Talk:Gallery of British Heroes

2012-10-26T13:15:32Z

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Currently a mixture of political figures, scientists & writers. Also heavily limited by how few of these we have pictures of (& me without upload rights). If anybody (with upload rights) wants to help add to this, [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2208671.stm these] [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2208671.stm two] lists make a good starting point. The most important ones we're currently missing pictures of are [[Henry V]], [[Queen Victoria]], [[Florence Nightingale]], and [[John Lennon]] &/or [[Paul McCartney]]. - [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 19:37, 18 December 2008 (EST)

: Good work, congratulations. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 22:13, 18 December 2008 (EST)

::Thank you. Any chance you upload a picture of any of those people I mentioned above? I know you're one of the main guys for illustrations. It would be greatly appreciated. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 22:17, 18 December 2008 (EST)
:::Now added. Thanks. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 23:29, 18 December 2008 (EST)

:What about people like Montgomery? Baden Powell? Conan Doyle? Lewis Carroll? Also, if John and Paul are there, should George and Ringo not be there too? --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]][[User talk:JessicaT|''ohayougozaimasu'']] 16:59, 21 December 2008 (EST)

It is pretty interesting that King Arthur is on the list, there are no direct evidences to suggest he was really exist. He probably is just a myth. For Diana, I don't know if she has made any achievements that can be called a hero. She is just popular, but you can't call someone a hero just because she is popular. Her style of personal life also will not make Conservatives feel very comfortable.

For Steven Hawking, since this website is described as a Christian website. These heroes also will be called heroes for Conservatives .But Steven Hawking is atheist, he openly said there is no God. Although he can be called a hero on his personal life.

Also, I think you should add Alfred the great as a British hero; He successfully defended England from Vikings and protected the churches there. He is the only British monarchy being called “the great”. Richard the Lionheart also should be here since he greatly fought for Christians and thousands of pilgrims can travel to Jerusalem safely since he forced Saladin to accept his agreement. Although as a king, he didn’t stay at England too much.
Edmund Burke also should here since he is a Conservative hero. --[[User:Conservativedreams|Conservativedreams]] 23:43, 25 October 2012 (EDT)

:Alfred's already there (no.2) In 30 seconds I came up with: St. Dunstan, Bede, Stephen Langton, Chaucer, Donne, William Byrd, Hennry Purcell, RVW, Ben Britten, Isaac Watt, John Watt, W.G.Grace, James Cook, the Wesley brothers, and (because I'm silly and of an age,) Judi Dench. [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 01:04, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

James Watt and James Cook are good choices.--[[User:Conservativedreams|Conservativedreams]] 09:15, 26 October 2012 (EDT)

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Essay:Liberal Denials about History

2012-10-22T13:51:06Z

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Here are [[liberal]] denials about history, with the result that virtually no textbooks teach them.

== General denials ==

The following truths about history are typically denied by liberal history textbooks:

#That "Yankee ingenuity" (American inventions) far surpassed the rest of the world, and brought great wealth to it.
#That military battles are an essential part of history, and of preserving freedom.
#That there were valid reasons for past opposition to immigration which had nothing to do with racism; immigration did not enable the North to beat the South.
#That unions caused great harm, including senseless violence and lost jobs.
#That hard work was the key to the success of many Americans.
#That most great Americans, from Abraham Lincoln to Thomas Edison, were homeschooled.
#That [[Abraham Lincoln]]'s [[faith]] grew while he was President.
#That [[Benjamin Franklin]] abandoned the [[Deism]] of his youth later in his life.
#That [[Thomas Jefferson]]'s religious beliefs were not representative of the other [[Founding Fathers]].
#That [[Rhode Island]] and [[Thomas Jefferson]], and their view of a "separation of church and state," had no role in the formation of the [[Constitution]].
#That there were [[conservative]] Presidents before [[Ronald Reagan]], such as [[George Washington]], [[James Monroe]] and [[Grover Cleveland]].
#That "anti-imperialism" movements against the United States were really communist or Muslim movements against Christianity, as in denying the Islamic basis for the Philippine insurgency around 1900.
#That the colony and state of "Virginia" was named after the "Virgin Queen" Elizabeth.
#That the colony and state of Maryland was named after Queen Henrietta Maria.
#That President [[FDR]] did not end the [[Great Depression]], and may have prolonged it.
#That President [[LBJ]]'s [[Great Society]] did little to alleviate poverty.
#That President [[Ronald Reagan]]'s foreign policy was key to ending the Cold War.
#That NO "[[triangular trade]]" existed in the 17th and 18th centuries with the New World<ref>In fact, no specific "triangular" trade route has ever been identified and it is unlikely that there was significant sale of goods to Africa at that time. The term was invented by an historian more than 100 years later.</ref>
#That the [[Catholic Church]] has a history of promoting science, not suppressing it.
#That European Colonialism actually greatly helped people all over the world. Including brought Western technologies to uncivilized areas, spreading of the democratic ideas and saving of millions of people’s life by Western medical technologies.
#That the Crusades are holy and noble movements to protect Christian pilgrims and taking back Christian holy lands which invaded and occupied by Muslims previously. Although some of them joined by selfish motivations.
#That as an Intelligence agency, CIA was crucial for the Free world to defeat communism and their agents made huge sacrifices to defend our freedom.
#That it is Muslims whom always seek to conquer Christians and the West, Christians and Westerns are the victims, not Muslims.

== General bias ==

#Standard textbooks mislead students into thinking that contributions to history were somehow based more on status than by effort or Providence. This bias is a form of [[Essay:Status Worship|status worship]].
#Standard textbooks emphasize material things (like race, gender, wealth, scarcity) at the expense of the more important role played by ideas and "the power of the pen."
#Standard textbooks overemphasize the significance of popularity (e.g [[JFK]]).
#Standard textbooks mislead students into thinking that presidential elections (which are usually just determined by the economic cycle) are more significant than warranted.
#Standard textbooks ignore or deceive students about the fact that most great contributions to western society have been made by conservative Christians.
#Standard textbooks portray all presidents have being comparable in effectiveness and accomplishment, when in fact some were successful and some were failures.

== Specific truths that history books deny or distort==

#[[Rhode Island]] was the only state to separate church and state, and as a result it became the biggest importer of slaves.<ref>"The largest slave trading ports in America were located in Rhode Island and soon rivaled those of Liverpool. The wealth and economy of New England was based solely on slave trading and exporting rum; and the southern most colonies were NOT part of that odious slave trade."[http://www.floridareenactorsonline.com/realslavetraders.htm]</ref>
#[[Thomas Jefferson]] was not as successful or important as liberals claim;<ref>For example, Jefferson was given a wealthy estate but died in substantial debt.</ref> He failed personally and as president, especially in his second term.
#[[Chivalry]] was customary throughout most of American history.
#The greatest corruption in government during the Grant Administration was by the Democratic-controlled "[[Tammany Hall]]."
#The misnamed "[[Gilded Age]]" generated tremendous prosperity for the world, thanks to an absence of stifling regulation.
#[[Public school]] education in its current form in the U.S.A. is less than 100 years old.
#[[Atheist]] materialism lay behind the genocidal crimes of the [[Nazi]]s
#[[Martin Luther King]] was a Republican who preached Conservative values.
#[[Lenin]] was a ruthless and violent dictator who oppressed the people of the [[Soviet Union]] as thoroughly as [[Stalin]].
#[[Nazism]], with its insistence on the collective, was a [[left-wing]] doctrine.
#That the Democratic Party supported slavery, while the Republican party opposed it. It should be remembered that the platforms of the parties have flip-flopped at the time. At the time, the Democratic Party was the conservative party.
#The history of the "[[State of Franklin]]."
#The reason the first Crusade was a succeed is because it is God's plan.
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== References ==

<references/>

[[Category:United States History Essays]]

Essay:Liberal Denials about History

2012-10-22T13:34:15Z

Conservativedreams: /* General denials */

Here are [[liberal]] denials about history, with the result that virtually no textbooks teach them.

== General denials ==

The following truths about history are typically denied by liberal history textbooks:

#That "Yankee ingenuity" (American inventions) far surpassed the rest of the world, and brought great wealth to it.
#That military battles are an essential part of history, and of preserving freedom.
#That there were valid reasons for past opposition to immigration which had nothing to do with racism; immigration did not enable the North to beat the South.
#That unions caused great harm, including senseless violence and lost jobs.
#That hard work was the key to the success of many Americans.
#That most great Americans, from Abraham Lincoln to Thomas Edison, were homeschooled.
#That [[Abraham Lincoln]]'s [[faith]] grew while he was President.
#That [[Benjamin Franklin]] abandoned the [[Deism]] of his youth later in his life.
#That [[Thomas Jefferson]]'s religious beliefs were not representative of the other [[Founding Fathers]].
#That [[Rhode Island]] and [[Thomas Jefferson]], and their view of a "separation of church and state," had no role in the formation of the [[Constitution]].
#That there were [[conservative]] Presidents before [[Ronald Reagan]], such as [[George Washington]], [[James Monroe]] and [[Grover Cleveland]].
#That "anti-imperialism" movements against the United States were really communist or Muslim movements against Christianity, as in denying the Islamic basis for the Philippine insurgency around 1900.
#That the colony and state of "Virginia" was named after the "Virgin Queen" Elizabeth.
#That the colony and state of Maryland was named after Queen Henrietta Maria.
#That President [[FDR]] did not end the [[Great Depression]], and may have prolonged it.
#That President [[LBJ]]'s [[Great Society]] did little to alleviate poverty.
#That President [[Ronald Reagan]]'s foreign policy was key to ending the Cold War.
#That NO "[[triangular trade]]" existed in the 17th and 18th centuries with the New World<ref>In fact, no specific "triangular" trade route has ever been identified and it is unlikely that there was significant sale of goods to Africa at that time. The term was invented by an historian more than 100 years later.</ref>
#That the [[Catholic Church]] has a history of promoting science, not suppressing it.
#That European Colonialism actually greatly helped people all over the world. Including brought Western technologies to uncivilized areas, spreading of the democratic ideas and saving of millions of people’s life by Western medical technologies.
#That the Crusades are holy and noble movements to protect Christian pilgrims and taking back Christian holy lands which invaded and occupied by Muslims previously. Although some of them joined by selfish motivates.
#That as an Intelligence agency, CIA was crucial for the Free world to defeat communism and their agents made huge sacrifices to defend our freedom.
#That it is Muslims whom always seek to conquer Christians and the West, Christians and Westerns are the victims, not Muslims.

== General bias ==

#Standard textbooks mislead students into thinking that contributions to history were somehow based more on status than by effort or Providence. This bias is a form of [[Essay:Status Worship|status worship]].
#Standard textbooks emphasize material things (like race, gender, wealth, scarcity) at the expense of the more important role played by ideas and "the power of the pen."
#Standard textbooks overemphasize the significance of popularity (e.g [[JFK]]).
#Standard textbooks mislead students into thinking that presidential elections (which are usually just determined by the economic cycle) are more significant than warranted.
#Standard textbooks ignore or deceive students about the fact that most great contributions to western society have been made by conservative Christians.
#Standard textbooks portray all presidents have being comparable in effectiveness and accomplishment, when in fact some were successful and some were failures.

== Specific truths that history books deny or distort==

#[[Rhode Island]] was the only state to separate church and state, and as a result it became the biggest importer of slaves.<ref>"The largest slave trading ports in America were located in Rhode Island and soon rivaled those of Liverpool. The wealth and economy of New England was based solely on slave trading and exporting rum; and the southern most colonies were NOT part of that odious slave trade."[http://www.floridareenactorsonline.com/realslavetraders.htm]</ref>
#[[Thomas Jefferson]] was not as successful or important as liberals claim;<ref>For example, Jefferson was given a wealthy estate but died in substantial debt.</ref> He failed personally and as president, especially in his second term.
#[[Chivalry]] was customary throughout most of American history.
#The greatest corruption in government during the Grant Administration was by the Democratic-controlled "[[Tammany Hall]]."
#The misnamed "[[Gilded Age]]" generated tremendous prosperity for the world, thanks to an absence of stifling regulation.
#[[Public school]] education in its current form in the U.S.A. is less than 100 years old.
#[[Atheist]] materialism lay behind the genocidal crimes of the [[Nazi]]s
#[[Martin Luther King]] was a Republican who preached Conservative values.
#[[Lenin]] was a ruthless and violent dictator who oppressed the people of the [[Soviet Union]] as thoroughly as [[Stalin]].
#[[Nazism]], with its insistence on the collective, was a [[left-wing]] doctrine.
#That the Democratic Party supported slavery, while the Republican party opposed it. It should be remembered that the platforms of the parties have flip-flopped at the time. At the time, the Democratic Party was the conservative party.
#The history of the "[[State of Franklin]]."
#The reason the first Crusade was a succeed is because it is God's plan.
(add more)

== References ==

<references/>

[[Category:United States History Essays]]

Essay:Liberal Denials about History

2012-10-22T13:17:41Z

Conservativedreams: /* Specific truths that history books deny or distort */

Here are [[liberal]] denials about history, with the result that virtually no textbooks teach them.

== General denials ==

The following truths about history are typically denied by liberal history textbooks:

#That "Yankee ingenuity" (American inventions) far surpassed the rest of the world, and brought great wealth to it.
#That military battles are an essential part of history, and of preserving freedom.
#That there were valid reasons for past opposition to immigration which had nothing to do with racism; immigration did not enable the North to beat the South.
#That unions caused great harm, including senseless violence and lost jobs.
#That hard work was the key to the success of many Americans.
#That most great Americans, from Abraham Lincoln to Thomas Edison, were homeschooled.
#That [[Abraham Lincoln]]'s [[faith]] grew while he was President.
#That [[Benjamin Franklin]] abandoned the [[Deism]] of his youth later in his life.
#That [[Thomas Jefferson]]'s religious beliefs were not representative of the other [[Founding Fathers]].
#That [[Rhode Island]] and [[Thomas Jefferson]], and their view of a "separation of church and state," had no role in the formation of the [[Constitution]].
#That there were [[conservative]] Presidents before [[Ronald Reagan]], such as [[George Washington]], [[James Monroe]] and [[Grover Cleveland]].
#That "anti-imperialism" movements against the United States were really communist or Muslim movements against Christianity, as in denying the Islamic basis for the Philippine insurgency around 1900.
#That the colony and state of "Virginia" was named after the "Virgin Queen" Elizabeth.
#That the colony and state of Maryland was named after Queen Henrietta Maria.
#That President [[FDR]] did not end the [[Great Depression]], and may have prolonged it.
#That President [[LBJ]]'s [[Great Society]] did little to alleviate poverty.
#That President [[Ronald Reagan]]'s foreign policy was key to ending the Cold War.
#That NO "[[triangular trade]]" existed in the 17th and 18th centuries with the New World<ref>In fact, no specific "triangular" trade route has ever been identified and it is unlikely that there was significant sale of goods to Africa at that time. The term was invented by an historian more than 100 years later.</ref>
#That the [[Catholic Church]] has a history of promoting science, not suppressing it.
#That European Colonialism actually greatly helped people all over the world. Including brought Western technologies to uncivilized areas, spreading of the democratic ideas and saving of millions of people’s life by Western medical technologies.
#That the Crusades are holy and noble movements to protect Christian pilgrims and taking back Christian holy lands which invaded and occupied by Muslims previously. Although some of them joined by selfish motivates.
#That as an Intelligence agency, CIA was crucial for the Free world to defeat communism and their agents made huge sacrifices to defend our freedom.

== General bias ==

#Standard textbooks mislead students into thinking that contributions to history were somehow based more on status than by effort or Providence. This bias is a form of [[Essay:Status Worship|status worship]].
#Standard textbooks emphasize material things (like race, gender, wealth, scarcity) at the expense of the more important role played by ideas and "the power of the pen."
#Standard textbooks overemphasize the significance of popularity (e.g [[JFK]]).
#Standard textbooks mislead students into thinking that presidential elections (which are usually just determined by the economic cycle) are more significant than warranted.
#Standard textbooks ignore or deceive students about the fact that most great contributions to western society have been made by conservative Christians.
#Standard textbooks portray all presidents have being comparable in effectiveness and accomplishment, when in fact some were successful and some were failures.

== Specific truths that history books deny or distort==

#[[Rhode Island]] was the only state to separate church and state, and as a result it became the biggest importer of slaves.<ref>"The largest slave trading ports in America were located in Rhode Island and soon rivaled those of Liverpool. The wealth and economy of New England was based solely on slave trading and exporting rum; and the southern most colonies were NOT part of that odious slave trade."[http://www.floridareenactorsonline.com/realslavetraders.htm]</ref>
#[[Thomas Jefferson]] was not as successful or important as liberals claim;<ref>For example, Jefferson was given a wealthy estate but died in substantial debt.</ref> He failed personally and as president, especially in his second term.
#[[Chivalry]] was customary throughout most of American history.
#The greatest corruption in government during the Grant Administration was by the Democratic-controlled "[[Tammany Hall]]."
#The misnamed "[[Gilded Age]]" generated tremendous prosperity for the world, thanks to an absence of stifling regulation.
#[[Public school]] education in its current form in the U.S.A. is less than 100 years old.
#[[Atheist]] materialism lay behind the genocidal crimes of the [[Nazi]]s
#[[Martin Luther King]] was a Republican who preached Conservative values.
#[[Lenin]] was a ruthless and violent dictator who oppressed the people of the [[Soviet Union]] as thoroughly as [[Stalin]].
#[[Nazism]], with its insistence on the collective, was a [[left-wing]] doctrine.
#That the Democratic Party supported slavery, while the Republican party opposed it. It should be remembered that the platforms of the parties have flip-flopped at the time. At the time, the Democratic Party was the conservative party.
#The history of the "[[State of Franklin]]."
#The reason the first Crusade was a succeed is because it is God's plan.
(add more)

== References ==

<references/>

[[Category:United States History Essays]]