. He's not a conservative, and he's in line with the Democrat Party. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 18:54, 28 October 2018 (EDT)

Sorry about that. In the meantime, I'm a very skilled wiki writer who wrote for Wikivoyage for a while, and my skills are exactly what this site needs. I hope you can overlook this disagreement. [[User:Libertarianmoderate2|Libertarianmoderate2]] ([[User talk:Libertarianmoderate2|talk]]) 19:58, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

==Pinging==
I tried to ping you, but it didn't work. I typed {d{Ping|1990'sguy}d} (remove the d's, I added them here so it comes out as text). [[User:Libertarianmoderate2|Libertarianmoderate2]] ([[User talk:Libertarianmoderate2|talk]]) 20:26, 29 October 2018 (EDT)

== Troll ==

Eleonóra Dubiczki is defacing the page on Rightpedia. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 14:47, 3 November 2018 (EDT)
:There's another one named Fiala, probably a sock of the same person. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 14:50, 3 November 2018 (EDT)

==UN migrant treaty==
We're gonna need a [[UN Migrant Treaty]] page. To begin, we need a thumbnail sketch what it is, then a list whose all opposed. Do you have any info to help start? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 15:46, 22 November 2018 (EST)
:Yes -- or [[UN Global Compact on Migration]] or something like that. Several countries have already said they will leave, so it will take some effort to track them all down. I can help. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 22 November 2018 (EST)
::Coincidentally, I found this article giving a good list: [https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/11/22/world-follows-trumps-lead-nations-abandon-legal-framework-building-un-migration-pact/] I can create and/or expand the article, if you want. I think the biggest issue will be what the title should be. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 22 November 2018 (EST)
:::I'd suggest UN Migrant Treaty, then bolden the formal title; its already being discussed as "the [[migrant treaty]]". Moves & redirects can be done as needed. But both the [[European migrant crisis]] and [[2018 Migrant caravan]] already need minor subsections or references to it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 19:53, 22 November 2018 (EST)
::::I started it. I will do more work tomorrow, if I have time. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:56, 22 November 2018 (EST)

==Wanna chat?==
Hey, I'm curious if I could get to know you. I like your edits. [[User:AnnBelleAldaco96|AnnBelleAldaco96]] ([[User talk:AnnBelleAldaco96|talk]]) 22:00, 28 November 2018 (EST)

:You can either contact me through my CP email address or through this talk page. I won't reveal/discuss personal/private info about myself (obviously), but I'd be happy to talk. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:32, 28 November 2018 (EST)

== Does CP hate video games? ==

I think the tone of the video games article is a little too critical. If you truly are a 1990's guy, then you probably grew up with video games too. You probably also remember the controversy of video game violence back in the 90s too (perhaps there should be a section in the article on that). Ironically, the members of Congress who pushed for potential legislation were two Democrat senators, Joe Lieberman and Herb Kohl. I was, along with my fellow kids of the 90s, booing and jeering at the old people who knew nothing about video games criticizing our hobby. There is a reason why the article "Essay:Greatest Conservative Video Games" exists. Most of the people who criticize video games are older people who didn't grow up with them. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 11:15, 29 November 2018 (EST)

:To be clear, the 1990s was the decade I was born in, so unfortunately, I don't have firsthand knowledge of the controversies of that decade. I played some video games, though not as much as other people, and only on my Gameboy and Nintendo DS, and I lost all interest by the time I turned, roughly, 13.

:I have nothing against video games in and of themselves, and I still think positively of some of the games I played. However, I think many of the criticisms of video games -- such as encouraging obesity and staying indoors rather than going outside -- are valid. Also, video game addition appears to be a real problem: [https://www.foxnews.com/tech/girl-9-sent-to-rehab-after-refusing-to-stop-playing-fortnite-wetting-herself][https://www.foxnews.com/health/compulsive-video-game-playing-now-qualifies-as-mental-health-condition] Those problems probably aren't inherent to video games, though -- they can and are used in good, harmless ways too, as I have experienced. That said, it's not a topic that I have strong feelings on.

:About the article itself, it is Andy's choice to have the article the way it is. There is nothing I can do about it -- it would have to be something you would have to discuss with him if it should be changed. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:20, 29 November 2018 (EST)

== Explaination of edits to the page regarding Thomas Aquinas and theft ==

Did Aquinas endorse theft?

Without the full quote from the Summa Theologica it would appear so, However:
Whether it is lawful to steal through stress of need?
Objection 1: It would seem unlawful to steal through stress of need. For penance is not imposed except on one who has sinned. Now it is stated (Extra, De furtis, Cap. Si quis): "If anyone, through stress of hunger or nakedness, steal food, clothing or beast, he shall do penance for three weeks." Therefore it is not lawful to steal through stress of need.

Objection 2: Further, the Philosopher says (Ethic. ii, 6) that "there are some actions whose very name implies wickedness," and among these he reckons theft. Now that which is wicked in itself may not be done for a good end. Therefore a man cannot lawfully steal in order to remedy a need.

Objection 3: Further, a man should love his neighbor as himself. Now, according to Augustine (Contra Mendac. vii), it is unlawful to steal in order to succor one's neighbor by giving him an alms. Therefore neither is it lawful to steal in order to remedy one's own needs.

On the contrary, In cases of need all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another's property, for need has made it common.

I answer that, Things which are of human right cannot derogate from natural right or Divine right. Now according to the natural order established by Divine Providence, inferior things are ordained for the purpose of succoring man's needs by their means. Wherefore the division and appropriation of things which are based on human law, do not preclude the fact that man's needs have to be remedied by means of these very things. Hence whatever certain people have in superabundance is due, by natural law, to the purpose of succoring the poor. For this reason Ambrose [*Loc. cit., A[2], OBJ[3]] says, and his words are embodied in the Decretals (Dist. xlvii, can. Sicut ii): "It is the hungry man's bread that you withhold, the naked man's cloak that you store away, the money that you bury in the earth is the price of the poor man's ransom and freedom."

Since, however, there are many who are in need, while it is impossible for all to be succored by means of the same thing, each one is entrusted with the stewardship of his own things, so that out of them he may come to the aid of those who are in need. Nevertheless, if the need be so manifest and urgent, that it is evident that the present need must be remedied by whatever means be at hand (for instance when a person is in some imminent danger, and there is no other possible remedy), then it is lawful for a man to succor his own need by means of another's property, by taking it either openly or secretly: nor is this properly speaking theft or robbery.

Reply to Objection 1: This decretal considers cases where there is no urgent need.

Reply to Objection 2: It is not theft, properly speaking, to take secretly and use another's property in a case of extreme need: because that which he takes for the support of his life becomes his own property by reason of that need.

Reply to Objection 3: In a case of a like need a man may also take secretly another's property in order to succor his neighbor in need.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquinas/summa/sum322.htm

"In cases of need all things are common property, so that there would seem to be no sin in taking another's property, for need has made it common" is not in the Summa Theogica and is therefore inaccurate and misleading. The quote should be:

"It is not theft, properly speaking, to take secretly and use another's property in a case of extreme need: because that which he takes for the support of his life becomes his own property by reason of that need."

I will therefore change the quote to the correct quotation. {{unsigned|JPConservative}}

:Look again -- both quotes are there, and they're quoted accurately. The article is correct in saying that Aquinas does not take a strong position on property rights as other conservatives (including John Locke, the intellectual father of the founding fathers) held. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 15:39, 11 December 2018 (EST)

The quotes used misses out that Thomas Aquinas was referring to those who might die of starvation, not merely out of need. The original quotes in the article imply that he supported "Socialism" which is not so. Aquinas did take a strong stand on property rights, he made one exception, those who face death can take some food (and by implication, water & clothing.) This is the interpretation that the Catholic Church uses and is supported by the majority of Thomists. {{unsigned|JPConservative}}

:Once again, the quote mentioning hunger was already quoted in the paragraph. Also, the paragraph doesn't say that he supported socialism, but that it represented a slippery slope. Either way, his position is weaker than that of some other intellectuals who wrote on property rights. I might (possibly) be OK with a single short sentence/phrase saying that overall he supported property rights, if you can back it up, but the specific info you're citing does not back it up. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:03, 11 December 2018 (EST)

Yes hunger is mentioned, but the meaning has been distorted, I can assure you that having studied the Summa Theologica in a monastery guided by a Thomist professor that the section on Politic Philosophy is wrong. It is not a correct interpretation of Aquinas's political views. Thomas Aquinas clearly upholds property rights in the Summa Theologica:

I answer that, Two things are competent to man in respect of exterior things. One is the power to procure and dispense them, and in this regard it is lawful for man to possess property. Moreover this is necessary to human life for three reasons. First because every man is more careful to procure what is for himself alone than that which is common to many or to all: since each one would shirk the labor and leave to another that which concerns the community, as happens where there is a great number of servants. Secondly, because human affairs are conducted in more orderly fashion if each man is charged with taking care of some particular thing himself, whereas there would be confusion if everyone had to look after any one thing indeterminately. Thirdly, because a more peaceful state is ensured to man if each one is contented with his own. Hence it is to be observed that quarrels arise more frequently where there is no division of the things possessed.

The second thing that is competent to man with regard to external things is their use. In this respect man ought to possess external things, not as his own, but as common, so that, to wit, he is ready to communicate them to others in their need. Hence the Apostle says (1 Tim. 6:17, 18): "Charge the rich of this world . . . to give easily, to communicate to others," etc.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/aquinas/summa/sum322.htm

Yes, I can back up my claims. The quoted I cited are from authorized sites. I have used the quotes as written and provided links, so please explain how I am wrong?

Here is additional proof that Thomas Aquinas upheld property rights https://tifwe.org/five-insights-about-private-property-from-aquinas/
{{unsigned|JPConservative}}

I have added further material to refute the idea that the writings of Thomas Aquinas can be used to support Socialism. If you edit or remove it, please first demonstrate that I am wrong. Thank you & God Blessings be with you.

==just an idea...==
What do you think of coining the term [[anti-constitutionalist]] to describe people who oppose constitutionalists? People who oppose free speech, gun rights, due process, etc. There certainly are a lot of them in the upcoming session of Congress.

First, we'd need a working definition, then a list of members with their stated positions. The idea may catch on. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 23:52, 12 December 2018 (EST)

:I like it. What do you think of a definition along the lines of "someone who opposes the rights contained in the Constitution, and by extension, the United States as envisioned by the founding fathers"? This is just a draft proposal, the wording wouldn't be final. Maybe we should note that the Constitution reflects a classical liberal philosophy, showing that these "liberals" reject liberalism? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:06, 13 December 2018 (EST)
::Yes. In various articles [[Justice Kavanaugh]] is refered to as a constitutionalist, so I suspect we'll be hearing more of term in the future.

::Now, advocates for Amending the Constitution wouldn't automatically fall into this category. People who want to abolish the Electoral College or hold a constitutional convention, for example - if that is their single issue. I'm thinking of people who want outright repeal of the 2nd Amendment, advocate free speech suppression and censorship, disrespect due process and the presumption of innocence as in the Kavanaugh and Judge Moore cases, or ignore the 4th Amendment violations of the FBI & DOJ. Anyone who holds two or more of these positions could be considered an anti-constitutionalist.

::One more thing, I've discovered that whoever is among the first to create a page with a new term entering the public lexicon, Google algorithms favor and can hold a high ranking for years. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 00:26, 13 December 2018 (EST)

:::About the Electoral College and Con Con distinction, it think that's fair, and it would be good to at least make a distinction between the two. We would need to make this clear to readers, though. That said, one could argue that wanting to change the Constitution on something as important as the Electoral College also a rejection of the U.S. as envisioned by the founding fathers. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:46, 13 December 2018 (EST)
::::That's right. That's why I'm thinking two or more. Somebody who wants to abolidh the electoral college and repeal gun rights, then refuses due process and presumption of innocence, and is okay with illegal domestic spying, is an anti-constitutionalist. Throw in support for [[Medicare for All]] and they call themselves a progressive or Democratic Socialist, it's pretty clear they want to tear down the two party system. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 21:34, 13 December 2018 (EST)
::::We shouldn't spell out our criteria on the page before naming names, and if we put everybody on the list who belongs, it would be too long and nobody would read it. We simply need a paragraph or two or three to define in philosophical terms what makes someone opposed to our system of government, and then in the next section spell out a few leaders what positions they've taken to supoort the label, Pelosi, Sanders, Ocasio-Cortez, and other high profile figures we can cite. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 21:40, 13 December 2018 (EST)
:::::The draft below looks great -- and it accurately describes the modern Left. Is "collective responsibility" (#6) the left's counter to states' rights? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 06:26, 14 December 2018 (EST)
::::::On number 6 that's right. I don't recall the exact language on Form 1040 related to the Obamacare individual mandate. I should dig it out and tweak it.
::::::Anyway we got enough to get started. It'll change over time. We should be on the look out for buzzwords and phrases that help define an Anti-Constitutionalist.
::::::As the 2020 election approaches, rather than a long list on the page, we can just create a Category. And the beauty of this idea is, in keeping with liberalism, they don't have to adhere to a strict set of principles, all they have to do is exhibit a few characteristics. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 16:16, 14 December 2018 (EST)

===Pattern===
I googled around and found most definitions of constitutionalist are cut n pastes of each other. Some have lists of principles, but remember, anti-constitutionalists have no principles, they have characteristics. To be an anti-constitutionalist, you don't have to conform or adhere to a list of principles, you just have to resemble a few characteristics.

This came ftom the Urban Dictionary. So all we need to do is tweak the language away from it's original documents or meaning into something other, or it's opposite:

Constitutionalist
1. An individual that shares the views of the political theories of John Locke and the founders of the American republic, that government can and should be legally limited in its powers, and that its authority or legitimacy depends on its observing these limitations.

2. An individual who believes in the basic standards and ideals are to be consistent with an overriding rule of law or ethics.

The 7 principles of a Constitutionalist:

1. Life: For all human beings, from conception to natural death;

2. Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions for the self-governed individual;

3. Family: One husband and one wife with their children as divinely instituted;

4. Property: Each individual's right to own and steward personal property without government burden;

5. Constitution: and Bill of Rights interpreted according to the actual intent of the Founding Fathers;

6. States' Rights: Everything not specifically delegated by the Constitution to the federal government, nor prohibited by the Constitution to the states, is reserved to the states or to the people;

7. American Sovereignty: American government committed to the protection of the borders, trade, and common defense of Americans, and not entangled in foreign alliances.

===Draft 1===
Here's a start. Now remember. we sort of want to use their own langusge, logic, meaning, and reasoning, so when they read it, they're looking in a mirror. Characteristic #2 needs some work. Feel free to change or suggest anything.

Anti-Constitutionalists

Persons who reject the views of the political theories of [[John Locke]] and the founding fathers of the American republic, that government can and should be limited in its powers. Anti-Constitutionalists believe in the supremacy of federal power over individual rights.

2. Persons who believe in the basic standards and ideals are to be consistent with [[progressive]] values and the rule of law.

The 7 characteristics of many anti-constitutionalists:

1. Life: For all human beings, and a [[pro-abortion|right to choice]].

2. Liberty: Freedom of conscience and actions to suppress [[fascist]] ideals;

3. Family: Equal rights to marry anyone among 58 known genders;

4. Diversity: Out of one, many.

5. Constitution: Outdated and written by white male slaveghlolders;

6. Collective Responsibilty: A duty not a choice;

7. Sovereignty: The universal power, authority, and kinship of the human species.

==Can you unblock me please?, I want to improve Dirty War pg==

Got your message loud and clear and want to keep creating pages for Conservapedia but only under 1 account name. Thanks again.--[[User:Raymondo|Raymondo]] ([[User talk:Raymondo|talk]]) 08:56, 13 December 2018 (EST)
:The account you used to write on my talk page is unblocked. You can use that one. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 09:34, 13 December 2018 (EST)

Thanks for unblocking me, greatly appreciated.--[[User:Raymondo|Raymondo]] ([[User talk:Raymondo|talk]]) 07:53, 25 December 2018 (EST)

Hello again, can we change the following page title [[Battles of Mount Kent and Top Malo House]] to [[Battle of Mount Kent and Top Malo House]], remove the "s" from battles, once again thanking you very much and all the best in the new year.--[[User:Raymondo|Raymondo]] ([[User talk:Raymondo|talk]]) 20:17, 25 December 2018 (EST)
:Hello, please request this change at [[User talk:DavidB4]], as I currently do not have move powers. He will move the page for you. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:25, 25 December 2018 (EST)

::Done as requested: [[Battle of Mount Kent and Top Malo House]] --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 01:14, 26 December 2018 (EST)

== Appeal ==

Hi. I noticed I can't edit anything to appeal my block [[Special:Contribs/Edenfaithful|here]]. I'm sorry if you thought my edits were trolling; they weren't. AOC does actually want a government-enforced redistribution of wealth via her universal basic income ideas and other concepts. I won't use this account to do anything other than appeal; it's not meant to be harmful. I want to contribute. [[User:Tempacctformessage|Tempacctformessage]] ([[User talk:Tempacctformessage|talk]]) 13:38, 25 December 2018 (EST)
:I have unblocked your account. In the future, please do not make any edits that could be seen as trolling or parody -- your edits on AOC may have been true, but this is an encyclopedia -- all wording should be encyclopedic. If you're going to add particularly strong language like that, it should at least be cited by a good conservative news source. Otherwise, it's personal commentary, which should stay on your user page or an "essay" page. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 17:37, 25 December 2018 (EST)

== Internet control ==

Hello, 
I have a random question which I was wondering if you might know the answer to. When Obama was in office, he released control of the Internet to the W3C (an international organization). In the opinion of many conservatives including myself, this was a big mistake. I since heard in vague terms that Trump had somehow put a stop to the transfer and retained at least partial control. However, my research attempts have turned up little of value. Do you know if this is something Trump has done, and if so, to what extent? Thank you! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:00, 8 January 2019 (EST)
:I remember noting that there was a bit of a controversy between Ted Cruz and the Commerce Department nominee most in charge of this topic area, but the nominee agreed to "look into it" (whatever that means): [http://thehill.com/policy/technology/359325-trump-pick-confirmed-to-telecommunications-federal-agency 1],[https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/trump-commerce-pick-internet-oversight-reversal-305178 2],[http://thehill.com/policy/technology/370426-trump-commerce-pick-told-lawmakers-he-would-look-at-reversing-obama-move-on 3] I looked into it further, and found these opinion articles ([http://netpolicynews.com/index.php/89-r/997-trump-wants-u-s-to-take-over-internet-governance-like-putin 1],[https://lawreview.unl.edu/Should-the-U.S.-Reclaim-Control-of-the-Internet 2]), which indicate that nothing was done, though I also found [https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/06/05/ntia-internet-policy-noi-jun18.pdf this notice in the Federal Register] where the Commerce Department asked what should be done with the transfer. The government is looking into it, but so far, I have not found anything saying that an official policy change has been enacted.
:I am very interested in this, and I think whatever decision the government makes, it will be relevant to the [[Donald Trump achievements]] series -- so if you find anything else, or if the government makes a decision in the future, please let me know. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 19:27, 8 January 2019 (EST)

::"Looking into it...." I feel so much better now. I thought I probably would have heard something if action had been taken, but figured I'd check with you. I will keep my ears, and if I hear anything, will let you know. I expect it would be relevant to the achievements pages, hopefully in a positive way. Thank you for the information! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:33, 8 January 2019 (EST)
:::I suppose I must admit that one of the main arguments from the left is true...we were not evenly allocating IP addresses. However, if we invented the internet, do we really need to evenly distribute them? Using Network Address Translation, IPv4 has worked quite well. As we began running out of addresses even then, IPv6 was set up in some parts of the world, which gives us MANY more addresses to work with. Should everyone be switched over to IPv6? Yes, probably. However, just giving away all control of the internet to an organization which may as well be a U.N. of sorts can't be a good solution. I also hope the W3C doesn't start setting up new root servers in more...questionable locations. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 19:39, 8 January 2019 (EST)
::::The Left and globalists don't want the U.S. to be dominant, independent/sovereign, or self-sufficient, so that explains why they chose to give away our control of the internet to a "fair" international organization that socialist, Islamic, anti-American, and autocratic governments can control just as much, if not more, than our country. Globalists and the Left would prefer that the U.S. just follows along with the "rules-based international order" rather than take leadership and go its own way. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:36, 8 January 2019 (EST)

== Seraphim 2 ==

What led you to believe this is a sock account? [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 15:48, 23 January 2019 (EST)
:It was created during a vandalism spree, and once or twice, the vandal(s) created two accounts simultaneously and started vandalizing through both of them. This account was created at the same time as another account (can't remember which one) which began continuing the vandalism, appearing to follow the trend. Thus, I blocked the other account and then blocked this one before (I assumed) it started vandalizing. If it doesn't seem suspicious to you, then please unblock it. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:04, 23 January 2019 (EST)
::I would try to avoid doing that in absence of evidence because there have been cases on other wikis when innocent parties have been blocked like this, but I'm not going to undo the block at this time. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 17:23, 23 January 2019 (EST)

== Your wiki work on Trump was alluded to in a web article ==

Your wiki work on Trump was alluded to in a web article. See: http://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2018/11/losing-dignity-still-losing/

It is a pretty well read website as can be seen here: https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/quadrant.org.au

I found out about the citation using this free tool: https://muckrack.com [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:53, 29 January 2019 (EST)

:Great -- it's an indirect allusion, but it works. Have you seen these mentions of my [[Donald Trump achievements]] article? [https://stonecoldtruth.com/despite-continuous-attacks-trump-getting-the-job-done/ One from Roger Stone] and [https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/881978883771445248 another by Bill Mitchell], who Trump has retweeted in the past. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 14:52, 29 January 2019 (EST)
::Thanks for sharing with me those mentions of your article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:47, 29 January 2019 (EST)

== Lou Dobbs ==

Hey, 1990's guy, check out [[Lou Dobbs]]' Conservapedia article: He himself claims he is an "independent populist". Lots of people who do news reporting and support Trump call themselves independent like [[Jedidiah Bila]], [[Alex Jones]] or were Democrat, like [[Harlan Hill]]. We really ought to respect their wishes, don't you think? [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 00:11, 8 February 2019 (EST)
:First off, self-descriptions are meaningless. Dobbs can call himself whatever he wants, but it's his actual positions that matter -- and those positions are, without a doubt, conservative. There are many [[token conservative]]s who align 80-100% with globalist Democrats but still call themselves "conservative" -- but we shouldn't add them to your essay because of what they call themselves.
:Also, you may be confusing political party affiliation with political philosophy -- Dobbs isn't a Republican (maybe he rejoined, IDK), but he left because of the Bush Administration's liberal policies on issues such as immigration. It's his political views that matter, not his political party, and Dobbs's positions are conservative, meaning we can safely call him a conservative. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 00:27, 8 February 2019 (EST)
::I'm a bit embarrassed that I took Lou Dobbs' self-description "independent" to mean non-conservative instead of non-Republican, so not only is what you say correct, but it turns out I've never even heard him deny he's a conservative, here or elsewhere. I don't know if you know this, but coincidentally, I added Lou Dobbs' name to the TCOT list myself in April 2017. But I removed it the same day because of the "independent" label I saw mentioned in his Conservapedia entry soon after I had added his name to the list.

::I'm still concerned, though—Lou Dobbs lives in the liberal stronghold, New York City, and there are cowards that live there who can be vicious if they think they have an easy target.

::Here's something else that's funny; [[Jedidiah Bila]] also called herself an independent (in November 2016) and also lives in New York City. And I delisted her for the very same reasons I used for removing Lou Dobbs' name. I just now checked to see if I could find whether she ever called herself a conservative or just an independent, and, long story short, she labelled herself as conservative in September 2017!

::So, in a way, your diligence has rescued Jedidiah Bila from obscurity in the "conservative world"! But I'm still interested in what you think about Lou Dobbs. [[User:VargasMilan|VargasMilan]] ([[User talk:VargasMilan|talk]]) 02:20, 9 February 2019 (EST)
:::Basically, there are two types of Republicans, National Republicans involved in federal issues, and Independent Republicans - people involved in local and state issues, like school board elections and legislative races. The IRs are moreless divorced from the federal issues, usually because they just aren't interested in what the RNC is doing, occassionally over a policy dispute. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']] 04:07, 9 February 2019 (EST)
::::Dobbs is a TV host -- he has to live in New York City (or nearby) as a result. He has company though, with Trump, Hannity, and others. I think it's obvious Tucker Carlson is a conservative, but he lives in Washington, D.C., where only 4% of the population voted for Trump. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:29, 9 February 2019 (EST)

==ESchlafly==

I get the name "Schlafly" being suspect, but Andy doesn't have a monopoly on it. I say assume good faith for now, unless a senior admin says otherwise. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 20:41, 12 February 2019 (EST)
:Fair enough. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:54, 12 February 2019 (EST)

::Technically, the username is "ESchafly," which is slightly different anyway. In any case, for an apparently good faith editor, perhaps autoblock should be disabled if they are blocked on grounds of their username alone. Anyway, I was also suspicious...no harm done. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 13:51, 13 February 2019 (EST)

==Thank you==
Thank you for tidying my attempt at an external link in the article on the [[British Psychological Society]]. It is appreciated. [[User:Carltonio|Carltonio]] ([[User talk:Carltonio|talk]]) 12:33, 18 March 2019 (EDT)
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:57, 18 March 2019 (EDT)

== Christchurch: terrorism? ==

Hi there! Thanks for your frequent positive contributions to Conservapedia. I'm new here so still trying to learn the ropes.

I feel like the use of "Direct Action" in the leading paragraph of the [[New Zealand mosque shooting]] article, rather than "terrorism", is euphemstic and betrays the principles put forth on [[Conservapedia:How_Conservapedia_Differs_from_Wikipedia]]. Would a similar change be appropriate on the [[September 11, 2001 attacks]] page? {{unsigned|Liberalnutjob}}
:I'm not opposed to labeling it a terrorist attack -- the article uses the term several times, including through some edits I made to the article. I'm not sure the CP article you linked is particularly relevant here since the Wikipedia article does call it a terrorist attack in the intro (just as we do in the body).

:I recommend you message [[User talk:RobSmith]], who is the main author of the article and who inserted the "direct action" link in the intro. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 12:17, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

==Hello!==
:Hey dude! I know you from Wikipedia! I'm here for anti-vandalism work. I am an administrator from [http://deletionpedia.org/en/Special:UserRights/DW Deletionpedia.org]. [[User:DW|DW]] ([[User talk:DW|talk]]) 13:29, 9 April 2019 (EDT)
::Hello -- what is your Wikipedia account name, if you don't mind me asking? --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 13:57, 9 April 2019 (EDT)
== Please create these articles ==

1990'sguy, please create these article and I will tell you why later:

*[[Top 10 achievements of Donald Trump]]

*[[Donald Trump achievements before presidency]]

*[[List of Trump's accomplishments in 2019]]

*[[List of Trump's accomplishments in 2018]]

*[[Donald Trump achievements in his life]]

Also, if this article can be improved, please do it: [[Trump administration]]

I hope this helps.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:52, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

:I will try to create at least some of these when I get time. The two "life achievements" articles seem like good ideas, though the 2018 and 2019 articles would be problematic, particularly with fitting them into my article series which is not based on year. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:36, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

== Unnecessary? ==

My prefix to [[liberal]], describing that kind of person as a United States resident, was included because it's an exclusively U.S. term. In other countries, liberals are known by other names, such as the Labor party in the UK. My edit was not unnecessary, and I would appreciate it if you could please let it stand.

I took a similar issue with the statement that "most individuals are overweight" in every article dealing with obesity. Nationally, this is true, but, globally, it is false. There are more Asians than there are Americans in the world, and 2 billion of them are starving, outnumbering America's obese population 10 to 1. {{unsigned|MacTavish}}

:I oppose changing it back, and there's a big difference between the exact definition of certain terminology and health statistics.

:Labour Party is a political party, and CP's "liberal" page refers to the ideology. I travel to (continental) Europe frequently, and the word "liberal" is increasingly meaning the same thing as in the U.S. while "conservative" increasingly means something similar to the U.S.

:More importantly, the CP article clearly defines what a liberal is, and that's what matters. Every political term like this has multiple meanings, depending on who's doing the explaining. The best solution to the problem of the same words having many different meanings is to clearly define the word and create articles such as the [[classical liberalism]] or [[liberal conservatism]] articles. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:59, 15 April 2019 (EDT)

== Bible ==

I note that you believe that "As unpopular it is to believe this in our present culture, I know that the Bible contains absolutely no errors or mistakes". Last night I was listening to an interesting talk on the radio about [https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A3-11&version=ESV John 8:3-11], and this has led me to pondering this morning [https://www.openbible.info/topics/stoning_to_death what the Bible has to say about stoning people to death]. My question is how can anyone, in light of this, believe that the Bible is always to be taken literally? I accept that the Bible contains invaluable spiritual truths but I also consider that it is the creation of fallible human beings. I believe that such barbarous practices as stoning someone to death, for blasphemy, sexual misconduct, and breaking the Sabbath, is a reflection of the values of an early pastoral society and not God's word. To be honest with you I find ''any'' type of dogmatic belief deeply disturbing. I note that the Conservapedia article takes a moderate line on the [[Bible]]: "The Bible is the most logical, insightful and influential collection of books and letters ever written", and doesn't claim that it's the word of God.

Because of our recent "conversations" you seemed to be the most obvious person to ask this question. [[User:Timber|Timber]] ([[User talk:Timber|talk]]) 13:15, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Hi 1990'sguy,

I don't think we need flashy photos of anti-Christian celebrities, which promote their lifestyles to our kids. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] ([[User talk:DouglasA|talk]]) 13:54, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Miley Cyrus

2019-04-19T17:51:19Z

DouglasA: Reverted edits by 1990'sguy (talk) to last revision by DouglasA

'''Miley Ray Cyrus''' (born Destiny Hope Cyrus<ref>[http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-miley-ray-cyrus,1,5881382.story Miley Cyrus now Miley Ray Cyrus], [[Kester Alleyne-Morris ]], ''[[Chicago Tribune]]'', January 30, 2008</ref> November 23, 1992) is a [[singer]] and [[actress]] who stars in the Disney TV show ''[[Hannah Montana]]''. She is now best known for peddling anti-Christian and sexually explicit material to children.

Miley has become very popular and has had phenomenal financial success. Her net worth is estimated in the millions, and she is currently listed on Forbes' list of the 20 highest-paid celebrities under age 25.<ref>http://www.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/bal-to.worth08jan08,0,5859326.story</ref>

During an interview with [[Barbara Walters]], Miley said that "family and faith are more important than materialism and partying." Miley also explained that many young stars turn to [[drugs]] or [[alcohol]] because they're trusting the wrong people and losing touch with [[God]].<ref>[http://www.christianpost.com/article/20080228/31357_'Hannah_Montana'_Star_Says_Faith_Keeps_Her_Grounded.htm 'Hannah Montana' Star Says Faith Keeps Her Grounded], [[Jennifer Riley]], ''[[Christian Post]]'', February 28, 2008</ref>

==Controversy==
Miley was photographed by Annie Leibovitz for the April 2008 edition of Vanity Fair magazine in poses that turned out to be more revealing than she had intended, including one where she was draped in a sheet, that she later called "embarrassing" and publicly apologized for.<ref>https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Story?id=4736358&page=1</ref>

<blockquote>
''"I took part in a photo shoot that was supposed to be 'artistic' and now, seeing the photographs, I feel so embarrassed," she said in a statement. "I never intended for any of this to happen and I apologize to my fans who I care so deeply about." - Miley Cyrus''
</blockquote>

However, this was not her only indecent exposure. Later on, she produced an even more controversial music video to go with her new song, "Wrecking Ball." It was not controversial as much because of the suggestive undertones of the song, but rather the video itself. For part of this video, she was shown naked. After it was released, she tried to defend it by saying that this was intended to show how distraught she was.<ref>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2418231/Miley-Cyrus-defends-controversial-video-Wrecking-Ball--reveals-hidden-message.html</ref> Later, she simply called the production "her worst nightmare" and said that she will "never live it down."<ref>http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/music-videos/miley-cyrus-claims-the-wrecking-ball-video-is-her-biggest-regret/news-story/983ad0217a4cbd18d64bab19a00d8b66</ref>

Miley is an opponent of the [[Second Amendment]], having performed at the anti-Second Amendment "[[March for Our Lives]]" on March 24, 2018, in Washington, D.C.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJLy0Ows4KI Miley Cyrus Performs "Climb" (March For Our Lives)] at YouTube</ref>

==Family==
Miley's father is country music star Billy Ray Cyrus. Her mother is Leticia "Tish" Cyrus.

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://music.aol.com/artist/miley-cyrus/biography/466381 Miley Cyrus Biography]
*[http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2008/apr/30/photography.women Germaine Greer on the controversial Annie Leibovitz portrait of Miley Cyrus]

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Ubuntu Christian Edition

2019-04-19T17:49:48Z

DouglasA:

[[Image:Gnomesword large.png|right|thumb|250px|Screenshot of Ubuntu Christian Edition]]
'''Ubuntu Christian Edition''' is a distribution of the [[Linux]] [[operating system]] which was been especially designed for [[Christian]]s. It is [[open source]] and offered free of charge for both private and commercial purposes, like other [[Linux]] systems.<ref>http://www.ubuntuce.com</ref>. Like standard Ubuntu, it is a popular distribution for running web servers.

==Details==
Ubuntu Christian Edition is based on the standard Ubuntu distribution version 12.04.1 (a.k.a. Precise Pangolin). It has been modified somewhat from that release, and now contains extra Christian software as well as a few additional tools to make transitioning to Ubuntu easier for those who are new to it. The graphical changes are minor and are only intended to tailor the project to Christians.<ref>http://www.ubuntuce.com/faq.htm</ref>

===Features===
*Ubuntu Christian Edition is available in both 32-bit and 64-bit
*Includes standard programs, including spreadsheet and word processors
*Includes what the project describes as "the best" [[christian]] [[software]] available, including [[Xiphos]], [[OpenLP]], and [[Quelea]].
*Parental Controls from [[Dansguardian]] which uses a [[firewall]] style filter
*Supports Wine<ref>http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubuntu-Christian-Edition-12-04-Is-Based-on-Ubuntu-12-04-1-290743.shtml</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [http://www.ubuntuce.com/ Ubuntu CE Home]
* [http://www.ubuntuce.com/download.htm Download page for Ubuntu CE (current version)]
* [http://verified.archnet.us/UbuntuCE/uce-12.04-desktop-i386.iso Download Ubuntu CE (version 12.04) 32-bit - ARCHNET]
* [http://verified.archnet.us/UbuntuCE/uce-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso Download Ubuntu CE (version 12.04) 64-bit - ARCHNET]

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Miley Cyrus

2019-04-19T17:45:45Z

DouglasA: wiki is not for promoting anti-God content

Lady Gaga

2019-04-19T17:39:16Z

DouglasA: propaganda is not philanthropy. wiki is not for promoting anti-God content

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'''Lady Gaga''' (real name: Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta) is an American pop singer, songwriter. She was born and raised in [[New York City]]. Lady Gaga, aside from her mediocre musical career is also known for her far-left political activism, particularly with promoting illegal [[Immigration]], and the [[homosexual agenda]]. Her controversial, outrageous and attention-seeking methods of far-Left activism have drawn the fury of various organizations, most notably in 2010, when her dress of raw beef invoked the wrath of [[PETA]]. She is a supporter of [[Hillary Clinton]] and showed up at Clinton's final campaign rally prior to the [[2016 United States presidential election]] wearing a black jacket with red stripes that resembled the uniforms of the [[Nazi Party|Nazis]]' [[Gestapo]].<ref>[http://patriotupdate.com/lady-gaga-pays-tribute-nazis-hillary-rally/ Lady Gaga Pays Tribute to Nazis at Hillary Rally] at Patriot Update</ref><ref>[https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2016/11/08/clinton-rally-outrage-lady-gaga-shouts-black-lives-matter-wearing-custom-likened-nazi-uniform/ Lady Gaga Slammed for Nazi-Like Uniform at Clinton Rally] at Breitbart.com </ref> It was one that pedophile [[Michael Jackson]] had previously worn while visiting [[President]] [[George H. W. Bush]] at the [[White House]].<ref>https://www.instyle.com/news/lady-gaga-michael-jackson-jacket-clinton-rally</ref> Lady Gaga, who frequently uses curse words and other vulgar language while wearing sexually suggestive clothing, has claimed she is a better representation of a "Christian" than [[Mike Pence]], a practicing evangelical Christian.<ref>Multiple references:
*Kruger, Michael J. (January 22, 2019). [https://www.michaeljkruger.com/lady-gaga-christian-theologian/ Lady Gaga, Christian Theologian]. ''Canon Fodder''. Retrieved February 19, 2019.
*Caruso, Justin (January 21, 2019). [https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/01/21/lady-gaga-mike-pence-the-worst-representation-of-what-it-means-to-be-a-christian/ Lady Gaga: Mike Pence ‘The Worst Representation of What It Means to Be a Christian’]. ''Breitbart News''. Retrieved February 19, 2019.
*McCarthy, Tyler (January 21, 2019). [https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/lady-gaga-calls-mike-pence-the-worst-christian-during-concert-over-wifes-job-at-anti-lgbtq-school Lady Gaga calls Mike Pence the 'worst Christian' during concert over wife's job at anti-LGBTQ school]. ''Fox News''. Retrieved February 19, 2019.</ref>

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Daniel (Translated)

2019-04-19T17:31:16Z

DouglasA: beginning Daniel

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==Chapter 1==

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|In the third year of the reign of Jehoiakim king of Judah came Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon unto Jerusalem, and besieged it.
|During Jehoiakim's third year ruling as king of Judah, Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, attacked Jerusalem.
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|And the Lord gave Jehoiakim king of Judah into his hand, with part of the vessels of the house of God: which he carried into the land of Shinar to the house of his god; and he brought the vessels into the treasure house of his god.
|The Lord gave him Jehoiakim, the king of Judah. He also gave him containers from his house, which Nebuchadnezzar carried to his idol's shrine in Shinar. He put the containers in his idol's treasury.
|Clarify the difference between God and 'gods' which are actually just idols.
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|And the king spake unto Ashpenaz the master of his eunuchs, that he should bring certain of the children of Israel, and of the king's seed, and of the princes;
|The king told his eunuch master, Ashpenaz, to bring particular Israelites, including the king's children and princes.
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|Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
|These children were perfect: smart, clever, adept in science. They were capable of standing in the king's palace and could be taught the Chaldean language and culture.
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|And the king appointed them a daily provision of the king's meat, and of the wine which he drank: so nourishing them three years, that at the end thereof they might stand before the king.
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|Now among these were of the children of Judah, Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah:
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|Unto whom the prince of the eunuchs gave names: for he gave unto Daniel the name of Belteshazzar; and to Hananiah, of Shadrach; and to Mishael, of Meshach; and to Azariah, of Abed-nego.
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|Now God had brought Daniel into favour and tender love with the prince of the eunuchs.
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|And the prince of the eunuchs said unto Daniel, I fear my lord the king, who hath appointed your meat and your drink: for why should he see your faces worse liking than the children which are of your sort? then shall ye make me endanger my head to the king.
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|Then said Daniel to Melzar, whom the prince of the eunuchs had set over Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah,
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|Prove thy servants, I beseech thee, ten days; and let them give us pulse to eat, and water to drink.
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|Then let our countenances be looked upon before thee, and the countenance of the children that eat of the portion of the king's meat: and as thou seest, deal with thy servants.
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|So he consented to them in this matter, and proved them ten days.
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|And at the end of ten days their countenances appeared fairer and fatter in flesh than all the children which did eat the portion of the king's meat.
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|Thus Melzar took away the portion of their meat, and the wine that they should drink; and gave them pulse.
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|As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.
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|Now at the end of the days that the king had said he should bring them in, then the prince of the eunuchs brought them in before Nebuchadnezzar.
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|And the king communed with them; and among them all was found none like Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah: therefore stood they before the king.
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|And in all matters of wisdom and understanding, that the king inquired of them, he found them ten times better than all the magicians and astrologers that were in all his realm.
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|And Daniel continued even unto the first year of king Cyrus.
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|And in the second year of the reign of Nebuchadnezzar Nebuchadnezzar dreamed dreams, wherewith his spirit was troubled, and his sleep brake from him.
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|Then the king commanded to call the magicians, and the astrologers, and the sorcerers, and the Chaldeans, for to shew the king his dreams. So they came and stood before the king.
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|And the king said unto them, I have dreamed a dream, and my spirit was troubled to know the dream.
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|Then spake the Chaldeans to the king in Syriack, O king, live for ever: tell thy servants the dream, and we will shew the interpretation.
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|The king answered and said to the Chaldeans, The thing is gone from me: if ye will not make known unto me the dream, with the interpretation thereof, ye shall be cut in pieces, and your houses shall be made a dunghill.
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|But if ye shew the dream, and the interpretation thereof, ye shall receive of me gifts and rewards and great honour: therefore shew me the dream, and the interpretation thereof.
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|But if ye will not make known unto me the dream, there is but one decree for you: for ye have prepared lying and corrupt words to speak before me, till the time be changed: therefore tell me the dream, and I shall know that ye can shew me the interpretation thereof.
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|The Chaldeans answered before the king, and said, There is not a man upon the earth that can shew the king's matter: therefore there is no king, lord, nor ruler, that asked such things at any magician, or astrologer, or Chaldean.
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|And it is a rare thing that the king requireth, and there is none other that can shew it before the king, except the gods, whose dwelling is not with flesh.
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|For this cause the king was angry and very furious, and commanded to destroy all the wise men of Babylon.
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|And the decree went forth that the wise men should be slain; and they sought Daniel and his fellows to be slain.
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|Then Daniel answered with counsel and wisdom to Arioch the captain of the king's guard, which was gone forth to slay the wise men of Babylon:
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|He answered and said to Arioch the king's captain, Why is the decree so hasty from the king? Then Arioch made the thing known to Daniel.
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|Then Daniel went in, and desired of the king that he would give him time, and that he would shew the king the interpretation.
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|That they would desire mercies of the God of heaven concerning this secret; that Daniel and his fellows should not perish with the rest of the wise men of Babylon.
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|Then was the secret revealed unto Daniel in a night vision. Then Daniel blessed the God of heaven.
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|Daniel answered and said, Blessed be the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are his:
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|And he changeth the times and the seasons: he removeth kings, and setteth up kings: he giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know understanding:
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|He revealeth the deep and secret things: he knoweth what is in the darkness, and the light dwelleth with him.
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|I thank thee, and praise thee, O thou God of my fathers, who hast given me wisdom and might, and hast made known unto me now what we desired of thee: for thou hast now made known unto us the king's matter.
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|Therefore Daniel went in unto Arioch, whom the king had ordained to destroy the wise men of Babylon: he went and said thus unto him; Destroy not the wise men of Babylon: bring me in before the king, and I will shew unto the king the interpretation.
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|Then Arioch brought in Daniel before the king in haste and said thus unto him, I have found a man of the captives of Judah, that will make known unto the king the interpretation.
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|The king answered and said to Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, Art thou able to make known unto me the dream which I have seen, and the interpretation thereof?
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|Daniel answered in the presence of the king, and said, The secret which the king hath demanded cannot the wise men, the astrologers, the magicians, the soothsayers, shew unto the king;
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|But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the latter days. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;
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|As for thee, O king, thy thoughts came into thy mind upon thy bed, what should come to pass hereafter: and he that revealeth secrets maketh known to thee what shall come to pass.
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|But as for me, this secret is not revealed to me for any wisdom that I have more than any living, but for their sakes that shall make known the interpretation to the king, and that thou mightest know the thoughts of thy heart.
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|Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible.
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|This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass,
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|His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay.
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|Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces.
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|Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.
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|This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king.
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|Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory.
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|And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold.
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|And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.
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|And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
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|And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
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|And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken.
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|And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.
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|And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.
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|Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.
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|Then the king Nebuchadnezzar fell upon his face, and worshipped Daniel, and commanded that they should offer an oblation and sweet odours unto him.
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|The king answered unto Daniel, and said, Of a truth it is, that your God is a God of gods, and a Lord of kings, and a revealer of secrets, seeing thou couldest reveal this secret.
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|Then the king made Daniel a great man, and gave him many great gifts, and made him ruler over the whole province of Babylon, and chief of the governors over all the wise men of Babylon.
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|Then Daniel requested of the king, and he set Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, over the affairs of the province of Babylon: but Daniel sat in the gate of the king.
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==Chapter 3==

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|Nebuchadnezzar the king made an image of gold, whose height was threescore cubits, and the breadth thereof six cubits: he set it up in the plain of Dura, in the province of Babylon.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar the king sent to gather together the princes, the governors, and the captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellers, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, to come to the dedication of the image which Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
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|Then the princes, the governors, and captains, the judges, the treasurers, the counsellers, the sheriffs, and all the rulers of the provinces, were gathered together unto the dedication of the image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up; and they stood before the image that Nebuchadnezzar had set up.
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|Then an herald cried aloud, To you it is commanded, O people, nations, and languages,
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|That at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king hath set up:
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|And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth shall the same hour be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
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|Therefore at that time, when all the people heard the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and all kinds of musick, all the people, the nations, and the languages, fell down and worshipped the golden image that Nebuchadnezzar the king had set up.
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|Wherefore at that time certain Chaldeans came near, and accused the Jews.
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|They spake and said to the king Nebuchadnezzar, O king, live for ever.
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|Thou, O king, hast made a decree, that every man that shall hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, shall fall down and worship the golden image:
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|And whoso falleth not down and worshippeth, that he should be cast into the midst of a burning fiery furnace.
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|There are certain Jews whom thou hast set over the affairs of the province of Babylon, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego; these men, O king, have not regarded thee: they serve not thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar in his rage and fury commanded to bring Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego. Then they brought these men before the king.
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|Nebuchadnezzar spake and said unto them, Is it true, O Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, do not ye serve my gods, nor worship the golden image which I have set up?
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|Now if ye be ready that at what time ye hear the sound of the cornet, flute, harp, sackbut, psaltery, and dulcimer, and all kinds of musick, ye fall down and worship the image which I have made; well: but if ye worship not, ye shall be cast the same hour into the midst of a burning fiery furnace; and who is that God that shall deliver you out of my hands?
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|Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, answered and said to the king, O Nebuchadnezzar, we are not careful to answer thee in this matter.
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|If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
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|But if not, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
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|Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated.
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|And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace.
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|Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
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|Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of the fire slew those men that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego.
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|And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellers, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king.
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|He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar came near to the mouth of the burning fiery furnace, and spake, and said, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, ye servants of the most high God, come forth, and come hither. Then Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, came forth of the midst of the fire.
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|And the princes, governors, and captains, and the king's counsellers, being gathered together, saw these men, upon whose bodies the fire had no power, nor was an hair of their head singed, neither were their coats changed, nor the smell of fire had passed on them.
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|Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
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|Therefore I make a decree, That every people, nation, and language, which speak any thing amiss against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, shall be cut in pieces, and their houses shall be made a dunghill: because there is no other God that can deliver after this sort.
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|Then the king promoted Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego, in the province of Babylon.
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==Chapter 4==

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|Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
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|I thought it good to shew the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me.
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|How great are his signs! and how mighty are his wonders! his kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and his dominion is from generation to generation.
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|I Nebuchadnezzar was at rest in mine house, and flourishing in my palace:
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|I saw a dream which made me afraid, and the thoughts upon my bed and the visions of my head troubled me.
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|Therefore made I a decree to bring in all the wise men of Babylon before me, that they might make known unto me the interpretation of the dream.
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|Then came in the magicians, the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers: and I told the dream before them; but they did not make known unto me the interpretation thereof.
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|But at the last Daniel came in before me, whose name was Belteshazzar, according to the name of my god, and in whom is the spirit of the holy gods: and before him I told the dream, saying,
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|O Belteshazzar, master of the magicians, because I know that the spirit of the holy gods is in thee, and no secret troubleth thee, tell me the visions of my dream that I have seen, and the interpretation thereof.
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|Thus were the visions of mine head in my bed; I saw, and behold a tree in the midst of the earth, and the height thereof was great.
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|The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the end of all the earth:
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|The leaves thereof were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all: the beasts of the field had shadow under it, and the fowls of the heaven dwelt in the boughs thereof, and all flesh was fed of it.
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|I saw in the visions of my head upon my bed, and, behold, a watcher and an holy one came down from heaven;
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|He cried aloud, and said thus, Hew down the tree, and cut off his branches, shake off his leaves, and scatter his fruit: let the beasts get away from under it, and the fowls from his branches:
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|Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth:
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|Let his heart be changed from man's, and let a beast's heart be given unto him; and let seven times pass over him.
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|This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.
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|This dream I king Nebuchadnezzar have seen. Now thou, O Belteshazzar, declare the interpretation thereof, forasmuch as all the wise men of my kingdom are not able to make known unto me the interpretation: but thou art able; for the spirit of the holy gods is in thee.
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|Then Daniel, whose name was Belteshazzar, was astonied for one hour, and his thoughts troubled him. The king spake, and said, Belteshazzar, let not the dream, or the interpretation thereof, trouble thee. Belteshazzar answered and said, My lord, the dream be to them that hate thee, and the interpretation thereof to thine enemies.
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|The tree that thou sawest, which grew, and was strong, whose height reached unto the heaven, and the sight thereof to all the earth;
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|Whose leaves were fair, and the fruit thereof much, and in it was meat for all; under which the beasts of the field dwelt, and upon whose branches the fowls of the heaven had their habitation:
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|It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth.
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|And whereas the king saw a watcher and an holy one coming down from heaven, and saying, Hew the tree down, and destroy it; yet leave the stump of the roots thereof in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts of the field, till seven times pass over him;
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|This is the interpretation, O king, and this is the decree of the most High, which is come upon my lord the king:
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|That they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field, and they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and they shall wet thee with the dew of heaven, and seven times shall pass over thee, till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
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|And whereas they commanded to leave the stump of the tree roots; thy kingdom shall be sure unto thee, after that thou shalt have known that the heavens do rule.
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|Wherefore, O king, let my counsel be acceptable unto thee, and break off thy sins by righteousness, and thine iniquities by shewing mercy to the poor; if it may be a lengthening of thy tranquillity.
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|All this came upon the king Nebuchadnezzar.
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|At the end of twelve months he walked in the palace of the kingdom of Babylon.
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|The king spake, and said, Is not this great Babylon, that I have built for the house of the kingdom by the might of my power, and for the honour of my majesty?
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|While the word was in the king's mouth, there fell a voice from heaven, saying, O king Nebuchadnezzar, to thee it is spoken; The kingdom is departed from thee.
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|And they shall drive thee from men, and thy dwelling shall be with the beasts of the field: they shall make thee to eat grass as oxen, and seven times shall pass over thee, until thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.
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|The same hour was the thing fulfilled upon Nebuchadnezzar: and he was driven from men, and did eat grass as oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven, till his hairs were grown like eagles' feathers, and his nails like birds' claws.
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|And at the end of the days I Nebuchadnezzar lifted up mine eyes unto heaven, and mine understanding returned unto me, and I blessed the most High, and I praised and honoured him that liveth for ever, whose dominion is an everlasting dominion, and his kingdom is from generation to generation:
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|And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and he doeth according to his will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
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|At the same time my reason returned unto me; and for the glory of my kingdom, mine honour and brightness returned unto me; and my counsellers and my lords sought unto me; and I was established in my kingdom, and excellent majesty was added unto me.
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|Now I Nebuchadnezzar praise and extol and honour the King of heaven, all whose works are truth, and his ways judgment: and those that walk in pride he is able to abase.
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==Chapter 5==

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|Belshazzar the king made a great feast to a thousand of his lords, and drank wine before the thousand.
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|Belshazzar, whiles he tasted the wine, commanded to bring the golden and silver vessels which his father Nebuchadnezzar had taken out of the temple which was in Jerusalem; that the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, might drink therein.
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|Then they brought the golden vessels that were taken out of the temple of the house of God which was at Jerusalem; and the king, and his princes, his wives, and his concubines, drank in them.
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|They drank wine, and praised the gods of gold, and of silver, of brass, of iron, of wood, and of stone.
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|In the same hour came forth fingers of a man's hand, and wrote over against the candlestick upon the plaister of the wall of the king's palace: and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.
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|Then the king's countenance was changed, and his thoughts troubled him, so that the joints of his loins were loosed, and his knees smote one against another.
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|The king cried aloud to bring in the astrologers, the Chaldeans, and the soothsayers. And the king spake, and said to the wise men of Babylon, Whosoever shall read this writing, and shew me the interpretation thereof, shall be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about his neck, and shall be the third ruler in the kingdom.
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|Then came in all the king's wise men: but they could not read the writing, nor make known to the king the interpretation thereof.
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|Then was king Belshazzar greatly troubled, and his countenance was changed in him, and his lords were astonied.
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|Now the queen, by reason of the words of the king and his lords, came into the banquet house: and the queen spake and said, O king, live for ever: let not thy thoughts trouble thee, nor let thy countenance be changed:
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|There is a man in thy kingdom, in whom is the spirit of the holy gods; and in the days of thy father light and understanding and wisdom, like the wisdom of the gods, was found in him; whom the king Nebuchadnezzar thy father, the king, I say, thy father, made master of the magicians, astrologers, Chaldeans, and soothsayers;
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|Forasmuch as an excellent spirit, and knowledge, and understanding, interpreting of dreams, and shewing of hard sentences, and dissolving of doubts, were found in the same Daniel, whom the king named Belteshazzar: now let Daniel be called, and he will shew the interpretation.
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|Then was Daniel brought in before the king. And the king spake and said unto Daniel, Art thou that Daniel, which art of the children of the captivity of Judah, whom the king my father brought out of Jewry?
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|I have even heard of thee, that the spirit of the gods is in thee, and that light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee.
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|And now the wise men, the astrologers, have been brought in before me, that they should read this writing, and make known unto me the interpretation thereof: but they could not shew the interpretation of the thing:
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|And I have heard of thee, that thou canst make interpretations, and dissolve doubts: now if thou canst read the writing, and make known to me the interpretation thereof, thou shalt be clothed with scarlet, and have a chain of gold about thy neck, and shalt be the third ruler in the kingdom.
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|Then Daniel answered and said before the king, Let thy gifts be to thyself, and give thy rewards to another; yet I will read the writing unto the king, and make known to him the interpretation.
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|O thou king, the most high God gave Nebuchadnezzar thy father a kingdom, and majesty, and glory, and honour:
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|And for the majesty that he gave him, all people, nations, and languages, trembled and feared before him: whom he would he slew; and whom he would he kept alive; and whom he would he set up; and whom he would he put down.
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|But when his heart was lifted up, and his mind hardened in pride, he was deposed from his kingly throne, and they took his glory from him:
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|And he was driven from the sons of men; and his heart was made like the beasts, and his dwelling was with the wild asses: they fed him with grass like oxen, and his body was wet with the dew of heaven; till he knew that the most high God ruled in the kingdom of men, and that he appointeth over it whomsoever he will.
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|And thou his son, O Belshazzar, hast not humbled thine heart, though thou knewest all this;
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|But hast lifted up thyself against the LORD of heaven; and they have brought the vessels of his house before thee, and thou, and thy lords, thy wives, and thy concubines, have drunk wine in them; and thou hast praised the gods of silver, and gold, of brass, iron, wood, and stone, which see not, nor hear, nor know: and the God in whose hand thy breath is, and whose are all thy ways, hast thou not glorified:
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|Then was the part of the hand sent from him; and this writing was written.
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|And this is the writing that was written, MENE, MENE, TEKEL, UPHARSIN.
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|This is the interpretation of the thing: MENE; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.
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|TEKEL; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
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|PERES; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.
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|Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom.
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|In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.
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|And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.
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==Chapter 6==

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|It pleased Darius to set over the kingdom an hundred and twenty princes, which should be over the whole kingdom;
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|And over these three presidents; of whom Daniel was first: that the princes might give accounts unto them, and the king should have no damage.
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|Then this Daniel was preferred above the presidents and princes, because an excellent spirit was in him; and the king thought to set him over the whole realm.
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|Then the presidents and princes sought to find occasion against Daniel concerning the kingdom; but they could find none occasion nor fault; forasmuch as he was faithful, neither was there any error or fault found in him.
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|Then said these men, We shall not find any occasion against this Daniel, except we find it against him concerning the law of his God.
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|Then these presidents and princes assembled together to the king, and said thus unto him, King Darius, live for ever.
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|All the presidents of the kingdom, the governors, and the princes, the counsellers, and the captains, have consulted together to establish a royal statute, and to make a firm decree, that whosoever shall ask a petition of any God or man for thirty days, save of thee, O king, he shall be cast into the den of lions.
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|Now, O king, establish the decree, and sign the writing, that it be not changed, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.
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|Wherefore king Darius signed the writing and the decree.
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|Now when Daniel knew that the writing was signed, he went into his house; and his windows being open in his chamber toward Jerusalem, he kneeled upon his knees three times a day, and prayed, and gave thanks before his God, as he did aforetime.
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|Then these men assembled, and found Daniel praying and making supplication before his God.
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|Then they came near, and spake before the king concerning the king's decree; Hast thou not signed a decree, that every man that shall ask a petition of any God or man within thirty days, save of thee, O king, shall be cast into the den of lions? The king answered and said, The thing is true, according to the law of the Medes and Persians, which altereth not.
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|Then answered they and said before the king, That Daniel, which is of the children of the captivity of Judah, regardeth not thee, O king, nor the decree that thou hast signed, but maketh his petition three times a day.
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|Then the king, when he heard these words, was sore displeased with himself, and set his heart on Daniel to deliver him: and he laboured till the going down of the sun to deliver him.
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|Then these men assembled unto the king, and said unto the king, Know, O king, that the law of the Medes and Persians is, That no decree nor statute which the king establisheth may be changed.
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|Then the king commanded, and they brought Daniel, and cast him into the den of lions. Now the king spake and said unto Daniel, Thy God whom thou servest continually, he will deliver thee.
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|And a stone was brought and laid upon the mouth of the den; and the king sealed it with his own signet, and with the signet of his lords; that the purpose might not be changed concerning Daniel.
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|Then the king went to his palace, and passed the night fasting: neither were instruments of musick brought before him: and his sleep went from him.
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|Then the king arose very early in the morning, and went in haste unto the den of lions.
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|And when he came to the den, he cried with a lamentable voice unto Daniel: and the king spake and said to Daniel, O Daniel, servant of the living God, is thy God, whom thou servest continually, able to deliver thee from the lions?
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|Then said Daniel unto the king, O king, live for ever.
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|My God hath sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouths, that they have not hurt me: forasmuch as before him innocency was found in me; and also before thee, O king, have I done no hurt.
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|Then was the king exceeding glad for him, and commanded that they should take Daniel up out of the den. So Daniel was taken up out of the den, and no manner of hurt was found upon him, because he believed in his God.
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|And the king commanded, and they brought those men which had accused Daniel, and they cast them into the den of lions, them, their children, and their wives; and the lions had the mastery of them, and brake all their bones in pieces or ever they came at the bottom of the den.
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|Then king Darius wrote unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you.
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|I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom men tremble and fear before the God of Daniel: for he is the living God, and stedfast for ever, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed, and his dominion shall be even unto the end.
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|He delivereth and rescueth, and he worketh signs and wonders in heaven and in earth, who hath delivered Daniel from the power of the lions.
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|So this Daniel prospered in the reign of Darius, and in the reign of Cyrus the Persian.
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==Chapter 7==

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|In the first year of Belshazzar king of Babylon Daniel had a dream and visions of his head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream, and told the sum of the matters.
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|Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.
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|And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
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|The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.
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|And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
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|After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
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|After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
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|I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
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|I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.
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|A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.
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|I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
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|As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
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|I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
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|And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
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|I Daniel was grieved in my spirit in the midst of my body, and the visions of my head troubled me.
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|I came near unto one of them that stood by, and asked him the truth of all this. So he told me, and made me know the interpretation of the things.
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|These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
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|But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.
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|Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;
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|And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell; even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows.
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|I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them;
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|Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
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|Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
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|And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
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|And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
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|But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.
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|And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.
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|Hitherto is the end of the matter. As for me Daniel, my cogitations much troubled me, and my countenance changed in me: but I kept the matter in my heart.
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==Chapter 8==

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|In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
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|And I saw in a vision; and it came to pass, when I saw, that I was at Shushan in the palace, which is in the province of Elam; and I saw in a vision, and I was by the river of Ulai.
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|Then I lifted up mine eyes, and saw, and, behold, there stood before the river a ram which had two horns: and the two horns were high; but one was higher than the other, and the higher came up last.
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|I saw the ram pushing westward, and northward, and southward; so that no beasts might stand before him, neither was there any that could deliver out of his hand; but he did according to his will, and became great.
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|And as I was considering, behold, an he goat came from the west on the face of the whole earth, and touched not the ground: and the goat had a notable horn between his eyes.
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|And he came to the ram that had two horns, which I had there seen standing before the river, and ran unto him in the fury of his power.
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|And I saw him come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand.
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|Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.
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|And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.
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|And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
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|Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
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|And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
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|Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
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|And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
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|And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
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|And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
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|So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
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|Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
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|And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
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|The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
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|And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.
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|Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
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|And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
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|And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
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|And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
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|And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
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|And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.
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==Chapter 9==

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|In the first year of Darius the son of Ahasuerus, of the seed of the Medes, which was made king over the realm of the Chaldeans;
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|In the first year of his reign I Daniel understood by books the number of the years, whereof the word of the LORD came to Jeremiah the prophet, that he would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem.
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|And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplication, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
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|And I prayed unto the LORD my God, and made my confession, and said, O Lord, the great and dreadful God, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments;
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|We have sinned, and have committed iniquity, and have done wickedly, and have rebelled, even by departing from thy precepts and from thy judgments:
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|Neither have we hearkened unto thy servants the prophets, which spake in thy name to our kings, our princes, and our fathers, and to all the people of the land.
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|O Lord, righteousness belongeth unto thee, but unto us confusion of faces, as at this day; to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and unto all Israel, that are near, and that are far off, through all the countries whither thou hast driven them, because of their trespass that they have trespassed against thee.
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|O Lord, to us belongeth confusion of face, to our kings, to our princes, and to our fathers, because we have sinned against thee.
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|To the Lord our God belong mercies and forgivenesses, though we have rebelled against him;
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|Neither have we obeyed the voice of the LORD our God, to walk in his laws, which he set before us by his servants the prophets.
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|Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.
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|And he hath confirmed his words, which he spake against us, and against our judges that judged us, by bringing upon us a great evil: for under the whole heaven hath not been done as hath been done upon Jerusalem.
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|As it is written in the law of Moses, all this evil is come upon us: yet made we not our prayer before the LORD our God, that we might turn from our iniquities, and understand thy truth.
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|Therefore hath the LORD watched upon the evil, and brought it upon us: for the LORD our God is righteous in all his works which he doeth: for we obeyed not his voice.
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|And now, O Lord our God, that hast brought thy people forth out of the land of Egypt with a mighty hand, and hast gotten thee renown, as at this day; we have sinned, we have done wickedly.
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|O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, thy holy mountain: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers, Jerusalem and thy people are become a reproach to all that are about us.
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|Now therefore, O our God, hear the prayer of thy servant, and his supplications, and cause thy face to shine upon thy sanctuary that is desolate, for the Lord's sake.
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|O my God, incline thine ear, and hear; open thine eyes, and behold our desolations, and the city which is called by thy name: for we do not present our supplications before thee for our righteousnesses, but for thy great mercies.
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|O Lord, hear; O Lord, forgive; O Lord, hearken and do; defer not, for thine own sake, O my God: for thy city and thy people are called by thy name.
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|And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God;
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|Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
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|And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
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|At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
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|Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
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|Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
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|And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
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|And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
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==Chapter 10==

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|In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a thing was revealed unto Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the thing was true, but the time appointed was long: and he understood the thing, and had understanding of the vision.
|In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia a story was revealed to Daniel, whose name was called Belteshazzar; and the story was true, involving immense conflict: and he understood the story, and had understanding of the vision.
|translating "דָּבָר" as "thing" is not optimal; the [[ESV]] translates it as "word", and the [[NASB]] as "message". Closer to the original meaning in this context: translate "דָּבָר" as "story", not as "word" or "message".
 The third year of King Cyrus of Persia was 536 BC.
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|In those days I Daniel was mourning three full weeks.
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|I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
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|And in the four and twentieth day of the first month, as I was by the side of the great river, which is Hiddekel;
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|Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
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|His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.
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|And I Daniel alone saw the vision: for the men that were with me saw not the vision; but a great quaking fell upon them, so that they fled to hide themselves.
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|Therefore I was left alone, and saw this great vision, and there remained no strength in me: for my comeliness was turned in me into corruption, and I retained no strength.
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|Yet heard I the voice of his words: and when I heard the voice of his words, then was I in a deep sleep on my face, and my face toward the ground.
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|And, behold, an hand touched me, which set me upon my knees and upon the palms of my hands.
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|And he said unto me, O Daniel, a man greatly beloved, understand the words that I speak unto thee, and stand upright: for unto thee am I now sent. And when he had spoken this word unto me, I stood trembling.
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|Then said he unto me, Fear not, Daniel: for from the first day that thou didst set thine heart to understand, and to chasten thyself before thy God, thy words were heard, and I am come for thy words.
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|But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me one and twenty days: but, lo, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me; and I remained there with the kings of Persia.
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|Now I am come to make thee understand what shall befall thy people in the latter days: for yet the vision is for many days.
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|And when he had spoken such words unto me, I set my face toward the ground, and I became dumb.
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|And, behold, one like the similitude of the sons of men touched my lips: then I opened my mouth, and spake, and said unto him that stood before me, O my lord, by the vision my sorrows are turned upon me, and I have retained no strength.
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|For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me.
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|Then there came again and touched me one like the appearance of a man, and he strengthened me,
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|And said, O man greatly beloved, fear not: peace be unto thee, be strong, yea, be strong. And when he had spoken unto me, I was strengthened, and said, Let my lord speak; for thou hast strengthened me.
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|Then said he, Knowest thou wherefore I come unto thee? and now will I return to fight with the prince of Persia: and when I am gone forth, lo, the prince of Grecia shall come.
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|But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.
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==Chapter 11==

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|Also I in the first year of Darius the Mede, even I, stood to confirm and to strengthen him.
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|And now will I shew thee the truth. Behold, there shall stand up yet three kings in Persia; and the fourth shall be far richer than they all: and by his strength through his riches he shall stir up all against the realm of Grecia.
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|And a mighty king shall stand up, that shall rule with great dominion, and do according to his will.
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|And when he shall stand up, his kingdom shall be broken, and shall be divided toward the four winds of heaven; and not to his posterity, nor according to his dominion which he ruled: for his kingdom shall be plucked up, even for others beside those.
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|And the king of the south shall be strong, and one of his princes; and he shall be strong above him, and have dominion; his dominion shall be a great dominion.
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|And in the end of years they shall join themselves together; for the king's daughter of the south shall come to the king of the north to make an agreement: but she shall not retain the power of the arm; neither shall he stand, nor his arm: but she shall be given up, and they that brought her, and he that begat her, and he that strengthened her in these times.
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|But out of a branch of her roots shall one stand up in his estate, which shall come with an army, and shall enter into the fortress of the king of the north, and shall deal against them, and shall prevail:
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|And shall also carry captives into Egypt their gods, with their princes, and with their precious vessels of silver and of gold; and he shall continue more years than the king of the north.
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|So the king of the south shall come into his kingdom, and shall return into his own land.
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|But his sons shall be stirred up, and shall assemble a multitude of great forces: and one shall certainly come, and overflow, and pass through: then shall he return, and be stirred up, even to his fortress.
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|And the king of the south shall be moved with choler, and shall come forth and fight with him, even with the king of the north: and he shall set forth a great multitude; but the multitude shall be given into his hand.
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|And when he hath taken away the multitude, his heart shall be lifted up; and he shall cast down many ten thousands: but he shall not be strengthened by it.
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|For the king of the north shall return, and shall set forth a multitude greater than the former, and shall certainly come after certain years with a great army and with much riches.
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|And in those times there shall many stand up against the king of the south: also the robbers of thy people shall exalt themselves to establish the vision; but they shall fall.
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|So the king of the north shall come, and cast up a mount, and take the most fenced cities: and the arms of the south shall not withstand, neither his chosen people, neither shall there be any strength to withstand.
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|But he that cometh against him shall do according to his own will, and none shall stand before him: and he shall stand in the glorious land, which by his hand shall be consumed.
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|He shall also set his face to enter with the strength of his whole kingdom, and upright ones with him; thus shall he do: and he shall give him the daughter of women, corrupting her: but she shall not stand on his side, neither be for him.
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|After this shall he turn his face unto the isles, and shall take many: but a prince for his own behalf shall cause the reproach offered by him to cease; without his own reproach he shall cause it to turn upon him.
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|Then he shall turn his face toward the fort of his own land: but he shall stumble and fall, and not be found.
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|Then shall stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
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|And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.
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|And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
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|And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
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|He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers' fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.
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|And he shall stir up his power and his courage against the king of the south with a great army; and the king of the south shall be stirred up to battle with a very great and mighty army; but he shall not stand: for they shall forecast devices against him.
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|Yea, they that feed of the portion of his meat shall destroy him, and his army shall overflow: and many shall fall down slain.
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|And both these kings' hearts shall be to do mischief, and they shall speak lies at one table; but it shall not prosper: for yet the end shall be at the time appointed.
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|Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
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|At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
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|For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
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|And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
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|And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
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|And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
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|Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
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|And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
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|And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
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|Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
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|But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
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|Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
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|And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
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|He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many countries shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
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|He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
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|But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians shall be at his steps.
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|But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
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==Chapter 12==

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|And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
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|And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
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|And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.
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|But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
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|Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
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|And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
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|And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
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|And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
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|And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
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|Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
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|And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
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|Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
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|But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.
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[[Category:Conservative Bible]]

Talk:Make-up

2019-04-19T17:20:39Z

DouglasA: /* Insult to God */

==Insult to God==
This article does not point out how the wearing of make-up is an insult to God. This is made clear in [[Hamlet]] by [[William Shakespeare]] - "Ophelia, God has given you one face, you make yourself another". [[User:Carltonio|Carltonio]] ([[User talk:Carltonio|talk]]) 13:07, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
:So improve the article. That's how wikis work. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] ([[User talk:DouglasA|talk]]) 13:20, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Essay:Worst Liberal Movies

2019-04-19T17:17:23Z

DouglasA: /* Politically liberal live-action films */

While a good amount of [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies|great conservative films]] is produced every year, [[Hollywood values|Hollywood]] continues to produce films that attempt to normalize and aggrandize amoral lifestyles and liberal bias. Below is a list of some of the more outrageous examples:

==Politically liberal live-action films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)

|-
|''The 5th Wave''
|2016
|PG-13
|The military consists of evil aliens in what was overall a failed franchise that couldn't get on the recent young adult book-to-film bandwagon.
|$34,912,982
|-
|''Alien'' Franchise
|1979-2017
|R
|This pro-feminist, anti-capitalist film franchise was originated by atheist Ridley Scott. The first film was proven to be alarmingly similar to the 1965 film ''Planet of the Vampires'',<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IzToy-Tjz5g</ref> but since it fitted the left's agenda, they didn't care and gave it biased reviews anyway. The second film, ''Aliens'', is an anti-Vietnam statement<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T543J2L-gXU</ref> and, just like its predecessor, copies another previous feature (in this case, the 1954 film ''Them!''<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVoX-C9J4Zk</ref>).
|$515,930,723 (all together)
|-
|''All the Way''
|2016
|TV-14
|The 2016 HBO film based on the presidency of Democrat [[Lyndon B. Johnson]] is a good example of a historical revisionist film, palatable for liberals' regressive dominion of the media. Liberals seized the opportunity with the film to distort history in order to hold Johnson in high regard and also ignored many of the President's faults, including his racism, the War on Poverty and how it created a welfare state which, by design, destroyed untold numbers of African American families.
|
|-
|''American Psycho''
|2000
|R
|Don't be fooled by the false patriotic title. It's the most [[Anti-American]] film you'll ever see because it attempts to pass a stockbroker off as a secret serial killer.
|$15,070,285
|-
|''Assault on Wall Street''
|2013
|R
|Uwe Boll (often referred to as the worst director of this generation and known for his furious, vulgar, and spiteful responses to negative reception)<ref>https://www.quora.com/Why-is-Uwe-Boll-considered-one-of-the-worst-film-directors-in-history</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvLQb2uwW4</ref> makes one of the most historically inaccurate modern films that blames capitalism for the [[Recession of 2008|Great Recession]] and the downfall of the everyday man's life. The film plays out like an angry middle school boy's fan fiction revenge story, in which all the bankers are summarily executed (as in the [[Russian Revolution]]). Boll has said how "We need to ****ing kill the rich", which only shows how uneducated he is.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQJwEAqzFs4</ref>
|
|-
|''Apocalypse Now''
|1979
|R
|This overindulgent, anti-war diatribe portrays the American military as corrupt, incompetent [[drug addiction|drug-users]].
|$78,784,010
|-
|''Battleship Potemkin''
|1925
|NR
|This silent Communist film heralds the Soviet Revolt on the Tsarist Russian battleship ''Potemkin''. When mutinying, the sailors murder a Christian chaplain aboard, which is shown as an act of "heroism".
|N/A
|-
|''The Big Green''
|1995
|PG
|The movie had one of the characters blame "Reaganomics" for the lack of job opportunities in the town and also one of the team's players was an anchor baby. In the end, one of the coaches, who was a sheriff in Texas, was able to get the player and his illegal mother a way to stay. So it was also favorable toward illegal immigration.
|$17,736,619
|-
|''The Birth of a Nation''
|1915
|N/A
|This infamously racist film, once the longest ever made, begins by documenting the [[American Civil War]], then depicts the [[Ku Klux Klan]] as "heroes" who vanquish people of color, who are black racial stereotypes, from political positions and from their lawful right to vote (the KKK was founded by the Democrat Party, even though the Left has repeatedly tried denying the connection between the two). It was the first ever film to be shown at the White House under Democrat President [[Woodrow Wilson]], and it significantly influenced his already-racist core to segregate the White House and various departments.
|
|-
|''Blue State''
|2007
|R
|What looks like a romantic comedy actually encourages the false idea that [[liberalism]] must be established and conservatism abolished in America, as the main character follows up on his absurd vow to move to Canada if [[George W. Bush]] is re-elected president.
|
|-
|''Bob Roberts''
|1992
|R
|This anti-conservative propaganda piece, directed by leftist Tim Robbins and released during the 1992 election, has a similar premise to that of ''The Candidate'' and denigrates conservatives.
|$4,479,470
|-
|''Born on the Fourth of July''
|1989
|R
|This radically anti-[[Vietnam War]] biographical film was produced and directed by Communist sympathizer and twice wounded Vietnam War veteran Oliver Stone, starring Tom Cruise as paralyzed Vietnam War vet-turned-anti-Vietnam War leftist protester and Communist sympathizer [[Ron Kovic]].
|$70,001,698
|-
|''The Butler''
|2013
|PG-13
|[[Ronald Reagan]] is falsely portrayed as indifferent toward apartheid in South Africa; Nancy Reagan is played by anti-American traitor Jane Fonda; and staunch feminist Oprah Winfrey plays Cecil's wife.
|$116,632,095
|-
|''The Candidate''
|1972
|PG
|This "comedy" fails to be a political satire as it fails to lampoon both sides of the coin and supports [[George McGovern]] at every turn. It was released during the 1972 election year as a smear campaign against [[Richard Nixon]] and his conservative colleagues. Conservative star [[James Stewart]] refused to star in it for that reason.<ref>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068334/trivia?ref_=tt_trv_trv</ref>
|
|-
|''[[Capitalism: A Love Story]]''
|2009
|PG-13
|Michael Moore, staying true to his propaganda film format, relentlessly attacks America's [[capitalist]] [[economy]] with claims of alleged financial inequality.
|$14,363,397
|-
|''Casualties of War''
|1989
|R
|This anti-Vietnam war statement film starring Sean Penn involves a gang of American soldiers raping a Vietnamese woman. This paints America soldiers as the bad guys while failing to acknowledge how the Viet Cong, Khmer Rouge, and other Communist Insurgents did the same thing to a far larger scale.
|$18,671,317
|-
|''Che''
|2008; 2009
|NR
|As implied by the name, the film is a two-part biopic for the Argentine Marxist terrorist and mass murderer [[Che Guevara]], who is treated sympathetically as a "martyr" for Communism.
|US$40.9 million
|-
|''The China Syndrome''
|1979
|PG
|A fictional [[nuclear power]] plant melts down. The film greatly over-hypes this risk of a [[nuclear accident]] (or meltdown) and the resultant damage. This film, along with the [[Three Mile Island]] incident (which occurred shortly after the film's release), are both credited for killing the nuclear power industry in America.
|$51,718,367
|-
|''Chuck & Buck''
|2000
|R
|Debauched independent film about a man who revisits another man he traumatized through sexual grooming as a child. The message is that in some instances, groomers are the real victims and greatly misunderstood because of their need for casual sex. Also, if their victims weren't "brainwashed" by moralistic views about sex, most of them would consent to it and see it as a good thing, and no trauma would ever happen. In the film, when he meets the man he seduced in their youth, he encourages him to cheat on his wife, who is "holding him back", and have sex with him in order to desensitize him to hedonism and see monogamy as a perversion. The director and writer of the film is openly bisexual, and plays the role of the groomer who initiates the encounter. He admits it is based on his experiences and fantasies.
|N/A
|-
|''The Contender''
|2000
|R
|This film about the 2000 presidential election is little more than a pro-[[Al Gore]] propaganda piece by liberal studio executives and [[Hollywood values]]. Conservative star Gary Oldman also told IGN that the film was to supposed to be apolitical, but it was edited to vilify Republicans.<ref>http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/02/26/interview-with-gary-oldman</ref>
|$17,872,723
|-
|''Das Boot''
|1981
|R
|This anti-American war film looks at [[World War II]] from the Nazi perspective.
|$11,487,676
|-
|''Day of the Dead''
|1985
|R
|Liberal scientists who plan to tame zombies are the "heroes", while the common sense conservative soldiers (whose plan is to euthanize them all) are the "villains".
|$5,000,000
|-
|''Dawn of the Dead''
|1978
|R
|Besides containing outbursts of graphic violence, this stand-alone sequel to George A. Romero's ''Night of the Living Dead'' is against capitalism because the consumers are zombies.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9487PyyblpQ</ref> The 2004 Zack Snyder-directed remake abandoned this.
|$55 million
|-
|''Dead Man Walking''
|1995
|R
|It senselessly criticizes [[capital punishment]] with an ending that left some liberal viewers even more confused.
|$39,363,635
|-
|''The Devil's Backbone''
|2001
|R
|Promotes the Communistic Spanish Loyalists in the Spanish Civil War as "good guys" while demonizing [[Francisco Franco]]'s forces. These themes, promoted by Marxist director Guillermo del Toro, were later expanded upon in ''Pan's Labyrinth''.
|US$6.5 million
|-
|''The Dictator''
|2012
|R
|A Middle Easterner takes over America in this raunchy, vulgar "comedy" straining for controversy.
|$59,650,222
|-
|''Dogville''
|2003
|R
|An [[Anti-American]] propaganda film.
|$16,680,836
|-
|''Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb''
|1964
|NR
|Loosely based on Peter George's 1958 thriller novel ''Red Alert'', this black comedy is against war, the military, and nuclear weaponry and tries to downplay the seriousness of Cold War-era fears of a nuclear apocalypse.
|$9.4 million in North America
|-
|''The Eternal Jew''
|1940
|NR
|This anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda film was made with direct input from Adolf Hitler, who made sure the anti-Semitism was as blunt and direct as possible. Most audiences were shocked at the crudity of the messages.
|Unknown
|-
|''Fahrenheit 9/11''
|2004
|R
|A [[Michael Moore]] movie, which distorts the tangential link between the [[Bush]] family and the [[Bin Laden]] family. The title was also taken from ''[[Fahrenheit 451]]'', a book that warned people about book burnings, proving that not only do liberals steal titles from other works, but aren't even creative on how to have the titles directly connect to their works.
|$119,194,771
|-
|''Fair Game''
|2010
|PG-13
|Another Bush bash flick starring [[Communist]] Sean Penn. 2010 film rehashes the lead up to the [[Iraq War|war in Iraq]] and [[Valerie Plame]]'s role. It's a typical un-American Hollywood film with "The narrative that [[Karl Rove]] and [[Dick Cheney]]'s Chief of Staff [[Scooter Libby]] were nefarious behind-the-scenes players intent on destroying innocent reputations while pushing the nation into war on false pretenses." There's also no mention of Iraq Liberation Act which was signed by [[Bill Clinton]] five years before the war in Iraq.
|$9,540,691
|-
|''Fire Down Below''
|1997
|R
|Steven Seagal plays a Gary Stu-like role in this environmentalist feature.
|$16,228,448
|-
|''[[Frost/Nixon]]''
|2008
|R
|As implied by the title, it attempts to further tarnish the reputation of [[Richard Nixon]].
|$18,622,031
|-
|''Game Change''
|2012
|Not Rated
|[[Liberal]] haters play [[conservative]]s in an [[HBO]] film about [[Sarah Palin]]. Many debunked controversies are highlighted in the plot. Both [[John McCain|McCain]] and Palin denounced the film and called it fiction.
|NA - TV
|-
|''God Bless America''
|2011
|R
|Despite its name the movie is a rip-off of the conservative film ''Falling Down'', this "comedy" has a miserable man and his foul-mouthed [[nihilist]] girl sidekick summary executes [[Tea Party]] members, a Fox News like-host, Christians, and other conservative stereotypes.
|$123,000
|-
|''The Good Shepherd''
|2006
|R
|Despite covering the founding of the CIA, the film was extremely anti-CIA in its messaging, where it doubles down on making the CIA look as bad as possible and overemphasizes on CIA failures such as the Bay of Pigs invasion and their experimenting with LSD, while conveniently ignoring the crimes the KGB and similar intelligence agencies within the Soviet bloc.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/</ref>
|$99.5 million
|-
|''Green Zone''
|2010
|R
|Is extremely anti-War on Terror to such an extent that it comes across as blatantly anti-American, as it repeats the falsehood that Pentagon officials lied about there being WMDs in Iraq simply so they could gin up a war in the Middle East (completely ignoring that various other intelligence agencies, including even France, a country that didn't even want a War with Iraq, acknowledging that Saddam had WMDs), and even had the main villain, who was modeled after Donald Rumsfeld, sending assassination teams against those in the know about the conspiracy. The film even went as far as to portray Iraqi terrorists as the "good guys". The film was also notorious as being Universal Studios' biggest box office bomb as a result.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/3/</ref>
|$94.9 million
|-
|''Hidden Agenda''
|1990
|R
|Depicts the [[IRA]] oppressed freedom fighters while painting the Unionists as monsters. The film also doesn't speak highly of [[Margaret Thatcher]] either.
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|-
|''Independence Day: Resurgence''
|2016
|R
|Although it is the sequel to the patriotic and to a certain extent conservative film ''Independence Day'', it does not at all reference the concepts of patriotism, American exceptionalism, or even national sovereignty. Instead, most of the movie seems to support globalism, and Doctor Okun is revealed to be a homosexual despite such never being implied in the original film. Forced multicultural elements are present as well.
|$389.7 million
|-
|''JFK''
|1991
|R
|This historically inaccurate account on President John F. Kennedy's assassination serves liberal filmmaker Oliver Stone's insanely fanatic conspiracy theories. For example, the filmmaker pinpoints the blame to the "real murder" of Kennedy: the conservative politicians, the U.S. Military, and then-Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson, all of whom want America to go to war in Vietnam because Kennedy rejected the American involvement. Stone described the film as a "counter-myth" to the Warren Commission's "fictional myth."
|$70,405,498
|-
|''Lolita'' (1997 film)
|1997
|R
|The second film to be based on Vladimir Nabokov's infamous novel, the first being by Stanley Kubrick. However, in contrast to the very tame Kubrick version (limited only by the censorship of it's day), this version indulges with the gratuitous sexuality that made the book so controversial. The story portrays the relationship of Lolita and Humbert as a beautiful romance. Also, as implied by the tagline of the film's poster, the main message is that "Age is Just a Number".
|$1.1 million
|-
|''The Lone Ranger''
|2013
|PG-13
|This attack on [[capitalist]]s and the [[military]] portrays the former as ruthless, greedy railroad executives and the latter as "thugs" who support their actions. It distorts the messages of its source material by displaying the [[Lone Ranger]], shown to be a smart intellectual character in the original TV and radio serials, as dumbfounded and unintelligent, instead featuring his sidekick [[Tonto]] (played by [[liberal]] [[marijuana|pot]]-smoker [[Johnny Depp]]) not only as the "star" of the film but as the Lone Ranger's "voice of reason", too.
|$89,302,115
|-
|''Love, Simon''
|2018
|PG-13
|This coming-of-age film is an attempt by Hollywood to create a "family friendly", pseudo-conservative take on the gay romance genre. While in theory this sounds less objectionable than most offerings of this kind, it could also be considered more deceptive and dangerous. This is because it obscures the uglier, raunchier aspects of the gay lifestyle in order to create a very misleading, "heartwarming" fantasy of gay life and relationships.
|$66.3 million
|-
|''The Magnificent Seven'' (2016 film)
|2016
|PG-13
|This remake of a Western about seven vigilante gunfighters out to save a peaceful Mexican farming village from marauders (itself an adaptation of the Japanese cinematic classic ''Seven Samurai'') suits the left agenda, as capitalists are the "villains".<ref>http://missliberty.com/magnificent-seven-remake-is-angry-radical-fantasy/</ref>
|$93,145,387
|-
|''Manderlay''
|2003
|R
|[[James Caan]] refused to star in this anti-American sequel to ''Dogville'', describing director Lars von Trier as anti-American and stated that he himself is an "ultra-conservative".
|$674,918
|-
|''The Matrix'' trilogy
|1999 (''[[The Matrix]]''); 2003 (''The Matrix Reloaded'' and ''The Matrix Revolutions'')
|R
|A hacker discovers his world is a replica of the world as it was before a cataclysmic future event in which intelligent machines took over humanity, so he joins a resistance to end the machines' reign. Despite this salvation narrative, the whole trilogy glorifies anarchism and [[nihilism]] (even including a brief nod to [[Jean Baudrillard]]'s "On Nihilism" chapter from Simulacra and Simulation), hinting several times towards a pro-Communist, anti-American, [[anti-Christian]] view. The second film's Architect scene tries to give a "devastating critique/twist" to salvation myths, with the Architect as a malevolent allegorical substitute for the Christian [[God]]. In this same scene, a panel of screens implicitly compares [[George W. Bush]] to Hitler during a discussion of evil in the world, and it features wars and conflicts specifically involving America. In fact, far-[[leftist|Left]] [[race-baiting]] scholar Cornel West was hired to play a role in the film specifically because the [[The Wachowskis|Wachowski Brothers]] (as they were known at the time) were influenced by his pro-socialist/Communist and anti-American rhetoric. The first film's throwaway dialogue between the main villain Agent Smith and the treasonous freedom fighter Cipher is a shallow attempt at insulting [[Ronald Reagan]] because Smith implies that Cipher will become the next Ronald Reagan should he succeed in betraying his allies to the agents. The trilogy's overall depiction of religion is closer to Gnosticism, even with Neo, the main protagonist, presented as a savior-figure. The Wachowskis openly admitted in an interview that they deliberately modeled the entire story after Friedrich Nietzche's writings.<ref>http://www.equip.org/article/the-matrix-unloaded-revelations/</ref><ref>Peter Bart, “Cracking the Wachowski’s Code,” Variety.com, May 25, 2003.</ref> The trilogy has been cited as the cause for various murders, ultimately leading to a variant of the [[insanity defense]] known as the Matrix Defense<ref>https://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/05/21/ctv.matrix.insanity/</ref>, and it shares similar themes to the [[Worst Liberal Video Games|Worst Liberal Video Game]] ''Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty'' because Hideo Kojima confessed that he intended to use the same themes for the game.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130328062143/http://www.gamespot.com/news/hideo-kojima-speaks-about-the-matrix-2448486</ref>
| $592,370,339 (all together)
|-
|''Midnight in Paris''
|2011
|PG-13
|The main character, a liberal author, is open-minded and intellectual. He has an unsuccessful relationship with a woman whose family is Republican and are depicted as being "materialistic", "selfish", "narrow-minded" and "hateful" towards any country that is not the United States.
|$56,816,662
|-
|''Milk''
|2008
|R
|Sean Penn portrays openly homosexual politician [[Harvey Milk]] in this biography.
|$31,841,299
|-
|''The Motorcycle Diaries''
|2004
|R
|Walter Salles directs this fawning monument to [[Communist]] terrorist and mass murderer [[Che Guevara]].
|$16,781,387
|-
|''The Naked Gun 2½: The Smell of Fear''
|1991
|15
|The more openly liberal sequel to the apolitical ''The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad!'' pushes environmentalism and attacks productive businesses, especially the oil industry.
|$86,930,411
|-
|''[[Night of the Living Dead]]''
|1968
|R
|This independent horror abomination by George A. Romero vilifies [[nuclear energy]], as nuclear fallout from an exploding space probe in Earth's atmosphere is said to be the cause of the recently deceased becoming reanimated. In addition, it negatively portrays police officers as racist: a group of officers kills Ben, the African American protagonist, when they mistake him for one of the dead, which Romero intentionally chose to have happen to accuse the police of being behind racial lynchings. Had two [[sequel]]s , ''Dawn of the Dead'' (1978 Italian) and ''Day of the Dead'' (1985).
|
|-
|''Nixon''
|1995
|R
|This historically inaccurate biography of [[Richard Nixon]] is directed by liberal filmmaker [[Oliver Stone]].
|$13,681,765
|-
|''Okja''
|2017
|N/A
|This environmentalist propaganda piece vilifies capitalists and essentially plagiarizes the Buster Keaton classic ''Go West''.
|
|-
|''On Deadly Ground''
|1994
|R
|The film demonizes the oil industry as greedy and unsympathetic while praising the [[EPA]].
|$38,590,458
|-
|''Pan's Labyrinth''
|2006
|R
|Aside from it promoting paganism and the occult, it also demonized [[Francisco Franco]]'s Spain and promoted the Spanish Republicans from the Spanish Civil War due to it being made by Marxist director [[Guillermo del Toro]].<ref>https://www.richardsilverstein.com/2007/01/19/pans-labyrinth-allegory-of-spanish-civil-war/</ref>
|$83.3 million
|-
|''The Post''
|2017
|R
|An obvious promotion of the leaking of the ''[[Pentagon Papers]]''. It treats the liberal journalists who committed the leaking in a positive light, while depicting Nixon in a negative light (despite Nixon never being responsible for the Pentagon Papers in the first place, and it being done under the auspices of Democrats JFK and LBJ).
|$179.8 million
|-
|''Recount''
|2008
|Not Rated
|The 2008 [[HBO]] movie on the [[United States presidential election, 2000|2000 Presidential election]] and its aftermath in [[Florida]], presented from a [[Liberal bias|liberal-biased]] viewpoint. A look into how [[Democrats]] and their [[Mainstream media|liberal media]] supporters claim the [[Republicans]] "stole" the [[election]] and the alleged role of its party members that the Democrats claim "made it happen" (although in reality, it was the Democrats themselves who tried to steal the election for their candidate [[Al Gore]] [[United States presidential election, 2000#Recount|by attempting to commit vote fraud in Florida through ordering selective recounts in Democrat-friendly areas while ignoring Republican-strong areas]], only to be stopped when the US Supreme Court ruled the Democrats' end-run attempt around election rules to be illegal). Republicans are portrayed as ghoulish and cited as manufacturing demonstrations. Both the real [[Warren Christopher]] and [[James Baker]] contend the film's portrayal of the former is hopelessly untrue.
|NA - TV
|-
|''Redacted''
|2007
|R
|Brian De Palma’s 2007 fictional anti-Iraq War film funded by Mark Cuban. The film is credited with inspiring a [[terrorist]] attack that killed two U.S. servicemen in [[Germany]].
|$65,388
|-
|''Reds''
|1981
|PG
|As a biographical film on the life of notorious American [[Communist]] journalist John Reed, ''Reds'' is a sentimental and overly romanticized portrait of [[Communism]], [[humanism]], and [[anarchism]].
|$40,382,659
|-
|''The Return of the Living Dead''
|1985
|R
|In another stand-alone sequel to ''Night of the Living Dead'', the military is supposedly responsible for the release of a toxin that turns people into zombies. The military is also shown to be inconstant, as they "fix" this by nuking the city of zombies. An anti-[[Ronald Reagan|Reagan]] statement some may say (the Left feared that Reagan would create nuclear holocaust, which is present in this film).
|$14,237,880
|-
|''Robocop''
|1988
|R
|Left-wing smut-peddler Paul Verhoeven's failed attempt to depict all police forces and corporations as evil. Also a grotesque parody of Christ's resurrection.
|
|-
|''Sacco e Vanzetti''
|1971
|UR
|As implied by the title, the film acts as a biopic of the anarchist murderers [[Sacco and Vanzetti]], with them being portrayed in a sympathetic light. In addition, the [[Essay:Worst Liberal Song|Worst Liberal Song]] "Here's to You", also dealing with the two anarchists in a similar light, was released with this movie as part of its soundtrack.
|N/A
|-
|''Shoot 'Em Up''
|2007
|R
|An anti-second amendment film, the so-called "hero" is a [[nihilist]] and the "villains" are trying to defend gun rights and the Second Amendment.
|$12,807,139
|-
|''Short Circuit''
|1986
|PG (Should be PG-13)
|On top of just being an blatant ''E.T.'' rip-off, ''Short Circuit'' also downgrades the military (or the Reagan Administration in general).
|$40,697,761
|-
|''[[SiCKO]]''
|2007
|PG-13
|Another Michael Moore film which spread many falsehoods about American [[healthcare]] while unduly glorifying the so-called benefits of [[socialized medicine]] such as now found in [[Obamacare]]. Memorably referred to [[Cuba]]n healthcare as being "better" than American healthcare.
|$24,540,079
|-
|''The Siege''
|1998
|R
|Don't be fooled by the fact that Bruce Willis is in it. Willis plays the antagonist, an Army general who institutes martial law in New York City after a wave of terrorist attacks. Portrays Muslims as the "victims" while demonizing the military.
|$40,932,372
|-
|''Star Trek: Into Darkness''
|2013
|PG-13
|Aside from it being a blatant ripoff on ''Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan'' in terms of plotline, the film also has several anti-War on Terror messages, as indicated by both Benedict Cumberbatch and Simon Pegg.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/2/22/4-ways-star-trek-into-darkness-shills-for-surrender-in-the-war-on-terror/</ref>
|$467.4 million
|-
|''Süss the Jew''
|1940
|NR
|Anti-Semitic Nazi propaganda film, that was notorious for it successfully pushing the anti-Semitic agenda throughout Nazi Germany via a subtle method.
|Unknown.
|-
|''Syriana''
|2005
|R
|Is anti-War on Terror, with the film heavily implying that Saudi Arabia was in the middle of liberal reforms that America interfered with due to oil businessmen (despite the exact opposite being true).<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/4/</ref>
|$94 million
|-
|''They Live''
|1988
|R
|Capitalists are portrayed as evil aliens planning to rule the world. The director John Carpenter also claimed in interviews that the film was anti-[[Ronald Reagan]]<ref>http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/john-carpenter-they-live-was-about-giving-the-finger-to-reagan/#/0</ref>
|$13,008,928
|-
|''The Thomas Crown Affair''
|1968
|R
|Supports the claim that capitalism causes crime.
| $14 million
|-
|''Tomorrowland''
|2015
|PG
|Don't let the fact that the film had basis on the theme park proposed by [[Walt Disney]] fool you. The film was anti-capitalist and pro-liberal/progressive values propaganda with it pushing the exact opposite messages that Disney himself wanted to impart. Bill Whittle, when reviewing the film, even mentioned that had he still been alive and saw the film, Disney would most likely have torn up his proposal for [[Disneyland]] and proceeded to drink himself to death in despair of what the film claimed his idea was.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmxeoh69G4o</ref>
|$209.2 million
|-
|''Tout va Bien''
|1972
|NR
|[[Jane Fonda]] "art film" directed by [[Jean-Luc Godard]], who was notoriously anti-American and idolized [[Karl Marx]], is nothing more than a propaganda film for Communism, as it sympathizes with the youths who partook in the [[May 1968 riots|May 1968 Communist uprisings]] in [[France]] and features blunt anti-American imagery.
|
|-
|''Triumph of the Will''
|1935
|N/A
|The world's most infamous Nazi propaganda film (even though the Left denies it, the Nazis were in truth left wing National Socialists).
|
|-
|''Trumbo''
|2015
|R
|Dalton Trumbo, one of the Hollywood Ten who was jailed for his Communist beliefs, is portrayed as a free-speech martyr, and a "champion" of the First Amendment. All of his controversial beliefs are whitewashed, including his support of Lenin, Hitler (until the Nazi-Soviet Pact fell), Kim Il-Sung, and, of course, Stalin. Conversely, anti-Communists such as John Wayne, Hedda Hopper, Robert Taylor, Roy Brewer, the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), and the Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals (MPA) are falsely portrayed as "hateful", "oppressive", and anti-free-speech.
|$7,857,741
|-
|''Truth''
|2015
|R
|Highly fictionalized political docudrama about the Killian documents controversy meant to further tarnish the reputation of [[George W. Bush]]. The film was not approved by current CBS President and CEO Leslie Moonves and CBS refused to air advertisements for the film due to its, as the network stated, "inaccuracies and distortions".
|$2,541,854
|-
|''V for Vendetta''
|2005
|R
|Blatantly glorifies [[anarchism]], [[socialism]], [[Communism]] and [[homosexuality]].
|$70,511,035
|-
|''[[W.]]''
|2008
|PG-13
|A movie designed to denigrate the role of [[Christianity]] in U.S. [[politics]] and particularly in the life of [[George W. Bush]].
|$25,534,493
|-
|''White House Down''
|2013
|PG-13
|Mocks conservatives with a liberal plot twist that makes the [[TEA Party]] out to be "terrorists". This movie was made by uber-liberals to counter great conservative film; ''Olympus Has Fallen'', which depicts North Korean terrorists as the bad guys.
|$73,103,784
|-
|''Winchester''
|2018
|PG-13
|Based loosely on the Winchester Mystery House in San Jose, California. The film focuses more on its anti-gun message than the actual paranormal events.<ref>https://www.newyorker.com/culture/richard-brody/winchester-confronts-the-american-curse-of-firearms</ref>
|
|-
|''Z''
|1969
|R
|Liberal propaganda that blames the [[military]] for liberal wrongdoing.
|$14,283,305
|-
|}

==Socially liberal live-action films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''4 Months, 3 Weeks, and 2 Days''
|2007
|NR
|This Romanian film baselessly supports [[abortion]]. Liberals praised it when it won the Palme d'Or at the Cannes Film Festival.
|$1,198,208
|-
|''American Pie''
|1999
|R
|The first installment of a long-running film franchise primarily dealing with teenage sex and alcohol relies on jokes about sex and bodily functions, even treating date rape as "funny".
|$102,561,004
|-
|''Animal House''
|1978, full title ''National Lampoon's Animal House''
|R
|This college "comedy" glorifies [[alcohol abuse]], debauchery, [[nihilism]], extramarital sex, and all varieties of youthful rebellion. The dean, played by John Vernon, suggests that being "Fat, drunk and stupid, son, is no way to go through life" to one of the rebellious youth representing the rowdy Delta Tau Chi fraternity, but he's depicted as the villain because of that. After the Delta boys are finally punished by being collectively expelled from college, they exact their revenge by sabotaging a homecoming parade and do not face punishment for such a great misdeed. Even so, the film's "hero", portrayed by one of Hollywood's most amoral actors ever, John Belushi, goes on to become a U.S. Senator, which is passed off as humorous.
|$141,600,000
|-
|''Atomic Blonde''
|2017
|R
|This Cold War film's major themes are feminism, the LGBT agenda, and racism against those with dark hair and eyes.
|$51,573,925
|-
|''[[Avatar (film)|Avatar]]''
|2009
|PG-13
|The highest-grossing feature in history, directed by liberal James Cameron, enforces many destructive messages, including [[environmentalism]], [[feminism]], and the absurd claim that nature is God. It also ridicules the military and large businesses. To make matters worse, the protagonist forms a rather creepy romance with the native princess, who is of another species, perhaps a symbol for bestiality. The overall plotline hints at endorsing environmental terrorism, which Cameron indicated that he himself supported.
|$760,507,625
|-
|''Bad Santa''
|2003
|R
|Lots of coarse language, sexual escapades, drunkenness, and also the main plot involved a con man posing as a Mall Santa so he and his dwarf accomplice can rob the mall's safe. It was bad enough that critics panned Disney for allowing the trashing of a cultural icon like Santa Claus as well as even then-Disney CEO, Michael Eisner, to be disgusted with the resulting film, acting as one of the main reasons for Miramax being cut loose from Disney alongside ''Kill Bill''.
|$60 million
|-
|''Bad Santa 2''
|2016
|R
|This sequel follows the already revolting ''Bad Santa''. Miramax, which distributed this movie as well as its predecessor, was acquired in 2016 by beIN Media Group, which is owned by Islamic propaganda channel [[Al Jazeera]].
|$23.2 million
|-
|''Bad Teacher''
| 2011
|R
|Cameron Diaz stars as an awful high school teacher, who is always getting high and drunk, tries to get breast-implant surgery, and encourages cheating and stealing from her students. The movie contains no [[morals]] and is filled with offensive sexual content.
| $100,292,856
|-
|''Beginners''
|2011
|R
|Promotes homosexuality and "[[coming out of the closet]]".
|$5,790,894
|-
|''Being John Malkovich''
|1999
|R
|This biopic celebrates homosexuality and includes a large amount of vulgar humor.
|$637,721
|-
|''Ben & Arthur''
|2002
|
|As the title suggests, this is a pro-homosexual propaganda movie which also portrays Christians as "hateful bigots". The film has the reputation of being one of the most hated homosexual movies by critics and audiences alike, even among homosexuals. Wikipedia also acknowledges this, as this movie is on the page "List of movies considered the worst". Was a major box-office bomb.
|$40,000
|-
|''[[The Big Lebowski]]''
|1998
|R
|Glorifies [[drug abuse]], laziness, and [[nihilism]].
|$17,451,873
|-
|''Billy Elliot''
|2000
|R
|This British film stars a boy who represents the homosexual agenda by wanting to be a ballet dancer rather than play sports. There are very poor family values as the family is constantly cursing at one another.
|$21,995,263
|-
|''Bio-Dome''
|1996
|PG-13
|It's a stoner film with an environmentalist theme.
|$13,427,615
|-
|''The Birdcage''
|1996
|R
|Yet another pro-[[homosexual agenda]] and conservative bashing film.
|$124,060,553
|-
|''Blow''
|2001
|R
|Glorifies the life of drug dealer, and suspected murderer, George Jung.
|$52,990,775
|-
|''Blue is the Warmest Color''
|2013
|NC-17
|This French film supports the [[homosexual agenda]] by graphically showing lesbian sex and falsely idealizing the concept that homosexuals can be sound mentors to young children. At the Cannes Film Festival, which was headed by liberal [[Steven Spielberg]] and had a board that included ''[[Brokeback Mountain]]'' director, Ang Lee, it was unanimously awarded the top prize. t is widely believed that this victory was due to France's legalization of [[same-sex marriage|same-sex "marriage"]] eight days prior. At least one of the stars of the film admitted that she felt disgusted by her role in it.
|$2,199,787
|-
|Boat Trip
|2002
|R
|This film about two men who accidentally aboard a gay cruise shamelessly promotes the homosexual agenda and presents the attempted sexual assault of a man by a woman as "humorous".
|$15,020,293<ref>https://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=boattrip.htm</ref>
|-
|''Boogie Nights''
|1997
|R
|A young man journeys through the pornography industry in the 1970s and 1980s and glorifies the exploitation of women.
|$26,400,640
|-
|''Boyhood''
|2014
|R
|Centered on a family raised by a single mother, it downplays the importance a father has on a child's growth and development, mocks conservative Christians, and promotes underage drinking and pot smoking.
|$44,400,000
|-
|''Boys Don't Cry''
|1999
|R
|It glorifies the choice of a young girl to embrace homosexual and transgender life choices, dishonesty, and pre-marital relations. Furthermore, it caricatures and exaggerates natural reactions to her perversion, all in aid of promoting the [[homosexual agenda]].
|$11,533,945
|-
|''[[The Breakfast Club]]''
|1985
|R
|What masquerades as a drama comparing the similar personalities of five seemingly very different teenagers in school detention really promotes the use of drugs, smoking, and extramarital sex. Although it does contain the conservative quote "You ought to spend a little more time trying to make something of yourself and a little less time trying to impress people", it is said by the main villain of the movie, the high school principal.
|$51,525,171
|-
|''[[Brokeback Mountain]]''
|2005
|R
|This nauseating "romance" film proves that [[liberals]] will [[shoehorning|shoehorn]] the homosexual agenda into anything, even Westerns. It was also an early example of production companies dictating film distribution services of what they should distribute to the local level, often against the distributor's own decisions.
|$83,043,761
|-
|''The Brothers Grimsby''
|2016
|R
|This vulgar film is loaded with sex jokes, sex scenes, nudity, one graphic elephant sex scene, and a joke about Donald Trump getting AIDS.
|$6,874,837
|-
|''But I'm a Cheerleader''
|1999
|R
|A lesbian [[public school]] [[cheerleading|cheerleader]] is attracted to other cheerleaders, portraying [[homosexuality]] as a legitimate lifestyle. The film attacks and ridicules [[reparative therapy]] and religious people, and it normalizes lesbians by depicting the star as a girly cheerleader, obviously a forced subversion of the lesbian archetype.
|$2,205,627
|-
|''Call Me By Your Name''
|2017
|R
|The ''[[Brokeback Mountain]]'' of 2017, only this time pedophilia, in addition to homosexuality, is endorsed and displayed as "normal" and "intellectual".
|
|-
|''Caligula''
|1979
|UR (should be NC-17)
|This historical drama about infamous Roman emperor of the same name has been considered the most pornographic movie ever made, which led to it being a critical failure. It has unsimulated scenes of oral and anal sex, incest, and close-ups of the genitalia of both sexes, along with brutal violence. Upon release, several U.S. cities tried to prevent the movie from being played, though liberal courts repeatedly affirmed that it passed the Miller test (claiming that it was not obscene enough to be banned). Some lawyers defending it even lamented that it helped to form a conservative morality, which may have helped Ronald Reagan win the 1980 election.
|$23 million
|-
|''The Cat in the Hat''
|2003
|PG (Should be PG-13)
|This bastardization of an instantly recognizable children's classic, filled with adult humor and pandered to focus groups, is the reason why Dr. Seuss's widow has banned any live-action adaptations of Seuss's works. It won a one-time Golden Raspberry (or "Razzie") Award for "Worst Excuse for an Actual Movie (All Concept/No Content)" and was nominated for eight other Razzies.
|$134 million
|-
|''The Cider House Rules''
|1999
|PG-13
|Glorifies [[abortion]] and advocates [[pro-choice]] values to a fault.
|$57,545,092
|-
|''Chappie''
|2015
|PG-13
|Another "social" science fiction film that just abuses our [[First Amendment|first amendment right]] to bash capitalism. Neill Blomkamp also directed liberal films District 9 and Elysium too. On an optimistic note, the film got bad reviews (even from liberal critics)<ref>https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/chappie/</ref> and the film did poorly in America (70% of its gross came from overseas).<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=chappie.htm</ref>
|$31,569,268
|-
|''[[Clerks]]''
|1994
|R
|Filled with constant vulgar [[profanity]]. Previously rated NC-17 before being appealed for an R rating.
|$3,151,130
|-
|''Clerks 2''
|2006
|R
|Sequel to the liberal comedy, filled with more profanity and even more disgusting acts that could not be in the budget of the original film.
|$24,148,068
|-
|''[[The Cosmic Slop]]''
|1994
|NR
|HBO trilogy focusing on minority science fiction. The main claim to fame was an adaptation of ''[[The Space Traders]]'', a race-baiting short story that was written by the infamous race-baiting leftist professor Derrick Bell.
|
|-
|''Dallas Buyers Club''
|2013
|R
|Egregiously supports the homosexual agenda during its deadly-years [[AIDS]] epidemic..
|$27,298,285
|-
|''The Danish Girl''
|2015
|R
|One of the definitive pro-homosexual/gender confusion propaganda films. Eddie Redmayne portrays Einar Wegener, a landscape artist who stands in for a female model who no-showed for a planned painting made by Wegener's wife, Gerda. Einar, who has undergone gender confusion for years, snaps as a result of the modeling sessions where he stands in as "female" and he begins claiming to be a "woman" calling himself "Lili Elbe", which nearly leads to him being committed to an asylum. Einar later undergoes surgical mutilation to accommodate his delusion, but he dies of infection due to the mutilation.
|$11,114,018
|-
|''The Day After''
|1983
|Not Rated
|Attacks the military and conservative politicians, and encourages negotiation with Communists.
|NA - TV
|-
|''The Day After Tomorrow''
|2004
|PG-13
|Overdramatic, nonsensical portrayal of the consequences of fictional "[[climate change]]".
|$186,740,799
|-
|''Day of the Animals''
|1977
|PG
|Environmentalist propaganda that states "global warming" turns woodland animals into psychotic human-hunters. It also claims that humans must get what they deserve (which they do not).
|$2 million
|-
|''Dazed and Confused''
|1993
|R
|This coming of age film circa 1976, attempts to normalize [[promiscuity]] and [[drug abuse]] among teenagers and young adults.
|$7,993,039
|-
|''District 9''
|2009
|R
|Alien invaders are shown sympathetically, but the military, corporations, and humans in general are not.
|$115,646,235
|-
|''Django Unchained
|2012
|R
|Quentin Tarantino's Western gratuitously uses graphic violence and the n-word.
|$425,368,238
|-
|''Don’t Breathe''
|2016
|R
|The movie's protagonists are three burglars who break into homes (secured by one of their father’s security company) to steal items to sell. The "villain" of the movie is a blind army veteran, and the homeowner of the house they are breaking into. Although they do find he has kidnapped the girl who killed his daughter in a car accident. Also the leader of the thieves is a girl, which is clearly a sign of feminism.
|$89,217,875
|-
|''Doom''
|2005
|R
|Based on the video game that influenced the [[Columbine High School massacre|Columbine High School massacre]]<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20060223025846/columbine.free2host.net/quotes.html</ref>, ll the military characters (except one) are corrupt. Fans of the game criticized it for not including much monster-themed action.
|$28,212,337
|-
|''Drag Me to Hell''
|2009
|R
|Despite being made by known Republican<ref>http://whatculture.com/offbeat/10-celebs-you-wouldnt-expect-to-be-republicans?page=4</ref> Sam Raimi, the film's premise dealt with a woman being condemned simply for doing what her job required her to do at the bank, with Raimi also implicitly stating that the gypsy who cursed her had sympathetic reasons for cursing the main protagonist despite the fact that she herself had explicitly foresaked paying mortgage three times. In addition, the means to counteract the Lamia (the creature responsible for sending people to Hell when cursed) were more explicitly Pagan than Christian.
|$90.8 million
|-
|''Easy Rider''
|1969
|R
|Glorifies every aspect of the hippie lifestyle, and is also Anti-American. Portrays conservatives as "bigoted" rednecks.
|$60 million
|-
|''Elysium''
|2013
|R
|This propaganda piece criticizes big business and supports [[illegal immigration]].
|$93,050,117
|-
|''Fantastic Four''
|2015
|PG-13
|Based very loosely on the comics of the same name and deprived of the source material's humor, the film portrays the military in a negative manner. Here, they only want to use superpowered teens as weapons. On top of that, they also changed the race of the Human Torch for political correctness/cultural Marxism reasons. The film was also infamous for its controversial behind-the-scenes history. The studio executives mandated reshoots without the director's knowledge of this and the final cut was gutted in the editing room. Director Josh Trank was so angered by this that he completely disowned the film.<ref>http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/josh-trank-disowns-fantastic-four-via-twitter-claims-studio-interference-322</ref>
|$56,117,548
|-
|''Fast Food Nation''
|2006
|R
|Despite its title and that fact that Bruce Willis is in it, the film is attacks fast food and capitalism while pushing environmentalism, veganism, illegal immigration, and extramarital sex.
|$1,005,539
|-
|''Fast Times at Ridgemont High''
|1982
|R
|Film glorifies [[drug abuse]], premarital sex, and [[abortion]]. It was also one of [[Sean Penn]]'s early film roles as he would go on to star in more liberal propaganda films.
|$27,092,880
|-
|''The Forest''
|2016
|PG-13
|Depicts the Aokigahara Forest in Japan as a scary place filled with vengeful ghosts. In reality, it is a sad place where people go to commit suicide.
|$37.6 million
|-
|''The Fourth Kind''
|2009
|PG-13
|Uses the real-life tragedies of deceased and missing citizens of Nome, Alaska to make money with a fictitious story about alien abductions.
|$47,709,193
|-
|''Freddy Got Fingered''
|2001
|R
|Contains a lot of crude and revolting gross-out sexual humor, including a scene where the main character actually makes a horse [censored]. Uses shock tactics in much the same way that ''[[Family Guy]]'' does. Won five Razzie awards, including Worst Picture and four awards (Worst Actor, Worst Director, Worst Screenplay and Worst Screen Couple) for star and director, Canadian "comedian" Tom Green.
|$14.3 million
|-
|''Furry Vengeance''
|2010
|PG
|This film is pro-environmentalism and anti-capitalist on steroids. The main antagonist is a wealthy businessman, and he and his workers are demonized for doing their job. One of them gets attacked by a raccoon. In the end, the main character, a real estate developer, is forced to change his job after "learning the animals' stories" and he even puts up a poster saying that anyone who violates the forest preservation will be fined at $1,000,000.00.
|$35,000,000
|-
|''Ghostbusters'' (2016 remake)
|2016
|PG-13
|This staunchly feminist remake of the conservative horror comedy classic replaces all the original male heroes with women who appear to have only vaguely different personalities, and every male character is either unintelligent or mean-spirited. Racism and sexual innuendoes are present as well.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7ikR-6uSMYz</ref> Also the remake also replaces the [[EPA]] with [[United States Department of Homeland Security|Homeland Security]] as the bad guys. Luckily, no one other than the world's most biased liberal critics liked it, as its trailer was known for being the most hated of its kind on YouTube.<ref>http://screencrush.com/ghostbusters-trailer-most-disliked-movie-trailer-in-history/</ref> Sony was caught making fake reviews<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXv3w59raZ4</ref> and the film flopped at the box office <ref>https://www.imdb.com/news/ni60138331?fb_comment_id=1146766692061206_1146942958710246&comment_id=1146942958710246</ref> so tremendously that Sony Pictures Entertainment lost over $70 million.
|$120,049,002
|-
|''Glen or Glenda''
|1953
|Not rated
|Created by Ed Wood, widely regarded as one of the worst directors of all time, it celebrates cross-dressing and transsexualism.
|N/A
|-
|''Godzilla'' (1998 film)
|1998
|PG-13
|Liberal and homosexual director Roland Emmerich turns Godzilla into a girl and enforces the idea military does more damage than Godzilla. The film even fails to address the original message of the original 1954 Japanese film (the first ''Godzilla'' was created in response to fears of the aftermath of the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki at the end of World War II), with the resulting film likewise being hated by Godzilla fans and by Toho Films, to the extent that the "Godzilla" in this film when later appearing in the mainline films was given a separate identity to the mainstream Godzilla and beaten easily. Liberals also panned the film, in particular a running gag which had the Mayor of New York doing a "thumbs up and thumbs down" vote in an unsubtle jab at Siskel and Ebert.
|$136,314,294
|-
|''[[Good Will Hunting]]''
|1997
|R
|Left-wing actors/writers [[Matt Damon]] and [[Ben Affleck]] created this coming of age film that is the main reason why [[Howard Zinn]]'s anti-American revisionist textbook ''A People's History of the United States'' became both public knowledge and provided in all universities and high schools across America. Matt Damon's character, Will Hunting, tells [[Robin William]]'s character in a pivotal scene, "You wanna read a ''real'' history book? Read Howard Zinn’s ''People’s History of the United States''. That book’ll f*****’ knock you on your a**.”<ref>https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2013/8/9/the-5-most-destructive-political-ideas-in-matt-damons-movies/5/</ref>
|$225,933,435
|-
|''Gringo''
|2018
|R
|Not only is the title of this movie a racial slur against white people, but this movie also egregiously promotes pot smoking. In addition, the main male character is extremely feminine, which suits Hollywood's stance on the traditional gender roles. This movie didn't even make the Top 10 its opening weekend, despite heavy marketing.
|
|-
|''Hair''
|1979
|PG (Should be R)
|Based on the Broadway musical, the film's profanity, its depiction of the use of illegal drugs, its treatment of sexuality, its irreverence for the American flag, and its gratuitous nudity caused much comment and controversy as it did when the stage musical first premiered in 1967. A product of the hippie counterculture and sexual revolution of the 1960s, several of its songs became anthems of the anti-Vietnam War peace movement.
|$15,284,643
|-
|''Hairspray''
|2007
|PG
|Poor [[moral]]s shown, encourages homosexual agenda, bad behavior, such as smoking, drinking, cursing. Many sexual comments are shown. It portrays conservatives and those with high expectations in a negative viewpoint.
|$118,871,849
|-
|''Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle''
|2004
|R
|The adventures of two pot-smokers who play up ethnic stereotypes.
|$18,250,550
|-
|''Horrible Bosses''
|2011
|R
|Three men try to kill their bosses. Two of the three bosses are wealthy businessmen. The film is also filled with offensive language and many sexual references. Was followed by a sequel that however supported the American Dream and capitalism.
|$117,538,559
|-
|''The Hottie and the Nottie''
|2008
|PG-13 (should be R)
|Ultra-liberal actress [[Paris Hilton]] stars in this movie that glorifies every aspect of the "bimbo", "dumb blonde" and "valley girl" lifestyles (all of which Hilton herself has embraced over time as part of her public persona) and contains demeaning depictions against those with dark hair and dark eyes, calling them "unattractive".
|$27,696
|-
|''Howl''
|2010
|R
|Film about homosexual poet and [[beatnik]]-turned-[[hippie]], [[Allen Ginsberg]]. Promotes the [[homosexual agenda]] and the idea that writing about [[pornography]] is "protected" under the [[First Amendment]] and has "literary value".
|$617,334
|-
|''I Love You Phillip Morris''
|2010
|R
|A homosexuality-themed comedy-drama film about a homosexual inmate who escapes to reunite with his lover.
|$2,037,459
|-
|''[[Jackass]]: The Movie''
|2002
|R
|Essentially a montage of ridiculous stunts and pranks with no coherent story.
|$64,255,312
|-
|''Jennifer's Body''
|2009
|R
|This film starring Megan Fox promotes feminism and glorifies [[Satanism]], and contains a lesbian kiss and them making out.
|$16,204,793.
|-
|''Kids''
|1995
|NC-17
|Pornographic film concerning five rebellious underage teenagers in [[New York City]] engaging in graphic sex, violent acts, [[drug]]/[[alcohol]] use, and spreading [[HIV]].
|$7,412,216
|-
|''The Kids Are All Right''
|2010
|R
|Portrays homosexuality and homosexual parenting as a "normal" lifestyle.
|$20,811,365
|-
|''[[The Laramie Project]]''
|2002
|Unrated
|An adaptation of the play of the same name made by HBO to promote the homosexual agenda, including giving a one-sided, extremely biased perspective on the murder of Matthew Shepherd implying that his murderers had "homophobia" as a motive. It also has a significant anti-religious bent in it, where two of the documentarists (implied to be homosexual) tried to talk to a priest specifically to "piss him off," and also had one of the members breaking down from a priest being "hateful" simply because he implied the possibility that Matthew Shepherd will go to hell if he didn't repent for his homosexual activities.
|
|-
|''Legally Blonde''
|2001
|PG-13
|A pro-feminist musical that also promotes every aspect of the "valley girl" lifestyle. Smart people (such as those who go to law school) are described as "boring, ugly, serious people" by the father of Elle Woods (the film's protagonist). It also contains hidden demeaning remarks about dark-haired people. Spawned a sequel that, despite the patriotic-sounding title ("Red, White, and Blonde"), ultimately wasn't much better, which included a homosexual joke involving Elle Woods' pet chihuahua (despite the original film implying that said dog, who was male, was infatuated by the Taco Bell chihuahua mascot, a female).
|$96,520,674
|-
|''The Lost World: Jurassic Park''
|1997
|PG-13
|The film is pro-environmentalist, and features John Hammond, the original head of Jurassic Park, hiring environmentalist hippies to sabotage his own company in the name of releasing the dinosaurs back into the wild, with the protagonists being depicted as being in the right despite causing explicit destruction and death via their actions, as well as demonizing the corporation for trying to stop them. Also has an anti-hunting message due to one of the main antagonists explicitly being a hunter. It is to be noted that such a message not only was not present in the book it was adapted from, but it if anything was the complete antithesis to the anti-cloning message from both the original book by Michael Crichton and the 1993 film that adapted it and that ''Lost World'' acted as a sequel to.
|$618.6 million
|-
|''Léon: The Professional''
|1994
|R
|Disgusting film the features an assassin taking an orphan under his wing (even worse her family shows poor values and are nasty to each other). He then trains her to be an assassin herself to kill the corrupt DEA responsible for her parents murder, but also the assassin who's much older than her seems to be [[Pedophilia|romanticized by her]] (in a deleted scene they even have sex).
|$19,501,238
|-
|''Lethal Weapon 3''
|1992
|R
|Pro-gun control propaganda disguised as a buddy cop action film.
|$144,731,527
|-
|''Lethal Weapon 4''
|1998
|R
|The sequel now has a pro-illegal immigration message.
|$130,444,603
|-
|''Mad Max: Fury Road''
|2015
|R
|Feminist propaganda that endorses and celebrates anarchy. Also, it bears some "[[Plagiarism|similarities]]" to the John Wayne classic ''Stagecoach''. Fourth movie in the ''Mad Max'' film series first made famous by Mel Gibson in the title role between 1979 and 1985.
|$153,636,354
|-
|''Maleficent''
|2014
|PG
|Apparently represents the idea of revising the "Sleeping Beauty" story to focus on a lesbian relationship; although Aurora clearly loves Maleficent as a mother figure, Maleficent takes over the role of the prince and is revealed to be the person whose kiss of "true love" (given on the forehead) really saved Aurora. Unabashedly promotes the feminist agenda to the extent that most of the males are either villains or useless, even going so far as to heavily hint at a transgender philosophy; promotes hard-core environmentalism, moral relativism and even Marxism; pretty much ruins the morality tale for ''Sleeping Beauty''. ''The Federalist'' also had a field day with the film stating how it promoted the leftist agenda and citing point by point its agenda.<ref>https://thefederalist.com/2014/06/06/maleficent-once-upon-a-screed/</ref> In particular, King Stefan, far from being depicted as a good father who gave up Aurora to the three fairies to protect her from the curse, was shown to not care for Aurora at all and was willing to let her die from the curse.
|$241,410,378
|-
|''Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil''
|1997
|R
|Don't be fooled by the fact that Hollywood conservative, Clint Eastwood directed this film or that it both takes place and was filmed in the overall conservative city of Savannah, Georgia. It is based on the equally bad nonfiction novel of the same name, and has LGBT, environmentalist, witchcraft, and anti-capitalist themes.
|$25,105,255
|-
|''Moonlight''
|2016
|R
|A coming-of-age film that glorifies drug use and [[homosexuality]].
|$27,557,396 <ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=moonlight2016.htm</ref>
|-
|''Movie 43''
|2013
|R
|Anthology of short "comedy" films which glamorize virtually every form of deviant sexuality imaginable. Much of the "humor" is scatological, including a scene with a character who enjoys being defecated upon. Aside from that, ''Movie 43'' is literally one of the worst motion pictures ever made in history, as it has nothing that would make it good, imaginative, funny, charming, or understandable of its existence at all. Won three Razzie awards: Worst Picture, Worst Director (all directors) and Worst Screenplay (all screenwriters).
|$32.4 million
|-
|''Mulholland Drive''
|2001
|R
|The makers of this nonsensical art film think homosexuality and fornication in general are "sexy" societal norms.
|$7,220,243
|-
|''My Own Private Idaho''
|1991
|R
|Two homosexual street hustlers begin having an affair while seeking adventure en route to Idaho and then Italy. One of the more infamous cinematic examples of the homosexual agenda.
|$6,401,336
|-
|''Natural Born Killers''
|1994
|R
|Riddled with violence, drug abuse and sexual references, this movie's main characters are brutal serial killers who are viewed as "heroes". Infamously known for influencing Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold for committing the massacre at [[Columbine High School massacre]]<ref>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-columbine-shooters/</ref>
|$50,282,766
|-
|''The Normal Heart''
|2014
|TV MA
|Another [[homosexual agenda|homosexual propaganda]] film that criticizes the [[Reagan Administration]] and general Conservative ideology. The LGBT community was a strong promoter of this film and insists it is "artful", when really it is decadent.
|N/A
|-
|''Nymphomaniac''
|2014
|NR
|This two-part movie features four hours of non-stop sex and glamorizes the lifestyle of the titular sex addict. It portrays other [[San Francisco values]], such as homosexuality and S&M, in a positive light. In general, this film was labeled as NSFW. Director, Lars von Trier, is known for being anti-American and slightly hints at this throughout the film.
|$17,584,083
|-
|''The Odd Life of Timothy Green''
|2012
|PG
|Despite an overly schmaltzy pro-family sentiment, this film showcases terrible parenting.
|$55.3 million

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|''The Organizer''
|1963
|Not Rated
|This Italian film supports [[trade union]]s and [[infidelity]].
|
|-
|''Orgazmo''
|1997
|NC-17
|This pornographic nightmare celebrates the porn industry and criticizes [[Mormon]]s, if not all the world's religiously devout.
|$602,302
|-
|''Paul''
|2011
|R
|This extraterrestrial rescue mission could have been a harmless comedic tribute to the science fiction film genre if it didn't portray Christians and the military as close-minded idiots while depicting atheists (played by godless writers and co-stars Simon Pegg and Nick Frost) who support extramarital sex, homosexuality, and mind-altering drug use as the only "sensible" people. Pegg and Frost have explicitly stated that one of the movie's main messages is that "there is no God" and anyone who believes in Him is "an ignorant boob".
|$37,412,945
|-
|''The Perks of Being a Wallflower''
|2012
|PG-13
|Promotes homosexuality and also demonizes those opposed to a homosexual lifestyle.
|$17,738,570
|-
|''The People vs. Larry Flynt''
|1996
|R
|Idealizes [[pornography]] mogul [[Larry Flynt]] and claims that pornography is "protected" by the [[First Amendment]].
|$20,300,385
|-
|''Philadelphia''
|1993
|PG-13
|Homosexual agenda setting drama.
|$77,446,440
|-
|''Pineapple Express''
|2008
|R
|Shows [[drug abuse]] to be "cool".
|$87,341,380
|-
|''Pink Flamingos''
|1972
|NC-17
|Embraces horrifying people, who engage in such acts as [[incest]] and [[bestiality]], as well as promoting the homosexual agenda, since it stars transvestite Divine and shows homosexuals in a positive light. This film has toilet humor, finding it funny when a character (Divine) literally eats poo, and extremely offensive language, one character is even named after a racial slur against white people. Characters promote anarchy and violence as an everyday thing. A very graphic film, even for most liberals, showing close-ups of genitalia unlike any non-porno film. Liberals call it a "comedy", but it is revoltingly horrid and more like an act of [[Satan]].
|$7,000,000
|-
|''Project X''
|2012
|R
|Shows teen drinking, [[drug]] use, sex, vulgar profanity and anarchic behavior to be "cool".
|$54,731,865
|-
|''The Quick and the Dead''
|1995
|R
|A feminist western.
|$18,636,537
|-
|''Quills''
|2000
|R
|Portrays the Marquis de Sade as the protagonist, in addition to the prevalence of extremely violent acts.
|$11,732,088
|-
|''Resident Evil'' franchise
|2002-2017
|R
|Feminist film franchise with anti-capitalistic messages. Based on a video game franchise on the same name. The worst offender is ''Resident Evil: The Final Chapter'', where the villain is a [[Christian]] who releases a deadly virus (called the T-virus) which will destroy the human race and have him and rich colleagues rebuild the world in their image (a.k.a playing [[God]]).
|$244,443,938 (all together)
|-
|''Rise of the Planet of the Apes''
|2011
|PG-13
|Anti-business (the company the main character works for is painted in an extremely negative light), a lot of environmentalism throughout (including a more anti-human agenda being pushed), and the actor who played Caesar, Andy Serkis, as well as director Rupert Wyatt, both compared Caesar positively to the Marxist Argentinian revolutionary terrorist and mass murderer [[Che Guevara]].
|$481,801,049
|-
|''Rent''
|2005
|PG-13
|Promotes [[homosexuality]] and cross-dressing as "normal" lifestyles.
|$29,077,547
|-
|''Rock of Ages''
|2012
|PG-13 (Director's Cut is rated R)
|Based on the highly unoriginal and unimaginative Broadway musical, ''Rock of Ages'' features poor [[moral]]s, promotes homosexual agenda, prostitution, drug use, and drinking, and portrays conservatives in a negative, offensively bigoted viewpoint. Many gratuitous sex scenes and sexual references are prominently shown.
|$38,518,613
|-
|''Salo: Or the 120 Days of Sodom''
|1975
|NR
|Adaptation of the [[sadist]] and [[Libertine]] and atheistic text by [[Marquis de Sade]] from Communist homosexual filmmaker Pier Paolo Pasolini, who was killed shortly after completing this movie.
|
|-
|''Sex and the City''
|2008
|R
|Very disturbing film, much like its TV series counterpart, promoting the use of sex everywhere.
|$152,647,258.
|-
|''Sex Tape''
|2014
|R
|Anti-family. The main premise of the film was two nymphomaniacs trying to create a sex tape of themselves after getting kids killed their sex drive, and then recovering iPods that accidentally uploaded their tape online for everyone to see. The ending also has brief yet graphic sex scene showing what exactly was on the sex tape.
|$38,543,473
|-
|''Shakespeare in Love''
|1998
|R
|Liberals changing history in order to suit feminists. The film also suggests that a woman was responsible for William Shakespeare's work (even though there's no record of this at all). Although it won the Academy Award for Best Picture of 1998 (thanks to the aggressive campaign tactics of the egotistical producer Harvey Weinstein), the film has aged poorly and, to this day, the overwhelming majority of critics and film viewers believe that the conservative film and Steven Spielberg's masterpiece ''Saving Private Ryan'' should have won instead.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SrNphaLsDs</ref>
|$100,317,794 
|-
|''The Shape of Water''
|2017
|R
|Disgusting pro-Bestiality and Feminist movie directed by Marxist film director Guillermo del Toro. Also encourages homosexuality and has hints of promoting illegal immigration.
|$54,185,844
|-
|''She Hate Me''
|2004
|R
|Taking jabs at capitalism and supporting the [[homosexual agenda]], this film has a very over the top plot were a man who's laid off from his job for exposing corrupt business practices, turns to impregnating wealthy lesbians for profit. (This really is the plot).
|$366,037
|-
|''Small Soldiers''
|1998
|PG-13
|Anti-military (due to the Commando Elite being depicted in a negative manner, and to a certain extent GloboTech, the ones responsible for the bad events in the film, being stated to be a Defense Contractor) and also anti-Capitalist (due to GloboTech being the ones responsible for the events of the film, including buying out the Heartland Toy Company.).
|$71.1 million
|-
|''The Social Network''
|2010
|PG-13
|Glorifies the [[gossip]] website [[Facebook]], which feeds [[narcissism]] and destroys marriages. The film also portrays drug use and [[misogyny]] in a positive light.
|$96,962,694
|-
|''Spring Breakers''
|2012
|R
|From the creator of ''Kids'', this film is similar in its pornographic nature and glamorization of drug abuse, only this film takes it to a new extreme. Furthermore, this film promotes [[feminism]] and glamorizes the gangster/[[ghetto]] [[rap music]] lifestyle, while condemning Christians, labeling them as "weak" and "insecure". Also, the film contains a full-on sex scene in the pool, and show nudity, in not only that scene but several others.
|$31,724,284
|-
|''Star Trek Beyond''
|2016
|PG-13
|The film has [[Sulu|Hikaru Sulu]] as a "married" homosexual with an adopted daughter, which was a decision that even [[George Takei]] (Sulu's original actor and a prominent homosexual activist) took issue with.<ref>http://time.com/4398071/george-takei-simon-pegg-sulu-gay-star-trek-beyond/</ref>
|$343.5 million
|-
|''The Stepford Wives''
|1975
|R
|[[Feminist]] [[polemic]]. Ends with the protagonist beating her husband with an iron fireplace poker. The film's release coincided with the height of the [[ERA]] movement.
|$4 million
|-
|''Stonewall''
|2015
|R
|Based on the 1969 Stonewall Riots, this film is a pro-homosexual film that pushes the homosexual agenda. It's rather ironic to note that the film, itself, is a victim of historical revisionism, offensive racial stereotypes, and exclusion of the representation of minorities. While the filmmakers tried to defend their artistic decisions, the film was overwhelmingly criticized by critics and audiences (even liberals, not surprisingly, hated the film) and failed to make its play for awards consideration during the 2015 Oscar season.
|$187,674
|-
|''Straight Outta Compton''
|2015
|R
|Glorifies the gangster lifestyle and gangster rap, and portrays the police as racist, along with other anti-police aspects.
|$161,197,785
|-
|''Superbad''
|2007
|R
|Promotes the teenage use of drugs, smoking, alcohol and sex. The whole point of the movie is for a couple of guys to lose their virginity. The movie contains many uses of profanity, underage drinking, and drug use.
|$121,463,226
|-
|''Taking Woodstock''
|2009
|R
|Glorifies the anarchistic and chaotic Woodstock festival in 1969 as well as the Hippie Movement, painting their various lewd actions, including homosexuality, in a positive light. Also has some elements of anti-Semitism due to the main character's parents who acted as Holocaust survivors being portrayed in an unsympathetic light.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2009/08/28/taking-woodstock-mythologizing-the-worst-generation/</ref>
|$10 million
|-
|''Tammy''
|2014
|R
|Movie about a lazy unemployed woman who after losing her job, basically turns to a life of crime. As the film is about her and her grandma hitting the road, committing robberies, doing illegal prescription drugs, and buying beers for teenagers. They have a Fourth of July party with no typical festivities, and is more like a drunken sex party, as the grandma reveals her breasts to the guest (the audience does not see them though).
|$84,525,432
|-
|''Tank Girl''
|1995
|R
|Based on the left-wing comic, this film glorifies feminism and debauchery while making the capitalists the bad guys.
|$4,064,495
|-
|''That's My Boy''
|2012
|R (originally NC-17)
|Depicts pedophilia, statutory rape, gerontophilia, child neglect, incest, and other forms of aberrant sexuality as "funny".
|$57.7 million
|-
|''There's Something About Mary''
|1998
|R
|Contains gratuitous sex and jokes about bodily functions.
|$176,484,651
|-
|''To Find a Man''
|1972
|
|Pretty much a 90-minute abortion propaganda film.
|
|-
|''Trash H*****s''
|2010
|NR
|Shows decadent behavior in a positive light and glamorizes sexual deviancy. Also the film is riddled with profanity, even the title has a naughty word (which was censored here).
|
|-
|''Uncle Sam''
|1996
|R
|Depicts the heroes as a jaded amputated war veteran and a draft dodger, and the main villain as an extremely sociopathic soldier who joined the Army to kill as many people as he wanted, and the latter is depicted as being hyper-patriotic.
|$2,000,000
|-
|''Under the Same Moon (La Misma Luna)''
|2007
|PG-13
|Baselessly supports illegal immigration despite a pro-family sentiment.
|$23,311,391
|-
|''Up In Smoke''
|1978
|R
|Stoner film that just promotes the use of smoking marijuana.
|$44,364,244
|-
|''Waterworld''
|1995
|PG-13
|Suggests that "[[global warming]]" was real, and the Earth has now become a flooded post-apocalyptic wasteland.
|$88,246,220
|-
|''The Wolf of Wall Street''
|2013
|R
|Blatantly promotes excessive, endless drug use, portraying it in a positive light, and claiming that illegal drugs such as heroin give people the will to keep working hard and stay focused and positive, as well as various forms of graphic and illicit sexual activity and voyeurism, (both heterosexual and in one scene, homosexual) and non-stop use of the f-word and hundreds of other profanities throughout. Portrays capitalists on [[Wall Street]] as greedy self-absorbed criminals obsessed with sex, drugs and violence in the form of the protagonist Jordan Belfort. Many audiences were shocked that this did not receive an NC-17 rating upon its release, especially since morality-deprived director [[Martin Scorsese]] broke the ''[[South Park]]'' movie's record for most uses of the F-word with his film. Christina McDowell, the daughter of Tom Prousalis, one of the people involved in Belfort's crimes, wrote a memoir on the subject specifically to call out Scorsese and DiCaprio for failing to recognize the victims of Belfort in the film, something even the most praiseworthy critics of the film admitted was a flaw.
|$116,900,694
|-
|''A Wrinkle in Time''
|2018
|PG
|A live action adaptation of the book of the same name by Disney, the film managed to completely cut out many references to Jesus Christ and biblical verses, as well as completely altered the joyous singing to remove any reference to God.<ref>https://pjmedia.com/faith/disneys-wrinkle-time-erases-books-bible-quotes-cuts-jesus-christian-figures-history/</ref> Needless to say, it opened to a box office bomb.<ref>https://movieweb.com/a-wrinkle-in-time-movie-review-2018/</ref>
|$132.6 million
|-
|''W.R.: Mystery of the Organism''
|1971
|NR
|Essentially a plotless film riddled with disgusting orgies.
|
|-
|''X-Men'' trilogy
|2000-2018
|PG-13 (R for Deadpool & Deadpool 2)
|Unlike the comics they're based on (which were about civil rights)<ref>https://www.nuskool.com/learn/lesson/mlk-and-malcolm-x-the-civil-rights-movement-and-the-x-men-origins/</ref> liberals used this movie franchise to further the [[homosexual agenda]]<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T543J2L-gXU</ref><ref>http://www.cracked.com/article_20497_5-great-movies-with-mind-blowing-symbolism-you-didnt-notice.html</ref> Bryan Singer director of four of the films (whom is also homosexual) was also cited for sexual assault of a minor.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/18/business/media/in-lawsuit-director-of-new-x-men-film-is-accused-of-sexual-assault.html?rref=homepage&_r=0</ref> And the sexual abuse has continued to this day especially with the various similar scandals that came out in Hollywood starting with Harvey Weinstein.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/11/08/usc-taking-student-petition-remove-bryan-singers-name-cinema-school-seriously/</ref> Likewise, it was noted that Singer during filming for the first movie did not allow for the comics to be on the set, despite the film being based on them.<ref>http://fourcolormedmon.blogspot.com/2017/11/3-filmmakers-working-on-comics-projects.html</ref> It was also anti-Military, especially in the second film and to some extent X-Men Origins: Wolverine, as the main villain, William Stryker, was the head of a para-military group and depicted as very genocidal against mutants, and was also implied to be a Vietnam War veteran. This had been added in by screenwriter David Hayter, due to his experiences with the ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' series.
|$1,817,894,919 (all together)
|-
|}

==Animated films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''Alpha and Omega''
|2010
|PG
|This animated film about wolves promotes disorderly conduct based on the zany antics of an omega wolf named Humphrey. It can be seen as pro-environmentalist as well because some members of the wolf pack try to start eating berries as opposed to caribou, despite wolves being natural carnivores. Alpha wolves are painted in an elitist light for being determined and hard workers. One female wolf named Kate can be described as a modern feminist. Similarly to the other liberal film, ''Open Season'', it spawned multiple unneeded direct-to-video sequels. It is also somewhat comparable to the other liberal film called ''Barnyard: The Original Party Animals'', only in that movie's case, it had a subsequent television series called ''Back at the Barnyard'' as opposed to film sequels.
|$25,107,267
|-
|''The Ant Bully''
|2006
|PG
|This pro-Communist film's main message of the power of the individual to be more powerful than one another is a bad thing. The exterminator, apparently the main antagonist, is vilified for simply doing his job, thus giving the animation an environmentalist message.
|$28,142,535
|-
|''Astro Boy''
|2009
|PG
|Based loosely on the 1952 manga and 1963 anime, liberal producers and writers twisted the cartoon to fit their [[Communist]] agenda.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Jqlxd7ufM</ref> This strategy backfired, however, and the film was a critical failure.<ref>http://www.cartoonbrew.com/feature-film/astro-boys-abysmal-opening-and-imagis-sinking-ship-17586.html</ref>
|$19,551,067
|-
|''Barnyard: The Original Party Animals''
|2006
|PG
|Set on a barnyard where animals speak and behave like humans in the absence of real humans, this ''Lion King'' clone stars a bull who witnesses his father die after being wounded by coyotes, then gradually accepts the responsibilities that come with being the leader of his animal community. Nevertheless, ''Barnyard'' accepts disorderly conduct because the animals still party recklessly, even with a serious, dedicated bull in charge. Plus, it portrays humans as either ignorant or stupid and persecutes coyotes for being carnivores. The neurotic ferret Freddy goes to liberal lengths to avoid temptation to eat his rooster friend by becoming a [[vegetarianism|vegetarian]]. Not only that, but the bulls lack horns and have female udders, and there are brief scenes referencing alcohol and gambling.
|$116,500,000
|-
|''Battle for Terra''
|2007
|PG
|This animation has environmentalist overtones and portrays a Bible-quoting, American-esque military general as the main antagonist.
|$1,647,083
|-
|''Brave''
|2012
|PG
|One of Pixar's less memorable animations stars Merida, a feminist Medieval Scottish princess who refuses to marry, believing it will cause her to lose her life of archery and adventure, thus demonstrating poor family values throughout. Of course, because this is a feminist propaganda piece, the men in the film are oafish compared to the women, too. Egregiously, Merida was added to the Disney Princess lineup regardless of the poor morals she demonstrates throughout the film and being created by Pixar, not by Disney directly.
|$540.4 million
|-
|''Cars 2''
|2011
|G
|This Pixar sequel demonizes oil companies while aggrandizing ethanol (mentioned as Allinall). On the film's political agenda, director John Lasseter commented: "Why isn't alternative fuel more... Why isn't everybody jumping on that bandwagon? It makes so much sense: Electricity, solar, whatever. There's ethanol. There's all this stuff you could be doing. And so I thought, well, that could be really cool in that you could have big oil versus alternative fuel. That's when we kind of crafted the bad guy's story."
|$191,450,875
|-
|''Chicken Little''
|2005
|G
|This painfully unoriginal animation, which was adapted from a 1943 World War II propaganda short by conservative filmmaker Walt Disney (which was itself adapted from one of Aesop's fables), ridicules family values, especially when the title chicken's widower father, Buck "Ace" Cluck, is shown to be willing to disown his son. Later on, when the aliens proceed to attempt to invade and detonate Earth, it is simply because they thought it is a living organism that kidnapped one of their children. The film is borderline nihilistic because the townspeople are mean-spirited and frequently bully Chicken Little, and a brief gag implies that warping someone's mind against their will is acceptable. As one of the worst theatrical productions ever made by the Walt Disney Company under [[Michael Eisner]], the film's mean-spirited and deeply cynical plot line is suspected to have been done to compete with [[DreamWorks]] animated films helmed by [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]].
|$135,386,665
|-
|''Delgo''
|2008
|PG
|This pagan film has horrible scenes of violence, war, and mass murder. It performed so horribly at the box office that it was criticized for potentially traumatizing young children and was pulled from theaters after a week. It is currently the lowest-grossing computer animated film of all time.
|$694,782
|-
|''The Emoji Movie''
|2017
|PG (Should be PG-13 for multiple references to the dreaded S-word in profanity)
|Not only is this film clearly an infomercial for various smartphone applications and features thinly disguised as an unoriginal take on the "hero's journey" story archetype, but it appears to devalue human language: main teenager Alex can only win over his crush by communicating via text messages comprised exclusively of emojis, and a background teenager even says, "Words aren't cool". Openly homosexual writer and director Anthony "Tony" Leondis considers the movie a deeply personal project for him: the main character is a sentient emoji who is different from his friends with his ability to show multiple expressions, which reflects Leondis' laughable belief that he is an outcast when, in reality, Hollywood praises that sort of sinful sexuality. The film briefly glorifies [[Facebook]], the world's largest social network and a hotbed for narcissism and relationship destruction; gives minor lip service to feminism in the form of Jailbreak, a computer hacker girl emoji who refuses to be the princess emoji she was created to be; and has been unfavorably compared to ''Wreck-It Ralph'' and ''Inside Out'', two great conservative animations, plus the ambiguously conservative ''LEGO Movie''.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydvQB-4bBfQ</ref> Worst of all, TJ Miller, who voices the lead emoji, once said the film is a subtle protest against [[Donald Trump]] based on allegations that Trump wants to censor Hollywood and other liberally biased media.
|$25,650,000
|-
|''FernGully: The Last Rainforest''
|1992
|G
|Environmental [[propaganda]], with an anti-industry message, is indoctrinated into children.
|$24,650,296
|-
|''Food Fight''
|2012
|PG
|Aside from being considered one of the worst computer animated films, the film vilifies capitalism and leading companies.
|N/A
|-
|''Free Birds''
|2013
|PG
|This animated film's main premise is about taking turkey off of the Thanksgiving menu.
|$55,750,480
|-
|''Gnomeo and Juliet''
|2011
|PG
|This disturbing love story contains a joke that could be interpreted as passing off bestiality (in this case, with a garden gnome, which is normally an ''inanimate object'') as funny.
|$194 million
|-
|''Happy Feet''
|2006
|PG
|This environmentalist film pushes the envelope to some extent with sexual humor and implied persecution against Christians.<ref name="6 Kids Films Filled with Green Propaganda">https://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2014/3/22/6-kids-films-filled-with-green-propaganda/2/</ref>
|$198,000,317
|-
|''Happy Feet 2''
|2011
|PG
|Like the first ''Happy Feet'', it does not push the envelope too much as far as sexual humor goes, but it goes even further with themes of environmentalism as it pushes the global warming agenda. Staunch liberal actors Matt Damon and Brad Pitt voice two krill who are implied to be homosexual.<ref name="6 Kids Films Filled with Green Propaganda" />
|$64,006,466
|-
|''Home''
|2015
|PG
|Contains environmental, illegal immigration messages, and somewhat supports the homosexual agenda as well.
|$177,397,510
|-
|''The Hunchback of Notre Dame''
|1996
|G
|Released during liberal maniac [[Michael Eisner]]'s reign of terror at Disney, the film does everything in its power to persecute Christians. The original source material was not intended for children, yet the Disney film was marketed as such to young audiences. In some cases, the film actually manages to be even more darker than the original book by Victor Hugo: originally, Quasimodo's vicious punishment at the hands of the Parisians during the Feast of Fools ceremony was out of corporal punishment; while in the Disney film, it had been done at the whim of the Parisians just for the sake of it. To make the film even darker, a gypsy genocide plot is introduced, and Paris was also the victim of arson late into the film. This is a stark contrast to most other Disney film adaptations, which have a history of toning down the original works (as in ''The Jungle Book'', in which Disney advised the writers to ignore the book specifically because its contents were unsuitable for children). Even worse, the DVD commentary for the film boasted that they deliberately had the villain, Judge Claude Frollo, when symbolically falling to hell in "Hellfire", assuming the pose of the crucifix.<ref>DVD Commentary: "Here's some more of our ham-fisted symbolism--Frollo falls down in the shape of a crucifix!"</ref> Some mild language is present, too (namely the word "damnation" and "eternal damnation"). Worst of all, one of the male gargoyles falls in love with Djali, who is explicitly male, which means that liberals will subtly shoehorn the homosexual agenda into anything, even the gargoyles of Notre Dame. There is also a bit of forced diversity in the movie as well, as Esmerelda is altered to be a full Gypsy by birth (in the original book, she was in fact ethnically French, the daughter of a French anchoress, and had been abducted by gypsies and raised by them).
|$100,138,851
|-
|The Legend of Frosty the Snowman
|2005
|Not Rated
|This film is a bastardization of the original [[Frosty the Snowman]] special in which it retcons almost everything to push an anti-comformity message and presents youth rebellion in a positive light.
|
|-
|''The Legend of the Titanic''
|1999
|Not Rated
|This animation bastardizes a horrific, tragic historical event in the name of making a statement against the whaling industry.
|
|-
|''Mars Needs Moms''
|2011
|PG
|A 9-year-old boy named Milo defies his mother, behaves in disorderly conduct, and is somewhat nihilistic. Family values are poked fun at. It also has a brief scene poking fun at the great conservative leader, [[Ronald Reagan]].
|$39 million
|-
|''My Little Pony: The Movie''
|2017
|G
|Based on the bad [[anime]]-influenced liberal television series ''My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic'', this unnecessary film has the same liberal messages, relating to witchcraft, feminism, socialism, and environmentalism.
|$21,885,107
|-
|''Norm of the North''
|2016
|PG
|This poorly-received animation makes an environmentalist polar bear the hero and vilifies major businesses in the form of a greedy real estate mogul in a possible jab at Donald Trump.
|$24.8 million
|-
|''The Nut Job''
|2014
|PG
|An incorrigibly self-serving exiled squirrel finds himself helping his former park creatures survive by raiding a nut store, which celebrates disorderly conduct, nonconformity, and environmentalism. One of the antagonists is a head businessman because he does not comply with environmentalism.
|$64,251,541
|-
|''The Nut Job 2: Nutty by Nature''
|2017
|PG
|In the sequel to ''The Nut Job'', the businessman villain returns to try to build an amusement park, again persecuted for not being an environmentalist.
|$26,989,904 (Still in Theaters)
|-
|''Open Season''
|2006
|PG
|Although conservative star Gary Sinise appears, environmentalism and hate speech against hunters runs rampant.
|$85,105,259
|-
|''Over the Hedge''
|2006
|PG
|Based upon the comic strip of the same name, animals who are struggling to steal food from trash for the winter are the heroes, while humans are painted as ignorant, uncaring towards animals (clearly an environmentalist message), and obsessed with food. Plus, a businesswoman is the main antagonist, and an exterminator is scorned for simply doing his job. In addition, one of the other main antagonists of the film (and the only animal main antagonist), Vincent the Bear, is villainized for forcing RJ the Raccoon to replace the food he had after the latter in a botched attempt to steal food that Vincent had hoarded for the winter ended up accidentally destroying the food stash, with an ad-libbed scene in the climax having Vincent admit that he got where he was by "backstabbing, betraying, and murdering" those that placed trust in him, which can be interpreted as a dig against Capitalism and the concept of private property.
|$155,019,340
|-
|''ParaNorman''
|2012
|PG
|The very ending of the film pulls a swerve and reveals that one of the characters, Mitch Downe, as being homosexual, ignoring the fact that he was not even implied to be that earlier. This decision had been made by the director Chris Butler.
|$107.1 million
|-
|''Peter Rabbit''
|2018
|G
|The movie was a complete trashing of the popular British children's book series of the same name, promoting environmentalism by having the rightful owner of the farm, Thomas MacGregor, be vilified simply for trying to farm the vegetable garden that legally belonged to him, and the various farm animals being portrayed positively in interfering with his business, with one of their plans against MacGregor even going so far as to have Peter Rabbit murder him by exploiting a food allergy that he had and it being treated in a positive manner. It was such that even the liberal website [[TV Tropes]] grudgingly acknowledged under the articles "Unintentionally Sympathetic" and "Unintentionally Unsympathetic" that Thomas was closer to being in the right than Peter and his friends were.
|$146,983,492
|-
|''Pocahontas''
|1995
|G
|This feminist story follows a highly fictionalized account of the life of [[Native American]] [[Pocahontas]] with an environmental message; and the Native American’s view against English settlers is a similar to Howard Zinn's revisionist history textbook ''A People's History of the United States'', which would entered public knowledge and provided to universities, colleges, and high schools across America two years later (see ''Good Will Hunting''). The titular character enters what is implied to be an unfaithful relationship with John Smith over fellow Native American Kokoum, and her decision is treated in a comparatively positive light; while the English settlers are vilified simply for establishing the early American colonies to find Jamestown, and John Ratcliffe in particular was demonized as having the motive of trying to establish a gold mine and being greedy, despite gold never being the motive for Ratcliffe, which could be interpreted as a dig against capitalism. Following the Best Picture nomination of ''Beauty and the Beast'' at the 64th Academy Awards and its subsequent loss in March 1992, then-studio chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg opted to produce another animated sweeping romantic epic in hopes of achieving a cinematic masterpiece status and replicating another Best Picture nomination, even if he intended to distort history and add both a love story and environmental themes. In fact, many people at Disney had high hopes for ''Pocahontas'', while deeming the concept of another film in production, ''The Lion King'' as experimental. To their surprise, ''The Lion King'' became one of the greatest animated motion pictures of all time, while ''Pocahontas'' received mixed critical reviews and below-than-expected box office receipts.
|$141,579,773
|-
|''Pokémon: Zoroark - Master of Illusions''
|2010 (Japan); 2011 (America)
|G
|The anime film's villain is a successful businessman, which is a statement against capitalism, and one of the main protagonists of the film, Karl (perhaps named for [[Karl Marx]]), is based on the radical left-wing schlockumentarian Michael Moore.<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20130122121711/http://www.gamefreak.co.jp/blog/art/wp-content/images/1008/kuruto.jpg</ref>
|
|-
|''Princess Mononoke''
|1997
|PG-13
|Environmentalist, feminist anime film on on steroids, where the forest gods are at war with a mining colony (whom are portrayed as the "bad guys").
|$2,375,308
|-
|''Quest for Camelot''
|1998
|G
|This revisionist take on Arthurian legend throws everything that makes the source material great (Christianity, heroism, bravery, etc.) out the window for the sake of advocating feminism and wanting to be a Disney animated musical film, only to be panned by critics in the end. Even though it's suppose to a G-rated family comedy, an incest joke appears as well.<ref>https://www.imdb.com/character/ch0100869/quotes</ref>
|$22,510,798
|-
|''Sausage Party''
|2016
|R
|As the first R-rated American animated film to be released by a major film studio in the United States following 1999's ''South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut'', ''Sausage Party'' blatantly criticizes religion and deceives audiences into think that, without religion and the existence of God, everyone can enjoy the most selfish, crude, and debauched activities (e.g. humanism, homosexuality, obscenity, and non-stop sexual intercourse) without guilt or a sense of a "religious obligation". Made by Nitrogen Studios. A typical offensive and raunchy comedy film by modern Hollywood standards, directors Conrad Vernon and Greg Tiernan, producer Megan Ellison, producer/writer Evan Goldberg, and producer/writer/actor Seth Rogen (all of them fiercely liberal and some, ironically, of Jewish origin) made this film to bastardize the animation genre, as well as to push the liberal Hollywood agenda on politics and religion. Animated feature films, for the past century, have enthralled and enhanced audiences around the world, as the best ones tell timely stories that children, teenagers, and adults alike can relate to and enjoy. The makers of ''Sausage Party'' seemed to not care about any of this, as they made this untimely film strictly for adults, as they believed that there aren't and should be any animated films for adults only to enjoy. Their warped belief is made very clear by the film's criticism and parody of many other animated films (namely Disney animations) as well as the presence of regular Disney collaborator Alan Menken as the film's songwriter. Altogether, ''Sausage Party'' is painfully unfunny and has virtually no plot or philosophical merit. Upon release, only liberally biased film critics praised the film, while general audiences were repulsed by it.

On a side note, ''Sausage Party'' has attracted a great deal of criticism on two additional issues. First, the animators worked under poor, cruel conditions and were forced by the directors to work overtime without pay. Thirty-six of the 83 animators were blacklisted and went uncredited in the film, believed to be due to their complaints; comments made in anonymous interviews of some of the animators involved in the project by ''Variety'', ''The Washington Post'', and ''The Hollywood Reporter'' alleged that the comments were accurate. All the animators in the film were told outright that they would be blacklisted if they did not work overtime without pay. Second, a red-band trailer for the film was accidentally played before a showing of the Walt Disney Pictures/Pixar Animation Studios' PG-rated and family-oriented ''Finding Dory'', at a Concord, California multiplex in mid-June 2016.<ref>http://ew.com/article/2016/06/29/theater-plays-sausage-party-trailer-before-finding-dory-apologizes/</ref> The theater staff had forgotten to switch out an adult-audience trailer roll for one meant for G and PG-rated films, when adding additional screens to carry ''Finding Dory'' to meet audience demand. The incident occurred only once, and the theater apologized, while Rogen [[Twitter|tweeted]] that the story "made his day".
|$89,645,124
|-
|''The Secret World of Arrietty''
|2010
|G
|Japanese anime film is about a tiny homeless family that steals from regular people. Demonizes capitalism and promotes redistribution of wealth.
|$19,202,743
|-
|''[[Shark Tale]]''
|2004
|PG
|Promotes multiculturalism and the deuteragonist of the film is a great white shark who is a vegetarian. Besides for being pro-vegan it is also a metaphor for being homosexual.<ref>http://gaylife.about.com/od/moviestheatre/a/sharktale.htm</ref>
|$160,861,908
|-
|''South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut''
|1999
|R
|A disgusting celebration of [[obscenity]]. Also contains a sacrilegious depiction of the afterlife, with both heaven and hell portrayed as hedonistic paradises.
|$83,137,603
|-
|''Tax the Rich: An Animated Fairytale''
|2012
|N/A
|An animated film written by [[Fred Glass]], narrated by [[Ed Asner]], and made for the California Federation of Teachers. It repeated rhetoric made by the [[Occupy Wall Street]] group about taxing the rich to have "their fair share" and demonized Capitalism in various ways, including blaming it on Asian sweatshops as well as the housing bubble bursting in 2008. [[Kirsten Powers]], a member of [[The Daily Beast]], and herself no stranger to liberal politics, acknowledged alongside conservative economist for ''The Daily Caller'' Tucker Carson on the Sean Hannity show that the cartoon was simply inexcusable and disgusting, with Sean Hannity also explicitly referring to it as a "disgusting hit piece".<ref>https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sean-hannity-slams-ed-asner-398102</ref><ref>http://reagancoalition.com/articles/2012/20121206006-ca-union-class.html</ref> The film was particularly infamous for a scene where, in a segment covering the trickle-down effect, a corpulent rich man representing the 1% of wealthy Americans, after having the scales literally stacked up in his favor regarding money, upon being asked why the 1% needed so much money, he responded "Don't worry, this is good for you too, it will trickle down from us to you", with the latter statement being accompanied with a graphic of the rich man proceeding to urinate on the other ordinary people as they yell in protest. Although later versions freeze the footage just before the man pees on the crowd in response to the complaints about the scene, it was still implied by residual audio of the urine stream. Sean Hannety and Michelle Malkin of the Sean Hannety Show both expressed disgust with the video when covering it, and when one of the producers confronted Ed Asner as the latter was about to attend one of his roles at a play, the latter falsely claimed he didn't remember what he said on it, and also claimed that the bit about rich people peeing on poor people was disgusting only because it should have been in reverse, and then asked the producer if he had any money, and if so, if he should "p*** on [the producer]."<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr1ZzsAzq_M</ref>
|N/A
|-
|''A Troll in Central Park''
|1994
|G
|Considered by many to be Don Bluth's worst film,
|$71,368
|-
|}

==Schlockumentaries==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''[[The 11th Hour]]''
|2007
|PG
|This environmental schlockumentary produced and narrated by actor [[Leonardo DiCaprio]] endorses the theory of [[Anthropogenic global warming]].
|$707,343
|-
|Almost any film directed by [[Michael Moore]]
|
|
|All of his "documentaries" are composed of left-wing propaganda, promoting concepts such as universal health care, socialism, anti-Capitalist views, and gun control, and if that's not enough, he blatantly skews facts to push his agenda.
|
|-
|''[[An Inconvenient Truth]]''
|2006
|PG
|[[Al Gore]]'s [[global warming]] alarmist [[schlockumentary]].
|$24,146,161
|-
|''An Inconvenient Sequel: Truth to Power''
|2017
|PG
|Unanswered sequel to Al Gore's 2006 schlockumentary, ''An Inconvenient Truth''.
|
|-
|''Arctic Tale''
|2007
|G
|A documentary film geared towards children that pushes the false narrative of global warming and polar bears going extinct from melting ice caps.
|$1,858,064
|-
|''Better This World''
|2011
|Not Rated
|2011 documentary "feature length lie" is a [[PBS]] film regarding the thwarted domestic terrorist attack at the 2008 [[Republican National Convention]] and liberals attempt to re-write history.
|NA-TV
|-
|''Blackfish''
|2013
|PG-13
|A [[CNN]] documentary film about the captivity of Tilikum, an orca involved in the deaths of three individuals, and the consequences of keeping orcas in captivity, that is nothing but a propaganda film full of so many lies.<ref>https://seaworldcares.com/the-facts/truth-about-blackfish/</ref> The film gained high ratings on movie review websites, making it seem the film brainwashes critics.
|$2,073,582
|-
|''[[Bowling for Columbine]]''
|2002
|R
|A 2002 schlockumentary directed by and starring [[leftist]] propagandist Michael Moore. It is a pro-[[gun control]] film and distorts facts in favor of gun-grabbing. Also included a "Brief history of the USA" segment using animation mirroring that of [[South Park]], that distorted historical facts to make it seem as though guns were implemented by racists, which actually led to the South Park [[libertarian]] creators to condemn him, enough to give Moore a cameo in Team America as a suicide bomber and make his death especially graphic.
|$21,576,018
|-
|Cosmos: A SpaceTime Odyssey
|2014
|TV-PG
|Darwinism and global warming alarmism are disguised as science.
|N/A
|-
|''Fahrenheit 11/9''
|2018
|R
| [[Donald Trump]] hit piece by none other than Michael Moore. Trump got the last laugh as it ended up flopping at the box office <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2HyTh_6iyA</ref>
|-
|''The God Who Wasn't There'
|2005
|NR
|This documentary by noted skeptic [[Brian Flemming]] attempts to reinforce the massive wave of atheist propaganda from the internet.
|
|-
|''[[Jesus Camp]]''
|2006
|PG-13
|This baseless attack on conservative Christianity later incited [[liberal vandalism]] of the Bible camp shown in the film.
|$902,544
|-
|''Hearts and Minds''
|1974
|Not Rated
|A documentary about the Vietnam War that was inherently anti-American in its nature. Also, depicts [[Catholic]]s as bigots. It also had a brief clip at the beginning which had the rolling crew having one of the higher officers forced to talk to them with the false promise that they'd burn the tape once he is finished with it. It also has several moments of graphic sex between soldiers and Vietnamese prostitutes. It also implies throughout the film that several atrocities conducted by the North Vietnamese communists were done by Americans, including the footage where a girl ends up burned by [[napalm]] and running out naked. Noteworthy for being almost single-handedly responsible for forcing America out of Vietnam (even having the NVA mailing the producers thanking them for "ensuring peace" in Vietnam) as well as it being an influence for far-left schlockumentarist/propagandist Michael Moore, with some of its filming techniques even being reused for ''Farenheit 9/11''.
|Unknown
|-
|''Inside Job''
|2010
|PG-13
|Democrat donor Charles Ferguson blames the Great Recession of 2008 on Wall Street, unspecified deregulations, the Bush Administration, and so on. He whitewashes [[Fannie Mae]] and [[Freddie Mac]]'s role and virtually eschews any mention of the Community Reinvestment Act. While advertised as nonpartisan, it contains various interviews with Democratic politicians but none with Republican politicians. Finally, Ferguson blames the financial system for corrupting American politics.
|$4,312,735
|-
|''[[Loose Change 9/11: An American Coup]]''
|2009
|
|[[Truthers]] Dylan Avery and Korey Rowe blame America for [[9/11]]. Conspiracy Theorist [[Alex Jones]] worked as Executive Producer (and don't let his paleoconservative/libertarian views fool you into thinking it is in any way a conservative documentary).
|Unknown
|-
|''Lost in Tel Aviv''
|2008
|Not Rated
|A couple strives to make a filthy, [[South Park]]-esque animated series.
|Unknown
|-
|''Makers: Women who Make America''
|2013-2014
|Unrated
|A documentary glorifying [[Feminism]], in particular, the faction that started with [[Betty Friedan]]'s ''The Second Sex''. Also features as examples of role models and pioneers of feminism such degenerates as [[Lena Dunham]] (creator of the liberal TV series ''Girls''), Linda Woolverton, [[Hillary Clinton]], [[Ellen DeGeneres]], [[Jane Fonda]], and [[Gloria Allred]]. On top of that, there's no mention of conservatives [[Margaret Thatcher]], [[Sarah Palin]], [[Phyllis Schlafly]], [[Michele Bachman]] or [[Carly Fiorina]]. Only showing more of their bias.
|N/A
|-
|''McLibel''
|1997 (TV version)
2005 (Extended version)
|
|The fast food industry is blamed for environmental issues in a manner similar to ''Super Size Me'' and the liberal book ''Fast Food Nation''. Unsurprisingly, Morgan Spurlock, the director of ''Super Size Me'', and Eric Schlosser, author of ''Fast Food Nation'', are present.
|
|-
|''Mea Maxima Culpa: Silence in the House of God''
|2012
|NR
|Liberal Alex Gibney attacks Christianity.
|
|-
|''Religulous''
|2008
|R
|[[Militant atheism|Militant atheist]] "Comedian" [[Bill Maher]] tries to convince the audience of what he perceives to be the folly of all religion, with a special focus on Christianity.
|$13,011,160
|-
|''[[The Road We’ve Traveled]]''
|2012
|Not rated
|[[Tom Hanks]] directs & narrates Barack Obama's supposed achievements
|NA
|-
|''Roger & Me''
|1989
|R
|[[Michael Moore]] blames capitalism for the downfall of Flint, Michigan instead of the [[trade unions]] that bullied businesses & forced them to ship jobs overseas (due to excessive taxation) or the fact that Flint has been under [[Democratic]] leadership since 1973. Later on, Moore would also admit that he never interviewed Roger Smith.<ref>http://callcenterinfo.tmcnet.com/news/2007/06/16/2717913.htm</ref>
|$6,706,368
|-
|''The Selling of the Pentagon''
|1971
|NR
|CBS pushed this anti-American/anti-Vietnam War propaganda. The producers refused to divulge their sources to the Pentagon, and at least one of the officials involved entered a minor lawsuit against CBS.<ref name="Dan Rather's Day of Reckoning">https://www.weeklystandard.com/print/dan-rathers-day-of-reckoning/article/5895</ref>
|
|-
|''She's Beautiful When She's Angry''
|2014
|NR
|Nothing more than feminist propaganda being passed off as truth.
|$421,573<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=beautifulwhenangry.htm</ref>
|-
|''Super Size Me''
|2004
|PG-13
|Morgan Spurlock eats nothing but food from McDonald's for a month to show the negative effects of doing so and tries using this experiment that no sane person would attempt to blame [[obesity]] on great capitalist paragons like [[McDonald's]] and [[Sodexo]].
|$11,536,423
|-
|''The Tillman Story''
|2010
|R
|A liberals view of the circumstances surrounding the death of football star and [[Army Ranger]] [[Pat Tillman]]. The film portrays each and every fact as sinister. Plus, each and every fact is evidence of a conspiracy. Typical Hollywood [[George W. Bush]] bashing flick. The [[liberal bias]] was clear, make Tillman a liberal [[atheist]] anti-war hero that was cannon-fodder for the government. Tillman's actions speak louder than any twisted accusations presented in this documentary.
|$802,535
|-
|''Under the Gun''
|2016
|R
|Anti-second amendment, the film was criticized for its inaccuracies.
|
|-
|''The Uncounted Enemy: A Vietnam Deception''
|1982
|NR
|Anti-American/Anti-Vietnam War propaganda that infamously accused General [[William Westmoreland]] of deliberately understating the force strength of the [[Vietcong]] during the Tet Offensive. This resulted in a libel suit made by Westmoreland against CBS that promptly went to court after an internal investigation was issued due to ''TV Guide'' finding damning evidence of similar journalistic malpractice that was practiced in the earlier documentary/propaganda ''The Selling of the Pentagon'', which ultimately resulted in CBS losing its libel insurance, as well as the documentary unit being scrapped when [[Larry Tisch]] took over in 1987.<ref name="Dan Rather's Day of Reckoning" />
|
|-
|''The Wall Within''
|June 2, 1988
|Unrated
|A documentary helmed by extremely liberal "journalist" [[Dan Rather]] that reinforced the false image of Vietnam War veterans being anti-social degenerates suffering from PTSD and drug abuse. Was also particularly infamous in that all six of the "veterans" that were interviewed were later confirmed by various documents to have never even served during the events they mentioned, and even the one who actually DID serve did not do so with boots on the ground and was a repairman.<ref>http://loonybird.com/media_dan_rather.htm</ref>
|N/A
|-
|''Wal-Mart: The High Cost of Low Price''
|2005
|
|This anti-capitalist schlock vilifies [[Wal-Mart]] and other discount stores.
|$1.5 million
|-
|''Winter Soldier''
|1972
|Not Rated
|The 1972 film about U.S. troops from [[Vietnam]] put on record as baby killers, [[human rights]] violators, and general disservice to America. This myth was propagated by a few anti-war activist liberal actors that never did see combat in Vietnam and some were never in the country. The initial result was to hold hearings in [[Congress]] over the matter. All allegations were proven fabrications, falsehoods, and lies.
|Unknown
|-
|''Years of Living Dangerously''
|2014
|N/A
|Environmental schlockumentary spearheaded by ultra-liberal, [[James Cameron]], and featuring several proponents of [[Hollywood Values]] trying to preach the false idea of [[climate change]].
|
|}

==Anti-Christian and Sacrilegious films==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''2001: A Space Odyssey''
|1968
|G
|Stanley Kubrick's most notable film was controversial upon its release for its atheistic themes, particularly its support of the [[Theory of evolution]].
|$56,954,992
|-
|''After Earth''
|2013
|PG-13
|This box office failure contains a peculiar mix of both evolutionist and [[Scientology|Scientologist]] themes, and it further tarnished M. Night Shyamalan's directorial career.
|$60,522,097
|-
||Almost any film directed by Luis Buñuel
|
|
|Luis Buñuel was an atheist bigoted against Christians. He unjustly ridiculed Christians throughout his filmography and was a pioneer in making this schlock being considered "art" when it is really just offensive, vulgar and grotesque liberal smut.
|
|-
|''Antichrist''
|2009
|NR
|This gruesome film's title says it all: it's full of horrifying imagery juxtaposed to Christian symbols.
|$791,867
|-
|''Battlefield Earth''
|2000
|PG-13
|This Scientologist propaganda piece failed at the box-office and is largely considered to be one of the worst movies ever made. It "won" in nine categories at the Golden Raspberry Awards (aka, the Razzie Awards), making it the most awarded film at the Razzies until ''Jack and Jill'' took its place. Furthermore, it won one-time awards for "Worst Drama of our first 25 Years" during the 2005 awards, as well as "Worst Picture of the Decade" in 2010. Lastly, the film plays into the liberal notion of personal characteristics mattering more than true merits: John Travolta is the star because of his affiliation with the "church" of Scientology.
|$21 million
|-
|''Book of Mormon''
|2011
|R
|Written by atheists Trey Parker and Matt Stone as what they sarcastically call "an atheist's love letter to religion", this musical insults every aspect of the Mormon religion as two of the church's elders embark on a mission to Africa. There are several Biblical inaccuracies, which reflects the writers' insane, misguided belief that Christians will believe anything word-for-word if it's written in the Bible. In one song, a group of tribal Ugandans swears against God in the Ugandan language.
|
|-
|''The Boondock Saints''
|1999
|R
|The characters are supposed to be Christians (or "saints" as the title suggests), but they show themselves as anything but. They dispense their own form of vigilante justice (summary execution) and say the F-word in every sentence they can. The FBI agent who chases them is hinted throughout the film to be [[homosexual]]. Overall, the film is just a vulgar ''[[Death Wish]]'' rip-off.
|
|-
|''Breaking the Waves''
|1996
|R
|It wrongly claims that God rewards and endorses adulterers and prostitution while vilifying devout Christians.
|$3,803,298
|-
|''The Canterbury Tales''
|1972 (Italy and West Germany) 1980 (USA)
|NC-17
|Directed by communist homosexual Italian director Pier Paolo Pasolini, the film is an utter butchering of the seminal work by Geoffery Chaucer, even including movie-exclusive scenes proving that its viewpoint is inherently left-wing and anti-Christian. Among the most infamous additions include two priests engaging in sodomy (only one is punished via execution due to being poor and thus unable to bribe his way out) and Satan defecating out screaming friars.
|N/A
|-
|''Cloud Atlas''
|2012
|R
|Supports the idea of reincarnation and features anti-Christian undertones. Additionally, supports the idea of homosexuality and [[transvestitism]], as many of the characters are resurrected as the opposite sex, while still played by the same actor. This idea of supporting homosexuality is further brought to the forefront as one of the movie's directors recently came out as having had a sex change operation as a way to promote the movie.
|$27,108,272
|-
|''The Craft''
|1996
|R
|As the title implies, it depicts witchcraft in a positive light.
|$24,819,936
|-
|''The Crucible''
|1996
|PG-13
|Based upon the Broadway play by communist sympathizer Arthur Miller, this historical revisionist drama is an allegory intentionally written to compare the Christians of the Salem Witch Trials to the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) and comparing those accused of witchcraft to the communists HUAC hunted, ultimately spreading the idea that American communists of the Cold War era were helpless "victims" of HUAC. In real history, John Proctor, one of the accused, was reported as living a “Christian life in his family and was ever ready to help such as they stood in need”, but in the film, he confesses to being a witch and publicly denounces God.
|$7,343,114
|-
|''[[The Da Vinci Code]]''
|2006
|PG-13
|Based on the book of the same name, this mystery film supports the false theory that [[Jesus]] Christ married [[Mary Magdalene]], pushing feminism and attacking Christianity along the way.
|$217,536,138
|-
|''Dead Poets Society''
|1989
|PG
|A worldly literature professor, John Keating (Robin Williams) is shown as inspiring and "open-minded". This contrasts with the conservative Christian boarding school where he teaches, apparently portrayed as conformist, oppressive, and materialistic. The film also appears to promote teen suicide, as one of the main characters is able to commit suicide without a negative word ever being uttered against his actions by any positive character.
|$95,860,116
|-
|''Dogma''
|1999
|R
|This attack on religion, particularly [[Catholic]]ism, contains cheap smutty jokes and incorrectly makes [[God]] female.
|$30,652,890
|-
|''Exodus: Gods and Kings''
|2014
|PG-13
|The prophet Moses is radically changed into an atheist and a terrorist. Glenn Beck said it essentially turns Moses into "an al-Qaeda member" who "doesn't want to rely on God anymore".
|$65,014,513
|-
|''Forty Days and Forty Nights''
|2002
|R
|In this vulgar sex comedy, the main character has to give up sex for Lent, and his ex-girlfriend tries tempting him to break his commitment throughout. Interestingly, it was released ''during'' the Lent season, so William Donnahue, President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, requested to both then-[[Disney]] CEO [[Michael Eisner]] and [[Harvey Weinstein]] that they reschedule the airing of the film, citing that "To show a film that parodies Lent in a most vulgar way is bad enough, but to show it during Lent is outrageous."<ref>http://www.catholicleague.org/appeal-to-michael-eisner-and-harvey-weinstein-reschedule-40-days-and-40-nights/</ref> In addition, despite the inflammatory material in the movie, the [[Anti-Defamation League]] head Foxman did not call out the film.<ref>http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1083014/posts</ref>
|$37,950,822
|-
|''The Golden Compass''
|2007
|PG-13
|Based on the atheistic ''His Dark Materials'' series.
|$70,107,728
|-
|''Hail Mary''
|1985
|NR
|Marxist filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard retells the story of Mary and Joseph in the modern day. As per his business casual, it was controversial upon its release. [[Pope John Paul II]] condemned it, claiming it was likely to offend the deeply religious because of its explicit nudity. Additionally, it depicts Joseph as a womanizing man [censored] and Mary in a similar light, as there is a montage where she is completely in the nude for no apparent reason. The film was banned in deeply religious countries such as [[Brazil]] and [[Argentina]].
|
|-
|''The Haunting of Molly Hartley''
|2008
|PG-13
|Christians are either starry-eyed kooks or homicidal maniacs, while those implied to be Satanists live a happy lifestyle.
|$15,418,749
|-
|''Hercules''
|2014
|PG-13
|This film seems to take a more atheistic turn on the Greek hero as opposed to the mythology behind Hercules.
|$72,688,614
|-
|''Inherit the Wind''
|1960
|Not Rated
|This historical revisionist drama contains a series of Hollywood-perpetuated lies about the [[Scopes Trial]] to smear Christianity, including: portraying [[William Jennings Bryan]] as ignorant, harsh, and punitive, based on an incorrect of his actions and testimony; falsely claiming that, at the end, Bryan, in a senseless fit of madness, died in the courtroom amid "caring" and "reasonable" [[Darwin]]ists; and wrongfully depicting Darwinists in a positive light and Christians as "deceitful". In real life, Bryan and the Christians won the trial and were charitable to the end, while the Darwinist Darrow was deceitful in reneging on his deal to take the witness stand after Bryan did.
|
|-
|''The Invention of Lying''
|2009
|PG-13
|Written and directed by British atheist [[Ricky Gervais]], the movie takes place in an alternate reality where the concept of lying does not exist until Gervais' character invents it. As a consequence of lying not previously existing, religion hasn't existed either, so, behind the facade of a romantic comedy, the main message of the film is that all religion is based in lies.
|
|-
|''Kingdom of Heaven'' (theatrical version)
|2005
|R
|Atheist Ridley Scott directs this revisionist historical piece that portrays Muslims as the "victims" of the Crusades. In truth, the Muslims of the day won every Crusade except the first (in which Christians briefly prevailed), the third and the sixth.
|$47.4 million
|-
|''[[The Last Temptation of Christ]]''
|1988
|R
|The film's eponymous final sequence depicts the crucified Jesus—tempted by what turns out to be Satan in the form of a beautiful, androgynous child—experiencing a dream or alternative reality where he comes down from the cross, marries Mary Magdalene (and later Mary and Martha), and lives out his life as a full mortal man. He learns on his deathbed that he was deceived by [[Satan]] and begs God to let him "be [God's] son," at which point he finds himself once again on the cross. At other points in the film, Jesus is depicted as building crosses for the Romans, being tormented by the voice of God, and lamenting the many sins he believes he has committed.
Because of these departures from the gospel narratives—and especially a brief scene wherein Jesus and Mary Magdalene consummate their marriage—several Christian groups organized vocal protests and boycotts of the film prior to and upon its release. One protest, organized by a religious Californian radio station, gathered 600 protesters to picket the headquarters of Universal Studios' then-parent company MCA. One of the protestors dressed up as MCA's Chairman Lew Wasserman and pretended to drive nails through Jesus' hands into a wooden cross. Evangelist Bill Bright offered to buy the film's negative from Universal in order to destroy it. The protests were effective in convincing several theater chains not to screen the film. One of those chains, General Cinemas, later apologized to Scorsese for doing so.
Mother Angelica, a Catholic nun and foundress of Eternal Word Television Network, described ''Last Temptation'' as "the most blasphemous ridicule of the Eucharist that's ever been perpetrated in this world" and "a holocaust movie that has the power to destroy souls eternally."
In some countries, including Greece, Turkey, Mexico, Chile, and Argentina, the film was banned or censored for several years. As of July 2010, the film continues to be banned in the Philippines and Singapore.
|$8,373,585
|-
|''Legion''
|2010
|R
|In this blasphemous film, God uses an army of angels to wipe out humanity, ignoring Psalm 91:11's promise that He sends angels to protect humanity.
|$40,168,080
|-
|''The Ledge''
|2011
|Not Rated
|Atheist screenplay writer Matthew Chapman confirmed that the main character is the first openly atheist hero in American cinema. Likewise, his work misleadingly depicts Christianity, via the character Jon, as being "bigoted", abusive, and domineering. Because of this, ''The Ledge'' failed at the box office flop and received generally negative reviews.
|$610,986
|-
|''The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc''
|1999
|R
|The prominent historical figure Joan of Arc is psychologically and emotionally unstable, impulsive, and prone to mood swings, so she leads the French army to victory purely out of selfishness, cruelty, and vengeance. However, historical evidence proves the contrary. Evidently, this film was made to criticize Roman Catholicism.
|$66,976,317
|-
|''Monty Python's Life of Brian''
|1979
|R
|A man is born on the same day as Christ Jesus and is mistaken for the Messiah. Expect an hour and a half of rampant sacrilege to follow suit.
|$19,398,164
|-
|''[[Monty Python's The Meaning of Life]]''
|1983
|R
|It's ninety minutes of absurdist, godless existentialism with a sacrilegious person's view of [[Heaven]] at the end by the staunchly nonreligious British troupe Monty Python. Need we say more?
|$14,929,552
|-
|''The Most Hated Woman in America''
|2017
|R
|This biographical drama sympathizes with [[Madalyn Murray O'Hair]], who is responsible for ending official Bible-reading in American public schools in 1963 ([[Atheism and Mass Murder|and disastrous results that liberals refuse to talk about]]), and not surprisingly turns her into a martyr.
|
|-
|''Missionary''
|2013
|R
|Copying the deranged lover plot device from other films (ex. Fatal Attraction), this film makes the maniac a Mormon.
|
|-
|''Noah''
|2014
|PG-13
|In a liberal take on the classic story from the [[Book of Genesis]], liberals, going along with their usual ''modus operandi'', shoehorn in harmful messages that had nothing to do with the original story, such as [[environmentalism]], living on a vegan diet, and most notably, insisting that the [[Theory of Evolution]] is "fact". In addition, many traits of the "antagonists" appeared to be more Biblical than those of the "protagonists".<ref>Patterson, Roger & Chaffey, Tim (March 29, 2014). [https://answersingenesis.org/noahs-ark/noah-movie-detailed-review/ The ''Noah'' Movie: Our Detailed Review]. ''Answers in Genesis''. Retrieved August 9, 2016.</ref>
|$101,200,044
|-
|''Oh! Heavenly Dog''
|1980
|PG
|Don't let the title fool you. The movie is anything but heavenly, as it smears Christianity and presents a false depiction of reincarnation.
|N/A
|-
|''Practical Magic''
|1998
|PG-13
|Yet another film glorifying witchcraft and attempting to mix romantic comedy into it (which even puzzled liberal critics).<ref>https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/practical_magic/</ref> This was one of the many wiccan movies released during the late 90's.
|$46,683,377
|-
|''Priest''
|1994
|R
|Blatantly anti-Catholic and pro-homosexual.
|$4,165,845
|-
|''Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves''
|1991
|PG-13
|In this storm of political correctness for the sake of political correctness, the Christianity of Robin Hood and his Merry Men is heavily downplayed, save for Friar Tuck's initial bigotry toward the Muslim character Azeem. Azeem, who is not present in the original Robin Hood legends but was created for this version of the Robin Hood saga, is depicted as a wise, open-minded, tolerant mystic. Robin Hood and Azeem are portrayed by liberals Kevin Costner and Morgan Freeman, respectively.
|$390.5 million
|-
|''September Dawn''
|2007
|R
|This anti-Mormon propaganda piece blatantly distorts history. The Mountain Meadows Massacre was perpetrated by a group of Mormons, but, despite what this movie says, Church authority did not authorize such an act, and they still condemn it to this day. This movie was strategically released in order to muddy the waters of Mitt Romney's 2008 presidential campaign. Fortunately, the filmmakers did not get away with their heinous crimes, as ''September Dawn'' received extremely negative reviews from film critics, very weak box office receipts, and a Golden Raspberry Award nomination.
|$1,066,555
|-
|''Silent Hill''
|2006
|R
|Based on the horror-themed video game series with the same name (go figure), the Christians are the cult-like antagonists.
|$46,982,632
|-
|''Silent Night, Deadly Night''
|1984
|R
|A man becomes a serial killer after abuse from the Christian orphanage wherein he grew up. Conservative Christians successfully protested being vilified, and the film was pulled from theaters within one week of its release.
|$2,491,460
|-
|''Spotlight''
|2015
|R
|Another film bashing Christianity. The "heroes" uncover a scandal of child molestation in the Catholic Church. The film portrays them as "brave" (because Hollywood hasn't bashed Christianity enough) but ignores the fact that homosexual infiltrators within the Church, seeking to discredit and damage the Church, were responsible for the atrocities and their subsequent coverup. Strangely, the same unspeakable acts have been happening legally in Islamic nations but they are conveniently ignored by the liberal media (if the journalists uncovered that, then that would be an example of bravery). It also downplays the effect homosexuality had by having several characters specifically deny that homosexuality was a factor in their victimization and subsequent turns to homosexuality.
|$45,055,776
|-
|''Star Trek V: The Final Frontier''
|1989
|PG
|Secular humanists are kind, but the religiously devout as violent and ruthless. Even liberally biased critics didn't like it, as it won three Golden Raspberry Awards (Razzie Awards), including Worst Picture of 1989, and was nominated for three more Razzies.
|$63 million
|-
|''Sunshine''
|2007
|R
|This vehemently nonreligious, apocalyptic film is full of scientific inaccuracy. Christianity is embodied in a homicidal psychopath, who believes that it is the will of God for the world to end. This Christian is willing to kill anyone who gets in the way of what he believes is the will of God. The personified atheism, in contrast, is "sympathetic", "kind", and "pro-humanity".
|$32 million
|-
|''The Truman Show''
|1998
|PG
|An atheism and humanism propaganda piece about liberal president Harry Truman. Truman doesn't realize his seemingly ordinary life is a reality TV show, overseen by Christof, the show's heartless and manipulative creator. Christof lives in the fake sky above Truman, watching over him, controlling everything from the weather to Truman's destiny. He is an allegorical substitute for the Christian God. (Notice "Christ" in his name.) Truman must escape from the false world of the show (Christianity) and triumph over Christof. As Truman appears to walk on water in the ending, the film is displaying the false, human-worshipping sentiment that man can replace God and be Lord of his own life.
|$31,542,121
|-
|''Victor Frankenstein''
|2015
|PG-13
|The protagonist of the classic conservative novel warning against the consequences of playing God is now one of the most openly atheist protagonists in cinema.
|$34.2 million
|-
|}

==Debatable Whether Liberal==
{| class="wikitable sortable"
|-
!Film
!Year
!Rating
!Comments
!Gross (Domestic)
|-
|''21 Jump Street''
|2011
|R
|Two police officers try to take down a drug ring in high school where the villains are environmentalists and drug dealers. But contains many sexual references, full profanity, and many religious insults. A parodic comedy remake of the 1987–91 [[Fox Network]] police drama of the same name.
|$201,585,328
|-
|''The 40-Year-Old Virgin''
|2005
|R
|A bawdy sex comedy about a man who is ridiculed by his peers for his indifference to sex as an adult. His friends, feeling that he isn't "normal", try to encourage him to lose his virginity, starting with pornography, sex toys, and even prostitution. However, their personal attitudes towards women ruin their own relationships, and the man remains steadfast in his abstinence. Later, he meets a woman who connects with him, but is no longer a virgin, as she has a teenage daughter. At one point, her daughter confesses only to him that she is also a virgin and encourages him not to feel bad about it. However, her mother, who has been on multiple dates with him, is still unaware of his virginity. After their proposed deadline by which the two agreed to eventually have sex, he tells her of his virginity and stays reluctant about giving in. There is some drama and confusion between them, but she eventually comes to accept him and the two are happily married at the end before having sex.
|$177.4 million
|-
|''Accepted''
|2006
|PG-13
|It criticizes the [[Department of Education]] (or colleges and universities in general) and our protagonist lives the America dream by starting his own college, but then the juvenile humor, gross-out humor and drug abuse steps in.
|$36,323,505
|-
|''Aeon Flux''
|2005
|PG-13
|Anti-cloning film, but also pro-feminism as well.
|$25,874,337
|-
|''Antz''
|1998
|PG
|It's produced by [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]], downplays the military, and possesses an implicit promotion of Communism via the main character, but also has an Anti-Eugenics message too.
|$90,757,863
|-
|''Army of Darkness''
|1993
|R
|Despite its unrealistic depictions of demons, it's a pretty gun-centric pro-Second Amendment film.
|$11,502,976
|-
|''Atlantis: The Lost Empire''
|2001
|PG
|Released during the [[Michael Eisner]] era of [[Disney]]. On the one hand, the main villain is a military commander who would endanger the lost city of Atlantis just to be rich, and it is implied that he would commit treason by selling the power source to the Kaiser during World War I for the same motivation. The theft of the crystal to become rich could be seen as a condemnation of capitalism. That being said, however, capitalism has also been promoted in a more positive light in the form of Preston B. Whitmore, an eccentric but ultimately good-hearted billionaire who funded the expedition in the first place, and in addition, most of the principal cast was shown to have dreams of getting a better lot in society, with it being heavily implied in the ending that they ultimately succeeded in achieving those dreams after selflessly trying to save Atlantis, which acts as an implicit promotion of both capitalism and the American Dream.
|$84,056,472
|-
|''Beauty and the Beast''
|1991
|G
|A young woman overcomes a shallow society and finds true love. Although by comparison a powerful and immensely popular antidote to [[feminism]] to the [[liberal]] movies churned out by [[Disney]] since, as well as overall promoting redemption (as seen with the Beast's transformation), and also promoting some family values (such as Belle being loyal to her father), there were a few hints at feminist propaganda at the beginning of the film, such as Belle being different from the villagers because she can read, which is implied to not be supported by the villagers at all (feminist propaganda often falsely claims that women couldn't get an education until the 1960s), as well as Belle being unwilling to hold the role of housewife for Gaston or raising children, and later her blaming the titular Beast for her fleeing the castle despite most of the events leading up to and after that event being largely her fault and the story framing that as being a good thing she did. On a related note, a scene that had Belle baking a cake for her father when he got home ended up cut at the order of Linda Woolverton, with her reason specifically being because "a liberated woman [like Belle] wouldn't know how to bake," essentially implying that baking would have been the activity of non-liberated women, a typical statement by feminists.<ref name="Woolverton and Belle">https://www.mouseplanet.com/8500/Linda_Woolverton_and_Belle</ref><ref>https://www.yahoo.com/news/belle-beauty-beast-became-disneys-155053182.html</ref> In addition, the opening song and the reprise has Belle having a similar "smarter-than-thou" personality that is all too common among liberals, having her refer to the villagers derogatorily as "little people" in the beginning of the opening song, repeatedly stressing the "provincial" elements of the village when expressing her desire to leave the village, complaining about Gaston due to considering him "boorish and brainless" shortly after his failed proposal, and also dismissing the villagers as "they" when mentioning her goals ("I want so much more than what ''they've'' got planned"). On that note, due to Beast being unwilling to even defend himself, let alone the castle servants, when the mob arrived to kill him until Belle had arrived at the last second, which had been the result of Belle's attempts at civilizing Beast, it gives the implication that the ideal male in the film is not allowed to get angry or act violently even in self-defense unless a woman was physically present. Then-Disney Chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg also mentioned that he wanted "a feminist twist" on the original fairy tale by creating a heroine who is "a departure from typical Disney female characters",<ref>http://articles.mcall.com/1991-11-22/features/2825583_1_beast-s-castle-fairy-tale-madame-gabrielle</ref> which had partly been done in response to negative criticisms towards Ariel in the Conservative film ''The Little Mermaid'' (which had been the immediate preceding film) by liberal critics,<ref name="Woolverton and Belle" /> and the feminist writer [[Linda Woolverton]] made clear that she made Belle a feminist and based her on the women's liberation movement from the 1970s in order to avoid creating another insipid princess.<ref name="Beauty and Maleficent">{{Cite web|url = http://time.com/2798136/maleficent-beauty-beast-writer/|title = The Same Woman Wrote Maleficent and Beauty and the Beast—Here’s How They’re Linked|date = May 30, 2014|accessdate = January 16, 2014|website = Time|publisher = |last = Rothman|first = Lily}}</ref><ref>http://www.ew.com/article/2016/05/26/linda-woolverton-alice-belle-disney-heroines?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter</ref><ref>https://www.bustle.com/articles/163686-the-one-thing-beauty-and-the-beast-fans-probably-dont-know-about-the-creation-of-belle</ref><ref>http://www.mouseplanet.com/8500/Linda_Woolverton_and_Belle</ref><ref>http://articles.latimes.com/1992-01-19/entertainment/ca-544_1_disney-film</ref> On that note, this made it the first ''Disney'' animated adaptation of a fairy tale to radically alter the story specifically to promote a left-wing socio-political agenda onto the audience regardless of whether such was actually appropriate for the audience or an actual good message (as prior Disney films generally made alterations specifically to tone down anything that was otherwise inappropriate for the age group for the audience).

Gaston is a conservative and hardworking hunter who is considered by the villagers to be their town hero, but is shown to be the main villain of the movie (it should also be noted that in the original screenplay for the film, Gaston was intended to be a Marquess [French nobleman], meaning the decision to make him a conservative and hardworking hunter was made after a rewrite). In addition, although not to the same degree as other Disney films that came after it (i.e., ''The Hunchback of Notre Dame'' and ''The Princess and the Frog''), the film also has a slight anti-Christian bent, as the villagers (strongly implied by various verses in the opening song and the mob song, as well as a failed wedding, to be practicing and devout Christians) were later briefly seen supporting a plan that went against God's teachings, as well as overall depicted as being idiots, while Belle, the character framed as an intellectual and a moral figure, is not even seen or even implied to believe in God at all. In addition, Belle's love for Beast (where it is implied that she was largely unaware of the Beast being formerly a human prince) could be seen as promoting bestiality. Also, it is the first Disney movie to neither show nor hint at the two love interests getting married, and in fact, the only "wedding" in the film was the one Belle ruined, creating negative implications about marriage as a result, as well as starting a string of movies that don't paint marriage in a positive light.

Similarly, the only three females in the film who are implicitly supportive of marriage and Christianity are demeaned, depicted as dumb blondes with the script and credits explicitly referring to them derogatorily as "the bimbettes." There was also a slight anti-hunting sentiment in the film, due to the main villain, as aforementioned, explicitly being labelled as a hunter. According to Don Hahn, there were also several overtones of a pro-homosexual agenda within the film, including choice lyrics of the mob song late into the film, largely because of the executive producer, Howard Ashman, being homosexual and dying from AIDS at the time the film was made and wanting to push the idea of being "ostracized" for his suffering from AIDS.<ref>https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/03/beauty-and-the-beast-gay-lefou-howard-ashman</ref><ref>https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/16583/don-Hahn-interview-beauty-and-the-beast-howard-Ashman-the-lion-king-south-park-and-frankenweenie</ref> One of the protagonistic characters, Lumiere, is briefly seen making out with a featherduster and was implied that the two weren't married, with some hints at Lumiere being an unrepentant womanizer (with the implication being further increased in the Special Edition-exclusive song "Human Again" where Lumiere mentioned he had a "mademoiselle in each arm", would be "courting again, chic and sporting again", and Mrs. Potts interjecting "Which should cause several husbands alarm." with Lumiere laughing at this, heavily implying that Lumiere was an adulterer to married women). In addition, Maurice is depicted as slightly addled and eccentric, as well as being naïve (such as thinking Gaston was a good match for Belle despite the story making clear he wasn't), and while he does try to go out of his way to save Belle in the midway point of the film, he ultimately needs saving twice and is unable to save Belle at all, which makes it debatable as to just how pro-family the narrative actually was. In addition, some elements of the film were later reused in the [[Essay:Worst Liberal Movies#Social|definitely liberal]] ''Maleficent'' movie.<ref name="Beauty and Maleficent" />
|$$218,967,620
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|''Beauty and the Beast'' (2017 remake)
|2017
|PG
|On the one hand, the 2017 film version of ''Beauty and the Beast'' is the latest in the film trend of needlessly and shamelessly remaking animated films or children's stories for the sake of earning easy revenue and capitalizing on current film trends in the modern, soulless Hollywood studio system. Liberals also seized the opportunity with the remake to exploit diversity and promote some liberal values within the ''Beauty and the Beast'' universe. The final result of the diversity inclusion in the cast of characters is that it feels self-congratulatory in the sense of putting it all in for the sake of having it, rather than having it be just a part of the story and the film. One notable example is the filmmakers' decision to make LeFou, Gaston's diminutive and bumbling sidekick, a homosexual who is conflicted with his feelings for Gaston (although it should be noted that in the actual script, it was never actually specified that LeFou was homosexual.<ref>https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/entertainthis/2017/03/03/josh-gad-lefou-beauty-and-the-beast/98679284/</ref>). At the end of the film, LeFou is shown taking a romantic interest in a musketeer who is now a transgender woman after being transformed into one during Gaston's siege of the Beast's castle.

Not only is it an atrocious and needless artistic decision of the filmmakers to needlessly incorporate diversity simply for the sake of it, but the 2017 film version of ''Beauty and the Beast'' also serves as an example that liberals can legitimately shoehorn the [[homosexual agenda]] into Disney films. Adding salt to the wound, the filmmakers also further changed history to suit their feminist agenda, similar to previous Disney films like ''Mulan'' (1998), ''Pocahontas'' (1995) and ''The Princess and the Frog'' (2009) (most infamously, the villagers are shown to be explicitly intolerant of Belle learning how to read and teaching girls to do the same, smashing her washing machine in the process, despite the fact that the namesake for the village in this film, Mdm. Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve, the original author for the fairy tale, was herself a woman). The 2017 film version of ''Beauty and the Beast'' is now even more of a feminist propaganda film than the 1991 animated film version ever was. There were also hints at an anti-war message due to Gaston being turned into a war veteran.

On the other hand, there were also several surprisingly Conservative messages in the film, significantly more than in the 1991 version. Namely, Christianity is treated in a far more positive light in this film than in the 1991 version as one of the few friends Belle has in this version is the village Chaplain named Pere Robert who is shown to be sympathetic to her bibliophilic nature and also attempts to prevent Maurice from being sent to the Asylum, and later is shown to be horrified at the formation of the mob against the Beast (it is to be noted that in the original 1991 film, the character in question was merely a bookseller, not a priest, and most of the villagers, implied to be devout Christians, were demonized in the film), which was also surprisingly accurate to history despite the aforementioned changing of history in the film (in real history, Christianity, especially the Catholic Church, actively encouraged literacy, writing, and arithmetic among both genders, with girls being taught in convents or at the home.). In addition, Maurice actually is shown to be more proactive in this film, such as directly refusing Gaston's attempt at marrying Belle and even attempting to expose Gaston as an attempted murderer and psychopath, and also plays a direct role in saving Belle and himself from the paddywagon after she exposes Beast to the villagers (in the original film, although he does set out to try and find Belle and save her after trying to get the villagers to help failed, he ultimately required saving by her due to catching an illness during his trek, and ultimately needed saving alongside Belle via Chip).

In addition, Lumiere as well as the featherduster (named Plumette in this version) are shown to be an actual loving couple (in the original film, it is heavily implied that Lumiere was a frequent womanizer and that the featherduster was also sexually loose), and the remake also doesn't demonize traditional marriage nearly as much as in the 1991 version (notably, the remake cut out Gaston's wedding proposal as well as Belle shoving Gaston into mud in front of attendees). The forgiveness and redemption theme was also significantly more emphasized in the remake, due to Beast ultimately forgiving Maurice after learning why he had tried to steal the rose and even allowing Belle to save Maurice specifically to make up for his past behavior, with Maurice also forgiving Beast upon Belle showing him the baby rattle (originally, Maurice was a bit more hesitant to forgive the Beast). It is also shown to be significantly more pro-family as well, as not only is Belle shown to be loyal to her father like in the 1991 original, but as noted above, Maurice himself took measures to protect Belle and notably agreed with Belle that Gaston would not have worked out for her (originally, Maurice also thought Gaston was alright for her), and he also was shown to be very protective of Belle after his wife had died from the plague, with Belle's mom specifically sacrificing herself by telling them to leave her behind to allow Belle a healthy life.

In addition, the triplets (renamed to "Village Lasses") in the remake were depicted as having haughtiness, arrogance, being jealous of Belle, as well as overall being nasty people, including briefly smirking at Belle when she was locked up in the paddywagon as well as being actively involved in the arrest of Maurice as well as the later attack on Beast's castle (in the original film, the triplets were not shown to have any negative behavior to them besides their crushing on Gaston [not participating in the later arrest of Maurice, let alone the attack on Beast's castle shortly afterward during the climax, and also implying at one point that they were willing to give their blessing to Gaston marrying Belle when Belle refused him in the beginning of the film, and while they were present during the final lyrics for the Gaston reprise where Gaston explicitly divulged key details for his blackmail plan, the way it was framed could easily be interpreted as the triplets genuinely not knowing about the plan due to their absence from Maurice's arrival up to the scene where Gaston whispers the plan to LeFou.], and it is also heavily implied that they supported traditional marriage and were demeaned in the film by being referred to in the script as The Bimbettes and treated as dumb blondes for this reason). In addition, according to the film's director Bill Condon as well as one of the triplets' actresses, Rafaelle Cohen, the reason the triplets were intensely jealous and spiteful of Belle was because their mother neglected them while doting on Belle, showcasing the dangers of parental neglect.
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|''Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas''
|1998
|G
|Paints Christmas in a positive light, and has Beast learning the meaning behind it, as well as putting aside the past relating to it being the reason he was cursed. Also significantly tones down the more feminist messaging from the original film. The manner in which Christmas was depicted, however, was closer to the secular view of Christmas than the actual intended meaning of the holiday being a celebration of the birth of [[Jesus Christ]].
|N/A (Direct to video movie)
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|''The Bee Movie''
|2007
|PG
|Its debatable whether or not its environmentalist or against it. It does show the destructiveness of environmentalism (i.e. butting into nature's problems in the name of helping her). The anti-human human sentiments in the movie turned out to be wrong, however, the humans are taking the honey made by the bees, similar to the welfare program of taking from those who worked for it. Others believe the movie promotes [[bestiality]], and is just disguised as a family movie.
|$287,600,000
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|''Bohemian Rhapsody''
|2018
|PG-13
|A biopic of [[Freddie Mercury]], the lead singer of the band Queen. While it does show elements of the practice of homosexuality and hedonism, at the same time, the film largely condemned the practice since it was made clear that Mercury's embracing of these things was what ultimately ruined Queen and his personal relationships, and is what ultimately killed him via AIDS. In addition, Paul Prenter, the only other major character to embrace homosexuality in the movie, was depicted in a very negative light, as he was one of the reasons Mercury went down a bad path, with it being made clear later on that Paul largely was using Mercury for his own gratification, blamed others for his bad ideas, and even hid vital information from Mercury deliberately such as the Live Aid concert plans as well as Mary Austin calling him. It also had a promotion of redemption, as Mercury, inspired largely by his former girlfriend/wife, Mary Austin nearing the end of the film, attempts to reconnect with his band and family and make amends in the time he had left before dying from AIDS. That all being said, however, it's debatable whether the film intended to paint his homosexual escapades in a negative light, as several members of the production company, including Freddie Mercury's actor Rami Malek, indicated that it was a "regrettable" decision as a result of not having enough time to give a "more balanced" view of (ie, promoting) his bisexual lifestyle.
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|''The Campaign''
|2012
|R
|Political comedy depicts the Democrat candidate (Will Ferrell) as an obnoxious, drunken womanizer and satire of [[John Edwards]], although the Republican candidate (Zach Galifianakis) is portrayed just as negatively as a corrupt capitalist.
|$33,165,738
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|''Chicken Run''
|2000
|G
|Produced by [[Jeffrey Katzenberg]], this vegan propaganda film compares a chicken farm to the [[Holocaust]].<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynn_A73hcfs</ref> The main villain of the movie is a capitalist who wants to make chicken pies. The film also promotes elements of feminism and anti-Americanism. On other hand the main villain of the movie is also a feminist as well as she called her husband's ancestors "poor worthless nothings"
|$106,834,564
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|''The Crow''
|1994
|R
|The tagline claims that our hero is an angel, but he doesn't display any Christian values. However, there is an anti-drug scene were Eric Draven (the hero) makes a drug addict mother realize that her daughter needs her & gets her off drugs. On top of that the film's villains are nihilist anarchists. The film is notable for being Brandon Lee's last film, as an accident on the set killed him during production.
|$50,693,129
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|''Ed Wood''
|1994
|R
|Although it does glorify cross dressing and the [[homosexual agenda]]. It still is pro-capitalism and the film also glorifies the American dream. As despite the obstacles Wood faces, he still continues doing what he loves in making movies.
|$5,887,457
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|''Edward Scissorhands''
|1990
|PG-13
|Endorsed by the Christian website ChristianAnswers.net with a 4 out of 5 star rating. Conversely however, a prominently featured Christian character - the only character in the movie ever identified as Christian - is portrayed as fanatical and bigoted against people with scissors for hands.
|$56,362,352
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|''Falling Down''
|1993
|R
|Film takes jabs at many [[liberal values]], [[illegal immigration]], union workers, multiculturalism, (one scene where Bill tells his ex-wife that the ice cream shop him and his family used to go to is now a Mexican store) and foreign aid (in one scene Bill asks an illegal Korean immigrate a rhetorical question on how much America has given his country and yells at him after he refuses to learn the language).<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4tC4qfv92Q</ref> It's also one of the very few films to be truthful in the "Nazis were right wingers" myth perpetrated by liberals, in which Bill informs a Neo-Nazi that he's an American and the Nazi is a sick a-hole. As well as many shots where the America flag is trashed upon (which could symbolize how liberalism has trashed everything America has stood for).<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piPzExBdfIg</ref> But at the same time it also takes jabs at capitalism, where Bill believes he's no longer commercially valuable. And although the plot is about man trying to reach his daughter's birthday party, the film seems to toy with its audience in suggesting whether he's mentally ill or not, as opposed to a pro-family message.
|$40,903,593
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|''[[Fargo]]''
|1996
|R
|A pregnant sheriff with traditional American family values solves an elaborate criminal embezzlement, kidnapping, and murder scheme. It remains debatable whether she is a feminist or feminine protagonist.
|$24,611,975
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|''Ghost''
|1990
|PG-13
|The [[Bible]] claims ghosts don't exist. Still this film toys with idea that they do, also it has liberal actress Whoopi Goldberg as a psychic medium. Nevertheless, the film does show Christian values, as ghost Sam Wheat tries to uncover a bank fraud case, when he does convinces Goldberg to give the money to a Christian charity. It also has an anti-infidelity message, as despite being widowed, Sam's wife Molly still refuses to be with anyone else, even when his false friend Carl tries to hit on her. Also it isn't PC on [[Eternal damnation|damnation]], as the villains are seen being cared away helplessly by evil spirits after they die.
|$217,631,306
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|''Good Kill''
|2014
|R
|Ethan Hawke plays a man who questions the ethics of his job as a drone pilot, while it is taking a jab at the [[Barack Obama]] regime (Obama has droned more people in the Middle East than George W. Bush, most of whom were innocent bystanders and the left has ignored it or claimed it was a "Fox News conspiracy"). It could also be against the War on Terror too.
|$316,472
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|''Grave of the Fireflies''
|1988
|UR
|While the film has been labeled anti-war, the director Isao Takahata stated the actual meaning was about growing up. The film's message is still debatable to this day.
|
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|''Halloween III: Season of the Witch''
|1982
|R
|Unlike the two films before it (which has mass murder Michael Myers) this film's villain is a pagan who plans on sacrificing children via witchcraft to bring back the original celebration of Halloween. However he does this by selling masks to them which many critics pointed out may have been an anti-capitalism message.<ref>https://www.nytimes.com/1982/10/22/movies/haloween-iii-plotting-a-joke.html</ref> The film's "hero" is also an adulterer.
|$14,400,000
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|''Hansel & Gretel: Witch Hunters''
|2013
|R
|Western fairy tale characters Hansel and Gretel are now adults and have their own private bounty hunting organization in hunting witches. Portrays witchcraft in a negative manner, and guns in good light. But the gore, graphic violence and brief nudity is rather unnecessary.
|$55,703,475
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|''Harry and the Hendersons''
|1987
|PG
|Should be PG-13 for multiple uses of the dreaded S-word in profanity.
|$49 million
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|''High Noon''
|1952
|UR
|A favorite of both Presidents [[Dwight Eisenhower]] and [[Bill Clinton]]; [[John Wayne]] said it was "the most un-American thing I've ever seen in my whole life";<ref>http://www.brightlightsfilm.com/47/highnoon.php</ref> though susceptible of various interpretations, most of all it seems to scare people into wanting more government.
|$3,750,000
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|''Hoot''
|2006
|PG
|A movie about a bunch of kids who stand up to a CEO company that is trying to put one of its restaurants on a burrowing owl habitat. However the movie contains many morals, and promoting friendship. It does give kids the great inspiration to stand up for what they believe is right.
|$8,117,637
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|''Horrible Bosses 2''
|2014
|R
|Sequel to Horrible Bosses. Though this film could be argued to actually support the American Dream and capitalism, which its processor clearly did not.
|$54,445,357
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|''[[The Hunger Games]]''
|2012
|PG-13
|Futuristic totalitarians plan titular annual televised "games" as punishment on the descendants of failed revolutionaries from a past uprising. Although technically a message against totalitarianism and for individualism, Leftist actor Donald Sutherland, who played President Snow, implied that the struggles of the films' protagonists were supposed to be derived from the Occupy Wall Street movement, and the book's author also indicated that the events of the book were based on the George W. Bush administration.
|$406,267,858
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|''I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry''
|2007
|PG-13
|Portrayals an inside joke of [[same-sex marriage|same-sex "marriage"]] by having [[Adam Sandler]] and Kevin James pretend to be a homosexual couple in order to receive benefits. The villains of the movies are government ranking officials out to prove with they are really homosexual. However contains some scenes of girls in lingerie and Adam Sandler checking out some girls. The film took place prior to the 2011 enactment of the Marriage Equality Act, which claimed to "legalize" "marriage" for same-sex couples in the state. At the time the film was released, the state allowed for residents to file for unregistered cohabitation rights, and various municipal and county governments had offered domestic partnership registries.
|$120,059,556
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|''Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull''
|2008
|PG-13
|Although the film does depict the Communists as bad guys (to such an extent that the Russian Communist Party in Moscow was angered by the decision), and implies that Indiana Jones is a Republican or at the very least an [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] fan, the film also depicts McCarthyism in a negative light, with one character implying that the American Government was simply being paranoid and denies there being a sizeable Communist infiltration in America, and also seems to promote paganism in the form of the Crystal Skull.
|$786.6 million
|-
|''The Iron Giant''
|1999
|PG
|This animation espouses anti-war themes and also brief but strong anti-hunting sentiments. Firearms in general are shown in a negative light, with the phrase "guns kill" being repeated a total of three times. The titular giant is referred to as a "big gun that walks." From a conservative viewpoint, he is a poor metaphor for a real gun; unlike a law-abiding citizen who is a gun owner, the giant has no choice in his actions because he is a war machine programmed with the inability to use his weapons for good, but only to use them thoughtlessly and senselessly. The story involves him learning to hide his weapons and "not be a gun". The conclusion is that, in order to protect the public from an incoming missile, he must fly into it and kill himself rather than use his guns against it. As it is explained, "It's bad to kill, but it isn't bad to die." In addition, despite being set during the Cold War, it largely downplays the Soviet menace that was occurring during that time, as the main antagonist, Kent Mansley, is a government agent (implied to be part of the NSA) investigating the titular Iron Giant who at one point while launching a tirade against Hogarth Hughes alludes to the possibility that the Communists may have been responsible for the Giant's creation as a means to destroy America and that they must destroy it before "it destroys us" and is treated negatively for it. Also features some foul language.

That all being said, however, despite the definite anti-gun and anti-hunting themes, the film does portray the military in a fairly positive light, as General Rogarth was shown to be even-headed and only willing to use military force if confronted with evidence requiring for it, also making clear that he was not happy about bringing out an implied large military force for what was apparently a hoax, and while the military does try to attack the Iron Giant late into the film, it was only because they had been manipulated into doing so by Kent Mansley by the latter lying about the giant killing Hogarth Hughes, and only when confronted with evidence that Hogarth had in fact been alive did the military stand down. In addition, when Hogarth left to investigate the evidence of a "martian" taking out an antenna, he proceeded to salute a photograph of his father, who was implied to have died during World War II. Also has a positive portrayal of the American icon Superman in it. There's also an anti-materialist message in it as well as an implicitly Christian message, as Hogarth talks to the Giant about how humans and other forms of life possess souls that live on even after their mortal bodies die.
|$5,732,614
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|''The Iron Lady''
|2011
|PG-13
|The British biopic of [[Conservative Party]] leader and 1979-90 [[Prime Minister of the United Kingdom|British Prime Minister]], Margaret Thatcher, showing the effects of conservative economic policy on Britain, helping to lift the country out of its recession. However, it also showed Margaret Thatcher in a somewhat negative light, depicting her during her late years as becoming slightly addled.
|$80,554,188 (international including UK), $27,081,674 (US - domestic)
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|''[[It's a Wonderful Life]]''
|1946
|UR
|It promotes the concept of self-worth and individualism ultimately, and that choices do in fact matter and have consequences, and ultimately promotes faith to a certain extent. However, it also falsely teaches that humanism is what makes life worthwhile; marginalizes [[faith]] with a cartoonish depiction and demonizes capitalism as sadistic and greedy.
|$3,300,000
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|''Jaws''
|1975
|PG
|Anti-environmentalism film, the heroes are police chief Brody, WWII vet Quint and Marine Biologist Hooper who team up to take on a monstrous, man-eating great white shark. However, there is a part where (despite the warning) the Mayor keeps the beaches open for the sake of money, which some may say is an anti-capitalism statement. Notable for being one of the first summer blockbusters. It was followed by three sequels in 1978, 1983 and 1987.
|$260,000,000<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=jaws.htm</ref>
|-
|''Juno''
|2007
|PG-13
|A pregnant teenage woman rejects [[abortion]] and decides for an adoptive birth instead. This movie pushes [[feminism]] and marginalizes the essential role of fatherhood.
|$143,492,840
|-
|''Jurassic World''
|2015
|PG-13
|Jurassic Park is now functioning and open for business and the new boss is a woman, an obvious feminist message. Also the military is downgraded as they plan to weaponize dinosaurs. Despite all this feminists weren't impressed and labeled it sexist<ref>https://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/06/10/jurassic-world-a-big-dumb-sexist-mess.html</ref> and even liberal critics called the weaponizing dinosaurs plot asinine.<ref>http://thoughtcatalog.com/olos-nah/2015/06/ill-just-say-what-everyone-is-thinking-jurassic-world-is-terrible/</ref>
|$652,270,625
|-
|''Kiki's Delivery Service''
|1989
|G
|The film does show the value of hard work and is pro-capitalism (Kiki owns her own delivery business), but at the same time depicts feminism and witchcraft in a positive light.
|$18 million
|-
|''Kingdom of Heaven'' (director's cut)
|2005
|R
|A story set in the Crusades period about a young knight. While the theatrical version was a pure liberal media, the director's cut promotes fighting, honor, duty, and portrays the noble Knights Hospitallers in a positive light. That being said, the movie still portrays Knights Templars in a negative light.
|$47,398,413
|-
|''Kingsman: The Secret Service''
|2015
|R
|Anti-environmentalist, the villain attempts to eradicate the human race because of his belief in man-made global warming. Though the film is full of language and violence as well as a brief nudity scene. There's also one scene were one of the characters gets into a bloody fight with a group of Christians whom are portrayed as "racists".
|$128,261,724
|-
|''Knocked Up''
|2007
|R
|Unemployed, immature and childish 23-year old Ben Stone (Seth Rogen) has a one-night stand with serious career woman Alison Scott (Katherine Heigl), with the unintended consequence of pregnancy. Alison's mother (Joanna Kerns) says she should get the pregnancy "[[abortion|taken care of]]", while Ben's best friend Jonah (Jonah Hill) suggests that "I won't say the A-word, but it rhymes with abortion." Alison decides to keep the child, while Ben decides to find a real job, grow up, and become a father.
|$148,768,917
|-
|''The LEGO Movie''
|2014
|PG
|Anti-Large Government, with a message that anyone has the potential to be extraordinary. However is also anti-capitalist, and the main villain is Lord Business.
|$257,760,692
|-
|''Lincoln''
|2012
|PG-13
|Bio film on conservative icon [[Abraham Lincoln]], played wonderfully by Daniel Day-Lewis. Although overall very positive towards Lincoln and the Republican Party, it nonetheless downplays the role the Democrat Party played in the institution of slavery during the Civil War.
|$182,207,973
|-
|''Lionheart''
|1990
|R
|Pro-family as Jean-Claude Van Damme plays Lyon Gaultier (nicknamed Lionheart) who becomes a street fighter to help pay his sister-in-law's expenses after her husband is killed. During this time he also tries to reconnect with his estranged family. However he gets into the country illegally, which some could point out is a pro-illegal immigration statement.
|$24,078,196
|-
|''The Lorax''
|2012
|PG
|Although it has an environmentalist agenda, it also states that monopolies are wrong.
|$214,030,500
|-
|''Mulan''
|1998
|G
|The film has Liberals changing history to suit their feminist agenda similar to what they did in Pocahontas as well as some historical revisionism (In the film the Huns are at war with China, even though this never happened). However, the central theme of [[Filial piety]] from work it was based on, [[The Ballad of Mulan]], is still present ultimately, as the main reason Mulan joined the military was because her father suffered a severe injury that made him unfit for combat, and the film is pro-Military.
|$120,620,254
|-
|''P.C.U.''
|1994
|PG-13
|College students fight back against a campus where the administration promotes official [[diversity]] awareness weekends and radical [[feminism]], [[vegan]]ism, and [[political correctness]] run amok, but a conservative group on campus is also portrayed just as negatively as the P.C. groups.
|$4,350,774
|-
|''[[The Passion of the Christ]]''
|2004
|R
|Downplays the [[Resurrection]]<ref>The original version of the film had no references at all to the Resurrection.</ref> and strength of Christianity and omits powerful angels; instead exaggerates triumph of evil; film had little lasting effect on public or its producer; portrayed nails as through the hands rather than through the wrists as depicted by the [[Shroud of Turin]] and confirmed by modern science.
|$370,782,930
|-
|''Pillow Talk''
|1959
|UR
|A classic starring Rock Hudson and Doris Day in which conservative values triumph over liberal ones. There are no distortions by feminist ideology. Indeed, in one scene a leading man slaps the leading lady, but then is beaten up by dimwitted bystanders for it!
|$18,750,000
|-
|''The Princess and the Frog''
|2009
|G
|Liberals praised this film for featuring Disney's first African American princess but ignored the fact that it insults Christianity with Louisiana Voodoo, even replacing the traditional role of the fairy godmother with a blind voodoo priestess. On top of that, ''The Princess and the Frog'' is said to have stolen much of its plot from great conservative film ''The Little Mermaid'' <ref>http://crowdofstars.livejournal.com/14186.html</ref> That being said, however, it does depict traditional femininity in a positive light in the form of the side character Charlotte LeBoeuf, and is the first Disney animated feature film to have a positive depiction of traditional marriage since ''The Little Mermaid'' two decades prior. It's also debatable as to whether it promotes feminism, as aside from Charlotte LeBoeuf being depicted in a positive light overall as noted above, it implies at one point that Tiana achieving her dreams of being a CEO is ultimately a negative due to the main villain Dr. Facilier using that to tempt her into aiding him.
|$104,400,899
|-
|''Pulp Fiction''
|1994
|R
|Despite saying the F-word in almost every sentence, the film (surprisingly) has a pro-Christian message as after being shot at, every bullet misses mob hit men Jules Winnfield and Vincent Vega. Winnfield believes it was a divine intervention and message from God to stop his life of crime. His partner doesn't believe this but it's later proven to be true as he perished later on in the movie. Also has sadomasochistic homosexuals as the bad guys. And (sort of) has an anti-drug message as mob boss's girlfriend Mia Wallace is seen also overdosing (a negative side to drugs) on heroin.
|$107,928,762
|-
|''The Rescuers''
|1977
|G
|The villain in this movie is a capitalist pawn shop owner, who wants a rare diamond to make her rich, to add insult to injury they're Southerners. Also paints the United Nations in a positive light. On the other hand, the main villain is also a feminist, and the main human protagonist is shown praying for not only herself (even she has been kidnapped) but for all the kids in the orphanage (who have not been kidnapped). This is one of the rare Disney films feature a [[Christian]] character that's treated in a positive light.
|$29 million

|-
|''Robin Hood''
|1973
|G
|Animated Disney adaptation of the iconic story, depicting all of the characters as anthropomorphic animals. Although the story itself was based on [[Joseph Ritson]]'s revised version of the character that was in support of the Jacobin cause and thus was a liberal icon (steals from the rich, gives to the poor), the villain is Prince John who makes his money from taxes, suggesting Robin Hood is only giving money the government demanded back to people who actually worked for it. It also features a condemnation of government encroachment of the church, as a pivotal scene featured the Sheriff of Nottingham explicitly stealing a coin from the poor box and his later arresting Friar Tuck for trying to stop him, and the Sheriff's actions were clearly being framed in a horrible light.
|$32 million
|-
|''[[Rogue One: A Star Wars Story]]''
|2016
|PG-13
|A group of freedom fighters undertake a dangerous mission in an attempt to steal the plans for the Galactic Empire's ultimate weapon, the Death Star. Unlike the previous Star Wars films, the focus of this one is on soldiers on the battlefield, their goal to restore liberty to the Galaxy. This gives the movie a strong feeling of American patriotism, and could also be argued to show respect to the U.S. military. However, the screenwriters Chris Weitz and Gary Whitta made tweets that implied that they were trying to push the leftist Diversity agenda just after Trump won the presidency, as well as used a customized version of the Rebel Starbird logo with a safety pin attached, and one of the main characters, Saw Gerrera, was stated to be based on Marxist revolutionary [[Che Guevara]] and was treated in a (comparably) positive light.
|$1,043,133,586
|-
|''Saw''
|2004-2010, 2017
|R (Director's Cuts are NC-17)
|The franchise contains an anti-nihilist message, with the antagonist, John Kramer, also known as "the Jigsaw Killer," wishing for his victims to survive the "games" in which he places them, ultimately emerging with a better appreciation for their lives. For example, ''Saw'' condemns the adultery committed by Dr. Lawrence Gordon. ''Saw III'' focuses on the value of forgiveness, John having Jeff Denlon complete three tests involving the three people whom he blamed for the death of his young son. ''Saw IV'' contains a very strong message of letting go and letting people find salvation and redemption for themselves, an allusion to biblical passages about the subject. However, it could also be argued that Jigsaw is playing God with the value of human life, by bringing his test subjects to the very edge of death, forcing them to gravely hurt themselves, in order to survive. Furthermore, in ''Saw III'', one of his apprentices, Amanda Young, is revealed to have rigged traps to kill her victims, even if they successfully complete their games, as she no longer believes in Jigsaw's philosophy. However, John is shown clearly shown to be disgusted by Amanda's actions, though nevertheless trying to guide her to redemption, or at least his version of it. Other condemnations of nihilism include the clearly sociopathic depiction of corrupt Detective Mark Hoffman, the most important of Jigsaw's apprentices, as he, like Amanda, strays from John's philosophy and simply rigs traps to murder his victims, while also carrying out the games that John had planned before his death at the end of ''Saw III.''
|$953,421,276
|-
|''Shame''
|2011
|NC-17
|While the movie shows [[Hollywood Values]], such as sex addiction, in a negative light and is clearly anti-[[homosexual agenda]], as the main character reaches his lowest point by partaking in such acts, the film is graphic in its nature leaving one to question how conservative it really is.
|$3,909,002
|-
|''[[The Simpsons]] Movie''
|2007
|PG-13
|This feature based upon the long-running animated sitcom portrays the liberal [[Environmental Protection Agency|EPA]] as a villainous and devious agency and the government in general as intrusive and corrupt. On the other hand, it celebrates [[environmentalism]] in the beginning.
|$183,135,014
|-
|''Soul Man''
|1986
|PG-13
|A white student cheats the [[affirmative action]] system, by pretending to be black in order to get the scholarship he needs for to pay for Harvard. Towards the end, it is revealed he took the scholarship away from someone who needed it as well (and is really black) because she has a son and is divorced at such a young age. The movie portyals the police as racist, and blames racism on many things, and seems to support the need for affirmative action. But on a conservative note, the film teaches the importance of hard work, and is also politically incorrect.
|$27,820,000
|-
|''[[Star Wars]]''
|1977-1983 (Original Trilogy); 1999-2005 (Prequel Trilogy); 2015- (Sequel Trilogy)
|PG, PG-13 (Episode III & Episode VII)
|The well-known space opera series is mostly composed of simple truths about the triumph of good over evil, and in the case of ''Episode VI: Return of the Jedi'', redemption. However, ''Episode VI'' also contained some implied pro-[[Vietcong]] propaganda at George Lucas' behest via the Ewoks, as well as his later claiming that the entirety of the ''Star Wars'' saga from ''Episodes IV''-''VI'' was meant to be his means of protesting Vietnam (which is supported by a memo dating back to 1973 where he claimed the film was about "A large technological empire going after a small group of freedom fighters." It is also to be noted that this was not the first time he voiced support for the Vietcong as well as used film to push an anti-American/anti-War agenda, as he also initially played a role in the filming of ''Apocalypse Now''<ref>http://nypost.com/2014/09/21/how-star-wars-was-secretly-george-lucas-protest-of-vietnam/</ref>), and the re-release for ''Episode IV: A New Hope'' also had an infamous edit where it made it seem as though Greedo shot at Han first, with George Lucas later revealing he did the edit (or rather, falsely claimed it was always that way) as a means to promote gun control. Regarding the pro-Vietcong sentiment being pushed in ''Return of the Jedi'', former president [[Richard Nixon]] in his 1985 book ''No More Vietnams'' cited ''Return of the Jedi'' as ultimately one reason why America, at least by that time, had initially felt so guilty of their strength that they were unwilling to use it even to defend their freedom and that of others.<ref>''No More Vietnams'' by Richard Nixon, 1985 Chapter 1: The assertion that our very bigness is badness has infested our culture to a surprising degree. The creator of the phenomenally successful Star Wars series recently explained that the climactic scene in one of his moves - in which the evil “Empire’s” giant war machines are destroyed by fuzzy little good guys with wooden bows and arrows - was inspired by the Vietnam experience. No matter that in Vietnam the Communist “good guys” packed Soviet automatic rifles and, in 1975, rode state-of-the-art Russian tanks across the South Vietnamese border. The propaganda of disproportionate forces in Vietnam, the myth of small/good versus big/bad, did enough damage to help lose the war for the United States and the people of South Vietnam. Today it is one symptom of the Vietnam syndrome to the extent that it makes Americans ashamed of their power, guilty about being strong, and forgetful about the need to be willing to use their power to protect their freedom and the freedom of others.</ref>

The prequel trilogy also had some implied pot-shots at then-president George W. Bush and his War on Terror, and there was also an implied promotion of moral relativity in ''Revenge of the Sith'' (where Obi-Wan, when confronting Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader in the climax, stated in reply to Anakin's declaration that Obi-Wan is his enemy if he's not with him that "only a Sith deals in absolutes."). A similar promotion of moral relativity and postmodernism was shown in ''Return of the Jedi'' where Obi-Wan admitted that his claim that Vader killed Anakin Skywalker was "true from a certain point of view," as well as further elaborating his claim by stating that "[[Subjectivism|a great many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.]]" The same movie's ending also carries an implicit promotion of cannibalism. In addition, the Trade Federation and its motives in ''The Phantom Menace'' was crafted by George Lucas to be a negative response to the Republican Revolution of 1994, and in particular Newt Gingrich's Contract with America (with Gingrich himself being a partial namesake of the main villain, Viceroy Nute Gunray). ''Attack of the Clones'' and to a lesser extent ''Revenge of the Sith'' also had very blatant anti-war themes and a very negative portrayal of the military, as a large part of the plot involved creating a military for the republic (and in the case of ''Revenge of the Sith'', the near end of the Clone Wars), with the narrative strongly implying that even forming a military at all was somehow a threat to freedom. To a lesser extent, the Prequel trilogy also has a negative depiction of family values, since it's implied that even holding attachments to family or trying to start a family leads directly to turning to the Dark Side, with Yoda even stating that such acted as "the shadow of greed." Lucas, in an interview with Time Magazine, also made similar jabs on family when explaining Anakin's character arc and his eventually becoming Darth Vader, where he said "Because he [Anakin Skywalker] gets attached to things...He can't let go of his mother...his girlfriend...things. It makes you greedy. And when you're greedy, you are on the path to the dark side because you fear that you're going to lose things. You fear you're not going to have the power you need."<ref>https://web.archive.org/web/20020923140712/http://cgi.theforce.net/theforce/tfn.cgi?storyID=15712</ref>

In addition, the director for ''Episode VII: The Force Awakens'', [[J.J. Abrams]], admitted in a press release that he deliberately made Finn black in order to ensure diversity among the characters, hinting at it pushing the leftist [[diversity]] agenda.<ref>https://www.cnet.com/news/director-j-j-abrams-weighs-in-on-diversity-in-the-star-wars-universe/?_escaped_fragment_=#! Two audience members jointly asked Abrams whether -- given his track record of helping build a diverse cast as director of the "Star Trek" reboot films -- he could confirm if there will be more Asian characters in the Star Wars universe. Asian characters are few and far between in the Star Wars franchise -- one appears in the original trilogy's last film, ''Return of the Jedi'', but for only four seconds before dying in a fiery explosion. Abrams said that while he won't be casting future films in the franchise, because he's directing only ''Episode VII'', he did include Asian characters in ''The Force Awakens'', which opened December 18. "I think it's important people see themselves represented in film," Abrams said. "I think it's not a small thing."</ref> Also, the film also hints at a militant [[feminist]] agenda by having Leia act as general and Rey not allowing anyone to save her, something that conservative commentator John Nolte mentioned was a detraction for the film.<ref>https://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/12/17/star-wars-the-force-awakens-review-j-j-abrams-repents-for-the-sins-of-george-lucas/</ref> In addition, the ending award ceremony in ''A New Hope'' was deliberately modeled after the stadium scene from the infamous Nazi movie propaganda ''The Triumph of the Will''. Ian McDiarmid, the actor who played the saga's main villain [[Emperor Palpatine]], had also implied in an interview with ''The Guardian'' around the time ''Revenge of the Sith'' was released that George Lucas had deliberately made the films for primarily eight-year olds specifically to indoctrinate them into Lucas' leftist view of the world.<ref>https://www.theguardian.com/stage/2005/nov/07/theatre1 He [McDiarmid] also bristles at the notion that the Star Wars films are totally hollow entertainments. "I remember when I sat there in the Evil Emperor's swivel chair and George [Lucas] said things like 'does it remind you of the Oval office?' And I realised that at that time Richard Nixon was in his mind. 

"And I see that in the Guardian's review of the DVD - not favourable, of course - mention is made of the fact that there are lines that sound really contemporary. But the reviewer decided that was by chance: no, no, no, no. Entirely by design. 

"George knew that eight-year-olds, for whom these films are primarily intended, are very impressionable, and he wanted to make the right impression. So the whole film is about the unnecessary rise of fascism. In other words: watch out, they're all after your freedom, particularly when they're talking about defending freedom. Without getting over-extended about it, that is at the heart of these movies."</ref>

[[Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi]] also received strong criticism for its apparent 'SJW' bias<ref>Toto, Christian (December 19, 2017). [https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/dec/19/last-jedi-critics-mostly-conservative/ As ‘Star Wars’ fans cheer, conservative film critics point out problems with ‘Last Jedi’]. ''The Washington Times''. Retrieved December 20, 2017.</ref> It is also speculated that the leftist POV pushing caused fans to boycott the 2018 film [[Solo: A Star Wars Story]].<ref>https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/967205/Star-Wars-Han-Solo-FLOP-Last-Jedi-fan-BACKLASH-boycott-box-office-cast-sequel-cameo</ref>
|$460,998,007
|-
|''Starship Troopers''
|1997
|R
|Although it overall depicts the Military in a protagonistic light and arguably is pro-war and pro-military, the director of the film, Paul Verhoeven, implied it was actually supposed to push an anti-military, anti-war message where it implied that America during the Cold War were automatically fascists simply because they are entering war, and specifically stated it was "a natural evolution for post-World War II America." In addition, to reinforce Verhoeven's message, he deliberately modeled various scenes after ''Triumph of the Will'' and other pro-Nazi propaganda scenes, as well as modeled the protagonists' uniforms after the uniforms utilized by the Nazis (i.e., the character Carl, played by Neil Patrick Harris, wearing a uniform that was modeled after the [[SS]]). When asked by Michael Ironside, who was one of the people who had a role in the movie and had read the original book, about why he made the movie despite Verhoeven's leftist politics, he answered "If I tell the world that a right-wing, fascist way of doing things doesn't work, no one will listen to me. So I'm going to make a perfect fascist world: everyone is beautiful, everything is shiny, everything has big guns and fancy ships, but it's only good for killing ******* bugs!" (note that fascism is not "right wing", it is left wing, so Verhoeven's incorrect regarding which wing the Nazis/fascists were part of).
|$54,814,377
|-
|''Sudden Death''
|1995
|R
|Disgraced fire fighter now becomes a laughingstock fire marshal uncovers an terrorist plot at a Hockey game plans to redeem himself and protect his children and the Vice President from said terrorists. However they're not Islamic, which may have been because the film was trying to be politically correct.
|$20,350,171
|-
|''Super''
|2010
|R
|A short-order cook becomes a superhero after a vision from God. He frequently turns to prayer and a Christian television show for guidance. Even though his wife leaves him for a drug dealer, he remains loyal to her for the whole picture. At the same time, foul language, violence, and brief nudity scenes are included.
|$327,716
|-
|''Team America: World Police''
|2004
|R
|While it is clearly pro-military, pro-America, and anti-Hollywood, the movie is riddled with liberal values, including toilet humor and vulgar language throughout. The movie's foul-mouthed theme song favors abortion, slavery, pornography, and Democrats, while having no positive reaction to Republicans, which makes sense because the screenplay was written by the creators of ''[[South Park]]'' and ''The Book of Mormon''.
|$32,786,074
|-
|''[[Titanic]]''
|1997
|PG-13
|Every life has value, and the most powerful men give up their seats on lifeboats to women and children first, while the media and a young [[RINO]] are rightly criticized. The film broke the record in movie revenues before the environmentalist nightmare that was ''Avatar''. However, ''Titanic'' gives some hints at a pro-socialist view, and a key scene involving Rose being drawn in the nude is evocative of pornography.
|$600,779,824
|-
|''[[Trainspotting]]''
|1996
|R
|It's been debatable if the film is anti-drug.
|$16,491,080
|-
|''U-571''
|2000
|PG-13
|Had a plot which was based on the first capture of a [[German]] [[Enigma machine]] in [[World War Two]]. Despite the film being patriotic to America, the facts are wrong as the Enigma machine was captured by the [[British]] in 1941 prior to the Americans entering the war.
|$77,122,415
|-
|''The Twilight Saga''
|2008-2012
|PG-13
|Starred by anti-military liberal [[Kristen Stewart]] and glorifies [[vampire|vampires]], but it also makes fun of [[public school culture]] and [[modernism]] while promoting [[abstinence]] until marriage, traditional courtship and marriage, and the [[pro-life]] movement. It was written by a [[Mormon]].
|$1,365,922,346
|-
|''Van Helsing''
|2004
|PG-13
|Thanks to [[Hollywood values]], Van Helsing isn't portrayed as the Christian character he should be, but the film still gets its good vs. evil message across. As well as portraying the Catholic church in a positive light. The director Stephen Sommers has made conservative films ''The Mummy Returns'' and ''G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra'' though.
|$120,177,084<ref>http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=vanhelsing.htm</ref>
|-
|''Wall-E''
|2008
|G
|The movie shows the dangers of big government (BNL), however it is also anti-capitalist and pro-environmentalism as BNL is a corporation.
|$223,808,164
|-
|''The Way We Were''
|1973
|PG
|Unique in the way that it appears liberal to liberals while unintentionally sending a [[conservative]] message to young women. Stars uber-liberal [[Barbra Streisand]].
|$49,919,870
|-
|''We're the Millers''
|2013
|R
|A drug dealer, stripper, runaway, and average loser pretend to be a family to sneak marijuana out of Mexico. However they learn the value and importance of family. The villains of the movie are all drug gang men, the film also features a stripper scene, and whether or not the film is anti-drug in the end is debatable.
|$150,394,119
|-
|''Yours Mine and Ours''
|2005
|PG
|The widower father of a conservative family marries a widowed mother of a liberal family. Their two difference lifestyles contradict with each other, and the film does not really decide whose lifestyle is better. On the one hand, at one point, the liberal children fool the conservative children into thinking there is a house fire, so they can have the bathrooms for themselves. On the other hand, the children work together in another scene and use conservative tactics to end bullying without the help of an authority figure. In the end, the children learn to put their differences aside and realize that family is what matters more.
|$53,412,862
|}

Please add more!

==References==
{{reflist}}

==See also==
* [[Essay:Greatest Conservative Movies]]
* [[Essay:Worst Liberal TV Shows]]

[[Category:Essays about Liberals]]
[[Category:Cinema]]
[[Category:Hollywood]]
[[Category:Worst Liberal Movies]]
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Jack Chick

2019-04-17T18:53:39Z

DouglasA: let's be honest where the 'criticism' usually comes from

'''Jack Thomas Chick''' (April 13, 1924 – October 23, 2016) was a controversial American [[Evangelical]] Christian cartoonist who produced religious tracts through his company, Chick Publications. According to the Chick Publications website, hundreds of millions of copies of Chick tracts have been read worldwide. Jack Chick himself had limited interaction with the public, leading to speculation that Jack Chick was a pen name for several unnamed authors and artists. He died on October 23, 2016, at the age of 92.<ref>http://www.chick.com/information/authors/chick.asp</ref> [[David Daniels]] now heads Chick Publications as its main cartoonist and spokesperson.

==Chick Tracts==
His works are featured in "Chick Tracts," inexpensive [[comic book]]s designed to be left in public places and to reach out to people who might be passing by. A major theme in his tracts are emotionally wrought portrayals of God's perfect love for his children alongside somewhat more violent images, like homosexuals writhing in agony while being burned alive in the streets of [[Sodom]] and [[Gomorrah]].<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1052/1052_01.asp</ref>

Chick tracts take a Fundamentalist approach to the Bible. Despite his controversial viewpoints on many subjects, the majority of Chick tracts are "Basic Gospel" tracts which emphasize the need for salvation and present it in a manner consistent with traditional Christian theology. Some of the tracts are retellings of Biblical stories in contemporary settings.

Some recurring themes include:
*non-Christian "wicked" characters being converted at the end of the tract while more "moral" non-Christian characters reject Christ (at the end the "wicked" character enters Heaven due to his/her conversion, while the "moral" character enters Hell due to rejection),
*battles over human salvation between angels and demons,
*arguments for evolution being presented by old, aggressive and quick to anger teachers,
*the use of an 'accept Christ' form at the end of tracts (followed by Chick's belief that one should study the King James Bible to better know God), and
*suggestions of demonic influence in even comparatively minor events such as the creation of TV series such as [[Bewitched (TV Show)|Bewitched]].

As a confessing Christian, Chick opposed the views of those who he saw as not having a biblical worldview, including:
*Opponents of the [[King James Only]] movement, of which he was an adherent; whenever a Scripture quote is used in a Chick Tract it is always KJV, and some of his literature claims to show how other translations were from "corrupted texts".
*[[Jews]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0014/0014_01.asp</ref>
*[[Islam|Muslims]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0042/0042_01.asp</ref>
*[[Freemasons]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0093/0093_01.asp</ref>
*[[Jehovah's Witnesses]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0026/0026_01.asp</ref>
*[[Mormonism|Mormons]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0061/0061_01.asp</ref>
*[[Buddhism|Buddhists]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0016/0016_01.asp</ref>
*[[Hinduism|Hindus]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0070/0070_01.asp</ref>
*people that practice witchcraft and/or read Harry Potter,<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/5012/5012_01.asp</ref>
**Although Chick opposed Halloween in general, he took no issue to the custom of passing out candy, considering it an opportunity to pass out his tracts as well. One notable tract portrays a dying girl, given a Chick tract on Halloween night, whereupon she (and her family) accept Christ before she dies that night.<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0063/0063_01.asp</ref>
*[[homosexual]]s,<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0084/0084_01.asp</ref>
*[[evolution]]ists,<ref>http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0106.asp</ref>
*[[Dungeons and Dragons]] players,<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp</ref>
*fans of all types of rock music including Christian rock<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0034/0034_01.asp</ref>

However, no group was the subject of Chick's writings more than the [[Roman Catholic Church]],<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0071/0071_01.asp</ref>: no fewer than 20 tracts promote his opposition, along with a full-length book and a series of six full-length comics defending Alberto Rivera (a controversial and supposed former Catholic priest generally discredited as a fraud by both secular media and the majority of Christians, even those who oppose Catholic teachings)

In response to claim that he hates individuals within these groups or who engage in these practices, Chick responded that this is not the case, but rather that he hates the system they belong to, which is feverishly working to win millions of souls for Satan.<ref>http://www.chick.com/bc/1999/hate.asp</ref>

All Chick tracts, whether currently in print or out of print, can be read for free on the Chick Publications website, as well as samples of other materials. Out-of-print tracts can be ordered with a minimum printing of 10,000.

==Criticism==
Atheist critics have tried to slur Chick, arguing that his tracts rely on stereotypes, faulty logic, and conspiracy theories,<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0007/0007_01.asp</ref> including suggesting that the [[Pope]] is the [[Antichrist]] and that Roman Catholicism actually started Islam, Communism, the Nazi Party and Freemasonry.<ref>http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1077/1077_01.asp</ref> Much of his anti-Catholic work was based on the conspiracy theories of Alberto Rivera, a self-claimed "Catholic bishop" who was later exposed as a fraud and charlatan with a criminal history by Protestant writer Gary Metz in the March 13, 1981 edition of the [[Billy Graham]] publication ''Christianity Today''.<ref>[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2017/11/jack-chicks-lies-real-alberto-rivera-exposed.html Jack Chick’s Lies: The Real Alberto Rivera Exposed]</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://www.chick.com Chick Publications]

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[[Category:Cartoonists]]
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User talk:DouglasA

2019-04-17T18:49:45Z

DouglasA: clean out old talk

Pharrell Williams

2015-01-18T18:38:50Z

DouglasA: grammar

'''Pharrell Williams''' (April 5, 1973) is a singer, rapper, musician, and well-known critic of atheism.

== Religious views ==
Williams calls himself an [[Universalism|Universalist]]. He has criticized [[Atheism|Atheists]] and has said that "it's so incredibly arrogant and pompous. It's amazing that there are people who really believe that."<ref>http://www.christianpost.com/news/singer-pharrell-williams-says-people-who-dont-believe-in-god-are-incredibly-arrogant-pompous-126624/</ref>

== External links ==
*[http://pharrellwilliams.com/ Official website]

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Rappers]]
[[Category:Singers]]

Pharrell Williams

2015-01-18T18:38:25Z

DouglasA:

'''Pharrell Williams''' (April 5, 1973) is a singer, rapper, musician, and well-known critic of atheism.

== Religious views ==
Williams calls himself an [[Universalism|Universalist]]. He also criticizes [[Atheism|Atheists]] and has said that "it's so incredibly arrogant and pompous. It's amazing that there are people who really believe that."<ref>http://www.christianpost.com/news/singer-pharrell-williams-says-people-who-dont-believe-in-god-are-incredibly-arrogant-pompous-126624/</ref>

== External links ==
*[http://pharrellwilliams.com/ Official website]

== References ==
<references/>

[[Category:Rappers]]
[[Category:Singers]]

User talk:Brenden

2013-03-07T20:30:52Z

DouglasA: /* Reverting admins */ new section

{{Useful links}}
[[User talk:Brenden/Archive]]

== Regarding the Anonymous page ==

I've looked into the Anon/WBC incident before for an essay on freedom of speech as it relates to Internet culture, and while both WBC and Anon showed their typical lack of civility and good manners towards each other they didn't violate the 1st Amendment in any way. I might have made a mistake in the report, though, so if you could show me where one side or the other violated 1st Amendment rights I'd be happy to concede the point. [[User:JGrant|Blessings of the Almighty on you :)]] 16:25, 3 October 2012 (EDT)

== Seeing as you've blocked me in the past for sometimes having a less-than-cheerful attitude... ==

....you'll love [http://conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/PaulDiFoglio this guy's] stream of edit comments. Hugs and kisses, [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 21:00, 31 October 2012 (EDT)

== What the hell are you doing? ==

Why have you just unblocked this user - you better have a good reason! [[User:EJamesW|EJamesW]] 17:23, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:No need to block non-malicious morons. Just let them know that they are being ignored.[[User:Brenden|Brenden]] 17:39, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

::DON'T DO IT AGAIN~! Look at the history you moron! [[User:EJamesW|EJamesW]] 17:46, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

You've just made yourself look a total idiot. I can't believe I was the one who recommended for promotion. [[User:EJamesW|EJamesW]] 17:58, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
:::[Comments retracted by poster]<del>Thank you, EJamesW </sarcasm>[[User:Brenden|brenden]] 18:00, 2 November 2012 (EDT)</del>

What does </sarcasm> mean?

Does that mean you're trying to be sarcastic? But you can't think of anything witty or amusing to type?

Brenden, why don't you just say sorry and leave it at that? (Have you looked at the history of User:Reactionary22, you will see that I gave this guy a chance to respond and chandged his block settings.)

I suppose some Christians never can admit they're wrong...

[[User:EJamesW|EJamesW]] 18:17, 2 November 2012 (EDT)

:Ease up E, Brendan has done the same on more than one occasion. Normally we frown upon adjusting others' blocks but no harm, no foul.--[[User:Jpatt|Jpatt]] 19:04, 2 November 2012 (EDT)
::My apologies, I failed to take a look at the history, and the tone you took kind of distracted me from looking. Sorry about that.[[User:Brenden|brenden]] 16:54, 3 November 2012 (EDT)
==Editing==
Editing is fully restored. Sorry I didn't notice this earlier.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:55, 11 November 2012 (EST)
:Thanks, Mr. Schlafly[[User:Brenden|brenden]] 00:39, 12 November 2012 (EST)

==Conservative==
If you have a personal problem with a sysop, you take it up with Aschlafly. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 11:12, 19 November 2012 (EST)

== Personal Honeypot ==

Just registered. I think an interesting experiment/test could be to add a few articles copied from wikipedia into the wiki after deleting all the spam and see if the content of those articles changes what is being written in the spam. Dvergne 23:57, 17 December 2012 (EST)
:I also think we should start and anti-spam squad here to help combat the spam by collecting the IP's and the like and adding those to such sites as Stopforumspam. I also think that copying the spam IP block list from wikipedia is a good Idea as I imagine they would have to have pretty good countermeasures against spam over there. Dvergne 00:02, 18 December 2012 (EST)
==Thanks==
Thank you for your thoughtfulness. My only concern is accuracy and credibility. I think that sometimes, people can't see how a stranger will react to their writing because we all have internal writing voices which remember all of our intentions rather than what is on the page. [[User:Wschact|Wschact]] 01:34, 6 January 2013 (EST)

:Thank you for your tireless work against vandals. Your efforts are appreciated. :-) Regards, [[User:Taj|Taj]] 17:27, 13 January 2013 (EST)

== Spambots ==

It seems the spambots are active again. I might start to port over the new spambot IP blocks from Wikipedia again, as that seamed to be quite efficient at stopping them for a while last time. [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 06:29, 3 February 2013 (EST)

:I think I might upgrade that to very active! Have you been getting much spam at your honeypot mate? [[User:Dvergne|Dvergne]] 19:27, 3 February 2013 (EST)
::It's been ok-ish. I blocked most of the ranges that were targeting my honeypot. [[User:Brenden|brenden]] 19:50, 3 February 2013 (EST)

== I removed your latest round of "personal attacks removed" censorship ==
I think it is poor form to edit talk page comments left by others. If an editor wishes to run afoul of the rules by speaking their mind, it should be their freedom to do so. If that editor happens to be immune to the rules (as with the user in this case), then I think their unfettered comments should stand as testimony to their true nature. Thanks --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 21:16, 7 February 2013 (EST)
:Well, the last time that specific user left his comments, a lot of people were offended. While I agree, that generally, it is inappropriate to censor users, in certain cases, especially when personal attacks are involved, it should be fine. Furthermore, the use of such tags, causes the poster understand that such attacks are not welcome on Conservapedia.

Thanks for your input anyways, though. [[User:Brenden|brenden]] 22:04, 7 February 2013 (EST)

== Editing should work now ==

Try now - your account has been promoted.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:25, 19 February 2013 (EST)
:Thanks! [[User:Brenden|brenden]] 14:59, 19 February 2013 (EST)

==Maybe you're right==

I still retain my suspicion, but if that contributor wants to reregister we should let him. I probably should have enabled account recreation after the block. - [[User:Markman|Markman]] 14:34, 1 March 2013 (EST)

==AlanE==
Thanks Brenden. I needed that! [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 21:20, 6 March 2013 (EST)
:NP [[User:Brenden|brenden]] 21:30, 6 March 2013 (EST)

== Reverting admins ==

Hi Brenden. You do not have the authority to undo admin's blocks. If you have an issue, you raise it. [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 15:30, 7 March 2013 (EST)

Debt

2013-01-25T23:13:08Z

DouglasA: /* National debt */ Not a useful stat, nor true

'''Debt''' refers to an unpaid promise of [[payment]].

==Biblical References==
The [[Bible]] refers to the matter of personal debt and deals with it in a matter of ways. Beginning with the [[Old Testament]], loans and debts formed part of the economy. Loans could be made for a period of no more than six years (the interval between Sabbath years), upon which loans to fellow believers were forgiven. Debts to foreigners were excused from this release.<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2015:1-3&version=KJV; Deuteronomy 15:1-3 (KJV)]</ref> This system of credit was revealed by God as a means to prevent poverty, but was dependent on one's obedience.<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2015:4-5&version=KJV; Deuteronomy 15:4-5]</ref>

In cases (prior to the next Sabbath year) where debts were owed and could not be repaid, it was possible for persons to become indentured servants in order to work off their debts,<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut%2015:12&version=KJV; Deuteronomy 15:12]</ref> which prevented individuals from falling into bankruptcy. The book of [[Proverbs]] makes clear that the rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is the servant of the lender.<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+22:7&version=KJV; Proverbs 22:7]</ref> Because of this, individuals are also discouraged from pledging collateral for another person's loan.<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs%2022:26&version=ESV; Proverbs 22:26 (ESV)]</ref>

The New Testament discusses further the issue of debt, sometimes in a wider sense. In the [[Lord's Prayer]], [[Jesus]] instructed believers to "forgive us our debts, as we forgive us our debtors".<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206:12&version=KJV; Matthew 6:12 (KJV)]</ref> The reference is towards forgiving actions of sin, rather than monetary debt.<ref>[http://versebyversecommentary.com/2008/05/03/matthew-612/; Verse-by-Verse Commentary by Dr. Grant C. Richison]</ref>

In the [[Epistle to the Romans]], the acquisition of monetary debt is discouraged altogether, and to be replaced with a debt of love toward one another.<ref>[http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans%2013:8&version=KJV; Romans 13:8 (KJV)]</ref>

==Personal debt==
It is virtually impossible to go through life without incurring some personal debt. Such debt is commonly generated through taking out loans, often for a house or a car. Credit cards are another source of debt. Where a debt cannot be paid in a specified time, interest is often added to the amount originally owed (the principal). Until the [[Great Depression]], home loan practices were more consistent with the laws of Deuteronomy, in that the maximum term of a home loan was limited to 5-10 years.<ref>[http://www.livestrong.com/article/78589-history-year-mortgages/ The History of 30 Year Mortgages]</ref> By the late 1930s however, changes to Federal legislation allowed for 30-year loans. This had the effect of increasing home ownership levels, but also increasing the amount of personal debt to a high degree.

==National debt==

The United States has the largest national debt in the world.<ref>[http://www.visualeconomics.com/gdp-vs-national-debt-by-country/ GDP vs National Debt by Country]</ref> Regardless of this, [[Barack Obama]] borrowed more in the month of February 2011 ($223 billion) than [[George W. Bush]] did during the entire 2007 budgetary year ($163 billion).<ref>[http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/04/14/asleep_in_dreamland_usa_109552.html ''RealClearPolitics: Obama's Dreamland'']</ref>

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
*[http://chalcedon.edu/research/articles/debt-and-the-church/ ''Debt and the Church'', by Timothy D. Terrell]
*[http://www.openbible.info/topics/debt ''What Does the Bible Say About Debt?'', by Openbible.info]
*[http://www.usdebtclock.org/ U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time]

[[Category:Economics]]

Theory of relativity

2013-01-24T22:34:00Z

DouglasA: word choice?

''See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].''

The '''Theory of Relativity''' is a theory of physics, that proponents argue is the best way to discribe the universe at speeds of near light speed (299,792,458 meters/second). It has been repeatedly confirmed by experiments. Criticism of the theory, however, caused physicist [[Robert Dicke]] to be denied the [[Nobel Prize]] for his flat-out rejection of what has been experimentally confirmed. It is unlikely tenure or a Ph.D would be awarded to any critic of the theory for the same reason.

'''Relativity''' refers to two closely-related mathematical theories in [[physics]]:

*'''[[Special theory of relativity|Special relativity]]''' (SR) is a theory which describes the laws of motion for non-accelerating bodies traveling at a significant fraction of the [[speed of light]]. As speeds approach zero, Special Relativity tends towards equivalence with [[Newton's Laws of Motion]]. Special Relativity was developed by [[Hendrik Lorentz]], [[Henri Poincaré]], and Hermann Minkowski,<ref>"German mathematician who developed the geometrical theory of numbers and who made numerous contributions to number theory, mathematical physics, and the theory of relativity." [http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9052860/Hermann-Minkowski Hermann Minkowski -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia]</ref><ref>[http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Biographies/Minkowski.html Hermann Minkowski, Biography]</ref> and [[Albert Einstein]].

*'''[[General theory of relativity|General Relativity]]''' (GR) is a theory which explains the laws of motion as viewed from accelerating reference frames and includes a geometric explanation for gravity. This theory was developed by [[David Hilbert]] and [[Albert Einstein]] as an extension of the postulates of Special Relativity.<ref>"[T]he German mathematician David Hilbert submitted an article containing the correct field equations for general relativity five days before Einstein."[http://nobelprize.org/educational_games/physics/relativity/history-1.html Nobel Prize historical account]</ref> A dramatic but later discredited claim by Sir [[Arthur Eddington]] of experimental proof of General Relativity in 1919 made Einstein a household name.

These theories have augmented earlier approaches, such as [[Galilean Relativity]].

Unlike most of physics, the theories of relativity have discontinuities whereby the limit of a physical quantity as a variable (such as mass or velocity) approaches a fixed value is not the same as the physical quantity at the fixed value. For example, the limit of momentum as mass approaches 0 and velocity approaches the speed of light is not equal to the momentum of (massless) light.<ref>Discontinuities in General Relativity are also well-recognized. See, e.g., [http://www.springerlink.com/content/u47l341u2q555455/]</ref>

More generally, and also unlike most of physics, the theories of relativity consist of complex mathematical equations relying on several hypotheses. For example, at Hofstra University general relativity is taught as part of an upperclass math course on differential geometry, based on three stated assumptions.<ref>http://people.hofstra.edu/Stefan_Waner/diff_geom/tc.html</ref> The equations for special relativity assume that it is forever impossible to attain a velocity faster than the speed of light and that all inertial frames of reference are equivalent, hypotheses that can never be fully tested. Relativity rejects Newton's [[action at a distance]], which is basic to Newtonian gravity and [[quantum mechanics]]. The mathematics of relativity assume no exceptions, yet in the time period immediately following the origin of the universe the relativity equations could not possibly have been valid.

Relativity has been met with much resistance in the scientific world. To date, a Nobel Prize has never been awarded for Relativity.<ref>Increasingly the Nobel Prize Committee has attempted to relate its physics awards to Relativity in some way, including perhaps 20 of the more recent prizes.</ref> Louis Essen, the man credited with determining the speed of light, wrote many fiery papers against it such as ''The Special Theory of Relativity: A Critical Analysis''.<ref>http://ephysics.fileave.com/physics/Essen/oxford5-essen.pdf</ref> Relativity is in conflict with [[quantum mechanics]],<ref>For example, Relativity claims that space and time are smooth and continuous, while [[quantum mechanics]] suggests otherwise. [http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/Cool-Astronomy/2010/1025/Is-the-universe-a-big-hologram-This-device-could-find-out.] Relativity also denies [[action-at-a-distance]], while quantum mechanics suggests otherwise. Relativity denies any role for chance, while quantum mechanics is heavily dependent on it.</ref> and although theories like [[string theory]] and [[quantum field theory]] have attempted to unify relativity and quantum mechanics, neither has been entirely successful or proven.

Unlike [[Classical mechanics|Newtonian physics]], in which space and time intervals are each invariant as seen by all observers, in SR the only invariant quantity is a quadratic combination of space and time intervals (x2 - c2 t2). The (assumed) instantaneous transmission of Newtonian gravitational effects also contradicts special relativity.

In quantum mechanics, the [[uncertainty principle]] suggests that virtual particles can sometimes travel faster than the speed of light which would violate causality, but "[t]he only known way to resolve this tension involves introducing the idea of antiparticles."<ref>http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/2004/wilczek-lecture.pdf (p. 102)</ref> Consequently, in 1928 Paul Dirac derived the Dirac equation, one of the first quantum mechanical equations compatible with special relativity, by which Dirac predicted the existence of antimatter. Four years later, antimatter (the positron) was discovered by Carl Anderson, as successfully predicted by relativistic quantum mechanics. [[Quantum field theory]], a generalization of quantum mechanics, is fully compatible with special relativity but not with general relativity, and still lacks a vital piece: evidence of the [[graviton]].

== Special Relativity ==
Lorentz and Poincare developed Special Relativity as way of understanding how Maxwell's equations for electromagnetism could be valid in different frames of reference. Einstein famously published an explanation of Poincare's theory in terms of two assumptions (postulates):

# ''The [[speed of light]] is constant for all (inertial) observers, regardless of their velocities relative to each other.''
# ''The laws of physics are identical in all inertial reference frames.''

In layman's terms, these two assumptions can be restated as:
# It is impossible ever to transmit information faster than the speed of light.<ref>This assumption is commonly restated in this manner. For example, a discussion of hypothetical [[tachyons]] talks "about using tachyons to transmit information faster than the speed of light, '''in violation of Special Relativity'''."[http://www.math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/ParticleAndNuclear/tachyons.html] However, there is some question whether the Theory of Special Relativity really restricts faster-than-light communication of information.</ref>
# The laws of physics are identical, without any variation, in every location throughout the universe.
# The laws of physics are identical, without any variation, no matter how fast something is traveling (in the absence of acceleration).

Or, in more concise, clearer terms, these assumptions are this:

#there is no [[action at a distance]] (because that would make observations dependent on the frame of reference)
#space and time are completely symmetric throughout the universe (because otherwise frames of reference would not be interchangeable)

When the assumptions are stated clearly as above, the weaknesses in the theory are more apparent. There “is” action at a distance in [[quantum entanglement]] and apparently also in gravity, as no gravitons can be found. However, no information has yet been transmitted via quantum entanglement, so while non-locality violates the spirit of relativity it is consistent with it if relativity is limited to the transmission of information. [[Quantum field theory]], an attempt to partially reconcile [[quantum mechanics]] with relativity, is incomplete at best. As to the second assumption, it is contrary to the [[arrow of time]], which illustrates the lack of symmetry in time. Logical defects include the incoherence of relativistic mass (see discussion below) and the lack of relativistic constraints near the beginning the universe (see above).

Special Relativity (SR) was initially developed by [[Henri Poincaré]] and [[Hendrik Lorentz]], working on problems in electrodynamics and the [[Michelson-Morley experiment]], which had not found any sign of [[aether (science)|luminiferous aether]], which was believed to be the substance which carried electromagnetic waves. Special relativity alters [[Isaac Newton]]'s laws of motion by assuming that the speed of light will be the same for all observers, despite their relative velocities and the source of the light. (Therefore, if A sends a beam of light to B, and both measure the speed, it will be the same for both, no matter what the relative velocity of A and B. In Newtonian/Galilean mechanics, If A sends a physical object at a particular velocity towards B, and nothing slows it, the velocity of the object relative to B depends on the velocities of the object and of B relative to A.)

At low speeds (relative to light-speed), the Lorentz-Poincare relativity equations are equivalent to Newton's equations. The media-promoted equation ''[[E=mc²]]'', implausibly suggests a relationship between typically unrelated concepts of energy, the rest mass of a body and the speed of light.

Under relativity, particles at low mass and low speed can be accurately approximated by [[classical mechanics]] (such as [[Isaac Newton]]'s laws of motion). At the two extremes, modeling the behavior of electrons requires that relativistic effects be taken into account (the chemically significant phenomenon of electron spin arises from relativity), and the course light passing through a region containing many massive bodies such as galaxies will be distorted ([[classical mechanics]], in which light travels in straight lines, does not predict this). These are both experimentally confirmed (electron spin was known before relativity arose, and telescopic observations confirm that galactic clusters distort the paths of the light passing through them).

Many scientists have indicated problems with the postulates of special relativity. Paul Davies, formerly of Macquarie University and now at the University of Arizona believes that the speed of light has changed over time. Since the speed of light is a constant speed 'c' this indicates problems with the theory [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2181455.stm light speed]. Other engineers and scientist have written about problems in the basic set of special relativity equations. Based on the ideas of not Einstein but of the scientist Fitzgerald as well as others, a length contraction effect was predicted as an explanation of the failure of the Michelson Morley experiment. This idea was taken up by Hendrik Lorentz and shown by others to be a useful mechanism by which theory could be forced into conformance with experimental results. However, in 2005, Michael Strauss a computer engineer invalidated much of Special Relativity theory by showing clear contradictions in the theory. [http://www.relativitycollapse.com relativity]

== General Relativity ==

General Relativity is a theory of gravity that is compatible with Special Relativity. Einstein explains a thought experiment involving two elevators. The first elevator is stationary on the Earth, while the other is being pulled through space at a constant acceleration of g. Einstein realized that any physical experiment carried out in the elevators would give the same result. This realization is known as the equivalence principle and it states that accelerating frames of reference and gravitational fields are indistinguishable. General Relativity is the theory of gravity that incorporates Special Relativity and the equivalence principle.

General Relativity is a mathematical extension of Special Relativity. GR views space-time as a 4-dimensional [[manifold]], which looks locally like [[Minkowski space]], and which acquires [[curvature]] due to the presence of massive bodies. Thus, near massive bodies, the geometry of space-time differs to a large degree from [[Euclidean geometry]]: for example, the sum of the angles in a triangle is not exactly 180 degrees. Just as in classical physics, objects travel along [[geodesic]]s in the absence of external forces. Importantly though, near a massive body, geodesics are no longer straight lines. It is this phenomenon of objects traveling along geodesics in a curved spacetime that accounts for gravity.

At one time the anomalous precession of Mercury's [[perihelion]] seemed to support the Theory of General Relativity, but increasingly accurate measurements show a divergence of the data from the theory.<ref>[[Counterexamples to Relativity]].</ref> There are other explanations based in Newtonian gravity, such as factoring in the pull of the other planets on Mercury's orbit. One Newtonian explanation requires a slight alternation to the precise inverse-square relation of Newtonian gravity to distance, which is disfavored by mathematicians due to its inelegance in integrating.

British Historian Paul Johnson declares the turning point in 20th century to have been when fellow Briton Sir [[Arthur Eddington]], an esteemed English astronomer, ventured out on a boat off Africa in 1919 with a local Army unit to observe the bending of starlight around the sun during a total eclipse. Upon his return to England declared that his observations proven the theory of relativity. In fact recent analysis of Eddington's work revealed that he was biased in selecting his data, and that overall his data were inconclusive about the theory of relativity. The prediction was later confirmed by more rigorous experiments, such as those performed by the [[Hubble Space Telescope]] <ref>[http://www.spaceimages.com/gravlen.html Hubble Gravitational Lens Photo]</ref><ref> [http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/galaxies/lensing.html Gravitational Lensing] </ref><ref>[http://www.iam.ubc.ca/~newbury/lenses/glgallery.html]</ref>. Lorentz has this to say on the discrepancies between the empirical eclipse data and Einstein's predictions.

::''It indeed seems that the discrepancies may be ascribed to faults in observations, which supposition is supported by the fact that the observations at Prince's Island, which, it is true, did not turn out quite as well as those mentioned above, gave the result, of 1.64, somewhat lower than Einstein's figure.''<ref>Lorentz, H.A. [http://ia331314.us.archive.org/2/items/theeinsteintheor11335gut/11335-h/11335-h.htm The Einstein Theory of Relativity]</ref>

The prediction that light is bent by gravity is predicted both by Newtonian physics and relativity, but relativity predicts a larger deflection.

Special relativity is the limiting case of general relativity where all gravitational fields are weak. Alternatively, special relativity is the limiting case of general relativity when all reference frames are inertial (non-accelerating and without gravity).

==Lack of evidence for Relativity==
The Theory of relativity assumes that time is symmetric just as space is, but the biggest early promoter of relativity, Arthur Eddington, coined the term "[[arrow of time]]" admitting how time is ''not'' symmetric but is directional. The passage of time is tied to an increase in disorder, or [[entropy]]. The Theory of relativity cannot explain this, and implicitly denies it, specifically allowing for theoretical time travel (e.g., [[wormholes]]) and different rates of passage of time based on velocity and acceleration.

Claims that relativity was used to develop the [[Global Positioning System]] ([[GPS]]) are false. A 1996 article explains:

:"The Operational Control System (OCS) of the Global Positioning System (GPS) does not include the rigorous transformations between coordinate systems that Einstein's general theory of relativity would seem to require - transformations to and from the individual space vehicles (SVs), the Monitor Stations (MSs), and the users on the surface of the rotating earth, and the geocentric Earth Centered Inertial System (ECI) in which the SV orbits are calculated. There is a very good reason for the omission: the effects of relativity, where they are different from the effects predicted by classical mechanics and electromagnetic theory, are too small to matter - less than one centimeter, for users on or near the earth."<ref>http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1996/Vol%2028_16.pdf</ref><ref>Some do claim that relativity is "vital" to GPS even though GPS developed independently of theoretical predictions and theoreticians disagree about how the relativistic effects for GPS should be calculated. ''See id. See also'' [http://www.rand.org/pubs/monograph_reports/MR614/MR614.appb.pdf]</ref>

This article, which was published in 1996, goes on to propose relativistic corrections that might be used to design more accurate GPS systems. Clocks on board GPS satellites require adjustments to their clock frequencies if they are to be synchronized with those on the surface of the Earth.

Tom Van Flandern, an astronomer hired to work on GPS in the late 1990s, concluded that "[t]he GPS programmers don't need relativity." He was quoted as saying that the GPS programmers "have basically blown off Einstein."<ref>http://archive.salon.com/people/feature/2000/07/06/einstein/index.html See also [http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system/gps/absolute-gps-1meter-3.ASP], where Van Flandern discusses how relativistic corrections might improve GPS accuracy.</ref> Asynchronization can be easily addressed through communications between the satellites and ground stations, so it is unclear why any theory would be needed for GPS. While Van Flandern believed that relativity is unnecessary for GPS, he also asserted that observations of GPS satellites supported both general and special relativity, writing that "we can assert with confidence that the predictions of relativity are confirmed to high accuracy over time periods of many days," with unrelated factors interfering with longer-term observations. <ref>http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp</ref>

Some internet articles claim that GPS timing differences ''confirm'' the Theory of Relativity or its Lorentzian counterpart (which uses a preferred frame of reference). GPS clocks run slower in the weaker gravitation field of the satellites than on ground stations on Earth, with the effects predicted by general relativity far outweighing the effects predicted by special relativity. However, the articles claiming that the slower GPS satellite clocks confirm relativity do not address the effect, if any, of the weaker gravitational force under Newton's theory on the GPS satellite clocks, likely because in Newtonian Mechanics every clock in the universe keeps time at the same rate regardless of velocity, acceleration, or the presence or absence of force.

Currently, GPS satellites are synchronized to Coordinated Universal Time by radio signals from the ground; therefore, they cannot currently be used to test general relativity.<ref>[http://www.phys.lsu.edu/mog/mog9/node9.html "General Relativity in the Global Positioning System."] Neil Ashby, U. of Colorado</ref>

There are claims that the effects of relativity have been observed with the frequency shift of the signal being sent back to [[Earth]] several times as various spacecraft have dipped into the gravity wells around massive objects such as the [[sun]] (see image at right)<ref>[http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/news/press-releases-03/20031002-pr-a.cfm Saturn-Bound Spacecraft Tests Einstein's Theory]</ref> or Saturn<ref>[http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg12517102.600-science-encounter-with-saturn-confirms-relativity-theory.html Encounter with Saturn confirms relativity theory]</ref>. A satellite called [[Gravity Probe B]] was put in orbit about the Earth to examine the effects of frame dragging and geodetic warping of space<ref>[http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/gpb/index.html NASA Gravity Probe B mission page]</ref><ref>[http://einstein.stanford.edu/ Gravity Probe B project page]</ref>, but the results were inconclusive. Note, however, that Newtonian mechanics also predicts deflection of light by gravity, and in the initial theory of relativity it predicted the same amount of deflection, but only if we treat light as capable of being accelerated and decelerated like ordinary matter, which is contrary to all measurements and observations to date.<ref>http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-03/6-03.htm</ref> Adjustments to the theory of relativity resulted in a prediction of a greater deflection of light than that predicated by Newtonian mechanics, though it is debatable how much deflection Newtonian mechanics should predict.

None of the NASA spacecraft incorporates predictions of relativity into their own timing mechanisms, as Newtonian mechanics is adequate even for probes sent deep into space so long as they do not undergo accelerations near the speed of light or enter any massive gravity wells.<ref>There is no reported reliance on relativity by any space probe.</ref>

A decade of observation of the [[pulsar]] pair [[PSR 1913 16|PSR B1913+16]] detected a decline in its orbital period, which was attributed to a loss in energy by the system. It is impossible to measure the masses of the pulsars, their accelerations relative to the observers, or other fundamental parameters. Professors Joseph Taylor and Russell Hulse, who discovered the binary pulsar, found that physical values could be assigned to the pulsars to make the observed decline in orbital period consistent with the Theory of General Relativity, and for this they were awarded the 1993 [[Nobel Prize]] for Physics, which is the only award ever given by the Nobel committee for the Theory of Relativity.<ref>http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1993/press.html</ref> In 2004, Professor Taylor utilized a correction to the derivative of the orbital period to fit subsequent data better to the theory. At most, assumptions can be made and altered to fit the data to the theory, rather than the data confirming the theory.

The [[perihelion]] of Mercury's [[orbit]] [[precession|precesses]] at a measurable rate, but even after accounting for gravitational perturbations caused all other planets in the [[solar system]], Newton's theory (assuming a precise inverse-square relationship for distance) predicts a rate of precession that differs from the measured rate by approximately 43 [[arcsecond]]s per century. General relativity was developed in part to provide an estimate for this rate of precession that better matches observations.<ref>http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node98.html#SECTION032121000000000000000</ref> <ref> http://www.alberteinstein.info/gallery/pdf/CP6Doc30_English_pp146-200.pdf</ref> <ref> http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/336k/lectures/node117.html</ref> Newton's theory can also explain this perihelion by making tiny adjustments to parameters in the gravitational equation.

General relativity predicts twice as much bending in light as it passes near massive objects than Newton's theory might predict.<ref>http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-03/6-03.htm</ref> This phenomenon is known as [[gravitational lens|gravitational lensing]]. A large number of instances of gravitational lensing have been observed, and it is now a standard astronomical tool.<ref> http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/features/news/grav_lens.html</ref> <ref> http://astro.berkeley.edu/~jcohn/lens.html</ref> <ref> http://www.iam.ubc.ca/~newbury/lenses/glgallery.html</ref> Note, however, that the extent of bending of light predicted by Newton's theory is open to debate, and depends on assumptions about the nature of light for gravitational purposes.<ref>http://cosmictimes.gsfc.nasa.gov/1919/guide/gravity_bends_starlight.html</ref>

In 1972, scientists flew extremely accurate clocks ("atomic clocks") around the world in both directions on commercial airlines, and claimed to observe relativistic time dilation; the eastbound clock gained 273 ns and the westbound clock lost 59 ns, matching the predictions of general relativity to within experimental accuracy.<ref>[http://www.answers.com/topic/hafele-keating-experiment Hafele-Keating Experiment]</ref> However, the inventor of the atomic clock, Louis Essen, declared that the experiment was inaccurate.<ref>Louis Essen, Electron. Wireless World 94 (1988) 238.</ref> Dr A. G. Kelly examined the raw data from the experiment and declared it inconclusive.<ref>A. G. Kelly,Reliability of Relativistic Effect Tests on Airborne Clocks, Monograph No.3 Feb.1996, The Institution of Engineers of Ireland, ISBN 1-898012-22-9</ref> The Nobel Committee chose not to honor this experiment for the significance that was claimed.

Despite [[censorship]] of dissent about relativity, evidence contrary to the theory is discussed outside of [[liberal]] universities.<ref>http://scitizen.com/screens/blogPage/viewBlog/sw_viewBlog.php?idTheme=8&idContribution=922</ref>

==Experiments that Fail to Prove Relativity==

The different effects predicted by special relativity, compared to classical formulations, are extremely tiny. Most relativistic effects are negligible at the speeds of ordinary phenomena observed by humans. The effects only become significant when the speeds involved are a significant fraction of the speed of light, which is <math>3 \times 10^8</math> meters per second—such speeds are called ''relativistic''. (However, it's worth noting that ordinary magnetism can be considered an effect of relativity, dictated by the need for electrostatic theory to be correct under relativity. The speed of light in fact appears in the formulas ([[Maxwell's Equations]]) governing electricity and magnetism, though these equations were developed long before relativity was proposed.)

Because the effects of relativity are so tiny, scientists have been devising sophisticated and sensitive tests ever since the theory was formulated in 1905.

*At the end of Einstein's original 1905 paper [http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/www/ "Does the Inertia of a Body Depend its Energy Content?"], he speculates on the possibility that the equation <math>E = m c^2</math>, which would normally be very hard to verify, could be verified with the extremely high energies of the newly-discovered phenomenon of radioactivity.<ref>This equation is not related to [[quantum mechanics]].</ref> In the 1910's, with the invention of the mass spectrometer, it became possible to measure masses of nuclei accurately. This led to the clearing up of the mystery of atomic masses not being exact integers,and strongly suggested the existence of a "mass defect" (or "packing fraction") consistent with the mass-energy equivalence. In the 1930's, experiments with known nuclear reactions showed a very accurate correlation between the masses of the nuclei involved and the energy released.

*Another prediction of special relativity was time dilation in rapidly moving objects. This effect was most famously verified in the anomalously slow decay of relativistic cosmic muons<ref>Some have suggested that other explanations are possible for this effect. We are trying to track this down.</ref>. Time dilation has since been verified many times, and is routinely taken into account in all high-energy nuclear physics experiments, as in Hadron collision experiments<ref>Experiments specifically designed to check dilation are rarely conducted any more.</ref>.

Predictions of general relativity turned out to be more obscure and difficult to test. The two most famous predictions were the bending of light in a gravitational field and the precession of the perihelia of orbiting planets.

*The first of these was famously tested during a total eclipse in 1919. That test was somewhat muddled by an incorrect initial calculation, by several people including Einstein himself, of what the effect would be, and some "cherry picking" of the data to be used <ref>''Einstein's Luck'', John Waller, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-860719-9</ref>. The data selection could be considered "manipulation" or "fudging", by a person (Arthur Eddington) who had a personal stake in the outcome. His analysis techniques would not pass muster today.

:It should be noted that pre-relativistic (Newtonian) physics may also predict a bending, of half the observed value, depending on whether one uses the 17th century "corpuscular" formulation or the 19th century "wave" formulation.

:Nevertheless, it has been verified with ever-increasing precision in subsequent eclipses, and in the observations of quasar 3C273.

*The second "classical" test of general relativity was the advance of the perihelion of the orbit of Mercury. There are many complex effects contributing to this, including gravitational perturbations from other planets and the effect of the oblateness of the Sun. These are hard to calculate accurately, but, by 1900 it was known quite accurately that there was an "anomalous" precession, that is, a precession beyond all other known effects, of 43 arc seconds per century. This is a very tiny effect, but astronomical measurements were sufficiently accurate by that time to show it clearly.

:This created quite a problem—physicists by then were accustomed to having their theories check out very accurately. One proposal that was made, by Simon Newcomb and Asaph Hall, was that the exponent of the radius in the gravitational formula wasn't exactly 2. He showed that, by choosing an exponent of <math>2+\delta</math>, the precession, as a fraction of a full orbit per planet's year, is <math>\delta/2</math>. By setting <math>\delta</math> to .000000157, that is, an exponent of 2.000000157, Newcomb was able to get a precession of .000000078 revolutions per Mercury year, or 43 arcseconds per Earth year. The primary resistance to this approach came from mathematicians unable to do the integration without an exponent of precisely 2, and they insisted, incorrectly, that was impossible for the exponent to be slightly different from 2. Due to this desire for mathematical elegance rather than objective observation-based science, Newcomb's approach was not pursued. Furthermore as can be seen from the table below the measured values of the anomalous precessions of other planets agree well with the predictions of general relativity but poorly with those predicted by Newcomb and Hall.

:While Newcomb's theory, and general relativity, don't lead to closed-form solutions, both theories can be solved numerically to as much precision as one desires.

:Increasingly precise measurements of the precession demonstrate that it conflicts with General Relativity, despite claims of relativists for decades that it predicted the precession accurately in the amount of <math>3{}v^2/c^2</math> revolutions per planet's "year", where <math>v</math> is the planet's average orbital speed.<ref>That is a simple approximation, designed to relate the precession to the planet's speed relative to the speed of light. A more accurate approximation is <math>\frac{3GM}{c^2 a(1-e^2)}</math>, where a is the semi-major axis and e is the eccentricity.</ref> The conflict is greater than the margin of error, and many relativists avoid the discrepancy rather than address it.

:The following table show some approximate parameters for the planets. Note that Mercury has the smallest orbit, the fastest speed, and the highest gravitational pull. Precession of planets other than Mercury is extremely hard to measure, but measurements of the actual anomalous precessions are in good agreement .<ref>http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-02/6-02.htm</ref>

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Planet
!Period, seconds x 106
!Semimajor axis, meters x 109
!Speed, meters/second x 103
!Gravitational force, Newtons per kilogram
!Anomalous precession, arcseconds per (Earth) century, pure Newtonian mechanics
!Anomalous precession, Newtonian with exponent of 2.000000157
!Anomalous precession, general relativity
!Measured anomalous precession (estimated uncertainty)<ref>http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-02/6-02.htm</ref>
|-
|Mercury
|7.57
|58.9
|48
|.039
|0
|43
|43
|43.5(5)
|-
|Venus
|19.6
|108
|35
|.011
|0
|16.6
|9
|8(5)
|-
|Earth
|31.6
|150
|30
|.006
|0
|10.3
|4
|5(1)
|-
|Mars
|59.3
|227.9
|24
|.0025
|0
|5.5
|1.4
|
|-
|Jupiter
|374
|778.4
|13
|.0002
|0
|0.87
|0.07
|
|-
|Saturn
|929
|1426
|9.7
|.00006
|0
|0.35
|0.014
|
|-
|Uranus
|2651
|2870
|6.8
|.000016
|0
|0.12
|0.002
|
|-
|Neptune
|5200
|4498
|5.5
|.000007
|0
|0.063
|0.0008
|
|}

[[Image:Cassini-science-289.jpg|right|thumb|The Shapiro effect: A spacecraft signal dipping into a gravity well around the [[Sun]] is delayed slightly.]]
As the 20th century progressed, more tests of general relativity were proposed.

*One was the ''Shapiro effect'', involving time delay in radio signals passing through the gravity well of the Sun or a planet. Various spacecraft have confirmed this.

*Another is ''gravitational time dilation''. This is an effect separate from the time dilation of special relativity. It was tested by the Pound-Rebka experiment in 1959.

*Later in the 20th century, even more subtle phenomena were tested. One was the phenomenon of ''gravitational radiation'', or "gravity waves". These waves are incredibly difficult to observe, and have never been observed. But extremely dense binary pulsars radiate gravitational waves with sufficient energy loss that, even though we can't detect the waves from Earth, we can see the effect of the energy loss from the radiation. The extreme precision of the timing of pulses from pulsars makes it possible to observe their energy loss with great accuracy. Observations by Hulse and Taylor of the pulsar pair known as B1913+16, if assumptions are made, could make the energy loss appear consistent with the predicted radiation. Those observations have not been followed up with more recent, precise data, raising questions about whether the pulsar data is consistent with the theory today.

*Two other effects, ''geodetic precession'' (also known as "de Sitter precession"), and ''frame dragging'' (also known as the "Lense-Thirring effect") were tested by the "Gravity Probe B" satellite early in the 21st century<ref>http://prl.aps.org/accepted/L/ea070Y8dQ491d22a28828c95f660a57ac82e7d8c0</ref><ref>http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/306430</ref><ref>http://www.nap.edu/html/gpb/summary.html</ref><ref>http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/73870/title/Gravity_Probe_B_finally_pays_off_</ref><ref>http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/gpb/</ref><ref>http://einstein.stanford.edu/</ref><ref>http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/space-flight/the-gravity-probe-b-bailout</ref><ref>http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/06/nasa-concludes-gravity-probe-b-space-time-experiment-proves-e/</ref>. The precision required to observe this was phenomenal. The results were announced on May 4, 2011.

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==Predicted consequences of the Theories==
===Time dilation===

[[Image:Light cone.png|right|thumb|Light-cone diagram]]
One important consequence of SR's postulates is that an observer in one reference frame will observe a clock in another frame to be "ticking" more slowly than in the observer's own frame. This can be proven mathematically using basic geometry, if the postulates are physically true without exception.

The length of an event <math>t</math>, as seen by a (relative) stationary observer observing an event is given by:

<math> t = \frac{t_{0}} {\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}</math>

Where
:<math>t_0</math> is the "proper time" or the length of the event in the observed frame of reference.
:<math>v</math> is the relative velocity between the reference frames.
:<math>c</math> is the speed of light (3x108 ms-1).

Evidence for time dilation was discovered by studying [[muon decay]]. [[Muons]] are [[subatomic]] [[particles]] with a very short [[halflife]] (1.53 microseconds at rest) and a very fast speed (0.994c). By putting muon detectors at the top (D1) and bottom (D2) of a mountain with a separation of 1900m, scientists could measure accurately the proportion of muons reaching the second detector in comparison to the first. The proportion found was different to the proportion that was calculated without taking into account relativistic effects.

Using the equation for [[exponential decay]], they could use this proportion to calculate the time taken for the muons to decay, relative to the muon. Then, using the time dilation equation they could then work out the dilated time. The dilated time showed a good correlation with the time it took the muons to reach the second sensor, thereby supporting the existence of time dilation.

The time taken for a muon to travel from D1 to D2 as measured by a stationary observer is:

<math> t = \frac{s}{v} = \frac{1900}{0.994\times(3\times10^{8})} = 6.37\mu\textrm{s} </math>

The fraction of muons arriving at D2 in comparison to D1 was 0.732. (Given by <math> \frac{N}{N_0} = 0.732 </math>)

Since (from the equation for exponential decay) <math> \frac{N}{N_{0}} = e^{-\lambda t_{0}} </math> then

<math> t_{0} = \frac {ln(0.732)}{ln (0.2)} \times 1.53\times 10^{-6} = 0.689\mu\textrm{s}</math>

This gives the time for the proportion of decay to occur for an observer who is stationary, relative to the muon.

Putting this into the time dilation equation gives:

<math> t = \frac{t_{0}}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}} = \frac{0.689 \times{10^{-6}}}{\sqrt{1 - \frac{0.994^{2}}{1^{2}}}} = 6.3\times 10^{-6}\textrm{s}</math>

This is in good agreement with the value calculated above, thereby providing evidence to support time dilation.

====Time Dilation and Creation Science====

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Creation scientists such as physicists Dr. [[Russell Humphreys]] and Dr. [[John Hartnett]] have used relativistic time dilation to explain how the earth can be only 6,000 years old even though cosmological data (background radiation, supernovae, etc.) set a much older age for the universe.

===Length contraction===
When two inertial reference frames move past each other in a straight line with constant relative velocity, an observer in one reference frame would observe a metre rule in the other frame to be shorter.

The length, <math>l</math>, of an object as seen by a (relative) stationary observer is given by:

<math> l = l_{0} \sqrt{1- \frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}</math>

Where
:<math>l_0</math> is the "proper length" or the length of the object in the observed frame of reference.
:<math>v</math> is the relative velocity between the reference frames.
:<math>c</math> is the speed of light (3x108 ms-1).

===Mass increase===

For decades the theory of relativity taught that as a body moves with increasing velocity its [[mass]] also increases.<ref>For example, this was taught as recently as in the 1991 edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica.</ref>

Under this view, the mass, <math>m</math>, of an object as detected by a (relative) stationary observer is given by:

:<math> m = \frac{m_{0}} {\sqrt{1 - \frac{v^{2}}{c^{2}}}}</math>

Where
:<math>m_0</math> is the "rest mass" or the mass of the object when it is at rest.
:<math>v</math> is the relative velocity of the object.
:<math>c</math> is the speed of light (3x108 ms-1).

Since speed is relative, it follows that two observers in different inertial reference frames may disagree on the mass and kinetic energy of a body. Since all inertial reference frames are treated on an equal footing, it follows that mass and energy are interchangeable.

In recent years most physicists have shifted away from Einstein's original reliance on relativistic mass and his suggestion that mass increases{{Citation needed|date=January 2012}}. Instead, most physicists today teach that

:<math>F=\frac{d}{d\tau} p</math>

where <math>p</math> is the momentum defined by <math>\gamma m v</math>, <math>\gamma</math> is the standard Lorentz factor, and <math>\tau</math> is the proper time. Force F defined this way is a vector and thus can handle the directional aspect of the relativistic effects better than the concept of relativistic mass can.

The abandonment by physicists of the concept of relativistic mass, however, has the consequence of undermining the traditional claim under relativity that

:<math>m - m_0 = \frac{E}{c^2}</math>

also popularly known as

:<math>E = m c^2</math>

Now a concept of the 4-momentum <math>p</math> of a particle is taught, such that the square of the magnitude of <math>p</math> satisfies:

<math>||p||^2 = -p_x^2-p_y^2-p_z^2+E^2 = m_0^2c^4</math>

in any inertial reference frame. The magnitude of the 4-momentum, in any inertial frame, equals the rest mass <math>m_0</math> of the particle (in units where <math>c=1</math>).

== Paradoxes ==

The predictions of the theory of relativity throw up a number of apparent paradoxes and anomalies relating to the effects of time dilatation and length contraction. Whilst these paradoxes are consistent with the theory, they are contrary to everyday human experience and therefore can seem like impossibilities.

=== The Twin Paradox ===

The twin paradox is usually stated as a thought experiment involving two twins, one of whom is sent on a long journey in a spacecraft travelling at close to the speed of light, whilst the other remains on Earth. Time dilatation means that the travelling twin, on his return to Earth, is younger that the twin who has remained at home. However because neither twin is in a special position - each being in an inertial frame of reference - the reverse must also be true, and so the twin remaining on Earth must be younger. Hence each twin is younger than the other - a paradox.

The problem can be resolved in two ways. One is to examine the effects of General Relativity: to come back to Earth, the travelling twin must undergo acceleration in order to reverse his course, causing temporal effects which make him permanently the younger. Alternatively, it can be explained entirely using Special Relativity and noting that the twins are not in symmetrical situations: the one on earth has remained in a single inertial frame of reference, whilst the travelling twin has travelled in two<ref>http://mentock.home.mindspring.com/twins.htm</ref>.

=== The Ehrenfest Paradox ===

The Ehrenfest Paradox considers a rigid wheel or disc rotating a bout its axis at high speed (somewhat like a bicycle wheel spinning freely on its axle). The rim of the wheel travels at close to the speed of light and therefore undergoes length contraction, whereas the radius (the spokes, for the bicycle wheel) does not. Hence the circumference is no longer equal to 2<big><math>\pi</math></big>r, which is paradoxical.

The apparent paradox was finally resolved in 1975 by the Norwegian scientist [[Øyvind Grøn]]<ref>http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=224955</ref>.

== Variable Speed of Light ==

The Theory of Relativity implies that physical constants like c, the speed of light in a vacuum, have remained constant. But at least one study suggests that physical constants, and possibly even the speed of light, have changed as the universe has aged.<ref>James Glanz and Dennis Overbye, "Cosmic Laws Like Speed of Light Might Be Changing, a Study Finds," August 15, 2001.[http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/15/science/15PHYS.html?ex=1185076800&en=d6467b6e3e346796&ei=5070]</ref>

"For the first time, scientists have experimentally demonstrated that sound pulses can travel at velocities faster than the speed of light, c. William Robertson's team from Middle Tennessee State University also showed that the group velocity of sound waves can become infinite, and even negative. ... Although such results may at first appear to violate special relativity (Einstein's law that no material object can exceed the speed of light), the actual significance of these experiments is a little different. These types of superluminal phenomena, Robertson et al. explain, violate neither causality nor special relativity, nor do they enable information to travel faster than c. In fact, theoretical work had predicted that the superluminal speed of the group velocity of sound waves should exist. 'The key to understanding this seeming paradox is that no wave energy exceeded the speed of light,' said Robertson."<ref>http://www.physorg.com/news88249076.html</ref>

"A team of researchers from the Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne (EPFL) has successfully demonstrated, for the first time, that it is possible to control the speed of light – both slowing it down and speeding it up – in an optical fiber, using off-the-shelf instrumentation in normal environmental conditions. Their results, to be published in the August 22 issue of Applied Physics Letters, could have implications that range from optical [[computing]] to the fiber-optic telecommunications industry."<ref>http://www.scienceblog.com/light.html</ref> Both slowing down and speeding up of light within a substance other than a vacuum is made possible, because the light travels through the material, and that material affects the speed of light, i.e. a photon hits an electron, which then exits and emits a slightly lower energy photon out in the direction that the original photon was traveling, thus maintaining conservation of momentum. No matter how transparent an object may appear, it radically impacts the speed of the light traveling through it, as demonstrated by the refractive production of a rainbow by a crystal, which Newton himself discovered.

This apparent change in speed can be explained, however, by noting that the constant c refers to the speed of light in a vacuum, ie, when it is unimpeded. The speed of light when traveling through physical media is, in fact, variable.

"A pair of German physicists claim to have broken the speed of light - an achievement that would undermine our entire understanding of space and time. ... Dr Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: 'For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of.'"<ref>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/08/16/scispeed116.xml</ref>

==Pending research==

Today some physicists are working on hypothesizing how general relativity might have related to the other three forces of nature during the first fraction of a second of the [[Big Bang]]. Two of the more commonly studied attempts are [[string theory]] and [[loop quantum gravity]], but they have failed to produce any evidence that science mandates a science must have, and both typically take large amounts of work to even conform to what scientists believe. Critics increasingly point out that string theory and loop quantum gravity are largely untestable and unfalsifiable, and thus potentially unscientific under the principles of science advanced by [[Karl Popper]].<ref>See, for example, ''Not Even Wrong'', by Peter Woit</ref>

Relativity continues to be tested and some physics professors remain skeptical of the theory, such as University of Maryland physics professor Carroll Alley, who served as the principle physicist on the Apollo lunar project.<ref>http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/21jul_llr.htm</ref>

== Political aspects of relativity ==

Some [[liberal]] politicians have extrapolated the theory of relativity to metaphorically justify their own political agendas. For example, [[Democratic]] [[President of the United States of America|President]] [[Barack Obama]] helped publish an article by liberal law professor [[Laurence Tribe]] to apply the relativistic concept of "curvature of space" to promote a broad legal right to [[abortion]].<ref>Tribe, acknowledging help by Obama, argued that the [[Constitution]] should be interpreted to establish a right to federally funded [[abortion]] and that, more generally, ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' does not go far enough. They insisted that a relativistic "curvature of space" could achieve this result by expanding application of the [[Constitution]] based on its impact on personal choice. "The ''[[Roe v. Wade]]'' opinion ignored the way in which laws regulating pregnant women may shape the entire pattern of relationships among men, women, and children. It conceptualized abortion not in terms of the intensely public question of the subordination of women to men through the exploitation of pregnancy, but in terms of the purportedly private question of how women might make intimately personal decisions about their bodies and their lives. That vision described a part of the truth, but only what might be called the Newtonian part. ... [A] change in the surrounding legal setting can constitute state action that most threatens the sphere of personal choice. And it is a 'curved space' perspective on how law operates that leads one to focus less on the visible lines of legal force and more on how those lines are bent and directed by the law's geometry." Laurence H. Tribe, The Curvature of Constitutional Space: What Lawyers Can Learn from Modern Physics, 103 Harv. L. Rev. 1, 16-17 (1989).</ref> As of June 2008, over 170 law review articles have cited this [[liberal]] application of the theory of relativity to legal arguments.<ref>Search conducted by [[User:Aschlafly]] in the LEXIS database "US Law Reviews and Journals, Combined," conducted June 1, 2008.</ref> Applications of the theory of relativity to change morality have also been common.<ref>"Mistakenly, in the minds of many, the theory of relativity became relativism."[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38081]</ref> Moreover, there is an unmistakable effort to censor or ostracize criticism of relativity.<ref>Although the [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia|liberally biased Wikipedia]] contains lengthy criticisms of the subjects of many entries, and even though publications like ''The Economist'' recognize the lack of scientific satisfaction in the theory (see, e.g., "Weighing the Universe," The Economist (Jan. 25, 2007)), Wikipedia's entry on [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_Relativity Theory of Relativity] omits one word of criticism.</ref>

Physicist [[Robert Dicke]] of Princeton University was a prominent critic<ref>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,943324,00.html</ref> of general relativity, and Dicke's alternative "has enjoyed a renaissance in connection with theories of higher dimensional space-time."<ref>"Initially a popular alternative to General Relativity, the Brans-Dicke theory lost favor as it became clear that omega must be very large-an artificial requirement in some views. Nevertheless, the theory has remained a paradigm for the introduction of scalar fields into gravitational theory, and as such has enjoyed a renaissance in connection with theories of higher dimensional space-time."[http://nedwww.ipac.caltech.edu/level5/Glossary/Essay_bekenstein.html] </ref> Despite being one of the most accomplished physicists in the 20th century, Dicke was repeatedly passed over for a [[Nobel Prize]], and in at least one case Dicke was insulted by the award being granted to others for contributions more properly credited to Dicke.

There has been little recognition by the Nobel Prize committee of either theory of relativity, and particularly scant recognition of the Theory of General Relativity. A dubious 1993 Nobel prize in physics was awarded Hulse and Taylor for supposedly finding the first evidence of gravitational waves in the orbital decay of the binary pulsar PSR1913+16 <ref>Weisberg, Joel M.; Taylor, Joseph H. (2003), "The Relativistic Binary Pulsar B1913+16"", in Bailes, M.; Nice, D. J.; Thorsett, S. E., Proceedings of "Radio Pulsars," Chania, Crete, August, 2002, ASP Conference Series</ref>. A close reading of the paper reveals that that is based heavily on assumptions in trying to retrofit the data to the theory.

===Government Support for Relativistic research===
The Theory of Relativity enjoys a disproportionate share of [[federal funding]] of physics research today.<ref>The Democratic Congress insisted on the $250 million LIGO project despite substantial criticism by scientists that it was wasting scarce research dollars. John Travis, "LIGO: a $ 250 million gamble; Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory; includes related article," ''Science'' p. 612 (Apr. 30, 1993). "Adding to the acrimony is LIGO's $ 250 million price tag, which some hold responsible for NSF's recent funding woes." ''Id.''</ref> In at least one case that research has been unsuccessful. The $365 million dollar [[LIGO]] project has failed to detect the gravity waves predicted by relativity.<ref>http://www.npr.org/programs/atc/features/2002/sept/gravitywaves/index.html</ref>

{{Relativity}}

== References ==
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==External Links ==
*[http://ia331314.us.archive.org/2/items/theeinsteintheor11335gut/11335-h/11335-h.htm The Einstein Theory of Relativity, by H.A. Lorentz.]
*[http://www.relativitycalculator.com Relativity Calculator - Learn Special Relativity Mathematics ] The mathematics of special relativity presented in as simple and comprehensive manner possible within philosophical and historical contexts.

Taylor Swift

2013-01-24T22:32:24Z

DouglasA: rmv inconsequential trivia

[[Image:TaylorSwift.jpg|thumb|right|300px|Taylor Swift at a live performance]]
'''Taylor Alison Swift''' (born December 13, 1989) is a popular [[Grammy]]-nominated [[American]] [[country music]] singer-songwriter and [[Christian]]. She was named Billboard Magazine Artist of the Year for 2009 and received the title Artist of the Year at the Country Music Awards. She has been praised by many [[Conservative]] parent advocacy groups for being a positive role model for young people.

Swift was born in the town of Wyomissing, Pennsylvania. Her father is Scott Swift, a stock broker, and her mother is Andrea, a homemaker. She was raised in a Christian home and went to a Christian high school.

== Albums ==

She released her first album, ''Taylor Swift'' in late 2006 which became #1 on the Billboard Top Country Albums and #5 on the Billboard Hot 200. She released her second album, [[Fearless]] in 2008 which debuted at #1 on the Billboard Hot 200. She was the first artist in history to have two different albums in the Top 10 on the year end album chart. It also was the first album by a female artist in country music history to log eight weeks at #1 on The Billboard 200.

== Awards and Accomplishments ==

Swift is the youngest artist in history to win Album of the Year award. Swift was also awarded the Country Music Academy's Crystal Milestone Award, given for Outstanding Achievement in Country Music. The Academy praised her for career achievements including selling more albums in 2008 than any other artist in any genre of music, the first time a country artist had done that, the breakthrough success of her debut album (which spawned five Top 10 hits, more than any in history for a female artist's debut CD), and the worldwide crossover success of her #1 single "Love Story". The Academy also cited Swift's contribution to helping country music attract a younger audience and her family-friendly lyrics and performances.

== Philanthropy and Charity ==

In 2009 Taylor Swift became the female artist with the most top-40 songs of the decade with her song ''Fifteen'', surpassing Beyonce Knowles. ''Fifteen'' is a song promoting abstinence and used in [[Best Buy]]'s campaign for @15, a charity which helps teenagers get involved in their communities. Taylor Swift has donated over $750,000 to the [[Red Cross]] and $250,000 to various schools around the country, some of which were Christian-based education schools. She has also donated $10,000 to St Jude's Children's Research Hospital

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E=mc²

2013-01-24T22:29:50Z

DouglasA: personal essay shouldn't be linked from encyc. article

'''E=mc²''' is [[Einstein]]'s famous formula which asserts that the energy ('''E''') which makes up the [[matter]] in any body is equal to the square of the [[speed of light]] ('''c²''') times the [[mass]] ('''m''') of that body.<ref>"... Einstein proves that energy and matter are linked in the most famous relationship in physics: E = mc². (The energy content of a body is equal to the mass of the body times the speed of light squared.)" [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/einstein-genius-among-geniuses.html Einstein: Genius Among Geniuses] - PBS's NOVA</ref> It is a statement that purports to relate all [[matter]] to [[energy]]. In fact, no [[theory]] has successfully unified the [[law]]s governing [[mass]] (''i.e.'', [[gravity]]) with the laws governing light (''i.e.'', [[electromagnetism]]), and numerous attempts to derive '''E=mc²''' in general from first principles have failed. [[Politics|Political]] pressure,<ref>For example, [[Robert Dicke]], perhaps the greatest physicist of the 20th century, was denied a [[Nobel Prize]] because he doubted the [[Theory of Relativity]].</ref> however, has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in [[science]] to even question the validity of this nonsensical [[equation]]. Simply put, '''E=mc²''' is [[liberal claptrap]].

[[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge]] predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the [[Book of Genesis]].

[[Mass]] is a measure of an object's inertia, in other words its resistance to acceleration. In contrast, the intrinsic [[energy]] of an object (such as an [[atom]]) is a function of electrostatic charge and other non-inertial forces, having nothing to do with gravity. Declaring the object's energy to be a function of inertia rather than electrostatics is an absurd and impossible attempt to unify the forces of nature, contrary to the accepted view (as predicted by [[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge]]) that the forces of nature have not been unified.

Critics argue that for more than a century, the claim that '''E=mc²''' has never yielded anything of value and that it often is used as a redefinition of "[[energy]]" for pseudo-scientific purposes by non-scientific journals. On the other hand, the equation is applied in already understood processes involved in [[nuclear power]] generation and [[nuclear weapon]]s ([[nuclear fusion]] and [[nuclear fission]]), and in the speculation about [[antimatter]].<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/legacy-of-e-equals-mc2.html Peter Tyson ''The Legacy of E=mc²''] October 11, 2005. PBS ''NOVA''. </ref>

The [[Theory of Relativity]] has never been able to mathematically derive '''E=mc²''' from first principles, and a physicist observed in a peer-reviewed paper published in 2011 that "a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory."<ref>[http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011AmJPh..79..591H Eugene Hecht: ''How Einstein confirmed E0=mc²'', American Journal of Physics, Volume 79, Issue 6, pp. 591-600 (2011)]</ref>

It has been known for a long time that radiation has a mass equivalence, which was correctly derived by [[Henri Poincare]] in 1904,<ref>[http://www.opticsinfobase.org/josa/abstract.cfm?uri=josa-42-8-540 Herbert E. Ives ''Derivation of the Mass-Energy Relation'', JOSA, Vol. 42, Issue 8, pp. 540-543 (1952)]</ref> but the equation '''E=mc²''' makes a claim far beyond that limited circumstance:

{{cquote|The equality of the mass equivalent of radiation to the mass lost by a radiating body is derivable from Poincaré’s momentum of radiation (1900) and his principle of relativity (1904).|||[[Herbert Ives]], 1952}}

== Description for the layman ==
Ten top physicists were asked to describe in laymen's terms '''E=mc²''':<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/experts.html Lexi Krock, David Levin (editors) ''E=mc² explained'', June, 2005. PBS ''NOVA'']</ref>{{cquote|''Things that seem incredibly different can really be manifestations of the same underlying phenomena.''|||Nima Arkani-Hamed, Theoretical Physicist, Harvard University}}{{cquote|''You can get access to parts of nature you have never been able to get access to before.''|||Lene Hau, Experimental Physicist, Harvard University}}{{
cquote|''It certainly is not an equation that reveals all its subtlety in the few symbols that it takes to write down.''|||Brian Greene Theoretical Physicist Columbia University}}

== History of '''E=mc²''' ==

The [[Public Broadcasting Service]] explained the history of '''E=mc²''' for its NOVA series as follows:<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/ancestors-einstein.html David Bodanis ''Ancestors of E=mc²''], Nov 10, 2005, NOVA</ref>

{{cquote|Over time, [[physicist]]s became used to multiplying an object's mass by the square of its [[velocity]] (mv²) to come up with a useful indicator of its energy. If the velocity of a ball or rock was 100 mph, then they knew that the energy it carried would be proportional to its mass times 100 squared. If the velocity is raised as high as it could go, to 670 million mph, it's almost as if the ultimate energy an object will contain should be revealed when you look at its mass times c squared, or its mc².}}

==Experimental verification==
The first experimental verification for the equation was performed 1932 by a team of an English and an Irish physicist, John Cockcroft and Ernest Walton, as a byproduct of ''"their pioneer work on the transmutation of atomic nuclei by artificially accelerated atomic particles"''<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/# Nobel Prize Organization]</ref> for which they were honored with the [[Nobel Prize]] in physics in 1951. The idea of the mass defect - and its calculation using ''E=mc²'' can be found on page 169-170 of his Nobel lecture.<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-lecture.pdf John D. Cockroft ''Experiments on the interaction of high-speed nucleons with atomic nuclei''], Nobel Lecture, Dec 11, 1951</ref>

They bombarded [[Lithium]] atoms with [[protons]] having a [[kinetic energy]] less than 1 [[Electron-Volts|MeV]]. The result were two (slightly less heavy) [[α-particle]]s, for which the [[kinetic energy]] was measured as 17.3 MeV

:::::<math>{}_3^7\mathrm{Li}\, +\, {}_1^1\mathrm{H}\,\rightarrow\,2\, {}_2^4\mathrm{He}</math>

The mass of the particles on the left hand side is 8.0263 [[atomic mass units|amu]]s, the mass on the right hand side ''only'' 8.0077 amu.<ref>Gerard Piel ''The age of science: what scientists learned in the 20th century'', Basic Books, 2001, p. 144-145</ref> The difference between this masses is .00186 amu, which results in the following back-of-an-envelope calculation:

::::<math>0.00186\,\mathrm{amu} \cdot c^2 = 0.0186 \cdot 1.66 \cdot 10^{-27}\,\mathrm{kg}\cdot\left(3\cdot10^8\,\mathrm{\frac{m}{s}}\right)^2</math>
::::<math>\approx\,2.79\cdot 10^{-12} \,\mathrm{kg}\mathrm{\frac{m^2}{s^2}}</math>
::::<math>\approx \,17.3\,\mathrm{MeV}</math>

Accurate measurements and detailed calculations allowed for verifying the theoretical values with an accuracy of ±0.5%. This was the first time a nucleus was artificially split, and thereby the first transmutation of elements using accelerated particles:

Some claim that the best empirical verification of '''E=mc2''' was done in 2005 by Simon Rainville et al., as published in ''[[Nature (journal)|Nature]]'' (which is not a leading physics journal).<ref>[http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7071/full/4381096a.html Nature 438, 1096-1097 (22 December 2005)] doi:10.1038/4381096a; Published online 21 December 2005</ref> The authors state in their article in ''Nature'' magazine that "Einstein's relationship is separately confirmed in two tests, which yield a combined result of 1−Δmc²/E=(−1.4±4.4)×10−7, indicating that it holds to a level of at least 0.00004%. To our knowledge, this is the most precise direct test of the famous equation yet described."

==A Famous Example -- Nuclear Fission of Uranium==

For most types of physical interactions, the masses of the initial reactants and of the final products match so closely that it is essentially impossible to measure any difference. But for nuclear reactions, the difference is measurable. That difference is related to the energy absorbed or released, described by the equation E=mc². (The equation applies to '''all''' interactions; the fact that nuclear interactions are the only ones for which the mass difference is measurable has led people to believe, wrongly, that E=mc² applies only to nuclear interactions.)

The [[Theory of Relativity]] played no role in this work, but proponents later tried to retrofit the theory to the data in order to explain the explain the observed mass changes. Here is the most famous example of the mass change.

Nuclear fission, which is the basis for nuclear energy, was discovered in experiments by [[Otto Hahn]] and [[Fritz Strassman]], and analyzed by [[Lise Meitner]], in 1938.

The decay path of [[Uranium]] that figured in the ''Hahn-Strassmann experiment'' may have been this:

:235U → 140Xe + 91Sr + 4n

(The [[Xenon]] decayed within about a minute to 140Ba. There are a large number of fission paths and fission products, but they were searching for the chemical signature of [[Barium]].)

The masses of the particles are:

{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"
! Substance
! 235U
! 140Xe
! 91Sr
! 4 neutrons
|-
| Number of protons
| 92
| 54
| 38
| 0
|-
| Number of neutrons
| 235
| 140
| 91
| 4
|-
| Number of electrons
| 92
| 54
| 38
| 0
|-
| Mass
| 235.04393
| 139.92164
| 90.910203
| 4.03466
|}

The mass of the Uranium atom is 235.04393, and the sum of the masses of the products is 234.866503. The difference is .177427 amu, or, using the E=mc² equation, 165 million electron volts. (The generally accepted value for the total energy released by Uranium fission, including secondary decays, is about 200 million electron volts.)

The insight that the conversion from Uranium to Barium was caused by complete fission of the atom was made by Lise Meitner in December, 1938. She had the approximate "mass defect" quantities memorized, and so she worked out in her head, using the E=mc² equation, that there would be this enormous release of energy. This release was observed shortly thereafter, and the result is nuclear power and nuclear weapons.

==A Topical Example: Speed of Extremely Energetic Neutrinos==
Here is another example of the use of this formula in physics calculations. Recently there has been quite a controversy over whether neutrinos were observed traveling at a speed faster than light. Relativity doesn't allow that, and, since neutrinos have nonzero (but incredibly tiny) mass, they aren't even supposed to travel ''at'' the speed of light. This very issue came up on the [[Talk:Main_Page#Neutrinos]]. The speeds under discussion were calculated by the use of E=mc2.

The mass of a neutrino is about 0.44x10-36kilograms. (Normally all of these things are measured in more convenient units such as Giga-electron-Volts, but that makes implicit use of E=mc2. If we don't accept that, we have to do the calculations under classical physics, using SI (meter/kilogram/second) units.) The neutrinos were accelerated to an energy of about 17GeV, or .27x10-8Joules. Using the classical formula <math>\mathrm{E} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2</math>, we get v=110x1012meters per second. This is about 370,000 times the speed of light.
However, the classical formula breaks down at speeds close to <math>c</math>, and indeed, as the speed of a massive object approaches <math>c</math>, the object's kinetic energy approaches <math>+\infty</math>.

Several scientists have gone on record stating that the neutrinos, which have mass, travel at precisely the speed of light. If true, this disproves the [[Theory of Relativity]] and the claim that '''E=mc2'''. However, it is more likely that those scientists are using language inaccurately. It is impossible to measure the speed of neutrinos precisely. What is meant is the difference between the speed of light and the speed of the neutrinos is too small to measure.

==Deducing the Equation From Empirical Observation==

While the equation was historically developed on theoretical grounds as an inevitable consequence of special relativity, it is possible to deduce it purely from empirical observation.

So, for the purposes of this section, imagine that one is in the era of "classical physics"; prior to 1900 or so. Relativity has not been invented, but, inexplicably, nuclear physics has. Imagine that the phenomena of radioactivity and nuclear fission have been observed, without any knowledge of relativity.

A well-accepted physical law of classical physics was the law of conservation of mass. This was not easy to deduce. It required careful analysis of such phenomena as combustion, in the 1700's, to eliminate the various confounding sub-phenomena that made the law difficult to see. But, by 1900, the law was well established:

:::*'''In all interactions, mass is precisely conserved.'''

For example, the mass of a TNT molecule is 227.1311 Daltons, or 227.1311 g/mol, which is, for all practical purposes, the same as the mass of its constituent Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, and Oxygen atoms. It is essentially impossible to measure the difference. The principle of conservation of mass is upheld.

But when nuclear phenomena are discovered, we notice something different. The masses of the result particles after an event (e.g. alpha decay, nuclear fission, or artificial transmutation) is measurably less than the masses of the original particle(s). With the invention of the mass spectrometer around 1920, it became possible to measure atomic weights of various isotopes with great precision.

Radium-226 decays into Radon-222 by emission of an alpha particle with an energy of 4.78 MeV.

1 kg of Radium-226 = <math>\frac{6.022 \times 10^{23}}{226.0254}</math> atoms. (The numerator is [[Avogadro's number]], and the denominator is the atomic weight of Radium-226.) This is 2.6643647 * 1024 atoms.

That number of Radon-222 atoms has mass .98226836 kg. That number of alpha particles has mass .01770863 kg.
The mass lost is .00002301 kg.

Each emitted alpha particle has energy of 4.78 MeV, or 4.78 * .1602 * 10-18 Joules. The total alpha energy from the decay of 1 kg of radium is 2.04 * 1012 Joules.

Also, Radon-222 decays into Polonium-218 by emission of an alpha particle with an energy of 5.49 MeV.

1 kg of Radon-222 = <math>\frac{6.022 \times 10^{23}}{222.0176}</math> atoms. This is 2.7124611 * 1024 atoms.

That number of Polonium-218 atoms has mass .98194467 kg. That number of alpha particles has mass .01802830 kg.

The mass lost is .00002703 kg.

Each emitted alpha particle has energy of 5.49 MeV. The total alpha energy from the decay of 1 kg of polonium is 2.39 * 1012 Joules.

It looks as thought we have to rewrite the law of conservation of mass:

:::*'''In all "ordinary" interactions, mass is precisely conserved.'''
:::*'''In nuclear interactions, there is a small but measurable loss of mass.'''

:By the way, we can clearly see that atomic weights of pure isotopes are not integers, and that it has something to do with the energy released by nuclear disintegration. In retrospect, the formula E=mc² explains the non-integer character of atomic weights.

Making special cases like this is unsatisfactory, of course.

We do this for a few other interactions, including the explosion of TNT. This would include the Lithium-plus-Hydrogen and Uranium fission phenomena described above. We won't bother with the details. As observational scientists, we look for patterns in the behavior of nature. We make a table:

{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"
! interaction
! energy released per kg, Joules
! mass lost per kg of original substance, kg
|-
| explosion of TNT
| 4.184 * 106
| seems to be zero
|-
| alpha decay of Ra-226
| 2.04 * 1012
| .00002301 kg
|-
| alpha decay of Rn-222
| 2.39 * 1012
| .00002703 kg
|}

We plot these, and a few others, not shown, on graph paper, and find to our amazement that the relationship is linear.

For Ra, m/E = .112794118 E-16
For Po, m/E = .113096234 E-16

If this is linear, the mass defect for TNT would have been .47 * 10-10. We couldn't possibly have measured this.

So we can rewrite the rule for conservation of mass in a more satisfactory way:

:::*'''In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to about .113 * 10-16 kg per Joule of energy released.'''

What we thought was exact conservation is just very nearly exact, and we hadn't been able to measure it before.

But maybe there's more. This constant has dimensions of kilograms per Joule. From high-school physics, we know that that is seconds squared divided by meters squared. That is, it is the reciprocal of the square of a velocity. We calculate that velocity. It is about 2.97 * 108 meters per second. Very close to the speed of light! Very interesting! (The calculations above were not extremely precise. The formula has been verified with great precision, but not here.)

We don't understand why (that will have to wait for the invention of relativity), but we can formulate a hypothesis:

:::*'''In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to <math>\frac{1}{c^2}</math> times the amount of energy released.'''

We don't have to give the units any more, since everything is now dimensionally correct.

::There is a very interesting analogy with the discovery of [[Maxwell's Equations]]. Maxwell found an interesting relationship involving the fundamental constants <math>\epsilon\,</math> and <math>\mu\,</math> appearing in his equations. Specifically, <math>\epsilon\mu\,</math> has the dimensions of seconds squared divided by meters squared, and that:

:::::<math>\frac{1}{\epsilon\mu} = c^2</math>

::where "c" was the known velocity of light. He also showed that his equations predict electromagnetic waves, propagating at that speed.

==See also==
*[[Counterexamples to Relativity]]

== References ==
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E=mc²

2013-01-24T22:28:35Z

DouglasA: fix grammar

'''E=mc²''' is [[Einstein]]'s famous formula which asserts that the energy ('''E''') which makes up the [[matter]] in any body is equal to the square of the [[speed of light]] ('''c²''') times the [[mass]] ('''m''') of that body.<ref>"... Einstein proves that energy and matter are linked in the most famous relationship in physics: E = mc². (The energy content of a body is equal to the mass of the body times the speed of light squared.)" [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/einstein-genius-among-geniuses.html Einstein: Genius Among Geniuses] - PBS's NOVA</ref> It is a statement that purports to relate all [[matter]] to [[energy]]. In fact, no [[theory]] has successfully unified the [[law]]s governing [[mass]] (''i.e.'', [[gravity]]) with the laws governing light (''i.e.'', [[electromagnetism]]), and numerous attempts to derive '''E=mc²''' in general from first principles have failed. [[Politics|Political]] pressure,<ref>For example, [[Robert Dicke]], perhaps the greatest physicist of the 20th century, was denied a [[Nobel Prize]] because he doubted the [[Theory of Relativity]].</ref> however, has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in [[science]] to even question the validity of this nonsensical [[equation]]. Simply put, '''E=mc²''' is [[liberal claptrap]].

[[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge]] predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the [[Book of Genesis]].

[[Mass]] is a measure of an object's inertia, in other words its resistance to acceleration. In contrast, the intrinsic [[energy]] of an object (such as an [[atom]]) is a function of electrostatic charge and other non-inertial forces, having nothing to do with gravity. Declaring the object's energy to be a function of inertia rather than electrostatics is an absurd and impossible attempt to unify the forces of nature, contrary to the accepted view (as predicted by [[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge]]) that the forces of nature have not been unified.

Critics argue that for more than a century, the claim that '''E=mc²''' has never yielded anything of value and that it often is used as a redefinition of "[[energy]]" for pseudo-scientific purposes by non-scientific journals. On the other hand, the equation is applied in already understood processes involved in [[nuclear power]] generation and [[nuclear weapon]]s ([[nuclear fusion]] and [[nuclear fission]]), and in the speculation about [[antimatter]].<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/legacy-of-e-equals-mc2.html Peter Tyson ''The Legacy of E=mc²''] October 11, 2005. PBS ''NOVA''. </ref>

The [[Theory of Relativity]] has never been able to mathematically derive '''E=mc²''' from first principles, and a physicist observed in a peer-reviewed paper published in 2011 that "a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory."<ref>[http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011AmJPh..79..591H Eugene Hecht: ''How Einstein confirmed E0=mc²'', American Journal of Physics, Volume 79, Issue 6, pp. 591-600 (2011)]</ref>

It has been known for a long time that radiation has a mass equivalence, which was correctly derived by [[Henri Poincare]] in 1904,<ref>[http://www.opticsinfobase.org/josa/abstract.cfm?uri=josa-42-8-540 Herbert E. Ives ''Derivation of the Mass-Energy Relation'', JOSA, Vol. 42, Issue 8, pp. 540-543 (1952)]</ref> but the equation '''E=mc²''' makes a claim far beyond that limited circumstance:

{{cquote|The equality of the mass equivalent of radiation to the mass lost by a radiating body is derivable from Poincaré’s momentum of radiation (1900) and his principle of relativity (1904).|||[[Herbert Ives]], 1952}}

== Description for the layman ==
Ten top physicists were asked to describe in laymen's terms '''E=mc²''':<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/experts.html Lexi Krock, David Levin (editors) ''E=mc² explained'', June, 2005. PBS ''NOVA'']</ref>{{cquote|''Things that seem incredibly different can really be manifestations of the same underlying phenomena.''|||Nima Arkani-Hamed, Theoretical Physicist, Harvard University}}{{cquote|''You can get access to parts of nature you have never been able to get access to before.''|||Lene Hau, Experimental Physicist, Harvard University}}{{
cquote|''It certainly is not an equation that reveals all its subtlety in the few symbols that it takes to write down.''|||Brian Greene Theoretical Physicist Columbia University}}

== History of '''E=mc²''' ==

The [[Public Broadcasting Service]] explained the history of '''E=mc²''' for its NOVA series as follows:<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/ancestors-einstein.html David Bodanis ''Ancestors of E=mc²''], Nov 10, 2005, NOVA</ref>

{{cquote|Over time, [[physicist]]s became used to multiplying an object's mass by the square of its [[velocity]] (mv²) to come up with a useful indicator of its energy. If the velocity of a ball or rock was 100 mph, then they knew that the energy it carried would be proportional to its mass times 100 squared. If the velocity is raised as high as it could go, to 670 million mph, it's almost as if the ultimate energy an object will contain should be revealed when you look at its mass times c squared, or its mc².}}

==Experimental verification==
The first experimental verification for the equation was performed 1932 by a team of an English and an Irish physicist, John Cockcroft and Ernest Walton, as a byproduct of ''"their pioneer work on the transmutation of atomic nuclei by artificially accelerated atomic particles"''<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/# Nobel Prize Organization]</ref> for which they were honored with the [[Nobel Prize]] in physics in 1951. The idea of the mass defect - and its calculation using ''E=mc²'' can be found on page 169-170 of his Nobel lecture.<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-lecture.pdf John D. Cockroft ''Experiments on the interaction of high-speed nucleons with atomic nuclei''], Nobel Lecture, Dec 11, 1951</ref>

They bombarded [[Lithium]] atoms with [[protons]] having a [[kinetic energy]] less than 1 [[Electron-Volts|MeV]]. The result were two (slightly less heavy) [[α-particle]]s, for which the [[kinetic energy]] was measured as 17.3 MeV

:::::<math>{}_3^7\mathrm{Li}\, +\, {}_1^1\mathrm{H}\,\rightarrow\,2\, {}_2^4\mathrm{He}</math>

The mass of the particles on the left hand side is 8.0263 [[atomic mass units|amu]]s, the mass on the right hand side ''only'' 8.0077 amu.<ref>Gerard Piel ''The age of science: what scientists learned in the 20th century'', Basic Books, 2001, p. 144-145</ref> The difference between this masses is .00186 amu, which results in the following back-of-an-envelope calculation:

::::<math>0.00186\,\mathrm{amu} \cdot c^2 = 0.0186 \cdot 1.66 \cdot 10^{-27}\,\mathrm{kg}\cdot\left(3\cdot10^8\,\mathrm{\frac{m}{s}}\right)^2</math>
::::<math>\approx\,2.79\cdot 10^{-12} \,\mathrm{kg}\mathrm{\frac{m^2}{s^2}}</math>
::::<math>\approx \,17.3\,\mathrm{MeV}</math>

Accurate measurements and detailed calculations allowed for verifying the theoretical values with an accuracy of ±0.5%. This was the first time a nucleus was artificially split, and thereby the first transmutation of elements using accelerated particles:

Some claim that the best empirical verification of '''E=mc2''' was done in 2005 by Simon Rainville et al., as published in ''[[Nature (journal)|Nature]]'' (which is not a leading physics journal).<ref>[http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7071/full/4381096a.html Nature 438, 1096-1097 (22 December 2005)] doi:10.1038/4381096a; Published online 21 December 2005</ref> The authors state in their article in ''Nature'' magazine that "Einstein's relationship is separately confirmed in two tests, which yield a combined result of 1−Δmc²/E=(−1.4±4.4)×10−7, indicating that it holds to a level of at least 0.00004%. To our knowledge, this is the most precise direct test of the famous equation yet described."

==A Famous Example -- Nuclear Fission of Uranium==

For most types of physical interactions, the masses of the initial reactants and of the final products match so closely that it is essentially impossible to measure any difference. But for nuclear reactions, the difference is measurable. That difference is related to the energy absorbed or released, described by the equation E=mc². (The equation applies to '''all''' interactions; the fact that nuclear interactions are the only ones for which the mass difference is measurable has led people to believe, wrongly, that E=mc² applies only to nuclear interactions.)

The [[Theory of Relativity]] played no role in this work, but proponents later tried to retrofit the theory to the data in order to explain the explain the observed mass changes. Here is the most famous example of the mass change.

Nuclear fission, which is the basis for nuclear energy, was discovered in experiments by [[Otto Hahn]] and [[Fritz Strassman]], and analyzed by [[Lise Meitner]], in 1938.

The decay path of [[Uranium]] that figured in the ''Hahn-Strassmann experiment'' may have been this:

:235U → 140Xe + 91Sr + 4n

(The [[Xenon]] decayed within about a minute to 140Ba. There are a large number of fission paths and fission products, but they were searching for the chemical signature of [[Barium]].)

The masses of the particles are:

{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"
! Substance
! 235U
! 140Xe
! 91Sr
! 4 neutrons
|-
| Number of protons
| 92
| 54
| 38
| 0
|-
| Number of neutrons
| 235
| 140
| 91
| 4
|-
| Number of electrons
| 92
| 54
| 38
| 0
|-
| Mass
| 235.04393
| 139.92164
| 90.910203
| 4.03466
|}

The mass of the Uranium atom is 235.04393, and the sum of the masses of the products is 234.866503. The difference is .177427 amu, or, using the E=mc² equation, 165 million electron volts. (The generally accepted value for the total energy released by Uranium fission, including secondary decays, is about 200 million electron volts.)

The insight that the conversion from Uranium to Barium was caused by complete fission of the atom was made by Lise Meitner in December, 1938. She had the approximate "mass defect" quantities memorized, and so she worked out in her head, using the E=mc² equation, that there would be this enormous release of energy. This release was observed shortly thereafter, and the result is nuclear power and nuclear weapons.

==A Topical Example: Speed of Extremely Energetic Neutrinos==
Here is another example of the use of this formula in physics calculations. Recently there has been quite a controversy over whether neutrinos were observed traveling at a speed faster than light. Relativity doesn't allow that, and, since neutrinos have nonzero (but incredibly tiny) mass, they aren't even supposed to travel ''at'' the speed of light. This very issue came up on the [[Talk:Main_Page#Neutrinos]]. The speeds under discussion were calculated by the use of E=mc2.

The mass of a neutrino is about 0.44x10-36kilograms. (Normally all of these things are measured in more convenient units such as Giga-electron-Volts, but that makes implicit use of E=mc2. If we don't accept that, we have to do the calculations under classical physics, using SI (meter/kilogram/second) units.) The neutrinos were accelerated to an energy of about 17GeV, or .27x10-8Joules. Using the classical formula <math>\mathrm{E} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2</math>, we get v=110x1012meters per second. This is about 370,000 times the speed of light.
However, the classical formula breaks down at speeds close to <math>c</math>, and indeed, as the speed of a massive object approaches <math>c</math>, the object's kinetic energy approaches <math>+\infty</math>.

Several scientists have gone on record stating that the neutrinos, which have mass, travel at precisely the speed of light. If true, this disproves the [[Theory of Relativity]] and the claim that '''E=mc2'''. However, it is more likely that those scientists are using language inaccurately. It is impossible to measure the speed of neutrinos precisely. What is meant is the difference between the speed of light and the speed of the neutrinos is too small to measure.

==Deducing the Equation From Empirical Observation==

While the equation was historically developed on theoretical grounds as an inevitable consequence of special relativity, it is possible to deduce it purely from empirical observation.

So, for the purposes of this section, imagine that one is in the era of "classical physics"; prior to 1900 or so. Relativity has not been invented, but, inexplicably, nuclear physics has. Imagine that the phenomena of radioactivity and nuclear fission have been observed, without any knowledge of relativity.

A well-accepted physical law of classical physics was the law of conservation of mass. This was not easy to deduce. It required careful analysis of such phenomena as combustion, in the 1700's, to eliminate the various confounding sub-phenomena that made the law difficult to see. But, by 1900, the law was well established:

:::*'''In all interactions, mass is precisely conserved.'''

For example, the mass of a TNT molecule is 227.1311 Daltons, or 227.1311 g/mol, which is, for all practical purposes, the same as the mass of its constituent Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, and Oxygen atoms. It is essentially impossible to measure the difference. The principle of conservation of mass is upheld.

But when nuclear phenomena are discovered, we notice something different. The masses of the result particles after an event (e.g. alpha decay, nuclear fission, or artificial transmutation) is measurably less than the masses of the original particle(s). With the invention of the mass spectrometer around 1920, it became possible to measure atomic weights of various isotopes with great precision.

Radium-226 decays into Radon-222 by emission of an alpha particle with an energy of 4.78 MeV.

1 kg of Radium-226 = <math>\frac{6.022 \times 10^{23}}{226.0254}</math> atoms. (The numerator is [[Avogadro's number]], and the denominator is the atomic weight of Radium-226.) This is 2.6643647 * 1024 atoms.

That number of Radon-222 atoms has mass .98226836 kg. That number of alpha particles has mass .01770863 kg.
The mass lost is .00002301 kg.

Each emitted alpha particle has energy of 4.78 MeV, or 4.78 * .1602 * 10-18 Joules. The total alpha energy from the decay of 1 kg of radium is 2.04 * 1012 Joules.

Also, Radon-222 decays into Polonium-218 by emission of an alpha particle with an energy of 5.49 MeV.

1 kg of Radon-222 = <math>\frac{6.022 \times 10^{23}}{222.0176}</math> atoms. This is 2.7124611 * 1024 atoms.

That number of Polonium-218 atoms has mass .98194467 kg. That number of alpha particles has mass .01802830 kg.

The mass lost is .00002703 kg.

Each emitted alpha particle has energy of 5.49 MeV. The total alpha energy from the decay of 1 kg of polonium is 2.39 * 1012 Joules.

It looks as thought we have to rewrite the law of conservation of mass:

:::*'''In all "ordinary" interactions, mass is precisely conserved.'''
:::*'''In nuclear interactions, there is a small but measurable loss of mass.'''

:By the way, we can clearly see that atomic weights of pure isotopes are not integers, and that it has something to do with the energy released by nuclear disintegration. In retrospect, the formula E=mc² explains the non-integer character of atomic weights.

Making special cases like this is unsatisfactory, of course.

We do this for a few other interactions, including the explosion of TNT. This would include the Lithium-plus-Hydrogen and Uranium fission phenomena described above. We won't bother with the details. As observational scientists, we look for patterns in the behavior of nature. We make a table:

{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"
! interaction
! energy released per kg, Joules
! mass lost per kg of original substance, kg
|-
| explosion of TNT
| 4.184 * 106
| seems to be zero
|-
| alpha decay of Ra-226
| 2.04 * 1012
| .00002301 kg
|-
| alpha decay of Rn-222
| 2.39 * 1012
| .00002703 kg
|}

We plot these, and a few others, not shown, on graph paper, and find to our amazement that the relationship is linear.

For Ra, m/E = .112794118 E-16
For Po, m/E = .113096234 E-16

If this is linear, the mass defect for TNT would have been .47 * 10-10. We couldn't possibly have measured this.

So we can rewrite the rule for conservation of mass in a more satisfactory way:

:::*'''In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to about .113 * 10-16 kg per Joule of energy released.'''

What we thought was exact conservation is just very nearly exact, and we hadn't been able to measure it before.

But maybe there's more. This constant has dimensions of kilograms per Joule. From high-school physics, we know that that is seconds squared divided by meters squared. That is, it is the reciprocal of the square of a velocity. We calculate that velocity. It is about 2.97 * 108 meters per second. Very close to the speed of light! Very interesting! (The calculations above were not extremely precise. The formula has been verified with great precision, but not here.)

We don't understand why (that will have to wait for the invention of relativity), but we can formulate a hypothesis:

:::*'''In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to <math>\frac{1}{c^2}</math> times the amount of energy released.'''

We don't have to give the units any more, since everything is now dimensionally correct.

::There is a very interesting analogy with the discovery of [[Maxwell's Equations]]. Maxwell found an interesting relationship involving the fundamental constants <math>\epsilon\,</math> and <math>\mu\,</math> appearing in his equations. Specifically, <math>\epsilon\mu\,</math> has the dimensions of seconds squared divided by meters squared, and that:

:::::<math>\frac{1}{\epsilon\mu} = c^2</math>

::where "c" was the known velocity of light. He also showed that his equations predict electromagnetic waves, propagating at that speed.

==See also==
*[[Counterexamples to Relativity]]
*[[essay:Rebuttal to Counterexamples to Relativity]]

== References ==
<references />
[[Category:relativity]]
[[Category:physics]]
[[Category:science]]
[[Category:Bible]]

E=mc²

2013-01-24T22:27:42Z

DouglasA: less vague

'''E=mc²''' is [[Einstein]]'s famous formula which asserts that the energy ('''E''') which makes up the [[matter]] in any body is equal to the square of the [[speed of light]] ('''c²''') times the [[mass]] ('''m''') of that body.<ref>"... Einstein proves that energy and matter are linked in the most famous relationship in physics: E = mc². (The energy content of a body is equal to the mass of the body times the speed of light squared.)" [http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/einstein-genius-among-geniuses.html Einstein: Genius Among Geniuses] - PBS's NOVA</ref> It is a statement that purports to relate all [[matter]] to [[energy]]. In fact, no [[theory]] has successfully unified the [[law]]s governing [[mass]] (''i.e.'', [[gravity]]) with the laws governing light (''i.e.'', [[electromagnetism]]), and numerous attempts to derive '''E=mc²''' in general from first principles have failed. [[Politics|Political]] pressure,<ref>For example, [[Robert Dicke]], perhaps the greatest physicist of the 20th century, was denied a [[Nobel Prize]] because he doubted the [[Theory of Relativity]].</ref> however, has since made it impossible for anyone pursuing an academic career in [[science]] to even question the validity of this nonsensical [[equation]]. Simply put, '''E=mc²''' is [[liberal claptrap]].

[[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge]] predicts that a unified theory of all the laws of physics is impossible, because light and matter were created at different times, in different ways, as described in the [[Book of Genesis]].

[[Mass]] is a measure of an object's inertia, in other words its resistance to acceleration. In contrast, the intrinsic [[energy]] of an object (such as an [[atom]]) is a function of electrostatic charge and other non-inertial forces, having nothing to do with gravity. Declaring the object's energy to be a function of inertia rather than electrostatics is an absurd and impossible attempt to unify the forces of nature, contrary to the accepted view (as predicted by [[Biblical Scientific Foreknowledge]]) that the forces of nature have not been unified.

Critics argue that for more than a century, the claim that '''E=mc²''' has never yielded anything of value and that it often is used as a redefinition of "[[energy]]" for pseudo-scientific purposes by non-scientific journals. On the other hand, the equation is applied in already understood processes involved in [[nuclear power]] generation and [[nuclear weapon]]s ([[nuclear fusion]] and [[nuclear fission]]), and in the speculation about [[antimatter]].<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/legacy-of-e-equals-mc2.html Peter Tyson ''The Legacy of E=mc²''] October 11, 2005. PBS ''NOVA''. </ref>

The [[Theory of Relativity]] has never been able to mathematically derive '''E=mc²''' from first principles, and a physicist observed in a peer-reviewed paper published in 2011 that "a rigorous proof of the mass-energy equivalence is probably beyond the purview of the special theory."<ref>[http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2011AmJPh..79..591H Eugene Hecht: ''How Einstein confirmed E0=mc²'', American Journal of Physics, Volume 79, Issue 6, pp. 591-600 (2011)]</ref>

It has been known for a long time that radiation has a mass equivalence, which was correctly derived by [[Henri Poincare]] in 1904,<ref>[http://www.opticsinfobase.org/josa/abstract.cfm?uri=josa-42-8-540 Herbert E. Ives ''Derivation of the Mass-Energy Relation'', JOSA, Vol. 42, Issue 8, pp. 540-543 (1952)]</ref> but the equation '''E=mc²''' makes a claim far beyond that limited circumstance:

{{cquote|The equality of the mass equivalent of radiation to the mass lost by a radiating body is derivable from Poincaré’s momentum of radiation (1900) and his principle of relativity (1904).|||[[Herbert Ives]], 1952}}

== Description for the layman ==
Ten top physicists were asked to describe in laymen's terms '''E=mc²''':<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/experts.html Lexi Krock, David Levin (editors) ''E=mc² explained'', June, 2005. PBS ''NOVA'']</ref>{{cquote|''Things that seem incredibly different can really be manifestations of the same underlying phenomena.''|||Nima Arkani-Hamed, Theoretical Physicist, Harvard University}}{{cquote|''You can get access to parts of nature you have never been able to get access to before.''|||Lene Hau, Experimental Physicist, Harvard University}}{{
cquote|''It certainly is not an equation that reveals all its subtlety in the few symbols that it takes to write down.''|||Brian Greene Theoretical Physicist Columbia University}}

== History of '''E=mc²''' ==

The [[Public Broadcasting Service]] explained the history of '''E=mc²''' for its NOVA series as follows:<ref>[http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/physics/ancestors-einstein.html David Bodanis ''Ancestors of E=mc²''], Nov 10, 2005, NOVA</ref>

{{cquote|Over time, [[physicist]]s became used to multiplying an object's mass by the square of its [[velocity]] (mv²) to come up with a useful indicator of its energy. If the velocity of a ball or rock was 100 mph, then they knew that the energy it carried would be proportional to its mass times 100 squared. If the velocity is raised as high as it could go, to 670 million mph, it's almost as if the ultimate energy an object will contain should be revealed when you look at its mass times c squared, or its mc².}}

==Experimental verification==
The first experimental verification for the equation was performed 1932 by a team of an English and an Irish physicist, John Cockcroft and Ernest Walton, as a byproduct of ''"their pioneer work on the transmutation of atomic nuclei by artificially accelerated atomic particles"''<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/# Nobel Prize Organization]</ref> for which they were honored with the [[Nobel Prize]] in physics in 1951. The idea of the mass defect - and its calculation using ''E=mc²'' can be found on page 169-170 of his Nobel lecture.<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/cockcroft-lecture.pdf John D. Cockroft ''Experiments on the interaction of high-speed nucleons with atomic nuclei''], Nobel Lecture, Dec 11, 1951</ref>

They bombarded [[Lithium]] atoms with [[protons]] having a [[kinetic energy]] less than 1 [[Electron-Volts|MeV]]. The result were two (slightly less heavy) [[α-particle]]s, for which the [[kinetic energy]] was measured as 17.3 MeV

:::::<math>{}_3^7\mathrm{Li}\, +\, {}_1^1\mathrm{H}\,\rightarrow\,2\, {}_2^4\mathrm{He}</math>

The mass of the particles on the left hand side is 8.0263 [[atomic mass units|amu]]s, the mass on the right hand side ''only'' 8.0077 amu.<ref>Gerard Piel ''The age of science: what scientists learned in the 20th century'', Basic Books, 2001, p. 144-145</ref> The difference between this masses is .00186 amu, which results in the following back-of-an-envelope calculation:

::::<math>0.00186\,\mathrm{amu} \cdot c^2 = 0.0186 \cdot 1.66 \cdot 10^{-27}\,\mathrm{kg}\cdot\left(3\cdot10^8\,\mathrm{\frac{m}{s}}\right)^2</math>
::::<math>\approx\,2.79\cdot 10^{-12} \,\mathrm{kg}\mathrm{\frac{m^2}{s^2}}</math>
::::<math>\approx \,17.3\,\mathrm{MeV}</math>

Accurate measurements and detailed calculations allowed for verifying the theoretical values with an accuracy of ±0.5%. This was the first time a nucleus was artificially split, and thereby the first transmutation of elements using accelerated particles:

Some claim that the best empirical verification of '''E=mc2''' was done in 2005 by Simon Rainville et al., as published in ''[[Nature (journal)|Nature]]'' (which is not a leading physics journal).<ref>[http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v438/n7071/full/4381096a.html Nature 438, 1096-1097 (22 December 2005)] doi:10.1038/4381096a; Published online 21 December 2005</ref> The authors state in their article in ''Nature'' magazine that "Einstein's relationship is separately confirmed in two tests, which yield a combined result of 1−Δmc²/E=(−1.4±4.4)×10−7, indicating that it holds to a level of at least 0.00004%. To our knowledge, this is the most precise direct test of the famous equation yet described."

==A Famous Example -- Nuclear Fission of Uranium==

For most types of physical interactions, the masses of the initial reactants and of the final products match so closely that it is essentially impossible to measure any difference. But for nuclear reactions, the difference is measurable. That difference is related to the energy absorbed or released, described by the equation E=mc². (The equation applies to '''all''' interactions; the fact that nuclear interactions are the only ones for which the mass difference is measurable has led people to believe, wrongly, that E=mc² applies only to nuclear interactions.)

The [[Theory of Relativity]] played no role in this work, but later tried to retrofit the theory to the data in order to explain the explain the observed mass changes. Here is the most famous example of the mass change.

Nuclear fission, which is the basis for nuclear energy, was discovered in experiments by [[Otto Hahn]] and [[Fritz Strassman]], and analyzed by [[Lise Meitner]], in 1938.

The decay path of [[Uranium]] that figured in the ''Hahn-Strassmann experiment'' may have been this:

:235U → 140Xe + 91Sr + 4n

(The [[Xenon]] decayed within about a minute to 140Ba. There are a large number of fission paths and fission products, but they were searching for the chemical signature of [[Barium]].)

The masses of the particles are:

{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"
! Substance
! 235U
! 140Xe
! 91Sr
! 4 neutrons
|-
| Number of protons
| 92
| 54
| 38
| 0
|-
| Number of neutrons
| 235
| 140
| 91
| 4
|-
| Number of electrons
| 92
| 54
| 38
| 0
|-
| Mass
| 235.04393
| 139.92164
| 90.910203
| 4.03466
|}

The mass of the Uranium atom is 235.04393, and the sum of the masses of the products is 234.866503. The difference is .177427 amu, or, using the E=mc² equation, 165 million electron volts. (The generally accepted value for the total energy released by Uranium fission, including secondary decays, is about 200 million electron volts.)

The insight that the conversion from Uranium to Barium was caused by complete fission of the atom was made by Lise Meitner in December, 1938. She had the approximate "mass defect" quantities memorized, and so she worked out in her head, using the E=mc² equation, that there would be this enormous release of energy. This release was observed shortly thereafter, and the result is nuclear power and nuclear weapons.

==A Topical Example: Speed of Extremely Energetic Neutrinos==
Here is another example of the use of this formula in physics calculations. Recently there has been quite a controversy over whether neutrinos were observed traveling at a speed faster than light. Relativity doesn't allow that, and, since neutrinos have nonzero (but incredibly tiny) mass, they aren't even supposed to travel ''at'' the speed of light. This very issue came up on the [[Talk:Main_Page#Neutrinos]]. The speeds under discussion were calculated by the use of E=mc2.

The mass of a neutrino is about 0.44x10-36kilograms. (Normally all of these things are measured in more convenient units such as Giga-electron-Volts, but that makes implicit use of E=mc2. If we don't accept that, we have to do the calculations under classical physics, using SI (meter/kilogram/second) units.) The neutrinos were accelerated to an energy of about 17GeV, or .27x10-8Joules. Using the classical formula <math>\mathrm{E} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2</math>, we get v=110x1012meters per second. This is about 370,000 times the speed of light.
However, the classical formula breaks down at speeds close to <math>c</math>, and indeed, as the speed of a massive object approaches <math>c</math>, the object's kinetic energy approaches <math>+\infty</math>.

Several scientists have gone on record stating that the neutrinos, which have mass, travel at precisely the speed of light. If true, this disproves the [[Theory of Relativity]] and the claim that '''E=mc2'''. However, it is more likely that those scientists are using language inaccurately. It is impossible to measure the speed of neutrinos precisely. What is meant is the difference between the speed of light and the speed of the neutrinos is too small to measure.

==Deducing the Equation From Empirical Observation==

While the equation was historically developed on theoretical grounds as an inevitable consequence of special relativity, it is possible to deduce it purely from empirical observation.

So, for the purposes of this section, imagine that one is in the era of "classical physics"; prior to 1900 or so. Relativity has not been invented, but, inexplicably, nuclear physics has. Imagine that the phenomena of radioactivity and nuclear fission have been observed, without any knowledge of relativity.

A well-accepted physical law of classical physics was the law of conservation of mass. This was not easy to deduce. It required careful analysis of such phenomena as combustion, in the 1700's, to eliminate the various confounding sub-phenomena that made the law difficult to see. But, by 1900, the law was well established:

:::*'''In all interactions, mass is precisely conserved.'''

For example, the mass of a TNT molecule is 227.1311 Daltons, or 227.1311 g/mol, which is, for all practical purposes, the same as the mass of its constituent Carbon, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, and Oxygen atoms. It is essentially impossible to measure the difference. The principle of conservation of mass is upheld.

But when nuclear phenomena are discovered, we notice something different. The masses of the result particles after an event (e.g. alpha decay, nuclear fission, or artificial transmutation) is measurably less than the masses of the original particle(s). With the invention of the mass spectrometer around 1920, it became possible to measure atomic weights of various isotopes with great precision.

Radium-226 decays into Radon-222 by emission of an alpha particle with an energy of 4.78 MeV.

1 kg of Radium-226 = <math>\frac{6.022 \times 10^{23}}{226.0254}</math> atoms. (The numerator is [[Avogadro's number]], and the denominator is the atomic weight of Radium-226.) This is 2.6643647 * 1024 atoms.

That number of Radon-222 atoms has mass .98226836 kg. That number of alpha particles has mass .01770863 kg.
The mass lost is .00002301 kg.

Each emitted alpha particle has energy of 4.78 MeV, or 4.78 * .1602 * 10-18 Joules. The total alpha energy from the decay of 1 kg of radium is 2.04 * 1012 Joules.

Also, Radon-222 decays into Polonium-218 by emission of an alpha particle with an energy of 5.49 MeV.

1 kg of Radon-222 = <math>\frac{6.022 \times 10^{23}}{222.0176}</math> atoms. This is 2.7124611 * 1024 atoms.

That number of Polonium-218 atoms has mass .98194467 kg. That number of alpha particles has mass .01802830 kg.

The mass lost is .00002703 kg.

Each emitted alpha particle has energy of 5.49 MeV. The total alpha energy from the decay of 1 kg of polonium is 2.39 * 1012 Joules.

It looks as thought we have to rewrite the law of conservation of mass:

:::*'''In all "ordinary" interactions, mass is precisely conserved.'''
:::*'''In nuclear interactions, there is a small but measurable loss of mass.'''

:By the way, we can clearly see that atomic weights of pure isotopes are not integers, and that it has something to do with the energy released by nuclear disintegration. In retrospect, the formula E=mc² explains the non-integer character of atomic weights.

Making special cases like this is unsatisfactory, of course.

We do this for a few other interactions, including the explosion of TNT. This would include the Lithium-plus-Hydrogen and Uranium fission phenomena described above. We won't bother with the details. As observational scientists, we look for patterns in the behavior of nature. We make a table:

{| class="wikitable" border="1" cellpadding="8" cellspacing="0"
! interaction
! energy released per kg, Joules
! mass lost per kg of original substance, kg
|-
| explosion of TNT
| 4.184 * 106
| seems to be zero
|-
| alpha decay of Ra-226
| 2.04 * 1012
| .00002301 kg
|-
| alpha decay of Rn-222
| 2.39 * 1012
| .00002703 kg
|}

We plot these, and a few others, not shown, on graph paper, and find to our amazement that the relationship is linear.

For Ra, m/E = .112794118 E-16
For Po, m/E = .113096234 E-16

If this is linear, the mass defect for TNT would have been .47 * 10-10. We couldn't possibly have measured this.

So we can rewrite the rule for conservation of mass in a more satisfactory way:

:::*'''In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to about .113 * 10-16 kg per Joule of energy released.'''

What we thought was exact conservation is just very nearly exact, and we hadn't been able to measure it before.

But maybe there's more. This constant has dimensions of kilograms per Joule. From high-school physics, we know that that is seconds squared divided by meters squared. That is, it is the reciprocal of the square of a velocity. We calculate that velocity. It is about 2.97 * 108 meters per second. Very close to the speed of light! Very interesting! (The calculations above were not extremely precise. The formula has been verified with great precision, but not here.)

We don't understand why (that will have to wait for the invention of relativity), but we can formulate a hypothesis:

:::*'''In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to <math>\frac{1}{c^2}</math> times the amount of energy released.'''

We don't have to give the units any more, since everything is now dimensionally correct.

::There is a very interesting analogy with the discovery of [[Maxwell's Equations]]. Maxwell found an interesting relationship involving the fundamental constants <math>\epsilon\,</math> and <math>\mu\,</math> appearing in his equations. Specifically, <math>\epsilon\mu\,</math> has the dimensions of seconds squared divided by meters squared, and that:

:::::<math>\frac{1}{\epsilon\mu} = c^2</math>

::where "c" was the known velocity of light. He also showed that his equations predict electromagnetic waves, propagating at that speed.

==See also==
*[[Counterexamples to Relativity]]
*[[essay:Rebuttal to Counterexamples to Relativity]]

== References ==
<references />
[[Category:relativity]]
[[Category:physics]]
[[Category:science]]
[[Category:Bible]]

Talk:Mark 1-8 (Translated)

2013-01-24T22:19:54Z

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#Redirect [[Talk:Gospel of Mark (Translated)]]

Mark 1-8 (Translated)

2013-01-24T20:23:07Z

DouglasA: Reverted edits by AugustO (talk) to last revision by DouglasA

==Chapter 1==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
|The beginning of the good news of Jesus Christ, the Son of God:
|The Greek word '''ευαγγελιον''' or ''evangelion'' means literally "a good message." "Gospel" is an Old English word meaning "a good story." Today the best phrase is "good news."
|-
|2
|As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
|As was written by [[Isaiah]] the prophet: "Behold, I am sending My messenger before your face, who will prepare your way.
|The best manuscripts do in fact mention Isaiah directly.
|-
|3
|The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
|The voice of a messenger preaching among skeptics, 'Prepare for the way of the Lord and make straight His path.'"
|The wilderness is a metaphor for the unrepentant crowd. Why would he cry out in the wilderness, where none would hear? Too often taken as literal.
|-
|4
|John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
|As it happened, John was baptizing in the desert, preaching repentance and the forgiveness of sins.
|The Greek verb '''βαπτιζω''' or ''baptidzo'' means literally "I give someone a bath." The bath is a total-immersion bath.
|-
|5
|And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.
|Everyone from the country of [[Judea]] and [[Jerusalem]] went to him, confessing their sins and receiving baptism in the Jordan River.
|
|-
|6
|And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;
|John survived on bare necessities, wearing a camel's hair habit with a leather loin wrap; his food consisted of locusts and wild [[honey]];
|
|-
|7
|And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
|He preached to the crowd, "There will be someone so much greater that I am not even fit to stoop and untie his sandal straps for him."
|
|-
|8
|I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
|"I have baptized you with water, but He shall baptize you with the Divine Guide."
|tentatively using "Divine Guide" per talk page. "With the power of the" does not appear.
|-
|9
|And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
|Jesus then came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan River.
|
|-
|10
|And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
|And as soon as Jesus emerged from the water, the heavens opened and the Divine Guide descended like a dove upon Him:
|See 8.
|-
|11
|And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
|A voice came from heaven declaring, "You are my beloved Son whom I value greatly."
|Saying you 'love' a 'beloved' person may be poor english.
|-
|12
|And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
|The Divine Guide then led Jesus into the desert.
|it was more a desert than a wilderness. See 8 re. Guide.
|-
|13
|And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
|He remained in the desert for forty days, where Satan tested Him; and He was with wild animals as the angels waited on Him.
|The Greek '''πειραζω''' or ''peiradzo'' means "I test." This "testing" is like an engineer's test. Matthew and Luke give far greater detail of Jesus's Final Examination.
|-
|14
|Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.
|Next, after John was arrested, Jesus arrived in Galilee and preached the good news of the kingdom of God,
|Consistency with verse 1
|-
|15
|And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
|He said, "The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand. Change your hearts and believe the good news."
|Gospel (good news) is a literal translation of the Greek word '''ευαγγελιον'''.
|-
|16
|Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
|As He was walking by the Sea of Galilee, He saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen,
|The "Sea of Galilee" is today known as Lake Tiberias.
|-
|17
|And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
|And Jesus said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men."
|
|-
|18
|And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.
|Dropping their nets at once, they followed him.
|straightway and forsook are largely unused. The word rendered "forsake" actually means to abandon or, in this case, to set aside.
|-
|19
|And when he had gone a little further thence, he saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the ship mending their nets.
|When He had traveled a little further, He saw James, the son of Zebedee, and John, his brother, who were also in their boat, mending their nets.
|The Greek word '''πλοιον''' or ''ploion'' means any sailing vessel of any size. The vessels of Lake Tiberias were never of a size that deserves the designation of "ship" in modern English. Vessels of that size sailed the Mediterranean Sea, not the Sea of Galilee.

The use of the definite article with ''ploion'' means that the two brothers were on a particular boat. This is most likely the boat that their father owned; hence the possessive pronoun.
|-
|20
|And straightway he called them: and they left their father Zebedee in the ship with the hired servants, and went after him.
|He called to them, and they left their father Zebedee and his crew aboard the boat, and went with Jesus.
|The Greek word '''μισθωτος''' or ''misthotos'' means one who works for hire; in this case a "hand," or member of a boat's crew.
|-
|21
|And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
|They went into Capernaum and as soon as He arrived He entered the synagogue on the holy day to teach.
|'Holy day' rather than sabbath? - modern terminology
|-
|22
|And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
|There, the listeners were astonished by his doctrine, for He taught as a man of great authority, not as a scribe.
|"They" is a needlessly vague term for the audience
|-
|23
|And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
|A man with an evil spirit was in the synagogue.
|The Greek '''πνευμα ακαθαρτης''' or ''pneuma akathartis'' means literally "unclean spirit." This refers to a spirit being having no relationship to God, i.e., a demon.
|-
|24
|Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
|He shouted, "Leave us alone, Jesus of Nazareth, for we're none of your business. Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God."
|The idiomatic phrase "what have I to do with you" or "what have we to do with you" is best expressed in modern English as "Mind your own business" or a similar phrase.
|-
|25
|And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
|Jesus then scolded the spirit, and said, "Stop moaning and pull out of him."
|Satan rarely possesses a man by himself; he sends his minions, called demons to do that "dirty work" for him.
|-
|26
|And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.
|The evil spirit was then ripped away from the possessed man, cried out in a loud voice, and left him.
|Passive rather than active to indicate Jesus' role?
|-
|27
|And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.
|The bystanders were all amazed, and asked each other, "What is happening? Is this a new doctrine? He acted with authority in ordering the evil spirits, and they obeyed him!"
|
|-
|28
|And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee.
|The news about Jesus spread immediately throughout Galilee.
|
|-
|29
|And forthwith, when they were come out of the synagogue, they entered into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
|As soon as Jesus's group left the synagogue, they entered the home of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
|
|-
|30
|But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
|But Simon's mother-in-law was in bed sick with a fever, and Jesus was told.
|
|-
|31
|And he came and took her by the hand, and lifted her up; and immediately the fever left her, and she ministered unto them.
|So he came and, taking her by her hand, helped her stand up; and when she did the fever immediately passed, and she served the others.
|
|-
|32
|And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils.
|At sundown the people brought to Jesus many sick people, and many demon-oppressed people,
|
|-
|33
|And all the city was gathered together at the door.
|And all the city's people gathered at His door.
|
|-
|34
|And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.
|Jesus healed many who were diseased, and He threw out many demons; he commanded the demons to be silent, and they obeyed because they knew Jesus as God.
|"Threw out many demons" sounds a bit strange. "Drove out" may be a better rendering of Greek εξεβαλεν.
|-
|35
|And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.
|In the early morning, long before dawn, He left to pray by himself.
|
|-
|36
|And Simon and they that were with him followed after him.
|Simon and the others followed Him,
|
|-
|37
|And when they had found him, they said unto him, All men seek for thee.
|And upon finding him they said, "Everyone is looking for You."
|Seems a bit awkward
|-
|38
|And he said unto them, Let us go into the next towns, that I may preach there also: for therefore came I forth.
|Jesus replied, "Let us travel to the other towns, so I may preach in them too, for that is the reason I came."
|
|-
|39
|And he preached in their synagogues throughout all Galilee, and cast out devils.
|And he preached in the synagogues and threw out demons throughout Galilee.
|
|-
|40
|And there came a leper to him, beseeching him, and kneeling down to him, and saying unto him, If thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
|A leper came to him, kneeling and imploring him, saying, "If you wish it, please cure my illness."
|"Make clean" replaced with the modern concept "cure." Does this change/mask the meaning?
|-
|41
|And Jesus, moved with compassion, put forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, I will; be thou clean.
|Jesus was moved by compassion, and putting out his hand to touch him, replied, "I will. Be cured."
|See 40.
|-
|42
|And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed.
|Immediately after Jesus had spoken, the leprosy departed the man, and he was cured.
|See 40.
|-
|43
|And he straitly charged him, and forthwith sent him away;
|Jesus gave him strict orders to leave at once;
|
|-
|44
|And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
|And said to him, "Tell no one, but be on your way and show yourself to the priest, offering in thanks for your healing what Moses commanded. This will serve as testimony to others."
|
|-
|45
|But he went out, and began to publish it much, and to blaze abroad the matter, insomuch that Jesus could no more openly enter into the city, but was without in desert places: and they came to him from every quarter.
|But the cured man immediately announced to all what had happened, and the publicity made it impossible for Jesus to enter any city openly. He withdrew to the desert, but the people still came to him from everywhere.
|
|}

==Chapter 2==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And again he entered into Capernaum, after some days; and it was noised that he was in the house.
|He returned to Capernaum after several days, and the news spread that He was at home.
|The Greek literally reads "it was heard that he was in house."
|-
|2
|And straightway many were gathered together, insomuch that there was no room to receive them, no, not so much as about the door: and he preached the word unto them.
|A large crowd immediately filled the room to capacity, so many that the door was blocked to access by others, as He was speaking the Truth to them.
|
|-
|3
|And they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was borne of four.
|They brought him a paralyzed man, carried by four men.
|
|-
|4
|And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay.
|Finding they could not reach Him, because the crowd was so thick, they removed the roof above Him and, when they had done so, lowered the paralytic in his bed.
|
|-
|5
|When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
|Seeing their faith in Him, He told the paralyzed man, "Son, your sins are forgiven."
|
|-
|6
|But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
|Some scribes were sitting in the crowd. They thought to themselves,
|
|-
|7
|Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
|"Why is this Man speaking such blasphemy? Who can forgive our sins but God Himself?"
|Capitalized on account of Who He is, not on account of what the scribes thought He was.

A ''scribe'' was one having the specific job of copying out the Jewish Scriptures (the [[Old Testament]]) from old copies that were falling apart. Scribes also commonly taught the Scriptures in the synagogues. The problem was that they taught from rote memory, and the clear implication, here and elsewhere, is that these scribes memorized the text as if for recital but never really read it for understanding, much less personal lifestyle application.
|-
|8
|And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
|Jesus immediately perceived in His spirit what they were thinking, and he asked them, "Why are you so hostile to this?
|the hostility was to the forgiveness
|-
|9
|Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?
|"Is it easier to tell a paralyzed man that his sins are forgiven, or to pick up his bed and walk?
|
|-
|10
|But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
|"But to remove any doubt about the Son of man's power on earth to forgive sins," he next said to the paralyzed man,
|
|-
|11
|I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.
|"Get up, carry your bed, and go home!"
|
|-
|12
|And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.
|And he got up, carried his bed, and left, in plain sight of the crowd. Amazed, they all praised God, saying, "We've never seen such a thing before."
|The Greek idiom is very close to this.
|-
|13
|And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them.
|Jesus continued along the seaside, and all the crowds thronged around Him, and He taught them.
|
|-
|14
|And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
|He passed Levi, son of Alphaeus, at a tax office and told him, "Follow me." Levi arose and followed.
|Some manuscripts give this man's name as "James."
|-
|15
|And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
|As it happened, Jesus then dined at His house with a great many tax collectors and sinners who chose to follow Him.
|The English word ''publican'' is not from the Greek. It is the [[Latin]] word ''publicanus'', meaning a private citizen commissioned to collect taxes for the Roman government and empowered to collect more than the tax from the people and keep the balance. This policy was controversial even in Rome itself, and especially in Judea Province, where tax collectors were regarded as the lowest form of scum in Jewish society.
|-
|16
|And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
|Seeing him eating with the tax collectors and sinners, the Pharisees and scribes demanded of His students, "Why does he eat and drink with these tax collectors and sinners?"
|
|-
|17
|When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
|Hearing this, Jesus replied, "It is not the healthy but the sick that need a doctor. I did not come to call the just to change their hearts, but instead the sinners."
|
|-
|18
|And the disciples of John and of the Pharisees used to fast: and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not?
|The students of John and of the Pharisees used to fast. And so they came and asked Him, "Why do the students of John and of the Pharisees fast, but Your students do not?"
|
|-
|19
|And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.
|To this Jesus replied, "Why should the members of the wedding party fast, so long as the bridegroom is among them? While he remains, they have no cause to fast."
|"Cannot" implies impossibility, rather than lack of necessity. They have no cause to fast so long as the Son is with them.
|-
|20
|But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
|"Soon it will be that the bridegroom will be taken from them, and only then will they fast."
|
|-
|21
|No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse.
|"No man patches old clothing with a new piece of cloth, as it will pull apart as it ages, making the tear worse.
|
|-
|22
|And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.
|"And no man puts fresh grape juice into old bottles. The fresh juice will burst the bottles, spilling the juice and damaging the bottles. Fresh juice must be put into new bottles."
|The Greek word '''οινος''', translated "wine," actually meant "fruit of the vine" and was not fermented, as it commonly is today. Repeated references in the Book of Proverbs tell their readers specifically to avoid fermented grape juice. Furthermore, at least five methods of preservation were known to the ancients, methods that avoided fermentation, long before [[Louis Pasteur]] would invent his pressure-cooking method.
|-
|23
|And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
|On one Sabbath day, He traveled through the corn fields, and His students started to pluck the ears of corn as they passed.
|
|-
|24
|And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
|The Pharisees cried, "Look! You're breaking Sabbath regulations!"
|The Pharisees were notorious for promulgating regulations about proper religious living. Half of those regulations weren't even in Scripture. The extensive body of regulations that they invented, on the theory of what constituted "working on the Sabbath," was a prize example.
|-
|25
|And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
|To this Jesus replied, "Haven't you read what David and his allies did, when he was hungry and in need?"
|
|-
|26
|How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
|"How he went into God's temple, in the times of the [[High Priest]] [[Abiathar]], and ate the blessed bread - the bread which only priests are allowed to eat - and fed his allies with it?"
|Actually, the high priest at the time was Abiathar's father [[Ahimelech I]]. But Abiathar was present when this incident occurred, and continued to follow David after Ahimelech was assassinated.
|-
|27
|And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
|Jesus told them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath,
|clarifies role of Sabbath, against slavish observation to the point of hurting man.
|-
|28
|Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
|and therefore the Son of man is also Lord of the Sabbath."
|
|}

==Chapter 3==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.
|Jesus returned to the synagogue, and noticed man with a crippled hand.
|
|-
|2
|And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.
|They were watching Jesus to see if they might catch and accuse him of healing on the Sabbath.
|Presumably "they" are the [[Pharisees]]. See talk.
|-
|3
|And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth.
|Jesus told the man with the crippled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."
|
|-
|4
|And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
|Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: doing good or evil? Saving a life, or killing one?" And they didn't answer.
|
|-
|5
|And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
|Jesus looked around at them, feeling anger and pity for the hardness of their hearts, and said to the injured man, "Open your hand." He then opened and held out his hand, and it was as good as new.
|
|-
|6
|And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.
|The Pharisees then fled from the scene to plot with the Herodians against Jesus, and plan how they might destroy him.
|The Herodians were a sect among the Jews who were political partisans of [[Herod Antipas]]. Normally the Pharisees had nothing to do with this faction. In this, as in many other contexts, "[[politics]] makes strange bedfellows."
|-
|7
|But Jesus withdrew himself with his disciples to the sea: and a great multitude from Galilee followed him, and from Judaea,
|Jesus then departed for the quiet of a lake, but crowds from Galilee and [[Judea]] followed him,
|The body of water called the "Sea of Galilee" in the Greek is called Lake Tiberias today and was and is in fact a fresh-water lake, not an extension of the [[ocean]] system that a true "sea" would be.
|-
|8
|And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him.
|And crowds went to Jesus from [[Jerusalem]], [[Idumea]], [[Tyre]] and [[Sidon]], and from beyond the Jordan River, after hearing of his great deeds for the sick.
|modernize spelling: Idumaea -> Idumea
|-
|9
|And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should throng him.
|Jesus asked His students for a small boat that would enable him to keep a distance from pressing crowds.
|
|-
|10
|For he had healed many; insomuch that they pressed upon him for to touch him, as many as had plagues.
|Jesus had healed many people, so that many diseased persons pressed on Him trying to touch Him.
|The word used here for "disease" is actually the Greek word '''μαστιξ''' or ''mastix'', literally a whip or the beating one might receive from a whip. This is obviously a violent metaphor that Mark used for illness.
|-
|11
|And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
|Upon seeing Jesus, evil spirits fell down before him crying, "You are the Son of God!"
|need to add something to convey that these spirits possessed people
|-
|12
|And he straitly charged them that they should not make him known.
|But Jesus strictly commanded them not to tell others who he was.
|
|-
|13
|And he goeth up into a mountain, and calleth unto him whom he would: and they came unto him.
|He then walked up a mountain, calling whomever He wanted to follow him, and they did.
|
|-
|14
|And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,
|He appointed twelve men as Apostles, to be with him, so he could send them to preach to the world,
|Some manuscripts, including the Byzantine, don't have the phrase "to be apostles." ''Apostle'' literally means "one sent out." These men were the first-ever missionaries.
|-
|15
|And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:
|and to have the authority to throw demons out of people.
|
|-
|16
|And Simon he surnamed Peter;
|Jesus gave the surname of Peter to Simon.
|
|-
|17
|And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:
|He also appointed James and his brother John, the sons of Zebedee, and called them "Boanerges," which means "The Sons of Thunder":
|
|-
|18
|And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
|His other apointees were Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
|This might be the source of the confusion, by a later copyist, of this "James son of Alphaeus" with ''Levi'' son of Alphaeus, the tax collector. The other name of Levi, given here, is ''Matthew''.
|-
|19
|And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house.
|And Judas Iscariot, who was to betray Jesus: and they all entered a house
|note how the [[KJV]] uses "which" for persons, rather than the more respectful "who"; the KJV also uses "an" rather than "a" before a word that begins with "h"
|-
|20
|And the multitude cometh together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread.
|But the crowd pressed upon them so much that they could not even eat.
|
|-
|21
|And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.
|When Jesus's own family heard of this, they went to rescue him, saying, "He is out of his mind."
|note how even Jesus's own family felt less of him
|-
|22
|And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
|Some scribes from Jerusalem came also, smearing Jesus by saying "He has [[Beelzebub]] and throws out demons by calling on the leader of demons!"
|This [[Beelzebub]] (literally, Lord of the Flies) is another name for [[Satan]], but was also a pagan Canaanite god during the time of [[Elijah]].
|-
|23
|And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
|But Jesus called them together and taught in parables, and asked "How can Satan cast out Satan?
|
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|24
|And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
|"A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
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|25
|And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
|"Nor can a house divided against itself stand."
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|26
|And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
|"So if Satan were divided against himself, he could not stand, and would perish."
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|27
|No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
|"No one can break into a well-armed man's house to destroy his property, unless he first tie the man down. Only then can he damage his home.
|"Strong" replaced with modern equivalent of defended
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|28
|Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
|"I tell you: all the sons of men will be forgiven their sins and their blasphemies, whatever they might be:
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|29
|But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
|"But any man who blasphemes against the Divine Guide will never be forgiven, but risks eternal damnation."
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|30
|Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
|This Jesus told them because they lied, "He has an evil spirit."
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|31
|There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
|His mother and his brothers, who were standing outside, asked to see him.
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|32
|And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
|The crowd around Jesus said to him, "Your mother and brothers are outside, looking for you."
|Some manuscripts omit the brothers.
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|33
|And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
|To which he responded, "Who is My mother, or My brothers?"
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|34
|And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
|Then, looking around at the gathered crowed, he said, "You are My mother and My brothers!
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|35
|For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
|"Whoever does what God wants, qualifies as My brother, sister or mother."
|
|}

==Chapter 4==

{| class="wikitable"
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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
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|1
|And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.
|Jesus returned to teaching again on the seashore, but the crowd was so overwhelming that he turned a boat into a makeshift pulpit while the people pressed to the shoreline.
|The acoustics at many shore sites on Lake Tiberias are in fact good enough to allow this.
|-
|2
|And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
|He taught them many things, using parables. During one of His lessons, He said,
|The Greek '''διδαχη''' or ''didache'' can mean the subject being taught, the act of teaching, or a particular lesson.
|-
|3
|Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
|"Listen. A farmer went out to sow a crop.
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|4
|And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
|"As he sowed, some seed was scattered on the path, and birds came and ate it up.
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|5
|And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
|"Some fell on stony ground, which lacked deep soil. It grew quickly,
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|6
|But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
|"But once the sun was out, it was scorched and withered away, as its roots were too shallow.
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|7
|And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
|"Some was scattered among weeds, which choked it, and it didn't produce fruit.
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|8
|And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
|"But some seed fell upon good soil and produced a great deal of fruit, thirty, sixty, even one-hundred times the original investment."
|Clear language of "increase"
|-
|9
|And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
|Then Jesus said to them, "let any man who has ears hear."
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|10
|And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
|Privately a few along with the twelve Apostles asked Jesus about the parable.
|
|-
|11
|And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
|He said to them, "You have been granted insight into the secrets of the Kingdom of God, but to others these things are done in parables,
|
|-
|12
|That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
|that they may see but not perceive and hear but not understand; otherwise they might convert, and then their sins would be forgiven."
|This verse, and the one preceding, is one of the earliest statements concerning the ''predestination'' and ''unconditional election'' of believers.
|-
|13
|And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
|Then He asked them, "Don't you understand this parable? If not, how will you understand any other parables?
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|14
|The sower soweth the word.
|"The farmer plants the Truth.
|
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|15
|And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
|"As for the people who are on the roadside, where the seeds are scattered, Satan comes as soon they have heard the truth, and takes it from their hearts.
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|16
|And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
|"Likewise with those planted on the stony ground: when they hear the Truth, they receive It with joy,
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|-
|17
|And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
|"But they have little deep-down understanding of It, so they endure in the Truth only briefly. Afterward, when they must face oppression persecution for the sake of the Truth, all at once they have doubts about It.
|"Root in themselves" made clearer for modern english readers.
|-
|18
|And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
|"Then there are those planted among the thorns. They hear the word,
|
|-
|19
|And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
|"But because of worldly concerns, the deceit of wealth, and other desires, the Truth is suffocated and cannot bear fruit."
|The "deceit of wealth" is not the having of wealth but the trusting in wealth as a primary sustainer.
|-
|20
|And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
|"Finally are those planted in good ground. They hear the Truth, accept It, and produce good fruit in their turn, sometimes thirty, sixty, or even one hundred times more."
|
|-
|21
|And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?
|Then he asked them, "Do we light candles only to hide them under a bushel basket or a bed, rather than to place them on candlesticks?
|The word rendered "bushel" is the Roman ''modius,'' the largest dry measure in use throughout the Roman Empire.
|-
|22
|For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
|"Nothing is hidden which will not be brought to light. Likewise any secret kept will soon become known.
|
|-
|23
|If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
|"If a man is willing to listen, let him hear the Truth."
|
|-
|24
|And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.
|Then he said to them, "Be careful of what you listen to. Whichever measure you apply, you shall be measured accordingly, and those of you who listen will be given more."
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|25
|For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.
|"He who has will be given, while he doesn't will see that little which he has taken from him."
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|26
|And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
|"The kingdom of God is the same way. If someone sows seed on the ground,
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|-
|27
|And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.
|"And goes to sleep and waits several days, plants will spring from the seeds, though he doesn't know how.
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|28
|For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.
|"Because it is the earth that brings forth the fruit: first a blade, then an ear of corn, then the corn itself."
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|29
|But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.
|"And when the fruit has been produced, he brings out the sickle and harvests his produce."
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|30
|And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?
|Then he said, "What will we say God's kingdom is like? What sort of metaphor will we use?
|Actually the Greek uses the word ''parable'', which is a metaphorical story.
|-
|31
|It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
|It's like a single mustard seed, which is smaller than all other seeds on earth when placed in the ground,
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|-
|32
|But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.
|But once planted, it grows larger than all the other herbs and grows large branches, so the birds can shelter under its shadow."
|
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|33
|And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it.
|He used many parables like this one to preach God's word in a way that they could understand.
|Make clear that it's God's word, and that 'hear' means 'understand' in this context.
|-
|34
|But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
|But He never used parables when speaking to His own men. He explained everything to His own students.
|The Greek '''ιδιος''' means "one's own."
|-
|35
|And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side.
|Later that day, around sunset, He said to them: "Let's cross over to the opposite shore."
|Modernized word choices.
|-
|36
|And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.
|They dismissed the crowd, and then cast off in the boat where Jesus had been preaching, with Jesus still on board. Some other boats also went with them.
|'even as he was' needs some explanation for the modern reader.
|-
|37
|And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.
|Suddenly a fierce storm came, with strong winds. Waves started to break over the boat, so that it began to fill with water.
|Such squalls occur frequently on Lake Tiberias even today.
|-
|38
|And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?
|Jesus was sleeping on a cushion in the stern of the boat. They woke him saying, "Master, don't you care that we'll capsize and drown?"
|
|-
|39
|And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
|He got up and disapproved of the wind, and laid down the sea to an orderly and controlled state. The wind then stopped, and there was complete calm.
|This is often mistranslated as [[Jesus]] saying a command, when the more straightforward translation is consistent with [[quantum mechanics]]: it was his observation and [[faith]], not the spoken word, that ended the [[chaos]]. φιμόω: means to be kept in check, not a spoken command. Note that the similar descriptions in Matthew and Luke do not entail a spoken command.
|-
|40
|And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
|He asked them, "Why are you so afraid? Why haven't you any [[faith]]?"
|
|-
|41
|And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?
|Filled with awe, they asked each other: "What kind of Man is He, such that even the wind and sea obey Him?
|
|}

==Chapter 5==

{| class="wikitable"
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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
|They reached the other side of the lake, which was in the region where the Gadarenes lived.
|Most manuscripts say "Gerasenes," which is an alternative name for these people. They were the descendants of [[Gad]], one of the twelve sons of [[Jacob]].
|-
|2
|And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
|As Jesus disembarked the boat, he was immediately confronted by a possessed man,
|
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|3
|Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
|who was homeless and slept in a cemetery; no man had the strength to restrain him, not even with chains:
|avoid feminist style of seeking gender neutrality by replacing "man" with "one"; the reference is obviously to men not being able to restrain him, not to women
|-
|4
|Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
|Many times, he had been restrained by leg irons and chains, but he had thrown off the chains and broken the leg irons to pieces. No man could control him.
|The word originally rendered "fetters" means "leg irons."
|-
|5
|And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
|Day and night he roamed the mountains and tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.
|
|-
|6
|But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
|But when he glimpsed Jesus at a distance, he ran up to Him and fell down at His feet.
|
|-
|7
|And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
|He cried out loudly, "What business do I have with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you in God's name not to torment me."
|The Greek word '''υψιστος''' (''hypsistos'') literally means "highest."
|-
|8
|For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
|Because Jesus had proclaimed, "Get out of that man, evil spirit."
|
|-
|9
|And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
|Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" He answered, "My name is 'Legion', because we are many."
|
|-
|10
|And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
|He begged Jesus not to expel him from the region.
|The Greek word '''χωρα''', meaning "country," does not mean a nation-state. If Mark had meant that, he would have used the word '''βασιλεια''', or "kingdom."
|-
|11
|Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
|Near the mountains where they were, a large herd of pigs was feeding.
|Pigs more modern than archaic swine
|-
|12
|And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
|The demons all begged Jesus, "Send us to the pigs, so that we may possess them."
|
|-
|13
|And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
|Jesus then granted the demons the permission they sought. The demons left the man and possessed the pigs, and the herd rand violently down a steep embankment to drown in the sea, all two thousand of them.
|
|-
|14
|And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
|Those in charge of the pigs fled and told everyone in the town and countryside. People then went to see for themselves what had happened.
|
|-
|15
|And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
|They saw Jesus and the man formerly possessed, who was in his right mind and sitting peacefully, fully dressed; the people became afraid upon seeing him.
|
|-
|16
|And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
|Witnesses to the episode described for the people what had happened to the possessed man, and about the pigs.
|
|-
|17
|And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
|The terrified people began to plead that Jesus leave their area.
|
|-
|18
|And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
|When Jesus got back aboard His boat, the man who had been possessed begged Jesus to let him join His company.
|
|-
|19
|Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
|Instead, Jesus told him, "Return home to your friends, and tell them how the Lord has done wonders for you with compassion."
|In contrast to the usual instructions that Jesus gives, He asks the Gadarene to tell everyone he meets what happened to him. This might be because the Gadarene region was opposite Lake Tiberias from Jerusalem.
|-
|20
|And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
|So the man left and began speaking publicly in Decapolis about Jesus's great works for him, and everyone who heard the story was very much amazed.
|The Greek word '''θαυμαζομαι''' (''thaumadzomai'') connotes the "Wow!" degree of amazement.
|-
|21
|And when Jesus was passed over again by ship unto the other side, much people gathered unto him: and he was nigh unto the sea.
|A huge crowd was awaiting Jesus on the opposite coast as he crossed by boat, so He stayed on the seashore.
|
|-
|22
|And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue, Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet,
|One of the leaders of the synagogue, named Jairus, joined the crowd. When he saw Jesus, he threw himself at His feet,
|The usual Greek word '''ιδου''' ("Look!" or "Behold!") does not appear in the original.
|-
|23
|And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.
|and begged Him urgently, saying "My little daughter is dying. Please come and put Your hands on her, so that she will be healed; and then she will live."
|The Greek idiomatic phrase '''εσχατως εχω''' (''eschatos echo'', "I finally have") is best translated as "I am dying."
|-
|24
|And Jesus went with him; and much people followed him, and thronged him.
|Jesus accompanied him; many people followed Jesus, pressing Him on all sides.
|
|-
|25
|And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,
|One woman who had suffered from hemorrhages for twelve years,
|
|-
|26
|And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,
|and had suffered further from mistreatments by doctors, having spent all she had on them without any improvement; her condition even worsened.
|The "mistreatments" referred to here are conventional therapies that did more harm than good.
|-
|27
|When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.
|When she heard about Jesus she crowded behind Him and touched his clothes,
|
|-
|28
|For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.
|Because as she had said, "If I can just touch His clothes, I will be made well."
|
|-
|29
|And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.
|Instantly the hemorrhages ceased, and she felt cured of her illness.
|
|-
|30
|And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?
|Jesus immediately realized that power had discharged from him, and turned to the pressing crowd to say, "Who touched my clothes?"
|
|-
|31
|And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?
|His students replied, "You see the huge crowd pressing against you, and yet you ask, 'Who touched me'"?
|The astonishment of His students is self-evident.
|-
|32
|And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.
|Jesus turned and scanned the crowd to find her.
|
|-
|33
|But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.
|But the terrified, trembling woman, aware of the miracle, came and bowed at Jesus's feet, and told him the entire truth.
|
|-
|34
|And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
|Jesus said to her: "Daughter, your faith has saved you. Go with peace of mind, and live a life free from that terrible disease."
|The actual Greek phrase is "saved you," not "made you well."
|-
|35
|While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further?
|While Jesus was speaking, people told the synagogue leader, "Your daughter has died. Why bother this teacher any more?"
|
|-
|36
|As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.
|But as soon as Jesus heard about this, he said to the father, "Don't be afraid; only believe."
|
|-
|37
|And he suffered no man to follow him, save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.
|Jesus then allowed no one to follow Him, except Peter, James, and James' brother John.
|
|-
|38
|And he cometh to the house of the ruler of the synagogue, and seeth the tumult, and them that wept and wailed greatly.
|He came to the synagogue leader's home, and saw the mourning, and all those who wept and cried enormously.
|
|-
|39
|And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.
|When Jesus entered the house, he said to them, "What is the reason for all this uproar and crying? The girl is not dead - she's just asleep!"
|The mourners were in fact exaggerating, as was the custom of the day.
|-
|40
|And they laughed him to scorn. But when he had put them all out, he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel, and them that were with him, and entereth in where the damsel was lying.
|They laughed and ridiculed him. But after he evicted them all, he took the girl's mother and father with Him and His three students to where she was lying,
|
|-
|41
|And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.
|and taking her by the hand, said, "''talitha cumi''", which means "girl, I tell you to rise."
|
|-
|42
|And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.
|Immediately the 12-year-old girl got up and walked. The onlookers were positively astounded.
|In Greek (and also in Hebrew), repetition is sometimes done for emphasis, as in this case.
|-
|43
|And he charged them straitly that no man should know it; and commanded that something should be given her to eat.
|Jesus gave them strict orders not to tell anyone what had happened, and then commanded that the girl should be given something to eat.
|
|}

==Chapter 6==

{| class="wikitable"
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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him.
|Jesus then traveled home, followed by his students.
|
|-
|2
|And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
|On the next Sabbath, Jesus began teaching in the synagogue. Many were amazed, and declared, "How does this Man know so much? What kind of wisdom has been given to Him, enabling Him to perform such wonderful deeds?
|The Greek word '''εκπλησομαι''' (''ekplesomai'', I am amazed) typically stands for a mild sort of amazement, something less than "Wow!"
|-
|3
|Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
|Isn't this the carpenter we know, the son of Mary, the brother of James, Joseph, Judah and Simon? Don't we also know his sisters here?" So the public rejected Him.
|The Greek idiom '''σκανδαλιζομαι εν''' (skandalidzomai en) with the dative case means "I reject someone," or "I have doubts about someone."
|-
|4
|But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
|Jesus replied to their complaints, "A prophet lacks honor only in his own hometown, among his neighbors and in his own home."
|avoid compound negative
|-
|5
|And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
|Jesus was unable to perform any marvelous works in that area, except for healing a few sick people by laying His hands on them.
|His power might have been withheld because the people lacked faith in Him. Usually, if Jesus does a miraculous favor for someone, that someone previously believed that He could do it.
|-
|6
|And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
|He was in fact shocked at their lack of faith. He traveled around the villages in that area, teaching the people who lived there.
|Emphasize faith; superb use of [[faith]] here!
|-
|7
|And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
|He gathered the Twelve, and began to send them out in pairs, giving them the power to cast out evil spirits.
|The phrase ''pneumatoi acathartoi'' stands primarily for Satan's minions.
|-
|8
|And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
|He instructed them to take only a walking stick, and to bring nothing else: no bag, no bread, and no money in their belts,
|The Greek word used, '''χαλκον''' (''chalcon'') actually means small change, like the loose change that a modern Westerner keeps in his trouser pockets.
|-
|9
|But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
|and to wear only sandals, and not to wear two coats.
|
|-
|10
|And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
|He told them, "Whichever house you stay in while in a town, stay there until you leave that town.
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|11
|And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
|"And if anyone will not take you in or listen to you, when leaving them, shake the dust from under your feet as an indictment against their conduct. I tell you truly, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah will fare better on the day of judgment than that city."
|The "shaking of dust from the shoes" was a ritual in which a man took off his shoes and clapped them together.
|-
|12
|And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
|Thus they went among the towns, preaching repentance.
|
|-
|13
|And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
|There they cast out many demons, anointed the ill with oil, and healed them of their afflictions.
|
|-
|14
|And king Herod heard of him; (for his name was spread abroad): and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.
|The tetrarch, [[Herod Antipas]], heard news of this, as word of Jesus had spread fast and far. It was said that he was [[John the Baptist]] had risen from the dead, and miraculous powers were shown in his works.
|The impersonal construction is present in the best manuscripts. Why the Byzantine manuscripts use "He said" rather than "it was said" is unclear.
|-
|15
|Others said, That it is Elias. And others said, That it is a prophet, or as one of the prophets.
|Others rumored that he was [[Elijah]], while others still called him a [[prophet]] like those of the [[Old Testament]].
|"The prophets" was known to the audience of the time as the OT prophets, but this should be made clear to the modern reader.
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|16
|But when Herod heard thereof, he said, It is John, whom I beheaded: he is risen from the dead.
|Herod succumbed to the rumors and opined, "He is John, who I had murdered, back from the dead."
|
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|17
|For Herod himself had sent forth and laid hold upon John, and bound him in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife: for he had married her.
|For it had been Herod who had sent his men to capture and imprison John on account of his brother Philip's wife, Herodias, who he had married.
|
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|18
|For John had said unto Herod, It is not lawful for thee to have thy brother's wife.
|John used to tel Herod, "It is against the law for you to marry your brother's wife."
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|19
|Therefore Herodias had a quarrel against him, and would have killed him; but she could not:
|And so Herodias was hostile to John, and she would have killed him had she been able.
|
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|20
|For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.
|Herod actually was afraid of John, realizing that he was a just and holy man, and followed John's preaching closely. Herod couldn't always understand what John said, but he was glad to listen.
|The better manuscripts are necessary to clarify the meaning.
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|21
|And when a convenient day was come, that Herod on his birthday made a supper to his lords, high captains, and chief estates of Galilee;
|So Herodias waited for her opportunity, which came on Herod's birthday when he had a feast for his noblemen, ranking army officers, and high-ranking officials in Galilee.
|The Greek word '''χιλιαρχος''' (''chiliarchos'') means literally "leader of a thousand," therefore a Roman tribune or officer of similar rank in another army.
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|22
|And when the daughter of the said Herodias came in, and danced, and pleased Herod and them that sat with him, the king said unto the damsel, Ask of me whatsoever thou wilt, and I will give it thee.
|Herodias's daughter entered the room and danced, so pleasing Herod and his guests that the king exclaimed to the little girl, "Ask me whatever you like, and I will grant it!"
|The Greek '''κορασιον''' is typically translated simply as "girl" or "damsel",<ref>See talk page.</ref> and in fact means a girl who is not even a teen-ager.<ref>Definition of '''κορασιον''' in the Oxford Pocket Greek-English Dictionary</ref> The spectacle of a pre-adolescent girl dancing lewdly in front of a bunch of leering adult men ought to convince anyone of the immoral overtones of this scene.
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|23
|And he sware unto her, Whatsoever thou shalt ask of me, I will give it thee, unto the half of my kingdom.
|And he swore to her, "I will give you whatever you want from me, up to half of my kingdom."
|
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|24
|And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist.
|She went to ask her mother, "What should I ask for?" Her mother replied, "The head of John the Baptist."
|The use of quotes makes the phrase easier to understand.
|-
|25
|And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist.
|So she returned quickly to the tetrarch and responded, "I want John the Baptist's head on a platter."
|Herod Antipas' title was, of course, Tetrarch of Galilee. The Greek word rendered "charger" is actually a large platter.
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|26
|And the king was exceeding sorry; yet for his oath's sake, and for their sakes which sat with him, he would not reject her.
|Herod was very sorry. But because he had taken an oath and faced embarrassment in front of his guests if he declined, he complied.
|
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|27
|And immediately the king sent an executioner, and commanded his head to be brought: and he went and beheaded him in the prison,
|The king immediately sent an executioner, ordering him to bring John the Baptist's head. The executioner went to the prison and beheaded him.
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|28
|And brought his head in a charger, and gave it to the damsel: and the damsel gave it to her mother.
|The executioner brought the head on a platter and gave it to the little girl, who gave it to her mother.
|See notes to verse 22 above.
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|29
|And when his disciples heard of it, they came and took up his corpse, and laid it in a tomb.
|When John's students heard what had happened, they came and claimed his body and placed it in a tomb.
|
|-
|30
|And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
|The Apostles gathered around Jesus and told him about all the things they had done and what they had taught.
|
|-
|31
|And he said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
|Jesus told them, "Come with me privately to a desert place and rest". Because there were so many people coming and going, the apostles had not even had time to eat.
|The land was "desert" all around, but the use of "desert place" becomes appropriate in view of what happens next.
|-
|32
|And they departed into a desert place by ship privately.
|They sailed in a boat to a desert place to meet in private.
|
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|33
|And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
|When people saw them leaving, many of them recognized Jesus, so they hurried from their cities and got there before Jesus and the apostles did. The people crowded around Jesus when he arrived.
|
|-
|34
|And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.
|When Jesus got out of the boat He saw the large crowd of people, and felt sorry for them, because they reminded Him of a flock of sheep without a shepherd. So He started to teach them many things.
|
|-
|35
|And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
|But when the day was nearly over, His students approached Jesus and said, "We're in the middle of nowhere and it is going to get dark.
|quotation continues to next verse; it must have been "getting dark" yet so the phrasing is this way
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|36
|Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
|"Send this crowd into the surrounding villages in order to buy themselves bread to eat."
|
|-
|37
|He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
|Jesus replied "You should give them something to eat," and the students asked Him, "Should we go and spend two hundred shillings and buy some bread for them to eat?"
|The "shilling" is the Roman ''denarius'', which in fact was a day's wages for most men in the period.
|-
|38
|He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
|Jesus answered, "How many loaves do you have? Go check." After the students found out, they told him that they had five loaves of bread and two fish.
|
|-
|39
|And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
|Jesus told them to have everyone sit in groups on the grass.
|
|-
|40
|And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
|After they did, everyone sat down in long rows, of fifty or a hundred people.
|
|-
|41
|And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.
|When Jesus had the five loaves and two fish, he looked to heaven, blessed the food, and broke the loaves. He gave them to His students to feed the people, and split the two fish among everyone.
|
|-
|42
|And they did all eat, and were filled.
|After everyone was finished eating, they were all full.
|
|-
|43
|And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
|The students picked up twelve small baskets full of crumbs and the leftovers of fish.
|
|-
|44
|And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
|Five thousand men had filled their stomachs on those two loaves of bread and five fish.
|
|-
|45
|And straightway he constrained his disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side before unto Bethsaida, while he sent away the people.
|Then Jesus had his students board their boat, to go to Bethsaida ahead of him, while he bid the people farewell.
|
|-
|46
|And when he had sent them away, he departed into a mountain to pray.
|After he sent the people away, he went to a mountain to pray.
|
|-
|47
|And when even was come, the ship was in the midst of the sea, and he alone on the land.
|In the evening, the students' boat was in the middle of the lake, and he remained on the land alone.
|
|-
|48
|And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.
|He saw them rowing hard, since they were traveling into the wind: about the fourth watch of the night, he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, nearly passing it.
|"Fourth watch of the night" means between 3 AM and 6 AM.<ref>http://chestofbooks.com/reference/Facts-For-Everybody/Roman-Division-Of-Time.html</ref>
|-
|49
|But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:
|But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been a ghost, and cried out.
|
|-
|50
|For they all saw him, and were troubled. And immediately he talked with them, and saith unto them, Be of good cheer: it is I; be not afraid.
|They all saw Him, and were terrified. He spoke to them right away, and said, "Fear not, for I am. Do not be afraid."
|The "I am" is what the Greek says, and it mirrors Exodus 3:14 (God speaking from the burning bush) and John 8:58 (affirming Jesus's divinity).
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|51
|And he went up unto them into the ship; and the wind ceased: and they were sore amazed in themselves beyond measure, and wondered.
|He boarded the ship and the wind died down: they were very much amazed.
|The best manuscripts do not have the additional Greek word '''θαυμαζω'''.
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|52
|For they considered not the miracle of the loaves: for their heart was hardened.
|They had not understood the miracle of the loaves, because they had not opened their minds.
|The literal Greek phrase reads, "their heart was stubborn." The implication is simply that they were not yet ready to believe what they had seen.
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|53
|And when they had passed over, they came into the land of Gennesaret, and drew to the shore.
|After they crossed the lake, they came to the land of Gennesaret and pulled up to the shore.
|
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|54
|And when they were come out of the ship, straightway they knew him,
|When they had come off the boat, everyone immediately recognized Jesus.
|
|-
|55
|And ran through that whole region round about, and began to carry about in beds those that were sick, where they heard he was.
|They ran throughout the nearby area and carried all the sick people, in beds, to the place where Jesus was said to be.
|
|-
|56
|And whithersoever he entered, into villages, or cities, or country, they laid the sick in the streets, and besought him that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment: and as many as touched him were made whole.
|Wherever he went - villages, cities, or the countryside - people laid the sick in the streets, and begged Jesus to let them touch him, even just the edge of his coat. Everyone who touched him was healed.
|
|}

==Chapter 7==

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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
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|1
|Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
|Jesus was approached by the Pharisees, and some of the scribes, who came from [[Jerusalem]].
|"who" rather than "which"; a rare flaw in the style of the [[KJV]] is its use of "which" and "that" to refer to persons
|-
|2
|And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
|They observed several of His students eating bread with ritually unclean, i.e., unwashed, hands, and used that to criticize Jesus.
|The Greek word used is '''κοινος''' (''koinos''), meaning "common." In fact the Pharisees suggested that hands that had not been ceremonially washed were ritually unclean, and chose an elitist metaphor ("common") to make their point.
|-
|3
|For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
|The reason for this was that the Pharisees, along with all the other Jews, had a tradition never to eat unless they had washed their hands.
|
|-
|4
|And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
|When they came from the public square, they did not eat unless they had washed first. They retained many other traditions, such as the washing of cups, pots, kettles, and tables.
|This is a small sample of the many ways in which the Pharisees sought to over-regulate and micro-manage Jewish life.
|-
|5
|Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
|Then the Pharisees and the scribes asked Jesus, "Why don't your students follow the traditions of the elders, instead of eating bread with unwashed hands?"
|Again, the Pharisees use tradition as regulation, a regulation to which they give the force of written law.
|-
|6
|He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
|He responded to them, "[[Isaiah]] had you hypocrites dead to rights, when he wrote: 'These people speak respectful words to Me, by their hearts are not with Me.
|
|-
|7
|Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
|They worship Me in vain, and their teachings are nothing more than rules made by men.'
|
|-
|8
|For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
|After turning away from the law of God, you cling to the rules of mere men.
|The Byzantine manuscripts add the details about the cup and pot-washing regulations, but those are probably redundant interpolations.
|-
|9
|And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
|Isaiah also told them, 'You turn your backs on the commandment of God, in order to cling to your own customs.'
|Clarify the reference to Isaiah, which is ambiguous in most translations.
|-
|10
|For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
|For example: Moses said, 'Honor your father and mother; and whoever curses his father or mother should receive the death penalty';
|should outer quotations be added? Use the "death penalty"
|-
|11
|But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
|But you allow a man to say to his father or mother, 'Whatever help I might have given you was instead given to God as a temple offering,'
|difficult to translate; more improvement welcome; issue of outside quotations remains; Corban replaced by "temple offering"
|-
|12
|And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
|and excused him from helping his father or mother any further.
|The Greek phrase means "permit not to do" rather than "not permit to do." Thus, "excuse" is correct.
|-
|13
|Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
|"You have made God's word and law useless with your tradition of revision, and many other actions like it."
|
|-
|14
|And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
|When Jesus had called the people together around him, he said, "Listen to me, each of you, and know the truth."
|
|-
|15
|There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
|"Nothing outside a man can enter him and corrupt him. Instead, that which comes from within can corrupt him."
|Interesting as this is also a doctrine in Plato (see the apology). Was he inspired by God, or perhaps did Jesus know earlier doctrines?
|-
|16
|If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
|"So if anyone wishes to know the truth, let him listen."
|"ears to hear" denotes the open minded listener
|-
|17
|And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
|Afterward, when he had left the people and entered the house, His students asked Him about the parable.
|
|-
|18
|And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
|To this he responded, "Are you also so ignorant? Don't you see that anything which enters a man from outside cannot corrupt him,"
|
|-
|19
|Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
|"Because it enters his stomach, not his heart, and then is eliminated?"
|Literally, "gets thrown down the toilet."
|-
|20
|And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
|To this he added, "Anything that comes out of a man, it is that which corrupts him."
|
|-
|21
|For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
|"Because, from inside of the heart come evil thoughts, adultery, fornication, murder,"
|
|-
|22
|Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
|"theft, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lustfulness, an evil eye, blasphemy, uncontrolled pride, and foolishness."
|
|-
|23
|All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
|"All of these wicked things come from inside a man and corrupt him."
|
|-
|24
|And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid.
|Then He left that place, and traveled to the borders of [[Tyre]] and [[Sidon]]. He wanted to keep the place where He was staying a secret, but He had become so well-known that this was impossible.
|The Greek verb '''θελω''' (''thelo'') means "I want to do something." The "I will" construct is obsolete.
|-
|25
|For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
|A woman whose daughter had been possessed by a demon heard the news of Him, came to Him and fell down before Him.
|
|-
|26
|The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
|She was Greek, a Syrophenician, and begged that he would throw the demon out of her daughter.
|
|-
|27
|But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
|Jesus replied to her, "The children must first be fed, for it is wrong to take their bread and cast it among the dogs."
|Especially since [[dog]]s were scavengers in those days, at least in that region, because they were chthonic or "bad-luck" animals.
|-
|28
|And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.
|To this she answered, "Yes, Lord, but the dogs under the table can eat the children's crumbs."
|
|-
|29
|And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
|So Jesus replied, "Go on your way; you have proved your faith, and the demon has been cast out of your daughter."
|
|-
|30
|And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.
|When she returned to her home, she found that her daughter was lying upon her bed and Satan had left her.
|
|-
|31
|And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis.
|Leaving the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, Jesus reached Lake Tiberias, among the coasts of Decapolis.
|Sea->lake as per previous instances
|-
|32
|And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him.
|The people brought him a deaf man with a speech impediment, praying that he would lay hands upon him.
|Some deaf people do try to speak, but because they cannot hear themselves talk, their speech is sometimes difficult for a hearing person to understand.
|-
|33
|And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;
|Jesus took him away privately from the crowd. He put his fingers into the man's ears, spit, then touched his tongue.
|
|-
|34
|And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened.
|Looking up to heaven, he sighed and said, "Ephphatha," which means "be opened."
|
|-
|35
|And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain.
|The man's ears were immediately opened, and the muscles of his tongue healed, letting him speak clearly and understandably.
|
|-
|36
|And he charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it;
|Jesus ordered the people not to tell this story, but the more he ordered this, the more they spread the news.
|
|-
|37
|And were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well: he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak.
|They were completely blown away, and said, "He has wielded great power in all things. He makes the deaf hear and the dumb speak."
|"Done all things well" has lost its emphatic meaning
|}

==Chapter 8==

{| class="wikitable"
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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
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|1
|In those days the multitude being very great, and having nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples unto him, and saith unto them,
|The crowd that followed Jesus was enormous and had little to eat, so Jesus gathered His students and said,
|
|-
|2
|I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
|"I have great love and empathy for the people, who have been following Me for three days and now have nothing to eat."
|
|-
|3
|And if I send them away fasting to their own houses, they will faint by the way: for divers of them came from far.
|I am responsible for them, for if I send them away to their homes, they will collapse along the way, as many of them have come a great distance."
|Making the sentiment of responsibility clear.
|-
|4
|And his disciples answered him, From whence can a man satisfy these men with bread here in the wilderness?
|The students responded, "How can we feed these people bread out in the desert where food is scarce?"
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|5
|And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven.
|Jesus asked them, "how many loaves do you have?" They replied, "seven."
|
|-
|6
|And he commanded the people to sit down on the ground: and he took the seven loaves, and gave thanks, and brake, and gave to his disciples to set before them; and they did set them before the people.
|So he told the crowd to sit down, and taking the seven loaves and giving thanks unto God, he broke them and gave them to His students to distribute, and they did.
|
|-
|7
|And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before them.
|They also had a few small fish, which he also blessed and had distributed.
|Plural "fishes" antiquated
|-
|8
|So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets.
|The people ate and were filled, and the students found that a surplus of seven large baskets of meat remained.
|The basket used at this feeding of the second multitude was larger than the one used at the first.
|-
|9
|And they that had eaten were about four thousand: and he sent them away.
|Four thousand people had eaten, and Jesus sent them on their way.
|
|-
|10
|And straightway he entered into a ship with his disciples, and came into the parts of Dalmanutha.
|Jesus went into a boat with the students and traveled into Dalmanutha.
|
|-
|11
|And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him.
|The Pharisees came to Him and began to try to test Him with their questions, demanding a sign from heaven.
|
|-
|12
|And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
|In his soul he sighed deeply at their lack of faith, and he replied, "Why does this generation want a sign? I'll tell you the truth: you will not be given a sign."
|
|-
|13
|And he left them, and entering into the ship again departed to the other side.
|So he left them, returned to the boat and traveled across the lake.
|
|-
|14
|Now the disciples had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf.
|The students had neglected to bring bread on board, and had not so much as one loaf aboard.
|
|-
|15
|And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
|And Jesus warned them, "I caution you, beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and the yeast of Herod."
|"Yeast" is the modern translation of the Greek word '''ζυμης''' (''zymes'', whence "enzyme").
|-
|16
|And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no bread.
|They discussed this among themselves and decided, "He says this because we didn't bring bread."
|
|-
|17
|And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?
|And Jesus knew this and said, "Why do you think this is about bread? Do you still not perceive or understand the message? Have your minds been closed?"
|The "heart" in ancient culture was much more connected with reason, thought, and the mind than in present culture. The Greek idiom refers to stubborn refusal to believe, not deliberate rebellion.
|-
|18
|Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?
|"You have eyes and ears, but do you see, hear, or even remember?"
|
|-
|19
|When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.
|"When I distributed the five loaves among five thousand people, how many small baskets of remainders did you collect?" "Twelve."
|
|-
|20
|And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.
|"And of the seven loaves given to the four thousand, how many large baskets remained?" "Seven."
|
|-
|21
|And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
|"Why do you still not understand?"
|
|-
|22
|And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.
|Jesus arrived at Bethsaida, where people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
|
|-
|23
|And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
|Jesus took the hand of the blind man, and led him outside the village; Jesus spit on the man's eyes, and laid His hands upon him, asking if he could see.
|
|-
|24
|And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
|The man looked up and declared, "I only see men that look like walking trees."
|The truth of this description of the initial perception of a blind man who suddenly sees was only confirmed nearly 2000 years later by modern ophthalmologists.
|-
|25
|After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.
|Jesus put His hands on the blind man's eyes again, and then told him to look up. The man's sight was restored, so that he could see every man around him clearly.
|Modernizing language.
|-
|26
|And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.
|Jesus sent him home and told him, "Do not enter the village or tell anyone there about this."
|The "or tell anyone there about this" is missing from some ancient manuscripts, but it is consistent with Jesus's concern.
|-
|27
|And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
|Jesus and the students then went to the towns around Caesarea Philippi, and while walking He asked them, "Whom do men say that I am?"
|avoid emasculation of "men" as "people" or other gender neutral term
|-
|28
|And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
|The students replied, "'[[John the Baptist]].' But some say '[[Elijah]]', and others say, 'One of the [[prophets]].'"
|
|-
|29
|And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
|And He asked, "Who do you say I am?" to which Peter answered, "you are Christ."
|
|-
|30
|And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
|And He told them not to tell anyone about his true nature.
|
|-
|31
|And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
|He taught them of things that must pass, that the Son of Man would suffer great trials, be rejected by the elders, the leading priests, and the scribes, and would be killed, only to rise again to life in three days time.
|
|-
|32
|And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
|He said this openly, but Peter took him aside and began to protest.
|
|-
|33
|But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
|But Jesus turned and, looking at His students, rebuffed Peter. "Begone, Satan. You aren't thinking about Godly things, but the things of men."
|
|-
|34
|And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
|Then calling the people to Himself and the students, Jesus said, "Anyone who wants to follow Me must lay aside all thought for himself, pick up his cross, and follow Me.
|An expression of total commitment, no turning back, and being pepared to die if necessary.
|-
|35
|For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
|For he who seeks to save his life will lose it, while anyone persecuted to death for the sake of myself and the gospels will be saved.
|
|-
|36
|For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
|For what good is it for a man to win the whole world if he condemns his soul?
|
|-
|37
|Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
|Or What will a man pay in exchange for his soul?
|
|-
|38
|Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
|If anyone is ashamed of Me or My teaching to this adulterous, sinful generation, I, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when I return with the glory of My Father and His Holy Messengers."
|The word '''αγγελος''' (''angelos'') means "messenger" and described what the [[angel]]s were.
|}

[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)]]

== References ==

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Mark 1-8 (Translated)

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Cockcroft and Walton Experiment

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This '''experiment''' by [[John Cockcroft]] and [[Ernest Walton]] is claimed by some physicists as demonstrating that ''[[E=mc2|E=mc2]]''.<ref>[http://cerncourier.com/cws/article/cern/31864 Mike Poole ''Cockcroft's subatomic legacy: splitting the atom''], Cern Courier, Nov 20, 2007</ref>

Conducted in April 1932 at the [[University of Cambridge]]'s [[Cavendish Laboratory]] in England, the physicists Cockroft and Walton successfully split [[lithium]] atom [[nucleus|nuclei]] by colliding them with artificially accelerated protons. This experiment is general hailed as being the first [[transmutation]] of an element using artificially accelerated particles, for which they were honored with the [[Nobel Prize]] in 1951<ref>[http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1951/ ''The Nobel Prize in Physics 1951''], Nobelprize.org, 23 Jan 2013</ref>.

Critics maintain that such verification is impossible due to the utter lack of any logical justification for that science fiction formula.

Since the experiment showed that mass could be converted directly into energy through [[nuclear transmutation]] it is generally seen as being an impressive verification of [[Albert Einstein]]'s famous ''[[E=mc2|E=mc2]]'' formula<ref>[http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/emc1.htm The Center for History of Physics: ''Einstein: Image and Impact], © 1996-2004 - American Institute of Physics</ref><ref>[http://homepage.eircom.net/~louiseboylan/Pages/Cockroft_walton.htm Louise Boylan:] ''Cockroft and Walton Experiment: Converting Mass into Energy''</ref>.

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Mark 1-8 (Translated)

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DouglasA: Is there a reason to capitalize Saw?

==Chapter 1==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
|The beginning of the good news of Jesus Christ, the Son of God:
|The Greek word '''ευαγγελιον''' or ''evangelion'' means literally "a good message." "Gospel" is an Old English word meaning "a good story." Today the best phrase is "good news."
|-
|2
|As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
|As was written by [[Isaiah]] the prophet: "Behold, I am sending My messenger before your face, who will prepare your way.
|The best manuscripts do in fact mention Isaiah directly.
|-
|3
|The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
|The voice of a messenger preaching among skeptics, 'Prepare for the way of the Lord and make straight His path.'"
|The wilderness is a metaphor for the unrepentant crowd. Why would he cry out in the wilderness, where none would hear? Too often taken as literal.
|-
|4
|John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
|As it happened, John was baptizing in the desert, preaching repentance and the forgiveness of sins.
|The Greek verb '''βαπτιζω''' or ''baptidzo'' means literally "I give someone a bath." The bath is a total-immersion bath.
|-
|5
|And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.
|Everyone from the country of [[Judea]] and [[Jerusalem]] went to him, confessing their sins and receiving baptism in the Jordan River.
|
|-
|6
|And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;
|John survived on bare necessities, wearing a camel's hair habit with a leather loin wrap; his food consisted of locusts and wild [[honey]];
|
|-
|7
|And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
|He preached to the crowd, "There will be someone so much greater that I am not even fit to stoop and untie his sandal straps for him."
|
|-
|8
|I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
|"I have baptized you with water, but He shall baptize you with the Divine Guide."
|tentatively using "Divine Guide" per talk page. "With the power of the" does not appear.
|-
|9
|And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
|Jesus then came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan River.
|
|-
|10
|And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
|And as soon as Jesus emerged from the water, the heavens opened and the Divine Guide descended like a dove upon Him:
|See 8.
|-
|11
|And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
|A voice came from heaven declaring, "You are my beloved Son whom I value greatly."
|Saying you 'love' a 'beloved' person may be poor english.
|-
|12
|And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
|The Divine Guide then led Jesus into the desert.
|it was more a desert than a wilderness. See 8 re. Guide.
|-
|13
|And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
|He remained in the desert for forty days, where Satan tested Him; and He was with wild animals as the angels waited on Him.
|The Greek '''πειραζω''' or ''peiradzo'' means "I test." This "testing" is like an engineer's test. Matthew and Luke give far greater detail of Jesus's Final Examination.
|-
|14
|Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.
|Next, after John was arrested, Jesus arrived in Galilee and preached the good news of the kingdom of God,
|Consistency with verse 1
|-
|15
|And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
|He said, "The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand. Change your hearts and believe the good news."
|Gospel (good news) is a literal translation of the Greek word '''ευαγγελιον'''.
|-
|16
|Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
|As He was walking by the Sea of Galilee, He saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen,
|The "Sea of Galilee" is today known as Lake Tiberias.
|-
|17
|And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
|And Jesus said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men."
|
|-
|18
|And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.
|Dropping their nets at once, they followed him.
|straightway and forsook are largely unused. The word rendered "forsake" actually means to abandon or, in this case, to set aside.
|-
|19
|And when he had gone a little further thence, he saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the ship mending their nets.
|When He had traveled a little further, He saw James, the son of Zebedee, and John, his brother, who were also in their boat, mending their nets.
|The Greek word '''πλοιον''' or ''ploion'' means any sailing vessel of any size. The vessels of Lake Tiberias were never of a size that deserves the designation of "ship" in modern English. Vessels of that size sailed the Mediterranean Sea, not the Sea of Galilee.

The use of the definite article with ''ploion'' means that the two brothers were on a particular boat. This is most likely the boat that their father owned; hence the possessive pronoun.
|-
|20
|And straightway he called them: and they left their father Zebedee in the ship with the hired servants, and went after him.
|He called to them, and they left their father Zebedee and his crew aboard the boat, and went with Jesus.
|The Greek word '''μισθωτος''' or ''misthotos'' means one who works for hire; in this case a "hand," or member of a boat's crew.
|-
|21
|And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
|They went into Capernaum and as soon as He arrived He entered the synagogue on the holy day to teach.
|'Holy day' rather than sabbath? - modern terminology
|-
|22
|And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
|There, the listeners were astonished by his doctrine, for He taught as a man of great authority, not as a scribe.
|"They" is a needlessly vague term for the audience
|-
|23
|And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
|A man with an evil spirit was in the synagogue.
|The Greek '''πνευμα ακαθαρτης''' or ''pneuma akathartis'' means literally "unclean spirit." This refers to a spirit being having no relationship to God, i.e., a demon.
|-
|24
|Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
|He shouted, "Leave us alone, Jesus of Nazareth, for we're none of your business. Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God."
|The idiomatic phrase "what have I to do with you" or "what have we to do with you" is best expressed in modern English as "Mind your own business" or a similar phrase.
|-
|25
|And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
|Jesus then scolded the spirit, and said, "Stop moaning and pull out of him."
|Satan rarely possesses a man by himself; he sends his minions, called demons to do that "dirty work" for him.
|-
|26
|And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.
|The evil spirit was then ripped away from the possessed man, cried out in a loud voice, and left him.
|Passive rather than active to indicate Jesus' role?
|-
|27
|And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.
|The bystanders were all amazed, and asked each other, "What is happening? Is this a new doctrine? He acted with authority in ordering the evil spirits, and they obeyed him!"
|
|-
|28
|And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee.
|The news about Jesus spread immediately throughout Galilee.
|
|-
|29
|And forthwith, when they were come out of the synagogue, they entered into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
|As soon as Jesus's group left the synagogue, they entered the home of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
|
|-
|30
|But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
|But Simon's mother-in-law was in bed sick with a fever, and Jesus was told.
|
|-
|31
|And he came and took her by the hand, and lifted her up; and immediately the fever left her, and she ministered unto them.
|So he came and, taking her by her hand, helped her stand up; and when she did the fever immediately passed, and she waited on the others.
|
|-
|32
|And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils.
|At sundown the people brought to Jesus many sick people, and many demon-oppressed people,
|
|-
|33
|And all the city was gathered together at the door.
|And all the city's people gathered at His door.
|
|-
|34
|And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.
|Jesus healed many who were diseased, and He threw out many demons; he commanded the demons to be silent, and they obeyed because they knew Jesus as God.
|"Threw out many demons" sounds a bit strange. "Drove out" may be a better rendering of Greek εξεβαλεν.
|-
|35
|And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.
|In the early morning, long before dawn, He left to pray by himself.
|
|-
|36
|And Simon and they that were with him followed after him.
|Simon and the others followed Him,
|
|-
|37
|And when they had found him, they said unto him, All men seek for thee.
|And upon finding him they said, "Everyone is looking for You."
|Seems a bit awkward
|-
|38
|And he said unto them, Let us go into the next towns, that I may preach there also: for therefore came I forth.
|Jesus replied, "Let us travel to the other towns, so I may preach in them too, for that is the reason I came."
|
|-
|39
|And he preached in their synagogues throughout all Galilee, and cast out devils.
|And he preached in the synagogues and threw out demons throughout Galilee.
|
|-
|40
|And there came a leper to him, beseeching him, and kneeling down to him, and saying unto him, If thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
|A leper came to him, kneeling and imploring him, saying, "If you wish it, please cure my illness."
|"Make clean" replaced with the modern concept "cure." Does this change/mask the meaning?
|-
|41
|And Jesus, moved with compassion, put forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, I will; be thou clean.
|Jesus was moved by compassion, and putting out his hand to touch him, replied, "I will. Be cured."
|See 40.
|-
|42
|And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed.
|Immediately after Jesus had spoken, the leprosy departed the man, and he was cured.
|See 40.
|-
|43
|And he straitly charged him, and forthwith sent him away;
|Jesus gave him strict orders to leave at once;
|
|-
|44
|And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
|And said to him, "Tell no one, but be on your way and show yourself to the priest, offering in thanks for your healing what Moses commanded. This will serve as testimony to others."
|
|-
|45
|But he went out, and began to publish it much, and to blaze abroad the matter, insomuch that Jesus could no more openly enter into the city, but was without in desert places: and they came to him from every quarter.
|But the cured man immediately announced to all what had happened, and the publicity made it impossible for Jesus to enter any city openly. He withdrew to the desert, but the people still came to him from everywhere.
|
|}

==Chapter 2==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And again he entered into Capernaum, after some days; and it was noised that he was in the house.
|He returned to Capernaum after several days, and the news spread that He was at home.
|The Greek literally reads "it was heard that he was in house."
|-
|2
|And straightway many were gathered together, insomuch that there was no room to receive them, no, not so much as about the door: and he preached the word unto them.
|A large crowd immediately filled the room to capacity, so many that the door was blocked to access by others, as He was speaking the Truth to them.
|
|-
|3
|And they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was borne of four.
|They brought him a paralyzed man, carried by four men.
|
|-
|4
|And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay.
|Finding they could not reach Him, because the crowd was so thick, they removed the roof above Him and, when they had done so, lowered the paralytic in his bed.
|
|-
|5
|When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
|Seeing their faith in Him, He told the paralyzed man, "Son, your sins are forgiven."
|
|-
|6
|But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
|Some scribes were sitting in the crowd. They thought to themselves,
|
|-
|7
|Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
|"Why is this Man speaking such blasphemy? Who can forgive our sins but God Himself?"
|Capitalized on account of Who He is, not on account of what the scribes thought He was.

A ''scribe'' was one having the specific job of copying out the Jewish Scriptures (the [[Old Testament]]) from old copies that were falling apart. Scribes also commonly taught the Scriptures in the synagogues. The problem was that they taught from rote memory, and the clear implication, here and elsewhere, is that these scribes memorized the text as if for recital but never really read it for understanding, much less personal lifestyle application.
|-
|8
|And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
|Jesus immediately perceived in His spirit what they were thinking, and he asked them, "Why are you so hostile to this?
|the hostility was to the forgiveness
|-
|9
|Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?
|"Is it easier to tell a paralyzed man that his sins are forgiven, or to pick up his bed and walk?
|
|-
|10
|But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
|"But to remove any doubt about the Son of man's power on earth to forgive sins," he next said to the paralyzed man,
|
|-
|11
|I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.
|"Get up, carry your bed, and go home!"
|
|-
|12
|And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.
|And he got up, carried his bed, and left, in plain sight of the crowd. Amazed, they all praised God, saying, "We've never seen such a thing before."
|The Greek idiom is very close to this.
|-
|13
|And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them.
|Jesus continued along the seaside, and all the crowds thronged around Him, and He taught them.
|
|-
|14
|And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
|He passed Levi, son of Alphaeus, at a tax office and told him, "Follow me." Levi arose and followed.
|Some manuscripts give this man's name as "James."
|-
|15
|And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
|As it happened, Jesus then dined at His house with a great many tax collectors and sinners who chose to follow Him.
|The English word ''publican'' is not from the Greek. It is the [[Latin]] word ''publicanus'', meaning a private citizen commissioned to collect taxes for the Roman government and empowered to collect more than the tax from the people and keep the balance. This policy was controversial even in Rome itself, and especially in Judea Province, where tax collectors were regarded as the lowest form of scum in Jewish society.
|-
|16
|And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
|Seeing him eating with the tax collectors and sinners, the Pharisees and scribes demanded of His students, "Why does he eat and drink with these tax collectors and sinners?"
|
|-
|17
|When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
|Hearing this, Jesus replied, "It is not the healthy but the sick that need a doctor. I did not come to call the just to change their hearts, but instead the sinners."
|
|-
|18
|And the disciples of John and of the Pharisees used to fast: and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not?
|The students of John and of the Pharisees used to fast. And so they came and asked Him, "Why do the students of John and of the Pharisees fast, but Your students do not?"
|
|-
|19
|And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.
|To this Jesus replied, "Why should the members of the wedding party fast, so long as the bridegroom is among them? While he remains, they have no cause to fast."
|"Cannot" implies impossibility, rather than lack of necessity. They have no cause to fast so long as the Son is with them.
|-
|20
|But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
|"Soon it will be that the bridegroom will be taken from them, and only then will they fast."
|
|-
|21
|No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse.
|"No man patches old clothing with a new piece of cloth, as it will pull apart as it ages, making the tear worse.
|
|-
|22
|And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.
|"And no man puts fresh grape juice into old bottles. The fresh juice will burst the bottles, spilling the juice and damaging the bottles. Fresh juice must be put into new bottles."
|The Greek word '''οινος''', translated "wine," actually meant "fruit of the vine" and was not fermented, as it commonly is today. Repeated references in the Book of Proverbs tell their readers specifically to avoid fermented grape juice. Furthermore, at least five methods of preservation were known to the ancients, methods that avoided fermentation, long before [[Louis Pasteur]] would invent his pressure-cooking method.
|-
|23
|And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
|On one Sabbath day, He traveled through the corn fields, and His students started to pluck the ears of corn as they passed.
|
|-
|24
|And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
|The Pharisees cried, "Look! You're breaking Sabbath regulations!"
|The Pharisees were notorious for promulgating regulations about proper religious living. Half of those regulations weren't even in Scripture. The extensive body of regulations that they invented, on the theory of what constituted "working on the Sabbath," was a prize example.
|-
|25
|And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
|To this Jesus replied, "Haven't you read what David and his allies did, when he was hungry and in need?"
|
|-
|26
|How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
|"How he went into God's temple, in the times of the [[High Priest]] [[Abiathar]], and ate the blessed bread - the bread which only priests are allowed to eat - and fed his allies with it?"
|Actually, the high priest at the time was Abiathar's father [[Ahimelech I]]. But Abiathar was present when this incident occurred, and continued to follow David after Ahimelech was assassinated.
|-
|27
|And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
|Jesus told them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath,
|clarifies role of Sabbath, against slavish observation to the point of hurting man.
|-
|28
|Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
|and therefore the Son of man is also Lord of the Sabbath."
|
|}

==Chapter 3==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.
|Jesus returned to the synagogue, and noticed man with a crippled hand.
|
|-
|2
|And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.
|They were watching Jesus to see if they might catch and accuse him of healing on the Sabbath.
|Presumably "they" are the [[Pharisees]]. See talk.
|-
|3
|And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth.
|Jesus told the man with the crippled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."
|
|-
|4
|And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
|Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: doing good or evil? Saving a life, or killing one?" And they didn't answer.
|
|-
|5
|And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
|Jesus looked around at them, feeling anger and pity for the hardness of their hearts, and said to the injured man, "Open your hand." He then opened and held out his hand, and it was as good as new.
|
|-
|6
|And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.
|The Pharisees then fled from the scene to plot with the Herodians against Jesus, and plan how they might destroy him.
|The Herodians were a sect among the Jews who were political partisans of [[Herod Antipas]]. Normally the Pharisees had nothing to do with this faction. In this, as in many other contexts, "[[politics]] makes strange bedfellows."
|-
|7
|But Jesus withdrew himself with his disciples to the sea: and a great multitude from Galilee followed him, and from Judaea,
|Jesus then departed for the quiet of a lake, but crowds from Galilee and [[Judea]] followed him,
|The body of water called the "Sea of Galilee" in the Greek is called Lake Tiberias today and was and is in fact a fresh-water lake, not an extension of the [[ocean]] system that a true "sea" would be.
|-
|8
|And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him.
|And crowds went to Jesus from [[Jerusalem]], [[Idumea]], [[Tyre]] and [[Sidon]], and from beyond the Jordan River, after hearing of his great deeds for the sick.
|modernize spelling: Idumaea -> Idumea
|-
|9
|And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should throng him.
|Jesus asked His students for a small boat that would enable him to keep a distance from pressing crowds.
|
|-
|10
|For he had healed many; insomuch that they pressed upon him for to touch him, as many as had plagues.
|Jesus had healed many people, so that many diseased persons pressed on Him trying to touch Him.
|The word used here for "disease" is actually the Greek word '''μαστιξ''' or ''mastix'', literally a whip or the beating one might receive from a whip. This is obviously a violent metaphor that Mark used for illness.
|-
|11
|And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
|Upon seeing Jesus, evil spirits fell down before him crying, "You are the Son of God!"
|need to add something to convey that these spirits possessed people
|-
|12
|And he straitly charged them that they should not make him known.
|But Jesus strictly commanded them not to tell others who he was.
|
|-
|13
|And he goeth up into a mountain, and calleth unto him whom he would: and they came unto him.
|He then walked up a mountain, calling whomever He wanted to follow him, and they did.
|
|-
|14
|And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,
|He appointed twelve men as Apostles, to be with him, so he could send them to preach to the world,
|Some manuscripts, including the Byzantine, don't have the phrase "to be apostles." ''Apostle'' literally means "one sent out." These men were the first-ever missionaries.
|-
|15
|And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:
|and to have the authority to throw demons out of people.
|
|-
|16
|And Simon he surnamed Peter;
|Jesus gave the surname of Peter to Simon.
|
|-
|17
|And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:
|He also appointed James and his brother John, the sons of Zebedee, and called them "Boanerges," which means "The Sons of Thunder":
|
|-
|18
|And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
|His other apointees were Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
|This might be the source of the confusion, by a later copyist, of this "James son of Alphaeus" with ''Levi'' son of Alphaeus, the tax collector. The other name of Levi, given here, is ''Matthew''.
|-
|19
|And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house.
|And Judas Iscariot, who was to betray Jesus: and they all entered a house
|note how the [[KJV]] uses "which" for persons, rather than the more respectful "who"; the KJV also uses "an" rather than "a" before a word that begins with "h"
|-
|20
|And the multitude cometh together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread.
|But the crowd pressed upon them so much that they could not even eat.
|
|-
|21
|And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.
|When Jesus's own family heard of this, they went to rescue him, saying, "He is out of his mind."
|note how even Jesus's own family felt less of him
|-
|22
|And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
|Some scribes from Jerusalem came also, smearing Jesus by saying "He has [[Beelzebub]] and throws out demons by calling on the leader of demons!"
|This [[Beelzebub]] (literally, Lord of the Flies) is another name for [[Satan]], but was also a pagan Canaanite god during the time of [[Elijah]].
|-
|23
|And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
|But Jesus called them together and taught in parables, and asked "How can Satan cast out Satan?
|
|-
|24
|And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
|"A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
|
|-
|25
|And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
|"Nor can a house divided against itself stand."
|
|-
|26
|And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
|"So if Satan were divided against himself, he could not stand, and would perish."
|
|-
|27
|No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
|"No one can break into a well-armed man's house to destroy his property, unless he first tie the man down. Only then can he damage his home.
|"Strong" replaced with modern equivalent of defended
|-
|28
|Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
|"I tell you: all the sons of men will be forgiven their sins and their blasphemies, whatever they might be:
|
|-
|29
|But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
|"But any man who blasphemes against the Divine Guide will never be forgiven, but risks eternal damnation."
|
|-
|30
|Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
|This Jesus told them because they lied, "He has an evil spirit."
|
|-
|31
|There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
|His mother and his brothers, who were standing outside, asked to see him.
|
|-
|32
|And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
|The crowd around Jesus said to him, "Your mother and brothers are outside, looking for you."
|Some manuscripts omit the brothers.
|-
|33
|And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
|To which he responded, "Who is My mother, or My brothers?"
|
|-
|34
|And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
|Then, looking around at the gathered crowed, he said, "You are My mother and My brothers!
|
|-
|35
|For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
|"Whoever does what God wants, qualifies as My brother, sister or mother."
|
|}

==Chapter 4==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.
|Jesus returned to teaching again on the seashore, but the crowd was so overwhelming that he turned a boat into a makeshift pulpit while the people pressed to the shoreline.
|The acoustics at many shore sites on Lake Tiberias are in fact good enough to allow this.
|-
|2
|And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
|He taught them many things, using parables. During one of His lessons, He said,
|The Greek '''διδαχη''' or ''didache'' can mean the subject being taught, the act of teaching, or a particular lesson.
|-
|3
|Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
|"Listen. A farmer went out to sow a crop.
|
|-
|4
|And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
|"As he sowed, some seed was scattered on the path, and birds came and ate it up.
|
|-
|5
|And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
|"Some fell on stony ground, which lacked deep soil. It grew quickly,
|
|-
|6
|But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
|"But once the sun was out, it was scorched and withered away, as its roots were too shallow.
|
|-
|7
|And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
|"Some was scattered among weeds, which choked it, and it didn't produce fruit.
|
|-
|8
|And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
|"But some seed fell upon good soil and produced a great deal of fruit, thirty, sixty, even one-hundred times the original investment."
|Clear language of "increase"
|-
|9
|And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
|Then Jesus said to them, "let any man who has ears hear."
|
|-
|10
|And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
|Privately a few along with the twelve Apostles asked Jesus about the parable.
|
|-
|11
|And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
|He said to them, "You have been granted insight into the secrets of the Kingdom of God, but to others these things are done in parables,
|
|-
|12
|That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
|that they may see but not perceive and hear but not understand; otherwise they might convert, and then their sins would be forgiven."
|This verse, and the one preceding, is one of the earliest statements concerning the ''predestination'' and ''unconditional election'' of believers.
|-
|13
|And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
|Then He asked them, "Don't you understand this parable? If not, how will you understand any other parables?
|
|-
|14
|The sower soweth the word.
|"The farmer plants the Truth.
|
|-
|15
|And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
|"As for the people who are on the roadside, where the seeds are scattered, Satan comes as soon they have heard the truth, and takes it from their hearts.
|
|-
|16
|And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
|"Likewise with those planted on the stony ground: when they hear the Truth, they receive It with joy,
|
|-
|17
|And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
|"But they have little deep-down understanding of It, so they endure in the Truth only briefly. Afterward, when they must face oppression persecution for the sake of the Truth, all at once they have doubts about It.
|"Root in themselves" made clearer for modern english readers.
|-
|18
|And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
|"Then there are those planted among the thorns. They hear the word,
|
|-
|19
|And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
|"But because of worldly concerns, the deceit of wealth, and other desires, the Truth is suffocated and cannot bear fruit."
|The "deceit of wealth" is not the having of wealth but the trusting in wealth as a primary sustainer.
|-
|20
|And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
|"Finally are those planted in good ground. They hear the Truth, accept It, and produce good fruit in their turn, sometimes thirty, sixty, or even one hundred times more."
|
|-
|21
|And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?
|Then he asked them, "Do we light candles only to hide them under a bushel basket or a bed, rather than to place them on candlesticks?
|The word rendered "bushel" is the Roman ''modius,'' the largest dry measure in use throughout the Roman Empire.
|-
|22
|For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
|"Nothing is hidden which will not be brought to light. Likewise any secret kept will soon become known.
|
|-
|23
|If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
|"If a man is willing to listen, let him hear the Truth."
|
|-
|24
|And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.
|Then he said to them, "Be careful of what you listen to. Whichever measure you apply, you shall be measured accordingly, and those of you who listen will be given more."
|
|-
|25
|For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.
|"He who has will be given, while he doesn't will see that little which he has taken from him."
|
|-
|26
|And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
|"The kingdom of God is the same way. If someone sows seed on the ground,
|
|-
|27
|And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.
|"And goes to sleep and waits several days, plants will spring from the seeds, though he doesn't know how.
|
|-
|28
|For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.
|"Because it is the earth that brings forth the fruit: first a blade, then an ear of corn, then the corn itself."
|
|-
|29
|But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.
|"And when the fruit has been produced, he brings out the sickle and harvests his produce."
|
|-
|30
|And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?
|Then he said, "What will we say God's kingdom is like? What sort of metaphor will we use?
|Actually the Greek uses the word ''parable'', which is a metaphorical story.
|-
|31
|It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
|It's like a single mustard seed, which is smaller than all other seeds on earth when placed in the ground,
|
|-
|32
|But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.
|But once planted, it grows larger than all the other herbs and grows large branches, so the birds can shelter under its shadow."
|
|-
|33
|And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it.
|He used many parables like this one to preach God's word in a way that they could understand.
|Make clear that it's God's word, and that 'hear' means 'understand' in this context.
|-
|34
|But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
|But He never used parables when speaking to His own men. He explained everything to His own students.
|The Greek '''ιδιος''' means "one's own."
|-
|35
|And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side.
|Later that day, around sunset, He said to them: "Let's cross over to the opposite shore."
|Modernized word choices.
|-
|36
|And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.
|They dismissed the crowd, and then cast off in the boat where Jesus had been preaching, with Jesus still on board. Some other boats also went with them.
|'even as he was' needs some explanation for the modern reader.
|-
|37
|And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.
|Suddenly a fierce storm came, with strong winds. Waves started to break over the boat, so that it began to fill with water.
|Such squalls occur frequently on Lake Tiberias even today.
|-
|38
|And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?
|Jesus was sleeping on a cushion in the stern of the boat. They woke him saying, "Master, don't you care that we'll capsize and drown?"
|
|-
|39
|And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
|He got up and disapproved of the wind, and laid down the sea to an orderly and controlled state. The wind then stopped, and there was complete calm.
|This is often mistranslated as [[Jesus]] saying a command, when the more straightforward translation is consistent with [[quantum mechanics]]: it was his observation and [[faith]], not the spoken word, that ended the [[chaos]]. φιμόω: means to be kept in check, not a spoken command. Note that the similar descriptions in Matthew and Luke do not entail a spoken command.
|-
|40
|And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
|He asked them, "Why are you so afraid? Why haven't you any [[faith]]?"
|
|-
|41
|And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?
|Filled with awe, they asked each other: "What kind of Man is He, such that even the wind and sea obey Him?
|
|}

==Chapter 5==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
|They reached the other side of the lake, which was in the region where the Gadarenes lived.
|Most manuscripts say "Gerasenes," which is an alternative name for these people. They were the descendants of [[Gad]], one of the twelve sons of [[Jacob]].
|-
|2
|And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
|As Jesus disembarked the boat, he was immediately confronted by a possessed man,
|
|-
|3
|Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
|who was homeless and slept in a cemetery; no man had the strength to restrain him, not even with chains:
|avoid feminist style of seeking gender neutrality by replacing "man" with "one"; the reference is obviously to men not being able to restrain him, not to women
|-
|4
|Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
|Many times, he had been restrained by leg irons and chains, but he had thrown off the chains and broken the leg irons to pieces. No man could control him.
|The word originally rendered "fetters" means "leg irons."
|-
|5
|And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
|Day and night he roamed the mountains and tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.
|
|-
|6
|But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
|But when he glimpsed Jesus at a distance, he ran up to Him and fell down at His feet.
|
|-
|7
|And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
|He cried out loudly, "What business do I have with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you in God's name not to torment me."
|The Greek word '''υψιστος''' (''hypsistos'') literally means "highest."
|-
|8
|For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
|Because Jesus had proclaimed, "Get out of that man, evil spirit."
|
|-
|9
|And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
|Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" He answered, "My name is 'Legion', because we are many."
|
|-
|10
|And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
|He begged Jesus not to expel him from the region.
|The Greek word '''χωρα''', meaning "country," does not mean a nation-state. If Mark had meant that, he would have used the word '''βασιλεια''', or "kingdom."
|-
|11
|Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
|Near the mountains where they were, a large herd of pigs was feeding.
|Pigs more modern than archaic swine
|-
|12
|And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
|The demons all begged Jesus, "Send us to the pigs, so that we may possess them."
|
|-
|13
|And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
|Jesus then granted the demons the permission they sought. The demons left the man and possessed the pigs, and the herd rand violently down a steep embankment to drown in the sea, all two thousand of them.
|
|-
|14
|And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
|Those in charge of the pigs fled and told everyone in the town and countryside. People then went to see for themselves what had happened.
|
|-
|15
|And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
|They saw Jesus and the man formerly possessed, who was in his right mind and sitting peacefully, fully dressed; the people became afraid upon seeing him.
|
|-
|16
|And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
|Witnesses to the episode described for the people what had happened to the possessed man, and about the pigs.
|
|-
|17
|And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
|The terrified people began to plead that Jesus leave their area.
|
|-
|18
|And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
|When Jesus got back aboard His boat, the man who had been possessed begged Jesus to let him join His company.
|
|-
|19
|Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
|Instead, Jesus told him, "Return home to your friends, and tell them how the Lord has done wonders for you with compassion."
|In contrast to the usual instructions that Jesus gives, He asks the Gadarene to tell everyone he meets what happened to him. This might be because the Gadarene region was opposite Lake Tiberias from Jerusalem.
|-
|20
|And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
|So the man left and began speaking publicly in Decapolis about Jesus's great works for him, and everyone who heard the story was very much amazed.
|The Greek word '''θαυμαζομαι''' (''thaumadzomai'') connotes the "Wow!" degree of amazement.
|-
|21
|And when Jesus was passed over again by ship unto the other side, much people gathered unto him: and he was nigh unto the sea.
|A huge crowd was awaiting Jesus on the opposite coast as he crossed by boat, so He stayed on the seashore.
|
|-
|22
|And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue, Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet,
|One of the leaders of the synagogue, named Jairus, joined the crowd. When he saw Jesus, he threw himself at His feet,
|The usual Greek word '''ιδου''' ("Look!" or "Behold!") does not appear in the original.
|-
|23
|And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.
|and begged Him urgently, saying "My little daughter is dying. Please come and put Your hands on her, so that she will be healed; and then she will live."
|The Greek idiomatic phrase '''εσχατως εχω''' (''eschatos echo'', "I finally have") is best translated as "I am dying."
|-
|24
|And Jesus went with him; and much people followed him, and thronged him.
|Jesus accompanied him; many people followed Jesus, pressing Him on all sides.
|
|-
|25
|And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,
|One woman who had suffered from hemorrhages for twelve years,
|
|-
|26
|And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,
|and had suffered further from mistreatments by doctors, having spent all she had on them without any improvement; her condition even worsened.
|The "mistreatments" referred to here are conventional therapies that did more harm than good.
|-
|27
|When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.
|When she heard about Jesus she crowded behind Him and touched his clothes,
|
|-
|28
|For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.
|Because as she had said, "If I can just touch His clothes, I will be made well."
|
|-
|29
|And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.
|Instantly the hemorrhages ceased, and she felt cured of her illness.
|
|-
|30
|And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?
|Jesus immediately realized that power had discharged from him, and turned to the pressing crowd to say, "Who touched my clothes?"
|
|-
|31
|And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?
|His students replied, "You see the huge crowd pressing against you, and yet you ask, 'Who touched me'"?
|The astonishment of His students is self-evident.
|-
|32
|And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.
|Jesus turned and scanned the crowd to find her.
|
|-
|33
|But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.
|But the terrified, trembling woman, aware of the miracle, came and bowed at Jesus's feet, and told him the entire truth.
|
|-
|34
|And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
|Jesus said to her: "Daughter, your faith has saved you. Go with peace of mind, and live a life free from that terrible disease."
|The actual Greek phrase is "saved you," not "made you well."
|-
|35
|While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further?
|While Jesus was speaking, people told the synagogue leader, "Your daughter has died. Why bother this teacher any more?"
|
|-
|36
|As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.
|But as soon as Jesus heard about this, he said to the father, "Don't be afraid; only believe."
|
|-
|37
|And he suffered no man to follow him, save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.
|Jesus then allowed no one to follow Him, except Peter, James, and James' brother John.
|
|-
|38
|And he cometh to the house of the ruler of the synagogue, and seeth the tumult, and them that wept and wailed greatly.
|He came to the synagogue leader's home, and saw the mourning, and all those who wept and cried enormously.
|
|-
|39
|And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.
|When Jesus entered the house, he said to them, "What is the reason for all this uproar and crying? The girl is not dead - she's just asleep!"
|The mourners were in fact exaggerating, as was the custom of the day.
|-
|40
|And they laughed him to scorn. But when he had put them all out, he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel, and them that were with him, and entereth in where the damsel was lying.
|They laughed and ridiculed him. But after he evicted them all, he took the girl's mother and father with Him and His three students to where she was lying,
|
|-
|41
|And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.
|and taking her by the hand, said, "''talitha cumi''", which means "girl, I tell you to rise."
|
|-
|42
|And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.
|Immediately the 12-year-old girl got up and walked. The onlookers were positively astounded.
|In Greek (and also in Hebrew), repetition is sometimes done for emphasis, as in this case.
|-
|43
|And he charged them straitly that no man should know it; and commanded that something should be given her to eat.
|Jesus gave them strict orders not to tell anyone what had happened, and then commanded that the girl should be given something to eat.
|
|}

==Chapter 6==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him.
|Jesus then traveled home, followed by his students.
|
|-
|2
|And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
|On the next Sabbath, Jesus began teaching in the synagogue. Many were amazed, and declared, "How does this Man know so much? What kind of wisdom has been given to Him, enabling Him to perform such wonderful deeds?
|The Greek word '''εκπλησομαι''' (''ekplesomai'', I am amazed) typically stands for a mild sort of amazement, something less than "Wow!"
|-
|3
|Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
|Isn't this the carpenter we know, the son of Mary, the brother of James, Joseph, Judah and Simon? Don't we also know his sisters here?" So the public rejected Him.
|The Greek idiom '''σκανδαλιζομαι εν''' (skandalidzomai en) with the dative case means "I reject someone," or "I have doubts about someone."
|-
|4
|But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
|Jesus replied to their complaints, "A prophet lacks honor only in his own hometown, among his neighbors and in his own home."
|avoid compound negative
|-
|5
|And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
|Jesus was unable to perform any marvelous works in that area, except for healing a few sick people by laying His hands on them.
|His power might have been withheld because the people lacked faith in Him. Usually, if Jesus does a miraculous favor for someone, that someone previously believed that He could do it.
|-
|6
|And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
|He was in fact shocked at their lack of faith. He traveled around the villages in that area, teaching the people who lived there.
|Emphasize faith; superb use of [[faith]] here!
|-
|7
|And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
|He gathered the Twelve, and began to send them out in pairs, giving them the power to cast out evil spirits.
|The phrase ''pneumatoi acathartoi'' stands primarily for Satan's minions.
|-
|8
|And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
|He instructed them to take only a walking stick, and to bring nothing else: no bag, no bread, and no money in their belts,
|The Greek word used, '''χαλκον''' (''chalcon'') actually means small change, like the loose change that a modern Westerner keeps in his trouser pockets.
|-
|9
|But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
|and to wear only sandals, and not to wear two coats.
|
|-
|10
|And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
|He told them, "Whichever house you stay in while in a town, stay there until you leave that town.
|
|-
|11
|And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
|"And if anyone will not take you in or listen to you, when leaving them, shake the dust from under your feet as an indictment against their conduct. I tell you truly, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah will fare better on the day of judgment than that city."
|The "shaking of dust from the shoes" was a ritual in which a man took off his shoes and clapped them together.
|-
|12
|And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
|Thus they went among the towns, preaching repentance.
|
|-
|13
|And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
|There they cast out many demons, anointed the ill with oil, and healed them of their afflictions.
|
|-
|14
|And king Herod heard of him; (for his name was spread abroad): and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.
|The tetrarch, [[Herod Antipas]], heard news of this, as word of Jesus had spread fast and far. It was said that he was [[John the Baptist]] had risen from the dead, and miraculous powers were shown in his works.
|The impersonal construction is present in the best manuscripts. Why the Byzantine manuscripts use "He said" rather than "it was said" is unclear.
|-
|15
|Others said, That it is Elias. And others said, That it is a prophet, or as one of the prophets.
|Others rumored that he was [[Elijah]], while others still called him a [[prophet]] like those of the [[Old Testament]].
|"The prophets" was known to the audience of the time as the OT prophets, but this should be made clear to the modern reader.
|-
|16
|But when Herod heard thereof, he said, It is John, whom I beheaded: he is risen from the dead.
|Herod succumbed to the rumors and opined, "He is John, who I had murdered, back from the dead."
|
|-
|17
|For Herod himself had sent forth and laid hold upon John, and bound him in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife: for he had married her.
|For it had been Herod who had sent his men to capture and imprison John on account of his brother Philip's wife, Herodias, who he had married.
|
|-
|18
|For John had said unto Herod, It is not lawful for thee to have thy brother's wife.
|John used to tel Herod, "It is against the law for you to marry your brother's wife."
|
|-
|19
|Therefore Herodias had a quarrel against him, and would have killed him; but she could not:
|And so Herodias was hostile to John, and she would have killed him had she been able.
|
|-
|20
|For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.
|Herod actually was afraid of John, realizing that he was a just and holy man, and followed John's preaching closely. Herod couldn't always understand what John said, but he was glad to listen.
|The better manuscripts are necessary to clarify the meaning.
|-
|21
|And when a convenient day was come, that Herod on his birthday made a supper to his lords, high captains, and chief estates of Galilee;
|So Herodias waited for her opportunity, which came on Herod's birthday when he had a feast for his noblemen, ranking army officers, and high-ranking officials in Galilee.
|The Greek word '''χιλιαρχος''' (''chiliarchos'') means literally "leader of a thousand," therefore a Roman tribune or officer of similar rank in another army.
|-
|22
|And when the daughter of the said Herodias came in, and danced, and pleased Herod and them that sat with him, the king said unto the damsel, Ask of me whatsoever thou wilt, and I will give it thee.
|Herodias's daughter entered the room and danced, so pleasing Herod and his guests that the king exclaimed to the little girl, "Ask me whatever you like, and I will grant it!"
|The Greek '''κορασιον''' is typically translated simply as "girl" or "damsel",<ref>See talk page.</ref> and in fact means a girl who is not even a teen-ager.<ref>Definition of '''κορασιον''' in the Oxford Pocket Greek-English Dictionary</ref> The spectacle of a pre-adolescent girl dancing lewdly in front of a bunch of leering adult men ought to convince anyone of the immoral overtones of this scene.
|-
|23
|And he sware unto her, Whatsoever thou shalt ask of me, I will give it thee, unto the half of my kingdom.
|And he swore to her, "I will give you whatever you want from me, up to half of my kingdom."
|
|-
|24
|And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist.
|She went to ask her mother, "What should I ask for?" Her mother replied, "The head of John the Baptist."
|The use of quotes makes the phrase easier to understand.
|-
|25
|And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist.
|So she returned quickly to the tetrarch and responded, "I want John the Baptist's head on a platter."
|Herod Antipas' title was, of course, Tetrarch of Galilee. The Greek word rendered "charger" is actually a large platter.
|-
|26
|And the king was exceeding sorry; yet for his oath's sake, and for their sakes which sat with him, he would not reject her.
|Herod was very sorry. But because he had taken an oath and faced embarrassment in front of his guests if he declined, he complied.
|
|-
|27
|And immediately the king sent an executioner, and commanded his head to be brought: and he went and beheaded him in the prison,
|The king immediately sent an executioner, ordering him to bring John the Baptist's head. The executioner went to the prison and beheaded him.
|
|-
|28
|And brought his head in a charger, and gave it to the damsel: and the damsel gave it to her mother.
|The executioner brought the head on a platter and gave it to the little girl, who gave it to her mother.
|See notes to verse 22 above.
|-
|29
|And when his disciples heard of it, they came and took up his corpse, and laid it in a tomb.
|When John's students heard what had happened, they came and claimed his body and placed it in a tomb.
|
|-
|30
|And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
|The Apostles gathered around Jesus and told him about all the things they had done and what they had taught.
|
|-
|31
|And he said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
|Jesus told them, "Come with me privately to a desert place and rest". Because there were so many people coming and going, the apostles had not even had time to eat.
|The land was "desert" all around, but the use of "desert place" becomes appropriate in view of what happens next.
|-
|32
|And they departed into a desert place by ship privately.
|They sailed in a boat to a desert place to meet in private.
|
|-
|33
|And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
|When people saw them leaving, many of them recognized Jesus, so they hurried from their cities and got there before Jesus and the apostles did. The people crowded around Jesus when he arrived.
|
|-
|34
|And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.
|When Jesus got out of the boat He saw the large crowd of people, and felt sorry for them, because they reminded Him of a flock of sheep without a shepherd. So He started to teach them many things.
|
|-
|35
|And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
|But when the day was nearly over, His students approached Jesus and said, "We're in the middle of nowhere and it is going to get dark.
|quotation continues to next verse; it must have been "getting dark" yet so the phrasing is this way
|-
|36
|Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
|"Send this crowd into the surrounding villages in order to buy themselves bread to eat."
|
|-
|37
|He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
|Jesus replied "You should give them something to eat," and the students asked Him, "Should we go and spend two hundred shillings and buy some bread for them to eat?"
|The "shilling" is the Roman ''denarius'', which in fact was a day's wages for most men in the period.
|-
|38
|He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
|Jesus answered, "How many loaves do you have? Go check." After the students found out, they told him that they had five loaves of bread and two fish.
|
|-
|39
|And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
|Jesus told them to have everyone sit in groups on the grass.
|
|-
|40
|And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
|After they did, everyone sat down in long rows, of fifty or a hundred people.
|
|-
|41
|And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.
|When Jesus had the five loaves and two fish, he looked to heaven, blessed the food, and broke the loaves. He gave them to His students to feed the people, and split the two fish among everyone.
|
|-
|42
|And they did all eat, and were filled.
|After everyone was finished eating, they were all full.
|
|-
|43
|And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
|The students picked up twelve small baskets full of crumbs and the leftovers of fish.
|
|-
|44
|And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
|Five thousand men had filled their stomachs on those two loaves of bread and five fish.
|
|-
|45
|And straightway he constrained his disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side before unto Bethsaida, while he sent away the people.
|Then Jesus had his students board their boat, to go to Bethsaida ahead of him, while he bid the people farewell.
|
|-
|46
|And when he had sent them away, he departed into a mountain to pray.
|After he sent the people away, he went to a mountain to pray.
|
|-
|47
|And when even was come, the ship was in the midst of the sea, and he alone on the land.
|In the evening, the students' boat was in the middle of the lake, and he remained on the land alone.
|
|-
|48
|And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.
|He saw them rowing hard, since they were traveling into the wind: about the fourth watch of the night, he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, nearly passing it.
|"Fourth watch of the night" means between 3 AM and 6 AM.<ref>http://chestofbooks.com/reference/Facts-For-Everybody/Roman-Division-Of-Time.html</ref>
|-
|49
|But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:
|But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been a ghost, and cried out.
|
|-
|50
|For they all saw him, and were troubled. And immediately he talked with them, and saith unto them, Be of good cheer: it is I; be not afraid.
|They all saw Him, and were terrified. He spoke to them right away, and said, "Fear not, for I am. Do not be afraid."
|The "I am" is what the Greek says, and it mirrors Exodus 3:14 (God speaking from the burning bush) and John 8:58 (affirming Jesus's divinity).
|-
|51
|And he went up unto them into the ship; and the wind ceased: and they were sore amazed in themselves beyond measure, and wondered.
|He boarded the ship and the wind died down: they were very much amazed.
|The best manuscripts do not have the additional Greek word '''θαυμαζω'''.
|-
|52
|For they considered not the miracle of the loaves: for their heart was hardened.
|They had not understood the miracle of the loaves, because they had not opened their minds.
|The literal Greek phrase reads, "their heart was stubborn." The implication is simply that they were not yet ready to believe what they had seen.
|-
|53
|And when they had passed over, they came into the land of Gennesaret, and drew to the shore.
|After they crossed the lake, they came to the land of Gennesaret and pulled up to the shore.
|
|-
|54
|And when they were come out of the ship, straightway they knew him,
|When they had come off the boat, everyone immediately recognized Jesus.
|
|-
|55
|And ran through that whole region round about, and began to carry about in beds those that were sick, where they heard he was.
|They ran throughout the nearby area and carried all the sick people, in beds, to the place where Jesus was said to be.
|
|-
|56
|And whithersoever he entered, into villages, or cities, or country, they laid the sick in the streets, and besought him that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment: and as many as touched him were made whole.
|Wherever he went - villages, cities, or the countryside - people laid the sick in the streets, and begged Jesus to let them touch him, even just the edge of his coat. Everyone who touched him was healed.
|
|}

==Chapter 7==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
|Jesus was approached by the Pharisees, and some of the scribes, who came from [[Jerusalem]].
|"who" rather than "which"; a rare flaw in the style of the [[KJV]] is its use of "which" and "that" to refer to persons
|-
|2
|And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
|They observed several of His students eating bread with ritually unclean, i.e., unwashed, hands, and used that to criticize Jesus.
|The Greek word used is '''κοινος''' (''koinos''), meaning "common." In fact the Pharisees suggested that hands that had not been ceremonially washed were ritually unclean, and chose an elitist metaphor ("common") to make their point.
|-
|3
|For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
|The reason for this was that the Pharisees, along with all the other Jews, had a tradition never to eat unless they had washed their hands.
|
|-
|4
|And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
|When they came from the public square, they did not eat unless they had washed first. They retained many other traditions, such as the washing of cups, pots, kettles, and tables.
|This is a small sample of the many ways in which the Pharisees sought to over-regulate and micro-manage Jewish life.
|-
|5
|Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
|Then the Pharisees and the scribes asked Jesus, "Why don't your students follow the traditions of the elders, instead of eating bread with unwashed hands?"
|Again, the Pharisees use tradition as regulation, a regulation to which they give the force of written law.
|-
|6
|He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
|He responded to them, "[[Isaiah]] had you hypocrites dead to rights, when he wrote: 'These people speak respectful words to Me, by their hearts are not with Me.
|
|-
|7
|Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
|They worship Me in vain, and their teachings are nothing more than rules made by men.'
|
|-
|8
|For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
|After turning away from the law of God, you cling to the rules of mere men.
|The Byzantine manuscripts add the details about the cup and pot-washing regulations, but those are probably redundant interpolations.
|-
|9
|And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
|Isaiah also told them, 'You turn your backs on the commandment of God, in order to cling to your own customs.'
|Clarify the reference to Isaiah, which is ambiguous in most translations.
|-
|10
|For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
|For example: Moses said, 'Honor your father and mother; and whoever curses his father or mother should receive the death penalty';
|should outer quotations be added? Use the "death penalty"
|-
|11
|But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
|But you allow a man to say to his father or mother, 'Whatever help I might have given you was instead given to God as a temple offering,'
|difficult to translate; more improvement welcome; issue of outside quotations remains; Corban replaced by "temple offering"
|-
|12
|And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
|and excused him from helping his father or mother any further.
|The Greek phrase means "permit not to do" rather than "not permit to do." Thus, "excuse" is correct.
|-
|13
|Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
|"You have made God's word and law useless with your tradition of revision, and many other actions like it."
|
|-
|14
|And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
|When Jesus had called the people together around him, he said, "Listen to me, each of you, and know the truth."
|
|-
|15
|There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
|"Nothing outside a man can enter him and corrupt him. Instead, that which comes from within can corrupt him."
|Interesting as this is also a doctrine in Plato (see the apology). Was he inspired by God, or perhaps did Jesus know earlier doctrines?
|-
|16
|If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
|"So if anyone wishes to know the truth, let him listen."
|"ears to hear" denotes the open minded listener
|-
|17
|And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
|Afterward, when he had left the people and entered the house, His students asked Him about the parable.
|
|-
|18
|And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
|To this he responded, "Are you also so ignorant? Don't you see that anything which enters a man from outside cannot corrupt him,"
|
|-
|19
|Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
|"Because it enters his stomach, not his heart, and then is eliminated?"
|Literally, "gets thrown down the toilet."
|-
|20
|And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
|To this he added, "Anything that comes out of a man, it is that which corrupts him."
|
|-
|21
|For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
|"Because, from inside of the heart come evil thoughts, adultery, fornication, murder,"
|
|-
|22
|Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
|"theft, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lustfulness, an evil eye, blasphemy, uncontrolled pride, and foolishness."
|
|-
|23
|All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
|"All of these wicked things come from inside a man and corrupt him."
|
|-
|24
|And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid.
|Then He left that place, and traveled to the borders of [[Tyre]] and [[Sidon]]. He wanted to keep the place where He was staying a secret, but He had become so well-known that this was impossible.
|The Greek verb '''θελω''' (''thelo'') means "I want to do something." The "I will" construct is obsolete.
|-
|25
|For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
|A woman whose daughter had been possessed by a demon heard the news of Him, came to Him and fell down before Him.
|
|-
|26
|The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
|She was Greek, a Syrophenician, and begged that he would throw the demon out of her daughter.
|
|-
|27
|But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
|Jesus replied to her, "The children must first be fed, for it is wrong to take their bread and cast it among the dogs."
|Especially since [[dog]]s were scavengers in those days, at least in that region, because they were chthonic or "bad-luck" animals.
|-
|28
|And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.
|To this she answered, "Yes, Lord, but the dogs under the table can eat the children's crumbs."
|
|-
|29
|And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
|So Jesus replied, "Go on your way; you have proved your faith, and the demon has been cast out of your daughter."
|
|-
|30
|And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.
|When she returned to her home, she found that her daughter was lying upon her bed and Satan had left her.
|
|-
|31
|And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis.
|Leaving the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, Jesus reached Lake Tiberias, among the coasts of Decapolis.
|Sea->lake as per previous instances
|-
|32
|And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him.
|The people brought him a deaf man with a speech impediment, praying that he would lay hands upon him.
|Some deaf people do try to speak, but because they cannot hear themselves talk, their speech is sometimes difficult for a hearing person to understand.
|-
|33
|And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;
|Jesus took him away privately from the crowd. He put his fingers into the man's ears, spit, then touched his tongue.
|
|-
|34
|And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened.
|Looking up to heaven, he sighed and said, "Ephphatha," which means "be opened."
|
|-
|35
|And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain.
|The man's ears were immediately opened, and the muscles of his tongue healed, letting him speak clearly and understandably.
|
|-
|36
|And he charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it;
|Jesus ordered the people not to tell this story, but the more he ordered this, the more they spread the news.
|
|-
|37
|And were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well: he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak.
|They were completely blown away, and said, "He has wielded great power in all things. He makes the deaf hear and the dumb speak."
|"Done all things well" has lost its emphatic meaning
|}

==Chapter 8==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
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|1
|In those days the multitude being very great, and having nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples unto him, and saith unto them,
|The crowd that followed Jesus was enormous and had little to eat, so Jesus gathered His students and said,
|
|-
|2
|I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
|"I have great love and empathy for the people, who have been following Me for three days and now have nothing to eat."
|
|-
|3
|And if I send them away fasting to their own houses, they will faint by the way: for divers of them came from far.
|I am responsible for them, for if I send them away to their homes, they will collapse along the way, as many of them have come a great distance."
|Making the sentiment of responsibility clear.
|-
|4
|And his disciples answered him, From whence can a man satisfy these men with bread here in the wilderness?
|The students responded, "How can we feed these people bread out in the desert where food is scarce?"
|
|-
|5
|And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven.
|Jesus asked them, "how many loaves do you have?" They replied, "seven."
|
|-
|6
|And he commanded the people to sit down on the ground: and he took the seven loaves, and gave thanks, and brake, and gave to his disciples to set before them; and they did set them before the people.
|So he told the crowd to sit down, and taking the seven loaves and giving thanks unto God, he broke them and gave them to His students to distribute, and they did.
|
|-
|7
|And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before them.
|They also had a few small fish, which he also blessed and had distributed.
|Plural "fishes" antiquated
|-
|8
|So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets.
|The people ate and were filled, and the students found that a surplus of seven large baskets of meat remained.
|The basket used at this feeding of the second multitude was larger than the one used at the first.
|-
|9
|And they that had eaten were about four thousand: and he sent them away.
|Four thousand people had eaten, and Jesus sent them on their way.
|
|-
|10
|And straightway he entered into a ship with his disciples, and came into the parts of Dalmanutha.
|Jesus went into a boat with the students and traveled into Dalmanutha.
|
|-
|11
|And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him.
|The Pharisees came to Him and began to try to test Him with their questions, demanding a sign from heaven.
|
|-
|12
|And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
|In his soul he sighed deeply at their lack of faith, and he replied, "Why does this generation want a sign? I'll tell you the truth: you will not be given a sign."
|
|-
|13
|And he left them, and entering into the ship again departed to the other side.
|So he left them, returned to the boat and traveled across the lake.
|
|-
|14
|Now the disciples had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf.
|The students had neglected to bring bread on board, and had not so much as one loaf aboard.
|
|-
|15
|And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
|And Jesus warned them, "I caution you, beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and the yeast of Herod."
|"Yeast" is the modern translation of the Greek word '''ζυμης''' (''zymes'', whence "enzyme").
|-
|16
|And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no bread.
|They discussed this among themselves and decided, "He says this because we didn't bring bread."
|
|-
|17
|And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?
|And Jesus knew this and said, "Why do you think this is about bread? Do you still not perceive or understand the message? Have your minds been closed?"
|The "heart" in ancient culture was much more connected with reason, thought, and the mind than in present culture. The Greek idiom refers to stubborn refusal to believe, not deliberate rebellion.
|-
|18
|Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?
|"You have eyes and ears, but do you see, hear, or even remember?"
|
|-
|19
|When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.
|"When I distributed the five loaves among five thousand people, how many small baskets of remainders did you collect?" "Twelve."
|
|-
|20
|And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.
|"And of the seven loaves given to the four thousand, how many large baskets remained?" "Seven."
|
|-
|21
|And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
|"Why do you still not understand?"
|
|-
|22
|And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.
|Jesus arrived at Bethsaida, where people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
|
|-
|23
|And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
|Jesus took the hand of the blind man, and led him outside the village; Jesus spit on the man's eyes, and laid His hands upon him, asking if he could see.
|
|-
|24
|And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
|The man looked up and declared, "I only see men that look like walking trees."
|The truth of this description of the initial perception of a blind man who suddenly sees was only confirmed nearly 2000 years later by modern ophthalmologists.
|-
|25
|After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.
|Jesus put His hands on the blind man's eyes again, and then told him to look up. The man's sight was restored, so that he could see every man around him clearly.
|Modernizing language.
|-
|26
|And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.
|Jesus sent him home and told him, "Do not enter the village or tell anyone there about this."
|The "or tell anyone there about this" is missing from some ancient manuscripts, but it is consistent with Jesus's concern.
|-
|27
|And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
|Jesus and the students then went to the towns around Caesarea Philippi, and while walking He asked them, "Whom do men say that I am?"
|avoid emasculation of "men" as "people" or other gender neutral term
|-
|28
|And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
|The students replied, "'[[John the Baptist]].' But some say '[[Elijah]]', and others say, 'One of the [[prophets]].'"
|
|-
|29
|And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
|And He asked, "Who do you say I am?" to which Peter answered, "you are Christ."
|
|-
|30
|And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
|And He told them not to tell anyone about his true nature.
|
|-
|31
|And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
|He taught them of things that must pass, that the Son of Man would suffer great trials, be rejected by the elders, the leading priests, and the scribes, and would be killed, only to rise again to life in three days time.
|
|-
|32
|And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
|He said this openly, but Peter took him aside and began to protest.
|
|-
|33
|But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
|But Jesus turned and, looking at His students, rebuffed Peter. "Begone, Satan. You aren't thinking about Godly things, but the things of men."
|
|-
|34
|And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
|Then calling the people to Himself and the students, Jesus said, "Anyone who wants to follow Me must lay aside all thought for himself, pick up his cross, and follow Me.
|An expression of total commitment, no turning back, and being pepared to die if necessary.
|-
|35
|For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
|For he who seeks to save his life will lose it, while anyone persecuted to death for the sake of myself and the gospels will be saved.
|
|-
|36
|For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
|For what good is it for a man to win the whole world if he condemns his soul?
|
|-
|37
|Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
|Or What will a man pay in exchange for his soul?
|
|-
|38
|Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
|If anyone is ashamed of Me or My teaching to this adulterous, sinful generation, I, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when I return with the glory of My Father and His Holy Messengers."
|The word '''αγγελος''' (''angelos'') means "messenger" and described what the [[angel]]s were.
|}

[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)]]

== References ==

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[[Category:Conservative Bible]]

Mark 1-8 (Translated)

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==Chapter 1==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;
|The beginning of the good news of Jesus Christ, the Son of God:
|The Greek word '''ευαγγελιον''' or ''evangelion'' means literally "a good message." "Gospel" is an Old English word meaning "a good story." Today the best phrase is "good news."
|-
|2
|As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.
|As was written by [[Isaiah]] the prophet: "Behold, I am sending My messenger before your face, who will prepare your way.
|The best manuscripts do in fact mention Isaiah directly.
|-
|3
|The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.
|The voice of a messenger preaching among skeptics, 'Prepare for the way of the Lord and make straight His path.'"
|The wilderness is a metaphor for the unrepentant crowd. Why would he cry out in the wilderness, where none would hear? Too often taken as literal.
|-
|4
|John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.
|As it happened, John was baptizing in the desert, preaching repentance and the forgiveness of sins.
|The Greek verb '''βαπτιζω''' or ''baptidzo'' means literally "I give someone a bath." The bath is a total-immersion bath.
|-
|5
|And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.
|Everyone from the country of [[Judea]] and [[Jerusalem]] went to him, confessing their sins and receiving baptism in the Jordan River.
|
|-
|6
|And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;
|John survived on bare necessities, wearing a camel's hair habit with a leather loin wrap; his food consisted of locusts and wild [[honey]];
|
|-
|7
|And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.
|He preached to the crowd, "There will be someone so much greater that I am not even fit to stoop and untie his sandal straps for him."
|
|-
|8
|I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
|"I have baptized you with water, but He shall baptize you with the Divine Guide."
|tentatively using "Divine Guide" per talk page. "With the power of the" does not appear.
|-
|9
|And it came to pass in those days, that Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized of John in Jordan.
|Jesus then came from Nazareth of Galilee, and was baptized by John in the Jordan River.
|
|-
|10
|And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
|And as soon as Jesus emerged from the water, the heavens opened and the Divine Guide descended like a dove upon Him:
|See 8.
|-
|11
|And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
|A voice came from heaven declaring, "You are my beloved Son whom I value greatly."
|Saying you 'love' a 'beloved' person may be poor english.
|-
|12
|And immediately the Spirit driveth him into the wilderness.
|The Divine Guide then led Jesus into the desert.
|it was more a desert than a wilderness. See 8 re. Guide.
|-
|13
|And he was there in the wilderness forty days, tempted of Satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered unto him.
|He remained in the desert for forty days, where Satan tested Him; and He was with wild animals as the angels waited on Him.
|The Greek '''πειραζω''' or ''peiradzo'' means "I test." This "testing" is like an engineer's test. Matthew and Luke give far greater detail of Jesus's Final Examination.
|-
|14
|Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God.
|Next, after John was arrested, Jesus arrived in Galilee and preached the good news of the kingdom of God,
|Consistency with verse 1
|-
|15
|And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
|He said, "The time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand. Change your hearts and believe the good news."
|Gospel (good news) is a literal translation of the Greek word '''ευαγγελιον'''.
|-
|16
|Now as he walked by the sea of Galilee, he saw Simon and Andrew his brother casting a net into the sea: for they were fishers.
|As He was walking by the Sea of Galilee, He Saw Simon and his brother Andrew casting a net into the sea, for they were fishermen,
|The "Sea of Galilee" is today known as Lake Tiberias.
|-
|17
|And Jesus said unto them, Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men.
|And Jesus said to them, "Follow Me, and I will make you fishers of men."
|
|-
|18
|And straightway they forsook their nets, and followed him.
|Dropping their nets at once, they followed him.
|straightway and forsook are largely unused. The word rendered "forsake" actually means to abandon or, in this case, to set aside.
|-
|19
|And when he had gone a little further thence, he saw James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother, who also were in the ship mending their nets.
|When He had traveled a little further, He saw James, the son of Zebedee, and John, his brother, who were also in their boat, mending their nets.
|The Greek word '''πλοιον''' or ''ploion'' means any sailing vessel of any size. The vessels of Lake Tiberias were never of a size that deserves the designation of "ship" in modern English. Vessels of that size sailed the Mediterranean Sea, not the Sea of Galilee.

The use of the definite article with ''ploion'' means that the two brothers were on a particular boat. This is most likely the boat that their father owned; hence the possessive pronoun.
|-
|20
|And straightway he called them: and they left their father Zebedee in the ship with the hired servants, and went after him.
|He called to them, and they left their father Zebedee and his crew aboard the boat, and went with Jesus.
|The Greek word '''μισθωτος''' or ''misthotos'' means one who works for hire; in this case a "hand," or member of a boat's crew.
|-
|21
|And they went into Capernaum; and straightway on the sabbath day he entered into the synagogue, and taught.
|They went into Capernaum and as soon as He arrived He entered the synagogue on the holy day to teach.
|'Holy day' rather than sabbath? - modern terminology
|-
|22
|And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.
|There, the listeners were astonished by his doctrine, for He taught as a man of great authority, not as a scribe.
|"They" is a needlessly vague term for the audience
|-
|23
|And there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit; and he cried out,
|A man with an evil spirit was in the synagogue.
|The Greek '''πνευμα ακαθαρτης''' or ''pneuma akathartis'' means literally "unclean spirit." This refers to a spirit being having no relationship to God, i.e., a demon.
|-
|24
|Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.
|He shouted, "Leave us alone, Jesus of Nazareth, for we're none of your business. Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are, the Holy One of God."
|The idiomatic phrase "what have I to do with you" or "what have we to do with you" is best expressed in modern English as "Mind your own business" or a similar phrase.
|-
|25
|And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him.
|Jesus then scolded the spirit, and said, "Stop moaning and pull out of him."
|Satan rarely possesses a man by himself; he sends his minions, called demons to do that "dirty work" for him.
|-
|26
|And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.
|The evil spirit was then ripped away from the possessed man, cried out in a loud voice, and left him.
|Passive rather than active to indicate Jesus' role?
|-
|27
|And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him.
|The bystanders were all amazed, and asked each other, "What is happening? Is this a new doctrine? He acted with authority in ordering the evil spirits, and they obeyed him!"
|
|-
|28
|And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee.
|The news about Jesus spread immediately throughout Galilee.
|
|-
|29
|And forthwith, when they were come out of the synagogue, they entered into the house of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
|As soon as Jesus's group left the synagogue, they entered the home of Simon and Andrew, with James and John.
|
|-
|30
|But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell him of her.
|But Simon's mother-in-law was in bed sick with a fever, and Jesus was told.
|
|-
|31
|And he came and took her by the hand, and lifted her up; and immediately the fever left her, and she ministered unto them.
|So he came and, taking her by her hand, helped her stand up; and when she did the fever immediately passed, and she waited on the others.
|
|-
|32
|And at even, when the sun did set, they brought unto him all that were diseased, and them that were possessed with devils.
|At sundown the people brought to Jesus many sick people, and many demon-oppressed people,
|
|-
|33
|And all the city was gathered together at the door.
|And all the city's people gathered at His door.
|
|-
|34
|And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.
|Jesus healed many who were diseased, and He threw out many demons; he commanded the demons to be silent, and they obeyed because they knew Jesus as God.
|"Threw out many demons" sounds a bit strange. "Drove out" may be a better rendering of Greek εξεβαλεν.
|-
|35
|And in the morning, rising up a great while before day, he went out, and departed into a solitary place, and there prayed.
|In the early morning, long before dawn, He left to pray by himself.
|
|-
|36
|And Simon and they that were with him followed after him.
|Simon and the others followed Him,
|
|-
|37
|And when they had found him, they said unto him, All men seek for thee.
|And upon finding him they said, "Everyone is looking for You."
|Seems a bit awkward
|-
|38
|And he said unto them, Let us go into the next towns, that I may preach there also: for therefore came I forth.
|Jesus replied, "Let us travel to the other towns, so I may preach in them too, for that is the reason I came."
|
|-
|39
|And he preached in their synagogues throughout all Galilee, and cast out devils.
|And he preached in the synagogues and threw out demons throughout Galilee.
|
|-
|40
|And there came a leper to him, beseeching him, and kneeling down to him, and saying unto him, If thou wilt, thou canst make me clean.
|A leper came to him, kneeling and imploring him, saying, "If you wish it, please cure my illness."
|"Make clean" replaced with the modern concept "cure." Does this change/mask the meaning?
|-
|41
|And Jesus, moved with compassion, put forth his hand, and touched him, and saith unto him, I will; be thou clean.
|Jesus was moved by compassion, and putting out his hand to touch him, replied, "I will. Be cured."
|See 40.
|-
|42
|And as soon as he had spoken, immediately the leprosy departed from him, and he was cleansed.
|Immediately after Jesus had spoken, the leprosy departed the man, and he was cured.
|See 40.
|-
|43
|And he straitly charged him, and forthwith sent him away;
|Jesus gave him strict orders to leave at once;
|
|-
|44
|And saith unto him, See thou say nothing to any man: but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer for thy cleansing those things which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
|And said to him, "Tell no one, but be on your way and show yourself to the priest, offering in thanks for your healing what Moses commanded. This will serve as testimony to others."
|
|-
|45
|But he went out, and began to publish it much, and to blaze abroad the matter, insomuch that Jesus could no more openly enter into the city, but was without in desert places: and they came to him from every quarter.
|But the cured man immediately announced to all what had happened, and the publicity made it impossible for Jesus to enter any city openly. He withdrew to the desert, but the people still came to him from everywhere.
|
|}

==Chapter 2==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And again he entered into Capernaum, after some days; and it was noised that he was in the house.
|He returned to Capernaum after several days, and the news spread that He was at home.
|The Greek literally reads "it was heard that he was in house."
|-
|2
|And straightway many were gathered together, insomuch that there was no room to receive them, no, not so much as about the door: and he preached the word unto them.
|A large crowd immediately filled the room to capacity, so many that the door was blocked to access by others, as He was speaking the Truth to them.
|
|-
|3
|And they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was borne of four.
|They brought him a paralyzed man, carried by four men.
|
|-
|4
|And when they could not come nigh unto him for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was: and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of the palsy lay.
|Finding they could not reach Him, because the crowd was so thick, they removed the roof above Him and, when they had done so, lowered the paralytic in his bed.
|
|-
|5
|When Jesus saw their faith, he said unto the sick of the palsy, Son, thy sins be forgiven thee.
|Seeing their faith in Him, He told the paralyzed man, "Son, your sins are forgiven."
|
|-
|6
|But there were certain of the scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their hearts,
|Some scribes were sitting in the crowd. They thought to themselves,
|
|-
|7
|Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?
|"Why is this Man speaking such blasphemy? Who can forgive our sins but God Himself?"
|Capitalized on account of Who He is, not on account of what the scribes thought He was.

A ''scribe'' was one having the specific job of copying out the Jewish Scriptures (the [[Old Testament]]) from old copies that were falling apart. Scribes also commonly taught the Scriptures in the synagogues. The problem was that they taught from rote memory, and the clear implication, here and elsewhere, is that these scribes memorized the text as if for recital but never really read it for understanding, much less personal lifestyle application.
|-
|8
|And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said unto them, Why reason ye these things in your hearts?
|Jesus immediately perceived in His spirit what they were thinking, and he asked them, "Why are you so hostile to this?
|the hostility was to the forgiveness
|-
|9
|Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?
|"Is it easier to tell a paralyzed man that his sins are forgiven, or to pick up his bed and walk?
|
|-
|10
|But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)
|"But to remove any doubt about the Son of man's power on earth to forgive sins," he next said to the paralyzed man,
|
|-
|11
|I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.
|"Get up, carry your bed, and go home!"
|
|-
|12
|And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion.
|And he got up, carried his bed, and left, in plain sight of the crowd. Amazed, they all praised God, saying, "We've never seen such a thing before."
|The Greek idiom is very close to this.
|-
|13
|And he went forth again by the sea side; and all the multitude resorted unto him, and he taught them.
|Jesus continued along the seaside, and all the crowds thronged around Him, and He taught them.
|
|-
|14
|And as he passed by, he saw Levi the son of Alphaeus sitting at the receipt of custom, and said unto him, Follow me. And he arose and followed him.
|He passed Levi, son of Alphaeus, at a tax office and told him, "Follow me." Levi arose and followed.
|Some manuscripts give this man's name as "James."
|-
|15
|And it came to pass, that, as Jesus sat at meat in his house, many publicans and sinners sat also together with Jesus and his disciples: for there were many, and they followed him.
|As it happened, Jesus then dined at His house with a great many tax collectors and sinners who chose to follow Him.
|The English word ''publican'' is not from the Greek. It is the [[Latin]] word ''publicanus'', meaning a private citizen commissioned to collect taxes for the Roman government and empowered to collect more than the tax from the people and keep the balance. This policy was controversial even in Rome itself, and especially in Judea Province, where tax collectors were regarded as the lowest form of scum in Jewish society.
|-
|16
|And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?
|Seeing him eating with the tax collectors and sinners, the Pharisees and scribes demanded of His students, "Why does he eat and drink with these tax collectors and sinners?"
|
|-
|17
|When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
|Hearing this, Jesus replied, "It is not the healthy but the sick that need a doctor. I did not come to call the just to change their hearts, but instead the sinners."
|
|-
|18
|And the disciples of John and of the Pharisees used to fast: and they come and say unto him, Why do the disciples of John and of the Pharisees fast, but thy disciples fast not?
|The students of John and of the Pharisees used to fast. And so they came and asked Him, "Why do the students of John and of the Pharisees fast, but Your students do not?"
|
|-
|19
|And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.
|To this Jesus replied, "Why should the members of the wedding party fast, so long as the bridegroom is among them? While he remains, they have no cause to fast."
|"Cannot" implies impossibility, rather than lack of necessity. They have no cause to fast so long as the Son is with them.
|-
|20
|But the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken away from them, and then shall they fast in those days.
|"Soon it will be that the bridegroom will be taken from them, and only then will they fast."
|
|-
|21
|No man also seweth a piece of new cloth on an old garment: else the new piece that filled it up taketh away from the old, and the rent is made worse.
|"No man patches old clothing with a new piece of cloth, as it will pull apart as it ages, making the tear worse.
|
|-
|22
|And no man putteth new wine into old bottles: else the new wine doth burst the bottles, and the wine is spilled, and the bottles will be marred: but new wine must be put into new bottles.
|"And no man puts fresh grape juice into old bottles. The fresh juice will burst the bottles, spilling the juice and damaging the bottles. Fresh juice must be put into new bottles."
|The Greek word '''οινος''', translated "wine," actually meant "fruit of the vine" and was not fermented, as it commonly is today. Repeated references in the Book of Proverbs tell their readers specifically to avoid fermented grape juice. Furthermore, at least five methods of preservation were known to the ancients, methods that avoided fermentation, long before [[Louis Pasteur]] would invent his pressure-cooking method.
|-
|23
|And it came to pass, that he went through the corn fields on the sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of corn.
|On one Sabbath day, He traveled through the corn fields, and His students started to pluck the ears of corn as they passed.
|
|-
|24
|And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful?
|The Pharisees cried, "Look! You're breaking Sabbath regulations!"
|The Pharisees were notorious for promulgating regulations about proper religious living. Half of those regulations weren't even in Scripture. The extensive body of regulations that they invented, on the theory of what constituted "working on the Sabbath," was a prize example.
|-
|25
|And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him?
|To this Jesus replied, "Haven't you read what David and his allies did, when he was hungry and in need?"
|
|-
|26
|How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread, which is not lawful to eat but for the priests, and gave also to them which were with him?
|"How he went into God's temple, in the times of the [[High Priest]] [[Abiathar]], and ate the blessed bread - the bread which only priests are allowed to eat - and fed his allies with it?"
|Actually, the high priest at the time was Abiathar's father [[Ahimelech I]]. But Abiathar was present when this incident occurred, and continued to follow David after Ahimelech was assassinated.
|-
|27
|And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
|Jesus told them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath,
|clarifies role of Sabbath, against slavish observation to the point of hurting man.
|-
|28
|Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.
|and therefore the Son of man is also Lord of the Sabbath."
|
|}

==Chapter 3==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he entered again into the synagogue; and there was a man there which had a withered hand.
|Jesus returned to the synagogue, and noticed man with a crippled hand.
|
|-
|2
|And they watched him, whether he would heal him on the sabbath day; that they might accuse him.
|They were watching Jesus to see if they might catch and accuse him of healing on the Sabbath.
|Presumably "they" are the [[Pharisees]]. See talk.
|-
|3
|And he saith unto the man which had the withered hand, Stand forth.
|Jesus told the man with the crippled hand, "Stand up in front of everyone."
|
|-
|4
|And he saith unto them, Is it lawful to do good on the sabbath days, or to do evil? to save life, or to kill? But they held their peace.
|Jesus asked them, "Which is lawful on the Sabbath: doing good or evil? Saving a life, or killing one?" And they didn't answer.
|
|-
|5
|And when he had looked round about on them with anger, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts, he saith unto the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it out: and his hand was restored whole as the other.
|Jesus looked around at them, feeling anger and pity for the hardness of their hearts, and said to the injured man, "Open your hand." He then opened and held out his hand, and it was as good as new.
|
|-
|6
|And the Pharisees went forth, and straightway took counsel with the Herodians against him, how they might destroy him.
|The Pharisees then fled from the scene to plot with the Herodians against Jesus, and plan how they might destroy him.
|The Herodians were a sect among the Jews who were political partisans of [[Herod Antipas]]. Normally the Pharisees had nothing to do with this faction. In this, as in many other contexts, "[[politics]] makes strange bedfellows."
|-
|7
|But Jesus withdrew himself with his disciples to the sea: and a great multitude from Galilee followed him, and from Judaea,
|Jesus then departed for the quiet of a lake, but crowds from Galilee and [[Judea]] followed him,
|The body of water called the "Sea of Galilee" in the Greek is called Lake Tiberias today and was and is in fact a fresh-water lake, not an extension of the [[ocean]] system that a true "sea" would be.
|-
|8
|And from Jerusalem, and from Idumaea, and from beyond Jordan; and they about Tyre and Sidon, a great multitude, when they had heard what great things he did, came unto him.
|And crowds went to Jesus from [[Jerusalem]], [[Idumea]], [[Tyre]] and [[Sidon]], and from beyond the Jordan River, after hearing of his great deeds for the sick.
|modernize spelling: Idumaea -> Idumea
|-
|9
|And he spake to his disciples, that a small ship should wait on him because of the multitude, lest they should throng him.
|Jesus asked His students for a small boat that would enable him to keep a distance from pressing crowds.
|
|-
|10
|For he had healed many; insomuch that they pressed upon him for to touch him, as many as had plagues.
|Jesus had healed many people, so that many diseased persons pressed on Him trying to touch Him.
|The word used here for "disease" is actually the Greek word '''μαστιξ''' or ''mastix'', literally a whip or the beating one might receive from a whip. This is obviously a violent metaphor that Mark used for illness.
|-
|11
|And unclean spirits, when they saw him, fell down before him, and cried, saying, Thou art the Son of God.
|Upon seeing Jesus, evil spirits fell down before him crying, "You are the Son of God!"
|need to add something to convey that these spirits possessed people
|-
|12
|And he straitly charged them that they should not make him known.
|But Jesus strictly commanded them not to tell others who he was.
|
|-
|13
|And he goeth up into a mountain, and calleth unto him whom he would: and they came unto him.
|He then walked up a mountain, calling whomever He wanted to follow him, and they did.
|
|-
|14
|And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,
|He appointed twelve men as Apostles, to be with him, so he could send them to preach to the world,
|Some manuscripts, including the Byzantine, don't have the phrase "to be apostles." ''Apostle'' literally means "one sent out." These men were the first-ever missionaries.
|-
|15
|And to have power to heal sicknesses, and to cast out devils:
|and to have the authority to throw demons out of people.
|
|-
|16
|And Simon he surnamed Peter;
|Jesus gave the surname of Peter to Simon.
|
|-
|17
|And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:
|He also appointed James and his brother John, the sons of Zebedee, and called them "Boanerges," which means "The Sons of Thunder":
|
|-
|18
|And Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
|His other apointees were Andrew, Philip, Bartholomew, Matthew, Thomas, James the son of Alphaeus, Thaddaeus, and Simon the Canaanite,
|This might be the source of the confusion, by a later copyist, of this "James son of Alphaeus" with ''Levi'' son of Alphaeus, the tax collector. The other name of Levi, given here, is ''Matthew''.
|-
|19
|And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house.
|And Judas Iscariot, who was to betray Jesus: and they all entered a house
|note how the [[KJV]] uses "which" for persons, rather than the more respectful "who"; the KJV also uses "an" rather than "a" before a word that begins with "h"
|-
|20
|And the multitude cometh together again, so that they could not so much as eat bread.
|But the crowd pressed upon them so much that they could not even eat.
|
|-
|21
|And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.
|When Jesus's own family heard of this, they went to rescue him, saying, "He is out of his mind."
|note how even Jesus's own family felt less of him
|-
|22
|And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils.
|Some scribes from Jerusalem came also, smearing Jesus by saying "He has [[Beelzebub]] and throws out demons by calling on the leader of demons!"
|This [[Beelzebub]] (literally, Lord of the Flies) is another name for [[Satan]], but was also a pagan Canaanite god during the time of [[Elijah]].
|-
|23
|And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?
|But Jesus called them together and taught in parables, and asked "How can Satan cast out Satan?
|
|-
|24
|And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand.
|"A kingdom divided against itself cannot stand.
|
|-
|25
|And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.
|"Nor can a house divided against itself stand."
|
|-
|26
|And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.
|"So if Satan were divided against himself, he could not stand, and would perish."
|
|-
|27
|No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house.
|"No one can break into a well-armed man's house to destroy his property, unless he first tie the man down. Only then can he damage his home.
|"Strong" replaced with modern equivalent of defended
|-
|28
|Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
|"I tell you: all the sons of men will be forgiven their sins and their blasphemies, whatever they might be:
|
|-
|29
|But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
|"But any man who blasphemes against the Divine Guide will never be forgiven, but risks eternal damnation."
|
|-
|30
|Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.
|This Jesus told them because they lied, "He has an evil spirit."
|
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|31
|There came then his brethren and his mother, and, standing without, sent unto him, calling him.
|His mother and his brothers, who were standing outside, asked to see him.
|
|-
|32
|And the multitude sat about him, and they said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren without seek for thee.
|The crowd around Jesus said to him, "Your mother and brothers are outside, looking for you."
|Some manuscripts omit the brothers.
|-
|33
|And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren?
|To which he responded, "Who is My mother, or My brothers?"
|
|-
|34
|And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
|Then, looking around at the gathered crowed, he said, "You are My mother and My brothers!
|
|-
|35
|For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
|"Whoever does what God wants, qualifies as My brother, sister or mother."
|
|}

==Chapter 4==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he began again to teach by the sea side: and there was gathered unto him a great multitude, so that he entered into a ship, and sat in the sea; and the whole multitude was by the sea on the land.
|Jesus returned to teaching again on the seashore, but the crowd was so overwhelming that he turned a boat into a makeshift pulpit while the people pressed to the shoreline.
|The acoustics at many shore sites on Lake Tiberias are in fact good enough to allow this.
|-
|2
|And he taught them many things by parables, and said unto them in his doctrine,
|He taught them many things, using parables. During one of His lessons, He said,
|The Greek '''διδαχη''' or ''didache'' can mean the subject being taught, the act of teaching, or a particular lesson.
|-
|3
|Hearken; Behold, there went out a sower to sow:
|"Listen. A farmer went out to sow a crop.
|
|-
|4
|And it came to pass, as he sowed, some fell by the way side, and the fowls of the air came and devoured it up.
|"As he sowed, some seed was scattered on the path, and birds came and ate it up.
|
|-
|5
|And some fell on stony ground, where it had not much earth; and immediately it sprang up, because it had no depth of earth:
|"Some fell on stony ground, which lacked deep soil. It grew quickly,
|
|-
|6
|But when the sun was up, it was scorched; and because it had no root, it withered away.
|"But once the sun was out, it was scorched and withered away, as its roots were too shallow.
|
|-
|7
|And some fell among thorns, and the thorns grew up, and choked it, and it yielded no fruit.
|"Some was scattered among weeds, which choked it, and it didn't produce fruit.
|
|-
|8
|And other fell on good ground, and did yield fruit that sprang up and increased; and brought forth, some thirty, and some sixty, and some an hundred.
|"But some seed fell upon good soil and produced a great deal of fruit, thirty, sixty, even one-hundred times the original investment."
|Clear language of "increase"
|-
|9
|And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
|Then Jesus said to them, "let any man who has ears hear."
|
|-
|10
|And when he was alone, they that were about him with the twelve asked of him the parable.
|Privately a few along with the twelve Apostles asked Jesus about the parable.
|
|-
|11
|And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:
|He said to them, "You have been granted insight into the secrets of the Kingdom of God, but to others these things are done in parables,
|
|-
|12
|That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
|that they may see but not perceive and hear but not understand; otherwise they might convert, and then their sins would be forgiven."
|This verse, and the one preceding, is one of the earliest statements concerning the ''predestination'' and ''unconditional election'' of believers.
|-
|13
|And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye know all parables?
|Then He asked them, "Don't you understand this parable? If not, how will you understand any other parables?
|
|-
|14
|The sower soweth the word.
|"The farmer plants the Truth.
|
|-
|15
|And these are they by the way side, where the word is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word that was sown in their hearts.
|"As for the people who are on the roadside, where the seeds are scattered, Satan comes as soon they have heard the truth, and takes it from their hearts.
|
|-
|16
|And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word, immediately receive it with gladness;
|"Likewise with those planted on the stony ground: when they hear the Truth, they receive It with joy,
|
|-
|17
|And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.
|"But they have little deep-down understanding of It, so they endure in the Truth only briefly. Afterward, when they must face oppression persecution for the sake of the Truth, all at once they have doubts about It.
|"Root in themselves" made clearer for modern english readers.
|-
|18
|And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,
|"Then there are those planted among the thorns. They hear the word,
|
|-
|19
|And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.
|"But because of worldly concerns, the deceit of wealth, and other desires, the Truth is suffocated and cannot bear fruit."
|The "deceit of wealth" is not the having of wealth but the trusting in wealth as a primary sustainer.
|-
|20
|And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word, and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred.
|"Finally are those planted in good ground. They hear the Truth, accept It, and produce good fruit in their turn, sometimes thirty, sixty, or even one hundred times more."
|
|-
|21
|And he said unto them, Is a candle brought to be put under a bushel, or under a bed? and not to be set on a candlestick?
|Then he asked them, "Do we light candles only to hide them under a bushel basket or a bed, rather than to place them on candlesticks?
|The word rendered "bushel" is the Roman ''modius,'' the largest dry measure in use throughout the Roman Empire.
|-
|22
|For there is nothing hid, which shall not be manifested; neither was any thing kept secret, but that it should come abroad.
|"Nothing is hidden which will not be brought to light. Likewise any secret kept will soon become known.
|
|-
|23
|If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
|"If a man is willing to listen, let him hear the Truth."
|
|-
|24
|And he said unto them, Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.
|Then he said to them, "Be careful of what you listen to. Whichever measure you apply, you shall be measured accordingly, and those of you who listen will be given more."
|
|-
|25
|For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.
|"He who has will be given, while he doesn't will see that little which he has taken from him."
|
|-
|26
|And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
|"The kingdom of God is the same way. If someone sows seed on the ground,
|
|-
|27
|And should sleep, and rise night and day, and the seed should spring and grow up, he knoweth not how.
|"And goes to sleep and waits several days, plants will spring from the seeds, though he doesn't know how.
|
|-
|28
|For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, then the ear, after that the full corn in the ear.
|"Because it is the earth that brings forth the fruit: first a blade, then an ear of corn, then the corn itself."
|
|-
|29
|But when the fruit is brought forth, immediately he putteth in the sickle, because the harvest is come.
|"And when the fruit has been produced, he brings out the sickle and harvests his produce."
|
|-
|30
|And he said, Whereunto shall we liken the kingdom of God? or with what comparison shall we compare it?
|Then he said, "What will we say God's kingdom is like? What sort of metaphor will we use?
|Actually the Greek uses the word ''parable'', which is a metaphorical story.
|-
|31
|It is like a grain of mustard seed, which, when it is sown in the earth, is less than all the seeds that be in the earth:
|It's like a single mustard seed, which is smaller than all other seeds on earth when placed in the ground,
|
|-
|32
|But when it is sown, it groweth up, and becometh greater than all herbs, and shooteth out great branches; so that the fowls of the air may lodge under the shadow of it.
|But once planted, it grows larger than all the other herbs and grows large branches, so the birds can shelter under its shadow."
|
|-
|33
|And with many such parables spake he the word unto them, as they were able to hear it.
|He used many parables like this one to preach God's word in a way that they could understand.
|Make clear that it's God's word, and that 'hear' means 'understand' in this context.
|-
|34
|But without a parable spake he not unto them: and when they were alone, he expounded all things to his disciples.
|But He never used parables when speaking to His own men. He explained everything to His own students.
|The Greek '''ιδιος''' means "one's own."
|-
|35
|And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side.
|Later that day, around sunset, He said to them: "Let's cross over to the opposite shore."
|Modernized word choices.
|-
|36
|And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.
|They dismissed the crowd, and then cast off in the boat where Jesus had been preaching, with Jesus still on board. Some other boats also went with them.
|'even as he was' needs some explanation for the modern reader.
|-
|37
|And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.
|Suddenly a fierce storm came, with strong winds. Waves started to break over the boat, so that it began to fill with water.
|Such squalls occur frequently on Lake Tiberias even today.
|-
|38
|And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?
|Jesus was sleeping on a cushion in the stern of the boat. They woke him saying, "Master, don't you care that we'll capsize and drown?"
|
|-
|39
|And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
|He got up and disapproved of the wind, and laid down the sea to an orderly and controlled state. The wind then stopped, and there was complete calm.
|This is often mistranslated as [[Jesus]] saying a command, when the more straightforward translation is consistent with [[quantum mechanics]]: it was his observation and [[faith]], not the spoken word, that ended the [[chaos]]. φιμόω: means to be kept in check, not a spoken command. Note that the similar descriptions in Matthew and Luke do not entail a spoken command.
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|40
|And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
|He asked them, "Why are you so afraid? Why haven't you any [[faith]]?"
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|41
|And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey him?
|Filled with awe, they asked each other: "What kind of Man is He, such that even the wind and sea obey Him?
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|}

==Chapter 5==

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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
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|1
|And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
|They reached the other side of the lake, which was in the region where the Gadarenes lived.
|Most manuscripts say "Gerasenes," which is an alternative name for these people. They were the descendants of [[Gad]], one of the twelve sons of [[Jacob]].
|-
|2
|And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
|As Jesus disembarked the boat, he was immediately confronted by a possessed man,
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|3
|Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
|who was homeless and slept in a cemetery; no man had the strength to restrain him, not even with chains:
|avoid feminist style of seeking gender neutrality by replacing "man" with "one"; the reference is obviously to men not being able to restrain him, not to women
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|4
|Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
|Many times, he had been restrained by leg irons and chains, but he had thrown off the chains and broken the leg irons to pieces. No man could control him.
|The word originally rendered "fetters" means "leg irons."
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|5
|And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
|Day and night he roamed the mountains and tombs, crying out and cutting himself with stones.
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|6
|But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
|But when he glimpsed Jesus at a distance, he ran up to Him and fell down at His feet.
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|-
|7
|And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
|He cried out loudly, "What business do I have with You, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you in God's name not to torment me."
|The Greek word '''υψιστος''' (''hypsistos'') literally means "highest."
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|8
|For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
|Because Jesus had proclaimed, "Get out of that man, evil spirit."
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|9
|And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
|Jesus asked him, "What is your name?" He answered, "My name is 'Legion', because we are many."
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|10
|And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
|He begged Jesus not to expel him from the region.
|The Greek word '''χωρα''', meaning "country," does not mean a nation-state. If Mark had meant that, he would have used the word '''βασιλεια''', or "kingdom."
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|11
|Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
|Near the mountains where they were, a large herd of pigs was feeding.
|Pigs more modern than archaic swine
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|12
|And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
|The demons all begged Jesus, "Send us to the pigs, so that we may possess them."
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|13
|And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
|Jesus then granted the demons the permission they sought. The demons left the man and possessed the pigs, and the herd rand violently down a steep embankment to drown in the sea, all two thousand of them.
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|-
|14
|And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
|Those in charge of the pigs fled and told everyone in the town and countryside. People then went to see for themselves what had happened.
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|-
|15
|And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
|They saw Jesus and the man formerly possessed, who was in his right mind and sitting peacefully, fully dressed; the people became afraid upon seeing him.
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|16
|And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
|Witnesses to the episode described for the people what had happened to the possessed man, and about the pigs.
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|17
|And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
|The terrified people began to plead that Jesus leave their area.
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|18
|And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
|When Jesus got back aboard His boat, the man who had been possessed begged Jesus to let him join His company.
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|-
|19
|Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
|Instead, Jesus told him, "Return home to your friends, and tell them how the Lord has done wonders for you with compassion."
|In contrast to the usual instructions that Jesus gives, He asks the Gadarene to tell everyone he meets what happened to him. This might be because the Gadarene region was opposite Lake Tiberias from Jerusalem.
|-
|20
|And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.
|So the man left and began speaking publicly in Decapolis about Jesus's great works for him, and everyone who heard the story was very much amazed.
|The Greek word '''θαυμαζομαι''' (''thaumadzomai'') connotes the "Wow!" degree of amazement.
|-
|21
|And when Jesus was passed over again by ship unto the other side, much people gathered unto him: and he was nigh unto the sea.
|A huge crowd was awaiting Jesus on the opposite coast as he crossed by boat, so He stayed on the seashore.
|
|-
|22
|And, behold, there cometh one of the rulers of the synagogue, Jairus by name; and when he saw him, he fell at his feet,
|One of the leaders of the synagogue, named Jairus, joined the crowd. When he saw Jesus, he threw himself at His feet,
|The usual Greek word '''ιδου''' ("Look!" or "Behold!") does not appear in the original.
|-
|23
|And besought him greatly, saying, My little daughter lieth at the point of death: I pray thee, come and lay thy hands on her, that she may be healed; and she shall live.
|and begged Him urgently, saying "My little daughter is dying. Please come and put Your hands on her, so that she will be healed; and then she will live."
|The Greek idiomatic phrase '''εσχατως εχω''' (''eschatos echo'', "I finally have") is best translated as "I am dying."
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|24
|And Jesus went with him; and much people followed him, and thronged him.
|Jesus accompanied him; many people followed Jesus, pressing Him on all sides.
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|-
|25
|And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years,
|One woman who had suffered from hemorrhages for twelve years,
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|-
|26
|And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,
|and had suffered further from mistreatments by doctors, having spent all she had on them without any improvement; her condition even worsened.
|The "mistreatments" referred to here are conventional therapies that did more harm than good.
|-
|27
|When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment.
|When she heard about Jesus she crowded behind Him and touched his clothes,
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|-
|28
|For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole.
|Because as she had said, "If I can just touch His clothes, I will be made well."
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|-
|29
|And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague.
|Instantly the hemorrhages ceased, and she felt cured of her illness.
|
|-
|30
|And Jesus, immediately knowing in himself that virtue had gone out of him, turned him about in the press, and said, Who touched my clothes?
|Jesus immediately realized that power had discharged from him, and turned to the pressing crowd to say, "Who touched my clothes?"
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|31
|And his disciples said unto him, Thou seest the multitude thronging thee, and sayest thou, Who touched me?
|His students replied, "You see the huge crowd pressing against you, and yet you ask, 'Who touched me'"?
|The astonishment of His students is self-evident.
|-
|32
|And he looked round about to see her that had done this thing.
|Jesus turned and scanned the crowd to find her.
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|-
|33
|But the woman fearing and trembling, knowing what was done in her, came and fell down before him, and told him all the truth.
|But the terrified, trembling woman, aware of the miracle, came and bowed at Jesus's feet, and told him the entire truth.
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|-
|34
|And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague.
|Jesus said to her: "Daughter, your faith has saved you. Go with peace of mind, and live a life free from that terrible disease."
|The actual Greek phrase is "saved you," not "made you well."
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|35
|While he yet spake, there came from the ruler of the synagogue's house certain which said, Thy daughter is dead: why troublest thou the Master any further?
|While Jesus was speaking, people told the synagogue leader, "Your daughter has died. Why bother this teacher any more?"
|
|-
|36
|As soon as Jesus heard the word that was spoken, he saith unto the ruler of the synagogue, Be not afraid, only believe.
|But as soon as Jesus heard about this, he said to the father, "Don't be afraid; only believe."
|
|-
|37
|And he suffered no man to follow him, save Peter, and James, and John the brother of James.
|Jesus then allowed no one to follow Him, except Peter, James, and James' brother John.
|
|-
|38
|And he cometh to the house of the ruler of the synagogue, and seeth the tumult, and them that wept and wailed greatly.
|He came to the synagogue leader's home, and saw the mourning, and all those who wept and cried enormously.
|
|-
|39
|And when he was come in, he saith unto them, Why make ye this ado, and weep? the damsel is not dead, but sleepeth.
|When Jesus entered the house, he said to them, "What is the reason for all this uproar and crying? The girl is not dead - she's just asleep!"
|The mourners were in fact exaggerating, as was the custom of the day.
|-
|40
|And they laughed him to scorn. But when he had put them all out, he taketh the father and the mother of the damsel, and them that were with him, and entereth in where the damsel was lying.
|They laughed and ridiculed him. But after he evicted them all, he took the girl's mother and father with Him and His three students to where she was lying,
|
|-
|41
|And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise.
|and taking her by the hand, said, "''talitha cumi''", which means "girl, I tell you to rise."
|
|-
|42
|And straightway the damsel arose, and walked; for she was of the age of twelve years. And they were astonished with a great astonishment.
|Immediately the 12-year-old girl got up and walked. The onlookers were positively astounded.
|In Greek (and also in Hebrew), repetition is sometimes done for emphasis, as in this case.
|-
|43
|And he charged them straitly that no man should know it; and commanded that something should be given her to eat.
|Jesus gave them strict orders not to tell anyone what had happened, and then commanded that the girl should be given something to eat.
|
|}

==Chapter 6==

{| class="wikitable"
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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|And he went out from thence, and came into his own country; and his disciples follow him.
|Jesus then traveled home, followed by his students.
|
|-
|2
|And when the sabbath day was come, he began to teach in the synagogue: and many hearing him were astonished, saying, From whence hath this man these things? and what wisdom is this which is given unto him, that even such mighty works are wrought by his hands?
|On the next Sabbath, Jesus began teaching in the synagogue. Many were amazed, and declared, "How does this Man know so much? What kind of wisdom has been given to Him, enabling Him to perform such wonderful deeds?
|The Greek word '''εκπλησομαι''' (''ekplesomai'', I am amazed) typically stands for a mild sort of amazement, something less than "Wow!"
|-
|3
|Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.
|Isn't this the carpenter we know, the son of Mary, the brother of James, Joseph, Judah and Simon? Don't we also know his sisters here?" So the public rejected Him.
|The Greek idiom '''σκανδαλιζομαι εν''' (skandalidzomai en) with the dative case means "I reject someone," or "I have doubts about someone."
|-
|4
|But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, but in his own country, and among his own kin, and in his own house.
|Jesus replied to their complaints, "A prophet lacks honor only in his own hometown, among his neighbors and in his own home."
|avoid compound negative
|-
|5
|And he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands upon a few sick folk, and healed them.
|Jesus was unable to perform any marvelous works in that area, except for healing a few sick people by laying His hands on them.
|His power might have been withheld because the people lacked faith in Him. Usually, if Jesus does a miraculous favor for someone, that someone previously believed that He could do it.
|-
|6
|And he marvelled because of their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.
|He was in fact shocked at their lack of faith. He traveled around the villages in that area, teaching the people who lived there.
|Emphasize faith; superb use of [[faith]] here!
|-
|7
|And he called unto him the twelve, and began to send them forth by two and two; and gave them power over unclean spirits;
|He gathered the Twelve, and began to send them out in pairs, giving them the power to cast out evil spirits.
|The phrase ''pneumatoi acathartoi'' stands primarily for Satan's minions.
|-
|8
|And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse:
|He instructed them to take only a walking stick, and to bring nothing else: no bag, no bread, and no money in their belts,
|The Greek word used, '''χαλκον''' (''chalcon'') actually means small change, like the loose change that a modern Westerner keeps in his trouser pockets.
|-
|9
|But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats.
|and to wear only sandals, and not to wear two coats.
|
|-
|10
|And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.
|He told them, "Whichever house you stay in while in a town, stay there until you leave that town.
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|-
|11
|And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear you, when ye depart thence, shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
|"And if anyone will not take you in or listen to you, when leaving them, shake the dust from under your feet as an indictment against their conduct. I tell you truly, the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah will fare better on the day of judgment than that city."
|The "shaking of dust from the shoes" was a ritual in which a man took off his shoes and clapped them together.
|-
|12
|And they went out, and preached that men should repent.
|Thus they went among the towns, preaching repentance.
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|-
|13
|And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
|There they cast out many demons, anointed the ill with oil, and healed them of their afflictions.
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|-
|14
|And king Herod heard of him; (for his name was spread abroad): and he said, That John the Baptist was risen from the dead, and therefore mighty works do shew forth themselves in him.
|The tetrarch, [[Herod Antipas]], heard news of this, as word of Jesus had spread fast and far. It was said that he was [[John the Baptist]] had risen from the dead, and miraculous powers were shown in his works.
|The impersonal construction is present in the best manuscripts. Why the Byzantine manuscripts use "He said" rather than "it was said" is unclear.
|-
|15
|Others said, That it is Elias. And others said, That it is a prophet, or as one of the prophets.
|Others rumored that he was [[Elijah]], while others still called him a [[prophet]] like those of the [[Old Testament]].
|"The prophets" was known to the audience of the time as the OT prophets, but this should be made clear to the modern reader.
|-
|16
|But when Herod heard thereof, he said, It is John, whom I beheaded: he is risen from the dead.
|Herod succumbed to the rumors and opined, "He is John, who I had murdered, back from the dead."
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|-
|17
|For Herod himself had sent forth and laid hold upon John, and bound him in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife: for he had married her.
|For it had been Herod who had sent his men to capture and imprison John on account of his brother Philip's wife, Herodias, who he had married.
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|-
|18
|For John had said unto Herod, It is not lawful for thee to have thy brother's wife.
|John used to tel Herod, "It is against the law for you to marry your brother's wife."
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|-
|19
|Therefore Herodias had a quarrel against him, and would have killed him; but she could not:
|And so Herodias was hostile to John, and she would have killed him had she been able.
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|-
|20
|For Herod feared John, knowing that he was a just man and an holy, and observed him; and when he heard him, he did many things, and heard him gladly.
|Herod actually was afraid of John, realizing that he was a just and holy man, and followed John's preaching closely. Herod couldn't always understand what John said, but he was glad to listen.
|The better manuscripts are necessary to clarify the meaning.
|-
|21
|And when a convenient day was come, that Herod on his birthday made a supper to his lords, high captains, and chief estates of Galilee;
|So Herodias waited for her opportunity, which came on Herod's birthday when he had a feast for his noblemen, ranking army officers, and high-ranking officials in Galilee.
|The Greek word '''χιλιαρχος''' (''chiliarchos'') means literally "leader of a thousand," therefore a Roman tribune or officer of similar rank in another army.
|-
|22
|And when the daughter of the said Herodias came in, and danced, and pleased Herod and them that sat with him, the king said unto the damsel, Ask of me whatsoever thou wilt, and I will give it thee.
|Herodias's daughter entered the room and danced, so pleasing Herod and his guests that the king exclaimed to the little girl, "Ask me whatever you like, and I will grant it!"
|The Greek '''κορασιον''' is typically translated simply as "girl" or "damsel",<ref>See talk page.</ref> and in fact means a girl who is not even a teen-ager.<ref>Definition of '''κορασιον''' in the Oxford Pocket Greek-English Dictionary</ref> The spectacle of a pre-adolescent girl dancing lewdly in front of a bunch of leering adult men ought to convince anyone of the immoral overtones of this scene.
|-
|23
|And he sware unto her, Whatsoever thou shalt ask of me, I will give it thee, unto the half of my kingdom.
|And he swore to her, "I will give you whatever you want from me, up to half of my kingdom."
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|-
|24
|And she went forth, and said unto her mother, What shall I ask? And she said, The head of John the Baptist.
|She went to ask her mother, "What should I ask for?" Her mother replied, "The head of John the Baptist."
|The use of quotes makes the phrase easier to understand.
|-
|25
|And she came in straightway with haste unto the king, and asked, saying, I will that thou give me by and by in a charger the head of John the Baptist.
|So she returned quickly to the tetrarch and responded, "I want John the Baptist's head on a platter."
|Herod Antipas' title was, of course, Tetrarch of Galilee. The Greek word rendered "charger" is actually a large platter.
|-
|26
|And the king was exceeding sorry; yet for his oath's sake, and for their sakes which sat with him, he would not reject her.
|Herod was very sorry. But because he had taken an oath and faced embarrassment in front of his guests if he declined, he complied.
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|-
|27
|And immediately the king sent an executioner, and commanded his head to be brought: and he went and beheaded him in the prison,
|The king immediately sent an executioner, ordering him to bring John the Baptist's head. The executioner went to the prison and beheaded him.
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|28
|And brought his head in a charger, and gave it to the damsel: and the damsel gave it to her mother.
|The executioner brought the head on a platter and gave it to the little girl, who gave it to her mother.
|See notes to verse 22 above.
|-
|29
|And when his disciples heard of it, they came and took up his corpse, and laid it in a tomb.
|When John's students heard what had happened, they came and claimed his body and placed it in a tomb.
|
|-
|30
|And the apostles gathered themselves together unto Jesus, and told him all things, both what they had done, and what they had taught.
|The Apostles gathered around Jesus and told him about all the things they had done and what they had taught.
|
|-
|31
|And he said unto them, Come ye yourselves apart into a desert place, and rest a while: for there were many coming and going, and they had no leisure so much as to eat.
|Jesus told them, "Come with me privately to a desert place and rest". Because there were so many people coming and going, the apostles had not even had time to eat.
|The land was "desert" all around, but the use of "desert place" becomes appropriate in view of what happens next.
|-
|32
|And they departed into a desert place by ship privately.
|They sailed in a boat to a desert place to meet in private.
|
|-
|33
|And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
|When people saw them leaving, many of them recognized Jesus, so they hurried from their cities and got there before Jesus and the apostles did. The people crowded around Jesus when he arrived.
|
|-
|34
|And Jesus, when he came out, saw much people, and was moved with compassion toward them, because they were as sheep not having a shepherd: and he began to teach them many things.
|When Jesus got out of the boat He saw the large crowd of people, and felt sorry for them, because they reminded Him of a flock of sheep without a shepherd. So He started to teach them many things.
|
|-
|35
|And when the day was now far spent, his disciples came unto him, and said, This is a desert place, and now the time is far passed:
|But when the day was nearly over, His students approached Jesus and said, "We're in the middle of nowhere and it is going to get dark.
|quotation continues to next verse; it must have been "getting dark" yet so the phrasing is this way
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|36
|Send them away, that they may go into the country round about, and into the villages, and buy themselves bread: for they have nothing to eat.
|"Send this crowd into the surrounding villages in order to buy themselves bread to eat."
|
|-
|37
|He answered and said unto them, Give ye them to eat. And they say unto him, Shall we go and buy two hundred pennyworth of bread, and give them to eat?
|Jesus replied "You should give them something to eat," and the students asked Him, "Should we go and spend two hundred shillings and buy some bread for them to eat?"
|The "shilling" is the Roman ''denarius'', which in fact was a day's wages for most men in the period.
|-
|38
|He saith unto them, How many loaves have ye? go and see. And when they knew, they say, Five, and two fishes.
|Jesus answered, "How many loaves do you have? Go check." After the students found out, they told him that they had five loaves of bread and two fish.
|
|-
|39
|And he commanded them to make all sit down by companies upon the green grass.
|Jesus told them to have everyone sit in groups on the grass.
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|40
|And they sat down in ranks, by hundreds, and by fifties.
|After they did, everyone sat down in long rows, of fifty or a hundred people.
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|-
|41
|And when he had taken the five loaves and the two fishes, he looked up to heaven, and blessed, and brake the loaves, and gave them to his disciples to set before them; and the two fishes divided he among them all.
|When Jesus had the five loaves and two fish, he looked to heaven, blessed the food, and broke the loaves. He gave them to His students to feed the people, and split the two fish among everyone.
|
|-
|42
|And they did all eat, and were filled.
|After everyone was finished eating, they were all full.
|
|-
|43
|And they took up twelve baskets full of the fragments, and of the fishes.
|The students picked up twelve small baskets full of crumbs and the leftovers of fish.
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|44
|And they that did eat of the loaves were about five thousand men.
|Five thousand men had filled their stomachs on those two loaves of bread and five fish.
|
|-
|45
|And straightway he constrained his disciples to get into the ship, and to go to the other side before unto Bethsaida, while he sent away the people.
|Then Jesus had his students board their boat, to go to Bethsaida ahead of him, while he bid the people farewell.
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|-
|46
|And when he had sent them away, he departed into a mountain to pray.
|After he sent the people away, he went to a mountain to pray.
|
|-
|47
|And when even was come, the ship was in the midst of the sea, and he alone on the land.
|In the evening, the students' boat was in the middle of the lake, and he remained on the land alone.
|
|-
|48
|And he saw them toiling in rowing; for the wind was contrary unto them: and about the fourth watch of the night he cometh unto them, walking upon the sea, and would have passed by them.
|He saw them rowing hard, since they were traveling into the wind: about the fourth watch of the night, he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, nearly passing it.
|"Fourth watch of the night" means between 3 AM and 6 AM.<ref>http://chestofbooks.com/reference/Facts-For-Everybody/Roman-Division-Of-Time.html</ref>
|-
|49
|But when they saw him walking upon the sea, they supposed it had been a spirit, and cried out:
|But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been a ghost, and cried out.
|
|-
|50
|For they all saw him, and were troubled. And immediately he talked with them, and saith unto them, Be of good cheer: it is I; be not afraid.
|They all saw Him, and were terrified. He spoke to them right away, and said, "Fear not, for I am. Do not be afraid."
|The "I am" is what the Greek says, and it mirrors Exodus 3:14 (God speaking from the burning bush) and John 8:58 (affirming Jesus's divinity).
|-
|51
|And he went up unto them into the ship; and the wind ceased: and they were sore amazed in themselves beyond measure, and wondered.
|He boarded the ship and the wind died down: they were very much amazed.
|The best manuscripts do not have the additional Greek word '''θαυμαζω'''.
|-
|52
|For they considered not the miracle of the loaves: for their heart was hardened.
|They had not understood the miracle of the loaves, because they had not opened their minds.
|The literal Greek phrase reads, "their heart was stubborn." The implication is simply that they were not yet ready to believe what they had seen.
|-
|53
|And when they had passed over, they came into the land of Gennesaret, and drew to the shore.
|After they crossed the lake, they came to the land of Gennesaret and pulled up to the shore.
|
|-
|54
|And when they were come out of the ship, straightway they knew him,
|When they had come off the boat, everyone immediately recognized Jesus.
|
|-
|55
|And ran through that whole region round about, and began to carry about in beds those that were sick, where they heard he was.
|They ran throughout the nearby area and carried all the sick people, in beds, to the place where Jesus was said to be.
|
|-
|56
|And whithersoever he entered, into villages, or cities, or country, they laid the sick in the streets, and besought him that they might touch if it were but the border of his garment: and as many as touched him were made whole.
|Wherever he went - villages, cities, or the countryside - people laid the sick in the streets, and begged Jesus to let them touch him, even just the edge of his coat. Everyone who touched him was healed.
|
|}

==Chapter 7==

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!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|Then came together unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the scribes, which came from Jerusalem.
|Jesus was approached by the Pharisees, and some of the scribes, who came from [[Jerusalem]].
|"who" rather than "which"; a rare flaw in the style of the [[KJV]] is its use of "which" and "that" to refer to persons
|-
|2
|And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault.
|They observed several of His students eating bread with ritually unclean, i.e., unwashed, hands, and used that to criticize Jesus.
|The Greek word used is '''κοινος''' (''koinos''), meaning "common." In fact the Pharisees suggested that hands that had not been ceremonially washed were ritually unclean, and chose an elitist metaphor ("common") to make their point.
|-
|3
|For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders.
|The reason for this was that the Pharisees, along with all the other Jews, had a tradition never to eat unless they had washed their hands.
|
|-
|4
|And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables.
|When they came from the public square, they did not eat unless they had washed first. They retained many other traditions, such as the washing of cups, pots, kettles, and tables.
|This is a small sample of the many ways in which the Pharisees sought to over-regulate and micro-manage Jewish life.
|-
|5
|Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?
|Then the Pharisees and the scribes asked Jesus, "Why don't your students follow the traditions of the elders, instead of eating bread with unwashed hands?"
|Again, the Pharisees use tradition as regulation, a regulation to which they give the force of written law.
|-
|6
|He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me.
|He responded to them, "[[Isaiah]] had you hypocrites dead to rights, when he wrote: 'These people speak respectful words to Me, by their hearts are not with Me.
|
|-
|7
|Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
|They worship Me in vain, and their teachings are nothing more than rules made by men.'
|
|-
|8
|For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
|After turning away from the law of God, you cling to the rules of mere men.
|The Byzantine manuscripts add the details about the cup and pot-washing regulations, but those are probably redundant interpolations.
|-
|9
|And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
|Isaiah also told them, 'You turn your backs on the commandment of God, in order to cling to your own customs.'
|Clarify the reference to Isaiah, which is ambiguous in most translations.
|-
|10
|For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
|For example: Moses said, 'Honor your father and mother; and whoever curses his father or mother should receive the death penalty';
|should outer quotations be added? Use the "death penalty"
|-
|11
|But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
|But you allow a man to say to his father or mother, 'Whatever help I might have given you was instead given to God as a temple offering,'
|difficult to translate; more improvement welcome; issue of outside quotations remains; Corban replaced by "temple offering"
|-
|12
|And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
|and excused him from helping his father or mother any further.
|The Greek phrase means "permit not to do" rather than "not permit to do." Thus, "excuse" is correct.
|-
|13
|Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.
|"You have made God's word and law useless with your tradition of revision, and many other actions like it."
|
|-
|14
|And when he had called all the people unto him, he said unto them, Hearken unto me every one of you, and understand:
|When Jesus had called the people together around him, he said, "Listen to me, each of you, and know the truth."
|
|-
|15
|There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.
|"Nothing outside a man can enter him and corrupt him. Instead, that which comes from within can corrupt him."
|Interesting as this is also a doctrine in Plato (see the apology). Was he inspired by God, or perhaps did Jesus know earlier doctrines?
|-
|16
|If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
|"So if anyone wishes to know the truth, let him listen."
|"ears to hear" denotes the open minded listener
|-
|17
|And when he was entered into the house from the people, his disciples asked him concerning the parable.
|Afterward, when he had left the people and entered the house, His students asked Him about the parable.
|
|-
|18
|And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Do ye not perceive, that whatsoever thing from without entereth into the man, it cannot defile him;
|To this he responded, "Are you also so ignorant? Don't you see that anything which enters a man from outside cannot corrupt him,"
|
|-
|19
|Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?
|"Because it enters his stomach, not his heart, and then is eliminated?"
|Literally, "gets thrown down the toilet."
|-
|20
|And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
|To this he added, "Anything that comes out of a man, it is that which corrupts him."
|
|-
|21
|For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
|"Because, from inside of the heart come evil thoughts, adultery, fornication, murder,"
|
|-
|22
|Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
|"theft, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lustfulness, an evil eye, blasphemy, uncontrolled pride, and foolishness."
|
|-
|23
|All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.
|"All of these wicked things come from inside a man and corrupt him."
|
|-
|24
|And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know it: but he could not be hid.
|Then He left that place, and traveled to the borders of [[Tyre]] and [[Sidon]]. He wanted to keep the place where He was staying a secret, but He had become so well-known that this was impossible.
|The Greek verb '''θελω''' (''thelo'') means "I want to do something." The "I will" construct is obsolete.
|-
|25
|For a certain woman, whose young daughter had an unclean spirit, heard of him, and came and fell at his feet:
|A woman whose daughter had been possessed by a demon heard the news of Him, came to Him and fell down before Him.
|
|-
|26
|The woman was a Greek, a Syrophenician by nation; and she besought him that he would cast forth the devil out of her daughter.
|She was Greek, a Syrophenician, and begged that he would throw the demon out of her daughter.
|
|-
|27
|But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled: for it is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it unto the dogs.
|Jesus replied to her, "The children must first be fed, for it is wrong to take their bread and cast it among the dogs."
|Especially since [[dog]]s were scavengers in those days, at least in that region, because they were chthonic or "bad-luck" animals.
|-
|28
|And she answered and said unto him, Yes, Lord: yet the dogs under the table eat of the children's crumbs.
|To this she answered, "Yes, Lord, but the dogs under the table can eat the children's crumbs."
|
|-
|29
|And he said unto her, For this saying go thy way; the devil is gone out of thy daughter.
|So Jesus replied, "Go on your way; you have proved your faith, and the demon has been cast out of your daughter."
|
|-
|30
|And when she was come to her house, she found the devil gone out, and her daughter laid upon the bed.
|When she returned to her home, she found that her daughter was lying upon her bed and Satan had left her.
|
|-
|31
|And again, departing from the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, he came unto the sea of Galilee, through the midst of the coasts of Decapolis.
|Leaving the coasts of Tyre and Sidon, Jesus reached Lake Tiberias, among the coasts of Decapolis.
|Sea->lake as per previous instances
|-
|32
|And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech; and they beseech him to put his hand upon him.
|The people brought him a deaf man with a speech impediment, praying that he would lay hands upon him.
|Some deaf people do try to speak, but because they cannot hear themselves talk, their speech is sometimes difficult for a hearing person to understand.
|-
|33
|And he took him aside from the multitude, and put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue;
|Jesus took him away privately from the crowd. He put his fingers into the man's ears, spit, then touched his tongue.
|
|-
|34
|And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened.
|Looking up to heaven, he sighed and said, "Ephphatha," which means "be opened."
|
|-
|35
|And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain.
|The man's ears were immediately opened, and the muscles of his tongue healed, letting him speak clearly and understandably.
|
|-
|36
|And he charged them that they should tell no man: but the more he charged them, so much the more a great deal they published it;
|Jesus ordered the people not to tell this story, but the more he ordered this, the more they spread the news.
|
|-
|37
|And were beyond measure astonished, saying, He hath done all things well: he maketh both the deaf to hear, and the dumb to speak.
|They were completely blown away, and said, "He has wielded great power in all things. He makes the deaf hear and the dumb speak."
|"Done all things well" has lost its emphatic meaning
|}

==Chapter 8==

{| class="wikitable"
|-
!Verse
!King James Version
!Proposed Conservative Translation
!Analysis
|-
|1
|In those days the multitude being very great, and having nothing to eat, Jesus called his disciples unto him, and saith unto them,
|The crowd that followed Jesus was enormous and had little to eat, so Jesus gathered His students and said,
|
|-
|2
|I have compassion on the multitude, because they have now been with me three days, and have nothing to eat:
|"I have great love and empathy for the people, who have been following Me for three days and now have nothing to eat."
|
|-
|3
|And if I send them away fasting to their own houses, they will faint by the way: for divers of them came from far.
|I am responsible for them, for if I send them away to their homes, they will collapse along the way, as many of them have come a great distance."
|Making the sentiment of responsibility clear.
|-
|4
|And his disciples answered him, From whence can a man satisfy these men with bread here in the wilderness?
|The students responded, "How can we feed these people bread out in the desert where food is scarce?"
|
|-
|5
|And he asked them, How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven.
|Jesus asked them, "how many loaves do you have?" They replied, "seven."
|
|-
|6
|And he commanded the people to sit down on the ground: and he took the seven loaves, and gave thanks, and brake, and gave to his disciples to set before them; and they did set them before the people.
|So he told the crowd to sit down, and taking the seven loaves and giving thanks unto God, he broke them and gave them to His students to distribute, and they did.
|
|-
|7
|And they had a few small fishes: and he blessed, and commanded to set them also before them.
|They also had a few small fish, which he also blessed and had distributed.
|Plural "fishes" antiquated
|-
|8
|So they did eat, and were filled: and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets.
|The people ate and were filled, and the students found that a surplus of seven large baskets of meat remained.
|The basket used at this feeding of the second multitude was larger than the one used at the first.
|-
|9
|And they that had eaten were about four thousand: and he sent them away.
|Four thousand people had eaten, and Jesus sent them on their way.
|
|-
|10
|And straightway he entered into a ship with his disciples, and came into the parts of Dalmanutha.
|Jesus went into a boat with the students and traveled into Dalmanutha.
|
|-
|11
|And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with him, seeking of him a sign from heaven, tempting him.
|The Pharisees came to Him and began to try to test Him with their questions, demanding a sign from heaven.
|
|-
|12
|And he sighed deeply in his spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek after a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation.
|In his soul he sighed deeply at their lack of faith, and he replied, "Why does this generation want a sign? I'll tell you the truth: you will not be given a sign."
|
|-
|13
|And he left them, and entering into the ship again departed to the other side.
|So he left them, returned to the boat and traveled across the lake.
|
|-
|14
|Now the disciples had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf.
|The students had neglected to bring bread on board, and had not so much as one loaf aboard.
|
|-
|15
|And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
|And Jesus warned them, "I caution you, beware of the yeast of the Pharisees and the yeast of Herod."
|"Yeast" is the modern translation of the Greek word '''ζυμης''' (''zymes'', whence "enzyme").
|-
|16
|And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no bread.
|They discussed this among themselves and decided, "He says this because we didn't bring bread."
|
|-
|17
|And when Jesus knew it, he saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened?
|And Jesus knew this and said, "Why do you think this is about bread? Do you still not perceive or understand the message? Have your minds been closed?"
|The "heart" in ancient culture was much more connected with reason, thought, and the mind than in present culture. The Greek idiom refers to stubborn refusal to believe, not deliberate rebellion.
|-
|18
|Having eyes, see ye not? and having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?
|"You have eyes and ears, but do you see, hear, or even remember?"
|
|-
|19
|When I brake the five loaves among five thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? They say unto him, Twelve.
|"When I distributed the five loaves among five thousand people, how many small baskets of remainders did you collect?" "Twelve."
|
|-
|20
|And when the seven among four thousand, how many baskets full of fragments took ye up? And they said, Seven.
|"And of the seven loaves given to the four thousand, how many large baskets remained?" "Seven."
|
|-
|21
|And he said unto them, How is it that ye do not understand?
|"Why do you still not understand?"
|
|-
|22
|And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him.
|Jesus arrived at Bethsaida, where people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
|
|-
|23
|And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought.
|Jesus took the hand of the blind man, and led him outside the village; Jesus spit on the man's eyes, and laid His hands upon him, asking if he could see.
|
|-
|24
|And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.
|The man looked up and declared, "I only see men that look like walking trees."
|The truth of this description of the initial perception of a blind man who suddenly sees was only confirmed nearly 2000 years later by modern ophthalmologists.
|-
|25
|After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.
|Jesus put His hands on the blind man's eyes again, and then told him to look up. The man's sight was restored, so that he could see every man around him clearly.
|Modernizing language.
|-
|26
|And he sent him away to his house, saying, Neither go into the town, nor tell it to any in the town.
|Jesus sent him home and told him, "Do not enter the village or tell anyone there about this."
|The "or tell anyone there about this" is missing from some ancient manuscripts, but it is consistent with Jesus's concern.
|-
|27
|And Jesus went out, and his disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way he asked his disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am?
|Jesus and the students then went to the towns around Caesarea Philippi, and while walking He asked them, "Whom do men say that I am?"
|avoid emasculation of "men" as "people" or other gender neutral term
|-
|28
|And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets.
|The students replied, "'[[John the Baptist]].' But some say '[[Elijah]]', and others say, 'One of the [[prophets]].'"
|
|-
|29
|And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.
|And He asked, "Who do you say I am?" to which Peter answered, "you are Christ."
|
|-
|30
|And he charged them that they should tell no man of him.
|And He told them not to tell anyone about his true nature.
|
|-
|31
|And he began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be rejected of the elders, and of the chief priests, and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again.
|He taught them of things that must pass, that the Son of Man would suffer great trials, be rejected by the elders, the leading priests, and the scribes, and would be killed, only to rise again to life in three days time.
|
|-
|32
|And he spake that saying openly. And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him.
|He said this openly, but Peter took him aside and began to protest.
|
|-
|33
|But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
|But Jesus turned and, looking at His students, rebuffed Peter. "Begone, Satan. You aren't thinking about Godly things, but the things of men."
|
|-
|34
|And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
|Then calling the people to Himself and the students, Jesus said, "Anyone who wants to follow Me must lay aside all thought for himself, pick up his cross, and follow Me.
|An expression of total commitment, no turning back, and being pepared to die if necessary.
|-
|35
|For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
|For he who seeks to save his life will lose it, while anyone persecuted to death for the sake of myself and the gospels will be saved.
|
|-
|36
|For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
|For what good is it for a man to win the whole world if he condemns his soul?
|
|-
|37
|Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
|Or What will a man pay in exchange for his soul?
|
|-
|38
|Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
|If anyone is ashamed of Me or My teaching to this adulterous, sinful generation, I, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when I return with the glory of My Father and His Holy Messengers."
|The word '''αγγελος''' (''angelos'') means "messenger" and described what the [[angel]]s were.
|}

[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)]]

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Cockcroft and Walton Experiment

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Helen Keller

2013-01-23T23:56:20Z

DouglasA: Reverted edits by RobertDW (talk) to last revision by DouglasA

'''Helen Keller''' (1880 - 1968) is famous as a blind and deaf person who was able to overcome her handicaps through the devoted work of [[Anne Sullivan]], her teacher and eventual life-long friend. Her blindness and deafness were caused by an illness early in her childhood. The story of her relationship with Sullivan was recorded in the ''The Miracle Worker'' both as a play and later as a motion picture.

At first attending schools for the deaf and blind, Keller went on to graduate from college with high honors. As Keller learned to live with her handicaps and excel, she went on to speak at events supporting social causes including "rights" for the handicapped and [[feminism|women's "rights".]] Politically she was on the far left and supported [[socialism]].

She was a founding member of the [[ACLU]], and was close personal friends with [[Margaret Sanger]], the founder of [[Planned Parenthood]]. So Keller did indeed endorse [[eugenics]] and the [[Abortion|killing]] of the unborn.

What liberal revisionist history doesn't teach that Keller became an extreme and often frightening radical later in her life; then again, liberal professors [[Professor Values|agree with her sentiments]]. With words that could have come out of the mouth of [[Fidel Castro]] or [[Che Guevara]], she went on record as saying "I am not for peace at all hazards. I regret this war ([[World War I]]), but I have never regretted the blood of the thousands spilled during the [[French Revolution]]". <ref>http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/keller-helen/works/1910s/16_01_16.htm</ref>

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Globalism

2013-01-23T23:55:41Z

DouglasA:

'''Globalism''' is the failed [[liberal]] [[authoritarian]] desire for a "one world" view that rejects the important role of nations in protecting values and encouraging productivity. Globalism is anti-American in encouraging Americans to adopt a "world view" rather than an "American view."

According to the Oxford American Dictionary, '''globalism''' is the advocacy of "the interpretation or planning of economic and foreign policy in relation to events and developments throughout the world." In its most extreme forms it is sometimes expressed using terms such as "one world," support for a single world government, and/or terms such as "world citizen" or "global citizen." Some globalist groups such as the World Federalist Movement, and some non-Christian religions such as [[Bahai]], actively campaign for world government. "Global" is a currently fashionable term in [[business]], where the term "international" would be more appropriate usage; the term "international" implies business operations between a few countries, while "global" implies worldwide business, making it an adequate term for some forms of business that do operate across the world. Many aspects of globalism fall under the umbrella of [[globalization]], which refers to how local phenomena can become global phenomena.

The term "global" looks at the world as a single cohesive unit while the term "international" better recognizes the world's different countries, different cultures, different languages, different ethnicities, and national borders. Thus the two terms are not the same thing and using them interchangeably is often incorrect; however, it should be noted that the two are not mutually exclusive.

Globalism also involves the theory of a "global economy" in which the economic achievements of most if not all nations are interdependent with those of other nations around the world because of international trade. This is possible because of recent technological inventions such as the internet. For example, a farmer in [[Ghana]] can now be insured that he is payed the standard market price for a particular crop because of the standards set in Chicago which he can check with a telephone or internet connection.

Bhagwati (2004) explains how globalization has delivered a better standard of living in less developed countries, and how experiments with protectionist "import substitution" policies have systematically failed. he demonstrates that anti-globalism comprises a discontented brew of anti-capitalism, anti-corporatism, and anti-Americanism. His case that globalization has benefited the poor uses a two-step argument: trade enhances economic growth, and growth reduces poverty. He contrasts the failure of protectionism to deliver prosperity in post-colonial India and other countries with the progress and development in East Asia and other more outward-oriented countries. The growth spurred by globalization has not only expanded the pie but has done so in a way that is "socially benign" and possesses "a human face," says Bhagwati. Bhagwati refutes the liberal argument — heard frequently in the Democratic primary debates — that the U.S. must impose labor and environmental standards on poor countries in any future trade agreements. On the contrary, he shows that U.S. multinationals do not seek out less developed countries with low standards; instead they locate most of their affiliates in other high-wage, high-standard countries, and when they do invest in poor countries, they invariably pay wages and maintain standards far above those prevailing in the local economy. The result is not a "race to the bottom," but a race to the top. An inescapable implication is that if the Democrats succeed in withholding U.S. trade and investment from poor countries because they are poor, it will mean slower growth in those countries: fewer girls studying in school, and more working in farms, factories, and brothels.<ref> See the [http://www.nationalreview.com/books/griswold200406010921.asp review by Daniel T. Griswold, "The Road to Wealth," ''National Review'' April 19, 2004]</ref>
==Quotations==
*There are four distinct dimensions of globalism: [[economic]], [[military]], [[environmental]] — and [[social]]. [http://www.theglobalist.com/StoryId.aspx?StoryId=2392]
*Globalization implies neither equity — nor homogenization. In fact, it is equally likely to amplify differences — or at least make people more aware of them. [ibid]
*On the United Nations: Large majorities approve of strengthening the United Nations by giving it the power to have its own standing [[peacekeeping]] force, regulate the international arms trade and investigate [[human rights]] abuses. [http://www.infowars.net/articles/june2007/250607study.htm]

==Further reading==
* Jagdish Bhagwati, ''In Defense of Globalization'' (2004)

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Causes of Homosexuality

2013-01-23T23:53:21Z

DouglasA: /* Idolatry and judgment */ I saw this painting in the flesh!

[[File:70810564 64d3a67932.jpg|alt=Causes of homosexuality|right|275px|thumb|Homosexuality is rare in [[Orthodox Judaism|Orthodox Jews]]. For more information please see: [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality]].]]

The '''causes of [[homosexuality]]''' are attributable to man's sinful nature, nurture, environment, lack of a relationship with God, and personal choice. How important each factor is, though, is an issue that is debated. Those from the most [[liberal]] school usually assume a philosophy of determinism, treating homosexuality as an identity or orientation which one has no choice over, and which cannot be changed. This belief is then used to justify acting it out.<ref>Sylvia Thorson-Smith, ''Reconciling the broken silence'', p. 30</ref> The contrasting and warranted position is that homosexuality is a choice, that of yielding to ultimately harmful desires, and which choice is partly affected by nurture and environment.

==Causes of homosexuality - Biblical explanation ==

The [[Bible]], being the most comprehensive transcendent moral authority, abundantly deals with human nature and behavior and consistently manifests that the nature of man has not changed since [[the Fall]]. So the Bible is certainly the preeminent authoritative source when it comes to providing a framework when determining the causes of homosexuality. Man is shown to have been created as a perfectly made being (Gn. 1:31) - yet not as a robot - but as a being designed to be able to make choices, which thereby allowed him to distort his perfection. God from the beginning also joined male and female in life-long marriage, and placed a priority on the family, and provided laws, as needed, for its health and preservation and that of society, while aberrations result from failure to abide by them. ''For more information please see:'' [[Homosexuality and the Bible]] and [[Homosexuality and biblical interpretation]]''

===Nature of man and causes of homosexuality ===
In the beginning, man disobeyed his Creator, and as part of the punishment for so doing both mankind and that which he was given stewardship of was negatively affected. In addition to physical decay and the suffering and natural death of living creatures being introduced into the world, (Gn. 2:17; 3:17-19; Rm. 5:12,17; 6:23; ) the Fall resulted in the nature of man demonstrating a certain proclivity to sin. However, this does not determine that a man must practice a certain sin, nor does it justify man giving into this attraction to sin, as God also gave man ability to resist sin. (Gn. 4:7)<ref>http://www.sbts.edu/documents/tschreiner/Homosexuality.pdf</ref>

Certain negative physical effects of sin are also seen as being progressive, as with time more diseases and other aberrations seemed to have occurred, and laws against incest later became necessary. In addition, as men continued to act contrary to the basic moral laws which they knew innately and through creation, conscience and oral tradition, a formal body of law was given through [[Moses]], which detailed and codified the immutable morality God enjoins upon man. (Ex. 20; Dt. 4:8,9; Lv. 18; Gal. 3:19) Addition laws include ceremonial laws which the [[New Testament]] reveals were typological. ''For more information please see:'' [[Leviticus 18]].''

As regards homosexuality, from the beginning of the Bible and throughout, it consistently teaches that God only sexually joined opposite genders together, sanctifying them in marriage, having created men and women uniquely compatible and complementary.(Gn. 2:18-24; Mt. 19:4; 1Cor. 11:8-12)<ref>http://www.cbmw.org/Articles/</ref>

In contrast to what God had ordained by design and decree, homosexuality is one of many sins which are a result of man yielding to his sinful nature, and is a form of fornication, although a most perverse kind. The prohibition of it is given along with sexual relations with animals, (Lv. 18:23) and is clearly condemned wherever it is manifestly dealt with. (Lv. 18:22; 20:13; Mk. 7:21; Rm. 1:20-27; 1Cor. 6:9; 1Tim. 1:10)

The Bible, as well as history, also evidences that while there are three areas in which man sins, those of lust for pleasure, possessions and power, (1Jn. 2:16) individuals may differ as regards which type of sins present the greatest temptation for them, with genetics playing at least a part in that. That judgment upon a people who gave into a specific sin could result in a genetic predisposition to that same sin among their offspring may be speculated, but it is not proven.

===Environment===

The Bible provides a clear link between the adherence of a family or a nation to the laws of God and the moral choices of offspring. (Prov. 22:6) The Bible also positively examples close father-son and familial relationships, and may be seen to partially implicate detachment with rebellion. (Gn. 37-50; 2 Sam. 13-18) Studies today have shown that [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality|religious upbringing and culture can strongly affect rates of homosexuality]].

The record of [[Sodom]], as well as accounts of nations elsewhere, testify that living within the environment of people where [[iniquity]] abounds is conducive to furthering the same iniquity among succeeding generations, resulting in the necessity of Divine judgment when nations became given over to such. (Lv. 18:24; 20:22; Dt. 18:12; 28; Jer. 14:9,10; Rm. 2:2)

In Genesis 19, the city of Sodom is revealed as a place in which men sexually lusted after men, from which the term "sodomy" was derived (like as homosexuals use the term "gay", although this is contradictory in the end), and Jude 7 refers to Sodom and its region being given to fornication, including that of unnatural relations.

In Ezekiel 16:49 the general iniquity of Sodom and its "sisters" is given as "pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness" and general indifference to the needy. The next verse proceeds to inform that "the Sodomites were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good." The word for ''abomination'' here is ''tô‛êbah'', which is not the word often used for ritual uncleanness, but is often used for sexual sin, in particular sexual sins and including sodomy. (Lv.18:22; 26-27,29,30; 20:13; Dt. 23:18; 24:4 1Ki. 14:24; Ezek. 22:11; 33:26) Sodom is also associated more with sexual sins than with any other ''physical'' type of sin.

What the Bible, as well as secular history, reveals is that prevalent homosexuality is concomitant with pride, affluence, increased free time, and selfish indulgence and carelessness.<ref>[http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html Homosexual relations and the Bible: see Genesis 19 to Ezekiel 16:49]</ref> Therefore, rebellion against God's laws and order and the resultant environmental factors are seen to be a cause in promoting sensuality and homosexuality.

===Idolatry and judgment===
[[Image:Martin destruction sodom640x422.jpg|thumbnail|300px|right|Destruction of [[Sodom]] by [[God]] - [[Benjamin Martin]]]]

In [[Romans 1]], God, through the [[apostle Paul]], condemns both male and female homoeroticism, which, as a cultural practice, is shown to be a manifestation and a result of idolatry, in which man progressively acted contrary to that which God has revealed by creation, by design and normality. This is morality which is confirmed by written decree (the Law), as the next chapter declares. As a result of this continued rebellion, which was partly manifest in God being reduced to an image like unto corruptible creatures (like as today with homosexuals construing Christ to be homosexual, or sanctioning it, as well as nature effectively being worshiped), "God gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves." (v. 24)

It is also stated that a certain afflictive punishment(s) of the body were incurred by those men who engaged in relations with each other. (v. 27) Unless repentance takes place, worse consequences will follow. (Rv. 21:28)

While some seek to render this chapter as only condemning homosexual relations when done as part of idolatry, the condemnation is not due to its association with paganism, rather as it inherently contrary to that which God ordained, then it is a manifestation of false religion, regardless of its form, though in ancient times in which religion was an inseparable part of culture, then formal idolatry was what was more manifested. Romans 1 proceeds to show that homosexuality is not alone as a fruit of idolatry, but that this particular pernicious physical sin is one of many inherently evil things. (Rm. 1:28-32) ''For more information please see:'' [[Romans 1]].

In summary, God's eternal power is manifest in His [[creation]] (Romans 1:18-20). Nonetheless, certain people chose to worship the creature more than the Creator (Romans 1:21-25). Therefore, God gave them up to homosexuality and other sins and gave them over to a reprobate mind (Romans 1:26-32). As an example of the truth of this teaching, [[feminist]]s, wishing to deny the [[Women#New_Testament_statements_on_the_role_of_women|God-given role of women]], often engage in [[goddess]] worship and other forms of [[idolatry]]<ref>[http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/goddess.html "Probe Ministries: Goddess Worship," by Russ Wise]</ref> and as a consequence are often given up to lesbianism.<ref>[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56458 Hetero woman: Feminism turned me into a lesbian], from [[WorldNetDaily]]</ref>

=== Conclusion of Biblical explanation ===

What is revealed in the Bible is that homosexuality is a practice due to man yielding to his sinful nature and disobeying the good laws of God, and misusing, among other things, his sexual abilities. This disobedience itself is idolatry (whatever holds your chief allegiance is your god, at least at that time), while continued idolatry results in homosexuality as a practice, as God delivers one over to perverse desires. In addition, individual and societal disobedience to the laws of God creates an environment which is conducive to perpetuating and further intensifying iniquity, which if continued, in time requires judgment. Studies today have shown that [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality|Religious upbringing and culture can strongly affect rates of homosexuality]].

== Modern studies concerning the causes of homosexuality ==

Some studies indicate environmental factors can be involved in persons becoming homosexuals. Stanton L. Jones, Mark A. Yarhouse state in ''Homosexuality: the use of scientific research in the church's moral debate'' (and a main source for this section),
<blockquote>
The origins of homosexuality are not clearly understood by scientists, and the topic is a subject of hot debate. Theories and and empirical studies, which often contrast sharply, abound. The theories about the [[etiology]] of homosexuality fall into two very large categories: theories that point to nature (that is, biological variables) and theories that point to nurture (that is, the influence of experience, of psychological variables." (p. 52).
</blockquote>

Those who emphasize nurture, sometimes known as the ''[[psychoanalysis|psychoanalytical theory]]'', see powerful psychological forces at work, shaping and molding children from their birth, while those who emphasize nature contend that early homosexual traits attest to a biological cause. (p. 53)

Despite many psychological studies which indicate that the parent-child relationship, early childhood development, early homosexual experiences, and childhood abuse foster homosexuality, liberals tend to reject the environmental aspect, and favor a biological influence.<ref>David G. Myers, ''A level of explanations view'', Psychology of Christianity: four views. pp. 54-83</ref> This is then used to render homosexuals to be slaves to genes, and justified in acting it out.

==Environment and nurture==
[[Image:325979 dna150.jpg|thumbnail|150px|left|[[Columbia University]] [[psychiatry]] professors Drs. William Byrne and Bruce Parsons stated: "There is no evidence that at present to substantiate a [[biology|biological]] theory. [T]he appeal of current biological explanations for sexual orientation may derive more from dissatisfaction with the present status of [[psychosocial]] explanations than from a substantiating body of experimental data".<ref>http://www.cwfa.org/images/content/bornorbred.pdf</ref>]]

That homosexuality is affected by environment and nurture has been the historical secular position.

In his 1980 work ''Overcoming Homosexuality'', Robert Kronemeyer writes: "With rare exceptions, homosexuality is neither inherited nor the result of some glandular disturbance or the scrambling of genes or chromosomes. Homosexuals are made, not born 'that way.' I firmly believe that homosexuality is a learned response to early painful experiences and that it can be unlearned. For those homosexuals who are unhappy with their life and find effective therapy, it is 'curable.'<ref>Robert Kronemeyer, ''Overcoming Homosexuality'', p. 7 (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1980)</ref>

Similarly, in a 1989 ''[[USA Today]]'' article, [[San Francisco]] State University professor of psychology John DeCecco, and the former editor of the 25-volume, ''Journal of Homosexuality'', stated, "The idea that people are born into one type of sexual behavior is entirely foolish". Homosexuality is "a behavior, not a condition," and something that some people can and do change, just like they sometimes change other tastes and personality traits."<ref>Kim Painter, ''A Biological Theory for Sexual Preference'', USA Today, 1 January 1989, p. 4D</ref>

===Parental relationships with offspring===

The psychoanalytical theory is the historical position, which implicates a detached, rejecting or absent father, often along with a close bond to the mother, as working, on the conscious and unconscious level, against a secure sexual identity. Also contributing to this can be a mother who has animosity toward the father, or men in general, and who works to present him negatively, and to make the child side with her.

One of the earliest studies supporting this position was that of Irving Bieber and associates.<ref>Bieber, ''Homsexuality: A psychoanalytical study of male homosexuality'' (1962)</ref> Comparison of 106 homosexuals with 100 male heterosexuals showed that mothers of the former had enmeshed seductive type relationships with their sons, while their fathers were detached, distant or rejecting. This study was contested by some who charged the researchers with bias, but a further study by Ray B. Evans, which also compared homosexuals with heterosexuals, reported similar results, this time among self-identified homosexuals who had never sought treatment.<ref>Ray b. Evans, "Childhood parental relationships of homosexual men", ''Journal of Consulting and clinical psychology'', 33. (1969), pp. 129-33.</ref>

Based upon his work with 200 male homosexuals, Gerard van den Aardweg stated that 79 percent described their mother as "overanxious", or "overconcerned" about them; their safety, health, and being overly sentimental when they met with some hardship, as well as manifesting other aspects of over-mothering. In addition, in 71 percent of homosexual cases, "the most important factor was the father's detachedness or nonparticipation in the son's upbringing. The fathers of 38 percent of the men were so hypercritical that the sons were made to feel either rejected and/or inferior. <ref>Gerard van den Aardweg, ''on the origins and treatment of homosexuality'' (1985), pp.184-85.</ref>

Another study of about 1500 homosexuals showed much less influence by the mother, while far more reported an unaffectionate or detached father, and approximately half of homosexuals reported they had negative feelings toward their fathers, versus 29 percent of heterosexuals.<ref>Bell, Weinberg, Hammersmith, ''Sexual preference: Its development in men and women'' (1981).</ref>

While these factors are conducive to homosexuality, it should be stressed that these do not ensure that children raised this way will become homosexual, nor are these factors alone in influencing it.

===Sexual abuse===

Childhood sexual abuse is well attested to demonstrate a correlation to the incidence of homosexuality among those affected by it. A large national survey of almost 35,000 Americans showed that more than three times as many men and women who had been sexually abused as children became homosexuals, versus that of heterosexuals.<ref>7.4 percent or homosexual men and 3.1 percent of females, versus 2.0 percent of heterosexual men and 0.8 percent women.</ref><ref>Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, and Michaels, ''The social organization of homosexuality:...'', (1994) p. 344</ref> Another study reported that 58 percent of male adolescents who later became homosexuals suffered sexual abuse as children, while 90 percent who did not suffer sexual abuse identified themselves as heterosexuals.<ref>Sheir and Johnson, ''Sexual victimization of boys:... (1988) pp. 1189-93</ref> In addition, 43 percent of male homosexuals reported sexual activity with another male during the ages of 10-12, versus 9 percent of heterosexuals.<ref>Manosevitz, "Early sexual behavior in adult homosexual and heterosexual males", ''Journal of abnormal psychology'', 76 (1970), 396-402.</ref>

===Educational indoctrination===
As part of the liberal ideology in modern [[education]], and as a result of psychological tactics used by homosexual [[activist]]s, schools have increasingly fostered the promotion of homosexuality, whether as part of official policy through homosexual activists working with or in schools. As a form of indoctrination which begins at the kindergarten level, homosexuality is treated as healthy and normal, with students at very impressionable ages sometimes being influenced to experiment with homosexual behavior. This is often done under the rubric of [[HIV]] instruction of preventing [[suicide]] by homosexuals, and preventing ''[[homophobia]]''. <ref>[http://www.cwfa.org/articles/12546/MEDIA/family/index.htm CWA: School Tells Kids to Hide Pro-‘Gay’ Propaganda From Parents], Concerned Women for America, 3/13/2007</ref><ref>[http://www.missionamerica.com/agenda.php Fighting the Gay Agenda in Schools Articles], Mission America</ref><ref>[http://www.chroniclewatch.com/2009/06/17/indoctrination-of-youth/ Roberto Santiago, The Indoctrination of our Youth],The Chronicle Watch, June 17, 2009</ref><ref>[http://www.missionamerica.com/oldagenda26.php GLSEN, Corruption and Crime], Mission America</ref> <ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=127050 'Hate' laws could label 5-year-olds 'offenders'] WorldNetDaily, March 05, 2010</ref><ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126233 'Czar' sees transgender school goals in reach], WorldNetDaily, February 25, 2010</ref><ref>[http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54683 District gags 14-year-olds after 'gay' indoctrination], WorldNetDaily, March 13, 2007</ref>

==Biological research on the causes of homosexuality ==

''For more information please see:'' [[Genetics, Homosexuality, Evolutionary Paradigm, and Creation Science]] and [[Homosexuality and Genetics]].

The belief that homosexuality has a biological cause can be traced back to the preliminary findings of neuroscientist Dr. Simon LeVay. In 1991 LeVay's studied the brains of 41 cadavers which included 19 homosexual males, and claimed that "a tiny area believed to control sexual activity [the hypothalamus] was less than half the size in the gay men than in the heterosexuals."<ref>Charlene Crabb, ''Are Some Men Born to Be Homosexual?'', U. S. News & World Report, 9 September 1991, p. 58</ref><ref>S. LeVay, "A Difference in Hypothalamic Structure Between heterosexual and Homosexual Men," Science 253 (1991), pp. 1034-37</ref> This study was immediately seized upon by many as proof that homosexuality was biologically determined.

However, further scrutiny showed this hasty conclusion as lacking in warrant.

*1. The range of sizes of the hypothalamic region varied and was inconsistent. The region at subject was the same size in a few homosexual men as that of the heterosexuals, while in a few other heterosexuals this region was a small as that of a homosexual.
*2. The fact that all 19 of the homosexual men had died of [[AIDS]] could easily have accounted for or contributed to the differences.
*3. It has not been determined if the smaller hypothalamuses were the cause rather than the effect of homosexual activity. "Researchers have found that when people who become blind begin to learn Braille, the area of the brain controlling the reading finger actual grows larger."<ref>Reported in D. Gelman "Born or Bred?" Newsweek, 24 February 1992, pp. 46-53</ref><ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/homotheo.html</ref>
*4. Levay's study was based study was based upon a supposed sexual functional correlation between the SDN-POA brain center in male rats and a brain center called INAH3 in humans, but which assumption was shown to be false.<ref>http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron4.html</ref>
*5. The sexual history of the "heterosexual" men was not known, and Levay's samples included 16 brains from men whose sexual orientation was unknown.<ref>[http://www.equip.org/PDF/DH055-1.pdf Joseph P. Gudel, ''HOMOSEXUALITY: Fact and Fiction'']</ref>
*6. And as William Byne noted, LeVay’s work "has not been replicated, and human neuroanatomical studies of this kind have a very poor track record for reproducibility. Indeed, procedures similar to those LeVay used to identify nuclei have previously led researchers astray".<ref>Byne, William (1994), “The Biological Evidence Challenged,” Scientific American, May, 1994, 270: p. 53</ref>.
*7. The conclusions were that which were sought by the researcher. Dr. LeVay, a homosexual himself, confessed that his study was not entirely a dispassionate scientific endeavor,<ref>Simon LeVay on The Phil Donahue Show, ''Genetically Gay: Born Gay or Become Gay?'', January 3, 1992</ref> He also later stated, "I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay."<ref>Byrd, A. Dean, Shirley E. Cox, and Jeffrey W. Robinson (2001), ''Homosexuality: The Innate-Immutability Argument Finds No Basis in Science'', The Salt Lake Tribune</ref><ref>http://www.sltrib.com/2001/may/05272001/commenta/100523.htm</ref>

Two prominent geneticists, Paul Billings and Jonathan Beckwith, commenting on the quality of the LeVay research, stated that LeVay, "could not really be certain about his subject's sexual preferences, since they were dead", and that his "research design and subject sample did not allow others to determine whether it was sexual behavior, drug use, or disease history that was correlated with the observed differences among the subjects' brains." And in addition, it was very likely that LeVay's method of defining homosexuality would "create inaccurate or inconsistent study groups." <ref>P. Billings and J. Beckwith, "Born Gay?" Technology Review, July 1993, p. 60,61</ref>

Another study, published in ''Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the United States of America'', examined the ''anterior commissure'' (a structure that divides the left and right halves of the brain) of male heterosexuals and homosexual men, most of whom died of AIDS. The study shows that the anterior commissure was larger in women and in 27 of the 30 homosexual men than in heterosexual men.<ref>L. Allen, et al., ''Sexual Orientation and the Size of the Anterior Commissure in the Human Brain,'' Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the United States of America 89, no. 15 (1992), pp. 7199-7202</ref>.

Here again, how AIDS might have factored in this difference is an issue, and the findings of this study were overall in contradiction to another study published in 1988, which found, in part, that the anterior commissure was larger in men than in women.<ref>S. Demeter et al., "Morphometric analysis of the human corpus callosum and anterior commissure," Human Neurobiology 6 1988), pp. 219-26</ref>

A 1991 study of twins by Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard was also promoted as establishing biological determination of homosexuality, but which conclusion was also soon found to be lacking in warrant, and contrary to other studies.<ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/homotheo.html</ref><ref>[http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron4.html Dr. Paul Cameron, ''Born WHAT Way?'']</ref>

That blood chemistry as well as brains can change over time in response to environment and lifestyle has been documented by studies.<ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/bioresearch.html</ref><ref>Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, ''The Biology of Homosexuality: Science or Politics?''</ref><ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/bioresearch.html</ref>
[[File:Richard Dawkins pic.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|260px|right|The [[atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]] speculates that a "gay gene" causes homosexuality, but science has not discovered such a gene.<ref>[http://anglicansamizdat.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/richard-dawkins-explains-how-the-gay-gene-was-preserved/ Richard Dawkins speculates that gene for homosexuality exists]</ref> ]]

=== Causes of homosexuality and origins paradigms ===

In 1993, Professor [[Miron Baron]], M.D., the renowned medical researcher and Professor at [[Columbia University]], wrote in [[BMJ]] (British Medical Journal) that there is a conflict relative to the theory of [[evolution]] and the notion of [[gene|genetic]] [[determinism]] concerning [[homosexuality]]. Dr. Baron wrote "...from an evolutionary perspective, [[homosexuality and genetics|genetically determined homosexuality]] would have become [[extinct]] long ago because of reduced reproduction."<ref>[http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1678219 BMJ. 1993 August 7; 307(6900): 337–338.]</ref> In the United States, [[Theory of evolution and liberalism|liberals are more likely to believe in the theory of evolution]].<ref>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml</ref> Also, in the United States, twice as many liberals as conservatives (46% versus 22%) believe people are born homosexual and [[Views on Homosexuality|liberals generally have more favorable opinions about homosexuality]].<ref>http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=764</ref> Given Dr. [[Miron Baron]]'s commentary about homosexuality, many American liberals are inconsistent on the issues of evolution and homosexuality.

==Conclusions==

Sociologist Steven Goldberg, Ph.D. states,
<blockquote>
Virtually all of the evidence argues against there being a determinative physiological causal factor and I know of no researcher who believes that such a determinative factor exists...such factors play a predisposing, not a determinative role...I know of no one in the field who argues that homosexuality can be explained without reference to environmental factors.
</blockquote>

Goldberg also expressed, "Gay criticism has not addressed the classic family configuration"; it has merely "asserted away the considerable evidence" for the existence of family factors. Studies which attempt to disprove the existence of the classic family pattern in homosexuality are "convincing only to those with a need to believe." <ref>S. Goldberg, ''When Wish Replaces Thought: Why So Much of What You Believe is False'' (1994), Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books</ref>

Psychiatrists Friedman and Downey: "Despite recent neurobiological findings suggesting homosexuality is genetically-biologically determined, credible evidence is lacking for a biological model of homosexuality." <ref>R. Friedman, M.D. and J. Downey, M.D., ''Journal of Neuropsychiatry'', vol. 5, No. 2, Spring l993</ref>

Psychiatrist and author Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. concludes,
<blockquote>
Like all complex behavioral and mental states, homosexuality is...neither exclusively biological nor exclusively psychological, but results from an as-yet-difficult-to-quantitate mixture of genetic factors, intrauterine influences...postnatal environment (such as parent, sibling and cultural behavior), and a complex series of repeatedly reinforced choices occurring at critical phases of development.<ref>J. Satinover, M.D., ''Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth'', (1996). Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books</ref></blockquote>

Drs. William Byne and Bruce Parsons, researchers at the New York State Psychiatric Institute,having carefully analyzed all the major biological studies of homosexuality, found none that definitively supported a biological theory of causation. "Human Sexual Orientation: The Biologic Theories Reappraised." Archives of General Psychiatry 50, no.3. (1993)

Other similarly express that nurture and choice factor as being mostly or wholly determinative.<ref>[http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/homorig.html On the Origins of Homosexuality:
Is a Person "Born that Way"?]</ref>

===Indications of onset homosexuality===

Childhood manifestations of gender non-conformity such as consistent preference by a boy for the clothing, company and play things (dolls, etc.) of girls over that of boys is generally seen as predisposing such to homosexuality.<ref>Stanton L. Jones, Mark A. Yarhouse, ''Homosexuality: the use of scientific research in the church's moral debate'', pp. 52-92</ref> However, this is not always the case, and many children who manifest gender non-conformity are simply trying to discover what gender is.

==Homosexuality as a choice==
The Bible shows that while nurture and environment can make one more predisposed to certain types of behavior, man's sinful nature can also deceive one into believing that sinful behaviors are not sin, while yielding to sin reduces ones ability to resist it. Secular studies also indicate that most homosexuals have been attracted to the opposite gender.

A research project (2004) of Robert Goetze identified 84 articles or books that contain some relevance to the possibility of sexual orientation change. Of the data reported, 31 of the 84 studies showed a quantitative outcome of individuals able to change sexual orientation.<ref>http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553</ref>

Ironically, the homosexuals themselves argued back in 1971 that homosexuality is "merely a preference, orientation, or propensity"<ref name="RainbowHistory">{{cite web |title=The Rainbow History Project|url=http://www.rainbowhistory.org/html/apazap.htm}}</ref>. One homosexual received the question on this topic in the CBS documentary from 1967: "Most homosexuals if they had a chance to be a heterosexual, would they? Well, I have a friend who took a poll of 300 people on that very question, he asked them: If you were able to take a pill to change yourself from homosexual to heterosexual, would you do it? And something like 95% of men said: “No.”"<ref name="CBS">{{cite web |title=Time Capsule: Mike Wallace tells truth about homosexuality in 1967 documentary |publisher=CBS |page=02min:58sec |url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/time-capsule-mike-wallace-tells-truth-about-homosexuality-in-1967-documenta}}</ref>

===Former homosexuals===
[[Image:St Paul Preaching.jpg|left|thumb|200px|St. [[Paul]] defends his preaching (Giovanni Ricco)]]
''For more information please see'': [[Ex-Homosexuals]] and [[Overcoming Homosexuality]]

One of the earliest historical records of the existence of [[Ex-Homosexuals|ex-homosexuals]] is found in the letter of the [[Paul|Apostle Paul]] to the [[Corinth|Corinthian]] [[Christianity|Christian]] church (approx. 59 AD).
{{cquote|Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the [[Kingdom of God|kingdom of God]]? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such '''were''' some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the [[Holy Spirit|Spirit]] of our [[God]]. - I Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)}}

Today people still report leaving homosexuality and becoming heterosexual by being born again through repentance and faith in the Lord [[Jesus Christ]].<ref>http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56481</ref><ref>http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=19650</ref><ref>http://www.cwfa.org/articles/4216/CFI/cfreport/index.htm</ref><ref>http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.aspid=25145</ref><ref>http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/blkexgbks.html</ref> <ref>http://www.frontlinemin.org/wasgay.asp</ref><ref>http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=9019</ref><ref>http://www.apocalipsis.org/testimony.htm</ref><ref>http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?action=story&story=13784</ref>

[[Peter LaBarbera]] is the President of [[Americans for Truth]] which is a organization which counters the [[Homosexual Agenda|homosexual agenda]]. Peter LaBarbera stated the following regarding Christian ex-homosexuals who reported being transformed by the power of God:
{{cquote|Another factor from my experience as a close observer of the “ex-gay” phenomenon is that many former homosexuals do not linger in “[[Reparative Therapy|reparative therapy]]” programs, or participate in them at all. They attribute their dramatic and (relatively) rapid transformation to the power of God, and likely would not show up in a study of this kind. In fact, these “unstudied” overcomers would appear to be the most successful ex-homosexuals because they’ve moved on with their lives — as “reborn” Christians can move on after overcoming any besetting sin.<ref>http://www.americansfortruth.com/news/landmark-study-change-for-homosexuals-is-possible.html</ref>}}

==Additional sources concerning the causes of homosexuality ==

There has been much work done since the latter part of the 20th century. Below are some resources in regards to the various causes of homosexuality:

*[[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality]]
*[[Sexual Abuse Being a Contributing Factor for Homosexuality]]
*[[Homosexuality and Choice]]
*[[Homosexuality and Genetics]]
*[[Homosexuality in animals myth]]
*[[Genetics, Homosexuality, Evolutionary Paradigm, and Creation Science]]
*[http://www.mygenes.co.nz/download.htm My genes made me do it!]

==See Also==
*[[Resources on becoming a Christian]]
* [[Homosexuality and the Bible]]
*[[Homosexuality and biblical interpretation]]
*[[Homosexuality and bestiality]]
*[[Ex-Homosexuals]]
*[[Teenager Homosexuality]]
*[[Homosexuality Research]]
*[[Homosexuality Statistics]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.allaboutworldview.org/causes-of-homosexuality-faq.htm What are some of the causes of homosexuality?]
*[http://ankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/streams-of-life/SL2W0803.pdf What Causes Homosexuality] by Dr. John F. Ankerberg
* [http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/genetics_of_homosexuality.html Rich Deem, ''Genetics and Homosexuality: Are People Born Gay? The Biological Basis for Sexual Orientation]

==References==
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[[File:70810564 64d3a67932.jpg|alt=Causes of homosexuality|right|275px|thumb|Homosexuality is rare in [[Orthodox Judaism|Orthodox Jews]]. For more information please see: [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality]].]]

The '''causes of [[homosexuality]]''' are attributable to man's sinful nature, nurture, environment, lack of a relationship with God, and personal choice. How important each factor is, though, is an issue that is debated. Those from the most [[liberal]] school usually assume a philosophy of determinism, treating homosexuality as an identity or orientation which one has no choice over, and which cannot be changed. This belief is then used to justify acting it out.<ref>Sylvia Thorson-Smith, ''Reconciling the broken silence'', p. 30</ref> The contrasting and warranted position is that homosexuality is a choice, that of yielding to ultimately harmful desires, and which choice is partly affected by nurture and environment.

==Causes of homosexuality - Biblical explanation ==

The [[Bible]], being the most comprehensive transcendent moral authority, abundantly deals with human nature and behavior and consistently manifests that the nature of man has not changed since [[the Fall]]. So the Bible is certainly the preeminent authoritative source when it comes to providing a framework when determining the causes of homosexuality. Man is shown to have been created as a perfectly made being (Gn. 1:31) - yet not as a robot - but as a being designed to be able to make choices, which thereby allowed him to distort his perfection. God from the beginning also joined male and female in life-long marriage, and placed a priority on the family, and provided laws, as needed, for its health and preservation and that of society, while aberrations result from failure to abide by them. ''For more information please see:'' [[Homosexuality and the Bible]] and [[Homosexuality and biblical interpretation]]''

===Nature of man and causes of homosexuality ===
In the beginning, man disobeyed his Creator, and as part of the punishment for so doing both mankind and that which he was given stewardship of was negatively affected. In addition to physical decay and the suffering and natural death of living creatures being introduced into the world, (Gn. 2:17; 3:17-19; Rm. 5:12,17; 6:23; ) the Fall resulted in the nature of man demonstrating a certain proclivity to sin. However, this does not determine that a man must practice a certain sin, nor does it justify man giving into this attraction to sin, as God also gave man ability to resist sin. (Gn. 4:7)<ref>http://www.sbts.edu/documents/tschreiner/Homosexuality.pdf</ref>

Certain negative physical effects of sin are also seen as being progressive, as with time more diseases and other aberrations seemed to have occurred, and laws against incest later became necessary. In addition, as men continued to act contrary to the basic moral laws which they knew innately and through creation, conscience and oral tradition, a formal body of law was given through [[Moses]], which detailed and codified the immutable morality God enjoins upon man. (Ex. 20; Dt. 4:8,9; Lv. 18; Gal. 3:19) Addition laws include ceremonial laws which the [[New Testament]] reveals were typological. ''For more information please see:'' [[Leviticus 18]].''

As regards homosexuality, from the beginning of the Bible and throughout, it consistently teaches that God only sexually joined opposite genders together, sanctifying them in marriage, having created men and women uniquely compatible and complementary.(Gn. 2:18-24; Mt. 19:4; 1Cor. 11:8-12)<ref>http://www.cbmw.org/Articles/</ref>

In contrast to what God had ordained by design and decree, homosexuality is one of many sins which are a result of man yielding to his sinful nature, and is a form of fornication, although a most perverse kind. The prohibition of it is given along with sexual relations with animals, (Lv. 18:23) and is clearly condemned wherever it is manifestly dealt with. (Lv. 18:22; 20:13; Mk. 7:21; Rm. 1:20-27; 1Cor. 6:9; 1Tim. 1:10)

The Bible, as well as history, also evidences that while there are three areas in which man sins, those of lust for pleasure, possessions and power, (1Jn. 2:16) individuals may differ as regards which type of sins present the greatest temptation for them, with genetics playing at least a part in that. That judgment upon a people who gave into a specific sin could result in a genetic predisposition to that same sin among their offspring may be speculated, but it is not proven.

===Environment===

The Bible provides a clear link between the adherence of a family or a nation to the laws of God and the moral choices of offspring. (Prov. 22:6) The Bible also positively examples close father-son and familial relationships, and may be seen to partially implicate detachment with rebellion. (Gn. 37-50; 2 Sam. 13-18) Studies today have shown that [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality|religious upbringing and culture can strongly affect rates of homosexuality]].

The record of [[Sodom]], as well as accounts of nations elsewhere, testify that living within the environment of people where [[iniquity]] abounds is conducive to furthering the same iniquity among succeeding generations, resulting in the necessity of Divine judgment when nations became given over to such. (Lv. 18:24; 20:22; Dt. 18:12; 28; Jer. 14:9,10; Rm. 2:2)

In Genesis 19, the city of Sodom is revealed as a place in which men sexually lusted after men, from which the term "sodomy" was derived (like as homosexuals use the term "gay", although this is contradictory in the end), and Jude 7 refers to Sodom and its region being given to fornication, including that of unnatural relations.

In Ezekiel 16:49 the general iniquity of Sodom and its "sisters" is given as "pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness" and general indifference to the needy. The next verse proceeds to inform that "the Sodomites were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good." The word for ''abomination'' here is ''tô‛êbah'', which is not the word often used for ritual uncleanness, but is often used for sexual sin, in particular sexual sins and including sodomy. (Lv.18:22; 26-27,29,30; 20:13; Dt. 23:18; 24:4 1Ki. 14:24; Ezek. 22:11; 33:26) Sodom is also associated more with sexual sins than with any other ''physical'' type of sin.

What the Bible, as well as secular history, reveals is that prevalent homosexuality is concomitant with pride, affluence, increased free time, and selfish indulgence and carelessness.<ref>[http://peacebyjesus.witnesstoday.org/Homosex_versus_the_Bible.html Homosexual relations and the Bible: see Genesis 19 to Ezekiel 16:49]</ref> Therefore, rebellion against God's laws and order and the resultant environmental factors are seen to be a cause in promoting sensuality and homosexuality.

===Idolatry and judgment===
[[Image:Martin destruction sodom640x422.jpg|thumbnail|300px|right|Destruction of [[Sodom]] by [[God]]]]

In [[Romans 1]], God, through the [[apostle Paul]], condemns both male and female homoeroticism, which, as a cultural practice, is shown to be a manifestation and a result of idolatry, in which man progressively acted contrary to that which God has revealed by creation, by design and normality. This is morality which is confirmed by written decree (the Law), as the next chapter declares. As a result of this continued rebellion, which was partly manifest in God being reduced to an image like unto corruptible creatures (like as today with homosexuals construing Christ to be homosexual, or sanctioning it, as well as nature effectively being worshiped), "God gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves." (v. 24)

It is also stated that a certain afflictive punishment(s) of the body were incurred by those men who engaged in relations with each other. (v. 27) Unless repentance takes place, worse consequences will follow. (Rv. 21:28)

While some seek to render this chapter as only condemning homosexual relations when done as part of idolatry, the condemnation is not due to its association with paganism, rather as it inherently contrary to that which God ordained, then it is a manifestation of false religion, regardless of its form, though in ancient times in which religion was an inseparable part of culture, then formal idolatry was what was more manifested. Romans 1 proceeds to show that homosexuality is not alone as a fruit of idolatry, but that this particular pernicious physical sin is one of many inherently evil things. (Rm. 1:28-32) ''For more information please see:'' [[Romans 1]].

In summary, God's eternal power is manifest in His [[creation]] (Romans 1:18-20). Nonetheless, certain people chose to worship the creature more than the Creator (Romans 1:21-25). Therefore, God gave them up to homosexuality and other sins and gave them over to a reprobate mind (Romans 1:26-32). As an example of the truth of this teaching, [[feminist]]s, wishing to deny the [[Women#New_Testament_statements_on_the_role_of_women|God-given role of women]], often engage in [[goddess]] worship and other forms of [[idolatry]]<ref>[http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/goddess.html "Probe Ministries: Goddess Worship," by Russ Wise]</ref> and as a consequence are often given up to lesbianism.<ref>[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56458 Hetero woman: Feminism turned me into a lesbian], from [[WorldNetDaily]]</ref>

=== Conclusion of Biblical explanation ===

What is revealed in the Bible is that homosexuality is a practice due to man yielding to his sinful nature and disobeying the good laws of God, and misusing, among other things, his sexual abilities. This disobedience itself is idolatry (whatever holds your chief allegiance is your god, at least at that time), while continued idolatry results in homosexuality as a practice, as God delivers one over to perverse desires. In addition, individual and societal disobedience to the laws of God creates an environment which is conducive to perpetuating and further intensifying iniquity, which if continued, in time requires judgment. Studies today have shown that [[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality|Religious upbringing and culture can strongly affect rates of homosexuality]].

== Modern studies concerning the causes of homosexuality ==

Some studies indicate environmental factors can be involved in persons becoming homosexuals. Stanton L. Jones, Mark A. Yarhouse state in ''Homosexuality: the use of scientific research in the church's moral debate'' (and a main source for this section),
<blockquote>
The origins of homosexuality are not clearly understood by scientists, and the topic is a subject of hot debate. Theories and and empirical studies, which often contrast sharply, abound. The theories about the [[etiology]] of homosexuality fall into two very large categories: theories that point to nature (that is, biological variables) and theories that point to nurture (that is, the influence of experience, of psychological variables." (p. 52).
</blockquote>

Those who emphasize nurture, sometimes known as the ''[[psychoanalysis|psychoanalytical theory]]'', see powerful psychological forces at work, shaping and molding children from their birth, while those who emphasize nature contend that early homosexual traits attest to a biological cause. (p. 53)

Despite many psychological studies which indicate that the parent-child relationship, early childhood development, early homosexual experiences, and childhood abuse foster homosexuality, liberals tend to reject the environmental aspect, and favor a biological influence.<ref>David G. Myers, ''A level of explanations view'', Psychology of Christianity: four views. pp. 54-83</ref> This is then used to render homosexuals to be slaves to genes, and justified in acting it out.

==Environment and nurture==
[[Image:325979 dna150.jpg|thumbnail|150px|left|[[Columbia University]] [[psychiatry]] professors Drs. William Byrne and Bruce Parsons stated: "There is no evidence that at present to substantiate a [[biology|biological]] theory. [T]he appeal of current biological explanations for sexual orientation may derive more from dissatisfaction with the present status of [[psychosocial]] explanations than from a substantiating body of experimental data".<ref>http://www.cwfa.org/images/content/bornorbred.pdf</ref>]]

That homosexuality is affected by environment and nurture has been the historical secular position.

In his 1980 work ''Overcoming Homosexuality'', Robert Kronemeyer writes: "With rare exceptions, homosexuality is neither inherited nor the result of some glandular disturbance or the scrambling of genes or chromosomes. Homosexuals are made, not born 'that way.' I firmly believe that homosexuality is a learned response to early painful experiences and that it can be unlearned. For those homosexuals who are unhappy with their life and find effective therapy, it is 'curable.'<ref>Robert Kronemeyer, ''Overcoming Homosexuality'', p. 7 (New York: Macmillan Publishing Co., 1980)</ref>

Similarly, in a 1989 ''[[USA Today]]'' article, [[San Francisco]] State University professor of psychology John DeCecco, and the former editor of the 25-volume, ''Journal of Homosexuality'', stated, "The idea that people are born into one type of sexual behavior is entirely foolish". Homosexuality is "a behavior, not a condition," and something that some people can and do change, just like they sometimes change other tastes and personality traits."<ref>Kim Painter, ''A Biological Theory for Sexual Preference'', USA Today, 1 January 1989, p. 4D</ref>

===Parental relationships with offspring===

The psychoanalytical theory is the historical position, which implicates a detached, rejecting or absent father, often along with a close bond to the mother, as working, on the conscious and unconscious level, against a secure sexual identity. Also contributing to this can be a mother who has animosity toward the father, or men in general, and who works to present him negatively, and to make the child side with her.

One of the earliest studies supporting this position was that of Irving Bieber and associates.<ref>Bieber, ''Homsexuality: A psychoanalytical study of male homosexuality'' (1962)</ref> Comparison of 106 homosexuals with 100 male heterosexuals showed that mothers of the former had enmeshed seductive type relationships with their sons, while their fathers were detached, distant or rejecting. This study was contested by some who charged the researchers with bias, but a further study by Ray B. Evans, which also compared homosexuals with heterosexuals, reported similar results, this time among self-identified homosexuals who had never sought treatment.<ref>Ray b. Evans, "Childhood parental relationships of homosexual men", ''Journal of Consulting and clinical psychology'', 33. (1969), pp. 129-33.</ref>

Based upon his work with 200 male homosexuals, Gerard van den Aardweg stated that 79 percent described their mother as "overanxious", or "overconcerned" about them; their safety, health, and being overly sentimental when they met with some hardship, as well as manifesting other aspects of over-mothering. In addition, in 71 percent of homosexual cases, "the most important factor was the father's detachedness or nonparticipation in the son's upbringing. The fathers of 38 percent of the men were so hypercritical that the sons were made to feel either rejected and/or inferior. <ref>Gerard van den Aardweg, ''on the origins and treatment of homosexuality'' (1985), pp.184-85.</ref>

Another study of about 1500 homosexuals showed much less influence by the mother, while far more reported an unaffectionate or detached father, and approximately half of homosexuals reported they had negative feelings toward their fathers, versus 29 percent of heterosexuals.<ref>Bell, Weinberg, Hammersmith, ''Sexual preference: Its development in men and women'' (1981).</ref>

While these factors are conducive to homosexuality, it should be stressed that these do not ensure that children raised this way will become homosexual, nor are these factors alone in influencing it.

===Sexual abuse===

Childhood sexual abuse is well attested to demonstrate a correlation to the incidence of homosexuality among those affected by it. A large national survey of almost 35,000 Americans showed that more than three times as many men and women who had been sexually abused as children became homosexuals, versus that of heterosexuals.<ref>7.4 percent or homosexual men and 3.1 percent of females, versus 2.0 percent of heterosexual men and 0.8 percent women.</ref><ref>Laumann, Gagnon, Michael, and Michaels, ''The social organization of homosexuality:...'', (1994) p. 344</ref> Another study reported that 58 percent of male adolescents who later became homosexuals suffered sexual abuse as children, while 90 percent who did not suffer sexual abuse identified themselves as heterosexuals.<ref>Sheir and Johnson, ''Sexual victimization of boys:... (1988) pp. 1189-93</ref> In addition, 43 percent of male homosexuals reported sexual activity with another male during the ages of 10-12, versus 9 percent of heterosexuals.<ref>Manosevitz, "Early sexual behavior in adult homosexual and heterosexual males", ''Journal of abnormal psychology'', 76 (1970), 396-402.</ref>

===Educational indoctrination===
As part of the liberal ideology in modern [[education]], and as a result of psychological tactics used by homosexual [[activist]]s, schools have increasingly fostered the promotion of homosexuality, whether as part of official policy through homosexual activists working with or in schools. As a form of indoctrination which begins at the kindergarten level, homosexuality is treated as healthy and normal, with students at very impressionable ages sometimes being influenced to experiment with homosexual behavior. This is often done under the rubric of [[HIV]] instruction of preventing [[suicide]] by homosexuals, and preventing ''[[homophobia]]''. <ref>[http://www.cwfa.org/articles/12546/MEDIA/family/index.htm CWA: School Tells Kids to Hide Pro-‘Gay’ Propaganda From Parents], Concerned Women for America, 3/13/2007</ref><ref>[http://www.missionamerica.com/agenda.php Fighting the Gay Agenda in Schools Articles], Mission America</ref><ref>[http://www.chroniclewatch.com/2009/06/17/indoctrination-of-youth/ Roberto Santiago, The Indoctrination of our Youth],The Chronicle Watch, June 17, 2009</ref><ref>[http://www.missionamerica.com/oldagenda26.php GLSEN, Corruption and Crime], Mission America</ref> <ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=127050 'Hate' laws could label 5-year-olds 'offenders'] WorldNetDaily, March 05, 2010</ref><ref>[http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=126233 'Czar' sees transgender school goals in reach], WorldNetDaily, February 25, 2010</ref><ref>[http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54683 District gags 14-year-olds after 'gay' indoctrination], WorldNetDaily, March 13, 2007</ref>

==Biological research on the causes of homosexuality ==

''For more information please see:'' [[Genetics, Homosexuality, Evolutionary Paradigm, and Creation Science]] and [[Homosexuality and Genetics]].

The belief that homosexuality has a biological cause can be traced back to the preliminary findings of neuroscientist Dr. Simon LeVay. In 1991 LeVay's studied the brains of 41 cadavers which included 19 homosexual males, and claimed that "a tiny area believed to control sexual activity [the hypothalamus] was less than half the size in the gay men than in the heterosexuals."<ref>Charlene Crabb, ''Are Some Men Born to Be Homosexual?'', U. S. News & World Report, 9 September 1991, p. 58</ref><ref>S. LeVay, "A Difference in Hypothalamic Structure Between heterosexual and Homosexual Men," Science 253 (1991), pp. 1034-37</ref> This study was immediately seized upon by many as proof that homosexuality was biologically determined.

However, further scrutiny showed this hasty conclusion as lacking in warrant.

*1. The range of sizes of the hypothalamic region varied and was inconsistent. The region at subject was the same size in a few homosexual men as that of the heterosexuals, while in a few other heterosexuals this region was a small as that of a homosexual.
*2. The fact that all 19 of the homosexual men had died of [[AIDS]] could easily have accounted for or contributed to the differences.
*3. It has not been determined if the smaller hypothalamuses were the cause rather than the effect of homosexual activity. "Researchers have found that when people who become blind begin to learn Braille, the area of the brain controlling the reading finger actual grows larger."<ref>Reported in D. Gelman "Born or Bred?" Newsweek, 24 February 1992, pp. 46-53</ref><ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/homotheo.html</ref>
*4. Levay's study was based study was based upon a supposed sexual functional correlation between the SDN-POA brain center in male rats and a brain center called INAH3 in humans, but which assumption was shown to be false.<ref>http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron4.html</ref>
*5. The sexual history of the "heterosexual" men was not known, and Levay's samples included 16 brains from men whose sexual orientation was unknown.<ref>[http://www.equip.org/PDF/DH055-1.pdf Joseph P. Gudel, ''HOMOSEXUALITY: Fact and Fiction'']</ref>
*6. And as William Byne noted, LeVay’s work "has not been replicated, and human neuroanatomical studies of this kind have a very poor track record for reproducibility. Indeed, procedures similar to those LeVay used to identify nuclei have previously led researchers astray".<ref>Byne, William (1994), “The Biological Evidence Challenged,” Scientific American, May, 1994, 270: p. 53</ref>.
*7. The conclusions were that which were sought by the researcher. Dr. LeVay, a homosexual himself, confessed that his study was not entirely a dispassionate scientific endeavor,<ref>Simon LeVay on The Phil Donahue Show, ''Genetically Gay: Born Gay or Become Gay?'', January 3, 1992</ref> He also later stated, "I did not prove that homosexuality is genetic, or find a genetic cause for being gay."<ref>Byrd, A. Dean, Shirley E. Cox, and Jeffrey W. Robinson (2001), ''Homosexuality: The Innate-Immutability Argument Finds No Basis in Science'', The Salt Lake Tribune</ref><ref>http://www.sltrib.com/2001/may/05272001/commenta/100523.htm</ref>

Two prominent geneticists, Paul Billings and Jonathan Beckwith, commenting on the quality of the LeVay research, stated that LeVay, "could not really be certain about his subject's sexual preferences, since they were dead", and that his "research design and subject sample did not allow others to determine whether it was sexual behavior, drug use, or disease history that was correlated with the observed differences among the subjects' brains." And in addition, it was very likely that LeVay's method of defining homosexuality would "create inaccurate or inconsistent study groups." <ref>P. Billings and J. Beckwith, "Born Gay?" Technology Review, July 1993, p. 60,61</ref>

Another study, published in ''Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the United States of America'', examined the ''anterior commissure'' (a structure that divides the left and right halves of the brain) of male heterosexuals and homosexual men, most of whom died of AIDS. The study shows that the anterior commissure was larger in women and in 27 of the 30 homosexual men than in heterosexual men.<ref>L. Allen, et al., ''Sexual Orientation and the Size of the Anterior Commissure in the Human Brain,'' Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the United States of America 89, no. 15 (1992), pp. 7199-7202</ref>.

Here again, how AIDS might have factored in this difference is an issue, and the findings of this study were overall in contradiction to another study published in 1988, which found, in part, that the anterior commissure was larger in men than in women.<ref>S. Demeter et al., "Morphometric analysis of the human corpus callosum and anterior commissure," Human Neurobiology 6 1988), pp. 219-26</ref>

A 1991 study of twins by Michael Bailey and Richard Pillard was also promoted as establishing biological determination of homosexuality, but which conclusion was also soon found to be lacking in warrant, and contrary to other studies.<ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/probe/docs/homotheo.html</ref><ref>[http://www.biblebelievers.com/Cameron4.html Dr. Paul Cameron, ''Born WHAT Way?'']</ref>

That blood chemistry as well as brains can change over time in response to environment and lifestyle has been documented by studies.<ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/bioresearch.html</ref><ref>Dr. Jeffrey Satinover, ''The Biology of Homosexuality: Science or Politics?''</ref><ref>http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/bioresearch.html</ref>
[[File:Richard Dawkins pic.jpg|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|260px|right|The [[atheist]] [[Richard Dawkins]] speculates that a "gay gene" causes homosexuality, but science has not discovered such a gene.<ref>[http://anglicansamizdat.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/richard-dawkins-explains-how-the-gay-gene-was-preserved/ Richard Dawkins speculates that gene for homosexuality exists]</ref> ]]

=== Causes of homosexuality and origins paradigms ===

In 1993, Professor [[Miron Baron]], M.D., the renowned medical researcher and Professor at [[Columbia University]], wrote in [[BMJ]] (British Medical Journal) that there is a conflict relative to the theory of [[evolution]] and the notion of [[gene|genetic]] [[determinism]] concerning [[homosexuality]]. Dr. Baron wrote "...from an evolutionary perspective, [[homosexuality and genetics|genetically determined homosexuality]] would have become [[extinct]] long ago because of reduced reproduction."<ref>[http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1678219 BMJ. 1993 August 7; 307(6900): 337–338.]</ref> In the United States, [[Theory of evolution and liberalism|liberals are more likely to believe in the theory of evolution]].<ref>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/22/opinion/polls/main965223.shtml</ref> Also, in the United States, twice as many liberals as conservatives (46% versus 22%) believe people are born homosexual and [[Views on Homosexuality|liberals generally have more favorable opinions about homosexuality]].<ref>http://people-press.org/report/?pageid=764</ref> Given Dr. [[Miron Baron]]'s commentary about homosexuality, many American liberals are inconsistent on the issues of evolution and homosexuality.

==Conclusions==

Sociologist Steven Goldberg, Ph.D. states,
<blockquote>
Virtually all of the evidence argues against there being a determinative physiological causal factor and I know of no researcher who believes that such a determinative factor exists...such factors play a predisposing, not a determinative role...I know of no one in the field who argues that homosexuality can be explained without reference to environmental factors.
</blockquote>

Goldberg also expressed, "Gay criticism has not addressed the classic family configuration"; it has merely "asserted away the considerable evidence" for the existence of family factors. Studies which attempt to disprove the existence of the classic family pattern in homosexuality are "convincing only to those with a need to believe." <ref>S. Goldberg, ''When Wish Replaces Thought: Why So Much of What You Believe is False'' (1994), Buffalo, New York: Prometheus Books</ref>

Psychiatrists Friedman and Downey: "Despite recent neurobiological findings suggesting homosexuality is genetically-biologically determined, credible evidence is lacking for a biological model of homosexuality." <ref>R. Friedman, M.D. and J. Downey, M.D., ''Journal of Neuropsychiatry'', vol. 5, No. 2, Spring l993</ref>

Psychiatrist and author Jeffrey Satinover, M.D. concludes,
<blockquote>
Like all complex behavioral and mental states, homosexuality is...neither exclusively biological nor exclusively psychological, but results from an as-yet-difficult-to-quantitate mixture of genetic factors, intrauterine influences...postnatal environment (such as parent, sibling and cultural behavior), and a complex series of repeatedly reinforced choices occurring at critical phases of development.<ref>J. Satinover, M.D., ''Homosexuality and the Politics of Truth'', (1996). Grand Rapids, MI: Baker Books</ref></blockquote>

Drs. William Byne and Bruce Parsons, researchers at the New York State Psychiatric Institute,having carefully analyzed all the major biological studies of homosexuality, found none that definitively supported a biological theory of causation. "Human Sexual Orientation: The Biologic Theories Reappraised." Archives of General Psychiatry 50, no.3. (1993)

Other similarly express that nurture and choice factor as being mostly or wholly determinative.<ref>[http://www.leaderu.com/orgs/narth/homorig.html On the Origins of Homosexuality:
Is a Person "Born that Way"?]</ref>

===Indications of onset homosexuality===

Childhood manifestations of gender non-conformity such as consistent preference by a boy for the clothing, company and play things (dolls, etc.) of girls over that of boys is generally seen as predisposing such to homosexuality.<ref>Stanton L. Jones, Mark A. Yarhouse, ''Homosexuality: the use of scientific research in the church's moral debate'', pp. 52-92</ref> However, this is not always the case, and many children who manifest gender non-conformity are simply trying to discover what gender is.

==Homosexuality as a choice==
The Bible shows that while nurture and environment can make one more predisposed to certain types of behavior, man's sinful nature can also deceive one into believing that sinful behaviors are not sin, while yielding to sin reduces ones ability to resist it. Secular studies also indicate that most homosexuals have been attracted to the opposite gender.

A research project (2004) of Robert Goetze identified 84 articles or books that contain some relevance to the possibility of sexual orientation change. Of the data reported, 31 of the 84 studies showed a quantitative outcome of individuals able to change sexual orientation.<ref>http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2553</ref>

Ironically, the homosexuals themselves argued back in 1971 that homosexuality is "merely a preference, orientation, or propensity"<ref name="RainbowHistory">{{cite web |title=The Rainbow History Project|url=http://www.rainbowhistory.org/html/apazap.htm}}</ref>. One homosexual received the question on this topic in the CBS documentary from 1967: "Most homosexuals if they had a chance to be a heterosexual, would they? Well, I have a friend who took a poll of 300 people on that very question, he asked them: If you were able to take a pill to change yourself from homosexual to heterosexual, would you do it? And something like 95% of men said: “No.”"<ref name="CBS">{{cite web |title=Time Capsule: Mike Wallace tells truth about homosexuality in 1967 documentary |publisher=CBS |page=02min:58sec |url=http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/time-capsule-mike-wallace-tells-truth-about-homosexuality-in-1967-documenta}}</ref>

===Former homosexuals===
[[Image:St Paul Preaching.jpg|left|thumb|200px|St. [[Paul]] defends his preaching (Giovanni Ricco)]]
''For more information please see'': [[Ex-Homosexuals]] and [[Overcoming Homosexuality]]

One of the earliest historical records of the existence of [[Ex-Homosexuals|ex-homosexuals]] is found in the letter of the [[Paul|Apostle Paul]] to the [[Corinth|Corinthian]] [[Christianity|Christian]] church (approx. 59 AD).
{{cquote|Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the [[Kingdom of God|kingdom of God]]? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such '''were''' some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the [[Holy Spirit|Spirit]] of our [[God]]. - I Corinthians 6:9-11 (KJV)}}

Today people still report leaving homosexuality and becoming heterosexual by being born again through repentance and faith in the Lord [[Jesus Christ]].<ref>http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56481</ref><ref>http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=19650</ref><ref>http://www.cwfa.org/articles/4216/CFI/cfreport/index.htm</ref><ref>http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.aspid=25145</ref><ref>http://www.witnessfortheworld.org/blkexgbks.html</ref> <ref>http://www.frontlinemin.org/wasgay.asp</ref><ref>http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=9019</ref><ref>http://www.apocalipsis.org/testimony.htm</ref><ref>http://www.baylor.edu/lariat/news.php?action=story&story=13784</ref>

[[Peter LaBarbera]] is the President of [[Americans for Truth]] which is a organization which counters the [[Homosexual Agenda|homosexual agenda]]. Peter LaBarbera stated the following regarding Christian ex-homosexuals who reported being transformed by the power of God:
{{cquote|Another factor from my experience as a close observer of the “ex-gay” phenomenon is that many former homosexuals do not linger in “[[Reparative Therapy|reparative therapy]]” programs, or participate in them at all. They attribute their dramatic and (relatively) rapid transformation to the power of God, and likely would not show up in a study of this kind. In fact, these “unstudied” overcomers would appear to be the most successful ex-homosexuals because they’ve moved on with their lives — as “reborn” Christians can move on after overcoming any besetting sin.<ref>http://www.americansfortruth.com/news/landmark-study-change-for-homosexuals-is-possible.html</ref>}}

==Additional sources concerning the causes of homosexuality ==

There has been much work done since the latter part of the 20th century. Below are some resources in regards to the various causes of homosexuality:

*[[Religious Upbringing and Culture Affects Rates of Homosexuality]]
*[[Sexual Abuse Being a Contributing Factor for Homosexuality]]
*[[Homosexuality and Choice]]
*[[Homosexuality and Genetics]]
*[[Homosexuality in animals myth]]
*[[Genetics, Homosexuality, Evolutionary Paradigm, and Creation Science]]
*[http://www.mygenes.co.nz/download.htm My genes made me do it!]

==See Also==
*[[Resources on becoming a Christian]]
* [[Homosexuality and the Bible]]
*[[Homosexuality and biblical interpretation]]
*[[Homosexuality and bestiality]]
*[[Ex-Homosexuals]]
*[[Teenager Homosexuality]]
*[[Homosexuality Research]]
*[[Homosexuality Statistics]]

==External Links==
*[http://www.allaboutworldview.org/causes-of-homosexuality-faq.htm What are some of the causes of homosexuality?]
*[http://ankerberg.org/Articles/_PDFArchives/streams-of-life/SL2W0803.pdf What Causes Homosexuality] by Dr. John F. Ankerberg
* [http://www.godandscience.org/evolution/genetics_of_homosexuality.html Rich Deem, ''Genetics and Homosexuality: Are People Born Gay? The Biological Basis for Sexual Orientation]

==References==
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2013-01-23T23:41:24Z

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Robert Bork

2013-01-23T23:40:04Z

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Judge '''Robert H. Bork''' (1927-2012) served as Solicitor General, acting [[Attorney General]], and circuit judge for [[United States Court of Appeals]]. He was nominated to the [[U.S. Supreme Court]] by President [[Ronald Reagan]] in 1987, but was "borked" (defeated by the [[Democrat]]-controlled [[U.S. Senate]] because he was not [[liberal]] enough for them).<ref>See [[Essay:Best New Conservative Words]].</ref> Bork went on to become a leading [[conservative]] commentator against [[judicial activism]], and was renowned as an expert in antitrust law.

== Cox firing ==

On Saturday October 20, 1973, independent special Watergate prosecutor [[Archibald Cox]] issued a subpoena asking for tapes of the Oval Office conversations secretly recorded by President [[Richard Nixon]], and the President ordered Attorney General Elliot Richardson to fire Cox. Richardson resigned instead, and the President ordered Deputy Attorney General William Ruckelshaus to fire Cox, but Ruckelshaus also resigned. Finally Nixon convinced Solicitor General Robert Bork, as acting head of the [[Justice Department]], to fire Cox, and Bork complied. This had an impact upon the Congress's bills of impeachment against Nixon.

== Supreme Court Nomination ==

In 1987, President [[Ronald Reagan]] nominated Robert Bork to the [[Supreme Court]], but his confirmation did not pass Senate vote when a coalition led by [[Ted Kennedy]] led a misinformation campaign against him. 52 out of 54 Democrats voted against him<ref>http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/24/us/senate-s-roll-call-on-the-bork-vote.html</ref> after a highly partisan confirmation hearing that was such a farce that it inspired a new verb, "borked", to mean an orchestrated campaign of distortions and vilification to defeat someone for political motivation.

Bork was best known as a legal expert who has advocated a judicial philosophy called originalism. Bork has authored many best-selling books, and served on the advisory board of the [[American Civil Rights Union]].

== References ==

<references/>

==See also==
* [[Right to Privacy]]
== External Links ==

* http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Robert_Bork
==Further reading==
* Bork, Robert H. ''The Tempting of America: The Political Seduction of the Law'' (1990) [http://www.amazon.com/TEMPTING-AMERICA-Robert-H-Bork/dp/0684843374/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250059034&sr=1-5 excerpt and text search]
* Bork, Robert H. ''Slouching Towards Gomorrah: Modern Liberalism and American Decline'' (2003) [http://www.amazon.com/Slouching-Towards-Gomorrah-Liberalism-American/dp/0060573112/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1250059034&sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]
* Bork, Robert H. ''A Time to Speak: Selected Writings and Arguments'' (2008)

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Abstinence education

2013-01-23T23:34:18Z

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'''Abstinence education''' encourages unmarried teens to refrain from premarital sex for reasons of emotional, spiritual and physical health.
{{cquote|"Abstinence Programs Show Promise in Reducing Sexual Activity and Pregnancy Among Teens," an article printed by Family Research Council, states that an abstinence program for girls in the Washington D.C. area called [[Best Friends]] reported only one out of 400 girls become pregnant since the program began (1). Between 20 and 70 pregnancies are common for the same sized group of fifth to ninth grade girls in the District of Columbia" (1). Upon adopting an abstinence-only curriculum by Teen-Aid, Inc. entitled "Sexuality, Commitment, and Family", at San Marcos Junior High in San Marcos, California, only 20 girls became pregnant in two years compared to 147 girls the year before (1). Nathan Hale Middle School in a Chicago suburb had a number of already pregnant girls at which time they adopted an abstinence program. Many parents were skeptical until the school graduated three pregnancy-free classes in a row (2). <ref>[http://www.unm.edu/~abqteach/hdm/00-02-08.htm "Cost and Benefits of Life-Style Choices", Phyllis Sandoval] </ref>}}
Conversely,
{{cquote|"Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence and are significantly less likely to use condoms and other forms of birth control when they do, according to a study released today.
The new analysis of data from a large federal survey found that more than half of youths became sexually active before marriage regardless of whether they had taken a "virginity pledge," but that the percentage who took precautions against pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases was 10 points lower for pledgers than for non-pledgers. <ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/another_study_shows_failure_of.php</ref>}}

== Criticism ==
Abstinence education is often criticized by [[liberal]] groups such as the American Psychological Association<ref>[http://www.apa.org/releases/sexeducation.html Comprehensive Sex Education is More Effective at Stopping the Spread of HIV Infection]</ref> and those opposed to a [[Biblical]] worldview. This is done primarily to advance the [[liberal agenda]] by promoting teen [[promiscuity]] and [[homosexuality]].

==Notes==
<references/>

[[Category:Education]]

Abstinence education

2013-01-23T23:33:29Z

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'''Abstinence education''' encourages unmarried teens to refrain from premarital sex for reasons of emotional, spiritual and physical health.
{{cquote|"Abstinence Programs Show Promise in Reducing Sexual Activity and Pregnancy Among Teens," an article printed by Family Research Council, states that an abstinence program for girls in the Washington D.C. area called [[Best Friends]] reported only one out of 400 girls become pregnant since the program began (1). Between 20 and 70 pregnancies are common for the same sized group of fifth to ninth grade girls in the District of Columbia" (1). Upon adopting an abstinence-only curriculum by Teen-Aid, Inc. entitled "Sexuality, Commitment, and Family", at San Marcos Junior High in San Marcos, California, only 20 girls became pregnant in two years compared to 147 girls the year before (1). Nathan Hale Middle School in a Chicago suburb had a number of already pregnant girls at which time they adopted an abstinence program. Many parents were skeptical until the school graduated three pregnancy-free classes in a row (2). <ref>[http://www.unm.edu/~abqteach/hdm/00-02-08.htm "Cost and Benefits of Life-Style Choices", Phyllis Sandoval] </ref>}}
Conversely,
{{cquote|"Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence and are significantly less likely to use condoms and other forms of birth control when they do, according to a study released today.
The new analysis of data from a large federal survey found that more than half of youths became sexually active before marriage regardless of whether they had taken a "virginity pledge," but that the percentage who took precautions against pregnancy or sexually transmitted diseases was 10 points lower for pledgers than for non-pledgers. <ref>[http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2009/01/another_study_shows_failure_of.php</ref>}}

== Criticism ==
Abstinence education is often criticized by [[liberal]] groups such as the American Psychological Association.<ref>[http://www.apa.org/releases/sexeducation.html Comprehensive Sex Education is More Effective at Stopping the Spread of HIV Infection]</ref> This is done primarily to advance the [[liberal agenda]] by promoting teen [[promiscuity]] and [[homosexuality]].

==Notes==
<references/>

[[Category:Education]]

Academy Award

2012-12-22T17:59:39Z

DouglasA: /* Awards */ rmv hollywood trivia

The '''Academy Awards''' (the "Oscars") is a motion picture awards show that has become an increasingly [[left-wing]] display of [[political correctness]] by [[Hollywood]], held annually in February in [[California]]. Traditionally it was a yearly award festival for movies, given by the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences since 1929.<ref name="about">{{cite web|url=http://www.oscars.org/aboutacademyawards/index.html|title=About the Academy Awards|work=Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences|format=HTML|language=English}}</ref>
[[Image:Oscar statuette.jpg|right|200px|thumb|The Statue]]

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has, over the years, been controlled by many immoral characters and informal lobby groups, most notably [[homosexual]]s and communists and supporters of [[Al Gore]] who wish to contribute to the promotion and funding for "global warming" causes by giving him "critical acclaim."<ref>Notably Milk, a nominee for best picture at the 81st Academy Awards. Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth has also won two Oscars for "Best Documentary" and "Best Original Song."</ref> Conservatives are regularly passed over, despite the superiority of their work/acting, and lifetime achievement awards are doled out to those who have been active in liberal politics.

==History==
The first awards were presented at a private dinner with an audience of less than 250.<ref name="about2"/> Subsequently the show has been broadcast to the public, since 1953 by [[television]] (and previously by [[radio]]).<ref name="about2"/> For the first decade the show's results were given to newspapers for publication at 11 p.m. at the night of the awards; this method was ruined when the [[Los Angeles Times]] announced the winners far too early, and the results were available to those arriving to the show, and, as a result, the Academy adopted the sealed envelope method, which it still uses today.<ref name="history">{{cite web|url=http://www.oscars.org/aboutacademyawards/history01.html|title=History of the Academy Awards|work=Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences|language=English|format=HTML}}</ref> The show was broadcast internationally starting in 1969, and currently has viewers from more than 100 countries. Since 2002, the awards have been broadcast from the Kodak Theatre.<ref name="history"/>

==Nominations==
Today, according to Rules 2 and 3 of the official Academy Awards Rules, a film must open in the previous calendar year, from midnight at the start of January 1 to midnight at the end of December 31, in [[Los Angeles]] County, [[California]], to qualify. Rule 2 states that a film must be "feature-length", defined as a minimum of 40 minutes, except for short subject awards and it must exist either on a 35 mm or 70 mm film print or on 24 fps or 48 fps progressive scan digital film print with native resolution not less than 1280x720.

==Awards night==
The major awards are given out at a live televised ceremony, most commonly in February or March following the relevant calendar year, and six weeks after the announcement of the nominees. Many hollywood elites attend, men dressed in tuxedos and the women dressed in expensive evening gown's. The Awards show was first televised on NBC in 1953, it is the only awards ceremony televised live across the United States excluding [[Alaska]] and [[Hawaii]]; the Emmys, Golden Globes, and Grammys are broadcast live in the East Coast, but they are on tape delay in the West Coast.

==Criticism==
The Academy Awards have often been criticized for being overly [[liberal]].<ref>[http://newsbusters.org/node/4271 ABC Pot Calls Kettle Black: Oscars Too Political?]</ref> Many celebrities make political statements in their acceptance speeches. Studios also lobby heavily for their films to be considered, leading to the complaint that nominations and awards may be largely a result of this lobbying rather than the quality of the material. In recent years, the Academy has selected liberal activists to host the awards such as [[Whoopi Goldberg]], [[Chris Rock]] and [[Jon Stewart]], who tend to target conservatives in their opening monologues, especially [[George W. Bush]].

At the 2009 Oscars, the Academy nominated "Milk", a [[gay pride]] film, for the Best Picture Oscar. When [[Sean Penn]] accepted the Best Actor oscar for portraying the title character, he took the opportunity to criticize those who voted to ban gay marriage, and to praise [[Barack Obama]]. Presenter Whoopi Goldberg also took the opportunity to blast Nuns as she described nominee Amy Adams in the Supporting Actress category.

==References==
<references/>
== See also ==
*[[Hollywood]]
*[[Bollywood]]

==External links==
* [http://www.aggdata.com/awards/oscar List of Academy Award Nominees]
* [http://www.oscars.org/ Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences]
* [http://www.oscars.org/awardsdatabase/index.html The Academy Awards Database]
* [http://movies.aol.com/oscars-academy-awards Oscars Photos] Moviefone.
* [[http://www.oscars.org/mhl/index.html The Margaret Herrick Library]
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Jane Austen

2012-12-22T17:48:27Z

DouglasA:

'''Jane Austen''' (December 16, 1775 – July 18, 1817) was a British writer in the early nineteenth century.
Her works include various comic stories, six completed novels, and two unfinished novels, but her best-known works may be ''[[Pride and Prejudice]]'' and ''[[Emma]]''.

She wrote her first two works, ''[[Sense and Sensibility]]'' and ''Pride and Prejudice'', in her early twenties. ''Northanger Abbey'', her third manuscript, sold to a publisher for ten pounds, but was not immediately published.

Austen's family moved to Bath when she was 25. This marks the beginning of a fallow period in her writing, and eight years of much family upheaval. In 1809, Austen, her sisters, and her mother moved to Chawton, where she was able to write again.

''Sense and Sensibility'' was finally published in 1811, and ''Pride and Prejudice'' followed in 1813. ''Mansfield Park'' and ''Emma'' followed in 1814 and 1815. Austen finished her work ''Persuasion'' in 1816, when the rights for ''Northanger Abbey'' were bought back by Austen's brother.

Jane Austen died July 18, 1817, just a few months before her last two novels were published together in December, finally identifying her and her previous works.

==Novel outlines==
In ''Pride and Prejudice'', the two antagonists are the immensely wealthy Mr. Darcy and the middle-class Elizabeth Bennet. Her [[prejudice]] against his [[pride]] and disdain is gradually broken down by his kindness.

In ''Emma'', the protagonist, Emma Woodhouse, is a comically incompetent matchmaker who almost misses her own true love.

==External links==
*[http://www.jimandellen.org/austen/janeausten.onfilm.html Film Adaptations of Jane Austen's Novels]
*[http://www.pemberley.com Online appreciation of Jane Austen fansite]
*[http://www.jasna.org/info/about_austen.html]
*[http://www.janeausten.co.uk/ The Jane Austin Center, Bath]

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[[category:Women Authors]]

Talk:Conservapedia proven right

2012-02-29T17:38:24Z

DouglasA: /* What is the point of this article ? */

The two rows about gold seem repetitive. How about combining into only one row?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:23, 20 November 2011 (EST)
:::It is a lot of information plus Conservapedia mentioned gold and precious metals a lot. But at the same time reportedly positively about having a broad commodity strategy if possible. I think it would make a very long single entry. I will look at it though. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] 15:18, 20 November 2011 (EST)
::::::I will combine them. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]]

== Neutrinos and the speed of light ==

The article claims that Conservapedia's prediction about the theory of General Relativity being wrong was proven by Neutrinos travelling faster that the speed of light. It has recently been found that this is in fact false, the accuracy of the measurements was affected by a loose fibre optic cable <ref>http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/official-word-on-superluminal-ne.html?ref=hp</ref>. Shall I remove this claim?

:The issue remains unresolved, rather than the claim by the scientists having been proven false. Feel free to edit accordingly.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 10:54, 29 February 2012 (EST)

::Thanks for the help Andy. Sorry, I'm new so I thought I would ask. Either way, the statement is invalid as there is reasonable concern that the results are inaccurate. I will delete it for now as it will save face for Conservapedia. But if the anomaly is still present (as some physicists believe it will be), then we can always re-insert it.--[[User:JeremyK|JeremyK]] 11:23, 29 February 2012 (EST)

== Cristie and Palin ==

If Conservapedia thought those two weren't likely nominees why is [[Presidential Election 2012|Palin still listed as one]] and [http://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Presidential_Election_2012&diff=938676&oldid=937791 Christie was only removed as a potential nominee only two days ago]?

:The way that mathematical probabilities work, nobody, including Palin, has an absolute zero probability of being nominated. An absolute zero probability for an uncertainty is, by definition, impossible.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:05, 22 November 2011 (EST)

== Newt Gingrich ==

*Conservapedia statement: "Newt Gingrich is the most likely to win the Republican nomination for President"
*Ranking of Potential Republican Candidates by Likelihood of Winning Nomination as per the linked article right now: #1 - Mitt Romney
So Conservapedia is proven right for a prediction it's not making anymore? Oh, let me guess: If Mitt Romney wins the nomination after all, you will again claim that Conservapedia is proven right by linking to the first version where he happened to be at the top?

Make up your mind - either actually promote Newt as your top choice or strike this out. It's not much of a prediction when you're basically playing "Heads, I win! Tails, you lose!" with the wiki revision system. ;) --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 17:41, 22 November 2011 (EST)
:I see that the "most likely" list at least reflects this "prediction" again. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 17:12, 27 November 2011 (EST)

== Britain, atheism and the World Cup ==

*Conservapedia statement: "Atheistic Britain would embarrass itself in the World Cup"
*Liberal claptrap in response: "Liberal denial shouts down any observation of the correlation between atheism and underachievement"
*Result: "'England's performance at South Africa 2010 was officially their worst at a World Cup finals, according to Fifa.'"
Uh... your logic isn't sound. You roughly guessed a soccer result correctly, but that doesn't prove anything about a supposed correlation between atheism and underachievement.

Let's look at the actual statistics and results:
*Both England and the religious USA dropped out in the Top 16 round.
*The Top 3 spots of the World Cup went to Spain, the Netherlands and Germany (in that order).
*[http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html This] site lists somewhat recent atheism/agnostic/nonbeliever rates per country:
**Spain: 15 - 24%
**Netherlands: 39 - 44%
**Germany: 41 - 49%
**Britain (as a yardstick for "atheistic country"): 31 - 44%
**USA (as a yardstick for a religious country): 3 - 9%
What was that? Correlation between atheism and underachieving? Citing the World Cup 2010 as an example? Not quite. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 18:08, 22 November 2011 (EST)

:Obviously nobody said atheism was the ''only'' factor. Of course there are other factors in fielding a successul soccer team, such as the level of interest in the sport.

:Looking at British soccer performance over time isolates the effect of atheism. As atheism has grown in Britain, it's ability to compete in the World Cup has fallen to pathetically weak levels. Atheism causes underachievement.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:09, 22 November 2011 (EST)
::England's past World Cup ratings:
::*1950: '''8th'''
::*1954: '''6th'''
::*1958: 11th
::*1962: '''8th'''
::*1966: 1st
::*1970: '''8th'''
::*1974: not qualified
::*1978: not qualified
::*1982: '''6th'''
::*1986: '''8th'''
::*1990: '''4th'''
::*1994: not qualified
::*1998: 9th
::*2002: '''6th'''
::*2006: '''7th'''
::*2010: 13th
::Whenever England qualified for a World Cup, it ended up in the Top 16. And I highlighted (in bold) the times in which England made it at least into the quarterfinals. Fallen to pathetically weak levels? During the last three World Cups, England twice had one of the best eight teams on the planet. Or are you claiming that there was a sudden atheism spike between 2006 and 2010?
::Also, the FIFA World Rankings currently rank England as #7, and the [http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtools/compareteams.html#g=m&t1=ENG&t2=ENG&t3=ENG&t4=ENG&dRange=4&fm=8&fy=1993&tm=11&ty=2011 trend there] isn't exactly indicating growing failure.
::So let's do this right. What are your sources for the claim that "atheism has grown in Britain"? How much during what time period? And then we can see how that compares to the the World Cup and the World Ranking.
::And you claim that atheism causes underachievement, but completely fail to address how the atheism in other countries somehow isn't causing underachievement there. You can't make a claim and then only consider a single country with "high" levels of atheism. How do you explain that the best three teams during the last World Cup have high atheism rates? Why aren't highly religious countries doing better?
::Sorry, but I don't see this going anywhere. You considered only a single data point (the performance of a single team during a single World Cup) to make a claim that doesn't seem to fit the moment you expand the scope at all. You called a single team's performance during a single event correctly, but that doesn't make your reasoning right. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 20:32, 22 November 2011 (EST)

== Earthquakes ==

I'm surprised that this is ''still'' doing its rounds: It's wrong.

I don't even have to make a longwinded speech; just look at [[Talk:Main Page/Archive index/102#Severe_earthquakes_double_every_40_years.3F|this]] discussion and also at [[Talk:Counterexamples to an Old Earth#Major_earthquakes_are_doubling_every_40_years.3F|this]] one. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 18:13, 22 November 2011 (EST)

== Jon Stewart Curse ==
Since the "prediction" was made, Stewart hasn't actually been in any movies. Hosting the Academy Awards was not movie acting. If you want to count "has appeared in front of a camera" as movie acting, then The Daily Show also counts, and it does [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394561/The-force-Jon-Stewart-Daily-Shows-ratings-higher-FOX-News.html very] well. In addition, this prediction was originally made by somebody who was banned as a vandal. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 17:12, 27 November 2011 (EST)

==What is the point of this article ?==
It just look like boasting. And I shall remind you that ''"As it is, you boast in your arrogance. All such boasting is evil."'' - James 4:16 --[[User:PhilipN|PhilipN]] 23:10, 8 February 2012 (EST)

:''Neither do men light a candle and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick, and it giveth light unto all that are in the house.'' - Matthew 5:15. Your move!--[[User:CPalmer|CPalmer]] 11:45, 29 February 2012 (EST)
::Admittedly, the title is a bit on the nose. I'm inclined to change it to "Conservapedia prescience" or "Presience of conservative insight." Or simply "Conservative Insight." [[User:DouglasA|DouglasA]] 12:38, 29 February 2012 (EST)

== Gay penguin ==

Isn't it possible (and indeed more likely) that the penguin was never gay in the first place? I can't really picture one penguin (peacefully or otherwise) convincing another penguin to change from his ways. There are no penguin therapy support groups. Either way, Conservapedia is right about the gay animal myth (either he's an ex-homosexual or he never was one in the first place). But I do think that possibility is worth mentioning. I'm not sure how to word it though. [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 22:44, 9 February 2012 (EST)

== References ==

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