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		<title>Higgs boson</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Chasm: attributed the term, &amp;quot;God Particle&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;A '''Higgs boson''' is an elementary particle whose existence is predicted by the [[Standard Model]] of particle physics.  It serves a key role in explaining the origin of mass of other elementary particles of the Standard Model.  It has not yet been observed in nature, but it is expected to be seen at the Large Hadron Collider that is currently being built in Europe.  Physicist Leon Lederman coined and popularized the term &amp;quot;God Particle&amp;quot; to describe the Higgs boson.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/inourtime/inourtime_20041118.shtml ''BBC Radio 4: In Our Time &amp;quot; Higgs Boson - the search for the God particle&amp;quot;'']&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Music</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Chasm: /* Melody and counterpoint */&lt;/p&gt;
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[[Music]] (Middle English ''musik'', from Anglo-French ''musike'', from [[Latin]] ''musica'', from [[Greek]] μουσικη ''mousike'') is an [[art]] form consisting entirely of organized [[sound]] interspersed with periods of silence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&amp;amp;va=Music Music] defined in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It takes its name from three [[Greek mythology|Greek]] goddesses known as the ''[[Muses]]'', who specialized in stimulation of an artist's or poet's mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music is the highest of all the arts, and the one best able to stir human emotion. Depending on what sort of work of music one composes, interprets, or hears, it can build a person up in spirit, or break it; make a person happy, or sad; inspire a person to greatness, or lead him into very challenging temptation. It is the art form to which the [[Bible]] gives its strongest endorsement, and to which the Bible pays the greatest attention. At the same time, it is arguably the most dangerous of all the arts, when misused.&amp;lt;ref name=Brown&amp;gt;Brown, Alan B.: telephone interview conducted on 1 March 2007 with user [[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== What is music? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Strictly speaking, ''music'' means sound having any organization at all, while ''noise'' is purely random sound. But the roots of these two words suggest that ''music'' ought to mean that which makes one think and feel something new and significantly different, while ''noise'' (from the same root from which we get the verb ''I annoy'') is merely a distracting, disturbing, or often physically damaging sound. Some modern composers have attempted to stretch the definition of music by using noises in a manner that they insist is organized. Whether such a work product properly falls under the heading of &amp;quot;music&amp;quot; is debatable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that music is ''not'' limited to such sounds that a human being might produce by fashioning an instrument for the making of a simplified or otherwise organized sound and then &amp;quot;playing&amp;quot; said instrument. The chirping of birds and certain insects may properly be called music, especially if the sound produced is particularly pleasant to the listener. Furthermore, some of the most sophisticated music attempts to imitate the sounds made by birds, insects, and other animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basic music theory ==&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Music theory]]''&lt;br /&gt;
Classically, music consists of ''tones'', ''melodies'', ''counterpoint'', and ''rhythm''. A ''tone'' is the purest form of sound, having a single [[frequency]]. However, pure tones in music are rare. Most tones present themselves to the human ear together with ''overtones'', which typically are small-[[integer]] multiples of the basic frequency (the ''fundamental tone'').&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes, intervals, and scales ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two tones played together form an ''interval''. The simplest of all intervals is the ''octave'', formed by two tones, one of whose frequencies is the exact double of the other. The full collection of tones that one can play between the two notes of an octave is called a ''scale.'' In Western music, most scales are ''semi-tonal'', with twelve tones between the octave notes. (The high end of the octave is considered a repetition of the low end, but at twice the frequency.) [[Oriental]] music commonly has ''quarter-tonal'' scales, with twenty-four separate tones within an octave. Quarter tones are often difficult to distinguish for a Western listener, and such music, as a result, tends to suggest the sinuous movement of a snake.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Greece|Greeks]] recognized early that fundamental tones in music have a simple and strict [[mathematics|mathematical]] relationship. As mentioned, the octave consists of two notes, one at double the frequency of the other. At ''triple'' the frequency, one hears a low fundamental tone, and a higher tone that is past the octave but roughly midway toward the second octave. If one then divides the high-tone frequency by two, one creates the interval called the ''perfect fifth'' or ''dominant'' interval, one of the most common intervals used in Western music. One can test this relationship by striking a note on a [[piano]] while holding down another key that is one octave higher than the perfect fifth. The second note will sound in sympathy with the first--because it is resonating with the overtone from the first note.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Melody and counterpoint ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Melody'' is the series of notes that most closely captures the attention of the listener: the 'tune' one hums along with.  &lt;br /&gt;
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''Counterpoint'' is a specific technique for creating secondary melodies that intertwine with and compliment the main melody. When two or more notes sound at the same time, it is called a ''chord,'' and the distance between the notes is the ''interval.''  In the western 12-note scale common usage, an interval is often  expressed in relative terms, using the eight notes that make up an octave and prefixing 'major' or 'minor' to account for the interstitial notes.  For instance, the interval between 'C' and 'E' is a ''3rd'' because 'E' is the 3rd note in the major scale of C.  One-half step below that is a ''minor 3rd,'' although this exact same note could also be called a ''major 2nd''.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Many of the feelings and emotions that music can evoke are a result of the tension between the ''harmonic'' sound of some intervals, and the ''dissonant'' sound of others.  During the development of western music, certain rules were established for proper melodic counterpoint, and these rules specified how intervals (chords) could change over time in the music.  For example, in the chants of Gregorian Monks, chords containing certain intervals, like 7ths, were required to 'resolve' to their harmonious natural key, while other intervals, like minor 5ths, were deemed ugly and even considered evil, and banned from use in liturgic music.  Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) represents the pinnacle of this style of strict rule-based composition, as many of his keyboard compositions and all of his sacred work adhere to the rules of counterpoint.  From the height of the Baroque era (1700's) to the present, the history of western music has unfolded as each generation of composers has pushed the boundaries of these these rules right up to, and then in the 20th century, way beyond, all limits.&lt;br /&gt;
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In modern popular music, the bass line is often seen as an example of counterpoint.  Another, more accurate example would be dueling guitar leads.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Rhythm ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Rhythm'' consists of all aspects of music that suggest ''forward movement.'' Most music contains a regularly repeating sequence of ''beats'', or strong elements, that typically lead with a ''down beat'' followed by any of a small number of slightly weaker beats. A down beat and its weaker beats form a ''measure.'' Usually, all measures in a piece of music have the same number of beats.&lt;br /&gt;
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A note in music is described not only by pitch, or frequency, but also by duration. Notes in Western music have names that typically describe how long they would sound in a typical measure. ''Whole notes'' are so called because normally they would sound for the full measure. ''Half notes'' would sound for half the measure, ''quarter notes'' for a fourth of the measure, and so on. A note may also carry a ''dot'' to the right of it, that indicates that the note is to sound for one and one-half times its usual duration.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any one of these notes may carry a beat, and a measure may have any number of beats. Thus every piece of music commonly carries at least one ''time signature'' describing how many beats a measure has, and which type of note carries one beat. The most common time is &amp;quot;four-quarter time&amp;quot; (four beats per measure, with the beat given to the quarter note), which is therefore called &amp;quot;common time.&amp;quot; Other commonly used time signature include three-quarter, six-eighth, nine-eighth, or rarely, two-half (called ''Alla breve'' or &amp;quot;cut time&amp;quot;). Even rarer are the time signatures with prime numbers of beats (other than three-quarter), including five-quarter or even eleven-eighth.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Tempo'' (Italian for &amp;quot;time&amp;quot;) describes how frequently the beats occur. The typical tempo signature is a drawing of the note that has the beat, followed by the number of beats per minute.&lt;br /&gt;
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Notes may be ''accented'' at any time. In fact, often the accent will fall on the weak beat and make the beats seem to sound out-of-sequence. The result is ''syncopated'' rhythm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The genre of music called [[rock and roll]] features a unique rhythm convention: the ''backbeat.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/12/07/RockRules Normative Backbeat] at Tbray.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a third beat, in four-quarter time, that is stressed even more strongly than the down beat. This produces a profound sense of restlessness in the listener.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types of instruments ==&lt;br /&gt;
: ''Main Article: [[Musical instruments]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Bible]] suggests that music actually began in [[heaven]], and that the first musician was [[Satan|Lucifer]], then the chief of [[God]]'s messengers, or [[angels]]. According to Scripture, after Lucifer fell, his choir fell with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Human music goes back to [[antediluvian civilization]]. The Bible specifically credits [[Jubal]], son of [[Lamech the Murderer]] by his wife [[Adah]], with introducing music to mankind.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=5|verses=19-21|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest ''post''-diluvian records of music have been found in [[Iraq]] and [[India]], and date at least from the time of [[Abraham]]. They probably were made shortly after the construction of the [[Tower of Babel].&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost every culture and religious movement has its own particular form of music. Some forms are richer and more sophisticated than others. The [[Hebrew]] people, and especially the children of [[Jacob|Israel]], have some of the grandest of all musical traditions. Mentions of &amp;quot;singing to the Lord&amp;quot; abound in the Old Testament. The most specific testimony to the power of music over human emotions is surely contained in the story of King [[Saul]] and how he came to recruit the young [[David]] as his armorbearer and personal musician.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=I_Samuel|chap=16|verses=14-23|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]], at the height of his reign, once had a ''four-thousand-voice choir'' to assist in the worship of [[God]]. The Book of [[Psalms]] is in fact a collection of lyrics for some of the first worship songs in Israelite tradition. (Most of these came from David, but at least one comes from [[Moses]].) The [[Song of Solomon]] is a grand ballad of love that most scholars regard as a type of the love of [[Jesus Christ]] for His elect.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Greeks, when [[Alexander the Great]] accepted the surrender of [[Jerusalem]] in his wars of conquest, introduced their own brand of music to the region--which the Jews largely resisted. But music was highly prominent throughout the Greek world--and later in the [[Rome|Roman]] world following Rome's conquest of Greece. The Greeks' contributions to music theory influenced artists for centuries to come, and still have a strong influence today, especially on composers who prefer to adhere to the classical traditions of music.&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest Greek music was associated with Greek [[theater]]. Beginning with the fall of Rome, however, music became largely liturgical. The primary influence remained the [[Roman Catholic Church]] until the twin movements of the Renaissance and the Reformation, each of which introduced a countervailing tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
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From that time forward, most scholars divide music into &amp;quot;classical&amp;quot; music (composed primarily to achieve a high art) and &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot; music (composed for the masses and tending to achieve wide, but ephemeral, appeal).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thefreedictionary.com/popular%20music Popular music] defined at the Free Dictionary&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Classical music&amp;quot; tends to rely more on written notation, as a piece of classical music is generally held to transcend any particular interpretation of it.  In current practice, such music is performed in concerts where the audience is expected to remain respectfully silent and the performers dress formally; however, in the past such music was often performed at salons and other informal private gatherings.  In addition, the increasing importance of the written transmission of such music has reduced the role of improvisation, which was extremely important through the beginning of the &amp;quot;Romantic&amp;quot; era.  Classical music also displays great musical complexity through the use of varied rhythms, chord progressions, counterpoint, and other compositional techniques, while maintaining a deep emotional content.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Popular music&amp;quot; on the other hand, tends to be more accessible to the general public through the use of simpler forms and relatively simple compositional techniques.  Much popular music is the product of modern business enterprise, as opposed to folk music (created by ordinary people for their own enjoyment) or classical music (which was originally written for religious practice or for the entertainment of the nobility).&lt;br /&gt;
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These two genres; however, are not necessarily distinct, as composers such as [[Johann Sebastian Bach|Bach]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] would often incorporate themes from &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; of their time into their works.  Other classical composers like [[Maurice Ravel|Ravel]] and [[George Gershwin|Gershwin]] were well-known for their use of jazz idiom in works like the Concerto in F for Piano and Orchestra and [[Rhapsody in Blue]].  On the other hand, popular music has borrowed many themes from classical works (one notable example is &amp;quot;A Whiter Shade of Pale&amp;quot; by [[Procol Harum]]).  In addition, &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; is not necessarily simpler than classical, as forms like jazz and progressive rock make use of complex time signatures that do not often occur in classical works, and some popular musicians like [[Frank Zappa]] are considered serious composers in their own right.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Different uses of classical and popular music ===&lt;br /&gt;
Classical music has typically found these uses:&lt;br /&gt;
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# As an aid to worship, by placing the listener into a proper frame of mind for worship or instill in the listener a proper appreciation of the grandeur and glory of [[God]] and of the listener's own place in relation to Him.&lt;br /&gt;
# For the entertainment of the nobility; or, in more recent times, by commission from a particular group of people (often an orchestra or a university).&lt;br /&gt;
# To rally troops, either during training, on the march, or in battle.&lt;br /&gt;
# To celebrate military victory or the reign of a king, usually the one presently on the throne.&lt;br /&gt;
# Occasionally as a supplement to various forms of [[theater]]. Originally (especially in the Greek era) this meant the open-air live theater of classical fame. Today such music might accompany a live stage performance or several scenes in a [[motion picture]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Popular music, on the other hand, is typically used:&lt;br /&gt;
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# For entertainment, and more particularly for financial remuneration.&lt;br /&gt;
# Very frequently as a supplement to modern [[theater]] in all its forms, including stage, [[motion picture|motion pictures]], and especially [[television]].&lt;br /&gt;
# As a powerful aid of [[propaganda]], and the closely related use in [[advertisement]].&lt;br /&gt;
# Rarely, to rally troops. One popular artist who achieved great distinction by winning acceptance of his music by military bands was [[Glenn Miller]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Both forms of music can be used as propaganda, as in some of the works of [[Dmitri Shostakovich]] (although this is debated; see the article on Shostakovich for a more complete discussion).&lt;br /&gt;
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== The power of music over human emotion ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music has a very powerful effect on the emotions of the listener. Music relies on [[sound]], and if &amp;quot;faith comes through hearing,&amp;quot; then so does emotion. Music can instantly bring joy or sorrow, ecstasy or despair, and far more quickly than can any other form of art. Many musical composers insist that their music merely expresses emotions. This does not do music justice. Music does more than express emotions; it induces them.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musica.uci.edu/mrn/V3I1S96.html MuSICA Notes III(1), Spring 1996]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The amateur botanist Dorothy L. Retallack, in [[1973]], claimed to have found that music can have an effect on plants. &amp;quot;Positive&amp;quot; music (that produces joy or contentment) supposedly made plants flourish and even &amp;quot;reach&amp;quot; for, or grow toward, such music. Negative music (that produces frustration, restlessness, or especially anger and rage) supposedly caused plants to &amp;quot;recoil&amp;quot; (grow away) from the music, and prolonged or repeated exposure debilitates and eventually killed plants, or so she said.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Retallack, Dorothy L. ''The Sound of Music and Plants''. Devorss and Company, June 1973, 96 pp., paperback. ISBN 0875161707&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/ About Positive and Negative Music] from the Dovesong Foundation&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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No botanist has ever reproduced Retallack's claimed results. But the effects on animals and humans are far better documented and much more profound than any effect on plants that Retallack ever claimed. That animals, and especially [[dog]]s and [[cat]]s, recoil in horror from the sound of a poorly trained voice, is proverbial (and in fact the animals might be reacting to a sound that is not merely grating but acutely and physically painful to their ears). The Dovesong Foundation has found evidence for musical preferences by cattle&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Cows%20and%20Classical%20Music.asp Cows Prefer Classical Music]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and cetaceans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Steinhart_Dolphins.asp Dolphins Don't Like Rock] (The article refers to the classic [[dolphin]] (family [[Cetacea]]), aka &amp;quot;porpoise,&amp;quot; not the fish of that name.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has also had a profound and well-documented effect in human history.  The history of warfare includes a rich history of martial music. More recently, music has now found a use in the healing of negative emotional states and even as an aid to the healing of physical disabilities.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musictherapy.org/ The American Music Therapy Association]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial enterprises always attempt, at great expense of time, money, and effort, to find and deploy forms of music that will enhance worker productivity or cause prospective customers to behave in a manner calculated to make them purchase their goods and/or services. The pop selections played in supermarkets are a prime example.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has always been an adjunct to [[theater]]. This is especially true of the performing arts called ''opera'' and ''ballet'', but applies also to the use of music as an adjunct to a theatrical production, whether on the stage, as a [[motion picture]], or as a [[television]] show.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music also has an obvious use in [[propaganda]], in which the propagandist seeks to manipulate people's emotions and stir them typically to rage and hostility against certain groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, music can strengthen in the listener a curiosity about, or even a desire for, an act of sexual or other [[sin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cranach.worldmagblog.com/cranach/archives/2006/08/draft_linking_s.html Linking Sexual Music and Teen Behavior] by Gene Edward Veith at the [http://www.worldmagblog.com World Magazine Blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51496 Face the music, parents] at [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ WorldNetDaily] 12 August [[2006]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sadly, this use of music is probably as old as &amp;quot;the oldest profession.&amp;quot; Cultural critics observe, pointedly, that permissive cultures have permissive music, and non-permissive cultures avoid such music.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet for all this, music is still important in worship. If it were not, then it would not have received the favorable attention that the [[Bible]] clearly gives to it. As powerful a force for evil as it might be, music can be an equally powerful force to encourage the listener to worship, appreciate, and above all obey God and keep His laws--at least, as best as any human being is able.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Traditions and principles for liturgical music ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Saint Paul]] specifically exhorts his readers to employ music, and specifically &amp;quot;psalms, hymns, and spiritual odes,&amp;quot; to bring them closer to God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Ephesians|chap=5|verses=19|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Colossians|chap=3|verses=16|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In this context, a ''psalm'' is not necessarily a chapter out of the Book of [[Psalms]]; it can be any song that primarily quotes any part of Scripture. ''Hymns'' are songs primarily of praise and magnification of [[God]]; they do not, however, directly quote Scripture in most of their lyrics, as &amp;quot;psalms&amp;quot; do. ''Spiritual odes'' are primarily personal testimonies, either of salvation or of one's own perception of God. ''Amazing Grace'', by John Newton, is a prime example. ''It Is Well With My Soul'', by Horatio Spafford, is one song that has features of a hymn ''and'' a spiritual ode.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rev. Alan B. Brown, MDiv, ThM, has studied liturgical music extensively. In his view&amp;lt;ref name=Brown/&amp;gt;, liturgical music ought to satisfy three prime tests:&lt;br /&gt;
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# Are the lyrics ''accurate'', either when they quote Scripture or reflect [[Christian]] principles?&lt;br /&gt;
# Can you properly ''associate'' the lyrics and/or the notes with Godly things, as opposed to worldly things?&lt;br /&gt;
# Are the lyrics and/or the notes ''appropriate'' for worship in general, and in the setting of a particular celebration?&lt;br /&gt;
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The actual notes to the tunes that, say, King David's choir might have sung, or his royal orchestra might have produced, are lost to us today. But the titles of many of the Psalms contain specific instructions, originally to the music director at King David's court, as to the type of tune and the types of instruments required. Hymnists of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries often set the Psalms and other portions of Scripture to music, often with very good effect. The best-known example is the ''Doxology'' (literally, &amp;quot;study in glory&amp;quot;) that is a paraphrase of Psalm 100; the tune is called &amp;quot;Old Hundredth&amp;quot; and remains popular today.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Controversies surrounding music today ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music perhaps has always been controversial, but the controversies surrounding music today rage with particular vehemence. The question of what is, and what is not, music is relatively tame. Different composers have always experimented with different music conventions, and always will. (And perhaps they must.) Many such experiments fail, in that the works produced draw only small audiences, and ultimately no one will play them, because no one will pay to listen to them or to have them played for other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather, the most raging controversy concerns certain genres of popular music that have provoked adverse political comment precisely because of the emotions they incite and the themes they sound, both in lyrics and in notes. Parents of adolescent and pre-adolescent children object to music that explicitly (mainly through its lyrics) exhorts its listeners to sexual sin. Members of various political interest groups object to music that they believe provokes its listeners to show ''disrespect'' for members of those groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some listeners and music critics attempt to defend music as &amp;quot;amoral,&amp;quot; that is, morally neutral. They maintain that music exists only for people to enjoy, not to make a political point. For some, indeed, music is an escape. To them, one who tries to infer a serious purpose in a given piece of music ought to abandon the attempt and simply enjoy it for what it is. This attitude recalls [[Mark Twain]]'s famous introduction to [[The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn]]:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Per G.G., Chief of Ordnance.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The reaction of so many interested parties to various types of popular music today would seem to militate against that stance. Indeed, history is replete with examples of various pieces of music from earlier eras inciting their listeners to violence; [[Maurice Ravel]]'s signature work ''Bolero'', for example, was known to incite riots&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kalvos.org/bazzr086.html Essay 86: Bolero v. Gliere, Round 1] by David Gunn, at Kalvos &amp;amp; Damian's New Music Bazaar&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, as was [[Igor Stravinsky]]'s work ''The Rite of Spring''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nottinghamphilharmonic.co.uk/notes/SRS.html The Rite of Spring] by the Nottingham Philharmonic Orchestra&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Riots have also broken out at many rock-and-roll concerts, and often the responding law-enforcement authorities have been at a loss to determine the ultimate causes of those riots. The ''proximate'' cause typically is a one-on-one fight in which other concert attendees joined in--but what put the original combatants into a fighting mood, or causes others to join a fight that was, strictly speaking, not theirs, is far more difficult to explain. Perhaps too many of the listeners are worshiping the performers as if they were [[pagan]] [[idol]]s--a problem that, some say, composers like [[Franz Liszt]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] had to contend with. Perhaps the causes have as much to do with the subculture of which rock-and-roll music is a part, as with the music itself. Then, too, no [[physician]] has ever investigated the chronic, or long-standing, effects of a steady aural diet of different genres of music--beyond expressing concern that many listeners are listening to their music too loud and damaging their hearing with the sheer physical stress of the loud sounds. The only signs that anyone can study, if thry are signs of anything at all, are the statistics concerning psychological stress affecting, and substance abuse by, performers of various types of music. (Riots do not routinely break out at classical performances--at least, not since the ''Rite of Spring'' riot mentioned above. This might simply be due to wild behavior not being normative on the part of those who routinely patronize such music.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Music]] (Middle English ''musik'', from Anglo-French ''musike'', from [[Latin]] ''musica'', from [[Greek]] μουσικη ''mousike'') is an [[art]] form consisting entirely of organized [[sound]] interspersed with periods of silence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&amp;amp;va=Music Music] defined in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It takes its name from three [[Greek mythology|Greek]] goddesses known as the ''[[Muses]]'', who specialized in stimulation of an artist's or poet's mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music is the highest of all the arts, and the one best able to stir human emotion. Depending on what sort of work of music one composes, interprets, or hears, it can build a person up in spirit, or break it; make a person happy, or sad; inspire a person to greatness, or lead him into very challenging temptation. It is the art form to which the [[Bible]] gives its strongest endorsement, and to which the Bible pays the greatest attention. At the same time, it is arguably the most dangerous of all the arts, when misused.&amp;lt;ref name=Brown&amp;gt;Brown, Alan B.: telephone interview conducted on 1 March 2007 with user [[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== What is music? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Strictly speaking, ''music'' means sound having any organization at all, while ''noise'' is purely random sound. But the roots of these two words suggest that ''music'' ought to mean that which makes one think and feel something new and significantly different, while ''noise'' (from the same root from which we get the verb ''I annoy'') is merely a distracting, disturbing, or often physically damaging sound. Some modern composers have attempted to stretch the definition of music by using noises in a manner that they insist is organized. Whether such a work product properly falls under the heading of &amp;quot;music&amp;quot; is debatable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that music is ''not'' limited to such sounds that a human being might produce by fashioning an instrument for the making of a simplified or otherwise organized sound and then &amp;quot;playing&amp;quot; said instrument. The chirping of birds and certain insects may properly be called music, especially if the sound produced is particularly pleasant to the listener. Furthermore, some of the most sophisticated music attempts to imitate the sounds made by birds, insects, and other animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basic music theory ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Classically, music consists of ''tones'', ''melodies'', ''counterpoint'', and ''rhythm''. A ''tone'' is the purest form of sound, having a single [[frequency]]. However, pure tones in music are rare. Most tones present themselves to the human ear together with ''overtones'', which typically are small-[[integer]] multiples of the basic frequency (the ''fundamental tone'').&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes, intervals, and scales ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two tones played together form an ''interval''. The simplest of all intervals is the ''octave'', formed by two tones, one of whose frequencies is the exact double of the other. The full collection of tones that one can play between the two notes of an octave is called a ''scale.'' In Western music, most scales are ''semi-tonal'', with twelve tones between the octave notes. (The high end of the octave is considered a repetition of the low end, but at twice the frequency.) [[Oriental]] music commonly has ''quarter-tonal'' scales, with twenty-four separate tones within an octave. Quarter tones are often difficult to distinguish for a Western listener, and such music, as a result, tends to suggest the sinuous movement of a snake.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Greece|Greeks]] recognized early that fundamental tones in music have a simple and strict [[mathematics|mathematical]] relationship. As mentioned, the octave consists of two notes, one at double the frequency of the other. At ''triple'' the frequency, one hears a low fundamental tone, and a higher tone that is past the octave but roughly midway toward the second octave. If one then divides the high-tone frequency by two, one creates the interval called the ''perfect fifth'' or ''dominant'' interval, one of the most common intervals used in Western music. One can test this relationship by striking a note on a [[piano]] while holding down another key that is one octave higher than the perfect fifth. The second note will sound in sympathy with the first--because it is resonating with the overtone from the first note.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Melody and counterpoint ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Melody'' is the series of notes that most closely captures the attention of the listener: the 'tune' one hums along with.  &lt;br /&gt;
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''Counterpoint'' is a specific technique for creating secondary melodies that intertwine with and compliment the main melody. When two or more notes sound at the same time, it is called a ''chord,'' and the distance between the notes is the ''interval.''  In the western 12-note scale common usage, an interval is often  expressed in relative terms, using the eight notes that make up an octave and prefixing 'major' or 'minor' to account for the interstitial notes.  For instance, the interval between 'C' and 'E' is a ''3rd'' because 'E' is the 3rd note in the major scale of C.  One-half step below that is a ''minor 3rd,'' although this exact same note could also be called a ''major 2nd''.  Many of the feelings and emotions that music can evoke are a result of the tension between the ''harmonic'' sound of some intervals, and the ''dissonant'' sound of others.  During the development of western music, certain rules were established for proper melodic counterpoint, and these rules specified how intervals (chords) could change over time in the music.  Chords containing certain intervals, like 7ths, were required to 'resolve' to their harmonious natural key, while other intervals, like minor 5ths, were deemed ugly and even considered evil, and banned from use in liturgic music.  Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) represents the pinnacle of this style of strict rule-based composition, as many of his keyboard compositions and all of his sacred work adhere to the rules of counterpoint.  From the height of the Baroque era (1700's) to the present, the history of western music has unfolded as each generation of composers has pushed the boundaries of these these rules right up to, and then in the 20th century, way beyond, all limits.&lt;br /&gt;
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In modern popular music, the bass line is often seen as an example of counterpoint.  Another, more accurate example would be dueling guitar leads.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Rhythm ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Rhythm'' consists of all aspects of music that suggest ''forward movement.'' Most music contains a regularly repeating sequence of ''beats'', or strong elements, that typically lead with a ''down beat'' followed by any of a small number of slightly weaker beats. A down beat and its weaker beats form a ''measure.'' Usually, all measures in a piece of music have the same number of beats.&lt;br /&gt;
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A note in music is described not only by pitch, or frequency, but also by duration. Notes in Western music have names that typically describe how long they would sound in a typical measure. ''Whole notes'' are so called because normally they would sound for the full measure. ''Half notes'' would sound for half the measure, ''quarter notes'' for a fourth of the measure, and so on. A note may also carry a ''dot'' to the right of it, that indicates that the note is to sound for one and one-half times its usual duration.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any one of these notes may carry a beat, and a measure may have any number of beats. Thus every piece of music commonly carries at least one ''time signature'' describing how many beats a measure has, and which type of note carries one beat. The most common time is &amp;quot;four-quarter time&amp;quot; (four beats per measure, with the beat given to the quarter note), which is therefore called &amp;quot;common time.&amp;quot; Other commonly used time signature include three-quarter, six-eighth, nine-eighth, or rarely, two-half (called ''Alla breve'' or &amp;quot;cut time&amp;quot;). Even rarer are the time signatures with prime numbers of beats (other than three-quarter), including five-quarter or even eleven-eighth.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Tempo'' (Italian for &amp;quot;time&amp;quot;) describes how frequently the beats occur. The typical tempo signature is a drawing of the note that has the beat, followed by the number of beats per minute.&lt;br /&gt;
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Notes may be ''accented'' at any time. In fact, often the accent will fall on the weak beat and make the beats seem to sound out-of-sequence. The result is ''syncopated'' rhythm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The genre of music called [[rock and roll]] features a unique rhythm convention: the ''backbeat.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/12/07/RockRules Normative Backbeat] at Tbray.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a third beat, in four-quarter time, that is stressed even more strongly than the down beat. This produces a profound sense of restlessness in the listener.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types of instruments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Bible]] suggests that music actually began in [[heaven]], and that the first musician was [[Satan|Lucifer]], then the chief of [[God]]'s messengers, or [[angels]]. According to Scripture, after Lucifer fell, his choir fell with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Human music goes back to [[antediluvian civilization]]. The Bible specifically credits [[Jubal]], son of [[Lamech the Murderer]] by his wife [[Adah]], with introducing music to mankind.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=5|verses=19-21|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest ''post''-diluvian records of music have been found in [[Iraq]] and [[India]], and date at least from the time of [[Abraham]]. They probably were made shortly after the construction of the [[Tower of Babel].&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost every culture and religious movement has its own particular form of music. Some forms are richer and more sophisticated than others. The [[Hebrew]] people, and especially the children of [[Jacob|Israel]], have some of the grandest of all musical traditions. Mentions of &amp;quot;singing to the Lord&amp;quot; abound in the Old Testament. The most specific testimony to the power of music over human emotions is surely contained in the story of King [[Saul]] and how he came to recruit the young [[David]] as his armorbearer and personal musician.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=I_Samuel|chap=16|verses=14-23|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]], at the height of his reign, once had a ''four-thousand-voice choir'' to assist in the worship of [[God]]. The Book of [[Psalms]] is in fact a collection of lyrics for some of the first worship songs in Israelite tradition. (Most of these came from David, but at least one comes from [[Moses]].) The [[Song of Solomon]] is a grand ballad of love that most scholars regard as a type of the love of [[Jesus Christ]] for His elect.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Greeks, when [[Alexander the Great]] accepted the surrender of [[Jerusalem]] in his wars of conquest, introduced their own brand of music to the region--which the Jews largely resisted. But music was highly prominent throughout the Greek world--and later in the [[Rome|Roman]] world following Rome's conquest of Greece. The Greeks' contributions to music theory influenced artists for centuries to come, and still have a strong influence today, especially on composers who prefer to adhere to the classical traditions of music.&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest Greek music was associated with Greek [[theater]]. Beginning with the fall of Rome, however, music became largely liturgical. The primary influence remained the [[Roman Catholic Church]] until the twin movements of the Renaissance and the Reformation, each of which introduced a countervailing tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
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From that time forward, most scholars divide music into &amp;quot;classical&amp;quot; music (composed primarily to achieve a high art) and &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot; music (composed for the masses and tending to achieve wide, but ephemeral, appeal).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thefreedictionary.com/popular%20music Popular music] defined at the Free Dictionary&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Classical music&amp;quot; tends to rely more on written notation, as a piece of classical music is generally held to transcend any particular interpretation of it.  In current practice, such music is performed in concerts where the audience is expected to remain respectfully silent and the performers dress formally; however, in the past such music was often performed at salons and other informal private gatherings.  In addition, the increasing importance of the written transmission of such music has reduced the role of improvisation, which was extremely important through the beginning of the &amp;quot;Romantic&amp;quot; era.  Classical music also displays great musical complexity through the use of varied rhythms, chord progressions, counterpoint, and other compositional techniques, while maintaining a deep emotional content.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Popular music&amp;quot; on the other hand, tends to be more accessible to the general public through the use of simpler forms and relatively simple compositional techniques.  Much popular music is the product of modern business enterprise, as opposed to folk music (created by ordinary people for their own enjoyment) or classical music (which was originally written for religious practice or for the entertainment of the nobility).&lt;br /&gt;
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These two genres; however, are not necessarily distinct, as composers such as [[Johann Sebastian Bach|Bach]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] would often incorporate themes from &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; of their time into their works.  Other classical composers like [[Maurice Ravel|Ravel]] and [[George Gershwin|Gershwin]] were well-known for their use of jazz idiom in works like the Concerto in F for Piano and Orchestra and [[Rhapsody in Blue]].  On the other hand, popular music has borrowed many themes from classical works (one notable example is &amp;quot;A Whiter Shade of Pale&amp;quot; by [[Procol Harum]]).  In addition, &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; is not necessarily simpler than classical, as forms like jazz and progressive rock make use of complex time signatures that do not often occur in classical works, and some popular musicians like [[Frank Zappa]] are considered serious composers in their own right.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Different uses of classical and popular music ===&lt;br /&gt;
Classical music has typically found these uses:&lt;br /&gt;
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# As an aid to worship, by placing the listener into a proper frame of mind for worship or instill in the listener a proper appreciation of the grandeur and glory of [[God]] and of the listener's own place in relation to Him.&lt;br /&gt;
# For the entertainment of the nobility; or, in more recent times, by commission from a particular group of people (often an orchestra or a university).&lt;br /&gt;
# To rally troops, either during training, on the march, or in battle.&lt;br /&gt;
# To celebrate military victory or the reign of a king, usually the one presently on the throne.&lt;br /&gt;
# Occasionally as a supplement to various forms of [[theater]]. Originally (especially in the Greek era) this meant the open-air live theater of classical fame. Today such music might accompany a live stage performance or several scenes in a [[motion picture]].&lt;br /&gt;
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# Very frequently as a supplement to modern [[theater]] in all its forms, including stage, [[motion picture|motion pictures]], and especially [[television]].&lt;br /&gt;
# As a powerful aid of [[propaganda]], and the closely related use in [[advertisement]].&lt;br /&gt;
# Rarely, to rally troops. One popular artist who achieved great distinction by winning acceptance of his music by military bands was [[Glenn Miller]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Both forms of music can be used as propaganda, as in some of the works of [[Dmitri Shostakovich]] (although this is debated; see the article on Shostakovich for a more complete discussion).&lt;br /&gt;
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== The power of music over human emotion ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music has a very powerful effect on the emotions of the listener. Music relies on [[sound]], and if &amp;quot;faith comes through hearing,&amp;quot; then so does emotion. Music can instantly bring joy or sorrow, ecstasy or despair, and far more quickly than can any other form of art. Many musical composers insist that their music merely expresses emotions. This does not do music justice. Music does more than express emotions; it induces them.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musica.uci.edu/mrn/V3I1S96.html MuSICA Notes III(1), Spring 1996]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The amateur botanist Dorothy L. Retallack, in [[1973]], claimed to have found that music can have an effect on plants. &amp;quot;Positive&amp;quot; music (that produces joy or contentment) supposedly made plants flourish and even &amp;quot;reach&amp;quot; for, or grow toward, such music. Negative music (that produces frustration, restlessness, or especially anger and rage) supposedly caused plants to &amp;quot;recoil&amp;quot; (grow away) from the music, and prolonged or repeated exposure debilitates and eventually killed plants, or so she said.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Retallack, Dorothy L. ''The Sound of Music and Plants''. Devorss and Company, June 1973, 96 pp., paperback. ISBN 0875161707&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/ About Positive and Negative Music] from the Dovesong Foundation&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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No botanist has ever reproduced Retallack's claimed results. But the effects on animals and humans are far better documented and much more profound than any effect on plants that Retallack ever claimed. That animals, and especially [[dog]]s and [[cat]]s, recoil in horror from the sound of a poorly trained voice, is proverbial (and in fact the animals might be reacting to a sound that is not merely grating but acutely and physically painful to their ears). The Dovesong Foundation has found evidence for musical preferences by cattle&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Cows%20and%20Classical%20Music.asp Cows Prefer Classical Music]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and cetaceans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Steinhart_Dolphins.asp Dolphins Don't Like Rock] (The article refers to the classic [[dolphin]] (family [[Cetacea]]), aka &amp;quot;porpoise,&amp;quot; not the fish of that name.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has also had a profound and well-documented effect in human history.  The history of warfare includes a rich history of martial music. More recently, music has now found a use in the healing of negative emotional states and even as an aid to the healing of physical disabilities.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musictherapy.org/ The American Music Therapy Association]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial enterprises always attempt, at great expense of time, money, and effort, to find and deploy forms of music that will enhance worker productivity or cause prospective customers to behave in a manner calculated to make them purchase their goods and/or services. The pop selections played in supermarkets are a prime example.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has always been an adjunct to [[theater]]. This is especially true of the performing arts called ''opera'' and ''ballet'', but applies also to the use of music as an adjunct to a theatrical production, whether on the stage, as a [[motion picture]], or as a [[television]] show.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music also has an obvious use in [[propaganda]], in which the propagandist seeks to manipulate people's emotions and stir them typically to rage and hostility against certain groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, music can strengthen in the listener a curiosity about, or even a desire for, an act of sexual or other [[sin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cranach.worldmagblog.com/cranach/archives/2006/08/draft_linking_s.html Linking Sexual Music and Teen Behavior] by Gene Edward Veith at the [http://www.worldmagblog.com World Magazine Blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51496 Face the music, parents] at [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ WorldNetDaily] 12 August [[2006]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sadly, this use of music is probably as old as &amp;quot;the oldest profession.&amp;quot; Cultural critics observe, pointedly, that permissive cultures have permissive music, and non-permissive cultures avoid such music.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet for all this, music is still important in worship. If it were not, then it would not have received the favorable attention that the [[Bible]] clearly gives to it. As powerful a force for evil as it might be, music can be an equally powerful force to encourage the listener to worship, appreciate, and above all obey God and keep His laws--at least, as best as any human being is able.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Traditions and principles for liturgical music ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Saint Paul]] specifically exhorts his readers to employ music, and specifically &amp;quot;psalms, hymns, and spiritual odes,&amp;quot; to bring them closer to God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Ephesians|chap=5|verses=19|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Colossians|chap=3|verses=16|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In this context, a ''psalm'' is not necessarily a chapter out of the Book of [[Psalms]]; it can be any song that primarily quotes any part of Scripture. ''Hymns'' are songs primarily of praise and magnification of [[God]]; they do not, however, directly quote Scripture in most of their lyrics, as &amp;quot;psalms&amp;quot; do. ''Spiritual odes'' are primarily personal testimonies, either of salvation or of one's own perception of God. ''Amazing Grace'', by John Newton, is a prime example. ''It Is Well With My Soul'', by Horatio Spafford, is one song that has features of a hymn ''and'' a spiritual ode.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rev. Alan B. Brown, MDiv, ThM, has studied liturgical music extensively. In his view&amp;lt;ref name=Brown/&amp;gt;, liturgical music ought to satisfy three prime tests:&lt;br /&gt;
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# Are the lyrics ''accurate'', either when they quote Scripture or reflect [[Christian]] principles?&lt;br /&gt;
# Can you properly ''associate'' the lyrics and/or the notes with Godly things, as opposed to worldly things?&lt;br /&gt;
# Are the lyrics and/or the notes ''appropriate'' for worship in general, and in the setting of a particular celebration?&lt;br /&gt;
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The actual notes to the tunes that, say, King David's choir might have sung, or his royal orchestra might have produced, are lost to us today. But the titles of many of the Psalms contain specific instructions, originally to the music director at King David's court, as to the type of tune and the types of instruments required. Hymnists of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries often set the Psalms and other portions of Scripture to music, often with very good effect. The best-known example is the ''Doxology'' (literally, &amp;quot;study in glory&amp;quot;) that is a paraphrase of Psalm 100; the tune is called &amp;quot;Old Hundredth&amp;quot; and remains popular today.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Controversies surrounding music today ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music perhaps has always been controversial, but the controversies surrounding music today rage with particular vehemence. The question of what is, and what is not, music is relatively tame. Different composers have always experimented with different music conventions, and always will. (And perhaps they must.) Many such experiments fail, in that the works produced draw only small audiences, and ultimately no one will play them, because no one will pay to listen to them or to have them played for other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather, the most raging controversy concerns certain genres of popular music that have provoked adverse political comment precisely because of the emotions they incite and the themes they sound, both in lyrics and in notes. Parents of adolescent and pre-adolescent children object to music that explicitly (mainly through its lyrics) exhorts its listeners to sexual sin. Members of various political interest groups object to music that they believe provokes its listeners to show ''disrespect'' for members of those groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some listeners and music critics attempt to defend music as &amp;quot;amoral,&amp;quot; that is, morally neutral. They maintain that music exists only for people to enjoy, not to make a political point. For some, indeed, music is an escape. To them, one who tries to infer a serious purpose in a given piece of music ought to abandon the attempt and simply enjoy it for what it is. This attitude recalls [[Mark Twain]]'s famous introduction to [[The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn]]:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Per G.G., Chief of Ordnance.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The reaction of so many interested parties to various types of popular music today would seem to militate against that stance. Indeed, history is replete with examples of various pieces of music from earlier eras inciting their listeners to violence; [[Maurice Ravel]]'s signature work ''Bolero'', for example, was known to incite riots&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kalvos.org/bazzr086.html Essay 86: Bolero v. Gliere, Round 1] by David Gunn, at Kalvos &amp;amp; Damian's New Music Bazaar&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, as was [[Igor Stravinsky]]'s work ''The Rite of Spring''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nottinghamphilharmonic.co.uk/notes/SRS.html The Rite of Spring] by the Nottingham Philharmonic Orchestra&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Riots have also broken out at many rock-and-roll concerts, and often the responding law-enforcement authorities have been at a loss to determine the ultimate causes of those riots. The ''proximate'' cause typically is a one-on-one fight in which other concert attendees joined in--but what put the original combatants into a fighting mood, or causes others to join a fight that was, strictly speaking, not theirs, is far more difficult to explain. Perhaps too many of the listeners are worshiping the performers as if they were [[pagan]] [[idol]]s--a problem that, some say, composers like [[Franz Liszt]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] had to contend with. Perhaps the causes have as much to do with the subculture of which rock-and-roll music is a part, as with the music itself. Then, too, no [[physician]] has ever investigated the chronic, or long-standing, effects of a steady aural diet of different genres of music--beyond expressing concern that many listeners are listening to their music too loud and damaging their hearing with the sheer physical stress of the loud sounds. The only signs that anyone can study, if thry are signs of anything at all, are the statistics concerning psychological stress affecting, and substance abuse by, performers of various types of music. (Riots do not routinely break out at classical performances--at least, not since the ''Rite of Spring'' riot mentioned above. This might simply be due to wild behavior not being normative on the part of those who routinely patronize such music.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Music]] (Middle English ''musik'', from Anglo-French ''musike'', from [[Latin]] ''musica'', from [[Greek]] μουσικη ''mousike'') is an [[art]] form consisting entirely of organized [[sound]] interspersed with periods of silence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&amp;amp;va=Music Music] defined in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It takes its name from three [[Greek mythology|Greek]] goddesses known as the ''[[Muses]]'', who specialized in stimulation of an artist's or poet's mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music is the highest of all the arts, and the one best able to stir human emotion. Depending on what sort of work of music one composes, interprets, or hears, it can build a person up in spirit, or break it; make a person happy, or sad; inspire a person to greatness, or lead him into very challenging temptation. It is the art form to which the [[Bible]] gives its strongest endorsement, and to which the Bible pays the greatest attention. At the same time, it is arguably the most dangerous of all the arts, when misused.&amp;lt;ref name=Brown&amp;gt;Brown, Alan B.: telephone interview conducted on 1 March 2007 with user [[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== What is music? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Strictly speaking, ''music'' means sound having any organization at all, while ''noise'' is purely random sound. But the roots of these two words suggest that ''music'' ought to mean that which makes one think and feel something new and significantly different, while ''noise'' (from the same root from which we get the verb ''I annoy'') is merely a distracting, disturbing, or often physically damaging sound. Some modern composers have attempted to stretch the definition of music by using noises in a manner that they insist is organized. Whether such a work product properly falls under the heading of &amp;quot;music&amp;quot; is debatable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that music is ''not'' limited to such sounds that a human being might produce by fashioning an instrument for the making of a simplified or otherwise organized sound and then &amp;quot;playing&amp;quot; said instrument. The chirping of birds and certain insects may properly be called music, especially if the sound produced is particularly pleasant to the listener. Furthermore, some of the most sophisticated music attempts to imitate the sounds made by birds, insects, and other animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basic music theory ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Classically, music consists of ''tones'', ''melodies'', ''counterpoint'', and ''rhythm''. A ''tone'' is the purest form of sound, having a single [[frequency]]. However, pure tones in music are rare. Most tones present themselves to the human ear together with ''overtones'', which typically are small-[[integer]] multiples of the basic frequency (the ''fundamental tone'').&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes, intervals, and scales ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two tones played together form an ''interval''. The simplest of all intervals is the ''octave'', formed by two tones, one of whose frequencies is the exact double of the other. The full collection of tones that one can play between the two notes of an octave is called a ''scale.'' In Western music, most scales are ''semi-tonal'', with twelve tones between the octave notes. (The high end of the octave is considered a repetition of the low end, but at twice the frequency.) [[Oriental]] music commonly has ''quarter-tonal'' scales, with twenty-four separate tones within an octave. Quarter tones are often difficult to distinguish for a Western listener, and such music, as a result, tends to suggest the sinuous movement of a snake.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Greece|Greeks]] recognized early that fundamental tones in music have a simple and strict [[mathematics|mathematical]] relationship. As mentioned, the octave consists of two notes, one at double the frequency of the other. At ''triple'' the frequency, one hears a low fundamental tone, and a higher tone that is past the octave but roughly midway toward the second octave. If one then divides the high-tone frequency by two, one creates the interval called the ''perfect fifth'' or ''dominant'' interval, one of the most common intervals used in Western music. One can test this relationship by striking a note on a [[piano]] while holding down another key that is one octave higher than the perfect fifth. The second note will sound in sympathy with the first--because it is resonating with the overtone from the first note.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Melody and counterpoint ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Melody'' is the series of notes that most closely captures the attention of the listener: the 'tune' one hums along with.  ''Counterpoint'' is a specific technique for creating secondary melodies that intertwine with and compliment the main melody. When two or more notes sound at the same time, it is called a ''chord,'' and the distance between the notes is the ''interval.''  In the western 12-note scale common usage, an interval is often  expressed in relative terms, using the eight notes that make up an octave and prefixing 'major' or 'minor' to account for the interstitial notes.  For instance, the interval between 'C' and 'E' is a ''3rd'' because 'E' is the 3rd note in the major scale of C.  One-half step below that is a ''minor 3rd,'' although this exact same note could also be called a ''major 2nd''.  Many of the feelings and emotions that music can evoke are a result of the tension between the ''harmonic'' sound of some intervals, and the ''dissonant'' sound of others.  During the development of western music, certain rules were established for proper melodic counterpoint, and these rules specified how intervals (chords) could change over time in the music.  Chords containing certain intervals, like 7ths, were required to 'resolve' to their harmonious natural key, while other intervals, like minor 5ths, were deemed ugly and even considered evil, and banned from use in liturgic music.  Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) represents the pinnacle of this style of strict rule-based composition, as many of his keyboard compositions and all of his sacred work adhere to the rules of counterpoint.  From the height of the Baroque era (1700's) to the present, the history of western music has unfolded as each generation of composers has pushed the boundaries of these these rules right up to, and then in the 20th century, way beyond, all limits.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Rhythm'' consists of all aspects of music that suggest ''forward movement.'' Most music contains a regularly repeating sequence of ''beats'', or strong elements, that typically lead with a ''down beat'' followed by any of a small number of slightly weaker beats. A down beat and its weaker beats form a ''measure.'' Usually, all measures in a piece of music have the same number of beats.&lt;br /&gt;
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A note in music is described not only by pitch, or frequency, but also by duration. Notes in Western music have names that typically describe how long they would sound in a typical measure. ''Whole notes'' are so called because normally they would sound for the full measure. ''Half notes'' would sound for half the measure, ''quarter notes'' for a fourth of the measure, and so on. A note may also carry a ''dot'' to the right of it, that indicates that the note is to sound for one and one-half times its usual duration.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any one of these notes may carry a beat, and a measure may have any number of beats. Thus every piece of music commonly carries at least one ''time signature'' describing how many beats a measure has, and which type of note carries one beat. The most common time is &amp;quot;four-quarter time&amp;quot; (four beats per measure, with the beat given to the quarter note), which is therefore called &amp;quot;common time.&amp;quot; Other commonly used time signature include three-quarter, six-eighth, nine-eighth, or rarely, two-half (called ''Alla breve'' or &amp;quot;cut time&amp;quot;). Even rarer are the time signatures with prime numbers of beats (other than three-quarter), including five-quarter or even eleven-eighth.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Tempo'' (Italian for &amp;quot;time&amp;quot;) describes how frequently the beats occur. The typical tempo signature is a drawing of the note that has the beat, followed by the number of beats per minute.&lt;br /&gt;
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Notes may be ''accented'' at any time. In fact, often the accent will fall on the weak beat and make the beats seem to sound out-of-sequence. The result is ''syncopated'' rhythm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The genre of music called [[rock and roll]] features a unique rhythm convention: the ''backbeat.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/12/07/RockRules Normative Backbeat] at Tbray.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a third beat, in four-quarter time, that is stressed even more strongly than the down beat. This produces a profound sense of restlessness in the listener.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types of instruments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Bible]] suggests that music actually began in [[heaven]], and that the first musician was [[Satan|Lucifer]], then the chief of [[God]]'s messengers, or [[angels]]. According to Scripture, after Lucifer fell, his choir fell with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Human music goes back to [[antediluvian civilization]]. The Bible specifically credits [[Jubal]], son of [[Lamech the Murderer]] by his wife [[Adah]], with introducing music to mankind.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=5|verses=19-21|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest ''post''-diluvian records of music have been found in [[Iraq]] and [[India]], and date at least from the time of [[Abraham]]. They probably were made shortly after the construction of the [[Tower of Babel].&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost every culture and religious movement has its own particular form of music. Some forms are richer and more sophisticated than others. The [[Hebrew]] people, and especially the children of [[Jacob|Israel]], have some of the grandest of all musical traditions. Mentions of &amp;quot;singing to the Lord&amp;quot; abound in the Old Testament. The most specific testimony to the power of music over human emotions is surely contained in the story of King [[Saul]] and how he came to recruit the young [[David]] as his armorbearer and personal musician.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=I_Samuel|chap=16|verses=14-23|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]], at the height of his reign, once had a ''four-thousand-voice choir'' to assist in the worship of [[God]]. The Book of [[Psalms]] is in fact a collection of lyrics for some of the first worship songs in Israelite tradition. (Most of these came from David, but at least one comes from [[Moses]].) The [[Song of Solomon]] is a grand ballad of love that most scholars regard as a type of the love of [[Jesus Christ]] for His elect.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Greeks, when [[Alexander the Great]] accepted the surrender of [[Jerusalem]] in his wars of conquest, introduced their own brand of music to the region--which the Jews largely resisted. But music was highly prominent throughout the Greek world--and later in the [[Rome|Roman]] world following Rome's conquest of Greece. The Greeks' contributions to music theory influenced artists for centuries to come, and still have a strong influence today, especially on composers who prefer to adhere to the classical traditions of music.&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest Greek music was associated with Greek [[theater]]. Beginning with the fall of Rome, however, music became largely liturgical. The primary influence remained the [[Roman Catholic Church]] until the twin movements of the Renaissance and the Reformation, each of which introduced a countervailing tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
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From that time forward, most scholars divide music into &amp;quot;classical&amp;quot; music (composed primarily to achieve a high art) and &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot; music (composed for the masses and tending to achieve wide, but ephemeral, appeal).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thefreedictionary.com/popular%20music Popular music] defined at the Free Dictionary&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Classical music&amp;quot; tends to rely more on written notation, as a piece of classical music is generally held to transcend any particular interpretation of it.  In current practice, such music is performed in concerts where the audience is expected to remain respectfully silent and the performers dress formally; however, in the past such music was often performed at salons and other informal private gatherings.  In addition, the increasing importance of the written transmission of such music has reduced the role of improvisation, which was extremely important through the beginning of the &amp;quot;Romantic&amp;quot; era.  Classical music also displays great musical complexity through the use of varied rhythms, chord progressions, counterpoint, and other compositional techniques, while maintaining a deep emotional content.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Popular music&amp;quot; on the other hand, tends to be more accessible to the general public through the use of simpler forms and relatively simple compositional techniques.  Much popular music is the product of modern business enterprise, as opposed to folk music (created by ordinary people for their own enjoyment) or classical music (which was originally written for religious practice or for the entertainment of the nobility).&lt;br /&gt;
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These two genres; however, are not necessarily distinct, as composers such as [[Johann Sebastian Bach|Bach]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] would often incorporate themes from &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; of their time into their works.  Other classical composers like [[Maurice Ravel|Ravel]] and [[George Gershwin|Gershwin]] were well-known for their use of jazz idiom in works like the Concerto in F for Piano and Orchestra and [[Rhapsody in Blue]].  On the other hand, popular music has borrowed many themes from classical works (one notable example is &amp;quot;A Whiter Shade of Pale&amp;quot; by [[Procol Harum]]).  In addition, &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; is not necessarily simpler than classical, as forms like jazz and progressive rock make use of complex time signatures that do not often occur in classical works, and some popular musicians like [[Frank Zappa]] are considered serious composers in their own right.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Different uses of classical and popular music ===&lt;br /&gt;
Classical music has typically found these uses:&lt;br /&gt;
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# As an aid to worship, by placing the listener into a proper frame of mind for worship or instill in the listener a proper appreciation of the grandeur and glory of [[God]] and of the listener's own place in relation to Him.&lt;br /&gt;
# For the entertainment of the nobility; or, in more recent times, by commission from a particular group of people (often an orchestra or a university).&lt;br /&gt;
# To rally troops, either during training, on the march, or in battle.&lt;br /&gt;
# To celebrate military victory or the reign of a king, usually the one presently on the throne.&lt;br /&gt;
# Occasionally as a supplement to various forms of [[theater]]. Originally (especially in the Greek era) this meant the open-air live theater of classical fame. Today such music might accompany a live stage performance or several scenes in a [[motion picture]].&lt;br /&gt;
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# Very frequently as a supplement to modern [[theater]] in all its forms, including stage, [[motion picture|motion pictures]], and especially [[television]].&lt;br /&gt;
# As a powerful aid of [[propaganda]], and the closely related use in [[advertisement]].&lt;br /&gt;
# Rarely, to rally troops. One popular artist who achieved great distinction by winning acceptance of his music by military bands was [[Glenn Miller]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Both forms of music can be used as propaganda, as in some of the works of [[Dmitri Shostakovich]] (although this is debated; see the article on Shostakovich for a more complete discussion).&lt;br /&gt;
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== The power of music over human emotion ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music has a very powerful effect on the emotions of the listener. Music relies on [[sound]], and if &amp;quot;faith comes through hearing,&amp;quot; then so does emotion. Music can instantly bring joy or sorrow, ecstasy or despair, and far more quickly than can any other form of art. Many musical composers insist that their music merely expresses emotions. This does not do music justice. Music does more than express emotions; it induces them.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musica.uci.edu/mrn/V3I1S96.html MuSICA Notes III(1), Spring 1996]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The amateur botanist Dorothy L. Retallack, in [[1973]], claimed to have found that music can have an effect on plants. &amp;quot;Positive&amp;quot; music (that produces joy or contentment) supposedly made plants flourish and even &amp;quot;reach&amp;quot; for, or grow toward, such music. Negative music (that produces frustration, restlessness, or especially anger and rage) supposedly caused plants to &amp;quot;recoil&amp;quot; (grow away) from the music, and prolonged or repeated exposure debilitates and eventually killed plants, or so she said.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Retallack, Dorothy L. ''The Sound of Music and Plants''. Devorss and Company, June 1973, 96 pp., paperback. ISBN 0875161707&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/ About Positive and Negative Music] from the Dovesong Foundation&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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No botanist has ever reproduced Retallack's claimed results. But the effects on animals and humans are far better documented and much more profound than any effect on plants that Retallack ever claimed. That animals, and especially [[dog]]s and [[cat]]s, recoil in horror from the sound of a poorly trained voice, is proverbial (and in fact the animals might be reacting to a sound that is not merely grating but acutely and physically painful to their ears). The Dovesong Foundation has found evidence for musical preferences by cattle&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Cows%20and%20Classical%20Music.asp Cows Prefer Classical Music]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and cetaceans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Steinhart_Dolphins.asp Dolphins Don't Like Rock] (The article refers to the classic [[dolphin]] (family [[Cetacea]]), aka &amp;quot;porpoise,&amp;quot; not the fish of that name.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has also had a profound and well-documented effect in human history.  The history of warfare includes a rich history of martial music. More recently, music has now found a use in the healing of negative emotional states and even as an aid to the healing of physical disabilities.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musictherapy.org/ The American Music Therapy Association]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial enterprises always attempt, at great expense of time, money, and effort, to find and deploy forms of music that will enhance worker productivity or cause prospective customers to behave in a manner calculated to make them purchase their goods and/or services. The pop selections played in supermarkets are a prime example.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has always been an adjunct to [[theater]]. This is especially true of the performing arts called ''opera'' and ''ballet'', but applies also to the use of music as an adjunct to a theatrical production, whether on the stage, as a [[motion picture]], or as a [[television]] show.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music also has an obvious use in [[propaganda]], in which the propagandist seeks to manipulate people's emotions and stir them typically to rage and hostility against certain groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, music can strengthen in the listener a curiosity about, or even a desire for, an act of sexual or other [[sin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cranach.worldmagblog.com/cranach/archives/2006/08/draft_linking_s.html Linking Sexual Music and Teen Behavior] by Gene Edward Veith at the [http://www.worldmagblog.com World Magazine Blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51496 Face the music, parents] at [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ WorldNetDaily] 12 August [[2006]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sadly, this use of music is probably as old as &amp;quot;the oldest profession.&amp;quot; Cultural critics observe, pointedly, that permissive cultures have permissive music, and non-permissive cultures avoid such music.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet for all this, music is still important in worship. If it were not, then it would not have received the favorable attention that the [[Bible]] clearly gives to it. As powerful a force for evil as it might be, music can be an equally powerful force to encourage the listener to worship, appreciate, and above all obey God and keep His laws--at least, as best as any human being is able.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Traditions and principles for liturgical music ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Saint Paul]] specifically exhorts his readers to employ music, and specifically &amp;quot;psalms, hymns, and spiritual odes,&amp;quot; to bring them closer to God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Ephesians|chap=5|verses=19|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Colossians|chap=3|verses=16|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In this context, a ''psalm'' is not necessarily a chapter out of the Book of [[Psalms]]; it can be any song that primarily quotes any part of Scripture. ''Hymns'' are songs primarily of praise and magnification of [[God]]; they do not, however, directly quote Scripture in most of their lyrics, as &amp;quot;psalms&amp;quot; do. ''Spiritual odes'' are primarily personal testimonies, either of salvation or of one's own perception of God. ''Amazing Grace'', by John Newton, is a prime example. ''It Is Well With My Soul'', by Horatio Spafford, is one song that has features of a hymn ''and'' a spiritual ode.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rev. Alan B. Brown, MDiv, ThM, has studied liturgical music extensively. In his view&amp;lt;ref name=Brown/&amp;gt;, liturgical music ought to satisfy three prime tests:&lt;br /&gt;
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# Are the lyrics ''accurate'', either when they quote Scripture or reflect [[Christian]] principles?&lt;br /&gt;
# Can you properly ''associate'' the lyrics and/or the notes with Godly things, as opposed to worldly things?&lt;br /&gt;
# Are the lyrics and/or the notes ''appropriate'' for worship in general, and in the setting of a particular celebration?&lt;br /&gt;
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The actual notes to the tunes that, say, King David's choir might have sung, or his royal orchestra might have produced, are lost to us today. But the titles of many of the Psalms contain specific instructions, originally to the music director at King David's court, as to the type of tune and the types of instruments required. Hymnists of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries often set the Psalms and other portions of Scripture to music, often with very good effect. The best-known example is the ''Doxology'' (literally, &amp;quot;study in glory&amp;quot;) that is a paraphrase of Psalm 100; the tune is called &amp;quot;Old Hundredth&amp;quot; and remains popular today.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Controversies surrounding music today ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music perhaps has always been controversial, but the controversies surrounding music today rage with particular vehemence. The question of what is, and what is not, music is relatively tame. Different composers have always experimented with different music conventions, and always will. (And perhaps they must.) Many such experiments fail, in that the works produced draw only small audiences, and ultimately no one will play them, because no one will pay to listen to them or to have them played for other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather, the most raging controversy concerns certain genres of popular music that have provoked adverse political comment precisely because of the emotions they incite and the themes they sound, both in lyrics and in notes. Parents of adolescent and pre-adolescent children object to music that explicitly (mainly through its lyrics) exhorts its listeners to sexual sin. Members of various political interest groups object to music that they believe provokes its listeners to show ''disrespect'' for members of those groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some listeners and music critics attempt to defend music as &amp;quot;amoral,&amp;quot; that is, morally neutral. They maintain that music exists only for people to enjoy, not to make a political point. For some, indeed, music is an escape. To them, one who tries to infer a serious purpose in a given piece of music ought to abandon the attempt and simply enjoy it for what it is. This attitude recalls [[Mark Twain]]'s famous introduction to [[The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn]]:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Per G.G., Chief of Ordnance.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The reaction of so many interested parties to various types of popular music today would seem to militate against that stance. Indeed, history is replete with examples of various pieces of music from earlier eras inciting their listeners to violence; [[Maurice Ravel]]'s signature work ''Bolero'', for example, was known to incite riots&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kalvos.org/bazzr086.html Essay 86: Bolero v. Gliere, Round 1] by David Gunn, at Kalvos &amp;amp; Damian's New Music Bazaar&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, as was [[Igor Stravinsky]]'s work ''The Rite of Spring''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nottinghamphilharmonic.co.uk/notes/SRS.html The Rite of Spring] by the Nottingham Philharmonic Orchestra&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Riots have also broken out at many rock-and-roll concerts, and often the responding law-enforcement authorities have been at a loss to determine the ultimate causes of those riots. The ''proximate'' cause typically is a one-on-one fight in which other concert attendees joined in--but what put the original combatants into a fighting mood, or causes others to join a fight that was, strictly speaking, not theirs, is far more difficult to explain. Perhaps too many of the listeners are worshiping the performers as if they were [[pagan]] [[idol]]s--a problem that, some say, composers like [[Franz Liszt]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] had to contend with. Perhaps the causes have as much to do with the subculture of which rock-and-roll music is a part, as with the music itself. Then, too, no [[physician]] has ever investigated the chronic, or long-standing, effects of a steady aural diet of different genres of music--beyond expressing concern that many listeners are listening to their music too loud and damaging their hearing with the sheer physical stress of the loud sounds. The only signs that anyone can study, if thry are signs of anything at all, are the statistics concerning psychological stress affecting, and substance abuse by, performers of various types of music. (Riots do not routinely break out at classical performances--at least, not since the ''Rite of Spring'' riot mentioned above. This might simply be due to wild behavior not being normative on the part of those who routinely patronize such music.)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Music]] (Middle English ''musik'', from Anglo-French ''musike'', from [[Latin]] ''musica'', from [[Greek]] μουσικη ''mousike'') is an [[art]] form consisting entirely of organized [[sound]] interspersed with periods of silence.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&amp;amp;va=Music Music] defined in the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It takes its name from three [[Greek mythology|Greek]] goddesses known as the ''[[Muses]]'', who specialized in stimulation of an artist's or poet's mind.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music is the highest of all the arts, and the one best able to stir human emotion. Depending on what sort of work of music one composes, interprets, or hears, it can build a person up in spirit, or break it; make a person happy, or sad; inspire a person to greatness, or lead him into very challenging temptation. It is the art form to which the [[Bible]] gives its strongest endorsement, and to which the Bible pays the greatest attention. At the same time, it is arguably the most dangerous of all the arts, when misused.&amp;lt;ref name=Brown&amp;gt;Brown, Alan B.: telephone interview conducted on 1 March 2007 with user [[User:TerryH|TerryH]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
== What is music? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Strictly speaking, ''music'' means sound having any organization at all, while ''noise'' is purely random sound. But the roots of these two words suggest that ''music'' ought to mean that which makes one think and feel something new and significantly different, while ''noise'' (from the same root from which we get the verb ''I annoy'') is merely a distracting, disturbing, or often physically damaging sound. Some modern composers have attempted to stretch the definition of music by using noises in a manner that they insist is organized. Whether such a work product properly falls under the heading of &amp;quot;music&amp;quot; is debatable.&lt;br /&gt;
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Note that music is ''not'' limited to such sounds that a human being might produce by fashioning an instrument for the making of a simplified or otherwise organized sound and then &amp;quot;playing&amp;quot; said instrument. The chirping of birds and certain insects may properly be called music, especially if the sound produced is particularly pleasant to the listener. Furthermore, some of the most sophisticated music attempts to imitate the sounds made by birds, insects, and other animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Basic music theory ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Classically, music consists of ''tones'', ''melodies'', ''counterpoint'', and ''rhythm''. A ''tone'' is the purest form of sound, having a single [[frequency]]. However, pure tones in music are rare. Most tones present themselves to the human ear together with ''overtones'', which typically are small-[[integer]] multiples of the basic frequency (the ''fundamental tone'').&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Notes, intervals, and scales ===&lt;br /&gt;
Two tones played together form an ''interval''. The simplest of all intervals is the ''octave'', formed by two tones, one of whose frequencies is the exact double of the other. The full collection of tones that one can play between the two notes of an octave is called a ''scale.'' In Western music, most scales are ''semi-tonal'', with twelve tones between the octave notes. (The high end of the octave is considered a repetition of the low end, but at twice the frequency.) [[Oriental]] music commonly has ''quarter-tonal'' scales, with twenty-four separate tones within an octave. Quarter tones are often difficult to distinguish for a Western listener, and such music, as a result, tends to suggest the sinuous movement of a snake.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Greece|Greeks]] recognized early that fundamental tones in music have a simple and strict [[mathematics|mathematical]] relationship. As mentioned, the octave consists of two notes, one at double the frequency of the other. At ''triple'' the frequency, one hears a low fundamental tone, and a higher tone that is past the octave but roughly midway toward the second octave. If one then divides the high-tone frequency by two, one creates the interval called the ''perfect fifth'' or ''dominant'' interval, one of the most common intervals used in Western music. One can test this relationship by striking a note on a [[piano]] while holding down another key that is one octave higher than the perfect fifth. The second note will sound in sympathy with the first--because it is resonating with the overtone from the first note.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Melody and counterpoint ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Melody'' is the series of notes that most closely captures the attention of the listener: the 'tune' one hums along with.  ''Counterpoint'' is a specific technique for creating secondary melodies that intertwine with and compliment the main melody. When two or more notes sound at the same time, it is called a ''chord,'' and the distance between the notes is the ''interval.''  In the western 12-note scale common usage, an interval is often  expressed in relative terms, using the eight notes that make up an octave and prefixing 'major' or 'minor' to account for the interstitial notes.  For instance, the interval between 'C' and 'E' is a ''3rd'' because 'E' is the 3rd note in the major scale of C.  One-half step below that is a ''minor 3rd,'' although this exact same note could also be called a ''major 2nd''.  It is the tension between the ''harmonic'' sound of some intervals, and the ''dissonant'' sound of others that creates forward movement and emotion in music.  During the development of western music, certain rules were established for proper melodic counterpoint, and these rules specified how intervals (chords) could change over time in the music.  Chords containing certain intervals, like 7ths, were required to 'resolve' to their harmonious natural key, while other intervals, like minor 5ths, were deemed ugly and even considered evil, and banned from use in liturgic music.  Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750) represents the pinnacle of this style of strict rule-based composition, as many of his keyboard compositions and all of his sacred work adhere to the rules of counterpoint.  From the height of the Baroque era (1700's) to the present, the history of western music has unfolded as each generation of composers has pushed the boundaries of these these rules right up to, and then in the 20th century, way beyond, all limits.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Rhythm ===&lt;br /&gt;
''Rhythm'' consists of all aspects of music that suggest ''forward movement.'' Most music contains a regularly repeating sequence of ''beats'', or strong elements, that typically lead with a ''down beat'' followed by any of a small number of slightly weaker beats. A down beat and its weaker beats form a ''measure.'' Usually, all measures in a piece of music have the same number of beats.&lt;br /&gt;
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A note in music is described not only by pitch, or frequency, but also by duration. Notes in Western music have names that typically describe how long they would sound in a typical measure. ''Whole notes'' are so called because normally they would sound for the full measure. ''Half notes'' would sound for half the measure, ''quarter notes'' for a fourth of the measure, and so on. A note may also carry a ''dot'' to the right of it, that indicates that the note is to sound for one and one-half times its usual duration.&lt;br /&gt;
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Any one of these notes may carry a beat, and a measure may have any number of beats. Thus every piece of music commonly carries at least one ''time signature'' describing how many beats a measure has, and which type of note carries one beat. The most common time is &amp;quot;four-quarter time&amp;quot; (four beats per measure, with the beat given to the quarter note), which is therefore called &amp;quot;common time.&amp;quot; Other commonly used time signature include three-quarter, six-eighth, nine-eighth, or rarely, two-half (called ''Alla breve'' or &amp;quot;cut time&amp;quot;). Even rarer are the time signatures with prime numbers of beats (other than three-quarter), including five-quarter or even eleven-eighth.&lt;br /&gt;
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''Tempo'' (Italian for &amp;quot;time&amp;quot;) describes how frequently the beats occur. The typical tempo signature is a drawing of the note that has the beat, followed by the number of beats per minute.&lt;br /&gt;
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Notes may be ''accented'' at any time. In fact, often the accent will fall on the weak beat and make the beats seem to sound out-of-sequence. The result is ''syncopated'' rhythm.&lt;br /&gt;
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The genre of music called [[rock and roll]] features a unique rhythm convention: the ''backbeat.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2003/12/07/RockRules Normative Backbeat] at Tbray.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is a third beat, in four-quarter time, that is stressed even more strongly than the down beat. This produces a profound sense of restlessness in the listener.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Types of instruments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== History ==&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Bible]] suggests that music actually began in [[heaven]], and that the first musician was [[Satan|Lucifer]], then the chief of [[God]]'s messengers, or [[angels]]. According to Scripture, after Lucifer fell, his choir fell with him.&lt;br /&gt;
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Human music goes back to [[antediluvian civilization]]. The Bible specifically credits [[Jubal]], son of [[Lamech the Murderer]] by his wife [[Adah]], with introducing music to mankind.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=5|verses=19-21|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest ''post''-diluvian records of music have been found in [[Iraq]] and [[India]], and date at least from the time of [[Abraham]]. They probably were made shortly after the construction of the [[Tower of Babel].&lt;br /&gt;
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Almost every culture and religious movement has its own particular form of music. Some forms are richer and more sophisticated than others. The [[Hebrew]] people, and especially the children of [[Jacob|Israel]], have some of the grandest of all musical traditions. Mentions of &amp;quot;singing to the Lord&amp;quot; abound in the Old Testament. The most specific testimony to the power of music over human emotions is surely contained in the story of King [[Saul]] and how he came to recruit the young [[David]] as his armorbearer and personal musician.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=I_Samuel|chap=16|verses=14-23|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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King [[David]], at the height of his reign, once had a ''four-thousand-voice choir'' to assist in the worship of [[God]]. The Book of [[Psalms]] is in fact a collection of lyrics for some of the first worship songs in Israelite tradition. (Most of these came from David, but at least one comes from [[Moses]].) The [[Song of Solomon]] is a grand ballad of love that most scholars regard as a type of the love of [[Jesus Christ]] for His elect.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Greeks, when [[Alexander the Great]] accepted the surrender of [[Jerusalem]] in his wars of conquest, introduced their own brand of music to the region--which the Jews largely resisted. But music was highly prominent throughout the Greek world--and later in the [[Rome|Roman]] world following Rome's conquest of Greece. The Greeks' contributions to music theory influenced artists for centuries to come, and still have a strong influence today, especially on composers who prefer to adhere to the classical traditions of music.&lt;br /&gt;
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The earliest Greek music was associated with Greek [[theater]]. Beginning with the fall of Rome, however, music became largely liturgical. The primary influence remained the [[Roman Catholic Church]] until the twin movements of the Renaissance and the Reformation, each of which introduced a countervailing tradition.&lt;br /&gt;
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From that time forward, most scholars divide music into &amp;quot;classical&amp;quot; music (composed primarily to achieve a high art) and &amp;quot;popular&amp;quot; music (composed for the masses and tending to achieve wide, but ephemeral, appeal).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thefreedictionary.com/popular%20music Popular music] defined at the Free Dictionary&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Classical music&amp;quot; tends to rely more on written notation, as a piece of classical music is generally held to transcend any particular interpretation of it.  In current practice, such music is performed in concerts where the audience is expected to remain respectfully silent and the performers dress formally; however, in the past such music was often performed at salons and other informal private gatherings.  In addition, the increasing importance of the written transmission of such music has reduced the role of improvisation, which was extremely important through the beginning of the &amp;quot;Romantic&amp;quot; era.  Classical music also displays great musical complexity through the use of varied rhythms, chord progressions, counterpoint, and other compositional techniques, while maintaining a deep emotional content.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Popular music&amp;quot; on the other hand, tends to be more accessible to the general public through the use of simpler forms and relatively simple compositional techniques.  Much popular music is the product of modern business enterprise, as opposed to folk music (created by ordinary people for their own enjoyment) or classical music (which was originally written for religious practice or for the entertainment of the nobility).&lt;br /&gt;
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These two genres; however, are not necessarily distinct, as composers such as [[Johann Sebastian Bach|Bach]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] would often incorporate themes from &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; of their time into their works.  Other classical composers like [[Maurice Ravel|Ravel]] and [[George Gershwin|Gershwin]] were well-known for their use of jazz idiom in works like the Concerto in F for Piano and Orchestra and [[Rhapsody in Blue]].  On the other hand, popular music has borrowed many themes from classical works (one notable example is &amp;quot;A Whiter Shade of Pale&amp;quot; by [[Procol Harum]]).  In addition, &amp;quot;popular music&amp;quot; is not necessarily simpler than classical, as forms like jazz and progressive rock make use of complex time signatures that do not often occur in classical works, and some popular musicians like [[Frank Zappa]] are considered serious composers in their own right.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Different uses of classical and popular music ===&lt;br /&gt;
Classical music has typically found these uses:&lt;br /&gt;
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# As an aid to worship, by placing the listener into a proper frame of mind for worship or instill in the listener a proper appreciation of the grandeur and glory of [[God]] and of the listener's own place in relation to Him.&lt;br /&gt;
# For the entertainment of the nobility; or, in more recent times, by commission from a particular group of people (often an orchestra or a university).&lt;br /&gt;
# To rally troops, either during training, on the march, or in battle.&lt;br /&gt;
# To celebrate military victory or the reign of a king, usually the one presently on the throne.&lt;br /&gt;
# Occasionally as a supplement to various forms of [[theater]]. Originally (especially in the Greek era) this meant the open-air live theater of classical fame. Today such music might accompany a live stage performance or several scenes in a [[motion picture]].&lt;br /&gt;
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# Very frequently as a supplement to modern [[theater]] in all its forms, including stage, [[motion picture|motion pictures]], and especially [[television]].&lt;br /&gt;
# As a powerful aid of [[propaganda]], and the closely related use in [[advertisement]].&lt;br /&gt;
# Rarely, to rally troops. One popular artist who achieved great distinction by winning acceptance of his music by military bands was [[Glenn Miller]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Both forms of music can be used as propaganda, as in some of the works of [[Dmitri Shostakovich]] (although this is debated; see the article on Shostakovich for a more complete discussion).&lt;br /&gt;
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== The power of music over human emotion ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music has a very powerful effect on the emotions of the listener. Music relies on [[sound]], and if &amp;quot;faith comes through hearing,&amp;quot; then so does emotion. Music can instantly bring joy or sorrow, ecstasy or despair, and far more quickly than can any other form of art. Many musical composers insist that their music merely expresses emotions. This does not do music justice. Music does more than express emotions; it induces them.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musica.uci.edu/mrn/V3I1S96.html MuSICA Notes III(1), Spring 1996]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The amateur botanist Dorothy L. Retallack, in [[1973]], claimed to have found that music can have an effect on plants. &amp;quot;Positive&amp;quot; music (that produces joy or contentment) supposedly made plants flourish and even &amp;quot;reach&amp;quot; for, or grow toward, such music. Negative music (that produces frustration, restlessness, or especially anger and rage) supposedly caused plants to &amp;quot;recoil&amp;quot; (grow away) from the music, and prolonged or repeated exposure debilitates and eventually killed plants, or so she said.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Retallack, Dorothy L. ''The Sound of Music and Plants''. Devorss and Company, June 1973, 96 pp., paperback. ISBN 0875161707&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/ About Positive and Negative Music] from the Dovesong Foundation&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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No botanist has ever reproduced Retallack's claimed results. But the effects on animals and humans are far better documented and much more profound than any effect on plants that Retallack ever claimed. That animals, and especially [[dog]]s and [[cat]]s, recoil in horror from the sound of a poorly trained voice, is proverbial (and in fact the animals might be reacting to a sound that is not merely grating but acutely and physically painful to their ears). The Dovesong Foundation has found evidence for musical preferences by cattle&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Cows%20and%20Classical%20Music.asp Cows Prefer Classical Music]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and cetaceans.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.dovesong.com/positive_music/archives/basement/Steinhart_Dolphins.asp Dolphins Don't Like Rock] (The article refers to the classic [[dolphin]] (family [[Cetacea]]), aka &amp;quot;porpoise,&amp;quot; not the fish of that name.)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has also had a profound and well-documented effect in human history.  The history of warfare includes a rich history of martial music. More recently, music has now found a use in the healing of negative emotional states and even as an aid to the healing of physical disabilities.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.musictherapy.org/ The American Music Therapy Association]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Commercial enterprises always attempt, at great expense of time, money, and effort, to find and deploy forms of music that will enhance worker productivity or cause prospective customers to behave in a manner calculated to make them purchase their goods and/or services. The pop selections played in supermarkets are a prime example.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music has always been an adjunct to [[theater]]. This is especially true of the performing arts called ''opera'' and ''ballet'', but applies also to the use of music as an adjunct to a theatrical production, whether on the stage, as a [[motion picture]], or as a [[television]] show.&lt;br /&gt;
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Music also has an obvious use in [[propaganda]], in which the propagandist seeks to manipulate people's emotions and stir them typically to rage and hostility against certain groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Finally, music can strengthen in the listener a curiosity about, or even a desire for, an act of sexual or other [[sin]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://cranach.worldmagblog.com/cranach/archives/2006/08/draft_linking_s.html Linking Sexual Music and Teen Behavior] by Gene Edward Veith at the [http://www.worldmagblog.com World Magazine Blog]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51496 Face the music, parents] at [http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ WorldNetDaily] 12 August [[2006]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Sadly, this use of music is probably as old as &amp;quot;the oldest profession.&amp;quot; Cultural critics observe, pointedly, that permissive cultures have permissive music, and non-permissive cultures avoid such music.&lt;br /&gt;
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Yet for all this, music is still important in worship. If it were not, then it would not have received the favorable attention that the [[Bible]] clearly gives to it. As powerful a force for evil as it might be, music can be an equally powerful force to encourage the listener to worship, appreciate, and above all obey God and keep His laws--at least, as best as any human being is able.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Traditions and principles for liturgical music ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Saint Paul]] specifically exhorts his readers to employ music, and specifically &amp;quot;psalms, hymns, and spiritual odes,&amp;quot; to bring them closer to God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Ephesians|chap=5|verses=19|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{Bible ref|book=Colossians|chap=3|verses=16|version=KJV}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In this context, a ''psalm'' is not necessarily a chapter out of the Book of [[Psalms]]; it can be any song that primarily quotes any part of Scripture. ''Hymns'' are songs primarily of praise and magnification of [[God]]; they do not, however, directly quote Scripture in most of their lyrics, as &amp;quot;psalms&amp;quot; do. ''Spiritual odes'' are primarily personal testimonies, either of salvation or of one's own perception of God. ''Amazing Grace'', by John Newton, is a prime example. ''It Is Well With My Soul'', by Horatio Spafford, is one song that has features of a hymn ''and'' a spiritual ode.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Rev. Alan B. Brown, MDiv, ThM, has studied liturgical music extensively. In his view&amp;lt;ref name=Brown/&amp;gt;, liturgical music ought to satisfy three prime tests:&lt;br /&gt;
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# Are the lyrics ''accurate'', either when they quote Scripture or reflect [[Christian]] principles?&lt;br /&gt;
# Can you properly ''associate'' the lyrics and/or the notes with Godly things, as opposed to worldly things?&lt;br /&gt;
# Are the lyrics and/or the notes ''appropriate'' for worship in general, and in the setting of a particular celebration?&lt;br /&gt;
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The actual notes to the tunes that, say, King David's choir might have sung, or his royal orchestra might have produced, are lost to us today. But the titles of many of the Psalms contain specific instructions, originally to the music director at King David's court, as to the type of tune and the types of instruments required. Hymnists of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries often set the Psalms and other portions of Scripture to music, often with very good effect. The best-known example is the ''Doxology'' (literally, &amp;quot;study in glory&amp;quot;) that is a paraphrase of Psalm 100; the tune is called &amp;quot;Old Hundredth&amp;quot; and remains popular today.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Controversies surrounding music today ==&lt;br /&gt;
Music perhaps has always been controversial, but the controversies surrounding music today rage with particular vehemence. The question of what is, and what is not, music is relatively tame. Different composers have always experimented with different music conventions, and always will. (And perhaps they must.) Many such experiments fail, in that the works produced draw only small audiences, and ultimately no one will play them, because no one will pay to listen to them or to have them played for other people.&lt;br /&gt;
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Rather, the most raging controversy concerns certain genres of popular music that have provoked adverse political comment precisely because of the emotions they incite and the themes they sound, both in lyrics and in notes. Parents of adolescent and pre-adolescent children object to music that explicitly (mainly through its lyrics) exhorts its listeners to sexual sin. Members of various political interest groups object to music that they believe provokes its listeners to show ''disrespect'' for members of those groups.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some listeners and music critics attempt to defend music as &amp;quot;amoral,&amp;quot; that is, morally neutral. They maintain that music exists only for people to enjoy, not to make a political point. For some, indeed, music is an escape. To them, one who tries to infer a serious purpose in a given piece of music ought to abandon the attempt and simply enjoy it for what it is. This attitude recalls [[Mark Twain]]'s famous introduction to [[The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn]]:&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;PERSONS attempting to find a motive in this narrative will be prosecuted; persons attempting to find a moral in it will be banished; persons attempting to find a plot in it will be shot.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;BY ORDER OF THE AUTHOR,&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;Per G.G., Chief of Ordnance.&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The reaction of so many interested parties to various types of popular music today would seem to militate against that stance. Indeed, history is replete with examples of various pieces of music from earlier eras inciting their listeners to violence; [[Maurice Ravel]]'s signature work ''Bolero'', for example, was known to incite riots&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.kalvos.org/bazzr086.html Essay 86: Bolero v. Gliere, Round 1] by David Gunn, at Kalvos &amp;amp; Damian's New Music Bazaar&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, as was [[Igor Stravinsky]]'s work ''The Rite of Spring''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nottinghamphilharmonic.co.uk/notes/SRS.html The Rite of Spring] by the Nottingham Philharmonic Orchestra&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Riots have also broken out at many rock-and-roll concerts, and often the responding law-enforcement authorities have been at a loss to determine the ultimate causes of those riots. The ''proximate'' cause typically is a one-on-one fight in which other concert attendees joined in--but what put the original combatants into a fighting mood, or causes others to join a fight that was, strictly speaking, not theirs, is far more difficult to explain. Perhaps too many of the listeners are worshiping the performers as if they were [[pagan]] [[idol]]s--a problem that, some say, composers like [[Franz Liszt]] and [[Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart|Mozart]] had to contend with. Perhaps the causes have as much to do with the subculture of which rock-and-roll music is a part, as with the music itself. Then, too, no [[physician]] has ever investigated the chronic, or long-standing, effects of a steady aural diet of different genres of music--beyond expressing concern that many listeners are listening to their music too loud and damaging their hearing with the sheer physical stress of the loud sounds. The only signs that anyone can study, if thry are signs of anything at all, are the statistics concerning psychological stress affecting, and substance abuse by, performers of various types of music. (Riots do not routinely break out at classical performances--at least, not since the ''Rite of Spring'' riot mentioned above. This might simply be due to wild behavior not being normative on the part of those who routinely patronize such music.)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Radiometric_dating&amp;diff=194612</id>
		<title>Radiometric dating</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-11T02:01:46Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;'''Radiometric dating''' is determing the age of an artifact by measuring the amount of radioactive decay that has occurred.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/geotime/radiometric.html Radiometric Time Scale] USGS&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Radiometric dating is mostly used to determine the age of rocks (though in the case of [[Radiocarbon dating]] can date wood, cloth, skeletons, and other organic material), and relies on the well-established function for exponential decay &amp;lt;math&amp;gt;F&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;t&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;=e&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;math&amp;gt;-kt&amp;lt;/math&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Principles ==&lt;br /&gt;
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No method exists for ''measuring'' time, except by measuring it as it is passing.&lt;br /&gt;
Therefore, the age of an artifact must be ''calculated''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The basic principle in any dating method is to find a process that is occurring at measurable rate and which is causing a change, measure the rate of that process, work out what state the artifact was in at the beginning of the process, observe what state it is in now, and to calculate how long the process at the measured rate would need to occur to effect that change.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, to work out how long a candle has been burning, the following steps would be needed:&lt;br /&gt;
# Measure how long it takes the candle to burn down a given amount.&lt;br /&gt;
# Find out how long the candle was when it started burning.&lt;br /&gt;
# Measure how long the candle is now.&lt;br /&gt;
# Calculate the difference between the two lengths.&lt;br /&gt;
# Calculate how long it would need to burn in order to burn that length.&lt;br /&gt;
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For most radiometric dating methods, one radioactive element changes by a process of nuclear decay into another element (often through a number of intermediate steps.  For example, uranium will eventually decay into lead.  So to measure how old a specimen containing some uranium and some lead is, the following steps are required:&lt;br /&gt;
# Measure the decay rate of uranium.&lt;br /&gt;
# Find out how much uranium was in the specimen to start with (this might be done by assuming that all the lead was originally uranium).&lt;br /&gt;
# Find out how much uranium is in the specimen now.&lt;br /&gt;
# Calculate how much uranium has turned into lead.&lt;br /&gt;
# Calculate how long it would take that much uranium to turn into lead, given the measured rate.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Key assumptions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Ratios of materials ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Radiometric dating works on the assumption that there is some natural level of radioactive material and material that it will decay to in nature.  For example, with Radiocarbon dating, this is carbon 14 and Nitrogen 14.  The level of carbon 14 in the environment is stable with the two exceptions of [[bomb carbon]] and burning of ancient fuels (increasing the amount of carbon 12 in the environment).  Both of these can be removed by using wood from 1890 - prior to the widespread use of fossil fuels and well before the creation of the nuclear bomb.&lt;br /&gt;
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With substances such as uranium, there is no creation of new uranium in the history of the world (with the exception of the very recent phenomenon of nuclear enrichment - which never gets back into ancient rocks so this is moot).&lt;br /&gt;
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Young Earth Creationists assert that the rate of formation of carbon 14 changed with creation and the flood leading to incorrect results for dating. However, this remains purely hypothetical and no supporting fact is known.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Rate of decay ===&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as is known, the rate of decay of a radioactive material is largely constant.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;At least one example of a change in the rate has been observed in laboratory experiments.  See ''[http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1608/ Radioactive decay rate depends on chemical environment]''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   This is based upon knowledge of [[quantum mechanics]] and the structure of the atom.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Principles of Quantum Mechanics'' page 89&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;!-- I cannot find any YEC articles that suggest otherwise with any supporting evidence beyond conjecture.  If any change is to be made, please refute with www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CF/CF210.html www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-c14.html#R2 -- Furthermore, remember there is more than C14 out there.--&amp;gt; Atoms consist of a heavy central core called the [[nucleus]] surrounded by clouds of lightweight particles (electrons), called [[electron shell]]s. The energy locked in the nucleus is enormous, but fortunately it cannot easily be released. The phenomenon we know as heat is simply the jiggling around of atoms and their components, so in principle a high enough temperature could cause the components of the core to break out. However, the temperature required to do this is in in the millions of degrees, so this cannot be achieved by any natural process that we know about. The second way that a nucleus could be disrupted is by particles striking it. However, the nucleus has a strong positive charge and the electron shells have a strong negative charge. Any incoming negative charge would be deflected by the electron shell and any positive charge that penetrated the electron shells would be deflected by the positive charge of the nucleus itself. Non-charged particles such as neutrons can penetrate to the nucleus and disrupt it (this is how a nuclear bomb works) but such a process will either cause more neutrons to emerge at a rapidly escalating rate&amp;amp;mdash;which would be very obvious to say the least&amp;amp;mdash;or it will fizzle out in a tiny fraction of a second. It thus seems very unlikely that radioactive decay rates can be altered without this being obvious.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Outside influences ===&lt;br /&gt;
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It is important that the sample not have had any outside influences.  One example of this can be found in metamorphic rocks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.tulane.edu/~sanelson/eens211/radiometric_dating.htm Radiometric Dating] Course notes for  EENS 211 at Tulane University&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This does not mean that all rock samples are unreliable, but it is possible to account for a process which throws off the data for metamorphic rocks.&lt;br /&gt;
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For example, with [[Uranium-lead dating]] with the crystallization of magma, this remains a closed system until the uranium decays.  As it decays, it disrupts the crystal and allows the lead atom to move.  Likewise, heating the rock such as [[granite]] forms [[gneiss]] or [[basalt]] forms [[schist]].  This can also disrupt the ratios of lead and uranium in the sample.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Calibration ==&lt;br /&gt;
In order to calibrate radiometric dating methods, the methods need to be checked for accuracy against items with independently-known dates.&lt;br /&gt;
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This is a problem because most of the dates of artifacts are only known from radiometric dating methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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Carbon dating, with it's much lower maximum theoretical range, is often used for dating items only hundreds and thousands of years old, so can be calibrated in its lower ranges by comparing results with artifacts who's ages are known from historical records.&lt;br /&gt;
Scientists have also attempted to extend the calibration range by comparing results to timber which has its age calculated by [[dendrochronology]], but this has also been questioned because carbon dating is used to assist with working out dendrochronological ages.&lt;br /&gt;
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Otherwise, calibration consists of comparing results with ages determined by other radiometric dating methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, tests of radiometric dating methods have often shown that they do ''not'' agree with known ages of rocks that have been seen to form from volcanic eruptions in recent and historic times, and there are also examples of radiometric dating methods not agreeing with each other.&lt;br /&gt;
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Young-Earth creationists therefore claim that radiometric dating methods are not reliable and can therefore not be used to disprove Biblical chronology.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Some major methods of radiometric dating==&lt;br /&gt;
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There are several major types of radiometric dating in use:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Quarternary Dating Methods, by M. Walker (Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, 2005).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Isotopes: Principles and Applications, by G. Faure and T. Mensing (Wiley &amp;amp; Sons, 2005).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Radiocarbon dating]], also called carbon dating&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Potassium-argon dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Uranium-lead dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Uranium-thorium]]&lt;br /&gt;
#[[Rubidium-strontium dating]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Earth science]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Same-sex_marriage&amp;diff=194610</id>
		<title>Talk:Same-sex marriage</title>
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		<updated>2007-06-11T01:55:21Z</updated>

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&lt;div&gt;{{Talk:Same-sex marriage/pov }}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Discussion==&lt;br /&gt;
A few problems with this. It's not exclusive to men, and Bush has pretty much given up on the Constitutional amendment. [[User:MountainDew|MountainDew]] 16:05, 10 March 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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*There are a ''lot'' of problems with this, which I've just tried to fix. The previous article seemed to be mixing up legal marriage and religious marriage. It implied that the President can amend the Constitution. etc. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 18:02, 10 March 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Isn't this already kinda covered at [[Homosexuality#Homosexuality and Marriage]]? Maybe we should import content from that section and then link from there to a fleshed-out article here, or flesh out the section there with whatever may come up here. In either way, some kind of synchronization would be of benefit in my eyes. --[[User:Sid 3050|Sid 3050]] 16:18, 10 March 2007 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Hey Colin''' what was wrong with Ed poor's version? --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 08:18, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:For starters, this sentence was in the first paragraph: &amp;quot;Very few homosexuals want to &amp;quot;marry&amp;quot; each other; the immediate intent is to remove the stigma of being called a &amp;quot;fornicator&amp;quot;.&amp;quot; (no citation) &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:21, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Okay, I protected my first page. I am now a total Wikipedia pariah, since I used editorial power to 'win' an edit war. :-( --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 08:31, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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If someone can provide a citation for &amp;quot;Very few homosexuals want to &amp;quot;marry&amp;quot; each other; the immediate intent is to remove the stigma of being called a &amp;quot;fornicator&amp;quot;,&amp;quot; I will relent on reverting this back. Do note that I was originally reverting to Aschlafly's version, now I am reverting to a modified Ed Poor version (Aschlafly's first paragraph, the rest Ed's). &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:58, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I had alrady removed the refrence to their intent. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 09:01, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It still included &amp;quot;very few want to marry each other&amp;quot; which is either a lie or an uncited fact, neither of which are allowed on Conservapedia. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:02, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok, lets remove that sentence altogether. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 09:06, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:There's also &amp;quot;has the actual result of destroying the sanctity of marriage and justifying homosexuality,&amp;quot; which is opinion. [[User:Tsumetai|Tsumetai]] 09:08, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What was wrong with the sentence I added to the 1st paragraph? It was hardly bad enough for the rollback button. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 09:20, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The rollback button is easier to use, my apologies. I doubt the truth of that sentence, but if that is the case, then surely a citation for it won't be hard to find. If you can't find one, I have no problem saying, &amp;quot;Some argue that giving equal rights to gays has the actual result of destroying the sanctity of marriage and justifying homosexuality (which they claim Bible condemns as sin).&amp;quot; This sentence isn't biased, doesn't have as much of a need for a citation (if one at all) and includes more viewpoints than the earlier sentence. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:25, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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That sentence is fine except for one thing which I fixed. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 09:30, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Edit war ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Colin's version: accurate and uncontroversial. Ed's version: contentious. Therefore, the current version should remain until this issue is resolved. As sysops, we should be setting an example and sorting this out through discussion. Are we agreed? [[User:Tsumetai|Tsumetai]] 08:59, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I agree with Tsumetai and have reverted all but one of my changes. I think I was too 'bold' here. Thanks for everyone's mild response. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 09:05, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:*Agree re: 'contentious', 'until resolved' &amp;amp; esp. 'setting an example', that is. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 09:07, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was only referring to the one paragraph, but OK. [[User:Tsumetai|Tsumetai]] 09:08, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Let us parley==&lt;br /&gt;
Okay...instead of the edit war-ette, let us hash it out here. &lt;br /&gt;
I don't have an ax to grind here so you can count me as a neutral &amp;quot;referee&amp;quot; (bribes &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;and plastic&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;accepted).[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 09:23, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Marriage as a right ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;Some argue that giving equal rights to gays has the actual result of destroying the sanctity of marriage and justifying homosexuality (which they claim Bible condemns as sin).&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is complex. It entails the idea that (1) marriage is a right and (2) homosexuals should have '[[equal rights]]'. It involves the idea that (3) the Biblical condemnation of homosexuality as sin is 'merely a claim' rather than 'objective truth'. &lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe we should lay all cards on the table. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 09:31, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The Bible's stance on homosexuality isn't a very clear one. Yes, the Old Testament considers it an abomination, but the old testament also says quite a few other things are abominations or illegal that we consider okay today. Moreover, the old testament is somewhat irrelevant to Christianity as only the New Testament really matters. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:33, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You are wrong here, see the passage from the book of Romans, that i quoted below. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 10:33, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::The passage from Romans indicates that homosexuality MIGHT be a consequence of idolatry and THAT a God goven consequence.[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::lol, now we must add the view that (4) 'only the New Testament really matters' to the list. How tall will this [[house of cards]] become? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 09:35, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not saying &amp;quot;only it matters,&amp;quot; but clearly many of the Old Testament laws were deemed unnecessary; I mean, you don't keep kosher do you? And who's to say which laws can be dropped and which must be kept? (obviously I can see the need to keep the 10 commandments, as they even help live a Christ-like life) &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:38, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Colin: you're not old enough to remember but years ago many states had what were called &amp;quot;blue laws&amp;quot; that made it illegal for business to be conducted on Sunday, (you could OPEN your place if business, that was okay, but you couldn't make any transactions). The effect was that people would do all of their shopping on Saturday. You couldn't get GASOLINE on Sunday! 1 out of ten stations were open. Nevermind &amp;quot;homosexuals&amp;quot; they didn't even get close to being mentioned when you could talk about &amp;quot;Sabbath breakers&amp;quot; all day. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 09:47, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Oh, but I am old enough to remember said blue laws, and to an extent some blue laws are still in place where I live. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:50, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::::Oh yeah, I failed to recall you live in the &amp;quot;land that time forgot&amp;quot;. [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
:::::::Hahaha, yeah, that's rural Tennessee. :-P &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:52, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Personally  i don't beleive that '''''anything''''' from the old testament is nulified unless it is nulified explicitly in the new testament, e.g. the eating of unclean animals-- I love bacon :) -- The new testament does seem pretty hostile to homosexuality. --[[User:BenjaminS|BenjaminS]] 09:44, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:So no polyester/cotton blend shirts for you, eh?[[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt; 09:48, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Who says so?==&lt;br /&gt;
:Some argue that giving equal rights to gays has the actual result of destroying the sanctity of marriage and justifying homosexuality (which they claim Bible condemns as sin). &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;leviticus 20:13&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*The reference (to Leviticus) would certainly support a statement that &amp;quot;Jewish religious law condemns the practice of male homosexual acts.&amp;quot; And, yes, a suitable New Testament reference would broaden this. I don't remember the passage in Romans offhand.&lt;br /&gt;
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**Romans 1:24-28&lt;br /&gt;
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Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their heart to impurity, so that thier bodies would be dishonored among them.  For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator who is blessed forever. Amen.  For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the  natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.  And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do these things which are not proper,&lt;br /&gt;
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::so yes, the bible is clear on this. --[[User:CPAdmin1|CPAdmin1]] 10:31, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I don't want to get into a game of &amp;quot;dueling Scriptures&amp;quot; but if a passage starts out with a &amp;quot;therefore&amp;quot; it ought to include what the &amp;quot;therefore&amp;quot; is there for. Hence:&lt;br /&gt;
:::Romans Chapter 1: 21-23(RSV). &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;21&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;: for although they knew God they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking and their senseless minds were darkened.&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;22&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;Claiming to be wise, they became fools,&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;23&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man or birds or animals or reptiles.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::This would indicate, that the sin of homosexuality is begotten from the parent sin of idolatry. &lt;br /&gt;
:::So the Bible is &amp;quot;clear&amp;quot; about idolatry being '''''bad''''', (look what it's gets you!), but not all homosexuals are idolaters, are they? [[User:Rob Pommer| Cracker]]&amp;lt;sub&amp;gt;[[User_talk:Rob_Pommer|talk]]&amp;lt;/sub&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*The reference certainly does not state that giving equal legal rights to male couples has any affect on the spiritual condition of couples bound by the Christian sacrament of holy matrimony.&lt;br /&gt;
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*The reference does not support the statement that &amp;quot;some argue&amp;quot; this. Probably some do, but it is important to have a good reference here, because without it the reader can't tell ''why'' &amp;quot;some&amp;quot; would say this, or what their argument for such a position is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Something like this can certainly go in the article, but not as a weaseled &amp;quot;some argue&amp;quot; that does not give any traceable link to ''who'' makes this argument and ''what'' their argument would be. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 09:42, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd rather not see this sentence or anything similar to it even in the article, but I felt this was the best version to convey the particular sentiment. &amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;FFD700&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User:ColinR|ColinR]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;000000&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[[User_talk:ColinR|talk]]&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 09:47, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Oh, I'd '''rather''' not see it in the article myself, but that's a different issue... [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 09:49, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Dpbsmith that we should avoid weasel-worded statemints. Traceable links are useful and often essential.&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree with Colin that we must not lie! Uncited facts can be a problem, but anything that's true should be pretty easy to find a citation for. &lt;br /&gt;
::(Unsigned comments by [[User:Ed Poor]])&lt;br /&gt;
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What needs to be shown is that this is a) a reasonably widely-held position, and b) what the stated basis of that position is. Should it go in the article just because BenjaminS and his brother hold this position? Or is it a formal position taken in a paper published by some organization like (say) Focus on the Family? Or is there a Gallup poll showing that the majority of Americans hold this position? It matters. And, frankly, as should be clear, I think this sort of material should go in the article ''after'' it's supported, not before. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 11:41, 5 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==  In general, it is opposed by social conservatives, and most of the support for it is from liberals. vs Poll data ==&lt;br /&gt;
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: In general, it is opposed by social conservatives, and most of the support for it is from liberals.&lt;br /&gt;
Poll data can be found at [http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Relationships/same_sex_marriage_poll_040121.html]&lt;br /&gt;
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|20&lt;br /&gt;
|77&lt;br /&gt;
|55&lt;br /&gt;
|42&lt;br /&gt;
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|17&lt;br /&gt;
|81&lt;br /&gt;
|58&lt;br /&gt;
|38&lt;br /&gt;
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Outside of the Liberal and Republicans, Conservative and Evangelical sections, support is fairly much split down the middle (do realize the large overlap between the Republicans, Conservative and Evangelical sections).  I find the original claim faulty - most of the support is not from the liberals (though they support it the most).  --[[User:Mtur|Mtur]] 16:08, 6 April 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Not an oxymoron, etc.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I changed:&lt;br /&gt;
:'''Same-sex marriage''' is an oxymoronic phrase that depicts two people of the same sex attempting to gain the same legal status afforded to men and women.&lt;br /&gt;
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:A '''same-sex marriage''' is a legal relationship between two people of the same sex that has the same legal status as a marriage between a man and a woman. Some regard the phrase as self-contradictory because they do not regard it as a true marriage.&lt;br /&gt;
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It's not an oxymoron, because it's not a figure of speech made for rhetorical emphasis. In recent years a form of humor has arisen which consists of describing a phrase as an &amp;quot;oxymoron,&amp;quot; causing the hearer to do a double-take as he gets the comic interpretation, e.g. &amp;quot;Government organization--that's an oxymoron.&amp;quot; But this is not yet accepted as a real meaning for the word, although in a few years it may be. &amp;quot;Same-sex marriage is an oxymoron&amp;quot; could be a joke, but it is not a proper statement either of a fact or of an opinion.&lt;br /&gt;
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Seconding, &amp;quot;attempting to gain the same legal status&amp;quot; is inaccurate, because same-sex marriage is a reality in several countries and one state of the United States, and these couples do have the same legal status as married couples of the opposite sex. (And couples joined in civil unions in states that have them have the same legal status as married couples of the opposite sex.)&lt;br /&gt;
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To suggest that, from a ''legal'' point of view, same-sex marriages do not yet exist is to deny a plain reality. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 22:16, 13 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:The word &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot; means a man &amp;amp; woman. There is no other meaning to the word.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 22:19, 13 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Rob, please stop the business of stating flatly that what RobS thinks a word ought to mean is what the word means. It's a special case of stating that whatever RobS believes must be true.&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Marriage&amp;quot; is often short for ''Christian marriage,'' which takes place in a church, is officiated by a clergyman, is ordained by God, and is between a man and a woman; but there ''is'' another meaning to the word. ''it can also'' refer to the civil contract, which grants certain legal rights and is officiated by some kind of state official--most clergyman are also state officials--and is governed by state law.&lt;br /&gt;
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::The marriages between same-sex couples that take place in Massachusetts are &amp;quot;marriages.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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::The changes you made are a presentation of your personal opinion, and are not appropriate when stated as fact.&lt;br /&gt;
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::As for the word &amp;quot;oxymoron,&amp;quot; I've substituted &amp;quot;ludicrous self-contradiction.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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::P. S. I would like to see some examples that show that the use of &amp;quot;same-sex marriage&amp;quot; within quotation marks is a widespread, standard usage by conservatives. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 06:06, 14 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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And yet millions of people feel otherwise. [[User:Czolgolz|Czolgolz]] 22:56, 13 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Among those millions are the editors of the American Heritage Dictionary:&lt;br /&gt;
::1a. The legal union of a man and woman as husband and wife. b. The state of being married; wedlock. c. A common-law marriage. d. A union between two persons having the customary but usually not the legal force of marriage: a same-sex marriage. 2. A wedding. 3. A close union: “the most successful marriage of beauty and blood in mainstream comics” (Lloyd Rose). 4. Games The combination of the king and queen of the same suit, as in pinochle.[http://www.bartleby.com/61/2/M0120200.html]&lt;br /&gt;
:and those of Merriam-Webster:&lt;br /&gt;
::a (1) : the state of being united to a person of the opposite sex as husband or wife in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law (2) : the state of being united to a person of the same sex in a relationship like that of a traditional marriage &amp;lt;same-sex marriage&amp;gt; b : the mutual relation of married persons : WEDLOCK c : the institution whereby individuals are joined in a marriage&lt;br /&gt;
::2 : an act of marrying or the rite by which the married status is effected; especially : the wedding ceremony and attendant festivities or formalities&lt;br /&gt;
::3 : an intimate or close union &amp;lt;the marriage of painting and poetry -- J. T. Shawcross[http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/marriage]&lt;br /&gt;
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:Believe me, I check the dictionary about a dozen times for every time I actually quote it, and I wish other contributors would do the same. Whenever I'm not really sure what the nuances or range of meaning of a word are, I check. There are many words whose meanings I ''think'' I know that, it turns out, I don't really know. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 06:11, 14 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I consider the &amp;quot;oxymoron&amp;quot; PoV to be discredited.&lt;br /&gt;
:This is the second time its been stated, dictionaries ''do not'' give definitions.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:37, 14 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*&amp;quot;'Same-sex marriage' is an oxymoron&amp;quot; is an incorrect use of the word ''oxymoron.''&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;'Same-sex marriage' is a ludicrous self-contradiction&amp;quot; is correct usage, but inaccurate.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Some conservatives consider 'same-sex marriage' to be a ludicrous self-contradiction&amp;quot; is accurate, but should be sourced. &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;Because the editors of Conservapedia consider 'same-sex marriage' to be a ludicrous self-contradiction, the term will be used in quotation marks throughout this article&amp;quot; is something that could be worth discussion. '''I'd''' accept this if a) it really is the Conservapedia consensus opinion and b) the article identifies it as such. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:07, 14 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Usage by conservative sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Of the first hundred Google [http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;amp;rls=en&amp;amp;q=site:www.nationalreview.com+%22same-sex+marriage%22&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8 search of the National Review], ninety-eight of them simply use the term without quotation marks. This includes a [http://www.nationalreview.com/editorial/editors200503160748.asp 2005 editorial]. One [http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/george_tubbs200411010830.asp anti-Kerry article] uses the phrase ''same-sex marriage'' without quotation marks numerous times, but uses ''same-sex &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot;'' twice, I'm not quite sure why. [http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/bradley200401220909.asp one other] uses the phrase ''Massachusetts same-sex &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot;''. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 12:55, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;amp;rls=en&amp;amp;q=site:www.family.org+%22same-sex+marriage%22&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8 Focus on the Family] consistently uses ''Same-sex 'marriage''' and ''same-sex &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot;''. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 12:57, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;amp;rls=en&amp;amp;q=site:www.eagleforum.org+%22same-sex+marriage%22&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8 Eagle Forum] uses ''same-sex marriage,'' no quotation marks, 99 times, and [http://www.eagleforum.org/educate/2006/june06/pro-family.html same-sex &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot; in Massachusetts] once. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 12:59, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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[http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&amp;amp;rls=en&amp;amp;q=site:www.cc.org+%22same-sex+marriage%22&amp;amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;amp;oe=UTF-8 Christian Coalition]: 99 usages without quotation marks, [http://www.cc.org/archives/culture/index.html one with]. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 13:02, 15 May 2007 (EDT) [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 13:19, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:How come when I click on these Google results I get these,&lt;br /&gt;
*2812 results from NRO for &amp;lt;marraige&amp;quot;&amp;gt; [http://search.nationalreview.com/?q=marriage%22&amp;amp;s=&amp;amp;sdate=&amp;amp;edate=]&lt;br /&gt;
*Dr. Dobson specifically refers to &amp;quot;same-sex marraige&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;gay marriage&amp;quot; in an article entitled, ''Marriage on the Ropes'', where the word ''marriage'' occurs 90+ times. [http://www.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/A000000771.cfm]&lt;br /&gt;
*CC first result: California's Supreme Court Overturns San Francisco &amp;quot;Homosexual Marriages&amp;quot; [http://www.cc.org/content.cfm?id=162] and  that sirte consistently uses &amp;lt;&amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot;&amp;gt; in this context [http://www.cc.org/content.cfm?id=379&amp;amp;srch=marriage%22]&lt;br /&gt;
:Also, the appears to be no uniform way these searches are configured to get results that are already in quotes.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:45, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I was exploring, Rob. &lt;br /&gt;
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::If you want to remove the second paragraph I just added to the article, on the grounds that you don't like my methodology, go ahead. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Is your point is that the phrase should be &amp;quot;gay marriage&amp;quot; rather than &amp;quot;same-sex marriage,&amp;quot; i.e. that the phrase &amp;quot;same-sex&amp;quot; was chosen to play down the word &amp;quot;gay?&amp;quot; I wasn't even looking at that. I can't speak for others, but I personally would have no objection to moving &amp;quot;same-sex marriage&amp;quot; to &amp;quot;gay marriage&amp;quot; and revising the language accordingly. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 13:56, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==SSM as an attack on the institution of marriage==&lt;br /&gt;
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Any legal inroads to redefining [[marriage]] from one boy and one girl can only lead to the destruction of marriage as a godly institution. Holy matrimony, which also allows the non-religious to partake, is given by God. Legal perversions, such as [[bigamy]], [[polygamy]] (for which they are raking [[Mitt Romney]] over the coals) and forced &amp;quot;arranged&amp;quot; marriages (where the girl has no choice, a kind of legalized rape), will destroy marriage if permitted. &lt;br /&gt;
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This is part of the [[homosexual agenda]]. They don't really want to be &amp;quot;married&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;enjoy the benifits of marriage&amp;quot;. The [[civil union]] already does this, allowing next of kin rights when you're in the hospital, etc. The purpose is to destroy marriage. What we need to be writing about is why and how the [[gay rights]] movement is trying to destroy the sanctity of marriage. I guess it has something to do with taking away the ability of pastors (and society at large) to condemn homosexuality. It's related to &amp;quot;[[hate speech]]&amp;quot; and [[hate crime]] legislation which forbid criticism of homosexuality as [[sin]]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 13:30, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Girls and boys getting married?  Should they be referred to as men and women? [[User:DrSandstone|DrSandstone]] 13:35, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ed, I don't think you're really correct on any of the above.  I can't see why homosexuals would want to destroy marriage, and frankly, I think that the imputation of this invidious intent on a group of people is simple fear-mongering, or alarmism in the extreme, without proof.  Second, &amp;quot;civil unions&amp;quot; do not carry the federal marriage benefits that President Bush fought so hard for (tax breaks et al).  Surely that's a benefit that homosexual couples have an interest in acquiring.  Third, and most importantly, perhaps, the idea of the &amp;quot;parade of the horribles&amp;quot; - &amp;quot;if you allow this, you allow bigamy&amp;quot; - has really been refuted a thousand times.  If you want, I'd be glad to draw you the legal lines between same-sex marriage, and bigamy et al, but I consider them fairly obvious.  Please let me know if you would enjoy the clarification.-'''Speak[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:SpeakerOfTheDead er]''' 13:42, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Courts are clogged enouogh with divorce and custody cases; with gay adoption, and what by first glance appears high rates of, let's call it, &amp;quot;extra-marital promiscuity&amp;quot; among homosexuals, the oft quoted 50% &amp;quot;divorce rate&amp;quot; appears to be much higher among gays.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:50, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:The &amp;quot;extra-marital promiscuity&amp;quot; amongst gays might because they can't get married, dude.  And administrative convenience is no reason to abridge liberty.-'''Speak[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:SpeakerOfTheDead er]''' 14:01, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I still don't understand how SSM will destro the insitution of marriage.  Does two guys getting married render your own marriage null?  It would be different if gays also wanted to pass a law outlawing heterosexual marriage, but last time I checked there was no such movement.  Is there a serious fear that if gay marriage is made legal all the good straight Christians will suddenly catch a gay gene or something?  Arguing that it is against your churches moral codes is one thing, but arguing that gays are out to destroy your entire way of life seems a little demagogic to me.[[User:Prof0705|Prof0705]] 13:54, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Just for the record, Ed: Two weekends ago I was lunching with a lawyer&amp;amp;mdash;a judge, actually, who presides in a different state than ours. I was muttering something about our will. He said that &amp;quot;Everyone needs a lawyer three times in their life when they draw up a will, when they buy a house, and when they get a divorce.&amp;quot; He then went on to say in a jocular way &amp;quot;It's just life. Sooner or later you need to shed a spouse, and when you do,&amp;quot; etc. etc. I sort of blinked at that, and said that I thought at this point my wife and I were probably married for keeps. (And, yes, was relieved when my wife confirmed it).&lt;br /&gt;
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:I feel that remarks like that threaten the institution of marriage more than all the civil unions in Vermont. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:14, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Paris Hilton &amp;amp; Britney Spears, together or separately, are greater threats to marriage than all of the gay unions possible, past present &amp;amp; future.-'''Speak[http://www.conservapedia.com/User_talk:SpeakerOfTheDead er]''' 14:16, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ed, maybe you could explain your reasoning.  I can't for the life of me understand how SSM could have a negative effect on anyone else's marriage.  Are you worried that those sneaky gays will trick people into marrying them who'd otherwise be marrying opposite-sex partners?  I realize that's probably not actually the objection, but what is it? [[User:Murray|Murray]] 19:38, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Snipping Wikipedia-sourced long list==&lt;br /&gt;
I'm removing this for three reasons. First, Wikipedia itself does not accept Wikipedia as a reliable source, and neither should we... quite apart from issues of institutional rivalry. If someone wants to reinsert this, they should find the sources Wikipedia used, or do fresh research, to support the entries in the list.&lt;br /&gt;
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Second, the topic of the article is same-sex ''marriage,'' so probably it should only mention places that allow marriage (under the same name, law, and institutional apparatus--same forms are filed, etc.--as traditional marriage.) &lt;br /&gt;
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Third, the insertion of such a very, very, long list, including places that have only &amp;quot;registered partnerships&amp;quot; and places that are &amp;quot;considering&amp;quot; same-sex marriage, really looks tendentious to me. &lt;br /&gt;
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In other words, the list should be limited to a) major countries (no need to mention the Netherlands Antilles) that b) allow same-sex ''marriage,'' and c) are accompanied by references. The references are important to allow the reader to verify what the country actually does or does not allow, and ensure that (say) someone doesn't say that &amp;quot;same-sex marriages are allowed in the United States&amp;quot; when they are only allowed in Massachusetts, or anything like that. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 14:05, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Same-sex marriages are allowed in [[Canada]], the [[Netherlands]], [[Belgium]], [[South Africa]], [[Monaco]], [[Spain]], [[Cayman Islands]], [[Greenland]], [[Netherland Antilles]], [[Turks and Caicos Islands]], [[Pitcairn Island]], [[French Guiana]], [[Falkland Islands]].&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Israel]] approves of same-sex marriages performed abroad, but does not perform them in the country.&lt;br /&gt;
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Same-sex unions or registered partnerships are allowed in [[Hungary]] (from July 2007), [[Andorra]], [[Italy]9 (some regions), [[Luxembourg]], [[the Czech Republic]], [[Denmark]], [[Finland]], [[Germany]], [[Iceland]], [[Norway]], [[Portugal]], [[Slovenia]], [[Sweden]], [[Switzerland]], [[France]], [[United Kingdom]], [[Martinique]], [[Guadeloupe]], [[United States]] ([[Vermont]], [[Connecticut]], [[Massachusetts]], [[New Jersey]], [[California]], [[Maine]], [[District of Coumbia]] and [[Hawaii]]), [[Mexico]] ([[Mexico City]] and [[Coahuila]]), [[Australia]] and [[Norfolk Island]], [[New Caledonia]], [[New Zealand]], [[Brazil]] ([[Rio Grande do Sul]]), [[Argentina]] ([[Buenos Aires City]] and [[Rio Negro Privince]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Same-sex unions are considered in [[Hong-Kong]], [[Philippines]], [[Taiwan]], [[Austria]], [[Faroe Islands]], [[Gibraltar]], [[Greece]], [[Gernsey]], [[Ireland]], [[Isle of Man]], [[Jersey]], [[Lichtenstein]], [[Poland]], [[Bermuda]], [[Costa Rica]], [[New Caledonia]], [[Chile]], [[Colombia]], [[Uruguay]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_laws_of_the_world Homosexuality laws of the world at Wikipedia]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest also removing the last paragraph. It is an unsourced gay rights opinion, that maybe belongs elsewhere. It is just one of many gay rights opinions, and it strays too far from the subject matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not sure it is correct to say that Mass. has same-sex marriage under the definition given in the article. Two Mass. people of the same sex can have the same Mass. legal status as a marriage between a man and a woman, but not the same under federal law. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 15:19, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Your second comment: What did you have in mind to do about it? Qualify any statements about Massachusetts in the article, accordingly? Tweak the definition, which I don't think is quite right but didn't want to tinker with myself?&lt;br /&gt;
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:The article currently says only that Massachusetts is &amp;quot;the sole state to issue same-sex marriage licenses.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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:Or are you just pointing this out as relevant to discussions here on the talk page?&lt;br /&gt;
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::[[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 19:13, 15 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is a link to the HRC page of international marriage status.  Surely that is a good enough source to re-include the list of countries that do permit it?&lt;br /&gt;
http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Section=Partners&amp;amp;CONTENTID=26546&amp;amp;TEMPLATE=/TaggedPage/TaggedPageDisplay.cfm&amp;amp;TPLID=70&lt;br /&gt;
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==Section on [[%22Same-sex_marriage%22#Line-drawing_and_the_.22slippery_slope.22_argument|Line-Drawing &amp;amp; Gay Rights]]==&lt;br /&gt;
(I tweaked the phrasing to read &amp;quot;Line-drawing and the slippery slope argument,&amp;quot; because I think it's best to avoid the phrase &amp;quot;gay rights&amp;quot; here, as I don't think it's Conservapedian consensus that gay marriage is related to legitimate gay &amp;quot;rights.&amp;quot;)&lt;br /&gt;
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RSchlafly says &amp;quot;It is an unsourced gay rights opinion, that maybe belongs elsewhere. It is just one of many gay rights opinions, and it strays too far from the subject matter.&amp;quot; I agree. In its present form, on the face of it, it's a personal essay and unsourced opinion by [[User:SpeakerOfTheDead]]. It would not be allowed at Wikipedia.&lt;br /&gt;
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Both paragraphs begin with weasel terms: &amp;quot;Opponents of same-sex marriage suggest...&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;Gay rights workers suggest...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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In order for it to be valid content in this article, SpeakerOfTheDead needs to show ''by citing sources'' that the slippery-slope argument is an important part of the same-sex marriage debate, not just a peripheral add-on. &lt;br /&gt;
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That is, he needs to show that opponents are saying something along the lines of &amp;quot;The reason I oppose gay marriage is not so much because of gay marriage in itself, but because of what it could lead to.&amp;quot; Rather than &amp;quot;I oppose gay marriage for these moral/religious/societal reasons, oh and by the way here's a bunch of other problems: it would also inevitably lead to legalizing bestiality, etc.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If this can't be done, I agree that it doesn't belong in the article. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 08:23, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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: The problems are worse than that. The section just gives a weak version of the slippery slope argument, as if that is the most important argument against same-sex marriage. It is not. I say that the whole section should be omitted. Maybe some real arguments could be put in later. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 11:22, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well, I pretty much agree with you. Too bad that RobS and SpeakerOfTheDead ''and others'' haven't weighed in. I left a note on SpeakerOfTheDead's Talk page. I would not oppose cutting the text from the article and pasting it here for discussion. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 11:51, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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What does &amp;quot;seeking equality&amp;quot; mean? Is it a suggestion that sexual intercourse is in the same moral category as [[race]]? That's funny, because liberals keep saying &amp;quot;race is a construct&amp;quot; and also that &amp;quot;homosexuality is a construct&amp;quot;. Are they saying that marriage is just a human invention too?&lt;br /&gt;
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I'd like to see an argument from gay rights advocates which says why they think two men (or two women) should be allowed to marry. We can then see whether this argument leads to the idea that a man could marry his dog (she'd be his bitch!) or that three men could marry, or that adoptive homosexual parents could give their consent to a 14-year-old girl &amp;quot;marrying&amp;quot; a lesbian woman. &lt;br /&gt;
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What's the distinction between same-sex &amp;quot;marriage&amp;quot; and other outrages like [[bigamy]] and [[pedophilia]]? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] 12:24, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Ed - you asked &amp;quot;Are they saying that marriage is just a human invention too?&amp;quot;  Last time I went on a camping trip, I saw some chipmunks engaging in sexual intercourse, I saw a fish eat a crawdad, and I saw a pair of birds engaging in a real bitter fight, or a hot night of passion.  Nowhere in the woods did I see a pair of animals in front of a priest, exchanging vows and rings, and dancing like idiots near the open bar.  Long story short - only humans get married, because, yes, marriage is a human construct.  Care to try again?  --[[User:WWillis|WWillis]] 12:32, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Criticism of the &amp;quot;slippery-slope&amp;quot; argument is just an effort to denigrate the underlying argument.  The first &amp;quot;criticism&amp;quot; of defenders of marriage must address the fact that these proposals upset a couple of milleniums of understanding what the idea of marraige is common to all cultures and civilizations.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:02, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
: This is indeed a criticism (although I don't agree exactly about the idea of marriage being common to *all* cultures), but the same-sex marriage debate does often collapse into the slippery-slope argument.  Santorum was mercifully mocked for making exactly that argument, for example.  It's not the only argument, but it is a frequent argument and probably deserves some coverage here.  [[User:Brainslug|Brainslug]] 13:06, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Yes, once we get to current politics.  But marriage itself must be defined first, and it is not defined by agenda driven activists seeking to redefine it right now.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 13:09, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Ed, re your question a few posts up:  2 consenting adults is maybe the most important difference between SSM and the other things you mention.  In your view, aside from the anatomy, what's the distinction between SSM and &amp;quot;traditional&amp;quot; marriage? [[User:Murray|Murray]] 14:15, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Let's call it the &amp;quot;anti-procreationist lobby&amp;quot;.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 14:48, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Not sure I understand the objection.  Could you flesh it out a bit? Thanks.  [[User:Murray|Murray]] 15:15, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::''Opponents of traditional marriage suggest legislative action to redefine marriage as something other than between a man and a woman simply masks the real homosexual agenda, the intent to destroy marriage altogether. With marriage as we know it gone, everyone would enjoy all the legal benefits of marriage (custody rights, tax-free inheritance, joint ownership of property, health care and spousal citizenship, etc.,) '''without limiting the number of partners or their gender.'''''[http://www.conservapedia.com/%22Same-sex_marriage%22#Issues]&lt;br /&gt;
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(undent)So it's the slippery slope argument.  What's the evidence that the &amp;quot;real homosexual agenda&amp;quot; is to destroy marriage?  Do you (or Dobson, or whoever) genuinely believe that the purpose of seeking to legalize same sex marriages is to allow bigamy?  Sometimes a cigar is just that. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 15:37, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Dr. Dobson says,&lt;br /&gt;
::''For millennia, traditional marriage has been celebrated by every culture on earth as the cornerstone of society. But in the late 1960s and early 1970s, no-fault divorce laws, radical feminism and a sweeping [[sexual revolution]] combined here in the United States to rip open the fabric of the family. They left it shaken and wounded. It was a growing apprehension about this situation that led me to resign from my academic position in 1977 and start a fledgling new organization called Focus on the Family. In the 26 years since, we have been working tirelessly to bolster and preserve traditional marriage and parenthood. ''[http://www.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/A000000771.cfm]&lt;br /&gt;
:There is nothing there that cannot be supported by evidence, and there is no reason to not take Dr. Dobson's word for what he says about his life's work.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:44, 16 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::But there's nothing in there about gay people being out to destroy traditional marriage.  And there is good reason not to take Dr. Dobson at his word if he does make that specific claim without evidence, although I'm sure he sincerely believes what he says. [[User:Murray|Murray]] 12:55, 21 May 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Why was the section on worldwide laws on same sex marriage deleted? [[User:Maestro|Maestro]] 15:21, 6 June 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:(a) the sources (b) the sources refered to 'partnerships' and 'relationships', not marriage.  [[User:RobS|RobS]] 15:23, 6 June 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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RobS, what's your authority for the definition of the word &amp;quot;marriage?&amp;quot; I know you don't accept the dictionary, but I'd like you to cite the source for the definition you use. &lt;br /&gt;
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And please revise the opening sentence. &amp;quot;Same-sex marriage&amp;quot; is not &amp;quot;also known as homosexuality.&amp;quot; For example, homosexuality exists in all fifty states of the United States, but same-sex marriage does not. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 16:01, 6 June 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Having received no answer, I am citing &amp;quot;the marriage services of Christian denominations&amp;quot; as a source for the definition, and specifically citing the language of the Episcopalian prayer book. I'm also noting that this definition was written into Federal law. Since marriage laws are primarily a state matter, I'm further noting that a few states permit civil unions and one allows same-sex &amp;quot;marriages&amp;quot; under that name, while noting that the Federal government does not recognize these marriages. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 18:43, 8 June 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm moving this here, because although I think it's an arguable point, this section is, as noted a few weeks ago, basically a personal essay, and since that time it hasn't been changed. It doesn't cite or quote what opponents of same-sex marriage actually say, it doesn't cite or quote what gay rights workers actually say, and so forth. &lt;br /&gt;
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It shouldn't be reinserted unless supporting material can be added clarifying these points. [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] 20:39, 10 June 2007 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Line-Drawing &amp;amp; [[Gay Rights]]'''&lt;br /&gt;
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Opponents of same-sex marriage suggest that allowing same-sex marriage will place society on a &amp;quot;slippery slope&amp;quot; towards allowing bigamy, incest, and other moral &amp;quot;wrongs.&amp;quot;  The argument rests on the idea that the only legal or moral &amp;quot;line&amp;quot; preventing same-sex marriage is morality, which is also the only &amp;quot;line&amp;quot; preventing acceptance of bigamy ''et all''.&lt;br /&gt;
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Gay rights workers suggest that such argumentation downplays the danger, though, of the evils at the bottom of the slippery slope, and society's interest in preventing these evils.  The state has a compelling interest in preventing bigamous relationships, which are (1) a burden on state funding, since marriage triggers social benefits and (2) have a higher incidence of spousal abuse.  These &amp;quot;lines&amp;quot; are not predicated on morality, but on facts.  Similarly, incest is an evil that society has a factual interest in preventing, since incestual relationships often (1) entail abuse, and (2) result in unhealthy offspring.  Since there are non-moral reasons to reject both of these &amp;quot;horribles&amp;quot;, gay rights workers insist that acceptance of same-sex marriage (by abrogation of a legitimate state interest in preserving &amp;quot;morality&amp;quot;) does not entail acceptance of bigamy or incest.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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